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April 19, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#550: April 16, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how the last week wrapped up on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex discusses the Human Resources problems of the Globalists, advocates swimming in sewage, and reveals new developments in his religious narcissism.

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a
alex jones
13:45
d
dan friesen
34:03
j
jordan holmes
16:30
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robert barnes
01:46
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
Stop it.
unidentified
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your room.
unidentified
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Mr. Friesen!
dan friesen
Mr. Holmes.
jordan holmes
Mr. Friesen!
dan friesen
Mr. Holmes.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is granola, baby.
unidentified
Ooh!
jordan holmes
What's that say?
Lore Crunch?
dan friesen
This is Love Crunch.
jordan holmes
Love Crunch.
dan friesen
Found it at the store.
This is espresso vanilla cream granola.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
The balls you have to have to name your business Love Crunch.
dan friesen
Jordan, this is so good.
It's inspired by the Italian affogato, which is made with espresso and ice cream.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
It's very good.
It's nice.
I'm trying to...
I had like this period, I think I talked about it in some previous Bright Spots, where I was going for these bizarre ass cereals, you know, like the fruity...
Oh, yes.
jordan holmes
The Dunkin' Donuts.
The coffee Dunkin' Donuts ones.
Yeah, that's gonna happen, yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm trying to get back onto a more like, alright, I've indulged my inner child a little bit here.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And even this, I'll admit, this is, I mean, it's an espresso vanilla cream situation.
So it's not like it's...
The hardest core granola.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I'm working in that direction.
I feel like my breakfasts could be better served.
jordan holmes
I'm glad it's based on an Italian something as opposed to...
dan friesen
Affogato!
jordan holmes
Because it sounds a little bit like a song a hair metal band would have released in the 80s.
He's talking about like, Love Crunch!
unidentified
I love my love!
dan friesen
Isn't that Nazareth?
Love hurts?
jordan holmes
Could be.
Could be.
Something along those lines.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Oh, my bright spot, Dan.
I'm assuming some people have found out by now.
We were in the New York Times.
How fun is that?
That's nice.
dan friesen
Super bizarre.
jordan holmes
That's fun!
dan friesen
If I hadn't been aware that this was coming, I would be like, this is...
Yeah.
It's very bizarre.
It's very bizarre.
Thank you to...
jordan holmes
It's fun.
unidentified
It's fun.
jordan holmes
It's silly.
dan friesen
All right.
So, Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about April 16th, 2021, Blackjack.
jordan holmes
Ah, shit!
dan friesen
This is Friday's episode of Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And, you know, it's not great.
It's not.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
It may not be the most groundbreaking of episodes.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But there are a couple things that happen that are breathtaking.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
That are amazing.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And good teachable moments.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
We'll get down to business on that here in a second, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's great.
dan friesen
So first, the Reverend Dr. Sorrow.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much, RDS!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, 1776 was a false flag.
The British are the globalists.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Thought-provoking.
dan friesen
I think Alex might agree with half of that.
jordan holmes
I think he might have said that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Borderline, yeah.
dan friesen
And a couple of technocrat shout-outs to throw out William V. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Thomas C. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare...
Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you, Willie, and thank you, Tomas.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, I had to cut the wonk shoutouts a little bit short on this episode because we have another little bit of business that we have to get to.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
It's very important.
alex jones
Of course.
dan friesen
And that is that tomorrow, Tuesday, is 420.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that means that it is the official end of the year of the Seltzer.
jordan holmes
That's true!
It is the official end of the year of the Seltzer.
Where did we wind up?
You got 350, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, right around 350.
unidentified
That's great!
dan friesen
For people who maybe have found the podcast more recently...
unidentified
Last year, you've got lore to catch up on.
dan friesen
I decided that I was going to drink 500 seltzers in that year.
It was kind of something just to put a smile on our face because it seemed like there was going to be this period where there was the COVID.
I didn't think it was going to go as long as it took.
jordan holmes
I did not either.
dan friesen
I just kind of thought like, yeah, this will be a way to kill some time.
I'll drink a bunch of Bacroix and all these weird flavors of things.
Look, a year is too long for a novelty.
alex jones
Goof?
jordan holmes
It was very much an emotional rollercoaster ride, because it started off as a goof.
Then, a few weeks later...
dan friesen
It started off as a goof with a lot of energy behind it.
jordan holmes
That's true.
No, well, a few weeks later, what I'm saying is, you got into it.
And all of a sudden, it started being a lot of seltzers just popping up all over the place.
And then, what was it?
Probably about six months ago.
dan friesen
I got a hot tip on a seltzer.
We gotta go to the south side to find it.
jordan holmes
It was about six months ago that your enthusiasm dropped down.
And then there was a little bounce back.
It was like the stock market.
It dropped far, there's a little bounce back, and then it's gone.
dan friesen
Well, I can say that a big part of it is the difficulties involved with COVID.
And then some personal life stuff kind of disenchanted me a lot over a period of months.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And, uh...
jordan holmes
A year is too long.
dan friesen
A lot of seltzers are not very different.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think you could make it to a year and 500 if you were on, like, a Japanese game show where you had to live in a place where there's nothing but seltzers for a year.
dan friesen
If someone brought me all of the seltzers and I was, like, sipping, like, oh, 50, who gives a shit?
Like, in those circumstances, I definitely could have tried 50, but after you try so many, it's like, I don't know, this is fine.
It sucks, but it's not that bad.
It's not great.
You really lose the enthusiasm to hunt down new seltzers.
And once you've already had everything that's at every store within a couple miles of your house, and you can't find anything else on Amazon, it just becomes a real...
I mean, it was a stupid idea from the beginning.
jordan holmes
No, but I mean, you know, all of our ideas are somewhat stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that was a good one.
dan friesen
I'm glad I tried.
I learned a few things.
One is the wide, wide world of these seltzers.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's so many.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And the ones that are more tea-like are better, I think.
I enjoy them more.
That's fair.
They have more depth of flavor.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so, hooray.
And in honor of ending the year of the seltzer.
Yes, sir.
I'm ending it with my novelty beverage for today, which is, listener, Amani, sent some Sunwink Sparkle Herbal Tonics.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I've tried the one that is, I believe, turmeric.
And that one was alright.
It's got a little spice to it.
jordan holmes
Is it turmeric or turmeric?
dan friesen
I think it's pronounced turmeric, but there is an R in there.
jordan holmes
That infuriates me.
dan friesen
Yeah, it might be a silent R. We can continue.
So this is Sunwink Lemon Rose Uplift.
I feel like now's a good time for some uplifting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
Lemon Rose, taking a sip.
I noticed you playing around with that bottle before the show, and normally you have a bit of an energy drink going on there.
And how did you do?
dan friesen
It was really good.
jordan holmes
It was really good?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's very tea-like.
It's reminiscent of those ones that had flour.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess rose.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, that would make sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, good.
jordan holmes
Those were real good.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So thank you, Imani, and thank you everybody who has enjoyed the year of the seltzer.
I don't know if I'm going to do a year of anything else ever again.
jordan holmes
I doubt it.
dan friesen
I learned a valuable lesson.
jordan holmes
There's definitely that.
dan friesen
It's humiliating.
jordan holmes
Think of it, you got to around 350 seltzers.
If you had set your goal for 300 seltzers, you wouldn't have made 350.
dan friesen
500 was such an attractive number, though.
jordan holmes
It's a nice round number.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, look, I achieved something.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
Maybe?
jordan holmes
Probably.
