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Oct. 12, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#490: October 9, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on to see how Alex Jones covered the fact that a fly landed on Mike Pence's head during the Vice Presidential debate, and come away disappointed.

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alex jones
05:16
d
dan friesen
21:44
j
jordan holmes
12:02
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owen shroyer
00:12
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
I'm Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
My bright spot today has to do with worms.
Oh.
Worm farm is going strong.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was touch and go there for a bit.
I did not know exactly what I was doing or if I was feeding them correctly and everything.
But now, there's a feeling that I have that is like, the act of composting is making food more exciting for me a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because, like, for example, this morning I made a couple eggs and some coffee, and I realized that I can take these eggshells, feed them to the worms.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Coffee grinds, feed them to the worms.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Boom!
jordan holmes
You can just feed coffee grinds to worms?
dan friesen
Oh, they love them.
jordan holmes
It seems like you can feed anything.
How can you be worried about whether you can't feed anything to worms?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
What can't you feed to worms?
dan friesen
Spicy things?
jordan holmes
Spicy things.
dan friesen
Yeah, so like peppers.
Non-spicy peppers are fine, but hot peppers, no.
Citrus, you want to avoid.
You don't want to give them too much citrus.
What happens?
jordan holmes
Do they explode?
dan friesen
They turn into gremlins.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's no good.
dan friesen
No.
Also, like cheese, you don't want to give worms to worms.
jordan holmes
Lactose intolerant?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I think meat, too, isn't good, because that'll also, like, rot.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
So you can give them garbage, is what you're saying.
dan friesen
Give them, like, vegetable and fruit cuttings.
Sure, sure, sure.
Cardboard, paper.
jordan holmes
Stuff that you normally compost.
dan friesen
Yeah, compost stuff.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's interesting, because it's turning into, like, almost a feeling of, like...
Hey, is there a way that I can make almost everything neutral?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I ate the inside of the egg and my worms ate the shell.
I drank the coffee and then the coffee grinds.
No trash, no waste.
jordan holmes
And they will turn into more things.
dan friesen
Fertilizer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
There you go.
dan friesen
It's perfect.
So that was a bright spot for me, thinking about how me and my worms can split a meal.
jordan holmes
When are you going to start pooping on the worms?
Like, direct to just stand up.
Just let it fly.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's as bad as cheese, but I think you're not supposed to do that.
jordan holmes
Well, you can't eat any nuts, obviously.
dan friesen
I think you're not supposed to do that.
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is twofold, Dan.
First, my most important bright spot is always annoying to you, but Rafa won his 13th French Open.
dan friesen
Congrats to Rafa.
jordan holmes
Rafa, he won his 13th French Open.
It was very exciting.
I genuinely believe that if he stopped playing all the other tournaments and just played clay court, he could probably win another 13th.
It's insanely good.
dan friesen
Good on him.
jordan holmes
It's incredible.
But my second bright spot, Dan, do you recall the endless story about the strawberries?
The chocolate-covered strawberries?
Yes.
dan friesen
About the delivery date.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yes, it was wrong.
So we were done with it.
And then on her birthday, I didn't send any emails.
I didn't do anything.
Her birthday, everything came and went by.
No big deal.
The day after her birthday...
More chocolate strawberries showed up.
I didn't order them.
That's not even the right day for when I would have ordered them.
dan friesen
No, they would have been late if they weren't early.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
If they weren't also early.
jordan holmes
They just sent me more strawberries.
So I have so many goddamn chocolate strawberries.
dan friesen
And questions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can only eat so...
Did you know that there's a limit on how many you can eat before you're like, I'm done.
With chocolate-covered strawberries.
dan friesen
I did actually know that.
And it wasn't from reading an article.
unidentified
No, it wasn't.
dan friesen
I just know that I can make it through about two of them.
And then I'm kind of like, ugh.
jordan holmes
I'm going to need to wait another six months before I have one of these.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is why I didn't spring for that fondue set.
jordan holmes
That would be smart.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be smart.
dan friesen
Thought about it.
Hey, why not have a chocolate fountain in the house?
jordan holmes
I don't think the worms can eat the chocolate fountain, though.
dan friesen
No, they can't.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You can swim in it.
alex jones
Okay.
jordan holmes
That would be a good idea.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about October 9th, 2020.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
unidentified
God damn it!
dan friesen
That is Friday's episode from last week.
I would like to start this episode off with a tiny bit of an apology to the folks.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Mostly for the sort of radio silence.
We didn't have an episode on Friday, and I didn't post anything online.
And part of the reason I get into that, but...
We used to talk a bit more openly about mental health struggles on the podcast.
And one of the reasons that I have talked about it less is because part of my struggle...
Is hurt by the idea of everyone knowing my struggle.
The anxiety that I deal with gets worse if I talk about it.
And I'm aware that there are tens of thousands of people who listen to the show.
Whereas I admire your ability to be open about your bipolar struggle much more.
jordan holmes
I guess I would say bravely than I. I mean, in a certain sense, it's also just a side effect of being bipolar.
unidentified
Yeah, I guess.
jordan holmes
What else am I going to be loud about?
dan friesen
I guess that's fair.
jordan holmes
It's a different story.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so I got on some meds for depression and anxiety a while back, and we haven't really talked a ton about that because I also don't really find it as interesting.
Sure.
But it was doing quite well.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that's another reason that you weren't talking about is because you were feeling better.
dan friesen
Yeah, quite a bit.
There were ups and downs, but I have been somebody who's been reluctant to take meds in the past, at least in my more adult years.
And part of the reason for it is...
Fears, uncertainties, not distrust of like they were.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, of course.
dan friesen
I just always thought like, well, I'll be able to talk my way through this eventually.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And then I gave it a shot, just thought about like, oh, let's explore this and see.
And I had some positive results and it was great.
And this last week, I accidentally had stopped taking my meds.
And one of the things that's really tough about that is somebody who doesn't, You know, isn't a habitual med taker?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
It is that you don't really notice sometimes when you stop taking them.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it's this really weird phenomenon that I don't fully understand, and I don't think I've heard talked about all that much, but there was a good week before my...
I don't know exactly what my point is, but I had a little bit of trouble.
Last week.
And I appreciate in advance, I guess, people being nice.
I don't know.
We'll see.
No one has any obligation to be nice.
jordan holmes
This would be a weird time for them to turn on you, but...
dan friesen
Yeah.
But I'm okay.
Everything's alright.
And I'm sorry, like I said, to have radio silence.
But the reason for that was that part of...
What I really needed to do to get back to normal was to consult with help, take the meds, get back to normal, do some healthy things, and avoid being on social media at all.
jordan holmes
No, it was the smartest move for you.
dan friesen
I really apologize for anybody who got confused or was worried.
It's nice that someone may be worried, but I would hate to have precipitated that.
And, you know, onward and upward.
Yeah.
I don't want to dwell too much on this, but, like, you know, and the only thing you can really do is keep moving forward.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
So, we shall.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely.
unidentified
It was, yeah, it was difficult.
jordan holmes
It was a little scary, but we're back on it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I appreciate your help in particular.
You're a great friend, and...
jordan holmes
Ah, come on.
unidentified
Ah!
jordan holmes
Ah, Dan, we had an argument one time.
Come on now.
dan friesen
Didn't we?
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
A couple times.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
So yeah, we're gonna get back to, you know, normalcy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But today, on this episode, we're gonna be talking about October 9th.
And there's not a lot going on on this episode.
And I thought there would be.
Because, you know, this is after the vice presidential debates.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And, of course, a fly landed on Mike Pence's head.
jordan holmes
That's the only thing anyone will remember from those debates.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, Alex made a big deal out of a fly going around Obama and said that he smelled like sulfur.
It was a sign that he's demon-possessed.
jordan holmes
It does seem like it would be at least something you have to address.
dan friesen
It was a big part of Alex's rhetoric, and so I figured, like...
It's gonna be like, oh, it's a good fly.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah.
dan friesen
Something like that.
jordan holmes
This is God's fly.
dan friesen
And then you have the other issue that I know that this is one of your big sort of lanes.
That was Trump's treatment.
I don't know if you want to say something about this.
jordan holmes
What?
That he's fueled by abortions now?
What do you want me to say about his treatment?
dan friesen
Say a little more about this, because I didn't look into this specific treatment.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's exaggerating.
It's a bunch of stuff that uses themselves, and some of them are sourced from abortions.
dan friesen
But that's the way that someone like Alex would present this.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
If it were...
Hillary Clinton getting a treatment that involves themselves.
jordan holmes
She is eating abortions to survive, and she will eat you when she runs out of aborted fetuses!
dan friesen
Right.
So, Trump is getting this treatment that Alex would deride as demonic, and his enemies, and a fly landed on Mike Pence's head.
And so, I was like, well, gotta click.
