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Sept. 11, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
01:47:05
#480: September 9-10, 2020

Jordan Holmes and Dan Friesen dissect Alex Jones’ September 9–10, 2020 broadcasts, mocking his COVID-19 denial (Sweden’s 50-person gathering bans), election fraud claims (Zuckerberg’s alleged power grab, Georgia’s absentee ballot confusion), and hyperbolic dollar collapse warnings. Woodward’s tapes on Trump downplaying airborne COVID-19 are dismissed as "mostly lies" by Jones’ guests—Roger Stone and Steve Pieczenik—who instead push fringe theories like a CIA coup or 9/11 foreknowledge, undermining credibility. Jones’ financial struggles and trivial helicopter antics (Lake Travis rally) highlight his pattern of sensationalism over substance, revealing a media ecosystem built on conspiracy rather than fact. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 14:11
d
dan friesen
50:33
j
jordan holmes
25:54
Appearances
s
steve pieczenik
03:53
t
tommy shane steiner
01:05
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys and Shang me are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge and fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Reddler, Reddit, Red Alert.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy and Kansas.
unidentified
Andy and Pandy.
alex jones
Stop.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy.
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the airplane.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fixed tin color.
I'm like here saying I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
jordan holmes
Hey, everybody.
dan friesen
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
Hey, everybody.
I just talked through the bullhorn.
alex jones
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
That bit almost fucking killed.
It almost worked.
You really almost had it.
dan friesen
I bungled it.
jordan holmes
You fucking bailed.
You could have survived it if you'd have just kept it going.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm Jordan.
alex jones
Wonderful, dude.
unidentified
Like to sit around, drink knowledge of beverages and talk and talk a little bit.
jordan holmes
I just, yeah.
It's tough.
It's tougher than you think.
dan friesen
It's hard to talk through a bit.
unidentified
That's why.
jordan holmes
I think the problem is it's very small.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't quite know where to put your mouth.
It's also hard to hear through the headphones.
All right, bullhorn segment over.
This podcast where I like to sit around, drink knowledge of beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex.
jordan holmes
Indeed it is, Dan.
dan friesen
And how good he is at using a tiny bullhorn, apparently.
unidentified
He's better than you.
dan friesen
We have just, in real time, proven his worth.
jordan holmes
He's got a talent for bullhorns.
dan friesen
I hate that we said.
jordan holmes
No one's ever said no.
dan friesen
I hate that we set out to make fun of him.
And in the end, all we have done is demonstrate his value and what he brings to the marketplace.
jordan holmes
You know, it is interesting.
It's a niche.
It is a niche.
dan friesen
Quite.
jordan holmes
Not many people fill that niche of being master bullhorners.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Hey, everybody's got to go.
unidentified
Got to give it up to Alex when he's got a scale.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Dan!
Jordan.
Quick question.
dan friesen
Real loud that time.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sorry about that.
Okay.
I was trying to talk through the bullhorn.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I'm just loud.
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Well, Jordan, I mean, it's a lot of plant stuff in my life these days.
Indeed.
I would say that my plant-related bright spot, plant-watching segment here, is that so I've got a number of things going in various stages of pretty good progress.
Sure.
Not broccoli.
The cucumbers.
Cucumbers are killing it.
And the peppercinis are, in particular, doing quite well.
unidentified
Indeed.
dan friesen
But the thing that I'm really, really liking right now that I'm feeling just so great about is the fact that I finally got some quinoa to grow into viable little plants.
I had killed at least three rounds of trying to grow seedlings of quinoa up there.
I'm still not 100% sure what I did wrong with those other times, but this time I've got three plants that are pretty well established up there.
jordan holmes
It's not always about you.
Maybe the quinoa just didn't want to be here.
dan friesen
It could have been.
It could have been.
jordan holmes
You got to make everything about you all the time.
It doesn't have to be about you.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, sure, fine.
Maybe the seeds were predestined to not work out or something.
jordan holmes
They had no interest in you.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's a big relief.
I thought I was just sort of destined to keep doing it over and over again.
God, what am I doing wrong?
And then this round, it's just, it's nice.
It feels like progress.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very nice.
It's very nice.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
My bright spot was: I had the opportunity to tell my partner about the St. Crispin's Day speech.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
She had never heard it before.
She didn't know anything about it.
So I was trying to get her inspired to go to work and make it through the day.
So I start going into the St. Crispin's Day speech and she's blown away.
And I'm like, listen, the St. Crispin's Day speech is the only speech that will make you run through a fucking brick wall, even though you don't understand a word of what's being said.
It's incredible.
It is the original fucking clear eyes full hearts can't lose of fucking drama.
And I played her the Lawrence Olivier bit, and she lost her mind.
She was like, I don't even like this, but I want to run through a brick wall.
dan friesen
That's how I feel about Dusty Rhodes, Hardtime Pro.
jordan holmes
See, now there you go.
Yeah.
And that wouldn't exist if it weren't for the St. Crispin's Day speech, Dan.
dan friesen
I would say it's the other way around.
Time travel Randy Kramer.
jordan holmes
It also gave me a chance to talk about my favorite conspiracy theory.
Which we've been asked before: are there any conspiracy theories you believe, or what's your favorite conspiracy theory?
And I've always left this one out because I forget about it.
But my favorite conspiracy theory is the Shakespeare is a woman conspiracy theory.
Sure.
He absolutely is not.
It's a him.
Everybody knows it's 100% true, it's him.
But that's my favorite one to entertain.
I'm like, how many people have to lie?
And was she secretly a princess?
unidentified
And she was writing like that and they couldn't put her name out.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
But what about the theory that Shakespeare was a bunch of different people?
jordan holmes
That one's also bullshit.
dan friesen
Are you sure?
jordan holmes
Yeah, Shakespeare is actually Shakespeare.
dan friesen
It wasn't Marlowe.
jordan holmes
No, it wasn't Christopher Marlowe.
It wasn't what's his dumb fuck, Francis Bacon.
It wasn't none of these guys.
dan friesen
Was he a spy?
jordan holmes
Shakespeare was not a spy.
dan friesen
Was he in love?
jordan holmes
He was in love.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Well, that is a fine conspiracy.
jordan holmes
He had a very difficult marriage, though.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
That is true.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
A difficult dog.
dan friesen
I thought that historical Shakespeare was a much more open question, but then again, I will grant I have never looked into it.
jordan holmes
Maybe one of the most studied individuals in the history of all of literature.
And you think people would just let that be an open question?
dan friesen
I thought that there just wasn't a lot of primary sourcing on it.
jordan holmes
Wow, tons.
dan friesen
All right.
This goes to show how you can just sort of have a vague notion of something if you don't look into it.
jordan holmes
You're just like, ah, that sounds probably true.
dan friesen
So speaking of conspiracies, we were a little bit of assholes on this one.
We forgot to mention and thank the Cults, Cryptids, and Conspiracies podcast.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit, we forgot.
dan friesen
Thank you for having us on as a guest.
Last week, we were on their old podcast.
jordan holmes
It was a wonderful time.
They were delightful.
dan friesen
Yeah, I want to thank Chelsea and Christina for having us on there.
It was a lot of fun to talk to them about Alex.
And I, as always, feel very self-conscious that I just rambled about various Alex-related nonsenses.
jordan holmes
See, I never feel self-conscious because I am who I am.
Scream and annoy people.
That's it.
That's what I got.
dan friesen
So if you all want to enjoy that, check them out.
You can find them at C3Podcast, and that takes you to links.
All you need to find them.
So thanks again for having us on.
Yes, thank you very much.
jordan holmes
We enjoyed it immensely.
dan friesen
Yeah, for sure.
And we're bad at any kind of engagement on social media or knowing when things happen.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
Nope.
And messages.
You guys promote answers.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
Do we never share links about our own show?
dan friesen
I'm the worst.
jordan holmes
We're bad at this.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about the period of September 9th and 10th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
Oh, God damn it.
dan friesen
I had sort of planned to do a little bit of a more longer scale or like the beginning of the week, but everything just kept happening.
And like Bob Woodward came out of the woodwork.
We both put our fingers up.
jordan holmes
Pointing at each other to see who's going to break first.
Who's going to do it?
dan friesen
Who's going to attack?
jordan holmes
Who's going to go wrong?
dan friesen
It's just too much.
I was like, okay, we got to look as close to present as possible.
jordan holmes
Got to be focused.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So we're going to take a look at this and see how Alex is dealing with the fires on the West Coast.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
We're going to learn about Trump's tapes coming out.
jordan holmes
P-tape.
dan friesen
Not the P-tape.
So, yeah, we'll get down to business on that.
But before we do, you got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, Benjamin B., thank you so much.
You're an outpolicy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Benjamin.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Alex T. Thank you so much.
You're an Al Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Alex.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Mel M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Mel.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Rory Kay.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Rory.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Cheryl, thank you so much.
You are an Al Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Cheryl.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, some guy.
Oh, one word.
Thank you so much.
You're an Al Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
What if it's Summagi?
dan friesen
Oh, it could be.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Samagi.
dan friesen
I didn't take that into consideration.
I apologize.
Next, Atticus M. Thank you so much.
You're an Al Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Atticus.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So Nate Kay, thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, Mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a burden.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We got to go full-tailed buggy on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Nate.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoy this show.
I'd like to support with these gents, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefright.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
jordan holmes
Indeed, you can.
Or you could spend years working on a relative play.
Think about who's involved there.
Think about all the characters necessary.
Take all of that creative energy, turn it into generosity, give it to the world, or more specifically, a local bear fund or charity, Dan.
That's what I'm doing.
dan friesen
A bear fund.
jordan holmes
Bear fund.
unidentified
God damn it.
jordan holmes
This is what happens when we record this.
dan friesen
We may need a bear fund.
jordan holmes
I would like a bear fund.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, Jordan, we're going to start things off here on the 9th.
And it's interesting.
Alex is talking about red state, blue state issues.
And he reveals what he means when he says red states.
And what he means when he says blue state.
It's very interesting.
It's not Democrat and Republican, or kind of is, but also means something else entirely.
alex jones
It's being rolled out in blue cities and blue states.
And I use that term nationwide and worldwide now because they don't call it red-blue.
Whether you're pro-human, you're red.
You're anti-human, you know, you're blue.
I guess blue-blood globalist gamelon, whatever you want to call it.
dan friesen
So Alex has taken the red and blue of the Democrat and Republican and used it to extend to.
jordan holmes
Worldwide.
dan friesen
Yes.
Pro-human is red.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Anti-human blue blood is blue.
jordan holmes
Okay, are there regions within other, like, how about Chile?
unidentified
Is all of Chile like a blue state?
dan friesen
I don't know.
red state are there smaller does he think every country has states i I don't think Alex could really break down state by state or nation by nation.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He could tell you that Brazil is red.
Wow.
He could tell you that much.
jordan holmes
I think Brazil is purple right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's strange because those terms already mean something.
He's just.
jordan holmes
I would like him to have that wacko video from the Animaniacs where he's singing the country song.
I would like Alex right next to that juxtapose with just red, blue, blue, red, blue, blue, blue, blah, blue.
dan friesen
Everyone hates humans.
So he's talking there about rolling out of all this stuff.
Of course, it's about COVID-19 and the public health measures that are actually secretly about taking over the world.
Sure.
And it turns out that, like him, and we responded one way, some other countries did something different.
And this is just nonsense.
alex jones
Meanwhile, in Sweden, they did absolutely nothing.
And now they're saying, actually, COVID didn't exist.
And we have record-low deaths from pneumonia.
Just doesn't exist, basically.
dan friesen
That smug tone right there at the end doesn't exist, basically.
Sure.
I can't even do an impression of it, but that tone there, that condescending fuck tone.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hate that so much.
jordan holmes
Basically.
dan friesen
Basically.
It basically is all bullshit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's very annoying.
dan friesen
Undeserved.
jordan holmes
Especially for somebody who is 100% wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
To be treated so condescendingly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, oh, basically, there's no germ theory.
