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Oct. 5, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#489: October 2-4, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex Jones is handling the news that Donald Trump has tested positive for Covid-19. It was a strange weekend for everyone, but few as strange as Alex, starting in denial on Friday and ending up crying on air on Sunday.

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alex jones
18:58
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dan friesen
52:50
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jordan holmes
26:47
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greg reese
01:58
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carrie madej
00:48
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jon bowne
00:40
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lee in texas
00:15
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge Fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
Jordan.
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Well, my bright spot today, Jordan, it kind of goes along with the...
Let's say the new recording setup.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's got me kind of inspired a bit about the potential of things, and I've started working on something that I don't want to reveal too much about, but I'm very reinvigorated by.
jordan holmes
Wow, that's wonderful.
dan friesen
In terms of a lot of the stuff that we talk about, like how boring Alex is in the present day and stuff, I have found something that is tickling my interest bone, let's say.
And so I guess this is kind of teasy.
jordan holmes
So your bright spot is mystery, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, a little bit.
But I feel like I found a direction I want to go down.
I'm very excited about that.
And there will be more details about that forthcoming soon.
How about you?
jordan holmes
I have a bit of a mix of a bright spot, dark spot.
So I told you.
My bright spot previously down the road, getting my partner a good birthday gift.
unidentified
Oh, oh.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
I was so worried this was about things going bad with the dog.
jordan holmes
Dog's great.
She's doing perfectly.
She's beautiful.
She's smiling and happy.
She played all day today.
dan friesen
Okay, cool.
jordan holmes
No, so I did.
I got her a good gift.
I got her a tennis racket.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It was a good tennis racket.
dan friesen
You guys played tennis a lot?
jordan holmes
We played tennis a lot, and I gave it to her early, right?
Because her birthday's in the fall, so who knows?
We might not be able to play, you know?
dan friesen
Tennis is seasonal.
jordan holmes
But what I had in my back pocket was that on her birthday...
I had scheduled a fruit arrangement to be delivered.
dan friesen
Edible arrangement situation.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Chocolate dipped pineapple.
jordan holmes
100% chocolate dipped strawberries this time.
So it was going to show up on her birthday.
She was like, oh my god, you already gave me your birthday.
It was going to be great.
It was going to be fantastic.
dan friesen
I like how that's how you imagine it going.
jordan holmes
That's how I imagine it going.
dan friesen
I know both of you, and I don't think that's how it would have gone.
jordan holmes
It would have gone exactly like that.
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
jordan holmes
Surprise!
Oh my god, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened.
dan friesen
Oh, Jordan, you're the best.
It's chocolate fruit.
jordan holmes
It's 100% going to be the best.
dan friesen
Okay, whatever.
jordan holmes
But then, on Friday night, somebody rang the doorbell and I went up and it was the guy delivering the thing.
Not her birthday.
No.
And I looked at it, I grabbed it, and I looked down and it had the correct date on it.
dan friesen
Right, it should have been delivered.
jordan holmes
When it should have been delivered.
Mm-hmm.
On top of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I just looked at the guy and went, uh, and he was like, all right, man, good job, and then just left into the middle of the night.
dan friesen
You texted me about this complaining, and I berated you.
jordan holmes
So mad.
dan friesen
About how I don't understand.
The guy got it there early.
jordan holmes
You don't get it.
dan friesen
Just hide it.
unidentified
It's supposed to be.
jordan holmes
It's the gesture and the symbolism.
dan friesen
Dan!
And it's perishable?
jordan holmes
That is a big issue.
It is now no longer going to survive to the birthday.
dan friesen
Well, the good news is that you two have been together long enough that it probably is a situation where you can get around the uncomfortableness.
jordan holmes
It was fantastic.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's good.
At least it isn't a thing where it could actually...
Cause a fight.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
unidentified
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Although I'm sure it did.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
She loved it.
It was amazing.
dan friesen
That's great.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm happy that the birthday present thing worked out and everything.
jordan holmes
Yes, it was all right.
dan friesen
Speaking of all right, Jordan.
jordan holmes
All right, Dan.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Today we got an episode.
jordan holmes
Is it all right?
dan friesen
It's all right.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So today we're going to be talking about October 2nd through 4th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
Oh, God damn it.
dan friesen
Checking in over the weekend, because I think there was news that rocked the world.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
What was it?
There was...
Oh, no, no, no.
The book drop nearby my place.
It's shutting down.
dan friesen
No, that's not the news.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Unfortunately, Larry Nichols has passed away.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
He did pass.
That is a tragic moment.
dan friesen
The world will never be the same.
jordan holmes
That's true.
He's fighting witches in heaven now.
dan friesen
I feel real weird about that because, I mean, I was aware that he was probably going to die soon.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So when I heard, when someone tweeted at me like an obituary for him, I wasn't surprised because I had been trying to like...
Find a way to do a Wacky Wednesday about his YouTube channel.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because he's got a YouTube channel.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's just trash.
Most of the stuff was awful.
But lately, there had been some stuff about him being in the hospital.
And I was like, I don't even want...
I don't know if I believe it, and I don't...
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I had checked in on him not too long ago, and it was that same thing.
But as is the case with Larry, he's been on death's doorstep for 10 years on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So I never really knew...
I mean, he was one of the most cancerous forces in politics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not in any way celebrating his death or anything, but...
jordan holmes
I think we can trace a lot of the style and bullshit of Project Veritas all the way back to fucking Larry goddamn Nichols.
dan friesen
Yep, and so much of the stuff about Clinton fear comes directly from bullshit he put out.
Yep.
So...
I bring this up because it's huge on some level.
Like, Larry Nichols is a huge force in conservative politics for the last 30 years?
40 years?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He died.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex doesn't bring it up at all.
jordan holmes
It is.
Here's what...
dan friesen
He's Alex's friend.
They've been interviewing Larry Nichols for years.
jordan holmes
Here's the problem, Dan.
It's like if you and I were on the plane with the Big Bopper, all right?
You're gonna get lost in the noose.
You're not gonna be on front page obit, man.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
jordan holmes
You're not the most famous person on the plane right now, Larry.
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
It bums me out.
If only because of, like, the place that he...
Should occupy in Alex's world.
The place that he should occupy there is a celebrated place.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And his passing should be a moment of reflection and recognition as opposed to, I don't even know if it comes up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't.
dan friesen
And that's really sad because he dedicated his life to creating things that Alex could use to demonize his political enemies and now...
So rest in peace, Larry.
jordan holmes
You can never explain to these guys that you are literally a cog in the machine of your own psychopathy.
No one will care when you are gone.
dan friesen
It's a bummer.
jordan holmes
It's a real bummer.
And I guess they all kind of must know that?
dan friesen
Maybe.
Anyway, I didn't mean to get into any of this.
Nah, that's fair.
jordan holmes
You were trying to make a sleight of hand joke about Trump.
dan friesen
I was.
jordan holmes
Here we are now, sad about Larry Nichols.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well executed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway.
Before we get into today's show, let's take a moment to say thanks to some folks who signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
So first, Kenneth B., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Kenneth.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Neils L., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Neils.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Patricia K., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Patricia.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Andrew L., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Andrew.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, James R., thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, James.
dan friesen
Next, Megan D. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Megan!
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to give a shout-out to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first, Nikhil, S-N-I-K-H-I-L.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
Pekka K, P-E-K-K-A, last initial K. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Aaron, but one A is silent.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Nikkel.
Thank you so much, Pekka.
Thank you so much, Aaron.
But one A is silent.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to all of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support these gents too, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefait.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it, or...
jordan holmes
What you could do is you could take an order for your generosity.
Alright, hang on to it.
It's supposed to be delivered later.
But let me tell you something.
You are too good.
You care too much.
So you're going to take that generosity.
You're going to deliver it fully.
Way too early.
And it's going to work out well.
I'm trying to do the tie it together with the bright spot thing.
dan friesen
No, I got that.
jordan holmes
Have you not gotten this?
dan friesen
No, I got that.
jordan holmes
Your fury at me the moment I start talking is so disappointing.
dan friesen
Because it's two one to one.
jordan holmes
What are you...
What do you mean it's too one-to-one?
unidentified
It's too simple.
jordan holmes
It's too simple.
What do I need from you?
Something complex.
dan friesen
Something interesting.
All right.
The way this generosity gets to the charity should be something interesting.
jordan holmes
Here's what I'm going to do.
dan friesen
Not just, oh, I got a package too early.
unidentified
Here's what I'm going to do.
jordan holmes
I'm just going to take transcripts of your older ones and I'll just read those to you.
unidentified
What do you fucking do?
jordan holmes
Would that make you feel better?
dan friesen
Yeah, because those were gold.
jordan holmes
Because those were gold.
dan friesen
Yes.
Do that.
jordan holmes
All right.
I like it.
I think we're doing great with this bit.
dan friesen
Most likely.
jordan holmes
I think the meta aspect of this bit is way better than I've ever been thinking execution.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, obviously, when I said that the big news was that Larry Nichols has passed, that was, of course, a goof on the fact that Trump got COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And the real fun thing about doing our show is that we recorded on Thursday, and I'm sitting here editing, la la la, this episode that I took forever to prepare about the debates.
jordan holmes
We did a lot of work.
dan friesen
And then as I'm editing news breaks that Trump got a positive test for COVID, and I'm like, well, fuck me.
Now I don't get a weekend.
Now we should do an emergency episode.
And thankfully we didn't do that, because there wouldn't be.
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah, instantly.
jordan holmes
The debate has gone from everyone's mind forever.
dan friesen
So we're recording this on Sunday evening, and who knows what will be the reality we're in by Monday.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
When you're listening to this...
Something might have happened we don't know about.
jordan holmes
Look, if Trump dies at 3 a.m.
Monday morning and you listen to our episode hoping to hear what Alex has got to say, buddy, I'm sorry.
dan friesen
We'll talk to you on Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
We don't know yet.
jordan holmes
This isn't live.
dan friesen
So Alex, I think in obvious fashion, recognizes on Friday, on October 2nd, when he gets into the studio.
Well, that's not the right way to put it.
But as soon as he starts the show, he's got to bring it up.
alex jones
It's Friday, October 2nd.
The year is 2020.
We are 32 days out from the election.
The deep state Democrats have said they will contest.
And they will try to drive the country into civil war, balkanization, and even secession.
And right on time, we learned that President Trump has tested positive for COVID-19.
And so has his wife, Melania.
dan friesen
So he's phasing this head-on, at least.
jordan holmes
Has anybody checked to see how Pachanik is taking the news that Melania has COVID?
dan friesen
He's got to be over...
jordan holmes
He's got to be really struggling.
dan friesen
So worried.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Steve does not come into play on this episode.
All right.
These three days of time...
No Steve update, no Roger.
Nothing really...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I suppose you can't have those guys on.
You might get too crazy.
Now's the time!
They infected the president and now we've got to shoot everyone!
dan friesen
No, the president's at Walter Reed Hospital.
jordan holmes
Now is the time to take the White House.
That's what Steve would say.
dan friesen
That would be dangerous.
jordan holmes
We gather 40 or 50 good men, then we rule this country with an iron fist.
dan friesen
I don't need a State Department.
I don't...
Okay, okay, Steve.
So Alex says one of his big things is like, I called it.
I knew this was going to happen.
alex jones
Now let's talk about this.
Many times I have said that one scenario would be the president getting COVID-19 near...
The election date, and they could use that to try to put him under house arrest.
How can the president, again, be put under quarantine and made to stay in one spot for 14 days?
It's simply outrageous, and it's part of the paralyzation of our economy, where one person has COVID-19 in a meatpacking plant or a warehouse, and they shut the whole thing down.
dan friesen
So Alex had to dig up a clip from six months past of him saying that they might give Trump COVID, but it had nothing to do with, like, near the election or anything.
I've listened to this show.
Pretty consistently.
And I don't think that...
I would characterize that as one of Alex's big theories.
I think that he might be giving himself a little bit too much credit for saying everything.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, six months ago I speculated that Trump might get COVID and now, aha, I'm right.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
No!
jordan holmes
Considering the number and volume of theories that I have thrown at the wall, I'm pretty stoked that I got this one six months ago.
That makes it sound like I knew what I was talking about this whole time.
dan friesen
Didn't repeat it.
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Never needed to come up again.
dan friesen
So there's one approach that Alex is taking on Friday, and I think it's a little bit sad, but it is what it is.
alex jones
No one else asked this question as of us publishing this about an hour ago.
