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June 21, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#568: June 19, 2021

June 19, 2021’s Knowledge Fight episode dissects Alex Jones’ desperate false flag claims about January 6th—echoing past conspiracy theories while dismissing his own alleged influence as absurd. Guests like Nick Fuentes (Proud Boys informants) and Steve Pieczenik (watermarked ballots, military coup, and even "handpicking" Putin) push fringe narratives, with Dan and Jordan exposing their anti-Semitic, racist, or outright delusional framing. Jones’ uncritical amplification of these claims further erodes his credibility, leaving the hosts to mock his reliance on conspiracy theorists as a hollow attempt to regain relevance. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 08:22
d
dan friesen
37:23
j
jordan holmes
20:12
s
steve pieczenik
08:51
Appearances
n
nick fuentes
01:03
p
pete santilli
00:36
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones
Shang me are the bad guys.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Riddler.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Pandy.
Stop.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding us.
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish ten colour over here today.
jordan holmes
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
Hey, everybody.
dan friesen
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is giving some thanks to some folks.
I'd like to thank the we just over the weekend we recorded a little guest appearance on God Awful movies.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we did.
dan friesen
I'd like to thank them for having us on and also I forgot to mention this, as always, at the end of last week, an episode that I recorded of a podcast called Your Music Saved Us came out, and I'd like to thank Jay and Clifton for having me on long anticipated we recorded it a couple weeks ago.
I was very excited for it to come out.
We talked about a five iron frenzy EP Christian Sky EP that I really really liked when I was younger and it turns out I still really like it, hey.
So yeah, that's a lot of fun.
People should go check that out there on ITunes and what have you.
I'm looking forward to listening to it.
So yeah, my bright spot is having a little bit of fun dicking around joining uh, joining other people's shows to have uh, Non-Alex Jones related fun.
jordan holmes
I think that's great.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it's good.
It can be good from time to time.
jordan holmes
Yeah yeah, yeah.
How about you, Dan?
I have some exciting announcement type news.
dan friesen
I think I know what this is.
jordan holmes
I think you do, Dan.
Uh, Thursday July 1st, we will be doing the finale episode eight of the six episode series uh, God's Damn Wizard.
And we will be doing it live at 9 p.m at the Lincoln Lodge in Chicago.
That's where we'll be doing it.
It's going to be interesting.
Yeah, it's all coming together in a very short period of time and hopefully I will finish writing it by the time we get there.
dan friesen
Yeah, and hopefully there'll be a link that people can get tickets.
Yeah, to that we can put out or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I will tweet that out whenever it's okay, it's available.
dan friesen
Yeah, this will be fun, although I am I am a little bit uh, wary.
jordan holmes
We'll see.
It's the first time being out in public in a long time.
dan friesen
Yeah I I i've, i've gone a little bit in public, but not like a per, like live performance.
That's a little bit uh, a little bit weird yeah, but you know, time to get back to it man, maybe we'll see, maybe Not, yeah, there's also that possibility, too.
So, also, a secondary aspect of this announcement is that there isn't going to be new episodes of God's Damn Wizard.
jordan holmes
Not next week until Thursday, July 1st.
We will not be doing any more episodes of that.
So, look forward to it.
I'll tweet out the link and we'll put it up, and you can catch up on the old episodes.
dan friesen
Hoorah!
Yeah, and then some people have asked about this, and so like just to make it clear and more public, like once all of it's done, you are going to release it as an audio as a complete audio thing.
It's going to be video now, but it will be audio once it's all finished up and it can be edited nice and everybody needs to get me their individual audio, which some have been very, very good with.
It seems like a private conversation, Jordan.
So, today on the podcast, Jordan, we're going to be talking about some modern-day BLs and this.
We're going to be talking about an emergency broadcast that Alex did on Saturday.
jordan holmes
I almost screamed blackjack.
dan friesen
This is from June 19th, 2021.
jordan holmes
Blackjack!
Oh, that was close.
unidentified
Yeah, that was tight.
dan friesen
This is an emergency episode that Alex did.
And I was glad that he did an emergency episode because I was struggling.
I was treading water, sure, thinking about covering his present-day nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then this emergency broadcast happened, and something monumental went down.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Something that we have been waiting for for a while, hasn't it?
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
So it's actually something monumental and not some bullshit.
dan friesen
No, it's some bullshit.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Never mind that.
dan friesen
Yeah, no.
It was something I've been excited about happening.
jordan holmes
It's bullshit.
Okay, that's fair.
dan friesen
That's fair.
So we'll get down to business on this, but before we do, Jordan, we're going to take a little moment to say thank you and welcome in some wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, congratulations to Paul on the birth of his first child, Riley.
This was sent in by Ryan.
I guess we're going to say Riley is a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Ryan.
And on behalf of Riley.
dan friesen
And Paul.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Next.
Alias McFake name.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
What a strange name to be born with.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Cool Disco George.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Disco George.
dan friesen
And DJ Spouse Mouse.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, DJ Spouse Mouse.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Now, a little bit of a shorter policy wonk thing, but that's because giving someone life is giving someone death.
unidentified
You could say that life is death.
dan friesen
You could.
Joel had a birthday.
jordan holmes
Shouting something out to someone is also shouting something into someone.
dan friesen
And giving life.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So Joel had a birthday last week.
Tammy reached out, wanted to wish a happy birthday.
Joel, happy birthday too.
Happy birthday.
Denise, how you doing out there?
I hope you have a happy birthday.
Son Will hit me up.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
And wanted us to wish you a happy birthday.
jordan holmes
I thought it might have been Killer Mike.
His mom was named Denise.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Great trivia.
Next, John has a birthday.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
From Teresa.
Teresa says, hey, happy birthday.
And so do we.
We joined Teresa.
Happy birthday.
Dusty.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Not Dusty Springfield.
jordan holmes
Not Dusty Rhodes?
dan friesen
No, he's passed.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
This person is still alive, as evidenced by their birthday being the.
jordan holmes
Gotcha, gotcha.
How's Old Man House holding?
dan friesen
Ooh, badness.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Carrie was the one who reached out and wanted us to wish Dusty a happy birthday.
jordan holmes
Happy birthday, Dusty.
dan friesen
And then finally, very special from Michael.
This is a happy birthday technocrat shout out.
Combo.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Situation.
jordan holmes
Put it all together.
dan friesen
For Allie G, not boring.
jordan holmes
Not boring.
dan friesen
No, not boring.
alex jones
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
Allie G, aka spills with a Z. Happy birthday, and you are a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, Mike.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We got to go full-tailed buggy on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Giving life is giving death.
Happy birthday to all.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we're going to start this thing off.
And Alex goes for an unconventional approach on this emergency broadcast.
alex jones
Wait.
jordan holmes
It's an emergency broadcast.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And he's going to open it with something other than screaming, this is an emergency.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Now I'm interested.
dan friesen
And if I was gauging from the title of this video, I would say that it's the emergency is that the January 6th storming of the Capitol was a false flag.
jordan holmes
Oh, that does not sound like as much of an emergency as I was expecting.
dan friesen
No.
I don't know.
I still, I mean, I've watched all of this.
I still don't actually understand how this qualifies as an emergency that requires another broadcast.
jordan holmes
Yeah, don't you have to take immediate action in an emergency?
dan friesen
You should, or at least you need to be aware of something really fast.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And this is standard InfoWars lore at this point.
Not good.
It's a talking point that's really just like, yeah.
Everyone who's listening would see that headline and be like, we know.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Antifa false flags.
The whole thing.
FBI, CIA, Trump was probably not or is in on it now.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And one of the things I was really thinking about is it seems really weird on first glance that Alex is doing that, having an emergency broadcast about like the sixth being a false flag.
jordan holmes
Your old information, yeah.
dan friesen
But it makes some sense.
I mean, if you really think about it, from all publicly available information, Alex seems like he's on pretty solid footing, legally speaking, as it relates to the storming of the Capitol.
Okay.
It seems like something that's getting him a lot of attention.
He constantly is trending on Twitter because people are like, they found this video of him being like, Trump told me to lead a march.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
You know, and like, I think it's probably something really good to lean into for him.
There's a lot of attention.
There's a lot of possibility for claiming that people are misrepresenting him.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I think it's probably, as long as he doesn't end up defaming anybody in the process, like, it's probably a good thing for him to do.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
There we go.
There is a downside.
dan friesen
As he is getting this attention, he knows that he needs to, you know, turn it into.
jordan holmes
Capitalize.
alex jones
So I love that crew, and I love the boom operator that's been here seven days.
