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Sept. 11, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#480: September 9-10, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on what Alex Jones is up to in the present day. In this installment, the gents see what Alex thinks about the Bob Woodward news, football video game stats, and whether or not Joe Rogan is censoring him.

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alex jones
13:53
d
dan friesen
52:02
j
jordan holmes
25:00
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steve pieczenik
04:03
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andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
steve pieczenik
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
steve pieczenik
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
unidentified
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
I tried to talk through the bullhorn.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
That bit almost fucking killed.
jordan holmes
It almost worked.
dan friesen
Damn it.
jordan holmes
You really almost had it.
dan friesen
I bungled it.
jordan holmes
You fucking bailed.
You could have survived it if you'd have just kept it going.
unidentified
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
I'll talk a little bit.
I just, uh, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's tough.
It's tougher than you think.
dan friesen
It's hard to talk through a bit.
That's why.
jordan holmes
I think the problem is it's very small.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't quite know where to put your mouth.
It's also hard to hear through the headphones.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
All right, bullhorn segment over.
This podcast where I like to sit around, drink knowledge of averages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed it is, Dan.
dan friesen
And how good he is at using a tiny bullhorn, apparently.
jordan holmes
He's better than you.
dan friesen
We have just, in real time, proven his worth.
jordan holmes
He's got a talent for bullhorn.
dan friesen
I hate that we said that.
jordan holmes
No one's ever said.
No.
dan friesen
I hate that we set out to make fun of him, and in the end, all we have done is demonstrate his value and what he brings to the marketplace.
jordan holmes
You know, it is interesting.
It's a niche.
It is a niche.
dan friesen
Quite.
jordan holmes
Not many people fill that niche of being master bullhorners, but, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Hey, everybody's gotta go.
dan friesen
Gotta give it up to Alex when he's got a skill.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Hi.
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
Real loud that time.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sorry about that.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I was trying to talk through the bullhorn.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I'm just loud.
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Well, Jordan, I mean, it's a lot of plant stuff in my life these days.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
I would say that my plant-related bright spot, plant-watching segment here, is that...
So, I've got a number of things going in various stages of pretty good progress.
Sure.
Not broccoli.
The cucumbers.
jordan holmes
Cucumbers are killing it.
dan friesen
And the pepperoncinis are, in particular, doing quite well.
But the thing that I'm really, really liking right now, that I'm feeling just so great about, is the fact that I finally got some quinoa to grow into viable little plants.
I had killed...
At least three rounds of trying to grow seedlings of quinoa.
I'm still not 100% sure what I did wrong with those other times, but this time I've got three plants that are pretty well established.
jordan holmes
It's not always about you.
Maybe the quinoa just didn't want to be here.
dan friesen
It could have been.
jordan holmes
You know, you've got to make everything about you all the time.
It doesn't have to be about you.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, sure.
Fine.
Maybe the seeds were predestined to not work out or something.
They had no interest.
It's a big relief.
I thought I was just sort of destined to keep doing it over and over again.
What am I doing wrong?
And then this round, it's just...
It's nice.
It feels like progress.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very nice.
That's very nice.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
My bright spot was I had the opportunity to tell my partner about the St. Crispin's Day speech.
She had never heard it before.
She didn't know anything about it, so I was trying to get her inspired to go to work and make it through the day.
So I start going into the St. Crispin's Day speech, and she's blown away, and I'm like, listen.
The St. Crispin's Day speech is the only speech that will make you run through a fucking brick wall even though you don't understand a word of what's being said.
It's incredible.
It is the original fucking clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose.
Of fucking drama.
And I played her the Sir Lawrence Olivier bit, and she lost her mind.
She was like, I don't even like this, but I want to run through a brick wall!
dan friesen
That's how I feel about Dusty Rhodes, hard time promo.
jordan holmes
See, now there you go!
Yeah, and that wouldn't exist if it weren't for the St. Crispin's Day speech, Dan.
dan friesen
I would say it's the other way around.
Time travel, Randy Kramer.
jordan holmes
It also gave me a chance to talk about my favorite conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
Which is?
jordan holmes
We've been asked before, like...
Are there any conspiracy theories you believe or what's your favorite conspiracy theory?
And I've always left this one out because I forget about it.
But my favorite conspiracy theory is the Shakespeare is a woman conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He absolutely is not.
It's a him.
Everybody knows it's 100% true it's him.
But that's my favorite one to entertain.
I'm like, how many people have to lie?
And was she secretly a princess and she was writing like that and they couldn't put her name out?
Amazing.
dan friesen
But what about the theory that Shakespeare was a bunch of different people?
jordan holmes
That one's also bullshit.
dan friesen
Are you sure?
jordan holmes
Yeah, Shakespeare's actually Shakespeare.
dan friesen
It wasn't Marlowe?
jordan holmes
No, it wasn't Christopher Marlowe.
It wasn't what's-his-dumb-fuck Francis Bacon.
It wasn't none of these guys.
dan friesen
Was he a spy?
jordan holmes
Shakespeare was not a spy.
dan friesen
Was he in love?
jordan holmes
He was in love.
dan friesen
That's true.
Well, that is a fine conspiracy.
jordan holmes
He had a very difficult marriage, though.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
I thought that historical Shakespeare was a much more open question, but then again, I will grant I have never looked into it.
jordan holmes
Maybe one of the most studied individuals in the history of all of literature, and you think people would just let that be an open question?
dan friesen
I thought there just wasn't a lot of primary sourcing on it.
unidentified
Oh, tons!
dan friesen
This goes to show how you can just sort of have a vague notion of something if you don't look into it.
jordan holmes
You're just like, that sounds probably true.
dan friesen
So speaking of conspiracies, we were a little bit of assholes on this one.
We forgot to mention and thank the Cult's Cryptids and Conspiracies podcast for having us on as a guest.
Last week we were on their...
They're a podcast.
jordan holmes
It was a wonderful time.
They were delightful.
dan friesen
Yeah, I want to thank Chelsea and Christina for having us on there.
It was a lot of fun to talk to them about Alex, and I, as always, feel very self-conscious that I just rambled about various Alex-related nonsenses.
jordan holmes
See, I never feel self-conscious because I am who I am, and I scream and annoy people.
That's it.
That's what I got.
dan friesen
So, if y 'all want to enjoy that, check them out.
You can find them at C3Podcast, and that takes you to the link, so you need to find them.
So, thanks again for having us on.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
We enjoyed it immensely.
dan friesen
Yeah, for sure.
And we're bad at any kind of engagement on social media or knowing when things happen.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
Nope.
Messages unanswered.
Emails unanswered.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
We never share links about our own show.
dan friesen
I'm the worst.
jordan holmes
We're bad at this.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about the period of September 9th and 10th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
Oh, God damn it.
I had sort of planned to do a little bit of a more longer scale or like the beginning of the week, but everything just kept happening and like Bob Woodward came out of the woodwork.
We both put our fingers up.
jordan holmes
Pointing at each other to see who's going to break first.
Who's going to do it?
dan friesen
Who's going to attack?
jordan holmes
Who's going to go wrong?
dan friesen
It's just too much.
We've got to look as close to present as possible.
We've got to be focused.
We're going to take a look at this.
And see how Alex is dealing with the fires on the West Coast.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We're going to learn about Trump's tapes.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Coming out.
jordan holmes
P-tape.
dan friesen
Not the P-tape.
So yeah, we'll get down to business on that.
But before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, Benjamin B. Thank you so much for now, Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Benjamin.
dan friesen
Next, Alex T. Thank you so much for now, Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Alex.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Mel M. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Mel.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Rory K. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Cheryl.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Cheryl.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, some guy.
All one word.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
What if it's some-a-gee?
dan friesen
Oh, it could be, yeah.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, some-a-gee.
dan friesen
I didn't take that into consideration.
I apologize.
Next, Atticus M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Atticus!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So, Nate K., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Nate!
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support these gents, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or...
jordan holmes
Indeed you can, or you could spend years working on a relative play.
Think about who's involved there.
Think about all the characters necessary.
Take all of that creative energy.
Turn it into generosity.
Give it to the world, or more specifically, a local bear fund or charity, Dan.
dan friesen
A bear fund?
jordan holmes
God damn it!
This is what happens when we record late.
dan friesen
We may need a bear fund.
jordan holmes
I would like a bear fund.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we're going to start things off here on the 9th.
And it's interesting.
Alex is talking about, like, red state, blue state issues.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And he reveals what he means when he says red states.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And what he means when he says blue states.
It's very interesting.
It's not Democrat and Republican, or kind of is, but also means something else entirely.
alex jones
It's being rolled out in blue cities and blue states.
And I use that term nationwide and worldwide now, because they don't call it red-blue.
Whether you're pro-human, you're red.
You're anti-human, you know, you're blue.
I guess blue blood globalist, gamelan, whatever you want to call it.
dan friesen
So Alex has taken the red and blue of the Democrat and Republican and used it to extend to...
jordan holmes
Worldwide.
dan friesen
Yes.
Pro-human is red.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
Anti-human blue blood is blue.
jordan holmes
Okay, are there regions within other...
Like, how about Chile?
Is all of Chile, like, a blue state?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Red state?
Are there smaller?
Does he think every country has states?
dan friesen
I don't think Alex could really break down state by state or nation by nation.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He could tell you that Brazil is red.
He could tell you that much.
jordan holmes
I think Brazil is purple right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's strange, because those terms already mean something.
He's just...
jordan holmes
I would like him to have that Wacko video from the Animaniacs where he's singing the country song.
I would like Alex right next to that juxtaposed with just red, blue, red, blue.
dan friesen
Everyone hates humans.
So he's talking there about rolling out of all this stuff.
Of course, it's about COVID-19 and the public health measures that are actually secretly about taking over the world.
And it turns out that, like, hey man, we responded one way, and some other countries did something different.
And this is just nonsense.
alex jones
Meanwhile, in Sweden, they did absolutely nothing, and now they're saying, actually, COVID didn't exist, and we have record low deaths from pneumonia.
It just doesn't exist, basically.
dan friesen
That smug tone right there doesn't exist, basically.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I can't even do an impression of it, but that tone there, that condescending fuck tone.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I hate that so much.
jordan holmes
Basically, it doesn't happen.
Basically, it's all bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very annoying.
dan friesen
Undeserved.
jordan holmes
Especially for somebody who is 100% wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
To be treated so condescendingly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, oh, basically there's no germ theory.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Idiot.
dan friesen
So this is a common right-wing media lie, saying that Sweden didn't do anything to mitigate damage done by the coronavirus, and they got along just fine.
It's essentially an argument against our public health measures using an imaginary version of what a completely different country did as support.
The first important point is that Sweden did not do nothing.
For instance, they banned gatherings of more than 50 people, they put restrictions on visits to care homes, and they restricted bar service at restaurants.
But many have said that this approach was not nearly enough, and some of the stats really bear that out.
A July article in the BBC points out that over 5,500 people had died from COVID-19 in Sweden, which gave it, quote, one of the highest death rates relative to population size in Europe.
A CBS News article from July points out that the death rate in Sweden is 30% higher than in the United States when the data is adjusted for population size.
jordan holmes
See, they didn't do anything and it worked out fine.
dan friesen
The strategy that Sweden used would be wrong to call a total success, given that tons of people died.
And there's no evidence that the ultimate goal has been achieved.
The presumptive goals were to reach herd immunity, which has not been done, and to protect the economy, which also has not necessarily happened as one might have designed it to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, like, if individuals there had acted like Alex and his anti-mask weirdo friends, there's a pretty good chance that could be a complete nightmare in the making.
jordan holmes
Nobody stormed the statehouse with guns being like, no, we'll never wear masks!
That didn't happen in Sweden, I assume, right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Are they a blue state or a red state?
dan friesen
Probably blue.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
According to Alex.
Okay.
