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Dec. 4, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#508: December 1-2, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check back in on the #79DaysOfHell on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Steve Pieczenik and Roger Stone try to out-bullshit each other, and Alex does such a sad, disappointing job with a scoop that Dan considers becoming a documentarian.

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alex jones
25:16
d
dan friesen
01:26:46
j
jordan holmes
36:40
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r
roger stone
01:49
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steve pieczenik
04:15
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andy in kansas
00:00
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I need, I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot might be a little bit disappointing, but it's, again, Assassin's Creed Valhalla.
I've been taking my time playing it casually.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
One of the things that I found really interesting about the game is, without giving any spoilers or anything, I find myself playing this game and having more moral choices than I have in a lot of other games in the past.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And part of it is there are choices that you can make that I'm almost certain will not affect the game at all.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I feel bad about it.
jordan holmes
They affect you!
Yes, absolutely!
dan friesen
I don't know if it's just that I have not been exposed to games that do that well in the past, but I feel a lot more like these little things that you run into when you're exploring around the world.
It's a little thing, like you can rip somebody off if you want to, and no one will ever know, but you'll know.
You will know!
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I enjoy that.
jordan holmes
Makes me feel bad.
I've had plenty of situations in the game where I realized later on I had just finished a quest, and later on I was playing it.
I was like, I feel bad about what I did to that guy.
I think it was the right thing to do, but you know what?
It doesn't make me feel good.
dan friesen
You failed the test, bro.
So I enjoy that.
It makes the gameplay a little more fun.
And especially because I want to give a bright spot to Age of Calamity, the Hyrule Warriors, but I just can't.
jordan holmes
You just can't.
Disappointed?
dan friesen
I started dabbling in it a little bit because, you know, I can't not.
steve pieczenik
Sure.
dan friesen
Apparently I'm a gamer bro now.
jordan holmes
That's what happened.
That's what happened.
It happened so quick.
You can't go outside and all of a sudden we're gamer gators.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I didn't say gamer gators.
jordan holmes
No, I'm pretty sure that's what you said.
dan friesen
I said I'm a gamer bro.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
I'm just kidding.
I guess my feeling on it is it's fun.
The Age of Calamity is fun.
And if anybody enjoys it, I don't think you're wrong to.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I just kind of had expectations.
That itch wasn't scratched.
Or it hasn't been.
But it's still fun for what it is.
So I can't give it a bright spot.
Gotta keep it on the moral choices.
jordan holmes
Stay the course with Valhalla.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
Maybe adjacent.
Dan, I went to a board game store.
It was very exciting.
We had played together a board game called Mystique.
Yes.
Which I found very enjoyable.
So I was like, you know what?
I think I'm going to get into cooperative board games.
I'm going to find all those.
We're going to play them together.
It's going to be fantastic.
So I went to a board game store.
Guy who was very, very helpful.
Knew everything about board games and card games and the assorted like.
And I was like, hey, I need some help getting a board game.
I'm just starting to get into this.
And he was like, okay, this one is super accessible.
It's called Mansions of Badness.
Brought it home.
There's like 4,000 pieces.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
You need a companion app for a goddamn iPad.
There's damage rolls and shit.
There's a whole thing on it.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
And I was like, this is very exciting.
I don't think we're ever going to play that.
unidentified
And very simple.
jordan holmes
I don't think we're ever going to play that.
And accessible is a different definition.
But I'm very excited about it.
dan friesen
Well, now that you've brought it up, people are going to want us to play it on a live stream or something.
jordan holmes
I don't know if we're going to be able to do that.
Probably not.
dan friesen
That is fun.
I like board games.
They're a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
dan friesen
Yeah, for sure.
So, Jordan, today I've got something I'm looking forward to, and that is a nutty-ass show from Alex.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
Today we're going to be going over December 1st and 2nd, 2020.
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
jordan holmes
Oh, hooray!
dan friesen
That is Tuesday and Wednesday of this week, and I was gonna...
Look, here's the deal.
As I was getting this episode ready, we record on Thursdays, and on Thursday, Alex...
Dropped a big episode with him and Joe Rogan in the Infowars studio.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And of course, this rises the bat signal.
But it doesn't quite rise it in the same way as Alex being on Rogan's show.
Because it's probably not going to be nearly as interesting.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I don't care about Joe Rogan being interviewed by somebody.
jordan holmes
What does he have to say that I'm going to be interested in from an interview perspective?
dan friesen
Alex is interesting.
jordan holmes
What's it like having a hundred million dollars?
dan friesen
Alex is interesting on Rogan because he's desperately trying to steal Rogan's audience.
And he's trying to impress upon them that he knows things and that he is a guru they should follow away from Joe.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Joe being on InfoWars is not that interesting.
Joe's probably just going to be like, ha ha, remember when we wore those masks and got high and ran around Austin?
Ha ha, we're such friends.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Whereas Alex being on Rogan requires an emergency episode.
We gotta get ahead of that thing.
This, I don't fucking know.
jordan holmes
I don't know if anyone will care.
dan friesen
This is a tree falling in a forest and no one's there.
I don't know if that makes a sound.
jordan holmes
Did you hear about it beforehand?
No.
dan friesen
I am gonna listen to it, and if it's worthwhile, it'll be our episode for Monday.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
And if it's not, then we'll just see what's going on now.
It's this regular show.
But I know that by the time this episode is out, people might be aware of the fact that Rogan did a four-fucking-hour episode with Alex.
jordan holmes
What an asshole.
dan friesen
So we'll see on that.
But before we get down to business on today's episode, which, like I said...
A lot of fun.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
dan friesen
Stupid, stupid shit.
I'm excited.
We've got to take a little moment first, though, to thank some folks who've signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good idea.
dan friesen
So first, Jeff A., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Jeff.
dan friesen
Next, Dexter K., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Dexter.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Jordan looks exactly like I imagined, but Dan doesn't.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Joe P. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Joe.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Joseph J. P. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Emily W. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Emily!
dan friesen
Next, Thomas S. Guess what?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
You're a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Thomas.
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first, David M. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Dave, and thank you so much.
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt off elderberry.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you are out there and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support these gents too, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or...
jordan holmes
What you could do is you could gather two to five of your friends ages three and put together a nice little night every week to get together.
Read the rule book.
dan friesen
On Zoom, maybe?
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, absolutely.
Socially distance responsibly.
Get the rule book, by which I mean find some local charities or bail funds in your area to help out, and then get all your friends together and get it done.
dan friesen
Knocked it out of the park.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Nailed it.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
So real quick, before we get going with the actual episode, we've got to take a look at the mailbag.
Z-up.
In here we got a nice little thing from Cassandra S. Oh!
Jordan, you have a little box in front of you.
unidentified
Yes, I do.
dan friesen
Cassandra sent me an Alex Jones coloring book, which I will try to pretend does not exist.
Because it's supposed to be, I mean, coloring books are for kids, right?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
This is terrifying.
jordan holmes
They're adult coloring books now.
That's no phenomenon that people enjoy.
dan friesen
I think I have a Cthulhu coloring book, and that's probably not for kids.
But Alex seems more horrifying.
jordan holmes
It's not for boring kids.
Whoa.
Whoa, this is intense.
Elliot's Espresso Nib Peanut Butter.
Nut butter's grown up.
This is intense.
dan friesen
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Do you see the coloring and everything on this?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It looks like you got peanut butter, chocolate, and espresso.
jordan holmes
And espresso, yeah.
dan friesen
That's a weird butter.
jordan holmes
It looks like you have to shake it up.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I feel like you have some reticence about sort of extravagant butter.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm excited to taste this.
dan friesen
Extravagant nut butter.
jordan holmes
Here's the problem that I'm seeing with this.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
It's not even distribution.
dan friesen
You just gotta stir it.
jordan holmes
I think you're right, but it's looking like there's just weird...
Black chunks at the bottom.
dan friesen
Yeah, those are like cocoa pieces or espresso.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
I'm going to try it.
dan friesen
I look forward to a full report.
jordan holmes
It looks delicious.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Cassandra.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
All right, so here we go.
We're jumping in.
December 1st, Alex opens the show with a video from the night before.
He had some big breaking news, and he had to get down to it.
alex jones
It's Monday night.
We've been working on this story for two weeks, and now the whistleblower has given us the authorization to go forward with the information you are about to see.
This is the first report, and several we're going to be breaking with the documents if MSM challenges this in any way.
dan friesen
This is such a perfect way for Alex to do business.
I love this so much because of how painfully transparent it is.
I don't even know, and I don't need to know what this is about or what this alleged whistleblower is claiming because I know how this is set up.
This isn't how this kind of journalism works, you know, when it's being done sincerely.
If there actually was a whistleblower and there actually were documents that proved whatever it is they're claiming, it would be all released as a story.
The documents would be provided to help give credibility to the claims that the whistleblower was making, because otherwise it's just a person making claims that you aren't really able to fully assess.
Think about it.
In any conceivable world, can you imagine Glenn Greenwald meeting with Snowden, then announcing that he has a whistleblower who's ready to make a bunch of claims, and if anybody challenges them, that's when the documents come.
unidentified
It's fucking absurd.
jordan holmes
I think it's a great idea.
You keep it in your plus two bag of holding until you need it.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
It makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Never would have acted like that.
Because they had documents and they had a story.
jordan holmes
That did help them, yeah.
dan friesen
Without knowing anything about this whistleblower or the claims, I refuse to believe that anyone would behave this way unless this was an incredibly desperate bluff.
jordan holmes
If we are challenged on it.
If we are challenged on it.
What does that even mean?
dan friesen
Yeah, quantify that.
jordan holmes
If somebody says...
Hey, what are you talking about?
They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that's not a challenge.
dan friesen
If you have a story, you'd never hold back the thing that proves your story, promising to release it only if you have to.
That's schoolyard bully or entry-level extortionist shit.
jordan holmes
I will tell you guys about Deep Throat the moment someone asks, but until then, you just gotta believe it.
dan friesen
Also, this goes entirely against Alex's entire career's guiding principle.
He's often told guests that if they have information, they have to get it all out or else they're putting themselves at risk.
Alex constantly says that his guests don't tell him anything off air.
They don't say on air because he doesn't want to have secret information that other people need.
know he has since that's when things get dangerous exactly knowing secrets is okay and it's too late once you've already spilled a secret but Having people know that you know a secret and that you haven't said anything puts a target on your back.
jordan holmes
Dangerous.
This is the gate of gates all over again.
dan friesen
This is exactly what happened back in 2011 when Alex interviewed Bob Chapman.
Bob implied that he had secret intel on Ronald Reagan, which Alex insisted he needed to say on air now because he said that he had these secrets and he was in danger if he didn't get it out in the open.
Then Bob said that he'd seen a video of Reagan getting pegged, and Alex got weirded out and disappointed that it wasn't something more communist.
Getting on air and saying that he has proof he'll produce if pushed back on is anathema to Alex's entire career's methodology.
It's not anathema to a really sadly broken idiot trying to bluff that he has a bombshell story that's actually a dud.
And I say that knowing nothing.
I could tell you that without knowing any other thing about where this clip goes.
jordan holmes
Show me Reagan getting pegged and then I'll believe you.
The end.
dan friesen
So I was like, alright, I don't give a shit.
He could have said anything afterwards and I would have been disappointed.
If you start by saying we have all the proof and if...
If Brian Stelter tries to get Mouthy with me, I'll release the proof.
jordan holmes
I'll do it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Well, then why not release it now?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Does he address that at all?
Why he's waiting for someone to challenge it?
dan friesen
I think he likes to be tricky.
jordan holmes
Okay.
He likes to set traps.
It's just a little fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
No, it's because he has nothing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is about...
Actually, let's see.
Do you think you can guess?
jordan holmes
Dude, I think I can guess what the whistleblower whose documents might be coming out, and this would have been Sunday night.
dan friesen
No, Monday night.
jordan holmes
Monday night.
I want to say it's got something to do with Michigan.
dan friesen
Okay.
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm going to go with.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a major health executive.
Over a 35 hospital network in western Pennsylvania that is exposing the fact that COVID-19 is a completely overblown power grab scam.
Now, we received this information directly from this whistleblower, checked out their credentials, and that was just the beginning.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was surprised, too.
I really thought this would be something election-related.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a little disappointing.
dan friesen
Yeah, I kind of forgot that Alex is spinning multiple plates.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
See, I was caught on my back heel, as they say, when I was like, oh, this is a COVID thing.
jordan holmes
It's almost kind of ridiculous that people are still denying COVID.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's not almost kind of ridiculous.
It's insanely ridiculous.
It was ridiculous before.
dan friesen
But it also seems like this isn't what the season is on your show, Alex.
It seems like this is...
jordan holmes
That's kind of what I was thinking.
dan friesen
Seems like you got bigger issues.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Why are you opening the show with this?
jordan holmes
It's 79 days of hell and we're doing...
Okay, yeah.
dan friesen
So he gets to talking about this whistleblower here, and this is kind of...
I don't think I believe this.
alex jones
This individual is involved in the management of 35 Hospital Network in Western Pennsylvania.
The UPMC is the name of the company.
dan friesen
UPMC stands for the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, and the network actually includes more than 35 hospitals.
Their website includes 36 hospital campuses, but they also have satellite hospitals around that they manage, but they're included in the network.
The bottom line about UPMC is that it is a giant entity.
Their board of directors and executive team are all publicly listed, and I would definitely try and track down who Alex is talking about, but I'm sure it's not someone on that level, and I just...
I started to listen to this...
I'm like, you got these documents you're never going to fucking produce.
You're going to forget this even happened in a week.
I'm not going to amplify the disappointment by trying to figure out which name on this list you're trying to allude to.
I'm not going to read the chicken bones that I've thrown down on the ground.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think you should have to ignore that entirely.
For you to engage with it, he must produce one document that you can research.
Otherwise, he's trying to get around you specifically.
dan friesen
I've gone so far as to find a list of names of the people he's pretending this is, and that's good enough for me for now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's too much work.
You're giving him too much credit.
dan friesen
Well, let's actually hear what this almost certainly fake person has to say.
alex jones
During the latest so-called surge of...
COVID-19, where they claim the hospitals are all overwhelmed, we've got to have a lockdown again, they went from 96 beds to around 600.
That is only 10% of the capacity they have just for COVID-19, and their hospitals are basically wide open.
And here's the most important point.
No deaths of the 600 people.
Most patients stayed overnight for observation because they tested positive.
Media will say hospitalization patients have surged over 600%, but it's the test that's been turned up 45 times, and German courts have ruled that it is a fake test 96% of the time.
dan friesen
So Alex is reading off a bit of an Infowars article there, but he's also just making up a lot of stuff and throwing it in.
Here are the parts of that clip that do not even appear in the InfoWars article about this whistleblower.
And one can only presume Alex is just saying these things to try and imply or associate them with the whistleblower, which is incredibly irresponsible.
This whistleblower article says nothing about anyone saying all the hospitals are overwhelmed.
The circumstances would obviously be different in different areas where there are varying rates of infection that lead to hospitalization and varying levels of available medical resources.
This article does not say that this 600 beds represents 10% of the hospital's capacity.
According to the American Hospital Directory, the hospitals that are listed as part of UPMC, they add up to having 7,371 beds.
But the number that's cited in the blurbs, some that I can find about the network, are 8,000, which I think is probably reasonable.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
600 would actually be less than 10% of that capacity, but it's kind of a meaningless statistic to discuss this way, as we have any information about the distribution of the needed beds.
We don't know where the beds are at various hospitals, nor do we know how many of these beds are ICU beds or airborne isolation beds.
According to Trib Live, as of November 20th, there were 17% availability on the latter bed type, which is enough to worry people.
This is not something that could be easily captured by a simple statistic, but that's what Alex is trying to do, which is also an addition to the article.
It's not in there, the 10% of their bed.
I don't know if he's making that up or...
I don't know.
It doesn't appear to be coming from this whistleblower.
Alleged whistleblower.
jordan holmes
Why not toss it in there?
dan friesen
As for the no deaths thing among 600 hospitalized individuals, I would be interested in seeing proof of that.
Pittsburgh is in Allegheny County, and on Tuesday, the day this is coming out, 18 people died with COVID-19 in that county.
But UPMC has hospitals in other counties, too, which also have registered deaths.
I just don't know anything about this claim, and I just would need to see whatever documents Alex has withhold.
So I guess I challenge it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I suppose that's the only thing you can do?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not MSM, but...
jordan holmes
Okay, we challenge you to produce the documents.
dan friesen
And a thumb war.
jordan holmes
Yeah, is that all I have?
dan friesen
Yeah.
The stuff about the test being turned up 45 times does not appear in the article about this whistleblower, and it seems to be Alex is putting words in their mouth.
Similar things, I could say, about the nonsense about the German courts.
What Alex is doing here is he's taking a very boring supposed whistleblower claim and then riffing on it to make it seem more bombshell.
If you read the actual article on this, all the person appears to be claiming is that the hospitalization in the UPMC system went up from 96 to 600 beds that were occupied during this last period that's being characterized as a surge.
No specific data is given about these patients, just that quote, patients were kept in observation overnight and no deaths resulted.
This is non-specific to the point of being meaningless, but Pennsylvania has a database where you can find all the information about county-level hospital bed availability, which can give you a sense of the picture if you want.
In the last available report, in the entirety of the state, there are 4,290 adult ICU beds total.
Of those, 695 are available, which is 16%.
I mean, there's other, you know, you could look at the other statistics, too, that you want, but there's one.
