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#494: October 19, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how the week began on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex totally doesn't get mad at a caller, Jordan demands specifics about the Devil's powers, and Steve Pieczenik puts forth a confusing and upsetting plan to take down "Big Tech."

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alex jones
11:40
d
dan friesen
41:22
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jordan holmes
23:22
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steve pieczenik
02:57
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patrick howley
00:16
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
I've got an answer.
jordan holmes
All right, what's your bright spot?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is a word of the day.
jordan holmes
Okay, a word of the day.
dan friesen
My word is forgiveness.
jordan holmes
Forgiveness?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I'm very hard on myself.
It's very difficult for me to forgive myself.
jordan holmes
True.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
I let things go with other people a lot more easily.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And I found that there's a middle ground, and that is cats.
jordan holmes
The musical?
dan friesen
No, I don't forgive that.
jordan holmes
What about the Seussical?
dan friesen
I do forgive that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I have had to deal with resentment towards Celine, my cat, for the better part of a couple days, and I've reached the stage of forgiveness.
jordan holmes
She can be a pill.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So I had...
A room where I was growing some plants, and I had a bit of a cat...
Gate.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Set up.
Some netting.
alex jones
Mesh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it was working pretty well, but Celine's crafty, and she found a way around it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so I woke up one morning, and she had completely destroyed my pinto bean plants.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
And I was really mad about that, because they were coming along really nicely.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They looked good.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I thought it was really cool, the prospect of, hey, there's a pinto bean growing here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very cool.
dan friesen
And so she destroyed them.
jordan holmes
She, too, thought that it was very cool that a pinto bean was growing there.
But she would prefer it to only stop her.
dan friesen
We had different ways of expressing it.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And I was pretty infuriated.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so I was mad.
And I've reached forgiveness.
I understand that she didn't do it to be mean.
jordan holmes
No, of course.
dan friesen
She's a cat.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Although maybe she did do it to be mean.
unidentified
She is a cat.
dan friesen
She might have.
Yeah.
The attention I was giving to these plants might be something that draws her ire.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
But anyway, I forgive you, Selene, wherever you are.
jordan holmes
That's very...
Yes.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot?
You know, Dan, it's a bittersweet spot.
In some ways, it's a bright spot.
dan friesen
Isn't that that song by the Verve?
jordan holmes
I think it is.
dan friesen
It's a bittersweet...
jordan holmes
No, unfortunately, Dan, my bright spot is very much related to...
No, keep singing.
I want to see how long we can...
With plants, you know, I've been trying to grow that cantaloupe for a long time, and I did a really good job, and it worked out well.
alex jones
Oh, it's plant-related.
dan friesen
I'm listening.
jordan holmes
It was going great, and then the first frost took it out.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
You know, it's sad because I was actually really trying to keep this one alive as opposed to my normal standoffish nature towards plants.
As you know, I'm not a fan of the out-of-doors.
dan friesen
That is true.
I don't know if I would describe it as standoffish.
That seems like a little bit weird.
Like, you have a brusque relationship with plants.
jordan holmes
I don't appreciate that.
Look, a lot of people care for them and they're kind to them and say all kinds of words to them and I very much want them to give me their approval.
How about that, Dan?
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
How come plants are never...
dan friesen
I think I do!
jordan holmes
I think it's a one-sided relationship.
dan friesen
Plants could stand to be politer to you.
I'll go with you.
Well, I'm sorry to hear about this.
I was partially invested in your...
jordan holmes
Well, my bright spot is that it's lasted longer than any plant that I've ever taken care of before, and it's given me, like, a nurturing towards plants that I didn't have.
dan friesen
So the bright spot is sort of progress.
jordan holmes
It is progress.
dan friesen
Well, that's good.
Words of the day, forgiveness and progress.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
And now let's talk about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Man incapable of either.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we're going to be talking about October 19th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
Oh, goddammit.
dan friesen
That was Monday.
Monday, Monday, Monday.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Quite a day.
That's how most people start the week.
Yeah.
And this is an interesting showing today, I'd say.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
An interesting showing.
dan friesen
I've listened to a bit of Alex's show in the recent past, and so much of it is just about Hunter Biden and his laptop.
Yeah!
And weird conspiracies about how there's videos of him torturing children on the laptop, which is being used to blackmail him and Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
And I have very little patience for this storyline.
It's just Pizzagate all over again.
It's exactly what happened four years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm really appreciating how the mainstream media seems to have kind of been like...
Alright, we're not gonna go with this.
Let's see how this goes, right-wing lunatics.
dan friesen
Then they turn the story into they're covering it up.
It's a win-win for the right-wing media.
I find very little interest in watching Alex go down those roads.
And thankfully, this Monday episode had other things to fill in the blanks.
It wasn't just Alex talking about that laptop.
Otherwise, I don't know what I would have done.
I would have very little interest.
Today, we get a visit from the surviving champion weirdo in Alex's clique, which is Steve Pachanek.
jordan holmes
Dr. Steve.
dan friesen
He shows up to give some words of wisdom for Alex.
jordan holmes
It's okay.
dan friesen
I guarantee you, you could never predict what his solution to big tech is.
jordan holmes
You know, I never would try.
I've learned my lesson with Pachanek.
He takes swings that I find heretofore unimaginable.
dan friesen
This swing is...
Quite bizarre.
jordan holmes
I mean, when you got the, maybe we should make Melania Queen take in the ether sphere.
dan friesen
When you're capable of that.
jordan holmes
It's like anything.
Anything can happen.
This is the red wedding every single day.
Anything can happen.
dan friesen
Well, we'll see what Steve's swing is for the day, but before we get down to business on the episode, let's take a little moment to say thank you to the folks who signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, I just got out of rehab.
Thank you so much.
You're on How Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
I just got a rehab.
dan friesen
Yeah, good luck.
Thank you.
Next, Full Tilt Nikki.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Full Tilt Nikki.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Atlas M. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Atlas!
dan friesen
Next, Stanton T. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Stanton.
dan friesen
Stanton.
unidentified
What a name.
jordan holmes
Stanton is a name.
dan friesen
What a name.
jordan holmes
I love it.
Giancarlo Stanton, best hitter.
It hits a ball a million miles away.
dan friesen
Next, Jeremy M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Jeremy.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevator, though.
We appreciate that very much.
So, Peyton P., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Afro Cheesyak, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare InfoWAR on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Peyton, and thank you so much, EfroCheesyA.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're listening out there and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support these gents, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or...
jordan holmes
What you could do is take that generous spirit that you were given from your close friend, maybe even your best friend, take it home, water it...
Feed it.
Give it light, sun, all of those things that you need to grow and make sure that you take that generosity to a local bail fund or charity before the first frost.
Otherwise it will die and it will leave you destitute and lonely.
dan friesen
And bittersweet.
jordan holmes
And bittersweet.
unidentified
Symphony is life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Jordan, October 19th, I will say that Alex, though he's not singularly focusing on the laptop, he is talking quite a bit about it.
So here's a little taste.
alex jones
I'm going to get into the laptop and the big revelations of Hunter, and not just hookers, and not just sex, and not just crack, and not just meth, but doing illegal things, underage, raping them as a form of torture, but reportedly beating up little Chinese girls as part of him as the initiation.
Into the Communist Party, China.
So that he'd be fully compromised.
jordan holmes
Does everyone have to do that?
alex jones
This is what's really happening.
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently.
The Communist Party is big.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think that Alex has a very strong burden of proof here.
And I'm just going to say that that is his story about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now...
jordan holmes
Here's the thing about that.
From what I've seen, you could just go with like...
What they are lying about or saying, you know, you don't have to then escalate it to heights that are just...
Just silly.
Silly.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Silly.
dan friesen
But the thing is, it worked last time.
jordan holmes
Yes, it worked last time, but even then, it's like, you can believe Hillary Clinton does that shit.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't quite understand what the deal is, because I also think that there's a real miscalculation, just strategically.
with the way Alex is playing this game with the election.
Yeah.
unidentified
Because, I mean, I hope that the polling that we're seeing is accurate Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I don't exclude a possibility that Trump could win again.
Then what?
They have vanquished the devil.
jordan holmes
Why do you think Biden's gonna win?
Look, Trump is obviously going to win with 97% of the vote, and that's how you know it's a free and fair election, Dan.
I don't understand this polling that people are doing.
dan friesen
I just think he's backing himself into this weird space where it's like, alright, if you lose, then start shooting, right?
I mean, like, the devil has just taken out the last chance for Western civilization.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's the end.
dan friesen
But then if Trump wins, then...
How potent is the devil's threat?
jordan holmes
I mean, look.
unidentified
You can beat the devil.
dan friesen
You can beat the devil electorally.
unidentified
What are you...
jordan holmes
What are you...
What?
dan friesen
I just don't...
jordan holmes
You know what?
That's what a lot of people don't know about the fall.
The devil just lost the election.
It was God and the devil running for God, and the devil lost, and that was it.
dan friesen
Jeff Probst came over and extinguished the devil's torch.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was it.
It was just a simple election.
Everybody's made a big deal out of good and evil, man.
Come on.
dan friesen
Beelzebub, the tribe has spoken.
jordan holmes
Look, whenever God was elected, the center right took part.
unidentified
All right.
I just want to bring light to the people.
dan friesen
We are out of here.
jordan holmes
Get out of here!
dan friesen
God had an alliance with Gaia and they voted the devil or something.
jordan holmes
I feel like the devil sounds like Bernie Sanders now in my head.
