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Jan. 13, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#519: January 10-11, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan explore how the week began on the Alex Jones Show.  In this installment, Alex and one of Trump's alleged lawyers try to throw QAnon straight under the bus, and The Health Ranger makes a disgraceful return to the show.

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alex jones
18:34
d
dan friesen
50:02
j
jordan holmes
25:56
m
mike adams
07:26
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robert barnes
03:11
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donald j trump
00:02
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alex jones
Knowledgefight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com It's time to pray.
donald j trump
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're cool dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is hoodies.
jordan holmes
Hoodies?
dan friesen
I got a new hoodie.
jordan holmes
You did get a new hoodie?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Oh, Miskatonic University.
Is that a real place?
dan friesen
Arkham, Massachusetts.
jordan holmes
Oh, what happened?
dan friesen
That's Lovecraft University.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I imagine so.
dan friesen
Yeah, I've had...
I always...
It takes me forever to buy clothes.
Like, I just never end up doing it.
I've had the same clothes forever, and I've needed some new hoodies.
You know, it's winter, basically wearing a sweater pretty much every day.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so I've added some spice to my life.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
With this one, I got also another one that's the Miskatonic University Antarctic Expedition.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
That's the Mountains of Madness reference.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Very, very...
I got too much Lovecraft hoodies.
jordan holmes
No, no, you're golden.
You're golden, Dan.
dan friesen
I just couldn't decide on anything that I wanted to get that would be like, I can handle wearing this in public and it's something that I like.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I can wear this and no one would look twice at it, but if...
If it was like Cthulhu or something, I would feel very uncomfortable.
jordan holmes
People would have to do a double take and then they'd be like, oh, I get it.
dan friesen
Otherwise it just looks like it's a college shirt.
So I made that compromise.
jordan holmes
That's better than what I do with clothes, which is just every six months I buy five different colors of the same shirt and wear it.
dan friesen
That's not too bad.
I think that there's a lot of decision paralysis that you get rid of when you do that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When you model your clothing choices on Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes.
I think it solves a lot of problems before they begin.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Because then you just like, oh, grab the same thing.
jordan holmes
It's a great shirt.
This one's blue and the other one's teal.
It's a different shirt!
dan friesen
Yeah, so Jordan, how about you?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
My bright spot, Dan, was this year they just ended the GDQ for 2021.
They just ended Games Done Quick and it was a bunch of fantastic stuff.
That's great.
A lot of good runs.
And they raised over $2 million even in this kind of fucking year.
So that's really, really cool.
unidentified
That is cool.
jordan holmes
It made me happy.
dan friesen
That is a lot of fun.
unidentified
So that's a bright spot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm still wishy-washy a tiny bit about watching video games.
I can watch some of the people who put up Mario Maker videos.
jordan holmes
See, those are the ones that I watch.
dan friesen
Because those are so hard.
Oh, yeah.
It's offensive almost how hard those levels are that people make.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
Because that's the point.
jordan holmes
That was one of the things this year, like, almost...
I'm not sure.
I don't think it closed it, but it was, like, one of the last four runs.
And they were playing...
This dude was playing the hardest, like, Mario Maker level.
That wasn't even Mario Maker.
It was a hack.
It was a Kaizo hack.
And the previous world record was, like, 35 minutes.
And he did it in 18. Wow.
And everybody's watching that just going, like, what the...
What the fuck just happened, man?
dan friesen
We just saw history.
jordan holmes
And nobody even registered for a while.
They were like, that was just a really good run, man.
dan friesen
I think part of my concern is that I think I might get too into it.
I think I might enjoy watching people play video games competitively too much.
That I just can't.
I can't do it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I don't want to enter the territory lest I disappear into it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's one of those things where I've never been that good at platforming games, so they've always seemed like a struggle whenever I play them.
And then whenever you see these guys play them, it's actually a very kind of beautiful, almost dancing kind of feel where it's like, oh, I get it.
If you just do all of the steps perfectly, it's pretty to watch.
It's like if you're bad at dancing and then you watch somebody who's good, you're like, oh, I get it.
That's what it's supposed to look like.
dan friesen
For sure.
So something that's not how it's supposed to be is the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well!
unidentified
Smooth.
dan friesen
Fucking transition.
jordan holmes
You're great.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
And so that's why we're here on a Wednesday.
jordan holmes
It does seem like that.
dan friesen
Doing a little special middle-of-the-week episode because we gotta keep on top of things.
We figured it'd be too much if we waited till Friday.
Things would pile up and they may be important.
So we're going over January 10th and 11th today, 2021.
I don't have anything to say about 2021 yet.
jordan holmes
Not yet.
dan friesen
Nope.
We'll figure that out.
jordan holmes
I think this is 2021.
I'm Dan and there will only be lone survivors.
dan friesen
No.
Nope.
jordan holmes
I feel like that one's pretty good.
dan friesen
Today we're going to be going over January 10th and 11th, 2021.
I'm Dan.
This is no longer 2020.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Nah, that's not good.
jordan holmes
That's not that good.
dan friesen
No, it didn't feel that great.
jordan holmes
Nah, it didn't feel right.
dan friesen
We'll come up with something.
Okay.
But, yeah, there's a lot of horse shit on this episode.
And actually, we get a really interesting return from somebody who's been out of pocket for a while.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
There's somebody who we have not heard hide nor hair of.
jordan holmes
Health Ranger?
dan friesen
Hide nor hair of?
I'm not sure what the expression is.
jordan holmes
I believe it's seen.
dan friesen
Okay.
Well, we'll see what happens.
jordan holmes
How'd you hear a hide or a hair?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's kind of what I was concerned about.
I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But we'll get down to business on that here in a second.
But first, Jordan, we're going to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, don't dare call me a policy wonk.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Take that.
robert barnes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Nina Z. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Nina.
dan friesen
Next, Finn B., not Finn Balor.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Finn!
You're a human.
dan friesen
Next, Tom K, and it's T-H-O-M, which I enjoy quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, so it's not Tom Kenny.
dan friesen
No.
robert barnes
Oh, damn.
dan friesen
Tom K, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Tom K!
dan friesen
I like that thom.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know why.
robert barnes
You don't know why.
dan friesen
If I were Thomas and I went by Tom, I'd definitely keep that H in there.
jordan holmes
You'd like the old English H in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, I enjoy it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Next, Michelle H. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Michelle!
dan friesen
Next, Snug Do with Rob Do, which I think is the new morning show on InfoWars.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And then finally, I'd like to thank a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So, the Giuliani Brain Trust.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Kelly M. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Giuliani Brain Trust, and thank you, Kelly M. Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
We have another special little shout-out to give today.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And first, I'd like to give a shout-out to Wednesday and Biscuits, who are a couple of cats.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
That are just apparently adorable.
They're very sweet.
I've not actually seen these cats, but I'll take the owner's word.
For them.
And here's the thing.
jordan holmes
I would also give a shout out to the concept of Wednesday and to biscuits.
dan friesen
I prefer biscuits to Wednesdays.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Biscuits are great.
Oh, you ever go...
First of all, Cheddar Bay Biscuits, fantastic.
unidentified
Wrong.
dan friesen
Second best biscuit, I think, is Cracker Barrel.
They have great biscuits.
jordan holmes
That's pretty great.
That's pretty great.
dan friesen
So, Wednesday and Biscuits are a couple of cats, and the people who take care of them, I guess feed them, house them, are Kara and Andrew.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I got reached out to because at the end of last year, two of them tied the knot.
jordan holmes
Oh, congratulations!
dan friesen
Got married.
jordan holmes
Congratulations to the both of them.
dan friesen
And I got a message hoping for a happy one-month anniversary message in December.
jordan holmes
We can't do that.
dan friesen
Missed that message.
jordan holmes
No, we don't do that.
dan friesen
Missed that message.
jordan holmes
In December, we didn't speak to anyone.
dan friesen
No.
I feel very bad about that, though, so I want to make it up and wish a happy two-month anniversary to Kara and Andrew.
Happy anniversary to you both.
jordan holmes
Man, you should have hung on to it for a full year.
In December, we could have been like, ha!
You thought we forgot, assholes.
Happy one-year anniversary!
dan friesen
See, now the problem with that is I almost certainly would have forgotten.
jordan holmes
We would absolutely have forgotten.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I doubt the internet will be around at the end of this year.
dan friesen
Give Wednesday and Biscuit some treats to celebrate.
Hope you all are having a great day.
Indeed.
So, Jordan, today, let's start here on January 10th.
Alex seems to be looking at the world, and he's seeing, like, hey.
A lot of people are saying, I'm right about stuff now.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
They shouldn't do that.
alex jones
The internet is really waking up, meaning the people are really waking up, and the saying, Alex Jones was right, is being written on the walls, spray-painted on the government buildings, festooned to people's t-shirts, and typed in to Twitter and Facebook accounts by the millions a day, and it's become a maxim.
And I'm very honored that the fact that I predicted all of this, and now we're getting the credit for it, only because I want people to then realize that we know what's coming next.
dan friesen
Probably nuking a city is what he's going to predict.
jordan holmes
I too would be honored to have Jordan was right.
Directly next to, for a good time, call Clarice.
I think that would give me a lot of honor.
That would make me feel good.
dan friesen
I think Alex is just responding to the fact that a bunch of people got kicked off social media.
jordan holmes
That would make sense.
dan friesen
And he's like, yeah, I told you they're going to kick you off social media if you keep behaving in the ways that people get kicked off social media.
unidentified
Oh, what an amazing prediction.
dan friesen
I think that...
I personally would never like to be in a situation where I'm celebrating something that I said or did being memorialized in a way that I decide to call it festooned.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
If you ever catch me slipping and I use that term to be like, my words are festooned on billboards.
I'm not doing well.
Things have gone bad.
jordan holmes
My words eminent from the excrement of the ground, Dan.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But, you know, he's claimed on our previous episodes, Alex has laid out the foundation for the Antifa did the storming of the Capitol.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's great.
I like getting people killed who had nothing to do with it, and it's your fault.
dan friesen
Sure.
And now Alex, he's proved it.
jordan holmes
Oh, good.
Let me hear it.
alex jones
That's the globalists that maneuvered us to destruction.
We slipped Trump in there.
He valiantly fought to at least keep the country sovereign.
And now they hired provocateurs.
We've proven this.
We have a report coming up at the end of the hour with all the evidence.
Two out of a million demonstrators at the White House, the elliptical, the Washington Monument, stretched all the way down to the Capitol.
Some other paramilitary groups we're still identifying, showed up, attacked the police, and then the police on the other side of the Capitol opened it up to the general public.
There was very little violence, very little attacks except for a few people that were provocateurs and who they were able to manipulate to go along with them.
Some useful idiots.
And they videotaped with Antifa camera people, we've identified in every case, National Geographic camera people, the few violent events to then say that the Capitol was stormed by terrorists.
jordan holmes
Quote, the Capitol has fallen to the Patriots.
alex jones
Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
End quote.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
We just see the laying out of the narrative here.
And that is basically that, okay, so you had Antifa.
They started things off, these provocateurs.
And they were working with some other shadowy group.
It was the big tough guys that the skinny jean folks had hired.
Sure.
It's all just provocateur stuff to make us look bad, man.
jordan holmes
So what's going to happen at the next one?
dan friesen
Well, Alex is warning that there's going to be a lot more.
He's basically at this point been like, all right, they set us up.
It was all fake.
But also, I'm fucking out.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
He was planning on going to the inauguration, and now he's like, hell no.
jordan holmes
Well, that's smart.
That's smart.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is very smart.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's changed his tone quite a bit.
It's all like, oh, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Isn't that a surprise?
dan friesen
They're all going to be setups in the future.
jordan holmes
It's so wild how he would completely change his tone the moment he got exactly what he wanted.
dan friesen
And now realizes it's time to pivot.
jordan holmes
Time to pivot.
dan friesen
But, you know, hey, there's a lot of other folks who are coming out here and, you know, they're making some insightful, inciting claims and statements.
alex jones
So you have all these leftists, all these members of Congress, and I've got their quotes.
Right here.
We'll play some of the clips in a moment.
Ted Lieu threatened widespread civil unrest.
We need to see some fires.
dan friesen
So Alex is referring to a 30-second clip of Ted Lieu from 2018 where he's being interviewed by Chris Hayes on MSNBC and is discussing the potential firing of Robert Mueller.
Not fires.
alex jones
Fuck you!
jordan holmes
Fuck you!
dan friesen
He doesn't call for fires, and he doesn't actually call for anything.
He just says that if Trump fires Mueller, it would likely lead to civil unrest and protest.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
That's not a threat.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
But that's how the comment and stuff like this is reported on Infowars.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
If somebody says this is the logical result of what this person does, they're like, see, you're telling them to do it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And you're like, goddammit, guys, you're stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, also, Alex has found an Antifa leader.
That he's going to pinpoint as the villain of January 6th.
alex jones
And I have an Antifa leader that was one of the first to break in who said, we're going to go there and pose as patriots, as Trump supporters, and we're going to burn the Capitol down.
He said it in Utah, where he lives, where he's been arrested and charged for inciting a riot before.
We'll show you who he is.
He said it in D.C. the day before the event in a speech to Antifa.
Who was then getting into MAGA outfits in the Capitol.
He was arrested.
But then they dropped the charges on him because he did a good job.
dan friesen
This supposed Antifa leader Alex is talking about is a guy named John Sullivan.
He's not an Antifa leader, I don't know what that means, but he is somebody who's had some history and involvement in anti-fascist and social justice activism.
Sullivan was one of the people who was there and was recording the storming of the Capitol, supposedly as an independent journalist documenting history.
PolitiFact reviewed his footage, and there are some questions about how disconnected from the story he managed to be, with him occasionally seeming to express encouragement about what was going on around him, but that's a far cry from the accusations that people like Alex are making.
jordan holmes
As an independent journalist who agrees with all of what you guys are doing, I would like you to continue...
Storming the Capitol building, and somehow I'm the bad guy here?
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
The way it looks is that Sullivan is a bit of a bad player in the game.
He probably felt like he was doing an impartial piece of journalism, documenting a monumental moment, but he didn't show the poise and discipline to actually pull that role off.
That's what it appears like to me.
He said that some of his encouraging words were meant to help him blend in.
That very well may be the case, and I think that's what Alex is talking about with him, like we're going to pretend to be...
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Talk about people.
You do want to blend in with the crowd.
jordan holmes
I mean, they will tear you limb from limb.
They did have that kind of scrum vibe to them.
dan friesen
Scrum.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whatever the case, it's nonsense to take whatever dubious behavior Sullivan may have shown on January 6th, then take it as proof that he was somehow an Antifa leader who was responsible for the storming of the Capitol.
That is what I would call a desperate attempt to scapegoat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
I can't find confirmation that he's been arrested in relation to the Capitol storming, but he is facing charges related to an earlier protest in Utah that is still going through the courts.
So as far as I can tell, Alex is just making up.
The part about him having charges and them being dropped related to this, and he's doing that because of things like what Joel Skousen said on our last episode, that is, if the provocateurs themselves get arrested, they'll be let off because they're in on it with the authorities.
And that's just sort of building up that narrative, but I can't find any evidence of that.
jordan holmes
I still don't understand how they're getting around the fact that, regardless, fuck it, say Antifa did the whole thing.
You guys do still realize that they only followed because it's what they want to do and what you told them to do.
dan friesen
Well, there's a couple of thoughts on this, actually, that come up over the course of this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Without spoiling anything, hypnotism may be involved.
jordan holmes
You know, I should have seen that one coming.
Mass hypnosis.
That's what it was.
dan friesen
Shit.
So, it turns out...
jordan holmes
You just red-pilled me is what it turns out.
dan friesen
Alex has...
I was trying to figure out a way to come up with a pill, but it's just a jelly bean.
Never mind.
Alex is pretending here that he's proven everything.
Everything is...
We got this, man!
It was Antifa and an unnamed fake militia that was going around.
They're working with the feds.
alex jones
We just finished, right before the show went live today, a very powerful special report that details the false flag, how Antifa staged it with some other shadowy paramilitary groups that we're starting to identify that'll be in a report tomorrow.
Because they gotta have a right-wing terror group as well.
So when it comes out, they can blame both groups.
This is about coming after everybody's liberties.
dan friesen
So, Scott, this is how it goes.
This is the way that you explain the fact that there were groups that look...
Almost exactly like your buddies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you might as well just come out and say, if we'd won, I'm happy that the Patriots won, and since we lost, it was all Antifa.
dan friesen
Just say that.
Since the bottom fell out, that was not us.
jordan holmes
Now that it turns out everybody doesn't like this, it wasn't us.
Guess what?
We get it both ways.
Coming, going, forward, backward, we get it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's fine.
We're white.
dan friesen
So the narrative here is being set, and it's fairly well said, I think, by Alex at this point, that it was just these...
Other people.
It's not...
jordan holmes
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
dan friesen
Not me?
Not Trump?
jordan holmes
There's no way that you could pull some sort of visual and audio evidence of me doing exactly the thing that I'm saying that I never did.
dan friesen
It's all the deep state.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And the deep state has a bunch of tendrils.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And some of them are Antifa.
Okay.
Q is also deep state.
jordan holmes
How about Harrison Smith?
Is he deep state?
dan friesen
No, but he wasn't actually even on air.
That was a deep fake.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
That was a big deep fake.
Whoever made that was good.
They must have been working on that one for a long time.
dan friesen
He just pretends that...
I haven't heard Alex talk about that broadcast at all.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's unsurprising.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But look, so you have those deep state actors in the form of Q. Sure.
Antifa.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But there was another group there, and that was the Trump folks.
Yes, they were.
You might be surprised to find out what they were up to.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
This was meant to bring in...
The 25th Amendment, the impeachment of Trump, but it failed because unlike any other football fans or basketball fans or liberals or whoever, even though they had hundreds of paid provocateurs trying to riot, trying to lead this, instead of the Trump supporters, now we have dozens of these videos, were kicking their ass when they attacked the cops and tried to break in the windows.
They got overwhelmed.
dan friesen
So now the narrative is becoming that Trump's people tried to fight off Antifa and Q folks who were trying to storm the Capitol.
jordan holmes
Alright, if you buy that bullshit, get the fuck out of my face forever.
I'm done speaking to anybody who's like, no, no, that's what happened.
Not only did Trump supporters not try and take over the whole fucking country, but they actually tried to stop the takeover of the whole country.
If you say that to me, I will never speak to you again.
dan friesen
They love the Constitution in America so much that they were willing to stand up and fight against these malevolent...
Communist invading forces like Q, Anon people, and Antifa in order to protect the Capitol building that they respect so much.
jordan holmes
Say it to my face.
Say it to my face.
alex jones
I've talked to real army intelligence, highest levels.
I'm not going to say the names of the groups.
Everybody knows the highest level the army is.
Army Special Operations, Delta Force, all that.
I mean, we had live feeds of that when we were there.
They're not like magic people.
They're just like us, but they concur.
This was a failed false flag.
Pipe bombs found outside.
It was meant to be.
Hundreds dead, hostages taken, Q-Tards believing it all.
Q-Tards saying they were going to go take hostages online, but they didn't because the simulation broke down.
Once they actually got there in the real world, it didn't happen.
A lot of it because Patriots fought them off and stopped them.
So an alliance of Q-Tards with Antifa and some shadowy synthetic militia group, the feds control, is what we now know.
dan friesen
So that's, hey, look, that's quite a showdown.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Quite, quite a showdown.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
People still doing the tards.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't like that at all.
jordan holmes
I don't like that at all.
dan friesen
No, and it's kind of interesting that Alex seems to have given himself the green light to say that a lot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
About Q folks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that there's a real sense that he's realized this is not profitable for me at all anymore.
Great way to throw them under the bus.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I can maybe get some of the people back and at the same time...
You know what it feels like to me?
It feels like the relationship between Alex and...
Glenn Beck in 2009, but in reverse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Now Alex is...
I'm not Q. At least I'm not Q. You can hire me for Fox News.
I'm better than some of your fucking hosts.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
Glenn Beck got a lot of mileage and legitimacy out of being like, I'm not Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
At least I'm not him.
dan friesen
Yeah, and now Alex has Q to point to.
He's finally freed himself up to do that.
jordan holmes
That's disgusting.
dan friesen
And I think that it actually works on some people.
You saw flying around on Twitter, all these people being like, I can't believe Alex Jones denied...
some other thing that's farther and more extreme than you that you can be point to be like you know you hate that more yeah yeah yeah no it gets some heat everybody's acting like the tide just came in and everybody's moving up a level and it's unacceptable and I won't fucking allow it no no no so I'm So, after this storming of the Capitol, you know, a lot of people have had some soul-searching.
There have been some people asking difficult questions.
Sure.
And, you know, a lot of conversation has gone around about, like, what it would actually even mean and what it would take to be together as a country again, like, unite and...
Alex is afraid about truth and reconciliation committees.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say we're probably going to have to do something along the lines of the end of World War II combined with de-bathification or, yeah, something like a better version of that for all the white supremacists.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know if you've heard, but John Brennan has called for truth and reconciliation committees.
Has he?
jordan holmes
He would get...
Fucked up.
If there were real truth and reconciliation committees, if there were 100% real ones, we would be fucking decapitating Brennan.
So I doubt he's calling for that shit.
dan friesen
There would be some truth and some reconciliation coming of both directions.
jordan holmes
Brutal, brutal shit to him.
alex jones
By the way, Brennan has now said, if you were a talk show host, a member of Congress, you must come to communist reconciliation things on TV and say you're bad.
But once you do that, then things really collapse.
People cannot do this.
They're following a tried and true communist takeover.
dan friesen
I think that Alex is misreading a headline here.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
So John Brennan didn't say that there needed to be reconciliation.
jordan holmes
Unsurprising!
dan friesen
But I think I found the quote he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Quote, I'll tell you that there can only be reconciliation with repentance.
And I think the single most important thing that Republicans in Congress who helped facilitate this widespread conspiracy theory that somehow the election...
Great.
That was said by Senator Chris Kuntz on Sunday's edition of Face the Nation.
I think that Alex just skimmed a headline that mentioned reconciliation and the host of Face the Nation, whose name is Margaret Brennan.
I would bet that Alex saw the name Brennan and decided that it was John Brennan calling for communist-style reconciliation committees.
jordan holmes
Dan, it is infuriating to me that that happened, and two, that you're good enough to figure out exactly what happened.
That's a frustrating truth.
dan friesen
I think that's what happened.
jordan holmes
It's totally what happened.
dan friesen
It seems on brand for him.
jordan holmes
100% what happened.
dan friesen
To see the name Brennan and just assume it's instead of the host of Face the Nation.
jordan holmes
You are inside his mind to a terrifying degree.
You're fucking Hannibal Lecter, Dan.
You're Hannibal Lecter, and he's the guy from Red Dragon or whatever.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't like to cook, though.
Or at least I'm not good at it.
jordan holmes
Hannibal, but for frozen pizzas.
dan friesen
Actually, to be fair, I have no evidence that Hannibal is good at cooking.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is fair.
dan friesen
There's no, like, reviews of his cooking.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you have to have some sort of talent to cook a brain and eat it to the person.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess so.
And pair it with wine.
So, Barnes, it comes in.
Barnes drops by.
And his entire appearance here on this Sunday episode, this January 10th episode, is that, hey, Q sucks.
He's just there to beat up on Q. Great.
And so he describes it as a psyop, which I have some questions about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
robert barnes
This is the most dangerous time in the history of our constitutional republic.
It faces more risk than it did, frankly, in 1860.
That's the kind of threat that they want to impose by ramrodding using the pretext of this staged event.
That was heavily facilitated by a PSYOP operation of QAnon and with infiltrators and instigators involved as well.
dan friesen
So the thing that I run into when I hear this, they're like QAnon is a PSYOP.
One of the things that really fueled it...
Lately, and in the last year at least, has been Donald Trump retweeting QAnon accounts.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Donald Trump himself giving tacit acknowledgement of and support of this because it, you know, narcissistically feeds his ego or whatever.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I have to ask if Trump is running a psyop on himself?
Is Trump running a PSYOP on you, Robert Barnes?
jordan holmes
I think what's obvious is that Trump is Antifa, Dan.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
And that's why Antifa...
That's who really fucking Antifa-ed us at the Capitol building.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Who...
If Antifa inspired the attack...
The only answer, Dan.
Is Trump.
Is a black bloc.
dan friesen
Sure.
So you had those people there who were looking real mighty scary.
You know, at the Capitol you had the looky-loo types.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The people who were maybe just there to take pictures of themselves.
jordan holmes
Right.
Foot fetishists of AOC.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And then you had terrifying people.
jordan holmes
Right.
Like the foot fetishists of AOC?
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Well, they're terrifying in a different way.
You had the real militia.
looking type people.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so in order to explain this, Alex has already said that this is some militia that's working with the feds.
But now, we get to pivot that over, and that's what the Q people were.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So that explains everything.
jordan holmes
God, I hate this.
robert barnes
Because there were people there with zip ties.
They arrested one of them in Nashville.
So there were people there that had ulterior agendas that misled other people who were partaking, who didn't realize what was happening.
alex jones
Well, I told them, we're Q secret agents under Trump's orders.
And we're going to go in there, and then now...
I heard that day one.
Oh, they told him they were about to get Pelosi and grab the proof.
And then sure enough, oh, there's experts.
Oh, this was done for special ops to get Pelosi's laptop.
I mean, this is so scripted, folks.
If you're online, you pledge allegiance to some made-up letter of the alphabet, and then it tells you to go take over the White House or the Capitol or whatever, you're being set up for death, just like Arlington Road.
Go see Arlington Road.
dan friesen
If you're talking about the people that pledge allegiance to Q being stupid, I would ask you, what about General Flynn and his family?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Who posted a video of themselves pledging allegiance to Q and saying, where we go one, we go all.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
They were manipulating the deep state into thinking that the deep state had manipulated them into believing what the deep state says, and that way they can...
Run this counter, counter, counter, counter coup, which is going on right now, after the first coup from...
I'm so tired, Dan.
I'm just so goddamn tired.
dan friesen
They also posted that video of themselves pledging allegiance to Q on the 4th of July.
jordan holmes
Explain to me what exactly you think is the difference between pledging allegiance to Q and pledging allegiance to Trump.
dan friesen
Not much.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Not much.
jordan holmes
I don't see too much difference between that and pledging allegiance to a fucking flag!
What do we do in pledging allegiance to shit, Dan?
dan friesen
Let's not dissect that now, but I agree patriotism can go astray.
So, Robert Barnes apparently works for Trump.
Apparently.
jordan holmes
Sure, why not?
dan friesen
I don't know if that's true.
jordan holmes
No other lawyer will work for him anymore.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's true, and I don't care, because there are ethical problems whether it's true or not.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
You still should be disbarred for his favor.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
But he...
jordan holmes
Is Larry Klayman free for this one?
dan friesen
He might be.
He might not be able to practice in some states.
But Barnes, I just love this.
We heard this before, and I just wanted to play it because it happened again.
Alex being like, he works for Trump.
He doesn't want me to tell you that.
alex jones
Gentlemen, I do not need to lay out my curriculum vitae or my 27 years of a fight, but I am true to America.
I make mistakes, but I believe in human justice and freedom.
I promote it.
Robert Barnes does not even want it known that he's worked for Trump for months during this election fraud battling at the highest levels or that talks to Trump on a routine basis.
But we're going to put that out now because we're 10 days out from...
The inauguration of Biden.
So...
dan friesen
You're not putting that out now.
You've put that out a bunch already.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
A whole bunch.
A whole bunch.
You're not good at keeping secrets.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Especially when they're made-up bullshit.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Or when they're true.
dan friesen
True, and...
Ethically very not good.
jordan holmes
I don't know too many lawyers who would be like, okay, my client is the President of the United States.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I think it's a good idea for me to have a radio show with Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a good idea for me to moonlight as a pro-Trump propagandist.
jordan holmes
I don't think that is good for the legal profession.
dan friesen
It's iffy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Barnes, I will say, you know, just looking at everything purely, you know, take morals, take just everything out of it.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
He has some accurate points that he makes about QAnon, which, oh, shocking, a lot of people have been saying for a while.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The first thing that he says is not really one of those.
He talks about how this is a brilliant psyop, which I take issue with some of that, but...
robert barnes
Q is a brilliant disinformation campaign that is unique.
If you look at other message boards and posters that claim to be government agents on those message boards, they do not communicate in the way Q did.
So people who study disinformation campaigns very early on were telling me this was not just a sort of conspiracy theorist of people going down a rabbit hole on a random message board.
This was showing signs of a sophisticated disinformation psyops campaign being run by somebody with institutional influence and backing.
dan friesen
I do think that there is a point to be made about how different this is than other things like this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, Pizzagate got to a certain point.
And then it fizzled out.
Now, granted, it sort of metastasized and evolved into what this is.
Sure.
unidentified
But there were a bunch of other attempts at doing something like this on message boards.
dan friesen
And it even goes back to earlier conspiracy times when you'd have people who would have these essentially like...
Huge role-playing things where they would have like...
jordan holmes
No, this is like an augmented reality participatory storytelling thing that a bunch of people are...
You know, it reminds me of Gravity Falls, weirdly enough.
At the end of the cartoon, they had a little like statue.
That was somewhere in the Pacific Northwest.
That's where the show was set.
And then a bunch of fans put together all of these clues together and wound up finding out that it was actually something that they had hidden in real life.
Like this little statue there and they found it.
And it was a bunch of people all working together finding out all of these clues.
And it's functionally the same thing as Q. It's just this time there's nothing at the end of the rainbow but storming the fucking Capitol building.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There are some things like that that are outside of the realms of political conspiracy and propaganda.
And then there are also versions that are conspiracy and internet message board based things that could have turned into stuff like this and made it into an augmented reality kind of thing.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
But it didn't.
I do think that that's fair.
I don't think it makes sense to say that it's brilliant and institutionally supported.
jordan holmes
No, I would even argue that the main reason that it works is because it's kind of stupid.
It's at the level of the people participating in it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's malleable and decentralized to an extent that anything can be anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which is why you don't...
You don't want anybody with institutional control anywhere near it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that when I said that he had a good point, I think it was basically just remembering this next clip.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's him talking about the element of it being like a game.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And a lot of people have talked about that, about how one of the things that makes it so insidious is the way in which...
There's like, you're involved in this.
In the way that, like, that Gravity Falls thing is actually a fun, immersive experience.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
This is a false...
Carrot in front of you on a pole.
jordan holmes
Some people catch Pokemon on the corner and some people find out that there's a secret conspiracy on the corner.
dan friesen
It's the same fucking shit.
And Barnes is now talking about that, but it's something that other people have been talking about and warning about for a long time.
robert barnes
Since the beginning of the fucking thing.
dan friesen
And these people, like Alex and like Infowars, were perfectly happy to...
I guess ignore any of these warnings to the extent that this was possibly profitable.
Let's see if we can exploit some of it.
It's all just supporting Trump.
So like, hey, let's let it be.
But now somebody's got to go under the bus and it's going to be QAnon.
robert barnes
Let's say they were trying to find something in a scavenger hunt and that's what it was.
It was part fiction, part reality.
And they went to a real house where something was hidden or a clue was located for them to find the next clue.
Well, they would go there and they would find, say, three pieces of wood all pointed at a particular part of the wall.
And they'd be like, oh, that can't be a coincidence.
It must be something behind that wall.
When, in fact, it was purely coincidental.
They were seeing patterns that did not exist.
Well, what QAnon brilliantly did...
Was use the questioning technique without ever giving answers.
Use vagueness and ambiguity while appearing to give specific secrets to lead people.
alex jones
Because with Pokemon Go and others, you shift into the VR.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
That VR is a fake template over reality.
So you know reality's real.
You're in a garage.
You're in a gutter.
You're on top of a building.
But then they found people.
If they told them there was a bridge off a building...
Someone would just jump off the building because suddenly there was a bridge there in their overlay through the Pokemon Go.
robert barnes
That's exactly right.
dan friesen
I know that they think that there's a substantial difference between what they do and what they're describing, and I don't think that there is.
jordan holmes
There's none.
dan friesen
I know that factually there's a difference between saying there's a bridge in front of you and then you jump and you fall.
But Alex just tells people that headlines mean something and he's never read the article.
It's the same amount of faith that's being demanded of the people listening.
jordan holmes
He's sufficiently vague about his predictions.
He gives you secrets that aren't really real.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Basically everything he's describing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I used to have bigger teeth.
But now I just grind them every time we do this show.
So now they're much smaller.
dan friesen
You don't even have teeth anymore.
jordan holmes
I don't even have teeth.
unidentified
I just have ground down nubs.
dan friesen
So it turns out Alex, a couple months back, had threatened to reveal who Q is because he knows all of it.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
He never did do that.
It was all just probably an attempt to get attention.
Yeah.
This conversation becomes even sillier.
Knowing that he's pretended that he knows who Q is and he can expose all of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because apparently, I don't know if you know this, Q tried to enlist Robert Barnes.
All right.
jordan holmes
I hate everyone.
robert barnes
And they targeted people who they thought would otherwise be potential active sources of support for crowdsourcing Trump support.
So they looked at people who did independent investigative journalism.
alex jones
Explain this.
They actually approached you.
I don't know if you want to get into this, but...
Not at the Q level, but above that, we're the intel group and we're with Q. Because, again, they give you a virtual reality where you actually think you're fighting for freedom, but you're working for them.
robert barnes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Okay, so...
Now, Barnes, if you are agreeing with Alex when he says that Q tried to enlist you, it now is your all's responsibility to be like, who the fuck are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Who are you talking about?
Provide us the name.
You've already said you can throw them under the bus.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
You could clear up a whole lot, Alex, if you wanted to.
jordan holmes
Oh, if you hate them so much.
I fucking hate these people.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're terrible.
So Alex gets a little bit of breaking news in the middle of this broadcast, and it's not breaking news.
That police officer, the Capitol Police, who died by Sure.
alex jones
All right, this is breaking news.
I'm not ready to give all of it out yet.
I'll do it next segment because I've got one more question from our sources, but we have this from inside the D.C. Police Department.
There has been a high-level suicide of one of the deputy police chiefs.
I'll leave it at that.
They're trying to cover it up.
We don't know if it's actually a cover-up.
They may have killed him in the D.C. Capitol Police.
dan friesen
So Alex is turning this police officer's death into a story where he is said to have committed suicide, but it might be a murder because he happens to be the cop who told the cops to stand down and allow Antifa to attack the Capitol.
So he's basically cast this guy in this role, and it's just disgusting.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine...
Being, like, anywhere near someone who was affected by the Capitol building like that without, like, instantly being like, does anybody have a template for how to sue Alex Jones?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, there should be at this point.
jordan holmes
I haven't heard him say anything yet, but does anybody have, like, a Mad Libs for the way Alex Jones is going to need to be sued for this?
dan friesen
There should be, like, a whole section on LegalZoom.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
Just dedicated to suing Alex for the right shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
There's a drop-down menu, and they'll fill in the rest for you.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, if I were this guy's family, I can't imagine how pissed off I would be.
You trying to imply that someone I cared about, who I just lost...
Just days ago.
Who you fucking killed.
unidentified
It's all suspicious and a conspiracy because he ordered to stand down.
dan friesen
Go fuck yourself, man.
jordan holmes
How cruel.
Keep his fucking name out of your mouth.
dan friesen
I'm not even saying the dude's paying out of respect.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
No.
dan friesen
So anyway, Barnes is still on, and he thinks that that whole thing where everybody was, like, taking the pledge, like Flynn, it was all a setup so they could get a conspiracy charge.
jordan holmes
So I was right about that.
It's a double-double kind of coup.
robert barnes
And that happened starting in the late fall, where the queue was asking people to take oaths, to have them broadcast, videotape themselves taking these oaths, have them broadcast to other people that they were taking these oaths.
And that was beginning to set up basically a future seditious conspiracy allegation against all participants and then try to motivate other ones to become more and more violent because the goal was to feel like this election was everything and whatever happened, that this was the end of the world.
So they would either feel futility and frustration and fear and lash out, or they would convince a portion of them that the insiders on the government and the insiders in the military and the insiders in the intelligence branches really wanted them to take action.
dan friesen
How's that any different than Infowars coverage?
jordan holmes
Dan, I keep repeating in my head, violence is not the answer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because the moment he said, they wanted to make you feel like this election was the end of the world.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The only response that I can...
Like, I went red.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, there was flashing lights behind my eyes.
No, you told me...
dan friesen
Yeah, the devil.
jordan holmes
...that these people are run by the fucking devil, and that if...
Trump loses!
It's the end time!
dan friesen
It's the end of all civilization!
unidentified
It's the end of all things!
dan friesen
Yeah!
No, it's not fair to treat audiences like this.
jordan holmes
You know, it's not...
Look, violence is not the answer, but sometimes it could be part of the answer when it comes to Robert Barnes.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think just get rid of that license of his.
Somebody do something.
That's the solution.
jordan holmes
You can't say that.
dan friesen
You can't.
jordan holmes
I want to write one law for that word specific.
Just for the not infringing upon freedoms of speech whatsoever.
But if you say that before the election...
It's the end of the world if you lose it.
And then after the election, you say, these people were trying to lie to you about that.
You lose something!
You lose something!
A foot!
A hand!
I don't care!
dan friesen
I mean, Barnes would just say, like, I didn't say that.
And maybe that's true.
Unfortunately, you worked for a news organization.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Quote-unquote news organization.
That was their editorial stance, and Alex screamed it on air for months.
So, I don't know.
jordan holmes
It's not even the pot calling the kettle black.
It is just both of them are the fucking kettle.
And they're just arguing with each other.
dan friesen
Who's more kettily.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
You're fucking both kettles.
dan friesen
So Alex has now got confirmation that this cop who has passed away ordered the stand down.
And I don't know where he got this confirmation from, but based on the other news he's reporting, I'm not positive if I'm going to trust this.
alex jones
Let's get down to brass tacks.
I have guests on that actually know stuff.
We don't have to have sources.
Most of the time you and I have people asking us what's going on.
I don't mean that arrogantly.
It's not like there's magic sources here, magic sources there.
We're smart people.
We live this, Bob.
You're smart.
I'm smart.
But absolutely what you said last night is more targets.
I have confirmed.
That a Capitol Police supervisor, the one that ordered the stand-down, has committed suicide.
There is an internal bulletin that at least four governor's mansions in the U.S. have been overrun, governors driven out.
This is not Q crap, this is real.
And that there are more attacks happening in governor's mansions right now, and that there are more attacks planned in the next 24 hours, and that it looks like deep states are using Antifa and program Q-tards who think they're part of an insurrection.
for Trump to actually bring in martial law against us all.
That's why big tech is shutting Trump up ahead of actually declaring martial law and they'll probably kill Trump.
dan friesen
So, Alex is reporting that there were four unspecified governor's mansions that have been overrun and the governors have been fled.
jordan holmes
Dan, what day is today?
dan friesen
Today is the 12th.
We're recording this.
jordan holmes
What day did he say that?
dan friesen
Tenth.
jordan holmes
Okay.
How many governors' mansions?
Four.
All right.
unidentified
So, we're...
dan friesen
You know what happened here?
I think I figured it out.
jordan holmes
So this isn't, like, cute.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
It's not some kind of false reality.
jordan holmes
It is not at all like that.
dan friesen
And he's reporting this as, like, in the present.
jordan holmes
It's happening.
dan friesen
This is happening right now.
I just got an internal bulletin.
jordan holmes
I can't believe they kept that quiet, because I haven't heard anything about it.
dan friesen
I think what he's talking about is on the 6th, there were protests at capitals.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And at governor's mansions.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there were a couple of incidents where governors felt...
Yeah.
And I think that he's taking those bits of information that maybe he didn't know about until this point and pretending that they're happening in the immediate.
That's the only thing I can think of, because otherwise, I would suggest if you're going to report that four governor's mansions have been overrun, you have a deep responsibility to name the states and have a little bit more fucking information about it.
jordan holmes
At least, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But hey, man, it's not a false reality like QAnon.
alex jones
I was working with the president.
For real, you know, not in the fantasy world, not online, not in a lie, but in the real world.
So is Barnes on record.
So I know we're not as cool as the game, but we're in the real world.
We're not in the simulation.
But those that are already in the simulation want you to only worship the simulation.
It's very sick.
It's very sad.
And now I have this horrible news that governor's mansions, a bunch of them have been attacked.
They're using this to go into martial law.
They're not giving up with only ten days left of Trump, nine and a half days, because they want to repudiate everything he did before he leaves.
dan friesen
This story does not evolve over the course of the show, and it is dropped on Monday.
unidentified
Yeah, that makes sense.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Alex is just...
jordan holmes
Unsurprising.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is not jealous of Q, but I think a lot of people are saying that he's jealous of Q. People like me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would also say that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And he has some things to say about people who think that.
alex jones
And by the way, there are all these idiots that send me messages and I see it online.
Jones is jealous of Q. Q took over his audience.
Q gets the money.
I was persecuted for supporting Trump and almost went bankrupt.
I could have co-opted the Q thing.
I tried to be nice to him and educate him.
Don't believe people you don't know.
Don't go to random places.
They didn't listen.
dan friesen
So he could have co-opted them if he wanted to.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Here's him from a year ago talking to Joel Skousen.
jordan holmes
Let's hear it.
alex jones
I was thinking I'm just going to endorse it and then co-opt it publicly and go, oh, Q says this, Q says that, because everybody loves little magic stuff, because it's definitely a delusional issue, and it's sucking up so many good people into it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's thinking about using Q like a puppet.
Q says this, Q says that, and he did.
He did try that.
jordan holmes
Yes, he did.
dan friesen
And it did not work.
jordan holmes
No, it did not.
Which led to him being...
More jealous of King James.
dan friesen
And very frustrated.
Yep.
So Barnes gets down to the, like, really the matter at hand.
He cuts through the bullshit, and this is really what it's about.
robert barnes
Those people who are out there, you know, continue to crowdsource investigative independent research and review, continue to do independent grassroots journalism independent of and separate from and divorced from Q, continue to be proactive and productive, continue to support places like Infowars.
Infowars is the model for independent information and a free press and free speech to stay alive.
dan friesen
That's what it's really about.
It's about transitioning people back from that, you know, making them feel safe and not judged for coming back to Infowars.
Mm-hmm.
Away from Q. Yeah.
Because Q, I don't know if you know this, Chinese operation.
jordan holmes
Great.
robert barnes
Glad to be here.
Anybody's part of Q, you're part of a Chi-Com operation.
Disown Q and return to Americanism.
alex jones
That's right.
It's Manchurian Candidate 2.0.
And folks, we have storable food at the 2020 prices, only a few days left.
dan friesen
Good stuff.
So we got a real scathing broadside attack on Q on this Sunday episode.
And that's most of what it is.
But I think that it's pretty important for Alex to lay this all out because he's got to disavow and get away from the stuff that happened at the Capitol.
And people have got to take a fall for that, and the people that are going to fall are going to be Antifa, who are already villains, and QAnon is now not just some kind of a, hey, it's good, but oh, whatever, it's not the same.
He's not just jealous of it anymore.
They're bad now.
And also, apparently, some hired militia who's unspecified.
But, yeah, so you can get away from that.
And now, when we get to the 11th, which is Monday, I really felt like it's Alex trying to turn to the direction that he's going to be going in.
I felt an amazing return to, like, this is so fucking familiar.
This is, like, right before Obama got elected.
He's just pretending that mere days ago people didn't storm the Capitol.
Yeah, it turns out, like, you know, We've got nine days left until the election.
unidentified
And Antifa, they're going to rule you.
alex jones
Nine days from now, the globalists will be swearing in their installed puppet leader in exactly nine days.
To the minute, basically.
Things kick off at noon Eastern, but they say about 20 minutes in, he'll be sworn in.
Joe Biden, the open communist operative.
And that's why from L.A. to New York to Austin, Texas, Antifa marched to the streets with shields and guns and weapons saying, we own this country, it is ours.
And next they're coming to your houses.
Because by day and by night they're Antifa, but their real job is contact tracers for the Clinton Global Initiative.
On record, these are the graduate students and students.
Who are now your rulers, most of them pedophiles.
dan friesen
So now we just kind of have a more extreme version of how he was trying to scare you about, like, AmeriCorps and, like, civic work programs that Obama wanted to put in place.
It's just kind of the same thing.
It just feels like you're just going to pretend that didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, hey, I'm not going to talk to a Republican about tax rates.
Because I don't care.
Because guess what is underneath that conversation?
I want to kill the left.
So I don't give a fuck.
Don't you dare talk to me about some program.
The end!
The programs are done!
dan friesen
It's hard to engage on any argument.
It's hard to believe that it's really what's...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here's what's being discussed.
You want to kill me.
Now we need to deal with that, and you have nothing.
Like, I don't understand why any Republican is allowed on TV to say anything other than, we're sorry for wanting to kill you all the time.
Because I don't give a shit what they have to say on laws.
I don't give a shit what they have to say on fucking taxes or voting or anything like that.
You guys want to kill me!
dan friesen
I think that the issue is that the ones who do want to kill you don't...
Feel bad about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
So they're not gonna go on TV and say any of that stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, guess what?
That's the only thing that other people get to talk about.
All Republicans only get to talk about...
How they want to kill us.
That's the only questions I have for them.
dan friesen
It's an interesting policy.
I don't think the media is going to take you up on this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm not surprised because they're also failing us in this regard as well.
dan friesen
So, speaking of media that's failing, Alex is failing himself and reality.
But the reason that he's able to, I think, try to pull off moving back towards just making you afraid of Joe Biden is that he's just decided that, hey...
That whole thing at the Capitol was Antifa and Q, and we tried to stop it.
We're the good guys.
alex jones
Those are terrorists.
They don't hate the police.
They want to be the police.
And they're the ones that went, over 100 of them on record, you know their names, dressed up like Trump supporters.
Trump supporters tried to stop them breaking the Capitol.
Once they broke in, there was another contingent of morons there.
We've tracked it to 8chan and all the sites.
dan friesen
So yeah, all of it is just that.
All the good patriots, they tried to stop them.
It didn't work out.
They were the ones who looked like they were Trump supporters or just people in disguise.
It's no big deal.
We're still the heroes.
We're the oppressed.
We're the aggrieved.
We're even more aggrieved because they tried to make us look bad by storming the Capitol.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no moving forward until all of these people.
I'll admit that they lied.
That's it.
Like, honestly, there's no change to Alex's programming unless he, like...
There's no change to those people listening to him unless Alex has to say he's a liar.
Unless Laura Ingraham has to say she's a liar.
Unless Lou Dobbs has to go on TV and say to the world, I lied to you because I want money.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I don't think that even that would be that helpful.
I mean, it would be nice because maybe it would ruin their careers.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's not going to solve anything, but nothing's going to change until that happens.
dan friesen
But I also don't think anything will change after that.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, then we can start with other sh**.
dan friesen
That's the first step, though.
jordan holmes
These media figures have to have some sort of accountability for their bullshit, because they're the ones who inspired this.
dan friesen
I agree that there should be some accountability, and maybe they wouldn't be able to work anymore if they had to admit that they lied.
And that might be a positive.
However, they just get replaced by somebody else who's craven.
jordan holmes
But at least they would know that eventually you have to admit you're lying.
unidentified
Well, yes.
jordan holmes
Eventually.
dan friesen
Once people storm the Capitol, you will be forced to admit you.
jordan holmes
Sooner or later, you have to admit.
You're a liar.
At least you know that's in your head, because these people aren't going to.
dan friesen
Enjoy your run.
Enjoy, you know, it's going to be all gravy until people have an insurrection.
jordan holmes
It's just like Trump.
Like, hey, I get it.
You got what you got.
I'm sorry government and everybody failed and allowed you here, but this can't happen.
This can't happen.
dan friesen
Well, I'm of the opinion that even if those media figures were to come out and be like, I lied because I was trying to make money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It wouldn't matter that much because the audience wouldn't be disillusioned.
They'd just be like, well, I've got to find someone new.
This person sold out or something.
And Alex has the same complaint about the Q people.
alex jones
And you're still saying Trump will be in office in nine days.
Well, let's sit back and watch.
And I know you Q folks aren't going to go away even once that happens because you bought into a lie.
Just like you sent the Nigerian email scammer that first $1,000 and your family says that's a scam.
They need $5,000 more.
You'll never get that either.
No!
I'll get a million now when I send Prince Abubu the $5,000.
And after you've sent everything you've got to the scammers, you'll hate your family for warning.
But it doesn't matter.
We're going to move on from that.
dan friesen
I think Alex got tricked by those emails.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He is right.
They will hate your family for warning you.
unidentified
I am aware of that type of situation.
dan friesen
So, I always enjoy it when Alex gets in reporter mode, and he reports things that were brought to his attention by his wife's tennis partner.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Hard-hitting scoops.
Sure.
In this next clip, we get some second- or third-hand information from somebody who works in security for Alex who heard something from his mother.
And now Alex is reporting it on air as news.
alex jones
I talked to one of our security guys, bonded security, armed security, that we have here at the office, and his mom is one of the head nurses at a nursing home.
And she said, wow.
They gave all the old people the shots, and now a bunch are sick, and none of them are getting up and coming to eat?
They just got the shots last week, and they're real lethargic, and they're worried they're going to start dying.
So I'll tell you next week...
I'll tell you next week how many...
How many are dead.
dan friesen
How about you not talk about this until next week, then?
Because the number could be zero.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You dick.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Oh, no, but then you won't spend the next week in fear of the number not being zero.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, but it's so important because my security guy talked to his mom and I heard this third hand that I've got to try to make you scared of something that may or may not happen.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
Sounds right.
dan friesen
But I think Alex is probably only reporting this because of his media diet.
He read something in the Ron Paul Institute's website that is important.
alex jones
A nursing home at zero coronavirus deaths.
Then it vaxed state residents for coronavirus and deaths began.
Ron Paul Institute.
dan friesen
So this article is about a nursing home around New York called The Commons on St. Anthony.
The most recent report from CNY Central is the number of deaths there at 32 since December 21st, which is when an outbreak of COVID-19 began.
The outbreak predates the first vaccinations.
Many residents and staff received the first dose of the vaccine on December 22nd, and the second doses weren't begun until January 12th.
It's an interesting case here where the actual line that Alex says might not actually be factually inaccurate, but it's still a lie.
It may well be the case that the deaths began after the vaccination started, but the headline is being used by people like Alex and like Ron Paul to suggest that there's a causal relationship there.
this story is not interesting to Alex except as a means to convince his audience the vaccines are a deadly plan from the globalists so he wouldn't be covering the story unless the message you're supposed to take from it is that vaccines killed the people in the commons and that's just not earned that story that's that information is not there to be Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But that's why you gotta listen to your security guy's mom, or maybe the security guy making stuff up about what his mom said.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I despair for the possibility of anyone learning anymore.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
It's just not gonna happen.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
And I'd like to convince you even more of that.
jordan holmes
I can't wait, because I have got nothing but bad news on that front, Dan.
dan friesen
Because...
It's over for humanity.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you.
dan friesen
There will only be lone survivors.
jordan holmes
I knew he was back!
I said it earlier, fuck yeah.
dan friesen
You did call it.
jordan holmes
Now that it's over for that...
Oh, fuck all of these people!
Fuck all of these people!
dan friesen
Well, Mike Adams, the health ranger, noted rapper...
Weirdo, Ebola curer.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Yes, he did cure Ebola, that's true.
dan friesen
He was sort of exiled from InfoWars because he had an approach to the pandemic after a while.
Right.
People should take this seriously.
This is not good.
jordan holmes
It should be boiled down to, a lot of people are going to die if people keep saying the shit that I used to say.
dan friesen
He joined up with Alex for quite a while in doing COVID denialism and COVID paranoia, alternatingly.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then they had a little bit of a disagreement, and he was not seen for quite a while.
jordan holmes
Quite a while.
dan friesen
He is back, because now it's time to just complain about Biden, and the two of them can do that just fine.
jordan holmes
All day.
alex jones
Joining us is Mike Adams at NaturalNews.com.
Appreciate him coming on with us.
He's written an excellent article, 25 Insane Crazy Agendas.
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will push on America if they seize power after rigging the election.
Mike, thanks for joining us.
What is your big takeaway about the state of the nation and where we are and what's unfolding before we come back next segment and get into your report?
dan friesen
I would expect, if this is happening, that the two of them should really get into and discuss what their differences were and why he hasn't been on for so long.
But I guess we'll just pretend that didn't happen.
Let's pretend that we didn't learn who was right.
Because he had factually different...
Nah, nah, it's fine.
It wasn't opinions.
jordan holmes
No, it was opinions, because they were both making everything up.
dan friesen
That could be.
Yeah.
So, Mike is thinking that maybe Trump, right?
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
So, maybe he doesn't want to be president.
Again, not of America.
Maybe he wants to start a new country.
jordan holmes
I'm removing feet.
mike adams
Trump has a very, very narrow window of opportunity to stop this now, but Alex, for all we know, Trump may have...
He may have thrown in the towel at this point and said, you know what?
The swamp is too deep to drain.
You can't fix the system from the inside.
That is probably true.
I'll give you that.
To really fix America is to let the corrupt system implode and fail and crater and then start a new system on the other side.
That may be what he's thinking.
We don't know.
dan friesen
He may be thinking, let's start a new confederacy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does kind of sound like what he would be thinking right now.
dan friesen
And what you guys are desperately hoping he's thinking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm kind of getting to the point where I'm like, yeah, you guys should go somewhere else.
All of you.
dan friesen
I don't think...
I don't know where.
I understand that thought, but I just don't think it's functional.
jordan holmes
There's uninhabitable places in Australia that could use a lot of Republicans, Dan.
dan friesen
You meant uninhabited, but you said uninhabitable.
jordan holmes
No, I did mean uninhabitable, and that's where Republicans should go.
And maybe they can terraform it.
We could send them to Mars, and then we could move.
dan friesen
We've got options, Dan.
I understand there's some of that elusive free market over there.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of manpower that we're wasting that could be on Mars, leaving us alone.
dan friesen
So, Mike is on, but he has a little bit of a time window, and that's because Trump is supposed to give a speech in the middle of when this episode is on, and it doesn't end up happening because it gets pushed back, and then there's a speech for the next day at Alamo.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's not the Alamo, it's Alamo, Texas.
robert barnes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is all very confusing, and it plays out over the course of this episode.
jordan holmes
That did not happen.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We did not have a city version of the fucking Four Seasons.
dan friesen
It's not for sure, because Alamo, Texas is also like a border town, and so there's a possibility...
That that still feeds into the messaging that Trump would want to send with the border.
jordan holmes
It should absolutely, his time in public should begin and end with being racist towards our southern border.
dan friesen
You would think.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
But also, you would expect that he would want to give a speech at the Alamo.
jordan holmes
Yes, you would!
Just like he would want to give a speech at the Four Seasons Hotel.
dan friesen
Right, right.
It does seem like a pattern.
Anyway, this speech, Mike doesn't think it's going to be anything big.
alex jones
Trump's set to speak in about 30 minutes.
What do you think he's going to say?
mike adams
Well, I have no idea what he's going to say because all the options are on the table.
I suspect it's going to be kind of wishy-washy because he's still got a week or more in office and he's still got options on the table.
And there are a lot of things that can happen, so I suspect he's not going to concede, but he's also not going to commit.
You know, I'm sad to say, but we'll have to wait and see.
dan friesen
He doesn't need to concede, and he's already accepted that he's lost.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't...
jordan holmes
I don't care what he does at all, as long as he's quiet.
dan friesen
So, you know who Mike doesn't want to be quiet?
That's Pompeo.
jordan holmes
No, he should absolutely be quieted.
dan friesen
No, it turns out that he wants Mike Pompeo to seize a bunch of URLs.
jordan holmes
Oh, what if he instead got sent to Mars?
dan friesen
No, well, I guess that would be fine as long as from Mars he has a Wi-Fi connection and he can seize Amazons.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I want that.
mike adams
What I do want to mention, Alex, is that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has a move that he could make right now.
To fight back against this big tech de-platforming of Parler and other conservative platforms and individuals.
Mike Pompeo could order the State Department to seize the domain names of Amazon.com, Google.com, Facebook.com, YouTube, Twitter, and so on.
Seize the domain names and charge those companies with acting as part of a foreign cyber warfare attack on the United States of America to rig our elections.
dan friesen
Yeah, that'd go well, I think.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's a good idea.
I think people would respond positively towards that.
I think it would give everybody peace of mind.
dan friesen
Yeah, the government is taking over some of the largest websites as a hostile action.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's good.
dan friesen
Ten days, nine days before a president who lost an election is supposed to go out of office, his State Department is attacking...
Yeah, that'd be good.
That'd be awesome.
jordan holmes
I'm liking everything Pompeo's doing right now.
It's really great.
I love the way he's trying to convince people that it'd be a good idea for him to be president someday.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Good work.
dan friesen
So, Mike Adams, the health ranger, might not have gotten the memo that Alex hates QAnon now.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Because he's coming in with some Q shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
mike adams
He's got material that he could declassify.
We know they have.
Sidney Powell routinely spoke about the information.
You know, the Kraken details from the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion, that wasn't just fiction.
dan friesen
So Sidney Powell submitted information in an affidavit that was supposed to be provided by an anonymous source that she had codenamed Spider with a Y. Unfortunately, she did a bad job of redacting her documents, so she accidentally doxed her source, who's an IT consultant named Joshua Merritt.
He claimed to be in the military intelligence, working in the 305th Battalion, but that's all bullshit.
Merritt was never an intelligence analyst and didn't even make it through the appropriate training courses in the army.
When confronted about this statement and the fact that it's clearly not true, he basically said that he hadn't really read the statement he signed before signing it, which raises a whole lot of questions about who in Powell's team wrote it.
jordan holmes
Doesn't that mean that you...
unidentified
Can't you be, like, barred or something?
jordan holmes
Held in contempt?
Put Sidney Powell in jail!
dan friesen
So, part of the recent QAnon lore is that this 305th Battalion, nicknamed the Kraken, had raided the server host in Germany, and they'd seized a bunch of evidence of election fraud and proof that, like, the CIA was involved and shit.
This naturally all traces back to a Facebook post by some random QAnon follower making shit up.
That's the story that Powell's affidavit was looking to reinforce by way of assigning the story to a meant-to-be anonymous person in military intelligence.
The story is shit when you know that it's just coming from a QAnon Facebook account, but if you can pretend that there's some real deep insider named Spider, you can make more people like Mike Adams buy it.
Anyway, the point here is that people like Alex and Mike want whatever benefit they can derive from believing the same stuff that Q followers do, and they want to use the same sources of information that QAnon people do.
But they want to pretend that they're somehow above it, and it is pathetic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the only...
Like, when people are tweeting like, I can't believe Alex turned on Q. Believe it, but also what we should be doing is sowing as much division between the two as possible while recognizing that both of them are complete liars and full of shit.
I want Q people and info warriors to fight on the streets.
dan friesen
And they will on their own.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
You don't have to do anything for them to end up at loggerheads.
jordan holmes
I know, but it'd be fun to fan the flames a little bit.
dan friesen
It's interesting because it really felt like there was an opportunity after the 6th where they could get past whatever differences they had.
But instead, it seems like there's now an irrevocable...
Difference.
jordan holmes
Oh, you would think that until next week when they all decide that there is no difference between them and it's all fine.
dan friesen
I think that some groups could end up finding common ground, but I don't think Alex and Q are going down that road.
We'll see.
So, Mike, he's learned that some hackers, some liberal hackers, have gotten all the data from everybody who's ever done anything with Parler.
jordan holmes
I imagine he would be worried about that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I bet.
mike adams
There's credible information coming out today that then left-wing black hat cyber hackers have been able to hack through the authentication system that ran Parler and that they are right now downloading enormous amounts of data from Parler users, perhaps including the driver's licenses and metadata, geolocation data that people had uploaded.
That's a breaking story right now.
I've been getting that from multiple sources.
dan friesen
It's my understanding, reading up on this, that this is not accurate at all.
This is an exaggeration of what happened.
And it's just what people had posted on Parler.
People were able to archive.
Not that you had access to all the people's driver's licenses and shit.
I did try to sign up for a parlor account because I wanted to follow people like Alex.
And it had those kind of requirements.
I'm like, fuck no.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
jordan holmes
Good God, no.
Why would I...
Why would you...
If you're a Nazi, why would you give somebody your driver's license?
Right.
That's insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it's like the same people who are all up in arms about, like, gun registration.
unidentified
Insane.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, I also had a picture of my driver's license to get a place where I can tweet violently.
jordan holmes
Just insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so, like, I understand why there are...
And I think that the reason that that embellishment works really well for someone like Mike is that it allows them to talk about this kind of stuff.
mike adams
They are going to go door-to-door.
There are going to be death squads under a Biden-Harris administration.
jordan holmes
Cool.
mike adams
And they're going to try to literally carry out a genocide against conservatives across America.
dan friesen
So because they took all the information from Parler, they got all the addresses of everybody, now Biden's going to take Antifa and they're going to go door-to-door death squatting.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Dan, I have a question for you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
It's bad what happened on the 6th, right?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
According to Alex.
And this.
Because it's Antifa provocateurs.
dan friesen
Well, everything until that point was good, though.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Now, if you don't want that to happen, I would say you would not use inflammatory language towards your political opponents.
Right.
But if you did want that to happen again...
dan friesen
You might.
jordan holmes
You would say that your political opponents were planning on murdering you and that, you know, I'm not saying that he's immediate...
I didn't say that he just said, hey, we should go storm the Capitol building again.
But if I was somebody who believed things like say that...
Biden and Kamala Harris will be sending death squads to my house door to door.
I might think maybe what I need to do is get a bunch of friends together and go storm the fucking Capitol building!
dan friesen
Well, you've arrived at the thesis of my...
Neighbors.
It's only five, but neighbors.
jordan holmes
I'm just a little tense, Stan.
Right.
dan friesen
I understand.
And it's weird because you could hear a lot of the stuff that they're talking about and be like...
Do you not recognize what, like, what world we're living in now?
He's like, listen to this.
This could have been on his show in, like, 2010.
mike adams
Yeah, absolutely.
And I've even, I've got a contact, a very reputable former military contact on the ground in Maryland today texted me and said...
They are setting up the FEMA operation there in Maryland, a specific county I don't want to name, setting up tents and emergency equipment.
alex jones
I've had Army Special Operations current call and confirm they are preparing for gun confiscation.
They are preparing FEMA camps right now.
mike adams
Yep, yep.
They are setting it all up.
This is all in place.
dan friesen
We're back.
We're back to this.
jordan holmes
It's happening again.
We've talked a bunch over the years about taking them off the air and whether or not yada, yada, yada.
This needs to be taken off the air immediately.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's outrageous.
jordan holmes
Immediately.
dan friesen
It's outrageous because it is the exact kind of behavior that would incite people towards the sort of behavior that we saw last week.
jordan holmes
No, off the air now, immediately.
dan friesen
And it's so intentional.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
It's absolutely...
jordan holmes
Absolutely intentional!
You are very clearly setting the stage for another of the same thing that you're pretending you didn't fucking want in the first place, and it needs to be off the air immediately.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, let's go back to the terrorist edging analogy.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
You know, it doesn't work if you let everything go back to normal.
You've got to turn the temperature back up pretty quickly, and that's what we're seeing here.
We're seeing the exact same things that Alex always does, just as if...
That event didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because to Alex, it didn't.
jordan holmes
It was Antifa.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was all fake.
dan friesen
It wasn't the natural...
jordan holmes
It's not my fault.
dan friesen
It wasn't the natural result of this kind of rhetoric where they're going to put us in camps and go door to door and kill our families.
jordan holmes
I'm a good person.
I absolutely am not at least partially responsible for the deaths of multiple people.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's definitely not Alex Jones' fault.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Because...
dan friesen
It was Q and Antifa working together at the behest of the deep state.
jordan holmes
No, he's absolutely directly, partially responsible for the deaths of all of those people.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Listen, they're very clear about this.
They don't want any violence.
jordan holmes
Should be arrested.
dan friesen
They don't want any violence.
jordan holmes
100% should be arrested and charged with conspiracy.
dan friesen
Jordan, they don't want any violence.
mike adams
I just want to reiterate to everybody here, you know, never initiate violence.
We always have the right to self-defense.
alex jones
But if all those commanders engage in violence against the American people, they're a general.
A general is more in command than a private that pulls the trigger.
They must be held accountable.
mike adams
Well, I hope that Trump will announce shortly, although I doubt it, but I hope that Trump would say, we are in a state of war.
We are now enemy-occupied territory, and that Trump would invoke every American citizen to defend the republic.
I hope that's what he says, but I don't think he will.
alex jones
Well, I mean, let's be clear.
I'm saying...
If they start arresting and gun confiscating and killing patriots, the generals that are running this, they've started the war.
I'm all about defensive defense.
I'm not about offense, but Americans need to know that these guys are already violent, the Nuremberg Cove, the Geneva Convention.
With the forced inoculations they're trying to push, they've already put us under COVID martial law, and it's clear they're going to make their move, Mike.
dan friesen
I'm not about offense, but all defense is actually, or all offense is really actually defense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No violence offensively, but all violence will be justified.
No.
jordan holmes
I am challenging the Health Ranger to a fight.
dan friesen
Oh, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Don't do this.
Whomever wins gets to storm the Capitol building, Dan.
unidentified
Don't do this.
No.
dan friesen
I will not sponsor this fight.
jordan holmes
I can't believe that this is...
dan friesen
I know, I was listening to this episode and I'm like, is this, like, from two years ago?
jordan holmes
No, this legitimately...
dan friesen
Do they recognize...
Like, it doesn't feel like they're living in a world where people just stormed the fucking Capitol building.
jordan holmes
No, nope, nope, nope.
I mean, you either have to completely lie to yourself or you're a complete psychopath.
dan friesen
I think it's the latter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it has to be.
And it's just, like...
That's just shit that you can't...
We can't have this.
They're doing it again.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's outrageous.
jordan holmes
I feel like I'm losing my mind.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Mic down for this, because you're going to feel like you're losing...
jordan holmes
Mic down for the rest of the show.
dan friesen
Yes.
alex jones
You're out.
dan friesen
You're going to feel like you're losing your mind a bunch more.
mike adams
Yeah, it is really happening, and the way you can survive it, because perhaps about 10% of the human population will make it through, is you have to be entirely self-reliant, off the grid as much as possible.
You need to be able to grill your own food and to defend yourself and then survive the onslaught of the mass illegal immigration that's coming, the Chinese troops that are going to invade at some point, the government jackbooted thugs that Biden's going to unleash against Americans.
alex jones
And they won't invade.
They're already calling them helpers.
They're visiting helpers.
mike adams
That's right.
That's right.
And, by the way, they're going to attack the churches.
Just like communist China, they're going to try to burn down the churches.
And arrest the pastors who don't go along with the globalist agenda.
So if your pastor is truly teaching the word of Christ, he or she will be under attack.
If they're telling you to surrender, then they will be allowed to exist.
alex jones
So we've got to have underground churches, underground farming.
Everybody needs to understand now.
We're losing the country.
We're going under long-term globalist occupation.
The Republicans didn't know what hit them.
mike adams
Gorilla food farming is going to be a very big thing.
Smuggling seeds.
alex jones
It'll be just like growing marijuana.
Growing tomatoes, growing pumpkins, growing squash, growing...
Everything's going to be under the radar now.
mike adams
Including money, by the way, because the dollar will collapse.
Money will move to alternative systems, including crypto systems.
alex jones
And by the way, folks, I'm sorry to tell you this, but this is the world government takeover we warned you about.
It's now here.
They're coming to kill you and your family.
Sorry, folks.
I didn't make it up.
I mean, they mean business.
Bill Gates wants to kill you.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
I don't know how you can behave in this way after an event like what we saw.
I just don't know how you can allow yourself to behave this way.
It's so inciting.
jordan holmes
I am just reminding myself of something that the great thinker Robert Barnes once said.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Which is that...
They made these people feel like that election was the end of the world.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
The most important thing that ever happened, and that's how they convinced them.
dan friesen
I remember when Q was talking about smuggling seeds.
jordan holmes
I remember all of those things being very important just a short period of time ago.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's almost jarring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't...
I mean, I just genuinely don't know how to, like...
I'm shaking.
I'm just shaking.
I'm in constant...
Something needs to happen.
I can't do anything right now.
I'm listening to him speak, and I'm like, how much is a flight to punch Robert Barnes in the face?
dan friesen
What does it take?
Shouldn't you want to punch Mike Adams?
jordan holmes
Sure!
Get them all in the same...
Put them in a line!
dan friesen
Put them in a line!
jordan holmes
I'll walk down it!
dan friesen
Look, I know that you're frustrated with Mike, but...
jordan holmes
He just told me.
That only 10%...
Oh, he's right!
They should go underground.
We'll dig a giant hole beneath Texas.
We'll put them all in there.
And then just close it up.
And then the mole people will eventually come to the surface and take us over.
dan friesen
That's too similar to FEMA camps.
jordan holmes
No, they'll take us over.
I understand.
The Morlocks will rise once more.
dan friesen
Look, you might be mad at Mike, but this is the last time, maybe, that he'll ever be able to come on InfoWars.
alex jones
Mike Adams, you're dead on.
We are not...
Exaggerating one centella.
It's frankly worse than you even said, worse than I could describe.
And I just won't lie to the public.
This is the Megaton attack.
This is the big assault.
People better get ready.
mike adams
Yeah, absolutely.
And if I could just say on a personal note, because for all we know, this may be the last time I can ever even appear on your show.
Who knows?
But on a personal note, Alex, I'm one of the very few people in the world who I think can have just an inkling of an understanding of the personal sacrifice that you have made.
In order to continue to express your voice and to fight for humanity.
And Trump has made the greatest sacrifice.
I've been vilified and I've had a sacrifice, but not to the extent that you have.
And I just want to thank you for holding the line and speaking for humanity.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He wants to thank Alex for speaking for humanity.
On behalf of humanity, at least my section of it, which is my person, I'd say that Alex doesn't speak for me.
Yeah, this is a mess.
Also, you can't say stuff like, we're not embellishing at all when you're talking about death squads coming door to door to have a genocide on conservatives if Biden gets into office.
You're playing with fire.
This is not acceptable.
jordan holmes
No, they're trying to do it, but bigger this time.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
They're trying to do the sixth, but bigger this time.
And the fact that we're allowing this to happen as though that this is fine is insane because it's getting people killed.
dan friesen
And, Jordan, they're laying down the preemptive justification by saying that, like, oh, Q and Antifa, they're planning to do...
That's why Alex isn't going to go to the inauguration on the 20th.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Like, they're planning to do more and do the same thing.
It's just...
jordan holmes
They're killing people.
As they speak words, people are dying due to them.
We have to deal with that.
dan friesen
The reality is that, you know, Trump might get a second term.
Maybe.
Tiny bit.
And if he does, maybe they'll get some of the things they wanted.
mike adams
If we survive this, then we are the real media for America.
Because if Trump gets a second term, if he pulls this out somehow that we don't yet know, he would take down.
Probably.
alex jones
Well, that's the thing.
He's been surrounded.
They've ignored him.
His spirit was good.
He did so much good.
And everybody got mad at him that he wasn't perfect.
Well, they're about to find out with Biden what Trump was holding back.
mike adams
Well, yeah.
And also, I mean, I've got very good, incredible intelligence that Trump has been threatened with detonations of dirty bombs and nukes and all kinds of things.
And, you know, Trump doesn't want to see America turned into a radioactive wasteland.
alex jones
Oh, he looks so strong at Wednesday's speech.
So defiant.
They don't like me!
I'm so strong!
He looked like a superhero up there.
I'm serious.
unidentified
I'm a superhero who whines a lot about evil!
dan friesen
This is great.
Mike's like, yeah, if Trump somehow magically manages to get a second term, he'll finally do the things we want him to do.
And then Alex is like, yeah, you know, the only reason he's disappointing is because he was under threat.
Mike's like, yeah, they were going to nuke cities.
Get the fuck out of here.
Grow up.
jordan holmes
Man, if Trump holds public office again, I'm storming the Capitol building by myself.
That's what I'm doing.
I don't want anybody else there.
It's just me against the government.
dan friesen
Just banging your head against the wall.
jordan holmes
Yep, that's all I'm doing.
I don't care.
dan friesen
So, Trump needs to give an emergency broadcast, according to Alex.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then we get into some secession talk.
I think that they want to secede.
jordan holmes
Good, good.
alex jones
He's an Oval Office.
Not a farewell address, but an emergency address saying, Biden's a Chinese agent, here's the evidence.
He's going to cut our power off.
This is a foreign takeover.
The governors must mobilize.
You must have a constitutional convention, whatever you've got to have.
America's under attack.
He must raise the alarm.
He must just tell it like it is.
mike adams
Exactly right.
And if, for whatever reason, he is unable to do that, then the American people need to make it known to Biden and Harris and Pelosi and others.
That we the people do not consent to your tyranny, to your rigged elections, to your fraud, your false flag operations.
We do not consent.
In fact, we withdraw our consent from you, and we the people will declare a new independence, I believe, all across this country.
We will set up a new government.
dan friesen
Maybe starting by storming the Capitol building.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going to have to go with, this is fucked.
dan friesen
I know, it's...
jordan holmes
This is fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The thing that's really difficult about this is that we've heard talk like this on Infowars a bunch over the years, but never in the aftermath of something like what happened last week.
That should be a wake-up call for people, particularly people like Alex, that, hey, shit can happen, and you need to be careful.
You can't talk like this.
You can't say that Trump needs to get into an emergency broadcast where he calls...
Biden, a terrorist Chinese agent.
And if not, then we need to send a message that we're not going to consent to be governed anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I can't think of any way to send a message better than storming the Capitol building.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But I guess that wasn't good enough is what Mike Adams is saying.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So there we go.
dan friesen
Mike is a real fucked up dude.
And Alex is really fucked up too.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But again, he just wants...
I mean, largely, it's about selling food for him.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
And get your storable food now.
I've ordered more storable food, and I'm not going to lie to you.
I've already started moving and put the trailer up as we speak.
Because I had a feeling Trump was going to have it stolen from him.
I'm already moving outside Austin.
unidentified
Good.
alex jones
And already dug a well, the solar panels, and all of it going in.
jordan holmes
What's your address?
alex jones
Because this place is all going to be like when Christ...
Pointed and said in 70 years, there won't be one stunt on the other.
Titus sacked it 70 years later.
I mean, I'm just telling you, none of this is going to be here anymore.
dan friesen
All the cities will be gone, so buy your storable foods.
Yeah, Alex keeps having very different stories about whether or not he has this bunker set up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't care.
Anyway, we get into more secession talk when we come back from break.
And Mike, what he wants to do is he wants Texas, right?
Because they're cool.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He wants them.
To force social media companies to have like a million dollar fine every time they censor somebody to put them out of business.
And also, he wants Texas to make their own money.
mike adams
Texas could also pass new legislation or even via a governor executive order to say that any instance of censorship by big tech against a citizen of Texas will result in a one million dollar fine against big tech.
And then Texas could use that...
Well, it would very quickly be at least a trillion dollars in fines.
Texas could, to defy the rigged election, Texas could launch its own currency.
And remember, Texas has its own gold repository that it constructed a few years ago.
Texas could launch its own currency so that people, and this could happen in any other state, I'm just using Texas as an example, so that the people could conduct e-commerce and transactions in an honest money system owned by the people rather than the fake fiat currency that Biden will use To hand out more bribes and kickbacks to governors like Cuomo and Newsom and so on.
dan friesen
It's a great idea.
Let's have states make their own money.
jordan holmes
Dan, have we ever had a situation in American history where different communities printed their own money?
dan friesen
It gets very confusing pretty fast.
jordan holmes
Did it work last time?
dan friesen
It didn't.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
I think we just didn't try it hard enough.
dan friesen
I think that that's what they think about the Confederacy.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Because it really sounds like they just want another Confederacy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
As you know, Mike, even foreign governments and the IMF World Bank say only Texas could lead a successful breakaway because of its energy, its oil, its infrastructure, and a large constellation of states from Arizona to the west or New Mexico to Colorado to Oklahoma to Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Florida.
It would just be instant.
Texas could reconstitute the republic.
mike adams
Well, absolutely.
There's a mechanism for doing that.
Texas could elect.
A new president of the new United States and bring together Louisiana, Oklahoma, Kansas, and other states that want to participate, and then Texas could order its citizens to stop paying federal income taxes to Washington, D.C. And by the way, this was done before.
alex jones
We can do it right now.
dan friesen
So, yeah, this doesn't sound like a good plan.
jordan holmes
So, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So, if I understand correctly.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'd love to hear you break down.
I mean, I don't want to hear you break down.
I'd like you to break that down.
jordan holmes
No, I'll break down off end.
dan friesen
I'm already watching you break down.
jordan holmes
I'll break down later.
So, Texas is going to declare a new president.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
And then!
So, the United States government is going to watch Texas declare itself a foreign power.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Alright.
And then they're going to be like, well, of course you can have Louisiana and Florida, naturally, because, you know, they would...
dan friesen
And Colorado would be thrilled to join up.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
And then they're going to get territory and money from a...
dan friesen
Oh, I mean, I imagine trade relations would be really wonderful.
jordan holmes
Have they ever met the United States?
dan friesen
I feel like there's some issues that they might not be considering.
Well, I mean, there's that.
And I think you make a great point.
But I also think that there's just logistical issues that they might not be considering.
jordan holmes
Oh, like what?
dan friesen
Trade?
jordan holmes
Like trade?
No, no, no, no.
They're going to be able to sell their oil to foreign powers immediately.
There's no way that they couldn't just immediately start exporting oil.
There's no kind of United States that would be like, hey, that's our money, so we'll block you from selling this oil because it's ours.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's some problems with this.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
But you know what?
They've got the biggest issue taken care of already, and that is who should be the new president.
jordan holmes
Oh, good.
mike adams
But it's going to be states like Texas and like...
You know, Idaho and Wyoming and so on that are going to really lead, I think, the new society out of the collapse of the old corrupt America swamp, the old empire that's just being looted in its final hour by Democrats.
And maybe you're right, you know, maybe Trump doesn't want to be at the helm when that happens.
Trump would rather lead the new America out of darkness with a whole new honest money system, for example, and new laws.
Written for the people, by the people, rather than for the corrupt criminals that are in the Senate and the GOP.
And by the way, I'm now part of the Never GOP movement.
I will not vote for any member of the GOP ever again, unless their name is...
unidentified
Bullshit!
mike adams
So, that's my statement.
dan friesen
Only Trump.
jordan holmes
Bullshit!
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
Um, yeah.
This is fucked up.
You know what?
I was listening to this and I was like, is Mike Adams more fucked up than I remember him being?
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
Maybe it's just because I haven't heard him in a long time, but he seems really fucked up.
jordan holmes
I mean, he did say that there would only be lone survivors in the past.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that makes total sense.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
That's exaggerating a medical situation in order to help sell survival food and shit.
That makes total sense.
jordan holmes
Now he's just calling for open secession and the end of the United States.
dan friesen
In the aftermath of people storming the Capitol building.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
That's the part that doesn't make sense to me.
This doesn't even work for what InfoWars is trying to do.
jordan holmes
Here's my vibe from all of them right now, which is that they are a bunch of whiny babies who want to take their ball and go home after they saw that they lost.
And unfortunately, it's not their fucking ball.
You don't get to just go away.
dan friesen
And their home is shared.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
We all fucking live there, so you have to deal with it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's maddening.
jordan holmes
My politics are not divisive, Dan.
You're trying to murder me.
There's a difference.
dan friesen
So Mike leaves, and Alex gets to complaining about foreign leaders, but not the ones you think.
This time, take shots at Canada.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Trudeau, you're in the crosshairs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
alex jones
They said, we want to end America as an idea.
We want our globalist system.
We want the Chinese system.
We want dictatorship.
So when they tell you they're liberal and they're good and, oh, Alex has hurt people's feelings and needs to be banned, all the idiots rolling over to tyranny think they're part of the power.
You're not.
You're called useful idiots in the words of V.I. Lenin.
So here's what Justin Trudeau had to say.
unidentified
There's a level of admiration I actually have for China, because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime.
alex jones
Let's hear that one more time.
dan friesen
Boy, that clip really cut off abruptly.
jordan holmes
It's almost like there would probably be some sort of context to that.
dan friesen
Yeah, it really cut off quick.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was a sharp cut.
dan friesen
Alex has some commentary, though.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
And again, he's asked by a woman in the canned question.
What is your favorite politician?
What's your favorite government?
Oh, it's Communist China.
jordan holmes
What's your favorite government?
They were on a date, obviously.
dan friesen
So, first, I want to say that these comments were made by Trudeau back in 2013, so it's a little old of a clip.
Second, although they're not great comments, and they did cause quite a bit of embarrassment for him, Trudeau didn't actually say that China was his favorite.
Here's his full answer.
You know, there's a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say, we need to go green fastest.
We need to start investing in solar.
I mean, there is a flexibility that I know Stephen Harper must dream about having a dictatorship that he can do everything he wanted that I find quite interesting.
But if I were to reach out and say which kind of administration I most admire, I think there's something to be said right here in Canada for the way our territories are run.
None of it, northwestern territories, and the Yukon are done without political parties around consensus, and are much more like a municipal government.
And I think there's a lot to be said for people pulling together to try to solve issues rather than score points off each other, and I think we need a little bit more of that.
But Sun News can now report that I prefer China.
jordan holmes
So he literally said, people are going to do what Alex is doing right now.
unidentified
Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
dan friesen
The end of the quote is him making a joke about how right-wing media outlets would report the stories he loves China.
Guess what?
Seven years later, Alex, fulfilling the prophecy.
jordan holmes
I don't know if anybody who studies government would...
Disagree with the idea that a centralized monarchical power structure allows for quicker reaction times.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, if you're saying it...
jordan holmes
You don't have to get a bunch of people together and vote.
dan friesen
If you're saying it outside of it being a prescriptive thing, like, we should have that because...
jordan holmes
No, no.
If you're just studying it, then you'd be like, well, yeah, obviously, because that guy just gets to say, do this.
Instead of being like, well, we need to talk to our constituents, and we need to have a vote, and we need to write a bill and do all that stuff.
dan friesen
Descriptively, it's pretty hard.
to argue with yeah but yeah if you listen to the rest of that quote it's really clear the thing that he's bringing up is is that phenomenon how they can make their economy much more eco friendly because of that basic dictatorship as he calls it but the government that he actually says is what he admires right is the territorial
It's all you need.
These people who like Q, they're fucking stupid because they think that they're talking to military intelligence.
And that's what Alex keeps happening.
He keeps running into people at events, and they're like...
jordan holmes
Like Zach?
alex jones
I've literally been at rallies, and they always have this weird look like they're in a trance.
They walk over all...
It's always like a guy wearing a Q shirt, and he goes, Alex, I used to like you, but now I'm with Q. I know you're bad.
And they'll always go...
Army intelligence.
I'm with the intelligence.
You're like, well, really, that's funny because the highest levels of army intelligence call up and ask me what's coming next, and so does the FBI, those that are good.
And you think there's like some magic mountain up there.
The president calls us to see what we think.
dan friesen
So, he's making fun of these people for thinking they're talking to military intelligence, and then he immediately starts talking about how he's the one who talks to military intelligence.
jordan holmes
All I hear him say is just like, I know I'm lying.
You guys believe what you're saying.
I know I'm lying.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Because I'm not stupid.
dan friesen
I can weaponize this stuff.
You guys are following.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're not making any money off of this bullshit.
You should be giving me money.
I hate them.
dan friesen
So he's just fed up with these Q folks.
But it's really important to understand that the reason that he's behaving in the way he is towards them and about this whole narrative, and he's throwing them under the bus, because he needs somebody to be the people who had the zip ties.
He needs somebody to be the people who are scary.
And he's taught his audience not really to be afraid of skinny jean wearing Antifa.
jordan holmes
So I assume he's going to denounce the Oath Keepers, right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
I have arguments with family.
I have arguments with so many people where they believed all that delusional crap and it really defeated us.
And then now I see how it's a robot army they control through 8chan who will do violence.
And now they're planning to attack a bunch of the capitals during the 20th.
Which denies us the capability to actually protest peacefully because they're going to have Q-tards out there.
With their zip ties and their guns, believing they're about to overthrow the globalists.
And they're being secretly commanded by some magic group that is the globalists.
Q thinks it's good, but it's commanded by the enemy, for sure.
And it's roped in so many people that are now delusional.
All I want, man.
You know, I really figured things out in the last couple days.
I kind of went next level.
And I already knew all of this, but now I'm totally in the dialectic.
I get the whole Machiavellian plan even better.
And now I'm sure they're operating according to it.
jordan holmes
With chopsticks.
alex jones
And God, is it diabolical.
Absolutely diabolical.
unidentified
What?
Oh, man.
alex jones
And people take kindness for weakness.
And I just can't believe it.
I've always been so loyal.
I'm such a loyal person.
The people that treat me good, I treat them good.
And I've just experienced so many people that don't treat me like that.
But I finally, through the years of working hard, have found a crew that treats me loyally.
I treat them loyally as I can.
I appreciate them.
But I've gotten to a point at 47 years old that I can't take disloyalty anymore.
And rat bastardness.
You know, I was watching.
jordan holmes
Next we have Roger Stone.
alex jones
What are we doing?
dan friesen
What are we doing?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
dan friesen
I wouldn't expect that Alex would like, ah, I finally get it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's supposed to have known all this.
jordan holmes
It just makes me want to start barking.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, totally.
I almost just broke down and just started going, bark!
dan friesen
Bark!
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's so nonsensical.
Those moments when he's just like, ugh.
I see everything in the dialectic.
I went next level recently.
Get a journal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it does go a long way towards explaining how he tells himself he's not a serial killer.
You know, no, no, I just got it.
I've seen something new.
I'm not a serial killer.
dan friesen
It's a different thing.
We know that he's taken responsibility for multiple killings in the past.
I don't know if he can talk himself out of that one.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Anyway, these Q people, they were at the Capitol, and they trained themselves to think that Trump was going to send the special forces in, right?
And so they saw Antifa.
And they thought that they were the special forces.
This is the story now.
alex jones
It was the Q people under Antifa's control who went in there like a group of morons.
Antifa breaches it.
They start it.
The Q people thought, there's the special forces right on time.
They told us to invade at this time.
They would attack first, and they thought Antifa was special forces for Trump breaking into the Capitol.
So they then flooded behind, waving in the masses.
But luckily, by the blessing of God, 99% of the hundreds of thousands did not go in with them.
But I saw that, and it made me sick.
dan friesen
Yeah, so this is, I guess, how the narrative is going to land, is the Q people thought that Antifa were special forces, but I thought that they were being directed by the deep state also.
Like, what's going on here?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Dan, what is going on here?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Bunch of nonsense.
jordan holmes
I will tell you what's going on here.
It's everybody's fault but mine!
unidentified
I'm blameless!
dan friesen
Now, excuse me while me and my health ranger friend try and make this happen again.
jordan holmes
Stir up the rebellion!
Hooray!
dan friesen
So, I told you there would be hypnosis involved, and Alex does go to calls.
jordan holmes
You did promise me hypnosis, Dan.
dan friesen
He wanted to talk to people who were there, and one guy believes that...
jordan holmes
Give them your name and address, please.
You were there?
dan friesen
Well, maybe not inside, but at the rally.
And there's one guy who calls in who believes that there was a guy on a megaphone who is basically hypnotizing the crowd.
unidentified
Alex, do you remember the media tower right there up front and center?
In the back?
alex jones
Yes.
unidentified
There was someone on that megaphone.
I know a little bit about neuro-linguistic programming, NLP.
Whoever was on that megaphone was literally, by the power of suggestion, hitting all those trigger words.
Take it now, people.
It's now or never.
This is China.
This is our house.
Storm it.
Push forward, hold the line.
They were saying everything that would row anyone.
alex jones
And also read they said Alex Jones and Trump say so.
Did you hear that?
unidentified
I did not say that, but I hear that, but I can tell you what I felt and the things that I did hear.
dan friesen
So this guy is saying that someone was using neuro-linguistic programming to convince the crowd to act in ways that it wouldn't have.
But I also think that all the things that he's saying, the person said, are exactly what they would be saying in a bullhorn.
jordan holmes
You guys want this!
You're just mad because it happened before you could get enough people together to succeed.
That's what's angering them!
dan friesen
And you're gonna be mad when people start to take this seriously.
jordan holmes
You're gonna be real mad whenever you start to get it.
dan friesen
For a very long time, people have not taken the issue of right-wing media and how it feeds into extremism.
They've not taken that seriously at all.
Which is...
I mean, why we have any relevance.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Why there's any reason for a show like ours to exist is because no one takes it seriously.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And I think that there is an unfortunate for them trend, and that is that people may take this seriously now, and that's threatening.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it'll be good, though.
Because imagine if somebody was like, I don't know.
On every TV show, just sitting there being like, hey, hey!
That's bullshit.
Next.
You know?
Just like, hey, strike that from the fucking show!
dan friesen
Next.
That's why I think I speculated about this back in the day, and I actually don't think this would be a good idea, but if Alex is going to do his show, I have to be his co-host.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
That's his version of net neutrality.
jordan holmes
You need a fucking shot caller.
That's what you need.
dan friesen
So there's some other callers who talk about boring stuff about being there at the rally.
I didn't find any of it too interesting.
But there's one other caller that made me chuckle.
unidentified
You do have an alternative.
It's called magazines.
You need to start a magazine to where we can leave it at dentist's office, Walmart.
jordan holmes
Call it Lifestyle of the Free.
alex jones
You know, I tried a magazine, sir.
Lifestyle of the Free sounds great.
Do you understand that it had one one-millionth of response of a digital format?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but the digital format's not doing anything either.
unidentified
Look what it's done.
The country's still going down.
alex jones
I appreciate your call, sir.
dan friesen
I've got to hang up on this asshole.
jordan holmes
Dan, here's my solution.
dan friesen
Print media!
I love that call because he's like, yeah, you know, we need magazines.
Look, I've done a magazine.
It costs a lot of money.
Didn't make anything off it.
No one gave a shit.
jordan holmes
Do you know anything about the publishing business?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a loss.
I'm just going to throw money in a pit.
Yeah.
And hey, look, the digital stuff, lots more people see it.
The college response to that is amazing.
The digital stuff's not doing anything either.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Which?
Fair point.
Fair point, sir.
dan friesen
Alex can't reply to that, so he hangs up.
jordan holmes
Get rid of that guy.
You're fucking worthless.
That's what's happening.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, we come to the end of this, and, you know, we needed to do Wednesday episode, because this is pretty fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But at the same time, it's like, you know, if we waited until Friday, this would pile up, and there wouldn't be...
And who knows what's going to happen tomorrow, or, you know, like, it's just...
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
This is...
jordan holmes
We're not a news show, but the news backs up fast now.
dan friesen
It backs up fast.
We've already forgotten that Alex interviewed Mike Flynn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Who gives a fuck about that?
Who gives a fuck about that shit?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, anyway.
We'll see what happens.
I'm sorry to do this to you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're worked up in a tizzy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not.
You get to process all of this and then the show, and you have to edit it, you know, and that's...
But I'm just...
Shaking with rage and then I walk away.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Into the night.
dan friesen
Some would argue that your job is easier in that sense.
jordan holmes
Some would argue that.
dan friesen
I think you're describing me having to live with this stuff for a lot longer.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
But you're better able to emotionally process it, Dan.
I'm a loose cannon.
Somebody should take my gun and badge away right now.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Well, good thing you have neither a gun nor a badge.
jordan holmes
That's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is true.
That is a bonus.
dan friesen
And, you know, it's not so much that I'm able to emotionally handle this much better.
It's that I steal all the candy that our listeners send us.
jordan holmes
That's what gets you through.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
If I got some of that candy, I wouldn't be shaking with rage right now, Dan.
dan friesen
Well, I need it all.
So, unfortunately, no candy.
jordan holmes
Well, you're the more valuable resource.
unidentified
Fine.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back on Friday, Jordan.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at gotobetjordans.
dan friesen
Yes, we're on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people who are still doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm the juiciest ice cube.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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