Is that always going to be here tomorrow for the Sunday show?
I just want to thank them.
And I'm going to hit this big news.
Then I'm going to go right to these guests.
But instead of always doing it as a footnote at the end, I'm going to do it right now.
Because I've got a bunch of reporters I want to hire, and I've got operations I want to watch, and I got things I want to do.
And I can't do it without your support.
So this coming Monday morning, this big sale of high-quality organic vitamin D3.
dan friesen
So yeah, he starts off with an explicit plug.
jordan holmes
Starts off the emergency broadcast with an ad.
dan friesen
Well, because like his staff is overworked, which seems like a him problem.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It seems like a management issue.
jordan holmes
You could probably hire more staff if they're overwhelmed.
dan friesen
Or cut back.
jordan holmes
Or cut back.
dan friesen
Yeah, find ways to do this on more of a shoestring.
jordan holmes
Sure, lower your overhead.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right.
But because these people are working seven days a week, he needs to hire more people, and therefore you need B12 or two or whatever.
jordan holmes
They need vitamins.
That does sound true.
dan friesen
And they'll give you a lot of energy, right?
And sometimes, Jordan, you're laughing, but sometimes when you're a person who has a lot of energy, people think you're on cocaine.
alex jones
And then we've got the three new products by new, the new ones that finally came in with a supply chain breakdown that were discounting because you're habituated to discounts.
And I get it.
And I made it that way.
And it's my fault.
But now we have to sell stuff on sale, even though it's going to sell out because you don't buy it unless it's on sale.
And then stuff sold out for six, eight months.
That's okay.
unidentified
Are you complaining to me about you?
alex jones
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And of course, biodresolinium for the mustard seed.
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And I'm telling you, that's lightning in a bottle.
That's how we fund this operation.
And people always ask, why do you got so much energy?
I remember one time I was totally down, exhausted.
I've been there about 10 hours.
And I went in the bathroom, take a piss, and I walked out.
And one of the security guys saw me ranting ray on air and he said, my God, or what drugs are you going to have?
A heart attack?
Are you on cocaine?
I said, I hate cocaine.
I'm not on drugs.
I said, I'm in a war.
Well, how'd you go from looking completely exhausted to like ready to kill somebody coming out of that bathroom?
jordan holmes
Oh, kids.
unidentified
I looked at that mirror and I said, I'm not going to be these people's slaves.
alex jones
I'm not going to bat out of them.
unidentified
I will not be your slave ever.
alex jones
And it's going to take that type of attitude that's going to smash these pedophile scum that are anti-human and are jacked into some evil.
So that's what I'm on is the life force.
And to quote John Paul Jones, I've only begun to fight.
But I really appreciate this crew and this audience for keeping us in the fight.
And I need you to keep me in the fight now.
unidentified
Now.
alex jones
I'll give you everything I've got because you submit to these people's death.
But all I need is your word of mouth and your prayers and your support.
dan friesen
Please just give me money.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
I will fake mood swing.
jordan holmes
That was pathetic.
That was really pathetic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That was really.
dan friesen
Two things that I love.
One is how artificial that mood swing is.
And if it's not, he needs to see a doctor.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because that is outrageous, unacceptable.
Yeah.
The second thing is when he's talking about not being on cocaine, he describes going to a bathroom where people do cocaine.
jordan holmes
Almost entirely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what was crazy?
All those stories about Studio 54 back in the day.
You know, people would always go into the bathroom and they'd just scream into the mirror.
They'd be like, I'm going to dance.
dan friesen
I'm not somebody who's done a lot of cocaine in my life, but I'm not going to say that I never have.
But I will say that I don't think I've ever done it outside of bathroom.
jordan holmes
I think we can include laundry rooms.
dan friesen
Hard to say.
jordan holmes
Hard to say.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I don't know.
I think Alex is on cocaine.
Yeah.
Or just, I don't know.
Everything is so fake about the passion and yeah, that's that's really bad acting.
Yeah, but he'll continue doing that as fakely as long as you pay him.
Please give him some money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't like being chastised for taking advantage of his discounts and then him being like, now I can't sell it at full price anymore.
dan friesen
That's funny.
jordan holmes
Like, don't tell me.
Don't tell me that.
dan friesen
I put things on sale too much, and now people are used to it.
And they know that I'll just put everything on sale in a week if it's not on sale now.
And so they never buy anything at a real normal price.
So I have to buy things on sale.
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
That's every time.
Yeah, that's like if every time you went to Walgreens, they're like, oh, you're really only going to buy these Reese's cups on fucking $2 for $3 day, huh?
You're not going to buy them on a $1 for $1.99 day.
dan friesen
Yeah, if one of them.
jordan holmes
You piece of shit.
dan friesen
If one employee at Walgreens, like after Easter, like the day after Easter, their job was just to boo at everybody.
Oh, now.
jordan holmes
Oh, you want the Easter eggs.
Oh, they're delicious.
Oh, they're so good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex gets to some of the news.
alex jones
All right, let me show you these articles.
We'll start going to these guests.
Look at these.
The big revolver article that's got the globalists running scared.
And that's a good thing.
And we literally foresaw it and pushed it together three weeks ago.
This enemy of freedom.
White House unveils a new strategy to counter domestic terrorism.
They mean real Americans.
Laser focus on violence.
The same thing, Brennan, that communist pervert said.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Why does unveil strategy to combat domestic extremism?
It's everywhere.
It's their whole operation.
dan friesen
So, first of all, this article isn't on Revolver.
Revolver isn't so much a news site as much as it is an attempt to make a new Drudge report now that the Trump camp has turned on Drudge.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just a bunch of links to clickbait headlines for the most part.
The actual article that Alex is talking about here in this clip is from The Hill.
The article is not some kind of a bombshell that has the globalists running scared.
It's a discussion about how the plans that have been floated by Biden's administration have some possibly good ideas, but also there's some serious blind spots.
For instance, here's a quote that's included in that article.
Quote, the Biden administration is rightly focused on addressing white supremacist violence, but its strategy includes none of the civil rights and liberty safeguards that rights groups and communities of color have long sought.
That's a criticism of Biden's plan that was put out in a statement by the ACLU, a group that Alex believes is high-level globalist.
It seems like the ACLU shouldn't be getting in the mix trying to sow doubt about the globalist plans if they're on board with the globalist plans.
But look, man, I'm not a 30-dimension chess player or whatever the fuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if I was a 30-dimension chess player, I would say that Alex's opposition to this makes more sense or no, never mind.
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
dan friesen
On some level, if I were Alex, I would see that new plan that Biden put out as a real threat to my business model.
One of the pillars of the plan is to, quote, confront long-term contributors to domestic terrorism.
In that section, they say, quote, the U.S. government will also work to find ways to counter the polarization often fueled by disinformation, misinformation, and dangerous conspiracy theories online, supporting an information environment that fosters healthy democratic discourse.
I'm not sure that I believe that they're capable of achieving that goal, but if I were Alex, I would recognize that this looks like a situation where he might not get to fly completely under the radar moving forward.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that might not be good for him.
dan friesen
I have some qualms with the plan, but it's not really a specific plan.
It's very general.
And critiquing the general plan is good for conversation and for fostering better ideas.
Sure.
You know, getting the best ideas possible.
But I don't think it's where the actual fights are going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think the only thing about any of those plans has always got to boil down to, hey, hey, guys, guys, tell me honestly, when there's a Republican president or even this president, will this be primarily used to hurt leftist activists?
And the answer is 99% of the time, yes.
So certainly.
Let's calm it down on our plans real quick.
dan friesen
So Alex is, you know, the false flag, January 6th was a false flag.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And you know what?
Other people have false flagged before.
Now, we know from listening to 2003 that whenever this line of conversation would come up, Putin.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex would use Putin as an example, use it every day in 2003.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Slightly different in the present.
alex jones
Oh, just as the old czarist would stage attacks.
And just as the old KGB would do it, and Hitler launched World War II on the back of stage attacks.
jordan holmes
Somebody was in part of state craft.
Remember.
alex jones
And it's something that corrupt, declining systems do.
dan friesen
Huh.
unidentified
Huh.
dan friesen
Strange how his phrasing is a little bit.
unidentified
It's so weird that he would call corrupt collapsing countries that did this.
jordan holmes
You know, like it seems weird that there would be one very obvious example.
dan friesen
Well, 18 years changes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to what he's planning to do for the beginning of this emergency report.
alex jones
Now, I'm going to hand this over to an interview I did on Friday with one of the main lawyers who is defending people arrested in the Capitol.
So this is an interview from Friday, and then I've got an interview that some watch, but not enough, of my head of security, Tim Enloe, from January 6th, when he witnessed what he saw and what happened.
He ended up telling the story a little while after it unfolded when we were on a family vacation in Utah.
But Tim Enlow goes through exactly what really transpired and what happened.
dan friesen
So Alex plays like 20 seconds of like a lawyer.
I don't even know how to make heads or tails of it.
And then a very long conversation he had with his security guard.
jordan holmes
It was easier to get him.
dan friesen
On a family vacation, he interviewed his security guard.
Also, Rob Dew is there.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What's a good dad?
dan friesen
As I recall, the Utah trip was when he went to his food supplier, the My Patriot supply warehouse.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't, I don't.
Family vacation with the security guard going to your disaster food supply?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's, but that's.
dan friesen
That's kind of, that sucks.
jordan holmes
That's just a business trip.
That's not even a work cation or whatever it is you want to call it.
That's just going to work.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you're the kids and you're along for that, you're not having a great time.
jordan holmes
Bummer.
And you're in Utah.
I mean, Salt Lake City is nice.
dan friesen
Sure.
We don't need to listen to anything of the security guard because it's honestly just exactly what they've said pretty much all along, which is, you know, hey, we were asked to lead this march to the Capitol because there was another stage that was going to be set up there.
There was going to be another rally.
And as far as I can tell, that makes sense.
It seems like everyone's actions make sense based on that.
Trump was on stage saying that he was going to march down with them.
They're going to have another rally to give strength to the spy-in-needing Republicans.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, and sure, I don't know.
I found the interview incredibly boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it doesn't contradict any of the things that I think are actually the problems.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it's just kind of, it's on the side.
No, partially.
jordan holmes
Their defense is, I mean, it rings true just because it's the only part of the story that they have told exactly the same way over and over and over again.
You know, like every other part of it, oh, it's a false flag.
Antifa's in there.
All that stuff has changed 30 times in the first week after it happened.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
But the story of like, we weren't instigating, we were walking here, always the same.
Always the same.
dan friesen
And the video of Alex very clearly being like, don't do this.
Like, it checks out and it does follow his behavior.
Even when I was watching the live coverage on the day, the way that Harrison Smith was celebrating it.
And then once Alex realized shit was going down, everything changed.
The coverage on Infowars changed because Alex was in the field.
He didn't have control over what Harrison was doing.
And then they got the script and they realized, oh, shit.
And Alex, like, there's also video of one of his employees trying to get the police to let Alex get on a megaphone to calm the crowd down.
Like, first of all, if you're the cop, absolutely not.
jordan holmes
No, way.
No way am I giving Alex Jones a megaphone.
dan friesen
Because what if you do?
And then he's like, take the building.
jordan holmes
Oh, he can go rogue at any time.
You can't trust him.
He's a rogue agent.
dan friesen
And even best case scenario, he gets up there and he's like, hey, everybody, stop.
And then they don't.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a no-win situation.
But the video that they have of their actions and their behavior on that day, unless somebody can provide actual evidence of them doing that as cover for what they're doing behind the scenes, unless that can be demonstrated, then I just, I don't know.
I don't think the story of Alex's actual actions that day are as important as the story and the conversation about how these narratives propelled people to these actions.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
I think the thing that bothers me most about people being like, oh, see, Alex, look at these videos.
See, Alex was there and he was leading all this shit is that ultimately you're giving Alex too much credit.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're turning him into like Darth Vader.
jordan holmes
He is too much of a coward to ever even come close to doing something like that.
And so whenever you give him that kind of like, I'm sure part of the reason that he wants to do this is just so he can be like, see, look at how, look at how strong people think I am.
Look at how much people think I could be running everything if only I weren't so much of a giant fucking coward.
dan friesen
Coward and, I mean, just a stumble bum.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Like it's good for the brand and it's a business and all that stuff.
But I mean, ultimately, I really don't think he has the courage to do something like that.
dan friesen
I would be surprised.
Yeah.
Speaking of the business, though, Alex does play an ad.
Of course.
I think this is after the Security Guard interview.
And I just thought this was really funny.
alex jones
The globalists want all of us to be victims.
Everything they do is about debilitating us, dumbing us down, making us sickly, and trying to cut us off from each other and cut us off from God.
Well, about four years ago, the Jones family began to carry out a ritual of health.
Every three or four days, I get out, a scoop, a vitamin Rusion or two, put it in a glass pitcher, stir it up, put some ice in it, put it in the refrigerator, and at least once or twice a day, have a refreshing, totally healthy, nutritious drink.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex's family has a ritual of making juice from powder.
jordan holmes
I man.
dan friesen
I just think it's fun to call it a ritual.
Globalists are trying to kill us all off.
And so in order to fight back, my family has a new ritual, which is we make juice.
jordan holmes
We make Kool-Aid pretty regularly.
dan friesen
But it's healthy Kool-Aid.
jordan holmes
You know, like, if you've ever seen those Sonny D commercials, we're like, no, Sonny D, we're going to make our own stuff.
alex jones
You know, we're cool like that.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I just think that's fun.
The phrasing is fun.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Something that's less fun is that Alex then starts having some guests.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's no fun.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Is Stuart Rhodes one of us?
alex jones
When Font has joins us, we appreciate his time.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Talk about this.
Wow.
What a historic point.
What a crazy thing to be involved with, Nick.
jordan holmes
No.
nick fuentes
Well, and it's a really groundbreaking new report here from Revolver.
I think it's blown the lid wide open on this entire situation and hopefully given some clarity about what really went on on that day, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, so the baby bigot, Nick Fuentes, is in the mix.
And I kind of misspoke earlier.
Revolver is primarily just a link aggregator like Drudge, but they do actually post some of their own blog content.
And I think What happened earlier is that Alex referenced a link they posted to this Hill article when his talking point for the day was supposed to be about this blog that Nick brings up.
jordan holmes
Gotcha, gotcha.
dan friesen
This is just a really overwritten plea for people to insist that the only relevant variable in terms of January 6th is whether or not law enforcement had moles inside the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and the three percenters.
That's the only thing that matters.
And if law enforcement did, then the whole thing has to be a sham.
One paragraph really stood out to me as dumb.
Quote, if it turns out that the federal government, FBI, Army Counterintelligence, or a similar agency, had undercover agents or confidential informants embedded in any of the groups involved in January 6th, the federal intelligence agency's failing to warn of a potential for violence looks less like an innocent mistake and more like something sinister.
This is part of a discussion about how the excuse that has been used to explain the storming that there was an intelligence failure.
But that's what was used.
But if there were any informants, then that can't be true.
And that's a suspicious thing that they're using that excuse now.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Anyone who has any idea how these types of groups operate knows that this sentiment is just so dumb.
Groups like the Oath Keepers specifically follow a leaderless resistance model so they can avoid damage that confidential informants can cause.
One group inside the organization might have no idea what another group is up to, and it's best if it stays that way.
There are central figures in these organizations like Stuart Rhodes for the Oath Keepers or Enrique Tario for the Proud Boys, but they aren't going to know what each of their splinter groups is up to.
They set up their groups like disconnected franchises because then it's harder to disrupt.
This is a classic strategy that the extreme right wing has been using for a long time, but specifically since the 90s.
jordan holmes
And all terrorists.
dan friesen
But very explicitly, you can find conversations in right-wing circles of this being their model since the 90s.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, they wanted to create an insurgent attitude, and they have 100% done so.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Even Alex's show operates kind of this way.
Like when Millie Weaver put out Shadowgate, it was pretty clear that Alex had no idea what she was doing with her time.
He was paying for the documentary, but he didn't know what her point was, who she was talking to.
He didn't know anything.
She, as is the case with most of his employees, are tasked with knowing what they're supposed to do and operating in ways where Alex has plausible deniability to not be personally implicated if something they do is a fuck-up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Pretending that an informant in any of these organizations would definitively prove that the government had all the information about the group's plans is just dumb.
And I refuse to believe that whoever wrote this piece doesn't know that.
This is just sort of like a defense argument.
It's not even a real argument.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's kind of ridiculous.
dan friesen
I tried to read this piece and it basically just boils down to how there are people who are left anonymous in charging documents for the Oath Keepers.
