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June 18, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#567: June 13, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on a recent episode of The Alex Jones Show to see what's up.  In this installment, Alex declares a recent death an obvious professional execution, signs onto "magnet theory," and throws around a lot of stray bigotry.

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alex jones
19:02
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dan friesen
29:58
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jordan holmes
17:33
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steve quayle
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding us.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around to worship the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
What's your bright spot today?
Unprecedented, Jordan.
My bright spot is the same thing it was last episode.
The tick.
I finished it.
jordan holmes
Oh, you finished it?
The whole thing?
Did you start back in the cartoon again?
dan friesen
No, I watched all of the Amazon original series because I just couldn't stop.
It was just too enjoyable and too fun.
Everybody is just great in it.
All the characters are great.
John Hodgman in the second season.
Fantastic.
Ah, it's just great.
It should have been a crime.
jordan holmes
That was such a fun surprise when Hodgman showed up and you're like, what are you doing?
What are you doing here, John Hodgman?
dan friesen
And it's John Hodgman, so you're like, well, he's going to be a small role or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I know that there's a lot of other things we need to complain about Amazon and Bezos about.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
Obviously.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
This doesn't rank really high in terms of other complaints like, you know, unionization squashing.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
There's a lot of problems with Amazon.
jordan holmes
It's in the top 50. Maybe.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not having a third season of The Tick is right up there.
Just barely broke the top 50. Maybe 48. Could be 49. It's like how Alex complains about the robots at the grocery store.
He's like, and then I have to bag our own groceries.
No, it's not my main complaint.
unidentified
That's how I feel about the canceling of The Tick.
jordan holmes
It's the bag of your own groceries of media consumption.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Just a delight.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Anyway, what about you?
jordan holmes
It's fantastic.
I'm going to announce this now.
I'm very excited to make an announcement.
Dan, I will be making a return to stand-up post-COVID.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
That's true.
I was booked for my first stand-up gig.
dan friesen
You had some offers during the time that COVID was really...
Sort of iffy, you know, like pre-vaccination coming around.
jordan holmes
I didn't want to do it.
Yeah, I couldn't put people in that situation.
dan friesen
I thought that was a really responsible choice on your part.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Now it is in October, and it was booked by friend of the show, Matt Drufke.
So apparently there are a lot of people with a higher Q rating than to get through before my booking.
But I'm excited to announce that here.
dan friesen
I feel like there was some open questions about whether or not you even were going to continue pursuing.
That might have led to less people being interested in requesting.
jordan holmes
Totally.
No, I had basically stopped before the pandemic.
But now that the pandemic's over, I can't not see if I want to give it another...
Maybe give it a shot.
Who knows?
dan friesen
See if you still connect with that kind of expression.
jordan holmes
See if I still get the feeling.
dan friesen
It's always fun to do one of the shows that Druffy books, too.
unidentified
Oh, always.
dan friesen
Although, you probably have to go to the Burbs, then, right?
jordan holmes
I will probably have to go to the Burbs, yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I'll come with you.
jordan holmes
Back where I started.
dan friesen
I'll make this announcement here.
I will be there as well.
Not performing, but I will be there.
jordan holmes
That'll be exciting.
dan friesen
Yeah, it'll be nice to see Druffles.
jordan holmes
It'd be nice to take over the entire show and have just all wonks and then the rest of the comics are like, I don't understand what's happening right now.
None of these people know.
dan friesen
Let's not take over anything.
Jordan, today we have a present day episode of the Alex Jones Show to discuss.
I am trying to shoot for something a little bit different.
I'm trying to take an analytical perspective of even myself and how I engage with...
Okay.
covering.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And I think that one of the main problems that I have with the present day is sometimes I try to bite off more than I can chew.
Okay.
unidentified
And by that, I mean covering more than one day at a time.
dan friesen
I think that's really hard in the present day because Alex's mood is never the same.
No.
unidentified
Two days in a row.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
If you expect him to cover one piece of news that he was really big on on Monday, he probably is going to forget about it by Tuesday.
dan friesen
We're all going to be dead on Tuesday.
Wednesday, we're winning.
It's just incoherent to the point where it's painful for me to try and make it palatable to an audience and it's frustrating to me to try and talk to you about it.
Well, why is he in a better mood?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
No reason.
unidentified
I don't fucking know.
jordan holmes
No reason.
Could be anything.
He stubbed his toe.
Yeah, it could be anything.
It's like he used to do a serialized show and now he's doing a monster of the day kind of feeling, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, everything's a bottle episode and it's fucking weird.
And so I think that maybe a better approach to it would be to just look at a day at a time.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so today we're looking at June 13th, 2020 on Blackjack.
unidentified
Blackjack!
jordan holmes
Oh, that time I almost didn't say err.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So that was nice.
dan friesen
I didn't trust you to do your bit.
And so I sped into the blackjack because I knew you were trying to lull me into a false sense of security.
And that shit happened.
jordan holmes
There is a metagame currently going on between us.
dan friesen
So Alex is on one on June 13th, as the kids say.
jordan holmes
Yes, okay.
He's on one.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's wiling out.
He is on fleek.
jordan holmes
I disagree with your use of fleek, but we shall see.
dan friesen
I'm still not 100% sure what it means.
jordan holmes
That's kind of my issue.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And we'll get down to business on this, but before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's great.
dan friesen
So, first, Reverend Dr. Robert E.O. Speedwagon, thank you so much for now, PolicyWalk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
I just started watching JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, so there's a character called Robert EO Speedwagon.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so maybe that's a reference to that.
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Next, Jim, no relation to a certain World War II person, Gabbles.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Thanks, Jim.
jordan holmes
Thank you for surviving so long with that name.
dan friesen
Next, Chell.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Joe!
dan friesen
Next, Randy C. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Randy C. Thank you.
dan friesen
And they've got a couple of technocrats in the mix.
First, Mr. and Mrs. Makeshift Hamster.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Kickfister Scream.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you all.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the all of you.
dan friesen
Now, Jordan, it's time to get deep.
alex jones
Giving someone life is giving someone death.
You could say that life is death.
dan friesen
You could.
So today, I'd like to say...
jordan holmes
I never don't silently nod with that.
Just like, yeah, man, that is deep.
dan friesen
That is deep.
jordan holmes
That's real.
dan friesen
So today, I'd like to say happy birthday and congratulations on the graduation to Madison F. Okay.
Also, I should say that this happened in May.
jordan holmes
Well, congratulations and happy birthday to you.
dan friesen
I may have missed a message.
jordan holmes
No.
No, I think they just sent it now.
I think they just sent it now.
I think they were like, oops, we forgot to give him that birthday shout-out.
Let's get on it.
Happy belated birthday.
dan friesen
And congratulations on the graduation.
jordan holmes
And happy congratulations, belated congratulations.
dan friesen
If life, if giving life is giving death, is giving graduation just signing up for school?
unidentified
Look.
jordan holmes
Look, I'm gonna leave you hanging on that one.
dan friesen
It's fair.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
It's just fair.
dan friesen
So one other thing was Erica sent a message and wanted a special drop played.
And it's something we haven't heard in a while, and I thought, why not?
I think the people are itching for this.