So, yeah, he has this notion that Sweden did nothing, and it's all just...
What?
What are you saying?
jordan holmes
It's easy to lie about things.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex gets to talking about his fears and his paranoias about the coming election.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I'll tell you this.
Mark Zuckerberg may or may not...
jordan holmes
Become president?
dan friesen
No.
He's in charge of telling us what's gonna happen, apparently, or something.
But we do find out who's gonna become president.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And Zuckerberg...
It says that it'll be days or even weeks.
And once you accept weeks of a delayed election, it'll be months.
And on January 20th, if the president and vice president have not been seated with the electors, then guess who becomes the president?
The 46th president.
Nancy!
The Crypt Keeper!
unidentified
Pelosi!
And then if she steps down, do you know who comes next?
Hillary.
jordan holmes
Come on.
Michelle?
alex jones
So...
dan friesen
He doesn't say.
jordan holmes
He doesn't say?
unidentified
What do you mean he doesn't say?
dan friesen
He just makes those noises.
jordan holmes
You can't just make those noises!
dan friesen
Barely you can.
So Pelosi would only become president based on her currently being the Speaker of the House, but there's no guarantee that she will still be Speaker of the House after the November election.
She has a general election against Shahid Buttar on November 3rd, and although she has a good chance of winning that, there is a chance that she won't be in office to become president in the scenario Alex is imagining.
If Pelosi lost, it's not like Batar would just automatically become the speaker, though.
jordan holmes
No, you dethroned the person.
dan friesen
It doesn't work that way.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
If you kill the king, you become the king.
That's how it works.
dan friesen
It's not like whoever's in California's 12th district just gets to be speaker.
jordan holmes
That'd be a weird rule.
dan friesen
Yeah, there would be another Democrat representative who would be chosen to be speaker, but that's also uncertain.
The Democrats have a fair majority in the House, but that's not promised, and though it's unlikely, the GOP could win back the House, and then they'd get to choose the Speaker, and we'd fuck around and end up with President Jim Jordan or President Matt Gaetz.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
There's two choices, and it's all nightmares.
dan friesen
Alex is painting a scenario to imply that Pelosi would choose Hillary as her VP, then step down and make Hillary president.
This is just about the most unlikely turn of events imaginable, but it really gets under the audience's skin, so this is what he always chooses to portray as the globalist evil plan, because it works.
Pisses off the audience.
jordan holmes
Damn it!
I would revolt if Hillary became president.
If Nancy Pelosi was like...
Haha, surprise!
It's Hillary!
Like, that's a huge fuck-off.
I'm done.
I'm out.
Nah, nah, nah.
dan friesen
That would be late WCW wrestling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally!
dan friesen
That would be...
unidentified
Hillary comes in with a fucking chair and hits Nessie Pelosi in the head.
alex jones
I'm the president now.
dan friesen
It would be a little much in terms of, like, convoluted...
Like, we've lost the thread.
This is Vince Russo-ass booking.
We've got to stop.
So yeah, I don't know how this one's going to fly.
So Alex is dancing around, hitting some news stories, skimming some headlines, as he does.
This is what Alex calls, like, covering the news.
alex jones
Governor Noem rejects report that Sturgis rally led to hundreds of thousands of COVID cases is fiction.
Yes, it is.
Trump campaign crowd appeared to violate North Carolina mask order.
Good.
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's great coverage of the news.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Reads the headlines like, you bet.
jordan holmes
Gnome says it's bullshit.
Damn right.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
jordan holmes
They didn't wear masks.
Better believe it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
Next story.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to pull up Politico here and I'm going to cover the news.
jordan holmes
All right.
Here we go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Let's see what you got.
What's your news?
dan friesen
Okay.
You know, we had some deep analysis here.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Federal judge blocks Trump's census order on undocumented immigrants.
unidentified
Fuck yeah!
Shouldn't have done that.
Oh, Nelly!
jordan holmes
Alright, next story.
unidentified
Ukraine gas company to add Rick Perry to its board.
Awooka!
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
I don't know.
That sounds wrong.
Just reading, cold reading headlines.
jordan holmes
Just cold reading that headline made me frustrated.
dan friesen
White House moves to curb policing of corporate misbehavior.
jordan holmes
That's right, that's what they did.
Alright, did we do it?
dan friesen
I don't know if anybody has any better understanding of those stories or anything now.
I feel like we just wasted a couple minutes.
jordan holmes
Nah, we did great.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
You wouldn't have known about Rick Perry being invited to join a Ukraine oil company.
dan friesen
I still don't.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Did that actually happen?
I don't think you can tell that from the headlines.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Look, that was as informative as any news roundup on Alex's show, and I don't even know what those stories were.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
There's a lot of indications of Alex leaning in on this episode toward kind of intense, violent talk, you know?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But it's all just about, like, how, you know, he constantly has this, like, you'll know when the time is right.
You'll know.
Everything will be, you know, they're trying to go hot.
All this stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And, like, you listen to a clip like this, and you're like, you can't be saying it's some eventual time.
Like, this has to be when the time is.
alex jones
I'm going to get into the pre-planning for the martial law, destabilization, collapse of the stock market, race war, the execution of the beta test, then the white paper saying they were going to go operational three months ago.
Now they're going operational, and we're now in the operation.
It's now been launched.
And it's official, and they're doing it.
Just like they loaded up a train full of TNT and started it towards a town, and it's going to just blow up when it hits the town.
I mean, it's...
It's coming down the tracks.
It's going 100 miles an hour, and it's coming right up.
Wow.
dan friesen
Wow, indeed.
jordan holmes
Okay, so you'll know when the time is right.
dan friesen
There's a train coming to your town with TNT, 100 miles an hour.
The plan is operational.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Like, later then?
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
So how many trains do you have to get hit by before it's time?
dan friesen
Well, I know that Alex isn't big on the whole notion of absorbing the first hit.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
In terms of nuclear warfare and such.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I don't know when you're talking metaphorical trains.
But you understand, like, the point that I'm making isn't so much that Alex is directly saying you gotta go shoot people or anything like that.
Sure.
The disjointed nature of this rhetoric, the almost self-contradictory hold off, oh wait, there's a train full of TNT coming to your town, the plan is operational right now!
It leaves the audience in a state of complete, like, if you listen to this and you thought Alex was telling you it's time to go kill some people, you would be justified.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
You could make a pretty solid argument from Alex's words.
That that was the message he was trying to drive to you.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
If on Monday you say, these are the conditions that we know, and when these conditions happen, you have to go kill people, and then you stop there and say, you'll know when it's time, and then on Tuesday you say, the operation has started, they're coming to kill us.
dan friesen
With a train full of TNT 100 miles an hour.
jordan holmes
It's like a two-day-old split infinitive.
You're still saying now is the time.
Just because you're waiting a day in between, it doesn't count.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's really, really bad to do that to the audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, I mean, I think probably one of the biggest stories of the week, the last week and a half, ten days.
Joe Rogan went to Spotify, my man.
jordan holmes
Yes, I've heard that was the biggest story that I've read so far.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
This year.
dan friesen
And when he went.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Certain episodes were not included in the jump to Spotify.
jordan holmes
Oh, did they get rid of all those Duncan Trussell ones?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
A lot of people didn't like those.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
He gets a little out there.
unidentified
Duncan's hippie ass is still there.
dan friesen
And that's great.
Alex, out.
Milo, out.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Sargon of Akkad, out.
Who could have guessed?
Dave Seaman, out!
A lot of people made a big deal out of this.
It kind of makes total sense.
And if you're Joe Rogan and Spotify's like, I'll give you $100 million, you just gotta take down these assholes episodes.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Fuck yes.
I don't care.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, wait.
Oh, no.
I can't have Alex Jones episodes.
I've gotta take those off the Spotify archive.
Oh, please censor me for $100 million.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
All right.
There are things that if they were trying to censor you, I would hope that no matter what level of money you receive, you would fight back and fight against it.
If they're censoring your Alex Jones episode...
You're like, I like a hundred million dollars.
Fuck Alex.
Alex is a piece of shit.
He said he was gonna gut me.
I'm gonna get his shit off of here.
dan friesen
Well, that was when he was being a sneaky snake.
Joe was being a sneaky snake and he was working for the globalists.
jordan holmes
Don't blame the gut-ee here.
Blame the gut-er.
dan friesen
Sneaky snake working for the globalists.
And you know it.
He knew it.
jordan holmes
He did know it.
dan friesen
Alex started talking about Rogan's kids on the podcast.
That was gross.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's really fucked up.
dan friesen
So anyway, it's very clear to the external observer that what's going on is that Joe got a really, really good deal.
Yeah.
unidentified
That he doesn't have to worry about sponsorships.
dan friesen
He doesn't have to worry about any of that shit.
Never.
unidentified
Guaranteed money for the rest of his career.
dan friesen
Totally.
Bye, Alex!
jordan holmes
Bye, Alex!
Bye, forever!
dan friesen
Oh, sorry!
But it turns out, because he is in Austin also, and he's probably going to run into Alex at the Luby's or wherever.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Not anymore, Dan.
dan friesen
Well, that's true.
Luby's is...
jordan holmes
Luby's is shuttering its doors.
dan friesen
We'll miss you, Luby's.
jordan holmes
Bye, Luby's.
Those old ladies are never going to eat for free again.
dan friesen
Nope.
Alex will not be able to pay for sad people's meals.
In the future.
But I think he knows that he can't not talk to Alex ever.
So he's giving Alex a line of bullshit.
alex jones
And I told you that Joe was debating which hundred episodes he was going to keep on YouTube under their deal and what he was going to put on Spotify because they can't be both places.
But I got word yesterday, I guess, Spotify's figuring out how much they need to be on YouTube and have content both places because that'll just promote over to Spotify.
I thought it was a very dumb idea to get rid of all those episodes.
Oh, so now my episodes will be on both platforms.
So see how that works?
There was a big debate going on with them about what was the best to do.
It's free on Spotify, but they have like a gold member deal.
And so they're just figuring it out.
It was not a censorship issue.
I told you, I called up Joe, had a 30-minute conversation with him last week, and I told you the truth.
It's just that Joe said, whatever the most controversial, whatever the highest views are, let me review a list.
Spotify kind of held back some of the highest viewed, but also some of what they thought was controversial.
Probably kind of hoping Joe didn't pay attention, and then that didn't go over there.
But then that blew up.
So there was some truth that it was censorship, but Joe's in control, so it stopped.
dan friesen
I love the idea that within that minute, Alex was like, I'm not being censored.
Well, there was censorship going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
There's a little censorship going on.
dan friesen
I have a Spotify premium account, and those episodes aren't on there.
jordan holmes
Oh, they're not on there?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, they're not behind the little paywall?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Oh, man.
I have heard that very conversation from a comic who's been banned from a show.
No, no, no.
They're going to get me back on CYSK for sure.
It's just like, I'm not allowed to go back on for a little while.
I just don't want to overbook people.
dan friesen
They said it's too controversial that I peed in a glass on stage.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But look.
Sometimes you need controversies.
unidentified
Sometimes you need people who are going to push the envelope, but you can't book them every five years.
jordan holmes
The envelope's got to be stained.
dan friesen
It's got to be every six years.
That's why I haven't been on in a while.
jordan holmes
Totally.
I've heard that nonsense before.
Get out of here.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
It's great.
I love this.
This is Alex realizing that...
jordan holmes
You've been let down easy, buddy.
You've been let down easy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So it turns out that Alex believes that it became a stock issue.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
Spotify's stock might have been in trouble if they allowed Alex's Rogan episodes on or something.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
And Joe had said, I want to give you one of my first guests when I get to Austin.
And then that became a huge national issue and it was a stock issue and all the rest of it.
But Joe will be here soon and I will be with him soon.
I'm going to leave it at that.
Because it's really uncanny.
His office will be right on the street from me.
