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Dec. 18, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#512: December 16-17, 2020

#512: December 16–17, 2020 dissects Alex Jones’ chaotic claims—firing David Knight amid InfoWars’ financial collapse, falsely linking $10.6B to BLM, and pivoting from socialism praise (López Obrador) to China payroll accusations against McConnell. Jones mocks rally speakers like Fuentes while pushing GOP destruction, ignoring past failures like the Tea Party. Patreon supporters fund their critiques as Patrick Byrne’s unverified 2015 "FBI sting" bombshells go unchallenged, exposing Jones’ blind embrace of conspiracy spectacle over evidence. The episode underscores how fringe media thrives on instability, shifting blame, and unproven narratives to sustain its audience. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 18:21
d
dan friesen
43:12
j
jordan holmes
26:41
p
patrick m byrne
05:59
Appearances
n
nick fuentes
01:32
r
robert barnes
00:54
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
It's time to pray.
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang me are the bad guys.
Knowledge and fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
unidentified
Riddler.
Andy and Pansy.
alex jones
Andy and Pandy.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding it.
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish-time caller over here today.
alex jones
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're Couple Dudes.
Like sit around, drink knowledge beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joe's.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
Yes, sir.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is, you know, just the recognition that, you know, decades from now, centuries from now, this will be looked upon as the week of too much of you and me.
Quite a week of too much us.
jordan holmes
Dan, I think that you are underestimating exactly how much more we're going to do in the weeks to come.
dan friesen
This is extensive week of programming between our episode on our Patreon, our little bonus episode, and then also thank you to Robert and Sophie.
Huge thanks to Robert and Sophie.
Behind the bastards.
And I got to bring up something that I got to bring information to the table that everyone was unaware of.
Yes.
About invention from Goldwater.
I do recall that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
That's something we've talked about on this show, but apparently was new to the proceedings.
jordan holmes
I would say that you were so excited.
dan friesen
Very excited.
jordan holmes
You were incredibly excited.
You were shivering and shaking almost as though it was like there was like a bug in my pen.
Yeah, some sort of bug in a, you know, it's just something I couldn't feel, but it was there.
dan friesen
So yeah, I guess that's my bright spot.
Too much of us.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
My bright spot is, Dan, Taylor Swift.
unidentified
Taylor Swift is my bright spot because you're so messed.
jordan holmes
You're so messed up.
dan friesen
I was real worried about this.
jordan holmes
No.
Yeah, I decided to start listening to every Taylor Swift.
I've never listened to Taylor Swift.
dan friesen
Never been to a Walgreens?
jordan holmes
On purpose or in full.
Is that a better way of doing it?
So I've never done that before, and then I've really been struggling to come up with a project since the book ended.
And I've just been like throwing shit at the wall.
And it's not been going well.
dan friesen
Well, here comes another one.
jordan holmes
For some reason, for some reason, I was like, you know what?
Now I'm going to do it.
So I've decided to listen to every one of Taylor Swift's albums in a row, chronological order, and review each one.
dan friesen
We've talked about this a little bit, and I resent you for this because I think it's going to have a really negative tone.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, is it dark?
Yeah.
It is very fun to be incredibly mean to a 17-year-old who is going to go on to be a billionaire.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I also resent that you're at this point, you're still at a point where I can't really rebut anything you're saying.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about Taylor Swift's first album.
Sure, sure, sure.
But if you start getting real shitty about some of his later albums, we might have words.
jordan holmes
I think if you read it, you will find that I am very complimentary towards things that deserve complimented.
Okay.
And I am hyperbolically, incredibly cruel to things that are just meth.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
You know, that's kind of helpful.
dan friesen
Check it out.
Where can people find it?
jordan holmes
People can find it on friend of the show Matthias Drufke's website, fancyboysclub.com.
I'll be posting those probably once a week or until I get really pissed off at Taylor Swift and decide never to do this again.
unidentified
And if I get bored enough, I will write it.
jordan holmes
I think that would be fun.
dan friesen
But they will be only personally attacking you.
Yes, nothing to do with the music, just personally attacking you.
jordan holmes
What you should do is do the exact same thing, but for each chapter of my book.
Right.
Every week, we'll just hate each other.
dan friesen
Has Jordan ever written that prop masterpiece?
No.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
All right.
Well, Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about December 16th and 17th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
Hooray!
dan friesen
Shit got interesting and weird this week, and so we're going to have a little bit of a, I don't know, memento style.
We're going to start with December 17th.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then we're going to go back.
I've heard some news.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
So before we get to the episode, let's take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, Bat Chain Masterson.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
How are you?
dan friesen
Hi, Jane.
Next, Olivia M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Olivia.
dan friesen
Check out next.
James C. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, thank you very much, James.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Liz G. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thanks, Liz.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Zachariah K. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Zachariah.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Jonathan T. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, JT.
dan friesen
Oh, what?
Triple.
Thomas?
jordan holmes
Double.
dan friesen
You're talking about a couple JTTs?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So Big Easy Blasphemy.
Thank you so much.
You are now a Technocrat.
And Corey S. Thank you so much.
You are now a Technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
Crikey, Mike.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a burden.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We got to go full-telt buggy on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Big Easy Blasphemy.
And thank you so much, Corey.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show.
I'd like to support these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
jordan holmes
What you could do is create some sort of tortured analogy towards trying to find writing something about Taylor Swift into a generosity thing.
But I would just suggest that you guys go to your local charity or Bailfund and support people.
dan friesen
You took the easy road on this show.
jordan holmes
Man, it was just going to be, I was thinking about it on the way here.
dan friesen
You were trying to get a little too meta with this.
I was trying there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was tough.
It's a tough one.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's all right.
So I wanted to play the sound of silence to start this episode, but that would be very hacky.
And so I decided not to.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, real quick, I have one piece of business.
dan friesen
Okay, real quick.
jordan holmes
Right off the top.
dan friesen
Somebody reached out to me.
Nothing to do with the sound of silence.
jordan holmes
Nothing to do with the sound of silence.
Completely unrelated.
Somebody reached out to me and she asked me politely if we would wish her partner a happy birthday.
His name is Joe, and I was told that the way to identify him was that he skips over our theme song.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which then made me be like, am I even going to fucking do this now?
There we go.
dan friesen
You're going to play it again.
jordan holmes
That's what's going to happen.
dan friesen
Take that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Happy birthday, James.
Happy birthday, Joe.
dan friesen
I hope you have a good one.
It's been a tough year for everybody.
Everybody who had a birthday this year wasn't their favorite birthday.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Mine wasn't.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope.
And hey, here's the other thing.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
If you are dating a Joe or married to a Joe or whatever with a Joe who also skips over the theme song, tell him it was you.
dan friesen
Sure.
Tell him it was you.
jordan holmes
Totally.
I'm not saying anything.
I'm not going to follow up on that.
dan friesen
They're not snitches.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Feel free to lie to your partner.
jordan holmes
Build a strong relationship.
dan friesen
And now, back to the sound of silence.
Yes, indeed.
Hello, Darkness, my old friend.
I couldn't help but like find.
Look, okay.
Beginning of the week, we had the rallies in D.C., and then I was kind of planning on this episode to cover the very predictable and obvious reactions Alex would have to it.
Totally.
But then today, Thursday, as it was, you know, getting game time to do this episode, we got hit with some big news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
At Liberty Tarian on Twitter.
The one person at InfoWars who has managed to duck getting banned because he's too boring for anyone to notice is there.
Too boring.
David Knight announced that he was fired effective immediately from InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Stevie P's got to him in the end, huh?
dan friesen
I don't know if that's the case.
That is the obvious thing that you would think because David Knight has been on a bit of a public vendetta against Steve Pieczenik.
unidentified
A little bit.
dan friesen
Who has been trying to convince people at InfoWars that the election was a grand sting operation?
And David Knight's not having any of that bullshit.
jordan holmes
David Knight fired for being inexplicably a half-truth teller.
dan friesen
To his credit, he responded appropriately to that.
Although, to not his credit, he also, you know, the last time he had Steve on, he said, yes, I believe Sandy Hook was a false flag.
There you go.
I will not agree with you about Las Vegas.
So I don't know where his line is.
jordan holmes
He's a half-truth teller.
dan friesen
Yeah, and this big, this big news.
And I don't want to shit on somebody when they're down or like make fun of it, but I mean, like, it's relevant to our interests.
Like, David Knight has been there forever.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's been there 10 years, probably.
jordan holmes
Something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
He has always been there through the thick and thin of so much horrible bullshit.
Went along with Alex as he got into Trump.
jordan holmes
Maybe Alex just remembered that David Knight was there and he was like, shit, I meant to fire him five years ago and then I just forgot.
He's just so boring.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm actually kind of conflicted.
I'm not entirely sure what I think the case is here.
And I think we'll discuss this as we go through the episode.
So we're going to start with the 17th.
We're going to start with Alex's conversation about because I think he knew he needed to get ahead of this.
Yeah.
And so he has fired David at this point.
jordan holmes
We're past it.
dan friesen
Yes.
And so Thursday's show, he's going to deal with some housekeeping business for a little bit.
unidentified
First thing I want to say: the tank was a good idea.
alex jones
It was a good idea.
dan friesen
Solid investment.
jordan holmes
It was a good investment.
unidentified
Anyways, we have lost some personnel.
dan friesen
The tank brings in more money than David Knight.
jordan holmes
I'm proud of it.
dan friesen
Sells more pills.
So we're going to look at that, and then we're going to flash back to the 16th.
And we're just going to discuss what kind of content was going on there because I got just bored as hell after Alex stopped talking about current events of his own issues.
So here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
I don't want to liken myself to a U.S. president, but this job is about as close as it gets.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
I mean, currently, maybe.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Look, I talk shit and vaguely read headlines.
Yeah, I'm basically the president.
jordan holmes
Pretty close.
Pretty close when you get down to it.
dan friesen
I get lied to by weirdos as a profession.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I too like Stephen Miller.
dan friesen
So I kind of had a sense that it was going to be something that Alex has to bring up because David Knight has made this public.
He's come out with it.
So Alex frames things this way when he gets going on the show on the 17th.
He was late.
He was late for the show.
There was some special reports at the beginning.
alex jones
And I've got a really huge announcement coming up at the bottom of the hour about the future of InfoWars and about this organization and a restructuring we're going to be doing that'll be announced today.
I've waited long enough and I've told folks about how we're under attack, what's going on with InfoWars.
And I don't think people take that serious sometimes, but InfoWars is fighting for its life.
Just like the rest of the country and the rest of the world is.
We don't get globalist money.
We didn't get the $10.6 million that Black Lives Matter got from the New World Order.
And the only money we get is from you.
And we can't fight if you don't support us.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
So there's restructuring going on in the InfoWar.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
There's demotions.
Yeah, clearly.
Yeah.
And there's nothing really specific yet at this point.
There's just kind of like the insinuation that we're going to talk about what the future is going to look like around here.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I podcasts.
jordan holmes
They're the future.
dan friesen
I grow weary of this, quite honestly, because we've been on this track before.
We've done some laps around this.
Granted, the move of firing David Knight.
That's big.
jordan holmes
That's a big one.
That one's tough to undersell.
dan friesen
That's tough to look at as like, oh, you're just blowing smoke.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's something there.
Now, whether it's like, A, resources are tight.
jordan holmes
I got a call from Melania and she said, get rid of David Knight.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Is it the Steve situation or is it money?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I can't tell.
So I was like, what else is going on here, Alex?
Got anything to talk about other than your own dumb bullshit?
alex jones
Trump tried to turn our economy back on, get us out of the globalist system.
He did really a splendid job on many fronts, made some big mistakes.
And still, with 34 days left, if he levels with the American people in resolute desk speeches and asks for 10 million Americans to march on Washington peacefully and to march on all our other capitals to demonstrate that we know there's massive election fraud and that we repudiate the globalist corporate media, the NWO has a very good chance of folding up and backing down because then the Justice Department and others will have the courage to do the right thing and prosecute.
dan friesen
So Alex is pretending that a bunch of people could go march and then the new world order would be like, oh no.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
What about plan B?
jordan holmes
Nah, it's a show of force.
dan friesen
What about plan B?
jordan holmes
What about plan B?
There's 10 million people in one spot.
You can't do plan B when they're all there.
dan friesen
That would be perfect.
That's when you gasped.
jordan holmes
That's not all.
There's too many.
dan friesen
That's when you hit the bioweapon.
jordan holmes
That's what Plan B. There's not enough bioweapon.
It would be too diffuse and everybody would get a little sick.
dan friesen
That's not how a bioweapon works.
This is a super bioweapon.
You forgot that plan B is a super bioweapon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a super bioweapon hits 5 million people in one place max.
That's twice as many.
dan friesen
I just can't get it up for this kind of thing.
jordan holmes
No, this is sad.
He doesn't even believe it.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
I can't handle the guy trying to tell me that, like, oh, we just need a bunch of people to march, and then maybe the cabal of people who've been planning this for thousands of years will be like, oh, no, people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And when Alex has already said that there's a plan B, if all of if they manage to, like, even if they get Trump back in office, there's a plan B that's just everyone dies, but it's a little less organized.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I don't, I don't, how, how, why?
dan friesen
What does this matter?
jordan holmes
I don't know, but the idea of the devil who has been with humanity since there were two, and now there are several billion of us, for him to be like, whoa, 10 million is just too much for me to look.
I got to tell the NWO to back off.
That's just mathematically a little bit problematic.
dan friesen
Because you have to assume that the New World Order would be doing the devil's bidding.
jordan holmes
They would have to.
dan friesen
Right.
The only reason that they're doing the things that they're doing is because the devil has told them that they should.
Right.
And I mean, yeah, if the devil is like, who cares about 10 million people marching?
It's no big deal.
You'd assume they would just keep going with their plans.
unidentified
Does the devil phone or does he appear?
dan friesen
I don't know.
He seems really interested in domestic politics.
jordan holmes
He really does.
I feel like he should get a phone.
dan friesen
There's a whole big world out there for the devil.
jordan holmes
The devil email because if he's appearing everywhere, this is exhausting.
dan friesen
This is stupid and it feels trivial, even within Alex's own conspiracies.
I just don't care.
jordan holmes
No, this is dope.
dan friesen
So, how about you get back to your bullshit, Alex?
I want to hear more about your situation.
alex jones
And InfoWars, I'm giving you the good news.
InfoWars has three to five times the audience on a day-to-day basis that we've ever had, except for right around the last election.
And that's despite all the de-platforming.
What we do not have is the funding we had then.
And so I'm the type of guy that has kept everybody employed, kept the shows going, kept us in the field, kept funding everything, mortgage my house a year ago to be able to have emergency funding to run this operation, to take care of shortfalls.
But I can look at the other things I have as an emergency backup, and it wouldn't fund this place for a month if I had to liquidate everything I've got.
Because this is a big operation.
Our own satellites, our own IT, our own feeds, our own everything, all the DNC lawsuits against us, everything.
dan friesen
Wait, wait, wait.
The DNC lawsuits?
jordan holmes
DNC lawsuits?
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
jordan holmes
What are the DNC doing?
dan friesen
Also, I think that's called being overextended.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's you could also put that thusly.
We should have scaled back a long time ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No reason to not have.
That tank was a bad purchase.
dan friesen
No need for that tank.
This studio looks great.
Looks amazing.
It's completely pointless.
jordan holmes
Maybe too big for just one person to sit there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Could be too big.
Maybe a little ostentatious.
Austin.
Oh, dude.
Stumbled upon a pun that Ralphie May made years ago with the name of one of his specials.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't like that.
I remember that.
Anyway, look, you need to buy his products because Alex needs money.
Sure.
And you know what?
You need them too.
You need the products, too.
alex jones
Had one of the crew members over here tore his leg, had some medical stuff, went to the doctor.
They wanted to put him on stuff for his low tee.
He didn't do it.
Got tests again.
He came in on Monday or Tuesday.
He said, look at this.
I got tested.
Started taking Super Male Vitality.
And look at my numbers.
It was incredible.
I got to check with lawyers if we can even show you this stuff because the system's so corrupt.
You're not supposed to know what herbs can do.
But that's the type of things that are happening and that are going on.
And I'm just here to tell you.
And you've come through over and over again.
I keep telling you, we can't keep operating.
We can't keep doing it at this level.
If you don't support us, if you don't pray for us, if you don't spread the word, we're way more hardcore than Newsmax, OAN, everybody else.
And I love them.
I hope they get more hardcore than I am.
And I like OAN.
You know, we're on cloud TV, number one.
dan friesen
OAN and Newsmax are the worst thing that could happen for Alex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The fact that those two outlets are doing slick shit, they have some sort of financing from some mysterious source, I'm sure.
jordan holmes
They have better than 19-year-olds working in their rooms.
dan friesen
They have the ability to pretend that they're news.
They don't act like Alex screaming about the devil.
jordan holmes
They say the same shit.
Absolutely.
They have like all David Knights.
dan friesen
Yeah, they have the editorial standards of Alex, but the appearance of a news thing.
It's the worst thing ever for Alex.
He has no place in the market anymore unless he does something different.
He has to pivot.
Or else, like, it will just be, I'm another one of them that no one will plug because I suck.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I'm so toxic.
jordan holmes
It's funny.
I kind of think Alex is confused by that because he's, because I really do think that when he sees his set and the way his show runs, he's like, this looks like a news organization.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, he totally thinks that.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
So how can he look at OAN and Newsmax and be like, they're just like me.
You know, like, isn't that wild?
dan friesen
I don't think he watches anything other than I bet he doesn't have the time for it nor the interest.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I think it's actually kind of interesting that because those things exist, things like Newsmax or OAN, like David Knight could easily get a job at either of them.
Like, they've accidentally created employability for the people that work for Alex.
jordan holmes
Right.
Who aren't Alex?
dan friesen
They've created a situation where he can't hold people hostage working at Infowars anymore.
If you have aspirations to be a right-wing shit journalist, like there are other options now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex.
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
I think the good news is Schroyer's not going anywhere.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
Even after, you know, nobody's hiring.
Even Newsmax is going to see Owen Schroyer walk in and be like, and you may turn around now.
dan friesen
I can't tell exactly from listening to this, but it does appear that Owen is the only other person who survived the axe.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
The axe.
Like, straight up axe.
dan friesen
We'll get to it.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I might have shown my cards to the cards.
You might have shown too many cards.
But we should know that Alex is being very clear that he's not quitting.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And so, you know, I said on Joe Rogan's show five weeks ago, I said, I thought about retiring.
And the media thought that was just, you know, Jones trying to act like he's this reluctant hero.
That's not what it is.
jordan holmes
Reluctant hero.
alex jones
I only dream about this stuff 90% of the time.
Used to 5% of the time.
I have basically no life other than this.
It's all I do.
And I still feel like I'm not doing enough, but I'm not going to quit.
dan friesen
I can't imagine it being his life and him being so bad at this.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, what are you putting time into?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
What could he possibly be?
In regards to the show, okay, you've dedicated your life to this show.
You talk for three, two, four hours for being a very generous day.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Or someone cancels.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
You don't.
You tell people that you read, and I think something happens while you are holding a thing.
dan friesen
He reads headlines.
jordan holmes
There are words that he sees that then become brain themselves.
I don't know what reading would be for him.
dan friesen
The only thing I can imagine that would take a lot of time is maybe it requires like extensive meditation or yoga in order to get into his like prophetic psychic trance or whatever that he says he can kick himself into.
So maybe he reads headlines and then gets into some kind of a weird trance state.
Sure.
And then he reports on what the trance showed him about this headline as opposed to reading the article.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because that would take too much time.
jordan holmes
You know what his mantra is?
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
Soros.
dan friesen
I can't.
I just can't imagine it.
Like, because he doesn't need to practice talking shit.
He's really good at it.
jordan holmes
No, he's ecstatic at it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The only thing that would take time is preparing, and he clearly doesn't do that.
He doesn't do that.
So I don't know.
Anyway, this is not the end.
It is a new chapter.
alex jones
So it's been the greatest pleasure of my life, 27 years on air, knowing all of you and fighting the new world order and doing all this.
And I'm not going anywhere yet.
But you need to know a new chapter's here.
You know, when I tell you that the CIA follows us around and the FBI and the Secret Service now, and they come and sit down next to us at the restaurants and tell us that they come visit us at the hotel and turn our cell phones off so we can't videotape them.
And that the former director of the CIA comes out and says he wants me arrested on Twitter.
That isn't me scared.
That's not me afraid.
jordan holmes
It's me lying.
alex jones
It's just Infowars entering a new chapter of life.
dan friesen
Embellishing probably more than lying.
Because Michael Hayden did tweet an agreement with somebody who tweeted that Alex should be arrested for his statement about Biden at that rally over the weekend.
Yeah, I don't know.
The new chapter.
What is a new chapter?
What does that mean?
What does that entail?
And you can sum it up with a song title, No More Mr. Nice Guy.
alex jones
Uh-oh.
And so I'm here to tell you that I'm not going to back down.
And I'm going to do exactly what I think is the most moral and best thing to do.
And that starts with not being a nice guy anymore.
Not being delusional about where we stand and what we can do.
And the fact that I have this tendency to never even shake up things in my own operations because I'm so loyal, even though to the point of our operation not being able to function.
dan friesen
So up to this point, you'd been a Mr. Nice guy.
jordan holmes
That speech, I can only hear that, like imagining him just giving it directly to the mirror as he's putting the Joker makeup on.
You know, like he's just giving this like, no more, Mr. Nice Guy.
alex jones
All right, put a little bit more rude in there.
dan friesen
Now, the problem with me, and the reason I've gotten to this point is I'm too loyal.
unidentified
Too loyal.
dan friesen
I've never met Wolfgang.
jordan holmes
Never met anybody.
Release the Kraken.
Who's Kraken?
We changed the Kraken.
dan friesen
But Dandy didn't work here.
unidentified
I don't know that.
jordan holmes
Never heard of him.
Never met him.
dan friesen
So look, a lot of people are gone.
And without mentioning David Knight by name, of course, there's some other people that you might have been seeing at Inforz that aren't around.
Not anymore.
alex jones
And so I pledge to you that I'm going to work harder in the fight against the New World Order.
I'm asking you to fight harder against the globalist.
But I've already explained to you we had to let Caitlin Bennett go because we couldn't pay her anymore.
We had to let Millie Weaver go.
And God bless Caitlin Bennett.
She hasn't made up a bunch of stuff about us because we let her go.
You've seen what Millie's done.
God bless her.
It's okay.
She did a lot of great work in the past.
unidentified
No, she didn't.
jordan holmes
No, she did not.
dan friesen
No.
I like the idea that Alex is trying to pretend that he didn't fire her for Shadow Gate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fun.
Yeah.
How could she make up all this stuff when I literally said, I don't get into that stuff.
It's too scary.
This is the game.
dan friesen
That weirdo guy from your film showed up at my studio and then was talking about Roger Stone in ways that I don't appreciate.
alex jones
You're fine.
jordan holmes
You got a goat.
You're fine.
dan friesen
Oh, it was finances.
jordan holmes
Oh, sure.
I hate that she's making up that stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, but because of things in finances and the difficulties that Alex is in, the situation, he's had to cut back a whole bunch.
There were people like Millie.
There were people like Caitlin Bennett that he was funding, and now he can't.
He can't do that anymore.
alex jones
Three, four years ago, when I still had plenty of money, I was funding dozens of organizations, dozens of groups that were doing great work.
I was taking the money you sent us, buying products, and then sending it out where I thought it was key to fight the New World Order.
I'm down to funding three or four organizations outside of our own operation now.
unidentified
I've been cut back to a hill.
And I'll die on this hill.
alex jones
But everybody sits here and hears me say that, and you don't think I'm serious.
We're going to have to reorganize and we're going to have to rethink what we're doing.
I'm going to stay on the air four hours a day.
So is Om for three hours a day.
I've got to counsel the nighttime election countdown show just because there's not the crew, there's not the funds, there's not the money.
And we're going to have to reorganize some of the other shows and then revamp them and relaunch them because I never give up, but I can give out.
It's like an old horse.
Your horses will run and run and run till their heart blows up.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's like a horse with his heart about to blow up.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Run.
Run faster.
Keep going.
dan friesen
So from that clip, what I take away is the election countdown with Deanna Lorraine and Robert Barnes over.
It's gone.
There's no staff for that.
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Sorry, Barnes.
dan friesen
Alex is going to be on still, and Owen.
Conspicuous in its absence from that list is the only other show, and that's the David Knight show.
jordan holmes
Wow, there's that one.
dan friesen
And Alex is saying he's going to retool and revamp these shows, but obviously, you know, according to David Knight's Twitter, he got fired.
So you're going to revamp it with somebody else, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
He wants to bring in a younger crowd.
So, you know, 11 or 12-year-old video game streamer is probably who he's going to be.
dan friesen
The guy who hits things with hammers?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Spring that guy.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He's electric.
dan friesen
Arisen Smith is probably the best they have there, and that's bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
That's really bad.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
You might look for the future.
It's not bright.
dan friesen
No.
You can wear shades.
You don't need to, actually.
So, like, I think that this metaphor, too, is a little bit rough, and I don't appreciate it.
Alex talking about, you know, you're a horse and you're just running until your heart gives out.
David Knight had a heart attack last year.
And then he came back to work because he was so passionate about this shit.
jordan holmes
That's very funny.
dan friesen
Like, I don't look.
I don't want to be this guy giving a shit when it's not my time to give it to it.
But like, David Knight gave a lot to this.
jordan holmes
He did.
dan friesen
And we are now a couple weeks before Christmas.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Alex is fucking firing him.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
That's so bad.
jordan holmes
Come on.
Come on.
Everybody was like, oh, feel bad for Bob Cratchit.
When did they think about how Scrooge was like a fucking horse who was going to steal everybody's money until his heart gave out?
Nobody's thinking about Scrooge here, okay?
Dirty, man.
dan friesen
He's doing him dirty.
He couldn't wait until the new year.
jordan holmes
What?
God, I just, I just want, I just hope that David Knight is overwhelmed by not like sadness or regret or like anything other than just like, I am so stupid for coming back after that fucking heart attack.
Well, I should never have fucking done that.
dan friesen
I have a slightly different hope, and that is that I hope it gets ugly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do too.
dan friesen
Not for his, like, like nothing negative for him or anything, but like, I hope he kept some receipts.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
I hope there's some real fun.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But, hey, look, Alex is this horse, and he's running.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he needs a break.
alex jones
Any good horse will run till its heart blows.
It won't stop.
You keep running a horse, it'll go till it dies.
And, you know, I've metaphysically, but also physically got to that point.
I can't stop working.
I've got to take a week off.
I've got to turn everything off.
I've got to do it.
And it doesn't matter when the middle of the shining battle, because I know when smoke's coming out of the race car engine, you've got to pull over and get oil put in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, you got to put some oil in there.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, you got to take a week off, Alex.
jordan holmes
We've got to put oil in the horse.
dan friesen
You just went to D.C.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You just took a trip to D.C.
jordan holmes
That was work.
dan friesen
That was work.
jordan holmes
That was work-related.
dan friesen
That was work.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, he stayed in a nice hotel and ate really well, but that was work.
dan friesen
He should have gone with Owen on the caravan.
That would have been a fun road trip.
That would have been a nice time.
jordan holmes
That would have broad out of the bottom.
dan friesen
Workation.
jordan holmes
Bonded.
Yeah, the whole thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Take a week off, Alex.
Please.
Yeah.
So I was wondering, like, what's the clip confused the hell out of me?
Because Alex describes what his last straw was.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's something that doesn't make any sense.
alex jones
So I thank you all for your support, and I love you, and I appreciate you.
And the last straw was this morning.
I got up and I saw this number.
Black Lives Matter raised $10.6 billion since May.
When you go in a coffee shop like Starbucks or anywhere, and they say, give it to Black Lives Matter.
That's just the communists and the Globalists and Soros collecting money.
The DNC on record got $4 billion of it of the $10 billion.
Last time I checked, look how much the DNC got of that.
That was a few months ago.
That was $4 billion that I read they got.
And who knows what it is now?
dan friesen
That's all just misinterpretations of the Act Blue stuff.
But yeah, I don't know why Black Lives Matter getting a certain amount of money would be the last straw for him.
Because it doesn't materially affect what he's doing at all.
jordan holmes
No, if I understand correctly, I wrote this down as I was tracking the thought.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
So I wrote down first: BLM raised $10 billion.
And then, so I fired David Knight.
Is that the if-then statement that I think we're going for here?
Because I feel like that's what he's saying.
dan friesen
There's a weird feeling of it, but I think if you distill it down even more, it's like, I saw that Black Lives Matter made $10 billion, and I'm not making close to that.
And it pisses me off.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So I'm going to fire David Knight.
dan friesen
And Deanna Lorraine.
And although she might have been, like, I always got the sense that she was just kind of like a temp.
jordan holmes
She's an independent contract.
dan friesen
Yeah, she was there on a little bit of assignment or whatever.
jordan holmes
She got a cup of coffee.
dan friesen
Yeah, she wasn't there.
jordan holmes
She's down back in the liners.
dan friesen
She's like, that's a long-term thing.
I just, yeah, I don't know.
I'm very conflicted because there's two sides of this that I think.
And one is like the David Knight had run afoul of Steve Pieczenik in a very serious way.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And that is something that is hard to have in-house.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
When you have somebody who is your intro show on your network right before you who's saying that one of your experts is a piece of shit liar, that's hard.
That's going to be tough to maintain the status quo.
jordan holmes
Right.
And you're a media outlet that is built entirely around bombast.
So it seems fairly simple to be like, okay, well, we've got the most boring man ever, and we've got the most bombastic liar ever.
I think we're going to go with the most bombastic liar.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And also, you can't really have a whole lot of stability in keeping people unengaged, I guess.
Engaged, unengaged.
Because you want people actively consuming your material, but you don't want them engaging with it.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And having David Knight be like, Steve Pieczenik's a fucking liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, then you have to.
dan friesen
There's too many questions.
jordan holmes
Why does David Knight think that he's a liar?
dan friesen
Yeah.
But why doesn't Alex not?
It's too complicated, and you run the risk of kick-starting critical thinking in your listeners.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't have that.
dan friesen
No, have that.
Absolutely not.
jordan holmes
Stick with Pachenek.
dan friesen
But it does seem like that was a little bit ago.
That was a couple weeks ago.
That's true.
I don't know if I could draw a causal link here.
And Alex is saying that it's because of money.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Now, the only things that are gone are the night show, which obviously sucked.
The evening show that no one cared about.
They canceled when Alex went to DC because they didn't have the crew to run it anyway.
Yeah, that's already like a secondary, tertiary thought for them.
And then David Knight's show.
It very easily could be monetary budget constraints.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I can also see a possible world where Alex was like, fuck, I got to get rid of David Knight.
It's just not working out.
This is an untenable situation.
How can we fundraise on that?
How can I drive sales with getting rid of this?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I have no fucking idea.
None of it seems good.
Like, none of it seems like this is a.
I wouldn't look at any of these circumstances and be like, I'm going to invest in this business.
This business's model looks good.
jordan holmes
I'm going to wait until it hits rock bottom first.
Then I might invest in it.
But right now, it's only going down.
dan friesen
Well, that might be soon.
It's unclear.
Because last clip here from the 17th, Alex kind of implies that the Christmas sale will determine the future of InfoWars.
alex jones
Just do your Christmas shopping at InfowarsStore.com and we'll expand.
But if you don't, we'll contract.
And so we're reassessing right now, and InfoWars is contracting ahead of a big offensive.
And I'm going to decide whether it's our big last offensive or just the next of many.
But I promise you this: we'll go out in a fiery inferno of liberty in a peaceful operation of total victory.
dan friesen
Peaceful.
I did say offensive a couple times there in a fiery blaze of.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
dan friesen
But it's peaceful.
It's all peaceful.
Don't worry.
jordan holmes
I would like one last image of InfoWars to be Alex standing in the studio as everything burns around him with his arms outstretched, his head facing and screaming into the sky.
I think that's how he's got to go out.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
That last image.
I don't want him to actually be burnt alive.
dan friesen
Like in a movie.
Yeah, like it would be a fitting arc.
jordan holmes
Like Gary Oldman in the professional, whenever his eyes are all bloodshot and he's screaming to this guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So actually, I'm going to play this last clip here from the 17th.
I have one more, but it's just sort of like indicative of me losing my patience with Alex and why we're going to now jump back to the 16th to see what things were like 24 hours prior to Alex spending the beginning of his show talking about how dire shit is and David Knight's fired.
alex jones
So I like Andres Manuel Lopez Orbador.
He's a socialist, but he is a real socialist.
And by that, I mean he's a populist socialist and is actually trying to get higher wages for people and trying to get corporations to actually not be tax exempt.
I don't agree with that model long term, but what the fuck does that mean?
dan friesen
Alex has decided that he likes the president of Mexico because there were some comments about COVID precautions that Alex enjoyed.
And so now I like him.
Now he's a socialist, but he's a real socialist.
unidentified
Whatever.
jordan holmes
You should hate him more.
Fuck off.
That's the thing that you hate most.
You hate people who don't understand socialism, who think that they're God.
dan friesen
You hate people who you decide are socialists.
jordan holmes
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we jump back to the 16th to see, like, are there any signs?
Are there any indications that we can get from the 16th that like just a day later?
jordan holmes
Hey, everybody, it's December 16th.
alex jones
I got to be honest.
jordan holmes
We've never had more money than we have right now.
We're just so fucking flush.
Anyways, we'll see how it goes tomorrow.
dan friesen
So we start with Alex, the exciting and interesting source.
alex jones
America and the rest of the world is under globalist big tech siege, a corporate planetary takeover to replace humans and to make us obsolete.
The Von Mies Institute is highly respected with some of the top academics, researchers, economists in the world.
They've come out with a big article that's on Infowars.com where they say this is a dystopic big tech bio/slash digital technocracy.
dan friesen
The Mies Institute is not super well respected.
They're like hardcore libertarians.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
We've talked about the Mies Institute in the past, and if I recall, my feeling on them was they're great.
dan friesen
One of the articles that I covered from their website was a defense of not feeding your children.
Yep.
Because you don't have positive responsibilities towards people.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's like, oh, great.
jordan holmes
Damn, boy.
dan friesen
They're cool libertarians.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're also that kind of libertarian that's just a shithead.
Like, if you're writing in defense of not feeding your own kids, you're just a shithead.
Get out of this Mies Institute.
dan friesen
You're also not going to not feed your child.
Of course, you're doing this as some kind of a weird mental intellectual master.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally, totally.
dan friesen
But Alex, like not too long ago, was talking about how being a libertarian was the stupidest thing he's ever done.
He's citing the Mies instead.
jordan holmes
Well, they're great, but they're real libertarians, Dan.
And that's the smartest thing you can be.
dan friesen
Anyway, Barnes, his show is canceled now.
Good.
But 24 hours earlier.
alex jones
We have constitutional lawyer Robert Barnes who will shoot you straight on where Trump really stands.
I can tell you he's in liaison with the White House.
Even though he doesn't want that known, I can tell you that.
jordan holmes
Why can you tell me?
alex jones
He's separately.
I know the White House doesn't even care now.
dan friesen
The White House doesn't care.
That's why.
jordan holmes
If he doesn't want that known, why would you tell me that?
dan friesen
Hey, look, this is private, but Barnes is working with the president.
unidentified
What is this?
dan friesen
He told me not to tell you.
jordan holmes
He doesn't want me to tell.
But the White House is.
Okay, so the White House is fine.
But you know Barnes.
Yeah.
And he personally asked you.
dan friesen
And now there's no show.
The evening countdown show is canceled.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But there's no indication of that from Alex on the 16th.
There is no sense that Barnes has been doing this show.
It's going to come to an end.
It seems abrupt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem a pretty abrupt.
dan friesen
It seems abrupt.
Speaking of which, this seemed abrupt.
alex jones
But here's the big news.
We're going to cover at the start of the next segment.
Mitch McConnell and his wife, like a lot of Republicans, have been on the communist Chinese payroll for a long time.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Let's remember that Mitch McConnell's bad finally.
It's been so long since we've remembered how many people are bad, Dan.
dan friesen
Yep, Mitch McConnell has recognized that Biden won the election.
jordan holmes
So it turns out I remember all these things about him.
dan friesen
Or I'm just going to make out that he's a Chinese animal.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's great.
Now he's a villain.
jordan holmes
I like it.
Absolutely, Alex.
McConnell is a villain.
Go after him.
alex jones
So the knives are out, folks.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
alex jones
There's no doubt that Mitch McConnell is a super bad dude.
A bad, bad guy.
Yeah.
And we told you, Amy Coleman, Barrett, and we told you Kavanaugh.
And we told you all that they were going to betray us.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Because they come out of the swamp.
dan friesen
What?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
You told them that the only reason to stick with Trump was so he could get those people in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Why didn't you bring up Gorset?
jordan holmes
Also, of course, it's just too light.
dan friesen
Alex was like crying about Kavanaugh.
He was all about Kavanaugh.
jordan holmes
This is the moment we've been waiting for.
dan friesen
Alex was so in favor of that as if he was squee himself.
jordan holmes
That's the culmination of everything we've worked for.
dan friesen
It was a little more confusing, the Barrett nomination, because you did have Barnes coming in and saying, this is a really bad idea.
They shouldn't go this route.
And Alex having to dance around and like, but he did support her nomination.
He was in favor of it.
jordan holmes
We like Catholics.
No, we don't like Catholics.
Oh, well, I guess we don't like Catholics.
Somebody else is like, I think she's great.
And Alex is like, ah, I think she's great too.
Moving on.
dan friesen
But they're all villains now, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We've got a lot of new villains for Alex.
jordan holmes
Fight amongst yourselves.
I want to make you hurt each other more.
dan friesen
So Roger Stone, not too long ago, came on and broke some gigantic news.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
North Korea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Boats.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Maine.
jordan holmes
Boats from North Korea arrived with ballots to Maine.
dan friesen
Arrived in Maine.
Maine?
jordan holmes
United States, Maine.
dan friesen
Apparently, there's a different story.
jordan holmes
Oh, did something else happen?
alex jones
McConnell warns GOP of Electoral College brawl in Congress.
Trump's got his electors.
They've seated theirs.
They locked the real electors out of the state houses.
We're just supposed to just go along with this and not let the president and the voters of America press their attacks.
Yes, they've gotten screwed to legislatures.
Yes, they've been screwed so far by most of the governors because they're all a bunch of cowards.
When you get down to the brass tax, you see mathematics that are impossible in all those states where Trump's winning by two, three, four, five, six points.
And then as soon as they, quote, close the polls, all these trucks pull up, food delivery vehicles, you name it, Chinese men mainly, run in with these big containers of ballots.
And then inside, we have the footage of the workers and they're cramming them in as fast as they can.
And you have the Chinese government planes landing the day of.
jordan holmes
Wait, what now?
alex jones
You have the charter numbers.
I mean, private jets flying out of China, landing.
Men running in with big boxes of ballots.
dan friesen
So now the Chinese government is sending their own planes with charter numbers and arriving with ballots on election day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So is this in addition to the North Korean boat?
jordan holmes
Okay, so is the North Korean boat like a backup?
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
You know, like they're like, okay, we'll send the boats in like March of this year.
Yeah.
And China's going to have the plan to airlift them in and everything.
But hey, worst comes to worst, the boats will be in Maine in November.
dan friesen
Here's what I'm thinking.
I'm thinking that the Chinese planes brought in ballots, like boxes of ballots for Biden.
Right.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, the North Korean boats were rogue.
They were crazy.
They were for Jorgensen.
jordan holmes
Jorgensen.
Okay.
It's all Jorgensen?
dan friesen
They were going libertarian.
Are we sure these were?
Libertarian down ballot.
jordan holmes
Are we sure these weren't ballots for the 2016 election and the North Koreans just got to Maine?
dan friesen
That would make more sense.
jordan holmes
Is it all for Ron Johnson?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That would make more sense.
jordan holmes
That would make more sense.
dan friesen
So now, I just feel like this is silly and I'm going to need a lot more approof of this, which Alex is not forthcoming with.
jordan holmes
That's unsurprising.
dan friesen
But something that is also not surprising.
jordan holmes
What was that?
dan friesen
Alex wants a do-over.
alex jones
Second senator leans towards objecting to Electoral College certification.
Yes.
Told you Rand Paul's a man of honor.
That's what we need for president in four years.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
alex jones
Pence, Paul, Paul, Pence.
Ticket will be good.
dan friesen
Okay.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Paul Pence.
jordan holmes
Paul Pence.
That would really inspire the masses.
Those two.
Poor dim shits.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah, you want Rand Paul back.
Oh, how fun.
How interesting.
jordan holmes
Pence can't be president because nobody wants to live in a world where we have to call his wife the first mother.
That's just not happening.
It's just not happening.
dan friesen
And Rand Paul, like, you had your chance, Alex.
You turned your back on him for Trump.
You know that.
jordan holmes
Yep, it's over.
dan friesen
We all watched that happen.
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Rand isn't like Joe Rogan where you can turn your back on him and he'll accept you once more.
No, I know because he refuses to debate me, and that's the only thing that makes sense.
dan friesen
So Robert Barnes, host for another couple hours of the election council is on, and he wants you to know that he also thinks that Mitch McConnell is a traitor.
robert barnes
So the effect is it leads an inference that, well, all along, these were people who were undermining the president.
And now, it's like the godfather line when the Marlon Brando's character says he should have seen it was that one guy all along.
It was Mitch McConnell all along betraying and undermining and sabotaging the president.
It's not a coincidence.
It was his attorney general.
Then how did he get to Trump?
The only one to refuse to speak out or join the Texas lawsuit.
So now the president knows that these were traitors in his own house all over.
alex jones
Oh, yeah, Trump's called basically for the arrest of the governor in Georgia.
I mean, these people are criminals.
We need to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I want that.
alex jones
Let's talk about Trump.
What Trump should do, where Trump's really at, where we're at.
dan friesen
So Mitch McConnell was screwing it up the whole time.
He was the traitor behind the scenes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
No.
If you try and pull that now after this long.
dan friesen
Outrageous.
jordan holmes
After this long, then either you have to shut up forever because everything that you've told me, if Mitch McConnell's the secret bad guy the whole time, he wasn't very red fifth.
dan friesen
He's there.
jordan holmes
He's right there.
There's no deep state.
He's in your face.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's, I don't know, it's trying too hard to make an interesting plot twist.
Yeah, I think.
And I am not going to go along for this ride.
And I pity anybody who does.
But you see this.
Like, there are just like shoring up of ranks of like the people who are blindly willing to just completely throw away any kind of semblance of dignity that they have for Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're good.
Everybody else, oh, they were secretly villains.
jordan holmes
Evil.
dan friesen
And I have bad news for you.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
That Pence Paul ticket might not be happening afterwards.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
robert barnes
There's reasons to doubt that Pence is truly loyal to Trump.
During Access Hollywood, Pence was trying to navigate Trump out so that he could be top of the ticket in 2016.
It was Pence who helped drive Flynn out.
It was Pence who helped negotiate with Ecuador to get Julian Assange arrested and extradited.
So Pence has not been a real Trump ally.
And a lot of the never-Trumpers and problem people have come from Pence's group of people and his staff in the White House.
dan friesen
Uh-oh, it looks like Pence is an enemy, too.
jordan holmes
Good.
Good.
They're all enemies.
Arrest the governor of Georgia.
Veto the defense bill.
unidentified
Tear this whole place down around your ears.
Come on.
dan friesen
Let's not do that.
It's just a little much.
It's a little much.
It's a little cartoonish the way they are defining good and bad people now.
jordan holmes
I think it's really just sad, though, because it's like you obviously weren't actually fooled.
There's no possible way that you could be fooled by that shit.
You had to have known that they were lying the whole time and that they didn't really like Trump because Trump's a fucking lunatic and they're all career politicians.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is the payoff of that.
jordan holmes
If you don't know that, then, oh, that's just so sad, especially because I've been telling you that for my entire life.
dan friesen
And it's really interesting for me in particular to see the turning on people so bluntly and so stupidly.
Like Bill Barr was like, he went back and forth a number of times.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And now we have Barnes coming in here saying that everyone's an enemy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Bill Barr was a yo-yo for a while, and now he's permanently walking the dog.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's out.
So on the 17th, we learned that Barnes' show is gone.
alex jones
But on the 16th, he was so busy he couldn't post the election countdown, but he's back week nights 7 to 9 p.m. most nights with Yan Lorraine.
dan friesen
So on the 16th, he's promoting the show as Barnes is back.
He's been too busy, but now he's back.
unidentified
Very funny.
dan friesen
Next day, gone.
jordan holmes
That's very funny.
I think you're right.
I do kind of feel for David Knight a little bit.
He's losing his job right before Christmas.
I get it.
That's fucking tough.
I enjoy seeing bad things happen to Robert Barnes in a different way.
And I know that if he doesn't have his fucking moonlighting gig at Infowars, he's going to be fine scamming other people with fake constitutional lawsuits.
I think he just enjoy watching him get beat.
dan friesen
I think he has like a newsletter on Dave Rubin's Kickstarter Patreon clone.
jordan holmes
He's going to land five.
dan friesen
Doing all right.
So Alex says farewell to Barnes.
Say we'll see you on the evening show that won't exist in a day.
jordan holmes
Hilarious.
dan friesen
And now I must get to another guest.
And it is a guest that I got the privilege of hanging out with in D.C. when I was there yelling and all this shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Someone who had the best speech.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Well, there were a lot of powerful messages at the second Million MAGA march.
This one was about a third as big as the gigantic one that was a month ago.
There were still hundreds of thousands of people total, five or six different events going on.
But last time I had the most powerful message of we're not going to back down to the globalists, the new world order.
Biden's a Chi-Com agent.
Nick Fuentez had the most powerful message at these events.
The crowds are just screaming.
He couldn't even hardly give a speech.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Nick Fuentes had the best.
jordan holmes
That's who I thought it was going to be for sure.
dan friesen
It's interesting because I watched hours of these rallies.
Nick Fuentes did not speak at either of the rallies that I watched.
He was clearly speaking in some international statements.
jordan holmes
He was speaking in the beer hole punch.
Is that what's going on there?
dan friesen
He was speaking into a bullhorn on the street.
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was not at these events.
There might have been like a third event that I just don't even know about.
jordan holmes
The clan meeting?
dan friesen
I only have so much time in my life.
I can only watch so many of these rallies.
jordan holmes
That is fair.
dan friesen
So, you know, McConnell, Barrett, Kavanaugh, they're all the enemy now.
The GOP is the enemy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course it is.
alex jones
You know, I said Sunday when I had had a chance to see Saturday speeches by Fuentes on my Sunday show.
I said, I think Fuentez is right.
The Republican Party, the establishment are the enemies.
But we have to make sure that doesn't get Democrats elected.
We have to make sure we target neocons and others to get them out and put populists in America first in.
But now you see McConnell saying, oh, we need to be nice to the Democrats.
That's how we're going to win Georgia and let them engage in fraud.
He's definitely working for the other side and a Chi-Com operative.
dan friesen
That's not what McConnell is saying.
He's saying that, you know, insisting on denying reality is probably going to hurt our electoral chances.
jordan holmes
Hey, you guys, you know how you're screaming that all elections are frauds and that you shouldn't vote?
That's going to hurt us in the elections where we need you to vote.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, you're a Chinese agent.
jordan holmes
Oh, damn it.
Maybe I've gone too far.
I'm Mitch McConnell, so I will learn the error of my ways.
dan friesen
Nope.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
You will end up having the people that you have inspired and enabled and facilitated now screaming at rallies about how we need to destroy you.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
alex jones
But first, here's one of the eclipse of Nick Fuentez laying out the future and the future battle plan at the second big march in D.C. In the first Million MAGA march, we promised that if the GOP would not do everything in their power to keep Trump in office, then we would destroy the GOP.
unidentified
Yay!
Yeah!
And as we march, we're done making promises.
It has to happen now.
We are going to destroy the GOP.
Yes!
jordan holmes
There's 50 of us!
unidentified
Is there anything you love chanting?
Destroy the GOP!
dan friesen
They love chanting.
jordan holmes
They fucking chant all the goddamn time.
dan friesen
It's fun.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So Alex is, like, I think he sees that video and he remembers being in D.C.
And he remembers like kind of mad at those Women for America first.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't like how they organize these rallies and then don't let me speak at them because I'm entitled to.
alex jones
This is a parallel or an allegory or like a gauge on a submarine or battleship or an army tank or a truck.
jordan holmes
Give five.
alex jones
These women that are neocons, and I'm not going to attack them, but the point is they get all the permits.
They take control of the thing.
And then when you hear the speakers they've got, it is just people are falling asleep.
And then I show up with a bullhorn and Nick shows up and you get, you know, out of the 100,000 people, 20,000 that hear you, run over, and they're all cheering, and then it gets 5 million, 10 million views.
And then the poor Republicans with kind of a mainline rhino, a little Trumpist type deal, they get 20,000 views.
It's not popular.
It's not constitutional.
It's not what made America, but everyone's always running away from what victory is.
dan friesen
So Alex, I don't think is wrong.
I mean, he's exaggerating stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But a lot of those other speakers were a snooze.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Alex yelling has some kind of star quality to him.
jordan holmes
He gets people to change.
dan friesen
But he's also sort of misunderstanding spectacle for substance.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I don't think that there's anything, like, him being able to draw a crowd of 10,000, let's say, isn't an indication that he knows the Constitution.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's a difference for him between substance and spectacle.
alex jones
Nope.
jordan holmes
You know, it's not that he understands or misunderstands it, or it's just that it doesn't exist to him.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like 5 million views means 500 million people love this, right?
That's how it works.
Yeah, that's the only thing that makes sense.
dan friesen
Also, I'd like to clarify one thing.
These people starting these rallies and organizing them and getting the permits does mean that they can choose who speaks at it and who doesn't.
jordan holmes
Well, I feel like I'm missing the part where he's going to say, like, so next time we're going to get the permit.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He's not going to say that?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Well, see, because it feels like that's the real complaint here.
And he's just whining that he's not the winner.
dan friesen
He's too busy with all the work.
jordan holmes
He is not.
dan friesen
Psychic trances take a while.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I know somebody who just lost his job and is free.
dan friesen
I don't think he's going to fill those shoes.
So Nick Fuentes has an interesting idea for the way forward for these weirdo conservatives.
nick fuentes
You know, it's interesting.
There were a lot of Democrats that were saying, destroy the GOP.
This is a message I could get behind.
But of course, that's only the first half of the message.
Destroy the GOP as it exists.
Destroy the GOP establishment.
And what we have to do now is replace it with a GOP that truly represents the American people.
We have to destroy the fake GOP establishment headed by Mitch McConnell that puts America last.
We have to primary all those people, replace them in the House, in the Senate, in the state governments.
And we have to replace them with people that truly believe in America first, truly believe in the kind of conservatism that President Trump pushed when he ran in 2016.
dan friesen
Look, Nick Fuentes is like 14 years old, so I'm going to forgive him for not remembering that they did this already.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was called the Tea Party.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
This is the crazier version that you guys wanted the last time.
dan friesen
Yeah, this already happened.
We're in another cycle of this.
Like, oh, it's not the real, whatever.
Who cares?
I'm going to forgive that.
What I'm not going to forgive is the fact that he doesn't remember they did that this year.
jordan holmes
Yes, they did do that this year.
dan friesen
Laura Loomer was running.
All these other people.
Enrique Torio was going to run.
jordan holmes
Everybody lost their fucking primaries because the people that you end up attracting are not just because the GOP people in the primary thought they were voting for a GOP candidate because they've been in there for a while, but they were actually voting for a traitor.
dan friesen
Right.
Okay.
Got to go.
jordan holmes
There we go.
No, I think we should all be screaming.
dan friesen
I apologize.
I believe Loomer did win her primary.
That's true.
She lost in the general.
But a lot of those other folks lost in primaries.
jordan holmes
No, I think we should follow his employee Deanna LaRoy.
Yes, she might have won.
She did.
I think we should all be screaming at establishment Republicans that the only way that the GOP survives is if they all band together and crush the extreme right wing.
And I think we tell the extreme right wing that the only way the GOP survives is if they band together and crush the establishment Republicans.
dan friesen
I get the sense that at least half of that's going to happen on its own.
jordan holmes
That's probably true.
That's why we've got to make sure both happens.
Because if one half happens, we're going to get to the Tea Party and then double it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know if that's avoidable.
But interestingly, Nick Fuentes and Alex have slightly different strategies about what they should do in Florida.
I'm sorry, in Georgia.
nick fuentes
I'm of the belief that the first blow that we have to strike against the Republican Party is withholding our votes in Georgia, withholding our votes in the Senate runoff and preventing them from reclaiming control of the Senate.
alex jones
That's where I disagree with you.
dan friesen
Alex is like, hold on.
unidentified
Do it.
dan friesen
Hold on.
alex jones
Do it.
dan friesen
Alex is not into that.
He's like, nah, I don't know about that.
His position is like, yeah, if you're primarying some Republican with a crazy person, great.
I'm all for that.
But torpedoing the election just and letting a Democrat win, I don't know.
Whereas Nick Fuentes is we need to punish the Republican Party, withhold our votes.
He's very much like accelerationist towards this thing.
And Alex is more like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
These people disgust me.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Like straight up, how fucking cruel are you to me to be like, we're going to kill everybody with Trump as the king of God to the Lord and Jesus Christ.
And after losing the election, what we need to do is we need to focus on small elections and we need to primary the Republican.
dan friesen
Fuck you.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The Lord chose Trumpet, but the Lord also needs primaries from time to time.
dan friesen
Fuck off.
Yeah, what the Satan made God forget was county seats.
alex jones
Yeah, what?
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
So Nick has an interesting angle on QAnon.
nick fuentes
What I like about the QAnon stuff is that it gets a lot of people to believe the right things, although it gets them to believe the right things for the wrong reasons.
It gets them to start thinking about connections between global special interests.
It gets them to ask the right questions about pedophiles and satanic elites and things like that, largely for the wrong reasons, but it does get them to some of the right places.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate the hubris of all of these idiots who are like, you know what?
What we need to do is get the swirling masses to believe something similar to what I believe, and then I'll be able to control it.
dan friesen
It doesn't quite work that way.
jordan holmes
No, it doesn't.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Sorry, Fuentes.
dan friesen
But I will say, again, I'm going to give Nick a pass on this because he is a wee baby, but he seems to be patting himself on the back a little bit for discovering the concept of local policy.
unidentified
Of course.
nick fuentes
You know, Trump launched this hostile takeover of the top of the party.
I mean, literally becoming the president.
And now we have to wage war for everything beneath the presidency.
We have to wage war to primary House Republicans, Senate Republicans.
We have to run in state races and local races.
We have to take over the RNC and the party apparatus.
alex jones
I've not heard it better said.
That was perfectly said.
dan friesen
It's so trite.
jordan holmes
I have in 2018.
I have in 2016.
I have in 2014.
I have in 2012.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't, I don't, this is not revolutionary stuff.
This is very bland.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's kind of one of the things that I think is interesting and a little bit scary about Nick is that like beneath this, there's also an obsession with the idea of fighting against amnesty and identity and America.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like all this stuff.
But it is also like, okay, yeah, you're talking about running for like a local election.
You're running for like the school president or whatever.
Like that, that's the banality, the minutiae, the boringness of it with the evilness hidden behind it is kind of scary.
jordan holmes
Oh, Biden is stealing the election and he's killing all of us with the fucking globalists.
And that is why I'm going to vote no on the expansion of that road.
Route 6 stays the same length.
nick fuentes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Nick's out of there.
In and out, in and out.
Got to destroy the GOP.
alex jones
Got it.
dan friesen
Now, we're going to play a new game on this show.
I'm going to play an angry clip from Alex Jones.
without who it's targeted at.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And you have to guess.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Who is he yelling at that?
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I like this game.
dan friesen
This is called Guess Who Alex is Telling to Burn in Hell.
alex jones
Burn in Hell, you little Satanist, on a power trip about how great you are and how amazing you are and how ascendant you are as you bring in global collapse and extermination.
Burn in hell.
dan friesen
Who is Alex telling?
No, It's little.
jordan holmes
I thought the little one.
dan friesen
You can ask me.
jordan holmes
I can ask you two questions.
dan friesen
Two questions.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Rich or no?
dan friesen
Very.
jordan holmes
Very rich.
dan friesen
Very rich.
jordan holmes
Obscenely rich.
dan friesen
I don't know if I want to say obscenely, but quite rich.
jordan holmes
Quite rich.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
All right.
I want to give you five questions.
I wish I had asked a more specific question because very rich is a more subjective question that I think I would billion or higher.
dan friesen
Probably.
I don't know.
I have a really hard time.
jordan holmes
So not one of our major.
It's not Soros.
It's not two questions.
dan friesen
It's not that out of five.
jordan holmes
Damn it.
Have we mocked his or her appearance?
dan friesen
No.
What?
jordan holmes
No, no, not us.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
I met Alex.
I don't know why I'm saying we.
Alex hasn't mocked their appearance?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
Well, then it's definitely not stelter.
dan friesen
I'm not sure I've heard Alex bring this person up before.
jordan holmes
Well, this is unfair.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Little versus AOC.
I'm going to go with AOC.
dan friesen
He brings her up all the time.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit, that's right.
What was I thinking?
God damn it.
What was I thinking?
dan friesen
You have all the pieces you need.
jordan holmes
Bezos' wife.
No.
Okay.
unidentified
Tom Cruise.
jordan holmes
Oh, because of the clip of him yelling about COVID.
God damn it.
Oh, Dan.
You played the player.
dan friesen
Well done.
That's why we play the game.
jordan holmes
That's a good one to open with.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Nick Fuentes is gone.
Barnes has come on.
There's no indication of anything trouble in paradise, as it were.
And I get a little bit bored, honestly, listening to this episode now because, like, listen to this.
This is 30 seconds.
This is what Alex thinks has substance to it.
This is what he thinks his job is.
alex jones
Pompeo tests negative for COVID-19.
Well, quarantine.
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, it's so scary.
Even though it has a death rate of like 0.00, whatever.
It's almost an excuse for Tom Cruise and Nancy Pelosi to just act arrogant and scream at people and do whatever they want.
Over the counter home test for COVID-19 gets U.S. Green Line so we can have more hysteria, more fear.
Kansas mayor resigns over violent threats for backing mass mandate.
I don't feel safe anymore.
Well, move to North Korea, you witch.
dan friesen
That's it.
Like, this is the substance of his news breakdown.
Like, it's kind of like a dishy insult after reading that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, what is this?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is bad.
jordan holmes
Cruz didn't need that shit.
He gets to act like he owns everything and runs the place because he's the figurehead of a religion.
dan friesen
I also find it strange that Alex isn't taking issue with the Scientology aspect.
jordan holmes
No, no problem there.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Wow, that makes perfect sense, though.
dan friesen
So Alex has been dealing with Hayden, General Hayden, saying on Twitter that he agreed with someone else who tweeted that Alex should be arrested.
And Alex is pumped.
jordan holmes
Of course he is.
alex jones
Well, yesterday, I was getting more emails and more calls about CNN and all these publications saying Alex Jones may be arrested.
On Saturday, there were a lot of publications that said, and I gave a speech in D.C., did Jones threaten to kill Biden?
And then by Sunday, calls for Jones to be arrested for threatening to kill Joe Biden.
And then by Monday, Alex Jones to be arrested for threatening to kill Joe Biden.
That's how the media works, how they're gaslighting and fraud works.
dan friesen
Alex is so excited about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's got to give him a huge boner.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
Michael Hayden is paying attention to him in a way that he probably would never.
jordan holmes
I got months out of.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so now Alex is going to imply that maybe Michael Hayden's a pedophile.
alex jones
I mean, this is a stolen valor monster.
He also is involved with some very mysterious international orphanages and transfer of children.
I can tell you that's being looked into already.
I got contacted by some folks.
I'll just leave it at that.
And that's why I said he looks like a child molester.
I'm not saying he's a child molester.
I'm just saying Brian Stelter looks about as creepy as you'd get it.
You're not going to let him babysit your kids.
You'll get Hayden's own Twitter photo is the creepiest photo.
And please pull up Michael T. Hayden's Twitter, folks.
I want to show people he's like in a Steeler's cap on a mountaintop.
dan friesen
It's not that creepy.
jordan holmes
Sometimes I'm just not sure if things are real.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You know, I was listening to it.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
I was listening to that in my head, just part of this being like, is this real?
Am I dreaming?
What's happening?
What's going on?
dan friesen
It's pretty strange.
It's like, ah, this guy has tweeted something I dislike.
I am going to accuse him of stealing children from an orphanage because he looks creepy to me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
But Alex has a gotcha.
And he got this gotcha from, I don't know, I guess Harrison Smith, probably, someone who works at Infowars, scrolled through Hayden's Twitter timeline and found some things to get upset about.
jordan holmes
These guys are great researchers.
alex jones
He put out a bunch of tweets saying pro-life about Trump.
Thank you, Amy Covid Barrett, for a groundbreaking decision.
dan friesen
So what this is, is he had tweeted a picture of like Graves.
And it was from another account.
He had retweeted it with a quote tweet saying pro-life question mark.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's what's going on.
That's the first tweet.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
And then they put out, it's a joke account, an image of a mass grave implying that Trump's killing everybody because the Supreme Court ruled churches could be opened.
That's unconstitutional to close them.
But then literally days later, this is November 26.
Go to his Twitter and show people this, guys.
He puts out a Pittsburgh Steelers.
That's November 26th.
On November 27th, he tweets, let's do some football.
Pittsburgh proud.
Happy birthday.
No social distancing.
NFL game.
Now, folks, again, imagine the irony of this.
He's saying Trump is mass graving people.
Trump is murdering people because a Baptist or Catholic church or Buddhist temple or mosque can be open with 10 people, 1,000, whatever.
Walmart can be open.
Target can be open.
Disneyland can be open.
But your churches can't.
Liquor stores are open.
All this is going on, but he's a big Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
They actually work with Pittsburgh Steelers.
Oh, I'm stalking you, Hayden.
Open source, baby.
dan friesen
Open source, baby.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So that gif that he tweeted was from last season in the football.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Back when there were huge crowds for sporting events.
It's just a GIF of Steelers fans putting their towels in the air.
Great.
Yeah.
It's not a gotcha.
It's not.
No, it's an old picture.
jordan holmes
Nah, the only thing sadder than reading those tweets is scrolling through his timeline to find those tweets.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then Alex thinking that this is like an own.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
I got you.
dan friesen
I got you, Hayden.
jordan holmes
Open source.
Yeah, that's not good.
Log off the internet.
Get off the internet.
When you read too much about tweets, you know, you can read everybody, reading one tweet is too many tweets.
But when you read about tweets, now we're in real time.
dan friesen
That's what a whole lot of like national file articles are about.
They're just about someone's tweets.
jordan holmes
So fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems trivial.
So I was getting a little bit like, I don't know.
I feel untethered.
I don't know what's going on here.
I feel like it's really important that Alex is downsizing.
jordan holmes
Well, I got news for you.
Effective immediately, Dan.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
You are fired.
dan friesen
That's all right.
jordan holmes
Sorry.
dan friesen
It doesn't feel at all like anything is going on here on the 16th.
It seems very much just business as usual.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it kind of was boring me.
It's just Nick Fuentes has a great idea to destroy the GOP, but also I don't want to do what Nick Fuentes is suggesting in order to destroy the GOP.
Yeah.
And then the Democrats would have seats, and I don't like that.
jordan holmes
I don't like that.
dan friesen
And I just kind of like, I don't know.
And then Patrick, I can't remember his last name.
It'll come to me later.
jordan holmes
Dempsey.
dan friesen
No.
He's the guy who's the Overstock CEO who was dating Russian spy.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Betina.
jordan holmes
Bettina, that's right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's back, and he has an interesting story to tell.
jordan holmes
He and the My Pillow Guy should have a tag team wrestling team, like something.
dan friesen
I didn't bring this up.
This guy, Patrick, the Overstock CEO, introduced Michael Flynn at the rally.
jordan holmes
Of course he did.
Yeah, why wouldn't I know that?
Why wouldn't I just agree with that?
dan friesen
I didn't bring that up on the show because his speech was kind of like, I don't care.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But he is back with Alex.
And man, he has got a big old story to tell.
alex jones
I believe your story.
I know there were a lot of stings on Hillary.
She was very arrogant.
She was taking over, what, $2 billion from different governments, individuals, anybody that would give her money, she'd give them access.
That's what the email server shows.
I know the Southern District has been investigating her.
I know they've been investigating Hunter.
When you came out and said this, and I saw the video yesterday, I said, that's the same stuff I got told that there were successful stings on Hillary, but then when they thought she was going to win, that all got scrubbed and that the Justice Department has all that info and has been protecting her.
So thanks for joining us.
You've got the floor here to give us the latest.
dan friesen
So Alex has played a clip of Patrick from another show.
Sure.
And he's telling this story that he got approached by the FBI to facilitate a sting operation on Hillary Clinton.
And then eventually they're like, yeah, we're not going to do anything.
We got her, you know, taking a bribe from a foreign country.
But we're not going to do anything about it.
And then Patrick didn't say anything about it until four or four years or whatever.
jordan holmes
That's odd.
dan friesen
He seems credible.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
patrick m byrne
I wondered as you were playing that.
Why have me on?
You just played.
I told the story on another show, but I'll give you some more detail.
This is true.
By the way, I'm in an incredibly precarious situation.
Well, I've already.
alex jones
No, I want you.
You want to know why you did it?
I have a good idea.
The country's in trouble.
It's time for us all to give our maximum.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, I mean, hell with it.
I've been getting myself an ulcer for two years wanting to come out, but being told, trust the process, trust the process, trust the process.
About a year ago, there was a conversation or a communication between myself and Powers That Be that said, I'm not comfortable being part of a cover-up.
And they said, you wait till after the election, after the election, you can say whatever the hell you want to say.
Tell the whole story.
jordan holmes
So I waited for the reaction of them.
patrick m byrne
And I couldn't live with myself if I'm not coming out about it now.
dan friesen
So he's got it.
He's got to tell his story now because the election's over.
Free to tell it all.
jordan holmes
Throw tomatoes at this man.
Throw tomatoes at this man.
dan friesen
In 2015, December 2015.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Coming up on five years.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He was approached.
Approached by the FBI.
jordan holmes
Of course.
patrick m byrne
And they said in December of 2015, we need you.
This is word for word.
I have something called an eidetic memory.
When I tell you something, it's word for word.
It's word for word.
They came back and said, the FBI is asking for your help again.
There are two groups investigating the FBI in the FBI investigating Hillary Clinton, Patrick.
One is the email group, and we know that's a whitewash, but there's a group in New York who really wants to put her ass in stir.
They're going after financials, the Clinton financials.
Comey has been blocking them from acting, saying there wasn't enough to justify them going aggressive in their investigative techniques.
dan friesen
I don't know if it should be seen as normal that an investigation starts with wanting to incarcerate somebody.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's probably not.
dan friesen
It seems like that's a tainted investigation.
jordan holmes
It's almost like one that wouldn't really hold up upon him.
dan friesen
And it seems like if any of this is true, which I don't think any of it is, Comey might have been coming from a position of there's no reason to engage in an investigation like this.
jordan holmes
It could be a cover-up, or it could also be, you guys are telling me that you want to talk to the CEO of Overstock.com to try and sting Hillary Clinton?
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Guess who doesn't get to do that?
You guys.
Go away now.
dan friesen
Can I show all of my cards?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't believe any of this.
jordan holmes
I will say this.
dan friesen
I believe the CEO is making this shit up.
jordan holmes
Right off the bat, the only thing eidetic about this guy's memory is that he was able to remember the word eidetic.
dan friesen
He did memorize that.
That is bullshit.
So here's the deal: Turkey has already bribed Hillary Clinton for $20 million.
unidentified
Wow, sure.
dan friesen
So now we just need to get Patrick to facilitate another bribe.
jordan holmes
Okay.
patrick m byrne
They were saying that Comey had been saying up to that point there was not enough predicate information to justify a sting.
However, Patrick, they told me information has come in that Hillary's accepted a bribe.
She took a $20 million bribe from Turkey.
And that information has come in, and the group in New York has now used that as leverage to force Comey to sign off on a sting.
And he has approved a sting, and the New York group is sending to you for you to help.
And you're going to facilitate a bribe.
And there's another government that was known to want to bribe Hillary Clinton.
jordan holmes
He has an identic memory.
patrick m byrne
You're going to befriend that government.
You're going to befriend the bag man in that government.
And somewhere, and it's going to happen in the next two months, Patrick, somewhere there's going to be a room.
unidentified
And Hillary Clinton walks into that room where the bagman's in that room.
alex jones
Sure, it's like all the time.
It's very formulaic.
patrick m byrne
Well, it was a very specific thing they told me that there's going to be a room.
She's going to come in for 10 minutes.
The bag man's going to be in for 10 minutes.
They're going to be there alone.
And that's it.
That's your assignment.
dan friesen
So he's got to befriend this government, some unnamed other government.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the government.
dan friesen
And insinuate himself in such a way that he can be a go-between between the bagman and Hillary Clinton to get this.
unidentified
By the way, I'm just going to throw this out there as like a huge question.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
For this story, I'm just going to go out and say, why did they come to him?
Does he have experience cozying up to governments or in any sort of like he did hate that Russian spy?
See, now I think that might be a bigger red flag here.
dan friesen
He started overstock.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't buy any of this.
It's so complicated, and I just can't imagine any of this.
jordan holmes
We know you're dating a compromise agent of a foreign government.
dan friesen
I don't know the timeline on that.
jordan holmes
I'm not sure to be our sting guy.
dan friesen
I don't know the timeline on that.
It might have been at a different point in his life.
That said, this is also a sting on that Bagman because that other government isn't going.
They think that this is a real thing.
Bribe.
jordan holmes
No, the whole sting is planned.
The Bagman is not in it.
dan friesen
So now the foreign government is trying to entrap Hillary Clinton along with the help of the FBI.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
I think the only people that are not interested is Turkey.
They want their money back.
I guess that's it.
dan friesen
Get me the overstock guy.
So, look, I think that Patrick had a really reasonable response to this.
It's that, hey, man, if I do this, I'm going to commit crimes.
You better not arrest me for those crimes I commit in order to set this up.
jordan holmes
I need immunity.
This sounds like somebody writing a much better movie where they didn't commit all the crimes that they did.
Instead, they were not crimes.
dan friesen
This is the clip where it really turned for me from a like, ah, story to a, ooh.
patrick m byrne
They gave me that, and so it's up to me how to create that event.
So it's all up to me.
And I told them, look, to make that happen, there's going to be some bribing and stuff.
And I need something called an axe otherwise illegal letter, which is a letter they can give you when they're asking you to do something like this, like get involved in a federal election and bribe someone.
And they went back, and I see the time.
I'll finish this in 45 seconds and then we'll continue the story.
I'll finish this part.
They said, we'll have to go back to the office and discuss it.
They came back in two days and said, word for word now, we've been told to tell you we can't give you a letter, but if you'll come to D.C., the director says you can be shown a letter.
And I said, oh, this is coming from Director Comey.
And two federal agents looked me in the eye and said, and I said, oh, this is coming from Director Comey and the president.
And two federal agents looked me in the eye and said, and I said, well, you can tell Director Comey and President Obama that from them is good enough for me.
Consider Hillary Brown.
Come back.
alex jones
Tell me right back.
Oh, so it's Obama's ride.
This is why this is so big.
And we know the Obamas and the Clintons don't like each other.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
So this is 2015.
Wow.
Obama is like, it's time to take Hill down.
It's time to take her down.
I had her as Secretary of State for long enough, and now we just got to get rid of her.
dan friesen
Well, it starts to make sense when they come back from break and they lay out more of what the conspiracy is here.
But yes, it is a little bit hard to put your head around like, ah, yes, Obama is trying to sting for stinging.
jordan holmes
Also, also, stop me real quick.
Because I could be wrong.
Is it regular practice for the FBI to clandestinely come to you and say, we need you to sting the most famous woman in the world?
And let me tell you this: we've got no ideas.
Go for it, buddy.
However, you think you can make this sting happen, we're not even giving you help.
dan friesen
You're basically MacGyver.
unidentified
Yeah.
And what?
dan friesen
Look.
You know what to do.
Look, we here at the FBI don't like to micromanage.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Comey said.
Yes.
Comey said, do your thing.
dan friesen
Just do your thing.
jordan holmes
Obama, famously lax.
dan friesen
Secret super spy guy from Overstock.
jordan holmes
Sell me on this story more.
I'm just a more.
dan friesen
I'm imagining this guy just like coming in from the ceiling on wires.
Apparently, that's my only image of spy work.
Yeah, basically, yeah.
So, Patrick, they come back from break, and he says something really interesting that makes me think, like, oh, he might know more about Alex than he's letting on.
patrick m byrne
When the dust settles, everyone's going to see the mainstream press, they're the kooks, that they are, they're trying to, they're part of this.
They're trying to keep people from understanding what they're seeing in front of them.
And good for you.
So, respect.
I'm trying to say any gracious way.
I don't know about your past beliefs.
Respect.
The only thing is, I want to be clear.
I have nothing to do with anything white identitarianism.
I assume you're on the same.
alex jones
Oh, that's what I mean.
Well, I mean, the media says Trump's a Nazi.
I wouldn't support Trump if he was.
It's all pure crap.
dan friesen
Why?
Why did you need to bring up?
jordan holmes
Apropos of nothing, I am just going to be here on InfoWars saying that I don't believe in any of this white identitarian nonsense, just in case anyone asks.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Granted, I have not taken as many media appearances as some.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I've never found that I needed to distance myself from white identitarianism in any appearances.
Seems like if you do that, it kind of is because you know that the person you're talking to might have some leanings in that direction.
Or maybe you're just sitting there thinking, like, oh, I'm being interviewed after Nick Fuentes.
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, this is a really complicated kind of situation.
Look, before we go any further, I just want to let you know that I do not support the actions of the thuggy cult from Temple of Doom.
I don't support that.
I don't know why I need to say that here.
Apropos of nothing.
dan friesen
Raises questions.
So the sting, it works.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
They succeed.
They pull it up.
jordan holmes
I forgot.
This ends with a success.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And then the cover-up.
dan friesen
Oh, it was so good.
unidentified
Yeah, okay.
jordan holmes
I got you.
dan friesen
Patrick pulled off probably the best sting since the sting.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
That sounds right.
And then things fell apart.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
patrick m byrne
So back to the, let me, I don't want to skip the punchline on all this.
So they told me I needed to forget it.
And I said, why?
And they said, look, it's been decided at the top.
We've realized there's no Hillary, nothing's going to stop Hillary Clinton from being president now.
And the day she's president, she's going to send her men over to the FBI, her people over to the FBI, and ask who is part of investigating Hillary.
And everyone who's part of this, Patrick, we're all going to be destroyed from the top to the bottom.
And this includes you, Patrick.
So it's been decided at the very top.
This mission has been scrubbed.
And we mean it.
You have to wipe every moment of this from your memory.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
But it's identic.
He can't.
patrick m byrne
Yes, sir.
I understand.
dan friesen
I don't believe any of this.
jordan holmes
None of it.
dan friesen
But I want to be clear about something.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you make a claim like this, what we should do as a society is immediately put you in front of the most serious court that is imaginable.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Produce evidence because the stakes of this are way too high.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
dan friesen
If you are telling the truth, the stakes and the importance for the public good is so important that you cannot not prove it.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
If you are lying, you need to go to prison because the stakes are so serious in that side, too.
You can't be allowed to make these sorts of claims that are about international espionage and plots against society and just do it with impunity.
If you can't prove this, you can't make claims like this.
That's how I would like to see things shake up.
jordan holmes
I imagine a system of pneumatic tubes where you make a claim like this and then all of a sudden and then you're in the court and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what just happened?
dan friesen
But it should not be a situation where you're punished.
It shouldn't be punitive unless you're clearly making this shit up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's just too, it's too serious.
jordan holmes
No, I think, and I think with swings this big, we're not dealing with quite as much nuance in the law.
dan friesen
This seems like it would be incredibly easy to prove.
jordan holmes
Very simple.
Very simple.
dan friesen
If he's telling the truth, there'd be so much documentation.
I don't care about him saying, oh, you have to wipe it from your memory.
Well, guess what?
Hillary didn't become president.
So all that fear of her reprising against people didn't come to pass.
There'll probably be tons of people within the FBI who would corroborate your story.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm going to guess that you remember the bag man's name.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
Maybe the country that bribed Hillary.
I don't know.
This is so offensive to me.
jordan holmes
So if I understand correctly, the timeline of the story goes thus.
dan friesen
December 2016.
jordan holmes
December 2, 2015.
All right.
He kicks ass on the sting, gets all the way to somewhere in 2015 where everybody in the higher version of the family decided that Hillary is going to win.
All right.
So they've just decided that it's over, right?
And then Hillary doesn't win.
And I believe that was the same year, correct?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then there was the new president on 2017.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Now.
dan friesen
January.
jordan holmes
If I were somebody who had just successfully executed a sting operation on Hillary Clinton, who was not president.
Someone who is famous, not just not president, but someone who lost to the guy who screamed, lock her up.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And like the whole big crowds of people chanting that.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't wait until after he had lost his election to tell people.
I would go to him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If you were inclined to take the gigantic risks involved in that kind of espionage sting operation.
jordan holmes
Again, Hillary Clinton.
dan friesen
Involving a foreign government.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you're willing to take those kinds of risks, I would assume, yeah, once Trump won, you'd be like, I got to get in a row.
jordan holmes
Now we get to do this whole thing.
Now I get to arrest Hillary Clinton.
dan friesen
I did all the work.
It wasn't for nothing.
unidentified
They probably will let me do it.
jordan holmes
Like, I'll put the handcuffs on her.
dan friesen
I think that that didn't happen because it didn't happen.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with that one.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That one sounds reasonable.
dan friesen
So I was kind of confused about the idea that Obama was behind this, but Patrick does clear that up here.
patrick m byrne
And after some hemming and hawing, eventually the following story was expressed to me.
And it runs like this.
Patrick, what you need to understand, so this is late January 2016.
What you need to understand is President Obama, and this is word for word, from there's really four federal people of different types involved, and this is word for word.
Patrick, you need to understand that at this point, President Obama has his people across the federal bureaucracy, but especially in the Department of Justice.
Hillary Clinton is going to be president for eight years, and nothing is going to change that.
But think of it this way: think where there's being a Bunsen burner within the Department of Justice.
And on that Bunsen burner, that information about the two bribes you were part of gathering, that'll be sitting there.
But the hand on the Bunsen burner is going to be one of Barack Obama's people.
If Hillary Clinton is a good girl and defends Obamacare and such, that flame stays low.
If she's a bad girl and gets thinking for herself, that flame gets turned up.
And that way, Barack Obama is going to manage Hillary Clinton for the eight years.
alex jones
That's exactly what the Fed's.
I just said, turn the burner right away.
patrick m byrne
Don't step on the line.
You don't want to step on this line, Alex.
alex jones
Okay, back to the Bunsen burner.
patrick m byrne
Two or three more sentences.
dan friesen
Hey, the story is too good, Alex.
You're interrupting.
jordan holmes
Do you know how many times people with an eidetic memory say, and this is word for word, mind you?
dan friesen
They do say that a lot, I would imagine.
They say it.
jordan holmes
But also, they say it initially one time.
And then you're like, oh, shit, you're telling the truth.
They don't repeat it over and over and over again in the same story.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Obama was going to manage Hillary because he had this leverage on her with this bribe that the overstock CEO managed to pull off.
Right.
And so here's what Alex stepped on.
patrick m byrne
Two or three more sentences.
That way, Barack Obama, for the whole time Hillary Clinton's president, Barack Obama's going to be managing her.
And she's going to step down and Michelle's going to run.
And Patrick, that's the plan.
unidentified
What?
Still?
alex jones
Say that again because I didn't mess up the punchline.
The bunch and burger can be turned up.
It can be turned down.
patrick m byrne
It can step down.
And that way, Barack Obama is going to manage Hillary Clinton for the eight years she's president.
Then she's going to step down and Michelle's going to run.
And Patrick, that's the plan.
alex jones
Wow, that makes perfect sense with Biden being an excuse.
Literal zombie.
dan friesen
Yeah, it makes so much sense.
jordan holmes
Perfect sense.
dan friesen
This ridiculous story that this dude is telling on your show, you just take without any kind of critical.
jordan holmes
That just makes so much sense.
dan friesen
No real follow-up questions as to what the fuck are you talking about?
Nothing like that.
No, he gets to the end of the story.
This was an Obama setup so he could blackmail Hillary and then eight years, he'd be the shadow president behind Hillary and then his wife would be president after that.
This is just absurd.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
But kind of fun.
jordan holmes
It is kind of fun.
dan friesen
A little fun.
jordan holmes
I do like that he thinks that it's such a great punchline that it's Michelle that's going to run.
patrick m byrne
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Like you, you understand that we on InfoWars have been screaming about Michelle Obama becoming president since 2009, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah, they've been on that train for a while.
jordan holmes
You are not going to blow my mind with a Michelle is the secret at the end of this conspiracy, you know?
dan friesen
Right.
I also just, I just don't think that there's a good use for this conspiracy because it takes some of the agency away from their biggest bad person, which is the Clintons.
jordan holmes
No, it's like McConnell, the secret one was Obama.
It's double Obama.
dan friesen
No, Hillary is like the devil that you have to be afraid of.
It doesn't make sense for her to then be a Patsy of Obama.
It's emotionally unsatisfying for the InfoWars universe.
Also, just prove any of this, Dick.
jordan holmes
I think it's a fun shit talking story.
And if he wrote this down and he was like, I'm going to try and sell this to people, one, he needs to get better at his delivery because I don't buy this shit at all.
dan friesen
Two, this delivery doesn't matter how bad it is without him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And three, Patrick says he has two more bombshells that are coming eventually.
jordan holmes
Get the f ⁇ .
dan friesen
So we may have bigger swings coming in the future.
alex jones
All right.
dan friesen
But we're going to have to wait for those.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
I would love for you to release your next bombshells next Monday if you'd like.
Whenever you'd like here on air, we appreciate you.
We appreciate your time.
And thank you so much for coming on on short notice.
patrick m byrne
And Jollah, Alex.
unidentified
And if I'm still alive, I'll come back on Monday and tell you a little bit more.
alex jones
All right, meet me too.
I hear you.
dan friesen
You'll be fine.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
This just reminds me of the Jerome Coursey might die over the weekend.
He's got a dead man switch.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, man.
No, I can't come back on Monday, Alex.
It's going to take me at least another week to write that.
I mean, I can't remember.
Oh, no, I have an eidetic memory.
unidentified
I mean, vacation.
jordan holmes
Smoke bomb.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that was an interesting kind of, I don't know, change of pace.
Yeah, John just.
jordan holmes
That's a little junk.
dan friesen
Yeah, I found that to be just.
jordan holmes
I feel like I got took down the garden path for a nice little walk, and now we've come back to the house, and we shall return.
dan friesen
I also like the idea, too, that this Patrick guy is clearly someone who has some status, at least in his own mind.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He'll tell Alex, you stepped on my punchline.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm going to say these things.
jordan holmes
I've made a lot of money.
dan friesen
He has a little bit of flex on him, which is kind of fun.
jordan holmes
That is.
dan friesen
But I also was thinking, all right, this guy's clearly a little nutty.
Is he the new Larry?
Is he the new Larry Nichols?
He's got a Clinton conspiracy.
jordan holmes
That would be good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I wonder.
Here's what I wonder.
Wait.
Stevie Pease wasn't on today, right?
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I'm wondering when exactly Stevie Pease is coming back.
dan friesen
Probably tomorrow.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
No, but that's what I'm saying.
What if there's a larger thing going on between Stevie and David Knight?
And now Steve's not even going to be coming back for a little while.
So we got Overstock Guy to try and thread the needle of a Steve and a guy.
dan friesen
He has so much of the Steve and so much of the Larry all in one.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Put them in one.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
It's tough for me because, you know, we get blindsided by this news about the David Knight.
And then, you know, as I look into the episode itself, you know, you find that, oh, maybe there's massive downsizing.
Or maybe this is yet again Alex overplaying some kind of desperation in order to move product.
Who knows?
I don't know.
I have no idea what's going on there.
Things don't look good.
And it makes me even more suspicious when the day before, there's really no indication of anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's no trouble.
He's promoting the countdown, election countdown show that now apparently can't continue.
It's weird.
It's a little bit out of nowhere.
jordan holmes
Here's my pitch on, here's my conspiracy now.
This is what I've got for you on this whole thing.
All right.
InfoWars, not doing great right now.
Not going to go out of business, but they're not doing great right now.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And these months, this little couple of weeks, you know what?
Everybody takes a Christmas vacation.
And if you took a Christmas vacation, that wouldn't be that exciting.
We're in the middle of fighting the goddamn InfoWar.
You can't just go out on vacation.
dan friesen
I see what you're doing.
jordan holmes
So what we do is we say we got to let you go.
I save money on overhead costs for a couple of weeks.
After the big Christmas sale, we get all the way to the next one.
Oh, for sure.
After the big Christmas sale, we get all the money in.
And then I'm like, guys, we're bringing David Knight back.
dan friesen
And we've retooled his show.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be interesting.
jordan holmes
That would be interesting.
dan friesen
I don't know if they could pull that off.
jordan holmes
I don't think so either.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm interested to see what ends up happening, but not that interested.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I want them to do some work to make me interested in it.
Yes.
dan friesen
Make me care.
jordan holmes
Make me care.
Fight.
Do something for my amusement.
dan friesen
The other thing, too, that I think is really key is that Alex is about to enter a very profitable space, which is returning to the attacking the GOP.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like purity in the GOP kind of thing is a really, really profitable sector for right-wing talk shows.
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's worked for millions of years.
dan friesen
Right.
But he also has never had to do it while there were large funded competitors.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't know if he can beat OAM.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's difficult whenever you also have like because before you had Fox News crashing the tea party wing, just like, fuck yeah, let's ride or die on killing everybody.
But Alex even then still got to exist in that space of like, everybody sucks and I hate them all, but Obama's the devil and that whole thing.
But Fox News wasn't also hating Mitch McConnell at the time.
dan friesen
No, they did have Glenn Beck being a little nutty, conspiracy-ish.
jordan holmes
But Glenn Beck didn't have two networks that they were competing.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Right, right.
I'm saying that Alex did have some competition in the form of Glenn Beck, but Alex was still like, he would say a lot of shit that Glenn Beck probably wouldn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so, I don't know.
I don't know substantially what he can do to differentiate himself from the competitors now.
jordan holmes
A good job, I think, is the only thing he could do, and I don't think he's capable of that.
dan friesen
Don't think it's possible.
Based on this interview with the overstock guy, I don't think it's possible.
jordan holmes
I don't think we're seeing that kind of turnaround.
dan friesen
Certainly not.
jordan holmes
It's a Christmas miracle.
dan friesen
No.
We'll be back, folks.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgevy.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's AdKnowledge University of Fight Not Go to Bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook?
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out those doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
unidentified
I'm more like outofstock.com.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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