Today, Dan and Jordan put present day Alex Jones on time-out, and take a glimpse into the past. In this installment, Alex brings in the big guns to cover the death of Antonin Scalia, which ends up mostly being about a suspicious van.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes. | ||
| I can sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
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Dan! | |
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today is I splurged on a little investment for the show. | ||
| Oh, did you? | ||
| And that is this button press. | ||
| Watch out. | ||
| That I am touching right now. | ||
| I see it. | ||
| A little button maker. | ||
| It's very powerful. | ||
| I think that since I was a much younger man, I've always been really interested. | ||
| I didn't realize this. | ||
| It's a very deep, buried, subconscious thing in button making. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| When I was a young man... | ||
| I think I was jealous of the punks with their cool buttons and their bands. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You go to a punk show and every band has buttons and you're like, where do these fucking buttons come from? | ||
| Who are these magical buttons? | ||
| Everybody's got their leather jackets with their cool buttons on them, and I'm just sitting there like a dork. | ||
| It is really kind of puncturing of the punk aesthetic to realize that half of the time they're just in their basements pumping out buttons. | ||
| Someone is. | ||
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We're fighting the man, but also I gotta make these goddamn buttons. | |
| The nerdy one is making the buttons, and everybody else is pretending to practice their instruments. | ||
| That's why Rivers Cuomo got a band. | ||
| That's where you gotta start making buttons. | ||
| He's the button guy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I want to have something that I can give... | ||
| To listeners and stuff. | ||
| And I think it would be really fun to be able to just sit around while I'm doing some work listening to Alex just cranking out buttons. | ||
| Yeah, just cranking out buttons. | ||
| So we've got some updates about that forthcoming in the near future. | ||
| And then the other thing was like, so there's got all the punks with the buttons. | ||
| And there's this jingle, this commercial jingle. | ||
| I think from back when I lived in Hawaii. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know what business it was, but it was buttons, buttons, who's got the buttons? | ||
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We do. | |
| And it was like this button company. | ||
| I like a direct approach. | ||
| It's stuck in my head since I was like eight or nine. | ||
| I like a direct advertising approach. | ||
| Final thing, I think buttons are really cool. | ||
| I like going to antique stores and looking at these like... | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Weird, old, like, mayoral race buttons from 1960-whatever. | ||
| Yeah, we were in an antique store just the other day, and I was staring at all these, like, JFK and Reagan buttons and all that shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's something really, really cool about buttons, and I didn't realize how exciting it would be to have a button press. | ||
| I think it's a paradox in some ways, because there is also something deeply uncool about buttons. | ||
| Yeah, in 2020. | ||
| Yeah, it's a very interesting, fun thing to have. | ||
| Well, I'm going to hold on to it as a bright spot nonetheless. | ||
| Oh, indeed. | ||
| What about you? | ||
| For me, it is Open Mike Eagle just released his new album. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| And it is absolutely incredible. | ||
| Do you know what? | ||
| It reminds me so much of a green room conversation that comics have, where it's like some dude will be telling you the worst thing that's ever happened in his entire life. | ||
| And there's like four comics sitting around with him, and everybody is hearing this story. | ||
| And then there's a riff that happens, and everybody starts laughing hysterically. | ||
| And then it stops, and it goes back into the... | ||
| And that's just how we deal with that green room conversation. | ||
| And it's dark. | ||
| Darkly funny about his divorce and all that stuff. | ||
| But then, of course, it's also extremely sad about the worst things that's ever happened to him. | ||
| How is he dealing with the fact that in the age of COVID-19, there are no more open mics? | ||
| He's doing a great job with it. | ||
| He's moved on from those. | ||
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He kept the name, but he moved on from those. | |
| Zoom show eagle? | ||
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Middle eagle, yeah. | |
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| I'll have to check that out next time on the bike. | ||
| It's really, really good. | ||
| I do like his work, so that's awesome. | ||
| Hey, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about... | ||
| What's that? | ||
| February 16th and 24th, 2016. | ||
| Oh, that's in the past, Dan! | ||
| Again, this is now 2016. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| I support that. | ||
| This is now my autonomous of time zone. | ||
| Final TikTok, what are we up to today? | ||
| We're covering this for a specific reason, and actually there's a myriad of reasons. | ||
| One of them is that I tried to cook up a Project Camelot episode, but the episode I listened to, unfortunately, by the time I got through the interview I was preparing, I realized this person is not someone who I can make fun of. | ||
| I don't feel comfortable about their state of mind. | ||
| And, quite honestly, Jordan, I believe that after our last episode at the end of last week where we heard Alex's long racist songs... | ||
| Oh boy! | ||
| Very racist. | ||
| I just feel like it's the kind of thing where present-day Alex might need to go into timeout. | ||
| It's a timeout situation. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| There needs to be a punishment for this type of thing. | ||
| I feel at least... | ||
| You know how you're not supposed to yell at your cat? | ||
| You're just supposed to sort of, like, if it misbehaves, just sort of, like, ignore it for a little bit. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Don't give it the satisfaction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's kind of how I feel right now with Alex. | ||
| I'm going to go ahead and treat you like a disobedient cat. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Back off. | ||
| Back off! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we'll get down to this episode here from February 2016, but before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to folks who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
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| Thank you very much, Disembodied Spirit of Knock. | ||
| Also, the Disembodied Spirit of Knock wanted me to ask you if you had a chance to try that whiskey that got sent in by the Disembodied Spirit of Knock. | ||
| I think that's revealed. | ||
| I think that's revealed. | ||
| Yes, I did, and it is very, very good. | ||
| Do you have any, like, notes of vanilla or hickory or any pretentious sommelier notes? | ||
| You know, whiskey is difficult. | ||
| I don't appreciate it when people describe whiskey. | ||
| I honestly have this relationship with whiskey where it's like, you should be both surprised and delighted by the taste, and if you're anything other than that, if you have any other flavor situations, I'm like a little bit put off by that. | ||
| Alright, I'm writing down after notes of cherry. | ||
| It has a little bit of a good taste. | ||
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| It tastes good. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The next, on behalf of Catherine, Vince H., thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Vince. | ||
| Next, this is confusing and it's going to be tough verbally, but Barry, not Barry, and it's B-A-R-R-Y, not B-E-R-R-Y. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| I don't know how to pronounce one differently than the other, but Barry, not Barry, thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Barry! | ||
| And finally, Carga the Cogitator. | ||
| Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Karga, the cogitator. | ||
| Yeah, thank you. | ||
| I also, I'm not sure, I can't remember now if Alex calls himself a cogitator or a cogitor. | ||
| I want to say it's cogitator. | ||
| I was cogitating like a cogita- I want to say it's Cogitator because he thinks it's a name. | ||
| And he's thinking about potatoes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, thank you, Karga. | ||
| I appreciate it very much. | ||
| If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show. | ||
| I'd like to support these gents too. | ||
| You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or... | ||
| Or what you can do is go back to your little cupboard there. | ||
| Maybe you're not feeling too generous. | ||
| Pull open a very lovely bottle of whiskey. | ||
| Uncork that and discover that it is actually the spirit of generosity itself. | ||
| Take that spirit and bring it to a local charity or bail fund in your area. | ||
| That was smooth. | ||
| That wasn't bad! | ||
| Like a nice, expensive whiskey. | ||
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Smooth. | |
| You would think that by now I would at least improve slightly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, like I said, we're in the past. | ||
| We're looking at this. | ||
| This is February 16th. | ||
| We're looking at this for a reason. | ||
| And we'll get to that reason as we get through. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| But here's where we start. | ||
| Alex covering the big news of the day. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And we've got our reporters, David Knight, Joe Biggs, and a camera crew as well, now down at the scene of where Scalia reportedly died of natural causes. | ||
| An anonymous phone call said, and there'll be no investigation by any of the media or the government, and there'll be no autopsy. | ||
| They made sure to announce the next day. | ||
| Because there's nothing to see here. | ||
| Just go to sleep. | ||
| Go away. | ||
| So the big news on February 16th, 2016, was that Antonin Scalia, who Alex calls Anthony twice. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Why not? | ||
| He has passed away at the Illuminati Ranch in Texas. | ||
| So we've set up a Murder, She Wrote episode where we're going to find out who killed Antonin Scalia by the end of this. | ||
| We're going to find out something. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I will say that Alex has not. | ||
| It's not developed by this point. | ||
| The Illuminati Lodge. | ||
| Okay, that's fair. | ||
| Which I know is definitely something that got tossed around. | ||
| It's coming down the pipeline. | ||
| He believes that, obviously, murder. | ||
| Duh. | ||
| Well, of course. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| But, yeah, he's got Joe Biggs. | ||
| He's got David Knight out there on the scene. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Good team. | ||
| Here's what's going to happen, according to Alex. | ||
| They're going to replace Scalia real fast. | ||
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Okay. | |
| A First Amendment critic may get the nomination for the Supreme Court justice. | ||
| That's a Curt Nemo article. | ||
| Attorney General Loretta Lynch. | ||
| Of course, they're banning buildings named Lynch because it hurts people's feelings. | ||
| Will she change her name because it's associated with lynching? | ||
| Of course, it's not associated with lynching. | ||
| It's an Irish name, but who cares? | ||
| Attorney General Loretta Lynch or Attorney General Loretta, racist name, hang black people, hurt my feelings. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| This name means Attorney General Loretta Lynch has publicly expressed enmity towards First Amendment. | ||
| So another... | ||
| Very important story. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Yikes, Alex. | ||
| Alright, okay. | ||
| Alex, Alex. | ||
| You know how it's great whenever somebody is so racist, even attempting to be non-racist is incredibly racist. | ||
| Yeah, there's nothing racist about the name Lynch. | ||
| I had some friends who had that name growing up. | ||
| Marshawn Lynch. | ||
| John Lynch. | ||
| The term... | ||
| For, like, the extrajudicial hanging does come from that name. | ||
| Yeah, there is that! | ||
| It's named after either William or Charles Lynch, two figures of early American history who had Lynch's law. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They grew into the name, if you will. | ||
| Yeah, so it is... | ||
| I don't know a point I'm trying to make other than, like, Alex should just... | ||
| Stay away from it! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Leave it alone. | ||
| So anyway, yeah, Loretta Lynch is going to be the new Supreme Court justice, which we all now know is definitely... | ||
| It's going to be great. | ||
| Totally accurate. | ||
| It would really save him a lot of headache if she just went to the bench. | ||
| So Alex, he believes that he's been vindicated. | ||
| Immediately when Scalia died, he made some predictions about how to tell if it was murder. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it turns out Alex was right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's my job to take the heat and just to tell you what my gut and what the evidence shows and to not play games and not be a coward. | ||
| That's why I came out Saturday, hours after it was announced he was dead, did my research and said the fact that they instantly announced that he died of natural causes with a quote anonymous phone call, the fact that it's in the middle of nowhere and this owner of the ranch is a high-level Democratic donor, the fact that They are instantly saying no foul play. | ||
| There'll be no investigation. | ||
| I said, watch. | ||
| If there's no autopsy and we hear that quickly, we know there's major alarms going off. | ||
| And of course, the next morning, the judge came in on a Sunday and said there will be no autopsy. | ||
| So Alex has been proven right. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He sets the preconditions of how he will be proven right, and then he's proven right, and nothing has been proven. | ||
| It's really great whenever you set your preconditions after the preconditions have already been met, in which case it's like, yeah, see, man, I was proved right. | ||
| Or if you say something like, if there's no autopsy... | ||
| Then it's, you know, it's suspicious. | ||
| If you say that, then if there is an autopsy, you get to question the autopsy. | ||
| And if there isn't one, you get to be like, I was right, and I said that if there wasn't one, then it was definitely murder. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| If the sun rises tomorrow, oh man, it was murder. | ||
| Oh man. | ||
| It was murder. | ||
| Yeah, this is nonsense. | ||
| And, you know, there could have been an autopsy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If Antonin Scalia's family wanted one. | ||
| They could have said it at any time. | ||
| They're not required in Texas when there isn't foul play suspected, even if the person is a high-profile individual. | ||
| But if anyone who had a connection or a reason to request the autopsy, if they had wanted to, they could have. | ||
| So you're saying the family was in on it. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm pretty sure what you just told me is that the family killed Antonin Scalia. | ||
| I think Alex might be working on that by the end of the month. | ||
| I think it's been proven. | ||
| By the end of February. | ||
| If the sun rises tomorrow, I think we've definitively proved. | ||
| So we know, because we looked at 2015 quite a bit, that Alex becomes a big Trump fan by mid-December of 2015. | ||
| And into early 2016, he has jumped. | ||
| He has conveniently forgot all of the crimes that he... | ||
| You remember Trump committed just a recent bit of hell. | ||
| That's small potatoes compared to the fact that Trump is trying to talk shit about how Bush let 9-11 happen. | ||
| That'll do it. | ||
| Alex is really excited about that. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Cheney, Trump, way off base with 9-11 claims, doesn't know the facts. | ||
| And then he goes on to say, oh, it was Clinton's fault. | ||
| And Clinton admits it. | ||
| Oh, give me a break. | ||
| Of course Clinton was protecting bin Laden. | ||
| They're all owned by Saudi Arabia. | ||
| There's something really interesting that I noticed when I was listening to this, and that is that he doesn't accuse people of being owned by China like he does now. | ||
| He accuses everybody of being under the Chinese payroll. | ||
| Yeah, well now they took over for the Saudis. | ||
| That is basically how it sounds if you go back and you listen to this. | ||
| Strangely enough, that was a very peaceful transition of power. | ||
| He talks about Saudi Arabia in the same way. | ||
| I mean, definitely not the same way as he talks about China now, but in terms of who owns the globalists, who's running it. | ||
| He's like, Saudis bankroll. | ||
| They own Clinton and Bush. | ||
| I mean, obviously he's full of shit about all of that, but it does maybe point to a deeper trist, Dan. | ||
| No, I mean, not a deeper truth. | ||
| I think any time there are special interests that have undue influence on our political process, that's something that we should be careful about. | ||
| But no, I don't think there's an underlying truth to what Alex is saying. | ||
| I'm pretty sure Scalia's family is right. | ||
| I think Alex is choosing enemies based on convenience. | ||
| That could be true, Dan. | ||
| Much like Bill Gates is part of the 12, and then he's middle management, but he's also part of the ruling elite group of 12. There is that. | ||
| So Trump has come out, and he's been talking some shit about Jab, because he's in the primary against Jab. | ||
| He talks about how your brother let 9-11 happen, you stupid asshole. | ||
| Fuckers. | ||
| And Alex believes this to be expert gamesmanship. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| Trump is just laying out the facts, baiting them to come and attack him as a 9-11 truther, and then he's going to start hammering the daylights out of him. | ||
| The guy has my respect totally now and is in incredible danger. | ||
| He is incredibly bold, and he's in ten times the danger I'm in, or Ron Paul, or somebody like that. | ||
| I mean, he is incredible. | ||
| And so are people like Matt Drudge and Clarence Thomas. | ||
| So... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What happened there? | ||
| I mean, Trump didn't expose 9-11. | ||
| I don't think he did. | ||
| The way that Alex is presenting this is like, yeah, so he's talking this shit, and then they're going to call him a 9-11 truther, and then he's going to prove himself right on the grandest stage of them all. | ||
| That didn't happen. | ||
| No, none of it happened. | ||
| None of it ever happens. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Everything that they say is going to happen doesn't. | ||
| The only thing that happens is the erosion of rights for the rest of us. | ||
| So, Trump, though. | ||
| Better than Bernie. | ||
| What's interesting about this is that until fairly recently before this, Alex liked Bernie. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Because he was, like, with the Pauls. | ||
| He helped to audit the Fed. | ||
| Yeah, he was one of the only people who was interested in, like, Fed reform. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex, in the, like... | ||
| A couple years before this, a year before this, you'd say, like, you know, like, he says he's a socialist, but, you know, he's got some good stuff and he hangs out to talk to Rand Paul. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It's like, okay. | ||
| Well, he conveniently forgets all of those problems that he has. | ||
| Now he fucking hates Bernie. | ||
| Well, of course he hates Bernie. | ||
| And should tell you that Bernie did not have a job until he was 40. Alex! | ||
| He was fucking mayor when he was nine. | ||
| Shush. | ||
| He was elected mayor when he was nine years old. | ||
| Not important. | ||
| He was screaming. | ||
| Didn't have a job until he was 40. Alex conversely. | ||
| I'm sick of the 1% taking over this planet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Mic down for this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex was forced into child labor at the age of 12. Okay. | ||
| You know, Levin says a lot of good things, and I don't want to sit here and be enemies with mainline conservatives because they're a million light years better than Bernie Sanders, who it's now emerged, never had a job until he was 40. I mean, I'm 42. I had a job when I was 12. And I remember saying, there are child labor laws, Dad. | ||
| You know, I need to go get a job during the summer. | ||
| I already mowed some yards and stuff. | ||
| And he said, he goes, that's a bunch of baloney. | ||
| You go down to the local marina. | ||
| Which was a mile from our house. | ||
| We lived in a lake. | ||
| And you go ask those old guys in there and tell them, you want a job, you'll work for whatever they give you. | ||
| If you actually do the job, you'll get a raise. | ||
| And if you actually keep doing it, you'll have a job there years later and you'll be a manager. | ||
| And by the time, you know, two years had passed and I'd worked at the marina, during the summers they were actually trying to hire me to be a manager at the marina when I was like 14. A manager of some of the boat stalls and stuff, keeping them clean. | ||
| Cleaning boat stalls at 12. For an hourly wage, when you don't want to be doing that, and your dad says, bullshit, get down to the marina, clean that stuff up, and they'll give you a raise. | ||
| Man, that's illegal. | ||
| That's good stuff. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Alex's response is totally right. | ||
| There are child labor laws. | ||
| Undocumented immigrants are stealing our jobs! | ||
| The nine-year-old should be stealing our jobs! | ||
| Put him down! | ||
| But in the marina, what, is it going to be coal again? | ||
| No, that's dirty down there. | ||
| Nothing's cleaner than a marina, didn't you think about that? | ||
| Nothing's cleaner than a marina after a 12-year-old mops up. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| God, that story is not uplifting, Alex. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
| I was 12. I mowed some lawns and my dad said, fuck you, get down there and get a job. | ||
| You'll be a manager by the time you're in 7th grade. | ||
| I'm sick of the 1% exploiting us marina laborers! | ||
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We've been fighting for unionization for 20 years now! | |
| Alex was a scab at the marina. | ||
| He was a scab! | ||
| Alex was a scab! | ||
| Oh man, what a fucking loser. | ||
| So Alex, you know, like... | ||
| I would say that my sense of him is that what he does is he gets on air and he just says bullshit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because that's what I experience from listening to him, is just a guy who gets on air and says a bunch of bullshit. | ||
| I think I would agree with you, yeah. | ||
| And he's kind of like, just by instinct, a knee-jerk reaction, kind of just makes stuff up for conspiracy to benefit. | ||
| You know, during his deposition in the Sandy Hook lawsuit, he did say that he had a bit of a psychosis that he developed, where he just thought that everything was fake. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He got into that. | ||
| But he should tell you that that's not actually true. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I don't just default, come out on air, and say that something stinks. | ||
| You think I'm happy that there's about a 98% chance they killed Scalia? | ||
| You think I want to be the one that breaks it? | ||
| You think I want to be the one that runs over the top? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| The first one to go up against the machine gun nest, but I will do it. | ||
| And I'm telling you this, in case something does happen to me, I need other people to step up. | ||
| It's the only way to save your family. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That feels familiar. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If they come after me for this blockbuster Scalia news, they'll kill me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they'll come for you, random listener. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I would say that Alex absolutely needs this to be a conspiracy. | ||
| I think he would love it. | ||
| Because I will say that the idea of Antonin Scalia dying of old age or a heart condition, natural causes, Alex can't do shit with that. | ||
| No, and it's unfortunately a very reasonable thing at the time. | ||
| Yes, 100%. | ||
| And yeah, it's not like Alex's lane in terms of news and broadcasting and everything. | ||
| You know, like a tragic event, like someone dying. | ||
| You know, however you want to look at the event. | ||
| A normal, maybe sad, maybe newsworthy event that just happens? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no spin to that. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| There needs to be a villain. | ||
| There needs to be someone who you can yell about. | ||
| Scalia's family. | ||
| Someone needs to be aggrieved. | ||
| They murdered him. | ||
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| And the aggrieved is Alex. | ||
| Yeah, or else there is just no way for this to be processed by the right-wing media. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So, yes, Alex, I do think that you come on air and say bullshit, and I think you do want to. | ||
| I think it's a very lucrative thing to do. | ||
| You need to. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I would probably think much less of him. | ||
| If he didn't, just like, I mean, he's got people who have his back, who are saying the same things, who are experts. | ||
| It's all over the place. | ||
| Michael Savage says, looks like he was murdered. | ||
| Oh, what does Michael Savage know? | ||
| You know, he's just made billions of dollars in real estate and nutraceuticals and is the all-time best-selling author and pretty much launched the entire organic food movement under another name, another gnome to plume. | ||
| What does a guy with probably a 200 IQ know? | ||
| Let's not listen to him. | ||
| Let's not listen to Alex Jones, the kook. | ||
| What does any of that have to do with whether or not Michael Savage could tell from looking at his articles if Scalia was murdered? | ||
| I mean, if you've got a 200 IQ, you can solve mysteries from afar with no information, Dan. | ||
| Even assuming everything that Alex said is accurate, like, yeah, yeah, let's not listen to Michael Savage. | ||
| He likes organic food. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| You've given me a lot of qualifications and yet none of those was murder investigator. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That would have been a really good one. | ||
| If you had been like, he has a 200 IQ and also 20 years investigative experience, that's a whole different story. | ||
| Yeah, Matlock is based on, he's a lawyer. | ||
| Who's a detective? | ||
| I can't think of any detectives. | ||
| I'm telling you, murder she wrote. | ||
| Stabler. | ||
| Stabler. | ||
| Benson. | ||
| You can't think of Poirot? | ||
| Oh yeah, I could. | ||
| Alex doesn't like the Europeans. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| No Sherlock's, no none of that. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely not. | ||
| So Alex is appealing to Michael Savage, thinking that it's possibly murder. | ||
| And he's sick and tired of people thinking that he himself, Alex Jones, is a kook. | ||
| Because he has the best sources. | ||
| Alright? | ||
| Well, one of them is Michael Savage, so that's not good. | ||
| Well, yeah, but I mean... | ||
| When CBS and the Sydney Morning Herald call me a kook and a nut and, oh, he's... | ||
| Do you have contacts that eat dinner with the Supreme Court justices and that say that total tyranny's coming in 2016? | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Coming after everyone? | ||
| It's my drug. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| You don't have those contacts. | ||
| Do you talk to three former heads of Army Special Forces? | ||
| And people above that. | ||
| Do you have the former head of psychological warfare for the State Department on? | ||
| That's Steve. | ||
| That overthrew seven countries. | ||
| Do you live in the real world? | ||
| Do you have Green Beret commanders? | ||
| Delta Force people in studio on air that admire your work? | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| You don't have anything but dishonor and the fact that you're slack-jaw scum. | ||
| I think this is really fun because I can tell who almost all those people are. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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All those people are dum-dums. | |
| Those aren't real sources. | ||
| You know, what he doesn't understand is that, yes, part of the job of a journalist is cultivating sources who are near the primary people that you're talking about. | ||
| So when you say, like, oh, do you know people who eat dinner with Supreme Court justices? | ||
| Probably, if that's what they cover. | ||
| That was Matt Drudge, and Alex has said that he's only talked to Drudge that one time that he showed up at studio and gave that interview. | ||
| But he wasn't seen. | ||
| And now Matt Drudge is on the outs with the Trumpian world. | ||
| Ooh, Drudge killed Scalia. | ||
| Could have been. | ||
| That could have been. | ||
| So yeah, we got Steve in there, you got the Green Beret, I think is Matt Bracken. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's just like, who cares? | ||
| Stuff's so stupid. | ||
| All your fucking experts are idiots. | ||
| You know what's wild? | ||
| What? | ||
| No, Lou. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He should have dropped in, like, I know 300 lieutenant colonels. | ||
| I think that a lot of those military ranks and stuff that he does, like chiefs of... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that's just on the fly. | ||
| They're very fungible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're in the military, so today you're a second star general. | ||
| It's just random. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I suspect. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, Trump, Alex says that he's on a suicide mission to save America. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But, you know, he's also a little bit of an egomaniac. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| And sure, you can call him an egomaniac, and the people that have assessed him say he's a good egomaniac, and he's the type we need. | ||
| Uh, do what now? | ||
| And they just admire him so much. | ||
| These are high-level government people. | ||
| You can put two and two together, CIA, you name it. | ||
| And I mean the... | ||
| Last generation that actually overthrew governments, actually did stuff on the ground, didn't just play around with a bunch of NSA spy gear. | ||
| That's Steve again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I really don't understand why you're taking the overthrow governments as a point of pride here. | ||
| You don't... | ||
| The governments that Steve Pechenik quote-unquote helped overthrow, he liked, right? | ||
| He should be against... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| The thing that I really enjoy is going back and listening to this. | ||
| Alex is so simple. | ||
| And kind of dumb. | ||
| In the same way that characteristic phrases, epithets, are used in Homeric poetry, like the Iliad or the Odyssey, Alex does the same, like overthrows countries. | ||
| That's always Steve. | ||
| That is a signifier. | ||
| Rage-filled Pechenik. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Sing muse! | ||
| Rage-filled Pechenik, who took over countries and killed Aldo Moro. | ||
| Agamemnon! | ||
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Melania Memnon! | |
| Yeah, I think that's really fun because you can just go back and listen to this and be like, I know what you're talking about. | ||
| I know what you're doing. | ||
| Your friends are dumb. | ||
| Anyway, Alex gets to yell in here and it felt really like, this is like, spoiler alert, alright? | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| This is going to lead to an ad pivot. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But, I felt so much more like... | ||
| You know what you're doing. | ||
| This is better than present day. | ||
| The only reason I get so many of the leaks and so much of the intel, the good intel, is because people know I've been around 20 plus years. | ||
| They know where I came from. | ||
| They know who I am. | ||
| They know who my family is. | ||
| That we're as American as it gets. | ||
| We're continually committed to this country, and we will never sell out anybody. | ||
| We will never screw over little people. | ||
| We will never oppress people. | ||
| We will fight for freedom until the death, and that's it! | ||
| Now, who else is going to join us in this fight? | ||
| That's what I'm asking you right now, because this isn't a game. | ||
| We have succeeded in waking up a lot of people, but we've not yet removed the globalists, and we're far from it. | ||
| And this is a serious battle. | ||
| I want to get into the rest of the 9-11 news and back into Scalia. | ||
| I haven't even got into it yet, but... | ||
| Before I go any further, fund our operation right now. | ||
| That feels like... | ||
| That feels more like, that's Alex's wheelhouse. | ||
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Yelling about the America and the battle! | |
| It doesn't feel as... | ||
| I mean, it's gross, but somehow it doesn't feel the same gross as present-day stuff does. | ||
| Maybe it's the lack of demon. | ||
| Sure, there is no demon in this. | ||
| Satan did not specifically kill Scalia. | ||
| He is leaving it open. | ||
| That's a really good point. | ||
| He is leaving it open for human actors to have possibly done it on their own. | ||
| Yeah, there's no demonic nonsense. | ||
| There's no everything goes back to China. | ||
| The show makes more sense. | ||
| It feels more grounded in reality. | ||
| In the same way that everything is nonsense and crazy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Has made everything insane. | ||
| It's made Alex pretty insane, too. | ||
| It makes more sense in February 2016. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I just can't get the idea of Alex Jones in that drawing room murder mystery, bringing everybody, I've gathered you all here at this dinner table to eventually solve the crime with all of you. | ||
|
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With Poirot? | |
| And it was you! | ||
| If you're going Poirot, then it's, I mean, spoiler alert for the murder on the Orient Express. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex could be Poirot in that because the solution is everyone did. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| According to Alex, everyone's a globalist. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I was thinking more Nick and Nora where there's about three different red herrings until somebody just randomly pulls a gun. | ||
| We now get to why we ended up doing this episode. | ||
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Sure. | |
| This takes a little bit of the randomness away. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Larry Nichols, the big Clinton insider. | ||
| Poop. | ||
| He knows a lot of the top folks in Washington on record, and the Clintons have said even the New York Times, they're scared of Larry Nichols. | ||
| I figured I needed to talk to him to see what he knew about Scalia's death, and I don't know if he's going to get into this on air yet, but it's just over-the-top stuff, and I wish I didn't even have to know all this. | ||
| So, Larry Nichols is who Alex gets to comment and have some deep insights on the death of Antonin Scalia. | ||
| And one thing I want to make abundantly clear before we get into anything, if you listen to that clip, it's clear that Alex is referencing something Larry has told him off-air. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Alex and Larry will go out of their way to pretend that they did not talk off air, but Alex is very clearly saying that they did. | ||
| Did Scalia die on a full moon? | ||
| Because that is when witches have their greatest power. | ||
| I know this. | ||
| I know this for a truth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it only makes sense that you would call Larry Nichols. | ||
| You gotta call him. | ||
| You gotta call Larry Nichols. | ||
| So one thing that's made me really sad lately is in the present day, Larry Nichols just passed away not too long ago. | ||
| And I'm not sure if it happened on some episode that I didn't see, or maybe during his marathon at like 3 in the morning, they did a 21-gun salute to Larry. | ||
| But I haven't heard hide nor hair of, rest in peace, Larry Nichols, any kind of memorializing. | ||
| I'm sure on some weird YouTube channel that I don't know of and put on by someone I've never heard of before, someone is eulogizing him in some meaningful way. | ||
| But I know that I've touched on this a tiny bit, but I really resent it. | ||
| It really bums me out. | ||
| It does to me, too. | ||
| I was the one who texted you earlier that we have to memorialize Larry Nichols. | ||
| It feels weird to me for somebody to have such an outsized impact and to go with no fanfare. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't want to turn this into some kind of thing where we're making a joke of the fact that he passed. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I want to recognize, like... | ||
| Scalia killed him. | ||
| I want to recognize him for who he was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he mattered, goddammit. | ||
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He did! | |
| Yeah. | ||
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He did! | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, I know... | ||
| He was awful. | ||
| Look, the world as it is, obviously, is, you know, Scalia's... | ||
| Or, Nichols isn't the most famous person on the plane that went down, you know? | ||
| So I get why it's like... | ||
| If this was a slow news day, maybe somebody digs out, you know, like, here's what Larry Nichols did, here's what he ruined, you know, all that stuff, but to have nothing from people who are, like, his friends? | ||
| Yeah, like, if you were somebody who had a couple of good albums and you died the same year as Bowie and Prince, you're never going to rank in the retrospective, perhaps. | ||
| But for our show, we, like, look at Alec's stuff, and... | ||
| Larry Nichols is such a huge part of Alex's career, his history, from the 90s when the Clintons were actually in play, when Bill was president, and through the times of our listening to it, like the 2015 period, where Larry's talking about witches. | ||
| And some of the most memorable things on our show have come from... | ||
| I'm actually very sentimental about it. | ||
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Do I look like a duck? | |
| Because our very first t-shirt was called Larry Nichols. | ||
| The note. | ||
| Referencing the Wayne Madsen story. | ||
| It's been part of our mythology since damn near the beginning. | ||
| Yeah, and some of the things that have been the most funny have been things like when Larry threatened to blackmail Robert Mueller. | ||
| Yeah, Larry goes into our Hall of Fame all-time big swings guy. | ||
| He'll pull out a big swing. | ||
| Obama wants to crash the entire world so he can be king, because if you're the president, when everything goes down, you become king, and everybody who's in Congress becomes dukes and duchesses. | ||
| In the secret constitution. | ||
| Oh man, just hard rice, soft rice. | ||
| Like listening to Larry Nichols lie to my face about hard rice and soft rice. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
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Adam Schiff goes to Egyptian themed sex parties. | |
| We dance around pyramids. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah, yeah! | ||
| Big swing. | ||
| He brought a lot of joy in terms of being somebody who's so desperate, so craven, such a real shithead, and sort of transparent liar that it was pretty easy to mock a lot of the things that... | ||
| But like you're saying, it's a result of the big swing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And... | ||
| You know, I will miss that. | ||
| Although, there are plenty of episodes from the past we could go into if you need to. | ||
| But I wanted to check in on... | ||
| One of the times that we hadn't heard that Alex called in Larry to come up with a big story for a big story. | ||
| And, you know, Scalia's dead, and I don't know, maybe Alex couldn't get a hold of Steve. | ||
| This is a sad episode. | ||
| We got dead Scalia, we got Larry Nichols' memorial. | ||
| How's Don de Grand Prix doing? | ||
| Bad news. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Yeah, sorry. | ||
| So earlier in the episode, Alex had said that it was a 98% chance that Scalia was dead. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Alex is going to downgrade that just a tiny bit. | ||
| Then our reporters from the ground in Southwest Texas on a dangerous mission to get out there and investigate the death of Scalia. | ||
| I've talked to some of the establishment folks and that is people big in the media who were at the establishment level and they are concerned. | ||
| Obviously, and folks see this for what it is, it's about a 98% chance, 97% chance he was killed. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Thank you for being more specific there. | ||
| Alex Jones is a master of lowering the stakes. | ||
| What is that 1% difference? | ||
| Well, it went down because establishment journalists are only afraid, Dan. | ||
| They didn't confirm it. | ||
| 98% chance. | ||
| Let me be clear. | ||
| 97% chance. | ||
| Look, I rounded up from 97% to 98%, as we all normally do. | ||
| Why split it? | ||
| That was imprecise. | ||
| Imprecise. | ||
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| I like it, but it's dumb. | ||
| So Alex plays a little bit of George Strait coming out of commercial. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And, you know, I think he and I both like this. | ||
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Amarillo by morning. | |
| Lose on my mind. | ||
| Lose on my mind. | ||
| All right, that's George Strait bringing us in with an oldie but a goodie. | ||
| Amarillo by morning. | ||
| Up from San Antonio. | ||
| And we are joined for the next 30 minutes by Larry Nichols. | ||
| Boy, that is just two different shows right there. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Coming in from breaking some jokes. | ||
| That's just so... | ||
| He's just in the wrong job. | ||
| Got traffic on the twos. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Just fucking... | ||
| That was great. | ||
| Just roll with that. | ||
| Just keep going. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a guy coming in for a talk show that's just boring and nothing's going on at the beginning. | ||
| And then we're going to talk to Larry Nichols for a half hour. | ||
| Different show. | ||
| We're coming back from a little George Strait right now. | ||
| Traffic on the 94 with the Kennedy is moving a little bit slowly. | ||
| But other than that, now we've got noted conspiracy theorist and wacko Larry Nichols. | ||
| Come on in here. | ||
| So you might be asking yourself, what exactly does Larry bring to the table now that the Supreme Court justice has passed away? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| What does he know? | ||
| What is the topic? | ||
| What are we going to be talking about? | ||
| He's a tough old egg. | ||
| And he joins us on Clarence. | ||
| Thomas, you know, is he in danger? | ||
| And I'm just going to leave it at that, see what he has to say about it, and how that ties into the Scalia situation. | ||
| Now, here's the game that's being played. | ||
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| They are insisting that Clarence Thomas told Larry Nichols some inside baseball information. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Confirm or reveal that he talks to Clarence Thomas. | ||
| And Alex can't give up the game, but he also knows that it's probably bullshit, and he wants Larry just to say it. | ||
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It's totally bullshit. | |
| What is Clarence down? | ||
| What's Thomas doing talking to Larry Nichols? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the game that they're playing is that both of them need the audience to believe all this information is coming from Clarence Thomas, but they can't attribute it to him. | ||
| Wow, they can't say that Clarence Thomas said it. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So it's a limitation in terms of how they could present things. | ||
| And Alex, I think, actually gets a little bit frustrated with it. | ||
| Well, yeah, of course he does. | ||
| Because it's dumb. | ||
| He's not used to dancing around like an idiot like this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Larry wants to be... | ||
| You know, this time yesterday, Alex, I had not talked to anyone, and I was cautioning everyone. | ||
| Everyone, be careful. | ||
| You know, true definition of a patriot. | ||
| I believe Alex is one that seeks out the truth. | ||
| And I wanted to be certain of the truth before I did the program with you or anybody else about Scalia. | ||
| Unfortunately, just about an hour ago, some of the information I'm getting... | ||
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Bullshit. | |
| I mean, I'm just going to be honest, guys. | ||
| This thing's starting to wreak out of heaven. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying, Alex, I have any proof. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Don't do the interview, then! | ||
| Now, a patriot is somebody who's interested in the truth, and I didn't want to come on your show before I knew the truth. | ||
| An hour ago, Clarence Thomas called me. | ||
| This thing stinks. | ||
| I have no proof. | ||
| I don't know anything about the truth. | ||
| I have no proof of the truth. | ||
| I don't know what the truth is here. | ||
| But I'm seeking it out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm a patriot. | ||
| It doesn't matter if I'm right or not. | ||
| Do you notice it doesn't matter if you get the truth? | ||
| You just seek it out? | ||
| I'm going to do everything in my power to present this as a Clinton murder. | ||
| But I'm also going to really stress to you that I can't prove shit. | ||
| I can't prove any of it. | ||
| I can't prove any of this. | ||
| Don't you fucking dare tell your audience that Clarence Thomas told me this. | ||
| Do not hold my feet to the fire on this. | ||
| It's just this dance of Clinton's did it, but also I refuse to be definitive. | ||
| Are you a military specialist on CNN? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| We're in a situation with Scalia to where this thing's burning out of control. | ||
| Now, who did it? | ||
| Why did they do it? | ||
| If it was done, all I can tell you, Alex, is usually when it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's going to be a duck. | ||
| And I'm afraid that's where we're headed. | ||
| But let's not forget one thing. | ||
| There are two important things. | ||
| That are going to affect the future of this nation forever. | ||
| So I only need to remember one of them? | ||
| That's the election for the presidency, and now the appointment of the Supreme Court justice. | ||
| Oh, I forgot the last one. | ||
| So you tell me, what does it look like to you? | ||
| Ducks. | ||
| Is it ducks? | ||
| So we have, I don't know the who, I don't know the what happened, I don't know if it happened, but if it looks like a duck. | ||
| Probably a duck. | ||
| What if what looks like a duck? | ||
| Darkwing. | ||
| I don't know who, what, or if. | ||
| But if it looks like a duck. | ||
| I don't know anything. | ||
| But it was murder. | ||
| This is irresponsible. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like it because he has no bones about it. | ||
| Just like everybody else pretends they have any proof for it and he's just like, I don't know what's going on. | ||
| I don't know why it's going on. | ||
| Probably murder. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| It's probably an Arkanside, of course, which is the term that is thrown around for the absolutely proven definitive. | ||
| 100% proven. | ||
| Hillary Clinton is one of the most prolific serial killers. | ||
| She is killed, and she will kill again. | ||
| Maybe a thousand people. | ||
| Her podcast is just recordings of the murder she's committed. | ||
| Remember what we used to do, Alex, with the old Clinton days with the Arkansides, as we called them in the day? | ||
| There was one thing you always did. | ||
| You had to commit a suicide that was impossible or die a death that was virtually impossible. | ||
| But at the same time, who was the only person that benefited? | ||
| T-bono. | ||
| Now, look at this case. | ||
| Who are the only people that benefit from Scalia dying at this opportune moment? | ||
| Who? | ||
| And I'm telling you, it's starting to look bad. | ||
| Starting to look bad for the home team. | ||
| So, even if you just take Larry based on that clip, his standard for this being an Arkenside fails to be met. | ||
| He says that it has to be like an impossible suicide, which it wasn't. | ||
| So, that classic feature of the Clinton murders? | ||
| Not present. | ||
| Well. | ||
| Then there's the question of who stands to gain, or, to quote Alex, Quibono. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| Smart guy. | ||
| One would naturally think that the Dems are the qui who stand to bono, since a conservative justice is dead and Obama's president so he can replace Scalia with a progressive judge. | ||
| Oh, those idiots. | ||
| If that were the plan, then looking back, I would have to conclude that no one was interested in following through with it. | ||
| That does seem right. | ||
| If there was some kind of a conspiracy that involved the murder of a Supreme Court justice, which pays off with the appointment of a new, more liberal justice, it kind of doesn't make much sense for the group to be powerful enough to pull off the... | ||
| And then completely fuck up the easy, almost procedural part. | ||
| Almost insanely easy part, as we are now discovering. | ||
| What possible explanation could there be for this group to have gone through with the killing of Scalia? | ||
| Then, when it's time to replace him, it turns into a congressional standoff. | ||
| The explanation can't be that the GOP opposed the globalists, because at this point, they're still very much anti-Trump cretins. | ||
| At the time of this episode, the GOP primary is still ongoing, with Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, and Jeb Bush all still having active campaigns. | ||
| Carly Fiorina and Chris Christie had dropped out of the race within a week from this recording. | ||
| The GOP had not yet bent over backwards entirely to Trump, and there was a large contingent who thought Ted Cruz had a chance after his win in the Iowa caucus and a competitive showing on Super Tuesday, which actually hadn't even happened by the time of this recording. | ||
| What I'm getting at is that at this point, the GOP is still the blue-blood, never-Trump Republican Party that Alex thinks is in league with the globalists. | ||
| Mitch McConnell, who spearheaded the blockage of Obama's Supreme Court nomination process, wouldn't even endorse Trump until May, any Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| June he was quoted in the New York Times as being open to rescinding that endorsement of course if there was anything to the globalist conspiracy to kill Scalia and replace him then based on the political alignments that Alex has established there's literally no reason why McConnell and the GOP should be getting in the way of that plan there's a Yeah. | ||
| So in this case, no one wins. | ||
| Yeah, there's a part of me that wants to respect Mitch McConnell for pulling off one of the most blatantly bullshit things that's ever happened. | ||
| But the more I think about it, the more I realize... | ||
| Like, all he did was make up some bullshit and got people to believe it. | ||
| He was playing against an opponent who thought there were rules because things do work better when there are rules. | ||
| Yeah, but those weren't part of the rules. | ||
| They are just willing to accept rules that are made up for them to deal with. | ||
| It's very pathetic. | ||
| I'm more disappointed with the people who continually allow Mitch McConnell to fleece them. | ||
| His transparent bullshit is insane. | ||
| Yeah, it is unfortunate when people just continue to take something like that seriously. | ||
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Constantly. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, hey, look, there's some elements of Scalia's death that maybe could be taken as a message. | ||
| Well, his family killed him. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But there was a pillow. | ||
| Because he died in bed. | ||
| Okay, yes. | ||
| There was a pillow. | ||
| There was a pillow. | ||
| And immediately it was reported that it was on his face. | ||
| But that is not accurate. | ||
| It was just sort of like on his head because he was laying in bed. | ||
| Because he was laying on a pillow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But this is a message. | ||
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Okay. | |
| The pillow's on the face. | ||
| Is that a message to everybody, though, that is awake? | ||
| I think they're trying to let us know. | ||
| I think they're trying to let someone know, Alex, and I'm afraid that someone may be Donald Trump, that someone may be the other judges on the court. | ||
| Judges you talk to? | ||
| Yes, that... | ||
| You know, we can get to anybody. | ||
| Just fucking say Clarence Thomas already. | ||
|
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Just stop dancing around this. | |
| It's so dumb. | ||
| I like the idea that if there was a pillow on his face, it was an obtuse message to people who are awake. | ||
| Because if you're awake... | ||
| They'll put the pillow on your face. | ||
| If the pillow's under your head, then you're fine. | ||
|
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No, no, no, no. | |
| It's a message to Trump and Clarence Thomas that we can get to you if you go to an Illuminati lodge in the middle of Texas or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, Larry's safe because he's at home and he's got a big old knife with which to fight off the Clintons, I guess. | ||
| Every time the Clintons get near power, people are gonna die. | ||
| People are going to die. | ||
| This is not the first, and this won't be the last. | ||
| You know, it's Alex back here behind me, buddy. | ||
| I got old Betsy, my little 18-inch buoy that I keep with me, even here at the house, because I'm telling you, these people play rough. | ||
| Am I saying Hillary ordered him dead? | ||
| No. | ||
| Am I saying somebody actually whacked him? | ||
| No. | ||
| But from everything I see, somebody's sending somebody. | ||
| A message. | ||
| What the fuck are you saying? | ||
| Am I saying it was a hint? | ||
| No. | ||
| But I am saying it was a message. | ||
| Slippery asshole. | ||
| Did it happen? | ||
| I don't even know. | ||
| Is Scalia dead? | ||
| Not important. | ||
| I can't prove it. | ||
| But I can tell you. | ||
| However, it smells fishy. | ||
| And it's a message. | ||
| It's a message to someone. | ||
| I don't know who. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this next clip starts with Larry. | ||
| I'm just going to diffuse this. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Okay. | ||
| He talks. | ||
| Oh, also. | ||
| I want to touch on that last clip really fast before we move on. | ||
| I can't imagine a scenario where an old man in poor health with an 18-inch knife could fight off whatever the Clintons are going to bring. | ||
| I mean, I assume we're in a place now where I'm assuming they think that Hillary does it. | ||
| Personally. | ||
| It must be. | ||
| She goes there, she's wearing a balaclava, and then covered head to toe in one of those plastic things so she can't leave any fucking shit behind. | ||
| I had a really good idea for a product. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Baklava balaclava. | ||
| It's a balaclava in the shape of a... | ||
| But it just looks like baklava. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Oh, so it's a baklava. | ||
| Wait, it's a balaclava that looks like a baklava? | ||
| It's a mask, but it looks like baklava. | ||
| It's a pattern of flaky dough. | ||
| I thought it was baklava in the shape of a mask. | ||
| Someone's made this. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Anyway, diffusing this, Larry starts this next clip talking about how butts are puckered with fear. | ||
| And then, mic down for this, because everything goes very ominously. | ||
| But there are a lot of people, their butts are puckered like mine right now, and as a matter of fact, I'm gonna walk to my door, because right out my door, I know, but you told me 20 minutes ago, I can't stand this. | ||
| I can't stand hearing this stuff and not be able to talk about it. | ||
|
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Alex doesn't believe that for a second. | |
| Zero! | ||
| Zero! | ||
| If that were true, even if he thought it was even a little bit possible, it would have been like, oh, who do you think it could be? | ||
| Not even that. | ||
| I heard what you said. | ||
| I'm sick of it. | ||
| Larry's got a van outside. | ||
| You heard him not move. | ||
| You heard him still sitting down while he said, I'm going to head over to the door. | ||
| Well, I actually am really certain that there's not anything going on outside his house for a reason that I'll make clear in a little bit. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| But yeah, so there's a van out there. | ||
| There he goes, allegedly. | ||
| He goes and looks out there, and then the van disappears. | ||
| I would argue he audibly continues to sit. | ||
| Do you understand? | ||
| But the van, it saw Larry coming, and then it went away. | ||
| And then, it turns out, the van makes a reappearance later. | ||
| Saturday morning, and I've only done this like four other times, I called up Dew and my key managers, and I said, get to the office now. | ||
| Hell's about to break loose. | ||
| And we were all here for seven hours, and the last two, it had already broken. | ||
| We didn't even know, because I was in my conference room. | ||
| And I was actually live streaming, saying something big's about to happen. | ||
| I didn't even know this had happened yet. | ||
| Is the SUV back? | ||
| That's alright. | ||
| There. | ||
| Let them sit there. | ||
| I mean, as long as you're sitting there... | ||
| And I'm sitting here. | ||
| I'm not that worried. | ||
| Thank God you got that 18-inch knife. | ||
| They're sitting there, and I'm sitting here. | ||
| I'm not worried. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I thought your butt was very puckered right now. | ||
| Well, no, that was just general. | ||
| That wasn't about the van. | ||
| That was a general pucker. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Okay, I gotcha. | ||
| And a lot of people have it because of the death of a Supreme Court justice. | ||
| Naturally, yeah, of course. | ||
| So Larry quickly makes this van appearing have to do with the fact that he got a call from Clarence Thomas. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| An hour before this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Tell me what it is I just found out an hour, hour and a half ago that makes people be in my yard this quick. | ||
| Tell me. | ||
| Well, you told us, and I just wish you'd tell everybody else right now. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I would if I could. | ||
| I just can't. | ||
| I just can't because who it was. | ||
| No, I get it, but now we know in case they kill you right now, I get it. | ||
|
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And... | |
| It's big. | ||
| That's all I can tell you, folks. | ||
| It's big. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| And you didn't give me the specifics. | ||
| But you're talking to Supreme Court justices. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They didn't even bother to cover this up in any reasonable manner. | ||
| I mean, don't you see that, folks? | ||
| They didn't even bother to hide it. | ||
| I mean, this is in your face, Alex. | ||
| So it is a murder, and you do know that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What is the point? | ||
| What is the story? | ||
| Everything. | ||
| What do you think the story is? | ||
| You pick. | ||
| You know what I like about this? | ||
| I like that Alex is like, Larry, you told us what happened in case the people of that black van kill you. | ||
| They're very stoic. | ||
| He's exhausted with the idea of trying to keep this going. | ||
| In case they kill you right now, Larry. | ||
| In case they kill you. | ||
| Those guys who are outside your house right now kill you. | ||
| Those totally real guys who are definitely 100% outside of your house. | ||
| Very bored with this attempt at radio theater. | ||
| That's War of the Worlds, but he's just like, oh, there are aliens outside my door. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Sure there are. | ||
| Hey, as long as those aliens are out there and I'm in here, I'm fine. | ||
| And I got an 18-inch knife that I call Betsy. | ||
| So, you know, I mean, I have to eat my hat. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| Because there's some proof. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Larry Nichols is with us for holding him over. | ||
| He did on his cell phone get a photo of the black SUV in his rural home. | ||
| That is backing into his drive, and then he's up there on a hill pulling out when he comes back out. | ||
| But he was able to get a photo, and your Skype's pretty clear. | ||
| Larry, try to hold the photo part, the screen, up as close as you can in front of your face, and then forward towards the camera. | ||
| All right, I'm trying to find it again. | ||
| You just took it! | ||
| You lying piece of shit! | ||
| You supposedly just took it! | ||
| You liar! | ||
| I know you're not super technical. | ||
| Believe me, I'm not. | ||
| You're a fucking liar! | ||
| I don't know what I've done with it. | ||
|
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I was holding it up and showing it. | |
| Shit. | ||
| Delete that. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
|
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Where's the picture of this man? | |
| You just fucking took it. | ||
| At the video of this... | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| This show is so hilarious. | ||
| Because if you watch it, it's like Alex... | ||
| Clearly frustrated in studio. | ||
| And then the video is Larry sitting in his living room holding a flip phone up to his laptop. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| What are we fucking doing? | ||
| This is so funny. | ||
| So Larry can't figure it out. | ||
| And this gets to be a problem. | ||
| Because, I mean, obviously, even Larry and Alex realize no one believes us. | ||
| No one buys this bullshit. | ||
| We need some proof. | ||
| Is the SUV still there? | ||
| Okay, get up, get up. | ||
| They backed up and they moved further down. | ||
| I'm going to take another picture if you can hold. | ||
| Hold one second. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Go out there. | ||
| We're going to stay with you. | ||
| Dead air. | ||
| Dead air. | ||
| I know we'll try to drive off. | ||
| Believe me, I've known this guy for 20 years, folks. | ||
| He's not BSing. | ||
| He only BSes. | ||
| That's his job. | ||
| You wouldn't need to say that if I wasn't already convinced that he was only being full of shit. | ||
| If you notice, Larry's dog barks. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And what that tells you is that the dog wasn't barking earlier. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| There was a van there. | ||
| People were out. | ||
| It was very threatening. | ||
| The dog had no interest. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Yeah, something doesn't... | ||
| Hey, to quote Larry's feelings about Scalia's death, something stinks here. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Something suspicious. | ||
| Let me search back through my pictures to find that picture I supposedly just took right now. | ||
| I'm not going to come down on it too hard for that because it is a flip phone, and those things were really difficult to navigate. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| He does have a flip phone. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| Not before the iPhone, but before Larry had an iPhone. | ||
| And so... | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| He was still using a Motorola at the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they do eventually flash up what's supposed to be a picture of the van in front. | ||
| But I mean, it's like on a flip phone, on a video screen. | ||
|
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Definitive. | |
| You can't tell anything. | ||
| Definitive proof. | ||
| No. | ||
| I can see the plates in my mind's eye. | ||
| Even if it was the clearest picture ever of someone in a van with a gun, I still don't think that's proof. | ||
| I don't buy it. | ||
| There's getting images in the bottom right corner. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Alex is like, I wish I was there. | ||
| I wish I was there to protect you and confront that van. | ||
| Oh, I wish I was there right now. | ||
| Do you have any family that's home right now? | ||
| No, just me. | ||
| Me and you. | ||
| Me and you and the dogs. | ||
| And your bulldog and the millions watching and listening. | ||
| Man, I tell you. | ||
| Well, let's put his address out for folks that are in Arkansas right now, folks. | ||
| He gives his address out. | ||
| He's at Kingsington Drive. | ||
| Alex tells, like, truckers who are in the area to show up at Larry's house. | ||
| Save Larry from this van! | ||
| This is insane! | ||
| No one buys this bullshit in the first place! | ||
| No, Alex doesn't either! | ||
| No, of course he doesn't! | ||
| Let's see if people around will stop by your house, I guess. | ||
| I wish I was there, Larry. | ||
| I have to act like I care. | ||
| And if Alex sincerely believes that Larry's life is in danger because he's talked to Clarence Thomas, who has told Larry that it's a murder, and now there's a black van outside Larry's house that's going to kill him, We should not stop the interview for anything. | ||
| The only thing that's protected Larry's life is the fact that he's alive. | ||
| All right, Larry. | ||
| We're going to let you go. | ||
| Hope you survive, buddy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We'll see you later. | ||
| We've got to check in with the weirdos at a Trump rally. | ||
| I've got to take some calls, Larry. | ||
| Hope you survive this one. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| But the van, much like the pillow, is a message. | ||
| Who is it? | ||
| I wonder what it's just all about. | ||
| You know, here again, they're sending a message to somebody. | ||
| Who knows, Alex, maybe it's you. | ||
| Have you looked outside your building? | ||
| Oh, we're not really worried about it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You know... | ||
| Linf do stack? | ||
| This is like... | ||
| Larry, you're full of shit and I'm not worried. | ||
| Larry, come on, buddy. | ||
| The game's up. | ||
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This is the most incompetent kind of radio theater. | |
| There's no drama here. | ||
| Game is up, Larry. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| We failed. | ||
| You know what sucks, too? | ||
| I think if Alex were more of a giving partner, I think that they could make this work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that if Alex were acting actually concerned or scared or anything like that, he could really heighten this into being something that, like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think Larry is the reason that we're not getting anything good out of this. | ||
| Because Larry's just coming with too big a swing with the van and the lies. | ||
| No, it's perfect. | ||
| No, okay. | ||
| I disagree with you. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| If you're trying to be like, I got secret information. | ||
| Of course there would be a van outside. | ||
| Well, yeah, there has to be. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It's archetypical. | ||
| It's, uh, you know. | ||
| Yeah, but see, that's where we get back to the, I don't know who did it, I don't know what happened, and I don't know if it even happened at all. | ||
| That's not what's gonna get you killed, man. | ||
| But that's what you say in hour one. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The plan is to basically treat this like a hostage situation where you have taken Alex's show hostage. | ||
| If there's a van that's going to kill you outside, you have to stay on air in order to stay alive. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Hour three, that's when you bring in the- Hold on. | ||
| I was just saying that to stay alive. | ||
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All right. | |
| I was just saying I didn't know what was going on to stay alive back at the beginning of the show. | ||
| I see a sequel to Stockholm Syndrome on this one right here. | ||
| Did they make a third speed movie? | ||
| You have to keep your bullshit flying at less than 40 miles an hour, otherwise they get you. | ||
| I hate to say this, because it seems kind of like, I don't know, disrespectful to people's reality, but this isn't real. | ||
| I could have written this way better. | ||
|
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Totally. | |
| If I were a producer at InfoWars, I could have been like, guys, this is just one tweak away from being interesting. | ||
| As it is, you guys are just embarrassing the shit out of yourselves. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta sell it. | ||
| You gotta sell it. | ||
| They're not selling it. | ||
| Because the stakes should be enormous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you're presenting this as Larry has really, really super deep, important information that he's gotten from Clarence Thomas, but we can't say it's Clarence Thomas, then you have a responsibility to give something. | ||
| And I'll tell you what that thing should not be. | ||
| Just the fake van. | ||
| The fake van is... | ||
| Not gonna do it. | ||
| But it's important. | ||
| It is important. | ||
| It's important as a looming threat. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You need your A story to be strong. | ||
| And then the van is a great B story. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| It's a great side protagonist. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Or antagonist, excuse me. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But you need your main plot to be a little bit more thought out than this. | ||
| You need the actors, Alex and Larry, to be a little bit more invested. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You need them, like Alex seems to just be poo-pooing almost the entirety of this. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's really transparently bad. | ||
| He seems to be looking at Larry like we do. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| There is that, but that's, I think, again, that's Larry's fault. | ||
| He's, instead of the who, what, if, alright, you gotta at least give me if. | ||
| You know, like, he's not even willing to commit to it was a murder other than being like... | ||
| It looks like a murder. | ||
| Alex needs you to give him something in order to get excited. | ||
| What could the consequences possibly be for Larry fucking Nichols? | ||
| Just say Clarence Thomas said that his family killed him. | ||
| That'd be fine. | ||
| Clarence Thomas found the body. | ||
| Because it's not you saying it. | ||
| It's you saying that Clarence Thomas said it, which is obviously... | ||
| In court, they're like, oh, this is libel or something. | ||
| And it's Larry Nichols saying Clarence Thomas said that his family killed him. | ||
| What are you going to call this libel? | ||
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Why? | |
| What are we doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Public figures. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing here? | ||
| And I would say, I don't believe that there's an actual relationship between Clarence Thomas and Larry Nichols that needs to be protected. | ||
| Clarence won't talk to me anymore. | ||
| Just the absurdity of Clarence Thomas giving Larry Nichols a call. | ||
| Just by itself. | ||
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Wild. | |
| Boggles my mind. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Are they catching up? | ||
| So, I know that we make fun of the idea that, you know, if you're president, when shit goes down, you become king. | ||
| If you're in Congress, you become a duke or a duchess. | ||
| That is something we make fun of, yeah. | ||
| Larry says it a lot. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| This election will be the last presidential election we'll get to be a part of, Alex. | ||
| That actually made me a little bit sad, because it is true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That Larry did not make it to the 2020 election. | ||
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That's true. | |
| He was correct in that that was the last election he got to take part in. | ||
|
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That's true. | |
| I'm sorry, Larry. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And I want to tell you something, folks. | ||
| We've never had more power than we have right now. | ||
| Because every one of the politicians that are running for office, remember a third of the Senate's having to run. | ||
| Every member of Congress is having to run. | ||
| And they know this country's about to come down. | ||
| They know it's about to come down. | ||
| And they want to be there, Alex. | ||
| When this country falls, they want to be a part of the centrist government that's left over. | ||
| And they know if they're defeated this election, they're out forever. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| And then they can be prosecuted, so they're cornered rats. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, and also the 2018 midterms didn't happen. | ||
| No, they didn't. | ||
| So new other people got in who weren't around in the 2016 election. | ||
| Yeah, but they ran on Make Me Your Duke. | ||
| Those were most of the campaigns that I heard. | ||
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Duke. | |
| Duke, Duke of Chicago. | ||
| Dan is the Duke. | ||
| I don't want Dick Durbin to be my Duke. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Duke, Dick Durbin? | ||
| That's annoying. | ||
| That's the only reason. | ||
| He's a fairly good senator, but I can't do Duke Durbin. | ||
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We'll walk through my dukedom. | |
| Yeah, silly. | ||
| Silly nonsense. | ||
| So, Hillary Clinton, she's gonna run. | ||
| She is running. | ||
| And I actually was listening to this and I thought how funny it would be if, like, Larry passes away and then Hillary Clinton does run. | ||
| Does secretly wind up sneaking her way into the president. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| I needed a nickels! | ||
| How tragic that would be. | ||
| That would be sad. | ||
| So anyway, she's got to win in 2016 or else there will be staggering consequences for her. | ||
| Well, he wasn't wrong. | ||
| You understand, Alex. | ||
| It's win or lose for her. | ||
| Either she gets to be what she's wanted to be since she was four years old. | ||
| The first female president of the United States of America and then the most powerful couple in the history of the world. | ||
| Either they get that or she goes to jail. | ||
| It's not a joke. | ||
| It's not a game. | ||
| You think this is a game? | ||
| I think if you look at some of the decisions being looked at by the Supreme Court, I think you see who benefits by Scalia dying. | ||
| So you're saying it was Hillary. | ||
| Yes, I'm pretty sure he's saying it was Hillary. | ||
| Clarence Thomas called him an hour before this show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And said that Hillary killed Scalia. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That sounds true. | ||
| That's the sense that you probably would get if you were an Alex Jones listener and you were listening to this complete nothing that they're doing. | ||
| Because they're not giving any information, just all this nutty insinuation. | ||
| It's not even really speculation. | ||
| It's not even analyzing any of the information involved. | ||
| It's literally just saying, I think it looks bad. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| I don't know how. | ||
| It's creating a narrative and then also... | ||
| Constantly saying, like, I don't know shit. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| This is pointless. | ||
| This is annoyingly pointless. | ||
| It is, but it is, you know, I always enjoy it when you listen to a podcast and maybe one of the hosts has learned something new. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, and it's like, mind blown kind of thing. | ||
| Larry has just learned something. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex, I didn't know about this until this weekend. | ||
| Did y 'all know that since 2012, Obama signed a presidential special order? | ||
| And 100 miles on either side of our border to the north to Canada, 100 miles either side south to Mexico, east to the Atlantic Ocean, west to the Pacific, 100 miles inland is considered or called what's called a no-constitution zone. | ||
| That's official. | ||
| They actually call it it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, do you know that? | ||
| Can you make no constitution zones? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| I think the constitution would expressly prohibit that. | ||
| 200 miles from the border is the no flex zone. | ||
| Right, that's true, that's true. | ||
| You're not wrong. | ||
| So, no, I mean, this is kind of a real thing, although it's not, like, I mean, it's not the same as what they're saying. | ||
| Well, isn't Woody talking about the DHS's ability to operate even though they're a federal agency? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They have an exemption for search. | ||
| Within 100 miles of the border, which is justified by a reasonable distance from the borders of customs and immigration, have that kind of leeway. | ||
| Which worked out great for us. | ||
| Thanks, Obama. | ||
| I'm sure that's never going to be abused by some other administration that comes in immediately after. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| You're buying into Larry's bullshit. | ||
| Obama didn't do that. | ||
| Oh, he didn't? | ||
| No, he didn't create that. | ||
| You can find an article from Wired from 2008 about how the ACLU was fighting to curb the use of this as a police search tool. | ||
| And it predates Obama's time in office. | ||
| It's something that's always existed as an exemption for border searches. | ||
| And it was codified into law in 1976. | ||
| But after 9-11, the definitions of what specific area Sure, sure. | ||
| It's a real issue. | ||
| It absolutely is. | ||
| And it's something that someone who Alex pretends to be, this figure in the space that he likes to fancy himself, should be talking about and pointing out. | ||
| But it's just... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nothing means anything. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm so exhausted. | ||
| No, and the thing that's particularly exhausting about that is the, like, okay, what you're talking about, we could both be opposed to for completely different reasons. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Me and Larry Nichols could both be against this hundred-mile, quote-unquote, no-constitution zone. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But we should never be able to work together on the issue because we actually don't agree. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, the thing about that, though, is even if we come to it from different perspectives, that does mean that we could just stop it. | ||
| You know, like we could just stop doing it. | ||
| That's the thing that boggles my mind all too often with this stuff is like, yeah, Larry, let's fucking get rid of that 100 miles bullshit. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| So let's all just do that shit. | ||
| But it never, like, it's just one of those political inertia things where it's just like, ah, it seems like too much work. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Anyway, we have one last clip here from the 16th, and it's Alex fixing the issue that is Larry will be killed by these people in that van if they hang up. | ||
| Who will Larry Nichols call? | ||
| What's going to be on Larry Nichols' note? | ||
| Call me. | ||
| Stay in contact. | ||
| We're going to have us on speed dial. | ||
| We're going to keep the Skype connected, and we're not going to let them know when it's getting turned off by my friend, and we're going to stay in contact, and you'll be back with us tonight the minute... | ||
| You have the info. | ||
| Let us know. | ||
| We'll tape it for the nightly news. | ||
| We'll get it out instantly because, yeah, they've got their operatives and other people, their wind-ups that they've actually got lined up here in town. | ||
| And believe me, we've got some of the same issues you've got. | ||
| But it'll take them a while to activate those people. | ||
| But just keep it up and God bless you. | ||
| And as, you know, folks, I still got a... | ||
| Yeah, you've come home for 20 years and never asked for help, but you're broken and fighting cancer. | ||
| Nichols live at AOL. | ||
| You got bigger issues, man. | ||
| You got a van out in front of your house. | ||
| You can't... | ||
| Hey, man. | ||
| That makes me a little sad. | ||
| Just because I'm five minutes away from death doesn't mean I still can't plan for the future. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| So, he's not on the nightly news on the evening of February 16th. | ||
| And the next time that Larry's name shows up in the episode descriptions for Alex's show is the 24th. | ||
| And this is the next time that Larry was on, and I wanted to know what the fuck Clarence Thomas told him. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Because I listened to that whole thing, and there was nothing. | ||
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Nothing. | |
| There was just a van. | ||
| No, nothing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Going to our guest, Larry Nichols, Clinton Insider, doesn't need any introduction. | ||
| I've been interviewing him for 20 years, but on air 21 years. | ||
| And he's the consummate Clinton Insider, the Clinton Chronicles, all of it couldn't have been done without him. | ||
| So Larry's on. | ||
| Let's talk about it. | ||
| Let's talk about this information. | ||
| Now, I know early on in the Clinton administration, they tried to destroy certain people that were being nominated to the Supreme Court. | ||
| That's when Nichols got to know them. | ||
| And Nichols became an early source on the Internet for a lot of folks out there. | ||
| And he's battling cancer right now and obviously needs your prayers. | ||
| That's another issue, but one reason he hadn't been homeless the last few days. | ||
| Also, it took him a few days to get back in touch with this person. | ||
| Okay, so Clarence Thomas is tough to get a hold of. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| I imagine he's busy being a Supreme Court justice and not asking any questions and, in general, trying to destroy the world. | ||
| Yeah, so, I mean, hey, his first appearance was February 16th. | ||
| We're now at the 24th. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, we're a good eight days later. | ||
| Larry has... | ||
| Gotten back in touch with Justice Thomas, who they refuse to just be upfront about. | ||
| No, hey, no. | ||
| It could be any Supreme Court justice. | ||
| Any of them. | ||
| Any one of them. | ||
| It could be Roberts. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| So they needed Larry to come back on. | ||
| Alex did. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Because the audience, naturally, and I completely agree with the audience's reaction based on my listening to the 16th episode. | ||
| What the fuck is he talking about? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| We need to know the information. | ||
| Please. | ||
| Hope you're taking care of yourself. | ||
| Thank you for coming on with us. | ||
| Obviously, people have been calling, emailing, tweeting. | ||
| Alex, where's Larry Nichols? | ||
| When are you going to tell us what the Supreme Court justice said? | ||
| When are you going to tell us what happened? | ||
| Well, you've been busy and weren't ready to comment. | ||
| You still say this person, now that you talk to, doesn't want to have what they told you discussed. | ||
| But let's start with the black sedan last, what was it, last Wednesday. | ||
| That was out in your driveway that would drive away every time you went out there, but you got photos of it driving away. | ||
| Yeah, so we come back and it's like, Clarence Thomas told me I can't talk about anything. | ||
| We get no information about it, but hey, guess what? | ||
| Let's talk more about that van that's now a sedan. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yep. | |
| This is half-hearted. | ||
| This is half-hearted. | ||
| No, but it's... | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| It is half-hearted, but it is double hubris. | ||
| Because it's too much. | ||
| It's comical. | ||
| It's comical. | ||
| Larry Nichols was supposed to come on and give Alex some big scoop or at least take the heat for some kind of a bullshit narrative. | ||
| Something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And all this buildup of Clarence Thomas called you. | ||
| It was good. | ||
| It was set. | ||
| The foundation was there. | ||
| Larry refused to play ball. | ||
| Just land the plane. | ||
| All you gotta do is land the plane. | ||
| Look at that van out there. | ||
| Isn't that scary? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And now that becomes the whole thing. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| All we can go back to is, hey, what about that van? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Do you want to know about that van? | ||
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Sure! | |
| Well, technically what that was was Homeland Security. | ||
| Technically. | ||
| And they told the police here that they had no jurisdiction over them and they could do any damn thing they wanted to do and pretty much let them... | ||
| Believe that I had a one-way ticket to Gitmo. | ||
| What that meant, I have no idea. | ||
| And Alex, if they want me, I live at 58 Kensington Drive, Conway, Arkansas. | ||
| I've never hidden it. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Let's do what's got to be done. | ||
| Just don't bore me to death. | ||
| I think a lot of it has to do, Alex, with, and how I end up in the middle of this junk, Alex, I never can figure out. | ||
| Oh, you can? | ||
| I think with some of the things that I was working on. | ||
| You make it up. | ||
| That's how you end up there. | ||
| I love that moment for two reasons. | ||
| One is the, let's do what we gotta do, just don't bore me. | ||
| Just, hey, kill me or don't kill me, I'm bored. | ||
| Cocky, cocky asshole, which I love. | ||
| But then, how do I find myself in the middle of these things? | ||
| It's just that moment of record scratches. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| You're probably asking how I find myself in the middle of those things. | ||
| You're probably asking how I ended up becoming entrenched in Clinton conspiracy theories. | ||
| Well, it's because I made up a bunch of bullshit. | ||
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Khalid, how do you like being here at Gitbo with me? | |
| I do like that. | ||
| They said that I had a one-way ticket to Gitbo, whatever that means. | ||
| You know what that means. | ||
| What do you mean, whatever that means? | ||
| Come on, Larry. | ||
| So, yeah, there's no spelling out of what was going on. | ||
| We've got to get to other stories. | ||
| Now, Alex, I've got another bit of news for you. | ||
| The Republican hierarchy, the establishment. | ||
| They have decided to forego fighting Donald Trump. | ||
| They're not going to fight him. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So it's not quite what you think. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| They're not going to fight him, but... | ||
| At the convention, they're gonna fuck him. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| There's gonna be a contested convention and Trump's gonna get screwed at the convention. | ||
| Oh, wouldn't that have been lovely? | ||
| That's the story that they've got going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's pretty boring. | ||
| And far more interesting is Larry trying to rationalize why Obama hasn't just put in... | ||
| A Supreme Court justice. | ||
| I mean, he's a dictator. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| He's a tyrant. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Obviously, based on every characterization that they've ever had of Obama, it's been eight days. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Should have decreed it the moment Scalia died. | ||
| The only reason the Republicans are blocking the hearing, or give the sense that they're blocking the hearing, is to get them through this election cycle. | ||
| Once the election cycle is over in November, they fully intend to address the situation with Obama and put in a Supreme Court justice before the next legislature or the next Congress takes office. | ||
| And that's why Obama keeps saying in due time, people want it now, he's going to wait until after the election. | ||
| He's going to wait. | ||
| Which shows there's a deal going on behind the scenes. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what I try to tell people. | ||
| They're not two teams, Alex. | ||
| There's not. | ||
| It's one. | ||
| None of this happened. | ||
| None of that happened. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Because they're just making it up. | ||
| I think I would have preferred that happen. | ||
| It's an interesting way to rationalize why the GOP is acting like an adversarial party when your entire worldview depends on them being the same team. | ||
| It's an interesting way to walk around that, although... | ||
| Wrong. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In every way. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, they're still talking, I know this was something that they discussed, Larry and Alex discussed a bit in 2015, and that was that Obama was going to be king for life. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| They discussed that here a little bit. | ||
| If they steal it from Trump, there's going to be civil unrest, and maybe that's what Obama wants, then he'll trigger, he's got his Black Lives Matter group thawed out, ready to activate. | ||
| You know, that's the thing, Alex, that people need to know. | ||
| We're getting boxed in. | ||
| People can think Obama's messing up. | ||
| Hey, that old boy's pulling every trick he wants to pull. | ||
| He's pulling it. | ||
| And you're exactly right. | ||
| He would love nothing better than for Trump to get cheated out of the election, for there to be an uprising, and then boom, he's now king. | ||
| You don't have to worry about a president. | ||
| He'll be it. | ||
| He'll be king forever, at least until he doesn't want to be king. | ||
| Yeah, we know how kings do that. | ||
| They just get, uh, I'm done. | ||
| You know, this is exactly the situation that Alex describes all the time, where it's like, I know that's what they would do, that's what I would do. | ||
| Where we're, like, listening to them describe all of the stuff that Trump is actively trying to do. | ||
| It feels like he's, uh, there's, but that's one of the things that makes me always be very, like, hyper-cautious about thoughts like that. | ||
| It's like, Am I succumbing to similar feelings as what Alex had? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And if Obama had... | ||
| If he had said, I'm going to be president for another 12 years, I think there's a different situation. | ||
| Won't that really piss people off? | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| Yeah, it's not similar at all, but it's... | ||
| You have to check in on it because of that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the other thing that's really interesting here is, like, you hear this and Alex is like, Obama's got his Black Lives Matter. | ||
| It's like, it's the exact same thing. | ||
| This is so four years in the past, but one glaring difference. | ||
| Alex didn't know about Antifa. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Even though he's known about Antifa for 20 years? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No mention of that or demons. | ||
| It seems like that would be really important if he knew about Antifa and knew that they were teamed up with Black Lives Matter and the devil. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He should have warned us all the way back in 2016. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Plan B is already about to be started. | ||
| What if he had told us in 2016 about Plan B? | ||
| There's not even a Plan A at this point. | ||
| We had four years to help out with Plan B, and now here we are. | ||
| We're screwed. | ||
| One last clip here from Larry's appearance on the 24th. | ||
| And I will say that my sense from listening to these interviews is that Larry wants the audience to believe that Hillary Clinton is behind the murder of Antonin Scalia. | ||
| Yes, that sounds right. | ||
| That seems to be his main point. | ||
| He's a little one-note when we get down to it. | ||
| Everything... | ||
| He winds up getting back to Hillary Clinton trying to kill people. | ||
| There's another clip. | ||
| I wish I would have cut this clip, but there's a point where Larry seems to think that it's going to come down to him versus Hillary. | ||
| Like a Matrix situation. | ||
| Like, Hillary is Agent Smith and he's Neo, and they're gonna do battle. | ||
| There's a hundred Hillary's. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright, that makes sense now. | ||
| It's just gonna come down to me and her. | ||
| I do like that. | ||
| I don't know, Larry. | ||
| I like that belief system. | ||
| So, I think that that is what he's pushing as the thing that he wants the audience to believe that Clarence Thomas had told him, but he doesn't want the responsibility of having to be on the hook for any of those things. | ||
| Sure, sure, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, it really... | ||
| It makes me pissed off when he says something like this. | ||
| Alright, let me say it this way. | ||
| As you know, Alex, I have never said the Clintons ever actually killed anybody who ordered them to be killed. | ||
| Now, talking about Hillary, would she be the kind of person that would have no trouble saying off the guy? | ||
| Hillary would do it in a second. | ||
| In a second. | ||
| That's so... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| The thing that I've made my entire career out of saying. | ||
| You know I've never said anything like that. | ||
| You know, I've never said that Hillary killed anyone or ordered any assassinations, but I know from her temper that she wouldn't be against it. | ||
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Why would you do that to us? | |
| Why would you abuse us in that way? | ||
| What an asshole. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| What a dick. | ||
| What a world-class dick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Anyway, I don't care to mock the dead, but I do think that there is something still very fun about celebrating the life and career of somebody who... | ||
| Was this transparent of a dick? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And yet somehow made a career out of it. | ||
| And honestly, I believe... | ||
| I mean, we talked to Larry. | ||
| You talked to him a couple times. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I've listened to a shit ton of him on various shows. | ||
| And I don't think he would have a problem with us laughing at him. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| Nuh-uh. | ||
| If I were him, I would expect this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, I think based on our conversations, this is absolutely... | ||
| Something that he would delight in. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Like, when we talked to him, and he was spitting his bullshit, you could tell he had a bit of a smile on as we were like, you're full of shit. | ||
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And he was like, you can believe what you want to believe. | |
| And it's like, yeah, we both know that we don't believe that, and neither do you. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| So, I mean, no disrespect to his family members who survived him, and, you know, I don't want to, like, piss on a grave or anything, to use Alex-type terms. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| I also think that I want to take a moment to recognize the brand of bullshit that has come into our lives thanks to him. | ||
| And it is a momentous moment, whether Alex will accept it or not. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And maybe Coach Dave. | ||
| I bet Dave Daubenmire didn't. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I would hope so. | ||
| He had Larry on a bunch of times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ooh, I should go check. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This is one of those things where it kind of feels to me like this is the cutthroat world of right-wing propaganda, is once you stop being useful... | ||
| Whether you're alive or dead, you're just gone. | ||
| I worry about that, too. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I worry about that, too. | ||
| And the reason that I can't make any kind of definitive statements is because there are episodes that I haven't listened to. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| There's a decent chance that two minutes of one of them is Alex saying, rest in peace, Larry, or something. | ||
| But based on the importance of Larry Nichols to Alex, that's not good enough. | ||
| There should be... | ||
| Like, Alex should have commissioned a musical or something about this great guy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| They should have done a 24-hour The Greatest Hits marathon. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Or something. | ||
| Something. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird that we're like not to make fun of his death or not to mock the family, and yet we're like the only people who are really paying attention to it. | ||
| In the first place. | ||
| It seems that way. | ||
| It seems like they're dealing with it is way less... | ||
| It feels like it. | ||
| It's a little infuriating. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Why do I care more than Alex Jones? | ||
| This is a problem for me. | ||
| Well, I mean, everyone is disposable to an extent. | ||
| We saw how Alex will turn his back on folks like Steve or Larry if they're... | ||
| Their momentary brand of propaganda isn't what he needs. | ||
| There's so many people who used to be respected experts who now are just not welcome in the Infowars sphere. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| It is a bummer because it makes things very transactional. | ||
| Like with Trump, there's just no loyalty. | ||
| I don't understand why these people constantly think that there's some sort of Loyal reward that they'll earn. | ||
| They're just going to be tossed aside when they're useless. | ||
| Until they come up with something cool like Egyptian sex parties and then they'll come back for a minute and then they'll go away again. | ||
| Goodbye again. | ||
| Anyway, rest in peace, Larry. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
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We are on Facebook if you'd like to download iTunes. | |
| And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Daryl Rundis. | ||
| I was driving that black van. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |