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March 17, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#540: March 15-16, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan welcome Alex Jones back from his Floridian grocery store based vacation.  In this installment, Alex lies about some celebrity deaths, decides that Avatar is predictive programming, and ruins Jordan's faith in people named Stew.

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alex jones
17:03
d
dan friesen
59:33
j
jordan holmes
26:10
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mike adams
01:54
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stew peters
02:05
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jon bowne
00:59
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question.
dan friesen
Sure.
What up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is that we're back to Alex Jones.
He came back.
jordan holmes
He came back from the grocery store?
dan friesen
He came back from the grocery store.
jordan holmes
That's a little surprising.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is, and that's why it's a bright spot.
I actually feel like I'm doing the thing that I set out to do instead of looking at Owen Schroyer filling in and saying, where is he?
What is going on?
And his stories of his time away.
Not to be believed.
I'm very excited to...
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
A lot of globalists and a lot of hot tubs.
dan friesen
Maybe the reverse of that.
unidentified
Anti-globalists outside of hot tubs.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's a new genre.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it feels good.
It feels good for Alex to be back in studio and be full of shit, and I enjoy that.
It's a sad bright spot.
jordan holmes
It is.
Part of me hoped that Alex would give up the whole radio thing and just become kind of a troll that lives in the grocery store.
In like the Mexican food section just popping out and being like, are you sure you want this?
dan friesen
Do you want the big enchilada?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Like, okay, alright.
dan friesen
We're gonna get to the big enchilada here in a second after this next break.
jordan holmes
Apparently this grocery store is racist at me.
dan friesen
I feel like Alex would fit in in the deli.
I don't know.
I actually don't even know.
Here's the thing.
Interesting thing about that grocery store is that it's also like a big restaurant.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
So it's like this...
Large market slash...
jordan holmes
It's like a bazaar, if you will.
dan friesen
Alex could clean up, maybe.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I wouldn't hire him.
He seems like a bad employee.
jordan holmes
I do feel like eventually we're going to see a remake of The Wrestler, but it's just Alex.
dan friesen
A lot of that movie will be about insubordination on the part of Alex as an employee.
I don't think he would take direction well.
jordan holmes
It's a pound and a half of meat!
Take it!
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is H. John Benjamin.
dan friesen
He's great.
jordan holmes
I was watching some Bob's Burgers.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
As you do, because it's a fantastic show.
dan friesen
Because you're trying to catch up on the Jay Johnson news.
jordan holmes
Of course.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
I want to see where...
unidentified
See if there's any clues as to whether or not it was him at the Capitol.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I want to see if Jimmy Pesto's okay.
But then I started thinking about it.
I realized...
I have been listening to H. John Benjamin since I was like 10. Yeah, Dr. Katz.
Dr. Katz, yeah.
From the jump, I was watching Dr. Katz as like a little kid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And now I'm a full-grown man and H. John Benjamin is still in my life.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is interesting to think about.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I have gone a year.
dan friesen
Archer?
Other shows?
Yeah, probably not.
jordan holmes
He's even had his own shows on Comedy Central that were incredibly short-lived.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think he's been everywhere for 20 years at least.
And so I wanted to celebrate that I've always enjoyed H. John Benjamin in my life.
I've never had a moment where I was like, ugh, too much.
Now that's an achievement.
dan friesen
Yeah, for sure.
Some of his stand-up stuff was really funny too, like from that Invite Them Up CD.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
That forget-a-buddies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's really funny in a genuine, he's not just a voice either.
No, he's incredible.
dan friesen
One of our generation's great comedic talents.
And so jealous of his career in terms of how famous he is.
Because he could probably go to that grocery store where Alex is at.
jordan holmes
No one has any idea he is.
He's perfect famous.
dan friesen
As long as he does a slightly different voice.
He could slide by without people bothering him, probably.
jordan holmes
It is nice.
And also, it's not like he's...
A guy who got famous for doing so many different voices.
It's his voice.
dan friesen
It's mostly the same voice.
jordan holmes
And a little bit different.
And it's perfect every time.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So, anyway, Jordan, let's get down to business on today's episode.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
Today what we're going to be doing is talking about March 15th and 16th, 2021.
jordan holmes
That's it!
dan friesen
That was a tie, maybe?
jordan holmes
Ooh, that was a tie.
That was pretty close.
dan friesen
That was probably a tie.
jordan holmes
I was looking at your lips, like, waiting for it to begin.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It might have been as close as we've come to...
Hey, dealer got blackjack.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
That's a push.
You still won, though.
dan friesen
Did you get insurance?
jordan holmes
I did not.
Nope.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
All right.
So, it's interesting.
I was thinking about this, and this is kind of an indication of how, like, my brain went into some flights of fancy.
Like, hey, you know, like...
The 14th.
That's Pi Day.
3.14.
Sure.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
15th is the Ides of March.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
16th is 3.16.
Austin 3.16.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
This is a big three stretch.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
stew peters
It's huge.
dan friesen
I don't know if there are, like, obviously there's like Christmas Eve, Christmas Boxing Day kind of thing.
Those are kind of related.
jordan holmes
When's St. Patrick's Day this year?
dan friesen
I think St. Patrick's Day weekend was this last weekend.
jordan holmes
Did we already have it?
dan friesen
I know that they turned the river green.
jordan holmes
Did they?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Pandemic really changes Chicago and St. Patrick's Day.
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't get to see people throwing up on walls.
jordan holmes
It's not terrible.
It's not all bad.
dan friesen
I don't miss when I used to live over by Clark Street, over by Wrigleyville.
That was a menace.
jordan holmes
No.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
A friend talked me into going to that Sluggers.
That bar that has a batting cage on the second floor on St. Patrick's Day weekend?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Just the humanity that you witnessed.
jordan holmes
I'm so proud that you're still here.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was touch and go for a little bit.
But anyway, three stretched days of holidays that aren't really holidays aside.
jordan holmes
Well, for us then.
dan friesen
We're back to Alex Jones, and that's exciting.
So we'll get down to business on that, but before we do, Jordan, let's take a moment to say thank you to some folks.
Who are wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
Here's what we got today.
jordan holmes
What do we got?
dan friesen
We got a couple of wonks.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
A couple of technocrats.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Got some birthdays.
jordan holmes
Anybody get married?
dan friesen
No marriages that I remember.
But then we have to have a symposium about the whole birthday thing.
Okay.
I want to pitch a new plan.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so we'll get to that here in a moment.
First, Eric the HR Jerk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Eric.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, 21 Blackjack.
jordan holmes
All right, well, that's hardly fair.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
The 21?
Blackjack.
There you go.
I'll let you have that.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
And shout-out to a couple of technocrats.
There are hot raptors seeking chocolate in your area.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
unidentified
And Ian K., a.k.a.
dan friesen
Carndog, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare...
Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
There are hot wrappers seeking chocolate in your area and carndog.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, here's the thing.
I'm a little bit sometimes behind on some messages.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
A little bit.
Every now and again, I lose track of some of the inbox.
And so I sometimes don't see some of these birthday shout-outs and I feel bad, as is the case with a couple of these shout-outs today.
These are belated birthday shout-outs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
This is like when your grandma would send a check and it would be like for $5 and it would come three weeks late.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Yeah, this is from March 22nd, 2020.
dan friesen
It's not that far.
So what I want to do, I want to institute a new thing, because this is getting to be too much, and I love making people's birthdays special.
I love being able to do that.
We've got to do this once a month.
We've got to do birthday roundup for the months.
So from now on, by the end of the month, if you want to send me a birthday shout-out that you want us to do for the next month, We'll do it.
I'll probably lose track of some.
I was gonna say, this isn't gonna work.
jordan holmes
This is gonna be such...
I do like any solution that doesn't have anything to do with the problem, which is that we're terrible with correspondence.
dan friesen
You're terrible with correspondence, and I'm only good at keeping certain things in order in my head.
jordan holmes
It's unfortunate that we live in a world where we read every email and respond in our head and then forget to actually do it.
dan friesen
That is a big problem.
And then the second problem that I have is I think I'm just a little bit too old.
If I was born maybe a couple years earlier, I would have...
Really integrated a lot of the technologies in terms of organization and, like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
What is, like, QuickBooks for a to-do list?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it goes a little too far sometimes, you know?
Like, my partner, she'll respond to emails from students at, like, 10 p.m. because it shows up on her phone, you know?
And it's like, well, that's not a good work-life balance.
dan friesen
I think that might be better, though, in terms of, like, keeping things...
jordan holmes
Moving smoothly.
There's that.
dan friesen
But Mitch W., you had a birthday earlier this month.
Happy birthday.
Hope you had a great one.
Also, Adrian, Trey wants to send a little happy birthday message out to you earlier this month.
Sorry we missed it.
Yep.
And Dylan.
What's up, Dylan?
jordan holmes
Hey, Dylan.
dan friesen
Carrie got in touch with us once and wish you a happy birthday.
March babies!
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got it.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we had an interesting episode to go over.
A whole lot of bullshit.
And in lieu of...
An out-of-context drop.
I wanted to do something a little bit special.
And so Mika, or maybe Micah, I'm not entirely sure, M-I-K-A, got in touch and, you know, their partner had, it's the anniversary of working from home.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
And apparently they may have some hydration problems.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So Jason Bowman, go drink some water.
unidentified
The U.N. says you don't need vitamin C, oxygen, or water!
Now, when you fly on an airplane, do not drink the water, no.
alex jones
Is Putin putting sugar water in people?
Absolutely, to end the hysteria.
unidentified
I have water samples still that I have kept for several months in my refrigerator, and it's amazing what happens over the long term.
alex jones
Well, you should shoot a YouTube video of that and show it, but that's really...
Unscientific, and I'm not poo-pooing the fact that you're doing that.
That's a good way to start out observing things, and I appreciate your call.
dan friesen
Go drink some water.
jordan holmes
Go drink some goddamn water.
dan friesen
All right, now down to business.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We'll start here on the 15th, and I would say that Alex, he's been gone for a week, and I was interested to see how he was going to return.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he came in, and the way I would describe him is dramatic and a little low register.
jordan holmes
He comes back from his...
Weird vacations usually.
He's got a day where he's a little bit down.
dan friesen
He's a little sleepy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we could not be doing more important work right now.
I'm very honored to be your host.
Very honored to be here with you on this live March 15th, Monday, global transmission.
The Ides of March.
unidentified
The Ides of March.
alex jones
I am going to...
Air a special report here.
And then when I return, we're going to get into the earth-shaking developments that are unfolding here today.
dan friesen
Weird vibe.
jordan holmes
I'm going to start the show.
dan friesen
And then leave.
jordan holmes
I'm going to play a report.
I'm going to get out of here.
dan friesen
It's a weird vibe, but it's also not that weird from listening to his show a lot.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's fairly, like, de rigueur for Alex, but it's...
It is weird.
It's a strange vibe.
And I was like, there's something going on.
And then I realized what it was later.
Alex reveals.
So the mystery will be solved.
Why is Alex so weird?
jordan holmes
That's good.
dan friesen
But he breaks down some of the big headlines, like Boxing Great, Marvin Hagler.
jordan holmes
Rest in peace.
alex jones
You don't just have marvelous Marvin Hagler dying a day after he took the vaccine.
You don't just have Hank Aaron dying after he got the second vaccine.
You have the media lying and battling to keep that information coming out from the families because they can cover up average people dying.
It's hard to cover up sports icons.
dan friesen
So the idea that boxing great Marvin Hagler died after getting a COVID-19 vaccine didn't come from any solid reporting that Alex is working off of.
He's taking that information from a random Facebook post by another boxer.
Hagler's wife Kay has come out and been clear that this is not the case and that he passed away from natural causes.
I can't determine whether or not Hagler had been vaccinated, and if he had, I have no idea when he would have gotten the vaccine.
My point here is that I really want to demonstrate the flimsy level of information Alex works with.
He has absolutely zero evidence past that Facebook post that Hagler's death is related to a vaccination, and that's sufficient for him to report it definitively.
No one interested in getting the story right could possibly use that as a workflow.
Also, there's been no evidence found that suggests that Hank Aaron's death was related to getting vaccinated two weeks prior.
He was 86 years old, so who knows what the case is there.
jordan holmes
Also, Alex should keep those two names specifically out the fuck of his mouth.
Marvelous Marvin dealt with so much goddamn racism from guys exactly like...
Fucking Alex.
Hank Aaron dealt with so much fucking racism from guys like fucking Alex.
Keep their names out of your mouth.
dan friesen
It'd be nice.
So as we know, Alex was hanging out in a grocery store for a little bit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But early on in the show, he gives us a little bit of an indication of what he might have actually been up to.
He might have been doing something a little bit nefarious.
alex jones
I'm very honored to be back in studio with all of you.
I had an amazingly powerful trip.
In Florida that I'm not at liberty to get into any of on, basically, but I will give you just some of the basics of how exciting things are, the major resistance forming, and also a sense of what this broadcast has done and what this broadcast has been able to do.
dan friesen
I was like, are you trying to imply that you raised an army in Florida?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What are you talking about?
He did some clandestine operations down in Florida.
dan friesen
Sneaky snake business.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are we talking about here?
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure, but he doesn't elaborate more until later, but I was listening to him and I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
unidentified
I talked to Roger Stone for five minutes and he winked at me, so I know that we're going to destroy the government.
dan friesen
Roger and I were smoking cigars and getting wasted.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I went to that weird podcast and drank three quarters of a bottle of Jameson.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it's a good weekend.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So then he goes to a special report, so that's why he doesn't elaborate more.
And, man, this is important stuff, man.
Like, I understand.
Alex has been gone for a week.
He comes in.
He's like, we got these special reports we got to get to.
And I'm like, thank God you did.
Hard-hitting journalism.
jon bowne
It would have been inspiring to witness the real musicians who won plenty of awards perform and speak to the public that supported them.
unidentified
Stay tuned, because when we come back, Lil Baby gives a performance you do not want to miss.
jon bowne
But at this point, that is probably too much to ask the narcissistic hacks who have hijacked the soul of American music.
The real awards show would have gotten massive ratings if Grammy-winning legends Bobby Rush, Toots in the My Towels, John Prine, Chick Corea, and many others had been given a moment to receive their awards, some of them posthumously.
unidentified
Man, John Bowne is mad at the Grammys.
Who could have predicted it?
jordan holmes
I just don't.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is one of the more predictable takes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
InfoWars employee mad at Grammys.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was gonna say, oh my god, oh no, conservative men are unhappy with women and people doing interesting things?
Oh, what a strange existence we lead.
dan friesen
But I was also listening to this, and there was a really, like, there was a part in his report that made me, like, really think, I think he's trolling.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think Jon Bowne's serious.
unidentified
No one cares.
dan friesen
I think he's fucking with people, trying to get a rise out of them, so then he can talk about how everyone's mad at his stupid report.
And here was that point.
jon bowne
All overseen by the self-proclaimed king and queen of Crowley and Magic, Beyonce and Jay-Z.
Why has it come to this, you may ask?
Because the potential of infinite freedom real American music represents must never be allowed out of its box, which is buried beneath the Grammy stage.
Opening that box would spread truth far and wide to a populace that is craving it.
John Bound reporting.
unidentified
InfoWars.
jon bowne
Tomorrow's news.
jordan holmes
Today.
dan friesen
I think he's fucking around.
Like, I don't think he's being serious.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But then, what is being serious?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, how much of it is just...
Goofing off and being a dumbass.
Do you actually think that Beyonce does Crowley and magic?
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Because I know that Alex would probably say that on his show.
jordan holmes
The king and queen of Crowley and magic, Dan.
dan friesen
That's in line with the Infowars editorial position.
They're witches and warlocks.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate...
Here's how much Beyonce is the queen.
Even her enemies have to describe her as a queen in some fashion.
There's no mistaking that she is She's a powerhouse, okay?
So you might as well recontextualize it to her being a powerhouse at magic.
dan friesen
A Crowleyan witch lady.
jordan holmes
They know Crowley didn't actually do magic, right?
dan friesen
I think that he's just, you know, just trying to piss people off.
Or just trying to be a dick about stuff that maybe people will pay attention to.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So then, oh, isn't this fun?
I can give this a...
Clickbait headline.
Maybe we'll get a thousand more views on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's very sad.
jordan holmes
I can't say wet-ass pussy, but I can absolutely say that Beyonce is a master of Crowley and magic.
dan friesen
So we get back to Alex after John Bowne's very dumb report, and he wants to talk more about Hagler.
alex jones
Oh, you're not going to see the big corporate-produced establishment program talking about why are all of these old people and young people and black people and white people and others dying?
From the mRNA vaccines.
Oh no, you're not going to hear about all of these baseball players and famous boxers, heavyweight champion of the world, marvelous Marvin Hagler dying a day after he took the shot.
His family said that's what killed him.
Totally healthy, took it, dead 24 hours later, his liver dissolved.
dan friesen
So Alex is reporting that Hagler's family has said that the death was related to the vaccine, and I would like to officially challenge him to back that claim up.
The only statement I can find from his family is from his wife, who said, quote, For sure wasn't the vaccine that caused his death.
My baby left in peace with his usual smile, and now is not the time to talk nonsense.
Alex needs to back up his claim, or else he needs to retract this slanderous bit of business and apologize to the Hagler family.
Their pain is not a prop for him to use to push anti-vaccination.
No.
jordan holmes
And, you know, he was a fighter.
He took a lot of hits.
And Marvelous Marvin was somewhat known for being willing to take a hit and just keep coming and beat the shit out of you.
dan friesen
He was so good!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I was, like I said, in a strange state where I was like, Alex has got a weird fucking energy at the beginning of this.
What's going on?
He's going immediately to reports after being gone for a week?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, shouldn't he be hungry?
And then I realized what was going on.
alex jones
We're going to go to break.
I'm going to come back with all the news, but I wanted to get to that first.
And this is a live broadcast, quite frankly.
At the start of the show, I was having earpiece problems.
So, we had to air some of those reports.
Those are...
Great reports need air anyways.
Maybe I should just air our reports here.
Maybe I should just hang it up, man.
Hang the hat up for a while.
jordan holmes
Do it.
alex jones
Because I'm not giving it up in the face of all this.
I just realized, though, that if Americans themselves don't stand up and don't say no and don't resist this, we don't have a future.
We don't have any hope.
dan friesen
I should quit because my earpiece is fucking up.
And quite frankly, none of you are fighting hard enough.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
My earpiece doesn't work, so that puts me in a bad mood, so I assume none of you are doing anything right, and it's all your fault.
I would never quit because I'm a whiny baby.
No, it is absolutely because of you people.
dan friesen
I'm a whiny baby who pays John Bound to complain about the Grammys.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
The most relevant thing to music.
unidentified
God damn.
dan friesen
What a dork.
Anyway, Alex gets back to his Florida trip, and here is where I started to get a sense of what might And I went to Florida and met with the who's who's that are there.
alex jones
Basically, the who's who's are there.
They're all there.
And I wouldn't even call most of these secret meetings, but there's no reason to name names and get into all of it.
But it was very, very exciting.
And I was given the same message by everyone that I spoke with that are very, very prominent names in the fight against the New World Order.
I'll just leave it at that.
The top names, period, are all in Florida.
And they just said, Jones, you launched the whole revolution.
We need you.
We are counting on you.
We're counting on your listeners.
And basically that we are the engine that is driving most of the rebellion you see here today.
dan friesen
So Alex has been bestowed the title of the leader of the rebellion.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think he's really heavily trying to imply that he was Trump.
jordan holmes
That he went and talked to Trump.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
But I think we would know.
It would have been reported on.
dan friesen
Not only that, Alex would have shot a video there.
He would be yelling about how I met with Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but even then, even if it was like Trump wanted to, you know, Trump and his team were like, we're not actually going to let you do that.
Because, you know, you know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, they don't even have to say.
They're just, you know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, but even then, it would have been reported like Alex Jones seen walking into Mar-a-Lago.
You know, it would have been.
dan friesen
Or like Stephen Miller spotted at grocery store.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Excess of evil revived at grocery store.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know what to believe about this.
I think that the world is so fucked up that I could believe that maybe he did talk to Trump.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And I could also believe that he wants people to think that, and he just hung out with Roger at a grocery store, and now is pretending that Trump anointed him leader.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I can also believe him telling Roger Stone to tell Trump something is him being like, see, I totally talked to Trump.
dan friesen
We have seen many instances of that over the course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the bigwigs in the anti-globalist fight that Alex is engaged in.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's the leader of.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Top names.
dan friesen
They want to know, like, how do you know what you know, man?
You're so smart.
jordan holmes
Dreams.
alex jones
The most prominent names in the country fighting the globalists all ask me the same question.
How did you know all that?
I said, well, I went off globalist documents, but yeah, there's a lot of documents.
And I said, no, but I know the key groups and their key plan, and I've seen what they've built so far, and I see the predictive programming in the news, so I know what they're going to do.
And they said, well, you certainly do know that.
You know, I met with the former head of two U.S. intelligence agencies.
I'll leave it at that.
I met with a lot of other very prominent people.
And I just, it was a form of satisfaction I'm not experienced.
jordan holmes
It wasn't a triumph.
alex jones
It wasn't a power.
It wasn't good for my ego.
It was like a thousand pound weight was taken off my shoulders.
There's still a lot of weight on my shoulders, but I've had this mission and I've known it was my job for this time.
We're now in to do what we've done.
And I told you that for 20 plus years.
I said, this is all going to come.
It's my mission to get it out up front so that others can then carry the ball.
And I just literally had like a vision.
But it was beyond a vision, not like where I saw a hallucination and an angel appeared or God appeared.
It was more of like a download, like you will do this, this will then happen, this will then unfold, and then this next operation will unfold.
And now I know that I am inspired with my discernment and my own research to know what to look at, to know what to understand, and that my understanding of human nature and how to fight the globalist was dead on, but that was all given to me by God.
The smartest thing Rush Limbaugh said was, Talent on loan from God.
And so I just am very humbled to be here, very humbled, very thankful to be with all of you.
I come in here and research all this information and get very frustrated on air because it's very hard to have time to get to all of it properly.
dan friesen
I want to tell you this.
We are 40 minutes into the show now.
jordan holmes
I kind of thought so.
dan friesen
And Alex hasn't covered anything.
jordan holmes
I have written down, the moment he said we do important work here, I was like, okay, let's just tally up some important work.
dan friesen
Yeah, what do we got?
jordan holmes
We've got Marvelous Marvin and Hank Aaron.
We've got his Mysterious Trip times two.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We've got the Grammys, and we've got My Earpiece Doesn't Work.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Important work.
dan friesen
That's a lot of it.
Yeah, there were two John Bowne special reports, because he needed to fix his earpiece.
That was what was going on.
And then he rambled a bunch about how he was anointed the King of the Patriots when he was hanging out in Florida.
So it's fucking brazen for Alex to complain at this point that he doesn't have time to get to the real meat and cover it properly.
He has all the time in the world.
He just knows full well that if he ever tried to go anywhere deeper than surface level on any of these stories he covers, it would become clear immediately that he has no idea what he's talking about and his arguments make no sense.
And his audience will put up with him just rambling about God giving him a download or whatever about what his career is going to be when everything is a direct contradiction.
It's not like it's not like 20 years ago.
God told him one day you will be a foot soldier in Donald Trump.
unidentified
It's definitely not.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm so disgusted.
dan friesen
Wouldn't God have warned him not to do that because it's embarrassing for that to be on tape?
jordan holmes
God works in mysterious ways and sometimes that includes making you tell everybody that your God King is actually a mobbed up liar.
dan friesen
If Alex had some kind of a download of what he was going to do and some kind of an idea of his future, then he couldn't have possibly known anything past...
Supporting Trump because this whole time has been so a vast departure from...
God didn't tell him that part?
jordan holmes
Sure!
Also, I'm struggling to believe that you want to follow top names in anti-globalism who are willing to take you at face value when they say, how do you know everything you know?
