#475: August 24-26, 2020
Today, Dan and Jordan try to wrestle with Alex Jones' behavior in the stretch of time between the police shooting of Jacob Blake and the shooting of protesters in Kenosha last week.
Aug. 31, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
03:02:43
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| It's time to pray. | ||
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I have great respect for knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
|
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a friend. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| I'm thrown off here. | ||
| I mumbled my word a little bit because I had to mute our mics while the theme song was playing to tell you I hate Yerba Mate. | ||
| I just had a new bright spot, which is your fury at me drinking a Yerba Mate, which I didn't even know what it was until I bought it five seconds ago. | ||
| I'm not furious at you. | ||
| You made a weird face when you drank out of that can. | ||
| Well, it tastes terrible! | ||
| I was responding to you making that face. | ||
| And I was looking at the can. | ||
| I didn't recognize the brand. | ||
| And then I saw Yerba Mate. | ||
| And I made a face at you. | ||
| All while the theme song is playing. | ||
| All while we're doing this. | ||
| Because we're fucking professionals. | ||
| I had to mute the mic. | ||
| I hate Yerba Mate. | ||
| And you still didn't ruin the song. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And I still came in. | ||
| And the only interruption was me needing to talk about how I silently told you I hate Yerba Mate. | ||
| You could have passed it off like it never happened. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| We're doing great. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Hi. | ||
| Hi, Dan. | ||
| Hey, Jordan. | ||
| Hey, quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| Well, a lot of bright spots, I feel, lately have been a lot of plant-oriented stuff, and I feel very self-conscious about that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I've sort of freed myself from that, and all bright spots are probably going to involve plants. | ||
| From here on out. | ||
| Maybe not forever, but for the foreseeable future. | ||
| Since you were last here, I found some pretty cheap netting. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I've installed on one of my walls here in the office a makeshift lattice. | ||
| Yes, I see it. | ||
| For vines. | ||
| Because I've got a bean plant, and it's growing. | ||
| It's vining up. | ||
| Yeah, it's vining up. | ||
| It's growing pretty seriously to the point where if it didn't have something to crawl on... | ||
| You might be in trouble. | ||
| Well, the plant would be in trouble. | ||
| I'd be fine. | ||
| I just wouldn't end up with any beans. | ||
| You've never been the subject of revenge by bean before. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So I've put this up, and I like it so much that I've decided that it's the season of the vine. | ||
| I'm gonna go crazy with covering all the walls that I can with vines. | ||
| Like, why not? | ||
| There's no reason not to. | ||
| I can create basically a jungle. | ||
| No, you are. | ||
| If I'm careful, it won't hurt the walls too much. | ||
| Eventually, you're going to have to take a picture of this and put it out there just so people can see what I see. | ||
| And I wish they could have really seen the way that it's grown and how quickly it has. | ||
| It's one of those time-lapse photography things of the Empire State Building. | ||
| It's just so big now. | ||
| Well, I'm getting really into it. | ||
| And it's a passion. | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
| And I've decided, too, that one of the ways that I'm going to try and get more involved in community stuff moving forward... | ||
| Once we're sort of more able to, is find a community garden. | ||
| You want a community garden, yeah, for sure! | ||
| Find one, get a plot or two there. | ||
| I don't know, I didn't look in prices or rent or anything like that, but... | ||
| Get involved with that and try and donate whatever is grown to food insecurity. | ||
| I think there's an open plot at the park right near where I live, so you might be able to... | ||
| It's a little bit far. | ||
| It's a little bit far, I know. | ||
| I would prefer something closer, but that wouldn't be the worst thing ever. | ||
| It'd be nice to have a little walk to do. | ||
| Yeah, a 20-minute train ride. | ||
| I'm still in a bit of an experimental phase with a lot of the plants, but it brings me great joy to see these little seedlings. | ||
| I mentioned before that the cucumbers have a lot of flowers on them. | ||
| We've got some female flowers on one of the plants coming in. | ||
| They'll actually be cucumbers. | ||
| Finally, yeah. | ||
| Those are really growing in now. | ||
| I don't even like pepperoncinis that much, but I randomly planted some. | ||
| We've got some flowers coming in on those. | ||
| Well, you've got to plant something. | ||
| It's exciting. | ||
| That's where I'm at. | ||
| I'm going crazy and having a good time. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, I'm going to have to go with... | ||
| Cobra Kai on Netflix. | ||
| My partner, she's about to go back to school and she's freaking out. | ||
| Teaching, not like she's in high school. | ||
| No, she's not in high school anymore. | ||
| She's about to start teaching remotely. | ||
| Anymore seems like she just graduated. | ||
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That's creepy. | |
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| That's uncomfortable. | ||
| No, she's teaching remotely and she's really freaking out because there's no guidance from their union or the principals or anybody because nobody has any idea what's going on. | ||
| Everybody's scrambling around. | ||
| So she's staying up till 5 a.m. every night. | ||
| And last night... | ||
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This morning, all Cobra Kai, buddy. | |
| And to this day, Ralph Macchio is the least imposing and graceful martial artist that's ever been on screen before. | ||
| It is really bad. | ||
| His chest is concave. | ||
| He has very tiny shoulders. | ||
| He is the least threatening. | ||
| Martial artist I've ever seen. | ||
| Yeah, I think I agree with you. | ||
| But it's kind of the way he's supposed to be. | ||
| He's the underdog. | ||
| He's the karate kid. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But now he's an adult who owns a dealership. | ||
| So it's a little bit different. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| Do you remember the karate kid, Dan? | ||
| I thought you were just talking about watching the karate kid. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Is there a show? | ||
| 40 years after the events of the Karate Kid. | ||
| I did not know this. | ||
| And it's got the main characters back. | ||
| The Cobra Kai guy. | ||
| Old. | ||
| Miserable. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| Karate Kid. | ||
| Owns dealerships. | ||
| Kicking ass. | ||
| And then we all learn who's the bad guy. | ||
| And it's all of us along the way. | ||
| I had no idea this existed. | ||
| Yeah, it's great. | ||
| It's really good. | ||
| I won't watch it. | ||
| I know you won't watch it, but it's really good. | ||
| I appreciate knowing that it exists and that it's good. | ||
| This is confrontational. | ||
| Very tired. | ||
| For the last, like, days. | ||
| Yeah, I believe you. | ||
| This folks' episode. | ||
| A little frazzled. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Why, anything big happen? | ||
| So today, we're going to be going over the period of time from August 24th to August 26th, 2020. | ||
| I'm Dan, this is 2020. | ||
|
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God damn it. | |
| And I think that there's a lot of stuff going on during this time period that is particularly important and especially relevant vis-a-vis the world of Alex Jones. | ||
| And so what it is is the time frame of the day after Jacob Blake was shot by the police in Kenosha. | ||
| And this will go through to the day after the shooting happened where two protesters were killed, another wounded. | ||
| Also in Kenosha. | ||
| So taking a look at that time period, because I think that there's a lot of stuff that's been going around in the media about, I don't know about the media, but social media. | ||
| I've seen plenty of tweets that got a lot of traction that were talking about Alex Jones inspiring this shooter who shot protesters. | ||
| I saw a few references to Infowars and I was like, I'm going to wait until... | ||
| Other people tell me. | ||
| I was a little bit interested in that, and I wanted to pay particular focus to it. | ||
| And not too surprisingly, it's a complicated issue, and it's difficult. | ||
| And a large part of that is why we did not have an episode on Friday. | ||
| Things were coming in really fast, and I didn't feel like there was a responsible way that we could have made an episode. | ||
| And simultaneously, it didn't feel like I had it in me to do an episode about something else and not talk about the stuff that was happening. | ||
| It was very difficult. | ||
| I just couldn't imagine feeling and saying anything in any way appropriate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anything would be inappropriate to me. | ||
| The way I look at it is, even though we do a show where we create content that people listen to, sometimes it's more important that we ourselves end up listening, taking things in, and absorbing. | ||
| And that was kind of the state that I was in for a good couple days. | ||
| I think it was wise. | ||
| I think it probably works out for the best. | ||
| So we'll get to this episode here in a second, but before we do, we've got to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| That's a good idea. | ||
| So first, Chris B., thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Chris! | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, great name. | ||
| Daniel B., thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Daniel. | ||
| Next, Gary M., thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Gary! | ||
| Next, Jonathan, and then parentheses, a Five Iron Frenzy fan, E. Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Jonathan. | ||
| I somehow got in the middle of saying Five Iron Frenzy and Jonathan at the same time. | ||
| My brain got mixed all up. | ||
| Five Iron Frenzy holds up. | ||
| Does it? | ||
| I feel like that's a take that I have that I keep saying even though no one's arguing with me. | ||
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Most people have no idea who they are. | |
| Christian Skoban. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Anyway, Derek H., thank you so much. | ||
| You're an outpolicy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Derek. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Leanne. | ||
| Liana R., thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, Liana. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level. | ||
| We appreciate that very much. | ||
| So, Jason R., thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| And Sean D., thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much, Jason, and thank you so much, Sean. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much to the both of you. | ||
| If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support these gents too, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it. | ||
| We would be very grateful. | ||
| Or you could take that generosity, and Jordan, what do you want to do with it? | ||
| I would say you take that generosity, you put it in... | ||
| By the way, every time I'm going to throw it to you... | ||
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Now you're going to throw it to me until you can get an idea. | |
| Maybe you'll think of something and take it over. | ||
| I was going to do it... | ||
| Choose mine now. | ||
| I was going to just sort of pimp it out to you every time. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| And see how long it took you to notice. | ||
| But now I'm calling myself out on that. | ||
| That's a terrible idea. | ||
| I'd be bad at improv. | ||
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All right. | |
| *laughs* | ||
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I'm trying to force you into this scene, alright? | |
| Well, as my... | ||
| I'm trying to make you accept a reality for our skin. | ||
| As my teen improv coach, Matt Elfring, told me, if you are sitting down, you are always driving. | ||
| Yes, that is true. | ||
| So what you're going to do is you're going to take that generosity, you're going to put it in a paper bag, you're going to head to the park with a few of your friends, you're going to drink whatever is in that generosity, you're going to then take that to a urine donation center and give them the urine of your donation that they need. | ||
| That's very nice. | ||
| I think that's a good idea. | ||
| The first time I went to a park to drink, me and my friends were so stupid. | ||
| What we did is we had a bottle of red wine and a bottle of peppermint schnapps. | ||
| And we ended up like, why don't we mix them? | ||
| Yeah, why don't we put them in the same cup? | ||
| Faster than ever. | ||
| So gross. | ||
| That's the worst thing I've ever heard. | ||
| Yeah, so gross. | ||
| Oh, that's delicious. | ||
| So, Jordan, real quick before we get into the episode. | ||
| I realized that, you know, I've been really slacking on something and maybe we can have a little bit of brightness before we get into this episode. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So it is now time to check in with the year of the... | ||
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I was wondering when we were coming back! | |
| I think a lot of people probably forgot that it was going on or thought that I had forgotten. | ||
| And I want to say that one of the things that happened is that I ran into some walls. | ||
| And so I wasn't drinking as much seltzer. | ||
| I got a little bit depressed about seltzer. | ||
| Jelly Belly has a line of seltzers. | ||
| That sounds unreal, but please tell me more. | ||
| And I wanted to order them. | ||
| Of course you do. | ||
| But they weren't available. | ||
| How could they not be? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's a number of things that I found that I thought were cool, and I tried to order them, and you can't. | ||
| You just can't? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's some things that I don't even... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I bet Jelly Belly made a hundred of those, and everybody was like, why? | ||
| And then they stopped. | ||
| That makes sense to me. | ||
| Like, I gotta go to the dark web to get Jelly Belly seltzers? | ||
| Of course you gotta go to the dark web. | ||
| I'm not gonna do it. | ||
| Get some... | ||
| Crystal Pepsi next! | ||
| I think they do still make that. | ||
| I think that's still available. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| So anyway, I decided to get back on the horse with the Fizzy Waters, and we're now at 226 seltzers. | ||
| I got some Yerba Mate for you. | ||
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Oh, no, no, no. | |
| I don't know if I told you. | ||
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I hate Yerba Mate. | |
| 226, which is pretty good. | ||
| I'm worried I'm not going to make it to 500, even though we're still ahead of schedule. | ||
| No, this is what I told you all the way back then. | ||
| I said you've got to push out in front because you're going to get into the doldrums of summer and then you're going to get back into it. | ||
| You've got the strength, Dan. | ||
| I think that path appears to still be viable. | ||
| There were a couple of highlights here I want to say. | ||
| First, there was a San Pellegrino at a Diamond Edition. | ||
| I showed you the box. | ||
| It was in a box and it was, what, $4? | ||
| Like it's a bottle of fucking fancy champagne. | ||
| Yeah, it was $4. | ||
| Or $3, something like that. | ||
| I guessed like $15. | ||
| It was... | ||
| Good, plain, fizzy water. | ||
| I wanted to give it a one for its hubris. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| How dare you put yourself in a box? | ||
| I felt that wasn't fair, so I gave it a 66. Okay. | ||
| And then the other thing I wanted to bring up, this definitely deserves a call-out because I have been very anti-grapefruit, and I've gotten a little bit of flack for it. | ||
| I think grapefruit sucks. | ||
| I think it's a bad flavor. | ||
| All right. | ||
| However, I tried the Limitless, that's a brand apparently, grapefruit hibiscus. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Very good. | ||
| 76 out of 100. | ||
| 76? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, you put hibiscus in something and you love it, Dan. | ||
| Usually. | ||
| You like a hibiscus. | ||
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I do. | |
| I do. | ||
| Maybe it's from my island roots. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| And I think the grapefruit works really well with another flavor. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I don't think it stands on its own well. | ||
| It adds a nice little bite in its hang to it. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So if it's your secondary flavor, it gives you a smooth kind of bite. | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| And I think that's what, like, Fresco works. | ||
| It's like grapefruit lime. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you're probably right. | ||
| Maybe I'm making that up. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| What's a squirt? | ||
| What's a squirt made out of? | ||
| Squirt's delicious. | ||
| It's got grapefruit in it for sure. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| Canfield 50-50? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| So, Jordan. | ||
| I want to take a quick little moment before we get started here to discuss not having an episode on Friday. | ||
| I've already sort of... | ||
| I think it's pretty self-explanatory for anybody who listens to the show why we didn't have an episode, or at least the list of possibilities isn't very long. | ||
| But I want to explain exactly what's up here. | ||
| I texted you about this on Thursday morning that I felt that I'd lost some degree of perspective. | ||
| I couldn't really tell what direction was up and I was feeling completely lost. | ||
| There were many things that were happening that felt really important, not necessarily surprising, but horrifying, and I was finding myself unable to process anything in a manner that would make it possible for me to comment on it in a responsible way. | ||
| There was the Kenosha police shooting of Jacob Blake on the early evening of Sunday, August 23rd. | ||
| There was the unrest that broke out that evening in response to the shooting, which included a fair amount of property damage. | ||
| Then, on Tuesday, August 25th, a 17-year-old militia fascist shot and killed multiple protesters in Kenosha, despite the fact he lived in Illinois. | ||
| Then, on Wednesday, August 26th, a homicide suspect in Minneapolis took his own life while being pursued by the police. | ||
| Which some mistook as a police shooting and led to a bit of looting. | ||
| Though the police didn't shoot the guy, it's a testament to how little trust is there with the public that they have in the police that the default position is to not trust them when they say they didn't shoot this person. | ||
| In a move that I absolutely resent, the police released security camera footage of the man taking his own life and not knowing how explicit the video was, I watched it on Twitter, which fucked me up a bit. | ||
| Then, on Thursday, there was the awareness of the imminent landfall of Hurricane Laura, which was looking particularly nasty as a storm. | ||
| When it arrived in Louisiana, it was tied with the hurricane from 164 years ago for the title of strongest storm to ever arrive in that state. | ||
| That's just one of the many records that are being broken this hurricane season as warmer waters precipitate the earlier and stronger formation of tropical storms and hurricanes. | ||
| When it came time to record an episode for Friday, I realized that I had no productive thing to add to any of this conversation, and the only responsible thing was to wait, to calm down a little, listen, and try and regain some sense of this perspective. | ||
| There was an added difficulty for me professionally, and that had to do with the 17-year-old shooter in Kenosha, and how there was immediate talk of how outlets like Alex Jones were encouraging this kind of violence in the days leading up to the attack. | ||
| Very quickly, there were tweets talking about how Infowars had an article up promoting the militia that was in Kenosha and involved with the shooting, although in fairness, they did forget to point out that this was an article posted elsewhere that Alex had just reposted on Infowars. | ||
| Still bad, but also lazy. | ||
| Screenshots were posted of that militia trying to legitimize themselves by pointing to that Infowars article as proof of their credibility. | ||
| And then, on August 28th, Media Matters released an article with the headline, quote, This article is fine upon analysis, but it also is incredibly limited in its scope. | ||
| This article only touches on a couple of comments that Alex made in the previous week, and a couple of posts on Infowars, which misses the reality, That what happened, an armed extremist killing protesters probably believing that they're doing so to save the country, is the ultimate conclusion of a long-running campaign on Alex's show. | ||
| This is where things get really complicated for me, because there's still a lot that's unclear, and it limits my ability to make as strong a claim as I would like to. | ||
| At the point that we're recording this, it remains unknown if the shooter listened to Alex Jones' show, so it's difficult for me to say in any legally meaningful way that Alex directly contributed to this tragedy at all. | ||
| I struggled with that, because this was one of the points where my ability to retain perspective was really being challenged. | ||
| It feels like Alex helped inspire this terrorist attack, and my immediate reaction was sort of alternating between thoughts of how this was a pretty predictable eventuality... | ||
| And how disheartening it is to realize that Alex was far from the only outlet from which this shooter could have been getting the messages he was getting. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| I can't say with certainty if this guy was an Alex fan, but I want to lay out here how if I do learn that he was, it won't surprise me at all, and how Alex's show has been trying to inspire a violent act like this for months, which is a lot of the context I feel is missing from the articles and outlets like Media Matters about Alex and this shooting. | ||
| For months now we've heard Alex ramping up his calls for violence against left-leaning protesters. | ||
| We've heard him ramble about how vengeance belongs to God, but the answer to that riddle, which I didn't realize was a riddle, is that you, one of Alex's listeners, might be meant to be the instrument of God's vengeance. | ||
| In fact, here's him saying exactly that. | ||
| You know, vengeance is God's. | ||
| Vengeance is God's. | ||
| But God has instruments of vengeance. | ||
| That's always the twist to the riddle. | ||
| And so the globalists expect to try to terrorize us. | ||
| We're not one of these poor kids who got strung out in one of your dungeons. | ||
| We're going to terrorize you. | ||
| That was an older clip from last April, but if you pay close attention to Alex like I do, you'll know this is a theme that he brings up on a pretty regular basis. | ||
| For instance, here's him discussing how his listeners could be a tool that God uses to bring vengeance from his June 30th, 2020 episode of the broadcast. | ||
| You know, God is the will of the universe. | ||
| God is consciousness. | ||
| God is the Almighty. | ||
| And so vengeance is God's. | ||
| But how does God deliver vengeance? | ||
| Well, God delivers vengeance through us. | ||
| But you've got to be real careful that you're actually following God's plan, and you'll know when it's time for vengeance. | ||
| So there's a divine importance to the possibility of you committing violent acts against Alex's perceived enemies, and you'll know when it's right for you to act. | ||
| God will tell you when, which could be better understood as Alex saying that if you feel strongly enough to act, you should rationalize that that's God's voice telling you to kill people. | ||
| The essential thing that's very difficult for people to wrap their heads around is that shows like Alex's are not about politics in any meaningful sense. | ||
| They're fascist cult religious programming, where the host will devolve into long, drawn-out rants about the literal Christian devil being in charge of the globalists who are running the Democratic Party and also all the Republicans who don't blindly follow Trump and everything he says. | ||
| This is critical to understand because it's not always been this way. | ||
| There's been a religious undertone to Alex's show for a long time, but in its current state, it's just basically authoritarian brainwashing in radio form, using religious ideas as a way to heighten the stakes of the need for the authoritarian regime to solidify its power. | ||
| Alex wants a dictatorship and knows that that's a bad argument, so the only way you make it is to justify that a dictatorship which surrounds white identity is better than the literal Christian devil, so we should all go with the white identity dictatorship. | ||
| Most of the rest of his show is kind of just window dressing, like Alex interviewing an idiot or reporting on a headline he knows will anger or scare his audience enough to buy the dumb pills. | ||
| The heightening to religious terms also justifies whatever actions you, the listeners, might take. | ||
| If you're up against a literal Christian devil, really, is it so bad if you kill someone? | ||
| What if you're able to convince yourself that the person you're killing is an agent of the same literal Christian devil? | ||
| In that case, it would seem like it would be morally wrong not to kill them. | ||
| I mean, God might even tell you to do it. | ||
| And I believe in you. | ||
| They're going to figure out ways to take action against it in a legal and lawful way. | ||
| But when the globalists become totally lawless, there is no more law. | ||
| And I just become sick to my stomach now thinking that... | ||
| My mind has to begin looking into other avenues. | ||
| A lot of other people are looking into those avenues. | ||
| They've been asking me what paths could be gone down. | ||
| All I can say is seek God's face. | ||
| God will lead God and direct us down those roads if need be. | ||
| An essential piece of the project... | ||
| That you need to be doing when you're Alex and you're playing this game is the dehumanization of people you want violence to be carried out against. | ||
| This takes many forms because there are many aspects to how you see someone as a person. | ||
| Each of us is multifaceted and we have a number of different forms of rights that apply to different aspects of our lives. | ||
| One element is the rights that you have as the citizen of a country. | ||
| There are certain things the government cannot do to you, like how unidentified agents were kidnapping protesters in Portland back in July and detaining them in unmarked vans. | ||
| This is a completely unacceptable treatment of people, but if it's being done to a group that you want to dehumanize, then you need to justify that, which Alex did on his July 9th show. | ||
| They're asking, well, who are these men? | ||
| A lot of them are federal marshals, but most of them are U.S. military attached to the hostage rescue team. | ||
| So it's the military, and that's why you're getting grabbed and why they're driving you off, and then you're getting interrogated because you work for a foreign power. | ||
| You work with a Chi-Com globalist literally trying to burn the country down, destroy the stock market, and bankrupt the economy. | ||
| You're a bad person. | ||
| You're a military operative. | ||
| You're an enemy combatant. | ||
| You're not an American citizen. | ||
| You said no borders, no wall, no USA at all. | ||
| Alex has made the warrantless detention and kidnapping of left-wing protesters okay because he believes that their political opinions and positions make them not Americans and, in fact, enemy combatants. | ||
| Alex spent years of his career yelling about the Patriot Act, and now he wants the very sort of thing that was enabled to be used on his imagined enemies, because he's decided that they're enemy combatants and they don't have rights that people enjoy in this country. | ||
| That is, in effect, arguing that the left-wing protesters that you see are of a separate class of people from the rest of the country, and they're essentially an invading army. | ||
| If they're an invading army of enemy combatants, then you shouldn't be too concerned about what happens to them. | ||
| This dehumanization has another level to it, where the argument becomes that these aren't even really people. | ||
| On the July 10th show, Owen Troyer explicitly makes this argument, equating protesters to, quote, obstacles to freedom. | ||
| You can say there's enemies of freedom, but that's not, to me, the correct psychological approach, because I don't sit here and see them as my enemy. | ||
| I don't see them as an enemy of freedom. | ||
| I think if you ask them, they want to be free too, just like anybody else. | ||
| But what they've become unwittingly is obstacles of freedom. | ||
| They have become obstacles of freedom. | ||
| And as soon as Americans in mass are willing to fight for their freedom, like you said, Alex, it's a trap. | ||
| You're now an obstacle. | ||
| You're going to get run over. | ||
| Use the cars running these people over in the streets as a physical example. | ||
| The opposition is not a person with a political philosophy or simply a different set of priorities to yours. | ||
| They're obstacles to freedom. | ||
| Obstacles aren't people, they're things. | ||
| There's only one party in this equation that has any agency or political will, and it's Alex and Owen's side. | ||
| They know what freedom is, they know they're right about everything, to the point where they see people who disagree as little more than traffic cones on the road to some idealized state of freedom they imagine they're on. | ||
| This is pretty consistent as a mentality on Alex's show. | ||
| The people who have passionate political beliefs that are counter to his are just idiots who the globalists have tricked into opposing Alex's perfect ideology of freedom. | ||
| This is, at its core, a convenient and cowardly way for Alex to yell about people who believe things he doesn't like without having to really explain his problems with their beliefs or argue them in any meaningful way. | ||
| He does this primarily because he can't argue for his positions, and if he tried, it would quickly devolve into blatant white identity talking points and the game would be up really fast. | ||
| Along with dehumanization, another tactic that's important to use when you're looking to encourage violence against a group you don't like is to massively exaggerate and mischaracterize your opposition. | ||
| When the Autonomous Zone in Seattle was set up, Alex engaged in some pretty racist and comical behavior in this vein when he discussed Seattle activist Raz Simone. | ||
| Seattle now, a large part of the city, is controlled by a self-described African warlord. | ||
| And it's being endorsed by the left as a wonderful new thing. | ||
| And there's videos of him running around. | ||
| Can we go to his YouTube channel and show folks this guy? | ||
| Running around beating people up, calling himself and his armed goons the police department. | ||
| The area affected by the autonomous zone is exaggerated to sound like it's most of a major U.S. city. | ||
| And the state of affairs is misrepresented to being that the area is under the control of an African warlord. | ||
| This is obviously meant to paint a particular sort of picture in the audience's mind. | ||
| One that helps them justify responding to left-wing protests with violence. | ||
| There were protests in Seattle, and what grew out of that was the city being ruled over by a violent African warlord. | ||
| So if there were protests in your city, that's a possible outcome if you let these leftists have their way. | ||
| At the end of July, Alex engaged in his behavior in a particularly flamboyant fashion when he claimed that MS-13 Chinese liberal hit teams were being sent out to get all the conservatives, which, by my count, did not happen. | ||
| But it's totally confirmed now. | ||
| Soros, Deep State, Obama-controlled, Hillary-controlled, Antifa will be the decoys. | ||
| The distraction systems for real hit teams preparing to try to decapitate the leadership of the pro-human, pro-America movement, whether you're a corporate person, an academic, in finance, in government, in the military, you're targeted for death. | ||
| They may launch the attack next week, or they may launch it during the last days of the election, they may launch it after, but they have the safety off, the finger on the trigger, MS-13 hit squads, CHICOM hit squads, everybody. | ||
| And they're getting ready to totally overthrow everything, and they're coming to kill you and your family. | ||
| So be ready, lock and load, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I guess it still could be coming. | ||
| This is a nonsensical claim that Alex's reporting has totally confirmed that these hit teams are going to show up and kill conservatives. | ||
| The way Alex uses language is actually really insidious, though, since he seems to be talking about conservative leaders being targeted, but ultimately he ends up by saying that they're going to come kill you and your family. | ||
| This is a personalization of the exaggerated threat, which is meant to make the audience feel a sense of impending doom that they need to take action against. | ||
| Another example of this outrageous and embarrassing style of exaggerating your perceived enemy's actions in order to rile people up into hurting them was what Alex did over the weekend of July 31st to August 2nd. | ||
| He took some erroneous and bogus information and used it repeatedly to tell his audience that Antifa was planning to burn down police stations around the country that weekend. | ||
| Because this is the time for all good men and women to come to their country. | ||
| And so wherever you are around the country, but if you're in Milwaukee, or you're in Austin, Texas, or you're in Phoenix, Arizona, or you are in Los Angeles, California, or you're in New York City, or you're in Miami. | ||
| These are some of the towns that Antifa says they're going to take over the police stations and burn them down Saturday night. | ||
| And as you've seen, they've done it all over the country, so you should probably take them at their word. | ||
| Past behavior is the most indicative of future behavior. | ||
| Past performance is the most indicative of future behavior. | ||
| This is a ridiculous narrative, and of course, the prophesied attacks never came. | ||
| And Alex's information came from a Boogaloo Facebook group that he was pretending was Antifa, but let's not get lost in the weeds. | ||
| The idea of a coordinated attack on police stations around the country is very serious. | ||
| That kind of thing would require some kind of organizational centralization, and that's the implied message of a stupid narrative like this one that Alex is pushing. | ||
| It's less important whether or not the attacks actually come. | ||
| An important goal is just getting the audience to subconsciously accept that his perceived enemies could coordinate attacks on police stations around the country, because if they accept that notion, they have to accept that the other side is basically an army. | ||
| It's all one, coordinated, marching together. | ||
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| That clip also highlights another important aspect of inciting violence against a group you want to target, and that's making the listener feel responsible to do something. | ||
| You've created the feeling of impending doom and that, you know, you feel a need to act against it. | ||
| Now it's being expressed that it's your responsibility to do something. | ||
| Alex is directly calling for people in those cities that he names to do something to stand up to this hyper-exaggerated fear about Antifa attacking police stations in their city. | ||
| There is a responsibility to stop these left-wing protesters, but... | ||
| It also is a problem for Alex that it might not be legal to do the things that need to be done to do that. | ||
| This is actually something Alex explicitly recognizes and does discuss on the show. | ||
| They just keep escalating and escalating, and I don't see a way, legally and lawfully, because things are so paralyzed, to stop the left. | ||
| And I get what you're saying. | ||
| Don't interrupt your enemy while they're destroying themselves. | ||
| But at a certain point, there's a responsibility to stop them. | ||
| So when you assign a responsibility to someone, what you're saying is that it's wrong for you to not do this thing. | ||
| It's not that the thing you're saying, you know, you're suggesting is a right thing to do. | ||
| It's that inaction is itself a wrong thing to do. | ||
| There's something that must be done. | ||
| It's your responsibility. | ||
| This type of thinking can go very wrong when the things that you suggest your audience do are really fucked up. | ||
| For instance, there was the July 28th episode of his show where Alex suggested that his audience make kill lists of protesters. | ||
| I mean, I don't even want to kill these globalists. | ||
| But if they want to kill us, the best thing to do in a defensive way is kill as many of them as quickly as possible. | ||
| Again, the media will misquote that. | ||
| I don't want to offensively kill anybody, but I'm not going to take this, okay? | ||
| And I always want everybody like Santa Claus to take down names. | ||
| While we're here, 90-something days out, and just think about the future. | ||
| If they take down your country, they destroy your bank account, they murder a bunch of patriot leaders, what are you going to do? | ||
| Because you always talked about when the New World Order came in and when the UN did this, you were going to go out and shoot folks in blue helmets. | ||
| They don't wear blue helmets. | ||
| They show up in black uniforms and burn down your local courthouse and overthrow your government and run your life. | ||
| That really speaks for itself. | ||
| Alex is telling his audience to make lists of protesters, because he believes them to be the real foot soldiers of the globalist invasion, which had long been visualized as UN troops showing up with blue helmets. | ||
| That's pretty outrageous, but probably not as bad as what Alex said on his July 8th show, when he started to advance the idea that possibly someone would need to sacrifice themselves to take out globalists. | ||
| We have to get control of our governments. | ||
| We have to reverse the technocracy plan. | ||
| The post-human plan. | ||
| And if governments won't do it, we have to start talking about what we're going to do and who's going to step up and take one for the team. | ||
| I don't want to go there, but we can't just sit here and let these people do it. | ||
| The leadership of the globalist operation must be dealt with. | ||
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| That's not something that Alex only brought up once. | ||
| He's mentioned the possibility that someone in the audience may need to essentially commit a suicide attack in order to take out the supposed globalist leadership. | ||
| The jumping back and forth between talking about globalist leadership and protesters, that's an intentional thing on Alex's part. | ||
| He wants the audience to essentially see them as the same thing without having to constantly talk about killing... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Obviously convincing someone that they should carry out a kamikaze attack against Alex's imaginary enemies, that's a tough sell. | ||
| Which is where the importance of the religious aspect of this show comes back into play. | ||
| In order for someone to really consider the idea of giving up their life in order to take out a supposed political target, you really need to amplify the struggle. | ||
| There needs to be religious significance to carrying out Alex's wishes, and there also needs to be an underpinning of guilt. | ||
| There needs to be some kind of... | ||
| Way in which this is your fault, dear listener, that we're even in this situation, which is something that Alex actually does express quite a bit. | ||
| So I will warn all of you watching and all of you listening, we have committed crimes against God. | ||
| We have committed crimes against the children. | ||
| We are going to be judged. | ||
| This planet is going to be burned to a crisp. | ||
| You better get right with God now. | ||
| And you better start fearing the engineer that built the universe instead of bowing down to these midget demons you have been warned. | ||
| The world has sinned against God by embracing things like abortion and diversity, and so Alex says it will burn. | ||
| But if you struggle against the literal Christian devil, there's still a fight that you can be a part of. | ||
| If the world's gonna burn and it's your fault for letting things get to this point, maybe you can redeem yourself by killing the literal Christian devil's minions or something. | ||
| Most people are not comfortable with the idea of killing or even assaulting other people. | ||
| Generally, most people are violence and confrontation averse, mostly because adults realize that we don't want violence being directed at us, so unless it's necessary or in response to other violence, it's wrong for us to initiate it. | ||
| Even Alex recognizes this, so in order to convince his audience that in fact violence against groups he wants hurt is okay, he acknowledges that offensive violence is wrong, But also redefines any violence carried out by his side to be defensive in nature. | ||
| We've just gone too far. | ||
| We've gone too far putting up with this politically. | ||
| And I'm not saying we should offensively get violent, but my brain and my genes, my cells, are saying kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill. | ||
| I mean, they're killing us. | ||
| Bill Gates is coming with a weapon to kill us slowly and laugh about it. | ||
| These things that Alex is doing and the way he's engaging with his audience almost appear to be designed to help listeners overcome any nagging doubts they have about hurting people they disagree with politically. | ||
| God says vengeance is mine, but hey, you might be a tool of God's vengeance. | ||
| Violence against protesters is wrong, but it's fine because they're actually enemy combatants, and when you think about it, they're basically just obstacles to freedom. | ||
| If you don't fight them, your city's going to end up ruled by an African warlord, hit teams are going to kill you and your family, and Antifa's going to burn down all the police stations. | ||
| Therefore, it's your responsibility to fight back, and there may not be a legal way to do that. | ||
| You have to create kill lists to protesters, and someone might have to take one for the team and sacrifice themselves to take out some globalist leaders. | ||
| And if this sounds severe, it is. | ||
| But it's only severe because we've sinned against God, so we deserve to be fighting a group of people who work for the literal Christian devil. | ||
| They want to make vaccines, which is basically the same thing as killing everyone. | ||
| So when you really think about it, any violence you do to those people who support things like vaccines, that's defensive. | ||
| So they actually deserve it. | ||
| This is an argument and justification for committing violent acts up to murder against people who are protesting for political policies that you disagree with, which is taken entirely from Alex's stated positions and things he said not once but repeatedly. | ||
| If you're a person listening to this bullshit show and you're of an impressionable age, it would not surprise me at all if you thought you might need to kill protesters in America in order to save the country. | ||
| The final aspect of how Alex's show operates in a way to encourage violence against his enemies has to do with what happens after the act of violence has happened. | ||
| When Garrett Foster, the protester in Austin, was shot and killed, details of the shooting were fudged in order to make it a simple self-defense situation. | ||
| One man who kept doing this in front of police headquarters, in front of the city council, was shot dead last weekend when he pulled a gun on a man in his car while they had it blocked off, and the man was pointing an AK-47 at the innocent citizen. | ||
| We still don't know the man's name who turned himself into police and was released. | ||
| Probably not white is the reason that they're not releasing the information he's going to make about race war. | ||
| Alex is even able to throw in some baseless race baiting in there for good measure. | ||
| Yeah, you've got to put it in there. | ||
| And other times we've seen this in the past. | ||
| Alex has also done the It Was a False Flag shooting. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's not pulled that as much. | ||
| These clips for this are all from Jude until now. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And he hasn't done that with a lot of these more recent acts. | ||
| Well, the false flag is tough because part of them wants to be like, look at these heroes. | ||
| And then the other part of them wants to be like, whoa, we didn't have anything to do with that. | ||
| So the easier thing... | ||
| I think that he feels he has the optics that are necessary because there are protests that a lot of his audience are scared of. | ||
| That he can play the self-defense card a lot more than he could in other situations where there were right-wing terrorists who shot up a bunch of people. | ||
| Why do the false flag? | ||
| So Alex even acts this way surrounding a much lower-profile act of violence, like when he spent part of his show on June 2nd celebrating how his son Rex beat up an alleged looter at a convenience store. | ||
| I just learned before I went live that my son was going to visit my parents, and there was looters in the store attacking people, and he had to kick their ass. | ||
| And we've got that dramatic footage. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| It looks like a movie. | ||
| These acts of violence that are carried out are celebrated and rationalized in a way that I refuse to believe is accidental. | ||
| I believe it's part of whether it's subconscious or conscious, it's part of The pattern that he operates in. | ||
| Alex consistently acts in ways that facilitate, argue for, and justify acts of violence against people he disagrees with politically, and it doesn't feel inaccurate for me to say that the way he acts seems designed to prompt a listener to take what he's saying. | ||
| If they take what he's saying seriously, they go out and hurt somebody that Alex wants hurt. | ||
| And one of the reasons that I just can't accept that he doesn't know what he's doing... | ||
| It's because Alex has discussed this very behavior in the past. | ||
| When he was talking about Phil Mudd saying things about Trump that Alex took as a threat on television, Alex described Mudd's behavior as essentially being stochastic terrorism. | ||
| And when Mudd went on TV and said, we will kill this guy, the CIA will kill this guy, the government's going to kill this guy, that was done to telegraph... | ||
| Confidence to their networks embedded in the government that they were trying to get other people to create false whistleblower reports, to leak information to the media, and to then finally get somebody else to muster up the courage to poison the president, to shoot the president, to kill the president. | ||
| That's what this is, is agitating to hope somebody else does it. | ||
| From that clip, we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Alex fully understands that someone saying something on a public platform can have the effect of inspiring someone listening to do something bad, and that could be a strategy that someone employs. | ||
| I don't agree with him that Phil Mudd was doing that, but what's far more important is the accusation proves awareness. | ||
| If you're aware of this tendency or this strategy someone could use, then you have a greater responsibility for your actions. | ||
| Alex has no excuse to act the way he has in the past few months if he's aware that someone saying things like the things he's saying on his radio show can have the effect of inspiring someone listening to enact violence. | ||
| He has a responsibility to convey his messages in more careful and safe manners, and if he refuses to do so, it strongly implies to me that the ultimate result of violence against his political enemies is a desired outcome for him. | ||
| Either that, or despite knowing that his words could incite someone to violence, Alex is literally incapable of stopping himself from acting in ways that would make that more likely. | ||
| And if that's the case, he's just as condemnable for not removing himself from the airwaves where he's able to have that effect on people. | ||
| None of this is to say that the shooter in Kenosha definitely listened to Alex's show and was inspired to his act from that. | ||
| I don't know that, and it might not be the case. | ||
| It might be the case. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I can't prove it either way. | ||
| But I'm not positive that it's even the most important point. | ||
| Alex is part of a media ecosystem that operates in the same way he does. | ||
| Some independent QAnon weirdos incite violence much more than him or attempt to. | ||
| Some giant names like Tucker Carlson engage in slightly stealthier incitement, generally by justifying acts of right-wing deputies. | ||
| That said, I'm not sure that there's anyone who's larger than Alex who's as explicit and overt about his stochastic terrorism tendencies. | ||
| Whether or not this shooter was a fan of Alex, what happened in Kenosha is exactly the effect you'd expect to see from the way Alex behaves. | ||
| And I'd be very surprised if we don't see more of this outcome. | ||
| I see it as a possibility. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm sorry about that long chunk there. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Do not apologize. | ||
| That's called being thorough. | ||
| How dare you do your job well, you bastard? | ||
| Well, more of the apology was that you had to sit there. | ||
| Well, I could have gone to the bathroom, that's true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Would have been slightly uncomfortable. | ||
| It would have been weirder, yes. | ||
| I really had to sit with this for quite a while to really... | ||
| Figure out what the thought I had on all the talk around Alex. | ||
| Because so much of this was about Alex posted this article about the militia in Kenosha. | ||
| And like, yeah, he reposted someone else's article. | ||
| There's a chance Alex himself didn't even know that article got reposted. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| His editorial hands-on-ness is probably... | ||
| Non-existent. | ||
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| So I could see it as entirely possible that he didn't even know that anyone posted that. | ||
| Had no idea. | ||
| Now, so it's really hard to trace a direct line between anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think some people are trying to do that. | ||
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| I see some Twitter accounts that are trying to make that argument. | ||
| And I understand. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I understand why. | ||
| I just think. | ||
| And I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's all this dumb shit about like. | ||
| Yes, this is what I look at all the time. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| I'm aware of it more, but I just think that expanding it out a little bit allows for more of an understanding of, like, it doesn't matter if Alex had any legitimate direct connection with this individual shooter. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Look at what he's doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is the behavior that would predicate something like this? | ||
| What I am struggling with is just the massive forest for the trees situation that we're dealing with here, which is that I don't care if it was Alex Jones who wrote it up and suggested everybody go to it. | ||
| What we're in is a... | ||
| A media system that Alex has helped popularize and propagate that created an entirely false reality for 40% of the country. | ||
| So whether or not it's Alex or it's fucking Zero Hedge or it's Red Ice Radio or any of these people, they're all part of the thing. | ||
| That is cultivating fear and using it to create chaos. | ||
| And that chaos is going to make the order of fascism seem more palatable. | ||
| That's the entire idea. | ||
| And it is not Alex. | ||
| It is Tucker. | ||
| It is Fox News. | ||
| It is all of these people working in concert. | ||
| It's a thousand social media influencer accounts that you can't even think of. | ||
| You didn't even know. | ||
| You may not even know they exist. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's a little bit like when they do studies on... | ||
| Childhood development. | ||
| And it's like the parents have less impact upon a lot of growth than the social peers do. | ||
| The media like Fox News and that stuff is a lot of the times now your parents. | ||
| And what's more effective is going to be those Twitter campaigns, those Facebook fucking viral posts and memes and all that shit. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's really easy to internalize information from social media without checking any of it, and it can completely distort your understanding of things. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't have a solution. | ||
| I mean, when you think about it, who's killed more cops in the past ten years? | ||
| Probably sovereign citizens. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| How is it that cops themselves have been brainwashed into thinking that those dum-dums are on their team? | ||
| I'm not sure if it's actually sovereign citizens. | ||
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I don't know the stats on it, but they do end up killing some cops. | |
| Yeah, they kill a lot of cops. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| So I wanted to take a look at this time span from the day after Jacob Blake's shooting, covering through the ensuing protests and wrapping up the day after when Alex knows about The shooting of the protesters. | ||
| Because I was interested to see if there was a compelling argument to be made from his work over those days that he was doing something that would incite someone to leave Illinois. | ||
| Him specifically. | ||
| Because if there is, then that's much stronger than the things that were being posted in Media Matters and on these. | ||
| Social media accounts that were saying he posted this article and he said a couple of things. | ||
| So we're going to take a look and we'll see. | ||
| We'll see what the conclusion we come to is. | ||
| I suppose my issue with that, before we go any further, is a, I think, kind of fundamental misunderstanding of Alex's ideas here. | ||
| He doesn't care if one person goes to one protest. | ||
| The whole idea is a shotgun approach. | ||
| Every protest should have one of those people who might go off. | ||
| He doesn't care about Kenosha or Portland or wherever. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| The point is, I'm trying to inspire somebody somewhere. | ||
| Why would I give a shit about if it's Kenosha or not, you know? | ||
| True, true. | ||
| But based on the fact that there were outbreaks of protests... | ||
| For sure. | ||
| That would... | ||
| Be sort of a moth to the flame. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Attract his attention. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Preliminarily. | ||
| And now we're going to... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, one thing I should point out is that Shadowgate does not come up. | ||
| It doesn't? | ||
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| The water of waters is out? | ||
| I was trying to lighten the mood unsuccessfully. | ||
| You were doing great. | ||
| So, here's how we start on August 24th. | ||
| Red alert. | ||
| 70 days out from the election to overshadow the Republican National Convention that Trump is going to speak every night at. | ||
| The deep state has launched even more intense riots, police being shot at, knocked to the head with bricks, car dealerships being burned down, businesses that have Black Lives Matter signs being torched. | ||
| This is the globalist program of total destruction, but the people are waking up and the truth is getting out. | ||
| So, I think Alex is trolling us by starting his show with a red alert. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Obviously, Alex has no idea what's going on in Kenosha, nor does he even open this episode appearing aware that that is where protests are happening. | ||
| He further doesn't seem to be aware of the inciting incident of the protests, but that could also be an instance of convenient ignorance on his part. | ||
| One thing that I find very interesting is how Alex is painting a picture of complete bedlam and using it for his purposes, when in reality, the situation is for the people experiencing it to decide how it should be used. | ||
| What I mean is basically this. | ||
| If you punch me in the face and I immediately forgive you and were able to grow through that experience, no third party really has the right to use you hitting me for their own ends. | ||
| Someone could report that you hit me, but the fact that I didn't experience it as you being evil or violent, and the fact that we were able to get past it, that negates a lot of the negatives that someone might think about you after the fact. | ||
| You would think? | ||
| What I'm getting at is that Alex is saying that this car dealership was burned, and that's fair enough. | ||
| That is a statement of fact, but there's more detail. | ||
| For instance, ABC12 in Wisconsin reported that after the fires caused damage at these businesses, one of the shop owners that was affected, named Mary Losey, said, quote, I can't blame people for being angry, and to be honest with you, I'm more concerned for the man fighting for his life. | ||
| We had some damaged windows, we'll be okay. | ||
| As for the actual car dealership... | ||
| The owners of that might not have been too worried about the damage either. | ||
| According to a tweet posted by BBC's Alim Makbul, he spoke to the owner who claimed that they were looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage, quote, but if it actually gets justice, sure, burn it 20 times. | ||
| I can't find that being reported anywhere else, but this is a professional journalist reporting on a first-hand conversation with a picture of the owner speaking to him. | ||
| So that'd be a really wild thing to fake or embellish. | ||
| Yeah, but you don't want that getting around. | ||
| It seems like that kind of misreporting could blow up really fast if this guy, Makbul, was just making up this quote. | ||
| Yeah, that would be a lightning rod for a lot of people. | ||
| There's like a hundred right-wing outlets that would happily amplify this owner saying that the BBC had lied about it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The glee with which all... | ||
| The media would cover that compared to the collective shrug of a business owner being like, I would prefer justice. | ||
| They're like, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Property damage is wrong. | ||
| This mentality that this guy has is not universal. | ||
| And I'm sure there are some business owners who are pissed off and are taking this very personally. | ||
| But it does seem like the focus of the coverage of stories like this always tends to prioritize that and ignore the people who are just as much victims of property destruction who understand that human lives are always more important than money or things. | ||
| The thing that makes this tidbit particularly glaring is the optics of the car dealership burning in the early morning hours of August 24th were front and center in the media's coverage of the protests that had broken out. | ||
| The image of the cars burning were the central focus to drive up the fear of the rampaging mob, so it kind of makes sense that if that's the centerpiece of the coverage, it's relevant to point out that the owner may take a much broader view of social unrest than is easy to report. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think people would be as emotionally aggravated by a picture of a burnt-out... | ||
| A car dealership with the owner standing in front of it, giving two big thumbs up. | ||
| Like, come on, guys! | ||
| Let's go do it! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Owner of burnt-out building says, next building! | ||
| Come on, guys! | ||
| Also, this is a small point, but the talking point that this car dealership had a sign-up that said Black Lives Matter is meant to instill fear in Alex's audience. | ||
| It shows that these people are just out to destroy. | ||
| They don't even care if you support their cause. | ||
| Cannibalize anyone! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This trivia piece was repeated far and wide, but I saw some pictures of the fire that were posted on lawofficer.com, and if you look at the sign people are talking about, it's clear that it's not the dealership sign. | ||
| It's a marquee for the Bradford Community Unitarian Universalist Church, which is next door. | ||
| This is a trivial point, and I'm not necessarily concerned with whether or not a business had a sign on it. | ||
| I only bring this up to highlight that Alex doesn't do any work because he doesn't care. | ||
| No one cares. | ||
| It's hard to care, and it's easier to live in a corporate dystopia, apparently. | ||
| So for the first six minutes of every hour, generally, Alex will play a special report. | ||
| He doesn't do that because it's not on most radio stations. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| They do the station identification, top of the hour news. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| So why bother? | ||
| News and traffic. | ||
| And so he plays... | ||
| I usually skip past it, because it's usually someone who does terrible voiceover. | ||
| I just can't handle it. | ||
| But I don't know why I stuck around this day just to see... | ||
| Eh, what are they doing? | ||
| And it turns out it was John Bowne. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Protesters in Portland, Oregon, who are well on their way to 100 days of rioting, were met with a contingent of patriots supporting blue lives. | ||
| These patriots tend to be older, larger, and adept at throwing a haymaker. | ||
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I've been in combat, and I never want to go back again. | |
| But I'm telling you what, I will to save this country. | ||
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If it has to be against our own citizens, it will happen. | |
| And there's a million people like me, and you won't stop us. | ||
| Remember back when he said John Bowne had a good voice? | ||
| There were days. | ||
| We were young once. | ||
| There were days. | ||
| This John Bowne report sounds incredibly bad in hindsight, knowing now what happened in the early morning hours of August 26th when that gunman who came to town from Illinois shot and killed multiple protesters in Kenosha. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't sound good. | ||
| In that report... | ||
| Bound plays audio of a veteran named Carlos Zapata from Redding, California. | ||
| Zapata spoke at a Shasta County Board of Supervisors meeting, and it was the closest thing to a threat of street violence I've heard. | ||
| Ironic to see a Zapata supporting a fascist regime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is a little... | ||
| It is a little twist. | ||
| It is a little twist. | ||
| He was pissed about COVID-19 restrictions, and it was a mess. | ||
| Here's a little section of his rant, which also includes a weird phone notification sound effect that's in the original video, but I wanted to point it out because it's a little distracting. | ||
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And I'm telling you right now, that right now we're being peaceful. | |
| And you better be happy that we're good citizens, that we're peaceful citizens. | ||
| But it's not going to be peaceful much longer. | ||
| And this isn't a threat. | ||
| I'm not a criminal. | ||
| I've never been a criminal. | ||
| But I'm telling you, good citizens are going to turn into real concerned and revolutionary citizens real soon. | ||
| And nobody else is going to say that. | ||
| I'm probably the only person that has a ball to say what I'm saying right now. | ||
| That we're building, we're organizing, and we'll work with law enforcement or without law enforcement. | ||
| But you won't stop us when time comes because our families are starving. | ||
| And if you don't hear the seriousness of my voice, I hope you open your ears and you absolutely listen to what I'm saying. | ||
| Because this is a warning for what's coming. | ||
| It's not going to be peaceful much longer. | ||
| It's not going to be rah-rah. | ||
| It's not going to be speeches. | ||
| It's not going to be gathered outside saying a Pledge of Allegiance. | ||
| It's not going to be waving flags. | ||
| It's going to be real. | ||
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When you've seen the things that I've seen, I went to war for this country. | |
| I've seen the ugliest, dirtiest part of humanity. | ||
| I've been in combat, and I never wanted to go back again. | ||
| But I'm telling you what, I will to save this country. | ||
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If it has to be against our own citizens, it will happen. | |
| And there's a million people like me. | ||
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And you won't stop us. | |
| That shit is unhinged, and it depicts a person who's saying that if the country doesn't agree to ignore public health measures, then people like himself would be willing to engage in open combat against their fellow citizens. | ||
| I've seen the ugliest of humanity, and I was like, fuck yeah. | ||
| Let's bring it home. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| It's terrifying when you look at it, but I'm gonna be honest, when that video first came to my attention, I didn't really think much of it. | ||
| On Alex's show on August 19th, he plays that video multiple, multiple times, and I'm sorry that I experienced it as something that just faded into background noise. | ||
| In the past few months, as we went over at the beginning of this episode, I've tried to make a point of Alex's increasing trend towards clearly trying to incite violence, and honestly, it's become hard for me to tell when something is me sounding like a broken record. | ||
| I'll often not bring up things that I've talked about a ton unless there's an evolution or a shift in the narrative, and to be fair... | ||
| On the 19th, we were pretty focused on Shadowgate. | ||
| There was a little bit of Shadowgate going on. | ||
| Everybody who listens to the show must read the news about Alex and be like, guys, he has been screaming about how we should be killing everybody every single day for four months. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| He posted an article on Friday. | ||
| We've been doing this for years now. | ||
| I mean, I grant that it's unfortunate timing that there was a shooting of protesters. | ||
| In a very close proximity to Alex posting an article that endorses this militia that was there. | ||
| That is unfortunate timing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, with this video of the guy at the meeting, the thing that's interesting is that John Bounds' report completely misrepresents Zabata's words. | ||
| This rant at the supervisor's meeting had nothing to do with civil unrest around police brutality. | ||
| He was specifically complaining about businesses being closed because of COVID-19. | ||
| When he says that he'll go to war with his fellow citizens, that was a threat about what would happen if the county didn't reopen and people continued to have to wear masks at businesses. | ||
| John Bowne recognized that the language there that was threatening about war with fellow citizens, that was really good for the optics surrounding police brutality protests, so he took Zapata's comments and applied them to a completely different situation. | ||
| And Jordan... | ||
| What do we call that? | ||
| Good reporting, Dan! | ||
| Lying! | ||
| Oh, that's what it was. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Lying! | ||
| It's so insane. | ||
| But that's what I'm talking about when I say that the entire media ecosystem has created an alternate reality where this guy is like... | ||
| The government that I support, that I love so much, has absolutely destroyed the economy in every possible way. | ||
| They are ruining everybody's lives. | ||
| They're stealing money from all of us. | ||
| They're murdering us. | ||
| They're pulling people off the streets in unmarked fucking vans. | ||
| And do you know who I'm mad at? | ||
| The wall of moms. | ||
| That's who I'm really pissed off at. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| You know, like, that's how the... | ||
| It must be insane. | ||
| You must drive yourself mad. | ||
| You know, there has to be a part of you that is losing your mind, thinking, like trying to control the cognitive dissonance that you're experiencing. | ||
| It feels like it would. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have to be exploding, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You think you would, but maybe not. | ||
| It's a grim thought, but maybe there's a comfortability that comes in eventually. | ||
| Just like a zen state of hating everyone. | ||
| So Alex spends a lot of the beginning of this show really just painting a dystopian picture of what it looks like on the ground in Wisconsin. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Wisconsin. | ||
| Where it looks like, again, scenes out of a third world collapse or civil war. | ||
| Road Warrior isn't even strong enough to describe it. | ||
| Police getting shot at. | ||
| Police being stopped by Black Lives Matter communist checkpoints. | ||
| Warehouses being burned down. | ||
| Car dealerships burned down. | ||
| Churches burned down. | ||
| Street battles everywhere. | ||
| People running up, hitting police in the back of the head with bricks. | ||
| Total loss of control. | ||
| American flags being guillotined. | ||
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What? | |
| They're now rolling guillotines out. | ||
| This is all Jacobin French Revolution 2.0. | ||
| Alright, so flags are getting guillotined. | ||
| Man, I'm cool with Jacobin French Revolution 2.0 at this point. | ||
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It's a weird thing to be included in his list. | |
| I'm gonna guillotine a flag. | ||
| What's the head of the flag? | ||
| Probably the stars. | ||
| It's the stars? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you gotta... | ||
| Chop it at a diagonal? | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So, anyway, Alex discusses this whole thing. | ||
| There's a hippie with a gun, apparently, that Alex has a video of. | ||
| This is a Black Lives Matter long-haired hippie running up with his assault rifle, menacing and ordering the police around. | ||
| And the police are so paralyzed that if they do anything, that they'll all be given the death penalty, that they're just letting them do it. | ||
| That idea right there is huge, because it's a central theme of much of the right-wing justification for the shooting after the fact. | ||
| The police refuse to restore justice, so of course some 17-year-old from another state should be the one to meed out that justice. | ||
| I mean, here's Tucker Carlson literally saying that after the shooting. | ||
| Kenosha has devolved into anarchy because the authorities in charge of the city abandoned it. | ||
| People in charge from the governor of Wisconsin on down refused to enforce the law. | ||
| They stood back and they watched Kenosha burn. | ||
| So we're really surprised that looting and arson accelerated to murder. | ||
| How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would? | ||
| Very shocked! | ||
| Quite shocked. | ||
| Very! | ||
| Tucker's words are an attempt to make what the guy did okay, to help his audience reach a place where that act seems justified. | ||
| Alex's words are an attempt to get someone to do what the shooter did. | ||
| Yeah, they're playing a two-man game here. | ||
| The way Alex is framing this, he's calling for one of two things. | ||
| Either he's saying that the police should take these protesters out and stop being so afraid of getting in trouble. | ||
| Or he's saying that the way the system is set up is such that the police just can't do what needs to be done, so we need vigilantes. | ||
| His audience hears him, and they understand what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah, I'm trying really hard. | ||
| I have been trying very hard to remain calm and not scream, because I'm worried that if I start, it's just not going to stop. | ||
| Well, actually, my whole intro... | ||
| It's just not going to stop. | ||
| My whole intro, that whole long chunk, was really just a way of you... | ||
| Slowing me down. | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Getting me down into a more... | ||
| Receptive level. | ||
| I was trying to create a fictional reality where we didn't actually cancel Friday's episode because you were too busy yelling. | ||
| I was very, very... | ||
| I wasn't good. | ||
| I genuinely... | ||
| I don't know if I could have done it. | ||
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I'm sure. | |
| I mean, we both sort of process things in different ways. | ||
| Me thinking. | ||
| Thinking. | ||
| Meddling with plants. | ||
| You yelling. | ||
| Me with a song in my head and a scream in my heart. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex, you know, he sees these demonstrations on the street, this property damage and what have you, and he realizes that, hey, I remember Project Veritas video that mentioned that. | ||
| Remember what the Democrats said on all those hidden Veritas videos a year ago, six months ago, that the media poo-pooed. | ||
| We're going to burn the cities ahead of the election. | ||
| We're going to burn the cities after the election if Trump wins. | ||
| Alex can't keep his Project Veritas videos straight. | ||
| The video that he's referring to is originally used by Veritas to smear Bernie Sanders by interviewing a staffer who's talking shit about how the country will burn if Bernie doesn't win. | ||
| If Alex wanted to try and use that now, since Bernie didn't win the primary, I guess he could go for that. | ||
| But it's a bit of a stretch to just rewrite this piece of propaganda to make it about how the Democrats said that cities would burn if Trump was real. | ||
| Come on, if you can't update your propaganda, you are not doing it right. | ||
| Well, Alex is totally comfortable changing the points and players in these narratives because he knows they... | ||
| They don't mean anything. | ||
| There's no actual truth to preserve in what Veritas puts out, so it's pretty easy to just pretend those videos say whatever the fuck you want them to say. | ||
| There's a pretty keen awareness even for Alex that if someone is stupid enough to think Project Veritas videos show anything other than bullshit, then they're probably stupid enough to believe that the Bernie staffer was talking on behalf of the Democratic Party. | ||
| Yeah, the entire Democratic Party! | ||
| You know, the ones that embraced Bernie's with arms wide open! | ||
| You know, they definitely didn't all... | ||
| Organized behind each other to make sure that at no cost would anything good happen to America. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So a lot of this episode, at least in the beginning stages of it, you know, a ton of it is sort of repetitive. | ||
| A car dealership burned, you know, like that. | ||
| And it's kind of boring, so I was trying to find some points where things could get kind of interesting. | ||
| Something to talk about. | ||
| Because I don't want to just listen to him say tires are burning over and over again. | ||
| Yeah, that's no good. | ||
| So here's something kind of interesting. | ||
| These criminals have censored everything. | ||
| They've attacked everything. | ||
| No borders, no wall, no USA at all. | ||
| They have shipped in the fentanyl that's killed millions. | ||
| 1.4 million died just last year of TB that the Democrats helped ship in and blocked people stopping. | ||
| 1.4 million people did not die of TB last year. | ||
| Did you just say that 1.4 million people died of TB? | ||
| Yeah, and the way he's talking, he definitely is implying that that's in the United States. | ||
| Is this... | ||
| Are we in the Rust Bowl? | ||
| Like, what is happening? | ||
| I assure you, if that number was even close to accurate, it would be the biggest story around. | ||
| Probably way bigger than COVID-19. | ||
| It'd be the most insane story in history! | ||
| One year after zero TB, after like nine TB deaths, 1.4 million TB deaths, that would be a big story. | ||
| Approximately 9,000 people get TB per year in the United States. | ||
| That number has been steadily decreasing basically every year that the CDC has records for going back to 1953 in which 84,304 people got TB. | ||
| What's going on is that Alex is actually fairly close to the accurate number of how many people died in the entire world from tuberculosis last year. | ||
| But almost all of the cases are in Africa and Southeast Asia. | ||
| The rates are particularly high in developing countries where access to medical care may be limited, so TB in children may not be diagnosed properly, which leads to many of the deaths. | ||
| There is a vaccine that can be given, but its efficacy is limited. | ||
| For instance, people living with HIV cannot use it, and more generally, it doesn't actually create a lifelong immunity, so there's still progress to be made on that front. | ||
| Alex wants to use this statistic of 1.4 million people dying of TB, but he's using it dishonestly. | ||
| He's lying and saying it's just in the United States, and it's because immigrants and refugees are coming in and infecting everyone. | ||
| That's essentially Nazi-style propaganda and demonization built out of dishonesty, using the statistic as a lie. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| So you're saying that somebody saying immigrants and foreigners... | ||
| Bringing in disease is some sort of Nazi kind of thing, Dan? | ||
| I'm saying it's Nazi style. | ||
| When did they ever do anything like that? | ||
| That's odd. | ||
| The next thing you know, he'll be saying that his enemies are drinking blood. | ||
| That'd be crazy. | ||
| The reality behind this statistic is that there are a lot of people in the world who are dying from TB, and there's a lot of things that we can do if we prioritize the problem. | ||
| Creating cheaper, high-quality tests, particularly ones that can be used on infants, would make a huge difference. | ||
| And that's something that the government could easily help subsidize or even put regulations on the test manufacturers to help keep prices down. | ||
| Beyond that, more money could be directed to researching breakthroughs in better TB vaccines or less complicated drug regimens. | ||
| And if we committed to it and we got lucky, there's a really good chance we could get that 1.4 million number down pretty considerably. | ||
| Alex doesn't care about the 1.4 million people dying. | ||
| He only wants to use that number as a prop to demonize his imaginary enemies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It is the only thing they do. | ||
| Everything is wrong. | ||
| We have no solutions. | ||
| You should kill people. | ||
| That's basically what they do now. | ||
| And the solutions that probably could make some difference are globalism. | ||
| Are evil. | ||
| Not just we have no solutions. | ||
| We are actively trying to kill all of those solutions with God. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So Alex is pretty obsessed with the idea of... | ||
| That all these protesters are trying to create checkpoints. | ||
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| And one of the reasons that he's doing this is because I think he's noticing there's a lot of videos of people trying to run over protesters. | ||
| Yeah, that's really hard to justify. | ||
| Well, the way you do it is by reframing all of these instances as people just trying to get out of checkpoints that people have set up. | ||
| They've been set up. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It's almost like you're admitting that checkpoints are a bad thing. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Well, Alex has an interesting way of looking at it. | ||
| This made me laugh out loud. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I'll just tell you, if I'm driving down the road and I see, say, a forest fire or something up ahead and I see police out with their guns out and they're looking for a manhunt or something, I'm going to comply if I believe it's lawful. | ||
| But if I pull up to a pack of thugs at a checkpoint pointing guns at me and telling me to pull over, well, you're not going to like what happens. | ||
| You're a terrorist. | ||
| Alex is trying to pretend that Antifa is setting up all these checkpoints, which is the narrative that he's working on here. | ||
| But the secondary narrative is that Alex is trying to present himself as the guy who respects lawful policing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Hey, man, if I saw some cops trying to do their job, I'd respect that, but not these globalist minion thugs. | |
| I find this really funny because I know Alex's career. | ||
| In 1999, Alex released a documentary called Police State 2000, and approximately 15 of the first 25 minutes of it is Alex yelling at cops running a checkpoint. | ||
| Here's some fun clips of Alex really respecting these cops who are trying to do their job. | ||
| Now we're about to go out and speak to some of the police and expose what they're doing and hopefully reactivate their conscience. | ||
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We are entering the eye of the checkpoint. | |
| Caution, reduce speed, checkpoint ahead. | ||
| Isn't that loving, children? | ||
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Hello, Voppen SS. | |
| I wouldn't have said that, Alex. | ||
| I have to pause it there. | ||
| That's my favorite. | ||
| Yeah, I wouldn't have said that, Alex. | ||
| Alex's cameraman, Mike Hanson, coming in. | ||
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I wouldn't have said that. | |
| I wouldn't have started there, buddy. | ||
| Well, because he's saying that because in the video, this is them driving through a checkpoint and Alex is yelling at the cops who are standing on the side of the road. | ||
| And it actually kind of hurts his argument that this is some kind of a random, capricious thing because he's calling them Nazis and they don't pull him over. | ||
| No, they don't have a problem with it. | ||
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I got it. | |
| Get the searchlights. | ||
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I tell you, this is it, guys. | |
| They're laughing. | ||
| Get shots up. | ||
| They're over there laughing about the death of this country. | ||
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Look at them. | |
| Over there laughing about the death of our nation. | ||
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I got it. | |
| Over there thinking it's funny. | ||
| Things were pretty sad in Alex's career before 9-11. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| When you really get down to it, his career has basically been the evolution from him being an outright whiny baby to him being an unapologetically racist baby. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's kind of... | ||
| That's his Pokemon evolution. | ||
| I'm really struggling with his first... | ||
| Did he tell me, if I'm driving and there's a forest fire in front of me and I see some cops at this checkpoint... | ||
| Yeah, that's an interesting thought. | ||
| I'm gonna stop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But... | ||
| If there are thugs at the checkpoint, I'm not going to stop. | ||
| Different checkpoint. | ||
| The thugs aren't running a fire. | ||
| See, that's kind of what I heard. | ||
| If there are thugs in the way of my forest fire, I'm driving right into that forest fire. | ||
| I don't believe... | ||
| That's interesting because that is a possible interpretation of what he said. | ||
| That is one reading of it. | ||
| I'm going to drive into a fucking forest fire if it ain't cops. | ||
| I think the accurate reading of that is what he's saying is... | ||
| Cops are setting up checkpoints for your safety, whereas they're... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's saying that there's this one, this firefight checkpoint, and then there's a completely separate, in the middle of a city checkpoint that's where the globalists are doing. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| Object permanence is an issue. | ||
| We need to even take a step further back, though. | ||
| And that is that, why do they have this checkpoint at a forest fire where the cops have their guns out? | ||
| What are they doing? | ||
| How are they protecting people from the fire with their guns? | ||
| Well, our slaves in California are all sick with plague, so we're trying to shoot the fire. | ||
| I don't know how to deal with that. | ||
| I guess it's an option. | ||
| So, we get back to the Kenosha stuff here, and Alex is, you know, just really heightening. | ||
| Armed BLM Soros terrorist setting up a checkpoint and ordering the police armored vehicle to stop, and the police have been told by their leftist controllers, their leftist supervisors, That they will submit to this. | ||
| So here's the footage. | ||
| So here you see Alex heightening and reinforcing the narrative that the police are powerless to stop what's happening in Kenosha due to what Alex is clearly presenting as the brass, telling them that they have to submit to the protesters. | ||
| There have been many complaints that sound very similar to this from the left-wing, but the difference is that in a lot of those cases, the left-wing complaints include proof. | ||
| There's documentation of things like the police being in communication with the Proud Boys and Joey Gibson, coordinating with them. | ||
| There's a video of the police in Kenosha thanking the militia folks for being there that night of the shooting of the protesters. | ||
| There's a lot more evidence that goes along with the argument that the police do seem to make a habit of siding with the right-wing folks in these protest situations. | ||
| But even so, I've not heard people on the left really making the argument that because the police seem to make a habit of siding with right-wing fascist types, that... | ||
| That means it's open season for vigilantism. | ||
| I recognize and realize that some people may struggle with this, but there's a massive difference between one side saying, the cops won't shoot these people I don't like, so I have to, and the other side saying, the police and the state are not taking our needs seriously, so we're going to protest and some property's probably going to get damaged. | ||
| So, his main problem with Tiananmen Square was that the guy wouldn't get out of the way? | ||
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Hmm. | |
| I mean, you know, the cops... | ||
| So he's... | ||
| I mean, that's... | ||
| China didn't have a leftist government running everything at the same time. | ||
| The real problem was that the cops didn't, you know, they let it get to that point. | ||
| See, there we go. | ||
| The cops were powerless to stop the guy from standing... | ||
| With their armored car. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, it's convoluted. | ||
| Yeah, we're doing great. | ||
| We're doing great. | ||
| So Alex takes some calls on this episode and something that's kind of fun. | ||
| I don't know if it's fun. | ||
| It's fun for me. | ||
| I was desperate. | ||
| You were looking for anything. | ||
| So he's talking to this caller who's trying to make an anti-vax argument by appealing to the Nuremberg Code. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| And it's really... | ||
| This is really interesting to me, but this is also in that state where I was like... | ||
| I might be completely losing perspective. | ||
| This might not be interesting to anybody. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So Alex discusses the Nuremberg Code here a little. | ||
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Here we go. | |
| And you're right. | ||
| That's where we get the precursor to the Geneva Convention. | ||
| And in the Geneva Convention, it says that you cannot test things on people unless you have informed consent. | ||
| And they agree because of what Joseph Mingala and the Nazis did. | ||
| And so what you're saying is incredibly important. | ||
| This is in response to, like I said, a caller rambling about how you shouldn't have to get a vaccine because the Nuremberg Code says that you can't force experimental things on people. | ||
| It's a lot of nonsense for a hundred different reasons, but the only part I find interesting is that Alex should definitely be opposed to the Geneva Convention. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Also, there's the small point that the first Geneva Convention, where international rules regarding the treatment of wounded soldiers and prisoners of war were established, took place in 1864. | ||
| Long before the Nuremberg Trials. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Either way, Alex is talking about the Geneva Convention that took place in 1949 after World War II, which was the fourth Geneva Convention, and based on his supposed political beliefs, he should hate them. | ||
| The Geneva rules are based on multilateral treaties that are an affront to any nation's sovereignty. | ||
| They're rules the countries are bound to, including the prohibition of taking hostages. | ||
| Well, let's hold on about bound to. | ||
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No. | |
| Forcing people into armed service or willfully denying someone accused of war crimes. | ||
| You have to give them a fair trial. | ||
| And they're bound to these rules by international law. | ||
| That's globalism shit. | ||
| Pure and simple. | ||
| And he should absolutely hate it because he's cheering for the cops to violate those same Geneva Conventions on a daily basis. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Breaches of the Geneva Convention are enforceable universally, which is to say it doesn't matter where the crime was committed. | ||
| So you're saying that there's no sovereignty? | ||
| Regardless of where the crime's committed, it gets tried by whom? | ||
| You guessed it. | ||
| The United States! | ||
| The fucking UN Security Council. | ||
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Oh no! | |
| Well, not directly. | ||
| When there are breaches, the UN Security Council establishes an international criminal tribunal and then they try the case. | ||
| I recognize there are all sorts of points that you even brought up that you could bring them up about how ineffectively the Geneva Conventions are applied, and that's a fine discussion for another day. | ||
| My only interest right now is the fact that Alex should fucking hate the Geneva Conventions if he wants to be philosophically consistent. | ||
| Based on his fetish for nationalism, he should be calling for the destruction of the Geneva Conventions and arguing that it's each nation's responsibility to have their own rules that achieve what the Geneva Conventions do. | ||
| He can be against countries taking hostages and torturing while still being against the Geneva Conventions, and he absolutely 100% needs to be if he's serious about his beliefs. | ||
| While we're at it, he should be super upset about the Nuremberg trials. | ||
| This guy hates globalism. | ||
| The fear of global government keeps him awake at night, but for some reason he's fine with binding international laws that prohibit nations from acting in certain ways. | ||
| Well, you're against Nazis. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| I guess I'm glad that he supports the Geneva Conventions, but... | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Verbally. | ||
| Verbally. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I'm still not going to give him a pass for this glaring hypocrisy. | ||
| The point I'm trying to make is that Alex Jones is not a serious person. | ||
| He doesn't even know what his alleged beliefs entail because he hasn't actually sat down and thought them out. | ||
| He's perfectly happy to yell about nationalism all day when it's a mask that he can use to hide his white identity beliefs in opposition to social justice, but weirdly, when his belief in nationalism would require him to take an obviously unpopular stance, like opposing the international prohibition on killing prisoners of war, nationalism isn't so important anymore. | ||
| Fuck this ignorant, low-effort piece of shit. | ||
| I mean, it's just old people being like, socialism is wrong, and it's gonna get us all killed! | ||
| Well, I mean, I'm on a fixed income because Social Security is taking care of me, and you're like, fucking shut up. | ||
| Just shut up. | ||
| But I, you know, it's moments like that where you really sort of, the clouds part, and you realize that, like, Alex... | ||
| You're just some dumb fuck who read these John Birch Society things and then adopted all of that and then got... | ||
| Fucking freaked out on weird conspiracies for a while, and now you yell about the devil. | ||
| You don't even know what your beliefs entail. | ||
| If he was up here talking about how all of these things that are really good and allow us to try the Nazis after World War II, fuck those things. | ||
| They're wrong. | ||
| Those people should be freed and given a trial in Germany. | ||
| They committed their crimes in Germany. | ||
| It should only be the German government. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But he doesn't do that because he knows how fucking hard of an argument that is to make. | ||
| Because it's ridiculous. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, there's two things, which is, first, they're all held to this weird subconscious standard by which progress becomes accepted. | ||
| Like, you know, Jeff Sessions is not going to go back and be like, well, according to my ideology, slavery is still fine. | ||
| I mean, his ideology is fine with slavery, but he's not going to say that. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| I mean, sort of. | ||
| And then the other thing is that it doesn't matter if what they're... | ||
| They're not trying to make you afraid of real things. | ||
| They're just trying to make you afraid. | ||
| It doesn't matter if what you're afraid of is real. | ||
| It doesn't matter if Tucker Carlson is actually telling you the truth about how fucking Kenosha's in flames. | ||
| It's that you think it is. | ||
| It's that you are constantly afraid. | ||
| And that fear is what's going to lead to situations where some asshole is bringing guns and then he starts shooting people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, they just want you agitated all the time. | ||
| I don't disagree with that agitation being a desired outcome. | ||
| But, at the same time... | ||
| Specifically, what I'm complaining about is that Alex is into globalism. | ||
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He is? | |
| Of course he's into globalism, because it makes sense. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It makes more sense than not. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex makes some shit up. | ||
| Well, you know, doctors have the third lowest lifespan in the United States. | ||
| Sure, why not? | ||
| Gay men, black men, doctors, and then of any profession... | ||
| Doctors live less long lives than combat vets. | ||
| So you can find an article in the Scientific American from 1850s that refutes Alex's claims, and you can find a study from the Office of National Statistics in the UK that definitely also contradicts him. | ||
| Generally speaking, physicians are near the top of most life expectancy tables, and some of the reasons they're usually offered to explain this is... | ||
| They're typically well compensated. | ||
| They have an understanding of health because of their profession, which often leads to healthier choices in terms of things like diet. | ||
| And they have jobs that often require a fair amount of physical activity, walking from patients' rooms and what have you. | ||
| And, not to be discounted, probably a sense of job satisfaction and a certain revered position within society as the healers. | ||
| In almost everything I can find on the subject, people who work in manual labor fields and fields like transportation where you might get exposed to high levels of pollution have much lower life expectancies than doctors. | ||
| Alex seems to just be making that shit up. | ||
| Black men do have lower life expectancies than their white counterparts, but they're also outpacing white people in terms of rising life expectancies, so that number might be a bit closer in the future. | ||
| Let's fucking hope so. | ||
| As for gay men, this idea was a big talking point in the right wing during the 2012 election cycle. | ||
| There was a bit of a trouble surrounding a guy named Bob Marshall, who was running for the 2012 GOP primary, trying to get one of the Virginia Senate seats. | ||
| He was also a huge homophobe. | ||
| Prior to his Senate run, he'd lost an earlier Senate primary, but was a member of the House of Delegates in Virginia, where in 2012 he successfully blocked the nomination of an openly gay man, Tracy Thorne Begland, who had been nominated to be a district judge. | ||
| Marshall justified his opposition to the nomination, saying, quote, You could preside as a district judge for a marriage of two guys if you wanted to in violation of the law. | ||
| Moreover, if you have a barroom fight between a homosexual and heterosexual, I'm concerned about possible bias. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Bob Marshall's a huge asshole. | ||
| I wonder if there would be anything... | ||
| There you go. | ||
| but it's not nearly as bad as it was at that point. | ||
| For some context, the CDC reported 36.3 deaths per 100,000 people from HIV-AIDS in 1995 compared to 2.7 people per 100. | ||
| thousand in 2010 yeah as we make improvements on understanding and treating this condition the gap between life expectancies uh will become even smaller yeah there's a sharp decrease in hiv aids which was the main driver of the decreased life expectancy in the game bisexual men in the 1997 study that was used by bob marshall as a defense for his outright and unjustifiable bigotry since he got heat from the press about it and he stood his ground | ||
| The talking point has since been repeated by members of the right wing when they want to make their homophobia seem grounded in a statistic. | ||
| That's all you gotta do. | ||
| In 2013, the Virginia House of Delegates had another vote and they confirmed Tracy Thorne Begland as a district judge, much to the chagrin of dumb-dumb Bob Marshall. | ||
| Take that! | ||
| Dickwad. | ||
| Anyway, the point here is that Alex constantly just makes up bullshit that he expects his audience to accept as research truth, when in reality most of it is just stuff he's pulling out of thin air or some bigoted right-wing talking point that he kind of remembers hearing at some point. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Nothing means anything. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, the RNC was happening, and Alex was thrilled about Trump giving speeches. | ||
| Proud to say I didn't watch a single second of it, Dan. | ||
| No, I didn't watch the RNC or the DNC. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I don't think I had... | ||
| I just didn't have time. | ||
| I just don't have the heart or the energy. | ||
| I just can't do it. | ||
| I hate them all. | ||
| Well, Alex is really excited that Trump didn't go virtual. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| Trump's not going with the virtual cult event where everybody stays 20 feet from each other, because now six feet isn't enough, and wear the stupid mask. | ||
| So he's being roundly criticized for that. | ||
| It's great that Alex thinks it's great that Trump went ahead with his convention in the middle of a pandemic. | ||
| It's really great and awesome. | ||
| In unrelated news, ABC reported on Friday that at least four people who were at the RNC gathering in Charlotte tested positive for COVID-19. | ||
| Two of them support staff and two attendees. | ||
| Trump originally was planning to give a keynote speech in Jacksonville, Florida, but actually had to cancel that entire part of the RNC because of COVID-19. | ||
| Actually, I lied. | ||
| Trump originally had planned to accept the nomination in a speech in Charlotte, but according to an NPR article from June 11th, quote, President Trump will formally accept the nomination as the Republican. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| He was supposed to give a speech in Charlotte, but got into a fight with the governor about safety precautions in a pandemic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then he moved his speech to Jacksonville, but realized there was absolutely no way to do that safely considering the surge of COVID-19 cases. | ||
| Florida's a fire. | ||
| So he moved it back to Charlotte, where at least four people involved got tested positive. | ||
| Well, there you go. | ||
| I can't put this more simply. | ||
| This is stupid shit, and all of it is unnecessary and childish. | ||
| Like, can't that? | ||
| It's just... | ||
| I don't want anybody to die, but you need to be in the hospital at the right time. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| I mean, like, let's get them in the hospital when something big was going to happen so they can't do anything about it. | ||
| Just keep them away. | ||
| Just keep them away! | ||
| Like, sitting down and realizing this back and forth of Trump's RNC plans, like, how stupid it is. | ||
| It's in the middle of a pandemic, Dan. | ||
| I felt really intensely embarrassed. | ||
| Oh, no, every morning. | ||
| And I think it was even worse than, like... | ||
| I traveled abroad when Bush was president. | ||
| I was an American in Europe when Bush was president. | ||
| I was embarrassed then. | ||
| I feel very similarly now. | ||
| This is very embarrassing. | ||
| I did a set in London, because that was our third week doing the show. | ||
| It was pretty early. | ||
| It was pretty early on, and I did a set in London, and the very first words I said were just like, I'm American, I'm sorry. | ||
| Just sorry, guys. | ||
| And I feel that ten times more. | ||
| Ten times more right now. | ||
| So, do you ever Google yourself? | ||
| I Googled myself one time. | ||
| Didn't go well. | ||
| Well, you learned your lesson. | ||
| I think Alex Googles himself a lot. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| You know, every morning I sit there and my wife's like, why do you like Googling your name? | ||
| And I said, I don't like it. | ||
| It's like waiting to be punched in the stomach. | ||
| I need to see the new lawsuit, the new attack, the new deep state operation against us. | ||
| It's part of the war. | ||
| Sorry, Googling yourself is how you find out you've been sued? | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| Fire your lawyers. | ||
| Get somebody to mail it to you first. | ||
| Also, man, if he Googles himself, there's no way he doesn't know about this show. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Constantly Googling yourself. | ||
| Starting your show with red alert, red alert, red alert. | ||
| That's such a... | ||
| I don't understand those guys. | ||
| People get off on that shit of just constantly scrolling through to see what terrible things people are saying. | ||
| Yeah, it's very unhealthy. | ||
| It's like you reading the reviews of our show. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's not a healthy behavior. | ||
| No, not always. | ||
| So Alex has a bit of a guest. | ||
| It's not a guy I'd heard on the show before. | ||
| And in advance, I'll tell you, dude sucks. | ||
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Thanks for having me, Alex. | |
| There's a guy named Drew Hernandez who was on the scene in Kenosha. | ||
| And his claim to fame is now that he got some of the videos that have been circulating. | ||
| And so the right-wing media is really amplifying it. | ||
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And it's obvious that these Marxist agendas are now beginning to play out in our real world. | |
| When I showed up last night... | ||
| Literally, right when I showed up, there's a gigantic, there's like three huge garbage trucks just lined up on fire. | ||
| And then out of nowhere, there's this police squad truck that's being surrounded by Black Lives Matter militants armed with, it appeared to be AR-15s, multiple, literally just pointing them at the police officers as if they are policing the police, as if there's some kind of new shadow police that's policing the streets. | ||
| So Alex has taken some calls and now he has this guest on his show and we're at about the hour 40 mark of the program and as these two are talking I realize that Alex hasn't even mentioned Jacob Blake's shooting at all. | ||
| There's plenty of discussion of these BLM and Antifa rioters and how they're apparently the new cops in the city but if you were listening to this in a vacuum You couldn't be faulted for thinking there was no incident that sparked these protests. | ||
| This episode is from August 24th, and approximately 5.10pm on August 23rd, Jacob Blake was shot in the back multiple times by a Kenosha police officer while three of his children were in the car. | ||
| Thankfully, Blake survived, but according to his father, he's paralyzed below the waist and it's unclear if he'll ever walk again. | ||
| I'm not really interested in litigating the arguments about whether or not Blake is a great person or whether or not it matters if someone has a knife in their car. | ||
| The bottom line is that nothing the people have suggested to justify this justifies a police officer shooting someone like this. | ||
| There's a reason that people were protesting and some of the property damage broke out. | ||
| It's because yet another unarmed black man got shot by the cops and there wasn't appropriate action being taken against the officers involved. | ||
| The officer who shot Blake was put on administrative leave later, but it's clear that people weren't accepting that as an appropriate response. | ||
| The cop fired seven bullets at this guy. | ||
| There's no reason to think that that wasn't something he thought could kill him, or at least, you know, at least it's incredibly negligent in weapons use. | ||
| Whether this was a cop trying to kill a person, or a cop who's incompetent enough to shoot a person like this, that's not someone you really want on the streets with a gun and a badge. | ||
| Kenosha's not my city, so I have no right to say what they should or should not demand of their officials and law enforcement, but if I lived there, I don't think I'd be satisfied with administrative leave as a response. | ||
| I think you could probably go by the Geneva Conventions and do a better job than what's going on. | ||
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Globalism. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, the point here is that Alex hasn't talked about that really at all. | ||
| That's a surprise. | ||
| No, that's a big piece of context, Dan. | ||
| He's kind of pretending that the protests are just happening randomly, which is irresponsible. | ||
| It's probably a flash mob, Dan. | ||
| It couldn't possibly be an organic response to something. | ||
| It seems really weird. | ||
| Anyway, Drew Hernandez, straight up sucks. | ||
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I believe Black Lives Matter is a black supremacist movement. | |
| That was about all I needed to write off everything this dude might say. | ||
| Just fuck this dude. | ||
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Bye. | |
| So he hosts a YouTube show called Lives Matter, and it's basically all just videos. | ||
| Boo! | ||
| Sorry, I just had a visceral boo right there. | ||
| All his videos just have like clickbait-ass titles that all appear to basically just be anti-left-wing content. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Anything that seems progressive, let's make a video talking about it being stupid. | ||
| It's a boring grift, but it's gotten him on Alex's show, and according to his Twitter feed, it appears that he was invited to be a guest on fascist sympathizer programs like Tucker Carlson and Tim Pool's dumb webcast. | ||
| Great. | ||
| This guy's a real shithead, and looking over his Twitter feed, it just makes me sad. | ||
| He posted a video from Breitbart about people yelling at Rand Paul with the caption, quote, racist BLM terrorists intimidate Rand Paul and his wife all the way to their hotel. | ||
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Holy fucking Christ. | |
| You can hear the racist BLM woman in the background making vile threats, which actually reminds me. | ||
| How many days? | ||
| It's been quite a while. | ||
| It has been a while. | ||
| We needed to check in on whether or not Rand Paul is accepted. | ||
| 8.30. | ||
| It's August 30th, so that puts us at almost a full month. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Maybe a little bit more, and Rand Paul is... | ||
| Run away from more people than debates that he has accepted. | ||
| I think that's 100% true. | ||
| I don't know if you can confirm this, but I heard a rumor that actually that whole situation with Rand Paul, it was people demanding that he debate me. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| That's why he was running so fast. | ||
| Didn't you see him scared for his life? | ||
| That's how terrified he is of debating me. | ||
| So if you go to Drew's his Twitter page, you can scroll through these videos from Kenosha about the marauding mobs of protesters and a lot of it is pretty laughable. | ||
| There's a video purporting to be people trying to torch a house and it's just a firework. | ||
| There are a number of videos that are supposedly depicting leftist Yeah, it's hard not to shake with rage whenever you see the twin nightmares of the far right. | ||
| Them being the out-and-out aggressors. | ||
| The nightmarish fascists with their boots on everybody's fucking throat. | ||
| And at the same time, them being afraid for their lives. | ||
| They're terrified. | ||
| They're the victims of all this violence. | ||
| They're so scared. | ||
| It's a sparkler, Dan. | ||
| You can't even buy those in Illinois. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a real cringy post where he tweeted a trailer for Dinesh D'Souza's new film and said, quote, Dinesh D'Souza red-pilled me in 2016. | ||
| 2020 is now your turn. | ||
| That should make you weep for yourself. | ||
| Look, you can get red-pilled. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| But if Dinesh D'Souza's doing it, you suck even for you. | ||
| Yeah, you're a fucking dork. | ||
| You suck. | ||
| On the lighter side, there's a hilarious string of four tweets from the night of August 23rd where Drew repeatedly posts that he's either in Minneapolis or Minnesota, all of which have replies from Drew saying, quote, Correction, Wisconsin. | ||
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He was out in Kenosha and he kept saying he was in Minneapolis or Minnesota. | |
| It just doesn't matter. | ||
| It just doesn't matter. | ||
| Yeah, there's an amazing level of incompetence that's completely accepted by right-wing propagandists to need people to build their narratives. | ||
| Accepted, celebrated, lionized, worshipped. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I don't think that Tucker is going to get him on and brag about... | ||
| Claiming he was in the wrong state. | ||
| I mean, just in general, incompetence is a weapon for them, not a deficiency. | ||
| You're not going to bring it up. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| But you're going to allow it because he's doing what you want him to do. | ||
| Yeah, you don't need to worry about it. | ||
| If you don't ask questions that you don't want to hear the answers to, they might as well not have happened, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What made me stop my research into Drew Hernandez was a tweet that he posted about one of the protesters in Kenosha who was shot on Tuesday night. | ||
| I know people have decided to play the game where they take people who are shot and point to something that they may have done in the past that makes them somehow deserving of being shot, and that's disgusting. | ||
| But it's also pretty standard and boring that people are doing. | ||
| Drew, on the other hand, is a sociopathic monster. | ||
| On August 27th, Drew posted a video he apparently shot of Joseph Rosenbaum, one of the people who was killed in the shootings. | ||
| Rosenbaum was arguing with someone, and he was yelling, shoot me at them. | ||
| Drew tweeted this video saying, quote, technically Mr. Rosenbaum gave consent to be shot by militia. | ||
| Cool! | ||
| Fuck this dude. | ||
| Wow! | ||
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Yep. | |
| Wow! | ||
| I understand this kind of thing. | ||
| You know, like, when we talked about the shooting of Lavoie Finnicum during the Malhur Wildlife Refuge standoff, I bet we mentioned that he kept yelling at the cops, you're gonna have to shoot me. | ||
| And that might have been, like, someone might see that as distasteful. | ||
| I feel like the difference here, though, is that we didn't make jokes less than 48 hours after he was killed, and Lavoie was reaching into his jacket pocket, where police did find a loaded semi-automatic. | ||
| Also, the footage that Drew's making a joke of, it's from earlier. | ||
| It's not connected to the shooting itself. | ||
| Fuck this guy. | ||
| Fuck this guy. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's the type of shit where you're just like, you, I've given up on. | ||
| There's no point. | ||
| You're gone. | ||
| I have no interest in talking to you or you existing at all to me. | ||
| Yeah, but he's not the only one who has some first-hand experience with streets. | ||
| We hear about another city that's going to be covered. | ||
| Savannah Hernandez and Greg Reese have been kicking butt in Portland with their own just insane stuff in the street battles. | ||
| They just got back late last night. | ||
| They're going to be in studios, so it's all crazy. | ||
| And by the way, when I tell you you need storable food, We have the best quality, ready to ship. | ||
| Are we back to food? | ||
| Yep, storable food. | ||
| We're back to food! | ||
| Well, you gotta get scared of these things that are going on in the streets. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| You're gonna overthrow the government and you're gonna need food. | ||
| Man, I should've known food was coming back. | ||
| Drew is really annoying, I would say. | ||
| His vocal patterns very... | ||
| I wasn't a fan. | ||
| No, they rubbed me the wrong way, and here's an example of it in action that just is like, ugh. | ||
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So my message right now to people that might be, you know, sitting on the fence, just hoping that Donald Trump will fix it or just hoping that, you know, like guys like myself or Alex Jones or Savannah Hernandez or Owen Schroer will fix it. | |
| How old are you? | ||
| We can only do so much. | ||
| We can only say so much. | ||
| We can only cover so much. | ||
| It's the everyday American that has to stand up, that has to speak up, that has to get up. | ||
| And do something and say something themselves. | ||
| That's why we have our freedoms. | ||
| That's why men and women that have gone before us have bled and that have died for this moment, Alex. | ||
| For this moment. | ||
| Because whenever freedom is on the line, sacrifices have to be made. | ||
| And that's where we are in 2020 right now. | ||
| I mean this with all the disrespect that my words imply, but this Drew guy is the worst to listen to. | ||
| Once more, we enter the breach on this St. Crispin's Day. | ||
| Dan, we're gonna do it, guys! | ||
| I think Alex is eating lunch, so he's just letting him talk uninterrupted for long stretches, and you saying how old are you is really appropriate, because... | ||
| Just think he sounds like a child whining. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| He sounds like a child whining about how life isn't fair because someone took a toy He likes away Nobody's nobody's casting this dude is William Wallace. | ||
| Let's put it that way He just starts talking and then he starts exciting himself when he ends up getting into the topic of how important he is And how Trump is fighting a Marxist takeover of the country and honestly I don't think even knows of Marxism is no this dude has the buzzwords down He gets that most of the right-wing media personas job is It's trying to incite anger from the left. | ||
| But beyond that, I see no evidence he has any idea what he's talking about. | ||
| Until I can find evidence to the contrary, I'm going to picture him as a little cartoon of a child in a sailor suit who's yelling that he wants an oversized lollipop. | ||
| I was going to go with the baby with the cigar, but with a higher pitched voice. | ||
| Yeah, it could be. | ||
| So, fuck that dude. | ||
| Now, Savannah Hernandez comes in and discusses the time she had in Portland. | ||
| And let me tell you... | ||
| Did she go to a record store? | ||
| No. | ||
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She should have. | |
| Although there is a real twist to her tale. | ||
| It was like a civil war out there. | ||
| And you know, Alex, you always use the word deranged when you're talking about these leftists. | ||
| And I was talking to Greg about this when we were there. | ||
| You always say that they're deranged, they're demonic, they're foamy at the mouth. | ||
| And I always thought it was a bit dramatic. | ||
| But going to Portland was exactly that. | ||
| The people there are demonic. | ||
| They're evil. | ||
| They're angry. | ||
| They're deranged. | ||
| This is tough because by the time this episode is being prepared, there was a shooting in Portland on Saturday night. | ||
| At this point, I don't know enough about it to say who the victim was or who the shooter was, but it appears to be yet another unacceptable act of violence that may have been involved in some protests. | ||
| If it was a right-wing person who pulled the trigger, then I hope they get arrested. | ||
| If it was a left-wing person who did it, I hope they get arrested too. | ||
| Killing people is not cool. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| That said, beyond my generalized opposition to killing people, I have no idea what the circumstances of this are, so I really can't comment on much more. | ||
| I do want to just say that Savannah can go fuck herself, because she didn't go to Portland to report on anything. | ||
| She went there to hang out with Patriot Prayer and the Proud Boys. | ||
| Deeply and almost entirely about stoking fears and heightening tensions surrounding these street protests. | ||
| Alex spent a long time yelling about the car dealership in Kenosha burning, but ignored the shooting of Jacob Blake. | ||
| Then he interviewed Drew Hernandez about how he was in Kenosha, and BLM is a black supremacist group. | ||
| An interview that was very clearly intended to paint the protesters in Kenosha as an existential threat, not just to some buildings, but to the very existence of America. | ||
| Then he has Savannah in here talking shit about running around some weird assholes in Portland. | ||
| It's weird, and I'm almost certain it's not intentional, but this is one of the most singularly focused episodes of Alex's show that I've heard in a long time. | ||
| There's some random instances of him getting lost in the woods a little bit, like talking about TB or nurses, that kind of thing, but in terms of the content he's actually dedicating time to, it's pretty much entirely left-wing protests are the biggest threat in the world. | ||
| Looks pretty bad in hindsight. | ||
| I mean, for fascists, probably. | ||
| I think one fundamental thing that drives me insane about these people is just like, oh, the left-wing protests! | ||
| They're foaming at the mouth! | ||
| They're demonic! | ||
| One side of the line has medics, and the other one doesn't. | ||
| Well, actually... | ||
| One side... | ||
| He cares enough about people to have medics. | ||
| You'll learn. | ||
| And I would guarantee this, through fucking clenched teeth, if one of those Patriot Prayer people went up to a medic needing assistance, they would fucking get it. | ||
| Yeah, I believe that's true as well. | ||
| I don't know if the right-wing side of things doesn't have medics, so I don't want to say that for sure. | ||
| But... | ||
| Savannah actually has some bad news for you. | ||
| Oh, what's that? | ||
| Those aren't actually medics. | ||
| Oh, of course not. | ||
| Well, of course that's the trick, isn't it? | ||
| Those are secret Antifa. | ||
| Of course they're secret Antifa! | ||
| But we'll get to that later. | ||
| Oh, God! | ||
| So, one of the things that I think is really interesting, too, about the framing of these people as, like, demonic foaming at the mouth and stuff. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Is that... | ||
| Savannah has to wrestle with the idea that a lot of people in Portland who aren't involved in the protests support them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So how do you do that? | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| What a lot of people don't know is that the people in those neighborhoods are actually encouraging the marchers. | ||
| They're standing on their balconies and their porches and they're clapping. | ||
| They're saying, you're here, you're doing a great job. | ||
| Thank you for everything that you do. | ||
| And that's what made me realize that they've been allowed to do this for so long. | ||
| Oh yes, blue cities attacking the rest of the country. | ||
| Exactly, exactly. | ||
| That's exactly what this is. | ||
| The people in Portland have allowed this to fester and turn into this huge mess. | ||
| And they're now trying to branch out off into the rest of America. | ||
| They're planning on going to Kentucky. | ||
| We've seen them. | ||
| In Charlotte, they were in Wisconsin, and they're going to continue to branch out the closer we get to the election. | ||
| So it's not that these communities understand what these protests are actually about, and they're about issues that have directly impacted their lives, and they support what is going on. | ||
| No, it's an attack on the rest of the country. | ||
| I'm really starting to think they're just ignoring that Portland has a Democrat mayor that is essentially condoning the violence against protesters at this point. | ||
| If not outright encouraging it. | ||
| Doesn't that seem like something that they would... | ||
| Jordan, that's way too much detail. | ||
| You are right, that's true. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| We can't do that, because all we're doing here is making broad swings. | ||
| Sure, it's blue cities. | ||
| Anyway, Antifa, super organized. | ||
| Everyone says that it's not an actual group, but they're better organized than most businesses. | ||
| They're so organized, they're secretly organized. | ||
| And it's so well organized, Alex. | ||
| The media keeps trying to tell us that Antifa is not a well... | ||
| Organized militia that Antifa is fake. | ||
| Well, me and Greg went and witnessed they have Vehicle convoys, they have people on mopeds, they have their own press. | ||
| They're very well organized, they know exactly what they're doing, and they're coming to your neighborhood. | ||
| Because this is the Democrats' plan to take over the election, to take over America. | ||
| Every single day we see a new city being burned down. | ||
| Can you imagine a new city being burned down? | ||
| I mean, literally, who will be ruling over you in a FEMA camp is one of these degenerate child molesters. | ||
| Because most of them, I've studied their MO, they're child molesters. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Most of them studied their MO. | ||
| Studied the MO. | ||
| Doesn't mean anything. | ||
| I really... | ||
| Man. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I wonder what Jesus would have done if Facebook was around. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He would have been like, let's hold on with the violence here, guys. | ||
| But, I mean... | ||
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You gotta put it with all this fucking... | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So, in this next clip, we get confirmation of something that I had suspected from the beginning, and that is that... | ||
| They just went to Portland because they're friends with the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And, of course, that's the case. | ||
| Gregory says as much, and then he brings up something that took me in a flight of fancy. | ||
| Savannah's been bugging me forever about going somewhere and getting into the heat. | ||
| Mostly she was talking about Portland, but then just recently she was talking about Chicago, and I just asked her, why not Portland? | ||
| And then we just asked our news director, Rob Dew, if we knew anything about... | ||
| Perhaps the Proud Boys going to Portland or anywhere. | ||
| And then he inquired and right away got a reply that they were going to Portland, which was the first we heard of it. | ||
| So we immediately picked Portland. | ||
| You picked Portland because you asked, hey, where are the Proud Boys going to be? | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| As a reporter, I wanted to present a balanced view of how the Proud Boys are the best people on the planet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I really had no interest in anything else. | ||
| They're fun. | ||
| They like me, not them. | ||
| That was obvious, and so I was more surprised that he just directly said that. | ||
| Seems kind of gauche. | ||
| Come to Chicago, buddy. | ||
| Come on, dude. | ||
| Now, that would have been fun. | ||
| Come on, Savannah. | ||
| I would be interested to see if they'd run away from me. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| They wouldn't recognize you, but the moment they would hear your voice and be like, No! | ||
| It'd be like a radio guy kind of situation. | ||
| That's making way too much of an assumption of broad familiarity. | ||
| They don't actually listen. | ||
| They have no idea. | ||
| The flight of fancy that I had was involved with me running into them and then just talking about 2009 narratives. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like talking about stuff that used to be really important. | ||
| Like being an old info warrior. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And being like, hey man, we need to fix this stuff. | ||
| Do you know about these roads? | ||
| Shit like that. | ||
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So try to slide your way through? | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm a classic InfoWars fan. | ||
| I don't like this new Coke shit. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| I'm done with your stochastic terrorism. | ||
| I wouldn't even pretend to be... | ||
| Wouldn't even bring it up. | ||
| I would pretend that I still think InfoWars is what it was in 2009. | ||
| I pretend like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, people talk about Trump. | ||
| Yeah, great, great, great. | ||
| What I'm concerned about is that goddamn road. | ||
| Are they going to still build that road? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to talk about the ports. | ||
| I wonder how they would respond. | ||
| I bet they'd, one, have a complete grasp of all of those narratives. | ||
| Just completely forgot. | ||
| What am I supposed to think about this? | ||
| We totally understand our editorial position. | ||
| What days were those? | ||
| Yeah, I just think that would be really fun to part back in. | ||
| Drew Hernandez was nine in 2009, Dan. | ||
| So, in this next clip, this is where my mind got blown listening to this. | ||
| Savannah Hernandez was apparently on the scene and there for a monumental event. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But what I want people to notice, too, because there's a guy, there's a reporter for Vice right now. | ||
| I guess one of the Proud Boys came and broke his fingers with a baton. | ||
| First off, he was in the heat of the battle. | ||
| I was standing right there. | ||
| I got that exact same shot. | ||
| Yeah, they throw themselves in the middle of a battle and then selectively go, I'm a victim. | ||
| Exactly, but I want to point something out. | ||
| So Antifa has this very well figured out. | ||
| They have Antifa press. | ||
| A lot of the people in those videos that have press helmets and press vests are not press. | ||
| They're with Antifa. | ||
| So, this supposed vice reporter that Savannah is referring to is... | ||
| I think I know who we're talking about, Savannah. | ||
| Robert Evans. | ||
| Oh, shit, our worlds are getting too close to each other. | ||
| Very strange. | ||
| On August 22nd, when he was out reporting on the confrontation that was going down between the Proud Boys and the left-wing protesters, a guy who has since been identified by Bellingcat just started swinging his baton around and hit Robert, breaking his hand. | ||
| I've watched a fair amount of Robert's streams from the protests that have been happening in Portland, and I don't think it's fair to say that he's, quote, With Antifa. | ||
| Obviously, he's opposed to fascism, so there's that. | ||
| But he does make a point to bring up that when he's reporting, he doesn't get involved in the protest outside of helping someone who's hurt. | ||
| Even if he supports one side. | ||
| There's a press hat he's literally and figuratively wearing. | ||
| What's interesting to me, though, is that let's pretend Robert is actually there, quote-unquote, with Antifa. | ||
| If that's true, how's that any different than what Savannah's doing? | ||
| Greg Reese said they chose to go to Portland because they could hang out with the Proud Boys. | ||
| She's there with the Proud Boys. | ||
| She's explicitly and definitively there as someone posing as a journalist who's actually with a group. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| It seems very weird that she's basically pointing a finger at Robert, which, if anyone takes a second to think about, is an indictment that applies even more to herself. | ||
| She's not very good at this. | ||
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Don't think too hard. | |
| What they're doing is what we're doing, but they're doing it, so it's okay that we're doing it. | ||
| I also reached out to Robert for comment. | ||
| As of press time... | ||
| I learned that he does not work for Vice. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was going to say, he wasn't there for Vice! | ||
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No. | |
| I wrote him, my question was, how do you respond to the accusation that you work for Vice? | ||
| I do not work for Vice. | ||
| So yeah, that's interesting. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| And the thing about it, though, is they so well know why they have to have, you know, there have to be independent press on the ground. | ||
| Everybody knows why somebody like Robert Evans has to be there. | ||
| Because you can't fucking trust an outsider. | ||
| You can't trust a national news media source because that's not what they're for. | ||
| Well, and there's a lot of people who... | ||
| Feel a calling towards certain... | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But if you, you know, it's just you can't rely on the information, and you definitely can't rely... | ||
| You can't allow Infowars to fucking control the narrative. | ||
| There's some of that. | ||
| So you gotta have to have an independent press. | ||
| And one of the things that I think is really interesting is Savannah goes on to talk about this a bit, and she never names Robert, but it's very clear that's him. | ||
| I mean, like... | ||
| Broken finger. | ||
| Broken hand. | ||
| And the video that she was there. | ||
| It's all that. | ||
| So she's clearly only talking about him and then gets into how there's fake press. | ||
| Then she goes on to talk about how this fake press sets things up and then records it and then presents it as if it's something that's happening devoid of the context of them staging this stuff. | ||
| Which isn't saying that Robert's faking all this stuff. | ||
| But it certainly implies that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, that's interesting. | ||
| In this next clip, Savannah gets real dumb. | ||
| It's real dumb. | ||
| She's really bad at this job. | ||
| Donald Trump basically is allowing this to happen in these cities because he's forcing people to say, okay, we need police, we need your help, we need law and order. | ||
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It's the only thing that's going to change anything. | |
| He made the perfect choice. | ||
| Savannah is, like I said, not good at this. | ||
| If you follow what she's saying, and then Greg Reese and Alex are agreeing with, she's describing what Alex has said is the globalist's plan for the last 20 years. | ||
| It's called the Hegelian dialect, or the problem-reaction solution. | ||
| For Alex's entire career, he said that the globalists either create or allow a problem to happen, which will elicit a reaction from the public, then magically the globalists will be ready with their solution, which was their plan all along. | ||
| One example of this thinking in Alex's conspiracies would be the whole coronavirus outbreak. | ||
| He believes that the globalists created this virus and or hyped it up, which is the problem. | ||
| This problem would lead the public to having the reaction of begging the government to find a cure. | ||
| And they would create a vaccine which would actually secretly be a weapon and or microchip, which is the solution. | ||
| From the jump, they wanted to vaccinate everyone, and in order to get people to accept this, they created a problem which would elicit the reaction that allowed their solution. | ||
| This is exactly the pattern that Savannah is describing with Trump. | ||
| If you take what she's saying, the problem is Trump allowing these protests to get out of control. | ||
| Which will lead to the reaction of the citizens begging Trump to come in and put down the protests and establish law and order, and Trump's solution will be an unconstitutional crackdown and deeper slide into authoritarianism. | ||
| These people are fucking stupid, even within their own stupid world. | ||
| Anyone who listens to this show with any critical thinking capacity would hear Savannah describe that situation and immediately say, Hold on. | ||
| If Trump is intentionally allowing these protests to escalate in order to create a situation that he can use, That probably means that he's wanting to do something he couldn't get away with if the protests weren't out of control. | ||
| Any half-decent conspiracy theorist should have a ton of alarm bells ringing immediately. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| It's probably not a problem, though, since I have to assume that Alex's stupid show has already weeded out the listeners capable of abstract thought. | ||
| But goddamn, Savannah! | ||
| Well, I mean, it's when you don't have any creativity whatsoever, your enemies can only be doing your ideas. | ||
| And since your ideas are uncreative, you're just, by telling me what your enemies are doing, you're just saying what you are only capable of imagining. | ||
| She's not... | ||
| You're not supposed to define your enemies the same way as your hero. | ||
| Problem, reaction, solution, Hegelian dialectic, is explicitly bad. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's something the globalists do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not what your heroes do. | ||
| It's manipulative. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And destructive. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it is, well, I mean, what can we say? | ||
| Purposefully killing off your citizens. | ||
| It's not something that's like... | ||
| Ah, mom tricked me into eating my vegetables. | ||
| That's not the Hegelian dialectic! | ||
| If Trump is doing this, then you are just telling me that Trump is murdering people. | ||
| So, there you go. | ||
| We get to Savannah saying something else that's, like, really weird. | ||
| This is a very important election, probably the most important election in our history. | ||
| The American people have gotten comfortable because Donald Trump has been in office, but they need to realize that they are the last line of defense, basically. | ||
| We need to keep President Donald Trump in office and we need to fight for our country. | ||
| I would love to ask Savannah who exactly she's talking about, who's gotten comfortable. | ||
| People feel comfortable right now! | ||
| I would say the billionaires maybe, but I don't know if I can think of anyone else, regardless of their politics, who seems legitimately happier than they were four years ago, including Alex. | ||
| No one is happier! | ||
| Isn't the entire premise of Alex's show supposed to be that the public is suffering because of the globalists running a fake virus outbreak that's tanking the economy and starving everyone, and simultaneously Soros-funded militants are attacking multiple... | ||
| cities around the country and have hit teams ready to take out all the conservatives. | ||
| Who's comfortable? | ||
| Oh, it sure as shit. | ||
| It's almost like he's been really bad for everyone, and yet they just can't admit it. | ||
| Such bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| So comfortable. | ||
| I can't think of how these have been the most comfortable years for everyone, right, Dan? | ||
| America's just been so fucking comfortable. | ||
| That's why we're having the most important election in our lifetime, because we're so comfortable. | ||
| So Alex goes to calls while Savannah and Greg Reese are still there, and this caller is, I would say, interesting. | ||
| It starts off promising. | ||
| Yeah, Alex. | ||
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Good day to you guys. | |
| Hey, I just want an emergency message to get out to Trump. | ||
| First of all, I think one of the major things he needs to do is go open Fort Knox. | ||
| Show us the gold. | ||
| Show America their gold. | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| Hell yeah, man. | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| That guy's like me going up to Greg Lee's 2009 narratives. | ||
| We're not doing this one anymore. | ||
| Show me Fort Knox. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| I don't have a gold sponsor. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I just don't care, man. | ||
| Show us the gold! | ||
| Now that's a protest that if the right wing was just walking around, show us the gold! | ||
| As long as it didn't get violent, I think there could be some fun to be having a show us the gold protest. | ||
| Show us the gold! | ||
| March on Knox! | ||
| Yeah, we could have Cuba Gooding Jr. run it and yell, show us the gold! | ||
| Show us the gold! | ||
| Jerry Maguire style? | ||
| You had me at... | ||
| Hell gold. | ||
| So Alex gets another caller who apparently recorded a video the night before that had gotten really popular. | ||
| Alex is super excited. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
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Yeah, Alex, thank you for taking my call. | |
| I actually was on scene in Kenosha shortly after Jacob Blake was shot, and I took the officer getting hit in the head with a brick. | ||
| Okay, well stop there. | ||
| Hey guys, cue up the video of the officer being hit in the head by the brick. | ||
| Thank you for getting in. | ||
| Thank you for holding. | ||
| Tell us what you saw in Kenosha. | ||
| There's no other conversation of the Blake shooting. | ||
| That's a mention that Alex just glosses over because he wants to talk about this guy's video of a cop getting hit with a brick. | ||
| So that's cool. | ||
| How in God's name can you possibly hear those two things back to back and be like, well, definitely show me the clip of the... | ||
| He's unconcerned. | ||
| I would honestly be surprised if he didn't even register what... | ||
| Yeah, I don't even know what you're talking about. | ||
| The whole Blake thing. | ||
| Who's Blake? | ||
| So Savannah, she's complaining about protesters being bailed out and stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so then Alex starts whining. | ||
| There was the ACLU legal observers there. | ||
| Oh, by the way, all the ACLU does is support the destruction of freedom, free speech. | ||
| They worked with Soros. | ||
| They got bought off by the ACLU as a criminal organization. | ||
| Alex, I watched them walk with Antifa and watch them and see who got arrested so they could help bail them out. | ||
| There's also the National Lawyers Guild, who is writing numbers on Antifa. | ||
| Yeah, they were writing their number on Antifa members' arms so they could call them if they got arrested and immediately get let out. | ||
| And that's what's happening. | ||
| Because the power structure is behind them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| And so you could sense that they feel victory. | ||
| They feel like they're running that place and they're winning the revolution. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know what to say. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So. | ||
| So these people who are, one, legal observers, communists, are watching protesters be forcefully grabbed, cuffed, taken to a holding cell, held there for, you know, hours upon hours, and then bailed out. | ||
| And they are saying that is because the power structure is behind them? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Okay, well then now I understand it. | ||
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| So, uh, Alex goes out to break, and this is one of the more damning clips, or one of the more, like, troubling clips, I think, from, uh, this episode, and it's where we end the 24th. | ||
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They think they're winning. | |
| Because all the money, and all the power, and all the chi-coms, and all of Hollywood, and all the blue states, and all the blue city, and all of it, because they're the rebels, everyone's, all the powers, no, you're not the rebels when King George III is on your side, you're not. | ||
| We're the rebels, and we're gonna win. | ||
| But the king! | ||
| We don't want the establishment on our side, a bunch of child molester, devil-worshipping filth. | ||
| Kristen, you're amazing. | ||
| Give your info to the producer, please. | ||
| I want to get you on as a guest. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
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Finally, the police stand now. | |
| We can move against you. | ||
| That is really fucked up at the end. | ||
| Finally, the police stand down so we can move against you. | ||
| That seems to be an expression of, police aren't doing anything, now we get to kill you. | ||
| The protesters who think you're the rebels. | ||
| No, we're the rebels. | ||
| You're on the side of King George, which is my imaginary shadow government. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that was really bad. | ||
| And so we jump to the 25th, and Alex starts the show off in a bit of a mood of existential danger. | ||
| We are in a fight for our lives, so wake up out of your trances. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Wake up and wake others up! | ||
| Snap out of it! | ||
| The Democratic Party is openly calling for the end of the nation. | ||
| They're absolute trash. | ||
| Are you going to let them win? | ||
| We have right on our side. | ||
| We have the truth. | ||
| We have history. | ||
| All we have to do is rally the people now. | ||
| So there is like an intense feeling of like you've got to act. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You've got to do something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One of the things I noticed here on this episode on the 25th is that Alex is continuing to play Trump ads promotionally. | ||
| Here's Trump's latest campaign ad, America First Trump campaign ad. | ||
| It's like high noon to vampires. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| So I noticed that this was continuing, and I kind of think he might be breaking federal election law, whether or not he's being paid to play these ads. | ||
| Yeah, this is a gift in kind, for sure. | ||
| No, I don't even think it's that that's a problem. | ||
| According to the FEC rules, he might be in trouble because of disclaimers. | ||
| There's no disclaimer at the end of the ad that Alex plays that clearly says who paid for the ad, which is a requirement for political advertisements. | ||
| If it's a paid ad by the candidate or their political action committee... | ||
| That needs to be disclaimed. | ||
| And if it's not, then there needs to be a disclaimer that indicates who's responsible for that advertisement airing. | ||
| Like if there's another political action committee that produced the ad, or something like that. | ||
| The FEC guidelines are pretty clear that the exemptions for political ads are pretty limited. | ||
| The only cases that disclaimers aren't necessary are instances where they wouldn't be feasible, like in the case of promotional pens or skywriting. | ||
| have a disclaimer in the visuals of the video. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But Alex doesn't realize that he's doing a radio show and that you can't hear visuals on the radio. | |
| I'm not sure how big a deal this is or if Alex has anything to worry about, even if anyone took this seriously. | ||
| But it's a pretty strong indication that he doesn't care about rules. | ||
| No. | ||
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At all. | |
| No. | ||
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Because there needs to be a disclaimer at the end of that. | |
| There needs to be a lot of stuff. | ||
| So, in this next clip, we get a bit of a disclaimer, not about that ad, but, you know, Alex, he does this from time to time, and I think it's his way, it's sort of like, I'm gonna kill you politically. | ||
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Right. | |
| That kind of thing. | ||
| And I just hope if it really kicks off, like I warned you, don't go down and fight Antifa. | ||
| That's a decoy. | ||
| Remember who did it. | ||
| If you're in a war, you don't go after the privates. | ||
| You go after... | ||
| I would definitely be dishonest if I were to do this episode and not point out that Alex does occasionally say things like that. | ||
| During this time period, this is the only instance of it. | ||
| But from time to time, he will tell his listeners not to go after Antifa if shit gets hot, and that they should focus on high-priority targets. | ||
| I don't find this compelling or exculpatory, though, because he also says that his audience should make kill lists of protesters, and says that the government has right to kidnap people in Portland because they're enemy combatants. | ||
| It's disjointed and self-contradictory messaging, and these occasional comments about going after the big guys instead of Antifa, they ring hollow to me when compared to the massive time he spends yelling about his violent fantasies regarding what he wants to do to left-wing protesters. | ||
| His metaphor also doesn't make any sense. | ||
| In war, you absolutely go after privates. | ||
| No, haven't you seen giant battles? | ||
| They're always fought between the... | ||
| There are stats on this that are pretty easy to find. | ||
| Yeah, generals are always... | ||
| Nobody lives less time than generals, right? | ||
| That's the way it goes. | ||
| The Congressional Research Service released numbers about military casualties, and up to July 2020, there have been 2,349 active service persons killed in the embarrassingly named Operation Enduring Freedom. | ||
| Of these, approximately 10% were officers. | ||
| Approximately 50% were rank E1 through E4, and in the army, those ranks are Private, Private 2, Private First Class, and Specialist, so 3 out of the 4 are Private ranks. | ||
| This makes sense, because typically in a war, Private is the only person you're ever going to be able to fight. | ||
| I understand that Alex has these warped commando fantasies where he's sneaking into Soros' secret underground compound and taking him out with piano wire, but that's a childish cartoon way to imagine hostilities actually looking. | ||
| And now you understand the far right. | ||
| We're all John Wick, right? | ||
| Alex is not going to inspire competent spies to infiltrate the globalist homes and perform targeted assassinations. | ||
| No, everybody knows competent spies listens to Infowars. | ||
| The only effect he could really have in the real world is people hurting regular people like themselves because they are privates and the only people for them to fight realistically are other privates. | ||
| The idiot who thinks Alex is smart, that guy does not have access to metaphorical generals and pretending that they do is nonsense and it only leads to... | ||
| A higher likelihood of metaphorical privates being targeted. | ||
| So, I find even these caveats to be... | ||
| They are not caviar caveats. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So now, on the 25th, for some reason, Alex is fine bringing up Jacob Blake. | ||
| And he wants to talk some shit. | ||
| You have the individual that started all the latest rioting in Wisconsin. | ||
| And when I read about this guy the other day, even more has come out. | ||
| He didn't die. | ||
| Jacob Blake. | ||
| His neighbors called him on him. | ||
| He's got sex assault charges, underage sex charges, all these drug charges. | ||
| I mean, a rap sheet 80 feet long. | ||
| I guess Alex has finally decided to talk about this, and it's interesting that he's just spouting bullshit. | ||
| I said earlier that I don't care to discuss the relative goodness or badness of people's actions because that has no bearing on whether or not the police should have shot them. | ||
| Any attempt to play that game is a transparent attempt to justify the police shooting someone, which is what Alex is doing. | ||
| The only thing I want to point out is that Alex is lying about Blake's criminal record. | ||
| According to Fact Check, he was charged with sexual assault against an adult in July, but has not been convicted. | ||
| According to their research, quote, other cases in Wisconsin's court records include a traffic violation and custody disputes. | ||
| The thing about sexually assaulting a minor is something that Alex saw on a widely circulated Facebook meme. | ||
| What someone did was create an image that combined the charge that Blake had opened, which was third-degree sexual assault, and combined that with the definition of third-degree sexual assault in Rhode Island. | ||
| In Wisconsin, that's not specifically a crime that's committed against an underage person, but in Rhode Island, it is. | ||
| This was an intentionally misleading meme that was created in order to make this dude's shooting more acceptable, and Alex is unquestioningly repeating it because he saw this information in a meme. | ||
| He does no work. | ||
| Interestingly, if you can say that someone having a traffic violation and custody disputes is a rap sheet 80 feet long, then I guess Alex has a rap sheet 80 feet long, because that dude has a court date coming up for that DUI. | ||
| In a pretty unpleasant custody dispute in his past. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to think that Alex wouldn't justify his own police murder. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| You know, it's like... | ||
| Fine, do it. | ||
| He's been, okay, he's been sued by the Southern District of New York. | ||
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He's been a terrorist or whatever. | |
| He's been cease and desisting. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He's been sued by family, the Sandy Hook families. | ||
| The cops, according to Alex's own logic, could shoot him at any time. | ||
| And he'd be fine with it. | ||
| He'd go into a fight with a guy named Space Hitler. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He'd kill him. | ||
| I just don't do it. | ||
| I think it's a really interesting thought experiment to imagine Alex reporting on that. | ||
| On his own police murder? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He would not be a fan. | ||
| I think you may be right. | ||
| Well, I mean, it depends on whether he was... | ||
| Metaphorically, he's white. | ||
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Oh. | |
| So, I guess he would... | ||
| He would be against that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God, I hate everybody. | ||
| So, in this next clip, we get the only real instance where Alex brings up the militia in Kenosha. | ||
| And it kind of seems to me like he hadn't read the article that's up on InfoWars. | ||
| He just sees the headline. | ||
| There's no analysis. | ||
| Meanwhile, our militia tries to stop looters and rioters in Kenosha. | ||
| We have that video on InfoWars.com. | ||
| A Ben Warren article, very, very important. | ||
| That's about it. | ||
| That's it, huh? | ||
| It's weird. | ||
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But Alex has other things he wants to spend his time on, man. | |
| He wants to hang out with his new friends. | ||
| This is where I, for one second, I have to, like, stop myself real quick to avoid becoming the conspiracy theory of my own. | ||
| You know, where it's like, isn't it suspicious that that's all he said about it? | ||
| Like, that kind of feeling of, like, it's conspicuous in its absence is... | ||
| That took a second to get over, but there was that part of me that's like... | ||
| So much confusion is going on. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| So much is going on, you can kind of convince yourself. | ||
| Weird, but it's such a consistent behavior of his to be completely oblivious. | ||
| Why would he know? | ||
| He's not going to read his own articles. | ||
| Why would he read a repost? | ||
| Of course he doesn't. | ||
| And like I said, he doesn't give a shit because he wants to hang out with his new friends. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He's clearly got a new class of people, grifters, who are entering his circle. | ||
| One of them is Deanna Lorraine. | ||
| Alex actually does later say that she's going to be working for InfoWars now. | ||
| So congratulations on that hire. | ||
| We got a new rainbow snatch, huh? | ||
| Out with the Shadowgate, in with the... | ||
| Oh, bad news when you find out how into QAnon Deanna Lorraine is. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Alex hired another Q weirdo. | ||
| She's going to turn out to not like Q for a little while. | ||
| Alex is going to deny hiring her later. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I was going to say, we're going to get into a real independent contractor situation pretty soon. | ||
| And then the other person who I get the sense is probably either going to get hired or Alex wants to hire is Ali Alexander. | ||
| Who we saw come up on a recent episode, and he's back, and man, this dude sucks. | ||
| I've never seen, I'm just really trying to think about it, you know, 20 years on the internet since I was 14, and I don't think I've ever seen such a justified shooting in my entire career, or in my entire time on the internet. | ||
| And so, this was a bad guy who did a bad thing, and the cops did the last thing they ever wanted to do. | ||
| And you and I both know, you know... | ||
| You know, you gotta empty the mag. | ||
| And they didn't. | ||
| You know, seven bullets sounds like a lot. | ||
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What? | |
| So he's talking about Jacob Blake shooting and they didn't shoot him enough times. | ||
| You gotta empty the mag. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I was thinking who I wanted to be hired for InfoWars is somebody with the same vocal patterns as Owen Troyer. | ||
| But somehow a more annoying voice. | ||
| He's very condescending and also a real religious zealot. | ||
| We'll get into some more of that down the road. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| The last thing they wanted to do. | ||
| The problem is that it's not the last thing that they want to do. | ||
| There are a lot of other things that they want to do. | ||
| Also, I take issue with... | ||
| The most justified shooting I've ever seen. | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| The most justified shooting. | ||
| Alex discusses a little piece of video that he saw where someone was putting out a fire in, I believe, a dumpster with a fire extinguisher. | ||
| Or maybe spraying some of the fire extinguisher. | ||
| There's a couple clips that he plays. | ||
| Anyway, Alex says he should have used a shotgun. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Video! | ||
| Kenosha man punched by a rioter for trying to protect his business from being looted. | ||
| They're trying to set it on fire. | ||
| He has a fire extinguisher. | ||
| He shoots it at him, so they stop breaking the windows out, and they beat him. | ||
| Hey, dude, you should have been there with a riot shotgun, okay? | ||
| I mean, seriously, that's how you defend your businesses, is with a shotgun. | ||
| So, it's sort of thematic. | ||
| It never occurs to them that there are other ways to handle conflicts. | ||
| It never occurs to them. | ||
| Like, it's just gun. | ||
| Gun. | ||
| Well, there's one other way, actually, that Ali brings up here that's not good. | ||
| Here's the problem, Alex. | ||
| This is what keeps me up at night, is these people exist. | ||
| And I just keep thinking, an election's not going to change that. | ||
| A thousand arrests is not going to change that. | ||
| These people still exist. | ||
| And, you know, if we don't hunt and find all of them... | ||
| And we don't put them in prison. | ||
| And these people will continue to exist. | ||
| They will continue to be menaces to society. | ||
| So, apparently, there's a roundup. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Kind of sounds a lot like what Alex said the globalists were going to do back in 2009. | ||
| How many people voted in 2016? | ||
| Look, man, I mean... | ||
| So that's 50 million at least that we're rounding up and putting in prison forever? | ||
| But isn't it interesting how we, like, you just have almost the sort of... | ||
| The bizarro world appearance. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Because you have Alex building his entire career, yelling about how the globalists wanted to round up all the gun owners and Christians and patriots. | ||
| And now he's allowing a guest to say, like, all these left-wing people, my problem is they exist. | ||
| We need to round them all up so they can't be a menace to society. | ||
| It's like, do you not recognize that, like, back then it was pretty clear you were going to become this? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Ugh, what a dick. | ||
| No, they don't recognize, and they don't care. | ||
| And it never worried them in the first place. | ||
| So, the problem, though, is the Democrats, right? | ||
| I'm really starting to feel like it's not. | ||
| They're one of the problems. | ||
| The problem is... | ||
| They're working with the devil. | ||
| That's what you don't realize. | ||
| I didn't realize that. | ||
| The Marxists, the progressive left, Antifa, Democrats, and Satanists are all working together, and media is providing them with sexy propaganda tools. | ||
| And I'll tell you who told them to do it. | ||
| Remember Maxine Waters said, go to their houses, go to the gas station, when they're at the mall, you get in their face. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| We'll be right back with Ali Alexander. | ||
| So that comment from Maxine Waters that Alex is talking about was from June 2018. | ||
| If Alex is trying to take a comment that she made over two years ago and say that these protests are the result of her words... | ||
| How tenuous of a connection does he require to prove causality? | ||
| Zero! | ||
| That's a frighteningly thin case he's making, and honestly, I don't think that the further left types are really that beholden to Representative Waters. | ||
| I very rarely hear my left-wing friends talk about how great she is, but I do hear people like Alex and the assorted right-wing dum-dums I see online complaining about her all the time. | ||
| It is weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Strange. | ||
| It is strange. | ||
| It's almost like they're creating their own thing, not responding to ours. | ||
| So, along the way, Alex is really insistent, basically, that Trump is going to win the election. | ||
| The election, he's going to win. | ||
| With 80% of the vote. | ||
| Trump's going to win it. | ||
| They're going to try to steal it. | ||
| They're going to try to secede. | ||
| It's going to be crazy. | ||
| With what's happening with the COVID lockdown globally and the economy, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. | ||
| You need high-quality squirrel food. | ||
| We have the best company. | ||
| You're going to find quality food for the lowest price. | ||
| Got him. | ||
| So... | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Alex wants to talk to Ali Alexander a lot about Q. Because Alex has some really conflicted feelings about Q. He's got some questions about Q. And this... | ||
| Mic down for this, because it ends poorly. | ||
| But Ali starts talking... | ||
| He makes a metaphor that really confuses me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so it's kind of like a black church. | ||
| Someone shows up 10 minutes late and then sits at the front pew. | ||
| And that's how I look at the Q movement. | ||
| A lot of people who love these causes and love this country and want to investigate things, but they don't want to do the due diligence and they don't want to do the research of the work of the people who have come before. | ||
| Guys, I lost Allie's audio. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Can you talk to me real quick? | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Matt? | |
| Massive legal operation. | ||
| I know the Biden campaign is working on that. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That is abrupt. | ||
| That is a whirlwind of a clip right there. | ||
| Yeah, that dude's mad. | ||
| I got stuck. | ||
| I don't understand that analogy whatsoever. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's racist somehow. | ||
| Well, it seems... | ||
| I guess it's like that... | ||
| It sounds like it is. | ||
| There's something racist there. | ||
| I think it's like the stereotype that he's saying that all black people are late all the time, right? | ||
| Isn't that what he's saying? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
| What's wrong with him? | ||
| Well, I thought it was a take that was along the lines of like... | ||
| Black churches are well-intentioned people who don't want to do the due diligence and research of the people who came before them? | ||
| Because that's how he described the Q stuff. | ||
| But he just said that they sat in front of the pew after ten minutes. | ||
| Ten minutes late is... | ||
| You're coming late to the black church so you don't understand what's going on. | ||
| He came to the Q movement late, so he doesn't understand all that's going on with the intricacies of it. | ||
| Oh, that's not hard. | ||
| You open with songs, man. | ||
| Ten minutes, you're still primed for the good stuff. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I couldn't understand the metaphor. | ||
| I don't understand it whatsoever! | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| He's never been to a black church, that's for fucking sure. | ||
| More importantly, perhaps, like, Alex, I've not heard him just storm out like that. | ||
| He didn't even say go to a special report. | ||
| He needed to fuck to the crew. | ||
| Mom's mad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| So, Alex... | ||
| Everybody is in timeout. | ||
| Alex plays a special report. | ||
| He comes back, and thank God they do get Ali back, because... | ||
| Yes, thank God for that, Dan. | ||
| Well, because he needs to explain that metaphor. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And thankfully he does. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I I made a joke 10 minutes ago on the show and I said, you know, it's kind of like the black church. | ||
| You show up 10 minutes late and you sit in the front pew. | ||
| And I think that that's what we have a little bit in the Q community. | ||
| And what people like you and I have said, people who have built our careers in this, survived, you know, vicious media taxes, is like, hey, if you have something good, you're still going to have these infiltrators. | ||
| And what we saw actually a month ago is one of the very, very popular Q people. | ||
| His name is Educating Liberals. | ||
| I don't want to throw him under the bus, but his name is... | ||
| Dylan Wheeler was a very, very big Q person, and now he's not only turned on Q, he's turned on Trump. | ||
| He says that Trump is a Freemason and a satanic pedophile. | ||
| Close enough. | ||
| People like you and I have warned that, hey, if you investigate some of these issues, you are going to get a little paranoid if you're not working with other people who have verifiable information or sources that you can vet. | ||
| You're going to end up in the wrong place. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Stay there. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| So that whole thing about the big QAnon account deciding Q sucks and that Trump is a demon should probably be a wake-up call that this is a community that elevated this person for no reason other than that he was saying the things they wanted to hear. | ||
| This isn't just some person who turns out they're an infiltrator or something. | ||
| It's an indictment of the entire community. | ||
| Oh, no, it's because they did such good betting. | ||
| No, it's not based on any kind of research or truth. | ||
| It's just people on the internet reassuring each other of their shared delusions and violent retribution fantasies. | ||
| Also, clearly, I initially misunderstood that black church comment. | ||
| I don't think you did, because that didn't make any more sense. | ||
| No, it doesn't, but my initial assessment wasn't right, clearly. | ||
| I think he's trying to say that black churchgoers are the ones who did the work and the research, so they're there, and they're the old-school conspiracy theorists to know about the Bilderberg Group and all that and whatever. | ||
| Then, there are people who are getting into queue, are the people who show up late and sit in the front row and don't understand, aren't really... | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| It's a weird metaphor that doesn't really track. | ||
| But I think it's not as bad as I initially thought. | ||
| I guess not. | ||
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It might not be that racist. | |
| Here's what I think we got stuck to. | ||
| Too far in the weeds on this one. | ||
| Well, I like things to make sense. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| This guy's just never been to a black church. | ||
| He could be. | ||
| So that's my problem before we even get into the meaning of the bullshit that he's saying. | ||
| Maybe you've seen a few movies. | ||
| He has never been to a black church. | ||
| So this episode now descends into a very boring gripe session between these two about how Q has been wrong about stuff and the followers can't admit that Q is wrong about anything. | ||
| I hate them. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| It's mind-numbingly idiotic. | ||
| Do not do that to me. | ||
| And I don't care about it at all. | ||
| Do not do that to me. | ||
| It's painfully transparent as an attempt on Alex's part to try and attract some Q people to his revenue stream, so I don't care. | ||
| Anyway, Alex has got another guest. | ||
| All right, Chad Prather is our guest on YouTube. | ||
| Chad Prather, P-R-A-T-H-E-R. | ||
| And on Twitter, watch Chad. | ||
| He's got a successful popular show, The Blaze TV and more. | ||
| He's a successful national comedian and, of course, country and western. | ||
| They got both types. | ||
| Great musician. | ||
| We'll play one of his music videos dealing with the lockdown. | ||
| What a multi-talented guy. | ||
| Country musician. | ||
| Comedian? | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Talk show host on Glenn Beck's channel? | ||
|
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Hmm. | |
| Weird. | ||
| Anyway, here's a joke. | ||
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They're comparing Texas now, saying we need to be more like South Dakota. | |
| They don't have South Dakota toast. | ||
| They don't put South Dakota flags on a bikini. | ||
| We don't make waffle irons in the shape of South Dakota. | ||
| We do that for Texas. | ||
| We are Texas, by God. | ||
| Side note, Chad Prather is running a doomed campaign for Texas governor based seemingly entirely on his opposition to wearing masks and his anger at Governor Abbott for taking COVID-19 seriously. | ||
| Also, second side note, South Dakota is basically a rectangle. | ||
| So if you wanted to make a rectangle waffle and say that it's South Dakota, you could do that. | ||
| Also, maybe these other states don't make all this dumb shit shaped like their state because they're not painfully insecure and in need of constant reassurance that they're the best. | ||
| Also, the Texas waffle maker isn't made in America. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Also, I've seen that joke kill too many times. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| That hurt me to listen to, because that gave me flashbacks of sitting after hosting a set, watching the feature murder on a line like that. | ||
| Just wondering, what am I doing with my life? | ||
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Fuck it. | |
| What am I doing? | ||
| So, Chad is talking, and he is a guy who, I mean, obviously is a comedian, so I don't know exactly how much of his commentary to take literally. | ||
| Like, some of it might be him fucking around. | ||
| Until you're funny. | ||
| Everything's literal. | ||
| That's the way I'm going to take it. | ||
| Funny can be pretty subjective. | ||
| There's a lot of things that I don't think are funny, but I can still look at and be like... | ||
| I get that this is an attempt to be funny, and maybe someone with a different sense of humor would laugh at this. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| And that's kind of tough to track sometimes. | ||
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Not for me. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Not with Prather. | ||
| So anyway, Chad, he seems to be pretty focused on the idea that Peter Strzok, the FBI agent, wasn't bullied enough when he was younger. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| And this leads to an enlistment of people to take the fight to the enemy. | ||
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Sure. | |
| That right there. | ||
| That's the effect of an anti-bullying campaign right there. | ||
| That's when you're afraid to stand up for yourself. | ||
| When you're afraid to punch somebody in the mouth, this punk kid right here, he wouldn't have survived on my playground. | ||
| I can tell you that right now. | ||
| And people can call me a bully all they want to call. | ||
| They can say whatever. | ||
| But no, we stood up to guys like this because, as you said earlier, these are the true bullies. | ||
| And we're not going to sit there and bow down to them anymore. | ||
| That's done. | ||
| That's over and done with. | ||
| We're not doing it. | ||
| And I encourage every American, every true patriot out there that can hear my voice right now, I'm giving you permission to stand up for yourself and take the debate to them. | ||
| Win it. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I don't know if it's a debate when you're talking about bullying and shit like that. | ||
| I will tell you this right now, Dan. | ||
| In no culture throughout history have the funniest people been the bullies. | ||
| They have not been the comedians that everybody aspired to. | ||
| It's a tough combination. | ||
| So this is the last clip here from the 25th. | ||
| And Alex gets into this weird headspace where he's like, yeah. | ||
| Remember when that video went around to me at that chicken place when I was yelling at people? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was the victim in that. | ||
| Sure, of course. | ||
| And then he makes a startling confession just completely casually. | ||
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Sure. | |
| They edited the tape and said that I attacked them. | ||
| The Austin-American statesman went there, talked to the waiters, because I said the second time he threatened me, I said, I want them thrown out of here. | ||
| I'm going to beat their ass. | ||
| They're threatening me. | ||
| They caught them the third time doing it, told them to stop. | ||
| So the statesman had to admit, down in the article, that they confirmed that that guy right there was coming. | ||
| Look at that look on him. | ||
| He looks like Strzok. | ||
| I mean, I'm not trying to say I'm the toughest guy around, but I have beat people to death a couple times. | ||
| I mean, this guy has no idea what he was up against, and he's an idiot. | ||
| Wow, I don't know if my reaction to that would be laughing. | ||
| That's not even technically probably anymore. | ||
| He just outright admitted to beating a man to death. | ||
| Couple of them. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Alex is a murderer. | ||
| Yep, he's a murderer. | ||
| Point of order, the Austin Statesman article that he's talking about did not say that Alex's version of the story is accurate. | ||
| Apparently they should have said that Alex was a murderer. | ||
| Yeah, apparently. | ||
| Every time you have an article about him, self-professed murderer. | ||
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| Why are you even bothering with InfoWars? | ||
| It's two-time murderer. | ||
| Mass murderer. | ||
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Serial killer Alex Jones. | |
| So the Austin American Statesman article says that an employee confirmed that some people made fun of Alex. | ||
| Alex claims that these people were making violent threats against him and his wife, but the article doesn't confirm that. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Alex is lying. | ||
| Some people said that... | ||
| Alex. | ||
| You know, Dan, it's almost like this is what happens when bullies aren't bullied enough when they're growing up. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| I'm sick of these anti-bullying campaigns to keep bullies from being bullied because now he doesn't even know how to be bullied right. | ||
| Give me five minutes on that. | ||
| I'll get you spotted. | ||
| I want to be on the blaze. | ||
| Probably could. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| So now we get to the 26th. | ||
| And the previous night was when this 17-year-old shooter killed two people and wounded another seriously. | ||
| And I was pretty surprised that this is how Alex opens the show. | ||
| And again, I am your host, Alex Jones. | ||
| Well, in a few minutes we'll play you the clip. | ||
| Hillary Clinton has come out openly in a Politico interview yesterday. | ||
| And the video's linked up on newswars.com and infowars.com and said Biden should not concede under any circumstances. | ||
| That's a quote. | ||
| This wasn't a Politico interview. | ||
| Hillary made these comments in a Showtime program called The Circus. | ||
| Alex likely saw a headline about this in Politico and decided that's where the interview is from because he doesn't do any work. | ||
| Hillary said that Biden should not concede under any circumstances, but she wasn't saying anything sinister. | ||
| There's a recognition that because of the way this election is clearly going to be a mess, Biden needs to be prepared for this not to be decided on election night. | ||
| Be ready for the possible legal challenges that could arise like back in 2008. | ||
| Is there, like, a... | ||
| There must be a Clinton signal. | ||
| It's a Google alert. | ||
| It's like, oh shit, some really this news I don't want to deal with. | ||
| Somebody hit the Clinton signal. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Hillary Clinton, we can talk about her forever. | ||
| Is something else going on today? | ||
| That's not important, Dan. | ||
| That's local news. | ||
| Nobody needs to know about that. | ||
| Hillary Clinton is a national figure. | ||
| Well, another thing that Alex talks about when times are tough is internal secret polls. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| And apparently Trump... | ||
| Numbers going up. | ||
| And the way things are going, Trump's numbers internally are going up and up and up. | ||
| Democrat numbers are going down and down and down. | ||
| Their gamble to demoralize and collapse the country is failing. | ||
| That does not mean with 68 long days, it's a long time and a short time, it's rushing towards us, that they aren't going to try to implode the dollar. | ||
| They're doing that around the clock. | ||
| Start new wars. | ||
| Have China start a war. | ||
| Release a new, more deadly virus to shut things down. | ||
| We were only primed for submission. | ||
| With the last eight months of lockdown? | ||
| I sincerely don't think Alex is aware of the fact there was a shooting the night before in Kenosha at the beginning of his show. | ||
| He's opening the program rambling about secret internal Trump polling numbers that show how popular he is and how he's got the Electoral College wrapped up and how the Dems have all these evil plans, like more diseases to throw things off. | ||
| In the early morning hours, three people were shot and two died in Kenosha. | ||
| The shooter was a 17-year-old in town from Illinois who felt like he was part of a militia and that there was some kind of a duty he had to come to a place he didn't live and protect businesses he had no connection to. | ||
| In the process, he killed two people and wounded a third and wasn't even arrested by the police when he tried to surrender to them. | ||
| He left town and was only arrested back in Illinois the next day. | ||
| It's really, really suspicious that Alex isn't talking about this right away because it should be his top story and yet there isn't a hint of it. | ||
| It's very weird! | ||
| But Alex has other things on his mind. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Namely, that band.video links may not work on social media anymore. | ||
| I want to light a fire. | ||
| It's our live coverage weeknights, 7 to 9. They don't want that getting out. | ||
| So the way you do it is with this new URL that is band.video, all the videos with their own new URL, censored by Jack. | ||
| So, I mean, this is the whack-a-mole game that will go on forever. | ||
| Basically, once there's enough awareness of the sites Alex is using to evade bans, he'll create another URL. | ||
| And then, eventually, people are like, oh, that's just Alex's new site. | ||
| And that'll get banned, and then it'll do it again. | ||
| It'll just repeat over and over again. | ||
| It's a little bit like antivirus software. | ||
| It's like, you're always going to be losing because they have the initiative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're always creating a new thing, and you're always reacting to it. | ||
| There's a profit motivation to infecting people's computers. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| And there's a profit thing that Alex needs in being able for his links to be spread around despite him being kicked off social media. | ||
| To infect people's minds. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So now we get to 35 minutes into the show, and this is when the first mention of the shooting comes up, and it's all just about self-defense. | ||
| Now I'm going to get into the earth-shaking news and the incredible stuff unfolding in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and the response by the media, and the fact that a young man went there and was reportedly attacked repeatedly on tape. | ||
| And then he shot and killed two people, reportedly. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| Being killed is on tape. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Attacking him, running him down with a weapon. | ||
| The other man had a pistol in his hand. | ||
| He blows the man's arm almost completely off. | ||
| That individual lived. | ||
| So imagine someone's chasing you down the street with a pistol. | ||
| You turn around and shoot them. | ||
| And the... | ||
| Governor's calling for his arrest. | ||
| The police say they're getting ready to make arrest. | ||
| So the running down the street in the shooting happened after the first guy was killed. | ||
| So I exclude that from really any relevant conversation about self-defense or him being scared because someone was swinging a skateboard at him so he had to kill the guy. | ||
| Because the preceding incident of someone dying by his hand, being shot by him, Seems more relevant. | ||
| So, honestly, to be perfectly honest with you, I have zero patience for the arguments like this that Alex and Tucker are trying to make. | ||
| To me, this situation is one where you have to approach things with almost an elementary level of questioning. | ||
| Some people got shot. | ||
| So the first question is, who shot them? | ||
| It was a 17-year-old dude who thought he was a militia member. | ||
| The next question is, why did this guy shoot these people? | ||
| And the answer seems to be that he felt threatened and scared by them. | ||
| So the question then begins to be, why did he feel threatened by these people? | ||
| And like I said, for the later shootings, it's obvious because people were chasing him down because he'd already killed a guy. | ||
| So it's best just to focus on the initial incident. | ||
| From everything we can tell, the answer is that the victim was chasing him and threw a bag at him. | ||
| The next logical question from there is, why was this person chasing him? | ||
| And I don't know the answer to that question from the available information. | ||
| So unfortunately... | ||
| That's a dead end. | ||
| That means you have to ask some branching questions. | ||
| And the first one is, why was the shooter there? | ||
| And that's a tough question to get a sensible answer to. | ||
| He claims he was there to protect businesses, but he's not from Kenosha, he's from Antioch, Illinois. | ||
| Antioch is in northern Illinois, and it's only like a 40-minute drive, but it's still crossing state lines, and from all the reporting I can find, there isn't any personal connection between the shooter and the businesses, so it appears that the answer to that question of why he was there and he felt so strongly about protecting buildings that may or may not be damaged and he has no relation to, that he crossed state lines with a gun to make sure that no property is damaged, it just seems weird. | ||
| I would say that it sounds unbelievable, but it's a 17-year-old. | ||
| The next question you might think of is, how did he have a gun? | ||
| In order to legally possess, purchase, or carry a gun in Illinois, where the shooter is from, you have to have an FOID card or a firearm owner's identification card. | ||
| In order to get one of these cards, a person has to be 21 or over, or have the, quote, written consent of his or her parent or legal guardian to possess and acquire firearms. | ||
| That tells us that it's hypothetically possible for him to have a gun. | ||
| According to PolitiFact, he, quote, did not have a permit to begin with. | ||
| So it appears that him just having a gun is illegal. | ||
| He couldn't have received a permit to carry a weapon in Wisconsin at 17, so that's not an option either. | ||
| This is why, in addition to first-degree murder, he's charged with possession of a dangerous weapon under the age of 18. If you trace out the causality chain of the first shooting, there are immediately at least two very serious reasons why the shooter should not have been in a position to be carrying out the shooting. | ||
| He had no reason to be in Kenosha other than a bizarre vague desire to defend buildings, and he had no legal right to be carrying an AR-15 at his age. | ||
| For me, these two aspects of the story make arguments about self-defense feel a little bit hollow. | ||
| And added to that, we don't know what happened before the first video picks up, where the shooter is being chased by the first victim. | ||
| I don't know if there was an inciting incident to that, like who might have been an instigator of whatever happened. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I don't care about this. | ||
| I mean, what I don't care about is the arguments that attempt to center The victims for the crime. | ||
| And it's an uphill battle if you're trying to make that argument. | ||
| I don't see the evidence that would be required to justify that. | ||
| I can't hear them say it. | ||
| It's like one of those things where I know they're saying it. | ||
| They're saying it all over. | ||
| It's in homes. | ||
| It's in garages. | ||
| And it's on fucking TV. | ||
| It is not in garage. | ||
| It's on TV. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I just... | ||
| No one will say it to my face. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Like, they're all saying it where they feel safe. | ||
| Alex is saying this shit. | ||
| Alex would not sit down across from me and say that shit to my face. | ||
| He might. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He just wouldn't. | ||
| They're cowards. | ||
| They're fucking cowards. | ||
| And it's pathetic. | ||
| And it... | ||
| Drives me insane. | ||
| So, on the 24th, Alex was spinning a lot of narratives about how the police are being policed by the protesters and stuff. | ||
| And the police were unable to do stuff. | ||
| And this continues after the fact that there's a shooting. | ||
| And it's because those narratives existed to justify this preemptively. | ||
| And now that it's happened, it's sort of the payoff to those arguments. | ||
| They win. | ||
| The man, and we'll tell you about him in a moment. | ||
| Goes to the police with his hands up and is trying to get to them. | ||
| They won't take him into custody because they're in their own vehicles, their own armored vehicles, not wanting to be shot. | ||
| When the police stand down and you've got thousands of people going through neighborhoods, burning down houses and businesses, raping and robbing, you're going to have the vacuum filled with citizens and you're going to have street battles. | ||
| No, they didn't arrest him because they were afraid. | ||
| Anyway! | ||
| Okay, okay, alright. | ||
| Let's just do this one real quick. | ||
| How many cops were there in full fucking body armor carrying automatic weapons and they're just being, oh, they're just handcuffed by people wearing improvised protecting safety gear. | ||
| Soros' geeks. | ||
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This is pathetic. | |
| The right wing is filled with nothing but cowardice, and it's fucking disgusting. | ||
| You can't tell me that it's all right. | ||
| We're the strongest people alive. | ||
| We're alpha males, and then cry all the time. | ||
| They won't let us kill them. | ||
| The cops need to be protected. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| You know what's really interesting, though? | ||
| As mad as that might make you, it might make you even more mad to recognize that having been like, hey, this is self-defense and all that shit, kind of wants to talk more about how he has a new URL. | ||
| Alex seems more focused on bannedbyjack.com or whatever. | ||
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Cool. | |
| And our tolerance of these thugs and these criminals. | ||
| Has conjured the nightmare we're now facing. | ||
| I'm going to go over it all in a moment, but first, imagine learning yesterday that any video from Bandot Video built their own platform, millions of views a day, you're sharing it. | ||
| He's just spending a bunch of time talking about how we got these new URLs that are able to penetrate social media. | ||
| And I believe that that is a part of, like, Maslow's hierarchy of needs. | ||
| Like, talking about this shooting and stuff, that's important, but... | ||
| It's not eating. | ||
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I need food, so I gotta sell my videos. | |
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| The need for his advertisements in the form of propaganda videos to be able to get on social media is existential. | ||
| His need to justify this shooting is like, well, if we've got time. | ||
| Contrast that to somebody who's fucking... | ||
| Business was burnt down saying 20 or 30 more times. | ||
| Different types of people. | ||
| Different types of people. | ||
| One's apparently the good guys in his mind. | ||
| Well, Alex wants to focus almost entirely on the plight of this shooter and what he is experiencing. | ||
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Tragedy. | |
| Black Lives Matter threatened a family of teen who killed rioters that attempted to murder him. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They'd been already shooting at him, chasing him with guns. | ||
| He killed two of them. | ||
| One guy. | ||
| With a gun in his hand, you can see it right here, got part of his arm blown off because he was physically pointing the gun at him, leaning over him, and the young man shot him with what looks like a 5.56, blowing off part of his upper forearm. | ||
| So it's just all centering on this poor guy is getting mean messages. | ||
| There's no concern or care about the fact that a couple people are dead. | ||
| If you want to entertain this bullshit, I will give you this, alright? | ||
| The 17-year-old did not do this in a vacuum. | ||
| This wasn't something that he just self-generated this idea. | ||
| Of course, he is just as much a gun as the guns are. | ||
| He was fired by all of these people. | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| So if you want to victimize him, you're still the bad guy! | ||
| So, Alex has an interesting relationship with the fact that the shooter did not get arrested and was allowed to leave. | ||
| That is an interesting... | ||
| Because conservatives are always under attack by the, you know... | ||
| They're always being banned. | ||
| The whole aristocracy is against them. | ||
| The establishment is against them. | ||
| Order! | ||
| They're being policed by the ACLU and communists! | ||
| Much like the need to justify the public support of protesters in Portland by saying, ah, they're all attacking the rest of the country. | ||
| When something like this happens, and this white guy who shot a couple people, the police are like, ah, whatever. | ||
| You kind of have to justify that, too. | ||
| And Alex's angle on it is like, well, that's proof that he shouldn't be arrested. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| That's pretty circular. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And Rittenhouse goes over and sits on the side of the street with his hands up, and the police never arrest him. | ||
| But now the media says, oh, he's fleeing. | ||
| We're going to get him. | ||
| I'm sure the police will virtue signal and probably bow and probably execute Rittenhouse. | ||
| Because the police are running the left now in most cities. | ||
| So, yeah, they're going to virtue signal by arresting him for killing a couple of people. | ||
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Whatever. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Anyway, Alex has some good news, what he thinks is good news, and it's really just racism, but whatever. | ||
| Now, he killed reportedly two white people, so it's not going to be as bad. | ||
| My God, the whole country would burn. | ||
| Whites would do it if they were black. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
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I think the whole country should burn. | |
| I'm going to go regardless of race. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| So it won't be that bad, is the sentence a fucking psychopath says. | ||
| That is fucking beyond. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Now, so Alex gets into talking here a little bit about how people are always talking about how you're in Wisconsin. | ||
| This guy, Jacob Blake, you're black. | ||
| You get shot. | ||
| People are way more likely to be shot if they're white. | ||
| And I have bad news for you. | ||
| When those police officers shot that guy in that confrontation that triggered this latest thing, they said, oh, the police in Wisconsin have a long history of indiscriminately murdering black people. | ||
| It's just not true, folks. | ||
| The statistics show it. | ||
| In Wisconsin, you're more than double likely, statistically, to be shot if you're white than black, per capita. | ||
| It's not because there's more whites. | ||
| No, per capita. | ||
| Per thousand white people, per thousand black people, you're more than twice as likely. | ||
| It's BS. | ||
| It's BS. | ||
| This is completely made up and just fabricated from Alex's own warped mind full of white fear and victimhood fantasies. | ||
| You can find statistics about demographics and shooting deaths, and if you look at Wisconsin in 2018, for white people, 8.6 out of 100,000 are killed in a shooting, and for black people, that number is 25.5. | ||
| Maybe Alex is just talking about police-related shootings. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| The Associated Press reported that in 2019, there were 16 people killed in police shootings in Wisconsin, and 11 of them were white, 3 were black, and 2 were Hispanic. | ||
| That sounds like a situation where white people were four times more likely to be shot by the police, but... | ||
| Per capita. | ||
| This is not adjusted for population. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| According to the 2018 census numbers, Wisconsin's population is 87% white, 6% black, and 7% Hispanic or Latino. | ||
| That means that although the population is 87% white, white people only comprise approximately 68% of the police shooting deaths in that year, which is disproportionate to population distribution. | ||
| Similarly, the number for black police shooting victims does not match population. | ||
| Black people make up 6% of the population but approximately 18% of the police shooting deaths. | ||
| The Hispanic population sees the same phenomenon where 7% of the population represents approximately 12% of the police shootings. | ||
| Alex is just making shit up that fits into his predetermined racist narrative. | ||
| He has nothing to back up the bullshit he's throwing around. | ||
| It's just a pathetic attempt to argue that you shouldn't have to care about police brutality directed at groups who aren't white. | ||
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| So very boring at this point, and very racist. | ||
| If I don't like the reality, I will just say it's not. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex takes some calls, and most of them suck, but there's a guy who owns a gun store, who sells guns. | ||
| Wow, that's exciting. | ||
| And he wants to tell Alex that it's too late. | ||
| To buy guns. | ||
| There aren't a lot of guns available on the retail market. | ||
| And one of the points that he makes is actually really a very responsible point. | ||
| And that is that if you want to buy a gun, you have an obligation to train and to teach yourself how to use the gun. | ||
| And that takes ammunition. | ||
| And so if you want to buy masses of ammunition in order to train, you're going to have a really hard time finding that in a lot of markets. | ||
| Alex? | ||
| Struggles. | ||
| There's a weird response. | ||
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Being prepared for that, the good stuff, the double-edged buck, I mean, it's hardly coming in. | |
| Ammunition's going to be back until probably about, look, about February or March. | ||
| A lot of preparedness for getting ammunition in bulk and being able to train and use it is kind of fast right now. | ||
| Well, we're all doomed then. | ||
| Seriously, I mean, anybody can take a shotgun out in the backyard and in the country and shoot coffee cans at 20 yards and learn how to shoot in five minutes. | ||
| I mean, it's pretty – that's why women are taught to be scared of guns. | ||
| So Alex, I don't think, has a respect for teaching how to use guns responsibly. | ||
| I think he probably minimizes that a little bit. | ||
| But the thing that I think is really weird is that, like, Alex should be yelling about how there's no guns. | ||
| Well, he doesn't have a permit. | ||
| He doesn't have a concealed carry, does he? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| We only know that for sure in 2015. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| We don't know that for sure now. | ||
| But yeah, I imagine he has no interest in... | ||
| But part of his brand is making people fear about scarcity and like, there's no food! | ||
| The supply chains are breaking down! | ||
| Right. | ||
| So why is it like, nah, anybody can get a gun. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| He's trying to panic everybody about everything else. | ||
| This makes no sense. | ||
| That is weird. | ||
| Yeah, I don't get it. | ||
| I guess because he doesn't sell guns. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But he never has. | ||
| He sold gun parts at a certain point. | ||
| Yeah, but in the same way, maybe it almost makes him feel good. | ||
| See, guns are flying off the shelves. | ||
| I'm doing my job. | ||
| No, because he would celebrate that back when Obama was president. | ||
| Sure, that's true. | ||
| Everyone's buying guns, and that's a great sign that liberty is on the rise. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Everyone's out of guns because we're buying so many. | ||
| So now we're all going to die. | ||
| Yeah, this doesn't match either of his sides. | ||
| What is he doing? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But we're going to end this episode here, Jordan, with a couple of clips of Alex having another guest. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And it's the same guest. | ||
| Ali Alexander? | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| This weirdo is back. | ||
| I really think Alex is trying to hire him. | ||
| Anyway, here's Ali saying something really stupid. | ||
| You know, the Catholics believe that mass, you know, and we evangelicals just call it church, you know, on Sunday, the Sabbath, is a sacrament, and that it keeps a portal to hell closed. | ||
| And, you know, the Catholics have a prophecy about the restrainer. | ||
| And the Satanists are everywhere burning churches all over the world right now. | ||
| And they get caught and they go, oh, Satan told me to do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who are you people? | ||
| Have you read a book? | ||
| I've been to a number of churches across all sorts of denominations. | ||
| I've been to Jewish temples. | ||
| I've been to Baha 'i temples. | ||
| I've been to mosques. | ||
| I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone be like, well, you know, we're here to keep that portal to hell closed. | ||
| Hey, everybody! | ||
| Just so you know, look, I know this is a social gather. | ||
| We are doing the potluck later, but let's not forget the reason for the season to make sure that this portal to hell stays closed. | ||
| Now, I know that we're all, you know, we all have social lives. | ||
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Of course. | |
| We're all busy, but someone's always got to be here to keep that portal closed. | ||
| You've got to keep that portal! | ||
| The portal closed! | ||
| So I'm gonna need you to take my shift keeping the portal closed tonight. | ||
| So are you telling me that this chain has been unbroken the entire time? | ||
| Nobody's had to take a smoke break and forgot and left the portal unlocked? | ||
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Oh shit. | |
| Nobody has fucked up one time. | ||
| Zero nuclear weapons have had more fuck-ups! | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| So this is the last clip in. | ||
| It's Ali complaining about how people call the devil Lucifer. | ||
| They use those interchangeably. | ||
| How dare they? | ||
| This is just like, this is where I was just like, you guys are fucking assholes. | ||
| And so, I mean, I don't want to get super religious or super spiritual, but the devil masquerades as an angel of light. | ||
| Exactly, that's his old title, Alex, right? | ||
| He was Lucifer. | ||
| Right, and now he is Satan, and now he is the devil. | ||
| He's no longer Lucifer, and we shouldn't use those terms interchangeably. | ||
| That's right, the devil worshippers and Luciferians, they still say he's Lucifer. | ||
| They still say he has that office. | ||
| He's not in that office anymore. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey, don't call them Lucifer. | ||
| He got fired. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm fine with this show. | ||
| I'm fine with it. | ||
| Here's what they do. | ||
| Here's how I allow Infowars to continue on in perpetuity. | ||
| They are allowed to sit there and talk the same way that they normally are. | ||
| However, they are both in dunk tanks. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Alright? | |
| So when they say something stupid like that, everybody gets together and they throw fucking balloons at that dunk tank. | ||
| But it's gotta be for charity. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| And for left-wing causes. | ||
| Every single one goes to trans rights. | ||
| And BIPOC causes and everything. | ||
| It has to be a thing where Alex is mad both about the charitable stuff and being wet. | ||
| And being wet all the time, yes. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I would say I really resented that end of this episode because... | ||
| Just... | ||
| Don't call them both elves, okay? | ||
| There's multiple races of elves. | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| You've got the dark elves, you've got the sardophon. | ||
| It's a weird denial of the circumstances of the world that they're operating within. | ||
| So, I mean, when we come to the end of this, there are obviously things that have happened since. | ||
| This. | ||
| And Alex is probably responding more since Media Matters put out an article about him and the things that are on his radar when people talk about his connection to events that happen in the world. | ||
| So I assume that there is a blow-up in the future coming. | ||
| But if you look at just this section of time, it's really interesting to me because when I ask myself Do I think that there is an actual connection? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I don't think Alex is that interested in the events that are happening in Kenosha outside of what he does all the time. | ||
| It doesn't feel like he behaved in any way differently than he does all the time. | ||
| Now, at the same time... | ||
| His show on the 24th was intensely based on fear about these street things. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And there are things that he's saying that can be taken to be interpreted as calls for people to get involved and do things. | ||
| 100. | ||
| Him saying, now that the police have stood down, we can make our move on you, muttering out to break. | ||
| You know, there are a lot of things like that that are pretty fucked up, but do... | ||
| I think that those things are things that you could make a solid argument that maybe the shooter heard and was like, well, I better get to Kenosha. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think that case is thin. | ||
| Now, that being said, I don't know. | ||
| I said this at the beginning. | ||
| I don't think that's really all that important. | ||
| I think his behavior is disgraceful. | ||
| I think it's just a damn shame. | ||
| And it fits the larger pattern that we discussed at the beginning of this episode, which is those behaviors that are more likely to create outcomes like that. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I just see that we have allowed and sat by while the most profitable media enterprises in the world are stochastic terrorists. | ||
| Like, that's what we've got, so to me... | ||
| To me, it's a matter of timing who you want to blame it on. | ||
| Like you were saying, it's unfortunate timing, unfortunate as it is for them to have reposted that militia article. | ||
| But if this happened two weeks from now, then maybe Tucker Carlson would have posted a similar article. | ||
| It has nothing to do with who individually these people are absorbing. | ||
| Their information from, because they're all getting it from stochastic terrorists. | ||
| It appears that the picture of the ecosystem is far more important than the single plant. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And that makes it really difficult because, I mean, like, there was a time when you could be far more confident in tracing fingerprints of something that was like, that's a Malik shit. | ||
| Totally, totally. | ||
| And that's not really the case. | ||
| There's so much that's like, well, there are a lot of fucking places this dick could have gotten these ideas from. | ||
| Fuck it! | ||
| He could have gotten it directly from the goddamn president. | ||
| If you want to deal with stochastic terrorists, blame it on Trump, too. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I think some people have made that connection. | ||
| And the thing that I think is what I keep coming back to on this is that these articles and these people who are trying to make connections to Alex, I get it, and I don't think they're wrong. | ||
| I think it's incomplete, and I think that the better conversation to have is one that is about the larger ecosystem, if possible. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| And then secondarily, when talking about Alex, don't just talk about, like, In the days before the shooting, he said X, Y, or Z. There's a much fuller picture that is like, he has an M.O. that is operating in search of things like this happening. | ||
| And then when it does happen, he acts predictably by justifying it as self-defense. | ||
| And it's completely predictable, and it's mirrored almost identically by people like Tucker. | ||
| We said it was going to happen. | ||
| And it did, because Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I apologize, but I don't have any phone calls. | ||
| I didn't have time to gather any before the show because we were in a real... | ||
| Time crunch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we got to run. | ||
| But we'll give you double the calls next time. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Maybe. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at KnowledgeFight and at GoToBetJordan. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook. | ||
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| But if you could, please, more importantly, find a local charity or bail fund in your area to support the people doing God's work right now. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
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| I am the juiciest ice cube. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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