No one.
I searched it.
I got up at 4.30 this morning.
My phone was ringing off the hook.
I'd gone to sleep last night, had missed Trump's tweet at like 11.55 that he and Melania had tested positive, supposedly, for COVID-19.
I wake up at 4.30, my phone is loaded with text messages and calls saying, President Trump and Melania have COVID-19.
No, they've tested positive for it.
So I searched, hey, is it a false positive?
No one even asked that question until Paul Joseph Watson and I put this article out on Infowars.com, which is scary because, remember, you'd hear whole football teams had it and it was all false positives?
dan friesen
So, that's his first go-to.
It's really interesting.
Like, okay, what if it's fake?
No one's talking about whether or not this is a fake.
It's the fucking president.
jordan holmes
No one's talking about whether or not this is a false positive because people understand the science and I don't, so I'm asking the questions that no one would ask unless they have no idea.
Please, somebody tell me what's going on.
Is the president going to die?
dan friesen
I hope he's not going to die.
This is the first volley.
This is a false positive.
Then you can make up your own sort of theory as to what's going on from there.
Trump's not actually sick.
Okay, I don't know.
jordan holmes
So why would you give him a false positive?
dan friesen
Well, this theory might develop as the show goes along.
Okay.
I don't want to ruin any...
jordan holmes
I'm going to need some more explanation for why this would make sense.
dan friesen
Well, Alex has that information that you need.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And it's the information that the world needs.
Okay.
alex jones
We're 32 days out from the election.
And we've got exclusive Beyond Bombshell, game-changing, world-event-defining, chill-up-and-down-the-back-of-your-spine-level information if people will just listen to me.
And if we can just get Tucker Carlson to talk about this.
In Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and Senator Cruz and Senator Paul, especially a medical doctor, we can save America and the world.
dan friesen
We can save America and the world if everyone will just sound like me.
jordan holmes
Dan, is he?
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's silly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Is he recording from a bunker?
Did he make the decision to go to the bunker?
dan friesen
It's interesting that you're asking that because he is not in studio.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think I can tell that.
dan friesen
You can tell from the audio.
He's at home.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Take a little work from home day.
dan friesen
Well, it's weird.
He's at home for the first half hour of the show.
jordan holmes
What did you say to me?
dan friesen
Then David Knight and Owen Schroyer take over, and then at the end of the second hour, Alex shows up at the studio and does the show until Nick Baggich takes over in the fourth hour.
It's very weird.
I don't know what's going on.
jordan holmes
I guess you just can't show up 30 minutes late for your show.
You can show up two hours late for your show.
dan friesen
My big theory is that Alex was going to take the day off.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he woke up.
jordan holmes
And the president died.
dan friesen
Well, the president had COVID.
He woke up at like 10.30 or something like that.
He didn't have time to get to the studio by the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so he called in to do the beginning of the show, then drove in.
That's my theory.
jordan holmes
That's what had to have happened.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems like it makes the most sense.
He would have taken the day off for sure if this news hadn't broken.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he's like, fuck, I gotta go in on my day off.
This isn't one of these big pieces of news that I can just let David and Owen cover.
I actually have to come in.
jordan holmes
That's pretty true.
dan friesen
So the bottom line, though, is this is a false positive, baby.
alex jones
Listen to me very, very, very, very carefully.
jordan holmes
How carefully?
alex jones
Not only do we have proof that this is almost certainly a false positive, and I'll present it in a moment.
Then, if we don't get Trump to understand that, and if he goes the Boris Johnson victim route and plays along with it, it will only help intensify the lockdown.
dan friesen
So, Alex has this proof that this test is almost certainly a false positive.
jordan holmes
He's at home.
He's not even in the office.
Where is he going to get this fucking proof from?
dan friesen
Infowars.com, man.
Tons of headlines.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
I apologize.
dan friesen
Tons of headlines.
jordan holmes
That's on me.
That was on me.
unidentified
Just search proof COVID.
dan friesen
So the proof that he provides is exactly that.
It's just a bunch of headlines.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
Chinese state media gloats about Trump catching coronavirus, but really what he did is he got tested with something that...
Let's say if nine times out of ten you won the lottery, you didn't really win.
Would them announcing you won the lottery mean you won if nine times out of ten it turned out it wasn't a win?
See?
You'd be like, oh, no.
They've got a 10% chance of winning the lottery.
It's the same thing here.
It's total fraud, ladies and gentlemen.
9% chance it's a false positive.
But where's the talk of more tests?
It's the president.
We want more tests.
We want a blood test.
We want it now.
jordan holmes
They did so many tests.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But thanks, Alex, for demanding more tests.
jordan holmes
Alex's world, all of the doctors at Walter Reed Medical Center are all like, well, we did one test.
Now we just gotta watch.
Now we just gotta wait.
dan friesen
He's the president of the country.
We kinda did a test.
Ridiculous.
jordan holmes
So funny.
dan friesen
So 90% of tests are false positives.
And Alex sort of connects this.
I don't know where he's getting that information from.
But he does connect it to a specific story.
And I think this might be what it's all based on.
alex jones
Continuing.
Connecticut State Lab finds 90% false positives out of 144 coronavirus tests administered in mid-June.
I just have dozens of articles.
dan friesen
So Alex is lying about that headline.
The actual headline is, quote, Connecticut State Lab finds 90 positive COVID-19 tests were false.
This was out of 144 tests that were done at a specific lab during the span of June 15th to July 17th, and 90 of them turned out to be false positives, not 90%.
90 out of 144 is 62.5%, which is still high, but Alex doesn't know any of the details of this story.
This has to do with a lab testing procedure that this lab began operating in June 15th, which led to a lot of false positives.
When doing validation of the results, they found this high level of false positivity and immediately went to work on reviewing and correcting what was going wrong in their process.
This wasn't something that Alex and his intrepid patriot journalists dug up or something that anyone was trying to hide.
It was discovered by the lab when they were doing quality control, and it was reported by the mainstream media, which is how Alex knows about it.
The true version of this story doesn't call into question the validity of COVID-19 testing.
It just highlights a part of the scientific process, where double and triple checking things can sometimes find errors in the way things are done, and then the way things are done can be improved.
Only the fake version of this story supports Alex's conspiracies, which is why it's the only version he knows.
In the real world, you can find a write-up from the Harvard Medical School which explains that PCR tests, which are obviously what Trump has got, have false positive rates close to zero.
There are some concerns about false negatives, but the reason that the test is considered like the gold standard for diagnosis is because they're very precise when they're done correctly.
The false positive rate should come close to zero.
Most false positive results are thought to be due to lab contamination or other problems with how the lab has performed the test, not limitations of the test itself.
A recent paper in Lancet discussed the issue of false positivity with COVID-19 testing, saying, quote, The current rate of operational false positive swab tests in the UK is unknown.
Preliminary estimates show it could be somewhere between 0.8% and 4%.
That's still a significant figure if you consider the scale of testing that's being done, but it's a far cry from what Alex is suggesting.
To give you some context about how nuts it is for Alex to say there's a false positivity rate of 90%, the FDA put out a warning about a line of tests produced by BD back in July after a study suggested that 3% of their tests could be false positives based on concerns about the reagents that were used.
The FDA, quote, This was because of a concern about a 3% false positivity rate.
What Alex is talking about is completely disconnected from reality.
There's just nothing to that.
jordan holmes
You know, it's like when you want to compromise with somebody and you're on different ends of the spectrum.
What you really want to find out is you only need to change like 55%.
You're almost equal.
You're almost there.
But when reality is at literally 90%...
And unreality is, or inverse that, like reality is 3% and you're at 90%, we're never coming close.
dan friesen
It seems tough.
jordan holmes
It's never coming to even.
dan friesen
It seems like making headway with Alex would be getting him to admit, all right, 85. Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll compromise.
It's 95%.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You're going backwards.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Am I going backwards?
I thought I was going forwards.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is supposed to be a list of headlines that are...
Proving that Trump probably has a false positive test.
Sure.
And then this gets thrown in.
alex jones
California will soon be paying $1,350 to people who test positive for coronavirus.
That just incentivizes this whole damn thing.
dan friesen
What does that have to do with anything?
You're just mad at a state giving money to people who have to shelter.
jordan holmes
They're lying and they're trying to kill the president.
Also, some folks are going to get like $1,250.
I can't be cool with that.
The president is dying and they're lying about it and they're killing him.
But seriously, people are going to get $1,250?
dan friesen
Come on, man.
The state of California is talking about giving this money to people who have to quarantine in order to help them be able to survive.
jordan holmes
And not spread the disease.
dan friesen
Obviously means that they're gonna go out trying to get coronavirus because they want that $12.50.
jordan holmes
That's the only thing that makes sense to me, Dan.
dan friesen
So weird.
This thinking is so backwards and twisted.
But it's weird that that headline is in this stack that Alex is using to prove that Trump's diagnostic test was a false positive, which is weird, and it shows that he didn't prepare at all.
No.
jordan holmes
He's still at home.
dan friesen
He's cold reading a stack of headlines.
It's very sad.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
alex jones
Three.
Titans players, five personal test pods for COVID-19 suspend in-person activities.
And then, of course, it turned out they didn't really have COVID-19.
dan friesen
So this is another headline.
This one is really offensive.
The story about the Tennessee Titans players and staff who tested positive for COVID-19 only broke on September 29th.
And as far as I can tell, none of them have been shown to be false positives.
I strongly suspect that Alex is just making that up because he just cold read this headline about people testing positive for the virus.
And he kind of realized that this is supposed to be about the testing being fake.
Not about how people are getting sick.
Yeah.
unidentified
By October 2nd, the day that Alex is recording this episode, the Associated Press was reporting that the outbreak in the Titans organization was now up to 18 people testing positive, along with players on the Patriots.
dan friesen
and Chiefs who had to postpone their scheduled game this weekend.
The reality of the story, unsurprisingly, appears to be the exact opposite of what Alex is reporting.
As opposed to this being a case where they're all shown to be false positive results, it looks like the initial headlines about eight people testing positive were only the beginning.
jordan holmes
Well, you think he's wrong.
90% of the time.
But he thinks he's wrong about 3% of the time.
So I think you guys can get to a compromise here pretty soon.
dan friesen
I think we're in a classic pickle.
jordan holmes
I think that could be difficult, yeah.
dan friesen
So you might be asking, like, okay, what's the game with the false positive?
jordan holmes
That is a good question.
I would like to know the motivation behind this clearly insane act.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you know how the president drinks a lot of soda?
alex jones
There have been all these coup plans by people in the White House.
You had Mattis trying to organize a coup.
And I said all along, one way to do it with this COVID-19 is to give him a false positive test.
They can then poison his Diet Coke or something.
He gets really sick, and they said it's COVID-19.
So I would also advise the Secret Service to be extra diligent about...
What the president ingest.
dan friesen
Alex, you're going into reruns.
They already poisoned his Diet Cokes.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, I was just writing down, like, this is from 2016?
Or no, 2017?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
This was when Roger Stone and Alex were like, they're going to kill the president.
They're poisoning his Diet Cokes.
dan friesen
They were trying to explain why he was speaking weird.
Disoriented.
unidentified
They're putting a slow-acting poison in his Diet Cokes.
dan friesen
His show is in syndication, basically.
But this is, like, breaking news.
jordan holmes
This is huge.
dan friesen
You can't go back to the well.
No, no.
You need something new.
jordan holmes
This is boring.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And honestly, I was looking at some of the comments on band.video for this and his video that he put out on Saturday, and a lot of them were like, grow up, Alex.
unidentified
A lot of them were pretty harsh.
jordan holmes
That's very funny.
What are you doing?
That's very funny.
dan friesen
I think he might be close to reaching a breaking point with the audience.
This is absurd.
This is silly.
Okay, so the conspiracy is they gave him a false positive test in order to have cover, in order to poison his Diet Cokes again.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
What?
They didn't need to do that the last time they poisoned his Diet Coke?
jordan holmes
Well, it didn't work last time.
Maybe the problem was they didn't have a good enough cover for it.
dan friesen
Jordan, I would suggest it didn't work last time because it didn't happen last time.
jordan holmes
You can suggest that all you want, but I am 3% positive you are right.
dan friesen
Okay.
Alex has got to go.
alex jones
In closing, before Owen Schroyer and David Knight take over with the critical proof and analysis...
