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Oct. 28, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#496: October 22-23, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the modern day of The Alex Jones Show to see how things are going. In this installment, Alex admits to punching a dog, plans to sneak into an assisted living center, and complains about Borat.

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alex jones
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dan friesen
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jordan holmes
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alex jones
We are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Well, Jordan, today my bright spot is the fact that I was able to find a bright spot.
Maybe a little meta.
jordan holmes
I was struggling myself.
dan friesen
Shit's bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, maybe we felt there was some inevitability to it, but the Supreme Court confirmation of Barrett, not good.
The Supreme Court decision vis-a-vis voting.
alex jones
Not good.
dan friesen
Unfolding situation in Philadelphia, not good.
Just a lot of dark storm clouds hang overhead.
It's tough.
And, you know, I think sometimes you think about these bright spots and coming into an episode and you kind of think of like, well, I'd like it to be proportional to the dark spots.
jordan holmes
And it's not.
dan friesen
And sometimes you just have to recognize that This is about celebrating little things that maybe are not good enough to make you feel good.
jordan holmes
The reason we started The Bright Spot, celebrating little things in the face of, like, marriage hellscapes.
dan friesen
And it's that theme.
I've not grown any root vegetables in my gardening.
I've had no experience with it at all.
But I just put some cloves of garlic underground, under some dirt, and I was like, this isn't gonna work.
But yesterday, my bag of garlic, if you look in there...
jordan holmes
Oh shit, there's a little leaf!
dan friesen
Yeah, there's two little buds growing out of the soil.
I had really given up on it.
I thought, like, this isn't going to work out.
I did this wrong.
But then little protruding stems coming out of the ground.
So I've got garlic cloves growing.
jordan holmes
That's a metaphor for hope.
That's what that is.
dan friesen
It gave me a little bit of hope.
And, you know, my next crop of peas is coming along well, so I can take solace in some of that.
Lessons have been learned.
Some hope spots coming out of the roots.
That's all I got.
How about you?
jordan holmes
I'm in that same boat.
I'll tell you, my bright spot, not proportional to the darkness.
We've gotten really good at cooking one recipe.
dan friesen
Let me guess.
jordan holmes
What is it?
dan friesen
Something to do with potatoes.
jordan holmes
Well, yes, I make potatoes very well.
dan friesen
You make very good potatoes.
jordan holmes
I make very good potatoes.
dan friesen
Different applications, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Some broiled, some mashed.
jordan holmes
I like a little roast.
I like a mash.
I like a broil.
I like a fry.
You do it all.
You do it all well.
But we've got these pork chops and baby broccolis.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So we can cook everything.
Have you ever successfully cooked everything so that it ended exactly the same time?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Right?
Like, this takes 40 minutes, and this takes 20 minutes, and this takes 10 minutes, so if you do it all at the same time...
dan friesen
I can conceive of it in my head, but no, I don't think I've ever done that.
jordan holmes
We've gotten that down pat, so that this meal that when we started cooking used to take like three hours to prep and all that stuff, get it all done in one hour, eat, it's fantastic, it's great, it's a good accomplishment.
To have.
dan friesen
Yeah, we've worked out the workflow, the system.
unidentified
That's great.
jordan holmes
Team up.
dan friesen
I'm happy for you.
jordan holmes
Back and forth.
It's great.
dan friesen
Hey, that's great.
jordan holmes
We like to yell behind like they do in Chopped.
We yell behind all the time.
Behind!
Hot!
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Coming through, hot!
jordan holmes
Coming through.
Every time.
dan friesen
That's awesome.
Well, Jordan, what's not so awesome is today we are in the present day.
Checking in!
And so we got October 22nd and 23rd, 2020.
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
I started watching Sunday's episode, so this is Thursday and Friday of last week.
I watched a bit of Sunday and I just got really bored.
Monday, Owen Troyer hosted.
Today we're recording this, it's Tuesday.
And Alex was back in studio, but there's just not enough time to get that out for you.
And then as if the world wasn't trying to screw with me enough...
Right before we started recording, Alex, his new episode on Rogan dropped.
jordan holmes
Yeah, literally right before we started recording.
I got a tweet like a half hour ago.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So we're going to have a Friday episode this week.
Motherfuckers.
Congratulations, universe.
You have got me to go back on my two episode a week promise.
We will normally still only have two episodes a week, but this is an emergency when there is a new Rogan episode.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
I swear, he released it just now.
I'm not saying it's because of us.
I'm not saying that they were deliberately thinking of us, but they fucking were, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, no doubt about it.
jordan holmes
It's spite towards us directly.
dan friesen
Rogan's trying to screw with my schedule.
jordan holmes
He's screwing with us!
dan friesen
So, I've not actually had a chance to listen to that, but we'll have that for Friday.
jordan holmes
It will be there.
dan friesen
Very exciting.
jordan holmes
Is it?
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So before we get down to business on this October 22nd and 23rd episode, let's take a moment to say thank you, Jordan, to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that'd be a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Moose!
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Moose!
dan friesen
I don't know if you know this, but I used to work with a guy at Subway named Moose.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
Yep.
He'd just gotten out of prison.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
He called me baby boy.
It was very uncomfortable.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice of him.
dan friesen
Very nice guy, though.
unidentified
Oh, good.
dan friesen
Cool dude.
jordan holmes
Everybody named Moose is usually pretty nice.
unidentified
Yeah, Moose.
jordan holmes
Unless they're in like a Back to the Revenge of the Nerds movie.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Panhandle Antifa Admiral Todd.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Pat.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Kevin M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Kevin.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Eyes on the Inside.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Eyes on the Inside.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, great name, Daniel Hobson.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Daniel.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, oh, another great name.
This is a fun last name situation.
Okay.
I decided that I was going to give it a try.
They told me that I could say their last name, but actually requested that I do it.
jordan holmes
All right, okay, you give it a shot.
dan friesen
I did look up how to pronounce it, so I can actually give you what I thought it was, and then what it actually is.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
This is Daniel Gwadze.
jordan holmes
Gwadze?
dan friesen
Yep, but it's actually Gwadj.
jordan holmes
Oh, DJ?
dan friesen
What?
There's a lot of Zs.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of Zs?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a name with a lot of Zs.
jordan holmes
Okay, cool.
dan friesen
Maybe one vowel?
Depends on, do you think W's are vowels?
jordan holmes
Uh, no.
That's not, it's not even a sometimes W. I think it is.
dan friesen
I think it is.
I've gotten into arguments about this.
unidentified
What is happening?
dan friesen
A-E-I-O-U, sometimes Y and W. Who says sometimes Y and W?
What about the word C-W-M?
jordan holmes
What about the word C-W-M?
dan friesen
The W functions as a vowel in it.
It means a hill.
Anyway, thank you, Daniel.
We appreciate it.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk!
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to some folks who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first, the Bonsai Wolves.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
Next, Mr. Andy, why you jeep?
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Greg L., a.k.a.
Brother Darkness.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a bro.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Bonsai Wolves.
Thank you so much, Mr. Andy, why you jeep?
And thank you so much, Greg L., a.k.a.
Brother Darkness.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you to all of you.
dan friesen
I want to just bring this up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I think that there might be a Mandela effect kind of thing going on.
jordan holmes
With your W, sometimes W stuff?
dan friesen
I've gotten into conversations with people about this, and some people remember that rhyme as being E-I-O-U, sometimes Y, and W, and some people just think it's sometimes Y. I don't know what is reality anymore, and I'm not looking forward to there being an argument among listeners.
jordan holmes
There's no argument.
There's no need for it.
We've got real problems.
dan friesen
W's are sometimes vowels.
jordan holmes
Let's just let it go.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
There's no reason for it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
If U is a vowel, then double that is two vowels, Dan.
Exactly.
That's the only thing that makes sense to me.
unidentified
You know what?
dan friesen
P's are vowels sometimes.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
Yes.
Rules out the window.
jordan holmes
And raven is a verb.
dan friesen
Yes.
So, Jordan, before we get to today's episode, I wanted to take a little moment to open up the mailbag.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Because I got a nice thing here from Miriam.
Listener Miriam sent us this cool needle felted raptor princess.
jordan holmes
Oh, it looks like it's a raptor.
dan friesen
I did not quite know what to call the design of it.
This figure.
But it's very cute.
jordan holmes
It's very cute.
dan friesen
So Miriam sent this to me because I needle-felted this little raptor princess at the beginning of this long, lonely, weird-ass year.
She's been gracing us with her benevolence, but she belongs with you.
I don't know her name, but perhaps she will tell you.
So we've got to figure out a name for this raptor princess.
That's a good question.
Also, Miriam sent an awesome Seaville, Charlottesville sticker.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's great!
dan friesen
And a sticker for the Blue Ridge Abortion Fund.
And I wanted to take this opportunity to just shout that out and shout out other reproductive health organizations.
100%.
unidentified
Made a donation in the raptor princess's name to the Blue Ridge Fund.
dan friesen
Perfect.
unidentified
Fund, but in this trying time, particularly uncertain about where things are going.
dan friesen
Those are organizations that are definitely going to need all of us to step up and support as best we can.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, thank you, Miriam, for the raptor princess.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
It is on the shelf.
