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Nov. 2, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#498: November 7, 2016

Today, Dan and Jordan go back to the day before the 2016 election to see how Alex Jones was handling himself. Turns out, he was mostly bragging about how much traffic he was getting, and Owen Shroyer was getting knee-deep into Pizzagate.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
12:07
d
dan friesen
37:58
j
jordan holmes
20:31
Appearances
s
stefan molyneux
01:34
Clips
b
barack obama
00:09
d
david knight
00:14
d
dr ed group
00:20
j
jesse james
00:40
o
owen shroyer
00:23
r
roger stone
00:37
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy and, Andy.
Stop it.
Andy and, Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge Fight.
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Let's sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
Jordan!
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
What's your Bright Spot today?
dan friesen
My Bright Spot today is a continuation from last time's Bright Spot, and that is I have now played a little bit of Pikmin 3. All right!
unidentified
Yay!
dan friesen
And my bright spot is that I was right to preemptively declare it a bright spot.
It's so fun.
jordan holmes
Is it fun?
dan friesen
It's so much better on the Switch than it was on the Wii U. I believe it was the Wii U that the Pikmin 3 originally came out on.
And you know, the controller for the Wii U was that handheld thing.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah.
dan friesen
You had a touchpad on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no.
The only reason that I never had a Wii U is just that destroyed me so much.
dan friesen
It was not the best game experience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I think it's much...
Improved on the Switch.
You can lock on and throw Pikmin.
jordan holmes
That's good.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's better.
It's much better.
I enjoy it.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
Little Pikmin running around.
jordan holmes
They're small.
dan friesen
Little aliens.
jordan holmes
There's something to do with yellow ones that you...
dan friesen
The yellow ones can withstand electricity, and they are lighter.
They have lighter bones or something like that, so you can throw them farther.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
That makes perfect sense.
So if there's something up way high up in the air, you can throw a yellow Pikmin and get that one.
jordan holmes
But the heavier bones can't do it.
dan friesen
No.
All the rest of them are heavier.
The blue ones can go in water.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The red ones are resistant to fire.
jordan holmes
I'm starting to see a pattern.
dan friesen
The black ones...
The pink ones are made of rock, and so they can break glass when you throw them.
jordan holmes
All right.
Like Shaq through a backboard.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The pink ones are really light, so they can fly.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Why can't the yellow ones fly?
They're also really light.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're not that light.
I don't know.
There's something about the white ones being able to dig fast.
I can't remember.
Don't worry about it.
I haven't gotten to the white ones yet.
jordan holmes
I'm just having fun.
dan friesen
God damn, I love Pikmin.
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Dan, you know, there is one thing that Alex and I do share, and that is an intense love of Star Wars.
dan friesen
And blood.
jordan holmes
Yes, well, and blood, of course.
To be bathed in it however you would like.
No, The Mandalorian Season 2 has begun.
So I have returned to my Star Wars universe.
dan friesen
I've seen some memes.
jordan holmes
Where I desperately long to be.
dan friesen
Yeah, baby Yoda and shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, hell yeah, baby Yoda.
He's back.
He's babier than ever.
He has not aged a day.
dan friesen
Too baby, too Yoda.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That sounds great.
I have not seen it.
jordan holmes
Also, maybe there was...
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
I haven't seen any of that show, but I should probably catch up.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
At some point.
jordan holmes
You should start with episode one, The Phantom Menace.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Seen it.
Yeah, that's on that list of like...
It's probably about a mile long by now.
Things are like, yeah, I'd like to see that.
I'll never watch it.
jordan holmes
Nah, space westerns are great!
It's got Cowboy Bebop written all over it.
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
I will never watch it until someone else suggests it, and then I'll be like, well, no, I mean, someone who is like, let's watch it now.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, okay.
dan friesen
And then I'm like, let's not stop watching this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Isn't that how it goes?
dan friesen
Yes, that is how me and media go.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we are coming off a bit of a hangover and high from the...
Rogan experience.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
That experience was quite an experience.
jordan holmes
It was very Rogan-esque.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
A little too much.
dan friesen
To Rogan, to Experience.
jordan holmes
Yes, indeed.
dan friesen
And today, what we're doing is we are back in the past, looking at November 7th, 2016.
I'm Dan, this was 2016.
jordan holmes
Alright, I'm fine with that one.
dan friesen
And one of the things, the reasons that I decided to do this was that, you know, we're recording this, and this is going to be released on Monday, the day before the election here in 2020.
jordan holmes
Oh, is it the election?
I haven't heard anything about it.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that there is very little value to talking about whatever Alex is talking about.
jordan holmes
What does he have to say?
Right.
unidentified
Kill people.
jordan holmes
The end.
We got it.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Right now, anything that he's covering, us covering it or talking about it, we kind of be playing into sensationalism, even if we're pushing back on it.
dan friesen
And I just don't.
Nah.
unidentified
I don't have the...
dan friesen
And we'll get to what Alex was doing right before the 2020 election and right after once it's happened.
And in that spirit, I don't think that we can have an episode on Wednesday that covers...
This stuff.
No.
Not possible.
No.
I just think because of the timing of everything.
And so our Wednesday episode will be on Friday this week.
Our second episode will be on Friday.
jordan holmes
Well, I believe the plan eventually is to go to Monday and Friday, correct?
dan friesen
Maybe.
I'm not sure.
We'll see.
But the ability to put out a good middle-of-the-week episode is light.
jordan holmes
What could anybody want to listen to us talk about when the election hasn't happened and Alex is talking on Monday?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Great.
The day after the most important day of maybe the world.
We're like...
Alex said this before the election.
dan friesen
I'd like to be able to discuss it with a little bit of hindsight and a little bit of information.
So we will be doing that.
And today, like I said, we're on November 7th.
On our last episode from 2016, we went and looked at November 4th through 6th, 2016.
And Alex was in a weird state where it was all pretty thin, but it was all...
I hate Hillary.
Hillary sucks.
jordan holmes
A little despondent.
dan friesen
Sure.
It did not feel to me, listening to it, that he was planning on Trump winning.
jordan holmes
He did not scream 1776 2.0 screaming.
If he thought Trump was going to win, I think he would just repeat Thomas Jefferson fake quotes for four hours straight.
dan friesen
I would say that my assessment was that he didn't think that Trump couldn't win, but was preparing For the most likely outcome, which is Hillary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like all of us.
dan friesen
Yes.
So we'll get down to business on this here episode, November 7th.
We got Alex's show, and then he came back in the evening.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because they're in the middle of a 52-hour live broadcast.
But before we get down to business on that, Jordan, let's take a moment to say thank you to some folks who've signed up in our sporting show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
Yeah, so first, a moth made a mouse put moss in my mouth.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
A moth made a mouse put moth in my mouth.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Next.
alex jones
Dan, is there a war on Western civilization?
dan friesen
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
That person requested that I play a drop with my name in it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Jesus Christ.
Thought I had a stroke for a second.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next.
Erica's hunky husband, Ian.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Erica's hunky husband Ian.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Next, Milo B. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, JJ.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, JJ.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And finally, Plantifa.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk!
jordan holmes
Thanks, Plantiva!
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Plantiva!
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking that button that says support the show, we would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
It'd be lovely.
Or, what you could do is take that generous spirit, get it into a lovely little spaceship, alright?
Put it in a little tiny egg.
Maybe, if you are fighting a large beast, you might need the assistance of that generosity.
Egg might need to open up and needs to use some force powers.
And then once you have defeated the large beast, which in this metaphor I guess we're going to call selfishness, and then you have defeated it with the force powers of generosity, and you take that to a local bail funder charity, Dan.
dan friesen
Is this a spoiler for Mandalorian?
jordan holmes
No, that's from first season stuff.
Okay.
dan friesen
Just making sure.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
So I got a message from Plantifa, and they were saying that they enjoyed plant updates, so I wanted to actually use this as an opportunity to give...
A partial Z in the mailbag.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because we're going to talk about this person's actual package on a later bonus episode.
But I wanted to give a special shout-out to Duncan, who, along with the thing they sent, also sent a template.
jordan holmes
Is that actuarial tables?
dan friesen
Well, yeah, it's like a template for plant maintenance.
Oh, that's sweet.
So you can keep track of, like, watering, pests, moisture, pH, all kinds of things.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so I have actually made pages for all of my plants.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice!
That is nice.
dan friesen
I'm very excited.
jordan holmes
Do you also have to sign your name once you finish cleaning the bathroom?
dan friesen
You have to clock in and clock out.
There was a little bit of disorder with how I've been treating the plants.
I'm taking care of them, but a little bit more organization could be good.
And Duncan's given a wonderful template here.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
Thank you very much, Duncan.
Now, Jordan, down to business.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
First out-of-context drop that I think you'll actually enjoy.
alex jones
And get ready to bleep this for our stations, but I'm going to say it because I mean it.
Fuck Michael Bloomberg!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right, man!
So we have two things in common now.
We like Star Wars and...
Fuck Michael Bloomberg.
dan friesen
Three if you count blood.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah, you always know some hot fire's coming when Alex says, get ready to bleep this.
jordan holmes
Get ready to bleep this.
All right.
Thanks, guys.
dan friesen
The delivery on that's pretty good, too.
I think I want to hear it one more time.
alex jones
And get ready to bleep this for our stations, but I'm going to say it because I mean it.
