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Aug. 5, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#465: August 3-4, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan try to work through the beginning of the week on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex misrepresents some graphs about Covid-19, encourages his audience to "civil disobedience," and suffers an impressively bad technical difficulty.

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alex jones
16:47
d
dan friesen
46:23
j
jordan holmes
18:28
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jesse lee peterson
03:00
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Well, I was at the grocery store the other day.
I went down to a grocery store, and I was looking for some jalapenos.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because I'd like to put some peppers on things.
And look, what did my little eye spy?
jesse lee peterson
What?
dan friesen
But a pepper.
That was very, very uncommon to find at grocery stores.
I found some Carolina Reapers.
jordan holmes
Carolina Reapers.
Straight up Carolina Reapers.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's very rare for me to see those outside of like a sauce or like a dried version.
jordan holmes
A specialty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I've not seen those at grocery stores very much, so of course I got them.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Put some on a pizza last night.
jordan holmes
How did it go?
dan friesen
Pretty serious.
It was a little more serious than I was expecting.
jordan holmes
I like the ambition of it.
I just really like the ambition of putting a really hot thing.
It was a frozen pizza, was it not?
dan friesen
Yeah, it was.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And I dealt with it quite casually in the lead up.
And then I should not have been so capricious.
It was fine.
It was very, very hot.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I could handle that part okay.
I did do some like...
Some of that, like I was breathing and I was having an experience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But the real problem was afterwards.
And not like, you know, I'm not being gross in bathroom.
jordan holmes
You're not being, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This isn't scatological.
dan friesen
There were muscles in my torso that I felt like weirdly tight in.
And I'm like, oh, there's something going on inside me that I'm unaware of.
jordan holmes
So it's like one of those stim pack ab machines.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I'm going to eat another one at some point.
jordan holmes
What kind of fool would you be not to?
dan friesen
Anyway, this is my way of explaining to you why I drank the iced tea that you left here.
jordan holmes
That was the emergency.
dan friesen
You left a can of Arnold Palmer here last night, or the other day, and I had to chug it last night after eating a Carolina Reaper.
jordan holmes
I was wondering what emergency could necessitate an Arnold Palmer emergency, but now I get it.
dan friesen
I understand.
It was the first thing I saw when I opened the fridge.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
What about you?
Oh, but I mean, it's nice to have a ridiculously hot pepper.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.
My bright spot, Dan, is a piece of information that I discovered in my preparation for what I imagine will be, I don't know, the event of the century, which is my debate with Rand Paul.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
Which he is still tragically refusing to accept.
dan friesen
You might be pushing a little hard on this.
jordan holmes
No, I'm going hard.
dan friesen
I might have seen a hundred tweets.
jordan holmes
All day.
All day.
I am just going to bother his social media manager for fun.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
But it turns out Rand Paul has kidnapped somebody, Dan.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, did you know that?
dan friesen
Allegedly?
jordan holmes
No!
Totally confirmed.
unidentified
Allegedly.
jordan holmes
100% confirmed by the person who was kidnapped.
dan friesen
This is something that the kidnapping victim and Jordan are alleging.
I have no part of this.
jordan holmes
No, it is not.
It's published in GQ.
dan friesen
Okay, GQ, a kidnapping victim, and Jordan are alleging this.
jordan holmes
As well as other outlets.
But yeah, he kidnapped somebody when he was in college.
He was a member of an anti-Semitically named secret society.
He and a friend kidnapped a woman, broke into her dorm room, blindfolded her, tied her up, took her to a second location, forced her, or actually just told her that she had to do bong hits.
She had to, and then she didn't.
And then they just took her to a river and told her to pray to Aqua Buddha, and that's the end of the story.
dan friesen
Okay.
Right?
That's an interesting story.
I don't know how this is going to entice him to debate you.
jordan holmes
Ah, no, no, no.
I'm going to use it in my debates.
That will be there.
He is a kidnapper.
dan friesen
Well, you still need to get that coward to agree.
I think we're on day 14 now.
jordan holmes
It may even be day 15. I don't think that there will be any...
It's an inevitability, honestly.
dan friesen
Yeah, certainly.
Much like the passing of the season.
Sure, yeah!
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The eventuality of Rand Paul accepting your challenge to debate.
jordan holmes
We may be running for president against each other.
We may have to debate there.
dan friesen
I could see that.
I could see that happening.
So, Jordan, today we had an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about August 3rd and 4th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
Damn it.
dan friesen
August 4th, 2020 is a fucking train wreck.
It is a disaster on levels that I, like, not from a, like, Alex's out-of-control kind of perspective or anything like that.
It is just, oof, man.
Pack it in, Alex.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
You should quit.
Okay.
dan friesen
You're not doing your job anymore.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I'm excited to get down to business on that, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, we got Bonnie Y.R. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Bonnie.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Dave A. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Dave.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Michael H. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Michael.
dan friesen
Mike A. Thank you.
Next, Ugly Barnacle.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Ugly Barnacle.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Ugly Barnacle.
Next, Joel.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Joel.
dan friesen
Thanks, Joel.
Next, Lee B., thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Lee B. Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Minda, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Minda!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first of all, Michael and Amy combined.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Andrew K., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Michael and Amy, and thank you so much, Andrew Kay.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, all of you.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, Dan, Jordan.
Dan, Jordan, you guys, if you like what you do, I'd like to support the show.
You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show.
We would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
We would.
dan friesen
Yeah, or you could take that generosity, break it up from the stems of it.
jordan holmes
Okay, I was worried that you were rolling a joint right now.
dan friesen
That's what I was doing.
jordan holmes
That's what I thought you were doing.
dan friesen
Roll that generosity up into a spliff.
jordan holmes
Get a little, yeah, sprinkle a little something on top of it.
dan friesen
Sure, and then pass it around to a local charity area that's helping people puff puff.
jordan holmes
Charity.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, before we jump in here, here is an out-of-context drop from today's show.
unidentified
Hey, I need a t-shirt that says, this honky ain't voting for no donkey.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Flash forward to six months from now, Alex is selling a this honky ain't voting for a dog.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
That might be too bad even for him.
dan friesen
Actually, six months is probably too late.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I give it a week.
dan friesen
I don't know.
A week and a half.
I feel like Alex is going to be like, I don't have any better ideas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's probably fair.
dan friesen
Who knows?
This is fucking do it.
So we start on the third here on Monday.
And Alex, I'm going to just give you this in advance.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
In no way takes responsibility for stopping the Antifa attacks that were alleged to have been supposed to happen over the weekend.
And also does not even bring up that they didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
That seems really important to at least mention.
dan friesen
He spent days building up a narrative about how Antifa was going to take over police stations in multiple states.
And they did.
Based on exaggerations that he took from a Boogaloo Facebook group, allegedly.
I don't even know if there was anything on that Facebook group worth getting up at arms about.
alex jones
Does it matter?
dan friesen
So yeah, anyway, that all fizzled out and we got nothing.
jordan holmes
Alright.
So I assume he's going to remove a computer chip from someone today.
dan friesen
No, no.
He's going to start a podcast.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
You know, I've thought about doing a podcast once a week where I don't speak.
From my own analysis of the world, but where I only highlight articles and make that the podcast reading different sections of articles on air and different video clips.
And I intend to do that.
I intend to launch a podcast too.
With callers and listeners of the show.
dan friesen
We know.
We know you intend to do that.
You've intended to do that for about the amount of time that we've been doing a show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
What was it called?
Audiobook of the News?
Was that it?
dan friesen
Something or other.
So his other idea, the other big idea is I'm going to do a show where I just read headlines.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
And that's different?
dan friesen
Because it wouldn't have the parts where he screams.
jordan holmes
Oh.
It wouldn't.
dan friesen
It would.
Yeah.
Undoubtedly, it would be the exact same show.
jordan holmes
So he would just do a show.
He would just release it as a podcast.
dan friesen
I think about doing a podcast.
He could just stop there.
jordan holmes
He only knows how to do one thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So in honor of this idea for this podcast that he has, Alex decides, I'm just going to read headlines for the rest of this segment.
jordan holmes
This is cheating.
alex jones
We've got a lot of things that are important that need to be done.
And a lot of it's because they're facets of the show I've always wanted to do that I've never had the will to do.
Let's see today if I could spend the next nine minutes left in this segment just reading headlines.
dan friesen
He ends up making it.
I mean, he does frequently interject with his own analysis and stuff, but like, okay, what have you proven?
jordan holmes
He can do it.
dan friesen
He can just point to completely disjointed, unconnected headlines and no analysis of it, no context, no...
jordan holmes
What do you need it for?
dan friesen
Man, it's bad.
It's really bad.
It is lethargic.
You can tell the audio is a little bit weird.
There's a strange hum in the background.
Something is not quite right.
And it's all disconnected.
Like I said, these headlines, a lot of them have nothing to do with each other.
But because of the way Alex's mind works, he wants everything to connect and make sense.
You can feel him having trouble just reading a bunch of headlines of stories he hasn't read.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And being like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I like the idea that now Doomscrolling you can also get an audio format.
Just looking at headlines feeling miserable.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also just the impulse to be like, this is all about the same thing.
So on our last episode, we found that Rob Dew, incompetent deposition expert, incompetent news director, real weirdo, drunk at CPAC.
jordan holmes
Right.
