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May 14, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#557: May 11, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on some modern day Alex.  In this installment, Dan is a little down in the dumps about yet another bombshell that turns out to be a dud, and Alex solves the mystery of the Colonial Pipeline hack.

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alex jones
16:50
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dan friesen
37:05
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jordan holmes
20:00
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alfie oaks
01:47
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ted nugent
03:00
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steve quayle
00:02
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tucker carlson
00:24
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
We're a couple dudes like to sit around or worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
This is the second time we've had to record the intro because something happened and it wasn't recording.
And in that, we riffed about how I'm not a one-take guy.
Now this is the second take of our intro.
jordan holmes
So here we go.
And it was better on the second go-round.
dan friesen
I'm not sure it was.
I think it was a little smoother on the first take.
jordan holmes
You know, you were a little in your head on the second take because you were disappointed that the first take was so good that we didn't get to use it.
dan friesen
And you wrote down in your notebook, not a one-take.
jordan holmes
Al, that's my fault.
It was too good a joke.
unidentified
It was.
jordan holmes
It was too good.
dan friesen
Glad to cut you off at the pass.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, you know what my bright spot is.
dan friesen
Uh, this?
jordan holmes
You got it.
Dan?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is that I made a return visit to the much-legended...
jordan holmes
Ballyhooed.
dan friesen
No, I don't know if anyone's Ballyhooed.
That's true.
But it is the stuff of legend, the witch store here in Chicago.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
I went there.
They have crystal balls and books and probably tarot cards.
unidentified
For sure.
dan friesen
Sage that you can burn to purify places and what have you.
But they also have a large selection of bath salts.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And I have gotten...
jordan holmes
Bath salts that grant wishes.
dan friesen
That is true.
That is true.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I have a bag that promises psychic powers.
And I have not used it yet, because I'm afraid to.
jordan holmes
Does it describe them?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It doesn't?
What?
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
I need more.
I need specifics.
If you're going to give me psychic powers, they can backfire so easily.
dan friesen
That's why I haven't used them yet.
It's too risky.
jordan holmes
Too much power.
No one man should have all that power.
dan friesen
I've seen a number of these movies about telepathy that end up because it's such a nuisance hearing everyone's thoughts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
You think it's a good idea.
It's one of those classic monkey's paw type situations, you know?
Be careful what you wish for, and I will never wish for psychic powers.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's near my bathtub as a, in case of emergency, break glass.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Get some psychic powers.
But yeah, for now.
jordan holmes
They're at the gates!
Get the psychic bath salts!
Quick!
Get Dan in the bathtub now!
dan friesen
For now, it's just tranquility and peace.
jordan holmes
I like that.
That's a good spell.
dan friesen
So how about you?
jordan holmes
For me, Dan, the French Open.
Coming up soon.
Coming up soon.
Rafa, he's playing on clay right now, getting ready to go for his...
Inevitable next French Open win, and today he fought a really tough match with Shapovalov, who is also one of my favorite players.
He's a Canadian kid.
Gangles in the present tense, like he's gangling at you.
Incredible tennis player, though.
Fantastic match.
Won it in the tiebreak, Rafa.
It's...
Just great.
It was a great morning.
dan friesen
It was a great morning!
That was at three this morning, I bet?
unidentified
That was at six this morning, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Well, I'm glad you got to enjoy that.
jordan holmes
Yes, I did.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have...
I was going to say it's interesting, but we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
See, now that's what I want.
That's what I want from late night shows.
dan friesen
I've been broken.
jordan holmes
Ladies and gentlemen, tonight we've still got to do a show.
It's Thursday.
I don't know what to tell you.
It's in the contract.
dan friesen
No, that's not fair.
There's some fun stuff in here, but there's another thing that I'm just becoming endlessly...
Ground down by, I will say.
So this is May 11th, 2021, Blackjack.
jordan holmes
I wasn't even close on that one.
No, that was brutal.
dan friesen
So the thing that I'm getting ground down by is that thing that we've already talked about, that sort of dynamic.
This show is incredibly one-note.
It's all anti-vax nonsense.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And when Alex comes through with something exciting, like one of these primary source documents that's actually, oh, this is kind of an interesting thing to look into.
We can learn here.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Middle-aged mice come up.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Spouse mouse.
What fun we can have there.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Other times, Alex just...
He's got nothing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And sometimes that nothing comes in the form of a bombshell.
And I'm sick and fucking tired of non-existent bombshells.
jordan holmes
Have we heard anything about Polygon yet?
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
I'm sick of the biggest news in the world being nothing.
And just like that...
It burns out something in your brain, you know, where you're just like, hearing somebody be so fake excited about something.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Something, I don't know.
I'm going to be in the past for the next episode.
jordan holmes
You're being gaslit.
You're being gaslit in a way that is exhausting.
You can only be gaslit so long before it starts to break your psyche.
dan friesen
At the same time, I have no expectation that I should be believing Alex, so that helps a little bit.
unidentified
It does.
dan friesen
It makes it less painful, but the process is still there and it's frustrating.
jordan holmes
You're not completely inculcated from that.
That kind of result.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so today's bombshell was just like, I'm out.
I'm going to be out for a while.
jordan holmes
Today's bombshell.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm selling this episode real well.
So, Jordan, before we get into this, let's take a little moment and say hello to some wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I can't wait to see LeVar Burton host Jeopardy!
in July.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
I agree with you on all fronts.
dan friesen
I bet LaVar Burden's a policy wonk, too.
jordan holmes
That'd be nice.
dan friesen
Honkinatrix, practitioner of clown-like bondage.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, the foxiest chicken, Emily.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, the foxiest chicken, Emily.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Frank Rizzo Jerky.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Frank Rizzo Jerky.
dan friesen
And, uh, I don't want to say this.
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Don't whisper it into my ear and I'll say it.
dan friesen
I'm not going to do that.
I'll just bite the bullet on this.
The return of Poop Feast 420.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
I'm looking forward to the third installment.
That's going to be my favorite.
dan friesen
Revenge of Poop Feast 420.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
And then I'd like to say thank you to technocrat out there, David S. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare InfoWare on you.
Thank you, David.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, David.
dan friesen
Also, I don't know how to do this exactly sometimes.
You know, like, well wishes for birthdays.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Sometimes it's kind of difficult for me because...
jordan holmes
You do it at the bottom of a well, naturally.
dan friesen
That's where I throw my pennies.
For everyone's birthday, I should say, everybody who we wish a happy birthday to, I do throw a penny into a well on your behalf.
jordan holmes
That's really nice of you.
That's nice of you.
I should do that.
I just, you know, I don't walk by enough wells.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's so many in my neighborhood.
unidentified
I know.
dan friesen
It's true.
I'm not always sure whenever someone's birthday is on the weekend.
Whether we should do this on the Friday show or on the Monday show, what do you do?
unidentified
That's fair.
dan friesen
Do you do it after the fact, or do you wish them a happy birthday a couple days early?
jordan holmes
It's like St. Patrick's Day.
When do you celebrate it?
dan friesen
When is it observed?
jordan holmes
When is it, yeah.
dan friesen
I never quite know, but I'm going to go ahead and go ahead of the game on this one, on the 16th, this weekend coming up.
Cameron's got a 30th birthday.
Nicole would like to wish him a happy birthday.
jordan holmes
Well, congratulations, Cameron!
dan friesen
Yep, happy birthday.
Hope you have a great one.
And hope doing this in advance was better than, like...
If you'd heard this on Monday and been like, wow, that would have made my birthday a lot better if I'd fucking heard it earlier.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but what if this is so important to him that now his actual birthday is just going to be a huge letdown?
Everybody's going to be like, happy birthday!
And he's going to go, eh, my birthday was when the Knowledge Fight guys said happy birthday for way too long.
dan friesen
This is the risk we take.
So, Jordan, there's one bit of news that's been going around that I want to address.
It doesn't come up on this episode, but it is something that happened at the beginning of this week, and that is that Alex is back in the gold game, my man.
Infowarsgold.com.
jordan holmes
All right.
It's about time.
dan friesen
ready to start this back up again, but I wasn't sure if he was ever going to take the plunge.
And then a large portion of the show on Monday was an interview with his new gold sponsor, a St. Joseph Partners, a precious metals outfit out of Paoli, Pennsylvania.
Hmm.
I didn't know too much about this guy or his business outside of the fact that he decided to get into business with Alex Jones in 2021.
So I can't say much about what's going on with him, but I know he's not cool.
jordan holmes
I cannot give this gold away!
I'm gonna have to partner with Alex Jones!
dan friesen
So I did find it interesting.
I was looking into it a little bit, and there's no physical address for St. Joseph's partner available on their website.