Let the viewer decide.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, today, April 16th.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
Ides of March.
jordan holmes
I'm still writing June on my checks.
dan friesen
So here we go.
We're going to start off with Alex talking about some headlines.
And then getting into something that is very bad news for us, as you know we are the tech guys.
alex jones
Now, they denied all of this in mainline publications until a few years ago, and now they run the same headline every week.
For the first time, animal-human clones have been made.
That's always to...
It's in the test tube, it's embryonic, and that's just a...
Condition, condition, condition, condition.
The CIA was quoted in the Washington Post back in 1999 that, oh, we're funding the body modification and tattoo and earring movement.
Doesn't mean it's bad or good or anything.
jordan holmes
All the things you said, all the things you said.
alex jones
To get you ready for implantable chips.
This is all actually in different publications.
They admit all of this.
dan friesen
Yep, the CIA encouraged everyone to get earrings and tattoos.
jordan holmes
It's really weird for the CIA to finally start admitting stuff and choose the stuff that I guess would take them down the most.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But, you know, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know about this.
Also, the latest news in the animal-human hybrid front is that there was an article published in the journal Cell, where researchers injected human stem cells into monkey embryos, which then they observed growing.
Three of the embryos survived up to 19 days, but they didn't create clones or anything like Alex is saying.
This is a field of study, but it's not what Alex is describing, and the scientific community is far from reaching a consensus on it.
There are tons of debates that go on about the ethics or even the need.
I would constantly demand for him to explain to me why we can't photosynthesize.
Why can't we get a human that has photosynthesis?
jordan holmes
I would like to know!
I feel like we should!
dan friesen
I really think he had a compelling, full answer, and I was too high to remember what it was.
unidentified
Wow, of course.
dan friesen
Of course.
I don't remember.
jordan holmes
Considering you've heard it many times, too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, this story, you know, the whole thing about the human-animal hybrids and stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is something that people like to take as an example of, actually, Alex, he's right all along, man.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But the important thing to remember is that his version of this research, it doesn't match what actually exists.
The stories that he tells are...
Different than reality.
jordan holmes
Just remember, we were talking about fish-human hybrids in tanks with sad human eyes.
dan friesen
Exactly.
That's the kind of stuff that Alex talks about.
And he claims that he's seen them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's been to the tanks.
jordan holmes
We're not talking about injecting embryos.
We're talking about full-grown fishmen.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Wandering around our seas.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's, you know, it's very attractive for people to take headlines and then, like, sort of out-of-context snippets of things Alex said.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
See?
Right all along.
jordan holmes
Showed you.
dan friesen
It's not really accurate.
It's a fun game, though, and I applaud people for playing it.
So, you know, if you want to be someone who plays this game, that Alex is right about everything, I have bad news.
We will all be dead soon.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
There is a scientific global dictatorship that is breaking away from humanity, and that as it breaks away, it extracts all the resources of the old civilization, poisons us, dumbs us down, divides us, and conquers us.
Puts us back into the jungle, the urban jungle, and then wipes us out.
jordan holmes
We've got fun and games.
alex jones
And by the time that they finally wipe everybody out, which is coming very soon, in a cascade of crises they orchestrate but pose as the saviors, those of us that haven't joined them, it'll be very hard-pressed for us to survive without joining them.
And those of us that haven't joined them...
We'll still only survive because the globalists killed everybody.
So, we're not on their side, but if you're able to make the right moves and be prepared, you might be able to survive and not join them.
But I think God isn't going to like that.
God doesn't like cowards, so I think it's just surviving.
We have to stop this thing from happening.
dan friesen
This is very weird.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it seems strange for him to say that God wouldn't like that, considering the most popular Christian book series ever written was about the small number of survivors who made it through the evil apocalypse.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was globalist shit, though, man.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, that's fair.
dan friesen
Kirk Cameron's a globalist.
jordan holmes
My bad.
My bad!
Nope, I fucked it up.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's an interesting version of Alex's fear narratives.
It's like, okay, so...
Kill-off event is about to happen very soon.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
Because the globalists are taking over and blah, blah, blah.
jordan holmes
Any moment now.
dan friesen
So it's coming up almost immediately, and you are probably going to die.
But if you make the right moves, there's a way that you can survive.
Now, some of the right moves that are the wrong moves are joining with the globalists.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
That's bad.
But you could survive if you did that.
jordan holmes
Even though, why would you since everybody you've ever known and cared for is dead?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
But you cannot join the globalists and still survive if you get really lucky and do all the right moves, but God will be mad.
jordan holmes
Then you're going to hell!
dan friesen
God's gonna be mad.
jordan holmes
So you can die in the apocalypse, or you can survive it for a little while with no one you've ever met, but either way, you're going to hell.
dan friesen
But I guess that this implies that there's a third or fourth, fifth option, and that is fighting to stop this.
jordan holmes
Somehow stopping it, yeah.
dan friesen
But it doesn't matter.
The globalists have a plan B. Alex has already explained that.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
It doesn't seem to be a good fight at this point.
dan friesen
No, this is really dumb.
So, you know, I think that there are jobs in the world.
That have more staying power for people.
jordan holmes
Careers.
dan friesen
Sure, if you're in a career that takes a long time to master, let's say.
Maybe there's a lower turnover than some unskilled professions.
Maybe have higher turnover rates.
jordan holmes
Comedian?
High turnover rate.
dan friesen
Quite.
jordan holmes
Very high turnover rate.
dan friesen
Although it should be higher.
Much, much higher.
What do you think about the high-ranking globalists?
jordan holmes
What's their turnover rate?
dan friesen
Yeah, what do you think about that?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
It has to be...
Here's what I think.
I think it's got to be, like, the Politburo level of, like...
It's got to be zero.
No, no, no.
Backstabbing murder all the time.
dan friesen
You're wrong.
alex jones
And I can tell you, the globalists have major turnover with their higher-level people because they really understand, even once they have all the money and the power, that it's empty.
And if they haven't totally turned their souls over...
jordan holmes
They get to keep all the money and power?
alex jones
They then turn against it, but then those people don't have a voice.
They get shut down or they get killed.
dan friesen
Oh, okay, that's convenient.
So, the globalists and the high-ranking levels, they constantly have crises.
They have crises of conscience and realize, nah, fuck this noise, Alex is right.
So they quit, but then they get killed, so what are you gonna do?
jordan holmes
Hey, it's as everybody knows from watching our government function, obviously the people who run the world have consciences that they bend to at all times.
dan friesen
I don't know if I can think of any examples of anybody that Alex has ever discussed who was a high-ranking globalist who turned on the globalists and then got killed.
Although, again, it's a fun story.
jordan holmes
It is a fun story.
dan friesen
And it does explain why there aren't defectors of the globalists.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, they're dead.
dan friesen
Except for, I guess, Leo Zagami, which maybe he should be dead.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If this makes sense.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Mike Lindell got rich and powerful, so he's probably turned against the globalists.
I bet he was a high-ranked globalist.
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't think Mike Lindell's with the globalists.
unidentified
I doubt it.
No.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Also, the topic of Alex's employee who got arrested at the Capitol does come back up a little bit.
Okay.
The MyPillow storyline is not brought back up.
jordan holmes
No longer brought up of him.
dan friesen
It might still be there, but it's not front and center.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So here's the thing.
These globalists who have high turnover rates and then end up having to kill the former employees.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
They're only going to kill you if certain conditions are met.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
alex jones
If you've ever worked for the New World Order and ever signed the contracts with them and ever actually run their operations, then they will kill you if you sidestep them or don't follow their orders or ever try to leave them.