Now that I know the devil lost the election.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just think it's a bad move.
But I do just see shades of the last election and some of those washed over strategies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Proof is presented otherwise.
That's kind of the ballpark I'm living in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so far what it does look like we're living through is them going, well, it worked last time, and then looking around at everybody, seeing them a little bit different.
It is almost heartwarming to see that there is a small percentage of the population that is still capable of learning.
It's nice.
It's nice.
dan friesen
Alex, on the other hand, is not.
Because he doesn't do any preparation, and he doesn't read, and it becomes very clear right here.
alex jones
And it goes on from there.
Sweden to start lockdowns as the world's 12th highest COVID-9 death rate totally made up garbage at the lowest rate in Europe.
dan friesen
Alex accidentally read that headline, didn't have a spin for it, so just had to deny it.
jordan holmes
Made up.
dan friesen
Made up.
jordan holmes
Bullshit.
Fake news.
Nope.
Disagrees with me.
I disagree with it.
unidentified
Bye.
dan friesen
Alex didn't know where that headline was going to end when he started it.
It was fascinating.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
Huh.
jordan holmes
Do you think every time he reads headlines when he's off the air, he has that rollercoaster ride of like, ooh, this one's going to be good for me.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
If he does, I understand not reading.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because that would be very intense.
jordan holmes
That's an exhausting day.
dan friesen
Unpleasant.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just reading like 20 headlines is an emotional rollercoaster.
Damn.
dan friesen
So we know that Alex likes fake Thomas Jefferson quotes.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But here we get another quote from a different person, and we can see if this is real.
Spoiler alert, it's not.
unidentified
Oh, damn it.
Trump knows he's going to win the election.
alex jones
Winning isn't everything.
As as Stalin said, the matter of votes, it's who counts the votes.
The threat is real.
Waging war on corruption.
unidentified
It's Alex Jones coming to you live from the front lines of the Infowar.
Here we are toe-to-toe with the New World Order.
alex jones
The Chi-Coms, the global master bankers, the genetic engineers, big tech, all the left, devil worshippers worldwide.
Radical Islam aligned with them, with their great general Satan in command, fusing together through a world fascist system, all these disparate groups into a giant battle axe, trying to destroy what's left of Christendom.
Only our slumber empowers them.
This is why his show sucks.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that's why it's so jarring to even go back to that February 2016 episode where it's like...
There's not a devil you're fighting against.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
In 2020, you're fighting against the fucking literal devil.
jordan holmes
It is really...
unidentified
It's annoying.
jordan holmes
It's really hard.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's really hard to remember that I'm supposed to take serious...
In 2016, we're taking his political viewpoint seriously.
dan friesen
At least as an exercise.
jordan holmes
Or at least engaging with them on their own level.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Approaching it from the position of, is it possible that there's merit to this?
Almost always there isn't, but now it's almost impossible to behave that way.
jordan holmes
It's literally, even for me to engage with him on the possible merits, I then presuppose that the devil is real.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then...
Based on the plans that he says the devil has.
dan friesen
From thousands of years back that are culminating now.
jordan holmes
I have to define the intent of the devil.
dan friesen
So way back when, in biblical times, this here devil, he had a plan.
And the devil's plan was meddle around, poke people with that fork of his.
Create a really, really hot resort.
jordan holmes
It's going to be so hot.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it'll be miserable.
Bad, bad resort.
jordan holmes
Who runs it?
Trump?
All right.
dan friesen
Then, the culmination of this plan is Joe Biden running for president.
It's hard to imagine that, like...
I don't know, back in the days of the prophets and the Old Testament, they'd be like, yes, the devil, the greatest trick he's trying to pull off is center-right presidency.
jordan holmes
Man, see, this is where we keep getting back to the problem with making your enemy imaginary.
Is then the limits of your enemy are your own imagination.
So what you accidentally reveal is how little you are capable of imagining things.
Like, I am not afraid of this devil.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
The devil that I am afraid of has powers beyond what I can even imagine simply because I imagine him to have those powers.
Not...
Getting Joe Biden elected.
dan friesen
Any devil that's worth being afraid of, you can't beat.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Impossible.
It's the devil.
It's the literal devil.
It's eternal.
If you can win against eternal with Joe Biden, then there's nothing.
dan friesen
Or with Trump.
Either way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, either way.
dan friesen
If you can beat, again, if you can beat the devil at the ballot box, that's not a great devil.
jordan holmes
That's not a good devil.
dan friesen
If the devil follows contract law.
unidentified
I love contract law being an issue.
dan friesen
Anyway, that's not a Stalin quote.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That quote predates Stalin.
unidentified
Probably.
dan friesen
And something very close to it was attributed to Stalin in his secretary's memoirs.
But those didn't come out until quite a while later.
And there are existing formulations of this quote that predate Stalin being in power.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so, no, that's just one of those fun anti-communist isms that Alex throws around.
jordan holmes
I imagine that sentiment has been around since, like, the third election in Greece, where somebody was like...
I don't think that motherfucker counted my vote.
That's where it began.
That's the quote.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I wouldn't doubt something similar to that.
So, I think that this next clip really sums up Alex's show.
If you just imagine, in the background of this quote, there is a devil.
There's a literal devil.
jordan holmes
There's a literal devil, yeah.
alex jones
All right.
I'm going to give the number out here in a moment.
I'll start taking some calls.
Next segment, I've got huge COVID news.
It's absolutely got to be hit so far.
With some new big developments next segment, but right now, this segment's all about me, which I don't do on purpose.
dan friesen
That, to me, is like...
jordan holmes
I don't do on purpose!
It's your show!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Everything you do is on purpose.
dan friesen
It should be.
Yeah.
Yeah, that to me is like, that's really distilled Alex Jones show.
There's a lot of big news, I'm going to take some calls, but this segment is about me!
unidentified
It's about me!
jordan holmes
And I'm not going to take any responsibility for any of it.
dan friesen
No, it's basically about how everyone's getting censored online, and I told you it was going to happen, conservatives.
And he has an example of somebody who has become afoul of being kicked off something.
Facebook?
Maybe Twitter?
I'm not sure.
alex jones
You wake up in a total tyranny.
Facebook suspends user Jamie Allman's account after shows a huge rally of black Americans for Trump in D.C. But that gets banned because it's hateful.
dan friesen
I don't know exactly what's going on with this situation.
But Jamie Allman is a St. Louis media figure who is no stranger to having his social media accounts locked.
In 2018, Twitter temporarily suspended his account after he tweeted, quote, I've been hanging out getting ready to ram a hot poker up David Hogg's ass tomorrow.
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported, quote, the context for his comment was unclear.
In the fallout from this bizarre threat, Allman lost a ton of sponsors on his radio shows, which ultimately led to him losing two St. Louis media jobs.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Then, because you get a million chances in life if you're a conservative who's willing to say horrible things, Allman was hired back in 2019 to Morning Radio.
Then, in April of this year, NBC5 in St. Louis investigated a leaking of the personal information of hundreds of city residents who submitted tips about businesses not following COVID-19-related health guidance.
Approximately 900 people had called in tips under the condition of anonymity.
According to the report, quote, some were reporting their bosses.
These sort of tips are technically public records, so they're not released automatically, but they are subject to sunshine laws.
Sure.
unidentified
Which Jamie Allman used to dox these St. Louis residents on his radio show and on social media, labeling them snitches.
jordan holmes
Wow!
Ah!
I mean, I don't disagree with the characterization of snitches.
They are snitching.
That's fair.
On the other hand, he can go fuck himself.
What a giant piece of shit.
There's no reason to be a good person if you've got this fucker roving around trying to scoop up any information he can to destroy you.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I threatened to put a hot poker up a school shooting survivor's ass, and then I lost my sponsors and got fired, and then I got another job in the same field.
Why should he ever have any fear of, like, any lingering, lasting consequences?
jordan holmes
And also, why, if you've hired him, do you not immediately, like, knock on his door anytime anything goes wrong?
Like, oh, somebody leaked this information.
Get to his door!
Quick!
dan friesen
Get me all in.
jordan holmes
Hurry!
Hurry!
He's leaving through the window!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I have no idea what the deal is with his account getting locked this time, but I'm not going to believe the version that's being pushed by Gateway Pundit that he just posted a video of black Trump supporters and he got shut down.
I'm certain that there's more to this story, but I also don't care what a conservative troll did and is now pretending he didn't do in order to feign victimhood.
So anyway, Jamie Allman.
And Alex is pretending he's not some right-wing media figure.
He's regional, and Alex doesn't really give a fuck about Missouri.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
That makes sense.
jordan holmes
He wouldn't know anything about him.
dan friesen
He's not some private citizen who posted...
I mean, I guess he is a private citizen, but he's also a media figure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has...
Gone on the record and said that the false flaggery in Michigan, the militias who were planning to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer.
jordan holmes
100% false flag.
dan friesen
False flag.
jordan holmes
The devil.
dan friesen
Alex has been vindicated.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Media Matters.
George Soros' group.
This didn't age well.
This is from just two weeks ago.
Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones alleged kidnapping plot against Michigan Governor Whitmer, a false flag by the deep state.
Set up by FBI informants.
I predicted that it was run by FBI informants.
I said probably two of the top people, probably two out of the ten.
That's usually how it works.
And yes, it was led by two FBI operatives.
Now all confirmed in court documents, exactly as I said, which is because I know what I'm talking about.
dan friesen
It's not confirmed in court documents.