You've got three days and a few hours to go to preparewithalex.com to get $300 off on a six-month supply of the highest quality food.
dan friesen
Got to try and sell some stuff before I drive into the studio.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
This is so weird.
I mean, like, I don't understand outside of, like...
I woke up at 10.30 and I thought I had the day off.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't understand what scenario could lead you to be able to get to the studio by like 1.45, but not by 11. Like, I don't know what it could be.
It's just...
jordan holmes
I mean, it could be...
I'm not willing to rule out something innocuous like there's something with his kids.
You know?
Somebody's gotta go to school or something.
I don't know.
dan friesen
Sure.
That is a possibility.
Or a meeting he couldn't reschedule.
Maybe he had a meeting with a lawyer or something.
jordan holmes
Lawyer or something like that, for sure.
That's possible.
dan friesen
But even so, a lot of that stuff you can reschedule or you can pay someone to do.
Like, if his kid's got to go to the hospital, he has a wife.
She could take the kid to the hospital.
Trump has COVID.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yeah, but, you know, everybody's still got to make it to the school on time.
dan friesen
It seems like Alex probably got wasted, woke up at 10.30, and was just like, fuck it.
jordan holmes
All right, now you...
You are absolutely describing what I immediately thought was what happened.
dan friesen
Occam's razor tells me Alex woke up at 10.30.
jordan holmes
I was trying to be very generous.
I didn't even bring it up this time.
dan friesen
I mean, who knows?
There's all sorts of possibilities, but only one of them really makes sense.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So Alex does show up at the end of the second hour, and look, man, there's no proof that...
This coronavirus, COVID, with the president?
There's no proof that it was an attack.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But maybe it was.
unidentified
Could be.
alex jones
In its mutations, they've already, in a lab, mutated it because it's engineered, and they know it'll mutate to not be harmful once it's been in its host subject.
But for the first gen, for the first person who breathes it or it's sprayed on, like Trump, it's extremely deadly.
Now, I'm not saying that's what's happened, but Trump could be dead in two days.
jordan holmes
We're all dreaming.
alex jones
People are saying, oh, he staged this to make it look like he's a man of the people.
No, when I found out that Boris Johnson, people that I know that were around, they said he did have trouble breathing and got really sick.
Well, they obviously just sprayed some real weaponized COVID in his face.
dan friesen
Yeah, just sprayed Boris Johnson with some COVID.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right, buddy.
This is a point where even Alex should stop and be like, am I here?
I'm here, aren't I?
People spraying COVID in the Prime Minister's face.
dan friesen
I said it was a false positive when I called in the show earlier.
Now I'm saying it was maybe Trump got sprayed in the face with weaponized COVID.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Or maybe he acted in ways that specifically make you susceptible to catching it if someone is around.
Maybe he did exactly what you would do if you were being not careful about a virus.
jordan holmes
Maybe this is the only logical and inevitable conclusion that his actions have led us to.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
I mean...
dan friesen
You know, it's a situation where you can be careless a thousand times and nothing happens if you're lucky and circumstances are what they are, but that thousand and first time could be the time that you end up getting unlucky.
And when you do...
You're unlucky.
jordan holmes
And if you're at roughly chance 100,444, then yeah, sooner or later, by 1,445, you're gonna get COVID.
dan friesen
And if you're at, like, I don't know, let's say 300, and the previous 299 times you've been fined, that doesn't change anything about the 300th time.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Like, it doesn't change anything about, like...
The odds.
Just because you got lucky every other time does not mean...
jordan holmes
It's been going on black for a while, Dan.
That means it's more likely to land on red this time.
Everybody knows that's how it works.
dan friesen
Wild.
So anyway, there's a couple possibilities of what's going on.
As we've already heard, Alex has a couple.
Maybe false positive.
Maybe they sprayed him in the face.
Maybe someone wanted him to smell his flower that's on his lapel.
jordan holmes
I like that.
I would like a crack team of international clown assassins to have taken out the president.
That would have been nice.
dan friesen
Well, hey, look.
Here's the thing.
This globalist came up to Trump with a seltzer bottle and just sprayed him in the face.
Vaudeville assassination.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex lays out the possibilities here.
And shockingly, Trump is dumb and behaved in a way that you would if you were looking to catch a virus.
That's not one of them.
alex jones
So again, they can poison him and then say COVID killed him.
It could be a false test.
Most of them are false.
And that way he needs another test.
That should be a top story.
Is he being tested again?
Or again, it's a real bioweapon.
And they've already assassinated the president and he's walking dead right now.
And boy, that'll really help with a permanent lockdown, won't it?
dan friesen
Sure.
So these are the three possibilities we've got.
jordan holmes
Honestly, I think it would shorten the lockdown immensely.
dan friesen
So these are the three possibilities we've got.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Either it's assassination or fake test.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Or another assassination.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah, the other one is...
jordan holmes
Two out of three are assassinations.
Yes.
dan friesen
It seems like that's kind of Alex's...
Alex is big into that.
That's kind of what he's pushing.
jordan holmes
It can't be just an asshole who did exactly what...
No!
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It's poison.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
So is Trump having a sympathetic response to a regular cold or flu going around the White House?
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Is it a false test?
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
alex jones
Has he been poisoned?
Will they say he died of COVID?
He dies of something else.
That's how I do it.
That's the easiest way.
You just poison him right after you say he has the positive COVID test.
Because they're going around testing the whole White House all the time.
And so, oh, boom.
Test positive.
Nine out of ten tests are fake.
Now they slip him the synthetic poison that'll cause him to have a heart attack.
It'll metabolize out.
They won't be able to find it in the blood.
But now they're creeping in with the weapons.
Trump could be dead in hours, if that's the scenario.
dan friesen
Alright.
He's writing a spy novel.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say.
dan friesen
That's fun, but...
jordan holmes
Whenever Alex says, that's what I would do, it's like, that's why you would be caught months in advance.
dan friesen
Immediately.
You would be caught like that Elvis impersonator who tried to send Rison to pin it on his friend.
Yeah, totally.
So Alex gets into...
You know how I started this show with my bright spot was kind of a tease?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Looks like Alex is in a teasy mood, too.
alex jones
We've got...
The strangest of the things happened to me today, and I have to leave it at that.
I got some really interesting information from a very high level today, and I'm not able to give you where the information came from, but it's one of the reasons that I was not on air in the last hour.
And this is incredible information, and I think when I start the next hour, I'm going to get to as much of this as I can, but I'm almost speechless right now.
He's trying to digest all of this as best I can.
We'll be right back, Infowars.com.
dan friesen
Least favorite genre of Alex Jones is the I Have Big Bombshell News, which actually explains why I was an hour and 40 minutes late.
jordan holmes
We're going to get into it.
We're going to get into it.
dan friesen
We're totally going to get into it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Huge news.
dan friesen
I can't tell you where it came from.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
But it's high level.
It's big.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We'll get into it.
jordan holmes
I like whenever he's telling excuses.
He's telling, like, extravagant lies for why he's late to his bosses, the audience.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
Like, he's just...
No, no, no.
Okay, so I was trying to get here on time.
dan friesen
Trust me, Alex.
jordan holmes
I swear to God.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
They'll put up with it.
jordan holmes
I was trying to get here on time.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
I was trying.
Just hear me out.
dan friesen
I need you all to really believe that I'm trying.
jordan holmes
So there was a bicycle, but, like, one of those 1912 ones riding in front of me while I was driving my car, and then what do you...
You know, the guy throws a little milkshake at me, and we get into an old-timey fight.
dan friesen
It turns out he's a globalist.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Turns out he's David Rockefeller.
jordan holmes
And he's the one who killed the president.
dan friesen
David Rockefeller got some stem cells, and now he's riding around in a...
He's not really dead.
Everyone says he's dead.
He's not really dead.
He's riding around on an old recumbent bicycle.
And he throws milkshakes at Patriots, and then you gotta fight.
You gotta fight.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and so I'm late.
I'm sorry.
Who among you would not do the same thing?
dan friesen
Look, it's the cross I bear.
So, Alex comes back from break, and he's got some interesting thoughts about the media's coverage of Trump and his sickness.
alex jones
We've got President Trump supposedly with coronavirus, and he's got a little bit of a cold, a little bit lethargic, they're saying in the media.
Trump hasn't really confirmed that.
They're showing a few stills of him walking yesterday and saying, oh, look, he looks tired there.
You can do that with any...
Still as you want, but...
dan friesen
Alex knows that, because that's what he does.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, you can do that.
dan friesen
Smash cut to every single time he's done something about Biden or Hillary.
alex jones
Oh my god, they're about to die!
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex, you know that game pretty well.
That's why you can see it.
So, Alex has a guest, who's not Steve Pachanek, who's not Roger Stone.
It's...
Someone named Dr. Carrie Madej.
I don't remember how to pronounce her name.
Anyway, she's a doctor, osteopath, I believe, who believes that vaccines are all evil.
She made a viral video, and so Alex is hanging out with her.
Here's a little taste of what she's bringing to the table.
carrie madej
I've studied vaccines since my early 20s because I was very concerned about them.
I like to say that vaccines are not what we think they are.
And a little story, just to give some of your listeners some history of vaccines.
The tetanus vaccine, when I studied that, there's a long story behind that.
But it turns out, really, it's an abortion vaccine.
jordan holmes
Whoa!
dan friesen
Turns out it's not.
jordan holmes
Holy cow!
dan friesen
Yep, good research.
jordan holmes
That jumped.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Woo!
dan friesen
So, this Carrie, she...
Has some interesting ideas.
Obviously, vaccines, evil.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There are a bunch of different vaccines that are being developed and are possible candidates for...
Coronavirus or COVID-19.
And Carrie believes that there's only one.
And Alex seems to believe that too.
And it's going to be something that changes you into a genetically modified organism.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
It will change your DNA.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they're doing that because this thing that it will change or whatever they're putting into you is patented.
Here, listen to this.
unidentified
Okay.
You know, we can actually patent.
carrie madej
A gene or a genome of something that's synthetic.
So technically, when we are getting a piece or this vaccine, and if it does become permanent within our genome, it's synthetic.
That part of us can be patented and owned.
People need to understand this because patents have owners who would own us, who would own part of us.
unidentified
This is insane.
dan friesen
So basically the theory goes that this vaccine would change your DNA.
So let's just imagine it's just like, okay, it changes the DNA of your arm.
And now Monsanto owns your arm.
jordan holmes
I gave you that strand of DNA and I can take it away from you.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's the theory.
jordan holmes
I do like that.
dan friesen
I would say...
I don't think it works that way.
jordan holmes
I like that as a new...
I'm sick of the sovereign citizens with the capital letters.
Capital letters sound stupid.
If you say that the government owns part of your DNA, now I'm listening.
Now we're talking sovereign citizen shit right here.
Just remove your own DNA and then the government can't own you.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
See, that's science.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex, shockingly, when he called into the show, it worked totally fine.
unidentified
You know...
alex jones
Her Skype broke up.
We're going to come back to her.
dan friesen
Yeah, I did.
unidentified
Yeah, I did.
dan friesen
Every day.
jordan holmes
Every single time.
dan friesen
Every single day.
So her Skype breaks up in the middle of talking about these vaccine trials on animals.
They were having, like, really, you know, in the past, they'd had these positive results for this type of vaccine.
But then whenever they got a challenge test, that's when the Skype cuts out.
So Alex decides, like, I'm going to pick up on this.
I'm going to pretend that this was my secret bombshell news.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is amazing.
This is Alex right here, man.
alex jones
You know, her Skype broke up.
We're going to come back to her.
And I should have opened the show up with this.
Because when they did the challenge test, it caused a horrible autoimmune response to whatever the outside pathogen was.
And that is exactly the information I came into receipt of today.
Serendipity.
Synchronicity.
unidentified
Providence?
alex jones
What have I told you?
I ran into the head scientist at one of the major biotech labs.
Didn't know who he was, found out, researched what he was saying, and it was all true.
And what did he tell me?
He told me a lot.
What does the information tell me?
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
dan friesen
This is some Alex Jones bullshit right here.
jordan holmes
What did he tell me?
dan friesen
He's teased that he has some top-secret, top-level information, and the reason that he wasn't on the show earlier is because he was receiving the super-important bombshell information.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
He doesn't say or even hint what the actual secret news is, but then, when his guest Skype connection drops off right in the middle of her making a sensational claim, Alex piggybacks that and claims that that was actually his secret news all along.
jordan holmes
It sure does seem.
dan friesen
Now, let's track exactly what Alex is claiming here.
In order for his story to make any...
I guess this morning, Alex randomly met the head scientist of a biotech company, but didn't know that this guy was the head of a biotech company.
This person presumably knew who Alex was, and told Alex that the COVID-19 vaccine causes a severe autoimmune response to general coronaviruses, at which point Alex researched the information, found out it's true, and I guess in the process realized that the guy was the head scientist of a giant biotech company?
Researching these claims made it so Alex couldn't get to work on time, I guess, even though he would have known that Trump had COVID and he couldn't possibly take the day off as soon as he woke up.
Then Alex calls into his show and does the first half hour without mentioning this big secret news that he got from a big wig in the biotech field.
jordan holmes
He wanted to confirm it as true.
dan friesen
Well, he must have done that already.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
Then he shows up to the studio, presumably having just done a real deep dive into this vaccine and the autoimmune situation, but still doesn't see the point in bringing it up until his guest Skype connects.
jordan holmes
He didn't want to steal her thunder, Dan.
He didn't want to steal her thunder.
Look, when you bring somebody on to drop a bombshell story, you can't undercut them.
dan friesen
It's remarkable the way he does this.
You see this from time to time, but it's not always as explicit as this.
When he does the fake setup of huge bombshell news, and then something will come up.
Later in the show, that's actually what my big news was.
jordan holmes
That's better than whatever it was I was going to make up when it was time for me to lie about it.
So I'm going to use that one.
dan friesen
Or, if I don't come up with something that I want to lie about and say is the big news, I can just say, I'll get to it tomorrow.
I've got to digest this.
It's just too big.
It's too big.
He does this quite regularly, and it's pretty impressive.
jordan holmes
It's a nice cheat.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's got this fake doctor who's...
Working at the biotech company who's told him all this stuff.
And now this is interesting because Alex has a conspiracy about this imagined COVID-19 vaccine.
This is improv right here.
I am almost certain that Alex is coming up with this on the spot.
jordan holmes
Okay, this is off the dome.
dan friesen
You can see the wheels turning in his head.
alex jones
If you take a vaccine for COVID-19, its main platform is a regular cold virus with a bunch of stuff stacked onto it.
Genetic traits stacked on.
It's called stacking.
dan friesen
It's plumping.
alex jones
If you do that, and then your body learns to have an autoimmune response to that particular virus, it's so broad, you will now have an autoimmune response to the regular coronavirus that's so common it's everywhere, making it where you can't even go outside because you'll get so sick from regular cold viruses.
And so they're trying to get rid of your immunity to the cold virus.
But not just your immunity, they're trying to make it where you're allergic to it, which is what killed most of the people in the Spanish flu, was they were allergic to the virus, not that it was actually replicating and killing them.
They had an autoimmune response.
And this is so diabolical, and the scientist was breaking down the fact that, and this is so critical, the scientist was breaking down the point that that's why they can't get an immunity with COVID patients and why it comes back, because it's so weak.
The body doesn't even see it as a threat and won't create immunity to it.
So they have to soup it up and add things to the vaccine that you're also allergic to so you have an autoimmune response to both with the adjuvant.
But then just like they used to grow vaccines on peanuts, so suddenly kids that ate peanuts would die because their body saw that as an outside pathogen because they'd been given it in the flu shot or whatever it was they got when they were younger.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
That wasn't why he was late this morning.
That was just bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds made up.
dan friesen
But yeah, you can see the little details he's trying to pull in as he goes through the conspiracy.
jordan holmes
He must have smiled at the end of that and been like, how did I pull that 1918 flu out and then throw some bullshit about that's how it killed people?
I don't know anything about the 1918 flu.
What am I talking about?
dan friesen
He's like some skater who lands a trick the first try.
It's like, how'd I do that?
So anyway, this doctor that he is talking to is interviewing.
I mean, they've got to get her back.
Sure.
Sure, Skype went out, but this is an important interview.
She has a viral video.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But we're joined by Dr. Carrie Madej here, and I really appreciate her coming on.
She's a medical doctor, and she had Skype cut out.
Never happens.
Then her phone cut out.
That was crazy.
And with all the internet censorship and tech even getting into private messages now and censoring, I mean, who knows?
They probably are doing that because they've been censoring doctors across the board.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's probably censorship.
It never happens on your show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's only one explanation.
dan friesen
Never, ever happens on Infowars.
Tech issues, Skype problems, never, never happen.
jordan holmes
Dan, by your own logic earlier, just because it's not censorship a hundred times doesn't mean that the hundred and first time isn't censorship.
dan friesen
It's not the same logic.
I appreciate what you're trying to do, but it doesn't work.
So we got to get this doctor back on, man.
We got to get her to work.
Get the Skype to work.
Got to get her to spout her truth.
alex jones
I mean, it just makes...
Your head spin, they want in our bodies, and then we learn what they're doing is guinea-pigging and changes our DNA and makes us this new creature.
This is like an alien takeover.
I mean, whether aliens are real on another planet, Bill Gates thinks he's a god who wants to have this genetic revolution over us.
Where do you think this is all going, Doctor?
Her Skype's frozen again.
Let's go ahead and play the full clip of Pelosi.
dan friesen
Yeah, this never happens.
Never happens.
jordan holmes
It had censorship for you.
dan friesen
It had total censorship.
jordan holmes
Now we're going to play this incredibly terrible audio of Nancy Pelosi in some lying fashion about her.
dan friesen
So we get back to the doctor because they're going to give it another shot.
And she has a theory about a magical app.
That will control everything.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And it will know all your med levels in your body and all your vitals and every single thing about you.
unidentified
And this will be done through the smartphone, through the health app that you have.
If you look on your health app, you'll find drop-downs.
lee in texas
If you really look at subcategories, it tells you how many times you've had sex, how many times you've brushed your teeth.
unidentified
The medicines in your body, the illicit drugs in your body, everything about you is known.
Your emotions are known.
So everything that you're doing would be transmitted to your cell phone, which would go into the cloud and some AI connection.
lee in texas
And then if it wasn't the kind of behavior deemed worthy or good for society, for the good of the whole, there would be repercussions.
jordan holmes
Oh, she's getting censored again.
alex jones
Yeah, and again, I see her do interviews all the time.
Her Skype's being cut off.
Her phone's being cut off.
She's not doing this on purpose.
This is the next level of it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's the next level of the censorship as opposed to just a bad connection.
jordan holmes
That's quietly a very dark thing for him to have said.
I see her doing interviews all the time.
unidentified
It's him deep down being like, this is us.
jordan holmes
This is us.
dan friesen
Something on our end because it happens.
All the fucking time.
jordan holmes
She's done interviews over and over and over again.
dan friesen
Or it could be a combination of both.
I don't know exactly what it is, but it's definitely not censorship.
It's you guys being fucking incompetent.
Anyway, Alex decides four tries is a little much.
jordan holmes
That's too much.
dan friesen
So let's just complain about Michael Moore.
alex jones
Michael Moore says evil genius Trump could be lying about having COVID to postpone the election.
Trump's going to win the election.
It's Democrats that want to postpone it with mail-in ballots saying months and months and then it'll never be decided.
So see, if you have any intelligence, you know Democrats do the mail-in ballots.
They want a lockdown.
They say they're going to contest no matter what.
They know they're losing.
They want 20th Amendment.
That's their plan.
He comes out and says Trump's fake.
He's not sick.
He wants to hold off the election.
jordan holmes
You said he's not sick.
Look at that man.
alex jones
Would you let him babysit your children?
How about he and Brian Stelter pull up to your house as contact tracers?
Oh, sorry, you didn't submit to the inoculations.
We're taking your children.
You know, your children are going to have a good, good time with Uncle Stelter and Uncle Moore.
dan friesen
I don't think they need that gig.
They're both...
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
They're doing all right for themselves.
dan friesen
Don't need to be contact racers.
jordan holmes
They're doing okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is that some sort of community service?
Did they get arrested for something recently?
dan friesen
It's really weird that Alex is saying that there's a false positive test.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he's mad at Michael Moore being like...
jordan holmes
What an asshole for saying that this isn't a real positive.
dan friesen
You guys just both have weird conspiracies about what's going on, motivated by slightly different levels of distrust.
jordan holmes
Both of you guys should calm it down.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this episode, this Friday episode ends, and that's where we're at, basically.
jordan holmes
That's a big dud.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a big dud.
dan friesen
Serious problem.
Alex should have just taken the day off.
jordan holmes
Taken the day off.
dan friesen
He could have done that half hour at the beginning and been totally fine.
There was no reason that Owen couldn't interview the vax lady.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It would have been totally fine.
I think that it was weak from the perspective of...
jordan holmes
Everyone?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, this is big.
Trump got COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is kind of a big deal.
It's real hard to wrap your head around a kind of situation.
dan friesen
I don't pretend to know what's going to happen or know who you can trust in terms of a lot of the details that are coming out.
Whether he was low on oxygen or what the temperature of his fever was.
A lot of that stuff is very difficult to parse out.
So it would be weird to say he's gonna die.
I have no idea.
It's also weird to say he'll be fine.
unidentified
Although he might be.
dan friesen
He might not be.
He might be.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
No fucking idea.
But what I can say, with no qualms, is this is big.
This is very serious.
jordan holmes
I agree with you.
dan friesen
There's all kinds of questions about the timeline of when he knew he was sick, what steps were and were not taken.
Was he aware around the time of the debate, when he went to that fundraiser?
All these things.
The Supreme Court Party?
Like, all this stuff is very serious and very real and important, and Alex came in, and the best he had was, a lot of tests of false positives.
Then he read a bunch of headlines, some connected, some not, and then he developed it to maybe someone with a COVID lapel sprayer hit Trump with a weaponized COVID.
It's like, okay, this is the best you've got?
jordan holmes
We gotta update that, say, you know, like, when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
dan friesen
Some of them.
jordan holmes
The already professionally weird literally phone it in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is why he's being usurped by other online crazies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Because he's not willing to, like, I don't know, maybe he just doesn't have it in him anymore.
He doesn't have it in him to, like, really throw himself headlong into damn the torpedoes kind of...
Weirdness.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's been beaten down pretty hard by the lawsuits.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would be...
It's totally acceptable.
I would find it reasonable for you to be like, I just don't got it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I've been beaten too much.
dan friesen
Like Icarus, I flew too close to the sun and my wings are burned.
jordan holmes
Look at all that I've accomplished.
I just can't...
I'm not there anymore.
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
I'm not with the young guns.
dan friesen
I agree.
And I would accept that too.
But...
If you are in that position and you're someone like Alex, you better get out.
You better take your money and run because you're going to be...
Eaten alive by the young lions or the young guns.
They're going to take you out.
jordan holmes
Michael Jordan on the Wizards was still Michael Jordan, but he still got his ass beat a lot.
He was old.
dan friesen
And people cherished beating his ass.
jordan holmes
They loved it.
dan friesen
It was great.
jordan holmes
But whenever he beat their ass, they were like, oh, goddammit, it's Michael Jordan.
I didn't get beat by a 50-year-old man.
I got beat by Michael fucking Jordan.
You know, it's still cool.
dan friesen
So, Alex, I thought, for sure.
One of the reasons I didn't immediately think, like, let's do an emergency episode is, like, I think Saturday he's gonna come in and he's gonna do a special episode.
Because he did about when Ruth Gator Binsburg died.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so I figured, like, this is big enough stuff.
Alex needs to do a Saturday episode.
jordan holmes
Do you know when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died?
dan friesen
Gator Binsburg.
jordan holmes
Gator Binsburg died.
A year ago.
dan friesen
Feels like it.
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
Nothing matters.
dan friesen
So Alex only put out like an eight minute video.
jordan holmes
Of course he did.
dan friesen
On Saturday.
jordan holmes
I hope he doesn't die.
That'd really fuck up my day.
dan friesen
Well, I think by this point he realized like, okay, false positive ain't gonna fly.
That's not gonna work.
What are we gonna do?
Trump's in the hospital.
Oh shit.
alex jones
Evidence is mounting.
The facts are overwhelming.
Either.
The doctors at Walter Reed Medical Facility in D.C. are trying to kill President Trump, or they are the most inept idiots in the medical field that modern history has ever seen.
They are giving the president two experimental drugs, one a synthetic nanotech antibody and the other rindezivir.
And it's on record that you wouldn't give either one of these experimental drugs to someone unless they were in an emergency situation.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, the possibility there is that the case is more serious than you're allowing yourself to believe.
Yeah, like I would assume generally that if this is the course of action that's being taken, then either Trump insisted on it or...
He has a case that requires that, and the doctors think it's a prudent course.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You know, with malpractice for just, like, you and me, normal people, doctors can get in real big trouble for not providing the best care.
They can get sued more than Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I have seen the bills they pay for insurance, my friend.
dan friesen
It's high.
If you commit, let's say, malpractice with the fucking president...
jordan holmes
You're gonna be fine.
dan friesen
Career over.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you know, Bell wasn't remembered for that whole metal detector accidentally killing the president thing, so I think he'd be, you know, I'm sure if the doctor invented something that's really, really important to humanity, the whole killing the president thing would probably be forgotten, right?
dan friesen
Can you imagine, like, the next day after accidentally killing the president, you're that doctor, like, I gotta invent something.
Oh, shit!
jordan holmes
Telephone!
No!
He already did that!
unidentified
Shit!
He's sitting there with, like, a sketch pad, like, What will I be remembered for?
dan friesen
So, this is basically...
jordan holmes
I'm gonna get in that plane with the big bopper!
No one will know!
dan friesen
This is basically all the Saturday show has going for it, is like, these doctors are probably trying to kill Trump, which is, I gotta say, sensational, dangerous kind of talk, and doesn't do anybody a lick of good.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So we come in on the 4th, on Sunday, and this episode is possibly one of the weirdest things I've heard from Alex in a while.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
It's almost as if Trump having COVID and being in the hospital is kind of secondary.
It's not the biggest deal.
jordan holmes
I like it.
That's a good angle.
dan friesen
There's another piece of news that requires attention.
unidentified
House Gims just voted to cover up government.
alex jones
Child sex trafficking.
greg reese
In a 371 to 18 vote, our elected Congress appeared to be moving towards making pedophobia a hate crime.
dan friesen
So this is a really interesting way for Alex to cover this story.
Apparently his version of it is that House Dems voted to cover up pedophilia.
In reality, the House passed a largely symbolic resolution condemning QAnon, which is slightly different than voting to cover up pedophilia.
jordan holmes
That is very different, I would argue.
I would say that that is very different.
dan friesen
Additionally, it was not House Democrats who voted the measure through.
It was overwhelmingly supported across both parties, because QAnon shit has no place in sensible politics.
jordan holmes
What was that, 371 to 80?
dan friesen
18 or something like that.
I don't remember the exact number, but yeah.
jordan holmes
So if I'm...
Doing the numbers on House Democrats.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There are 380 of those about, right?
dan friesen
It was almost everybody in the House.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
In both parties?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
This is how the game is played, though.
QAnon has done literally nothing to actually bring any child traffickers to justice, nor have they actually saved any trafficked children.
And in fact, experts in the field have been very clear that the way QAnon people sensationalize the topic and focus attention in various bizarre directions has the real world effect of making the actual work of disrupting trafficking operations more difficult.
If you look at QAnon from a purely consequentialist framework, they're helping the very people they pretend to be bringing down.
So the secondary effect of their existence is the creation of a possibly highly motivated politically driven group that will never vote against outrageously right-wing candidates and who will be willing to work for free to create social media campaigns branding their opponents of these right-wing candidates to be pedophiles and demons.
The yelling about saving the children, though it doesn't result in any actually saved children, it's necessary in order to make sure that the group has some kind of plausible ability to deflect criticism and to turn attacks.
around it was all the psychiatrists so when the house passes a resolution denouncing q anon because it's a weird cult that has led to multiple multiple violent incidents and has the potential to lead to a whole lot more alex can report on that as the house voting to cover up pedophilia you see this game being played about all sorts of right-wing types tommy robinson is one of the uh one of the big ones that this tactic is uh deployed uh to cover It's all just a charade.
You use whatever optics and tools are available to justify and strengthen your dictator's grasp on power, even if it means carrying water for a group of lunatics who hate you and you've yelled about for years.
That's what Alex is doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the top story.
jordan holmes
I don't want to say, but it is occurring to me now that Elrond really did know what he was doing whenever he decided not to step into politics at all.
Create your own kingdom where you can't let, you know, this is what I'm saying.
Whenever it's like you're in my reality, just get him out of my own reality.
Do a Scientology thing.
Go make your own fucking compound in the middle of nowhere.
You guys can all believe in whatever you want.
Just stay out of my business.
Fuck it.
I'll give you tax-exempt status if you You stay in the compound.
You get your own internet, you get your own little place there, your QAnons, and then we get to live in our fun times.
dan friesen
I don't know, I don't think Alex has strong, fond feelings about compounds.
That's fair.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't trust me if all of my enemies were in a compound either, so that's fair.
dan friesen
That's how Alex starts the show.
That's the beginning of the show.
But the top headline, it's not news, it's not that Trump is in the hospital.
alex jones
Our top headline tonight on this Sunday, October 4th, global transmission, 29 days out, 107 until inauguration.
Is not President Trump at Walter Reed Medical Military Facility in D.C.?
That's our second biggest story.
No, it's not Communist China threatening military action against Hong Kong and Taiwan.
No, it's not the Democratic Party openly trying to plunge the U.S. dollar and destroy the U.S. economy to defeat Trump.
That's all important.
But at the heart of all of this is the Satanism of these maggots.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
And who they are.
And what makes them operate.
And what makes them tick.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
dan friesen
I don't know if what makes demons tick is the top story.
I don't know if you can cover that.
jordan holmes
No, no.
The New Yorker does one of those every six months or so.
They go to demon country, and they're like, we really gotta figure out, why won't you guys not like the Satan?
And they'll be like, oh, well, I like his policies on immigration.
You know, it's the way that works.
dan friesen
The new well-dressed demon.
jordan holmes
God, those are not far off, are they?
dan friesen
I don't know if this is a good use of time for Alex, considering everything...
Should be about Trump having COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, we've speculated on what would happen if and when Trump actually got COVID.
The disease that Alex has claimed is not even real.
dan friesen
It's not really a big deal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, apparently the answer is...
Look, it's definitely the second biggest story.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, the devil's around.
dan friesen
Have you met him?
You know what it is, I think?
I think it's like, I gotta kick this can.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know what's gonna happen.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And what happens will very much affect what I do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because, like, if Trump dies, Alex can't be, like, these doctors are going to be, are killing Trump.
Like, that will possibly make his audience start shooting.
Yes.
But if he recovers, then...
You don't want...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
And he specifically already said that when this happens, they're moving on the president and it's time to start killing.
dan friesen
I feel like he's just in a position where he's like, let's see what happens, which is dumb and not good.
jordan holmes
I think this is a proof of my theory, which is that he blinked.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Now would be that, literally, he's already laid the groundwork.
The moment the news came out, if he was gonna pull the trigger on, like, now is when we start the Civil War, that's when you do it.
And he's blinking.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's interesting, too, that I think Alex might internalize some of that blink, and he might recognize it, because he's talking about QAnon and the way that, like, the House voted to condemn the whole thing.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
And I've not heard Alex talk like this before.
alex jones
With these videos.
Of Democrat congressmen saying, oh, we're going to defeat you Q people, that's because the public is awake.
They're aware, and now, even more than Alex Jones, the symbol of the deep state of the resistance is Q. And, you know, part of that is a setup so that they can pose as Q. That's why anything that's esoteric is dangerous.
Anything foggy, you don't jump off a cliff into water that's, you know, brown or black or...
You're foamy.
You want to jump into Clearwater?
No, you're not going to break your legs.
dan friesen
Good, good.
Yeah, I've not heard Alex say anything other than, like, I am the symbol of the Patriots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The idea that he thinks he's second to Q in being a symbol of the resistance to the deep state seems meaningful.
jordan holmes
It reminds me of Shadow Water.
Whenever all of a sudden he's like, listen, I don't actually deal with those deep state guys.
I don't deal with that stuff.
You know who's the leader of this?
Q. So if anybody does something foggy, it's Q who's the symbol of the resistance.
The leader of the resistance.
Everybody, just so you know, the tip of the spear!
dan friesen
I didn't even think about that.
That's interesting.
That is an interesting possible way to read that.
Of like, shit's getting too real right now.
Trump is...
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
He might die.
jordan holmes
I'm waiting for him to be like, I got kids, man.
I've been lying this whole time.
I can't let this shit happen.
You guys are going to kill my kids.
dan friesen
That is an interesting possible cover your ass kind of thing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Huh.
I didn't think about that.
And it'll be interesting to see where things go.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would be.
dan friesen
But I don't know if there's any strong indications of that from the rest of this episode.
But I want to keep that in mind.
Anyway, they're going to kill Trump.
They're trying to kill him with these drugs at the hospital.
alex jones
I don't want to be a fearmonger for no reason.
jordan holmes
I want to be a fearmonger for money.
alex jones
The drugs Trump's taking are way more dangerous than COVID-19.
And even his own doctors at a press conference yesterday admitting we're monitoring him at Walter Reed Medical Facility because of the treatments that are more dangerous than the disease.
Oh, don't worry.
They're not giving him hydroxychloroquine.
Oh, can't do that.
Because that's, you know, an open drug.
The patent's up.
Anybody can get it for, you know, 50 bucks or whatever.
The whole regimen, so you can't.
jordan holmes
Sold.
alex jones
50 bucks is the high end.
Oh, but Rendesivir that Fauci makes thousands of dollars per dose on is an IV drug.
Oh, it barely works 8% of the time.
And that side effects.
Oh, that's okay.
That's all coming up.
unidentified
Separately.
alex jones
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You need to experience this for yourself.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
Fauci's evil plan is to bleed Trump for a few grand at a time.
unidentified
They won't give Trump hydroxychloroquine because it's cheap.
jordan holmes
He doesn't get a cut of the hydroxy.
dan friesen
Now, there's a further problem with this, and that is, if you'll recall, a couple months ago, Trump said he was taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventative.
jordan holmes
There is that, yes.
dan friesen
So that seems to indicate that that might not work.
jordan holmes
It didn't really work, did it?
dan friesen
Yeah, or maybe he was lying.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
One of the two.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
And that's what gets us...
That's what this next clip is actually about, but Alex misrepresents it.
alex jones
Here's some of the headlines.
Analysts, Trump faces credibility crisis over healthcare.
Oh.
They're saying he says it doesn't exist.
No, he said shut down travel from China.
They've shut down their domestic flights.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, no.
The credibility crisis is about no one knowing what to believe.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The credibility crisis is about that.
Like, he said he was taking hydroxychloroquine.
Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't, but now no one knows.
Like, no one believes anything.
That's why, like, I think it's kind of irresponsible for folks like Michael Moore or others to be like, hey, he's probably faking this.
You have no reason to...
Believe that other than distrust.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I think positing it is a little irresponsible, but at the same time, I totally understand where the impulse comes from.
jordan holmes
Who knows what the fuck's going on?
Anything could be happening.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We've seen them do, like, real crazy conspiracies because they think that Alex Jones' plans work.
dan friesen
It's understandable to have your brain go into those areas, but, like...
It's because of a crisis of confidence.
No one believes this shit.
These people are saying contradictory things.
jordan holmes
You can't believe the president's doctor.
Because the president's doctor is told to lie about his condition to make him look good.
If you can't believe the doctor that is covering the president...
You can't believe anything.
Like, that should be literally the only job where you cannot lie at all.
Just doctors shouldn't be...
You can't lie.
Isn't there something wrong with that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know if that's in the oath.
jordan holmes
It's probably not in the oath.
I think Hippocrates was probably like, well, there's no way somebody would lie about the president getting hurt.
dan friesen
He foresaw the presidency.
He was a psychic like Alex.
jordan holmes
He's like, there's no reason to put that in there.
dan friesen
So by Sunday, Alex is kind of having to wrestle with the, like, well, when I suggested it was a false positive, it looks like I was wrong.
I think Trump is actually sick.
jordan holmes
I think it might be a problem.
dan friesen
Now, the only thing that Alex can work with is playing games around, like, is he that sick?
Is he sick enough to have these treatments?
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Trump's blood oxygen level dropped rapidly Friday.
Sparking health concerns, Meadows says.
So that's what the White House is now saying, that his oxygen level...
And listen, everybody has a good eye.
Trump looks like he lost 15, 20 pounds.
He looks very narrow-faced, ashen, very white compared to his normal orangutan, orange glow.
So you can't fake shit.
You know what that look looks like.
But is it a regular cold?
Is it the flu?
It doesn't matter.
Is it COVID?
The point is, is that what they're giving him, you don't give someone unless they're on their deathbed.
So we've got that going on.
dan friesen
So if you think that Trump dropped 20 or 15 pounds since the debate, that's severe.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
That's something really fucked up.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
That was a few days.
Who doesn't?
Look, you take a lot of zinc, you lose 15 to 20 pounds.
Everybody knows that's how it works.
dan friesen
That's very unhealthy.
jordan holmes
Nah, it's good for you.
dan friesen
Nah, it's not good.
jordan holmes
It's good for you.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think Alex is like, I don't know, where is he on Dabda?
I don't know.
He's somewhere in there.
Starting to come close to deal making, maybe.
So, speaking of making deals.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Never gotten supplements.
You've never gotten a film or a book.
Now is the time and could be your last chance.
Because I'm in business, so I see the supply chain breaking down.
I see a third of our supplements.
We can't even reorder.
So everything we have in stock, we have in stock ready to ship to you.
But it's selling out very, very quickly.
And it's a scary situation.
We're doing a money bomb next Wednesday night.
We're 40 hours straight to try to raise extra capital to go into next year.
We're not funded by Jordan Soros.
The Globals were funded by you.
Thanks for taking action.
dan friesen
Get the money and run.
That would support your theory.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's time to get out.
jordan holmes
Do a money bomb and run away.
That wouldn't be a bad idea, honestly.
dan friesen
If I were him, 100%.
Shit, it's getting too hot.
jordan holmes
I know.
I can't imagine making a plan that far in advance right now.
Do you know what I mean?
Next Wednesday, we're going to do something.
I don't know what I'm going to do within the next four hours.
Every Twitter update I get, I'm like...
Is this the moment?
You know, like, next week?
There is no next week, man!
dan friesen
There is a decent chance that I will fuck around and convince myself to watch that entire money bomb.
But probably not, because I've done that in the past, and so much of it is just, like, replaying the same video.
Although I think it might be...
It would be really fun to do that as some kind of a marathon or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean...
It wouldn't.
jordan holmes
You could have a...
dan friesen
It's fun in my head.
jordan holmes
You know what you could do?
You could live stream it and have a nice little watch party with a bunch of policy walks.
dan friesen
Could.
I don't want to do that to people.
I might think about something.
Anyway, Hillary...
jordan holmes
Really?
Talking Hillary right now?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, do you know what happened?
jordan holmes
I don't care.
dan friesen
This is actually really serious.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I mean, Jordan, look at my eyes.
jordan holmes
No, I believe you.
dan friesen
I'm very serious.
jordan holmes
This is very serious.
unidentified
Well...
alex jones
You know, even the article didn't pick up what it was.
I looked Friday at the actual art, and I thought, let me search engine what's in this book.
Far worse than the Infowars article.
I mean, you can guess.
It's demons raping people.
And that's what Hillary posed with the book.
What the devil?
Hillary Clinton has sexually explicit book of satanic glass porn.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Okay, now, Dan.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Does he not know that Larry Nichols just died?
dan friesen
He doesn't.
jordan holmes
He does not know.
dan friesen
This is brutal.
Well, he might know.
He hasn't brought it up.
But, look, dude, okay, Hillary Clinton, I don't know if you know this, is now a podcaster.
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
Yes, and so she had a picture of herself recording a podcast, and she had a laptop that was sitting on a pile of books, and one of them was an art book by this Italian glass sculptor.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And apparently there are some things about devils.
Fuck it.
And so there's devils fucking each other.
But they're amazing glass sculptures.
It's like this interesting art thing.
And so now Alex is like, oh man, it's devil rape.
jordan holmes
Okay, so you're telling me that the president is on the verge of death and we're having an argument about whether or not the Venus de Milo should be shown in schools.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
Blown glass in the shape of devils having sex is a sign of the devil.
jordan holmes
I'm pissed, Dan.
We have been doing this for almost four years now, and I bet Hillary has more listeners than us, and I just don't think she's put in the time.
dan friesen
I mean, I think...
jordan holmes
What has she done?
dan friesen
She was Secretary of State.
I mean, it depends on what you think of as the legwork.
I think her resume is much better than mine.
So, Alex has this weird thing.
We're getting towards the end of, you know, the second hour of Sunday's show.
And Alex is in a weird mood.
He's talking about how he is the last person.
Who gets the information that whenever they can't get the information out any other way, they go to him because they know that he's brave and he'll do it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And that makes him a crap-covered toad or something.
He sounds very bitter about, like, why am I not the first choice if I'm the one who's brave enough to put out the information?
alex jones
We told you about the Nunes memo a year before he released it.
And why?
William Benny had just met.
With the head of U.S. National Intelligence and with Trump, he already gave the intel.
They gave him the intel and said, no one's covering this.
We gave it to Fox.
Go on Jones' show and say it.
That's how pathetic the White House is.
I don't say that in a mean way.
I'm pathetic, too.
The White House has to get William Benny to call me up and hold my hand and go, go look at this memo from the FISA court, 2017, out for six months.
No one covered it.
I was the last guy they could come to.
Imagine how that feels, like you're on the wart-covered toad, like in the basement, in the dungeon, and then no one else will do it, and they open the door, and they go, okay, you have an audience, wart-covered toad.
You can release it now.
And then, of course, I get all the heat.
I don't feel sorry for myself.
I'm not, like, up here, like, I'm the glistening Valkyrie in the war.
I'm the wart-covered toad.
Sitting on a pile of crap in my basement that no one wants to see.
And then when everyone else fails, they open the dungeon door and say, little crap-covered toad, you can do it now.
Oh, thank you!
dan friesen
You sound really mad.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that doesn't sound good.
dan friesen
You sound so bitter.
jordan holmes
That is bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think a little bit accurate, though.
Like, yeah.
That's what they do with you.
They keep you in the cage, and then whenever they're like, we'll throw this bone at you, then you get to eat.
dan friesen
The people at Fox couldn't get away with putting this out, because it's ridiculous, and they wouldn't make it past any kind of editors, even the shoddy ones that they may be employing.
So yes, Toad, come do this.
jordan holmes
Hey Dan, quick question for you.
What would you call William Binney's warehouse where he holds all his blackmail material?
dan friesen
Go for it.
jordan holmes
Binnie's Leverage Depot.
dan friesen
Oh, I get it.
Sorry.
It took me a second.
I knew it was going to be a play on the liquor store.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
But people outside of the Chicagoland area might not know that there is a Binnie's Beverage Depot that is a liquor store here in Chicago.
Maybe a couple other cities, but I certainly don't think there's any in Europe.
jordan holmes
That's probably not true.
They're not going to get that one.
I admit that.
This is a little bit of a U.S.-centric show.
I apologize.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you can tell there's a little bit of a different mood there, too.
He's bummed.
He's mad.
But I also think that he's getting a little drunk.
I think he started drinking during the first hour.
There's a couple of points where you can really hear him take a tug on something.
But you don't know.
It could be water.
It could be something.
I'm not saying for sure that in the second hour of his Sunday show he is, in fact, drunk.
He's different.
The first hour is...
It is what it is.
It's a normal, just Alex Jones, stupid show.
The second hour, he brings in John Bowne and Greg Reese.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And this shit gets off the rails so fast.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Here's John Bowne talking about how everyone who's not his kind of Christian is basically going to end up working for Satan.
unidentified
All right.
jon bowne
Even the people that don't think they're satanic, even if you think you're an atheist, at this point, you've got to choose sides because you're going to end up satanic.
jordan holmes
You're gonna end up satanic, too.
dan friesen
Can I suggest that you will not end up satanic?
jordan holmes
No, you're gonna end up satanic.
dan friesen
You will end up being viewed as satanic by people like Alex and John Bound.
jordan holmes
Wow, there's that.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like, hey, even if you are just an atheist or a Muslim or a Buddhist or Jewish, you know, like, hey...
We're gonna call you Satanists eventually.
You understand?
Get with the script, or eventually we will label you all Satanists.
jordan holmes
We play basketball at the YMCA together.
I'm not a Satanist.
Why would I even be allowed in there?
Nah, you're a Satanist, bro.
dan friesen
So here is where I really got the sense that maybe Alex is a little bit boozed up.
They're talking about how they don't prepare for these interviews that they do, which is great.
jordan holmes
Not a surprise.
dan friesen
And then Alex is just getting fucked up.
jon bowne
You turn on, even turn on Fox News, turn on MSNBC that just puts you right back to sleep.
unidentified
Everything's fine.
alex jones
There's what I'm saying.
They all had pre-interviews before.
All I'm saying is we didn't do a pre-interview.
unidentified
No.
No, no.
alex jones
They can't even imagine that.
That's what I'm saying.
It's just real.
It's the respect of real people.
jordan holmes
I showed up here.
unidentified
I ran into him in the hall.
alex jones
Like I just said.
unidentified
You know, I'm glad to be here talking to you guys about these things I think about all day long.
We respect you.
alex jones
We love you.
John, you don't love you, right?
jordan holmes
Of course I do.
alex jones
You know, Greg, I love you, right?
greg reese
I love you too, man.
alex jones
They could be shut down very soon.
It makes me love every person here even more.
We're so close.
It's a quickening.
I'm not even scared.
I'm just trying to say bye to everybody, you know?
dan friesen
Holy shit.
Something is up.
The mood changed so drastically.
I don't know what it is.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
unidentified
I love you guys.
dan friesen
Just trying to say goodbye.
jordan holmes
It's fun to brag about, like, hey, we never do any preparation for this show and then end with hugging and crying.
If you had prepared for the show, we wouldn't be hugging and crying.
So I suppose in some ways you're right and in some ways I'm right.
dan friesen
Yeah, this would be happening all the time on CNN if they didn't do pre-interviews.
They'd be crying and drunk.
jordan holmes
There'd be weeping drunk people everywhere.
Everyone knows this.
Only a love of Satan that keeps the rest of us from getting drunk on air and crying.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
And I mean, like, hey, I'm not here to shit on people expressing care for each other or anything like that.
It's more the way this is happening.
Yeah.
It's not...
That vulnerability, which I think is a little insincere to begin with.
jordan holmes
Considering he doesn't even bring up Larry Nichols.
That is brutal.
dan friesen
Maybe that's what he's bummed out about.
jordan holmes
That could be what he's bummed out about.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Probably not.
Anyway, Greg Reese is an optimistic fella, but not anymore, man.
greg reese
I'm a very optimistic person, I think, through all of this, but the day that President Trump and Melania Trump announced that they had COVID and they were going into the hospital, I would say that's the day that my optimism ended.
alex jones
This isn't a stunt.
He looks sick.
They hit him with something.
greg reese
And to have him at Walter Reed Hospital, surrounded by big farmhouse, military industrial complex.
jordan holmes
At Walter Reed?
greg reese
If he were to die from quote-unquote COVID, it just seems to me like the enemy has everything wrapped up.
So I've never seen the enemy so close to victory through all this until right now.
dan friesen
Poor guy lost his optimism.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now we've developed fully from it's probably a false positive test to they hit Trump with something.
Probably some weaponized COVID strain and now the doctors are trying to kill him with experimental treatments at Walter Reed.
This doesn't go anywhere good.
jordan holmes
No.
If this is what Reese is bringing, I'm terrified of what Pachenik would have said.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Man, I want to hear it, but I want to hear it off air so no one else can hear it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I want him to whisper it in my ear.
dan friesen
He should be on!
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on, man.
jordan holmes
You can't have him on!
He'd advocate an armed overthrow now!
dan friesen
This isn't far off.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That's what I'm saying!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're having Reese on and you're almost breaking the law.
dan friesen
Well, Steve wouldn't let Alex cry.
jon bowne
So I will put my life on the line for my child's future and this country.
alex jones
And we're reaching a point.
It's not like you're doing them a favor.
You wanted to already take action.
That's what I'm saying.
They've got us.
We're like, we can't wait much longer.
It's a demand.
dan friesen
It's like, you're going to do it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alex, slap yourself in the face twice.
We've got to make Melania queen now.
dan friesen
Alex.
Get off air.
You can let John Bowne and Greg Reese host.
You don't need to be there.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
You're clearly going through something, whether it's intoxication or just over-emotional whatever.
It's not good.
This is a bad...
jordan holmes
No, this is bad.
dan friesen
So, war is coming.
jordan holmes
War is coming, naturally.
greg reese
So what's going to happen next?
The only way we're ever going to get through this, I think at this point there's going to be war.
alex jones
War.
greg reese
Exactly how it looks.
alex jones
I can't tell you.
jordan holmes
War is here.
alex jones
War.
jordan holmes
It's coming.
alex jones
Get ready for war.
unidentified
War!
alex jones
I'm not happy about war.
jordan holmes
War!
unidentified
But think of the ancient civilizations.
jon bowne
We don't even understand half of the stuff that all line up with stars.
alex jones
Atlantis blew up.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
Are you telling me that I'm going to have to die in a civil war because some asshole thinks that Atlantis already blew up?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay, cool.
dan friesen
Here's the only way I could ever regain respect for Greg Reese or John Bowne.
When Alex says war twice, one of them needed to say huh, and then the other needed to say what is it good for?
Absolutely nothing.
alex jones
Good God.
jordan holmes
I took a drink and it took everything inside me.
Not to spit on you.
unidentified
If the two of them were able to do that, that would have been so fucking funny.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine the fucking...
It would short-circuit Alex's drunk brain.
dan friesen
War.
jordan holmes
War.
Good God, y 'all.
Say it again.
Anyways, let's get back to...
Anyways, we're going to have a war, right?
We're going to have a war.
dan friesen
Can you imagine sitting next to Alex and you're trying to express like, yeah, you know, at this point I really don't think there's anything that can be done except for war.
unidentified
War!
dan friesen
Alex just keeps saying war.
unidentified
War!
jordan holmes
So, and then you end with, you know, a lot of us don't know what the ancients had to do.
Yeah, they already blew up Atlantis.
Like, okay, fine.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So, a lot of the other wars in the past, corporate wars.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Not this one.
Oh, no.
greg reese
I would say it's safe to say that most of the wars we grew up with are corporate wars that were started under false premises.
This war is, I mean...
For lack of a better word, perhaps a Christian revolution of some sort.
Providence.
Providence, yeah.
alex jones
Oh, it's a Christian, call it a jihad, it's still the Islamic term, but we are under attack.
It's a crusade.
They're going to come for you because your relationship with God.
They're going to know in the algorithm you're connected to the big guy.
They want you gone.
jon bowne
Yeah, it's the war in heaven is about to happen here on earth.
dan friesen
Whoa!
Guys, this is a news show.
jordan holmes
Do you know what's fun?
It's nice when they finally just like, yeah, we're ISIS.
It's a jihad.
We're ISIS.
We're the Republican Party.
We're ISIS.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
It's a Christian jihad.
jordan holmes
You knew we were ISIS.
We were ISIS.
They're ISIS.
We're ISIS.
dan friesen
It's a jihad.
But it's defensive.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, this just deteriorates into what I would describe as a zealotry session.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
We're on this planet.
It's all real.
Think about it.
We have to accept.
How powerful we are.
You have to accept that responsibility.
greg reese
Absolutely.
And right now, it's up to all of us.
It's up to everyone.
And this is why I feel so bad for the herd, is because they're missing out on one of the most epic opportunities that life ever has to offer, which is to actually take responsibility, stand up, fight evil, clean the garden, and create a world for our grandchildren.
And they're missing out on all of it.
alex jones
Think what we've already done.
It's unlimited.
unidentified
And they have an excuse for everything you just said.
They have an anti-argumentative, you know, Baphomet.
alex jones
And I agree, that's why we just ignore them.
Because we know all they build is failure.
All they build is betrayal.
jon bowne
Well, and it is amazing that we were given Christ.
dan friesen
Whoa!
Alex, when he's like, all they build is betrayal, he can't even, like...
There's that pause there because Alex can't keep up with the thought.
I think that John and Greg are probably just like, Alex is going through something.
This is upsetting.
jordan holmes
What a fun belief system.
The only way we can create a better world for our grandchildren is obviously by slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people.
At no point was he like, maybe we could do some research into agriculture.
unidentified
Nope.
greg reese
That would help.
dan friesen
Nope.
Gotta take away rights from people.
jordan holmes
They've never built anything!
Obviously, the people who have gone around and slaughtered in order to create a grandchildren world invented microphones, right?
They were the ones who did it that we're speaking into?
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
I'm sure.
dan friesen
So, Alex, they go to break, and I guess he splashed some water on his face, and he comes back a little bit more composed.
unidentified
Coming up, two hours of transmission with our brothers, John Bowne, Greg Reese, and Harrison Smith.
By the hand of the Almighty.
alex jones
I'm telling you, there's times I don't know stuff, a lot of against the enemy, and my God just goes...
You get lit up, and you intellectually know, and you spiritually know, and you know you can't evade.
unidentified
Whoa.
dan friesen
I mean, I feel like that's my response to a lot of this stuff, is just, whoa.
unidentified
Whoa.
Whoa, boy.
jordan holmes
Whoa.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Whoa!
dan friesen
Yeah, man, sometimes I'm my biggest enemy, and I don't know things, and then God downloads things into my head, and I know that I'm invincible.
jordan holmes
How about, no, you go back inside.
dan friesen
Take a nap.
jordan holmes
You go back inside.
dan friesen
Get a glass of coffee.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
Fucking, get it together, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
What are you doing?
You understand that people could hear this?
jordan holmes
I just wish it was just the two of us.
That would be nice.
That would be nice.
dan friesen
My brothers, John Bowne and Greg Reese.
Let me tell you about how God gives me magic.
jordan holmes
I don't...
Sir, sir, sir.
Please.
dan friesen
Hey, you know what'll help me sober up?
More booze.
jordan holmes
Sir, I know this Denny's serves whiskey, but please, you have to go.
dan friesen
Speaking of which, can I get another whiskey?
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course you may.
This is a Denny's.
Of course you can.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Just ridiculous.
So, we already heard earlier John Bowne and Greg Reese discussing, and Alex, too, discussing how they don't do any pre-interviews, and that's sort of a sign of virtue.
Sure.
And again, They get more into this.
No preparation means good.
greg reese
It's almost predictable.
When a report comes on just inspired and rapid and quick and gets it out, those tend to be over the target.
Whereas if I spend a lot of time...
Trying to pick a report and stuff like that.
It's like the more ego is involved in my report, the less effective it is.
But you can feel the spirit.
It just comes on fast and hard.
jon bowne
It's almost like when you do too much research, you get too much into it.
alex jones
Those aren't the ones that are successful.
jon bowne
It's the one where God just says, hey, come on.
unidentified
We need this out.
greg reese
Yeah, and then usually my ego is actually questioning.
alex jones
And again, they want their broadcast to be God.
No, we're turning to God.
We're doing the real thing.
dan friesen
Okay, Alex.
jordan holmes
Go be three old men in a bar.
That's where that conversation is fine.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Play cards.
dan friesen
No, I mean, I understand kind of what, like, there's two things that, like, I would say in response to the work process that they're discussing.
One is creativity is a really interesting thing where a lot of times inspiration can strike in a way that you can feel like you're a conduit of creativity.
And, like, sometimes, I'm sure you experience this when Absolutely.
jordan holmes
It flows out of you.
dan friesen
And at times it's harder, and at times it's easier.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And I know that back when I used to do stand-up, that's something a lot of people would talk about, about the experience of the flow, you know, that kind of thing where you're sitting there and writing, you can't get anything going, and then out of nowhere, oh, and then you get a page.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
You know, that kind of thing.
That's one thing.
That's creativity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Work and research is a little different.
jordan holmes
A little.
dan friesen
I do not think that what they're describing is like the flow or anything.
I think it's...
Oh, this is easy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the way I would go with it.
dan friesen
Yeah, they intuitively and instinctually just gravitate towards things that are not very difficult.
These dumb boutique, making conservatives angry stories are really easy.
Yelling about the devil is really easy.
Getting into the nuance of things is not.
It's very challenging.
jordan holmes
Here's what I heard from that.
I heard...
My workflow is I go through a bunch of headlines, and then when I see one that makes me think, ooh, I'm almost done, that's the one that I work on.
dan friesen
Yes, that's what I hear too.
And I'm really sick and tired of these people like Alex and his employees trying to present not trying.
And putting in no effort and taking just the easiest path as some kind of indication of rigor, virtue, or God is working through me.
Because it's not.
You're just lazy and bad.
jordan holmes
No, this is totally like that.
Failed comedians become right-wing commentators because this is the type of conversation that I heard in the back of an open mic from first and second year baby comics all the time.
Just that, like, you know, my writing process is...
It's all about inspiration.
You know, it hits me and I don't really do too much and all that stuff.
And you're like, Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Hey, dudes, why don't you try and get a job at any other outlet with that ideology?
Try and get a job anywhere but Infowars if you work like that.
Not a fucking...
jordan holmes
Tell me, oh, I love doing stand-up.
Then fucking care about working at it, asshole.
dan friesen
You, Greg, and John work at InfoWars, and you have for a long time, because you're unemployable in any other capacity.
Because what you do sucks.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Greg says something really stupid here, and I just kept this in because it's kind of like, ah, it's fun.
greg reese
And you can feel the psychology the moment Trump went in the hospital, and I would argue that even people on the left probably felt it, that there was a sense of...
He offered a sense of security in the past few years.
alex jones
The stock market went up.
We had people like, America's opening you.
But now you feel it.
Oh, wait, it's not.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I feel like when Trump went to the hospital, the left was really like, oh, no, we're insecure.
jordan holmes
Okay, here's the invention for the doctor who kills Trump.
All right.
Here's the invention that he has to make.
It's a little device that attaches to every right-wing commentator's shoulder right here.
dan friesen
On their right wing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
And then whenever they say something like, I think Trump has made us all feel a sense of security, a little hand comes out and slaps him in the face.
dan friesen
Could be an interesting invention.
I don't know if it's as groundbreaking as like a telephone.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Honestly, it might do more for society.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip, and it's Alex.
I would say he spent the better part of this hour just having a Christian zealotry session with these two dudes.
jordan holmes
It does seem like it, yes.
dan friesen
And so it's kind of funny that he's promoting the next show as being the one where they can really have the time to get into the topics.
alex jones
Wow.
I'm going to thank the great crew tonight here.
Owen normally hosts this show.
The next two hours, only six minutes adds an hour.
So we're going to have a lot of time to cover every issue, a lot of time to play the clubs, a lot of time to go over all the news.
But just remember, the enemy wants you to feel powerless and not realize the power you have, word of mouth, to tell folks about this show right now.
We are so close to winning, so close to losing.
dan friesen
I've wasted a ton of time on this show, but that's why the next show has plenty of time to talk about other things.
jordan holmes
That's fascinating.
dan friesen
Now, the devil wants you to feel powerless, but you have the power to promote my stuff for free.
I gotta go to bed.
jordan holmes
It's just the confidence of somebody who knows my audience can't stop listening.
You know?
dan friesen
It's too threatening to their sense of self to abandon me at this point.
jordan holmes
Do you know what somebody, if they didn't like our show, Dan, they know inside, I'll just turn it off and click unsubscribe.
So we have to do a good job.
dan friesen
Well, I think I just also would feel pretty bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
I understand that.
dan friesen
I think with or without an audience, I would feel a certain responsibility.
jordan holmes
Remember when we didn't have an audience?
dan friesen
Well, quite well.
jordan holmes
But the idea that you could just be like, yeah, I fucked around and cried and got drunk and just had a nice little bull sesh with my friends.
dan friesen
But Jesus.
jordan holmes
Tomorrow's show's gonna be great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, no way.
dan friesen
And the show that these two dudes that I've been crying with are about to host is gonna be great.
And they're gonna...
You know what?
It's gonna be just like this, but replace me with my intern Harrison Smith.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Isn't that exciting?
jordan holmes
That is going to blow your minds.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert.
That is not exciting.
jordan holmes
You can just...
Guys, you just turn it off.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's not hard.
dan friesen
It would be nice if they did.
And based on the comments that I was seeing on Bandot Video, it seemed like a lot of folks were...
jordan holmes
It's about time.
dan friesen
I think...
A lot of people were like, come on, man.
Poisoning the fucking Walter Reed doctors are trying to kill.
What is this?
And I don't know how indicative those comments are of any generalized feeling.
I don't track the comments on there generally.