But if you've never sold out to them, it's metaphysical rules, they'll just try to get other people to kill you, but they won't give the order themselves.
Or they will try to kill your name or discredit you or put you in prison.
But they don't often kill you unless you've been involved with them and made some deal with them at some level.
And that's why I've never made any deals with these guys.
dan friesen
That's a protective instinct on his part.
So yeah, you gotta make deals, or else there's gonna be some kind of an infringing of metaphysical rules that sound really dumb.
jordan holmes
I have a lot of problems with this.
dan friesen
Yeah, if the metaphysical rules that govern the universe are so dumb that you can ethically sidestep murder by convincing somebody else to kill somebody, and then you have a totally clean slate, I don't think that these rules are good.
I think that they're ungrounded.
jordan holmes
Give me a second.
Are you telling me that Mark Richards is innocent of all crimes?
He didn't do anything.
According to the metaphysical rules of the universe?
dan friesen
According to the metaphysical rules of the universe.
jordan holmes
I think there might be a flaw in this metaphysical rule.
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think there could be.
dan friesen
Yep.
I don't know what I feel about this other than any time he brings up these metaphysical rule ideas, I just want to know more.
I want him to actually get into the ethical underpinnings of this and really break down what...
Must be true within this ethical system.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
If he were capable, the one thing that I want from him is a full accounting of his metaphysics beliefs.
dan friesen
It's just brought out whenever things are convenient.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I want a book of him codifying.
I want Alex Jones' version of the Bible.
That's what I want.
dan friesen
I don't.
jordan holmes
Oh, wow, that's fair.
dan friesen
I definitely don't.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
It's all caps.
So, Alex has all these ideas about how the news about human-animal hybrids and stuff, it's not what they're saying.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
It's not that there were human stem cells and embryos and whatever.
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Fish people in the oceans.
dan friesen
Technology is 50 years ahead of where it actually is, all this stuff.
And you know what?
You know who thinks they know what's up but don't?
jordan holmes
The globalists?
dan friesen
Fucking military intelligence.
jordan holmes
Oh, those idiots.
alex jones
People talking about army intelligence or the military intelligence.
They don't know any of this.
jordan holmes
It's an oxymoron, am I right?
alex jones
This Q stuff at the highest level is military intelligence.
That's totally compartmentalized to archaic weapons.
Atomic weapons are 120 years old.
They had all the equations 120 plus years ago.
That's all Pinkertoy stuff.
That's all, that's all, that's being phased out.
They're getting rid of the human military.
By 2030, there really won't be many humans left in the military.
And they have all these Hollywood movies about super soldiers, these really cool, badass guys.
And you like the new movie, Nobody.
You know, he's so tough.
None of that exists.
It's all gone.
It's all over.
It's all robots.
It's all clones.
dan friesen
It's all robots and clones in the future.
jordan holmes
It's all robots and clones in the future.
dan friesen
Fun.
jordan holmes
All right.
So I guess you saw Bob Oden, Kirk, and Nobody.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So that's nice.
It's a good movie.
dan friesen
I bet it is.
jordan holmes
It's a good movie.
dan friesen
I think Bob Odenkirk has a lot of range that's been unexplored, and I'm excited for him.
jordan holmes
He's incredibly great.
dan friesen
I think, you know, it's kind of an interesting dilemma, because you do see the possibility of a future where a lot of warfare is done by way of robots.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course.
dan friesen
You know, drones certainly are a big problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're already there to a smaller extent.
dan friesen
But if things escalate towards the point where, like, actual troops are...
Right.
Then eventually you're going to get to a point where a negotiation between countries that is robots fighting robots is really just a financial thing.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's like, I'm destroying more of your property, which is robots.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And then it almost has a potential to be like, well, we could negotiate through this easier than fighting.
So, I don't know, I haven't fully thought it through, but it's an interesting thing that almost seems like it would lead to a vast reduction in war.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, I think there have been a lot of really interesting, because that's something that I've read about, you know, that's one of those things that futurists have been describing since, you know, Kurt Vonnegut, you know, like that kind of stuff.
And there's a lot of people who are like, war doesn't mean anything if there aren't people dying.
So you can't really do it.
It'd be like a video game at that point.
It's just like, are you better at video games?
I have a hundred more robots than you, so mathematically I win before we even fight.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess it doesn't relate to robot drones and stuff like bombing apartment buildings or something.
It doesn't relate to that, my thought.
There's still a devastating human toll associated with that.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know about the clones part.
jordan holmes
What would clones be doing in this scenario?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Have you seen the prequels?
The Star Wars prequels?
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, but ultimately clones are not as good, you know.
dan friesen
Seems like a massive investment if you're going to use them for warfare.
jordan holmes
No, it's like, look, but here's the thing.
If you're building robots, you know, we're not thinking about...
Atts, because those are stupid.
They're giant, lumbering moron machines.
dan friesen
I have bad news.
I am thinking about atts.
unidentified
Small?
jordan holmes
Small?
Quick mobility?
All of these things.
Human beings don't stand a chance against those actual military.
dan friesen
Those terrifying things you see videos of every now and again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yep.
robert barnes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Alex has some complaints about the Pope.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Pope Francis, those full communists are sharing.
Prosperity is not communism, but pure Christianity.
But they're going to direct how you share.
And, of course, all the big bankers pay no tax until lecture you all day.
dan friesen
No idea what the bankers have to do with the Pope's opinions.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess they don't pay taxes at the Vatican either?
dan friesen
Also, I have great news for Alex.
The Pope was arrested a year ago.
jordan holmes
He was.
dan friesen
He's been gone for a while.
jordan holmes
This is the fake Pope that Alex is complaining about now.
dan friesen
Don't worry about what this Pope is saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a puppet.
dan friesen
Francis is behind jail bars.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets to talk and hear a little bit about the...
The old COVID vaccines.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think he says something that I find flagrantly irresponsible.
alex jones
You've got all these countries that have stopped the Pfizer shot, all these companies that have stopped the AstraZeneca, all these ones that have stopped J&J.
You've got all these deaths, not one death.
Look, one woman died.
You actually go look at the reporting system.
It's like 3,000 here, 2,000 there, 5,000 there.
They estimate between 1 in 10 and 1 in 100.
They're not sure.
It varies.
Country to country are actually reporting the deaths as COVID.
But it is...
COVID vaccine killing them.
dan friesen
This is a gigantic, unsupported claim that Alex is making.
If he has some kind of evidence that the COVID vaccines are responsible for a high number of deaths that are being called COVID-19 deaths, then he can't just assert it and wave his hand to some vague, unspecified statistics that varies from country to country.
He knows that he can't back this claim up, which is why even what he's saying is a meaningless, nonsense assertion.
The difference between 1 in 10 and 1 in 100 is huge.
That's an irresponsible spectrum to be pointing to.
jordan holmes
It might be a little bit.
dan friesen
Anyway, I'm gonna need to see the sources on this, and until I do, I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume it's his dumb imagination, as usual.
jordan holmes
It's either ten or a thousand percent more!
No idea which.
Could be anything, honestly.
dan friesen
So, on our last episode, we got a meeting of the minds between Alex and Fresh.
A hot-on-the-scene comedian, Norm Pattis.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Lawyer.
jordan holmes
He's finally breaking out of this law game to pursue his real passion of stand-up comedy.
dan friesen
Yep.
He's not even going to be able to be the funniest lawyer, because that's...