There's 16% of ICU beds are available in the entire state of Pennsylvania.
I can't stress this enough.
This is not a whistleblower delivering meaningful information.
And if you read on through the InfoWars article about this, you kind of see what's going on.
Quote, if you start with five patients to 25, the media will say there's a 500% increase in cases.
Sounds terrifying, right?
This article is essentially in force trying to explain how numbers work to their audience, while also trying to make them distrustful and suspicious about percentage signs.
Sure, a 600% increase sounds scary, but it could just be like 20 more people, so who cares?
It's no big deal.
But this line of argumentation is really not good, because a jump from 5 cases somewhere to 25 would definitely be a bad sign.
I don't know if you remember what the numbers were like early on.
in the coronavirus days.
But if there had been a jump like that in February people would rightly have been worried about it.
And if you're in a small town, let's say, that has five cases right now, and tomorrow there's 25, that would be a big deal.
jordan holmes
That's a real problem.
dan friesen
And it would definitely be an indication of deep community transmission.
What Alex is attempting to do here is make this reality of rising COVID cases and hospitalizations not worry his audience by taking the numbers and shrinking them.
It's baffling, really, because even for Alex, this is a little insulting to his audience's intelligence.
This is him banking on them not feeling really talked down to.
By bringing in a fake whistleblower to explain how percentages work.
This is really elementary stuff, and it's kind of degrading.
I don't think highly of his audience either, but this is insulting.
jordan holmes
Hey, if you only take the first few little bits of a logarithmic scale, it looks not scary at all.
It's the last part of the parabola.
If you just ignore the last part of the parabola where it goes...
Real fast.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Then you're going to be fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Numbers.
You don't have to worry about them.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, a 500% increase could be one to five.
Or it could be a lot more.
jordan holmes
Well, you can't prove that, though.
dan friesen
I don't even know what kind of charade is being...
jordan holmes
All right, let's start here.
If you multiply two by two, that's so much, but that's only four.
And then if you multiply that by two, that seems like a lot, but that's only eight.
And then if you multiply that by two, it's 16, and that is quite a bit more.
And then if you multiply that by two, it's 32. Then it's 64, and then it's 128.
Holy shit, man!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex keeps on going on.
This has nothing to do with the whistleblower, but he's just now, I guess, attacking the idea of testing.
alex jones
You've seen the big reports about the famous female CEO that had a test that could find cancer in your blood, and it was incredible, and they made hundreds of billions of dollars, and it turned out it was all a scam.
That's what this PCR scam is, and the inventor of it came out and said just that.
dan friesen
So, a couple things real quick.
Carey Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test, died on August 7th, 2019.
He did not come out and say anything about the PCR test for COVID-19 being a fraud, which was what Alex is trying to imply.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, here is the clip that Alex immediately after plays of comments that Carey Mullis has made.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
If they could find this virus in you at all, and with PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody.
It starts making you believe in the sort of Buddhist notion that everything is contained in everything else, right?
I mean, because if you can amplify one single molecule up to something that you can really measure, which PCR can do, then there's just very few molecules that you don't have at least one single one of them in your body, okay?
So that could be thought of as a miscarriage.
dan friesen
So that's the entire clip that Alex plays of Mullis.
This comment is out of context.
It's from a question and answer session that Mullis did about using PCR testing to detect HIV back in 1993.
A lot of the stuff sounds applicable to the current pandemic, but it's really not.
The most damning you could make this quote out to be is to understand that maybe Mullin...
Mullis was expressing that this form of test isn't good for determining the quantity of something in somebody, rather it detects the presence or absence of it.
You could do that, I guess.
But it's important to understand the context of these comments that he was making, though, because it sounds like what he's saying is that if you look at people, you can find any disease in them.
But that's not the case.
He's talking about HIV patients, and specifically about how if you have that virus, there's a good chance you may have others, and maybe many others.
He literally says that almost exactly after where Alex cuts the clip off.
unidentified
You don't need to test for HIV.
You don't need to test for the other 10,000 retroviruses that are unnamed also in the subject.
See, somebody that's got HIV generally is going to have almost anything that you can test for because they have definitely been...
HIV is a fairly rare virus.
dan friesen
At the beginning of Alex's clip, Mullis says, if they find this virus in you at all, with PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody.
It's selectively edited to make it sound like Mullis is saying that using PCR, doctors can find any virus in anyone.
In its proper context, which Alex deprives the audience of, it's clear that the virus that he's referring to, so when he says, if they can find this virus in you at all, he's talking about HIV.
And his contention that if you can find HIV in a person, his contention is that you can find most viruses.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Probably.
Sure.
Also, not to get too far off track here, but Carey Mullis, though the inventor of PCR testing, is not someone who's remembered super well in the field of HIV and AIDS, as he was a denialist of the conclusion that HIV causes AIDS.
jordan holmes
Fair, fair.
dan friesen
The point that's relevant to our situation, though, today is that Alex's clip that he's using of Mullis to attack the use of PCR for COVID-19 testing is completely out of context and doesn't mean anything.
The complaint that Alex is making about PCR testing here isn't about COVID-19 specifically.
It's about the entirety of PCR as a testing method.
And he's expecting the audience to believe that the inventor of PCR testing, who won a Nobel Prize for the discovery, has said that it doesn't actually do anything to find anything in anybody with it.
jordan holmes
I would assume he said that after he got the Nobel.
I don't think part of your campaign for the Nobel is, honestly, this thing doesn't do shit at all.
dan friesen
I dunked on you fools!
jordan holmes
What is he saying?
Tricked ya!
Surprise!
dan friesen
I'd like to thank the Nobel board for being so fucking dumb.
jordan holmes
I think the thing...
unidentified
That's quite an accepted speech.
dan friesen
Bunch of morons.
jordan holmes
I think the problem that I have is he didn't tell me that the video was from 93. Like, if you tell me anything about any testing, like, if this is from 93, if it happened before an iPhone, then I don't know if I can use it.
I don't care yet.
dan friesen
You know what I'm saying?
Well, yes and no.
jordan holmes
No, it's not perfect.
It's not like the way anybody should live their lives.
But if you're talking about PCR testing in 2020 versus something that Akai said before the iPhone happened, I kind of think that I don't care.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
If you are using science from when grunge was king.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
If science hasn't advanced since then, we're in trouble.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If counting crows were cool when the science was around, I'm not interested.
jordan holmes
It's a long November.
dan friesen
So Alex is playing this...
It is November.
Good stuff.
jordan holmes
Thanks, buddy.
dan friesen
This is my November.
This is my December.
Damn it, that's a Linkin Park song.
Anyway, Alex is playing this special report of his...
He just cuts off in the middle of it.
alex jones
They're banning medical doctors and epidemiologists, virologists, and scientists who come out and point all this out because they want to use this hysteria.
jordan holmes
For what?
What do they want to use the hysteria for?
dan friesen
I was overwhelmed.
Because this episode started with him talking about this giant whistleblower who has the documents that they'll be revealed if anybody flexes.
And then it just cuts off in the middle.
I'm like, wait a second.
Maybe that wasn't important.
Maybe that was filler.
jordan holmes
I guess that sounds a little bit like he didn't really care about that.
dan friesen
Maybe I got tricked into researching filler.
jordan holmes
You got Nobel prized, my friend.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was like, oh, wait a second.
All right.
So anyway, Alex is just late for the show.
jordan holmes
Okay, of course.
dan friesen
But apparently you're supposed to take that seriously.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There is a whistleblower.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he got caught off in the middle because Alex finally showed up to the office.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
He was busy.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
I have been preparing for this broadcast since 6 a.m. this morning.
And the news is so massive, so over the top, so dangerous.
jordan holmes
But what about the whistleblower?
alex jones
I was unable to go on until 12 minutes into the transmission.
jordan holmes
That was five minutes!
dan friesen
Yeah, so, okay, Alex had to take the first 12 minutes off because he was so busy working on this news.
jordan holmes
Since 6am.
dan friesen
Yep.
He was so busy that he had to distract me with another gigantic bombshell story.
jordan holmes
A huge bombshell story.
Unfortunately, we can't spend any time on it.
dan friesen
No, because this other story is the biggest news ever.
jordan holmes
Way bigger.
alex jones
We've talked about things that Project Veritas has broken.
We've talked about things that Breitbart's broken.
We've talked about things Tucker Carlson has broken.
jordan holmes
All of which are the world.
alex jones
When they do big things to say they've broken the biggest thing ever.
This isn't about credit, but I have to tell you, we are breaking information on this show today that is the biggest thing ever broken concerning this fraudulent election and what happened.
dan friesen
Alex has the number one biggest.
Go to bed, James O 'Keefe.
jordan holmes
But I really feel like the whole Germany's courts invalidating all testing.
As 96% fraud.
I think that's a way bigger story than any election stuff.
There are people dying around the world.
Millions of them.
dan friesen
I mean, Alex would make that argument on another day.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
But he was late because he was working on this gigantic scoop.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
I messed up.
dan friesen
And everything is going really crazy on the first.
Because there's, you know...
Trump's attorney, Lin Wood, is going batty, talking about how Trump needs to declare martial law.
jordan holmes
No, doing great.
Doing great.
Lawyers, that's what you want them saying.
dan friesen
Sidney Powell and Rudy are going buck wild.
jordan holmes
They're fantastic.
No, I'm glad they're getting paid a lot of money.
dan friesen
Just a lot of nutty stuff is happening.
So I wasn't sure what this big news Alex had to break was.
jordan holmes
Could be literally anything.
dan friesen
Could be.
I thought this was it, but it's not.
But I found this clip incredibly charming.
alex jones
But let me just drop it on you right now.
Infowars.com live show feed headline.
Must watch Tuesday live.
That's got a typo, but that's okay.
Top lawyers advise Trump to declare martial law, hold new election.
And that headline just went out minutes ago.
My typo.
Typing that myself.
Let's get that fixed, please.
dan friesen
Something quaint about that.
unidentified
I hate it!
jordan holmes
But I appreciate it.
dan friesen
He knows that he did that.
He knows that that was his typo.
jordan holmes
You know what?
dan friesen
Can't get too mad about it.
jordan holmes
Can't get me mad at you guys?
Somebody please fix that.
dan friesen
Please make up my...
If it was someone else's fault...
jordan holmes
I'd lose my shit and kill everybody here!
dan friesen
Well, he would be super furious, but he'd also be telling you how not mad he was.
There's something kind of quaint about just him being like...
There's a typo there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is one of those small, refreshing human moments where you're like, you know what, at least you got that one.
dan friesen
I am about to get on air and talk about how it actually is really cool that Trump is being told to declare martial law.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Ah, shit, I made a typo there.
It's like when a tweet goes viral and it's got a typo in it.
Like, oh no.
jordan holmes
I can never take it back.
Oh no.
I can never take it back.
It's been screenshotted.
dan friesen
It's interesting because you're talking about this human moment there.
And I think that one of the things that made this episode and the content we were going to get into, particularly like...
Kind of, I don't know, elevated to me a little bit.
There's a little bit of pathos in here.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There's a little bit.
I don't want to make you or the audience or anybody feel any kind of pity or sympathy or empathy for Alex as an actor in this world at all.
But I think that there's a point in this December 1st episode where you can't help but feel like, God damn, this is sad.
jordan holmes
Hey, we all still appreciate Macbeth.
He wasn't a good guy.
But we can feel the pathos of his choices.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
There is a tragedy to this episode.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, that's what I'm seeing.
dan friesen
And it all begins in this next clip.
alex jones
Then there's this story.
I hired a respected security firm that's done security research for the Army and other groups to dig in when I was asked by the White House We got the proof.
We checked it with the SEC, confirmed it two days ago, and we now publish the findings at Infowars.com.
Firm that owns Dominion Voting Systems received $400 million from a Swiss bank account with connection to Chinese government before election.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a scandal.
dan friesen
There's a lot going on in there, and I really enjoyed it.
It's been a while, but it felt like this was really a conspiracy I could dig into.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
So, apparently, the company that owns Dominion, they got a bunch of money from the Chinese government or something.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is amazing.
In these kinds of cases, the first thing I like to do is I like to go to Infowars and see what the articles there actually say.
And actually, this was an instance, literally, unlike any that I think I've ever encountered.
And that's because this article includes links to five PDF documents that are apparently used to prove their case.
Wait, five?
jordan holmes
Five?
Five?
dan friesen
I've never seen...
jordan holmes
Not one link to a zero hedge...
dan friesen
I've never seen embedded, like, documents.
jordan holmes
Full-on docs.
dan friesen
Crazy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Four of them are apparently SEC documents that have the following disclaimer on top of them in big letters.
jordan holmes
Wee, wee, wee!
dan friesen
Quote, the Securities and Exchange Commission has not necessarily reviewed the information in this filing and is not determined if it's accurate and complete.
The reader should not assume that the information is accurate and complete.
jordan holmes
I don't hear any difference between what you read and what I said.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're very similar.
This is not a good start.
So that's four of them.
And the fifth is a link that goes to a Reuters article.
This is not great in terms of documents, but there was another problem that immediately jumped out at me.
The article begins with this sentence.
Quote, an investigation into SEC filings has revealed that the firm which owns Dominion Voting Systems received $400 million from a Swiss bank with close links to the Chinese government less than a month before the election.
In that clip we just heard, Alex said that the White House had asked him to look into this three weeks ago, and then he hired a firm to do the research.
Where it all falls apart is there's an editor's note at the end of the article.
jordan holmes
They've got to get rid of the things.
dan friesen
Quote...
A previous version of this article incorrectly credited a particular research firm for performing this investigation.
That information was erroneous, and this article has been updated to correct that.
We apologize for the confusion.
jordan holmes
Okay, so the research firm was not involved whatsoever.
dan friesen
Well, it's certainly getting confusing now, isn't it?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem to be that way.
dan friesen
This is amazing, and it definitely indicates a problem.
An archived copy of this article from Before the Correction credits the investigation to, quote, Austin Security and Investigation Solutions.
This is a real company, but based on their website, they don't appear to be a research firm.
They're more like the kind of people you get to do an unofficial stakeout or help you make court filings.
Maybe like when Alex had people following his wife around.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So it's the type of place that also sells nanny cams if you're in the store, they've got some stuff for you.
dan friesen
If you suspect...
jordan holmes
We'll do a little...
Freelance investigation.
dan friesen
If you suspect someone's cheating, maybe you have them stake out their apartment or something.
jordan holmes
That's their type of deal.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
They're hard-boiled detectives, Dan.
dan friesen
The only thing I can conclude is that either Alex is making up that some group did this research to make it seem more official, or he needed this company's help to find SEC filings, and then he tried to credit them for the conclusions he arrived at, and they told him, keep our name off this shit.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
I'm not going to address the reality or falsity of any of the claims.
About this conspiracy while I explain it to you, just for the sake of simplicity.
jordan holmes
All right, okay.
dan friesen
According to Alex, Dominion is owned by a company called Staple Street Capital.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
This group received $400 million from a company called UBS Securities.
UBS Securities is a Swiss investment bank that also owns a company called UBS Securities Company Limited, which is an investment bank that caters to the Chinese market.
UBS owns approximately 25% of this Chinese investment bank, with the Chinese government being the other owner through a number of other entities.
So, the conspiracy here is that the parent company of Dominion got some money from a Swiss investment bank which also owns a separate bank which the Chinese government is heavily invested in.
Even if every step of this is true and no one screwed up or fudged any of the details...
It still doesn't prove anything.
This is not a meaningful connection between Dominion and China.
Unfortunately, someone screwed up or fudged some details.
For one, this article on Infowars claims that Staple Street Capital acquired Dominion voting systems in 2018.
This is kind of imprecise.
On July 16th, 2018, it was announced that Dominion Voting Systems, quote, has been acquired by its management team and Staple Street Capital.
This was partially an acquisition, but not in the same way as them outright buying Dominion.
It was more of like a partnering and a deep investment.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
A little bit of a merger plus venture capital kind of mix up there.
dan friesen
It's in that territory.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Second.
Second, the article mentions that, quote, on October 8, 2020, Staple Street Capital filed SEC Form D offerings and sales amount of $400 million with the sales compensation recipient identified as UBS Securities.
This is meant to imply that UBS Securities paid Staple Street $400 million to use Dominion to steal the election, but...
The reality is that Form D with the SEC is used to report on the sale of securities.
I hate to sound like I don't think $400 million is a lot of money, but when you're in the investment market, it's not really that much to a company like Staples Street.
It's definitely not enough to pay them to rig a fucking election.
That's a comically low amount for that kind of work, and also, I would assume they'd do the payoff more than a month before the election.
Seems weird.
Timing?
I don't know about that.
jordan holmes
By the time you see these people get bribed, I keep finding them taking so little amounts of money for the most...
I could actually buy somebody only getting $400 million to steal an election that's worth $20 trillion every day.
dan friesen
I can't.
jordan holmes
I see these people do, oh, we stole $50 million and I got paid $50 grand to my re-election fund?
That's what they do!
They're insane!
dan friesen
I think that what you're talking about is sort of the, like...
Boilerplate blase corruption.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Not stealing elections.
jordan holmes
Okay, that might be a bigger thing than I'm really throwing it out as.
dan friesen
Yeah, I do think that sometimes payoffs for corrupt...
Doing business kind of things might not be the size that you'd imagine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is a pretty big fucking heist.
jordan holmes
It is a bit of a heist, yeah.
dan friesen
Far more likely, this was a payment from UBS Securities for purchasing some equity of investments that are held by Staples Street.
This does seem to be the case, since in the form that Alex links to from the SEC, it says that this is, quote, equity and, quote, pooled investment fund interests.
The third problem is probably the one that requires the least fact-checking, but also is the biggest problem.
Alex wants to confuse his audience and readers about the entities UBS Securities and UBS Securities Company Limited.
UBS Securities is the one that bought securities from Staples Street, and that's the Swiss investment bank.
UBS Securities Company Limited is the Chinese investment bank co-owned by the Chinese government and UBS Securities.
UBS Securities Company Limited did not buy securities from Staples Street, but because the names are so similar, Alex wants the audience to come away with that impression.
That the entity that is part owned by the Chinese government is the one that's giving the 400 million Yeah, that's not the case at all.
This is why the conclusion to this article is just unearned quote The revelation that Dominion voting systems has financial ties to the Chinese government via UBS security Yeah.
Also...
I hate to crash Alex's parade here, or rain on it, and crash his party simultaneously, but this story was not broken by Infowars.
They did a post about it, an article, on December 1st, and good for them.
Unfortunately, this exact conspiracy, using the exact same PDF files from the SEC that Alex linked to, What's going around on QAnon Twitter as early as November 29th?
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Alex is running around like he's late for the show because of breaking news, but it's a fucking days old QAnon post.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
Alex is just taking bullshit QAnon conspiracies one of his interns finds online, and then he's pretending that it's the product of an investigation that he hired a firm to do because the White House asked him to.
This is a pathetic level of insincerity and grift.
When you actually realize what Alex is doing, it becomes really disgusting to think about.
He, as a person, knows that the White House didn't ask him to do this investigation.
He knows that he didn't pay Austin Security and Investigation Solutions to find these documents.
That's the backstory that he needs to create to make himself look like a big, strong boy for his audience, when he might as well just be re-reaching.
Like, it's really...
Gross to think about.
He knows what he's doing.
Being in that moment where you're so sad that you have to take QAnon posts and pretend that the fucking White House paid you or they got you because you're the best.
You're the bravest around.
You're the only person who can get this information out.
So we need you to do it.
So I dug deep in my pockets and I paid the best researchers to find these SEC filings that you just found on fucking QAnon.
Get the fuck out of here.
It's so sad.
Being that hollow, that weak, in that moment, it's amazing.
jordan holmes
He's a little bit like the America's Funniest Home Videos of the Q world now, you know?
Where, like, he takes stuff that you could find on the internet in two seconds that went around yesterday and packages it in for people who only watch TV.
He's like Tosh.0, but if Tosh was like, I got these from the fucking Chairman Mao himself...
dan friesen
You stumbled onto, actually, a really good metaphor, and it's why America's Funniest...
jordan holmes
Stumbled onto?
dan friesen
Well, it's why America's Funniest Home Videos...
The videos was like a big ratings driver.
And something like Tosh.0 is fine, but whatever.
It wasn't that great because the internet did exist.
You could find those videos then.
Back when America's Funniest Home Videos was on, that was the only game in town.
jordan holmes
Just like Alex.
dan friesen
Exactly.
There was a time.
jordan holmes
But then the internet existed.
dan friesen
There was a time when he was the only person who could provide you with nut shots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and America's Funniest Home Videos still exists now in much the sad place that Alex...
Alex Jones exists.
Yeah.
Brutal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That means QAnon is Tosh.0.
jordan holmes
Is QAnon Bob Saget?
steve pieczenik
No.
jordan holmes
Just Bob Saget's later career?
dan friesen
Bob Saget might actually be QAnon, though.
That might be true.
I'm entirely sure.
jordan holmes
I could buy it.
dan friesen
So, Alex...
jordan holmes
The aristocrats.
dan friesen
So, now that...
Yeah, the aristocrats are just the family telling the story of, like, all right, so there's a cabal.
What do they call the cabal?
jordan holmes
The aristocrats!
The aristocrats, alright.
dan friesen
So Alex is like, this story is not good.
It doesn't work.
The proof that he has doesn't back up the claims.
There isn't, like, these documents don't show nefariousness to the level that he's implying.
And it's all just stuff he's cribbing from QAnon.
And he just won't give up this charade that he's on.
alex jones
This is so huge.
But let me give you the big Infowars exclusive of two big Infowars exclusives that the system is fighting and battling as hard as it can to make sure it does not get out to anybody.
Firm that owns Dominion Voting Systems received $400 million from Swiss Bank with connection to Chinese government before election.
dan friesen
So yeah, man, they're trying to keep this under wraps.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
InfoWars exclusives.
Now when Alex is going over the story, it's interesting because I guess he hasn't got the memo.
alex jones
The investigation conducted by Austin Security and Investigation Solutions centers on Staple Street Capitol.
dan friesen
Certainly hope you won't have to give an apology publicly to Austin Security.
Solutions.
Yeah, I wonder if they have anything to say about you associating them with your bullshit that you took from QAnon while you were on the air.
alex jones
I like it.
dan friesen
I wonder if they're thrilled about that.
jordan holmes
I think we should see what they think.
dan friesen
I wonder.
I would have maybe checked in on it, but I don't like to stir the pot.
jordan holmes
Ah, come on now.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex, as he's going over the story, too, the story sucks.
It doesn't work.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
But it sucks even more, because he just makes up conclusions.
alex jones
So the real headline is, Chinese Communist government caught laundering 400 million through Swiss Bank to Dominion, month before election.
Whoa!
jordan holmes
Whoa!
Well, you got me there.
dan friesen
That whoa, I can't hear it any other way than it being Alex kind of being impressed with himself.
unidentified
I can't believe I did that.
jordan holmes
Oh, look at this shit!
This sounds real.
We got five PDFs.
Admittedly, four of them say, don't believe anything in these, but we're still doing great.
dan friesen
One time I was riding my bike and I went down a hill and I lost control of the bike and I was able to get a shoulder down on my way down and I ended up rolling and I got like...
It was one of the coolest things that no one else saw.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I landed more or less like I had meant to do it.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, yeah.
You did a little bit of an acrobatic move.
dan friesen
It was all an accident.
It was all just landing exactly coincidentally how I needed to to roll over and then sort of be on my feet.
jordan holmes
Sure, all of a sudden you just woke up in the gymnast pose like bowing to the judges that aren't there.
unidentified
Whoa!
jordan holmes
Whoa, whoa!
dan friesen
Yeah, that's kind of that.
jordan holmes
It does have a little bit of that.
unidentified
I just fucking said that I proved that China paid Dominion.
Whoa!
jordan holmes
It is a little bit like the first time you throw a rolled up piece of paper into a garbage can in the office from a ways away and everybody sees it and you're like, whoa!
This always happens when no one's looking!
Holy shit, I got this one!
dan friesen
But for Alex, everyone who's in the studio is like, ugh.
No one's impressed.
Anyway.
This is so sad to me.
Like, I understand.
I can see the audience, our audience, and everyone's laughing at Alex, and I don't begrudge you for it.
And I probably am only sad because I'm overly invested in this sort of story.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's just so sad to me to see this guy who knows that he's lying.
jordan holmes
Impressed with himself?
dan friesen
Yeah, but lying about why you should be impressed with him.
This is so gross.
alex jones
Now, I was put on the lead of this by a very high-level individual in the White House, and I said, why me?
And they said, look, we already know it's there.
This has to be independent.
You need to go find it.
So I hired a security firm, and I told them, dig, and then this came in.
And it's all confirmed.
dan friesen
Like, he has to create this whole spy novel where the White House is like, you're independent, this has got to come from the outside.
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
This sounds like Pachanek wrote it for him.
I mean, even kind of like, so the White House came to me and told me to investigate things, and this is what showed up.
dan friesen
I can tell you that Steve didn't.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Because Steve does show up later, and Alex...
Brings some of this up to him, and Steve's really not into it.
unidentified
Against it.
jordan holmes
Not for it.
Okay.
Of course.
dan friesen
But some...
jordan holmes
Steve's got a zag.
dan friesen
Some Steve-ish person, perhaps.
jordan holmes
This is very Stevie.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know what the deal is, or like, you know, obviously...
This came from, like, QAnon posts and online conspiracy swamp nonsense.
jordan holmes
And Alex is the basis for Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan character.
dan friesen
But man, the patheticness of coming up with how important you are and needing to project that to the audience is just like...
God damn.
I don't know how you could live like that.
It's just so false.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex is getting down to business on the Lin Wood situation.
The president's lawyer who has said that Trump needs to call for martial law.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And hey, why not call for a new election?
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
Do you think Alex is for or against this idea?
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with for, but I would even almost argue against the new election part.
Just stick with martial law for good.
dan friesen
No, he's just for it all.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And I'm going to go ahead and again read you this headline right here.
Attorney Lin Wood, President Trump should declare martial law and hold new election.
Then he goes through in this full-page article, full-page ad.
You can still pay to get your speech out, I guess, in America.
And I totally agree with his constitutional analysis.
dan friesen
Hey, totally agrees with Flynn Wood that we need to just fucking have a new election because he lost.
jordan holmes
Why are you guys wasting my time even saying a new election?
Shut up.
Like, if he wins that one, you guys are going to be like, well, I guess we were wrong this time.
dan friesen
Yeah, like if Biden wins the same time.
alex jones
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on.
Like, you're going to let the election be whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Shut the fuck up.
Just say you want Trump to be president for life and you'll destroy the republic for it.
dan friesen
Hey, Jordan, shut up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The only way there could be a fair election is if it didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Is this a Zen Cohen?
dan friesen
Trump voting machines.
Trump branded voting machines.
It's the only way to be sure.
The only way you can trust that it's impartial is if they're made by Trump's companies.
jordan holmes
All right.
Let me pitch you this.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Everybody but Trump's own companies are against him.
Exactly.
Obviously.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
He makes his own voting machines.
They look very similar to him.
They've got a computer screen where his chest is.
If you press for Biden, little...
Container opens up, a little gun comes out.
Boom!
Gotta vote for Trump every time.
dan friesen
The gun swabs you.
jordan holmes
The Trump Dalek.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex, one of the reasons that there needs to be a new election is this story.
alex jones
By the way, they now have a Dominion engineer in the key county in Georgia walking up illegally, plugging a thumb drive in, walking out with it for a few hours, coming back and plugging it back in.
Totally illegal.
That's how you change votes.
I mean, we have them, folks.
We have them.
We have them.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't even know what county this video is from.
It's a key county.
Please.
He doesn't even care about this shit at all.
He's just literally repeating QAnon posts from social media, he saw.
This is just another one.
This was a QAnon witch hunt that started from a video of a Dominion technician doing their job, which in the imagination of these idiots on social media became proof of a person changing votes.
The proof that's given for this is that people watching the video assume that must be what the guy's doing, therefore it's been proven.
It's almost comically dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is very stupid.
dan friesen
What's less laughable is the fact that the major players of the Q bullshit were amplifying and leading a doxing campaign against this Dominion employee who is now almost certainly afraid for his life.
This employee was not manipulating votes, but now, because of people like Alex Jones and Ron Watkins, a huge chunk of the public thinks that he's either definitely or probably guilty of changing votes.
This is a real person.
Who's been singled out and had a nefarious story written about him for no reason, except to satisfy the corruption lust of a disenchanted group of conspiracy lunatics.
And now, he's got people tweeting nooses at him.
So, fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, QAnon, the conservative media has essentially turned all of the internet into the eye of Sauron, and if it at any time points upon you, you'll be destroyed.
dan friesen
Yeah, and good job just amplifying that out, and good job learning the lessons of your career.
Like, good job...
Good job figuring out the things that have gotten you in trouble in the past and then continuing to do those things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he has in a way learned the lessons, which is that there are no negative consequences except for people who aren't him and he doesn't care about them.
dan friesen
Well, at least he doesn't bring up the guy's name, so there's that.
Anyway, we need martial law, and the reason we do is because there's already martial law or maybe something, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Sure, whatever.
alex jones
This is the UN Global Takeover.
So the response is martial law to stop their martial law and arrest them.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, we need a coup to stop the counter-coup.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we gotta coup the coupers before they coup us, and then they'll be couped.
dan friesen
We need martial law in order to fight martial law.
And you know what?
Trump kind of has to do it.
jordan holmes
He does.
alex jones
Roger Stone calls on Trump to seize total power and...
Assert martial law.
What he said was he has total power in the Constitution.
If they have Dominion software and fraudulent stuff, he has to move and seize those.
If the FBI and the courts won't act, he has to declare the civil emergency.
He's the executive.
Protect the Republic.
This is when you do it.
I'm an expert on martial law, ladies and gentlemen.
Because the U.N. wanted to have it through Obama or the Clintons to take our guns.
This is them doing it to move the president out to do it.
This is their U.N. globalist medical martial law, as the archbishop and others have called it.
It's what it is.
To circumvent the government and hope the government just stands back and watches it all happen!
dan friesen
I gotta say, after that clip, I really do think that he is an expert on martial law.
And, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
So, if I understand this correctly, the UN is declaring martial law.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So, Trump has to declare martial law in order to stop the UN's martial law.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Now, I'm gonna toss this out there for you as a possibility.
So, Trump has declared martial law.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And martial law is declared.
What if the UN just removes Trump?
We're still in martial law.
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
I mean, like, once we're in martial law, it doesn't matter.
Somebody's going to be the martial law person forever.
You know, in Alex's world, it's forever.
dan friesen
That's something that has always been a part of his ideas.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now, let me float this.
unidentified
Look.
dan friesen
Sure.
Their martial law is bad and it'll happen forever because you can't trust anybody.
Once they get in power, they'll never get out of power.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Except for Donald Trump because he's really cool.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So you just gotta let him have martial law temporarily, which I have told you on many occasions is impossible and doesn't exist.
unidentified
Sure.
But it will.
dan friesen
Trust me.
He just wants to clean stuff up and then he'll stop the martial law.
jordan holmes
Right.
But it seems like you're just getting rid of one of the steps that they would have to take.
unidentified
Well, you know, look.
jordan holmes
Because then they could just kill him and you're already.
unidentified
Under martial law, and then they don't even have to bring in their people.
dan friesen
I don't know how Alex would respond to that.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, it's just dumb.
jordan holmes
It's very stupid.
dan friesen
For Mr. martial law, Mr. anti-martial law, whose whole career has largely been about how...
Tyrants never give up power once they achieve some modicum of power.
For him to be like, no, we need a dictatorship for a short time in order to solve the problems of my imaginary enemies.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
It's just kind of silly.
It's not funny.
It's sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's very pathetic.
Listening to somebody talk like that and not be challenged with just the simplest of like...
That's dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah, from anyone around them, from their long-time listeners, audience, from a voice within themselves.
jordan holmes
Yeah, something.
dan friesen
Like anything pushing back and being like, do you hear yourself?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like it's a wonderful life, but instead of the angel showing up, he just jumps.
At the beginning, he's just like, eh, fuck it.
dan friesen
Or like a Christmas carol, but like all the ghosts are like, Scrooge, you're great.
jordan holmes
You're the best.
You're just so great, man.
You are just doing so good.
When you die, you're gonna get to hang with us.
We're gonna have a great old time.
dan friesen
Hey, hey, Christmas morning, here's what you gotta do.
unidentified
Beat up Tiny Tim.
Take his crutch.
jordan holmes
Take his fucking crutch, man!
Yeah, yeah, yeah!
Get him!
Get him!
As in death, so in life!
unidentified
Woo!
The ghost of Christmas past, just get him!
Get him!
dan friesen
Yeah, so I mean, like Alex, it's just getting dictator-y as hell up in here.
alex jones
Therefore, we the people must demand...
dan friesen
Real quick, he's reading Linwood's statement that he made.
It's a long statement.
Alex reads most of it.
I don't care.
But anyway, this is just a part of that and Alex's take on it.
alex jones
Therefore, we the people must demand a new and fair national vote, a vote that all Americans can trust and live by regardless of the winner.
Without a fair vote, we fear, with good reason, the threat of a shooting civil war is imminent.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
Gun sales are at all-time high and 40% for the first-time gun owners looking to defend themselves, their property, and their rights.
Therefore, Mr. President...
We must act now before there is no peaceful way left to preserve our nation.
Exactly.
Why the CHICOMs and the UN do this?
Because even if Trump removes the fraud, there'll be a civil war.
If he goes through the fraudulent system.
It's CHICOM attack.
He has to arrest the heads of the media.
He has to arrest them.
They're all Chinese agents.
They have all the proof.
And we have to just go after them and have Nuremberg trials.
I mean, this is on the tip of takeover.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Okay, so I guess we've got to arrest the heads of the media.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is sounding familiar.
jordan holmes
If I understand correctly, even if Trump uses the system to root out the corruption, there's going to be a civil war.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
However, if Trump instantly and...
Extemporaneously arrests all the heads of the media, takes care of all of the generals that he doesn't like, removes everybody in government, dissolves the Senate.
No civil war.
dan friesen
Well, it dissolves the House, at least.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, at least, yeah.
I mean, the Senate for now is fine.
We'll keep that one in the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's strange.
jordan holmes
So that one wouldn't start a civil war, is what you're saying to me.
dan friesen
Here's, I mean, it's obviously a veiled threat.
jordan holmes
Yes, I'm pretty sure it's very much a you give us Trump or we kill all of you as a threat.
dan friesen
That's more or less.
jordan holmes
Why are we even acting like he's calling for a new election?
He said give us Trump or we kill you.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
There is a circumstance wherein the new election would be acceptable.
Now, a new election just on these same voting machines owned by China.
Right.
No.
We can't have a new election because that'll just get stolen too.
jordan holmes
Okay, what about paper ballots?
dan friesen
Great.
They have to be counted by Trump family members.
jordan holmes
I'm starting to feel like you guys want this to be in your favor.
Was gerrymandering not enough for you?
dan friesen
Apparently not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well.
dan friesen
Also, it is really funny.
Linwood and Sidney Powell have their press conference on the second day of this, I believe, on December 2nd.
And maybe it was on the first.
I can't remember what day it was.
But they are like, yeah, and we're not going to participate in this Georgia election.
jordan holmes
Don't vote!
unidentified
Don't vote!
jordan holmes
Don't do it!
I guarantee it.
I think it's a terrible idea.
dan friesen
I love that.
jordan holmes
And Trump, I wish you had the balls to veto that defense bill.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't have any take on that stuff.
Although I thought that would be the most interesting.
Sidney Powell and Lin Wood telling people not to vote in the Georgia runoff.
jordan holmes
I'm all for it.
dan friesen
It's going to give a very significant advantage to the Democratic candidates.
jordan holmes
Yes, please.
This is what I've been waiting for the whole time.
We can't be cooed and taken over by the dumbest people on the planet.
They need to dumb it up so much we don't even have to work for it, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm very interested in that.
And then also I would be very interested in Alex's take on Trump's threatening to veto the NBAA.
Oh, yeah.
Because that has to do with the 230.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Because Alex should hate...
The NDAA.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because he does.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So he should be in favor of Trump vetoing that.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But he also wants to get back on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Well!
unidentified
It's such a complicated position.
jordan holmes
He's finally forced into the most nuanced position of his career, and he's reacting the way we all knew he would, pretending it's not happening.
dan friesen
Let me go ahead and gamble he forgets he doesn't like the NDAA.
jordan holmes
It's weird.
It's weird how he won't remember that very shortly.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he does remember.
That he paid people a lot of money to dig up this story about China and Dominion.
alex jones
If this goes out, this is the total proof, hiding in plain view, and we have put it out for you and hired the big investigative team to dig through all this.
And they tried to hide it, but they failed.
They tried to hide the subsidiary names and subgroups, but we tracked it all back, and we have it now.
Separately, going to break in just a few seconds.
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dan friesen
Alright, man.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think he's got a good point.
I think you can only own one business.
The end.
None of this UBS...
Subgroups?
None of this is Steel and Staples and UBS Company Limited and UBS owns 25%.
No.
One business per.
dan friesen
I don't think you have any idea how complicated it is to have...
jordan holmes
Nope.
One business per.
dan friesen
Alright.
I mean, I do sometimes forget that you have a degree in small business administration.
jordan holmes
I do.
One business per.
Not just that.
dan friesen
Got to say, Jordan.
Very dumb.
unidentified
Not just that.
jordan holmes
Everyone gets one.
dan friesen
I understand that corporate structures are confusing and sometimes a bit complicated.
Particularly to the untrained eye.
jordan holmes
Simplify it.
dan friesen
By making it impossible to work.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Good.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
That was my idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So in this next clip, Alex continues to bring up this Dominion employee who's been getting lots of threats.
And I would say this is a bad idea.
But at least he's not saying his name or anything.
alex jones
I'm going to come back and recap the top news and then show you footage.
A Dominion worker reportedly caught manipulating voter data.
What they did was illegal on tape.
We actually know who he is.
We're not going to release his name yet, but we've got the intel, and so do our people.
But this is incredible.
This will not stand, Globalist.
You've been caught.
We do not accept your fraudulent leader, your CHICOM agent, Joe Biden.
You're on notice.
dan friesen
Remarkable restraint on Alex's part not saying this person's name.
Yeah.
because, you know, I mean, that's kind of a big part of what's gotten him in trouble in the past, which is, you know, leading and amplifying kind of campaigns that seek to harass, threaten, intimidate protesters Yeah, I think it's so weird how willing he is to go after individual people.
jordan holmes
How weird...
dan friesen
I think that's the only way he can really assert power.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
dan friesen
I don't think anybody else is scared of him.
Right, that's fair.
James Oliphantus, the guy who owned Comet Ping Pong, was ready to take him to court.
Alex backed down hard when those people were like, no, fuck you.
People like David Rothschild.
He showed up on Alex's show and talked to him for like half an hour.
Bill Ayers showed up and was like, what are you talking about?
Like, these people aren't afraid of him.
You know who is?
Someone who could be hurt.
unidentified
But, like I said, man, there's pathos.
dan friesen
There's pathos.
Because you can really tell that Alex loves telling this story about how Trump's people told him to get to the bottom of this Dominion thing.
It's so sad when you know what's up, and this is just a conspiracy from QAnon boards.
God, this is so sad.
alex jones
We are living in the most incredible time in world history on so many fronts.
I got a call from the president's representative.
And they asked me three weeks ago, when I was in Arizona, let's just say one of Trump's sons gave me a call.
And he put me in touch with an executive with a major voting machine company.
I'm going to leave it at that.
And they said, look, we know Soros, the Chinese, are involved.
We want you to investigate it, and we want you to separately bring it out.
And I said, well, if you know it, why do I have to find it?
And they said, look.
I said, oh, because it's classified, and I've got to find it myself.
They said, we're not saying that.
Well, I got a call two days ago from a security firm I hired that were former Army internal security researchers, so they're good researchers, and they ferreted it out and found that 75-plus percent I
dan friesen
just can't get over how pathetic this is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is like a school kid.
Bragging about, like, their dad being Superman.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like, the president will all just say, I'll leave it at, one of his sons called me and said, you gotta get, ooh, is it because it's classified?
alex jones
We're not saying that.
dan friesen
Because it's not.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's SEC filings.
jordan holmes
It's a little bit like, um...
Like a con man.
dan friesen
It's very much like that.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, he is a con man.
But this particular one reminds me of the old ones where it's somebody with a vaguely European accent who's talking to the New York Stock Exchange people like, Yes, I'm a representative of King Harold.
He's trying to keep it all secret.
Very, very secret, of course.
But if you loan me one million dollars, I'll be able to...
And if you know that the king is...
You're like...
You're a fucking lunatic, man!
If you're not pulling it off, you look like an insane person.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah, and simultaneously, I can see this, and he is not pulling it off.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But there's probably enough people...
Who are just dumb, or just captured by him, and think that he means a goddamn word he says.
And that's really sad.
It's really sad for them, and it's really sad for Alex.
Yeah.
It really is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just on a human level, that he's a 40-something-year-old man, 46, 47-year-old man, who's in his studio bragging complete...
Bullshit lies about the president's son telling him to do this investigation that he just saw on a QAnon board.
jordan holmes
Well, when you put it in that context, it sounds bad.
dan friesen
It is.
Anyway, it's also, like, this is just, it's painful to me.
Like, I had a really tough time with the first half of this December 1st episode because it is this.
This dude is just a sad mope.
alex jones
This is one trillion percent.
The smoking gun.
And then it just gets worse from there.
The communist Chinese wired, through a secretive Swiss bank account, $400 million to Dominion on October 7th.
I mean, wow.
I suggest you go get these documents.
I suggest you get them out.
And I don't normally say sources and things like that.
But, you know, I want you to know how real this is, okay?
dan friesen
It's just a bummer.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the other thing that's really sad about this is, like, if you really look at it from a professional perspective, Alex is...
Reduced to taking something from QAnon circles, pretending it's not that, and then just trying to resell it.
Anybody who's engaged in those QAnon communities would see this and be like, oh, we already knew that.
We knew this days before your article came out.
This is old news to real conspiracy heads.
He's trailing behind the thing that he thinks is a ripoff of himself, and it's just...
Man, you should quit.
You should just quit.
jordan holmes
Shakespeare were alive today.
It's not good.
Me think she does protest too much would be like, Jesus fucking Christ, stop protesting!
It's too obvious!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Now, I would say that Alex has been a little bit out of line with talking about this Dominion employee, but I will say, up till this point, he hasn't really been trying to, like, intimidate the guy.
jordan holmes
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Until now.
alex jones
But here's video.
We know who the guy is.
We tracked him.
Democrat operative.
We know where he worked.
McDonald's and GameStop before this.
We've not released his photo or his name yet.
Javier.
But we have the footage of him in the key county illegally, whether he knew it or not, going up with a thumb drive, taking it out.
dan friesen
That's pretty much a...
That's really fucked up.
That's really fucked up, because you could also tell how much Alex kind of relished that moment where he feels like he's threatening somebody.
jordan holmes
Javier, I know you.
Anytime I can drop it on you.
dan friesen
But at least there's a lot of Javier's in the world, so at least he didn't say his name.
alex jones
Palming the USB and waddling out, and we've got his name, Javier Corey, as we told you.
I wasn't going to break it myself, let Gateway Pundit do it.
Stay in attack formation.
dan friesen
Oops.
Well, I hope this does not come back to bite you in the ass and you don't get sued.
jordan holmes
I hope it does, and he should be sued immediately.
And even if nothing happens, the judge should look at his other lawsuits and be like, see, this is what you're trying to do.
dan friesen
I know it.
jordan holmes
I can see it in your eyes.
You're trying to do this.
dan friesen
This is a clear pattern of behavior.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
This is the same shit, and we're going to stop you before you kill this guy.
Hooray!
dan friesen
Or this kind of behavior happening a couple days ago.
Could be inserted as part of the Sandy Hook trial as a piece of information.
He is not stopping behaving in ways that are tailored to raising the possibility of harm coming to private citizens.
I guess I do kind of understand.
He's an asshole.
jordan holmes
He's just not, yeah.
dan friesen
He's just an asshole.
jordan holmes
I mean, it shouldn't work like, oh, okay, so you've just told me what the exact line is, so what I'm going to do is tiptoe up to as close to the line as possible, and then wave my hands at you and be like, nah, nah, you can't catch me, I didn't kill this guy this time.
dan friesen
Your Honor, this is completely different because it's about a different thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Same behavior about a different thing.
Ugh, whatever.
jordan holmes
What a fucking asshole.
dan friesen
So now, Jordan, like I said, there's a little- There was a lot of pathos at the beginning part, and I was kind of bummed out about it.
And there was a part of me that felt like, well, this is interesting because it is pathetic, and there's an interesting glimpse of Alex trying to put on his sort of Superman jumper and try and play the role of what he thinks he is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Daddy turned me into a detective, so I found everything.
dan friesen
And I was like, oh, that's interesting, but that's not great.
I need more from this episode.
And thankfully...
Another someone who might be a daddy to Alex shows up, and that is our boy, Steve Pachanek.
jordan holmes
Dr. Steve.
steve pieczenik
Let me remind you that a couple of weeks ago and several months ago, I told you that I was told by my fellow countrymen in Cyber Command that I was to announce on your show, Owen Shroyer's show, that we had put a QFS...
We had watermarks on all the ballots, we had monitored all the machines on Dominion, and we had expected everything to come out, and it came out of cyber control.
jordan holmes
Where's David Knight at?
steve pieczenik
I don't have the same fear factor that you have, but I do respect...
jordan holmes
David, are you in the building?
dan friesen
He's not happy about it, I have to imagine.
Yeah, Steve's still on this team.
jordan holmes
Still on it, huh?
dan friesen
And Alex is still having him on.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Which is weird, because again, this is...
A direct contradiction of literally every other talking point that Alex is spouting.
Now, Steve is not only contradicting Alex in terms of like, no, this was a sting operation this entire election.
He also is not thrilled with the idea that Alex is like, hey, maybe we should have martial law.
Steve's like, no.
steve pieczenik
We don't need martial law.
What we have in effect now.
Is we have prepared the sting operation, which I announced here on Alex Jones because I was given that permission.
dan friesen
He's given the permission.
unidentified
It's cool.
dan friesen
So yeah, man.
I mean, look.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm never going to be like, hey, I have common cause with Steve Pachanek.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I do find it comforting on some level that he's not saying we need martial law.
jordan holmes
But he's also said we should dissolve the government and Melania should be queen.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's why I don't want common causes.
jordan holmes
I would like some clarity coming from Dr. Steve, alright?
He's who I go to when I'm looking for sanity in this InfoWorlds world.
dan friesen
When you need a North Star.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That's what I'm all about!
dan friesen
Well, unfortunately, Alex decides that this is the time when he's going to be like, yeah, I don't know.
alex jones
Some people say you're making this up.
You're full of it.
Let me just say, you know, OK, and I think you're a credible person.
I respect you.
dan friesen
That clip is essentially Alex trying to play both sides of the fence.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Now, David says you're full of shit, and I still want to talk to you, so...
dan friesen
Well, I think it's even less that and more just like if anybody in the audience were to attack him from either side, he can cover his base with a clip like that.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
He can say that some people say that you're full of it.
That's me being a hard-hitting journalist and pushing back on you.
Then if someone is into Steve's theories, he'd be like, I said that he has a great track record and that goes a long way with me.
Yeah, he's just being mealy-mouthed here.
Anyway, Steve's talking about the situation we find ourselves in.
The ballots are all accounted for in barcodes or whatever the fuck.
And also, some generals have sent troops all over the country, and the Supreme Court needs to be taken out.
alex jones
Okay.
steve pieczenik
I can tell you that Nakasone has been running a very effective monitoring system, and that we have deployed military elements all over the country.
I can tell you that in North Florida, the amount of planes that have come in with war equipment, with regular Army, National Guard, and others, has increased markedly.
I can tell you that at the same time, John Roberts of the Supreme Court may have a problem.
He is a sick man.
He's had a history of seizures.
We know that his interpretation...
Of corruption is what we call the minimalist quid pro quo corruption.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
Sure, that is what we call the minimalist quid pro quo corruption.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
Cool, cool.
dan friesen
You're talking about...
Sort of, you know, the inefficiency.
Like, A, he's unqualified, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
Meanwhile, we got General Nakasone coming in and bringing an army into Florida.
Tomorrow we march on Florida.
unidentified
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
I never know which of their plans I would be interested in letting play out.
dan friesen
Not that one.
jordan holmes
Not that one.
unidentified
But sometimes they'll have, like, a...
jordan holmes
All of their plans are like a Jimmy Plinko board and then they just drop something down.
dan friesen
Caravan.
Is a plan.
I'm glad they followed through.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And I will say that by the end of this episode, I have another one that I fucking hope Alex follows through with.
It will be my next, like...
jordan holmes
Caravanity project.
dan friesen
It will...
If Alex does this, I might livestream for days straight of just, like, we need updates on what's going on with this.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
It's one of the most exciting things.
You know what?
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Unprecedented.
dan friesen
If Alex follows through with what he claims he's going to do later in this episode, I might join him.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
For different reasons.
jordan holmes
That's a tease because I don't know what he's going to talk about.
Don't worry about it.
We'll figure it out.
dan friesen
All right.
Well, we'll talk about this later in the episode.
jordan holmes
We'll get you in a bubble.
A literal bubble boy situation.
dan friesen
So earlier you said, by the way, I hate to be a tease.
This will all be revealed within this episode.
Earlier, you were mentioning that the way that Alex was talking about him being told to do this Dominion investigation sounds Steve-ish.
And because Steve is still on the election was a sting operation, why would then the government ask Alex to...
jordan holmes
The left hand can't know what the right hand's doing, Dan.
dan friesen
This is a problem for Alex, though, especially in terms of presentation.
jordan holmes
That is an issue.
dan friesen
He needs to ask Steve, help me out of this one, guy.
Come on, buddy.
alex jones
If Congress doesn't stand up, if the electors on December 15th, Dr. Steve Pachenik, don't say no to this fraud, then they will put Biden in and Trump says he'll go.
So if there is these watermarks and all this proof, and I believe you talked to those sources who told you, so I believe you're in good faith, I think you're a good person.
When do we see the cards on the table?
What's about to happen?
Like, why would the White House...
See, to me, this doesn't mean I'm important.
It means the president's quadriplegic politically cut off.
Why would they get me?
To go after Soros and the Chai Koms.
jordan holmes
That is a good question.
alex jones
We get the smoking gun documents, but it takes us two and a half weeks to get it.
Why?
I mean, if they have this, why?
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Because it doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
It's a great question.
Why would they do that?
dan friesen
Some would say it's an unanswerable question.
jordan holmes
I would say that it's very simple.
They wouldn't.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
No, but Steve can't say that.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, that's a bad idea.
dan friesen
No, because in order for their illusions to continue...
That the audience needs to buy into to keep the cash flow going.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Steve needs to not be a complete liar, and Alex needs to not be shown to have not talked to the White House about this QAnon post that he's passing off as a scoop.
jordan holmes
Everybody's in a little bit of a dangerous position right now.
dan friesen
Right, but there is a really smooth way to get out of this pickle, and that is...
jordan holmes
Leo Zagami.
dan friesen
No, Steve's just gotta do exactly what he always does when things get tough.
steve pieczenik
I appreciate the fact that you're getting very excited, but the reality is the game has already been played.
What's happening is that Trump anticipated most of this.
Trump actually and the intelligence community really picked you as the source for which I was to announce what they wanted me to announce.
And I'm not just a certain person or stooge because I don't get paid.
I'm really not interested in promotion.
I really don't garner anything other than being a citizen warrior and chosen as the mainstream media as opposed to the New York Times, The Post.
So although you're getting excited, what is happening all around you, Alex, is exactly what we expected.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, you know, when you're encountered with this unanswerable question, where the only logical, rational, real-world explanation is you're both...
You know, you get out of that by being like, Alex, calm down.
You were chosen because you're so great.
jordan holmes
You're the best.
You're the best there ever was, buddy.
Look at these compliments and don't look at me.
dan friesen
That's a very easy way to get out of the conversation.
And also, you know, then Steve can transition into other topics, like how Biden will never be president.
Sure.
steve pieczenik
I will guarantee you Biden will not become president of the United States because right now he's wearing possibly an ankle bracelet because he said...
He has a little bit of a problem on his ankle, and he's twisted his ankle.
I don't believe that's so.
You might look at that problem.
So, in effect, what you're seeing now...
alex jones
Now, that sounds like Q stuff.
He's got an ankle bracelet.
I mean, I hope so.
I hope he gets a different type of bracelet, but...
roger stone
Look, I...
steve pieczenik
I can't get excited the way you can, Alex.
That's the reason why I come on.
I mean, this is not unusual for me.
We said it a long time ago.
alex jones
Well, I want to believe you.
So in 50 days, let me tell you this, buddy.
I am going to, I'm just going to, if you're right in 50 days, you are going to be the king of the planet to me.
I already really like you.
You've given me great info over the years.
You've been on the show for 19 years.
It's been really accurate info.
So I just hope you're right.
dan friesen
That is what it sounds like when someone doesn't believe someone.
jordan holmes
Fuck you, Alex.
Fuck you.
That's not fair.
dan friesen
Get this dude off your show.
jordan holmes
Not just that, but how dare you say that sounds like Q shit 20 minutes after you said Q shit.
dan friesen
A bunch of it.
jordan holmes
You fucking...
dan friesen
You're being very fast and loose with private citizen safety, and you're pitching a nonsensical, stupid voter fraud conspiracy based on...
unidentified
And you're saying his QAnon bullshit is stupid.
jordan holmes
That's unfair.
dan friesen
That's just rude.
Well, you gotta make it look good.
That's rude.
Anyway, Steve is a pro.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
When Alex says, this sounds like QAnon stuff, he's like, hey man, I can't get excited like you get excited.
I don't know what that means.
But Steve's gotta make it like, no, dude, you're so important.
alex jones
You're so important.
dan friesen
Every time Alex is getting a little bit out of pocket.
alex jones
I think you might be full of shit.
jordan holmes
You're a good looking dude.
I think you're great.
dan friesen
Yeah, you know, I was wrong.
jordan holmes
I should never have doubted you.
steve pieczenik
Because of your show and that video that I did with you, it was sent to China.
And believe it or not, I got a call from what I call my Chinese nanny, who's been my control officer in China for the past 30 years.
That means President Xi and the Public Bureau of Safety in China personally had to call me up three weeks ago because of the show that I went on, on your show, Alex.
To explain that they are not looking for any trouble to say that it was an excellent show, meaning that they don't want to get into a problem situation.
unidentified
Steve went on in for worse.
jordan holmes
Do not.
dan friesen
And President Xi called and was like, hey man, we don't want trouble?
jordan holmes
We don't want no trouble?
dan friesen
Steve.
jordan holmes
I do not know what I'm listening to.
I do not know what's actually happening right now.
That's absurd.
Alex being like, oh, Trump personally sent me on a message to investigate shit that I made up and I'm creating this whole fictional mythology around how I'm great.
And then...
Steve coming with that bullshit at me?
Are we talking?
What am I watching?
dan friesen
Well, look, I think Steve knows that we exist, and I think he knows that in order to be interesting...
unidentified
In order to make it on our show, he's got to come with it.
dan friesen
If you want to make the after show, your character needs to be interesting.
jordan holmes
It's got to be good, yeah.
Especially if you're only on for short bursts.
dan friesen
You don't want to be the character who doesn't get a rose, so to speak.
unidentified
And Steve, he gets a rose.
dan friesen
He is also somebody who unfortunately runs the risk of being pretty boring pretty easily because he's made so many deep cuts in the past.
jordan holmes
His escalation has to be...
unidentified
It has to be...
President Xi called because he wanted to make sure, based on my appearance on Infowars.
jordan holmes
No problems here, guys.
Just want to give you a call, say you got the go-ahead, and everything's okay.
dan friesen
Xi wants to parlay.
jordan holmes
Hey, guys.
We just want you to say, stay frosty out there.
You keep going.
dan friesen
Xi wants me to work as an intermediary between Alex Jones and China.
jordan holmes
And again, just inexplicable and pointless little bit of racism there.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, Alex...
He's having this interview with Steve, and he's also like, I gotta go.
I gotta leave early.
alex jones
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not gonna be playing hooky in the next two hours when Paul Joseph Watson has Candace Owens, an amazing guest on.
jordan holmes
Boo!
alex jones
I'm so busy with breaking news and documents and intel that I have to go off air.
And tomorrow we'll have giant breaking news here for you on air with the information I'm gonna be getting, but it's so huge.
I'm going to have to go off air in about ten minutes.
dan friesen
It's not.
There's nothing big going on at all.
I would probably make myself scarce if the team-up is going to be Paul Joseph Watson and Candace Owens.
It's been my feeling that she's not thrilled with being associated with InfoWars actively.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because I think that she thought that there was a bigger space for her, like with Turning Point.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Charlie Kirk is never coming on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
You know, but I think, I don't know.
I haven't tracked her career as closely, but it seems like she's back in the place where she would be on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, she thought she could get out into a bigger pond, and now she's back in the small InfoWars pond.
dan friesen
But still be with Paul.
As opposed to be with Alex.
If you're going to do it, go with Paul.
It somehow seems safer for your reputation.
So Alex is going to leave early because he's got to pretend to work.
Whatever.
Steve has one more big swing to make.
I love this one.
I was like, what the fuck?
steve pieczenik
So I'm telling you, Beijing called me directly because of the show that you're doing right now.
And we wanted to use you as the main thoroughfare for that announcement.
The last part that you have to know is that, ironically, one of my neighbors in northern Florida increased the fencing and the size of Gitmo by 200%.
In other words, I have a neighbor who's in charge of...
Wire and fencing for prisons.
And he went to Gitmo a year ago and increased the size of Gitmo, Guantanamo Bay, by over 100%.
dan friesen
Shouldn't you be against that?
jordan holmes
Is he trying to say that's because Obama's taller than the other prisoners have been in the past?
Is that what we're trying to say?
dan friesen
Yeah, the globalists that you're gonna incarcerate in Guantanamo in your fantasies, the issue with them and the safety there is wall size.
Yeah, wall size.
This is silly.
But what he's talking about is there were reports of Trump building new construction at Guantanamo, whereas prior to this, the tendency and the trend had been towards closing it.
So I think he's just trying to use some of those ideas which are super popular in the QAnon world.
I think Steve is really just like, at this point...
jordan holmes
He's just a Q guy.
dan friesen
And so is Alex, quite frankly.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
So, like, such champions of weirdness becoming followers.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sad.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is something to be said about Q's ability as a mental disease to infect, I mean, everybody, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It just gets fucking in your head.
dan friesen
You're not immune if you're a conspiracy leader.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can fall.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean...
dan friesen
These people who are leaders are smart enough to not say this is what they're into.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
They know that they can take the ideas and the sort of trends in the conspiracy world and then reorient them a little bit into being about like...
My friend general has told me the same thing.
Oh, yeah, sure.
Yeah, Q is saying that stuff, but that's just because it's parallel.
It's the same thing.
I'm just getting it from a real source, whereas...
Wait.
jordan holmes
I imagine that it feels a little bit like stock speculating to be one of these conspiracy people dealing with Q, trying to be like, okay, well, I think this is one of the theories that's going to stick.
And if I get on this one, then I'll get more whenever it goes mainstream, whereas...
dan friesen
It may be stock speculating, but it's also there's no consequences for being wrong.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but that's fair.
dan friesen
People just forget.
jordan holmes
Nobody just loses all their...
dan friesen
It would be like the stock market if whenever the stock went down, people forgot you bought it.
jordan holmes
Every day.
Every day, a clean slate.
dan friesen
So Alex says goodbye to Steve, and this is not how you...
Part ways with someone who you think is credible.
alex jones
God bless you.
We'll talk to you soon.
StevePachinnick.com.
Have a great week coming up.
steve pieczenik
You too.
alex jones
All right.
Man, I hope he's right.
dan friesen
You shouldn't have to hope he's right.
jordan holmes
I have the best guests.
I have the best people.
And, man.
I hope that bullshit he just spun makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, it sounds good.
Probably bullshit.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we jump into the second, and Alex starting the show really just sort of ruminating about himself as a child.
steve pieczenik
Sure.
dan friesen
And talking about things that are absolutely not true.
alex jones
When I was six years old, seven years old, I liked to watch PBS Frontline.
I like to watch the long Supreme Court debates, the few that they ever televised.
I really found how things actually work is incredibly interesting.
But then I learned that almost no one else actually wants to study how things work.
dan friesen
When Alex was six years old, he was so advanced, Jordan, you understand, that he was watching full...
Unedited, C-SPAN, Supreme Court.
jordan holmes
Loves it.
steve pieczenik
Hearings.
dan friesen
Hearings, because he was so fascinated, but as he got older, he realized no one was as serious as him.
jordan holmes
Let me posit you an alternate theory.
When he found out how hard it was to actually do research, he decided that what he did was actual research and what everybody else did was crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, at a certain point, he realized it's really tough to read a book.
jordan holmes
It's hard!
dan friesen
To a third person, or to somebody else, to an external observer, there is no difference between you having read the book and you saying you read the book.
jordan holmes
That sounds true!
dan friesen
Yes.
That is quite a revelation to have at the age of six, and I applaud Alex for it.
jordan holmes
When I was six years old, I realized that if I put Infinite Jest on my bookshelf, people will think I was smart.
dan friesen
I did that myself.
With the same book.
Alex, goddammit.
I was so excited at this point on the second.
I could have...
I almost couldn't contain myself.
Because I don't know if you remember this, but I think it was a 2015 episode.
Alex got on air and he was like, I am going to, in this episode, jump the shark.
jordan holmes
Yes, I do recall that.
dan friesen
I am going to, as a piece of art, performance art...
Call for the banning of Islam.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And then he proceeded to talk himself into not doing it as a performance art.
jordan holmes
It's a good idea to ban Islam.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But what he set out to do was like this thing that he was being overly clear about his intentions.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Which kind of ruined the sort of satirical thrust of it.
But it was like, I love to see that you had an idea and you wanted to try.
jordan holmes
Right.
I got that again.
Inadvertently, he made our satirical piece work by trying to do a satirical piece and then winding up embodying the thing that he thought he was satirizing.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was interesting on that level.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I guess it's the same this time.
alex jones
Now, I thought about the best way to say this, but I'm just going to get it right out there.
I think it will be more effective to wake you up if I actually join the dark side.
unidentified
Do it.
alex jones
I am seriously considering completely shifting into the enemy mindset and presenting all this and just telling people world government's good and that you should kill yourselves for the earth.
dan friesen
I mean, like, I would love it if he did, as a joke.
Just did, like, a Bill Gates is great, because it would be the most incompetent, nonsensical piece of satire or sort of character-based nonsense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would love it.
It would be a thrill.
jordan holmes
One, it has to be a surprise.
Nobody can know you're about to do it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Two, you have to commit to the bit.
You have to open by saying something like that.
You have to stay solid.
You can't break character, and you have to go for a good long while.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But I was like, oh, maybe...
jordan holmes
And he can't do any of those things?
dan friesen
No, but he's saying, like, I've just been thinking about this.
I gotta go to the dark side and be like the globalists.
And then he started to get real fucking dark.
Like, to a point where, like, you are being what I would consider quite to the dark side.
alex jones
The public cares.
Good people care.
Christians care.
That's the main group that's resisting.
Let's see it.
But everyone else is running headlong into it and wanting to be slaves, wanting to be slowly killed, wanting to be made unhappy, wanting to be failures, because they are not meant to go into the future.
They are meant to die.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
And that's God's plan.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Wait, so are you telling me that the evil enemy that you hate has come to the conclusion that humans aren't worth living and has decided to kill all of us, and you think that that's evil, however you agree that humans aren't worth living and God is...
dan friesen
Well, yeah, and his sort of evidence for this, that he's basing it on, is that it seems like only Christians are interested in fighting the...
Christian zealotry war, the crusade that he's imagining.
jordan holmes
It seems odd that this Christian crusade is only backed by Christians.
Right.
dan friesen
And so that's strange to him, and it's proof that everyone else is meant to die in God's plan.
I think that that's really fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think he went from I think I'm gonna join the dark side to I think I am the dark side very quickly without seeming to realize that he was doing it.
dan friesen
No, and that is not him being like performance-y and on the dark side because his version of...
Performance of the dark side would be like, you should get a vaccine.
jordan holmes
You should get, ooh, put this in your body.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It wouldn't be all non-Christians seem like they're destined for death and that's just God's plan.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Isn't he the guy who says that Islam is violent?
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Cool.
I do think that at any point maybe I was being hyperbolic when I said the GOP is ISIS, but Dan, woof, this is ISIS.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex is a ways down that road, at least in terms of ideology and thought.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And hopes.
jordan holmes
And let's hope not deeds.
dan friesen
Now, this was interesting to me, because that's kind of it for this thing that he was intending to do.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
He had this great idea of performatively becoming the dark side, and then he immediately said something incredibly dark and did embody what I would think is...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
100%.
dan friesen
To a dark side.
But now that he's done with that, Alex tells a story that I think does not make the point that he wants it to make.
I think that he sounds like an asshole in this story.
alex jones
They're in fantasy land.
They're losers.
They're not the resistance.
They're the establishment.
And they're...
I mean, I had this guy this weekend.
Sunday, I went for a walk.
Down at Zilker Park, and I'm walking along the creek there, the dumpster of the Colorado River, and I see this guy, you know, about 25, kind of the academic-type antifa, and he's got his beard and everything.
jordan holmes
Academic-type antifa.
alex jones
And he's wearing a black top, black pants, but no antifa stuff I could see, but I could tell.
I could see how he was looking at me.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
He looks, and then he starts walking towards me at an angle like he's going to hit me, like he's going to do something.
And so as he starts coming towards me, menacing, I just couldn't help it.
I just instinctively started walking over, and I was getting ready to just drive his ass to the ground.
If he was stupid, I'd take a swing.
It was just instinctive that I started, like a magnet, coming to him, and I was going to knock his ass down on that ground hard.
And at the last minute, he kind of went like that and then looked scared.
It's like, yeah, dude, this isn't fantasy world.
This isn't LARPing.
You're about to get hurt bad.
dan friesen
It sounds like Alex just threatened a guy randomly that he imagined wished him ill and was academic Antifa types.
jordan holmes
This is...
dan friesen
Scary.
jordan holmes
So let me see if I can get the details of this story correctly.
And I'm going to do this from the point of a neutral observer.
Right.
So I'm in a different angle.
dan friesen
Maybe you're a bird watcher.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Just hanging out, not doing much.
I see Alex.
I see Alex Jones over there just shaking because he's Alex.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Just visibly just vibrating.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then I see a guy over there, probably a little waifish wearing glasses.
dan friesen
Beard.
jordan holmes
He's got a black shirt on.
He's got black shorts on.
dan friesen
Bookish Antifa type.
jordan holmes
And then he just starts walking away.
And then Alex Jones, visibly shaking, starts walking directly towards him and almost throws a fist at him.
And I'm supposed to think...
Oh, well, it's the Antifa guy's fault.
dan friesen
Well, at the last minute, the Antifa guy looked like he was about to get hit by somebody.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And then all of a sudden, he's so subservient.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's so scared of the clear, threatening vibe I was giving off.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna go with Alex Jones suddenly running towards me on a day where I was just reading at the park.
He's gonna make me go away.
dan friesen
In that story, I don't hear any clear indication that Alex's violence was in response.
to any real violence or threateningness of this person who is just on the trail and Alex has decided because they're wearing black and have a beard are academic Antifa.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Whatever the fuck that means.
Alex seems like he's a threat to people.
jordan holmes
It does seem like what he just said was if I feel a bad vibe I will kill someone.
dan friesen
If you're wearing black you're probably Antifa and I might fucking hit you.
jordan holmes
I might just fucking haul off and beat the shit out of you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And if you act like it's weird that I'm about to hit you, or maybe you duck and cower, then I'm gonna be like, why are you emotionally manipulating me?
Yeah, why are you acting like someone's about to hit you if you were about to hit me?
unidentified
Jeez.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has a lot of fantasies.
One is that academic Antifa is trying to get him on the trail.
Another is that in the near future, his books...
I guess he's written a couple books.
Sort of.
Anyway, his show will be Contraband.
alex jones
And you can record this, and you can save this, and in that dystopic future, you won't be able to find it on the cloud or online.
You'll have to have Contraband old devices that your smart devices will refuse to even allow to be plugged in.
You'll have to go through a lot of hoops to even have this saved.
So I would suggest you transcribe it.
And in the future, you'll have to hide it.
In the near future.
dan friesen
In the near future.
I would love it for Alex to go to Europe and see wall sockets and be like, It's happened already!
unidentified
No!
No!
jordan holmes
Is this AC or DC?
unidentified
Nothing means anything anymore!
Dumb, dumb.
dan friesen
Anyway, in this next clip, the only thing I would say about that last thing is just like, this is just such a desire to be forbidden or whatever.
He's just so into that idea.
I think it's probably from one too many bad sci-fi novels.
Yeah.
So we talk a lot about Alex's bizarre morality.
This idea of sort of galactic rules.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And stuff.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Mic down for this next clip because he talks about it a little bit more.
And this is something I really need your help with.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because this is another clue about how this moral system works.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
But it doesn't make sense.
alex jones
You're not injected with one microchip.
You're injected with hundreds of little tiny ones that all have the same amount of data on them that a chip 10 years ago had.
And you're saying, why don't they just spray it out of helicopters or out of planes and then we ingest it and breathe it?
Metaphysically, they're not allowed to do that.
Historically.
They have to get you under pressure to do it.
They've got to leave a way out for you on a skate patch.
But they need to force you to do it.
It's a push.
But then it becomes a shove once God removes the barrier hedge.
And then, yes, they will put it in your water, put it in your food, put it everywhere.
dan friesen
So, God has a barrier hedge to this sort of free will thing.
The devil, once God says, eh, go ahead, then the devil can go ahead and just mess with your free will.
And that's why there's chemtrails, I guess.
Because God is like, yeah, that hedge is gone.
Fuck it, who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think if I understand...
dan friesen
Because Alex does believe in chemtrails.
jordan holmes
Yes, he does.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
But you can't spray things randomly.
No, no, no.
Targeted.
dan friesen
God removed that hedge already.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
So I think, if I understand correctly, I think what he's saying is that the devil...
The literal Christian devil, which is real and is running Biden's campaign still somehow.
dan friesen
And might have called Steve.
jordan holmes
Yes, and might have called Steve.
dan friesen
China called and so did the devil.
Both.
Steve got two phone calls.
jordan holmes
Oh, the devil said he wasn't doing well.
So he can push you, right?
And God will stop him from going too far unless you've given a little bit of like a, hey, maybe I'll go along with the devil, and then God will remove that final ring of protection, and then you will be thrown into the abyss.
dan friesen
I don't think that's what he's saying.
I think that, I don't know if, I don't, I'm not certain based on the things that I've heard that this hedge of protection that God has.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm not certain that that relies on your choice.
jordan holmes
It has to, because you have to have the way out.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And you have to be able to...
So you have to choose the devil.
dan friesen
But how do chemtrails work, then?
jordan holmes
Well, you chose to look up.
dan friesen
But it doesn't matter if I look up.
According to them, you're breathing in all these aluminums and whatever the fuck in the air.
That is something that you can't escape.
You did not make any choice.
That is something that is completely above your will.
You did not agree to that.
Therefore, it's an infringement of your will.
jordan holmes
But it hasn't been primed yet.
It's just like a bomb without a timer.
You've just got all the stuff in you, and then you have to believe something, and then they'll activate it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I can't imagine that.
jordan holmes
I'm struggling.
This makes less than zero sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't understand this new wrinkle to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't like it.
dan friesen
But there's another wrinkle, and that is that...
unidentified
So soon?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
And that is that you can't do things to kids.
But I think from the context of this, Alex is talking about vaccines.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
Now, the real ultimate sin here is though they target children before they are of age to make the discernment.
And so that's why the Satanists are so cursed is they cheat and they lie to themselves.
jordan holmes
Why can they cheat then?
alex jones
And they break the metaphysical rule that they are not allowed to hurt innocents.
They're only allowed to get adults to not support themselves.
And to make a bad decision to receive the spiritual interdimensional transmission from Satan.
So it's real simple.
It's real simple.
They like it.
unidentified
They like it.
dan friesen
It's real simple.
They like the Satan channel.
jordan holmes
I want a ruler and I want somebody to slap his hands whenever he's like, they can cheat.
No, you said they can't cheat.
dan friesen
But that's why they're cursed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you said they can't cheat.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
I mean, if they're already cursed, then why would they just continue cheating?
There's no greater punishment after hell, right?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So if you've already cheated, why would you then be like, well, we still have to follow the rules of chemtrails?
dan friesen
If you cheat, you're cursed, but you're not going to hell.
What?
You're cursed.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Oh, well, then I guess I retract all of my arguments.
dan friesen
That makes you smile weird, and Alex can pick you out of a crap.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Those are the problems with being cursed.
jordan holmes
All right, you can't be a daywalker anymore.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
Because I think what he's saying is that...
They're getting around the cosmic rules because these children are agreeing to get vaccinated, but they don't know any better.
unidentified
Who's making cosmic rules with loopholes that big?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
There's only one person.
dan friesen
Also, I would suggest that if this is some kind of thing that really curses you, having children make decisions that they're unable to understand, what about...
Baptism.
What about child baptism?
Shouldn't that be a problem?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Because the children can choose that, and that's good.
dan friesen
But, I mean, I understand that subjectively you would say that that is a good decision as opposed to getting a vaccine, which you think is a bad decision, which you're being tricked into.
unidentified
However...
dan friesen
Externally, from the view of the universe, these are both things that this child cannot decide.
jordan holmes
No, you can't trick a kid towards God.
That's the other cosmic rule.
You can only go towards, if you get baptized, you've meant to.
dan friesen
Right, it just seems weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just don't understand what it is exactly that makes those acts different outside of wanting them to be different.
jordan holmes
See, I just don't understand why you would want to be involved in any of that.
Like, I don't want...
dan friesen
This morality?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
unidentified
I don't want...
jordan holmes
I don't want to be...
I don't want to be good in this morality.
This seems even more...
Being good seems even more somehow evil in his morality.
dan friesen
And it's all incredibly confusing.
unidentified
Incoherent!
jordan holmes
How can you live on a day-to-day?
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
Like, I don't know.
I might be the devil.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
How do you make small moral choices?
Like, hmm, should I tell my wife she looks pretty today, or do I have to be 100% honest?
dan friesen
Is me telling her she looks pretty going to take away her free will to dress herself as she so chooses?
jordan holmes
Am I the devil?
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oof.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's almost...
It's paralyzing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's terrifying.
dan friesen
Yeah, but look.
Anyway, the devil, he has weird rules.
The devil's followers are cursed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, man.
jordan holmes
So are gods.
dan friesen
But we've gotten to where we've gotten, right?
And the more you just got to resist.
alex jones
And the enemy's biggest leg up is that what they're doing is so focused, so diabolical, so over the top that people just have real trouble grasping it.
unidentified
Hmm.
Hmm.
alex jones
And they project their own mindset onto the establishment.
And people don't want to face this.
People don't want to know the big truth.
They think that they can just deny it, and it's like a problem that's going to go away.
jordan holmes
This is a foul.
alex jones
And so the more you resist, the quicker this is going to be over with.
We're still going to go through the fire.
But acquiescing to what's coming is going to destroy you.
dan friesen
So when I hear that, I hear something along the lines of like, you know, hey, let's all burn.
Yeah.
The more you fight, the better it'll be.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So why not join an insurgency of some sort?
jordan holmes
If I don't get what I want, everyone's going to die.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, the fire.
Cleansing fire, as Alex has referred to.
jordan holmes
I want to throw a flag.
I want there to be a ten-yard penalty for him being like, people project onto the establishment because things are too difficult for them to understand, and then they want to live in denial.
I want to throw a flag on that.
dan friesen
You can't say it.
So Alex veers off from this path of fire.
We'll all live through the fire.
The fire will come.
He wants to hit on some of his sort of...
Modern talking points of these villains.
alex jones
All these articles about looking forward to the end of humanity, and Klaus Schwab is like, it's going to be so good for you.
You are going to drink sewage.
These are actual quotes.
You are going to drink sewage and eat weeds.
unidentified
And there will not be any more people in it.
alex jones
Again, you will be drinking this sewage.
He's saying this in German, by the way.
You know that he is German.
jordan holmes
With a Russian accent, of course.
alex jones
Most of his speeches are in other languages.
You can read the transcripts.
It's in the news today.
I'm not kidding.
dan friesen
So I think that's one of those things that's, like, really easy to see through, like, what he's lying about.
jordan holmes
Like, these are direct quotes.
dan friesen
I mean, it's like, yeah, okay.
jordan holmes
We will feed you dog turds.
This is what you will do.
These are actual quotes, by the way.
I am telling you, I am in Germany, by the way.
alex jones
I am a German man.
dan friesen
Without even doing any looking into anything.
about like sewage treatment plants yeah turning that into potable water yep and uh you know the potential of weeds uh as being a cultivatable food source think of uh turning things that we usually think of as not good into things that are good that's called progress right and like weeds are things that grow without any human intervention yeah if there were a way that you could turn that into food source it would be amazing it would be something that would be really great really Renewable water is something that will be increasingly important in the future.
jordan holmes
Imagine if food was an invasive species.
Just food.
dan friesen
It's not like Klaus Schwab is coming in to be like, eat this dandelion in this cup of piss.
unidentified
I shall feed you all manner of poop.
So silly.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is, you know...
Very serious.
Yes.
We're talking about foreign language speeches that Klaus Schwab gives.
And, like, this next subject is just as serious.
alex jones
And I've already burned through this segment.
I haven't gotten any of the clips I want to get to.
We'll cover all the election fraud and that nightmare and where that's going next hour.
But everybody's flipping out about this video that's up on Infowars.com.
jordan holmes
Flipping out.
alex jones
From last night.
We should probably repost the article.
But, uh...
COVID prediction from Project Runway in March of last year.
So a full 10, 11 months before it was even named that or on the radar.
But again, where do the globalists like to put stuff in fashion and in movies and in culture?
They want to tell you.
Like some serial killers will do that.
dan friesen
This is so dumb.
jordan holmes
You know what?
My instinct, whenever somebody's like...
Project One Runway predicts something in March of last year.
Just go, nah, get the fuck out of here.
But when it gets paid off with, where do the globalists put things?
Fashion shows.
It's in Project Runway.
That's where they hide all of their secrets, Dan.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Klaus Schwab comes up with an evil plan to make people eat sewage.
And then Tim Gunn says, make it happen.
I think that's his catchphrase.
I can't remember.
jordan holmes
Pretty sure.
Make it work.
dan friesen
Make it work.
I think that sounds right.
jordan holmes
I think that's what it is.
dan friesen
I have not seen that show in a very long time, but an ex of mine from years past loved that, and I watched a fuck ton of that show.
jordan holmes
Is that where you first heard about COVID?
dan friesen
What?
No.
I didn't watch that season.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I looked into this, though.
jordan holmes
Of course you looked into it.
dan friesen
So there was a contestant whose name was COVID with a K, which is a Sanskrit word.
jordan holmes
I'm already off the train.
dan friesen
And so there was a challenge called the head-to-toe challenge.
We had to make an outfit that involved the head to the feet.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
An entire outfit.
jordan holmes
Alright, so it's a guy named COVID creating a bodysuit.
dan friesen
Well, no, but the outfit involved a mask.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And so, like, COVID made a mask.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got it.
dan friesen
It's a fucking game show.
jordan holmes
I got it.
Coincidences.
It's great.
We all have a great time.
dan friesen
It's a game show, and, like, if you wanted to take a really easy route, you could maybe make a hat.
But the mask is something that may be a little bit more adventurous, maybe a little more difficult to pull off as an outfit.
And it just so happened that the person's name was COVID with a K, which is not the same word.
jordan holmes
Are you sure the globalists didn't plant a person named COVID to make a mask in order to give us the cosmic realization that eventually a pandemic would be coming named COVID and they will be using masks in order to...
Turn us into their own models on Project No Fun Way.
dan friesen
Really, quite frankly, the laugh they're having is huge.
jordan holmes
It's very large.
If it's anything like mine, it's very big.
dan friesen
You know what also is really interesting is they couldn't laugh unless Alex...
Found out.
Like, unless Alex reported on this, the globalists couldn't laugh about this.
jordan holmes
It's a real bummer.
Yeah.
It's a joke that's too subtle for anyone to get.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, they need Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, they're in a terrible dance of death.
dan friesen
But Alex doesn't need them.
jordan holmes
I really think he does.
dan friesen
They're demons.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They're vampires.
jordan holmes
But he's a demon.
dan friesen
Well, but they're vampires.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, that's true.
alex jones
By the way, you know, there's paintings of Count Dracula.
Spitting image of Prince Charles.
So, see, I could say a lot, I could do a lot here, but you need to understand what...
jordan holmes
Dracula.
alex jones
Blood-drinking, child-killing, pedophile murderers.
roger stone
So...
unidentified
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
alex jones
You can either fight him, or you can roll over and die to him.
jordan holmes
Like Count Dracula.
alex jones
But he wants to put his genetics...
Into your blood.
He wants to defile you.
He wants to put his material into your cells and overwrite your cell, cell by cell.
It's not a flying saucer crashed out in Antarctica in the movie The Thing.
jordan holmes
There are paintings of The Thing as well.
alex jones
It's coming out of a Chinese laboratory.
jordan holmes
No paintings.
alex jones
It's not the movie The Hunger where they look under the microscope.
And they see the vampire cell taking over the other cell.
jordan holmes
I didn't see that one.
I'll have to check it out.
alex jones
It's not a David Bowie movie.
Excellent film, by the way.
jordan holmes
Which David Bowie movie?
alex jones
It's the real world, boys and girls.
I want to hit two things here in a moment, but let me just do this.
I need money to fight this war.
unidentified
Cool.
Love it.
dan friesen
I need money to fight these vampires.
Honestly, wooden stakes are expensive as hell.
You should see the fucking garlic bills at Infowar Studio.
jordan holmes
You know, that's something that most vampire movies that have stuck with the old ways.
You know, it's very cost-effective.
You can find cheap steak material just about anywhere.
I mean, you know, the later Blade movies where you have to have high-tech stuff and the Underworld movies where you gotta do all that stuff.
But even then, still!
Stays the same, basically.
Put a steak through its heart.
dan friesen
Sunlight, steak, garlic.
Garlic keeps them away.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I have a little garlic growing.
jordan holmes
You got a little garlic.
unidentified
That's why we're totally vampire-free.
dan friesen
I'm not scared of these things that Alex is really worried about.
unidentified
I'm not terrified.
dan friesen
Because I have some garlic around.
jordan holmes
I have garlic.
I've got wood.
We're good to go.
That's true.
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
Although Selene could be a vampire.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
She's drawn some blood.
jordan holmes
She lost her eye to could be a vampire.
dan friesen
Or she could have been fighting a lycanthrope.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex, he ended that last clip with a plug, because of course he did.
And this leads to him...
Doing a long plug, an ad, and also a convoluted story about why he's not selling Super Blue anymore.
Okay, okay.
Eagle-eared listeners will remember that the reason is because he got a cease and desist letter.
jordan holmes
Well, there was that.
dan friesen
From the Attorney General of New York.
jordan holmes
There's more to it than that.
dan friesen
Oh, there certainly is.
alex jones
We have the charcoal toothpaste that's super high quality and concentrated that is amazing.
jordan holmes
Turned your mouth black.
alex jones
We had a pipeline for a year and a half before we even started selling.
People said, well, you stop selling.
Your super blue and your whitening toothpaste.
Yeah, because the national media lied and said that I said it was a COVID cure and tried to get me arrested.
Still trying, buddy.
And the problem is if I sell it, they'll lie again and say he's selling a cure.
And all these people flood in to buy it thinking it's a cure because they're saying it's a cure.
And they try to get affidavits from them thinking they bought a cure to indict me.
That's why we don't have that available for you.
because of the criminal activity of the Democratic Party and Letitia James in New York.
I mean, these are savage mafia dons that murder old people in nursing homes on purpose.
I mean, I'm up against murderers.
dan friesen
I feel like if everybody's lying about how you're selling this stuff, that's not a reason to stop.
It's just...
Don't do the things that they're saying.
If you're not doing those things, then just keep selling the product.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
If you have nothing to fear, then you have nothing to fear.
There's no affidavit that someone could file that would say, I was under the impression that this would stop me from getting COVID-19 if you didn't do anything to make them think that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That affidavit would fail in court.
jordan holmes
When those affidavits directly quote you, Yeah.
As having said something, and then they go and they look and you said that stuff?
dan friesen
That's the reason to stop selling the stuff.
jordan holmes
That's when you stop selling.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
You would keep doing it if there was no problem.
jordan holmes
That's a problem.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex doesn't mention this specifically on the episode, but Project Veritas has a new little thing going on.
I didn't watch it because I don't care.
jordan holmes
Don't care.
Fuck them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But apparently James O 'Keefe may have...
Gotten on a CNN morning editorial call and live-streamed it.
So he's like, Jeff Zucker, coming for you.
We can get into the places where you think you're private.
jordan holmes
And they're all like...
dan friesen
We have lawyers.
jordan holmes
Could you not be here or we'll sue you?
I don't know what to tell you.
dan friesen
Get out!
I hope that doesn't blow up in James O 'Keefe's face at all.
jordan holmes
Really do.
dan friesen
Again, being facetious.
jordan holmes
Really hoping.
unidentified
Get him!
dan friesen
Alex doesn't mention this stuff, but he does have a weird out-of-nowhere obsession with Jeff Zucker.
unidentified
Odd.
dan friesen
Which seems to be related.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Look at the photo of Jeff Zucker.
Looks just like Brian Stelter.
Look at his eye.
He's so in love with himself.
Just, oh, he's so satisfied.
Oh, they drive him in a limo, and oh, he makes millions of dollars, and oh, he's Jeff Zucker.
He's a joke.
And by the way, he knows he's a joke.
A smug nobody.
And that's why he wants to bring you down.
He hates you when you have a good Christmas.
He hates you.
He hates you when you pray to God.
He hates you because you've got a wonderful life and children.
He will never be a good person because he is a filthy, degenerate sack of evil.
dan friesen
That's a little much.
jordan holmes
A little much.
dan friesen
I can't say that that was intended to be anti-Semitic, but holy shit, is that trafficking in anti-Semitism?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's dripping in classical...
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh yeah.
dan friesen
He hates you when you have a good Christmas.
jordan holmes
He hates you when you have a good Christmas.
unidentified
God.
jordan holmes
He loves it when you have a good birthday, but he hates it when you have a good Christmas.
dan friesen
So ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Very neutral on Arbor Day.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, I know that Jeff Zucker is somebody that Alex has brought up in the past.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, like, he's not somebody who's a complete stranger to Alex's world.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But he's definitely not someone who's front and center for Alex.
jordan holmes
No, he's right-wing du jour, if you will, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, but, like, the focus is very glaring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's very apparent that, like, oh, I'm gonna try and...
Catch some of the weight.
jordan holmes
No, that's what I'm saying.
He's today's boogeyman.
dan friesen
But I think that even Alex recognizes that James O 'Keefe stuff is best to stay away from.
jordan holmes
Ah, he didn't reference it this time.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he's not having James on, which he has all of these other times.
I think he's like, ugh.
jordan holmes
This one might be too much.
dan friesen
I don't even know if it's like consequences.
It just might be like, I don't know.
This is a little soft.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Best to stay away.
But let's...
Kick Jeff Zucker.
jordan holmes
Well, why not?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Alex thinks that the best way for Trump to remain president is to just do it.
alex jones
I don't think Trump should even punt to the electors and the legislatures.
I think he should go with the American people, resolute desk, show all this evidence, and say, stand with me, American people, say no to this.
I know I'm going to D.C. on the 12th.
I know I'm going to that event.
And by the way, I'm taking that big march over.
We started it before.
These women hijacked it.
Now they're saying it again.
You can't even hear them on their microphone when 500,000 are there.
I'll be there.
We'll march to the White House.
It's going to be great.
I'll see you there.
dan friesen
There weren't 500,000 people there.
Also, you co-opted there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They had the permit.
They organized the event.
jordan holmes
They did all the work.
dan friesen
Yeah, you might have brought some people.
jordan holmes
You drove there.
unidentified
Good for you.
Good for you attracting a crowd.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
You'd still...
dan friesen
Stole their event, and you're gonna do that again, and pretend that they're stealing your event when they organized it and have the permits.
unidentified
Holy shit.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think that Alex is on his way to another tea party.
Okay.
And I think it's interesting that we know his...
We know his patterns of behavior.
We know what he did with the Tea Party, more or less, claiming that they were co-opting his movement, what have you.
And I think you can see it happening a little bit again.
On a smaller scale, at least at this point.
Because the people who are having these rallies in D.C. are just sort of like remnants of Tea Party people.
jordan holmes
They just don't dress up as fun anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah, now we're at a point where, like, Alex is probably more hooked up with the fringe and the sizable crowd.
jordan holmes
True, true.
dan friesen
So he might actually be able to co-opt them far more successfully than his attempts to take over Glenn Beck's ship.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
When Glenn Beck was on TV and Alex was the voice in the woods.
Yeah.
But I think one of the parts of what Alex, you know, his credibility now is he's best friends with Roger Stone.
And just like we had Steve come in on December 1st, now we have Steve.
jordan holmes
Now we have different Steve.
unidentified
Other Steve.
Yes.
dan friesen
You'll understand why that slip of the tongue happened, because Roger's swinging.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
And for the fences.
I don't mean like Liberty.
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
He's going for it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The first clip is the bad kind of a swing, and that is, hey man, yeah, fucking martial law, cool.
jordan holmes
Great.
roger stone
And I think the president has to have all options on the table as to how he proceeds.
The one thing he cannot do, Alex, is quit.
He has powerful forces arrayed against him.
It is extraordinary.
Let's call them the armies of the Pharaoh, the Pharaoh's armies.
But this is God's nation.
I believe he was selected for God for this job.
I pray to God every day.
That he will not only not quit, but he will be strengthened in his resolve.
dan friesen
Yeah, go tell Nixon about it.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I just love the idea of like, hey, Roger, in the 70s, go back there and be like, this is going to be you.
jordan holmes
This is going to be you.
unidentified
God chose you for this.
jordan holmes
Live your life, shitbag.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Enjoy the next 40 years of your life knowing that this is what you end up.
jordan holmes
Oh, that would be great.
dan friesen
This next clip, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Maybe one of my favorite swings.
I can't...
Like, Steve's had some big ones just about himself.
Like, most of Steve's stuff is, like, really braggadocio.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's really just, I am the most important person.
I've done everything important.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I overthrew Ghana twice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Now Steve comes in.
unidentified
Man, this is...
jordan holmes
Roger comes in.
dan friesen
Again?
jordan holmes
You're doing it again.
dan friesen
Well, it's because of the swing.
jordan holmes
Okay, let's hear it.
roger stone
I just learned of absolute incontrovertible evidence of North Korean boats delivering ballots through a harbor in Maine.
Yes.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
roger stone
If this checks out, if law enforcement looked into that and it turned out to be true, it would be proof of foreign involvement.
In the election.
dan friesen
This is the best.
jordan holmes
North Korean boats.
dan friesen
Let me walk through this.
jordan holmes
Are North Korean.
dan friesen
They arrived in Maine.
jordan holmes
Maine?
dan friesen
North Korean boats?
Hold on.
jordan holmes
In the world?
unidentified
Circle?
dan friesen
Globe?
Circle?
They had to come by boat to deliver these fake ballots.
Man.
The number of questions this conspiracy raises brings this claim into the territory of farce.
jordan holmes
That is a swing.
That is a swing for the fences.
dan friesen
If this is a sprawling conspiracy involving tons of countries and US actors, why did North Korea have the balance?
Why couldn't they have been printed domestically?
Why would these conspirators need to print the ballots in North Korea, then have the country that's under the heaviest surveillance and under very strict embargoes carry out a delivery by sea, which would obviously raise alarms no matter what the cargo was.
Also, you were sort of insinuating this.
unidentified
Why would they arrive in Maine?
dan friesen
Does Roger not realize that in order for a North Korean boat to reach Maine, they would need to either navigate south of Africa, then head north, or transit through the Panama Canal?
jordan holmes
The Panama Canal!
unidentified
North Korean boats through the Panama Canal!
dan friesen
North Korea would have a much easier, but still almost ridiculously impossible time getting a boat to the West Coast, like some state on the West Coast, since there's shorelines on the Sea of Japan, which leads to the Pacific Ocean.
unidentified
Shit!
dan friesen
If we're just imagining that these North Korean boats can show up wherever they want, then why wouldn't they go to Hawaii?
That's definitely their closest shot.
unidentified
Literally.
dan friesen
There could not be a more complicated coastal state for North Korea to get to than Maine by boat.
jordan holmes
How did he choose that one?
dan friesen
Also, if this is true, shouldn't this be intensely embarrassing for Trump?
Like, that dude bent over backwards trying to impress and appease Kim Jong-un, and now, in Trump's hour of need, his dictator buddy sends a boat full of ballots halfway across the world to screw him over.
That seems like an indication that Trump's deal-making skills are what they cracked up to be.
I mean this sincerely, Jordan.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
This is the most amazingly stupid theory that I think I've ever heard someone suggest on InfoWars.
unidentified
I've never heard anything like this in my entire life.
dan friesen
There have been dumber theories, I think, but this is something that Roger is suggesting as being supported by, quote, absolute incontrovertible...
jordan holmes
I am more likely to believe the Earth is flat than that North Korea could successfully, secretly get boats to Maine.
Period.
dan friesen
Full of ballots.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, like a dinghy.
A dinghy with North Korea printed on the side of it couldn't get to Maine from North Korea.
That is insane.
dan friesen
If North Koreans could get, like, if the state of North Korea could get boats full of ballots to Maine, why are we worried about their rocket program?
Like, they could just bring a bomb.
unidentified
North Korea's just fucking...
jordan holmes
Fucking lift a bomb into Maine and then walk away and get on their boats and click a button and like, ha ha!
We've defeated you Americans!
dan friesen
I feel like Roger's acting like the surveillance on North Korea is just like a guy asleep.
jordan holmes
It must be.
It must be.
dan friesen
Just in front of a bunch of monitors.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
They put a picture of the room that they were supposed to be monitoring in the camera so it looks like that the...
But it's not.
It's a picture on top of the camera.
dan friesen
I'm baffled by this.
But I do think that this is the kind of thing you can get someone to say whenever you get them out of prison.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
I'll say whatever the fuck you want, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, hey man, you were destined to be here by God and North Korean boats are the only reason you lost the election.
They showed up in Maine and fucked you over.
jordan holmes
Hey buddy, I got takeout last night instead of being in jail.
So guess what?
North Korea did it to Maine.
Don't care.
dan friesen
It's awesome too because someone had to have made this up.
And that means that someone made up a story with the stupidest state.
jordan holmes
There can't possibly be something else that this is based on.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Sell me on a non-contro...
Sell me on a thoroughly controvertible document.
dan friesen
I tried to look for some indication of what the fuck Roger was talking about, and any story that I could find had to do with Roger saying this.
So I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Maybe it's something deep thing on Twitter I couldn't find.
jordan holmes
That's a big swing.
dan friesen
I wouldn't be surprised if this was another QAnon thing, quite frankly.
unidentified
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
But just, like, goddamn.
Roger, buddy.
unidentified
Say it.
jordan holmes
Say it out loud.
dan friesen
Buddy.
Roger.
jordan holmes
Put a globe in front of you and then just don't give me any documents.
Put a globe on your desk and just point to how they got it.
dan friesen
Show me how that boat got it.
jordan holmes
Just with your finger.
Did it go north?
I'm not asking for details.
dan friesen
Did it go north?
Did it go above China and Russia?
jordan holmes
Do your best.
dan friesen
Through the Arctic?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't care if they're actual shipping lines.
Just do your best.
dan friesen
Did it go down?
Maybe try to get through the Straits of Gibraltar?
Did it try to get into the Mediterranean and then go through there?
jordan holmes
Second question.
Very serious question.
Did it go through the Earth?
dan friesen
I think that the only state it would be more difficult to get a boat to is Kansas.
It's in the middle of the fucking country.
unidentified
Because it would take a huge wave to put inland.
jordan holmes
You'd really have to get up there.
unidentified
It's a fucking black rock or some shit.
jordan holmes
Fitzcarraldo is easier.
dan friesen
Yes, exactly.
Better reference than my lost reference.
So, that's silly, and Roger is dumb.
jordan holmes
Very silly.
dan friesen
But this next clip of Roger is like, hey man, you've forgotten the script.
roger stone
I have a very high regard for Sidney Powell.
I have an equally high regard for my old friend, Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who I've had a friendship with.
Since his first campaign for mayor of New York City.
dan friesen
Hey, guy, didn't Rudy cover up 9-11?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Isn't that supposed to be part of the...
Moving on.
Don't worry about it.
dan friesen
So, Roger also thinks that Trump supporters need to get aggressive, and they need to force legislatures to just say, hey, Trump's cool, let him stay president.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And then we get a very familiar phenomenon.
roger stone
And I think supporters of the president in the key states need to begin now.
Contact your Republican state legislators.
Those are your Republican state senators or your state representatives.
Some states, they call them assemblies, and urge them to support the president, to support an objective and honest count of the election and the certification of electors that will support Donald Trump at the Electoral College.
alex jones
The stonewalling, there's no evidence, is ridiculous.
dan friesen
Yeah, it sure is.
How's that sandwich?
unidentified
Stonewalling.
Do more of the German guy again.
dan friesen
Alex bids farewell to Roger, and he doesn't add, and he talks about how he has a promo code.
You put Patriot on the website, you get 10% more off.
And he's like, I never do promo codes.
And I started to think about it like, I don't think I have heard him do a promo code.
jordan holmes
Well, that's a good question.
dan friesen
Because I think I would have made fun of it.
I think so.
I think I would have made fun of whatever word he chose to be the promo code.
jordan holmes
I think we would have gotten there sooner or later, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't feel like he does do promo codes very often.
jordan holmes
I can't think of a time where we've made fun of him.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's interesting.
I don't know what that means, but he then gets into talking about how you need- It means you get an extra 10% off, buddy.
I'm not buying shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You need fish oil.
unidentified
Yes, you do.
dan friesen
And so do your kids.
jordan holmes
Sure, they do.
Wait, can they choose to take fish oil?
alex jones
I just want to remind you, you're the reason we're on air.
Thank you.
These are great products you and your family need.
Especially for children, man.
This fish oil is so good for children.
So good for everybody.
But man, I tell you, what it does for their brains.
It's what your brain literally runs on.
It's like the perfect thing compared to sugar.
Sugar is horrible for your brain.
This is what it actually runs on.
But I'm digressing.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know if it's like fish oil or sugar.
I don't know if those are the...
jordan holmes
It's fish oil or sugar.
It is not glucose.
dan friesen
I don't...
jordan holmes
It's not omega-3s or whatever you would like.
It is either a big bowl of fish oil.
dan friesen
I can't imagine a conversation between parents.
Like, one of them's Alex, and he's like, yeah, you should give your kids fish oil.
And the other parent's like...
No, we're going with sugar.
jordan holmes
I give him sugar pills every morning, about twice a day.
Just concentrated stuff, though.
dan friesen
So at this point in the episode, Alex realizes that Lynn Wood, the attorney, is doing the press conference.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Batshit.
dan friesen
Quite.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Absolute wild batshit.
dan friesen
And so Alex goes to it live, and I was like, holy shit.
alex jones
I love it.
1776 will commence again.
unidentified
We're gonna send that message.
We're gonna send that message to George Soros.
roger stone
Get out of our country, George Soros!
jordan holmes
He's not here!
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
This is so scary.
I mean, we're laughing, but that's fucking terrifying.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that's fucking, yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That is a Hitler rally.
That's not a non-Hitler rally.
That is a Hitler rally where Hitler would Hitler.
dan friesen
George Soros, get out of our country.
jordan holmes
Hitler rally.
Hitler, poor Hitler.
That is five Hitler mustaches, Dan.
dan friesen
On a scale of one to five?
jordan holmes
On a scale of one to five mustaches.
dan friesen
I think it's four just because you've got to leave some room.
jordan holmes
That's true.
There's more Hitler to be done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Lin Wood gets around to talking about, hey, hey, look, the media, bad.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There are places that are good, though.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Well, that's good to know.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Especially because this is being broadcast live on Infowars.
unidentified
Yes.
Now, everybody's been reading the media.
Stop.
It's a lie.
jordan holmes
It's a lie.
You can't trust them.
unidentified
Stick with OAN and Newsmax.
They tell you the truth.
Read the Epoch Times.
They tell you the truth.
This is a battle between good and evil.
dan friesen
They'll never say in fours we're too powerful.
unidentified
Man!
jordan holmes
That is sad.
That is sad!
That is so sad.
dan friesen
Even fucking crazy people with nothing to lose are no better than to associate themselves with that.
jordan holmes
So sad.
dan friesen
The dude would have no problem saying in fours if he actually thought they were worth a damn.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
If they thought InfoWars was going to grow, they would say InfoWars immediately.
dan friesen
Do you know what's a better propagandist right now?
A coat rack.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just a random person.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
A random face that is shaved and in a suit is better than Alex.
jordan holmes
This coat rack has done a great job of being there, not talking, which is better than Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, a random person who doesn't have the intense baggage that Alex has.
Oh, let's see.
Someone who doesn't have to fucking pretend that the president's son told him to investigate something.
Someone who's not an embarrassing sack.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is like, yeah, we'll go back to it.
unidentified
We'll go back to this.
dan friesen
We'll jump back and forth.
I gotta take some calls.
I gotta take some calls.
So this caller, he decides that war is coming.
unidentified
War.
But like Dr. P says, Dr. Prochenik, it's the art of war.
And God has drawn out the enemy.
Now they are completely exposed, completely uncovered, and there's nothing that they can do.
And Trump doesn't have to do another thing.
We the people will do the rest like Glenn would just say.
And so I would say this.
The declaration of war date is January 11th.
Ooh, you tricked us.
Trump knows what's up, but do we know what's up?
Are we ready?
Are we the people ready to take this country back from the globalists that have controlled it since the 1890s?
alex jones
So you're saying he's not up there commanding the forces.
He wants it to be organic.
He's leaving it in our hands.
I hear you.
I think that's what he's doing, yeah.
Well, we better hit the streets then, like Lin Wood's doing and like we're doing.
dan friesen
Trying to find meaning in your lack of leadership.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
He wants us to be revolution violent.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So, Rogan...
jordan holmes
Why does everybody always want to fight a war?
It's 2020.
We can't outsmart these idiots.
What are we doing fighting a war?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
What are you doing fighting a war?
dan friesen
Look...
jordan holmes
Humans are not 50 years old.
dan friesen
Look, the issue is that Rogan's coming up tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex promotes that.
And then the show takes...
The leftist of left turns.
Rightist of right turns.
It's not politics.
jordan holmes
It's just a crazy turn.
Out of left field.
alex jones
You know, Joe Rogan is on the show tomorrow.
Yep, right here in studio.
So look for that.
And a lot of other surprises.
You know, I've known Steve Pachenik.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
And I knew he was in the CFR.
And I knew that...
He did run the overthrow of multiple governments.
That's in the congressional record.
And a lot of other things.
And pretty much everything he ever told me turned out to be very accurate.
But I just...
I believe he was told by high-level folks in the CIA that Trump's done this sting and the globalists are all going to get in trouble.
I just wonder if they're feeding him a lot of bull.
Because, man, I mean, you saw what Barr came out and did and everything else.
I just...
I'm not up here saying we're out of the woods, and I'm not up here saying that.
I'm not disagreeing with him.
I'm not saying I think he's a disingenuous person or a liar.
I just, you know, I have a bad feeling.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is, this is weird, because he did say that Steve was still working for the CIA after the Las Vegas shooting.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
When Steve tried to convince him that no one died, and it was all fake.
So now he's trying to retain Steve's credibility, but just he's been fooled by high-level CIA people.
He's trying to have his cake and eat it, too, and it's just not good.
jordan holmes
You gotta cut ties or you gotta lean in.
You can't half-ass with Stevie P's.
dan friesen
But I do kind of feel like, yeah, good call.
Good call, like, knowing at least that you can't...
jordan holmes
This one might be too much, even for us.
David Knight just texted me mean language.
dan friesen
But it's also like what we talked about on the first time this came up.
It's too falsifiable.
When this never comes up, it's like, oh, what happened?
I thought the election was a fucking sting operation.
All the proof should be there.
Where is it?
It's a disappointing game.
But look, Steve might be wrong.
Because people might be lying to him.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
But there's one thing that's totally true.
jordan holmes
What's that?
alex jones
And by the way, he wasn't joking when he said China called him.
Pachinik has sent me video and photos when he's in North Korea hanging out with the North Koreans.
I mean, he gets around, folks.
And so I'll just leave it at that.
unidentified
He took a boat from Florida to North Korea.
alex jones
He says Beijing, you know, high-level operatives called him.
And they're like, yeah, we know Trump's going to win.
You notice Putin won't congratulate Biden.
dan friesen
Man, this is really sad.
Steve is like, well, maybe he's wrong about all this, but China did call him, because I'm important.
jordan holmes
Shut up.
You can't even get it up for Steve Pagena getting a call from China.
No, I've seen him.
He was in North Korea one time.
dan friesen
Hey, it's funny that you bring up getting it up.
alex jones
I can't take Super Male Vitality.
I obviously don't need it.
But, I mean, I don't want to get graphic as a family show, but I don't need to be walking around with, you know, something going on downstairs, okay?
unidentified
I mean, if I take it, I mean, it's ridiculous.
alex jones
It's like waking up at 4 a.m. or 5 a.m., you know, you've got an erection.
jordan holmes
Is Super Male Vitality actually just, like, straight-up bull hormones?
What the fuck is it?
Every time we hear about it, it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, his wife walks bowlegged, so buy this fucking boner.
dan friesen
I love it.
I've never heard that moment happen, that moment of Alex being forced to say the word erection.
That is so awful.
jordan holmes
It really was gross.
It really was gross.
dan friesen
I have cursed all of you with that.
jordan holmes
It's really gross.
I was trying not to focus on it.
dan friesen
So Alex goes back to calls, and he's sitting here, and he's having a good time with this caller, because this caller's speculating that, hey man, these globalists, they're so out of control, they'll probably let China ground invade us.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Right?
That's probably what they're going to do.
jordan holmes
In boats.
dan friesen
And because Alex was so excited about this, he accidentally let this guy keep talking.
unidentified
These governments and mayors are so corrupt, they're so dangerous, that I think they're going to let China invade.
alex jones
No, I agree.
They want to break this.
They are foaming at the mouth to kill us.
Because it's a spiritual thing.
I agree.
Tell me what your gut tells you.
unidentified
Man, it's going to fall like Ukraine if Joe Biden get in.
He's going to go against the American patriots, the white people of the country that he hates.
They hate us.
That's why they robbed the whole belt with the votes.
All the white people right there voted Trump in.
We've seen it that night.
But he's going to cause war against the white patriots.
As soon as he get in office, and then maybe, I think...
alex jones
No, I agree.
They try to trick white people to attack black people.
unidentified
No, it ain't about black or white, because we...
alex jones
No, I know, but I'm saying they're trying to trick us to kill each other, though.
unidentified
Yeah, but black people, well, they know what's going on, but these people that's in top, they don't like their own color, man.
They want to kill y 'all.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Alex, you should have pretended he hung up.
jordan holmes
I am not.
Comfortable in this conversation.
dan friesen
This caller who I've had a great time talking to has now revealed that he believes that the Patriots are the white people.
jordan holmes
Yep.
It's very clear.
Uh-oh.
It is fun where he's like, no, no, I'm doing a good job.
I'm saying what you're saying.
All the patriots are the white people.
And he's like, no, no, you're not supposed to actually say that.
dan friesen
And so Alex tries to save it by being like, yeah, they're trying to get the white people to foolishly attack the black people.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, black people are fine.
This is all about white people.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets back from commercial break, and I will say that You Belong to the City did play once during this episode, and Alex didn't get enthusiastic about it.
However, Gnarls Barkley, the song Crazy, plays, and Alex does get a little excited with this.
alex jones
It is not the destination.
It is the journey.
It's a test, my friends, and it's real.
It's my only advice.
Look at Jeff Zucker.
Look at you.
You think you're in control?
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
unidentified
Let's show some!
All right.
alex jones
You think you're in control?
unidentified
And you're in control?
You guys think you're in control?
alex jones
You're in control of shit.
unidentified
All right, let's go to your phone calls.
dan friesen
You might have noticed that the song skipped there, and that's because Alex said, you guys are in control of shit, and they hit the bleep button at the wrong time, so the shit went out over the air, and then a little cut.
unidentified
Skip five seconds.
dan friesen
Skip the part where he says, drop that.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So yeah, he got really into it.
jordan holmes
I do like him.
That's probably the most unhinged I've heard anyone sound in a good long while.
That was...
That was out there.
steve pieczenik
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, he's into predictive programming.
He loves people to say that movies are reality.
This is a new one for me.
unidentified
Hey, Alex, two things here.
Number one, if you remember a movie that came out in 2006, Man of the Year, Robin Williams.
They had an election.
The voting machines switched the election and switched the results to the candidate that was less desirable, just like what's happening right now.
alex jones
That's right.
That's a good movie.
It's set in Latin America.
dan friesen
Good conversation.
Hey, there's this movie that it's real.
jordan holmes
These people just cannot believe for one second that the guy for the past four years they have heard nothing but horrible shit about from one huge section of the country.
They can't believe that that guy might not be beloved?
dan friesen
Well, no, because they haven't heard that.
It's all the media.
It's all the mainstream media that's creating this false perception that no one likes Trump.
jordan holmes
Okay.
That's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess that everybody in this world lives in their own bubble where they don't have to deal with, like, reality at all.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, you can't walk down the street and not be like, oh, a lot of people hate Trump.
dan friesen
Well, it's kind of, you know, it's an interesting line that I struggle with sometimes, or at least I have in the past, and that is that, like, you can recognize that organizations like the Koch brothers and stuff, they do fund things massively on the right.
Sure.
AstroTurf.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But knowing that, you cannot say that people don't believe conservative principles or values or have right-leaning politics.
You can't say that all that's fake because there is this libertarian-moneyed interest that's floating in and trying to push things that way.
The same is sort of the trap that Alex and a lot of the Trump folk fall into, which is, like, they think that the media is just telling everyone that Trump is bad, and then they're sort of thinking that no one actually believes that.
The media's crumbling, and it's powerless, and it's pathetic, and everyone knows they're liars now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, yeah, so that's kind of the trap that they're in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I guess when you...
I suppose if you dehumanize enough people, or a large enough group, then eventually people who are like, oh no, I know plenty of people who would normally fall into that group, they must secretly be Trump supporters too or something?
Because it's like...
I don't know.
This is nuts.
Wild.
dan friesen
So this caller believes that Biden, if he gets in, Kamala Harris will become president.
Biden will get out of there somehow.
jordan holmes
Sure.
He'll trip and fall and wear an ankle bracelet.
dan friesen
And then Kamala Harris will make either AOC or Hillary the vice president.
And then Alex asks the most introspective question I could imagine.
unidentified
If Biden stays in within six months, he's going to have a stroke or he's going to be declared incompetent, which is going to move Kamala Harris into the president's spot.
And she's going to either put either AOC or Hillary.
Clinton in as her vice president.
Why?
That would be the absolute worst scenario for this country if that Why?
alex jones
is that she's such a devil worshiper.
Like the demon that's able to inhabit her is like they worship her.
The left worships her.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Why is the left so obsessed with Hillary Clinton?
jordan holmes
Yes, why are we, the left, obsessed!
unidentified
Obsessed with it!
jordan holmes
We just can't stop talking about Hillary, Dan!
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's pretty, pretty cool.
jordan holmes
Pretty cool.
You, uh, I don't know if Projection gets that loud.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's the most loud.
dan friesen
No.
So, Alex gets another caller, and this dude says that they're going to take over D.C. Sure.
Right?
There's going to be a protest.
jordan holmes
Yeah, millions.
dan friesen
This is where I am probably not going to do this, but now I do have the opportunity.
I don't know if I could do it safely, but if Alex did this, I would want to go make a documentary about it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I really, really would.
jordan holmes
All right, here we go.
unidentified
I already have the website ready to go, takeoverdc.com.
alex jones
Love it.
We're going to do with what you guys did.
unidentified
Love it.
However, everybody needs to be out there.
We need to set up supply lines.
We need to camp.
jordan holmes
We need to take care of those.
alex jones
Come out there.
No, I agree.
In fact, I've already decided.
I'm moving into D.C. Yes.
They let the homeless camp everywhere, but oh, watch, they'll say no.
I'm moving in to the Lincoln Memorial.
I'm moving in there.
dan friesen
I'm going to live in D.C. I would love to go and document Alex's time at the Lincoln Memorial.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, if we do not...
If he didn't...
If you are listening to this and you have five dollars...
I don't know where I was going to end that.
We need a billion dollars to make that documentary is what I'm saying.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
I don't want anybody to get money to make a documentary.
jordan holmes
No, I was going the way wrong way in my head.
dan friesen
I just don't think I can do it because, you know, just logistics of the world.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I think that there's such an amazing story to be told here if Alex were to go, and that is that he would realize that it's winter in D.C. Okay, here we go.
And he would go home.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
This is what I got for you.
We gotta get Ken Burns in on this.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
We gotta get Ken Burns.
We gotta get everybody.
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Bring back Ronson.
jordan holmes
Bring back Ronson.
Get...
dan friesen
Louis Theroux.
jordan holmes
Get Herzog.
Who better than Herzog?
This is Grizzly Man 2, the grizzliest.
dan friesen
Alex eats Owen Troyer.
jordan holmes
It's too cold in D.C. It's too cold in D.C. Or Owen Schroer skins Alex and wears him like a blanket.
dan friesen
Day two, Alex is trying to make a fire out of his femurs.
unidentified
Owen's trying to light a fire with Owen's femur.
Now I heard that you can use whale fat, so maybe you can use Owen fat.
dan friesen
Owen was warned spiritually when I said that I would eat my neighbors.
So cosmically, this is okay.
jordan holmes
So cosmically, it's cool.
dan friesen
I think that there is such an amazing potential in my brain for what this looks like in the real world.
Alex isn't going to do this.
jordan holmes
No, obviously not.
dan friesen
If he did this, he would stay at a hotel nearby and show up and yell in a bullhorn every now and again.
He would never stay.
It's not going to be over 40 degrees until March.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope, nope.
dan friesen
Not going to happen.
DC.
Average temperature is low.
unidentified
It's cold.
dan friesen
It's winter.
unidentified
He's not going to go out there and camp out at the Lickin Memorial?
He doesn't believe this shit.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Nope.
dan friesen
But I would love it.
I would love it.
Man, I wish I was a millionaire.
If I was a millionaire, here's what I would do.
jordan holmes
What would you do?
dan friesen
I would say, Alex, giant donation.
But you have to do this.
You have to yourself.
Not any of your staff.
You have to stay out there as long as this encampment lasts.
And much like maybe some MTV show from the early 2000s, you get paid more the longer you stay out there.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
And all on camera.
Yeah.
unidentified
Because I want to see your misery.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I want to see you camping out fucking pissed off at three in the morning so mad that only 2,000 people showed up to your encampment.
jordan holmes
This needs to be Fat Bear.
There needs to be 24-7 live.
This should be on Bet365 daily.
dan friesen
This is what I'm talking about, though.
I probably would not go for the sake of safety and just responsibility in the present world we live in.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Under ideal circumstances, I would love to go and make a documentary about this.
The best I could do is if he actually does this and they actually have feeds, fuck, I might be tempted to do nonstop coverage of it.
Like waiting for him to break.
But he wouldn't break.
It would be so disappointing.
It would end up being like...
Two minutes of Alex yelling in a bullhorn and then Harrison Smith in the studio or some shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And there'd be an excuse for why he has to leave right away so he wouldn't lose all face.
dan friesen
Family stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally, totally.
All of a sudden, COVID will be real.
dan friesen
This is just another time, and it sucks because we've done this enough, that it's another time that I see this amazing potential in what could come and it's not going to.
I'm preemptively disappointed in it.
I know it's not going to be.
I remember, it's the same thing I felt like the second time I heard there was a marathon.
The first time, I thought like, oh my god.
jordan holmes
Oh shit, this is the jackpot!
dan friesen
He's gonna be gassed by hour three!
And then it's like, oh, hour three, David Knight's hosting.
And then the second time, I'm like, it's not gonna be good.
Now, I'm just like, a caravan fucked me.
Everything just sucks.
Alex going to Georgia sucked.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, when you...
dan friesen
I might have to write a song about Alex camping out in D.C. Now, here's the problem.
jordan holmes
When we make a show about an exhaustive failure who fails exhaustively all the time, it's hard for us to expect him to succeed.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you kind of have to always...
jordan holmes
Yeah, you always hope Charlie Brown's gonna kick that fucking ball, man.
dan friesen
You have to come in with a little optimism, or else...
You know, it's a slog.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, then you'll never try and kick the ball again.
dan friesen
So I beg you, Alex.
Please.
jordan holmes
Do it.
dan friesen
You'll save America.
jordan holmes
We will create a documentary for free.
dan friesen
You will save America single-handedly if you camp out at the Lincoln Memorial through the winter.
jordan holmes
And if you eat fish and try and get as fat as possible.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
That's so good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have one last clip here, and it's a caller who's threatening to shut down Biden's inauguration.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
unidentified
He's going real deep right now.
I see him doing something major before...
I mean, he'll probably wait until their fake inauguration of Biden.
It ain't going to be in D.C. because we're going to shut that down.
They're probably going to do it in California or New York City.
It's going to be something...
alex jones
Listen, I need everybody out there to understand me.
Because I'm a major target, and I'm not trying to act fancy pants, but let me tell you, I'm putting my ass on the line, my skin of the game, okay?
I'm there on the 12th, I want people there, and I'm going to be there on the 20th come hell or high water.
So you've got my commitment, and they've told me, don't you show your ass back in D.C. while I'm coming.
And so you go ahead and do whatever you want.
That's what God wants.
If you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
Quote Obi-Wan Kenobi.
dan friesen
You don't get to quote the Jedi's.
jordan holmes
Nah, you're the bad guy.
Remember, your favorite guy is literally the Emperor.
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't get to do that.
That's not fair.
Jerk.
jordan holmes
See, now that would be acceptable on his I'm Joining the Dark Side episode where he quotes Obi-Wan the whole time.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would make sense.
jordan holmes
And he comes into the show with just swelling strings.
dan friesen
That would be fitting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'd be great.
dan friesen
So, I don't think Alex is going to follow through with this.
I think he's going to go do some publicity stunts in D.C. He said he's going to be there on the 12th, which is when that rally he's going to co-opt is.
And then on the 20th for inauguration.
I could see him going to that as well and trying to cause a scene.
But when would the camping be?
Would it be on the 12th?
Would it start on the 12th and then go through the inauguration?
Because that's what it should be.
Set up a goddamn Zephyr!
jordan holmes
No chance!
dan friesen
Get out there and broadcast from the Lincoln Memorial.
jordan holmes
He eats more sandwiches in a day than he will spend hours on that mall.
dan friesen
This makes me sad.
I want it to happen, and I'm not going to allow myself to believe that it's not going to happen yet.
jordan holmes
There's the chance.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
There's always the chance.
Hope springs eternal.
dan friesen
It's still Schrodinger's occupation at this point.
So we will see.
jordan holmes
Until we're allowed to observe it.
dan friesen
And another thing that's Schrodinger's...
We have Schrodinger's Mondays episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
It could be a Rogan episode.
Could not be.
At this point, it is both.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
It is simultaneously an episode about Rogan and not.
And you'll have to tune in on Monday to find out.
jordan holmes
That sounds like something I would hear on the Joe Rogan show.
unidentified
It is both at the same time.
dan friesen
Yeah, also, how about...
I can't remember what his sponsors were.
Damn it.
jordan holmes
Wasn't there a toilet one?
Schwifty?
No, that's Rick and Morty.
I don't remember.
Flushy!
Flushy!
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I don't think that was it.
Who knows?
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
You bet.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgeunderscorefight and at go2bedjordan.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm a North Korean...
Ballot tugboat captain.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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