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June 15, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#445: June 12, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss how last week ended on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex is convinced that a coup was announced on The Daily Show, reveals that he doesn't know anything about the Lincoln assassination, and Dan imagines what Alex's conversation with the Secret Service was like.

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alex jones
08:56
d
dan friesen
41:55
j
jordan holmes
16:59
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steve pieczenik
01:01
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lee stranahan
00:30
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan, quick question.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Talenti for gelato.
Gelato?
jordan holmes
Gelato's great.
dan friesen
I decided to treat myself with a little ice cream thing.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
I got the caramel truffle one.
jordan holmes
Oh, those are good.
dan friesen
And I almost broke my hand opening it.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
I know that's a hackneyed observation to make, but those fucking jars need to do something about that.
That is unacceptable.
jordan holmes
It's a health hazard.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
The jar?
I think it is.
I've lost skin on my hand.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
I'm trying to open those.
jordan holmes
The worst.
Run it under a little warm water first.
dan friesen
No, it's not going to help.
It's not going to help.
But they're good.
They're damn good.
I worry about them being that good because I'm not paying that much for ice cream on the regular.
But it's good.
It's a nice little every now and again treat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
dan friesen
We're recording this before the move in anticipation.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so like this high stresses of the move required a fair amount of self-medicating with ice cream.
jordan holmes
With ice cream, yes.
Yeah, that's a smart move.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's a bright spot.
jordan holmes
How about you?
Classic slapstick comedy.
Dan, that is my bright spot today.
My partner and I, we made pancakes and bacon and eggs last night for dinner.
Classic breakfast for dinner situation.
Went to get some eggs.
We were out of eggs.
Went to get some eggs.
Went into the store.
Bought some eggs.
Brought them out.
We were walking our dogs at the time.
My partner was like, hey, no, let me carry those eggs for you.
I'm about to hand them to her.
She grabs, puts one hand into the thing.
Drops the eggs right on the ground, immediately trying to be as helpful as possible.
Twelve eggs, gone.
dan friesen
That is not slapstick comedy.
jordan holmes
Slapstick comedy.
Classic slapstick comedy.
dan friesen
That's dropping eggs.
jordan holmes
Classic slapstick comedy.
dan friesen
Did she do a soft chew afterwards?
jordan holmes
No, no, she did not.
dan friesen
I don't think that that's comedy.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I think you can laugh at it.
jordan holmes
There was a conversation in the pre that involved like, ah, drop an egg.
We got to take care of it.
And then she did drop the eggs.
It was very, very simple and direct.
dan friesen
All right.
Well, I'll call it comedy.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we got an interesting episode to go over.
We are talking about June 12th, 2020.
This is 2020.
It's Friday of last week.
And part of the reason for it is that because we have to record this.
As you're listening to this, I'm still in the process of getting all set up at the new apartment and everything.
And so we wanted to not leave you too high and dry.
jordan holmes
Just wanted to say hello to the future.
We're all glad that Martin Luther King Jr.'s granddaughter is the president now.
dan friesen
Time travelers were correct.
jordan holmes
Time travelers were correct, 100%.
dan friesen
I mostly bring this up just in case any of the things we say sound entirely dated.
The world changes within the next three years.
jordan holmes
Oh man, what are these guys still doing talking about the United States of America?
That shit is way old.
dan friesen
Cut us some slack if aliens show up on Monday or something.
We're in the past.
We don't know that stuff.
So we got an interesting load of bullshit to go over.
But before we do that, let's give some shout-outs to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
unidentified
Love it.
dan friesen
So first, Daniel.
Great name.
Last initial M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Daniel.
dan friesen
Next, Ryan L. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Ryan.
dan friesen
Next, Billy.
B-I-L-L-I-E.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Billy.
dan friesen
Thank you, Billy.
Next, Max G. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Max G. Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Mo.
M-O, no last name.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Mo.
dan friesen
Thanks, Mo.
Next, Cody O. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Cody.
dan friesen
Thank you, Cody.
Next, Jay Matsby.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Ah, the great Jay Matsby.
dan friesen
Yeah, all one word.
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first, Basil S., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Kelly, no last name.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare.
Infowar on you!
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Basil, and thank you so much, Kelly.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I like what these gents do, I'd like to support it, you can do that by going to our website, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate that, or if you'd like to, you can fold...
Up that generosity into the form of a swan.
jordan holmes
Land it.
dan friesen
And make some origami that you deliver to a local charity in your area that's helping people in need.
That would also be wonderful.
jordan holmes
That's a great landing.
dan friesen
I'm not good at that.
But maybe there's something good about how bad I am at it.
jordan holmes
That could be.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Classic slapstick comedy.
dan friesen
Classic.
So Jordan, on our last episode from Monday, we discussed how Alex was going hard on this new video that this woman had put out where she was accusing doctors of killing people in hospitals.
jordan holmes
Totally not suspicious at all.
dan friesen
It was over the top.
That was on Alex's Thursday show on June 11th.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This does not come back up on the 12th.
jordan holmes
It doesn't come back up at all.
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
It doesn't come back.
jordan holmes
It doesn't come back up at all.
dan friesen
It seemed on Thursday to be like the most important thing.
jordan holmes
That was the narrative.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's not really involved at all on this episode.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
So Alex is on another tip.
Okay.
jordan holmes
The movie over the top.
dan friesen
Nope, it is not.
It is that Biden has announced the coup.
alex jones
And so they're making their big move.
The headlines on Infowars.com.
Joe Biden says the U.S. military may engage in a coup against the president.
That's really what they're saying.
They're saying if there's a contested election and Trump contested...
jordan holmes
Is that what they were saying?
alex jones
...that the military will grab the president.
And they're just introducing that idea to you now because that's how you fight a military state is with the military grabbing the president.
unidentified
Total...
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
...of reality.
dan friesen
So this is something that came from an interview that Biden did on The Daily Show, where he said that he was pretty convinced that Trump would refuse to leave if he lost the election.
Biden said that he was convinced that the military would recognize that that was a huge problem if Trump lost the election and refused to leave office and would escort him out of the White House.
He's not saying that there's going to be a military coup, just that in the event that Trump doesn't recognize the result of an election he lost, Biden has faith that it would be handled appropriately.
I'm not as full of faith, but I don't think that Biden's position is that outlandish either.
I still think there's a decent chance that worrying about Trump not stepping down if he loses is a little premature.
There are plenty of circumstantial reasons to be concerned about that, and I've come a lot closer to worrying about it myself, but it just seems like such an explicit and unretractable move that I have a hard time imagining someone doing it.
Not respecting the result of an election is something that couldn't be walked back or undone.
It would necessitate a very severe reaction, whether it Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's a possibility, but obsessing and thinking that is what's going to happen.
Part of the reason that I think this is that in 2015, Alex and all his Ding Dong followers were convinced that Obama was going to call off the election and install himself as the king of a new Islamic caliphate of America.
It looked silly to us because obviously it was, but it felt real to them at the time.
And I know that Trump has given...
Far more reasons to suspect that that's the way he would behave.
jordan holmes
I would say at least three.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There's an attack on voting rights that's been going on, an attack on the prospect of mail-in voting.
jordan holmes
There's that.
dan friesen
You know, there is a ton of...
jordan holmes
A complete inability to recognize the legitimacy of any of his political opponents.
dan friesen
Sure.
I'm 100% on board that there is circumstantial reason to be like, let's think about this a little bit.
But I just don't want to fall into the same trap as Alex and his buddies.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, the thing about that is, if that were to occur, no one has any idea what would happen beyond all hell would break loose.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And there's really no point in planning for all hell would break loose.
Because what the fuck do you...
What's the plan?
dan friesen
Well, on an individual level, I think you can think about what your plan might be.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
That might be a good plan.
unidentified
Yeah.
I don't know.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip.
Alex discusses how, you know, everybody's got to get the word out about Biden and his plan.
alex jones
The power of you, the audience of activists, being active and realizing this is an information war and taking the live feed of this show from Man.Video or NewsWars.com forward slash show and sending it out to your email, sending it out to your text message, calling people physically and saying, They admit the coup plot.
That means they're getting ready to go live.
They have to get their people to hear that to believe it's legitimate.
Two years ago, I briefed the Secret Service on their plan to remove the president.
They didn't even know that globalists were on TV saying they were going to kill the president, like Phil Mudd of the CIA, to prepare the deep state to believe they can actually make the move.