So here, this is going out to you, Erica.
alex jones
You know, they got Baby Shark.
unidentified
They got Mama Shark.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
An oldie but a goodie.
jordan holmes
Always good to hear some Daddy Shark.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So, we're going to be talking about June 13th, but here is an Out of Context Drop from today's show.
alex jones
You know, I would never say if I got killed, start a civil war.
jordan holmes
Good.
Well, one...
You would already be dead, so you wouldn't have the opportunity to say that.
dan friesen
No, no, you're saying beforehand.
Oh, okay.
Like, my death is a dead man switch for a civil war.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I wouldn't say that.
jordan holmes
I know, but I think that's got some Jane Austen, the meaning is the opposite of the meaning kind of thing to it.
dan friesen
I would never say, nuke the planet when I die.
jordan holmes
Why would you need to say, I would never say that?
The only reason you would need to say that is if you want that to be true.
dan friesen
Yeah, weird.
I feel like almost nobody would say that.
jordan holmes
Nobody should.
Say that.
Except for maybe Mandela.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex has got a piece of news here on the 13th.
This is Sunday's show.
On the 13th, you've gotten some news that this gentleman by the name of Christopher Sine had passed away.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He was a reporter, and he was the person who is credited with breaking the story of former President Bill Clinton meeting with Loretta Lynch on the Tarmac meeting.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And, of course...
That means this was an executioner.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
alex jones
What is the next thing to come in a season like this?
What is the next move always?
And the move they've been carrying out all over the world?
Well, it's this right here.
That's what it is.
45-year-old Christopher Sine.
The award-winning, Emmy award-winning.
TV anchorman and reporter who just had his book published and is doing great and was super happy.
Well, he got executed inside of his house yesterday.
And his body wasn't even cold.
The blood wasn't even coagulated before they said it was a suicide.
Just like Breitbart.
Hell, they'd say Kennedy was a suicide.
Do you know John F. Kennedy committed suicide?
Do you know that?
dan friesen
Breitbart, no one said that he committed suicide.
That was a heart attack.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they said he did a lot of coke.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The situation with this is the reporting on it is that it's being treated as a suspected suicide.
jordan holmes
Suicide, right.
dan friesen
Not that the people are reporting that it definitely is.
There aren't signs of foul play.
There aren't the signs that generally would lead investigators to initially give a...
This looks like a murder.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the doors were locked from the inside, like everything.
dan friesen
I don't know all of the specifics, because a lot of it I can't find all the details, but this is the same thing that Alex does all the time.
It's like, they're saying that it's suicide in order to make sure that there's a cover-up, as opposed to, there's reporting that preliminary indications appear to be that this was a case of suicide.
jordan holmes
No, that's how you know it's a cover-up, because they're reporting that it's not a cover-up.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
See?
dan friesen
Makes sense.
jordan holmes
It makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, so one of the things to keep a real sharp focus on here is how definitive Alex is.
He's reporting this as an execution in the home.
jordan holmes
It's kind of funny how that just flies over me now, just that a man can go on his show and just be like...
That guy was executed with no evidence or thought or anything like that.
And I'm like, well, of course he's just going to claim that.
dan friesen
He's decrying that the media is definitively saying that it's suicide when, in fact, the articles that I could find about this were saying that it's being handled, the investigation is a presumed suicide.
Right, right, right.
Until other information comes along.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is doing the exact same thing, just the opposite.
He's doing what he's claiming the media is doing, and that is jumping to the conclusion of, nah, globalist execution for sure.
jordan holmes
Well, because they do it, it's okay for him to do it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's almost as if he forgets that there are real people involved in this story.
jordan holmes
I'm almost positive he doesn't care.
dan friesen
So he also is treating this like a real departure from the way things were, let's say, yesterday.
alex jones
And he said, I'll never commit suicide.
And he said, I'm getting massive death threats, my family, my children is, from the Clintons.
Because, remember, he exposed Loretta Lynch, the head of the Justice Department and the FBI, all having a corrupt meeting on the tarmac and lying about it all.
And that basically finally brought down the Clintons partially.
Well, they've been waiting for a green light time to go offensive.
I talked about canaries in the coal mine.
His execution is a message to everybody.
And I would expect to see a lot of these killings now.
He was definitely murdered, in my view.
dan friesen
So, this is pretty definite, the way he's reporting this.
But also, there's a number of things that he doesn't ever substantiate in any way on the show, which to me is a problem.
The first is he doesn't show or give any evidence of him saying, I will never kill myself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would need that.
dan friesen
That is just something that he says about every...
Case that he tries to make muddy.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And then the other thing is he's taking things completely out of context.
There is an interview that he did on Fox News, this Christopher Sine, where he was saying that when he did this reporting, he was getting threats.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But he does not say that they are from the Clintons.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a hundred different explanations for where these threats could have come from.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Now, I mean, I guess if you want to jump to a conclusion that, like...
Bill got on the phone.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
Better watch your mouth.
I guess you could do that.
jordan holmes
You would be the first person I've had killed.
dan friesen
I guess if Alex wants to just make that conclusion jump and take...
The only evidence that he plays or provides at all is this Fox News interview.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
If he wants to go from that and say that this is proof that the Clintons were threatening him, I guess he can, but he can't prove that.
jordan holmes
When was the Fox News interview?
dan friesen
It was within the last few years.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It wasn't recent.
jordan holmes
Okay, so the interview where he's getting threats is from a few years ago.
dan friesen
But also he's saying that it was when the reporting happened.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that was 2016.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So it's five years ago.
jordan holmes
So I'm fairly certain people have let it go.
dan friesen
No, they just let you forget about it.
jordan holmes
No, I'm gonna go with let it go.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Clinton and Hillary didn't become president!
dan friesen
That's true, because she was partially destroyed by this report.
jordan holmes
Finally partially taken down.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex jumps around a little bit.
This is the main story he's going to cover, but he also does just throw a few darts around.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Here's one of them.
alex jones
And yeah, now mainline doctors from Italy to Mexico to the United States are confirming that people are seriously magnetic in some cases when they've had the shot.
And then we find the literature that it's designed to grow magnetic prions in the body.
dan friesen
So yeah, apparently Alex is on the magnet tip.
jordan holmes
Magnetic prions, huh?
In the body.
From what?
dan friesen
Uh...
unidentified
Iron in the blood.
jordan holmes
I would really like to know.
Okay, so they grow them inside the body.
Do they inject you first?
And then they, like...
Is it like an embryo that grows with inside you and then you give birth to a magnet baby?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know because Alex doesn't explain and I don't really care.
That's fair.
I looked into this a little bit.
It's just like...
Viral videos of people pretending that they're magnetic.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
So Alex is on that.
He's into it.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
I wanted him to talk more about this, but he doesn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just a throwaway thing.
Everyone's turned into magnets.
jordan holmes
I want a magnet, baby.
I need more information on that.
I always like how small his geography is.
Like, this is the biggest world in the world.
From Italy to Mexico.
The biggest amount of...
Like, okay, man.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
So, the Clintons, they're killed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is the beginning of it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because they were waiting for the green light or something to go ahead and take out people who know their dirt.
alex jones
The Clintons, I've noticed, do this in waves.
People that control the Clintons do.
They'll kill a bunch of people, a couple hundred here, a couple hundred there, and then they'll wait a while.
But when they start killing, you'll see the type of group it is.
People that know about Arkansas savings and loan.
People that know about their corruption and, you know, Africa scams and deals.
But this is, I believe, the first salvo, and I've been predicting this is coming.
dan friesen
What about Larry Nichols?
jordan holmes
We don't talk about him.
That's past.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't bring up Larry Nichols at all here.
Like, he passed away within the last year.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I swear, I think we're the only people who noticed.
I do kind of feel sad about that.
We talked about it when he died, but it is really a bummer that Alex doesn't even bring up...
If you're doing Clinton conspiracies, you gotta bring up the Larry Nichols.
dan friesen
You gotta say, isn't it convenient that now when they start back up their killings, Larry Nichols is no longer with us.
jordan holmes
In waves.
dan friesen
Silenced.
Silenced because he's the Oracle.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Why would they kill in waves?
Doesn't that make less sense?
dan friesen
No, you gotta kill in a wave and then let the tide go out.
Let tension ebb and then come back.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I feel like a bunch of connected killings in a short period of time and then a long series of length of quiet time would more suggest that it was, you know, assassination instead of, like, an isolated event.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Well, it's a good thing that you're not on their trail.
jordan holmes
I did watch Mindhunter.
I think I've got it.
dan friesen
So we've got another stray dart here off the assassination narrative.
alex jones
Very bad developments on that front.
A federal judge has ruled that employers can order you to take a vaccine, any experimental thing they want, to have the job.
Hell, I guess they can mandate you got to inject cyanide.
And by free will, you can kill yourself.
And that's really the point they're getting to.
jordan holmes
Wait, how would you get a job then?
alex jones
Lawsuit filed by Houston Hospital employees who refused COVID-19 vaccine.
dan friesen
According to Alex's politics, he should not be opposed to employers having the right to make these sorts of demands of employees.
He swings libertarian, and based on that belief set, he should think that the employer has the right to make whatever requirements they want, and the employee should have the right to accept them as a condition of employment or find a job elsewhere.
If having a vaccine requirement is something that hurts a business's ability to attract potential employees, The free market will sort that out, according to libertarian ideology.
jordan holmes
Ah, come on.
It should be unfair for everybody else.
Libertarianism is about fairness for me, and fuck all those people.
dan friesen
So apparently 117 employees out of the 26,000 in the Houston Methodist hospital system refused to get vaccinated and were suspended from their positions.
So they sued, and a judge recently dismissed their case.
One of the reasons that their case can't possibly win in court is because they're in Texas, and in that state, they have very weak Oh my god!
jordan holmes
Oh, has somebody been hoisted upon their own fucking petard?
dan friesen
In the judge's decision, they spell this out.
Quote, Texas law only protects employees from being terminated for refusing to commit an act carrying criminal penalties to the worker.
Based on that standard, refusing to get a vaccine can't possibly meet the criteria needed to satisfy that charge.
But interestingly...
Alex's example of injecting yourself with cyanide would fit that standard for wrongful termination because that would be a criminal act.
jordan holmes
That would be the only example that fits that, essentially.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So, anyway, this is...
jordan holmes
Wow, Texas is just really fucking crazy, huh?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, they have sort of these weak protections in place, and employers can make these sorts of conditions of employment, and Alex is thrilled with that until he's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it should be unfair for everybody but me.
dan friesen
This fits my policies until, oh no!
jordan holmes
Oh, why is this hurting me?
alex jones
And that is the headline for today's show.
Sunday emergency broadcast, and I'd say we're in quite the emergency.
Reporter who exposed Clinton control of FBI executed inside his home.
Very, very professionally.
dan friesen
The problem here is that Alex can't prove any of this, and it feeds into a very dangerous cycle that we've seen play out over and over again in conspiracy culture.
By Alex reporting this as a definitive execution, it can feel like he's just creating a thriller plot around a tragic death, but ultimately there's a lot more going on.
Because Alex is so sure that this was a professional execution, he's giving the audience permission to be just as certain, and this leads to problems where they encounter people who don't share their certainty.
People like victims' family members, or government officials, or media figures who don't comport with a conspiracy version of this death are now suspect as being participants or engaged in the cover-up.
These people often get hurt or harassed and hurt badly sometimes in these conspiracy campaigns, and Alex doesn't give a shit about them or their well-being.
There's nothing wrong with holding some skepticism or asking questions about events that happen.
The appropriate thing to do then, however, is to explore the questions privately by reading or interviewing people or doing some other kind of investigative technique and trying to find some actual information.
This is not what Alex does.
He doesn't ask questions.
He makes decisions about how to write other people's stories so they fit the narrative that he can make a profit off of, and it's to the detriment of the people who are involved.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The worst part is just, like, putting that professional in there.
That's...
Okay, so we do look into it.
We find out that it's absolutely a suicide.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, that's how you know it was a professional.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Because only a professional would make it so clean.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so there's just no escape.
dan friesen
The absence of evidence is evidence of the conclusion that Alex has already reached.
Yeah, you can't...
jordan holmes
And overwhelming evidence is even more evidence that the conspiracy is true.
There has to be just a little bit of evidence in that sweet spot, I guess.
dan friesen
Yeah, and this is bad.
I mean, obviously, I think anyone listening to our show can understand why this is bad.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But it's bad even more than we've already discussed.
And that's because Alex is presenting this as like a real escalation in things from the globalists.
They're assassinating reporters in order to cover up their dirty business.
unidentified
In waves.
dan friesen
And there's going to be a lot more.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
And this is a crossing of the Rubicon.
alex jones
To go to that escalation, to start really killing people.
Passes a whole other Rubicon.
And it's because the globalists are so incredibly desperate.
But if you look at their entire posture and everything they're doing and everything they've been carrying out, I mean, they're willing to kill hundreds of millions of people with tainted vaccines.
Scar billions.
They're willing to do anything.
dan friesen
I just don't understand how anybody could hear this show.
And not think he's telling you to kill people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the only...
dan friesen
Like, they've gone offensive.
They're assassinating the people who are putting their business in the streets and reporting the truth, quote-unquote, about things.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So, what...
Like, how does...
I don't understand how he can present, like, don't do anything violent.
jordan holmes
I mean, you literally cannot use the metaphor of crossing the Rubicon because the point of the metaphor of crossing the Rubicon is that once this happens, it cannot be unhappening.
You know?
Like, that is the end.
The line.
dan friesen
Yeah, the language that he's using and the way he's presenting the story is very specifically about, like, the game has changed and now the rules of engagement are different.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I don't understand how he...
Can pretend that that's not what he's doing.
jordan holmes
I don't understand how this could be the inciting incident if we're already confirmed that the people who have the vaccine are going to be killed or are already dead or whatever it is.
This seems like a de-escalation, if anything.
Oh, thank God they're only killing individual people instead of murdering the entire country.
dan friesen
The stakes are weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're not quite as in order as The Matrix Reloaded.
jordan holmes
That crossing the Rubicon is a single journalist and not the hundreds of thousands of people or millions of people who have been vaccinated.
dan friesen
Well, it's the way that Alex needs to tell the story.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
That's true.
That's just passive murder.
This is active.
This is when the Cold War goes hot.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
So this clip is four minutes long.
And I think it's a ride.
It's a journey.
It starts with Alex introing the clip of Sign, Christopher Sign, talking on Fox News.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That clip does not get played.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So this will be a ride.
dan friesen
Instead, Alex rambles about how big of a threat he's under.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He makes this about himself.
Because, of course, he does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's just par.
That's par for the course.
dan friesen
And then it ends in a way that will take your breath away.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Here he is from the grave talking about all the death threats.
And everybody said, boy, this guy's got courage.
Because the Clintons really come after you.
Yeah, believe me.
The Clintons had all these big lawsuits filed against us by DNC party groups.
And a lot of stuff that I agreed to be off record, so I'm not going to say anymore, but just believe me.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
I know some other big national talk show hosts that did take the threats and basically stopped.
And I know some big networks did the same thing.
And I understand when somebody starts threatening to kill you.
As you follow it around, most folks back off from that.
For me, it's not about being macho or a pissing contest.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
For me, it's just about, I gotta do what God says.
And I feel good when I'm fighting evil, and I feel close to God, and I feel strong.
dan friesen
Yeah, I want to pause it right there.
I think that is macho in his conception.
I think that is the same.
Endorphin rush or whatever that someone would get from posturing as a macho person.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just put in the context and language of godliness or whatever.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's an incredibly fucked up thought to think the only time that I am close to God is when I am enacting violence.
That's not good.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
And just to even entertain selling out makes me feel alone and weak and pathetic.
I'm just addicted to fight these people and fighting evil.
So if they kill me, it's a great honor to die in the service of humanity, and I'm just a very blessed person.
It's not going to be a failure, folks.
You have to realize that's going to be a real success if they're reckless enough to kill me.
Instead, they're trying to put me in prison.
They got the FBI with a bunch of fake cases they're cooking up, and that's fine.
I understand.
They sold out to evil.
They've lost their soul.
Sorry.
That's not me, bro.
unidentified
Bro.
alex jones
Any of the options, you know.
Bankrupting with fake lawsuits, fine, whatever, I don't care.
I'm going to keep getting the word out one way or another.
jordan holmes
Even after I'm dead, bro.
alex jones
Well, that sucks, but whatever.
Or kill me.
That's almost the easier route right there.
But here's how it works.
I'm not backing down.
But I will not have them kill me and then say that I killed myself.
So I was thinking...
How they operate and what they've done to really good men to demonize them.
And you know what it is.
They come when you're there with your wife and kids.
So, I'm just going to be completely honest about this.
I'm a tough guy at certain levels, but I have to really think about how everything operates and the way things really are.
And so, I'm going to stay in this fight.
But I do need 24-hour-a-day security for my children and my family.
Because I've got it most of the time, but I need to have real security.
I mean, guys on the roof.
All the time.
And we need to start reading profile stuff on the enemy and doing public reports on that as well.
Because, you know, here's the deal.
I'm a canary in the coal mine.
This guy was a big one.
dan friesen
Just a reminder, two and a half minutes ago, Alex was introducing a clip of this guy talking on Fox News.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, from the grave.
Anyways, before I get to that, I'm gonna need to build a moat around my house.
I'm gonna have to have snipers on the roofs.
I'm gonna have chain-link fences and razor wire.
I'm gonna do the whole thing.
dan friesen
I'm gonna need to find more people who used to work for Blackwater.
jordan holmes
Because of imaginary enemies.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
alex jones
So if we start seeing more deaths the next few days, the next few weeks, it's a message to threaten everybody to shut up.
Or there might be 20 deaths by tomorrow.
Ron Paul's dead.
Alex Jones is dead.
Tucker Carlson, if the car bomb goes off, I mean, there's a very good chance they're going to turn their little armies loose on us.
And then to demonize good men, they'll kill Tucker Carlson, his wife, probably wait until his kids are in college or overvisiting or something.
And that's how they do it.
So I'm calling Tucker today at the show.
I've been telling him, Tucker, you need to get extra security.
I'm going to leave it at that, and I'm going to call everybody I know, and I'm calling this out on air right now.
We have to go into war mode now, ladies and gentlemen, as these are criminal terrorists that carried out Oklahoma City.
They burn down Waco with all those tanks and kill those little kids.
They like killing people.
They're child molesters.
Hillary's a child molester.
Bill Clinton's a child molester.
Well, guess what?
I'm not going to be a soft target for these people, and I'm not going to let them tie me up while they blow my wife and children's heads off in front of me.
Sure.
I'm going to tell the listeners right now, and I know you're going to come through on this.
I don't have the budget for the real security I need.
I'm going to leave it at that.
I've got guns.
We've got people around a lot of the time.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
alex jones
I need a serious security detail all the time for my family.
Because, again, they won't target them.
jordan holmes
Are you selling product?
alex jones
I don't know how they operate.
Let them do that.
And then, of course, if they do start doing that, if they kill me, ladies and gentlemen, you know what to do.
You know who did it.
unidentified
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dan friesen
Gotta be thrilled to have your ad playing right after that, George Norrie.
jordan holmes
What the fuck just happened to me?
dan friesen
I told you it was a ride.
jordan holmes
What just fucking happened to me?
dan friesen
It was a ride.
jordan holmes
Is he selling product based on...
Getting people to pay for security for him?
dan friesen
For his family, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
Alright.
dan friesen
Basically, he's saying that if you don't buy more of his pills, his family will be murdered in front of him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem like that is his point.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just thought it was pretty shocking that it ran into money at the end.
I mean, I shouldn't be shocked.
No, that's...
But the way that was going, it was so intense and like...
So off track from where that clip started and what he was ostensibly trying to do.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Which was cover this story.
And he started talking about himself, like, I don't want him to kill my family.
I need more security.
It just seems like, okay, here's a paranoid spiral.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, whatever.
This doesn't go well.
I get it.
I think that's in the Alex Jones wheelhouse.
But then when it turned into, like, using that paranoid spiral.
To be like, I need more money for this security detail.
That's when I was like, oh, this is craft.
jordan holmes
That is...
dan friesen
He saw that they were coming up on the commercial.
He knew that he was about to go to break.
And he's like, oh my god.
Ad.
Perfect.
I can't afford security.
I need you all to pay for my security.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
Amazing.
jordan holmes
Absolutely brutal.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
I don't...
I don't know what the rest of the world would look like if one day I woke up and the headline was, Tucker Carlson dies in car bomb.
The IRA is back?
What are we doing?
The IRA living in New York?
dan friesen
I think if selected people like Ron and Rand Paul and Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson all died in a short period of time, I think...
Even I, as somebody who believes in this space as being full of misinformation and bullshit, I'd be like, there's a problem.
jordan holmes
Well, fuck.
dan friesen
There is a problem.
jordan holmes
This is an issue.
dan friesen
They're probably still wrong.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
About everything.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
But, you know, hey, maybe there is some kind of a fringe left-wing terrorist group that we have not been aware of or something.
jordan holmes
That would be a shock if we discovered a strange paramilitary leftist organization out there.
dan friesen
I would start having some questions if there was a convenient series of all of these people.
jordan holmes
I would say that is something that needs to be dealt with regardless of political ideology.
dan friesen
Oh, you know what?
Even if it was just...
Tucker Carlson in a car bomb.
I'd be like, holy shit, something's not right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Did he turn on Putin?
What is happening in this world?
dan friesen
So all of this prediction didn't happen.
This wave didn't...
jordan holmes
No, that was the 13th, right?
Okay, we're recording this on the 17th.
That's correct.
Tucker is still technically alive, from what I understand.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So is Ron Paul.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
You just can't kill Ron Paul with a car bomb.
He's too crafty.
He smells it out.
dan friesen
But again, it seems like Larry Nichols would be exactly who Alex would want to throw into the mix on this.
And he doesn't.
Does not bring him up at all.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
They just forgot about him.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, in this next clip, Alex salutes the Christopher sign, and then, of course, makes it about himself.
alex jones
All right, so a real man, somebody's parents and family to be proud of.
A brave die, but one death.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
alex jones
But cowards taste of death a thousand times, not me.
And I'll tell you, again, they are bringing us into that wheelhouse.
You see it in history books, you read about it.
You talk to Grandpa, they'll tell you about it when they were alive.
People go through this.
People start fights and they don't leave you alone.
They attack you and they start killing people.
And at a certain point, you're just like, well, alright.
Let me just roll my sleeves up here.
So, I don't know what to say at this point.
Nobody should be offensively violent against these people.
But everybody should have their eyes peeled and be ready.
Because they've used...
I'll talk about it next hour.
I knew this was coming for a long time, folks, but I just...
They're gonna start the killing of journalists.
Watch.
That's next.
dan friesen
I don't understand what offensively violent even means anymore on his show.
jordan holmes
Keep your eyes peeled for people to attack.
dan friesen
You're saying that we're in war mode.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, these people like to blow up the Waco branch Davidians.
Of course.
jordan holmes
OKC is their fault, not ours.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
I don't understand what these terms even mean and the way he's using them.
Because I have a definition of offensively violent, and I don't think it's the same as the way he's using the term.
jordan holmes
No, it definitely does not seem the same.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Silence talks about karma.
jordan holmes
Oh, he should not.
dan friesen
What goes around comes around, my dude.
jordan holmes
He doesn't want to find out.
dan friesen
There's a large bleep in here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
By the way, you don't just face God after you die.
I'm going to explain this to people.
People call it karma, what goes around comes around.
You don't reap what you sow.
In my life, I never even wanted to do bad stuff, but every time I did, bad stuff happened right after.
I mean, I got a great life, knock on wood, because I really am a pretty good person.
Really?
I treat people like I want to be treated.
And when I don't do that, I'm guilty, okay?
And I try to make it better.
I run around all these other people, man.
They just think that's weak or stupid.
No, what's weak is...
unidentified
And you think you're going to get away with it forever.
alex jones
You're not going to get away with it.
dan friesen
That caught my attention.
Big old bleep there.
jordan holmes
It was a while, too.
dan friesen
So here's what was missing from the broadcast.
alex jones
I treat people like I want to be treated.
And when I don't do that, I'm guilty, okay?
And I try to make it better.
I run around all these other people, man, they just think that's weak or stupid.
No, what's weak is shitting all over people, you fucking pieces of shit, New World Order!
And you think you're gonna get away with it forever, you're not gonna get away with it!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Man, he's still bad at swearing.
dan friesen
He is.
jordan holmes
He's just really bad at using swears.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you know what else, too?
Like, I watched the clip of that in the video.
And there's a look on his face that's like, I did it again.
There is like a look of like...
Whoops!
I don't think he's that good of a performer to be able to give that subtle look of like, ugh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I slipped and screamed obscenity again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's weird.
It's weird.
Very childish.
jordan holmes
Bums me out.
Bums me out.
I feel like people should learn how to swear.
dan friesen
Yeah, for someone like myself who has a potty mouth, I accept that.
Telling me to?
Yeah.
The way Alex swears is a little childish.
It's a little bit...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm not saying we should teach children swears, but I am saying as a child you should learn them.
dan friesen
So Alex needs to get his family more security.
But he also, in this next clip, is talking about them as if they're just like collateral damage.
And by that I mean he literally says that they're collateral damage.
alex jones
And I've already explained this.
I love my family so much that I know there's no future if we don't meet these globalists.
So I've taken out of my mind the opposite of a sociopath.
To where just my family, everything's collateral damage.
Because it's a war.
It's not like I asked for this.
I can't let threats against my family govern me and make me stop what I'm doing.
But I will not leave on the chessboard the chance of them having their victory against me to make me a villain where they kill me and my family and then blame me for it.
So I've got to have people, because I know...
I know how to look at all the angles, folks, and it all just like a computer, like it's working, working, working, working, and the answer comes out.
I always know when my answer's right.
And today, I was already saying I need more security.
I was already calling my security people and saying this needs to be done, and then I saw this story on Infowars, and I went and spent two hours reading all about the angles of it, and it all just went bzzz.
I've got to have people with my family at all times, or any time I'm with them.
dan friesen
That really sounds speedy to me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is really fucking unacceptable, dangerous shit we're tossing around here.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the way he's connecting thoughts and the way...
It's very scattered.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a little worrying.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I assume this is all because of the few articles that were like, Alex was coordinating with Trump for the sixth riot, right?
dan friesen
Maybe.
I mean, he does mention that a little bit.
And I didn't actually pull any clips of it, because it was disconnected from these other...
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
This other story, and he's totally dismissive of it.
He's right to be dismissive of it.
jordan holmes
Totally, but that's the only thing.
dan friesen
These people, this clip resurfaced.
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
dan friesen
Trump said we're going to the Capitol on the stage.
And it's like, yeah, that is true.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't think that it's related.
jordan holmes
Right.
But he's just going so hard with personal shit.
And then the fact that he's...
The moment you go from we need to protect our family to acknowledge that your family's already dead is when you've turned people into a holy army and there's just no...
I mean, that is in some ways crossing the Rubicon, if you will.
When you turn people into a holy army, that's fucked up!
dan friesen
I don't disagree with you, but I also have heard him say stuff like this in the past.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
When things have gotten fairly intense for him, he will...
Talk about, like, I just had to give my family up to God.
jordan holmes
No, totally, totally.
I've heard him do it before.
It just seems like...
dan friesen
It's rare, and because it's rare, it feels worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it definitely...
Well, in our current context, it feels portentous more than it would have in, like, the late 90s, you know?
You didn't get the sense that everybody was kind of itching for a holy war in the late 90s.
You thought they were itching for a...
A battle over fucking Satanism or whatever it is, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has spent, I'd say, all of the show rambling about his own need for security and how this story about this Christopher Sine is really a warning to people like him and, you know, really real narcissistic shit.
jordan holmes
One quick thing.
One quick thought.
One quick thought.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Aren't snipers on the roof more to keep people in than to keep people out?
dan friesen
I'm not sure, but Alex has many times talked about how he has snipers on the roof of Infowars.
jordan holmes
Man, I feel like that's to keep people in.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You shoot people in the back if you're sniping on top of a roof.
dan friesen
You think so?
jordan holmes
That's the way I've always seen it.
dan friesen
Interesting.
Anyway, Alex has not covered really anything, but he has a lot of news.
alex jones
I've got...
All this incredible news to cover tonight.
So much.
I did so much preparation for this show today.
And I haven't gotten to a lot of that just because I've been busy on this.
Because they want a message to reporters.
You do not report on Bill Clinton with the Attorney General on the tarmac.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
You do not report on this thing that will literally never happen again.
dan friesen
And was widely reported.
jordan holmes
Yes.
In every outlet.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
All the New York Times journalists, dead.
Washington Post, dead.
dan friesen
It seems like he's very desperate to excuse him not doing his job.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what it feels like to me.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's hard.
dan friesen
So I was like, okay, well, at least he's getting introspective about it.
He's got more time on the show.
He can get into these stories that he's failed to cover because he got caught up in this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So here's where he goes next.
alex jones
Here's the deal.
They are wimps, so they want domination and conquest and war with us because they...
I mean, I'm not against nerds.
I don't even get into what you call a nerd.
What?
What are we doing?
Computers would be a great person.
But there's a certain type of person that wants to be an alpha, but they're not.
And then they get into being nerdly, and that's like their cover to commit their crimes.
And then anybody that they would call, in modern parlance, a Chad or someone is the enemy.
And we'll show you Chad's, while we'll inject you with poison and sit back and watch you die.
They're crazy little scientists, like Fauci and Gates, and all of them are psychos.
dan friesen
I don't know how I feel about Alex talking about Chad's.
jordan holmes
Sometimes nerds bully me with their brains and I'm supposed to bully them with my brawns.
I don't like it.
dan friesen
I don't know if this is a useful way to spend time on the show.
jordan holmes
I mean, saying that some people have inferiority complexes is something that maybe Alex...
unidentified
What's that?
jordan holmes
Somebody's on the phone?
I think it's the kettle!
It's for you, Mr. Pot!
dan friesen
You know, the problem is that, like, some of these wimps, you know, they'll, like, pretend that they're constantly under attack in order to escalate the things that they're talking about to make themselves more interesting.
These dorks.
jordan holmes
And they'll constantly talk about how they're so tough, even though deep down inside they're not.
They'd be super into Star Wars, but they'd tell you that they weren't super into Star Wars.
That way you wouldn't think they're a nerd.
dan friesen
Right.
So, Alex has another clip that he wants to play.
It's about this guy, Frank Figliozzi.
He's a former FBI agent, guy in the FBI.
jordan holmes
That's a name of an FBI.
dan friesen
Frank Figliozzi.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's an FBI agent if I ever heard one.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so Alex believes that this guy was saying that he wants Congress arrested.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Not quite.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Not quite.
But, Alex...
Also wants Congress arrested.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But he wants them to have trials.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's important.
jordan holmes
That's very nice of him.
dan friesen
That is important.
jordan holmes
Now, they already know the outcome.
alex jones
He's making this outrageous statement.
I mean, if I was up here saying, without trial, let's arrest members of Congress, I would say I should be off the air.
I don't agree with that.
I want a trial for everybody.
Now, do people like Maxine Waters and Dianne Feinstein that have been proven to be on the Chinese payroll and Mitch McConnell, do they deserve to go to prison for what they've done?
Yes.
But I wouldn't want it without a trial because that's something that could happen to my kids or to me.
I'm not stupid.
That's why we have rules, so I'm protected and so are you.
But see, these jerks, they always get rid of the chivalry.
They always get rid of the rules thinking one step ahead, not five steps ahead.
And then they're just in my wheelhouse at that point.
When I say my wheelhouse, people like me, I don't want war.
I don't want death.
I don't want any of it.
But I'm like a pig in slop once it starts.
And there's a lot of people like me who've been like asleep, dormant.
And I really feel sorry for the establishment because I've looked at every possible exit from this and it does not end well for them.
dan friesen
I don't know the difference between this and someone being like, we have cells in every city.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
Totally.
dan friesen
This is basically how a terrorist makes threats.
jordan holmes
This is a YouTube video of a terrorist with a fucking mask on going, we will kill you.
We're everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also, fuck off with your trial bullshit.
How dare you tell me that you...
dan friesen
We insist on show trials.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Now, if the outcome was anything other than the one that I've predetermined to be correct, then the globalists are covering it up.
Yes, of course.
No, no, no.
But the trial is important.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Silly.
jordan holmes
Fuck off.
dan friesen
Also, I love the idea that he's like, Mitch McConnell should go to prison.
Except when he's acting in line with what Trump wants.
jordan holmes
Well, then he's a hero.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Then he's a hero.
dan friesen
Come on.
As long as he's doing that, I will support him staying in office and I will defend him.
But he also deserves to go to prison.
jordan holmes
You know what really shocked me?
They had a Mitch McConnell story out recently.
They had the gall.
To ask Mitch McConnell if he would cede a Supreme Court justice by Biden in 2024.
I'm going to ask you a question, Dan.
Now, do you think McConnell said yes?
dan friesen
I'm the wrong person to ask because I did see this story and I thought it was like...
jordan holmes
What a waste of everyone's time.
dan friesen
This is parody.
jordan holmes
What a waste of everyone's time.
dan friesen
Outrageous.
jordan holmes
Of course he wasn't going to do that in 2024.
We've already seen him not do it once.
dan friesen
But it's a matter of principle.
jordan holmes
No, it isn't!
It never was, duh!
You're all stupid if you believed him then!
dan friesen
So Alex plays this clip of Frank Figliozzi, and I think his interpretation of it is a little bit off.
alex jones
This is such a criminal statement.
Here it is.
unidentified
Look, Chris Wray testified publicly on the Hill that what happened on January 6th is domestic terrorism.
What have we learned from our experience with international terrorism?
In order to address that problem, arresting local operatives is merely a speed bump, not a roadblock.
In order to really tackle terrorism, and this time domestically, you've got to attack and dismantle the command and control element of a terrorist group.
And unfortunately, and I know this is painful.
alex jones
Take it back to the beginning.
I know this is painful.
We've got to attack.
That means kill.
And dismantle.
That means dismember.
Shut down.
The brain trust that's the Republicans that don't want to turn the guns in or have pedophiles teach the kids or open the borders and let all you weird lawyers run everything and sell us out to whoever.
Because, well, I'm a little scumbag lawyer.
I wear a fancy suit.
Bow down to me.
I mean, I'll arrest you.
I'm a lawyer.
I mean, it's just crazy.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's what I would have taken away from this.
Now, I have some problems with what Figliozzi was saying just from a different angle.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think that certainly the way that we have carried out a war on terror around the world is a good model.
For how we would approach domestic terrorism.
I think that's flawed.
jordan holmes
I can't think of anybody I want dealing with domestic terrorism less than everyone who has dealt with every type of terrorism currently.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think the proof of concept has not been good.
I think that there's a lot of dangers when you start trying to apply...
The way that we have as a country behaved vis-a-vis international terrorism, trying to apply that to domestic issues of terrorism.
I think that you run into a lot of issues, and I would hope that we...
jordan holmes
I would argue with Figliozzi on that tack.
dan friesen
And I would also...
I would also say that there is something to be said for the other point that he's making, though.
Disconnected from that point.
And that is that rounding up everybody who got into the Capitol on the 6th isn't necessarily going to cause the kind of change that you would hope to.
Prosecutorially or from a disruption of what caused this.
That's not the approach that you want to take.
There's a broader spectrum of...
things that you would want to do.
Yeah.
unidentified
I do agree with that.
dan friesen
I just don't agree with his...
His comparison between international terrorism and domestic terrorism.
And I also agree with you that what lessons have we learned?
jordan holmes
Nothing.
dan friesen
Also, Frank Figliosi has not been in the FBI since 2012.
jordan holmes
There we go!
That's what I wanted to hear.
dan friesen
He does not speak for any organization in any official capacity.
He is a pundit.
unidentified
That is what I was looking for.
dan friesen
I think that Alex's interpretation of this is silly.
And it's just the same thing, this hypersensitivity that you see in the right.
You know, like when Biden says that the main terror threat in the United States comes in the form of white supremacist groups, and then Alex and all of his friends report that Biden said that white people are the biggest threat in the country, it's just the same game being played here.
And I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, they're right to act like that, obviously.
If there's anything that we've learned from the way that the right has behaved whenever there's even the slightest threat to their ability to act with impunity, it's to go apeshit.
And clearly that's the best strategy because nobody's been able to do anything about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it does gum up the works.
jordan holmes
It really does.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex, like you said, he has a lot of big news to cover.
A lot of big stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's got this clip of Frank Figliozzi.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Whatever.
jordan holmes
The figs?
dan friesen
Here's the next thing he gets to.
jordan holmes
You think he gets called Frankie Figs?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
100%.
Has to be.
dan friesen
Has to be, right?
By everybody.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yes.
So here's the next thing Alex has.
And this is just...
I have no idea...
I have no idea why this ranks.
He plays a video of someone coming out as a trans man.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
And people clap.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't know why he's mad about this.
alex jones
So they create all these people who never worked in their life, never had a job, been brainwashed by leftist behavior and manipulation.
And then all they can do is just squeal and squawk and scream because this person has declared themselves something else.
It's the celebration of transhumanism.
And there's the weird social worker in the pink dress like approvingly looking on at what they've done to people.
It just goes on and on.
Here it is.
unidentified
This is kind of scary because I only realized this a couple of days ago and I've only come out to a few people.
I'm a guy.
I'm a guy.
I use he/they pronouns and I'm gonna go by Theo.
alex jones
So these are the lost, helpless people that the system is now in total control of.
dan friesen
I don't understand what Alex is going off of other than there's a person speaking to a group who support them and affirm and validate them.
I don't get how he can take this and be like, aha, this person has been tricked into doing this.
Or whatever.
The only way he can do that is by complete invalidation of the existence of trans people.
That's really the only way you arrive at that conclusion, is that everybody is being tricked.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I was kind of blown away by, you know, like, I stay away from that world so much, but my family is...
Like, told me about some super-Christian literature written by pastors and shit that are like, here's why people think they're boys or girls.
Not like, this is even possible.
Just blanket rejection of the possibility and pure, like, society has failed us.
So, I mean, I had no idea really how deep that belief was.
I thought they at least were like, oh, they're humans.
You know, like, it's just...
Mind-boggling.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So these are the sorts of things that Alex is taking his time with.
And man, he gets towards the end of the show and he realizes, I haven't done my job.
alex jones
The great Owen Troyer is coming in to host two hours of live radio slash TV, and I'm going to go ahead and co-host with him because I got, I don't want to say emotional, but a little preachery in the first hours, but most of the time I'm talking about this great reporter that exposed the whole FBI being under the control of the deep state mafia getting his head blown off at his house.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I kind of wasted the first hour of the show, so...
I'm gonna do the actual job on another show, maybe, but I probably won't.
jordan holmes
Doubtful.
dan friesen
I'll probably just yell at Owen.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna be there while Owen does the work that I am supposed to do and interrupt him and keep him from doing that very same work.
alex jones
And I'm gonna be sauced.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna be drunk.
And I'm gonna be eating a sandwich the whole time.
dan friesen
I have very little respect for this.
I understand that Alex is like, who cares?
Infowars is still on air.
I can just do it then.
No, this is your show.
This is your two-hour block.
You can't just co-opt someone else's show and be like, oh, that's where we're going to do the real stuff.
I'm just going to fill time yelling about bullshit here and trying to get you to pay for my family's Blackwater guards.
It's outrageous.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
It's just dumb.
jordan holmes
I would like to get mad at him when he's doing his job.
Instead of get mad at him when it seems like he's on his own time.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I do prefer feeling like we're actually responding to something.
jordan holmes
Professionalism!
I feel like we deserve a mutual professionalism.
dan friesen
It would be nice.
So Alex has some racist opinions to get to here at the end of the show.
jordan holmes
Can't close without it.
dan friesen
Nope.
I don't even know how to set this up.
It's just outrageous.
It's just...
alex jones
Within the very group killing black people and dumbing them down and shipping drugs in their neighborhoods and giving them gangster rap on record to cause them to kill each other so they could then be put in prison tells you all day how much they love black people and how they're just so sweet.
And you drive down the road, almost all the billboards are black people for every corporation.
And all the big TV ads are black people.
The globalist corporations are putting a black face on everything they do.
Because they go, oh, black people are victims and you've got to be nice to them.
And then the corporations then say we're black people.
It's very simple camouflage.
jordan holmes
Can't have people saying you've got to be nice.
alex jones
Because if you're going to kill the black people, you are going to then sit there and carry out your operations and say black people are doing this.
And at a subconscious level, if you hate the government, you hate the corporations, you hate the UN, you hate the chai comms, you hate all this, and then it's got a black face, what do you do?
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Racism, as always, is everybody else's fault.
dan friesen
I was blown away by this sort of...
Articulation of how Alex sees the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, wow.
BLM gave us NWA 40 years ago.
dan friesen
I would guess that Alex is using some sort of selection bias about all the billboards are black people.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
Could be.
dan friesen
Maybe he's getting mad because he sees some black people there and doesn't notice all of the white people.
jordan holmes
All the billboards used to be white people and now there's some with black people on it and because that's different to me, I notice it.
So now I assume that it has gone 100% the opposite.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm gonna ignore all of the instances of the things that don't make me mad, because seeing black people in ads makes me mad.
jordan holmes
I am a child!
I am a child, I think like a child, and I have no higher thinking skills whatsoever.
dan friesen
Yeah, and this is a bit much.
jordan holmes
Again, why does racism happen, Dan?
It's because the government and corporations put a black face on things.
It has nothing to do with, I don't know, several hundred years or fucking, let's be honest, several thousand years of massive racism.
Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
It's because of corporations and the government now.
That's why white people are so racist.
dan friesen
It's commercials.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows it.
Everybody knows it.
unidentified
It's commercial.
jordan holmes
It's commercial.
It's because one time I saw a black person eat McDonald's with a smile on TV and now I'm racist.
dan friesen
I gotta tell you, I'm not loving it.
So this is a bit of a lead-in to a story about this recent shooting in Austin.
There was, I believe, a concert and there was a shooting there and Alex has some stuff to say about it.
And it's a mess.
alex jones
Do we love God or do we love Satan?
Or are we a dumbass that says neither one exists?
That's the three choices.
You're for Satan, you're for God, or you're a dumbass.
And of course, Satanists are dumbasses too, but not as dumb as those that say there is no God.
So, here's a great example of this.
Most of the mass shootings in America that you hear about that are still pretty rare are gang-related.
So, it's Hispanic on Hispanic.
It's black on black.
And when it is a gang of whites, sometimes motorcycle gangs, it's white on white.
Look at the Hells Angels and the group they were fighting out in California and all over the country.
The Mongols.
So, that's how it works.
So, when I hear about nightclubs shot up in Miami, no one would say what it was about.
So, I looked it up.
It's a black nightclub.
And I go, hmm.
I bet black people went and shot that up.
Sure enough, it was two rival gangs.
It's not about what color they were.
It's the reality of it.
If I hear some right-wing square dance going on in the middle of Alabama, had a shooting at it, I'll go, well, that must be some white gangs killing each other.
And, of course, it happens every once in a while.
It is.
So here's what I'm getting at, ladies and gentlemen.
This story is so huge because it's not about protecting black people.
It's about the media, the controlled corporate media, being able to set the precedent that whenever they want, they can hide a fact.
Because I can tell you, right here in Austin, it started with R.A. Saveda, who's a big Democrat.
It's gotten way worse now.
They'll be a serious...
Because I lived down there when I was in a divorce.
I couldn't get a house, so I had to rent a place.
And, I mean, there were shootings and killings down there in the most elite part of downtown, 2nd Street, all that area.
And you'd hear, oh, that happened in East Austin.
Over on Chacon in 12th.
No, it didn't.
It happened on 2nd Colorado because I saw it.
I heard the gunshots.
So that's why this is so dangerous.
So you've got a hip-hop concert going on.
Who do you think is going to be at that?
A lot of people, but a lot of black folks.
jordan holmes
Wild.
alex jones
And here's the news.
Mass shooting in Austin.
Texas leaves 13 wounded.
Now, can you imagine if it would have been a white person?
That shot into a crowd of mixed people?
jordan holmes
Yes, I can.
alex jones
It didn't matter why he did it, they'd say it was white supremacist.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I mean, I guess what he's saying there at the end is, like, if circumstances were different, people would cover it differently.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Sub-argument, white supremacists never kill anybody.
dan friesen
Wow.
That's Alex's.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's Alex's main argument that he is burying.
unidentified
Man.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is weird.
This is weird.
I don't know how Alex has evidence of crimes that were committed being placed elsewhere in the city.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I love to imagine Alex just in, like, you know, a duster, like a hat, like an old-timey detective from a noir going out there on Second in Colorado.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
They're going to say this is in East Austin.
unidentified
I know it.
jordan holmes
There's a guy wearing a press badge in his hat just walking around.
Sir, did you see this?
dan friesen
The only thing Alex has in common with those sort of noir detectives is a penchant for booze.
That's the only thing he has in common.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think that this is also a bit scattered in terms of thinking.
There's a lot of stuff going all over the place.
When he was in an apartment, he knew that Crimes happened in different places than they said they were.
Also, all of these various shootings.
Yeah.
unidentified
So what's going on here is that he believes that the media is trying to cover up the notion that the shooter in this Austin case was a black person.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
And so he's going to talk about this here.
dan friesen
And I...
Disagree with his point entirely.
alex jones
Only Fox carried that press conference.
Every other channel didn't.
But the Austin American Statesman went one further.
They said, editors note, police have only released a vague description of the suspect shooter as of Saturday morning.
The Austin American Statesman is not including the description.
As it is too vague, they still have it by the way, at this time to be useful in identifying the shooter and such publication could be harmful in perpetrating stereotypes.
If more detailed information is released, we will update the reporting.
They still have it last time I checked an hour ago.
So why is that so important?
Why is that so over the top?
Because what color somebody is, what they're wearing, what they're driving, what they're dressed like.
dan friesen
So this editor's note that Alex is reading from the Statesman, I found it, and it's in the article about the shooter's arrest.
At the point of the article's publication, the vague description of the shooter is no longer really that important for the public safety angle that Alex is talking about, and the newspaper does not have identifying information released to them because the suspect is a juvenile.
There's just really simple explanations for, you know, all this stuff that Alex is claiming is so confusing, and it comes from the very source material that Alex is going off of.
But it's more important to try and stoke white fear and victimhood and aggrievement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was gonna say, it's...
Very, uh, I don't know if I've ever heard a white dude describe why what he's doing is not racist without being incredibly racist about it.
dan friesen
That is a phenomenon that Alex falls victim to quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because it seems like if you were, you know, like, the best a white person can probably do is be like, hey, listen, I was raised racist in a racist-ass country.
I got blind spots.
I'm doing my best.
Please tell me when I'm being racist because I'm sure I will be.
It's my bad, I'll learn.
dan friesen
Not Alex.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
It's a slightly different approach to it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I don't know.
I feel like this whole display at the end of the show is real gross and made me think, hey.
Why didn't you get to the news?
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
Or was that the big story?
So at the end of the show, right as he's going out, he's throwing it to Owen.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
He gets to one of the big headlines that he didn't get to.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
This is huge news, if true, which I don't think it is.
alex jones
Coming up next hour, didn't hit this yet, exclusive defense.
The department admits major defector has been there for over a year, provide evidence.
The Chinese military orchestrated the creation of the COVID-19 and released the bioweapon.
And of course, they did.
That is so huge.
They do not want you to know this.
dan friesen
You don't want people to know it.
jordan holmes
How is that possible?
That is theoretically confirmation of everything he's ever said.
dan friesen
It's theoretically the biggest news ever.
jordan holmes
The biggest news.
unidentified
That is essentially saying that China is an act of war.
jordan holmes
It's the biggest possible news.
dan friesen
The Chinese military released a bioweapon that has killed millions of people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay, you had two hours on air and haven't got to this story yet.
jordan holmes
Well, that's about everybody else, Dan.
I needed to talk about me.
dan friesen
That's such bullshit.
jordan holmes
I needed to talk about me for the first two hours.
dan friesen
So...
Just the worst.
unidentified
That is fucking horrific.
Yep.
dan friesen
So that's how he ends his show on Sunday.
And I think it's fitting.
I think it all does mesh with like...
Who he is as a broadcaster.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's about himself.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's intense.
It's trying to incite people towards violence.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
It's transphobic.
It's racist.
It's stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a real murderer's row.
dan friesen
And it's constantly self-critical of, I haven't got to the stuff that I'm supposed to do.
jordan holmes
I haven't done any of this.
dan friesen
Pretends that it's about to.
jordan holmes
It never does.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
jordan holmes
It is like a perpetual child who has not done the book report.
It is a show that is entirely around what if you just gave that kid three hours to try and distract himself away from revealing he didn't do the work.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's almost a really interesting bluffing improv exercise.
jordan holmes
It is!
In a way, it kind of is.
dan friesen
If it wasn't so destructive and dangerous, it might be the greatest 27-year-long Herald.
jordan holmes
Really?
It's just a non-stop barrage.
dan friesen
I mean, Alex does sing sometimes.
It could be a herald.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
Anyway.
Jordan, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yes, we're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are.
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund within your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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