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April 23, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
01:48:09
#551: April 20-21, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the modern day of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex prepares for and deals with the Chauvin verdict, reveals that maybe Bill Maher has been a good guy all along, and gets caught up in the need to whistle.

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alex jones
19:59
d
dan friesen
50:17
j
jordan holmes
27:11
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robert barnes
01:33
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harrison smith
00:26
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norm pattis
00:37
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Oh, a couple of neckbeards indeed.
harrison smith
literally just make stuff up they don't ever talk about what alex jones actually talked about they don't actually say what he actually says they don't actually delve into his sources of information mr freeson mr freeson i was live you numskulls they're in league with some sort of cult leader called selene knowledge fight mocking info wars every single day it's really just incredible it's almost hard to comprehend.
unidentified
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like Cerepter, Donald Trump, and Cepaches, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones and his sources.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Shout out to DJ Dan Arkey.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Thank you so much for whipping up that fourth or fifth We're going to close the episode with a little special DJ Dan Arkey track.
So stay tuned for that at the end of the episode.
jordan holmes
It's incredible.
dan friesen
But yeah, hey, what's up?
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
I have a little thinking to do.
jordan holmes
I will tell you.
You know, had some stressful times the past couple of days.
And then last night, my partner was like, I'm just vibrating with fury and stress and all this stuff.
And she's like, you know what you should do?
You should take a bath.
So, I took a downright...
Ecstatic bath.
Absolute...
dan friesen
This makes me furious.
jordan holmes
Incredible.
So what I did, I used a whole thing of bath salts.
That's twice as much as you're supposed to use.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I mean, depends on the size of the bag.
jordan holmes
Deep relaxation is what it was called.
I had that.
I had the Cubs game on my computer.
I could watch that.
And I had my vape pen to my left hand.
It was the best.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
It was the best.
dan friesen
I'm happy for you, although this really, really sets me off because I do feel like...
jordan holmes
You don't own baths!
dan friesen
No, no, no, that's not why.
I'm happy for you to enjoy a bath.
But I do have visceral memories of me telling you, yeah, baths are great, and you judging me for it.
jordan holmes
Of course I did.
dan friesen
And now your partner comes in and she's like, hey, come on, why don't you take a bath?
unidentified
We both haven't matured over the years.
jordan holmes
I've come more towards your direction on baths.
dan friesen
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I guess, um...
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot, buddy?
dan friesen
What would my bright spot be?
I don't know, man.
unidentified
I've...
dan friesen
I don't know.
I guess not caring?
Is that kind of a bright spot?
jordan holmes
I would say that's kind of a bright spot.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit.
Like, okay, here's what I would say, I guess, in terms of a bright spot.
jordan holmes
Hey, there's nothing left to lose.
dan friesen
There was a, you know, I had a lot of anxiety about the prospect of Knowledge Fight getting noticed.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Visually by Infowars.
It was something that was kind of, it was always in the back of my mind as like being a little bit like, oh, that's kind of scary.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
Nothing happened.
Nobody cares.
It's fantastic.
It's great.
Best case scenario.
We got a new theme song out of it.
That's all we needed.
dan friesen
Yeah, so some kind of fear that I had about the acknowledgement.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And granted, maybe I'll be killed by an info warrior tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
But at this point, you know, there's been a couple of harassing emails, and they're all from the same email address.
I found the guy's address really easily.
jordan holmes
So if you're listening, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah, congrats.
Just do a little bit more security.
Don't send threatening emails from your personal email account.
jordan holmes
Try a proton mail account.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Something like that would be good.
jordan holmes
Go for it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I'm not too worried about this nonsense.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
I think a lot of people are probably tuning in and hoping to hear, like, sort of a deconstruction of that.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
That's kind of, you know, that's kind of a big deal.
And I think they will be...
jordan holmes
Everybody likes feuds, you know?
unidentified
Sure.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think they will be sorely disappointed.
jordan holmes
Super.
dan friesen
I have no interest in really talking about Harrison Smith's breakdown.
jordan holmes
Not at all.
dan friesen
And part of the reason is because he wasn't critiquing our show.
He was critiquing an article that we didn't write.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
No, I don't give a shit.
Give a shit, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, I figured the only thing we can do is move ahead and do the stuff that we do.
And that is, we're going to be talking about April 20th and 21st, 2021, Blackjack.
jordan holmes
Oh, wow, man.
Now, you see, you were doing Updand in 2021.
unidentified
I almost did.
jordan holmes
You almost did.
dan friesen
I almost did.
jordan holmes
You can't surprise me with a bit change mid-bit.
dan friesen
I surprised myself.
Yeah, so we're just going to do business as usual.
We're going to be talking about...
And I was going to...
My birthday is this weekend.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
And so one of the things that I was going to do is I was going to treat myself to going back to 2003.
But I just felt like, you know, we've got the issue with the Chauvin trial.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think that it probably is more important that we go ahead and talk about that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And take care of some of this present-day business.
jordan holmes
Not a bad one.
dan friesen
And what better present I can give myself than to do some work?
jordan holmes
As usual.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we're going to get into business on this, but before we do, we'll take a little moment to say, hey-o, what's up to some new wonks?
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Paul Joseph Watson's laminated map of solitude.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Hey-o, Paul Joseph Watson's etc.
Rude.
dan friesen
Next, Bigsby Smalls should point out that's a dog.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Heyo, Bigsby Smalls!
dan friesen
Next, Rachel.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Heyo, Rachel!
Every time you shake your head, it gives me hope.
Like, I'm fed by it.
I'm growing stronger when you shake your head.
dan friesen
Next, this one's actually, there's two possible names, so you could choose which one you prefer at the end of it.
First is the most delicious hamburger in the galaxy.
And the second is Simon's Disappointed Dad.
First or second?
jordan holmes
I'm gonna have to go with second, just for non-personal reasons.
dan friesen
Alright, Simon's Disappointed Dad, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk!
jordan holmes
Oh, Simon's disappointed dad!
dan friesen
I gave you eyebrow raise that time.
jordan holmes
I know.
I mean, it might be the last time.
dan friesen
Next, it's pronounced A-T-A-T, not At-At.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Hey-o!
Mr. At-At Imperial Walker!
dan friesen
That was straight at you, Jordan.
Yes, it was.
And I'd like to give a little technocrat shout-out to a couple of folks out there.
Tom and Kelsey, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
Or two technocrats in a pod.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thanks so much, Tom and Kelsey.
unidentified
Yes!
dan friesen
Two peas in a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
I would call them a dick.
Tick in the force.
Policy wonk force.
Ah, no.
Lost it.
Lost it.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I was trying.
dan friesen
So, hey, this weekend, not only my birthday coming up, I'm very excited about that, but also, I should tell you that coming to theaters and VOD, the Mortal Kombat, we're sponsored by Mortal Kombat.
jordan holmes
We are not sponsored by Mortal Kombat.
We are not sponsored by Mortal Kombat.
dan friesen
Jordan, Jordan, Shang Tsung got in touch with me.
jordan holmes
He sent you an email from shangsong at gmail.com.
It's a real threatening email.
dan friesen
All this publicity we've been getting.
jordan holmes
You will take your soul.
dan friesen
All this publicity we've been getting.
He's like, guys, gotta promote the movie.
No.
Also this weekend, though.
Very exciting.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now, I want to call myself out on this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Just right off the top.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Naturally.
dan friesen
I made an incomplete note about what kind of shout out this is.
So, on the 24th, this Saturday.
This is Shan and Jay, right?
They either have an anniversary or they're getting married.
But that could be your zero-eth anniversary.
jordan holmes
Or they're going to a dog marriage.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
It's one of the two.
It's either their wedding is this Saturday or it's their anniversary.
I think it's their wedding.
jordan holmes
All right.
If this is your anniversary, cut this out.
Play it next year.
If it's your wedding, cut it out and play it at your goddamn wedding.
dan friesen
Congratulations either way.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
Congratulations either way!
dan friesen
And thank you for helping me remind myself I've got to write more specific notes.
jordan holmes
Jeez.
I like the idea that you...
Like when you said I wrote an incomplete note, I had this mental picture of like that...
That Civil War note where the guy is being murdered and it's like, ah, right at the end.
That's what I was looking for.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today, like I said, 20th and 21st of April.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But before we get into today's episode, we have a Out of Context drop.
And it comes in the form of the game show that is taking over the country.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is...
Who is Alex gonna tell to burn in hell?
jordan holmes
Is that taking over the country?
dan friesen
We've done it a couple times.
jordan holmes
Can I get R, S, T, L, N, and E?
dan friesen
None.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
None of those.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine.
I was gonna try.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You're going for Wheel of Fortune shit?
jordan holmes
I was going for Wheel of Fortune shit.
dan friesen
None of those letters.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Do you have a guess?
jordan holmes
None of those letters?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Burn in hell, CIA!
Burn in hell!
jordan holmes
Damn it!
unidentified
How was I supposed to know that it was those letters?
dan friesen
Well, it wasn't any of the ones you said.
jordan holmes
It wasn't any of the ones I said.
dan friesen
So he wants the CIA to burn in hell.
jordan holmes
Man, I am bad at...
Wheel of Fortune.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talk in here.
We're going to start on the 20th.
And this is a day where, of course, in the afternoon, the Derek Chauvin trial's verdict comes out.
But there's a good bit of anticipation surrounding that.
People were kind of aware that closing arguments had been done and the jurors had been deliberating.
And Maxine Waters had come out and made some comments that Alex isn't happy about.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course not.
dan friesen
This will take up quite a bit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But he doesn't have a problem with black women speaking.
Not at all.
No, no, no.
Not a pattern.
alex jones
It doesn't matter in the scheme of things about George Floyd or about Chauvin.
They're both humans.
They both have red blood.
God made them both.
I mean, they matter to God, but to the globalists, they don't matter.
They're just pawns in this game.
I guarantee you, George Floyd didn't want to get addicted to methamphetamine and to...
Fentanyl.
And I guarantee you the cop that turned out was friends with him and worked at the same club with him didn't want to kill him.
But they're humans.
And so we're flawed and things go wrong and bad things happen.
But now the media can sit there and divide and conquer us and control us.
Turns out they've gone to the former home.
I'll cover it next segment.
Guys got my article out there in the printer.
unidentified
Thanks.
alex jones
Of one of the defense witnesses.
Went to his home, hadn't lived there in two years, threw a dead pig head on his property, on the former property, and spread blood all over it.
We'll show you all that coming up next segment.
There's some of it right there.
Barry Brode's former residence.
And they went to the other jurors' homes because CBS doxxed them yesterday.
CBS said, here's who they are, so you can go harass them.
dan friesen
The Maxine Waters commentary is going to be a major part of this, but where Alex begins is this pig's head and the idea of CBS doxing folks.
So I've seen that story reported in other outlets than Infowars, and I'm going to go ahead and assume that this act of vandalism towards the defense witness's former home did happen more or less as described, although Alex does still seem to be embellishing it a tiny bit, like blood all over.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, come on, it's a better story.
dan friesen
To be clear, I am against this kind of thing, and I feel like it's counterproductive to the ability of trials to proceed.
According to an NBC News article, the people responsible are being sought and are, quote, accused of felony vandalism.
So there's a decent chance someone's going to get in trouble for that.
That being said, I would be remiss if I just let Alex play this game of fake outrage.
In November 2020, Roger Stone was on trial, and in case you don't remember, Alex spent a couple days on his show trying to dox potential jurors in that case.
Alex didn't even know for sure that the person he was naming on his show was actually even a potential juror in Roger's case, but he was still going to go ahead and put a target on them.
alex jones
And so nobody else will release it.
That appears to be who it is with about 99%.
Probability.
dan friesen
Oh, hey, it just appears to be who this person is.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
I just still really feel like once you have put out a bounty on somebody, you don't get to be like, and now they're mistreating the jurors!
You don't get to do that.
dan friesen
After you do this whole big thing where it's like, this is the name of Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yeah.
No, you lose.
You lose forever.
dan friesen
Goodbye.
Naturally, Alex Fent felt a little bit insecure about his actions because it's a very clear attempt at jury tampering.
So he even addressed that.
And then Media Matters goes, Jones should get arrested for jury tampering and harassing jurors.
alex jones
It's completely legal and lawful when someone's a public figure.
What if Brad Pitt was on the jury?
What if Obama was on the jury?
What if it was Robert Mueller?
What if it was Hillary Clinton?
What if it was Chelsea Clinton?
Oh, she got called.
Oh, she's on it.
Oh, Chelsea Clinton's going to sit on the jury for Roger Stone.
You'd say, that's crazy.
Get her off.
It's the same thing.
It's one of their minions.
And we've got her name.
And we're going to release it.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
Because that's what the press does.
I know there's a war on the press.
dan friesen
It's an interesting strategy to claim this juror that Alex was talking about as a public figure on the level of Brad Pitt or Hillary Clinton, but that was just desperation talking because he knew that Roger was guilty as shit.
jordan holmes
No, she had a lot of hits in the late 90s.
She was really killing it.
She got her big break with Thelma and Louise.
dan friesen
It's so convenient whenever you can just redefine public figure to be suspected minion of my imaginary enemy.
jordan holmes
Anyone that I despise.
dan friesen
If the people who threw a pig's head at that house had thrown it at the house of a juror, or if one of the jurors in the Chauvin trial was being targeted, then I wouldn't be okay with that at all.
That would fall into the same kind of category as Alex's behavior, but what did happen is a little bit of a gray area.
And again, I'm still against it, but the person whose former house it was was a witness for the defense who had already given their testimony.
You could argue that it was a retaliatory vandalism, and I suspect that's why it's being considered a felony, but I do think that that's different than trying to...
very publicly doing like six months ago yes very much so CBS also didn't dox anyone the local Minnesota Minnesota affiliate published an article that discusses the jurors broadly speaking just vaguely in in details like their age and information about their perspectives CBS This is not the same thing as what Alex did.
If Alex can show actual instances of people showing up at the jurors' homes, he should do that.
But I can't find instances or any evidence of that being a real thing.
I suspect he's just taking that defense witness story and then making up another story on top of it.
Because it's more fun.
jordan holmes
I'm a huge fan of people who have, you know, really taken to heart all of the historical lessons about intimidating witnesses being a thing that puts you on the side of good.
I think that's really, you know, history judges people for intimidating witnesses very positively.
That's kind of history's thing.
dan friesen
So, Roger, when he was on trial, Alex did this whole thing.
This whole nonsensical display on his show.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Interestingly, he doesn't bring this up when talking about the efforts that some people have made to intimidate jurors.
jordan holmes
That is surprising.
dan friesen
Instead, on his show here on April 20th, he's just talking about how when he's been in trial situations, the globalists have tried, or I'm sorry, the media has tried to intimidate his journalists.
alex jones
I've been involved in jury trials.
I've been involved in situations we later learned where the media got involved in contact with the jurors.
And said, if you don't do the right thing, we're going to dox your ass.
That's how corrupt the corporate media is.
They're not media.
They're terrorists.
They're the enemies of this country.
dan friesen
So I guess Alex thinks he's a terrorist.
jordan holmes
Yep.
I think Alex should think he's a terrorist.
dan friesen
It's interesting.
So, like I said, one of the big things that goes throughout this episode is critiques.
Of Maxine Waters having some public statements about the Chauvin trial.
And Alex is kind of mad.
He's kind of mad that she grandstands on issues like this, but won't take on some of the bigger issues that Alex cares about.
alex jones
And Maxine Waters said, well, that's what civil rights looks like.
But she doesn't say a word about three million Muslims in death camps, a million Christians in death camps, a million Buddhists in death camps.
No, no, no, no, no.
She'll pick one of the 14 black men killed each year in a wrongful situation out of 350 million people, and she'll make a huge deal about that all day and act like that's all the world's problems to distract from the fact that she's a monster that sold out to China 30 years ago and de-industrialized this country.
And that she promotes Planned Parenthood that was established to kill black people.
Can you imagine if I set up a group that's mission was to, quote, kill black weeds?
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Kill black subhumans.
That's who she works with.
That's who she really funds.
jordan holmes
Isn't the Republican Party exactly that?
alex jones
See what they've done to black people and everybody else for that matter.
They just started on them, so they're farther down than us.
You think I feel strong as a human watching them brainwashed, dumbed down, drugged out, dying, killing each other?
It makes me feel like a sack of garbage.
But to people like her and the Democrats and Joe Biden that passed the laws, to if a black guy gets busted with drugs, he gets three times the sentence of a white person, to those real elitists, because they're beyond racist.
They're elitist.
jordan holmes
Is that beyond racist?
alex jones
They see us as animals.
They see us weak and falling apart and dying and going bankrupt.
They see that and it makes them feel big inside.
Makes them feel strong.
Because the truth is they're fallen and they're ugly and they're stupid and they're bad.
These globalists.
They're black, they're white, they're Christian, they're Catholic, they're Jewish, they're Muslim, they're Chai Com, they're everything.
They're from all our groups.
But they're of their father.
The dirty...
jordan holmes
There it was.
My bad.
I spoke too soon.
alex jones
My bad.
jordan holmes
My bad.
alex jones
That's a loser.
dan friesen
He's a loser.
jordan holmes
I take it back.
My bad.
That's on me.
dan friesen
He's a loser.
unidentified
The devil.
dan friesen
Yeah, come on, man.
jordan holmes
I know.
I should have known he was going to pull it home.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, like, I do appreciate how, you know, conversations about issues like the carceral state or China...
End up becoming rants about how they're all from the devil.
They're all children of the devil.
jordan holmes
The literal Christian devil.
dan friesen
Who I should point out is a loser.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That loser-ass devil.
jordan holmes
I thought he was doing great so far, to be honest.
dan friesen
Also, incidentally, Maxine Waters has spoken out consistently about the human rights abuses in China.
On September 30th, 2020, she spoke on the House floor in support of the Uyghur Forced Labor Disclosure Act of 2020, saying, quote, The government of the People's Republic of China falsely refers to these concentration camps as vocational camps or re-education camps.
Make no mistake.
The truth is that today, in 2020, one million human beings are being held in concentration camps where they're beaten, starved and flogged.
forced to work long hours in conditions that can only be described as inhumane.
jordan holmes
And we haven't even gotten to America yet.
dan friesen
Their relatives often have no idea where they are or whether they are alive.
They're dying each day due to the cruelty of their living conditions and the brutality of the Chinese government, which executes them with impunity.
Some of the notable Alex-friendly folks in the House who voted nay on that include Louie Gohmert, Paul Gosar, Jim Jordan, Devin Nunes, and Steve Scalise.
Alex is making up that people like Maxine Waters don't ever deal with the issues that he wants them to deal with because that makes it easier for him to trivialize things like the George Floyd killing.
The reality is, however, that Alex is just making up everything he says.
He has no idea if Maxine Waters has spoken out publicly against the Chinese human rights abuses, but the idea that she hasn't is the only option that fits into how his content is supposed to feel.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Because that feeling is more important than accurate reporting.
That feeling is reported as fact.
And this is just bad work.
This is how he operates.
jordan holmes
It is the most infuriating part of the right-wing bullshit sphere, is that it's like...
We only pay attention to these people whenever they do something we don't like.
So we have honestly no idea whatsoever if she's ever spoken about China.
No clue.
No clue.
Doesn't matter.
Wasn't paying attention when she did that.
I am only mad whenever she speaks out about something that I care about.
unidentified
Wait, what is the Uyghur Force Labor Disclosure Act of 2020?
jordan holmes
Totally no clue.
dan friesen
No clue.
jordan holmes
No clue.
dan friesen
So, you know, sometimes the world opens up a little bit.
You know, like...
I think that, you know, now that vaccines are going around a little bit more, we're getting to a point where there's a possibility of, like, meeting a friend for dinner.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's kind of exciting.
Or being able to go to a friend's house for a barbecue or something like that.
jordan holmes
There's a ballgame in my future, and I'm very excited.
dan friesen
It's kind of nice.
jordan holmes
It's very exciting.
dan friesen
Unless.
jordan holmes
Very bad.
dan friesen
You're like Alex.
alex jones
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
And you go out to dinner with James O 'Keefe.
alex jones
It was a really great evening last night.
I had like a two and a half hour dinner with James O 'Keefe and his fantastic crew.
And it's just an honor to be around these type of souls who love liberty, who are indomitable, and who have a fighting spirit.
It just makes me feel strong.
And it was really great.
And O 'Keefe turned to me after dinner and he said, Hey, we're going to give you a big exclusive tomorrow.
We're going to actually let you break it at 11 a.m.
And it's another terrorist.
They caught at the border and a cover-up of what happened.
They were given the internal documents.
That is breaking in 10. James O 'Keefe operates on one thing and one thing only, and that is attention.
dan friesen
If you're ever in a position where James O'Keefe is offering you an exclusive, you need to ask yourself some very serious questions about the legitimacy of the story that he's trying to give you.
jordan holmes
I am 100% sure this man, whose entire career is based...
Off of lying to the people that he is speaking to at any given point in time.
dan friesen
For the sake of attention.
jordan holmes
For the sake of attention and profit.
I am sure there's no way he would backstab Alex.
dan friesen
I'm not saying backstab necessarily, but you gotta be asking yourself, does he just not want to stand behind this story?
As it turns out, it's not an exclusive.
It's a video that's up on Project Veritas that Alex just plays.
jordan holmes
He's calling it an exclusive.
dan friesen
It doesn't fucking mean anything.
I don't even believe they had dinner.
jordan holmes
How is it possible that you can...
Like, the Infowars itself is blackballed on the major right-wing conservative news networks, but O 'Keefe can hang out with Alex and then still be like, Fox News is like, look at the new O 'Keefe masterpiece.
dan friesen
To be fair, we don't have corroboration they went to dinner.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That is true.
That's true.
dan friesen
Alex does say a lot of shit.
jordan holmes
You can't trust him bullshitting about that.
dan friesen
He also said this is an exclusive, and it's fucking not.
jordan holmes
It's true.
That's true.
dan friesen
So let's get to that real quick.
Here is the scoop that's not...
alex jones
Project Veritas exclusive Department of Homeland Security insider leaks quote significant event report showing suspected terrorists being tracked and apprehended on US-Mexico border.
This is the third one in a couple of weeks and they want this shut down so folks get the article out.
dan friesen
I don't care what Project Veritas does but also even if everything that's being said here is true then I don't care about their scoop.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
A suspected terrorist was tracked and arrested when they tried to enter the country.
That's just a story that tells me that border security is pretty alright and catching terrorists.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope, it's not working.
It's a failure!
Biden's administration is ruining everything by catching terrorists whenever they cross into this country.
dan friesen
Also, if I were James O 'Keefe, I'd probably shy away from stories like this about terrorists and the border.
They run the risk of reminding people about that time in 2014 when he dressed up as Osama Bin Laden and walked across a stretch of the Rio Grande River, supposedly illustrating how easy it would be for Bin Laden to sneak into the country.
It was super embarrassing, and he got dunked on pretty hard, so I'd be careful about reminding people about that video.
jordan holmes
I would say go for it, O 'Keefe.
I think this is a great idea.
You're gonna get all the attention in the world, and absolutely, you should dress up like Osama again, and then die in the ocean?
dan friesen
I will say that the sort of, like, flair for costuming period seems to be over in James O 'Keefe's career.
jordan holmes
That could be.
dan friesen
He seemed to love to dress up earlier on.
jordan holmes
You know, when you're...
Young, you like to dress up.
That happens.
You get older, you know, you put away childish things.
dan friesen
No, he just likes to wear a suit, act really dramatic.
jordan holmes
Ugh, I hate him so much.
dan friesen
Interview weirdos.
jordan holmes
I hate him so much.
dan friesen
Who maybe used to work at Facebook.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's the worst.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, we got a new instance of social media censorship going on here.
This one doesn't quite fit all the usual suspects.
It also probably isn't true.
alex jones
Meanwhile, Facebook removes posts by Breonna Taylor's mother criticizing Black Lives Matter, saying they never helped her, and they're full of crap.
Wow.
So now the mother of Breonna Taylor, who was killed wrongly, and Senator Paul passed a law to try to stop the no-knock warrants being used too much, he gets beat up for passing a law to protect her.
It's all upside down.
dan friesen
So you can see here Alex's position on the killing of Breonna Taylor has changed.
Now that there's an angle he can use to attack Black Lives Matter.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Because he's using the mask of being sympathetic about her death to make his attack on Black Lives Matter more palatable.
jordan holmes
You fucking opportunist bullshitting...
dan friesen
This is shady as hell and I have zero respect for it.
A couple of quick fact checks here though.
Taylor's mother did not say that Black Lives Matter was a fraud.
She was commenting on the Louisville chapter of Black Lives Matter, which she said she also has never dealt with.
Also, there's no indication that Facebook took down her post.
It's entirely possible that she removed it herself.
There's no verification on that.
Also, Rand Paul was beaten up by his neighbor in 2017, and reports on the neighbor's trial have called it a fight, quote, over a lawn care dispute.
Breonna Taylor was killed on March 13th, 2020, so unless this neighbor attacked Rand three years in advance as retaliation for passing laws limiting no-knock warrants, then what Alex is saying makes no sense, and he's just grasping at straws.
Also...
Rand Paul's bill, S3955, was read twice and then referred to committee where it has been since June 2020.
It is a dead bill.
Rand Paul has not succeeded in doing the thing that Alex is giving him credit for, which his neighbor apparently beat him up for three years prior.
jordan holmes
I think that's a long hair incident.
I think if Rand and I were to get into a fight, they would be described as an existential incident insofar as I do not appreciate his existence.
So that would just...
That would be my excuse.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's what I would have.
dan friesen
I feel like you might be the sort of cat who would like...
You could get in a long hair dispute with him.
jordan holmes
I could find a long hair dispute.
I could find any kind of dispute.
dan friesen
I just feel like it would be you'd like put poison on some of his yards so it would spell out something really offensive maybe in the grass.
jordan holmes
No, but what if he has a dog that ate it?
I would never, ever, ever hurt a pet.
Despite it being Rand Paul's pet, that is still a good pet.
dan friesen
Trim his bonsai into offensive shape?
Out in front of his house, maybe?
jordan holmes
Oh, I think I could probably get a crane, and then, you know like that gag where you've got the bucket of water on the door, and you like, open it, and then somebody gets, oh, that's terrible!
I get a crane, but like a really tall one.
And then when he's walking out of his house in the morning, I just pee right on his head.
And then whenever he's not sure what it is, and he looks up, Right into his mouth.
dan friesen
No way to kill a dog there so that I think you're safe.
I would say that if you were doing that, you'd be playing with fire.
jordan holmes
Possibly.
alex jones
And now the globalists want to burn down America.
They want to hold the police and our local government hostage so they roll over and a lot of them are.
They're playing with fire.
unidentified
They're playing with fire now, aren't they?
alex jones
Fire has a way of getting away from you.
Way of blowing back.
Burning you real bad.
That's why I don't play with fire.
unidentified
Is it?
jordan holmes
Don't you?
alex jones
What did old George Washington say?
Old George, our leader.
What'd he say?
jordan holmes
What did he say?
alex jones
He said, fire is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.
dan friesen
This isn't a real Washington quote.
unidentified
I was going to say, that's not a Washington quote by any shot!
dan friesen
The structure of discussing fire in this exact construction with the servant-master dichotomy was traced back to at least 1637 by the website Quote Investigator.
And the same idea and quote, but being applied to water, was traced back to 1562.
The first time this turn of phrase was credited to Washington was in 1902 in an article in the Christian Science Journal, and it's not even been consistently credited to Washington since then.
It's just another example of Alex throwing around fake quotes.
jordan holmes
Man, I think that one probably goes all the way back to like 150,000 years ago, whenever it was just like, ugh, and that meant it's hot.
Run away.
dan friesen
You can use fire for things, but also it can fuck you.
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Don't touch it, it's hot.
dan friesen
I was listening to that clip, though, and I got really excited because, you know, every now and again, I hate the doors, but every now and again, I'm in the right mood for that playing with fire.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Maybe I was just in the right mood.
And the way that Alex was doing the, like, don't play with fire.
I learned not to play with fire.
Fire is a way of biting you.
I got really excited, and then when he said this, I got even more excited.
unidentified
You're the ones playing with fire.
alex jones
You're the ones letting it out of the box.
And you don't control it.
And those that release the fire are almost always the ones burned by the fire.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound true at all.
alex jones
You must respect the fire.
And you must keep the fire at arm's length.
But those of you that embrace the fire of 666 will be burned by the fire.
unidentified
You cannot attack the fire.
alex jones
You are not in command of the fire.
unidentified
Because you're playing with fire.
alex jones
You play God?
You're not.
unidentified
*laughter*
dan friesen
I wasn't ready for the fire to be the devil.
I really wasn't.
alex jones
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I thought it was just about taking chances.
unidentified
See, now who got tricked by it winding up being the devil?
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
I was hoisted on my own petard.
I was playing fire, if you will, and I got burned.
unidentified
Do Christians not know how silly it is to use 666?
jordan holmes
Oh, it's three numbers!
dan friesen
I also do like the idea that you have to respect the fire.
jordan holmes
You gotta respect the fire.
dan friesen
Wait, the devil?
You gotta respect the devil?
jordan holmes
Keep the devil at an arm's length!
Alright, you don't embrace it, you respect the devil.
dan friesen
And when he was saying, you gotta keep the fire, I was thinking of that Kenny Loggins song.
Well, I was thinking of that too.
So yeah, that little diatribe was a little fun for me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I always appreciate it whenever he really loses the thread while trying to do lyrics, and then he's like, what if I combine the two, and then I'll have a thing to say.
dan friesen
What if I turn this into a block of content?
Then I have to do less work.
Then I have a good excuse to have not covered any news stories.
Dumb asshole.
jordan holmes
Spoken word album is coming our way once he's off the air.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, this clip, this for me is just like, every now and again you need that cute moment.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think that this is really cute.
unidentified
Because there is a war on for your mind.
No.
alex jones
There are a lot of diseased...
unidentified
crazy people who always seek to destroy innocents.
alex jones
And when we bow down to them, well, we get destroyed.
jordan holmes
He can't stop himself!
He can't do it!
He can't do it!
It's too catchy, Dan!
I almost started whistling!
It's too catchy!
dan friesen
He has to start whistling in the middle of a sentence.
jordan holmes
He can't stop!
dan friesen
It's amazing.
That, my friend, is a human moment.
jordan holmes
That is very cute.
That is very cute.
dan friesen
So, not so cute is Alex's story corner on this episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Except a little bit of a story about something that happened when he was getting divorced from his wife.
jordan holmes
Okay.
How is it possible to turn this racist?
Because I feel that's where we're going.
dan friesen
It's not going racist yet.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We'll get pretty deep into that later.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This story in particular is more...
I don't even know what it is.
I think the story Alex is trying to tell is a couple of really hot ladies after he was getting divorced, right?
A couple of hot ladies.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Invited him to a drag show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And here's what happened.
alex jones
And I don't know what it's about women liking this.
When I was getting divorced, a couple of gorgeous women that lived in the condos with me.
Well, one of them did.
One of them didn't live there.
Said, hey, we want to take you to this drag show contest.
And I'm like, I don't really go to topless bars.
And they go, no, no, no, this is tasteful.
It was in North Austin.
I lived in downtown then.
I was like a year into my divorce.
I wasn't divorced yet.
I'm like, okay, I mean, I'll go with you.
You know, there were two gorgeous brunettes that took me.
I get there and I go, what the hell?
This is like, half of these are men.
And the smell of the hormones, I was sick.
And then they all got mad at me that I was there.
And they're like, you're right.
We didn't know it was all men.
We thought there'd be a few here.
Let's go.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
But I remember, and we were there like 15 minutes.
dan friesen
This story makes no sense.
jordan holmes
This is incoherent.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I wonder what the reality of the story is, if he's just making all this up.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, it rings true in the sense that I have no doubt that at a certain point in his life, someone invited him to a drag show.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That I would believe.
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
It feels strange that you would accept that invitation.
jordan holmes
I would also believe they would be incredibly...
It doesn't sound like he knows what a drag show is.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
I think he thinks that it's a burlesque show.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
And it's not a drag show.
dan friesen
It's tasteful.
jordan holmes
Wow, man.
Isn't that sad?
There's a certain part of me that finds it so sad that if you're a conservative, Christian, white nationalist, you can't enjoy a drag show, which is one of the most joyous places that I've...
There's...
Everybody's happy at a drag show!
dan friesen
There's a lot of happiness.
unidentified
It's so happy!
dan friesen
I think that this story may or may not actually be true, or it might be greatly embellished, because I think it's really just an avenue for him to get into bashing drag queen story out.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
And so, one of the things that I've noticed that he does all the time is basically he says that his reporters have captured, like, pornographic footage of kids with, like, naked men and stuff like that.
And it's like, no, you haven't.
If not, if you had.
jordan holmes
It would be everywhere.
dan friesen
These people would be arrested.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
jordan holmes
And so would you for playing it on your show.
dan friesen
No, no, you can't play it on the show because the local affiliates complain.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
That's what he's saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is just nonsense.
alex jones
Yeah, this is some footage in Austin.
Stations complain about this, so don't show the part with the guy totally naked with glitter with children humping him.
I mean, but it's like a dude with a major schlong.
And there's kids riding him, but he's got glitter on his genitals, so it's, oh, it's covered.
I mean, this is all illegal.
And so I just couldn't imagine being a child and being around these, because it's a pack of lunatics.
I mean, they're all on drugs, they're on all sorts of crazy hormones, they're doing all sorts of insane things, and I've been around it for 15 minutes, and it made me physically...
Sick.
dan friesen
Talking about that drag show that he went to with those two very attractive ladies.
Wow.
jordan holmes
So much of that doesn't need to be part of the story.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
So much of it is, like, those details don't help with your story.
It doesn't matter how big his schlong was.
dan friesen
No, that is weird.
jordan holmes
Were that the case?
Any size schlong, it's still illegal.
dan friesen
Let me tell you this.
I don't know if he was saying it was a big schlong.
He said it was a major schlong.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That's true.
That means it's one rank away from giving him information.
unidentified
This is not a lieutenant colonel schlong.
dan friesen
This, yeah, I don't know.
I don't buy any of this nonsense.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
So Alex gets back to talking about the Chauvin trial.
The anticipation is building.
Maxine Waters is...
You know, said some comments that Alex is not into.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But the judge, you know, he's not interested in making this a mistrial.
alex jones
You see that judge up there?
Well, we don't just listen to a congresswoman.
You know, we don't need a mistrial.
No, you just have the jurors, people going to their houses the last two days.
CBS News doxing him.
