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March 19, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
01:31:09
#541: March 17-18, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan continue their observation of Alex Jones. In this installment, Alex experiences the highest highs and lowest lows on the same show, decides to turn on Trump (again), and endangers the safety of his listeners in a more direct way than usual.

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a
alex jones
20:05
d
dan friesen
43:46
j
jordan holmes
21:00
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ezra levant
00:11
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge.
unidentified
I'm Dan and Jordan.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan!
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan!
Jordan.
Quick question for you.
unidentified
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
I got an anti-bright spot.
jordan holmes
Oh, you got an anti-bright spot?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Sort of a dark spot, or at least like, you know, in the cheers and jeers parlance.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
dan friesen
This is a jeer.
jordan holmes
This is a jeer.
dan friesen
But it's also kind of a bright spot because it's me expressing some of my drives towards novelty and what have you.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I had to make a run over to the CVS, and I went inside, and...
jordan holmes
Whoa, is this buzz marketing for CVS?
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
Remember, this is jeers.
I saw a new beverage product there.
It was Coca-Cola with coffee.
jordan holmes
No.
Uh-uh.
No.
dan friesen
That was my first instinct.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Here's my second instinct.
Double no.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I doubled down, and I got it.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course you did.
dan friesen
I was very excited.
jordan holmes
Of course you did.
dan friesen
It is repulsive.
jordan holmes
How could you possibly think that's a good idea?
I don't know.
dan friesen
I've been surprised by things in the past.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
You know, that black cherry coffee seltzer is really good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is really good.
dan friesen
Yeah, this one is not.
This Coke is disgusting.
jordan holmes
No, yeah, that's the worst thing I've ever heard anyone do to coffee.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cheers!
jordan holmes
Did you try putting some cream in there?
dan friesen
I was thinking about it.
No, and actually, I should be perfectly honest.
I bought three varieties of it.
Because they had single cans.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So I bought the regular, the caramel, and the vanilla.
I haven't tried the other two.
jordan holmes
Wait, they were all three coffee, though?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Coffee with...
dan friesen
It's a new line of Coke things.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
These monsters!
dan friesen
I got all three.
jordan holmes
Have we not enough problems already, Dan?
dan friesen
I got all three because I was like, what if they're amazing?
And now I've tried one, and I'm going to stare at the other two for a while.
I'm not excited to drink those.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, that could be a bonus episode.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
jordan holmes
We could do that.
dan friesen
Hear me be miserable drinking Coke?
jordan holmes
That wouldn't bother me too much.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is that on Saturday, I will be finishing my Final Fantasy VII Riff Make project.
dan friesen
Fun!
jordan holmes
It will be done.
I couldn't do it last night, or Wednesday night.
So I'm going to do a marathon on Saturday.
I'm almost at the end of the game.
I don't know how long it's going to take.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But it's going to start at 11, and it's just going to go until I finish the game.
dan friesen
And the Wonks can join you over on your Twitch channel.
jordan holmes
You betcha.
You bet.
dan friesen
JB Home something or other.
jordan holmes
3209.
That's it.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it should be fun.
Yeah.
I'm not going to do that.
jordan holmes
You're not going to stop by.
No, no, no.
Please, let's not get any...
No, like, maybe there's special guests.
No.
dan friesen
What time are you going to start?
jordan holmes
Probably 11. Okay.
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you hear a rapping on your window at about 11.30, that's me.
jordan holmes
We'll see.
We'll see what happens.
dan friesen
It's me, and I'm day drunk.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Now that might be fun.
dan friesen
Crashing in through your window.
jordan holmes
I'd be fine with that.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode.
We're going to be talking about Wednesday and Thursday of this week.
That is March 17th and 18th, 20...
unidentified
I'll believe it in it.
jordan holmes
Damn it!
Damn it!
This is a terrible idea that is only gotten worse.
dan friesen
I think it's over.
I think it's over because you technically won.
jordan holmes
Now I'm too aware.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But you also won.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The whole thing was you weren't winning.
jordan holmes
I would never win.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The game got busted by you winning.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, naturally.
Hold on.
What's that?
Is somebody at the door?
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Wait.
jordan holmes
How does this bit go?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
That bit is now that we don't know how that bit works.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So it's an interesting little bit of time.
I think there's a couple of very important things that come up.
But actually, I'm kind of shocked by what doesn't come up.
And then we have one of Alex Jones' most spectacular flare-ups.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Blow-ups on air in recent memory.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But before we get to today's episode, let's take a little moment and say hello and thank you to some walks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
dan friesen
So first, hi in Seattle.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Hello!
Hi in Seattle.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
H-I-G-H.
jordan holmes
H-I-G-O.
I was going to say.
Well, then get some sleep.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Or if it was H-I in Seattle, that could be like Fraser.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hello, Seattle.
jordan holmes
Hello, Seattle.
dan friesen
Next, Big Robbie D. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Big Rob.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Paul Joseph Fartzen.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much, PJFs.
dan friesen
And Cassie, thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Cassie!
dan friesen
And I'd like to give a happy birthday shout-out, because fucking on the last episode I said we're going to do this monthly, and then I get a fucking email from somebody who's asking to be a March birthday shout-out.
I was saying at the end of March we'd do April.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
We're not going to be able to do this.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
We'll never keep track of this properly.
unidentified
Now the bit of this is being unable to do the- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Let's try and give everybody birthday shout-outs.
But never actually get to the names.
dan friesen
This isn't their fault.
jordan holmes
Of course it's not.
dan friesen
I've got no problem with this person, and I hope they have a happy birthday.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But clearly...
jordan holmes
For your birthday, we get an existential crisis.
dan friesen
Clearly, I'm not meant to have an email address.
Anyway, happy birthday, and congratulations on becoming a technocrat to our beloved trans-dimensional chocolate male vitality raptor out in Michigan.
Thank you so much, Del.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Del.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, Del.
dan friesen
Beloved trans-dimensional chocolate male vitality rapper and a funky homo sapien.
jordan holmes
How could you not enjoy both of those people?
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
So, Jordan, Wednesday and Thursday of this week, I was dreading this.
I was dreading doing the show because I had a sense...
That possibly Alex would talk about the Atlanta shootings.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
At the spas in Atlanta that left eight dead.
jordan holmes
No interest in doing that.
dan friesen
No, and I thought that would be really complicated because there's a lot of issues to unpack.
You know, both about the anti-sex worker ideas that are possibly motivating of the shooter, and also certainly the violence towards Asian Americans.
jordan holmes
Anyone who created Fentanyl the Magic Dragon or whatever can shut the fuck up.
dan friesen
Right, and I thought it would be really difficult with the information that we have available, but both of those things are things that intersect with Alex's world in a...
Kind of scary way.
jordan holmes
Insofar as he is misogynist and anti-Asian.
dan friesen
Yes.
And I didn't want to deal with it.
And so I was worried, and I get into it, and he doesn't bring it up at all on Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Not a surprise.
dan friesen
He makes a passing reference to being an incel on Thursday, but he doesn't really talk about this incident at all.
And so if he does in the future, we'll talk about it.
But for now, I mean, my...
Feeling is, I'm looking to get more information as it becomes available, and I think it's a horrible tragedy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is how Alex started his show on Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Aroha, amigos!
unidentified
It's me!
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out!
alex jones
Sentinel, the dragon.
unidentified
I am named after the product that my bosses, CCP, bring into your country.
alex jones
We will talk about Sentinel in a moment, but first the COVID hot that I launched with your Bill Gates.
dan friesen
So...
I think that might be a little bit tasteless.
jordan holmes
Somebody tell me that there is...
Oh, racism against Asians is not high.
Go ahead and tell me that whenever this is just fucking available.
Nobody's stopping this.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
And even if, like...
Even if...
Anti-Asian sentiment wasn't what predominantly motivated this shooter.
Even if that is the case, which I'm not saying is necessarily the case, but even if that were the case, if you're Alex Jones doing InfoWars, I would think, hey, why don't we put this off?
The next day, you're starting your show with a fentanyl, the Chinese dragon, racist-ass character?
jordan holmes
What are you going to say?
He's going to be like, oh, see, the shooter was motivated by misogyny, so it's totally fine for me to disrespect the victims by being racist.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex starts the show in earnest, and he comes in, and he's got some big news.
alex jones
I do not say this on air for dramatic effect.
unidentified
I say it because it's the truth.
alex jones
We have absolutely gone into the zeitgeist we are in.
For lack of a better word, revelations.
And this morning, I was out for a hike and had the blood pumping through my brain.
And I just had 30 minutes of complete and total clarity.
jordan holmes
Is this going to be about wet-ass pussy?
alex jones
And then driving into the office, I recorded about a 20-minute breakdown of what I'm about to lay out again.
But it was very calm how I did it and very cogent.
And so I am going to have that put down to a video file with a few documents and a few video clips.
But I'm going to air it.
I'm going to air it at the bottom of the next hour.
In about an hour and 25 minutes, it'll take two segments to air.
And I'm going to talk about it ahead of time, but everything I'm about to say is documented.
dan friesen
So if you don't...
Catch what he's saying.
Here's what's going on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He took a hike that morning.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And he got some clarity up in his head.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Then, driving to the studio on his phone, he recorded a 20-minute breakdown of whatever vision he got while he was hiking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounded like what I was hearing, and that made me deeply uncomfortable.
dan friesen
Now he's going to talk about this stuff and then play the report that is the recording of him on his phone.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
So he's got like a 30-minute conference call that he needs to get to.
So he recorded a nice little break for people.
dan friesen
Yeah, that might be.
jordan holmes
That sounds like the most reasonable explanation for this.
dan friesen
Yeah, or he didn't have a guest to eat while that person was on air.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I need a snack about two hours in.
I'll play this 20-minute clip.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, the long and short of this, I don't want to spoil anything for you, but it turns out the globalists are planning a false...
Extinction in 2030, I think.
jordan holmes
Did you need to go on a hike to get there?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I honestly was looking at it and I'm like, that's kind of cute.
Like, it's nine years away.
That kind of implies to me that Alex wants to live.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does sound right.
dan friesen
He's putting it off pretty far into the future before it's like, Alex, come on, man.
jordan holmes
He's protecting the game.
dan friesen
Yeah, for nine years.
It's not next month.
2022?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's 2030, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He'll be probably retired by then.
jordan holmes
Well, somebody will hopefully have forced him to retire by then, at least.
dan friesen
That's kind of aspirational.
jordan holmes
It's really frustrating to me because he's in a sweet position as far as Doomsday Cult leaders go.
You know, like other Doomsday Cult leaders, you can only predict the end of the world a few times and be wrong before people kind of get the gist here.
The world is going to end on this date, 2000?
dan friesen
It's happened a lot.
jordan holmes
It happens all the time.
dan friesen
But get this.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
It's going to be fake.
It's going to be a false flag extinction.
jordan holmes
I guess that's also comforting?
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, so anyway, that's what Alex was calling on his phone to talk about.
jordan holmes
If the extinction is successful, you really don't even need a false flag for it, right?
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll get to that when we get to it.
jordan holmes
The 50 people left are going to be like, yeah, that was definitely the alt-right, guys.
We got them.
dan friesen
So Alex is going to get to that when he gets to it, and we'll get to it when he gets to it.
But before that, he has to talk about how he's got high-level sources that give him really in-depth cool...
jordan holmes
Are they at the top of a mountain?
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
Yes, and that's why...
jordan holmes
That's why he took the hike.
dan friesen
And that's why they have access to such, like, current...
Important information.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
Because they're radiating at that high level frequency.
jordan holmes
We just gotta go up.
alex jones
We're now entering the time.
In fact, we have entered the time where everything is just gonna be out in the open now.
I have an article right here that a national talk show host sent me minutes before I went live.
dan friesen
Tucker.
alex jones
And the reason I mention that is not name-dropping.
Maybe not Tucker.
It's insane.
I can pick the phone up and call Trump.
I can pick the phone up and call Tucker Carlson.
I can pick the phone up and call General Flynn.
I can pick the phone up and call Joe Rogan.
I can pick the phone up and call basically anybody that's on the good guy side.
It's just an incredible responsibility.
dan friesen
Real quick, just a point of fact.
Podcast that he did, that Flagrant 2 or whatever the fuck, the one in Miami where they're fucking wasted, that is actually video evidence that he can't just call Joe Rogan.
He tries multiple times, and Joe does not pick up.
jordan holmes
It feels a little bit like how I can say, you know, I can pick up my phone and tweet at anybody I want to right now.
That's the same level of, sure, you have their number, but...
Nobody's responding.
dan friesen
I remember back when I used to produce a comedy show, we'd have people like Hannibal Buress or Nick Kuhn would come through town, and I would have their phone numbers because I had booked them on the show and coordinating when they were going to arrive, and I would sometimes be drunk and be like, I have Hannibal's number.
I'm never going to fucking call this guy.
jordan holmes
That would be rude.
I have Dave Attell in my phone from when we worked together.
I am never, ever in a million years going to pretend that I can just call Dave Attell.
dan friesen
That's how it feels with Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
I was just sent this before I went live.
Transgender activist makes argument for all children to be put on puberty blockers until they can determine the identity.
Puberty blockers are toxic.
They kill a lot of people.
They cause massive depression.
So imagine we're going to put you into this system.
That basically sterilizes you if you're a boy.
It makes you closer to a girl.
That's what these monsters are.
That's their endgame.
That's their goal.
And no one's allowed to criticize them because it's a scientific takeover.
dan friesen
So leaving aside a lot of the finer points there, this was a story from December.
So whoever Alex's cool media source is contacting him right before he got on air might be a little bit behind the times.
Or maybe they don't exist.
And Alex just recently heard about this this morning.
Maybe one of his staffers found it.
The headline Alex is reading is word for word, the headline from an article in the Washington Examiner from December 14th, 2020.
It has to do with something that was tweeted by a YouTuber named Zinnia Jones.
Zinnia was making what essentially amounts to a reducto ad absurdum argument against the notion that trans youth were incapable of giving informed consent to take puberty blockers.
The tweet read, quote, This was followed up with another tweet.
What this person was suggesting is pretty clear, and Zinnia explained this when they were reached for comment by the Washington Examiner.
Quote,
That makes total sense, and the argument that's being made here is structurally fine.
But the argument isn't advancing that it's good to put all youth on puberty blockers, as clearly stated in the article that Alex has cited.
It's an argument specifically designed to illustrate a counterexample that shows the flaw in an already existing argument.
Zinnia's tweets were in response to the United Kingdom Supreme Court decision that, quote, there will be enormous difficulties in a child under 16 understanding and weighing up this information and deciding whether to consent to use of puberty-blocking medication.
And the tweets really only make sense in light of that context, of that decision.
These tweets put forth what Zinnia, I believe in good faith, contends as an absurd implication of the logic being used by the UK court.
Unfortunately, from a purely logical standpoint, the argument put forth isn't super effective in this case.
For Zinnia's argument to hold water, it would need to somehow illustrate how the proceeding of a naturally occurring process and the intervention in that naturally occurring process require the same level of consent, which is going to be difficult.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They did, though, I do recall Zinnia saying that she wanted to eat the Irish and that she did, or they did stand by that.
dan friesen
I know Alex is an expert in Swiftian satire.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were like, we gotta just eat the fucking Irish, so.
dan friesen
And just to be totally clear, I support trans youth having access to puberty blockers.
The logic of Zinnia's argument just has a hole that could be easily exploited by people arguing against it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But otherwise, it's alright.
Anyway, Alex is mad about this three months later, and he's opening his show bragging about how one of his super cool media friends brought it to his attention.
It's tomorrow's news today.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do like hearing about tweets from three months ago.
Those are my favorite news stories.
dan friesen
Also, the whole thing there where Alex is saying that puberty blockers were linked to lots of deaths, that seemed weird to me, since that's not my understanding of it at all.
I looked into it, and it turns out Alex is passing along, dun-dun-dun, fake news.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
In September 2019, a bunch of right-wing Christian sites began posting articles about how a drug used as a puberty blocker for trans youth called Lupron had been linked to over 6,000 deaths.
This headline was flashy, and it led to articles all over right-wing media in places like LifeSite News and Daily Wire.
Ben Shapiro retweeted it.
and the claim went viral all over social media.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
The drug had been linked to over 6,000 deaths, but the problem is that Lupron is not just a drug that's given to trans youth.
According to NBC News, quote, the thousands of people who die while taking these drugs are likely the terminally ill cancer patients who receive hormone blockers to fight hormone-sensitive cancers like prostate cancer, according to X. Oh, well that's hardly fair!
Right.
The underlying FDA data that was used by these blogs to show that there had been 6,370 deaths over the past 40 years that were patients who were on Lupron.
That's all they were using.
From there, they just assumed that all these patients were trans youth, as opposed to terminally ill cancer patients, and decided to create a duplicitous fraudulent anti-trans narrative out of it.
I would bet anything that Alex just saw this headline back when it was being posted on social media, he never thought to look into it or understand the matter further, because he's dumb and lazy.
jordan holmes
You know, 50 years from now, I bet the Japanese will improve upon it and call it Lupron III.
Ah, come on!
Oh, you don't even get that reference at all, do you?
dan friesen
I don't know if I should pretend I get it or just like...
jordan holmes
Okay, Lupin the Third.
So it's based off of Arsene Lupin, the French cat burglar, the famous French cat burglar.
dan friesen
Oh, yes.
jordan holmes
There was an anime 50 years later in Japan called Lupin the Third.
dan friesen
Forgive me for not knowing my anime and famous French cat burglar history.
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't you know that?
One, Miyazaki did Lupin III, and it was incredible.
dan friesen
I'm sure it is.
It's a hole in my cultural awareness.
jordan holmes
Well, don't worry about it.
A few people will get it, and they will fucking shit.
dan friesen
The intensity of that look you gave me was really scary.
jordan holmes
I knew you weren't going to get it.
I was so mad.
dan friesen
Very scary.
jordan holmes
Oh, well.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is just full of...
Bad information already.
And so, you know, this clip like this kind of is a little funny.
alex jones
The average Westerner has less attention span than a goldfish, so they may have a native intelligence, but their subconscious brain and their conscious brain have basically been merged where they're like jellyfish.
They're in a trance, and the sleeper must awaken.
That's why when you tune into NPR...
When you listen to a politician, they talk very, very slowly.
And they talk very, very softly.
And they don't want anyone on NPR that talks in an excited voice.
Because what does an excited voice do?
What does that do?
It wakes people up!
dan friesen
I would say that an excited voice like that actually distracts from the glaring holes in the information being yelled.
jordan holmes
Okay, there might be that.
So wait, if NPR gives me a show, I will immediately become the greatest left-wing commentator there is in Alex's eyes.
dan friesen
I guess.
I mean, I think that there is, you know, if you go back to stand-up, there's a lot of people who make up for, like, kind of iffy writing with overperforming.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be me, Dan.
Literally, word for word.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that Alex's performance and his showmanship or whatever is designed in order to make up for and distract people from the fact that he doesn't know anything.
He's just making all this shit up.
jordan holmes
One could argue most people who scream are often doing that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Lupron.
dan friesen
Lupron the third.
Anyway, this next clip, this is great, man.
This is where I live.
I like people who are happy.
I like it when people are happy.
Even people I dislike, like Alex, I'd rather everyone be happy because then positive vibes are emanating out into the universe, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so Alex is in a real good mood because magic happened in his life.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Did he take another hike?
dan friesen
He went on that hike.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And he had an idea.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then listen to what happened.
The staff, the crew, they're amazing.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
We've all had dreams that come true.
We've all had nightmares that come true.
That is not true.
We've all said, hey, let's visit Grandma.
jordan holmes
None of this is true!
alex jones
Phone rings, Grandma just died.
That actually happened with me.
This morning, I cut an audio recording dealing with the globalist's plan to have a staged end-of-the-world event on or around 2030, and I'm totally sure of it, and I have the proof.
I'll show you coming up.
dan friesen
He doesn't.
alex jones
When I thought about it...
I thought, I'll just put the graphic of the satellite footage of the Earth from orbit over that.
And I said, I'm going to have them do that as the background today.
And I swear on everything I am, on my heart, on my soul, that when I walked into this building this morning, I looked up and they were punching up this background of the satellite of the Earth.
We probably do this twice a year.
And I walked in here intending to do the headline, Globalist Plan, the controlled end of the world by 2030.
I told my wife as I walked out of the house, I said, I have just received the biggest download I've ever gotten on the hike I had just done.
She said, what do you mean?
And I said, they're going to stage the end of the world in 2030.
And she didn't think I was crazy because she's seen me do this all the time.
dan friesen
Okay, that's why.
That's why.
Honey, I took a hike and it turns out that God downloaded into my brain that they're going to fake the end of the world in 2030.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
Could you pick up something to eat on the way home?
dan friesen
Would you like a little road sake?
jordan holmes
Do you want to stop by Costco?
We're out of cereal.
Come on, Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a little bit silly.
jordan holmes
I want to hear him read the pale blue dot speech over that graphic.
dan friesen
Actually, that's what it is.
unidentified
Everyone you've ever known lived on that pale blue dot.
And the Globlows are going to fake an extinction in 2030.
dan friesen
Yeah, okay, so Alex got a weird idea while he was hiking, and now he's decided this is the greatest thing in the world.
He figured out how he wanted to visualize it.
He comes into the studio.
Staff is already fucking with that image.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
This is synchronicity.
jordan holmes
It blows your mind.
This is magic.
dan friesen
This is the universe, man.
jordan holmes
It blows your mind.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
dan friesen
Wow.
You're cold-hearted, man.
jordan holmes
I am cold-hearted.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
I am cold-hearted to coincidences of all kinds.
dan friesen
You know, they say that you can never really know the people around you, and I feel that now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, clearly.
dan friesen
Because I cannot believe this has not penetrated your stone heart.
jordan holmes
Dark.
I don't think ghosts are real.
What else do you got?
What else do you got, Alex?
I'm not doing dreams.
dan friesen
All right.
Well, put a pin in that for a little bit later.
jordan holmes
Oh, we're going to keep doing dreams.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, we get to Alex responding to some big news, and that is that Trump has come out in favor of vaccines for COVID-19.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this has got to be a false flag.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
No, it's not.
It's maybe a breaking point.
alex jones
But I knew Trump had globalist enemies.
And I knew that they hated him, and I wanted to fix things, and I wanted to believe in it.
And I don't think Trump himself is a bad person.
I know people that know him very well, but he's limited.
And he's not this big, giant, 4-D chess guy that everybody says he is.
He just goes with what he thinks is right.
He also is way too optimistic and buys too much into science when it's globalist science.
And all the stuff they gave him, the randesivir and the rest of it, and the gene therapies made him feel so great, he's now on board with everything they did.
He has come out and gone on Fox News and endorsed these killer vaccines.
And after you've seen 25 countries in Europe ban it now and hundreds around the world and all the deaths and all the problems, that the only way to get through to Trump is to get in his face about this.
So I'm going to reach out to Trump.
I'm going to get a hold of him if I need to.
And I'm going to communicate with him here on air.
And I'm going to call his son up.
dan friesen
Yeah, this sounds like you have a lot of access.
Yeah.
Alex has been mad.
Trump just got all these drugs from people that made him feel good.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's like, vaccines, man, come on.
jordan holmes
I have a hard time believing that this conversation didn't happen where somebody's like, Trump, we need you to endorse the vaccine.
It can save lives.
You have a lot of influence over people.
A lot of Republican men, almost half of them, refuse to get vaccinated.
And him saying, I can't do that.
It would piss off my followers who want to kill people.
dan friesen
And then the other person coming back, here's a hundred grand.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
And I'm saying, deal.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he was on Fox.
jordan holmes
I am for sale.
dan friesen
He was on Fox and Friends and he said, people should get the vaccines.
Your choice.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and whatever.
Too little, too late.
But what I think is going on more is that I think Alex might realize that, like, Trump's a dead end at this point.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And this would be a really good time to just be like, all right, don't care anymore.
jordan holmes
Bail.
dan friesen
And so Alex has decided...
jordan holmes
This is free money.
dan friesen
He's decided that unless Trump cuts it out with his vaccine stuff, that it's over.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And I'm going to communicate with him here on air, and I'm going to call his son up.
And I'm just going to say, here's the evidence, and if you continue to say this is wonderful and this is good, and there's, quote, no problems, you're a bad guy, and I'm going to be against you.
So, that's that.
I understand he wanted to reopen the economy.
He thought, okay, if it's just a vaccine, you know, you shouldn't be made to take it, he said, but if you want it, get it.
I'm like, well, that's still bad, but I understand what he's doing.
I don't agree with it, but I see his perspective.
Now he's like, everybody needs to get it.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
So, yeah.
I think he sees an off-ramp.
There's no hope of Trump really ever becoming president again.
There's no power there, really.
The movement or whatever is so splintered.
jordan holmes
Fractured and hates each other, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, and there is a possibility of coalescing again, but it's not going to be around Trump.
And Trump Jr. is a...
Fucking not option.
He's a non-runner, non-candidate.
jordan holmes
I think they're running into the problem that a lot of would-be monarchs run into, which is that their children are stupid.
Incredibly so.
dan friesen
Right, and that's okay if you're already a monarch.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Because then you can't stop the power going down.
jordan holmes
You gotta go straight Caesar on this guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so I think that Alex realizes that There's not a whole lot of value in maintaining Trump.
There's value in maintaining, like, I didn't make a huge mistake for the last two years, but this is a line too far.
And I think we may see that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he can carve out a...
Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if he could carve out a better space for him moving forward by being the, oh, it's the crazy guy who's also anti-Trump now.
dan friesen
I mean, he could have this whole time, probably.
But also, one of the things I think What I think is interesting is he takes calls eventually on this show and the next show and, like, no one cares.
No one is like, hey, what, uh, how you're talking bad about Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They've all moved on, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was just an avatar for their hatred and desire to kill, and that apparently can exist without him, so they realize they don't need him.
dan friesen
Yep, they'll create another.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex doesn't care that Trump patted him on the head.
unidentified
Hmm.
alex jones
Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show.
All right, I'm gonna...
Talk about Trump.
And really, for me, what will become the last straw?
It doesn't mean that I won't say he's good on topics.
We should take over the Republican Party.
And we need his energy.
And boy, he called up and congratulated my wife when we got married.
All that great stuff.
And boy, patted me on the head and told me I'm the greatest broadcaster and I'm going to take over for Rush Limbaugh.
And how wonderful.
I don't care about all that.
dan friesen
I only kept that clip because Alex is definitely not mad that Dan Bongino took over.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, not at all mad about that very insulting thing to him specifically.
Not even a little bit mad at all about Dan Bongino taking the spot that he considers rightfully is.
dan friesen
I think it's great.
unidentified
I think, you know what, most radio stations played me instead of Rush anyway.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's definitely not mad.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex has been trying, you know how, like, his media contacts reached out to him and told them about this three-month-old tweet?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Alex also has some information he's been trying to get out to his media contacts, and what do you know?
It's over a year old.
alex jones
And I'm going to just tell you something here, that when I say I don't feel worthy to cover this, we cover so much huge news continually that it's just critical for me and you and all of us to continually, constantly realize how huge this is.
unidentified
Huge.
alex jones
Because it's easy to get live on air and cover a lot of stuff because it's live.
But if I produce slick reports on this, it would get 10 times the views online.
It would actually change the world.
And an example is this.
I was given this over a month ago.
I didn't know about this.
I learned stuff all the time.
I finally have read, because it took me a month off and on, spending 30 minutes here, 20 minutes there, 10 minutes here.
To read this entire folder.
And I've asked Greg Reese, one of our best researchers, to do a report on this.
I've asked everybody else that has time.
You know, stay up here late, whatever.
Everyone should do different reports on this because every time I read this, I probably read this whole stack three times.
I probably looked at it 20 times.
jordan holmes
Doubt it.
alex jones
I just scanned through it.
Every time I look at this, I find new stuff because, you know, you get mentally exhausted.
When you're reading scientific documents.
And this is a small portion.
This is probably 150 pages or more on Crimson Contagion.
jordan holmes
If you get mentally exhausted reading...
Scientific papers.
Maybe you shouldn't be reading scientific papers.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Crimson Contagion, we talked about it on the last episode, was covered in a New York Times article a year ago.
jordan holmes
Quite old.
dan friesen
Alex found out about a month ago and has leisurely read through some stuff.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And now he's ready.
He doesn't actually really get down into it.
He just complains about how his media friends don't want to cover it.
alex jones
On Crimson Contagion.
I did 10 minutes with Owen Schroer yesterday.
That's in the Owen Schroer section of Bandai video.
And that's the first boil down I've done.
But it is to say bombshell.
We ought to call this show bombshell.
Because mainstream media is always bombshell this, bombshell that.
Global exclusive this, global exclusive that.
I don't want to be the global exclusive.
dan friesen
You're not.
alex jones
I've actually sent this to the main talk show hosts in the country.
All of them.
dan friesen
Tucker.
alex jones
I guess one of them is dead now.
Can't do that.
But I've sent it to the other two guys.
And they're sending me stuff.
They're like, I'm busy.
You cover it.
And I get it.
This is unbelievable.
dan friesen
I think that they're saying, I'm busy, you cover it, because they know it came out a year ago.
jordan holmes
That's so funny.
dan friesen
Right?
I mean, that has to be the explanation.
They know, like, this isn't news.
jordan holmes
This is nothing, man.
unidentified
You've got nothing for us.
dan friesen
We should call our show Bombshell, because we report on things a year after the New York Times.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
And, you know, what's interesting, too, is I would bet that Tucker would have enough sense to realize that, like, you shouldn't be talking about this.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
This looks bad for Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This looks real bad.
And in order to spin it, you kind of need to exist within a fully realized conspiracy world.
jordan holmes
You can't have a foot in reality.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
You have to create a complete isolated space where you can pull off a...
Actually, it was the globalist plan.
dan friesen
Yeah, and Tucker is trying to pretend he still lives in the shared reality we all live in.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Whereas Alex, just like, he gave up on that illusion a long time ago.
So yeah, we got Agenda 21. You remember that?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Agenda 2030, maybe?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now there's Agenda 2035.
jordan holmes
Ooh, I like that.
alex jones
And so there are servants of Satan, and there are servants of the living God that built this planet and gave us life.
jordan holmes
And then there's the rest of us.
alex jones
Next hour, I'm going to expose the next level of the enemy operation.
We were amongst the first to expose Agenda 20...
21. Whoops.
And now we're exposing Agenda 2030.
But what comes after Agenda 2030?
jordan holmes
Deltron 3030.
alex jones
For the first time ever, you're going to hear next hour about Agenda 2035.
dan friesen
Featuring Dan the Automator.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
alex jones
If they have their way, there will be no humans, as we are known today, left on Earth in 14 years.
No more humans!
jordan holmes
No more humans?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
That seems like a bad plan.
dan friesen
Yep.
It's complete nonsense.
And he just, like, I love how he just makes up a new agenda name.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
jordan holmes
Why not?
Agenda 2030.
dan friesen
Agenda 2035.
I think Agenda 2030 is actually real.
I think that is the name of, like, a summit that they have.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
Fine.
dan friesen
But Agenda 2035, I think, is entirely Alex's own creation.
jordan holmes
I like that.
He can create words and he can create agendas.
dan friesen
So one of his agendas is, you know...
I've never watched any of the Freddy Krueger movies.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Have you watched those movies?
jordan holmes
I've watched A Nightmare on Elm Street or two.
dan friesen
I know that they take place in the realm of dreams.
jordan holmes
They do, and you shouldn't fuck.
dan friesen
If you fuck in a nightmare, Freddy gonna get you?
jordan holmes
Freddy's gonna get you.
dan friesen
So that's kind of, you know, it's in the realm of dreams and nightmares.
And Alex lives in that space, too, a lot.
You know, he has these visions when he's on hikes.
And apparently, I would think that a lot of...
The stuff that he does, whether for good or bad, may be driven by subconscious things that he might not understand.
jordan holmes
Oh, I would argue that all subconscious things he does not understand.
dan friesen
So listen to this clip with that context in mind.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is about how if you get an abortion, then you'll be fine with killing old people and stuff.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's like a slippery slope kind of thing.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And then Alex starts talking about his own history of paying for abortions, and he says some stuff that makes me really uncomfortable.
alex jones
And so Trump coming out and doing this, for me, is him crossing the Rubicon.
Because this is 2021.
And there's major pushback against this.
But see, I predicted this.
It wasn't hard to predict.
It's how they work.
They say it's not a baby.
It's not a human.
Roe v.
Wade, 1973.
Tens of millions of women get an abortion.
Now they're going to defend it because they never want to admit they killed their baby.
They never want to admit it doubles their chances of uterine cancer, cervical cancer, ovarian cancer, or more.
More than double in some of the studies.
They just know it's good because they commit the crime against God.
Instead of repenting, you harden your heart, you double down, you don't get God to forgive you, and now you're a servant of evil, and now you're going to support euthanizing old people.
Now you're going to support keeping babies alive and selling their organs.
Because once you're on that track, you never...
Look, folks, I'm not a hypocrite.
How that family say, why in God's name would you admit you paid for abortions?
That's horrible.
Because I did it.
And I repented.
And I swore to God when I was like 17 years old and we found God that I would not do that again.
And I went years without even dating.
Because, man, I could look at a woman getting pregnant back then.
I'm still fertile.
And then I got a pregnant, married her, had three children with her.
And that's the way.
I will never do that again.
And I repented and I had that God forgave me.
And it's like King David did all these horrible things, but he didn't mean it.
His heart was real.
God judged his heart.
He was forgiven.
And it was so good.
jordan holmes
He wrote the book.
alex jones
Repent!
jordan holmes
Kind of painted himself in a positive light.
alex jones
I still have nightmares seeing the children, though.
God still shows me the children as they grow up and how beautiful they were.
I had a big nightmare the other night.
I was holding this little baby in my hand.
It was about an inch big.
It was my son.
It was this incredible son.
And this demonic wolf just came and said, you killed your child, just ate it right in front of me.
unidentified
And I couldn't do anything.
alex jones
And Satan looked right at me with those red eyes and said, I've got your ass.
But you don't because Christ has delivered me and cleansed me of what I did.
And as long as I don't back down now, I will be with Christ forever.
And so Satan, get behind me.
I don't listen to a damn thing you say.
That's what this comes down to, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
That is what this comes down to.
jordan holmes
So he was holding his tadpole of a fetus, not even that.
Still borderline an ovum in and of itself.
dan friesen
And then the devil ate it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And the devil ate it in front of him.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex said he has nightmares that God shows him these kids, so apparently God is sending these nightmares where the devil eats his child in front of him, and somehow Alex is like, yeah, God's forgiven me, I've repented, everything's fine, but God's torturing me in my dreams.
jordan holmes
No, that's how you keep Alex in line, okay?
If you're God, you've chosen Alex to defeat the devil, and you can't let the chosen one stray from the path, so you gotta send him constant...
Terrifying, threatening nightmares to make sure he knows you love him.
dan friesen
I look at this from a more, I don't know, materialist perspective.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
More, like, reality-based.
jordan holmes
Al, I can see your stone heart right now.
dan friesen
I kind of see this as a thing where Alex may feel tremendous amounts of guilt about things that he, and his opposition to abortion and the demonicness of it, maybe a lot of it might be a byproduct of how terrible he feels about himself.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure.
dan friesen
More importantly, this is what I want to say.
This doesn't belong on air.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
This is not cool.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This isn't cool.
jordan holmes
This is bad.
dan friesen
This isn't good for a news show.
This isn't good for an editorial show.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
This isn't good as analysis of anything.
jordan holmes
Real bad.
dan friesen
It maybe has a place as, like, mid-range televangelist.
jordan holmes
I could see that.
Yeah, I can see local televangelists.
Not like one of the all-national ones.
He doesn't have a private jet, but he can afford a tour bus.
dan friesen
Somewhere under the Jack Van Impey level.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yeah.
dan friesen
I find this to be really bizarre that anybody would listen to this and just be like, man, this guy gets it.
He's talking on air, rambling about how he has visions at night of his babies that he paid for abortions and then the devil eats them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex gets mad and...
God.
Just like...
jordan holmes
It's hard to take a man seriously who says we've got big news to get into, and then later on goes to be like, I had a dream, and let me tell it to you in exhausting detail.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was the devil eating my unborn child to punish me or taunt me, and God welcomed that dream into my head as some kind of...
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, I mean, like, I really got this fucking weird sense about him.
Like, that is nuts.
And this is nuts.
alex jones
Back, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
Coming up in the next two segments, that key report on the globalist plan for a controlled end of the world in or around the year 2030.
Learn what Agenda 2035 is exclusively.
And I'm as serious as a heart attack.
People figure that out now.
People should hear me say this stuff 25 years ago.
It's all come true.
I've studied their documents, all their information, fused it together.
I have a lot of contacts, a lot of sources.
I'm now above basically any of those sources, except for a few of the top globalists.
I'm one of the only people outside the top globalist leadership that actually have all the contacts and all the info to see their complete master plan.
And again, I'm not bragging.
It's true.
And I literally...
Cannot tell you more at that point, okay?
dan friesen
Okay.
So only Alex and, like, king globalists actually know what's going on.
Nobody else in the world could even see through it.
I'm listening to this, I'm like, this is rank narcissism.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, no.
dan friesen
This is a display of somebody having a breakdown of some kind.
Like, this is not a well person existing in space.
jordan holmes
No, no, generally speaking, as a bipolar one.
Delusions of grandeur are usually a big sign that stuff is going off.
dan friesen
He has delusions of grandeur on a semi-regular basis.
I don't even know if I would categorize it as feeling manic, because there's also this...
jordan holmes
No, it'd be malignant narcissism.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a flare-up, though.
It's bad.
jordan holmes
And truly, if I'm the globalist and I know this, you gotta kill him.
I mean, there's no big deal.
It's not, like, whatever backlash you might get from killing him is gonna be worse than having him know your entire plan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, like, everybody...
jordan holmes
I mean, the backlash isn't gonna be worse.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, think about it.
The conspiracy world still believes that, like, the man killed Bill Cooper.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And it didn't unravel any globalist plot.
jordan holmes
Didn't even really bother anybody that much at all.
dan friesen
No, they just say, hey, Bill Cooper was right, and you know that because they killed him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That is just what would happen if the globalist killed Alex.
And if he's the only person who can see through everything and understand everything.
jordan holmes
You gotta do it!
dan friesen
It's not like anybody else.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
And if I'm a globalist, even if I'm a pacifist globalist, you know, like, I don't want to solve my problems via murder.
This is a special circumstance.
You just gotta do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that what you've done is provide a pretty decent argument for why there are no globalists, because if they were as demonic and as cutthroat and been working on a thousand-year plan, like Alex seems to think, yeah, they would have literally no reason to hold back.
jordan holmes
Totally.
And even if you have the protection of God, the God you've got protection from is the one sending you weird demon nightmares.
dan friesen
Yeah, where it eats your kid.
jordan holmes
No big deal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets down to business, doing what he does best, which is reading headlines and just saying blah-ha-ha about them.
No analysis at all.
alex jones
Okay, where should I start this segment ahead of this big report?
Let's do this.
Let's go ahead and just read headlines in the vaccine stack from today.
Overhead shot, please.
Crew found another article I didn't know of, the New York Times, right when they were launching the COVID attack a year and three months ago.
It's the end of humanity, and maybe it's for the best.
New York Times says, get rid of humans.
They're evil.
That's their religion.
dan friesen
This headline that Alex is reading on air is real, but it's in the New York Times book review section.
It's the title of a review of a novel by Guido Marcelli titled Despatio H.G., which was published in 1977.
The plot has to do with a suicidal man realizing that all the rest of the humanity has disappeared and he's the last human around.
In humanity's absence, he waxes philosophical and also notices that nature is taking over what was previously cities.
From the review, quote, This is a work of fiction that was reviewed in the New York Times book section,
and Alex is trying to pass it off as some kind of news article or opinion piece.
This is beyond the kind of sloppiness that would get anyone fired anywhere else than Infowars.
What the fuck is wrong with this shit?
jordan holmes
Man, I've got a breaking news story for him.
This comes from the 90s, and there was a piece published where a guy specifically said that it was the end of the world as he knew it.
He felt fine.
Fine.
dan friesen
I remember that.
jordan holmes
Which is fucked up, you know?
When you think about it, it's the end of the world, and this guy feels fine.
Do you know what that means?
Top globalist, Dan!
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he also predicted that it was like an eye of a hurricane, and then he listened to himself churn.
I can't remember the lyrics to that song.
jordan holmes
Don't even worry.
dan friesen
It's been a long time.
jordan holmes
It's been a long time.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, he's been teasing this report.
That he recorded in his car on the way to the studio, which you were so shallow about his vision while he was hiking.
So he's been teasing it a lot.
jordan holmes
We keep hearing it.
dan friesen
And so after reading a slew of headlines, he goes to break.
jordan holmes
How far into the episode are we?
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
Maybe two hours?
jordan holmes
A couple hours?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
About halfway through?
dan friesen
About lunchtime.
jordan holmes
So he's getting about hungry.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So he goes to eat lunch.
And I actually do know that he does that because he says that.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
So he goes and they play a special report.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And as they're playing it, I'm listening to it.
I'm like, this doesn't sound like what he was describing about Agenda 2035 or any of that stuff.
jordan holmes
Is it Quiet and Cogent?
dan friesen
No.
It's just an info or a special report.
So it goes to commercial, and then it comes back.
Mic down for this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is an amazing freakout.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That I will actually tell you is edited out of the version of this that appears on BAM.TV.
They cut this out.
alex jones
There's a lot going on around here at the office, and I know you as a listener are focused.
That's fine.
I appreciate that.
You heard me say we're going to air this 2035 report when we come back.
And I just went off and had lunch, was getting ready for the report to come on, and I saw something else come on while I was eating lunch.
I was like, holy hell, what's that?
So I ran back in there, and they're like, oh, we didn't know you wanted to air this report.
So that was not a tactic to say coming back 2035.
And so the whole show, I'm like saying it's coming up, it's coming up.
That wasn't a tactic to then...
We'll leave you there in the lurch with what we just aired.
It's great.
Everything I do, I shoot in writing from now on.
I should have a little computer that puts a printout.
The military does that.
And then it's like a bzzz.
Because the crew's great.
Maybe I should just quit.
Seriously, I'm thinking about...
I've kind of done my mission, haven't I?
Maybe I should just walk out of here and they do a better job and never see me again.
Because I can either cancel Dr. Francis Boyle coming on to talk about how this is a massive crime against humanity, a biological weapons attack on humanity, and the master plan and what they're planning and what they're doing.
I had him for an hour, but I also said I'm going to air this report.
Because I came in this morning and I said, you got until 1230 to get this report ready and add graphics to it because we're going to air this.
And I said, here's the articles I want at 1230 to put over this thing we're going to air.
And then I promoted it, and I promoted it, and I promoted it, and I promoted it.
And I'm not even bitching.
I'm trying to understand why I'm the worst communicator.
Worst!
Do a better job!
Get your ass together now!
I'm serious!
I suck!
Can't get shit.
unidentified
They're freaking killing everybody.
alex jones
Everybody's in a trance.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
Let's go to rebroadcast for a while.
We'll see if I can boil on.
I'm serious, man.
I'm two inches from walking out here forever.
Can't do this anymore, man.
We're in a damn war.
They're murdering everybody.
It's funny!
Well, I don't think it's funny!
Here, let's hear Governor Newsom.
Let's hear Trump one more time tell us how great the vaccines are.
dan friesen
Oh boy, man.
So that sound you heard was him slapping himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I just like, this is, at a certain point, this isn't a show anymore.
This is a guy breaking down.
unidentified
Yeah.
I feel bad laughing about it, but I hate him, and it's kind of funny.
jordan holmes
It's hilarious.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Also, did it just occur to you to write out a fucking script or something, an outline?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's what the military...
No!
That's what all good shows do!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
That's called, like, producing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's called producing a show.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so he has to give a little bit of an apology, obviously.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
And he explains that, you know, maybe this is on him.
alex jones
And yes, that was a real freak-out on there earlier, because it's normal when world government is coming in and setting up global passports and basically forced inoculations and doing it to newborn homeless babies.
And I'm not mad at the crew.
I wasn't clear about airing that report, I guess, to them.
And I wanted Boyle for a whole hour, but I will air that report because it only fits in the fourth of this segment.
And then you've got John Rappaport coming on, and that'll be really memed earlier, me slapping myself in the face.
But I am mad at myself.
I wish I did a better job.
dan friesen
Yeah, me too.
Man, I just love this as a bookend.
Because the episode begins with him talking about how great it was that the crew psychically knew the video that he wanted to play.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Very beautiful.
dan friesen
He didn't even tell them he wanted to play.
jordan holmes
You know what, Dan?
I'm going to tell you this right now.
I'm going to tell you this right now.
My stone cold heart.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Not wrong.
dan friesen
I said it on the show that we're premiering this report at a certain time.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I guess the producers aren't listening to the show to get that report ready?
jordan holmes
I suppose maybe we should have talked about this before the show started.
dan friesen
It's pretty remarkable.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I love it, though.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
So he has Francis Boyle on, and I don't care anymore about that guy.
Because, you know, you have this whole thing where it's like, okay, for months we're talking about how the coronavirus itself is a bioweapon that Fauci made in this lab, and now we're going to be doing the vaccine as a bioweapon that Fauci made.
I'm tired.
jordan holmes
This is boring.
Francis Doyle frustrates me.
Boyle, apologies.
Frustrates me because if you are named Francis Boyle, I assume you have been knighted.
I don't know why.
But if your name is Francis Boyle, it better be Sir Francis Boyle?
dan friesen
Probably because Arthur Conan Doyle?
jordan holmes
Probably.
Probably.
But it does sound right.
dan friesen
It kind of does.
jordan holmes
It does sound right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he makes what I'm going to call the Larry Nichols mistake.
And that is that he gives Alex permission to give out his phone number on the website to help info warriors with legal advice.
Or to assist their lawyers, because he's not licensed to practice in one state.
But he'll advise their lawyers on how to help them not get vaccinated.
jordan holmes
Good work.
dan friesen
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Good work.
dan friesen
Stupid Francis Boyle.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, we jump to the 18th now, because that interview goes, and I thought it would be funny not to cover his report that he had from his car.
Because it's a zero.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
And there are honestly more pressing issues like this that Alex gets into at the beginning.
alex jones
And all over the place, the leaders of the LGBT movements keep getting arrested for having sex with 10-year-olds and 11-year-olds.
Because the truth is, it wasn't about gay marriage.
It was always about sex with your children because it's a satanic ritual to drain off their energy, to drain off their innocence, and drain off their...
Their future.
The only thing they like better is chopping your children up with a meat cleaver while they rape them.
And I'm sorry to tell you that, but that's what the big boys do.
dan friesen
So this is a kind of moment that you might describe as a mask-off situation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex can pretend all that he wants that he's a libertarian and that he doesn't care what people do in their bedroom.
But underneath all that belief is this, which is the classical trope of homophobic rhetoric.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
To put this in context, Alex has found a story about a judge in Wisconsin named Brett Blom, who was arrested on suspicion of uploading child pornography to websites.
He apparently was a family court judge and had formerly been the president of an organization called Cream City Foundation, which is a philanthropic organization advocating for members of the LGBTQ plus community.
And in the past, that foundation had sponsored some drag queen.
Story Hour events, so naturally this is being presented in right-wing media as this guy being the head of Drag Queen Story Hour.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
What Alex is doing is engaging in selective coverage.
He makes a big deal out of every time that someone in a group of people he wants to attack gets arrested for a horrible crime, and he ignores the other instances where the perpetrator is someone who's a member of a group that he doesn't want to portray as evil.
When there's a school shooting, it's just an individual doing a terrible thing, and in those cases, Alex fully understands how bad it can be to engage in collective blame for individual actions.
Most of his career is based on yelling about how gun owners will be blamed for things like Sandy Hook or the Las Vegas shooting.
You have to resist that or else you get guns taken.
But when you get right down to it, Alex does the far worse version of ascribing collective blame for the actions of individuals because he's doing it to malign and attack historically marginalized groups of people.
Any immigrant committing a crime becomes proof that immigrants are all criminals and killers.
The crimes of any gay person becomes proof that the LGBTQ rights movement is secretly about trying to have sex with kids.
I'm certain most of the listeners don't need this spelled out, but this is profoundly dangerous.
Because what it achieves is coupling the perception of criminality with an entire group of people based on the actions of an individual who's a member of that group.
And this is just unacceptable.
jordan holmes
No, that's just so fucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's just so fucked.
God.
It just doesn't end.
It just never ends.
No matter how much fucking violence we see on a daily basis, it is still a man out there trying to get people attacked.
And it's just so fucked.
Yep.
dan friesen
So, we're not going to dwell too much on that, because a lot of that does surround a lot of the sort of Gross stuff that Alex, I don't respect him to handle.
And I don't want to replay on our show.
But I felt that that rose to a level of like, okay, Alex is saying that the sort of LGBTQ rights movement and the push for gay marriage was actually secretly about trying to have sex with kids.
And I think a moment like that does deserve a place on our show because it reveals...
Something that's under the surface of his worldview, his beliefs, and that's fucked up.
That's where he's at.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
And it's even more explicit than whenever he was like LGBTQP or whatever it was, where he was trying to add that in there.
And it's just...
It's just...
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I hate him.
dan friesen
Yep, it's the worst.
jordan holmes
I hate him.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex is mad that Biden has said some tough words about Putin.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I get the sense from listening to this episode, March 18th, that there's a sense that Alex loves Putin.
jordan holmes
Real pro-the monarch that he wishes would take over the United States.
dan friesen
I think he wishes Trump was more like Bolsonaro or Putin.
Yeah, I assume so.
Quite frankly, and I think he would rather one of them invade the United States.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he wanted a God-King strongman, and instead he got a God-King grifter.
dan friesen
He got a frontman for the mob.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
And so now he's like...
Oh, look at what could have been.
We could have had a 30-year monstrosity of a Russian rule.
Great.
dan friesen
And so I think he's going back to that.
jordan holmes
Cool.
alex jones
And so there he is up there, not knowing what planet he's on, and he's on national TV saying that Russia's going to pay soon and that they're going to be coming after him and that Putin's a killer with no soul.
And that's why Putin then said, you actually need to look in the mirror.
Well, let's talk about what Putin has done, what Putin's really up to.
Putin slashed the Russian defense budget in the last eight years over and over again.
He pulled troops out of all these different places.
He launched a national organic drive saying they want to supply the world organic food and with cleaner fossil fuels.
They have a program to promote marriage and Christianity, and they are decrying the Carnegie Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Soros Foundation.
And are saying they want a post-human world and that Russia is not for it.
And so the globalists are very, very upset because they had Russia for 80-plus years in their demonic clutches.
dan friesen
It's so funny to me because, like, last weekend I was watching Alex's documentaries for some prep on some stuff, and I watched Terrorstorm.
I believe it was in Terrorstorm.
They kind of blend together because they're very repetitive.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But he was talking about how he had proven that Putin bombed those apartment buildings.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's not hard.
dan friesen
I know, but on the Y2K episode that he did, he was talking about how Putin looks like a demon.
He's going to seize power.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I just, I don't know.
It's weird.
It's weird.
jordan holmes
It doesn't mean anything.
It's just wherever the wind blows with my prejudices today.
And then so long as you stick within the relative boundaries of those prejudices, I'll support you forever.
But if you break away, like say you support vaccines, then you're fucking done.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that he recognizes that Putin is a leader that would protect the things that are important to him, which is...
Sort of heteronormative, white, masculine-based society.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, consider the treatment of the LGBTQ people in fucking Russia.
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
So, Alex, I like it when he gets a little heady.
But I like this even more.
alex jones
If you read the Sumerian...
Here we go.
Or the Aztec hieroglyphs.
unidentified
There we go.
alex jones
The ancient Dead Sea Scrolls.
jordan holmes
Also hieroglyphs.
alex jones
Translations from 2,000 plus years ago from things 4,000, 5,000 years old.
It tells the same story.
We go to India.
They have 6,000 year old hieroglyphs.
China, 6,000 year old stone carvings that tell the same story.
A story we'll talk about.
Here, in just one moment.
jordan holmes
The story of Jesus.
alex jones
But first, let's talk about keeping the broadcast on the air.
I want to thank you all for your support.
It's a symbiotic relationship.
We get great products at the same time, but it takes a lot of money to run this operation.
We have to have our own infrastructure, our own crews.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
I feel like he slapped me in the face three times.
dan friesen
All societies over the course of all history have told the same story, and I will explain it to you after a week.
jordan holmes
Talk about money real quick, because I need it.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the real story that's been told.
jordan holmes
Beautiful.
dan friesen
Over and over again throughout history.
So Alex does a really, really long plug.
A fairly long plug.
I don't even know what's long anymore.
Listening to his show, my radar is skewed.
jordan holmes
Time is meaningless.
dan friesen
But he has a bit of a plug, and then he gets into what I think maybe is what the Mesopotamians were all about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
All right, let me do this.
Because I can't in five minutes or six minutes do it justice in this segment, but when I start the next hour, I'm going to get into humanoid and what that means and how many times I've told you about this.
And I want to be very, very clear.
I didn't predict this.
They admitted to producing humanoids 50 years ago.
It's 50 years ago.
Right about 50 years ago, humanoids were already created.
And by the way, humanoids were taken to term.
jordan holmes
50 years ago?
There are human rights.
alex jones
Quite a few of them.
We don't know the actual numbers, but a lot of governments worked on them.
So when you see movies in the 80s about replicants, they already have them.
But they're not supermen.
Most of them are mentally retarded and have horrible genetic disorders and are just in hellish situations.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we already, of course, know about the fish people with sad human eyes.
jordan holmes
Yes, naturally.
dan friesen
And then now we have tons of replicants walking around.
jordan holmes
Uh, yeah.
dan friesen
Apparently.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I was going to take this seriously.
This has to do with more stories about, like, You know, advancements that are being made in replacement organ kind of technology.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I was going to take it seriously, but then he said this, and I'm like, I'm out.
alex jones
And here's the promise that Joe Biden and Ted Turner and Bill Gates have been given by the little nasty dudes giving them this technology.
You might have heard of them.
The Bible calls them demons.
Not of this world.
Not very friendly.
They're being promised life extension, but they first got to kill us and test on us.
The truth is, these beings just want to torture us and mutate us and do horrible things to us because they know what we grow into and what we do if we're kept pure and come together as a species.
But that is not the case.
This is actually a giant genetic war on the planet.
And we've been set up for this, so I just think you should get ready for that.
dan friesen
If there's a story about some scientific breakthrough or some kind of scientific story that's going on, I find that interesting.
But I don't care to talk about it realistically when it's being presented to me as part of...
A plot where Joe Biden is going to get life extension technology, which was promised by a demon.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, they're nasty dudes.
dan friesen
No, they're demons.
jordan holmes
Called demons in the Bible, but they're otherworldly.
They're not from this place.
They're just nasty dudes.
Are you a nasty enough dude to extend the president's life is a question that I believe video games asked.
dan friesen
I certainly am not.
Yeah, I just don't...
Like, once this is the realm we're in, any real conversation doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
Once it's aliens or demons.
Nah, buddy, I'm out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Also, I just...
Anytime he says pure, I don't want him to expand upon that.
Yeah.
We all know.
dan friesen
It's better if he leaves it alone.
jordan holmes
Stay away from...
He shouldn't be allowed to say the word pure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Comes off his lips poorly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It doesn't sound good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
This is pure OJ.
What does that mean?
Is it white inside?
dan friesen
What do you want?
But in terms of the purity that he's talking about, I think he means fully human.
I think he does, although I don't disagree with you.
unidentified
No, he does.
jordan holmes
He does.
dan friesen
I believe so.
People in his community have an unhealthy relationship with the term pure.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But I think he's talking about all humans, not humanoids.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So, at this point in the show, Alex goes to calls, and...
This is one of the more uncomfortable and unpleasant set of calls that he's taken, because it has to do with the vaccine.
jordan holmes
It's all Harrison Smith calling in?
dan friesen
Oh, no.
At least that wouldn't be this, like, this is depressing.
I think this could get people killed.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
Yeah, because they're talking about the vaccine stuff, and Alex has some bad medical advice, and then he also just is acting weird with these people.
Like, there's one caller, he calls in, and he's talking about how his dad got the vaccine and then died.
And Alex's response is a little weird.
unidentified
He was in and out, you know, and he knew that's what did it.
alex jones
God Almighty, Ralph, who do you blame?
I mean, I would blame Bill Gates and the media.
People say, oh, you know, all these famous sports stars that died, they deserved it.
No, they did it.
They said, I want to protect people.
They were tough guys.
They did it because they were lied to.
They were actually heroes.
Your dad, I believe, meant well and was a hero at the end of the day.
But what about the people that did this on purpose, brother?
unidentified
Yeah, Bill Gates and the globalists.
And I would love to meet Bill Gates, I'll tell you that.
dan friesen
That's weird.
That's a weird response to have when someone's telling you this story about their dad passing away fairly recently for you to ask, who do you blame?
jordan holmes
We have a term, literally very, very old term for the thing that he is asking the man to do, and we say it in a bad context.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
It's called a scapegoat, Dan.
Who do you blame is not a good question, ever!
dan friesen
No, it's definitely not.
It's rude, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
I don't think that caller took it as rude, but it is.
jordan holmes
Who do you want me to kill is another answer for it.
Your dad was murdered.
Who do you blame?
dan friesen
Well, the thing is, like...
It's bizarre, and it's pointless to any real conversation that you want to have that would have public value.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
But it's important to understand this element of why this is exactly what Alex would ask.
Because this is an intensely painful story, if it's true.
I'm not sure it's just somebody calling into Alex's show.
But assuming that it is real, that's fucking super hard.
Dude lost his dad recently, and even if the guy's in poor health, that's still really hard.
The function of Alex's show is to take feelings like the one this caller is experiencing, Now, he's talking specifically about Bill Gates and what have you,
but make no mistake, this exact sort of transmutation of pain into hate and anger is exactly what happens towards the marginalized communities that Alex attacks and demonizes.
It's exactly the same.
jordan holmes
It's witch shit.
It is witch shit.
dan friesen
Do you blame the witches?
jordan holmes
Of course it's the witches.
dan friesen
It stopped raining.
Do you blame the witch?
jordan holmes
No, that's God.
The demons make it rain, and God makes it sunny.
dan friesen
Duh.
God, I hate people.
Alex gets another call, and this guy was saying that his dad got a shot.
And then maybe had some indications that he might have prostate cancer.
Here's how this goes.
unidentified
So my dad is a medical doctor, and he had the second round of the vaccine.
And now he just received word that his PSA levels in his prostate are high, which obviously are an indication of potential cancer.
So now he has to have a biopsy on his prostate.
alex jones
Well, they actually said that, sir.
So did he take the Pfizer or Moderna?
unidentified
I want to say Pfizer, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
alex jones
Yeah, it's the mRNA that anything that's already pre-cancerous makes it basically go cancerous.
They admit that.
Wow.
So now they want a biopsy of his prostate.
Can he show them the literature saying that it makes hormone-based tissues swell up and that they should not do any biopsies for six months?
unidentified
Oh, I guess I was not aware of that.
I mean, I've tried to send him videos and stuff.
He just, he doesn't want to hear any of it.
alex jones
Type in, doctors say don't be alarmed after mRNA vaccine if your glands, uterus, prostate swell up.
Yeah, that's what it does, sir.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Whether or not COVID-19 vaccines can cause the side effect of gland swelling, this is so irresponsible of Alex.
If this caller's dad, who is a doctor, has reason to suspect he may have prostate cancer, he needs to take appropriate steps to make sure one way or another, because the key to treatment is early detection.
Alex's advice for him to avoid getting a biopsy and just assume it's probably a side effect of the vaccine, even though the caller can't even remember which vaccine his dad got.
That could get people hurt.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is misrepresenting a recent article from the Cleveland Clinic titled, quote, Don't be alarmed by this COVID-19 vaccine side effect that could be confused with breast cancer.
This deals with possible swelling of the lymph nodes under your arm as a side effect of the COVID-19 vaccine, which is relevant because that's also a sign of breast cancer.
This has nothing to do with prostate swelling, and Alex should be immediately taken off air for offering this reckless medical advice to his audience and to his caller.
To be clear, this caller is probably going to be fine.
His dad seems to not believe this bullshit, and he's a doctor, so I would imagine he's taking appropriate actions to protect his own health.
jordan holmes
My son sent me YouTube videos, and I'm a doctor.
I think I'm gonna get a biopsy.
dan friesen
The problem is, with listeners who hear this and think Alex knows anything, what if one of them has a possible cancer symptom that they decide to overlook because Alex told them it's just a vaccine side effect?
Legitimately, that has the potential to get people hurt.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Or to give, like, if you have, God forbid, Some kind of swelling or some kind of a symptom of cancer outside of, I mean, even if it is the lymph nodes in your arm, you should probably make sure and go talk to a doctor.
But if it's in some other area and you hear Alex being like, oh, we got all the literature, you shouldn't get a biopsy for six months, that six months could be critical.
It's fucked up.
This is one of the instances of me being like very much, there should be a consequence for this.
jordan holmes
If there's a consequence for telling people to drink bleach, there should be a consequence for telling people not to get medical treatment.
Or not to do...
Yeah, no.
That's...
dan friesen
It's outrageous.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It is just as bad to say, like, hey, here's a cure for your problem as it is to say, don't seek out medical attention because you should listen to me.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're fine.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah, that's fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, this next caller, this person actually kind of tickled me with their voice.
I enjoy this guy's voice.
unidentified
Okay.
Hey, Alex.
What's up, man?
alex jones
Man, I'm just watching the new Holocaust, brother.
unidentified
I hear you, man.
Hey, man, I can't believe I'm talking to you.
Hold on.
I've been listening to you since I was sick.
dan friesen
That depressed me.
alex jones
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I like him calling him man over and over again.
Yeah, that is nice.
jordan holmes
I like his little twang.
He's doing all right.
dan friesen
Hey, man.
unidentified
What's going on, Alex?
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I like it.
Listening since he was six.
jordan holmes
No, that's not good.
dan friesen
You can't understand things at six.
The kind of topics that Alex is covering, you have no ability to gauge or to measure.
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
At a time whenever everyone is telling you that your dreams are not real, you are listening to a man tell you about how his dreams are real.
That's not good.
dan friesen
And that's how you get political awareness.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's definitely not good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, what is six?
Second grade?
What is that?
jordan holmes
First grade, I think.
Yeah, that's not good.
I remember I would finish my work early so I could play with dinosaurs.
And I remember nobody telling me that dinosaurs were actually put there by...
Oh, wait, no, I disagree.
I was told that dinosaurs were put there by God to test our faith when I was six.
So, well, that didn't have any negative effects on me, Dan.
dan friesen
Six?
It was the first year that I lived in Hawaii.
Like, I was...
First grade, holy shit.
I think back on, like, I didn't know anything.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
dan friesen
Imagine listening to Alex from that age.
jordan holmes
You'd be fucked.
I'm going to listen to Alex while I work on my multiplication tables real quick.
Okay, so three times four is twelve, and twelve is the number of the Illuminati trying to kill me.
dan friesen
This has meaning.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
The teacher might be the devil.
jordan holmes
The teacher doesn't know shit.
She's the devil.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it would be tough to live that way.
I mean, I would come home from school and I would do homework sometimes watching TRL.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This guy's listening to Alex yell about the devil.
jordan holmes
Also, he seems positively cheerful for someone who has absorbed all of Alex's bullshit.
dan friesen
Man, and once you hear about what's happened in his life recently, you'll be even more surprised that he's that chipper.
jordan holmes
Oh, wow.
unidentified
I don't know, man.
Just like this whole COVID, they're such liars, man.
My wife lost my wife last year because I couldn't really get her proper medical attention.
She had a genetic condition and she had real bad COPD.
She would not go to the hospital because they wouldn't let me stay with her.
She wouldn't.
She would not stay.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
That's this whole thing, not letting you go in because they can run a dictatorship inside there.
unidentified
That's right.
And I knew, and I wasn't going to let her stay without me because I knew if they got her in there with her condition, she was probably done for.
alex jones
Well, they would have done a fake PCR test and intubated her for the money.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
And so anyway, basically, we just sit at home until she died.
dan friesen
Jesus.
I mean, that's so sad.
That's a person who...
jordan holmes
Alex killed his wife.
dan friesen
I mean, not individually, but that information sphere of insisting that they're going to kill you for the COVID money made it so she didn't get appropriate care and sat at home and died.
If true.
Again, this is just somebody calling into Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he's calling and complimenting the guy.
Who he's been listening to since he was six.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Who got it deep into his head that you can't let your wife go without...
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
This episode has a body count.
jordan holmes
This is a...
This is a body count.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
Hypothetical future and...
jordan holmes
That's just so fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is, like...
That's how fucked up your brain gets.
I would rather...
I would rather lose my wife.
I would rather lose my wife and still believe that I am following the correct path than I would confront reality and save my wife's life.
Or whatever.
Improve her life materially.
dan friesen
I mean, the alternative was you think you have this paranoid delusion about this conspiracy that she's going to die if she goes to the hospital.
Well, she did die.
Not going to the hospital.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't understand how this is a win.
It's not.
It's so fucking sad.
jordan holmes
Wow.
That is just so fucking sad.
dan friesen
Yep.
And it's so awful when these human stories, if true, penetrate through Alex's show, and they aren't taken as seriously as they really are.
That's profoundly messed up.
And you have this, and it's like, okay, these are glimpses into some of these people's lives who have been affected by Alex's content, presumably since they were six.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And at the same time, the show the day prior was a complete freakout of him just being emotionally unhinged, yelling about how he needs to quit because the staff won't get his video out on time, and how he has nightmares of the devil eating his unborn children.
Like, it's...
That's the same person who is being looked at as an expert by this guy who...
Let his wife die at home.
jordan holmes
Here's what you get empathetically from him.
A quieter, sorry.
And then continuing to yell as if you weren't listening to somebody tell you, hey, you're responsible for my wife's death.
dan friesen
And what you're going to get is that sort of, hey, sorry about that.
But then you're also going to get a doubling down and a reinforcing and a validating of the exact conspiracy nonsense that led you and your wife to not getting appropriate care.
It's terrifying.
jordan holmes
This is straight up real cult leadership.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is 100% a your wife died and it's because of everybody but the cult leader.
That's just so fucked.
dan friesen
She would have lived if they wouldn't have killed her at the hospital.
Okay.
jordan holmes
You know what happened in my cult?
The cult leader was responsible for the death of a child.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As was his parents and everything that they believed in.
And whenever that child died due to their lack of care, their denial of care, and their belief that caring for the child at a hospital or even considering medicine would be a sin, that guy went to jail.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Everybody has the right to accept or refuse medical care.
And so, like, I am not gonna do that.
I'm not gonna play that game.
Sure.
When you are responding to misinformation or cult leadership, and that is what is motivating you, it's a completely different thing.
jordan holmes
No, that is a crime.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep.
No question in my mind.
dan friesen
So, that's just...
I feel like when I...
This is the complicated, difficult push and pull of listening to this show.
It's like, I kind of feel bad about myself, because I'll laugh.
At what's clearly a guy freaking out and having an emotionally unbalanced day on the 17th.
And I'll feel bad.
And then I'll get to this and I'll be like, I don't feel bad.
How can he deserve any consideration?
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
It's just...
jordan holmes
It's difficult to preserve your humanity when faced with such inhumanity.
Like, just true psychopathy.
I'm such a narcissist that I can hear this story that I bear responsibility, at least partially, for the death of this man's wife.
And I'm just going to tell him that he was so great.
dan friesen
I have a strong sense that Alex would not have...
Kept his wife at home.
jordan holmes
No, his wife would be in a hospital immediately.
dan friesen
A very expensive one.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's just such what you see, and you want to provide empathy for this because you are a human being, and you can't allow yourself to let empathy die.
dan friesen
It challenges me.
It's tough.
jordan holmes
But when you get past a certain point...
It's just like, fuck you.
dan friesen
For good.
jordan holmes
Forever.
For good and forever.
dan friesen
Let's put that behind us and listen to Alex.
This is not You Belong to the City.
jordan holmes
Disappointing.
dan friesen
But it is Alex doing some bumper music and rambling about nonsense just to sort of cleanse our palate on the way out of this episode.
This is a little Daft Punk track from the...
Tron Legacy soundtrack.
alex jones
All right.
unidentified
Okay.
The grid.
A digital frontier.
I tried to picture clusters of information as they moved through the computer.
What did they look like?
Ships?
Motorcycles?
Were the circuits like freeways?
And then one day, I kept dreaming of a world I thought I'd never see.
And then, one day, I got in.
alex jones
And you found out it was an off-world demonic interspatial attack.
unidentified
Are those also lyrics in the song?
alex jones
One day, I got in.
When you come at it from that perspective, it all makes sense.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
You understand it all.
jordan holmes
Hold up!
alex jones
And the enemy finally respects you.
I'm sorry?
He sees you as an enemy soldier.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
They don't laugh when we talk about that.
They look back at us and say, that's right.
We chose the winner.
You're going to lose.
dan friesen
We both laughed.
jordan holmes
I laughed significantly.
I would argue that I did not just laugh.
I went for it, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess the enemy respects you.
jordan holmes
I really don't think they do.
I really don't think they do.
dan friesen
Those three imaginary king globalists have the same understanding of the plan as Alex.
A lot of respect for him, though.
That's probably true.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Like Achilles and Hector eventually had a respect for each other, although I believe that was after Hector was dead.
But, you know.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just like that.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Ezra Levant comes on the show towards the end of this episode.
And he's just complaining that the U.S. Navy hired researchers at the University of Arkansas to spy on him and his website, and then somehow somebody sold that report to Justin Trudeau.
I can't find any evidence of this other than an article on Rebel Media where the report is referred to as Canada Election Cyber Forensics Analysis at the date, October 10th, 2019.
The actual report isn't linked there, and I have no idea if it's real, so I was trying to get to the bottom of it, and I googled it.
And guess what the first thing that comes up if you Google those words is?
jordan holmes
Bullshit?
dan friesen
Is a page where Rebel Media is doing a donor drive called Cyber Intelligence Operation Donation, using this alleged report as the bait on the hook of a pledge drive.
Quote, unlike the CBC, we don't get a billion dollars a year, so if you can chip in to help cover our costs and fight back against the lies, we would appreciate it.
I don't know if this is real or not, and Ezra Levant is a bigot and a career liar, so I'm not even going to pretend to take him seriously until he produces the report.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
But he does say something kind of funny.
unidentified
Well, you know what?
jordan holmes
Where's the ACLU?
ezra levant
If it was the Young Turks or Jim Acosta or MSNBC or even Ellen or some of the leftists on The View who were spied on, it would be top news.
dan friesen
You're Canadian.
jordan holmes
Wait, if it were Ellen?
dan friesen
You're Canadian.
It's the ACLU.
jordan holmes
Where's the ACLU?
Dan, where is the ACLU?
I mean that seriously.
Is there a physical location for the ACLU?
He was asking an honest question, Dan.
dan friesen
I don't know if the ACLU does work with people who aren't protected by American civil liberties.
jordan holmes
It's the First Amendment rights of...
The ACLU isn't in Canada.
dan friesen
They may, but I just do think that's funny.
jordan holmes
That is very funny.
dan friesen
Putting them on blast.
jordan holmes
Where is the ACLU?
If Ellen was spied upon to help her get elected Canada's Prime Minister, oh, she'd be pissed.
dan friesen
Probably a coincidence that right now Ezra Levant is in the middle of a defamation trial for saying that somebody was involved in a terrorist attack that they weren't involved in.
jordan holmes
Probably a coincidence.
dan friesen
Doesn't come up.
I'm surprised by that.
Yeah, it doesn't come up.
jordan holmes
It seems like that would be the first thing I would want to talk about.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, get out in front of that thing.
Nope, does not.
jordan holmes
Huh.
dan friesen
Yep.
I think it's for $200,000.
I think that's a couple new donors.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's going to need a lot of new donors.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Let's see.
He's being sued.
According to Chalk's statement in the claim, that's the person who's suing him, Levant alleged during his February 25, 2014 broadcast that Chalk was involved in a shooting at an Edmonton nightclub in 1993 when Chalk was 19. Chalk was acquitted of the 1993 charges in what he called a case of mistaken identity.
He vehemently denied any involvement in the shooting, saying he was at his parents' house with friends and had absolutely no knowledge of what transpired.
Yeah, so I don't know.
I don't know how that trial's gonna go, but...
jordan holmes
I think he's gonna win that lawsuit, buddy.
I think there's a reason that legitimate news outlets don't just print the first name they can find.
dan friesen
I don't know how that's gonna play out, but I do think it's a little bit of maybe an Alex Jones money bomb.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It'd be funny if he was like, where's the ACLU?
And they're representing the other guy.
That would be quite funny.
I would enjoy that an immense amount.
dan friesen
That dude's not an...
unidentified
I don't know if he's an American either.
dan friesen
Anyway, this episode's been a little bit of a bummer for me.
T to B, top to bottom, but it is over now.
jordan holmes
Is that the new way we sign off?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
The episode is over now.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, such high highs of the freak out that got edited out of Alex's own show.
jordan holmes
That's a bad one.
Again, try an outline.
One time.
dan friesen
Quite an amazing thing, too, to see.
Because there's a point when Alex says shit, and I was like, well, I gotta go find the...
You know, find this on the...
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's gone from the banned.video version.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
So he's censoring himself, if you will.
dan friesen
It got banned from banned.
They cut that whole thing out and put the right video in where the wrong video was played.
jordan holmes
What a bunch of liars!
Those motherfuckers!
That's bullshit!
dan friesen
Did it in post.
jordan holmes
I'm furious.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that was the fun.
And then 18th is so depressing.
And then the other thing is the guests, I just don't care.
You had Francis Boyle on the first one.
jordan holmes
Sir Francis Boyle.
dan friesen
Excuse me.
And then you had Duke Ezra Levant.
On the other one, and neither of them are people I care about much at all.
I mean, if they're going to bring something to the table that was interesting, maybe, but they didn't.
jordan holmes
Sure.
No.
dan friesen
And, uh, yeah.
I don't know.
I may, uh, now that we've had two episodes back in the present, I grow weary of it.
May try and time travel for Monday.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There is a little bit of that.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
unidentified
We are Facebook.
jordan holmes
Will you tell us right?
If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm the juiciest ice cube.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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