The defense is claiming...
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure.
dan friesen
I mean, like, yeah, of course they are.
jordan holmes
It's proved in court.
dan friesen
Of course they are.
jordan holmes
The defense put it in court, and then everybody knows that means it's true.
dan friesen
I think that, you know, we need to see how these things play out and more information about specifics is needed for me to make a stronger...
Telling of what happened.
But from everything I can tell, it looks like there were some militia people who are notoriously not careful.
And they had informants who were infiltrated.
They were talking about kidnapping Northam and Whitmer, and then they got arrested.
And of course, if that were the situation, your defense would be like, they set us up.
It's the only angle you have, because there's recordings and text messages.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, you gotta say that they set you up.
I mean, it's like, look, the FBI has set up, like, part of their counterterrorism strategy is find people who maybe might want to think about doing something and then, like, push them as hard as they can towards causing terrorism and then be like, ha-ha, we caught ya!
Like, that's kind of one thing they do.
But with these guys...
You can just walk up to, you know, you Google 4chan and then you've infiltrated six of these militias.
They're not smart!
dan friesen
I'm not saying that police and law enforcement don't do that, because obviously there are instances of that.
But it's just as lazy to assume that they always do that as it is to assume they don't.
Sure, sure, sure.
I think one of the reasons that we know about the existence of those sorts of things is because those are outliers.
Right.
And I don't know.
Again, one of the reasons why I feel like we need more information is because the story is fairly unclear.
But from everything I can tell, it's not a bunch of feds setting up people.
But anyway, here's Alex's clip of himself from the past predicting that this was a setup.
jordan holmes
He's playing his own I told you so clip.
dan friesen
What a petty asshole.
He wants to rub it in Media Matters' face.
jordan holmes
What a fucking dick.
alex jones
And what other false flags are we going to see now?
Because this is definitely probably a provocateur in action.
I mean, what do you do?
What if the governor said you can never leave your house again?
You've got to starve to death.
Just lay down and die, I guess.
Because the power to shut things down is the power to bankrupt.
It's the power to kill.
What about all the folks committed suicide?
What about all the folks...
That again, died because she's had COVID patients there.
Well, she's the governor.
She's above the law.
She's God.
dan friesen
Wait, so you're in favor of kidnapping her?
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure he's justifying her kidnapping, right?
He's saying it's totally good to kidnap her.
dan friesen
He's saying it's a false flag, but also...
jordan holmes
She should have been kidnapped.
Somehow he's like, yeah, it's a fucking false flag.
I wish it weren't.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also, a militia does need to incarcerate her in a basement.
What?
jordan holmes
This is something I totally would want my people to do, but in this circumstance, it's a false flag.
dan friesen
Well, because they did, and it didn't work.
jordan holmes
It didn't work, yeah.
So it's a false flag.
dan friesen
They got busted, so that's the feds.
jordan holmes
That's the feds.
Must be.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
Only way a real patriot would get busted is if they've already kidnapped her.
dan friesen
Yeah, that to me was very strange in terms of like, aha, here's my gotcha.
Your gotcha is saying it's definitely...
Probably a false flag, which I don't know what that means.
jordan holmes
Definitely probably.
dan friesen
And then being like, yeah, but come on.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't you want to see her kidnapped, though?
dan friesen
Yeah, right.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex, back to the present day here, he's in a battle between good and evil.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That's what's important to understand.
alex jones
And you know, there are other good people in the FBI.
There's good people at laptop shops, computer shops, that are going to tell the truth.
It's a war between good and evil, and it's going on in each and all of our hearts, minds, and souls.
But there's all that news.
Let me just briefly tell you this.
We're launching a new sale that only runs for 12 days.
We launched it last year.
It was very successful.
It is.
Here today.
Gone tomorrow.
Black Friday in October.
dan friesen
Ooh, Black Friday in October.
jordan holmes
We got Christmas in July.
We got Black Friday.
I think he's forgetting the reason for the season, Dad.
dan friesen
I don't think.
See, I understand Christmas in July, because it's like six months, give or take.
jordan holmes
It's a double Christmas.
dan friesen
It's about the sort of mirror image.
Black Friday is the day after Thanksgiving, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
October is pretty close to Thanksgiving.
jordan holmes
No, it's forever away.
dan friesen
It's too close.
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
A Black Friday in fucking April?
No, come on.
dan friesen
You're going to do a Black Friday in November and in October now?
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
It's too much.
It's too much, Alex.
jordan holmes
Black Friday in October.
dan friesen
But you know why you can't do Halloween?
jordan holmes
Because it's the devil's holiday.
It's the devil's holiday.
What's he going to do?
We're doing a special bat-themed sale?
No, that's the devil's bat.
dan friesen
Buckley, we cannot do a Halloween special because we don't sell candy.
jordan holmes
They don't sell candy.
dan friesen
Our supplements are as good as candy.
jordan holmes
You should try selling candy.
I think they could do well with some InfoWars branded candy.
dan friesen
Why not do it?
Less harmful than what you got now.
I guarantee by now someone's drank that iodine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, totally.
100%.
dan friesen
I can't prove it.
But I have a strong sense.
jordan holmes
You're convincing people to kind of put stuff in their mouths.
Why not just go all the way with candy?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this next clip is a thought that I found really interesting.
And I think, I wonder if you hear this the same way I do.
alex jones
Because diversity is strong and adaptive if there's a unifying Christianity or a unifying Americana, a unifying ethos.
But if you don't have a unifying narrative, You will disintegrate.
And that's what's happened.
Our narrative now is white people are bad and America sucks and be babies.
dan friesen
I like that you were taking notes and you wrote down the word diversity and then put a line through it.
Those were the notes.
unidentified
That's it.
jordan holmes
You didn't write anything else down.
I wrote down, I was like, I write down diversity.
That's where he's starting.
And then let's see some notes continuing on.
And then his following words, I was just like, oh, no, cross out diversity.
dan friesen
The end.
What I hear from a clip like that is diversity is great as long as there is a robust status quo that supports my interests being primary and the only ones that are really important.
jordan holmes
I can't believe you would call me a white nationalist because I do not want an all-white nation.
That's crazy.
I'm a white supremacist.
I want a diverse nation where I'm on top running everything.
unidentified
What don't you understand?
dan friesen
This is really interesting to me because I've heard him decry diversity tons in the past.
So for him to say diversity is great as long as people are subject to Americana or a narrative, that's weird.
That's strange.
I mean, it's not strange at all, but it's strange to hear him say it.
jordan holmes
It is weird for somebody to literally say, I'm a white supremacist, and not understand that those are the words they're saying.
It is strange.
dan friesen
So Alex finally gets to some calls, and this one guy, he's got an answer about big tech.
And the solution, I think, is very reasonable.
I think this caller is...
I mean, I don't know what else they believe.
They're calling into Alex's show, so it can't be that great.
jordan holmes
Not great.
dan friesen
But this perspective is sensible, and that is like, okay, yeah, Twitter and Facebook are really bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So what you need to do is you need to foster other platforms.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And try and get people off of those.
Create alternatives so we can create more of an ecosystem.
Sure.
Online.
And Alex is like, nah, no time.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Everybody that's listening right now, if they went and do that and at least mirror their profiles and then get all their friends and family, 10 people, get 10 people, get them off of the big tech platforms.
alex jones
Well, sir, hold on a second.
You know, I've been preaching this nonstop for a decade.
I've really been hammering it for four years.
Exactly.
You use the big platforms while you still have them to promote all the little platforms and grow those as part of the exodus.
And that's exactly what needs to be done.
14 days out, though, brother, and I appreciate your call.
14 days out, day late, dollar short.
People better be sharing on Twitter, on Facebook, on all those, even if you're going to get banned or set up a sub-account in the Infowar, however you can now.
Again, don't share banned.video on Twitter.
Share 2020ElectionCenter.com.
That gets around their systems for now.
But absolutely, that would have been a great idea.
Everyone should go to Parler.
Everyone should go to Gab.
Everyone should go to Telegram or Telegraph.
dan friesen
There's no time.
We can't do this.
So instead of any productive thing that I could have been doing in the past, what I've been doing is changing URLs constantly so I can still be promoted passively on Twitter and Facebook.
I spend my resources.
Dodging bands.
I don't put any investment really into, oh sure, I'll have the guy from Gab come on my show from time to time, but I don't care about it.
No one's there except extreme.
unidentified
Bigots.
Yep.
dan friesen
So who cares?
It's not a fertile ground.
jordan holmes
It's so weird whenever they kicked all the extreme bigots off of Twitter and they were like, we're not extreme bigots.
How dare you?
How could you do that?
And then they went to the other place together and they were like, oh my god, everybody's an extreme bigot in here.
Who would have guessed?
What a shock.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh man, this bigotry isn't my bigotry.
You're even more bigoted.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I would say that if Alex has been sounding this alarm for a long time, then he probably should have contributed to the solution of it, as opposed to desperately trying to still promote his stuff on the platforms that exist.
I mean, I guess he did try to do that Infowars dating site.
jordan holmes
That's true, he did do that.
That didn't work out.
I think that one had some, like, just general design flaws.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would say, like, before we even get to the website or the design...
dan friesen
Design and conception flaws.
jordan holmes
Conception is probably, like, that should have stayed in the meeting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's something that should be up on the whiteboard and then erased immediately afterwards.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we get another caller.
This fellow's from Canada, and I think he should stop trying to meddle in our election.
alex jones
Peter in Canada, what happens if Biden wins?
I want your take.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
alex jones
Yes, sir.
unidentified
Yeah, with two weeks left, it's too late.
If Biden wins, the U.S. is sunk.
What Trump has to do right now is do the Insurrection Act, get rid of Bill Barr, and round up and prosecute every single one of them.
Biden, Hunter, Hillary.
alex jones
By the way, they're the authoritarians that have tried to have three coups.
dan friesen
They're the authoritarians, by the way.
Just remember that.
Yeah, Canada.
Calm down.
jordan holmes
Here's what we'll do.
Here's my peace treaty, all right?
This is, I think, how we're going to solve this, right?
So even if Biden does win the election, people are going to go apeshit, right?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Here's what we do.
We have a sit-down between the left and the right.
dan friesen
Sort of a Bishop Desmond Tutu.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a little bit of a thing.
We're going to negotiate something, all right?
We will totally put the Clintons and the Bidens and the whole lot of them in jail if they just leave us alone.
I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with that.
There's some reason to put them in jail.
They're evil.
dan friesen
To borrow a term that was a lot more popular a couple years ago, I think that would embolden.
jordan holmes
That's probably true.
dan friesen
That's probably true.
I don't know if that's a good solution.
jordan holmes
I just want a nice treaty that we get that.
We just move on.
dan friesen
I do like the idea of some sort of a treaty or something.
Or some kind of...
It doesn't feel like there's a way forward without some massive...
jordan holmes
There needs to be a real negotiation in good faith.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know if that's possible, but something's got to happen.
jordan holmes
I'll put the Clintons in jail for you guys.
That's in the treaty.
That's in the treaty.
I will do it.
dan friesen
I'm not sure I support this.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
Alex is like, yeah, man, they got to do this.
He's supporting what this caller is saying.
They got to just lock up all the political enemies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
Thanks, Canada.
dan friesen
Now, here's how this looks to Alex in real-world terms.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Communist China has blackmailed Joe Biden.
We have the emails proving it.
And of other foreign powers, he is not fit to be the leader.
And they all need to be arrested.
And then after the leadership has been arrested, a new Democratic Party can form.
And in a year, we can have another general election.
And this is not because I fear Trump's going to lose.
He's going to legitimately win.
But they've said they want secession.
They've said they want martial law.
And you're damn right, sir.
If they can't steal it with an overwhelming fraud, they're going to then contest, have secession, race war.
We can't just sit back and let foreign powers do this.
We're under attack.
dan friesen
So he's from Canada.
Alex?
Is saying we should destroy the Democratic Party, lock up all the leadership.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
New Democratic Party.
jordan holmes
Of who?
dan friesen
I don't know, people who did get arrested.
jordan holmes
What, like, Kasich?
Is Kasich our new Democratic National Party?
dan friesen
The Wicked Project is now the Democratic Party.
jordan holmes
That's about as close as they would accept.
dan friesen
And then we have another general election.
jordan holmes
Of course!
We do it all over again, Dan!
That way we know it's right this time.
We do it every year until Brexit happens.
dan friesen
I tell you what, if you want chaos...
That is a good way to get it.
Lock up your political enemies and then promise some kind of a bizarre pseudo-election a year later that obviously is never going to happen.
jordan holmes
No, why would that happen?
What kind of idiot would actually hold that election?
Who would run?
dan friesen
He locked up the last guy!
unidentified
I know, right?
dan friesen
Also, how would you create an apparatus like the Democratic Party within a year that could be viable as a national party?
jordan holmes
You just pop one out.
dan friesen
Come on.
This is childish shit.
Yeah.
But anyway, Alex says, like, you know, he's talking, you know, Trump knows he's going to win.
You know, he's not afraid of Biden, but he has to lock him up.
jordan holmes
Right.
That sounds like something that dictators do when they are totally not afraid.
dan friesen
Then Alex says this.
alex jones
I've talked to some high-level people today that don't want to go on record yet.
Roger Stone's on tomorrow, by the way.
dan friesen
So he's him, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would be him then.
alex jones
You know, Roger doesn't want to attack the people running the campaign, but...
But I mean, I know the numbers, and I know the internal polling, and Trump's only five points ahead.
He was 15 points ahead last time, and that's how he was able to still win, even though it was massive fraud.
He's only five points ahead in most of these states, and the fraud will be so high, he's going to lose.
And so all these Republicans thinking, oh, we're going to win, having this euphoria and stuff.
I'm sorry, folks.
Right now, Trump's going to lose via fraud, and the Communist Chinese will rule America with the satanic pedophile Democrats who love to rape little girls.
dan friesen
Well, all right.
jordan holmes
I mean, he sounds fairly resigned to it.
I mean, more positive.
It wasn't like, and then we have to go kill everybody.
dan friesen
I don't think he had time before the commercial to ramp up.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I think he didn't realize he was going to get that extreme until the music started.
And then he's like, ah, shit.
unidentified
And then the Chinese are just going to run.
jordan holmes
If that's what you guys want, fine.
dan friesen
Trump's only up by five in secret polls.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck out of here.
That's pathetic.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, secret polls.
alex jones
Polls.
unidentified
Fuck off.
dan friesen
Much like Laura Loomer's secret polls.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
So earlier in the episode, we heard Alex accidentally read an article's headline about Sweden without knowing anything about what was going on.
And then just having to be like, nah.
He does this again about Brazil.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And this is interesting.
alex jones
But look at this headline.
Brazil's major state, run by a communist, calls for mandatory COVID vaccinations to buy or sell.
And the communist state is now buying 46 million doses.
dan friesen
So that headline he's reading makes no sense, given that we all know that Alex loves Bolsonaro, who is the president of Brazil, and thus we know that the country is not run by a communist.
Alex is saying that there's a Brazilian state that's run by a communist, but because he doesn't know this story at all, he's stammering, and you can even hear him second-guessing the story as he reads it on air.
The story is about the governor of Sao Paulo, João Doria.
Doria is not a communist, and in fact was the host of the Brazilian version of The Apprentice, partially because he's a famous businessman and is worth almost $50 million.
Alex or one of his employees saw that Doria is a member of the Brazilian Social Democratic Party and decided that makes him a communist.
In reality, that's a fairly centrist party in Brazil, and was actually the main governmental opposition to the More Socialist Workers Party, which included figures like Lula and Dilma Rousseff.
jordan holmes
I imagine Alex spends all of his time reading foreign news just going like, why don't you name things the way I name things?
dan friesen
Why don't you name things right?
jordan holmes
Wait, so who's the party in Australia?
Labor is the good guy?
Guys, what are we doing here?
dan friesen
If all you know is the name, then Social Democratic Party might make you think the guy's a communist.
But if he were, he would probably be a member of the Communist Party of Brazil, or possibly the Democratic Labor Party, or even the Workers' Party.
jordan holmes
Those are the secretly capitalist parties.
steve pieczenik
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
You see, it's an upside-down world.
dan friesen
Little things like this showcase Alex's lack of depth in terms of any kind of reporting that he's doing.
He has no idea what this story is about, other than that it's a foreign politician doing something he doesn't like, so go ahead, let's claim it.
He's a commie.
steve pieczenik
Totally.
dan friesen
Also, Alex doesn't know this, so let's hope he doesn't find out that actually Bolsonaro was elected president as a member of the Social Liberal Party, which is actually super right-wing.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
That would just confuse the poor boy.
unidentified
Yeah, no, we can't.
jordan holmes
No, don't even get started with that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I always find it really interesting when you can almost tell that Alex is reading a headline.
He's like, this has got to be a misprint.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, what?
Wait, I like Brazil.
jordan holmes
No, that's not how they...
That's not the words they...
I wonder what would happen if somebody just removed Bolsonaro's name from all the headlines and just put social liberal politician.
How different would his coverage just be?
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, he's an independent now.
He left the social liberal.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
But do you know what I mean?
Is that all it takes, really?
dan friesen
It would be interesting, too, to see if no one had ever called him Brazil's Trump.
Would Alex care at all?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, totally.
dan friesen
I imagine it wouldn't come up.
No.
jordan holmes
Why would he care?
Unless it was, like, Brasilia's Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know what we need to do?
We need to find some, like, really leftist politician and brand them as, like, some other country's Trump.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
See if we can get that done?
dan friesen
I'm sure you could.
jordan holmes
I think we could.
dan friesen
You know one person who could get it done?
jordan holmes
Who?
dan friesen
Steve.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Our old boy, Steve Pchenik.
Hey.
Overthrower of governments.
Champion of...
Literally every event that has ever happened in the world.
That's true.
Steve comes in and he wants to talk about how the Democrats are self-destructing.
jordan holmes
Sure they are.
steve pieczenik
For several years now I've told you that the Democrats have been self-destructing because...
You've had, they're too old.
They're too old.
They're too antiquated.
They're too irrelevant to what's happening in this new era.
In an era where we need a businessman who's never been a politician, who understands business.
Sometimes he makes a mistake, but he knows how to correct it.
I can't have an 87-year-old Dianne Feinstein who's worth $858 million.
I can't have a Nancy Pelosi who's...
80 years old and worth 35 million.
I can't have a Maxine Waters worth 8 million and it's 82 years old.
In other words, what you're seeing here is Biden, what we said all along, he's the metaphor for what happened to the Democratic Party.
Senile dementia.
They eventually erupted and became literally senile demented.
dan friesen
I mean, fine.
Point taken.
Election politicians are generally...
Too old and I think that we could stand to inject some younger representatives in.
jordan holmes
Get Feinstein out of here.
Even when Feinstein was young, she was shit.
dan friesen
Fine.
That conversation is fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not a Democrat problem.
jordan holmes
It's an electorate.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not a Democrat problem.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Oh, do you mean the party of old white men is also a part of a problem?
dan friesen
Trump is 74. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
jordan holmes
Let's not start talking about ages here.
unidentified
Steve is 76. Yeah.
jordan holmes
Trump is a young man.
dan friesen
Also.
The idea that he's listing off people's ages and how much money they have when he's like, Trump is old and rich.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I have no idea what he's trying to do.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
That's incredibly...
All I'm hearing while he's doing that is like, in my head, I'm just going like, Trump's old too.
Trump's old too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And he has a lot of money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or maybe he doesn't.
dan friesen
Appears to have a lot of money.
jordan holmes
Maybe you're the one who's insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, I found that to be disorienting.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's only one thing that I can really cling to.
One rock.
That is the constant.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is that Alex does not like police states.
alex jones
I'm against police states.
But when you've got a foreign power backing crazy people that are doing all this saying they're going to cause a civil war, they're going to cause secession, at a certain point, they've got to be militarily dealt with because that's what they're saying they're going to do to us.
You've got all the Democrats saying once Trump loses, they're going to come arrest all of us.
Well, that's not going to happen.
A civil war is going to happen.
steve pieczenik
You're correct.
dan friesen
So now, the thing that I think is really funny about that, first of all, is Steve just being like, yeah, whatever.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, sure.
dan friesen
The second thing is, like, Alex, if you understand his show and you actually know what he's talking about, I can translate that clip to being, I'm against the police state.
But Keith Olbermann said something, so we need a police state.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I feel very attacked, so I would like a police state to make me feel better.
dan friesen
I feel very attacked by Keith Olbermann's YouTube channel.
jordan holmes
So we need a dictator.
The ultimate safe space is a police state, Dan.
dan friesen
We need a dictator to save us from Keith Olbermann's commentary.
jordan holmes
What if Bill Maher says something next?
Where does it end?
It's a slippery slope, Dan.
You don't have a police state, then you get Olbermann, and then you...
Oh, shit, it's all the rails.
dan friesen
If Keith Olbermann is ever invited on Bill Maher, it might cause...
jordan holmes
Oh, then it'll be over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, totally.
His head will explode.
dan friesen
Speaking of head exploding, this is where I got really, like...
I don't know.
Steve, what are you doing?
Steve has a plan vis-a-vis...
Dealing with Twitter.
Mic down for this because you could never...
jordan holmes
All tweets should be replaced with Melania.
dan friesen
No, Melania doesn't come up.
But this plan is offensive.
It's silly.
Man, Steve.
jordan holmes
I like it.
steve pieczenik
But there's another reason I'm going to attack him.
And the reason becomes more personal.
dan friesen
He's talking about Jack from Twitter.
steve pieczenik
Since he decided to become personal with Trump and use Hunter Biden and started to threaten our own president and our own people, including me.
And that is Grinnell has to ask Dorsey, isn't it amazing for the past 15 years you've been considered the bachelor of the year?
What does that really mean, Dorsey?
Now remember, Grinnell is proud he's gay and I have no problems with somebody being gay.
I do have a problem when you have somebody like Dorsey who thinks he's self-righteous, who thinks he's better than other people, and he doesn't want to come out publicly that he's gay.
That is a problem for me.
The hidden secrecy and nastiness of a guy like Dorsey.
unidentified
Why is that a problem for you, Steve?
jordan holmes
I have zero comprehension of why he's talking the way he's talking.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, what are you doing?
Because Jack made it personal with Trump.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
Wait.
dan friesen
So, if you understand, Steve, his plan to deal with big tech and Twitter is to call Jack gay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is so stupid.
jordan holmes
What we're going to do is we're going to put Jack in the center square!
steve pieczenik
That's what we're going to do.
dan friesen
Hey, Steve, this is a great idea.
Let's act like schoolyard children and gay bash somebody.
I don't know what Jack's...
Don't care.
jordan holmes
Here's how he should have responded.
Don't care.
See?
You don't need to take.
You don't need to take on how to call somebody.
dan friesen
And quite frankly, that should be with Steve.
He shouldn't care either.
I don't understand this plan.
So Grinnell is...
jordan holmes
I mean, because here's what he's saying.
Here's what he's saying.
I don't care if he's gay.
What I don't like is somebody I don't know not lying to me about something that it's not my business to know.
dan friesen
Well, sort of.
I think also this harkens back to old-school anti-communism and the days when someone's sexuality could be used to blackmail them and stuff.
jordan holmes
House Un-American.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I think that that's what...
I mean, again, Steve is 76. Yeah, well, that's true.
jordan holmes
He might be too old for...
dan friesen
It might be too old for this fucking phone call.
unidentified
I just don't understand this.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is not just something that Steve is thinking up.
This is a plan that he wants to put into action, and he also seems a little bit pissed about some bad customer service that he got.
He used to use Square, right?
Which Jack started as well.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I think Steve's still a little mad about that.
steve pieczenik
Number one, when I owned Twitter, the stock years ago, I couldn't find out where their office was.
No one answered.
Then when we were using Square, guess what happened?
They said they don't work on Saturdays and Sundays.
Well, Dorsey, you got multi-billion dollars, but the one thing you can't cover up is the fact that you are covert or homosexual.
jordan holmes
Whoa!
Whoa!
What the hell is going on?
What the fuck just happened there?
dan friesen
This show.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
I don't even know what to say.
When I'm listening to this, I'm like, wow.
These people's brains work in such bizarre...
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
That's just wild.
dan friesen
Steve's screaming about not getting customer service when he used Square because they took weekends off and then somehow he's going to get back at Jack by calling him gay.
jordan holmes
What in God?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
When we overthrew Rome, Brutus didn't take my advice.
I said what we should have done is called Julius a dick.
But it didn't go that way.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
I...
dan friesen
I mean, Steve's seen better days.
unidentified
In terms of, like, sinister plotting.
dan friesen
This is just being an asshole.
unidentified
This is just being a bigot, a homophobe, and an asshole.
jordan holmes
This is stuff that should get...
Shut up, old man!
Write a letter!
dan friesen
Whether or not Jack is gay is not my business, and I don't care.
But whether or not that is the case, what Steve is doing is deeply homophobic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, incredibly and deeply homophobic.
dan friesen
So anyway, that's Steve's big plan to deal with big tech.
And I will say that the caller who called in earlier had a better plan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would argue that as well.
dan friesen
So anyway, Steve also has some bad plans for Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's hear this.
alex jones
We need drastic action now.
What else would you say needs to be done?
steve pieczenik
Well, what I would say is I'd get a new attorney general right away and get rid of Barr.
I would show the country that he is not...
You're real hurt by that.
Nor can the agency continue with what he's been doing.
Similarly, I would get rid of Gene Haskell.
In other words, even with 14 days left, I would start firing people right and left so that the country can understand we're getting rid of the vestiges of the old regime that came out of Yale.
alex jones
Great idea.
Great signal.
Just start.
Anybody that's establishment, anybody that's globalist, I mean, you could Google them in a minute and find out who they are.
Just fire thousands.
steve pieczenik
That's what I would do.
dan friesen
You know what this advice translates to?
This is like, hey, sacrifice people to the anger of the mob.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Start kicking people out the windows.
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, you want to chop that dude's head off?
Guess what?
You got him!
dan friesen
Here comes Pompeo!
Alex's advice is, or Steve and Alex's advice is basically like, throw people off the lifeboat.
This fucking thing is sinking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
We got two weeks till the election.
Fucking sacrifice whoever you got.
Take down the entire FBI.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
unidentified
Why not?
jordan holmes
Do whatever it takes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Man, you...
dan friesen
That is, to me...
An indication of people who are doing well and are thrilled about their prospects.
jordan holmes
Hey, no, he's only ahead by five points in the internal polling.
Secret polls.
dan friesen
Secret polls.
jordan holmes
You have to be so far gone, so far gone down the rabbit hole of bullshit to believe that Trump would ever even think of getting rid of Barr.
dan friesen
At this point.
jordan holmes
I mean, if Trump makes Barr feel bad...
Barr has everything.
Like, it is ridiculous to...
Barr owns Trump.
Like, forever.
dan friesen
Seems like based on the...
I mean, I hate to put on my Steve Pochenik psychiatrist hat, but it seems like based on the psychology of the individuals, it seems...
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, Barr is trying to...
dan friesen
I would bet on him over Trump.
jordan holmes
Oh, 100%.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
No, Barr is inserting the Department of Justice in as a defendant for Trump's libel case.
Like...
That's the level of Barr knows everything, is involved in covering up every crime, is doing everything.
There's no way you fuck up your fixer!
That's not happening.
dan friesen
No.
So, we have one last clip here from Steve's appearance, and it comes after Alex talking about what a class act Trump is, because Trump, after Alex's second wedding...
Trump called and wanted to talk to Alex's wife about how, like, oh, great blessings on your union.
And Steve says this, and I swear, it's just like, sometimes he'll come in and it's like, oh, it's a racist day.
Oh, it's an anti-Semitic day.
jordan holmes
Today it's a homophobic day.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
steve pieczenik
The good news is that he understood that your wife was better looking than you.
alex jones
Exactly.
steve pieczenik
That's why.
Don't forget, he likes women.
And good God.
And I'm glad he likes women.
That's been a unique feature of our president.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
What is fucking happening?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's also a dig at Michelle.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I'm confused.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
These people are nuts.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a jarring appearance on Steve's part.
jordan holmes
All right, man.
Just go back to your townie bar at 10 a.m. and then go to bed at 9. Just fucking leave us alone, you old bastard.
dan friesen
So Steve leaves and Alex gets to rambling about how he's always right and Trump's going to win no matter what.
alex jones
My gut's never wrong because it's just thousands of data points integrated into the subconscious and then the spirit makes the decision.
If they held the election today, Trump's going to lose because of massive fraud.
He's got to get his points way up above her, not just 5, 10 points, 15, 20 points to beat the fraud.
unidentified
Her?
jordan holmes
Do we wish we were running against somebody else?
alex jones
By this overwhelming landslide, they're going to contest it, folks.
So just anywhere you slice it.
This is a foreign outside takeover of the country, literally.
dan friesen
Yeah, so no matter what, Trump's going to win.
He's probably going to lose if they do it today because of cheating.
And the her part is partially, I think, subconscious Hillary stuff.
And then I think the other part is, prior to this, they'd been talking about how Kamala Harris is going to be the actual president.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Because Joe Biden's just going to be watching his stories or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fuck it.
Why not?
You know what I want?
I want to continue this rant.
dan friesen
I like it.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
And Alex does not take this well.
unidentified
You know damn well that the FBI has not confirmed anything.
alex jones
No, they've confirmed they had the laptop.
unidentified
It's being harangued by Senator...
alex jones
Dude, you're trying to call into this show and gaslight us?
That Hunter Biden and his dad...
Okay, did his dad get up on C-SPAN and say that they were investigating us, so I went and said, I won't give you a million bucks, and they fired the prosecutor?
unidentified
Listen to me, boy.
alex jones
We're done with you, boy.
You're the punk, okay?
You think you call in here and gaslight my audience.
You don't do that.
You're a joke.
If I had more time, I'd keep you on, but I gotta get to the other callers.
jordan holmes
I had more time.
dan friesen
It's a time thing.
jordan holmes
You fucking coward!
dan friesen
It's a time thing.
jordan holmes
Just say you didn't like him and that's why he's gone.
dan friesen
It's a time thing.
unidentified
I didn't want to beat up on you with all my facts so I don't have time for it.
dan friesen
Well, honestly, I think what happened there, if I had to guess what the sort of logic tree that Alex's brain went down, it was, alright.
This guy obviously knows that I'm embellishing the shit out of this story and what the FBI has confirmed and all this.
That is trouble.
So what I'm going to do is see if I can get him dancing around this clip of Biden and the prosecutor.
I'm going to see if I can get him to take the bait on arguing about that.
And he just said, no.
jordan holmes
I'm going to jingle some keys over here, and that guy was like, I'm not interested in your keys.
dan friesen
I'm ignoring the keys.
jordan holmes
Don't care about the keys.
I'm not a child.
dan friesen
And that's why Alex has to hang up.
unidentified
Goodbye!
dan friesen
Because if you can't detract somebody over to a side argument, you can't talk to them.
One of the reasons I think that call is a good example of why it's almost pointless to try and confront Alex about things on his show.
I think there's probably some people who could handle bringing up decent points to him, but it won't go anywhere.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
One thing I think I would like to hear someone ask him, or I'd like to ask him myself, is, alright, 2007, you're on your show.
You're talking about whatever you're talking about.
Are you lying to the audience about the devil being behind all of it?
Or was the devil not behind it then?
jordan holmes
You know, a lot of people like to argue about whether or not the devil's real.
And those people haven't been to the extra dimensions that I have, Tim.
So, what you gotta realize is...
dan friesen
What you need to realize...
jordan holmes
I mean, the devil's in all of us.
So, yes, I mean, technically the devil was in the booth back then.
dan friesen
What you need to realize is before he died, I talked to Charlie Daniels.
And actually, he was working on another song.
A follow-up to The Devil Went Down to Georgia.
Georgia, I was called The Devil Went Down to Cayman Island for a vacation.
And during that period of time when I was on air talking about the Federal Reserve and all that stuff, just sort of, you know, political intrigue conspiracies, that The devil was on vacation.
jordan holmes
He was at the beach.
dan friesen
He was having a Mai Tai.
He was enjoying himself.
You should have seen him in that Hawaiian shirt.
It looked good.
jordan holmes
See, I really want to get into a discussion of what the devil's specific powers are.
dan friesen
You ever go spearfishing with the devil?
He's got that fork.
jordan holmes
Can the devil materialize things?
Can he materialize a drink if he so wants it?
dan friesen
Only Mai Tais.
jordan holmes
Does he have to order it, or...?
dan friesen
The devil can only materialize situationally appropriate drinks.
jordan holmes
Does he have to get the glass from somewhere else and then he can materialize the drink?
dan friesen
He can only materialize drink-appropriate glasses.
If he's on a beach, he can get a Mai Tai and a flute.
unidentified
If he is at a speakeasy...
dan friesen
He can get an old-fashioned...
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
...or a Moscow mule.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
Naturally.
If he's at an oyster bar, he can have a martini.
All of this is possible.
dan friesen
This is...
jordan holmes
I love this devil.
dan friesen
This is canon?
This is confirmed?
jordan holmes
Yes.
The FBI is confirmed.
dan friesen
They've declassified the devil's powers for drink materialization.
jordan holmes
That's what I want.
If you're going to start telling me the devil is real, you better start telling me what the limits of his powers are.
dan friesen
Yeah, you better get hyper-specific, because I'm going to get bored real fucking fast.
So bored.
jordan holmes
Even Captain America, eventually, you're like, oh, okay, he can carry the hammer of Thor, whatever.
We at least get it.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, a lot of the times when Alex gets a call like this, it ends up ruining his entire show.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I was really worried, even though we're in the third hour, I was worried that he was going to completely fall apart.
unidentified
Naturally.
dan friesen
He doesn't, man.
He just goes to another call and everything is fine.
He's not even thinking about that other caller.
unidentified
I wanted to say my mentor reminds me often, never stop an ego on its way to self-destruction.
It doesn't need your help.
And the way I see it is that America's ego that's been lulled back to sleep in the wake of Bernays' propaganda is destructive.
But the good thing is that what follows an unhealthy ego's collapse is the formation of a healthy, mature ego, which is...
People waking up.
alex jones
I agree, but if we have a collapsing third world of nuclear weapons, the collapse of the ego may kill us.
unidentified
I guess no comment there.
alex jones
Think about the danger of that, but what do you think of the last guy?
He says, the Bidens would have said this was fake up front if it was fake.
They have said nothing.
Now we have the lawyers' emails.
The FBI admitted they had the laptop.
unidentified
I have nothing to say about the last guy.
I mean, I don't even know why he's listening to your show, if he's going to call and harass.
alex jones
I mean, I would have spent more time with the guy.
I just got to get to their calls.
But it's just the arrogance and the con game.
Like I was some 70 IQ 14-year-old girl he picked up at a bus stop.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
I could absolutely have continued talking to the guy.
But I had to get to more calls.
Like you.
dan friesen
Who I'm going to talk to about.
jordan holmes
I'm going to talk about the old guy.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
That tracks, Dan.
That tracks.
That's worth it.
I do love, especially when I heard that guy say something very, very boring and Alex not say anything, I was like, that guy is in Alex's head right now just going, boy, over and over and over again in Alex's head and he's just like, oh, I can't yell at that guy.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
Oh, he called me boy.
dan friesen
I'm going to yell.
Not about that guy.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I'm going to sublimate that.
It's yelling at Christians who don't support Trump.
jordan holmes
That's wrong.
unidentified
I just want to talk about, you know, I've been seeing a lot of people, a lot of Christian people that I believe are good intentioned, but they're still thinking about, you know, they don't like Trump or they want to vote for Biden because, you know, they think...
alex jones
Oh, they want to act morally superior and say, oh, he's terrible, but he's better than Biden.
No, he's an incredible champion that's been through hell, and you should back him and get persecuted for it, you damn cowards!
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Yikes.
I think that's gross and bad, but also, I only really play this because it transitions into a little bit of Bible talk, which may be a new segment on our show.
jordan holmes
We love Bible talk.
dan friesen
This is a really special edition of Knowledge Fight Bible Talk, because Alex gets into some Old Testament business, but he also talks about something that happened in his own life recently that I find almost impossible to believe.
unidentified
Okay.
Pharaoh had a dream about seven years of great harvest and then seven years of famine.
Joseph interpreted that dream as the prime minister.
They did not share that information with the people.
They kept that to themselves.
They, as a government, stockpiled food, and then they were able to sell it back to the people, and then in following years, the people had to sell their lives.
alex jones
Oh, yeah, that goes back to the dream of the prophet in Egypt.
Remember that?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Of the seven years of fat, the seven years of skinny.
unidentified
So if people don't think that...
jordan holmes
It's the same.
unidentified
Same story, buddy.
alex jones
You know, I was talking to a high-powered Democrat to show you how evil these people are about a month ago, how I had to meet with some issues.
And I was meeting with the local Democrat mafia head, and he said, Alex, what's going on was done 4,000 years ago in Egypt.
With the seven days of plenty and the seven days of...
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
The seven years of famine.
And I was just like, they already know all this.
They've just decided to be on the other side.
Do you believe that?
dan friesen
Nope.
unidentified
Nope.
alex jones
It's funny you called about that because that...
Sorry, go ahead.
jordan holmes
It is funny.
It's very funny that he called about that story that is 100% true that only happened a few days ago.
Synchronicity.
dan friesen
Within the last month, I met with a local globalist mafia leader.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
A local globalist mafia leader who is confused about the simplest dream interpretation anyone has ever heard of before.
dan friesen
I have an interesting theory about what Alex is referring to, and we'll get to that here in a minute.
But first, Alex is going to talk a little more about Pharaoh.
alex jones
Look at Pharaoh.
They went and dug up the Sanskrit and the hieroglyphs.
It's true what's in Genesis and what's later in Exodus and all that.
Pharaohs in Exodus ordered...
The firstborn of the Israelites killed is a way to just call off boys.
They don't want too many boys because they don't want warriors.
They want women they can control.
Nothing against women.
It's a fact.
dan friesen
Yikes.
Leaving aside the historical accuracy questions about biblical events, Alex's interpretation of why Pharaoh wanted to kill the Israelite boys is not necessarily the consensus opinion.
Going back to Josephus' commentaries on Exodus, one of the most mainstream understandings of Pharaoh's decree was that his advisors had prophesied that a male would be the one to save the Jews, and thus the killing of the boys was an attempt to stop this from happening.
This is mirrored in the story of Jesus' birth when Herod ordered the deaths of all male children who could possibly be in the right age range to be the Messiah.
From Josephus, quote, One of those sacred scribes who are very sagacious in foretelling future events truly told the king that about this time there would be a child born to the Israelites who, if he were weird, would bring the Egyptian dominion low and would raise the Israelites, that he would excel all men in virtue and obtain a glory that would be remembered through all ages.
Which thing was so feared by the king that, according to this man's opinion, he commanded that they should cast every male child which was born to the Israelites into the river and destroy it.
This was, of course, the backstory of Moses.
In the context of Exodus 1, there's a concern about the increase of the Hebrew population and that they might become enemies of Egypt and side with the enemies of Egypt if there was a conflict.
But the way that Pharaoh attempts to deal with that within the text is by enslaving them and forcing them into hard labor.
The killing of the male children is a slightly disconnected thought from old commentaries.
A lot of the belief is about the prophesying of the coming of Moses.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
That's one of the very first versions of the story where it's like, in terms of time travel prophecy stuff, where it's like, yeah, the prophecy only comes true because you act the way you would normally act if you had heard the...
If you didn't want Moses to show up, maybe just be a nicer dude.
By killing everybody, you were the one that created the whole problem that got us into the first place.
You have to act outside your nature if you don't want prophecies to come true.
dan friesen
That's the trick.
I don't like you calling Moses a problem.
jordan holmes
I think he was a problem.
dan friesen
Maybe from the perspective of Pharaoh.
jordan holmes
I mean, look.
Pharaoh...
He's just a rabble rouser.
He's an instigator.
You can't have him.
You just let him go.
dan friesen
I'm going to stay out of this historical debate.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, if I had my druthers, the Pharaoh and I would have a talk.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think Alex just doesn't...
Anyway, this is the end of Bible Corner.
But Alex does get back to talking about the meeting with the globalist mafia leaders.
And if you listen to this carefully, I think it's just his lawsuits.
alex jones
And by the way, folks can sit there and say, oh, you should never meet with the Democrats.
You know, that's evil.
No, it's not.
I never compromise one bit.
I mean, they say in the Bible that God meets with the devil.
And I'm not saying I'm God.
I'm saying it's an allegory.
The devil has to go up and ask God for permission for things.
I will absolutely meet with the enemy.
I've met with two representatives of the top billionaires.
I've met with the enemy repeatedly.
I've got meetings with the enemy going on right now on the East Coast.
I encourage the enemy to stop and give up and reject Satan and embrace Christ.
But they won't because they're of their father the devil.
The synagogue of Satan.
dan friesen
Well, I don't like that last part at all.
The synagogue of Satan seems like certainly a term that's been used by a lot of anti-Semites over the years.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, I mean, sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, when he says that he has ongoing meetings with the evil globalists.
unidentified
Ongoing high-level globalists.
dan friesen
On the East Coast.
You know, do you know that Sandy Hook trial is going on over on the East Coast?
jordan holmes
Well.
What a lying piece of shit.
dan friesen
Maybe that meeting with the globalist mafia leaders that he had recently was actually his custody hearings.
jordan holmes
Okay, so just because...
dan friesen
Family court.
jordan holmes
Okay, yeah.
It was the mediator.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They were a high-level Democratic mafia don.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, Alex, he just doesn't have time to deal with callers who disagree with him.
Who does?
He has really important stuff to...
jordan holmes
He's got other callers to get to.
dan friesen
Well, and even beyond that, really important guests.
alex jones
We got a special guest that got beat up in San Francisco on Saturday for having an event.
He's a well-spoken, nice black man that won't have a free speech event.
jordan holmes
Well-spoken.
You can't even not be racist ever.
alex jones
One of his teeth totally knocked out.
He's a tough guy, too.
Very Christlike.
He just takes the beating.
I'm not as strong as he is.
I'd have gone crazy.
I get so mad you knocked my front teeth out.
God, you're dead.
You're dead.
I'm going to beat your brains out.
He didn't know.
He's a better man than I. He took it.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
Okay, so we got a guy who got punched, who Alex is now having on as a guest.
jordan holmes
I'm going to declare that punch was a false flag.
dan friesen
Yeah, why not?
jordan holmes
I think he punched himself in order to make the left look bad, and that's why you should...
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Kidnap governors.
dan friesen
So anyway, this guy got punched, and the person who punched him has been arrested and is being charged with a hate crime.
And so I feel like, you know, hey, not great that people punch each other, but when they do, if someone punches somebody and then they get arrested, I don't really care too much.
That's kind of how it works.
Anyway, I have one clip of this guy, and it's him and Alex trying to make the argument that Joe Biden is racist.
unidentified
Yeah, he'll always go up and creep up on and sniff and touch all the white kids.
But you don't see him touching any children of color, do you?
That ought to tell you something.
Okay, I'm almost thankful.
alex jones
Ooh, that's a good point.
He's never grabbing on brown kids, is he?
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Ooh.
jordan holmes
Wait, that, I don't think Alex got...
He was just...
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I think there might be some facetiousness.
There might be some joking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, maybe.
dan friesen
It's really hard to tell if that is something that Alex thinks, like, oh, that's actually a good point.
Or, I don't know.
Anyway, who cares?
jordan holmes
Man, I would really, personally, and, you know, I don't know.
But I think it would be very hard.
To hear somebody call me well-spoken and then trying to argue that the guy that that guy doesn't like is the racist one.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, he's a very articulate...
What did you say?
You know what you're saying, right?
You hear what you say.
dan friesen
That's the battle of trying to deal with someone like Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
So, Alex, he co-opts the fourth hour.
Gerald Salenti was supposed to host.
And Alex just, he takes over the fourth hour.
He says, I gotta preempt him.
Salenti knows that this happens sometimes.
There's just too much important stuff going on.
I'm still mad at that guy.
jordan holmes
I'm still mad at that guy.
unidentified
Well, the good news is the waiting's over.
alex jones
The war is now.
dan friesen
So if the war is now and the waiting is over, I know that from listening to Alex's show, constantly people call in and say, When is the war?
jordan holmes
Is it now?
dan friesen
Is it time?
jordan holmes
Should the wait be over?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
alex jones
Hmm.
dan friesen
I mean, he's pretty clear about that.
jordan holmes
It doesn't seem ambiguous at all.
dan friesen
Starting the fourth hour with The War Is Now, The Wait Is Over.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Cool.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
The only time I want to hear The Wait Is Over is when it's the 69 Boys album that has Woof Woof on it.
I can't remember the rest of the songs.
Freak You Down to the Bass.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that's called The Wait Is Over.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Was that when freak was still spelled with a P-H or did P-H freak come...
dan friesen
It was spelled with a Q. It was spelled with a Q back then.
It's...
Alex says that he needs to take over the fourth hour because he's got some breaking news.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And because he needs to take phone calls.
He has these people who are on hold, and he's got to take them.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Because that was his excuse to not talk to the guy.
jordan holmes
What a whiny little baby.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he doesn't actually do that.
unidentified
Of course not.
dan friesen
He just sort of rambles about nothing.
And then he says, oh, man, I haven't taken any calls.
alex jones
So I'm going to go to break.
Go to Mac, Zach, and Noah.
You've held.
I'll get to all three in the next segment.
I love you, and I appreciate you.
Zach's first.
Briefly, because I didn't plug last hour, we'll be bankrupt if we don't.
I went to top developers, we've got like seven suppliers, and I said, I want the best multivitamin, mineral, amino acid drink that tastes great, that's natural, organic, healthy.
dan friesen
So he's taken over Gerald Salenti's time.
He has said, I'm going to go to calls.
He hasn't gone to calls.
And now he's taking up time doing an ad.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Seems like there's better uses of time than this.
jordan holmes
No, he's a very busy man.
dan friesen
Very busy.
jordan holmes
He's a very busy man.
dan friesen
Man, he is so busy.
jordan holmes
He's exhausted.
unidentified
The only two things in life that make it worth living is guitars are too good and firm-feeling women.
I don't need my name in the marquee lights.
alex jones
But now the anti-human system's here, telling us a baby's got to wear face shields and masks when they're born.
What a satanic cult.
Let's go back to Lukenbach, Texas.
Go back to America.
jordan holmes
Zach is still on hold, Alex.
Alex, you said you would get to Zach.
Alex, you said you didn't have time to talk to that other guy because you were getting too many calls.
Alex, Zach is still on hold.
I mean, this is a good song.
Alex, you're not talking to me anymore.
You're just listening to this song.
dan friesen
This show's a parody.
jordan holmes
I don't think workers' values should be tied to work.
No, me neither.
But I think you should do your job.
dan friesen
I honestly don't.
I would rather listen to Alex not do his job.
jordan holmes
That was pleasurable, yeah.
That was just listening to music.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a crapshoot, though.
I mean, it's like 50-50, he's gonna do this to kill time.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And 50-50 chance he's just gonna do that racist impression.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, you know, as long as he, you know, he errs on this side of just fucking killing time doing nothing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm all about it.
dan friesen
I'm not mad.
Not mad at listening to Waylon and Willie and the Boys.
jordan holmes
Why would you improvise a racist song when you could just listen to a good one?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Not hard.
dan friesen
Alex does take the calls.
They're not interesting.
Although, Zach called, and I was like...
You should never take calls from people named Zach, because it reminds me that you had a fake intelligence source named Zach.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Why would you do that?
jordan holmes
We haven't spoken to Zach.
It wasn't the Zach, because that was what I thought.
That's why I thought he chose Zach first.
dan friesen
No, it's another Zach.
jordan holmes
It's just a different Zach.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just somebody else.
jordan holmes
Whatever happened to Zach?
Wasn't Zach Q for a while, too?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, he was.
Zach was Q for a while.
jordan holmes
I remember that, yeah.
dan friesen
And he was Alex's Q, because he was mad at Q. Exactly.
He wanted his own, and so I've got Zach.
Zach spelled with a Q, or maybe a K, or I don't remember.
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I kind of, like, when he finally went to that call, I was like, what if it is Zach?
And he's like, Alex, where have you been?
Why have you called me?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, right?
dan friesen
No, it wasn't.
jordan holmes
No, they blocked that number.
dan friesen
Probably.
You'd call him from Morocco, though.
jordan holmes
Oh, I bet you can call him from down the hall.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has also Patrick Hawley in from National File.
Sure.
I hate this guy.
Honestly, I turned off the show.
There was still like half an hour left, but Patrick came in, and I was just like, I'm out of here.
And I think you'll know why once you hear this.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
patrick howley
Well, you know, look, I think what we're seeing now with Hunter Biden, first of all, I mean, I don't know if the left thought they were just going to cakewalk to this election with the stupid vote-by-mail and the drive-through Taco Bell voting, but I don't think they counted on the fact that Patrick Howley, 2016 veteran, Rudy Giuliani, our super agent, our James Bond for America, Steve Bannon, I mean, these people are still out here, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
Roger Stone, we didn't go away.
dan friesen
Who are you, Dennis Miller?
Are you trying to be an...
That has the Dennis Miller vibe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
I think that there's an attempt to be funny going on, but he also just sounds like a baby.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a real baby-ness to him.
jordan holmes
I'm annoyed.
dan friesen
I can't stand him.
jordan holmes
No, that voice, and then followed by what it said.
dan friesen
Pass.
There are very few people who I just have an outsized intolerance for, in terms of Alex Guest.
Patrick Howley is one of them.
I've listened to enough of him that I don't care about anything he says.
I can't imagine a world wherein he has a story worth paying attention to.
And this fucking voice is...
jordan holmes
It grates.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It's grating.
It's very grating.
dan friesen
It would be on its own, but I could put up with it if there wasn't the also, like, you're clearly trying to be funny and this isn't funny and I resent that.
Yeah.
So I just say it.
jordan holmes
You can't have a grating voice that is both being smug and unfunny at the same time at me.
Without me wanting to throw up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, that's brutal.
dan friesen
Patrick Hawley, 2016 veteran.
Like, he lists himself first in the list.
jordan holmes
I know.
I know.
dan friesen
That's gotta be, like, an attempt at self-effacing humor, right?
jordan holmes
He thinks it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He thinks it is, but he's not pulling it off.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, because he has a grating, annoying, smug voice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's, uh...
jordan holmes
What a dick.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's interesting, but in that way that's really not interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I just don't like it whenever they act smug after, like...
It is so many times they just pratfall and then from the muck covered in bullshit that they stepped into on the ground looking up at me with a smug look like, see, I beat you.
Like, what are you doing?
You fell in shit!
dan friesen
You did.
unidentified
Why are you making me feel like I'm the idiot?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we come to the end of this, and I don't know, man.
I just get the sense that the run-up to this election isn't as fun for Alex as last time.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's trying to play some of the hits with the satanic pedophile laptops.
jordan holmes
Not working.
dan friesen
And it's just diminishing returns.
It's a bummer.
Steve wants to gay-bash Jack.
jordan holmes
For no reason.
dan friesen
I don't understand what's even going on.
You know what?
This is so weird because when we were looking on our last episode, we were looking at that 2016.
I think that I could, in 2016, look at that episode and be like, I understand everything that's happening here.
Larry Nichols is pretending to have inside information about Scalia's death and there's a fake van outside his house.
I get it.
jordan holmes
Everything follows rationally.
Or at least logically.
dan friesen
I don't understand what's going on anymore.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
I don't understand what the attempt is, how they think that this is somehow benefiting their side.
Like, I don't know.
Maybe I'm worn down on satanic panic, but it just doesn't seem that potent anymore.
jordan holmes
I would imagine that everybody's worn down on satanic panic at this point.
dan friesen
It feels like it.
It just feels like this isn't going to move the needle.
People are tired of this.
jordan holmes
I think everybody's in, media-wise, people who are covering the election, it seems like everybody's in this one spot now where we're really not used to being, where there's still two weeks to go, and everybody has decided about two months to go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
So everybody's trying to still make this a thing that we're actively engaged in, whereas I'm...
My general vibe of everyone is we're all just like, I know what I'm going to do, and now I'm waiting for two weeks to see what all these other fucking idiots do.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is really strange.
When I was listening to this episode, Alex was like, it's two weeks till the election.
And I was like, yeah, it is.
That's weird.
Because I remember last time it being pretty intense.
jordan holmes
All the way right up until the day.
dan friesen
And I do still think that this is intense in as much as the stakes are really high and it's a very important thing and people should vote.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't want to vote shame anyone.
jordan holmes
No, be out there.
Do the thing.
unidentified
You're right.
dan friesen
I think you tapped into the feeling that I have, too.
It's like, I don't know anybody who's at all unclear.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, everybody's waiting for the day.
Look, there's going to be no difference.
Between voting today and voting in two weeks.
And I want people to really like, it is that bad.
It's that bad that we are now literally at a point now where I have to say, if Joe Biden shot somebody in the fucking street, I'd be like, fine, we'll elect him, put him into jail, but at least not Trump.
It's that bad.
It really is.
dan friesen
It's insane.
Trump's words used against him by aspiring dictator Jordan Holmes.
jordan holmes
It's brutal.
I don't understand what could possibly happen.
I mean, obviously, if he did shoot somebody, I think...
I don't even fucking know.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think if a demon popped out of a portal and went, blah.
jordan holmes
That could be.
No, I'm voting for demon all the way.
That's more exciting than anything that Trump is doing.
dan friesen
I would say...
jordan holmes
That's garden variety terror.
dan friesen
I'm going to vote for Biden, presumably.
Although I don't like to talk about voting patterns.
But let's imagine that I'm voting for Biden.
The only thing that's going to shake that is if the literal devil shows up.
It is like, haha, I'm the devil.
Vote for Biden.
But I still don't vote for Trump.
I'm probably going to just kill myself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because the literal devil showed up.
I don't want to live through whatever the literal devil has planned.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's the literal devil!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I couldn't handle that happening.
My brain would break.
It would be a Lovecraftian horror moment.
jordan holmes
I think I would wait a couple weeks.
I think part of me would be like, alright, well at least this is new.
Let's see how this shakes out for a little bit.
dan friesen
I would probably end up writing a sequel to the Dunwich Horror or something.
And then, yeah.
unidentified
Goodbye.
dan friesen
Anyway, I'm confused by what Alex is doing.
I'm kind of interested.
In checking the lead-up couple days before the election in 2016.
I really, I wonder, like Alex presents this image of like, I knew that Trump was going to win 100%.
I had unflappable.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So I think I might go back and try and see the days before the election.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I remember, like, in 2016, before we started the show, I wasn't watching Alex.
Constantly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I forgot that we didn't actually do the lead-up right to the election.
Our first episode was the...
dan friesen
January 2017.
Right at the beginning of 2017, right before the inauguration.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, and at that point, I was watching Alex a little bit, just out of morbid curiosity, and then I was also watching the debates and the election coverage on InfoWars, but I wasn't watching the show as much.
I think that might be interesting.
So I might check in on that for Monday.
jordan holmes
I would be interested in seeing that, yeah.
dan friesen
Because I wonder if he's doing the exact kind of same thing.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Might do that for...
Anyway, I just need something to make me less confused about what the fuck is going on on this stupid show.
jordan holmes
Well, I think they're mad and they're lashing out because by all and every reasonable projection, Trump is going to lose.
A free and fair election.
dan friesen
There's no such thing as a secret reasonable poll.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to Bet Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
iTunes review.
And then if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm the devil on a beach with a Mai Tai.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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