Gotta see what's going on here.
jordan holmes
Gotta see what's up there, yeah.
dan friesen
And, uh, yeah.
Not much.
jordan holmes
I'm not surprised.
I'm not surprised that that information isn't really being widely publicized in the far right circles.
dan friesen
What, the fly?
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, not the fly part.
No, not the fly.
The fact that their president, his life was saved by abortion should really be something that they think about.
Like a lot, but they won't.
Which is amazing.
dan friesen
So, a lot of the beginning of the show is about the UN getting an award for fighting the use of hunger in war.
jordan holmes
That sounds exactly like the top story everyone was talking about on Friday.
I remember that one being huge.
dan friesen
The UN got an award, and you know, it's the kind of thing where there'll be like a war that's going on, and some leader will starve people as a means of...
Yes, of course.
down, which is causing the collapse of the first world, which will cause the collapse of the third world, which will kill off everybody, which is basically them using hunger as war.
And so he believes it's hypocritical.
He goes on for a very long time about it, and I found it incredibly boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That very much doesn't surprise me.
I was bored when the moment you said he started talking about the UN, I was like, what are we even here for?
What are we here for?
I'm not talking about the UN today.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, this was the first thing that I heard that I kind of was, like, interested a little bit.
Because there's a long stretch of just complaining about the UN.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Yeah, they have learned helplessness drills they do, and they also have situational ethics.
They call it spaceship or lifeboat, where they do this with astronauts.
They'll decide if somebody's got to take cyanide pills because they're not going to...
Make it back in enough time for everybody to have no food and water.
They'll decide who's most essential and who isn't.
Then you decide who dies first.
Then once you've gotten into that mindset, well, now you've just given into total eugenics.
And so that's really where all this is going.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
What else would you do to prepare astronauts for a really bad situation?
jordan holmes
They all die simultaneously.
That's the only way to not support eugenics in this situation, Dan.
Obviously.
dan friesen
I mean, I would like astronauts to be well-trained.
And I think there are few higher-stakes situations than something going wrong in space.
jordan holmes
It's hard.
dan friesen
You don't like to think about it.
You don't like to realize that sometimes maybe someone does have to die in order for the rest of the crew to make it home.
alex jones
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But what's the alternative?
Don't talk about it?
unidentified
And then they fight up in space about who's going to...
jordan holmes
Oh, we're drawing straws?
We're astronauts.
We're not going to draw straws like we're in Lord of the Fucking Flies.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Then the one person who can fly the ship...
I know they can all fly, more or less.
But like, you know, somebody who may be more essential than getting the mission home ends up drawing the straw.
Like, well, sorry, fair is fair.
unidentified
Yeah.
Like, why wouldn't they have these exercises?
Because they're committed to not using eugenics, Dan.
jordan holmes
That's what real principles mean.
Everyone dies on that spaceship.
And if you want to use eugenics on Earth, we all take cyanide pills the same way.
Daily.
dan friesen
It's very silly to me the way Alex takes these kinds of things where, you know, it's a worst-case scenario planning if you're in space, for example.
And then it's like, this is the plan for everyone.
No, that's the plan for when something goes wrong in space.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Very unique circumstances.
They've even got a plan for if somebody goes space crazy.
They've got a whole chain of command thing set up.
They've got the whole thing.
Also, if you're not doing that, what's the alternative?
If you're not doing the, like, here's what we do if this disaster happens.
Are you telling me that you want, like, mission control to implant suicide chips in the back of their head and be like, sorry, Louie's gotta go.
Like, boom, and he's gone?
Like, that's scary.
dan friesen
That's really scary.
I think Alex would be against that.
jordan holmes
I would hope so.
dan friesen
I think he just wants him to wing it.
jordan holmes
I think he kind of does.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would wing it in that situation.
So why not you?
dan friesen
I think it's a bad plan.
So like I said, the entire beginning of the show is just about this UN getting an award.
And I probably wouldn't play this clip except for how it ends.
alex jones
Instead of coronavirus, the hunger will kill us.
The global food crisis looms.
That was back in April.
Oh, but don't worry.
The UN just got an award for fighting food as a weapon as they use it as a weapon.
Be like if I brought a puppy in here and got that sword hypothetically.
And chop its head off, and then the S, whatever it's called, the Dog and Cat Association, whatever it is, SSPCA, whatever they're called.
It'd be like if I brought a puppy in here, I would never do that.
I love dogs, hypothetically.
Chopped its head off, getting an award from the local animal rights group.
dan friesen
Talks about killing dogs a lot.
jordan holmes
He talks about killing dogs a lot.
dan friesen
Quite a bit.
And I know that he loves to throw in, like, hypothetically, politically and stuff.
Sure, sure, sure.
But the timing of it was pretty bad there.
He said, I love dogs, hypothetically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
The train of thought there suggests that hypothetically involves all of it.
Like, hypothetically, if I love dogs.
dan friesen
Were I to like dogs, then...
jordan holmes
I would never cut a head off of a dog.
dan friesen
The cat and dog association would be up at arms.
All right.
So, one of the other big stories that had broken by Friday that I was interested in seeing what Alex had to say about was the news about the militia folks who had planned to kidnap Michigan Governor Widmer.
jordan holmes
Now, we could talk about that, but the UN did something, Dan, that's way more important than an attempted overthrow of a state.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
I was interested because I felt like, ah, militia, Alex hates Whitmer.
It kind of feels like it's got to come up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, everything feels like it's got to come up.
Fly on Pence's head has to come up.
unidentified
Huge.
dan friesen
This had to.
And one of the things that gets really depressing about covering Alex in the present day is, like, I could Mad Libs his show for the most part.
Like, I knew exactly what he was going to say about this plot already.
alex jones
I'm going to go to break and I'm going to come back and hit a lot of other really important news.
We've got, again, the supposed...
Militia commander up there is an Antifa individual that hates Trump, police in America, and the Republican Party.
unidentified
There we go.
alex jones
But he is the guy that was going to get Queenie Whitmer.
By the way, I would have covered the food story as our top story, regardless of the fact we're running a giant sale on high-quality, horrible food, but I think it is an example.
dan friesen
Everything is so predictable.
unidentified
You son of a bitch.
jordan holmes
I'm just shaking my head.
Just like, stop it, man.
You son of a bitch.
You can't be doing that.
dan friesen
Yeah, pretty impressive.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Hey, look, the reason I'm covering this story is because it's important, but also, I should tell you, food buckets.
Go to my Patriot Supply affiliate link that I've got now.
jordan holmes
He's still plugging that.
It's so ridiculous.
Every time.
I am going to whip all of my far-right people into a frenzy, knowing full well that many of them are in militias.
I know many of them have violent fantasies, and I have told them that it's a good idea to choose targets in the higher-ups and take them out.
And then, when something happens, it was Antifa, Dan!
It was Antifa!
dan friesen
I don't know if this militia guy who is the leader of this group was necessarily interested in the same brand of shit that Alex was, but you're right.
I mean, that is the strategy.
It is antagonize people to do things and then blame Antifa.
It's more or less the name of the game.
And you knew the second you saw that story, it's like, well, it looks like that's a leftist.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
And so...
I gotta say, he plays some clips of the militia leader talking, and honestly, it sounds like Alex in the past.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Because he's talking about, like, you know, Trump isn't, he's a tyrant, man.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, like, all this stuff that he's, you know, like, you need to be free, dude.
Like, oh, the police, they're just there to follow orders.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Like, it sounds like Alex's, most of his career.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yeah, that's because it's what you believe.
I mean, it's not what he believes.
He believes that there is high-quality, storable food with your name on it, Dan.
dan friesen
Alex is playing, essentially, this, like, no true Scotsman type game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, totally.
dan friesen
He's like, hey, no right-wing militia weirdo would say bad things about Trump, therefore this guy isn't.
Part of my world.
jordan holmes
See?
Why am I associated with him?
What, is he saying anything that I'm saying?
No, I love Trump so much that I will lick his boot all day, every day.
I would never say anything like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, about, you know, at the end of the first hour, towards the end of the first hour, something weird happened.
That was pretty unexpected.
alex jones
Alright, here we are in the final segment of this hour.
Owen Sawyer's coming in.
I've got an emergency, just like last Friday.
Family matter I have to attend to, part of the ongoing harassment that InfoWars goes through.
And then I'll be back in the third and fourth hours today.
But no one's going to knock it out of the park.
dan friesen
So I have left to go to family court.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like you did the previous Friday.
jordan holmes
It's part of his harassment family court.
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
unidentified
That's a bummer.
jordan holmes
That's a real bummer.
dan friesen
That is a huge bummer.
Just watching this episode and just him being like, militia, that's a fucking Antifa guy, whatever.
jordan holmes
False flag.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, the Trump's treatment and the fly don't come up.
jordan holmes
Don't come up at all.
alex jones
At all.
jordan holmes
That's a surprise.
That blew my mind right there.
dan friesen
So Alex leaves for about an hour.
Actually, only about 35 minutes.
So he probably teleconferenced.
I can't imagine he drove to the courthouse and back in the time that he was off air.
But he comes back, and we get another follow-up on something that Alex has been zigzagging all over the place with.
Owen Schroyer is still in studio, and we get an update on the will-they-won't-they about the Attorney General.
alex jones
We know Bill Barr was high-level CIA.
We know Bill Barr was brought in by H.W. Bush in the early 1990s, right before the clutches.
jordan holmes
To cover up crimes.
alex jones
We know who these people are.
And so he represents the older establishment that doesn't want to completely destroy America, but wants to carry out globalism that we kind of control.
The newer globalists are run by communist China.
They're the latter phase of it for the takedown of America.
So now the dialectic is, on the right you've got globalists that just don't want to destroy America.
They want us to have a seat at the new world order.
And then you've got the hyper-globalists that want all nation states totally destroyed.
So we have a paradigm of that false debate right there.
And Barr represents those that want to slowly salami slice America up in little pieces and digest it with enjoyment instead of a big, messy, burn it all down at once, because he understands that he'll probably get put in a gulag during that process as he sees as well.
So anybody that, you know, lionizes Barr, anybody that thinks it's all magically going to get fixed, I mean, this just proves all the cutard stuff is not accurate.
dan friesen
So he's mad at Bill Barr now.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So now he can be magically aware of the fact that he came in during H.W. Bush.
He's high-level CIA.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Surprise.
Also, he can be totally fine with him being exactly like the person that he describes as a demon, just like...
Gradual?
dan friesen
Yeah, slow demon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So you're just fine with that?
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
The problem is speed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, I get it.
dan friesen
The problem is pace.
jordan holmes
I understand that, like, in some cases, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
I understand that's possible.
But he still wants to kill everyone.
dan friesen
Salami slice.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's, I feel like that's a deal breaker for me.
dan friesen
It should be.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Alright, good.
dan friesen
No, I have no rebuttal.
Yeah.
That's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
For Alex to be like, he's a slow globalist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so let's side with him because that's the dialectic where you should be like, fuck all of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
What are you doing?
Like, here's the thing, okay?
I like eco, right?
I don't like fascism.
I don't like...
them together?
And that's a deal breaker for me.
I'm not gonna be like, well, we gotta work with the eco-fascists for a while.
They like the, you know, they want to stop climate change too.
dan friesen
They like the eco stuff.
jordan holmes
They want to slowly make us a fascist climate change aware place.
dan friesen
Surrounding the issues that I like.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Like eco issues.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yes.
They want to exploit those to bring in the later part.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Bad.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex should be, at this point, like...
Completely against Bill Barr.
But he's not really.
Owen seems to be over it.
He seems pissed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are you?
dan friesen
Um...
But this has to do with the fact that Bill Barr came out and said there aren't going to be indictments of people like Obama and all that.
Nothing's coming before the election.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
There's no October surprise or whatever.
And this has really turned off a lot of people in Alex's milieu.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So Alex starts getting into this weird headspace where he's just giving a rant and he's talking to Owen about how like, hey, hey, right now?
Big wave of nationalism.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
These patriots, huge.
unidentified
A lot of them.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
A lot of good things are happening.
jordan holmes
Nazis.
dan friesen
Next one will be big.
Even bigger.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
You think people, you think the wave we're in right now has been big, brother?
The wave coming is going to be 50 times bigger.
We're going to be sitting back in 10 years, 20 years, looking, we're still alive, looking back and feeling sorry for the New World Order.
I mean, they're going to get torn limb from limb, politically.
Yeah, I just think...
You think that little sack of filth, this sack of filth family can take us on?
jordan holmes
Probably.
alex jones
We eat him!
He doesn't eat us!
I eat you, boy!
You don't eat me!
You got that, you sack of filth?
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
owen shroyer
I'm just really upset that Bill Barr isn't the patriot we hoped he would be, that's all.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
alex jones
I'm just pissed off that...
Oh my God.
dan friesen
Oh my God.
jordan holmes
How are...
You know he's not!
You already knew it!
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
How are we not just like...
Yeah, of course not.
Of course he wasn't.
We knew that before we...
dan friesen
Everyone knew that.
jordan holmes
Everybody knew that.
How are you acting surprised?
dan friesen
Kind of have to.
So, thing that...
I think he was yelling about Bill Gates there.
From context clues, that was who he's going to eat.
jordan holmes
That's what I was thinking.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I just found that to be so interestingly...
unidentified
False.
dan friesen
The yelling, I'm gonna eat you, boy!
unidentified
And then Owen just being like, I'm disappointed Bill Barr's not a patriot.
dan friesen
These two guys playing ping pong with incredibly different rackets.
jordan holmes
It's kind of sad.
It's kind of sad.
Because that's like a quick encapsulation of why Owen's never going to do anything.
It's because Alex at least fakes it.
He comes with the, Bah!
You sack of filth!
I eat you!
He's phoning it in, but at least he's trying.
And Owen follows that up with, You know, I'm just disappointed.
Like, what are you doing?
unidentified
I'm not mad.
jordan holmes
What are you doing, man?
You gotta get some electricity going.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's strange.
And, uh, yeah.
I don't know.
It almost feels like Owen would like to work somewhere else eventually.
And so you don't want to yell about eating people.
Until you find wherever you're going to be.
Right.
jordan holmes
And it's going to be nowhere.
That's why you should start yelling about eating people now.
dan friesen
Yeah, go ahead.
jordan holmes
That's your lane, man.
dan friesen
Pull the trigger on eating people talk, Owen.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You're not getting out of this lane, buddy.
dan friesen
So, Alex is trying to equivocate a little bit about Barr stuff.
And Owen, like I said, you just get the real sense that he is not into it.
He is pissed off that Bill Barr is not making a move.
And you can tell, too, because Alex is kind of needling him a little bit.
A little bit.
Like, saying Owen's mad.
jordan holmes
Oh, because he thinks Owen actually believed it.
dan friesen
Well, maybe.
And because I think maybe off-air, Owen's complaining about this quite a bit.
And Alex is bringing that.
Because on-air, Owen's composed and what have you.
But I think that he might be more mad about this than he lets on.
alex jones
Let's move away from being upset about Barr not being a purist.
He was involved in special corrupt technician teams internationally for George Herbert Walker Bush.
Look at it more as a defection to us that he's more and more like 80% working against him.
jordan holmes
Now that's a bright spot.
alex jones
I mean, the leopards don't change their spots, Bubba.
owen shroyer
I just like to see treasonous tyrants put in jail.
alex jones
But you need to understand this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, don't we all?
alex jones
I'll explain this when we come back.
We can debate it if you want.
jordan holmes
I don't want to debate it.
unidentified
There's no debate.
owen shroyer
I want Obama to be arrested.
alex jones
No, I hear you.
Well, I want more than that.
unidentified
Yeah, so I mean...
That's all it is.
alex jones
There's a dialectic to this, but listen, let's go to break and come back and break this down a little bit, okay?
unidentified
It's never going to happen.
I mean, I know.
alex jones
If they arrest Obama, it makes him a victim.
unidentified
Of course not.
alex jones
Okay, those guys, they wound up to kidnap Whitmer.
That makes her look better.
unidentified
That's an irrelevant thing.
All right, all right, all right.
alex jones
I got to plug your radio.
They tried to set us there.
Everything's great.
We're all left.
Hey, anyways, the point is that we need your financial support.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
That is so strange.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Anything.
Anything can turn into an ad pitch if you believe in yourself, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If you just talk over Owen enough, it'll get there.
jordan holmes
Wow, it does sound like Owen actually bought his own bullshit and Alex is sitting there like...
dan friesen
He bought bars shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Alex is just going like, on air, I have to tell you that there's good things about him.
Off air, I'll explain to you that we all knew this the whole time, Owen.
How old are you?
Are you 24?
Oh, God, you're so stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah, there is a vibe of like...
Get over it, kid.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
We've been here before, man.
dan friesen
We have to shine this up, and the best way we can do that is get a little polish.
The polish, the jar says he's 80% defected to us.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The polish, it's labeled meaningless isms.
Then we just shine the boot.
And lick it.
jordan holmes
It is like that old, like, when you take a high-paying, high-powerful job, it's like, the first thing that you do is you, somebody comes in, like a mayor job, and it's like, come in and you just eat a bowl of shit.
I think this is from The Wire.
You know, and then the next person comes in and you eat a bigger bowl of shit, and the next person comes, like, this is feeling like Owen's first big bowl of shit, where he's like, I doubt it.
Oh my god, I have to do even this?
It's gonna get bigger?
dan friesen
Ugh.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's strange.
So, this next clip is just a mess.
Alex is complaining about immigrant populations coming to the United States.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Particularly Somali Americans.
jordan holmes
Is that because their abortions are powering his president?
dan friesen
No, it's because...
He believes that they all act as one, which is why the globalists are bringing them in to use them against him.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Which doesn't at all sound like anti-Semitic propaganda from the past.
jordan holmes
Maybe a little bit.
alex jones
So we're not against Somalis.
We're against their tribal form of government and that their people are slaves to whoever the top Somalias.
owen shroyer
And the Democrats bring them in and then have a voting bloc.
alex jones
You ever wonder why you go to an airport like Seattle or Portland or Minneapolis, St. Paul, wherever, and it's like all Somalis?
Baggage?
Clerks?
And you're like, How'd they only hire one group?
Because the local chief says, anyone that's out of line, there's no unions, they'll kill you.
And then nothing's said.
That's why.
Poor Somalis.
It's a slave class they brought into America.
I feel so sorry for them.
dan friesen
I should tell you that there are unions of airport work.
One statistic I saw cited was 85% plus of United, American, the major airlines, they're all unionized.
I don't know what Alex is talking about other than just explicit xenophobia and racism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
Nonsensical.
First of all, it's not all Somali people who are working at airports, and if you screw up on the job, they don't take you out and kill you.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I don't know what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Furthermore, how would you know if someone was Somali or not if you didn't talk to them?
Alex, did you ask them?
Did you hear an accent?
No, you just saw what?
dan friesen
I gotta go.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex takes some calls, and they're not good.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
Nothing really all that interesting.
A lot of people want to talk about the Bill Barr thing, and Alex is treading water a bit on that, but not in an interesting way.
Just sort of like, yeah, you know.
jordan holmes
How did you guys not know that this was going to happen?
dan friesen
So he gets one caller, and this is really strange.
I had to look in to figure out who this guy was.
unidentified
I want to tell y 'all to go to generalshepard.com, subscribe to my channel, General Shepard YouTube Communist Channel on YouTube, and Bart Fine.
alex jones
Hold on, is this the great General Shepard?
unidentified
I am one of the three content providers that, not Netflix, but there's other scumbags news we did a hit piece on, and they didn't even give me a shout-out.
alex jones
Oh yeah, all hail General Shepard!
You guys have done a great job with the names.
They have trouble banning that name.
So you keep putting it up and it's doing a great job.
And I salute you, brother, and I thank you so much.
There he goes.
dan friesen
That was really confusing to me, so I had to check and figure out what it was.
This is just a dude who reposts Alex's content on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
The famous General Shepard who just reposts Alex's content.
dan friesen
Alex's videos, yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, good on you, brother.
dan friesen
I would think that Alex would be furious about this, because it's good for Alex to have a lot of people posting his content, possibly, and getting low amounts of views.
That might help him as an advertising strategy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This dude is creating a YouTube channel where he's getting, like, 50,000 views on a video of one of Alex's shows.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's 50,000 people who are watching it there instead of band.video.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
That is people who are, like, you have now given a new place outside of your direct revenue stream.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It seems like Alex should be mad about that, but I guess it's just all eyes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
And these videos are full of, like, Alex doing ad pitches and stuff, so...
jordan holmes
Well, if he's getting 50,000 views and Alex is doing ad pitches, it's still, you know, Alex...
It's not like he's...
Because you can't even monetize it.
They're going to catch you before you get paid for it.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's not making money on the traffic on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And whatever could trickle down will eventually...
If anybody watches those videos and is like, hey, this guy sounds really cool, there's a decent chance they'll end up on Alex's site eventually.
Yeah, maybe.
jordan holmes
Sooner or later.
dan friesen
I guess there's some sort of spiderweb strategy to it.
Maybe.
This is going to be a truncated episode because...
For one, I'm fine, but I'm not 100%.
And then second, this is just not a show that is all that interesting.
Alex leaves in the middle of it for a time, and then he has Owen in studio, and they just bro out a bit.
Alex yells about eating Bill Gates.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Who doesn't want to, though?
dan friesen
Then Alex interviews a guy who did a prank.
jordan holmes
Ooh, he did a prank?
dan friesen
I don't even remember what it was about.
I was listening to it, and it felt...
Incredibly stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, alright.
It was a waste.
It was a waste.
Just talking about, like, the UN and Bill Barr.
Those were the topics that were covered.
jordan holmes
That's so pathetic.
dan friesen
In a meaningful way.
Wanted to hear about the fly.
Wanted to hear about a rationalization for Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Here's why.
That would be interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it would take some creativity, it would take some bending, some sort of matrix bullet time for Alex to figure out why the fly landing on Pence doesn't mean he's a demon, but it did for Obama.
Instead, you're just like, ah, fuck it, who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's kind of disappointing.
jordan holmes
That's bullshit.
It is.
Because here's the other and the larger problem with that kind of bullshit, and it exemplifies that problem, which is that...
If they ban abortion in the United States, you think the rich aren't going to be able to get treatments based on abortion elsewhere?
They're going to be able to go and get whatever treatments they fucking want.
And here in the United States, they're going to cut off all federal funding and they're going to make it as impossible as it can be to even research all of that shit.
And it's only going to hurt poor people and they know that and they're just exploiting the insane stuff that they fed into those idiots who are going to be hurt who vote for them to then destroy it and they don't care because they don't have to deal with the consequences of it.
dan friesen
Except for weird calls about how Bill Barr's disappointing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and those are...
Not that bad.
No.
dan friesen
So, we have one last caller who's actually on that topic about Bill Barr.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And this is where it's just like this weird three-card Monty game that Alex is playing just is such a bummer.
unidentified
How you doing, Alex?
I wanted to talk about Barr real quick.
I never thought he would do anything.
dan friesen
He was an Iran-Contra holder.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alex has been shining his shit for so long, even though he knew, like everybody did.
dan friesen
It's not like he just learned about Bill Barr's involvement in Iran-Contra.
No!
jordan holmes
He was hired because he has experience covering up crimes!
That's why they hired him!
dan friesen
One of the things that I find the most interesting about the present day that's so full of not interesting things that Alex does...
Is this back and forth on William Barr?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is kind of interesting to me.
The way that Alex lashes out whenever there's bad news about Barr.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And is now instantly aware.
This time it's Iran-Contra involvement.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
Last time it was Barr's father being involved with Epstein.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
These things, he magically becomes aware of them and then forgets whenever Barr does something that is good.
It's almost as if he's trying to punish Barr.
For doing, as if he has some sort of control over Barr's actions.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
I see it as...
dan friesen
And that seems ludicrous to me.
First of all, that it would be a real thing.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And then second, that Alex would think he could sway the Attorney General with talking shit on his radio show.
jordan holmes
No, that insane nightmare would not be swayed by AJ.
dan friesen
Hard to imagine.
jordan holmes
But the way I think of it is, I think this is his, like...
Trump is a shitty president.
He knows that.
Nobody doesn't know that who isn't insane.
So he is lashing out at Bill Barr the way that he wishes he could to Trump.
So he's sublimating all of the shit that he really wants to say to Trump into finally criticizing somebody.
And Bill Barr, he's always hated, so there you go.
dan friesen
Yeah, that could be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
I might be too psychoanalysis kind of going on right here, but on the other hand, I've listened to so much of him talk.
dan friesen
Yeah, I just wonder if there will be more clues in terms of him going back and forth on Barr more.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm interested, but also it just seems like he said something good.
I'm aware of his bad.
jordan holmes
Love him.
dan friesen
It said something I don't like.
Now he's bad.
jordan holmes
I've known he was bad the whole time.
dan friesen
But I know eventually he's probably going to say something I like again.
So he's 80% turned to our side.
jordan holmes
I can't just throw him away.
He's not going anywhere.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
But here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Here's what it is.
dan friesen
Here's what it is.
jordan holmes
Here's what it really is.
Here's how you know Alex knew none of these indictments were going to come down whatsoever.
He's not at all trying to convince Barr to do it.
If he thought that it was actually a possibility, he would go on the show and be like, I'm talking to Bill Barr right now.
If you don't do this before the election, we're going to do the whole thing.
But on this one, he's just like, yeah, man!
unidentified
Duh!
dan friesen
Yeah, he would probably have one of his weirdo friends come on and talk about how they have inside information about the indictments or something.
William Binney would come on and say some shit.
jordan holmes
Easy.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're probably right.
You're probably right that that is a fingerprint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, anyway, Jordan, like I said, we'll be back on Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
And, again, I appreciate everybody being cool.
And, yeah.
Back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we will.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on...
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you like to download the show, please write, leave a review, and then find a local charity or bail fund in your area and help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the Juiciest Ice Cube, and Daryl Rundis.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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