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Sept. 9, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
01:28:06
#479: The Devil Went Down To Kiev

Today, Dan and Jordan take a Wacky Wednesday break to explore a recent interview that Sweary Kerry did with someone who may or may not be Jean-Claude Van Damme. In this installment, the gents learn about Tesla, whether or not Kerry's tried to get on Banned dot Video, and how bad the CIA's severance package really is.

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dan friesen
41:48
j
jordan holmes
21:14
k
kerry cassidy
15:43
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alex jones
00:45
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andy in kansas
00:03
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge.
Fight.
Need.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your world.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
kerry cassidy
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Why don't you go first?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is...
I haven't talked about it, but as you know, right around when the whole pandemic started up again...
I started smoking a little bit.
dan friesen
Talking about trees?
jordan holmes
Talking about cigarettes.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
I used those to help regulate some stress, and I finally quit again.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Three days without any cigarettes at all, so that's my bright spot to finally get back off that crutch for me.
dan friesen
That's great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I feel very good.
dan friesen
I bet you won't.
jordan holmes
No, I'm sorry.
I'm really proud of myself.
That's so shitty of me.
You asked me to take the scenic route today, and my brain was like, oh, well, this is the perfect time to go buy a pack of cigarettes.
dan friesen
Isn't it weird how the world works like that?
jordan holmes
I didn't do it.
dan friesen
Whenever you need to be tempted, the universe is like, eh?
I was running a little late, so I told you to take the scenic route over here.
jordan holmes
Nobody will even know.
You're not going to be late.
dan friesen
I'm really sorry for my defeat.
No, don't worry about it.
But it is good.
It's great.
I mean, I know that we're still smoking vapes and all, and it's probably not all that much better for health.
Probably not.
But, you know, there's no ash.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you know, you do the best you can.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
What else do you want from us?
dan friesen
We get by.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So I guess for me, my bright spot is the other day I went over to a flower and plant shop because I just wanted to walk around amidst my people.
Which is the plant shop employees and also the plants.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course.
dan friesen
I wanted to look for cool inspiration to see if there was anything that really stuck out to me or something that looks like, oh, that might be fun to try and grow or make good decor around on the walls.
And I realized there was an anthurium flower, and I treated myself to one.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's very nice.
dan friesen
A little tiny anthurium.
jordan holmes
Oh, it almost looks fake.
dan friesen
Yeah, they do.
They have a really waxy flower.
I don't know if those are native to Hawaii, but I really associate them with...
My childhood?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
It's just a cool-looking flower that I've always really liked.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I decided, fuck it, I'm gonna drop ten bucks.
And get one to put on my desk.
And it brightens my desk up quite a bit.
I've got this cool little weird-looking, almost alien flower.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
It is great.
dan friesen
And I do feel a little bad that I didn't grow it from a seed, but maybe one day.
Maybe one day I'll grow an ampharium.
jordan holmes
Maybe this one will give you a seed to grow it from.
alex jones
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know if those have seeds.
It looks fake, so maybe...
dan friesen
Fake seeds.
jordan holmes
Maybe you need a clipping.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
You know, you need a clipping and then you put that in the thing.
I've heard clipping before.
I genuinely have no idea what it is.
dan friesen
Look, I'm a ways down this road.
unidentified
I don't understand clippings either, so don't ask me.
jordan holmes
I was like, that's a word.
I've heard that in context.
dan friesen
Yeah.
In context.
jordan holmes
Why not?
Give it a go.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode of our here podcast to go over, but before we get down to business on any of that...
We're going to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Dan C. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Dan!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Tedwin T. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Tedwin.
dan friesen
Tedwin-y.
Teddy?
Tedwin-y?
jordan holmes
Tedwin-y.
dan friesen
Next, Kite M. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Kite.
dan friesen
Thanks, Kite.
Next, Cira, C-I-R-A, our last initial D. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Cira.
dan friesen
Thank you, Cira.
Next, Benjamin D. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Ben.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Preston S. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thanks.
jordan holmes
Preston!
dan friesen
I go.
Next, Charlie H. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Charlie.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on Elevated Level.
Appreciate that very much.
So, Tim D., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
unidentified
That's fantastic.
alex jones
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Tim.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, Tim.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support with these gents, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or...
jordan holmes
What you could do is you could take that generous spirit and you could...
Put it in an empty cigarette pack.
Grab that.
Decide never to buy another cigarette pack again.
So instead, you take that generosity down to your local...
Cigarette disposal store.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Which many people would consider a charity.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
And then you donate it away from there.
So recycling, you get five cents back on that in Michigan, Iowa.
dan friesen
Here's what's interesting about the difference between you and me.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
You don't end something like that self-consciously.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
You don't end that with like, oh, I really, really missed that one.
jordan holmes
Nope.
I swing, and if I miss, you miss.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sometimes you get it.
dan friesen
And then you pretend you still got a hit.
jordan holmes
Hey!
Hey, man.
dan friesen
In the box.
jordan holmes
Or it's an E, but that still counts.
dan friesen
For me, it's...
Nah, I struck out, man.
Can't pretend otherwise.
jordan holmes
The best improvisers get it good one out of every three times.
That's basically right.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, you might be noticing a black box here in front of me.
jordan holmes
I do.
Why don't they make the whole plane out of it?
dan friesen
This is something that I took out of the old mailbag, Zia.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And on top of this black box, I found what appears to be...
Looks like a ransom.
jordan holmes
Oh, that is very much...
dan friesen
Cut out clippings from magazines saying, hello, tat guys.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, that's not great.
dan friesen
And we look inside.
I'd like to present you with this one-of-a-kind gift as a tiny token of my appreciation for the bajillion hours of entertainment, useful insight, and ammunition for the many arguments I somehow end up in.
I can guarantee with about 92% certainty that this is probably the only one in existence, but I can't account for parallel universes, parentheses, yet.
So that's just to err on the side of caution.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
This is a GIF from Policy Wonk Emperor Checks the Flatulence Royal Subject Ryan.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We open it up here.
jordan holmes
Are we all technically subjects of him?
Oh, that's a tiny bullhorn.
dan friesen
We've got a tiny bullhorn.
jordan holmes
That is tyranny slapper!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Oh, we can't get the bullhorn.
Oh, shit!
We've got a tiny bullhorn.
dan friesen
Jordan, we've got a tiny bullhorn.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Tiny bullhorn for the podcast.
So...
jordan holmes
Oh, this is another way that you're going to screw me over, isn't it?
dan friesen
From now on, I'm going to do the podcast through this megaphone.
There's a tiny bullet.
Let me enter the park.
jordan holmes
Let's see, I'm a fan of this podcast with a beautiful, sonorous voice.
How can I ruin that part of the show and make both of them screechy and annoying?
dan friesen
I insist on going to Barton Springs.
unidentified
You teenage globalists.
jordan holmes
Tiny Bullhorn sounds more like one of those vocal...
What are they?
Masks.
dan friesen
Tiny Bullhorn, Tiny Bullhorn.
Oh, I thought you meant a vocal warm-up.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
This also apparently plays music.
So yeah, this is Tyranny Slapper.
It's got an image of a guy putting a hand on a face as if to be annoyed.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Like, ugh.
Got a nice rainbow hand...
What would that be called?
Keychain?
Like a wrist...
jordan holmes
Dongle?
dan friesen
Yeah, something to attach to your wrist so you don't lose the tiny bullhorn.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's got Alex's face.
unidentified
It does.
jordan holmes
His screaming face on the part where the bad sound comes from.
dan friesen
The noise comes out of.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And a little certificate of authenticity that certifies the one and only tyranny slapper you have received as authentic and is guaranteed to carry the blessing of the Alex Jones and the Small Bullhorn Society.
Parentheses, SBS.
And then there's a little asterisk.
Guarantee not to be guaranteed.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Ryan, holy shit.
jordan holmes
Laissez-faire attitude towards tiny bullhorns, but I accept it.
unidentified
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
That is fantastic.
dan friesen
What a cool...
jordan holmes
That is...
dan friesen
I'm blown away by the thought and the creativity.
Just amazing.
Thank you so much, Ryan.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I'm going to probably annoy the shit out of Jordan.
jordan holmes
Almost certainly.
dan friesen
The next...
unidentified
Good long while.
dan friesen
And you know what?
I think...
jordan holmes
He's a dick!
dan friesen
I think I would be right to do that.
alex jones
Dan, I agree with you.
dan friesen
Thank you, Alex.
jordan holmes
I was waiting for at least one drop.
I knew one drop was coming.
dan friesen
Something was coming.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Well, Jordan, that's quite a trip into the mailbag.
Yes.
So here, we're going to embark on this adventure here today, and I don't know how to do this other than just to play this out-of-context drop for you.
kerry cassidy
I have a very good resonator.
I can tell when something's true and when it's not.
And it really has served me over the years, you know, time and time again.
dan friesen
Time and time again!
Ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes
And we have returned!
dan friesen
I wanted to...
jordan holmes
Like King Arthur, Dan!
dan friesen
We have returned to Camelot!
I wanted to play Reunited and it feels so good, but I think there might be legal issues with that.
jordan holmes
We don't have an ASCAT agreement.
dan friesen
No, I don't think we have the rights.
But, Jordan, it turns out that I think that these episodes are going back onto YouTube.
jordan holmes
They are really doing it, aren't they?
dan friesen
Getting out from the paywall, as it were.
And my largest...
The problem with covering Project Camelot episodes for Wacky Wednesdays in the future was a rights issue.
I respected her copyright or whatever.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
If you sell something, if you put something behind a paywall, I don't think it's right for me to take that and critique it, even if it would be fair use.