That struck me as a little bit curious.
jordan holmes
It's just an asshole with a chest buried in his backyard.
dan friesen
Well, the contact information is literally just an email address.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
It's an asshole with a chest buried in his backyard.
dan friesen
But here's where things get weird.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So if you click on their Contact Us page, an image of a Google map pops up with a marker at the address 8thegreen, Dover, Delaware, 19901.
However...
jordan holmes
That's a tax shelter.
Delaware is a tax shelter state.
dan friesen
If you Google St. Joseph Partners, you get a different address.
1776 Lancaster Avenue, Powley, Pennsylvania.
This is the address for Powley Plaza, which is a strip mall of shops.
It doesn't look like there's a real...
Like, brick-and-mortar location for this gold outfit there.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
There is a Rita's Italian Ice.
jordan holmes
I think they specifically may have chosen 1776 as a...
dan friesen
No, I don't think so.
I think it's a coincidence.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Pauly is a city with a population of, like, just over 3,500, so why would they have a shop there?
It's ridiculous.
Right, right.
It's a UPS Dropbox.
That's what it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course it is.
dan friesen
So, as you astutely already realize, Delaware is a tax haven type of state.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And 8thegreen in Dover is a pretty notorious address.
It's the location that's used by a company known as a Registered Agent Incorporated, which allows people to incorporate their business in Delaware, which a lot of folks do to avoid taxes.
But it's actually not all about taxes.
So LegalZoom has a breakdown of the advantages and disadvantages of incorporating in Delaware, and one of the perks is when you file in Delaware, you don't need to disclose your directors' and officers' names to the state, which allows you anonymity.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's way better than not paying taxes.
I bet people would pay extra taxes for that option!
dan friesen
This became an issue a few years back, as was covered in the Delaware News Journal when the SEC was trying to investigate whether a number of Delaware-based LLCs had engaged in fraud.
235 companies were at issue, 24 of them were based in Colorado while the rest were in Delaware, and most of the businesses in Delaware were run through a registered agent incorporated.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, none of this proves anything that's explicit wrongdoing, but it's a bit sketchy.
gold dealer I'd be less inclined to do business with than Ted Anderson is if it was a guy who had no apparent physical address whose site appears to be explicitly saying that he got a phony incorporation in Delaware.
I would steer clear of this, and if anybody out there is actually interested in investing in precious metals...
I have to assume that there is a safer and better option.
jordan holmes
So many other options that aren't just a weird dude with a UPS Dropbox.
There's at least three other options.
There's renting a boat and going under the water for sunken treasure.
That's a way better option.
Then, of course, there is...
Globetrotting and stealing ancient artifacts from Egypt and the like.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's always a good option.
And then, I guess, the securities market?
dan friesen
Alchemy.
jordan holmes
Oh, alchemy.
Shit, I forgot four.
Yep, you're right.
dan friesen
There's always four ways to learn.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't know.
I'm not too excited about this endeavor.
I think it looks really sketchy as hell.
And it's just another instance of Alex having, like...
Landing pages with other people's shit.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because it's like, okay, so yeah, Infowarsgold.com, but that just takes you to St. Joseph Partners slash Infowars.
jordan holmes
It's just an affiliate tracking leak.
dan friesen
Yeah, basically.
So we get to May 11th here.
We're starting it off.
Tuesday's show.
Alex has big news.
jordan holmes
Does he?
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Tuesday, May 11th.
The year is 2021.
And this is undoubtedly the most important news we've ever broken today.
I stayed up here late last night, but I got too exhausted to finish the report.
It'll be done in a few hours.
And I was so pleasantly surprised when I got home and turned on Tucker Carlson to have dinner with my family that he smoked us.
dan friesen
I was just too tired.
jordan holmes
I was just too tired.
Honestly, you know, around 11 o 'clock the Xanax kicks in and I'm just out.
dan friesen
I'm in a life and death battle with the devil.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I have the silver bullet that will defeat the devil.
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I think that's one of the devil's big advantages.
He never seems to get tired.
dan friesen
He casts sleepy spells on people.
jordan holmes
Well, that's nice.
That's nice.
dan friesen
So I was curious about this big news.
And actually, I decided that this would be the day that I'd cover because he's got the biggest news ever.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
We already had the biggest news ever like twice this week.
Right.
And so I was like, wow, I mean, this has got to be big.
alex jones
Here's the headline.
Tucker Carlson, Anthony Fauci let the coronavirus pandemic happen.
Well, they did it on purpose.
Why isn't there a criminal investigation?
Well, we have the smoking gun where the director for Bill Gates and for Fauci...
dan friesen
So, the video that Alex is referring to is an episode of a podcast called This Week in Virology, produced by the American Society for Microbiology.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The guest is Peter Dasik, the president of EcoHealth Alliance.
Alex claims that he's a director for Bill Gates, but this clip that's from the actual interview seems a little bit at odds with that.
jordan holmes
Do you have support from, say...
unidentified
Gates Foundation?
No, we've never got Gates money.
I think that Gates...
Gates had a strategy of specifically targeting things that they considered neglected, diseases that were neglected.
We're working on what they consider...
Not neglected diseases.
dan friesen
So I guess he got no funding from Gates.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would make sense.
dan friesen
Anyway, big mess up there on the giant news of the day right out of the gate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not a good start.
dan friesen
So this is a really interesting interview that Peter Daszak had, but it's being completely misused by Alex to paint the picture of a guy confessing to created SARS-CoV-2.
In reality, the EcoHealth Alliance is a non-profit that works on global health issues from the perspective of what Peter calls One Health.
This is a philosophy that every condition has a human component, Right.
Right.
unidentified
The EcoHealth Alliance grew out of a conservation organization, and part of their ethos is a belief that you can make pragmatic and economically sound arguments for ecological conservation.
dan friesen
For instance, in the interview, Peter brings up the unexamined health costs of deforestation that massively outweigh the profits that are made from the practice.
Right.
unidentified
If it can be made clear to everyone, the decision makers, that not only is destruction of nature bad, but it's also not even in the best interests of profit...
dan friesen
These people believe that they can make headway towards conservation action.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I watched the whole 35 minute interview and essentially what it comes down to is that Peter discusses working with labs in many countries, including China, where they do surveillance of animal populations to try to identify any diseases that could become a problem for humans.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
One of the concerns he brings up is coronaviruses and he discusses how you can manipulate coronaviruses in a lab pretty easily.
Alex is taking that statement to be a confession that Peter combined a bunch of viruses together and then unleashed them as SARS coronavirus.
That is definitive.
jordan holmes
That is defamatory.
dan friesen
It's outrageous.
And I can't imagine Like, how unsafe this is to do to somebody.
And I don't know, like, exactly what the line is for, like, public figure, but I'm not sure that I would put the president of EcoHealth Nonprofit as a public figure in the same way that, like, a celebrity or someone...
At the same time, I guess an argument could be made that he's become somebody who goes around on some news programs talking about COVID.
jordan holmes
Because of assholes like Alex!
Alex for...
He forced him into becoming a public figure by giving him the attention that he should never have had in the first place if anybody responsibly treated this fucking pandemic.
dan friesen
No, I think even without some of that, he would have been seen as somebody who would be gone to for interviews in the early days of the outbreak.
I think he still would have made some media rounds.
But again, what I'm saying is I'm not sure exactly where that line is.
I'm not sure what side he's on, but I would be...
I would be...
jordan holmes
Let's find out.
I would like to find out.
I would like to fuck around and find out, quite literally.
dan friesen
I think it would be worth discovering, because you can't just do this to people.
It's outrageous.
jordan holmes
No, I saw a little bit of that Tucker thing, and I just began spitting.
The idea of him doing that...
After being the cause of us all being locked down for a fucking year.
That's grounds for immediate slapping.
If you see him, you get to slap Tucker Carlson in the face.
dan friesen
The Tucker piece was largely based on that article that Nicholas Wade wrote.
And even that doesn't claim to have a conclusion.
The second or third paragraph of it is, I have no direct evidence for either theory, whether it's a lab origin or natural origin.
And it's being used by people like Tucker to push the, it must have been made in a lab.
Yeah.
Now, Alex's version is far more irresponsible than what Tucker's doing.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally, totally.
dan friesen
Which is normal, but...
Anyway, Alex got scooped by Tucker.
alex jones
Now, I told you at the end of the war yesterday that the biggest news yet was coming out, but I would break it today.
Tucker Carlson broke it last night.
And he gave you about 80% of it.
But the clip he didn't play, and we're going to get to that after we play the Tucker Carlson Report, a part of it, is that the director of the program under Fauci and Gates, on record funded by them, $4 million for just six programs, they funded some others as well at the Wuhan lab, gave an interview and admitted they were splicing five viruses together as a bioweapon to then produce a quote vaccine for it.