It's weird.
jordan holmes
It is weird.
dan friesen
It's not that weird.
You have a rental office space area.
It makes sense that Rogan would find something commercially available.
Sure.
I would say you probably might see Joe when he comes to see you.
jordan holmes
You're not going to be on the show, buddy.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I mean, if he's still putting some episodes out just on YouTube, then I could see that.
jordan holmes
YouTube doesn't allow Alex on there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but they allow Rogan to have Alex on.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, those episodes are still on YouTube.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
And other things that have had Alex on as guests, like Patrick Bat-David, his interview with Alex isn't gone.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I don't know.
Obviously, I don't know the intricacies of this Spotify deal, but...
I would guess, based on the fact that Alex's episodes did not make the migration, it seems to imply that...
Oh, and if it was a stock issue...
jordan holmes
It was a stock issue!
Their stock would have gone down.
If Alex was on...
If you have Alex on the Joe Rogan podcast, the market tanks, Dan.
There's Black Tuesday, and then there's the day Alex is allowed on Spotify.
dan friesen
I would assume that if Alex wants to do a podcast with Joe, it's going to be in the InfoWars studio, and it's not going to be the Rogan experience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets off this topic, although he does talk about it for a while, and he starts ranting about what it's going to be like when the death of the dollar comes.
Sure.
alex jones
They're going to have 10, 20 years of depression and then buy it all up and break our will and then they'll turn America back on later and have it be a threat to China and have a bipolar world again.
But right now they want to have China take over and have a big run, probably for 50 years.
And so...
Probably.
Folks, I start thinking about what the death of the dollar would look like.
We're talking Great Depression, but ten times worse.
And we're talking war in the streets.
And so I'll talk about that coming up.
Speaking of the devil, I don't want to exaggerate, but let's put up the name of the cell right now for TV viewers, please.
This headline is not an exaggeration.
Save Infowars, save the republic, save yourself.
jordan holmes
Speaking of the devil, I gotta sell you something so we can fight the literal devil.
dan friesen
Oh, the death of the dollar is coming and everything is gonna be so terrible, so use those dollars to buy my pills.
jordan holmes
You won't need them later.
Dollar's gonna die.
You better use them now.
dan friesen
So, Alex needs your money immediately.
And he rambles quite a bit on this episode about going out of business in the very near future.
And as is my new tradition, I refuse to take the bait.
I'm not going to take the bait, Alex.
alex jones
I literally have agonized over this last few weeks.
But I'll just tell you.
We have everything we have in stock.
A lot of it we can't even reorder.
Everything's breaking down.
The supply chain's breaking down.
Everything's falling apart.
We're under a massive Chinese government hack attack right now, both sides.
They're secure, but it slows them down.
Costs us tons of money to fight it.
This is a real war.
So if you ever wanted an Infowars t-shirt, or you ever wanted to get an Alexa Pure Breeze, or you ever wanted to buy some of the supplements and see how they are and support us, now's the time, folks.
You don't want to wait.
This is sudden death, overtime, Super Bowl, but for the whole future, everybody.
With all their strategic attacks and things that are going on, I need to get fuel in the gas tank.
Let's say the fuel tank is on a tenth of a tank, and I've got to go 100 miles.
I've got enough gas to go 50 miles.
Okay?
So there's a lot of things I can do.
I have to make decisions, and I've seen the big support last week, big support this week.
That buys us the extra support we just got, bought us maybe in my gas tank another three weeks.
I need to sell everything.
dan friesen
I am not taking the bait, Alex.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
And I'm definitely not dealing with a barrage of similes like that ever again.
dan friesen
He is the master of metaphor.
He knows how to really...
Just paint a word picture of...
It's like a gas tank that's one-tenth full.
I gotta go 100 miles, but I can only go 50 miles.
jordan holmes
It's like I've got an empty stomach, but I'm hungry, and I only have one donut hole, so you guys gotta give me more donut holes, otherwise my stomach is gonna be empty.
dan friesen
Makes total sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it makes...
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So it's bad...
It's bad, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
So I'm probably just going to say we're selling out of everything and then sell it at full price and then hope we have enough money to buy stuff into the future or go back to an advertising model or donations model, which people don't respond to.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I wonder why.
alex jones
Because if Trump loses and they're going to put us in a depression anyway, it's just going to be so hellish.
We're all going to enjoy it together.
I mean, I feel sorry for everybody, man.
I tried my best.
You know what I mean?
But I mean, it's bad.
It's bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This feels almost exactly the same as...
jordan holmes
We've been here before, Dan.
dan friesen
I think it was December, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
When it was almost exactly like this.
I probably can't order more stock.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But now, there's two possibilities, because I hadn't heard that kind of shit before December.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
So, it's possible that Alex has just had to escalate to, like, new levels of, I need you to support the...
Sure.
Or, it's possible that that was...
Kind of accurate then, and he got enough to skate by, and now he's back in the same hole that he was in before.
I don't know, but again, I'm not taking the bait.
But it bears mentioning that this is going on again.
It's happening again to a level that is, I would call, overwhelming.
If you listen to his episode, it's like, wow, this is a lot.
Yeah, this is happening over and over and over again.
So, Alex gets into a little bit of etymology here.
We know that a lot of his guests don't know how words work.
jordan holmes
No, that's definitely true.
dan friesen
And it turns out that he believes them probably because he just doesn't understand words either.
alex jones
It's like in that movie Elysium where she says, you know, you'll be lucky if you don't hang for this.
And he goes, hang?
We do the hanging.
That's all that gives orders like Tony Montana says is balls.
And this isn't about bragging.
It's about you knowing how powerful you are.
You are just as important as anybody in the government, anybody at the New York Times, anybody at the Financial Times of London, anybody at the FBI.
You're a sovereign person.
That's not a slave.
You're a good person.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
And InfoWars is directly organic out of the dirt, like a lily out of the Nile mud.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
You are Moses.
That's what Moses is after.
Egyptian word for lily in the mud.
dan friesen
That's not true.
jordan holmes
I just love the confidence of that.
Just such a, just like any object, just, hey, that's a pen.
Do you know where the word pen comes from?
dan friesen
Where's that?
jordan holmes
It comes from the Sumerian for pen.
dan friesen
Oh, cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's great.
I know all about it.
dan friesen
Well, it's because the serpent loves word games.
jordan holmes
That's where Jesus comes from.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I would say that there's a real interesting difference between being like, hey, you're just as valid as anybody who writes for the New York Times or anybody in the FBI.
They're just a person like you.
jordan holmes
Just a person.
dan friesen
And there is some truth to that on just, like, being a human.
jordan holmes
That's why you should arrest an FBI agent if you don't like them.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's different things that people in different positions are capable of doing.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
You know.
jordan holmes
I think if you have a pair of handcuffs, you can arrest people.
You're basically in the FBI.
I think that's how that works.
dan friesen
I think that's a functional plan.
So I also love that Alex opened that with two movie references.
That is impressive.
Like, within 15 seconds, just two movies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's Elysium.
It's like Tony Montana.
jordan holmes
It's like Tony Montana.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So he keeps rambling about he and his boys, the good people.
They're the ones who do the killing.
alex jones
We're on the ground.
We see what's really going on.
We're where the crops are grown, where the engines get fixed, where the diapers get changed, where the dinner gets cooked, where the house gets cleaned, where the cuts get stitched.
unidentified
You guys are busy.
alex jones
Just take a break.
This is where the living and the dying happens.
This is where you come into the world, you go out of the world.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, the living part, fine.
Stop with the killing talk.
jordan holmes
Stop with the killing talk.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You're creeping me out.
jordan holmes
Man, it just doesn't seem like the good guys are ever described as, we love killing!
dan friesen
We're the ones who do the killing!
jordan holmes
We do all the killing!
We're the good guys, right?
dan friesen
Generally is at least a suspicious sign.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the thing is, if we're the ones who are doing the killing, that's fine, because the other side, they ain't got no soul, baby!
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
alex jones
They're like running around with a hanger and they're pulling the pins to blow themselves up, hoping some of the shrapnel hits us.
I mean, this is followers.
This is slaves doing this.
These are pathetic people.
Don't let Zuckerberg demoralize you.
He's a pathetic nobody.
All of them have been chosen because they're so weak and so spiritless.
They have no God in them.
Nothing.
No connection to the Father.
No connection.
It's all synthetic garbage.
Mark Zuckerberg's one of the poorest people on Earth.
jordan holmes
I get it.
alex jones
But they know you're rich spiritually.
That's why they want to make you poor, so you don't have money to be free.
Money is not worshipped like they worship it, because it gives them control.
Money is a symbol of energy, and I need it.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Continue the fight.
So I'm going to tell you right now, 50% off DNA Force Plus.
dan friesen
Wow!
jordan holmes
That was impressive.
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
That was impressive.
dan friesen
That's amazing!
jordan holmes
That really was impressive.
That was a twist.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
There was crap to that.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It felt more like flailing.
jordan holmes
It could have been flailing.
dan friesen
It kind of felt more like somebody who...
You've seen those videos of people who are skydiving and they somehow survive without their shit?
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's really what that felt like to me.
That was like, yeah, I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
You made it.
jordan holmes
You landed.
dan friesen
But it was ugly.
I think that was really ugly.
jordan holmes
I could see that being a riff that was just going on too long, and then he heard himself say money, and he was like, money's my out, buddy.
I got stuff to sell.
dan friesen
Speaking of money.
Yeah.
And also, he said Mark Zuckerberg.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Remember that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because he knows what his name is.
jordan holmes
Is he in the 12th?
dan friesen
Which is weird.
Okay.
So, Alex...
This gets back from break, and he's talking about some culture issues.
And, man, this dude could get mad about anything.
alex jones
And I haven't even gotten into all the race war news.
I mean, just one of the craziest parts of the technocracy is the biggest video game sports maker of video games came out, and they have a game where Colin Kaepernick's the best quarterback in the NFL.
I mean, he used to.
All those games actually went off the real ratings.
He's not a very good quarterback.
There's some great black quarterbacks, but he's not even black anyways.
dan friesen
Yikes!
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Yikes!
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I mean, leaving the racism aside, man, I can't imagine how angry he was when NBA Jam Tournament Edition put Bill Clinton in the game.
Bill Clinton can't dunk?
jordan holmes
They used to.
You know what?
NBA Jam used to be about the ratings.
dan friesen
It was.
jordan holmes
It was.
It used to be about the ratings.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Gary Pateman drilled threes all day.
unidentified
Absolutely.
Bill Clinton?
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No!
Let me see him do one crossover.
dan friesen
Ronnie Cycli, that's a guy who can dunk.
Bill Clinton, Al Gore, absolutely not.
What are they doing in the game?
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Can you imagine if NBA Jam had Bill Clinton in both realistic stats?
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
See, here's what Alex is missing.
What he needs to do is stop complaining about adding people to games and start inviting them to add more people to different games.
Mortal Kombat?
Why isn't Bill Clinton a playable character?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
That is a great question.
Ask Ed Boone.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
We gotta start this.
dan friesen
So yeah, I don't know.
Alex seems really bent out of shape about the idea that Colin Kaepernick has good stats in a Hideo game.
Let me go ahead and respond to this by saying I don't care.
jordan holmes
Oh, why not?
It's a statement of our values, right?
As a country?
unidentified
To put Colin Kaepernick into a video game?
This is Alex...
jordan holmes
I mean, he's still technically a free agent.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And he's still in the game.
dan friesen
He's not a bad football player.
jordan holmes
No, he's actually quite good.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's actually very good at that.
dan friesen
I didn't even look into this to find, like, oh, what are the stats?
Is Alex exaggerating this?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I can't care.
I just can't care.
And the fact that Alex cares is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
It is a problem.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing.
jordan holmes
It is a problem.
dan friesen
Oh, world leaders, listen to my show where I complain about black quarterbacks having good stats.
jordan holmes
There are some good black quarterbacks, so this isn't a race thing.
dan friesen
It's not a race thing.
But I don't want the ones whose political views I disagree with to have good stats in a video game.
unidentified
You know what, a lot of people don't like Donovan McNabb, but I'll tell you what, he was a good quarterback.
dan friesen
Putin's sitting around, he's like, Alex has very interesting ideas.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
I'll have to talk to my enemy, the literal devil.
dan friesen
Yikes.
So, Zuckerberg, he appears to be rich, like Alex has already touched on.
jordan holmes
And he is.
dan friesen
He has money.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
But he can only do what his overlords let him do.
jordan holmes
Destroy democracy?
dan friesen
He has to ask for permission.
alex jones
People like Zuckerberg get told how big a jet he can have, and how many houses, and what he can buy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
By JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, and others.
He's a front man.
He gets told by Bill Gates.
I mean, Bill Gates has finally gotten to the table of the round table at the highest levels.
I thought he was in the 12. His minion, his trainee, his apprentice is Jeff Zuckerberg.
Come on over, dude.
What's up?
Oh, my earpiece has popped out.
Oh, sorry.
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
So, now it's Jeff Zuckerberg.
jordan holmes
I think that was a Bezos Zuckerberg.
dan friesen
He does this a lot.
It's really sloppy.
Yeah, I mean, maybe Zuckerberg is told how many houses he can buy by his financial advisors.
Maybe he has people who tell him, hey, don't waste.
jordan holmes
Still don't care.
If he buys more than one house...
I still don't care.
I still don't care.
dan friesen
Also, we're in this weird sort of Schrodinger's Bill Gates situation where he's a member of the Council of Twelve.
He's one of the leaders of the world unless...
G. Edward Griffin is on the show.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he thinks that Bill Gates is a middleman.
Oh, no, Skousen.
jordan holmes
Skousen was the middleman.
dan friesen
Skousen was saying that Bill Gates is a middleman.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and now Bill Gates is in some kind of limbo where he was a middleman, but now he's finally got his seat at the table.
But even then, we don't know if the table is the 12s.
dan friesen
I think the table is the 12s.
jordan holmes
We might have gotten rid of the 12 entirely.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's a big table.
So Alex is still mad about Kaepernick.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
alex jones
The greatest Nazi.
If you want to be a real Nazi, a real race-based person, wanting race war and wanting racial identity, it's Colin Kaepernick.
For PR purposes and all of it, he's the greatest Nazi.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Talk about black folks.
He's the greatest so-called black guy that's closest to Hitler.
Who's closest to Christ?
I'm not comparing him to Christ.
I'm saying who's the closest to that?
It'd be Kanye West.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
What?
Wait.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Wait, what just happened?
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Did I just hear that Colin Kaepernick, a guy who was blackballed for kneeling during the anthem, is actually a Nazi.
Because he was blackballed for kneeling during the anthem.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Closest to a Nazi you can get.
Alex is sort of ranking black celebrities, which is not good.
jordan holmes
It does seem like that.
He's kind of arguing that there's an equilibrium of black celebrities.
dan friesen
There's a continuum, and on one side is Colin Kaepernick, and on the other is closest to Jesus, and that's Kanye West.
jordan holmes
And that's Kanye West.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
I feel like those aren't the ends of the spectrum.
dan friesen
No, and I don't have anything to say that would, like, I don't want to dignify this with any kind of, like, even response.
jordan holmes
You don't want a fantasy book continuum?
No.
dan friesen
I reject the idea altogether.
I just present this as, oh, this is how Alex's brain works.
jordan holmes
That's weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a weird thing for a human to think.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets into talking about a news story.
There's an actual story, and it's about voting.
And, yeah, it's a bit off.
alex jones
1,000 people illegally voted twice during primary elections using advocacy ballots.
And I read what the state official over this said.
He looked into it.
That was a sampling.
And they found 1,000.
Videos up on Infowars.com.
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffenspringer confirmed that at least 1,000 Georgian votes twice in the state's June 9th primary.
Oh, and guess who they mainly were?
I think you can guess what party cheats a lot.
dan friesen
Yours?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm gonna go with yours.
dan friesen
This Georgia primary story is interesting because there is something going on here, but it actually doesn't work out at all for Alex's voter fraud narratives about the presidential election.
Alex has been arguing against expanding mail-in voting, but he's always made the point that absentee voting is totally cool.
He has to believe that because Trump says that, and he's nothing if not a follower.
This is where the Georgia story is a problem.
All these instances that he's talking about are cases of people who sent in absentee ballots who also showed up on election day to the polls and voted.
So it has nothing to do with the fears and conspiracies about mail-in votes.
This story also highlights that people who do this sort of thing get caught.
The evidence is that they did.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
What do you mean?
dan friesen
Well, the situation here is very unclear, because the investigation is still ongoing, but there are a couple of benign possibilities here that aren't good, but also aren't really intentional election fraud.
One possibility is that people sent in absentee ballots and didn't know if they'd been counted, so they thought they should vote in person to be sure, which isn't good, but they also might not have known that that was a crime.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The second possibility is brought up in an article in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Quote, So there are possible explanations for this that boil down to bad voter education and poor communication about the process, but not criminal intent.
jordan holmes
I've been on Yahoo Answers.
I imagine somebody was told, like, if you feel like you voted wrong, go to the polling place and vote for the other guy to cancel it out.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
You know, like, it's borderline that level of, I get it.
dan friesen
Well, you could have been on Yahoo Answers, or you could have gone to Trump's rally in North Carolina last week.
jordan holmes
Oh, there we go.
dan friesen
Where he literally said, quote, so send it in, and then see, and then vote, and see what happens.
Now you're assured, though, that your very precious and important vote has been counted.
Trump was explicitly telling his followers to try to vote twice, the very thing that Alex Yeah, exactly.
It's Democrats running against Democrats and Republicans against Republicans.
Yeah.
unidentified
So I'm unclear how this conspiracy is supposed to be working.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Don't you get it?
Because it only happens in the Democratic primary, because they're cheating even each other.
Because blue states don't have souls, Dan.
And also, I'm going to have to say that Uruguay is a blue state as well.
I just have to.
dan friesen
So yeah, I don't understand exactly what the point here is.
And I also don't really know what all the details are of the actual story in Georgia.
But I think it's interesting, and I think more information will be known eventually.
But I think it's entirely possible that there was no...
And necessarily attempt to fraudulently vote as much as people didn't know what the deal was.
And, I mean, in this election cycle, you would expect to see increased incidences of that along with just completely screwed up voting systems.
People who don't understand, you know, people who are new to absentee ballots not knowing the process exactly.
It makes sense that there would be some hiccups.
And the fact that people are able to catch this means that those checks are also in place.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you want to get rid of this type of mail-in fraud ballots or whatever it is, if you want to deal with that type of fraud...
Eh, nah.
dan friesen
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
According to Alex.
Just let Trump be in charge.
jordan holmes
Just make him king.
dan friesen
I'm bored.
So, for the rest of this episode, an hour of this episode.
jordan holmes
An hour of this episode.
dan friesen
Alex has a buddy of his, Shane Steiner in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because Shane went down to the old boat parade in Lake Travis.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he has some thoughts about it.
jordan holmes
Shane was in the crash.
dan friesen
Well, no.
He was jumping out of a helicopter.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Let's hear him tell the story.
alex jones
By the way, my buddy Shane Steiner flew his helicopter around, shot some amazing HD footage of the biggest Trump boat rally yet.
Probably 6,000 boats are saying, like Travis last weekend, word is it's coming up again this Saturday.
He's coming in studio to talk about that and more and show that HD footage, stay So yeah, some boats did sink.
jordan holmes
So he's not...
He's burying the lead on that one, right?
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
This was a huge success in his mind.
dan friesen
Look.
unidentified
I heard from people that were out there on the boats that said that was the most fun they've ever had on Lake Travis.
So everybody's out there having a good time.
dan friesen
Everyone's having a good time, man.
jordan holmes
I've heard from people that it was not the most fun time they've ever had.
Because they were inside the water under a broken...
dan friesen
Well, look, man.
The news says that.
unidentified
I hate to admit this, but I just found out what gaslighting is.
And it's when your own eyes are telling you something different than you're being told is going on.
And so that's what that whole day was.
So when I got home and started reading the articles...
Of all the boats sinking and just the chaos and the...
alex jones
They said seven boats.
It was all exaggerated.
unidentified
Well, they'd say several.
alex jones
I mean, if you get 6,000 boats, something's going to happen, though.
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Now, I'm not going to say that no boats sink, but they acted like it was armadas just going down at the helm, but...
dan friesen
I love this idea that he's like, oh, I feel so gaslit by the news saying the boats sunk.
Now, some boats did sink.
jordan holmes
I still don't think you understand what gaslighting is, despite the fact that you defined it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's very difficult.
dan friesen
Now I'm not gonna say that no boat sank.
jordan holmes
People are calling it like this armada.
Now there were 6,000 boats.
dan friesen
No, he's saying that like some armada sunk a bunch of boats.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And sure, I mean, great.
The coverage of the event did largely focus on the fact that boats sank.
But that's because that's the anomaly.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Otherwise it's just a bunch of assholes on boats.
dan friesen
Right.
What makes it newsworthy is a lot of them sunk.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, none of us would have cared.
dan friesen
I don't understand why this is so confusing for Mr. Shane Steiner.
jordan holmes
Keep on your boats!
That's fine.
dan friesen
So, this is the weirdest hour.
Because it has nothing to do with anything important.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It barely has to do with his adventure in Lake Travis.
It mostly has to do with how great having a helicopter is.
jordan holmes
That actually sounds fun.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
That sounds fun.
Having a helicopter.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
Not listening to this interview.
jordan holmes
Bill Burr makes it sound great.
I assume this guy makes it sound great.
dan friesen
He's like, hey, you know, it's really safe.
And they say that it's not safe.
And I'm like, okay, I don't care.
I don't care.
But, you know, apparently there's like commercial or like sort of civilian drones that fly around.
That can make things more dangerous.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
dan friesen
As Alex and Shane say and talk about in this next clip, they almost got hit by a drone one time.
unidentified
The drones flying around actually is a risk to other pilots.
In fact, you and I almost ran into a drone one time.
We were flying around downtown and...
alex jones
Big one came right up.
unidentified
Yeah, it was eye level to us and they kind of went off to the left and we went off to the right and we just passed each other.
alex jones
He did.
Luckily, he was watching.
He flew right up in front of us.
unidentified
He went, yeah.
But still, I mean, if that would have flown into us, that would have been fun.
alex jones
That was an Imperial probe droid.
unidentified
You always got to bring it back to Star Wars.
alex jones
Well, I mean, not that I'm even into it.
Aren't you glad, Star Wars?
The whole franchise is bankrupt now because they made it SJW.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's kind of gone down.
dan friesen
In the past five years, the Star Wars franchise has brought in approximately $6 billion at the box office, if you include Solo and Rogue One, which is way, way more than they cost to make.
The Force Awakens is the number four highest grossing film of all time.
Star Wars is nowhere near bankrupt, but this is the right-wing narrative that they use to make themselves feel like they're opposition to diverse casts.
It seems like it's more universally held than it actually is.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Shut the...
jordan holmes
Shut the fuck up.
I'm not even really that into it.
Shut the fuck up.
dan friesen
You know what that moment was there?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Alex brings up repeatedly in this interview that he and Shane went to high school together.
So this is like a guy who's like, oh, you dork.
jordan holmes
Oh, this is him being like...
dan friesen
Alex is getting bullied!
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, Alex.
dan friesen
Shane Steiner is a guy who's like a lot more in shape.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
He had a hit on the country music charts.
Back in the early 2000s.
Why not?
He has a bit more status than Alex.
He flies around in a helicopter.
jordan holmes
And that...
That, of course, makes Alex turn into, like, I'll roll over and let you scratch my belly.
dan friesen
Yeah, you always bring it back to Star Wars.
I'm not even that into it.
jordan holmes
I'm not even that into Star Wars.
dan friesen
Granted, I do impressions of Emperor Palpatine all the fucking time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I've come into every show with the Imperial March.
jordan holmes
Well, that's just a great song.
I just think it's a great song.
unidentified
It's not that into it.
jordan holmes
It's just a good song.
I'm not a big fan.
unidentified
Not that into it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's SJW.
dan friesen
SJW, bankrupt nonsense.
jordan holmes
Bankrupt Star Wars.
dan friesen
Six billion dollars.
jordan holmes
Look, sure, it's the size of a small economy, Dan.
dan friesen
All three of the last Star Wars movies that came out are in the top, like, 35 movies in terms of box office gross of all time.
jordan holmes
Of course they are.
It's kind of a big deal.
dan friesen
It's huge.
jordan holmes
A lot of people like it.
dan friesen
So now we jump to the 10th, because the rest of it is just helicopter talk, and I don't care.
jordan holmes
All right.
Well, we're gonna have to get rid of my new phone number idea.
1-800-HELICOPTER-TALK.
dan friesen
That's too many letters.
jordan holmes
Is that too many letters?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, on the evening of the 9th, Woodward came out of the woodwork, and a lot of the excerpts of the book started to go around.
People were talking about...
I mean, what do you think was the big news?
jordan holmes
Um, let's see.
I...
Oh, what was it?
unidentified
Trump...
jordan holmes
Trump said something about some sort of global disease, I think.
I'm pretty sure he said that it was a giant hoax and that no one should pay attention to it.
And he was recorded saying it.
CNN put out those tapes that he said it was a giant hoax way back, right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, it's not?
dan friesen
He didn't say that.
I can't even tell what your bit is.
jordan holmes
Oh, I was being sarcastic.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Because he said that coronavirus was more than later than you, and it was airborne.
He said it was airborne.
dan friesen
And he said that he always tries to downplay it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure, you gotta downplay it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Now, that was what a lot of the media was reporting.
That was sort of the headline, because it's terrifying.
And...
jordan holmes
What?
Because it makes Trump a premeditated murderer?
dan friesen
An argument can be made.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there are fucking tapes that you can hear of Trump literally saying those things.
jordan holmes
That was Anthony Otaminick.
Everybody knows that he does the best Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So when I was sitting around looking at the news of this come out, I was like...
This is gonna be trouble for Alex.
jordan holmes
I didn't think it would be.
dan friesen
I kind of figured he'd be able to find some way to, much like, again, the guy jumping out of an airplane and the chute doesn't open.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Accidentally land right.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I figured there was something he was gonna be able to do or, like, be like, yeah, you know, Trump was just doing that to, like, play for the global.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This was all part of his 12th dimensional chess game.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex went a slightly different direction.
alex jones
The year is 2020.
53 days out.
And look at these mainstream headlines.
Mad Dog Mattis discussed secret military coup against President Trump while serving in his White House.
Plot to overthrow US government.
dan friesen
Here you can see how there's two different media ecosystems and they're reporting on the same underlying story with a different version.
That's the, there's a blurb from Bob Woodward's new book that Alex and Zero Hedge have decided to run with and make the main focus, which is General Mattis apparently had a conversation with Dan Coats about how there may come a time when action would need to be taken because Trump was dangerous.
This can be the lead of the story and the thing that's the most important, and it allows these people to just ignore or dismiss the other elements of the story that, like we talked about, that other outlets are focusing on, which...
is terrifying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I mean, it's like the boats.
You know, a lot of people aren't realizing how much fun we had along the way.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Two different media ecosystems, two different realities.
Except, the mainstream press, they also cover the maddest elements of the story.
You can find tons of articles about that, but I wonder if Alex will also spend some time on the Trump absolutely lied about this virus publicly for political benefit thing.
Let's see.
I mean, I don't know.
Will he mention it?
jordan holmes
What's his take on it?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he does talk a bit more about Woodward's book.
alex jones
Woodward's book is a lot of lies and a lot of stuff that's true.
I know it's true.
I know it isn't because I've studied the whole thing.
dan friesen
Aha!
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So a lot of it's lies.
Almost all of it's lies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But then there's some truth.
And I will dictate to you what the truth is.
And then by, you know, matter of exclusion, by, you know, process of elimination.
You can tell that the things that I'm not talking about, those are lies.
jordan holmes
The thing I keep going back to, which is the big reason that Bob Woodward can go fuck himself forever and fuck him, is that those tapes could have come out in what, March?
I believe it's somewhere around there.
Dan, we were still in it's over for humanity mode in March.
If those tapes had come out, the right-wing propaganda narrative...
Would have had to go in a completely different direction.
It would have.
There's no other way.
So Bob Woodward essentially...
And it's not coming back.
There's no way that Bob is going to put this out.
Just like we just saw with Alec.
He doesn't put this out and then the right wing goes...
Whoops.
dan friesen
Right.
I'm not defending his decision, and I think I tend to agree with you that it's malpractice to have not put this out earlier, especially given the way that things have gone and the consequences that we've seen in the world.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
The only reason I have any pause here is I haven't heard a reason why he didn't.
And I wonder if there's some reason that I'm not considering.
jordan holmes
He's given a reason, and the Washington Post have both given reasons, and they are not good.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
His reasoning was, well, I needed to do more reporting on it and make sure that I got the whole story right.
dan friesen
That seems a little flimsy.
jordan holmes
It's very flimsy.
dan friesen
I don't know what goes into that sort of thing, though.
I mean, I'm not...
Again, I don't see that as a really great excuse.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
But it's also coming from me, someone who's not in that position.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So I don't know what legal issues there are.
But that being said, I feel like, you know, especially in a situation like this...
You could make an argument that there's a moral imperative that legal consequences be damned.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Without question.
It would have changed the right-wing propaganda narrative.
dan friesen
Which has been largely the driver of a large part of what has made this so difficult for our country to move past.
jordan holmes
They would have had to go in a complete opposite direction where it is over for humanity.
They would have had to keep going on that route.
I'm just blown away.
It's just fucked up.
And I mean, here's what it is.
He recorded Trump saying, I am letting people die for my personal benefit.
And he held on to that in order to sell books.
Meaning that Bob Woodward is letting people die for his personal benefit.
It is the same action.
And it's disgusting.
It really is.
dan friesen
Yeah, I find it difficult to not hear that as a pretty sensible point of view.
It's a pretty big bummer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a real big bummer.
dan friesen
So anyway, back to our issue here today with Alex.
The thing you need to know is that all of Bob Woodward's book isn't true.
jordan holmes
But the parts that are true.
dan friesen
Except for the part that Alex wants to be true.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
So all of Woodward's book is a lie.
We'll go over that, except for the fact that they were plotting a coup, which is totally illegal and criminal, but now they're lionizing it because they're preparing another one when Trump doesn't accept the fraudulent results when they try to steal the election.
dan friesen
Aha.
So, the only part of this that's true is the part that's useful to me, and everything else is all lies, so just ignore it.
We won't even really even talk about it.
jordan holmes
That's mean.
dan friesen
Also, no conversation about the fires in the West.
None.
None that I recall in these episodes.
jordan holmes
It's fucking a quarter of our country is on fire right now and no talking about it.
dan friesen
No, because there's bigger issues.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
In what is Mexico today, all the way down into Central and South America, by the collapse of the Mesoamerican society that happened right as Cortez arrived, they were already collapsed, the main source of meat was human flesh of children.
They had shops down at the bottom of the pyramids with hanging children.
jordan holmes
Shops?
alex jones
And people came and bought the meat.
People would routinely eat their own children after they were gutted.
They'd go buy an arm or a leg.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
alex jones
That's how they can get us to not care about human life.
That was going on everywhere.
dan friesen
That's not a sustainable system in any means.
jordan holmes
See, I was thinking...
dan friesen
Humans are not nearly as nutritious as maybe you'd like to imagine.
Also...
The giving birth for food thing?
jordan holmes
That's a real fucked up thing to do.
dan friesen
Well, it's also...
jordan holmes
Resource-wise.
dan friesen
Sure.
Especially at a time when maybe you don't survive childbirth.
unidentified
Considering how much you have to eat to bring the child to serve.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The amount of time it takes, the gestational period.
Yeah.
Yeah, it doesn't.
jordan holmes
No, that's a poor economy.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's no way you could have a main source of meat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Maybe you could for like a week.
dan friesen
But then it's all over.
jordan holmes
I think it would have to be like a 50-50 thing.
Everybody gets to eat one person and then it's over.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Until you've got one person, you know.
dan friesen
Very dumb.
jordan holmes
An eye for an eye leaves everybody.
dan friesen
People go down to the store and get an arm.
jordan holmes
See, I thought the way to make people okay with killing people was to dehumanize them and perhaps even say that they didn't have a soul and they have no correct connection to your creator.
dan friesen
That's what I thought.
No, that's Americana.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, I mean, this blew my mind.
I didn't realize that...
Did you know that there are parts of your body called life switches?
alex jones
But of course, the Bill Gates vaccines are linked to turning off a chromosome in the cells that is a life switch.
It throws a kill switch.
I just can't make this up.
Of course it's a kill switch.
He wants us to die.
He really wants you to take this.
He says it's going to make you really sick.
You're going to need a lot of these shots.
Then they're going to manage covering all that up.
It's all a big sick laboratory test.
But listen, with what's happening in the supply chain breakdown and all the craziness and China hoarding food and Europe and governments and elites digging into bunkers, you need to get your storable food one to two weeks for delivery now.
jordan holmes
Goddamn.
Goddamn.
They're going to turn your life switch off.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Gotta get some storable food.
dan friesen
He is banging on all cylinders.
jordan holmes
Goddamn.
dan friesen
Here's a little bit later.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But I'm just telling you, this is the big move.
The enemy is gonna try a coup.
They're gonna blow up power plants, set nukes off.
I don't know.
Anything.
Race riots, false flags.
We're in the season of war.
America is fighting for its life.
They're going to contest the election.
This is absolutely horrible.
The Justice Department's got a bunch of wimps in it.
They're not in control of anything.
And we are just sending ducks to authoritarians.
But I think God will help us.
The providence will make it out of this.
But it's up to you now.
But get your storable food and products now at InfoWarsStore.com while you still can.
dan friesen
Nailed it.
unidentified
They're going to blow up power plants, nuke cities.
jordan holmes
I've just read the Bible too many times to think that it's okay for you to be like, I think Jesus is going to get us through it, and you need to buy storable food.
You can't have those back-to-back.
You can't!
dan friesen
It doesn't seem good.
jordan holmes
Jesus was pretty against that idea.
dan friesen
So, Bob Woodward's book is obviously the main media cycle, and Alex's version of it is all about this thing about Mattis, and so, like, if I'm going to handle this story, I've got to call in my big guns.
alex jones
Roger Stone, what do you make of the coup plot against America?
I mean, even Zero Hedge gets it right.
Mattis wanted to overthrow the U.S. government.
I mean, that's what this is.
I know we were working on Roger's audio earlier.
Roger, can you hear me?
dan friesen
Don't say the N-word, don't say the N-word.
unidentified
Let's just go with phone.
alex jones
Let's go with phone like I originally wanted guys, okay?
unidentified
Let's just do that.
alex jones
Okay, well, Roger, can you hear me?
Yes, he didn't hang up.
He's on the line, guys.
He just doesn't have audio.
unidentified
I'm with you.
dan friesen
Hey, Roger.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was bad.
I was really praying he wouldn't say something really unsavory.
And so was Alex, I'm sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe it.
dan friesen
So, here's Roger's take on things.
unidentified
Now you have this latest laugh with Bob Woodward.