I'm still going to respect that.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
The fact that this was on the public YouTube channel.
jordan holmes
All you needed to hear.
dan friesen
We are back in business, baby.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, today, what we have is an interview that Carrie did.
Swear to Carrie Cassidy over at Project Camelot.
The idea for newer listeners of our show is that as we did the podcast for the months at the beginning, we started to realize that it's really ugly and gross.
jordan holmes
Taxing on your mind.
dan friesen
Listening to Alex Jones and talking about him all the time is not something that is really advisable on any level.
So we need to take breaks.
And how we had it set up, there was a time when we were much better about it, but we were doing one out of the three episodes a week would be something silly.
jordan holmes
They were more silly times, I guess.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And even though the times are much worse and severe right now, there's still a call for silliness.
jordan holmes
You gotta find a way.
dan friesen
And so, this Wednesday, we are Wacky Wednesday-ing.
Last week, we got to hear a little bit more about Randy Kramer.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And his space piloting.
He's really good at it.
jordan holmes
Contract law, again.
dan friesen
Contract law.
Very important.
Today, we have an interview with Carrie.
It's where Carrie Cassidy did an interview with a guy named Jean-Claude.
No idea who this guy is.
No interest in looking into him at all.
jordan holmes
Is he Belgian?
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
unidentified
That would be so good if it was JCVD and he's just like...
dan friesen
It's not the muscles from Brussels.
I can tell you that.
jordan holmes
He's hiding his voice.
dan friesen
Throw a bullhorn?
You gotta tell your bullhorn.
jordan holmes
I have seats first!
dan friesen
Yeah, this is an interesting interview that covers, as Alex would say, covers the waterfront.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There's a lot of territory that we go over.
And honestly, I might have...
There's a couple things in here that made me like, we have to talk about this.
unidentified
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
One of them, actually I don't have a clip of, but at the beginning of the interview, Jean-Claude brings up Shadowgate.
Oh no!
jordan holmes
The water of waters?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Carrie doesn't respond, though, so I don't know what her thoughts on Shadowgate are, but if I find out, I will let you know.
jordan holmes
I would like to know if she has got some Shadowgate takes.
dan friesen
I'm guessing she loves it.
So, a lot of this has to do with COVID-19.
A lot of it has to do with the news.
Vampires are out the window.
We're no longer concerned that the virus is turning people into vampires.
kerry cassidy
You know what?
jordan holmes
Our news...
Our news show is now a televangelism the devil's real show, and our space weirdo show is now all about the news?
dan friesen
Well, not really.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's fair.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It touches on news-related topics.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
But has a different spin on some of them.
So, Carrie talks about this, and it's gone from, like, COVID-19's virus and maybe turning Chinese people into vampires.
Yeah.
That's why houses are boarded up.
jordan holmes
I have not heard confirmation nor denial about that yet, so it is still up in the air.
dan friesen
His silence is deafening.
jordan holmes
He can't talk.
He's been hypnotized by a vampire.
dan friesen
So it turns out now there's just no virus.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And it has to do with, of course, frequencies and 5G, but also other things.
Yeah.
kerry cassidy
I'm putting a...
A link between COVID and what we call frequencies.
And that involves scalar weapons of all levels.
And so we're talking about what is...
Involved in weather wars and targeting individuals.
So it's an escalation from there.
And in this case, we're talking about whole cities.
dan friesen
So they're attacking whole cities with these scalar weapons.
jordan holmes
Real quick.
dan friesen
Which really raises the question of why are only some people in those cities right?
jordan holmes
Real quick.
I feel like I've been rude.
Hi, Carrie!
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, there was an introduction.
I apologize.
Jean-Claude rambles a bit in the introduction, and so there wasn't a good way for us to...
I apologize that I deprived you of that opportunity.
jordan holmes
It's just politeness.
It's just basic politeness.
dan friesen
I think I cut out a clip.
I think I missed the clip because it was in the middle of something extraneous, but she mentions that obelisks are being put up around the world for the sake of this scalar attack thing that's going on.
jordan holmes
Is there any more intimidating shape than an obelisk?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Terrifying.
jordan holmes
It's really a terrifying shape.
It's pointing at the top.
You don't even know.
dan friesen
If you fall on it, you're dead.
jordan holmes
You're dead!
dan friesen
So, there is no virus, apparently.
We'll get to that here in a little bit.
But there are a bunch of doctors who are taking things, right?
And then they're saying that it's COVID.
It's basically the same sort of narrative that Alex has.
It's the common cold, and if you test positive for the cold, you're gonna get it.
jordan holmes
94% of deaths are from...
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And the way that Carrie points to a source on this should give you an indication of how little she gives a shit.
unidentified
Okay.
kerry cassidy
What it's all about is understanding how doctors review your symptoms, and the symptoms are always more or less the same.
The symptoms go anywhere on a gamut from, you know, fever, cold type symptoms, flu-like symptoms, even, you know, sickness to the stomach and so on.
But it's all akin to radiation sickness.
So we even had a doctor in New York who's actually, I think, completely disappeared off the scene.
And it may be that he was, in essence...
threatened, I'm not sure what.
unidentified
Did you reach for comment?
kerry cassidy
And I don't have his name in front of me.
But he was quite prevalent around March, I think it was.
And he came forward quite innocently, a New York doctor in...
I think he was actually dealing with emergency stuff, and he was saying that people were having trouble breathing, that it was much more of a kind of a...
Radiation sickness or high altitude sickness type of symptoms and that the ventilators weren't working as a consequence.
And so this is very important.
dan friesen
Really doesn't sweat the details there.
jordan holmes
She sounds exactly like my mom trying to remember Thomas Hardy's name.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He was in, it was the one, okay, no, no, it was around 2000 sometime.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The people that are asleep.
unidentified
They were asleep!
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were sleeping, and then they slept more inside their sleep?
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's got a coat on.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's always wearing a mask, but sometimes he's not wearing a mask.
unidentified
He talks like this in one movie.
jordan holmes
I heard he was an expert at something.
dan friesen
So there's this doctor guy.
I don't know his name.
He disappeared.
unidentified
He's probably being threatened because of making that up.
jordan holmes
He's probably being threatened.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
I didn't even try and Google him for this, but he's probably being threatened.
dan friesen
That doctor is named Cameron Kyle Sedell.
jordan holmes
You got that from her description?
dan friesen
Yeah, I remember this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I mean, she's not making up something.
She's lying about everything around him.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
His revelations, if they are so important, you'd really think that Carrie would remember his name or any of the relevant details for his story.
jordan holmes
He might be a hero.
dan friesen
Maybe, according to her.
In April, Kyle Seidel posted a YouTube video where he discussed how some of the patients he's seen with COVID-19 were not responding well to being put on ventilators.
At that point, there was way less known about the condition, and people were presenting with acute respiratory distress syndrome, which is treated with a ventilator.
What Kyle Seidel was pointing out was that the lung muscles of typical ARDS patients were malfunctional, which guided the protocols of how the ventilators were programmed.
The concern was that because the patients did not need the same pressure that traditional ARDS patients did, damage could be being done accidentally by the method of treatment that was used.
That was the concern that he was bringing up.
jordan holmes
In your research, did you see if he has been threatened and fallen off the face of the earth?
dan friesen
No, I can't tell that for sure either way, because Carrie's making it up.
But when he came out, his video was covered by news outlets.
You can find articles about the things he brought up in Time, WebMD, Medscape, and plenty of other places.
There wasn't a cover-up, but that's what the right-wing and conspiracy folks pretended was going on.
They pretended that he was blowing the whistle and saying this is all a sham and the ventilators are killing people, when that wasn't his point.
His point was that the settings that are the typical protocol for ventilators may need to be reconsidered in the context of COVID-19 patients.
In May, he spoke with News 12 about his decision to make the video, and his main point seemed to be that what was needed is a personalized approach to patients, which is probably not too helpful for Carrie, which is why she conveniently can't remember details about this guy.
jordan holmes
That is very convenient, isn't it?
dan friesen
She has a vested interest in reminding the listener of how the right-wing reporting about that story made them feel, but to actually engage with the story itself is dangerous.
It's fun for Carrie to suggest that Dr. Kyle Sedell disappeared.
But he has absolutely no reason to suggest that.
He hasn't posted any more videos on his YouTube channel, but he also never posted anything before that video, so that doesn't seem too weird.
Doesn't seem like he's disappeared, though, since he still maintains an active Twitter account that's posted a lot about his feelings about COVID-19 as recently as today!
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think he's still fine.
I think he's doing alright.
jordan holmes
Probably.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
So, so much of right-wing anger is really just boiled down to just like...
I don't understand your words!
They don't mean what I think they mean!
Why do you talk different if we're speaking English?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, you might ask yourself, like, okay, so these scalar weapons, or whatever, these targeting of cities, how is this done?
jordan holmes
How is that done?
I've always wondered.
dan friesen
Well...
There's one name from history you can always pull up.
jordan holmes
Cleopatra?
dan friesen
Nope.
kerry cassidy
They can target population centers from a distance.
And this gets into Tesla and his Wardenclyffe Tower.
unidentified
There we go.
kerry cassidy
And what I talk about is Tunguska and how he was aiming for, I believe it was a place in, I think it was Antarctica, and it actually was something like 2,000 miles off.
Then I get into the fact that it was probably redirected so that they knew what he was doing and in the process they made use of that for a different purpose.
And I can get into all that.
I mean, I packed a lot into my article.
dan friesen
No shit.
jordan holmes
I didn't know this.
Tesla was the cause of the Tunguska?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
I didn't know that.
dan friesen
You haven't read all of the files in the Assassin's Creed games.
Because that is a plot point.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
Well, apparently.
It's in the Assassin's Creed wiki.
I know that much.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
This is all fun and games, or Carrie is trying to suggest that the villains of her story are using Tesla technology to direct remote attacks at cities, which are what COVID-19 actually is or something.
And her proof of this is that Tesla accidentally shot some beam at the North Pole and it got redirected by someone who was able to redirect Tesla beams and ended up causing...
jordan holmes
Zuko learned how to redirect Tesla beams, I'm pretty sure.
dan friesen
I love it.
And if you're trying to weave a fun story, this is great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it doesn't work.
jordan holmes
It is fantastic.
dan friesen
It doesn't work out.
jordan holmes
Why is Tesla hitting...
Anything.
dan friesen
No, because he was trying to make his death ray.
jordan holmes
He's testing it on Antarctica.
He's trying to make his peace ray.
Gotcha, gotcha.
Okay, okay.
Now I get why he's...
I forgot that Tunguska is a redirection.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, gotcha.
dan friesen
There's some problems.
First, the Tunguska event happened in June 1908.
While it is true that Wardenclyffe was a really exciting place around 1901, in the few years after that...
Tesla's work was really being outpaced by Marconi in terms of his work on radio waves.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And funding was really flowing in that direction and away from Tesla.
By 1906, two years prior to Tunguska, work had ended at Warden Cliff.
But of course, none of that matters because it's just a cover-up version of the story, probably.
Kerry can just get around and be like, oh no, that's just what they wanted.
jordan holmes
They had to give you the public going out of business sale in order to then move all the stuff into government.
Government control in secret.
Yeah, not hard.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
We're going to find out where this comes from later.
unidentified
Is it literally Assassin's Creed?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Also, have you read all the notes files in Assassin's Creed?
dan friesen
I told you I found it on the wiki.
It's on the Assassin's Creed wiki.
jordan holmes
I didn't ask you where you found it.
dan friesen
No, I don't read.
Look, there was a time in my life where I probably was the kind of person who would read everything in a game.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
In case it deepened the lore and stuff.
jordan holmes
Skyrim, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I could never have done that in Skyrim.
jordan holmes
Why would you?
dan friesen
Too many books.
jordan holmes
Too many books!
dan friesen
But, no, no.
Since I've become an adult, I don't think I have time for that.
So, Carrie gets into some interesting, deep...
COVID denialism, which actually leads to medicine denialism.
jordan holmes
Okay, we're done with all of it.
dan friesen
All of it.
jordan holmes
All of it.
kerry cassidy
Numerous doctors who basically would admit they are involved in virology, as Judy is, obviously.
dan friesen
Judy McCovitz.
unidentified
Yeah.
kerry cassidy
And they will tell you they have never isolated any virus associated with COVID.
So what does that tell you?
That tells you that...
jordan holmes
They weren't working on that?
kerry cassidy
First of all, there's no contagion whatsoever.
You can throw that out right away.
unidentified
Oh, that's nice.
kerry cassidy
It even questions, I mean, it gets down to questioning the whole premise of what you call virology.
dan friesen
Fuck it.
kerry cassidy
That has to do with, have they been able to isolate any virus?
And if so, how did they do that?
And according to Dr. Young, they've never done that for any virus.
There's also this germ theory, the whole thing can be thrown out.
unidentified
Get rid of it!
jordan holmes
Get rid of it!
This whole germ theory thing, just get it out of here.
unidentified
Oh, interesting.
dan friesen
We've heard her hint at that before, but I've never heard her say that.
jordan holmes
She said you have to accept in any disease in your DNA.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's that sort of like turning up and creating sort of a moral character to disease and stuff.
She's danced around that line quite a bit.
But I don't think I've ever actually heard her say, like, germ theory out the window.
jordan holmes
I really feel like...
dan friesen
There are no viruses.
jordan holmes
Here's what we do, alright?
You know how you get free samples at the grocery store or if you're trying something?
Or you get to try the mattress for 100 days or whatever the fuck it is.
You know what?
Here's what we do.
Vaccines also have stations with polio and the cure for polio.
So you get polio...
For a couple weeks, you're like, holy shit, this is really bad.
And then they cure polio and you're like, it was a good idea to make a vaccine.
dan friesen
Well, some of the problems, some of the conditions that you need to be vaccinated for don't have cures.
jordan holmes
Well, see, now...
That's a kind of grab bag situation there.
You win some, you lose some.
dan friesen
It comes down to...
That seems to be a bad solution, I think.
jordan holmes
Like at Mariana's, there's just a bowl full of fucking syringes.
dan friesen
I don't think this is a good idea.
I think this is very not functional.
jordan holmes
Try one of these syringes.
dan friesen
You paint an interesting picture, but I think in the real world this would be trouble.
jordan holmes
I don't think it would work.
dan friesen
No.
So, just a quick rebuttal.
She's wrong.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not gonna throw away the whole germ theory.
dan friesen
No, and the whole idea of they've never isolated a virus is complete nonsense.
unidentified
Man!
dan friesen
I don't care who this Dr. Young character is.
jordan holmes
Never isolated.
Then why do we all have textbooks with literal drawings of fucking viruses in them?
dan friesen
Why do you have tons and tons of studies about isolating viruses?
jordan holmes
How many Nobel Prizes mean anything to her?
Does any Nobel Prize actually...
dan friesen
Only secret ones.
Oh, wow.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Maybe she likes the Nobel Prize in economics.
dan friesen
Look, germ theory...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Gone.
jordan holmes
Get it out of here.
Toss it.
dan friesen
Now, here's the thing.
jordan holmes
Like a drink in a bar.
dan friesen
According to Kerry, germ theory goes back to Louis Pasteur, right?
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
But...
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There's another guy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Right?
And this is who Kerry subscribes to.
unidentified
All right.
kerry cassidy
This germ theory, the whole thing can be thrown out.
It goes back to Louis Pasteur, but there was another scientist at the time that had discovered a much more substantial way of looking at human health and what's going on.
But the bottom line is that it comes from within us, so that we generate the corona effect around ourselves, which is like...
It is expelling poisons, acids.
And that creates corona and makes it difficult to breathe.
So it obstructs breathing.
And this is where that comes in.
And it's all about the poisons that our cell is expelling because we're in a poisonous or exposed to a poisonous environment.
dan friesen
Who is the other guy?
jordan holmes
Who is this guy?
No, who is the other guy?
Well, there was another scientist.
Who?
Who just took a more, you know, like, broad view.
unidentified
Who?
Freud?
What do you want?
dan friesen
Does not sweat the details.
jordan holmes
Who invented Gestalt Theory?
Was that Jung?
Like, what are we doing here?
dan friesen
Look, I mean, someone who studied this stuff from, like, textbooks might be able to tell you relevant figures' names, talk about...
More concrete things about what they've done.
But that's not how Carrie works.
kerry cassidy
I'm delving into this now.
I also get psychic downloads.
So I got a psychic download that the towers they were installing were going to be using Tesla tech.
So from there, I kind of went backwards.
And then also...
A certain person referred me to a book by a guy named John Case, who did a tremendous amount of research around Tesla, and he cites all his documentation in the very back of the book.
But it's fiction.
So he fictionalized a story of a so-called terrorist who wanted to use Tesla tech.
In fact...
Mirror, basically, the Wardenclyffe Tower and what happened with Tenguska and do it in this country.
dan friesen
Here's where I end the interview.
unidentified
Where?
jordan holmes
Where?
Where do you end the interview?
What do you find objectionable about that?
dan friesen
Okay, first, psychic downloads.
jordan holmes
Now, does she go to the Pirate Bay for that?
dan friesen
We're going to need to do a lot more, like, if that's what you're citing as your source, I can't accept that.
jordan holmes
Is that in a...
What kind of file?
Is that a zip file?
dan friesen
And then I got...
Drawn to Tesla stuff, and I read a book that's fiction about Tesla's Wardenclyffe towers.
jordan holmes
But he cites all of his documents at the end, but it's fiction.
Ah, come on.
Come on!
This is what you entertain as being possible, and even, you know, like a reasonable thought in a different world.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Who's the first person who got it, though, and why?
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
I mean, if this is something that comes from inside of you.
dan friesen
The psychic stuff?
jordan holmes
No, the corona effect.
If the corona effect comes from inside of you and your cells are expelling poison...
dan friesen
Yeah, but it also has something to do with these obelisks and towers.
Right.
Things are being sent to it from Wardenclyffe Tower or whatever.
Like, miles and miles away, the globalists or evildoers and her...
Whatever parlance she uses this week.
They are the ones who are shooting beams to these obelisks and 5G towers that are then creating within you...
Wouldn't that be a germ?
jordan holmes
I want to say that's physically, not physically, but functionally germ theory.
dan friesen
Well, radiation poisoning is not a germ.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
So how is it spreading?
It can't spread from person to person because it's spreading from obelisk to obelisk.
dan friesen
That's what she believes.
So, Carrie was drawn to reading this book about Tesla ideas or something.
jordan holmes
We should open up a store called Tesla's Tech.
This is a sidebar.
You and me, we're going to sell tech.
dan friesen
I should start a store called Shut Up About Tesla.
If someone comes in and wants to talk about Elon Musk, shut up.
unidentified
Get out.
jordan holmes
Shut up about Tesla!
dan friesen
If someone wants to come in and talk about Nikola Tesla, shut up.
Get out.
I just tell people to leave.
jordan holmes
Every scientist in the history, just, hey, don't even get me started on germ theory.
You can throw that out with Elon Musk.
dan friesen
I could probably get a grant to start this storefront.
jordan holmes
I think it would be great work.
dan friesen
So Carrie talks a little bit more about what she's discovered about Tesla's death ray that caused Tunguska.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And, boy.
If I hadn't ended the interview by now, this would have been...
jordan holmes
This is the one.
dan friesen
Fucking get out.
kerry cassidy
This is the one, huh?
Instantaneously, virtually, when you flip a switch somewhere, the beam, wherever it hits, it's going to happen there exactly at that moment.
So there's no downtime between the flipping of the switch and the occurrence.
That's one thing.
And the other thing is that according to at least what he investigated, Is that the Tesla experiment was, of course, as a scientist, Tesla was writing down when he was doing his experiment,
and his exact time for flipping the switch, so to speak, on his Wardenclyffe tower and aiming the beam, where he thought was an unpopulated area of Antarctica, ended up to be going.
Was redirected and ended up in Siberia and caused Tenguska.
jordan holmes
That really sounds right.
kerry cassidy
Now he believed that was his doing, and Tenguska happened at the exact same moment as the moment that he flipped his switch.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
kerry cassidy
So if you want to say, okay, it's just a coincidence, but there are no coincidences, I would say.
dan friesen
This is from that book.
This is from that fiction book.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I have a very serious question here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I'm interested to know, because we do have plenty of physicists who have corrected me in the past, but is it possible to shoot a laser that accounts for the curvature of the Earth and still lands back?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I have no idea, but what I do know is those journals that she's bringing up are a plot device in the thriller novel that she read.
This is like somebody believing that Dan Brown shit's literally true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it is literally true.
Look, have you ever seen Nicolas Cage?
dan friesen
I think Leo Zagami does.
Yeah, because it's true.
Why do you think they keep the Constitution?
jordan holmes
Underneath the White House.
dan friesen
This is all from a 2006 thriller novel called Ghost Dancer.
It was written by someone named John Case, but weirdly, Carrie doesn't seem to be aware that John Case isn't a person.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
It's a pen name that was used by a husband and wife writer team named Jim and Carolyn Hogan.
So she doesn't even realize that.
jordan holmes
They sound like very nice people.
dan friesen
Yeah, they wrote a bunch of sort of Da Vinci Code-esque thriller novels.
unidentified
Good for them!
jordan holmes
That sounds fun!
I hope a religion is built around it.
dan friesen
So Carrie has taken Tesla's secret journals that they...
Villain in that novel finds and is treating them like historical documents that are being transferred through this thriller novel.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
What better way to hide the real journals than in a fiction novel, Dan?
dan friesen
It's perfect.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
And if you take the first letter of each page, you'll find where they're located.
dan friesen
Well, I am not convinced.
But thankfully...
Carrie has more evidence.
It comes in the form of confirmation from another weirdo we've talked about in the past.
kerry cassidy
This is a completely independent situation.
dan friesen
Sorry, I forgot to point out.
This is Courtney Brown, the remote viewer guy.
His team of remote viewers have consulted with Carrie about Tungusku.
unidentified
Okay, that's good.
That's good.
kerry cassidy
You know, my research is my research, and they're doing their thing.
So it just so happened that they decided to...
Take that target and look at it.
And what they found was, at least the remote viewers seemed to agree, that there was actually an alien battle taking place in the area of Tunguska.
That exact time and place.
When they don't even talk about Tesla or his being.
So they're not aware of that link-up.
But, obviously, Tesla is aware of it.
jordan holmes
In the present tense?
kerry cassidy
But what's interesting is that we know that Tesla was in touch with ETs.
dan friesen
I gotta go.
unidentified
I gotta go I I I do like the...
jordan holmes
Look, the remote viewers confirmed, obviously, the alien battle.
But they didn't know...
Tesla blew it up!
dan friesen
Yeah, the alien battle was ended by someone redirecting Tesla's ray that happened to coincidentally be being fired at a test at the exact same time.
That's a lot of coincidences.
There are no coincidences, Dan.
Carrie's already told us.
jordan holmes
It was God's plan.
dan friesen
God, I wish that...
I mean, actually, I take that back.
I absolutely do not wish that I could read...
And just assume...
jordan holmes
And just believe they were real?
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be really troubling.
jordan holmes
That would be a little difficult.
dan friesen
So, although it appears to me that, much like Alex, Carrie is taking pieces of fiction and weaving them into a fantastical narrative about real life, that's not how she sees things.
kerry cassidy
All of this is, in my world, documented and backed up.
jordan holmes
In my world is doing a lot of work in that sense.
kerry cassidy
But for the general populace, of course, they know nothing and they choose to know nothing about this.
dan friesen
That's why I do these episodes.
That condescending attitude is why I do this.
jordan holmes
Tesla blew up.
Tungusku.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
By accident.
And the real people don't even want to know these things, Dan.
dan friesen
I would probably, at this point, it's fun to hear some of these ideas and dance around them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But there's a point at which it's like, alright, are we doing this again?
jordan holmes
We got it.
dan friesen
You say wild things.
I can't handle people being like, you normie.
You haven't read this 2006 thriller novel.
You don't get psychic downloads.
It's condescending.
It's rude.
It's really rude.
I resent it.
jordan holmes
I like it, though.
I kind of like that attitude of like, ah, you idiots.
You don't even know that aliens are fighting in Tungusku and Tesla accidentally hit him with his death ray.
You're so stupid.
You're so dumb for not knowing that aliens had a battle in Tungusku.
dan friesen
I really don't like it.
I don't like that mentality at all.
It's hurtful.
So Jean-Claude comes in here.
jordan holmes
Alright, good.
unidentified
I've been waiting.
dan friesen
Muscles from Brussels.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
And he wants to talk about QAnon.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And he has an idea of what's going on here.
And if he's right, which I don't think he is, I'm scared.
unidentified
Maybe going back a couple, you know, 20 years or two decades and all these generals being fired in America and then banding together to get into what we have now in the phenomena of Q, the Trump alliance, these timelines that we're in now.
So maybe let's set up for folks here your understanding, Kerry, of...
How this America First Generals group got started.
Why they were pushed out of the government.
dan friesen
So, according to Jean-Claude, he has this idea that these Q folks are old generals who got fired who have now concocted a plot to overthrow the government.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Seems bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that doesn't sound good at all.
dan friesen
Seems terrifying.
jordan holmes
That's the guy you like, though, right?
That's the ones that they're on the side of.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
So do you...
That's not good.
dan friesen
Well, because the ones that they're against are trying to use the Tunguska-destroying Tesla ray to give you COVID.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you have to overthrow the government and install a fascist regime, otherwise you're going to get hit by a death ray.
dan friesen
It's either fascism or an obelisk.
Choose one or the other.
jordan holmes
They're terrifying.
unidentified
I gotta admit, maybe they're scarier than fascism.
dan friesen
So Carrie walks through this, and she starts by discussing how there are purges, oftentimes in leadership positions, when there's a turnover of administration.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Obviously, you get a new Secretary of State.
jordan holmes
You put your team in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, you get a new executive branch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So Carrie extends this a little further than I think it actually goes.
kerry cassidy
It's generally known that when Obama took office, he got rid of a lot of generals.
And there was a whole change-up on the military side.
Now, I think that goes on a lot whenever presidents take office, the new president stepping in.
There's a changing of the guard, if you might say, even in the intelligence agencies.
In fact, I've been told behind the scenes, secretly, that, and people maybe don't realize this, but...
For example, when a new president comes on board, they actually kill...
I know this is going to sound ludicrous, but apparently there's evidence for it.
And maybe they make it look like an accident.
But they kill a lot of the CIA agents that aren't on board with the new president.
Why?
dan friesen
Why would you ever do that?
Why would anyone...
Why would you ever work for the CIA?
I quit!
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, wait.
So I started here, and then the next day they said if the president changes, I die?
dan friesen
I don't like that at all.
Yeah, that sounds like a recipe for a toxic environment.
jordan holmes
It's a real negative work environment.
dan friesen
Let's say an election year is coming up.
You're aware, as somebody who's been with the agency for a while.
jordan holmes
You've watched friends die.
dan friesen
You have two choices.
Maybe you killed a friend.
jordan holmes
Maybe you killed a friend.
dan friesen
You have two choices.
You can either accept your death because you don't support the new president.
jordan holmes
You are a public servant.
dan friesen
Or you can pretend to support the president knowing that if you don't, you will be killed.
jordan holmes
He's a great guy.
Love him.
He's my favorite guy.
You know how great it is to work under regimes where if you at all make them angry, you die?
It's so fun!
dan friesen
But do you understand how, like, in that environment, almost everybody, I would assume, would just pretend to like the current president?
jordan holmes
I think you would like every president.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Equally.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And what that would lead to is a need for a department within the CIA to hunt down people who are pretending to like the president.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
You know what?
That's like regulatory capture.
You know?
It's like how the SEC has offices inside the same buildings that Goldman Sachs do.
You know?
You don't want your CIA hunter guys to be working in the same office as your CIA hunted guys.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just a recipe for disaster.
jordan holmes
That's just terrible.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I hear their softball teams are amazing, though.
dan friesen
I do like the idea that Carrie has heard this secretly behind the scenes.
There's evidence for it.
Maybe it sounds ludicrous, but also maybe there's accidents?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is...
I'm gonna need a lot of sources on this.
unidentified
If she knows about it, why isn't she dead?
dan friesen
She should be dead.
jordan holmes
They killed the CIA agents, who presumably know more about this stuff than her.
dan friesen
You'd think.
They're CIA agents.
jordan holmes
But they're like, ah, well, Carrie can have it.
We'll keep killing these CIA agents, of course.
unidentified
But let's just let Carrie have this one.
jordan holmes
It sounds too ludicrous.
dan friesen
This lady who's afraid of obelisks somehow can't get hurt.
But again, that goes back to this conception of super-poweredness and complete incompetence in your villains.
It's so necessary for all this.
jordan holmes
Overpowered and yet too idiotic to succeed in any possible fashion.
dan friesen
So, uh, this question that Jean-Claude had about these generals that go back all this time, it turns out there is some credence to that, according to Kerry.
And these good guys, they go back to John F. Kennedy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
So JFK, when he was president, he was uncorruptible or something.
And he realized...
unidentified
That doesn't sound right at all.
dan friesen
Yeah, come on.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right at all.
The mafia helped...
Sorry.
dan friesen
Jordan, if you're gonna get hung up on that...
jordan holmes
I know, there's no reason to continue.
dan friesen
If you're gonna get hung up on that, I'm gonna pull out the bullhorn.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
I'm gonna pull out the tiny bullhorn.
unidentified
I have been interrupting too much.
dan friesen
That's the nature of these episodes, though.
That's fair.
unidentified
So, John F. Kennedy, uncorruptible.
jordan holmes
Incorruptible.
dan friesen
His whole family, really.
Don't worry about it.
jordan holmes
So...
dan friesen
At that time, he realized that he couldn't trust the people in the, like, intelligence services and what have you, and so he started his own little operation where he was getting people reporting stuff to him on the secret.
jordan holmes
Dude, that's gonna get you killed.
dan friesen
Well, this is the beginning of Q. Right.
Essentially.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
It goes all the way back there, and there's been some lineage since.
unidentified
Gotcha.
kerry cassidy
As far as, it doesn't look as though the Kennedy family was able to be entrapped.
Okay, I'm saying that generally speaking.
But they were getting murdered on a regular basis, no doubt about that.
So at some point you would think, yes, that someone's got to read the writing on the wall and figure you're going to be a target, especially if you run for office.
That's a no-brainer.
dan friesen
What?
Joe Kennedy literally just ran for Senate after being in the House of Representatives since 2013.
When RFK was killed in 1968, Ted Kennedy was already in the Senate and would remain there until his death in 2009.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was there a long time.
dan friesen
The establishment was so scared of a Kennedy being in a position in government that they let him stay in the Senate for almost half a century.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but they did get to entrap most of the other Kennedys.
By her own logic, only Jack Kennedy was incorruptible.
dan friesen
And Robert.
jordan holmes
Wow, that's true.
That's why they had to kill him.
dan friesen
Right, right.
I don't know about this theory here.
I know that there's the Camelot connection between the Kennedys and Project Camelot, but...
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know if I buy all this.
So anyway, it gets into JFK Jr. realized that...
You know, he was gonna be killed, probably.
And so he faked his death with the plane crash, and he's been friends with Trump, and they concocted a plan decades back that has to do with all this shit.
We'll get more into that later.
jordan holmes
Here's my fantasy booking for conspiracy theory presidents who die.
Let's go with Harding.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
Come on, man!
He didn't even get to finish out his first three months.
Why did he die?
Everybody's like, oh, JFK, just because his head got shot.
This dude didn't even make it.
It could have been polonium poisoning.
Were there Warren G. Harding conspiracy theories?
dan friesen
Here's my conspiracy theory.
unidentified
What's that?
dan friesen
James Garfield had a beard.
Look me in the face.
Do you know if he had a beard or not?
jordan holmes
I do not know if he had a beard.
dan friesen
Neither do I. But my conspiracy theory is that he did.
jordan holmes
I want to say he didn't.
I want to say you didn't have beards in his time.
dan friesen
I refuse to look it up.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, that's way wrong.
You had so many weird-ass beards.
dan friesen
So, we get back to Q stuff a little bit later, but before then, Kerry has a really interesting theory about, you know, they're trying to take out Trump because he's working with these good folks who are against the Tesla rays being used to spread COVID and what have you.
Obelisks.
Obelisks.
And so they have all these conspiracies that they are doing, like with Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There's a conspiracy there, like Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But look, dude, there's so much more to it than that.
kerry cassidy
Biden and his son and everyone who's involved in the Ukraine, they're involved in a conspiracy.
And the real truth, by the way, to do with Ukraine is never come out.
To my way of thinking.
So it's not about oil.
It's not even about Russia.
It's about something in the Ukraine.
And I am sort of on that trail.
I know there's a mountain called that they think is where the devil lives in the Ukraine, which I've talked about on other updates that I've done.
But, you know, there's more here than meets the eye.
dan friesen
Thank God that Carrie's on the case.
Because I know that this case will not go unsolved as long as she's sniffing around.
Look, there's something more to this Ukraine situation.
unidentified
Maybe it's that there's a mountain where the devil lives.
jordan holmes
That's a fun hardy boy's way of looking at life.
Whatever's going on.
Ah, there's another explanation here.
I gotta get to the bottom of this.
dan friesen
It's probably the mountain where the devil makes his residence.
jordan holmes
That would make the most sense.
dan friesen
The literal Christian devil lives on that mountain.
jordan holmes
That would make the most sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that leads you to, I have to ask yourself, what?
Who's doing what to the devil with that mountain?
Who's protecting the devil mountain?
jordan holmes
Are they protecting the devil mountain?
dan friesen
Is someone trying to attack the devil mountain?
jordan holmes
Who wins in a fight?
The devil or a lot of aliens?
dan friesen
Who wins in a fight?
The devil or Johnny?
We all know it's Johnny.
jordan holmes
Who wins in a fight?
The devil or Kennedy?
dan friesen
It depends on Kennedy.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Look, I would say that this is stupid.
jordan holmes
For what reason?
dan friesen
It's really my speed of stupid, though.
I really enjoy the idea that, like, no, all this geopolitical trouble around Ukraine has to do with a mountain where the devil lives.
jordan holmes
One of the most obvious geopolitical troubles there's ever been.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's so...
One side Russia.
One side the EU.
Not hard.
Not hard.
dan friesen
And clear-cut resource issues.
Historical tensions.
Like, it makes...
It's not to say that it's simple.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's incredibly complicated.
dan friesen
But the fact that there's trouble makes sense.
unidentified
Obvious.
dan friesen
But you have to explain it with Devilman.
Mount Doom is there.
unidentified
Alright, cool.
jordan holmes
It's gotta be Mount Doom.
dan friesen
Yeah.
When I was in Greece back in 2007, me and my brother got...
jordan holmes
Tried to get rid of the one ring, of course.
dan friesen
Well, we succeeded.
That's why we're still here.
jordan holmes
Well, that's good.
dan friesen
No, we took a little day trip away from our parents, because our parents were along, and we went to some islands.
I believe it was on Noxos.
We took scooters around, and we found...
I don't know.
I might be mixing up memories.
jordan holmes
Don't worry about it.
dan friesen
I don't remember what island it was, but one of the islands had a cave where Zeus apparently lived.
jordan holmes
Yeah, cool.
dan friesen
He wasn't there.
jordan holmes
He wasn't there?
dan friesen
No.
And I suspect this mountain with the devil.
jordan holmes
That was Zeus's former home!
It's like Reagan and Dixon, Illinois.
dan friesen
It's the same thing.
So, we take a step back from geopolitical issues to more grounded things, like Carrie's ability to get her videos out.
Like I said, she's putting stuff back on the free YouTube feed, which is great for me, because I love hearing about Devil Mountain and all this other nonsense.
But...
Mic down for this, because she tried to put her videos up somewhere else.
jordan holmes
Oh no.
kerry cassidy
Although, by the way, let me just say, the banned video, I've been caught over there and they haven't even accepted me.
So, banned video, I'm not sure whose videos are being banned and whose aren't, okay?
dan friesen
Alex, you're being called out right now.
Carrie Cassidy has tried to get on banned.video.
jordan holmes
Carrie Cassidy is banned from banned.video.
Alex Jones is censoring...
Carrie Cassidy!
dan friesen
Why won't you allow her free speech?
jordan holmes
You coward!
You hypocritical coward!
dan friesen
How dare you?
jordan holmes
Let the truth out!
dan friesen
How dare you not post videos about Ukrainian Devil Mountains?
jordan holmes
How different is that?
dan friesen
Not very.
jordan holmes
Not very.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Toss it in there.
dan friesen
But, I mean, this is just more ammunition and the Alex's whole thing is a con game.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, ban.video.
Oh, David Icke, I'll give you a channel.
jordan holmes
Anybody can get on here.
dan friesen
Carrie, nah, I'm not gonna give you a...
Oh, wait, Millie, you made Shadowgate?
unidentified
You're gone.
jordan holmes
Ban from ban.video.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
Great!
So, we've mapped the human genome.
jordan holmes
No, we haven't.
dan friesen
We haven't?
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
I thought we did.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Are you sure?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, we have DNA.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Trying to find a point of agreement.
Would you say that your DNA is human?
jordan holmes
That's a loaded question.
Now that we're talking about Project Campbell, I'm not even there.
Of course it's not human.
I'm just trying to think about what it might be.
dan friesen
It's kind of a trick question.
Because your human DNA, as it turns out, is actually the combination of a bunch of aliens.
kerry cassidy
We are made up of 12 or more ET races, our DNA.
So we have inherited, actually if you want to look at it, the gifts of at least 12 ET races, meaning off-planet races.
Some of which have also settled...
What they call inner Earth and inside the planet.
So, civilizations that did come from off-world initially, but have been here for millennia, living inside the planet.
dan friesen
Yeah, fuck you, flat-earthers.
Carrie's a hollow-earther.
unidentified
Yes!
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
Okay, so then humans were constructed?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We were built.
We obviously didn't evolve.
dan friesen
I think a lot of the ancient alien stuff believes that.
We were played by Enlil and Enki as a slave race.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
The Anunnaki aliens.
jordan holmes
Oh, so we're going all the way back to Enki.
dan friesen
Yeah, you take the Sumerian texts from Eric Von Daniken.
You gotta do the Sumerian, yeah.
Zachariah Sitchin.
You get those.
We were created as a mining race because they needed something from Earth.
unidentified
Probably gold.
jordan holmes
Okay, so did animals evolve?
Is the theory of evolution true to her, just not applicable to humans?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I haven't heard her speak on that issue.
jordan holmes
I would like to know.
dan friesen
I would like to as well.
I'd also like to hear more about which version of Hollow Earth she believes in, because there's one that involves Nazis.
unidentified
Well, you know Nazis are going to be down there.
jordan holmes
Where else would they go?
America?
dan friesen
I'm interested, because I always did enjoy the Hollow Earth theories more than I liked the...
Flat Earth ones.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But I think that's only because Hollow Earth allows for there to be a magical realm.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's promise.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's promise within a Hollow Earth.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because you can find something in there.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
There's a reason it's hollow.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's probably all kinds of fun critters and animals running around.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if it's flat, it's boring as shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You mean I can see everything already?
There's no mystery?
dan friesen
There isn't another unexplored area on the map, as it were.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You know, it's like, okay, you're playing a video game.
And I remember when you told me a ways back to play Witcher, I was playing it, and I'm like, this map isn't as big as people say it was.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And then I realized I had to zoom out.
unidentified
Yeah.
I was like, this world is huge.
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
That would be what happens if you find out there's a hollow earth.
There's an entire inside to the earth.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Whereas flat earth, it doesn't open up anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's just an ice barrier or whatever.
jordan holmes
The best science fiction writers always have a hollow earth.
Somewhere along the line.
The worst science fiction writers have the flat earth because it's just a measure of your explorative spirit.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
I'm glad we're in agreement.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
She hasn't talked more about this.
That's unfortunate.
Trump and JFK Jr. have been collaborating for a long time and this is how we end up getting Q. John F. Kennedy Jr. and Trump teamed up many, many years ago before he so-called was killed.
kerry cassidy
And we're friends.
And so this is where you get this unity between Q Anon, which I firmly believe was at least inspired by John F. Kennedy Jr.
He may be running it as the top guy, but I don't know their makeup of how they're sort of...
Pecking order or hierarchy of whatever it is that they're doing with Ku Anon.
But I can definitely say that he's very involved there.
And it actually smacks of some of his style, if you will.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
What's his style?
jordan holmes
I have no idea what John F. Kennedy Jr.'s style was.
dan friesen
Poor grammar?
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
Weird sentences?
jordan holmes
Amateur play?
dan friesen
Bad predictions?
jordan holmes
That must suck to be Carrie and believe in the QAnon theory, because you can't make up your own hierarchy there.
You have to defer to the Q theory, right?
She can't just be like, I know this about Q, because then Q people will be like, you don't know shit.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think you can kind of play games with it a little bit.
It's so nebulous and unspecific that you can get away with a bit as long as you don't do what Alex does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can find your Q spot.
Yeah, yeah, I gotcha.
dan friesen
You can find your niche within the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Carrie discusses how we've always been getting screwed over by aliens throughout all our history.
jordan holmes
That really sounds true.
dan friesen
There has not been any time in our history that these aliens have not been fucking with us.
And this leads me to a conclusion that I don't think that they're that good at it.
jordan holmes
I don't think so either.
kerry cassidy
I don't know if there's any history at all in which we weren't being invaded on some level, or that the Earth wasn't invaded by various species that then intermarried and intermingled and were, you know, being interfered with, especially with regard to the Draco and the reptilians, because they're a marauding species that go from planet to planet, and that is what they do.
They conquer.
The existing beings on the planet, or any beings they come across.
And they are a master geneticist, so they wrap their own genetics into the, when they interfere, the way they interfere and influence is through genetics.
So, no different with Bill Gates and his whole genome program, it's a typical reptilian approach.
To health.
dan friesen
Typical reptilian.
I would suggest that...
unidentified
Is she being racist there?
dan friesen
It's hard to say.
jordan holmes
That's a stereotype of reptilians that I have heard in a lot of places.
dan friesen
It's hard to say.
I think that if we imagine the reptilians to be this marauding force across the universe that just takes over things...
I would think that by now they would have given up.
Because there have to be other planets that would be easier to take over and take their resources.
If it's been thousands of years that they've been trying to take over this planet or whatever, it's just gotta be a total waste of resources for whatever they could possibly get from this planet.
There can't be something that great that they couldn't find it somewhere else.
jordan holmes
Earth is its own Iraq war.
It's just locked in an endless conflict.
unidentified
That nobody has the, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just the raptors are the ones who are Iraq warring us.
dan friesen
I think if you're able to achieve space travel, you don't get locked in quagmires like that.
jordan holmes
You know, that's just a misunderstanding of typical reptilian behavior.
dan friesen
Did you say misunderstanding?
jordan holmes
Misunderstanding.
Misunderstanding.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
I think...
I mean, maybe it's just a glass half full, glass half empty kind of view of marauding alien races.
I like to believe that they would be like, fuck this, not worth our time.
We've been spending, like, how long are their lives?
Thousands of years?
jordan holmes
They would have to be.
dan friesen
Right?
I mean...
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
How many have died in the process of trying to take over the Earth?
And if so, what are they trying to achieve here that isn't somewhere else?
It just doesn't make sense to me.
jordan holmes
Do they have a memorial on their home planet for the...
dan friesen
The fallen?
jordan holmes
Reptilians who have died on foreign planets.
dan friesen
Even like...
Wild animals, like a shark, will stop attacking you if you attack it back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, eventually.
dan friesen
A lot of animals, not all of them.
But many animals, if they get to a point where whatever food they're trying to get from attacking you is now taking up too much energy for them to get...
They won't engage.
jordan holmes
All, in some way, things can do a basic cost-benefit analysis.
dan friesen
Most of the time, people don't operate in ways where getting what they need takes more than...
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's basic, I-don't-want-to-die behavior.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't know how the reptilians would...
Is this their first...
It can't be their first time.
jordan holmes
Oh, what if this is their first go at it?
dan friesen
And that's why it's taking forever?
jordan holmes
And that's why it's taking forever!
They're like, until we can conquer this earth, where else are we gonna go?
Maybe the bigger problem is we're the easiest target.
And everywhere else is so much harder than us.
dan friesen
And they're just like, it's like the first level of a video game.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And they're like...
jordan holmes
Constantly practicing over and over and over again.
dan friesen
They're trying to grind.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're trying to grind it out!
They're too low level!
dan friesen
It doesn't make sense.
Anyway, you were asking about the racism there.
And I don't know if we're saying Bill Gates' typical reptilian behavior.
I don't know if that's necessarily racist.
But this next clip kind of made me feel like this is getting a little bit close.
kerry cassidy
This is my issue, though.
And I don't know if you want me to talk about this or you can interrupt me or whatever.
But they don't want...
okay they can't help themselves because they and this is true of the majority of the humanity that has the same genome, okay?
Or similar.
If you have a related genome, even to the mantids, by the way, who used to eat us, Even to the Mantis?
Because, you know, Simon Parks was their emissary to say that they're trying to change their ways and align themselves with us.
Mark Richards is the emissary from the Raptors, and they're saying the same thing.
They used to eat us, but then they decided their queen looked into the future and saw that it was better if they aligned themselves with humanity.
So now they're our friends, and they're helping us behind the scenes in major ways.
Why didn't you look into the future before?
The reason I try to explain is that...
And, you know, there is a mixture of races from all different sort of shades of gray.
And most of them have an agenda.
They're not just here, you know, for our well-being and because, you know, they want all peace and light and so on and so forth.
It's not really like that all that much.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know how much I can not hear that as someone saying that essentially...
jordan holmes
People from a different genome are lesser groups of people than the ones that I'm part of.
dan friesen
Your genetics have an impact on your innate character.
Your morality or your ability to control yourself or be evil or stop yourself from being evil.
That, to me, is a real problem.
That is an idea that I reject whole cloth.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it seems like once we got DNA, phrenology just got smarter.
It just got more, like...
dan friesen
You thought that was smarter?
jordan holmes
Not smarter.
More technically complex, I suppose?
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe complex.
jordan holmes
You know, it has to be, you know, your amino acids instead of your fucking jawline.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
That's kind of all I hear there.
And it's one thing when you're talking about aliens, because it's like this fantasy thing.
It's like...
All ones who look like lizards are bad.
You know, whatever.
It's good and evil in cartoons.
You know, you have that thing.
But when all humans are just composites of alien DNA...
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
And if you have that reptilian DNA and you can't help but be bad...
jordan holmes
You gotta be evil.
dan friesen
It raises the question, like, who has that reptilian DNA?
Right.
You get into that kind of territory...
jordan holmes
How do you identify who has that reptilian DNA carry?
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
You get...
dan friesen
You start to look at things in terms of, like, how does this apply realistically when you are assessing humans?
And it becomes troubling pretty quick, probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So fuck you, Carrie.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, this next clip, this is where I threw in the towel.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
And thankfully, it's towards the end.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
Because Carrie is talking about how she may have manifested spokespeople for the QAnon movement.
jordan holmes
Sure, good for her!
Good for her!
dan friesen
When she says the name of the person that she...
I was just like, I'm out.
Fuck this.
I don't even care.
jordan holmes
Is that Steve Pachenec's music?
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
kerry cassidy
What was happening with QAnon is that they didn't really come forward.
Have a spokesperson, per se, in any one particular individual over these many, many months of the Trump administration or, you know, years.
So as we get closer to the election, and I even put out a plea.
I don't know if it had any effect, but it seems to.
There seems to be a manifestation.
So whether I was helpful in bringing that forward, I don't know.
All I know is that...
I did some video blogs in which I said, we need to see your wins.
We need some evidence of your wins.
Those of us who follow you on QAnon and so on and so forth, it's not enough to just talk about it.
We need to see some evidence.
And so I think what they've done is they've chosen certain individuals to leak to.
Now, those individuals, according to Charlie Freak, Well, Charlie Freak was noticed because he was putting two and two together, intuitively, number one.
But number two, he's like a master numerologist, so he was very good at that, and then I guess also interpreting the cue materials.
But they noticed him, and they made overtures to him, basically saying, we don't have a leak, so how do you know this, as he says on my show.
And so he became one of those, you know, sort of...
Repositories, if you will, of getting some leaked information valid as to yes or no or whatever.
dan friesen
I'm not going to listen to master numerologist Charlie Freak.
jordan holmes
Come on!
Charlie Freak is a master numerologist!
He got a master's in numerology from MIT, Dan.
dan friesen
If I'm looking for a bassist, Charlie Freak might be in the running.
jordan holmes
That's a great bassist.
If he can do numerology, he can slap.
Everybody knows that.
dan friesen
Charlie Freak.
jordan holmes
Obviously, if I'm Q, I am electing Charlie Freak to be my mouthpiece.
dan friesen
Charlie Freak!
I didn't have time, but I wanted to write to the QAnonymous guys and be like, hey, what do you know about Charlie Freak?
Is Charlie Freak a player?
jordan holmes
Is he in the game?
dan friesen
Yeah, is he in the mix?
jordan holmes
How high is the Freak?
dan friesen
Freak-a-leek.
Oh, Freak-A-Leak!
jordan holmes
Freak-A-Leak?
He's a leak!
He's a leak!
dan friesen
Petey Pablo is in on it.
jordan holmes
Freak-A-Leak.
He's in the mafia.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
He was in the mafia.
dan friesen
Keisha La Ronda.
Freak-A-Leak.
You don't remember that song?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That Petey Pablo song?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It's equal to North Carolina, come on and raise up.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
dan friesen
Twist it round your head spin like a helicopter.
jordan holmes
No, that doesn't sound like me.
dan friesen
Do you not remember any Petey Pablo songs?
jordan holmes
No, I don't remember any Petey Pablo songs.
Dan, this is not an issue for me.
dan friesen
This is an issue for me.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm not bothered by it.
dan friesen
Charlie Freak is a leak.
My mind is blown.
jordan holmes
That's why Q picked him.
dan friesen
I think I believe them now.
jordan holmes
Q chooses based on rhymes.
dan friesen
I think I believe them.
I've talked myself into believing them.
jordan holmes
Once you get the rhyme, you win.
unidentified
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that was for me.
I'd be like, I punt.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Charlie Freak.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Come on, Charlie Freak.
dan friesen
All right, whatever.
So Carrie has another source named Charlie that has told her some information that actually, based on her tone, I don't think she believes this person.
But earlier in the episode, she said that he is in direct communication with the Illuminati.
So he should have good information, but apparently he doesn't.
kerry cassidy
You want to know about the financial reset.
Now, in this interview recently...
A few days ago, I think.
Charlie Ward is saying, because he has an inside track, that he's been told it started in August.
It's going to manifest.
Well, what's today?
September 4th?
Today.
Supposedly today.
Now, I guess seeing is believing how it's going to manifest.
They're calling it the quantum.
Financial system.
dan friesen
So do we have a quantum fluid financial system?
jordan holmes
I think we have a quantum fluid financial system.
dan friesen
You have a soul juice financial system?
jordan holmes
That sounds about right.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're recording this on September 8th.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
How did it manifest?
dan friesen
No manifestation.
jordan holmes
Still no manifestation?
dan friesen
No reset.
jordan holmes
Actually, they all went on a space water slide riding on quantum fluid, I imagine.
dan friesen
Could have been.
jordan holmes
Ah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
So, who do you think is going to be Trump's vice president?
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with a surprise appearance from Jeff Sessions.
They make up on national TV, and he becomes the vice president.
dan friesen
That is interesting.
You're incorrect.
kerry cassidy
Because I already knew that John F. Kennedy Jr., and I had already said to people out there that he was alive.
That was my intuitive take.
jordan holmes
Yes, he's alive.
kerry cassidy
But it became much more graphic in those dreams.
And then since then, of course, there's so many other people coming forward saying, you know, there's substantial reason.
And Jennifer Mack kind of lays that out very nicely in a very simplistic way for the brand new newbies to this idea of, you know, why Fusco is, you know, him in disguise and where he's been cited and, you know, Caroline and all this.
So I want to go over that.
unidentified
Of course not.
kerry cassidy
Bottom line is he's supposed to come forward in October.
Now, he was supposed to come forward in end of July, but for some reason the timeline changed some extraneous circumstances.
Of course!
Even though QAnon had actually hinted at that, and I believe the numerology did as well, it didn't happen.
And then Charlie Freak thought it would happen early August.
He had some numerology that he was following that he thought might go on.
That didn't happen.
But lately, the latest is now October.
Sometime during October, Pence will step down and JFK Jr. will be announced as his vice president.
That's my understanding.
Now, whether that's going to change or they decide to do something different, I don't know.
But that's kind of where that's at.
dan friesen
That's where that is at.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So sometime in October, Pence is going to step down.
JFK Jr. is going to be the vice president.
And, hey, look, I know we were wrong in July.
And I know Charlie Freak was wrong in August.
jordan holmes
Freak was wrong about numerology.
Who would have guessed?
dan friesen
He's a master numerologist.
He can't be right all the time.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
dan friesen
Charlie Freak.
jordan holmes
He's not a PhD in numerology, okay?
dan friesen
That's where you're wrong.
The first two letters are free.
jordan holmes
P-H.
dan friesen
Can't figure out how to work a D in there.
jordan holmes
That's very clever.
unidentified
I think that would be my breaking point for all of life.
jordan holmes
I think if suddenly JFK Jr.
Reveals to Earth that he faked his death and then just becomes vice president.
Like, he faked his death to become vice president.
unidentified
I think at that point I'm like, nah, fuck this.
jordan holmes
I'm out.
dan friesen
Let's play this out in reality.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He declares that he faked his death.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Immediately arrested.
jordan holmes
Of course!
Of course!
Think about all the laws that he broke!
dan friesen
So much fraud!
jordan holmes
Eh, Trump would pardon him to become vice president.
unidentified
It would be like, oh, you're going to jail, man.
jordan holmes
I really do think if I saw that on TV, I'd just walk into the ocean.
I'd be like, no, there's no point.
If this is real, there's no point.
dan friesen
I'm out.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Pass.
dan friesen
Hard pass.
Fuck it, man.
jordan holmes
Fuck it.
dan friesen
There's probably a devil mountain in Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Who the fuck hasn't faked their death?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have one last clip here, and it's where we're going to leave Carrie and Jean-Claude.
unidentified
With that said, folks, this terminates this part of the show here.
For those of you who are interested in having this next conversation on Kundalini and how to use the scalar energy weapon that we own as human beings, please join us on Patreon.com.
dan friesen
See, I stand true to my principles.
I listen to it.
jordan holmes
How did it go?
dan friesen
I can't tell you.
It was a Patreon exclusive that Carrie released on YouTube on her side of the stream.
I don't know why.
I actually didn't listen to all of it.
I turned it off.
jordan holmes
No, of course.
dan friesen
I was kind of interested, but at the same time, it's like, well, they did keep talking, and I'm like, well, this is theoretically what this guy is trying to keep behind a paywall.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
What are these people doing?
Why do I have more respect for their intellectual property than they themselves do?
jordan holmes
Because they don't have respect for anything.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
jordan holmes
They have respect for an imaginary guy who faked his own death.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just the best.
Just the best stuff.
jordan holmes
So beautiful.
dan friesen
I'm glad that some of these are back on YouTube.
And I'm glad that we took a little time away.
Because it's funny again.
jordan holmes
It is funny again.
It's way funnier again.
It's much funnier again.
I like a Devil Mountain in Ukraine.
dan friesen
Devil Mountain in Ukraine.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
Fucking Tesla did Tunguska based on a thriller novel that she read.
jordan holmes
Accidentally did Tunguska.
dan friesen
She condescends about how all these normies don't know shit.
jordan holmes
So if he knew about Tunguska, did he feel guilt over that?
Because he killed a bunch of aliens.
dan friesen
And trees.
I mean, it was kind of a remote area.
I don't know how many people were there.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
But I imagine some people had to have died, right?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I doubt it.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Buildings exploded.
dan friesen
Jordan, we're going to get out of here, but before we do, I'm going to break back out this bullhorn.
And let's listen to some voicemails.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Through the bullhorn.
jordan holmes
You can't move.
Hey there!
Yeah, I am a huge fan of the show.
unidentified
I just want to tell you guys about Jordan.
I understand that you have a need for sports.
You're considered sports.
There's a game called Blazeball.
B-L-A-S-E-B-A-L-L.
And it is an internet baseball league that is completely simulated.
There's nobody getting sick or hurt.
And it has a great community, and you would love it.
You can bet on games.
jordan holmes
There's the Chicago team.
unidentified
Go Firefighters.
Besides that, I just want to say I love the show, guys.
I've listened to you since your crossover with Asteria 51 back in the day.
Yeah, good fight.
See you guys around.
dan friesen
How say you, Jordan?
jordan holmes
I'm gonna check it out.
I think I read something about baseball like a year ago, and I was like, that sounds really cool.
But then, the more I think about the betting on fake baseball, the more I'm like, I only have 24 hours in a day.
I can't be constantly worrying about...
dan friesen
And that seems really easy to set up.
Seems like someone might be able to pull a scam on that one.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's fake betting.
It's not real money.
unidentified
At least I think so.
dan friesen
Check it out.
Or maybe not.
If you do, let us know.
unidentified
I will.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
Hello, Dan.
Dan and Jordan.
I'm a first time fan.
I love your work.
I love you.
Anyway, I just wanted to call and see if you had any availability for a tattoo.
I always wanted something done by the tat guys.
No, I just wanted to call and say thank you for the incredible work you do.
I'm immunocompromised and high-risk, and I live in a city in upstate New York where many people are not on the right side of history at the moment.
I'm also a white-presenting minority working for a minority non-profit.
While we do amazing community work, all I want to be doing right now is protesting out in the streets, but I can't leave my home due to being sick.
Your show has allowed me to have conversations with people on a whole new level, and I've even turned a few people onto your show.
You two are a shining light in a dark and dismal world, and I look forward to each and every one of your shows.
Thank you for giving me the tools to talk to people who I used to think were lost causes.
I sometimes even feel a teeny tiny sliver of hope, you know?
And it's because of you two.
So anyway, thank you so much!
I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DJX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundus.
And as my favorite crazy man always screams, comment as you see fit.
dan friesen
What an overwhelmingly nice call.
And we are not the bright light of hope.
You are.
That's so inspiring to hear this kind of perspective.
jordan holmes
I'm an asshole in my friend's bedroom.
I'm not the shiny light.
dan friesen
This is not my bedroom anymore.
jordan holmes
That's true.
This is your office.
dan friesen
A year ago, that would have been accurate.
But yeah, I really appreciate that.
And it's got to be so challenging to be in a situation where you have an immunocompromised condition and there's a lot of social issues going on that you'd like to be engaged in and a part of, but because of the public health.
Situation becomes so much more difficult.
Our heart goes out so much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't imagine the alteration of just perceiving people as knowing now getting too close to somebody is a threat now.
That's a whole different view of just like...
Shaking hands is a literal fucking...
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's scary.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much for the message, and please, please kick ass.
dan friesen
Yeah, kick ass and recognize, too, that you're saying...
You can say that we gave tools to help you talk to people in different ways, but that is all meaningless if you don't talk to people in those different ways.
You have the courage, the wherewithal to interact with people.
Who may believe different things than you.
And that's all you.
That is not us.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
And so thank you for using whatever dumb information we can come up with on this podcast in a productive way.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Hi, Dan and Jordan.
This is Simon from Sydney, and you've probably got a lot of calls from fellow Australian warrants about this, but it's pronounced quokka.
And they are of the same family as wallabies and kangaroos of marsupial, but they're not kangaroos on wallabies.
They're a human animal.
dan friesen
Our Australian tour is fucking cancelled.
jordan holmes
It's going to be brutal.
dan friesen
I'm just going to get my ass kicked the entire way through.
From Perth to Melbourne, everyone's just going to be yelling quokka at me.
jordan holmes
There's a part of me that thinks of one of my favorite Kyle Kinane jokes about how he loves foe.
And then people are like, it's pronounced pho.
And he's like, yeah, I get it.
But in Vietnam, they're not like, uh, it's pronounced meatball subway.
You know, like sub-series.
You know, it's like that kind of thing.
Where it's like, yeah, it's a quokka.
Fine!
dan friesen
No, I appreciate it.
I actually, I like this now.
I'm starting to really enjoy being told off by the entire island of Australia.
jordan holmes
It's enjoyable.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Hey, tat guys.
I hope.
I've been playing Horizon Zero Dawn, and I was wondering if you had any tips on how to be like a giant T-Rex robot without using all my terrible ass arrows.
Anyway, this ends up on the show.
Rad, thanks for doing great stuff and making the world a better place.
If this isn't actually a knowledge fight, then I am so sorry.
dan friesen
I don't know how to beat them without using those arrows.
Those tear arrows.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was really only able to do it by getting that big gun off its back and then using it on it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Oh, really?
What you gotta do...
Hit it hard enough to remove the back plating, if I remember correctly, and then you can use...
dan friesen
But the tear arrows are really good for that.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, you might need to use that one to open it up, and then you use the electricity arrows to take out the power generators.
Those explode, and that'll tear away the rest of the stuff so you can use your fire arrows to get rid of the blaze canisters, Dan.
This is an important thing for everyone to know.
dan friesen
I think Jordan had better tips than me.
jordan holmes
I think it might work.
dan friesen
Alright, and we will field any Horizon Zero Dawn questions.
That's just our policy.
jordan holmes
I think that's a 100% tat guy's rule.
dan friesen
Yeah, for sure.
unidentified
Hey Dan and Jordan, this is Conrad from Philadelphia.
I wanted to thank you for the show, and in particular, a service Dan has done for me during this year of the seltzer.
Last night I went to the supermarket to restock on my standard store brand lemon seltzer and discovered, to my horror, there was none in stock, and I was faced with a dizzying array of alternatives.
I pulled out my phone, I went to the Knowledge Fight website, and I noticed they had one of the current top five, the AHA Black Cherry Coffee.
Despite being more than two and a half times the price of my usual fare, my cheap ass trusted your judgment, and Dan, you were right.
This is a damn fine seltzer.
Cheers to both of you.
dan friesen
Yet another victory for the year of the...
jordan holmes
I knew it would come in handy at least once.
dan friesen
Man!
That's great.
jordan holmes
You're like a travel guide for seltzers.
dan friesen
Yeah, basically.
They have a lot of rankings.
jordan holmes
Top ten things to hang out at.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's really made a difference.
jordan holmes
I think you have.
dan friesen
I've helped someone choose a seltzer.
jordan holmes
Honestly, I buy us helping people choose seltzers more than helping them win arguments.
dan friesen
I would also like to give a little bit of an update.
We got these big swig ones.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I was blown away by one of them.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
It was a watermelon mint flavor.
jordan holmes
Watermelon mint?
dan friesen
I was confused when I looked at the can.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I took a sip, and I thought, this is amazing.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
And then I took another sip, and I was like, I'm not wrong.
This is amazing.
jordan holmes
82. 82?
dan friesen
82 for watermelon mint.
jordan holmes
That is amazing.
dan friesen
But, Jordan, I do have to tell you that I've been putting off...
I can't drink the party pickle.
I can't do it.
So we're going to have to try it right now.
jordan holmes
Of course we are.
dan friesen
So yeah, Paul sent these big swig seltzers from Austin.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you are not joking.
These are tall boys.
dan friesen
Well, just the party pickle.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The party pickle's a tall boy.
jordan holmes
The party pickle's a tall boy.
dan friesen
For no reason.
Like I said, there's no alcohol in this or anything.
I don't know what makes it a party pickle.
jordan holmes
We'll see.
dan friesen
But like I said, the big swig watermelon mint came in at 82. So they've got a fairly good track record behind them.
There's also a key lime flavor that I've tried that had a 72. Oh, that's great.
jordan holmes
Yay!
dan friesen
In the note that Paul sent, along with this...
jordan holmes
Holy cow, I smelled it.
dan friesen
Oh no.
It might have been a mistake.
Paul informed me that reviews were mixed.
Yeah.
I'll tell you about that smell.
Not mixed?
jordan holmes
Not a mixed review.
dan friesen
Negative.
I'm going to take a sip without taking a smell.
jordan holmes
Don't smell it.
Oh my god.
If you like this, that will blow my mind.
dan friesen
I have to say...
That's not nearly as bad as I thought it was going to be.
jordan holmes
Okay, I'm going to try it.
dan friesen
You know what it is?
It's understated.
jordan holmes
No, it is not.
That is terrible.
It's so loud and bad.
dan friesen
You think that's loud?
jordan holmes
That is loud.
That is a lot of pickle.
dan friesen
I mean, it's not a lot of pickle.
jordan holmes
That's a lot of pickle.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if you take a sip, you'd be like, yes, that is a pickle drink.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I think it could have been much more offensive.
jordan holmes
How did they get that much pickle into water, Dan?
dan friesen
The age-old question.
jordan holmes
I didn't think of that much pickle!
It's not even...
It's just water!
dan friesen
If I had to guess, I would say they probably used an obelisk.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I just...
Smell it.
dan friesen
No!
jordan holmes
You gotta smell it.
unidentified
See how it smells.
dan friesen
I have my own here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you can't really sniff it in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, it smells like a pickle.
jordan holmes
You don't even understand.
This is terrible.
dan friesen
Look, I may be biased a tiny bit because I like pickle.
jordan holmes
I keep taking another taste.
I can't stop myself.
It tastes so bad.
I keep going back.
It's like a canker sore.
dan friesen
It's the party part of it.
jordan holmes
That is the party part of it.
dan friesen
I guess reviews are mixed on this podcast, too.
jordan holmes
That does seem to be true.
dan friesen
But you know what?
I can't, in good conscience, give that a good score.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I'm going to sit with this for a little while, but...
This might fuck around to be less than a 50. Honestly, I'm gonna give it a 28. Because I've gone back three times.
I don't think it's nearly that low for me, but we'll see.
It's not good.
But I thought it would be like spit out kind of level.
It's definitely not that.
jordan holmes
It reminds me a little bit of that first taste of Malort.
As far as like...
I thought it was going to be more aggressive than it was because people have built it up to me so much.
dan friesen
They're all watching you drink it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
So with Party Pickle, I was like, oh, this is going to be a joke flavor.
It was a pickle.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Here's the way I would say it.
I could see how someone might enjoy that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's the praise that I could give it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Anyway, Party Pickle has been checked off the list.
Jordan, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
I hope so.
dan friesen
But before then, I've got to make a trip over to Ukraine, pay the devil a visit.
jordan holmes
Well, I know what mountain he's at.
dan friesen
Yep.
And we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at GoToBedJordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook!
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis, I am Charlie Freakily.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
Hello, Alex, I'm a first-time caller, I'm a huge fan, I love your work.
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