Every comedy scene already has that.
jordan holmes
We've already got a funniest lawyer in Chicago, at least.
dan friesen
So, not to be outdone by the shitheadery of Norm coming on, Alex's other lawyer buddy, Barnes, is gonna be on this episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
You can't have Pattison without Barnes being like, you gotta book me soon!
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's gotta come on, and this is where Alex teases that they're gonna talk about how the Chauvin trial is nonsense.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
alex jones
Coming up today, Robert Barnes is going to be looking at the insane Chauvin trial up in Minnesota, and when he thinks that's going to end, and no doubt every major city is going to be lit up like a Christmas tree, and they're not the type you put cookies and milk out for Santa for.
It's going to be lit up with fire.
And why are the communists doing this?
It's part of the takeover of the police.
They're not getting rid of the police.
They are bullying them.
Using any bad event that happens.
Oh my God, we've had three days of riots and a guy, an armed robbery suspect for robbing a woman, waving guns around everywhere, is then attacking the police and in the melee, the cop pulls the wrong weapon and shoots him.
What do you think happens when you go into riots and high-speed car chases?
But now, you see, we've got to have more riots for that trial.
We've got to have more.
It just goes on and on.
But if you're a good globalist police department, if you do everything the New World Order says and arrest their political enemies, become commissars under Strong Cities Initiative that Obama launched, directly directed by the UN, well, then you're in like Flynn.
So that's coming up.
Separately, ladies and gentlemen, where is it?
Here it is.
This is your last three-day chance to get the really highest quality liquid multivitamin mineral system with amino acids as well.
dan friesen
There's going to be riots and fires all over the city.
Got it.
Add pivot.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Fun.
You know, you work people up about, hey, this ain't the fun Christmas tree with cookies and milk.
And separately, let me get these vitamins.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, don't turn around, Dan.
Derek Hamasar is in town.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're in trouble.
dan friesen
So Alex has a story that he hits on a number of times throughout the show, and that is that Maxine Waters apparently told Jim Jordan to shut his mouth.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Seated in the chambers.
It's a very uncongressional...
Language.
jordan holmes
I would have preferred she beat the shit out of him with a cane, because we've got one.
dan friesen
There is a precedent of that happening, I guess.
unidentified
We've got one, okay?
jordan holmes
I think there's an even...
Look, we've got one.
You get to beat an anti-abolitionist borderline to death in Congress.
That's the rule.
dan friesen
I think Alex might have the wrong angle on this.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Let me do this.
I want to get into this Jim Jordan thing, and Maxine Waters telling him, shut up.
In fact, let's go to the end first.
Let's go to her telling him to shut up.
And imagine if a white guy was telling a black lady shut up.
dan friesen
That's like half of Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, you are always telling black women to shut up.
It's the most important thing to you.
dan friesen
Yeah, anytime there's some kind of social justice related activism.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Tells people to shut up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, just shut up.
Can you imagine if there was some sort of football player who was blackballed from the league for speaking out very obvious truths that seem so obvious that no one should be even borderline punished for that?
Imagine if a white guy told that guy to shut up.
dan friesen
People would be furious.
We're going to get some flagrantly racist stuff about Kaepernick a little bit later.
jordan holmes
Of course we are!
Why wouldn't we?
Why wouldn't we?
dan friesen
It's funny you should bring him up as an example.
jordan holmes
While we're here!
dan friesen
So, back to COVID matters.
Here's Alex saying some dumb shit.
alex jones
And even a year ago, they admitted 94% of COVID deaths were something else.
It's the same thing in England.
It's the same scam everywhere.
Because it was never really COVID, folks.
It was pneumonia or the flu.
So in 6%, it was an actual virus.
In 94%, it was heart attack or cancer.
But the hospitals code it as COVID to get the $53,000.
dan friesen
So this is just Alex misrepresenting how there was a figure that came out where it was like 6% of COVID-19 deaths didn't involve a person who had an understatement.
underlying condition that might have contributed to the death.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Considering that things like obesity or smoking could be underlying conditions, this isn't surprising.
Alex and his ilk have just used that stat incorrectly for a year to argue that the death numbers are artificial.
Right.
unidentified
Now, I was thinking about this, and like...
dan friesen
You know, that idea that the hospitals are in on a get-rich-quick scheme because there's a certain amount that they get paid out by Medicare, Medicaid, based on COVID-19 patients?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that tremendously stupid idea about that?
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was just thinking about it, and, like, does Alex think that those, like, hospitals don't get payments for other conditions?
Like, does he think that, like, someone getting, like, if they have, like, an aggressive cancer that they need treatment, does he think that...
These programs don't also pay out.
jordan holmes
What you're not understanding, and I don't know if you've been to a hospital in a while.
They pay everything on a flat $100 fee.
So if you've got cancer, you're taking all kinds of stuff and they pay $100 for it.
dan friesen
It's been a while since I've been to a hospital.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
They switched it.
jordan holmes
It's super weird, but it's $100 for everything but COVID.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's one of these days I'm actually going to sit down and try and figure out what other payouts are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
Here we go.
jordan holmes
Ah, let's do this.
dan friesen
But that may be needed for another day, because today, we're gonna get in to Operation Cyber Polygon.
jordan holmes
Ooh, now you're excited!
dan friesen
I'm also lying.
He doesn't bring it up at all.
unidentified
God damn it, Dan!
jordan holmes
You son of a bitch!
dan friesen
No, no, Alex doesn't bring up.
jordan holmes
You always have to then, like when you're excited and you get a letdown, you have to just pass it on to me.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is a little bit mean of me and maybe I just want you to feel that disappointment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, we gotta share in it.
We're a team, we're partners, we gotta share in that disappointment.
dan friesen
So instead of getting into that, Alex just complains about things he imagined that Anthony Fauci said.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
You can play the clips once you're vaccinated.
You can go out and not wear a mask and go to restaurants.
That's Fauci.
That's what they all said worldwide.
Now, oops, sorry, doesn't work.
Because they've had you under their control for a year.
They've doubled their wealth.
They're taking over.
They're not going to stop.
They're bad people.
dan friesen
So this is mostly about defending Tucker Carlson about attacks that have been made against him for his...
His segment that he had where he was talking about like, hey, I was told that we could go back to normal once people were vaccinated.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
I thought he was talking about the white replacement one.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
We've moved on from that?
You can just get white replacement for like a week?
dan friesen
He lets Harrison Smith defend that.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
So I think people might have gotten the sense that things would immediately return to normal after a vaccine was released, but that's not what was being said by experts, including Dr. Fauci.
This is a strawman position that the right-wing media types like Alex and Tucker have been using recently to argue against vaccination while pretending that they have some kind of a principled point.
It's basically a child whining that their parent promised to buy them a pony if they got good grades when the parent said no such thing.
In December 2020, Fauci said, quote, let's say we get 75%, 80% of the population vaccinated.
If we do that, if we do it efficiently through the second quarter of 2021, by the time we get to the end of the summer, i.e.
the third quarter, we may actually have enough herd immunity protecting our society that when we get to the end of 2021, we can approach very much some degree of normality that is close to where we were before.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's what he was saying at the end of 2020.
jordan holmes
No, at every point in time, they've said, even after you've been vaccinated, continue to wear a mask, not least of which to stop the spread, but also just to make it fine for people to wear masks outside.
dan friesen
In September, Fauci told Healthline, quote, we can be greatly helped by vaccines, but it's not vaccine alone.
Let's assume that we get a reasonably effective vaccine, not measles vaccine where you have a 98% effective.