You have to telegraph the announcement to create false confidence.
dan friesen
I think Alex just debunked himself in that clip.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure, yeah.
dan friesen
He's trying to argue that Biden going on The Daily Show and saying that if Trump loses and doesn't leave office, he believes that the military will escort him out of the White House.
Alex says that him saying that is the equivalent of globalists coming out and announcing their coup plot.
They gotta go on TV and make these announcements to ready the crew.
To reinforce this argument, Alex brings up how he briefed the Secret Service about a Phil Mudd interview on CNN that he believed to be the same thing.
The announcement of a coup plot to kill Trump.
Here are the two problems with this.
One, that Phil Mudd interview is three years old, and at press time, no plots to kill Trump have been launched.
That doesn't seem like it was the announcing of a plot at all, mostly because there was no plot and nothing happened.
The second problem is that Alex talked to the Secret Service about this Phil Mudd interview, and they did nothing about it, which clearly indicates that the Secret Service did not think that this was anything serious, and it was really just a guy talking shit on TV.
You would think if there was an actual instance of Phil Mudd announcing a coup on TV and Alex briefed the Secret Service about it, Mudd should have had some consequences.
jordan holmes
Wow, you would think.
dan friesen
I would bet anything that I own that as soon as Alex left that meeting with the Secret Service, they all lost their shit laughing at him.
jordan holmes
I would assume at least one jerk-off motion was made.
dan friesen
Right.
I decided that I was kind of bored with Alex and I wanted to spread my wings creatively a little bit.
So Jordan, what I've decided to do is take this occasion to write a script of what I imagined that that...
Okay.
That briefing, in front of you, there is a script.
jordan holmes
There is a script.
dan friesen
And I apologize in advance for my terrible handwriting.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Your lines are highlighted.
jordan holmes
Are highlighted.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
You will be playing the role of Secret Service agent.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And I will be the role I was born to play, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So, scene.
Interior.
Old school interrogation room, lit by a single overhead light, shot in black and white.
Sloppy man with a thick neck sits at a table sweating, holding a candy cigarette and a cup of cocoa he's pretending is coffee.
jordan holmes
I understand that you have information about a plot against the president.
dan friesen
You bet I do.
This thing goes all the way to the top.
I'm talking Rothschilds, Bill Gates, Ofra Winfrey, you name it.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay, okay.
Why don't you just start at the beginning?
dan friesen
You ever watch CNN?
jordan holmes
Oh, sure.
dan friesen
You know Anderson Cooper?
That guy's the last living Vanderbilt.
jordan holmes
That's not true.
dan friesen
And secretly, he's working for the CIA and he helped cover up Sandy Hook, but my lawyer...
Told me that I should pretend not to believe that last part anymore.
jordan holmes
So Anderson Cooper threatened Donald Trump.
dan friesen
Not directly, but you know who you should really take a look at over at CNN?
That guy Brian Stelter.
He looks like a demonic pedophile.
jordan holmes
Honestly, that seems unfair, sir.
alex jones
I mean, look.
dan friesen
Look at the way he smiles.
It's full of hubris.
Here, look.
I brought a picture of him.
Alex hands the agent an 8x10 glossy of Stelter, then attempts to light his candy cigarette.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
Brian Stelter threatened Trump.
dan friesen
Just look at him, those eyes.
They're evil, I tell you.
He wants your kids, and the only way we can defeat him is by supporting the info war.
And look, I know I said that the Easter special was going to end today, but we've got to extend it until Tuesday.
jordan holmes
Mr. Jones!
dan friesen
Sorry, sorry.
Slipped into a plug there.
I have this rare neurological condition called semi-voluntary spontaneous advertisement syndrome.
jordan holmes
That is not a real thing.
dan friesen
It absolutely is.
And I have three chiropractors who pretend to be doctors who I've paid to tell me it's real.
They've all prescribed me iodine to manage the condition based on redacted studies from the University of Helderado.
The science is good, but the globalists force the researchers to retract or else they would reveal the location of the Golden City.
jordan holmes
Okay, so what does this have to...
Did the Golden City threaten the president?
dan friesen
I actually know where the Golden City is from my years of studying the globalist white papers.
It's under Mount Rushmore.
jordan holmes
Mr. Jones, I think you're thinking of the plot of National Treasure Book of Secrets?
dan friesen
Predictive programming!
jordan holmes
Alright, I'm going to have to ask you to focus, sir.
Now, we called you in because you claim to have information about a credible threat.
Credible.
Against President Trump.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
So, on CNN, this guy Phil Mudd, he said government was going to kill Trump.
jordan holmes
Are you sure that he wasn't saying that the difficulty of governing was going to kill Trump?
Not that a vague entity called the government was going to literally kill him?
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
This was a direct threat.
unidentified
Mudd was sending out the alarm, rising the army of demonic globalist minions to heed the call.
jordan holmes
Okay, if the government is going to kill Trump...
How does an army of demonic globalist minions factor in?
dan friesen
These are demonic globalist minions who work in the government.
jordan holmes
Like at the DMV?
dan friesen
The DMV is lousy with globalists.
jordan holmes
I think I see.
Thank you very much for your time.
dan friesen
One more thing while I'm here before I leave.
Can you get Bill Gates to stop wearing pink sweaters?
It really pisses me off.
jordan holmes
Get out of my office.
dan friesen
And scene.
jordan holmes
Beautiful.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Beautiful.
dan friesen
It's been a while since I wrote a sketch.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright.
dan friesen
What really happened, I'm going to walk you through the creative process.
jordan holmes
Everybody wants to see you into your process.
Let's really get into the way that you make things.
dan friesen
I just had an image of Alex sitting under a light and it made me laugh.
unidentified
I was just thinking, what a hilarious that would be.
dan friesen
I know of a plot to kill the president.
jordan holmes
See, I imagine even in this scenario, He still has to wear handcuffs.
He's not convicted.
He's not accused of any crime.
But they're like, okay, if you're going to tell us about a plot to kill the president, we need you in handcuffs.
dan friesen
And one of those Hannibal Lecter masks.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So Alex talks a bit about Phil Mudd on this episode.
I think Alex is getting into dicey territory here.
alex jones
And when Mudd went on TV and said, we will kill this guy.
The CIA will kill this guy.
The government's going to kill this guy.
That was done to telegraph confidence to their networks embedded in the government that they were trying to get other people to create false whistleblower reports, fake information to the media, and to then finally get somebody else to muster up the courage to poison the president, to shoot the president, to kill the president.
That's what this is, is agitating.
dan friesen
Alex won't use the term because he's mocked the idea when people have talked about him doing it, but what he's trying to say is that he believes that Phil Mudd is engaging in stochastic terrorism.
Mudd went on TV and said that the government was going to kill Trump, hoping that someone would hear that message and take it as a sign that they should do it themselves.
That's what Alex is saying.
This is really murky territory for Alex, and honestly, I think it's the last thing he should be introducing as something he's accusing his enemies of.
The problem is that he does this all the time.
He constantly talks about how his enemies should be killed and how they're all going to burn in hell, far more graphically and explicitly than anything Phil Mudd said.
If Alex is directly asserting that Phil Mudd's comments on TV are legally actionable to the point where he met with the Secret Service about them because he was, you know, Mudd was hoping someone was inspired to attack Trump because of his comments, then Alex is asserting that he himself belongs in prison.
jordan holmes
Okay, so you're saying that he's accusing somebody of a crime that he regularly commits.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Generally, when Alex talks about this stuff, he says that Mudd's comments were part of the lesser magic stuff, where the globalists have to announce what they're doing before they do it in order to get magical power out of their rituals.
That's stupid, but at least it's not self-damning.
This angle where Mudd was trying to inspire lone actors to carry out his goals is a really bad direction for Alex to go down, since it heavily implicates his own behavior.
I would have advised it again.
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, the only thing that saves him is I don't think I've ever heard him not buy his own bullshit as immediately as he was saying it.
Like, as he was speaking, he was like, you don't believe a goddamn word of this, you idiot.
You know it and I know it.
Stop it.
dan friesen
So I'm going to skip this next clip because it's pointless.
It's just Alex saying that his wife found a nail salon that had a no Christian sign on it.
unidentified
Oh, good.
dan friesen
I can find no stories about this.
jordan holmes
I don't want any Christians in my nail salon.
dan friesen
I can find no stories about this, and I have no idea what he's talking about.
So anyway, we get to another one of the big things.
So there's the coup on Trump that Biden announced on The Daily Show.
jordan holmes
Yes, which is where you announce a coup.
dan friesen
There's that narrative.
jordan holmes
You got to have Trevor Noah giving you the sign off before you coup.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He gives you the round third.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he gives you the, keep on going.
dan friesen
That's a big narrative.
And then another one that he's got going is that Biden, not Biden, Bolton, John Bolton has his book coming out.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so Alex is not happy about this.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
We have Bolton coming out with his new book claiming impeachable offenses across full range of Trump foreign policy.
Well, the impeachable offense would be being...
Stupid enough to bring in John Bolton, but see, they all lied to his face.
He's a Fox News watcher.
They told him they supported his policies, and Trump let in the Trojan horse.
dan friesen
That's so funny to hear Alex pretending that Trump just got suckered into hiring Bolton because he's a Fox News watcher and they gave him bad advice.
If that's true, then Infowars gave Trump bad advice too, because Alex supported the nomination of John Bolton.
alex jones
But the word is on Bolton.
He knows all the connections.
He knows all the players in the State Department, in the U.N., in the Pentagon, and that he will be an apparatchik or a tool, an effective munchkin, to use his words, to carry out the policies that the president wants carried out, and that he won't sit there and leak information.
dan friesen
That was from March 23rd, 2018, and the word on the street that Alex is talking about came from Roger Stone, who Alex directly says is a 30-year-long poker buddy with John Bolton.
So I guess that means Roger was giving Trump bad advice that convinced him to make a treasonous hire.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
Interesting.
To Steve Pachanik's credit, he was opposed to Bolton explicitly and consistently, but Alex did not listen to him.
Alex thought Roger was more important at the time, so he took Roger's angle that Bolton would be a tool that Trump could use against his shadow enemies.
All that didn't work out so great for everyone, and now Alex is trying to pretend that he was always on the right side of this one.
He was always against Bolton.
jordan holmes
Hated him from the jump.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Of course he did.
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Hated noted national hero John Bolton, who, when in a position of power to do something about those many impeachable offenses, was like, nah, go for it.
I'll write a book later.
dan friesen
Can I suggest that there's no harm?
In just saying, like, hey, look, I thought that this was going to go a different way.
Turned out it didn't.
What's the problem with him saying, yeah, I was led to believe that John Bolton would be someone who would be effective as an apparatchik, and it turns out the information that I got was wrong.
That's not how it turned up.
jordan holmes
Nope, he's psychic.
He knows everything.
dan friesen
There's an absolute inability to just be wrong.
jordan holmes
Psychic, knows everything.
Even when he's wrong, he's right.
Trump is always right.
Everybody fooled him, even though he knows everything and is the smartest person on the planet.
And God told him that he should hire John Bolton.
But even God is wrong sometimes, but not Alex.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
I don't...
It's got to be exhausting.
jordan holmes
It's children.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just children.
unidentified
So Alex is still also mad about old Phil Mudd.
dan friesen
He complains about him.
jordan holmes
I thought he was mad about empty dirt.
Ah, come on now.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Come on now.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
He complains about Phil Mudd a lot.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Phil Mudd, who's actually related to Dr. Mudd, the only other person convicted in the conspiracy to kill Lincoln.
He's actually related to the Virginia Dr. Mudd involved in killing another president.
dan friesen
Don't you hate thinking?
We touched on this a little bit before, but the only evidence I can find that Phil Mudd is related to Samuel Mudd is a 2014 tweet from Jake Tapper.
It might be true that they're related, or it might not be.
I don't know.
I'm not really that concerned.
There's a sex therapist named Wendy Friesen who I've heard of.
I'm not related to her.
There's a comedian named Don Friesen.
He's not a relative.
People have names.
It doesn't always mean anything.
And if I one day find out that I am related to Don Friesen, I assure you it won't change my life at all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and either way, I really don't think I would care.
Or what his great-grandfather did, or whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't think that has any effect on him.
dan friesen
I don't care what my great-grandfather did.
jordan holmes
I don't think you can genetically kill presidents.
You're not genetically predisposed to killing presidents.
dan friesen
Alex does think that you are your ancestors.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
So anyway, to Alex's larger point here, Samuel Mudd was not the only other person charged in the plot to assassinate Lincoln.
For instance, David Harreld was in the barn with John Wilkes Booth when he was cornered.
Harold surrendered, but Booth did not, eventually being shot by Boston Corbett, the subject of one of the best episodes of the Dalib.
Harold was convicted and sentenced to death by hanging, along with three co-conspirators.
This is kind of a big deal, because one of them was Mary Surratt, the first woman executed by the U.S. government.
Three other conspirators were sentenced to life in prison, and one got six years.
Dr. Mudd was pardoned a few years later, since it wasn't really clear if he was in on the plot, or may have just been the doctor who Booth knew, who treated someone who was in distress, who showed up at his house, being unaware of what had just happened.
It's not like there was Twitter in 1865.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is supposed to be this big history buff, but here he is clearly demonstrating that he has absolutely zero awareness of the details of one of the biggest events Well, I mean...
jordan holmes
What are you paying attention to women in history for, Dan?
dan friesen
Fine, David and Harold.
jordan holmes
Well, what's a guy with a name like Harold doing there?
Come on, man.
It's just Phil Mudd.
dan friesen
Those two things cannot be simultaneously true.
No, of course not.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
If you're an InfoWars listener and you think Alex knows what he's talking about, you have to ask yourself, how could he fuck up something that seriously and that casually?
How can he assert a historical claim that's absolutely and easily falsifiable and then just move on with it?
Like, the fact that Alex is so comfortable fabricating information about history, like that Mudd was the only other person convicted in the Lincoln assassination, that should be a serious red flag!
If Alex is capable of that kind of lie...
What else is he asserting as definitive fact that he's just making up?
jordan holmes
A lot of Thomas Jefferson quotes.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, it's almost everything he talks about.
jordan holmes
Pretty much.
dan friesen
Also, Dr. Mudd wasn't from Virginia, he's from Maryland.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
I mean, back then, what was the difference?
Really?
dan friesen
Different states?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, in the 1860s, though.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
What even was a state?
dan friesen
What the fuck is wrong with this dude?
jordan holmes
You don't know.
I don't know.
dan friesen
You could just say Samuel Mudd was mixed up in the Lincoln assassination.
jordan holmes
He has a serious psychosis.
dan friesen
You don't have to make a false claim.
jordan holmes
No, it is a legitimate pathology.
dan friesen
It was legitimately just John Wilkes Booth and Samuel Mudd.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why would it just be those two?
Why?
dan friesen
Granted, there was another guy who was along with John Wilkes Booth, but he wasn't involved.
jordan holmes
No, they didn't convict him of anything.
dan friesen
There was the guy who tried to kill the vice president, but he wasn't involved.
jordan holmes
You don't need to worry about the vice president.
That's not even a crime these days.
Come on, Dan.
Everybody knows you get one vice president.
Everybody gets one.
dan friesen
So stupid.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Now, this next clip is just good, clean fuck.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I'll just get right to it.
At about...
8.30 this morning.
I felt a psychic explosion burst.
And I've learned to never doubt these.
Something really good happened at 8.30 Central this morning.
Damn.
With some devastating victory.
I'm not sure what happened.
We're going to find out.
I think you're going to later learn.
Mark this date.
You see the enemy launch and everything it's got today.
jordan holmes
Oh, fire!
Fire!
alex jones
Bolton!
That's because Hitler's in the damn Reich bunker right now.
That's the New World Order, not Trump.
I'd never felt energy this strong or this pure.
For like 30 minutes, I was basically...
It was unbelievable.
Something really good happened.
dan friesen
So at 8.30 on Friday, something amazing happened and Alex had a psychic explosion.
jordan holmes
Get him into a home!
Get him help!
dan friesen
What is that?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What is that?
dan friesen
I think it's made up.
jordan holmes
What just happened?
dan friesen
I think he's just making stuff up.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Either way, he needs to be in a home.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's weird.
But then the other thing that I think is really funny is now whenever Alex mentions Hitler in the bunker, he has to be like, that's not Trump.
jordan holmes
That's not Trump.
Trump was in the bunker, but he's not Hitler in the bunker.
It's a different thing.
I know they look similar.
He was just going for an inspection.
He was just looking at it.
He was just looking at it.
dan friesen
Yep.