You know, like there's the charging documents for the Oath Keepers who were indicted in the storming.
There's names that are not listed in there, like person two, person three.
And so like, what if these people are FBI agents?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's full of like enticing speculation, but it literally proves nothing.
It's just, it's a very long article that proves nothing.
jordan holmes
So then it's not even, they're not even making the argument that it's a false flag so much as it's entrapment.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, but I mean, false flag can mean whatever you want now.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Well, that's fair.
It is fair that words have no meaning in this world.
dan friesen
Not anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the idea is that these FBI agents inside these groups who are now these unnamed people in the charging documents are FB.
They're all FBI agents.
jordan holmes
All FBI.
dan friesen
And guess what?
Alex knows who they are.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Because I have a lot of sources.
And let's just leave it at that.
We know the names of the FBI agents that are actually in the building, not just informants.
What are they going to do, Nick, in the next few weeks and months when that's all released?
I mean, it's perfect.
If they'd have spun and said, yeah, we were in there to try to stop it.
They could.
But no, they did not at all, Nick.
They've taken the bait again.
dan friesen
Watch this space for Alex to announce the names of these people.
Wow.
I can't wait for this not to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would definitely ruin his parade if he just started naming FBI agents.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Nick Fuentes is incredibly annoying, and I find him insufferable to listen to.
He's not talking about being banned from flying at this point, but he is talking about how this, January 6th, unravels.
And when it unravels, everything comes with it.
It's like that sweater song by the Weezer, right?
jordan holmes
Weezer.
Ah.
Not a Weezer guy.
dan friesen
No?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
You don't know that if you want to destroy my sweater?
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
I do not pull this thread as I walk away.
jordan holmes
Not a Weezer guy.
Not even Pinkerton.
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't really love them that much either, but I know references.
Anyway, if you want to destroy the globalist sweater, you pull the thread of January 6th while they walk away.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
nick fuentes
What's going to unravel in all of this is the myth of January 6th.
That will unravel the myth of the 2020 election, the Biden landslide.
That will unravel the myth of COVID, which was the pretext to use the mail-in ballots to rig the election.
It's going to unravel all the events of the entire past one year and how all of this was culminating in the overthrow of Donald Trump by the deep state.
It was all just a big color revolution.
And this is one of those things that is going to, if this comes apart, will unravel a series of huge, massive lies.
dan friesen
So Nick Fuentes has a unified conspiracy about everything that's happened over the last year and a half or so.
jordan holmes
Cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So when this goes nowhere, what's his new fucking bullshit?
dan friesen
It probably gets back to complaining about the airlines.
unidentified
I know.
I just, I just can't stand this.
dan friesen
I don't know.
He'll just retreat to like demographic birth rate nonsense.
jordan holmes
Has anybody tried really yelling into his face that really like just but just like no over and over and over and over again.
dan friesen
I know that you think that you have a banshee-like power with your yelling.
I think that a smug prick like Nick Fuentes is pretty immune to yelling.
jordan holmes
All right, we'll see.
dan friesen
I would assume that throughout his high school career and the few years he's been out of high school, he's been getting a lot of people yelling.
jordan holmes
That's probably true.
Oh, God, he's so easy to hate.
dan friesen
Oh, and it's so easy to hate.
And it only gets easier.
alex jones
And again, it's globalist interests are going to organize groups into thinking it's okay to literally attack and overrun and attack white people.
This is the sick Marxist plan.
They're not going to do it according to class.
They're going to do it according to race.
They admit that.
jordan holmes
They do.
nick fuentes
They do.
And you're right.
That's what's happening in South Africa.
That is what happened in Wimbabwe, formerly Rhodesia.
This is what's happening all across the world.
And, you know, people are just going to have to make a really tough decision, which is what are we willing to do to save our Western civilization?
We were given this great inheritance.
dan friesen
Okay.
Okay, Nick.
So I love when someone like a Nick Fuentes is like, I'm not racist at all.
And then he starts talking about Western heritage and our great inheritance and how it was squandered.
And the two examples that he has of the squandering of it are South Africa and fucking Rhodesia.
What do those things have in common, Nick?
I can't dumb bastard.
jordan holmes
I can't believe that white people were forced to endure the injustice of continuing to own 90% of South Africa.
dan friesen
I feel like those sorts of moments are real indications that he's trolling.
Whenever he's like, I'm not racist, I just care about America.
Like, he knows he's fucking with people.
Like, it's outrageous.
jordan holmes
Rhodesia means white nationalist, the end.
Just being like, hey, here's how Rhodesia should have gone.
We keep it is white nationalist the end.
I mean, there's no other way of putting it.
We believe we should be able to go into a country, take all of their land by force and violence, and then force them to work for us for nothing.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, fuck Nick Fuentes.
jordan holmes
Fuck Nick Fuentes.
dan friesen
Alex had other guests on this show, and so I deemed some of this a priority thing.
I got kind of tired of Nick.
They weren't really talking about much.
It was kind of just about how, like, the extreme right is so strong.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The system is weak.
jordan holmes
And you guys couldn't even overthrow the fucking capital.
dan friesen
All of this, but they're going to pull that thread and all of this is going to collapse.
The system's done for.
The right is going to win.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound true.
dan friesen
Alex also has his lawyer, Barnes, on.
We're not going to listen to any of that because who gives a shit.
jordan holmes
Good work, Barnes.
You didn't even make it onto our show.
Nope.
dan friesen
Just bored me.
jordan holmes
Try stand-up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex also talks to Pete Santilli, who's a guy we've heard a couple times on the show.
And I heard this, and I was like, well, you are disqualified, sir.
pete santilli
So when my dad, when I got out of the Marine Corps, he gave me a sit-down.
He was telling me how powerful the Nazi socialist movement was.
And he, in fact, and my dad is not a white supremacist, but he did describe to me historically, he said it was so powerful.
99% of the people in Germany voted for Hitler.
It was the people that allowed Hitler to rise to power because of the trinkets that they offer.
Of course, freebies for everyone, schooling for everyone.
He said it was so powerful that it was the people that actually propelled Hitler to power.
dan friesen
Firstly, Hitler was very specifically not in favor of universal programs.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
I'm sure that at no point was he out there advocating for free tuition for everyone.
Maybe for Aryans or something, but not for maybe later.
Second, this is an absolute fabrication and lie about how Hitler came to power.
It doesn't matter that this has nothing to do with reality.
This story doesn't exist to convey history and help people understand the world better.
The reason this story exists is to demonize social welfare programs, pure and simple.
Hitler didn't become chancellor because he and the Nazis offered everyone trinkets.
He'd run for president against Hindenburg in 1932, and he got 36.8% of the vote.
And afterwards, he was appointed chancellor as part of an attempt to create a coalition government that would tamp down the Nazi movement from getting out of control, but more importantly, make sure that the communists stayed far away from power.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
By the time of the work.
By the time of the Reichstag fire and the Enabling Act, the only people in government who were opposing Hitler were the left-leaning social democrats, and probably the communists would have, but they weren't in the Reichstag anymore.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
dan friesen
Pete Santilli tells this story because he wants everyone listening to think that if you have a politician talking about expanding Medicare or Social Security, the next thing they're going to do is set up concentration camps.
It's total bullshit.
He's just against public spending.
It's just a desperate attempt to make that argument based on nothing.
jordan holmes
And just one of the subtlest things in it is that 99% number of just like, it is easy and it is right to demonize everyone that disagrees with you.
99% of them will be taken in by trinkets.
They're not even people smart enough to wake up.
They can't.
Trinkets are all they need.
So it's fine to obliterate them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just like you wanted to the Nazis.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yep.
So anyway, fuck Pete Santilli, too.
This emergency report really was about one thing for me.
I don't care about Alex's ideas that January 6th is false flag.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't care about Nick Fuentes.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I don't care about Barnes and I don't care about Pete Santill.
All of them.
I care about one thing, Mike Down.
alex jones
Well, he's one of our most popular guests, and he is back by demand.
Dr. Steve Pieczenik is a best-selling author.
Yes.
jordan holmes
You're a witch.
You were saying last week we were talking after the show.
You were like, man, I'm missing Steve.
I've been needing a big swing.
dan friesen
But I also was saying that, like, I feel Steve coming back.
jordan holmes
He's coming.
dan friesen
Like, it's just.
jordan holmes
It's around the corner.
dan friesen
Even when Alex and him had the falling out about his ridiculous predictions around the election, I still was like, all right, he's on timeout.
He'll be back.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He'll be back.
And here we are.
Here we are in June.
Steve is back.
jordan holmes
So as far as the bet went.
dan friesen
He made the soft landing into Owen's show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He started coming back on the war room a little bit.
Okay.
And then that was the way to get the toe in the water.
But the thing that I find really interesting about that clip is that Alex is like, by popular demand, Steve Pieczenik is back.
I think he might have gotten bullied into having Steve back on.
jordan holmes
It does kind of seem like it.
And they let him go on Owen's show as like a, hey, listen, if you can prove you can stay on target on this show, then we'll give you that.
dan friesen
Or if it's not too humiliating.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's so great.
jordan holmes
What a fucking kid gloves.
He's too popular to get rid of completely, but I hate him so much.
dan friesen
I got to say that if there were a guest that we had, like if we had guests, and there was a guest we had who was really, really popular, but also was a complete dick and was using us and lying to everybody.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I wouldn't care how popular they were.
No.
They would not be on my show ever again.
jordan holmes
No.
And if we had people being like, no, you got to have him back on the show, we'd be like, we will not be having him back on the show.
End of conversation.
dan friesen
And you should stop listening because you like that guy.
jordan holmes
If you like it, goodbye.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, what integrity Alex has.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's just one of the heroes of our time.
Tip of the spear.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
So Alex lets Steve speak his piece.
And this to me is Steve declaring victory over intro wars.
steve pieczenik
It's always a pleasure, Alex.
Always remember you and I are the focus of the rage of the left.
And particularly when you had what we call liberal fascism.
This is what you're beginning to see with the Biden administration, with Susan Rice, with Obama.
Biden isn't running anything.
He had three aneurysms.
He's cognitively impaired.
There's a demand for him to take a test.
The real issue now is that we are in the midst of a military coup.
I said it to you a year and a half ago.
We're going to have to market computers.
We marked the ballots.
We know exactly who's corrupt.
We know where the corruption is occurring.
And what you're seeing is the federal government trying to hold on.
dan friesen
So now by popular demand, Alex has to have Steve back on.
And Steve isn't budging on the watermark ballots.
steve pieczenik
Nope.
jordan holmes
They made the bet.
He lost the bet.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And still going for it.
dan friesen
Well, he's going to mold reality in such a way as to win the bet.
jordan holmes
an asshole what a that i mean i can totally understand why alex hates him like on a deep level because that is a narcissistic psychopath fighting a narcissistic psychopath and losing your reality to his That's brutal.
dan friesen
But one of the, like, it's two narcissistic psychopaths, but one is way better at manipulating.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a pro.
He's a real pro.
And Alex is an easy mark.
dan friesen
So you might have some doubts about watermark ballots.
jordan holmes
I have plenty of them.
dan friesen
You should let those doubts go to bed.
unidentified
Okay.
steve pieczenik
We marked the computers.
We've marked Alex.
jordan holmes
We, Steve.
steve pieczenik
Crypto engraving, and it was a sophisticated engraving.
This was a sting operation run by many of our military intelligence, civilian intelligence, key selected people who knew that we were having a corrupt government and they were tired of war.
And we went on your show to basically pronounce that and make that announcement clear to the American public because you became the one source that was reliable, valid, and important to our institutions.
jordan holmes
I am going to say a bunch of shit directly to your face that you know is not true and have told me is not true.
And then I'm going to compliment you for it at the end.
That went from compliment as a way of buttering up to compliment as the knife stuck deep into your gut and then twisted around.
dan friesen
Battery as a weapon.
jordan holmes
Oh, that is good stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, because in order to stand up for your dignity, disagreeing with the bullshit I'm saying, you would have to disagree with the compliment they're giving you.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, that's so evil.
That's evil.
That's just so good.
dan friesen
So, Steve's got another prediction here, and it's I don't think this is a good one.
Basically, he's saying that the Democrats won't exist within a few months.
jordan holmes
Oh, that'll be tough.
steve pieczenik
And what you're seeing is the eruption of a party that will no longer exist within a few more months.
They sound as if they're going to be successful, but they're not at all.
dan friesen
So, I'll give them, just to be generous to Steve, I'll give them till the end of the year.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, the Democratic Party exists by the beginning of 2022.
Steve will once again be incorrect.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would say I have to, I'll stop at it at about halfway through the campaign season.
You know what I'm saying?
Whenever the Democratic congressmen are going back for their next House of Representatives, the senators are up for that's past a few months.
Well, I'm trying to be as generous as possible.
dan friesen
I feel like giving six months is pretty generous.
jordan holmes
That's true.
But, I mean, you know, you got to at least see if the Democrats campaign before they're eradicated completely.
dan friesen
Maybe they, yeah, I don't know.
This is all bullshit.
jordan holmes
Super bullshit.
dan friesen
So, Alex has this big talking point that he throws out a bunch.
And it's that Trump has come out and he said, we're going to win back Congress and maybe even the presidency before you expect it.
jordan holmes
No, that's probably true.
dan friesen
Well, Alex asks Steve, why did Trump say that stuff?
And Steve's got an interesting answer.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
What about the amazing statement by Trump two weeks ago where he said, We're going to win the House, we're going to win the Senate, and we're going to win the presidency a lot sooner than you think.
Basically, saying Joe Biden would be gone.
And now you see prestigious Democrat doctors saying he needs to step down.
jordan holmes
Prestige.
alex jones
You see all the evidence of election fraud and the proof coming out.
And I look at the body language of Garland and of others.
They look like deer in the headlights.
So can you lay out for us what you thought was going to happen on January 6th versus what's happened, but what's then now unfolding right now?
And what do you think Trump's cryptic statement meant?
steve pieczenik
What Trump's statement meant was simply to say that he knew and was aware and partook of the fact that we in the military and in the intelligence community selected a certain number of people to be involved in what we call the sting operation where we put watermarks and encrypted code on the machines, the voting machines, and all the ballots.
dan friesen
So Trump is in on it now.
jordan holmes
That is so good.
That is so good.
Alex gave him that subtle, like, what you thought back then.
Tell us what you think now.
As though they were going to be different.
Nope.
Same bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Alex is also giving some signal to like, hey, you know, It turns out you maybe were right about all that stuff.
Maybe I was wrong too.
That's such a submitting idea.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
steve pieczenik
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Alex got tricked by daddy again.
dan friesen
Yep.
One of the things that might come into your mind is like, okay.
So they ran this big sting operation.
Obviously, there's going to be some guilty parties.
jordan holmes
Sure, you got to.
dan friesen
Somebody's got to be in prison, right?
jordan holmes
Secret indictments.
steve pieczenik
Involved in what we call the sting operation, where we put watermarks and encrypted code on the machines, the voting machines, and all the ballots.
In the process, we understood that there would be a lot of people implicated, indicted, and convicted, and sent not to the prisons in America, but to our prisons in Guantanamo.
We built a whole new facility a year ago using new wiring, not in the old Guantanamo, but in the mountains of Guantanamo.
Many of these people have been sent down without any notice to anybody else.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, so apparently a bunch of people are secretly in Guantanamo now.
So this is just QAnon stuff.
jordan holmes
There's a bunch of white-collar bureaucrats they forced to go to a mountain stronghold prison in Guantanamo?
dan friesen
And probably the Pope.
jordan holmes
And probably the real Pope.
Yeah, that's probably true.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
I don't want to go to that prison.
No, no, that sounds terrible.
dan friesen
So Steve gets talking about January 6th.
And essentially what it is is a Pelosi-Merrick Garland false flag or something.
jordan holmes
Just doesn't sound true.
dan friesen
It's not.
But what's more important, listen to Steve spin his wheels while trying to describe Merrick Garland.
Mike down for this.
I really want you to pay attention to this because it's outrageous.
steve pieczenik
And this is once again Nancy Pelosi agreeing to have this type of false flag using another one of our Washington-based, quote, attorney generals, Garland.
It's a fool.
Garland went to a school called Andover.
He was a little prep school from a Wasp family in New York, then went to Yale, and then went to a prestigious law firm where he only earned $9 million, Alex, in one case and is worth between about $16 million to $24 million, never having served our country, never having built a business, never having to take a risk like you and I have.
So basically, oh, Garland, I'm sorry, is the Jewish guy.
It's the other guy.
No, that's, yeah, he's the Jewish guy who also went ironically to Harvard, also went to Harvard undergraduate, Harvard law school.
dan friesen
Steve got the memorized bio for Merrick Garland wrong.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, that doesn't sound right at all.
dan friesen
No.
He's just, he has these like little bits of little information that he's memorized about folks to throw out.
But you also notice that the things that he sort of hinges on are like he's a wasp.
He's a Jewish guy.
It's weird.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yeah.
You got to know what people are before you can build an opinion about them, James.
And that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Seems to be what Steve.
jordan holmes
That's what Steve believes.
And that's because he's a giant fucking white nationalist racist.
dan friesen
Boy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And scary.
jordan holmes
Terrifying.
dan friesen
If he actually believes the things that he's saying, he is so scary.
He is.
He, oh, God.
People should be chasing him with butterfly nets.
jordan holmes
No, no, absolutely.
He should be in a Hannibal Elector Mask 100%.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Steve gets to talking about how the Democrats are done.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But is the GOP because Trump has now created a new better party.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And his reasoning for this is strange.
unidentified
Okay.
steve pieczenik
What you're seeing is the end of a political party, the so-called Democrats.
In turn, we will end the Republican Party as we know it because Trump came in as a black sheep in the dynamics of politics.
In other words, he was so far out that we, the people, understood that we needed a businessman to come in and no longer a politician.
As Vladimir Putin said it correctly when he saw Biden, or if he did see Biden, he said, look, Biden is nothing more than a political hack who's been around for 43 years.
What I need is a man who has character, personality, and is able to take the risks that I, Putin, have taken before in running Russia.
dan friesen
So, yeah, apparently Biden's a bad president because Putin doesn't like him.
jordan holmes
You know, it's really weird in 2021 to listen to just out-and-out fascists talk fascistly, you know, where you're like, I don't remember people being so openly fascist back in the day.
Maybe I just wasn't paying attention, but as a kid, I don't remember like just hearing all these fascists talk all the fascist time.
dan friesen
I do feel like this is more overt than even I remember somehow.
jordan holmes
Really fascist.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, and like, just even on the, you know, putting that aside, think about how overt like this conversation about an ongoing military coup to overthrow the government is.
jordan holmes
And banal, too.
dan friesen
Steve is almost sort of like gleefully just discussing, like, ah, we're, we're overthrowing the government.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's all over.
steve pieczenik
At this point, we're basically cleaning out what I call the lavage of 21.
This is a political lavage of America, both Republicans and Democrats.
alex jones
All right, Dr. McCene, explain what a political lavage is for those of us that didn't live in France.
steve pieczenik
A political lavage.
It's a basic, I'm using a fancy term that I created to make sure that the American people understand we're basically cleaning out the system.
An alternative term for that was a coup or regime change.
When I came on your show and I explained that I had the right to say publicly that we were in the midst and the beginning of a military coup, which was a sting operation, I wasn't coming to the forefront and saying something that I wasn't allowed to say.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's got a lavage going on.
Or if you don't know what Steve's made up political term is, it's a coup.
jordan holmes
I was going to say coup, but I said a different word to make everybody think that I'm super smart.
But instead, I just made up a term, which makes me look like a complete asshole.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, you know, he's got an ongoing military coup on his hands, and that seems like a lot.
That seems like a lot.
But Steve's team, they're in deep.
They're everywhere.
jordan holmes
It does seem like that.
dan friesen
Dude, this is a big revelation.
If true, which it's not, this is a huge deal.
steve pieczenik
We in the administration, well, we outside the administration, some of them are famous generals.
Keith Alexander's one.
He's on Amazon.
We threw out Bezos.
He's head of the chairman of the board at Amazon.
But the reason we took over Amazon was we wanted a cloud, a civilian cloud, and the largest cloud.
In turn, we placed in a four-star general Nakassoni, third generation Nissa.
You are out of your fucking mind Western Front.
He was in cyber command.
We put him into the White House.
So what we did was to take over this administration and allow it to play out in their own corruption, in their own miscreant way, because we knew that everything they were about to do would be either ignorant, corrupt, and dangerous to the United States.
alex jones
Let me tell you what adds credence to what you're saying.
Ziggy Boy won't even talk to Biden or any administration.
They won't even talk to him like they're scared, like they know it's a trap.
dan friesen
Steve has a little team and they've taken over Amazon and the government.
It's amazing.
jordan holmes
This is a big swing.
dan friesen
Yeah, oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a big swing.
You know, you come to Steve for a big swing, and we overthrew Amazon first.
Not the swing I was expecting, but that's a big one.
dan friesen
They needed the cloud.
jordan holmes
That biggest company in the world thing, we stole it.
We commandeered it.
Bezos, get out of here.
dan friesen
If Alex took that seriously for a fucking second, one second.
He would have to be like, all right, Steve, fix all that shit that I complain about Amazon all the time.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Totally.
Then why aren't you guys doing anything right?
Yeah.
You're military-owned now or whatever.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
So one of the things that Steve wants you to know, though, is like, okay, so look, there appear to be some frosty relations between Biden and China.
Sure.
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Doesn't seem like things are maybe as amicable.
jordan holmes
Bad time.
dan friesen
Not great.
Yeah.
But it's fine.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's fine.
jordan holmes
Well, that's good.
dan friesen
Because Steve talked to China.
steve pieczenik
No, But the key point here was that Xi Ji Ping understood that Biden was not in control.
I had sent him a message with the approval of my people a year and a half ago that this was not relevant to China.
We would remain friends of China.
At the same time, we sent a message to Modi of India to say we are your friends as well.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Steve's in touch with Xi and Modi.
jordan holmes
Wow.
I feel like Steve is more involved now than he was in the past.
steve pieczenik
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
I feel like now Steve has gone from being like, I'm part of an operation to being like, I'm running this shit.
dan friesen
I think it's an escalation that comes with knowing that you're untouchable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex can't fuck with you at all.
So why not go ahead and create yourself as like this arch super villain slash hero, I guess, depending on perspective.
jordan holmes
Why not?
And he's using we and you think he's talking about his team, but part of me is like, we're at the royal we level of him describing himself, you know?
dan friesen
At this point, you can get away with whatever you want.
You've got Alex basically dead to rights on everything.
He's not going to put up a fight about anything.
He fired David Knight, you off the show for a few months, and now he's forced to have you back.
Like you could get away with whatever you want.
Why not just legend build?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex has to yes and you.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, but Jesus, this is so big.
dan friesen
I control all the levers of power in the world.
I told China, put up with Biden.
jordan holmes
It's cool.
Like, there's that big lie theory that he's operating on with you, Alex now.
This is too big.
This is too big of a lie.
This is just too big.
dan friesen
But I did notice there that he pronounced it Xi Jiping.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And that makes me think that that's why Alex pronounces it that way.
jordan holmes
That would make sense.
dan friesen
Probably from talking to Steve.
jordan holmes
Too much.
Which is how much anybody who ever speaks to Steve talks to Steve.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah, don't talk to that dude.
jordan holmes
Don't talk to him.
Just don't talk to him.
dan friesen
So Steve was talking about how they've taken over Amazon and they also took over the government.
And they took over the Biden administration essentially in order to let it play out its corrupt ways.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And this is because they wanted to show the world that this is all corrupt, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So let it happen.
See, it's a bad plan.
If Trump had won, then, you know, maybe you get a little bit done.
But if Trump loses, it shows how corrupt everything is.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You could get even more done.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, that's a bad plan.
That's a bad plan.
No, that's a bad plan.
dan friesen
Brilliant.
jordan holmes
I know you think you're playing the long game, but that's a bad plan.
dan friesen
It's brilliant.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Well, we'll see.
dan friesen
And that's all Trump was trying to do, man.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Trump was just trying to show the world that things weren't good.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound true.
steve pieczenik
What happens is you enter self-destruction.
And that's what Washington was all about.
And that's what Trump was trying to show the people.
And those of us who worked in Washington but no longer live there, trying to show the American people how incompetent, corrupt, and disgraceful these people, politicians were.
The Mitt Romney, a Mormon from Utah, yet he was a governor of Massachusetts.
Now he's a senator.
alex jones
No, no, no.
Undoubtedly, they're all incompetent.
Here's what I'm asking you: is listen, a blind hog gets anchors twice a day, broken clocks are ride twice a day.
I love hearing all this confidence.
It's wonderful for any OT.
All the ways come true.
They're now saying there are secret watermarks 3D holograms on the ballots.
And now I see certified experts.
It's true.
jordan holmes
Don't.
dan friesen
They're not.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, Alex.
Oh, man.
Oh, you loser.
Oh, see, this is what I'm saying.
Don't you dare tell me that Alex could help overthrow the fucking Capitol.
Steve Pieczenik made him turn into a little baby dog.
Pathetic.
dan friesen
Alex could actually help a fake overthrow of the government.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Yeah.
No, it'd be great.
dan friesen
In the War of the Worlds radio play.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
But yeah, this is a little silly.
So, Steve wants you to know that this is really actually a good thing that's going on.
The intelligence community, it's all getting cleansed.
And Alex is like, he's all worried for his own safety.
And Steve's like, you're fine.
alex jones
Of course.
dan friesen
You're fine.
jordan holmes
Of course.
steve pieczenik
This is far more of a cleansing than anybody realizes.
Will you be harmed?
No.
Are they dangerous?
Could be.
Will they hurt you?
No.
Will an Obama come back and write another nonsensical book?
Yes.
That's what they gave him.
He wrote on Netflix, a dying institute.
What happened in the process?
Hollywood went under.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess he does own Amazon Prime.
alex jones
You said on my show 18 years ago, this will all happen.
We've got to find those interviews.
You've been dead right, so I get what you're saying.
dan friesen
Yeah, you've got to find those interviews.
jordan holmes
Yeah, find those interviews.
dan friesen
Please.
jordan holmes
Find those interviews.
I would like you to find those interviews.
dan friesen
Yeah, I love that self-interview of like, are they going to hurt you?
No.
Are they dangerous?
Maybe.
But are they going to hurt you?
No.
Is Obama going to write another dumb book?
You bet.
jordan holmes
Wow.
What an infuriating way of talking to me.
You asshole.
He put it out on Netflix, a dying entity.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Netflix seems to be doing all right.
jordan holmes
Netflix is doing fine.
We're not.
I don't care.
Why does that have any?
dan friesen
So, look, you think that that's an annoying way for someone to speak?
jordan holmes
Do I?
Yes.
Is it going to continue?
Probably.
Am I worried?
No.
dan friesen
I would say that you need to show some goddamn respect because this man single-handedly took down the Soviet Union.
jordan holmes
No.
steve pieczenik
Years ago on your show, and maybe this was before I was on your show, 1980s, I was involved in the takedown of the Soviet Union.
Not me, just a group of us involved, both CIA and military.
We took it down without any force or kinetic action.
What happened is we made a little mistake.
Instead of picking someone like Putin, we decided, and that was my fault, to have somebody who was rational, open-minded, and we picked Gorbachev.
dan friesen
Look, Gorbachev is on me, guys.
jordan holmes
I cannot believe how magnanimous he is being with admitting guilt for a thing he could not have been less involved in.
Look, in the physical universe we inhabit, anything that he has ever done had zero effect.
dan friesen
Me and my boys, we took down the Soviet Union.
And then we fucked up.
We put in Gorbachev and Should have gone with a dictator right from the start.
jordan holmes
I do like that strategy of admitting fault for something that you absolutely did not do.
dan friesen
It's disarming in a certain way.
jordan holmes
I kind of like that.
Try that at work the next time.
Whenever they're like, hey, you have been doing a tech.
Listen, I'm really sorry.
I thought it would be a good idea to overthrow the human resources department.
And I installed the current head.
And that's on me.
That's on me right now.
And they're like, what?
Do you have a part of the hiring process?
What's happening?
dan friesen
Well, little do you know.
I have been pulling the strings on all capitalist enterprises since the beginning of time.
I invented investing.
jordan holmes
Just sweep.
Hey, have you ever seen undercover boss and then take your beard off?
dan friesen
I invented the chair.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
You know, before I came along, there wasn't photosynthesis.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
I just can't.
Steve Pieczenik, man.
That dude.
There's a disease there, but I don't know which, what, or how bad it is.
dan friesen
What's so amazing about him is that, like, I feel this way about Alex, too.
It's like, there will never be another.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Like, there won't be another Alex because he came along at this perfect time in the era of public access TV and right-wing radio becoming ascendant when his career was taking an upward tick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he had this established career at the point when new media was really becoming a thing and social media.
And so he had some credibility that other people lacked when information became so easily disseminated.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Steve Pieczenik is a guy who's nuts.
He is one of the most fun liars I think I've ever heard.
jordan holmes
Just spectacular.
dan friesen
But he also did work at the State Department.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
He was involved in Aldo Moro's death.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, these are things that are just real.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They did happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
All these other dicks who come around, people who are on Project Camelot, they're just making up everything.
Steve's making up a lot.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But he also has that veneer of credibility that comes from what he was doing in the 70s.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, no, I don't know if anyone will ever be able to replicate that.
jordan holmes
If you want to put together good credibility in this space, you need one tiny acorn of truth about you.
And that will unlock your oak tree of bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But you got to have the acorn.
dan friesen
You got to have the acorn.
And then if you want to be like Steve, you've got to be naturally gifted at spinning these yarns and memorizing facts.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or have a rare delusional disorder that allows you to think these things as though they were true and say them confidently.
dan friesen
And then at the same time, Steve wouldn't be able to work without Alex.
Like, I've heard him on other shows.
Like, he was on coast to coast a couple times.
It's not, it's not the same.
Like, you need that, you need that Alex straight man that you can just steamroll.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You need to be able to flatter someone into giving you so much fucking leash that essentially it's gone until it is gone.
dan friesen
I own Amazon.
jordan holmes
And then you are on a leash.
That's what happened.
He was like, okay, we're going to keep.
Look, Dr. Steve can go out of pocket.
We're going to keep him close, but we're going to keep him on a leash.
And then all of a sudden, Alex is wearing that dog collar.
Like, I don't know what happened.
dan friesen
Yep.
That is exactly what happened.
Yeah.
So back to back to the narrative at hand.
Steve took down the Soviet Union.
Accidentally put in Gorbachev.
Or it was intentional then, but it was hindsight, not a great decision.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think ultimately he should still be proud of that decision.
Putin wasn't ready yet, man.
That's the real issue.
dan friesen
It's probably true.
jordan holmes
If it weren't for Gorbachev, if you hadn't have revealed the corruption in the system, you never would have gotten Putin in the first place.
See, it's playing out all over again.
History rhymes, Dan.
dan friesen
Well, interestingly, Steve is the kind of guy who likes to clean up his own messes.
jordan holmes
Well, that's nice.
dan friesen
So, you know, he put in Gorbachev.
It wasn't a good idea.
He fixed that.
unidentified
Okay.
steve pieczenik
Gorbachev was not strong enough to control 11 time zones.
So at that time, the Soviet Union was 14 time zones.
So we picked, I reconstructed that mistake, and I picked a man who worked for Andropo, the head of KGB, named Vladimir Putin.
Putin knows he was picked by me.
He was specifically picked because he was East German intelligence.
He spoke English.
He spoke German.
He spoke Russian.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So apparently Steve handpicked Vladimir Putin to take over for Gorbachev to fix his mistake from after he overthrew the Soviet Union.
And Putin knows that Steve Pieczenik was the one who was behind his rising to power.
Oh boy.
Outrageous.
jordan holmes
Hey, Alex, just so you know, Putin owes it all to me.
It's all me, Alex.
Everything inside your entire career.
That's me.
dan friesen
And I can guide international relations by sending a message to China or India.
Everybody just waits on my beckon call.
jordan holmes
Alex, listen, if you fuck with me, there's nowhere I can't find you.
I can find you in the north.
I can find you in the south.
I can find you around the world.
28 time zones.
That's how many time zones I can find you in.
dan friesen
Steve's never that animated.
jordan holmes
I know, but it'd be more fun.
My character, I think, is a little bit of a nice addition.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess.
I mean, I feel like Steve's.
But Steve's menace is far more dry.
You know, like when there was the hurricane and he was scolding Alex about his manners, it was more terrifying that he didn't yell at him.
He was just like, well, you know, my neighbor's house is underwater right now.
You're being a dick to me.
That's scary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
He does have that cool, level-headed malevolence about him.
That's a big feature.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So one of the clips that we found early on in our time doing the show was something that kind of shocked us, I believe.
And it was the clip where Alex talks about going on RT and he gets debriefed by Russian intelligence.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that was a bizarre clip, and it's not something that we've heard a ton more from Alex about.
jordan holmes
We're going to have to find those Steve Pachinic clips from 18 years ago.
dan friesen
So when Alex talked about that clip, or when he talked about that experience the first time we heard it, it was a story of the Russians being like, you know so much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
You're brilliant.
You know, all this was all about Alex.
jordan holmes
He's too brilliant.
dan friesen
The story's a little different now.
Alex tells it again.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Kind of a different focus.
jordan holmes
Odd.
alex jones
The last time I was on Russian TV, this is probably about 10 years ago, eight, nine years ago, they go, listen, we got this group wants to talk to you.
It's this Russian national TV.
We want you on.
So I'm sitting there on Skype out of my office, and it's this big boardroom, and there's all these guys with beards.
This is obviously not TV.
And it's like all the big brain bugs.
They're intelligence agents.
They're all looking at me and they go, tell us about Pachinik.
How do you know Pachinik?
What do you know about Pachinik?
What do you think of Putin and Pachinik?
And they were dead.
I remember like, I'm not an intelligence operative.
I'm a talk show host.
But definitely they had been sent by Putin to ask about you.
They kept like, and I just said, I don't know anything about Pachinik.
He's an author.
I've had him on.
He used to work for U.S. intelligence agencies, but that's a true story because I'm like, it's a boardroom of like 15 dudes.
And like, these are all the Russians you see on TV.
These are like the brain bugs, you know, like the like they're just like totally like from starship troopers.
That actually happened.
dan friesen
Yeah, that actually happened.
jordan holmes
That 100% actually happened.
dan friesen
Yeah, so now the story is thrilling him about Pieczenik.
jordan holmes
Just because I changed the story multiple times doesn't mean it didn't totally happen.
dan friesen
Well, and it's certainly like what would happen if Pachenek is single-handedly responsible for USSR Russian history over the last decades.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, it does seem like if he was the one who both overthrew the Soviet Union, installed multiple prime ministers, and so on and so forth.
I don't even think that the RT guys, unless it was a splinter group.
dan friesen
It would have to be.
jordan holmes
It would have to be.
That's the only reason they would be asking about Steve, right?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It wouldn't be because Steve would get the phone call if it was from be like, hey, yeah, exactly.
It would be too easy.
So now we've got a revolutionary group within the Soviet Union or within the remnants of the Soviet Union coming back to find out dirt on Steve so they can take him out because he's too powerful.
dan friesen
Or it didn't happen.
jordan holmes
That would also be likely.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Or Alex got interviewed on Russian TV and he was asked a question that sounded weird and it became Spycraft.
jordan holmes
Or he went on a show that did a pre-interview with you seem to talk to Steve Pieczenik a lot.
dan friesen
He's crazy, right?
jordan holmes
With the writer's room.
dan friesen
So Steve, his big thing is that Biden's going to be gone soon.
Although the way he talks about it is a little bit off-putting.
steve pieczenik
Biden will no longer be president.
Blinken will not be Secretary of State.
You will not have all these American Jewish guys who never served our country, 25 of them, remain in power.
At the same time, Trump will have to have a whole new backup system, not with the people he had.
Jared Kushner has to go.
jordan holmes
Why?
steve pieczenik
Debank Trump has to go.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems real strange.
I mean, not strange at all, but.
jordan holmes
No, that's vicious anti-Semitism.
dan friesen
He seems very strongly focused on defining people by their religion or heritage.
It's not good.
jordan holmes
There are very easy visual ways to disqualify people as humans in Steve Pieczenik's world.
Yeah.
Yikes.
Not good.
dan friesen
Nope.
So Alex is like, Steve, our interview is about to come to an end.
But I got to ask you.
You're saying that Biden's going to go down?
Give me a time frame.
Give me a time frame, Steve.
jordan holmes
Make me another bet.
alex jones
So in closing, you got to come back again soon.
StevePachenek.com, find all your interesting work there.
In closing, though, what is the timeframe on Biden?
steve pieczenik
I will not give you a time frame because the last time frame was not accurate.
So let us just say, in time, with patience, you will see this evolution that we're talking about.
alex jones
Oh, I told you, they know that evolution's there.
That's why they're going to come after everybody.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right, Alex.
Convince yourself that this guy isn't fucking with you.
jordan holmes
So I admit I got the math wrong.
The end of the world is not on December 21st, 2021.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's going to be on December 21st.
unidentified
Doesn't sound anything like 2020, 21, 21, 21.
jordan holmes
So it'll be there.
dan friesen
This is so awesome and so frustrating and so funny.
I can't imagine how little dignity one must have to allow Steve back on the show.
jordan holmes
It's sad.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing to a level that I would have thought Alex would be above.
He has such an ego to him.
Yeah.
I would have thought for sure he'd be like, Steve fucked me.
That was like around the election, that was unacceptable.
There is no way if I let him back on the show, it's going to look so bad.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Doesn't care.
Steve's back.
Steve's back, and Alex is making excuses for why maybe Steve's actually right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I heard it in his voice.
I heard that there was a certain despondence in his voice that I felt like was definitely there.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
A little bit of disappointment, maybe.
A little bit of like just a small smidge of what have I become.
I feel, I felt a small, like when he was like, Yeah, that's what they're talking about.
I feel a small smidge.
dan friesen
These are human emotions you're describing, and I'm not sure they relate to this artificial world of bullshit.
jordan holmes
You are so right.
You're so right.
I'm trying to be a human.
dan friesen
I even think strategically from the world of bullshit, this is a bad decision.
Like, because all you're going to do is anybody who liked Alex and thought he was onto something is going to look at him as somebody who was kowtowed to this guy who was wrong.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And definitively wrong and very angrily wrong.
jordan holmes
Made a bet about it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The Pope's been arrested.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What about the guy we see walking around?
You don't see anybody walking around.
jordan holmes
Ah, come on.
dan friesen
It's great.
So that's just going to hurt Alex's image in the audience's eyes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The best you're going to do is you're going to attract Steve's fans to you.
They don't care.
Steve sells supplements too.
It's not like you're going to get his business.
jordan holmes
He's going to be fine.
unidentified
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is sad.
jordan holmes
And for somebody whose self-image is so fucking macho to really go into this interview and just take a little kiss on the chin, a little pat on the head, and I'll see you next time is brutal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's brutal.
dan friesen
Although, flip side, I'm happy because I am too.
jordan holmes
I like seeing Alex humiliated.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's enjoyable.
And there's a Steve-shaped hole on the show.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Not anymore.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Guy is just like, he comes up with the baddiest shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Now there's a fucking big head cutout of Steve directly behind Alex that you look up at every time you see Steve's face and his little tendrils.
dan friesen
Yeah, his presence is back on the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
We appreciate it.
And hopefully this will reinvigorate things.
It'll make me more interested in seeing where the fun thriller novel that Steve's writing goes.
jordan holmes
What's the next chapter?
How do you escalate it from I am the reason Putin owns Russia?
dan friesen
I know.
jordan holmes
How?
dan friesen
Space politics.
jordan holmes
See, now we're getting an interesting territory.
Yeah, eventually he's going to have to escalate it to off-world.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
Imagine disclosure happens, right?
Imagine the government is like, yeah, we've been in contact with aliens.
Steve's going to have to up his game.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
He knows all these aliens.
jordan holmes
He's the one who negotiated the original treaties with the aliens.
dan friesen
As soon as, oh, God.
jordan holmes
Why did Aldo Morrow have to go down?
Aliens.
dan friesen
I would love it.
Oh, God.
I want disclosure to happen now just because of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's got to happen.
Come on, government.
We need Steve's work here.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
All right.
So yours is secondary.
Your bullshit about hiding secrets secondary to what bullshit Steve's going to make up.
dan friesen
Yeah, you are a roadblock in terms of our sort of interesting improvisational storytelling that we need Steve to engage with.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Come on, government.
Yes, Anda's here.
dan friesen
So that was the emergency report.
I don't think watching it, I got convinced that there is an emergency or that January 6th is a false flag.
I was convinced of things I already knew.
One, Alex is a spineless worm.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, agreed.
Agreed.
dan friesen
Steve is an anti-Semitic lunatic.
Yep.
Nick Fuentes is a racist asshole.
Whoa.
And Alex has nothing else to do on Saturday except come in and maybe try and sell a few pills.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem like maybe he didn't have the kids that weekend.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Got to move a little product.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yes, we are also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at Knowledge Underfight and I GoToTabed Jordan.
dan friesen
Also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook Talent Show.
I choose Ray.
And if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundes.
I installed.
Damn it.
I can't remember what the name of the king from Skyrim was.
I put that guy in power.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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