You got people going to where one of the witnesses lived two years ago and putting pig blood and a severed pig head on his property.
No, you just got the media saying they're going to burn down everything if you don't send him to prison.
This isn't about that cop.
It's about lawlessness and terrorism and this mob, this French Revolution, Maoist, Bolshevik Revolution, October Revolution, takeover.
dan friesen
Alex has yet to demonstrate or show any instances of jurors being doxxed or harassed, so I'm not taking him repeating that claim any more seriously than I did the first time.
There's another interesting thing here, though, which is that the media didn't say that there would be protests and fires if Chauvin was found not guilty.
Alex has played some clips from newscasts, but there are interviews with civilians in Minneapolis who are expressing that there will likely be unrest if Chauvin is acquitted.
There's a really important difference here, and it's one that I think Alex refuses to acknowledge.
If the news goes out and interviews people, and they say that there'll likely be protests if Chauvin is found not guilty, does Alex think that the news should pretend that they didn't do these interviews?
If the goal is to represent the opinion of persons on the street that they talk to, it would seem like an irresponsible level of censorship to just edit their responses to reflect what you would want them to say, but that seems to be what Alex wants to happen.
jordan holmes
Well, the...
Okay, so the person being interviewed said specifically...
That if justice in this circumstance is denied when it's so overwhelmingly obvious what the verdict should be, then I'm going to help people, quote, no longer have a police precinct for a little while.
And then, if that was edited, it would be like a...
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think that really what's going on is essentially...
This is how Alex creates content, and so he assumes that everybody else does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Alex only puts, like, blurbs in and stuff that makes him, you know, like, he has these...
jordan holmes
It tells the narrative he wants it to tell, so he assumes.
dan friesen
Super cuts of Owen Troyer dunking on libs and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Do you think the right wing has actually convinced itself that the other side is doing what they're doing?
dan friesen
I think Alex has probably thought that all along.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it has to be the only justification for their horrible, awful behavior, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
Also, small point, but Maoism and Bolshevism aren't the same thing, and they have some pretty salient differences.
I think Alex just picks and chooses commie words that he thinks will scare the audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, communism is a single block.
dan friesen
I would love for him to try and explain what he meant by the end of that sentence.
That would be amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex is not a racist, as we've discussed many times, but usually in the reverse.
He is a racist.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And one of the ways that you can tell that is when he says things like this.
alex jones
But in all these BLM events, it's like 20, 30 white people and three or four black people who they have at the front of the line, who they admit they use at the front of the line.
And then the black controllers, trained as Marxists, even say, white allies in the back because they don't want them seen.
They want it to look like it's blacks doing it.
To scapegoat the blacks while they start the race war.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
So I'm smart enough to play chess while their folks are playing checkers.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
That was your chess game right there.
dan friesen
4D.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah.
I would say three moves is all it takes to defeat him.
dan friesen
So Alex seems to be hitting this note a little bit more regularly in recent days.
This idea that social justice causes are meant to incite racist backlash from white people and are orchestrated to do that by white people putting a few black scapegoats at the front of their actions.
This is a pretty outrageously racist idea, and as I've mentioned in the past, particularly on the last episode, this is very much in the same tradition as Alex's forefathers who fought against the civil rights movement.
Sure.
Yeah.
Sure.
Apparently, Alex read it at 12 and his mind was blown, although he was still a Satanist a few years later and got a bunch of people pregnant, but honestly, the timeline doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
Let's not worry about that.
dan friesen
This book is a primer that has been cited by many people, not just Alex, but people like Richard Belzer as being like a revelation to them.
jordan holmes
Wow, the bells tolls.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Gary Allen was a longtime member of the John Birch Society, and Nun Dare wasn't his first book.
Previously, he'd written a book called Communist Revolution in the Streets, which was a scathing and very racist attack on the civil rights movement.
There are a lot of arguments made in the book that look very bad in hindsight, but one of the predominant themes in the text is the idea that black rights organizations were secretly not actually black rights organizations, but actually communist fronts, typically run by white people.
jordan holmes
Just in case any white people reading this are concerned about unequal treatment, let's just...
100% get rid of that idea that race even exists at all.
It's just white people versus white people.
dan friesen
From page 33, quote, We arrive at the interesting possibility that the black Muslims were started by the communists, knowing that the majority of American Negroes felt no kinship with Soviet Russia.
By establishing a pseudo-religion based on Negro racial supremacy and annihilation of the blue-eyed devils, a revolutionary cadre could be built within the United States without the majority of people realizing its true significance.
Probably not surprisingly, Allen never actually justifies this, quote, interesting possibility, because as he goes on to say, quote, if the black Muslims were a communist setup from the beginning, it's doubtful that any but the very top oligarchy were aware.
That's some classic Infowars-style proof right there.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
This thing is true, and I can't prove it because only the top level of the conspiracy that I swear is real has that proof.
jordan holmes
And you can trust my credentials because my previous and former professors, all of whom top professors, I mean, you could...
Look, you can't interview him.
All of them are dead.
But you can trust that I'm great.
dan friesen
Right.
You understand, like, this construction that he's using is basically, in order to prove the basis for my conspiracy and the suspicion that I have, you have to assume the existence of the very conspiracy that I've failed to prove exists.
jordan holmes
It's circular.
It's kind of, yeah, no, it's him saying that if I'm right, you would already know.
Or if my information was public by them, you would have already, yeah.
dan friesen
This runs constantly throughout his book.
The real cause of the riots is agitation by revolutionaries, power-craving civil rights leaders, and vote-hungry politicians who are willing to trade the citizens' safety for the vote of a minority bloc.
Every group is a front.
Every event is incited by communists.
It's all very boring.
On page 48, Allen lays out what is essentially an overarching thesis.
Quote, The communists have been working for over 30 years on mass recruitment of Negroes in America.
Their efforts have usually failed because Negroes have proved to be loyal Americans, but this has not caused the communists to slacken because they see civil rights as America's Achilles heel and the Negro as the sacrificial cannon fodder for a communist-instigated revolution.
is now, which is being deployed by Gary Allen to attack the civil rights movement and Martin Luther King back in the mid-60s.
I would challenge Alex to reflect on this more or less one-to-one overlap between his rhetoric that's being used to attack social justice protests of the modern era and the rhetoric that Gary Allen used to attack social justice protests from our country's recent past.
jordan holmes
I mean, you could, again, this goes back to slavery.
This goes all the way back to them being like, well, there's no way that slaves could ever organize on their own, so it must be white people agitating the slaves, and it's probably poor white people because they don't like us having all the money.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
It goes all the way back.
It's there.
dan friesen
There is that.
I choose to focus this towards this because this is part of Alex's intellectual tradition.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
The anti-communism hadn't been attached to...
dan friesen
And this is the worldview that Alex espouses very deeply, this anti-communism stuff.
And this rooting of it is something that he needs to understand and stop obfuscating.
It's nonsense.
You can't...
You can't play the exact same game that your forefathers did against the Civil Rights Movement and pretend like that's not what you're doing.
It's not about communism.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
So Alex won't do any of this reflection, and everyone in his orbit pretends that books like Communist Revolution in the Street don't exist, because they make it too obvious that, like I said, this isn't about communism.
It never was.
That's all just a mask that they use to hide behind.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Whenever the communists was used as an excuse to blackball Jews in Hollywood, it's not like J. Edgar Hoover was like, this'll never work against black people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And, you know, just to give you some idea of how little people want people to read books like this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was very hard to find that book.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
dan friesen
I had to get it on loan from another university's private library that I got it for like a week and was able to photocopy it.
It's ridiculous.
It's out of print.
It's buried.
Probably because it's super offensive.
jordan holmes
It is a terrifyingly racist thing.
I've read...
You've given me one page and I was like, Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's terrifyingly offensive and very similar to...
The rhetoric that Alex Jones uses now vis-a-vis things like Black Lives Matter.
jordan holmes
Any white replacement theory in there?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We'll get there sooner or later.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex goes to calls, and he wants to talk about what do you think is going to happen with this verdict, man?
unidentified
What do you think?
Okay, so number one on the verdict, I think it's going to be a hung jury.
I think a lot of people got scared about the Maxine Waters comments.
Even the defense lawyer brought it up that his phone was blowing up on the trial.
And that's what I think.
I think they're going to be a hung jury.
Yeah, I think Maxine's totally controlled.
alex jones
She's a demon.
I think they told her to go do that to hang the jury.
I agree.
To cause the blow-up.
dan friesen
Okay, so there's going to be a hung jury, and it's going to be Maxine Waters has come out and said these things in order to precipitate that.
jordan holmes
Here is my educated guess.
dan friesen
That way there's going to be a riot afterwards because people are going to be really upset about the hung jury.
jordan holmes
They're going to be pissed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that's where we're at here, and this seems to be fairly consistent.
jordan holmes
Not hard.
dan friesen
Now, this caller has another thing to bring up.
Boy, things change real fast.
unidentified
Where he pretty much told his audience that the liberal media has been lying about COVID the whole time.
I just want to know your thoughts on the Bill Maher segment, because I haven't heard you talk about that yet.
alex jones
Well, I think Bill Maher is very talented, very watchable.
I don't agree with a lot of what he said.
What the fuck?
Yeah, he said COVID was actually a giant hoax.
Oh, and I forgot to get that.
jordan holmes
I hate you.
I hate you so much!
dan friesen
Bill Maher.
jordan holmes
I hate you so much!
dan friesen
Bill Maher is now a secret patriot.
jordan holmes
I hate him!
I can't.
No.
That's a bricking.
unidentified
I think he's not going to become a regular Democrat on the left.
He's going to have to come out as a libertarian, or they're going to start calling him a fraud.
alex jones
Oh, actually, they've been demonizing him before this, saying, stop burning down random neighborhoods.
Stop shooting random police.
That's what bad guys do.
Yeah, no, he's...
Look.
jordan holmes
I can't think of anybody.
alex jones
The word is he's more like Tucker Carlson.
He won't be on air if he doesn't tell the line.
So he has to make some false statement and make a true statement.
But I'm rooting for Bill Maher to go all the way.
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
I have bad news for that caller, and that is that Bill Maher has self-identified as a libertarian many times in the past.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
His exact political philosophy is kind of tough to nail down, but libertarianism is one of the titles he's used before.
The only reason anyone would think that he's some kind of a super liberal is if they only know about his positions from listening to Alex yell about him.
Also, Alex can fuck right off with this stuff about Maher being basically like Tucker Carlson, but he knows that he needs to say some things to stay on air.
For years, Alex has used things that Maher has said and pretended they were globalist positions.
The whole thing about how the globalists wanted to crash the economy to hurt Trump, that was entirely based on a joke that Bill Maher said on one of his shows.
Alex has used Bill Maher's comments to such a prominent extent in his conspiracies that Alex had to explain Bill Maher's role in globalist operations like this.
alex jones
Here he is on the same show, Bill Maher.
When he talks, that's a globalist mouthpiece.
So it's like Satan's puppet.
His little sitting on his lap, a little.
One of those things, ventriloquist dolls.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's basically a globalist ventriloquist doll.
He lays out the program.
jordan holmes
I was just gonna say, whenever he said some people have been...
I'm like, that has been your job for five years!
Jesus.
dan friesen
This is a stunning reversal for Bill Maher.
If I believed a word that Alex said, Bill Maher should be super worried about globalist assassin squads coming to get him for betraying his contract as a ventriloquist dummy or some dumb shit.
But all of it's made up, so it doesn't matter.
unidentified
Isn't that something that he said on his last episode?
jordan holmes
Is that the higher-ranking guys eventually leave the globalists with all their money and power, and then they get killed.
dan friesen
Yeah, Bill Maher is gonna get assassinated soon.
jordan holmes
That should be what you're saying.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, we get a guest at this point, and it's...