Yeah, idiot.
dan friesen
So this is a common right-wing media lie saying that Sweden didn't do anything to mitigate damage done by the coronavirus, and they got along just fine.
It's essentially an argument against our public health measures using an imaginary version of what a completely different country did as support.
The first important point is that Sweden did not do nothing.
For instance, they banned gatherings of more than 50 people.
They put restrictions on visits to care homes and they restricted bar service at restaurants.
But many have said that this approach was not nearly enough.
And some of the stats really bear that out.
A July article in the BBC points out that over 5,500 people had died from COVID-19 in Sweden, which gave it, quote, one of the highest death rates relative to population size in Europe.
A CBS News article from July points out that the death rate in Sweden is 30% higher than in the United States when the data is adjusted for population size.
jordan holmes
They didn't do anything and it worked out fine.
dan friesen
The strategy that Sweden used would be wrong to call a total success, given that tons of people died.
And there's no evidence that the ultimate goal has been achieved.
The presumptive goals were to reach herd immunity, which has not been done, and to protect the economy, which also has not necessarily happened as one might have designed it to.
jordan holmes
It's crazy how bad ideas that go against the ideas of people who have studied this their entire lives don't work out.
It's like it happens every time, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, but one factor that's made the situation there in Sweden not nearly as bad as it could be is that the population, by and large, is willing to voluntarily accept protective measures.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, if individuals there had acted like Alex and his anti-mask weirdo friends, there's a pretty good chance that could be a complete nightmare.
jordan holmes
Nobody stormed the state house with guns, being like, no, we'll never wear masks.
That didn't happen in Sweden, I assume, right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Are they a blue state or a red state?
dan friesen
Probably blue.
Okay.
According to Alex.
Okay.
So, yeah, he has this notion that Sweden did nothing, and it's all just.
alex jones
What?
dan friesen
What are you saying?
jordan holmes
It's easy to lie about things.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talking about his fears and his paranoias about the coming election.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I'll tell you this: Mark Zuckerberg may or may not become president.
No, he's in charge of telling us what's going to happen, apparently, or something.
But we do find out who's going to become president.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And Zuckerberg says that it'll be days or even weeks.
And once you accept weeks of a delayed election, it'll be months.
And on January 20th, if the president and vice president have not been seated with the electors, then guess who becomes the president?
The 46th president?
unidentified
Nancy, the crookkeeper, Paulosi.
alex jones
And then if she steps down, do you know who comes next?
unidentified
Hillary.
jordan holmes
Come on.
alex jones
Michelle?
So.
dan friesen
He doesn't say.
jordan holmes
Doesn't say what you mean.
dan friesen
He just makes those noises.
jordan holmes
You can't just make those noises.
dan friesen
Apparently, you can.
So Pelosi would only become president based on her currently being the Speaker of the House, but there's no guarantee that she will still be Speaker of the House after the November election.
She has a general election against Shaheed Buttar on November 3rd.
And although she has a good chance of winning that, there is a chance that she won't be in office to become president in the scenario Alex is imagining.
If Pelosi lost, it's not like Batar would just automatically become the Speaker, though.
jordan holmes
No, you dethrone the person.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
If you kill the king, you become the king.
dan friesen
That's how it works.
It's not like whoever's in California's 12th district just gets to be speaker.
jordan holmes
That'd be a weird rule.
dan friesen
Yeah, there would be another Democrat representative who would be chosen to be speaker, but that's also uncertain.
The Democrats have a fair majority in the House, but that's not promised.
And though it's unlikely, the GOP could win back the House, and then they'd get to choose the Speaker, and we'd fuck around and end up with President Jim Jordan or President Matt Gates.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it'd be, yeah, yeah.
No, I don't know.
There's two choices, and it's all nightmares.
dan friesen
Alex is painting a scenario to imply that Pelosi would choose Hillary as her VP, then step down and make Hillary president.
This is just about the most unlikely turn of events imaginable, but it really gets under the audience's skin.
So this is what he always chooses to portray as the globalists' evil plan because it works.
Pisses off the audience.
jordan holmes
Damn it, I would revolt if Hillary became president.
If Nancy Pelosi was like, ha ha, surprise, it's Hillary.
Like, that's a huge fuck off.
I'm done.
unidentified
I'm out.
dan friesen
Nah, no, no, no.
That would be late WCW wrestling picking.
jordan holmes
Totally.
That would be.
dan friesen
That would be.
jordan holmes
Hillary comes in with a fucking chair and hits Nestle Pelosi in the head.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm the president now.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would be a little much in terms of convoluted.
Like, we've lost the thread.
Yeah, you're going to get it.
It's Russo-ass booking.
jordan holmes
We've got to stop.
dan friesen
Guys, so yeah, I don't know how this one's going to fly.
So Alex is, you know, he's dancing around, hitting some news stories, skimming some headlines as he does.
This is what Alex calls like covering the news.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Governor Noam rejects report that Sturgis Rally led to hundreds of thousands of COVID cases is fiction.
Yes, it is.
Trump campaign crowd appeared to violate North Carolina mask order.
Good.
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's great.
Coverage of the news.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Reads a headline.
He's like, you bet.
jordan holmes
Noam says it's bullshit.
alex jones
Damn right.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
jordan holmes
They didn't wear masks.
Better believe it.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
jordan holmes
Next story.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to pull up Politico here, and I'm going to cover the news.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Here we go.
jordan holmes
Let's see what you got.
What's your news?
dan friesen
Okay.
You know, we had some deep analysis here.
Okay.
Federal judge blocks Trump census order on undocumented immigrants.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
We shouldn't have done that.
Oh, Nelly.
jordan holmes
All right, next story.
dan friesen
Ukraine gas company to add Rick Perry to its board.
jordan holmes
A wooga.
Wait, what?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That sounds wrong.
dan friesen
Just cold reading headlines.
jordan holmes
Just cold reading that headline made me frustrated.
dan friesen
White House moves to curb policing of corporate misbehavior.
jordan holmes
That's right.
That's what they did.
All right.
Did we do it?
dan friesen
I don't know if anybody has any better understanding of those stories or anything now.
I feel like we just wasted a couple minutes.
jordan holmes
Nah, we did great.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
You wouldn't have known about Rick Perry being invited to join a Ukraine oil company.
I still don't.
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Did that actually happen?
I don't think you can tell that from the headlines.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Look, that was as informative as any news roundup on Alex's show, and I don't even know what those stories were.
That's fair.
There's a lot of indications of Alex leaning in on this episode toward kind of intense, violent talk, you know.
Sure.
But it's all just about how, you know, he constantly has this, like, you'll know when the time is right.
Right.
You'll know.
Everything will be, you know, they're trying to go hot.
All this stuff.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And like, you listen to a clip like this, and you're like, you can't be saying it's some eventual time.
Like, this has to be when the time is.
alex jones
I'm going to get into the pre-planning for the martial law, destabilization, collapse of the stock market, race war, the execution of the beta test.
Then the white papers saying they were going to go operational three months ago.
Now they're going operational, and we're now in the operation.
It's now been launched.
And it's official, and they're doing it.
Just like they loaded up a train full of TNT and started it towards a town, and it's going to just blow up when it hits the town.
I mean, it's coming down the tracks.
It's only going 100 miles an hour and it's coming right at us.
Wow.
dan friesen
Wow, indeed.
jordan holmes
Okay, so you'll know when the time is right.
dan friesen
There's a train coming to your town with TNT 100 miles an hour.
The plan is operational.
jordan holmes
Sure.
So, like, later then?
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So, how many trains do you have to get hit by before it's time?
dan friesen
Well, I know that Alex isn't big on the whole notion of absorbing the first hit in terms of nuclear warfare and such.
Yeah, I don't know when you're talking metaphorical trains.
But you understand, like, the point that I'm making isn't so much that Alex is directly saying you got to go shoot people or anything like that, but the disjointed nature of this rhetoric, the almost self-contradictory hold off.
Oh, wait, there's a train full of TNT coming to your town.
jordan holmes
The plan is operational right now.
dan friesen
Like, it leaves the audience in a state of complete like, if you listened to this and you thought Alex was telling you it's time to go kill some people, you would be justified.
Like, you could make a pretty solid argument from Alex's words that that was the message he was trying to drive to.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
If on Monday you say, these are the conditions that we know, and when these conditions happen, you have to go kill people, and then you stop there and say, you'll know when it's time.
And then on Tuesday, you say, the operation has started.
They're coming to kill us.
dan friesen
With a train full of TNT 100 miles an hour.
jordan holmes
It's like a two-day-old split infinitive.
You're still saying now is the time just because you're waiting a day in between.
It doesn't count.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's really, really bad to do that to the audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, I mean, I think probably one of the biggest stories of the week, the last week and a half, 10 days, Joe Rogan went to Spotify, my man.
jordan holmes
Yes, I've heard that was the biggest story that I've read so far this year.
dan friesen
And when he went, certain episodes were not included in the jump to Spotify.
jordan holmes
Oh, did they get rid of all those Duncan Trussell ones?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
A lot of people didn't like those.
He gets a little out there.
dan friesen
Duncan's hippie ass.
His hippie ass is still there.
jordan holmes
He's still there.
dan friesen
Okay.
And that's great.
Alex, out.
Milo, out.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Sargon of Akkad, out.
Who could have guessed?
Dave Seaman, out.
Yeah, so, I mean, like, you know, a lot of people made a big deal out of this.
So they're like, yeah.
But, I mean, it kind of makes total sense.
And if you're Joe Rogan and Spotify's like, I'll give you $100 million.
You just got to take down these assholes episodes.
Fuck yes.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't care.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, wait.
Oh, no.
I can't have Alex Jones episode.
I've got to take those off the Spotify archive.
Oh, please censor me for $100 million.
I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
All right.
There are things that if they were trying to censor you, I would hope that no matter what level of money you receive, you would fight back and fight against it.
If they're censoring your Alex Jones episode, you're like, I like $100 million.
Fuck Alex.
Alex is a piece of shit.
He said he was going to gut me.
I'm going to get his shit off of here.
dan friesen
Well, that was when he was being a sneaky snake.
Joe was being a sneaky snake and he was working for the globalists.
jordan holmes
Don't blame the gut-y here.
Don't blame the gut earth.
dan friesen
Sneaky snake working for the globalists.
You know it.
That's fair.
He knew it.
jordan holmes
He did know it.
dan friesen
Alex started talking about Rogan's kids on the podcast.
That was gross.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's really fucked up.
dan friesen
So, anyway, it's very clear to the external observer that what's going on is that Joe got a really, really good deal.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That he doesn't have to worry about sponsorships.
He doesn't have to worry about any of that shit.
Never.
Guaranteed money for the rest of his career.
Totally.
Take that money and fucking talk to your weirdo comedy friends.
unidentified
Bye.
jordan holmes
Bye, Alex.
Bye forever.
Oh, sorry.
dan friesen
But it turns out he, because he is in Austin also, and he's probably going to run into Alex at the Lubies or wherever.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure.
Not anymore, Dan.
dan friesen
Well, that's true.
Lubies is shuttering its doors.
We'll miss you, Lubies.
jordan holmes
Bye, Lubies.
Those old ladies are never going to eat for free again.
Nope.
dan friesen
Alex will not be able to pay for sad people's meals in the future.
But I think he knows that he can't not talk to Alex ever.
Sure.
So he's given Alex a line of bullshit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I told you that Joe was debating which 100 episodes he was going to keep on YouTube under their deal, which he was going to put on Spotify because they can't be both places.
Well, I got word yesterday, I guess Spotify's figuring out how much they need to be on YouTube and have content both places because that will just promote over to Spotify.
I thought it was a very dumb idea to get rid of all those episodes.
Oh, so now my episodes will be on both platforms.
So seeing how that works.
There was a big debate going on with him about what was the best to do.
It's free on Spotify, but they have like a gold member deal.
And so they're just figuring it out.
It was not a censorship issue.
I told you, I called up Joe, had a 30-minute conversation with him last week, and I told you the truth.
It's just that Joe said, whatever the most controversial and whatever the highest views are, let me review a list.