Do you have anything nice to say about him?
dan friesen
Drunk at CPAC.
jordan holmes
Okay, well that's not bad.
That's the only way you could get through it.
dan friesen
He's hired a statistician to fudge some numbers.
jordan holmes
So we're still going on statistician.
dan friesen
Oh yes, with the idea of the COVID deaths going up when flu deaths go down.
alex jones
And then let's move on over here.
Scandemic CDC stats show flu deaths dropped as COVID deaths increased at the exact number in every state following NIH guidelines.
And we've had a statistician actually get their own numbers and put it all together.
dan friesen
So that's an example of him not just reading a headline.
And if he was just reading a headline, it would have been an InfoWars headline.
unidentified
So I don't know what you've proved.
dan friesen
And it's interesting to me because Alex has to either know that he's lying or he has to have been tricked by the scale manipulation that the graphs are presented in.
Because the graphs do appear to show...
Sure.
Exactly identical rises and falls.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But they're nowhere near the same number of people.
It's all out of whack.
jordan holmes
Sometimes, somehow I feel like it's both.
You know, like, he knows he's lying, but he's been tricked by the graph, so he doesn't know what exactly he's lying about, but he knows he's lying.
dan friesen
I think that's an interesting possibility, and here's what I would say.
Like, because we can't be certain, it's either a lie or he's so hopeless and lost.
He's helpless.
That's what I mean.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
To the manipulations of things like an image.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That he just doesn't even...
Yeah, he doesn't know where he's at or he's lying.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And either way, fucking ignore it.
So he has another story.
This is kind of one of the big headlines about the news of the day.
And I believe that he got this just from a Gateway Pundit headline.
And it's really dumb.
alex jones
Federal government and Yale are holding clinical trials on how best to persuade, that's brainwash, nudge, push, prod, force, Americans to take COVID-19 vaccines.
In fact, guys, go to an online thesaurus, please, and type in other words for persuade, convince, force, force.
dan friesen
So, there's this Gateway Pundit article about a study that was conducted by Yale about what sorts of messaging is most effective in terms of getting people to take vaccines.
They had 12 different messages that they would give study participants, and then they'd evaluate their willingness to get vaccinated.
The control group was given the message that was unrelated to vaccines, just a, quote, passage on the costs and benefits of bird feeding.
Then there was the baseline group, which would just be giving a straight message about the facts regarding vaccines.
Then the rest of the groups were experimental in nature, ranging from messages about personal freedom to messages about how embarrassing it would be to not get vaccinated.
Sure.
unidentified
This is a pretty standard sort of study, measuring the effectiveness of a particular type of messaging.
dan friesen
Every advertising campaign does this, as do politicians.
And I imagine Steve Pachanek.
Probably.
Any kind of public relations matter is benefited from studying how the public generally responds to a particular sort of message.
This is not weird at all.
Also, as Alex is reporting that this is the federal government, there's no evidence that the federal government is involved in this study at all.
The list of sponsors and collaborators is literally just Yale University.
I think what happened here is that Jim Hoft over at Gateway Pundit found this study on clinicaltrials.gov, and because of the.gov website, he just decided to report that this was a federal government study, and now Alex is just blindly repeating that assertion.
This tells me that neither of them actually went to the study page, which very clearly says at the top, quote, The safety and scientific validity of this study is the responsibility of the study's sponsor and investigators.
Listing a study does not mean that it has been evaluated by the U.S. federal government.
jordan holmes
That's just how they hide that shit from you, though.
dan friesen
And then there's a link to a disclaimer that makes this even more explicit.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Quote, Not all studies listed on clinicaltrials.gov are funded by the National Institutes of Health or other agencies of the U.S. federal government.
Not all listed studies are regulated and or reviewed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration or other governmental agencies.
Information on clinicaltrials.gov is provided by study sponsors and investigators, and they are responsible for ensuring that these studies follow all applicable laws and regulations.
NLM staff do not verify the scientific validity and relevance of the submitted information beyond a limited quality control review for apparent errors, deficiencies, and inconsistencies.
jordan holmes
That's just legalese boilerplate nonsense.
The federal government funds them.
unidentified
They just don't want to be held liable.
dan friesen
We could probably make that assumption based on the fact that it says disclaimer.
As always on InfoWars, this is a story that is a zero, which is being completely misrepresented and lied about in order to make it sound scary to Alex's audience that is addicted to being scared.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, here's where it gets to be a real problem.
Like, that's bad.
But this is just Alex reporting on some news story he hasn't read.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
It's second grade human centipede bullshit.
We're already going through the bullshit of Gateway Pundit.
Now we're getting fed it through Alex's asshole.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Now here's where Alex does his own jazz that really is worrying.
alex jones
Control message.
We need to control this disease.
Baseline message.
We need to lower that baseline.
Personal freedom message.
You'll be free by doing this.
dan friesen
That right there is a clear instance of Alex showing his cards as having no idea what he's talking about.
He's reading that Gateway Pundit article about this study about messaging, and because he's just reading words and making up a story about them, he thinks that control message is a message about control, as opposed to it being the control group of the study.
The same is true about the baseline group.
He sees these words, and he's just reporting to his audience that they mean something completely different than what they do.
This is indicative of failure to recognize what studies even are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he has no clue.
dan friesen
This is an in-depth level of ignorance.
That's scary.
jordan holmes
No, well, if you understood how controls and experiments worked, you'd be like, oh, that's a fairly, yeah, that's a pretty good system.
So you have to not understand how it works in order to lie better about it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's a pretty foolproof kind of, you know, there are controls, there's an experiment, you figure out what's going on.
dan friesen
I don't even want to get into that.
I want to address that this is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, it's terrifying.
dan friesen
Even if you're somebody who loves Alex and thinks like, oh, he's great at this, you should know, like, if you've gone through high school, that control groups...
You know, that's a thing that's in experiments that is in order to test for variables.
Like, you should know that very...
I'm just...
jordan holmes
He was busy fighting satanic influences when he was in high school.
dan friesen
It's staggering.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's bad.
It's bad, but I...
dan friesen
I'm not talking...
I mean, I am talking about Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I'm talking about, like, I can't understand listening to this and that not being a huge red flag.
Just being like...
He doesn't know what a control group is.
jordan holmes
I can understand that.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Because they don't understand what a control group is.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I would argue that most of these people don't actually understand what they're talking about.
Like, period.
On a fundamental level, they don't...
Like, who's the senator that just tested positive for COVID?
Rand Paul?
Yeah, he did.
Debate me on that.
dan friesen
Gohmert?
jordan holmes
But yeah, yeah.
And he's like, maybe the mask itself gave me COVID.
And you're like, whatever.
You just don't understand anything.
You've got nothing.
dan friesen
Perhaps.
So in this next clip, Alex gets to rambling about how it's the end.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
My friend.
My only friend.
The end.
alex jones
This is the end, my friends.
My only friends.
Because of their elaborate plans.
The end.
No safety.
You're going to pay for not standing up for the babies.
You're going to pay for wearing your mask.
You're going to pay for submitting.
You're going to pay hard.
And it's going to get so bad, you're going to finally figure out you better stop a bang.
But then you'll be so domesticated, and everybody else will be whacked out of their brain, that you won't have any faith but to go ahead and take the pill and kill yourself.
Now that's where you're going.
unidentified
And remember, Bill Gates loves you.
dan friesen
Cut off by the break there.
jordan holmes
I think that's a really positive message.
dan friesen
Yeah, certainly.
It's inspiring.
It's the kind of thing you want to hear from patriot leadership.
jordan holmes
Here's what I was thinking.
I was thinking at Valley Forge, George Washington got all of his men together and he was like, look, I know none of us have any feet.
I get it.
It's cold.
And we're all going to die.
We're all going to die.
You are going to die.
You're going to pay for your crimes.
Everyone here is going to die.
Give up.
It's gonna be too late.
We can't even fight the British anymore.
Quit!
dan friesen
Give up!
Yeah, we try and fight the British.
We'll be begging for death eventually.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Or something.
Yeah, it's very...
I don't know.
Not inspiring.
I'm not...
But it is interesting that you just see this sort of, like, this consistent pattern that just keeps going.
Like, there's a fatalism to it.
There's a, we're dead already.
Why value your life in the face of...
The globalists.
It's not good.
It's kind of mid-stage self-destructive cult personality stuff.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
At no point in time did he call it a divine wind or ask you to...
dan friesen
Wait until the end of this episode.
Wait until the end of the episode.
jordan holmes
Look, if you're in your fighter plane, you should definitely not use it.
dan friesen
I'd like you to hold off on such comments.
unidentified
Maybe he's calling for kamikaze attacks is wrong.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, we've already heard.
jordan holmes
That's true.
We have already heard kamikaze.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
dan friesen
The 70-year-old retired military people might have to sacrifice themselves.
jordan holmes
Yeah, walk on in there.
dan friesen
And then even going back to as far as July.
July 8th, actually.
I mean...
Like, I even have this clip at the ready.
Alex has been talking about this for a while.
alex jones
This has all been set up to make you obsolete, to dehumanize you, to suck the life out of you, to dumb you down, to make you pathetic, to take your family away from you, and they admit it!
And I don't want to be part of it!
We have to get control of our governments.
We have to reverse the technocracy plan, the post-human plan.
And if governments won't do it, we have to start talking about what we're going to do and who's going to step up and take one for the team.
I don't want to go there, but we can't just sit here and let these people do it.
The leadership of the globalist operation must be dealt with.
unidentified
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I mean, you're talking about like, is he going to start calling for kamikaze stuff?
He's been...
Dancing around that subject for at least a month.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
And less abstractly for even longer.
But it's been pretty overt lately.
It's been going on a much more overt path, certainly, in the last month.
And so, I mean, it doesn't bode well.
It's not the sort of thing that I'm thrilled about.
jordan holmes
I was just thinking about how Jesus said, like, how you treat the least of these is how you treat me.
And I kind of feel like Alex wants to strap a bomb to the least of these.
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
I don't think it's weird that you're getting that impression.
So, in a little bit sort of more palatable territory, I guess, Alex, I think, is into ancient aliens.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
You know how old the Sumerian symbol of two snakes together?
unidentified
Four.
alex jones
Strand down the middle.
And the Sumerians say that creatures came from another star and showed them how we work and explained this to them.
And so the British scientists all knew this, but they knew to really get the knowledge, they had to take huge amounts of drugs.
They had to interbreed with their most elite families to get their genetics tuned for psychics that were able to interface with these things.
And then they got alien technology through intergalactic space-time communications.
jordan holmes
Keep going.
alex jones
We built a gate or something here on Earth to bring them in, and the Bible says in the end times, the gates of hell will open.
Hell will open!
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And we will be invaded, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
This is just Project Camelot stuff.
jordan holmes
Wow, that's straight up spider leadership.
dan friesen
California wildfires are a cover for alien portals.
jordan holmes
Vietnam War, the whole thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Wild.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Stargates.
Stargates, buddy.
Kurt Russell coming back.
Coming back.
He was going to be in Guardians of the Galaxy.
dan friesen
Now, look, I only trust the most reliable sources, and that's why I want to read to you from Eric Von Daniken.
jordan holmes
Yep.
The Bible even says it.
Dan, the Bible says...
Okay.
dan friesen
My next guest coming up, Zachariah Sitchin.
I think he's dead, but still going to have him on.
jordan holmes
Okay, so if Sumerians predate the Bible, and he's going off them actually meeting aliens, doesn't that supersede the Bible?
You know what I'm saying?
Shouldn't we be listening to the alien folks more than the Bible folks?
dan friesen
Probably irrelevant.
jordan holmes
Well, that's fair.
dan friesen
I mean, just flashbang.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay, smoke bombs.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Alex would get around that pretty easily.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So we get to this next clip, and, you know, I think that there's just a little bit of a racist dance that's going on here.
Alex seems to have a lot of white victimhood narratives in his head, and it leads to this very weird statement.
alex jones
If you're a black guy and the super rare event you're in some town in the KKK does something to you, it's still racist whites coming after you.
If you're a white person in the incredibly common event that a black person attacks you because you're white, those statistics are then covered up.
Because again, that's part of the power play with the globalist deep state.
Because they've got six and a half plus billion people that aren't white.
And so if you just simply convince them to hate white people, you can have them pull down the first world, and then no one has a chance of getting out of any of this.
dan friesen
So that's an interesting perspective.
unidentified
Woo!
jordan holmes
That is racist as shit!
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Damn!
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That was a non-stop...
One, you can't falsify the statement that I'm making because they cover up any proof that you would have of whatever it is that I'm bullshitting.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And the KKK, who even ever heard of them?
What are you talking about?
Where'd they even come from?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then black people are just killing white people all the time.
dan friesen
You'd find some instance of a racist attack against...
A non-white person by a white person.
And now it's like, well, it wasn't the Klan.
jordan holmes
It's covered up.
dan friesen
It wasn't the Klan.
jordan holmes
It wasn't the Klan.
And I believe he is 100% saying that all first world countries are white.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, we already knew that he believes that.
So in this next clip, Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi, is sort of talking about how people should get a stimulus.
And Alex is getting mad about that.
And then he goes real non-sequitur on us.
alex jones
Oh, but she, we need to stand up for the American people.
dan friesen
So that's about Pelosi.
He's talking about her saying we need to stand up for the American people by way of making sure people can eat.
alex jones
When their paid agitators say, no borders, no wall, no USA at all.
dan friesen
So now Alex is implying that Nancy Pelosi is funding all of the protests.
Of people who largely are not fans of hers.
jordan holmes
Sure, no, we kind of all hate her.
alex jones
Blow up the police department in Austin, says the official budget!
unidentified
No, it doesn't.
alex jones
Because, folks, if they can blow up the police station after cutting down all the statues and then take all that money and give it to their leftist organizations, they're seizing power!
And Ilhan Omar said, and then we'll have a new police department under our control.
She said it last week.
jordan holmes
Under community.
alex jones
We'll build something wonderful.
Oh, like you did in Somalia, lady, and we saved you?
jordan holmes
Whoa!
alex jones
Squat on us and piss in our face?
Go to hell, you racist witch.
I didn't plug last hour.
I'm gonna plug right now.
unidentified
Wild.
alex jones
Your financial support is obviously the totals.
All right, guys, we've proven we're in the center of the fight.
dan friesen
Your financial support is the spirit of the times?
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
That's weird.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know why Ilhan Omar needed to come into the conversation.
jordan holmes
Now she's got to be in there.
dan friesen
And I don't know if she set up the Somalian state.
jordan holmes
Of course she did.
dan friesen
I don't know.
As a child refugee, she had a lot of...
jordan holmes
She tore it down around their ears, Dan.
Jeez.
I like to imagine that the city council has like...
Controlled demolition of a derelict police station and then somebody just scratched it out with a red pen and just wrote, blow it up.
dan friesen
Blow it up!
Blow it up!
That didn't happen.
jordan holmes
No, I doubt it.
dan friesen
Also, I checked into it and as of the preparation of this episode, which was earlier today, the Austin budget for the police department still has not been approved.
They've already blown it up.
Nonsensical.
jordan holmes
It's already gone.
dan friesen
So, Alex is talking about man.
Kind of makes sense.
You might have to kill some people.
unidentified
Does it?
dan friesen
Like Fauci.
I mean, come on.
I mean, come on.
jordan holmes
I don't know where you're...
dan friesen
I mean, come on.
jordan holmes
No, don't just say come on.
alex jones
Come on.
jordan holmes
There's no come on!
alex jones
It's serious an issue for me, not because of safety issues, because, I mean, Bill Gates is coming at us with deadly vaccines that he says will hurt us and kill us.
He says we don't have a choice, and he says he wants to depopulate us.
So, anyone coming to try to force me to inoculate you or take your job or not let you fly, they're assaulting you.
They're imprisoning you for not taking their poison.
They're trying to rape you.
And so we are crossing into an area where the default does become violence.
And the person we would talk about would be the front man of this, Fauci or Bill Gates.
That's not my place.
And there could be attempts on their lives that turn them into victims.
In fact, they're probably going to stage that.
That'd be the move I'd pull.
So I don't wish any harm upon them physically, but their names should be destroyed by their own statements, their own corruption, their own words.
dan friesen
Alex tries to be pretty, I don't know, dancey about this, because he's talking about how Trump and the military need to kill these people.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
He's like, that's not my place.
jordan holmes
That's justice.
dan friesen
Although it is interesting that he's like, you know, there will probably be some fake attempts on their life to get sympathy.
That's what I would do.
It's like, no, that's what you would do.
That's what you would do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you think everything is a weird fucking conspiracy game.
alex jones
Spy movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What are we doing?
There's going to be fake attempts on his life to...
Garner sympathy for Dr. Fauci.
Despite the fact that you are preemptively stoking so much fear as a defense against any kind of sympathy for Dr. Fauci.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That is exactly what he would do.
dan friesen
It seems right.
So Alex is dancing around this idea of justified violence and some people gotta get killed, but Trump should probably do it.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's this weird...
I don't know.
He doesn't feel on today.
And so he ends up going to calls, taking some calls.
And this one caller, oh boy, he is mad about snitches in the neighborhood.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
alex jones
Let's go ahead, without further ado, and go to Mike in New York.
Are you in New York State or New York City?
unidentified
Alex, upstate New York.
Thanks for taking my call.
alex jones
Oh, that's a beautiful area up there.
Well, you're blessed like people are in other rural areas.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Well, Alex, you'd think so, okay?
Let me tell you something about here.
There's a reason why people leave their doors unlocked and their cars unlocked because they know everyone up here believes in the Second Amendment.
No one's going to go break it in people's houses up here because they know the end result.
What this governor has done to this state, okay, I live in a small village of 5,000 people.
The same neighbors that I have turned to and said hi to every day are the same ones who have turned me in time and time again since I put up a Trump 20...
dan friesen
20 poster.
Snitches.
Upstate New York, 5,000 person village snitches.
jordan holmes
Did they get this guy out of central casting?
Good heavens.
dan friesen
I should also tell you...
jordan holmes
Talk more like you are from where you're from.
dan friesen
I looked into this a little bit, and there's a number of places in upstate New York that have pretty high burglary rates.
I don't know if what this guy is saying really holds water.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean...
dan friesen
So it turns out...
jordan holmes
You don't even need to bring your gun to the burglary.
You can just steal the gun that's already there.
dan friesen
The doors are unlocked.
You can take a gun from anybody.
Turns out this guy has had some building code violations that he accuses his neighbors of...
jordan holmes
That's just because he put up a Trump flag, Dan.
dan friesen
It must be.
And so he's pretty mad about this.
But he has a retaliation that I think is...
I don't know.
I think it reads way more hostile than he thinks it does.
unidentified
My neighbors.
Three of them here have huge Biden signs, so I put my huge speaker on my fence, beautiful fence, and I loop your, I will eat your ass over and over and over.
alex jones
Beautiful!
unidentified
Because this is what this has done.
dan friesen
You know, like, the thing is, Alex's response shouldn't have been beautiful to that, but that rant was about Alex eating his neighbors.
So this guy putting his speakers up and playing that rant where Alex threatens to eat his neighbors might be construed as a threat.
Ah, man.
That seems pretty threatening.
jordan holmes
Man.
Town of 5,000 people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Town of 5,000 people.
And you're the guy with the place next to this guy.
dan friesen
If my neighbor was playing I'm gonna eat my neighbor stuff over the fence, I would be like, I didn't call the fucking code people.
jordan holmes
No, you're a snitch.
You're a snitch.
And if you call the cops about me on this, you're a double snitch, Dan.
And I'll find another speaker to play a completely different massive threat to your life.
dan friesen
Can you imagine wasting your time with this bullshit on a radio show like you're Alex Jones and you got this angry caller who's like, all these damn snitches saying my garage is an inch too tall or whatever the fuck he's talking about.
Oh, God.
So trivial.
So stupid.
jordan holmes
I mean, right now, what else is going on?
You've got to fill the time.
There's nothing else to really talk about.
dan friesen
No, totally.
And that's why Alex does the calls, and then they're disappointing, and so he ends up saying stuff like this.
alex jones
You know, I can tell you some other stories.
I know somebody that worked at MD Anderson, and he had to stop working there because some of the surgeons Would become basically sexually aroused when they were injecting people with experimental stuff that they'd sign waiver forms that would probably kill them,
and they would get off on killing people, and they'd get off on people missing their lower mandibles who had signed on for experiments to stay alive, and they would go in there, and there's all these people like a zombie movie.
With their tongues, you know, basically hanging out drooling.
And the doctors would just get off on it and then go basically jerk off in the bathroom after they went and saw it.
I mean, can you imagine masturbating to people missing their lower mandibles and their tongues hanging out?
And as soon as you realize that type of psychoscientist is in control, you start turning things around.
So I don't want to tell you stories like this to shock you.
dan friesen
If I'm not much mistaken, Jordan.
This is a family show.
This is for the kids.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine jerking off to people without a lower mandible?
No, I can't.
I can't.
alex jones
You can't.
jordan holmes
Clearly you can.
dan friesen
That spends some time imagining about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a while.
dan friesen
So he gets another call, and this is a lady from California who may or may not have been involved in the Protect the Children.
March rally that took place recently there, from what I understand.
jordan holmes
Which is really, yeah, okay.
dan friesen
Heavily QAnon-y.
unidentified
Wow!
jordan holmes
It was about protecting the children!
dan friesen
I get the sense that a lot of this might be similar to that Irish fascist who is holding an anti-pedophilia rally.
jordan holmes
Well, you can't be against it.
dan friesen
It might have been a little bit of a mask, a little bit of a disguise for the real intention of the...
But anyway, he has this person on.
And he accidentally gets tricked into promoting somebody that he shouldn't promote.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Well, I'm glad you're here.
So start over.
I do know about your group.
Tell us about who you are again.
They're going to try to censor you, but more people must join you.
Others must, again, launch their own operations because the AI isn't washing you until you do that.
And then other people have to be the leader, be the leader.
And as they try to suppress one leader, another leader jumps up.
And then soon they're fighting an army of leaders and they can't stop us.
unidentified
I mean, we're making it as decentralized as possible.
So our site is realdealmedia.com.
dan friesen
So I went and checked out this Real Deal Media website.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And the first thing that I noticed is they have a series of videos.
Their main videos are called the Real Deal Reports.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And this is supposedly a news show, but one of the hosts is Jim Fetzer.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here!
dan friesen
The guy who wrote the book No One Died at Sandy Hook.
jordan holmes
Damn it!
dan friesen
That alone is enough for me just to be like, oh, fuck this shit.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Anybody who would work with a lunatic Holocaust denier like Jim Fetzer at this point is not worth anyone's time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I looked at their about page, though, and this line jumped out at me.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Quote, joining the Real Deal Report is the heavily censored Victorious Libertas, along with contributors Kristen Megan and the health ranger Mike Adams.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
Also, we're not interested in liberty anymore.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Remember?
dan friesen
You can't take it down.
He's deemed it nonsensical.
jordan holmes
Yeah, liberty is stupid.
Take it down.
dan friesen
I think that, from everything I can tell, there seems to be a bit of a schism between Mike Adams and Alex.
Alex isn't having him on.
jordan holmes
Hasn't had him on.
dan friesen
Because of a disagreement that they have about masks and whether or not the coronavirus is real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
dan friesen
And it may be that Mike Adams is now taking his direction to the real deal media, which is...
jordan holmes
If that's a lateral move, Alex...
Alex is in real big trouble.
dan friesen
I don't think that it is.
And honestly, this is doomed.
Like, Jim Fetzer is a real menace.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think he's toxic?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
This will get kicked off YouTube pretty fast.
jordan holmes
I think it's all blown over.
I think it's all blown over, Dan.
dan friesen
Recently lost that lawsuit.
jordan holmes
See?
It's all blown over.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's double jeopardy.
You can't hate him anymore.
He lost the lawsuit.
I'm pretty sure that's how double jeopardy works.
dan friesen
I think it's really, really funny.
That Alex pretends to know what this operation is.
And so he's like, yeah, I'm aware of it.
We need more leaders.
And so he's giving her a platform to promote her shit.
And because he's just bluffing that he knows who the person is, he's promoting somebody that he's supposed to be against because he's getting sued for Sandy Hook stuff.
So in actuality, if you just take it at face value, Alex is promoting Jim Fetzer on his show.
Right now, in 2020.
jordan holmes
God.
There's just no way for him to learn.
He just can't learn.
Just care.
Just a basic sense of knowledge.
Just any kind of awareness.
Just none of it.
dan friesen
There's something so humbling about having to say, I don't know.
Like, oh, I haven't heard of your thing.
What is this?
I don't have universal awareness of literally everything.
And Alex can't open up that vulnerable place.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
And so he ends up accidentally promoting Jim Fetzer in the year of our Lord 2020.
jordan holmes
Pretty sure I'm omniscient, and if there's one thing I know, it's that supporting your little website will never blow back on me at all.
dan friesen
So we got one last clip here from the third, and it's another caller, and this dude is a rambly psychonaut, I guess.
jordan holmes
Rambly psychonaut, alright.
dan friesen
that ends up veering deeply towards blood libel.
unidentified
Hey, what's up, thanks for taking my call.
alex jones
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
I wanna talk about a few things, and it's gotta do with the sex trafficking of the kids Yeah, bro.
Uh-huh.
With that being said, I've done ayahuasca ceremonies, I've done all kinds of research myself on like mushrooms and just everything like, and what's going on in the world right now.
jordan holmes
All right, man.
unidentified
The elite are just like low conscience, like demons and they're possessed and they're drinking off the baby's blood.
Sure.
And it's the DMT and along with the rituals and with everything else.
Naturally.
But when they get ahead of the DMT, it's like the God force.
that's a no-no if I go and do it I can go do it through ayahuasca you listen to Rogan bro but the dudes in the jungle were like dude that's an abomination they told Terrence McKinnon when he showed up with the power powder the smoke like oh my god you can't do this you gotta drink it through the vine and you purge the demons out that's right and the DMT is like a new That's right.
straight healthy.
It's like somewhere along the way, whatever evil snake serpent it was taught them like drink the baby's blood, drink the baby's blood.
alex jones
Well, there's no doubt, and Hunter S. Thompson wrote about this, and it was later confirmed that he really was a lawyer that represented the Satanists, and that he really did give them the...
Concentrated essence of a child's blood.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
The only appropriate response to a caller like that is get help or hang up.
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy!
Click.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's not...
You don't want to be like, not only that, but...
Or like, hey, you make some great points.
jordan holmes
With that said...
dan friesen
I believe that the human spirit oscillates at a certain vibration and it's measurable much like IQ.
Now!
jordan holmes
That being said.
Now that I have made that out of the way.
dan friesen
Now that I have used this bully pulpit for my quantifiable human vibration.
jordan holmes
Now that we can take that as read.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Now we can move on to my next one.
dan friesen
I have mostly said this on a dated radio program, much like sending myself a newspaper in the mail to timestamp.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So here are your options if you're Alex.
You can go, nah, nah, nah, nah, and stop.
Or you can take a big bite of sandwich.
Let him keep talking as long as he wants.
I'm eating my sandwich.
dan friesen
Alright, this guy is going to throw out some the elites are addicted to baby blood narratives, which certainly is not...
Egg roll.
unidentified
That's probably it.
dan friesen
So the third sucked.
It was a waste of a show.
It's mostly in terms of things that happen.
There's calls.
There's that weird Gateway Pundit headline.
jordan holmes
Great work all around there.
dan friesen
Not a great effort.
However, heads and shoulders.
Above the 4th.
August 4th opens like this.
unidentified
August 4th opens like this.
jordan holmes
Dead air.
Okay.
How's the show going?
dan friesen
Not great.
jordan holmes
I think we're off to a good start.
dan friesen
He's been worse.
jordan holmes
That's true.
unidentified
He finally...
dan friesen
Still waiting.
unidentified
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That's 800-406-0046.
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This is not buzz marketing on our part, no.
President Trump says he wants to help communities in rural areas.
dan friesen
He spoke at the White House yesterday.
This is the Genesis Communications news bumper.
This is what they used to play on Sundays for the first five minutes of the broadcast or whatever, before Alex just started doing his thing for the first minutes.
There's some sort of a connection problem.
That he's having with the Genesis feeds, which goes to all of the radio stations that he's syndicated on.
He doesn't get on the radio except through Genesis Communications at their stations and that syndication.
So he's just not there.
jordan holmes
Maybe he finally did have too much news to cover.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
He couldn't open a show with it.
He had too much news to even say he had too much news to cover.
dan friesen
So I was worried about this, and we got the sort of the straight delivery news person for a little bit.
And then Alex's intro music starts.
alex jones
And I went to my dad and people said, I would like to put on a charcoal toothpaste that doesn't have all the silicone and all these fillers.
dan friesen
So this is still a commercial that is playing right before the intro music.
alex jones
Very strong toothpaste.
You've never used anything like it.
Get yours at Infowarsstore.com right now.
unidentified
This is the best episode of Infowars I've ever heard.
dan friesen
So now we've got audio bleeding into each other.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
It's wild.
jordan holmes
This is great.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
Because once Alex starts talking, you have two feeds.
alex jones
I know.
It's Tuesday, August 4th.
The year is 2020.
We are 9-0.
90 is not Earth Rotations.
From this incredible election, strap yourselves in.
There's been a giant explosion in Beirut in a huge mushroom cloud that some thought might have been an atomic or hydrogen bomb going off.
It could be seen from 30, 40 miles and still just away, going as high as 40,000 feet into the air.
That incredible still shot.
dan friesen
This is tough.
jordan holmes
This is great.
This is really great.
I was always wondering.
dan friesen
It was really hard.
It's disorienting.
I fell high.
jordan holmes
No, I'm bummed out by not being yelled at by two Alexes.
I didn't even know we could get two Alexes before now.
We're at, what, episode 450-something or whatever?
Now we got two Alexes.
Bright new generation for our show.
dan friesen
So obviously what's going on here is there's like...
Two different inputs that are going to the feed that goes on to Genesis.
And one of them is a rebroadcast feed of some bullshit or whatever.
And the other one is Alex talking and trying to start his show, though late.
And then somebody fixes something.
But they don't really fix anything.
Because now we just have two feeds of Alex talking.
alex jones
TV viewers can see it on screen.
But the good news is, it's bad news, but not that bad.
There was a fire at the port factory.
And so that is what caused that very ominous-looking explosion that obviously killed a lot of people.
So it's bad news, but the good news is, it was not a terrorist attack.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
At this point, I wanted...
jordan holmes
I think I'm with that dude.
I'm with the caller.
Their consciousness is oscillating right now.
dan friesen
Mine almost oscillated out the fucking window listening to this shit.
unidentified
Like Alex with just a weird echo is hard.
dan friesen
It is hard to listen to.
jordan holmes
I did not understand or hear a word he said.
dan friesen
No.
He's talking about Beirut and our thoughts and prayers as trite as that sort of expression is.
Unreal.
Our best wishes are with everyone there.
Bananas.
But there's not a whole lot of analysis of that on this episode, shockingly.
jordan holmes
I imagine not.
dan friesen
That's my sound effect for fast-forwarding.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We now get to 20 minutes into the episode.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
I am your host, Dallas Jones.
And what I'm going to do for the rest of this segment is read through these headlines.
jordan holmes
Today!
unidentified
I consider myself the luckiest host in the face of the air.
dan friesen
Yeah, so 20 minutes in, we're still struggling with this issue.
And Alex has decided that he's going to read headlines.
jordan holmes
Great!
dan friesen
Like he did on the day prior.
He's like, that felt really good just to read some words.
jordan holmes
Maybe he's broadcasting from the Grand Canyon.
dan friesen
No.
He's in studio.
So now, fast forward, 33 minutes in.
alex jones
This is a very complex issue.
If you get into all the minutiae.
dan friesen
I just can't listen to this.
And obviously we can't play it on the show like large chunks of him double.
jordan holmes
It can't happen.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
But it's great.
dan friesen
I went and I found the video and the video that's just like from like on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is fine.
That isn't fucked up.
jordan holmes
There's no hologram of Alex sitting in the other chair.
dan friesen
I wish there was.
unidentified
That would be amazing.
dan friesen
That would have been great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And one of the problems with that is Trying to take the audio from that would have taken too long for us to put out Tuesday's episode on Wednesday.
And so there just wasn't a way around that.
I was like, okay, well, eventually maybe he'll put it up on band.video where it's easier just to download from.
But it just wasn't coming.
And so we just had this unlistenable pile of shit.
And I would have thought that, alright, maybe he doesn't even know.
At the same time, I thought that was impossible because there was two different audio problems that happened.
And so there was one problem that was two different feeds.
Someone had to have fixed that and got it to the point where there were two.
And then Alex just kind of freaks out.
alex jones
So I'm going to start over next segment because I'm going to need that map on the wall.
I'm asking for other fake COVID system.
We'll do it next segment.
We'll do it next segment.
I may just have to leave today.
This is not drama stuff.
In fact, I'm going off air.
jordan holmes
Oh, you fixed it.
alex jones
I mean, seriously.
Wow.
Unbelievable.
Let's go ahead and go to this special report.
We'll see what happens.
I'm going to have to push back other graphs I have for next time because I've got to do this whole graph on COVID-19 here that I needed.
jordan holmes
Land that plane, buddy.
alex jones
Let's play clip 14. Thanks.
Clip 14. And then after that, whatever you like.
We learned that Mueller...
dan friesen
If you didn't know that this audio was coming out like this, that would have been completely out of left field.
That would have been, like, I don't know why he's mad.
I don't know what is going on.
But if you know that the Genesis feeds, which go out to all of the radio stations, were playing double audio, like, yeah, it makes sense.
Alex would be fucking pissed off right there.
Although it is very interesting that he's like, I'm just going to start over, and then it's fixed.
jordan holmes
Right then.
Okay, it must, I swear to you, that was a prank.
That was a bet.
Somebody made a bet.
They were like, okay.
How long do you think it'll take before A, he notices, and B, he freaks out?
And the moment he noticed and freaked out.
dan friesen
37 minutes.
unidentified
Fixed it.
jordan holmes
Fixed it.
Immediate.
Click.
It was one button press.
It was boop.
dan friesen
37 minutes of just bullshit.
jordan holmes
All right.
It was tough.
50 bucks.
All right.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back.
Now the audio is fixed.
And he has this idea that's very similar to our old friend Larry Nichols.
And his idea that whenever the shit goes down, if you're a senator, you're a duke.
jordan holmes
That's right.
That's true.
dan friesen
And if you're the president, you're the king, and your wife is the queen.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And then Don Jr. would be a jack.
jordan holmes
In the Constitution.
And a deck of cards.
dan friesen
Yes.
And Alex has a sort of similar idea about whoever has the most inflated currency at the time when the shit goes down.
And I don't really care about this idea because he doesn't really spell it out very well.
You'll see exactly why I kept this clip once it's over.
alex jones
Whoever ends up with the EU over-inflating its currency, the Communist Chinese over-inflating their currency, they're all doing it.
Whoever ends up with the dominant global currency, who can flood the world with the most of their currency, who can be on top when it all goes down, will be in charge.
Like after World War II in Bretton Woods for another 70, 80 years.
And you can say it's a corrupt system.
You can say it's fiat.
The very Federal Reserve that set it up is getting rid of our hegemonic power now to give it to the Chi-Coms and themselves completely.
They're done with us.
Like Darth Sidious done with Count Dooku.
We're being flushed down the toilet.
dan friesen
You couldn't come up with a better reference than Count Dooku?
Alex is a damn prequels guy.
jordan holmes
He's a prequels guy.
That's wild.
That's wild.
unidentified
Just...
dan friesen
Dooku.
jordan holmes
Just letting Dooku die.
dan friesen
Right off the top of his head, Darth Sidious and Dooku reference.
jordan holmes
Of course!
Not Emperor Palpatine, by the way.
Not Emperor Palpatine.
He does not say Palpatine.
He doesn't even say Supreme Chancellor Palpatine.
He says Darth Sidious.
dan friesen
And Dooku.
Man.
jordan holmes
Man, he is definitely a prequels guy.
dan friesen
He loves them.
jordan holmes
That's a real bummer.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Of course he is.
Of course he is.
He is the inversion of all that is good and right in the world.
That's just reality.
dan friesen
So Alex says this, you know, he said he needed this map up.
And what he was really talking about was like graphs.
Because he has his COVID flu stat narratives.
jordan holmes
What is a graph but a map of numbers, Dan?
dan friesen
And man, look.
We can talk all we want about Alex revealing that he doesn't know what control groups or baseline groups are.
jordan holmes
No clue.
dan friesen
In this next clip, he seems to be presenting as a person who doesn't know that flu seasons exist.
alex jones
Let's go to the new numbers from May and June and July and now going into August.
Here's numbers for Arizona.
And you can see how...
They just say there's no longer any influenza deaths there.
Nobody's dying of flu suddenly.
They tell you, oh, we don't know why.
Worldwide, nobody's dying of flu.
Must be wearing a mask.
No.
They just take the numbers.
They don't count deaths as flu now.
By the way, you read, they admit that's what they're doing.
But there's the numbers.
There's the graphs.
And they add it to the COVID-19.
dan friesen
No one will tell you why there's not flu deaths.
That is...
A big, big swing.
jordan holmes
A flu season is just a colloquialism, Dan.
It's just the way we kind of describe how we feel at some times.
You know, like, there's spring.
I got nothing on this one.
dan friesen
He genuinely doesn't know what a flu season is.
unidentified
Yeah, that's troubling.
dan friesen
That's really scary to me, the idea that he could either not be aware of that or be aware of it and be such a...
Like a craven liar.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that people would possibly be subject to those lies.
And not recognize that this is a ludicrous presentation of something that they should just flatly reject.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that's nuts.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's nuts.
dan friesen
Alex talks more about these graphs.
Man, this is a bad presentation.
alex jones
Here's California.
Just like the last graph you saw out of Arizona.
Influenza deaths.
Suddenly.
Completely end.
As the year starts.
And then what happens?
COVID deaths.
And look at that.
It almost matches.
Because they simply moved the numbers over.
dan friesen
It matches visually because you've cheated the scope and the scale of the graphs.
But also, flu season.
jordan holmes
You say flu season, and I say government cover-up.
dan friesen
I don't even know what you're talking about.
jordan holmes
It's a government cover-up.
dan friesen
Cool.
Alex misrepresents this even more, to the point where I feel like this should be legally actionable.
If someone, I don't know, their loved one listens to Alex Jones and they die of COVID, I feel like he should be able to be sued for this.
This is direct misinformation.
Like, I don't know how this is okay.
alex jones
See, the globalists love disease.
They love depopulation.
And the numbers all show that.
Influenza deaths, 12-week number, goes down to almost zero.
COVID skyrockets.
It's the same in every state, ladies and gentlemen, because they follow the United Nations edict.
Then the CDC and NIH follow that because the doctors don't want to get in trouble.
It's false policy.
dan friesen
I just don't know any other way to put it than, like, someone should be able to sue him for that.
Like, that is...
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're using misrepresented data and a, oh, I've never heard of flu season argument in order to try and present the perspective that this is a hoax and a fake outbreak.
And you're doing so has a tendency towards leading people to make behavioral decisions that they might not be inclined to otherwise that are bad for their health.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I see no way that that's not exactly analogous to fire in a movie theater.
dan friesen
That is a serious risk to people's health.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, like I'm saying, that's yelling fire in a movie theater.
That is perfectly analogous to that.
dan friesen
I don't know why it's not or how it couldn't be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, totally.
dan friesen
And then, like, other instances of times where he lies about COVID and stuff, it's like, well, yes, this is lying, and, you know, X, Y, or Z. This is so explicitly and indefensibly transparent.
This is cheating graphs in very, very elementary ways.
And a misrepresentation of one of the most elementary facts about distribution of flu deaths over the course of a year that I went back over.
Actually, there's a flu view.
on the CDC's website where you can look at past flu seasons and you can see all the trajectories over every year.
Granted, it changes year by year because it's different strains of the flu, but they always have a very similar arc to them and very regularly are ending around this week 12 time period that Alex is talking about.
Sometimes it's a little bit later, but that's because there's some variability to it.
But this is just unacceptable.
And, like, I don't...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not...
Yeah, but no.
No, just no.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex stormed off his show earlier, as we heard.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Hey, you play whatever clip you want.
jordan holmes
You play whatever clip you want.
dan friesen
Great.
So now he apologizes, as is his sort of routine.
Now, this is the punchline to that setup.
alex jones
I've been particularly wound up today.
I've been a jerk behind the scenes, so I apologize to the crew on air.
But I just got distracted today, because I'm just so ready for this show, so ready to cover all this.
And then my son's up here, and Ted Anderson, and I'm trying to work with again, a great guy.
He's here, and there's all this stuff unfolding.
And I'm not complaining, it's just, I get why the average person just tunes out politics.
dan friesen
The reason that most people tune out politics is because they can't handle having their son in the office and a shady gold dealer who they're trying to get back into the business.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now you get it, Dan.
dan friesen
I guess so.
jordan holmes
I have always been like, I was going to check Twitter earlier this morning, and then a fucking shady gold dealer just walked out of my closet and just wouldn't leave me alone.
dan friesen
Back when I was a younger man, I did not care much for politics, and that's because so much of my time was spent hanging out with unscrupulous precious metal dealers.
jordan holmes
Like, we're all in Back to the Future.
Like, oh, my best friend is a disgraced nuclear physicist, you know.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
We're just hanging out all the time.
dan friesen
So, much like myself, Alex wants to run away to a cabin in nature.
Sure.
We aren't doing it for different reasons.
Myself, I can't afford it, and I think it would be untenable.
There'd be a lot of complications.
I don't even want to.
jordan holmes
You're not a good hunter.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
I think I'd have to become a vegetarian.
Also, just logistics are tough.
I don't have a car.
There's a lot of problems.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of issues.
dan friesen
For Alex, he realizes that maybe you just gotta kill people instead.
alex jones
There's nothing I want more than to run to some little cabin in the woods and just say, screw it, let somebody else deal with it, and go to town once a week.
And just go for hikes with my dogs and my kids.
But you know what?
They're coming to your little cabin in the woods.
They're not going to leave anybody alone.
I think everybody's got that now, including me.
And there's this sick feeling in me now that I'm going to have to do something.
Because I've tried to do a lot with information.
But the minute they come at you and say, you can't have a driver's license or fly on a plane or have a job or go into a store.
Unless you take this inoculation that they admit is deadly and that is run by a guy that says he wants to depopulate and he's not a doctor, he's not my doctor.
So I ask the listeners right now, I'm going to take your calls.
Bill Gates and the depopulation agenda he represents, what do we do about them?
Because finally today, this morning, my psyche clicked into gear about maybe I can't fix this with information.
And then the problem was, I'm not somebody trying to be big and mean and powerful.
jordan holmes
Yes, you are.
alex jones
But when that gear finally clicked into place, that gear is just saying, You want to kill me?
That ain't going to happen.
You're the one that's going to pay.
dan friesen
So Alex is apparently abandoning the info war for violence now, I guess.
jordan holmes
Just pitch?
Follow through with the woods one.
Just move to the woods.
dan friesen
Can we vote?
jordan holmes
Can we have a poll?
dan friesen
No, no, no.
There's a poll.
The tyranny of the majority would force Alex to the woods.
jordan holmes
Or kill people.
No, no, no.
I'm going to vote for a move to the woods every time.
dan friesen
This is not a democracy.
It's a republic.
unidentified
Oh, damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so this is, again, just the troubling ramping up of the exact same trend that we've seen for a bit now, where it's like violence is inevitable.
You can run to the woods, but they'll find you in the woods, and you're dead anyway, that kind of stuff.
It's very much keeping in pace with the trends that we've seen from him, and it's very scary, and people should be aware of that.
Because Alex also, like, another sort of motif of our show is Alex refusing to learn from things that he's done in the past.
He doesn't know that he's accidentally promoting Jim Fetzer again.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he doesn't realize that in the past, when he's done shit like this, and talked about, like, these evil, evil demon people, and maybe you need to show up places.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Sometimes people do.
alex jones
We need to be like...
Jesus and those that copied him, Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King, we need to not be violent offensively at this point.
But we better be active politically, spiritually, economically, and culturally really aggressively right now because we're under physical assault.
And we're being oppressed.
And we better start doing civil disobedience.
That don't mean burning down the police station or beating up innocent people.
That means going into places without masks.
That means going into parks they've closed.
That means going to these globalist houses.
That means filing lawsuits.
That means get aggressive.
dan friesen
You better hope that someone who listens to your show doesn't show up at the Clinton's house or Soros' house and...
Cause some problems.
You better hope that your listeners don't take you seriously.
jordan holmes
Does he even have object permanence?
Where are we on the ability to learn here?
Because even if there are four ways to do it...
He is utilizing none of them.
dan friesen
Not a single one.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
But the issue seems to me that once he gets into a certain headspace, he can't really even control himself.
Which he kind of talks about even just right after this.
alex jones
I apologize to the crew behind the scenes.
I've been a little bit radioactive today.
And it's because I am radioactive, ladies and gentlemen.
Every time I start sweating, everybody knows, well, that'll be a good rant.
Jones is on today because it's literally my body.
Starts counting down and starts making me think about this and think how I do this and how I do that.
And it's just like wargaming and all.
And it's scary, folks, but I know you're all doing the same thing.
And we just really need to try to fix this as peacefully as possible.
I have a plug today.
I've been too upset.
If you believe what we're doing, infowarstore.com.
Great products.
Blow you away.
unidentified
Oof.
dan friesen
This just makes me think of right around the time when he got that DUI, he was talking about how he's addicted to rage and he needs to take some time off.
It feels good, but it's going to destroy him.
I can't hear him talk about, I start sweating and people are like, it's a countdown, it's going to be a good rant.
I can't hear that and not think, oh, you're talking about the exact same thing.
You've just now talked yourself into thinking it's not a problem because you're experiencing it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And that is great for ratings.
I don't know, but it seems very unhealthy, and the things that seem to happen when he's in those states are the things that are the most destructive, the most potentially dangerous to innocent people.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And I think that he should be aware of that by now.
He's an adult.
jordan holmes
I just...
Nobody around him at all has, like...
unidentified
Man, he needs a lot, a lot, a lot of therapy.
dan friesen
Right, but it's impossible for that to happen.
jordan holmes
He can't.
dan friesen
There's enablers around him who are clearly making a lot of money off him.
There are weak people like, I mean, whoever works for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, name it.
dan friesen
Two-time losers.
Yeah.
And just other grift scam fucks.
And then, to compound the issue, you have people calling into his show saying things like this.
unidentified
And I believe, and I've said this before to you, but this is the start of the coming to power of the Antichrist.
Sure.
Next year will get really bad.
Where I'm getting my information from, and I hope you don't mind me saying this, but God is talking to people in the world.
alex jones
Oh, it's happening, you're right.
unidentified
And Alex, you're actually word for word on some of the stuff he's saying, so you are being inspired.
dan friesen
So you have people calling in who are like, the Antichrist is taking over, and God has spoken to me, and it sounds exactly like you, and therefore you're a prophet.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
You have people who are enabling you to that level.
Why would you ever consider that what you're doing is damaging, you're lying to people about graphs?
Why would you ever deign to take responsibility for your actions?
Basically a messenger of God.
You're infallible.
This is sick cult shit.
jordan holmes
I would be interested to know what it's like to exist in that bubble.
And to have your mind so warped that what he's doing and what you think he's saying and whatever makes sense to you.
dan friesen
To be the caller?
jordan holmes
Anybody.
In his world.
To exist in that bubble where it's just so reinforced that you're...
There's just no outside information at all.
There's just none.
That's the only explanation for it.
And it's so terrifying to me.
But also, is it more fun?
Like, are they having more fun?
Would I be happier if I were living in the bubble, Dan?
Give me a yes or no answer.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's not the answer that I was hoping for.
dan friesen
I know.
So Alex gets to talking about his new special, and I think it sucks.
alex jones
We have great products.
We have the Reopen America Back to School special.
That is the last special we were running, but without free shipping.
Because we do the accounting and the math, and we just can't fund ourselves with 50% off and the free shipping.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Did you like our last special?
Well, it's the same thing, but worse.
We're just making you pay for shipping the same deals as last time.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Very uninspired, even from a marketing perspective.
jordan holmes
Anyway, back to school specials in 2020 are very, very tasteless.
I'm going to go with tasteless.
dan friesen
Especially because he doesn't sell notebooks or pencils or any school supplies.
He sells fucking propaganda documentaries and pills that no kids should be taking.
jordan holmes
Take to school.
unidentified
Ridiculous.
dan friesen
So, whenever Alex was talking about these, like, you know, hey, you gotta kill, you know, you gotta...
He always couches it within the language of, like, it's gotta be defensive.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
But they are physically attacking us, so it's already defensive no matter what.
dan friesen
And...
alex jones
I mean, look, the mark of the beast, world government chair, what are we gonna do about it?
dan friesen
The Mark of the Beast world government is here.
What are we going to do about it?
Alex, you've answered your own question.
You just refuse to take responsibility for it.
jordan holmes
Exactly, because he's a giant coward like Rand Paul.
dan friesen
Year three of Alex not debating me, which is not something I actually want to happen.
So, alright, here we go.
Alex has a guest to end this episode.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
And it's somebody that I kind of hoped we'd never end up really discussing.
It's someone who I'd considered as someone to do an episode about, but I kind of don't feel good about it.
I felt like there's a pretty decent chance that he's had a stroke or something.
I don't know what's going on.
The cognitive abilities don't appear to be all there.
And seeing him in this context on Alex's show makes me think that my assessment might have been wrong.
A lot of the videos that I've seen...
This is Jesse Lee Peterson.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've talked about it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
A lot of the videos that I've watched of him are him debating people who are of the left.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
People like Destiny or David Pakman.
They've gone on Jesse Lee Peterson's show and...
I think, to an extent, people even started treating it like a fun, goofy thing for YouTube people of the left to do as making a joke of it.
jordan holmes
Just clown on this dude for a while.
dan friesen
And I found that to be a little bit boring as a formula.
But if you watch those interviews, Jesse appears to be almost unable to process the information that's going on.
And I think that with the context of seeing him on Alex's show, I think that's an act.
I think that that might actually be a strategy that he employs to frustrate or annoy the person that he's talking to.
Like refusing to take answers to questions that aren't yes or no.
When there are questions like, when did you stop beating your wife?
Obviously, that's not the actual question, but it's like that.
If you say yes or no, it's not a valid...
jordan holmes
It's just a pin question.
dan friesen
And the way that he interacted with the way people responded to questions, it made me worried about his cognitive ability.
But seeing this, it's clearly like if he's just talking to somebody else...
Then he's just a fucking asshole who's got really...
He's just a black dude who believes in white supremacy.
jordan holmes
Sure!
Why not?
dan friesen
So I might end up doing an episode about him in the future.
jordan holmes
Let's do a black white supremacist episode.
dan friesen
I don't feel that my initial assessment of him was fully right.
Although I still...
I don't think I was wrong to have the opinion that I had of like, I don't feel comfortable about him as somebody that I should take seriously.
Sure.
unidentified
In the same way that, you know, people who have clearly been struggling with PTSD on project camera aren't people I'm going to make fun of.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
I clearly thought by, by the way he appeared to be processing information and the way he would interact.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I thought that like, there's a neurological, Yeah.
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
dan friesen
So, in his bio, in Jesse's bio that Alex gives him, this is where you would check out, probably.
alex jones
And people don't know who Jesse Lee Peterson is.
They've been hiding under a rock, but he's the most courageous, outspoken critic of the civil rights establishment in America today.
dan friesen
Not a fan of civil rights.
jordan holmes
The most courageous and outspoken critic of civil rights leadership.
That's his brand.
Look, look, civil rights leadership.
A lot of them.
A lot of them need a lot of criticism.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I'm with you.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's criticizing the foundation of it.
jordan holmes
See, there you go.
dan friesen
Not just the corruption of an individual.
unidentified
Just say he's criticizing civil rights.
dan friesen
Alex apologizes for tech issues, which...
jordan holmes
Alex apologizes for tech issues.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then Jesse announces that it's a very special month.
alex jones
We've had more technical difficulties today than we had in the last six months, so I apologize for getting him on late, but he's at least here with us for the next two and a half segments.
Thank you so much, sir, for being with us.
You've got a lot to cover today, and just God bless you.
What do you want to cover first?
jesse lee peterson
Well, number one, I want to say thank you for having me on, and happy Men History Month.
August is Men History Month.
This is our third year of celebrating it, because men...
Men and boys are the most hated species on this side of heaven.
So we're bringing the intention to that.
dan friesen
So another thing about Jesse Lee Peterson is he's a bit of a troll.
jordan holmes
A bit of a men's rights guy.
dan friesen
But also a troll.
He's trying to fuck with people in order to get a reaction out of it.
There's a good bit of that.
He always calls Trump the great white hope.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
It's just...
Sure, sure.
There's a clear intention of trying to piss people off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm pretty sure.
So August is Men's History Month.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And it turns out July was also a very special month.
jesse lee peterson
And July was White History Month.
And the reason we started that three years ago, because white people are the most hated species on this side of heaven.
And we see that now with the attack upon the President Donald Trump.
I call him the Great White Hope.
We see that with the attack upon white Americans today.
They're being knocked out, robbed, raped, murdered.
Their businesses are being destroyed.
And no one cares.
No one says anything about it.
So we got to remind people of white history because if it wasn't for white people, there would be no America.
It was white folks who founded and created the greatest country on this side of heaven.
Not blacks, not Mexicans, not Japanese, not Chinese, not Filipino, but white people.
And we cannot afford, Alex, to let them erase.
White American history and create a false history.
That's what they're trying to do.
dan friesen
Alex has found his new best friend.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
This is going to be quite...
Because I don't think Jesse Lee Peterson's been on the actual show.
I think he's only been on The War Room with Owen.
There's one point where Alex says, you know, you've been great with Owen.
Which leads me to believe that he was on the sort of junior varsity tier.
And Alex is bringing him up to the big leagues.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
He's getting his cup of coffee before the end of the show.
dan friesen
And Alex, I think, is just like, fuck yes.
jordan holmes
Where have you been my whole life?
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
I have always wanted to say I have black friends, and that wasn't true.
So now you're a huge candidate for it.
dan friesen
Men are under attack.
jordan holmes
White history.
Oh, man.
White history.
That is a fucking...
That's a home run.
Swing for the park right there, buddy.
dan friesen
So the issue comes down to, for Jesse Lee Peterson, that...
You know, there's going to be some sort of social upheaval that takes place in America.
And then, oh, won't you think of the poor white people?
jordan holmes
Oh.
jesse lee peterson
They have redone the police forces over in Africa, South Africa, and now white people don't have a chance.
They're doing the exact same thing here.
White people are afraid to speak up for fear of being called racist.
We have these radical black women and some men who are weak beta males.
We have them and the power of police chiefs and the BBC state-run media.
dan friesen
More tech problems cut off by the break.
jordan holmes
Not good.
Not good.
dan friesen
So in South Africa, the white man can't get a fair shake.
jordan holmes
They just can't get a fair shake anymore in South Africa, Dan.
You know, famously, South Africa, the place where white men just...
They were looking for an equal share of everything.
You know, when they landed and they wanted to assimilate with...
unidentified
You know, it's like how white people want...
Mexicans and other people to assimilate to American culture.
jordan holmes
You saw white people go down and lead by example in South Africa.
They assimilated into the culture.
That's what they do, right?
dan friesen
You get a fair shake?
History is fun when you choose arbitrary start dates.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're great.
dan friesen
That really allows you to make whatever cockamamie arguments you want to make.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Anyway, Black Lives Matter.
jordan holmes
India loves the United Kingdom in 1965 and later.
dan friesen
So, Jesse Lee Peterson does not like Black Lives Matter.
jordan holmes
Yes, I imagine so.
dan friesen
He's not a fan.
And I would say that he has an interesting complaint that might reveal something that he's not making too explicit.
On this episode, or maybe he just knows better than to be as outwardly homophobic as he actually is.
But that seems to be one of his problems with Black Lives Matter.
jesse lee peterson
You gotta realize that Black Lives Matter is a far-left, liberal, radical organization that was founded by fat, black, angry, radical lesbians.
And I just never imagined that one day in a Christian nation, That we would see police officers, grown men and women, bowing down to a bunch of fat black lesbians.
That's mind-blowing to see it.
These people hate God.
They hate the family.
jordan holmes
Man, he's angling for the slot right after Rush Limbaugh.
We listened to the Rush Limbaugh show, now we're on the Black Limbaugh show.
dan friesen
So they get to talking about the parties, the political parties, the Democrats and the Republicans.
jordan holmes
I bet this is super insightful.
dan friesen
Well, Alex tries to pretend that the party swap never happened.
unidentified
Well, when would it have happened?
jordan holmes
White people in South Africa cannot get a fair shake, Dan.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
alex jones
How did the switch happen where suddenly the party of Lincoln is the KKK and the party of the KKK is the party of Lincoln?
jesse lee peterson
Well, number one, as I said, Martin Luther King and all those guys sold the blacks to the Democratic Party.
And then the media and the race hustlers, the black race hustlers, start accusing the white part, the Republican Party, of being white.
unidentified
Oops.
dan friesen
Almost said the white party.
jordan holmes
The white party.
Can we just do that now?
Can we just do it?
Let's just do that.
The Republican Party is the white party.
dan friesen
Jesse.
jordan holmes
The end.
dan friesen
Jesse, a little slip there.
jordan holmes
Jesse, you nailed it.
You nailed it.
Don't backtrack.
dan friesen
They're trying to say the white party.
jordan holmes
The white party.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
All right, Jess.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here from their interview.
One thing that you should know about Jesse Lee Peterson is that he grew up, I believe, he was in the South, and he grew up under the Jim Crow laws.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And one of his claims to fame is talking very positively about Jim Crow laws.
jordan holmes
Love me some Jim Crow!
Come on!
dan friesen
He talks a lot about how black people were better off, and seems to advocate for a return of Jim Crow laws.
And I don't know if Alex was really ready for that.
But he tries his best to spin the conversation.
And I'm not sure this is effective.
jesse lee peterson
I went through a lot of stuff.
alex jones
I'm saying they say that's oppression.
We're not defending that system.
But at least that system was a human system that was making you strong.
And just think about the one now where people have three degrees but no job.
And they're just pissed off.
jesse lee peterson
That's right.
That word wasn't even heard of, man.
Believe me.
Because our parents and our grandparents were the example.
And so even though the Jim Crow laws were there, we were not affected by those laws.
Because whenever we wanted to visit, whomever we wanted to visit, white people, black people, we didn't.
Because all white people didn't go for the Jim Crow law.
It was just some, not all.
And all black people were falling for it and hated white people.
Maybe a few.
I don't know about it.
alex jones
The point is, you didn't take your identity as a victim.
You decided to be successful.
That made you overcome.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that's a noble effort on Alex's part to try and be like, I'm sitting here talking to somebody who's speaking about Jim Crow laws not being a problem because, hey, some people didn't follow him.
jordan holmes
Listen, I agree with you.
Personally, I know plenty of white people who would not follow those Jim Crow laws if they were reintroduced.
Me, I would love them and enforce them, especially upon you, Jesse Lee Peterson.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, his first attempt was also kind of weak of the spin, which was...
jordan holmes
At least it's human.
It was a human system.
dan friesen
It was a human system, and the oppression made you stronger.
jordan holmes
You got a job.
jesse lee peterson
No.
jordan holmes
What are you doing with these degrees, Dan?
Trust in Jim Crow!
dan friesen
I mean...
I did get a real sense that Alex might not have been aware that Jesse went that far.
You know, like...
Because if you don't know who Jesse Lee Peterson is and he comes in and he's like, hey, Jim Crow was a better time!
You'd be like, um...
Is this a joke?
alex jones
Well...
dan friesen
Are you fucking breaking me?
jordan holmes
Hold on one second.
Take off.
Look, we're not doing blackface anymore, Mr. Pranks all the time, tricking white people.
Oh, sing that song about how we're going to kill the Chinese with the nuclear bombs.
Come on, take the...
We're not doing blackface anymore!
dan friesen
I don't...
I found this to be depressing.
jordan holmes
That's a good way of putting it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, there was a part of me that never wanted to really...
Like, I don't know.
I didn't want to see Jesse Lee Peterson on Alex's show.
I just don't like it.
I think it's a bad combination.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I feel like Jesse showing up here on Alex's show is a bad sign of things to come.
I don't like what they could possibly get into together.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I think it's a bad merging of...
jordan holmes
You're talking about lethal weapon?
Is this what we're doing?
He's about the same age as Danny Glover, isn't he?
dan friesen
Alex is too old for this shit.
jordan holmes
Alex is a loose cannon, that's for sure.
dan friesen
Very similar to Mel Gibson in many ways.
unidentified
This is racist lethal weapon.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you know.
Lethal Weapon was, by itself, half racist Lethal Weapon.
dan friesen
This was a tough stretch.
The third is kind of a really bleh show, and Alex seems uninspired and kind of lethargic, and I don't know what the fuck's going on.
The fourth is an unmitigated disaster.
jordan holmes
An unmitigated disaster.
From a tech point.
I'm doing that.
unidentified
I gotcha.
dan friesen
I'm gonna stop talking until you stop.
I don't caught into that nonsense.
It's a real disaster, and really...
I don't even know.
I just feel like if you had anybody decent working there, they wouldn't have allowed that to happen.
Someone would have caught that problem.
jordan holmes
Ted Anderson is in the station!
dan friesen
This isn't a podcast.
This is a fucking radio show that has a million dollar studio and a bunch of cameras and a fucking supplement line.
This is the big leagues, man.
This isn't acceptable.
Get your QA in order.
jordan holmes
We gotta keep costs low.
The overhead is...
You heard him.
They can't even afford to give you free shipping anymore, Dan.
They definitely can't afford a competent soundboard.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It was a bummer.
And then the fact that once the content cleared up, it's just like, hey, maybe we've got to kill people.
Now here's Jesse Lee Peterson.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Boo.
Boo, I say to this.
jordan holmes
You know, I just think that it's such a positive message that Alex brings to the family.
Sure.
dan friesen
It's a family show.
jordan holmes
Get around with your family.
dan friesen
Listen to Alex ramble about scientists getting boners from jawless people walking around like zombies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
But, you know, I think the most important thing to really point out and focus on here is that the trend towards self-sacrifice through, like, maybe violence is continuing.
You know, there was that article in Right Wing Watch that pointed out some of this, and I'm glad that there's some more attention being paid to it, but it's a trend, and I don't expect it to cool down anytime soon.
I think, if anything, this is only going to get more severe on Alex's part, and I hope that...
I hope that his audience is as small and ineffective as I think they probably are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I read that, and...
The thing I was thinking was like, you probably shouldn't have written about this at all because it makes it look like it's a story.
The moment you write that and post that, you're pretty much committing to like...
And next week we follow up.
Alex still calling for everybody to murder people.
Follow up for the next week.
Alex Jones still calling for everybody to murder people.
You can't just say that he said it because he's saying it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it'll continue.
And whatever he's going to say is going to be worse.
I'm almost certain.
jordan holmes
It's going to escalate, yeah.
dan friesen
But to counteract that, I'd like to make an announcement.
And that is, on our next episode, I will be announcing the new pet.
jordan holmes
Ooh!
dan friesen
Yes.
Very exciting.
jordan holmes
The day has finally come.
dan friesen
Yep.
I have sort of left that thread dangling a tiny bit, and part of that is just because of preparations that needed to be made, and a slight bit of uncertainty, but it is official, and we'll announce this on the next episode.
jordan holmes
I've been privy to your thought process, but I still await the outcome.
dan friesen
Very exciting.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back, Jordan, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website, it's notdread.com!
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
And if you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out those doing God's work.
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm the juiciest ice cube.
Juiciest ice cube.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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