Fuck Michael Bloomberg.
dan friesen
He hits that fuck real hard.
jordan holmes
He really does.
Do you know what's crazy?
Every time we've heard him swear in the past, I've always been like, this dude does not know how to swear.
He sounds like a fucking weirdo, but that is some top quality fuck.
dan friesen
That was a pro swearing.
jordan holmes
That was good.
dan friesen
Good job.
jordan holmes
That was good stuff.
dan friesen
So here we start on the 7th.
This is an Alex's actual show during the day.
And he's really excited about the election.
alex jones
Well, it's here.
I tell you, to say that you could cut the tension in the air with a knife is a cliche, but it's absolutely true.
I have never felt such suspense in my life.
Quite frankly, not even when I was about to see my wife have our first child.
dan friesen
Ooh.
That's...
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
That's unfortunate.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's ugly.
jordan holmes
You've sacrificed a lot for Trump.
Yeah.
alex jones
That's a lot.
dan friesen
This 2016 election's more exciting than Rex's birth.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Rex.
Rex, he is not your friend.
dan friesen
That doesn't seem very good for family values.
So, in this next clip, Alex is talking about the state of the election.
And as it turns out, according to him, Trump's already won.
And if Democrats win, if Hillary wins, she's cheating, which is exactly what he's saying now.
jordan holmes
I think I've heard that, yeah.
dan friesen
But you'll notice that his tone is very different.
alex jones
Trump has already won the election.
Whether they steal it from him, whether he wins in a landslide, the evidence shows that's where it's going.
Because he has introduced Americanism, not globalism, to the world.
He has brought out 1776 worldwide.
dan friesen
This is a guy saying that Trump has already won because of the things that he's brought into conversation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a moral victory that we are speaking of that has already occurred.
Not a literal, let's end democracy forever victory that we're about to see.
dan friesen
This is a rationalization, it appears.
So, at this point, Anthony Gucciardi comes into the studio.
jordan holmes
The Gooch?
dan friesen
Yeah, you might have forgotten about the Gooch, because he doesn't work there anymore, and I think he doesn't like Alex anymore.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
But he was a guy who was sort of a health blogger, maybe?
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Mini Mike Adams?
unidentified
Good.
dan friesen
But who actually worked at InfoWars, and he would talk a lot about the supplement lines and stuff.
However, he's on for a different reason today.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
So InfoWars, now 172, rank 172 in the United States.
That means of all the billions of websites in the world, you can imagine all of them out there, InfoWars is 172.
The 172nd.
alex jones
And Infowars, quite frankly, we know from Google, is only about 20% or 25% of our traffic.
dan friesen
So they're just talking about how great Infowars is.
jordan holmes
They're great!
It's about to be a really important election.
I think there's somebody named Trump, or is it somebody...
I think it's Bill running again.
Can they do that?
Anyways, we are doing great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a lot of that.
It's a lot of that.
Alex is pretty much all over the place in this interview.
And part of it, I think, is probably because Anthony Gucciardi is boring as shit.
But he wants to give it up for the MVP.
Of the season.
Because the season's coming to a close.
jordan holmes
2016, was that another LeBron year?
dan friesen
I will tell you that he does say that Putin was the MVP in 2015.
jordan holmes
Okay, well that's fair.
That's fair.
Everybody knows that retrospectively that is the case.
dan friesen
2016 goes to a guy who will not be the MVP in 2020.
alex jones
In the revolution against the New World Order, the number one most valuable player isn't Nigel Farage.
It isn't Donald Trump.
It isn't Alex Jones.
It's Matt Drudge.
And Matt doesn't want that credit.
You're getting it.
You showed up first.
You did it the longest.
You broke through the big stories.
You broke the mainstream media's control.
You did it.
So, there you go.
And again, Trump's already won.
I don't care.
If they steal it, it doesn't matter.
Let them steal it.
I've looked at it.
That's even better.
dan friesen
See?
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Isn't that tone very different than 2020?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Let them steal it.
I can profit off that.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We were all so bright-eyed and bushy-tailed back then.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Thinking that Alex was going to lose.
dan friesen
Alex thinking he was going to lose.
jordan holmes
All of us being like, Alex, this is where you belong.
And then Alex wins, and even he didn't know what to do with it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a real tragedy.
It's almost...
jordan holmes
It's not the real tragedy.
dan friesen
No, no, I think I meant like a Greek tragedy.
Exactly, yes.
jordan holmes
It is very much a Greek tragedy.
dan friesen
I meant from a literature perspective.
jordan holmes
A little Titus Andronicus.
dan friesen
It's almost like the be careful what you wish for kind of curse coming.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is monkey's paw all over the place.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is the real polls, as we know, which are very different than the poll polls.
The poll that he has has some absurd numbers for Trump.
jordan holmes
Okay, I like it.
alex jones
Internal Trump polling, they don't want out.
I'll just tell you, in real polls, have shown him the entire time 30 points ahead of her in New York.
Here's the problem.
There aren't hardly any Republicans registered.
The Democrats run it all.
So, it's like...
He's the son of New York.
Obviously, they want him.
So, it's crazy.
He's gonna take New York, people.
dan friesen
He did not take New York.
jordan holmes
He lost New York by a large margin.
dan friesen
59 to 36. Yeah, that was not good.
No, he did not come close in New York, even though he is a native son of New York.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they hate...
unidentified
I am there.
dan friesen
Yeah, it turns out.
jordan holmes
For all of the stuff he did.
dan friesen
Yeah, it turns out.
jordan holmes
You know, you can be hated for the things you did.
dan friesen
Yeah, it turns out not super popular.
But you know who's super popular?
unidentified
Who?
dan friesen
Alex fucking Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, damn it.
alex jones
Again, we just showed you the Comcast numbers, and quite frankly, they don't track everything, so they show us at 170-something of the World Wide Web.
Anthony, go over this.
It's not about bragging about InfoWars.
It's about people understanding what jokes they are.
I mean, they're the big ivory towers owned by the Mexican kingpins and owned by the Chinese.
And again, people say, oh, you don't like Chinese?
The Chinese government that killed 80 plus million of its own people that has mobile execution vans that announced they're buying all six Hollywood.
I mean, that's official.
I mean, I was already told when I was in Hollywood 10 years ago, going out there.
I was already told, oh my God, the Chinese are buying everything.
Now it's a, remember I said the Chinese, And the Arabs are buying Hollywood.
Oh, you cook, you shut up, you know, you're covering up for blah, blah, blah.
I was just going with what people were telling me in Hollywood.
I mean, major producers.
I mean, as big as they get, okay?
I've had breakfast, you name it, with the biggest ones.
And we're sitting there, and people ask, well, why would they want to have breakfast with you?
Because I'm talking about the real world, folks.
They know mainstream TV's for idiots.
When you know about this is when you go to the big dinners.
It's when you have dinner with three-star generals.
And I'm not bragging, but they want you literally thinking Jay-Z and all this crap's cool and calling us conspiracy theorists because we're conversant in how the real world works.
So I told you 10 years ago the Chinese and the Muslims, the Saudi Arabians, were taking over Hollywood.
Now it's official.
Now it's official.
Go ahead, Anthony.
jordan holmes
When's it official?
unidentified
So you're talking about Matt Judge, right?
dan friesen
You can tell Alex is a little bit amped up.
unidentified
Little bit.
dan friesen
Little bit all over the place.
jordan holmes
Little bit.
dan friesen
He's fucked up.
jordan holmes
I do like that.
Here's what happens in his mind.
The globalists go to somebody like Ron Howard and they're like, hey, Ron, I know you don't want to do this, but you're going to have to have breakfast with Alex Jones in order to try and convince him to help us kill everybody.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You're going to have to do it.
He's had breakfast with everybody else.
It's your turn, Ron Howard.
dan friesen
Yep.
Grazer.
I had dinner with him last week.
unidentified
Exactly, yeah!
dan friesen
Look, I know you don't want to do it, but he has dinner with three-star generals.
He knows what's up.
jordan holmes
The only person who won't actually talk to him is Nicolas Cage, and that's because I don't know.
dan friesen
Because he's too busy in his pyramid that he built or whatever.
jordan holmes
No, that's his mausoleum for when he dies.
dan friesen
Excuse me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on.
That's his tomb.
dan friesen
So anyway, I don't know if you've heard about this yet, but Alex's traffic is way up.
jordan holmes
I have heard.
alex jones
They need to know.
unidentified
We're winning.
alex jones
We're not just saying we're getting 50 million extra views a week now.
We are.
dan friesen
Okay.
This first half hour of the show is almost entirely Alex and Anthony Gucci already bragging about how popular InfoWars is.
It's bizarre.
It seems completely out of place for how someone might want to spend their time on the day before the election.
And Alex sounds fucking spun.
Like, it's nuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he loves it.
dan friesen
Honestly, if I didn't know that this was the day before the election, I would have It's a desert!
It's a desert of content!
jordan holmes
Jesus.
So ironic.
He was doing so well when Trump was campaigning, and he went from 172 in the U.S. to not allowed.
Not allowed on the list.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's pretty wild.
Quite a swing.
Slash A. So, Alex is pretty peeved about people who misinterpret Trump's comments about Mexican-Americans and immigrants.
jordan holmes
Oh, the racist ones where he wants them all to be...
dan friesen
He has said some racist things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex, you know, he relates to Trump because he's said things that people have misinterpreted.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think so.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
That's why I have such a kinship with Donald Trump, because I see him go through the same stuff.