And that they got emergency authorization to do it.
This is game over for these people, ladies and gentlemen.
If the public ever grasped this, it's game over.
jordan holmes
It's game over.
alex jones
Yep.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
A lot of stuff being made up in that clip.
unidentified
Yikes.
dan friesen
So Alex plays Tucker clips for most, like, a lot of the first hour.
jordan holmes
That's a good job.
dan friesen
And I don't make a big enough deal out of this, but, like, he plays a lot of Tucker Carlson clips.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
It's a lot of, like, in place of special reports sometimes, he'll just have a Tucker segment.
jordan holmes
That's awesome.
I love it.
I love not having to do my job.
And that is a perfect encapsulation of, I will just let a famous person fill in time.
That's great.
dan friesen
And it'll deeply associate myself with him.
Totally.
unidentified
Yeah, it's brilliant.
jordan holmes
Brilliant marketing strategy.
dan friesen
Anyway, I found this to be a little funny.
alex jones
Here's Tucker Carlson, and we'll come back with the rest of the story.
tucker carlson
You're never taking off the mask.
Get ready for a lifetime of filthy, wet cotton covering your mouth, reduced oxygen flow to your brain, and a world where every stranger looks the same because no one has a face.
When Kamala Harris and her husband kissed the other day while wearing masks, they were giving you a preview of your daughter's wedding.
In a masked world human beings never really touch each other.
jordan holmes
You whitey fucking babies!
dan friesen
You whitey babies!
I don't watch Tucker Carlson that much, so I don't know if this is indicative of his style.
jordan holmes
That is...
unidentified
Whoa!
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
dan friesen
He's got some very dramatic writers employed on that staff.
jordan holmes
That is your daughter's wedding!
dan friesen
You're gonna watch your daughter and her husband kiss with masks on.
jordan holmes
Okay, instead of sign language, there should just be a picture-in-picture of a guy making the jerk-off motion, just like, listen to this fucking asshole.
dan friesen
What a dick.
And, I mean, like, what was it, just like the next day the CDC released guidance that if you're vaccinated, you don't have to wear masks.
jordan holmes
No, it should be criminal.
It should be criminal to be Tucker Carlson.
It should be criminal.
If you see him in the streets, you slap him in the face.
dan friesen
This is a dangerous precedent to set.
unidentified
You're right.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
Gotta walk that back.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Then we will only set this precedent for one person.
dan friesen
I'm not sure I can sign off on that.
But the point is, you're never gonna be taking the mask off.
Smash cut just hours later.
jordan holmes
The next day.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Great.
Cool.
Anyway, Alex has the biggest news ever.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
We're breaking the biggest news we have ever brought out on air.
It is incredible what's happening.
The lab manager for the COVID-19 gain-of-function research being done at Chapel Hill had it moved with a scientist at Wuhan and then admits on video to merging five viruses together.
To be able to then deploy them.
dan friesen
See, I was listening to this and it didn't match with the interview that I had watched.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It didn't seem at all accurate.
alex jones
He's on video saying five different viruses were combined.
jordan holmes
Play that clip.
alex jones
What?
A bombshell.
He confesses to it.
dan friesen
So I was really confused.
Like I said, it didn't seem like it was what I had watched.
So I went and I watched Alex's special report about this.
Sure.
I was trying to figure out what was going on.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And that helped make it a little clear.
Daszak was talking about how some of the coronaviruses they discovered didn't have known treatments.
And the interviewer person giving the interview asks a follow-up question about that.
Daszak then discusses how if you're going to create a vaccine for something like SARS, because so much of it involves the spike protein, you probably want to create...
Sure.
He was just discussing it in terms of, like, that seems like something people would do if they were going to go that route.
jordan holmes
Have you ever...
dan friesen
That is not at all as him saying, I fused viruses together.
jordan holmes
Alex might as well just scream, like, we kill one bird, one stone!
No more!
dan friesen
He's like, uh, Alex is pretending this guy's like, uh, I stitched together viruses with a needle and thread.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He's got some magical sci-fi.
Yeah, it's stupid.
dan friesen
It should be incredibly clear and very strongly pointed to that Alex is talking about this with the premeditated intention of hurting people.
The idea of shutting down the economy.
The idea of killing people in the developing world.
And he's saying that this guy is admitting to doing that.
By way of creating the virus SARS-CoV-2.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I think he should be sued for that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he did just call the man responsible for what would essentially be mass-scale murder.
So I would hope that that would be in some way defamatory.
dan friesen
It feels like it's real playing with fire.
Especially considering everything we know about Alex's audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, I was like, wow, okay.
This is not a bombshell, but it feels like Alex is going to talk about this quite a bit.
jordan holmes
A lot.
dan friesen
Then he said this, and I was like, what?
alex jones
Now, I have Alfie Oaks on about the pipeline shutdown, the food shortages.
He's one of the biggest producers of food in Florida, if not the biggest.
He doesn't just own grocery stores.
His real business is growing food.
And I wanted to get his expert take on the inflation we're seeing and where that's going.
dan friesen
So Alfie Oaks is the guy who owns that grocery store that Alex went to in Florida for a week a while back.
jordan holmes
Is he a former oil pipeline expert?
dan friesen
I don't care.
No, he's not.
But I don't care what he has to say either.
However, it should be noted that he's only relevant in any way because he's made a big deal out of how no one has to wear masks in his grocery store.
In a completely unrelated story, I would like to inform you that Ted Nugent tested positive for COVID just one week after doing an in-store appearance at Oaks grocery store Seed to Table.
Prior to this, Oaks had appeared on Ted Nugent's YouTube show called Spirit Campfire and said, quote, no one is getting infected here.
No one's dying.
I want to get the truth out.
It's a fraud.
It's a sham.
And people have to wake up.
Anyway, fuck these people.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
I'm starting to think that believing that witches are responsible for your problems is a recipe for getting COVID.
dan friesen
So Alex has this idea that no one else is posting this Tucker Carlson segment, and so he's going to put it up on his website, but just because no one else is posting it, not because he's trying to poach content or anything.
alex jones
We're going to have the whole thing posted to the band on video, so in case they try to take it down.
And the full Tucker Carlson 14-minute dialogue has also been posted because Fox isn't posting that on YouTube.
They always post this full show.
They always post clips.
They're not doing it.
So in the interest of public interest, I'm posting a demand on video for commentary and analysis and historic reference.
jordan holmes
Historic reference.
alex jones
That's a free copyright.
I'm not canceling Alfie Oaks.
I already did it yesterday.
I'm not canceling Ted Nugent.
unidentified
They're here.
alex jones
It all ties together.
But after they're gone in an hour, And five minutes from now, I am going to...
You see this stack right here?
This is all the documents he's talking about and the videos of total open and shut case.
There isn't a grand jury in America, if I had a day to show them this in the clips, would not indict Fauci and indict Peter Daszak and all these people.
dan friesen
That'd be really funny to see Alex trying to prosecute a grand jury.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, Alex doesn't have his heart in this.
dan friesen
It doesn't feel like it.
I think he didn't actually read the story.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I get a sense at a lot of points that he doesn't really have a handle on the details of things, and he can't really weaponize them.
Right.
He's treading water a whole lot.
And that's one of the things that I find incredibly frustrating.
Like this video, this podcast interview was months old.
It's maybe a year old.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I think it was from March 2020, I believe.
And if you go and look at it on YouTube, months back, people are commenting on it like, oh my God.
Yeah.
report this it's just that Tucker brought it up the night before yeah so Alex needs to make a bombshell out of it without actually knowing the story at all and so he just kind of rushes to air and it's stupid yeah just I'm I'm I find myself just incredibly uninspired.
And, at the same time, I think it's incredibly funny that Ted Nugent probably got COVID by going to this guy's grocery store, and they're both guests on the show today.
That's weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I don't even know how to deal with that.
Honestly, in a real universe where you accept reality as a thing, I can't be in the headspace of somebody who thinks any of...
What happened is okay.
dan friesen
It's funny, but it's not great.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
dan friesen
It's not the kind of funny I'm looking for.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And this is why I'm going to be in the past for a little bit.
jordan holmes
I'm going to scream, I told you so funny.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, Fauci.
That guy, Tony Fauci, who Alex actually looked into at the beginning of the pandemic, and he's an all-star, he's a legend, and Dr. Steve Pachanek said he's one of the best who's ever existed.
jordan holmes
One of the best there's ever been.
dan friesen
But then all that went away really fast.
jordan holmes
Hey, wow, that's because he's evil.
dan friesen
Anyway, he's got to be executed.
alex jones
Well, I'm going to tell you, Fauci and Gates and all of them are going to be lucky if they just spend the rest of their lives in prison after we have Nuremberg trials.