I do like that.
That he is so self-conscious.
He has to, yeah.
For years, he's been fine talking about Hitler and the bunker, but now he can't do it.
God, that's so sad.
jordan holmes
That's so sad.
dan friesen
That's awesome.
jordan holmes
Trump has made all of these people look as pathetic as they always have been.
dan friesen
It's such a bad time for them.
jordan holmes
It's so sad.
God, poor Lindsey Graham.
dan friesen
Back to complaining about John Bolton here, and Alex takes a swing, and he whiffs.
alex jones
Trump has done incredibly good things.
Nice.
Pachinik flipped out on air, and he's got a lot of great sources.
But we know Bolton is a nasty little turd blossom.
dan friesen
So here's another example of Alex having...
jordan holmes
I agree with that.
dan friesen
No, you don't.
jordan holmes
Oh no, that he's a nasty turd blossom.
dan friesen
No, you don't agree with that.
You're showcasing the exact same ignorance that Alex does.
He doesn't understand the words and what they mean.
He thinks that saying turd blossom here is an insult because the word turd is in it.
But there's a very specific term being used in a very specific history.
Turd Blossom was a nickname that George W. Bush affectionately gave to Karl Rove because of his masterful ability to take a piece of shit and bring a flower out of it, metaphorically.
Turd Blossom is also, it's not an insult.
It's a term that really only has the connotation of admiration, particularly in the realm of politics.
It's also the term for a flower that grows from manure, but that too isn't a good basis for an insult.
I get that Alex wants to compare Bolton to shit, but the flower is the contradiction of the shit, not its extension.
A turd blossom is something that's beautiful growing out of something shitty.
Alex just heard the term and assumes that it's something pejorative, much like you did, because it involves poop.
But, in proper context, calling Bolton a turd blossom is complimenting him.
Alex almost never knows what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but the modifier nasty kind of overtakes that.
dan friesen
I don't think it does.
jordan holmes
I understand you don't, but even if it is a flower that blooms out of a turd, if it's nasty, it's still a nasty flower.
dan friesen
In the realm of politics, that term only applies to George W. Bush talking affectionately about Karl Rove.
jordan holmes
Who is a nasty piece of shit?
dan friesen
From your perspective, but not from George W. Bush's.
jordan holmes
George W. Bush is a nasty piece of shit.
dan friesen
Right.
Then you could call him that.
You wouldn't call him a turd blossom.
jordan holmes
Of course I wouldn't.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's just a bad...
dan friesen
That's a compliment.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just not imaginative.
dan friesen
Whatever.
I disagree with your perspective.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
And I'm definitely right.
jordan holmes
You don't like modifiers.
dan friesen
So, on a recent episode, Alex accidentally did a satanic ritual with a skull, some roses, and a chessboard that he didn't realize had occult significance.
And he's had to change scenery a little bit.
jordan holmes
Of course he has.
dan friesen
And so now he has a new prop that he wants to try and get people's attention with.
alex jones
Also, if you're a TV viewer, you're probably asking, who is that a statue of?
dan friesen
Who's that guy?
alex jones
To my right.
Well, that is Robert E. Lee.
dan friesen
What a shock.
jordan holmes
Robert E. Lee?
dan friesen
That's right.
Robert E. Lee!
Alex has a Robert E. Lee statue hanging out.
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
What a strong message to send.
dan friesen
We've replaced the skull, roses, and chessboard with a statue of Robert E. Lee.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I was being too oblique.
Let me be more out front.
What I wanted to say with the flower, the skull, and the chessboard is Trump is a racist.
dan friesen
He wanted it to be deeply esoteric as opposed to this, which is A little blunt.
jordan holmes
It's very blunt.
It's very blunt.
dan friesen
So this turns into a thing where Alex, I don't think he's being defensive, but at the same time, he's trying to rationalize why he has a statue of Robert.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I can tell you in advance why he's doing it.
jordan holmes
Because he loves slaves.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
No, it's because people are tearing down statues.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's trying to get in on that act and trying to be like, hey.
Oh, you people who are mad at statues, look at me.
I have a statue.
Why don't you get mad at me and give me free press?
jordan holmes
Come take down this statue.
dan friesen
That's largely the strategy.
But Alex has a different rationalization for why Robert E. Lee is cool.
And I think it's bullshit.
alex jones
I mean, that's why people like Robert E. Lee.
I mean, soap operas have nothing on this.
The North loved Robert E. Lee.
There were articles by the thousands over the years and just everything because he fought armies on average.
Four to one, five to one, and one for three years.
jordan holmes
Buddy, the North loved racism, too.
alex jones
With no factories and no munitions and finally no shoes.
And so people respected that.
So, of course, they named battleships and aircraft carriers and military bases after Southern generals because...
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
In Russia and in Japan.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
unidentified
In the UK.
alex jones
You know who they study in military affairs?
Robert E. Lee, General Stonewall Jackson.
Because the Civil War is a very important time.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure.
Sure, buddy.
alex jones
And people love the underdog.
And the Civil War was not about slavery.
It was about Western expansion.
dan friesen
I can suggest a group of people who are even further an underdog, and that would be slaves.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, everybody loves an underdog unless the underdog is the person on the...
When you...
In chains?
Underdogs aren't chained?
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
I think generally speaking, in terms of the big picture, fighting without shoes is not why people love Robert E. Lee.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
I'm pretty sure.
And also, the Civil War is definitely about slavery.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
To prove the second point, I'd like to cite my unimpeachable source, one of the greatest historians who's ever lived, Alexander Emmerich Jones.
jordan holmes
I remember this part.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you've ever listened to our show or listened long enough, you'll notice that Alex has two different stories about the Civil War that he likes to trot out depending on what point he's trying to make.
Whenever there's a situation in the world where black people are rightly asserting their right to equal treatment and the conversation of the history of post-slavery America comes up, Alex tries to invalidate all of those arguments by saying that the Civil War was fought to free the slaves.
And, you know, when you really think about it, black people should thank white people for ending slavery.
jordan holmes
Well, white people did end slavery.
dan friesen
That's his argument in order to rebut those arguments.
However, when it comes to defending the Confederacy, whenever Alex needs to justify his absurd support of...
Confederate generals without sounding racist or trying not to sound racist, he's quick to point out that the Civil War wasn't about slavery.
He'll often say that it was about states' rights or the economy, both of which are just code words that people use to deny that the Confederacy seceded over slavery.
Sure, it was states' rights, but the particular right of the state that was in question was slavery.
jordan holmes
They even put it in their whole little secession thing.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
They put it front and center.
dan friesen
Sure, it was the economy, but the economic concern was being able to maintain an economy that relied on slavery.
jordan holmes
Well, free labor does help things.
dan friesen
It's all obfuscation.
And in this instance, it's no different.
Alex is saying that the Civil War was about Western expansion.
What do you think he means by that?
Could it possibly be about whether or not newly admitted states to the Union would be slave or free states?
The Missouri Compromise had banned slavery west of Missouri, which would be a problem for any of the Confederate states, people who are landowners there, who might be interested in asserting their state right to have an economy that worked off free labor of slaves in any of that new land.
So Western expansion, yes, of course it's an issue, but at the bottom of it, also slavery.
jordan holmes
Well, there was slavery.
dan friesen
Alex knows damn well what the Civil War was about, and you can tell because he's explicit about it being about slavery when he wants black people to shut up and thank white people for ending slavery.
Ignoring the fact that he claims to literally be his ancestors, who he said on many occasions fought for the Confederate.
jordan holmes
Yes, but they were fighting for states' rights to keep slaves, not for slavery to continue to exist.
dan friesen
It's a little much.
jordan holmes
It's constitutional.
dan friesen
It's a little much.
jordan holmes
It is constitutional, and that might be an issue.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets to talking more about Robert E. Lee.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's going on a real joke.
jordan holmes
That's what I want to hear about.
Yeah.
I want to hear lies about Robert E. Lee.
dan friesen
This one confused me a little bit about what Alex was trying to say.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then I figured it out, but he expresses it very poorly.
alex jones
Robert E. Lee.
Why hear about Robert E. Lee?
What's the point?
Like, okay, the commander of the Confederate forces, because he's one of the greatest generals, like Alexander the Greater.
George Washington, by the way, Washington had no genetic.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Prodigy.
dan friesen
Progeny.
alex jones
The family that Washington adopted was his family.
So he grew up in George Washington's family.
His father was a famous top general in the Revolutionary War.
I mean, he did not want to split the country in two.
And so that's what I'm saying is Robert E. Lee was an amazing person.
dan friesen
I have no idea what the fuck Alex was trying to say there, but it sounded a lot like he was saying that Robert E. Lee was adopted by George Washington, which isn't true.
jordan holmes
He kind of feels like that.
dan friesen
George Washington had two adopted children, John and Patsy Custis.
Also, just for fun, it would be impossible because Washington and Robert E. Lee's lives didn't overlap.
Sure.
Robert E. Lee married Mary Anna Randolph Custis, who was the granddaughter of John Custis and thus the step-great-granddaughter of George Washington.
jordan holmes
Direct lineage.
dan friesen
I'm not sure that Alex understands this lineage or how meaningless that is, but the fact that he's speaking so unclearly here makes me pretty worried that he doesn't know the full story.
jordan holmes
I think what it means is that Robert E. Lee knew George Washington.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's the only explanation.
Exactly!
That's what Robert E. Lee was about.
dan friesen
After his father-in-law died, Robert E. Lee took on the responsibility of running the Custis family plantation, which did include slaves.
His father-in-law's will said that the slaves were to be freed within five years, and after five years, Lee did free those slaves, but he did wait until the last minute.
There's a good piece in The Atlantic that deconstructs the myth of General Lee being a good man who just wanted to keep the country together.
jordan holmes
Oh, he just wanted to keep the country together?
dan friesen
He was not.
He was a monster.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
From that article, quote, Lee's heavy hand on the Arlington, Virginia, plantation prior rights nearly led to a slave revolt, in part because the enslaved had been expected to be freed upon their previous master's death.
And Lee had engaged in a dubious legal interpretation of his will in order to keep them as property, one that lasted until the Virginia court forced him to free them.
jordan holmes
Wait, are you telling me that a Confederate general didn't want to free his slaves?
dan friesen
Well, that's one of the things that all these people talk about.
It's like, he freed the slaves that he inherited.
Yeah, the courts made him.
jordan holmes
No, I know.
dan friesen
He wouldn't have.
jordan holmes
No, I literally, because I remember, because I read that piece in The Atlantic, and I remember, like, I had this huge flashback to when I was in, like, third or fourth grade, hearing about the Civil War.
And hearing really, really nice shit about Robert E. Lee the whole fucking time.
Like, it was insane to me.
And especially looking back, like, wait a second.
Why are you guys spending a quarter of this Civil War thing on how great the losing general was?
dan friesen
Because you kind of have to.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You don't!
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
No, he sucked!
dan friesen
He was also a cruel asshole who split up families, which was actually against the standing tradition at the Custis Plantation.
That was his innovation.
jordan holmes
Well, he's a great general.
dan friesen
From this Atlantic article, quote, Lee's cruelty as a slave master was not confirmed to physical punishment.
In reading The Man, the historian Elizabeth Brown Pryor's Portrait of Lee through his writings, Pryor writes that Lee ruptured the Washington and Custis tradition of respecting slave families by hiring them off to other plantations, and that, quote, by 1860 he'd broken up every family but one on the estate, some of whom had been together since Mount Vernon days.
The separation of slave families was one of the most unfathomably devastating aspects of slavery, and Pryor wrote that Lee's slaves regarded him as quote, the worst man I ever see.
And that's not all.
When Lee was in charge of the Army of Northern Virginia, they invaded Pennsylvania and quote, enslaved free black Americans and brought them back to the South as property.
Pryor writes that, quote, evidence links virtually every infantry and cavalry unit in Lee's army to the abduction of free black Americans with the activity under the supervision of senior officers.
Robert E. Lee is at best a horrible piece of shit, and Alex is not defending him because he's good at battle strategy.
It's because he was the commander of a racist army that tried to overthrow the American government because they couldn't own people anymore.
Fuck him!
And fuck Alex Jones, too.
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's revisionist nonsense.
It's embarrassing.
jordan holmes
You're talking about a guy who's worse than normal slave owners.
That's how awful this guy is.
The worst human beings in the world own people, and he's worse than them.
dan friesen
Christ.
So Alex gets to talking about how he's in trouble, right?
I mean, there's going to be some bad stuff coming if the globalists get their way, right?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I guess Robert E. Lee is going to come back.
dan friesen
You've got these commies in the Seattle autonomous zone, right?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
They're doing their thing.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
African warlords.
dan friesen
But that's a distraction.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
alex jones
I told you civil war's coming.
They're just getting started.
These people are the cover for MS-13, Chinese operatives, and others that are actually lazing targets all over the United States, literally and figuratively, to make their move when they overthrow and kill Trump or drug him up and say he's had a mental breakdown or a stroke.
They're going to hit a lot of people.
That's crazy.
No, they're going to hit talk show host, members of the Senate.
They'll kill Ron Paul.
They'll kill Ted Cruz.
unidentified
They'll kill Ron Paul.
alex jones
They'll try to kill me.
I'm telling you, I've analyzed their attack profile.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying don't.
dan friesen
He's analyzed their attack profile.
So he's figured out that they're going to take out talk radio.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
So Bundy's Occupy National Park.
Totally fine.
No Chinese involvement there.
dan friesen
Malhu or Refuge.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely no problem.
Some people without guns, some of them with guns, but the large majority making art, they're the ones that the Chinese have chosen to assassinate Ron Paul and...
dan friesen
They're the distraction for the kill teams to come in and take out Ron Paul, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Wait, so all of their security system is like, we gotta figure out what's going on with Chaz before we can ever deal with anything.
dan friesen
I guess so.
jordan holmes
And the Chinese are like, ha ha ha!
They sent their security teams to Seattle.
dan friesen
It's convoluted.
So Alex gets pretty mad about Tim Cook in the middle of this episode.
And he starts yelling about China and how they treat Muslim Uyghurs.
And so here's a little bit of that.
jordan holmes
You treat him about as bad as Robert E. Lee treated him.
Sorry.
alex jones
Apple benefits from forced Uyghur labor at its iPhone supplier factories in China.
According to Explosity Report, Business Insider.
Apple, Samsung, and Sony, among 83 global brands using Uyghur Muslim forced labor in factories, reports fines.
Independent.
jordan holmes
They call that a Robert E. Lee.
alex jones
Other major companies allegedly using linked to Muslim slave camps.
unidentified
But...
alex jones
They've got Colin Kaepernick, and he's got a bozo haircut.
So it's like, oh, wait a minute.
Kaepernick's got a bozo haircut, so we need to bow down to him.
I'm not going to ask questions, I mean.
dan friesen
So Alex is right.
I mean, not the bozo haircut thing.
That's just him being a bigot.
But Alex is right that there are very serious issues that need to be addressed about the state of China's treatment of the Muslim population.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
But I will absolutely never trust Alex to be a credible voice on the subject.
He can be right about a central point and also be completely wrong and detestable at the same time.
One of the main reasons is because he doesn't mean what he says.
Here, he's trying to use the plight of the Uyghur population in China as a prop to attack China, pretending he cares at all about the actual people he's talking about.
But he doesn't.
He doesn't give a shit about these people past the point he can use them as a blunt instrument to attack his imagined enemies.
And I know that because of this, something he said less than a month ago on May 26th.
alex jones
But from Michigan to Texas, from London to Los Angeles, from Rio de Janeiro to Berlin, there are call to prayers.
I don't like to call it Chinese, but they don't put up with that because they know it's a group trying to take them over.
Hey, CHICOMs, do your thing.
Don't try to take me over.
dan friesen
When Alex wants to attack Apple, he cares very deeply about China's treatment of Muslims.
When he wants to spout his outrageous Islamophobia and convince his audience that Islam is trying to take over the West, he encourages China to do their thing.
It is a really good case example for why, even if you kind of agree with the main point behind what Alex is saying, you can't ever let yourself agree with him.
He doesn't agree with himself, and if you ever consider him an ally because of a point you seem to agree on, it'll look like a mistake in hindsight.
All the left-leaning people who thought that Alex was cool because he attacked George W. Bush come to mind here.
No matter the subject you're passionate about and find yourself thinking Alex is right about, whether it's Bush hating or opposition to civil asset forfeiture or denouncing China's treatment of Muslims, you will always be able to find a smarter, more credible source than him on every single issue.
People who actually care, and they mean what they say, who are more than just intellectual sadists trying to take advantage of an audience.
That's all he's doing.
You can't pretend to care and then be like, China, do your thing, because Islam's trying to take over.
You can't do both if you care.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it makes me think so much of this forced...
Deference given to so many politicians by the media and the rules of reporting, wherein you report what a politician says or something like that.
There's no accounting for bad faith.
I don't believe a fucking word Mitch McConnell says.
Even if Mitch McConnell said literally everything that I believe straight into a camera and said, we're going to do it.
I don't care.
I don't believe a thing you say.
You're acting in bad faith.
You don't get the protections of your words when you're clearly acting in bad faith.
And that's what Alex does.
All the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's kind of weaponized by him.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's weaponized by all of them.
dan friesen
Because you can't really argue with the conclusion that, you know, something needs to be done about Muslim treatment in China.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But you can't sign up for his version of it, because it'll take you down a road that you don't want to be on.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And isn't what you signed up for.
So this leads to what I'd describe as an intensely homophobic discussion.
jordan holmes
Sure, why not?
dan friesen
Because he's complaining about Tim Cook and Apple working with China.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so he plays a clip of Tim Cook, and it just turns into him sort of preoccupied with the fact that Tim Cook is gay.
It's great.
It's very childish.
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
Here, let's hear from Tim Cook real quick.
Virtue signaling, hopping around, like, oh, oh.
He doesn't have a pink sweater or an afro.
He's gay.
unidentified
He's like, I run slave camps, oh, oh, but I'm gay, oh.
alex jones
That's his cover.
Here it is.
unidentified
Hello, everyone.
The unfinished work of racial justice and equality call us all to account now and always.
alex jones
Let's start over in a minute.
dan friesen
Hi.
alex jones
I'm on 12 Hits of Ecstasy right now.
Here, let's start over.
Hi.
Hi.
Listen, I like men's weenies.
So it's okay if I run slave camps.
All right?
unidentified
Okay.
Here.
alex jones
Let's hear from Tim Cook again.
Sorry.
dan friesen
So, I mean, he's working on a new impression.
jordan holmes
I think he's working on Tim Gunn, not Tim Cook.
dan friesen
I mean, that's a terrible impression.
It's deeply homophobic.
jordan holmes
Incredibly.
dan friesen
It's childish.
jordan holmes
It's disgusting.
And he managed to offend...
I mean, that was bigotry on just every level.
dan friesen
What's interesting to me is that it goes on for a while.
We're not going to listen to more because it's just basically the same thing over and over again.
Just saying weenies and stuff.
But every time he gets to the end of the riff, he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
He hasn't been doing that as much lately as I used to see.
He used to do that quite a bit.
Just going off and being like, sorry, sorry, sorry.
It seems like that's a behavior that I haven't seen in a while.
Probably meaningless.
It doesn't signify anything.
So he does that out to break, and he comes back.
And man, he's going to hit some of these big topics.
alex jones
There's an article up on Infowars.com.
It's very cringeworthy.
It's very hard to watch.
I'll be honest with you.
I tried to watch it twice.
I only watched it halfway through.
We're going to do it together.
But this is a bunch of Hollywood stars looking completely inauthentic.
jordan holmes
You would know.
alex jones
More funny than a plastic banana, the $3 bill, telling us about how they're bad and they're white and they apologize and they're going to be better now.
dan friesen
If you don't like that video, why are you wasting your time?
Like, what's the point?
jordan holmes
Dan, I don't like that video.
dan friesen
Did you have any instinct to bring it up and waste our time talking about it?
jordan holmes
No, I didn't.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
It wasn't a thought I had.
dan friesen
That seems like a healthy impulse.
jordan holmes
I wasn't like, here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to derail this conversation completely and then just say, apropos of nothing, white liberal celebrities hate them.
dan friesen
I mean, he's pretending that world leaders listen to his show and he's taking his time to complain about celebrity videos.
And sure, there's plenty of criticism.
If you want to tweet something, go for it.
But it just seems trivial compared to what he should.
Recovering based on how he views himself.
And the fact that he's like, I tried to watch it twice.
Why?
I haven't tried to watch it once.
I get it.
I get it.
I don't need to watch it.
I get it.
jordan holmes
I got through about five seconds and I was like, no, no, no.
That's all right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Who knows?
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
So now, Jordan, this blew my mind.
I lost my mind in the middle of this episode.
jordan holmes
What, were you reading about Kristen Bell?
She's a landlord, didn't you?
dan friesen
I heard that.
I saw a tweet.
jordan holmes
It was on Twitter.
unidentified
I don't care.
dan friesen
Again, we're not going to waste our time talking about it.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
I want to derail this conversation.
dan friesen
I don't care.
jordan holmes
I'm just kidding.
I still don't care either.
dan friesen
So, this blew my mind.
Yeah.
I'm not even going to try to set this up.
I've not heard this theme music coming in and out of break, but it was very out of place.
unidentified
What is happening?
alex jones
Crank it up.
unidentified
So good.
alex jones
We are back live broadcasting worldwide.
And we are joined by Lee Stranahan.
Really appreciate investigative journalists.
He's worked for Breitbart.
He's worked for the Huffington Post.
He's worked for the Cable RLs.
dan friesen
That juxtaposition is fucking amazing.
He comes in with Shake It Like a Salt Shaker.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
It's a family show.
unidentified
Man.
He's playing skeet so much they call her Billy Ocean.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
If Infowars had a booty.
It'd be big.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got Lee Stranahan.
jordan holmes
If you had any principles, Alex, you would not listen to music.
Just period.
You're not allowed to have any because it's not for you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, I should say this.
I forgot earlier.
I just remember this because of the family show with the Shake It Like a Salt Shaker.
This is the out of context drop from today's show.
alex jones
Imagine being in an orgy with John Bolton trying to get a heart on.
I mean, just come on.
Sorry.
Family show.
Delay that.
dan friesen
You should probably have delayed that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'd be smart.
dan friesen
I love the idea that he's sitting around thinking about what it would be like to be at an orgy with John Bolton and trying to get a boner.
jordan holmes
It's like one of those high school camping trips, you know?
Everybody's sitting around looking out at the stars and somebody's like, do you believe in God?
And the other guy's like, do you ever wonder what it would be like to be at an orgy with John Bolton trying to get a heart on?
dan friesen
It's an interesting glimpse into Alex's mind because I can tell you that I have not considered that.
And now I am considering it.
jordan holmes
How's it going?
dan friesen
I could probably do it.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
I mean, if it wasn't John Bolton, like if it was just someone who looked exactly like him, I think I'd be fine.
But if it was John Bolton, I'd have a lot of questions.
jordan holmes
There would be a lot of issues.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'd have a lot of like, hey, man, let's talk about a rock.
jordan holmes
If we're going to do orgy jokes, I mean, come on.
If you're at an orgy with Roger Stone.
One, you expect to see him there, so you're already prepared.
dan friesen
How do you do?
jordan holmes
Even if you're like, I didn't know Roger Stone was going to be at this orgy, you were like, Roger Stone was going to be at an orgy tonight.
dan friesen
Even if it's like a mask affair, you're going to see the tattoo.
jordan holmes
You see the Dick Nixon, and you're like, that's a dick I need over here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean...
Yeah, that was derailing a little bit on my part.
I apologize, but we needed to hear that out of context.
unidentified
Deeply disturbing.
dan friesen
Anytime Alex says it's a family show, we have to hear it.
jordan holmes
It's gotta be.
dan friesen
So anyway, Lee Stranahan's on, and his interview sucks, but he's explaining that the globalists, what they're doing, is they're taking this domestic issue, which would be, I don't know, black people being murdered by the police, and they're escalating it up.
They're amplifying it.
jordan holmes
I'm just confused how you can amplify that.
dan friesen
We don't really need to talk about that, because I don't really care about his argument.
You'll see why I kept this clip in pretty quick.
unidentified
They take an internal issue, they gin it up, right?
lee stranahan
America's got a history of slavery and everything else, like most countries.
But they know that they've been able to take over the civil rights movement, as you know.
alex jones
Well, that's what any anthropologist or sociologist does, what the CIA's main mission is.
dan friesen
Alex is eating.
He's just having lunch.
So Lee Stranahan's on and Alex is just eating a sandwich.
jordan holmes
How do you not feel incredibly disrespected by that?
dan friesen
I mean, it's very rude.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine being on a show.
dan friesen
It's like calling Xfinity.
jordan holmes
I really...
unidentified
Assholes.
dan friesen
Yeah, I can't even imagine it either because your time is valuable.
jordan holmes
Comcast is the Alex Jones of companies in that they should be removed from this earth.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you are somebody who is like Lee Stranahan, you fancy yourself an investigative journalist whose time is valuable, who's like, I am a professional.
I do serious work.
You talk to Alex and he's just chowing down.
jordan holmes
Chopping on a sandwich.
dan friesen
It's rude.
jordan holmes
That is rude.
dan friesen
It's fucking rude.
I understand doing that to callers.
I also understand doing that to Lee Stranahan.
I'd be fine with that, but it would be more fun if it was an open sign of disrespect.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
As opposed to the thing he's trying to keep on the low.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying that the people that Alex talks to don't deserve all the disrespect in the world.
dan friesen
Anybody who agrees to be on Infowars that isn't that guy who hits stuff with a hammer.
And I don't actually know if that guy is cool or not, but he seemed to be fucking with Alex a little bit.
If you go on Infowars, if they ask you to come on and you make a joke out of it, I don't hate you for that.
But everybody else, fuck off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you deserve to have a sandwich eaten in your face.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
That's my point.
But I've spoken too soon.
I forgot that Lee Stranahan has a gigantic new project coming up.
And I respect the hell out of this.
And I probably want a booking.
unidentified
And I got a new show called Populous TV.
lee stranahan
It's 11 o 'clock on my Twitter feed.
unidentified
People can watch it there.
dan friesen
That's not a TV show.
jordan holmes
That's not a...
dan friesen
That's...
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
That's a...
They're streaming on Twitter.
Wow.
So, Alex talks to Lee for a little bit, and it's mostly about, like, Soros is running Black Lives Matter and all this, like, Soros runs Antifa.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Now, things get real interesting, because Steve Pchenik shows up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So now Lee Stranahan is there on hold, but Alex needs to talk to Steve.
And they talk about...
Alex is going to introduce him here.
And it's just so pathetic.
This is just pathetic.
alex jones
Welcome back.
I'm Alex Jones, your host.
I really appreciate Dr. Steve Pichinick popping in on short notice, but he's really been...
Critical and almost broke with Trump when he brought in Bolton.
I agree it was an insane idea that Bolton himself lied to him.
dan friesen
Alex can't cop to the fact that he was fucking wrong.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, he can't do it.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
dan friesen
It's insane.
He's introducing Steve, and Steve was 100% against Bolton back then.
And trying to convince Alex to be against Bolton.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And Alex did not go along with it.
He can't acknowledge it.
He cannot.
jordan holmes
Ever.
dan friesen
Cowardly.
jordan holmes
You can never lose.
You can never be wrong.
You can never admit for one second that you had something to learn because when he was 14, he knew everything.
dan friesen
So anyway, Steve is on and he's got some shit to talk about John Bolton.
jordan holmes
Sure!
Why not?
dan friesen
Victory lap for Steve.
jordan holmes
That is kind of what I was looking forward to.
dan friesen
Well, it's not as good as you'd think it is.
unidentified
God damn it, Steve!
dan friesen
but there is something that's pretty great.
steve pieczenik
Okay.
unidentified
There's always a vulnerability that a political appointment can manipulate, and in turn, the president manipulates the candidate.
steve pieczenik
So you have a mutual kind of manipulation.
In this particular case, Bolton knew a lot about Trump, and my suspicion is his sexual activities, which Bolton had been part of many, many years ago in New York.
I'm not going to go into further.
unidentified
Please don't!
jordan holmes
Disagree.
One, first, I'm going to need you to confirm or deny whether or not there was a video of Reagan getting pegged.
And two, I want to know more about what Bolton was doing at that fucking orgy with Trump.
And I want to know why Stone wasn't there.
dan friesen
And I guess, I don't know, man.
I guess Bolton's got sexual blackmail on Trump.
unidentified
Does anybody not have sexual blackmail on Trump?
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
jordan holmes
I feel like I do now.
dan friesen
It's exasperating at a certain point.
Just, like, these sorts of things are, like, yeah, all right.
I mean, I guess if Bolton does have sexual blackmail on Trump, you'd assume it's in that book, right?
I mean, like, he's accusing him of, like, treasonous stuff.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, there's treason, and then there's revealing that you cheated on your wife, okay?
There is a code of ethics among men.
dan friesen
You're talking bro code?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
You see that mustache.
You know that's a guy who lives by bro code.
Fucking nonsense.
I don't know.
I don't know what this is.
I like that Steve's still swinging.
jordan holmes
I like the idea that sexual blackmail is way more damaging than revealing treason.
I do appreciate the blackmail standards are very different.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, to be fair, I haven't read that book.
That Bolton's putting out.
So I don't know.
Maybe there is something about this swinging in there.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
But also maybe Bolton doesn't want to bring that up because it would implicate himself in it.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
Well, it seems like he should be implicating himself in the very treason that he's describing on account of him watching it and not doing anything about it.
If you watch somebody commit treason...
Don't you commit treason?
dan friesen
He told a lawyer I'm not part of this.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
If you're next to somebody committing a murder and they were talking to you about it and they're like, hey, I'm going to go murder this guy and you were like, alright.
How can I help?
That's called accessory.
dan friesen
As long as you certify with a lawyer that I'm not with this murder.
jordan holmes
I don't remember the Nuremberg trials working like that, but okay.
dan friesen
So Steve's got this idea that Bolton's got sexual blackmail on Trump.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This doesn't develop.
Any further.
But Lee Stranahan, still there.
He comes in with what I think is the most exciting piece of juicy right-wing media gossip.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
This is exciting.
jordan holmes
Okay, here we go.
dan friesen
Huge if true.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So Lee's talking about, like, when he says Steve, he's talking about Steve Bannon, who apparently hates Alex and has been trying to destroy him.
jordan holmes
Good.
lee stranahan
And Alex, I don't know if you know this, But this is firsthand from the people involved.
unidentified
Steve is working with Mike Zirinovich and Jack Posobiec now.
I know people who were working directly with them, and they told me their goal was to destroy you.
That they wanted to get all...
lee stranahan
And this was at the time when those guys were on the network.
unidentified
And somebody who worked directly with them said they would talk all the time about...
Destroying you.
So, Steve, you could not be more right.
And again, this is not conjecture.
dan friesen
So when he says, Steve, you couldn't have been more right.
jordan holmes
Talking to Stevie P. Right.
dan friesen
But he's also, what he's referring to is that Steve was talking about, like, these people, they're all envious of you.
But envy is not the same thing as jealousy, because envy is, I want to be that person and destroy them and not make them able to do...
Right, it's very big flattery stuff.
It's big flattery stuff.
And now Lee is coming in.
It's Steve Bannon is working with Jack Posobiec and Mike Cernovich to destroy Alex.
jordan holmes
Lee, he was eating a sandwich while talking to you, and he put you on hold for Steve Petrennik!
dan friesen
To talk about Bolton having sexual blackmail.
jordan holmes
Do not praise this man!
unidentified
How...
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
I just love the idea.
jordan holmes
Have some fucking spine!
dan friesen
If I could do this all over again, and we had a third person here, I would love to have written a script of Bannon, Jack Posobiec, and Mike Cernovich trying to take down Alex.
Oh, God.
Okay, so what I'll do, what I'll do is I'll go to Comet Ping Pong Pizza and pretend that I find demonic activity there, and then I'll go get on Infowars.
jordan holmes
Love it.
Love it.
Do you have more Coke?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay!
More plans!
dan friesen
What a group of losers.
jordan holmes
Why is it that all of these fucking shitty losers are...
Oh, God.
dan friesen
I can't...
I mean, obviously, the potential of other people getting hurt in the process is high.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I love the idea of there being like a rogues gallery or a Justice League.
Of right-wing shitheads trying to take out Alex.
unidentified
Because they think that somehow they'll take his place or something.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
See, now all I think of more is just how awful the Algonquin table would have been if it was filled with right-wing douchebags.
dan friesen
Would it?
Seems pretty unsufferable.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That is fair.
dan friesen
So, I mean, we're just about at the end of this.
Like, it really ends up becoming a thing where, like, Lee and Steve are just sucking up to Alex.
They're just flattering him to a level that is almost uncomfortable.
It's kind of gross to listen to.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve pieczenik
Lee is correct.
I mean, I believe everything you say, and I'll tell you why, Alex.
The one thing you have to understand, my dear friend, is that you create envy.
Not just jealousy, but envy.
Out of nowhere, you come in.
dan friesen
To be clear, this is Steve restating his point.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He's already said this.
jordan holmes
Okay, great.
steve pieczenik
You're very effective.
You're very funny.
And at the same time, you're very serious.
And you created, oh my God, millions of people who enjoy what you do.
That is the basis of threatening the sociopaths who cannot create a company, who cannot do anything but self-aggrandizement and process.
And that was abandoned.
But you have to understand...
alex jones
But it's the same reason they hate you or Trump or Stranahan or anybody.
Exactly.
Why they hate America?
Because America isn't controlled.
dan friesen
There's other reasons for people not liking the group of people you just mentioned.
jordan holmes
That is an acceptable thing to say if you are absolutely shit-faced and there is no one else around and you're at a bar and it's 4 a.m.
You can be like, you know, people think it's because they envy you.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
jordan holmes
It's because I know you're...
Because they're not just jealous.
dan friesen
It's because you're too good, man.
jordan holmes
It's because you're too good.
That's why you're not going to get JFL.
dan friesen
You're too funny.
Yeah, it's silly.
Oh, God.
I wish I would have cut this clip, but it was in the middle of stuff that just wasn't worth...
It would have to have been either a two-second thing or a ten-minute clip.
But Steve was talking about how he started Tom Clancy's business.
jordan holmes
Because he's talking about like these businesses.
So maybe he is drunk.
dan friesen
He's talking about all these businesses he started.
It's like, I started Tom Clancy Enterprise.
unidentified
See?
jordan holmes
Now that's some drunk shit right there.
That's the same night.
The same night.
Like, you're too good.
dan friesen
I don't think it's drunk coming from Steve.
I think it's more like he's just unhinged.
Yeah, he's just insane.
jordan holmes
He's just an crazy person.
dan friesen
Off the charts.
So we only have one last clip here, and Alex has cut Steve loose, because he was just there to shit on Bolton.
jordan holmes
Right, of course.
dan friesen
And I have to believe, I mean, I don't know if this is the truth, but I have to believe that Steve called Alex and was like, I mean, come on.
I was right about Bolton.
I'm gonna come on and gloat a little bit.
It's pretty short appearance.
But Lee Stranahan's still on for a couple minutes afterwards.
And he has this really shitty idea.
unidentified
The thing Trump has to do is do what the base wants him to do.
lee stranahan
Pardon Stone and pardon Manafort, especially.
Because Manafort actually knows what's going on with Russiagate.
unidentified
He was trying to warn Trump, and that's why they've got him gagged.
alex jones
Oh, I was thinking he should bring Manafort back on the campaign to piss in their face.
unidentified
That's exactly right.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's what they should do.
They should pee in people's faces.
jordan holmes
I don't understand these guys.
Does he know Manafort personally?
dan friesen
Lee or Alex?
jordan holmes
Lee.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't understand why anybody...
dan friesen
It's possible they've run in similar circles at some point.
jordan holmes
That's just the only thing that makes sense to me.
dan friesen
He used to work at Breitbart.
jordan holmes
Manafort did?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, Lee did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's possible.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, it doesn't make any sense to me why you'd want to...
Pardon, why you would say out loud, pardon Manafort.
dan friesen
I think, I mean, if I had to be a cynical-minded person about it, I would say it's some of the same reasons that you'd want to pardon Roger, and that is that they know a lot.
jordan holmes
Totally!
dan friesen
You don't want them to spill the beans.
jordan holmes
Right, but I mean, that's if you're in that kind of...
dan friesen
Their whole economy blows up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Not the entire right-wing ecosystem, but particularly that of Alex and the associated figures.
A lot of the sycophantically pro-Trump, especially people who associate with Alex, because Roger was basically running Infowars for a while.
Those people really have a vested interest in someone like Roger never being honest.
And I'm sure it's similar but without the media focus with Manafort.
He knows a ton of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
It's just wild to me because it's like...
unidentified
Yeah, he did that shit, man.
jordan holmes
You know it and I know it.
He's a bad dude.
And if you don't think that he did that shit, don't stick your neck out for him.
He's done all the other shit.
Like, if it weren't for Trump being president, we could have gotten him on so much more shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, but again, I mean, like, Roger and Manafort both work together in their consulting firm for dictators for years.
jordan holmes
Just disgusting human beings.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
They should have been in prison when there were nine.
I don't know how they got to this far.
dan friesen
Maybe 19. 19, maybe.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I don't want to put minors in prison.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I just can't imagine Stone being...
dan friesen
I think Roger, by the time he was 19, was working on Nixon's campaign.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get him in there.
Get him in there.
dan friesen
So, I mean, we come to the end of this, and this episode is, you know, it is what it is.
I'm fascinated by the fact that on Thursday, Alex was so preoccupied with this video from this nurse in New York.
And it completely falls off on Friday.
He's now preoccupied with an interview Biden did on The Daily Show.
There's little coherence.
There's a very minimal amount of coherence to this.
jordan holmes
You can't be that obsessed with that video and then just forget about it the next day.
At least mention it, right?
Does he mention it?
dan friesen
I mean, I feel like...
I wouldn't remember if he did.
If he did, it was in such passing that it was just not important at all.
jordan holmes
I just don't understand these people.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's pretty tough to...
But I think, you know what I think?
I think there's a possibility that he recognizes that there's nothing new on that front today.
It'll be there.
jordan holmes
It's still there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can see that.
dan friesen
It can sit for a while.
Let's focus on trying to build something out of this Biden Daily Show thing.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
See if we can get that to the point where it's another plate we're spinning.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think that there's a possibility for that, but it does.
As a listener, it does feel a little bit jarring for it to be like, they're killing fucking people in hospitals, and this video proves it.
And then it'd just be like, hey, Biden's on the Daily Show.
jordan holmes
There just can't be.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
If you have any belief in what it is you're saying, there's no possible way that you can spend a whole show on all doctors are murdering people for money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then the next day be like, did you see what Biden said on the Daily Show?
dan friesen
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
That's the biggest story in the world if doctors are murdering people.
dan friesen
It should be.
And that's kind of a tell that they're not serious.
But I honestly think that the most important thing on this episode is that Alex thinks that only two people were charged in the assassination of Lincoln.
jordan holmes
You think so?
You think that's the most important thing?
dan friesen
Because it's so telling.
jordan holmes
It's so dumb.
dan friesen
It's so revealing of how little he knows.
Like, I would say that the assassination of Abraham Lincoln is...
I mean, there's a lot of very important events that shaped American history.
But that is a gigantic one.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
You know, his vice president was really trustworthy.
A lot of people wanted him to really...
dan friesen
I think...
jordan holmes
He did a great job.
dan friesen
I think with sober eyes and clarity, you could say that it's probably top ten.
jordan holmes
I don't think anything went wrong with that.
dan friesen
So, I just think it's remarkable that he doesn't know that story at all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I didn't know how many people were charged.
dan friesen
I understand not knowing the specific number.
jordan holmes
And that's why I didn't say, and the only other person charged in this, because I didn't know.
dan friesen
But I would assume, I don't know if you would know, like, I don't know what everyone's awareness base is, but I would assume that you would have known that it wasn't just two people.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, no.
dan friesen
There were, I mean, Mary Surratt is also a very important thing that's taught in history classes.
jordan holmes
She's the first woman to be murdered by the United States government.
dan friesen
And it's such a piece of the story of the Lincoln assassination that it seems impossible to educate yourself on the subject and not know about her.
And if you know about her, then you can't say that...
Mud is the only other person who was charged.
And if you know about what happened after the assassination, you know that Booth fled with Harold.
So you know that there's another person who was with him that got captured.
You can't think that.
Alex is just fucking stupid.
And when you see things like that, to borrow from a philosopher named Alex Jones.
That's a Rosetta Stone.
Through it, you can see all of Alex's bullshit.
jordan holmes
Everything.
dan friesen
Just make stuff up.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
Confidently.
Exactly.
Confidently makes things up.
jordan holmes
That confidence is terrifying.
Yeah, it is.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com, Dan.
dan friesen
Yes, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And if you could please find a local charity.
or a bail fund or anything that you can do to help in the areas that you are in.
dan friesen
Indeed.
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX.
Clark, I am Turd Blossom.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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