So I don't know how different that is from normal.
And it could be trolls fucking around or something.
But I did enjoy seeing it.
People saying, grow up.
jordan holmes
It warms your heart.
Warms your heart when somebody finally tells...
dan friesen
It's the appropriate response.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
When you see it, you like it.
Yeah.
So, yeah, interestingly, I mean, we come to the end of this weekend coverage and...
jordan holmes
Slam dunk.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
jordan holmes
I was going to call that a slam dunk of a weekend.
dan friesen
It's interesting how it doesn't feel like Alex thinks that Trump...
jordan holmes
Do you realize the president might die in the next few days?
Of the United States!
dan friesen
I mean, Alex is even...
I mean, he clearly is aware of that.
He said it.
He says as much.
He's not acting as if that's the case.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And that's kind of weird to me, and I don't know what the deal is.
jordan holmes
Well, the way he said he would act if it were the case would be to start a fucking war.
dan friesen
That is true.
jordan holmes
And it seems like right now they're all trying to, like...
Psych themselves up because they know that they have no interest in a war.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, if by Sunday, Alex is drunkenly talking about he's sure that they hit Trump with something and they're trying to kill him in the hospital.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Like, what are you doing about it?
Nothing.
dan friesen
If you believe that's in any way true...
jordan holmes
How are you...
Are you still on the radio talking with your two friends?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I'd seen some headlines that were saying that Alex had said that he's going to go fly to D.C. to help Trump or whatever.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
dan friesen
I didn't hear that on his show.
He must have put out some kind of other video where he said that.
jordan holmes
He was on the way to the airport on Friday, but then he changed his mind.
It was like a Love Actually thing.
At the airport, Trump showed up with a thing, and he was like, oh my god!
dan friesen
Might be going to DC.
Maybe not.
Also, Marathon Money Bomb on Wednesday.
A lot of stuff coming up.
I hate this.
I'm glad that I found something else, this little side project.
It's really helping keep me really interested and my attention away from how much I think this is all spiraling down the drain.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But, yeah, we'll be...
Deep coverage of that money bomb, that's for sure.
But before we get out of here today, Jordan, let's take some voicemails from the people.
unidentified
Hey, TAC guys, I hope this is you.
Otherwise, someone is about to get a really weird message.
This is Oren Rye from Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
And a couple weeks ago, you mentioned not really being into Warhammer 40,000, which I think is a shame because they offer a lot of solutions to the Alex Jones problem.
Like this section of lore from the Orc Codex, which I believe sums up Alex pretty well.
Weird Boys are psychically powerful orcs who act as a focal point for the energy subconsciously generated by their green-skinned comrades.
Energy that binds them together with a common purpose.
Unfortunately, Weird Boys struggle to control this buildup of psychic power.
Lights flash around his head.
Sparks fly from his eyes, and raw power starts to dribble from his mouth, nose, and ears, which I think Alice has described himself as, you know, in his actions.
Unless the weird boy finds some way to release this pent-up energy, his head will explode.
Weird boys live in special huts away from the other boys and are not allowed to wander about unless wearing warning bells and escorted by an entourage which inevitably includes the strangest and most disturbed of all green skins in the tribe.
Which to me sounds a lot like Alice Jones and his rogue gallery of cranks and grifters.
Other than that, I really love the show.
Love you, and take it easy.
Thanks so much.
dan friesen
That does sound like Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds a lot like Alex.
Do you think every leader of a Proud Boy cell is called a Weird Boy?
unidentified
Weird Boy!
jordan holmes
Weird Boys!
dan friesen
Yeah, but I would say, I mean, if they have the Grand Wizard of the KKK, the Proud Boys have to have some sort of a fun, honorific title.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I feel like I actually do know this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, I don't.
I'm thinking of various people who were Proud Boys, like Rufio Pan Man.
jordan holmes
Sure, that's true, that's true.
dan friesen
Based Stick Man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if one of them, if any one of them has stolen Raptor Princess, we literally personally have to go fight the Proud Boys.
dan friesen
Probably, yeah.
Alright, next call.
unidentified
Jordan, just want to say it's me, it's Quokka.
No, I'm fucking with you.
It's Taylor from Kansas City.
dan friesen
What superpower would you abuse?
That's it.
That's the call.
The question asked...
jordan holmes
That wasn't a terrible Australian accent.
I will give him that.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That wasn't terrible at all.
dan friesen
And shout out to Kansas City, home of the best ice cream shop in America, Betty Ray's.
Check it out if you're...
jordan holmes
That you have no association with.
dan friesen
No connection to it all.
jordan holmes
This is a very nice message for you.
What superpower would you abuse?
dan friesen
What does abuse mean?
I understand that peeping on people with x-ray vision is definitely abusing the power.
I wouldn't do that.
But if I could have the power to grow plants...
jordan holmes
Sure.
You would abuse that power for sure.
dan friesen
But how would I abuse it?
Like tying people up with plants?
Because I wouldn't do that.
jordan holmes
No, see, here's my question to you.
Because I think it's kind of what we're going to talk about.
I don't want to abuse people with the power.
dan friesen
No, but see, that's the issue.
jordan holmes
How do you abuse just the power?
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Alright, now here's my theory on how you abuse just the power.
dan friesen
You have to be wasteful with it.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
I can create anything, or I can turn anything into diamonds or gold, and I just never do it.
Like, I can...
Any financial problem, I just never do it.
I abuse that power.
dan friesen
So if I were growing...
jordan holmes
Or maybe I use that responsibly by not using that power, Dan.
dan friesen
So if I were to grow plants, then I would be like, I just refuse to make food for anybody.
jordan holmes
Yes!
That would be an abuse of your power.
dan friesen
But I wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't abuse a power, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess if I could, like...
Look, let's be honest.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If I could communicate with ATMs with my mind and take out money, I might do that.
jordan holmes
Well, that's not an abuse of your power.
That's the only responsible way to use it.
That money's not even real, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's where the debate comes in.
What does it mean to abuse a superpower?
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
I don't know.
dan friesen
How would you abuse flying?
jordan holmes
Just do it too much.
You're stealing it from the birds, Dan.
unidentified
What's too much?
jordan holmes
You're stealing air from the birds.
unidentified
Huh.
jordan holmes
You're taking up too much airspace.
dan friesen
I think intrinsically abusing a superpower means that you're doing it in a villainous way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, to another person.
dan friesen
Right, like you're using your brain powers to force people to do things.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I wouldn't want to mess with any of that stuff.
So I don't know.
I don't know if you...
jordan holmes
Well, it's like going to a gun range, you know?
Like, if your superpower is your gun, and you go to the gun range, you're using your superpower responsibly.
You're not abusing that power, you're shooting it, you know?
In a safe space.
dan friesen
I thought of one, maybe.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, okay, so if I could breathe underwater, I might just go and live in the water.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That might be abusing the power, because I'd be isolating myself from all humankind, living with fish.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you weren't susceptible to cold, you'd live in Antarctica.
That's not really abusing your power.
dan friesen
I mean, it would just be using the power to facilitate me living in the middle of nowhere.
jordan holmes
I think you're just trying to abuse the rest of us by moving into the middle of nowhere.
dan friesen
That's not abusing anybody.
That's just me living in the woods.
jordan holmes
Dan, don't hide your light under the woods.
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
That's an interesting philosophical question about how one would abuse a power.
jordan holmes
I don't think he was expecting us to answer thusly.
dan friesen
No.
I don't have a good answer, I guess.
jordan holmes
Me neither.
unidentified
Hiya.
This is a message for Dan and Jordan.
My name is Celia.
I just wanted to phone in with a big thank you for the show and the insight and the humor that you guys provide.
I heard about you from my son, who's been an avid listener, and now I'm a senior citizen.
So I guess that's two generations that you've captured.
But I also want to thank you.
I've just finished the debate.
And, my God, I've got to thank you guys for taking one for the team.
So, big hug from Canada, socially distanced, of course, and stay safe and stay sane, and thank you for doing your work.
Bye now.
dan friesen
Shout out to our parent wants.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
How weird is that?
It's very weird.
It's so neat and unexpected, the idea that someone would...
I never thought anyone would like this show to begin with.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
But then the idea that someone would like it and then their parent would be able to enjoy it with them.
We've heard that from a couple of folks over the course of doing this show.
Way more than expected.
And, like, it's just really neat that there is some sort of a generational appeal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that there are parents out there who don't mind my potty mouth.
jordan holmes
Ah, nice, Dad.
No, that is interesting.
Like, I understand on a certain level because, you know, I can go watch a movie with my dad and the two of us will both appreciate this piece of culture in a similar way and we'll be like, yeah, this is enjoyable.
But not anything where it's like...
I'm talking about politics and shit.
Just that intergenerational sharing of...
It's very fascinating to me.
dan friesen
Our podcast is not a piece of culture.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
I think that's my point.
It is hard to view our podcast as something like that movie that you and your dad could go watch together.
dan friesen
I would say so.
And that's really cool.
unidentified
Hey, Dan.
Hey, Jordan.
My name is Mark, and I'm from Scotland.
I'm talking very slow, so hopefully you can understand what I'm saying.
I love the podcast.
Love you guys.
Keep up the good work.
I was calling about episode 460, Donk's Dojo, where you were discussing Donald Trump's dislike of wind farms.
Now, I believe I know why that is.
About ten years ago, Donald Trump was building a golf course in Scotland, in Aberdeen, my hometown.
I was actually involved in the project.
Now, at the same time, there was a wind farm being built off the coast of Aberdeen.
And Donald Trump did not like this one bit.
So he put on his face and he went to the Scottish Parliament and said, you need to stop this construction, otherwise these Chinese turbines are going to destroy your tourism industry.
Then when asked for evidence of this claim, he said, I am the evidence, which got a big laugh in the Scottish Parliament.
So he left.
He had a big bust-up with them.
He didn't get his way at all.
And, yeah, the Scottish Parliament decided that the best course of action was to build the world's largest turbine off the coast of Aberdeen, my hometown, in view of Trump's golf course, which I thought was bloody hilarious.
He didn't like it one bit, and I believe that's where his dislike of wind farms comes from, because he didn't get his way!
Anyway...
Keep up the good work.
Love you guys.
Peace out.
dan friesen
Shout out, Scotland.
jordan holmes
Yes, very much shout out, Scotland.
dan friesen
Love a Scottish brogue.
jordan holmes
I love it indeed.
dan friesen
Just a great accent.
My buddy, his dad had a real thick Scottish accent.
And one of the things that I always will cherish, very fond memory, is we'd go over to his house every now and again, and this is when we were in college, and his dad would insist that me and another friend of ours...
Drink scotch with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was obsessed with scotch whiskey.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Hated that I would drink like Jim Beam.
I was like, no, you gotta try this stuff.
You gotta try the good stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just the way the words roll out.
Goddamn.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Very, very beautiful.
dan friesen
Sorry to be all, what would you call it?
jordan holmes
Maudlin?
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
Nostalgic?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Lost in memory?
No.
Just a cutie.
unidentified
Objectifying.
dan friesen
I'm sorry to be objectifying of the Scottish accent.
jordan holmes
Okay, I gotcha.
dan friesen
Paul, I know that you're more than just that voice.
But I appreciate it.
jordan holmes
You are fetishizing the Scottish brogue.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's no good.
unidentified
I get it.
dan friesen
I apologize.
But also, I've heard that theory about Trump and wind farms before.
I think there's something to it.
unidentified
I like it.
Yeah.
Hello, guys.
It's all that you want.
Alexey Jonazov.
I hear show.
You thank me by full name.
Why you do this?
You think I am joke?
Now I am probably disappeared because of you.
It's okay.
I'm not mad.
Death comes through all.
Anyways, love from Russia.
Thank you for exposing lies of Alex Jones, with whom I share coincidentally similar name.
Bye-bye for now.
Also, Yves Quaka.
dan friesen
Just a good bit.
Just a well thought out bit.
jordan holmes
I'll give it.
dan friesen
I would be not surprised if that person wasn't from Russia.
But we should say that the person from Scotland is not a fake person doing a voice from Scotland.
And maybe that person is actually Russian and they're just still fucking around with a fake name.
jordan holmes
Or that's their real name.
dan friesen
I'm overwhelmed.
Anyway, we had to get out of here, Jordan, but we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
dan friesen
Yes, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at KnowledgeFight, and I go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
You can find us on Facebook.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
But if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm Weechius.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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