A lot of them.
If justice is done through the courts, I'm not calling for...
Outside the courts of vigilante stuff, but I believe they should be tried for treason and biological warfare under the Nuremberg Code, and I believe just like Nazi scientists, they should be executed.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought you meant hired to work for us.
alex jones
I stand for justice against these criminals, and we'll see who wins at the end of this, but I know this, I'm with God, and that's what really matters.
God watches over our battlefields and over our lives and over our children and over our destiny, and I put my hands into Jesus Christ's hands.
I put my soul into Christ's orbit.
And I commit myself to God.
Alright, I gotta go to break.
We got Alfie Oaks coming on, one of the biggest food producers on the East Coast.
To tell you what's really going on with the giant food price increases that are already here and coming.
Don't forget, you have until tomorrow night at midnight that it's gotta end to get last year's prices on high-quality, horrible food ready to ship to you within days.
They ship it out the next day.
dan friesen
That's convenient.
jordan holmes
It's May.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're gonna have another chance to get last year's prices today.
dan friesen
I think so, yeah.
In December, you'll have a chance to get last year's prices.
jordan holmes
You're gonna be alright.
It's not gonna be yet.
dan friesen
The Easter sale's gonna be going in December.
So, yeah, I just, I found that to be, like, uh, just a, right?
This is how it goes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Intense, violent fantasies towards his enemies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Blah, blah, blah.
I love God.
Food guy's coming on to scare you.
I sell food.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's cookie cutter.
Cut and paste.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is really, really lazy.
It's just really lazy.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
And we all have our bad days, but for InfoWars, this is just unacceptable.
dan friesen
And it's such a stark contrast between the bad day that surrounded the middle-aged mice, because at least that's...
Funny as hell.
That's lazy, that's bad, but there's a funniness to it.
jordan holmes
There's an energy to it.
dan friesen
This is a 35-minute podcast interview with a guy from a year ago that is interesting, but Alex doesn't have a handle on it and can't really do much with it.
It's just...
jordan holmes
And your guests are a grocery store guy and a...
dan friesen
A perv.
jordan holmes
A perv, a former...
Yeah.
Fuck both of these guys.
dan friesen
There's other news in the world, though.
Sure.
Of course, that pipeline.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
Yes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I heard this clip and my response to it was, okay, Alex, fine.
alex jones
Then you've got the Keystone XL pipeline that was opening a few months ago.
It got closed to bring in all the oil from Canada and around the Midwest down to Houston to be refined and then sent up the colonial pipeline to the East Coast.
So Biden shut that down.
They say some shadowy hacker group did it.
They say they want to post-industrial America.
He said he would kill fossil fuels.
I believe the main suspect is Biden now blaming Russia.
That's just where the...
Historical evidence is, and, you know, if he already shut down our main other pipeline, well, why wouldn't he shut down the other?
dan friesen
I have made up that Biden is the prime suspect in the Colonial Pipeline Act, and now I'm reporting it as the most likely possibility.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Interesting, if true.
dan friesen
Based on historical analysis.
jordan holmes
If true, that would be...
That's a way bigger bombshell than anything else!
Bombshell!
President Hack's own pipeline!
That's a bombshell!
dan friesen
That'd be crazy.
jordan holmes
Right there!
dan friesen
Yeah, and also, I can't help but, like, now that I know that Alex, you know, back in the past would say that his prediction of 9-11 was based on historical analysis and research, and then it turns out it was just a dream.
jordan holmes
Bill Cooper said that.
dan friesen
But he also just had a dream.
jordan holmes
Well, it was a good dream.
dan friesen
I can't help but hear him say stuff is based on, like, research and analysis and be like, you're probably lying, and you probably had a dream.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you watched The Net the night before, and then...
Transposed Biden's face onto Sandra Bullock, which is a nightmare, I agree.
dan friesen
You fell asleep watching Tucker, and now you had a little bit of the NyQuil, and you're fucked up.
jordan holmes
Man, I still can't get my head around the idea that the whole family gathers around a dinner table and they have Tucker Carlson on while they eat dinner.
dan friesen
I bet they don't.
jordan holmes
Of course they don't.
That's the worst thing I can think of.
dan friesen
Yeah, I bet they don't do that.
I bet Alex sits alone and eats dinner watching Tucker Carlson.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I imagine Alex spends a lot of...
Time alone watching Tucker Carlson.
dan friesen
Gotta take notes.
So Alfie Oaks is on, and it's mostly just about fear, spreading fear about food and stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But you also should know that if you want to take that seriously, you should know what else Alfie believes.
alfie oaks
We know that the Biden White House agenda is lockstep with every single thing that these globalists want to do to ruin our country, to have their takeover.
We're the last beacon.
And I do feel, with all this doom that we see, I do feel very confident that we're going to get the country back this time.
It's not going to be easy.
It's not going to be as fast as everybody wants.
But our American spirit is still there.
I feel firmly that That, you know, there was 80 million people that voted for Trump and somewhere in the 61 million that voted for Biden.
alex jones
And the majority of Americans, even in the national polls, do not agree.
70% of Republicans, 30% of Democrats, and the number's higher.
No, it was a fraud.
Stay there.
Let's talk about solutions.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Trump actually won in 2020, and we're going to get the country back.
jordan holmes
Huh.
dan friesen
So does he seem like a really credible source, like the kind of guy you want to hang out with?
jordan holmes
What is it about...
White man in undeserved confidence.
Where does it come from, Dan?
He says looking into a mirror.
dan friesen
I don't know if this confidence that Alfie's got is undeserved.
Because I think he's a sleuth.
jordan holmes
That's possible?
dan friesen
I think he's a sleuth.
And I base that on this next clip where he lays out a conspiracy that is almost certainly true.
He can probably...
Not come close to proving it.
And he might also tip his hand a little bit too much at the end of this clip.
jordan holmes
Will he give me a discount on eggs?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alfie oaks
These companies like Monsanto in particular, owned by Bayer...
Think about this, and this scam's been going on for a long time, and it used to be maybe thought of as a conspiracy theory, but we're watching it play out.
jordan holmes
Used to be.
alfie oaks
We disrupted, like, putting real fertilizer in the ground, like real organic fertilizer.
They're putting this chemical MPK that Bayer will sell these farmers.
Universities are telling them it's okay to use.
Then, because it's not nutrient-rich, it grows an inferior product, and most of it's...
You know, GMO stuff.
So then that product grows.
We put it in our bodies.
Our bodies are starving to death.
We fill up our guts with stuff, but we're starving because the food that we're eating is not nutrient-rich.
And then guess what?
We get ill.
And guess what company is selling you the...
The pharmaceutical drugs that supposedly make you better, it's Bayer.
It's the same company.
So it's a vicious cycle.
I don't know if they were that genius to create it or if they've just let it go along the way.
alex jones
We actually have documents where they give us the illnesses to then give us the treatments.
alfie oaks
Exactly.
It's 100% what's happening.
And this is why I'm not saying it because I have local farms and we grow the stuff the right way.
But go out there and support your local farms.
dan friesen
It's good that you're not saying that because you run competing business interests.
jordan holmes
Well, well.
dan friesen
Because I might have been worried that...
unidentified
There's that.
dan friesen
Look, I'm no fan of Monsanto.
jordan holmes
No, I think we've all...
I think that's the only thing that unites all Americans except for the ones who work high up in Monsanto is that I think everybody's gotten high and yelled about Monsanto to each other at one point or another.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that some of the practices that they have are disreputable and I'm a fan.
Yeah.
But I don't think it's sensible to speculate that they are making everyone sick so Bayer can sell prescriptions or whatever.
And then for Alex to say, we have the documents that they get us in order to sell us cures.
That's so not specific.
jordan holmes
You don't need any conspiracy theories because a business trying to monopolize food is bad!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Before you go in, their entire existence is now based around trying to control food, and everybody needs food.
dan friesen
Yeah, the idea, I think, ever of making terminal seeds, you know, that don't...
jordan holmes
That's just so fucking evil.
I mean, like, real downright goddamn.
dan friesen
I'm not sure what you do to legislate it, but any company that would be interested in doing that, I find to be abhorrent.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Like, it's...
dan friesen
And I understand why the profit motivation would lead you to that idea.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, of course.
dan friesen
But it's no good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, absolutely.
dan friesen
So anyway, I don't like Alfie much.
I think that conspiracy that he's got is really stupid.
But...
He did contribute to one thing I can get behind, and that is probably giving Ted Nugent COVID.
jordan holmes
That is good.
That is good.
Not all heroes wear capes, Dad.
dan friesen
Well, Ted Nugent's back better than ever.
jordan holmes
Damn it.
dan friesen
He's fine.
jordan holmes
Shit.
dan friesen
But he still rambles a lot.
jordan holmes
Okay.
ted nugent
So right now, as I face you, Alex...
I couldn't be healthier.
I couldn't be more cock-locked and ready to rock the Glock around the cock, Mr. Spock.
And I killed two black bucks with my bow and arrow.
I'm literally toothpicking my teeth right now in an immeasurable, joyous celebration of venison.
dan friesen
It always sounds like he's on coke, but talks all the time about how sober he is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
It's really frustrating.
jordan holmes
It's so annoying.
dan friesen
So, anyway, a lot of this...
jordan holmes
I hate him so much!
dan friesen
A lot of this appearance on the show is about how excited Ted Nugent is that people celebrated him getting COVID.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
Because it validates him.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Because all these bad people are against him.
And I would say that it's just because he's been a dick for a really long time and no one likes him.
ted nugent
But some of my...
Yes, you did.
hoping that my friends and other bands die.
jordan holmes
They weren't shitty.
ted nugent
They shot these virus, but they did that about me.
And Alex, I know you love me.
I feel the love.
I celebrate the love.
But do you realize as bad of a mofo as I think I am, I couldn't possibly be as wonderful of a human being to deserve the hate from the Satanists that they've trended a global article celebrating my sickness and suffering is proof that they're scared to death of me.
And it makes me so happy.
dan friesen
Oh man, that's cute.
jordan holmes
No, no one is scared to death of you.
We were all just kind of hoping you'd finally go away.
dan friesen
I do think that there's something probably unhealthy about people being happy about or laughing at or celebrating when some tragedy befalls someone who is an asshole.
But I would be an idiot to not think that the reason is because Ted Nugent's a fucking idiot.
He's a fucking asshole.
It's not because anybody's afraid of him or his ideas.
He's ready to rock around the clock like Spock or whatever.
Whatever the fuck cares.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is all your fault.
It's all his fault.
Personally, like, that's the thing.
It's not necessarily schadenfreude so much as it is when somebody spends so long telling you that this thing isn't even fucking real and all of this shit.
Everybody's celebrating because fucking...
Now!
Do you get it?
Do you get it now?
And they won't.
And they won't.
So that's why the only thing you have left to do is be like, well, I guess I just hope he dies or goes away.
dan friesen
You laugh at Ted Nugent getting COVID after going to a COVID is a hoax grocery store and having a whole long period of time where you're yelling about how it's not that bad at all.
In the same way that you laugh when Ted Nugent bans guns at his concert.
It's the same kind of like, oh, that's interesting.
jordan holmes
No, it's a physical, real-world example of the, you know, me reaping versus me sowing meme.
You know, like that kind of thing.
dan friesen
So now, Ted Nugent has an interesting metaphor here that I was very confused by.
I want to see if you can make sense of this.
ted nugent
Well, I consider myself a Schindler.
And my list of Jews that I'm saving is growing so quickly and so voluminously that the brown shirts hate everything I stand for.
Now, that's a metaphor that I think the Alex Jones viewers will understand, but some people will completely miss my point, is that I have dedicated myself to being in the asset column, to be productive.
dan friesen
I do think he's right that some people will get that metaphor confused, because even when he's trying to explain it, he's explaining it that he's put himself in the asset column of life.
He's productive.
That's what he's talking about, and the way he's explaining that is he's Oscar Schindler saving Jews.
jordan holmes
What does he mean?
Does he have a physical list of people that he's acting like Schindler about, or is it just that the brown shirts don't like him?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, based on what he's describing, like being productive and being in the asset column, the only way that that really helps other people is by example, I guess.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't understand this at all.
jordan holmes
No, I don't understand that metaphor.
dan friesen
And I think it's offensive.
jordan holmes
I don't see him actively saving anyone.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
And I see him stealing the valor of an actual hero in order to prop himself up and boost his ego and confidence.
dan friesen
Yep, it was offensive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, very offensive.
dan friesen
So there's a solution to the problems in the world, and of course it's guns.
But there's another solution that Ted Nugent has, and it's more Alex's.
alex jones
What do we do when the country's awake, but they've stolen the election and are really trying to start a civil war?
ted nugent
Well, Alex, number one, we need more Alex Jones that are willing to put their, literally their lives on the line, spotlighting the cockroaches that have metastasized into every orifice, every element of America, the media, our government, Hollywood, academia.
It's literally, at their best moment, they're Marxists.
More often than not, they're literally rock solid in the Satan column.
If you look what they're doing, that the economy is all artificial.
We're selling pork bellies and orange futures that there are no groves of orange to represent.
Pigs won't have enough babies to produce the pork bellies that they're selling.
I mean, I'm just a guitar player, but I understand economics 101.
But the most important thing is to support the Alex Jones, to watch Tucker Carlson and look at the evidence and share it with our dumb friends and our dumb family members.
With all due respect, I don't have any dumb family members, and I don't have any dumb friends, but I see them wearing masks on their motorcycle.
So I know there's some really dumb people out there that have turned into walking, breathing, mouth-breathing zombies.
dan friesen
There's something that stuck out to me when I was hearing that, and it's just, he's angry.
He's really, really, really angry.
He's trying to come off with this laughing, like, I'm just a guitar player, but he's fucking so mad.
There is an affect of rage underneath everything that he's saying that is really unsettling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
He's a real psycho.
It's a real psychopath kind of thing to do.
dan friesen
It feels scary.
jordan holmes
Let's call John Ronson and see what he has to say about the psychopath test for...
I just love to go from one clip where he describes himself as Schindler...
And then to the next clip where he describes his political enemies the same way the Nazis described the Jews.
dan friesen
Boy, it's not glaring.
jordan holmes
It sure seems like a strange thing for someone like Schindler to do.
dan friesen
Awkward.
jordan holmes
Weird.
dan friesen
Awkward is not the word I would use.
jordan holmes
Almost like all Nazis now want to describe themselves as the Jews, despite the fact that they are still trying to exterminate them.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So they have, Alex and Ted, they have some commonalities, some less complementary than others.
One of them that is a little bit maybe neutral is an interest in the outdoors and hunting.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex believes that the most effective way to convert liberals over to their side is to go hunting.
And then Ted Nugent says something that I find a problem.
alex jones
Getting back to hunting, I found with leftists and liberals, I've taken a lot of Hollywood people out over the years, Mike Judge and I did a few times in Texas, they convert to shooting and hunting instantly and don't know why they were taught to hate it.
So I found the most successful way to convert leftists is if you can get them hunting or fishing.
ted nugent
There's no question about it.
I've had such a success with that from the rock and roll world that I'm in, where they've been brainwashed that somehow animals have rights in between the barbecue.
The brain-dead propaganda mushy goofiness that exists out there, but to the man and the woman, and mostly the Ted Nugent Camp for Kids children, we've baptized tens of thousands of people who were animal rights inclined because of the propaganda, and then they realize you want grass-fed, natural, organic, renewable, ultimate, healthy products.
dan friesen
I don't know if he actually has a camp for kids, but if he does, I'm gonna guess he's not all that hands-on.
jordan holmes
That should be illegal.
That should be illegal.
dan friesen
But I think that just from like a, you know...
I'm brawling out from that clip.
ted nugent
Sure.
dan friesen
He believes that animals don't have rights.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he absolutely believes that anything that is an animal is subject to man's domain over Earth.
He's a dominionist.
dan friesen
I think that there's an interesting argument to be had that animals have more rights than we ascribe to them.
Right.
jordan holmes
Because they have less agency.
dan friesen
I am not fully conversant on some of the arguments in favor of vegetarianism or veganism from a ethical perspective.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
But I think that there are some interesting things that can be discussed along those lines.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And I just look at it as, like, I live with a cat.
Celine is, like, a friend to me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I believe that she has many rights.
Now, if I were Ted Nugent...
I should only be mad if you killed Selene because she was my property.
The only thing there is a property right that's been violated as opposed to something really fucked up.
You've taken the life of this companion animal.
jordan holmes
What that also means, though, is that you have the right to kill Ted Nugent if he attacks Selene in any way.
Because property rights are sacrosanct.
dan friesen
It is strange, too, to imagine the way he would distinguish between humans and animals in terms of where do rights begin.
I think that's really troubling.
I think you could go too far with it, maybe.
jordan holmes
I would say that if you think animals have no rights, you are probably of the opinion that many people are also animals who don't have rights.
dan friesen
Or cockroaches.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So I would not enjoy anybody who's like, no rights.
