Today, Dan and Jordan are disappointed to learn that Alex Jones has been hanging out in a Florida grocery store all week, so they turn their attention to the Infowars morning show, The American Journal. In this installment, Stewart Rhodes makes poor excuses for his actions, and conversation on the Journal takes a turn toward the Nazi side of things.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight. | |
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
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I'm Jordan. | |
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today is something that I did not know existed and has come into my life and I'm pretty excited about. | ||
| And that is hot honey. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| No reviews. | ||
| I was at the store. | ||
| What's the point? | ||
| It's hot. | ||
| I don't understand! | ||
| I was at the store, and I saw it on the shelf, and I thought, what the fuck is this? | ||
| I'd never heard of it before. | ||
| It is honey that's infused with chilies, and so it's spicy. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| It is so good, because it's like honey. | ||
| It goes on things. | ||
| It has that honeyness to it, but then also the heat. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It is fantastic. | ||
| You can add honey to things. | ||
| Mustard, you can add honey to it. | ||
| You can't have mustard honey. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| No, honey is honey, my friend. | ||
| I gotta make some mustard honey. | ||
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I'll be right back. | |
| I have strong rules. | ||
| I have strong opinions about whether or not honey. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I think you might come around if you try a little bit of that. | ||
| All right, I probably will. | ||
| It sounds incredible. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| Yeah, I believe it. | ||
| And, you know, I've only had it on a bagel or two so far, but there's so many things I want to explore putting it on. | ||
| Celine! | ||
| Celine, run! | ||
| Run, Celine! | ||
| Get out while you can! | ||
| Come here. | ||
| Come here. | ||
| Gotta put some honey on you. | ||
| What about you? | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| Dan, my bright spot is also food related. | ||
| But, okay. | ||
| Now, this is going to seem simple, but... | ||
| Have you ever had a really good pear, Dan? | ||
| Yeah, I love pears. | ||
| Like, pears are the best, but pears have the shortest period, the shortest window of perfection. | ||
| True, that is true. | ||
| They turn pretty quick. | ||
| You're always either eating a hard pear or you've waited too long and it's mush. | ||
| And yesterday, I ate a pear at like the... | ||
| Precise five-minute window where it was perfect. | ||
| What kind of pear do you like? | ||
| Do you like an Anjou? | ||
| I like an Anjou pear! | ||
| Do you like a Bosque? | ||
| I'm not a Bosque pear guy. | ||
| Is that even a kind of pear? | ||
| I like a green! | ||
| I like a real green. | ||
| I don't like the brown pears. | ||
| Nuh-uh, don't get me into that. | ||
| I realized as I started to talk, I don't know other kinds of... | ||
| I don't even think Bosque is one of them. | ||
| No, Bosque was a pear. | ||
| I don't know pairs. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| I do love them, though. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Yeah, and I always got a little bit of shade when I was younger, which I'm a little bit... | ||
| Well, I'm a little bit peeved about this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm still actually a little bitter, a little raw, and I gotta air my grievances. | ||
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Unlike... | |
| Pears! | ||
| My dad is a huge fan of jelly bellies. | ||
| And so the jelly bellies were often in the house. | ||
| Jelly beans and all kinds of flavors. | ||
| And of course, as you're a kid, people like the toasted marshmallow. | ||
| That's the kind of thing that people like. | ||
| They like all these candy kind of flavors. | ||
| My favorite was the juicy pear. | ||
| The juicy pear! | ||
| It was the best. | ||
| I thought it was really good, and I took a lot of shit for it. | ||
| You took a lot of shit. | ||
| To the point where I'm 36 years old. | ||
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It's been a long time for you to be remembering. | |
| The Jelly Belly incident of 1994. | ||
| Left some deep wounds. | ||
| Yeah, pears are great. | ||
| Yeah, pears are amazing. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over. | ||
| A little bit different than normal, and we'll get into why here in a second. | ||
| But before we do, let's take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who've signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, you're going to love this one. | ||
| I pooted on Scalia's pillow. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, American hero. | ||
| Next, Dan F. Great name, I know. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Dan. | ||
| Next, Lingle Bingle. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Lingle Bingle. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, BB Star Stuff. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, BBB Star Stuff. | ||
| Just two Bs. | ||
| Just two Bs? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Not the Better Business Bureau Star Stuff. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Next, Zilla. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Zilla. | ||
| Next, Amara. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Amara. | ||
| And City Bird. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, City Bird. | ||
| I got a special shout-out, a technocrat shout-out. | ||
| I'm going to give that to someone. | ||
| This is a very special shout-out. | ||
| Laura's baby needs to arrive now so she can take maternity leave already. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| I'm getting an update on this. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I think we got that email just an hour ago. | ||
| Is there anything new coming up? | ||
| It turns out we have an update. | ||
| Congrats, Laura, on your baby policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare... | ||
| Infowar on you! | ||
| Congratulations, Laura, and baby Policy Wong. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much to the both of you. | ||
| And Matt, for no reason at all. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But also, thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much, Matt. | ||
| So, before we get into today's episode, I just wanted to make a little bit of a correction about our last episode. | ||
| As I misspoke, when I was talking about Stefan Molyneux giving that speech, I had said that that was in New Zealand, and I kind of fucked that up. | ||
| I conflated two things in my head. | ||
| That was actually in Melbourne, Australia, that he gave that speech. | ||
| And the reason that I got it mixed up was because when they went on this tour, they had intended to speak in New Zealand, and New Zealand said, fuck no. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And that was what I had mixed up. | ||
| Yeah, that's a nice little bit of context to add to that. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| So that was in Australia. | ||
| Good on you, New Zealand. | ||
| Tell Stefan Molyneux to go fuck himself as much as you like. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, I felt like it had been a while since we checked in with present-day Alex Jones, and honestly, I was getting pretty happy to have had that break from his uninspired-ass broadcasting. | ||
| It's been nice. | ||
| I was actually kind of excited, though, to get back into the mud and see what his dumbass was up to, but wouldn't you know it? | ||
| I checked back in, and Owen Troyer has been hosting Alex's show all this week, so there's no new episodes of Alex's stuff to go over. | ||
| As it turns out, Alex has taken off for another workcation, this time heading up to Florida to cover what he calls a mask rebellion that's taking place at a grocery store in the city of Naples. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The store is called Oaks Farm Seed to Table, and Alex may or may not be broadcasting many special reports from live inside the store. | ||
| Here is a little clip. | ||
| Because the state is so frickin' awesome! | ||
| Florida is awesome! | ||
| Yeah, Florida! | ||
| And seed to table, the Great Oak Farms! | ||
| Give it up for all the great crew here, folks! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Everybody's shopping in this place. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| You can hear about like two people clapping in the background. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
| Yeah, that's a long drop. | ||
| That's a long drop for Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I'll see you guys in Southern Illinois at the American Legion where they're holding a mask drive for no one. | ||
| Now, if I play my cards right, I might be able to go to a car dealership opening and record live. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| The situation with this grocery store is actually kind of funny. | ||
| It's actually not in the city of Naples, technically, and if it were, it would not have a mask mandate because the Naples City Council decided against imposing one, preferring instead to just make it a thing they strongly recommend. | ||
| However, this store is in North Naples, which is about five miles north of city limits, and is subject to the jurisdiction of the county, in this case Collier County, who do have a mask mandate in place. | ||
| As such, the store's owner, Alfie Oaks, has been waging a protracted campaign against masks since he feels like this COVID-19 stuff is a hoax. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I poked around this story a bit, and honestly, it's kind of cookie-cutter. | ||
| It's a Republican business owner making a mini-celebrity of himself in the anti-mask game, and there's not much more to it. | ||
| Everything is about what you'd expect, all the way down to him calling George Floyd a, quote, disgraceful career criminal after he was killed, and saying that Black Lives Matter is a hoax. | ||
| That led to the Lees County School District severing their contract with him, which prompted Oaks to sue the school district for $50 million, claiming, as all bigots do, that their free speech had been violated. | ||
| Oh, yes, of course! | ||
| I don't know what his contract with the school district said, but if they had a clause in there about being able to terminate the contract for cause, I don't think. | ||
| I don't think this is a free speech issue. | ||
| In fact, I would assume that since he's a staunch conservative, Alfie should be in favor of the school district being able to practice free association. | ||
| Rules for others and not for me! | ||
| They shouldn't be forced to retain business ties with someone they're opposed to being connected to. | ||
| Rules for others and not for me! | ||
| Anyway, I don't particularly care about Alfie Oaks, nor do I care too much about Alex's very transparent attempt to vampirically feast on the attention Oaks is getting at the moment. | ||
| If Alex had done, like, a whole show from the grocery store, then you might be dealing with an excited Dan. | ||
| But as it stands, this is just too little to get worked up about. | ||
| It's really funny to imagine, though, going into a Whole Foods or a Juul and just trying to get some produce and you hear a guy yelling about the UN trying to kill the children while you're shopping. | ||
| Yeah, I can't get the image out of my head of Alex and Owen on Supermarket Sweep together. | ||
| Get the turkey! | ||
| That'd be great! | ||
| Grind the beans! | ||
| Fill it up with the meats! | ||
| Get the beans! | ||
| I don't feel like that would elevate my customer experience if Alex was broadcasting live. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| So I set out to find an episode to make for the good people out there to enjoy, and as luck would have it, while Alex has been in Florida, he paid a visit to a podcast in Miami called Flagrant 2. I watched this thinking maybe it would be good to cover, and it's just embarrassing. | ||
| Is that a basketball podcast? | ||
| No, that's the Flagrant Ones. | ||
| That is a real podcast, The Flagrant Ones. | ||
| The guys from Hollywood Handbook and Carl Tartt, they do a podcast called The Flagrant Ones. | ||
| Yeah, well, Flagrant 2 is the... | ||
| No, because they're talking about this being like flagrantly free speech, offensive... | ||
| Talking. | ||
| It's comics talking. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| It's comics talking, man. | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| It's flagrant. | ||
