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Aug. 5, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#465: August 3-4, 2020

Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dissect Alex Jones’ August 3–4, 2020 broadcasts, where he falsely ties COVID-19 vaccines to Yale/federal brainwashing trials, warns of forced vaccination doomsday, and justifies violence against figures like Bill Gates. He pivots to ancient aliens, racial cover-up claims, and Nancy Pelosi’s stimulus conspiracy, while promoting Infowarstore.com. Guest Jesse Lee Peterson pushes "White History Month" and defends Jim Crow, with Jones awkwardly endorsing his views. Technical glitches—like double audio feeds and a misrepresented Beirut explosion—fuel speculation of pranks or desperation. Their critique reveals Jones’ pattern of dangerous distortions, from medical data manipulation to extremist rhetoric, escalating civil disobedience calls that risk real-world harm while normalizing far-right grievances under a veneer of "anti-globalism." [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 17:16
d
dan friesen
46:34
j
jordan holmes
18:19
Appearances
j
jesse lee peterson
02:57
Callers
rick in arizona
callers 01:17
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang, me are the bad guys.
Knowledge my fight.
Dan and Jordan.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Pan Andy in Kansas.
Andy.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the earth for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fifth pin color.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, drink knowledge of beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Joe.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Dan Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Well, I was at the grocery store the other day.
I went down to a grocery store and I was looking for some jalapenos.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Because I like to put some peppers on things.
And what did my little eyes buy?
What?
But a pepper that was very, very uncommon to find at grocery stores.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I found some Carolina Reapers.
jordan holmes
Carolina Reapers.
Straight up Carolina Reapers.
dan friesen
It's very rare for me to see those outside of a sauce or dried.
unidentified
A specialty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I've not seen those at grocery stores very much.
So, of course, I got them.
Of course.
Of course.
Put some on a pizza list.
jordan holmes
How did it go?
dan friesen
Pretty serious.
It was a little more serious than I was expecting.
jordan holmes
I like the ambition of it.
I just really like the ambition.
It was putting a really hot thing.
It was a frozen pizza, was it not?
dan friesen
Yeah, it was.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And I dealt with it quite casually in the lead up.
And then I should not have been so capricious.
It was fine.
It was very, very hot.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I could handle that part okay.
I did do some like some of that.
Like I was breathing and I was having an experience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But the real problem was afterwards.
And not like, you know, I'm not being gross in bathroom.
jordan holmes
You're not being, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like, this isn't scatological.
dan friesen
There were muscles in my torso that I felt like weirdly tight in.
And I'm like, oh, there's something going on inside me that I'm unaware of.
jordan holmes
So it's like one of those stim pack ab machines is just pulsing your stomach muscles.
dan friesen
It felt like the aftermath of something like that.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
It was wild.
I'm going to eat another one at some point.
jordan holmes
What kind of fool would you be not to?
dan friesen
Anyway, this is my way of explaining to you why I drank the iced tea that you left here.
You left a can of emergency.
You left a can of Arnold Palmer here last night.
Or the other day, and I had to chug it last night after eating a Carolina Reaper.
jordan holmes
I was wondering what emergency could necessitate a Arnold Palmer emergency, but now I get it.
dan friesen
I understand.
Yeah, it was the first thing I saw when I opened the fridge.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
What about you?
Oh, but I mean, it's nice to have a ridiculously hot pepper.
That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, that's great.
My bright spot, Dan, is a piece of information that I discovered in my preparation for what I imagine will be, I don't know, the events of the century, which is my debate with Rand Paul, which he is still tragically refusing to accept.
dan friesen
You might be pushing a little hard on this.
jordan holmes
No, I'm going hot.
dan friesen
I might have seen a hundred tweets about it.
jordan holmes
All day.
I am just going to bother his social media manager for fun.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
But it turns out Rand Paul has kidnapped somebody, Dan.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, did you know that?
dan friesen
Allegedly.
jordan holmes
No.
Totally confirmed.
dan friesen
Allegedly.
jordan holmes
100% confirmed by the person who was kidnapped.
dan friesen
This is something the kidnapping victim and Jordan are alleging.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
No, it is not.
I published in GQ.
dan friesen
I know what he said.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
GQ, a kidnapping victim and Jordan are alleging this.
jordan holmes
As well as other outlets.
But yeah, he kidnapped somebody when he was in college.
He was a member of an anti-Semitically named secret society.
He and a friend kidnapped a woman, broke into her dorm room, blindfolded her, tied her up, took her to a second location, forced her, or actually just told her that she had to do bong hits.
She had to, and then she didn't.
And then they just took her to a river and told her to pray to Aqua Buddha.
And that's the end of the story.
dan friesen
Okay.
Right?
That's an interesting story.
I don't know how this is going to entice him to debate you.
jordan holmes
Ah, no, no, no.
I'm going to use it in my debates.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
That will be there.
He is a kid.
dan friesen
He's going to need to get that coward to agree.
I think we're on day 14.
It might be.
No response.
jordan holmes
It might be too.
I don't think that there will be any.
It's an inevitability, honestly.
dan friesen
Yeah, certainly.
Much like the passing of the season.
unidentified
Sure.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The eventuality of Rand Paul accepting your challenge.
jordan holmes
We may be running for president against each other.
We may have to.
unidentified
I could see that.
dan friesen
I could see that happening.
So, Jordan, today, we had an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about August 3rd and 4th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
August 4th, 2020 is a fucking train wreck.
It is a disaster on levels that I, like, not from alex's out of control kind of perspective or anything like that.
It is just, oof, man.
Pack it in, Alex.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
You should quit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You're not doing your job anymore.
jordan holmes
All right.
I like it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm excited to get down to business on that.
But before we do, let's take a little moment to say thank you.
Some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, we got Bonnie YR.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Bonnie.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Dave A. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Dave.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Michael H. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Michael.
dan friesen
Mikey.
Thank you.
Next, Ugly Barnacle.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Ugly Barnacle.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Ugly Barnacle.
Next, Joel.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Thanks, Joel.
dan friesen
Joel.
Next, Lee B. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Lee B. Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Minda.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Minda.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
Appreciate that very much.
So, first of all, Michael and Amy combined.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Andrew Kay, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, Mike.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We got to go full-telt buggy on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Michael and Amy.
And thank you so much, Andrew Kay.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much, all of you.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you're out there listening, you're thinking, hey, Dan, Jordan, Dan, Jordan, you guys?
I like what you do.
I'd like to support the show.
You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show.
We would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
We would.
dan friesen
Yeah, or you could take that generosity, break it up from the stems of it.
jordan holmes
Okay, I was worried that you were rolling a joint right now.
dan friesen
That's what I was doing.
jordan holmes
That's what I thought you were doing.
dan friesen
Roll that generosity up into a swift.
unidentified
Get a little, yeah, sprinkle a little something on top of it.
dan friesen
Sure, and then pass it around to a local charity in your area that's helping people.
Puff puff charity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, before we jump in here, here is an out-of-context drop from today's show.
unidentified
Hey, I need a t-shirt that says Zip Honky ain't voting for no donkey.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Flash forward to six months from now, Alex is selling a this honky ain't voting for a donkey.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
That might be too bad even for him.
dan friesen
Actually, six months is probably too late.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I give it a week.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
A week and a half.
dan friesen
I feel like Alex is going to be like, I don't have any better ideas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's probably fair.
unidentified
Who knows?
dan friesen
This is fucking do it.
So we start on the third here on Monday.
And Alex, I'm going to just give you this in advance.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
In no way takes responsibility for stopping the Antifa attacks that were alleged to have supposed to happen over the weekend.
Okay.
And also does not even bring up that they didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
That seems really important to at least mention.
dan friesen
He spent days building up a narrative about how Antifa was going to take over police stations in multiple states.
Yeah.
Based on exaggerations that he took from a Boogaloo Facebook group.
Allegedly.
I don't even know if there was anything on that Facebook group worth getting up at arms about.
I have no idea.
So yeah, anyway, that all fizzled out and we got nothing.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So I assume he's going to remove a computer chip from someone today.
dan friesen
No, no.
He's going to start a podcast.
alex jones
You know, I've thought about doing a podcast once a week where I don't speak from my own analysis of the world, but where I only highlight articles and make that the podcast, reading different sections of articles on air and different video clips.
And I intend to do that.
I intend to launch a podcast too with callers and listeners of the show.
dan friesen
We know, we know you intend to do that.
You've intended to do that for about the amount of time that we've been doing a show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's what was it called?
Audiobook of the News?
dan friesen
Was that it?
Something or other.
So his other idea, the other big idea, is I'm going to do a show where I just read headlines.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And that's different.
dan friesen
Because it wouldn't have the parts where he screams.
jordan holmes
Oh, it wouldn't.
dan friesen
It would.
Yeah.
Undoubtedly, it would be the exact same thing.
jordan holmes
So he would just release it as fun.
dan friesen
I'm thinking about doing a podcast.
Just stop there.
jordan holmes
He only knows how to do one thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in honor of this idea for this podcast that he has, Alex decides, I'm just going to read headlines for the rest of this segment.
jordan holmes
This is cheating.
alex jones
We've got a lot of things that are important that need to be done.
And a lot of it's because they're fascists of the show I've always wanted to do that I've never had the will to do.
Let's see today.
Reading?
If I could spend the next nine minutes left in this segment just reading headlines.
dan friesen
He ends up making it.
I mean, he does frequently interject with his own analysis and stuff.