Ah, well, I had a vision 20 years ago.
I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry.
You tell that to them.
You don't tell that to us.
dan friesen
Sorry, buddy.
We're top anti-globalists.
I don't imagine that conversation went anything like that, if it's even a real conversation.
That's the kind of stuff that happens at like...
I don't know.
Aleister Crowley circles.
jordan holmes
I will tell you that the king of Crowley and magic does also get visions.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the place for that conversation.
Not this dumb shit.
Anyway, Alex has, like he said in that last clip, he felt like a big weight was lifted from him.
And that's because he's kind of completed his mission.
alex jones
I don't feel like my mission's over, but I do feel like I've completed what I was sent here to do.
And you've been sent to this planet as well for what you're here doing.
That's why God created you, why God put you in this body, and why you're on this planet right now.
So I've completed the main mission.
And I've got more missions, but God literally had his hand on these people to tell me all the same message.
The same message, take care of yourself, you've done a great job.
You helped launch this whole thing.
jordan holmes
Leave us alone.
alex jones
You're the leader.
jordan holmes
Go away.
alex jones
We apologize.
We didn't think you were right about all this.
You've been dead on about everything else.
Sir, you're making a scene.
dan friesen
Don't threaten to push that lady off the stage.
alex jones
Not that now people are asking me what to do at that level specifically, but...
That I've completed the mission so far now that they've got the template now and don't even need me.
And like the space shuttle going into orbit, the main boosters just fall off.
And imagine being those boosters driving, shaking.
And finally, you see what I'm saying?
It's like now the big heavy payload is going into orbit.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
alex jones
And I'm on the ship.
You're on the ship too, folks.
But we were the boosters, folks.
And as bad as things are, we're now in the main fight.
This was all...
Pre-positioning for what's coming, and God's people versus Satan's people, and this was setting up the chess pieces.
Well, now, ladies and gentlemen, it is game on.
dan friesen
This is very stupid.
Yeah.
I mean, like, honestly, as somebody who listens to a ton of Alex, I mean, like, one of our episodes that people like a lot was the episode, the Drunk Hotel interview.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Patrick Bat-David.
jordan holmes
That's because life...
dan friesen
Life is very fragile, we learned in that interview.
And we also learned that Alex was...
He completed his mission, and he felt really great.
These are just things that are like...
It's a refrain that comes back from time to time whenever Alex feels a certain way.
And I would guess that he talked to somebody, maybe not Trump, but it's somebody who gave him like...
I would almost say...
Maybe it was a financer.
Maybe he got some money.
Maybe he was down in Florida trying to get some money to stay afloat.
jordan holmes
That could be.
dan friesen
And someone agreed to, you know, throw a couple bucks at InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Is Steve Lindell in Florida right now?
dan friesen
Mike Lindell.
jordan holmes
Or whatever.
dan friesen
He might not have any money in a little bit.
jordan holmes
Well, that's why you should give it to InfoWars now.
dan friesen
Could be the guy who runs that fucking grocery store.
I don't know.
It's very weird.
All I hear is whenever Alex talks about this idea that the weight is lifted from him, it's just like someone patted you on the head and you feel really good about it.
I'm glad you had a great trip, but you still, I mean, everything, it still sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and that's why he's down right now, is because he's coming off the high of being like, I'm so great, and now he's in a bad mood, so he's telling you how great he is.
dan friesen
Well, because of the earpiece.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
And that's your fault.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, that's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex finally stops talking about his own dumbass and starts talking about some issues, and he gets into a little bit of stuff about climate change, and I found this Fascinating.
This framing of two different ideas.
Okay.
alex jones
And I'm sure you've all heard me, a regular listener, probably 5,000 times say, when they collapse the third world with the lockdowns and the giant third world masses flood us, they're going to say that that was because of climate change, even though the lockdown's what did it.
Sure as hell, Nancy Pelosi came out and said it.
And I said they're also going to say that...
The new viruses are rising because of climate change, and that's why they're developing, because there's too many people.
So see, they always criticize Pat Robertson when there's a bad hurricane, and this is God judging us.
Well, maybe he's wrong, maybe he's right.
But they're saying, oh, humans are bad.
That's why there's a snowstorm or a dust storm or climate change caused a volcano.
You've heard that.
That's pure bull.
dan friesen
So, a couple of quick clarifications.
Long before COVID was known to anyone, there were many people discussing the dynamic that when climates change, it makes some regions uninhabitable, or at least it can, whether by the risk of rising sea levels, diminishing water supply, or some other variable shifting.
This leads inevitably to some degree of displacement of people, the extent of which is, you know, left to be seen.
Second, when people discuss climate change causing new diseases, they're talking about how changing climate displaces animals as well.
And, as that happens, animals who previously would not have been in contact with humans end up contacting humans, and in those cases, there's a possibility for transmission of novel diseases.
There's also the matter of rising sea temperatures, making water more hospitable for things like flesh-eating bacteria, but all of it is a discussion surrounding cause-and-effect relationships.
Not every new interaction between an animal and a human is going to result in a new disease, but the more that it does happen, the more possibilities there are for new diseases popping up.
This is something that I guess Alex is conflating with Pat Robertson saying that natural disasters are God's punishment for the U.S. accepting LGBTQ folk as humans with rights.
In 2015, Pat Robertson said that a drop in the Dow Jones Industrial Average was God punishing the Obama administration for supporting access to reproductive health care.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, but that one actually was true.
dan friesen
Robertson does this shit all the time.
It's just one of his things.
There's an important difference between these two things that Alex is embarrassingly not understanding, and that is that one is moralistic and the other is descriptive.
The conversation about climate change can be something that you can discuss with moral implications, but it can also be a conversation that you have strictly as a matter of X will cause Y, and it still makes sense.
Robertson's claims are things that only work as a moral argument, a dumb and flimsy one, but they can't possibly be taken seriously in any other context.
There's no way to coherently explain how Planned Parenthood existing causes hurricanes, except if you embrace the worldview that we're living at the whim of a vengeful god who's decided that reproductive health care is immoral and the punishment for immorality is a hurricane.
That's the only way that Robertson's shit even makes sense from a grammar standpoint, but the same is not true for the conversations that people have about the side effects of climate change.
It's really amazing to see this kind of equivalence being made and realize that there's actually, you know, it's probably how Alex's brain works.
These two things probably do feel about the same to him.
He just thinks that Robertson's claims are closer to reality.
jordan holmes
And we've talked about this before, but we exist in multiple different...
Time periods simultaneously.
Like, it's weird to understand the main factors of climate change and how they swirl around in a global sense, which is...
Incredible.
In such a short period of time, too, like relatively speaking, we've gone from believing that witches cause all of our problems to understanding what those problems come from on a scientific and real level.
And at the same time, people still believe that witches cause our problems.
This is an issue.
dan friesen
Crowley and witches.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
Like, what are we doing?
How can you do that?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's interesting to me.
And the sort of hinge point of it is Alex seems to think that the conversations about these potential new diseases that we will come in contact with as animals get displaced, as climates change, is something that is intrinsically about humans being bad.
And that's not at all a meaningful conversation that I've heard anyone having, except Alex.
It's a straw man in order for him to make this somehow an equivalent of Pat Robertson saying gay people cause hurricanes.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Whatever.
It's so dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's real difficult to swing with that bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So this next clip we got is, I think it's a good indication and example of how a lot of the stuff that Alex does is kind of a trap.
alex jones
Oh, by the way, fentanyl, in the last two months, just since Biden got in, the DEA says he's up 360 plus percent.
I think it's 362 percent.
I saw the article this weekend.
360 plus percent.
It's killing hundreds of thousands of people, a lot of them black.
But, oh, you're not going to see the Emmys or the Grammys or any of these shows pushing this.
There it is.
Biden's border advisor admits Trump's policies preventing illegal immigration.
Fentanyl importation in the U.S. explodes.
dan friesen
So Infowars quotes Acting Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Troy Miller as saying the following during a media call on March 10th.
Quote, we're seeing a dramatic increase in fentanyl seizures this fiscal year, more than 360% higher than this time last year.
Now here's a fun game.
And this is why disinformation is almost impossible to get rid of, ever.
Alex can use that to argue that there's so much more fentanyl coming into the country than when Trump was president because Biden has signaled to the cartels that it's open season.
Of course, this doesn't really explain why the police are seizing all of it, but who cares?
Now, imagine that Miller, the acting Customs and Border Protection commissioner, what if he had reported that seizures were way down from last year?
What do you imagine Alex's narrative would be at that point?
jordan holmes
I believe it would be that they are hiding the number of seizures that are occurring.
dan friesen
Or they're just letting it all through.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
You know, the message has gone out.
Just let them on through with the fentanyl.
Yeah.
It's a trap.
It doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
And also, I don't care what...
Anyone from Customs and Border Protection has to say.
stew peters
Fine.
jordan holmes
That's fair?
You can't trust a single word from them.
dan friesen
It's fair.
That's a side issue.
In this case, at least it's somewhat reliant on stats.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So the actual facts or information that come out don't matter in cases like this.
The argument is that Trump's approach to the border was good and Biden's is bad.
So no matter what details get provided, they get filtered through that lens and the predetermined argument is made.
That's all that's going on.
As for Biden's advisor admitting that Trump's policies work, Alex is just reading an Infowars headline that fails to capture the real story.
This was about the Southern Border Coordinator Roberta Jacobson discussing how there may be a relationship between the ending of Trump's inhumane policies and a spike in people heading towards the border.
Quote, there was a hope for a more humane policy after four years of pent-up demand, so I don't know if I would call that a coincidence.
But the idea that a more humane policy would be in place may have driven people to make that decision, but perhaps more importantly, it definitely drove smugglers to express disinformation, spread disinformation, about what was now possible.
This is not what Alex is reporting, because it's just a little bit deeper than the surface appearance level, and he can't really handle that kind of material.
jordan holmes
So, it's entirely possible that people were like, oh, the president doesn't actively want to murder us, so maybe now would be a better time than it was a couple months ago.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, and there are people who are taking advantage of that, perhaps.
Selling people a bill of goods about getting them over the border.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And, you know, the interview that Jacobson did was talking about trying to balance messaging responsibly with policy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's just a little bit more complicated than Alex wants it to be.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
So, Alex is a, you know, he's this guy who's like above the fray.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The left-right paradigm.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound true when you have a god king, but...
alex jones
And as the enemy ups their game, we up our game.
And as long as we don't give up, they're going to run out of time.
They're going to fall apart.
And no matter how much propaganda or election fraud they've got, everybody's going to know you run from Democrats, you run from communists, you run from socialists, you run from leftists, you run from liberals, because they're monsters.
They're part of a criminal syndicate.
And most of the people that serve the left are idiots being used and destroyed themselves.
So that's all coming up.
I mean, look at these headlines.
jordan holmes
He says returning from a grocery store.
alex jones
The Pentagon openly calls for attacks on citizens that criticize the Pentagon.
That's totally illegal.
dan friesen
Man, I could have sworn he was above the left-right divide.
It does sound right.
I thought that was just a way that the man got people to fight with each other.
jordan holmes
It does sound right.
dan friesen
Weird how none of the groups that Alex is talking about you need to run from because their monsters are right-wing at all.
jordan holmes
That is strange.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is really important to understand.
Alex's branding in his earlier career really relied on him pretending to not be extremely right-wing.
He was making arguments that were straight out of the John Birch Society and putting forward ideas that were far to the right of the GOP in the 90s, so in order to mask that and expand his potential audience beyond the weirdo militia people, he had to lie.
The essential lie of his career is that he's above the party system and that he's opposed to Democrats and Republicans equally.
He's not, and he's never been.
He likes extremists and only the Republican sort.
When liberal-leaning people got tricked into thinking that he was just an iconoclast, truth-telling kind of guy, what they were actually being tricked into is supporting his right-wing extremist ideology, though they thought that they were being sold as just an alliance against the man.
This was done because on its face, Alex's shit is weak and dumb, and people would see right through it and reject it if it was delivered in any way other than in a Trojan horse.
As for that thing about the Pentagon at the end there, Alex is just covering something Tucker Carlson is whining about.
On his show last week on Tuesday, Tucker went on a little jag about how the military is too feminine, and considering the needs of soldiers who may not be male is, quote, a mockery of the U.S. military.
jordan holmes
How is that guy still legal?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Right?
Like, that's...
Whatever that guy is, as a society, we should just be like...
Just that guy.
Let's not even worry about free speech implications or anything.
Let's just be like, no those guys.
Whatever that is, if you do exactly that, it's illegal.
dan friesen
Well, it just doesn't seem like a sincere position.
jordan holmes
It's not!
Even a position!
It's a nonsense made of grumpy asshole!
dan friesen
So naturally, a lot of folks in the services were offended by these comments and spoke out about it.
Speaking to reporters, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby expressed revulsion with Tucker's comments, and as reported by CNN, quote, said the military still had a lot of work to do to become more inclusive, more respectful of everyone, especially women.
We pledge to do better and we will.
What we absolutely won't do is take personnel advice from a talk show host or the Chinese military.
Maybe those folks feel like they have something to prove that's on them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Tucker went on his show and whined about how the Pentagon was attacking him, and it's an outrage.
Now Alex is reporting on Tucker's whining.
This is a game for people like Alex and Tucker.
They say something that they know is offensive and demeaning, then people respond that what they said was offensive and demeaning, and then they pretend that they're victims of being oppressed by people expressing that what they said sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, everybody gets a good news cycle out of it, and then we all move on the next day because we're all stupid.
dan friesen
It's outrageously dumb and a waste of everyone's time and energy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And that is the best argument, I think, for making Tucker Carlson not street legal.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
unidentified
I mean, it's like, it's such a waste of resources.
jordan holmes
It shouldn't even be hard.
Like, in a literal sense, it should just be, like, you can, it's against the law to be Tucker Carlson on air.
And if somebody does that, then you just play clips of Tucker Carlson saying that at court, and then you convict them for saying Tucker Carlson shit.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
It's not hard.
dan friesen
So, are you a linguist?
I like to ask random questions sometimes.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Interesting.
I want to know what you think about this.
Alex is a linguist.
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't.
dan friesen
He has the right to make up words.
Sometimes, even when he does, he's not making up a word.
He's an innovator.
alex jones
The crew just found something very, very interesting that I had remembered a few months ago.
And then basically forgotten about.
And so I'm so glad that they didn't let it fall through the cracks and one of the crew members saw this and noticed it themselves.
The pre-programming of wearing masks in Hollywood movies setting the future as a dystopia.
That's why I call them dystopics or dystopians.
And then I saw some talk show host making fun of me a few weeks ago.
I just happened to run into it.
They go, Jones doesn't even know how to say dystopia.
unidentified
No, it's called dystopic.
alex jones
That's another word.
You can create new words or you can put different ends on them.
Dystopic is a word I came up with.
People that want to create a dystopia as a form of governance on purpose, like fascist or communist.
unidentified
I call them dystopics.
alex jones
And just since I started using the term dystopic, it's been picked up.
dan friesen
Okay, that's fine.
That's not a word that Alex invented.
jordan holmes
No, I was gonna say, that's an adjective.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a clunkier version of the exact same word as dystopian, since both are adjectives that connote something being similar to a dystopia.
You can find some really interesting debate among amateur linguists on message boards about whether or not you should ever use dystopic instead of dystopian, and the general consensus is that there's no real good reason to.
But also, who cares?
Alex did not come up with this word.
The earliest appearance of the word in Google's archive of printed works appears to be in 1903.
But interestingly, the frequency of its use jumps after the 1960s.
I found an interesting article on the website Daily Writing Tips that offers a potential theory for why Alex has this as his preferred word or a word that's in his head.
The author of this site was discussing how they use the word dystopic and then wondered if it was actually a word.
Quote, I think my use of it in an article may stem from frequent reading of film criticism.
They then go on to give some examples of instances where the word is used generally in the discussion of pop culture science fiction.
jordan holmes
Well, there is that.
dan friesen
I suspect Alex is so entrenched in and so influenced by pop culture science fiction and thinking that it's real that he's probably encountered the word dystopic in that context quite a bit and now I guess he just thinks he coined the term.
Whether my theory is right or not, this is just some embarrassing time wasting that Alex is engaging in here.
jordan holmes
You know, I actually did invent a word, Dan.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yes.
Have you ever heard the word exsanguinate?
dan friesen
That's a real word, isn't it?
jordan holmes
It is a real word, to remove blood from somebody, right?
So I created the word...
dan friesen
Ressanguinate?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Explaterate.
dan friesen
That's peeing?
jordan holmes
Which is when you're watching a samurai movie, they get exsanguinated, but it goes all over the place.
dan friesen
Oh, it's a splatterate version.
jordan holmes
It's a splatterate.
Yeah, see?
dan friesen
That's a good word!
jordan holmes
I think it's going to take the world by storm among people who watch a lot of samurai movies.
dan friesen
Yeah, it could.
I was really thinking, did we make fun of Alex for saying that?
I was trying to think, who cares?
jordan holmes
I don't think so.
dan friesen
Who else other than us would be paying attention?
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I've used dystopic on this show!
dan friesen
Yeah, I would imagine it's come out of our mouths.
jordan holmes
I like it.
I prefer it to dystopian.
dan friesen
Dystopian is the proper, more accepted version, but it's not that dystopic isn't a word that you can use.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, no.
Dystopian's very elitist.
That Ian, uh-uh, I don't like it.
Ick?
That's the way I roll, buddy.
dan friesen
All right, you and Alex can hang out in a hot tub and talk about it.
jordan holmes
Sounds good.
dan friesen
So, Fauci, Anthony Fauci.
jordan holmes
What is he up to now?
dan friesen
He's disturbed.
That Trump voters don't want the vaccine.
jordan holmes
Yes, we all are.
alex jones
Fauci says it's so disturbing that Trump voters are skeptical of experimental mRNA vaccines.
Why would you be skeptical?
Let me just read you some of these headlines again.
Marvelous Marvin Hagler dead one day after taking it.
jordan holmes
Let me just read you some of the things I lie about.
alex jones
A couple days after he took it.
No big deal.
Germany suspends AstraZeneca mRNA vaccine amid clotting concerns and links to deaths and people being paralyzed and having strokes.
But that's no big deal.
dan friesen
I think it's okay to be skeptical about a vaccine that was developed as quickly as these ones were.
That's fine.
When you find yourself feeling skeptical, the appropriate thing to do is to look into the source of your skepticism and see if you can resolve that skepticism.
Chronic skepticism isn't really healthy, and whenever possible, you should transfer your skepticism in the direction of finding a concrete position if you can.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's why they killed Socrates.
They were just sick of that guy being an asshole.
dan friesen
This is the kind of sleight of hand that Alex likes to use a lot.
When he's actually advancing a pointlessly and aggressively anti-vax position, he hides behind the illusion that he's just being skeptical.
Is it so bad to be skeptical?
When he's pushing narratives to his audience about how various victims of gun violence are actors and the whole events were staged as an excuse to take his guns, he's actually telling his audience that.
But when he gets called on it, he hides behind the illusion that he's just asking questions and examining things from all sides.
What's so wrong with asking questions?
Alex does this because on some level, he knows that his bullshit doesn't stand up to adult scrutiny, so the only way for it to fly at all is for him to preemptively give up on his own narratives as opposed to be forced to defend them.
It's easy to criticize him, but it's very hard to criticize being skeptical or asking questions about interesting topics, and that's why he plays the game that he does.
Alex is lying about Marvin Hagler, and he doesn't even have the conspiracy timeline of Hank Aaron's death right.
Now, as for that other issue in Germany, they are just temporarily halting the rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine, quote, over a small number of blood clot concerns.
There weren't people in Germany who ended up with blood clots, but there were a couple cases reported in Denmark and Norway, so Germany decided to halt things as a precaution.
There have been 37 reported cases of blood clots in the population of over 17 million people in the world who have received the AstraZeneca vaccine, and according to the company, quote, there is no evidence the vaccine carries an increased risk of clots.
It's entirely possible that that number of people out of 17 million would have gotten them anyway.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Italy halted the use of the vaccine as well, quote, as a precaution and temporarily after there was concerns that one man in the country died after getting the shot.
But it's not clear that the death is related to the vaccine.
This is all just countries being hypercautious about the vaccine rollout, and it isn't any evidence that it's killing anyone or everyone or the vaccine's dangerous.
When I brought up Alex's fake and false skepticism, it's important to realize that these are the first three stories that he comes up with to justify that skepticism about the vaccine.
This is bad work, and it's the level of shit that he's bringing to the table.
It would be wise for everyone to recognize that Alex has not succeeded in justifying his skeptical position here.
His opposition to the vaccine doesn't rest on facts and reality.
It exists in spite of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was thinking about why it is, you know, like, this vaccine was developed so fast, and I think part of the reason that we are skeptical about it is because it's almost utopic.
You know, it's almost like...
How?
dan friesen
It's remarkable.
jordan holmes
How have we advanced that far?
And how quickly we did it suggests, like, how quickly can we do it?
Is there a situation...
dan friesen
It implies a lot of potential.
jordan holmes
Yeah, is there a situation in a few years where we can manufacture vaccines almost instantly?
You know, like, that's the type of shit that is almost too good to be true.
And so the skepticism there comes from a place of awe and wonder.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't think that being taken aback by the circumstances of the world, particularly the last year has been so insane and adjustments are so complicated and difficult that people have had to make, that I think that you can have a reaction that is in some way skeptical, whether it's worry, anxiety-based, awe-based, whatever it is.
But you do have resources that you can go to explore that skepticism and resolve it.
And if you behave like that.
like Alex does and throw out stupid headlines that mean nothing and don't take into context the actual circumstances, then what you're going to do is you're going to end up staying in that skeptical place or retreating into a dumb position that was where Alex wanted It's not healthy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's also a little hard to believe that we can manufacture a vaccine so quickly at the same time as half of Republican men believe in witches causing our problems.
So that's a little bit weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's hard to believe, but that's because we have human brains.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
And we can believe it also because we have human brains.
dan friesen
So Alex referenced earlier that there was a movie that was predictive programming.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Are we going to talk about Oblivion again?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Are we going to talk about that one where Will Smith fights orcs or something?
dan friesen
The one where he's the last guy on Earth?
jordan holmes
Yeah, something like that.
dan friesen
I Am Legend?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
He fights orcs in a different one.
That's technically vampires.
dan friesen
Is it?
Are they actually?
jordan holmes
I mean, from the original, I suppose.
dan friesen
Isn't he the bad guy?
jordan holmes
Yes, he is.
That's the reveal, Dan.
I am the evil.
dan friesen
What about...
After Earth?
Was that the one reason space?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think I'm only going to watch movies that either Vincent Price was in or a remix of movies.
dan friesen
Wild Wild West.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Trying to think of more Will Smith movies.
Men in Black 2. That's true.
jordan holmes
Here come the Men in Black.
dan friesen
Galaxy Defenders.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So, no, it's none of those.
It's Avatar.
unidentified
Avatar.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
We're on your phone calls here in just a moment, but I first wanted to play a clip that is a great example of predictive Programming.
jordan holmes
Is it from Pocahontas?
alex jones
And that is the 2009 James Cameron film, Avatar.
jordan holmes
Oh, so it is.
alex jones
That shows the planet Earth in 100 years or so.
And where the atmosphere is so toxic, we've all got to wear these face masks.
Now, if you go back and you see the film Blade Runner that came out in the early 1980s, same motif.
Dark skies, always raining.
Flooded cities.
dan friesen
Dystopic.
alex jones
By the year 2017.
And, of course, it didn't happen.
But that was what Al Gore said was going to happen while he bought oceanfront property 20 years ago and while Bill Clinton bought oceanfront property 30 years ago and while Obama bought oceanfront property 10 years ago.
And, of course, the seas aren't going up.
It's all lies.
They show you a polar bear with its cub on an ice floe and go, look, they're dying.
They can't swim.
They can swim 300 miles.