So Spotify kind of held back some of the highest views, but also some of it they thought was controversial.
Probably kind of hoping Joe didn't pay attention, and then that didn't go over there.
But then that blew up.
So there was some truth that it was censorship, but Joe's in control, so it stopped.
dan friesen
I love the idea that within that minute, Alex was like, I'm not being censored.
Well, there was censorship going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
There's a little censorship going on.
dan friesen
I have a Spotify premium account, and those episodes aren't.
jordan holmes
Oh, they're not on there?
Oh, they're not behind the little paywall?
Oh.
Oh, man.
I have heard that so many, like that very conversation from a comic who's been banned from a show.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
They're going to get me back on CYSK for sure.
It's just like, I'm not allowed to go back on for a little while.
I just don't want to overbook people.
dan friesen
They said it's too controversial that I peed in a glass on stage.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But look, sometimes you need controversies.
Sometimes you need people who are going to push the envelope, but you can't book them every five years.
jordan holmes
The envelope's got to be stayed.
dan friesen
It's got to be every six years.
That's why I haven't been on it all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
I've heard that nonsense before.
Get out of here.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
It's great.
I love this.
This is Alex realizing that you've been let down easy, buddy.
jordan holmes
You've been let down easy.
dan friesen
So it turns out that Alex believes that it became a stock issue.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
Spotify stock might have been in trouble if they allowed Alex's Rogan episodes on or something.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
Joe had said, I want you to be one of my first guests when I get to Austin.
And then that became a huge national issue and was a stock issue and all the rest of it.
But Joe will be here soon, and I will be with him soon.
I'm going to leave it at that because it's really uncanny that his office will be right on the street from me.
So it's just, it's weird.
dan friesen
It is weird.
jordan holmes
It is weird.
dan friesen
It's not that weird.
No.
Like you have a rental office space.
jordan holmes
It's a whole little mall area.
dan friesen
It makes sense that Rogan would find something commercially available.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
I would say you probably might see Joe when he comes to see you.
alex jones
You're not going to be on the show, buddy.
Maybe.
dan friesen
I mean, if he's still putting some episodes out just on YouTube, then I could see that.
jordan holmes
YouTube doesn't allow Alex on there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but they allow Rogan to have Alex on.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, those episodes are still on YouTube.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
jordan holmes
I'm not a big of it.
unidentified
I suck.
dan friesen
And other things that have had Alex on as guests, like Patrick Bett David, his interview with Alex isn't gone.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I don't know.
Obviously, I don't know the intricacies of this Spotify deal, but I would guess, based on the fact that Alex's episodes did not make the migration, it seems to imply that, oh, and if it was a stock issue.
jordan holmes
It was a stock issue.
Their stock would have gone down.
If you have Alex on the Joe Rogan podcast, the marketing stand, there's Black Tuesday, and then there's the day Alex is allowed on Spotify.
dan friesen
I would assume that if Alex wants to do a podcast with Joe, it's going to be in the Infor studio, and it's not going to be the Rogan experience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So Alex gets off this topic, although he does talk about it for a while.
And he starts ranting about what it's going to be like when the death of the dollar comes.
alex jones
They're going to have 10, 20 years of depression and then buy it all up and break our will, and then they'll turn America back on later and have it be a threat to China and have a bipolar world again.
But right now, they want to have China take over and have a big run, probably for 50 years.
And so, folks, I start thinking about what the death of the dollar would look like.
We're talking great depression, but 10 times worse.
And we're talking war on the streets.
And so I'll talk about that coming up.
Speaking of the devil, I don't want to exaggerate, but let's put up the name of the sale right now for Tim Euros, please.
This headline is not an exaggeration.
Save Infowars, save the Republic, save yourself.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Speaking of the devil, I got to sell you something.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So we can fight the literal devil.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, the death of the dollar is coming and everything is going to be so terrible.
unidentified
So use those dollars to buy pills.
jordan holmes
You won't need them later.
Dollar's going to die.
You better use them now.
dan friesen
So Alex needs your money immediately.
And he rambles quite a bit on this episode about going out of business in the very near future.
And as is my new tradition, I refuse to take the bait.
I'm not going to take the bait, Alex.
alex jones
I literally have agonized over this last few weeks, but I'll just tell you.
We have everything we have in stock.
A lot of it we can't even reorder.
Everything's breaking down.
The supply chain's breaking down.
Everything's falling apart.
We're under massive Chinese government hack attack right now.
Both sides.
They're secure, but it slows them down.
Costs us tons of money to fight it.
This is a real war.
So if you ever wanted an InfoWars t-shirt, or you ever wanted to get an Alexa Pier Breeze, or you ever wanted to buy some of the supplements to see how they are and support us, now's the time, folks.
You don't want to wait.
This is sudden death overtime, Super Bowl, but for the whole future, everybody.
And with all their strategic attacks and things that are going on, I need to get fuel in the gas tank.
Let's say the fuel tank is on a tenth of a tank, and I've got to go 100 miles.
I've got enough gas to go 50 miles.
Okay?
So there's a lot of things I can do.
I have to make decisions.
And I've seen the big support last week, big support this week.
That buys us the extra support we just got, bought us maybe in my gas tank another three weeks.
I need to sell everything.
dan friesen
I am not taking the bait, Alex.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Nope.
And I'm definitely not dealing with a barrage of similes like that ever again.
dan friesen
Is the master of metaphor?
He knows how to really just paint a word picture of it's like a gas tank that's one-tenth full.
I got to go 100 miles, but I can only go 50 miles.
unidentified
It's like I've got an empty stomach, but I'm hungry and I only have one donut hole.
jordan holmes
So you guys got to give me more donut holes, otherwise, my stomach is going to be empty.
dan friesen
Makes total sense.
unidentified
Yeah, it makes so it's bad, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
So I'm probably just going to say we're selling out everything and then sell it at full price and then hope we have enough money to buy stuff into the future or go back to an advertising model or donations model which people don't respond to.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I wonder why.
alex jones
I'm going to save myself because if Trump loses and they're going to put us in a depression anyway, it's just going to be so hellish.
We're all going to enjoy it together.
I mean, I feel sorry for everybody, man.
I tried my best.
You know what I mean?
But I mean, it's bad.
jordan holmes
It's bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This feels almost exactly the same as we've been here before.
I think it was December, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
When it was almost exactly like this.
I probably can't order more stock.
But now, there's two possibilities because I hadn't heard that kind of shit before December.
So it's possible that Alex has just had to escalate to new levels of I need you to support the, or it's possible that that was kind of accurate then and he got enough to skate by and now he's back in the same hole that he was in before.
I don't know, but again, I'm not taking the bait.
But it bears mentioning that this is going on again.
It's happening again to a level that is, I would call, overwhelming.
If you listen to his episode, it's like, wow, this is a lot.
Yeah, this is happening over and over and over again.
So Alex gets into a little bit of etymology here.
We know that a lot of his guests don't know how words work.
jordan holmes
No, that's definitely true.
dan friesen
And it turns out that he believes them probably because he just doesn't understand words either.
alex jones
It's like in that movie Elysium where she says, you know, you'll be lucky if you don't hang for this.
And he goes, hang, we do the hanging.
That's all that gives orders.
Like Tony Montana says is balls.
And this isn't about bragging.
It's about you knowing how powerful you are.
You are just as important as anybody in the government, anybody at the New York Times, anybody at the Financial Times of London, anybody at the FBI.
You're a sovereign person that's not a slave.
You're a good person.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
alex jones
And InfoWars is directly organic out of the dirt.
Like a lily out of the Nile mud.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
alex jones
You are Moses.
That's what Moses is after.
Egyptian word for lily in the mud.
dan friesen
That's not true.
jordan holmes
I just love the confidence of that.
Yeah, just such a, just like any object.
Just, hey, that's a pen.
Do you know where the word pen comes from?
dan friesen
Where's that?
jordan holmes
It comes from the Sumerian for pen.
dan friesen
Oh, cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's great.
I know all about it.
dan friesen
Well, it's because the serpent loves word games.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
That's where Jesus comes from.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I would say that there's a real interesting difference between being like, hey, you're just as valid as anybody who writes for the New York Times or anybody in the FBI.
They're just a person like you.
jordan holmes
Just a person.
dan friesen
And there is some truth to that on just like being a human.
jordan holmes
That's why you should arrest an FBI agent if you don't like them.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's different things that people in different positions are capable of doing.
jordan holmes
That is true.
I think if you have a pair of handcuffs, you can arrest people.
dan friesen
You're basically science.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think that's how that works.
dan friesen
I think that's a functional plan.
So I also love that Alex opened that with two movie references.
That is impressive.
Like within 15 seconds, just two movies.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's Elysium.
It's like Tony Montana.
jordan holmes
It's like Tony Montana.
unidentified
Wow.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So he keeps rambling about he and his boys, the good people.
They're the ones who do the killing.
alex jones
We're on the ground.
We see what's really going on.
We're where the crops are grown, where the engines get fixed, where the diapers get changed, where the dinner gets cooked, where the house gets cleaned, where the cuts get stitched, where the fighting gets done and the killing.
jordan holmes
You guys are busy.
alex jones
Just take a break.
Step into that office.
This is where the living and the dying happens.
This is where you come into the world, you go out of the world.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, the living part, fine.
Stop with the killing talk.
jordan holmes
Stop with the killing talk.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You're creeping me out.
jordan holmes
Man, it just doesn't seem like the good guys are ever described as, we love killing.
dan friesen
We're the ones who do the killing.
jordan holmes
We do all the killing.
We're the good guys.
dan friesen
Right?
Generally is at least a suspicious sign.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, but the thing is, like, you know, hey, look, if we're the ones who are doing the killing, that's fine.
unidentified
Because the other side, they ain't got no soul, baby.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
They're like running around with hangernades, pulling the pins to blow themselves up, hoping some of the shrapnel hits us.
I mean, this is followers.
This is slaves doing this.
These are pathetic people.
Don't let Zuckerberg demoralize you.
He's a pathetic nobody.
All of them have been chosen because they're so weak and so spiritless.
They have no God in them.
Nothing.
No connection to the father.
No connection.
It's all synthetic garbage.
Mark Zuckerberg's one of the poorest people on earth.
jordan holmes
I get it.
alex jones
But they know you're rich spiritually.
That's why they want to make you poor so you don't have money to be free.
Money is not worship like they worship it because it gives them control.
Money is a symbol of energy, and I need it.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Continue the fight.
So I'm going to tell you right now: 50% off DNA Force Plus.
Wow.
jordan holmes
That was impressive.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
That was impressive.
dan friesen
That's amazing.
jordan holmes
That really was impressive.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That was a twist.
Yep.
There was craft to that.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It felt more like flailing.
jordan holmes
It could have been flailing.
dan friesen
It kind of felt more like somebody who, like, you've seen those videos of people who are skydiving and they somehow survive without.
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's really what that felt like to me.
That was like, yeah, I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
You made it.
jordan holmes
You landed.
dan friesen
But it was ugly.
I think that was really ugly.
jordan holmes
That is, I could see that being a riff that was just going on too long.
And then he heard himself say money and he was like, money's my out buddy.
I got stuff to say.
dan friesen
Speaking of money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also he said Mark Zuckerberg.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Remember that.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because he knows what his name is.
jordan holmes
Is he in the 12?
dan friesen
Which is weird.
Okay.
So Alex gets back from break and he's talking about some culture issues.
And man, this dude could get mad about anything.
alex jones
And I haven't even gotten into all the race war news.
I mean, just one of the craziest parts of the technocracy is the biggest video game sports maker, the video games, came out and they have the game where Colin Kaepernick's the best quarterback in the NFL.
I mean, he used to, all those games actually went off the real ratings.
He's not a very good quarterback.
There's some great black quarterbacks, but he's kind of black, anyways.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I mean, leaving the racism aside, man, I can't imagine how angry he was when NBA Jam Tournament Edition put Bill Clinton in the game.
Bill Clinton can't dunk.
jordan holmes
They used to.
You know what?