But like, yeah, okay, what have you proven?
jordan holmes
He can do it.
dan friesen
You can just point to completely disjointed, unconnected headlines and no analysis of it, no context.
jordan holmes
What do you need it for?
dan friesen
Man, it's bad.
It's really bad.
It is lethargic.
You can tell the audio is a little bit weird.
There's a strange hum in the background.
Something is not quite right.
And it's all disconnected.
Like I said, these headlines, a lot of them have nothing to do with each other.
But because of the way Alex's mind works, he wants everything to connect and make sense.
You can feel him having trouble just reading a bunch of headlines of stories he hasn't read.
Sure.
Being like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I like the idea that now Doom Scarling You can also get an audio format of just looking at headlines and feeling miserable.
dan friesen
Yeah, But also just the impulse to be like, this is all about the same thing.
So on our last episode, we found that Rob Dew, incompetent deposition expert, incompetent news director, real weirdo, drunk at CPEC.
jordan holmes
Right.
Do you have anything nice to say about him?
dan friesen
Drunk at CPEC.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, that's not bad.
That's the only way you could get human.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's hired a statistician to fudge some numbers.
jordan holmes
So we're still going on statistician.
dan friesen
Oh, yes.
But the idea of the COVID deaths going up when flu deaths go down.
alex jones
And then let's move on over here.
Scam Demic CDC stats show flu deaths dropped as COVID deaths increased at the exact number in every state following NIH guidelines.
And we've had a statistician actually get their own numbers and put it all together.
dan friesen
So that's an example of him not just reading a headline.
And if he was just reading a headline, it would have been an InfoWars headline.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So I don't know what you've proved.
And it's interesting to me because Alex has to either know that he's lying or he has to have been tricked by the scale manipulation that the graphs are presented in.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because the graphs do appear to show exactly identical rises in but they're nowhere near the same number of people.
It's all out of whack.
jordan holmes
And sometimes somehow I feel like it's both.
You know, like he knows he's lying, but he's been tricked by the graphs.
So he doesn't know what exactly he's lying about.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But he knows he's lying.
dan friesen
I think that's an interesting possibility.
And here's what I would say: like, because we can't be certain, it's either a lie or he's so hopeless and lost.
He's helpless.
That's what I mean.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
To the manipulations of things like an image that he just doesn't even, yeah, he doesn't know where he's at or he's lying.
Yeah, yeah.
And either way, fucking ignore it.
So he has another story.
This is kind of one of the big headlines about the news of the day.
And I believe that he got this just from a Gateway Pundit headline, and it's really dumb.
alex jones
Federal government and Yale are holding clinical trials on how best to persuade.
That's brainwash, nudge, push, prod, force Americans to take COVID-19 vaccines.
In fact, guys, go to an online thesaurus, please, and type in other words for persuade, convince, force, force.
dan friesen
So there's this Gateway Pundit article about a study that was conducted by Yale about what sorts of messaging is most effective in terms of getting people to take vaccines.
They had 12 different messages that they would give study participants, and then they'd evaluate their willingness to get vaccinated.
The control group was given the message that was unrelated to vaccines, just a quote, passage on the costs and benefits of bird feeding.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Then there was the baseline group, which would just be giving a straight message about the facts regarding vaccines.
Then the rest of the groups were experimental in nature, ranging from messages about personal freedom to messages about how embarrassing it would be to not get vaccinated.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is a pretty standard sort of study measuring the effectiveness of a particular type of messaging.
Every advertising campaign does this, as do politicians who are running for office.
jordan holmes
And I imagine Steve Pieczenik.
dan friesen
Probably.
Any kind of public relations matter is benefited from studying how the public generally responds to a particular sort of message.
So this is not weird at all.
Also, as Alex is reporting that this is the federal government, there's no evidence that the federal government is involved in this study at all.
The list of sponsors and collaborators is literally just Yale University.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I think what happened here is that Jim Hoft over at Gateway Pundit found this study on clinicaltrials.gov.
And because of the .gov website, he just decided to report that this was a federal government study.
And now Alex is just blindly repeating that assertion.
This tells me that neither of them actually went to the study page, which very clearly says at the top: quote, the safety and scientific validity of this study is the responsibility of the study sponsor and investigators.
Listing a study does not mean that it has been evaluated by the U.S. federal government.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's just how they hide that shit from you, though.
dan friesen
And then there's a link to a disclaimer that makes us even more explicit.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Quote: Not all studies listed on clinicaltrials.gov are funded by the National Institutes of Health or other agencies of the U.S. federal government.
Not all listed studies are regulated and/or reviewed by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration or other governmental agencies.
Information on clinicaltrials.gov is provided by study sponsors and investigators, and they are responsible for ensuring that these studies follow all applicable laws and regulations.
NLM staff do not verify the scientific validity and relevance of the submitted information beyond a limited quality control review for apparent errors, deficiencies, and inconsistencies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's just legalese boilerplate nonsense.
The federal government funds them.
They just don't want to be held liable.
dan friesen
I mean, you're probably make that assumption based on the fact that it says disclaimer.
As always, on InfoWars, this is a story that is a zero, which is being completely misrepresented and lied about in order to make it sound scary to Alex's audience that is addicted to being scared.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, here's where it gets to be a real problem.
Like, that's bad, but this is just Alex reporting on some news story he hasn't read.
Yeah, whatever.
jordan holmes
It's second-grade human centipede bullshit.
We're already going through the bullshit of Gateway Pundit.
Now we're getting fed it through Alex's asshole.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Now, here's where Alex does his own jazz that really is worrying.
alex jones
Control message.
We need to control this disease.
Baseline message.
We need to lower that baseline.
Personal freedom message.
You'll be free about doing this.
dan friesen
That right there is a clear instance of Alex showing his cards as having no idea what he's talking about.
He's reading that Gateway Pundit article about this study about messaging.
And because he's just reading words and making up a story about them, he thinks that control message is a message about control as opposed to it being the control group of the study.
The same is true about the baseline group.
He sees these words and he's just reporting to his audience that they mean something completely different than what they do.
Like, this is indicative of a failure to recognize what studies even are.
jordan holmes
He has no clue.
dan friesen
This is an in-depth level of ignorance.
Yeah.
No, that's scary.
jordan holmes
No, well, if you understood how controls and experiments worked, you'd be like, oh, that's a fairly, yeah, that's a pretty good system.
So you have to not understand how it works in order to lie better about it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's a pretty foolproof kind of, you know, there are controls, there's an experiment, you figure out what's going on.
dan friesen
I don't even want to get into that.
I want to address that this is embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, it's terrifying.
dan friesen
Even if you're somebody who loves Alex and thinks like, oh, he's great at this, you should know, like, if you've gone through high school, that control groups are what make, you know, that's a thing that's in experiments that is in order to test for variables.
jordan holmes
Like, you should know that very, I'm just busy fighting satanic influences when he was in high school.
dan friesen
It's staggering.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's bad.
It's bad, but I. I'm not talking.
dan friesen
I mean, I am talking about Alex.
Yeah.
But I'm talking about, like, I can't understand listening to this and that not being a huge red flag.
Just being like, he doesn't know what a control group is.
jordan holmes
I can understand that.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Because they don't understand what a control group is.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I would argue that most of these people don't actually understand what they're talking about.
Like, period.
On a fundamental level, they don't like who's the who is the senator that just tested positive for COVID?
And he's like, it's probably my, yeah, he did.
Debate me on that.
dan friesen
Gohmert.
jordan holmes
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's like, maybe the mask itself gave me COVID.
And you're like, whatever.
You just don't understand anything.
You've got nothing.
dan friesen
Perhaps.
So in this next clip, Alex gets to rambling about how it's the end.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
My friend.
My only friend.
The end.
alex jones
This is the end, my friends, my only friends.
Because of their elaborate plans, the end.
No safety.
You're going to pay for not staying up to the babies.
You're going to pay for wearing your mask.
You're going to pay for submitting.
You're going to pay hard.
And it's going to get so bad, you're going to finally figure out you better stop lebang.
But then you'll be so domesticated, everybody else will be whacked out of their brain that you won't have any faith but to go ahead and take the pill and kill yourself.
Now that's where you're going.
unidentified
And remember, Bill Gates left.
dan friesen
Cut off by the break there.
jordan holmes
I think that's a really positive message.
dan friesen
Yeah, certainly.
It's inspiring.
It's the kind of thing you want to hear from patriot leadership.
jordan holmes
Here's what I was thinking.
I was thinking at Valley Forge, George Washington got all of his men together and he was like, look, I know none of us have any feet.
I get it.
It's cold.
And we're all going to die.
We're all going to die.
You are going to die.
You're going to die.
You're going to pay for your crimes.
Everyone here is going to die.
Give up.
It's going to be too late.
We can't even fight the British anymore.
alex jones
Quit.
jordan holmes
Give up.
dan friesen
Yeah, we try and fight the British.
We'll be begging for death eventually.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
Or something.
Yeah, it's very, I don't know.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Not inspiring.
dan friesen
I'm not.
But it is interesting that you just see this sort of like this consistent pattern that just keeps going.
Like this, this where like there's a fatalism to it.
There's a we're dead already.
Why value your life in the face of the globalists?
And it's not good.
It's kind of mid-stage, just self-destructive cult of personality stuff.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
At no point in time did he call it a divine wind or ask you to wait till the end of the episode.
Definitely not.
Look, if you're in your fighter plane, you should definitely not use it.
dan friesen
I'd like you to hold off on the map.
jordan holmes
Maybe he isn't calling for comica text is wrong.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, we've already heard.
jordan holmes
That's true.
We have already heard comica.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
dan friesen
The 70-year-old retired military people might have to sacrifice themselves.
jordan holmes
Walk on in there.
dan friesen
And then back, like, even going back to as far as July, July 8th, actually.
I mean, like, I even have this clip at the ready.
Alex has been talking about this for a while.
alex jones
This has all been set up to make you obsolete, to dehumanize you, to suck the life out of you, to dumb you down, to make you pathetic, to take your family away from you, and they admit it.
And I don't want to be part of it.
We have to get control of our governments.
We have to reverse the technocracy plan, the post-human plan.
And if governments won't do it, we have to start talking about what we're going to do and who's going to step up and take one for the team.
I don't want to go there, but we can't just sit here and let these people do it.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
The leadership of the Globalist Operation must be dull.
jordan holmes
Black ruling.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I mean, you're talking about like, is he going to start calling for kamikaze stuff?
He's been dancing around that subject for at least a month.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
That's fair.
And less abstractly for even longer.
But it's been pretty overt lately.
It's been going on a much more overt path, certainly in the last month.
So, I mean, it doesn't bode well.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
It does.
It's not the sort of thing that I'm thrilled about.
jordan holmes
I was just thinking about how Jesus said, like, how you treat the least of these is how you treat me.
And I kind of feel like Alex wants to strap a bomb to the least of these.
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
I don't think it's weird that you're getting that impression.
So in a little bit sort of more palatable territory, I guess.
Alex, I think, is into ancient aliens.
alex jones
You know how old the Sumerian symbol of two snakes together down the middle.
And the Sumerians say that creatures came from another star and showed them how we work and explained this to them.
And so the British scientists all knew this, but they knew to really get the knowledge, they had to take huge amounts of drugs.
They had to interbreed with the most elite families to get their genetics tuned for psychics that were able to interface with these things.
And then they got alien technology through intergalactic space-time communications.
jordan holmes
Keep going.
alex jones
To build a gate or something here on Earth to bring them in.
And the Bible says in the end times, the gates of hell will open.
Hell will open.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
And we will be invaded, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
This is just Project Camelot stuff.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
That's straight up spider leadership.
dan friesen
California wildfires are a cover for alien portals.
jordan holmes
Vietnam War, the whole thing.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Wild.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Stargates.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
Stargates, buddy.
Kurt Russell coming back.
Coming back.
He was going to be in Guardians of Galaxy Volume 1.
dan friesen
Now, look, I only trust the most reliable sources, and that's why I want to read to you from Eric von Daniken.
jordan holmes
Yep.
The Bible even says it.
Damn, the Bible says.
dan friesen
My next guest coming up, Zachariah Sitchin.
I think he's dead, but still going to have him on.
jordan holmes
Okay, so if Sumerians predate the Bible and he's going off them actually meeting aliens, doesn't that supersede the Bible?
You know what I'm saying?
Shouldn't we be listening to the alien folks more than the Bible folks?
dan friesen
Probably, probably irrelevant.
Oh, that's fair.
I mean, just flashbangs.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay, smoke bombs.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Alex can get around that very fair enough.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So we get to this next clip.
And, you know, I think that there's just a little bit of a racist dance that's going on here.
Alex seems to have a lot of white victimhood narratives in his head.
And it leads to this very weird statement.
alex jones
If you're a black guy and the super rare event, you're in some town and the KKK does something to you.
It's racist whites coming after you.
If you're a white person in the incredibly common and the incredibly common event that a black person attacks you because you're white, those statistics are then covered up.
Because again, that's part of the power play with the globalist deep state because they've got six and a half plus billion people that aren't white.
And so if you just simply convince them to hate white people, you could have them pull down the first world and then no one has a chance of getting out of any of this.
dan friesen
So that's an interesting perspective.
jordan holmes
That is racist as shit.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
Damn.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That was a non-stop.
One, you can't falsify the statement that I'm making because they cover up any proof that you would have of whatever it is that I'm bullshitting.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
And the KKK, who even ever heard of them?
What are you talking about?
Where did they even come from?
And then black people are just killing white people all the time.
dan friesen
You'd find some instance of like a race racist attack against a non-white person by a white person.
And I was like, well, it wasn't the clan.
unidentified
Covered up.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
It wasn't the clan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very clan.
It wasn't the clan.
And I believe he is 100% saying that all first world countries are white.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, we already knew that he believes that.
So in this next clip, Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi, is sort of talking about how people should get a stimulus.
And Alex is getting mad about that.
And then he goes real non-sequitur on us.
alex jones
Oh, but she, we need to stand up for the American people.
dan friesen
So that's about Pelosi.
You're talking about her saying we need to stand up for the American people by way of making sure people can eat.
alex jones
When their paid agitators say, no borders, no wall, no USA at all.
dan friesen
So now Alex is implying that Nancy Pelosi is funding all of the protests of people who largely are not fans of all hate her.
alex jones
Blow up the police department in Austin says the official budget.
Because, folks, if they can blow up the police station after cutting down all the statues and then take all that money and give it to their leftist organizations, they're seizing power.
And Ilhan Omar said, and then we'll have a new police department under our control.
She said it last week.
jordan holmes
Under community.
alex jones
We'll build something wonderful.
Oh, like you did in Somalia, lady, and we saved you.
jordan holmes
Whoa.
alex jones
Squat on us and piss in our face.
Go to hell, you racist witch.
I didn't plug last hour.
I'm going to plug right now.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
Your financial support is obviously the totals I guys.
We've proven we're in the center of the fight.
dan friesen
Your financial support.
The spirit of the times.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
That's weird.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know why Ilhan Omar needed to come into the conversation.
jordan holmes
She's got to be in there.
dan friesen
And I don't know if she set up the Somalian state.
jordan holmes
Of course she did.
dan friesen
I don't know if as a child refugee.
jordan holmes
She tore it down around their ears, Dan.
I like to imagine that the city council has like controlled demolition of a derelict police station, and then somebody just scratched it out with a red pen and just wrote, blow it up.
dan friesen
Blow it up.
Blow it up.
That didn't happen.
No, I doubt it.
Also, I checked into it, and as of the preparation of this episode, which was earlier today, the Austin budget for the police department still has not been approved.
Although it is all nonsensical.
jordan holmes
It's already gone.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about, man, kind of makes sense.
You might have to kill some people.
unidentified
Does it?
dan friesen
Like, Fauci.
I mean, come on.
jordan holmes
I mean, come on.
I don't know where you're going.
dan friesen
I mean, come on.
jordan holmes
No, don't just say, come on.
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
There's no, come on.
alex jones
It's as serious an issue for me.
Not because of safety issues.
Bill Gates is coming at us with deadly vaccines that he says will hurt us and kill us.
He says we don't have a choice.
And he says he wants to depopulate us.
So anyone coming to try to force me to inoculate you or take your job or I'll let you fly, they're assaulting you.
They're imprisoning you for not taking their poison.
They're trying to rape you.
And so we are crossing into an area where the default does become violence.
And then the person we would talk about would be the front man of this, Fauci or Bill Gates.
That's not my place.
And there could be attempts on their lives that turn them into victims.
In fact, they're probably going to stage that.
That'd be the move I'd pull.
So I don't wish any harm upon them physically, but their names should be destroyed by their own statements, their own corruption, their own words.
dan friesen
Alex tries to be pretty, I don't know, dancey about this because he's talking about how Trump and the military need to kill these people.
Sure, sure, sure.
He's like, that's not my place.
jordan holmes
That's justice.
dan friesen
Although it is interesting that he's like, you know, there'll probably be some fake attempts on their life to get sympathy.
That's what I would do.
It's like, no, that's what you would do.
That's what you would do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you think everything is a weird fucking conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Spy movie.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
There's going to be fake attempts on his life to garner sympathy for Dr. Fauci.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Despite the fact that you are preemptively stoking so much fear as a defense against any kind of sympathy for Dr. Fauci.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That is exactly what he would do.
dan friesen
It seems right.
So Alex is dancing around this idea of justified violence and some people got to get killed, but Trump should probably do it.
And, you know, there's this weird.
I don't know.
He doesn't feel on today.
And so he ends up going to calls, taking some calls.
And this one caller, oh boy, he is mad about snitches and the name of the game.
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Let's go ahead without further ado and go to Mike in New York.
Are you in New York State or New York City?
unidentified
Alex, upstate New York.
Thanks for taking my call.
alex jones
Oh, that's a beautiful area up there.
Well, you're blushed like people are in other rural areas.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Well, Alex, you'd think so, okay?
Let me tell you something about here.
There's a reason why people leave their doors unlocked and their cars unlocked because they know everyone up here believes in the Second Amendment.
No one's going to go breaking in people's houses up here because they know the end result.
What this governor has done to this state, okay, I live in a small village of 5,000 people.
The same neighbors that I have turned to and said hi to every day are the same ones who have turned me in time and time again since I put up a Trump 2020 poster.
dan friesen
Snitches.
Upstate New York, 5,000-person village snitches.
jordan holmes
Did they get this guy out of central casting?
Good heavens.
dan friesen
I should also tell you.
jordan holmes
Talk more like you are from where you're from.
dan friesen
I looked into this a little bit, and there's a number of places in upstate New York that have pretty high burglary rates.
I don't know if what this guy is saying really holds water.
unidentified
I mean.
dan friesen
So it turns out.
jordan holmes
You don't even need to bring your gun to the burglary.
You can just steal the gun that's already there.
The doors are open.
dan friesen
Alex, you can take a gun from anybody.
jordan holmes
You can take his gun from anybody.
dan friesen
Turns out this guy has had some building code violations that he accuses his neighbors.
unidentified
That's just because he put up a Trump flag, Dan.
dan friesen
It must be.
And so he's pretty mad about this.
But he has a retaliation that I think is, I don't know, I think it reads way more hostile than he thinks it does.
unidentified
My neighbors, three of them here, have huge Biden signs.
So I put my huge speaker on my fence, beautiful fence, and I loop your, I will eat your ass over and over and over.
Beautiful.
Because this is what this has done.
dan friesen
You know, like, the thing is, Alex's response shouldn't have been beautiful to that.
But that rant was about Alex eating his neighbors.
So this guy putting his speakers up and playing that rant where Alex threatens to eat his neighbors might be construed as a threat.
Ah, that's pretty threatening.
jordan holmes
Man, town of 5,000 people.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Town of 5,000 people.
And you're the guy with the place next to this guy.
dan friesen
If my neighbor was playing, I'm going to eat my neighbor stuff over the fence.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would be like, I didn't call the fucking people.
jordan holmes
You're a snitch.
I didn't.
And if you call the cops about me on this, you're a double snitch, Dan.
And I'll find another speaker to play a completely different massive threat to your life.
dan friesen
Can you imagine wasting your time with this bullshit on a radio show?
Like, you're Alex Jones, and you got this angry caller who's like, all these damn snitches saying my garage is an inch too tall or whatever the fuck he's talking about.
Oh, God.
So trivial.
So stupid.
jordan holmes
It's, I mean, right now, what else is going on?
You got to fill the time.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, you really, there's nothing else to really talk about.
dan friesen
No, totally.
And that's that's why Alex does the calls, and then they're disappointing.
And so he ends up saying stuff like this.
alex jones
You know, I can tell you some other stories.
I know somebody that worked at MD Anderson.
And he had to stop working there because some of the surgeons would become basically sexually aroused when they were injecting people with experimental stuff that they'd signed where reforms would probably kill them.
And they would get off on killing people.
And they'd get off on like people missing their lower mandibles who had had, you know, who had signed on for experiments to stay alive.
And they would go in there.
There's all these people like a zombie movie with their tongues, you know, basically hanging out, drooling.
And the doctors would just get off on it.
And then they'll basically jerk off in the bathroom after they went and saw it.
I mean, can you imagine masturbating to people missing their lower mandibles and their tongues hanging out?
And as soon as you realize that type of psychoscientist is in control, you start turning things around.
So I don't want to tell you stories like this to shock you.
dan friesen
If I'm not much mistaken, Jordan, this is a family show.
This is for the kids.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine jerking off to people without a lower mandible?
No, I can't.
alex jones
I can't.
dan friesen
You can't.
jordan holmes
Clearly, you can.
dan friesen
Yeah, that spends some time imagining about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a while.
dan friesen
So he gets another call, and this is a lady from California who may or may not have been involved in the Protect the Children March rally that took place recently there.
From what I understand.
Really, heavily QAnoni.
jordan holmes
Wow.
It was about protecting the children.
dan friesen
I get the fact that a lot of this might be similar to that Irish fascist who is holding an anti-pedophilia rally.
You can't be a little bit of a mask.
jordan holmes
Protect the children.
A little bit of a disguise for protect the children.
dan friesen
But anyway, he has this person on, and he accidentally gets tricked into promoting somebody that he shouldn't promote.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Well, I'm glad you're here.
So start over.
I do know about your group.
Tell us about who you are again.
They're going to try to censor you, but more people must join you.
Others must, again, launch their own operations because the AI isn't watching you till you do that.
And then other people have to be the leader, be the leader.
And as they try to suppress one leader, another leader jumps up.
And then soon they're fighting an army of leaders and they can't stop us.
unidentified
I mean, we're making it as decentralized as possible.
So our site is RealDealMedia.com.
dan friesen
So I went and I checked out this Real Deal Media website.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And the first thing that I noticed is they have a series of videos.
Their main videos are called the Real Deal Reports.
Oh, no.
And this is supposedly a news show.
But one of the hosts is Jim Fetzer.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
The guy who wrote the book, No One Died at Sandy Brook.
jordan holmes
Damn it.
dan friesen
That alone is enough for me just to be like, oh, fuck this shit.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Anybody who would work with a lunatic Holocaust denier like Jim Fetzer at this point is not worth anyone's time.
Yeah.
I looked at their about page, though, and this line jumped out at me.
Quote, joining the Real Deal report is the heavily censored Victorious Libertas, along with contributors Kristen Megan and the health ranger Mike Adams.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
Also, we're not interested in Liberty anymore.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Remember, Steve Jennic is there.
He has deemed it nonsensical.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Liberty is stupid.
Take it down.
dan friesen
I think that, from everything I can tell, there seems to be a bit of a schism between Mike Adams and Alex.
Alex isn't having him on.
jordan holmes
Haven't had him on.
dan friesen
Because of a disagreement that they have about masks and whether or not the coronavirus is real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
dan friesen
And it may be that Mike Adams is now taking his directions to the real deal media, which is A lateral move.
jordan holmes
Alex is in real big trouble.
dan friesen
I don't think that it is.
And honestly, this is doomed.
Like, Jim Fetzer is a real menace.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think he's toxic?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, really?
This will get kicked off YouTube pretty fast.
jordan holmes
I think it's all blown over.
I think it's all blown over, dude.
dan friesen
Recently, he lost that lawsuit.
jordan holmes
See, it's all blown over.
It's Double Jeopardy.
You can't hate him anymore.
He lost the lawsuit.
I'm pretty sure that's how Double Jeopardy works.
dan friesen
I think it's really, really funny that Alex pretends to know what this operation is.
And so he's like, yeah, I'm aware of it.
You know, we need more leaders.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And so he's giving her a platform to promote her shit.
And because he's just bluffing that he knows who the person is, he's promoting somebody that he's supposed to be against because he's getting sued for Sandy Hook stuff.
So in actuality, if you just take it at face value, Alex is promoting Jim Fetzer on his show right now in 2020.
jordan holmes
God, there's just no way for him to learn.
He just can't learn.
Just care, just a basic sense of knowledge, or just any kind of awareness.
Just none of it.
dan friesen
There's something so humbling about having to say, I don't know, or whatever, like, oh, I haven't heard of your thing.
Yeah.
What is this?
I don't have universal awareness of literally everything.
And Alex can't open up that vulnerable place.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
And so he ends up accidentally promoting Jim Fetzer in the year of our Lord 2020.
jordan holmes
Pretty sure I'm omniscient.
And if there's one thing I know, it's that supporting your little website will never blow back on me at all.
dan friesen
So you got one last clip here from the third.
And it's another caller.
And this dude is a rambly psychonaut, I guess.
Rambly psychonaut that ends up veering deeply towards blood libel.
rick in arizona
Hey, what's up?
Thanks for taking my call.
alex jones
Thank you, sir.
rick in arizona
I want to talk about a few things, and it's got to do with like the sex trafficking of the kids and the drinking of the baby's blood.
I believe that consciousness oscillates at a frequency and should be verified as a number similar to IQ.
With that being said, I've done ayahuasca ceremonies and I've done all kinds of research myself on like mushrooms and just everything.
Like mortality and what's going on in the world right now.
The elite are just like low conscience, like demons, and they're possessed and they're drinking off the baby's blood.
unidentified
Sure.
rick in arizona
And it's the DMT in it along with the rituals and everything else.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
rick in arizona
But when they get a hit of the DMT, it's like the God force, okay?
That's a no-no.
If I go and do it, I can go do it through ayahuasca.
jordan holmes
You listen to Rogan.
rick in arizona
But the dudes in the jungle were like, dude, that's an abomination.
They told Terrence McKinnon when he showed up with the powder to smoke, like, oh my God, you can't do this.
You got to drink it through the vine and you purge the demons out.
jordan holmes
That's right.
rick in arizona
And the DMT is like a nutrient from the vine because that's just straight healthy.
jordan holmes
Straight health.
rick in arizona
It's like somewhere along the way, whatever evil snake serpent it was taught them, like, drank the baby's blood, drank the baby's blood, and that's why they're addicted to it.
alex jones
Well, there's no doubt, and Hunter S. Thompson wrote about this, and it was later confirmed that he really was a lawyer that represented the Satanists, and that he really did give them the concentrated essence of a child's blood.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
The only appropriate response to a caller like that is get help or hang up.
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy.
Click.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's not.
You don't want to be like, not only that, but or like, hey, you make some great points.
jordan holmes
With that said.
dan friesen
I believe that the human spirit oscillates at a certain vibration and it's measurable much like IQ.
unidentified
Now that means that out of the way.
dan friesen
Now that I have used this bully pulpit for my quantifiable human vibrations.
jordan holmes
Now that we can take that as red.
Now we can move on to my next.
dan friesen
I have mostly said this on a dated radio program, much like sending myself a newspaper in the mail to timestamp.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So here are your options, if you're Alex.
You can go, nah, nah, nah, nah, and stop.
unidentified
Or you can take a big bottle of sandwich.
jordan holmes
Let him keep talking as long as he wants.
I'm eating my sandwich.
dan friesen
All right.
This guy is going to throw out some the elites are addicted to baby blood narratives.
That certainly is not historically.
unidentified
That's probably it.
dan friesen
So the third sucked.
It was a waste of a show.
It's mostly like in terms of things that happen.
There's calls.
There's that weird gateway pundit headline.
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Great work all around there.
dan friesen
Not a great effort.
However, heads and shoulders above the fourth.
August 4th opens like this.
Dead air.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
How's the show going?
dan friesen
Not great.
jordan holmes
I think we're off to a good start.
dan friesen
He's been worse.
jordan holmes
That's true.
He finally...
dan friesen
Still waiting.
unidentified
800.
0046.
That's 800-406-0046.
Consolidated Credit Counseling Services Inc. 5701 West Sunrise Boulevard, Fort Lauderdale, Florida, 33313.
Licensed by the New York Department of Financial Services and by the Vermont Department of Financial Regulation.
Maryland DM 1492.
alex jones
Oregon DM 80092.
unidentified
Licensed by the Virginia State Corporation.
Commission license number DC83.
Service may adversely affect an individual's credit.
alex jones
The non-payment of debt may lead to additional financing.
jordan holmes
This is not buzz marketing on our part.
unidentified
No.
President Trump says he wants to help communities in rural areas.
dan friesen
He spoke at the White House yesterday.
This is the Genesis Communications news bumper.
This is what they used to play on Sundays for the first five minutes of the broadcast or whatever.
Before Alex just started doing his thing for the first minutes.
There's some sort of a connection problem that he's having with the Genesis feeds, which goes to all of the radio stations that he's syndicated on.
He doesn't get on the radio except through Genesis Communications at their stations and that syndication.
So he's just not there.
jordan holmes
Maybe he finally did have too much news to cover.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
He couldn't open his show with it.
He had too much news to even say he had too much news to cover.
dan friesen
So I was worried about this, and we got the sort of the straight delivery news person for a little bit.
And then Alex's intro music starts.
alex jones
And I went to my dad and people said, I would like to put on a charcoal chip face that doesn't have all the silicon and all these colors.
dan friesen
So this is still a commercial that is playing right before the intro music.
alex jones
Very strong-tooth-faced.
You've never used anything like it.
Get yours at InfoWarsTorre.com right now.
Attack he's under, but that doesn't mean we're in a cult.
And, you know, support him on things.
We don't agree with concentration.
That said, InfoWars is literally the program for the anti-world speaking through.
jordan holmes
This is the best episode of InfoWars I've ever heard.
unidentified
So now we've got audio bleeding into each other.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
It's wild.
jordan holmes
This is great.
dan friesen
No, it's not because once Alex starts talking, you have two feeds.
jordan holmes
I know.
alex jones
It's Tuesday, August 4th.
The year is 2020.
We are 9-0.
9-disciplined is not Earth rotations.
Now, from this incredible election, strap yourselves in.
There's been a giant explosion in Beirut and a huge mushroom cloud that might have been an atomic or hydrogen bomb.
Going off, it could be seen from still just cut away.
Going as high as 40,000 feet in the air, the hornable still shot that this is tough.
jordan holmes
This is great.
This is really great.
I was always wondering.
dan friesen
It's really hard.
It's disorienting.
I felt high.
jordan holmes
No, I'm bummed out by not being yelled at by two Alexes.
I didn't even know we could get two Alexes before now.
We're at what?
Episode 450 something or whatever?
Now we got two Alexes?
Bright new generation for our show.
dan friesen
So obviously, what's going on here is there's like two different inputs that are going to the feed that goes on to Genesis.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And one of them is a rebroadcast feed of some bullshit or whatever.
And the other one is Alex talking and trying to start his show, though late.
Yeah.
And then somebody fixes something, but they don't really fix anything because now we just have two feeds of Alex talking.
alex jones
Come on, TV viewers can see it on screen.
And the good news is.
Bad news, but not that bad.
Not that bad.
There was a fire.
It was a fire fireworks factory blue.
So that is what Alex is.
Very ominous, ominous-looking explosion that obviously killed a lot of people.
So it's bad news, but the good news is it was not his, it was not a terrorist attack.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
At this point, I wanted to come.
jordan holmes
I think I'm with that dude.
I'm with the caller.
unidentified
All consciousness is oscillating right now.
dan friesen
Mine almost oscillated out the fucking window listening to this shit.
Like Alex with just a weird echo is hard.
It is hard to listen to.
jordan holmes
I did not understand or hear a word he said.
dan friesen
No.
He's talking about Beirut and our thoughts and prayers, as trite as that sort of expression is, our best wishes are with everyone there.
Bananas.
But there's not a whole lot of analysis of that on this episode, shockingly.
jordan holmes
I imagine not.
dan friesen
That's my sound effect for fast forwarding.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
We now get to 20 minutes into the episode.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
Alex Jones.
What I'm going to do for the rest of this segment is read through, read through these headlines.
jordan holmes
Headlines.
Today.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I consider myself the luckiest host.
jordan holmes
In the face of there.
dan friesen
Yeah, so 20 minutes in.
We're still struggling with this issue.
And Alex has decided that he's going to read headlines.
Great.
Like he did on the days prior.
So he's like, that felt really good just to read some words.
jordan holmes
Maybe he's broadcasting from the Grand Canyon.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
He's in studio.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So now it's fast forward.
33 minutes in.
alex jones
This is a very complex issue.
If you get into all the minutes.
All the minutiae.
dan friesen
I just, I can't listen to this.
And obviously, we can't play it on the show.
Like large chunks of him.
No, double.
jordan holmes
It can't happen.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And so that's great.
I went and I found the video, and the video that's just like from on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is fine.
That isn't fucked up.
jordan holmes
There's no hologram of Alex sitting in the other chair.
dan friesen
I wish there was.
That would be amazing.
Great.
Yeah.
And one of the problems with that is trying to take the audio from that would have taken too long for us to put out Tuesday's episode on Wednesday.
Right.
And so there just wasn't a way around that.
I was like, okay, well, eventually maybe he'll put it up on banned.video where it's easier just to download from.
But it would just, it wasn't coming.
And so, like, we just had this unlistenable pile of shit.
And I would have thought that, like, all right, maybe he doesn't even know.
Like, but at the same time, I thought that was impossible because there were two different audio problems that happened.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so there was one problem that was two different feeds.
Someone had to have fixed that and got it to the point where there were two.
And then Alex just kind of freaks out.
alex jones
So I'm going to start over next.
I'm going to need that.
I'm going to have on that wall.
I'm going to ask for and asking for other fake other COVID, you know, COVID system.
But we'll do it next.
We'll do it next sec.
I may just have to leave today.
This is not the drama stuff.
I'm going off here.
jordan holmes
Oh, you fixed it.
alex jones
I mean, seriously.
Wow.
Unbelievable.
Let's go ahead and go to this special report.
We'll see what happens.
I'm going to have to push back other graphs I have for next time because I've got to do this whole graph on COVID-19 here that I needed.
jordan holmes
Land that plane, buddy.
alex jones
Let's play clip 14.
Thanks.
Clip 14.
And then, uh, after that, whatever you like.
That Mueller.
dan friesen
Um.
If you didn't know that this audio was coming out like this, that would have been completely out of left field.
That would have been like, I don't know why he's mad.
I don't know what is going on.
But if you know that the Genesis feeds, which go out to all of the radio stations, were playing double audio, like, yeah, it makes sense.
Alex would be fucking pissed off right there.
Although it is very interesting that he's like, I'm just going to start over.
And then it's fixed right then.
jordan holmes
Okay, it must, I swear to you, that was a prank.
That was a bet.
Somebody made a bet.
They were like, okay, how long do you think it'll take before A, he notices and B, he freaks out.
And the moment he noticed it was 37 minutes.
dan friesen
Fixed it.
jordan holmes
Fixed it.
Immediately.
It was one button press.
dan friesen
It was 37 minutes of just bullshit.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
It was tough.
jordan holmes
50 bucks.
dan friesen
All right.
So Alex comes back now that the audio is fixed.
And he has this idea that's very similar to our old friend Larry Nichols and his idea that whenever the shit goes down, if you're a senator, no, if you're a senator, you're a duke.
jordan holmes
That's right.
That's true.
dan friesen
And if you're the president, you're the king and your wife is the queen.
alex jones
True.
jordan holmes
And then Don Jr. would be a jack in the Constitution and a deck of cards.
dan friesen
Yes.
And Alex has a sort of similar idea about like whoever has the most inflated currency at the time when the shit goes down.
And I don't really care about this idea because he doesn't really spell it out very well.
You'll see exactly why I kept this clip for once it's over.
alex jones
Whoever ends up with the EU overinflating its currency, the communist Chinese overinflating their currency, they're all doing it.
Whoever ends up with the dominant global currency, who can flood the world with the most of their currency, who can be on top when it all goes down, will be in charge, like after World War II in Bretton Woods, for another 70, 80 years.
And you can say it's a corrupt system.
You can say it's fiat.
The very Federal Reserve that set it up is getting rid of our hegemonic power now to give it to the ChiComs and themselves completely.
They're done with us.
Like Darth City is done with Count Dooku.
We're being flushed down the toilet.
dan friesen
You couldn't come up with a better reference than Count Dooku.
Alex is a damn prequels guy.
jordan holmes
He's a prequels guy.
That's wild.
That's wild.
Just dooku.
Just letting Dooku die.
dan friesen
Right off the top of his head.
Darth Sidious and Dooku.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Not Emperor Palpatine, by the way.
Not Emperor Palpatine.
He does not say Palpatine.
He doesn't even say Supreme Chancellor Palpatine.
He says Darth Sidious.
dan friesen
And Dooku.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
Man.
jordan holmes
He is definitely a prequels guy.
dan friesen
He loves him.
jordan holmes
That's a real bummer.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Of course, he is.
unidentified
Of course, he is.
jordan holmes
He is the inversion of all that is good and right in the world.
That's just reality.
dan friesen
So Alex says this.
You know, he said he needed this map up.
And what he was really talking about was like graphs because he has his COVID flu stat narratives.
jordan holmes
What is a graph but a map of numbers, Dan?
dan friesen
And man, look, we can talk all we want about Alex revealing that he doesn't know what control groups or baseline groups are.
jordan holmes
No clue.
dan friesen
In this next clip, he seems to be presenting as a person who doesn't know that flu seasons exist.
alex jones
Let's go to the new numbers from May and June and July and now going into August.
Here's numbers for Arizona.
And you can see how they just say there's no longer any influenza deaths there.
Nobody's dying of flu suddenly.
They tell you, oh, we don't know why.
Worldwide, nobody's dying of flu.
Must be wearing the mask.
No, they just take the numbers.
They don't count deaths as flu now.
By the way, you read, they admit that's what they're doing.
But there's the numbers.
There's the graphs.
And they add it to the COVID-19.
dan friesen
No one will tell you why there's not flu deaths.
Nobody.
That is a big, big swing.
jordan holmes
The flu season is just a colloquialism, Dan.
unidentified
It's just the way we kind of describe how we feel at some times.
jordan holmes
You know, like there's spring.
I got nothing on this one.
He genuinely doesn't know what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's troubling.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's really scary to me.
The idea that he could either not be aware of that or be aware of it and be such a craven liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that people would possibly be subject to those lies and not recognize that this is a ludicrous presentation of something that they should just flatly reject.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's nuts.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex talks more about these graphs.
Man, this is a bad presentation.
alex jones
Here's California, just like the last graph you saw out of Arizona.
Influenza deaths suddenly, completely end as the year starts.
And then what happens?
COVID deaths.
And look at that.
It almost matches because they simply moved the numbers over.
dan friesen
It matches visually because you've cheated the scope and the scale of the graphs.
unidentified
But also, flu season.
jordan holmes
You say flu season.
And I say government cover-up.
dan friesen
I don't even know what you're talking about.
jordan holmes
It's a government cover-up.
dan friesen
Cool.
Alex misrepresents this even more to the point where I feel like this should be legally actionable.
Like, if someone, I don't know, their loved one listens to Alex Jones and they die of COVID.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I feel like he should be able to be sued for this.
Like, this is direct misinformation that, like, I don't know how this is okay.
alex jones
See, the globalists love disease.
They love depopulation.
And the numbers all show that influenza deaths, 12-week number goes down to almost zero.
COVID skyrockets.
It's the same in every state, ladies and gentlemen, because they follow the United Nations edict.
Then the CDC and NIH follow that because the doctors don't want to get in trouble.
It's false policy.
It's fraud.
dan friesen
I just don't know any other way to put it than, like, someone should be able to sue him for that.
Like, that is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're using misrepresented data and a oh, I've never heard of flu season argument in order to try and present the like the perspective that this is a hoax and a fake uh uh outbreak.
And uh you're doing so has a tendency towards leading people to make behavioral uh decisions that they might not be inclined to otherwise that are bad for their health.
jordan holmes
I just don't know I see no way that that's not exactly analogous to fire in a movie theater.
dan friesen
That is a serious risk to people's health.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that like I'm saying, that's fire.
That's yelling fire in a movie theater.
That is perfectly analogous to that.
dan friesen
I don't know why it's not or how it couldn't be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
No, no, totally.
dan friesen
And like other instances of times where he lies about COVID and stuff, it's like, well, yes, this is lying and X, Y, or Z.
This is so explicitly and indefensibly transparent.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is cheating graphs in very, very elementary ways and a misrepresentation of one of the most elementary facts about distribution of flu deaths over the course of a year that I went back over.
Actually, there's a flu view thing on the CDC's website where you can look at past flu seasons and you can see all the trajectories over every year.
Sure.
Granted, you know, it changes year by year because it's different strains of the flu.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But they always have a very similar arc to them and very regularly are ending around this week 12 time period that Alex is talking about.
Sometimes it's a little bit later, but that's because there's some variability to it.
But this is just unacceptable.
And I don't.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not.
Yeah, but no.
No, just no.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex stormed off his show earlier, as we heard.
Sure.
Hey, you play whatever clip you want.
jordan holmes
You play whatever clip you want.
dan friesen
Great.
So now he apologizes, as is his sort of routine.
Now, this is the punchline to that setup.
alex jones
I've been particularly wound up today, and I've been a jerk behind the scenes, so I apologize to the crew on here.
But I just got distracted today because I'm just so ready for this show, so ready to cover all this.
And then my son's up here, and Ked Anderson, I'm trying to work with again, a great guy.
He's here, and there's all this stuff unfolding.
I'm not complaining.
It's just, I get why the average person just tunes out politics.
dan friesen
The reason that most people tune out politics is because they can't handle having their son in the office and a shady gold dealer who they're trying to get back into the business.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now you get it, Dan.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
I have always been like, oh, I was going to check Twitter earlier this morning, and then a fucking shady gold dealer just walked out of my closet and just wouldn't leave me alone.
dan friesen
Back when I was a younger man, I did not care much for politics, and that's because so much of my time was spent hanging out with unscrupulous precious metal dealers.
jordan holmes
Like we're all in Back to the Future.
Like, oh, my best friend is a disgraced nuclear physicist.
You know, we're just hanging out all the time.
dan friesen
So, much like myself, Alex wants to run away to a cabin in nature.
Sure.
We aren't doing it for different reasons.
Myself, I can't afford it, and I think it would be untenable.
There'd be a lot of complications.
I don't even want to.
jordan holmes
You're not a good hunter.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
I don't think I'd have to become a vegetarian.
Also, you know, just logistics are tough.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't have a car.
True.
Yeah, there's a lot of problems.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of issues.
dan friesen
For Alex, he realizes that maybe you just got to kill people instead.
alex jones
There's nothing I want more than to run to some little cabin in the woods and just say, screw it, let somebody else deal with it and go to town once a week and just go for hikes with my dogs and my kids.
But you know what?
They're coming to your little cabin in the woods.
They're not going to leave anybody alone.
I think everybody's got that now, including me.
And there's this sick feeling in me now that I'm going to have to do something.
Because I've tried to do a lot with information.
But the minute they come at you and say you can't have a driver's license or fly on a plane or have a job or go into a store unless you take this inoculation that they admit is deadly and that is run by a guy that says he wants to depopulate and he's not a doctor.
He's not my doctor.
So I ask the listeners right now, I'm going to take your calls.
Bill Gates and the depopulation agenda he represents, what do we do about them?
Because finally today, this morning, my psyche clicked into gear about maybe I can't fix this with information.
And then the problem was, I'm not somebody trying to be big and mean and powerful.
Yes, you are.
But when that gear's finally clicked in the place, that gear is just saying, you want to kill me?
It ain't going to happen.
You're the one that's going to pay.
dan friesen
So Alex is apparently abandoning the info war for violence now.
jordan holmes
Just pitch.
Follow through with the woods one.
Just move to the woods.
dan friesen
Yeah, you'd be picking up.
alex jones
Can we vote?
jordan holmes
Can we have a poll?
dan friesen
No, no, no.
There's a poll.
The tyranny of the majority.
Force Alex to the woods.
jordan holmes
Or kill people.
No, I'm going to vote for move to the woods every time.
dan friesen
This is not a democracy.
It's a republic.
jordan holmes
Oh, damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this is, again, just the troubling ramping up of the exact same trend that we've seen for a bit now, where it's like violence is inevitable.
You can run to the woods, but they'll find you in the woods.
Yeah.
And you're dead anyway.
That kind of stuff.
It's very much keeping in pace with the trends that we've seen from him.
And it's very scary.
And people should be aware of that.
Because Alex also, like another sort of motif of our show is Alex refusing to learn from things that he's done in the past.
He doesn't know that he's accidentally promoting Jim Fetzer again.
And he doesn't realize that in the past, when he's done shit like this and talked about like these evil, evil demon people, and maybe you need to show up places.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Sometimes people do.
alex jones
We need to be like Jesus and those that copied him, Muhammad Gandhi and Martin Luther King.
We need to not be violent offensively at this point.
But we better be active politically, spiritually, economically, and culturally really aggressively right now because we're under physical assault and we're being oppressed.
And we better start doing civil disobedience.
That don't mean burning down the police station or beating up innocent people.
That means going into places without masks.
That means going into parks they've closed.
That means going to these globalist houses.
That means filing lawsuits.
That means get aggressive.
dan friesen
You better hope that someone who listens to your show doesn't show up at the Clinton's house or Soros' house and cause some problems.
You better hope that your listeners don't take you seriously.
jordan holmes
Does he even have object permanence?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Are we on the ability to learn here?
Because even if there are four ways to do it, he is utilizing none of them.
dan friesen
Not a single one.
Wow.
But the issue seems to me that once he gets into a certain headspace, he can't really even control himself.
Which he kind of talks about even just right after this.
alex jones
I apologize to the crew behind the scenes.
I've been a little bit radioactive today.
And it's because I am radioactive, ladies and gentlemen.
Every time I start sweating, everybody knows, oh, that'll be a good rant.
Jones is on today because it's literally my body starts counting down and starts making me think about this and think, oh, I'll do this and how I do that.
And that's just like wargaming it all.
And it's scary, folks, but I know you're all doing the same thing.
And we just really need got to fix this as peacefully as possible.
I haven't plugged today.
I've been too upset.
Can you believe what we're doing?
Infowarstore.com.
Great products.
Blow you away.
dan friesen
This just makes me think of right around the time when he got that DUI.
He was talking about how he's addicted to rage and he needs to take some time off and how he just, you know, it feels good, but you can't, like, it's going to destroy him.
Yeah.
Like, I can't hear him talk about like, you know, I start sweating and people are like, it's a countdown.
It's going to be a good rant.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I can't hear that and not think, oh, you're talking about the exact same thing.
You've just now talked yourself into thinking it's not a problem because you're experiencing it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And that is great for ratings.
I don't know, but it seems very unhealthy.
And the things that seem to happen when he's in those states are the things that are the most destructive, the most potentially dangerous to innocent people.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And I think that he should be aware of that by now.
He's an adult.
jordan holmes
Nobody around him at all has like, man, he needs a lot, a lot, a lot of therapy.
dan friesen
Right, but it's impossible for that to happen.
unidentified
He can't.
dan friesen
There's enablers around him who are clearly making a lot of money off him.
There are weak people like, I mean, whoever works for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, name it.
dan friesen
Two-time losers.
Yeah.
And just other grift scam fucks.
And then to compound the issue, you have people calling into his show saying things like this.
unidentified
And I believe, and I've said this before to you, but this is the start of the coming to power of the Antichrist.
Sure.
Next year will get really bad.
Where I'm getting my information from, and I hope you don't mind me saying this, but God is talking to people in the world.
alex jones
What's happening, right?
unidentified
And Alex, you're actually word for word on some of the stuff he's saying, so you are being inspired.
dan friesen
So you have people calling in who are like, the Antichrist is taking over and God has spoken to me and it sounds exactly like you and therefore you're a prophet.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
You have people who are enabling you to that level.
Like, why would you ever consider that what you're doing is damaging?
You're lying to people about graphs.
Like, why would you ever deign to take responsibility for your actions?
You're basically a messenger of God.
You're infallible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, this is sick cult shit.
jordan holmes
I would be interested to know what it's like to exist in that bubble.
You know, and to have that, to have your mind so warped that what he's doing and what you think he's saying and whatever makes sense to you.
dan friesen
To be the caller?
jordan holmes
Anybody in his world?
You know, like to exist in that bubble where it's just so reinforced that there's just no outside information at all.
There's just none.
That's the only explanation for it.
And it's so terrifying to me.
But also, is it more fun?
Like, are they having more fun?
Would I be happier if I were living in the bubble, Dan?
Give me a yes or no answer.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's not the answer that I was hoping for.
I know.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talking about his new special, and I think it sucks.
alex jones
We have great products.
We have the Reopen America back to school special.
That is the last special we were running, but without free shipping.
Because we do the accounting and the math, and we just can't fund ourselves with 50% off and the free shipping.
Hey, everybody.
dan friesen
Did you like our last special?
Well, it's the same thing, but worse.
We're just making you pay for shipping the same deals as last time.
Man, very uninspired, even from a marketing perspective.
alex jones
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Back to school specials in 2020 are very, very tasteless.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm going to go a little bit.
Especially because he doesn't sell notebooks or pencils or any school supplies.
He sells fucking propaganda documentaries and pills that no kids should be taking.
jordan holmes
They take to school.
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
So whenever Alex was talking about these, like, you know, hey, you got to kill.
You know, you got to be.
He was.
He always couches it within the language of like, it's got to be defensive.
And sure, sure.
And so.
jordan holmes
But they are physically attacking us, so it's already defensive no matter what.
alex jones
And I mean, look, the mark of the beast world government's here.
What are we going to do about it?
unidentified
Wait, that's right.
dan friesen
The mark of the beast world government is here.
What are we going to do about it?
Alex, you've answered your own question.
You just refuse to take responsibility for it.
jordan holmes
Exactly, because he's a giant coward like Rand Paul.
dan friesen
Year three of Alex not debating me, which is not something I actually want to happen.
So, all right, here we go.
Alex has a guest to end this episode.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
And it's somebody that I kind of hoped we'd never end up really discussing.
It's someone who I'd considered as someone to do an episode about, but I kind of don't feel good about it.
I felt like there's a pretty decent chance that he's had a stroke or something.
I don't know what's going on.
The cognitive abilities don't appear to be all there.
Yeah.
And seeing him in this context on Alex's show makes me think that my assessment might have been wrong.
A lot of the videos that I've seen.
This is Jesse Lee Peterson.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
We've talked about it.
Yeah.
A lot of the videos that I've watched of him are him debating people who are of the left.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
People like Destiny or David Pacman.
They've gone on Jesse Lee Peterson's show.
And I think to an extent, people even started treating it like a fun, goofy thing for YouTube people of the left to do as like making a joke of it.
jordan holmes
Just clown on this dude for a while.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I found that to be a little bit boring as a formula.
But if you watch those interviews, Jesse appears to be almost unable to process the information that's going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that with the context of seeing him on Alex's show, I think that's an act.
I think that that might actually be a strategy that he employs to frustrate or annoy the person that he's talking to.
Like refusing to take answers to questions that aren't yes or no.
When they're questions like, when did you stop beating your wife?
Like, obviously, that's not the actual question, but it's like that.
No matter if you say yes or no, it's not a valid.
jordan holmes
It's just a pin question.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the way that he interacted with the way people responded to questions, and it made me worried about his cognitive ability.
But seeing this, I mean, it's clearly like if he's just talking to somebody else, then he's just a fucking asshole who's got really.
He's just a black dude who believes in white supremacy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Why not?
dan friesen
So I might end up doing an episode about him in the future.
jordan holmes
Let's do a black white supremacist episode.
dan friesen
I don't feel that my initial assessment of him was fully right.
Although I still don't think I was wrong to have the opinion that I had of like, I don't feel comfortable about him as somebody that I should take seriously in the same way that people who have clearly been struggling with PTSD on Project Camelot aren't people I'm going to make fun of.
I clearly thought by the way he appeared to be processing information and the way he would interact.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I thought that there's a neurological reason that this is going on.
jordan holmes
And I don't think that's he was just playing a game.
unidentified
Yeah, I think so.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
dan friesen
So in his bio, in Jesse's bio that Alex gives him, this is where you would check out, probably.
alex jones
And people don't know who Jesse Lee Peterson is.
They've been hiding under a rock, but he's the most courageous, outspoken critic of the civil rights establishment of America Today.
dan friesen
Not a fan of civil rights.
jordan holmes
He's the most courageous and outspoken critic of civil rights leadership.
That's his brand.
Look, look, civil rights leadership.
A lot of them needed a lot of criticism.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I'm with you.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's criticizing the foundation.
jordan holmes
See, there you go.
dan friesen
Not just the corruption of an individual or something.
jordan holmes
He's criticizing civil rights.
dan friesen
Well, Alex apologizes for tech issues, which Alex apologizes for tech issues.
Yeah, and then Jesse announces that it's a very special month.
alex jones
We've had more technical difficulties today.
We've had in the last six months, so I apologize for getting him on late, but he's at least here with us for the next two and a half segments.
Thank you so much, sir, for being with us.
You've got a lot to cover today.
And just God bless you.
What do you want to cover first?
jesse lee peterson
Well, number one, I want to say thank you for having me on, and Happy Men History Month.
August is Men History Month.
This is our third year of celebrating it because men and boys are the most hated species on this side of heaven.
So we're bringing the attention to that.
dan friesen
So another thing about Jesse Lee Peterson is he's a bit of a troll.
jordan holmes
A bit of a men's rights guy.
dan friesen
But also a troll.
Like he's trying to fuck with people in order to get a reaction out of it.
There's a good bit of that.
Like he always calls Trump the great white hope.
Okay.
All right.
It's just there's a clear intention of trying to piss people off.
I'm pretty sure.
So August is Men's History Month.
Great.
And it turns out July was also a very special month.
jesse lee peterson
And July was white history month.
And the reason we started that three years ago, because white people are the most hated species on this side of heaven.
And we see that now with the attack upon the president Donald Trump.
I call him the great white hope.
We see that with the attack upon white Americans today.
They're being knocked out, robbed, raped, murdered.
Their businesses are being destroyed.
And no one cares.
No one says anything about it.
So we got to remind people of white history because if it wasn't for white people, there would be no America.
It was white folks who found it and created the greatest country on this side of heaven.
Not Mexicans, not Japanese, not Chinese, not Filipino, but white people.
And we cannot afford, Alex, to let them erase white American history and create a false history.
That's what they're trying to do.
dan friesen
Alex has found his new best friend.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
This is going to be quite.
Because I don't think Jesse Lee Peterson's been on the actual show.
I think he's only been on the war room.
There is one point where Alex says, you know, you've been great with Owen, which leads me to believe that he was on the sort of junior varsity tier.
And Alex is bringing him up to the big league.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
He's getting his cup of coffee before the end of the show.
dan friesen
And Alex, I think, is just like, fuck yes.
jordan holmes
Where have you been my whole life?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I have always wanted to say I have black friends, and that wasn't true.
So now you're a huge candidate.
dan friesen
Men are under attack.
White history.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
White history.
That is a fucking home run.
Swing for the park right there, buddy.
dan friesen
So the issue comes down to for Jesse Lee Peterson that, you know, there's going to be some sort of social upheaval that takes place in America.
And then, oh, won't you think of the poor white people?
unidentified
Oh.
jesse lee peterson
Have redone the police forces over in Africa, South Africa, and now white people don't have a chance.
They're doing the exact same thing here.
White people are afraid to speak up for fear of being called racist.
We have these radical black women and some men who are weak, beta males.
We have them in the power of men, police chiefs, and BBC state-run media.
dan friesen
More tech problems cut off by the break there.
jordan holmes
Not good.
Not good.
dan friesen
Yep.
So in South Africa, the white man can't get a fair shake anymore.
jordan holmes
Oh, they just can't get a fair shake anymore in South Africa, Dan.
You know, famously, South Africa, the place where white men just were looking for an equal share of everything, you know, when they landed and they wanted to assimilate with, you know, you know, it's like how they, it's like how white people want Mexicans and other people to assimilate to American culture.
You saw white people go down and lead by example in South Africa.
They simply assimilated into the culture.
That's what they do, right?
Did they get a fair shake?
dan friesen
History is fun when you choose arbitrary start dates.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, they're great.
dan friesen
Yeah, that really allows you to make whatever kakamame arguments you want to make.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Anyway, Black Lives Matter.
jordan holmes
India loves the United Kingdom in 1965 and later.
dan friesen
So Jesse Lee Peterson does not like Black Lives Matter.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
I imagine so.
dan friesen
A fan.
And I would say that he has an interesting complaint that might reveal something that he's not making too explicit on this episode, or maybe he just knows better than to be as outwardly homophobic as he actually is.
But that seems to be one of his problems with Black Lives Matter.
jesse lee peterson
You got to realize that Black Lives Matter is a far-left liberal radical organization that was founded by fat, black, angry, radical lesbians.
And I just never imagined that one day in a Christian nation that we would see police officers, grown men and women bowing down to a bunch of fat, black lesbians.
That's mind-blowing to see it.
These people hate God.
They hate the family.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that's.
jordan holmes
And he's angling for the slot right after Rush Limbaugh.
We listened to the Rush Limbaugh show.
Now we're on the Black Limbaugh show.
dan friesen
So they get to talking about the parties, the political parties, the Democrats, the Republicans.
jordan holmes
I bet this is super insightful.
dan friesen
Well, Alex tries to pretend that the party swap never happened.
unidentified
Well, when would it have happened?
jordan holmes
But white people in South Africa cannot get a fair shake, Dan.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
alex jones
How did the switch happen where suddenly the party of Lincoln is the KKK and the party of the KKK is the party of Lincoln?
jesse lee peterson
Well, number one, as I said, Martin Luther King, all those guys sold the black shoot of the Democratic Party.
And then the media and the race hustlers, the black race hustlers start accusing the white part, the Republican party of being white.
dan friesen
Oops.
Almost said the white party.
The white party.
jordan holmes
The white party.
Can we just do that now?
Can we just do it?
Let's just do that.
The Republican Party is the white party.
dan friesen
Jesse.
jordan holmes
The end.
dan friesen
Jesse, a little bit.
jordan holmes
Jesse, you nailed it.
You nailed it.
Don't backtrack.
dan friesen
They're trying to say that the white party.
jordan holmes
The white party.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
All right, Jess.
All right.
So one last clip here from their interview.
And one thing that you should know about Jesse Lee Peterson is that he grew up, I believe, he was in the South, and he grew up under the Jim Crow laws.
And one of his claims to fame is talking very positively about Jim Crow laws.
jordan holmes
Love me some Jim Crow.
Come on.
dan friesen
He talks a lot about how black people were better off and seems to advocate for a return of Jim Crow laws.
And I don't know if Alex was really ready for that, but he tries his best to spin the conversation.
And I'm not sure this is effective.
jesse lee peterson
I went through a lot of shots, but I don't know what to do.
alex jones
I'm saying they say that's oppression.
We're not defending that system, but at least that system was a human system that was making you strong.
And just think about the one now where people have three degrees, but no job, and they're just pissed off.
jesse lee peterson
That's right.
That word wasn't even heard of, man.
Believe me, because our parents and our grandparents were the example.
And so even though the Jim Crow laws were there, we were not affected by those laws because whenever we wanted to visit whomever we wanted to visit, white people, black people, we did it.
Because all white people didn't go for the Jim Crow law.
It was just some, not all.
And all black people would fall in for it and hated white people.
Maybe a few.
I don't know.
alex jones
The point is, you didn't take it your identity as a victim.
You decided to be successful.
That made you overcome.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that's a noble effort on Alex's part to try and be like, I'm sitting here talking to somebody who's speaking about Jim Crow laws not being a problem because, hey, some people didn't follow them.
jordan holmes
Listen, I agree with you.
Personally, I know plenty of white people who would not follow those Jim Crow laws if they were reintroduced.
Me, I would love them and enforce them, especially upon you, Jesse Lee Peterson.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, his first attempt was also kind of weak of the spin, which was at least it's human.
jordan holmes
It was a human system.
dan friesen
It was a human system, and the oppression made you stronger.
jordan holmes
You got a job.
No.
What are you doing with these degrees, Dan?
Trust in Jim Crow.
dan friesen
I mean, I did get a real sense that Alex might not have been aware that Jesse went that far.
You know, like, because if you don't know who Jesse Lee Peterson is and he comes in, he's like, hey, Jim Crow was a better time.
Like, is this a joke?
Well, are you fucking pranking me?
jordan holmes
Hold on one second.
Take off.
Look, we're not doing blackface anymore, Mr. Pranks all the time, tricking white people.
Oh, sing that song about how we're going to kill the Chinese with the nuclear.
alex jones
Sasha Baron Cohen.
jordan holmes
Come on, take the.
We're not doing Blackface anymore.
dan friesen
I don't.
I found this to be depressing.
jordan holmes
That's a good way of putting it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, there was a part of me that never wanted to really, like, I don't know.
I didn't want to see Jesse Lee Peterson on Alex's show.
I just don't like it.
I think it's a bad combination.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I feel like Jesse showing up here on Alex's show is a bad sign of things to come.
I don't like what they could possibly get into together.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I think it's a bad merging of what you're talking about.
jordan holmes
Lethal weapon.
Is this what we're doing?
He's about the same age as Danny Glover, isn't he?
dan friesen
Alex is too old for this show.
unidentified
Alex is a loose cannon, that's for sure.
jordan holmes
I'm going to think of his gun in his bed.
dan friesen
Very similar to Mel Gibson in many ways.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Oh, no.
This is a racist lethal weapon.
Well, I mean, you know, lethal weapon was by itself half racist lethal weapon.
dan friesen
This was a tough stretch.
The third is kind of a really bla show, and Alex seems uninspired and kind of lethargic, and I don't know what the fuck's going on.
The fourth is an unmitigated disaster.
jordan holmes
An unmitigated disaster.
From a tech point.
I'm doing that.
dan friesen
I got you.
I'm going to stop talking until you stop.
I don't caught into that nonsense.
It's a real disaster, and really I don't even know.
I just feel like if you had anybody decent working there, they wouldn't have allowed that to happen.
Someone would have caught that problem.
Like, this isn't.
jordan holmes
Ted Anderson is in the station.
dan friesen
This isn't a podcast.
This is a fucking radio show that has a million-dollar studio and a bunch of cameras and a fucking supplement line.
This is the big leagues, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This isn't acceptable.
Get your QA in order.
jordan holmes
We got to keep costs low.
The overhead is.
You heard him?
They can't even afford to give you free shipping anymore, Dan.
They definitely can't afford a competent soundboard.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It was a bummer.
And then the fact that once the content cleared up, it's just like, hey, maybe we got to kill people.
Now here's Jesse Lee Peterson.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Boo.
Boo, I say, to this.
jordan holmes
You know, I just think that it's such a positive message that Alex brings to the family.
You know, as a family, get around with your family.
dan friesen
Listen to Alex ramble about scientists getting boners.
Like a jawless people walking around like zombies.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
But, you know, I think the most important thing to really point out and focus on here is that the trend towards self-sacrifice through like maybe violence is continuing.
And, you know, there was that article in Right Wing Watch that pointed out some of this, and I'm glad that there's some more attention being paid to it, but it's a trend, and I don't expect it to cool down anytime soon.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
I think if anything, this is only going to get more severe on Alex's part.
And I hope that.
I hope that his audience is as small and unaffected as I think they probably are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I read that, and the thing I was thinking was like, you probably shouldn't have written about this at all because it makes it feel, it makes it look like it's a story.
The moment you write that and post that, you're pretty much committing to like, and next week we follow up.
Alex still calling for everybody to murder people.
Follow up for the next week.
Alex Jones still calling for everybody to murder people.
You can't just say that he said it because he's saying it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it'll continue.
And whatever he's going to say is going to be worse.
I'm almost certain.
jordan holmes
It's going to escalate.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But to counteract that, I'd like to make an announcement.
And that is on our next episode, I will be announcing the new pet.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
Yes.
Very exciting.
jordan holmes
The day has finally come.
dan friesen
Yep.
I have sort of left that thread dangling a tiny bit.
And part of that is just because of preparations that needed to be made and a slight bit of uncertainty, but it is official.
And we'll announce this on the next episode.
jordan holmes
I've been privy to your thought process, but I still await the outcome.
dan friesen
Very exciting.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
So we'll be back, Jordan.
But until then, we have a website.
unidentified
We do have a website.
jordan holmes
It's not true.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's not analogous on the Corfight and I go to Bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are Facebook Dallas.
And if you could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out those doing God's work.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm the Juiciest Ice Cube.
jordan holmes
I'm the Juiciest Ice Cube.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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