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July 10, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#455: July 7-8, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan check back on what's been going on in the present day of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex reveals that he's been an enemy of antifa for 20 years and discusses having his mind blown out on a boat on July 4th, possibly because of "planets aligning."

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alex jones
12:53
d
dan friesen
42:26
j
jordan holmes
18:28
Appearances
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joe biden
01:05
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roger stone
00:09
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Jordan.
Quick question for you.
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
Dirt.
unidentified
Dirt?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I've been growing a bunch more plants.
Oh, okay.
Plant watch.
We've got some new plants.
Nothing really too exciting to report.
I've got a bunch of...
Various vegetables that I'm growing.
There's some things that are coming in.
They're all very early stages of it.
I'm starting to...
One of the things I've really been getting a charge out of is I love the smell of dirt.
jordan holmes
You love the smell of dirt.
dan friesen
I love the smell of dirt.
It smells so good.
jordan holmes
You're a 75-year-old British woman.
dan friesen
I may be.
unidentified
I think you are.
jordan holmes
I think you might be.
dan friesen
I enjoy it.
Get my hands in there.
jordan holmes
Step out into the garden for a beat.
dan friesen
God, it smells good.
Nature!
Anyway, what about you?
jordan holmes
My partner and I picked up a very cheap copy of Mortal Kombat.
The movie?
No, no, no.
The video game.
dan friesen
Which one?
Eleven?
jordan holmes
I think it's Eleven.
The new one?
Okay, no.
Then it's the Ten.
It's a cheap used one.
dan friesen
I don't think XI is that new.
I mean, compared to Mortal Kombat 2. I don't know when!
Is it the one that has Noob Saibot?
jordan holmes
Noob Saibot has been there since I stopped.
Noob Saibot has been there since like 3?
dan friesen
A secret character in 3?
jordan holmes
That was the last one I played.
dan friesen
I never played it to begin with.
I stopped playing it when I stopped going to the arcade with my friends in 5th grade and watching them play that.
I preferred Killer Instinct.
jordan holmes
Killer Instinct, yes.
dan friesen
Because they had more interesting characters like Glacius.
jordan holmes
You like the claymation.
I get it.
dan friesen
And too much blood in Mortal Kombat, let's be honest.
jordan holmes
Oh man, there's so much now.
I felt like such an old man watching it going like, whoa, this violence might be a little over the top.
dan friesen
I understand it's camp.
jordan holmes
It's fun.
She and I play together.
It's the first time we've really played video games together.
It's fantastic.
It's great.
dan friesen
You should try and play that one Shaolin Nights or whatever.
jordan holmes
Shaolin Nights?
unidentified
Something like that?
I don't know.
dan friesen
There's one...
I remember there's one...
jordan holmes
Bushido Blade.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
For the PlayStation.
dan friesen
There's one Mortal Kombat game that's cooperative play.
And you can play together.
Oh, that's fun.
Instead of fighting against each other.
I know...
Maybe that would work better for you, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, what we're doing is going through story mode, passing the controller back and forth.
dan friesen
So you're not just ripping each other's heads off?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
This is the greatest sporting event of my life right now.
This is what I've got, okay?
dan friesen
It's a tournament.
jordan holmes
It is.
It's riveting stuff.
She was learning how to play it, and I was on the edge of my seat.
dan friesen
Who's your character?
jordan holmes
Baraka?
No, no, no.
My character...
dan friesen
Sonya Blade?
Johnny Cage?
jordan holmes
My character's Jade.
I was playing as her.
dan friesen
Katana?
jordan holmes
Everything just made sense.
I was playing everybody else.
I was struggling with her.
I was like, oh...
Oh, this is nice.
dan friesen
I know a lot more Mortal Kombat characters than I have any reason to know.
I haven't played any of the games since.
jordan holmes
Your recall for stuff that has no application to you is astonishing.
dan friesen
Yeah, troubling, some might say.
jordan holmes
Some could say that, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about July 7th and 8th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is now my autonomous zone.
Ah, hell yeah.
And, hey, it's the present day.
That's what I'll say about that.
So, before we get to that, though, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So, first of all, Jeffrey, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Jeffrey.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Ian H, and that's spelled E, oh, I'm sorry, I-A-I-N.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Ian.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Dan and Maya.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Dan and Maya.
dan friesen
Each of you are half of a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Half of one policy.
One's a policy, the other's a wonk.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Okay, fight amongst yourselves.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Next, Tom M. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Tom.
dan friesen
Thank you, Tom.
Next, Peter G. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Peter.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Max S. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Max.
dan friesen
Thanks, Max.
Next, Lindsay R. And this is spelled L-Y-N-D-Z-Y.
Cool spelling of Lindsay.
jordan holmes
That is great.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Lindsay.
dan friesen
And finally, EP Cheep.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, EP Cheep.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show.
I'd like to support these gents, too.
You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
We would appreciate it.
Or if you'd like to, you could take that generosity.
Get a real good grip on it.
Like, right around the first and second seam.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
So you're throwing a two-seam fastball here.
dan friesen
I don't know any pitches.
You just said one.
jordan holmes
I said one.
dan friesen
But I don't know how to advise someone to do it.
Anyway, throw that generosity at Charity in your area.
Helping people in need.
That would be good.
jordan holmes
We would appreciate it either.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today, like I said, we got the 7th and 8th.
So we're talking Tuesday and Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Slow news days.
Not much going on Tuesday and Wednesday.
dan friesen
Nothing is happening on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Nothing.
jordan holmes
Can't talk about Bolsonaro's positive test.
dan friesen
It does come up once.
We'll get to that.
I have a clip of that.
Let's see.
Let's play a game.
Ask me about things that might come up or might not.
jordan holmes
Let's see.
Any Supreme Court?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Decisions?
Nothing along those lines?
dan friesen
No.
Some of that news might have broken on Thursday, though.
No, no it didn't.
But maybe later in the day, Wednesday after his show.
I don't know.
But no, it doesn't.
jordan holmes
They're saying they're getting close to 60 attacks with vehicles across the country towards protesters.
dan friesen
It does not come up.
However, there was a video that Alex saw where a black guy hit a white kid.
And he punched him.
jordan holmes
Well, that invalidates everything.
dan friesen
And he does spend about 10 minutes on that video.
jordan holmes
That would make sense.
dan friesen
So no, no discussion of car attacks, though.
jordan holmes
All right.
I mean, Biden?
Are we just going to general Biden talk?
dan friesen
Yeah, a little Biden.
Not much, but yeah, a little Biden.
He hates the cops now, Biden, apparently.
unidentified
Alright, wizards.
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
Demons?
dan friesen
Yes, a lot.
jordan holmes
Alright, demons a lot.
That was almost cheating to guess that.
dan friesen
I'm kind of sad for you, because that's a good guess, wizards.
There's no business with the answer to that one being no.
It really should have been a guess.
jordan holmes
There should have been a wizard.
dan friesen
At some point.
Most of the time that I was listening to this show, I had a really difficult time even giving a shit.
Because so much of the time is just him saying the same things over and over and over and over and over and over again.
It's constant repetition.
They want to eat your kids.
They're globalists.
They're going to take you into camps.
It's just over and over again to the point where it's just...
Obviously, the intention of it is to repeat it over and over again to get to the point where the audience...
Passively accepts it.
But for me, in terms of what fuels me, the Iron Man fusion heart.
Help me out, nerd.
Help me out, nerd.
What's that made of?
jordan holmes
The arc reactor.
unidentified
That's it.
jordan holmes
There we go.
Why do I know that shit?
dan friesen
Don't you know comics?
jordan holmes
Not really, no.
Not Marvel.
dan friesen
My arc reactor, the thing that fuels my ability to really be...
Driven in this is him saying things that are different and interesting.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And it was a desert for that.
There is a little bit of stuff.
Don't get me wrong.
There's still a few things that I found to be worth our time in discussion.
jordan holmes
Not a high batting average.
dan friesen
I would say 75% of the time he was just talking about random disconnected rants about how you should be scared.
Shit's going down.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Now, granted, one of the things that's in that 25% is spectacular.
jordan holmes
But not a wizard?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Very disappointed.
dan friesen
Although it might be the work of a wizard.
Alex does not specify.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
We will leave open that possibility.
dan friesen
So anyway, here's an out of context drop from today's show.
alex jones
These people literally want to beat your brains out and take your kids away, and you're lucky if they don't eat them.
Okay?
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
So that should be sort of a sense of like, there's a lot of that.
jordan holmes
Are you lucky if they don't eat them?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Might be a push.
I mean, if they're going to kill everybody...
jordan holmes
It's kind of like...
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's one of those things.
Some people have more feelings about desecration of their body post-death than others.
jordan holmes
Not going to be an open casket if you've been eaten.
dan friesen
Certainly not.
So, I was listening to this.
Alex is, of course, mad about China.
So, we're starting here on the 7th.
He's complaining about China, and he's complaining about the media, man.
Media, they're all liars.
alex jones
And now they're saying, oh, if you're mean to the messages...
And don't listen to them.
You're going to be punished.
dan friesen
So I should clarify.
Alex is talking about how there are, I guess, promoted content on Fortnite now.
I don't know.
I don't know the deal with this.
jordan holmes
What is he doing talking about a video game at all?
dan friesen
Apparently, according to him, CNN put some broadcast on Fortnite.
And Alex is mad about that.
So that's what he's talking about.
alex jones
That's right.
You're not allowed to be on your Fortnite.
jordan holmes
All right, buddy.
You're old.
alex jones
Unless you submit to Van Jones telling you that white people are inherently bad.
When the most evil globalist corporations the planet's ever seen own Time Warner, own CNN.
I mean, CNN won't say a word about three million Muslims in death camps, millions of Christians in slave labor camps in China.
They love it.
Silicon Valley loves it.
jordan holmes
So do you!
dan friesen
He said, do your thing, China.
jordan holmes
He said, do your thing, China!
dan friesen
So one thing I don't really care about at all is whatever he's actually talking about about Fortnite.
I have no idea.
I couldn't get myself to care.
But I pulled this clip because Alex makes a claim that's categorically false.
He claims that the media, like CNN, would never talk about Muslims and camps in China, which is something Alex is completely making up.
There's this article from June 19th, 2020, titled, quote, What's Happening in China's Xinjiang, Home to 11 Million Uyghurs.
That's an article Alex probably wants to pretend doesn't exist because of what it's about.
jordan holmes
Well, it is on CNN.
dan friesen
And because it contains this paragraph.
Quote, according to an excerpt from John Bolton's forthcoming book published in the Wall Street Journal, Trump told Chinese President Xi Jinping over dinner last year that Xi should, quote, go ahead with building the camps, which Trump thought was, quote, exactly the right thing to do.
Don't want to mention that CNN has that article out.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's a good idea for him.
dan friesen
There was a big investigative piece from February titled, quote, Leaked Chinese government records reveal detailed surveillance reports on Uyghur families and Beijing's justification for mass detentions.
Going back to January 21st, 2019, there's an article on CNN titled, quote, Uyghur refugee tells of death and fear inside China's Xinjiang camps.
You can go back to February 2nd, 2018 and find the CNN article, quote, thousands of Uyghur Muslims detained in China's political education camps.
CNN has tons of articles covering various aspects of the Chinese treatment of Muslim Uyghurs, which what he's saying about it is a complete lie.
But it's important to understand what the intention of that lie is.
As Alex is on air saying what he's saying, he honestly probably has no idea whether or not CNN has covered this story.
The reality of their coverage or non-coverage of the Uyghurs is not important to Alex at all.
The only thing that matters is image and feeling.
Alex wants the audience to just believe him and assume that CNN has in fact not touched this story.
And this is built on the feeling that he's created with his narratives that CNN is in the business of never criticizing China.
The feeling is important because it helps Alex rationalize why everyone thinks Alex is a piece of shit.
It's not because he is, in fact, a piece of shit and a liar.
It's because everyone but Alex is in bed with China, and they can't stand that he has the balls to call them out.
Meanwhile, if you just take a peek at what reporting is, CNN is not afraid to cover this story.
They might be afraid to cover it in the way Alex does, which I would say is irresponsible, and maybe trying to start a war.
jordan holmes
Alex agrees with Trump!
Like, literally, like, yeah, go ahead and build those.
unidentified
I'm fine with that.
jordan holmes
They're Muslim.
Don't care.
dan friesen
He agrees with Trump if John Bolton's not full of shit, which is an important proviso.
jordan holmes
Eh, fuck him.
We're at the point now where I respect the idea of truth and fairness, but in regards to Trump, if you say the worst thing a human can say and say Trump said it, fine.
I believe you.
Like, that's it.
dan friesen
My only qualification is, I can believe you.
But I'm not going to be suckered into just automatically believing someone like John Bolton because it's something that I would be inclined to believe.
jordan holmes
Oh, because he has a massive shit-ton years of lying to everybody.
dan friesen
There's no problem.
jordan holmes
No, there's that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex, it's really important for him to create, I guess, a prop.
Or some sort of a way for him to get out of having to explain why everyone doesn't respect him.
And it must be because he has the courage to call out China when everyone else is in their pocket.
And it's just not true.
And if any of his audience even looked at, ooh, Alex loves to talk about Plato.
If they just looked out of the cave, they would see that CNN's reporting on China.
jordan holmes
Here's what I'm bummed about.
If they just Googled it...
They would not get Infowars articles up top of Google's search results for what's going on in...
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It would be literally every other news outlet.
So if Alex is...
Like, he has to take a perverse joy in lying to people to their faces, them knowing that he's lying, and him being like, you can't do anything about it.
dan friesen
Some of these people may not have good broadband.
Old man, house phone, he's probably listening on a CB.
jordan holmes
You then call someone to Google it for you.
Sure, there's an extra step, but come on!
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
It's a mess.
So this next clip, it tickled me a little bit because I, first of all, cannot believe that this is true in any way, but it's new.
alex jones
I'll never forget, running into Antifa 20 years ago, and Steve Mason, a local activist who'd been a big liberal, parents were Quakers on the East Coast, he...
He warned me.
He said, this is the main group in the future.
This is what the economists really are.
Within 20 years, they plan to overthrow everything.
This is the group.
Because he'd infiltrated them.
He'd been there.
He went deep.
We've got to talk to him in years.
We've got to get him on the show.
I hope he's alive.
dan friesen
Bad news.
I don't know if he's alive.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
How about Don DeGrand Prix?
dan friesen
Bad news.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
This is weirdly the first time I've ever heard Alex bring up this story about how he knew someone who had infiltrated Antifa 20 years ago in Austin or whatever, which is something you might think would have come up in the past.
jordan holmes
I mean, we've never dealt with Antifa before.
There have been no previous protests years past where he might have been screaming about Antifa, right?
dan friesen
I don't believe this story unless Alex and this other dude were hanging out with neo-Nazi skinheads at punk shows.
There's very little likelihood otherwise that they would have run into anyone claiming the banner of anti-fascism in the time frame that he's pretending that this went down.
jordan holmes
Nazi punks fuck on.
dan friesen
I have absolutely no idea who Steve Mason is, to give you some sense of the obscurity of that name.
I listen to Alex all the time and I have no idea who that is.
The only thing I can even find about him in looking into him a little bit is that his name appears as a participant at a Travis County Commissioner's meeting from October 27th, 1998.
jordan holmes
Alright, now I'm in.
dan friesen
He and Alex Jones, along with Alex's cameraman, Mike Hansen, appear as private citizens who spoke at the session, but it's just the minute, so I don't know what they talked about at all.
This is a meaningless piece of babbling, and odds are that this guy is dead, and now Alex is going to create a mythology out of his memory.
I knew this guy who infiltrated Antifa 20 years ago.
He said in 20 years, they're going to try and take over.
Bada bing, bada boom, here we are.
jordan holmes
John Birch Society, Steve Mason Society, my friend.
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
That'd be funny if it was Jackie Mason's brother.
dan friesen
So, Alex rambles a whole bunch about that video of the kid getting hit, and I don't care.
It's the exact same thing he does all the time whenever there is some sort of a video going around.
He gets into some of his vampire stuff here.
jordan holmes
Oh, I should have guessed vampires.
That would have been obvious.
dan friesen
Now, here's something that's kind of fun.
You'd know.
There are those in Alex's world who are Renfields.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And there are those who are Draculas.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
We get to learn about a couple folks.
I want to actually ask you here.
Don't tell me.
Write down on this piece of paper where you think these people fall.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Here are the three people that are going to be discussed.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Brian Stelter.
Okay.
Where do you think we're going here?
Okay.
All right.
Bill de Blasio.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Gavin Newsom.
These are the three.
You have to decide.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Renfield or Dracula.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Well, I mean, we don't even have the New Jersey governor who's obviously a Dracula.
He's running half of the country now.
dan friesen
Well, that is true.
He has brainwashed the entire country into wearing masks or something.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I mean, we could extend this game out and actually play with Nancy Pelosi, Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, but these are the only three people that he specifies in this clip.
And I want to try and see if you have good radar in terms of Alex's vampire watch.
jordan holmes
See, I feel like it's obvious, but every time I write down Renfield, I'm like, but maybe he has somehow twisted and inverted this guy who's just like a guy.
And turned him into the evil mastermind.
dan friesen
You mean Stelter?
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course I mean Stelter.
unidentified
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Stelter should be a Renfield.
He's just a host!
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
But it's Alex, so he could be the guy who's been secretly behind everything!
dan friesen
He does really hate Stelter.
jordan holmes
He really hates Stelter!
alex jones
Mayor de Blasio, the only person more disingenuous and creepy-looking than Brian Stelter.
I don't know.
Is he more creepy-looking than Brian Stelter, or is Governor Newsom even worse?
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
I mean, talk about winning the award for not being self-aware.
I'm sorry, folks.
I just...
Sorry.
No, no.
Get a photo of de Blasio smiling.
And, I mean, you know, that'll make your hair in the back of your neck stand up.
I mean, he's some creepy, creepy-looking deuce.
Like I said, I'm not saying they're child molesters.
I'm saying that if I was a Hollywood producer and I was casting a movie about child molesters, I would cast de Blasio.
dan friesen
Hold on a second.
Jordan, you're changing one of your answers.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I'm writing something else down.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
I just saw your hand moving.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I'm writing another note down.
Thank you.
I have not cheated.
dan friesen
I've tried to protect the purity of the term.
jordan holmes
I have not cheated.
You are proctoring.
dan friesen
All right.
alex jones
And, um, stelter immediately.
Now, if I wanted to have American Psycho 2, step aside Christian Bale.
He ain't got nothing on Newsom.
unidentified
Woo!
alex jones
Talk about, I mean, an actual Dracula.
Newsom's a Dracula.
jordan holmes
One down.
alex jones
Deliver stuff to Dracula.
jordan holmes
Three for three, baby.
alex jones
Now there's Dracula right there.
He'll kill you real good.
He will, don't you worry.
He'll tell you when you come outside your house, too, now.
Because he loves you.
Because he's Governor Newsom.
Sorry.
Let's just get right back to where we were.
dan friesen
I'm impressed, Jordan.
Congratulations.
jordan holmes
I really thought Stelter could have gone either way, but the other two seemed so obvious.
dan friesen
Yeah, Stelter was kind of the questionable one.
And I'm interested that you picked up on the fact that there would only be one Dracula.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, of course.
dan friesen
But there could have been two Draculas.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Of course there could have been.
dan friesen
There are many Draculas and Alex's.
jordan holmes
I knew Newsom was going to be the Dracula, but Stelter could have been either Renfield or Dracula.
It could have gone either way.
dan friesen
I feel like he probably...
I don't know why de Blasio isn't a Dracula.
jordan holmes
De Blasio isn't a Dracula.
dan friesen
I don't even think of him.
jordan holmes
He's the mayor of New York.
Yeah, a shit mayor like every other mayor in New York.
But still.
dan friesen
It's the biggest city in the United States.
It's a very powerful man.
You think Dracula.
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
Look, he's been emasculated by the governor of New York, the president, everybody who lives in New York.
He's a Renfield at best.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
I don't even know if I would give de Blasio some Renfield status.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, congratulations on that, Jordan.
Thank you very much.
I wish I had a larger quiz to go along with this, but we only know for sure these three people.
jordan holmes
For now.
dan friesen
We will keep you updated as more information comes in.
Dracula Watch.
So, you mentioned at the beginning of the show the fact that Bolsonaro has tested positive for COVID-19.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Now, there's some unfortunate side effects of that, and one of them is Alex forgetting how to pronounce his name.
jordan holmes
Hey!
alex jones
Brazil's Balasarno test positive for COVID-19.
Because anybody that's ever had a cold, the coronavirus test positive.
unidentified
Oh, shut up.
alex jones
While Santa Ana...
jordan holmes
That was your news!
alex jones
Abbott admits low death COVID rate in Texas.
Still wants to shut down Texas economy anyways.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Bolsonaro is...
jordan holmes
Do you mean Balsasarno?
Balsasarno?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyone who has a cold is COVID, so that's why Bolsonaro does.
Great!
Fun times, Alex.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
That is the call for revolution that he should be...
Like, they're coming to kill Bolsonaro.
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
That's the call for revolution.
dan friesen
It seems like that should be Alex's angle on it instead of just like, eh, everybody wants a call.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got COVID-19.
dan friesen
No big deal.
I bet eventually if he feels he needs to, he'll amplify it into they're trying to take out these nationalist leaders or whatever.
Yeah, they have to.
Also, good to know that Governor Abbott is now Santa Ana.
jordan holmes
Did you know that?
joe biden
I didn't.
jordan holmes
I didn't know that.
dan friesen
This is news.
This is an update.
jordan holmes
Did he reincarnate into him or get possessed by Santa Anna?
dan friesen
I don't know.
He is Santa Anna now, though.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
For Alex.
And that means that he's going to win.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's going to win wrong, Dan.
That's the point.
It's about winning right.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So Roger Stone comes on.
And I gotta say...
jordan holmes
I would still like a pardon, please!
dan friesen
Yes.
There's not much to speak of on this entire episode.
There's so much filling time.
This is the last clip I have from the 7th.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, that's bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's not good.
And actually, at the end, he talks to that Pastor Rodney Howard Brown.
I just turned off the episode.
I was so bored.
I was like, I don't care.
I know you're just going to yell about how you want your church to be open.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I understand.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
Click.
But Roger's on, and I think there's something interesting here, because he's pretending that he's an expert on Ghislaine Maxwell.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course he is.
dan friesen
And knows all this stuff.
jordan holmes
So he's saying he should also go to jail again?
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
He should double go to jail?
dan friesen
He doesn't know them.
jordan holmes
Is he going to double jail?
dan friesen
He doesn't know them.
He's just studied it.
He's studied it.
jordan holmes
He's going to do time and a minimum security and then a maximum security.
Is that what's going on?
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
He has a new theory to float.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And this one's pretty fun.
roger stone
And as I first revealed, I think Bill was going to the island because of his...
Affair with Ghislaine Maxwell.
unidentified
That's the connection.
They were having a torrid affair, both in New York and in the Virgin Islands.
dan friesen
So he's done his research and he's found that Bill Clinton was having an affair with Ghislaine Maxwell, but his research did not lead him to the correct pronunciation of her name.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, you look into it, you only read it.
Because he knows her so well.
dan friesen
Where'd he read that?
Where'd he read this information?
Per se, Jordan?
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
L?
Was it an L?
dan friesen
This is a conclusion that it strikes me as difficult to come to only by reading.
Seems to me this is something that's a product of thinking and shit-talking.
jordan holmes
I feel like Larry Nichols should fall for the Raptors any time Roger Stone is like, Bill Clinton probably fucked somebody, and Larry Nichols just falls.
unidentified
Witches.
dan friesen
I think Larry Nichols might now be too much for Alex.
jordan holmes
He might be beyond...
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he did make that brief reappearance to talk about Adam Schiff and his Egyptian sex parties.
jordan holmes
That one is also true.
unidentified
Larry hasn't been seen since.
dan friesen
He threatened to blackmail coggers, disappeared forever, came back just to talk about Egyptian-themed sex parties, and then disappeared.
jordan holmes
You know, which is terrible, because that's a man who brings the juice when the time calls for him.
dan friesen
He really does.
Sometimes you need him.
So Alex comes in on the 8th, and, you know, it's the same.
It sucks.
The show is walking through mud these last few days.
But there is something great.
And I don't think that it's the product of what he's teasing here, but we start the episode with a little bit of a...
I got some fucking big stuff.
I got some big stuff.
alex jones
I was just thinking during the break about what I should cover next, not because of lack of news.
It's so incredible.
Let me just tell you a few of the things that are coming up right now.
I've thought long and hard since I learned about this on Saturday.
I confirmed it was true on Saturday.
jordan holmes
Did ya?
alex jones
And then I made some more phone calls, and then some more big events happened, and I'm usually very decisive.
I don't know if it's the best to talk about this right now.
Let me put it to you this way.
I mean, I know what's going on.
unidentified
Do you?
alex jones
But is it good for me to announce this?
Because I don't know why the White House hasn't announced this.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
And so should I try to get on the phone?
Because if I want to talk to the White House, I can get people to call me back.
dan friesen
Shut up.
alex jones
And I just don't have time to play games.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
Sorry.
alex jones
Here's the problem.
jordan holmes
What's the problem?
alex jones
It's such a big issue.
I respect the White House.
And I respect people that are working hard to fix things.
But then I know the different angles of it, and I think it's important to talk about what's going on so the public knows.
But no one knows about this yet, and I feel bad not telling you.
jordan holmes
Shut up!
alex jones
So I'm really preoccupied with this one issue right now to the point of not being able to do the show.
I've got to really think about it.
Should I break this information down?
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
Maybe I'll wait another day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Fuck you.
alex jones
I'm done talking about that at least for now.
Hell, I might just talk about it next time, but I don't know.
dan friesen
I just want to fucking throw a shoe at him.
It's just soap.
jordan holmes
That is a Dragon Ball Z, like, right before the final fight episode.
The last episode, you're like, okay.
The fight is all set up.
And then right before the final fight, there's a full episode where it's like, okay, do you remember this guy?
We fought over here.
unidentified
We fought over here.
jordan holmes
And you're screaming at Toonami at four in the morning.
Just play the cartoon TV show!
dan friesen
That's over two minutes of nothing.
You said nothing.
jordan holmes
Should I tell you?
dan friesen
Well, Alex doesn't.
And I don't know what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
He's talking about something that the White House should be announcing.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Great.
And guess what?
Let's say a couple days from now he says something that he reports as big news.
I still have no idea if this was what he was talking about.
jordan holmes
It's exactly what he was talking about.
This can't exist.
dan friesen
This shouldn't exist.
jordan holmes
No, it's what he's talking about.
dan friesen
Horrible.
So he won't say what it is, but he does tease a little bit of what ballpark we're in.
alex jones
It's some good news.
Let's just say this.
If you thought we were going 200 miles an hour in a collision course with a globalist a week ago, we were.
We're going 5,000 miles an hour now.
Woo!
Woo!
And let me tell you, Trump's definitely for real.
Definitely for real.
jordan holmes
Oh, that sounds sad.
dan friesen
How is this any different than the QAnon shit?
jordan holmes
That's so sad.
dan friesen
This is just doing the same thing.
Oh, we're heading for a confrontation with the globalists so soon.
Oh, I can't tell you anything about it.
Trust me.
I have this big news.
The White House will answer my phone calls.
It's all the same shit.
jordan holmes
Look, you've been strung along for four years now, and none of this stuff has happened.
But seriously, this time.
Tomorrow, I am going to announce the thing that totally happened that increased our speed from 200 miles to 5,000 miles per hour on a scale of what?
I don't know.
That sounds too fast, Dan.
dan friesen
It is too fast.
Here's where I got really confused.
Sure.
Because I don't think the clip that I'm about to play for you is what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But it could be.
It could be.
jordan holmes
That's the trick.
dan friesen
Right.
And it also could be the work of a wizard.
alex jones
Do you understand that...
Physically, the planets aligned on Saturday.
It won't happen again for a very long time.
jordan holmes
I swear to God, he said that a year ago.
alex jones
Next time will be 2161.
140 years from now.
And I was out on the lake with friends on Saturday, and I was like, what the hell's going on?
We're all out there.
We're like...
Did somebody spike the beer with LSD or something?
We're like, what the hell?
unidentified
We were all...
alex jones
And then everybody at the office, I was talking, they were like, yeah, man, I'm having really weird dreams.
I can't sleep.
Because they're going to be aligned like this for almost a month.
They went right into their main alignment on Saturday on July 4th.
jordan holmes
It's Thomas Jefferson's idea.
alex jones
I go, man, I'm telling you!
The tipping point's here.
I got the download.
We're winning.
And all this good stuff's about to happen.
I can't put my finger on it.
And meanwhile, it's a giant planetary alignment.
And that's when the Romans would go to war.
That's when big decisions would get made.
I mean, that's when all the cultures, because they didn't know what it was.
They just knew it was important and something was happening.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
Magnetically, it...
It does something.
dan friesen
Alex is now a solstice guy.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
Holy shit.
dan friesen
Just to be perfectly clear with you, planetary alignment is physically impossible.
There has never been and will never be a point when all the planets align based on their positioning and orbits in space.
jordan holmes
I don't think you know that.
dan friesen
It just doesn't happen.
jordan holmes
You can't confirm that.
dan friesen
When people talk about planetary alignment, what they're actually referring to is that, you know, like...
There's a certain number of planets in the same section of the sky at a certain time.
That's what they mean.
It doesn't actually mean like, oh, look, it's all in a line.
jordan holmes
Do people really still think when they look at the solar system that it's a flat line like they show you in grade school?
dan friesen
Yeah, and also all of those things that you end up seeing of the modeling that you have of the planets are in line.
That's from the perspective of the sun.
It's a little nuance, too.
Depending on where you are, things look different.
Anyway.
On July 4th, last Saturday, Jupiter and Pluto were at the tail end of the second of their three conjunctions this year.
It's actually a really big year for Jupiter and Pluto.
jordan holmes
Oh, good.
I'm glad they're having fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, we have a rare opportunity in these three conjunctions where the bright light off Jupiter, it's close enough to Pluto that allows people with telescopes to be able to see Pluto a lot better.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's cool.
dan friesen
But this doesn't have any effect on electromagnetics or whatever the fuck Alex is rambling about.
jordan holmes
Pluto's not a planet.
dan friesen
Well, depends on who you ask.
jordan holmes
No, it doesn't.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm one of those...
jordan holmes
You're a Pluto truther?
You're a Pluther?
dan friesen
Look, when I was coming up, Pluto is a planet.
And it still is to me.
jordan holmes
So it must stay.
dan friesen
According to space.com, there was also a full moon on Saturday, but if you were looking at it at the right time, you could also see Jupiter and Saturn.
It was a really cool visual thing, but that's not planets aligning, and it causes no magic.
jordan holmes
Are you sure it doesn't cause magic?
dan friesen
Yes!
jordan holmes
On July 4th, the planets were perfectly in line.
You know, their main being perfectly in line day.
dan friesen
Right, right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Really?
God.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's amazing.
jordan holmes
You can't say that out loud and think that you're not the dumbest person alive.
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
Because of the specifics Alex used, particularly the it won't happen again until 2161 part.
jordan holmes
You're going to need to explain that to me.
dan friesen
I was able to track this down, and it comes from a meme that was on Facebook.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
Alex just saw some...
jordan holmes
We're gonna die!
We're gonna die because meme people are living!
dan friesen
Alex just saw some, like, crystal shop meme.
jordan holmes
God.
Damn it.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
I was out on the lake, and it was like we took LSD.
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
The planets exist within four-dimensional space.
They're not just, like, straight line on a flat surface.
It's like they're all over the place, man.
unidentified
It's true.
jordan holmes
They spin everywhere.
There's ones that go all the way over.
Oh, God.
I hate everybody.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yep.
It's pretty fun.
All right.
So, Alex...
This is maybe one of the only things that I really was like, alright, we got an episode.
jordan holmes
Did he release the Titans, though?
I saw Disney's Hercules when it happened.
dan friesen
There's no discussion of Titans, nor Krakens.
But Alex was really fucked up by this planetary alignment.
It really did a number on him.
unidentified
No, it didn't!
dan friesen
Of course not.
alex jones
So there's a saying in big corporate deals and a saying in religious circles.
Everybody knows about it.
It's called, we don't make decisions until the planets align.
Well, that's a figurative but also a literal statement.
unidentified
Oh, it's not!
alex jones
So in the next month or so, we're still going to be in that alignment.
Now, the closest alignment happened July 4th.
And, again, I physically had only had a few beers.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
You were supposed to quit drinking.
alex jones
I was like, yeah, what's going on?
Moonbeams?
We weren't thinking that there was all the planets right lined up with the moon and us.
jordan holmes
What the moon and us?
alex jones
This is crazy.
I'm sure you felt it.
I'm sure you have been experiencing it.
Because the last two nights, I always sleep really good.
I saw my wife this morning.
I'm like, what is going on, man?
I cannot sleep.
I'm having the craziest dreams.
She'll say, I am too.
So is our three-year-old daughter.
What in the hell is going on?
People are having anxiety.
And it's just going down, folks.
It's going down right now.
dan friesen
This just reminds me of the call of Cthulhu.
Because a big part of the setup of the story is the protagonist finding a bunch of clippings of artists, people who are really sensitive, having terrifying dreams around the time when Cthulhu woke from his dreaming in R 'lyeh.
I feel like Alex is just describing that the stars are right for Cthulhu.
The great old ones to come back.
jordan holmes
I'm going to pitch you something here.
Real quick.
As far as having trouble sleeping, and it being a certain day, the 4th of July, a day known for...
Exactly.
That might be why you had trouble sleeping.
I was going to pitch that real quick.
dan friesen
I found fireworks very interesting this year.
There did seem to be a lot of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it also never bothered me.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And I'm one of the people who's the most bothered by noise.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Absurdly.
dan friesen
I'm profoundly sensitive to noise.
Yeah.
And that never bothered me at all.
Although, now that I'm saying that out loud, I don't want it to sound like, if it did bother you...
Something wrong with you.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Or anything.
But, yeah, it was interesting.
jordan holmes
I imagine if you were in L.A., you would have a very different story.
Did you see the overhead helicopter shots?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
Like, they had an overhead helicopter shot, and somebody even put it to Blade Runner music because it was wall-to-wall just flashbangs.
Like, it was really nuts to see.
dan friesen
The 4th was pretty loud around this neighborhood.
It was pretty raucous, but still, you know.
To me, that all sort of fits into the blend of city noise.
You know, like the train in the distance doesn't bother me.
People going through the streets, cars and shit.
It doesn't bother me somehow.
It's weird.
It's weird how the brain works that way.
jordan holmes
I think it's because you're prepared for it.
dan friesen
Maybe, but it's so subconscious.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
You know, it's not like I'm controlling filtering those things out.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
dan friesen
It's weird.
Because it's not louder than noise, or it is louder than noises that bother the shit out of me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
Brains, guys.
jordan holmes
Brains!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What are they up to?
dan friesen
Right.
This is a conversation about a real thing about a brain, as opposed to Alex's being profoundly altered by his planets and the moon being in line.
jordan holmes
I assume he includes Pluto.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
He totally includes Pluto.
dan friesen
That's the one thing he and I agree on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
So he talks more about this.
alex jones
Because I'm not into astrology.
I am into astronomy.
But astrology is kind of the ancients trying to understand what they were feeling.
unidentified
Nope.
alex jones
The police will tell you crime goes up triple during a full moon.
jordan holmes
They will not.
alex jones
They call people lunatics.
jordan holmes
It does not happen.
alex jones
They go crazy when there's a full moon.
Well, what's that doing?
It's not just more light at night.
It's electromagnetic.
dan friesen
So it is interesting.
There's actually a study from 1984 in the British Medical Journal that looked at crime rates from three towns between 1978 and 1982.
And they found, you know, triple might be a little off, but it was a pretty increased crime rate on full moons as opposed to other days in the lunar cycle.
Other subsequent studies have been inconclusive, with many showing no effect at all from full moons and some showing slight increases.
I can't really explain that 1984 study other than to say that there may be another variable involved in the structure of the study that didn't capture in its explanation.
I don't know if you can ascribe that to lunar cycles.
Especially considering the other sort of contradictory studies that have happened.
jordan holmes
This has been a serious bone.
This is nearly ending my relationship level argument.
My partner really believes in the full moon.
And I've just had to accept it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it affects the tides.
jordan holmes
She says that!
dan friesen
And we're mostly watered.
That's actually in the discussion section of that article.
jordan holmes
Oh, for sure.
unidentified
I'm sure it is.
dan friesen
In the British Journal of...
The British Medical Journal.
jordan holmes
I understand.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't...
I think it's...
You know...
I understand where she's coming from.
And I also understand where the other side is based in other studies not showing back.
Other than that stuff though, Alex is correct about the etymology of lunatic.
That was based on archaic beliefs that people who lost their mind had been affected by some change in the moon.
I spend a lot of time pointing out when he and all of his guests just make up what words mean, so I felt it was only fair that I include this example of a time when he didn't fuck one up.
Good job, Alex.
You got one.
jordan holmes
I feel like that's common knowledge, but okay.
No, no, I agree.
The bar is so low.
The bar is very low.
I agree.
I agree.
dan friesen
So we know that Alex is probably the font from which all art is created.
jordan holmes
But only when the planets align.
dan friesen
Right.
Everybody who's anybody loves Infowars.
Of course.
And he's probably really been the thing that's inspired...
Probably everything that you like, but you just don't realize.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
And here's one example of that.
alex jones
You know, Infowars inspired this song.
Guys on record.
unidentified
When your voice is inside your head, you refuse to leave me.
Then, years later, those type of folks wouldn't even...
alex jones
Talk to him for us.
Because whether it's this band or whether it's Muse or whether it's any of them, they get record company pressure put on them.
And then they decide to not be patriots.
They decide to be more mainline, so the angel of political death passes over them.
But then in the end, you lose everything.
You lose your whole civilization, your whole society.
dan friesen
So that song is The Pretender by the Foo Fighters.
The idea that Alex inspired this song is a little far-fetched, considering that this is from their 2007 album.
It was written by Dave Grohl, who's been famous since at least 1991 as a member of Nirvana.
jordan holmes
Famous for loving Alex.
dan friesen
Right, but he's saying that they get famous and won't come on my show.
He was famous since 91. When did Big Me come out?
That was the first Foo Fighters symbol, right?
jordan holmes
That was late 90s, wasn't it?
That was way back.
dan friesen
Maybe 97. He came around with Nirvana in Nevermind.
unidentified
He was only the drummer in Nirvana, alright?
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
Then when he became a frontman five years later...
dan friesen
I don't think in 2007 he was still coming up.
I think he was at the point of like gigantic star already.
jordan holmes
Not just that, but he'd also just released drums on Queens of the Stone Age album.
Jesus.
dan friesen
He was essentially what I would say established as one of the most securely famous artists in pop music.
He could do whatever the fuck he wanted to do artistically.
He played drums, like you said, for Queens of the Stone Age and plenty of other bands.
If you look at his credits, it's insane that someone that famous would just be like...
Yeah, I'll play for you.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Dude loves playing drums.
dan friesen
Yeah, he played a huge role in elevating Tenacious D to mainstream popularity for seemingly almost no reason.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the pick of destiny.
He was also the devil in the music video and shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he played on their album.
He played the drums on their album.
In his career, he's been a vocal advocate for LGBTQ rights, and he supports gun control.
He's such a Democrat named Grohl, this guy.
How big of a Democrat is he?
He played the song My Hero at the 2012 Democratic National Convention, presumably about Barack Obama.
jordan holmes
That was because these big album companies forced these guys who used to go on Infowars and were patriots are screaming at all.
Oh, they love Obama now.
Thanks, Barry Gordy.
dan friesen
There's basically zero chance that Dave Grohl would be an Alex Jones guy.
But that song, The Pretender, in interviews has talked about how that's about political turbulence.
So it's easy to see how Alex could hear it and imagine that it's about himself.
jordan holmes
It's about political turbulence, which means it's about Alex.
dan friesen
Right.
What the fuck?
So that was funny.
There's no way that I believe any of this.
jordan holmes
Well, let me tell you something about this movie called Guardians of the Galaxy.
dan friesen
Almost.
Almost.
Alex could have been Star-Lord.
jordan holmes
Could have been Star-Lord.
dan friesen
So, Alex, ooh, this would have gotten him fired, this next clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
For sure.
If he was in Guardians of the Galaxy, fired for this.
He's trying to talk about how bad the globalists are and accidentally says some things that are kind of positive about Hitler.
alex jones
And again, I want listeners to understand something.
I could spend 20 hours going over each little piece of this summation and documenting it in their own words every statement.
This is not conjecture.
There is a giant long-term planetary corporate directive developed inside the British Empire starting in about the 1850s.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
alex jones
Adopted as a world government plan at the end of World War II.
But already in place around much of the world.
Hitler was not fighting against the main plan directive.
He wanted control of the plan.
And to direct it differently, to strategically only wipe out certain groups.
His plan is to finally have a post-human world, which sounds insane.
It is insane.
Hitler did not want to kill everyone.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
Hitler was a very bad person.
unidentified
Compared to these people, less insane.
alex jones
Totally insane.
Compared to these people, same.
dan friesen
This is a conversation you don't really need to have.
jordan holmes
It is not hard to not praise Hitler, dude.
I do it all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, you get yourself into murky territory when, like, because I know the point he wants to make, and that is that the globalists want to kill everybody, whereas Hitler just wanted to kill the Jews.
jordan holmes
I mean, look, just from a numbers perspective, he's better.
unidentified
That's kind of what Alex wants to say.
dan friesen
You don't need to say that.
You don't need to get into any of this.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
It's not territory you can really walk very well.
Like, you're gonna end up saying something fucked up.
jordan holmes
Especially if you're Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah, like, hey, Hitler was sane compared to the globalists.
Hitler wasn't that bad.
Alex, don't do this.
Just don't do it.
jordan holmes
Even your most generous devil's advocate position eventually gets to, like, I'm not saying he's not...
Bad.
Which is not the way you start a sentence.
dan friesen
No, because once you start going down this road, you realize you have to over-qualify everything, and that's why Alex is like, he is a bad guy compared to the globalists.
Not as crazy.
jordan holmes
I mean, look, malaria's killed probably 25 billion people.
It didn't just choose the Jews.
Hitler's not worse than malaria.
dan friesen
Now, the thing that's particularly distasteful about this is one of these things is real.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The other one is made up.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
Alex's whole globalist plan thing is of his own paranoia and delusions.
What Hitler did was real.
jordan holmes
Hitler was not...
Look.
dan friesen
He's not as bad as the things I scare myself thinking about.
Well, that doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
Hey, did you see Independence Day?
Hitler wasn't as bad as those aliens.
They were trying to kill everybody.
They had places all over every monument, all over the world.
Hitler just wanted everybody else's monuments.
He wanted to keep his own.
dan friesen
Yeah, I gotta say, for these reasons, and almost certainly plenty of others, just avoid this, Alex.
jordan holmes
That's a smart move.
unidentified
Also, you're fired from Guardians 3. You will still get a screenwriting credit, thanks.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex slanders a man who is dead, and I hope his estate sues him.
alex jones
In fact, the head of the UT botany department was a eugenicist.
He was Jewish.
And my dad was one of the highest test score folks in high school.
So, in high school, he was already at UT in Plan 2. And Professor Spear, you know, called him into his office.
My dad used to go over to his house and eat lunch and stuff, too.
And he said, David, you know, the Nazis were bad because they were only targeting certain people.
But you've got to know, eugenics is good.
And, you know, we're just going to have to carry it out against everyone.
And as long as it's against everyone, it's fair.
dan friesen
So now Alex has, I've been looking for a clip like that for quite a while because Alex has told this story many times and talked about Dr. Erwin Spear a number of times.
But generally speaking, they're not in the same clip.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But in this clip, he brings it together.
He is defaming Erwin Spear, saying that he was trying to recruit people into a eugenics extermination program.
If Erwin Spear's family wants to sue Alex, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't have standing to do that.
unidentified
We'll give you a clip.
dan friesen
This is concrete defamation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, not hard.
dan friesen
He's not a public figure.
He was just a professor at UT.
This is outrageous.
The things that he's being accused of, too.
He wants to kill everybody.
jordan holmes
Not just that, but it seems as though he's literally grooming young boys to turn them into...
dan friesen
Murderers.
jordan holmes
Genociders.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's a little bit of a problem.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems like this one could at least get an easy Alex having to apologize.
For sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
If I was related to Erwin Spear, I would do it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It would be fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, you know, some people...
Might not want to for their own reasons.
jordan holmes
Looks like we're sending in some 23andMe information, Dan.
We might get lucky.
dan friesen
So, this next clip is kind of like an extension of Alex's sort of regular trend that we've been seeing where it's escalating violence.
Just a lot of like...
You know, hey, it might be time to kill, and God will tell you when, because you're the tool and the instrument of God's vengeance.
jordan holmes
But Bolsonaro has COVID!
You're already there, man!
You're already there!
dan friesen
Everybody has a cold.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about then?
What are we angry about?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So this is a troubling escalation of that.
alex jones
This has all been set up to make you obsolete, to dehumanize you, to suck the life out of you, to dumb you down, to make you pathetic, to take your family away from you, and they admit it!
And I don't want to be part of it!
jordan holmes
Lies.
alex jones
We have to get control of our governments.
We have to reverse the technocracy plan, the post-human plan.
And if governments won't do it, we have to start talking about what we're going to do and who's going to step up and take one for the team.
I don't want to go there, but we can't just sit here and let these people do it.
The leadership of the globalist operation must be dealt with.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
Black.
What does take one for the team mean?
jordan holmes
I think, first and foremost, it means that Alex, for all his pretensions towards being a revolutionary or anything like that, is absolutely saying, hey, somebody else do this.
Please.
Somebody else do this.
dan friesen
Someone else has to step up and go on a kamikaze mission against George Soros.
jordan holmes
Some low-level grunt has to show up.
dan friesen
Right.
Be a hero.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Alex, tell fucking Owen Schreier to go kill him if that's what you want.
dan friesen
This kind of thing is so in line with the trend that we've been seeing over the past month, at least, has been when it's gotten really explicit.
But that, to me, is such a further pushing of it.
Because someone's going to have to take one for the team, who's going to step up?
These kinds of things are the sort of language you would employ if you were trying to get some I'm the person who's supposed to do that.
I've been looking for a way to step up.
This is it.
I can be the tool of God's vengeance.
I love the team.
I will take one for the team.
It seems to me very difficult.
As we go further and further, and this keeps happening, and he's getting more and more clear, it's more and more difficult for me to accept the proposition that he's not aware of what he's doing.
Yeah, totally.
I'm not saying I'm 100% convinced, but I'm becoming less not convinced.
jordan holmes
I would say, here's what I think.
Rationally, I don't think he actually wants anybody to kill anybody.
Emotionally, I think he wants more than anything for somebody to carry out His vicarious justice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, that feeling of, like, I'm so angry all the time, and I'm impotent about it, and I can't do anything, and I definitely don't have the guts to actually do anything, so I would like a proxy to go visit my vengeance upon someone else.
dan friesen
You may be right.
I mean, I don't know what the distinction between emotional and rational is.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think he doesn't want an actual revolution.
dan friesen
But what I mean is, like, we can't...
We can't parse that.
You and I sitting here can't parse that.
jordan holmes
Totally true.
dan friesen
All we have to go on is what he presents on the show and how he carries himself.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I mean, yeah, I would hope that his rational mind is like, I don't want people to die because of my words.
But who knows?
That's us ascribing our rationality to him.
He may actually want people to be hurt.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
In the same way that it seems like that's what he's emotionally...
I don't know, but it's getting really troubling.
jordan holmes
Now, here's the other thing about that.
What he just described is, I would like, starting now, for a group of people to plan how to commit murder.
That is a crime, Dan.
That's conspiracy.
To commit murder.
dan friesen
Well, it's inspiring a conspiracy, I guess.
He's probably not involved in it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but I mean, I wouldn't announce my plan to commit a massive crime on the airwaves.
dan friesen
See, that's why he's in the clear.
So, Alex goes to calls on this episode.
He takes some calls.
And this first guy, he wants to know if Kanye is for real.
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex's answer is dumb.
unidentified
It's an honor to talk with you.
jordan holmes
I just have one more question.
unidentified
What do you think about Kanye West?
jordan holmes
Do you think that he's serious?
unidentified
Do you think that it's all sort of like a facade?
alex jones
No, it's not a facade.
He saw his wife and he saw her dad and teaching kids to chop their balls off.
That was too much for him.
And he knows Black Lives Matter.
Wants to kill all the black people.
And he's a wild man.
And he's 100% real.
It doesn't mean he's not a bad guy at some level.
So am I. But he wants to be with God and he wants to be with Jesus.
He understands evil when he sees it, and he's making the right choice.
Now, does that mean he's still not an entrepreneur?
Does that mean he's still in the showboat?
That's why he's successful.
He's very talented.
Most Kanye West music, I listen to it.
Most rap, I listen to it, I don't like.
I mean, I like only the good stuff.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
alex jones
I like Two Life Crew and stuff like that.
I'm too short.
unidentified
I'm going to stop now.
alex jones
The good stuff back in the past.
Good songs about booty, booty.
Okay, I'm going to stop right there.
Listen, God bless you and I appreciate your call.
We're having a little too much fun here.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
A lot of fun.
Yeah, there's so much similarity between Kanye West and two live crew.
jordan holmes
Is he preemptively licking Kanye's boots on the off chance that Kanye becomes president?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Is that what he was just doing?
dan friesen
No.
Alex, I think, has a keen awareness that Kanye probably has something to promote coming up, and Alex would like to be a stop on his promotion tour.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
That's what's going on here.
Everybody needs to stop paying attention to this nonsense.
And great.
I mean, it just highlights Alex's lack of seriousness, but whatever.
This next clip is interesting.
We got a caller who wants to talk about some spirituality.
Apparently, face masks.
jordan holmes
Aspiritual.
dan friesen
Bad for spirits.
jordan holmes
Bad for spirits.
dan friesen
Yes.
Because they change your breathing pattern.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And your breathing pattern getting more shallow has some negative effect on your spirit.
unidentified
That's the mark of God.
Anything that can breathe, it has God in it.
And anything that doesn't breathe, like the drones and stuff, obviously not a product of God.
So all colors are sharing the same breath.
And they're driving the breathing algorithm into a shallow breathing algorithm.
So we manifest from a shallow place.
It's a fear pattern.
You know, every emotion.
I think it's more about stopping you from screaming.
dan friesen
Muffling a scream?
I think that's typically why people put their hand over...
That's usually it.
jordan holmes
It's not usually to keep the Holy Ghost out.
dan friesen
No, it's not to alter your breathing patterns.
jordan holmes
I'll cut off your connection with the most high by holding my hand over your mouth.
dan friesen
So I was listening to that guy talk about the breathing patterns and the spirit and stuff.
I feel like I've heard this stuff before.
And I know I have.
Because it's all just new-agey nonsense that's getting recycled.
And this guy's call is almost entirely just rehashing of new-age shit that I remember from a fucking decade ago.
unidentified
But we're going into massive planetary shifts, like you said, and there's going to be a big one on December 21st, and that's what they say.
jordan holmes
December 21st, 2012?
unidentified
It's the true beginning, and that's an air age, and I feel like the breath of God, the Spirit, it'll be more energy in the air and more clarity.
alex jones
Well, let me tell you, I don't get into mumbo-jumbo.
I get into what works and what's real, and I'm telling you, this July 4th...
That planetary alignment, we were all high as kites just from it, and still, days later, can't sleep.
Everybody I talk to can feel it.
I mean, can you feel it?
And guaranteed, these evil people are scared.
They feel it.
That's why they're trying to exercise power over us, hoping they can suppress us.
dan friesen
You were just drunk on a boat and got sunstroke or something.
Like, that's...
You just got sun poisoning.
You just forgot to put sunscreen on.
Got a little too much.
This is my calendar stuff all over again.
jordan holmes
December 21st, 2021 now?
Are we just transcribing?
dan friesen
They had it inverted.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Transposing.
dan friesen
From seeing some of these accounts that follow QAnon stuff on Twitter, I've seen some stuff about...
You know, densities and dimensions and transcendence.
This is all the same stuff.
It's all just being recycled from all of these blogs that were doing the New Age bullshit.
For years.
It's all the same.
It's all exactly the same.
It's very frustrating.
jordan holmes
It's a real bummer.
Because, not least of which, because, especially after going through Carrie Cassidy's bullshit, where it's like, oh, we scratch a space weirdo and they hate the Jews.
Like, now you're seeing all these new age weirdos join the QAnon train and it's like, hold on a second, you liked crystals ten years ago and now you also want to kill the Jews?
What is going on here?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's, uh, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know exactly what the phenomenon is, but I have to.
I would assume that it has something to do with eroding critical thinking skills based around various...
I don't know how I would put it, but just like things...
The longer you stay in communities that are based on just blind acceptance of nonsense, the more susceptible you are to co-opting.
So you could stay in a crystal community for a really long time, and nothing could happen because maybe you and...
Your friends just like crystals.
And maybe you meditate and you ascribe some effects of meditation to the crystals themselves.
You can all have a really good time.
Now, let's assume that somebody is a fuckhead who comes into your crystal community.
jordan holmes
A super spreader, if you will.
dan friesen
Yeah, and starts sowing ideas of, like, I don't know.
I don't even know exactly the form it would take.
I think people are vulnerable in those communities to being co-opted by people who have bad will.
And I think that that's why you see that.
Less than just like, it's inevitable that it will happen.
I think that a lot of those ideas are really attractive.
I speak for personal experience, too.
Human potential stuff has always been really fascinating to me.
And so you can find yourself gravitating towards those communities and they become Just large collections of people who are sitting ducks for very talented radicalizers.
jordan holmes
You get into groupthink and then a demagogue comes in and all of a sudden you go from being a community to being a mob.
dan friesen
It can happen.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
It's a bummer.
jordan holmes
It's a real bummer.
dan friesen
But the thing that I think is really interesting about this is that we've also seen Alex become more into that stuff, too.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's talking about tripping his balls off because the planets aligning.
jordan holmes
He's quite literally getting high off of his own supply at this point.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
So this next caller also had a prophetic dream about Alex.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The show's getting real weird.
jordan holmes
This is getting weird.
dan friesen
Yeah, especially since we just did that 2013 episode where it's like everything's pretty normal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just imagining like in 2013 someone calling in and being like, hey Alex, I had a prophetic dream about you.
What?
alex jones
Jeff in Canada.
Thanks for calling Jeff and Ben, Alex, and John.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hey Alex, thanks for taking my call.
alex jones
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
I've been a listener for about eight years and two and a half years ago I had a I had a prophetic dream about you.
jordan holmes
Two and a half years ago.
unidentified
Technicolor imagery and whatnot.
I'm not going to share it on air, but I'm going to share what was...
alex jones
By the way, I had a discussion with Tim Fruget this morning about dreams the last few nights, and he said it's like cartoon Technicolor.
Get Fruget over here in the control room, see if he's here.
A bunch of his wife is having these big, vivid, technicolor dreams, like where the reds, blues, and yellows really pop.
Is that what you're talking about?
unidentified
Totally.
It was like absolutely electric, what I experienced.
This was two and a half years ago.
dan friesen
So, I mean, you had a vivid dream about Alex six years into listening to him pretty regularly.
That makes sense.
Around that period of time, Alex was screaming a lot of sensational shit right after the election.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Makes sense that maybe some of that would have seeped into your brain and you'd have a dream about him.
It doesn't mean it's prophetic.
Anyway, he said that he doesn't want to talk about what the dream was.
jordan holmes
Wow, it'll ruin the prophecy.
That's how it works.
It's like a birthday wish.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Alex insists on hearing what this dream was about.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's not that good.
alex jones
What'd you say?
unidentified
I've had about a dozen really profound, what I would call God dreams in my life, and this was the last one I had.
alex jones
What'd you say?
unidentified
25 years.
What did I see?
Yeah.
I'll tell you.
I'm a truck driver, and I was sitting in a truck.
I was sitting on the passenger side, and I kind of woke up as the truck was going down the road, and I looked over because it was just like I came to, and there was nobody driving the truck, except I could see this hand on the wheel and a hand on the door.
The cruise control was on, and we were going super fast, and I looked, and it was you, and you had your hand on the door and a hand on the wheel, but your body was out, like, out of the truck, and you were steering at the same time, and it was, like, looked super dangerous.
I reached over, grabbed your wrist, and I pulled you into the truck, and then you grabbed the wheel, and then I said to you, you know, we're on the journey, but we're still...
No, you said to me, we're on the journey, but we still have a long ways to go.
And it was like driving through really dangerous, dicey times, like road conditions.
And it was...
alex jones
Well, I think the meaning of that dream is we have to come together and help each other.
dan friesen
I think Alex was eating.
Otherwise, there's no reason why you should let that guy go on like that.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
And then I grabbed your arm and...
Oh, man, I can't believe we've reached the point where Aim for Wars has become tell me your dreams.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's real bad.
dan friesen
Tell me the dreams you've had about me.
jordan holmes
I don't like hearing about the dreams of my closest friends, let alone a stranger calling into a show.
dan friesen
I'm thinking this is prophetic.
jordan holmes
This is great.
dan friesen
What's the prophecy?
unidentified
You would pull Alex into a truck?
jordan holmes
No idea.
When you only saw two hands, that's when I was carrying you.
dan friesen
So Alex thinks that this means that we all need to come together.
I don't know if I agree with him.
Here is what that guy has to say about his own dream.
unidentified
I'll tell you what was going through me.
This has been my life's work.
There's a kryptonite that can defeat the globalists.
And it was done 2,000 years ago with the cross to Christ.
And what the world is really experiencing now is the beginning birth pains of a spiritual reboot of the revelation of Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
At this point, I was really worried that he was going to say, Alex, you need to be crucified.
I was really, really worried that that was where this guy was going.
jordan holmes
I'm waiting for him to break out into ultralight beam.
That sounds great.
unidentified
He really is.
And all the perversion, all the twisted religious stuff is going to fall off.
And we're just going to see Christ.
I just want to declare out to the audience today, God loves you, and every single time you've missed the mark, that's what sin means, He dealt with at the cross of Christ.
He cut a covenant with His Father who no human being was involved with.
And because of love, because we are loved, He made a way.
He is the door through this and into the real world.
alex jones
God bless you, brother.
Fourth hour coming up.
More calls straight ahead.
unidentified
House flies defecate every four to five minutes.
dan friesen
He got cut off by the break there.
I don't think Alex is doing good time management during that call.
jordan holmes
That guy just defecated on the phone for four or five minutes.
dan friesen
Honestly, this show is so boring for the most part.
Just constant repetition, drum beat, drum beat.
These are evil.
These people are evil.
They want your kids.
They're gonna kill you.
Evil.
All this.
Just over and over and over again.
And then, insanely over-the-top extreme religion and march towards violence.
Those are the three things that you've got going on on the regular, on Infowars.
And these days are pretty...
These last couple days have been pretty much just that.
And it's...
It's not that interesting when Alex isn't talking about how the planets aligned and he got high on a boat.
Or whatever.
Him believing that the planets aligned is one thing that's funny.
And then him thinking that it had some kind of a mystical thing response to him is fun, but the rest of this is not good.
jordan holmes
I'm going to pitch you something.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Wizard.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
Tim Fruget might be a wizard.
jordan holmes
End pitch.
dan friesen
Okay.
So Alex gets another call.
And this guy asks Alex a question that I think he probably thought Alex could answer, but cannot.
jordan holmes
What's your name?
dan friesen
No, it is a question about...
You remember this.
We talked about it on the show.
Alex claimed that there is a council of 12. Oh, yes.
And he's identified a few of them.
Love a council of 12. Bill Gates is on there.
unidentified
One.
dan friesen
And so this guy is like, hey, you mentioned that a while back.
Who else is on that?
unidentified
I wanted to ask you something.
You made a really interesting comment on one of your shows a month or two ago while Bill Gates being on a council of 12 that essentially pulled the strings, right?
You said he was a science person.
alex jones
Yeah, no, it really is a council of...
jordan holmes
Alex, hang up on him.
alex jones
It rotates.
It's unofficial, but it's a council of less than 15 people.
unidentified
It's unofficial!
Get out!
alex jones
Say that again?
unidentified
Are you able to name any of the other people on the council, or is this something you can't do right now?
alex jones
No, I mean, I know from research that Bill Gates is one of the top people.
A lot of people rotate in and out.
I know David Rockefeller was the number two on it for a while.
I can tell you that there's two Rothschilds on it, from what I've been told.
One of them is Edward Rothschild.
unidentified
Overrepresented.
alex jones
Another is Lord Jacob Rothschild.
And there's some Europe.
I mean, it's all just a bunch of old European royal bloodlines and other elitists, and it's pretty disgusting.
dan friesen
Alex only knows the name of two Rothschilds.
That's why there are two.
jordan holmes
There are two Rothschilds on the group.
dan friesen
David Rockefeller died in 2017.
jordan holmes
He's still on there, though.
unidentified
Number two.
jordan holmes
His ghost is.
unidentified
It's unofficial.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, this really interesting thing that you clearly made up.
Can you say more about it?
Hey, it's a bunch of Europeans.
jordan holmes
That is the...
He's got called on in class and he was like, ooh, I do not know how addition works.
dan friesen
Right, but this is conceivably the 12 people who rule humanity.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's not a small deal.
jordan holmes
It's unofficial.
dan friesen
They rotate in and out.
jordan holmes
They rotate in and out.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if it's a council of 12 people who rule all of humanity, it seems like someone would very willingly give up a seat on that council.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Just rotate in and out, man.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
No, absolutely.
There has always been a...
Here's how it works.
Here's how it works.
dan friesen
I'd love to.
jordan holmes
I've thought this through.
dan friesen
Okay.
Have you done deep research?
jordan holmes
I have not done deep research.
dan friesen
Just say you have.
jordan holmes
This is entirely made up.
dan friesen
Just say you have.
jordan holmes
This is an excerpt from my book.
dan friesen
That's based on deep research.
jordan holmes
That's based on deep research.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
That I've struggled with for years now.
Here's what happens.
Every civilization has a council of 12. Sure.
And then the council of 12s, when the civilizations meet, they have to fight each other to the death.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And whatever 12 are left over of the 24 become the new 12. Okay.
It's unofficial.
It rotates around because they're always killing each other.
But now that all civilizations have met each other, there's only one council of 12, Dan.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Until we meet aliens.
Exactly.
dan friesen
Twelve raptors.
jordan holmes
Twelve raptors.
dan friesen
And that will happen when all twelve planets align.
unidentified
Exactly!
jordan holmes
Planet XII is the one nobody saw coming!
dan friesen
Yeah, so I would say that of the things that Alex really needs to have concrete answers for, it's the imaginary group of twelve people he's claimed to run the planet and he's talked about openly on his show.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And he has no fucking answers for.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
I know there's two rock towns on it, and it's a bunch of Europeans.
jordan holmes
Just saying it's unofficial can fuck off.
Get out of here.
dan friesen
Maybe it's not 12, it's under 15. You just mean rich people.
Yeah, more or less.
So we have one last clip, and it's Alex complaining about Joe Biden.
I told you, a little bit of Biden.
jordan holmes
I got a little Biden in there.
dan friesen
Play us a clip of Joe Biden here.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I want you to pay really close attention to what Joe Biden's saying.
Because based on everything I know of Alex's career and the person that he presents himself to be, he should not disagree with anything Joe Biden says.
alex jones
All right, this video just went live on Infowars.com.
It's on a hot mic.
It's Tim on NowThis.
Horrible, loveless organization.
They've lied about us massively.
He says the police have become the enemy.
But don't worry, he'll take them over and then they'll be good again.
He also came up with a plan to abolish the suburbs and rural areas.
jordan holmes
Got him.
alex jones
Calling single-family homes racist.
I'm not kidding.
The family's bad.
That's Black Lives Matter.
Don't have a nuclear family.
That'll be so good for black people.
So good for anybody.
So horrible.
Here is Biden.
joe biden
Get all the records and find out what they're doing.
That's why we're able to stop the stop-and-frisk in Camden, the stop-and-frisk in New York City and the rest, where the federal government has the right to go in and change systemically what's going on.
There's a whole range of things that we can do.
The idea of no-knock warrants for drug cases is bizarre.
We don't need that.
It just invites trouble.
That's how Breonna was killed.
There's a need for fundamental change in us being able to have transparency, be able to have access to the records of police when they have misconduct charges against them, to be able to know where they are so they can't go from one police department to the next.
That should be held in my administration.
That information will have to be made available to the Justice Department and held in a file so you'll be able to track this.
Surplus military equipment for law enforcement.
They don't need that.
The last thing you need is an up-armored Humvee coming into a neighborhood that's like the military invading.
They don't know anybody.
They become the enemy.
They're supposed to be protecting these people.
alex jones
Hell, they probably don't need body armor either.
dan friesen
Alex, based on everything in Alex's career, yes, you should not have no-knock warrants for drug offenses.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And how negative and toxic that is.
Alex should 100% be on board with that.
The only thing that I think he could take a nuanced position on is whether or not the federal government should keep the records of the malfeasance.
jordan holmes
That would be interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, the complaints and abuse charges against cops.
Alex could say, no, the state should keep that as opposed to the Department of Justice.
But that's the only place that there should be any disagreement because Alex does believe or has believed throughout the lion's share of his career that the police do need to be reined in.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
So now Alex is fully transformed into hearing positions he himself would have said.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
No-knock warrants for drug shit is unacceptable.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Get rid of these tanks.
That are coming into neighborhoods.
That's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Really shouldn't happen.
dan friesen
Those are things that would be right at home on the Alex Jones show in the past, and now he's like, this is evil globalism.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yes, those very much non-controversial, hey, I don't think Officer Darren should have a fucking tank.
dan friesen
So now Alex is a guess in favor of militarized police.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
No knock warrants.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
unidentified
Love him.
jordan holmes
Kick down everybody's door.
dan friesen
What is he saying?
jordan holmes
He's saying that if there is an administration that he doesn't like, he hopes that they have the power to, at any point in time...
Decide that gun laws should be enacted and then with a no-knock warrant kick down his home and break in and kill him.
That is what he would like.
dan friesen
This is so weird to me because what he's falling into, the trap that he's falling into or whatever, is just oppositional defiance.
He's mad at this guy who he doesn't like.
He's the side he's not supposed to be with.
But the side is saying the things that are supposed to line up with his beliefs.
So now he's against his own beliefs because they're being said by the other side.
I have no interest in Trump.
I think he sucks.
I think he's the worst.
Now, if he were to come out and say people should be freed who have drug convictions, I would say you are right.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Still go fuck yourself, but you are right about this.
jordan holmes
I hope you accidentally walk into a fire, but I'll give it...
Yeah, let's do this one.
Let's do this one.
dan friesen
It wouldn't...
Like, I hate him being in office, but that doesn't override...
My belief that people who, let's say, have drug charges should be released from prison.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I don't understand how Alex can't have the presence of mind to be like, I fucking hate Joe Biden.
He sucks.
I don't want him to win.
But yeah, absolutely.
No-knock warrants are ridiculous.
There's no reasonable argument for why we should be doing that for suspected drug violations.
That's ridiculous.
The police are out of control.
I don't agree with Biden.
I hope he loses embarrassingly in the next election.
But yes, police don't need tanks.
How can he not get to that point?
How is he so far gone that nothing is real other than...
jordan holmes
Personally, I think it is due in large part probably to Mitch McConnell.
That transformation really of the entire Republican Party from even any semblance of ideas or governance to just win.
We just want to win.
That's all we want.
I don't care what policies we enact as long as they're horrible and awful.
We'll fuck everything up as long as we win.
dan friesen
It's interesting because Alex thinks he doesn't like McConnell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, he loves McConnell.
Of course he loves McConnell.
dan friesen
He thinks he hates him.
jordan holmes
Well, he thinks he hates him because McConnell is fucking good at cheating.
Like, I don't know what to tell you.
dan friesen
I think it's because he predates the Tea Party stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's possible.
dan friesen
Or at least he's not one-to-one associated with it like some of these other...
jordan holmes
Yeah, because it doesn't matter about any kind of policy or anything.
It's just, I can't give Biden a win.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because to him, it seems like...
dan friesen
But it's not a win.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
If you say you agree with Biden, that means he won.
unidentified
It's not a win.
jordan holmes
That means he beat Trump.
That's what you're saying.
You're saying that I agree with Biden over Trump.
That means Biden won.
Cannot do it.
Cannot give Biden one win.
dan friesen
You might be right in that that's the thinking, but I'm getting a little overwhelmed by the prospect of that, just because...
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's really fucked up, isn't it?
dan friesen
Well, it's got to be tough.
jordan holmes
Doesn't seem to bother him.
Except for, you know, his entire crumbling psyche.
Yeah.
dan friesen
He thought he had a fucking transcendent experience on a boat because the planet's aligned.
He's falling apart.
jordan holmes
That is why you don't like Trump.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
It's really strange to me.
I mean, one of the things that I think we've tracked a ton, you know, just scattershot as it comes up, is all of these just complete rejection of his past things that seemed like the most important things to him.
And that's so strange to me, like how easy it is for him to spend...
20 years making a career that is based on fears of the police state, fears of over-militarization of police, yelling about things like Jade Helm and all this stuff, and then allow yourself to critique Joe Biden like this about him saying things that you agree with, or you're supposed to agree with.
It's a depressing portrait of somebody who...
Who's just not tethered to anything.
Or maybe was, but isn't anymore.
It doesn't seem like anything except guns, racism, and extremist religion really means anything to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because even his anti-police stuff predates Obama, so it's not just as simple as there's a black man in the White House.
dan friesen
No, I mean, it probably got worse then.
jordan holmes
I mean, I imagine now it's as simple as there's black people in the streets.
That doesn't seem hard for him to make that jump.
dan friesen
That definitely seems like a piece of it.
Yeah, I mean, the police state stuff does go back to, like, 9-11 and shit.
Yeah, it's not totally related to Obama.
I don't know.
I don't know if we have a concrete answer on this, but I will say it's a bummer.
But it wouldn't be a huge bummer if his show's a little bit more interesting.
I'm really kind of...
I'm disappointed in him this week, but it makes sense.
I mean, in some ways, it makes a whole lot of sense based on how depressed he was at the end of last week.
So it makes sense that this week would be kind of like a real...
Do-nothing kind of period of time.
And he's still recovering from planets aligning.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
That'll knock you off, of course.
dan friesen
You gotta give him a little bit of...
jordan holmes
Because gravity will...
And you point to the star that's...
dan friesen
So I give a grain of salt a little leeway.
But I expect him on his best behavior next week.
And actually...
Interesting me a little bit.
And I think it will be because Roger Stone's got to go to prison soon.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
And I do think that will lead to some really good content on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
We'll see.
dan friesen
Because no matter what happens, it'll be intense.
If Trump pardons him, it'll be intense.
If he doesn't, it'll be intense in the other direction.
jordan holmes
I'm seeing, I'm hoping that day before prison, we get John Turturro level Roger Stone of just like...
Look into your hearts!
Just let me get a parted!
You know, like that whole thing.
I want it.
dan friesen
There's so many possibilities for good entertainment.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not only your suggestion, but also mine still should be in play.
jordan holmes
Needs to be a supervillain.
dan friesen
The Dirty Dozen needs to come together.
unidentified
100%.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Roger, I know you're listening.
I don't know you're listening, but if you are listening, come on.
jordan holmes
Go for it.
Dirty Dozen.
unidentified
Dirty Dozen.
jordan holmes
Get it!
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
And I go to bet Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And we would like to download, leave a review to iTunes.
And if you would like, please donate to a local charity in your area or bail fund.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be very helpful.
dan friesen
For sure.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I've inspired all the other Foo Fighter songs.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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