Today, Dan and Jordan go on a time-traveling adventure to explore what was going on with Alex Jones on the day of a couple of Wonks' wedding day. In this installment, Alex picks a surprise fight with Ron Paul, helps Jesse Ventura promote a horribly-titled book, and engages in some familiar salesmanship.
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge. | ||
| Fight. | ||
| Need. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to KnowledgeFight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| Well, this bright spot is a little moment that was brought to you by an alley. | ||
| McBeal? | ||
| No. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Is it a dancing baby? | ||
| No. | ||
| I was walking to the store, and I noticed that there was a bit of blockage in an alley. | ||
| There were a bunch of cars backed up. | ||
| And so one of the routes that I could go to get to the store was through this alley. | ||
| And so I decided to walk through the alley and see what was going on here. | ||
| And it turned out that this lady was trying to get in on a fairly tight turn. | ||
| Because someone had parked in the alley and it made it getting into her parking space much more difficult. | ||
| Yes, indeed. | ||
| And so I noticed, like, oh, this is a problem for a bunch of people. | ||
| No one's taking care of this. | ||
| And I was like, I guided her. | ||
| You know, like, you can pull back a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I looked and I saw, like, she was clearly, like, overwhelmed. | ||
| She had a kid in the back of the car. | ||
| I was like, this is the sort of thing where, hey, it takes a couple minutes out of my day. | ||
| I can make everybody happy. | ||
| Great stuff. | ||
| Instead of these dicks who were just behind her honking. | ||
| Ah, let's not solve a problem. | ||
| To be fair, they weren't aggressively honking or anything, but it felt like the situation that no one was solving. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And it was completely easy to solve. | ||
| And I guess the bright spot is just being able to help out and then walk around. | ||
| Well, that's fantastic. | ||
| Go about my day knowing that... | ||
| Look at me with my good Samaritan ass walking around. | ||
| It's less good Samaritan and more just like... | ||
| That was a problem that got solved. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Like you slap your hands up, and we did it. | ||
| Kind of, yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah, it's a feeling of... | ||
| You built a desk. | ||
| Mild accomplishment. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Everybody is feeling better at the other end of it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I'm feeling like I helped somebody. | ||
| That lady got into her parking space and she felt helped by somebody. | ||
| Everybody gets to move on with their day. | ||
| The people who were behind that car ended up... | ||
| And it's all because this one fucking person parked in the alley. | ||
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Sure. | |
| No reason for that. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Let's all remember who the real villain is. | ||
| Everybody comes away feeling better and just like... | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Sometimes small things should be turned into the sports movie where everybody carries you on their shoulders. | ||
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Yes. | |
| I should have had a Rudy. | ||
| You should have been carried through the alleyway and taken to your... | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, glad you got there. | ||
| I got there. | ||
| That's the point I was trying to make. | ||
| That's what you were going for. | ||
| Yes, I agree. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| Mine is the successful... | ||
| As we finished... | ||
| The U.S. Open, or as you finished, the U.S. Open finished. | ||
| I didn't finish. | ||
| Your anecdote. | ||
| Oh, I see. | ||
| Almost similar simultaneously. | ||
| This was a little bit earlier. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But Dominic Thiem won the U.S. Open, defeating Sasha Zverev. | ||
| Who I am strongly against. | ||
| Okay, so you like that guy lost. | ||
| I like that he lost. | ||
| I love team. | ||
| I like a good one-handed backhand. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| It was the first time somebody under the age of 30 has won a U.S. Open in, I don't know, probably 85 years or however long Nadal's been around. | ||
| I'm worried that your bright spots are getting dangerously close to tennis updates. | ||
| I'm not going outside a lot. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I'm not going outdoors. | ||
| Still, right? | ||
| It is becoming like this is the SportsCenter tennis update. | ||
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Oh, no! | |
| Do you want to talk about plants out here? | ||
| Is this the Home and Garden Network? | ||
| Well, now that you mention it, I have some peas coming in that I'm pretty excited about. | ||
| See, there we go! | ||
| Now we're understanding our situations here. | ||
| Yes, we have interests. | ||
| There are very few other things going on. | ||
| Welcome to Plants and Tennis. | ||
| And Alex Jones. | ||
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All right. | |
| Jordan, we've got an interesting episode to go over today. | ||
| But before we get to that, we've got to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
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| So first... | ||
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| Crikey, mate, that's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Lauren, and thank you so much, Hannah. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much to the both of you. | ||
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| Or, what you could do is you could, uh... | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| The moment I get into a space where I'm trying to create something, you started scratching your beard, and I was like, alright, what you could do is you could take that and scratch your beard with, no! | ||
| That's not how that works! | ||
| Get a little beard comb. | ||
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Shit! | |
| No! | ||
| Take the beard comb to the charity! | ||
| No! | ||
| It's a beard! | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Dan! | ||
| I think you're worse at this than me. | ||
| Scratch your beard. | ||
| I really think I'm pretty bad at this. | ||
| I know. | ||
| But I think you're worse. | ||
| I'm really taking it to a new level. | ||
| What you should do... | ||
| Yes, what's that? | ||
| ...is you should take a class on how to improvise. | ||
| Okay, I'll take a class on how to improvise. | ||
| And then put on a show and give the proceeds of that show to charity in the form of the generosity that you... | ||
| That's great. | ||
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No, it wasn't. | |
| Oh boy, that's fantastic. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's more coherent than the beard scratching thing. | ||
| No, we're doing great. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| You scratched your beard and it threw me off. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, Jordan, today, you know, I think that there is probably a slight expectation that people might have that we're going to be talking about Roger Stone and, you know, how the media has decided to cover his... | ||
| Yeah, I'm confused. | ||
| We get... | ||
| He calls for a... | ||
| Violet overthrow of the country every other day! | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Are we busy? | ||
| Well, I mean, we're closer to the election, and maybe things are a little bit more explicit than they have been in the past. | ||
| But that's not what we're doing today. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Today we're doing a very special episode. | ||
| Policywonk Keith got in touch with me. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He reached out and wanted to, you know, it's been a bad year. | ||
| A lot of negative, a lot of down feelings. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, we got this coronavirus going around. | ||
| This COVID-19. | ||
| Everybody's had a tough time. | ||
| And he and his wife, Laurel, are having their anniversary. | ||
| And they wanted to go back to the day of their wedding. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| So today, we are going to be time-traveling back to... | ||
| September 13th, 2012. | ||
| To be experiencing what was going on on the Alex Jones show on the day of Keith and Laurel's wedding. | ||
| I think this is a way better one than making a time capsule for someone who's going to listen to it when they're 16. I don't know if they'll be really ready to appreciate our show at 16. But wedding anniversary? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We can do that all day, Dan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's their 8th anniversary. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And Keith informs me that they met 21 years ago at, ooh, Alex is going to hate this, Model UN Conference. | ||
| Ooh, we've got the globals of globalists here. | ||
| Model globalists. | ||
| The shadowgate of gates. | ||
| They started listening to the show together a couple years ago when Laurel was going through getting diagnosed with a pituitary tumor. | ||
| Parentheses turns out to at least be non-cancerous. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| Ooh, that would have been... | ||
| That's a relief. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I introduced her to both Alex and the podcast through the Christmas Eve episode with the drunken hatchet throwing. | ||
| Jordan turned out to be her spear. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Get in there. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| That's engaged. | ||
| That's courage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's courage. | ||
| We applaud, Laurel. | ||
| You're putting yourself in the... | ||
| Am I getting flexed on a little bit that she's yelling a few seconds before me? | ||
| Like, am I doing my bad job here? | ||
| I don't know if it's getting flexed on, but maybe your reaction time isn't what it could be. | ||
| Maybe I'm a little slow. | ||
| Maybe I'm behind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So I have a couple out of context drops to start before we get into things. | ||
| Here's just something that I thought was really funny. | ||
| His new book, I think, is one of the best I've ever read, Democrats and Republicans. | ||
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He's got a lot of fun. | |
| That's just a great sentence. | ||
| You can't get better than that sentence. | ||
| How could possibly, in any world, the best book you've ever read is Democrips and Reblublicans? | ||
| Also, it's Jesse Ventura's book, and it's Democrips and Rebloodlicans. | ||
| Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But it's a problem. | ||
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It's a bad name because you can't pronounce it. | |
| Because you can't pronounce it. | ||
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Republican. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's one of the best I've ever read. | ||
| Democrips and Rebloodlicans. | ||
| Rebloodlicans. | ||
| Rebloodlicans. | ||
| He can't pronounce it. | ||
| He says it over and over. | ||
| It's a tongue twister. | ||
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It's a tongue twister. | |
| I would have advised Jesse gets that. | ||
| That is not a good name for a book. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| And then, the second out of context drop from today's show is a teaser for what's to come. | ||
| Because we already know Jesse Ventura is going to be on this show. | ||
| And this should tell you that there are dark times ahead. | ||
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I don't want to hear about Ron Paul ever again! | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| Is this the beginning of the end for Alex and Ron Paul? | ||
| Is this where it begins? | ||
| This might have been when Ron Paul shoved ISIS up his dirty asshole. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| That could be what's going on. | ||
| Is that today, huh? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we start here where Alex begins. | ||
| Introducing the show. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, it is Thursday, the 13th day of September 2012. | ||
| Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura. | ||
| Will be joining us to give us his take on election 2012 and beyond. | ||
| I just wanted to put that in there as a time stamp, as if to be holding up today's newspaper. | ||
| Yes, yes, I see. | ||
| Alex saying that it's that date. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| So we can all be sure. | ||
| You don't get to say 2020, so we're all feeling good about that. | ||
| I'm Dan, this is 2012. | ||
| No! | ||
| 2012. | ||
| I know. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So here is Alex discussing what's going to be coming up. | ||
| We got Jesse Ventura. | ||
| We got what else? | ||
| Also going to have open phones here, ladies and gentlemen, throughout the broadcast on the state of the world. | ||
| I mean, you can call in about whatever you want, but if you don't call in about the fact that the globalists are trying to gear up World War III right now to cover the engineered financial collapse... | ||
| See, they're taking over economically, but politically they need a war, a global war, a multi-region war, as a political distraction to get people to rally behind the ongoing takeover. | ||
| So this is just after Benghazi. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so there's this idea that Alex has that they're trying to trigger wars in order to cover up for the financial collapse. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Which is interesting because that seems like, yeah, that's an Alex narrative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a classic, Alex. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| That feels right for Alex. | ||
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That's a good point. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because it doesn't make any sense. | ||
| But it fits. | ||
| It seems like the distraction is far worse than the problem that they're trying to distract from. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But it also fits with his rogues gallery of classic villains who are all the international banks. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It feels like... | ||
| And at the end of the day, you gotta buy gold. | ||
| It feels like in that world of conspiracy, this makes sense. | ||
| As opposed to now, with like, everybody's drinking blood, they're Dracula vampire demons. | ||
| Man, we've come a long way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's something that, you know, you always end up sort of recognizing. | ||
| If you look back a little bit, it's like, well, he's still a liar, this is still nonsense. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| At least, like, this lane makes sense. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You can see the sort of connective tissue between this and some valid complaint about the world. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| You know, you could point, you know, there's a lot of complaints you can make about the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Alex's particular brand of criticism is less based in reality, but there are valid complaints to be made. | ||
| And you can see how you could take real world gripes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| What we have now is not that. | ||
| It's like when you're watching a movie and you see the conspiracy theorist with his pin board and he's got all the little things and he's got string tied from picture to picture. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| But if you panned out a little bit and then at the top of that you've just got a big like... | ||
| Picture of the devil circled with, like, this is the guy! | ||
| Then you'd be like, okay, well, we're not interested in this conspiracy theorist anymore. | ||
| It's the devil. | ||
| True. | ||
| And if you have, like, a conspiracy board and it's only got a few pieces of yarn connecting things, you can kind of be like, oh, okay, I get what you're saying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If that same conspiracy theorist just gave you a ball of yarn and was like, it all makes sense. | ||
| Like, I don't know what I'm looking at. | ||
| The devil's in the middle. | ||
| What? | ||
| I don't know! | ||
| I'm gonna call it a sweaty ball of yarn. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Something on that ball of yarn. | ||
| You know it's trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex, in 2012, also very full of himself, let's say. | ||
| It is so good to be here with you today. | ||
| I am so honored to be speaking to millions of my fellow humans, not just here in the United States, Canada, Mexico, but into Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Africa, Asia, Latin America, all over the world. | ||
| From Antarctica... | ||
| To the Marshall Islands, people are listening to this worldwide transmission. | ||
| It's interesting to hear that Alex thinks he has listeners in Antarctica. | ||
| There are no native populations in Antarctica, unless you're talking about penguins. | ||
| The only humans who you could say, quote, live in Antarctica are the scientists who are there working on some of the research bases that have been set up. | ||
| There are 66 bases in all of Antarctica, and the number of people there varies a bit by season. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In the summer months, you might have up to about 4,000 people in Antarctica, whereas in the winter, that number goes down to about 1,000. | ||
| September is squarely in Antarctica's winter month, so the number of potential listeners for Alex is then at its lowest point. | ||
| There are often more tourists passing through Antarctica than there are people quote-unquote living there. | ||
| But the problem there is that tourist season doesn't really kick off until November. | ||
| And most don't even actually even advise you plan a trip until like December or January. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Trying to plan a vacation trip during the Antarctic winter seems like a very unwise decision. | ||
| But then again, info warriors aren't really known for being smart. | ||
| So maybe Alex is getting a listener who's like, I'm gonna go visit Antarctica during the ass end of their winter. | ||
| Just one of the rogue Infowar scientists out there. | ||
| Just like, alright, I'm studying climate change, but I don't believe in any of it, alright? | ||
| I don't believe in any of this stuff. | ||
| I'm gonna get these ice cores from several hundred thousand years ago that obviously didn't happen. | ||
| Earth is only ten thousand years old, of course. | ||
| Anyways, this is a long, strange trip of mine. | ||
| My point here is that I highly doubt that Alex has any listeners in that article. | ||
| Strongly doubt, yes. | ||
| Seems like the indications are... | ||
| Not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| At this point, Alex has a strong belief that the globalists can just, like, press a button and then jihad bombs happen all over the world. | ||
| That's a fun button. | ||
| Well, he believes that, and here he is literally saying that. | ||
| They can punch a button! | ||
| And Al-Qaeda and other jihadi squads that have been allowed to operate in all our countries will start bombing things. | ||
| And then that will be used to take all of our liberties. | ||
| You see, people think it's America versus Iran, or it's Europe versus Syria. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| It's global megabankers. | ||
| Financing all sides for conflict and bedlam so they can destroy once-free societies. | ||
| See, this makes sense conspiracy-wise. | ||
| Like, this is... | ||
| Okay, yes, the evil big bad guys are using... | ||
| It's Dr. Strangelove. | ||
| We're in a place that makes sense. | ||
| I mean, it's just basic, classic false flaggery. | ||
| At least, like, it's not... | ||
| It's not an overly complicated thing that involves other dimensions and demons and, like, all that shit. | ||
| So, like, okay. | ||
| I mean, I still disagree with it and I still think he's basing this on next to nothing, but at least... | ||
| Does the devil... | ||
| Apply retroactively to Alex Jones' career now. | ||
| It must! | ||
| We have to recontextualize everything that we see in the past through what it eventually becomes, because this has to be lost. | ||
| There has to have been a plan from the beginning. | ||
| That's where things get really difficult. | ||
| That's trouble. | ||
| Where's Mr. Echo? | ||
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Where does this begin and where does it end? | |
| Because, I mean, the devil didn't just come into play. | ||
| I can't possibly! | ||
| Possibly have been on the sidelines this whole time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And then in 2018, he starts problems. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So obviously all this is still supposed to be the devil. | ||
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Yes, yeah. | |
| Which makes it difficult because he doesn't say that. | ||
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Right. | |
| He's just talking about this in terms of political intrigue. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And the great game of nations and stuff. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And it's like, okay. | ||
| I mean, our ideas are stupid and we can talk about stuff in more detail. | ||
| When we need to, but like, at least... | ||
| It's great! | ||
| It's real life shit! | ||
| At least it's human. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's not demonic. | ||
| Yeah, we're not talking about... | ||
| Look, the Lusitania sank, but it's, you know, the fucking demons didn't come out from beneath the water to open the Bombay doors. | ||
| He'll say that the globalists hate humans. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And they want to depopulate and stuff like that. | ||
| But it's not, like, specifically at the behest of Beelzebub. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like, all right. | ||
| So the globalists have this terrorist button that they can press, and then it causes trouble. | ||
| And then they gain power. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And it's simple, man. | ||
| Even a kid could understand this. | ||
| And again, before I get into this news, it's something a child can understand. | ||
| Whenever Revenge of the Sith came out 10 years ago or whatever it is. | ||
| Not really even Star Wars. | ||
| Yeah, I guess it was about 7, 8 years ago. | ||
| Guys, look up when Revenge of the Sith came out for me. | ||
| Episode 3 of the cheesy Star Wars prequels. | ||
| Not really a fan of those films. | ||
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God, I hate you. | |
| The fact that they have important archetypes in them, but... | ||
| How amazing is that that you condescendingly were making fun of Alex saying that he's not really into... | ||
| And then he follows through with it. | ||
| What a dick! | ||
| He's very predictable. | ||
| What a dick! | ||
| Even throughout the past, yeah. | ||
| Just say you like Star Wars, man. | ||
| You might as well. | ||
| I like Star Wars. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have a senator on a little-known planet who finances a group to attack his planet over... | ||
| Over trade deals came out in 2005, so seven years ago. | ||
| And then he uses that to become prominent in the Senate. | ||
| Then he finances groups, terrorists, to attack the home world, or is it Coruscant, as a pretext to then say that there isn't enough of an army, there isn't enough of a police state to stop the terrorist attacks. | ||
| And so then he abolishes the old republic. | ||
| Basically using that. | ||
| And then hunts down the old police force and wipes them out. | ||
| Now, when the movie came out, the media all over the place said, we don't understand the plot. | ||
| We don't know what this means. | ||
| I don't think they did. | ||
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I think they said this plot is stupid. | |
| It wasn't that we were confused. | ||
| No, I don't remember people being confused. | ||
| I remember people being like, ugh. | ||
| I remember people being bored. | ||
| Oh, very boring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're very boring. | ||
| There was the whole drama about Jar Jar Binks. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Of course, that was certainly a difficult period. | ||
| Let's not forget the Trade Federation's wonderful accent work. | ||
| Nobody was offended by that utter... | ||
| There were troubles that were not related to, what does this mean? | ||
| Well, I don't understand. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| An evil man would false flag something? | ||
| We're just media people. | ||
| We can't understand! | ||
| Yeah, I think... | ||
| On the basis of, like, okay, getting the broad strokes of the plot, I think everyone could handle it. | ||
| You know, the bad guy. | ||
| He's doing evil shit. | ||
| He's also a magical Sith Lord. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's interesting, too, that Alex brings up these, you know, this whole, you know, the prequels and stuff. | ||
| First of all, I fucking love the prequels. | ||
| He's not a fan of Star Wars. | ||
| But then I noticed something else, and that was, like, when he comes in from commercial break, he plays this. | ||
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You are either with the Republic or against it. | |
| One of the big points about the turn of Darth Vader is him thinking in absolutes. | ||
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Obi-Wan tells him only a Sith thinks in absolutes. | |
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So Alex has to have seen that movie and seen that point. | ||
| And he still thinks there's like, and even one of Alex's like real world bad guys, George Bush, George W. Bush, you with us or you're with the terrorists. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Like, these thinking and absolute ideas are traditionally viewed through the prism of, like, that being limited. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And that being a bad way to approach. | |
| Right, of course. | ||
| No, but he likes the bad guys. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| He does like the bad guys. | ||
| He's a bigger fan of the bad guys than he is the good guys. | ||
| He kinda does. | ||
| So, Alex believes that this whole thing in Star Wars is an allegory for 9-11. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And he believes that George Lucas did interviews where he was basically a 9-11 truther. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And George Lucas did interviews from the Cannes Film Festival and others. | ||
| He said, what do you mean you can't get it? | ||
| Criminal elements in the government are staging terror attacks. | ||
| As a pretext to take over society, just like we're seeing today. | ||
| So he basically is a 9-11 truther, George Lucas. | ||
| Love him or hate him, that's what he said. | ||
| He said, just like we're seeing today. | ||
| He said at the Cannes Film Festival, go look it up, it was all over the news. | ||
| And the news still played dumb and said, we don't know what this means, but children knew. | ||
| We don't get it. | ||
| So here's a clip of that George Lucas interview that Alex is talking about. | ||
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American politics has always been behind these films. | |
| People have read in, from the very beginning, they read in the relationship between the U.S. and the Soviet Union, Watergate. | ||
| Now, in this episode, without quite being Michael Moore, it is very political. | ||
| There are references to have we become what we feared. | ||
| There are references to the State of the Republic. | ||
| How intentional was that for you? | ||
| Well, the story, the political backstory was written 30 years ago. | ||
| It was written during the Vietnam War and in the Richard Nixon era. | ||
| I didn't want to do a movie about how people take over democracy. | ||
| I wanted to figure out how democracies give themselves over to tyrants. | ||
| And, you know, like after the Roman Senate killed Caesar, why did they turn the whole thing over to his nephew? | ||
| You know, here's an interesting thing about democracy is if you don't treat it well, if you don't do your job, especially if you're a representative in the Senate or the parliament or whatever, you know, the whole thing can go awry because if you're always bickering and not agreeing on things and doing the people's work. | ||
| who elected you, a tyrant will come in and take over and do it for you because the people want to get the job done. | ||
| And they will tend to go where the person has got the most leadership in. | ||
| Seems like a warning about Trump. | ||
| Yeah, that's not wrong. | ||
| That's not wrong. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if, you know, George Lucas was going around Cannes Film Festival yelling, There a false flag at everybody! | ||
| Don't you get it? | ||
| My film shows this! | ||
| I'm pretty sure that that level-headed response to a question was actually him secretly screaming on the inside, Bush did 9-11. | ||
| Alex can see through the bullshit, man. | ||
| I think all of those words that he said... | ||
| If you take the first letter of each of them, it spells out GW Bush did 9-11. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that's how that works. | ||
| He's very clever, that George Lucas. | ||
| So Alex has, you know, obviously there's some feelings about Benghazi, and there's some feelings about various protests that are happening in the Middle East, in countries like Yemen and Egypt. | ||
| And it's interesting, because at this point, it's pretty... | ||
| Soon after the actual attack on Benghazi. | ||
| And so there isn't a developed narrative. | ||
| There isn't a lot of, like, Clinton lied, people died, that kind of thing. | ||
| And so at this point, all Alex has to go on, really, is discussing what is said to be the inciting event of this, which is that movie that the trailer had come out of called Innocence of Muslims. | ||
| And so Alex has some ideas about this. | ||
| He thinks it's a false flag. | ||
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Okay. | |
| It's meant to get out of hand. | ||
| Now you've got this movie. | ||
| There probably isn't even a movie. | ||
| Paul Watson's got an article on it. | ||
| It's just a trailer. | ||
| Just like, what was it, five years ago? | ||
| They had the Prophet Muhammad cartoons and all these neocon-controlled newspapers in Europe ran it to antagonize the Muslims. | ||
| And sure, it's wrong that some of the Muslims can't deal with free speech. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's not a debate I'm having. | ||
| The point is, it was meant to antagonize. | ||
| It was artificially done. | ||
| And now they're doing it again. | ||
| So, this film that Alex is referring to, like I said, it's called Innocence of Muslims. | ||
| And although Alex is wrong about just about everything else, he's absolutely right that that film was an intentional attempt to anger Muslims. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It was not the globalists who made it, though, or the CIA, or whoever he wants to... | ||
| Assigned blame to Rob Dew. | ||
| No. | ||
| The credit goes to an Egyptian Coptic Christian named Nakula Basile Nakula. | ||
| Nakula claimed that he was trying to make a film called Desert Warrior, which was presented as a sort of past dystopian action war adventure movie. | ||
| In the process of shooting this film, Nikula captured footage of actors that he then re-edited and imagined as being figures from Islamic history through voiceovers. | ||
| The people acting in the film had no idea that they would be used this way, and many were pretty offended. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| There were outbreaks of protests in countries like Yemen and Egypt, kind of understandably after the trailer for this came out, because of its quite negative. | ||
| Portrayal of Muhammad and Muslims in general. | ||
| Initially, the attack on Benghazi was associated with the release of the trailer for this film, but subsequent investigations have called that theory into question. | ||
| Nikula, the director of Innocence of Muslims, apparently had a pretty extensive criminal history. | ||
| He was arrested in 1997 with possession of materials used to cook methamphetamines and $45,000 in a paper bag. | ||
| He was charged with intent to manufacture methamphetamines. | ||
| Ah, well, you don't know what that $45,000 was for. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| He pled guilty and was sentenced to a year in jail and a bid of probation, which he would go on to violate in 2002 and get another year in prison. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Then, in 2010, he, quote, pleaded no contest to federal bank fraud charges after being indicted in a somewhat intricate scheme involving fake bank accounts created using stolen Social Security numbers. | ||
| That one netted him 21 months in jail and fines amounting to about $790,000. | ||
| Damn! | ||
| That's a lot of paper bags. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Anyway, when he got out of prison, he started working on the next scam, which was to defraud actors into being in a film called Desert Warrior, which he then re-edited to be a movie that's specifically designed to anger Muslims. | ||
| Unfortunately, he tried to direct the film using an alias, Sam Basile. | ||
| Given that his most recent felony conviction had to do with using aliases to commit bank fraud, one of the conditions of supervised release for him was that he couldn't use aliases, which he definitely did in the making of this movie. | ||
| You have one job! | ||
| You've got one rule. | ||
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You've just got to put your name on the film, and you just can't do it. | |
| Can't do it. | ||
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Can't do it. | |
| So, in late September 2012, Nikula was arrested again on eight charges of probation violations. | ||
| He reached a plea agreement where four of these violations were dropped, and then he went back to prison. | ||
| had to do with the content of the film that he made. | ||
| It was just the fraud that he used in order to make it. | ||
| Anyway, this movie was not the work of the globalists. | ||
| It was an extreme anti-Islam educator with a rich history of felonies and frauds who did it. | ||
| And Alex is pretending that it was a false flag by the globalists in order to anger Muslims into causing violence in foreign countries in order to justify crackdowns or whatever. | ||
| No, it was just a dude who hates Muslims. | ||
| He does not hate and especially doesn't seem to think That Islam is a uniform thing in 2012. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| He talks about Shia-Sunni distinctions. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| I remember he did used to know about those differences. | ||
| And he does have been on this episode, too. | ||
| Fascinating. | ||
| He talks about, like, oh, you're saying Al-Qaeda's working with Iran. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, that kind of thing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| He has at least some awareness of stuff that he doesn't in the present. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Conveniently. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, this movie was made to antagonize, and that's correct, but Alex is wrong, again, about everything else. | ||
| Is Mohammed movie a contrived fraud? | ||
| I've looked at it, yes. | ||
| I mean, the way they promote it going, rich Jews gave us $5 million to make this. | ||
| The way the press release is written, the way no one knows who's behind it, it's meant to antagonize the Muslims. | ||
| So, the claims that the film was financed by wealthy Jews came directly from Sam Basile, which, again, Okay, so this guy is a real shitster. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| Okay, gotcha. | ||
| In trying to hype up the film, Nikula had claimed that he wasn't Israeli, and that he'd received $5 million from, quote, wealthy Jewish friends in order to make the film. | ||
| But of course, that was all bullshit, and it's more lies coming from a guy whose chief occupation seems to be lying. | ||
| Subsequent investigations uncovered that the film cost between $50,000 and $60,000, and that he'd received the money to make it from his wife's family. | ||
| I wonder how they feel about the whole situation. | ||
| Probably not great now. | ||
| Alex is taking at face value the claims of a con man, which he's then using to establish his own conspiracy theory about the film that the con man... | ||
| I was trying to make. | ||
| That's the fucking story of 2020 right there. | ||
| Man. | ||
| That's how we live now. | ||
| It's a nesting doll of bullshit. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He takes the lives of a con man who happens to be the president and packages them into his own bullshit to resell and then that sells back to the president and it creates a nice little fun feedback loop where we all die at the end. | ||
| It's very annoying. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| So Alex believes that the CIA made this and he's like, man, it's just a shame that these Muslims are taking the bait. | ||
| It's meant to antagonize, you know, kind of their wild redneck version of Muslims. | ||
| To go out and say, you're not going to insult my god. | ||
| I mean, it is pure manipulation, and the Muslims are taking the bait 110%. | ||
| Why doesn't Alex ever have this perspective when it comes to, like, the Satan temple trying to put up a monument somewhere? | ||
| Oh, because that's the devil. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You gotta fight the devil head on, Dan. | ||
| You can't give the devil an inch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He thinks that the Muslims are getting tricked because something sacrilegious to them is being... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, they're falling for it. | ||
| They're taking the bait. | ||
| They're falling for that. | ||
| Agent provocateurs. | ||
| The Satanist temple, when they are actually... | ||
| That's because that's Satan, Dan. | ||
| When the Satanist temple is actually fucking with... | ||
| No, that's Satan! | ||
| He's tricking you by thinking that you'll be tricked into thinking that he's fucking with you when this is actually a serious plan, Dan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think that the goal of all this sort of thing is generally to make it look like... | ||
| Any complaint that's being levied by groups that Alex doesn't like is invalid. | ||
| They're all being tricked into doing it by this evil group that Alex fights against. | ||
| Yeah, he's removing agency from his enemies. | ||
| They're, again, not people in just a different way. | ||
| Yeah, and that's also a way for him to recontextualize what he experiences as hate, but he doesn't want other people to. | ||
| So again, just to make it totally clear, he thinks that this is the CIA. | ||
| I mean, this is... | ||
| They're calling this, this was made with $5 million by rich Jews. | ||
| I mean, you could just see MI6, CIA, Mossad. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure they were all involved in the production. | ||
| It may even be an outside Merck group. | ||
| Just laughing. | ||
| Here, how do we stir these people up? | ||
| Say we got $5 million from rich Jews. | ||
| Meanwhile, they shot this on a blue screen, you know, on the back acres at Langley, Virginia. | ||
| I mean, this is such a low-budget piece of junk. | ||
| $5 million my foot. | ||
| I mean, sure. | ||
| I mean, five million is a very exaggerated budget for this film to have had, but just baseless. | ||
| Baseless, wild accusations and claims that the CIA did this in Langley. | ||
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Nonsense. | |
| All right, Deputy Director, do we have anybody here who can make a really, really terrible film? | ||
| That will piss off Muslims. | ||
| No, we gotta call Blackwater then. | ||
| We need to hire an outside Merc group in order to make our propaganda films. | ||
| Nonsense. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| So the problem is, you know, Americans are so dumb now. | ||
| They're dumb because we've been dumbed down because of TV. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| TV's confusing people. | ||
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Wow, that's fair. | |
| This is where, Alex, really, this falls apart pretty quick. | ||
| I've seen jaywalking episodes where people can't even find the U.S. on a world map. | ||
| It doesn't have the name on it. | ||
| I mean, it is a joke. | ||
| It is a joke what this country's turned into. | ||
| And it's television. | ||
| You turn on television, all of it is a destructive message. | ||
| The new normal. | ||
| And people are like, oh, don't you be anti-alternative lifestyle? | ||
| That isn't even on my radar screen. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| My kids can't watch television because you want to confuse them. | ||
| Every time I turn the television on at night to see what's on, it's anti-male, anti-family, pro-abortion, anti-gun, pro-big government. | ||
| They're to screw people up. | ||
| Trying to make sure that people get confused. | ||
| Trying to make sure. | ||
| And what did the government documents, Club of Rome and others said? | ||
| They said they would promote homosexuality and all this. | ||
| And in the family. | ||
| So no one had families to stand together. | ||
| It seems like you're trying to make this a really broad... | ||
| The media is tricking everybody and stuff. | ||
| But your focused complaint seems to be on you don't want your kids seeing... | ||
| People who are LGBTQ and seeing them as normal people. | ||
| You don't want to see depictions of them as anything other than like... | ||
| Every time I turn on the TV, I see non-straight white males. | ||
| And I don't understand why this is happening. | ||
| I watch football, but only from before 1964. | ||
| That's how I do it. | ||
| That's the only way. | ||
| It seems like this is a real interesting... | ||
| I'm being facetious, it's not interesting at all. | ||
| Ambitious. | ||
| No, it's not really ambitious. | ||
| No, definitely not. | ||
| It's an attempt to masquerade what is just like your discomfort with depictions of people who you are uncomfortable with. | ||
| You're like, oh no, it's a bigger issue than that. | ||
| Yeah, it is annoying to hear arguments from fucking the late 1960s about how television's going to ruin us all repackaged just so you don't want to see a gay person. | ||
| You don't want to watch the new normal. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So anyway, but Alex doesn't hate people for being gay or anything. | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| I don't sit there and hate you because of what you do sexually. | ||
| I am angry at the globalist for going in and trying to program you and putting chemicals in your food that in thousands of studies cause every mammal species to become bisexual. | ||
| Look, I don't hate you for being gay. | ||
| I am mad at the globalist for making you gay. | ||
| I don't hate you for being gay. | ||
| I just can't acknowledge that there's any possibility you're a legitimate person and not the creation of my ultimate enemy. | ||
| What do you not understand? | ||
| It's not about you. | ||
| Which is an attack on my very masculinity and the structure of the family. | ||
| Yeah, I don't get it. | ||
| Look, I don't hate you for being gay. | ||
| I just refuse to believe that anyone is actually gay if they would just eat real food and not watch TV. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Duh! | ||
| It's not that I hate you, it's that I don't think you're a person. | ||
| I just think you're entirely invalid. | ||
| I have the ability to make choices about my own life, and you don't, and that's why I hate the globalists, and also you should be wiped off the face of the earth. | ||
| But that's their fault. | ||
| We gotta restart, and you gotta go. | ||
| And we just got... | ||
| It's because of them! | ||
| It's a really strange... | ||
| I mean, that clip is only like 20 seconds long, but it's like, I don't hate you for what you do sexually, but... | ||
| You're not a human being. | ||
| No, your choices are basically just a automaton. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're a gay bot. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| You've had a computer chip put into the base of your neck, and now you're gay. | ||
| Why don't you understand that this is not your fault? | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| Very weird, Alex. | ||
| Interesting line. | ||
| So, Alex teases some news that's going to be coming up. | ||
| He's got some special reports, and I gotta say this. | ||
| This is really fascinating to me. | ||
| We're not gonna listen to any of you because it's boring as shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The field pieces that he has, he plays two of them. | ||
| They are so much more like local news than the stuff now is just like, yeah, Caitlyn Bennett or before she was gone, Millie Weaver going out and antagonizing people. | ||
| And then like, oh, they threw something at me. | ||
| Why are all liberals stupid? | ||
| Why are you throwing things at me? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's like that. | ||
| And, you know, I think part of that, I don't know if it happened after Owen Schroer came around, but Owen Schroer, before he got hired, was making videos of himself going to protests and yelling at people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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There was a lot of people who were like, this is more entertaining than, let's say, Jakari Jackson going out and actually getting... | |
| Sound of interviews on the street. | ||
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That would be terrible. | |
| It was shocking to me, the field pieces actually having interviews with people on the street. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And sound clips. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, it was weird. | ||
| They're boring. | ||
| That's fascinating. | ||
| But one of them has to do with our buddy, Dr. Ron Paul. | ||
| Now, coming up later in the broadcast, we have a special report. | ||
| Is Ron Paul going to run for governor of Texas? | ||
| Our very own reporter, David Ortiz, is going to be investigating that. | ||
| It's not Big Papi. | ||
| It's different David Ortiz. | ||
| I knew it wasn't him. | ||
| I knew it wasn't him. | ||
| Turns out Ron Paul is not going to run for governor. | ||
| He was still hitting 30-plus home runs a year in 2012. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we have another report that Alex probably wants to pretend didn't happen. | ||
| And Dan Badandi goes out and talks to Americans on the streets of Austin about their knowledge of the Constitution. | ||
| All of that will air here on the broadcast today. | ||
| I didn't hear that one, but I imagine it's not nearly as professional. | ||
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The Kraken's asking people about the Constitution. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What do you know about the Constitution? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What do you know about the Constitution? | ||
| I'm going to powerbomb you. | ||
| I plead the fifth. | ||
| This is a question for you. | ||
| I'm not going to answer that question. | ||
| So Alex said at the beginning of this that he was going to take calls, man, open phones. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And he did tease around a couple times that he wants calls about his World War scenario that he's playing out. | ||
| But he also said at the beginning, you can call in about whatever you want. | ||
| Yeah, but he made it a little veiled. | ||
| I would prefer. | ||
| Veiled, threatening kind of. | ||
| But he did definitely say you can call in about whatever you want. | ||
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Whatever you want. | |
| Open phones. | ||
| Open phones. | ||
| So here's the first call. | ||
| Tim in Maine. | ||
| You're on the air, Tim. | ||
| Welcome. | ||
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How you doing, Alex? | |
| First, I'd like to say I'm a big fan. | ||
| I really enjoy your show. | ||
| And I have a suggestion, an idea that Ron Paul shouldn't run for governor. | ||
| We should do a write-in campaign. | ||
| You, your listeners, everybody we can get in touch with. | ||
| Just write Ron Paul's name in. | ||
| If nothing else, if we can't get him as president, it'll show him that we're not stupid. | ||
| We don't want your choices anymore. | ||
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We want our choices. | |
| Listen, did you hear me ask callers what their take is on the attempt to start World War III? | ||
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I did not. | |
| I appreciate your call. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| Again, we don't screen your calls, but sometimes I say, hey, we're opening the phones up. | ||
| I said it like five times. | ||
| What's your take on the situation in the Middle East? | ||
| Alex does not seem to want to talk about Ron Paul. | ||
| It doesn't seem like it. | ||
| That's weird for me because I've listened to his episodes. | ||
| After 2012, and he's loved Ron Paul. | ||
| I've listened to episodes in 2008 and 2012 during the primaries and the election season. | ||
| He's gung-ho on Ron Paul. | ||
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Loves him. | |
| I know that before he loved Trump, he was pushing for Rand Paul in the 2016 election. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| It seems very strange to me. | ||
| He's close with the whole Paul family. | ||
| It's very weird to me that he doesn't want to talk about Ron Paul. | ||
| And thankfully... | ||
| He doesn't let that be a mystery. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| Alex spends a lot of time complaining about Ron Paul on this episode. | ||
| I'm going to go back to your calls. | ||
| I'm not mad at the caller. | ||
| Since you bring it up, let's just digress now. | ||
| Hell, we know nobody's going to call in about World War III anyways. | ||
| Nobody cares about that. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| I initially, whenever Ron Paul endorsed Romney, enthusiastically got really upset. | ||
| And it was because I'd watched Jesse Benton behind the scenes. | ||
| Not go after Romney. | ||
| And that's now been admitted by Doug Weed, top of the campaign, that that was Jesse Benton's decision. | ||
| Jesse Benton can hardly talk, folks. | ||
| I'm not trying to be mean. | ||
| It's just that he's not that smart. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| So you've got this Jesse Benton guy who worked on Ron Paul's campaign, who Alex seems to be very mad at. | ||
| Hates him. | ||
| Hates him. | ||
| And Alex, it's his standard thing. | ||
| This person can't even talk. | ||
| Can't even barely talk. | ||
| That's everybody he hates. | ||
| That's what he says about them. | ||
| That's what he said about Hillary. | ||
| That's what he says about Biden. | ||
| Sure, but his job, the only way he can measure success, I imagine, is by his own ability. | ||
| So he can talk for three hours unabated. | ||
| I imagine that would be your measuring stick, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He can only talk an hour on my show. | ||
| You're 33% as good as me. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| That is super weird. | ||
| It seems like a guy who's got one pitch. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| One pitch, and he can't talk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He can't talk. | ||
| He's dumb. | ||
| Make fun of your appearance. | ||
| Make fun of your face. | ||
| Make fun of your talking. | ||
| You can't just like... | ||
| He has bad ideas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Jesse Benton was working on the Pauls campaigns, and he's run afoul of Alex somehow. | ||
| And this means Alex is done with the fucking Pauls, man. | ||
| Really, I've just got to be honest about this. | ||
| I'm done talking about Ron Paul. | ||
| I'm done talking about any of it. | ||
| I still think they're good guys overall. | ||
| I think, you know, Rand's doing some good work in the Senate overall. | ||
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But... | |
| If people call in about Ron Paul, you're not going to get the responses you've got from me in the past, okay? | ||
| You don't want to go there with me, okay? | ||
| Because I know too much. | ||
| He knows too much. | ||
| About what? | ||
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Stuff. | |
| This time. | ||
| Stuff. | ||
| This time. | ||
| Well, yeah, but you've always known too much. | ||
| What is it? | ||
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Yep. | |
| This is that thing. | ||
| It's like, yeah, they're good. | ||
| They're fine people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's not the same. | ||
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No. | |
| It'll never be the same as it once was. | ||
| And it is the same. | ||
| Later. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| This is very weird. | ||
| He's just mad at this Jesse Benton guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why is the walls involved with this? | ||
| I mean, I guess they hired him, but he's mad at everybody that anybody he likes hires because none of the people that he likes actually do the stuff that he thinks that they're going to do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he blames everybody that works for them without ever realizing that those are one and the same. | ||
| And it's a pattern that happens all the time. | ||
| And one thing that's actually kind of interesting about this 2012 version of Alex is that he does wrestle with, like, I'm mad at this Jesse Benton. | ||
| I think he's a piece of shit, but I can't morally just blame him. | ||
| That's on Ron Paul, too. | ||
| Like, he's going along with Benton. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I'm deeply suspicious. | ||
| Something's up. | ||
| Especially considering we know, because it's 2020 as we're recording this, that Alex does not continue to hate. | ||
| He can't even control that kind of feeling. | ||
| That ability to be introspective about whether or not you can support someone who hires people that you don't like? | ||
| Jesse Benton, though, is a villain. | ||
| See, I already said mean things about Jesse Benton. | ||
| He doesn't matter. | ||
| I said two weeks ago, you watch, he's going to go work for the mainline Republican Party. | ||
| Because I knew that from inside. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And now it's all over the news today that he's going to work for Mitch McConnell. | ||
| So, Jesse Benton did go on to work for Mitch McConnell, and that... | ||
| Well, I mean, fuck Jesse Benton, for sure. | ||
| But then, you know, kind of, there was a problem when he got convicted of, quote, arranging for money to be funneled through a vendor to an influential Iowa state senator who dropped his support for another Republican candidate in favor of Ron Paul. | ||
| There was a whole thing where Michelle Bachman had support from this state senator in Iowa, and there was some monies that might have gone to him, and... | ||
| It looked like he got paid to support Ron Paul. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not something I'm going to go down for. | ||
| I'm not going to go down for trying to get Ron Paul anywhere. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Jesse Benton did. | ||
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What? | |
| Why would you do that? | ||
| So, while serving as McConnell's campaign manager, Ben had a bit of chaos, unrelated to felonies, though. | ||
| There was a recording of him that got released where he was discussing how he had to, quote, hold his nose for two years while working for McConnell in order to help Rand Paul's chances in 2016. | ||
| This tape was dubbed Nosegate, or Nosewater, and it became part of a campaign to attack McConnell as not a true conservative in the 2014 GOP primary. | ||
| That was clearly an effective strategy, and we haven't heard anything about Mitch McConnell since. | ||
| Yeah, especially not from his conservative bona fides. | ||
| No. | ||
| The involvement of Jesse Benton in McConnell's campaign apparatus is seen by many as a crucial element in creating a bit of an alliance between Mitch McConnell's mainstream GOP and the nutty grassroots Tea Party followers of the Paul family. | ||
| Without whatever machinations probably took place behind the scenes, there's a decent chance that McConnell would not be in office right now, because he would have lost the support. | ||
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Do you know what it is? | |
| It's a lot like, to me, when a cop is caught planting evidence, and then every case that the cop worked on then has to be re-examined through the justice system. | ||
| If your campaign manager... | ||
| I don't think he actually went to jail. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| I get your point. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You can't just, like, wave your hands away and be like, hey, you know, you got away with that one. | ||
| No! | ||
| If he committed a crime for a state senator for Ron Paul's failed campaign. | ||
| For the primaries. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| To get support away from Michelle Bachman. | ||
| This guy is not going to cheat for the big times? | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Well, also, I should tell you this. | ||
| I don't know if this makes you feel any differently, but Jesse Benton is technically Ron Paul's grandson. | ||
| Okay, sure. | ||
| Since he's married to Ron Paul's granddaughter. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| So he's a family. | ||
| Sure, fine. | ||
| And just because this shit is always fun, in March 2016, it was announced that the Great America PAC, a major Trump super PAC, had hired Jesse Benton as their chief strategist. | ||
| In an article about the hire, Doug Weed, who Alex already referenced earlier as a bigwig in the Paul campaign, said, quote, I think Jesse is one of the best political minds in the country. | ||
| He understands the cross-section of the insurgent outsider in the political establishment. | ||
| Then, in October 2016, Jesse Benton was caught in a sting operation, agreeing to launder $2 million in donations from a fake Chinese national donor through his consulting company, ultimately with the money going to support Trump. | ||
| It is too easy to trap these people. | ||
| Do you know what it is? | ||
| This is evidence that the whole fucking apparatus is geared towards protecting conservatives with a lot of money. | ||
| Because it feels like, so far, based on every investigation that we've seen that has actually taken down a right-wing operative, they have been filled with comical errors where the guys just have to be like, okay, well, we're gonna press record. | ||
| And then they're like, we love... | ||
| We're committing crimes. | ||
| I'm going to commit this crime. | ||
| We'll take that two million? | ||
| Yeah, give me illegal money. | ||
| Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. | ||
| It's too easy. | ||
| Just put your record button on your phone every time you go see one of these guys. | ||
| You'll hear them commit a crime. | ||
| Does seem like this dude has done a bit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So Alex hates Jesse Benton because Jesse's actually involved in shit. | ||
| Benton's an asshole and a criminal, but he's actually in the mix in a way that Alex can only pretend to be. | ||
| Jesse was in the Paul campaigns, he worked to merge the mainline GOP and the Tea Party, and he was willing to commit crimes to support Trump and Ron Paul's campaigns. | ||
| Very, very, very well. | ||
| Alex hates him because he's the real deal. | ||
| Very willing to commit crimes. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Oh, boy. | ||
| But he did one thing that Alex cannot forgive. | ||
| You know, we've seen the video of it, Paul Fest, that was snubbed by the Pauls and everybody. | ||
| We've seen the footage where Peter Schiff shows people the text from Jesse Benton saying, don't go to Paul Fest, it's extremist. | ||
| And that's what I can't handle. | ||
| It's one thing if the Pauls kind of get married off of the Republican establishment and try to influence it towards libertarianism and freedom in some way. | ||
| I get all that to a certain extent. | ||
| You can debate it either way. | ||
| But the Jesse Benton talking and acting like Southern Poverty Law Center or ADL... | ||
| And the things I've known have gone on behind the scenes the last few years and all the things that happened. | ||
| It's just very sad to see, after all this great work Ron Paul's done and that we've done supporting him, patriots out there, to just kind of see Campaign for Liberty and the whole political list of donors. | ||
| Because I now get solicitations from neocons. | ||
| The list is out there. | ||
| This is what it's actually about. | ||
| But it's interesting, because I don't know if this Jesse Benton told Ron Paul that Paul Fest is full of extremists or whatever. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But if I were in Benton's position, and I viewed myself as a competent strategist, I would say, do not go there. | ||
| Hey, buddy, that place is filled with extremists. | ||
| I wouldn't say extremists necessarily, but I'd be like, hey, that looks bad. | ||
| Don't go to that. | ||
| I watched a video of a rapper at Paulfest rapping in a giant room that is maybe one-eighth full. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's wearing an American flag t-shirt, and it's embarrassing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't think it would serve Ron Paul's interests, even if he's not running for president anymore. | ||
| I still think it would look bad. | ||
| I would advise him against going to that as well. | ||
| Yeah, I would advise everybody against going against that. | ||
| Unless you're going on some kind of Hunter S. Thompson-esque, like you're doing a bunch of drugs. | ||
| Sure, that's a great idea. | ||
| And reporting on the soul of Paul Fest. | ||
| You might lose this one, though. | ||
| You might not wake up after this one. | ||
| So Alex, it comes down to, he believes that Jesse Benton is being brought into the McConnell campaign because he has... | ||
| The donor list. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| From the Paul campaign. | ||
| And that very well may be the case. | ||
| Alex got a text for money and he didn't like it. | ||
| Probably. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And, I mean, there is some reality to stuff like this. | ||
| I don't know how much it permeates the world of higher politics in this way. | ||
| But I do know that from, like, working as a producer of shows here in Chicago, that people who produce shows would cultivate email lists. | ||
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Totally. | |
| That they would be able to use to promote their shows and things like that. | ||
| And those were highly valued commodities. | ||
| People would talk about other producers who had giant lists that they put together. | ||
| And it is something that has capital. | ||
| Oh no, the Sanders mailing list after he dropped out in 2016 was incredibly valuable to Hillary and them. | ||
| Now, the extent to which one person has control over it, I don't know. | ||
| But the idea that McConnell would bring in Jesse Benton, saying it's just for this list, seems reductive. | ||
| But what Alex is trying to actually say, which is, he wants you. | ||
| McConnell wants your support, and Benton's selling you to McConnell or whatever. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| There's kind of a spiritual truth to that a little bit. | ||
| And I think Alex resents that. | ||
| I think he takes it very personally because he owns Ron Paul, goddammit. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Ron Paul has said that his money bombs... | ||
| Most of the support is from Infowars people. | ||
| Alex made Ron Paul. | ||
| Wayne Paul was in a documentary that Alex put out. | ||
| So I think that he's taking this really, really personally. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| Mitch McConnell hires Ron Paul aide to run his campaign. | ||
| We're committed to running a presidential-level campaign in Kentucky, and that starts with a presidential campaign manager. | ||
| McConnell said in a statement, Jesse is literally the best in the business at building an organization of conservative grassroots movement. | ||
| No, he's not. | ||
| He's the best at going on my show and other libertarian and constitutional shows and getting our money and our support. | ||
| And now he's taking that list over to the Republican Party and Mitch McConnell. | ||
| That's what went on. | ||
| Now, I'm done talking about this, and I'm not going to talk about Ron Paul anymore. | ||
| When people call him with stars in their eyes, I'm about to throw up on the radio, okay? | ||
| So just please don't do it. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| In fact, I know a lot more, folks, and I'm not going there. | ||
| Ron Paul shoves ISIS up your dirty asshole. | ||
| Tell me what you know. | ||
| Ron Paul shoves Mitch McConnell up your dirty asshole. | ||
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Right? | |
| What are you doing? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| If he was drunk, that's how this would sound, probably. | ||
| Yeah, it is nice to see he's still professional back then, to the point where he's mad, but he's not throwing a drunk tantrum. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This can come off as, like, I mean... | ||
| If you look at it and you think about it a little bit, it is a little bit petty. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But at the same time, the pettiness has underpinnings of some ideological... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| ...something to it, some betrayal. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I agree with him. | ||
| There's a part of me that's like, you understand how these people work, right? | ||
| You know, like, this guy's job is to sell your information to many different people, any of whom might buy it or not. | ||
| He doesn't care. | ||
| It's his job. | ||
| He's gonna go run a campaign for Mitch McConnell, or he's gonna run a campaign for Ron Paul. | ||
| He doesn't give a shit. | ||
| And we know from Nosegate that... | ||
| This dude, Jesse Benton, even when he was working for McConnell, was privately indicating that he thought it was the best thing to do to help Rand Paul in 2016. | ||
| He's Rand Paul's grandson! | ||
| Exactly! | ||
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Yeah! | |
| This guy's still on the team, man! | ||
| Yeah, there's an argument that could be made that Alex is taking an incredibly narrow view of this. | ||
| Which is something that people don't say about Alex. | ||
| Never. | ||
| But it's just really funny to hear him say stuff like this. | ||
| The Pauls got starstruck. | ||
| Ron Paul got old. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| They sailed off of the sunset. | ||
| And they're hooked up with the Republican Party. | ||
| And Jesse Benton's a genius. | ||
| And I'm an extremist, okay? | ||
| And you're an extremist. | ||
| And all those families at Paul Fest are scum. | ||
| I'm going to stand with those families, okay? | ||
| Okay, that's who I'm with. | ||
| I'm with the American people, not with Mitch McConnell. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| I'm not going to crawl up his rear end. | ||
| Ha! | ||
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You will. | |
| Oh, yeah! | ||
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It's going to be a long crawl, but you're going to get all the way up there. | |
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Ha! | ||
| It's interesting because what Alex is talking about is like, I'm with these Ron Paul families and all this stuff. | ||
| I'm not with the GOP. | ||
| But because of the work that people like Jesse Benton did, and the people who worked to merge the GOP and the fringe Tea Party stuff, that is the work, the hard work that enabled Alex to now pretend that he's not doing that. | ||
| His fringe weirdos have taken over the GOP. | ||
| So that's one of those ways in which I'm like, Alex hates the guy who's doing the thing that he pretends to do. | ||
| He doesn't like the long game. | ||
| No. | ||
| The long game is very hard and it involves plans and all kinds of things. | ||
| It's funny how brilliant he sees the globalists are and how their plans are infinitely long and thousands of years and obviously the devil is running them and all this stuff. | ||
| But anybody on his team who has a plan that lasts longer than scream for a bit, he's like, No! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I hate you! | ||
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Yup. | |
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, Alex, like, I mean, I think that he's making some fair critiques of the Pauls. | ||
| One of them is that they pretended to be more serious about their chances in order to make money. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| But if somebody I don't know does me wrong, it's not personal. | ||
| I don't get upset. | ||
| That's just life. | ||
| When we've worked and been passionate and defended and done so much, Or someone. | ||
| And to watch them really turn their back on the liberty movement. | ||
| But rope-a-dope. | ||
| Keep everybody going along like he was going to be president when Rand was already announcing five months ago that it was a done deal, last time he was on the show, that things had already been decided. | ||
| It was all just an exercise in capitalizing on a political list and raising money. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Buddy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Man, it's weird to realize that I was more jaded eight years ago than Alex was towards the political process. | ||
| Somehow I was like... | ||
| Oh, man, we got Obama in, and then a year later I was like, oh, shit, this whole thing is a lie. | ||
| Everyone's full of shit. | ||
| He's not gonna do fuck all. | ||
| Tim Geithner, all that shit. | ||
| And even if everything isn't a lie, there are still just sort of realities of intricacies and complicated ways in which things can be done that maybe you can't capture in a campaign. | ||
| There's disappointments that aren't necessarily deceit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is realizing that Ron Paul was fundraising. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Good work, buddy. | ||
| I really thought Andrew Yang had a chance to be the Democratic nominee. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think he really had the chance. | ||
| So he doesn't even want Ron on the show anymore. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| So the Ron Paul revolution had to get derailed to a great extent because some punk married Ron Paul's granddaughter. | ||
| I'm done. | ||
| Don't call my show folks about Ron Paul. | ||
| I don't ever want to hear about him again. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We don't ask him on the show. | ||
| We don't want him on the show. | ||
| Go hang out. | ||
| Hang out with your Republicans. | ||
| Because, Ron Paul, I know you know about all this. | ||
| I don't want... | ||
| Just, I'm done. | ||
| You don't want us. | ||
| We don't want you. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| We don't need you. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| It's so... | ||
| It's petulant. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's a whiny little baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's really annoying. | ||
| You want to play with Jesse Benton? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm done with you. | ||
| I'll never do anything for you again except for support you in your and every presidential campaign for the rest of my life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Rand Paul is going to get some buckshot here, too. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You know, Rand Paul would talk about the Bilderberg group on my show. | ||
| Now when he's asked about it, he won't talk about it because he has parties with Bilderberg members like Peter Thiel. | ||
| And okay, alright. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| That guy says he's a libertarian. | ||
| When billions of bucks comes along, people tend to want to be nice to him. | ||
| But it's just like, I don't want to go there. | ||
| I have bigger things to discuss. | ||
| Like Trump's connections with Peter Thiel. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| Don't worry about it. | ||
| I can't imagine being where Alex is right now. | ||
| And having somebody, like, play him an episode from back then. | ||
| Yeah, it's parody. | ||
| And not having, like, if it was me, I would listen to myself talk and either, like, have a complete meltdown or be like, you know what? | ||
| I liked that guy way more. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm gonna go do that guy again. | ||
| Fuck me. | ||
| I would have to be, like, I would need a redoubt. | ||
| I need an island fortress to flee to after hearing these old things of myself. | ||
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Oh my god, what have I become? | |
| So Alex gets around to having Jesse on and mic down for this because it's very, very familiar how this begins. | ||
| And then we'll also get into his take on the New World Order being announced openly. | ||
| We're going to play some clips of the news saying that and get his take on 2012 and all this hubbub. | ||
| Jesse, great to have you back with us. | ||
| We just had him. | ||
| I think we lost him. | ||
| Go ahead and get him back on. | ||
| That phone line's been dropping. | ||
| Go ahead and get him back on. | ||
| That was a... | ||
| That was a good build-up to not have the guests there. | ||
| These phone lines are weird. | ||
| Sure are. | ||
| Sure are weird. | ||
| How many years can you handle that many phone mishaps? | ||
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Eight years of just constant, like... | |
| Nonstop. | ||
| Well, no way to fix this. | ||
| Well, I guess we'll just have to cross our fingers and hope it works tomorrow. | ||
| I gotta say, I mean, this is one of the only shows where this is such a constant problem. | ||
| Nonstop. | ||
| Other broadcasts seem to have... | ||
| These kinds of things ironed out fairly well. | ||
| Particularly with, like, guests who maybe used to be the governor of a state. | ||
| You know, and it's noticeable whenever somebody with a professional show has a call drop. | ||
| Everybody, like, the whole show kind of halts. | ||
| Everybody's like, oh no, this is a nightmare. | ||
| Not like... | ||
| Well... | ||
| This is Wednesday. | ||
| This is the third time we've had this happen. | ||
| Guess the phones are weird here at MSNBC. | ||
| It doesn't anger him nearly as much at this point, though. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| It doesn't have eight years of build-up on it. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So Jesse comes on, and I've noticed this thing, and it shouldn't be too surprising since he thinks talking to Alex is a good idea, but I end up losing respect for Jesse. | ||
| Every time I hear him. | ||
| I think he's one of these guys who benefits from people having a picture of him in their head, and it's not based on reality. | ||
| If you just think that he's a guy who likes weed and doesn't like spying and thinks that both parties suck, if you just think that... | ||
| Then you could be like, yeah, fuck yeah, Ventura. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You didn't like special interests when you were the governor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you were great in Predator or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, we all love a Domian's impression of you. | ||
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Love it. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| But then when you start to get into more specifics and you're like, oh, wait, you suck. | ||
| There's where I stand with Ron Paul completely. | ||
| We need to cut off foreign aid to any foreign country and we need to do it for not only... | ||
| Those reasons, but the economic reasons. | ||
| Alex, our country's broke. | ||
| So yeah, cut off all foreign aid, like Ron Paul wants. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's a great, realistic, consequence-free kind of idea, Dick. | ||
| You know, I talk a lot of shit, Dan. | ||
| I talk a lot of shit. | ||
| I have a lot of bad ideas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't hold on to those bad ideas, you know? | ||
| Whenever this stuff happens, whenever it's like, eh, we should cut off all foreign aid, they keep saying that. | ||
| It's never pointed out to them like five minutes later. | ||
| It's like policy for them. | ||
| Yeah, like, no, if I said we should cut off all foreign aid to you, you'd be like, okay, well, here's what would happen, and I'd go, ooh, that's a bad idea. | ||
| Let's not do that. | ||
| As someone who's worked with you for a number of years, I can vouch that typically when one of your ideas is shown to be bad, you're like, well, that's a bad idea. | ||
| Then you move on. | ||
| That was a bad idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have bad ideas! | ||
| Not so much these Jesse, Ron Paul types. | ||
| It might be one of our big differences, I think, between me and most of the right women. | ||
| Jesse Ventura? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Although he would not be on the right, because he thinks that there are Democrats and Republicans. | ||
| And, look, I mean, it would be wrong to say that everything that Jesse brings up is dumb or bad, but, like, I mean, advocating cutting off all foreign aid Balance the scales on. | ||
| Like, if you believe that... | ||
| It's going to take a whole lot of good opinions. | ||
| Maybe an impossible number of good opinions. | ||
| I think we should stop world hunger, and I think we should cut off all foreign aid. | ||
| I don't think those two work well together. | ||
| But like I said, it would be dishonest if I didn't say that he actually has some good points. | ||
| One of them is that, yeah, you can complain about Obama a ton, but a lot of what you're complaining about is the remnant of things that were done during Bush. | ||
| And Alex, because he's talking to a high-status individual, agrees. | ||
| Our idiot memories of the people of this country, they can't think back that far. | ||
| You know, they got about a year that they can remember. | ||
| And they don't realize that it was Bush that did the first bailout. | ||
| It was Bush that started all the wars. | ||
| People need to understand this, and I speak from experience here. | ||
| On the economy, it's decisions made about four years ago that affect it today. | ||
| So when the economy went sour in 2008... | ||
| It was decisions made back in 2003, 4, and 5 that caused that to happen in 08. It does not happen overnight because it's so big and large that it takes about three years or four years for decisions to have their impact on the economy. | ||
| Well, I agree with you. | ||
| Do you? | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's interesting because now whenever Trump does something a week later... | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He saved the economy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, he did. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He saved it. | ||
| And all the stuff that happened during Obama's years, Trump actually did that before Obama was president. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So Alex asks Jesse, because the interview kind of becomes a little bit weird, because Jesse's being like, yeah, why would you vote for the Republican candidate? | ||
| Like, they... | ||
| Are the ones who started these wars and the first bailout that everyone's so against. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| Ruining the economy is the work of the policies that were put in place. | ||
| So everybody's complaining about the economy and they're thinking they're going to vote for Romney. | ||
| That doesn't make sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, you don't want to vote for Obama. | ||
| You should vote for a third party person. | ||
| That's a serious train of thought that someone can have. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And Alex has a difficulty with it because at the end of the day, he's like... | ||
| Maybe he hates Romney, but he's an anti-left show. | ||
| He's an anti-democrat show. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| And so, like, he can't really, you know, he wants to get on to other topics. | ||
| And he's like, yeah, what's going on? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| What do you think the big bad guys are going to do? | ||
| They've got TSA now in all 50 states on the highways, train stations and bus stations starting to pop up. | ||
| We've got the military admitting they're preparing for civil unrest. | ||
| What do you think they're gearing up for? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Obviously something very bad, and we'll transition to my TV show now, if we may, which will tie into this. | ||
| The new season starts November 7th, 10 Eastern, 9 Central on True TV. | ||
| And one of the interesting shows we show you this year is in Ozark, Missouri. | ||
| There's a complete underground city. | ||
| We discovered it. | ||
| And I've really wanted to investigate that. | ||
| I'm glad you guys did. | ||
| That was a jarring transition to promotion. | ||
| I'm glad you brought that up, Dan. | ||
| And we're going to continue talking about this on my new show on True TV, Wednesday, 9, 8 central. | ||
| What do the globalists have planned? | ||
| They have a lot of bad things they're going to do. | ||
| Well, I'd like to tell you about my new season of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, which you are on. | ||
| I do like that as a response to a really terrible, dumb question. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's an underground city in Ozark, Missouri. | ||
| There's barely an above-ground city. | ||
| So, I remember this episode. | ||
| I saw this episode of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, which is, I mean, that's a good show if you want to get high and go like, ooh, it's not a good show as a whole, though. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| If you want information, it's not great. | ||
| And I think one of the things you can tell is, like, right here, it's like, okay, go fuck yourself, Jesse. | ||
| Well, one of the interesting things, here's an interesting thing we found out in Ozark, Missouri. | ||
| Now, the only new construction there, except for this big 72,000 square foot single family dwelling on top of a hill that led us there, that's another story. | ||
| But the only new things happening in this little town in Missouri is, the only thing being built are banks. | ||
| Tons of banks. | ||
| Underground banks? | ||
| And it goes something like this. | ||
| There's one bank for every 11,000 people in New York City. | ||
| There's one bank for every 9,000 people in Los Angeles. | ||
| In Ozark, Missouri, there's now one bank for every 51 people. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| That's ludicrous. | ||
| Is it incredible? | ||
| It doesn't feel incredible to me. | ||
| The population of Ozark, Missouri is approximately 17,800. | ||
| So if there's one bank per 50 persons, that's about 350 banks in that town, which is comical. | ||
| That seems like a lot of infrastructure going to waste. | ||
| One of the things I can tell you as a former Missourian is that outsiders often use the word Ozark weirdly. | ||
| For one thing, there's that city called Ozark, but there's also a separate county called Ozark County. | ||
| On top of that, there's a big reservoir called the Lake of the Ozarks in the center of the state, which has an adjacent city called Lake Ozark. | ||
| This is because the lower half of the state of Missouri and part of Arkansas is covered by an expanse of the Ozark Mountains, which have been really instrumental in Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oftentimes, the term the Ozarks is used to describe the lower half of the state of Missouri, but that term really has no administrative or border significance. | |
| It very well might be that what's going on here is that Jesse's taken the number of banks in the Ozark region and compared it to the population of the city that's called Ozark and then decided that a small town in Missouri mysteriously has 350 banks. | ||
| That would make sense. | ||
| Or it's possible that, like, throughout the southern half of Missouri, there's one bank per 51 people because there could be a bank in a city that's got, like, no population. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Basically, like a farmer's bank or something, you know, like, that... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I grew up in a town of 7,000, and I'm trying to think that's a little under half. | ||
| Man, I don't even know if there were 350 total civic buildings, period. | ||
| Outside of homes and shit. | ||
| I'm not entirely positive that I would be comfortable saying that there's 350 banks in the bottom half of Missouri. | ||
| That seems maybe even a wonky statistic. | ||
| But, like, the idea that this town, the Ozark, Missouri, has 350 banks, ridiculous. | ||
| That's a real tulip situation. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| We only sell banks here. | ||
| So why would there be that many banks? | ||
| Why would there be that many banks? | ||
| What possible reason could there be to overwhelm a small town with bank branches? | ||
| What conspiracy is he even hinting at? | ||
| I suspect that what he's getting at is that there's this underground city, which is the people who these new banks are serving, but this doesn't make sense at all. | ||
| Why would the underground people need to go to the surface to bank? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They could do all that digitally. | ||
| So that's kind of the angle that we're here on? | ||
| I think. | ||
| That they're building all these banks, and isn't that suspicious? | ||
| Who's using those banks? | ||
| Where are all those people going? | ||
| They must be underground. | ||
| I think. | ||
| That is a trade of thought that I would not have expected. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, because it makes... | ||
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But I'm just guessing that that's the conspiracy. | |
| It's silly. | ||
| Old people, rise to the service world! | ||
| We must make a withdrawal! | ||
| It's silly. | ||
| It's legitimately dumb. | ||
| Like, okay, let's imagine that they... | ||
| Okay, so, look. | ||
| They have an ATM down there. | ||
| They could have an ATM down in the Underground City, but it would run out of bills eventually, right? | ||
| Why can't you get a Brinks truck to go to the Underground City? | ||
| Why can't you just dig a hole and drop it down? | ||
| Sure, why not? | ||
| I would like to make a withdrawal, please. | ||
| Yes, can I have an address? | ||
| Below you. | ||
| Hey, buddy, guess what? | ||
| This is a secret underground city. | ||
| They don't need money. | ||
| They could have everything digital and it'd be totally fine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's no reason to have bills down there. | ||
| There's no reason for change. | ||
| We have the capability of building a perfect underground city, self-sustaining. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But where are we going to bank? | ||
| We just didn't think of that. | ||
| We didn't plan ahead. | ||
| We're going to need 350 banks put in in Ozark, Missouri. | ||
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That's true. | |
| This is so stupid. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| And the idea that Jesse is entertaining this is some kind of... | ||
| Isn't that suspicious? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's pretty good evidence that either he's checked out on the critical thinking aspect of his TV show, or he's just leaning into things that are like... | ||
| Almost like, you know, conspiracy clickbait. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, I can see him just being like, he's a professional entertainer. | ||
| He's been an entertainer since he was young, you know? | ||
| This is just part of that selling the shit, you know? | ||
| There's one part where he's like, we have one episode where I'm doing an Alex impression. | ||
| There's one episode. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| Come on, you can do it. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He talks about how on one episode they're going to look into whether or not the government's making a humanzie. | ||
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And Alex is dead silent. | |
| Because if you believe Alex's conspiracies, of course. | ||
| They've already done that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For years they've been doing that. | ||
| It's insulting that Jesse would make an episode about that because Alex has proven it a hundred times over. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So it's weird. | ||
| Yeah, that is... | ||
| That is fun. | ||
| It's not like this is the first time he's ever transparently sold obvious garbage with his positive, I'm a salesman, you know, I'm a professional entertainer. | ||
| You mean Jesse or Alex? | ||
| Yeah, Jesse. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, like he's spent his whole career selling shit that he's been in movies before. | ||
| He's like, I think this is a really great movie. | ||
| You know, like, no. | ||
| You know, it wasn't. | ||
| Now, there is a line, though. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I think this season's going to be even more entertaining for people to watch. | ||
| Because we all... | ||
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Well, you know, I wouldn't have did it except it was on Time Magazine's Top Ten Conspiracies. | |
| I mean, people believe this. | ||
| And, you know, we're also there to show the conspiracy, but we're also there to show if the conspiracy we believe is. | ||
| You know, we play both sides. | ||
| So you don't believe the Queen is a five-and-a-half-foot reptoid? | ||
| Do I believe it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| They're making fun of David Icke. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| Who Alex now is... | ||
| Band-out video, Dan! | ||
| He's really buddying up with David Icke now. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So in 2012, Alex was still in the David Icke is a turd in the punch bowl mentality. | ||
| So they're plugging the show pretty good and hard. | ||
| That makes sense, because Jesse's on a promotional tour. | ||
| He's on Alex's show in order to promote... | ||
| And also the new season of his show. | ||
| So he's promoting these things. | ||
| And in order to help get more buzz, he has a particular strategy that he employs that everyone fell for. | ||
| I got hot news for you, and I'll tell you this for all your listeners. | ||
| I stated that if a grassroots campaign took place across America, grassroots, and didn't cost any money, if they got me ballot access in all 50 states, and if the grassroots campaign could guarantee that I would be in the debates, that I will give serious consideration 2016 of running for president. | ||
| Are you breaking that here? | ||
| Well, I've said it a couple places, but you're pretty well. | ||
| They're all the same day, so you're hearing it the same day. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Well, thank you for announcing that because our show... | ||
| That is such a transparent attempt at creating buzz for his product. | ||
| That's brutal. | ||
| Now, what's funny to me about it is, like, if you actually listen to what he said, he said nothing. | ||
| He said nothing. | ||
| He said that if he's guaranteed to be on the ballot in every state, and he's guaranteed to be in the debates with no money out of his pocket, he'll consider running for president. | ||
| If I am 75% elected already, I will consider taking the next 25% of the steps to get there. | ||
| I'll think about it. | ||
| But you guys have to already pre-elect me the president, essentially. | ||
| And that's the thing that's really funny to me, is Alex asks him to really reiterate what he's saying. | ||
| And if you pay attention to this, it's really clear that he's like... | ||
| I will show up and yell at people at the debate if everyone else does the hard work for me. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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100%. | |
| That's what he said. | ||
| If everyone else does the work, I'll do the fun part. | ||
| My show's big enough that it'll probably end up breaking nationally here that you said on this show. | ||
| So, Governor Ventura, please make your announcement. | ||
| Well, I said that it's a grassroots effort, not a money effort. | ||
| I don't want millions of dollars raised, and I don't want to do all that. | ||
| But if there's a grassroot, blue-collar effort out there, and people do the legwork to get Jesse Ventura on the 2016 ballot for president, and if they can likewise guarantee me, because I've got to be in the debates, I won't do it if I can't have an opportunity to win. | ||
| And the only way you can have an opportunity to win is you must be included in the debates. | ||
| If they can guarantee me the debates and guarantee me ballot access in all 50 states, I will give very strong consideration to running for president in 2016 as a complete independent. | ||
| What a dick. | ||
| Very strong consideration. | ||
| What a dick. | ||
| Even in your imaginary world that is not possible, you're still waffling in the middle of it? | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Look, if hundreds of thousands of policy wonks email Comedy Central's head of programming right now telling them that I deserve a half-hour comedy special, I will strongly consider recording a half-hour comedy special. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| The thing that's comparable between those two is they're taking out the difficult part. | ||
| Like, the hard part. | ||
| If hundreds of thousands of people will work at my stand-up comedy career for ten years, building a fan base of their own. | ||
| The hard part about a grassroots movement is organization, mobilization. | ||
| That's why you pay people to do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Ideally, you would want a candidate who's engaged with that part of the process. | ||
| And Jesse says, no. | ||
| But, I mean, it's so transparent to me, looking back at this, as, like, when Alex is like, oh my god, are you breaking that here? | ||
| And he's like, I've said it in a bunch of places, but all today. | ||
| Because he's going on a bunch of interviews. | ||
| He's doing a bunch of press. | ||
| He's doing a junket. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And part of his press strategy is indicating that if people want him to be president and guarantee him all this, he'll consider it because that'll make a headline and it did. | ||
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Yep. | |
| What a dick. | ||
| It's not hard. | ||
| It's just not hard. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It should be harder to manipulate media. | ||
| Did you know that there are a thousand banks in Ozark? | ||
| I've heard that there are one bank for every 6,000 mole people. | ||
| True. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has another guest on this episode. | ||
| And this was like, this is going to make people think that I'm a witch again. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He came to visit me in town a couple days ago to just talk about the state of the world and what they were going through. | ||
| And I said, you've got to come on air and talk about this. | ||
| And Steve Shank said, all right, I've been your sponsor for about eight years. | ||
| Because I shopped around to find the best storable foods and found out he was the trailblazer, the grandfather of it all, 30-plus years. | ||
| The biggest company, the best company, all of that. | ||
| You've got all these fly-by-night people now coming in to storable foods because people realize, hey, you need to be independent. | ||
| Two things about this. | ||
| Actually, three things about this. | ||
| One, Alex knew that Steve Shank was going to be on to plug his foods at the end of the episode, which puts into context his desire for calls to come in about World War III and the financial collapse that's coming. | ||
| He wanted to create that tone for the episode in order to pay it off towards the end with this. | ||
| Steve, we've just heard from all of our callers that World War III is coming and that the financial collapse is coming. | ||
| Steve, do you have anything that people might want? | ||
| Financial Labs is coming? | ||
| Second thing, he's talking about this fly-by-night. | ||
| People are coming into the space. | ||
| They're not around anymore. | ||
| They're eFoods Direct and Steve Schenk. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| As best I can tell, I can't find any evidence. | ||
| And I've found a bunch of people who are saying that they are not in business anymore. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And third... | ||
| They're not Alex's sponsor anymore. | ||
| Alex now has My Patriot Supply. | ||
| He has a completely different food sponsor. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| It's interesting to see this very similar behavior being engaged in in order to push survival food. | ||
| In the past. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost like the callers were the three-man game. | ||
| You know, it used to be him, Ted Anderson, and what's his dumb fuck? | ||
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Bob Chapman. | |
| Bob Chapman, you know? | ||
| He's trying to put the callers in the Bob Chapman role of look at what horrible things might come. | ||
| Yeah, let's dwell in that space a bunch and then discuss. | ||
| This. | ||
| And honestly, looking into it, trying to figure out what was going on, seeing if I could figure out why Alex doesn't have eFoodsDirect as the MyPatriot supply. | ||
| Is it the same company that's rebranded? | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, whatever. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Trying to look into that, I got really fucking depressed. | ||
| And I think that there's an aspect of survival food sales that we don't take into consideration that much. | ||
| And how ripe for abuse it is. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because the premise is you're buying food that you won't eat for five years. | ||
| If you're somebody who's running a con and don't expect to be in business in five years, you could sell whatever the fuck you want, because most of those people are not going to eat that food. | ||
| It could be bad, and then it might not have the shelf life that you're claiming that it has. | ||
| And by the time that anyone learns... | ||
| That you're out of business. | ||
| You've disappeared. | ||
| There's nothing they can do. | ||
| I found so many complaints on websites from people who had bought food from eFoodsDirect. | ||
| And, you know, it's got a 25-year shelf life. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And, like, let's say a hurricane hit or something. | ||
| Or even more tragically, now, in 2020, with the situation that people are finding themselves in. | ||
| They're like, oh, we have survival foods. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank God we do. | ||
| They open it up. | ||
| And it's rancid. | ||
| It's completely spoiled. | ||
| The food is no good. | ||
| One person I found a complaint from was saying that there's an intrinsic problem that their foods don't have bug-proof bags. | ||
| So they just... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| All of the food just had bugs infested. | ||
| Larva and shit everywhere. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I don't know if that's universal. | ||
| And, you know, I generally try to err on the side of not taking angry... | ||
| Online comments too seriously sure because they're easy to for people to Create you know like campaigns against a company or whatever yeah, but it was a over a long stretch of time these these complaints and they were also a lot of them Yeah, it made me think that maybe there was something to some of the complaints they were making and it really really depressed me because of that angle on it the fact that like you are | ||
| You're basically selling people comfort that they may not have in the future. | ||
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And these people, like, it's not cheap. | |
| Like, it's a lot of money that people were paying, like, thousands of dollars for, you know, a family of five, a year's worth of food. | ||
| And then maybe it's shit. | ||
| Maybe it's useless. | ||
| And now you're out that money, and you've been deprived of that comfort that was what you were being sold in the first place. | ||
| And it really made me more angry, because on some level, I totally understand the idea of preparation. | ||
| I mean, we've talked about this before, like, when I was younger, we lived in Missouri, and there's tornadoes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So my parents had some canned food and bottled water in the basement in case. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| It's something that... | ||
| If things go as bad as they possibly could, it's not irrational to have something. | ||
| When a company exists that's promising you the relief of those potential fears and anxieties, when that's what they exist to do and they take advantage of it, it's really bad. | ||
| It's really evil to me, I think. | ||
| I mean, I would say just on that merit, yes, it's disgusting. | ||
| When you add the fact that they are then stoking and exacerbating the fear in order to push product. | ||
| In order to sell more of their shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then now you're not just saying, oh, they're exploiting somebody's reasonable fears. | ||
| What they're doing is they're ratcheting up reasonable fears into something insane in order to sell more of their food because... | ||
| That's how capitalism works. | ||
| It's a profit-based business. | ||
| And from what I understand, I think eFoods Direct was also a multi-level marketing. | ||
| They had an angle of it that was that. | ||
| You'd sell food to people around you. | ||
| So it's even more exploitative. | ||
| And just all of the indications that I can get are like, this is a really, really gross thing that Alex was engaged in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, you know what's funny? | ||
| Food business is predatory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You didn't laugh. | ||
| No, because I'm too depressed. | ||
| I know, that's very sad. | ||
| And that's the other thing, too, is that Alex is talking about this in terms of, like, there's a bunch of people who are getting into the emergency food game because people want to be independent. | ||
| But that's an illusion. | ||
| That's an illusion. | ||
| You're creating a dependency on your company for this survival food. | ||
| And if you can't promise, or if you can't deliver what you're promising... | ||
| It's so depressing. | ||
| It's just a bleak picture of Alex selling x-ray goggles in the back of his magazine or whatever. | ||
| It's just such charlatanry that I find it offensive that so much of his career is clearly staked on this. | ||
| It's so clearly based on this con of these people who trust him. | ||
| It sucks. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to believe. | ||
| It really is still hard to wrap my mind around. | ||
| Just, like, how many different terms, idioms, descriptors, stories, and all of this stuff about con men are just littered throughout just American history, let alone the world history. | ||
| And yet it is still impossible to convince a significant portion of people that con men exist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, con men are so good at convincing you everybody else is trying to con you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That you wind up buying storable foods. | ||
| All these other storable food people are con men. | ||
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| Except for me. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's interesting, because this experience of, like, preparing this episode really... | ||
| Before was like what you were talking about, the exacerbating fears in order to push product. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Because I had some kind of a just maybe naive belief that what they were selling was actually good. | |
| You would think. | ||
| But then looking at these fucking complaints, it just like and it's not just complaints. | ||
| There were pictures. | ||
| Of their food that had gone bad. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| And it's like, I just... | ||
| It just adds such another layer to it that is just... | ||
| I feel so bad. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Not least of which because just as if you want to... | ||
| Like, let's call it market capitalism and the market will do the stuff. | ||
| What incentive do you have to sell good, storable food? | ||
| Like, what incentive is there? | ||
| I mean, in theory, you'll get sued in 25 years. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Most businesses aren't in business 25 years. | ||
| And if you're a storable food business, your bottom line is there won't even be a business in 25 years. | ||
| You're going to need our food. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We won't exist by the time you need to be mad at us. | ||
| Yeah, it's honestly something that I think that it might be a space that calls for regulation. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I think it may call for greater regulation than even just like... | ||
| Regular food market because of those added elements. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Because of the sort of liability that you get yourself out of based on the nature of the business. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And of course, were some politician, obviously would... | ||
| Be someone on the left to suggest these kinds of things. | ||
| Alex would be able to say that it's an attack on the idea of storable food. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When, in fact, it's just a loophole that is really fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, it is really. | ||
| I didn't really consider it fully before, but it is a business based around, by the time you use my product, I will not exist. | ||
| I will be out of town. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| In the old sort of parlance. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The salesman will have moved. | ||
| It's a monorail, yes. | ||
| It's totally a monorail. | ||
| The business won't even exist because we're all dead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Wow. | |
| It's a bummer. | ||
| That's a real bummer. | ||
| And I think the reason that we don't consider these things or hadn't thought about it in those terms before is just a... | ||
| Again, naive faith that, like, at least... | ||
| Well, they're a business. | ||
| They're a business. | ||
| There's gotta be rules. | ||
| They have to be doing something. | ||
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Right. | |
| If you sell people storable food that goes bad ten years before its expiration date, obviously you're gonna get sued. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You're out of business by then already, or there's no recourse. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| That's a great way to launder money. | ||
| Has anybody figured that out yet? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Anyway, Alex is like, look, sure. | ||
| This guy, Steve Shank, he's here, and he runs my fucking survival food business. | ||
| But we're not here to plug. | ||
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| We're here to talk about news. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He's having to buy food out a year or two ahead just so he can give you good food at the lowest price when other folks are selling you things that the cardboard has more nutrition, literally. | ||
| See, I'm already running on here. | ||
| We're not talking about eFoodsDirect.com. | ||
| He does not want to talk about that. | ||
| He came here to talk about the news. | ||
| So now that's an interesting premise. | ||
| He's here to talk about the news. | ||
| He's not here to talk about eFoodsDirect. | ||
| Now, it might be interesting to see what kind of news he wants to cover. | ||
| Here's what he brought. | ||
| Reuters. | ||
| World food prices jumped 10% in July. | ||
| World Bank. | ||
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Boom. | |
| That's hyperinflation, folks, not just the droughts. | ||
| Food stamp use climbs to record. | ||
| 46.7 mil, but you add in the rest is over 50 mil. | ||
| Bloomberg, hot long summer since food prices soaring. | ||
| So it's all about... | ||
| Stories that are designed to make people more inclined to buy your survival food. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| How is that not an infomercial? | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| He's just there to talk about the news. | ||
| Please. | ||
| He's just there to talk about the news. | ||
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Such bullshit. | |
| Come on. | ||
| He's got a lot of things to say about Ron Paul, I imagine. | ||
| This is about as unethical as it fucking gets. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the presentation of like, oh, Steve doesn't want me to plug. | ||
| I'm going to plug whether he wants me to or not is such bullshit. | ||
| It's insulting. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's really insulting. | ||
| And I'm going to plug it. | ||
| He can't. | ||
| They're laughing about that. | ||
| The concept that he's rebelliously plugging. | ||
| He's told me not to. | ||
| We're going to plug anyway because it's so good. | ||
| Fuck you guys. | ||
| That's mean to me. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I don't like it when they're mean. | ||
| You know what's even worse? | ||
| Obviously, I can't trace this, but I can just imagine that somebody who's listening to this show in 2012 bought that food. | ||
| And then they were the people complaining on the websites that I... | ||
| Six months ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They opened it up. | ||
| We got the food. | ||
| It's a good thing. | ||
| You know, that was when the markets, the shelves were all empty. | ||
| Target had no toilet paper down the way. | ||
| And they're like, fuck it. | ||
| We're going to open up this storable food and then they get maggots. | ||
| Or even if it's just a thing where, okay, things are looking like they might go bad. | ||
| Let's try this food out and see what we've got. | ||
| And then you're like, oh, we don't have anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I know that obviously I can't draw a direct line, but it's really too hard for me not to think that somebody bought food because of this disgraceful display. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe some of them were disappointed. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Such a fucking bummer. | ||
| That is a bummer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, this is where it becomes like, really, go fuck yourself with this. | ||
| This isn't an infomercial. | ||
| You can't do anything about the earthquakes and the storms and things that are happening as a result of the 2012 thing. | ||
| You can't do anything about what's going to happen. | ||
| Also, by the way, Steve Schenck might be a Mayan apocalypse guy. | ||
| We're a Mayan apocalypse guy. | ||
| That sounds Mayan apocalypse-y. | ||
| He's vaguely Mayan apocalypse-y. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't care who gets into office right now with this election. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Neither one of them can do anything about, and we as individuals, Joe Lunchbucket out there, can't do anything about what's going to happen with all of the goofiness that's going on with government and to take over the food. | ||
| And we're going to talk about Michelle Obama and her interest in tracking all the food that we've got a little bit later on. | ||
| Oh yeah, I meant to cover that yesterday. | ||
| Will you guys reprint me that? | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| So anyway, you can't do anything about that. | ||
| Now Alex, you are a... | ||
| A master at going in and finding all the goofy stuff that's going on, all the inappropriate stuff, and you expose it. | ||
| And all of us, we've got people out there that would not miss one of your programs, that actually take notes when you bring up what's going on with Obama, when you bring up what's going on with the Chinese taking over our farmland, when you bring up what's going on with ethanol and the various things that we've talked about. | ||
| But I've got a question for you. | ||
| You've got food in your garage. | ||
| Under air conditioning, what can you do about Obama and the weather? | ||
| And what can you do about all of the things that we've talked about? | ||
| You can't do a stinking thing. | ||
| And all of these people that are taking notes and are saying, my gosh, Alex really hit it today. | ||
| What have you done for them? | ||
| What can they do about it? | ||
| There's one thing they can do. | ||
| So it's like the Titanic is listing the food as the lifeboats, is what you're saying. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| That's parody levels of infomercialing. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's like, hey, Alex, you're great at getting people all juiced up, but hey, at the end of the day, there's nothing they can do, but the only thing they can do is buy my product. | ||
| In ad copy terms, that is a call to action. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, the Titanic's sinking. | ||
| My product is a lifeboat. | ||
| It's the only lifeboat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Embarrassing. | ||
| I can't imagine a better way to stop listening to InfoWars than if somebody was like, here, here's what you do. | ||
| Take notes. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| For a week. | ||
| That's kind of how this show started. | ||
| I know, right? | ||
| Isn't that kind of that, like, if you just take notes on a weekly basis, or no, for one week, take notes of what he says day to day to day, and then compare them? | ||
| From just what he says in one week, you will find at least 30 different things that he's on both sides about. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If you choose the right week, you're probably right. | ||
| But some weeks he's kind of boring. | ||
| And he doesn't stray too far off any paths. | ||
| You could definitely find weeks that are like, none of this makes sense. | ||
| But even if you just take notes over a day and track down the things that he says, and if you go into it with an open mind and actually look for Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| The only reason you would ever maintain being an InfoWars listener is passivity. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Just sort of unquestioning this. | ||
| I don't say that in any nefarious way. | ||
| It doesn't mean anything bad about a listener if they're not questioning what they're hearing. | ||
| It's more like they're captured. | ||
| Yeah, it's easy to get locked into patterns of accepting X, Y, or Z as reputable. | ||
| But yeah, if there were listeners... | ||
| I mean, there are listeners who are taking notes, obviously. | ||
| I'm sure there are. | ||
| And the only way that holds up is if you don't do anything with them. | ||
| It's just sort of a compulsive exercise. | ||
| You throw them away at the end of it like a fucking box score. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex, Steve, excuse me, mentioned in that last clip that Alex has a bunch of food under air conditioning, which Alex says he does. | ||
| And he's got more than just that. | ||
| Everything, it's all coming true. | ||
| I am so unpleased that we were proven right. | ||
| But I agree with you. | ||
| People need to have good friends and family and medical supplies and food and water filtration and firearms. | ||
| And I've gotten out of the city. | ||
| Listen, I lived in town. | ||
| I like living in town. | ||
| I like being able to drive a quarter mile to the movie theater or a quarter mile to the grocery store. | ||
| Not now. | ||
| I've got to drive 10 minutes to get anywhere. | ||
| And I went and read Strategic Relocation, and I found the one area in the hill country in Texas that's probably one of the few safe areas are safer. | ||
| I mean, I've made preparation. | ||
| I've put in the well. | ||
| I've put in the solar power. | ||
| I mean, because this is real. | ||
| And I hope people will go to the one place to get their food. | ||
| There may be other good places, but a lot of them are bad. | ||
| eFoodsDirect.com This is embarrassing. | ||
| Flash forward eight years, Alex saying, I'm finally gonna have to find a bunker. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It just does this. | ||
| You lying piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so real right now that I've had to dig out wells. | ||
| I'm getting solar power. | ||
| Eight years later, it's so real right now that I'm going to stock food up in the country. | ||
| I'm gonna put some guns out there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just a way of... | ||
| At least George Foreman actually had one of his own fucking grills. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| You know? | ||
| I'm sure he had one. | ||
| It's a way of... | ||
| Performing the severity of the situation that requires you to buy the product. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's just gross. | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| And here's where it gets even grosser for me, because this touches on a lot of my belief of things going bad. | ||
| And Alex is wearing my belief as a hat. | ||
| And I really disrespect this. | ||
| Folks, you don't just need food for yourself. | ||
| You need it for your family and your neighbors. | ||
| Flash forward to 2020. | ||
| My superpower is being honest. | ||
| I've extrapolated this out, and I won't have to for a few years because I've got food and stuff, but I'm literally looking at my neighbors now and going, I'm ready to hang them up and gut them and skin them and chop them up. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I'm ready. | ||
| My daughters aren't starving to death. | ||
| I'll eat my neighbors. | ||
| So the reason that I'm personally offended by this is that I do think that any kind of perspective that you have towards... | ||
| Things going bad, to the extent that you're able to, should take into consideration the people around you. | ||
| You should never be looking at getting a weapon to protect yourself from your neighbors. | ||
| You should think about getting a weapon possibly to help protect your neighbors from any threat that might be there. | ||
| Community-minded approaches towards anything that could go bad are so much more helpful than... | ||
| Views where it's like, I'm the only survivor. | ||
| And Alex knows that. | ||
| In 2012, he's sitting here saying, you need food for your neighbors. | ||
| And yeah, if things go bad, if you have a bucket of food, it's great, because then you can help your neighbors survive. | ||
| That is something that's really awesome, if you're able to afford that and are in such a position where you can do that. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| And Alex knows that, but he doesn't mean it. | ||
| He doesn't mean it. | ||
| He wants to eat his neighbors. | ||
| Furthermore, just historically, cooperation has not been like... | ||
| One of the strategies to survive, it has been the only successful strategy. | ||
| That's why we're still here. | ||
| Yeah, it's the best adaptive strategy. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| And finding people around you to create a cooperative community with will make you far more successful than if you are sitting alone with a fucking gun, basically holding your family hostage. | ||
| Eating rancid mashed potatoes. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| Like, what are you guys doing? | ||
| I need this gun to protect this bad food that I overpaid for. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah, it... | ||
| It's a real bummer because it's a presentation of something good being used in service of everything bad. | ||
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Totally. | |
| I really fucking hate that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a real shitty... | ||
| I mean, it's kind of like when you are influenced too much by media and culture and books and all that stuff, then your steady drumbeat of dystopias are always... | ||
| You know, it's the person surviving the dystopia. | ||
| Dystopias are never like, okay, we're gonna build a community together, and we're gonna get all this stuff together, and we're gonna do the- Because that takes away some of the dystopian aspects of it. | ||
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Exactly! | |
| You're creating just a regular old society in a shitty place. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you look at, like, the sort of, the marquee things, you have, like, it's- I think it's because also it's an easier story to tell, like, the- Fewer characters, you don't have to pay as many actors. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Fuck all this shit. | ||
| I hate Alex. | ||
| I hate him so much. | ||
| I hate him so much! | ||
| What's so interesting is you go back to this 2012, and you're seeing this exact same behavior, but kind of even grosser because of little wrinkles to it. | ||
| It's a different food sponsor. | ||
| We know that they've probably gone out of business after getting tens of thousands of dollars of profit probably from these people. | ||
| That's gross, but it's the same behavior. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have Jesse Ventura coming in and just using Alex as a platform to promote his products and using a vanity false start run for president as a way to push that. | ||
| Real gross. | ||
| Real gross. | ||
| And you have Alex having a little petty fight with Jesse Benton and by virtue of that saying he's done and doesn't want to talk to Ron Paul ever again. | ||
| Such a weird world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Such a weird world. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| It is wild to live in the present where all kinds of weird shit happens and day-to-day nothing makes any sense, but it's all vaguely familiar. | ||
| And then go into the past and the same weird shit happens and it's vaguely... | ||
| Everything on InfoWars is uncanny. | ||
| Like, it's vaguely similar to something that you know from the real world. | ||
| And yet... | ||
| It's not. | ||
| Yeah, that's how the field pieces are. | ||
| That's like local news, but man, it's not. | ||
| It's so close, but it's not that thing. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Why are real things there and you are what you are? | ||
| The thing that's really weird to me is just how much more grounded his conspiracies are. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| And I think part of that is because he doesn't have to wrangle with the devil. | ||
| You can do political conspiracies and intrigue all day. | ||
| You could sit me down and yell at me about JFK's theories for, like, an hour, and I'd be like, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then I'd, you know, maybe look into stuff and see where roads lead, but wouldn't be like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You start yelling about the literal Satan. | ||
| Devil killed JFK. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And also, JFK Jr. is still alive. | ||
| I gotta go. | ||
| All right, buddy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, first of all, happy anniversary, Keith and Laurel. | ||
| Yes, happy anniversary to the both of you. | ||
| Many more happy rotations of Earth or the Sun or whatever. | ||
| Whichever it is we choose. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whichever you like the most. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so thank you for suggesting this. | ||
| It was an interesting glimpse. | ||
| And also thank you for letting us... | ||
| Be a proxy part of your anniversary. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And the Wonk Nation. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| And we all celebrate it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Think about that. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| You guys. | ||
| That is kind of fucked up. | ||
| Keith Laurel. | ||
| I'm talking to you right now. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You too. | ||
| This is your anniversary. | ||
| Man, what if they stopped listening to this show, like, right before we recorded? | ||
| That'd be sad. | ||
| There are thousands of people around the world who are either actively or passively right now wishing you a happy anniversary. | ||
| That's true! | ||
| How fucked up is that? | ||
| That's kind of weird. | ||
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Weird! | |
| That is weird. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Let's not focus too much on what we're capable of doing. | ||
| It kind of creeps me out, Dan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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We can get people to think happy anniversary for people. | |
| That's the extent of the way we want to abuse our powers. | ||
| I think it's a great way to abuse our powers. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Unfortunately, I did not have time to wrangle any phone calls for this episode, but we'll get some calls on the next one. | ||
| But for now, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledgefight and I go to bed Jordan. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are on iTunes and if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Daryl Rundis. | ||
| I am a Republican Ozark banker. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |