Knowledge Fight - #504: November 16-17, 2020

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#504: November 16-17, 2020

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Jordan Holmes and Dan Friesen dissect Alex Jones’ chaotic November 16–17, 2020 episode, where he falsely claimed Georgia’s election was rigged by Democrats, inflating crowd estimates at the D.C. rally to a million despite police reports of 200,000. He praised Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio and mocked QAnon skeptics while Ali Alexander joined, accusing unnamed organizers of spreading lies—ironic given Jones’ own disorganization. The hosts ridiculed Jones’ conspiracy-laden claims, including "dimensional" vaccine warnings and a caller’s dream as political prophecy, exposing his reliance on fringe theories over facts. His Georgia trip with Roger Stone and Ali underscores how election denialism thrives on performative outrage rather than credible action, proving once again that his crusades are built on spectacle, not substance. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 09:55

dan friesen

41:38

jordan holmes

19:42

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ali alexander

02:38

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enrique tarrio

00:13

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jeff in canada

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Speaker	Time	Text
unidentified		Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledgeparty.com.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's time to pray.
unidentified		And I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
unidentified		I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Shang me are the bad guys.
unidentified		Knowledge my fight.
		Dan and Jordan.
		Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I need money.
		Rattler.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy in Kansas.
unidentified		Andy.
unidentified		It's time to pray.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're on the earth for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
unidentified		I'm a fifth pin color.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your room.
unidentified		Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledgefight.com.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
unidentified		Hey, everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm Dan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're Gabriel Dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed, we are, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
unidentified		Dan!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have a question for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot today is Socrates.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Socratean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that it is know thyself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it wasn't just the word Socrates.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it was the Oracle of Delphi.
		Okay.
		Whatever the fuck.
		Know thyself.
		Yes.
		Because I started to think about stuff earlier this week, and I was thinking about like, what do I know about myself?
		I'm like, well, I like spicy stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I just so happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just so happened to have a spice challenge sitting around that we were going to camera.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, the nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it wasn't the nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was the white chocolate bar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the white chocolate bar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		White lightning, I believe, is the name of it.
		And I bought this white chocolate bar that has a bunch of chilies in it because I was like, hey, that sounds interesting.
		Second, they were giving meals to charity for every bar that they sold.
		So there was a charity drive.
		I was like, I'll buy this.
		And we'll try it and we'll have some fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, it was sitting on my counter, and I thought to myself, would I enjoy this without an audience?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Would I enjoy this spice, like crazy hot thing without the added element of people watching me eat it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can I enjoy this without it being content?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now we get to know thyself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't like spicy stuff that much.
unidentified		I ate about half of it alone and I thought it was terrible.
		It sucked.
		Oh, God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I'm getting older or what, but like, it was unpleasant.
		I found it to be too much.
		It hurt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all punctured.
		You don't like fucking spicy things.
		You don't like seltzers.
		You're not going to like vinegars anymore.
		All these plants are alive.
		They're all fake.
		All of this shit is bullshit, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all about worms.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is anybody even actually listening to this show?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is this just you and me?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have all these sock puppet accounts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you trolling me with the greatest troll it is?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have fake addresses I'm sending buttons to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that is what's going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be a good scam.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I still really like spicy stuff, but I don't like really spicy stuff.
		I think that I think, you know, I don't know.
		Maybe it was late 20s, early 30s.
		I was in a real extreme spice kind of place.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Got your picture on a wall everywhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, I have achieved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've achieved something.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that maybe it's just over for me for the extreme spice.
		So I will be getting a hot as opposed to an extra hot at the Thai place in the future.
		And I think that's okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is okay.
		I agree.
		That is my bright spot, is accepting that about myself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How about you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot, Dan, is piano solos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Piano solos is my bright spot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, this is a mix of a great bright spot and a bit of a sad note.
unidentified		I was listening to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The outro to Layla?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very nicely done.
		Nicely done.
		I was listening to Yoko Kano play the piano solo on Adieu from the Cowboy Bab soundtrack.
		And it's a really, really good piano solo.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Second only to the outro from Layla.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very Thelonious Monk and it's syncopation.
		It's really, really good.
		And then I was thinking about my favorite pianist of all time is Keith Jarrett.
		Do you know Keith Jarrett?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is a jazz pianist who will give these like literally hour and a half long improvised piano concerts where it's basically just him for an hour and a half.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's fucking the 88.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Riveting.
		His music is beautiful, and he is incredible.
		He's a dynamite performer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I just found out that he had a stroke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and he's lost the ability to use his right hand.
		I can't remember.
		It's one of his hands, though.
		So he'll probably never play live again.
unidentified		Maybe not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he'll be the deaf leopard drummer of if anybody could do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you, he is incredible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I'm pouring one out for Keith Jarrett's hand until such time as it recovers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's very sentimental, and we're wishing the best.
		If you get the chance to listen to one of his live albums, I want to transition into a less sad thought more of like why my brain is bad.
		I was thinking the whole time you were talking, we've had pianos for a very long time now.
		I can't imagine anyone's doing anything new with them.
		Fair.
		You're telling me about how great he is?
		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was like, I think we've done the piano steps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's start talking about numbers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many keys does a piano have?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		88, baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many different possible combinations of 88 over any number of measures are there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, some of them don't sound good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why you're looking for the good ones, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've had a lot of time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, just because there are an infinite number of possible combinations.
unidentified		You say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it's true.
unidentified		Yeah, I think I might be done with all music.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We did it, guys.
		Wrap it up.
		We got all the music we need.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, see, here's why my brain doesn't work again.
		You're like, let's talk numbers.
		I'm like, yeah, wait, we've done everything we can with numbers, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What about the set of infinite numbers?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm in a weird headspace.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A set of whole numbers is infinite.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
		We're talking about November 16th and 17th, 2020 of Dan.
		This is 2020.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sounds good.
unidentified		Whoa.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
unidentified		Holy shit.
unidentified		We're doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wow, you're really reaching into the picture.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We finally reached it.
		It's 11.
		This has been what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		11 months?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		100 episodes since you started doing Dan.
		This is 2020.
		I got to accept it sooner or later.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just how it's got to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes submission is what you need.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes you need to submit to the universe.
unidentified		It does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when the universe insists on saying this thing, I'm going to be honest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel a little bit like the end of 1984 with this bit here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just love the government now, Dan.
unidentified		Great.
unidentified		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is a stretch of time that I think is a little bit of a stopgap.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're talking about the beginning of this week, Monday and Tuesday.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's a reason.
		And our Monday episode will pick up on Wednesday and go through the rest of the week.
		And Everybody who's listened to this probably already knows Alex has gone down to Atlanta because there's a protesting to do.
		Yeah.
		And he's got to try and stop the steal.
		He's on his.
		And I kind of feel like that's an extension of the caravan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex went down to Georgia looking for an election to steal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what's happening here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I just hold on to that clock.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is going to Georgia and doing all this stuff.
		And I kind of, it's not obviously part of the caravan.
		And the caravan went through Atlanta on its way up to D.C. They've already just been there.
		But it's kind of, it kind of has the same spiritual energy of like InfoWars on the road.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a bit of a sequel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so Monday we'll have the sequel of Alex's Adventure in Atlanta.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is this interstitial period where Alex is back in Austin in studio and complaining a whole bunch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like Steve Coogan and Rob Bryden in the trip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll get down to business on this episode, but before we do, we got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So first, Gap Tooth Killer.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, GTK.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
		Next, Andrew G. Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Next, Andrew, were you about to say Andrew Dice Clay?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		WK.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I gotcha.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, another lunatic.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Another lunatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Bill and Virginia Warren.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Bill and Virginia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
		Next, Creator, and it's spelled C-R-E-8.
		H-E-R.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, creator.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
		Next, Dave, thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Dave.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Dave.
		You like a good Dave.
		Yeah, for sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sarah and Gary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you like the movie, Dave?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, not a fan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Had nothing to say in follow-up to that.
jeff in canada ▲ ● ▼		Nope, nope, we're good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Moving on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, Tiger High eats license plates and ChaiCom globalists.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
		We appreciate that very much.
		So Chris E., thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
		And Sarah McF.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
		Crikey, Mike.
		That's fantastic.
		Have yourself a burden.
		How's your 401k doing, bro?
		We got to go full-tailed buggy on this, Watson, all right?
		Let's just get down to business.
		We ain't making that money off that heroin.
		Why are you pimps so good?
		My neck is freakishly large.
		I declare info war on you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much, Chris.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And thank you so much, Sarah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show.
		I'd like to support these gents, too.
		You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show.
		We would appreciate it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, we would.
		Or what you could do, if you find yourself filled with a generous spirit and you need to express that, find your way over to a little device that has 88 keys on it and play one of the 10 approved songs that Dan allows.
		And then use that generous spirit to express music in a way that gets you to local charity or bail fund.
		I lost it a little bit at the end because of your bitter rage towards pianos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You think there's actually 10?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many would you bet?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Six.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Six?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, here's an auto-context drop from today's show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sounds good.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		God acts through math, and math tells us that the Democrats cheated.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is just logic.
		This makes sense.
		You can't refuse that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just real done with God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just real done with God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Acts through math.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this first clip where we start off the show, Alex, boy, he, I think on our last episode, he had to go off air or threatened to go off air twice.
unidentified		Indeed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's now switching it up and just going off air as soon as the show begins.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We have massive breaking news.
		I actually have to go off air here for a few minutes and talk to some insiders.
		I'll leave it at that.
		On how the Clintons are now stealing Georgia, preparing to criminally certify it, and how serious the situation is.
		But we have a path forward.
		First, I want to play a little bit of my speech yesterday.
		Again, I'm your host, Alex Jones.
		My speech from Saturday at the Million Trump March that now they're estimating may have had close to a million people editing the story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, they're not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, they're not estimating that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who is estimating that?
unidentified		Him?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They is doing a lot of work there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is getting this information that they're trying to steal Georgia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so as we know, by the end of this, Alex will head to Atlanta to meet up with Ali Alexander, who's doing the stop the steal thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're doing great stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I wanted to stop you before you started talking about Alex Georgia.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Because I've written a song.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry for stepping on your one of six songs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do think that this episode is not as good as I want it to be.
		There's not as much happening.
		Alex is kind of just talking about how Georgia needs to.
		It's on his mind.
		Yeah.
		Nicely.
		And now it needs to take it over and what have you.
		And so I thought as a bonus to the audience and to the people, I would write my own version of The Devil Went Down to Georgia.
		But about Alex and Ali Alexander.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you have accompaniment?
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to get a piano?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Certainly not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I might do some mouth sounds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		All right.
		I'll take that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex went down to Georgia.
		He was looking to stop the steal.
		His sales were down.
		His staff's a clown.
		And his situation is an ordeal.
		When he came across this young man spinning a yarn and spinning it hot, and Alex jumped up on top of his tank and said, Boy, let me tell you what.
		I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a bullshit artist too.
		And if you care to dare, I'd like to work with you.
		Now, you spin a mighty fine yarn, boy, but give the Texan his due.
		I need your skills to sell my pills, but I'm still better than you.
		The boy said, my name's Ali, and it might be unwise, but I'll join your scam to make some clams because I only have shameful allies.
		Meager was a little off.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I'm going to give that one to you.
		It's perfect so far.
		Just keep on rolling.
unidentified		Ali, rising up your theories and push your talking ports hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cause there's profit to make in Georgia and Alex is a blow hard.
unidentified		If this works, the money and renown are all yours.
		But if you don't, you'll end up working at InfoWars.
		Alex mumbled about his obsession with the unborn.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And fire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Might have to take that one from the top.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be honest with you.
		You just don't get this from other political podcasts.
		You just don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex mumbled about his obsession with the unborn.
		And fire flew from his fingertips when he gripped his tiny bullhorn.
		And he pushed the talk button and there was a static hiss.
		He'd forgotten to replace the batteries, so it sounded something like this.
		As Alex fumbled, Ali said, your tech problems are sad, old son.
		I know you have a million-dollar studio, but let me show you how it's done.
unidentified		Fraud in the votes, run, boys, run.
unidentified		All you have to do is say dumb and yon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pretend QAnon shit.
		It's all info.
		Is Roger Stowe pulling my strings?
		No, child.
unidentified		Alex got a I didn't think there was any way there was another verse.
unidentified		There's conclusions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sir, you are conclusion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your commitment to this is a story being told here.
unidentified		No, I'm with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex got a misty look in his eye because he knew he'd met a friend and he offered Ali his tiny bullhorn, handing it by the speaker end.
unidentified		Allie said, Can you call Larry Nichols about that congressional blackmail?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I done told you once, you son of a bitch, stop extending the Easter sale.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's someone put that to music.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Before the show, you were telling me, you know what, it's been real hard to do any kind of thinky work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You've been struggling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I realize that it's just been the song.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just been the song.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That took me maybe half an hour.
		Yeah, so someone put that to music.
		Alex went down to Georgia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Looking to stop the steal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		DJ Danerkey is going to turn that into an absolute thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I hope so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get number one on the billboard charts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the Democrats, they're trying to steal that election in Georgia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They already won it, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're going to steal it.
		And it better be, you know, it's Thursday apparently is the deadline.
		We're recording this on Thursday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I have been on the phone with people in the Trump campaign.
		I've been on the phone with a lot of different top political strategists.
		And for all intents and purposes, this election could be over for President Trump Thursday.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Last Thursday.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He'll still not leave office because the fraud is real, but it will give the perception that the election has been certified and it'll make the road towards the White House for the second Trump term and us taking our country back very, very hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That will make things more challenging.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The process continuing to move along as it's supposed to will make derailing the process more difficult.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My car being turned into a cube will make it difficult to drive from here on out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
		That is true.
		Having your wheels taken, it's a hindrance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Having my feet cut off will really make it harder to play football.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		So Alex is not the only one who's heading down to Georgia.
		Of course, Allie Alexander is going down there.
		Some other noted weirdos.
		But Alex thinks that everybody needs to go to Georgia.
		Sure.
		And I would like to just point out, again, I don't want to keep beating a dead horse, and I love that caravan.
		The caravan went to Georgia.
		Yes, it did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it was wildly successful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You already did that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		It was wildly successful.
		And so they need to do it again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You better start getting on the plane or in the car and heading to the capital of Georgia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can't remember what it is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's all unfolding right now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Already.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too many black people live there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because we can force the legislature to force the governor to order an emergency session and not certify it.
		The legislature must stand up now that the governor who works for the Clintons, not just his chief of staff, is the problem.
		That's coming up next segment.
		I got to refuel, though, here.
		We need funding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I find this unconvincing, uninteresting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm a little bit blown away by the level to which they're willing to embarrass themselves without.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about Rudy?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about the whole kitten caboo.
		They're all teaming up to make everything a sick joke.
		And it's weird me out because that suggests to me that we're going to have to escalate from sick joke to full-on military takeover or they're just going to, I don't know.
		He's not just going to go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You notice how I escalated.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wrote a parody song.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		He's not just going to go.
		It's not just going to go.
		So here we go.
		Let's ride this.
		I don't know why everyone's acting like we can just wait and he'll just go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that's one of the reasons why I'm really glad that our show is about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because at least I know he's full of shit.
		I don't know what's going on in terms of other places, and that's very scary to me.
		So I'd rather not have an opinion that people take too seriously on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I could be wrong.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I could misinterpret something.
		With Alex, totally fine saying he is full of shit.
		Full of shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Full of shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trying to get attention.
		and push extremist views.
		We can handle that.
		And then along the way, sometimes there's something really fun.
		Like, look, hey, it's always fun to write a parody song of The Devil Went Down in Georgia.
unidentified		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's been done a lot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot, because it's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Another thing that's fun is when Alex says things like this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Imagine a Doctor Who episode where the Daleks are always little robots rolling around like R2D2 saying exterminate.
		Exterminate.
		But instead they said, hello, my friend.
		I'm here to test you for the COVID.
		Oh, sorry.
		You've got it.
		You've got to go away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be a very different villain.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now they actually in Japan and Europe have Daleks.
		They look just like Daleks.
		Right out of Doctor Who.
		Whoever signed it, copied a Dalek.
unidentified		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they come up and stick a swab up your nose.
		And if you don't, an inner hatch opens up and a gun comes out.
		I'm kidding, it's all in the air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want one of those.
		I want one of those right now.
		I want a swab to gun transfer out of one barrel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I love that so much.
		All right, so there's this robot that's going around.
		And it's programmed, I guess, because he's not saying that someone's captaining this robot, I assume.
unidentified		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the robot comes up to you and it's supposed to swab you.
		And somehow it's in its programming that if you refuse, it shakes you down with a gun.
		It threatens you with a gun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Presumably not shooting you if you then agree to get the swab.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
		It's traditional carrot and stick.
		All right.
		Here's your swab or here's your gun.
		Turns out you're going to choose the swab in the end.
		It's very simple.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Carrot stick, swab, gun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all the same.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all the same thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would prefer a knife if it just switched from a swab to a knife and it's like, one of these is going up your nose today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These machines would be made by doctors who I assume would not prioritize gun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The head of the Mayo Clinic is a real gun nut.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we're developing this robot that's specifically to test people for COVID.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		To make guns?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To make it so people don't have to risk getting exposed to run tests.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like you didn't answer my only question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course it has guns.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, now we're in business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I will green light anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is amazing.
		It's in the news.
		I'm going to need a citation on this.
		I'm going to need a source.
		I looked it up.
		I could not find information on this.
		Although, I think what he's referring to is that there are robots that are used for COVID testing.
		Sure, yeah, yeah.
		In a number of countries, they've rolled out some models of these.
		I think he's combining that with there was a crowd control robot in China from like maybe last year that they were working on that would like give little shocks to people to try and corral them in different directions.
		Yeah, I think he's mixing up those two things, but the mental image is so funny.
		So if I take this swab, no, I will not.
		What about now?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, here's the thing.
		Here's the thing that tickles me the most.
		This is what tickles me the most.
		The inside hatch.
		The gun comes out.
		That's what it is.
		That's what it is.
		It's so great.
		It's so great.
unidentified		It's a perfectly hatch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Does it shoot out with a cartoon like spring?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
unidentified		Boy!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's got a robot hand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stick them up and then it takes your wallet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all right, i'm here for a showdown, so this has been the fun part of the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Meet me at high noon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now Alex gets into like what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh, you know his sort of Georgia storyline.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and this is the big story lawsuit.
		Georgia secretary of state signed an illegal deal with Democrats challenging how ballots are processed.
		A law going to be processed after and allowing mail-in ballots to be counted without actual proof or signatures being confirmed and it just goes on from there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is another classic case of Alex getting a Trump talking point that's factually incorrect and then it's spiraling out of control when he's recovering it into something else altogether.
		In this case, Trump tweeted about how Georgia was stealing the election and that there had been a consent decree by the Secretary of State that, quote, makes it impossible to check and match signatures on ballots and envelopes, etc.
		Trump went on to say, quote, they knew they were going to cheat, must expose real signatures.
		This dude's tweeting like a detective in a shitty noir film who's just been shot scrawling on a piece of paper must expose real signatures.
		Anyway, I have no idea how a consent decree would make it impossible for people to compare signatures, but I guess that's the best Trumps people can come up with to keep people like Alex busy and keep people funneling money into that stopping of steals.
unidentified		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In reality, according to the Associated Press, the state absolutely requires signatures to match.
		The issue comes down to this.
		Quote, a lawsuit by the Democratic Party, which led to the agreement, argued that minorities were disproportionately affected when they had their ballots rejected.
		Among other things, the settlement set steps for local election officials to notify a voter by phone, mail, or email in a timely fashion about problems with a signature.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are they really trying to tell me that a state governed by Kemp has not done enough voter suppression?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's an interesting angle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like he didn't win the election because it was free and fair, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Some have said that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, maybe if there were paper ballots, we might find out that the results might have been different.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It could be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is just another legal challenge that Trump's camp is making, trying to block the finalization of the election, but it's going to get thrown out just like all the others.
		The only thing I find really interesting here is the dynamic where Alex can't even really understand what the issue is.
		Alex thinks this has to do with deadlines and votes without signatures, but that's not the case.
		The legal challenge has to do with whether or not the Secretary of State had the authority to make the changes that were made, which were designed to create more oversight and better handling of signature matching.
		The suit doesn't seem to even take issue with the actual change that was made, just that it was allegedly made unilaterally and without proper approval, which is pretty deep in the weeds in terms of legal challenges to an election.
		I'm not surprised Alex doesn't know the details on this.
		I wouldn't expect him to, since being aware of how much of a Hail Mary this is would probably be bad for business.
		Can you imagine if that's the only thing that I believe that right before we started recording, this challenge got thrown out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe, if I understand the headline I just saw correctly, I believe this case has just died.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It got thrown out the moment the judge realized that it was written in colored pencil.
unidentified		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So can you imagine if that's what if all of a sudden they were like, oh, the Secretary of State didn't do it right, so Trump is president again?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not how it goes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not how it's going to work for anyone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't assume it would.
		So obviously, knowing that this is weak, Alex recommends the right course of action, which is investing in gun robots.
		I lied.
		It's not.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Everyone must go to the capital of Georgia now.
		And you must surround the governor's mansion now.
		I'm coming.
		I'll be there.
		And I'm bringing Roger Stone, and I'm bringing a bunch of other people.
		That's what I'm doing behind the scenes.
		And I'm calling the damn White House, and I'm telling Trump he needs to go and get on a freaking airplane and land at the Capitol, Georgia, and go into the governor's mansion and stop sitting there and letting his lawyers do it.
		We need to see people power, and this will do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's have Trump storm the governor's mansion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would look cool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think the only thing that would be better after.
		So that one is a great idea.
		We should definitely do that.
		And then I think everybody in the Senate should stab him once.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do love the idea that he's like, I'm coming to Georgia and I'm fucking bringing Roger Stone with me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want him to be like, and we're going to settle this election by single combat.
unidentified		Choose your champion for we have Roger Stone in this corner.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then the camera pans over and he's got a lampshade on his head.
unidentified		Complaining about Elliot Spitzer or some shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'll fight whoever you fucking want.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't give a shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will only fight if Elliot Spitzer's dad will come against me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where's Bongino?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Where's Bongino?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has a little guest on this episode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not a great sign.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, Enrique Tario is an awesome American.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that's not true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's the leader of the Proud Boys.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And he was there helping provide security in D.C. for us and did an incredible job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Enrique Tario, guy who's head of the Proud Boys, is on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Cool.
		See, this is the thing that I'm talking about.
		How is it that we have the juxtaposition of Rudy Giuliani melting like a fucking candle in front of us with Enrico Tario being like, what if we killed all the leftists?
		Like, you can't have both.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's what's interesting.
		Enrique Tario is clearly trying to learn a little bit about PR.
		Sure.
		Because he's doing some heavy lifting on this appearance, trying to give the, like, hey, we just like to hang out.
		You know, the Proud Boys, we're just like a drinking club.
		We just like to have a good time.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And hey, we don't just let anybody in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We do extensive background checks on people like Rufio Panman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Based stick man, did extensive background searches on it.
		Whatever the case, he's trying to make it look much more respectable.
		And Alex is actually the one who's kind of ruining it.
enrique tarrio ▲ ● ▼		You know, when somebody, when a man's down, I don't want to keep attacking him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		These are people that attack women and children, and then as soon as you let them up, they attack somebody else.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, once they assault somebody, I think a good some broken ropes will teach them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex seems to be the one who's pushing this towards even more extreme.
		And it seems like a nerd talking to a bully, like interviewing a bully.
		He's like, oh, isn't it fun how you kick their asses?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a good thing you're not bullying me.
unidentified		You're kicking those guys' asses.
		Yeah, it's great.
		That's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, when I beat people up, I kind of, you know, once they're down, it's kind of that's the end of the fight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, you should keep kicking them.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's very strange.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is kind of pushing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, what we're trying to do is just show that we're a group of normal people like everyone else.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we have our own political beliefs, but what we do is we get together and we just share community just like we do.
unidentified		I think you should kill people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Alex, we've gotten so much bad press, and a lot of our members turn out to be real crazy.
		Well, that's one word.
		Well, we do a lot of background checks, but apparently not on that kind of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They can name a fuck ton of cereals.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, here's the deal.
		We're trying not to do all that shit publicly.
		All this stuff about kicking people when they're down.
		We're trying to look different.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that the Oath Keepers and your buddy Stuart Rhodes kind of lean into that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to kill you stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're different.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex.
		Alex, buddy, there are two ways to go.
		We're going underground, my friend.
		We're going to survive, and then we'll kill people again in 10 years or four or whatever.
		We'll make it through this.
		We're not going to go out here all Nazi guns ablazing today.
		And Alex is like, what if we're Nazis?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think, if I had to guess, I think it's just like glass half full, half empty in terms of the DC rally.
		I think that Alex is trying to play it like half full.
		Like, we are going to take over the world.
		There was a million people there.
		Whereas Enrique Tario is probably like, yeah, it was a lot of people, but it wasn't that many.
		We can't take over the world with this many people.
unidentified		Not enough.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So maybe try and put on a face of respectability.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or invite General Petraeus and see if he'll do us a solid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boom.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is impressed that I don't know if this is actually true.
		I think it's not.
		But Alex thinks that no one has ever infiltrated the Proud Boys.
		I don't think that's true.
		But he has a theory as to why.
		And I think it's pretty fucking.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how you guys have kept your organization pretty much infiltration free and how you guys have done such a great organization.
		How do people get involved with Proud Boys and how are you keeping the organization infiltration free?
		I mean, I guess you look an antifo.
		They all look like devil-worshipping vampires.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't name them.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're total cowards.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I guess all you guys look pretty macho.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're too macho to infiltrate, you know?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, leftists are, we just can't look macho enough to infiltrate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Too much soy or something.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I think that Alex has a pretty consistent thread going of just like really gaslighting his audience about the crowd size.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's talking about like it's straight up, maybe even a million people there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Real tough to sell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then something even more tough happens.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Police estimated upwards of a million bigger than Louis Faircon's event.
		Incredible.
		We're getting Gavin McGinnis lined up dealing with some Skype issues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's a surprise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First of all, Skype issue is not a surprise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Second of all, not a surprise that now we're getting Gavin on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're really trying to infiltrate the Proud Boys, I guess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have this.
		I had this interesting experience while I was listening to this episode, and it was largely, oh, okay.
		We're just going to interview a bunch of people with Proud Boys and extremists.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not interested.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, who else wants to start a war?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want to start a war?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm not super interested except for just to say, like, yeah, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Gavin and Enrique are talking to Alex, and the whole conversation is largely about everyone's got to go to Georgia.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, okay, I think this is bad, but I also don't respect Gavin at all.
		No.
		He's not interesting.
		He's not funny.
		He doesn't say anything that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So are they trying to drum up support from the Proud Boys?
		Like, hey, we're focusing on the Proud Boys.
		The Proud Boys need to go to Atlanta.
		Is that like the idea here?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think they're just trying to show a stiff upper lip.
unidentified		Oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And sort of like, we're going to be.
		You can come to Atlanta because the Proud Boys will be there to fight with you in case shit goes bad or something.
		I think that that's kind of a lot of the message.
		Stop being a coward.
		They'll have your back.
		Right.
		So Alex asks Enrique to define the moment that they're in.
		He keeps doing this with people.
		Every single guest, he asks to define the moment.
		Okay.
		And then something very, very familiar happens.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Enrique Tario's taking over Proud Boys.
		Gavin McGinnis started as an idea to promote family and men and fraternity and unity for American men.
		And American men are under attack.
		But now the globals are so scared of it.
		You've gone through the fire.
		You've stood up at hundreds of Antifa events for freedom.
		You've defended so many people.
		would you call Enrique Tarrio this historic moment we're at right now?
unidentified		You guys want to put his mic on for him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead, Enrique Starlos.
enrique tarrio ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, that was my fault.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's our fault.
		It's your fault.
		Go ahead.
		We don't care.
		We love it.
		Technology back and forth.
unidentified		Go ahead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That happens multiple times.
		Guys, I think there's some mic muting issues.
		I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Gavin shows up, and we're not going to listen to too much of him because I find him insufferable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Odious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I just wanted to say that I'm thrilled that he's decided to give up.
unidentified		We proved it this weekend that we are on the side of what's right, and they are on the side of what's wrong.
unidentified		And if you can't see that now, I give up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Congratulations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Please, please give up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Didn't Gavin come on Alex's show like a year ago saying, fuck this.
		Yeah.
		We're done.
		Give up.
		What's the point?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nothing expresses, you know, just like leader more than any time you lose deciding to quit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Moody lash outs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how I want to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I admire it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		I do not.
		A lot of people would listen to that and say, I would die for that man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, fuck Gavin.
		Owen, Owen Shroyer, leader of the caravan, comes in, and they talk about their huge crowds.
		They had huge crowds.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Owen, you did the caravan through the south up to D.C.
		The police that we talked to estimated, because I was saying 200,000 that day because the police were saying 200,000 in one spot.
		Turns out that was three and a half miles.
		People going back to the beginning of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Three and a half miles.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're estimating 800 to 800,000 to a million people.
		And then Antifa attacking at night, getting their asses kicked.
		All of it.
		What would you describe this moment in history as?
unidentified		Well, from the images I've seen, sad?
unidentified		I think that this had more people in attendance than the Million Man March.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From the images I've seen of your caravan, I've done stand-up for larger crowds.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I was a failure.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Yep.
		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't care about relative size to the million man march either.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They seem really hung up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You really want to make sure that this march is better than other black people's marches.
		It seems like bigger than Louis Farrakhan's march.
		Why did you choose that one?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems like a sticking point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They brought it up a couple times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it seems very important to them that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would ask you, Jordan, how do you define the times?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do I define the times?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How do you define this moment that we're in?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would say pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is sad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would say pathetic.
		I would say that the human race has responded brilliantly and terribly at the same time to the point where, man, I'm really hoping we lose 98% of people and get the reefs back.
		Do you know what I'm saying?
		The 98% of Reefs lost, that's a tragedy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Owen has had a revelation lately.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This doesn't seem like a revelation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Seems like very similar to catchphrase of Ben Shapiro's kind of.
unidentified		Great.
unidentified		The Democrat Party politic is emotion over evidence.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		It's emotion over evidence.
unidentified		Same thing with the mainstream news.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		Emotion over evidence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We understand.
enrique tarrio ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we live in reality.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		A million people out there.
enrique tarrio ▲ ● ▼		Nobody got COVID.
enrique tarrio ▲ ● ▼		Nobody got sick.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		I'm riding back in the airplane.
enrique tarrio ▲ ● ▼		Everyone's fine laughing about the dumb mask thing.
enrique tarrio ▲ ● ▼		They almost kicked me off a plane for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we won't go into that.
		So it's far too soon to know what kind of effect that D.C. rally is going to have on COVID rates, but it's not too soon to discuss broader trends that we've seen from past events.
		If Trump's rallies throughout 2020 are any indication, Owen may have to eat those words in the future once data is available.
		A report released in October by the Center for American Progress said, quote, analysis by the Center for American Progress finds that about half of the president's 22 campaign rallies held between June and September were followed by county-level increase in COVID-19 cases, suggesting the events may have led to community spread.
		I don't have data on the recent rally, nor does anyone yet, but I mostly cut out that clip because I have a hunch that Owen's going to look pretty bad in hindsight, as will this.
unidentified		It's like crazy from like five blocks up to the Supreme Court, you're packed in like sardines.
unidentified		I mean, you can barely even breathe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Poor choice of words, I would say, there.
unidentified		Oh, Jesus.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we end the 16th and we jump into the 17th.
		And this was really strange at the beginning.
		First of all, Alex screws up his whole thing.
		This whole time period between the election and the inauguration.
		What is it?
		79 Days of Hell.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		79 Days of Hell.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a countdown.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Day after the election, 78 days of hell left.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex screws it up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Goes backwards on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It is now day 64 of the 79 days of hell.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Communist China and its new alarm allies are desperately trying to overthrow the election of President Trump.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand that it's an easy mistake to make, but no one cares about this except you.
		This is not caught on.
		It's not great.
unidentified		It's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one's going to remember 10 years from now.
		Oh, you remember the 79 days of hell?
		You're the one who's pushing this really hard.
		You have to actually get it right.
		You can't say we're on day 64 now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is a little bit of a bad thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is there only 15 days of hell left?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a little bit of, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is hell going to end on the 30th?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's trying to count down, but he messed up, dude.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Man, that's fine.
unidentified		It is fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's his baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
		There was a weird sound, and I don't mean like poor quality sound or anything.
		I really felt like Alex is, it sounded like he was reading a commercial at the beginning of this episode.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And now the mainline Republican Party has awoken to the truth of the new world order and world government.
		And Tucker Carlson is a fancier, more well-produced version of Infowars.
		Not because Tucker Carlson's copying yours truly, but because the world has awoken.
		Yes, the enemy's striking back hard.
		But my friends, when it comes to the culture war, when it comes to recognizing the UN and its true aim of world government depopulation, we are winning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So didn't that, I mean, that sounds like a promo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was a movie trailer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was LaFontaine all the way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I was really thrown by it because it just seemed like, what is going on?
		And then he goes to a couple pre-recorded reports.
		And I realized he just wasn't there.
		That was pretty recent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was repro.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex shows up 14 minutes into the episode.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us.
		I've got plenty of important stuff to cover.
		I don't normally start the broadcast with five minutes or six minutes of Tucker Carlson, but he knocked it out of the park.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, Alex shows up late.
		I guess he was getting more information about Georgia or something.
		Sure.
		There's an interesting dynamic that's going on.
		And I think that though Alex is crazy and all this stuff is nonsense, I think he's benefiting from QAnon quite a bit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because, you know, you'll remember the dynamic that existed in previous times between people like Fox News and Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.
		Alex Jones justified Glenn Beck being crazy because he's like, I'm not Alex Jones.
		Exactly.
		He was able to sanitize himself and make himself seem more palatable to a wider audience because he was a bullshit launderer.
		Yeah, and because there was someone he could be like, I'm not that guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm stepping on that guy in order to make myself look respectable.
		I think Alex now has QAnon to be like, I'm not QAnon.
		I'm not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not fair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a fair point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And because everything has just gotten so much worse in terms of public discourse and people filtering information, like, I think he's able to take advantage of people thinking that there's only one person who's wrong at any time or whatever.
		Now realizing QAnon and Alex can be wrong.
		Glenn Beck and Alex are both wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think QAnon stuff is going to become leaderless?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they're going to be like, eh, maybe we'll go back to Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Well, I don't know.
		I don't know what to predict of it, but I think that most of those people are too pilled to go back to Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too far gone to go back to the light stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think they would find it a little bit disappointing.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They would find it ungratifying.
		So even though Alex is late, starting the show 14 minutes in, or whatever, he did say that he has some important stuff to talk about.
		Of course.
		Now, generally, when he has important things to talk about, it's bizarre fantasies.
		Right.
		Notions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Things he's misremembering.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Half-baked anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And one of my favorite things is reporting Twitter comments as if they're news.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Another commenter on Twitter said, half the PM and the future head of the state of our country have been openly promoting the Globalist World Economic Forum, Great Reese Initiative, for months already.
		But I cannot find a single mainstream media article in Canada that has mentioned or discussed it because you're a slave.
		You're not supposed to see all that info.
		You're supposed to be preconditioned to the UN world government takeover slogans before you ever consciously understand what it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is really standard bullshit, but I think it highlights something that's really interesting within Alex and his rhetoric.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can easily find articles discussing the ideas presented by Klaus Schwab and references by name to, quote, the great reset in media going back to early this year after his book was published.
		Just a simple Google search shows that before July, there were articles in Vanity Fair, The Hill, the Financial Times, Forbes, and plenty of international outlets.
		This is the same thing as why aren't there any Muslim voices denouncing terrorism?
		You didn't look for it.
		You assume it's not there.
		And now you're making out a conspiracy out of the idea that you haven't found anything.
		There are plenty of people talking about these ideas.
		They were just not places you were interested in.
		They weren't in publications that you maybe normally read.
		The Hill is publicly available.
		It's there.
		These articles are there.
		If you wanted to, if you had any interest, that discussion's there.
		No one's hiding anything from you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can type questions into the Google search bar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So if he's giving you one of those rhetorical questions, like, how come no one's talking about this?
		You could type in like, how come no one's talking about this?
		And you would have to fill in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that what's going on is a misphrasing of what they believe or what they experience as the problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They want these ideas to be yelled on the front page of every paper.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is what they think they merit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so important.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		In the same way that all of Alex's conspiracies, whenever it's like the media is not covering X, Y, or Z, like there's an article about why you're wrong about this everywhere.
		You can find it if you want.
		They just want this, like the coverage.
		The same thing with like no one covers like Trump being good.
		And so you can find articles and publications about good things Trump's done.
		It's just that no one is bowing down and being like, oh, Trump, you're the king.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not covering it the way you want to.
		They're covering these ideas in a real-world way as opposed to your way.
		And because that isn't, your view isn't being shouted from the rooftops.
		It's experienced as a cover-up.
		And that's just not, that's not accurate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're not saying what I want them to say, so they're not covering it at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm not going to look for the articles that would prove my point wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's bad for business, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and the thing that's really sad about it is, like, I'm only talking about this phenomenon right now because Alex is reading someone's tweet.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Like, that's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there any bad take you can't find on Twitter?
		Like, you can find, like, that's the situation.
		That's the corollary to your lies about the piano.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bees are too good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait, I bet you could find that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bees are too good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for the environmental.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no oil executive somewhere who hasn't tweeted out, like, let's kill all the bees so I don't have to deal with flowers anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trying to think of a take that isn't on there.
unidentified		Candy sucks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, someone doesn't like candy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
		Definitely there.
		It's all there, man.
		It's all there.
		If you want to find a bad take, you just search it into Twitter.
		Somebody's bad.
		Of course it does.
		Do you know where air comes from?
		The sky.
		And your butt.
		Exactly.
		It comes out of people's butts.
		That's the only place air comes from.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, Ali Alexander shows up.
		And this clip is actually really interesting, too.
		Like, in the same way that last clip really demonstrated this sort of phenomenon of not looking for evidence and then claiming there's absence of evidence of something.
		This is another really interesting thing that Alex and his people do quite a bit.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		We're really appreciative of all the grassroots work out there, but stoptheseal.us features our coalition partners and we're always willing to work with anyone.
		Okay.
		Roger.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But there is a phenomenon where then people go get permits.
unidentified		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then they take over and then say it's their event.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We don't care about the event or our name.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We care about winning.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		We care about winning in the Electoral College and getting Donald Trump above 270.
		You know, I happen to be a strategist, so I'm working with all of these folks.
		Yeah, we did have a vendor who secured the permit and then decided, oh, well, Alex can't speak and this person can't speak and that person can't speak and then this shill should speak and this Rhino should speak and then made lies about the Trump family.
		And, you know, that's going to come out later.
		But, you know, we're not going to tolerate our movement being hijacked.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right.
		I mean, I talked to the White House.
		Trump, you did too.
		Trump was going to come until he found out these people were running it.
		So that's the reason these ladies are a problem.
unidentified		Right.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		And then in our Georgia event, I announced that they put out a flyer that they're going to Georgia and they had Georgia featured as a blue state and they misspelled Georgia.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		And so you and I were first to announce on our independent channels, we're marching to Georgia.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And again, it's not about, we don't give a damn about credit.
unidentified		Who cares about credits?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		These people come together.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like you really care about it.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		And then they do media and these disgusting freaks because, you know, they don't present well.
		Look at these disgusting freaks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're responsible for all about a stolen election.
		When Ellen Schroer got up to speak, he's saying four more years, Trump won the election.
		They tried to jerk him off the stage.
		They didn't even want us saying that he really won.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So what's going on is that Women for America First, that group got the petition or got the permit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they organized the actual event that had a list of speakers that didn't include people like Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, they organized the event.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there were a lot of people who also decided to descend on Washington at the same time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but party crashers don't organize the party.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, party crashers are actually more integral to the party than you're willing to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is no party without the crashers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't sound true, but I guess I have to believe you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't have any evidence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why isn't anybody talking about this kind of stuff, Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I find this fascinating because it's the same thing with like, okay, yeah, Freedom Works, Americans for Prosperity, Coke Money, Koch Funds, like AstroTurfed a ton of the Tea Party in its early days.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Alex glommed onto it and then accused them of taking his movement over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's exactly what he's doing here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's he's and they won't let them hijack their hijack, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's crashed this thing in D.C.
		And they rightfully probably are like, this is going to be tough to deal with.
		I understand maybe Alex speaking, but Alex's buddy, I don't know about this.
		And then they have the temerity to get on this show and accuse the people who are the actual organizers of stealing their events.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The balls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then to be like, they don't present well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just like Alex does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really want to have these clips available just whenever I'm just like, oh, women for Trump.
		And it's like, man, you guys don't get it.
		The moment you step out of line, you're no longer for Trump.
		You're just women to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		you know how they treat blank just women it's it it is kind of uh kind of shocking to see like so fast you You could not have organized that event, Alex.
		You could not have.
		We saw the caravan.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Saw what you were capable of.
		The combined work of a ton of grifters added to the population that came to DC.
		But the actual event and people having a reason to be there was done by the work of the people who you were impugning.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's why, like, if you're on the right, stop trying.
unidentified		Just stop it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Stop organizing these things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stop it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The people who want to come and get up there and yell and make you look bad and steal all your thunder are going to shit on you later.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're being used.
unidentified		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, these are my friends.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're not your friends.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is talking to Allie, and he wants to know why is Georgia so important.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, recap why Georgia is so key.
		Robert Barnes is there.
		Everybody that's smart has been told for weeks.
		You're absolutely right.
		The White House agrees.
		George is key.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How you doing there, buddy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we got a long pause here.
unidentified		Alex?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex, we lost you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex, this is Mission Command.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, wake up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ground controls have made you dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Weird.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So then it goes to commercial.
		I thought that was really strange.
		I mean, the feed just went out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know what happened there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't address it when they come back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too much fluke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But here's the thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that probably online that didn't happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I'm listening to it through the feed that goes to all of the radio stations that play Alex around the country.
		This is what's syndicated to shortwave, too.
		So whoever's listening, it just cut out.
		Which is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If that's an audience you care about, that certainly is not great.
unidentified		They could really fix these problems.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's doable.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's doable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Alex wants to know, where's Trump?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Where's Trump?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hiding Howard, he always was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Allie Alexander, tell me where Trump is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hate you guys.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you this question.
		Why aren't we seeing a lot of Trump?
		Because that's his bully pulpit power.
		He still has.
		Why has he been so we saw a tweeting and saying, I won the election yesterday.
		That's not enough.
		I mean, he should be in Georgia.
		He should be having rallies.
		I keep hearing he's going to have these rallies.
		When do those come?
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		So the rallies were going to come, and then there was a compromise reached inside the White House.
		So I'm just, this is my first time talking about it.
		And what they decided was until these cases start making their way through the courts, Trump does not want to position himself where the courts can hold a tweet against him or a rally against him.
		And so his tweets are very concentrated.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Counterpoint, Alex just said that he tweeted the other day that I won the election.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Democrats are everywhere declaring victory fraudulently, calling him a dictator, but he's afraid to speak out.
unidentified		Right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's ridiculous.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		And it is ridiculous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that sounds right.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		The courts held during the ban, the terrorism ban that was described as the Muslim ban, they held a tweet against him.
		DACA, they held a tweet against him.
		So Trump is trying to play the legal strategy smart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Counterpoint.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump tweeted, I won the election.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is a really smart strategy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Counterpoint.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump tweeted something about Antifa scum.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he seems to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your story doesn't hold water, Allie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, You can make up all the fantasy fiction that you want, but Trump is a giant, cowardly loser.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I see.
unidentified		No, Trump wants to get out there, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he wants to play golf.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		He wants to get out there.
		He wants to do his rallies.
		There's plans to do rallies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See?
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		In the meantime, stopthesteel.us.
		We will keep hosting rallies every state capital, your noon, your local time, until the Electoral College meets.
		And maybe after that, maybe after that.
		Maybe we never give this country back to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He keeps calling it the Electoral College, which is fun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't care.
		Who gives a shit?
		Yeah.
		But it's like this thing is like what he's doing is: hey, yeah, Trump wants to come out and say hi to the people.
		He wants to be the figurehead, but he can't be.
		He's got to play it smart because of the courts.
		So for now, it's just me.
		Here's my website.
unidentified		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fund us so we can have demonstrations at every state capitol and never give the country back, whatever that means.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, I get it, and I understand why everybody is like mocking this, and I get why people are writing so many op-eds and all this stuff.
		It's like, Trump can't do a coup, and this is just a grift and all that stuff.
		But it's like, this grift is going to run out.
		They don't just stop it when the grift runs out.
		They create a new grift.
		And whatever they need to do, whatever they need to do, they will do to continue that grift.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not a joke, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		It is primarily a scam that people like Alex and Allie are running.
		Sure.
		But the scam, if taken seriously, is super dangerous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Terrifying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in the past, when it's been a scam that's hurt civilians and normal people, you know, it's awful, and it is what it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But now it's a game where you could hurt the whole country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, the world.
		Yeah, it's too much.
		Now, I've had a theory for this whole time that Ali Alexander was working with Roger Stone on Stop the Steel.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it is the same name as Roger Stone's alleged poll watching organization from 2016.
		And I didn't need to actually do any further research on it.
		They just told me he was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's nice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ali Alexander, a great political analyst and also publisher, is here with us.
		He's been a tireless fighter with Roger Stone starting Start the Steel Affairs Go with Roger.
		And then Roger's handed the baton to him.
		Roger's going to be in Atlanta, Georgia tomorrow.
		I'm going to be there tonight.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I was right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is all connected.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If Alex is to be believed, which he's usually not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		True.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this seems like something that makes total sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's Roger's domain.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He licensed it.
		He registered it.
		And now he's taking his cut.
		I have no doubt he's taken a cut.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and here's the thing: if this is a conspiracy, all conspirators can be charged with every aspect of a crime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rico.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if Allie follows through with his plan, Roger might be in trouble.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Good.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to just leak out our plan, Alex.
		They've talked about doing, oh, we're going to elect Joe Biden and do a virtual inauguration.
		Good.
		Then Alex and I will fill the streets with 5 million Patriots.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And Trump will be there and we'll inaugurate the president.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		We'll inaugurate Donald Trump.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Democrats said they were going to do that and Trump won.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That they would just free up.
		Well, we're not going to.
		We're going to reconstitute it.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		You guys want to act as insurrectionists?
		Well, then we know how to deal with that.
		But we will bring tents.
		We will bring trucks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We will bring cars.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think now is the time after Georgia to start occupying D.C., period.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So apparently the plan is occupying D.C., which you're going to get bored of very quickly, Alex.
		You have no ability to run anything like this.
		Oh, no interest in anything that, especially once the cameras stop.
		Like, one of the things about those kind of occupations is that they get boring.
		After a while, people may cover it for a bit, and then there's long periods where there aren't cameras.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no attention, and you don't have, you're not built for that.
		So no, you're not going to do that.
		But assuming that you do, you're not going to get 5 million people to come to DC.
		No, that is not going to happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And let's imagine what's going to happen if you try and inaugurate a second president.
unidentified		No, that'll work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, Dark Pope.
		It'll be fine.
		We'll have two popes.
		Somebody will dig up Biden's remains and put him on trial.
		It'd be great.
		I'm just remembering my medieval warfare history.
		I don't remember people writing down, sieges were our favorite part.
		You know, that four months of waiting for supply lines to catch up, sitting there going hungry, not fighting anybody, just sitting there in a tent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Alex wants his listeners to do that while buying survival food from him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To keep rations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Alex will show up with a bullhorn every now and again and take credit for everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like medieval kings fighting a war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		And I just try and think about what in the real world would that look like?
		If Alex.
		I mean, first of all, it's a leap to imagine 5 million people would show up.
		So let's stipulate that 5 million do show up.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now they decide they're going to inaugurate Trump though he lost the election.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, what happens then?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I guess we divide up territories.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The mind reels.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Steve Pieczenik might get a job.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you.
		I'm just telling you, we just got to isolate him.
		We just got to isolate him.
		We give them all Alaska.
		It's the biggest state.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The old werewolf treatment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Take all of these, take all of them and say, you know what?
		We agree with everything you're doing.
		We love what's going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of resources in Alaska.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are going to say...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What about the good people of Alaska?
unidentified		You know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're starting a pilot program.
		We want to put your ideas into action, but we're not sure because they're not tried and tested yet.
		So we want to move all conservatives to Alaska and you guys just work it out there and then bring it back to us whenever you're ready.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel like this is not fair to the people who live in Alaska.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's true.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is definitely true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The moon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We'll give Alaskans Hawaii.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ooh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then we'll give Hawaii to Japan.
unidentified		Wait.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is going to get out of confusion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm trying to rebook everything and it's trouble.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's leave that aside for another day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex gets it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's been doing on this episode his Brian Stelter impression.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that one's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not a good impression.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That one's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, it's really funny because apparently it's not his.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Brian Schelter goes, there's no evidence and they have none and they shouldn't be on air.
		Don't go watch them because we have hours and hours of evidence a day.
		It's ridiculous.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		You know, Mark Dice would be proud of that impression.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I'm not saying Mark ripped me off.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's done a great job, but I was already doing it.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		I believe that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
		I don't either.
		Alex stole Brian Stelter impression from Mark Dice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The thing that always makes me feel like an alien to these people is what they laugh at.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Like, was that that funny?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What did you laugh at, Allie?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What did you laugh at?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Was it just that he did a voice?
		Think so.
		And if so, yeah, well, I mean, I think that that was one of the challenges of doing stand-up: first of all, not thinking the things that I said were that funny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a big challenge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And often the audience agreeing.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then, you know, things that I saw other people say that weren't all that funny and audiences thinking they were hilarious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, people have different senses of humor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no accounting for that.
unidentified		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's bewildering.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do agree with you that the stuff on InfoWars that is humorous to those folks who were on as guests.
		Yeah.
		I don't, I don't, it's worse than anything, most things that I've seen at comedy films.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it feels alien.
		It really does because in comedy, you know, you've seen every kind of, I've seen the gamut of people trying to be funny all across the board.
		And even they have nothing.
		There's nothing like this.
		This is just a series of people who only understand each other and laugh at these weird things that are just divorced from reality.
unidentified		Yeah, it's wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So much of comedy and so much of what you find funny is the ability to understand sort of shared perceptions or shared ideas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think once people have such fractured realities that they live in, it makes sense that humor wouldn't translate at all between them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's sad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How could you make a joke about the sunrising if they're like, we're never seeing the sun and it's dark all the time?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, it'd be tough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no shared point of commonality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Allie yells that he's signing his death warrant and he's going to fight this thing all the way to his grave.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		And so all of these guys, I'm so proud to be working with you, Alex, and you, Ed.
		We've got to rush the gates.
		We've got to be the barbarians that rush the gates in the castle, or we're all dead.
		It's really that simple.
		So I'm signing my death warrant.
		It's liberty or it's death.
		Alex, I think you're in the same boat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm way past.
		I'm total commitment.
		Every cell in my body is commanding me to take action.
		I'm not in control.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just remember when he got sued by Chabani and Alex said, I will fight this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will win or I will die.
unidentified		I will win.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then he settled a week later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm real sorry about that stuff that I did.
		I will win or die.
		You know what?
		Hey.
		Air of my ways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, Hamdi Ulakaya, I am so sorry that I said those things about you.
		Please don't sue me.
		Please don't sue me.
		Okay, Alex, whatever.
ali alexander ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Allie leaves.
		I guess he's got to head down to Georgia for Alex to meet him down there.
		Of course.
		And Alex takes some calls.
		And this is such a fucking performance on Alex's part.
		I believe that what's going on here is that Alex thinks that this caller is nuts and he doesn't want to talk to him.
		So he decides to pretend to be mad about something else.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Dave in Nevada, you're on the air, Dave.
unidentified		Yeah, so my topic is predictions on the coronal mass injection, brain ships, and the report.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you see, you know, we're not screening your call.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're actually on air live right now.
unidentified		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'll put you on hold.
		Put you on hold.
		Listen, I have a thing.
		I'll put you on hold.
		I have a thing about college.
		I love you to death.
		But I'm not other talk shows where I pre-screen you for an hour.
		Want to have you a clean phone?
		Don't tell us what you're calling in about a scrape.
		Once you get on air, you tell us what you want to cover.
		You don't have to ask permission, sir.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't.
		He was telling you what his topic was.
		Coronal ejection.
		His phone sounded fine compared to the callers that you generally have on this show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Real easy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he said he wants to talk about predicting coronal mass ejections, brain chips.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think Alex was like, I don't want to fucking talk to this dude.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to get mad at him for no reason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then it continues.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Once you get on air, you tell us what you want to cover.
		You don't have to ask permission, sir.
		If you ask for permission, I will hang up on you.
		That's the one rule is no censorship and no screening.
		Let's try again, Dave.
		I love you.
unidentified		Go ahead.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're a free man, brother.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Okay, this is going to sound like numerology, but uh.
unidentified		Okay!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You just asked for permission again, dude.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't do it.
unidentified		Just go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did not ask for permission again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was giving a caveat that this is going to sound like numerology, but.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was more a preamble than anything else.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was softening the numerology that was about to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is going to sound like numerology because it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But if I say this is going to sound like numerology, maybe you'll think it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe you'll think that I'm more of a rational actor in this whole thing.
		Yeah, Alex, I think, just is like, yeah, all right.
		I don't want to do this.
		I don't want to take whatever this guy's saying seriously, but, you know, whatever.
		I'll just get mad about my weird idea about anti-censorship of phone calls.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very strange.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, buddy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very strange.
		So Alex takes another call, and this guy wants you to not take a vaccine.
		And then, thankfully, Alex starts talking about his idea of this karma and the whole sort of thing about like you need the Globalists need to trick you into doing things for moral reasons, galactic law.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And mic down for this, because you might get a little confused because it's confusing.
		Fair.
		But this is perhaps the only thing that really fascinates me about Alex anymore.
		This idea of his bizarre ethical system.
unidentified		They can dial up the radiation.
		They can inject you with anything they want to.
		You got to make sure that you don't take anything that they're pushing out and don't feel like it's.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And here's the deal.
		They can spray it on you, but metaphysically they get the bad karma they believe from it.
		They need you to agree.
		They can pressure you, but they need you to agree so they don't get at least the instant karma.
		It's how the dimensions work.
		I don't understand it all.
		They know it's a law.
		So do I. You make somebody do something, you get instant karma.
		You get interdimensional karma when you die for sins, even if you manipulated the field or however it works.
		But they need to trick us to go along with it and at least acquiesce.
		That's their satanic operation.
		They need us, like in the garden, to agree to it.
		Does that make sense?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Not one bit.
		Nope.
		So if I understand correctly, instant karma isn't after you die.
		That is like now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's instant karma.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, but I don't think that history backs that up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What about all the monsters who died in their beds?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, but you missed out all the instant karma that did happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like they stubbed their toe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Instant karma.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that this works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think you're going to have a really tough time explaining how this system has ever operated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In human history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Especially if you go back to times when, like, feudal times.
		Sure.
		How did instant karma work back then?
		Well, when life was cheap in the dark ages.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		do you remember so there was a I can't remember but it was I can't remember if it was Roman or if it was not but I feel like in my head it's Roman the The metal bull.
		Do you remember the metal bull?
		The golden bull, and they would put a human being inside the bull and light the fire underneath it, making that person burn alive inside of the bull while the king.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Looks like you're talking about Game of Thrones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, this is not Game of Thrones.
		It's real.
		Okay.
		It's real.
		And that guy absolutely had diarrhea that night.
		And that's what happens.
		Instant karma, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's tough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's tough for me to wrap my head around this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, Alex seems to also be saying that even if you manipulate the system and get people to do things of their own volition, you'll still have bad sin karma after you die.
unidentified		Well, naturally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
		Haven't you seen the scoreboards that follow us around everywhere and sit on top of our left shoulder?
		Am I the only person who can see the scoreboard?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because this makes perfect sense to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You and Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you look at this scoreboard right over here, I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit worried about the real-world application of this moral system.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm a little bit worried about it.
		For one, if you believe this moral system, and then let's say you violate someone's free will, and then there's no instant karma.
		Oh, my God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I must not have violated their free will.
unidentified		Uh-oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This could teach you the wrong lesson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't instantly karma.
		So.
		Furthermore, here's the biggest issue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That kind of implies is that anything that you do, if God doesn't strike you down for doing it, it must be okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Until after when you find out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but then it's not like instant karma.
		It's just bad.
		It's just that bad.
unidentified		No, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whatever you did to somebody, they must have been fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or else God would have given you instant karma.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course he would.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the fact that you're still standing and don't have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think my biggest issue is that they can, quote, pressure you.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, what does that mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are the limits of pressure?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They can pressure you into agreeing with them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but they'll still be in trouble after they die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they have instant karma if they pressure you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So they can just torture you endlessly until you agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What if they send like with a gun and a little because I would say that's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why is Dalek Dalek pressure?
		Is Dalek pressure?
		I think that's the question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Alex is saying that it is, but it's absolutely not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If the globalists have to get you to agree to do things, Daleks with guns is not pressure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's force.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's pressure.
		No, it's just pressure.
		Now, if the gun actually kills the person, that's instant karma.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But as long as you're just pressuring them with the threat of shooting, the threat of the gun is not pressure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not instant karma, that's pressure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an inappropriate level of pressure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, that's why I don't like what he says pressure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it is debatable, you know, the whole idea of like, did I make you do something because I pointed a gun at you?
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, if I make you rob a store and I'm pointing a gun at you, are you morally culpable, or should you have gotten shot instead of...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
unidentified		Actually...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Actually, this is a stupid conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course, I forced you to do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, naturally.
		You got a gun on me.
		So the robot with gun is not pressure.
unidentified		That's force.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This moral system makes no sense, but I want Alex to talk about it for an hour.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, I think even a robot with a swab is maybe forced.
		A robot comes up to you with a swab?
		That's a little bit intimidating.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's weird.
		If there's no gun, it's no force.
		You could just then walk away from the robot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not Rosie the Maid robot from the Jetsons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if it's a Dalek, you can outrun it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Close out the door.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Daleks can fly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not these ones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		Not real ones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'll have to call Matt Smith and see what he can do about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, I just want Alex to do a fucking whole special episode about this weird moral system.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotta.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'd love him to do like a call-in show where people can ask him questions to refine some of these ideas.
unidentified		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want him to be able to get it.
unidentified		Because I think it would fall apart so fast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really want him to try and explain it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really do, because it is bononkers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now Alex takes another call and something happens that happens more than I would like to admit, and that is this caller tells Alex about a dream he had.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, of course.
unidentified		Thanks, sir.
jeff in canada ▲ ● ▼		I take my call, brother.
		Yes, sir.
		Alex, I just wanted to reiterate a dream I had approximately 16 years ago.
		A dream goes like this.
		I had crossed a gigantic cavern.
		I don't know how I crossed it.
		I didn't know where to go.
		And I laid down on my back.
		I looked up to heaven, and I saw a blue spiraling light.
		And this blue spiraling light turned into like a tornado.
		And out of that blue spiraling light, a dove formed, a blue dove.
		And I felt liquid love raindrops going entirely through me.
		And a voice like a trumpet spoke to me and said, a moment is only for a moment, but a moment lasts forever.
		And Alex, this is America's moment to stand up.
		If this moment is missed, this moment will pass forever.
		There's a shelf life on it.
		And kudos for you for going to Georgia today.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, you're right.
		It's a dimensional jump point where they've liquefied the energy field for the future.
		And we have to remold things now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What are those words?
		They've liquefied the jump gate.
		What are you talking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck off.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They liquefied the jump gate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I had a dream that I was skateboarding last night.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, this guy opens.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got to tell you about a dream I had 16 years ago.
unidentified		Please.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I was 17 years old.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, I love your dreams.
		You're my best friend.
		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you want to hear this dream.
		It's really incredible.
		No, no, no.
		So I had this dream, and there was this cat, and it was climbing up a tree.
		You know, like cats too.
		And then I saw this blinding light.
		And so did the cat.
		And you know the cat saw it because the light blinded the cat so much that it fell and it was holding on to the tree just by its bare paws.
		And a deep booming voice said, dude, was it like a trumpet?
		It was in there, kitty.
		And I just always hung on to that, Dad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a meaningful thing.
		It's a meaningful thing.
		I like the idea that some people are like going to maybe protest outside capitals and be like, the time is now.
		I mean, or else why would that guy who called Alex Jones' show have had that dream 16 years ago?
		That's ludicrous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just want to reiterate a dream I had 16 years ago.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the last sentence I want to hear anyone say ever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have to assume Alex in that moment was like, I'm so mad I freaked out at that caller earlier.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I should have freaked out at this guy first.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I should have saved the freak out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Blew it too soon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we have one last clip, and it's sort of an intro to our Monday episode.
unidentified		Well, I'm on my way, and I'm not the devil.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just a little bit, but I love Jesus.
		And so I'm on my way to Georgia.
		And I'm going to be with Roger Stone, Ollie Alexander, and so many others fighting the steel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very exciting.
		Join us Monday on Knowledge Fight as we discuss Caravanity Project Part 3.
		The Texan went down to Georgia.
		He was looking for stopped the steel.
		All right.
		Yeah, so I'm excited about that kind of.
		I'm excited about the idea of, like, I'm playing by my own rules.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, we're going to cover this show, but I think a bottle episode where we talk about his time in Georgia makes more sense than us covering Wednesday at the end of this episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, the caravan, perfect two-parter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Makes total sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And let me tell you something.
		I shout on a little bit.
		But that was a very well-written parody song.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was very well written.
		It was a good parody song.
		I will be genuine for this one moment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is very nice of you to say it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will admit, in hindsight, there were some meter problems.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There were a couple big ones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem whenever you write it out and you don't sing it perfectly in advance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I might have reread it.
		Anyway, I think that this was a little bit of a preamble episode in some ways.
		I feel like this was getting ready to go to Georgia.
		And it's this, he's just got back from D.C.
		And now he's about to leave again.
		There's this weird middle place where it's like, fuck, I don't know.
		I'm going to hang out with Ali Alexander and all the Proud Boys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a layover in the airport.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, kind of.
		But it's his home.
		Yeah.
		He is a nomad for the 79 days of hell.
		He is a man adrift, running around the country hither and yawn, trying to find attention wherever it might be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is going to have to do that, I guess.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That seems like what he's got to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will say, on the one hand, I'm glad it doesn't come off as desperate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
unidentified		I was being facetious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we'll be back on Monday, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We do have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You bet it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's at Knowledge underscore Fight, NatGoTobed Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are on Facebook.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are on Facebook.
		It's Alaska iTunes.
		And if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		We'll be back.
		But until then, I'm Neo.
		I'm Leo.
		I'm DZX Clerk.
		I'm Daryl Rundis.
		We accept all callers except for censored.
		I don't know how to do this one.
		I fucked up.
		Sorry.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas.
		You're on the air.
		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.

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