| You're not funny if you're doing that. | ||
| I watched it thinking maybe it would be good, like I said, but I got nothing. | ||
| Alex is so fucked up that it's not even fun. | ||
| The guy who's throwing hatchets on Christmas Eve at his own cameras in his own studio is fun. | ||
| The guy who's just trashed, annoying Rob Du about the ways to learn and a crystal skull covered in semen is fun. | ||
| Hilarious. | ||
| This is not fun. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
| There was a moment in the interview that Alex did a while back with Logan Paul where one of Logan's friends commented to Alex that he had a quote heavy pour when he was getting another glass of booze. | ||
| The tone wasn't like hey cool pour man. | ||
| They had a touch of concern in it like telling Alex to slow down. | ||
| This interview has the opposite vibe where the hosts are laughing their asses off and just celebrating how basically incoherent Alex is becoming. | ||
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Alex At the end of the thing, one of the hosts has a list of questions for Alex, like, was 9-11 a part-time job? | |
| Which should give you some sense of the value and comedic merit of this show. | ||
| The interview was so bad that I don't even think that it rises to the level of deserving criticism. | ||
| Like, the only thing that I heard in it that I thought was interesting was Alex really drunk trying to explain why we need to cut off all foreign aid. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm like, wait, hold on. | ||
| Now we're back on all foreign aid now? | ||
| When did this happen? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Ron Paul still is his drunken soul. | ||
| Yeah, right? | ||
| There's also a very, very... | ||
| Just depressing stretch. | ||
| Where Alex is really drunk and he tries to call Rogan a few times. | ||
| He's like, let's get Rogan on the phone! | ||
| And Joe doesn't answer. | ||
| It's such a mess. | ||
| It's not worthwhile as an episode. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| So I was trying to figure out, like, what are we gonna do? | ||
| And then I remember, oh, that's right. | ||
| There's another motherfucker I've been meaning to talk about. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| I haven't gotten a chance very often. | ||
| That motherfucker's named Harrison Smith. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| We're doing White Nationalist Happy Hour with Harrison Smith in the mornings? | ||
| Host of the American Journal. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| Harrison Smith. | ||
| He had caught my eye a while back because of, first of all, his gleeful, the Patriots have taken over the Capitol. | ||
| Yeah, we won, guys! | ||
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On January 6th. | |
| We did it! | ||
| And then also just listening to some of his shows, I'd be like, this is pretty overt shit, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is pretty biggity. | ||
| And so I decided I'm going to get back in, see what he's been up to. | ||
| I didn't think that this was a possibility for a while, because he's been gone. | ||
| He just had a paternity leave. | ||
| He just had a baby. | ||
| Congratulations, Harrison. | ||
| And he's been gone, so Rob Dew had been hosting, and Tom Papert had been hosting, and boy, no good. | ||
| But now, Harrison's back. | ||
| Do white nationalists have to scream, like, take that great replacement every time they have a kid? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Like, in the birthing room, whenever the kid comes out, they're like, it's breaching! | ||
| They have to be like, take that! | ||
| Great replacement theory! | ||
| At very least, they make little fun jokes with their partners. | ||
| You won't replace this one? | ||
| All right. | ||
| Hey, here we go. | ||
| You don't love me anymore. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So there's one particular reason that I decided to actually look at this particular episode, which is March 10th, and it turns out I fucked up, so we're actually going to have to listen to another thing. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| But here is the beginning of March 10th. | ||
| Still got some good fucking music. | ||
| Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| You're watching American Journal Infowars.com, band.video. | ||
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What a day full of news I have for you today. | |
| And at the end of this program, at around 10.30 Central Standard Time, Alex Jones will be taking over the broadcast from his outpost in the state of Florida. | ||
| A grocery store. | ||
| Very excited to bring a lot of information to you to take your calls as well. | ||
| And we do have a new sale at Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| I'll give you that information very shortly. | ||
| But first, let us begin, as we always do, with our daily dispatch. | ||
| Roll the stinger, please. | ||
| What? | ||
| He's got sound effects. | ||
| Wow, we're doing... | ||
| Got a fax machine getting in the headlights. | ||
| All right, okay. | ||
| All right, so this is directed by Quentin Tarantino, and there's a fax machine. | ||
| That's all I know. | ||
| We got Zamfear bringing us in, the king of the pan flute. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Still love it. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| If that's like intro music for the beginning of the show, it's mellow as hell. | ||
| I think I pointed this out after our last time we talked about him, but I still enjoy it. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's great, but isn't that the song that Bill dies to in Kill Bill volume? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| It's in Kill Bill. | ||
| It's in Kill Bill, at least. | ||
| And that's why he knows the song. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| But, um, the thing I think is really interesting is, like, that, like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, the sound sting is like, okay, you're showing the barest... | ||
| Bones attempt at craft. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's interesting, because no one else really tries. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That is fair. | ||
| And then he just goes on to read off headlines, and I don't really care. | ||
| It's a very boring segment. | ||
| So, at the beginning of this episode, he has quite a pronouncement. | ||
| In today's program, I'll be laying out what I think is a rather convincing argument for the fact that we are rapidly racing towards a conflict that I would call World War III. | ||
| The battle lines are being drawn and we're seeing a lot of posturing that portends great devastation in our future. | ||
| It has to do with China, Iran, and the Western powers aligning themselves against those. | ||
| Those bad countries. | ||
| We're the good guys, of course. | ||
| What a brand new development that is. | ||
| Also, Harrison clearly hasn't gotten the memo. | ||
| According to his anti-communist buddies, like Alex, World War III already happened. | ||
| The Cold War was World War III, and some even think that the Iraq War has turned into World War IV, so if there's another one coming, Harrison should be calling it World War V. I thought we were still fighting World War II, since Nazis still seem to be the bad guys. | ||
| In this case, I think that him using World War III sounds a lot more exciting, so I really understand why Harrison would just go ahead and stick with that. | ||
| Branding. | ||
| Presentation. | ||
| Scare mongering. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So, not only does Alfie Oaks think that George Floyd was a criminal and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Harrison has some thoughts. | ||
| Meanwhile, the trial of George Floyd continues to move forward and more revelations are being made. | ||
| Releasing of the autopsy report has revealed Did it! | ||
| Did it! | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| There aren't revelations coming out about the case at this point because the trial was still in the jury selection phase. | ||
| The coroner's report and autopsy information that the public has access to is the exact same information we've had for like six months and it doesn't show what Harrison is claiming. | ||
| He's pretending that there's a new piece of information that's come out that verifies his pre-existing talking points because he knows that no one in the audience demands better and they already believe that George Floyd's death is no big deal. | ||
| The Washington Post had an article about the upcoming trial on March 10th, and here's what they had to say. | ||
| Quote, Seven experts in toxicology, cardiology, and illegal drug use consulted by the Washington Post largely disagreed with that idea, most of them strenuously. | ||
| All but one said the autopsy findings and other court documents coupled with the well-known chain of events that evening made death by fentanyl overdose unlikely to impossible. | ||
| And the other one was just Rudy Giuliani wearing a doctor's coat, right? | ||
| Experts who have weighed in on the matter are pretty clear that what happened to Floyd doesn't resemble what happens in cases of opiate overdose, which is why no one on the scene administered naloxone. | ||
| They did have it. | ||
| They had the drug that would be used in the case of an opiate. | ||
| They have to. | ||
| The overwhelming consensus is that, though there were drugs in his system, drugs were not the cause of George Floyd's death. | ||
| As the WAPO article points out, this defense is one that police use all the time when they kill people. | ||
| Abuse all the time! | ||
| Yeah, it's what they did in the case of the Rodney King beating, when it was alleged that King was on PCP, and that made him such a threat that it justified the police's actions. | ||
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Totally. | |
| This is just something that they do, and this is Harrison Smith essentially just... | ||
| You know, taking defense arguments uncritically and then also towing the line for just sort of like exactly what cops say all the time. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| This is... | ||
| It's weird how people are trying to litigate this like the NFL tries to litigate what a catch is. | ||
| You know, like, oh, you gotta get it all the way. | ||
| You have to make a football move. | ||
| You have to get all the way and you have to take one step forward for it to be a catch. | ||
| No, you have to make a football move. | ||
| A football move, whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| You know, and it's like... | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| George Floyd is dead because of Derek Chauvin and his buddies. | ||
| The end. | ||
| There's no... | ||
| You can talk about how much... | ||
| It's like, did he murder him premeditated? | ||
| You can do all that stuff. | ||
| But no, he was dead because of those guys. | ||
| The end. | ||
| And it appears that even if there were some sort of a... | ||
| I'm not saying this is the case, but if this argument that is being made by Harrison were even true... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then you still have negligent homicide on the part of these cops who would have had a responsibility to address the medical condition that was supposedly happening. | ||
| Cops are supposed to keep people alive now? | ||
| What's their job, Dan? | ||
| Protecting and serving? | ||
| I don't understand those words at all when applied to cops. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| So, this show starts out a little bit slow. | ||
| I know Harrison has declared that World War III is upon us, and... | ||
| I gotta be honest, I didn't make it to him explaining that if he did. | ||
| Because I got sidetracked. | ||
| Honestly, on Infowars, World War 3 is a slow news day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And this is just like, there's scattershot headlines until he goes to calls. | ||
| And here's another one of these little petty complaints he has. | ||
| This one's about Biden not giving enough press conferences. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| You can only imagine if President Trump had dared to go 50 days without... | ||
| Can you imagine that? | ||
| They'd be impeaching him already for this. | ||
| In February 2020, it was reported that it had been over 300 days since Trump had had a formal press briefing. | ||
| So Harrison can go ahead and shove that stupid tone of his up his own ass. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, go fuck yourself. | ||
| To make matters worse, ABC News reported in September 2019 that not only had Trump not done these press conferences, but it had been, quote, six months since a White House press secretary last came to the podium in a briefing room to field questions from reporters. | ||
| Yeah, and if Biden had done that, wait, what? | ||
| I do think that Biden should face criticism for not having press conferences enough or yet, since I think it's a helpful piece of moving forward. | ||
| And I directed the same criticism at Trump when he was doing the same thing, because I think the transparency and availability to the public... | ||
| is a good thing to encourage in our leadership. | ||
| Harrison and Infowars don't really have any underlying beliefs. | ||
| They just attack their predetermined enemies and glorify whoever they like at the moment, regardless if they're doing the same things. | ||
| They'll pretend that their hero didn't actually do what the villain is now doing. | ||
| But worse, not long ago, because if they did acknowledge that, they'd have to explain why it wasn't a big deal for them when Trump did the same thing that they're so upset Biden is doing now, and that would unravel the game. | ||
| It would really make things difficult if you had to have sort of like a consistent position throughout your whole... | ||
| That would really fuck up the game. | ||
| Yeah, it would be tough. | ||
| Yeah, they'd be out of business. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| Maybe, maybe there's something to this not having press conferences thing. | ||
| Perhaps, again, we can take another lesson from this, which is... | ||
| This is maybe what Trump should have done. | ||
| Maybe you just cut off the press and you just do whatever the hell you want without taking questions, without accepting criticism. | ||
| Harrison, you're in luck. | ||
| Harrison, I have got great news for you. | ||
| I have got great news. | ||
| You can get rid of the maybe. | ||
| You can get rid of the what-ifs. | ||
| This is so dumb. | ||
| You are talking about a thing a man has done recently. | ||
| And if I recall... | ||
| Your network celebrated extensively. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, Trump is out of office, but there's someone else who's in office that I think that InfoWars is warming up to quite a bit, and that person is Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| And with that, I'd like to go to another video here. | ||
| It's Marjorie Taylor Greene talking on the floor of the Congress yesterday, talking about House Resolution 8 and House Resolution 1446. | ||
| Gun control legislation. | ||
| So it's really cool to see them warming up to Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| Definitely wouldn't have suspected that that was the inevitable destination of the path that begins with hero-worshipping Ron Paul. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| H.R. 8 is about expanding background checks for people purchasing guns. | ||
| The other bill they're talking about is meant to close what's known as the Charleston loophole, named after the 2015 shooting because it was how Dylann Roof was able to purchase the guns that he used to kill nine people at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church. | ||
| See, when you go to buy a gun, your name is run through the National Instant Criminal Background Check system, which should provide a yes or no result within minutes. | ||
| However, in some cases, the automated system runs into complications and can't make a determination. | ||
| In these cases, the FBI who run the system have three days to provide a yes or no to the gun seller, and if they fail to give a determination in that time, the seller gets to decide if they sell the guns or not. | ||
| And you better believe they almost always do, because they're selling guns. | ||
| Yeah, I do appreciate that guns operate under the same laws as pumpkins that turn into carriages. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This bill that Harrison's complaining about would change that window from three days to ten days to hopefully provide more oversight that would stop things like future Dylann Roof's having easy access to guns. | ||
| Consider this stat from a report put out by the Center for American Progress. | ||
| In 2018, 4,240 background checks were denied nationwide after the three-day investigation period elapsed. | ||
| In at least 3,960 of those cases, a gun was sold to the prohibited buyer at the discretion of the dealer, requiring officers from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives to attempt to retrieve these guns from individuals with a potentially dangerous criminal history. | ||
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Cool. | |
| This loophole results in tons of people who shouldn't be allowed to have guns getting guns, which poses a bit of a threat and also creates a ton of work and expense for the ATF to try and correct the mistakes caused by a... | ||
| Nearly too short window of time being given for these background check systems to provide an answer. | ||
| I am really confused as to what situations require a gun so fast that we cannot wait for the FBI to give a determination. | ||
| I mean, three days or ten days or a year, what do you need a gun for now? | ||
| If someone's barging into your house, you need a gun immediately, perhaps. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The background check delay isn't going to help you one way or another, whether it exists or not. | ||
| No. | ||
| And if you miss out on hunting season this year, I feel like that's your fault. | ||
| You should have gone two weeks earlier. | ||
| You could have gone two weeks earlier. | ||
| Not a problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think that both of these bills are completely sensible. | ||
| So it's great to see Harrison try to attack them by not discussing the bills in detail at all and relying on a video of a QAnon weirdo in Congress to make his argument for him. | ||
| This is just pathetic. | ||
| That's all you need to do. | ||
| This is outrageously dumb. | ||
| I'm gonna go to a recording I made of Marjorie Taylor Greene's remarks on the house floor. | ||
| She made a bit of a better argument than that. | ||
| Did she? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| So, Harrison is wanting to go to calls. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But there's not enough calls. | ||
| And I would suspect that this is because Rob Dew fucked up his show. | ||
| I need this phone line full. | ||
| We got empty spaces here. | ||
| I'm not used to seeing this. | ||
| I was hosting American Journal for a little over a month. | ||
| Full phone lines the whole time. | ||
| I go away for two weeks. | ||
| Take care of my new baby boy. | ||
| Come back. | ||
| Nobody's calling in. | ||
| This is unacceptable, folks. | ||
| I need your help. | ||
| I can't do this show by myself. | ||
| I need the info warriors calling in. | ||
| I suspect what we're going to learn about some of these callers... | ||
| I have a very strong theory about why calls might have dropped out whenever Harrison left. | ||
| And was on vacation. | ||
| Because Rob Dew was like, no Nazis, please. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| I have a hunch. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Excuse me, could you please get rid of everybody who says code words for Jew? | ||
| I'm gonna have to hang up. | ||
| The phone lines are empty! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my god, what happened? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So we get to this first caller, and I just think he's weird. | ||
| I think this is a weird dude. | ||
| And with that, we will go to our first call. | ||
| We have Andy in California. | ||
| He wants to talk about the upcoming Passover. | ||
| Thanks for calling in, Andy. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Hi. | |
| Can you hear me all right? | ||
| I can hear you fine. | ||
| Thanks for calling in. | ||
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All right. | |
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| This year, I noticed that Easter and Passover are on the same date, April 4th. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, it's not, Harrison. | ||
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When you look at the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 38, it talks about the blessings God will give you if you follow His ways. | |
| And the second half of the chapter is all, the curses that'll happen if you go after straight gods, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sounds like a real shitty God to me. | ||
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This star being not anything really to do with God's law, a Phoenician fertility goddess. | |
| It's just kind of like a little slap in my face, like, wow, maybe this is one of our chances to maybe get it right before it gets any worse. | ||
| Because if you look at everything you guys talk about and what we're looking at in the world today, it fits those curses, I mean, perfectly. | ||
| And it's not satanic organizations and whatnot that are doing it. | ||
| Well, I mean, they might have a hand in it, but God definitely allows it to happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in case you want to learn something, or Harrison, if you're listening, Easter and Passover are both religious observances that don't involve specific dates on our calendars. | ||
| Christmas, for instance, that's always observed on December 25th, because it's tied to our calendar. | ||
| Easter and Passover, however, are both observed based on the lunar calendar, which results in the holidays lining up with different dates every year, according to our Gregorian calendar. | ||
| Easter is always the first Sunday after the first full moon of spring. | ||
| And last, you're following the Eastern Orthodox tradition, which is an issue that's too complicated to get into because Harrison and his caller aren't even touching on that aspect of things. | ||
| I want to get into it now. | ||
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We'll do it later. | |
| I've had a lot to... | ||
| I've been quarreling with the Eastern Orthodox about this for a long time. | ||
| Well, I'm going to leave you to that. | ||
| Passover is based on the Hebrew calendar, which in turn is lunar-based and begins in the middle of the Hebrew month of Nisan and lasts a week. | ||
| Typically, because of how these dates are determined, they'll end up being very close to each other, and very often Easter does fall within the week of Passover. | ||
| This year, Easter is on the last day of Passover, April 4th. | ||
| Which I guess this caller thinks means something nefarious. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's very interesting, according to Harrison Smith. | ||
| This is blood moons all over again. | ||
| Yeah, it's 100% blood moons racist shit. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| The more important aspect of this caller, I think, is how much he's internalized the underlying message of a lot of Alex's rhetoric. | ||
| There are demons out there, sure, but the curses that are plaguing everyone are the result of God letting this stuff happen because you aren't good enough for him to protect. | ||
| This is the messaging of cults, and it's very present in Alex's content with his regular outbursts about how the world deserves to burn for things like allowing abortions. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| If all of us don't act in perfect accord, well, all of us will be killed. | ||
| God's gonna lift his protection, and there you go. | ||
| Here you come. | ||
| It comes, and it's your fault. | ||
| Yeah, God operates under the same laws as, like, a teacher, and if you're a student who didn't bring enough gum for the class, well, everybody gets punished. | ||
| Nobody gets any gum, and you all get sent to hell. | ||
| Everybody knows that that's the way God works. | ||
| Yeah, and conceivably, it's your fault. | ||
| As an individual, because you should have brought more gum to the class. | ||
| Well, but what is bringing gum to the class a metaphor for in this case? | ||
| Basically setting up a religiously ordered society? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Basically setting up a theocracy? | ||
| A theocracy. | ||
| You should have overthrown the teacher, brutally deposed her and murdered her, and then God would have showered you with all the gum in the world, Dan. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little bit worrying when you start to think about the ramifications of internalizing the blame for God's wrath. | ||
| It is a little bit of a problem, yeah. | ||
| Gets you into trouble. | ||
| So Harrison starts talking about how the Pope, you know that globalist Pope? | ||
| I've heard of the globalist Pope. | ||
| He's been in jail for well over a year. | ||
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Yeah, according to expert sources. | |
| But Jordan, what about that Pope that I've seen going around? | ||
| Fake Pope. | ||
| False flag Pope. | ||
| False flag Pope. | ||