Why would Bob Woodward, why would anyone believe anything he says?
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't know.
dan friesen
Now, I'm here to not necessarily stand up for Bob Woodward.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But I am gonna say that maybe Roger Stone is not the best source to call whatever Woodward is being discussed.
I think there might be a conflict of interest there.
jordan holmes
Who would believe this guy?
dan friesen
Yeah, he's gotta...
You don't want to talk to a guy with a Nixon tattoo about whether Woodward...
jordan holmes
About Bob Woodward?
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
Why would anybody believe anything that Bob Woodward says?
dan friesen
It's like interviewing a guy about Upton Sinclair who has a tattoo of a dirty factory on his back or something.
jordan holmes
What do you think?
Ah, it's all lies!
It's all lies!
It's bullshit!
Come on, they're just trying to take down good men!
dan friesen
There's real comedy in the fact that Roger is like, yeah, alright.
jordan holmes
Of all people.
dan friesen
He's who Alex has.
Probably, you know.
jordan holmes
I don't know if there is a more partisan pro-Nixon person to talk to.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like, I just don't know.
dan friesen
Maybe a family member.
alex jones
I don't even know about that.
jordan holmes
He was a dick to his family.
He was a dick, period.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think Roger's about as good as you're gonna get.
And it does not come up, this weird conflict of interest about Watergate.
That's odd.
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Come on.
dan friesen
So, Roger yells about how Trump needs to seize all the ballots in Nevada.
jordan holmes
Sure!
unidentified
The ballots in Nevada on election night should be seized by federal marshals.
steve pieczenik
And taken from the state.
They are completely corrupted.
unidentified
No vote should be counted from the state of Nevada if that turns out to be the provable case.
We can prove voter fraud in the absentees right now.
dan friesen
So if this is proven, then we should seize all the ballots, and we can prove it now, so that means that Trump should go ahead and seize all the ballots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you might as well just seize them right now.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
Have they ever noticed that when they condemn, like, other countries for doing stuff that's anti-democratic, that they're saying that we should do that?
Anti-democratic stuff.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you can even take it less abstract than that.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Alex is about to get engaged in what could be a...
Very difficult election process.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And covering it and it might go to the courts.
The courts might get involved.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's doing that with the assistance and the expertise of...
Roger Stone, who was involved in the Brooks Brothers situation and the stopping of the recount in Florida in 2000 that led to and precipitated Bush being named president, which Alex thinks is an illegal carrying out of a stealing of an election that Roger Stone was directly involved in.
So now Alex, his guy, is not only coming on to talk about Woodward.
And not citing his biases.
jordan holmes
And how other people are stealing elections.
dan friesen
He's also going to be making rationalizations and probably engaging in similar behaviors as he did in the 2000 election.
And Alex, back then, would have said it was stealing elections.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And now it's just good stuff.
Now, here's the problem with Roger and Alex and all of this stuff.
It's how they're framing things.
And we've seen this with Alex.
Constantly.
And I think that Roger does it a little more clearly.
unidentified
I'd like to have an honest election in which the real winner takes office.
The real winner will not be Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
That's unimpeachable.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Unimpeachable logic.
dan friesen
I want a fair election where the rightful winner wins and the rightful winner cannot be Joe Biden in a fair election.
By definition, he cannot win a fair election.
Therefore, any election where Joe Biden wins is not a fair election.
Trump is the only possible winner.
Therefore...
jordan holmes
Of course.
Everyone knows that in every fair election there is a foregone winner and the election itself is pointless.
dan friesen
This is such a normal point.
On Alex's show at this point, that if you're listening to it, you've just probably absorbed it as fact.
There's no possible chance that Biden could win in any fair scenario.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
It's dangerous.
It's a fucked up thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Roger has to go.
And Alex needs another guest.
Needs another marquee guest.
And when it's time to talk about potential coups...
jordan holmes
We got one man.
dan friesen
That's right.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Steve Channick is in the mix.
Alex wants to talk about how dangerous it is that Mattis is trying to plan this coup.
And here's Steve's response.
steve pieczenik
An attempted coup is really not a very serious problem.
Ooh!
unidentified
Ooh!
Whiffed.
jordan holmes
I gotta give it up to Steve again!
I gotta give it up one more time!
The man takes big swings!
dan friesen
You really expected him to come in and be like, Alex, this is horrible.
We've gotta root everyone out.
Hey, try to have a coup.
unidentified
What are you gonna do?
Honestly, I think he's called for coups so many times now, he probably doesn't think it's that big of a deal.
jordan holmes
He calls for a coup every other week!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, he's...
unidentified
He's called for Melania to kick Trump out of office.
dan friesen
That's true.
Hey, no big deal.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, I've got some succeeded coups.
I've had some failed coups.
It's not that big a deal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Steve, what he believes is that the problem that we see here is that our military, it's just not going to work.
It just doesn't work.
jordan holmes
It just doesn't work.
dan friesen
Military.
It doesn't work.
jordan holmes
Oh, damn it.
steve pieczenik
What's happened is our military is not viable.
We got 2.2 million men in uniform.
There's no value to it.
Trump understands that Trump took us out of Syria.
He took us out of Iraq, Afghanistan.
Why did he do that?
For number one, he is very smart.
He knows we do not win the wars.
They're not effective.
We do not make money.
And the bottom line is that we have a far more serious problem in terms of the economy and in terms of getting our growth back in.
alex jones
I was about to say, for people that were actually there, they said Woodward and others are lying.
dan friesen
So now Woodward is lying about Mattis' attempted coup.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is confusing.
jordan holmes
This is unfortunate.
This is what happens when the truth is just so obvious.
That it's like, they can't admit that they were stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For any reason.
Or that Trump is an idiot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that talking to Woodward is fucking stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He shouldn't have done that.
jordan holmes
It's incredibly stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And so it has to be...
Even more outlandish.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
We can only accelerate.
That's what I'm saying with Woodward.
We can only accelerate from here.
What he did is meaningless now.
unidentified
He destroyed the meaning of his own work.
dan friesen
But, and I'm not disagreeing with you.
jordan holmes
I know, I'm sorry, I'm just angry about it.
dan friesen
I understand, and you have every right to be.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I would also say that maybe he wouldn't know that.
You know?
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
Maybe, in a more sensible time, this would have been completely destructive.
unidentified
This would have been a bombshell that would have, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
I mean, he probably thought it only took him forever to take down Nixon, too.
I don't know.
Fuck him.
I have no sympathy.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
So, Steve has to wrestle with this.
This question that is...
If this guy that we love is so smart, why would he do something so stupid as to talk to Woodward?
That's a great question.
Now, granted, we're not going to talk about what he said.
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't we?
dan friesen
But Steve is asking questions that really answer themselves.
steve pieczenik
Why would Trump allow Bob Woodward?
To have 18 interviews with him when Trump knew very well from Woodward's history that he's going to get a hit piece, it's going to be a disaster about him, and there's no upside.
Yet he spent a whole hours in the beginning at the White House, and then every night for 18 nights he would call Woodward.
Now, why would a man who's so smart do that?
dan friesen
Yeah, ask yourself that.
jordan holmes
Do you know what it is exactly?
dan friesen
Narcissism?
unidentified
Vanity?
jordan holmes
It's when a serial killer will go talk to the cops while they're investigating the crime he committed.
That's 100% what it is.
It is narcissism, look at how I can get away with everything.
It's totally that.
dan friesen
I mean, granted, we're making an assumption, but boy does it feel like that.
unidentified
It sure looks exactly like that.
dan friesen
So apparently, Steve, I mean, I should have known this.
Apparently him and Bob Woodward go way back.
jordan holmes
Of course!
steve pieczenik
I happen to know Woodward.
I thought he was a phony to begin with.
He and I started at a newspaper called the Montgomery County Sentinel.
He never had any journalism behind him.
He's a CIA operative.
I've known all about him for years.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
What did he just say?
dan friesen
He started together at the what?
Montgomery Journal Sentinel.
unidentified
Wait, wait.
jordan holmes
Steve Prochenek works for the Montgomery Journal Sentinel?
What?
What just happened here?
dan friesen
Steve's done everything.
jordan holmes
What just happened here?
dan friesen
Steve's done everything.
Who cares?
So, in this next clip...
jordan holmes
I knew a young Martin Luther King Jr. as he was growing up in Alabama.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah, he was deep throat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was.
dan friesen
So, now Steve gets to answering the question of, like, if Trump is so smart, why would he do this?
jordan holmes
Because he's not.
dan friesen
Well, I would say that Steve's describing a real asshole here and someone who I definitely don't want to be president.
alex jones
So why did Trump do it?
So he'd know what his enemies were up to?
steve pieczenik
That's one thing.
But Trump, like yourself and possibly like me, we like the game.
The game to us is far more important than anything anyone else can see.
Now, what do I mean?
jordan holmes
Good question.
steve pieczenik
Look how many books came out now about him negatively.
Mary Trump says that he's a terrible man.
His sister says he's worse than terrible.
Michael Cohen, his Jewish corrupt lawyer, says he's corrupt.
jordan holmes
What did that just do?
steve pieczenik
And then you have other books coming out that says that he's a disaster, John Bolton.
Why does he do that?
One word only.
It's called Trump.
You can knock it.
You can praise it.
He doesn't give a damn either way as long as you use the word T-R-U-M-P.
And every one of these people who goes negatively against him, including the stupid publishers, are doing nothing more than to help Trump self-aggrandize because he understood something a long time ago that you and I understood.
Every knock is a boost.
dan friesen
That's really, really bad for a leader to think that way.
Because think about it.
If you just allow that sort of reasoning to go to its logical extent, how much bad press would he get from nuking somebody?
Like, how much bad press would he get from doing terrible things?
Probably a ton.
Who cares if it's bad press?
They're talking about me.
That is a really, really...
Like, cancerous mentality for someone with actual power to have.
jordan holmes
Alex, do you know why he's doing this?
Because he's a narcissistic psychopath, Alex.
Come on!
dan friesen
It's something that you and I understand.
jordan holmes
That's what we want to do!
It's all about the game!
It's not about the hundreds of thousands of people that are dead that he personally killed.
dan friesen
We understand this because that's how we make money!
unidentified
It's the game!
It's the game!
jordan holmes
Look, you're in the game.
It's like Omar, alright, man?
It's like Omar.
alex jones
It's like P.V. Barnum said, just get my name right, and Trump understands that that gives him the name recognition, and then there's also so much disinfo that none of it matters, and the more he survives disinfo, the more he almost becomes invincible to anything they might have that's real.
steve pieczenik
You got it, and that's true of Alex Jones.
Whoa.
jordan holmes
You guys accidentally kind of got it right if you just remove dis.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that also...
Kind of is an admission that there is a lot of real stuff.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
That he's getting away with because of these presumptive fake things.
And that's not good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's unfortunately kind of stunningly insightful and yet at the same time wrong.
dan friesen
And I don't know why Alex would want Trump to be invincible.
I don't think...
jordan holmes
No, you want your elected leaders to have and face no consequences for their actions, Dan.
dan friesen
Even when there's real things that they're doing that are really bad.
jordan holmes
That's what you want!
dan friesen
Cool.
I will say a lot of this episode has to do with Alex saying that the Chinese government is hacking his website, and I don't care.
I don't care if he was actually having some kind of a DDoS attack or something.
It's possible, but I don't believe it was the Chinese government or anything.
No, I doubt that.
He spends a lot of time on it.
Of course he does.
And I just didn't...
jordan holmes
It was actually a scalar attack.
dan friesen
Could have been Steve.
Who knows?
Anyway...
Roger was on and he was saying that he wants a fair election and the only possible fair election result is Trump winning.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Now, Steve, his position is more...
jordan holmes
I don't want a fair election.
I want Trump to take over.
dan friesen
And I will commit crimes in order to make sure that happens.
steve pieczenik
Let me put this again.
I've said it a couple of years ago on your show that the Clintons would never come back.
And I said that there was a coup at the time.
Let me put it again.
If there's any attempt by the Democrats to come in, legally or illegally, I can assure you and your audience that's not going to happen.
I'm not going to pronounce what I have to say because I'll have the FBI right at my door as I had last time when I criticized Obama.
But the bottom line is that there are many ways to make sure that the Democrats don't come to power.
The legal way, and there are other ways.
Trump understands pretty much what has to be done.
dan friesen
Jesus.
That is like...
jordan holmes
I mean, okay, I guess that's fascism for you.
dan friesen
I mean, you're openly talking on this radio, supposedly news program.
unidentified
I think we should overthrow the country if I don't get what I want.
dan friesen
Right.
Roger Stone is creating a scenario wherein only Trump winning is a fair election.
Everything else is by definition not fair and a fraudulent election.
Steve's saying that we have illegal means that we're going to use to make sure the Democrats can't ever come into power.
He's like, alright guys, can you please just stop fucking pretending?
jordan holmes
Just say you're fascists and you want to make Trump king.
dan friesen
Fuck off.
Cut it out.
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Stop trying to...
And you're not even dancing around it at all!
dan friesen
No.
And it becomes so overt when Steve is on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's just a straight-up fascist.
dan friesen
Fuck due process!
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I don't give a shit!
jordan holmes
I don't even want a fair election if Trump loses, isn't it?
dan friesen
This country, America, is not about freedom, it's about business.
We are a business...
Like, okay, alright.
Alex, you should hate this guy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So I think the coronavirus, COVID-19...
And the challenges that we've all been faced with have taught us some lessons, I think.
jordan holmes
Some of us.
dan friesen
Personally, I think I've learned a lot about the different struggles that people go through.
The various things that you don't consider because maybe it's not exactly your experience of the world that other people have.
Like people who are immunocompromised or have other conditions that put them at higher risk.
The fear and the danger, the interactions that you might be comfortable with, to them is a completely different...
It expands my horizon and my awareness a little in ways that I definitely wish I was more aware of before, but I'm glad I know now.
Secondly, it's also made me more aware of how much opportunity there is to help people.
You know, there's a lot of things that you can do even if you feel like there's nothing you can do.
And I appreciate those things a great deal.
It's also taught me that maybe my lifestyle prior to it was a little bit isolated and confining.
And maybe once things open up a little more, I should make a greater effort to not live as if I was in quarantine.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Even when there's not a virus.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There is that.
dan friesen
So there's some lessons, you know?
And I would say Steve has a different lesson.
steve pieczenik
The reality is coronavirus hit on a very interesting dynamic.
And that was, do we need cities?
And do we need cities that were really, in effect...
alex jones
Obviously, the cities are obsolete and corrupt and a big problem.
dan friesen
Fuck cities!
I don't know what organizational system he's advocating.
jordan holmes
Feudalism?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Even then, a castle's still kind of a city.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what kind of functional organizational structure he's looking for.
jordan holmes
I sure as fuck don't want to find out.
dan friesen
Nope.
It's gonna be something weird.
jordan holmes
It's not gonna be good for me, personally.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You and I and everyone we've ever met will be fucked.
jordan holmes
Fucked.
Thoroughly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So Alex wants to talk to Steve about something really important, because this is September 10th, and the next day is 9-11.
alex jones
In the time we have left, we had a little bit of 9-11.
Dr. Pacinic, he's welcome back tomorrow.
We want you to get into 9-11.
It's important to talk about what happened there and what went on.
Now that we've moved on past that group, I don't talk about it a lot because I don't want to demoralize people, but we've covered it ad nauseum.
It's important to remember what happened so it doesn't happen again and to know that Trump called in the day after it happened and said, yeah, they had bombs in the buildings.
They blew it up.
I mean, he can see what happens.
He's a good guy at the end of the day.
We're blessed to have him.
He deserves a Nobel Peace Prize that would bring credit back to that prize.
It's become a joke.
dan friesen
Wow.
That went some directions.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, when Obama got the Peace Prize, it became a joke.
dan friesen
That's Alex's point.
I would say that we've dealt with the group that did...
I thought it was the globalists.
I thought everything was the globalists.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
We got the group.
dan friesen
Alright, fine.
Let's not explore that at all.
jordan holmes
Do not worry about those pages that were redacted.
Don't worry about that.
dan friesen
They do run out of time to talk about 9-11.
jordan holmes
Oh, do they?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It seemed like Alex was very specifically avoiding the fact that he still thinks Bush did it.
dan friesen
I don't...
jordan holmes
Or does he not still think Bush did it?
dan friesen
I don't know what he thinks, quite honestly.
That's fair.
Anymore.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, they run out of time, and they decide that they'll reconvene tomorrow on 9-11 to talk about...
9-11.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Are they going to talk about what Trump said about how tall his building was?
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
I don't think they will.
dan friesen
No.
Oh.
This made me laugh.
This was pretty funny.
Because Alex, much like at the beginning of Steve's interview, and he's trying to talk about Mattis and this coup, and Steve's like, fuck a coup, who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
No big deal.
dan friesen
Alex is really making a meal out of how scary China is, and how, oh no, China!
steve pieczenik
Let me put the China issue in context.
Number one, we've confronted China in the South China Sea.
I wrote about that years ago.
alex jones
Sure, you said it was coming in your book.
steve pieczenik
Right, in Pax Pacifica.
I'm not worried about China right now because China has a bigger problem in the United States, and that is Trump's personal friend Modi of India.
Because Modi of India will not tolerate Xi's...
Incursions into the Himalayas.
alex jones
We put them in check with Modi.
unidentified
That's right.
alex jones
Absolutely.
No, I agree.
Economically, we can defeat them.
jordan holmes
You guys installed Modi?
alex jones
What about the left's hatred of themselves and the country?
That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
I've got to move along to that.
I've got to pivot over to another conversation because Steve just kind of deflated all of your fears about China.
unidentified
A little bit.
dan friesen
Apparently, they're in checkmate because of Modi.
jordan holmes
See, here's the trick.
China's not worried about our fascist dictator.
They're worried about India's fascist dictator.
Done.
dan friesen
Yeah, so now Steve has diffused Alex's talking point about Mattis running a coup.
steve pieczenik
Sure.
dan friesen
Now he's also diffused Alex's, I mean...
jordan holmes
China's the most terrifying thing in the world thing.
dan friesen
I mean, that's Alex's almost entire reason to exist now.
jordan holmes
You don't even need to worry about it.
dan friesen
No, because Modi.
unidentified
Ah, man.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Mechanic.
Pachenik is a great one-off interview.
unidentified
You know what he is?
jordan holmes
Because everything that he says is reset at the...
He's like the sitcom where at the end of the sitcom we always get back to where we started.
dan friesen
He's the balloon popper.
Alex just brings him in and he's like, fuck your balloons.
Fuck your balloons.
I don't give a shit.
You spent a while inflating that thing?
Don't give a fuck!
And then he leaves and Alex is just back to normal.
You are right about the sitcom thing.
He just wrecks shop.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like C-Lab 2021.
Every episode, the C-Lab explodes at the end, and then the next one, you're just like, everything's fine.
Let's just move on.
dan friesen
And this last clip is another example of it.
Alex keeps talking about how they're gonna, like, you know, try and keep Trump out of office, and they're gonna have all these machinations.
He's like, what do we do, Steve?
alex jones
In the few minutes we have left, what do you predict their deuce ex or their ace in the hole could be?
A false flag?
I mean, I don't want to be overconfident.
What could this corrupt establishment do to make sure Trump doesn't get in?
steve pieczenik
They're not going to do anything.
dan friesen
What's their day of sex going to be?
Is it going to have a false flag?
What are they going to do?
Going to set off a nuke, blow up a power plant, throw Antifa at everybody?
jordan holmes
They're not going to do shit!
dan friesen
Balloon popped.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's very good.
dan friesen
So, I mean, as we come to the end of this stretch of time, like, I mean, we see this continuing of Alex.
I'm not going to take the bait, but Alex is talking about his financial troubles.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's consistent.
The aggressive ad pitches.
Totally.
jordan holmes
Blasphemous, even.
dan friesen
Certainly getting more and more of those.
And more entertaining versions that I appreciate.
jordan holmes
Turns out Stone doesn't like Bob Woodward.
dan friesen
What a shock.
jordan holmes
For some reason, he just doesn't like him.
He thinks he's a liar.
dan friesen
No real talk about some of the issues that are the most important to a lot of people, like the fires in the West Coast.
Right.
No real conversation about the tapes that Woodward released.
jordan holmes
Ooh, they're all lies.
You don't even need to talk about them, Dan.
Definitely don't play them.
Right.
dan friesen
So Alex then builds up his whole thing of his version of the Woodward story based on a Zero Hedge article.
Has Roger Stone come in and just say Woodward's an asshole?
And then Steve deflights all of his narratives.
Yeah.
It's just weird.
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
You know what?
It gets stuck in my craw, but it's deus ex.
unidentified
I know.
jordan holmes
Not deus ex.
I know.
It's just deus ex.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Anyways.
dan friesen
It's frustrating.
jordan holmes
Where were you?
dan friesen
I mean, we were texting earlier and I was telling you we might have to record a little bit late because I've got to get as current of an episode as possible.
I want to see what the Woodward fallout is.
And your text was, it's going to be disappointing.
And I was like, yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
And it is.
dan friesen
It is a little disappointing.
Except for the fact that...
You know, we got this Woodward story.
I'm calling in Roger and Steve.
It's like, alright.
unidentified
That's good.
jordan holmes
I do love a pachanic appearance.
I do.
He's the Carrie Cassidy of this show.
dan friesen
When he's grumpy, or when he's just like, oh, fuck yourself, then he's great.
But when he's a little sleepy or just not trying...
It's so boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and the inserted unnecessary racism is always an issue.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Points out, everybody who's Jewish.
jordan holmes
Jesus, man.
That's just too much.
That's just too much.
Calm it down.
Even for us on Infowars.
dan friesen
I feel like we probably should have maybe...
Discuss that.
But the reason that I don't generally is because we talk about it a bit.
jordan holmes
Steve does it all the time.
Every time he's on, it's a casual...
dan friesen
But I'm glad that you called it out.
jordan holmes
It's a tick.
It's like he can't stop himself from being the most racist person that you can think of.
dan friesen
Quite.
jordan holmes
It's awful.
dan friesen
So, to get this taste out of our mouth, let's take some calls.
jordan holmes
That sounds great.
unidentified
Hey, Dan.
Hey, Jordan.
This is Policy Monk Charlotte from Washington, D.C. And I wanted to float an idea past you guys.
I have a theory that this could...
Prove to add just a little bit more lighter fluid to the tire fire that is 2020.
But do we know anybody in Joe Biden's camp so that we can add a pillar to his platform, which would argue that, as president, he will force Twitter and Facebook to reinstate Alex Jones?
Something to think about.
Anyway, thanks, boys.
Really appreciate the podcast.
Y 'all take care.
dan friesen
I think that's a great idea.
jordan holmes
That's a heel turn.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, I would love to see this.
Here's why.
unidentified
Why?
dan friesen
Presidents don't have to follow through on their promises.
jordan holmes
That's 100% true.
In fact, I would argue most of them never do.
dan friesen
So Biden could fleece Alex by insisting that he was going to get him back on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Just to see if that would make Alex work.
jordan holmes
Would it work?
dan friesen
Yeah, I wonder.
jordan holmes
That would be a good question.
dan friesen
Yeah, I could see him softening a little bit.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Alex, maybe?
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We'll see.
jordan holmes
That's what you do to broaden up your base.
You know, you invite Alex back on Twitter.
dan friesen
You don't need to follow through with it.
You don't even have to have any intention of doing it.
jordan holmes
Just say that it's a big part of your plan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Hi, Dan and Jordan.
This is Matt in Washington.
I just wanted to call to say you've helped me process losing my parents to Trump, and it means a lot to me.
I'm also sure I'm not the only listener with this issue, so shout-out to everybody going through this.
My parents used to be run-of-the-mill conservative Christians, but 2016 opened them to the wide world of conspiracy theory, which completely pushed me away from them.
I found your show through Robert Evans, and both his shows and yours have helped me to understand what the hell my parents are caught up in.
At first I thought I could use your show to help them somehow, but I now appreciate that not many people let their kids change their minds.
The work you do is so, so important, though, and I hope we see more shows like yours in the future that deconstruct conspiracy narratives.
So thank you guys so much.
You are both awesome, and your ice cubes are very juicy.
dan friesen
I'm uncomfortable with how positive that call is and how complimentary it is, but I wanted to play it because there's a lot of people who are probably in similar situations.
jordan holmes
Fuck, I am.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And, you know, I wanted to extend our thoughts.
jordan holmes
Condolences, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, and people who are listening who might, you know, be able to empathize with what the caller was saying.
jordan holmes
We can all absolutely commiserate with, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're not alone out there, people.
So, next.
unidentified
Hi!
I wanted to say that I love the show.
Also, I just wanted to take a moment to say hello to Selene.
I hope that she's having a good time.
Thanks.
This is Gabby, by the way.
dan friesen
Hey, Gabby.
Not enough people giving Selene a shout-out.
jordan holmes
It was nice to hear that she was thinking of Selene.
dan friesen
That's great.
Now is as good a time as any for a Selene update.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good idea.
dan friesen
I have murdered my cat.
jordan holmes
You murdered her?
dan friesen
No, I didn't.
Oh.
She's on thin ice.
unidentified
That'd be a weird way to admit to it.
dan friesen
I've murdered her with love.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
Well, have I got a doozy for you?
dan friesen
No, I'm just a little bit, you know, as I've gotten more into this home gardening thing, it's tough to balance.
jordan holmes
Do you think you've been neglecting her a little bit?
dan friesen
No, I've been paying her a good amount of attention.
It's hard to balance having a cat in the home and also pots of plants around.
You have to find a way to make sure that...
Because if you look over there, my greens are stamped all over them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I see that now.
dan friesen
Basically, what I've had to do is I've had to try and find a way...
To most of the plants are here in the office.
And so basically I just can't have her in the office when I'm not in here.
And it's not a perfect system because obviously she can still, if I'm not paying attention, she can still get up there.
She ate two of my plants.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And a couple times I've just gone to the bathroom and I've come back and she's knocked over a...
Pot from the side.
And then just is looking at me like, what?
jordan holmes
She's a cat.
She's doing cat shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
It's not her fault.
I know she's not being malicious, but like...
jordan holmes
No, she is.
unidentified
That's cat shit.
jordan holmes
Cats are malicious.
dan friesen
You know, it's tough to balance, but from what I can tell, she's having fun doing it.
So, in terms of Gabby's question, if she's doing good and having fun...
jordan holmes
Yes, once again, cats have fun by torturing you.
unidentified
Hey, guys.
This is Scott in Austin, Texas.
And I heard your broadcast the other day about Alex Jones and his protest at Barton Springs where he claimed he had 200 people protesting.
I actually work in Barton Springs and got down to see the protest about an hour or so after it started.
Did not see 200 of his followers.
Maybe...
40 or 50. There were about 200 people at the Springs, but they were already there of their own volition.
But of course, you know, he likes to claim false numbers.
And also, happy ending.
Some citizen called the cops on them because they were harassing people with megaphones.
And shortly after that, it got really quiet.
Love the show.
Keep up the good work.
This is fake news.
Fake news.
I had nothing but a great time at Barton Springs.
dan friesen
We had a food truck.
Everything was great.
jordan holmes
Dan's right.
dan friesen
Alright, well, I appreciate the first-hand report there from Barton Springs.
jordan holmes
Of course he added other people who were just hanging out.
dan friesen
Into the totals.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, I'm sure that it was a globalist who said that Alex was harassing, because you can't harass somebody with a little baby bullhorn.
jordan holmes
You cannot.
It's against the reality.
It's not possible.
dan friesen
Also, I have been trying to use tyranny slapper to annoy Celine, and it has not been working.
She is unfazed by the baby bullhorn.
jordan holmes
Of course she is.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Even she finds it hilarious.
unidentified
Globalist Amy here.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
unidentified
Seeing a new episode drop is also in one of my bright spots of the day, so I really appreciate and thank you so much for keeping me laughing and all of us laughing during these super, super shit times.
I also really wanted to add my voice to the Australian contingent and say it's pronounced Quokka.
But what I really wanted to ask is I'm getting my cat Pluto, a new kitty friend.
We're adopting a new cat.
And I would really love your suggestions on what their name should be.
Thank you so much again.
Stay safe.
And again, Quarka.
Thanks, guys.
Bye.
dan friesen
I'm at war with Australia.
unidentified
Quokka.
jordan holmes
It's just over for us.
We've just lost.
We've just lost.
dan friesen
Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize because on our last episode, I believe, I referred to Australia as an island.
And I don't think that they're going...
jordan holmes
Technically!
dan friesen
If we're getting this kind of blowback for Quokka, I don't think anyone's going to take kindly to that.
So, before we get a flood of Australian calls, I apologize for...
jordan holmes
It's like Pluto.
Australia's been downgraded from continent to island.
dan friesen
I'm wholehearted in my apology.
I don't know.
That's fun.
Cat name.
I mean, obviously.
jordan holmes
Duncan Idaho, my friend.
Dune's coming.
dan friesen
You got the Dune trailer.
jordan holmes
Dune's around the corner.
dan friesen
All right.
Duncan Idaho.
jordan holmes
Duncan Idaho.
dan friesen
I would say Daryl Rundis.
jordan holmes
Daryl Rundis is a good one, too.
dan friesen
It's not a good cat name.
unidentified
It's not a good cat name, but you can live with it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
I was trying to think of funny Infowars names.
Daryl Rundis.
jordan holmes
Daryl Rundis is gonna stick with...
I can see Leo Katgami.
dan friesen
Leo Katgami?
jordan holmes
Leo Katgami.
No, that doesn't work.
dan friesen
No, that's not...
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you can just call it Leo.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
True.
jordan holmes
Who else?
unidentified
Ooh!
jordan holmes
Just go with feline Contessa.
That's not a name.
Contessa.
unidentified
Cat...
jordan holmes
Tessa?
I don't know why I'm doing portmanteaus with cat in the name.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't either.
jordan holmes
Like, you're not gonna name your cat cat something.
dan friesen
No.
Rob Mew?
That doesn't work.
No, that's a bad pun.
If I got another cat, I might name it...
jordan holmes
Rob Mew?
dan friesen
I might name it Buckley.
jordan holmes
That's actually a pretty good cat name.
dan friesen
Yeah, Buckley's a pretty fun name.
jordan holmes
Buckley is a fun name!
I like a good Buckley.
I don't like a bad Buckley.
dan friesen
I don't know if I have any good ideas, but I wish you the best in your new pet friend adventure.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
And the naming thereof.
unidentified
Hey, is this the cat, guys?
Dan Jordan, huge fan.
Uli down here in Springfield, Missouri.
Just wanted to say thank you so much for calling out Springfield.
I'm a transplant.
There are good people, even in these weird bastions of conservative ethics, we could call it.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for the show that you do.
I have lagged severely on my own podcast because I'm too busy catching all of your episodes.
And if you ever come down to Springfield, Missouri...
You know you got a place to have some beers at our brewery, 4x4 Brewing, and we'll catch you later.
Thanks a lot, guys.
You're awesome.
dan friesen
Shout out to these shit-on cities in the all over, all the places that people look down on.
Yeah.
Shout out.
And shout out to 4x4 Brewing.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Not sponsored, but give them a look.
It's a wonk brewery.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm definitely going to a wonk brewery if I'm in Springfield.
dan friesen
When are you ever going to be in Springfield?
jordan holmes
Ah, you never know.
dan friesen
I was in Springfield.
jordan holmes
Maybe we'll have to escape from cities because they're obsolete now.
dan friesen
Well, Springfield's still a city.
Not a Chicago city.
jordan holmes
It's a township, right?
dan friesen
Come on now.
I was in Springfield maybe five years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think, probably.
How was it?
It was fun.
I went to do a show with friends, Dan Sheehan.
And Tyler Snodgrass.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Great guys.
dan friesen
Yeah, I went down to...
I don't remember the name of the place.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yakov showed up.
jordan holmes
Yakov showed up?
dan friesen
Yeah, Yakov.
jordan holmes
You got a little Yakov?
dan friesen
He and Tyler Snodgrass are friends.
And so Yakov Smirnoff showed up.
And I did not say hi to him.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on!
In our country, we say hi to you, Dan.
dan friesen
I told this story before, I think, but he was being bum-rushed by tons of people who were wanting an autograph and stuff, and I just felt like it would be shitty.
But I gave him a look from across the room, and I think he got it.
jordan holmes
A little pregnant hello look.
unidentified
Hey, guys.
I just have so much stuff I've got to get to that I don't know if I can cover it all on this phone call, so I'm not going to get to any of it.
But I did want to say, Jordan, that you had mentioned recording an audiobook for your book, The Quiet Part Loud.
And I was going to say I really appreciate the audio format.
Thank you.
dan friesen
People appreciate the audio format.
jordan holmes
I'm working on it.
I'm working on it.
dan friesen
It's a process.
jordan holmes
It is very hard.
It's very hard.
There are a lot of choices that I didn't realize that I was going to have to make because of the way I write dialogue and how it's impossible to kind of keep track of.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's hard.
jordan holmes
It is hard.
It's very hard.
But I'm working on it.
It's happening.
It will happen.
unidentified
That's good.
jordan holmes
It will.
I promise you.
dan friesen
That's good for the people to know.
And for now, they can find your book at quietpartloud.com.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
So, a nice little plug in there.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
unidentified
Hi, Dan and Jordan.
This is Bob Hartzell from St. Louis.
I sent you some posters a couple months ago.
First off, I want to say, do not accidentally dial 1-800 for TAT guys.
That is not the right number.
And number two, Dan, you mentioned your brother and the art he does and how proud you are of him, and that reminded me that my brother, who was always an engineer when we were kids, has gone on to make a clinical strip called Middle Age Riot.
Instagram and Facebook, and I think you would really enjoy it.
I'm really proud of the work he's done on that.
I also wanted to thank you for the shout-out earlier in the summer.
It's been a rough summer, and that really helped make it.
Keep up the good work.
Talk to you later.
dan friesen
Thank you, Bob.
unidentified
Thanks, Bob.
dan friesen
If you notice, look around.
We've got a couple of the prints up on the wall here in the studio.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Pretty cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, very good.
dan friesen
I went and checked out this middle-aged riot.
Some fun jokes there.
jordan holmes
Good jokes.
dan friesen
I didn't have time to look through a whole ton of it.
Sure.
Yeah, it looks really awesome.
I'll check it out.
Everybody's getting free rides today.
unidentified
It does seem like we're not sponsored, but it seems like we're doing a lot of sponsored content.
dan friesen
I don't actually mind that so much, the idea that people call in and say some cool project.
Or something that maybe people could take a look at.
jordan holmes
If you call in and say that you're really happy with your bank and you really love Chase Bank, then you're not going to get on the show.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably not.
jordan holmes
Not going to happen.
dan friesen
I mean, eventually we will have to figure out a line in terms of that, but I think we're on the right side of it for now.
So far, yeah.
Well, thank you all for the calls.
Thank you all for listening.
We will be back.
Next time.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
Yep.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to betjordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area and help out people doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I am a guy jumping out of a helicopter at Lake Travis.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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