Norm.
Stand-up comedy pass.
jordan holmes
Does he have a new bit for us?
dan friesen
No, but he...
jordan holmes
If he did limericks, if he just out of nowhere started doing limericks, that's a full circle for us.
dan friesen
Isn't Schachter's name Norm, too?
No, Marty Schachter.
jordan holmes
No, it's Marty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I will say that Norm doesn't have a new bit, but he does have an old one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
norm pattis
I mean, I'm sure not going to call Black Lives Matter if somebody's breaking my door down tonight.
I'm dialing 911 and hoping somebody like Derek Chauvin responds to the call.
dan friesen
Again.
Great bet.
jordan holmes
I mean, you would if you were white.
dan friesen
And I do love the idea that he's insistent on making sure people know that Black Lives Matter does not address burglaries.
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Just to make sure everyone knows.
dan friesen
Thank you, Norm.
jordan holmes
One, the number for Black Lives Matter, significantly longer than 911.
dan friesen
I also wouldn't call the police to deal with, like, racial injustice issues.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
dan friesen
So I wouldn't call them to deal with, like, advocacy.
For causes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We've made an amazing point.
jordan holmes
I think it's good.
dan friesen
The point that's so good that Norm had to do it again.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The same point.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
Back-to-back episodes.
unidentified
So good.
dan friesen
Mic down for this.
Because Norm's going to lie a little bit about the idea of reassignment surgery for minors.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
But that's less important than the exchange that happens at the end of this clip.
norm pattis
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
Because it is so heartbreaking.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It is so sad.
norm pattis
We cherish difference for the sake of difference.
We're in a situation where parents could be accused of risk of injury to a minor by not heeding their minor children's desire for sex change operations.
I mean, it's just absolutely insane.
And I don't really know who benefits from this.
It's hard to imagine that anyone does.
Well, that would be one candidate.
dan friesen
Oh my God, you're a fucking lawyer.
Who benefits for this?
jordan holmes
Satan!
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Your Honor, I ask that this case be thrown out, seeing as how half of the jury is Satanists!
dan friesen
How embarrassing would it be to be like, well...
Eh, maybe we used to be taken seriously.
Now I'm sitting here with this dumb fuck Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's telling me the answer to qui bono is Satan, and I have to be like, well, that's one option.
jordan holmes
That's a possibility.
dan friesen
To take this bullshit seriously.
jordan holmes
At no point in time could I consider that perhaps somebody would benefit from not having their emotional life destroyed by their real identity being denied them, but it's gotta be the devil.
dan friesen
So, um...
I think that Alex has a disease.
I think he has a compulsion, sickness, and addiction.
And that is, whenever Norm Pettis is on the show, he can't help himself but make declarations that involve a million dollars.
alex jones
By the way, put her face up.
She's under lights.
Like, ten lights are on at a press conference, and she's got almost pure pupils.
dan friesen
Talking about Maxine Walker, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I put that together.
alex jones
From my research, you've got at least, we're talking 10 lines of methamphetamine, cocaine, or LSD to do that.
I mean, those eyes are, she is jacked.
What the hell is she on, man?
norm pattis
I mean, she's on self-righteous fumes.
No, seriously.
alex jones
Look, I'll bet anybody a million dollars.
You can't shine bright lights in somebody's eyeballs and have them be 95% pupil.
I mean, look at that.
God almighty.
norm pattis
I don't understand enough of the physiology of pupil dilation.
alex jones
Well, let me get you a newsflash.
Any police training?
dan friesen
Let me tell you.
It's remarkable.
I mean, once is...
I mean, it's still not a pattern, I guess, but Norm has been on for two instances of Alex offering million-dollar bounties on things.
If I were Norm, I'd be like, is it me?
jordan holmes
I do appreciate...
dan friesen
Is it something about me?
Am I so boring that Alex needs to spice this up with millions of dollars on the line?
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that Norm is like...
Well, I think she's on self-righteousness because I am not going to insist that she is on drugs.
That's not what I do.
dan friesen
You already pimped me out into saying that maybe the devil.
jordan holmes
Maybe it was the devil.
You forced me to say that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, man, interesting.
Norm, not Norm's appearance.
Very boring.
jordan holmes
No, of course.
dan friesen
But what is interesting is that immediately after this, Alex has Barnes on.
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
His other lawyer friend.
Always have the double lawyer attack!
dan friesen
Well, I think it's because it's the law day.
jordan holmes
Well, that's right.
It's Chauvin trials.
You might as well have as many lawyers on as you can, and there are only two who will.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I might have accidentally skipped a minute or something, because, like...
Alex was in the middle of talking to Norm, and then he's talking about how, like, Barnes is the smartest lawyer that he knows.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
And I'm like, did he just say that, but he meant Norm?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I couldn't tell until Barnes started talking to himself, and I'm like, okay, I guess they just had them back to back.
jordan holmes
So maybe we just stroked out for a minute there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but as soon as he was on, I kind of figured out what was going on.
robert barnes
The whole point of a jury trial is to not have mob justice.
It's the counter to mob justice.
It's the opposite point to mob justice.
It's the remedy to mob justice.
So by trying to create mob justice inside the courtroom and convert the jury into a mob, they are completely defeating the entire point of jury trial justice.
And maybe their goal, much like with policing, will be to ultimately replace juries.
alex jones
Exactly.
Why the bold assault?
Why are they so arrogant?
How do we counter this?
Because this should really threaten all Americans.
This is just as bad as going after free speech or our guns.
robert barnes
But one of the greatest protections against total control by the state is the jury system.
Because it's ordinary, everyday people coming together.
alex jones
The power of the judiciary lies with the people.
robert barnes
Absolutely.
The power of the state is in the power of the jury.
And it's a check on politicians.
It's a check on abusive state actors.
alex jones
And the media wants the power to misquote, misphrase, miscript, misrepresent, and then the media wants the power.
Like, what we say, jury's got to do.
dan friesen
So I found this really interesting.
So what's going on here is that Barnes is coming on the show here towards the end, and the game that they were playing I thought was really overt.
What's going on here is, so for a lot of the show, the fear that Alex has been building up to is one of a hung jury or an acquittal, which is what the globalists want, because then there's going to be riots in the streets.
This trial is essentially an elaborate setup to get people riled up to the point where there will be riots.
That's what Alex's callers have suspected, and Alex has mirrored this sentiment back to them.
He's even said that he believes that Maxine Waters' statements were intentionally made to cause a mistrial so there will be riots.
But what if that doesn't happen?
You don't want to put all your eggs in that one basket, so here comes Robert Barnes to provide the alternative narrative.
In case things don't go the way Alex has been saying they will this whole episode.
In case Chauvin is found guilty, Barnes has the narrative in place here.
The Maxine Waters comments were essentially the creation of mob rule within the courtrooms in order to replace jury trials with mob justice.
Until the verdict is read, if you're a listener of InfoWars, you're being asked to believe that Maxine Waters comments were simultaneously an attempt to replace juries with mob justice and also a needlessly complicated conspiracy meant to cause a mistrial that will lead to riots.
InfoWars needs both of these to be true until the Yeah.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate how his audience...
In fact, maybe how all of conservatives view everybody on the left insofar as never speaking to them, they know exactly what the left is going to do.
It's kind of amazing that if you never learn anything about your political enemy, you can make them say whatever it is you want them to say.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Infowars have these narratives established, and they're ready to push their worldview and pretend that they were right, regardless of how the jury decides.
The act of the verdict being read actually determines which of these ideas they have to accept as truth moving forward.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If Chauvin is not guilty, Alex will say that Waters caused that to start the riots, but if he is guilty, that angle will be quickly forgotten.
The reverse is true of the mob rule storyline.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is an important point to recognize, that reality doesn't matter to someone like Alex.
Real life events are just things that he incorporates like props into the story that he decided to tell long ago.
Yeah.
unidentified
And the story with the Chauvin trial is that there's no outcome that's...
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It is, yeah, it's very annoying.
It's very annoying that they can just fucking...
It's like they're pre-writing a choose-your-own-adventure book based on the story.
They've already got where they're going to wind up.
They just have to give you the different pathways to go down.
And if they choose page 19, then you have to start over at page 2. And be like, okay, well now they're going to start a race war next time.
But this time it was a Maxine Waters mob rule.
dan friesen
Well, it's basically...
Like, you know, insistently saying both A and B, which are contradictory things, and then B happens, and then someone criticizes you for talking so much about A, and you're like, no, I said B. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You said both.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, A squared plus B squared equals either A or B squared, I believe is how the...
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Barnes, he has some comments that he wants to make about how society got to the point that it is now, where there's such a nanny state.
jordan holmes
Does he say that it's his fault?
dan friesen
No, although Alex should probably be mad at him.
alex jones
What did we do to let these lunatics get to this point?
And how do we counter people like this?
robert barnes
Well, it sort of starts with the culture itself, that politics is downstream from culture, and the sort of the entire safe space movement that arose out of sort of the moral panic about kindergartens and elementary schools and daycare centers in the 90s, going to, you know, all of those range of cases where a lot of stories were told by the prosecutors that ended up being false.
Created sort of a playdate culture where we weren't allowed to let our kids go out in the street and just play with random strangers.
alex jones
So you're saying the nanny state has created a lot of neuroses, and now they can leverage that at anything they want.
robert barnes
Correct.
dan friesen
No, he was saying that's a satanic panic.
jordan holmes
So Robert Barnes' main contention is that conservative right-wing outrage towards an imaginary problem led us into a circumstance that is...
Almost entirely conservative outrage at a made-up problem?
dan friesen
Yeah, more or less.
jordan holmes
That does make sense.
dan friesen
But the reason that Alex should be mad about this is that Robert Barnes is saying that things like the McMartin School trial and stuff, there were things that were alleged that weren't true.
jordan holmes
Which Alex has often said are 100% true.
dan friesen
He believes that Ted Gunderson is the most reliable source ever.
And Barnes is saying literally the opposite.
This is silly.
jordan holmes
Both can be true.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I wonder if Barnes was stopping himself, because you could hear him say, and he stopped himself from saying McMartin.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, maybe he just didn't want to be too specific or whatever.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
Like, at risk of pissing off Alex.
jordan holmes
I think there's a rule of, like, don't tread too closely into Alex's zones, you know?
Especially not with specifics.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Especially when you can't...
Like, bear the indignity of agreeing with Alex's stupid position on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it could be the devil this time, Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah, Norm got trounced.
So, look.
Robert Barnes, noted gambler on politics.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
This guy loves to make a bet.
jordan holmes
Make some money, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex wants to know what...
jordan holmes
You know how it's great if your lawyer is also gambling on the side?
You know how what you want from your lawyer is also gambling?
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Barnes is the kind of guy who's going to make a definite stake in terms of what's going to happen with this verdict.
jordan holmes
Is he going to put a million dollars down?
dan friesen
No, he's not Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, damn.
robert barnes
And I think that there's a decent chance...
That we get an acquittal.
My view is there's about a 50% chance of an acquittal in this case, and that's going to shock the media.
That's going to shock a lot of people who didn't watch the trial, but it would affirm the confidence that people rightly have.
alex jones
I agree with you, because I think the last straw is threatening the jury.
People go, wait, we're the bad guys?
We're being honest here.
I'm a good person.
I want to do justice.
You're saying I'm bad about doing what you want?
That would make me, you know, if I was on the knife's edge of which way to go, that would make me acquit.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about thinking that Maxine Waters has threatened the jury.
jordan holmes
So if I understand Alex correctly, were he on a jury, the main thing that protects us from a mob rule system, were he considering the actual justice, he would take somebody, anybody's comment in the media, and use it as justification for his spiteful decision to exist entirely within oppositional defiance.
dan friesen
Oppositional defiance would rule his decision-making, not the facts of the case.
jordan holmes
Only thing!