| You haven't seen shit. | ||
| Steve Pachanek arrested the Pope like a year ago. | ||
| I guess the fake Pope, somebody pretending to be the Pope recently, I guess in an interview had said that climate change is possibly going to cause another flood. | ||
| Those comments are what they are. | ||
| And Christians took that very simply and calmly as him saying that there would be a regular flood. | ||
| Harrison has decided that the Pope is calling God a liar. | ||
| There we go! | ||
| I knew it! | ||
| He also came out and said that because of climate change, we face threats. | ||
| Of a new flood from God. | ||
| Now, I don't know. | ||
| Maybe I was just a child. | ||
| Maybe I misunderstood. | ||
| But wasn't one of the key aspects of the flood that God promised never to do it again? | ||
| Wasn't that a promise God made? | ||
| And is the Pope calling God a liar? | ||
| Yeah, so the Pope's calling God a liar. | ||
| Now, we'll get into this here in a second, but something I think is really interesting is that Harrison starts thinking about the flood. | ||
| Starts thinking about the flood story and he gets a little bit weird with it. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| The original reason that God flooded the earth was sexual immorality. | ||
| What does the Pope have to say about that? | ||
| I'm pretty sure what he has to say about that is don't worry about it. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Free love! | ||
| So this is interesting to me because the flood in the Bible happens pretty early in the book. | ||
| It happens pretty fast. | ||
| It's in Genesis chapter 6. So I decided I would go back and refresh my memory about the lead up to the flood and see if it happened because people weren't fucking the way that God wanted them to. | ||
| They weren't fucking right! | ||
| So Genesis 1 is the creation of the world, and then chapter 2 is about the making of Adam and Eve. | ||
| Genesis 3 is about the fall of Adam and Eve, having eaten from the tree of knowledge, and in retaliation, God made snakes all slithery. | ||
| That one was guest-written by C.S. Lewis. | ||
| A lot of people don't know that. | ||
| Created painful childbirthing and male-dominated relationship structures, and then he also turned Adam into a farmer. | ||
| Yeah, it was really important to get the male-dominated social structures in... | ||
| Right away. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, right from the jump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| First chapter, men rule everything. | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| And it's gonna hurt when you do it. | ||
| Yeah, and it's gonna hurt. | ||
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It's your fault for eating that fucking apple later. | |
| Genesis 4 deals with Cain killing Abel, and then there's a bunch of names in a family tree. | ||
| Genesis 5 is a bunch more names in how long they lived, bridging the gap from Adam all the way down to Noah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In Genesis 6, God gets a little bit tired of people and decides they shouldn't be living so long. | ||
| In addition to that, he sees that, quote, Don't worry about it, Dan. | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| Here's Genesis 6, verses 5 through 7. Wait, hold on, God, real quick. | ||
| Just quick question, God. | ||
| We're in the planning stages. | ||
| I can see that you're reacting emotionally. | ||
| And, frankly, I think it's a little bit offensive of you to say that they're acting evil all the time. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, come on, man. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Also, what did the birds do? | ||
| Birds are just hanging out! | ||
| Well, I mean, look, if you want to defend the birds, that's your business. | ||
| That's what I want to do. | ||
| I have a long-standing beef with birds. | ||
| Okay, that's fair. | ||
| I'm not going to go to bat for them. | ||
| But I am going to say that I was reading over this, and it struck me how weird this is, that, like... | ||
| You know, it's a big decision to create a race of humans. | ||
| The existence of all things. | ||
| It's very weird that God wouldn't see it coming, that he would regret doing it. | ||
| Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. | ||
| He was a young god at the time! | ||
| We were young, he was young, everybody makes mistakes. | ||
| This is a teenage god. | ||
| That seems something strange to fit into the conception of a god, is a regret over the creation of humans. | ||
| Woof, man! | ||
| Those guys were shit! | ||
| I fucked that one up. | ||
| Whoops! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whoops-a-doodle. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And, by the way, even if, like, God was justified in being disappointed by humans, is extermination a rational solution to that problem? | ||
| After all, it was God that created humans, so wiping them out is really just him trying to cover up his own mistakes? | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Anyway, that brings us to Noah. | ||
| God liked Noah because he was unlike the rest of the people. | ||
| From Genesis 6, 11, quote, Now the earth was corrupt in God's sight and was full of violence. | ||
| God saw how corrupt the earth had become for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways. | ||
| So God said to Noah, I'm going to put an end to all people for the earth is filled with violence because of them. | ||
| Twice in three verses, the complaint of violence is raised in relation to God's decision to kill everyone off with the flood, and weirdly, sexual impropriety isn't brought up at all. | ||
| It is odd that God would care more about violence than sexual impropriety. | ||
| That seems so weird, Dan. | ||
| After Noah builds the ark and saves all the animals, the flood comes and they have to live on that boat that's comically oversized for about a year. | ||
| Noah is 600 years old at that point. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| When the flood ends, Noah gets off the boat and makes an altar to God, which pleases God. | ||
| In appreciation, God says, quote, Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. | ||
| And never again will I destroy all living creatures as I have done. | ||
| This story is fucked up, but the promise that God makes at the end of it doesn't preclude God from causing the kind of flooding that we would see arise from climate change. | ||
| People aren't suggesting that we're going to end up in Waterworld or some shit, just that there are a lot of places that will become uninhabitable, and this will lead to mass displacement and likely a lot of death. | ||
| That's completely compatible with God's promise to never again destroy all living creatures. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Anyway, Harrison Smith is a dumb fuck religious zealot who's trying to repurpose religious stories to suit his extremist agenda. | |
| In this case, his opposition to LGBTQ rights and access to reproductive health care. | ||
| It's a pathetic display, and honestly, it's important to recognize that this is not a news show. | ||
| They aren't even really conspiracy theory shows at this point. | ||
| They're extremist religious programming that's masquerading as something political or about conspiracy in order to make them more interesting and attractive to an audience that would reject. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Constantly, if they were aware that the message they were being delivered and was being pushed to them was religious in nature. | ||
| These guys on this podcast where they're all drunk, if they realized what was behind Alex's rhetoric and his messaging and how it was really largely a religious message, I don't think they would think this was as funny. | ||
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Hey, hey guys, I know we've had a lot of fun, but just to remind you, the earth is only 10,000 years old and your sinfulness is going to get you sent to hell forever. | |
| Anyways, don't abort a baby. | ||
| Hey, I know I'm three quarters of the way through this bottle of Jameson, but I should tell you about conception of angels and demons and how very serious it is and I can see them demons. | ||
| You know, when you read the biblical flood myth, you really start to think, was this written by a dude? | ||
| Because I think it might have been. | ||
| It feels very dude-written. | ||
| It's weird to go back and read it after a long time. | ||
| It had been quite a while since I had read the story directly from the source. | ||
| And it was like, hmm. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe... | ||
| I don't know what it is about my brain, but I can pick out little things that I missed when I was younger. | ||
| Like, oh, that's a weird detail. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Isn't it really kind of strange when you sit down and grapple with... | ||
| Reality and where we are as a society now. | ||
| And you look back and you're like, so are you telling me that I was taught when I was a child that God just irrationally murdered everything? | ||
| And I'm like, and that's the guy I need to worship until I die. | ||
| That part of the story is really underplayed. | ||
| Really not important. | ||
| I do think that there's still some metaphorical value in terms of, you know, I don't know. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Steadfastness and faithfulness. | ||
| Or just educational value in learning about how people explain disasters throughout history. | ||
| Anthropological kind of. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I agree. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But I just think it would be interesting. | ||
| If back in my Bible study groups or Sunday school, we discussed the ramifications of extermination. | ||
| Yeah, and there are so many better flood myths, too. | ||
| There were actual floods. | ||
| Everybody's got a flood myth that was around at the time. | ||
| There were some great ones. | ||
| The only explanation I remember is, like, they're all bad. | ||
| Yep, 100%. | ||
| The people who died were bad. | ||
| 100%, that's what they argued. | ||
| That's not cool. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, from the jump in the Bible, it's like, well, listen. | ||
| Killing everything that's evil is on the table, obviously. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I think that Harrison believes on some level that the motivation behind the flood on God's part was something to the effect of... | ||
| Something related to LGBTQ rights. | ||
| He might be conflating the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. | ||
| No, he weaves that in. | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| And I think the reason that he's doing that is because he doesn't actually remember the flood myth one. | ||
| Maybe not, but he does remember that the rainbow is the sign of God's covenant. | ||
| Everybody does. | ||
| And of course, you look at in Christian mythology, I guess you could call it the rainbow was the sign from God as a promise that he would never... | ||
| Flood the earth again. | ||
| So just think about this, that you have God flooding the earth because of sexual immorality, and then you have the symbol of this. | ||
| The symbol of his promise to never do it again has been co-opted by alternative sexual lifestyles. | ||
| Satanic to its very core, I have to say. | ||
| What? | ||
| That is as interesting as Easter and Passover happening on the same day, Dan. | ||
| Is he trying to say that people have alternative... | ||
| The gay stole the rainbow. | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| That's what he's saying. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But beyond that, I think what he's saying is that people who have quote-unquote alternative lifestyles are immoral. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is. | ||
| He is saying that it is immoral to be lesbian or gay. | ||
| Anything other than straight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| I mean, I guess, you know, just... | ||
| Own that position then, Harrison. | ||
| It seems like that's what you want to say. | ||
| Yeah, no, it seems like that is what you are saying. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's fucked up. | ||
| Just come out and say that you think everybody who's not straight should be put to the sword. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like your god does. | ||
| I think Harrison might be only a little ways away from that. | ||
| Yeah, you're probably not wrong. | ||
| So we get another caller here, and this caller, like... | ||
| I'm still reeling from this. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This is a minute long. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Listen to the mic down for this because this is confusing. | ||
| Okay, I'm with you. | ||
