#509: December 3-4, 2020
Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the end of last week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex reveals that Joe Rogan is a hero, William Barr is a double agent (at least), and Scotch Eggs are whiskey-flavored.
Dec. 7, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
01:27:28
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| Sure, hit me. | ||
| What's your bright spot this week? | ||
| My bright spot today is, so I've not taken part in too much of, like, ordering food from places. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| I've tried to keep that limited because it's expensive and stuff, and I like to keep things kind of special. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I realized that I hadn't had Taco Bell in a long time, And so I decided to order some Taco Bell delivery, which is a nice thing. | ||
| Reliving those comic days. | ||
| I couldn't imagine that being something you could do. | ||
| Oh, totally, totally. | ||
| It's like, pizza's delivered, Chinese food's delivered, and that is it. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| So that was kind of fun. | ||
| But I noticed something on the menu that I had never seen before. | ||
| It was like an aged cheddar chalupa. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so it was like a chalupa kind of thing, but it had, like, cheese. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, as if, you know, it's like an Asiago cheese crust. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I do always like it when the fast food all of a sudden is like, ah, this is our artisan-aged cheese. | ||
| Very ambitious. | ||
| Very pretentious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I had to try it, because, you know, you got to. | ||
| And it was... | ||
| So good. | ||
| It was also terrible. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| I got it and I was like, oh wow, this crunchiness of the cheese is really complimenting the... | ||
| I'm like, what am I thinking? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What am I doing here? | ||
|
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It's fucking Taco Bell. | |
| Why am I fucking... | ||
| Highfalutin-ass Taco Bell. | ||
| Is this the Great British Baking Show? | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| Yeah, but I enjoyed it quite a bit. | ||
| You know, you gotta find the light where it exists. | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| I won't provide too many spoilers here, but Dan, as you might be aware, I'm a bit of a fan of Star Wars. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Have you heard of Star Wars? | ||
| Yes, I have. | ||
| Okay, it's pretty good. | ||
| That's the one with the Enterprise, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The one with the Enterprise, the guys that have the uniforms. | ||
| Klingons? | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Ferengis? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Got little things on his head. | ||
| There's that guy Q who's now ruining our world. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Is that where he came from? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So, yeah, Mandalorian. | ||
| Huge fan watching. | ||
| Baby Yoda. | ||
| Yes, Baby Yoda. | ||
| See, I can have conversations. | ||
| He has a name now. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Trouble. | ||
| Should I try and guess it? | ||
| I think you should. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Pete. | ||
| No, really close, though. | ||
| Brogu. | ||
| Grogu. | ||
| Very close to Pete. | ||
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Grogu? | |
| Grogu, I know. | ||
| It's Baby Yoda forever. | ||
| That's a Star Wars name. | ||
| Everyone agrees that it's Baby Yoda forever. | ||
| Right, yeah. | ||
| Grogu. | ||
| Again, no spoilers. | ||
| Except for the name of Baby Yoda. | ||
| That's a spoiler. | ||
| No, that's not a spoiler. | ||
| You find out that was last episode. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So that was a while back. | ||
| Okay, it's a spoiler in case you're a week behind. | ||
| Also, is it a spoiler to know Grogu is his name? | ||
| You immediately forget Grogu and you're like, that's Baby Yoda. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No one cares. | ||
| Not my Grogu. | ||
| Hashtag. | ||
| No, so this episode, most recent one, a character came back. | ||
| Who made me extremely, extremely happy in a very lovely way. | ||
| The second season has been basically... | ||
| Do you remember Fun Dip? | ||
| I don't want to be a dick in case it's right, but my instinct is to joke that it's Jar Jar Binks. | ||
| Ooh, no! | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Beloved is... | ||
| He's a great character. | ||
| No. | ||
| Shit, where was I? | ||
| You just broke my conversation. | ||
| You said Fun Dip. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| The second season has been Fun Dip. | ||
| You know, it's the sugar stick that you're dipping in more sugar to eat. | ||
| Like, everything has been junk food, and it has been incredible, and I love it so much. | ||
| That metaphor falls apart because Fun Dip sucks. | ||
| Yeah, Fun Dip does suck. | ||
| I mean, it's a sugar overload, is my point. | ||
| Even if it's all just sugar, even as a kid, I didn't want any Fun Dip. | ||
| Oh, I loved Fun Dip. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| That stick was disgusting. | ||
| I chewed on that stick like it was my friend. | ||
| Like it was a milkabone and you were a stray dog. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that. | ||
| It's delicious. | ||
| I feel like my plan is watch The Mandalorian once there's like five seasons of it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I can just watch it all. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Yeah, I have that relationship with TV shows. | ||
| I want there to be multiple seasons of it that I can binge. | ||
| Because if I like it, I don't want to stop watching it. | ||
| I know Netflix was the first. | ||
| Place to just release the whole... | ||
| Was it like Daredevil or something that was the first show where they were like, we're putting all 12 episodes out, and then I'm no longer able to watch episodic television. | ||
| It started earlier than that for me, or at least the challenge of it. | ||
| And I think it's because what I would do is I would come to shows late, because I don't buy the hype. | ||
| I don't want to get tricked by people saying, this is the best thing ever. | ||
| I like that's your relationship. | ||
| I don't want to get tricked by these liars who like stuff. | ||
| A lot of television is reliant on cliffhanger-y nonsense. | ||
| Sure, that's true. | ||
| Especially hour-long dramas. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So if you're watching it week to week, the experience of that is so much more engrossing and it can trick you into liking things that you don't actually like all that much. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So I always try and give things a little bit of time. | ||
| Give it a little space. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so Lost, I started in season four or something like that. | ||
| And the experience of watching the prior three seasons all in a row was pretty gratifying. | ||
| Yeah, I think that happens to a lot of people with The Wire where they're like, it takes three episodes to get into it. | ||
| And I imagine if I started watching episodically, I'd watch the first episode and be like, eh, I'm good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if you'd say I'm good, but it would be a different experience. | ||
| It would be harder. | ||
| But yeah. | ||
| Anyway, television. | ||
| Models have changed. | ||
| Yes, this is us. | ||
| Commentary, cultural. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about December 3rd and 4th, 2020. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| This is 2020. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| 2020's great forever now! | ||
| Yay! | ||
| I started listening to the episode with Rogan, Alex's interview, a four-hour-long interview with Joe Rogan. | ||
| Riveting stuff they talked about. | ||
| They were stoned in the first minute. | ||
| Just policy, real questions getting into the nitty-gritty of universal basic. | ||
| I made it like 15 minutes in and I was like, I'll do an episode about this eventually probably. | ||
| It's so annoying. | ||
| To give you some context, Alex's first real question he asks is like, at what point did you realize that you were really famous but you can do whatever you want to do? | ||
| That's a great question. | ||
| And Rogan's answer is something along the lines of like, You know what I like about smoking weed is it makes me think about more interesting things. | ||
| That is a fair point. | ||
| Almost a way of like, yeah, that's a dumb question. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| That is a fair point on him. | ||
| So I just, I didn't have it in me to do that for this episode. | ||
| So we're talking about Thursday and Friday on the Alex Jones program. | ||
| Alrighty. | ||
| We're going to see if he's going to continue his ideas about moving to D.C. and living outside. | ||
| I think it's a good idea. | ||
| Spoiler alert, no updates on that. | ||
| No updates on that. | ||
| Did he even mention it? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I didn't think so. | ||
| I'm thinking about it more than you. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| So we'll get to business on this episode, but before we do, we've got to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who've signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| That sounds like a great idea. | ||
| Yeah, so first, great name, Dan from Colorado. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Dan. | ||
| Thank you, Dan. | ||
| Next, Kia, I love you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Kia. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Wait, the cars? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Next, Minnow the Cat, and it's M-I-N-N-O-H. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Minnow the Cat. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Next, Lang J, L-A-N-G, last initial J. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Lang. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Next, Patrick S. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Patrick. | ||
| Next, Ewing King. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Ewing King. | ||
| Like Patrick Ewing King. | ||
| Yeah, there's only one king, and that's Patrick Ewing. | ||
| Patrick Ewing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Next, Kasmic, and it's spelled K-H-A-S-M-E-K. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, Biohazard. | ||
| And finally, Biohazard. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Biohazard! | ||
| If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support with these gents, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or... | ||
| What you could do is you could take that feeling of generosity, you can put it into the rocket launcher that you have affixed to your back, directly on top of your rocket pack, of course. | ||
| You can bend down... | ||
| Just a little bit because a rocket launcher affixed to your back is a terrible idea. | ||
| Pull your scope up and you fire that rocket launcher into the Imperial cruise ship of whatever charity that you are looking for. | ||
| I think that one makes sense. | ||
| Was that a spoiler? | ||
| No, it was not. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Good. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, December 3rd... | ||
| Not a great episode. | ||
| December 4th, there's a little bit more going on, but I did find a delightful out-of-context drop, which I will share with you right now. | ||
| Jennifer Fleck, you're a constitutional lawyer, a patriot. | ||
| There's Admiral Atbar from Return of the Jedi. | ||
| Hey, Star Wars! | ||
| See, it all makes sense now. | ||
| You love Star Wars. | ||
| It's all coming back. | ||
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It's a trap! | |
| I love the idea that Alex is like, you're a great constitutional lawyer. | ||
| Hey, there's Admiral Ackbar. | ||
| Hey, there's Admiral Ackbar over there. | ||
| It's like the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade has a constitutional lawyer float. | ||
| Weirdly, I think that perfectly sums up Alex's show. | ||
| It does, kind of. | ||
| Talking to some nonsense person he's calling a constitutional lawyer and getting distracted by Admiral Ackbar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How dare he maintain that he's not that into Star Wars, you son of a bitch. | ||
| So we start on the third here, and I kind of maybe glanced this off the first time I heard Alex discussing it, or bringing up this little factoid, but I decided this time it would be best to look into it and discuss what was going on. | ||
| Oh my gosh, now 2,777 people died yesterday, they're saying, from COVID. | ||
| Or COVID-related things. | ||
| Which means you give them a test that the German courts have now ruled are 96% false positive. | ||
| So we heard him say that on a previous episode, but I think it was in the context of something. | ||
| There were bigger things going on. | ||
| Yeah, it was part of a list of bullshit. | ||
| But now the German courts must be brought into this. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's see what happens. | ||
| So this story is a little bit more complicated than what Alex is saying. | ||
| That's a shock. | ||
| What's at the core of it is that what a German court determined was that four German citizens who were in Portugal on holiday were held illegally when they were quarantined after one tested positive for COVID-19. | ||
| I don't think Portugal cares. | ||
| See, now I think Portugal cares. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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One of these vacationers tested positive and was in close contact with the other three, so the Portuguese authorities quarantined them in a hotel. | |
| They contested this decision, and ultimately, judges found that their quarantine was unlawful. | ||
| Part of the evidence that was used at their trial was related to a study that claimed that PCR tests were up to 90%. | ||
| 97% unreliable and caused that ratio of false positives. | ||
| However, as is always the case, that is not what the study said. | ||
| This was a piece in the Clinical Infectious Diseases Journal, which looked at what is known as the cycle threshold of testing and how that could be a way to better understand viral load and the possibility. | ||
| of infectiousness. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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According to this article, the consensus had previously been to understand someone is not contagious after 10 days and a viral load that could not be identified with a cycle threshold value of 30 or higher. | |
| Sure. | ||
| From 13,161 positive samples, 1941 were chosen and tested using different cycle thresholds to see how the early estimates held up in those early assessments. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Quality control. | ||
| They found that with a cycle threshold of 25, 70% of samples were still positive. | ||
| At cycle threshold 30, that number dropped to 20. And that when the cycle threshold was 35, the number of positive results were less than 3%. | ||
| In the publication, they literally say that this finding, using more data than their original set, does not significantly change the conclusions that had been reached previously. | ||
| The finding essentially boiled down to a feeling that after 10 days, if your PCR test is at a negative with an under 30 cycle threshold, then you are almost certainly not going to be contagious. | ||
| This is not proof that the PCR tests are always false positives, nor did a German court decide that the test is a scam. | ||
| Alex has no idea what this story is about, nor does he even know about the study that underpins the story. | ||
| Even with this information, using the cycle threshold value to infer whether or not a person is possibly infectious is not a precise way to interpret these figures, and some people definitely warn against it. | ||
| There are a number of other variables to consider, but the talking point that's been taken from this publication and disseminated on right-wing media is that the PCR test has been proven in German courts to be a false positive rate of 97%, which is complete bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The court in Portugal ruled that the vacationers had been illegally detained based on their inability to find any indication of what the cycle threshold that was used in their positive test result was. | |
| And thus, in court, they could not defend their positive diagnosis. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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This was a case that was mishandled by Portuguese authorities, not an indictment of tests for COVID-19. | |
| I also just, whenever he said that last time, I was just like, this is a global pandemic that affects a lot of countries. | ||
| I don't care if... | ||
| Germany is like... | ||
| Germany's court system can't be like... | ||
| They're all full of shit and I'll buy it. | ||
| I just don't care. | ||
| There are other countries. | ||
| They're all like, I buy it. | ||
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So I'm fine. | |
| I found another story that I thought was what Alex was talking about. | ||
| And it turns out there was a lab in Germany that processed, I think in one month they processed 60 tests and 58 were false positives. | ||
| And the reason was because there was a supply shortage and their normal reagent was unavailable to them. | ||
| So they used an incompatible reagent. | ||
| And the mistake was found. | ||
| And like, oh, okay. | ||
| I'll redo all this. | ||
| But like, yeah, that was what I kind of thought would make sense. | ||
| But then I looked into this story and was like, oh, this is clearly what's going on. | ||
| He just thinks it's German courts, but it's Portuguese courts. | ||
| It's German vacationers in Portugal. | ||
| And it's a misrepresentation of what the court decided and the study that was being introduced. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why would I care what a court decides about coronavirus anyways? | ||
| I don't trust most courts to be in any way impartial or know what they're talking about. | ||
| I guess if a court decided that, I'd like to see it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'd like to read it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I would be interested. | ||
| Alex has some heroes on the third, and they're the people who are staying open despite COVID. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Danny Presetti. | ||
| He's the owner of the popular restaurant and bar. | ||
| There on Staten Island, New York, New York told, hey, you're not essential, buddy. | ||
| You can have a little patio out here and you can have maybe 5% of your patrons for the whole winter and maybe next year. | ||
| You're going to go bankrupt. | ||
| And he said, no, we're essential. | ||
| And the police said, we're going to arrest you. | ||
| So he said, you know what, I'm an autonomous zone like the commies. | ||
| What they said in their undercover police. | ||
| So you're against it. | ||
| As if they were doing something secret and arrested him. | ||
| We'll go ahead and roll the footage of that again. | ||
| This is the Alex Jones Show. | ||
| We're into hour number one here. | ||
| So Alex has this guy's name wrong. | ||
| It's not Danny Persetti. | ||
| It's Danny Presti. | ||
| And things took a little bit of a turn between when he recorded this episode and when we were recording ours. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| On the night of December 5th, Danny Presti was arrested, but it wasn't for keeping his bar open as an autonomous zone or some shit. | ||
| According to NBC4 New York, quote, the New York City Sheriff's Office said deputies attempted to take Danny Presti, 34, into custody just after midnight Sunday after observing patrons entering Mac's public house via an empty commercial space next door. | ||
| Upon identifying themselves, the sheriff's office said Presti allegedly fled on foot, got into his car, drove into one of the deputies, and then continued driving with the injured deputy clinging to the hood. | ||
| I think that Alex would like to paint this as a situation where this guy is just like, you know, I gotta put food on the table, and I'm gonna keep this going, and nah, he's... | ||
| Hitting cops with cars. | ||
| Yeah, that'll do it. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| That's a little bit different from the heroic story of fighting back against a government that's out of control for closing your restaurant in the midst of a pandemic trying not to kill people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a little bit different. | ||
| It's going to be an interesting story to try and weave. | ||
| But Alex is really into these small business owners, man. | ||
| He's really, really worried about them. | ||
| Now let's show you a town in Michigan. | ||
| Where the business owner comes up and takes over the local live feed and says, listen, you're forcing me to fight back. | ||
| You're bankrupting me. | ||
| I tried to get the damn stimulus last time and I was not eligible. | ||
| Listen, we went and tried just to see. | ||
| We tried to log on thousands of times over a couple months. | ||
| Thousands of times. | ||
| I'm talking 20 times a day. | ||
| I had like five employees trying because we were losing a ton of money and things were falling apart. | ||
| And I wanted to just see if we could get it. | ||
| Then I hired a law firm to check and they said, no, you can't get it. | ||
| So what would you like? | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| This is a disgrace for a couple reasons. | ||
| The first and most obvious is that the stimulus that was given out and the management of it was entirely up to his hero, Donald Trump, and his government. | ||
| If Trump and the GOP-controlled Senate had been willing to provide more support for the people who were struggling, then the stimulus probably would have been much larger. | ||
| If Trump's government was at all concerned with governing and competent leadership, then the website that Alex had trouble using probably might have been better. | ||
| The people that Alex supports and deifies are the exact people who could have averted the problem that he's complaining about, but Alex refuses to acknowledge that. | ||
| It's just so fucking Republican to destroy the competition. | ||
| Comment! | ||
| in charge and a robust stimulus package had been passed that allowed these small business owners to comfortably survive this health crisis. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Alex would be super against that. | ||
| He hates welfare, and he hates the idea of a social safety net. | ||
| If these business owners were being paid to close temporarily to deal with the virus, it would be proof that the nanny state was trying to make all business owners dependent on them to survive. | ||
| In a situation like the one we're in, there is nothing that leaders can do that will appease the shithead fake populists like Alex. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| If they pass massive spending bills to take care of the public, it's proof of a communist conspiracy trying to pacify the population in order to make up serfs. | ||
| If they don't pass massive spending bills to take care of people, it's proof that they only care about Jeff Bezos, which is proof that it's a grand conspiracy to make you dependent on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This is the part of Alex's politics that's a trap. | ||
| The joke is on you if you take him seriously, because he doesn't give a shit about any of this. | ||
| It's emotionally satisfying to yell about the small business owners who were hurt by the shutdown, but his principles don't allow any other response to a crisis like this. | ||
| The only thing he can actually advocate is acting like there is no virus, which sounds better when you just present it as yelling about these poor business owners. | ||
| I agree, though, that business owners have been fucked over in this case. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But Bezos haven't. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think that there's, like, problems with some of the descriptive things that Alex is talking about. | ||
| I'll just never respect him to speak on the subject because he's not a sincere, genuine actor in this. | ||
| No, it's the way it always works. | ||
| Whenever things are going well... | ||
| Uh, relatively speaking. | ||
| Republicans are like, see, this is, they could be going better if we just didn't get, got away with all this regulation and shit. | ||
| And then people are like, yeah, that's a great idea! | ||
| And they elect Republicans and Republicans destroy everything. | ||
| And then by the time we're here, four years later, whenever we're not going to have one, they switch their tune and they're like, why hasn't government done anything for us? | ||
| And it's like, I, I, it's, he, Alex is the only person that forces me to constantly say, Like, how dare you? | ||
| There's so much drama written in how dare you, and it's kind of overused and boring, but Alex doing that makes me just go, how? | ||
| How dare you, sir? | ||
| Yeah, I think he's the only person because he's the only person we look at this much. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I bet if we covered Rush... | ||
| No, no, I see 300 other people a day. | ||
| But I mean, if we did a show about Rush Limbaugh, I guarantee you'd be saying, how dare you, Mr. Limbaugh. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| Or Hannity, or any of them. | ||
| Of course, they're full of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So on this day, Alex is pretty excited because he has that Rogan interview already recorded. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And, you know, I think it's been my contention and... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What's stronger than a contention? | ||
| Certainty? | ||
| Yeah, I would say certainty works. | ||
| I'm positive. | ||
| Conclusion? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is using Joe Rogan to try and appeal to a wider audience than he has access to. | ||
| And it's kind of nice that Alex just outright says so. | ||
| We're going to air some of the highlights and excerpts coming up at the bottom of the next hour. | ||
| And then at about one o 'clock or so, we're going to post the... | ||
| Full four-plus-hour interview. | ||
| And the reason this is important is everything Joe does gets millions of views. | ||
| And everything he does with me gets 20, 30, 40 million views. | ||
| And a lot of other people he interviews are, or he talks to are big as well. | ||
| But Joe doesn't do a lot of interviews. | ||
| And so this is a great way to reach out to new people that, oh, I don't want to look at Alex Jones, but they'll look at something Joe Rogan's doing. | ||
| And so this is a powerful interview. | ||
| This is an important thing to understand, and this is why Joe's kind of being used here, is that Alex has a pretty keen awareness that people look at this if it's Joe, but they won't look at it if it's me, because I'm a lunatic. | ||
| Now, the issue for me comes down to, do you remember? | ||
| I'm pretending Joe's listening now. | ||
| Do you remember when Alex was screaming about your kids on air? | ||
| Do you remember when he was calling you a sneaky snake and saying he was going to destroy you? | ||
| Do you remember when he said that you were a globalist? | ||
| Do you remember all that stuff? | ||
| That was when you weren't making yourself available to be used. | ||
| So wait, are you saying... | ||
| That was in response to when you got on your show and said that you can't have Alex on because of the Sandy Hook stuff. | ||
| Oh no, he's my friend! | ||
| No, you said he was not somebody who your platform was available to. | ||
| He talked about your fucking kids on his show. | ||
| Nah, you don't know him like I do. | ||
| Said he was going to chop you up like a sneaky snake. | ||
| That's just how he talks! | ||
| And then now, oh, what do you know? | ||
| Your platform's available to him. | ||
| You're gonna come... | ||
| You live in Austin, you're gonna come on... | ||
| I have a history of unhealthy relationships. | ||
| Is that what you wanted to hear? | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| How fucking transparently obvious could this be? | ||
| I was thinking it's... | ||
| Look. | ||
| We knew it. | ||
| He knew it. | ||
| Maybe Joe is the only person who doesn't know it, but he probably knows it too. | ||
| If he doesn't, he has the most awesome mentality, and I'm jealous of him and the naivete. | ||
| He lives a better life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But at the same time, whenever he said it, I was like, well, that's gauche. | ||
| That's a little... | ||
| Look, that's a little gauche. | ||
| Hey, look, here's the deal. | ||
| I'm trying to use this dude to Trojan horse my extremist views onto audiences that know better than to listen to me. | ||
| Look, we all know... | ||
| I know that, but it's tacky to say it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I had a nightmare the other night. | ||
| I know that it's also not great to talk about dreams, and it was that our show disappeared because of, like, copyright issues. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You know, I know this is fair use, using Alex's stuff, but it's still something that worries me, is like, hey, is there a possibility that, you know, we could have all of our episodes taken down? | ||
| Don't give him ideas! | ||
| Well, it's too late, because on his show, he gave us permission to do this show. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| By the way, Everything I do is free to air. | ||
| Everything I do is copyright free. | ||
| Meaning that you can take it, you can share it, you can edit it, you can cut it, you can play it on your show. | ||
| We get so many emails and so many letters saying, can I paint InfoWars on my barn? | ||
| Or can I make copies of your DVD and get them out? | ||
| You better. | ||
| You better. | ||
| So apparently, not only do we have his blessing, we have his insistence that we do this show. | ||
| Dear Alex Jones at Infowars, my barn is looking a little worn down. | ||
| Do you think I could paint Infowars upon the side of it, sir? | ||
| Alex, I wanted to paint Infowars on my barn, but I was worried about getting sued. | ||
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Yeah, hey, Rob, Rob Dew, I got word that someone in Nebraska... | |
| He's got some paint cans. | ||
| Rob, Rob, you know how we will do... | ||
| Call Robert Barnes. | ||
| Rob, we will do anything and everything for free publicity, but this one time... | ||
| Look, I fucking hate Barnes. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| I hate Robert Barnes, and I hate Barnes. | ||
| The end. | ||
| Maybe that's what the person was asking for permission for. | ||
| Can you paint it on the side? | ||
| Now... | ||
| That does require permission. | ||
| That probably does. | ||
| And Alex's permission, too. | ||
| Not Barnes. | ||
| This was back when Barnes was an employee. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, like I said, he's, you know, Rogan is making himself available and helping Alex get attention, and so that means that he is brave. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is a big, brave boy. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| And it turns out that Tucker Carlson, while his rhetoric is good, he's not somebody that is going to have Alex on his show. | ||
| What a whiny loser. | ||
| So he's not as good as Rogan. | ||
| So he can sit back and say, oh, well, Joe Rogan should do more. | ||
| No one else in his position is. | ||
| And look, I like Tucker Carlson. | ||
| I admire him. | ||
| He's a friend. | ||
| We talk. | ||
| I'll leave it at that. | ||
| But I'm banned from going on this show. | ||
| And he used to plug InfoWars on there. | ||
| And, you know, obviously you don't see that anymore because they, you know, it's... | ||
| Nobody's been willing to go to bat for me in a big position of power. | ||
| Other than Trump behind the scenes. | ||
| And, you know, Biden gets in. | ||
| I got told last week. | ||
| Hell, I got told two days ago. | ||
| You fucked. | ||
| But I'm enemy number two. | ||
| They said, Jones, I got this call. | ||
| Even in your imagination, you're number two. | ||
| I'm one of the folks that works for the Clintons who's a Republican. | ||
| He said, Jones, you had enough yet? | ||
| You ready to come in out of the cold? | ||
| And I said, just as soon as you stop running slave camps in China, just as soon as you guys stop being involved in pedophilia. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| That thoroughly fictitious person that I didn't invent right now? | ||
| Here's some tough talk for you, voice in my head. | ||
| Yeah, Alex is public enemy number two once Biden gets in there. | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| I would be interested to find out if Biden actually even knows who Alex Jones is. | ||
| I would imagine there's a possibility, but there's also a possibility that he doesn't. | ||
| I think the people around Biden would know Jones. | ||
| I don't think Biden has ever actually been... | ||
| I don't think they even need to broach the subject. | ||
| He might have gone like, hey, who's this Alex Jones character? | ||
| And they're like, listen. | ||
| You don't need to worry about it. | ||
| Here's what I would say. | ||
| He is as aware of Alex Jones as I am of the Property Brothers. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That probably sounds right. | ||
| I know that show exists. | ||
| It does. | ||
| And there are a couple of them. | ||
| I've seen them somewhere. | ||
| I don't know what their show is about. | ||
| Smiling? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Mainly. | ||
| I would imagine that it's kind of like that. | ||
| He's aware of Alex's existence, but probably has no idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's my sense on it. | ||
| I would prefer if Alex Jones did a Property Brothers type thing. | ||
| What if he just fixed houses on TV? | ||
| That'd be great. | ||
| Poorly? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That'd be the best part. | ||
| He does the exact same amount of work. | ||
| I would be into it. | ||
| Yeah, I'd watch that. | ||
| So someone's called him and says that the DOJ under Biden is going to come at you. | ||
| They're going to come after you. | ||
| I'd be fine with that, too. | ||
| But there's a possibility, though, that this is all just a ploy. | ||
| They're trying to get Alex onto the team. | ||
| I don't want to be given immunity by you because you don't have it from God. | ||
| I've got my immunity. | ||
| Andy, thank you very much. | ||
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All right. | |
| Paul? | ||
| Oh, look so inviting. | ||
| Oh, all the money, all the private jets, all the best medicine, all the best sex, all the best drugs. | ||
| Just, Jones, we love you. | ||
| Just come with us. | ||
| Come. | ||
| You don't think I get hate from the enemy. | ||
| You know, it's like, oh, Jones, we know you're going to make the right decision. | ||
| We know you're going to come over to us, Jones. | ||
| Come to us. | ||
| Come here. | ||
| Come to us. | ||
| Come. | ||
| Come to us. | ||
| Meanwhile, all these corporate lawyers and all these sellouts would kill their firstborn to be part of this. | ||
| It's disgusting. | ||
| And I won't be part of it. | ||
| And I'll stay in this fight as long as you keep me in the fight. | ||
| Two things that are back in stock. | ||
| Prostagard's been sold out for quite a while. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| That's amazing. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| You could hear him looking at the clock. | ||
| You could hear him timing it out to break. | ||
| Come, come, come, 15 seconds left. | ||
| Come, come, 20 seconds left. | ||
| How did I get the... | ||
| Press the guards back in stock. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| They try and steal me away from you guys, and the only thing keeping me from them is your money. | ||
| I'm going to stay in this fight as long as you're giving me money, too, but let me tell you, I have offers that others would kill their children for. | ||
| Listen, here's what I'm telling you. | ||
| The moment I don't have your money... | ||
| I'm on their team for money. | ||
| Sounds heroic. | ||
| Now, admittedly, I've gotten none of those offers that I lied about. | ||
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No. | |
| And the DOJ is not going to come after you. | ||
| Doubtful. | ||
| So Alex goes to commercial after talking about Prostagard. | ||
| And, man, he loves that song, Bad to the Bone. | ||
| And I would say that it sucks. | ||
| I would say, and I am sorry. | ||
| What about the part where he goes... | ||
| Do you like that part? | ||
| I just, it's so droning. | ||
| Bad. | ||
| That's what I would say it is. | ||
| It's bad as a song. | ||
| Anyway, Alex is listening to this and he's just loving it. | ||
| He just fucking loves it. | ||
| And then he has this weird fantasy. | ||
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I want to be yours, pretty baby. | |
| Yours and yours alone. | ||
|
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And I'm here to tell you that I'm bad to the bone. | |
| B-b-b-bad. | ||
|
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Bad to the bone. | |
| Some good music out here. | ||
| It's like I'm cruising on the highway at night. | ||
| About 120. | ||
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It's a nice cruising speed. | |
| To the desert. | ||
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We'll be right back. | |
| What just happened? | ||
| I've got a message to President. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| His fantasy apparently is... | ||
| Is that message learn the wrong lessons from things? | ||
| Yeah, I guess that's a metaphor for his career. | ||
| He's like, you're driving irresponsibly, you get knocked off the road by happenstance, and then you go... | ||
| Twice as fast, baby! | ||
| Yeah, just as irresponsible, let's keep on going. | ||
| Yeah, I would say that's a bad fantasy. | ||
| Why not just keep on driving down the desert road? | ||
| 120. | ||
| It's a fantasy. | ||
| That jackrabbit does not have to be there. | ||
| I mean, I guess stories aren't interesting without conflict of some sort. | ||
| You know, you have to have a... | ||
| I guess this is more of a man versus nature kind of thematic story about... | ||
| The story as it is, with context, not interesting. | ||
| Could be man versus self. | ||
| That could be a good starting point. | ||
| Alex is the jackrabbit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, he wants to take some time here on this episode to play clips of his Rogan. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He wants to bring that into the show itself. | ||
| But there's a problem. | ||
| There's a problem. | ||
| It's copyrighted. | ||
| No. | ||
| People haven't edited those clips. | ||
| You know, I've got this big Trump clip that I think is the best out of the 49-minute speech that we're going to air when we come back after that, and then I guess we'll push our other guests back into the Joe Rogan stuff tomorrow, maybe. | ||
| Aww. | ||
| I'm not sure we can air that. | ||
| But, you know, there's so much more to get to here today and so many angles to all of this. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| But I'm being sarcastic. | ||
| This morning I said, can I just have three clips? | ||
| One clip from each person involved in editing this. | ||
| And then I'm just going to air those at 1230. | ||
| And so they've got like 15 clips and I don't have them yet. | ||
| And I'm not mad. | ||
| We just won't do it. | ||
| Because that's the only power I've got at this point, is that every time we do this, just to give up. | ||
| Because I've got a lot of political news and a lot of important stuff to cover, and at least I can post the whole Joe Rogan interview. | ||
| We can get that done. | ||
| So that should be up by next hour for you. | ||
| But again, the news websites are Infowars.com and Newswars.com and so much more. | ||
| Separately, To fund this operation, we need your support. | ||
| Wow, a lot of ad transitions. | ||
| I do appreciate the idea that he's saying, like, okay, when these things happen, the only power I have is to give up. | ||
| Which kind of means, like, I run this whole thing, and I'm going on strike against my subordinate employees. | ||
| How dare my subordinates do... | ||
| What? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| What's the problem here? | ||
| Oh, wait, they gave me more options of clips than I had requested. | ||
| Fucking overachievers. | ||
| Bunch of dicks. | ||
| There's 15 clips here instead of the three that I had requested. | ||
| I can't possibly be bothered to look through and choose the ones I want to use. | ||
| No, I must on air throw a tantrum and threaten to go on strike. | ||
| This is the type of stuff where you go, you know what? | ||
| A lot of people think this guy is a leader. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The only thing I have left to me is to give up in the face of adversity. | ||
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When there is a challenge, I say no! | |
| And the adversity is like something you could sort out during a commercial break easily. | ||
| Just... | ||
| Hey, guys, could you pick a couple of those clips for me and then just send them over real quick? | ||
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Cool. | |
| Thank you very much. | ||
| If the devil is up against this guy, if this guy is the dude who's going to stand up to the devil, I'd be like... | ||
| I guess I could just inconvenience him a little. | ||
| Maybe this is... | ||
| The devil doesn't even have to destroy Alex or any kind of elaborate plan. | ||
| He could just make his life a little annoying. | ||
| And Alex would be like, fuck it, I don't care. | ||
| Maybe this is God, like, flexing on Satan. | ||
| Like, see, this is how much better than you I am. | ||
| I'm going to pick Alex Jones as your mortal enemy this time. | ||
| It's like Braun Strowman winning the tag team championship with a 12-year-old child. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Flexing. | ||
| Here's who we've got going up against Ivan Draper. | ||
| Oh, quite a match. | ||
| Yeah, that'll do it. | ||
| So Alex does finally get some clips of Rogan. | ||
| And like, I'm probably going to have to do this as an episode. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| But like, they sound so fucked up. | ||
| Just in this one clip that they play. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And I understand that you'd be reluctant to ever accept or multiply awful ideas. | ||
| The best way to combat that, and it's been shown throughout history, is better ideas. | ||
| The simplest way to combat that is to shut it down. | ||
| It's like, if you have a kid, and you say, you gotta go to bed, and your kid goes, why do I have to go to bed? | ||
| And you go, shut the f*** up! | ||
| It's sort of the same thing. | ||
| Dad? | ||
| Is that you? | ||
| It's a crazy interview. | ||
| Four plus hours long. | ||
| A lot of leaves. | ||
| A lot of surprises. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| A lot of surprises. | ||
| I guess Joe's implying in that clip that you should debate your child about bedtimes. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, also, in that context, you're framing yourself as the child. | ||
| And the parent does make the rules. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| So the bedtime is the bedtime. | ||
| That would make sense. | ||
| And so if the bedtime is sort of analogous to being kicked off social media, you're gonna abide by that bedtime. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Whether you fall asleep or not, it's on you. | ||
| But you're gonna be in that bed. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Because they're your fucking parents. | ||
| In many ways, one thing that you are learning how to be is a member of society. | ||
| Insofar as your actions affect others. | ||
| And we are... | ||
| And in the same way, the people who are doing this bullshit... | ||
| Our children who need to be a part of society, which means there are rules. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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There you go. | |
| The metaphor may work not in the way he wants, but it might work a lot better than he realizes. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Anyway, I think one of the reasons that Joe sounds so fucked up in that clip is I think they did something to the audio. | ||
| His voice doesn't sound right. | ||
| It's either sped up slightly or slow. | ||
| I don't know what it is, but it doesn't have the same tone as Joe's voice normally does. | ||
| So I don't know what it is. | ||
| I think somebody messed that up. | ||
| No, he probably just has better sound people on his own show. | ||
| I don't think so, because I listened to, like I said, the first half hour or 20 minutes of it, and it doesn't sound like that. | ||
| And it doesn't sound like that. | ||
| No, there was something wrong with the replay of it. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| Well, the only option we have here, Dan, is to give up. | ||
| Got to. | ||
| If this is the level of kind of amazing interview they had where they're like, don't yell at your kid to go to bed, I can't wait. | ||
| I can't wait for four hours of that. | ||
| See, what you gotta do is be like, hey, kid, let me tell you about bed, alright? | ||
| What you gotta do with bed is you get into the bedroom, you lay in bed, you fall asleep. | ||
| If you don't do that, you're going to hell! | ||
| If Joe's point is that, like, a... | ||
| Parent should explain to a child who's curious about why there's a bedtime, why it's healthy, and they need to go to bed. | ||
| Like, if that's the case, and he wants to make that equivalent to, like, social media platforms should be a little bit more transparent, I'll go with you. | ||
| But I also don't think that, like, I don't think the decisions that have been made are, like, kicking Alex off, stuff like that. | ||
| I don't think that would be... | ||
| Overturned by transparency. | ||
| Also, I would like to know Alex's take on whether or not he explains bedtime very clearly. | ||
| It's curious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we jump to the fourth now, and here's how we open this egg up. | ||
| We are 48 days out from the inauguration of Donald John Trump. | ||
| If we fight back, the evidence is now red-handed in all five states with the red-handed video of I love the illegal sequential ballots. | ||
| Devastating. | ||
| If Trump can get his hands on those, it's game over. | ||
| Game over. | ||
| Game over. | ||
| If he can get his hands on them. | ||
| But unfortunately, you know, he doesn't have the power of an entire government behind him. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
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Can't do it. | |
| Well, I mean, this is all just like, I get really... | ||
| Bored of a lot of this. | ||
| Because it's just Alex repeating and amplifying like Rudy Giuliani nonsense. | ||
| I just kind of like... | ||
| It's exhausting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's exhausting. | ||
| Go home and bleed your hair dye there. | ||
| Alex has big news, though. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Well, I have big news. | ||
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What's that? | |
| And that is Alex has been reading. | ||
| I would like proof. | ||
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Allegedly. | |
| Let me give you the big news. | ||
| Let me give you the big news here. | ||
| I spit. | ||
| Hours this morning and hours last night at Infowars.com and at GatewayPundit.com and at NationalFile.com and very little time on Breitbart because they are really starting to drop the ball and turn against Trump. | ||
| Very disgusting, but I guess that Mercer money must be good. | ||
| Very sad. | ||
| Very sad. | ||
| And I like Breitbart. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Think about that a little more, why don't you? | ||
| Think about that a little bit more, what you're saying, Alex. | ||
| What does it imply? | ||
| What does it imply about Breitbart? | ||
| What does it imply about... | ||
| I think what it implies about Breitbart is that it only produces content based upon what billionaires would like. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Also, what does that imply about things like Parler, your social media network that you really seem to like that has a bunch of Mercer money going to it? | ||
| It seems like they would only allow things that the Mercers would want. | ||
| I just think it's best not to use that as an attack on Breitbart because they're out of pocket or whatever. | ||
| It's going to be too complicated for you to thread that needle out. | ||
| No, don't do it. | ||
| I would leave it alone. | ||
| That's like following the money in an investigation. | ||
| If you follow the money, you're going to get corrupt politicians. | ||
| It's going to happen because they are. | ||
| So don't follow the money. | ||
| Well, you know what happens with corrupt politicians? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| They put ballots in black crates. | ||
| And then they count those ballots. | ||
| Corruptly. | ||
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Damn them. | |
| One of these stories should turn the whole election over because it's so organized. | ||
| But there's hundreds with video in dozens of cases of the fraud. | ||
| People looking over their shoulder, kicking everybody out, saying a water pipe broke. | ||
| That's bad enough. | ||
| That should overturn it. | ||
| And then they pull out all the black crates from under the table and look like Sylvester when he's caught with Tweety Bird in his mouth. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| So this was a video that Rudy Giuliani had entered into his evidence as proof of illegal votes being counted in the Georgia State Farm Arena. | ||
| It was alleged that these were secret illegal ballots that were produced from black boxes when no one was looking. | ||
| The surveillance video was reviewed by election officials who said... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If the... | ||
| If the material the box is made of can't be harmed, why not make the ballots out of? | ||
| Gabriel Sterling, the voting systems manager in Georgia, said, quote, the 90-second video of election workers at State Farm Arena purporting to show fraud was watched in its entirety. | ||
| Hours of footage, not just the 90 seconds. | ||
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Sure. | |
| By Georgia Secretary of State Investigators. | ||
| Shows normal ballot processing. | ||
| Oh, damn them! | ||
| Once again, we have Trump's goons trying to manufacture a voter fraud narrative out of the appearance of something that they think looks suspicious. | ||
| The fact that they keep doing this and each time it turns out to be nothing should make his followers wary the next time Rudy or Alex find some supposed irregularity. | ||
| But some people fall for multiple doomsday predictions. | ||
| There's no telling. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The end of the earth is on December 21st, 2012! | ||
| Okay, it's December 22nd. | ||
| I got it wrong. | ||
| It's on December 21st. | ||
| We're gonna do the math again. | ||
| 20, 2100. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, guys, come on, follow me for the next hundred years or so. | ||
| We'll be alright. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just, it's exhausting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that these are thin and, uh... | ||
| I just, I don't know. | ||
| I lose my patience with covering the same topic over and over again. | ||
| So, I was very excited to hear this. | ||
| I don't know if it's true that La Cosa Nostra, the mafia, had J. Edgar Hoover dressed up like a woman. | ||
| I don't know if he was gay. | ||
| I really don't care. | ||
| The point is, is that he did say that the mafia did not exist. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| He gave testimony in the 40s and early 50s that the mafia did not exist. | ||
| The reason that J. Edgar Hoover was in denial about the existence of the mafia was that at the time, the FBI was basically entirely focused on investigating alleged communists and surveilling left-wing activists. | ||
| He didn't see going after mafia actors as a good use of resources, since organized crime could be difficult to prosecute, and they were rich, so they could bribe people. | ||
| They gave people a lot of money, which was... | ||
| That was one of their... | ||
| Following the money! | ||
| No, that was a good idea. | ||
| You give people money if you want them to investigate leftists. | ||
| If Alex had been around in 1955, he would have been enthusiastically supporting the FBI, leaving the mafia alone, saying they're just good Americana businessmen. | ||
| What do you hate, Italians now? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| The FBI had bigger issues, like how literally everyone I don't like is a communist. | ||
| That's what you gotta be spending your time on. | ||
| He's good God-fearing Catholics over here, just trying to make a living in the new world, and you're gonna ignore them and you're gonna go after the commies. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| That's more or less. | ||
| That's the way you do it. | ||
| So Alex is like, you know, he's sitting here talking about these globalists. | ||
| They're a menace. | ||
| They want to depopulate everybody. | ||
| They want to kill off the entire world. | ||
| So does he, though. | ||
| But the globalists, they seem to have like a gun to their head. | ||
| But it's an alien gun. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| But Alex is talking about this and he realizes this sounds silly. | ||
| Is that more dangerous than a... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Far more dangerous. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But it's at your head. | ||
| Yeah, but it's... | ||
| I mean, look. | ||
| You could survive a gunshot to your head if it went just the... | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Not an alien gun. | ||
| Alien will blow you up. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| So anyway, he realizes it sounds a little silly in the middle. | ||
| This is like a kamikaze action. | ||
| It's like somebody's got a gun to these people's heads. | ||
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You will depopulate your planet or we will destroy it all. | |
| Hey, Marvin. | ||
| I mean, if I was a military tactician, I'd say... | ||
| This doesn't make sense. | ||
| It's like aliens have a gun to their heads to do this. | ||
| This is not going to be popular. | ||
| This is illegal. | ||
| It doesn't help people. | ||
| And I'm not even saying it's aliens. | ||
| I'm saying the Bible says it's an alien. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Colonel. | ||
| Colonel. | ||
| I just, we can't figure out why. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that aliens have a gun to their head. | ||
| It's gotta be an alien gun. | ||
| It's gotta be alien guns. | ||
| I just go, I grow so tired of the, like, trying to save face by being like, I'm not saying aliens, but the Bible says it's an alien. | ||
| Yeah, the Bible says it. | ||
| You're saying it's an alien. | ||
| Cut it out. | ||
| You believe everything the Bible says, so if the Bible says it's an alien, you're saying it's an alien. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the next question I would like to ask him. | ||
| If you were to present this in my presence, I would say, so you're saying it's an alien. | ||
| And he would say, no, I'm not saying, I'm just saying the Bible says it's an alien. | ||
| So you don't believe the Bible. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That would be the next question. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And he'd be like, wow. | ||
| So it's an alien. | ||
| Wow, the Bible says it's an alien. | ||
| So you don't believe the Bible. | ||
| Look, I'm not saying it's an alien, I'm just saying. | ||
| I'm starting to feel like we could do this for a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, Alex is an alien. | ||
| They have an alien gun to their head, but they're also the people who James Bond villains are based on. | ||
| I don't know if you know that. | ||
| The aliens? | ||
| They all look like Dr. Evil. | ||
| Why does Dr. Evil look like that? | ||
| Because Hollywood knows these people look like. | ||
| Or... | ||
| Where's his mini-me? | ||
| Well, that one is actually an interesting story. | ||
| Have you ever seen The Island of Dr. Moreau? | ||
| You're going to take it. | ||
| You're going to drink sewage and eat weeds. | ||
| You said that last week. | ||
| The new diet will be sewage, bugs, and weeds. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| We have the clip. | ||
| See, Marlon Brando. | ||
| He says in German. | ||
| They've got some new diets and drink sewage and weeds. | ||
| The director actually went crazy. | ||
| It's a really interesting movie. | ||
| But don't worry, your tampons will be free. | ||
| He actually said that, too. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| So... | ||
| That's Goldfinger. | ||
| He's more of a corrupt industrialist. | ||
| Pull up Adam Spector. | ||
| From Russia with love. | ||
| I don't think they'll even show his face, but just pull up James Bond. | ||
| Pull up Dr. Evil. | ||
| I gotta digress here. | ||
| If you don't fund our operation, if you don't do Christmas shopping with us, we're not funded by Klaus Schwab. | ||
| Certainly, if you want more content like this, please give us money. | ||
| All right, we have breaking news. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| That guy looks a little bit like Blofeld. | ||
| Can we pull up some Blofeld? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I know I'm Wolf Blitzer. | ||
| Can we pull up Blofeld? | ||
| Yeah, sure, it's breaking news. | ||
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Pull up Blofeld! | |
| My enemies look like James Bond villains. | ||
| Not that one. | ||
| The other one, the other one. | ||
| Let's get a picture of it. | ||
| What about Mini-Me? | ||
| No. | ||
| You will eat sewage. | ||
| They look like Dr. Evil. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Just pull it. | ||
| Dr. Evil. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| I'm doing this great impression of sewage man. | ||
| Look, we need your money. | ||
| So that was bad. | ||
| I was like, oh, that's just a tragic ad pivot. | ||
| But then it gets even worse, because Alex is talking about this prostaguard that's back in stock. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I think he might be fucking around and getting himself sued again. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| And the salt palmetto's great for women, too. | ||
| It's just been found, and the FDA has had to admit that, okay. | ||
| Medical doctors should prescribe saw palmetto as a regular daily regimen for your prostate because it literally just basically 99% chance it stops the cancer. | ||
| Wait, what did you just say? | ||
| What did you just say? | ||
| Hold up. | ||
| I'm not advertising it as essential. | ||
| Sir, sir. | ||
| Vitamin and minerals for you. | ||
| Sir, excuse me. | ||
| So what's great about that is that part at the end where he's like, I'm not advertising it as that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I am mentioning that in the middle of a sales pitch. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| 99% chance you won't get prostate cancer if you take Salt Palmetto. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Is it a legal defense whenever they're like, okay, well you said this, and he's like, nah, nah, nah, I put JK at the end. | ||
| See? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think that's illegal. | ||
| Anyway, Alex starts talking about Biden, right? | ||
| He doesn't have to worry about Biden. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| Because what you really have to worry about is Kamala Harris. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because she's actually going to be the president. | ||
| I thought it was because she's a woman and they're far more threatened by women. | ||
| Especially a woman of color than they are of white men. | ||
| I think that if you really got granular with it and you got Alex into a psychiatrist's office, psychologist's office, maybe this is something that you could tease out eventually. | ||
| But no, on the surface it's because Biden is just going to let Kamala be president, basically. | ||
| And he says so much in a clip that Alex plays. | ||
| Since I mentioned it, because it's too insane to just say it and not play the clip, where he talks about stepping down if he doesn't do what Kamala says. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| All kidding aside... | ||
| The first lady-to-be told me she holds them for you. | ||
| Yes, she does. | ||
| But not with... | ||
| She and Kamala become friends. | ||
| But all kidding aside, it's a matter of the thing. | ||
| We are simpatico on our philosophy of government and simpatico on how we want to attach, approach these issues that we're facing. | ||
| So I don't have... | ||
| And when we disagree, it'll be just like... | ||
| So far, it's been just like Barack and I did. | ||
| It's in private. | ||
| She'll say, I think we should do A, B, C, or D. And I'll say, I like A, I don't like B and C. And let's go, okay. | ||
| And like I told Barack, if I reach something where there's a fundamental disagreement we have based on a moral principle, I'll develop some disease and say I have to resign. | ||
| We don't have that. | ||
| And we discussed at length our views on foreign policy, on domestic policy, on intelligence. | ||
| Look at these two disingenuous, slimy frogs that know they've stolen this. | ||
| I don't think that that clip says what Alex thinks it does. | ||
| I think he's saying that when he was Obama's vice president, they had sort of private disagreements over When I | ||
| was vice president! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I didn't have any actual say over what the final decision was, I would give my input. | ||
| And if I found the final decision unacceptable, I would not throw a tantrum. | ||
| I would be like, I can't do this. | ||
| I broke my foot. | ||
| I'm no longer vice president. | ||
| That's what he's saying. | ||
| I find that to be an incredibly mature position. | ||
| I would assume that what is being discussed there, If you want to apply it to the present, it would be Harris will step down if there is a fundamental disagreement between them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's pretty much what he's saying. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because he wasn't president before. | ||
| No. | ||
| So his story is based on when he was president. | ||
| What a dick. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Speaking of dicks, somebody who's a real pile of shit. | ||
| I can't stand. | ||
| His voice is so annoying. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Tom Pappert, the National File, is back. | ||
| And he's pitching this conspiracy where this woman and her daughter in Georgia were like... | ||
| You know, they switched ballots and stuff. | ||
| Like, he's gonna fuck around and get... | ||
| What, like in a Freaky Friday situation? | ||
| It was like a magical evening and they touched it in front of a fountain? | ||
| I don't care about what's going on. | ||
| They have not presented evidence that rises to any level of suspicion. | ||
| There's that. | ||
| It is just like... | ||
| I'm only going to play this clip because these dudes are trying to get people killed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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You see the four or five people in the video and everybody's wondering, well, who the heck are these people? | |
| Well, now we know thanks to the very good reporting of the Gateway Pundit. | ||
| It's the mother, a woman named Ruby Freeman and her daughter. | ||
| Her daughter, she says in a Facebook video, is her supervisor while she works on the election. | ||
| She talks about people complaining because her supervisor is giving out instructions that don't make sense and seem to be against the law. | ||
| Well, that's just how it is. | ||
| That's my supervisor. | ||
| Well, Alex, her daughter happens to have long, blonde dreadlocks that in a grainy security camera look a lot like braids. | ||
| Her daughter is the woman who at 8.22 in the morning on Election Day brought in these suitcases full of ballots. | ||
| And then, once everybody was gone because of the leaky toilets on that night, she is the one who started removing the suitcases from underneath the table and counting them and ordering the other people to count them. | ||
| This is an elaborate conspiracy that he is directly accusing people of. | ||
| By name. | ||
| Yeah, and by name, I think that if these two people, this mother and daughter, feel so inclined, I think they should probably sue Tom Papert. | ||
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For sure. | |
| This is outrageous. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because of the consequences, I mean, granted, it'd probably take a lot of time, and it'd be unnecessarily difficult and a pain in the ass, but... | ||
| The potential consequences of the actions that people like Alex and Tom are doing right here are so severe that they deserve some sort of a consequence for it. | ||
| And I just can't believe they would do this kind of thing to people. | ||
| I can. | ||
| Yeah, I guess I can. | ||
| I mean, they just have such a bloodlust. | ||
| They just really do. | ||
| Like a literal, like, not only are we saying this person's name hoping they get death threats, like, this is... | ||
| This is what we want. | ||
| And it's just so fucked. | ||
| Yeah, it's tough. | ||
| Oh, there's that stranger over there who I'm going to exploit and maybe get killed. | ||
| The end. | ||
| So anyway, Tom is on. | ||
| He's much rosier than Alex in a lot of ways. | ||
| He's basically convinced that Trump is going to win these cases and then he's going to become president again. | ||
| So really what I should have said up front when you came on, the big news is not just all the smoking gun evidence now, but also the legislatures are starting to move in the right direction. | ||
| That's exactly right. | ||
| And these people, Alex, these are the modern revolutionaries. | ||
| These are the new founding fathers. | ||
| These state legislatures are the new founding fathers of a new country that's going to be under Trump. | ||
| Now, admittedly, many of these state legislatures have also been in agreement with the whole lockdown COVID stuff. | ||
| And so after this one, we're going to go back to tearing down their homes. | ||
| But for now, get into Trump, and then we'll fuck you up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, there is no loyalty. | ||
| There's no consistency. | ||
| And it's never... | ||
| More clearly embodied than when they start talking about Attorney General William Barr. | ||
| As we know, he was someone who was not to be trusted at the beginning. | ||
| Ooh, bad! | ||
| Because he was associated with the Bushes. | ||
| H.W. Bush pardoned all those people. | ||
| And then he started to get real creepy and super accommodating of some of Trump's BS. | ||
| Yeah, because he's a hero. | ||
| Yeah, he became a hero. | ||
| He's one of the good guys. | ||
| And then he got out of packet a little bit, did some stuff that Alex didn't like. | ||
| I always knew he was a monster. | ||
| Yeah, and then he said some really, really fucked up stuff. | ||
| That's because he's a hero! | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so now he's a villain again. | ||
| Oh, he's a monster. | ||
| Barr coming out was a reserve army. | ||
| We know he's been a deep state double agent at least. | ||
| But the fact that he came out against Trump a few days ago showed their total desperation. | ||
| That was their emergency get-out-of-jail-free card and ain't working. | ||
| Well, that's exactly right. | ||
| I mean, you described Barr perfectly there. | ||
| I've never quite thought about it that way, but that's correct. | ||
| I mean, Barr's father hired Jeffrey Epstein to teach at a girls' school when nobody else would. | ||
| That's who Barr's family is, so it makes perfect sense that he's been the sleeper with a significant amount of Trump supporters saying, oh, he plays the bagpipes. | ||
| I love him. | ||
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | |
| I can't stand it. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| It's morning radio-y. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| I almost said bingo because that is something that you literally said to me last week. | ||
| I wonder how long it's going to take for him to remember the Epstein stuff. | ||
| Exactly this long. | ||
| The second I read the headline that Barr said that there wasn't evidence of widespread voter fraud, I texted you, well, looks like Alex is about to remember that Barr's a villain again. | ||
| Just so sad. | ||
| It's predictable as shit. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Tom has broken the case on what's going on with voting. | ||
| Tom has broken the case. | ||
| I think he doesn't know how voting works. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And I have a potential idea of how this may have happened after examining Georgia. | ||
| So I talked to an election expert last night who testified yesterday. | ||
| He said that what they found is they're using homeless shelters in downtown Atlanta and other Democrat strongholds to register thousands of people. | ||
| And mental institutions and nursing homes. | ||
| Which, by the way, seems to be that the experts have not weighed in, meaning the lawyers. | ||
| But that seems to be a clear and obvious violation of the law. | ||
| You cannot have 2,000 people. | ||
| Like, Alex, you can't just walk into a homeless shelter and say, I'm here to register to vote. | ||
| I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. | ||
| Yes, you can. | ||
| I mean, we know that. | ||
| And it's a literal legal thing that you can do. | ||
| Does he think that people experiencing homelessness can't vote? | ||
| They don't get to vote because they don't have homes. | ||
| Does he think that people without permanent addresses can't vote? | ||
| They don't own property. | ||
| Only property holding white men are allowed to vote, Dan. | ||
| Didn't you know that? | ||
| Do you think that people in residential care can't vote? | ||
| How could they? | ||
| Registering people in nursing homes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know those people have a right to vote. | ||
| Since when? | ||
| Always. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Why? | |
| I mean, obviously. | ||
| I think it's a little transparent, but... | ||
| It's a little bit, like... | ||
| It's remarkable, the lack of grasp on any kind of civics there. | ||
| Like, just, oh yeah, obviously, if you're experiencing homelessness, you can't vote. | ||
| Oh yeah, you saw... | ||
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Why would you let those people vote? | |
| That's just how they think. | ||
| That is exactly how they think. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, Tom leaves, and Alex has a big piece of news about social media, big tech. | ||
| Oh, is he getting back on? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| There's another really big story that I haven't gotten to, and I really, really need to get to it. | ||
| And it deals with the next level that is now here of censorship. | ||
| And it deals with YouTube saying they're going to, quote, suppress the videos of white males. | ||
| And not let them trend. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow, indeed. | ||
| That is a huge wow. | ||
| I would imagine if they came out and said that, there would be a large outcry. | ||
| So, since he's saying that they did say that, and I haven't heard about it, I suppose they're suppressing the news of their suppression? | ||
| That might be it, because Alex is dead serious. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They're going to discriminate because someone has white skin and is male? | ||
| So now, just because you're white... | ||
| You're not going to be able to trend. | ||
| Quote Martin Luther King Jr. | ||
| Do it. | ||
| I fucking dare you. | ||
| By the way, I'm not joking. | ||
| It actually says we will suppress white males. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, what is that meant to do? | ||
| It's meant to create total racial division. | ||
| So I found the article about this on Infowars, and it's just about YouTube responding to their creators who have noted that there seems to be a bias in the algorithmic boosting of videos and channels of white creators. | ||
| In response, they ask creators to voluntarily provide information about their identity, which could be used to help better track and see if there is an actual underlying bias in their algorithm that they can find a way to mitigate. | ||
| As it stands now, there's really no way for them to test that, because they have no data on the identities of the creators. | ||
| So this would be a way that they could try to solve that problem that their users have requested they look into. | ||
| Alex is just making up all the details of the story, including that quote about not letting white males trend. | ||
| This is all just him trying to scare his audience, because they're super into white identity fear. | ||
| Hey, YouTube! | ||
| A lot of white dudes. | ||
| Look into it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, I just find this to be sad. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not... | ||
| White men, really going hard now, but they're so desperate with their bullshit, it's real pathetic. | ||
| Well, the problem that I have is that this is so easy to understand what the actual story is on YouTube's side of things, and Alex seems like he should have bigger issues right now. | ||
| There's this whole election fraud thing. | ||
| There's the vaccines and the COVID and all this. | ||
| Do you really need to try and stoke white fear out of it? | ||
| And the answer is yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because that's his bread and butter. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's something that's so important to keeping the audience engaged, keeping them interested. | ||
| It is interesting that you can hammer one story. | ||
| You can hit, oh, voter fraud, voter fraud, voter fraud, voter fraud, voter fraud. | ||
| But with white identity stuff, you've always got to provide more and more new examples each time. | ||
| Otherwise, people are like, well, that's the only reason they're, or that's the only thing they're oppressing white men about. | ||
| You have to make up some new bullshit all the time. | ||
| Yeah, and just misrepresent all sorts of shit. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Alex doesn't want to kill people, although he has said that he's killed people a bunch in the past. | ||
| And that he liked it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And look, I don't want to start going around and killing people, okay? | ||
| But I'm just telling everybody something. | ||
| We have a duty to not put up with this and to get in these people's faces and say, look, you may think there's too many people, and in some areas there probably are, and there's some problems. | ||
| But man, come on. | ||
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Wait, what? | |
| He's talking about the vaccine because he thinks it's a depopulation thing. | ||
| Oh, I gotcha. | ||
| So he doesn't want to go around and kill people, but they're going to have a vaccine. | ||
| So much like Joe Rogan explaining bedtime to his child, you are meant to go to globalists and say, hey, look, I know you think there are too many people. | ||
| But how about don't kill them? | ||
| I guess in this example, Alex is going to kill his kid if he doesn't go to bed. | ||
| It does seem like he's going to walk around killing children who don't do what he says. | ||
| Yeah, he'll become a legend of folklore. | ||
| The guy who kills you if you don't go to bed. | ||
| You'll be used to terrify children for generations. | ||
| Say InfoWars into your mirror three times. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| So Alex, there's some talk from these ex-presidents about how they're going to take that vaccine on TV. | ||
| Which I think is stupid. | ||
| Well, I think it's perfunctory. | ||
| I think it's what you have to do. | ||
| But Alex, of course, has a rebuttal all ready to go. | ||
| Bill Clinton says, I'm going to take a vaccine. | ||
| I'll do it on TV if you believe. | ||
| They're going to take an mRNA vaccine that reprograms every cell in your body? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| This is their move. | ||
| I mean, they're not just going to sterilize you. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| You're dead. | ||
| So, I mean, obviously, it's going to be, if they do get it, it'll be, that's not really the vaccine. | ||
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It's a fake. | |
| It's like a placebo vaccine. | ||
| The moment they said that, I was like, what the fuck are we doing? | ||
| It's not the real... | ||
| Part of me even believes you get some sort of super rich guy vaccine. | ||
| Don't think they're going to trust you guys. | ||
| I just... | ||
| I think that... | ||
| Not doing that is wrong. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Because there is something about the communal experience and seeing these people partake in something very basic. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| There's something unifying to... | ||
| High-profile people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, yeah, I'm getting a shot, too. | ||
| In the same way that, like, if you're a kid, your parent might get a shot. | ||
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Totally. | |
| Like, it doesn't hurt. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're bonding over this. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I think that there's something healthy when our leaders do that. | ||
| And so I'm not opposed to it. | ||
| I'm not opposed to it, for sure. | ||
| But pretending that it has any impact on people who are down these roads is nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, the people who hate the three of you the most are going to be like, well, if they're getting the vaccine that I totally believe is the same vaccine that poor people would get. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| So, Alex went to a protest the night before this, on the evening of the 3rd, against Governor Abbott or something. | ||
| Maybe the mayor. | ||
| I think it's actually the mayor. | ||
| But in this next clip, Alex admits to assaulting someone. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Last night, I decided because other people were down there protesting the day before. | ||
| To go down to protest, Mayor Adler, who's on a private jet, big parties, not wearing masks, but saying our businesses should be shut down. | ||
| The guy was yelling at me and threatening me, going, hey, why don't you come down here? | ||
| So I just went down there and got in his face a little. | ||
| And I probably shouldn't have pulled at his mask, but I got a little emotional because he was taunting us. | ||
| I probably shouldn't have assaulted him, but he was taunting us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I probably shouldn't have threatened his life by removing his mask. | ||
| If you're the person who Alex pulled on his mask, feel free to sue him. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He has admitted on air that he assaulted you. | ||
| He did it. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| He pulled your mask. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| The end. | ||
| He has confessed. | ||
| Open and shut case. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex confesses to something else, and that is that he is very stupid and a big old Islamophobe. | ||
| UK. | ||
| Police patrolling pubs, throwing out customers for eating scotched eggs. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| No drinking allowed, and if we catch you even with an egg that has flavoring of whiskey, we're arresting you, yes, but the Muslims can run sex rings with your kidnapped daughters. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| So, scotch eggs aren't whiskey flavored. | ||
| That escalated from local cuisine very quickly. | ||
| They're not whiskey eggs. | ||
| No, I was gonna say, does he not know what a scotch egg is? | ||
| No, he clearly doesn't. | ||
| It's an egg wrapped in sausage and then covered in breadcrumbs. | ||
| There was a part of me that, like, I immediately went, that's not a scotch egg. | ||
| And then I had to question myself, like, did I not know there was whiskey? | ||
| No, of course there is. | ||
| What's going on here is that in an area of the UK where this restaurant in question was located, the government had put in place rules that bars can't serve alcohol unless it's part of them operating as a restaurant. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You have to go to bed. | ||
| That is to say that bars and pubs without food are not allowed to be open. | ||
| There was a screenshot of a receipt from a London restaurant called the Refinery New Street that showed a bill for 63 Peronis, 12 glasses of Prosecco, and one Scotch egg. | ||
| This was being circulated to imply that this is how they're going to get around the COVID restrictions. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| In reality, the receipt is cropped to make it appear that the group only ordered one scotch egg, but they'd also ordered a ton more food, according to the restaurant. | ||
| This is just a social media meme. | ||
| It's such bullshit. | ||
| None of the stuff that Alex is reporting on here is real. | ||
| He's just misunderstanding a headline of a story that he hasn't read, making up what he thinks scotch eggs are, and using it to throw around completely unnecessary Islamophobia. | ||
| This is what he does as a career. | ||
| He's an idiot who refuses to do any preparation or any work and just spreads hate all over the place. | ||
| Because it's all he can do. | ||
| He's useless. | ||
| Social media is the fucking devil. | ||
| We should just get rid of it. | ||
| We should only live in communities of 150 or less. | ||
| Everybody owns their own business. | ||
| I've remade the entire global economy. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I saw this. | ||
| I saw this. | ||
| Solved it. | ||
| I saw this picture of the receipt, and I thought, like, ah, that's fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very obviously, like, cropped, because it doesn't have a total or anything. | ||
| Oh, well, that fucking dick. | ||
| The receipt is cut off right under this. | ||
| How do you not get, oh. | ||
| Yeah, but it's like, ah, that's fun, because that is a lot of booze. | ||
| That is a lot of booze. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I would say Alex should try a little harder. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in this next clip. | ||
| Especially the internet. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex claims that he's known what's going to happen, all this stuff that's happening around us. | ||
| He's known it all for 10 years. | ||
| Psychic. | ||
| He's been totally consistent on all of this. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I told you lockdown's coming years ago, using a virus as the pretext to bring in martial law, forced inoculation, and digital tracking systems on your phones. | ||
| People are like, how did Jones know it? | ||
| They said they'd do it in Operation Lockstep 10 years ago. | ||
| Didn't exist 10 years ago. | ||
| That's what's so frustrating. | ||
| It doesn't exist now. | ||
| I'm just here like I'm in a play and they go, oh, the next page is there. | ||
| Romeo and Juliet commit suicide. | ||
| Oh, the next page is there. | ||
| And I'm just like, okay, now they're going to do this. | ||
| Now they're going to do that. | ||
| I mean, they're going to kill you. | ||
| Operation Lockstep isn't a real thing. | ||
| Alex didn't know about it. | ||
| Everything is such horse shit. | ||
| Right before the 2016 election, Alex wasn't making his audience scared about a virus that was going to bring in martial law and tracking and all this. | ||
| He said that Obama was going to declare himself the king of a Muslim nation. | ||
| He did. | ||
| There was that. | ||
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There was none of this shit. | |
| Stevie P said he was waiting for the government to collapse so he could make everybody dukes. | ||
| No, that was Larry Nichols. | ||
| Oh, that was Nichols. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| No, you don't get to play this card. | ||
| You don't get to pretend that. | ||
| Dan, are we broadcasting from the rubble of a nuclear explosion in Chicago? | ||
| I mean, according to Alex's predictions, yes. | ||
| See, that's kind of what I was thinking. | ||
| If he's been right about everything. | ||
| No. | ||
| This is the shell game that you get to play when you're someone like Alex and your audience has just decided to give up. | ||
| Much like you, when you don't have the clip that you want to play. | ||
| Our only option is to give up and believe you're bold. | ||
| Once you've been browbeaten to the point of accepting Alex, You just think like, oh yeah, he has always been saying that they'd use a virus to bring in the world government. | ||
| No, he hasn't. | ||
| If I believe the shit he's saying about now, why wouldn't I believe him when he says now? | ||
| That he said it earlier. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And this actually gets to one of the reasons why, I mean, even, like, if I were Joe Rogan, I would just be personally offended by the way Alex has treated me. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| And I would, just as a matter of, like, self-respect, I wouldn't hang out with him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But, if you want to take it a step farther and discuss, like, what the real issues are, when Alex was on Rogan's podcast last with Tim Dillon, when they had that episode and Alex was... | ||
| One step away from being exposed as having made up Operation Lockstep. | ||
| The way that they dropped the ball there. | ||
| And again, like I said, not their fault. | ||
| They didn't know what the deal was. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But because they didn't, that means Alex wins that point. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Because of that, because Alex didn't get exposed in front of millions of people as having made up this Rockefeller plan that now he's claiming he's known about for 10 years, he gets to play games like this. | ||
| And you have done, at least by virtue of your inability to stand up to the claim, you've helped solidify it. | ||
| You've helped reinforce and make it look like, and the fact that, like, here's what I'm more offended by. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Rogan had every opportunity after that podcast to find out if Alex was full of shit and lying to him. | ||
| And clearly he didn't because he did four hours in an interview with him. | ||
| Yeah, it would suggest he didn't really follow up on stuff. | ||
| Yeah, and that one's such a big obvious one. | ||
| The lockstep thing is just so fucking obvious if you know what he's talking about. | ||
| It's just disgraceful. | ||
| And so this, like I said. | ||
| Personal level, the way Alex has treated Rogan as a person is disgraceful, and no one should put up with that. | ||
| But societally, it does damage. | ||
| Just not being competent at pushing back against Alex's narratives only serves to sell your audience to them. | ||
| It does seem like with propaganda in those kind of outlets, there's one chance to win or you lose forever. | ||
| Like, once you cede ground on that, it's gone. | ||
| It never comes back. | ||
| And if you win, you don't gain the ground, you just don't lose any. | ||
| And it's brutal. | ||
| Yeah, and if you put yourself in that situation, you've got to understand that as the... | ||
| The stakes are high. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Especially if you've got millions of listeners every... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's why if you're somebody who has a platform and you bring somebody on who's maybe a bad actor... | ||
| You have really high levels of responsibility. | ||
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Totally. | |
| If you're somebody who has a show, you can bring on someone like Richard Spencer or Milo Yiannopoulos, but you have a great responsibility to not allow them to frame everything. | ||
| And that is your job. | ||
| And the challenge is such that you cannot half-ass it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Rogan, to his unfortunate naivete or whatever, I don't believe that anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He thinks that he's just having a conversation with friends or whatever. | ||
| At least that's what he wants to present. | ||
| And because of that, you're never going to be in a position. | ||
| And that's why he can't have people like Milo Yiannopoulos on anymore. | ||
| He can't have those guests on anymore because it's too... | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| You can't do it. | ||
| Somehow Alex is still fine, but... | ||
| I don't know how. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| I don't know what we're doing. | ||
| So anyway, we have one last clip here, and Alex has a guest on named Jennifer Fleck, and she claimed that she had footage or something of voter fraud in Austin. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Because, of course, deep blue areas are only deep blue because the Democrats are stealing all the votes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's the only thing that makes sense. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So she's on, and I found this really weird because she was running for some office, lost in the GOP primary, and then became a poll watcher. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Sure, that's good. | ||
| Got into some kind of a dust-up because she had recording equipment and you're not allowed to have that. | ||
| Great, great, great. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I really don't care about any of this. | ||
| Like her voter fraud stories, because they're thin and I don't see any evidence of this. | ||
| How do we let so many people in politics who wouldn't be allowed in a bar? | ||
| Bars have bouncers. | ||
| She wouldn't go to a bar because she's very into God and going to church and all this. | ||
| I read that on her Ballotpedia Q&A. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Anyway, I don't care about their interview at all, but I would just like to demonstrate what sort of people the two of them are as they get into some real ableist shithead joking. | ||
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I remember reading the governor's executive order this summer, and there were like 10 exceptions to businesses closing. | |
| He had like 10 exceptions, and I remember one of them was that he closed all the rafting businesses. | ||
| Your rafting businesses couldn't stay open. | ||
| And I thought... | ||
| How bizarre that he would attack a small business in Texas and let all these other big... | ||
| Let's just say it. | ||
| He's a miserable person. | ||
| I'm sorry he's a handicap. | ||
| He can't go rafting. | ||
| He doesn't want you to. | ||
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Right? | |
| No, it's because float trips were spreading. | ||
| A lot of cases of COVID were happening at float trips. | ||
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Do you not remember the Trump float trip that spread all the shit? | |
| And float trips in rafts and stuff like that are just like 20-year-olds drunk as fuck in big groups, barges going down the river. | ||
| Like, it's obviously, yeah. | ||
| It seems, if you've never been on a float trip before, probably might be like, It's social distance. | ||
| You're in a tube. | ||
| You're in a canoe. | ||
| Maybe someone else is in a canoe a ways away from you. | ||
| That's not always the case. | ||
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| As someone who's been on a lot of float trips, I can see why someone would close a rafting business. | ||
| And that's shitty. | ||
| That's fucking shitty. | ||
| The way they're acting and being like, yeah, he's just mad that he can't go rafting. | ||
| Fuck you, Alex. | ||
| You loved Greg Abbott until he didn't do what you wanted him to do. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We're in a little bit of a bar situation here. | ||
| And now you dare attack him for his disability status. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What a piece of shit. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Anytime you are talking about somebody and then you use A and then a descriptor that is not human. | ||
| Yuck. | ||
| It's like whenever, you know, when you're listening to Andy Daly and Paul F. Hopkins where he was as L. Ron Hubbard, every time you heard him say, like, a Japanese, you're like, that's fucked! | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Yeah, that sort of linguistic framing is terrible. | ||
| It's dehumanizing. | ||
| Yeah, and I resent it. | ||
| And I want to say, everybody who Alex likes now... | ||
| Look at how he's treating people who have behaved in ways that are just slightly outside of what he wants them to do. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| He loved Greg Abbott. | ||
| He was one of the best governors in the country. | ||
| Maybe the best. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Real great governor. | ||
| We love him. | ||
| Now he's being ableist against him. | ||
| He's attacking him not only for him not being extreme enough but on these really shitty personal grounds that are bigoted and horrible. | ||
| Rogan. | ||
| When he's doing what he wants him to do, Alex would be like, he's so brave. | ||
| He's braver than Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Great. | ||
| When he doesn't, he'll bring up your kids and say he's gonna destroy you. | ||
| Cut you in half. | ||
| Bleed you like a pig. | ||
| Consider this. | ||
| This is how Alex operates. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it exists... | ||
| So the thing is, he exists in this form of unreality that has to be total. | ||
| You can't allow a single real thing to come into the unreality bubble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Otherwise, the whole thing bursts. | ||
| So just like if you're seeing your guy, you know, Barr is doing something different, well, now I can't allow that into the bubble, you know? | ||
| Well, it's the nuance that you introduce when you're like, why would Barr, if he's the kind of shithead I want him to be, why would he not do this thing that I think he should do? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You can't, like... | ||
| Well, and not just that, but you've painted the Democrats as total, complete evil. | ||
| So any agreement with the Democrats means you're evil. | ||
| You must be. | ||
| You have to be. | ||
| Otherwise, that introduces the possibility that not all Democrats are evil. | ||
| And then everything falls apart. | ||
| And then it's done. | ||
| Now, I will say that Alex also played a lot of the Trump's speech. | ||
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Sure. | |
| His 49-minute video. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And I don't have a lot of clips of it because Alex didn't editorialize on it all that much. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because it sounds like Alex. | ||
| It sounds exactly like Alex. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, it's word for word. | ||
| It's scary as shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I want to make a point of this as we close the episode that like, yep, that was on his show and it's scary as hell because Trump just sounds like Alex. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's fucking terrifying. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| I don't know what else to say about it. | ||
| I hope. | ||
| You know, it's so weird to talk to my family now because it's like, before, in the old times, you know, they could be like, oh, we're just mainstream Republicans. | ||
| We don't talk about that Alex Jones stuff. | ||
| And it's like, now, you voted for Trump. | ||
| This is what he's saying. | ||
| You're in my world and you're wrong. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So if you want to, you can't argue with me. | ||
| That's over. | ||
| The end. | ||
| You believe this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Done. | ||
| And the thing that really bummed me out, I guess. | ||
| It doesn't bum me out, but it felt really weird. | ||
| Just because I listen to so much Alex, when people would say, like, Trump sounds like Alex Jones, like, nah, not quite. | ||
| There's some slight differences. | ||
| Or it's like, that's not really what Alex's talking point is. | ||
| You'd think it is, but that's... | ||
| Now I listen to the tapes of that, and I was like... | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| This is exactly the same as Alex. | ||
| Trump might as well play that 90 second clip and be like, her name is this. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if he starts doing that soon. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think you just take the support you got and when shit's looking real bad like it is, what you got is Alex and Tom Papert. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Good luck. | ||
| I just keep, like, the thing that I keep thinking is just, like, be wary. | ||
| Be wary. | ||
| Because when these lawsuits and stuff, he's desperate now that when the lawsuits and stuff stop, does anybody really believe he's gonna be like, well, guess I lost this one. | ||
| You know, when the lawsuits are done, he's gotta do something. | ||
| I think he might. | ||
| Desperate. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Oh, you think he might just give up? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He made a bunch of money. | ||
| Well, that's true. | ||
| But he doesn't make enough money. | ||
| None of these guys ever make... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Why does Bezos need another $30 billion as everybody dies around him? | ||
| He doesn't need it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know in us wargaming what we imagine he's going to do. | ||
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Sure. | |
| No, I'm not wargaming. | ||
| I'm just saying be wary. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But trying to predict, I've found, is a useless use of my time. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But being wary is always... | ||
| I think being wary, a lot of people are just thinking it's gonna go away, and I'm just saying, be wary! | ||
| Head on a swivel. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Look around. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Keep an eye out. | ||
| It's not the 79 days of hell, but it is the 79 days of... | ||
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Where are you? | |
| Easy. | ||
| 79 days of careful. | ||
| Careful. | ||
| Watch out. | ||
| It's a wild animal and it's in a corner. | ||
| Just back slowly. | ||
| So we will see what happens. | ||
| But we'll be back. | ||
| Maybe we'll do that Rogan episode sooner than later. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| It is a four hour mystery box to me. | ||
| I did only make it through the first bit of it. | ||
| It could be amazing once it gets rolling or it could be continuing of that just... | ||
| Walking through fucking knee-deep mud. | ||
| Yeah, it has to be a disaster or something to sink your teeth into, because that just... | ||
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See, one thing I like about smoking weed... | |
| Yeah, Joe, we know. | ||
| Yeah, it's good. | ||
| Yeah, great. | ||
| Great, guys. | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| So, we will be back, but until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight, and I go to Bed Jordan. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now. | ||
| Yeah, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis. | ||
| I didn't bring this up earlier, but I think it's really funny that at the time that we started recording this episode, I don't know if Rudy Giuliani actually has COVID. | ||
| Neither do I. Because the headline is just that Trump said he did it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| So who the fuck knows? | ||
| I don't know if Trump actually is right about this. | ||
| He might have just made it up! | ||
| Anyway, that's... | ||
| Pretty, pretty, I don't know. | ||
| It's not a good place to be as a society. | ||
|
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Uh-uh. | |
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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