Protecting us from mob rule!
unidentified
Look, I'm pretty sure this fucking person's innocent, but...
jordan holmes
Maxine Waters said some shit.
dan friesen
Did you hear what Bill Maher said?
jordan holmes
He was talking shit!
dan friesen
Wait, Bill Maher's cool now.
jordan holmes
Ah, shit.
dan friesen
Who am I mad at?
jordan holmes
Who do we choose?
dan friesen
Jimmy Kimmel?
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, congratulations Barnes on your 50-50 bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it could go one way or it could go the other.
Or there's a third possibility.
dan friesen
Wishy-washy nonsense.
jordan holmes
So...
dan friesen
I found this very bizarre, but not really all that bizarre.
There was this phenomenon going on where you had these two possibilities and these two narratives that were built up.
One at the beginning of the show and one towards the end of the show.
Where you have Maxine Waters is trying to cause a mistrial in order to...
Get riots in the streets.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then Barnes, she's doing this to create mob rule in order for the jury to be cowed into voting guilty.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I was like, both of these things are kind of, you know, it's tough.
You have two disconnected threads.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then what I thought was really interesting is in this next clip, you can kind of see Alex tie them together.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
I'm listening.
alex jones
So bottom line, do you think threats on the jury backfire and they...
Or do they bow down?
robert barnes
I think that's an open question.
I think it worked with some jurors, didn't work, it backfired with other jurors, and the question is who wins out in the end.
dan friesen
So now what Alex has done is he's taken these two things, he's woven them together under a similar umbrella, and he's made it feel like they're connected.
Alex has decided that the deciding factor in this case is whether or not these threats to the jury have been successful, which is already an outrageous assumption for him to make.
What this does is remove any reality of the facts of the case, or even the possibility that any of the jurors could find Chauvin guilty unless they were doing so as the result of bowing down to threats.
jordan holmes
There's no such thing as the merits of the case.
None.
dan friesen
By framing the conversation this way, the conclusion is that the right verdict is acquittal.
That's just assumed.
And the explanation for a guilty verdict is that the jury was afraid of threats, which is nonsense.
I said this makes Alex's narratives feel like they're connected, but they're actually not if you take a closer look.
This new cleaner framing leaves out the entire thing about Maxine Waters specifically making the comments she did in order to cause a mistrial so there would be riots.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is not the same thing as threats backfiring and leading to an acquittal.
Yeah.
One of the differences between them is really major, too.
jordan holmes
You would think because it's part of the globalist overarching plan.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
That's the problem here.
Why are we adding this element?
That destroys the plan that was already working?
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So in the conception of how Alex was talking about the verdict earlier in the episode, it was pretty clear that the globalists wanted an acquittal because their goal was to incite street riots and burning of cities.
jordan holmes
Right, which you're not going to get with a guilty verdict.
dan friesen
If that is the case, then these alleged threats to the jury have to have been meant to be so over the top that a mistrial is guaranteed and the riots happen.
However, in the new framing, it appears that the globalists actually want Chauvin to be found guilty as the mob rule.
These threats are either successful, in which case the verdict is guilty, or they backfire and the verdict is not guilty.
But the reason that the threats are made are in service of achieving a guilty verdict.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
If you pay close attention, over the course of one show, Alex has completely changed the primary motivation of his imaginary villains, because he's just making this up as he goes along.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
None of this means anything.
This whole thing is basically just a lazy idiot engaging in an act of really long, really bigoted improvisational storytelling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically.
dan friesen
And having weirdos like Robert Barnes help him out along the way.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So that was the tale, I think, of the 20th.
And then in the evening of the 20th afternoon, depending on time zone.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Maybe morning.
Who knows?
Maybe you're overseas.
jordan holmes
What you gonna do?
dan friesen
Chauvin guilty.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Also, Ted Nugent got COVID.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Other news.
jordan holmes
Is he on the 21st?
dan friesen
No, he doesn't.
jordan holmes
He should go on.
dan friesen
He doesn't come up.
jordan holmes
He's gotta go on.
He's gotta go on with COVID.
That's gotta happen.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And lick Alex.
jordan holmes
And absolutely find a way to be like, this isn't real.
dan friesen
So, we come in on the 21st now, after the verdict has happened.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you can tell a little bit of a different tone.
unidentified
Oh, you think?
dan friesen
A little different vibe is happening in Infowars Studio.
unidentified
We have to reach out to the audience.
We have to open our hearts and we'll scare you and see that this is not true.
What is wrong with you people?
alex jones
Thank you for joining us on this live Wednesday, April 21st, Global Transmission.
dan friesen
It's a Land of Del Rey kind of day.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
I just.
It's Europe.
We watched him murder somebody.
It's not an attack on whiteness.
It's not an attack on whiteness.
Why do they all have to make it an attack on whiteness?
There are so many reasons to attack whiteness.
We didn't need this one.
dan friesen
You know how you were saying that you enjoyed that nice bath?
jordan holmes
I did.
I loved it.
dan friesen
I think that Alex was in a similar place that you were before the bath because of this quote-unquote attack on whiteness.
And the only thing that he could have, he couldn't have a bath, so he had to listen to Lana Del Rey.
He loves this album, man.
I'll tell you what.
unidentified
Well, her new album is even better than the last.
Amazing.
Cool album.
alex jones
Very Christian album.
Sure!
It's a real Christian, not a fake one.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
alex jones
Avant-garde, the cutting edge, the future.
Get behind me, Satan.
dan friesen
I'm guessing that Alex just saw that one of the titles of the songs on Lana's new album is Tulsa Jesus Freak.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Absolutely, absolutely.
Yep, yep.
jordan holmes
All he needed to see.
dan friesen
Has Alex forgotten that just three years ago he was spending quite a bit of time on his show yelling about how Lana Del Rey was a witch who'd used evil spells against Donald Trump because she said in an interview that she used witchcraft against Trump?
jordan holmes
Yep, that does sound right.
dan friesen
Does he not remember how the entire right wing was up in arms about her breakthrough album being called Born to Die?
jordan holmes
That was the other outrage machine time.
That was back then when the outrage machine was cranking out that bullshit.
dan friesen
It's just, it's so interesting.
Like, I feel worried for him when he's playing a bunch of Lana Del Rey.
jordan holmes
I don't appreciate that it's okay for him to love Lana Del Rey publicly, but he can't admit that he fucking loves Star Wars.
dan friesen
Yeah, he still feels the need to be like, I don't even like those dumb movies.
jordan holmes
It's so infuriating!
dan friesen
Now let me reference an obscure character.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
Someone you would only know.
dan friesen
Someone who only exists in the books.
jordan holmes
An immediate pull from something it would be impossible to immediately pull from.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Can't do it.
Because Star Wars is not Christian, like Lana Del Rey's new album.
alex jones
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So, in Christianity...
jordan holmes
How's Christianity doing?
Still kicking it?
dan friesen
Well, God's real.
Satan's real.
jordan holmes
Well, I guess that means Christianity is having a great time.
alex jones
Satan is real.
God is real.
And you are real.
And this is not a simulation.
jordan holmes
That sounds like something a simulation would say.
alex jones
This is the great test of consciousness.
jordan holmes
That's exactly like what somebody in a simulation would say.
alex jones
Consciousness or the seed of...
The universe, the seed of infinity, is not just given away freely.
You must be tested.
I must be tested.
And so when you see the Nancy Pelosi's and the Maxine Waters and the Prince Phillips.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And the David Rockefeller's and the Bill Gates's of the world.
These are people.
That failed the test.
These are people held in mindless, clown-like bondage.
dan friesen
Did I mostly keep that clip in for the turn of phrase, clown-like bondage?
jordan holmes
Ah, it's a good one.
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
It is a good one.
Clown-like bondage is not bad.
That's very evocative.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, I mean, it's just indicative of, like, kind of this mood that Alex is in at the beginning of the show.
Like, over at Lana Del Rey, he's talking about Satan and, like, God.
No, he's in a very, very deeply spiritual...
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem like we're gonna get into more esoteric Christianity for a little bit.
dan friesen
Yeah, lest we deal with...
The covering the verdict.
jordan holmes
No, we don't want to do that.
No, there's a lot of racist things that you would say if you were to cover that verdict and you were out.
dan friesen
You should probably just talk about Satan.
jordan holmes
Satan's a real good guy.
alex jones
We are in the process of not humans' extermination, but the slow destruction of all carbon-based life forms on this planet is the goal of Satan.
jordan holmes
Does that matter, though?
alex jones
Because God...
Created this carbon-based system.
We are made in the image of God.
And Satan hates our supremacy.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
Humans are incredible when we're unchained.
We are beautiful.
We can experience the universe and communion with the Creator.
We're like rods and cones in the eye of God.
We are God's vessels, God's tentacles, God's probes, God's system experiencing consciousness.
jordan holmes
I don't want to be any of that.
alex jones
And nothing Satan can do will ever change that.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I feel like maybe he should have gone to college and got high.
Maybe he would have worked some of this out of his system.
You know, like having really annoying conversations with people?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because that's very simple.
Okay, so you're telling me that one, this life...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hit it again.
Hit it again.
One, one...
dan friesen
I gotta break out the ball.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're gonna need it.
This life is a test.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Consciousness is a test.
jordan holmes
And that's all it is.
unidentified
Because...
jordan holmes
God is testing you to see if you can come and hang out with him.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Right.
But Satan is the person or entity doing the testing.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Thus, he is part of God's plan.
dan friesen
Right.
And if you're like Pelosi or Prince Philip, you have failed the test and you're in clown-like bondage.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You're in clown-like bondage, naturally.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, it's like he's been doing this for, you know, thousands of years.
Why is he still taking it so personally?
You know, the devil is like, I'm already part of the plan, and God's like, he's not going to succeed at destroying all of the people.
We've got Alex fighting him.
dan friesen
Well, it's because the last 999 years of this thousand-year plan has been all leading up to this.
jordan holmes
Well, that's why God gave us Alex!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's this sort of bias that people have about, like, immediacy or currency, like the time right now is the most important time ever.
Yeah, of course.
jordan holmes
Every generation thinks they're the last generation.
dan friesen
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And obviously, there's reasons to feel that way sometimes.
But Alex suffers from that in a way that intersects deeply with narcissism.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Kind of scary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's not good.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I remember I had a lot of conversations like that.
Like, maybe when I started to, like, I don't know, explore some of the elementary ideas about narcissism or something.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
dan friesen
You know, like, oh...
Blowing minds.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
That's when you should have that conversation.
Your head is empty.
You're a big dumb-dumb.
You should be smoking weed and having dumb conversations.
But at the same time, when you're not smoking weed, you should be reading books.
Struggling with reading comprehension, and then you won't have to have those conversations ever again.
I love of never having those conversations, Dan.
dan friesen
So, one thing that I thought was really bizarre, and maybe off-putting, was where he goes immediately after this conversation about how we're elements of God's eye experiencing things for God.
jordan holmes
Also tentacles.
dan friesen
Mic down for this, because this...
I want to see if this hits your ear the same way it hit mine.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We're like rods and cones in the eye of God.
We are God's vessels, God's tentacles, God's probes, God's system experiencing consciousness.
And nothing Satan can do will ever change that.
So don't let the enemy get you down.
I know it gets me down.
It's sad.
And don't let their religion of race war and their religion of worshipping black people on the surface when they're doing the opposite or killing them ever get you down.
unidentified
That really felt weird.
dan friesen
Do you...
jordan holmes
I don't feel comfortable.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, that makes me feel very uncomfortable.
dan friesen
That's really weird.
jordan holmes
That's really gross, because now you're transforming the fight for even the slightest modicum of racial justice.
Into a holy war against anyone who would try and get a modicum of racial justice.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's some of that.
And also, the pronouns that are used are a little bit strange.
He's using we a lot when he's talking about the eyes of God and what have you.
And then them.
When he's talking about black people.
jordan holmes
It does seem like what he was doing.
dan friesen
It does seem to be a little bit of a disconnect.
jordan holmes
I think he has a very different view of people based upon their skin and appearance.
And that's just me.
That's just me.
I could be wrong.
dan friesen
I'll tell you what.
That seemed very strange.
That hits my ear very weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Except there's a very easy explanation that would not make it hit my ear very weird.
And that is if Alex knows that he's just talking to white people.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yes.
Then it makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Then what he said makes total sense.
jordan holmes
Makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But if he thinks that he's talking to a diverse audience, that's weird.
That doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
That's not cool.
dan friesen
The structure of that sentence is bizarre.
I would be more careful if I were him.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
What I'm saying is that we, denizens of the great Rhodesia, and wait, I shouldn't have said that.
Well, I mean, we Christians.
dan friesen
Alex's buddy Gary Allen loved Rhodesia.
It was surprising.
You know, I always like to find these kinds of moments where there's olive branches, where there's a possibility for Alex and I to agree on something.
jordan holmes
Sure, we want reconciliation as always.
dan friesen
I mean, even if it's superficial, I'll take it.
Sure.
I kind of thought that maybe Nancy Pelosi's very unfortunate and poorly...
Constructed comments.
jordan holmes
Boy, boy, boy, Nancy, you're really putting your name at the top of the list to go fuck yourselves.
dan friesen
Nancy Pelosi came out and referred to George Floyd's murder as a sacrifice for justice, which was real shit.
Woof.
I thought that maybe there would be an opportunity for Alex and I to come to some sort of an agreement that, hey, that was not good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it seems like it wouldn't be hard.
That's the level of shit that if I was Nancy Pelosi's aide, I would immediately tackle her off the stage.
I would be like, everybody will like you more if you get hurt for this.
dan friesen
And then come up with an excuse of, like, I saw a threat.
jordan holmes
I ate chili.
Just anything.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, this would have been a...
Lay up for Alex to get me to agree with him.
But somehow, he manages to not only miss the shot, he broke his ankle mid-air.
jordan holmes
Critical failure.
alex jones
What did we see Nancy Pelosi say?
We'll play it in a moment.
She said yesterday, breathing through her face diaper, huffing and puffing at 82 years old, with her tenuous grasp to life, as her spirit begins its descent, To her master.
And she thanked George Floyd for his sacrifice like he was a veteran, like he was Jesus on the cross, like he was a messiah.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
alex jones
A drugged out male prostitute.
Devastatedly unhappy.
Possessed by the spirit of the world.
Until the moment he died.
dan friesen
Just missed it.
Wow.
Just missed the mark.
jordan holmes
Just incredible.
Yep.
Just incredible.
Something so...
dan friesen
So easy.
jordan holmes
He's too racist to even criticize Nancy Pelosi when she's being racist.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Remarkable.
jordan holmes
That is a level I just didn't expect.
I just didn't expect it.
Yep.
dan friesen
I mean, there's disappointment.
And then there's disappointment.
jordan holmes
And then there's that.
dan friesen
Like, Alex, you can't even clear that incredibly low hurdle of critiquing Nancy Pelosi for that kind of a bungle.
jordan holmes
How dare she not be racist enough for me!
That's not good.
That's not good.
dan friesen
So the feds, they're taking over policing, which means actually the UN is in charge, and uh-oh, we have no government.
alex jones
And there is...
Pelosi announcing the globalist UN-controlled federal, and the feds are run by the UN now, meaning UN takeover of our police, just like they control our medicine and our speech and policies of our military.
We are now a conquered nation, and until we realize we're a conquered nation, we have no hope.
But if we unified against their evil, we could easily take back our government.
dan friesen
This is just about the Department of Justice opening an inquiry into the Minneapolis Police Department.
Alex is such a dramatic little baby that he's turned that into the UN running the country, and the only people who can stop them and take the country back are him and his buddies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
You gotta escalate things a lot quicker whenever your big bad is the devil.
You know, you can't be like, this is just going to...
He couldn't even possibly be like, they're just going to root out the patriots in the police state.
That's why it's bad.
It has to be a complete overthrow of the United States government.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So, I don't know if you're aware of this, but we live in a multiverse.
jordan holmes
I am aware of that.
dan friesen
Do you know that we live in those universes simultaneously?
jordan holmes
It has to be true.
dan friesen
It's real heady stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
We do not just live in one dimension.
We live throughout the multiverse.
I want to open the phones up until the bottom of the next hour when a constitutional lawyer joins us, Norm Pattis.
dan friesen
I'd like to shift dimensions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would very much like to not do that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
How do I live in the dimension where Norm Pattis isn't coming back on the show?
How about that, you dick?
jordan holmes
Yeah, what's the quantum suicide thing?
Can you just quantum suicide until you get into a good universe?
dan friesen
How do I get to the universe where you have a better fucking booking agent?
It's ridiculous.
Too much norm.
jordan holmes
Nope, can't do it.
dan friesen
So, I want to tell you in advance here, this is not a good clip.
This is a bit racist.
jordan holmes
If you're saying that now after where we've come.
dan friesen
Well, this has to do with a lead-in to conversation.
He doesn't actually have much of a conversation about the Bryant shooting in Columbus.
Sure, sure.
unidentified
But the way he does get into it is not good.
alex jones
It's already been at historic highs, black-on-white crime, because a lot of black young people are buying into the lie and doing it, and it's terrible.
But they're highly impressionable, and they're being told that this is what you should do.
And I just saw a video this morning.
It's an article on Infowars.com.
We'll play next hour while we take your calls.
Columbus, Ohio.
A, quote, little black baby, the media said.
She's a big girl for 15. Looks like she hasn't missed out on any cheeseburgers.
jordan holmes
How fucking dare you?
alex jones
She was stabbing a white woman and a black woman with a 8-inch knife.
Looks like a short butcher knife.
Black people called the police.
jordan holmes
She did.
alex jones
She keeps stabbing people.
And so, they were stabbed.
Two people were stabbed.
And because the white devil shot the black angel...
Black Lives Matter protesting and rioting.
dan friesen
There's a lot of details that are yet to be sorted out about this shooting, and I don't feel like I have an ability to fully assess the situation yet.
I'm going to leave that to more information to come out, time to process, and what have you.
I wanted to play this clip, however, to demonstrate how open and shut things are for Alex, and how coverage of this story begins by discussing how impressionable black youth are, and how they're being taught to attack white people.
The actual details of this case are secondary and not nearly as important as how explicitly racist Alex and his show are.
This is outrageous.
jordan holmes
That is so fucked up.
I just don't know.
dan friesen
Black youth are very impressionable.
jordan holmes
What?
I will never understand quite how easy it is for a white racist to get to, like, well, if you're 15 and black, though, you're big.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You're bigger than 15-year-old white people, so whatever happens is fine.
I just...
How?
How do you get there?
Like, it's just unconscionable.
It just really is.
dan friesen
I don't disagree.
jordan holmes
Like, for all their screaming about pedophilia, it's fine if teenagers get killed, though, because they're black and that means they're bigger or whatever.
Fuck off.
Unreal.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's pretty breathtaking.
And the ability for content that is this racist to not be, like...
It's amazing that it exists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it really is.
dan friesen
It's shocking.
That it exists and isn't dealt with in the proper context.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You know, like, it's not related to as, like, this might as well be a Klan show.
jordan holmes
No, it's 100% a Klan show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Granted, sometimes it's a milder Klan show.
Sometimes they talk about other things.
jordan holmes
Well, I'm sure the Klan had to talk about, like, anniversaries and, oh, like, we have a new kid.
dan friesen
Maybe Bitcoin comes up from time to time.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But, man, this is some pretty out-in-the-open racist shit.
jordan holmes
That's unreal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's just unreal.
dan friesen
But if you were to ask Alex, he has a completely different idea.
He thinks his show is, like, full of sophisticated information.
unidentified
Really?
alex jones
I've always believed in the people.
You said you hate them!
It's a populist program to just put out very sophisticated information, but also simple truths at the same time, believing that if you up the level of information, that ups the level of understanding, not dumb the information down.
And dumb down the population of feedback loop.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
But that said, when I do this governmental briefing style, PowerPoints and guests and just go over documents, that is extremely effective, not just with like General Flynn, but I can tell you prime ministers, world leaders, they had CIA boardrooms two weeks ago in our SPARS 2025-2028 report because it was done in a briefing format.
dan friesen
Not a fucking chance.
jordan holmes
I feel like this is a simulation because there's no way a human being could possibly be that unselfaware.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know.
I think he is self-aware.
I just think that's the image that he wants the audience to have of him.
He can't possibly fucking believe that anybody took that shit seriously.
jordan holmes
He cannot possibly believe that.
dan friesen
That Spars video that he did was so fucking offensively clunky.
It was so dumb.
That Mike guy was a total weirdo.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They were taking lines completely out of context, making completely false assertions.
Anybody who actually read it without just already pre-deciding that Alex was right would come away from that like, this doesn't say what you say it says.
There's a CIA fucking boardroom.
Oh my god.
Not a fucking chance.
Here's the thing that I have to say.
I do like the idea.
That Alex thinks that he has another speed.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I do like that idea because I think it's funny when he does that.
jordan holmes
Yes, it is very funny.
dan friesen
I think it's really funny when he tries.
jordan holmes
He thinks he's ramping it up.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he just doesn't have it.
He doesn't have that pitch anymore.
Maybe never did.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But he was certainly better at looking like he did earlier in his career.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But I like that because I would like for him to take this way more seriously because I will too.
jordan holmes
And I do.
dan friesen
And I don't want to talk about, like, conceptions of the devil.
I don't care.
Right, right, right.
I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
You don't even know how fast your fastball goes.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because you've been hanging around 75. Like, sooner or later he's going to get better at batting practice and it's just not happening.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
It's not happening.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
It's frustrating, and I would like you to do some CIA boardroom shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's kind of interesting, though, because once you find out the FBI was listening to Joe Biggs on Antifa protests...
You realize, like, oh, these people are morons.
You know, like, I could buy that the CIA had meetings on it, because I don't know if I trust any of them to do a fundamental Google search at this point.
dan friesen
Let me actually...
jordan holmes
They're all insane!
dan friesen
Let me say this.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
If I worked in the CIA, I might want to have a meeting on it, too, but just for a day off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, guys.
dan friesen
Get some pizza.
jordan holmes
Guys, we got a new Alex.
We got a new Alex, guys.
Get in the boardroom.
We're gonna put it on the big screen.
dan friesen
Ain't no way this is gonna turn into any work.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
So anyway, it's time for the big enchilada.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Let me just give you the big enchilada, then I'll go to your phone calls.
The globalists with their money have got the universities, the banks, the medical system, the media system, the World Council of Churches, almost all the churches are just country club feel-good groups.
I don't care if it's Protestant, Catholic, it doesn't matter.
They've got Hollywood, they've got the EU, they've got radical Islam.
In Orthodox Islam, they've got Israel, they've got South Africa, they've got everybody.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
There's one thing they don't have.
jordan holmes
You?
alex jones
And that's the U.S. military.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Now, the U.S. military's got its own stuff going on.
It's got its own problems, believe me.
jordan holmes
It's getting a divorce.
alex jones
But it's still men and chivalry and to operate at that level, some form of honor.
Even though it's predatory.
And so the globalists want to intimidate it, attack it, cause race riots, to selectively demonize the military and police with these purges to get control of them.
dan friesen
They don't need to.
They have a plan B. There's a fucking super bioweapon release that they can do.
None of this makes sense.
jordan holmes
Why would they have...
dan friesen
They don't need to take over the police.
Also, if Alex's beliefs mean anything, they don't have Russia, right?
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
No.
They've got everything.
dan friesen
They've got everything except the military and the police.
jordan holmes
The United States military and the police.
Which, the fact that you're putting those two together kind of makes you realize what the police is, don't you?
dan friesen
I mean, this is so ridiculous.
I have a hard time...
Like, even taking this seriously.
jordan holmes
The good news is there's still plenty of white nationalists in the U.S. military and the police.
dan friesen
Still a lot of heavily armed weirdos.
jordan holmes
We got plenty of white nationalists really rooting for us to kill people.
So, we got that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
It feels like it just felt like that was what was gonna work for him to say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it just doesn't match with any of the stuff he says normally.
It doesn't make sense why the globalists need the military and the police.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know what I feel like?
I feel like if you're somebody who identifies with the police and the military, you're a fascist.
That's what I would go with.
dan friesen
Again, this is just, like, improvisational storytelling.
And one of the things that, you know, keeps people excited in storytelling is, like, you know, sometimes the hero is doing well.
Sometimes the hero's doing poorly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And when the hero's down, you gotta cheer for him to come back up.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
The hero's journey!
Come on, it's 12 steps!
Or whatever it is.
dan friesen
I think it was a couple weeks ago that Alex was riding pretty high.
They were defeating the globalists.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Killing it.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, they are now losing.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's trouble.
alex jones
I want to give you the honest prognosis.
I'm not like the Q people that tell you everything's fine, we've won the war, and just don't.
We're losing, and everything's collapsing, and we have no future unless you get upset and speak out and take action.
Now, it's because we were winning culturally.
There was a huge awakening.
Great victory.
But now the globalists have taken their whole plan.
And launched it and accelerated their timetable, which is extremely reckless.
jordan holmes
They were ten years behind.
dan friesen
God, you just can't not hear this over and over and over again.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
He's got to get a new bit.
Like, because this bit is tired.
unidentified
It's stale.
jordan holmes
I just don't feel like I can handle this.
Infinite battle between Alex and his evil enemies.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And everybody is either accelerating or decelerating their plans at all times.
Nobody's ever like, let's put our chip...
Yeah, nobody's putting their chips on the table!
Let's fucking do this!
dan friesen
Well, apparently they have, so if it doesn't work this time, I guess they've been defeated.
jordan holmes
Well, then what are they gonna do next?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Eh, me neither.
dan friesen
It'll probably be boring.
And not real.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So, this next clip.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would say...
That this should get Alex institutionalized.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
There's a lot of things that he says that are, like, you know, offensive.
Like, really offensive.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
They should get him shunned, but not institutionalized.
unidentified
Maybe booed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, booed is a good one, yeah.
unidentified
This...
dan friesen
If he really believes this...
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
He should be put in a padded cell.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But I have decided to be Christ-like, and I don't mean that in blasphemy, I'm serious.
I have taken on the sins.
I have taken them on.
I am in a poison vision of the enemy, so I can see the enemy's operations.
dan friesen
So Alex has taken on the sins of humanity.
Alright.
So he can see the globalist's plan, like he's taken on the role of Jesus.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
He's basically Jesus against the globalist.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say.
dan friesen
But this is...
Not blasphemy.
jordan holmes
Alex is very close to declaring himself the new messiah.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's an interesting progression because he was, like, sort of getting more and more comfortable with talking about himself as a prophet over the last six months or so.
jordan holmes
And John the Baptist and Trump was the...
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And now that is not satisfying.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
At all.
jordan holmes
I've got to take that next step.
dan friesen
I must make myself the Christ.
jordan holmes
Look, you can only be a three-star general for so long before you want that next star, baby.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex takes some calls.
jordan holmes
I am the new messiah.
Anyways, let's go to the phones.
dan friesen
Let's go to the calls and let's see if we can talk to a fucking dumb racist.
unidentified
Mainly, I want to get this out of the point.
It's overwhelming to finally talk to you because for decades people have been telling me I was...
Too volatile and paranoid because I've been telling them about all this stuff, except the pedophile stuff.
I didn't have your connections, but about the we're all slaves and China's evil and how everything's propaganda against the white man and everybody thought I was...
I'm talking about all the way back to the 90s and everybody was just telling me I was...
alex jones
Well, what they do is they brand freedom and guns and private property as the white man, and then communism as the black man.
And they go, the black man's good, the white man's bad, but it has nothing to do with white men and black men.
It's all branding.
Does that make sure?
Does that make sense?
unidentified
Yeah, and it's been, I mean, even in commercials, you know, the white man's always an idiot, and I was always showing people how, you know, it always shows people.
Like, abusing white men and women hitting them, and it was just always just...
alex jones
Sure, it goes back to married with children.
Every white man on TV is an idiot.
unidentified
And then several years ago, I heard you for the first time, and I realized I'm not the only person that sees this.
You know, I thought I was, like, cursed with this sight.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So I think the trope of the bumbling husband probably dates back a little further than married with children, but whatever.
jordan holmes
I guess it's better than if they were like, I think we should go back to the honeymooners when it was fine to beat your wife.
dan friesen
Also, if Alec has a problem with the character trope of the dumb husband, he's gonna really hate when he learns about all the other historical characters of people who weren't white.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
In terms of just explaining a little bit of this, one of the reasons there's such a large number of husbands and fathers who are kind of idiots is because it's the easiest way to make Yeah.
comedic premises that are required for a sitcom to work.
Most of the situations the characters get into probably wouldn't happen, or if they did, they would be resolved in way less comical ways if one of the characters in Yeah.
make every show like Father Knows Best, but guess what?
Father Knows Best sucked.
unidentified
It's a trash show.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I also hate the depiction of white people in films being stupid, which is why I hate Breakfast at Tiffany's.
Do you know what I hate about Breakfast at Tiffany's?
The way they treated that poor white man, who was definitely meant to read as white, 100%.
dan friesen
This is not an attack on the white man.
But it does make sense that this guy would have these clearly...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Racist feelings towards media and everything that he experiences is an attack on whites.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he hears Alex and he's like, I've found my people.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
No shit.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's like...
dan friesen
It gets a lot worse.
jordan holmes
How can you...
White people have had it so fucking pathetically easy for so goddamn long that the idea of one appearance in movies or film where the white guy is the bad guy is like, how could anybody do this?
dan friesen
Well, look, you're saying that white people have had it so easy for so long.
Alex would beg to differ.
unidentified
Oh, I'm sure.
dan friesen
Based on his own...
jordan holmes
Millions and millions of dollars?
alex jones
Brother, I mean, listen, there's not any black people that have been attacked.
Let's not exaggerate.
75 times by white people, I have.
But I actually enjoyed it.
I mean, I grew up with black folks trying to kill me, and I learned how to fight really good.
In fact, people ask how Alex Jones did all this.
I owe this to black racists beating the living shit out of me.
I mean, I have just, and I started hospitalizing a lot of black people, and they pretty soon started appreciating me.
And I love those folks.
I love the ones even I put in commas.
dan friesen
Yeesh.
jordan holmes
I want to go back to whistling.
Do you remember when he whistled, Dan?
I appreciated the whistling.
That was great.
Oh, that's what they should do.
If he gets on too much of a racist rant, they should just start playing the Andy Griffith theme, and he'll be like, okay.
dan friesen
And they should get one of those intermission-type images.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes!
Let's all go to the lobby!
dan friesen
No, it's photoshopped Alex's face onto Andy Griffith, holding hands with young Richie Cunningham.
unidentified
Yes, yes!
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's great.
dan friesen
Little Opie carrying a fishing pole.
jordan holmes
What a piece of shit.
Yeah, he's the worst.
What an absolute piece of shit.
dan friesen
He is the worst.
jordan holmes
Hey, I'm a huge racist, but also I'm gonna brag about how good I am and about how I defeated them in fights and put them in comas.
Sure.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
What a fucked up dude.
alex jones
But I'm just saying, I wouldn't be who I was if I wasn't put in the hospital and broken legs and broken arms and subdermal hematomas and stabbed and everything else I did.
I really want to thank black people for what they did to me.
I'm serious.
dan friesen
Alright, I'm not gonna pretend to not understand the point Alex is trying to make here poorly.
unidentified
Oh boy.
dan friesen
This is the old idea of being, like, battle-hardened, and Alex is thankful for the struggles that he went through that made him who he is today.
jordan holmes
Boy named Sue.
dan friesen
You hear variations of that from all sorts of people, and I think generally, you know, there's a fine version of it.
robert barnes
Sure.
dan friesen
But what's not fine is the way Alex is ascribing the series of beatings that he got when he was younger to, quote, Black...
Yeah.
As opposed to, quote, specific people he got in fights with.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is generalizing to the larger black population here in a way that is incredibly fucked up.
From listening to this, I'm not actually even sure if Alex realizes he's doing what he's doing, but man, it is embarrassing and real racist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this has been a real fucking highlight reel.
This is a...
dan friesen
It's not been really good.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
I would say that you might as well just come out and be like, yeah, I guess I'm a racist.
dan friesen
I feel like it can't be too far off now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's gotta happen.
And he can try and justify his racism, but you can't pretend that you're not.
It's too late for that now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
We have one last clip here, and it's to get a little bit of a, you know...
A little bit of parsley, perhaps.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But Alex has this caller who's calling in from Brooklyn, right?
One of the last holdouts in Brooklyn.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Stronghold.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Read that how you will.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
I live in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.
It's an Irish, Norwegian, Italian, German area.
It's like the last Republican stronghold in Brooklyn.
So what they're doing is they're sending people from Clarksville, other places in Brooklyn, to come in and try and take Bay Ridge over and make it a liberal town.
Also, what they're doing is they're shutting down restaurants.
They're shutting down all the restaurants and letting illegal immigrants sell products in the street, which is crazy to me.
alex jones
Elaborate on that!
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
There it is!
Ooh!
unidentified
Ooh!
dan friesen
It's been a little while since we've heard Alex eating lunch.
jordan holmes
That's a good one.
dan friesen
So that was enjoyable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was nice.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think there was anything else you could really expect from this period other than some pretty...
jordan holmes
Brutal racism.
dan friesen
Some pounding racism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I think it was interesting the way it manifested.
I don't think it made sense based on real-life conditions.
No, no.
And yeah, it sucks.
I'm going to not listen, or I'm going to listen eventually.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
For our next episode, I am going to go back to 2003, because that way, over my birthday weekend, I can spend my time in the past as opposed to focusing too much on the present.
jordan holmes
That is my gift to you, Dan.
dan friesen
And that's my compromise.
But yeah, this sucked.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
Ah, man.
It's like that violent candle, you know?
In order to move forward, we have to get rid of this bullshit.
We gotta not do this anymore.
But while we're fighting it, they're fighting so much.
So fucking hard.
It's insane.
It's insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know what to do.
jordan holmes
Fuck racists.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back.
But, Jordan, until then, we have a website and all that stuff.
Indeed.
More importantly, let's go out on a positive note.
jordan holmes
Ooh, we gotta hear it.
dan friesen
And this is another track from DJ Danarchy.
jordan holmes
DJ Danarchy, hell yeah.
dan friesen
Thank you so much for creating this.
We'll catch you next time.
Daryl Rundis, blah, blah, blah.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
Dan and Jordan.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
It's time to break.
unidentified
We are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
jordan holmes
Need money.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
unidentified
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to break.
Andy and Kansas.
on the air face rolling.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
Knowledge Fight.
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