| And with that, we go now to Carlos in Texas. | ||
| Thanks so much for calling in, Carlos. | ||
| You are on the air, sir. | ||
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Yeah, what's up, Harrison? | |
| I want to congratulate you and your newborn child. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
|
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Yeah, no problem, man. | |
| You're going to raise a great info warrior. | ||
| I've been listening since David Knight, and ever since you came out on the show, you've been a great addition, bro. | ||
| They should have been had you on. | ||
| Thank you, man. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
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Yeah, man. | |
| You do a great job. | ||
| I hope you keep it up. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
|
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I want to give a huge shout-out, huge shout-out to the Kavachil Extra Strength Formula. | |
| Here I am sitting in a drive parking lot outside my university with a 5G tower beaming right at me. | ||
| And I'm ready to go for the day, dude. | ||
| I took these pills last night and had a great sleep. | ||
| And I'm ready to go for the day. | ||
| And not only that, I took some more this morning and we're chilling. | ||
| And we're ready to go and start the day, man. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| Oh, that's awesome, man. | ||
| Yeah, no problem. | ||
| Peace, bro. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| That's Dr. Jones' Natural Extra Strength Kava Chill and a beautiful plug from Carlos from Texas. | ||
| The whole call. | ||
| The only reason he called in at all was to plug this product. | ||
| So wait, so you're saying- There wasn't anything else to the call. | ||
| So this guy is just like, man, my friends and I took this InfoWars product, and we were like, fuck yeah. | ||
| I got a good sleep last night. | ||
| Good call, guys. | ||
| I got a good sleep last night. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And then I took some more, and I'm chilling. | ||
| I'm ready to start the day. | ||
| Ready to start the day. | ||
| I'm on campus. | ||
| There's a 5G tower. | ||
| It's not getting in my way. | ||
| Not a problem. | ||
| Not a problem. | ||
| I've got to call Harrison. | ||
| I am chill. | ||
| I'm so chill. | ||
| I'm gonna give Harrison a call. | ||
| Let him know I love David Knight, but listen, the White Nationalist Happy Hour is so better. | ||
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Harrison has to know how chill I am right now. | |
| I'm so fucking chill I gotta call InfoWars! | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| That is nuts. | ||
| That is nuts. | ||
| And it doesn't sound like a plant, because it did sound like that guy was just a little bit high. | ||
| He sounded a bit high. | ||
| He sounded pretty damn high. | ||
| He sounded a bit chill. | ||
| He sounded fairly chill. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I think it could have been a plant, though. | ||
| I think it could have, because it almost felt like he was bailing when he ended the call. | ||
| It felt like maybe there was something else, and he was like, ah, fuck it. | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| Why the fuck would you call into this show and just be like, hey, your product works? | ||
| I guess to let everybody know that it gets you high, man. | ||
| What a waste of time. | ||
| Anyway, we get to this next caller, and actually this caller starts by talking about- It's like calling up your weed dealer and being like, man, this stuff did it. | ||
| Shit's good. | ||
| All right, that was a good call, guys. | ||
| I'm going to get out of here. | ||
| So this next caller, Jordan, I had got into this episode and I'd started listening to it because I thought that this was the episode- Where Harrison interviews Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| And so I wanted to hear that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when this caller started up, he says, I want to talk about Stuart Rhodes' interview. | ||
| So it was like, ah, shit, I got the wrong day. | ||
| However, this caller then proceeds to really freak me out. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's go now to Scott in Florida, who has a comment about our guest from yesterday, Stuart Rhodes, leader of The Oath Keeper. | ||
| He was on for an hour or so, breaking his media silence. | ||
| To talk about some of the fallout from January 6th. | ||
| And a caller, Scott from Florida, has some comments about this. | ||
| Thanks for calling in, Scott. | ||
| Did you enjoy the interview, or do you have some concerns about it? | ||
| What's your take here? | ||
|
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Yes, good morning, Mr. Smith. | |
| Congratulations on your child. | ||
| You're a dad, and that's an awesome responsibility. | ||
| You know, I'd like to say this. | ||
| Stuart Rose is a hero. | ||
| He's a hero and a patriot. | ||
| Leader of the Oath Keepers. | ||
| I pray for him and his family that... | ||
| This evil government does not incarcerate them. | ||
| You know, you should have a panel if you can do a show. | ||
| I don't know if you can do this. | ||
| Where you could get the leaders of the Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Boys, the Three Percenters. | ||
| My favorite group, the John Birch Society. | ||
| I haven't heard from the John Birch Society. | ||
| If ever there was a group to get involved with the takeover of communism, the United States is the John Birch Society, Sovereign Citizens. | ||
| Wes broke out this church. | ||
| Look, let's be honest. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Okay, so this list spiraled. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, we're on the edge of being like, and also, let's get Lex Luthor in there. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Those bad guys from Captain Planet. | ||
| Like, come on. | ||
| The Sinister Six. | ||
| Yeah, the whole Legion of Doom. | ||
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Get them in there. | |
| Get them in there. | ||
| Come on, buddy. | ||
| Let's just go for all evil everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I mean, like... | ||
| I get the idea of, like, let's have a roundtable powwow with Stuart Rhodes, maybe someone from the Power Boys. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| That seems like, okay, this is where your show is at now. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You add the John Birch Society and it's like, oh, you're hearkening back to your roots. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Like the Westboro Baptist Church. | ||
|
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No. | |
| What? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Sovereign citizens. | ||
| Jesus, dude. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| They don't even have a leader by rules! | ||
| Yeah, what are we doing? | ||
| This is very weird. | ||
| When he said the Westboro Baptist Church. | ||
| That was when, like, my, like, uh-oh, uh-oh, what's going on here? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| And this caller, this was only the beginning of the trouble with him. | ||
| That really was the beginning of the trouble with him. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So this guy is going to put forth the theory, or is the position, that January 6th was the beginning of the second American Revolution. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I hate to mic down you twice in such short order. | ||
| Okay, oh, boy, this is fast. | ||
| You're going to scream at this. | ||
|
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January 6, 2021 is going to go into American history. | |
| It's the beginning of the second American Revolution. | ||
| It's going to be the pinnacle, the beginning of it, because this is not over, Mr. Smith. | ||
| The American people are being persecuted, and they're being persecuted by a Zionist-occupied government. | ||
| And let me relate what that means. | ||
| When you've got an FBI that interrogates, threatens people, like you were saying yesterday, Because they don't like their opinions. | ||
| They don't like their thought processes. | ||
| This smacks of a Zionist-occupied government. | ||
| What I mean by that, I don't want to be vague. | ||
| I'm talking specifically about a government that is controlled by AIPAC, American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a Federal Reserve that is the Rothschild Bank. | ||
| You just mentioned a moment ago Linda Rothschild. | ||
| That doesn't surprise me, talking about a capitalist world order. | ||
| International Jewry is at stake here, is involved here, and I know what you said with me last time. | ||
| Well, it's not Jews. | ||
| I'm not talking about average Jews. | ||
| I'm talking about international Jews. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| This is off the rails. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I feel like when Rob Dew's hosting, he knows to hang up on people who say Zionist-occupied government. | ||
| I'm talking about a Zionist-occupied government, and let me be clear on what that means. | ||
| Sir? | ||
| I believe the moment you talk about a Zionist occupied government, you have been clear on what that means. | ||
| Click. | ||
| Yes. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Here at InfoWars, our branding is supposed to be that we're against that kind of stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In order to support that kind of stuff, we have to pretend to be against it. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| International Jewry, my friend. | ||
| I have never heard that in a positive way. | ||
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Have you ever heard, like, it's national, let's celebrate. | |
| Celebrate the International Jewry Day. | ||
| No! | ||
| What was the name of that book that Ford put out during World War II? | ||
|
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Is it The International Jew? | ||
| This is Nazi shit. | ||
| That is straight up Nazi shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I would argue, buddy. | ||
| Just, I mean, and look, I'm going to go out on a limb here, and I'm going to say that he's very mad at the FBI for choosing to go after people who don't share his opinions now. | ||
| I get the feeling that he was a big fan of J. Edgar Hoover's FBI. | ||
| You know, I think he was probably a fan of the FBI murdering people who would say things like Black Lives Matter and the like. | ||
| Or when the Tide was so anti-communist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trying to root out communist sympathizers everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, I'm willing to bet there would be a slightly different tone. | ||
| Now, the thing is that this dude is fucking overt. | ||
| He doesn't give a shit. | ||
| He's putting it all out there. | ||
| He's talking about how it's the international Jews, not your regular everyday Jews. | ||
| Well, because he's so comfortable floating all this stuff, he kind of makes clear something that we already know. | ||
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When Mr. Jones says globalist, I know exactly what he means. | |
| I'm not pinning it on him. | ||
| I'll say it. | ||
| In my opinion, when I hear the word globalist, I think of the Rothschilds. | ||
| I think of the Bronson family. | ||
| I think of a cabal of international Jewry that is pushing forward this new world order, which I call the Jew world order. | ||
| And I hate what's... | ||
| Don't laugh at that. | ||
| He laughed at that. | ||
| Harrison laughed at this guy saying the Jew world order. | ||
| Harrison is straight up a Nazi. | ||
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This is outrageous. | |
| Harrison's a Nazi. | ||
| This is outrageous. | ||
| That's a real Nazi. | ||
| How is this happening on air? | ||
| That is a Nazi broadcast. | ||
| That's Nazis doing Nazi shit. | ||
| And he's giving up the game a little bit. | ||
| Whenever I hear Alex say globalists, I know what he's talking about. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if that made me... | ||
| I have a weird reaction to that because part of that made me feel like... | ||
| Well, good for you, buddy. | ||
| You understand what he's saying. | ||
| It's nice that he at least can read between the lines. | ||
| I don't know if many people can do that. | ||
| I think it's bad that he can and does and believes that it's okay to do that. | ||
| Well, the experience that I had was thinking, no, duh. | ||
| But I'm so... | ||
| Dull or numb to the fact that, like, that is the code. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The characterization that Alex uses, the globalist, relies so much on these archaic forms of anti-Semitic tropes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And, like, I get that, and I know that, and so it doesn't surprise me. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| Although it is a little bit shocking to hear somebody just be like, come on, let's talk honestly. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It is weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| It's strange because it does indicate that, I mean, this guy isn't the only person in the audience who has a cognizant... | ||
| Sort of self-awareness that that's what he thinks Alex is talking about. | ||
| Well, yeah, obviously. | ||
| Everybody gets it. | ||
| Everybody gets it. | ||
| Dude, why do you think we use the code word? | ||
| So we don't sound like this. | ||
| So we don't do it on the air! | ||
| So we don't sound like this. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| God damn it, dude. | ||
| So this guy, he has some reading materials that he might want to promote to the audience, and Harrison lets him. | ||
| Is he a Pez dispenser? | ||
|
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If your listeners are confused and frightened and want some sanity on what's going on, please, God, tell me what's going on. | |
| Read a book called The Protocol. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| That's a fortune. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And you've made this point before, Scott, and I know you've also mentioned that... | ||
| You've talked to Scott before? | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
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By the way, I am Jewish. | |
| I am Jewish. | ||
| That sounds like identity politics to me. | ||
| Great, great. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I really don't care. | ||
| It does not make any of the things you're saying any better. | ||
| Nah, nah, nah. | ||
| Nope, don't care. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, I was also taken aback by that, like, oh, these guys know each other. | ||
| Yeah, that's real. | ||
| That makes me even more uncomfortable where you're like, oh, yeah, oh, no, no, it's this guy. | ||
| Of course I'm going to let him say that he hates all Jews. | ||
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Duh. | |
| Of course I'm going to let him promote the protocols on my fucking show. | ||
| You've made this point before. | ||
| Hang up on this guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Jesus. | ||
| You know what point he's gonna make. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Anyway, Harrison, not one to shy away. | ||
| How is it that people are bitching about banning books and the protocol still isn't banned? | ||
| Yeah, Dr. Seuss, far more dangerous than that. | ||
| Oh, so angry! | ||
| So Harrison doesn't really, like, push back too much on this guy. | ||
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I am too much. | |
| Okay, yeah, let me just say, you know, it's interesting that you bring it up with Stuart Rhodes, because actually one of the things I was going to mention yesterday that I didn't get to with Stuart Rhodes is the fact that the organizations who are actually advising the FBI on what to do, I mean, you know, essentially you have the FBI and you would think that they would be answerable only to politicians, they would be taking directives from civilian oversight. | ||
| But in reality, what you see, and there's stories going back all the way to 2017, is that it's organizations like the ADL and the SPLC that are actually directing the FBI. | ||
| Does that sound true to you, Harrison? | ||
| I'm not calling the ADL and SPLC Jewish organizations. | ||
| They're calling themselves that, right? | ||
| So you have an organization that is of a certain ideology that is not claiming to be for everybody. | ||
| It's the Anti-Defamation League. | ||
| It's a Jewish organization. | ||
| And yet they're the ones who are directing... | ||
| Now, there is a weird sort of disconnect in the American psyche where it's like, how do we not see that that's weird and wrong? | ||
| That it's a private organization that I consider a hate group that has articles about me calling me an anti-Semite, calling me a homophobe, calling me a racist, calling me all sorts of horrible things that are completely untrue and totally baseless. | ||
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Yeah, that's a little tough. | |
| Completely basic. | ||
| What did they do? | ||
| Listen to the previous ten minutes? | ||
| How would they have known any of these things to claim if they had not listened to me speak for the previous ten minutes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wowzers. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| When you have a caller who's insinuating that International Jewry is a cabal that's trying to push the Jew world order, and if anybody in the audience is afraid, they should just read the protocols of the elders of Zion. | ||
| And then, if you then respond with, hey, you know, the SPLC and ADL are Jewish organizations and they run our FBI and they're a hate group that runs our FBI. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, buddy, you are signing off on what this guy is saying. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You are not disagreeing with him. | ||
| This isn't a debate. | ||
| This isn't an airing of alternative ideas that you have. | ||
| You guys are just both fucking... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Out there. | ||
| It is interesting, the difference in reaction between, because I feel, like, now that they're all just letting it out, just like, hey, we're Nazis as fuck. | ||
| How are you guys doing? | ||
| Well, I'm a Nazi, you're a Nazi. | ||
| Let's have a great old conversation about Nazi shit. | ||
| Like, I can feel my guard being lowered a little bit, because I'm not like, I'm not like, what is this supposed to mean? | ||
| In what way are they trying to hide? | ||
| In what way are they trying to lie? | ||
| However, I have let my guard down there and put it up to fight, because I would like to fight them. | ||
| The moment you're just like, hey, we love being Nazis, I'm like, ah, then you're fair game! | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's brutal! | ||
| I hate these guys! | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| So Harrison does have one rebuttal that I would say he gives, and it's just to protect the business. | ||
| It's just to protect the game. | ||
| He has to disagree that globalist means international Jewish person. | ||
| Sure, but he will admit that the ADL, the SPLC, and the FBI, as well as the government... | ||
| He'll not only admit that, he will bring that to the conversation. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| And so I do disagree with you there, where it's like, oh, globalist is just a code word. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's a certain thing. | ||
| It's a very particular thing that... | ||
| You can subscribe to whatever religion you are, and it doesn't mean you subscribe to it if you're Jewish. | ||
| So I do disagree with you. | ||
| You know, on certain points. | ||
| That's not even what that guy was saying. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| He's responding to a false point in order to try and protect the Infowars use of Globalist as a dog whistle. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| You're just a Nazi, Harrison. | ||
| Yeah, it's unfortunate for you. | ||
| Yeah, for you. | ||
| And for the existence of the rest of us. | ||
| And it's unfortunate for him because, like, I don't listen to his show much. | ||
| And then I dip in and there's this. | ||
| It's like, I think you are going to be a lot of my media diet in the future. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Just straight up Nazi shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Goddamn. | ||
| So, I got through that call and listened to a little bit more, and I just started to get bored. | ||
| I was like, I am so overwhelmed by that call. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And how overt and offensive it was. | ||
| And I'm like, nothing's gonna be worse than that. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| I can't imagine that it would be worse than that. | ||
| Next caller! | ||
| And that caller had said that the Stuart Rhodes interview that I was looking for was on the other day. | ||
| So I turned this episode off and went over to the Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| You didn't wait to see if somebody called in and said the Holocaust didn't happen and that Jews are also responsible for all the problems in the world? | ||
| I don't think there was a caller. | ||
| That might have been a guest. | ||
| That could have been Harrison. | ||
| So I went to the interview with Stuart Rhodes because there was some news about him recently related to the 6th. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| That he was a super cool dude and that everybody loves him. | ||
| Very cool. | ||
| And he never wanted any violence at all. | ||
| I wanted to check in on his response to it. | ||
| And I thought it was interesting that it's on the American Journal. | ||
| But that's because Alex is deep in the grocery store. | ||
| So here we find the introduction to Stewart's interview, and Harrison has some bad ideas. | ||
| This is also, I should say, this is from March 9th. | ||
| Again, you have to begrudgingly admire the ability of the mainstream media and the corrupt establishment, their ability to manipulate the minds of the American people, especially when it comes to an event like January 6th, 2021. | ||
| It was, of course, as more information's coming out, we know, essentially an inside job. | ||
| The same way that 9-11 was an inside job, 1-6 was an inside job. | ||
| Flashback to... | ||
| The Patriots have taken the Capitol. | ||
| If anyone wants to listen to our coverage of January 6th, Harrison's tone was very different on that actual day. | ||
| The Patriots have taken the Capitol. | ||
| No, this is him doing the, I don't know why the SPLC thinks we're racist. | ||
| Take with a straight face. | ||
| Like, I don't really believe any sincerity here. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Fuck Harrison. | ||
| So, he gets talking about this January 6th protest, and he says something that is categorically not true. | ||
| What was occurring there was the largest protest, I believe, in American history. | ||
| The most number of people ever to gather in a single place for a political... | ||
| movement, probably upwards of a million if I had to guess. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| I believe is doing a heavy lifting job in that sense. | ||
| I believe that that was the biggest, well. | ||
| Quite a bit. | ||
| So Stewart comes in and here's what he has to say about all these people who are talking a bunch of noise about how it was an insurrection. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And they're going for your head, man. | ||
| I mean, what has it been like for you? | ||
| Well, it's been like something out of Orwell's 1984. | ||
| You know, it's thought crime and face crime and all the things that we've seen in the past that's been done to others is now being done, not just to me, but anybody else who's in DC. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| As you were saying earlier, there were no weapons. | ||
| No one brought guns. | ||
| What kind of an insurrection is that? | ||
| You know, frankly, it's an insult to the competence of the Americans. | ||
| No one brought guns? | ||
| Stewart? | ||
| Stewart? | ||
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That was some kind of planned insurrection. | |
| So Stuart Rhodes is coming on the show to try to get out in front of some pretty damning information that's just been released. | ||
| It's related to the U.S.'s case against Thomas Caldwell, an oath-keeper who was arrested related to the storming of the Capitol. | ||
| Caldwell had made a motion to reconsider his detention, and this document that was filed in the evening of March 8th was a response to that motion. | ||
| There's some interesting bits in here. | ||
| The first thing that's important to remember is that the charge this guy is facing is conspiracy to, quote, stop delay and hinder Congress's certification of the Electoral College vote. | ||
| That's key because the conspiracy wasn't to storm the building. | ||
| The storming of the building was, quote, an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy, regardless of when they formed the intent to take these actions. | ||
| Yeah, because he did that. | ||
| The reason it should scare him is that this filing also reveals that the government is in possession of logs from a signal chat titled, quote, DCOption. | ||
| January 6th, 21, which was previously undisclosed. | ||
| Caldwell himself has not been proven to have been in that chat, but Jessica Watkins, as well as another unnamed person who were both Oath Keepers who were arrested with Caldwell were in there. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| And Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| Who would have guessed that the people who believe that the government is surveilling them at all times trying to constantly implant them with computer chips to track them would have absolutely no idea that the government could actually read these fucking conversations. | ||
| These chat logs clearly show that Stuart Rhodes was in contact with multiple people associated with the Oath Keepers who stormed the Capitol and also establishes fairly well that they were all involved in a plan to mess with the certification of the Electoral College. | ||
| Based on the publicly available evidence, it looks like Stewart could get rolled up in this conspiracy charge should the government want to pursue that. | ||
| The full extent of the chats aren't disclosed, but Stewart did tell the group, Yeah, they didn't have weapons in the Capitol because we were keeping them outside of the Capitol to use on people who tried to escape the Capitol, dummies! | ||
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Duh! | |
| Duh! | ||
| How many people either in the militia or not who are still supportive of our efforts to save the republic have a boat on a trailer that could handle a Potomac crossing? | ||
| If we had someone standing by at a dock ramp, we could have our quick response team with the heavy weapons standing by, quickly load them and ferry them across the river to our waiting arms. | ||
| He then sent maps to people alleged to have been part of his response team. | ||
| Well, that doesn't sound good. | ||
| I wonder, and to be clear, I'm just spitballing here. | ||
| I'm not being sarcastic or facetious at all. | ||
| I'm just curious. | ||
| I wonder if this dude got the idea to use the Potomac from listening to Alex's show. | ||
| On the December 31st episode of Alex's show, just days before Caldwell tried to get this boat planned together, Alex had a caller on his show who suggested this. | ||
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Just wanted to touch bases with you with the March on D.C. or the occupation of D.C. I think that you, I'm going to talk to all the Cajun Navy and all these people that did boat parades for the past three to four months. | |
| We need to have every single one of those people. | ||
| Plug up the Potomac. | ||
| That is a genius idea. | ||
| And can you get boats on the Potomac? | ||
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Well, I can set out some Facebook posts and stuff. | |
| No, what I'm asking you is I don't see a lot of boats on the Potomac. | ||
| I mean, boats can get on the Potomac, can't they? | ||
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Yeah, well, I'm sure they can, especially like the Cajun Navy. | |
| When the hurricanes come in, they have to go in there and help get people out. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Well, we need to see the Cajun Navy come in and then get on the ground with us, but I totally agree. | ||
| We need to see... | ||
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Well, because I'm looking at it, if they tie up those boats, even if they try to shut down those bridges, and that's a free... | |
| You can get into... | ||
| I mean, that's a public area. | ||
| Tie up those boats. | ||
| If they try to shut down those bridges, just imagine the Infowar Army crossing... | ||
| And by the way, let me tell you what this is about. | ||
| It's about global government. | ||
| It's about lockdowns. | ||
| It's about control. | ||
| That's what the whole... | ||
| COVID hoax is about. | ||
| Alex changes the subject there a little bit. | ||
| It's not quite the same thing. | ||
| This caller is talking about clogging the river with the boats, whereas Caldwell wanted to use them to ferry weapons, but there are some similarities in terms of what's being suggested. | ||
| Clearly, this caller doesn't mean that the entire river should be clogged up, but that these boats should tie together and block the area off so Infowars types could cross the river in the event that the bridges were closed. | ||
| There's thematic similarities to what Caldwell was trying to achieve, but it's probably not connected in any way. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| I just thought it was really interesting. | ||
| That is a really good coincidence. | ||
| That it was just a couple days before. | ||
| And maybe this is just kind of how these folks' minds work. | ||
| You know, parallel thinking in terms of like... | ||
| Well, all right, we could use the river. | ||
| Yeah, it does seem like these are plans that they cobbled together from half-remembered war movies. | ||
| This sounds something like I remember from Bridge on the River Kwai. | ||
| We're going to go into the Potomac, I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, the point here is that Stuart Rhodes is going to have a really interesting year. | ||
| And it also makes a whole lot more sense why he was trying to promote Jessica Watkins' legal defense fund after the 6th. | ||
| Yeah, that does make sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Stuart, he has a bit of a lie here about the Signal messages that he's been sending. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And the only thing they've got is a message from me posted on our operational chat on Signal saying, anybody who's not on a PSD, come to the northeast corner of the Capitol. | ||
| That's where I was standing. | ||
| Rendezvous there. | ||
| And my intent was to make sure... | ||
| But our guys stayed out of trouble. | ||
| This is a lie. | ||
| At 1.38 on January 6th, Stewart posted in that chat, quote, All I see Trump doing is complaining. | ||
| I see no intent by him to do anything. | ||
| So the Patriots are taking it into their own hands. | ||
| They've had enough. | ||
| Later, Stewart sent a message to regroup on the south side of the Capitol, not the northeast side, as he's saying here on the show. | ||
| At 2.41, Stewart posted a photo of the southeast side of the Capitol, captioned, quote, south side of U.S. Capitol, patriots pounding on doors. | ||
| By that point, multiple people in the chat had entered the U.S. Capitol. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| We'll see how this shakes out and everything, but Stewart is totally full of shit here. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| That's fucked. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That is fucked. | ||
| It's interesting because Stuart has a little bit of a, eh, what are you going to do kind of defense? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What other defense do you have? | ||
| You've been caught red-handed. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And let me give you something to think about while you're listening to this. | ||
| Assume he's telling the truth. | ||
| I will do my best. | ||
| Now ask yourself if he's telling the truth, is this okay? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because it's not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we had a situation with North Carolina, sadly. | ||
| Our North Carolina chat had already gone rogue, and it declared on a chat that I wasn't even on, they declared to other guys in North Carolina that in D.C. on January the 6th, they were not going to have anything to do with National or take part in anything that National was doing. | ||
| They were going to do their own thing. | ||
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And they had posted that on December 31st. | |
| So there's that. | ||
| Right, so... | ||
| North Carolina's gone rogue. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, look, guys. | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| So I built this organization entirely around right-wing violence. | ||
| And a super strong distrust of centralization. | ||
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Yep, yep. | |
| And then, strangely enough, one chapter went rogue and decided that I had no control over them. | ||
| One chapter essentially declared states' rights. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| I've created these heavily armed mini-armies. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, they don't want to cooperate with me. | ||
| Oh, that's trouble. | ||
| It turns out I accidentally created warlords. | ||
| My bad, guys. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| I created roving bands of warlords. | ||
| Really a huge mistake on my part. | ||
| Oops. | ||
| Exactly one of the reasons why people don't like what you do. | ||
| People have been pointing out stuff like this. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So you guys were talking about the warlord problem. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Now I see what you were talking about. | ||
| Oh, you were saying that if I create this... | ||
| Loosely connected group of armies? | ||
| What if them might go rogue? | ||
| Oh, crazy. | ||
| You know what's strange about lionizing a leaderless resistance? | ||
| It seems that they don't want to follow my leadership for some reason. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if this is true, and let's say that the North Carolina crew was responsible for everything, I still think Stuart should get sued. | ||
| Yeah, I think you still created the whole shebang. | ||
| You don't just get to say, like, whoops, my group went rogue. | ||
| Hey, no, no, no. | ||
| Look, it happens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I'm off the hook because they went rogue, see? | ||
| No accountability there. | ||
| In this next clip, Stuart Miss represents what the government's argument is. | ||
| Keep in mind that the charge that this Oathkeeper is facing is related to conspiracy to obstruct and interfere with the Congress's electoral vote. | ||
| They're trying to say that because we said the election was stolen. | ||
| Here's what's very dangerous about this. | ||
| Anyone who said the election was stolen. | ||
| And then encourage people to go to D.C. And then, like we did, encourage Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act. | ||
| And we said, if he does, we're willing to serve as the militia if he calls us into service, which is a perfectly constitutional and legal act by the president. | ||
| If he declares an insurrection and calls us up under federal law as the militia to call us into service, he has every right and authority to do so. | ||
| They're trying to make that a crime. | ||
| They're trying to allege that. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not at all what they're doing. | ||
| If so, you'd already be in prison. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's... | ||
| Anybody could say, come to D.C. Anybody could say, come be a part of this protest. | ||
| You can't conspire to interfere with Congress's business. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| Well, you actually can. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| As long as you don't do anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can conspire unless you make an overt act towards furtherance of the conspiracy. | ||
| See, here's what my defense would be. | ||
| My defense would be it was a non-violent protest. | ||
| Now, the problem with that defense is that it wasn't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that kind of changes your, yeah. | ||
| You know, like, if nothing had happened and they were levying this charge to stop the vote, you could have been like, see, nothing happened. | ||
| We didn't do anything. | ||
| We didn't go anywhere. | ||
| It was just a protest. | ||
| Let's say no one breached the Capitol. | ||
| No one breached the Capitol! | ||
| If you had a protest outside. | ||
| Just a regular old protest. | ||
| Then nothing would be happening. | ||
| Nothing would happen! | ||
| No. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| The problem is what happened after the thing. | ||
| Yeah, because Congress' ability to carry out the vote wouldn't have been impeded. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| So it wouldn't have been a crime. | ||
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Right. | |
| It would have been just a regular protest. | ||
| If overt acts weren't taken to further the conspiracy, the conspiracy wouldn't be prosecuted. | ||
| Yeah, I think they're mistaking that they think we're criminalizing the first part, where you're like, hey, We don't like this thing. | ||
| Let's all get together and be like, no! | ||
| Whenever our problem was the second part when they were like, let's go kill people! | ||
| That was my problem with it. | ||
| I don't like the combination of it, but it's the second part that's a legal problem. | ||
| Yeah, that's the one that's coming back to bite you in the ass. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it turns out that because of what's happening and the prosecution of these people for storming the Capitol and all this, turns out there's no more Constitution. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| We are now living in a post-Constitution America. | ||
| And every act they take just makes that clearer and clearer to more Americans. | ||
| You are not going to get justice at the hands of this so-called Justice Department, as you call it the Injustice Department. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Get them. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, this is one of those things that's so fucking dramatic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is, again, just the drama nonsense of these people. | ||
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Wham, wham, wham. | |
| We're in a post-Constitution America. | ||
| Well, hey, I mean, if you're in a post-constitution America, guess what? | ||
| You don't have the right to own guns. | ||
| So we can take those real quick. | ||
| I got bad news. | ||
| Bummer. | ||
| You're going to have to quarter some soldiers. | ||
| We're living in a post-constitution. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| Grow up. | ||
| And the thing that makes it even more silly. | ||
| Cosplaying cowards. | ||
| Well, the thing that makes it even more silly is that Harrison agrees with him that we're living in a post-constitution America. | ||
| And then he plays a clip of Marjorie Taylor Greene talking about defending the Second Amendment. | ||
| Today, Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Congresswoman, rose to speak against H.R. 8, which is a national gun registration, and H.R. 1446, which is a permanent firearm waiting list. | ||
| So the Democrats are coming after our constitutionally guaranteed rights, one after the other, and there's no sense of them slowing down, only increasing their speed. | ||
| They're not constitutionally protected anymore, according to you. | ||
| There's no constitution. | ||
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We're post-constitution. | |
| What are you talking about? | ||
| You guys gotta adjust your fucking rhetoric. | ||
| If you're gonna say we're living in a post-constitutional America, don't fucking talk to me about the Constitution, then. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| Fuck your Second Amendment if it's post-constitution. | ||
| None of you have fucking read it to begin with! | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| And that's all good and well, but, like, okay. | ||
| I mean, if it's, like, it's Thunderdome, then. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, come fucking, let's do this then. | ||
| If you really sincerely believe... | ||
| Mad Max me, let's go! | ||
| If you sincerely believe that the Constitution no longer applies, we're in a post-Constitution America, and you're not just saying that to be a dramatic weirdo, then it should implicate a whole bunch of your other beliefs. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| You should no longer be talking about protecting the Second Amendment because if there is no Constitution, there's no amendments to the Constitution. | ||
| No, no, there's only the amendments. | ||
| I guess you probably should stop complaining about free speech. | ||
| Well, don't worry about that too much. | ||
| Because that's not guaranteed. | ||
| Nope, not anymore. | ||
| If it's the post-constitution of America. | ||
| No, and if you're going to say post-constitutional America, then essentially what you're saying is... | ||
| If we want the Constitution back, we're going to have to overthrow the fucking United States government. | ||
| Yes, and write a new one or whatever. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or reestablish the old one. | ||
| But either way, ultimately, you are saying we need to overthrow the United States government. | ||
| And the way we're going to do that, according to Stewart, is purging the GOP. | ||
| See, there we go. | ||
| It's disgusting to watch all these so-called Republican leaders throw everyone at the Capitol under the bus, condemn them all. | ||
| And agree with the Democrats that this was an insurrection and all this nonsense. | ||
| We have got to purge the Republican Party, and it has to start at the bottom up. | ||
| You've got to purge out all the rhinos, all the cowards or traitors that dominate the GOP. | ||
| It is full, infested with both of those, both traitors and cowards. | ||
| You've got to purge them out and put real patriots in there, like Mrs. Green. | ||
| You gotta get more of that. | ||
| You gotta get more Marjorie Taylor Greene's in there. | ||
| Do not. | ||
| Do not. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| For one second. | ||
| Do not, Stuart Rhodes, for one second, say that someone else is a coward. | ||
| For one second. | ||
| One. | ||
| You're going on this show lying about the shit that you did on the 6th. | ||
| If you were not a coward, Stuart fucking coward-ass Rhodes, then you would have turned yourself in, you would have claimed that this whole thing is bullshit, and you would have said, I'm gonna stand and fight these fucking charges because I'm not a coward. | ||
| And instead, you went on a radio show, not even a good one, you went on a shitty radio show to say, ooh, I didn't do any... | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| They're going to blame me for stuff that I had nothing to do with. | ||
| I'm not involved in the OVC. | ||
| They went rogue. | ||
| The North Carolina guys went rogue. | ||
| We need to get rid of cowards and traitors because the North Carolina guys went rogue. | ||
| The North Carolina guys went rogue and did all the things that we constantly talk about doing. | ||
| No one is a bigger coward. | ||
| Than Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| That fucking coward. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Marco Rubio. | ||
| Oh, that's fair. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Mainline Republicans. | ||
| Need to vote them out and get more Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| Oh, we need to get rid of cowards. | ||
| Now, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| The federal government did. | ||
| I didn't do anything. | ||
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Oh, no, no, no. | |
| I will never take responsibility for any of my actions. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Stuart also insinuates that even if that goes through, it's not going to really work, but it might help. | ||
| What a fucking asshole. | ||
| Still thinks that violence probably is going to happen. | ||
| What an asshole. | ||
| So, we get towards the end of this interview, and Harrison gives us, you know, basically, like, what this is mostly, really, actually about. | ||
| I want you to tell us, Stuart, what, like, somebody who's listening right now, they see what's going on, and they're thinking, what do I do as soon as this program's over? | ||
| What do I do? | ||
| Of course, you go to Infowarsstore.com, you go to Oathkeepers.org, but what can they do? | ||
| Who do they call? | ||
| Ghostbusters. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Alright. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it's more or less a 40-minute infomercial for Stuart Rhodes feigning ignorance and innocence, and then also trying to get money. | ||
| Why not just tell Stuart to take some of that fucking chill, man? | ||
| If you're going to be dramatic about the post-constitutional America, we got some products that will chill you the fuck down, protect you from 5G, and get you ready for your day. | ||
| It appears that it works. | ||
| It seemed to get that dude pretty high. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I have trouble sleeping sometimes. | ||
| Maybe I should... | ||
| I mean, no, I will not. | ||
| I want to make this clear. | ||
| I have gotten this question a couple times, especially recently. | ||
| People have asked, have I ever tried Alex's product? | ||
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Oh, good God, no. | |
| Fuck no. | ||
| And we haven't addressed this in a while. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nor would I ever. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Other people do those videos. | ||
| You can watch them. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| They're going to be better than us. | ||
| We're just going to be sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're going to be like, oh, this is disgusting. | ||
| Why would anybody do this to themselves? | ||
| And then we'd be realizing that we were doing it. | ||
| And then we'd get so sad. | ||
| So we come to the end of this, and one of the things that I really am pretty insistent on in my own head is I'm going to be paying more attention to Harrison. | ||
| This dude is a real fucking problem. | ||
| This dude's a Nazi Nazi. | ||
| The kind of thing that is apparently acceptable conversation on his show is further than most of the time that you see on Alex's show. | ||
| It's outrageous, the kind of things that you'll hear on here. | ||
| I did not think I would get to this point, but Harrison brought me here a lot faster than I was expecting. | ||
| I miss David Knight! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Boring as hell. | ||
| Boring, but he wasn't a... | ||
| But he knew how to walk that line. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And honestly, I think that, you know, not to be too explicit about my feelings about this, I honestly think that this is revealing too much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that this is actually incredibly bad strategy on their part. | ||
| I think that this is bad for Infowars, and as such, it appears to be a head poking up, and I'm going to play whack-a-mole with it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I'm going to pay more attention to him, because I think it's a... | ||
| soft exposed underbelly and a fucking idiot who doesn't know how to play the game that Alex and Owen Troyer clearly play better where they can shut this stuff down. | ||
| They can give the appearance of signaling to these white nationalists and anti-semites. | ||
| Listen, I love your call, but this isn't really the topic that we're going on right now. | ||
| Click. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Harrison clearly either doesn't have the desire or the ability or the smoothness to be able to have all that in the package of his presentation. | ||
| And I think that through that, we'll probably see a lot of really... | ||
| Really fucked up stuff. | ||
| Yeah, we... | ||
| I used to joke about it that one of the reasons that it was edifying to watch Alex Jones, one of the reasons that we do this show is because Alex was the weakest link in the propaganda chain. | ||
| And now Harrison is the weakest link of the wars. | ||
| Harrison is way weaker than... | ||
| Harrison's not even a link. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Harrison's a fucking flower, a dandelion people twirled into a circle. | ||
| So we'll check back in on him from time to time. | ||
| I'm going to be trying to pay attention and keep up with him. | ||
| As well as Alex. | ||
| Monday, hopefully Alex will be back from his grocery store adventure. | ||
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And we'll have an Alex Jones episode. | |
| That's something that's really funny. | ||
| Sorry, sorry guys. | ||
| We were going to do an Alex episode, but he was at the grocery store. | ||
| Just to cleanse our palates after this, we have Stuart Rhodes lying his ass off. | ||
| Harrison fielding calls from outright anti-Semite Nazi types. | ||
| And all the meanwhile, Alex. | ||
| Because the state is so frickin' awesome! | ||
| Florida is awesome! | ||
| Yeah, Florida! | ||
| And seed to table, the Great Oak Farms! | ||
| Give it up for all the great crew here, folks! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Everybody's shopping in this place. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| Alex flew to Florida for three claps. | ||
| Everybody be shopping. | ||
| Everybody be shopping. | ||
| Hey, this seems like a great way to take a vacation while still pretending to work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And go pay Roger a visit, I'm sure. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Anyway, we'll be back on Monday. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yes, we are also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Go to bed, Jordan. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook. | ||
| If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Daryl Rundis. | ||
| I am the prince of the pan flute. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |