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Nov. 13, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
02:03:40
#502: Dan's Cara-Vanity Project Part 1

In #502: Dan’s Caravanity Project, Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dissect Infowars’ "Stop the Steel Caravan" stunt—launched Nov 9, 2020, with absurd claims like millions in D.C.—while mocking its logistical failures (e.g., Houston’s 100–150 attendees vs. Jones’ inflated projections). Roger Stone’s incoherent legal theories and Stuart Rhodes’ Oath Keepers threats underscore the caravan’s desperation, blending election denialism with violent rhetoric like "dirty secrets" and armed "protection." Alex Jones weaponizes conspiracy (e.g., falsely tying The Great Reset to police abolition) and bizarre attacks on BLM, even crowning himself "President Alexander Emmerich Jones of Texas," while guests like Steve Pieczenik peddle unfounded claims (e.g., CIA firings, Dec 14 Electoral College reversal). The episode reveals how fringe propaganda thrives on performative chaos, low turnout, and recycled misinformation—yet remains a dangerous spectacle. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 14:02
d
dan friesen
01:03:22
j
jordan holmes
26:59
o
owen shroyer
winn 06:39
Appearances
r
roger stone
r 01:47
s
steve pieczenik
01:27
s
stewart rhodes
00:40
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgeparty.com.
It's time to pray.
roger stone
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones
Shang, we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fighter.
roger stone
Dan and Jordan.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
unidentified
Riddler.
alex jones
Andy and Pansy.
unidentified
Andy and Pandy.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding it.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish-in-color.
I'm here to say I love your room.
roger stone
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like, sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Emmerick Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed, we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
roger stone
Quick question.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Now it is my turn to say that my bright spot is Assassin's Creed Valhalla.
So I've had a little bit of time to sit with the game.
And I'm very excited.
I'm excited, first of all, to be out of the snow now.
I've gotten to the point where I'm not just running a snowbank.
And that's nice.
But also that they brought back the homesteading aspect of Assassin's Creed 3 that I love so much.
Love the idea of just building up a little settlement and all that.
It was something I was really missing from the last two games.
I do enjoy that quite a bit.
jordan holmes
It's fantastic.
I love it so much.
dan friesen
I've enjoyed.
I still have obviously not played nearly as much as you, but I've enjoyed quite a bit of the things that they fixed.
I think they fixed a lot of things that were kind of little hurdles in the past ones.
And I appreciate that.
I think it's an improvement.
jordan holmes
It's very, very good.
unidentified
I enjoy it.
jordan holmes
I enjoy it immensely.
dan friesen
I look forward to dabbling around and playing it for the next very long time, probably.
jordan holmes
It's going to be an insane amount of time.
dan friesen
Seems like a very large.
jordan holmes
So the thing is, because I finished the audiobook and then it came out, I'm like out of all other work.
Like, this is my reward.
So I'm just putting hours upon hours into it.
dan friesen
That's good.
jordan holmes
And I swear to you, I don't think I've gotten out of the...
I still think the title card is coming.
dan friesen
You still think...
jordan holmes
That's how much.
Yeah, exactly.
It's big.
dan friesen
That's good, though, in terms of what the genre and the style of the game is.
That's what you came there for.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So it's your bright spot.
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is so.
No, no, no, no.
It is one Leslie Jones on the reboot of Supermarket Sweep.
It is fantastic.
dan friesen
This is the first time hearing about this.
jordan holmes
Delightful.
dan friesen
I didn't know that existed.
jordan holmes
No, it's so great.
Like, the old guy was fantastic.
You know, he was just that white guy who was five foot three.
dan friesen
And hosted the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Leslie Jones hosts the show exactly how I would host the show and watches the sweep exactly how I watch it.
dan friesen
Like incredibly seriously?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, like this.
Get the goddamn turkeys!
That is exactly what I would do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it's perfect.
dan friesen
That is great.
There's only two ways to go with it.
One is like that.
I think that's the better option.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But the other one is treat it like incredibly serious, just straight-faced like it's an athletic competition.
jordan holmes
Show bucket.
All right.
He's coming down the corner and he's taking that.
He's got the cup of coffee.
That's $300 already.
He's going to go back.
He's going to take the, yeah.
dan friesen
I think you could get, like, I think Andy Daly could do that really well.
But, like, it would be much more difficult to pull off in an entertaining, funny way.
That's awesome.
I didn't know that existed.
I used to love watching Supermarket Sweep when I would stay home from sick.
So sick.
jordan holmes
Every part of the show is better than what you remember.
dan friesen
That's great.
jordan holmes
Wesley is incredibly good.
dan friesen
Well, I'm thrilled to hear that.
Congratulations, Leslie Jones, and congratulations to all the people on the casting crew.
So, Jordan.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Today.
We are on our day off, and we're coming in.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Because we have to.
jordan holmes
There's a convoy, Dan.
dan friesen
Duty call.
And if I hadn't had to pour over as much stuff as I have to get this episode ready, I was going to surprise you by putting on a trucker cap.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was expecting something.
I was expecting to open with East Bound and Down.
dan friesen
Yeah, something, something.
No, no, no.
CW McCall.
Convoy.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right.
dan friesen
That's the song for truckers.
East Bound and Down is for people who wish they were truckers.
CW McCall is for the real.
jordan holmes
The real street.
I didn't realize we had hipster truckers now, too.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
All right.
So we have quite a bit of nonsense to go over over the span of November 9th to 11th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
Oh, God damn it.
dan friesen
And yeah, this has been fun for me.
I'll say that.
jordan holmes
All right, that's good.
dan friesen
I'm excited.
And I've decided that this series is going to have a name because Monday is the conclusion of it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because we don't know what happens because Alex hasn't gotten down to DC.
jordan holmes
He's not there yet.
dan friesen
And it would be legitimately impossible for me to cover everything by now.
So what I've done is I've broken it up into two chunks.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And we're calling this Dan's Caravanity Project.
jordan holmes
I'm going to have to take words away from you soon.
I'm just going to have to take them away from you.
I'm going to have to keep them.
And if you want to use them, you can ask me.
dan friesen
Well, see, I was thinking about it.
jordan holmes
And it was like a written request.
dan friesen
I was sitting there and I was like, this is kind of a vanity project from a Cara Vanity.
Cara Vanity project.
This is amazing.
Jordan's going to hate it.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah.
Even worse because I know how long it took you.
dan friesen
Who's going to, that was my second thought after coming up with it.
It's like, Jordan's going to be furious.
jordan holmes
No, it's fantastic.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to my Cara Vanity project in a moment.
Before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who signed up in our supporting show.
So first, ominous warning.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Ominous W. Someone heeded the call for ominous warning.
jordan holmes
He has indeed.
dan friesen
Next, Nate, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thanks, Nate.
alex jones
Thanks, Nate.
dan friesen
Next, Jesse G. That's Jesse with an I. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Jesse.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Phil T. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Phil.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Jeb P. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thanks, Jeb.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Jeb, exclamation point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, obviously, obviously.
dan friesen
Next, Elizabeth B. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Elizabeth.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Joshua H. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Joshua.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, The Conspiracy Grows Larger.
No last name given.
Chris, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Chris.
Welcome to the club.
dan friesen
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on elevated level, and we appreciate that very much.
So, Sailor Moon Spirit Sister Stephanie B. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crocky, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We got to go full-telt buggy on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare infall war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Sailor Moon, Spirit Sister, Stephanie Games.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show.
I'd like to support these gents, too.
You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
jordan holmes
What you can do is get yourself a big old cart, run it up and down the metaphorical grocery aisle.
Do not forget the turkeys.
Those are $100 each.
Make sure that you get what's on the shopping list this week.
That's an extra $250.
Dan, if you can't get the bear, you're going to want to get the triple bonus.
That's $300, Dan.
And take that all down to your local charity or bail fund and donate that.
dan friesen
Not bad.
Not bad.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Let me ask you this really quick about the new supermarket sweep.
Is it all the same stuff?
Has the same bonuses as the old one, or did they flip up what items you need to get?
jordan holmes
Yeah, they flipped up items.
dan friesen
But it's still coffee and turkeys are all like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, The spirit.
And now you also can toss in like thermoses and shit.
It's great.
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
I'm going to have to watch this myself.
jordan holmes
It's wonderful.
dan friesen
I'm going to have to get on this immediately.
jordan holmes
Do it.
Oh, episode over.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Hey, fuck the caravan.
So, Jordan, on our Wednesday episode, we learned of the new InfoWars plan to run a caravan from Austin, Texas down through the South, then upward along the East Coast, arriving on Friday in Washington, D.C.
The idea, I guess, is that the cavalry is coming.
You know, it's the troops that Trump needs to fight off the globalist menace.
But the actual reality is a little less noble, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'll sound right.
dan friesen
On an optics level, the goal is very obviously meant to provide Trump with an appearance that he could use to make claims that the people are demanding that he fight back against the election results because he lost.
This caravan is an attempt on the people's part to turn themselves into human props, which Trump can use to justify an authoritarian power grab.
On a deeper level, this is Alex attempting to pull off an outstanding, overly ambitious, and protracted publicity stunt.
He's hoping that sending dumb-dumb Owen Schroer out to barn store in the eastern side of the country will force the media to pay attention to them.
In his mind, Owen's going to pick up a couple hundred patriots in Austin, and by the time he reaches Houston, the number will be in the thousands.
And by the time they hit D.C., it'll be a mass of people that'll be impossible to ignore.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
This is not what's going to happen.
So failing that, he's hoping that people with big social media reaches will be unable to resist meming the fuck out a clips of Owen on the road, and he'll be able to drive some traffic that way.
The final thing that this stunt accomplishes is that it provides something with a drastic immediacy that can distract the audience from realizing that if anything Alex says means anything, no number of people showing up in DC is going to mean a damn thing.
Because Alex has already said that the globalists are going to kill everyone no matter what, and that even if Trump is successful, there's a plan B that the Patriots can't stop.
In this sense, the caravan serves as the shitty, shiny set of keys that Alex can jingle around to keep people from canceling auto ship.
jordan holmes
If at the end of the election Biden has won, we need to kill everyone and overthrow the United States government.
Biden just won.
We're going to go on a road trip.
dan friesen
Hold on.
unidentified
Hey!
Hold on.
dan friesen
We got 79 days of hell.
jordan holmes
I bought a URL.
The literal devil has won.
Let's get on the road.
unidentified
Hey.
jordan holmes
Caravan.
dan friesen
Look, we're already just bullshitting about the apocalypse and the devil.
Why not create our own tribulation?
jordan holmes
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
All that being said, I love this.
It's my favorite thing that Infowars has done in a long time, partially because it's so naked and transparent.
jordan holmes
Terrible.
dan friesen
If this ends up being anything notable, it'll be a collection of people whose various scams are in danger if Trump is out of office.
It could easily end up being like the Rocky Mountain rendezvous, but you replace the Nazis and white power groups with pill salesmen and YouTube commentators who just now realize that they've overplayed their hands and they're in way too deep.
On another level, this also scratches a very particular itch for me, and that's that I fucking love a road trip.
I love road trips so much that I've kind of fond memories of Tom Green's movie Road Trip.
Back when I was younger, me and my friends would often just embark on random trips for the sake of driving a couple hours or a day away to see what was there.
jordan holmes
Totally cool.
dan friesen
Sometimes there was a destination, but other times it was just the experience of being out on the road, seeing things that weren't part of our normal routine, which was the actual reward itself.
I loved that.
And it's one of the things that I feel is most missing from my adult life, and probably a big part of why I dream of getting an RV and wandering the country.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this caravan has been branded the Stop the Steel Caravan, and I cannot not pay all the attention in the world.
jordan holmes
Can they not have come up with a better name than Stop the Steel?
That's terrible.
dan friesen
Well, it is, but they're trying to piggyback this Stop the Steel momentum that people like Ali Alexander have been pushing for a little while.
jordan holmes
And I'm criticizing them for choosing that name as well.
dan friesen
Everyone's got to go all the way back.
jordan holmes
It's a terrible name.
dan friesen
Well, we got to go all the way back to 2016, the election, and the fake pool watching organization that Roger Stone started and got sued over.
jordan holmes
All the way.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a connection there, but I'm not sure what it is, and it's frustrating to me.
jordan holmes
Passing the torch.
dan friesen
An article from the Southern Poverty Law Center traced the current pushers of the term Stop the Steel, strangely, to be a number of new far-right folks who are connected to Roger Stone.
People like Jack Pasobic, Mike Cernovich, and Ali Alexander.
Their amplification of it reached other fringe figures like Michelle Malkin and Faith Goldie, and then even Trump's son Eric, who pushed the term onto a larger audience.
It's hard not to feel like all of this somehow still traces back to Stone, but I can't prove it.
It drives me nuts.
jordan holmes
He's everywhere.
dan friesen
It's important to recognize before we get too far into any of this that there are two threads to keep distinct, both of them which are branded Stop the Steel.
The first is a series of depressing protests that are being organized around the country.
Some of them may be organically started and organized, and some may be astro-turfed by Tea Party groups and right-wing money that wants the result of the protests, but definitely doesn't want to be associated with them.
That's really a smaller issue to me, what's organic and what's not.
And it's something that I think a great investigator will probably publish a piece about in about a year.
What's definitely true about these protests is that they're being amplified and pushed by this network of desperate Trump scammers.
The second thread is Alex's caravan, which is spiritually connected to these protests, but is also trying to selfishly profit off them as well.
Alex's publicity stunt is not about bringing more attention to these protests, and it's an attempt to take whatever energy these protests might generate and steal it to increase the spotlight on his tank with a huge Infowars logo on it.
jordan holmes
It's almost like this is a conference of scammers, and Alex is trying to scam them.
Yeah, it's totally like, maybe you have to scam them to get into the scam conference.
You know, it's like an entry.
dan friesen
Don't invite Alex to Conman Island.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This has been Alex's MO as it relates to protests for most of his career.
He just uses them to self-aggrandize himself, make the protest about him.
This is no different.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
That's why I'm treating Alex's caravan stunt as a separate thing from the protest, even though they're technically both part of the same desperation strategy that's being used by these doomed grifters.
It's simultaneously more simple and more complicated than the sad protests themselves.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I will say that as I'm preparing this episode, it does not look good or like the caravan has really set the world on fire if you judge by the number of views that the videos on banned.video have.
The kickoff video in Austin has about 137,000 views, but the drop-off from there is quite noticeable.
jordan holmes
Oh, is it?
dan friesen
Yes.
It doesn't feel like this is working out so far.
And that being said, I still would give anything to have been able to go along for the ride.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
I feel like I could have written my own fear and loathing long after the campaign trail 2020 if I would have been allowed to go.
But sadly, that will never be.
For now, the best I can do is this two-part series on our podcast about the tour Owen Schroyer is taking from Austin up to D.C. based on the information available to me from afar.
Since the timing is what it is, this is going to be part one, wherein we'll discuss what happened on the caravan tour between its launch on November 9th and then to the end of Alex's show on Wednesday, November 11th.
After that, we'll pick up on Monday's episode.
So we'll wrap things up with the Wednesday evening, Thursday, and then the event in D.C. Understood.
This is very, very stupid, and I fucking love it.
jordan holmes
It's incredible.
dan friesen
I love it so much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't.
I can't believe the main reason that you do a caravan is because you believe wholeheartedly that you're going to pick up momentum along the way.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, it's going to start as a small thing, and then it's going to snowball.
And you know before you even begin.
The moment they said caravan, I knew it was going to fizzle out in the way that a firework should fizzle, like an inverse firework.
You know, it's going to explode fizzily.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Don't get ahead of yourself with predictions.
Okay.
But, I mean, we'll see.
We'll see what all this goes down.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But before we do, here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
I am the president.
I am the president.
I am the 46th president.
dan friesen
Alex has declared himself the president.
That'll do it.
That's an indication of where he's at.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure CNN called it for him as well.
It was a real aberration on the polling night.
dan friesen
I'm not positive if David Knight had any caravan business on November 9th.
And I'll hopefully never know because I didn't listen to his show and I'm not going to.
So we start on November 9th on Alex's show.
And he's trying to keep spirits high.
There's still a chance Trump can win this thing.
alex jones
There is still a chance for Trump to win the election fairly and squarely.
But I was sitting in one of the offices this morning about 12 feet away from a trash can.
And I said, watch this.
And I threw a little Gatorade container and banked it off the wall in a file cabinet and into the trash.
jordan holmes
I am the president now.
alex jones
That's how Trump's got to get around this fraud.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
unidentified
That's how Trump's got to get around the fraud with a bag shot.
dan friesen
What he's trying to bank around is the law.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The law is a huger issue.
dan friesen
That's why you've got to do a bag shot instead of a straight ahead.
jordan holmes
Let's imagine the law as a wall.
Right.
Bank around it.
You cannot.
If we're going to build a wall, you can't do that.
All right.
dan friesen
Well, they can, and they will, if everyone bullhorns the White House.
unidentified
That'll do it.
alex jones
Call the White House.
Go bullhorn the White House.
Go bullhorn Mar-lago.
Trump's back and forth.
The point is, is let him know what's happening and what's unfolding.
And I can tell you that I can sit there and I can get on the phone with folks very close to the president or the president if I need to.
I don't have a day or two to sit there by the telephone.
Many times they've called, I've missed the calls.
I missed some of the calls already the last few days.
I cannot sit by the telephone for a call from Trump.
I cannot sit by the telephone to do this.
It makes me sick.
I take a nap or I'm on the air.
jordan holmes
Boom.
alex jones
I miss the phone call.
dan friesen
Every time I nap, Trump calls.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck when I nap when they call it.
No, what happens is every time I go to call him, he's in the middle of calling me and then the line is busy, Dan.
Yeah, man.
dan friesen
I don't think this is a good angle because Alex has already said multiple times that he and Trump are literally psychically connected.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So I really don't think they understand that his advice essentially bully your fearless leader into taking over as a dictator.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, that's really what it seems like.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
That seems like what their whole thing is now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Be a bully to a guy that we think is unbullyable, even though we obviously know if we just bitch at him, apparently he'll do whatever we want.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, and that's kind of the premise of the caravan as a whole is like that is directed at Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's not really for us.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
unidentified
The caravan isn't really even to support Trump.
dan friesen
It's to yell at Trump.
jordan holmes
It's not to bully him.
unidentified
It's to give him one last chance to be a fucking dictator already.
dan friesen
That's kind of the idea.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a real depressing thought.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
In all ways.
dan friesen
Yeah.
In conception and execution, it's very bad.
jordan holmes
Every part of it.
dan friesen
I love that Alex is saying, like, I take this nap and then I miss Trump's call.
And recently we've seen that Alex thinks that he gets prophetic visions and naps.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
So, I mean, you got to choose one or the other.
jordan holmes
Did he get the call in the nap?
dan friesen
He might have.
That's possible.
That would explain everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, everyone else in the world is too dumb to see what Alex can see.
Everything is so clear to him, and you fucking idiots just won't get to get it together.
And so America will probably burn.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
I mean, I really feel like I'm on the planet of morons here.
And I'm not saying that in the elitist way.
I mean, we know their exact next moves.
They're going to call 25th Amendment.
They're going to say all the deaths are Trump's fault.
They're going to say while he's president-elect running his fake task force, Biden, that Trump's got to do what he's saying or the deaths are in his hands to make himself look legitimate.
Trump cannot assault the statements Biden makes.
He has to assault the whole fraud of the scam and lay it all out in damn White House addresses.
And it's over for these maggots.
But everyone wants to argue every facet of the scam instead of the entire enchilada of the fact that it's bad.
It's like arguing strategies with the former Soviet Union instead of looking at the Soviet Union being run by evil people.
And look, if we don't get the funds to fund this place, I don't care.
I'm ready to shut this down.
If America wants to lose and go down the tubes and burn in hell, that's fine.
dan friesen
Sounds like a great patriot.
Sounds like a guy who loves America so much.
jordan holmes
I'll stand with America no matter what, or I'll throw a little tantrum and say you should all die.
dan friesen
And you can all burn if I can't pay rent on my gigantic studio.
jordan holmes
I'm so patriotic in this.
You cannot help me live in million-dollar homes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I just hope you all burn to death.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, this republic is based on the blood of patriots.
And I'll stand up for it as long as I'm making a dollar off.
Absolutely.
But after that, it can burn.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
No, no.
If I'm broke, you guys can all burn to hell.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has this strange thing going on about how he can't get a hold of Trump.
And I just can't sit by the phone all the time.
alex jones
I've been airing a lot of tapes today because I'm officially choking on here at this point.
And it's not because I can't handle the threat of the globalist, but I love my crew.
It's that we're all stressed out and we're all over the edge.
And a lot of the crews being more professional than I am.
Some of the crews being as big as a jerk as I am.
I know exactly their damn game plan.
I know how to beat them.
And then I'm telling myself, I could probably do more good.
The audience is great on the phone.
I need to go in my office and beg and then get a hold of Don Jr. and then get the president on the phone and then hope he listens to me about this stuff.
And there's nothing more frustrating than missing phone calls from the president.
And I'm just sick of it all.
I'm sick of it.
dan friesen
Wow.
It seems like what he's describing is that the normal way he gets a hold of anybody is to beg somebody to get a hold of Don Jr.
jordan holmes
It does seem like that's the only way to get there.
dan friesen
So that's not great on its face.
jordan holmes
Seems like all of Don Jr.'s handlers are doing a lot to keep Alex Jones from getting anything.
dan friesen
Maybe, maybe.
jordan holmes
They're all like, Don Jr. will believe any old bullshit Alex says.
Please don't get him anywhere near there.
It's going to blow back on us.
He's an idiot.
dan friesen
All right.
There's a feeling of that.
And Alex is really mad.
He is very mad.
jordan holmes
Of course he is.
dan friesen
So he's got to get Owen into studio.
Owen's got to come in to discuss the launch of the caravan.
jordan holmes
I thought Owen's already on the caravan.
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
He's not on the list.
dan friesen
He leaves the evening of the night.
jordan holmes
The evening of the night.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Okay.
The first stop is Austin at 5 on the 9th.
So he's still there to be in studio.
And what they do is basically what we were already talking about, about this whole idea of going to Washington.
It's a threat to Trump.
They are saying basically, we will stop supporting you, and we're the only people who support you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
You got nobody left.
alex jones
Man, I'm more behind Trump now than ever.
What about you, Owen?
owen shroyer
Yeah, and I'm going to be more behind him for the next, I guess, 72 days.
And he better rise to the occasion in the next 72 days and save this republic, or his name is going to be not the gold emblem on the side of his buildings and his airplanes.
alex jones
It's sad Trump is going to be the new S-H-I-T-word.
By the way, did we not call it the 72 Days, the 79 Days of Hell?
dan friesen
Ha ha, good branding.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah, so they're just saying that like, hey, if you don't do what we say, we will abandon you.
And basically, you see these scam dudes who are going to show up in D.C., you know, like me, Brandon Stracha, James Posobic, you know, like our Jack Poseobic, you know, us?
We're the only people who give a shit anymore.
jordan holmes
If we're the Ocean's 11 taking down fucking everybody who got in the way, we will stop arguing with everybody who's accurately describing your actions.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Why in God's name would you think he's going to step up and be the leader now?
Did you really convince yourself that all you need to do to step up and be a leader is be a belligerent asshole on TV?
That's it?
dan friesen
I think that's all he needed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that is what Alex is.
jordan holmes
That's really what they think.
dan friesen
He fancies himself a leader and he's done very little else.
unidentified
Oh, that's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has a little bit of an inflated sense of what could come from this caravan.
I'll say it might be a little bit...
jordan holmes
Are they going to reveal that the whole thing was actually a sting operation through this caravan?
dan friesen
They're not.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
The convoy is going to go pretty slow.
It's going to stop a few times a day so you can meet up with it.
But if tens of thousands of cars join us and the truckers shut down D.C. like they're already saying, and we use this as a focal point to get other caravans going to D.C. this Saturday and to hit this Friday, it's going to change the world.
So now's the time to take action, ladies and gentlemen.
It leaves at 5.30 today.
dan friesen
I don't know if you're going to get hundreds of thousands of cars and get truckers to shut down D.C., but good luck.
unidentified
No, no, no.
I doubt it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Man.
dan friesen
From what I've seen, that might be a little high, just a little bit high.
Unless a person can drive a couple thousand cars themselves.
jordan holmes
I really feel like what's going to change the world is that massive scoop Owen has about how this entire election has been a sting operation.
dan friesen
He does have a scoop.
jordan holmes
He's got a huge scoop on this.
dan friesen
Has he recanted this?
jordan holmes
I feel like he needs to just really hammer this home because it's obviously the biggest story of the century.
dan friesen
It would be.
He said it was the biggest news since the election.
jordan holmes
He did.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has got, you know, he's got to pay the bills.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He's just straight up reading ad copy.
Like he's not even committed to doing like pivots or anything.
alex jones
All right, folks, I'm wound up.
I'm crazy.
Oh, Troyer's here with us.
Riding shotgun.
I'm just going to read this to you because it's the truth.
And I'm going to ask as an American patriot, as somebody that's going to stand in the gap for you and your family against what's coming down, that you support us.
I'm going to read this to you right now because I'm pouring out all the money we've got to run these operations.
America in crisis, emergency lockdown two is coming.
Support InfoWars in the fight against total economic collapse and Biden martial law.
The skies is locked down too, up to 60% off, plus free shipping and triple patriot points on everything.
dan friesen
That's a big sale.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a real great, great read.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a great read.
dan friesen
A big sale, though, man.
He talks about this a lot.
He's like, I need to get rid of everything.
He's got to get rid of everything.
jordan holmes
He's got to pay for the gas for this caravan.
dan friesen
Yeah, it can't be cheap.
jordan holmes
It's not cheap.
dan friesen
No, he's at least two vehicles out there.
That tank looks like a gas gun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
God, I can't even imagine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he's running this sale where everything's 60% off free shipping, triple patriot points.
He's done pretty similarly extreme sales and talked about how he needs to sell everything pretty regularly.
And so that's why this clip is kind of funny.
alex jones
So I had like, you know, epoch times calling up.
Is it true you're going bankrupt?
No.
Family.
Hey, I hear you going out of business.
Crew members.
I had a few people quit.
They're like, well, you're going out of business.
You know, I'm going to go work for the Blaze or whatever.
Fine.
I don't care as long as you're doing your job.
I love you.
dan friesen
So, I mean, like, Alex is the one who keeps acting like he's going out of business and saying we can't afford to stay in business.
jordan holmes
Pretty much non-stop.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know.
I can see where people would get that idea.
jordan holmes
I mean, literally saying, I've got about a year left of this and then I'm going to retire.
Maybe a year left of this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, that was two years ago, so who knows?
dan friesen
He does do this a lot.
And then in terms of employees going and working somewhere else, I would too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
He's constantly said on air that he's going to have to fire people and he can't afford to pay salaries.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
If I heard that from my boss on air, I wouldn't risk it.
jordan holmes
If I heard it one time, even if I knew on air, he's a lying piece of shit.
I'd be like, just, it's still in there.
dan friesen
Why take it in there?
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Why take the chance that he's not full of shit this time?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
alex jones
Totally.
dan friesen
Leaving you without a job out of nowhere as opposed to like, I'll go find some place.
Like, fuck Glenn Beck, but I bet he has a better work environment.
Totally.
Yeah.
I have to assume.
jordan holmes
I get yelled at every time because I'm 14 and I don't know how to pull up a clip, goddammit.
I'm 14.
dan friesen
So Alex believes, or at least is pretending to believe, that he is actually responsible for Trump not conceding.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
owen shroyer
And he wants to see if the American people really are ready to fight for this country and have his back, too.
I think there's an element of that.
alex jones
Because if he sees millions in D.C., well, you notice that the White House told me, as soon as they saw us, no, I don't take the credit.
As soon as they saw everybody around the country mobilizing, they said, that's it.
Trump told all of them, screw you, I'm doing it because they specifically mentioned Austin was the last straw.
They were seeing that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so they saw all these people getting together in Austin and they're like, that's the last straw.
We're not conceding.
We're going to fight this thing.
jordan holmes
I saw people get together in Austin.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Yep.
The Texan is out.
jordan holmes
Yep.
All right.
dan friesen
Trump has an advisor come up to him and is like, Mr. President, the Texan is in play.
He's been unleashed.
jordan holmes
He's been unleashed.
dan friesen
So they talk a little bit about what people are afraid of, and I kind of agree with him.
alex jones
He's going to go right to the fraud, right to Joe with nobody, how Joe's a ChiCom agent, how he's illegitimate, and how America won't accept it and call America out.
That's what they're fearing.
Is Trump calling us out to action?
dan friesen
I don't agree with anything that he said except for, yes, I think people are very much afraid.
Yeah, Trump calling people like you and your crazy friends into action.
jordan holmes
Because that would very much cause people to die immediately.
Yeah.
Very immediately.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Pretty much instantly.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would be bad.
jordan holmes
If he just said on TV, I'm calling on patriots to take over this country.
dan friesen
Take action.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're fucked.
We're going to die.
dan friesen
They would see that as like a green light.
Totally.
jordan holmes
Straight up non-stop mass murder.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex in this next clip gives you a reason to think he's going out of business, which I don't know why he was confused about it earlier.
alex jones
We have a responsibility to stay on air.
Plus, we have products you already need, but it takes money to do it.
And we're not bringing in the capital we need right now to keep operating.
So I'm launching what I did two months ago that brought in some capital.
dan friesen
Last time we didn't have enough capital to keep going.
jordan holmes
Wow.
That's almost like he's like, why would you leave?
I've been in this situation so many times.
I'll figure out a way to pay you eventually.
Come on.
dan friesen
It strikes me as like, and I'm guilty of this too, like being like, yeah, maybe this is the time that he's actually completely fucked on the money stuff.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And I'm so sort of desensitized to it now that like the time that he is actually fucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I probably will just think like, ah, yeah, sure you are.
jordan holmes
He's doing it again.
dan friesen
Sure you are.
jordan holmes
All right, whatever.
dan friesen
So we get to an actual bit of information here.
And this is about the vaccine candidate that Pfizer has released information about.
jordan holmes
I bet it's true.
dan friesen
Boy, Alex doesn't know shit about this.
jordan holmes
That's not a surprise.
alex jones
Dow Rowley's 1,100 points.
It's up more.
That was this morning.
Spoke the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
Hits record as Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine is more than 90% effective.
And cue up that clip, though.
I think it's on the list here.
Governor Cuomo came out and said, I don't care what he says.
It's not safe because they want the lockdown to continue.
I'm not endorsing the vaccine.
Trump got Pfizer and others to actually put out a real attenuated version of the virus, not an mRNA vaccine that changes your DNA.
That's even worse.
To, again, take control of the fear, get people not to be in fear, to have a solution.
dan friesen
This vaccine that was created by Pfizer was not done because Trump wanted to undercut Bill Gates and all that shit.
That's silly.
And the Gates Foundation has given vaccine-related grants to Pfizer in the past.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course.
dan friesen
They have a good working relationship.
Naturally.
Also, when the news about the vaccine broke, Trump whined like a baby and claimed that the vaccine was withheld so he wouldn't have a win during his term.
They waited until after the election to bring out this news, which is kind of fucking stupid because he's still president until January, so it's still his term.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
Pfizer released a pretty scathing statement about how they don't care about politics and they're more concerned with the global emergency.
jordan holmes
What about it?
dan friesen
Trump thinks that the release of this vaccine is meant to make him look bad.
So I think that maybe he and Alex have different talking points on this one.
Further, Alex has no idea what he's talking about.
The vaccine being announced by Pfizer is an mRNA vaccine.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
This vaccine that Alex is claiming is the alternative to Gates' evil mRNA vaccine is the exact same type of vaccine.
He has literally no grasp of the subjects he's covering, and he just makes this shit up as he goes along.
It's embarrassing.
jordan holmes
I'm just more interested in what does he want?
What do you want?
Oh, see, Trump created this vaccine in order to control fear, and they don't want to give you the vaccine because they want the lockdowns to continue.
Now, I don't want to give you the vaccine because I think vaccines are evil, but they are doing this to make Trump look.
What do you positively want?
What would you prefer happened?
dan friesen
No one vaccine ever.
jordan holmes
And then what?
dan friesen
Crush doctors.
jordan holmes
But then people would still blame Trump for them.
dan friesen
Kill scientists.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, that actually does sound right.
dan friesen
It's devilry.
jordan holmes
That does sound right.
dan friesen
It's witchcraft.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's witchcraft.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
I forgot.
I should have started from the assumption that it's all witchcraft.
dan friesen
So Alex is mad because Cuomo doesn't want people taking this vaccine.
I guess.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Guys found it like a minute without me even asking.
The clip of Cuomo saying, oh, don't take Trump's vaccine because they want the fear to keep going when you get their mRNA vaccine.
That's like being shot by a BB gun versus being shot by a 12-gauge shot down a double lock buck.
I'm not saying take the vaccine.
I'm not saying take the regular Pfizer attenuated where they microwave or radiate a coronavirus and your body learns how to beat it.
It can still cause an autoimmune problem.
It can still be contaminated.
It still got liability protection.
I still won't take over my dead body.
dan friesen
See, this is where it would help Alex to know what he's talking about.
He's saying that Governor Cuomo doesn't want people to take the Pfizer vaccine because what he really wants is for everyone to get his much more dangerous and deadly mRNA vaccine that'll come out later, thanks to Bill Gates.
The normal attenuated vaccine is bad, but Cuomo wants to hurt people more, so he insists they wait until an mRNA one is ready.
jordan holmes
Great plan.
dan friesen
That's a fun story to tell dum-dums, but it really doesn't make sense when you realize that the Pfizer vaccine is an mRNA vaccine.
If you know that, then Alex is just saying that Cuomo doesn't want you to take an mRNA vaccine because he wants you to wait until there's an mRNA vaccine ready.
It's nonsensical.
Alex needs to try harder because this is just embarrassingly sloppy.
There's not even a conspiracy to unravel here.
It's just an instance where he clearly is making up details about this Pfizer vaccine because he knows nothing about it.
And it would severely hurt his ability to support Trump if he had to explain why Trump was trying to take credit for an mRNA vaccine, something that he specifically and repeatedly has said is going to kill everyone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is the time for him to stand up and really be the leader that they need right now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, let's remember that this vaccine that's being touted by Pfizer, they're saying that it has a 90% success rate, but that's not been validated by peer-reviewed study yet.
And it's way too early to scream from the rooftops that this is the answer to the prayer.
It's promising, and I do hope that things continue to look good.
It's kind of a sticky situation, and someone like Cuomo is in an unfortunate position to have to be, you know, the person who has something to say about this potential vaccine.
jordan holmes
A leader.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's not even available, and he's already being called out for not wanting to give it to people yet, you know?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is really just the way that anti-vax people flip the narrative when they know that they can't really argue the vaccine anymore.
Their game of being staunchly opposed to any and all vaccine is great when there isn't an actual vaccine candidate.
Once there is, they know that opposing the release and distribution of that vaccine is tantamount to them saying that they support the continuing deaths of thousands each week from COVID-19.
jordan holmes
It's really hard to defend that one in a conversation.
dan friesen
And most of them, particularly the ones who are media grifters, know that they can't be successful trying to publicly argue that position and it will hurt their bottom line.
So you see what someone like Alex does.
He lies about how this vaccine from Pfizer is one of the less dangerous ones and pretends that there's a conspiracy against Trump among anyone who would say like, hey, maybe it's premature to widely release this one.
Still need some more tests on it.
jordan holmes
It's all garbled.
It's garbled.
dan friesen
It's nonsensical because the point isn't the point.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you think that there's something about this that's like the vaccine is actually relevant to the argument that's happening, that's why you get confused.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
That's the issue.
jordan holmes
No, it's just a bunch of shit spinning around in the fucking toilet as it spirals down into our collective sadness.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a poetic way to put it.
Did you read that in Assassin's Creek Film Hall?
You find that on a scroll or something?
jordan holmes
I think I found that on a scroll, yeah.
dan friesen
So we're done with the 9th.
His show is not good.
It is what it is.
Not nearly enough caravans.
jordan holmes
That's the only thing I'm interested in.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So we get into now the videos that Owen has released for the Caravan.
Excellent.
I'm sorry, on the 9th, on November 9th, Owen sits down and he breaks down what the trip is going to look like.
jordan holmes
Good God.
dan friesen
Here is the itinerary.
owen shroyer
I can't wait.
This is a map.
And on this map, you're going to see little roadways.
Oh, see, beautiful.
Okay, so we are launching the Stop the Steel caravan, and it is going to be launching from Austin, Texas, right here tonight at 5 p.m.
And what we're going to do is we're going to drive right down here into Houston, where we're going to have our first stop tonight at 8 p.m.
Then we got a long drive ahead of us, and we're going to go all the way here through Louisiana.
We may make a stop maybe in Lafayette or something, link up with some people through Mississippi.
all the way through here down to Florida into Tallahassee.
This is where we will be on Tuesday evening.
dan friesen
First of all, this is a severe schedule.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex said they were going to go slow.
You heard that?
He said they're going to carry out.
jordan holmes
This is brutal.
dan friesen
They're talking about getting from Austin to Tallahassee in basically a day's time.
If they're leaving Austin at 5 p.m., they should have no problem getting to Houston by 8.
It's about a two and a half hour drive, so I would guess that shouldn't be an issue.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The next leg of the trip is a concern.
Owen seems to be a little loose on the details, but according to his itinerary, which they've posted online, they're set to be in Baton Rouge, Louisiana by 11 a.m. on Tuesday.
It's good that they didn't choose New Orleans, since that would have been an extra hour to add on to the drive.
But still, this is a four-hour drive.
Assuming that they get to Houston on time, then they have a rally.
Are they going to stay the night in Houston?
They could probably pull that off.
So let's say that they have a two-hour rally, then go to bed, get up, and get on the road by seven.
Then they could make it to Baton Rouge by 11.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Then they got to have a Louisiana rally and then get to Tallahassee by 8 p.m. for another rally.
That's an approximately seven-hour drive.
So if they're giving themselves two hours in Baton Rouge for the rally and everything that they're doing, it could work out.
But that's fucking tight.
jordan holmes
That is tight.
dan friesen
It's almost like they're expecting everything to either be nothing or that everyone will plan things for them ready to go ahead of time when they get there.
It's sloppy from a production standpoint.
jordan holmes
Anything goes wrong.
dan friesen
Anything.
jordan holmes
Anything goes wrong.
Their entire trip is behind and compounded.
dan friesen
But does it matter?
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
If they get to Tallahassee at 9, who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Yeah, no care.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
The stakes are low, but also the setup is terrible.
True, true, true, true.
The next day is a little bit better paced on Wednesday, but this is a very, very poorly timed route.
And it does not suggest that they had a lot of time to plan.
So anyway, here's what happens on Wednesday.
owen shroyer
Then on Wednesday, we're going to head north like this, right up through here, link up in Atlanta with some friends.
That'll be on Wednesday.
And then Thursday, we're going to head up to North Carolina, hit Charlotte, head into Virginia.
dan friesen
This is a little better spaced out.
The first stop of the day there on Wednesday is 3 p.m. in Atlanta, which is only four hours from Tallahassee.
So that leg should be totally fine.
The next stop of the rally is in Columbia, South Carolina at 8 p.m.
That's another three hours on the road.
So as long as they limit their stay in Atlanta to two hours, this should be possible.
That seems like what they did.
They gave themselves two hours in this town.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Then on Thursday, they do not go to Charlotte.
In fact, they don't go to Charlotte at all.
The next step is Raleigh.
And then there's another three and a half hours.
I'm sorry, that is another three and a half hours in the car, but that rally is at 3 p.m.
So they should be able to make that one fine.
After that, it's on to Richmond, Virginia for an 8 p.m. rally, which, again, should be no problem.
And then the next day is in D.C., so they can get there whenever they fucking.
Really, this is a horribly designed trip.
That first day must have been brutal.
Yeah.
Like, I've been on the road.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're doing comedy shows.
Totally.
unidentified
Good stuff.
dan friesen
Like, when I was looking at that, like, whoa, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
No, I've been doing it.
dan friesen
It's been seven hours.
And, like, you're adding on time to get meals and to go to the bathroom.
And unexpected things just always happen.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So it just seemed like I would not want.
I mean, I want to go along with this, but I wouldn't want to be the ones doing it.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I wouldn't want to be, like, responsible for anything.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
jordan holmes
No, and it was clearly planned in about 45 minutes.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't account for time zones and all of this shit.
dan friesen
Oh, I didn't when I was planning out how many hours apart they are.
I didn't even think about that.
jordan holmes
I think we might find out if they did, too.
dan friesen
So Alex is there while Owen is giving his little, like, here's where we're going.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And here's how that video ends quite abruptly.
alex jones
All right, more coming there at InterWars.com.
Owen Shroyer leads the attack.
The peaceful attack.
dan friesen
The peaceful attack.
Very important.
Peaceful attack.
What is that?
Get the fuck out of here.
It's the loving punch.
jordan holmes
We're going to turn the other cheek right into their fucking faces.
dan friesen
We get to 5 p.m.
Owen Schroer goes down to the state capitol.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And he's got some patriots there.
jordan holmes
Got it.
dan friesen
We're ready to send him off in style.
owen shroyer
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Owen Schroyer here live.
Owen Troy here live.
Which camera am I looking at?
All right.
Owen Schroyer here live.
We are at the Texas State Capitol building behind me.
We've got a lot of great Patriots out here that are sending us off.
We're going to be heading to Houston tonight.
dan friesen
Owen has a great group of Patriots there sending him off in Austin, as you can clearly hear the exciting time.
jordan holmes
There was rousing cheers in the background.
dan friesen
Jordan, I'd like you to guess how many people are there for Owen's send-off.
And I will give you a clue.
Okay.
I do have an exact number.
jordan holmes
You have an exact number.
All right.
So it's not in this video.
If it's not an estimate, I think we are confident.
I'm going to go with 13 people.
dan friesen
It's nine.
It's nine.
There are nine people there in their hometown at the send-off event for their cross-country barnstorming caravan.
jordan holmes
That's the type of thing that happens after a wedding night and you're being sent off by all the drunk people in the bleary-eyed morning.
dan friesen
It's absolutely the saddest picture you can imagine.
And the fuck do I admire Owen's attempt to keep a stiff upper lip and pretend that this is a great turnout?
jordan holmes
He's doing great.
He's doing great.
dan friesen
I'm pretty sure that's everyone who is there, too, because when the live stream starts, there's actually only six people behind Owen.
And they have to corral the other three to get into the shot to make it look like there's more people there.
jordan holmes
Pulling people out of a Denny's.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Get in here.
Get in here.
dan friesen
It's sad, man, but it's amazing.
It's my favorite genre of entertainment.
This is like this.
I could watch this forever.
This kind of thing.
Owen trying to stay brave in front of completely obvious sadness.
jordan holmes
It's just, it's just, it couldn't be more black adder.
Like, it is just pure, pure stupid.
It's amazing.
dan friesen
So here's a little bit of Owen talking about where they're about to head off to.
owen shroyer
We'll be at Herman Park, Miller Hill.
We want to try to be there by 8 p.m.
We may be running a little late, but we should be there by 9 p.m. at the latest.
jordan holmes
It's your first leg of the trip, man.
You can't start late.
You can't start late.
dan friesen
And especially with that pretty simple leg between Austin and Houston.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're not making up time as you go along.
dan friesen
I mean, if you're worried, yeah, if you're worried about that, that's bad news.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
Also, it's fitting that they're having their rally in Herman Park in Houston because that park is named for George Herman, who donated a bunch of land to the city, but also fought for the Confederacy.
Sure, sure.
So it's kind of right where they would think they'd be.
So we get to Owen talking about, you know, this seems like a comedy show guy, like a promoter, like maybe a local show.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
A guy who booked you, and then there's no one there.
Owen has that vibe.
jordan holmes
That's what's going on?
owen shroyer
We know that we'll be in Houston tonight tomorrow.
We're going to be going through.
Hopefully we'll have a stop in Baton Rouge.
We'll be in Tallahassee, Florida tomorrow night.
There's going to be a big turnout there.
dan friesen
It's going to be a big turnout in Tallahassee.
I know there's 90%.
jordan holmes
Until next week.
Wait until next week.
Oh, man, you should have been here.
An hour before you were here.
Yep, thousands of people.
dan friesen
Last week was packed, man.
Sorry, I don't know what happened.
jordan holmes
I don't know what happened this week.
dan friesen
So, Owen doesn't really have much to say.
So, he starts talking to people.
And here's the first fella.
owen shroyer
So, we've got a lot of people out here.
So, I want to ask these people why it's so important.
In fact, let's get Richard Reeves up here.
Come here, Richard.
Come here.
dan friesen
So, we're not live on the show right now.
owen shroyer
We're being reported, man.
Okay.
Come here, Richard.
steve pieczenik
Hey.
dan friesen
Richard Reeve is an InfoWars guest.
He is an old friend of Alex's.
This is not someone.
jordan holmes
High profile.
dan friesen
This is maybe an employee.
jordan holmes
High profile.
We've got celebrities sending us off, Dan.
dan friesen
They have a big media presence, too.
jordan holmes
I'm surprised Joe isn't there.
You know, Rogan should be right there.
dan friesen
He should be.
He's in Austin.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
unidentified
Joe.
jordan holmes
Joe.
dan friesen
Mobilis Joe.
Well, you know, look, Rogan's not there.
That would have definitely given them quite a spotlight.
Yes.
They do have a lot of media there, though.
unidentified
Sure.
owen shroyer
We have multiple news media out here.
Of course, the local media will never show up ever.
But there could be a fire right outside their front door and they wouldn't report on it.
So that's no big deal.
But this is going to get national attention as long as you make it important, as long as you get excited, as long as you realize that this is the final level.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know if there's multiple media outlets, but I mean, I guess it depends on what you'd consider a media outlet.
jordan holmes
Extree, X-Tree, 14 people exist in space.
dan friesen
There might be a blogger there.
Richard Reeve might have a website.
jordan holmes
Could.
dan friesen
You could say InfoWars is there.
jordan holmes
I mean, in a sense, the internet is national.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Owen's going to leave.
The interviews are what they are.
They're pretty boring.
He's going to leave, but he gets interrupted.
owen shroyer
We've got to get to Houston.
So we're going to take off from here.
Are we still live?
unidentified
Can I do it all with one joke?
Yeah, sure.
Go ahead.
So what is it called when a radical feminist starts to grow facial hair after protesting President Trump?
Impeach Buzz.
dan friesen
Didn't even get good laughs there from the crowd.
So this is a guy who got interviewed by Owen earlier who comes back up to tell an anti-feminist joke.
Sad response from the gathered.
jordan holmes
This kills.
This kills my clan meetings.
Why isn't everybody loving this?
dan friesen
So now Owen is like, we got to end this.
That joke was good.
We got to end this.
owen shroyer
Now, again, we're going to be driving.
We can't facilitate lodging and meals and everything.
But if you just stay the course with us, eventually on Friday, you'll land in D.C. with us.
And then Saturday's a big day.
There's going to be millions of Trump supporters, I think, in D.C. to stop this steal.
So are you guys ready to make history, huh?
Are we ready to make history and save this country?
That's what we're about to do.
So God bless the Patriots.
God bless America.
God bless Donald Trump.
God bless everybody that made it possible.
Let's hit the road.
We'll see you at the Stop the Steal Caravan.
alex jones
All right.
unidentified
Good luck, yep.
dan friesen
Fucking William Wallace shit right there, man.
Wow.
jordan holmes
Today we declare our Independence Day.
Let's do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, the optics of this are very, very depressing.
unidentified
That's not good.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So based on that, you would expect that this thing is going awesome.
jordan holmes
Fagbuster.
From the jumps, absolutely.
dan friesen
So you might be surprised to find out on the way from Austin to Houston.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Something goes wrong?
dan friesen
Owen needs to call in to InfoWars to complain.
owen shroyer
So I had to come on here and do this update because we're having mass problems with communication, and this is because of the censorship.
Now, we don't have to pontificate on the mass big tech censorship that we're enduring, but because of that, we're not allowed to promote our events on mainstream news.
They'll never talk about our events on TV news.
We're not allowed to exist on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram or YouTube or any of that.
So all we have is our platform.
jordan holmes
That's it.
owen shroyer
That's all we have.
So I had to call in and interrupt your broadcast tonight because this is the only place I can promote what we're doing, the Stop the Steel caravan.
dan friesen
I hate to risk sounding uncaring about Owen's problems, but isn't he describing a challenge that they have to be aware of well in advance?
unidentified
How did you not know that this is going to be a problem for you?
dan friesen
If you're about to go on tour spanning half the nation and you need to get people to a very tightly timed series of events in various cities, isn't coordination and messaging your number one concern?
jordan holmes
We're going to do a direct mail campaign, but we realize there are some issues there, too.
dan friesen
I just refuse to believe that Owen got out on the road and only then it hit him that he'd been banned from Twitter, so he can't tweet about their next stop.
And it turns out Parlor isn't that great.
It's outstanding, really.
Owen's been out of studio on the road for like an hour and he's calling in complaining about not having a Twitter account.
This is absurd.
I love it.
jordan holmes
Mom, I'm running away.
dan friesen
Did you notice?
unidentified
Mom, I don't have any money to get a bus ticket.
dan friesen
So it turns out that, I mean, like, they did know that they weren't on these social media sites, but they kind of overbat on Parlor being good.
jordan holmes
Not a surprise.
dan friesen
And maybe it's not good.
owen shroyer
I guess Parlor is becoming so popular right now that it's just being overwhelmed and over-inundated with people on it, and it's just failing miserably.
I can't put out any updates on Parlor.
Quite frankly, it's extremely frustrating because that's what we were going to use to promote this thing, but it looks like we're just going to have to call in here and give people updates.
And of course, we're banned everywhere else.
So hopefully Parlor can get its stuff together.
Otherwise, I may have to try to get back onto Gab and try to promote and give updates via Gab.
dan friesen
Wait, wait, you're not on Gab?
Why aren't you on Gab?
Why aren't you on Gab?
jordan holmes
Nicolano.
unidentified
Do you realize that Gab is too toxic and not fun?
dan friesen
Oh, even you realize that.
jordan holmes
I was on Gab, but then I got hounded by all these fucking Nazis.
dan friesen
Yeah, they kept calling me like a shill for Israel.
jordan holmes
I don't like it when you get abused online.
Has anybody has anybody ever noticed that there's a lot of abuse online?
Somebody should do something about that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so you might go back to Gab.
I think they get their shit resolved and they still posted updates on Parlor.
Sure.
I tried to get an account with fake information, but they need an actual phone number.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And I'm like, I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
I'm not giving Nazis my phone number.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I saw some updates and it looked like things were great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
dan friesen
So, Owen, Owen, the only thing he can do is plug on InfoWars.
owen shroyer
And then Wednesday, Atlanta, Greenville, South Carolina, and then Thursday, Raleigh, North Carolina, and Richmond, Virginia.
And then, of course, Friday and Saturday in D.C.
So this is the latest.
Now, again.
dan friesen
Owen has plugged a rally in Greenville, South Carolina that's not on any of their caravan itinerary.
jordan holmes
Surprise rally!
dan friesen
This is weird.
What's also weird is in a video they posted on Monday, there's a map that says they have stops in Atlanta and Columbia, South Carolina on Wednesday.
But then on Tuesday, they posted a map that omits the Columbia stop.
It's very confusing, with or without parlor problems.
And Owen's saying Greenville isn't helping.
It kind of makes sense for the tour to go to Columbia, though, because that's the state capital.
And the rest of these stops, except for Houston, are all state capitals, and it's obviously Columbia.
He just keeps fucking up.
He said Greenville said Charleston on the last one.
jordan holmes
Part of me thinks that maybe that's just because all these rallies are really up in the air on a moment-to-moment basis.
Could be, you know, like, oh, it's on this map this time.
And then we got a phone call and it's like, we can only get four people to go to the VFW.
You still want to come?
And they're like, I don't think we can do that.
dan friesen
So now that Owen is called in to complain about how he can't promote things to Deanna Lorange, it's now time to get his ass to Houston.
At this point, I was really needing some context, some additional footage or information than just the InfoWars content.
And luckily, there actually was a self-styled journalist who had decided to come along and document their trip.
jordan holmes
Fuck yes, you genius.
dan friesen
Now, granted, this person was an InfoWars fan.
God damn it.
And there's not much footage.
Like, it's still edited down videos, but it's something.
And because it's an Infowars fan, you end up with interviews like this.
unidentified
Feeling good, been running on pure adrenaline, faith in God, and love, zero fear.
And we're on a mission of divine proportions to show our support for our country.
And we're here to make sure we'll never ever submit.
We'll never submit to the communists.
dan friesen
In case you're curious, the guy you just heard is the same guy who told the anti-feminist joke during Owen's send-off.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is from a channel called Just Another Channel.
And the guy who runs it is a dude who's called into Alex's show in the past.
I've forgotten his name, but he's a dude who you could basically call an Infowars employee, except they don't have to pay him.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, contractor.
dan friesen
He's got some videos from the tour that I was able to consult for context.
From his video of the Austin send-off, I was able to see Owen's video from another angle, and it's just as depressing from any angle as it was from straight on.
I'm not fully convinced that some of the people in the video weren't there explicitly with Owen.
So saying that they had an organic turnout of nine people might have been an exaggeration.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, this dude is following their caravan.
This guy from the Just Another Channel.
And this weird dude who told the anti-feminist joke and hates communists is his also.
He might as well be our eyes in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Our way in.
Oh my God.
I mean, I guess it just happened too fast.
I feel like if they had actually planned this with like a tour manager and stuff, somebody would have been able to pitch to like Vox or something.
Like, we're going to embed with this whole thing.
dan friesen
Would it happen in like I would do it?
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
If there had been enough lead time, I might have risked blowing cover or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And be like, guys, just please give me a shot.
You know that I'm good at creating the like I could write an amazing thing about going along.
You know, I'd be fair.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Too fair.
unidentified
Yeah.
I might make Owen look fun.
jordan holmes
The Depper Nazi.
Dan wrote the Depper Nazi.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we're in Houston.
We've got now two streams of information: the Infowars stream and this other weird dude who's going along with him.
And here is Owen's clip in Houston.
unidentified
To stop this new caravan is here.
I want to salon for coming out here today.
We're sorry for being late, but I gotta say, this is an even bigger turnout than I expected.
dan friesen
So Owen has arrived in Houston and he says the turnout is bigger than expected.
Things are a little bit more difficult to assess in terms of the turnout in Houston, but that's just because it's nighttime.
There's no doubt that it's more people than we're in Austin, but it still looks pretty thin.
jordan holmes
Low bar.
dan friesen
If I had to guess the number, I would feel fairly comfortable in the 100 to 150 territory.
jordan holmes
That's more than I would have expected either if I was Owen.
dan friesen
Much higher than that stretches, my belief.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The Just Another Channel video kind of cheats to make the turnout look a lot bigger by recording the walk from a parking lot to Owen's location in fast motion, making it appear that all the people that they passed are there for Owen.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And because it's sort of shaky all over the place, you can't keep track of anything.
I don't know if those people were there for Owen or not, but you know, because it's a public park.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Even if I give Owen the benefit of the doubt and go with the high estimate of the turnout, it's still an embarrassing failure for InfoWars.
If they presented themselves as scrappy upstarts, then 100 people showing up to a rally is great, but that's not their brand.
Alex insists millions upon millions listen to him.
World leaders listen to him.
They've swung domestic and international elections.
He has a million-dollar high-tech studio.
They should not be drawing this poorly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you're a talented but relatively unknown comic and you can draw a quarter of a house, that is nothing to feel ashamed of.
Uh-uh.
If you're a headliner who's been in the business for 26 years and you can't fill a room, you should stop booking gigs.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because it looks bad.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You're going to wind up at the comedy shrine in Aurora with me.
And me.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Owen's got some good news to give this collection of patriots in Houston.
owen shroyer
Now, in case you guys didn't hear the good news when we came pulling up today in that nice-looking armored vehicle, that's pretty nice, isn't it?
unidentified
He has the best armored trucks, okay?
The best of the bad.
jordan holmes
They have to be towing the armored truck, right?
There's no way they're driving this.
dan friesen
I know when I have some good news to give an eager crowd I'm speaking to through a megaphone, I'm really quick to get distracted into Trump impressions and rambling about multiple cars and the caravan.
It's so amazing how the instinct to pad for time and tease things out for no reason.
That's not just like a show tactic.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It's just the style.
It's in the Infowars style guide.
jordan holmes
That reminded me so much of, do you remember?
Have you ever seen the Kurt Russell speech in Miracle?
That is exactly how motivating that was that Owen just tossed.
Not very?
No, it's quite.
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yes, incredibly motivating.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I have a working theory that if you work at Infowars for long enough, you lose the ability to get to the fucking point.
You just can't.
You just can't.
You have to like, well, something else.
jordan holmes
I would believe that Alex can truly infect you with something that you like can't get out.
You know, like there's a serious virus that he can break into you.
dan friesen
The virus of bad habits.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So we get to the good news finally.
unidentified
Sure.
Before stop.
Before stop.
dan friesen
Biden lost Pennsylvania.
jordan holmes
That's a great thing to say to get a crowd to cheer for you.
I would say that every time.
You get a big cheer.
It's not true, but you get a big cheer, you know?
dan friesen
So the good news that Owen was teasing out is that Biden had lost the electoral votes in Pennsylvania.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is not true, nor was it true then.
So this is sad.
I was curious what the deal was here and where this news was coming from.
And thankfully, I didn't have to look far because a source is provided in the video from just another channel.
Here again was that weird dude who told that anti-feminist joke who I've now learned is named Tom.
unidentified
Yeah, what's the news that just broke?
What's going on with those states, Tom?
Real Clear Politics announced that they took the electoral votes away from Pennsylvania.
And that immediately takes him away from having the emote that playing him is the winner.
So Biden is not the winner.
Actually, Trump is winning.
dan friesen
And he is going to win.
So this is from Real Clear Politics, apparently.
So the issue here is that there's a confusion in terms.
What these guys are presenting is that Real Clear Politics is reporting that Pennsylvania has taken away the electoral votes from Biden, thus putting the election back into play.
What they're actually claiming, whether it's true or not, is that Real Clear Politics was withdrawing their projection that Biden had won Pennsylvania's electoral votes, which is a different thing.
There's a bit of a misunderstanding going on here that was exacerbated by social media and, of course, Rudy Giuliani.
Rudy tweeted out that Real Clear Politics had taken away their prediction of Biden winning Pennsylvania on November 9th, which is the news that all these people are responding to.
However, in the real world, Real Clear Politics had never called a winner in Pennsylvania to begin with.
Their president, Tom Bevan, tweeted out on November 9th, quote, this is false.
We never called Pennsylvania and nothing has changed.
The idea here is to pretend that there's some media outlet, in this case, Real Clear Politics, that has swung things away from Biden and towards Trump, because this creates the illusion of momentum.
With no tangible victories and no real hope to point to, it's important for these assholes in the right-wing propaganda sphere to create their own fuel, and this is one of the ways they do that.
You can see how, even when on the road, when doing something that's supposed to be fun, Owen can't help but spread false and misleading information.
It's all these people are equipped to do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a real bummer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, if you want to get a cheer, that's a great way to do it.
It's like if you're a stand-up and you're like, let's give it up for the troops.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You're like, yeah, yeah.
I'll always get an applause.
dan friesen
So around this point, I started to get a little bit lost in flights of fancy.
I felt like Tom had really given me an assist with that one, since Owen didn't cite a source, and yet I had no idea who Tom was.
I'm getting information from Tom.
He was just a weirdo in this guy's video who's clearly along for the long haul.
Essentially, he was doing exactly what I wish I was doing, documenting this utter nonsense, except he believes all of it.
jordan holmes
bet he's actually zach i i bet he's this is my deep throat reveal okay He's actually Zach from Space Force.
dan friesen
If Tom was going to be doing all these things that I wish I was doing, I felt like I should get a better sense of who this guy is.
Figure it out.
jordan holmes
Figure it out.
dan friesen
Who's this guy that I find myself feeling jealous of?
Luckily, the Just Another Channel videos use his full name, and I was easily able to find his YouTube channel.
It turns out that Tom is basically an open mic stand-up comic, and his bits are what they are.
Having been through it and done hundreds and hundreds of open mics and lived through the process of trying to write and work on jokes, I really don't have an interest in shitting on comics who are on their path.
I will say, however, that I don't expect a Netflix special anytime soon.
I'm not going to take up our time making fun of this dude stand-up, but I can't not mention this.
On October 29th of this year, he posted a video of himself doing stand-up as Shao Kahn from Mortal Kombat.
That was like two weeks ago.
He's on stage, and I'm using the term very generously in a full costume.
And here is one of the bits.
unidentified
The COVID fatality rate is at 0.0001%.
The Shao Kahn fatality rate is at 100%.
You suck!
dan friesen
That's really not good.
Nailed it.
jordan holmes
Nailed it.
Landed it.
dan friesen
That's not good, but I've seen so much worse.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a lot of commitment to get a Shao Khan.
jordan holmes
One Shao Kahn bit.
dan friesen
No, I meant the costume.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, that's what I'm saying.
He got the whole costume for one Shao Kahn back.
dan friesen
Oh, I mean, like, it might be, it's a longer video than just that joke.
jordan holmes
That's brutal.
dan friesen
Yeah, I didn't watch all of it.
jordan holmes
There's only one Shao Khan bet you can do, and you did it.
dan friesen
That was about where I was like, I don't care.
You got the costume.
All right, buddy.
jordan holmes
That is fun because I can see myself in a bar, like the hidden shambrog or something, drinking at the bar.
And it's like me and a couple other comic friends at an open mic.
And he comes up and Shao Kahn, and we all turn and look at him.
And we're like, hmm.
And then turn back to our drink.
That's exactly what doing that, huh?
dan friesen
Overcommitted.
jordan holmes
All right.
This is an open mic, but okay.
unidentified
Probably should have worked on the writing.
jordan holmes
Try pretending you have a Shao Kahn costume.
dan friesen
Hey, what if I were Shao Kahn?
Now, here's a brilliant joke.
If you have a good joke, you don't need the costume.
jordan holmes
No, you don't need a costume.
dan friesen
If you don't have a great joke, you do need a costume.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you got to sell it.
dan friesen
And this still is iffy.
jordan holmes
This is not good.
dan friesen
Anyway, that's the guy who's along for the long haul.
jordan holmes
I'll give him five of the impromptu.
I think that's a good point.
dan friesen
At the shrine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So here we're back to Owen in Houston, and he tells them this to give them a real sense of meaning in what they're doing.
unidentified
Let me tell you something.
owen shroyer
When you guys either go home tonight and you are doing this caravan and you're in your hotel or whatever it is, and you look in the mirror, you're looking at a hero that's fighting for America right now.
unidentified
I guarantee it for you.
owen shroyer
Because I guarantee them to you, if we didn't start this movement with millions of other patriots nationwide, they would not have called back Pennsylvania, and they already would have called Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, and Nevada for Biden.
unidentified
But they saw us.
They saw us rise up.
dan friesen
So you heard Alex claim that Trump fighting is because he saw them in Austin.
And now Owen is trying to give the audience that same grandiosity.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, you, this hundred people showing up at a park in Houston is the reason that the globalists took electoral votes in Pennsylvania away from Biden.
jordan holmes
As these men later in their life shall sleep, wondering what will become of me.
Shamed that they were not here with us on this St. Christmas Day.
All right, let's do it.
dan friesen
So, Owen predicted there's going to be millions in D.C. Good luck.
unidentified
They saw you come out here in Houston and they have the algorithms.
They've already plugged in the AI.
They know that there's about to be over a million Americans in D.C. this weekend.
So, guess what?
The corrupt mayor of D.C. has tried to lock the city down.
jordan holmes
When?
When?
unidentified
Bad news.
I got bad news, Mayor Bowser.
We're coming in a million strong, and you ain't going to stop nothing.
Oh boy.
USA!
USA!
dan friesen
An unsurprisingly large percentage of Owen's speech in Houston is the crowd breaking into USA chants.
Which honestly, I thought were kind of satirical when I was younger.
You know, I felt like a high number of the people who were doing USA chants were mocking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like making fun of the people who would just stupidly yell USA.
jordan holmes
Isn't that like a long-standing trope of somebody inexplicably like crying?
USA!
dan friesen
Yeah, I feel like they've reclaimed it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
All in all, this is a pretty uninspiring speech.
By about minute four, you can kind of tell that Owen doesn't really have much gas left in the tank.
Just trying to prompt chants and talking about very not true news from Pennsylvania.
That's basically it.
Here's a little taste of him from about minute five where it just seems like he's fallen back on like platitudes, whatever.
owen shroyer
Many who we thought were allies will abandon us on this journey.
unidentified
Many who we thought were allies will stab us in the back.
But that's okay.
Because we're all we need, we're all we got, and we're going to D.C. to let them know that we still run this country.
And this time our politicians fear us.
Woo!
jordan holmes
Okay.
And I say unto you, Steve Bannon will deny the cocks crow three times.
dan friesen
So at this point, the rally ends.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And I start to realize, first of all, these turnouts, I mean, granted, they were the first two.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They're not good.
Houston was better.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Still not good.
jordan holmes
Could be better.
dan friesen
I realized that I had really overthought things when I was talking about their itinerary.
They do not need two hours in any of these cities.
jordan holmes
No, they do.
They're not doing anything.
dan friesen
Owen's just coming in and yelling at a bull.
jordan holmes
You guys, we can do this.
And next stop.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
We're going to get out of here.
You guys keep on fighting the good fight and stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was thinking there was actually like, you know, we're going to coordinate.
We're going to meet up with some people.
It's nothing.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Just show up.
This Just Another Channel guy will go around and videotape some people.
There's another group that's following them called the Hippies for Trump.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I don't know what the fuck is going on with these white dudes with dreadlocks.
jordan holmes
Not surprising.
Not surprising.
dan friesen
Yeah, they seem pretty high.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this sounds like it's a hastily slapped together publicity stunt, Dan.
And I'm just starting to think it might be.
I love it.
dan friesen
So Owen goes to bed, and we wake up.
And again, I will never know if David Knight covered this on his show.
But we jump in now on the November 10th episode of the Alex Jones program, where he's bent out of shape about a globalist named Klaus Schwab.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The coming up, globalist Klaus Schwab, world will, quote, never return to normal after COVID.
No more police, no more meat, no more travel.
You'll be lucky if you're alive.
Wait till I read it.
And you're going to enjoy.
You're going to bow down.
You love it.
dan friesen
Klaus Schwab is the head of the World Economic Forum, and he wrote a book earlier this year called The Great Reset.
Some of the ideas in it were further explored in that online presentation that we discussed on a past episode, so we don't need to get too deep into it now.
jordan holmes
That's what we talked about on the video that I did with that dumb Catholic guy.
Yeah.
dan friesen
This book is not Schwab saying that you can't have meat anymore or any of that bullshit.
It's a complex examination of interconnected forces that have been disrupted or altered by the coronavirus, and it attempts to find possible solutions, as well as guess at some trends that might be expected to be seen.
I just don't care about Alex's inability to read anymore.
He's someone who can't be trusted to get the point of a young adult sci-fi novel.
So it's really crucial to understand that when it comes to something like a book like this, he truly can't handle the material.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he doesn't realize that his teacher was not actually an alien.
In the book, the teacher was an alien, but not all teachers were aliens.
dan friesen
Yeah, don't give him.
That wasn't the lesson.
Don't give him goosebumps.
When Schwab discusses how things are never going back to normal again, he's saying that the state that we were in in early 2020 is not a state that we're working to return to.
We can't be because that's impossible.
The idea that we have some kind of quote-unquote normal isn't a real thing.
And when we end up wherever we end up, that will be the result of decisions that we're making now, how we respond to the challenges of the pandemic, as well as various aspects of life that it affects.
Honestly, from what I've read about the book, it seems like one of the largest points he has is about how things will be different in the future, is that there's going to be a trend away from globalization.
The thinking is that one of the things that makes the virus response so difficult is that everything is interconnected.
So it's very hard to slow things down in one area of life without affecting every other one.
And this you would expect to lead towards a less connected world because it would give more, I don't know, ability to have one thing fall apart.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think the one thing that conservatives have absolutely dominated as far as messaging goes is like this idea that it's even acceptable to talk about an older time as being normal or static.
Like at no point, like, oh, let's go back to when America was great or anything like that.
The 1950s were great.
It wasn't fine.
It was constantly in flux then and then changed and it's going to keep changing and there's nothing you can do about it.
That's just how it is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How can we even have a conversation where people are like, let's live like we did back then?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you can take like this guy saying we're never going back to quote unquote normal and Alex can pretend that that means that there's no police and me travel anymore.
And what he really means is something that the future is unpredictable and we have the ability to make better decisions now.
Although this is terrible, what's happening right now, disruption and these, there are occasions and opportunities for us to do things that are better.
jordan holmes
Dumb-dums.
We're tired of saying I told you so.
Listen to us before you do the dumb thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Again, I stress Alex Jones is unable or unwilling to wrestle with complex ideas.
So what he does instead is that he takes his fantasies and bizarre notions and then he presents them as researched, studied fact.
He's dumb, but being dumb isn't something to shame someone for.
It's that he makes his living through the weaponization of his ignorance, which is something that is just repulsive and I cannot forgive.
So in this next clip, Alex goes out to break really weirdly.
And listen to this.
Mike down for this because I want you to pay attention.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I am dead certain that he meant to plug.
And I think you'll agree with me.
This is absolutely supposed to be an ad pivot.
alex jones
We're going to go to break.
No, I know you're going to do something.
We've got to stay on air now more than ever.
I'd hope Trump could win and we could hopefully turn the tide back quicker.
But you know, Revelation, you know what's going to happen.
But we've got to build and be faithful and wake up as many as possible.
And it'll get so bad that even those that are delusional in the end will wake up when they're being forced to be euthanized, when their children are being taken, when half their neighbors are dead from the vaccine, and they'll just finally go, oh, what's going on?
And by then, it'll be drone armies, robots, nerve gas, helicopters flying over, nerve gassing everybody, because they've got a mop-up plan.
So they're going to hit us with different waves of bioattack over the years, locking us down tighter each time.
And then by the time they hit us with the real weapons, we'll be so absolutely outnumbered, outgunned, but it won't matter because humans are very strong.
We start to fight back.
And it's just going to be one hell of a savage war.
My God, it's just going to be most of the people on earth will be dead at the end of this.
So hope you all enjoy it.
World government's coming to kill you and your family, and they are celebrating it with enjoyment.
And all the little yuppies in Austin are dancing in the streets and running around screaming they love Satan.
And they do.
And so their God is going to hurt them so damn bad.
All right, Paul Joseph Walks that's coming up on the other side, Infowars.com.
Spread those links.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
I'm certain that at a couple points during that, he had meant to jump to an ad.
alex jones
Totally.
dan friesen
He just was like, ah, fuck it.
I'm going to ramble about everyone going to die.
jordan holmes
There were at least four times where I guarantee I was supposed to hear, and that's why we need your support.
That's why we need your support.
That was supposed to be there.
steve pieczenik
Yeah.
dan friesen
And what further reinforces that is that as soon as he comes back from break, he does a plug.
Yeah.
I'm pretty sure that he was just like, ah, fuck, I blew it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex talks to Paul Joseph Watson, and I don't care.
I only have this clip in because it demonstrates that this is the next day, and Alex still doesn't know that that Pfizer vaccine is a mRNA vaccine.
alex jones
Cuomo and all of them are saying, don't take it.
It's dangerous because this is a classic vaccine.
I'm not saying take it, but Trump did it.
So if you want it, you're in fear to end the lockdown.
It's the excuse to end the great reset.
That's why Trump checkmated him.
But they're saying, no, don't take it now.
You've got to take Bill Gates' mRNA vaccine 100 times more dangerous next year.
So they're completely transparent now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I guess Paul Joseph Watson doesn't know the difference either.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
Why would they look it up?
Why would they look it up?
Alex made it up on the spot.
He was just guessing.
There was a 50-50 chance maybe he was right.
Why not ride with it?
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex discusses lying to a woman that he saw in public about masks.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
And then he proceeds to guess light the shit out of her.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
By the way, people are in such fear that I ran into a lady a few weeks ago that I know, nice lady.
And she's wearing a mask for months.
And I said, are you always going to wear that?
Because Bill Gates said he wants you to wear it for 10 years.
And she started crying.
And she said, don't be mean to me.
And then I said, I'm just talking to you nicely.
But people are so emotional about this.
unidentified
Man, you are an asshole.
jordan holmes
It's because everyone is so emotional.
That's why everyone always says you're attacking me and then starts crying.
It's because of them.
It can't possibly be that every time it has something to do with me.
dan friesen
In this sort of meant-to-be heroic story of Alex's, he seems like a giant prick.
He's a big dick.
Yeah.
So speaking of people who suck, Roger Stone shows up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I will say, I'm pretty sure he's drunk.
I think he's dead.
He has a giant cigar.
Halfway through the interview, he puts on a big pair of glasses, sunglasses inside.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, he's slurring a bit.
He's doing the whole thing.
He's lost his job.
He's not getting a new one from anybody.
He's got his pardon.
Trump's going to lose.
Might as well fucking enjoy the rest of his life.
Yeah.
alex jones
Roger Stone is a smart political operator.
He says Trump still has a chance.
We still have a chance to stop this steal.
He joins us from Florida.
Roger, thank you so much for taking time out.
Go ahead, sir.
dan friesen
So he has his plan for how this could still work out.
jordan holmes
Seeing operations.
dan friesen
Hey, look, Biden hasn't won yet.
And people who say that he has, right, they're similar to another group that's in denial about something.
roger stone
And the deeper you dig, you know that not only do they like Holocaust deniers, despicable people, they kept insisting, no, no, there is no evidence of fraud.
They tried out Romney and Bush like anybody's going to be impressed with that.
dan friesen
So people who are not buying your arguments about election fraud are similar to Holocaust deniers, which are repulsive people.
Tell Alex about that because he seems to hang out with a bunch of them.
jordan holmes
There are a lot of people who deny the Holocaust.
Yeah.
They're denying it in a good way.
I don't like this election denial.
dan friesen
I don't know if there's any single source of entertainment that I've viewed in my life that had more Holocaust deniers on it than Info Wars.
jordan holmes
Cheers?
dan friesen
I'm not sure about the percentage.
But I would say if you exclude the history channel, because they have all those documentaries of all Nazis out there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
That's so them, though.
Like their language is always the fucking most disgusting they can possibly think.
And it goes both ways, too.
It's like Mitch McConnell would reference Martin Luther King Jr. in a speech about how he's unveiling a bill to bring back slavery.
Like that's how awful they really are.
dan friesen
You're not wrong.
So in this next clip, Roger kind of rewrites the party swap from the 60s.
I don't think he's making a whole lot of sense.
roger stone
The South and the Deep South have been a bedrock of support for Christian conservative values.
They used to be Democratic in the old days until conservative Democrats saw the error of the left-wing, now communist, infiltrated Democratic Party and their other corporate handlers.
And they had already moved to Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Donald Trump in droves.
Also, you have a great Southern military tradition here.
jordan holmes
It goes all the way back.
We have a great Southern military tradition.
It goes all the way back to the beginning of the United States.
We're huge military people here in the South.
No idea why I'm bringing that up right now.
Just tossing that out there.
dan friesen
Yeah, and this is just indicative of that very standard sort of belief in the anti-communist wings of the right wing sphere.
That is, these civil rights movements were really just communist nonsense.
jordan holmes
For Roger Stone, one of the people who helped create the Southern strategy built entirely on whipping people up about race.
For him to be like, they saw the error of their ways.
Fuck you, Roger Stone.
dan friesen
So, Roger, he has his plan.
There's a narrow way to victory.
And he hints that it has something to do with electors or something.
roger stone
I don't think patriots understand that the last chain in this process is the legislature certifying who the electors who will go to the electoral college are under the U.S. constitutional system.
But they are, in fact, not, you know, they are who we're shooting for, if you understand.
alex jones
Yes, sir, not interrupting because I want you to get it all out.
dan friesen
I mean, yes, the electors are eating a sandwich.
Eating a sandwich.
What his argument is, I think, is that we can use these legislatures to force electors that will vote for Trump even when they're supposed to be pledged to be a part of the fight.
jordan holmes
They're faithless electors and all that stuff.
I'm furiously disgusted with this.
You cannot spend a year telling me that this is life or death and we're fighting the devil and then be like, well, if we can use the vagaries of the fucking Constitution to trick our way into the presidency.
No, no, no, no.
You can't like then be like, no, you didn't read us his rights before he got elected president.
And so now we're fighting.
Like, no, you don't get a 12th hour fucking Cinderella solution to this fucking problem.
Okay.
dan friesen
Not when it's the devil.
Yeah.
So, Roger, I will say there's reasons not to take him too seriously.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And this is definitely one of them.
roger stone
You have a whole second level here where Sidney Powell and Tom Fitton have correctly talked about the hammer, a very invasive federal, essentially surveillance abuse,
which had corrupted and been able to manipulate votes through a scorecard program that was specifically designed to work through the back doors of the state.
dan friesen
Roger's on some Dennis Montgomery shit.
He's on the hammer and scorecard stuff.
jordan holmes
I think the worst part of that is he's telling it like he half remembers what it's supposed to be about.
dan friesen
He's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and then he's just filling in the blanks where he doesn't remember this stuff.
Like he doesn't know what it even is.
He doesn't know that it's supposed to be.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like, and then they change votes with it.
And it gets it.
It's invacious.
It's an invacious thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he's promoting the Stop the Steal stuff.
And it's like, you're involved.
I know you're involved.
It's the same name.
jordan holmes
It's you.
dan friesen
It's a bunch of your associates.
jordan holmes
You own the domain.
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on here.
You're making some money off this somehow.
I'm sure of it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But anyway, this is my favorite.
This is such good comedy.
I could not have written this myself.
The universe had to create this for me.
This is Alex's last question for Roger.
alex jones
That's right.
I have one more question, Roger.
What does Trump need to do?
Warning.
unidentified
If you're drowning in debt, you can't afford it.
jordan holmes
I got one last question for you.
dan friesen
What does Trump need?
jordan holmes
I'm getting the light.
I'm sorry.
We're going to have to go.
unidentified
What does Trump need to every time?
dan friesen
Imagine that, Alex, like imagine that what he's saying is true and that world leaders listen to his show.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is talking to Roger Stone.
Trump is watching.
What's the last thing I need to know?
jordan holmes
What does he have to call into the show to get the rest of it?
dan friesen
Yeah, and Alex is going to be taking a nap, so he's not going to be able to get through to him.
jordan holmes
That's why he always misses the part that he wants to hear.
And Alex is just done with the show, so he's napping, and Trump can't get him.
Oh, man, that's brutal.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Roger's gone.
And if you, Jordan.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I mean, you're not in a city where you could.
That's true.
If you were in one of the cities along the route or near the caravan, if you don't join, you're crazy.
jordan holmes
That's true.
alex jones
I was going to be in Tallahassee tonight about 8 o'clock.
That's the real rallying point.
We're counting on folks.
We went through Florida.
You know, Florida loves liberty.
Gash up the car, drive up the next few days with us.
Stay in D.C. for this event.
If you don't, you're crazy.
Because this is all about visuals and it's all about going up there and it's all about standing for freedom.
So we'll see you in D.C. Separately.
We are running the emergency sale.
dan friesen
It's all about visuals.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's very clear.
unidentified
Yeah, we know.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Owen is back on now, and he's like to give a little interview from the road.
Sure.
He's in a van, a moving van.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he describes kind of what's going on.
And I'm like, I don't understand how this is any different than a coup.
What you're describing is a coup.
owen shroyer
Okay.
So you've had Donald Trump, the president of the United States, declare he's won.
You've now had essentially, for all intents and purposes, Mike Pompeo, the Secretary of Defense, claim he's won.
And you have about 70 million Americans, I think millions of which could be in D.C. this weekend claiming Trump won.
dan friesen
Right.
So you have Trump declaring himself the winner of an election that the sort of consensus is that he didn't win.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You have his Secretary of State Lackey saying, hey, he won.
Right.
And then you also have large groups of supporters who are very angry who are saying that he.
None of that proves that he won.
All of those things are exactly what you would expect in the case of someone who lost claiming that they won.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
unidentified
But, it's a sting operation.
jordan holmes
Hey, come on.
dan friesen
It might, it's the, it might be, it might not be.
Who knows?
I mean, it's literally forgotten about that now.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's literally a group of people getting in the car trying to grab more and more supporters in order to essentially put siege to the White House until they fucking take over the country.
dan friesen
With bullhorns.
jordan holmes
Yes, with bullhorns.
dan friesen
Now, Jordan, my favorite thing.
I know that I said that that last clip with Roger where it got cut off.
Sure.
Favorite thing?
Sure.
This is probably the finest moment.
Maybe of this whole episode.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It's possible.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So Owen is just complaining about voter fraud and what have you.
And then this happens.
owen shroyer
We'll say, wait a second, this isn't right.
They see them counting in Pennsylvania.
alex jones
Well, we lost Owen.
That's okay.
I decided to bite into a delicious cheesy hamburger.
By the way.
I've never been into a hamburger.
It tasted so good, but all this news has just been breaking.
jordan holmes
What is this?
dan friesen
This happens a lot.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I mean, this happens a lot, but this is, I think, the first time, or maybe it's one of the few times that Alex has been forced to actually.
jordan holmes
It's just be like, I was eating a cheeseburger.
I'm sorry.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
A cheesy hamburger.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He would never eat a cheeseburger.
He simply likes his hamburgers cheesy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's interviewing Owen.
Feed goes out.
jordan holmes
Ah, shit.
You caught me.
I got to own up to it this time.
dan friesen
You know, big old cheeseburger.
Cheesy hamburger.
jordan holmes
But his defense for it is like, honestly, this is the best cheeseburger I've ever eaten.
So frankly, I'm doing you guys a favor by eating this cheeseburger.
dan friesen
Someone's got to do it.
jordan holmes
Somebody has to.
It's too good.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now Stuart Rhodes shows up.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
dan friesen
And he thinks that what needs to happen is that Trump's got to declassify everything.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that'd be fun.
stewart rhodes
Well, I think he's on the verge of doing what I've been calling on President Trump to do for at least six months, which is declassify all the dirty secrets and throw them out in the street.
That's why it's awesome to see Don Jr. saying that just the other day.
He posted on Twitter.
Declassify everything.
alex jones
Oh, I'm sorry.
I should have agreed.
You've been beating the drum for months.
Weaponize this even before the election.
Declassify it.
Destroy Brennan as a foreign agent.
Destroy Hunter.
Destroy Biden now.
And Trump knows it's his only move.
And that's why they're now calling for a coup to remove Trump because he's finally moving towards victory.
Continue.
dan friesen
So I guess the idea is that what they now want is for Trump to prove all their conspiracies for them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which I'm sure he's going to do.
jordan holmes
I personally would love it if he just declassified all kinds of shit.
That of all the things that he could do as a spite move on his way out of office, that's the one I'm most in favor of.
dan friesen
As long as it wasn't really very strategically targeted.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like if it were like alien shit or whatever, you know, like just something that like start going down the hill, Kennedy.
jordan holmes
The whole thing.
dan friesen
Right now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Let the chips fall where they may.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Fidel Castro was actually a CIA agent the whole time.
I want it all.
dan friesen
The Roger Stone file.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
That one's probably not coming out.
So Stuart Rhodes says this, and I feel like my only response to this is, that's not cool.
stewart rhodes
Because we have men already stationed outside D.C. as a nuclear option in case they attempt to remove the president illegally.
We will step in and stop it.
And we're going to be there to also help secure the coming rally this Saturday and your caravan coming in.
So I've got good men on the ground already.
We've been losing recon there last week, and we're sorting out we're going to be staging, and we'll be there.
We'll be inside D.C. We'll also be on the outside of D.C. armed, prepared to go in if the president calls in.
alex jones
Stuart, can you not feel history happening right now?
I mean, it's happening right now.
dan friesen
Who boy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
No, that's really fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I, Stuart Rhodes, leader of the Oath Keepers, have an army of armed men ready.
Yeah.
Who boy?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I'm going to be honest, it sounds real blustery.
Yeah, a little bit.
I'm going to go with his cosplaying on this one.
dan friesen
Yeah, most likely, but it's such a scary prospect.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
I still feel the need to take him a little seriously.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, cosplayers with giant heavy swords, even if they're heavy, they can still hurt somebody.
It makes me uncomfortable.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
They don't have guns.
Guns are worse.
dan friesen
These guys do have guns.
jordan holmes
They have guns.
And they're worse.
dan friesen
So the thing that I think is really funny about this interview is that Owen earlier said that Bowser, Mayor Bowser, was trying to keep him out of D.C.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And apparently that was in reference to COVID restrictions.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Yeah, you have to quarantine maybe.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And in Stuart Rhodes' interview, he's like, no, we've had guys there a while.
Like, you know, I don't have to do shit.
jordan holmes
Okay, great.
dan friesen
So that got punctured.
I do tire.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now we're done with the 10th.
The show itself, again, not very good.
Alex's show is not satisfying in many ways.
There's still little things that come up.
Alex eating a cheeseburger.
Roger Stone probably drunk doing an interview.
jordan holmes
Did he make it when he was eating the cheeseburger and got caught?
Did he like make a face to the camera?
Did he mug to the camera with like a little.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, there isn't video of him eating the cheeseburger.
jordan holmes
That's so disappointing.
dan friesen
But there is just like it's Owen's shot, and then the camera goes out, and then a big Sony logo.
It's not great.
jordan holmes
The three-dimensional pipes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we pick up with Owen on the road.
And he's on his way to Baton Rouge.
Sure.
And that means red stick in French.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
Owen arrives.
unidentified
Okay.
owen shroyer
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
Owen Shroyer here from Infowars.com.
Stop the Steel Caravan in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
This is our first stop of the day before we get to Tallahassee, Florida this evening, where we're expecting a bunch of people.
And so I'm not sure where our people may be out here because there is no real parking lot close to the station and they have kind of the Capitol grounds shut down.
So we're going to drive around a little bit and see if we've got a caravan that's looking to join us out here.
unidentified
Otherwise, we're going to have to just pick a parking lot.
dan friesen
Owen can't find his people, which is a bad sign.
jordan holmes
He didn't plan any of this.
No.
That's what he should be saying.
These are things that all went wrong logistically because we were very confident that we had planned everything, but we realized just now.
Oh, that's right.
We're very dumb.
dan friesen
An important part of meetups is where.
Where is the first question usually that you want to take care of?
jordan holmes
You can't text anyone.
There's no Google Maps.
Just we're in a parking lot.
dan friesen
So Owen finds the folks, and I would say that his response is tepid.
unidentified
Hello, Baton Rouge.
InfoWars is in the house.
jordan holmes
That's a solid clip.
unidentified
Globalists thought that they destroyed America, but we're not dead yet.
dan friesen
From what I can tell, there was a turnout of about 25 in Baton Rouge for Owen's arrival.
jordan holmes
But only one of them had hands with which to clap?
dan friesen
The other ones were holding Gadston flags and shit.
Owen's speech and appearance in Baton Rouge is incredibly boring.
So I checked in on the coverage on the Just Another channel.
It was useless too.
It was just that Tom guy doing a bad Cajun impression.
Of course.
I would say that this stop on the convoy was a waste of time for both us and Owen.
It was a zero.
But while he's there, Owen bangs the gong that is labeled Biden lost Pennsylvania.
jordan holmes
Sure.
owen shroyer
I think we've got enough court cases, enough wins coming.
unidentified
Did you see they already took Pennsylvania from Biden?
Yes!
owen shroyer
You know, this is probably not a good question to ask because I'm sure that they feel this way all the time.
But how dumb must Democrats feel when they celebrated that Biden won and now he didn't win?
How dumb do you think they feel?
But how dumb do they feel?
They probably don't feel that dumb.
They voted for him in the first place.
So, yeah, so I'm not sure if they can really sense their dumbness there.
dan friesen
They like their feelings.
They like their feelings.
jordan holmes
You said this was a sting operation.
Just now they're telling me that I should feel dumb.
dan friesen
Just a couple days ago, you reported that this election was a fake election.
unidentified
It was a double-decker.
jordan holmes
It was a huge scoop.
Yeah.
Strange how I feel stupid about that.
I feel real dumb, Dan.
dan friesen
So Owen talks to the people who are there, and one guy comes up and he says he has a good idea.
unidentified
We had a million people in D.C. and a million people all across this country getting up on freeways, putting the banners over it, having 10,000 people see that every hour.
We don't need the media.
We don't need social media.
We can do this ourselves.
This is a multi-front battle.
If you're not going to DC, you pick a bridge, you get on it, you do it, you do it every day.
So that's what's got to be done.
owen shroyer
There you go.
jordan holmes
We are the media now.
dan friesen
We've taken the bridges.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh, they got the bridges.
dan friesen
Wait till someone tells them about town criers.
jordan holmes
Screwed.
We're screwed.
If they've got, can they put like little paper cups inside of the fence on bridges to kind of spell out a message to?
dan friesen
Wait for them to learn about pamphlets.
Yeah.
They're the media now.
They got bridges.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So, Alex.
jordan holmes
I got a ShaoCon joke for you.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Here we go.
Let me see if I can get this one right.
dan friesen
Something, something Goro.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Biden's victory is brutal, but the turnout at these rallies is a brutality.
dan friesen
As as good as that other dude.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Owen is acting like he just had a bay ballady.
jordan holmes
That wasn't even a joke.
dan friesen
No, this is a statement.
So Alex is there in spirit in this Baton Rouge rally, and Owen asks the audience for a message to Alex.
owen shroyer
Just say something to Alex Jones because I'll tell you, you know, I've worked with Alex for a long time, and he's really tied into this thing.
It's hard to even understand or comprehend how tied into it he is.
I see the torment he goes through.
So just give him a little word of encouragement as we see America through this final battle to save our republic, guys.
Just tell me that.
unidentified
Hippies for Trump loves Alex Jones.
America moves!
That's right.
Trump!
dan friesen
So those are the hippies for Trump who've been along for this whole tour.
jordan holmes
We prefer sound bites!
unidentified
Your words are going on too long.
dan friesen
So here's another ⁇ this was a fun little message to Alex from the audience.
unidentified
We love you, Alex.
We don't need to fact-check you like Joe Rogan did.
Yeah.
You didn't know you had the documents, you know?
You are the John the Baptist of this movement.
dan friesen
You were laughing over another guy saying you're the John the Baptist of this movement.
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
If there's nothing funnier than we don't need to fact-check you like Joe Rogan.
Oh, such a harsh fact-checker that Joe Rogan was.
And that's kind of the problem with doing it halfway.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is because then you have the appearance of Alex coming out of that unscathed.
And it's like, oh, well, Joe did his best.
jordan holmes
He did.
dan friesen
He threw everything against the wall and Alex stayed standing.
And that is a really bad optical thing to give Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, I hate to say this, but this next clip is probably going to piss you off.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is probably, I mean, because you're a lib, you know, this is really probably going to be like...
jordan holmes
Is it another Shao Kahn joke?
Is it another Shao Kahn joke?
dan friesen
No, but it's going to be like, you're going to just, the hair on the back of your neck is going to stand up.
You're going to punch my wall probably.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
owen shroyer
All right, guys.
unidentified
You want to upset some liberals that are watching this right now?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
dan friesen
So they recite the pledge and then attempt to anger the libs.
jordan holmes
Oh, guys, guys.
It's funny when they don't actually know or meet any libs.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
So they get this weird, like, created version of the libs is being like, oh, they're so terrified of the Pledge of Allegiance.
dan friesen
They respond to the pledge like vampires do to guard.
jordan holmes
Yeah, is that what's going on?
Who are you people?
Yeah.
They just can't get this.
We're just like you, man.
Nobody's mad at the Pledge of Allegiance.
It's just boring.
dan friesen
Probably unsurprisingly, though, this does end in a prayer.
unidentified
And we pray right now, God, we pray that you hear this prayer, that you raise up Donald Trump to continue to be our king, God.
We're standing in unity right now.
We come together in the name of Jesus Christ, God.
Father, we pray that you come against all demonic attack.
dan friesen
They're praying for Trump to remain king.
jordan holmes
Good, good, good stuff.
Hi, this is me, God.
I would choose someone who can stand better.
dan friesen
So the turnout in Tallahassee, which is the next stop on the tour, it doesn't appear to be much better than the previous events.
But again, it's nighttime, so it would be pretty difficult to gauge the exact numbers.
I would say that there, you know, it could be absolutely, I would be shocked if there were 200 people there.
Yeah, yeah.
That is kind of the ceiling I would go to.
It's a great turnout for an indie band, but it's a terrible turnout for InfoWars.
Some of the individual close-up shots don't look too bad, but the people are packed in pretty close.
And also, if you watch the video, you're going to notice something glaring, and that is that literally no one's wearing a mask.
That's something that our friend Tom is actually pretty stoked about.
unidentified
This is Trump country here.
It's great to come to Florida.
No mask mandate.
None of that.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
unidentified
It feels like freedom is a totally change of energy.
Going to gas station, going to resting, going to Walmart.
That's right.
dan friesen
Completely unrelated.
Florida is the state with the third highest number of COVID-19 cases and the fourth highest death count.
jordan holmes
It's like if Typhoid Mary was actually a political movement.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
If you're Owen, you could probably feel a little bit better about your arrival in Tallahassee.
But not because it's amazing, but because the other events were so bad.
They were so dismal that this is kind of like, okay, you have some stuff you can work with here.
It's still way less than it should be if all the other things about what you do about what you do are accurate, but fine.
I'm not too mad.
It looked like people were having a good time in Tallahassee.
alex jones
Great.
dan friesen
So they go to bed, and we wake up, and November 11th comes along.
And again, I don't know if David Knight covered any of this.
I'll never know.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair.
dan friesen
We get to Alex's show, and I was expecting some big news from the road.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Instead, we get something altogether different.
alex jones
And Steve Pachetic's coming on.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out.
alex jones
I got it said two weeks ago on the show they were going to fire the Secretary of Defense and they have the CIA and others.
Did you hear they all got fired?
dan friesen
Steve is coming on.
unidentified
He said two days ago it was a sting operation.
jordan holmes
I don't care what he said two weeks ago.
Maybe he got something right.
unidentified
Two days ago, he said this whole election was one big sting operation.
dan friesen
And David Knight said he's a CIO operator.
jordan holmes
You can't walk away from this.
dan friesen
He's there to track you.
Why are you having a background?
jordan holmes
Where are you people?
Do you talk?
dan friesen
This is outrageous.
jordan holmes
Send a text message.
This is time to time.
dan friesen
This is outrageous.
jordan holmes
I want to throw something.
dan friesen
I thought for sure Steve would be on timeout.
jordan holmes
Forever.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Turns out you can fuck over Owen.
It's not that big of a deal.
jordan holmes
You can say anything on War Room because no one's going to stop.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it's such a small audience that there aren't really any stakes to it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's why David Knight can choose to have Steve on or not because he has a tiny audience too.
It doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
And he can shit all over Owen because who gives a shit anyways?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets caught up talking about how Black Lives Matter or Aunt Jemima.
And it's pretty offensive.
jordan holmes
Well, it's not well.
You're not.
alex jones
So when you see Black Lives Matter and they all look like Aunt Jemima, they are, folks.
They are literally Marxist-Leninist Satan worshipers who follow Mao Seitong and say they hate men's very existence and the only good man is a castrated man.
And their main sacrament is no families for black people, especially, and that black men have their testicles removed.
I'm not making it up.
Because, see, they can't outright kill all the black men, so they just cut their balls off.
All right, let me get back.
I'm going to break all of this down for you.
dan friesen
He doesn't.
He doesn't tell that person.
jordan holmes
Is there something that the syrup was pro that we weren't aware of?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I think this is all just weird racism.
jordan holmes
Weird racism.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's what's going on there.
So in this next clip, Alex, I got to say, in terms of satire, he's not good at it.
In terms of these set pieces that he does, not good.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This is about as well done as a joke has ever been on his show.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
This is where he declares himself president.
He declares himself president.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I feel like this was all right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
While you're really freaked out that you've seen Joe Biden announcing himself as the president-elect and having the nerve to put up a big sign behind him saying in the whole media and even Fox News announcing it, but under the law, it's a fraud.
But that's what these scammers are trying to do because their past hoaxes has failed.
But I've got some good news for you.
Ladies and gentlemen, the 46th president of the United States.
That's right.
Here we are, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you.
It's not Donald John Trump.
He was a 45th president.
God rest his name in the annals of history.
And it's not Joe Biden, the Chinese communist globalist agent.
No, all you've got to do is be a media outlet and then announce that you are allowed to announce the winner and that no one else is.
And then you just announced whoever you want is the president-elect.
And so you just have a dark blue background with a presidential seal on it and some white font and you are the president-elect 46th president of the United States, Alexander Emmerich Jones of Texas.
dan friesen
Before you say anything, hearing that a second time, I take it back.
That wasn't good.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Went too long.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Overexplain the joke.
jordan holmes
Totally, as usual.
dan friesen
You know what I was remembering that made me think it was good?
It was the lead-in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The lead-in was all right.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Because it was serious.
And then it flipped to being a joke.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The music cue is at the right time.
jordan holmes
Sounds good.
Yeah.
dan friesen
That was what tricked me into forgetting that it went way too fucking long.
jordan holmes
The window dressing at the start kind of gives you a little, but, oh, boy.
That's such a terrible, like, okay, we've announced that I'm the president.
And you know that because I've simulated what a normal news outlet would look like.
And you know that you can do this because there's a blue background and on top of the blue background, there's a logo.
And on front of the logo, there's a flag.
And in front of the flag, there's an eagle.
dan friesen
And oh, the music.
jordan holmes
Do you guys like this joke?
Yeah.
Is this joke really working for you?
This is SNL, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I would say that it's a rare day in Austin when the cues at Infowars work.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that might have blinded me.
That's true.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So Alex has some problems with the voter fraud and people not believing their stories.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
They've had all these whistleblowers come out from the USPS about post-dating ballots after the election saying that they were from before the election.
My brother-in-law, who I wouldn't even say is right-wing or left-wing, he's more pragmatic.
He was fighting mad the day after the election, watching somebody postmark 50 of them or so, working with the post office.
dan friesen
I don't care about Alex's dumb brother-in-law.
However, I do want to touch on this whistleblower from the USPS that Alex is referring to.
This is the subject of Project Veritas' latest pile of shit video, a guy named Richard Hopkins.
Hopkins claimed that he was instructed by his postmaster in Pennsylvania to backdate ballots that came in after the election.
His testimony has been used by many in far more official avenues to claim there's solid evidence that illegal ballots were coming in.
However, the Inspector General of the USPS spoke to Hopkins, and Hopkins told them that, quote, the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims.
Project Veritas started to GoFundMe and quickly raised over $130,000 for Hopkins, even though he's clearly making shit up to be used as the basis for right-wing dictatorship-enabling propaganda.
Of course, Veritas can claim that he was coerced into recanting his story, and he said that he didn't.
And then this can just be another one of those things that's totally believed by the dumb-dumb audience, but there's no real evidence at all.
And the people involved are seemingly acting in ways that are exactly what you would do if you want to keep a grift going, but also want to cover your ass from legal exposure.
Sad stuff all around.
jordan holmes
Hi, Mr. Hopkins.
Yeah, come on in here.
I just want to talk to you about voter fraud and the alleged abuse that you.
I'd say shit.
Why didn't you say shit?
Is it because you could be hit with a federal crime?
dan friesen
I'd like to recant it.
jordan holmes
Do you want to recant that?
Was that coercion or just you realizing there are consequences?
dan friesen
I'd like to avoid all consequences.
Flash forward to a little later.
I didn't recant it.
unidentified
I don't remember recanting anything, but a please give me my GoFundMe money.
jordan holmes
No kidding.
dan friesen
I would not be surprised if that GoFundMe gets frozen.
Anyway, Steve Pieczenik comes in, and he's there to complain about John Brennan.
alex jones
So, where do you want to start, Dr. Steve Pieczenik?
steve pieczenik
Let's start with the fact.
This is very unusual what I just heard Brennan do.
I mean, it was one of the stupidest interviews he's ever done.
jordan holmes
Did he claim that the election was a sting?
dan friesen
That's a pretty stupid interview.
jordan holmes
That's a dumb interview.
I would feel real stupid if I gave an interview where I said that.
dan friesen
No, he doesn't say that.
Brennan was talking about how, like, you got to get Trump out of there.
Like, he's a caged lion, basically.
He's cornered.
jordan holmes
You got to get him out of there.
dan friesen
You don't know what he's going to do during this lame duck period.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he was just sort of, you know, it's close to anything that Alex says that is pretty close.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like in terms of the globalists are encouraging the 25th Amendment.
Yeah, John Brennan was.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I am too.
unidentified
Yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That does not mean that there is a massive elaborate conspiracy to trick Trump into getting hit with the 25th Amendment.
This was just a commentator saying on public television, hey, Trump's a fucked up dude.
We've learned he's a fucked-up dude.
jordan holmes
Hey, guys, I don't know if you've been alive for the past four years or if you have ever read any history, but you realize that wannabe dictators don't leave on their own accord, right?
dan friesen
It generally removes them.
It seems like, you know, and like even assuming that everything goes fine in January, like there's a lot of damage that can be done before that.
jordan holmes
He's got to go.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that I 100% agree with that just based on how much more trouble that could be.
Totally.
And the fact that January is coming.
But I understand Brennan's perspective.
And I don't know.
Anyway, Steve is somebody who Alex says has been in the CIA.
Steve would beg to differ.
steve pieczenik
Now, although I was accused of being a shelf of the CIA, I've never been in the CIA.
jordan holmes
Accused by whom?
dan friesen
Maybe an in-for-employee named David Knight.
Yeah, so Alex has said many, many times that Steve was in the CIA.
Of course.
I guess Steve is not.
If I were Alex and I were interviewing him, I'd be like, wait, you've told me that you were.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
A lot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For years.
dan friesen
So Steve was on the war room with Owen on the 5th, I believe.
And he said that the whole election was a sting.
They watermarked these ballots.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And it's all like, haha, they played into our hands.
jordan holmes
Something that if you were to claim and would later discover was completely false, dumb information, it would haunt you for the rest of your career and you would never be able to get a job, let alone be some sort of presenter on the show again so soon.
dan friesen
Well, there's this technique called hand waving.
jordan holmes
Ooh, I like hand waving.
dan friesen
Here's Steve's attempt at that.
jordan holmes
The fun.
steve pieczenik
Trump is very much in control.
This is what I said before.
This is Sun Tzu.
He's watching the game, manipulating it, and you don't see it.
I told you we set it up.
Whether you believe in the watermarks or not, that's not relevant.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
It is not relevant.
It's very from we know where every single ballot on the planet is to it's not really important.
dan friesen
Yeah, believe it or not.
jordan holmes
You know, it's no big deal.
Come on, I'm not a CIA guy.
dan friesen
A minor detail.
jordan holmes
It's one of those things.
dan friesen
Whether or not this election was a setup operation, minor detail, minor detail.
jordan holmes
What a what a fucking, what a dick.
dan friesen
Pretty amazing.
jordan holmes
That's unfair.
dan friesen
So Steve has a belief that uh, Trump is gonna win the Electoral College.
alex jones
Sure, tell people your your your, your weather forecast rain.
steve pieczenik
What I said years ago on your show, we did a sting operation on Hillary Clinton.
She didn't succeed.
We are allowing Biden to be president for 40 or 60 years and it's over.
December 14th it will be over.
The Electoral College will declare that Trump won.
Trump will come back in and this is a period of turbulence.
That would be expected.
alex jones
Is that why DeSantis is admitting he's getting ready with riot police to shoot looters?
dan friesen
Well yeah, so we got a pretty solid prediction there.
We can check back on that 14th.
jordan holmes
Huh yep, we'll see about that.
unidentified
I will.
jordan holmes
I do like that.
I think they're very kind.
I think that's like, is that their version of a make-a-wish?
Like, we're gonna let him be president for 40 to 60 days, we're gonna give him that fun and then obviously we're gonna do a coup and have to kill him, but he's gonna have a really good, nice time.
dan friesen
So Dee's making some specific predictions and also hand-waving away the ludicrous nonsense that he says.
jordan holmes
If you think about the watermarks too hard here, it's a minor detail.
dan friesen
Now I will say that this next clip.
steve pieczenik
I've never agreed with him more, you know remember, we're an alternative media.
There's no reason for anybody to believe me or believe you totally agree totally 100, totally agree, agree.
dan friesen
There is no reason for anyone to believe I would argue.
jordan holmes
There are many reasons for the opposite.
Yeah yeah, I would say that in the pro-con column you got zero pros.
dan friesen
Yeah, so this interview ends pretty uh uneventfully, which I was kind of disappointed by, and uh, I feel very confused uh betrayed yeah, flummoxed.
Yeah, I can come up with more words if you like, but I don't have my thesaurus handy.
jordan holmes
Maybe that's a more fitting punishment for Steve is to take away his big swings.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, this is a pretty small swing, except for him saying that you know, like we are allowing biology, but that's not an interesting swing.
It's very close to the boring middle of info war.
Yeah yeah yeah, and I got kind of excited when this happened.
alex jones
Steve, we really appreciate you.
steve pieczenik
Thank you for all the time, thank you and God bless.
alex jones
You know what I just?
I kind of did, a false start there, a false ending.
Come back.
I got one more question for you, then phone calls and then we got J Dyer taking over.
I got a serious question because everybody's talking about election fraud and watermarks.
I know those exist in Secret Service 30 years ago had it in printer ink and I know all that stuff, so that's a real thing.
I wanted to get your take on that trade ahead with Steve Pieczenik.
dan friesen
He does not.
jordan holmes
Bottom of the ninth two outs.
Is Steve Pagena gonna get one more chance to swing the bat?
dan friesen
Dad, he does not.
jordan holmes
Oh damn it.
I thought he had one big swing left in him.
dan friesen
He doesn't even really ask the question directly at all.
He they just want to talk about how great it is that Trump's firing people, even though he just lost election.
alex jones
Sure Trump is just axing all these people at the Pentagon that are civilians and bringing in all these War heroes right now.
And again, I see the pucker factor in MSM.
They are visibly scared.
I've got videos of them learning that Trump's winning states.
They're like cussing on Aaron, panicking.
I mean, I just want to see more of this because it's our country.
I don't like authoritarianism.
I don't like military doing domestic actions unless a military and a foreign power is attacking me.
Then I want the military in there and I cheer it on.
I mean, we didn't bring ourselves to this point.
The globalists did.
I just smell their destruction.
I smell blood right now.
unidentified
No.
steve pieczenik
Well, you're a good bloodhound.
I mean, you're Sherlock Holmes in that way.
I don't mean it facetiously.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Wow, Stevie P's.
That's our biggest swing of the night.
dan friesen
No, this is.
steve pieczenik
I will guarantee you my career and my future.
Trump will be the next president of the United States for the next eight years.
Not only four years, it will be eight years.
dan friesen
All right, Steve.
jordan holmes
All right.
He hit a line drive single.
dan friesen
He's guaranteed on his career that Trump will serve the next eight years.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
Great.
All right.
Well, I'm not a fan of authoritarianism, but I do have a guest on who's saying that Trump is going to destroy term limits.
So I just want you guys to know.
dan friesen
And have lost this election.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Or something.
Anyway, this brings us to the end of our episode.
And we will pick things up on Monday with what happened in the evening.
jordan holmes
I got to know.
I got to know.
dan friesen
We'll find out what happened in South Carolina, Atlanta.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I guess North Carolina after that.
Virginia.
jordan holmes
This is why we need somebody.
Like, this needs to be documented 24 hours because we've already seen so many stupid things that you know had very interesting and angry conversations.
dan friesen
I almost guarantee most of them didn't.
I bet it was incredibly boring.
jordan holmes
Really?
There's no way that they were like, oh, we can't do this.
We can't do this rally here.
And then they had a furious argument together.
dan friesen
No, I'm sure Owen would be like, okay, sir.
And then I would bet if you wired their car and you had the actual footage, it would just be hours of them singing 99 bottles of beer on the wall.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Who else has a Shao Kahn joke?
Who's up?
dan friesen
Did you see Rand Paul's Twitter?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No one can get in this bus.
It's out world.
dan friesen
That guy wasn't on the bus.
He was along with the other independent people.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But yeah.
I'm excited to see what happens because I do think that there's a tiny bit of momentum.
If you look at the like Tallahassee turnout, it was definitely better.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that they do better at night also.
So I think they should learn their lesson from that.
Don't do daytime rallies anymore.
jordan holmes
People still work, I guess.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm excited to see if it keeps growing a little bit.
Although I hope it doesn't.
I mean.
jordan holmes
That could be a moment.
I've done too many tours where it's like you have a couple first bad shows and then your third show, you're like, oh shit, there's 70 people there.
This is a good turnout.
Everybody was great.
We partied afterwards.
This whole thing is turning around.
And then your next show, there's two people from fucking Finland, Dan.
Finland.
They were from Finland.
How am I supposed to do shitty jokes to two people from Finland?
dan friesen
It's probably tough to find common points awareness.
jordan holmes
It wasn't good.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm interested to see.
I would like to, I'd like to, I don't know what I would like.
I mean, I just want this to end without any violence or anything.
That's really all that I'm particularly invested in.
Like, if this story ends up with this being a complete dud and like embarrassing, awful, that'll be pretty fun.
Sure.
If this ends up growing and growing to the point where they get to DC and there's a lot of people and it still just is a rally, that's fine too.
That's a story.
That's an interesting story.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They had humble beginnings.
Did a couple people in Austin.
jordan holmes
That would almost make me believe that Owen's speeches did inspire people.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
jordan holmes
Very much.
dan friesen
Maybe other people's social media posts.
Maybe.
But I could see that as a story, and I'd be fine with that too.
Oathkeepers shooting some people is not the story that I want to see.
As long as we can avoid that, I think we can have a lot of fun with the Dan's Caravanity Project.
jordan holmes
Fairy tale ending.
Fairy tale ending.
All right.
We have every policy wonk in DC show up and surround their rally, all of them holding their phones.
And when the rally is sad and everybody kind of slinks away, they all simultaneously press the button on their phones and 200 phones scream out, whoa, just like that.
That's what I want.
dan friesen
Or I'll play, I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Doot, doot, doot, doo, do.
Yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens.
I'm, I'm thrilled that we were able to do this because this could not wait.
And there's just too much material for one episode.
Yeah.
So I, you know, like, there was a part of me that thought, like, hey, we could just leave it all for Monday, but then maybe we wouldn't have gotten that weird appearance from Roger Stone.
Steve Pagenic comes back and pretends, hey, it's no big deal.
I said it was a story.
jordan holmes
It's unfair.
Unfair that that's how you can operate in the real world.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But we will be back, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we will.
dan friesen
Until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
Yep.
dan friesen
We're on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at Knowledge Development Fight and At Go to Bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Yes, we are on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we are.
We'd like to download iTunes review.
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dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I only do stand-up in a Shao Kahn outfit.
Or Goro or maybe Baraka.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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