That's not good.
dan friesen
And I think typically it's best to err on the side of...
Respect.
Being more sensitive to ascribing rights to animals.
I mean, they can't communicate, but they're clearly having a...
Like, a conscious experience.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
There's no way that you can have not figured out that animals have personalities by now.
dan friesen
It's pretty messed up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Ted?
jordan holmes
Yeah, Ted.
dan friesen
Anyway, fuck Ted.
jordan holmes
Also, again, there should be a restraining order keeping him away from any children.
If somebody writes his songs, that's an immediate restraining order away from children.
dan friesen
I'm choosing to believe that that was a metaphorical flourish, like rock around the clock with a sock on my head.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Glock, bock, bock.
dan friesen
That's a chicken.
Doesn't have rights.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex gets Ted out of there, and it's because he's got the biggest news in the world to break, which, I mean, he's had a bit of time to do that already.
He decided to talk to Alfie Oaks and Ted Nugent.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen.
I'm about to break the most important news in my 27 years on air.
jordan holmes
Reagan breaks union strike.
alex jones
Absolutely incredible.
And if this information does not bring the criminals to justice, if it does not reverse the operations that they've launched, then...
Things are going to get a lot darker a lot quicker.
Let me give you a summation before I go through the evidence.
dan friesen
So when Alex says something like, if this doesn't bring down the globalists, things are going to get dark fast, it's essentially him saying, I can't make up anything more sensational or antagonizing than this.
Like, the next step from this is me telling you to kill people.
I can't make it more clear.
jordan holmes
I already know this is impotent.
So you guys better glean my actual meaning from this because I'm making it very obvious.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, you get to the big news.
alex jones
Emergency alert.
Fauci project manager confesses to creating COVID-19.
Tucker Carlson began to break this last night.
I told you on the war room we'd be breaking it today.
He broke it.
That's great.
But he didn't get to the last part where he admits the project manager.
jordan holmes
Because legally, they couldn't get to that last fight.
alex jones
They didn't just go get the five viruses.
They combined them for a vaccine.
But to make the vaccine, you've got to make the pathogen of something that never existed that no one would ever make.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think Tucker didn't cover that because it's not in the interview.
Yeah.
So, this next clip I thought was really funny because he's talking about Tucker's segment about this.
And while he's talking, Alex is kind of being a little wishy-washy about whether or not Tucker's segment's being censored.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think it is this, like...
All right, I'm posting a 15-minute long video that's clearly owned by another media organization.
I better come up with a good reason why that's okay.
jordan holmes
Something.
alex jones
And now Tucker Carlson has come out in a 14-minute report last night that they're not posting to YouTube, so we posted the Bandot video and exposed this.
The censored Tucker Carlson report.
Anthony Fauci let the coronavirus pandemic happen.
Why isn't there a criminal investigation?
That's the Fox News headline.
And Fox has the report, but it's not on YouTube.
There it is, censored.
See the Tucker Carlson Wulon Lab report.
Fox News won't let you see.
And that's, the crew's great.
I didn't give them a headline.
I did say the headline this morning.
I actually said, say, see the censored report.
See the censored Tucker Carlson Anthony Fauci.
So just change the headline, please, to censored.
And then this headline.
Overhead shot, please.
This headline, right here, this headline, Tucker Carlson, Anthony Fauci let the coronavirus pandemic happen.
Why isn't there a criminal investigation?
Okay?
This is a censored report.
In the sub-headline, you explain that Fox isn't posting this online.
They may have changed that since I went live.
dan friesen
Oh, well, maybe.
Maybe they've posted it.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
All right.
All right.
Get at it.
Again, jerk-off motion in the picture-in-picture.
dan friesen
A hundred percent.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So Alex ends up talking a little bit about this story, about the interview on the This Week in Virology.
It's just, this is tragic.
alex jones
So here it is.
Peter.
Dasga, president of EcoHealth Alliance, starting in 2014, was project lead on six NIH projects with focus on the emergence of novel zoonetic coronaviruses, COVID, with bad origins.
Some of the project's work was performed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
And we're going to show you him saying that.
It's an hour-long interview.
dan friesen
Alex is just stumbling over everything.
It's not an hour-long interview.
It's a 35-minute interview.
jordan holmes
This is not good.
dan friesen
Everything is just...
Even by the rules of rounding up, you're going to 40. It feels like a guy trying to climb a rock, but it's just covered in slime or something.
It's just not working.
jordan holmes
No, it is very much like he doesn't understand at all what he's talking about.
And so they're just like...
We don't have much else on the show today.
Clearly, all we could get is fucking Alfie and a disgusting Ted Nugent.
So, fuck it.
Let's air Tucker stuff, and I'll just kind of riff through it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and really oversell it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he talks a little bit more about some details, and it's, again, not accurate.
alex jones
The Six Project receive a total funding of $3,748,715.
from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease that's what Fauci is the head of and we've got all the grants and all that right here So Alex is reading some information here, but he doesn't really understand any of it.
dan friesen
The amount that he's talking about, that $3 million plus, that's the amount of grant funding that EcoHealth Alliance has received since 2014 from the NIAID for a project that was meant to assess the risk of bat coronaviruses spurred on by the SARS and MERS outbreaks and the need to prepare.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
One of the findings that this research that was funded by this grant arrived at was they found a number of bat-borne SARS-like coronaviruses, and interestingly, they also found, quote, Yeah.
and discovered evidence of previous spillover of viruses that had previously gone unnoticed.
If the particular virus had been different in any of those cases, or something had gone slightly differently, people had interacted differently, any of those instances could have been the start of an outbreak.
Alex's main piece of evidence he's presenting here, these grants and this study, it actually makes me think the opposite of what his conclusion is.
jordan holmes
I'm blown away.
Like, this goes back to the COVID payments from Medicare, where it's like, they get 16 grand!
Like, I'm blown away that you think you can make me worried about a conspiracy theory where it's like, it cost the globalists and the devil 3 million to kill everyone on Earth.
If that's how much it costs to kill us, why do I have...
I have to deal with all these fucking billionaires!
They don't need that money?
They could kill me with a few million?
dan friesen
That's nothing!
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's that part of your brain that just doesn't quite...
You know, three million dollars is a whole lot of money.
jordan holmes
It seems like an insane amount.
Like, I will never see three million dollars.
But yeah, that's nothing.
dan friesen
In terms of a research grant that was over the course of 2014 to 2020.
jordan holmes
Seven years, yeah.
dan friesen
It's not that...
It's not that much in terms of what research actually costs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, for a business...
If you want to say that a conspiracy theory about this is a huge deal, over seven years, a business would probably be disappointed with revenues if they were only at that amount.
dan friesen
Alex would be disappointed with...
jordan holmes
Alex would be...
Glorious with revenues if he didn't get a three million in five years, in seven years or whatever.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, I just found myself incredibly uninspired by this conspiracy, but I was inspired by this, which we've heard before, but I got to thinking about it a little more.
alex jones
I was talking to Dave Mustaine one time, I'm not name dropping, and he said, I want you to help me write a new album with songs like Four Horsemen I wrote.
And I just looked at him, grabbed him on my car here in Austin, and I said, dude, this is a very surreal day.
We just had dinner with Willie Nelson.
And I said, I think that's up to you to write that album.
And he did write that album.
jordan holmes
What a great story.
That was a great story.
That was on par with, I was walking down on New York City Avenue and I saw Ben Affleck!
And I was like, hey Ben!
And he was like, hey!
dan friesen
Dave Mustaine was really drunk around me one time.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
It's the same story.
That sucks!
dan friesen
I'm kind of disappointed because it sounds kind of like Alex is trying to claim that Dave Mustaine wanted him to help write songs.
jordan holmes
So respects Alex as a songwriter.
dan friesen
But he wants him to help write songs that would be on the album that had Four Horsemen on it.
And that was Kill Them All by Metallica, which came out in 1983 when Alex was nine.
I wish that was what he was actually claiming.
But it's like, no, I want you to help me write songs that are like that.
Let's get a burrito.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't imagine anybody turning and looking at Alex sober and being like, hey, I want you in an enclosed space with me writing songs to go.
dan friesen
Alex, you're basically the Jim Steinman of your generation.
I need you to bring this song to life.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on.
Get Taylor Swift's producers out here.
Get those Swedes.
dan friesen
Get the Matrix.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get him going!
Where's the dream when you need him for Alex's next album?
dan friesen
So, I think we've been talking a little bit along the way through this episode that it just feels like Alex doesn't have anything to grab onto.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It feels really bleh in terms of the conspiracy.
Here's two and a half minutes of Alex saying nothing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Basically just kind of dancing around, but he doesn't know anything to latch onto.
jordan holmes
Terrible.
alex jones
This is Hands Down.
The biggest crop of awakening.
The biggest hall of truth.
The biggest wound to the globalists.
The biggest opportunity to deal a death blow to these people politically.
To their agenda.
To kill their agenda.
And I mean, the dominoes start falling.
You're going to have Nuremberg trials.
I mean, there's going to be people getting hung.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Because that's what happens when you launch a bio-attack.
You get marched up there and they pull a switch.
Trap door opens up and you fall about two feet.
jordan holmes
You're a fan of Assad.
alex jones
That's what happens.
And your legs start kicking and you take a dump down the side of your leg.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
I don't like death.
I don't like killing people.
I don't like starting to fight with these murderers.
But they started to fight with us.
And I'm just telling you, like I said in the first hour, that we don't want any violence against Fauci or Bill Gates or the New World Order from vigilantes.
We want to take our governments and our countries back, and we want to have them indicted with all the evidence, and we want to see them up on Nuremberg 2. And that's what last weekend I had, the weekend before last, I had Dr. Francis Boyle on, and he laid all that as well.
The punishment for what they've done is death.
And so I don't say that to be dramatic.
I don't say that to stick my head in the mouth of a lion.
These guys are hyenas, but still, they can bite.
I do it because I will not be a coward.
jordan holmes
Coward.
alex jones
And I want to thank God for your prayers, listeners, and I want to thank God for God taking action.
This is devastating.
Devastating.
Devastating.
There's no way to describe how much trouble they're in, and I can tell you this, they're never going to get out of this now.
One way or another, This is a political death blow to what these guys did.
They're megalomaniacs, though.
They were mad at Trump.
They were mad at Bolsonaro.
They were mad at Boris Johnson, who's a follower, but thought he was winning Brexit and could do what he wanted.
They launched this to bankrupt the small economy, to bankrupt the hardworking people, to let the global banks and big box stores take over with big tech.
And they had it cooked up, and they had it ready, and they did it in China so they could release it, so they had plausible deniability, and so it was an attack on humanity.
dan friesen
None of that has anything to do with any of the bombshell stories.
It's just rambling and ranting about nothing, assuming the conclusion has already been made.
It's time filler.
It's nothing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's brutal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's brutal.
Also, if Alex says megalomaniac, if he calls somebody a megalomaniac and doesn't say it takes one to know one, then it's disqualified.
It doesn't count.
If you do say it takes one to know one, maybe I'll listen to you because you are absolutely one of them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But I think what's going on, generally speaking, is that Alex doesn't have a good handle on this story.
He knows a few details.
He's already spent those.
So you spend a bunch of time rambling about, you know, like, Fauci will hang.
And, oh, we've all proven it.
It's all this great.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Because I think what's really interesting to the audience isn't really the nitty-gritty details or anything like that.
It's an emotional experience.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex is giving them an emotional experience, and that is that this is the end.
We have won.
jordan holmes
Details are bad whenever you won.
dan friesen
But we've won.
There's no way they're going to get out of this one.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
dan friesen
Like the Duke boys.
They're in trouble.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
The Duke boys tended to get out of them.
dan friesen
Not the globalists, though.
unidentified
Oh, that's fair.
alex jones
This is a big deal.
And I'm here to tell you that I have never felt so much fulfillment.
And I wouldn't call it satisfaction.
This is a horrible thing.
We're in a global war.
The globalists are at war with humanity.
This is a terrible thing happening.
But I've been around 47 years, and I have never...
Never felt so much satisfaction in my life.
Except maybe a few times where I was getting my ass absolutely beat.
And I dug down deep and turned on the Ben Grimm power and, you know, broke that guy's jaw and saw his head at the ground.
And I wasn't happy I'd hurt him bad, but I was happy that I'd won the fight.
It was just a feeling of just satisfaction.
That you just, you did it.
And you reached down and you turned it on.
Ed, risking my life, you risking your life, everything we've done together, man.
The satisfaction right now.
Because I can tell you, they're not going to survive this.
And everything they've done to all these people, these millions they've killed, all the people they've starved to death with the lockdown, they're going to get retribution.
They're going to be avenged.
dan friesen
So Alex is basically on this tip where he's like, the Nuremberg trials will start in June.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He might as well be planning them and getting a Twitch stream ready for the Nuremberg trials.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this really does seem like an army building.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
It's giving the good news of the victory.
We have won.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
The globalists are done now that this video from a year ago has been talked about.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound true to me.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't.
But that's the emotional experience that Alex is wishing to create and convey because he's got nothing else.
He's got nothing else.
And this news doesn't really lend itself all that well to, like, be very scared.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It is interesting the, like, there is a ratio between emotional manipulation and actual details for right-wing people.
Because...
You can't just give them information.
That doesn't work.
You have to have emotional manipulation, and you can't let information get in the way of that emotional manipulation, but you also can't have nothing.
Like, this is nothing.
dan friesen
It's a lot of nothing.
jordan holmes
It's nothing, you know?
dan friesen
It was infuriating to listen to, in the sense that it was kind of like...
I would describe it as being like eating a cinnamon twist from Taco Bell, but without any of the flavor.
jordan holmes
I was about to say empty calories and no taste.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
dan friesen
There's no cinnamon sugar on it, but it's that same...
jordan holmes
You got the texture of what you were supposed to eat, but there's nothing to it.
It's just mush.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And as somebody who really does get excited when there's middle-aged mice studies to look into.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Whenever there's something like the Spars document to look into.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I find this to be a little bit unsatisfying, and I take it personally.
I resent it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think that Alex's quarterly job evaluation is going to go well.
Just from my perspective, having information about how the boss feels, which is Springsteen, of course.
dan friesen
Q3 is going to be rough.
jordan holmes
It's going to be terrible.
He's gonna have to get his numbers up.
dan friesen
If you want a sense of how real a piece of news is to Alex...
I think one of the things you should take stock of is how much of the time of the show is actually spent talking about that bombshell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Is this such a bombshell that you don't go away and talk to Alfie Oaks and Ted Nugent forever?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is this such a bombshell that you don't, I don't know, spend the end of your show just talking about nothing?
And then cover this for a little while.
alex jones
I want to play a short clip from the War Room.
Not Owen Schroyer, 3 to 6 p.m., but Steve Bannon's War Room.
And I know Steve Bannon and Roger Stone have had their fights.
I don't want to be in a fight with anybody.
I've had my issues with Bannon, but he's obviously a smart guy.
But he and his host, co-host, made a statement about Alex Jones.
People used to think he was crazy, but now he's been proven right.
Well, that's how it is when you're ahead of your time.
But it's not about me being ahead of my time.
It's about people realizing that we don't make this stuff up.
We really tirelessly research and we have a wide spectrum understanding of the world.
We're not specialists, we're generalists in that we really study how the globalists operate and we know how they do things so we know how to counter them and we know how to beat them.
Everything should be about the globalists because they're the ones in control of civilization taking us to a very bad place.
And so that's what I'm getting at here.
But it is good to see it trend yesterday.
Alex Jones trended on Twitter again that Alex Jones was right.
And you can just type in my name or you can do it all over many other places.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
So a little bit of Alex Jones' media attention gets some coverage here.
I just feel like he's such an insecure dick.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's so sad.
How many times have we heard him talk about hating Steve Bannon?
He's a fucking worm.
jordan holmes
He's the worst.
He's the devil.
He's gone to the globalists.
He's part of their team.
dan friesen
He was so pissed off when Steve Bannon named his show War Room.
It was an attack on InfoWars.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
He was trying to take away all their...
dan friesen
Hey, but look, he's a smart guy because he said something nice about me.
And let's spend ten minutes on my show talking about how someone said something about me.
What an asshole.
jordan holmes
Not hard.
So insecure.
Hey, Alex isn't a bad guy.
Well, I wish I hadn't screamed that everybody should kill him.
It turns out that, you know, he said I wasn't a bad guy, so, you know, he's a pretty cool dude.
unidentified
He gets it.
He gets it.
jordan holmes
Have you ever seen...
dan friesen
Bill Maher's basically secret Tucker.
jordan holmes
Have you ever seen, like, a breaking news story or a bombshell report?
And then all the news organizations who normally have, like, live blogs and there's constant media coverage just kind of stop and they're like, can we just ramble around a little bit?
We just gotta have a little fun, you know?
This bombshell story is fine, but, you know, I'm just gonna talk a little shit with my buddy over here, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, Wolf Blitzer derails the show, the Situation Room.
For a while because someone tweeted about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so Brian Stelter is just all of a sudden like, hey guys, you know, I met Willie Nelson one time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we went out for dinner one night.
You know, he's like, hey, you're a pretty good songwriter.
dan friesen
Yeah, Brian Stelter is like, ah, one time I was hanging out with Jumbawamba and they wanted me to write an album.
The fuck?
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, and even just, like, let's think of an even closer analog.
Imagine Brian Stelter taking time to yell about Alex Jones's appearance.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So sad.
jordan holmes
Look at how big, fat Alex's neck is!
Isn't that great?
Isn't this great content that everybody tuned in to see?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I feel like the job has not been done, and Alex doubles down on not doing his job.
alex jones
All right, folks.
I meant to take calls today.
I didn't.
Paul Watson's coming up.
I got a lot to hit before the show's over in 22 minutes or before my part of the broadcast is over.
But let me do this because it's so powerful.
I aired it during that little No Man's Land first five of the second hour, but this is really an important report.
dan friesen
He's playing a special report for the second time in this show.
He's replaying a special report.
That's how little he cares about the story that he's covering.
jordan holmes
This is kind of amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is a complete abdication of any even pretense of work.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
To me, every indication is like, I don't know enough to competently even riff on this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I do want to cover it because Tucker covered it last night and I'll be way behind if I wait until tomorrow.
jordan holmes
This is the bullshit that you get from a shitty boss where he's always...
Any mistake you make...
Like, perhaps not being able to figure out how the phone system works for 20 years.
He's always screaming at you.
But then whenever he comes to work with this bullshit, you don't get to yell back at him that he's wasting everybody's fucking time.
Somebody should have, like, a button where they get to scream, Hey!
Screw you!
You suck at this job!
dan friesen
I think that's what our podcast is.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fair.
dan friesen
We don't have a button, though.
Alex spent some more time talking about the pipeline hack.
And I want to remind you that he's always right.
His gut is very strong.
jordan holmes
This is not going to sound good.
alex jones
This ain't hard!
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
I'd give it about a 95% chance the globalists did the pipeline shutdown.
5% chance somebody got pissed they shut down Keystone inside and is doing that to show everybody the dependence on pipelines.
95% it's a globalist.
5% chance if I'm wrong it was done by people pissed off with the Keystone being shut down to show people how dependent we are.
But see, that's in a logical world you'd do that and then maybe we'll understand.
But no, there's no logic here.
dan friesen
Wait, what?
95% chance globalist false flag.
5% chance false flag carried out by people trying to remind us that pipelines are important.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's an educational false flag.
jordan holmes
So if I understand correctly...
dan friesen
There's a 0% chance it was hackers.
jordan holmes
The logical...
In a logical world, naturally somebody on the inside would be furious about people shutting down the Keystone Pipeline.
So it only makes sense that they would then shut down a different pipeline...
dan friesen
As an educational lesson.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, hey...
Be careful what you wish for.
That's exactly what's going on.
dan friesen
Some people might call that terrorism.
jordan holmes
That would be technically terrorism, yes.
dan friesen
It might be attacking infrastructure.
To teach a lesson.
jordan holmes
To, let's say, spread fear.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it's interesting to see the way that Alex's brain kind of comes up with possibilities.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's just a terrorist.
dan friesen
Anything has to be fake.
Everything has to be fake.
Just what kind of fake is it?
jordan holmes
Yep.
It's very stupid.
Dick.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Alex is ranting, because, again, just fill in time.
alex jones
The left want to be homeless.
They want their children brain damaged.
They want to be dead.
Everybody I know that went and got the vaccine, had strokes, they love it, they tell me.
Or their kids died.
They're in the news.
Oh, my kid died.
It's a wonderful thing.
It's a happy thing.
That's how all this crap works, ladies and gentlemen.
And it goes on and on and on and on and on and on from there.
Hey, guys, I just hit my wireless headset and knocked my audio off, and I forget how this works.
Got a lot of settings.
Somebody come in here and just take this little beauty for me and punch it up where it works.
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Somebody scream at him.
alex jones
Now, it's right there on the other table.
I can bring it to you if you'd like.
Just right over there.
Thank you.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, We are here fighting the new world order as hard as we can.
And we can't do it without your support.
And I sell you things that I know that you really, really, really, really need.
And so we go out and get the best horrible food company with the highest quality for the lowest price.
We get it ready for everybody.
Just bring it on to me.
Thank you.
Appreciate that.
And thank you, sir.
And we bring you those products.
So we can get money to stay on air and sell you something you need.
It's called symbiotic relationship, a 360 win and non-zero sum game.
It's how I operate.
unidentified
And so you've got 2020 prices until tomorrow night.
alex jones
And then it's going to go to its regular price.
It's still a great deal.
And they've told me in the next two weeks or so, they're going to have to go up in price.
So you're not just going to not get the sale.
It's going to have to go up in price because the whole thing is shutting down and the supply chains are breaking down and the pipelines are being turned off because we're under attack.
dan friesen
Be afraid!
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
You see the transition generally from scary narrative into ad, but then you saw the reverse, where it's the ad leads into terrorizing the audience.
unidentified
Yes, of course.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
dan friesen
I have all this food for you, and the price is good now, but hey, tomorrow the price is going to go to regular, and actually I know that in two weeks prices are going up even more, and also everything is going down because we're under attack.
Get your food now or die.
jordan holmes
Listen, all I'm saying is that I am going to take you hostage with fear.
And then you will give me money.
And that's why you should be afraid!
dan friesen
Yep.
Be very, very afraid.
jordan holmes
Be very afraid.
alex jones
I'm getting more storable food for the office.
I'm getting more at my house.
I ordered more last week.
I told my wife, go get all the little delectable canned goods and things that save, and some of the gourmet storable foods as well.
Just get ready.
And my parents have got a trailer out on a little ranch.
I've got solar and all the stuff that's gone in, and I've got to...
Get a little shack or something for me, too, because it's going to be like Road Warrior if we don't turn this around, and there's not much time left.
jordan holmes
What's the shack for?
alex jones
So, InfowarStore.com.
dan friesen
It's a funky little shack.
unidentified
Um...
dan friesen
Look, I am sick and tired of Schrodinger's bug-out location.
jordan holmes
Sure, I know, right?
dan friesen
I am so sick of it.
I don't care for this nonsense of I have a compound or maybe I should make one because the world's so dangerous and scary now.
It's a will-they-won't-they that is infuriating.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just get together with Rachel, Ross.
Come on, buddy.
dan friesen
Also, here's the thing that I want to bring attention to.
At the end of this episode, Alex is talking about how we need to be really scared, gotta buy that food, gotta bug out location, and all this.
Half an hour earlier, he was laughing about how fulfilled he feels because the globalists are done for, thanks to this bombshell that he can't quite get himself to really cover in any detail.
That is incongruent.
It's nonsense.
And the reason is because...
The emotional experience of defeating the globalists is something that he wants you to, you know, it keeps people having fun, and then at the end you've got to scare people because that's how the money comes in.
No one makes money off defeating the globalists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's terrorist edging.
dan friesen
Yes.
So annoying.
jordan holmes
I would like some sort of...
Man, you just get caught up in that.
It just rewires your ability to process.
If you're just so emotionally overstimulated all the time with no actual release, it just drives you insane.
It's insane.
It's borderline solitary confinement.
It's awful.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that's the...
I don't know.
I don't know what else to say, but yeah, it's a mess.
jordan holmes
It's kind of weird how you can sell stuff because of that.
Isn't that a weird aspect of our biology, is that somehow all the way along the line, evolution has led to people being like, be afraid and buy my shit!
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think that's the American dream.
Snake oil salesman and what have you.
jordan holmes
There is a certain American aspect of the snake oil salesman.
dan friesen
It's very Americana, the way Alex is manipulating people in order to sell them bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's hard.
It's hard not to think if we ever did eradicate these type of snake oil salesmen that we wouldn't also have writers and different people making nostalgic stories about the snake oil con man going from town to town.
dan friesen
Just to be clear, when you say eradicate, you're talking about regulate out of existence as opposed to...
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
This is not a cockroach system.
We don't have the snake oil salesman anymore.
At some long distant point in the future.
People will feel nostalgic for them.
dan friesen
Yeah, of course.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
Because we're insane.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, I look forward to going back to the past because I find myself incredibly frustrated by this asshole.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't want to hear about another...
Goddamn bombshell that's disappointing.
I want to go back to the past when news was measured and sometimes guests were combative and everything was what it was.
And not this overly dramatic nonsense every single day.
It's just the candle is burning too bright.
No, it's bad.
Anyway, we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight.net.
Go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook if you'd like.
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people.
dan friesen
For sure.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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