I think that would be too much to ask for.
But let's talk about 75, 80 percent effective vaccine, which would be really good if we did that.
If we did that and we ultimately got everyone who should be and could be vaccinated, I would think that together with not necessarily abruptly ending measures like masks and physical distance, We could get the majority of the community to adopt those health measures together with a reasonably effective vaccine, then we could get the level of infection down so low in the community that by the third quarter end of 2021, we could start thinking in terms of normal.
Alex and his idiot friends don't live in reality.
They've fabricated a fake one that adheres to the storylines that they want to tell and that they profit off of.
Alex's story about the vaccine is that the globalists are trying to force it on everyone.
So it's essential for that story to involve an explicit promise from the villains of the story that if everything will go back to normal just as soon as you take my evil vaccine.
That's the story that he tells for a living.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You can see by the false portrayals.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Silly.
What a dick.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I think it's important to recognize a few things.
One of them is that I'm willing to address and talk about, like, factual issues, like, you know, Cyber Polygon.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
If you were to bring it up.
Or these other big operational lockstep nonsense.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Spars!
dan friesen
Spars, sure, that was recent.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm very happy to engage in those things.
I will also say that anybody who wants to take Alex Jones as someone who is a good purveyor of information will also have to explain this kind of thing.
alex jones
And I know God's real.
I'm going to leave it at that.
I have always had a connection to God.
I was born again when I was probably about eight, nine years old.
But I have been having experiences now that I'm going to keep private, but I'm going to tell you are biblical.
You hear about the Holy Ghost, the Comforter, and all the rest of that?
I am now routinely having experiences that now I would be pleased to be crucified upside down or tortured for five years for this, okay?
I mean, I can just flip a switch in my brain now and go right to Valhalla.
And so I am transcending these Satanists, and I am so thankful to God because I've been in a lot of pain and really upset over them and really taking it on and getting very depressed, and I just prayed to God the last few months.
To take the worry away, and I'll fight harder than ever.
And I've done that, and now I am really now experiencing the Holy Ghost.
And it is, oh my God, it's so good.
Wow.
I mean, we're talking 50 times what I've ever experienced.
Because, I mean, you start crying getting near God and close to the door, but man, I've gone in the door now.
And, I mean, I've...
I'll tell you part of it.
I mean...
jordan holmes
I thought you were going to keep it private.
alex jones
Man, I have these dreams now that are just intense ecstasy.
And I'm in heaven.
And trying to describe the beauty of it and the purity of it and the level of this is just like you're in God's mind.
dan friesen
It's all good and well to have religious beliefs and stuff.
It's not normal to believe that you're having visions of being in heaven when you dream.
jordan holmes
Everyone!
Everyone!
I am waking up having just been sucked off by an angel.
Are you shitting me?
This is ecstasy.
I thought women were great.
dan friesen
This is lunatic level behavior.
jordan holmes
Archangel Michael visits me at night and gives me handies.
alex jones
I've been in the God's mind.
jordan holmes
It turns out all angels are gay, by the way.
dan friesen
I think that this is silly.
And I think this is stupid.
And anybody who wants to take Alex as any kind of sincere...
A good faith actor in the sense of the conversation about ideas.
Let's talk about this being the way he sees himself.
But even that's kind of maybe a personal attack and what have you.
jordan holmes
Well, all I heard him say was, I am having good dreams lately.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So that's nice.
dan friesen
But he puts so much more import on it than just someone saying, I've had good dreams.
jordan holmes
A little bit.
dan friesen
And then the other thing about it that I think is much more functional and grounded is...
Alex says at the beginning that he was born again at 8 or 9 when we know that he was a Satanist.
jordan holmes
Yep.
To his teens.
This timeline doesn't work.
When you were born again at 8 or 9, had you already paid for the abortions?
Or would that come later?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Is this before or after the Satanists tried to lure you and you were a functional Satanist until you were 18?
jordan holmes
Listen, I was a Satanist for a while.
I was born again at 8 or 9. I was a Satanist at...
Look.
If you're not a Satanist when you're young, you have no heart.
dan friesen
The problem with stories like this that are obviously fucking artificial and not true and played up for the presentation of this, the person that Alex wants the people to see him as, is you can't keep it straight.
Like, it just doesn't make sense.
His timeline is ridiculous.
So yeah, he was born again at eight, and then went to the devil for a little while, and then came back.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's why all mythologies wound up in books, because they were like, eh, I'm telling you, I think Zeus did it this way.
And somebody else was like, nah, nah, nah, Zeus is crazy, man.
Eventually, you gotta put it in a book, otherwise nobody's gonna agree.
dan friesen
Oral tradition has a way of changing stories a little bit over time, because of the different ways the different tellers would tell stories.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
So this goes on.
Alex keeps talking like a deranged lunatic.
Well, we have different words.
jordan holmes
Well, that's fair.
alex jones
And it is just, I mean, last night, man, I woke up really upset about 2 a.m. and everything.
I'm like really upset about the world and really upset.
And I said, God, I'm going to pray.
I'm going to go back to sleep.
Please, please help me.
And man, it was just unbelievable.
There's no way to describe this.
And I've never seen any of this in art and literature.
There's a lot of stuff I've seen in movies and culture.
Other humans have seen that archetype.
I'm seeing stuff that has never been seen on this planet.
And you can say, oh, your mind created that.
Well, then, wow, that's quite a mind.
But I'm telling Satanists, you are missing out.
You have no idea what you're missing out on.
It's unbelievable.
All right, I'm getting metaphysical, and I'm going to stop right there.
All I'm saying is, I want to stay on air.
I need the temporal funds to do this, and we spend a lot of money running this operation.
I pay the crew pretty good, and I don't want to have to do a lot of things here.
I don't want to cut back.
I want to expand.
So go to infowarstore.com.
dan friesen
That's the end of his long rant about the God giving him visions and stuff.
jordan holmes
Satanists have no concept.
Of what it's like.
So what I'm going to do is immediately take the Lord's name in vain and ask for your temporal money.
I am going to tell you all about how great the Lord is.
dan friesen
And how I'm special and have visions inside God's eye.
When I go to bed, when you go to bed, you just maybe have a memory that you replay in your head.
No, I go to heaven.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
And in heaven...
dan friesen
And I need money.
jordan holmes
And then I come back down and I break commandments left and right.
Because I'm so good.
dan friesen
It's great.
It's really great.
Also, I love the idea that he's seen things that have never been seen on Earth.
I want to know what those things are.
That's like a Lovecraftian description of something.
I enjoy that.
Art and literature does not contain these archetypes.
jordan holmes
I get what you're saying, but also, you know, describe what it looked like.
dan friesen
It does not belong in Euclidean geometry.
jordan holmes
I imagine if he described what it looked like, I could probably find some literature or art.
dan friesen
I think he saw an angle that looked acute, but acted as if it was obtuse.
jordan holmes
I looked at the standard model, and it turns out there are more particles.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets into talking about COVID, and how it's a globalist attack, right?
Of course.
Sure.
You know, one of the things I really appreciate about Alex is that he's a man with good priorities.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he knows what, you know, like, if you're going down a track and something more important comes up, you kind of got to go for it.
alex jones
Italian lawmaker calls for the arrest of creepy Bill Gates in charges of crimes against humanity.
And more and more scientists, more and more lawyers are coming out and saying that's what this is, is a medical, weaponized, globalist takeover.
And the sooner we wake up the horror...
And that our acquiescence to tyranny encouraged these monsters to launch this, the sooner we're able to stop it.