NBA Jam used to be about the ratings.
It was.
It was.
It used to be about the ratings.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Gary Pateman drilled threes all day.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
unidentified
Bill Clinton?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
Let me see him do one crossover.
dan friesen
Ronnie Cycley, that's a guy who can dunk.
Bill Clinton, Al Gore, absolutely not.
alex jones
What are they doing in the game?
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Can you imagine if NBA Jam had Bill Clinton in both realistic stats?
jordan holmes
Totally.
See, here's what Alex is missing.
What he needs to do is stop complaining about adding people to games and start inviting them to add more people to different games.
Mortal Kombat, why isn't Bill Clinton a playable character?
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
That is a great question.
Ask Ed Boone.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
We got to start this.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't know.
Alex seems really bent out of shape about the idea that Colin Kaepernick has good stats in a video game.
And let me go ahead and respond to this by saying I don't care.
jordan holmes
Oh, why not?
It's a statement of our values, right?
As a country, to put Colin Kaepernick into a video game?
dan friesen
This is Alex.
jordan holmes
He's still technically a free agent.
Yeah.
And he's still in the game.
dan friesen
He's not a bad football player.
jordan holmes
No, he's actually quite good.
He's actually very good at that.
dan friesen
I didn't even look into this to find, like, oh, what are the stats?
Is Alex exaggerating this?
Because I can't care.
I just can't care.
The fact that Alex cares is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
It is a problem.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing.
jordan holmes
It is a problem.
dan friesen
Oh, world leaders, listen to my show where I complain about black quarterbacks having good stats.
jordan holmes
There are some good black quarterbacks, though.
This isn't a race thing.
I don't know a race thing.
dan friesen
But I don't want the ones whose political views I disagree with to have good stats in a video game.
unidentified
You know, a lot of people don't like Don McNabb, but I'll tell you what, he was a good quarterback.
dan friesen
Putin's sitting around.
unidentified
He's like, Alex has very interesting ideas about this video game.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
I'll have to talk to my enemy, the literal devil.
dan friesen
Yikes.
So Zuckerberg, he appears to be rich, like Alex has already touched on.
jordan holmes
And he is.
dan friesen
He has money, naturally.
But he can only do what his overlords let him do.
jordan holmes
Destroy democracy.
dan friesen
He has to ask for permission.
alex jones
People like Zuckerberg get told how big a jet he can have and how many houses and what he can buy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
By J.P. Morgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, and others is a front man.
He gets told by Bill Gates.
I mean, Bill Gates has finally gotten the table of the roundtable at the highest levels.
jordan holmes
I thought he was in the 12.
alex jones
His minion, his trainee, his apprentice is Jeff Zuckerberg.
Come on over, dude.
What's up?
All my earpieces popped up.
I'm sorry, it doesn't matter.
unidentified
So now it's Jeff Zuckerberg.
jordan holmes
I think that was a Bezos Zuckerberg.
dan friesen
He does this a lot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's really sloppy.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe Zuckerberg is told how many houses he can buy by his financial advisors.
Maybe he has people who tell him, hey, don't waste.
jordan holmes
Still don't care.
If he buys more than one house, I still don't care.
I still don't care.
dan friesen
Also, we're in this weird sort of Schrodinger's Bill Gates situation where he's a member of the Council of Twelve.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
He's one of the leaders of the world, unless G Edward Griffin is on the show.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he thinks that Bill Gates is a middleman.
Oh, no, it was Skousen.
jordan holmes
Skousen was the middleman.
dan friesen
Skausen saying that Bill Gates is a middleman.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And now Bill Gates is in some kind of limbo where he was a middleman, but now he's finally got his seat at the table.
But even then, we don't know if the table is the 12s or 12.
dan friesen
I think the table is the 12.
jordan holmes
We might have gotten rid of the 12 entirely.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's a big table.
So Alex is still mad about Kaepernick.
alex jones
The greatest Nazi, if you want to be a real Nazi, a real race-based person wanting race war and wanting racial identity, it's Colin Kaepernick.
For PR purposes and all of it, he's the greatest Nazi.
And then talk about black folks.
He's the greatest so-called black guy that's closest to Hitler.
Who's closest to Christ?
I'm not comparing him to Christ.
I'm saying who's the closest to that?
It'd be Kanye West.
unidentified
Wow.
What?
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Wait, what just happened?
Did I just hear that Colin Kaepernick, a guy who was blackballed for kneeling during the anthem, is actually a Nazi because he was blackballed for kneeling during the anthem.
dan friesen
Yeah, closest to a Nazi, you can get.
Alex is sort of ranking black celebrities.
jordan holmes
He's kind of arguing that there's an equilibrium of black celebrities.
dan friesen
There's a continuum, and on one side is Colin Kaepernick, and on the other is closest to Jesus.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that's Kanye Anthony.
jordan holmes
And Kanye West.
All right.
unidentified
I feel like those aren't the ends of the spectrum.
dan friesen
No, and I don't have anything to say that would like, I don't want to dignify this with any kind of even response.
You know what a thing is.
jordan holmes
Nazi book continuum.
No.
dan friesen
I reject the idea altogether.
I just present this as, huh, this is how Alex's brain works.
unidentified
That's weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a weird thing for a human to think.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets into talking about a news story.
There's an actual story, and it's about voting.
unidentified
And yeah, he's a bit off.
alex jones
1,000 people illegally voted twice during primary elections using advanced ballots.
And I read what the state official over this said.
He looked into it.
That was a sampling.
And they found a thousand.
Videos up on Infowars.com, Georgia Secretary of State, Brad Raffin Springer, confirmed that at least 1,000 Georgian votes twice in the state's June 9th primary.
Oh, and guess who they mainly were?
I think you can guess what party cheats a lot.
dan friesen
Yours?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going to go with yours.
dan friesen
This Georgia primary story is interesting because there is something going on here, but it actually doesn't work out at all for Alex's voter fraud narratives about the presidential election.
Alex has been arguing against expanding mail-in voting, but he's always made the point that absentee voting is totally cool.
He has to believe that because Trump says that, and he's nothing if not a follower.
This is where the Georgia story is a problem.
All these instances that he's talking about are cases of people who sent in absentee ballots who also showed up on election day to the polls and voted.
So it has nothing to do with the fears and conspiracies about mail-in vote.
This story also highlights that people who do this sort of thing get caught.
The evidence is that they did.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
What do you mean?
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
The situation here is very unclear because the investigation is still ongoing.
But there are a couple of benign possibilities here that aren't good, but also aren't really intentional election fraud.
One possibility is that people sent in absentee ballots and didn't know if they'd been counted, so they thought they should vote in person to be sure, which isn't good, but they also might not have known that that was a crime.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The second possibility is brought up in an article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
Quote, voters are allowed to cancel their absentee ballots and then vote at polling places as long as their ballots haven't yet been received by election officials.
It's unclear whether the voters under investigation attempted to do so.
So there are possible explanations for this that boil down to bad voter education and poor communication about the process, but not criminal intent.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I've been on Yahoo Answers.
I imagine somebody was told, like, if you feel like you voted wrong, go to the polling place and vote for the other guy to cancel it out.
unidentified
Well, you know, like it's borderline that level of, I get it.
dan friesen
Well, you could have been on Yahoo Answers, or you could have gone to Trump's rally in North Carolina last year where he literally said, quote, so send it in and then see and then vote and see what happens.
Now you're assured, though, that your very precious and important vote has been counted.
Trump was explicitly telling his followers to try to vote twice, the very thing that Alex is yelling about some people possibly doing in Georgia.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Also, in the primary, it's Democrats running against Democrats and Republicans against Republicans.
So I'm unclear how this conspiracy is supposed to be working.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Don't you get it?
Because it only happens in the Democratic primary because they're cheating even each other.
Because blue states don't have souls, Dan.
And also, I'm going to have to say that Uruguay is a blue state as well.
I just have to.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't understand exactly what the point here is.
And I also don't really know what all the details are of the actual story in Georgia.
But I think it's interesting.
And I think more information will be known eventually.
But I think it's entirely possible that there was no necessarily attempts to fraudulently vote as much as people didn't know what the deal was.
And I mean, in this election cycle, you would expect to see increased incidences of that, along with just completely screwed up voting systems.
People who don't understand, you know, people who are new to absentee ballots, not knowing the process exactly.
It makes sense that there would be some hiccups.
And the fact that people are able to catch this means that those checks are also in place.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you want to get rid of this type of mail-in fraud ballots or whatever it is, if you want to deal with that type of fraud, I bet if you made Election Day a holiday, made sure that everybody had the education on how to vote, got paper ballots only, and standardized that across the entire country, we wouldn't be in this kind of situation.
dan friesen
Nah, fuck it.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
According to Alex, just fucking just let Trump be in charge.
jordan holmes
Just make him king.
I'm bored.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So for the rest of this episode, an hour of this episode.
jordan holmes
An hour of this episode.
dan friesen
Alex has a buddy of his, Shane Steiner, in.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because Shane went down to the old boat parade in Lake Travis.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he has some thoughts about it.
jordan holmes
Shane was in the crash.
dan friesen
Well, no.
He was jumping out of a helicopter.
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Let's hear him tell the story.
alex jones
By the way, my buddy Shane Steiner flew his helicopter around trying some amazing HD footage of the biggest Trump boat rally yet.
Probably 6,000 boats are saying.
Like Travis last weekend.
Word is it's coming up again this Saturday.
He's coming in studio to talk about that and more and show that HD footage.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
So yeah, some boats did sink.
jordan holmes
So he's not, that's he's bearing the lead on that one, right?
Well, this was a this was a huge success in his in his mind.
dan friesen
Look.
tommy shane steiner
I heard from people that were out there on the boats that said that was the most fun they've ever had on Lake Travis.
So everybody's out there having a good time.
dan friesen
Everyone's having a good time, man.
jordan holmes
I've heard from people that it was not the most fun time they've ever had because they were inside the water under a broke.
dan friesen
Well, look, man, the news says that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
tommy shane steiner
I hate to admit this, but I just found out what gaslighting is.
And it's when your own eyes are telling you something different than you're being told is going on.
And so that's what that whole day was.
So when I got home and started reading the articles of all the boats sinking and just the chaos and the they said seven boats all it was all exaggerated.
alex jones
Well, they had six books.
I mean, if you get 6,000 boats, something's going to happen, though.
My God.
tommy shane steiner
Now, I'm not going to say that no boat, but they acted like it was Armadas just going down at the helm.
dan friesen
I love this idea that he's like, oh, I feel so gaslit by the news saying the boat's up.
Now, some boats did sink.
jordan holmes
I still don't think you understand what gaslighting is despite the fact that you defined it.
That's very difficult.
dan friesen
Now, I'm not going to say that no boat sank.
jordan holmes
People are calling it like this Armada.
Now there were 6,000 boats.
dan friesen
No, he's saying that some Armada sunk a bunch of boats.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And sure, I mean, great.
The coverage of the event did largely focus on the fact that boats sank.
But that's because that's the anomaly.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, it's just a bunch of assholes on boats.
Right.
dan friesen
What makes it newsworthy is a lot of them sunk.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, none of us don't have cared.
dan friesen
Don't understand why this is so confusing for Mr. Shane Steiner.
jordan holmes
On your boats.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's fine.
dan friesen
So this is the weirdest hour because it has nothing to do with anything important.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It barely has to do with his adventure in Lake Travis.
It mostly has to do with how great having a helicopter is.
jordan holmes
That actually sounds fun.
It's not.
That sounds fun.
Having a helicopter, I believe.
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Not listening to this interview.
jordan holmes
Bilber makes it sound great.
I assume this guy makes it sound great.
dan friesen
He's like, hey, you know, it's really safe.
And they say that it's not safe.
And okay, I don't care.
I don't care.
But, you know, apparently there's like commercial or like sort of civilian drones that fly around.
Sure.
That can make things more dangerous.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
dan friesen
As Alex and Shane say, talk about in this next clip, they almost got hit by a drone one time.
tommy shane steiner
The drones flying around actually is a risk to other pilots.
In fact, you and I almost ran into a drone one time.
We were flying around downtown and big one came right up.
Yeah, it was eye-level to us, and they kind of went off to the left and we went off to the right, and we just passed each other.
alex jones
He did.
Luckily, he was watching.
He flew right up in front of us.
tommy shane steiner
He went, yeah.
But still, I mean, if that would have flown into us, that would have been fun.
alex jones
That was an Imperial probe droid.
tommy shane steiner
You always got to bring it back to Star Wars.
alex jones
Well, I mean, not that I'm even into it.
Aren't you glad Star Wars?
The whole franchise is bankrupt now because they made it SJW.
tommy shane steiner
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's kind of gone down a in the past five years.
dan friesen
The Star Wars franchise has brought in approximately $6 billion at the box office.
If you include Solo and Rogue One, which is way, way more than they cost to make.
The Force Awakens is the number four highest-grossing film of all time.
Star Wars is nowhere near bankrupt, but this is the right-wing narrative that they use to make themselves feel like their opposition to diverse casts.
It seems like it's more universally held than it actually is.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
tommy shane steiner
Oh, Archie.
jordan holmes
Shut the fuck up.
I'm not even really that into it.
Shut the fuck up.
dan friesen
You know what that moment was there?
What?
Alex brings up repeatedly in this interview that he and Shane went to high school together.
So this is like a guy who's like, oh, you dork.
jordan holmes
Oh, this is.
That's Alex.
And Alex is getting bullied.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Shane Steiner is a guy who's like a lot more in shape.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
He had a hit on the country music charts back in the early 2000s.
So, like, yeah.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
He has a bit more status than Alex.
He flies around in a helicopter.
jordan holmes
And that, of course, makes Alex turn into.
I'll roll over and let you scratch my belly.
dan friesen
Yeah, you always bring back stories.
jordan holmes
I'm not even into that story.
dan friesen
I'm not even that into it.
I'm not even into Star Wars.
unidentified
Granted, I do impressions of Emperor Palpatine all the fucking time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I've come into every show with the Imperial Market.
jordan holmes
Well, that's just a great song.
I just think it's a great song.
dan friesen
Not that in it.
jordan holmes
It's just a good song.
I'm not a big fan.
unidentified
Not that in the end.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
It's SJW.
dan friesen
SJW bankrupt nonsense.
jordan holmes
Bankrupt Star Wars.
Billionaire.
Look, it's sure.
It's the size of a small economy.
Damn.
dan friesen
All three of the last Star Wars movies that came out are in the top 35 movies in terms of box office gross of all time.
Of course they are.
jordan holmes
It's kind of a big deal.
unidentified
It's huge.
jordan holmes
A lot of people like it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now we jump to the 10th because the rest of it is just helicopter talk, and I don't care.
jordan holmes
All right.
Well, we're going to have to get rid of my new phone number idea.
1-800 helicopter talk.
dan friesen
That's too many letters.
jordan holmes
Is that too many letters?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So on the evening of the 9th, Woodward came out of the woodwork, and a lot of the excerpts of the book started to go around.
People were talking about, I mean, what do you think was the big news?
jordan holmes
Let's see.
Oh, what was it?
Trump.
Trump did.
Trump said something about some sort of global disease, I think.
And I'm pretty sure he said that it was a giant hoax and that no one should pay attention to it.
And he was recorded saying it.
CNN put out those tapes that he said it was a giant hoax way back, right?
No.
No, it's not.
dan friesen
He didn't say that.
I can't even tell what your bit is.
jordan holmes
Oh, I was being sarcastic.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Because he said that coronavirus was more serious.
dan friesen
And it was airborne.
jordan holmes
He said it was airborne.
dan friesen
And he said that he always tries to downplay it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
You got to downplay it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, that was what a lot of the media was reporting.
That was sort of the headline because it's terrifying.
And what?
jordan holmes
Because it makes Trump a premeditated murderer?
dan friesen
An argument could be made.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there are fucking tapes that you can hear of Trump literally saying those things.
jordan holmes
That was Anthony Atamanik.
That's everybody knows that he does the best Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So when I was sitting around looking at the news of this come out, I was like, this is going to be trouble for Alex.
jordan holmes
I didn't think it would be.
dan friesen
I kind of figured he'd be able to find some way to, much like, again, the guy jumping out of an airplane.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I figured there was something he was going to be able to do or be like, yeah, you know, Trump was just doing that to play.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, this is all part of his 12th-dimensional chess game.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex went a slightly different direction.
unidentified
The year is 2020, 53 days out.
And look at these mainstream headlines.
alex jones
Bad dog Mattis discussed secret military coup against President Trump while serving in his White House.
Plot to overthrow U.S. government.
dan friesen
Here you can see how there's two different media ecosystems, and they're reporting on the same underlying story with different versions.
There's a blurb from Bob Woodward's new book that Alex and Zero Hedge have decided to run with and make the main focus, which is General Mattis apparently had a conversation with Dan Coates about how there may come a time when action would need to be taken because Trump was dangerous.
This can be the lead of the story and the thing that's the most important, and it allows these people to just ignore or dismiss the other elements of the story that, like we talked about, that other outlets are focusing on, which is terrifying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it's like the boats.
You know, a lot of people aren't realizing how much fun we had along the way.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Two different media ecosystems, two different realities.
Except the mainstream press, they also cover the Mattis elements of the story.
You can find tons of articles about that.
But I wonder if Alex will also spend some time on the Trump absolutely lied about this virus publicly for political benefit partner.
Let's see.
I mean, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Will he mention what's his take on it?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he does talk a bit more about Woodward's book.
alex jones
Woodward's book is a lot of lies and a lot of stuff that's true.
I know it's true.
I know what isn't because I've studied the whole thing.
dan friesen
Aha.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So a lot of it's lies, almost all of its lies.
But then there's some truth.
And I will dictate to you what the truth is.
And then by matter of exclusion, by the process of elimination, you can tell that the things that I'm not talking about, those are lies.
jordan holmes
The thing I keep going back to, which is the big reason that Bob Woodward can go fuck himself forever and fuck him, is those tapes could have come out in what, March?
I believe it's somewhere around there.
Dan, we were still in it's over for humanity mode in March.
If those tapes had come out, the right-wing propaganda narrative would have had to go in a completely different direction.
It would have.
There's no other way.
So Bob Woodward essentially, and it's not coming back.
There's no way that Bob is going to put this out.
Just like we just saw with Alec.
He doesn't put this out, and then the right-wing goes, whoops.
dan friesen
Right.
I'm not defending his decision, and I think I tend to agree with you that it's malpractice to have not put this out earlier, especially given the way that things have gone and the consequences that we've seen in the world.
jordan holmes
It's disgusting.
dan friesen
The only reason I have any pause here is I haven't heard a reason why he didn't.
And I wonder if there is some reason that I'm not considering.
jordan holmes
He's given a reason, and the Washington Post have both given reasons.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
They are not good.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
His reasoning was: well, I needed to do more reporting on it and make sure that I got the whole story right.
dan friesen
That seems a little flimsy.
jordan holmes
It's very flimsy.
dan friesen
I don't know what goes into that sort of thing, though.
I mean, I'm not, again, I don't see that as a really great excuse.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
But it's also coming from me as someone who's not in that position.
So I don't know what legal issues there are.
But that being said, I feel like, you know, especially in a situation like this, you could make an argument that there's a moral imperative that legal consequences be damned.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Without question.
It would have changed the right-wing propaganda narrative.
dan friesen
Which has been largely the driver of a large part of what has made this so difficult for our country to they would have had to go in the complete opposite direction where it is over for humanity.
jordan holmes
They would have had to keep going on that route.
I just blown away.
It's just fucked up.
And I mean, here's what it is.
He recorded Trump saying, I am letting people die for my personal benefit.
And he held on to that in order to sell books, meaning that Bob Woodward is letting people die for his personal benefit.
It is the same action, and it's disgusting.
It really is.
dan friesen
Yeah, I find it difficult to not hear that as a pretty sensible point of view.
It's a pretty big bummer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a real big bummer.
dan friesen
So anyway, back to our issue here today with Alex.
The thing you need to know is that all of Bob Woodward's book isn't true.
jordan holmes
But the parts that are true.
dan friesen
Except for the part that Alex wants to be true.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
So all of Woodward's book is a lie.
We'll go over that.
Except for the fact that they were plotting a coup, which is totally illegal and criminal, but now they're lionizing it because they're preparing another one when Trump doesn't accept the fraudulent results when they try to steal the election.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
So the only part of this that's true is the part that's useful to me, and everything else is all lies, so just ignore it.
We won't even really even talk about it.
unidentified
That's mean.
dan friesen
Also, no conversation about the fires in the West.
jordan holmes
None.
None.
dan friesen
None that I recall in these episodes.
jordan holmes
It's fucking a quarter of our country is on fire right now and no talking about it.
dan friesen
No, because there's bigger issues.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
In what is Mexico today, all the way down into Central and South America, by the collapse of the Mesoamerican society that happened right as Cortez arrived, and they were already collapsed.
The main source of meat was human flesh of children.
They had shops down at the bottom of the pyramids with hanging children.
People came and bought the meat.
People would routinely eat their own children after they were gutted.
They'd go buy an arm or a leg.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
alex jones
That's how they can get us to not care about human life.
That was going on everywhere.
dan friesen
It's not a sustainable system in any means.
Humans are not nearly as nutritious as maybe you'd like to imagine.
Also, the giving birth for food thing.
jordan holmes
That's a real fucked up thing to do.
Well, it's also resource-wise.
dan friesen
Sure.
Especially at a time when maybe you don't survive childbirth.
jordan holmes
Considering how much you have to eat to bring the childbirth.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The amount of time it takes, the gestational period.
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't.
jordan holmes
No, that's a poor economy.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's no way you could have a main source of meat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe you could for like a week, but then it's all over.
jordan holmes
I think it would have to be like a 50-50 thing.
Everybody gets to eat one person and then it's over.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Until you've got one person, you know, very dumb.
Eye for an eye leaves out.
unidentified
Everybody's people go down to the store and get an arm.
jordan holmes
See, I thought the way to make people okay with killing people was to dehumanize them and perhaps even say that they didn't have a soul and they have no correct connection to your creator.
That's what I thought.
dan friesen
No, that's Americano.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, I mean, this blew my mind.
I didn't realize that.
Did you know that there are parts of your body called life switches?
alex jones
But of course, the Mill Gates vaccines are linked to turning off a chromosome in the cells that is a life switch.
It throws a kill switch.
I just can't make this up.
Of course, it's a kill switch.
He wants us to die.
He really wants you to take this.
He says it's going to make you really sick.
You're going to need a lot of these shots.
Then they're going to manage covering all that up.
It's all a big sick laboratory test.
But listen, with what's happening in the supply chain breakdown and all the craziness and China hoarding food and Europe and governments and elites digging into bunkers, you need to get your storable food one to two weeks from delivery now.
jordan holmes
God damn.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
God damn.
They're going to turn your life switch off.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Got to get some storable food.
dan friesen
He is banging on all cylinders.
jordan holmes
God damn.
dan friesen
Here's a little bit later.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
But I'm just telling you, this is the big move.
The enemy should try a coup.
They're going to blow up power plants, set nukes off.
I don't know.
Anything.
Race riots, false flags.
We're in the season of war.
America is fighting for its life.
They're going to contest the election.
This is absolutely horrible.
The Justice Department's got a bunch of wimps in it.
They're not in control of anything.
And we are just sending ducks to authoritarians.
But I think God will help us.
With Providence, we'll make it out of this.
But it's up to you now.
But get your storable food and products now.
NinfoWarsore.com while you still can.
jordan holmes
Nailed it.
unidentified
They're going to blow up power plants, nuke cities.
jordan holmes
I've just read the Bible too many times to think that it's okay for you to be like, I think Jesus is going to get us through it.
And you need to buy storable food.
You can't have those back-to-back.
You can't.
dan friesen
Doesn't seem good.
jordan holmes
Jesus was pretty against that idea.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Bob Woodward's book is obviously the main media cycle.
And Alex's version of it is all about this thing about Mattis.
And so, like, if I'm going to handle this story, I got to call in my big guns.
alex jones
Roger Stone, what do you make of the coup plot against America?
I mean, even Zero Hedge gets it right.
Mattis wanted to overthrow the U.S. government.
I mean, that's what this is on Rogers audio earlier.
Roger, can you hear me?
dan friesen
Don't say the N-word.
alex jones
I'm still the phone like I originally wanted, guys, okay?
unidentified
Let's just do that.
alex jones
Okay, well, Roger, can you hear me?
He didn't hang up.
He's on the line, guys.
He just doesn't have audio.
dan friesen
I'm with you.
Hey, Roger.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was bad.
I was really praying he wouldn't say something really unsavory.
So was Alex, I'm sure.
unidentified
Yeah, I believe it.
dan friesen
So here's Roger's take on things.
unidentified
Now you have this latest flap with Bob Woodward.
Why would Bob Woodward, why would anyone believe anything he says?
alex jones
Oh, I don't know.
dan friesen
Now, I'm here to not necessarily stand up for Bob Woodward.
No.
But I am going to say that maybe Roger Stone is not the best source to call whatever Woodward is being discussed.
I think there might be a conflict of interests there.
Who would believe this guy?
Yeah, he's got to believe this guy.
You don't want to talk to a guy who has a Nixon tattoo about whether Woodward.
jordan holmes
Bob Woodward?
Why not?
Why not?
Why would anybody believe anything that Bob Woodward says?
dan friesen
It's like interviewing a guy about Upton Sinclair who has a tattoo of a dirty factory on his back or something.
jordan holmes
What do you think?
It's all lies.
It's all lies.
It's bullshit.
Come on, they're just trying to take down Goodman.
dan friesen
There's real comedy in the fact that Roger is like, yeah, all right.
jordan holmes
Of all people.
Of all people.
dan friesen
He's who Alex has.
Like, probably, you know.
jordan holmes
I don't know if there is a more partisan pro-Nixon person to talk to.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like, I just don't know.
dan friesen
Maybe a family member.
jordan holmes
I don't even know about him.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
He was a dick to his family.
He was a dick, period.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think Roger is about as good as you're going to get.
And it does not come up this weird conflict of interest about Watergate.
jordan holmes
That's awesome.
dan friesen
But, oh, well.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Come on.
dan friesen
So, Roger yells about how Trump needs to seize all the ballots in Nevada.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
The ballots in Nevada on election night should be seized by federal marshals and taken from the state.
They are completely corrupted.
No votes should be counted from the state of Nevada if that turns out to be the provable case.
We can prove voter fraud in the absentees right now.
dan friesen
So if this is proven, then we should seize all the ballots and we can prove it now.
So that means that Trump should go ahead and seize all the ballots.
jordan holmes
He might as well just seize them right now.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
Have they ever noticed that when they condemn other countries for doing stuff that's anti-democratic, that they're saying that we should do that anti-democratic stuff?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you can even take it less abstract than that.
Alex is about to get engaged in what could be a very difficult election process and covering it, and it might go to the courts.
Courts might get involved.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's doing that with the assistance and the expertise of Roger Stone, who was involved in the Brooks brothers situation and the stopping of the recount in Florida in 2000 that led to and precipitated Bush being named president, which Alex thinks is an illegal carrying out of a stealing of an election that Roger Stone was directly involved in.
jordan holmes
He helped steal it.
dan friesen
So now Alex is his guy is not only coming on to talk about Woodward and not citing his biases.
jordan holmes
And how other people are stealing elections.
dan friesen
He's also going to be making rationalizations and probably engaging in similar behaviors as he did in the 2000 election.
And Alex back then would have said it was stealing an election.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And now it's just good stuff.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Now, here's the problem with Roger and Alex and all of this stuff.
It's how they're framing things.
And we've seen this with Alex constantly.
And I think that Roger does it a little more clearly.
unidentified
I'd like to have an honest election in which the real winner takes off it.
The real winner will not be Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
That's unimpeachable.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Unimpeachable logic.
dan friesen
I want a fair election where the rightful winner wins and the rival winner cannot be Joe Biden in a fair election.
By definition, he cannot win a fair election.
Therefore, any election where Joe Biden wins is not a fair election.
Trump is the only possible winner.
jordan holmes
Therefore, everyone knows that in every fair election, there is a foregone winner, and the election itself is pointless.
dan friesen
This is such a normal point on Alex's show at this point that if you're listening to it, you've just probably absorbed it as fact.
Like, there's no possible chance that Biden could win in any fair scenario.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's dangerous.
That's a fucked-up thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Roger has to go.
And Alex needs another guest.
Needs another marquee guest.
And when it's time to talk about potential coups, we got one man.
That's right.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Steve Chanik is in the mix.
Alex wants to talk about how dangerous it is that Mattis is trying to plan this coup.
steve pieczenik
And here's Steve's response: An attempted coup is really not a very serious problem.
unidentified
Ooh!
Ooh!
Whiffed.
jordan holmes
I gotta give it up to Steve again.
I gotta give it up one more time.
The man takes big swings.
dan friesen
You really expected him to come in and be like, Alex, this is horrible.
We've got to root everyone out.
Hey, try to have a coup.
What are you going to do?
jordan holmes
I think he's called for coups so many times now he probably doesn't think it's that big of a deal.
He calls for a coup every other week.
Yeah, yeah, he's he's uh he's called for Melania to kick Trump out of office.
dan friesen
That's true.
Hey, no big deal.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, I've got some succeeded coups.
I've had some failed coups.
It's not that big a deal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Steve, what he believes is that the problem that we see here is that our military is just not going to work.
It just doesn't work.
jordan holmes
It just doesn't work.
dan friesen
Military.
It doesn't work.
unidentified
Oh, damn it.
steve pieczenik
What's happened is our military is not viable.
We got 2.2 million men in uniform.
There's no value to it.
Trump understands that Trump took us out of Syria.
He took us out of Iraq, Afghanistan.
Why did he do that?
For number one, he is very smart.
He knows we do not win wars.
They're not effective.
We do not make money.
And the bottom line is that we have a far more serious problem in terms of the economy and in terms of getting our growth back.
alex jones
I was about to say, for people that were actually there, they said Woodward and others are lying.
dan friesen
So now Woodward is lying about Mattis's attempted coup.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is confusing.
jordan holmes
This is unfortunate.
This is what happens when the truth is just so obvious that it's like they can't admit that they were stupid for any reason or that Trump is an idiot.
dan friesen
And that talking to Woodward is fucking stupid.
He shouldn't have done that.
jordan holmes
He's incredibly stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And so it has to be even more outlandish.
All right, right.
We can only accelerate.
That's what I'm saying with Woodward.
We can only accelerate from here.
What he did is meaningless now.
He destroyed the meaning of his own work.
dan friesen
But I'm not disagreeing with you.
jordan holmes
I know.
I'm sorry.
I'm just angry about it.
dan friesen
I understand.
And you have every right to be.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
But I would also say that maybe he wouldn't know that.
You know?
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
Maybe in a more sensible time, this would have been a disruptive that would have.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
I mean, he probably thought it only took him forever to take down Nixon, too.
I don't know.
Fuck him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I have no sympathy.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
So, Steve has to wrestle with this, this question that is: If this guy that we love is so smart, why would he do something so stupid?
That's a good question to talk to Woodward.
unidentified
That's a great question.
dan friesen
Now, granted, we're not going to talk about what he said.
Oh, why wouldn't we?
But Steve is asking questions that really answer themselves.
steve pieczenik
Why would Trump allow Bob Woodward to have 18 interviews with him when Trump knew very well from Woodward's history that he's going to get a hit piece?
It's going to be a disaster about him.
And there's no upside.
Yet he spent a whole hour in the beginning at the White House, and then every night for 18 nights, he would call Woodward.
Now, why would a man who's so smart do that?
unidentified
Yeah, ask yourself that.
jordan holmes
Do you know what it is exactly?
dan friesen
Narcissism?
jordan holmes
It's when a serial killer will go talk to the cops while they're investigating the crime he committed.
That's 100% what it is.
It is narcissism, some literation.
How I can get away with everything.
It's totally that.
dan friesen
I mean, it's, you know, granted, we're making an assumption, but boy, does it feel like that?
jordan holmes
It sure looks exactly like that.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So apparently, Steve, I mean, I should have known this.
Apparently, him and Bob Woodward go way back.
jordan holmes
Of course.
steve pieczenik
I get to know Woodward.
I thought he was a pony to begin with.
He and I started at a newspaper called the Montgomery County Sentinel.
He never had any journalism behind him.
He's a CIA operative.
I've known all about him for years.
jordan holmes
Wait, What did he just say?
dan friesen
He started at the Montgomery.
unidentified
He started together at the Montgomery Journal Sentinel.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait.
Steve Procenek works for the Montgomery Journal Sentinel?
tommy shane steiner
What?
jordan holmes
What just happened here?
dan friesen
Steve's done everything.
jordan holmes
What just happened here?
dan friesen
Steve's done everything.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
So in this next clip, I knew young Martin Luther King Jr. as he was growing up in Alabama.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah.
He was the intro.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was.
dan friesen
So now Steve gets to answering the question of like, if Trump is so smart, why would he do this?
jordan holmes
Because he's not.
dan friesen
Well, I would say that Steve's describing a real asshole here and someone who I definitely don't want to be president.
alex jones
So why did Trump do it?
So he'd know what his enemies were up to?
steve pieczenik
That's one thing.
But Trump, like yourself and possibly like me, we like the game.
The game to us is far more important than anything anyone else can see.
Now, what do I mean?
jordan holmes
Good question.
steve pieczenik
Look how many books came out now about him negatively.
Mary Trump says that he's a terrible man.
His sister says he's worse than terrible.
Michael Cohn, his Jewish corrupt lawyer, says he's worried.
jordan holmes
What did that just say?
steve pieczenik
And then you have other books coming out says that he's a disaster, John Bolton.
Why does he do that?
One word only.
It's called Trump.
You can knock it.
You can praise it.
He doesn't give a damn either way as long as you use the word T-R-U-M-P.
And every one of these people who goes negatively against them, including the stupid publishers, are doing nothing more than to help Trump self-aggrandize because he understood something a long time ago that you and I understood.
Every knock is a boost.
dan friesen
That's really, really bad for a leader to think that way.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Because think about it.
If you just allow that sort of reasoning to go to its logical extent, how much bad press would he get from nuking somebody?
Like, how much bad press would he get from doing terrible things?
Probably a ton.
Who cares if it's bad press?
They're talking about me.
That is a really, really Cancerous mentality for someone with actual power to have.
jordan holmes
Alex, do you know why he's doing this?
Because he's a narcissistic psychopath, Alex.
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
It's something that you and I. That's what we want to do.
It's all about the game.
It's not about the hundreds of thousands of people that are dead he personally killed.
dan friesen
We understand this because that's how we make money.
jordan holmes
Look, you're in the game.
It's like Omar, all right, man.
It's like Omar.
alex jones
It's like King T. Barnum said, just get my name right.
And Trump understands that that gives him the name recognition.
And then there's also so much disinfo that none of it matters.
And the more he survives disinfo, the more he almost becomes invincible to anything they might have that's real.
steve pieczenik
You got it, and that's true of Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Whoa.
jordan holmes
You guys accidentally kind of got it right if you just remove this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that also kind of is an admission that there is a lot of real stuff.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
That he's getting away with because of these representative fake things.
And that's not good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's unfortunately kind of stunningly insightful and yet at the same time wrong.
dan friesen
And I don't know why Trump or Alex would want Trump to be invincible.
I don't think.
jordan holmes
No, you want your elected leaders to have and face no consequences for their actions, Dan.
dan friesen
Even when there's real things that are doing that are really bad.
jordan holmes
That's what you want.
dan friesen
Cool.
I will say a lot of this episode has to do with Alex saying that the Chinese government is hacking his website.
Sure.
And I don't care.
I don't care if he was actually having some kind of a DDoS attack or something.
It's possible that, but I don't believe it was the Chinese government or anything.
He spends a lot of time on it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And I just didn't.
jordan holmes
It was actually a scalar attack.
dan friesen
Could have been Steve.
Who knows?
Anyway, Roger was on, and he was saying that he wants a fair election, and the only possible fair election result is Trump winning.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now, Steve, his position is more.
jordan holmes
I don't want a fair election.
And I want Trump to go.
unidentified
I will commit crimes in order to make sure that happens.
steve pieczenik
Let me put this again.
I've said it a couple of years ago on your show that the Clintons would never come back.
And I said that there was a coup at the time.
Let me put it again.
If there's any attempt by the Democrats to come in legally or illegally, I can assure you and your audience that's not going to happen.
I'm not going to pronounce what I have to say because I'll have the FBI right at my door as I had last time when I criticized Obama.
But the bottom line is that there are many ways to make sure that the Democrats don't come to power.
The legal way and there are other ways.
Trump understands pretty much what has to be done.
dan friesen
Jesus.
That is like.
jordan holmes
I mean, okay, I guess that's fascism for you.
dan friesen
I mean, you're openly talking on this radio, supposedly news program.
unidentified
I think we should overthrow the country if I don't get what I want.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Roger Stone is creating a scenario wherein only Trump winning is a fair election.
Everything else is by definition not fair and a fraudulent election.
And Pieczenik is saying that we have illegal means that we are going to use to make sure the Democrats can't ever come into power.
You're like, all right, guys.
Can you please just stop fucking pretending?
jordan holmes
You say you're fascists and you want to make Trump king.
Fuck off.
Just cut it out.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Stop trying to.
And you're not even dancing around it at all.
dan friesen
And it becomes so overt when Steve is on.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's just a straight-up fascist.
dan friesen
Fuck due process.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
I don't give a shit.
I don't even want a fair election.
dan friesen
This country, America, is not about freedom.
It's about business.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
We are a business.
Okay.
All right.
Alex, you should hate this guy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So I think the coronavirus, COVID-19, and the challenges that we've all been faced with have taught us some lessons, I think.
jordan holmes
Some of us.
dan friesen
Personally, I think I've learned a lot about the different struggles that people go through.
The various things that you don't consider because maybe it's not exactly your experience of the world that other people have.
Like people who are immunocompromised or have other conditions that put them at higher risk.
The fear and the danger, interactions that you might be comfortable with to them is a completely different thing.
It expanded my horizon and my awareness a little in ways that I definitely wish I was more aware of before, but I'm glad I know now.
Secondly, it's also made me more aware of how much opportunity there is to help people.
You know, there's a lot of things that you can do, even if you feel like there's nothing you can do.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And I appreciate those things a great deal.
It's also taught me that maybe my lifestyle prior to it was a little bit isolated and confining.
And maybe once things open up a little more, I should make a greater effort to not live as if I was in quarantine.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
So there's some lessons.
And I would say that Steve has a different lesson.
steve pieczenik
The reality is, coronavirus hit on a very interesting dynamic, and that was: do we need cities?
And do we need cities that were really in effect?
alex jones
No, obviously the cities are obsolete and corrupt and a big problem.
dan friesen
Fuck cities.
I don't know what organizational system he's advocating for.
jordan holmes
Feudalism?
I don't know.
Even then, a castle is still kind of a city.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what kind of functional organizational structure he's looking for.
jordan holmes
I sure as fuck don't want to find out.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
It's going to be something weird.
jordan holmes
It's not going to be good for me, personally.
No.
dan friesen
You and I and everyone we've ever met will be fucked.
jordan holmes
Fucked.
Thoroughly.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Alex wants to talk to Steve about something really important because this is September 10th, and the next day is 9-11.
alex jones
And the time we have left, I'm going to hit a little bit of 9-11.
Dr. Pacheneg's welcome back tomorrow.
He wants you to get into 9-11.
It's important to talk about what happened there and what went on.
Now that we've moved on past that group, I don't talk about it a lot because I want to demoralize people, but we've covered it at nauseum.
It's important to remember what happened so it doesn't happen again and to know that Trump called in the day after it happened and said, yeah, they had bombs in the buildings.
They blew it up.
I mean, he can see what happens.
He's a good guy at the end of the day.
We're blessed to have him.
He deserves a Nobel Peace Prize that would bring credit back to that prize.
It's become a joke.
dan friesen
Wow.
That went some directions.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, when Obama got the Peace Prize, it became a joke.
dan friesen
That's Alex's point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would say that we've dealt with the group that did.
Like, I thought it was the Globalists.
I thought everything was the Globalist.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
We got the group.
All right, fine.
dan friesen
Let's not explore that at all.
jordan holmes
Do not worry about those pages that were redacted.
Don't worry about that.
dan friesen
They do run out of time to talk about 9-11.
jordan holmes
Oh, do they?
Yes.
It seemed like Alex was very specifically avoiding the fact that he still thinks Bush did it.
dan friesen
I don't.
jordan holmes
Or does he not still think Bush did it?
dan friesen
I don't know what he thinks, quite honestly.
jordan holmes
That's fair anymore.
dan friesen
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So they run out of time, and they decide that they'll reconvene tomorrow on 9-11 to talk about 9-11.
jordan holmes
Are they going to talk about what Trump said about how tall his building was?
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
I don't think they will.
dan friesen
No.
This made me laugh.
This is pretty funny because Alex, much like at the beginning of Steve's interview, and he's trying to talk about Mattis and this coup, and Steve's like, fuck a coup, who gives a shit?
No big deal.
Alex is really making a meal out of how scary China is and how, oh, no, China.
steve pieczenik
Let me put the China issue in context.
Number one, we've confronted China in the South China Sea.
I wrote about that years ago.
alex jones
Sure, you said it was coming on your boat.
steve pieczenik
Right.
And PAC specifically, I'm not worried about China right now because China has a bigger problem in the United States, and that is Trump's personal friend, Modi of India.
Because Modi of India will not tolerate Xi's incursions into the Himalayas.
alex jones
We put them in check with Modi.
Absolutely.
I agree economically.
jordan holmes
You guys installed Modi?
alex jones
What about the left's hatred of themselves in the country?
That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
I've got to move along to that.
I've got to pivot over to another conversation because Steve just kind of deflated all of your fears about China.
unidentified
A little bit.
dan friesen
Apparently, they're in checkmate because of Modi.
jordan holmes
See, here's the trick.
China's not worried about our fascist dictator.
They're worried about India's fascist dictator.
Done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So now Steve has defused Alex's talking point about Mattis running a coup.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Now he's also diffused Alex's, I mean, China's the most terrifying thing in the world thing.
dan friesen
I mean, that's Alex's almost entire reason to exist now.
jordan holmes
You don't even need to worry about it.
dan friesen
No, because Modi.
unidentified
Ah, man.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Pieczenik.
Pieczenik is a great one-off interview.
Everything that he says is reset at the end.
He's like the sitcom where at the end of the sitcom, we always get back to where we started.
dan friesen
He's the balloon popper.
Alex just brings him in.
He's like, fuck your balloons.
Fuck your balloons.
I don't give a shit.
You spent a while inflating that thing?
jordan holmes
Don't give up, Buck.
dan friesen
And then he leaves and Alex is just back to normal.
You are right about the sitcom thing, but he just wrecks shop.
jordan holmes
It's like C-Lab 2021.
Every episode, the C-Lab explodes at the end.
And then the next one, you're just like, everything's fine.
Let's just move on.
dan friesen
And this last clip is another example of it.
Alex keeps talking about how they're going to try and keep Trump out of office and they're going to have all these machinations.
He's like, what do we do, Steve?
alex jones
In the few minutes we have left, what do you predict their ducex or their ace in the hole could be?
A false flag?
I mean, I don't want to be overconfident.
What could this corrupt establishment do to make sure Trump doesn't get in?
steve pieczenik
They're not going to do anything.
dan friesen
What's her day of sex going to be?
Is it going to have a false flag?
unidentified
What are they going to do?
dan friesen
Going to set off a new blob of power plant, throw Antifa at everybody?
jordan holmes
We're not going to do shit.
unidentified
Balloon popped.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's very good.
dan friesen
So, I mean, as we come to the end of this stretch of time, like, I mean, we see this continuing of Alex.
I'm not going to take the bait, but Alex is talking about his financial troubles.
That's consistent.
The aggressive ad pitches.
Totally.
Certainly.
jordan holmes
Blasphemous even.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Certainly getting more and more of those and more entertaining versions, I appreciate.
jordan holmes
Turns out Stone doesn't like Bob Woodward.
dan friesen
What a shock.
jordan holmes
For some reason, he just doesn't like him.
Alex is a liar.
dan friesen
No real talk about some of the issues that are the most important to a lot of people, like the fires and the West Coast.
Right.
No real conversation about the tapes that Woodward released.
jordan holmes
Ooh, they're all lies.
You don't even need to talk about them, Dan.
Definitely don't play him.
dan friesen
Right.
So Alex then builds up his whole thing of his version of the Woodward story based on a Zero Hedge article.
Has Roger Stone come in and just say Woodward's an asshole.
And then Steve deflates all of his narratives.
It's just weird.
jordan holmes
It's very weird.
You know what?
Remember, like, I'm stuck in my craw, but it's Deus X. Not do sex.
dan friesen
I know.
jordan holmes
It's just, you know, do sex.
Yeah.
Anyways, it's frustrating.
Where were you?
dan friesen
I mean, we were texting earlier when I was telling you, like, we might have to record a little bit late because I've got to get the, you know, as current of an episode as possible.
I want to see what the Woodward fallout is.
And your text was, it's going to be disappointing.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And I was like, yeah, probably.
And it is.
It is a little disappointing.
Except for the fact that, you know, we got this Woodward story.
I'm calling in Roger and Steve.
It's like, all right.
jordan holmes
I do love a paganic appearance.
I do.
When he's the Kerry Cassidy of this show.
dan friesen
When he's grumpy or when he's just like, go fuck yourself, then he's great.
But when he's a little sleepy or just not trying, then it's just so boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and the inserted unnecessary racism is always an issue.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Points out at everybody who's Jewish.
jordan holmes
Jesus, man.
That's just too much.
That's just too much.
Calm it down.
Even for us on InfoWars.
dan friesen
I feel like we probably should have maybe discussed that.
But the reason that I don't generally is because we talk about it a bit.
Steve does it all the time.
jordan holmes
Every time he's on, it's a casual.
dan friesen
But I'm glad that you called it out.
jordan holmes
It's a tick.
It's like he can't stop himself from being the most racist person that you can think of.
dan friesen
Quite.
jordan holmes
It's awful.
dan friesen
So to get this taste out of our mouth, let's take some calls.
jordan holmes
That sounds great.
unidentified
Hey, Dan.
Hey, Jordan.
This is Policy Monk Charlotte from Washington, D.C.
And I wanted to float an idea past you guys.
I have a theory that this could prove to add just a little bit more lighter fluid to the tire fire that is 2020.
But do we know anybody in Joe Biden's camp so that we can add a pillar to his platform, which would argue that as president, he will force Twitter and Facebook to reinstate Alex Jones?
Something to think about.
Anyway, thanks, boys.
Really appreciate the podcast.
Y'all take care.
dan friesen
I think that's a great idea.
jordan holmes
That's a heel turn.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I would love to see this.
Here's why.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Presidents don't have to follow through on their promises.
jordan holmes
That's 100% true.
In fact, I would argue most of them never do.
dan friesen
So Biden could fleece Alex by insisting that he was going to get him back on Twitter just to see if that would make Alex.
jordan holmes
Would it work?
dan friesen
I wonder.
jordan holmes
That would be a good question.
dan friesen
Yeah, I could see him softening a little bit.
jordan holmes
You think so?
Alex, maybe?
All right.
dan friesen
We'll see.
jordan holmes
That's what you do to broaden up your base.
You know, you invite Alex back on Twitter.
dan friesen
You don't need to follow through with it.
You don't even have to have any intention of doing that.
jordan holmes
Just say that it's a big part of your plan.
steve pieczenik
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Hi, Dan and Jordan.
This is Matt in Washington.
I just wanted to call to say you've helped me process losing my parents to Trump, and it means a lot to me.
I'm also sure I'm not the only listener with this issue, so shout out to everybody going through this.
My parents used to be run-of-the-mill conservative Christians, but 2016 opened them to the wide world of conspiracy theory, which completely pushed me away from them.
I found your show through Robert Evans, and both his shows and yours have helped me to understand what the hell my parents are caught up in.
At first, I thought I could use your show to help them somehow, but I now appreciate that not many people let their kids change their minds.
The work you do is so, so important, though.
And I hope we see more shows like yours in the future that deconstruct conspiracy narratives.
So thank you guys so much.
You are both awesome, and your ice cubes are very juicy.
Bye.
dan friesen
I'm uncomfortable with how positive that calls and how complimentary it is, but I wanted to play it because there's a lot of people who are probably in similar situations.
jordan holmes
Fuck, I am.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, I wanted to extend our thoughts.
jordan holmes
Condolences, yeah.
dan friesen
And people who are listening who might be able to empathize with what Carler was saying.
jordan holmes
I will absolutely commiserate with, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're not alone out there, people.
So, next call.
jordan holmes
Hi.
unidentified
I wanted to say that I love the show.
Also, I just wanted to take a moment to say hello to Celine.
I hope that she's having a good time.
Thanks.
This is Gabby, by the way.
dan friesen
Hey, Gabby.
Not enough people giving Celine a shout out.
jordan holmes
It was nice to hear that she was thinking of Celine.
dan friesen
That's great.
Now's as good a time as any for a Celine update.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good idea.
dan friesen
I have murdered my cat.
jordan holmes
You murdered her?
unidentified
No, I didn't.
dan friesen
Oh, but she's on thin ice.
jordan holmes
That'd be a weird way to.
dan friesen
I've murdered her with love.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
Well, have I got a doozy for you?
dan friesen
No, I'm just a little bit, you know, as I've gotten more into this home gardening thing, it's tough to balance.
jordan holmes
Do you think you've been neglecting her a little bit?
dan friesen
Well, I've been paying a good amount of attention, but it's hard to balance having a cat in the home and also pots of clams around.
You have to find a way to make sure that, like, because if you look over there, my greens are stamped all over them.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I see that now.
dan friesen
Basically, what I've had to do is I've had to try and find a way to...
Most of the plants are here in the office.
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
And...
dan friesen
And so basically, I just can't have her in the office when I'm not in here.
And it's not a perfect system because obviously she can still, if I'm not paying attention, she can still get up there.
She ate two of my plants.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
A couple times I've just gone to the bathroom and I've come back and she's knocked over a pot from the side and then just is looking at me like what she's doing cat shit.
Yeah, I know.
And it's not her fault.
I know she's not being malicious, but like.
jordan holmes
No, she is.
That's cat shit.
Cats are malicious.
dan friesen
You know, it's tough to balance, but from what I can tell, she's having fun doing it.
So in terms of Gabby's question, she's doing good and having fun.
jordan holmes
Yes, once again, cats have fun by torturing you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Hey, guys.
This is Scott in Austin, Texas.
And I heard your broadcast the other day about Alex Jones and his protest at Barton Springs, where he claimed he had 200 people protesting.
I actually work in Barton Springs and got down to see the protest about an hour or so after it started.
Did not see 200 of his followers, maybe 40 or 50.
There were about 200 people at the Springs, but they were already there of their own volition.
But of course, you know, likes to claim false numbers.
And also, happy ending.
Some citizen called the cops on them because they were harassing people with megaphones.
And shortly after that, he got really quiet.
Love the show.
Keep up the good work.
dan friesen
This is fake news.
jordan holmes
Fake news.
dan friesen
I had nothing but a great time at Barton Springs.
alex jones
We had a food truck.
dan friesen
Everything was great.
jordan holmes
Dan's right.
dan friesen
All right.
Well, I appreciate the first-hand report there from Barton Springs.
jordan holmes
Of course, he added other people who were just hanging out.
dan friesen
Into the totals.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, I'm sure that it was a globalist who said that Alex was harassing him because you can't harass somebody with a little baby bullhorn.
jordan holmes
You cannot.
It's against the reality.
It's not possible.
dan friesen
Also, I have been trying to use Tyranny Slapper to annoy Celine.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And it has not been working.
She is unfazed by the baby bullhorn.
jordan holmes
Of course she is.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
unidentified
Even she finds it harassed.
Globalist Amy here.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
unidentified
Seeing a new episode, drop is off in one of my bright spots of the day.
So I really appreciate and thank you so much for keeping me laughing and all of us laughing during these super, super shit times.
I also really wanted to add my voice to the Australian contingent and say it's pronounced Quoka.
But what I really wanted to ask is, I'm getting my cat Pluto a new kitty friend.
We're adopting a new cat.
And I would really love your suggestions on what their name should be.
Thank you so much again.
Stay safe.
And again, Quokka.
Thanks, guys.
Bye.
dan friesen
I'm at war with Australia.
jordan holmes
Quoka.
It's just over for us.
We've just lost.
We've just lost.
dan friesen
Also, I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize because on our last episode, I believe I referred to Australia as an island.
And I don't think that they're going...
jordan holmes
Technically, you know.
dan friesen
If we're getting this kind of blowback for Quokka, I don't think anyone's going to take kindly to that.
So before we get a flood of Australian calls, I apologize for.
jordan holmes
It's like Pluto.
Australia's been downgraded from continent to island.
unidentified
I'm wholehearted in my apology.
dan friesen
I don't know.
That's fun.
Cat name.
I mean, obviously.
jordan holmes
Duncan, Idaho, my friend.
Dunes coming.
dan friesen
You got the Dune.
jordan holmes
Dunes around the corner.
dan friesen
All right.
Duncan, Idaho.
jordan holmes
Duncan, Idaho.
dan friesen
I would say Daryl Rundis.
jordan holmes
Daryl Rundis is a good one, too.
dan friesen
It's not a good cat name.
unidentified
It's not a good cat name, but you can live with it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I was trying to think of funny InfoWars names.
Daryl Rundis.
jordan holmes
Daryl Rundis going to go.
I'm going to stick with.
I can see Leo Katgami.
dan friesen
Leo Katgami.
jordan holmes
Leo Katgami.
No, that doesn't work.
dan friesen
No, that's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you could just call it Leo.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
True.
jordan holmes
Who else?
unidentified
Ooh.
jordan holmes
Just go with feline Contessa.
dan friesen
That's not a name.
jordan holmes
Contessa.
Cat.
Tessa.
I don't know why I'm doing portmanteaus with cat in the name.
You're not going to name your cat cat something.
dan friesen
No.
Rob Meow?
That doesn't work.
No, that's a bad pod.
If I got another cat, I might name it.
jordan holmes
Rob Mew.
dan friesen
I might name it Buckley.
jordan holmes
That's actually a pretty good cat name.
dan friesen
Yeah, Buckley is a pretty fun name.
jordan holmes
Buckley is a fun name.
I like a good Buckley.
I don't like a bad Buckley.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know if I have any good ideas, but I wish you the best in your new pet friend adventure.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
And the naming thereof.
unidentified
Hey, is this the tap, guys?
Damn Jordan.
Huge fan.
Uli down here in Springfield, Missouri.
Just wanted to say thank you so much for calling out Springfield.
I'm a transplant.
There are good people, even in these weird bastions called conservative ethics, we could call it.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for the show that you do.
I have lagged severely on my own podcast because I'm too busy catching all of your episodes.
And if you ever come down to Springfield, Missouri, you know, you got a place to have some beers at our brewery, 4x4 Brewing, and we'll catch you later.
Thanks a lot, guys.
You're awesome.
dan friesen
Shout out to these shit on cities in the all over.
All the places that people look down on.
Shout out.
And shout out to 4x4 Brewing.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Not sponsored, but give them a look.
It's a wonk brewery.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm definitely going to a wonk brewery if I'm in Springfield.
dan friesen
When are you ever going to be in Springfield?
jordan holmes
Ah, you never know.
dan friesen
I was in Springfield.
jordan holmes
Maybe we'll have to escape from cities because they're obsolete now.
dan friesen
Well, Springfield's still a city.
Yeah.
Not a Chicago city.
jordan holmes
It's a township.
Come on.
dan friesen
I was in Springfield maybe five years ago.
Yeah.
I think.
Probably.
It was fun.
I went to do a show with friends Dan Sheehan and Tyler Snodgrass.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, great guys.
dan friesen
Yeah, I went down to I don't remember the name of the place.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, if you're a fan of the game, Yakov showed up.
dan friesen
Yeah, Yakov.
jordan holmes
You got a little Yakov?
dan friesen
He and Tyler Snodgrass are friends.
And so Yakov Smirnoff showed up, and I did not say hi to him.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on.
In our country, we say hi to you, Dan.
dan friesen
I told this story before, I think.
But he was being bumrushed by tons of people who were wanting an autograph and stuff.
And I just felt like it would be shitty.
But I gave him a look from across the room, and I think he got it.
jordan holmes
A little pregnant hello look.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Hey, Tech.
I just have so much stuff I got to get to that I don't know if I can cover it all in this phone call, so I'm not going to get to any of it.
But I did want to say, Jordan, that you had mentioned recording an audiobook for your book, The Quiet Part Loud.
And I was going to say I really appreciate the audio format.
Thank you.
dan friesen
People appreciate the audio format.
jordan holmes
I'm working on it.
I'm working on it.
dan friesen
It's a process.
jordan holmes
It is very hard.
It's very hard.
There are a lot of choices that I didn't realize that I was going to have to make because of the way I write dialogue and how it's impossible to kind of keep track of.
dan friesen
It's hard.
jordan holmes
It is hard.
It's very hard.
But I'm working on it.
It's happening.
It will happen.
That's good.
It will.
I promise you.
dan friesen
That's good for the people to know.
And for now, they can find your book at quietpartloud.com.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
So that nice little plug in there.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
unidentified
Hi, Dan and Jordan.
This is Bob Hartzel from St. Louis.
I sent you some posters a couple months ago.
First off, I want to say do not accidentally dial 1-800 for cat guys.
That is not the right number.
And number two, Dan, you mentioned your brother and the art he does and how proud you are of him.
And that reminded me that my brother, who was always an engineer when we were kids, has gone on to make a political strip called Middle Age Riot.
It's on Instagram and Facebook.
And I think he would really enjoy it.
I'm really proud of the work he's done on that.
I also wanted to thank you for the shout-out earlier in the summer.
It's been a rough summer, and that really helped make it.
Keep up the good work.
Talk to you later.
dan friesen
Thank you, Bob.
If you notice, look around.
unidentified
We've got a couple of the prints up on the wall here in the studio.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Pretty cool.
jordan holmes
Yep, very good.
dan friesen
I went and checked out this Middle Age Riot.
Some fun jokes there.
Good jokes?
I didn't have time to look through a whole ton of it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But yeah, it looks really awesome.
Everybody's getting free rides.
jordan holmes
It does seem like we're not sponsored, but it seems like we're doing a lot of sponsored content.
dan friesen
I don't actually mind that so much.
The idea that people call in and say some cool project or something that maybe people could take.
jordan holmes
If you call in and say that you're really happy with your bank and you really love Chase Bank, then you're not going to get a not going to happen.
dan friesen
I mean, eventually we will have to figure out a line in terms of that, but I think we're on the right side of it for now.
jordan holmes
So far, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, thank you all for the calls.
Thank you all for listening.
We will be back next time.
unidentified
Indeed.
dan friesen
Yep.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at KnowledgeJonders Gorvey and I go to BetJordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook if you dial.
And if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area and help out people doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
I am a guy jumping out of a helicopter at Lake Travis.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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