You know, Mexico...
Latin America, great people.
Hire a lot of them.
Wonderful, hard-working people.
You know, really good people.
But I'll tell you, a lot of criminals are coming across, and they let them come across, and a lot of rapists, a lot of killers, and you gotta do something about that.
You just can't have the border completely wide open and just let people be here.
You know, a lot of bad people coming in.
Yeah, Mexico, a lot of bad people, a lot of criminals, and then they would just lie and say, he said, all Mexicans.
It's what they do.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
When Mexico bitches and says, don't send your criminals down here, we don't go, oh, you're being racist.
Everybody knows it's where you run.
You run to Mexico because they have no extradition.
dan friesen
That's not true.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, that's so not true.
That's an incredibly untrue.
Mexico, of all places, would not have...
The Mexico that allows our DEA agents to run rampant through their fucking streets doesn't...
dan friesen
Mexico and America doesn't have an extradition treaty that we do definitely have.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's...
I wonder if Alex thinks that for real, or if he just lost track of a sentence.
jordan holmes
I think that's probably a...
Yeah, I might as well just end it like that.
dan friesen
I think it's like, I've seen movies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, it's a little bit like that.
I know what an extradition treaty is.
dan friesen
If you just listen to Outlaw Country, you might think that all you have to do is get to the border, and then you're home free.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's not real.
It's not like that worked for Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, you know?
dan friesen
All the federalists say...
Wait, poncho and lefty.
That's all Alex knows about laws.
Anyway, Alex has done a straw poll, a grassroots poll.
jordan holmes
98% in favor of Trump.
It's a really wild number.
dan friesen
He's found that all the Democrats don't like Hillary.
alex jones
Every Democrat I talk to in person, I mean, almost every Democrat I talk to goes, I mean, my mom has friends that are Democrats, lifelong Democrats, and I get, like, the 60s, that's how I like to get a grip to be in, you know?
Claiming it was for race relations and all the rest of it.
It was a bait and switch to fool a bunch of 60s kids.
These women run up to me just hugging me.
My mom had a Halloween party.
Just a cookout.
I was over there just, oh Alex, oh you're so right.
Oh Donald Trump.
unidentified
Oh God help him.
alex jones
Oh she's so evil.
These women are the same age as Hillary Clinton.
One of them looks like Hillary Clinton.
dan friesen
One of them looks like her.
jordan holmes
Wow.
I mean, if you look like Hillary Clinton and you don't like Hillary Clinton, that clearly means that everything...
Obviously, she's not a popular candidate.
People who look like her don't even want her to be...
dan friesen
I'm not certain that this friend of Alex's mom does look like Hillary Clinton.
I think it could be a hallucination.
No, I think Alex might just be seeing Hillary Clinton.
We already know that he thinks that demons yell at him in the grocery store.
jordan holmes
That's true.
He may be haunted by Hillary Clinton, but from the ring, I guess.
dan friesen
So the thing there, though, is that these people aren't so much saying that Trump is great.
They're saying that Hillary is bad.
It's still like the...
There's some positive talk about Trump on this episode.
I can't deny that at all.
But the focus is very much still just like, she sucks, she's a demon.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is hard to remember, but there was a time whenever people in quote-unquote polite society didn't actively and outwardly say, I would prefer non-white people to be second-class citizens.
And then Trump got elected, and we went from Alex saying like, oh, I hate Hillary, and you know, Trump says some things.
And I've been misinterpreted before.
It's like, I want to kill!
unidentified
Kill!
jordan holmes
Kill!
dan friesen
There are subtle differences between his behavior.
Yes, that is true.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
What do you think about the national anthem?
jordan holmes
Racist?
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
I was going to go with...
unidentified
What is it?
jordan holmes
Fourth Versus Super Racist?
dan friesen
I was going to go with Powerful.
jordan holmes
Oh, I was not.
alex jones
I never knew why as a kid I'd get a tear in my eye during the Star Spangled Banner or during the Pledge of Allegiance.
But it was a sense, a psychic sense of what people done for that and why it was under attack and why it was so important.
And now I know.
Now I know why they want to pull America down and why we're the testing ground of all the GMO and all the poison and all the garbage.
It's because they hate us, folks.
The globalists can't compete with this system.
We're announcing a once...
We've never even done this before, actually.
Maybe this comes around once a year.
The total, absolute biggest sale across the board.
dan friesen
Wow.
That is a nice, nice Jonesian pivot.
That was pretty impressive.
jordan holmes
That one, you know what?
We've been out of 2015 for so long.
2016, baby.
No, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, in our time.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So I've kind of forgotten how good his ad pivots used to be.
dan friesen
That one wasn't.
jordan holmes
At least how surprising they used to be.
dan friesen
Yeah, that one was jarring.
jordan holmes
That one came out of nowhere.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That was just a shock, and it was so smooth.
It was like it was meant to be there, but instead it made my brain hurt.
dan friesen
I think that we have different opinions on it.
I don't think it was that smooth, but I think we agree it was way out of nowhere.
jordan holmes
It was not good.
dan friesen
So Alex has a big narrative that he's pushing, and that is that Barack Obama had told someone at a speech, a Q&A session kind of thing, that people who can't vote should vote, and he's not going to do anything about it.
He's no snitch.
jordan holmes
I don't remember that one.
dan friesen
Well, Alex plays the clip of it here.
jordan holmes
I don't remember Barack Obama.
dan friesen
I think you can pretty easily suss out what the misunderstanding is.
alex jones
Here is Obama agreeing that we won't go after you illegals if you vote.
unidentified
Many of the millennials, dreamers, undocumented citizens, and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country, are fearful of voting.
So if I vote, will immigration know where I live?
Will they come from my family and deport us?
Not true.
And the reason is, first of all, when you vote...
barack obama
You are a citizen yourself, and there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc.
dan friesen
So you can tell that he's responding to her.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
When you vote, you are...
Because you can't register to vote.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
You don't have the required...
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure that that exactly equals Obama hearing a question about should everybody vote and being like, yeah, come on!
I'm not gonna come out.
What am I gonna send somebody to your house?
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
Get on out of there!
unidentified
Come on!
dan friesen
The concern that this person was bringing up is that there are people who may have...
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
In the same way that we've seen ICE do.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
No, I would definitely trust the American government.
dan friesen
And that's one of the ways that voter disenfranchisement can be done, by having immigration folks at polls, and people might be intimidated away from going.
jordan holmes
It's the definition of terrorism.
I mean, the idea is to go in, terrify a population, and then spread that terror throughout everybody in the entire country in order to influence people politically.
ICE is a terrorist organization.
dan friesen
So, Alex, on a recent episode from 2020 that we heard, we heard about him starting up a voter fraud email address.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Vote at Infowars.com.
jordan holmes
That's very smart.
dan friesen
That people can send tips to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, guess what?
He did that.
alex jones
Vote at Infowars.com is where you report what's happening with the vote.
It's flooding in.
Dead people.
Illegals.
The president's on TV saying illegals.
We won't prosecute you.
dan friesen
You can vote.
That email may have been active the whole time.
jordan holmes
That's been active the whole fucking time!
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
He didn't deactivate it and then restart it.
That's bullshit.
dan friesen
So now Alex gets to...
jordan holmes
Now I want to hear 2012, 2208, and fucking go on back.
How long has that email address been there?
dan friesen
Probably just 2016.
So Alex has a guest on this episode.
He actually has an interview with Larry Nichols that I found no clips from.
Wow.
It's so boring.
jordan holmes
On the night before the election, Larry Nichols can't...
Day.
Day before...
Apologies.
Can't come up with shit.
dan friesen
Just witch.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just Hillary sucks.
unidentified
Hillary sucks.
jordan holmes
Everybody needs paper ballots.
That's true.
I agree with Larry.
dan friesen
So, he has another guest, though, here.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And it's someone that Alex probably doesn't want to be associated with now.
Too messy, maybe.
But it's someone who he decided to have on on the day before the election in 2016.
alex jones
Will there be unrest?
Are they going to steal it?
Is it a landslide for Trump?
I want to get his take on all of this.
Stefan Molyneux, I mean, can you feel the energy, my friend?
stefan molyneux
I've got to tell you, Alex, I've never been a big sports fan for watching sports, but getting pulled into this election cycle and being so interested in the outcome, it's kind of like watching a football game where the winning team gets to rule Western civilization for the next thousand years.
alex jones
Pretty damn important.
stefan molyneux
It is quite an intense time.
alex jones
So it's the most important game ever.
dan friesen
So you guys believe that since Trump won, he gets to rule Western civilization?
jordan holmes
Ah, boy.
Oh, boy.
I don't think I want a self-declared white nationalist choosing who is going to rule for a thousand years.
dan friesen
Stefan has not self-declared that yet.
He hasn't been to Poland.
jordan holmes
Apologies.
dan friesen
At this point, he was still just painfully, obviously white nationalist.
unidentified
And playing that game of like, ooh, you call me names.
dan friesen
That's not an argument.
Okay, buddy.
jesse james
Cool.
dan friesen
So, Stefan really does not waste any time getting pretty crypto with his racism.
jordan holmes
There we go.
stefan molyneux
If the Democrats get in, they're going to legalize, of course, all the illegal immigrants.
We already know that the media is largely in the tank for them, and they will be unbeatable statistically for pretty much ever.
dan friesen
So, you know, this is all just the demographic replacement, demographic shift kind of argument that is meant to strike up fear in the American code for white folk.
jordan holmes
I like how normalized it is for people on the right to just be like...
Yeah, if everybody voted, we'd lose every time.
So we don't do that, and everybody just goes along with it.
alex jones
Isn't that wild?
dan friesen
Yeah, and there's literally no chance that we could ever win over a voting bloc.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
We're evil.
dan friesen
Our policies are not appealing.
jordan holmes
We have whipped the media so bad that they just go, and this is part of our system.
dan friesen
Now, let's imagine that this large group of immigrants that were to come in were to be enfranchised.
People naturalized in mass and given voting rights.
Why do you think that your side with the better policies...
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
jordan holmes
We never said we had better policies.
dan friesen
Well, they do say that.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, we say that, but we don't mean it.
dan friesen
Why would they think that these people would be incapable of saying, like, hey, you know what?
I think I would like to vote with Stefan and his dumb ideas.
jordan holmes
Dan, as Jared Kushner let us know, it's because they don't want to be successful, Dan.
That's the problem with the rest of us.
We don't want it, Dan.
dan friesen
Well, I would say that...
jordan holmes
I'm sure we weren't born with millions of dollars.
That also helps.
Sure.
We don't want it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Stefan believes that the left Democrats, they're the ones who are really racist.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he has an interesting argument why.
jordan holmes
I like to hear it.
stefan molyneux
But the left, you know this as well as I do, I'm sure.
But it may be new to your to your audience, Alex.
The left doesn't care about minorities.
They don't care about women.
They care that good people want equality for the races.
They care that good people want equality for the for the gender, for the sexes.
And so what they do is they say, well, we care about blacks.
Well, how much do they care about Clarence Thomas or Herman Cain or other black Republicans?
Well, they generally try to destroy and smear and all that.
How much do they care about some of the amazing women who were on the right?
Yeah, it's not about...
It's trying to take our natural care and concern for equality between the races and the genders and turning it against us.
dan friesen
That's so dumb.
Like, his argument is that, you know, hey, oh, you say you like black people, what about Clarence Thomas?
It's like, okay, well then I'll just turn that around.
You say you like women, what about Hillary Clinton?
jordan holmes
Whoa, whoa, whoa, she's a demon.
dan friesen
Right, I mean, do you think that your aversion to Hillary Clinton might be based on a disagreement with her policies?
Okay, well, I don't like Clarence Thomas' beliefs.
unidentified
Okay, oh, uh-oh, philosopher king, Stefan Molyneux!
jordan holmes
I've got an easy way to rebut that that also proves how not racist or misogynist I am.
Dan, I hate white nationalists of all races, genders, creeds, or backgrounds, Dan.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
You can make it simpler than that, though.
His flawed reasoning is much simpler.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, it's stupid.
dan friesen
Much, much easier.
jordan holmes
It's stupid.
dan friesen
So, Stefan, he believes that...
Democrats, right?
They're addicted to power.
unidentified
Power!
jordan holmes
It doesn't sound like that.
dan friesen
They need power!
jordan holmes
It seems like they're doing everything possible to avoid it.
stefan molyneux
I think the key thing to understand for me about the left, Alex, is that it's impossible to really fathom their motives and their machinations without understanding that they're addicts to power.
And if you've ever known somebody, and I hope you haven't, but if you have ever known somebody in your life who's a real addict, whether it's sex or gambling or drugs or alcohol or whatever, They will do anything to get their drug of choice.
They will step over bodies.
They will destroy their lives.
They will lose their savings, their marriage, their relationships with their children.
alex jones
Look at the Clintons!
Everywhere they go, we learn.
The State Department, you name it.
White House, they steal everything.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
I will argue that those two will do everything possible to keep people that they want to hold captive from actually listening to anyone on the left.
At no point in time are they like, talk to them and listen to what they say.
No, no, no.
It doesn't matter what they say, Dan.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
What's really going on is something completely different.
unidentified
They're addicted to power.
jordan holmes
They're addicted to power.
That's why they're saying all that stuff.
Sure, it sounds nice to be a good person.
Wrong!
They're addicted to power!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Stefan had a bad interview, I would say, but Alex is thrilled, and he wants to have him back on more regularly until now, when it's way too messy to have Stefan Mominou around.
jordan holmes
Good idea.
dan friesen
Because he'll just start talking about phrenology or some shit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think the left is really racist is just gone now.
I'm really racist.
I love it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
His argument now is that the left should be more racist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
I am incredibly racist and it's awesome.
jordan holmes
Fucking love it!
dan friesen
So Alex, after we were talking to Stefan Molyneux and the two of them sort of having an agreement that this is like an exciting sports game, but they don't really like sports.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
Alex has some complaints about sports and thinks that men should not watch sports.
alex jones
They teach us to be lackadaisical, not care.
They want us to take our normal instincts to be politically and culturally involved and put it onto the prosthesis.
Of sports.
That's like having sex with a blow-up doll, folks.
It isn't real.
Not against sports or anything, but I played sports.
But if you're not watching family or anything yourself, it's a joke.
That's not what grown men do.
It's business and life and your family and your house in order.
That's where you have all this wargaming and knowing factoids.
Not, you know, what size jockstrap some guy wears, you know, that's in the NFL you like.
You know, men slapping each other on the butts.
I mean, it's fine if you want to do that in your own private time, but that's not our religion is what I'm getting at.
dan friesen
He's trying to make liking sports kind of something he can gay bash.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
That's interesting.
dan friesen
That's very weird.
jordan holmes
That's interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I find it so interesting how many almost certainly Roll Tide people.
Listen to InfoWars who are like, yeah, no, I'm pretty sure that football makes me, wait, what?
dan friesen
I don't think that anybody who's into sabermetrics and statistics and fantasy football, I don't think that jockstrap size is one of the things that they track.
jordan holmes
Well, they do wingspan, foot size.
I don't know if they've gotten to dicks yet, but I think we're coming.
dan friesen
I used to collect basketball cards, and I don't feel like these are the sort of relevant stuff.
That's the stats that sports fans are into.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, we all knew how good Big Dick Johnson was.
dan friesen
And I would say that complaining about people slapping asses in congratulations is like kind of hacky 90s comedy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Did Tim Allen do that one?
dan friesen
So, like I said, the real tone here is very much like Hillary's probably going to steal the election, but what are you going to do?
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
alex jones
And we've reached this tipping point now.
Where people are into politics, they're awake, they're involved, and Donald Trump was just that magic little sprinkle in this whole recipe that is just exploding.
And there's going to be more.
So don't freak out if they steal it.
We're going to war game that with some former Navy SEALs and other folks tomorrow.
dan friesen
So yeah, don't freak out if they steal the election.
There's going to be more patriots and more fight against the globalists to come.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
You know, if Hillary gets in, rest easy, my friends.
The fight continues, not she will open up a chasm of hell and demons will spawn forth.
jordan holmes
Isn't that crazy?
It took so little time for everyone to go from like, hey, look, sometimes the Democrats steal elections, we're going to get through it, to like, Biden's going to win by a mile and they're like, it's the fucking end of the world!
dan friesen
You know what's outrageous about it, too, is that, like, he hates Hillary Clinton, like, for decades.
jordan holmes
Decades.
dan friesen
There's no built-in, like, real hatred of Joe Biden.
I mean, I know that he didn't like Obama's presidency and Biden's involved with that, but he's never super focused on Biden.
For it to be the end of the world when Biden is running and it to be like, eh, Hillary might win, what are you going to do?
When Hillary's running, it's outrageous.
jordan holmes
It's just insane.
I'm just so mad all the time now.
dan friesen
All the time.
It's very strange.
Just furious.
But I think, again, if you look at it from a really cynical perspective, it's because at this point, I don't think...
That Alex has completely lost his mind.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he knows that he can still profit.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
If Hillary wins, he can profit off it.
And that's why, hey, maybe it's even better if they steal it.
Because he can profit off that.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I think that he thought that he could profit off Trump, but I think he has.
But I think that he recognizes that...
You can't go back now.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Like, if Biden wins, there's no way to keep the info war going.
You've got to go to war!
jordan holmes
The info war is over.
The info part of it is gone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Trump winning is the only way that his racket can continue, and that's why you see the behavior that you see.
At least that's my sense of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So he has another guest, and it's not Larry Nichols, but it is someone else who's...
I don't know where the fuck this dude is anymore.
He's certainly not around.
jordan holmes
The guy from Fastball?
dan friesen
No.
He's a hippie.
He's a chiropractor.
jordan holmes
Oh boy!
dan friesen
It's Dr. Group!
jordan holmes
It's Dr. Group!
dr ed group
Now remember we had in the past, we had nasal mist vaccines, but this year they're recommending only injectable.
jordan holmes
Why is that?
unidentified
There's two different vaccines that are extremely dangerous this year.
jordan holmes
A high dose shot for older people.
unidentified
Now remember...
alex jones
Oh, special just for you.
unidentified
65 and older.
alex jones
We don't want to give you your retirement.
Bye-bye.
Logan's Run Carousel.
dan friesen
So Alex and Dr. Group are taking the piss out of flu shots.
jordan holmes
We are going to need those old people to avoid getting flu shots so they can sacrifice themselves while going to work for all of our COVID needs.
dan friesen
So Dr. Group has got a prediction here.
dr ed group
This has all been going on during the election.
alex jones
Nobody even knows about this.
dr ed group
I'm breaking this for the first time because I think it's so important.
This is, mark my words, one of the worst flu seasons and will create the most damage ever in the history of the world.
alex jones
And I'm not saying that to scare people.
No, it's definitely there, but I mean, it's good to warn you.
The Earth's overpopulated.
Take your shot.
It's...
dan friesen
According to the CDC, the 2016-2017 flu season was slightly worse than the 2015-2016 season, but much milder than the two previous seasons as well as the 2017-2018 season.
I have marked Dr. Group's words, and what do you know?
A chiropractor's sensational prediction was inaccurate.
What a shock.
jordan holmes
That's wild.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
I thought he would have some sort of insight that other doctors who had maybe studied these types of things for their entire lives would have.
You know, as an outsider, he could really shake things up.
Yeah.
I think he's just an idiot.
dan friesen
I think he's a chiropractor.
jordan holmes
I think he's a chiropractor.
dan friesen
Anyway, he has some good advice for you.
By that I mean bad advice.
jordan holmes
Don't get the flu shot.
alex jones
Do your research before you get the flu shot this year.
That's racist.
Take it and get your coffin ready.
unidentified
Save yourself.
alex jones
No, no, no.
It's liberal.
Take it.
unidentified
Liberal.
dan friesen
It's a liberal.
unidentified
Take it.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, don't get a flu shot from a chiropractor group.
jordan holmes
Don't get a flu shot from Dr. Group.
dan friesen
No, I agree.
That might be good advice.
unidentified
That's strong.
dan friesen
The advice not to get a flu shot coming from Dr. Group.
jordan holmes
Bad.
dan friesen
Bad.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So, all liberals.
Are against Hillary.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
According to Alex.
jordan holmes
I think all leftists are.
dan friesen
Well, that distinction wasn't really real to Alex at this point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, all liberals are against Hillary.
And the reason that it would be bad if she got in is really interesting here.
alex jones
Every real liberal, like Julian Assange, Bev Harris, you name it, Jill Stein is against Hillary and say she wants World War III because she does.
She makes terrible decisions.
She cannot be challenged.
She must have her way.
You can't do that with China and Russia.
dan friesen
Wait, wait.
Isn't that what you're applauding Trump for doing?
jordan holmes
That is literally one for one exactly what you're so happy with Trump.
dan friesen
Trump is such a man.
He'll stand up to China.
He'll get our way with China.
You can't trust Hillary.
alex jones
She wants her way against China.
jordan holmes
She wants to stand up against China and Russia.
What a terrible person.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Wow.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Wow, this is hard to go into the past and hear the exact same shit, but different.
dan friesen
Wrong!
It's really interesting.
jordan holmes
Makes me mad!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's shockingly bleh, in a way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
What I could never have predicted, based on the last four years of this show, and listening to so much Alex Jones, is that you'd go back to the day before the election, and Alex would be so lackadaisical, sort of like, hey, Hillary might steal it, what are you gonna do?
It's fucked up!
It's not fair!
jordan holmes
It isn't.
It isn't.
You expect him to be screaming.
It's just not.
It's just not fair.
dan friesen
It's another day for him.
unidentified
This is so infuriating.
Isn't that?
jordan holmes
It's amazing how...
That should be a fucking...
That's how stable Obama made the fucking country.
That's how stable it was.
It's not good.
By no stretch.
But it was fucking stable as shit to the point where Alex is like, hey, you fucking steal an election!
What are you gonna do?
They're evil!
dan friesen
So at this point, Alex decides he's gonna really swing and start fake crying.
alex jones
Let me tell you, I could get lost hiking and kayaking and painting and cooking.
I used to be a great cook.
Oh, man, I love cooking steaks or chicken or casseroles.
I used to be a great cook.
I'm a great cook.
I could just so easily work eight hours a day and just go home and cook food and hang out with my kids.
I want you so bad.
Here's the deal.
There's bad people coming after my kids.
jordan holmes
You?
alex jones
And I try not to cry out of the air, but this is the whole future of the country lined up here.
And it's not crying because I'm sad.
It's crying because I feel extremely violent.
I mean, I don't want Hillary Clinton as president.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm crying, but it's manly.
jordan holmes
No matter how many times he says it, I'm gonna need him to back up this.
He keeps saying that he likes painting.
I need one.
I need an Alex original.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I put it out on social media that I would like to buy an Alex Jones painting, and I've got no response.
No response.
At press time, we have no proof.
jordan holmes
I think it's bullshit.
I think it's the thing that he thinks would make him sound so fucking cultured.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, and interesting.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And talented.
jordan holmes
I paint.
dan friesen
I have diverse interests.
Sure you do.
jordan holmes
I'm a renaissance man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets to rambling about how the man, right?
The globalists?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
They don't want farmers.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Because farmers are self-sufficient.
unidentified
No, they won't.
dan friesen
What have you?
jordan holmes
We need food.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Robots.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
They don't want what Thomas Jefferson wrote about yeoman farmers.
Hard-working, smart people that are confident and good.
I'll tell you right now, if you read history, the globalists are so scared of farmers.
Because what are farmers?
They're families.
They're men.
They're women.
They're self-sufficient people.
jordan holmes
They grow things.
alex jones
They're close to the earth.
They're strong.
They don't want you to be a farmer.
They want you to be under their control.
jordan holmes
Like Thomas Jefferson.
alex jones
I'm not going to belabor this.
We're running specials right now that undoubtedly fund the very tip of the fiery spear.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Real good.
jordan holmes
That one was real bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That one was real bad.
dan friesen
Just as out of nowhere, I don't want you to be farmers and self-sufficient by my stuff.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to belabor this any longer.
Whatever it was I was talking about, because I forgot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what he just said.
I forgot where I was going.
dan friesen
Yep.
So at this point in the show, Alex decides to get into his history with abortion.
Sure.
And as we know, we've heard him talk about this a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I probably would have just ignored it because it's rehashing a topic, but he spends quite a while on it.
jordan holmes
Do we get any new details?
Yes, we do.
Some salacious details.
dan friesen
The first is, I would say that Stefan Molyneux, though he fancies himself a philosopher, failed on some basic reasoning and logic issues.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's because he's actually very stupid.
dan friesen
Yes.
Now, Alex is getting into a very interesting ethical distinction that I would like to talk about after this clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because what he proposes as an ethical system I believe is unsustainable in the real world.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
alex jones
If you've paid for abortions because you were lied to or didn't know what was happening, God's not going to judge you as long as you admit, I shouldn't have done that for birth control.
I was told.
I was deceived.
I forgive myself.
I forgive.
You know, what I did, and may the baby please forgive me, and will God forgive me, and just freeze you.
But if not, it becomes a human sacrifice.
Not when you did it, but later when you learn about it, and your heart's touched by the Holy Spirit, and you don't do anything about it, then you're committed to that evil.
And look, I'm somebody who am purely honest, and I've paid for quite a few abortions.
I remember my dad, I was like 16, and I was scrounging around trying to get money and stuff, and he's like, son, you need to find a woman to get married if you want to, but you need to stop killing my grandkids.
I'll never forget that I was 16, and he's there looking at me and I already paid for like five abortions.
dan friesen
So that's fucked up, but just to be clear, I don't think that people getting reproductive health care is wrong.
I don't think that there's any ethical problem with abortion or anything like that.
I think it's all above board.
Yeah, but...
Allowing to just play with the ideas Alex is saying.
Sure.
If there is an act, ex-act, that is totally fine to do, but then later can become a human sacrifice, you have a very ethical dilemma, because the act itself can't be wrong if doing it is not wrong.
Sure.
Until...
You believe it to be wrong.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's only wrong once you have decided it's wrong and deny that it's wrong.
jordan holmes
You know, that sounds like the ethical system of, I think I would call it a malignant narcissistic psychopath?
dan friesen
It's nihilistic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because the act itself has to be morally completely neutral.
There can be no ethical implication to it.
What is wrong is your eventual feelings about it.
jordan holmes
Right.
I would argue that it's actually a very normal thing for religious people, especially born-again ones, to harshly, harshly judge everyone who commits the sins that they are absolutely forgiven for.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, and what about this?
What about the possibility that, I mean, God forbid you die before...
You make up your mind.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Then ethically, what is the act?
jordan holmes
Purgatory.
Obviously.
That's why God invented purgatory and he put it in the Bible that we all know about.
dan friesen
It's just strange.
It's strange to have this sort of ethical punting.
I guess.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good way of putting it, because it is literally going, I killed a person.
It feels fine right now.
I'll deal with this when it happens.
I'll deal with this when the time is right.
dan friesen
That's a bit much.
jordan holmes
When the Holy Spirit touches me.
dan friesen
So Alex is saying that when he was 16, his dad was confronting him about this.
alex jones
I'll never forget that I was 16. He's there looking at me.
I already paid for like five abortions.
He said, I want you to stop killing my grandkids.
And after that, I promised myself I would never do that again.
And then I got a woman pregnant, got married, had kids.
It's been wonderful.
dan friesen
That is not true.
jordan holmes
No, there were several more abortions between 16 and when you got married.
dan friesen
Later in this episode, Alex says he was getting abortions when he was 18. That's two years later.
And he said he had five.
He paid for five before he was 16. We've heard him say he's had at least ten that he's paid for.
But again, that's not to shame or say anything wrong with...
It's just, Alex, you're being inconsistent.
Something is not right about these stories.
jordan holmes
I give a fuck about his abortions, and I care so deeply about the fact that he says everyone who has an abortion should be killed.
dan friesen
I agree.
But also, part of me wonders if it's all made up.
Yeah.
unidentified
Because it does really fit into that same sort of story as the youth pastor who wants to lie to you about their wild days and stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It does kind of have that feel.
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
There's something true, and he's riffing off of that.
dan friesen
There's a kernel of something somewhere.
jordan holmes
Because youth pastors have the story down pat, and it's delivered the same way every single time, like a stand-up set.
They travel around, they do their youth conferences.
dan friesen
The youth pastor will have taken a hit off a joint one time.
And then turn that into three years in an opium bed.
jordan holmes
I couldn't go anywhere.
I couldn't do anything.
unidentified
I was just so happy laying on the couch, man.
dan friesen
So there's a decent chance that the reality of this is Alex had one that he paid for, and now the guilt that he feels around that is turned into...
Whatever it is, it smacks to me of just unresolved feelings.
jordan holmes
Honestly, I don't even think he feels guilt about it.
I think he's just full of shit.
dan friesen
That's possible.
Anyway, Alex leaves after rambling about this stuff for a while.
This was very much not a show that I would have expected to be the day before the election.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
Pretty thin.
jordan holmes
Just rambling about how many abortions you've paid for.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then David Knight takes over.
unidentified
52-hour live election broadcast.
It has begun.
david knight
We're now in hour number four of that 52-hour broadcast.
I just asked the guys in the booth, I said, what's on special right now?
Because we have to fund this operation, folks.
Basically, they said pretty much everything is on massive sales.
Let me just run down some of these things here.
dan friesen
Keep on selling, Grandpa!
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
David Knight saying stick with me for 52 hours is my true nightmare.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I have dreams that are going to be just...
I'll be here with you for 52 hours.
dan friesen
I will say that I could not listen to this whole thing.
There was a part of me that thought, like, I'm going to do it.
jordan holmes
No, you are not going to do it.
dan friesen
Circumstances dictated that I could not.
jordan holmes
You're not going to do it.
You're not going to do it.
dan friesen
So I skipped ahead to an Alex Show's backup in the evening of the 7th.
And he came in for one reason.
alex jones
Jesse James.
Everybody knows him from one of the top reality TV stars ever with gun shows and car shows and motorcycle shows.
I've known James like six years.
We've been friends for a while.
He's working with Trump.
He's friends with Trump.
One of the first people that told me like five years ago that Trump was a patriot.
I should be looking for Trump to make a move.
He called me up a few days ago and he said, I'm ready to come on.
dan friesen
I'm ready to come on the show, man.
So let's do it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Let's do it in the evening of the day before the election.
jordan holmes
Noted domestic abuser.
dan friesen
Jesse James.
So, Alex is on again, mostly because Jesse James has agreed to be on the show, and so I gotta interview this celebrity.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But also, Roger Stone wants to call in.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Is he a huge Jesse James fan?
No.
Jesse's not there yet.
He's on his way to the studio.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
Roger calls in, and he has kind of a, Trump might win, kind of feeling.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Very much not like...
jordan holmes
What a fucking lunatic.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he also...
If you need evidence that Roger Stone is on the payroll on November 7th, 2016, I present you with this.
alex jones
What is the real state of this now, central time, three hours and 40-something minutes out from the day of the election?
unidentified
First of all, Alex, let me say that...
In all honesty, and you didn't pay me to say this, you didn't prompt me to say this, and I didn't warn you that I was going to say this.
But if it were not for brain force right now, I would be completely non-functional.
It really gives you mental clarity and a little boost of energy when you just got to give a little more.
dan friesen
Amazing.
Amazing.
jordan holmes
Roger, you're on the team.
dan friesen
You're either fishing for a job or you've already been hired.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
The ad read, too.
That was copy.
dan friesen
Wouldn't you just need a little more?
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That's a fucking...
What is this, Folgers?
dan friesen
So in this conversation that the two of them have, I get a very strong sense that Alex is preparing for a loss.
alex jones
If Trump wins, though, as Michael Morton makes...
The biggest FU of the establishment ever.
A seismic shock.
But regardless, it looks like he's pulling ahead to me and a lot of other folks.
You're saying that in the polls.
Regardless, it's a huge victory that globalism is on its heels.
Nationalism is rising.
This whole movement has taken us light years into the future in our fight against the NWO.
dan friesen
So even if he loses, we've made so much progress.
The globalists are on their heels.
We can all feel good about that.
We can take this as a win.
We're light years ahead of where we were against the New World Order.
jordan holmes
You know, I guess, in a way, it kind of does make sense, though, for Alex to be freaking out so hard now in comparison to 2016.
Because this must...
Like, in 2016, this was like, oh, wow, we got Trump, but obviously Hillary's gonna win.
Everybody was like, obviously Hillary's gonna win.
That guy's fucking insane.
So now, it is kind of a situation where they're like...
Our insane guy got in.
There's no way this is ever going to happen again.
Everybody saw what happens when insane guy is in there.
We gotta keep him in there or they're gonna keep us away as fast as possible.
So it kind of makes sense in a way.
dan friesen
It does seem like we've gotta keep the engineers away or else they'll plug up the holes in the boat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Uh, yeah.
I don't know how to make sense of it other than, like, I just don't think that Alex...
jordan holmes
I mean, they're so used to the crazy guy not winning.
They love the crazy guy.
They love Ron Paul.
He never wins.
We're not worried about that.
I assume if Ron Paul had ever won and then destroyed democracy, he'd be like, we gotta do everything we can!
Ron Paul's never winning again, man!
alex jones
This isn't happening!
dan friesen
It would have played out way differently if Ron Paul had won.
jordan holmes
I guess we would have invaded Cuba?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets preoccupied with something, and that is that Gary Johnson's running mate had some positive comments about Hillary.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex now wants Roger to denounce Gary Johnson.
Because Roger...
unidentified
There's nothing more independent than denouncing someone for speaking their mind.
dan friesen
Well, Roger and Gary Johnson are past associates.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so Alex needs to wash his hands of Gary.
alex jones
Donald Trump and all of us took over the Republican Party.
The liberals, the Democrats, took over the Libertarians.
And at this point, with Gary Johnson halfway stomping for Hillary, well openly doing it, I want to play this clip.
I think it's in the name of the Republic.
You've been very classy, and I'm not a guy that wants to stab Prince in the back.
I know you were the head of his campaign for a while.
Last time, Gary Johnson, who I liked before, because there wasn't any choice, sure, I'd support a libertarian.
Gary Johnson may be the man that actually hands Hillary the destruction of Western civilization and nuclear war and may destroy the planet.
So I want to play this clip and ask you about Gary Johnson.
dan friesen
That was a little...
jordan holmes
That was a little quick.
unidentified
We yada-yada'd past the eventual destruction of the planet really quick.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, Hitler's going to nuke the world and it's Gary Johnson's fault.
Will you denounce him?
jordan holmes
I think Gary Johnson would be proud to take credit like that.
dan friesen
So Alex keeps pushing on Roger.
He's like, you gotta fucking denounce him.
alex jones
Just to be honest, Stone, come on.
I mean, somebody needs to be...
I'm just telling you right now, what do you have to say about these two?
unidentified
Well, I'm really glad you asked this question, but let me dissect this for you at a slightly deeper level.
First of all, I have great affection and great respect for Gary Johnson.
Gary Johnson's record as governor of New Mexico is exemplary.
alex jones
Yeah, he had a pretty good record.
Now he's portrayed everybody.
unidentified
Okay, just hear me out.
dan friesen
Hear me out!
jordan holmes
Alright, alright, calm it down.
dan friesen
I'm Roger goddamn Stone.
jordan holmes
Jesus, man.
dan friesen
I'm gonna get to the shit talking.
jordan holmes
Quit acting like a child for one second!
dan friesen
I'm trying to be diplomatic before I say something awful.
Do you understand?
jordan holmes
I am going to shit on him.
Okay.
dan friesen
I am a shithead in a top hat.
I get away with the shitheadery because I wear a top hat.
jordan holmes
I could shit on his face right now.
He'll hire me in four years.
I'm Roger goddamn Stone.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is the other thing.
I get the sense that, like, Roger thinks that he's going to be employable on the other side of this.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
That's why you got to be like, yes, Gary Johnson is a good man.
His record.
jordan holmes
I've never disparaged him.
dan friesen
I plan on working.
jordan holmes
I definitely don't plan on going to jail.
dan friesen
So, well, he didn't.
jordan holmes
No, that's fair.
dan friesen
So, they have this story that we heard on the last 2016 episode, the Anthony Weiner's laptop.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, man, it's remarkable to me how exactly the same this is with Hunter Biden's laptop.
It is remarkable.
To the point where even...
same person is pushing the story.
roger stone
I'm told that they have told former Mayor Rudy Giuliani that these files do in fact have solid evidence of a consortium of crimes, that the files appear to be essentially, in some cases, blackmail files.
unidentified
There are government documents here that have just been forwarded.
There are all kinds of things that would be communicated.
roger stone
And again, the same words that I'd heard from other police sources, treason, profiteering, pay-for-play, corruption, sexual exploitation of children, again, extraordinary documents pertaining to the Clinton Foundation.
dan friesen
It's all just like reruns.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just the same thing.
jordan holmes
It must be why Rudy was so mad when everybody saw that story and were like, God damn it, we've done this before.
Nobody really felt that they knew exactly when we'd done this before, but we were all like...
We've seen this shit before.
This is exactly the same shit.
It's Rudy Giuliani getting shit and just putting it out there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's also...
The Hunter one has a little bit of a more exciting backstory.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
But, yeah, I mean, it's...
You know, you forget about little details about...
I mean, because everything is so crazy, and there's so much spaghetti being thrown against the wall over and over and over again throughout...
You know, the 2016 election and since.
jordan holmes
No, they've said everything.
dan friesen
You forget, like, I have deja vu.
Oh, it's because we did this exact thing.
jordan holmes
Exact thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So at this point, Jesse James is still on his way to studio.
And so Alex brings in Leanne McAdoo and Joe Biggs, both who are not there anymore.
No, they're doing great.
Leanne's got a really important purpose.
unidentified
Cool.
We just shot a Facebook mention, speaking of that, and by the time I left the thing, it had already gotten 50,000 views, and the topic was on the Clinton Foundation because it's one of the top trending things on Facebook right now.
dan friesen
It's Missy Leanne bragging about traffic.
She comes in to brag about traffic.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
It's a preoccupation that they have.
jordan holmes
Man, this is such a goddamn hubris.
dan friesen
Yeah, oh yeah.
jordan holmes
Slash, like...
Resignation.
It's such a, like, we're gonna be on top forever!
Now Trump's probably not gonna win.
He's not gonna win.
But we're so great!
dan friesen
It's outrageous the level that it is.
Because I have not cut out all the times that they just ramble about their traffic.
But it's incessant.
Just like, we've destroyed CNN!
We've destroyed the mainstream media!
We're on top!
Yeah, it is the, like, we're gonna live forever that someone says right before they fall off a roof.
jordan holmes
That is brutal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is really brutal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, in this next clip, I believe he's talking to Jesse James, or in the middle of introducing him, but Alex fudges his timeline just a tiny bit.
alex jones
I never liked the Democrats.
The Republicans don't deliver on what they say they're doing, but I agree with their platform more.
But with Trump!
I mean, I've gone from like grudgingly supporting him a year and a half ago to like so proud.
That I support him.
This guy, the stamina, the work, the attacks.
dan friesen
A year and a half prior to this would have been, what, May 2015?
Trump didn't announce by that point.
Alex did not support him immediately, grudgingly.
jesse james
Nope.
dan friesen
So yeah, his timeline's a little bit iffy there.
He did not really support Trump until at least the end of 2015.
So Jesse James, you know, I think this is a little bit iffy.
I think that he's very dumb.
In terms of some of the things he says.
You might be able to take this as racist also.
jesse james
I grew up in the hood, man.
I was born in Lidwood and grew up in Southgate and Long Beach and I was like, man, it'd be cool to have a brother as president.
That's what we need.
unidentified
We needed Billy Dee Williams to come in and like, look, this is what it's going to be like.
jesse james
We needed that.
Instead, we got Urkel and then everybody realized like, oh wait, he's a college professor.
And it's like...
If college professors were so great at what they do, how come they're not all billionaires?
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Why are they billionaires?
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I think you could probably debate whether or not it's like, hey, he's not the right kind of black person.
He's the Urkel.
jordan holmes
I don't remember Billy Dee Williams saying, listen up, motherfucker, this is how it's gonna be.
dan friesen
You need to watch Star Wars again.
jordan holmes
No, he didn't do that.
He didn't even do that in the Colt 45 commercials, which, although, that would have been great.
dan friesen
I would say, for me, I don't think...
I don't think I could take anyone seriously.
If they were like, if teachers are so great, why aren't they billionaires?
jordan holmes
I would throw things.
dan friesen
I find that statement to be a little bit dumb.
jordan holmes
I mean, incredibly dumb.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I could answer him seriously.
Like, we could pretend that this is a serious point that he's making.
Sure.
jordan holmes
That would be a good pretense.
dan friesen
Some people have no desire to be billionaires, and some people, instead of being validated strictly by the accumulation of money, find that living a life where you enrich other people's lives and educate and help guide the next generation through educational hurdles.
jordan holmes
Ooh, response to that.
You're a dirty...
Fucking commie.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
I want to be a billionaire.
jordan holmes
Now you're good!
America!
dan friesen
I've been chastised into capitalism.
jordan holmes
That's all it takes.
dan friesen
So apparently, I think that Jesse doesn't like teachers.
alex jones
Teachers teach because they can't do it.
jesse james
Yeah.
Every college professor, when I was in college, they're all disgruntled.
They all feel like everything's stacked against them, and they're all like...
I don't know.
dan friesen
According to biography.com...
Quote, Jesse graduated high school in 1987 and enrolled at Riverside Community College, where he played on the football team and dreamed of somehow making the leap from small school ball to NFL.
However, following two injury-plagued seasons, James quit the team and dropped out of school.
So, I mean, look, there's no shame in going to community colleges or junior colleges, but don't pretend that you have this broad view and you can shit on professors and, yeah, all college professors are all disgruntled and they're all mad.
Don't pretend that you have a full view of the subject.
When you went to community college for two years, probably mostly to play football, it didn't work out, and then you dropped out.
Like, you didn't have a full college experience.
jordan holmes
Do you...
Like, okay.
Alright.
If your view of college professors at a community college, a small community college, is that they are all, like...
Everybody's against us and all that stuff.
Did it ever occur to you to stop for one second and think, I wonder if everyone's against them?
And the answer to that is yes.
Everyone is against them, and somehow they still go to work to teach your dumbass who doesn't care because you're playing Juco football.
So screw you!
dan friesen
I've met a lot more professors than Jesse has through my life.
And I will give it to him that most of them are pretty grumpy.
But, that said...
jordan holmes
Well, if you know things, you're grumpy.
That's just the truth.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They're grumpy in a fun way.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, I would say that this next clip of Jesse does not pass the smell test.
jesse james
I'm like an entrepreneur of humans, and I have the best BS detector ever.
That's right.
alex jones
He was always against napkin, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, and I can meet someone and, like...
jesse james
No, whether they're full of shit or not.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't know if that's true.
jordan holmes
That is exactly what you say right before you get conned by somebody named Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would say that your presence in the media and a lot of the stuff that you're most notable for in the public eye lead me to believe you may not have a good BS detector.
jordan holmes
My bullshit detector is off the charts, and that's why I trust Trump whenever he says literally everything.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would say maybe not.
So you can tell Alex's voice is a little bit weird.
There's a tone change.
I don't know what it is.
I think he just crashed.
I think he just gets really tired.
In the middle of the interview, too.
It's weird.
He almost has the energy sucked out of him.
I don't know how to describe it, but if you listen to it in its entirety, at some point in the middle of it, it feels different.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
That sounds like when the drugs run out.
dan friesen
So, anyway, this is the clip that I just felt like kind of had that feeling of post-crash.
alex jones
Well, here's what people ask me about again.
Low taxes, prosperity, great medical care, a future.
I mean, you know, Soros went on 16 Minutes.
They've taken it off the web.
We've got a clip of it.
But if you put it up, they hit you with copyright.
And it's Leslie Stahl.
This is like 1999.
She goes, you helped round up more than 10,000 Jews in Romania and Hungary.
Do you apologize?
He goes, no, I do not.
It's what I need to do.
The point is, this guy is the biggest demon you can imagine.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's not true.
Alex is lying about that interview, but you can tell they're just like, they're sort of like, ooh.
There is a deflation that happens.
And thankfully, Alex leaves.
Then Owen Troyer comes in and takes over, and...
Who cares?
He talks to Jack Posobiec.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
And I don't care.
jordan holmes
What an all-star election eve.
dan friesen
However.
jordan holmes
So many people that are not allowed in polite society anymore or don't work at InfoWars anymore or are Roger Stone.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a wild row of folks who are like, wow, this is the faces of InfoWars in 2016.
Yeah, and Owen is co-hosting with someone named Maggie, who's like, I don't even remember who this person is.
I had to look her up.
jordan holmes
Millie Weaver in a wig?
dan friesen
It's not.
I had to look her up.
She used to work for the Young Turks.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
Then started working at Infowars.
Then started working for RT.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And then, according to the Daily Dot, there was an article that was claiming that she was dating Jack Berkman.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
The guy who works with Jacob Wall.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
Yeah, I was like, what?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Let's do it!
That's a fucking career path is what that is.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I don't even remember her.
She was at InfoWars for a cup of coffee.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
She was not there very long.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Owen is on, and towards the end of the night, late into the evening, this happens.
And I think that they probably are glad this happened at a point where it would be very hard for someone to find it or remember that this happened on the day before the election in 2016.
unidentified
Here's what I'll do, folks.
Actually, before you go into that, I've got to tell you, we've got a guy on the line who just said he's got a story about a former Comet Pizza employee who was convicted of pedophilia.
Okay, so we'll take that call, but here's what I'll say.
owen shroyer
I'm going to do this in the brainwashed proper fashion, okay?
unidentified
Well, folks, we have found some really damning evidence of some pictures.
Alleged.
And we have some alleged pictures.
We have some strange artwork from Tony Podesta.
We have some Satanists who invite the Podestas to a cultic dinner.
It appears though we have some symbolism being used here with pizza and cheese and it may be linked to child pedophilia.
It does look as though David Brock has a connection with this pizza place owner and that the Obama Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Owen's doing Pizzagate.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Oh, it's stupid.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Late in the evening, Dan, whenever the Pizzagate comes out.
When the sun goes down, the Pizzagate comes out.
dan friesen
So you might have heard that producer saying, like, we got a guy who's...
jordan holmes
Yeah, and they're like, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
No, no, they take that call.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
owen shroyer
Let's go to, is that Beardzen who knows a former employee of Comet Pizza?
unidentified
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, so I'm from R the Donald.
We've been digging in on this quite a bit, and we found that there's a gentleman by the name of Paul Town that was actually convicted.
He worked there at Comet Pizza for about a year and a half, and he was convicted for pedophilia.
What was his name again?
dan friesen
So, Paul Town is a prank name.
That was being used by posters on 4chan.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
You can find archived threads where people are laughing at Owen as this episode is happening.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Because Paul Town is a reference to Pole, the pole board on 4chan.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
At least that is the sense that I got from looking through their comments.
And they're all thinking it's hilarious.
jordan holmes
Because it's very funny.
dan friesen
Yeah, and clearly that guy said he's from r slash the Donald.
He's from the Donald subreddit.
So this is clearly a guy fucking with him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so it kind of gets sad when Owen responds to this guy giving him this intel like this.
unidentified
How did you come across him?
Like, how did you encounter this person?
So we've been just basically going through different employee registrations and things like that that we could find online.
We cross-referenced that information with the police database, and we found that this guy, Paul Town, is actually involved in a pedophilia charge.
owen shroyer
Well, I just want to give you a round of applause because this is the type of effort it takes from we the people, folks.
unidentified
Okay?
Again, we...
I'm sorry, did the FBI call into that show and give us this intel?
Did the Washington Police Department call in and give us this intel?
No.
dan friesen
Owen is applauding this guy for pranking him.
jordan holmes
Well, I wonder if they had Jesse James there, I'm sure he would have seen right through this prank.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
He's got a really good bullshit.
dan friesen
I think one of the ways that you would see through this prank is like, this guy keeps saying that name.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's almost like he's stressing the name.
jordan holmes
Paul Town.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's almost like he can't stop getting that name out.
jordan holmes
It's almost like he's beginning every sentence with meow?
dan friesen
And if I were, I don't know, someone was working at an actual news outlet, I wouldn't let someone accuse.
jordan holmes
Nah, just random stranger.
dan friesen
I wouldn't let someone do that.
jordan holmes
No backup?
No follow-up?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Clap.
Immediate round of applause.
Standing ovation to any caller who says anything I want him to say.
dan friesen
You don't want to run the risk of somebody slandering a private citizen on your show.
Owen's instincts are so terrible.
They're just the worst.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you why Maggie's not there anymore.
She asked...
Where did you get this information from?
And that is the end of her career.
dan friesen
That is an interesting follow-up, and it is not for InfoWars.
jordan holmes
It is not for InfoWars.
Excuse me, you are gonna need to...
dan friesen
You're fired.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
She was cleaning out her desk when she finished that question.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean, like, look, dude.
The reality is Owen's getting pranked by 4chan.
And that's fine.
I mean, I guess.
You know, it is what it is.
It's InfoWars stuff, you know?
But it's not like he told people to go to Comet Ping Pong.
unidentified
Has the New York Police Department raided this place?
Let me ask you that.
owen shroyer
Has the FBI raided this place?
unidentified
Has anyone investigated Comet Pizza?
Is there anybody planning on investigating Comet Pizza?
Does anybody even know what Comet Pizza is?
So I call on the American people.
Don't do anything illegal.
Don't break any laws.
owen shroyer
Just go there tomorrow and start asking questions.
unidentified
Be like, hey, you know what?
This is a place in my neighborhood.
I like getting pizza here.
But all of a sudden, I'm seeing this weird stuff going on.
I'm not sure if I want to be buying pizza here anymore.
Can you guys stand up for yourselves?
What's your relation to David Brock?
Do you know the Podestas?
Why do we have these emails?
Why is that logo across the street?
What's going on at Comet Pizza?
dan friesen
So yeah, alright.
I mean, Owen told people to go to Comet Pizza.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He told everyone.
jordan holmes
He said don't do anything illegal, Dan.
dan friesen
He did.
And he told them to go get to the bottom of it like the good, competent investigators in his audience can do.
jordan holmes
I am calling on the American people.
dan friesen
To go.
To go and get to the bottom of this.
jordan holmes
To go and harass the guy with 30 questions that he just tossed off in a row.
dan friesen
I am doing something we will later pretend we did not do.
jordan holmes
Didn't do.
Never happened.
dan friesen
But at least he didn't really stress it.
I'll give him that.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
unidentified
This is how you get involved in this fight.
jordan holmes
This is how you change the world.
unidentified
Think about that.
Think about you.
You're sitting at your couch.
It's a Monday night.
It's 1 o 'clock here, Central Time.
You're sitting on your couch.
You're watching InfoWars.
Maybe you're enjoying some popcorn or something, some chocolate.
You're just sitting down.
Well, maybe tomorrow you go to Comet Pizza and you capture video footage that changes the world.
Okay?
That is how you make an impact, folks.
You get off your duff.
You go out.
owen shroyer
You make some action happen.
unidentified
You look for some answers.
dan friesen
Man, that's how you change the world.
You get off your duff and go down to Comet Ping Pong Pizza and change the world.
jordan holmes
I would not want that recorded.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's not something that I would want on record.
dan friesen
This looks real bad in hindsight.
jordan holmes
I would not want the world to know that I said that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be bad.
dan friesen
So here are the things that you find by looking at the day before the election in 2016.
One, I'm still not convinced Alex was convinced Trump was going to win.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
I don't think he wanted Trump to win.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
Well, I think that he was ambivalent at best.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He was keenly aware of the monetization benefits and possibilities that Hillary won.
Which is why he's like, hey, don't freak out.
Don't freak out if the globalists steal the election.
jordan holmes
I'll be fine.
My traffic's going really well.
dan friesen
Yeah, we have a path forward in that case.
And then, yeah, as the night wore on, Owen Schroeder, That's why you don't do these marathons!
jordan holmes
You can't...
These guys...
Have a completely controlled area of time that they will not say the worst thing that they can say.
And it's just, once you let them go on past that, it gets wild.
dan friesen
And man, Owen was early in his career at this point, too.
He hadn't been at Infowars for very long, so like, he had...
Need to get this out.
jordan holmes
This is fucked up.
This is how fucked up InfoWars is.
Maggie fired.
Obviously, she wasn't fired, but she did not stick around because she, obviously, asked the question, hey, where'd you get this information?
dan friesen
Maybe, maybe.
unidentified
Owen, straight up, go to...
jordan holmes
Fucking Comet Ping Pong!
Straight up go there and harass them!
dan friesen
And now he's Alex's second in command.
jordan holmes
And he's number two.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright.
I think we can see how that works.
dan friesen
And I mean, granted, this is also something that, you know, it's kind of difficult to know how much is real and how much is the sense that I get.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But from listening to this, it feels like Alex and Roger are both kind of like, eh?
And then, like, Joe Biggs.
And Owen feel like real believers.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They feel like they're actually convicted on this path.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Leanne, I have no idea what's going on with.
jordan holmes
Very ambivalent about the whole...
dan friesen
Maggie, I have no feeling about at all.
jordan holmes
She asked a question, which I'm proud of her for doing.
dan friesen
David Knight's too boring to figure out what he's up to.
jordan holmes
Why would you?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this is weird, but I think it was much more productive and much more pleasant to look at than to try and get something about the present day.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get that shit out of here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Here's another out-of-context drop, just for fun.
alex jones
Every time I'm out walking the dogs, somebody's like, do you live around here?
And I'm like, hey, you son of a bitch.
No, I don't live around here.
I mean, I don't mean to be like that.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Man, this guy!
And dogs!
dan friesen
He gets angry when he's walking the dog.
jordan holmes
He is getting...
He is a real Dahmer-level relationship with dogs.
dan friesen
He's got to yell at someone when he's out walking the dog so he doesn't punch it.
Unreal.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
dan friesen
So, everyone out there, I hope you're doing well, and for our U.S. wonks, I hope you folks stay safe this year election.
We'll be back at the end of the week.
Maybe we'll have a little bonus on Wednesday.
jordan holmes
We'll see.
dan friesen
Maybe we'll do that, just to have something to put out.
But I really don't believe that we would have something productive and worthwhile to add.
By Wednesday about the topics that people want to hear about.
jordan holmes
The present doesn't exist until Wednesday for me because it's just like, I can't hang.
dan friesen
So we'll be back then.
But until that point, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yes, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Yes, we're on Facebook.
unidentified
We are on Facebook.
jordan holmes
If you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out those who are doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
I just want to hear this again.
alex jones
And get ready to bleep this for our stations, but I'm going to say it because I mean it.
Fuck Michael Bloomberg.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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