That's coming up.
But Brian Stelter is one of the nastiest people on Earth, and he's a liar.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
He's an anti-American.
He's a defamer.
He's somebody that goes around against people deplatformed, like myself.
He literally stalked 20-plus advertisers and ran them off by threatening to do pieces on them and call them white supremacists.
He's a terrorist.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Economic terrorist.
And what he is is a sack of garbage who acts all powerful and manly.
He is America's enemy.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right.
Thought we were going to talk about COVID.
Turns out you're mad at Stelter.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that, of all people, Brian Stelter is our big bad today.
dan friesen
You know, it's super weird to me that you have such a hatred towards Connor Friedersdorf.
You complain about him so much less than Alex does about Brian Stelter.
jordan holmes
I haven't talked about Friedersdorf in a year.
dan friesen
That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
I'm Frieders-free, okay?
That's what I do.
dan friesen
Alex needs to take some cues from you and let it go.
unidentified
Just let it go.
jordan holmes
You don't need to read it.
dan friesen
You don't need to be so mad at Stelter.
Although, if you believe Alex, then his anger and hatred at Stelter is actually paid some dividends.
alex jones
If anything was ever an enemy of the country, it's Brian Stelter.
And I can tell you, my rant from four years ago, calling him enemy of the people, I didn't know this, but a certain national talk show host and others sent it around everybody, and Trump got it, I recently learned, and that's where enemy of the people came from.
So I am kind of the unofficial speechwriter, I guess, at some level for a lot of folks, which I'm very honored to do.
dan friesen
Okay.
So Trump took enemy of the people from Alex when he was talking about the press.
jordan holmes
Look.
A phrase like that has never before been uttered in literature or in any kind of art.
dan friesen
No archetypes.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
That is brand new, straight from Alex's mouth to Trump's ears.
dan friesen
I don't believe this, first of all.
But second of all, if true, not something necessarily brag-worthy.
That's kind of a pretty bad thing.
jordan holmes
No, I gave him a phrase.
dan friesen
So Alex is complaining here about...
Some stuff.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And mic down for this, because I actually think that this is really hilarious.
This is one of the funnier things I've heard in a while.
alex jones
I know.
The average man's watching baseball.
His buddy's eating pizza and drinking beer at a bar tonight.
And that sounds great to me, too, okay?
In fact, if we weren't in so much trouble, I'd be buying season tickets to baseball and football and the NBA.
I love it all.
I like basketball.
I like boxing.
I like the Olympics.
Man, I'd be happier than a pig in you know what if this wasn't.
But I can't do it because the whole thing's coming down on us.
So what I'm doing at night is reading the UN documents.
dan friesen
So here are the reasons I find this hilarious.
The first is that Alex constantly pretends that he hates sports because it's just the media's way of pacifying men's instinct towards conflict and battle.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, that blew me away.
I was like, you hate sports!
dan friesen
He gives a speech about it every single Super Bowl Sunday.
jordan holmes
Everyone.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Everyone.
dan friesen
The second thing that's really funny is how long it took Alex to come up with UN documents.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
What is it that I stay up late reading?
jordan holmes
I am reading...
alex jones
Fuck.
dan friesen
Finally, this is hilarious because this entire show is based on the idea that nothing is ever going back to normal.
And yet here, Alex is decrying how the average man is watching sports at a bar with their friends, which Alex can't do because he's too busy with UN documents.
Should the average people he's mad at not be able to go to a bar and watch sports because of Fauci's dictatorship?
jordan holmes
See, what it is, is the government has you.
They've been keeping you inside for a year, and they want to keep you inside for a year.
Now, obviously, everybody's out and about tonight.
Everybody's having a great old...
dan friesen
Yeah, when anything gets in the way of Alex saying he's exceptional, it is...
jordan holmes
Out of the way as soon as possible.
Alex will give up on any narrative for telling you how great he is.
dan friesen
So, Tucker Carlson is coming under fire from Chelsea Clinton about these vaccine comments.
And Alex does the whole, like, if you're vaccinated, why should you care if I get vaccinated routine?
Which is very dumb, but, you know, it works on folks.
He's doing that.
He's going through this.
And then he remembers the George Carlin bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And this is one of his suggestions.
jordan holmes
Bring Pattison to deliver it.
alex jones
It actually studies that swimming in swamps, in the area you live in, and that means in sewage, is that what we think a swamp is?
It's where the bears and the bees and the buffalo and the deer and the bobcats and the fish.
That's the flora.
Basically, that's the inoculation is Mother Earth.
unidentified
Don't swim in sewage.
dan friesen
This is not good advice.
This is not revolutionary.
Instead of getting vaccinated, it's not a good idea just to jump in.
jordan holmes
So what you want to do, you get this little cocktail, you put some Ebola in it, you're immune to Ebola.
dan friesen
Makes sense.
I shouldn't expect much more from somebody who thinks Mike Adams is a good doctor.
But yeah, don't jump into sewage tanks.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's not good for you.
jordan holmes
And swamps are an ecosystem, not just a toilet.
dan friesen
Right.
There is that as well.
jordan holmes
There's more than just the toilet of swamps.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Swamp thing wasn't poop thing.
jordan holmes
Shit thing.
dan friesen
So this next clip is a little bit rough.
It's a little offensive.
Alex has found a clip from a protest.
I don't really know what all the circumstances are in it.
But from what I can tell from the...
It appears that some organizer at a protest took issue with some of the behavior of one of the white participants of the protest that was probably not in line with what the...
People who are doing the protest wanted to be how things were presented.
jordan holmes
Look, there's a reason people teach you how to protest at these things.
There's a way.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it can be disrespectful to the larger point of the protest if people are working across purposes.
And that's what it seems like is going on in this video.
Alex takes this and gets wildly racist.
alex jones
I don't hate white people because there's some racist white people.
I don't hate black people because there's some racist black people.
I judge people according to what they do, who they are.
That's common sense, like Martin Luther King said.
That's why America believed in what he said, because it was true.
And brotherly love that Christ talked about.
But I have dozens of videos just today of whites being shot, stabbed, beat up because they're white, told, you're not welcome here because you're white.
And the hatred of these young black people's faces is palpable.
But I notice most of the time, and I've looked at some studies on this, they're not even Africans, but where they're like, you know, 100% African.
They're usually mulatto.
They're usually part white.
And now we learn, like, Kaepernick and others, their parents are white liberals and have basically done this to them.
Why is it always white-skinned black folks that are being really anti-white?
There are some really black folks that are doing this.
That's because they have white parents.
They're either adopted or, you know, one of the parents is white.
And the left has done this.
This is their communist revolution, hidden behind black people, so they can do this and claim this for black people's empowerment.
dan friesen
So that's pretty offensive just on the surface level, and I don't feel like we need to break down exactly why that's incredibly fucked up.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you want me to just scream for about 15 straight minutes, yeah.
dan friesen
I also think that if people who've been listening to our show for a while, they'd recognize this isn't necessarily an uncommon sentiment for Alex to express, despite it being horrible.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, if this were the first time that we heard him say that, well, go back and listen to the first times that we've heard him say something.
dan friesen
Jordan started barking and dove out my window.
So the reason I pulled this clip is because the mentality that Alex is espousing, that these people who he's determined are not really black enough for being used to push a communist agenda to attack white people, is exactly, and I mean exactly, the argument that his spiritual predecessors like Gary Allen made when they opposed the civil rights movement.
Allen's book, Communist Revolution in the Streets, lays out this mentality, and it's clear that Alex subscribes to this explanation of any kind.
That's not interesting on its own.
Alex is a dumb bigot.
But what's fascinating is how Alex isn't stupid enough to argue against the civil rights movement, because he knows that he couldn't back up that kind of claim, and it looks a little bit too transparently bigoted through present-day eyes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I was saying a week ago or whatever, is like you can measure the same ideology being forced ever so slowly to be like, fine, you won on civil rights.
Fine, we don't get slaves anymore.
Fine, I'm still going to say the same shit though.
unidentified
I'm going The book Communist Revolution in the Streets is mostly an attack on Martin Luther King Jr.
dan friesen
So forgive me if I think it's a little bit funny for Alex to signal some imaginary support for King's ideas while using the exact same playbook his heroes used to attempt to discredit and demonize King himself while he was alive.
This is bullshit, but it's important to recognize this.
When Alex has glimmers like that, there is severe racism, but it's also these same ideas that have been bubbling under these...
Hard right forces that were in favor of segregation.
They were against the entirety of the civil rights movement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, absolutely.
dan friesen
And it's that same mentality that still underpins Alex, but he's smart enough to know that he would be called some horrible, accurate names if he argued like that.
jordan holmes
But even then, it goes all the way back to fucking slavery.
It goes all the way back to being like, oh, well, see, whenever you allow miscegenation, the...
The ones who are more white are more likely to cause...
And it's just fucking...
It's slavery!
It's the same shit!
dan friesen
Yeah, there's that sort of influence and then this other influence that comes in.
Yeah, it's all just very shocking and horrible.
Anyway, that's, you know, who Alex is.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He's shocking and horrible and a bigot.
dan friesen
It's not necessarily news, but it's important to recognize these things.
jordan holmes
He's a shocking, horrible bigot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, he's been in God's mind.
jordan holmes
Hey, I wonder if it's all white in God's mind.
dan friesen
I bet it is.
jordan holmes
I think it might be, Dan.
dan friesen
So, you might notice from watching Alex's show that all of his guests are complete lunatics who believe mostly the same things he does and say, not only that, but, Alex, hey, aren't you great?
jordan holmes
And they like to flatter him, yeah.
dan friesen
Love to.
jordan holmes
Love to flatter him.
That's how you win.
dan friesen
And you might think, like, why doesn't he have other guests on the show?
jordan holmes
Well, for many reasons.
unidentified
Well, I have a lot of great guests on the show.
alex jones
We invite communists and globalists on.
They won't come on, but everybody we have on regularly are smart.
But right up there at the top is Robert Barnes, great lawyer.
dan friesen
Barnes, so smart.
Yeah, so commies and globalists have been invited, but the RSVP comes back not attending.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
You know...
dan friesen
I believe that.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I've been saying good work, Barnes, very dismissively, but now that I know Pat has tried stand-up, he might be the dumber lawyer at this point.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's...
That's neck and neck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's tough.
Trying stand-up comedy really lowers your...
dan friesen
You know what's interesting is, I do think that Alex does invite some people on.
I don't know when lately there's been anybody who would be an interesting booking.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But you have the people like David Rothschild or like Weatherman.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The moment you ask me for a pull, it's gone.
I could have pulled it two seconds ago.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Bill.
dan friesen
Bill Ayers.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, so there are those interviews that have happened and like...
Alex comes out looking terrible.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And so, like, yeah, I guess maybe in the past he would have put out more feelers for globalists and commies in his definitions, but they don't go well.
Those interviews are embarrassing.
jordan holmes
No, and you can't do them now, because if somebody comes in and he starts getting religious, boy, it's gonna get bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, imagine if you had David Rothschild on now and Alex was just screaming about the fucking devil.
jordan holmes
The real fucking devil.
I mean, Bill Ayers would be like...
Whoa!
And then just leave.
You're a Satanist!
You're the devil!
I am with God!
I've seen his mind!
unidentified
Oh...
jordan holmes
Oh, click!
dan friesen
Wow.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright, okay.
dan friesen
So, Barnes thinks that the Chauvin trial is a show trial.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
And he has a reason.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's starting to stay there.
alex jones
Why are you saying this is such a fraud, and where do you see it going?
robert barnes
Two parts.
One is that Chauvin had agreed to plead guilty to third-degree murder before the trial.
And so that put him in jail potentially for 20 years.
And it was Bill Barr who blew it up.
And so if they were serious about getting an outcome that could meet the facts, they already had that in the bag and they chose not to.
So this is very much a Soviet-style show trial simply because they refused to do a reasonable plea deal.
And the trial is for public consumption almost entirely.
dan friesen
So Derek Chauvin had offered to plead guilty to third-degree murder, and William Barr did reject that.
But the details of the situation aren't being captured by super lawyer Robert Barnes.
One of the primary issues is that according to an ABC News article, Chauvin, quote, asked to serve his time in a federal prison and wanted assurances that he wouldn't face federal civil rights charges.
Because he was asking for federal guarantees, the deal needed to be approved by the Department of Justice.
But Barr, quote, wanted to allow state prosecutors to make their own decisions about how to proceed.
Seems like that state autonomy thing Alex and his buddies yell about all the time, being put into action.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and also Barr being like, I don't want to touch this!
You guys deal with it!
dan friesen
Also, the fact that Chauvin was willing to plead to third-degree murder is probably not a great sign.
jordan holmes
No!
If you say he's willing to plead to third-degree murder...
Wouldn't you want to then defend the murder charge instead of being like, the whole trial's illegitimate?
dan friesen
Also, the way that he's presenting this, it's like, it's a show trial because they didn't accept what is a reasonable plea.
And that's your determination, Barnes.
You have determined that this is what would be a reasonable plea.
That's not necessarily what the prosecution believes or the state.
jordan holmes
Yeah, justice doesn't exist unless it's equally applied.
So, that's it.
dan friesen
So the real issue, though, is that this trial is just happening because it's a demonstration that the left wants to put on, that they can do whatever they want.
alex jones
So let me ask you this.
We've got a minute to break.
What is the left looking for?
Just rubber stamp what they want?
robert barnes
I think the left wants him hung.
The left wants him legally lynched.
And the left wants to show they can use and weaponize the prosecutorial process to validate and vindicate their media narratives.
To help push a particular politicized agenda.
alex jones
Sure, so anybody they want burned, they can burn.
robert barnes
Exactly.
That's the point.
Y 'all need woke insurance.
We can do it any time we want, any place we want, even to a police officer.
dan friesen
I think that there's other issues.
A guy died.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
dan friesen
I don't think it's anyone, any time.
I think there's specific circumstances that are...
jordan holmes
I would imagine that in this case, committing a murder is probably more important.
For the left?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, look.
jordan holmes
That he committed a murder, not we want to commit a murder.
dan friesen
They can burn anybody they want at any point.
jordan holmes
As long as you murder somebody, we can burn the shit out of you.
Anybody who murders, even cops!
dan friesen
As long as there's a body, they can just jam you up.
jordan holmes
Just lie about how you murdered somebody, you know?
dan friesen
So, you know, we got on the right.
We have a lot of groups, people like the Oath Keepers, people like the Proud Boys, certainly.
jordan holmes
But Brian Stelter is a terrorist.
dan friesen
Definitely.
But you have these groups, and there's been pretty well-documented interaction between them and law enforcement, some overlap even.
But Robert Barnes wants you to know that people like Antifa, they are actually the Nazi brown shirts.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
They want to triangulate BLM and the FBI and use the military on the people.
Don't they get that'll cause an internal civil war guaranteed?
robert barnes
Well, I mean, the real model they're looking at is not so much the communist Soviet model, but is the fascist model of the 1930s.
Sure.
alex jones
They want to know the long knives.
They want to, yeah.
robert barnes
Yep.
You have your paramilitary supporters that are outside of the governmental structure that can do things that you can't do, that you can use as a pretext and a predicate to do what you want to do.
You create false flags events, you stage events, or you exaggerate events.
I mean, the January 6th event is basically being treated like the Reichstag fire.
So it's the same, except there was less violence and less damage.
dan friesen
You know who the only person I've heard call that the Reichstag fire?
Fucking Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you would think.
dan friesen
Alex spent like a week.
Talking about inaccurate information about Hitler's rise to power and the Reichstag fire and how it was the January 6th storming of the Capitol.
They were the same thing.
Now Barnes is trying to say that the left is doing that.
jordan holmes
That's what the left does.
dan friesen
Fucking nonsense.
jordan holmes
That's what we do, Dan.
dan friesen
So stupid.
jordan holmes
That's what the left does.
dan friesen
I have very little patience for this direct pretending that that's not his entire strategy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it is so fucked up that they apply to us.
The characteristics that most define their thought process and then describe that thought process as disgusting.
So it's like, hey, if they did do what we were doing, we would really hate them.
Because it's evil.
What they're doing that sounds like what we're doing and how we think, we'd be pissed.
dan friesen
Totally.
unidentified
If they did, the things that we think.
dan friesen
Now let's interview Stuart Rhodes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's go ahead and get the people who decided to overthrow the Capitol.
dan friesen
So, you know, there have been some unfortunate things that I've seen popping up about the idea of an America First caucus.
Sure.
Certainly there's no historical precedent of this being...
jordan holmes
Just call yourselves the Know Nothing Party and never read history.
Just do it.
Fine.
dan friesen
It's a little much.
jordan holmes
You want a bunch of white men running around rioting and oppressing people.
You're the Know Nothings.
Let's go.
dan friesen
It's a little bit frustrating and scary, and I hope that it fizzles.
jordan holmes
That'd be nice.
dan friesen
But, you know, Alex is on that tip.
He's on the vanguard of America First.
jordan holmes
Sure.
He also knows nothing.
dan friesen
So is Robert Barnes, man.
These are America First kind of guys.
alex jones
That's what caused Russians in the early 60s to defect to us because they saw Khrushchev acting like a maniac.
Our leaders are acting worse than Khrushchev right now.
robert barnes
By far.
By a long mile.
In other words, Putin looks completely reasonable compared to the way Biden is behaving.
Putin's not changing his mind every other day.
alex jones
He's cutting defense budgets.
He's asking for day time.
robert barnes
Oh, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, so they're getting into some pretty serious, like, oh, Putin's the best.
jordan holmes
As Navalny is literally starved to death and his body is falling apart and shutting down in prison, the main political rival of President Putin is being murdered by President Putin as we speak.
dan friesen
To be fair, he's been consistent on that front.
jordan holmes
He's really been consistent!
It's kind of a thing!
dan friesen
Yeah, America first, but also Putin's much better than our leaders.
jordan holmes
Putin's much better than our leaders in America first.
Yeah, America first.
dan friesen
And Alex, I would take this more seriously and actually discuss some of the issues surrounding maybe international relations.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I don't feel like Alex's positions deserve the respect of being taken seriously.
I mean, listen to this nonsense.
alex jones
And by the way, I don't even respect a lot of generals and a lot of top people.
Some I do, but at least they've been like in 20 tours and combat and killed people.
It's all a bunch of weird Harvard women want to have war with Putin because they're going to show a man.
It doesn't even make sense.
It's insane.
It's like putting a woman in the ring with Mike Tyson in 1989.
dan friesen
It's kind of a silly way he's trying to format, formulate this thing, or it's like, ah, yes, these women.
Who have feminism run amok, and that's why they're mad at Putin, because he's too much of a man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's so dumb.
jordan holmes
I despise educated women leading a military.
What I want is bloodthirsty murderers who went over to a different country on a lie and killed people for no reason.
That's who should be running things, Dan!
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
And if Alex is going to insist on disseminating this kind of an idea...
I found myself having a very similar response to a lot of stuff.
And this episode's a little bit shorter because, you know, there's a lot of stuff that I was like, nope.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a big nope.
dan friesen
And that's one of them.
jordan holmes
That's a big nope.
dan friesen
And I was kind of expecting that we were going to get into fucking Cyber Polygon.
jordan holmes
I know, I know.
It was never going to happen.
dan friesen
Yeah, it infuriates me.
jordan holmes
It was never going to happen.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Mal, why am I apologizing to you?
unidentified
That's a good question.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has some more things to say.
Sure.
This is the last clip.
Him and Barnes are having a little discussion about how great...
Russia is.
And Putin.
robert barnes
Deeply nationalistic country.
Deeply proud of their country.
That's who Putin really is.
He's Russia's version of Trump.
That's why the deep state hates him.
And it's just insane.
We should be aligning with Russia on key foreign policy.
alex jones
I agree, and I feel the danger for my family, and it pisses me off, Barnes.
That we're literally having some type of pissing contest with these weird liberals, because Putin's Christian and Russia's Christian now, so they see it like the Midwest, they want to blow it up.
dan friesen
This is all just, like, essentially projecting identity politics onto anybody who has, like, a critique of Putin.
Like, they hate him because he's Christian, or it's just weird women who think he's too much of a man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, yeah, it happens to be all of the identifying identity signifiers that Alex has.
So he feels himself under attack when people criticize Putin.
And again, it's just like a rank level of narcissism.
It's not geopolitical analysis.
It's not meaningful in any way.
It's just he identifies, feels himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't think of any reason why people would be mad at what is functionally the richest man in the world.
dan friesen
Even if you're just Alex and you're like, hey, I don't believe in...
Dynastic rulers.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm into democracy.
jordan holmes
I hate dictators, and I definitely don't want anybody to rule over a country for, let's say, more than two terms.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems like he should have just an elementary problem there, but he doesn't.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
And, you know, I don't know.
I think that if you look at it realistically, I think that what it mostly is, is Alex sees a lot of his identity mirrored in Putin.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of those things that are the surface level, I am a white male Christian.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think that he sees a strong...
That he lacks that as someone to follow.
jordan holmes
Performative masculinity is what he's really stoked about.
dan friesen
That's not to say that he's going to become Putin's number one guy.
jordan holmes
No, I doubt that.
dan friesen
It's just a continuation of these long-standing trends that he's had.
It was pretty overt, though.
The love fest of these America firsters.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's hard to go back and see the vehemence with which he despises Putin and then get to the present day where it's like, Putin's probably the best thing we've got, second, of course, to our God King Trump.
dan friesen
Well, but he's Russia's Trump.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, so I guess he's the God King there, and I wish we had him God King-ing us, America first.
dan friesen
Yep, it feels that way a little bit.
Stupid.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, this episode's a little bit shorter, and I apologize, but, you know, it is what it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
For another episode in the near future.
jordan holmes
That's the plan.
dan friesen
And we'll see where the wind blows us.
We may be back in the past.
jordan holmes
Let's hope for Cyber Polygon.
dan friesen
Fingers crossed.
I've got it open on my screen right here.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say, you've got that locked and loaded, for sure.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight.com.
Go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people still protesting, still fighting.
dan friesen
Sure.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm the juiciest ice cube.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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