That's not going to be its permanent home.
We'll find a better place.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
But for now, I like it watching over me as we record.
dan friesen
Maybe it would be fun to put it on one of the plants.
jordan holmes
To put it on one of the plants?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Raptor princesses don't ride plants down.
dan friesen
Yes, they do.
jordan holmes
They do not ride plants.
dan friesen
They climb quinoa.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, that might be true.
dan friesen
So, we start here on the 22nd episode.
Not the 22nd episode, but October 22nd.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Alex is spending a good amount of time on this episode ranting over music.
He's doing quite a bit of it, but unfortunately none of it is to You Belong to the City.
jordan holmes
None of it.
dan friesen
No.
But he starts off the show with American Band.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we are so honored to be here because we are an American band.
We're American.
We're an American band.
They've been trying to demoralize us, dumb us down, and poison us.
dan friesen
I should say that this is a minute into the rant, but the first minute was not worth it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, just know that this is in the...
We're starting in media res.
unidentified
In media res.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Drag us out of our minds.
We're coming to your town.
We're coming to your country.
We're bringing 1776 worldwide.
We want you to succeed.
We want you to throw the globalist chains off.
We want to see you go to the stars with us.
Because America is an idea.
An idea whose time has come.
It will be America that destroys the New World Order.
It will be America that overturns the world government.
It will be America that is going to be a key part in defeating the Antichrist world system in God's plan.
Sit back and watch.
jordan holmes
God's plan.
alex jones
That's why all the fake theologians tell you America isn't in Revelations.
America isn't mentioned.
All of it's pure lies.
It's all right there for you to see.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
Okay.
That took a turn.
jordan holmes
The seventh seal is broken, so a bald eagle rose from the depths to bring hellfire upon the wicked.
dan friesen
Yeah, that took an interesting twist.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
From, like, just sort of...
Yeah, formulaic, not saying anything, meaningless rant over a dumb rock song into, hey, America is actually secretly in the Bible.
jordan holmes
America's in the Bible.
Yeah, America's in the Bible.
dan friesen
All right, why don't you do an episode about that?
Yeah.
Anyway, Alex gets to talking about how, like, hey, look, masks, right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Bad.
Well, of course.
So, Alex knows this.
He knows that masks are bad.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he knows that everyone else kind of knows that, too.
They just need permission from someone else to be like...
jordan holmes
And that someone is Alex.
dan friesen
Of course it is.
jordan holmes
Okay, interesting.
dan friesen
Now, the way he convinces people and gives them this permission to take off their mask...
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It seems, from this next clip, that mostly it's women, and mostly the technique that he uses might be called sexual harassment.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
I'll be sitting there in a legal meeting.
I'll be sitting there at a store.
I'll be sitting there wherever.
And I'm like, you don't need that mask with me.
I know it's a fraud.
And most of the time, they will pull the mask off.
Particularly young, attractive women.
I'll be like, boy, it's really sad I can't see your face.
And they're like, ooh, boom, that mask comes off.
unidentified
You.
alex jones
I was in a store the other day, and there were two women behind the counter.
They're wearing their masks.
They're getting something for me.
And I just said, you don't need to wear those masks.
Well, they kind of make us do it.
I said, why don't you just take them off?
You know it's a fraud.
You know it's a lie.
I said, well, I heard that.
My brother said that.
I was reading that.
I'm like, okay.
And we just have to do that.
dan friesen
That didn't happen.
Alex is imagining sexually harassing women to get them to take off masks.
jordan holmes
Why is it that for somebody who won't shut up about God, whenever he talks to other human beings in his own stories, he sounds exactly like the devil.
It's all a lie.
Just take that mask off.
You're very beautiful.
dan friesen
Just take the mask off.
jordan holmes
All the things are frauds.
Come with me.
dan friesen
Yeah, he might as well be a serpent in his stories.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Like, what are you doing?
dan friesen
It's strange.
It's strange.
I take some solace in knowing that this didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's nice.
dan friesen
But it's still, like, a very weird...
jordan holmes
I'm still hurting for the fake women in his story.
I'm sure they're still struggling.
dan friesen
My heart goes out to them.
So Alex is on this tip, and we've seen him talk about this a bit in the past, and it's very confusing, but he seems to be putting forth the idea that you can't get sick unless you have vitamin and mineral deficiencies, which is not true.
And I would be...
Fine with it is just bad science and medical advice if it weren't for the fact that he specifically sells supplements of the things that he's saying.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
You know, like vitamin D, zinc.
And in as much as he does sell those things, when part of his narrative is that you can't get sick if you have these things, then the conclusion that you should draw from those two...
The ideas that he presents is that...
jordan holmes
Buying his products will keep you from getting sick.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You can't get sick if you take the supplements that I have.
Therefore, it is a prevention for all sickness, basically.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's bad.
alex jones
I've got hundreds of articles, hundreds of things to cover.
I just want to say again, because the fall's here, and people don't get malnutrition, and you're going to die of the flu, you're going to die of a cold, you're going to die of pneumonia, you're going to die of COVID.
You're going to die of tuberculosis.
You think homeless have high levels of tuberculosis just because they are homeless?
No, they're taking drugs and they're not eating good food.
They're eating gas station food and they're taking drugs and they're sleeping outside and their bodies are run down.
dan friesen
Malnutrition can definitely be an aspect of what makes people experiencing homelessness more susceptible to catching TB, but it's far from what experts believe is the largest factor that makes incidents of the condition much higher in that community.
According to the World Health Organization, quote, the majority of TB cases in urban homeless populations are attributable to ongoing transmission in shelters.
Two of the factors that affect the community more than the housed population is that they generally have less access to healthcare, and they find themselves sheltered in far more densely populated units.
Beyond that, because they have no permanent address and often no reliable way to find or contact them, when someone does test positive for TB, it's incredibly challenging for healthcare workers to trace their contacts and get a jump on containment.
Alex wants this to be a simple issue of the higher rate of TB being the result of simple choices these people make.
They get TB because they eat gas station food and do drugs, so it's kind of their fault.
But that's nonsense.
Through much of my early 20s, I ate gas station food and did drugs.
There are realities to the lives that people experiencing homelessness deal with that are the result of our society choosing not to invest and making sure their lives are healthier or easier.
It's a resource allocation issue that our leaders don't seem to want to fix.
And for people like Alex, it's easier to blame the people who are struggling because to do anything else would require him to give up on his childish opposition to anything that sounds kind of like collectivism.
Yeah.
unidentified
And it's...
dan friesen
Just said.
Just said.
jordan holmes
I find it very interesting that you can have a statement then, like, follow it up with the results of that statement.
You know, like, what?
You think it's just because they're homeless?
It's because they're eating gas station food.
It's because they're in the middle of the street.
It's because they're doing drugs.
It's because of all the things that you do as a result of being homeless.
It's not like homelessness is just a single thing that has no effect on it.
Oh, you just don't have a home.
You can still go to a restaurant, right?
That's no problem.
dan friesen
Sure.
And then, I mean, if you think about it, what would his solution to tuberculosis among the people experiencing homelessness, what would the solution be?
jordan holmes
Get rid of gas stations, Dan.
That's the only way to keep gas station food away from people.
dan friesen
Free zinc?
jordan holmes
Free zinc for all!
dan friesen
Right.
So, Alex has some big news, and as we know, sometimes when he has big news, he can't get on his show and do his show.
jordan holmes
Wow, it's too hard to talk about big news.
dan friesen
Thankfully, he decided to do his show this day.
jordan holmes
Okay, go ahead.
dan friesen
But he also has big news that almost made it so he couldn't do his show.
alex jones
I mean, this is so big that I should not even be on air right now, okay?
I barely got on air.
Because of this.
And I'm sitting there looking at this and I'm just like, you know what real journalists are like?
Real journalists are like FBI agents or what they used to be.
That's all you do.
You go out to a place, you get the proof, you show it to people, you document it.
But I don't have the money to hire retired FBI agents.
That's what a real journalist would do.
Notice, media doesn't do that anymore.
They just see something somebody said and then they...
They just repeat what they heard.
I mean...
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Smash cut to Alex complaining about Keith Overman's YouTube channel.
Smash cut to Alex saying something Bill Maher joked about three years ago as the stated goal of all left-wing people in the country.
Yeah, I would say this is a little rich.
jordan holmes
Stated as someone whose proof is always a lieutenant colonel who saw or heard something that you were telling.
Literally what you just said.
They hear something and then they repeat it.
That's all you do.
dan friesen
Yes.
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's a slap.
unidentified
100%.
dan friesen
That's a slap to the face.
Yeah, it's a little rude.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a little rude.
Now, if that was sort of Alex misrepresenting reality, this next clip is way worse.
alex jones
My biggest frustration is that we have a small media organization that reaches millions of people today, and they can get in front of the president.
And as soon as I hire somebody and train them, they get poached away to go work somewhere else, which is fine, but it happens all the time.
dan friesen
I mean this sincerely, I can't think of a single Infowars employee who's gone on to bigger and better things.
Most of them just disappear into private life, like Leanne McAdoo or Jakari Jackson, but the ones who try to keep going don't typically follow the path of getting poached from Alex.
You had Joe Biggs, who Alex had to fire to save face about Pizzagate, who's now a high-profile member of the Proud Boys, which I would not consider an improvement.
jordan holmes
It's a lateral move, at best.
dan friesen
Possibly, yeah.
jordan holmes
At best.
dan friesen
There are people like Rob Jacobson or Josh Owens who've left and have since come out and talked about how full of shit Alex is and how awful it is to work there.
Millie Weaver got fired after she put out Shadowgate, which kind of insinuated that Roger Stone was involved with the players that were creating internet-based false flags.
Cousin Buckley is gone, but he's not a big media figure.
jordan holmes
No, that's probably...
He didn't get poached by Olbermann or anything like that.
dan friesen
Jerome Corsi doesn't count, because he used to work for Infowars, but he worked for Newsmax before that.
He had a big career, and he's the swift boat and asshole before that.
And also, he hates Alex now and sued him.
I don't know.
There's nobody.
No one who's ever worked at InfoWars has been poached by anyone, because literally everyone in the media understands that InfoWars is a stupid organization, and that anyone who would decide to work there is completely unemployable.
No one's getting poached.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, here's my theory on this.
What he thinks is getting poached is all of the people who work in his audio and all of the quote-unquote researchers and all of that stuff, right?
They're about 18 years old.
They get about eight months of experience, and after fucking up everything that they can fuck up on Alex's show, then they go get a real job.
dan friesen
Yeah, or they, like...
They're behind the scenes.
They've never been publicly seen as an employee.
jordan holmes
No one knows that I work there.
dan friesen
And they're like, oh, I gotta get out before someone knows I work here.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Yeah, that could be.
unidentified
You got it.
dan friesen
I could see that.
I could see behind the scenes people.
But if you take just the in front of camera talent.
jordan holmes
Oh, good God, no.
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Most of the people that work for and for us, Alex has to pretend he doesn't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Dan Badandi, never met him.
jordan holmes
Never heard of him.
Never heard of him.
Listen, I don't get into that kind of stuff.
dan friesen
She's in some deep shit.
jordan holmes
She's in some deep, real stuff that I have known.
I've never even...
I don't ever touch that stuff.
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yeah, Joe Biggs is one simple assault away from having never met Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what's going to happen.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, anyway, this big news.
I would say it's a dud.
alex jones
This is a source known directly by individuals employed here that have worked in, let's just say, different stratas of the security apparatus of this country.
jordan holmes
Darren was a security guard for a week.
alex jones
And all over Austin, they are mailing into nursing homes Multiple ballots, sometimes four apiece, but of course not everybody's getting them.
Women are getting them, and almost all of them are registered what?
Democrats.
jordan holmes
I was going to go with them.
alex jones
When I learned about this last week, I said, let me guess, is it mainly women?
Yeah, how do you know that?
And let me guess, they're Democrats.
Yeah, they, yeah.
Yeah, they are.
dan friesen
Dun, dun, dun!
So Alex apparently learned about this a week ago, didn't talk about it on the show, now he's kicking himself because he's got another source that's told him, and he's like, ah, shit, I should have reported that last week, so then I can report it again now, or something.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has another source on this.
There's one source that I don't believe means anything, and here's a second one that doesn't mean anything.
alex jones
I have a separate individual come here this morning.
And he's showing me the evidence of this, but oh, this person, you know, works in the city of Austin.
They don't want to get in trouble.
And I get that, but you're going to get in more trouble if there's not a country.
So I'm just like, just get me copies of the ballots.
Oh, touching somebody else's ballot, you know, that could be a crime.
So they're mailing out everybody ballots.
They're mailing them into nursing homes.
People don't know what planet they're on, most of them.
And the staff is filling them out and getting paid off to do it, okay?
And, I mean, it's open and shut.
It's going on.
Guarantee I call the FBI.
I know that's going to happen.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably not.
You might get in trouble.
jordan holmes
You know, just give me copies of ballots whenever, you know, and commit a really serious federal crime when people are paying more attention than ever in the history of the world.
dan friesen
Look, I can understand Alex's desire to create fear in his audience and conspiracies about voting, but this one is a bit offensive and honestly kind of ageist.
Alex is trying to create the image that at these assisted living facilities the nefarious staff are stealing old folks ballots and presumably using them to vote for Biden.
Typically, this is not how any of this works.
According to a fact sheet released by Equip for Equality, in many cases, in-person absentee voting events will be organized at assisted living centers.
Quote, When this is done, your vote has to be collected by the election judge in order for it to be counted.
Anyone who's in assisted living can request an absentee ballot.
If you do that, you can return it in person, and then obviously you're handing it over to the voting authorities, or you can do it by mail.
However, if you get assistance in filling out that ballot, which you can from anybody who you decide is a qualified person to help you, quote, the person helping you must sign the envelope stating that they assisted you.
Failure to do so would be a huge problem.
Some states have laws that bar medical staff from assisting people with voting, and that does present a challenge since visitation is limited in nursing homes due to the coronavirus, but this is not an issue that no one is aware of.
What's going on here is that Alex is creating a conspiracy out of complaining about the wrong thing.
The real issue that should be addressed is how even without a virus in play, there are hurdles that affect voting access for people who are in assisted living.
There are laws that require access to voting, but...
These are not perfectly followed, and some folks do end up getting disenfranchised.
There's a definite problem that exists with ProPublica citing Medicare receiving complaints from 55 nursing homes between 2018 and 2019 where residents, quote, said they weren't given the opportunity to vote or were unable to get help casting a ballot.
This is real, and it affects real people who have a right to vote.
Alex wants to be the message to be that it's not fair for the elderly to vote if they vote Democrat, because that must mean that someone's manipulating them into voting that way, and the ultimate conclusion of his logic is that elderly people shouldn't have the right to vote because they're too impressionable or something.
If he wants to make that argument, he's welcome to, but I would love to see how he would try and pull that off.
As it stands, he's ignoring the real issue surrounding voting rights and assisted living while creating a fake version that benefits him politically.
It's the same thing as with the TB nonsense.
The answer is pretty clear when you consult people who understand the issues, but the answer is something that's incompatible with Alex's worldview.
Making progress in terms of TB and the unhoused population requires investment and resource commitment, which he's against.
Ensuring that everyone in assisted living has access to secure voting requires money, resources, probably some federal regulations, and Alex is against all of that.
His world has no solutions for these actual problems, but he knows how to profit from the continuing of them.
So that's what you do.
That's how this operates, and it's Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's very unproductive.
jordan holmes
It sucks that making up terrible plans that would never work and getting people all scared of them will allow you to succeed at very good plans that have been in place to disenfranchise voters.
dan friesen
Well, this is the...
jordan holmes
It's a real bummer.
dan friesen
This is the jangly key that keeps some amount of attention away from the real issues that should be addressed.
Now, I would say that the plans that Alex comes up with for his villains, very stupid.
jordan holmes
Very bad.
dan friesen
The plans that he attributes to the globalists are always, like, very childish and dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, the plans he comes up with for himself, downright very illegal.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And I wish he would do them.
jordan holmes
Just give me the ballots.
alex jones
And so I told these folks, I said, just go out.
I said, I don't care what you gotta do.
Go over there and damn it.
I mean, I'll sneak into the nursing home myself and do the interview.
But see, we've got this passive attitude.
dan friesen
So Alex is going to go sneak into a nursing home.
Master of subtlety?
jordan holmes
Alright, you've seen me sneak into a secret billionaire fuckfest.
Now, my next sequel.
dan friesen
30 years later.
jordan holmes
The nursing home.
dan friesen
I just imagine Alex being put down on wires.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Mission Impossible style.
dan friesen
Getting stuck.
jordan holmes
Ma 'am, we need to whisper, otherwise there will be...
Why is everybody here now?
dan friesen
Alex is like...
The king of stealth.
I picture him basically being someone in an Assassin's Creed game.
unidentified
He is just the champion of snooping around.
jordan holmes
I think I see him and then he's in the bushes.
And he's just gone.
dan friesen
The Watergate burglars wouldn't have gotten caught if one of them was Alex.
jordan holmes
Kick the door open.
I want to commit crimes!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has a prediction here, and that's that Biden's going to be named the winner of the election, and then stock market crash.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And they're just going to say he won, and they're going to go with the secession movement and have the media declare Biden the winner.
They'll say, well, it's not clear the 9-0.
It'll take a week or two.
And then they're going to say Biden wins.
And then when Trump contests it, they're going to say he's a liar.
And this is a disaster by design.
And during that, they're going to plunge the stock market saying, uncertainty about America.
Trump won't step down.
Stock market down 5,000 points.
7,000 points.
10,000 points.
jordan holmes
12,000 points.
alex jones
14,000 points.
20,000 points.
And it's going to be everybody lined up saying, get rid of Trump.
And Biden will turn the stock market back on.
And they're going to betray us during that period, and then they're going to kill the dollar, and then the average leftist won't remember they did this a month later.
They have no memory.
dan friesen
Honestly, Alex is just describing a funhouse mirror version of what could happen if Biden wins.
Alex is creating false intentions and causation for things that could...
Happen.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
For instance, no matter what, there's a very good chance that we will not know on election day who's won.
It's just the reality of how things work when there's such high levels of advance and absentee voting which can't be counted until Election Day in many states, including Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, which combine to represent 38 electoral votes.
Some states logistically could have difficulty having an accurate count by Tuesday evening, probably many of them, and that isn't suspicious.
Alex has made it suspicious, and by making the delay part of the globalists' plan, which makes no sense.
The next layer is the stock market.
It's very possible that the market could take a dip, regardless of who's in the lead during the period between the election and the certification of the results.
That stretch could be rocky because of the uncertainty it represents with investors not knowing which way to play things.
From some of the articles I've read, it feels like investors are really aware of this dynamic and many have hedged appropriately, so it's possible that the instability won't be nearly as severe as it could be, but there might be a dip.
This is a natural market reaction, but Alex has preemptively characterized this as the globalists tanking the stock market and holding it hostage, only to be let free if Biden is installed as president.
Of course, if there is a period of uncertainty and then Biden is declared the winner, that will have the stabilizing effect on the market, which Alex is trying to get his audience to experience as the globalists letting the market come back because they got their way.
The elements of this narrative that Alex is building are possible things, sensationalized quite a bit, 14,000.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And given a completely fictional context.
This is one of the big ways that Alex cheats.
There's a very good chance that there could be market instability at the end of this year, and it's likely that this instability could be worse the longer the election is undecided.
However, as Jessica Rabe, the co-founder of DataTrek Research, told CNBC, quote, The experience of this short-term volatility can be exploited by people like Alex if they're able to contextualize it ahead of time and then use being right about the prediction of that volatility to pretend to be right about the context they ascribe to it.
Put simply, Alex could be fairly accurate in his prediction that there might be market drops, although obviously not as big as he's saying, in the period when the election is undecided.
And then when the winner is named, things will settle down.
He could be completely right about that, and it would not prove at all that he was right about the globalists holding the stock market hostage in order to force Trump out and get Biden in.
That's just complete nonsense that he's imagining that he's going to give himself the appearance of being right about should the more basic...
Prediction turn out to be correct.
jordan holmes
I predict the sun is going to go up tomorrow.
Alright, that's a good prediction.
And it's because you masturbate.
No!
Ooh, that's not the way it works.
dan friesen
Very simple, but essentially the same game.
And if you kind of understand that trick a little bit, and you listen to his show critically, you'll see it come up quite a bit.
There is the being correct about something that's trivial.
Maybe even likely.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, being correct about a prediction that has been written about exhaustively for the past year and a half.
dan friesen
Yeah, to the point where it's a notable phenomenon, the hedging and the protection that investors are looking into for the end of this year.
Yeah, it's...
jordan holmes
No, in investing, it's like...
People say stuff like, don't let politics influence your investment choices.
And now it's like, politics!
What are you doing?
Everybody's going to die!
dan friesen
I think there's probably less of that among big investors.
jordan holmes
No, I went to the New York Stock Exchange and they were all screaming like silly idiots.
dan friesen
Look, my friend, there's one thing that you will find at the New York Stock Exchange that you won't find on Alex's face.
And that's a mask.
Alex ain't going to wear that mask.
alex jones
Oh, Alex, just wear the mask.
It'll be over soon.
It'll never be over.
Bill Gates now says 10 years.
Because the mask is a symbol of idiocy.
Big studies have come out.
They're trying to suppress that masks actually spread disease.
It's all crap, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
Bill Gates said that it may take a decade to get back to the point we'd reached in terms of economic development in the developing world.
He wasn't saying that Alex would have to wear a mask for 10 years or even that the coronavirus pandemic will last close to that long, just that there are setbacks that have happened as the world responds to a crisis and that realistically could take a long time to get back to where we were.
Alex is just completely lying about what Bill Gates said.
As for this idea that there were studies showing masks spread disease...
I found that interesting.
jordan holmes
I would be interested in that.
dan friesen
In a very preliminary search, you can find a meta-analysis conducted back in May that found, quote, protective effects of wearing masks were significant in cluster-randomized trials and observational studies.
You can find a ton of studies that set out to see if there's an effectiveness difference between varying types of masks.
So if you want to make an argument that a cloth mask isn't as good as, like, a medical mask, maybe you could do that.
But I struggled to find the sort of thing that Alex seems to be talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be difficult.
dan friesen
As I always do as a last resort, I tried to find the article on Alex's own website.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
And though that webpage is damn near unnavigatable, I was able to find what I think he's talking about.
There was a study that was released back on September 11th that's getting some traction in the right-wing media right now, and there was a recent story on Breitbart that Alex has reposted on his website.
The headline is, quote, CDC study 85% of coronavirus patients reported wearing masks always or often.
Even if this isn't a misinterpretation of a study, it still isn't a bombshell.
As has been made clear over and over again, wearing a mask is less about protecting yourself and more about protecting those around you in the case that you are sick and possibly unaware.
The article on InfoWars is arguing against a straw man.
They're claiming that the study shows that masks are ineffective in stopping the wearer from getting sick, which is not the claim that anyone is making.
I don't think most people would be as offended by anti-mask people if wearing a mask was strictly about protecting oneself.
It's the part about how wearing a mask is to protect those around you that makes the whole...
Anyway, this study does show that you can catch the coronavirus, even if you wear a mask.
But that isn't a gotcha, so I decided to look closer at the study to see what else it said.
The finding of this study was that they were largely overlooked because what they said was just what you'd expect.
For instance, they found that, quote, close contact with one or more persons with known COVID-19 was reported by 42% of case patients compared with 14% of control participants.
That's not shocking at all.
jordan holmes
No, that would make sense.
dan friesen
They also found that case patients were more likely than control participants to have dined at a restaurant or gone to a bar in the previous two weeks.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, that would make sense.
dan friesen
These were the two main findings in their data, but the study itself makes clear that there are large limitations to the data they were able to gather, and that it might not be a perfectly representative sample of the larger population for a number of reasons.
This study in no way proves that wearing masks spreads disease, and if you're going to take anything from it, it should Those things seem like productive ways to interpret this information.
Less so.
Although, I do think that there is something to be said for wearing masks being possibly harmful if you don't wash them.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But that's the same as clothes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's not anything.
jordan holmes
That's a bad idea.
dan friesen
That's not unique.
jordan holmes
No.
Okay, how about this?
How about this?
Here's my pitch for you, all right?
We get a licensing system for being allowed to say, this is what a study says.
You know, like, okay, so driver's license.
At 16, you also have to take a critical thinking skills test.
And you get licensed, but you have to wait until you're like 30. And you get licensed, and then you can talk about studies as if you know what they're talking about.
dan friesen
Ideally, we should just incorporate that into education.
jordan holmes
You would think, but I want to go with a license.
I want another piece of government ID.
dan friesen
I feel like conservatives are going to call this red tape.
jordan holmes
That might be.
dan friesen
Meaningless bureaucracy.
jordan holmes
That's because they don't understand critical thinking skills.
dan friesen
Let's do a study about it.
So anyway, hey man, look, masks.
Doctors wear masks.
jordan holmes
Yes.
That's because it's a symbol of idiocy and we all know that doctors are stupid.
dan friesen
When they're doing surgeries, it's not about protecting patients from them or them from the patients.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
There's another reason.
alex jones
Doctors wear masks because they don't want to smell your blood and the pus coming out of your teeth when they're drilling them.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
dan friesen
It's just about smells.
jordan holmes
It's about smelling your blood.
dan friesen
Yep.
Don't want to smell that blood.
jordan holmes
What's the point of having history?
What's the point of having science?
If Alex can say stuff like, doctors wear masks because they don't want to smell your blood.
dan friesen
Your blood stinks.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
Why even have this?
dan friesen
Who cares?
Anyway, Borat is back.
I have not yet seen Borat 2. I probably will watch it eventually.
Anyway, Alex hates Borat.
He hates Sacha Baron Cohen.
He believes that he works with the ADL to control the world.
He's the closest thing to Hitler there is.
And Alex is particularly mad because Rudy Giuliani...
Got caught in a not-great situation.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The whole perving on an underage girl thing to the point where Sacha Baron Cohen ran back in because he was like, I don't want to actually see a crime here.
dan friesen
Well, that's one way to look at it.
jordan holmes
Oh, is that one way to look at it again?
dan friesen
I haven't watched the whole movie, but I have seen that clip.
I've seen the clip that was released, and...
The argument that Alex is going to try to make...
jordan holmes
I bet he can sell me on it.
Nope.
dan friesen
He's saying that they told Rudy it was a break in the filming and that they needed to take the mic out, so when he was going into his pants, he was trying to take off his mic.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
Alex is just choosing to ignore the part where the fake 15-year-old girl invites Rudy into the bedroom for a drink, and he comes in, and he's touching her.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
His Twitter was hacked!
That's what happened, Dan!
It was a Twitter hack!
dan friesen
Look, I can't say what raw footage might show.
unidentified
But it doesn't look good.
jordan holmes
It doesn't look good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It looks very crimey.
dan friesen
So instead of dealing with this head-on, Alex decides to talk about the time that when Sacha Baron Cohen was making Bruno, he got Ron Paul into a...
Into a hotel room and then took off his pants.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And then his specialty is saying you're being interviewed in a hotel and to say, oh, the lights are broken.
This is what happened to Giuliani we now know.
It was obvious that's what he did.
Please come in here and wait.
There's no chairs.
There's a bed.
You sit on the bed.
And then he comes in, blocks the door, and pulls his pants down on you.
I mean...
I wish he'd pull that with me because I'd break his jaw if he was lucky.
And Ron Paul almost punched him in the face.
I've talked to him about it off air.
You see him.
The guy's not a wimp.
And the point is that that's the type of crap that's going on here.
Imagine you're in a hotel room and a dude drops his drawers wearing a thong and then chases him out the door.
And Ron Paul's like, that guy's a fag!
They're like, oh, he's homophobic!
I mean, give me a break.
dan friesen
So, to be clear, I went back and I re-watched that clip from Bruno because I didn't remember...
jordan holmes
I don't remember that.
dan friesen
Those are not the words that Ron Paul uses.
That is Alex's words.
jordan holmes
Okay, so Alex escalated from there.
dan friesen
Yes, from Ron Paul's reaction to Bruno taking off his pants.
jordan holmes
You know, they just can't wait to show you how racist and homophobic and everything they are.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's interesting.
jordan holmes
It just can't wait.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, yeah, sure.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Alex has a fake version here of what happened with Rudy, and this is just sad.
alex jones
They say, oh, the interview's over.
He goes, okay.
He leans back.
He goes to take the mic.
You put it in your back pocket or your side.
You string it under the shirt, and you pin it right here.
So you've got to pull your stuff out to get it.
So they're watching in the room right next door.
And the minute Giuliani goes to do that, they're like, oh, I can take it out?
Okay, sure.
They leave.
He leans back to take it out.
They run into framing.
This was a criminal frame-up.
dan friesen
It was a criminal frame-up.
jordan holmes
Oh, was it?
Oh, was it, Alex?
Alex.
dan friesen
Alex.
All right.
jordan holmes
Alex, Rudy Giuliani is a fucking terrifying creep.
We all knew that.
I didn't need, I didn't need Sacha Baron Cohen to, like, it's fucked up that I see it.
But, yeah, like, I needed, like, what did you think was going to happen?
dan friesen
I would argue that it's questionable to agree to an interview with a 15-year-old in a hotel room.
Why?
Just that decision alone is iffy.
Especially if you're Rudy Giuliani.
That choice is something that I think is dicey.
And then, to behave in the way that is shown, even before putting hand in pant, to behave in the way that it appeared that he was behaving is another level of...
jordan holmes
That's just so fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah, but hey man, it was just a mic.
Sounds good.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That is pathetic.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That's really sad.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So what's not sad, though, is Alex's initiative.
Alex is a guy who gets shit done.
And you know that because he'll have- He doesn't even get his show done!
True.
However, Infowars.com blocked on social media.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So he creates band.video.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Band.video.
Blocked on social media.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
So now he has 2020 Election Center.
jordan holmes
No, he's banned.
What does he not understand?
It's not like the name that's banned.
dan friesen
It's him.
So 2020 Election Center, I think, is getting blocked more.
So now he has censoredbyjack.com.
He has a lot of URLs that are just to try and dodge.
jordan holmes
I wish he would apply that same creativity and ingenuity towards doing his job.
dan friesen
He has initiative.
And much like he creates a ton of URLs to try and keep traffic coming into his website, he also is creating new email addresses where people can send him information about how maybe they're breaking into or sneaking into nursing homes and finding ballots.
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
We're like a police substation that has 10 cops in it, and there's like 100 calls an hour coming in.
I mean, I can't handle it.
But you know what?
Somebody's got to do it.
We're creating a new email.
We're going to try to check every hour.
Vote at Infowars.com.
And all over the country, just go see your parents in the nursing home.
Because you know what's happening in Texas, and I've seen reports of multiple ballots in Michigan, too.
You know it's happening everywhere.
And just go check on your parents, or check on your sister, or your brother, or your...
You know what?
If you've got a dog, say it's a...
Whatever they call it, where you go visit people with the animal to make them feel good.
Companion animal?
I mean, I've gone and had country music played at nursing homes for people.
My grandmother was in there and brought the dog in there to see her and made her real happy.
So, I mean, I've done that.
Go visit the nursing home with your dog.
Go visit her and see if there's a stack of ballots sitting right there.
Then report it.
dan friesen
To me.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
It's one thing to, like, if you have business to be at the center, like if you have a family member there, it's another thing to go on an investigative mission with your dog as cover.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a weird...
Also, what are we doing?
What are we doing?
Just call.
Just call and ask.
dan friesen
It would be unfortunate if Alex, like, I mean, look, I don't encourage anybody to send bad tips to that email address.
jordan holmes
Totally not.
dan friesen
Because we wouldn't need to.
His audience would send him tons of dumb shit.
jordan holmes
Honestly, you guys would think that you are coming up with something that's so dumb, there's no way an info warrior would actually do it, and you are wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You are wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can't prank a prank.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And no matter what any of our listeners could come up with to send in to fuck with him, it won't be any sillier.
No.
jordan holmes
You can't out-surreal unreality.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Unreality is going to out-surreal you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So a while back, Alex was feeling real bad.
Money was tight.
And he thought, like, hey man, shit's going down.
It's all over.
I'm going to do my last episode, but I'm not going to release it.
Remember that?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I totally remember that.
dan friesen
I'm going to come in and do my last episode, and then it'll be there, and then when I go off air, whenever they come and get me, I'll have my last episode.
jordan holmes
I was really hoping, we speculated that that would be the way he ends his show forever, saying that there was a secret last episode on his actual last episode.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That would have been great.
dan friesen
Well, Alex has decided he's going to do this again.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
alex jones
I thought about last week, Jeff, doing a whole four-hour show on, this could be our last show.
And what would I say on my last show?
You know what?
Next Tuesday, I'm going to do a show called My Last Show Ever, question mark.
dan friesen
That's election day.
jordan holmes
Question mark?
dan friesen
Also, next Tuesday's election day.
jordan holmes
Next Tuesday, on some whatever day is happening.
dan friesen
Some random day.
jordan holmes
Some random ass day, I'm going to do my last show ever, question mark.
What a fucking asshole.
dan friesen
I hope he doesn't.
jordan holmes
I just want to throw tomatoes at him.
dan friesen
I just hope he doesn't.
I would find that.
jordan holmes
I want that computer chip in a homeless man.
dan friesen
I would find that to be maybe kind of a fun kind of trolling on his part on election day to do his fake last show ever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be fun.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to calls.
He had said that he was going to go to calls like the whole show and it was going to be all wall-to-wall calls.
Does not get to calls for quite a while.
And this caller wants to pray.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
You're up there in Joe Biden territory.
unidentified
Unfortunately.
And I'm going to piggyback off of the second to last caller you had.
And I'm going to pray.
I hope that's all right with you.
alex jones
Go ahead, brother.
jordan holmes
It's not with me.
unidentified
Lord thy God, creator and master of the universe, in your son's name, Yeshua, Emmanuel, Jesus Christ, and Messiah, we pray.
Father, we pray that your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Oh boy, you wrote this down.
jordan holmes
You can't read a prayer, buddy.
dan friesen
So we got more callers calling in and praying for vengeance and punishment for their earthly enemies.
jordan holmes
You know, it reminds me of the Psalms, surprisingly enough.
It is really good whenever somebody in the year 2020 writes down a psalm to read to Alex fucking Jones on the air.
dan friesen
Yeah, I didn't hear as much praying on the 2016 episode.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Fewer callers calling in and just praying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It is kind of an interesting thing, considering you would expect them to hate Hillary Clinton so much more.
dan friesen
There might have been some preying on it.
I'm sure there was preying.
We haven't listened to enough episodes to say fully, but the vibe is...
jordan holmes
Way different.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Trump really fucked everybody's head up.
The right-wing media has really done a great job of just destroying the brains of billions of people.
dan friesen
Now, here's how you can tell that Alex still has some grasp on...
Some of this is fake.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because this caller starts breaking into prophecy, and Alex immediately gets freaked out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I was like, I gotta go.
unidentified
right.
God has given me a task in which I have not been obedient about, so this would be a good starting point.
More than a year ago, he gave me a vision in which told me that all who smoke hemp and seed shall surely die.
Ezekiel 3.18 says, when I say to a wicked person, you will surely die, and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life.
That wicked person will die in their sin.
alex jones
Oh, brother, here's the deal.
Callers are going to hang up.
I love you to death, but I got to get each caller on to the next person because of the breaks.
dan friesen
I got to go, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, dude.
I had a vision.
You had to go.
Goodbye.
dan friesen
I listened to that a number of times.
I can't quite make out what he's saying, but I think he's saying...
jordan holmes
If you smoke weed, you're going to die.
dan friesen
I think that's what he was saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he said if you smoke hemp and seed.
jordan holmes
That's what it sounded like.
dan friesen
That is what I gathered, but I can't be certain.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
But whatever it is, it's like, yeah, hey, we're fine with some religious extremism.
We're cool with praying on air.
jordan holmes
Cole.
dan friesen
You're getting weird with these prophecies.
I can't have that.
jordan holmes
We don't do future here.
If it's not the globalists doing it, I don't deal with it.
dan friesen
If I can't be in control of it, and whatever the prophecy is, I'm not interested.
And quite frankly...
I'm too into my libertarian weed is cool thing.
I have way too many of those people.
It would really bum out a large section of my audience if I went back on drugs.
jordan holmes
I'm not just going to go with you on if you smoke weed, you die.
You know?
Not even...
Even if you want to say that you're going to hell, which is...
dan friesen
God's supposed to love the herb.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I don't understand it.
Also, dude, come over to my side.
It's way more fun over here.
You're spouting prophecies and praying with Alex Jones.
I'm smoking weed, man!
Come hang out with me!
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on, and we're not going to listen to anything of his, because who cares?
alex jones
James O 'Keefe, you've got the floor.
Project Veritas, tell us what's happening, what you've broken, what people should share and be informed about, and then what's coming next.
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, great to be with you.
I just, I don't care.
James O 'Keefe is the boy who cried wolf, quite frankly.
I don't care about what he has to say.
But I do think it's interesting that Alex is having James O 'Keefe on the same episode where he was complaining about Borat.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Can't handle those kind of gotcha pranks, you know?
unidentified
James O 'Keefe tried to lure a reporter to a boat full of lube and sex toys.
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
That's investigative journalism.
You know what real journalists do?
They're like FBI agents, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Go fuck yourself.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Anyway, we have one last clip here from the 22nd, and Alex is talking to a caller.
And mic down for this, because this...
I fell out of my chair, metaphorically, when I heard this.
alex jones
Have you researched anything about the grand solar minimum?
unidentified
We're entering potential new ice age.
How does that line up?
alex jones
Absolutely.
They know we're going into an ice age.
And so why are they spraying aluminum dioxide, blocking solar radiation?
They're trying to trigger it early.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
So...
That aligning with the fourth turning in 2020, perfectly planned.
alex jones
Yeah, exactly.
They're trying to pull off a mass calling.
They're trying to cut our food supply off.
Before we go interstellar.
unidentified
Have a good day.
alex jones
Yeah, absolutely.
Genius caller.
I love these callers.
Incredible.
dan friesen
Genius.
Is that plan C?
jordan holmes
What the fuck just happened?
dan friesen
If you're listening to this, you'd have to kind of think that Alex believes that the globalists...
They really like orderly things.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So they want to get everyone into camps and forced vaccines and then kill everybody off slowly.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
That way.
But also because of Alex's machinations, he's forced to hand, they're just going to release a super bioweapon to kill off everybody.
jordan holmes
Immediately.
dan friesen
Yes.
But also they're trying to start a new ice age early to kill people.
jordan holmes
Well, of course.
dan friesen
What?
Why?
They already have the super bioweapon.
Why would they want to create a super Ice Age?
They've got to then live through the Ice Age.
jordan holmes
You just don't understand.
dan friesen
Ice Ages suck.
jordan holmes
You just don't get it, Dan.
There's a lot of different plans up in the air at any given point in time.
There are that many plans in order to throw Alex off the scent.
Now, obviously it won't work because Alex was appointed by God himself to foil all plans.
dan friesen
Plans A through Z. Sometimes W. What if the plan to create a new Ice Age makes it so the environment is inhospitable to the super bioweapon that they've created?
jordan holmes
Ah, well, then they cancel each other out, and that's when you go to Plan P, my friend.
dan friesen
What's Plan P?
And is that a vowel?
jordan holmes
It is now!
dan friesen
I just get bored.
jordan holmes
I just get bored of these.
dan friesen
Okay, alright.
Everything that could be an apocalyptic plan.
Is something the globalists are doing.
None of these things are compatible or seem to complement each other, but they're all their plans.
The other thing that I come away with, too, is this weird sense of, like, I hate electoral Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the feeling that I have had a really difficult time putting my finger on for a while.
Alex shouldn't care about electoral politics.
It's really unbecoming for him.
If he believes that there's a secret cabal of all this stuff and these globalists are all in control of so many blah blah blah, the right and the left, it's all an illusion.
He shouldn't care at all about votes.
The election shouldn't matter.
It should be like the Super Bowl to him or whatever.
It should just be like, this is just a bunch of bullshit.
The over-committing is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
I mean, like, I just don't know how else to put it.
It's like, it's an invalidation of his character.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's just a hack.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have anything.
He used to have something to bring.
That's why we got where we are.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And now he's just a hack like everybody else.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And you could, like, that's why the Ron Paul stuff works so well.
It's like, yes, this is never going to go anywhere.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can sort of...
Hang your hat on the what-ifs.
Like, it's just great.
It's perfect for a guy like him.
And this just stinks.
It stinks.
Electoral Alex, bummer.
jordan holmes
Bummer town.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there was a debate on Thursday night and on Friday.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex got into studio and here's how he interpreted the debate.
alex jones
With President Trump's devastation, devastation of Joe Biden, he has secured An even bigger landslide victory that I'm now just going to call it 10 days out.
Trump is going to win bigger than he won in 2016 in the Electoral College.
He might even win the popular vote, though that's the states where they've got so much election fraud going on.
But just as sure as the sun came up this morning and will set this evening, you can bet your bottom Benjamin Franklin or your bottom George Washington Or your bottom Thomas Jefferson.
You can bet your bottom Greenback that they're going to contest it and have the states start breaking up and just have the biggest fiasco you've ever seen.
They already said the last election was illegitimate.
dan friesen
Oh boy, so Joe Biden got destroyed in the debate, so now Trump is going to win bigger and a greater landslide.
But also states are going to secede.
jordan holmes
I can't think of anything I care about less right now than a debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine giving a shit about that?
dan friesen
I don't think it's an environment where what you want in a debate can happen.
The point of a debate would be to understand policy positions, understand differences between perspectives on issues that we're all facing.
And I don't think between those two, primarily because of the involvement of one of them, I don't think that's possible.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So, fuck it.
jordan holmes
Who gives a shit?
dan friesen
And again, it goes back to what we were talking about a little while back, which is it's very hard to imagine that anybody is like, I just don't know.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
60 million votes have already been cast.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's too many for anyone to genuinely consider that it matters.
The people who are like, I better watch this debate to figure out who I like.
What the fuck are you talking about?
dan friesen
I understand why you still do it.
jordan holmes
Sure, I guess.
But it's the same reason that we're doing so much shit right now that makes zero sense, which is just like...
We're all pretending that the system is still working.
dan friesen
Well, I mean...
jordan holmes
It's all imaginary.
dan friesen
Sure.
Anyway, Biden lost.
jordan holmes
Sure he did.
dan friesen
He got trounced.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
You can have it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And actually, I honestly think that it makes perfect sense that Alex would think that because, like, Trump was in the debate just, like, talking Infowars, man.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, he was talking a lot of the stuff that's, like, pointless and it's not based in reality, but it works for these right-wing media cycles.
Of course.
They were seeing exactly the Trump that they need there on that debate stage.
And I think that you could easily see that as like, yes, this is good.
But it's probably not good electorally.
I think most people, first of all, have already made up their mind.
And someone who's not already into Trump would look at that debate, any of these debates, And just see, like, ugh.
jordan holmes
That guy's insane.
dan friesen
Or just, ugh.
Like, I don't like what's going on.
jordan holmes
I didn't watch a second of it.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex talks about China, their relationship with...
This is very confusing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He tries to make a metaphor where China is like a biker who's in an abusive relationship with your mother.
jordan holmes
That's a normal situation that happens to...
dan friesen
Please try and trace this metaphor.
jordan holmes
I'll work on it.
dan friesen
It's pain.
jordan holmes
I'll write it down.
alex jones
China is the big thousand pound bully that is...
Let me give this analogy that's having sex with your mom, I guess.
Let's say you're five years old and there's this big mean motorcycle gang dude that weighs 400 pounds that beats your mom and beats you and there's nothing you can really do.
She's scared.
I mean, the Democratic Party is your mom, and the Chi-Coms are like the big thug.
And you've got the globalists that put the big thug in power, but that's really where this country is.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And your mom has Stockholm Syndrome.
She's got cigarettes put out on her.
She's not eating enough.
Her ribs are showing.
He broke her arm last year, knocked some of her teeth out last month.
And she's just scared of him and she defends him.
Whatever his name is.
Oh, Bobby's good.
Jack's nice.
And, you know, if you don't do something about him, he's going to end up killing your mama.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
You can bail on a metaphor.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If it's not going well, just be like, you know what?
That one got away from me.
You can say that one got away from me.
The whole world goes, that happens to me too.
dan friesen
We just move on.
Yeah, I understand you're doing live radio.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That one got away from me.
We've all had one get away from us.
That's a thing.
dan friesen
All right, so China is an abusive boyfriend.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
The Democratic Party is your mother.
jordan holmes
All right, you've already lost the thread.
dan friesen
Why is the Democratic Party my mom?
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
Wait.
jordan holmes
Who in this scenario?
Am I the Democrat?
dan friesen
Mom?
Where are the Republicans?
jordan holmes
They're the kids?
dan friesen
The Democratic Party doesn't have any power right now.
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
I mean, that's a horrifying sort of way to paint a picture of something, but I don't understand the point.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what...
dan friesen
I mean, obviously the point is Democrats in China bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, wouldn't...
This be making the Democrats incredibly sympathetic?
jordan holmes
I don't...
I think he...
No, not for him, because he believes that if you're getting hit by somebody, then that's your fault, I guess?
dan friesen
The Democrats are satanic.
They kill kids.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but China's the bigger killer of kids.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It doesn't make any sense.
jordan holmes
None of it makes sense.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Don't do metaphors.
dan friesen
So Alex tries to get into, in his next clip, he tries to get into sort of minimizing climate change and carbon emissions.
And I think he trips over his own foot.
alex jones
But what they do know is one big volcano puts out more than all the humans do in 10 years.
That's on record.
Mount St. Helens was more than a decade of human carbon in the atmosphere.
It happened in a couple minutes.
Krakatoa, Pompeii.
Look it up for yourself.
It's incredible.
dan friesen
I'm not sure it's a winning strategy to say that carbon emissions aren't a big deal and your evidence is that every ten years we do as much damage as events that are pointed to as historical disasters.
Pompeii is a word that when you say it, people don't think about how that's the name of the city, and the volcano is actually Mount Vesuvius.
The word Pompeii is shorthand for that disaster, because it was so bad.
jordan holmes
It was shorthand for seeing people exploded so fast there are fucking ghosts on the walls.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That was in 79 AD.
Krakatoa erupted in 1883, and these are still words that just mean volcano disaster because the effects of those events were so serious and left such an indelible impression on people's psyche.
Even if what Alex was saying were true, it would still be a strong argument for taking human carbon emissions and climate change seriously.
Does he think it's a convincing argument to say that we're pointlessly creating a Krakatoa?
That seems fucking stupid.
You know what else created more CO2 emissions than we do?
That impact that killed off the dinosaurs.
jordan holmes
Oh, that one did!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A lot of stuff went up into the atmosphere and it kind of made it...
Everybody's always worried about volcanoes and meteors or whatever.
dan friesen
Now, to the larger point, Alex is just making up numbers.
These incredibly violent eruptions aren't happening all the time, whereas our actions are.
We may not have a Krakatoa-type volcano going off every year, but there are volcanoes, and according to Climate.gov, quote, Human activities emit 60 or more times the amount of carbon dioxide released by volcanoes each year.
Large violent eruptions may match the rate of human emissions for a few hours that they last, but they're too rare and fleeting to rival humanity's annual emissions.
In 2013, U.S. Geologic Survey scientist Terry Gerlach published a paper that estimated comparisons between the emissions caused by volcanoes and by humans.
His previous paper from 2011 had put the figure at humans releasing approximately 90 times as much as volcanoes, but this time the number was lower, partially because, quote, more data on carbon dioxide emissions from subsurface magma had become available in the years since.
Also, even that 90 times figure is probably quite conservative.
In his paper, Gerlach looked at particularly large events, like the eruption of Mount St. Helens, which he found, quote, released carbon dioxide on a scale similar to human output for about nine hours.
What Alex is saying is absolutely not true.
And even if it were true, it would be a really stupid argument.
He's just making up numbers that aren't real.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
You know those things that echo throughout human history?
Yeah, we do one of those every ten years in the sky.
You know, that's great, right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, what?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
But why?
No, it echoes throughout human history.
Things that echo throughout human history have to be good, right, Dan?
dan friesen
These things are scars on human history.
jordan holmes
Scars on what?
dan friesen
Like, you think about it, and you, like, I mean, there's the effects, like, changing sunsets, and, like, those kinds of things that are, like, real visible and physical.
But some of them, like, they affect oral tradition throughout history that has gone down.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, the myth of the flood is everywhere for a reason.
You know, like, it doesn't matter where, but you got hit by that flood, buddy.
dan friesen
You can't prove that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't.
dan friesen
It was a literal flood.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex says something that I need a citation on, and he does not provide one.
alex jones
The number is between 5,000 and 10,000 people.
The FBI tried to bribe posing as Russians.
They could not get one conservative nationalist or patriot.
One person to take the money.
Now, you think about that long, you think about that hard.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
It makes me really proud of patriots.
A lot of folks got, you know, grandmas with cancer, the wife's got cancer, you know, you got big debts or whatever.
jordan holmes
And you're taking their money.
alex jones
Oh, it's not going to hurt a little if I take a little money from the Russians to get a little info.
But no, they could not get one person.
What a loyal, good group of people.
Salt of the earth.
And we're living right next to devil-worshipping pedophile filth.
dan friesen
You sound like a fucking child.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's gross.
dan friesen
This is so childish.
jordan holmes
That's stupid.
unidentified
Oh, the FBI took 10,000 patriots and tried to give them Russian money and none of them took it.
dan friesen
You sound like a fucking...
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
You sound like a middle schooler telling a story about your dad being a hero.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, totally, totally.
dan friesen
This is such nonsense.
jordan holmes
No, this is bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Alex watched the debate.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he wept.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Why?
alex jones
I did part of the debate here live.
I went home to watch it with my family.
And...
I started crying.
And when I was driving into work today, I cut a little ad.
I was about to cut an ad about standing up for President Trump and admiring President Trump and not being ashamed of that.
And just what admiration really is.
Because it's not envy.
It's not jealousy.
It's the opposite.
It's love.
And it's something being an example and just appreciating it.
dan friesen
This is so dumb.
jordan holmes
I'm...
I'm struggling for words.
I just want to throw.
dan friesen
I watched that debate and I cried because Trump is so great.
jordan holmes
I want to hire 10 people to, anywhere Alex goes, suddenly sometimes hit him with a tomato.
Like, just always be around Alex Jones.
Never know when it's going to happen, but I want him to be hit with a tomato semi-regularly.
dan friesen
Eh, it might do him some good.
jordan holmes
I think it would be a good idea.
dan friesen
Now, Alex in this next clip speculates that probably what's going to happen before the election is they're going to false flag kill Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
Boo!
They're going to false flag kill Joe Biden.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, it made Selena more popular.
Right?
jordan holmes
I mean...
alex jones
We should open the phones up and ask, what do you think they're going to pull?
They're going to pull false flags, people try to truck bomb Biden.
Hell, they might kill Biden to make him a martyr because he's such a loser.
jordan holmes
Biden.
A martyr.
alex jones
That's the only way to save a loser who's politically dead is to kill them and then you can have them resurrect.
Like the phoenix.
Not literally, but metaphysically.
So, yeah, they might kill Biden.
They might assassinate Biden.
They're definitely going to attack the power grid and the internet.
Because if there's an internet kill switch, which they already have in place, selective sensory is not going to work enough for them.
They want to cripple things.
dan friesen
Sure.
Sure.
jordan holmes
See, this is just all the...
This is every...
I feel like every 1940s movie where at some point somebody is acting crazy and then fucking DeShiel Hammett slaps them in the face like, calm it down!
And everything's fine again.
dan friesen
Except no one's slapping him.
jordan holmes
No one's slapping him in the face!
I feel like he's supposed to be...
That's why he needs the tomato.
Somebody's supposed to be there to grab him by the lapel, slap him in the face and be like, get a hold of yourself, man!
dan friesen
Go to the bathroom, splash some water on your face, and get it together.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, what are we doing, man?
dan friesen
Well, I think what he's doing is the buckshot sort of strategy.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Because you notice how everything is being touched on.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
dan friesen
Internet, censorship, kill switch, Biden's gonna get assassinated, they're gonna...
Start a new Ice Age.
They're going to release super bioweapons.
jordan holmes
Whichever one's your flavor, that's the one I'm talking about that's going to happen.
dan friesen
And if anything close to any of them happens, I'm going to pretend that's all I was talking about.
jordan holmes
Look, Chicago got nuked, and I still stand by that, Dan.
dan friesen
He knows that everyone's going to forget the 50 things he says and focus on his interpretation of the one thing that was close to what actually ends up happening.
jordan holmes
That's because Democrats don't have memories.
dan friesen
And plus, if one...
One of his, I don't know, fringe, weirdo community members does take a shot at Biden.
jordan holmes
Hey!
dan friesen
He's ready.
jordan holmes
He's ready.
He can call it a false flag.
unidentified
It's a false flag.
jordan holmes
I told you this would happen.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex improvises a little story here about how them dem globalists, they're going to crash the stock market.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Probably, you know what would be fun?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Because if they did it like...
Right around Thanksgiving.
So you go home, and you talk with your parents, and everyone's scared.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
What are we doing?
alex jones
It's not going to work enough for them.
They want to cripple things to create a sense of confusion, a sense of desperation.
And then they plunge the stock market 10,000, 15,000 points.
You know, right before Thanksgiving.
Or maybe right after Thanksgiving.
Now, they'll probably do it before Thanksgiving, because they're going to want you to...
While they're contesting the election to go and be all freaked out and scared.
Yeah, that's what they'll do.
Probably got a rider truck loading it up with AMFO right now.
I'm sure they do.
They do, of course they do.
They've always got a bunch of these little hamsters running around in hamster wheels.
dan friesen
Alex is just making all of that up.
jordan holmes
He's not alone.
Other people can hear this.
This is somebody alone in the room just going, and what else are they going to do?
They're probably going to come find a name.
They're going to go through my windows.
They're going to walk out my door.
Yes, that is what they're going to do.
No, that's what's going to happen.
I've convinced myself just now.
dan friesen
It is him convincing himself of these things.
That's what it sounds like.
jordan holmes
This is insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's very troubling.
jordan holmes
It is weird to hear somebody do that where other people can hear them.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, no.
Yeah, they're gonna do it before Thanksgiving because they want you to be freaked out with your family.
They're probably loading up rider trucks.
Yes, that is what they're doing.
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
I, too, have had trouble going to sleep at around 2 a.m., and you can't sleep for about two hours because everything is just going...
You've got anxiety dreams, you know?
But you're alone, and you deal with it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's deeply, deeply disturbing to hear this.
So, anyway, in this next clip...
Alex accuses liberals of thinking that the smuggler coyotes, they're actually coyote coyotes.
alex jones
And of course, there's an Infowars.com article.
Liberals are so stupid.
Leftists are so disconnected from reality.
They've never been on a farm or ranch.
They thought that Trump meant children were riding on coyotes.
When I saw that last night, they said, oh my God, that's the name of human smugglers is a coyote.
Put that headline back up.
That is so crazy.
The blue check marks are like, he's crazy.
Coyotes don't bring kids into the United States.
People do.
That's what they're called, you dumb bastards.
dan friesen
I'm sure Alex would add the same response to Trump thinking that coyotes referred to the animal, like Trump did in a 2018 speech, saying, quote, without borders, we have the reign of chaos, crime, and believe it or not, coyotes.
Because of this very clear instance of Trump appearing to not know what coyote meant, when he used the word repeatedly in the most recent debate, people were most likely making fun of that, using the old reference as a jumping-off point, and Alex is pretending that's not part of the context.
alex jones
Get Trump's full response to kids in cages.
I want to play that.
I want to play where he says, coyotes, you know, the smugglers.
He even knows they're that stupid.
He even goes, oh, I just used a technical term.
They won't know what that is.
Wow.
jordan holmes
Wow, indeed.
Wow.
I agree, wow.
Wow.
Wow.
alex jones
Just wow.
jordan holmes
Just wow.
alex jones
Wow.
Wow.
dan friesen
Trump obviously was saying that because he said that in 2018 and everyone made fun of him.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That's the only reason that he would do that, because that's how grown up he is.
He's trying to make it look two years later like he isn't as stupid as we all know him to be.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
So Alex takes some calls, and he gets one from a listener who wants to know how we take our country back.
And Alex's immediate response is, of course, you already have, because you support my show.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
And then it gets more troubling.
unidentified
Well, what does Trump do, though?
How do we take our country back before we reach a point, a path that Well, you've done it, ma 'am.
alex jones
You've supported us.
I don't know how long.
We're on air.
We have a huge effect.
Other independent groups do.
And we've taken the power into our own hands and are not just sitting back and letting the corrupt outside system do this.
And so, you vote.
You speak out.
You say no.
And if they kill the president or turn it into a hot war, then God knows we're going to have to study total resistance and carry it out.
So, we're not the ones that did this.
We're the ones that started it.
I'm not looking for a fight.
Believe me, I don't want one.
But if they're looking for a fight, they came to the right place.
dan friesen
Because we got tons of catchphrases.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Platitudes and nonsense.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, you already supported, you already saved the country because you support me.
And also, maybe we're going to have to kill some people.
jordan holmes
Like, remember when the government, like, I wish the government was like, let's talk about what the best tax policy is.
That'd be great.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That'd be awesome.
Like, let's talk about how best to take care of roads.
Garbage pickup.
dan friesen
Maybe some people have some slightly different ideas about local control versus where the federal state line should be.
jordan holmes
Did everybody forget that government is supposed to be really, really boring?
Is that how bored we are?
We're just like, something has to be interesting.
dan friesen
Well, it's because we've created fake...
Factions within it that are interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Like, everything is espionage and high drama.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
There's a deep state all the time now.
Yeah, yeah.
We used to have...
Deep state used to show up once every couple of seasons, you know?
It's not a fucking every episode thing.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we got one last clip here.
And it's because the third hour, a lot of it is Alex interviewing Catherine Austin Fitz.
I just found it incredibly boring.
She's somebody who's a frequent guest on Project Cam a lot.
And she didn't bring the hits?
No, did not.
But we have one last clip, and it's Alex explaining that he couldn't be a cop.
And I agree with that.
jordan holmes
I also agree with that.
dan friesen
And then we end on a very familiar note.
alex jones
It's just a mess out there, man.
You could not get me to be a police officer.
Period.
It's always been a tough job, but it's just, I mean, God Almighty.
Talk about, because I mean, now, if you shoot somebody and there's any question about it, you're going to prison if you're a cop.
I mean, here's the deal.
We've all been in fights, or most of us have.
I had a dog bite me, not too bad, because I caught it right as I was doing it a few weeks ago, and I got mad.
And I kind of wasn't thinking once I punched the dog in the face a few times.
jordan holmes
A few times!
alex jones
I was trying to kick the guy's ass as he was smarting off.
And I was like, God, why did I do that?
Because it was the heat of the moment.
I mean, I don't have those controls.
And I just could not be a cop.
dan friesen
Alex has outrageous hostility towards dogs.
jordan holmes
No, you cannot.
No, with that kind of shit, you can't be outside.
You cannot go.
Don't tell me I can't be a cop whenever you just said I saw a person and beat the shit out of his dog for a while.
dan friesen
Yeah, you should be wearing a cone.
You should be in a fucking containment.
Wow.
Yeah, it's strange to hear an adult be like, I punched that dog in the face a couple times.
jordan holmes
A couple times!
You didn't punch it one time.
One time is the heat of the moment.
A couple of times is you're a fucking crazy person that needs to be in containment.
dan friesen
I feel like the strategy generally, too, with a dog that's a little bit out of control is get away from it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not punch it in the face.
jordan holmes
Not go right for the face.
dan friesen
Multiple times.
jordan holmes
No, you could not be a fucking cop.
Jesus Christ.
You can't be a grocer.
dan friesen
Also, one of the reasons that people are up in arms and protesting as much as they are and have such a backlash and this conversation is happening so passionately is because when police shoot people, they do not typically end up getting arrested.
So, anyway, Alex, you're wrong.
You're stupid.
Everything is dumb.
I can't tell you how different this is from looking at the 2016.
It's just a completely...
When we went and looked at November 4th and 6th, 2016, there is demons.
All that stuff.
Everything is so fucking different.
It's all, I love Trump, I cried watching the debate.
As opposed to the first time around, it's all Hillary's evil.
It's very different and equally annoying.
I look forward to the election season kind of ending because, like I said, I do realize it's electoral politics does not mix with crazy conspiracists.
It's like oil and water.
And that's why this is so...
It doesn't make sense.
That's why he seems so desperate.
I mean, there's plenty of other reasons.
jordan holmes
This is really sad.
Like, when you get down to it.
dan friesen
It's disgraceful.
jordan holmes
Like, it is a really disappointing existence.
dan friesen
But, even if you think that, there's one good thing you can say about Alex.
alex jones
I'm not eating my employees, goldfish!
jordan holmes
What the hell?!
dan friesen
We do appreciate that.
jordan holmes
That is very nice of him not to eat his employees' gold.
dan friesen
Yes.
I give you four stars.
Go home and tell your mother.
jordan holmes
Here's what.
That's an easy thing for him to say, though, because everybody already knows that he could eat their goldfish, so they keep their goldfish away from him.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It is an opportunity, not a motive situation, Dan.
dan friesen
What about the goldfish crackers, Alex?
Do you eat the goldfish crackers?
jordan holmes
They were clearly marked with my name on them!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, anyway.
We got, you know, interesting couple days ahead of us because now we have this emergency Joe Rogan episode on Friday and then back to...
2016 election on Monday.
And hey, you know, you got some time if you are concerned and you can and it's safe.
There are early voting.
People should look into that.
I don't know.
I always...
jordan holmes
Mailed mine in today, actually.
dan friesen
Great.
I always try to be kind of...
You know, respectful of that being a very personal thing.
You know, I do believe that a lot of that...
Vote bullying can be a real thing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I don't want to engage in that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, you know, people should vote.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, we'll be back.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yes, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook!
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
Yes, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm going to take my dog to an old folks home to snoop for ballots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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