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Oct. 14, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#491: October 12, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Monday's episode of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex donates to a hopelessly doomed Congressional candidate on air, gives Johnny Rotten an honorary doctorate, and gets really bored with the Supreme Court nomination hearings.

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alex jones
12:26
d
dan friesen
45:47
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jordan holmes
24:07
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laura loomer
01:08
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
jordan holmes
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
Yeah, what's your bright spot, Dan?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is that I realized, I didn't know this.
unidentified
What's that?
dan friesen
I was vaguely aware that it was coming down the line, eventually, in the future.
There's going to be another Pikmin game.
jordan holmes
Sure, yes.
dan friesen
I love Pikmin.
jordan holmes
You love Pikmin?
dan friesen
I love Pikmin 2. I love Pikmin 3. It's great.
Yeah, there are great games where you're a space captain who has to make friends with little aliens that go around and help you solve puzzles.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a little bit like Lemmings, but for the modern world.
dan friesen
There's similarities.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I see a little bit of Lemmings in Pikmin.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, especially in the way that, like, Lemmings, they had, like, specializations.
Like, some could dig and some could jump.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
Some of these Pikmin are better at different, like, some can survive fire, some can go in the water.
jordan holmes
I like the idea that there are 19-year-olds listening to this right now going like, what the fuck are they talking about?
Lemmings?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
You weren't alive when Lemmings was around.
unidentified
Let me tell you something about a floppy disk, my friend!
dan friesen
If someone is 19 now, they might have been...
One or two when the first Pikmin came out?
That was like a launch title on the GameCube.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It was a long time ago.
dan friesen
Yeah, I remember playing the shit out of that back in those days.
I love those games, though.
They're really fun.
And it's a series, much like Donkey Kong Country, that I'm like, I will never not get amped.
For one of them to come out.
And at the end of October, the new one comes out.
I didn't realize it was that close.
That was really exciting to me.
It's within my reach almost.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's almost there.
Just reach out through time and grab it.
dan friesen
Very exciting.
jordan holmes
Call Eddie Page.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
I will not.
His prediction about the end of the world was wrong.
We can't trust him.
jordan holmes
You don't know that that's true.
dan friesen
I'm positive.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then after that, November, the Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity, the prequel to Breath of the Wild, Legend of Zelda, comes out.
There's two games I'm actually excited about.
In the near future.
jordan holmes
I like that.
I hope civilization lasts long enough for us to play those games.
That would be nice.
dan friesen
I hope that civilization lasts long enough for me to be maybe underwhelmed.
To get my expectations up a little too high.
jordan holmes
It's a pretty good game.
I feel like maybe I was a little bit too nostalgic.
But you know what?
It's still pretty good.
Nuclear bombs!
dan friesen
Hope society lasts long enough for me to make excuses for Pikmin.
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is yesterday.
The final season of Kipo in the Age of the Wonder Beasts came out.
I understand that you have no concept of that, but you know how I like Steven Universe and I like those kind of...
Kipo is of that same vein of ridiculous positivity will overcome goddamn any problem.
dan friesen
That's great.
jordan holmes
And the soundtrack is so goddamn good.
I have re-watched...
unidentified
Kipo?
jordan holmes
Kipo.
K-I-P-O.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
It's not Kupo and the Two Strings.
No.
Kupo and the Two Strings, which is a completely different movie.
This is a TV show, and it's just incredible.
dan friesen
I am overwhelmed by the amount of words I don't understand coming out of your mind.
unidentified
I understand.
jordan holmes
I get that.
dan friesen
I do like a nice soundtrack, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, it's one of the...
I've re-watched the first two seasons, I want to say, two or three times.
In the background, just because the soundtrack will kick in so many different great songs that you don't even need to watch the show.
The sound is just incredible.
I would highly recommend watching Kipo and the Age of the Wonder Beasts.
dan friesen
I'm not positive I'm going to watch it, but I'm going to look for that music.
Do it.
jordan holmes
Do it.
It's so good.
dan friesen
All right.
I'll check into it.
I'm excited.
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about October 12th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
unidentified
All right.
Goddamn.
dan friesen
That is Monday of this week.
Interesting stuff goes on.
Alex interviews a congressional candidate and...
I don't know.
Takes some dumb calls.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's some interesting stuff buried within, and we'll get down to business on it.
But first, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that sounds like a good idea.
dan friesen
So first, Rage Queen.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Rage Queen.
dan friesen
Next, Alex Jones' wife's tennis partner.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, AJTP.
WGWPT.
unidentified
Oh, damn it.
dan friesen
It's hard.
jordan holmes
So close.
So close.
dan friesen
Next, Jordan G. Thank you.
Ooh, terrible name.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fair enough.
dan friesen
This bit doesn't work when I'm doing that to donors.
Ah, shit.
Jordan G., thank you so much.
Great name.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Jordan.
dan friesen
Next, Mark Richards, Exhausting Pros.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Mark Richards Exhausting Pros.
Although I shall never thank Mark Richards Actual Exhausting Pros.
dan friesen
So you didn't try and make an acronym out of that one?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I gave up.
I gave up.
I quit early and often.
dan friesen
Next, Daddy Shark Bomp Bomp Bomp.
Not Bomp Bomp Bomp Bomp Bomp.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Or Bomp Bomp Bomp Bomp.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
But Daddy Shark Bomp Bomp Bomp.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Daddy Shark.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
And finally, I want to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level, and we appreciate that very much.
So first, the GreatBeast420.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Katrina W., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much to the great Beast 420, and thank you so much, Katrina.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support with these gents.
You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show, or...
jordan holmes
What you can do is you can go back to about the 1920s or so, isn't that about when it was?
dan friesen
What, the Federal Reserve?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
I just got stuck in my head now.
I'm not interested in the bit anymore.
In my head is the great...
I'm the great beast, Aleister Crowley.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
That's the play.
jordan holmes
Who's just getting high, you know?
Just like that thought of, I am the great beast, Aleister Crowley!
And I have some anxiety issues, and I just kind of want to relax today.
dan friesen
I don't know how to make a bong noise, but I was just trying.
jordan holmes
That was close.
That was more like the daddy shark, bop, bop, bop.
dan friesen
Nope.
It's kind of a bubbler.
jordan holmes
Anyways, you should take that generosity and give it to a local charity or a bail fund in your area.
dan friesen
I'm sorry that I tried to interrupt you there, but what I wanted to celebrate was that you've started now to get excited when I throw it to you.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Or you perk up.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, I just...
unidentified
You perk up.
dan friesen
It was very exciting to see.
jordan holmes
Still surprised.
That was actually just surprise.
You thought that it was like I had something that I was going with.
unidentified
It looked like it.
jordan holmes
But instead, I was like...
unidentified
Bail.
jordan holmes
See, I've told you, I am quitting early and often today, Dan.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Not following through with any bits.
dan friesen
So, one of the things that unfortunately got lost in the shuffle last week was, due to life getting in the way, was Alex's money bomb.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He had Money Bomb scheduled for Wednesday of last week, and I didn't end up watching much of it at all because of, you know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And thank you to everybody for being so kind.
I really appreciate it.
Things are good.
But I've heard from a couple people who checked in on it that it wasn't that great, and I find that very easy to believe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I am not surprised by that.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I assume Harrison Smith hosted about 20 hours of it, and the rest was just special reports, and then there are shows that Alex was on for, what, an extra hour that day?
Maybe.
I mean, I bet he showed up to hang out with Deanna Lorraine.
jordan holmes
Hey, give me somebody!
All right, guys, I gotta go.
Anyways, good luck with the next 40 hours.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I'm less interested in the content of it, necessarily, now that we're just sort of moving forward.
But I do think that Alex says something on this episode that I find also very unsurprising.
alex jones
There's good news happening internationally, good news happening nationally, and good news happening at InfoWars.
I never cry wolf to you, but a lot of times I can't tell you about the attacks we're under for a lot of reasons you can probably figure out.
But you've really come through and supported us with your prayer, your word of mouth, and your financial support while getting great products at the same time.
But we've had, in the last week, blessing after blessing happen.
All glory goes to God and His Son, Jesus Christ.
But I just want to thank you all for your prayers and your support because it's been really, really rough behind the scenes and really, really dark.
And really, really, we've been persecuted terribly.
But we stayed faithful to God and to you supporting us.
And we've just come through incredible times together.
And someday I'll be able to tell you about all this, but now is not the time.
dan friesen
Because all I hear there is, money bomb worked out.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Hey, I got enough money for now.
Hooray!
dan friesen
Whatever was motivating that, like, oh man, I'm not going to reorder supplies or whatever.
Whatever he was going through...
Has been solved by an inflow of cash that came around this money bomb.
jordan holmes
I'm really excited about this inflow of cash that I can funnel into my dad's fake business so I can hide it from my eventual creditors.
unidentified
Or pay these lawyers that these bills are coming up on.
dan friesen
Whatever it is.
This is too transparent.
jordan holmes
I can't tell you about...
dan friesen
I'll tell you about it later.
That's because it's a scam.
jordan holmes
I can't tell you about why we're under so many attacks and how they're definitely not involved with my personal lawsuits, including family lawsuits, as well as all the crimes that I've committed that I'm finally being taken to task for.
I will tell you more about what Satan is doing to me later.
dan friesen
One day I'll tell you all about this when I'm laughing about it in hindsight about how nuts it was that I pulled all this off.
But for now, that'll jeopardize the scam that I'm running tomorrow or next week.
So we'll get to that later.
We start off the show here with Alex talking about his big old news.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's a lot of big news.
jordan holmes
That Trump is fueled by abortions, right?
dan friesen
Well, no, but we will actually end up touching on that a tiny bit.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex wants to.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course not.
dan friesen
But it's thrust into his lap.
He doesn't deal with it well.
jordan holmes
That doesn't surprise me.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert for towards the end of the show.
But there's big news afoot.
It's always interesting the way that Alex chooses to start shows.
Because it's like, well, this is what you're coming out the gate with.
And this is what he's got.
alex jones
You know, I've got so much news to cover.
So many angles.
I want to take calls.
I've got a bunch of special guests.
I'll tell you about that next segment.
But I really think we should just open up the transmission with this.
Because when you see a semantical headline, what's really behind that headline?
And we could talk for several hours just about this one headline.
jordan holmes
Does he mean hypothetical?
alex jones
I'm about to play.
Bill Maher on Friday night with his program confronts Adam Schiff about mass exodus from California.
But it's not a mass exodus from California.
People aren't mass exiting the topography or the beaches or the climate.
There's an exodus from leftist, globalist, chi-com looting and control.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
That's what people are engaged in.
dan friesen
So it's Bill Maher.
unidentified
Great.
jordan holmes
I don't like how the right keeps pushing people, like, hey, you're over there.
Like, we don't have to take him.
I don't want Bill Maher.
They can have him.
You guys take Bill Maher.
Yeah, yeah, let's all push the shitty people over to conservatives.
Here's what Bill Maher is.
Bill Maher is a right-wing conservative.
Done.
It's over.
dan friesen
You know what's really interesting?
I always find, too, Alex builds all these straw men off Bill Maher speaking for the left.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But that doesn't bring up any of the times that Bill Maher is super shitty about marginalized groups.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't bring up any of that stuff.
They'd be like, wait, doesn't that mean that the left hates Islam?
jordan holmes
Bill Maher is on the radical left.
Now, I agree with him that all Muslims should be murdered, but I think he's on the radical left, Dan.
dan friesen
So, according to the U.S. Census, the population has been increasing in California pretty consistently, with approximately 1% increase this year.
You could talk about how, like, increases in population have decreased, like, decrease and increase.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But that's, you know, whatever.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Alex is misrepresenting the impulse that people he likes, like Joe Rogan, have.
They want to flee California to...
Right around the time they start a $100 million Spotify deal in order to pay less taxes.
jordan holmes
He was fleeing towards money.
You can flee towards a better opportunity, right?
That's how it works.
dan friesen
Some folks are doing this overly dramatic I'm leaving act.
People like Dave Rubin.
There's that sort of character.
And then there are some businesses who are looking to take advantage of increasing city sizes around the country, hoping to set up operations on the ground floor of a possible future metropolis.
There's also a lot of talk about normal working people wanting to leave, largely due to COVID-19 related employment issues, but it's too early to really have concrete data on that.
A lot of the information that you can find comes from anecdotal stories and Facebook posts, so we're going to have to wait to have any real idea about it.
Much of the people who may actually make the move out of the state are people who work in the tech industry, who may be able to continue working these decent jobs remotely, but then live in states where they'd be paying way less in rent and cost of living expenses.
The big tech companies that Alex professes to hate wouldn't be hurt by this, but the normal working people who can't afford to move could be, as well as the people in the areas that those people end up moving to since cost of living would likely increase as the previously more sparsely populated areas become more densely populated.
This is a conversation that's largely being sensationalized by the right-wing media type, so it's no surprise to see Bill Maher getting in on the act.
And yet again, Bill Maher shows somehow the most important thing for Alex to discuss.
Doesn't he have high-level sources and a depth of information that he has from years of studying that he could be getting into instead of this dumb shit?
From the October 9th rating guide, you'll find that Bill Maher's real-time program had about 1.23 million viewers.
This is less viewers than pretty much every news program on cable, and honestly not many more viewers than an episode of Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives.
If you only count the 18-49 year old demographic, Guy Fieri trounced Bill Maher.
Point is, I'd like Alex to stop over-exaggerating the importance of Bill Maher.
He only does that because Bill Maher works as a perfect straw man for him to pretend speaks for his enemies, when in reality most people I've ever met who consider themselves of the left think Bill Maher sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
I'm appreciative of the career transformation that Guy Fieri has had in terms of public perception.
Everybody was like, ah, this guy's a weirdo punchline, and then people discovered that he's a fucking great person, and they're like, goddammit, I guess we all love him now.
We get Guy Fieri.
You guys can have Bill Maher.
dan friesen
That's the rule now.
And it's all thanks to Shane Torres.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Comedian.
jordan holmes
Just all of a sudden, he's just like, guys, Guy Fieri's awesome, and then everybody...
Everybody goes, oh shit, you're right.
dan friesen
Damn it.
jordan holmes
Man, why were we such a dick to him?
Are we all bullies?
dan friesen
It's because of the hair, the mannerisms, the sunglasses on the back of the head.
It's understandable why, optically, you'd be like, fuck this guy.
jordan holmes
Fuck this guy.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Like, if you saw Jimmy Buffett walking down the street, you'd be like, ah, fuck that guy.
dan friesen
You learn a little bit more about him.
jordan holmes
And you're like, ah, well, he can go fuck himself, but he's no Guy Fieri.
dan friesen
No, I mean, he wrote, fins to the left, fins to the right.
He sucks.
Yep.
So, Alex has another headline, but apparently not important, like the Bill Maher, I mean, like...
If it was, you'd think that would be the first thing he'd cover, but it's not.
Second thing.
alex jones
Look at these headlines from yesterday.
Global bombshell.
UN says COVID restrictions and lockdowns are killing millions.
Must stop.
This all broke on Saturday at Infowars.com and GatewayPundit.com also broke it.
dan friesen
So, firstly, this headline that Alex is reading, it's not an article on InfoWars.
It's just the page of his that has the Sunday show embedded as a video on his website.
And thus, he's just written a headline that he's now reading, which is apparently supported by a two-hour video of himself yelling, which is meaningless.
This means nothing.
Second, neither InfoWars nor Gateway Pundit broke this story.
They're reporting on an interview that Andrew Neal did with Dr. David Nabarro, who is the World Health Organization's special envoy on COVID-19.
The interview was published by The Spectator, so if anyone gets credit for this story, it's them.
This isn't the bombshell that Alex is trying to present it as, either.
This is an interview that's easy to take out of context, but what Dr. Nabarro is expressing was that the World Health Organization doesn't support, quote, using lockdown as your primary control method.
He's clear that lockdowns are appropriate when you have to quote, buy time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted.
None of this seems at all out of sync with the messaging that I've been seeing.
There's a reason that there was no need for any talk of lockdown when there were other outbreaks in the past, and that's because appropriate action was taken so it never got so bad that lockdowns were needed to buy that time.
There isn't a lockdown in the United States, but the measures that have been taken were necessary because the situation was completely bungled and continues to be.
Anyway, this World Health Organization envoy didn't say anything that is somehow damning to the UN or World Health Organization's position on the coronavirus response.
It's just something that looks close enough to that that Alex can create this narrative, and it takes, like, this is, he just keeps hitting this, like, they've admitted it's all bad and they're killing everybody!
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Like, when I was telling you about Kipo and the Wonder Beasts and Kubo and the Two Strings, and you were like, I'm thrown off by the barrage of words that I have no context for.
I keep thinking of how that must be how right-wing people feel all the time.
Anytime they read one of those interviews, they're just like, I don't understand you!
But for you, you're curious.
You're like, okay, well, let's see what this is all about.
And for them, they're like, what if I killed it?
I just want to kill you because I don't understand your words.
dan friesen
Well, I imagine that the people who are...
Like, in Alex's world, or in, like, consumers of this straight-up right-wing media bullshit.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Like, they see an article in a news outlet, and they're as bewildered as I was hearing those words.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Which is the same as any normal person probably listening to Alex for the first time.
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yes, very much.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just a complete, like, I...
I don't understand.
jordan holmes
We're trapped in different realities at all times, and the only people who are at all interesting are the ones who are curious about other realities, and the ones who aren't interesting want to kill the rest of us!
dan friesen
I am an InfoWars daywalker.
I can translate.
jordan holmes
I walk between worlds.
dan friesen
And here, I'd like to translate for you.
My next clip is just...
Titled, This Show is Dumb.
Because I've gotten to a certain point where I'm listening to this and I'm like, this show's stupid.
Why does Alex even do this?
alex jones
They're troublemakers.
And so they're not even what you can think of as a liberal.
Thomas Jefferson was a liberal.
He said small government, rugged individualism.
These people want government to micromanage every fast in your life and have you wear a bubble when you go outside and just engage in constant fraud.
They're scammers.
They're magicians.
They're fraudsters.
They're not a magician you pay at a dinner party to do some fun tricks with his lovely assistant who's wearing fishnets.
These are scammers that brainwash your children and take control of your society and set up frauds.
dan friesen
He's on his face.
jordan holmes
I didn't.
Yeah, they're scamming you because there are no ladies in fishnets, Dan.
dan friesen
These fake liberals, they're magicians, but not fun magicians.
alex jones
Not the good kind.
jordan holmes
Not the kind who pull a rabbit out of a hat very innocently.
The kind who whisper nothings to God.
dan friesen
Yeah, thank God he doesn't use a teleprompter.
Let's go ramble about goddamn magicians.
unidentified
Witches.
dan friesen
So the UN, apparently, is admitting that, you know, they're doing this whole thing.
They're going to go and kill people.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And, you know, because of the distancing and all the coronavirus stuff.
Of course.
So Alex talks about how big this is, that they're finally admitting this.
alex jones
Super good news that the UN is being forced to cover their butt and say, OK, the lockdown is killing 10, 20, 30, 40 times what COVID is.
It needs to stop all the social distancing, the end of the economy.
It's causing a planetary collapse.
It's going to flood the West.
But of course, they've already triggered this.
So now they want to act like they're fighting what they've already created.
But at least we forced them earlier than they would to come out and stay in the lockdowns.
Now their solutions are going to be implantable chips, forced inoculations, contact tracers, and tracking apps.
That's all admitted.
dan friesen
That was supposed to be their plan originally.
What about Plan B?
The releasing a super bioweapon?
jordan holmes
I still think that maybe we're actually all dead.
Maybe we've already died.
dan friesen
Has Alex forgot that he said that their plan is to orderly kill us?
jordan holmes
He was in a bad mood, Dad!
dan friesen
He seems to have forgotten that there's a Plan B. He's in a better mood!
Right.
And now...
jordan holmes
The plan is different.
dan friesen
Yeah, and now not everyone's gonna die.
You're gonna have to crawl out of the rubble and find George Soros.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Now, uh-oh, we forced their hand and they're gonna have to go to vaccines, which is...
jordan holmes
We got them!
dan friesen
What?
I don't even understand the stakes anymore.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
We're all going to die, except we'll all be fine, except they are going to continue killing us, but you should give him money.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So China is taking over the sea.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
All the seas?
dan friesen
The South China Sea.
jordan holmes
South China Sea.
dan friesen
And they're aggressing on some folks for oil, and that's not good.
alex jones
You look at China, it's right here, and then there's...
I don't need to imagine it!
It's the noose.
dan friesen
How do you say these things, Alex?
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
Of course I can imagine it!
dan friesen
What is your early career?
What are you doing?
Can you imagine the U.S. sending in the military in oil?
jordan holmes
Can you imagine the U.S. sending in troops and overthrowing a government of its own democratically elected people in order to install a right-wing dictator who is more positive towards American-U.S.
interests?
No!
Oh, of course you can't imagine that, Dan!
dan friesen
I mean, even in Alex's current form, part of his worldview does involve the overthrow of the Shah in Iran.
So this doesn't make any sense.
jordan holmes
No, no.
It is fun how we always talk about how Iran is a big boogeyman, and it's like, we never talk about how it's our fault.
alex jones
Every part of it.
dan friesen
I think some people do talk about that.
jordan holmes
Some people do, but it should probably be more spoken of.
dan friesen
Sure, and hey, look, there's issues with more competent people than I could get into about China and their actions.
I'm not undercutting that or minimizing it.
I think it's a real-life issue, but it's just funny to hear Alex say stuff like this.
He's like, what?
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
Do you think they ever talk about that in those high-level meetings?
Who?
You know, whenever they're talking to Khamenei or something like that, where it's just like, hey, man, you wouldn't even have your fucking job if we didn't overthrow the good government.
So how about that?
How about that?
Don't stop causing problems for us, man.
dan friesen
I would bet that tone and conversation probably doesn't happen.
I would guess.
jordan holmes
I think it'd be fun.
I don't think I'm allowed in high-level talks these days.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
No, probably not.
dan friesen
So, you got celebrities, they got opinions.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Certainly, we know that.
Alex complains about every left-wing or non-crazy right-wing, non-extreme right-wing.
jordan holmes
Unless they're talking to an empty chair, he doesn't want to hear about celebrities.
dan friesen
Exactly.
And we got another celebrity who's metaphorically talking to an empty chair, and now Alex fucking loves punk rock.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
That's coming up, but first...
I thought I'd hit this article.
It's up on InfoWars.com.
The full interview's there.
We'll just play a short clip.
Sex Pistols' Johnny Rotten says, of course I'm voting for Trump because he's a rebel.
You can see the whole system's against Trump.
He goes on to say that Biden is obviously senile, has dementia.
He goes, my wife has Alzheimer's.
I know what it looks like.
He doesn't know where he is sometimes.
He's out of his mind.
And the media says back to Johnny Rotten, oh, how do you know you're not a doctor?
dan friesen
Yeah, Johnny Rotten.
unidentified
Why won't the media respect Johnny Rotten's medical opinions?
jordan holmes
I just don't care.
Oh, Johnny Rotten.
I don't care if Iggy Pop was voting for Jill Stein.
I just don't care, man.
dan friesen
I just think it's remarkable that Alex is like, fuck yeah, Johnny Rotten.
jordan holmes
I just don't.
I just don't.
Man, it's not, it shouldn't be that easy.
You can't just be like, okay, this person has one political opinion one time I agree with, so now their entire thing is heroic.
dan friesen
Isn't, like, the Sex Pistols, like, their biggest song, Anarchy?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
In the UK?
jordan holmes
It's one of their biggest songs, yes.
dan friesen
So the Galaxy is super against and doesn't understand anarchy in any form?
jordan holmes
Imagine if you were in favor of anarchy, you might take the long approach towards voting for Trump and be like, this is the best way to collapse all governments.
dan friesen
Yeah, you might, but Alex also is very explicit that he hates anarchy, and he believes that it's just chaos as opposed to absence of rulers.
Right.
So, Alex...
Did some weird stuff when he was covering the fact that Trump had been diagnosed with COVID.
He was all over the place.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And now he's trying to, like, pretend like, eh, I didn't say that.
alex jones
I got another big USA Today fat check where Jones says doctors are trying to kill Trump at Walter Reed.
I said they're either trying to kill him or they're idiots because all these scientists say you don't want to cross these true experimental drugs.
It doesn't hear enough is dangerous.
It's a figure of speech.
Thank God the president's okay.
But in the report, I said either they're trying to kill him or they're idiots.
dan friesen
It's not a figure of speech.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So what's fascinating here is that we're trying to kill him.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a figure of speech.
dan friesen
I meant it.
Ah, come on.
Metaphorically.
How?
I meant it politically.
jordan holmes
In a medical scenario, there's no other...
dan friesen
I meant it metaphysically.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
So what's fascinating to me here is that what's actually severely out of context is Alex's version of his own coverage of the coronavirus diagnosis.
Immediately, Alex reported that it was probably a false positive test result, which the globalists had somehow created in order to provide cover for them to poison Trump and blame it on COVID-19.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
When this narrative became unsustainable because Trump went to Walter Reed Hospital and it was becoming clear that claiming it was a false positive was going to be too hard to pull off, Alex shifted the story to being about how the doctors at Walter Reed were either trying to kill Trump or they were so incompetent they were going to do so accidentally.
However, the story that Alex appeared to land on on his October 4th show when he was crying on air about his fantasy Christian jihad with Greg Reese and John Bowne was that someone had sprayed Trump with a weaponized version of the coronavirus in an attempt to kill.
Indeed.
Not yet.
unidentified
Not yet.
jordan holmes
I'm still hoping.
dan friesen
Sure.
Sure.
do damage control.
His audience has already forgotten all that bullshit that he said in those previous days, and if anyone does remember, he can pretend he was looking at the issue from all sides.
He wasn't.
He was trying to sensationalize the story to the greatest extent possible in a way that profited his business, and now it all looks really dumb, and even Alex fucking mad.
jordan holmes
I wonder if he was rooting for Trump to die.
I think that would solve a lot of his problems.
If Trump died, so many problems would actually just float away and so many opportunities would appear for him.
Now he's the guy who's fucking fighting the people who killed the president.
If I were him, I would be praying for Trump's death.
dan friesen
It creates a new set of problems.
jordan holmes
And if I were me, I would be praying for Trump's death.
dan friesen
I think if you're Alex, it does solve some problems, but the way in which...
Like, his rhetoric has worked.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it creates an expectation in the audience of you getting on a horse and leading a charge.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
You know, like, if you don't do that, you're gonna lose at least some considerable portion of those people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you would think that, but...
He said that if there was any positive diagnosis, and then there was, and he was just like, they're trying to kill him, and even that wasn't enough for them to be like, okay, well, let's do something.
dan friesen
Well, because it was an attempt.
jordan holmes
Well, they sprayed him in the face with COVID.
dan friesen
It was an attempt.
jordan holmes
Ah, come on.
dan friesen
Trump's a stud.
He survived.
He's just that good.
It's like Trump's you can't kill a bull moose moment.
jordan holmes
Oh man, what is it going to take for these guys to just die?
Can't we just let them all go?
They've been denying there was a problem.
You should deny them medical care.
I think we should never have allowed them near doctors.
Because their doctors are trying to kill him.
Let's just tell the right the doctors are trying to kill all of the senators.
dan friesen
They already do believe that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That's a mess.
jordan holmes
God, I hate them.
dan friesen
So, this next clip I find really strange, especially in light of the revelations that the New York Times has released about their analysis of Trump's tax returns.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
If I were Alex, I'd just stay away from territory like this.
alex jones
It came out Jeff Bezos paid no taxes this year or last year.
I pay more taxes than Jeff Bezos.
jordan holmes
And the president.
alex jones
Because I don't make what a professional baseball player makes.
It's all these rumors.
I have this fabulous wealth and all this crap.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
I put my money into the operation.
jordan holmes
And boats.
alex jones
What I'm getting at is, imagine I pay more taxes.
Okay.
A guy that owns a small restaurant that maybe makes $200,000 a year.
He pays 40% in the federal, pays local tax, state tax, property tax.
He's paying about 65%.
So he's keeping 80 grand?
And that's supposedly upper middle class today, okay?
He pays more than Jeff Bezos.
But Jeff Bezos funds Black Lives Matter for hundreds of millions of dollars, just like Tim Cook is.
dan friesen
Why even go into this territory?
It seems like exposing a vulnerable underbelly, a very clear, like, No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Bezos doesn't pay taxes because he's evil and he funds Black Lives Matter.
Trump doesn't pay taxes because he's super smart and funds conservatives.
Actually, he doesn't even do that.
He creates fake universities and steals their money.
That's why he's smart and a good president, Dan.
dan friesen
It seems like an unnecessary gripe.
To have about Bezos or Tim Cook?
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I think it's a very necessary gripe to have about Bezos.
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
It's a bad one for him to talk about.
dan friesen
That's what I mean.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Unnecessary for Alex.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Seems like just go ahead and drop your complaints about their taxpaying behaviors.
jordan holmes
It is kind of a...
Man, it's just so unfair that they can just refuse to cede ground even though they're meaningless nonsense.
Just like, yeah, I'm going to be pissed at Bezos for not paying taxes.
Sure, the president doesn't, and I think he's a god.
But I'm really mad at Bezos, and I don't see any problem with that, because the president is a god, and he shouldn't have to pay taxes.
But Bezos funds Black Lives Matter now, obviously, the president.
Like, fuck off.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's sort of a descending charade, where eventually you get to the bottom, and it's like, Bezos funds Black Lives Matter, or he donates to Black Lives Matter, and that's actually what I'm mad about.
But I'm going to make it more presentable by compliance.
Yeah.
So, Alex, he's got a little bee in his bonnet about Antifa, and he has a story out of Germany that he tries to make connected, and it is not.
alex jones
But, I mean, this is an article that just went up on Infowars.com with video.
German police raid Antifa squad house in Berlin.
InfoWars Europe report from the scenes of a clash between German police, that's EuropeWars.com, and Antifa in Berlin.
After authorities evicted dozens of left-wing radicals from a squad house that had been occupied for decades.
Decades.
German MP Peter Berstrand explains that 2,500 officers were deployed in the capital to mitigate violence riots by Antifa who had summoned...
Reinforcers around Europe?
dan friesen
This was not an Antifa building.
jordan holmes
No.
Did Antifa buy buildings recently?
No.
dan friesen
And for decades?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think so.
dan friesen
Oh, we need reinforcements!
So Alex is just lying.
jordan holmes
Summoning reinforcements.
dan friesen
I'm sure, actually, whoever wrote this, I think it was probably Dan Lyman over at Europe Wars, he's lying.
And then Alex doesn't know anything, so he's just reading this lie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
Anyway, this is about an anarcho-queer feminist housing project in Berlin called Liebig 34. The building faced foreclosure in 2008, whereupon it was purchased, and the residents were offered a 10-year lease at really good rates to continue that same housing project.
This lease ended in 2018, and by this point, I guess the owners had changed their minds, and they didn't want to extend the lease agreement into the future.
The residents didn't want to leave, so they filed some lawsuits, and in June of this year, 2020, the German courts ruled that the owner had the right to evict the tenants, but that they couldn't be removed from the premises immediately.
Tenants didn't want to leave still, and they continued squatting.
This came to a head earlier this month, and police were called to clear out the building.
I don't know.
or George Soros or the globalists.
This is honestly a pretty simple lease issue that surrounds an anarcho-queer feminist housing project in Berlin and Alex's line Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I just...
Oh, you kicking us out?
I'll burn it behind us.
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
You see the...
jordan holmes
Take it down.
dan friesen
The building looks really cool, too.
It's all spray-painted up.
jordan holmes
Of course.
And, you know, landlords are great, and they're definitely not going to ruin it, and I'm sure that their rent prices will stay the same.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that that's probably a large part of the story, is that they had a really good 10-year rate that they were paying.
And it's like, oh shit, this is really valuable real estate.
And I mean, it sucks, because from everything I can tell, it does seem like that was something that was really cool and meant a lot to a lot of folks.
And, you know, it sucks that something like that that's existed for so long gets swallowed up in the name of probably...
A cleaner-looking building and better rent rates.
jordan holmes
With a fucking bank.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Whatever it is.
dan friesen
It sucks, too, that, like, you know, someone buying the building and offering 10-year leases 10 years ago is really cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It sucks that that did happen, and it's, you know, it comes to this.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex wants to complain a bit about Brian Stelter in this next clip.
jordan holmes
That's new.
alex jones
These people are sick, man.
They all look like Brian Stelter.
You know, like the little flashcards for kids.
Like, that's a lion.
That's a seal.
That's a puppy.
That's a whale.
You know, that's a bear.
That's a chicken.
That's a pedophile.
jordan holmes
Give five more examples.
alex jones
That's a demon pervert.
jordan holmes
There you go.
alex jones
That's a psychotic.
I mean, I'm not saying he's a pedophile.
I'm just saying if I was going to cast money for being a pedophile in a movie, I mean, or hit the clown without makeup.
I mean, look at that.
jordan holmes
Totally self-unaware.
alex jones
Total creepazoid.
You know women just run from him.
Imagine.
Because I watch the videos.
He'll walk into like a party at a Hollywood deal where they've got footage of cameras going and he'll literally walk around making this weird, crazy smile bugging his eyes out.
And you just see people like partying away from like, ugh, who's this?
Well, it's Chucky the Clown.
Look at that.
unidentified
It's Chucky the Clown?
What?
I like the idea of people partying away from Brian Stelter.
jordan holmes
I do like the idea of Brian Stelter coming near and then them just doing a little smooth dance backwards away from him.
dan friesen
And Alex has seen the videos.
jordan holmes
Why?
What?
Who is giving you their home surveillance tapes?
dan friesen
Yeah, why are you watching that?
jordan holmes
Also, do you have the one where Reagan gets pegged?
That I would like to know.
dan friesen
Bob Chapman took that to the grave.
jordan holmes
God damn it, Bob Chapman.
Leave one behind.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is really silly and stupid.
And honestly, I was getting to a point where, like, when I was listening to that, I was like, there's no reason for us to really play this on the show.
Alex talks about Brian Stelter looking creepy all the time.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And the reason I did was to provide an opportunity to say something that I've been thinking for a long time and I haven't really brought to the show.
jordan holmes
They should have named the clown It.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Succinctly, yes.
dan friesen
No, it's that...
I don't think that people realize how much I have to just ignore in order to make our show listenable.
There's so much...
I was like, man, if I wanted to, I could be so much worse to Alex.
I was lost in thought while I was preparing this episode that I was like, man, I'm pretty generous.
Yeah.
There's so much racist and horrible shit that I just have to turn away because it's like, well, we've already made the point over and over and over again.
jordan holmes
It does seem like we will face consequences for being redundant and boring about...
Pointing out the same thing over and over and over again, whereas he gets rewarded nonstop for it.
That's another one of those unfairnesses towards trying to create something good.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And it works in his favor, and we just kind of have to accept that.
So Alex goes to calls, and this one guy is a little off base.
unidentified
We've been seeing since the George Floyd riots is basically crystal knot in the USA, where in Nazi Germany in 1938, you have the brown shirts break in and round up thousands of Jewish men in a number of days.
And we've been seeing this in a number of months.
And, you know, I had to question, you know, when we look back in history, a hundred years from now, are we going to see that during this time...
jordan holmes
Yes, we do!
alex jones
Did you hear Keith Olbermann saying, I want to arrest all his supporters?
I want to destroy them?
I want to annihilate them?
I don't care!
dan friesen
Yeah, I think it's profoundly offensive what this caller is suggesting for a number of reasons.
jordan holmes
Oh, uncountable.
dan friesen
Man, Bill Maher, Keith Olbermann...
jordan holmes
You can have Keith, too!
Take him!
dan friesen
I can't tell you how goddamn excited the right wing is that Keith Olbermann started a YouTube channel.
jordan holmes
Oh, they love that shit.
Fuck off!
dan friesen
I've seen so much anger about it, but it's that kind of anger that's the same thing like complaining about Hillary Clinton.
It's like what Alex loves to do.
It's like, fuck yeah, Keith Olbermann's back.
jordan holmes
I'm in my sweet spot.
This is where I belong.
dan friesen
I can't complain about Keith Olbermann talking about baseball, but I can complain about...
Ugh.
Great!
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
So get ready for that.
Get ready for Keith Olbermann to piss Alex off a whole bunch.
jordan holmes
See, that's the other...
I want most of that generation...
Like, if you were in politics in the 90s, just go away.
Just disappear.
Like, Hillary, gone!
I don't care about your podcast.
You have nothing valuable to say.
Get the fuck out of here.
Keith Olbermann, get the fuck out of here.
Bill Maher, get the fuck out of here.
Congress, get the fuck out of here!
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think that you might be...
I mean, certainly I don't want to see Keith Olbermann anymore.
But I think someone like Hillary probably does have a lot to offer in terms of insight.
I'm sure.
But yeah, Keith Olbermann and Bill Maher, maybe.
jordan holmes
Just go away, man.
dan friesen
Or be more aware of the ways in which basically your content exists to anger right-wingers in a way that profits right-wingers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's not angering them in a way that's actually trolling them or anything.
It's basically creating material that they can respond to and create false versions of arguments that they can pretend to be on the right side of.
jordan holmes
They are only a net...
Negative.
There's no positive thing that they do that counteracts how negative their presence is.
dan friesen
I'm sure someone likes Keith Olbermann's YouTube channel.
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
I have a hard time disagreeing with you.
So anyway, the globalists are going to destroy everything, right?
But maybe not.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
But maybe not.
jordan holmes
I don't know anymore.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, you have lived to see it.
You have lived to see world government allied with the Communist Chinese, the EU, and Hollywood.
Making their move against the American Republic and openly trying to overthrow the very existence of the nation, trying to outlaw Christianity, trying to annihilate the family.
But the good news is our forebearers, and many of you watching and listening before I was even around, and myself for 30 years, 26 on air, have been knowing this was coming, have been tracking it, and have been ready.
We've been dug in the whole time.
We've been warning others.
We've been preparing.
And we are not being caught flat-footed, so I salute you all for keeping us all in defense posture to be ready for this, because now we've got a good shot at beating them.
dan friesen
What about Plan B?
jordan holmes
We've got a good shot at beating them.
dan friesen
What about Plan B?
jordan holmes
We were already dead a few weeks ago, right?
unidentified
Plan B was about to happen because you ruined Plan A. That's all he's talking about.
dan friesen
We might have a chance of beating Plan A. But we're already past Plan A. Yeah.
Plan B exists.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex has talked about it.
There's a second plan, which is everyone dies.
jordan holmes
Why is incoherence a solid strategy?
You know?
That is amazing to me that there is like, okay, why try and use language to clarify things?
dan friesen
I think it's because a lot of this is emotional.
Alex is connecting with the listeners on an emotional fear level.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And emotions aren't always rational or coherent.
Whatever you feel can resonate with Alex, even if he's contradicting himself all the time.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
In a way that if you're actually paying attention to the things he's saying, he's making all this up.
jordan holmes
This is nonsense.
dan friesen
He made up plan A and plan B. Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Both of them, you know he made up because they're terrible and would never work.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So, speaking of emotions, I think Alex's changes within the span of 20 seconds in a way that kind of terrified me.
unidentified
Hi, how are you?
alex jones
Sir, I'm very optimistic.
Things are bad, but we're turning the corner, I think.
What do you think?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, it's looking good.
I mean, I know that they are really scared of what Trump's doing, and you can just see the fear in their eyes.
alex jones
Exactly.
Schiff and all of them know they're a bunch of dirty crooks.
unidentified
They're scared, which makes them dangerous, but they also now know that they're not invincible anymore!
dan friesen
Sounds optimistic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's great.
That's great.
dan friesen
Should have been like the caller being like, hey, how are you doing, Alex?
About to be angry.
About to be real fucking angry.
jordan holmes
I'm feeling optimistic.
About my rage!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Chances are looking good for me to yell!
So this caller...
jordan holmes
Signs point to yes.
dan friesen
This caller plugs Alex's iodine.
And Alex wants to get in on plugging that iodine.
And he does so in a very family-friendly way.
alex jones
I mean, I don't want to get graphic as a family show, but...
jordan holmes
Aidan makes your dick big.
alex jones
I've got more virility.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
Is that actually what he's doing?
alex jones
God damn it!
jordan holmes
I was being...
alex jones
I mean, here's the deal.
You know, I'm like 15, 16. I'm like, man, I'm really well endowed.
By the time I was like 30-something and burnt out and tired, I'm like, man, I don't...
I mean, you know, when I get in bed with my wife or whatever, things aren't like they used to be.
Man, I went on Aidan within weeks.
I'm like, whoa, I'm 15 years old again.
What the hell?
And it's just right then, you know, wow.
And then you're like, oh, yeah.
But it was all done in the group explaining to me all of it.
dan friesen
Alex, the globalists are going to kill everybody.
Your boners don't matter.
jordan holmes
Iodine makes you fuck good!
Anyways, plan B, we're all going to die.
But try some of my iodine!
I can't believe that that was exactly what I was being facetious about.
dan friesen
I thought you were being sincere.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
When you said it was a family show, here's what I was expecting.
I was expecting him to accidentally say, like, shit.
Or even, like, throw an accidental F-bomb in there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I was like, oh, wouldn't it be funny if he was like, iodine makes...
Because that doesn't make any fucking sense.
And then he fucking went there.
Great.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Great news show talking about your dong.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Brian Stelter is evil and he's a pedophile, but if you take iodine, you got a big old dick!
dan friesen
And Alex has to be aware that children are listening because he constantly says it's a family show and 13-year-olds have called in and here he is talking about his dick.
jordan holmes
Well, he's trying to sell iodine to 13-year-olds, I guess.
dan friesen
They don't need it.
When you're in your teens, you get boners for no reason.
You don't need iodine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but think about if you had iodine on top of that, you'd have a nonstop boner.
dan friesen
It would have been too much.
jordan holmes
Nah, just enough.
dan friesen
So, jumping away from that topic, Alex gets into a new COVID conspiracy with a caller, which I think is going to be problems.
alex jones
What was your political point, Todd?
unidentified
Well, I really think that we don't know if the virus still exists at all.
I had family members, a bunch of family members that got really sick in 2018 at the end and also through 2019.
Some of them actually almost died.
And I think that we may have possibly already seen this virus completely.
alex jones
Everybody, exactly.
I had family.
Three of them died six years ago.
The hospitals everywhere were full of dead bodies.
This was a real pandemic that covered it up.
COVID-19, as it's known, has already been around for many years.
dan friesen
Wait, so...
Six years ago.
2014?
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
Are you telling me that COVID both does not exist and also has been around for a long time?
dan friesen
And killed three of Alex's family members six years ago.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
Nah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I find this to be an unsustainable level of conspiracy.
jordan holmes
That's insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's just nuts.
dan friesen
It doesn't exist anymore, but it did in the past when my relative got sick in 2018.
jordan holmes
What if they could have said something else?
dan friesen
You have proven nothing by telling me that your family member got sick two years ago.
jordan holmes
I just, like, we don't even have any evidence COVID is still around?
What are we doing?
dan friesen
It probably isn't, though, really.
jordan holmes
I don't know!
How do I think about it?
unidentified
I think that, to your point that you've made before, I think that it's already retrograded out completely.
I don't think it exists anymore.
That's my honest point.
alex jones
Absolutely.
If you take the death of flu and pneumonia...
They're not counting it in Europe or here either.
It's all UN controlled.
You take that number, add it to COVID, it fits exactly.
So they're just counting everything as COVID.
God bless you, brother.
dan friesen
So Alex can't, like, he can't act that way.
When a caller's like, I don't think COVID even exists anymore.
And Alex would be like, absolutely.
To, like, later pretend that, like, I didn't say that COVID doesn't exist.
You just did.
You said that to a caller.
jordan holmes
You literally just said that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You also said that it never existed.
dan friesen
Wow.
You also said that- Maybe it did six years ago.
jordan holmes
It existed in the past.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You said that just then that they're not even counting flu deaths.
So what you're saying then to that caller is, your dumb family could have died of the fucking flu.
dan friesen
Maybe, but it's COVID.
Maybe in the past, but it doesn't exist anymore.
And also, I have iodine through a boner.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
You win.
You've beaten me down.
dan friesen
We get another dumb caller here.
unidentified
Did you know that the CDC is trading on the stock market?
I didn't know.
I just found that out last week.
alex jones
I did.
Tell folks about that.
unidentified
So we should start defunding them and take away the tax exempt, the 501c3.
dan friesen
So this caller doesn't explain that, and Alex said, yeah, I do know that, when the caller said that the CDC is traded on the stock market.
Do you think that's true?
jordan holmes
Man, isn't it a branch of the federal government?
Thus, I suppose, if the federal government is traded on the stock market as some sort of bond yield thing?
dan friesen
I know that I have six shares in the State Department.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like, what are we doing here?
The CDC?
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So there's a stock that's traded using the initial CDC, but it's not the Centers for Disease Control.
That's just the stock ticker abbreviation for Victory Capital's portfolio fund called Victory Shares U.S.E.Q.
Income enhanced volatility.
You can check out Victory Fund's website and see that it's a collection of holdings, including some shares in Coca-Cola, Verizon, General Mills, etc.
that people can invest in.
I don't know why the abbreviation is CDC, but I also couldn't explain a ton of other stock ticker abbreviations.
I can say, though, that the Centers for Disease Control is not a company that's traded on the stock market.
Furthermore, the CDC Foundation is a not-for-profit...
Furthermore...
jordan holmes
I'm gonna go out on a limb here.
And I'm going to say if you're part of the federal government, maybe you don't need to get 501c3 status.
That's just what I'm going to go out there and say.
dan friesen
I think that you certainly don't have an IPO.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's happening.
We've decided to...
Privatize the seat.
Jesus.
We will privatize the CDC, probably.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Who fucking knows?
dan friesen
I can just imagine the CDC on an investor call.
They're like, guys, COVID stuff's bad.
No, we'll get the numbers back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've cured exactly 15 people today, so it's been a good day.
30,000 have died, but we can't cure everybody.
dan friesen
So Alex Dutch is back on this story out of Germany, and here's what he's got going on with this.
alex jones
German police raid Antifa Squathouse in Berlin.
It's a dramatic video.
See the dramatic video of German police raiding Antifa Squathouse in Berlin.
This is exclusive InfoWars video.
Eight minutes of it.
And I'm watching this.
This is powerful.
dan friesen
All that's bullshit, but the video that he has on his website that is, like, actually of the police, that's from Reuters' Twitter account.
That's not an Infowars exclusive.
jordan holmes
There's no way that that's an Infowars exclusive.
dan friesen
No, the only Infowars exclusive is Dan Lyman interviewing a hard-right politician from Germany outside of the House after everything had gone down in the evictions.
So that's exclusive.
That eight-minute video interview is...
Yeah, yeah.
about Plan B, the murdering everybody that the globalist is going to do.
Seems like Alex keeps forgetting that too.
jordan holmes
I do like how the mainstream media is filled with lies, but also when they get good content, it's an Infowars exclusive.
I do appreciate that grift.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, look, Reuters sucks and it's run by globalists.
Evil.
unidentified
But I am exclusively...
jordan holmes
I need that footage.
I need that footage.
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
So this caller, this next caller, I don't even care about what they were saying, but something interesting happens during this call that Alex should not be engaging in.
unidentified
I've heard a lot of callers comment in about, well, we should do this with the court system.
And if you look at blogs that still kind of report the truth and have a collective knowledge, kind of like what your site does, like Jim Fetzer's blog and so forth, at least some of the contributors there.
Sure.
dan friesen
Ooh.
When your website is compared as being similar to Jim Fetzer's website, you shouldn't agree with that.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Especially when you're engaged in a lawsuit involving Sandy Hook where Jim Fetzer lost a lawsuit about it.
You should do everything in your power to be like, I'm not like that guy.
unidentified
I don't know him.
dan friesen
I have no involvement with him.
I accidentally had him on the show a bunch and then re-reported a bunch of things he was saying.
But it was an accident.
I got misled.
jordan holmes
Hey.
When friends are down, that's when you need them the most, Dan.
That's what's going on.
I guess.
You gotta step up for your friends.
dan friesen
I think Alex isn't even listening.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
I didn't even hear Jim Fetzer's name.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure he's just saying absolutely to any, like, just the cadence of the end of a sentence.
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
He's like, yep, you got it.
dan friesen
Sure thing.
jordan holmes
Agree with you.
dan friesen
I gotta eat a sandwich.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
So, this episode was from the 12th, and that was the day of the first hearing for Amy Coney Barrett's Supreme Court nomination.
And Alex plays her opening statement.
And I gotta say, like, I mean, obviously I'm against her nomination, but like...
She gave a very charming opening statement.
There were obvious attempts at jokes that weren't horrible.
They were personable.
They were charming.
Stuff like, she was talking about how I'm used to being in a group of nine because my family, we have seven kids.
And one of my kids, when we adopted them, doctors thought they wouldn't be able to talk.
Everything is great now, and I assure you, they can talk.
That kind of thing.
That's cute.
jordan holmes
That's cute.
dan friesen
Family stuff and whatever.
jordan holmes
Save it for group.
Get out of the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
I only know this because Alex played that on the show.
And I thought this was really funny because I found that to be incredibly unoffensive and only made Amy Coney Barrett look decent.
And I am against her being on the Supreme Court.
But I recognize it humanizes her a little bit.
Here's Alex's response after he came back from break after playing her opening statement.
alex jones
Amy Coney Barrett speaking.
I don't want to be mean, but it's like paint drying.
Let's go ahead and take a call!
jordan holmes
Yes!
That's a good thing!
If you were talking about an actual hearing, it should be boring.
dan friesen
She isn't saying insanely authoritarian meaning things.
unidentified
She doesn't talk crazy like Trump and say, I'm kind of bored.
alex jones
Let's go to a call!
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a real...
Everybody thought that the debate was really embarrassing because Trump was a lunatic and all of that stuff.
I find these Supreme Court hearings, I've watched some of them, to be the most embarrassing...
Game of pretend.
These are all adults.
These are all adults, and they're all doing all of this shit that they know means nothing, knowing that there is meaningful stuff they could do, and instead they're participating in this nonsense.
Like, this is childish.
dan friesen
It is kind of strange.
But, I mean, I think that, and not to say that it's okay or it should be this way, but I don't think that that's all that different than a lot of the other confirmation here.
Totally.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Like, I think that there's a lot of dodging questions.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
The amount of stuff that she's just like, I'm not going to answer, and everybody's like, well, I guess that means you get to be on the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
I think there's a lot of, like, what appears to be going through the motions.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that does suck.
And it is frustrating.
I would say that, like...
It's not embarrassing as much as it is kind of scary.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That debate was embarrassing.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And also upsetting.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The Supreme Court, at least, like, because she obviously isn't.
Just yelling complete nonsense.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
And that makes it scarier.
In the same way that, like, Bill Barr is scary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Bill Barr is terrifying.
dan friesen
Bill Barr is scary.
Trump is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's fair.
dan friesen
Barrett is scary.
Because, like I said, I just listened to the bit that was on Alex's show, and she came off pretty decent because of the, like, oh, that's not a forced joke.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That's just you know how to make yourself sound like a pretty decent family person.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex can't handle the idea that, like, the person who would support all of the policies that he wants is trying to get through the confirmation.
She can't act crazy there!
jordan holmes
Are you telling me that I have to watch her go through a confirmation without her foaming at the mouth the entire time?
I want her to defend drinking beer while she's sexually assaulting someone in the room!
dan friesen
What does she have to say about Squee?
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We're all pretend children.
dan friesen
Alex takes another call, and this caller, I think he's pretty right on, although I think that what he's saying is very upsetting.
unidentified
And you got my wife actually changed her mind.
She's been listening to you.
And she's petrified, to be honest with you, what's going on in all these other nations.
And she's worried it's coming here, and she's asking me, where are the troops from China?
And I tell her, and can't she?
She said, let's go to Canada.
I said, no, you don't want to go to Canada.
And let's get out of here.
And I'm like, this is our battle.
This is what we've got to fight.
alex jones
This is the last stand.
And she has to know it's not going to be overt at first.
dan friesen
I don't think the last battle part is necessarily right on, but like...
My wife has started listening to you and she's terrified.
I think that's right off.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I think you nailed it.
dan friesen
I think that's the experience of most people starting to like Alex.
unidentified
Yeah, I think Alex...
dan friesen
Oh, he scared me and now I need his help figuring out how to not be scared anymore.
jordan holmes
And I'm going to have to take that iodine because I too want a giant dick.
dan friesen
It's kind of sad.
It really makes me bummed.
jordan holmes
I do like...
Alex should hear that and be like, yeah, man, she's got the general vibe, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
All right!
jordan holmes
Yeah, good.
I'm still doing a good job.
unidentified
It's working.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly, right?
dan friesen
So I told you there's a congressional candidate.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that is our old pal, Laura Loomer.
alex jones
Wow, Laura Loomer is here from her campaign headquarters in Palm Beach, Florida.
She had bad Skype problems last week, but she's back with us now.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
I wanted to cover the waterfront with her about her campaign, about what she's seeing on the ground.
Polls showed her way ahead of the other Republicans.
She went even bigger than what they said.
Now she's ahead in many polls against the Democrats she's running against.
They are in full panic mode.
dan friesen
Big Skype problems.
What a shock.
What a shock.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go out on a limb and say, if you have any problem that can be described as a big Skype problem, you shouldn't be in Congress.
You should be at least able to figure out Skype if you want to be in Congress.
dan friesen
I think Alex is really just blaming her for his own issues.
So I'm just going to read you this headline from floridapolitics.com.
This is from October 5th.
Quote, Lois Frankel nearly doubling Laura Loomer's support in new CD21 survey.
If you read through the article, you'll find that the newest poll of the district that Loomer is running in has Frankel ahead 61 to 33. Loomer did surprisingly well in the primary, though, but there's a lot of factors to consider in that.
The first is that her general election opponent, Frankel, ran unopposed last cycle.
The second is that the district has a, quote, 17.5-point registration advantage for Democrats over Republicans, which is to say that of the people who have a party affiliation, it's a deeply democratic district.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The third factor is that there were six people running in the GOP primary, which spread out the vote pretty seriously.
Laura Loomer was somebody who had some name recognition and ability to fundraise with her publicity stunts, which set her ahead of the other five candidates, none of whom really had much of a chance of winning the general election, no matter how much of the how resoundingly they might have won the primary.
This is a standard InfoWars-adjacent Senate run.
This was never about winning.
It was about appearing like winning was even possible and then grifting along the way while pushing hateful and bigoted rhetoric further into the mainstream.
I will say that Laura better figure out what her grift that she wants to run after she loses the race will be now.
Because if she doesn't, she's going to end up like Deanna Lorraine, hosting an evening show on InfoWars in a couple months.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
It's still insane to me.
dan friesen
Remember back when Deanna Lorraine was on talking about how Nancy Pelosi was crying because of her skywriting?
jordan holmes
Right, right.
That's right.
dan friesen
She didn't even win the GOP primary.
jordan holmes
No, she didn't do well.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
She didn't do well.
dan friesen
Working at InfoWars.
jordan holmes
I just think it's amazing that...
When she won the primary, there should have been two journalists who were like, okay, countdown to when we catch her committing fraud.
Because I would bet $50 right now that if you looked into her finances, she has committed fraud already.
dan friesen
I bet you wouldn't even have to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you'd just call her.
dan friesen
No, you don't even need that as a story.
There's so many ways for her to lose.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I don't mean that as a story.
I mean as a, like, hey guys, let's...
Let's do something about campaign finance fraud for once, please.
Just one time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, I just remembered another one.
Omar Navarro.
That guy who was going to unseat Maxine Waters that Alex kept having on.
Oh, that didn't work.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
He didn't get a job at InfoWars, though.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
Huh.
Who's gone on to bigger and better things in the bad InfoWars primary candidate run?
dan friesen
Alex was doing way better off back in 2009 when he was having state representatives and state senate members on.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because there's thousands of them across the country.
You could probably find some of them that would come on InfoWars instead of these fringe-ass candidates who are not even going to...
I don't even care about that 61 to 33 poll that Loomer is down in.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Because she's just going to end up saying that it's fake.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Of course.
My internal polling says I'm up.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I don't even care about any of that stuff.
A normal, like, middle-of-the-road Republican probably couldn't win that district right now.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Based on the Democrat swing, like, 17.5 point...
jordan holmes
It's ridiculous.
dan friesen
...registration advantage.
Yeah.
unidentified
Like...
dan friesen
You have to win a landslide if you want to win that as a Republican right now.
I just don't care about her internal polling.
She's not going to win.
I'll stand by that, even after she does win.
jordan holmes
Even after somehow there are no places to...
Cast a Democratic ballot.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Won't that be weird that she won with 97% of the vote?
dan friesen
That will be strange.
jordan holmes
Because it's impossible to cast a Democratic ballot now?
dan friesen
So, you got this poll that's saying 61 to 33, Loomer's down.
Loomer says that her internal polling has her up.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But Alex knows where the real numbers come from.
alex jones
Two to one, they're searching how to vote Republican than how to vote Democrat in Google searches.
these are the type of real numbers that show real engagement that show if you don't win, it's election fraud.
You are in a county famous for that.
How are you planning to mitigate that problem?
unidentified
By committing voter fraud.
dan friesen
Alex has already set up the precondition that if she loses, it's probably a stolen election.
And also, that is such a weird idea.
That people are Googling how to vote Republican twice as much as Democrat.
And that's some kind of an indication of...
So what that is, that really threw me for a loop.
So I had to try and figure out what was going on.
This was a headline in Glenn Beck's website, The Blaze, that apparently more people are Googling how to vote Republican than how to vote Democrat.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I would say, I don't know what that means.
jordan holmes
I would say that one possible interpretation may be that you have not done a good job of educating your voters on how to vote.
dan friesen
What does it mean?
jordan holmes
That could be me.
dan friesen
What is someone trying to figure out if they Google the words how to vote Republican?
Do you know you just vote for the Republican candidate, right?
jordan holmes
I guess maybe what they're thinking is how to register as a Republican?
unidentified
Nope, nope.
dan friesen
Separate search.
They include that in the Blaze article.
jordan holmes
I understand that it may be a separate search.
However, I would also argue that many of the words that people are searching for are not the questions that they're looking to actually answer.
dan friesen
I understand that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that's what I'm wrestling with, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You might be trying to register.
That's possible.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Whatever it is, I don't think people searching how to vote Republican or how to vote Democrat is any indication of, like...
Final vote tallies.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's more confusion.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's certainly confusing and it's not proof that Laura Loomer is going to win or it's voter fraud.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would guarantee that.
dan friesen
Now, Alex likes to portray himself as like an independent truth teller.
He's the news.
The fake news, on the other hand, they're all liars.
And they have liberal bias because they're all liberals.
And they're all globalists and what have you.
And this is like InfoWars is just a straight down the middle news show.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
I gave $2,000-something in the primary, and I'm legally allowed to do that again now, right?
unidentified
Yeah, you gave $2,800 in the primary, so you could give another $2,800 for the general.
alex jones
Get the accountant over here from Alex Jones, my private account.
It's in my office.
I'm going to give $2,800 now.
To Laura Loomer today, because regardless, she's already educated a lot of people.
She's done a great job.
She's got a real shot at winning.
People want to win.
This is how we do it.
Where do people donate again?
dan friesen
Straight down the middle news.
I'm going to donate to Laura Loomer's campaign on air.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
I would like a receipt on that.
I would like to know exactly how much.
Did you donate the full $2,800?
dan friesen
You probably did.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
There's an impotence to this, but this is advocacy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
This isn't anything other than the worst version of what he accuses all the other news media of being.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine...
dan friesen
Wolf Blitzer.
jordan holmes
Just coming out being like, I'm going to donate $2,800 to you, Bernie.
dan friesen
Writing a check to Hillary on air.
jordan holmes
Somebody get the producer of this show to bring my personal account out here so I can say, as an independent, neutral journalist, I'm giving $2,800 to Bernie Sanders.
dan friesen
So ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Like, Laura Loomer, you know, she wants to inject the real issues.
Into the mainstream, right?
There's no one talking about the stuff that actually matters.
And thankfully, Alex is a brave enough guy to have her on, and she's brave enough to talk about what matters.
laura loomer
The number one issue that we need to get a hold of right now in our country is this issue with law and order.
And right now, the radical left, with the help of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, of course, and I have to reiterate this on your program, Alex, because nobody else will talk about it.
The website Antifa.com goes directly to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's presidential campaign website.
OK, they have had ample time to get this removed if they really wanted to.
unidentified
But they don't want to because their entire campaign is a dog whistle to the radical left.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything.
jordan holmes
I'm wondering why it does that.
dan friesen
Because anybody could have set that up as a redirect.
Fucking Laura Loomer could have done that herself.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Not saying that she did, but anybody could have done that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Any proof that Joe Biden bought Antifa.com?
jordan holmes
Explain to me why Antifa.
dan friesen
Do you think that Antifa, a non-existent organization, bought Antifa.com and then redirected it to Joe Biden's website?
Silly.
Why won't I not talk about this?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
They did.
They did.
Last month.
And everyone was like, oh, that's a stupid story.
We're not going to waste our time on that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be smart.
That would be a smart thing to do.
dan friesen
Thanks for really focusing on Law& Order.
This is what matters.
Joe Biden's website.
There's a redirect from Antifa.com.
Thank God Laura is...
Keeping us focused.
jordan holmes
Let me ask you this question.
How would it make sense for Antifa, a radical leftist organization, hell-bent on destroying the world, to mess things up by making their website about electoral politics?
dan friesen
Seems strange.
jordan holmes
That does seem strange, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it seems like Alex's whole game is supposed to be that the reason that Joe Biden doesn't say...
Tear down Christianity and white people need to go to camps is because he's trying to keep it hush.
And the same reason why people who are left-wing...
The protesters and such, they're not excited about Joe Biden, but they secretly are.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
They just have to keep that under wraps.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Joe Biden and all these left-wing protesters, they're working together.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But the essential shell game that needs to be played is that they pretend that they're not.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So then Antifa fucks it up by redirecting antifa.com to Joe Biden's website.
jordan holmes
See, now I feel like we're dealing with an enemy that is very, very stupid.
dan friesen
We're used to that with Alex.
jordan holmes
Only able to think as well as...
One, Alex Jones, in terms of planning.
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
jordan holmes
Joe Biden, even if Joe Biden is running Antifa, he's not going to be like, well, we've got to buy Antifa.com.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
Here's the thing.
unidentified
Laura...
dan friesen
And Alex and all of the people in this world are not very good at this.
They're not very...
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe they are smart in their ways, but they're not very good researchers, and they're not very good detectives.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So whenever they solve a mystery, like Antifa.com redirects to Joe Biden's website, they...
Conclude that Joe Biden is running Antifa or Antifa is supporting Joe Biden or whatever.
And then that becomes what the mystery was.
They found the solution.
They found the answer.
And that means the mystery must be what...
Uh, caters to that solution.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
In reality, that wasn't the mystery.
You're just making all this shit up.
jordan holmes
Man, Nancy Drew would really crush Laura Loomer in a Republican primary.
unidentified
Probably.
jordan holmes
I think she would really be able to solve a lot more mysteries.
dan friesen
Yeah, you've decided your conclusion and now you're writing a story to fit it.
And that's just, I mean, it's very stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Speaking of stupid, uh, I respect this.
On some level.
jordan holmes
Do you?
dan friesen
But this isn't good.
I mean, I respect it in terms of it being clear.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
dan friesen
And only that.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There is no wiggle room with this.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Laura wants to make one.
She wants to go on the record.
jordan holmes
Pin her to the wall about something.
unidentified
And let me just be the first to say, I support the Proud Boys.
laura loomer
And I was told by a lot of people, oh, you shouldn't say that.
unidentified
You're a congressional candidate.
alex jones
I support them as well.
They're a good American group that's proud of America and the West and proud to be men.
And women should be proud to be women.
It's a good, wholesome group.
dan friesen
Okay.
Well, Gloria's clear on that.
It seems like it would be really easy to take something like that and make a damning.
jordan holmes
See, now here's where we get into why their plan for what Joe Biden is doing is so stupid.
Because that is their plan.
Do you understand?
Like, here's what you should be doing.
You should be creating a separation between you and the Proud Boys, disavowing any interest, even though you, of course, love them dearly.
That way you separate yourself from the more extremist wing of the party, and you get to say, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I still condemn violence and all of that shit.
That would be smart.
Saying you love the Proud Boys is the equivalent of Joe Biden buying Antifa.com.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
So your plans are dumber than the...
alex jones
Oh, God.
dan friesen
It's the equivalent of Joe Biden, like, be...
Being out on the streets with a balaclava and a Molotov cocktail.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Just cut it out.
jordan holmes
Joe Biden just joined Pussy Riot.
That's where we're at.
dan friesen
Joe Biden would be the caricature of a left-wing Antifa protester.
Yeah, it's dumb.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
So stupid.
dan friesen
In the same way that I appreciate that Laura's being clear about her...
Connection with the Proud Boys and support for them.
jordan holmes
I hate black people.
I want to be very clear about this.
dan friesen
She also is very clear about what she will do if elected.
And again, I support the clarity.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Hate everything else.
alex jones
I know Trump's against forced inoculation, but I know you'll fight that in Congress.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm not taking the vaccine.
I mean, it's absurd to me.
You gotta cover your mouth.
alex jones
We gotta get you in Congress.
Oh, I just can't wait.
Because I know you're going to call me as a witness on censorship, aren't you?
laura loomer
You are going to be my special guest, Alex, and you are going to testify.
You and Gavin McGinnis and Milo Yiannopoulos and Tommy Robinson, Faith Goldie, you know.
unidentified
Trust me.
You have my word, Alex, okay?
alex jones
Oh, I know you're going to do it.
dan friesen
That is quite a list.
jordan holmes
Don't think Alex will be played by Jimmy Stewart in this remake.
unidentified
Mr. Jones goes to Washington?
jordan holmes
I don't think it's going to happen.
unidentified
This is a bad list.
jordan holmes
Hi, my man.
I'm all for it.
Send him in there.
Break it apart.
dan friesen
I think that that list is a terrible list of bigots and weirdos and publicity stunters.
But it is very strange to me that two of them are Canadians, two of them are British citizens.
There's a heavy overlap of...
I don't think it means anything, but it's just weird to me.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does kind of suggest, though, that...
Americans are allowed to say whatever they want.
There is no censorship.
I'm choosing people not from here.
dan friesen
Well, Laura and Alex, they're the two Americans, along with the two British people and two Canadians.
jordan holmes
Oh, so it's a global movement, if you will.
dan friesen
Of all white bigots.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah, there we go.
dan friesen
That is what it feels like.
So, Alex gets to complaining here in this next clip about how, like, he sells...
Supplements, right?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But it's not like he's selling a cure or prevention for COVID.
jordan holmes
No, he's selling bigger dicks.
dan friesen
But then again, if you take the stuff that he has, you can't get viruses.
alex jones
Sure, we sell stuff that's got vitamin D3 and zinc.
Big deal.
That is not part of our business model.
Our business model is freedom and to fund that.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
But when Fauci came out and said you gotta have vitamin D3 and zinc and vitamin C, everybody freaked out.
They're like, wait, we thought you were lying.
It's essential.
And you literally cannot die if you have high levels of that from a virus.
You may have a heart attack.
You may get a cancer or something else.
But you're not dying from a damn virus if you have it.
It's why it's essential.
jordan holmes
What if the virus causes cancer?
alex jones
If you don't have D3, zinc, and C, viruses can replicate in the nuclei and kill you.
So I'm up here saying this immediately.
It's like, Jones is a kook.
The UN does not say you need vitamin D. Wow.
dan friesen
That seems like a real problem.
That clip is...
I mean, he's saying...
That he sells these vitamins and that you can't die from a virus if you have those vitamins.
That would indicate that he's selling his supplements as a prevention of death by virus.
jordan holmes
It does seem like a big fault in our legal system if you can just split infinitive and get around all of that.
Like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I didn't say it was a cure.
I just said that, sure, I sell them.
And yes, they cure it.
I didn't say that I sold...
Ah, see?
I separated it.
I put a preposition in between the two, so now it's fine.
dan friesen
Now, I do think, I mean, vitamins and minerals are important to human bodies, sure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Fine.
I think what Alex is mixing up here in a very intentional and manipulative way is the fact that vitamin deficiency can make you more susceptible to things.
That does not mean that if you have all the vitamins you need, it's impossible to get sick.
Those are different things.
jordan holmes
You don't get to say Fauci did something right.
You don't get to do that.
Fauci is trying to kill all of us.
unidentified
According to Alex.
jordan holmes
According to you.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
So he doesn't get to do anything right.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He doesn't get to say that, oh, everybody was surprised that Fauci said that.
dan friesen
Turns out, you need vitamins.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no.
You don't get that.
Fauci's trying to kill you.
dan friesen
But here's the thing.
Alex needs to say something like that because he's painted this picture of Fauci as the guy who's trying to kill everybody.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So when Fauci does say something like, vitamins are like a...
essential part of your diet.
Sure.
unidentified
They do help you stay healthier.
dan friesen
Alex has to be like, whoa, shit.
If people see that, and I don't explain it, the They'll think I'm a liar.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So he has to come up with some caveat.
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
But even then, it doesn't make sense.
If he's trying to kill everyone and then he confirms what Alex says, that suggests to me that what Alex is saying will kill everyone.
dan friesen
Seems like that thought is hard to get away from.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a little bit tough to shake.
dan friesen
So Laura has some theories about how the left want to kill all the old people.
jordan holmes
Sure.
laura loomer
And I think that the radical left wants older people to die a lot of the time because they are more conservative politically.
unidentified
So everything about this virus has been inherently political.
alex jones
Laura, stay there.
You just made me think of something big.
dan friesen
That was exciting.
Alex thought of something big.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I came back from break because I wanted to hear what this thing that was big that Alex came up with was.
I don't know if I did get that, but here's Laura explaining her thoughts a little more.
laura loomer
Politics is downstream for culture, okay?
And there has been a lot of, you know, anti-senior rhetoric that has been perforating through over the past several months since the beginning of this year.
unidentified
It started with the OK Boomer memes.
laura loomer
No, I get it.
alex jones
Clearly there's a war on the elders now.
And the left needs to know they promoted the heirs idea, kill the old.
Well, now it's coming back on them.
dan friesen
Don't bring a Bill Ayers on your show.
It's just an embarrassment for your career.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's no good.
dan friesen
But, like, okay, so the OK Boomer meme was the first salvo in the war against the elderly.
Do you not want to talk about all of the Republican elected politicians who are like, let the old people die so the economy can stay open?
jordan holmes
Well, we don't need to worry about that.
dan friesen
Do you think that's less insidious than OK Boomer?
jordan holmes
OK, Lieutenant Governor is coming out and saying that the older people should sacrifice their lives in order for the economy to keep running.
That's not wanting to kill old people, Dan.
That's inspiring old people to die for us.
dan friesen
You've had a good run, old people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay, Boomer.
That's the same.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We said, so when you have terrible, stupid takes based on nothing, and we go, okay, Boomer, because nothing you say means anything, that is exactly the same as the lieutenant governor of a state saying, Kill old people for money!
Money, money, money!
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, and as promised, this is Alex being forced to deal with the fact that Trump got a stem cell-related treatment for his COVID-19.
And like I said, I'm positive that Alex would rather not talk about this, but unfortunately, after Laura leaves, he takes some more calls.
jordan holmes
Ooh, bad idea.
alex jones
Trina, thanks for holding.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
My main thing was they're now starting to talk about Trump's cure for COVID.
WI-38 is in there, which is aborted fetal cells cloned.
Now they are complaining about it, which it's been in our Pepsi, our Doritos, our vaccines.
And now the media twists and turns their evilness and points it at Trump.
I don't know if this story is true.
I'm going to have to do more research on it.
But where was all the coverage on this back in the day?
And I am so furious about it.
There is no explanation on how furious I am about this.
Why do you cover this now?
alex jones
Well, that's a sophisticated way to put it.
And Trump's not perfect.
and deserves it, but he's just like, hey, get cures, get therapeutics, turn the economy back on, and then you're right.
Now the media's like, oh, one of the things he's promoting uses fetal cells.
Okay, you're the Democrats that love it, but now you're the one saying he's bad.
Absolutely, I think.
No!
No!
I think you just stated exactly where I'm at.
jordan holmes
No.
Our point.
We've got one point.
We've got one point.
If you guys don't like abortions and you had banned them outright, your dumb fucking president would be dead.
He probably wouldn't.
Because it probably doesn't do anything.
But that's the point.
dan friesen
Well, somewhat.
But also, we were being a little bit glib when we talked about this on the last episode, you know, about the relation to fetal cells.
There are other ways that stem cells are created.
There are cell lines and stuff.
One thing I was reading is the research that this treatment was involved in comes from a cell line from fetal cells from the 70s.
It's not like this is all running on abortions or whatever, but your point does stand.
jordan holmes
Some of the cultures and stuff that we used all Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I think that the point that is really important here is that people don't have a problem with the treatment.
Yeah.
unidentified
They have a problem with the fact that you don't have a problem.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
That's the problem.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Because if you say that now, oh, now they're all mad about it, you're just saying that nothing you believe means anything.
jordan holmes
So just say nothing you believe means anything.
dan friesen
Of course not.
Like, I don't have a problem with stem cell research.
I don't like Trump.
But if Trump is sick and he uses a treatment that relies on some stem cell research.
I don't have a problem with it.
Alex should.
That's the disconnect.
It's not fair for them to just be like, oh, now the left is mad about stem cell treatment.
No, I don't think I've seen anybody saying that.
I think they're making the point that like, hey, isn't it weird that you guys are mad about this stuff, but not now?
jordan holmes
Hey, guys, right now, on the same day that you are saying now the left is all mad about abortions or whatever, you are trying to confirm a Supreme Court justice to outlaw the very process by which many of these therapies are created.
You are...
unidentified
Ugh.
jordan holmes
Just say you're racist.
Just say that you're a bigot.
That's what it is.
Just say you're a fucking bigot.
dan friesen
Or whatever, that anger.
And I think that caller, too, really does represent a big part of what this whole thing is.
That one other caller was talking about his wife listening to Alex, and she got really scared.
That gets translated eventually into what this caller is representing, and that is fury.
You get in with fear, and then it gets changed into anger against the people Alex wants you to be angry about, even though none of this stuff makes any sense if you actually look at what's being said.
And also, I mean, this pharmaceutical company that made this treatment, the Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Like, they were awarded a $450 million contract by Trump's government back in July to research this treatment that was very clearly built on stem cell stuff.
Like, it's not like...
Trump didn't not know that...
Well, maybe he did.
But, like, he might not know everything.
jordan holmes
He doesn't know anything.
dan friesen
But trying to pretend that he has no, like, involvement in any of this.
It's like, go fuck yourself.
Get the fuck out of here.
It's so weak.
But the thing is, like, you just...
It's so weak that he should just not talk about it, but he can't, because he accidentally took this call, and the best he can come up with is this.
And it is infuriating.
It's meaningless.
unidentified
Ugh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's just so brazen.
It's so brazen.
It's just like, why bother with the lies if you're going to be that brazen about how stupid they are?
dan friesen
Tough to say.
jordan holmes
You can't not see through that, right?
How?
dan friesen
Well, I think you can't if you're looking at it critically.
But if you're looking at it emotionally and experiencing it emotionally, I think it might be tough to see through.
And I think that's how people stay in the fold.
So we've come to the end of this episode, Jordan.
And I think the things that I would like to stress are that Alex should be more careful when he takes calls.
And Laura Loomer is going to lose.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And she's going to make plenty of money along the way.
dan friesen
Yes.
I guess we'll be back.
You know, we...
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't have any other thoughts other than Laura Loomer's going to lose.
jordan holmes
I think we will be back, and I think Laura Loomer will lose.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight, and I go to bedjordan.
dan friesen
You can find us on Facebook.
jordan holmes
You can find us on Facebook.
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I'm a magician, but I'm not like one of those fun magicians.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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