They hunt.
dan friesen
Wow, it is pathetic and on brand that Alex would point to a Wikipedia page on polar bears to prove some kind of dumb point about climate change.
jordan holmes
That's all you need to know.
dan friesen
The illustration that that classic picture of a polar bear and cub on an ice flow is not so much that they can't swim.
It's that when the ice recedes, the polar bear loses its ability to hunt.
Polar bears don't just hunt swimming around in the water.
They hunt from the edge of ice protruding into water where they can catch fish.
As ice disappears or becomes less stable, they have to cross longer distances or be left to try and fish on the shore, which is a less fish-plentiful area.
The result of this is that we're likely to see collapsing polar bear populations in the not too distant future if ice continues to disappear.
Alex has one image that he thinks he can mock that's a counterpoint to all climate change arguments, but in reality it's a straw man he's built so he can win a fake argument.
As for people buying oceanfront property, I don't know if they did or did not do that, but if they did, who cares?
Not all property near the ocean is intrinsically at high risk due to rising sea levels.
None of this means anything.
It's nonsense.
Also, one big problem with Alex's idea about Avatar being pre-programming to wear masks.
Humans don't have to wear masks on Earth in that movie.
They wear masks on Pandora because they can't breathe the air on that planet.
jordan holmes
I thought that's what happened.
I don't remember Earth being very important in that movie.
dan friesen
There is at the beginning a little bit on Earth.
Some people do wear masks, and it appears to be because of pollution.
But not everybody is wearing masks.
Only some people.
And in the scenes where they're inside a place, everyone doesn't have masks on.
So it has nothing to do, really.
Loppy-ass work.
jordan holmes
But also, that's just, like, Asian cultures have had a mask-wearing as more acceptable, or not more acceptable, as a totally normal thing.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And for a long time.
Mm-hmm.
What is it?
Probably, no, before Avatar.
So, fuck off.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
I don't need this shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think it's a little silly, but the image that you remember of people wearing masks in Avatar is on Pandora.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because they can't breathe on Pandora.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Also, are we going to like...
Remote into genetically modified and created monsters.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the other question.
What is not predictive programming about that movie and what is?
jordan holmes
Do you just get to pick and choose?
Yeah, how does that work?
How does that work?
dan friesen
Do we get to join the noble Navi?
jordan holmes
I think that movie has an uplifting message of abandoning human life entirely.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think...
I think this might be convenience for Alex that he found a scene in a movie where some people had face masks on, and he just decided this is predictive programming and decided to ignore the rest of it.
jordan holmes
And it's always fun to talk about Blade Runner.
dan friesen
Sure.
So Alex gets to taking some calls here at the end of this episode here on the 15th, and this one caller that he takes, he talks to him for a very long time, and there's some very serious problems with what he's bringing to the table.
alex jones
Patriot doctor in Missouri, works at nursing home, Wants to comment on COVID vaccines.
Thanks for calling.
Thanks for holding.
Patriot doctor from Missouri.
unidentified
Yeah, hi, Alex.
So, I'm a family medicine trained.
I'm a geriatrician.
I work in nursing homes.
I have had 21 patients that I've identified that have died within 48 hours of getting either the first or second vaccine from AstraZeneca.
jordan holmes
I'm a geriatrician.
unidentified
Now, of course, they are not calling it a vaccine-related incident because CVS is the ones that are administering the vaccine.
CVS has the contract.
dan friesen
There's one giant hole in this guy's story.
jordan holmes
Where's that?
dan friesen
There's no way that his patients could be dying after getting the AstraZeneca vaccine because that vaccine is not approved for use in the United States.
It's still in phase three clinical trials, and though the U.S. has purchased a lot of doses of the vaccine, it's not looking like they're going to be able to get approval to begin using them until spring.
It's pretty embarrassing for Alex to not even know what vaccines are approved for use in the United States, but for this alleged doctor to get that very critical detail wrong, that's fucking disqualifying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, this guy, I don't even think.
Yeah.
like Infowars talking points about the dangers of vaccines.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's like, I'm not going to take you seriously.
I mean, I don't know.
I guess I'll take you as seriously as you're taking claims that your patients are on the AstraZeneca vaccine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Which is not seriously at all.
You go fuck yourself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, sometimes, you know, No, totally.
Yeah.
But it's the radio on Infowars, so fuck it.
I'll just say that I'm way in on medicine.
dan friesen
Yeah, and 48 of my patients have died from taking a vaccine that you can't take in the United States.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Go fuck yourself, man.
stew peters
Patriot doctor.
dan friesen
Fuck off.
jordan holmes
Patriot.
dan friesen
Anyway, so we get to the 16th now, and Alex...
Interestingly, he doesn't talk anymore about how he's now the leader, the anointed leader of the Patriots.
jordan holmes
You don't need to worry about that too much.
dan friesen
That storyline drops off.
jordan holmes
You know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But look, man, globalists are going to kill everyone.
alex jones
They want to kill everybody.
But they want to kill you in a year, six years, ten years.
Every person's different.
And then they'll just claim it's something else causing it.
It's called a soft kill weapon.
Silent weapons for quiet wars.
There's Pentagon Papers on that if you'd like to go look that up.
But here's the Wall Street Journal.
Last year, looking forward to the end of humanity, saying humanity will be exterminated.
It is a wonderful, good, loving thing.
dan friesen
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars is a completely fraudulent document that was pushed by Bill Cooper in his book Behold a Pale Horse.
We covered it in great detail on episode 381 of our show, so if you'd like to hear more about why that's bullshit and why it's embarrassing for Alex to be referencing it as a real Pentagon document, then go ahead, give that episode a spin.
The article that Alex is referring to, looking forward to the end of humanity, that doesn't discuss how great it'll be when humanity isn't around.
It's an easy misrepresentation to make of the headline, but the text of the editorial article doesn't say what Alex is telling his audience it does.
The essential game that Alex plays is to make really scary claims that attempt to defend them by pointing to evidence that might appear to support the argument, but is actually misrepresented or a completely fake thing.
You could sum up most of his career just with that one sentence.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, is it possible for things to be great after the only people to invent the word great are gone?
dan friesen
I'm not sure I'm following you, but you're still doing hand gestures.
jordan holmes
If humanity has gone extinct, there's no consciousness.
To reflect upon the quality of things.
dan friesen
What about that?
jordan holmes
The concept of great would be gone.
dan friesen
Counterpoint.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
What about that octopus who predicts soccer games?
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah, but I bet the octopus feels in a different, you know, it's not great.
The octopus is just like, it's really octopussy right now.
dan friesen
He likes Bond movies.
jordan holmes
I'm getting a real good vibe out of it right now.
dan friesen
Alright, fine.
I don't know what that octopus would think about this, but I do think that Alex might be trying to launch a chain email.
I got really confused listening to this clip.
Legitimately, I was sitting in my chair like, what are you talking about?
jordan holmes
What is this?
alex jones
Let me read you this first.
I meant to cover this yesterday.
And since I didn't cover it, I said, well, let me just send it to a bunch of national talk show hosts I like.
And I sent it off to some folks, and I got some good responses back.
And they said, yeah, we're going to definitely look into this and use this.
And so one great talk show host said, I'm going to steal this from you.
And I said, you can't steal it from me because it's the truth.
And I didn't write it.
Irishman1776 did in the video I did Sunday about...
dan friesen
Okay, I gotta stop right there, just because, like, I'm listening to this, and I'm like, Irishman1776 wrote this, and you're sending it to, like, your contacts in the media?
Some commenter on your website wrote something?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Okay, that's the state of play we're at.
alex jones
About marvelous Marvin Hagler dying, his organs liquefying, sadly, one day after he took the mRNA vaccine.
Similar to what happened to Hank Aaron.
So if we can put up the live show feed name of the broadcast today.
Well, we'll go to that in a moment.
It's on Infowars.com, the live show feed.
There it is.
Politico celebrates end of humanity, total sterilization by 2045.
Wow, that's quite a headline.
Top scientists directly link mRNA vaccines to infertility in women.
Of course, we should add cancer.
Also, top vaccine scientist warns world to hold all COVID vaccines immediately or uncontrollable monster, quote, will be unleashed.
Now, let's go ahead and read what Irishman1776 said.
And the reason I put the headline of the show up is we're going to add what the Irishman1776 said.
And you can read this.
It's all true.
This is all public information.
It's prima facie on its face.
And we're going to post what he said in the live show feed of the broadcast today where Politico is celebrating the end of humanity.
So you can share this.
Because a lot of the crew saw this this morning and said, you know, I'm going to give this to my family.
What would happen if you went to Infowars.com and copied it, put it in email, and told other people to share it, and pay it forward?
We might actually turn around this globalist extermination operation.
dan friesen
We could win if you just take what the Irishman wrote.
jordan holmes
I refuse.
Refuse!
So listen to first-hand information from Irishman1776.
dan friesen
You're not.
And we'll get to that.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
But first, just long and short of this, Politico isn't celebrating infertility in the end of people being able to reproduce.
They had an interview with a doctor who is theorizing that we are running into fertility problems in the next couple decades because of some chemicals.
And the answer to that, I guess, would probably be regulation of business or industry byproducts.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
You don't regulate.
unidentified
Murder.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, the problem with assigning these kinds of things like Alex is doing to anonymous screen names is, I have no idea who Irishman1776 is, and I don't know if he's the same person who uses that screen name on Reddit.
If he is, then he posted this message two years ago in an Oklahoma-based Reddit board.
Quote, I'm 22 and I'm trying to lose my virginity.
Ladies, hit me up.
Obviously, you need to be 18 or older.
Aside from that, I don't care about age.
I don't care about race or looks.
I don't care about your marital status.
No idea if that's the same guy or if he ended up losing that virginity, but you can see the problem here.
It's kind of silly to base your reporting on anonymous internet comments.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
Also, this is really funny to see Alex trying to get this comment on his website sent out to people like Tucker Carlson and make it into a chain email that your grandparents could send to you.
Because the user, the 1776 Irishman, didn't write it.
If you Google the text of this post, you will find that Irishman1776 is just reposting a meme that I can find being posted on Facebook as early as at least January 31st.
I looked around a little more and I found the exact text of the Irishman's comment being tweeted out by an Indian actress named Pooja Bedi on January 15th.
There's a number of responses to her tweet indicating that this was a message that had been circulating previously on WhatsApp and Puja had just copied and pasted it from there.
This is an old anti-vax meme that Alex didn't bother to look into and is pretending is the work of some sagely analysis that one of his anonymous viewers conducted.
This is outrageously sad, whether or not this is the same guy trying to get laid on Reddit.
Oh, also the claims in the meme aren't real.
unidentified
They aren't true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, that doesn't surprise me.
It better not be David O'Doherty.
If it's him, I'm disappointed.
That's Mr. Show showing up at the Capitol, David.
So if you're listening here...
unidentified
It might be Patrick McMahon.
dan friesen
So, Alex reads the meme, and it's basically just like, if I get vaccinated, can I go in public?
The government says no.
It's all this nonsense.
Sure.
Anyway, Alex is like, yeah, you gotta fucking get this out there, because we're gonna win.
alex jones
And there it is.
We'll take this live segment later and add it to the page.
at band.video and the live show feed so you can share this video of the breakdown.
But I suggest you just share the text of it now at infowars.com and newswars.com in the live show feed with everyone you know and this live link.
Or roll over and die.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Separately.
We only have two days left.
It will end on Thursday morning.
jordan holmes
Separately?
alex jones
Free shipping store-wide will end.
jordan holmes
Or perhaps synergistically.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
Separately.
dan friesen
The Irishman1776 posted a dumb meme in my comment section, and we're going to start a chain email about it.
Send it along or die, which is actually something I remember seeing in dumb chain emails.
jordan holmes
I do seem to recall if I don't send this to ten people, I will die.
dan friesen
You just sleep.
Alex is a chain email now.
jordan holmes
Yes, it has become a chain email.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's reached his final Pokemon evolution.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think I want to reach back to something he said on the previous episode, which is that many people on the left are just useful idiots who are destroying their lives.
And I feel like I'm more looking to apply that...
To Alex himself.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think about something he said on the previous episode, and that is that all the bigwigs and the higher-ups and the anti-globalist world are like, Alex, you're such a genius.
I can't believe that you're in communication with Irishman1776.
jordan holmes
Where?
How do you know so much?
dan friesen
Can you imagine?
jordan holmes
How are you right about everything?
unidentified
Well, I read about Irishman1776.
dan friesen
World leaders listen to Alex's show and hear him talk about dumb bullshit people post.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's because, what, Putin doesn't have the time to go through Infowars comments?
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
jordan holmes
No, so he's got to let Alex filter that shit for him.
dan friesen
And to be honest, I know that a lot of people, you know, they say that it's tough to listen to Infowars without our filter.
Sure.
And I totally understand that.
I get it.
And I think Alex could actually be a filter for his own comments.
Because even I, I don't think I could handle his comments section.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
I think even that would be too toxic.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
Alex would do a show where he takes all the Nazi comments out.
unidentified
Yee.
dan friesen
There wouldn't be much left.
jordan holmes
There would be one comment from Irishman1776.
dan friesen
There'd be a bunch of people that would just be like reposting of memes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has found a new operation that proves something.
alex jones
You think Joe Biden's even in on this?
unidentified
No.
alex jones
Joe Biden does what he's told.
It's the Rockefellers, it's the Rothschilds, it's the globalists.
And Bill Gates works directly under the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation.
jordan holmes
I thought he was on the council now.
alex jones
Operation Lockstep, was Event 201, was Operation Crimson Contagion, which I will cover tomorrow.
It's just so complex and so important.
I've procrastinated on it because I wanted to read hundreds of pages of stuff on it, and I've gone over it.
But guys...
Give me the folder on Crimson Contagion.
I want to make sure that we hit that tomorrow because that's so critical.
dan friesen
One of my favorite things in the world is things that are so important that Alex will reference them but have to resist getting into them until tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Seems like you should really take this seriously.
jordan holmes
You might.
dan friesen
So, in fairness, Crimson Contagion was a real thing.
It was a series of exercises undertaken by the Trump Department of Health and Human Services which took place between January and August 2019.
The New York Times reported on the exercises last March in a conversation about how dreadfully Trump and his administration dropped the ball in terms of dealing with the novel coronavirus.
There was a report that was completed This report, based on an exercise testing response to a novel influenza outbreak, is full of lessons we learned after the coronavirus outbreak.
Things like, quote, The current medical countermeasure supply chain and production capacity cannot meet the demands imposed by nations during global influenza pandemic.
Yeah, they knew all that stuff before.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is the result of living in both a we-can-develop-a-vaccine-in-six-months and a we-believe-witches-are-causing-our-problem circumstance.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, all of our scientists and professional people were like, here are the problems we'll face in a pandemic.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And they were like, what if instead- We do nothing.
What if we get rid of all the witches?
dan friesen
Yeah, what if you take zinc?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this report also highlighted that exercise participants were confused about which organizations, Oh, boy.
sure fucking was everybody whenever the federal government decided to kill us all this document is a really huge problem for someone like alex because it basically demonstrates that the trump health and human services department was asleep at the wheel when it came to implementing the changes recommended by this exercise they did this study that revealed things that were clearly a problem then trump did nothing and the public paid for it yep That's basically it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This exercise is a strong indicator that had Trump run an efficient, effective, and competent government, we could have avoided so much of the pain and misery that's come from COVID-19.
This is something that was reported on over a year ago in the mainstream media, but I guess Alex just heard about it, so he's got to come out and do some spin.
Because it so clearly shows that Trump's government had every reason to be aware of where some of the difficulties would be in the case of a pandemic, Alex has to make this exercise itself part of the globalist conspiracy and the plot.
Alex claims to be tomorrow's news today, but in reality, his last year's spin being half-assed tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was really proud of that line.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
You delivered it with aplomb, Dan.
dan friesen
I could have hit it a little bit harder.
jordan holmes
You know, we can do two takes.
dan friesen
No, we can't.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just a bummer.
I mean, I remember when that report was first out last year, and I remember reading about it.
I didn't remember that name, although quite catchy.
And I'm sure we'll be hearing Crimson Contagion quite a bit from Alex.
But yeah, I'd kind of forgotten about some of the findings of it and how...
A year ago, I think a lot of it would have felt different than it does now.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Because I don't think that we would have realized how we relearned all those things back in March 2020.
jordan holmes
One thing that is a little bit fucking me up about how we deal with this is we do talk a lot about, rightfully, all of the people that the Trump administration has sentenced to death.
All of the people that have been crippled by the response.
And at the same time, we don't talk about...
It's also their fault that we were trapped inside for a fucking year.
A year of everyone's life was taken.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
Around the fucking world.
Because nobody could fucking respond to this like a goddamn adult.
And it's very frustrating.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's very frustrating.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm with you.
Anyway, because it's such a damning piece of evidence against the effectiveness and the proper response by his god-king, it's part of the conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it has to be.
It's them revealing their plans.
dan friesen
Right.
So Alex gets to talking about Zbigniew Brzezinski a little bit.
jordan holmes
Sure, now is a good time.
dan friesen
I didn't know this, but...
Apparently, Zbigniew Brzezinski gave his speech one time, and he was like, kill everyone.
jordan holmes
That would be an interesting thing for Brzezinski to do.
dan friesen
I was surprised.
jordan holmes
That's a new one.
dan friesen
I was surprised to hear this.
jordan holmes
That was a new one.
alex jones
And so there's the Rockefellers in the 60s going, we need to sterilize people.
dan friesen
That's actually just talking about, like, birth control.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
Well, now they've learned fertility is so strong, unless you remove the sexual organs, it's best just to kill people.
That's why Brazil, before he died, gave that speech to CFR in Canada, their CFR, and said...
jordan holmes
Their CFR?
alex jones
It is now much easier, instead of propagandizing a million people, to kill a million people.
We have passed the point of being able to convince them.
unidentified
Now it is time to kill them.
jordan holmes
Great voice work.
alex jones
His daughter is married to Psycho Joe.
When he's not being found with dead interns with their brains bashed out, he's up there calling for forced inoculations.
Know your enemy.
You know, I just quoted Zbigniew Brzezinski.
Go look it up.
It is time to move forward against them.
There is no convincing them now.
It is easier to kill them.
jordan holmes
Odd choice.
alex jones
And he goes on.
It would be good to convince them you will not win this fight.
Only killing them will work now.
And we're just supposed to go, oh, okay.
dan friesen
We're supposed to go, oh, okay.
jordan holmes
So, if I'm to understand...
A man famous for really good writing, speaking, and diplomatic language just went to Canada one time and was like, look, we gotta kill everybody.
dan friesen
First of all, it wasn't in Canada.
Second, yeah, this is silly.
Although it is fun.
And one of the things I think is most revealing about a clip like that is like, know your enemy.
Like, no, know your fake enemy.
Who's the fake enemy?
jordan holmes
This is not real.
dan friesen
I'm not here to go to bed for Zbigniew Brzezinski or any of, like, I'm not defending any specifics about his foreign policy, but I'm looking at this claim that Alex is making.
And the quote is real.
I mean, part of the quote is real.
There's a short clip of him that gets passed around a lot where he says, quote, In earlier times, it was easier to control a million people.
Literally, it was easier to control a million people than physically to kill a million people.
Today, it's infinitely easier to kill a million people than to control a million people.
jordan holmes
Oh, so you mean he's describing perhaps humanity's ability to drop a giant bomb on one another.
dan friesen
It was hard to find a full transcript of the speech or any concrete citations of what else was said, and I'm certain from the jump that Alex is making all this shit up.
What Brzezinski is saying here is kind of just true.
Like, weapons development have been such over the past hundred years that it's technically easier to kill a million people than it is to control them.
That's descriptively accurate.
I can see no indication from that clip that gets passed around that he's saying that it's good to control or kill people.
It's where the disagreement with Alex comes in.
It doesn't seem like this has any moral indications.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So this quote comes from a November 17, 2008 speech at the Chatham House.
The rest of the clip that goes around that you can find has to do with the fact that there was a political awakening happening around the world.
So I found it interesting that when I was looking around, the next thing I found was a December 16, 2008 op-ed that Brzezinski had published in the New York Times titled, quote, The Global Political Awakening.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The article is basically making the argument that the U.S.'s leadership role in the world was severely tarnished by things like the Iraq War, and Obama was coming into office with a very serious need to recover international legitimacy.
The issue that compounded things was that countries like China, Japan, and India were taking a more prominent role in the global stage.
Brzezinski had this to say.
Quote, The only alternative to a constructive American role is global chaos.
The New York Times op-ed was an incomplete text of the speech, but the full version was published in the January 2009 edition of the journal International Affairs.
If you read the In its full context, in the actual article, what Brzezinski is talking about is the ending of American colonialism, the need for which is demonstrated by the Iraq War.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Again, another one of those lessons that we knew before we did the thing.
dan friesen
Quote.
These major world powers, new and old, also face a novel reality.
While the lethality of their military might is greater than ever, their capacity to impose control over the politically awakened masses of the world is at a historic low.
To put it bluntly, in earlier times it was easier to control one million people than to physically kill one million people.
Today, it's infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people.
That insight bears directly on the use of force, particularly by societies that are culturally alien, even if technologically superior.
As a result, in the current post-colonial era, it is too costly to undertake colonial wars.
That is a reality some recent American policymakers failed to assimilate to America's detriment.
It's very clear that the context of what he's saying has to do with the gaffes.
Let's say, of Bush war policy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And...
jordan holmes
The genocidal tendencies of the far right in all countries.
dan friesen
To pretend that Zbigniew Brzezinski, in that article, or in that speech, which is just a transcript of the article, I'm sorry, a transcript of the speech, to pretend that what he's saying is, it used to be easier to control a million people than it was to kill them.
Now it's easier to kill them, so we should just kill them.
jordan holmes
So we should just kill them.
dan friesen
That's fucking bullshit.
jordan holmes
That's insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's outrageous.
I mean, Alex is just making shit up.
And know your enemy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The fake one that I'm going to tell you.
jordan holmes
The fake one that I have to tell you.
dan friesen
Because I want to scare you.
jordan holmes
Because if you knew the real one, you would be like, oh, no, I think Alex might be my enemy.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex is your enemy.
And also, Zbigniew Brzezinski had some ideas that you should take issue with.
But it's going to be difficult for you to wrestle with some of the interconnected realities that Zbigniew Brzezinski was dealing with that Alex is pretending don't exist.
jordan holmes
Someone might say that if you were above the two-party system and...
Famously opposed to the Iraq War, if I remember correctly, right?
Alex was opposed to the Iraq War?
Yeah.
So, it seems like you would be like, yeah, I'm glad that even people on the left paradigm...
Are like, the Iraq war is bad.
If you were above the two-party system.
dan friesen
Well, he's not.
It's all an act.
And I don't think he's ever actually even read that full speech.
jordan holmes
Oh, why would he?
He got what he needed.
dan friesen
He's seen the memes and that little clip that went around.
And then he wrote a story about the rest of the context.
And the rest of the context for Alex is a dumb impression.
And, oh, so we must kill them.
It's time to move and kill people.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So it's so stupid.
jordan holmes
And then claiming that's a direct quote.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, fuck off.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's abusive to the audience.
It doesn't give them the ability to actually choose...
Who they like and dislike in the world.
When you create completely false portraits of your enemies because you want to scare them and keep them in your side.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's why you start a cult.
I don't want these people to have a choice of their own.
dan friesen
So Jordan, we got a guest.
This is a guy that I haven't heard of before, I haven't seen.
A guy named Stu Peters.
jordan holmes
Stu Peters.
dan friesen
And so I looked him up.
And I thought his name was spelled S-T-U Peters?
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And so I looked that guy up, and apparently there's like a broadcaster in the UK who got in trouble for making some offensive comments about Black Lives Matter.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
I was like, that's an InfoWars guest.
jordan holmes
That's probably an InfoWars guest.
There you go.
dan friesen
Different Stu Peters.
jordan holmes
So, if I understand correctly now, I know it requires three to have a pattern, but I am beginning to suspect that all Stu Peters are bad.
dan friesen
I mean, I know of two.
I'm sorry if there's any Stu Peters in our audience, but these two are not helping your team.
jordan holmes
If there are, I need to know now you need to break the pattern of threes.
Because once we get to three, I'm going to then assume all Stu Peters from now on, evil people.
dan friesen
So Stu Peters is not stupendous.
Shut up.
jordan holmes
That wasn't my problem.
dan friesen
I like it.
unidentified
Like how I told you to shut up when you said nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Stu Peters is on, and I just...
This guy's a shithead.
But, like, I found this clip really interesting, because he is, like, if he's auditioning for a job with InfoWars, he nailed it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So many buzzwords, and we ran out of time when I was preparing this episode, but I was legit going to make bingo cards.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Because it's just like, I got bingo.
jordan holmes
He's hitting them all?
dan friesen
I legitimately said in the middle of this clip when I was listening to the episode, I got bingo.
jordan holmes
Did you need to use the free space, or did you get...
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, okay.
dan friesen
Actually, I got a blackout.
jordan holmes
You got a blackout.
dan friesen
Yeah.
stew peters
So due process here is not something that we deal with in the new woke states of America.
This is a condemnation, a demasculization, a feminization, the neutering, the castration of law enforcement officers everywhere, all over the place.
The rank and file is no longer effective.
Policing is 100% dead.
It's been overtaken by this liberal, woke, leftist, swamp, communist, radical, totalitarian, fascist leadership style.
jordan holmes
Lionel, where'd you come from?
dan friesen
Oh, God.
I got exhausted.
unidentified
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
jordan holmes
That's all I hear.
All I hear is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
dan friesen
But I was also listening to them like, Alex is going to want to hire this fucking dude.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
This guy, he's got info written all over him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And then it turns out that he got into a little bit of white victimhood.
And I'm like, Alex is writing a contract right now.
During his other interviews, Alex is eating a cheeseburger.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
On the edge of his seat saying buzzwords.
That's all Alex needs to hear.
dan friesen
This guy's calling a lawyer to get a contract drawn.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
stew peters
Okay, we are legalizing crime in the United States of America and villainizing anybody who expects the protection of the police, anybody who backs or supports law enforcement, and anybody who just wants to get up every day and enjoy the sanctity of a nice, quiet neighborhood and go to work.
If you are a white, God-fearing, patriotic, Christian, conservative specifically, you are destined for the gulags.
You're going to hell, period.
You're the criminal, and you should watch your six because there is not anybody at the higher ranks of law enforcement or the government that truly has your back.
All these institutions that we were raised, Alex, trying to be taught, these are the people that we can trust, are exactly the ones that are coming after you.
dan friesen
They don't like whites anymore.
unidentified
Oh, we used to own everything, but now we don't.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that typically when I hear someone who's got this verbal pattern, this guy who throws around buzzwords like he does, This guy who's...
I mean, the whole reason he's on is to talk about the Floyd trial.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The Derek Chauvin trial.
And, you know, that's what is the neutering of the police.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And so when I hear him, you know, bring up something like straight, God-fearing, white conservatives are heading for a gulag, I'm like, I gotta go, man.
jordan holmes
I can't stand these people because this is the type of shit where you're like, One, in a certain sense, this is a benchmark of the progress of the conservative right.
Because you could grab that exact dude, put him in the 60s, and he'd say the exact same shit, but he'd be more explicit.
Take him, put him in the 30s, he'd be saying the exact same shit.
But even more explicit than the 60s.
Put him in the 1890s.
dan friesen
Put him in the 1860s.
jordan holmes
Motherfucker wants slaves and he's a Democrat.
That's what this guy is.
I know this guy from every period of American history.
dan friesen
Go away!
jordan holmes
We're leaving you behind.
Just get up to speed, man.
dan friesen
I'm not a fan of what he brings to the table.
And I actually had a really complicated sort of experience with trying to figure out like...
What's this guy's deal?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Turns out, like, he used to be a bounty hunter, and so I was like, man, you should have just stayed a bounty hunter.
But then I'm like, I don't want you to be a bounty hunter.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not!
dan friesen
I don't want you to do either of the jobs you're doing.
jordan holmes
This is an evil person!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't want you to be a pundit nor bounty hunter.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
So it turns out just two weeks ago he was a bounty hunter.
jordan holmes
Great.
You should try data entry as a medium ground.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Turns out if you listen to this clip carefully, he doesn't know much about data.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
alex jones
The level of gaslighting has reached Mad Hatter levels here.
And so lay out some of those numbers.
stew peters
Well, you know, I don't have exact up-to-date numbers.
Here's what I do have.
And, you know, I only stopped chasing fugitives just weeks ago after 18 years of doing this.
And so it was my job, you know, in writing and staying proficient in these numbers to understand what's really going on in every single community that we serve.
Because regardless of whether or not we're cops, we're doing a job where we're arresting people, taking people to jail.
And it's a very real probability I've been shot at.
I mainly deal with people of color, with black folks.
and I don't know why that is, but that's what the facts are.
And the facts are that last year, when we look at the cops and the black people and this big theory of systemic racism, and I'm looking at it right here, nine unarmed black people were killed by cops last year.
Nine.
Nineteen.
White unarmed people were killed by cops last year.
More officers are killed every single year than unarmed blacks.
So the question is, when does the Blue Lives Matter?
dan friesen
So I can sort this out for Stu really fast if he's actually interested.
The reason more cops are shot each year than unarmed black people is because they're cops, and the job comes with a heightened likelihood of encountering criminals with guns.
It's not good that cops are shot, but it's also an understandable aspect of that line of work, an element that they don't share with people who happen to be black and unarmed.
As for the discrepancy between 9 unarmed black people and 19 unarmed white people being killed by cops last year, this is another one that's really super easy to sort out.
I have no idea if his numbers are even accurate, but let's assume for the sake of argument that they are, because that's what he's bringing to the table.
According to the U.S. census data, in 2019, the most recent numbers that he could find, the U.S. population is 60.1% white and 12.5% black.
Assuming Stu's numbers are correct, even though there are more total white people who are shot by cops, it's still wildly disproportionate when viewed in terms of the population sizes.
If the country were 50% white and 50% black, then his numbers might mean something, but the demographics don't look like that, and his numbers are nothing more than props that he's using to mask the We should care about police killing people, regardless of other variables involved.
But even Stu's own numbers illustrate that there's a much higher likelihood of an unarmed black person being killed by police than an unarmed white person.
Basically, this clip is a perfect encapsulation about how I feel about Stu Peters.
He's either too stupid to know that the stats he's using are meaningless, or he understands exactly what he's doing and he's trying to minimize issues related to race and policing.
If he's this sloppy with something like that...
That in theory has something to do with his primary field of expertise since he was a bounty hunter.
If he's that sloppy there, I'm not going to listen to him on any topic that he's not conceivably an expert in.
I don't want to know what this guy thinks about COVID-19.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I've never wondered why it is bounty hunters aren't in charge of things, but I think there's a good reason.
dan friesen
You don't support the reign of King Dog?
jordan holmes
I just don't think that bounty hunters should really be in charge of things.
Now look, I love Cowboy Bebop.
I think bounty hunting is great.
Yeah, that's great.
Fantastic.
Mandalorian, all of it.
Great.
Good stuff.
They don't run things, though.
dan friesen
I'm aware of...
Since I listened to this interview, this guy, I'm aware of two bounty hunters.
Him and Dog.
jordan holmes
Spike Spiegel, Jet Black, Faye Valentine.
dan friesen
I don't know any of these people.
jordan holmes
Radical Edward and Ein.
dan friesen
I'm talking about real life.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So there's Dog and this guy.
And both of them have stories about...
Crossing the border and trying to kidnap somebody.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Dog did that, and then this guy was telling a story on Alex's show about how he got in trouble for going to Mexico to try to extradite somebody.
It's like, you can't do that!
jordan holmes
I'm a bounty hunter!
Why do I have to pay attention to international law?
dan friesen
Look, I am Batman.
jordan holmes
I go wherever I want to solve crimes.
Slash just grab people.
dan friesen
Fuck this guy.
I skipped most of his interviews.
When you've got this annoying of a voice, you disqualify yourself that hard on stats.
I don't even really care.
jordan holmes
And literally everything you say is just a giant racist dog whistle.
dan friesen
Yes.
And we have a return on the podcast.
We have a return of somebody we haven't seen in a little bit while.
A little bit while.
jordan holmes
A little bit while.
dan friesen
We got the health ranger, Mike Adams.
He has a story about a guy who has an interesting perspective.
I don't fully understand it myself, and it would be kind of silly for me to try to pontificate about it.
But he is a guy who's trying to make an argument that...
A vaccine, it works on individual levels, but there may be some negative consequences from applying them broadly across the population when there's already an outbreak.
As I understand, that's the argument that he's putting forth.
Mike Adams takes that and now is on a new tip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's on a new tip.
jordan holmes
Is it under for humanity?
dan friesen
No, it's really, really over for humanity.
mike adams
So what can we do?
Of course, all the things that you've been talking about and your guest, Alex, which is boost your immune function, make sure you have good nutrition, get plenty of rest, and avoid vaccinated people.
Because they are the virus shedders.
They are the mutant factories.
And then get educated and try to educate the people around you so that they learn before they run over and try to get vaccinated.
Because if you vaccinate yourself as an ignorant, uninformed person, you are sacrificing your life.
I call it vaccine suicide.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
That's something.
jordan holmes
I mean, you could have called it Vaccinicide.
dan friesen
You could, yeah.
jordan holmes
I think it rolls off the tongue a lot better.
dan friesen
And Mike thinks he's a rapper.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Get the fuck out of here.
Alex can invent words that already existed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is kind of interesting to me because it's like, okay, this has evolved now, and now Mike Adams is saying avoid anyone who's been vaccinated.
jordan holmes
How do you get away with it?
You said it's over for humanity.
Now you're gone.
dan friesen
I think the idea that he's trying to put forth is that people who get vaccinated will end up causing mutations of the virus, and then they will give you...
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're the incubators for a whole new...
dan friesen
Right, so you gotta avoid them.
This is gonna turn into, like, I don't know.
Obviously, I don't know how many people take any of this seriously, but assuming that there are, you've gotta think that this would lead to communes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you have to isolate yourself from all other people.
Only trust what Alex Jones and Mike Adams say.
dan friesen
And, like, I don't know, you know, they're really mad about...
The idea that international travel countries might require proof of vaccination to get in.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
They're going to have to create communities where proof of non-vaccination is the only way you can get in.
jordan holmes
It seems so.
And if they have an outbreak in those communities, they're wiped out almost immediately.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
Pfft.
dan friesen
This is just dumb.
I don't know.
Anyway...
jordan holmes
I like how these guys have bad solutions to imaginary problems they made up.
dan friesen
Right.
But I think that the function of this narrative, in terms of the larger sphere of Infowars talking points, is I think that they recognize that, historically, we've seen outbreaks of...
vaccine preventable conditions in non-vaccinated communities.
A lot of times anti-vax clusters Sure.
End up having a resurgence of things that are preventable.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's why measles became a problem again.
dan friesen
And I think that they recognize that there is a decent chance that should covid stop being a problem due to widespread vaccination.
Yeah, that they'll end up being blamed.
Because they don't want to get vaccinated?
And so they have to create a new explanation for it, and it's vaccinated people have created mutant things within their body.
And then, guess what happens?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Then, people are going to come to your house and vaccinate you at gunpoint.
And not only that, apparently...
jordan holmes
I want Daleks to do it.
dan friesen
Hey, race war, also.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Damn it!
dan friesen
Yep.
I got bingo.
jordan holmes
I was so close.
alex jones
Once the next big wave breaks out from this, could be months, could be a year, According to medical doctors and scientists, they're going to blame us.
They already are.
Even though in the literature it admits it's not us, it doesn't matter.
They're still getting ready to blame us.
This is so dangerous.
You can see the whole plan right now.
mike adams
They're going to push the mass panic in the second wave.
And then say that this justifies gunpoint vaccinations.
So at that point, they will be able to have the political power to unleash now the woke military to go door-to-door in cities across America, confiscating your guns and vaccinating you at gunpoint.
alex jones
That's right.
Medical tyranny with a race war, with gun confiscation.
A medical tyranny civil war is the admitted plan.
You see it all being set up now.
In a minute and a half, how do we stop it?
dan friesen
You got 90 seconds?
jordan holmes
I got 90 seconds to tell you how to stop a race war, civil war, medical tyranny.
How do we stop it?
90 seconds.
Sound bites only.
No complicated plans.
Definitely not anything with nuance.
We're all dead!
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
It's over for humanity.
Yeah, I don't know why the race war got thrown in there, except for it's a preoccupation of these ding-dongs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just toss a race war in there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, this just feels like preemptive narrative building for the possibility of resurgences in non-vaccinated communities.
jordan holmes
Right.
So, if I understand correctly, so far what we're dealing with is Alex Jones is the only person you can trust.
You need to avoid all vaccinated people, which probably means you guys need to get together in a commune.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And a race war is obviously coming.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
So explain to me how different Alex is from Charles Manson.
dan friesen
I think...
jordan holmes
Well, Charles Manson never inspired people to storm the Capitol.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
jordan holmes
So there's that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
Well, I mean, I guess they are both friends with musicians.
Billy Corgan's been on Infowars.
jordan holmes
Totally.
unidentified
Huh.
dan friesen
Alex hasn't carved a swastika in his head yet.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That is true.
Now, we haven't seen him with his...
I wouldn't say...
Look, I haven't seen him naked.
I'm not saying he hasn't carved a swastika somewhere.
dan friesen
It's interesting.
Proof...
Evidence of...
unidentified
Absence is not absence of evidence.
jordan holmes
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
dan friesen
Something like that.
So, Mike Adams now is predicting that hundreds of millions will be dead because of the vaccine, though, not because of COVID.
jordan holmes
You lose!
You don't get to say that!
dan friesen
You just gotta say goodbye to your family.
Say goodbye.
Wave goodbye.
mike adams
All the things we just mentioned, take care of your immune system, take care of your health, avoid the vaccine at all costs, and avoid other people who are vaccinated.
Secondly, we've got to continue to build out our independent platforms like you have done, like I'm doing.
We've got to continue to expand our reach.
You know, the mainstream media is collapsing in terms of its viewership, and yet more and more people are viewing independent truth media, even though the censorship has never been worse.
But we are winning.
To those people who are willing to live.
Those who want to commit suicide and die, we can't help them any longer.
Pray for them, wish them the best, but wave goodbye to those people because many of those people, millions or even hundreds of millions may die.
But for the survivors, educate, inform, and connect.
And that's how we can rebuild society after this vaccine holocaust is unleashed upon our world.
And that's what it is, Alex.
It's a vaccine holocaust that will kill maybe a thousand times.
More people than the Holocaust of World War II.
We don't know.
alex jones
I agree.
Everything at that level intellectually tells me this is just incredibly dangerous, and we've got to warn people now while we still can.
dan friesen
Thousands of times the people that died in the Holocaust is in the billions.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, I mean, unless you believe the Holocaust didn't happen.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess we gotta take Mike's temperature on that.
I'm not sure I've ever actually heard him talk about that.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna need more specifics on what he thinks the numbers from the Holocaust are.
dan friesen
Holy shit, this is dramatic.
jordan holmes
It is what?
It's almost to the one-year anniversary of It's Over for Humanity, so it's...
dan friesen
It might be past it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, so every year we get an It's Over for Humanity around March.
Beware the Ides of March, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And then in a couple months, Alex and Michael have a fight about something and it'll disappear for a few months.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And it'll show back up.
jordan holmes
At two, Adams.
dan friesen
Yeah.
As dramatic as ever.
God, it's just, he seems like a teenager.
It really seems like somebody going through puberty.
He feels like he's out of control with his own feelings or something.
I don't know how to describe it, but it just feels childish, the way that he communicates.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it's insane.
It's insane, and it's insane that people listen to this and don't go like...
You said it was going to be over for humanity last year.
This is reruns, man.
dan friesen
But also the narrative has shifted so many times since then that it's almost even impossible to keep track of what it is that's going to kill you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Or how it's going to play out.
But don't forget that they've been consistent the whole time and they're right about everything.
jordan holmes
100%.
It's important that we build our immune systems separately.
The InfoWars store, as well as Mike Adams the Health Ranger, sell things that can boost your immune system.
Quote, unquote.
dan friesen
Wasn't he selling like horses?
Horse dewormer, or wasn't he trying to push horse dewormer a while back?
jordan holmes
Motherfucker was a bleach dude, right?
No, he was the Ebola cured guy.
dan friesen
He cured Ebola.
jordan holmes
He cured Ebola.
dan friesen
With more Ebola.
unidentified
Alcohol and Ebola.
jordan holmes
Yeah, with more Ebola.
unidentified
So what you want to do is you want to take a glass, put some whiskey in it, put some whiskey in it, little Ebola.
jordan holmes
Have yourself a fun time.
dan friesen
So we have one last guest before we get out of here, and it's Stuart Rhodes.
jordan holmes
Cool.
And I gotta say, stews are becoming universally bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a bad day for stews.
jordan holmes
Stews are not having a good day.
No.
dan friesen
I'm gonna have to get rid of that dish from my diet.
It's so bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would say that Stewart's interview is largely the same as the stuff that we talked about when he was on with Harrison Smith.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So there's not really all that much to go over, but I do think that it's really interesting, this way that Alex is trying to engage with him, where...
He simultaneously wants to, like, really talk about how we should have a revolutionary war.
But he also doesn't really want the responsibility of having said those things.
jordan holmes
Look, I don't want to get into a gate-of-gate circumstance all over again.
dan friesen
And, like, hey, Stuart, you're, like, one degree away from the people who are in the Capitol.
I kind of am, too, but maybe I wasn't in a group chat with them.
jordan holmes
And if a RICO case was brought against you, guess who's getting convicted?
alex jones
And so, Stuart, I get it.
America's being taken over by Chinese.
They're butchering the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
They're purging the military.
Biden says he's going to confiscate the guns.
They're coming out with forced inoculations.
The borders are wide open.
Yes, by any historical yardstick, we have every right to declare 1776 Part 2. I just instinctively look at that and realize how they've set this up politically.
And how they want a civil war so China can take over, and I'm really trying to get the governors and the political system moving to stop this.
You may be right that there's no way to fix it, or is there a way to fix it?
Because, you know, they're claiming you want violence, they're claiming you want offensive stuff.
That's not the man I know.
But at the same time, if we're attacked, we have a right and a duty to protect ourselves.
So we far pass the Declaration of Independence point.
Nobody can deny that.
There's plenty of cowards in the government that are going to keep appeasing the system forever.
But there is a point at which the globalists are going to push where there is a breaking point.
I don't want that breaking point, but it is approaching.
unidentified
Well, we're now on the same path the founders walked, and we need to look at their wisdom and do the same thing they did.
dan friesen
How do you even respond to that non-question?
Ramble.
jordan holmes
Hey, so it's cool that we kill everybody.
I'm not saying we should kill everybody, but it's cool that we kill everybody, right?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that clip of Alex was just multiple times saying we have every justification for starting a revolutionary war, but I like talking to governors.
What the fuck governors are you talking to?
Talk to DeSantis down in Florida?
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
Well, he would be a top anti-globalist.
dan friesen
He would be someone who, if any governor would talk to Alex, I would suspect it might be, he's on the short list.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
But yeah, it's just justifications for why a revolutionary war and offensive violence could be set off, which isn't actually offensive, it's defensive.
But if you're Stuart Rhodes, how the fuck do we even respond to that?
There's no, like...
Yes?
Yeah, bro.
jordan holmes
Super, bro.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, he's just like, hey, as far as I'm concerned, all the Oath Keepers did is walk in and take selfies to the Capitol on the 6th.
I'm not going to let them hang out to dry.
jordan holmes
I just...
It's so weird to broadcast your extemporaneous fantasies about murdering everybody.
That's a strange thing.
I would hope that you would keep that one quiet.
If you were like, I fantasize about murdering people all the time, so much so that I cannot go several hours without talking about it.
You can keep those hours off air.
dan friesen
Well, see, this is where we get back to what I was saying at the beginning.
Like that tone that Alex has where he's coming back from a week being gone and he's sleepy and kind of like, I'm going to go to a special report.
That's weird, but it's not weird for Alex.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Being so obsessed with wanting to talk about your murder fantasies on a radio show is weird, but it's not weird for Alex.
His show is so stupid, and that's just what this is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's really fucked up that...
Their murder fantasies have gone so far from the original ones that we used to listen to where they're like, if somebody tried to kill my family, I'd get to shoot them a bunch of times, which I don't want to do.
I talk about doing it all the time.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
If they come for the guns, we'll rise up or whatever.
jordan holmes
If they do this, we'll kill people, and that's what we have to do.
dan friesen
Yeah, now it's transitioned to...
jordan holmes
And now it's like, let's kill all the left.
dan friesen
We're so far past the point of justification for all of this.
They're attacking us with bioweapons.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's irresponsible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So yeah, I mean, I guess I feel good that Alex is back where he belongs in that chair.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He doesn't belong in a grocery store unless it was locked from the outside.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Unless he's waiting out a zombie apocalypse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
He would be the guy who would lie about being bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
Absolutely.
And he'd enjoy eating you while he was still not a zombie, and be like, I'm just practicing.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna eat your ass.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm gonna eat your ass.
dan friesen
It's a joke.
It's Swift.
It's Jonathan Swiftian.
So, we come to the end of this, and I don't think a whole lot happened.
Alex is back, but he's, I guess, is upset about Marvin Hagler and stories that he's making up about him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's mad about a bunch of other stuff he's making up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know what?
Let's go through the important work topics real quick.
And let's just keep count.
Do you want to get a percentage?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
We got Marvelous Marvin, nope, not important.
Mysterious Trip, definitely not important.
Grammys, nope.
Earpiece, nope.
I'm great, nope.
I suppose climate change would be important, but it is punishment from God, so that's a nope.
Drugs at the border.
That's important.
dan friesen
Sure, but not the way he's covering it.
jordan holmes
Definitely not, so let's cut that one out.
The left is evil.
Eh, we're probably evil.
dan friesen
That's a push.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'll give that one a circle.
I made up a word.
Nope.
Avatar, Blade Runner, definitely not.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Silence Weapons for Quiet Wars, super not.
Irishman, 1776, get the fuck out of here!
dan friesen
That might undo the circle.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that one takes the left as evil.
Operation Crimson Contagion, real, but he's lying about it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Forced inoculation's not gonna happen.
Why don't we have bounty hunters run things?
Very obvious, not important.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Gunpoint vaccinations, same thing as forced inoculation, and it's the one-year anniversary of its overflow.
dan friesen
There will only be lone survivors.
jordan holmes
At best, we've got 0.5%.
Sure.
dan friesen
One out of 20. It's like Meatloaf says.
One out of 20 ain't bad.
Two out of three ain't bad.
One out of 20 ain't bad.
jordan holmes
That's good stuff.
dan friesen
Jordan, we'll be back on Friday.
Check back in.
See if Alex can start cooking with some gas.
jordan holmes
I hope so.
dan friesen
This is kind of fun, though.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
It's good to be back in the saddle.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what?
dan friesen
I do mean that, but then as soon as I have to say why, I can't tell you.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Absolutely not.
No, no, no.
dan friesen
If I try to rationalize or justify or explain why, it's like, it was still fun to go over this, even though it's all incredibly stupid.
jordan holmes
I can't.
I think it's because you like the work.
dan friesen
I think it was just because I got to read that Zbigniew Brzezinski article.
I found a primary source we could talk about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, tracking that down was probably very enjoyable for you.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was probably it.
Anyway, we'll do that.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do, Dan.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to Ben Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Or on Facebook.
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I am the goblin of monthly birthday shout-outs.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
alex jones
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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