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June 3, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#440: June 1-2, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan continue to track the abhorrent behavior of Alex Jones in the present day. In this installment, Alex is accused of burning a mattress, Alex and his staff make peace with military arresting citizens for breaking curfew, and Dan abuses Jordan with more fun drops.

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alex jones
17:10
d
dan friesen
01:04:16
j
jordan holmes
21:52
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millie weaver
01:55
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donald j trump
00:02
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savanah hernandez
00:04
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
I'd like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk just a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
Every now and again.
dan friesen
Yeah, what's up, man?
jordan holmes
Oh, not too much.
How you doing?
dan friesen
I'm alright.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
Yeah, what do you got?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot this day?
dan friesen
It's most certainly that today, while I was getting ready for our episode, I learned that I got approved for an apartment.
So I found a new home to live in.
Hopefully it'll be up to all the qualifications that are needed for me to...
Make more of a home, as opposed to one of these transient flop squats that I've been ending up in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, usually they're filled with snakes, and there's no St. Patrick around for you.
dan friesen
No, that is true.
jordan holmes
That's unfortunate.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so, I mean, I have high hopes.
I found this place, and I really like it, and I went and visited it.
It's moved very fast, and I think that's good.
Because I visited a number of places that just weren't...
We're not up to snuff.
I would just be angry at them.
And this place was great.
It was really pretty much ideal in a lot of ways.
And I was lucky.
I guess I got lucky.
Because I just put in an application, heard back pretty quickly.
And, you know, moving along.
I'll be moving at the middle of this month.
jordan holmes
Very soon.
dan friesen
Very soon.
jordan holmes
In a moment.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I will be walking out this door into my new apartment.
dan friesen
If you all hear me stressed out as hell on this podcast, that might be part of the reason why.
And I guess the generalized everything that's going on in the world.
jordan holmes
Wow, there's that.
dan friesen
So what about you?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is yesterday, thousands of people in Uptown walked, marched, and just kicked ass all over the place in a very peaceful way.
dan friesen
It was so many people!
jordan holmes
So many people.
It was thousands.
It was genuinely inspiring to see.
dan friesen
Yeah, for sure.
So, Jordan, today, because of everything that's going on, I feel the obligation to stay in the present day.
And check in on Alex and see what he's up to.
So today we're going to be going over the 1st and 2nd of June 2020.
I'm Dan, this is 2020.
And, you know, I think that there's one gigantic thing to talk about and then there's a lot of little mini bullshit things that Alex is doing.
But I think seeing a lot of the sort of similar trends just continue on.
I think you're seeing a lot of...
Acceleration.
I think there's a lot of intensification of Alex's call for blood, basically.
alex jones
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Those don't usually get quieter.
dan friesen
No.
There's a desire to rationalize the idea of Trump using the military against protesters.
You have those things, and there's an interesting sort of push and pull that Alex is trying to do, where he's trying to pretend that he retained some of his principles while yelling for blood.
You know, we'll see how it plays out.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
On his show.
And we'll get to that in a moment.
But before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So, Caghin M, I think.
C-A-G-H-A-I-N.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Coffain.
Coffin?
unidentified
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next, one word, Lauren Techie.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Lauren Techie.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Taylor Z. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Taylor.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Matthias B. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Matthias.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Rhiannon.
Thank you so much.
No last name on that, but thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Rhiannon.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Joey M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Joey.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So thank you so much to Amani S., you are now a technocrat, and James C., thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Amani, and thank you so much, James.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show, or you can take that generosity and bundle it up really nice and toss it over to some mutual aid kind of situation to help people.
jordan holmes
Very much so.
dan friesen
So Jordan, I don't want to belabor this or spend too much time here, but if we stop doing the Year of the Seltzer, it will just end.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So although these times are great and serious, we also still need to check in with the Year of the Seltzer.
So not a lot of progress.
jordan holmes
It's nothing quite like playing such a bright and positive drop immediately followed by not much going on today.
dan friesen
Not much progress in the year of the Seltzer.
We're holding steady at 96. Seltzer's drank at this point.
And what I want to call out today is a little brand called Recess.
It's a fizzy water that's got like CBD, I think.
It's got some sort of a hemp thing.
jordan holmes
Take a break from your life.
dan friesen
Take a recess.
jordan holmes
Take it down.
dan friesen
I will say I got two varieties of recess.
One of them was a pomegranate hibiscus.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Fantastic.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
77. 77 is good.
Loved it.
jordan holmes
That's good.
That's good.
dan friesen
Then I tried their other one, which was peach ginger.
jordan holmes
Peach ginger.
dan friesen
Disaster.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Could not finish it.
Tasted like shit.
jordan holmes
Couldn't even finish.
dan friesen
22 out of 100.
jordan holmes
Oh, 22!
Oh, man.
That's a tale of two recesses.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's strange to me that companies are capable of such heights and such lows.
But such is the recess.
jordan holmes
As a bipolar person, I respect that.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, sometimes at recess, you're playing with your buddies, maybe playing dodgeball.
Sometimes you get in trouble, you gotta sit by the wall.
jordan holmes
It can happen.
dan friesen
Yeah, recess is not always fun.
So, thank you so much to recess, who are not sponsored.
Thank you for the pomegranate hibiscus one.
That was really good.
I may have another one of those at some point.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
So, we're gonna start here on June 1st, Monday's show, and at this point, Alex, there's big news.
There's some big things happening, and Alex gets down to it here in this first clip.
alex jones
We're going to have Savannah Hernandez and Zach.
He's been here five years as a camera guy.
I don't know if he wants his last name on air, so we'll find out when he comes on.
But he was down there.
He's now been accused by the Twitter mob of he's the one that burned the homeless camp.
Because when they're burning it, one old Marine who's homeless goes and says, how dare you?
Antifa runs off like cockroaches when the lights turn on.
They run up to Zach.
Zach doesn't run because he didn't burn it down.
And the guy starts screaming, saying, why have you done this?
Because he just sees him as a protester.
Top of Twitter, Alex Jones stages attack, burns, homeless camp.
dan friesen
So to be perfectly transparent with you and the audience, Alex did play the video of the man experiencing homelessness who had his mattress set on fire in Austin on his show on Sunday.
And I chose not to include it on our episode that we put out on Monday for a specific reason.
This was an editorial decision that I made because I tried to get to the bottom of what was going on in the video and I couldn't find anything.
In other cases, ambiguous video had some context clues that allowed me to get something of a grip on them.
Like in the case of the bricks in Dallas, we know what building that video is in front of and we can discuss the idea of bricks being planted there in the context of some surrounding clues.
The case of the video of the mattress fire was another thing altogether.
All you had was Alex presenting a video of a mattress being burned and his claim that it was the protesters who set it on fire and other people saying Alex did it.
In that kind of situation, I'm presented with a couple of options.
The first is to accept Alex's framing of the story and work to explain how it's an isolated incident of individuals and it doesn't necessarily implicate the larger character of the protests.
This isn't a good option because it relies wholly on taking Alex's word about an unclear situation and it's usually unwise to do that.
The second option is to speculate that all is not what it appears to be.
This could take the form of saying info has probably set the whole thing up, or that it was the Proud Boys, or any possible entity you could come up with to point the finger at.
This option feels better to someone who has the positions and beliefs I do, because I hate to imagine that someone who would be associated with protests that I support and believe in the cause of would victimize a person experiencing homelessness like that.
It's ugly, and to avoid the feelings that that ugliness would bring up, way too many people have blindly accepted this conclusion with no evidence that InfoWars staged the whole thing.
The third option, and the one I took, was to be cautious and not discuss it until there was more to go on.
Isolated incidents of property damage, even if this egregious, are not so pressing a news item that we should feel like we have to make unforced errors by either making unfounded accusations of a false flag...
Or making the mistake of ceding the ground to Alex and accepting his framing.
Both of those are not winning solutions.
It's hard, and I fully understand people's impulse to craft a theory that Alex or Infowars did this to make protesters look bad, but I have to say that it's been real disheartening and a bummer to watch people do this.
I've heard a number of rationalizations for why someone would assume Alex was behind it.
One is that he's capable of doing something like this.
And I concede that he almost certainly is, and that if there were evidence that he did it, I wouldn't be surprised at all.
But being capable of a false flag publicity stunt is not the same thing as actually doing it.
Another rationalization is that Alex lies all the time about other people, so it's fine to weaponize a conspiracy against him.
And I have something important to say about anyone who might feel that way.
I'm often unfairly accused of being a when they go low, we go high guy.
And I resent that, and this is nothing even close to that in this case in particular.
Absent proof that Infowars set this fire, this is a conspiracy theory that some people are choosing to accept as fact, or likely fact, because it helps them build a narrative more conveniently.
After three and a half years of studying Alex Jones, I'm comfortable saying that this pattern of thinking, of accepting conspiracies absent evidence, is what made Alex Jones into Alex Jones.
We're a show that's about this mentality and how it's corrosive.
We primarily discuss this through the prism of Alex Jones because he's the most flagrant and obvious example of someone who's become super famous, whose entire career is based on conspiracy narratives and building them out of things he cannot ever come close to proving.
But if you look at all the people that we cover, that's essentially one of the big commonalities between them.
jordan holmes
That's their job.
They view that centrally as their job.
Alex doesn't do anything.
He doesn't make anything.
He doesn't even have any creative impulse because all the things on those shirts are probably stolen from some random person or a caller.
He doesn't make anything other than lies out of stuff that he can't prove.
dan friesen
That's it.
Conspiracy thinking and this kind of shit is a manifestation generally of laziness.
And allowing it to be your process in one case only makes it easier to accept as your process the next time.
And on some level, this is why Alex sucks so much.
He's learned over the course of his career that he doesn't need to do better than just make something up and his audience will be trained to accept that level of reasoning as wisdom.
If people are going to be opposed to that kind of information economy that the right wing has thrust us into, it's crucial that they don't become lazy themselves and just use the same tricks.
This isn't because the tricks are inherently wrong, though I do think they are.
It's because they're corrosive.
They work well.
You know, you could smear people like crazy and it works.
Yeah.
unidentified
But they also hurt you when you use them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
These techniques are not they're bad for you.
dan friesen
So naturally, probably the less abstract consideration is that you can't prove that Alex or Infowars started that fire.
And if you can't, you might as well be working for Infowars when you make that accusation.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
A Twitter account that posted this accusation got over 13,000 retweets.
And the video on Twitter had almost 25 million views.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Just earlier when I was looking at it.
jordan holmes
No, stop it.
Stop it, people.
dan friesen
He's getting tons and tons of free press.
And guess what?
Like I said, if you can't prove that he did that, you've given him the perfect gift.
He can point to this as a great piece of evidence that the media and the left, they always lie about him because he's always right about everything and that he's too much of a threat.
Deconstructing and discussing this propaganda is on one level something I love to do because it's interesting to me.
It satisfies an intellectual curiosity and I like learning about fucked up belief systems.
But on another level, it's motivated by a desire to limit the toxic effect people like Alex have on the people they've indoctrinated.
His worldview is nonsensical, and his business is exploitative to the people who have been tricked into following him.
The narrative's changed to suit Alex's needs and maximize his profits.
He's been on the verge of both victory and the globalists shutting him down for 20 years.
The reason that this kind of thing, the accusation that Infowars set this guy's mattress on fire, really, really, really rubs me the wrong way is because it has the potential to expose a lot of people to Infowars and also trick them into thinking that he's right.
There's a decent chance that a lot of people could be led down a very toxic path and convinced that they've found truth because of an unproven accusation that Infowars staged a news story, and I find that unacceptable.
jordan holmes
You can't give him the opportunity to play the victim by making him the victim.
dan friesen
Exactly!
jordan holmes
Because then you amplify his message, again, 25 million views, you see all these people, and if he proves himself correctly, or even if there's no proof that he did it...
He can absolutely play the victim, amplify his message, and when people see that he actually is the victim of something that's untrue, or at least impossible to prove, they're going to be like, well, obviously this guy is right, and they're going to pay more attention to him.
It's awful.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a trick.
He relies on stuff like this.
And if you just deprive him of this kind of oxygen, he won't be able, or they have a much more difficult time having access to fertile minds to corrupt.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is very much like, oh, you say that it's fine to use his own tricks against him, but what you don't understand is he's been telling people that you're using those tricks anyways.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
You're not doing anything other than proving that you're using those tricks.
dan friesen
And let me double down on that.
Also, you're not going to outdo him at these tricks.
jordan holmes
He's got 25 years experience on you.
dan friesen
And he's shameless.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
You're not going to out-propaganda this dude?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're going to feel bad at some point, and he never will.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
So yeah, that's, you know.
But I want to be clear, too.
I can't say that he didn't do it.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
If you prove he did it, hell yeah, he did it.
Oh, of course he did.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I've watched the video a bunch of times, slowed it down like the Zabruder film.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And maybe eventually something will come out that shows that they did stage it, and then we can have the discussion, and that's fine.
But right now...
I've asked multiple people to provide any evidence that this was Infowars doing, and the best anyone has is a blurry picture of a logo that folks say is Infowars, but it's impossible to tell if it is.
And I don't think it is.
jordan holmes
No, what you should have done is looked at your computer and said, enhance.
That usually works.
dan friesen
That works on CSI.
jordan holmes
That usually works.
I'm not going to lie to you.
dan friesen
The other piece of evidence is that the man who owns the mattress approaches the camera and says, quote, I live here.
What the fuck are you doing?
To me, this doesn't really prove that the man is accusing the camera person of burning the mattress.
Considering that the people who brought the mattress to the fire came from a completely different direction from the camera, it looks more like he was just yelling at the closest camera.
It doesn't really prove anything to me.
But those are the two pieces of evidence that are like, this is proof that Infowars did this, and I just don't accept those as solid evidence.
jordan holmes
No, it's unfortunate.
dan friesen
And, you know, not to say that Alex is the king, but this is a situation where you come at the king, you can't miss.
You can't do stuff like this unless you know.
jordan holmes
I believe he could have did it so easily.
I believe that in a heartbeat, but if you can't prove it, you're fucked.
It's unfortunate.
dan friesen
It plays into his hands.
It's important to remember that the camera person here, too, and the people who throw the mattress on the fire are not associated in the video at all, and that there's no way the camera person would have an InfoWars sign on them.
They weren't being accosted or yelled at, so it's definitely a situation where they were in stealth mode.
So I don't know how this guy would have known that it was an InfoWars camera person.
They're not wearing a fucking little card in their hat that says InfoWars.
They would be run out of there so fast.
You saw what happened to the tank?
jordan holmes
No one is allowing somebody with an InfoWars press badge on.
dan friesen
Those Fox News people got thrown out of the DC protest.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah, they did.
dan friesen
They ran off.
Alex's tank.
What would they do with a person who's just a person?
jordan holmes
At the very least, that camera probably would be gone.
dan friesen
They'd be standing around them at the very least, or like yelling at them, and that was not the case.
There's plenty of ways to attack and critique Alex in Infowars that don't require this kind of unforced error, and that don't play directly into Alex's playbook.
This kind of thing just doesn't play, and that's why I think the prudent decision in cases like this is to wait until there's more information available.
If it turns out to be a rogue protester acting reprehensibly, then you can discuss it on that front and it doesn't invalidate the larger protest or the points of what's going on in the world.
And you don't have to then cede the ground to Infowars' editorial position.
And if it does turn out that there is evidence that Infowars did it, you can have the discussion far more responsibly because you can say, here is why.
I don't know.
I was so mad yesterday.
jordan holmes
I know.
I was texting you furious about it.
unidentified
I know.
dan friesen
I just can't.
I don't understand why people have the...
That's not true.
I do understand why.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course you do.
dan friesen
I just...
I don't understand why people can't get to the second step and recognize, like, this is going to be counterproductive.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It feels good.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You know, we've...
How many times have we been down this road now?
How many, like...
I guess we just accept that there's a massive population that's just going to do this.
And...
unidentified
Let's all do our best, I suppose.
jordan holmes
That's what I can say.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Don't hand Alex a gift-wrapped propaganda narrative.
jordan holmes
It would be a smart idea.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex discusses how the globalists realized that we were weak, right?
And that's why they're doing this.
And this is it, man.
This is the death blow.
alex jones
All of the following political correctness has made the establishment believe that you are done.
The oven goes ding, and the goose is cooked.
I don't believe that.
I don't think that.
But they are going to make their full death blow move now.
And it doesn't just include attempts to kill the president.
It doesn't just...
No, no, no.
They want to kill the whole thing and break our morale, and I know how they're going to do it.
dan friesen
So, that's exciting.
Alex knows how they're going to do it.
jordan holmes
Alright, I'm excited.
Let's see.
dan friesen
See if we find out by the end of this fucking episode.
jordan holmes
I think we will.
dan friesen
Well, I think this is probably part of it, or at least a preamble, and that is that in order to really get, you know, through all this, to know what's coming, to know what you gotta do, you have to understand that your enemies are evil.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna still say it's the murder hornets, right?
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Your enemies.
You have to recognize that they're not human.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but murder hornets are my enemy, and they're not human.
dan friesen
If you want to start a campaign against the murder hornets, that is your business.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm going to do.
dan friesen
I'm going to stay out of it.
Murder hornets, I'm cool.
unidentified
I'm cool.
dan friesen
It's just him.
It's Jordan.
alex jones
You think Jack Dorsey's really a little wimp with a little beard and he acts all effeminate?
That's a cover.
These are scientifically evil people committed to absolute destruction.
And as soon as you wake up to that, you'll be able to defeat them.
But until you realize you're dealing with homicidal criminals, you don't have a damn hope.
Okay, so that's all coming up.
And I'm just going to throw this out here because it's so critical as well.
As you've noticed, we've been a little busy.
And so I have not come up with new specials.
So I just doubled down because things are so insane.
I just have a gut-level feeling things are going to get so bad.
I'm just emptying out our warehouses.
dan friesen
That means it's time to sell.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There are things going on in the world.
I'm getting people really riled up.
This is a globalist big move.
I know I can move some product.
Let's get some good sales going.
Also, just the fucking disgracefulness of like, you have to recognize that your enemies are evil and then you can win.
Also, by the way, I gotta tell you.
I got pills.
jordan holmes
Well, you gotta get those pills out of there.
That's fucking bullshit.
You gotta get those pills out of there so he can fight the evil enemies.
dan friesen
You cannot fight globalists without an empty warehouse.
How many times do I have to tell you this?
jordan holmes
That's where you're gonna put them!
You get them all in the empty warehouse.
dan friesen
You build a boxing ring in the empty warehouse.
jordan holmes
You build a boxing ring in there?
Okay, alright.
You pugilist your way into the scientifically science evil.
dan friesen
So Alex has a big story about coronavirus, COVID-19, and he gets to it in his next clip.
alex jones
Where should we start?
Because I'm doing the best I can.
Let me just succinctly tell you what is coming up.
The German Interior Ministry had a panel of top scientists that looked at COVID-19 in the last three months, and they came out and said it is a total hoax that all the normal seasonal deaths from other things have been attributed to it.
And that it's just a cold virus and that it's destroyed civilization and society and that it was, quote, a false alarm.
A global false alarm is what the report says.
dan friesen
So there is an alleged leaked report that a German official released recently that says that the fear of COVID-19 might have been overstated.
But Alex is really exaggerating what the report says.
According to articles I can find about it.
And honestly, I can't find coverage of this alleged leak on any website that looks reputable at all.
And none of them even link to the actual supposed leaked reports.
I have no idea about this.
I have no idea if this is a real thing, so it's kind of tough for me to respond.
Presumably, I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and assume it's not made up entirely.
So assuming that it is a real thing, I can't read it.
I haven't found any website that actually hosted it, so I don't know.
I'm going to go ahead and err on the side of like...
Not taking Alex's word on this?
jordan holmes
Here's my evidence.
No scientific report.
I think I know a bunch of stuff about COVID.
I've read a lot of stuff.
But no matter how many scientific reports I read, none of them agree with my conclusions 100%.
I'm going to get something wrong.
It's very odd for a scientific report to agree with every narrative that Alex puts forth.
There should be at least one where it's like...
Well, it turns out it was natural.
dan friesen
That's the exaggeration aspect.
jordan holmes
You know, something would be off if it was real.
dan friesen
Alex has read the headline.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And all the stuff where it agrees with all of his narratives, that's his made-up story about the stories about this alleged leaked document.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
We'll check back in on this.
I'll loop back and see if I can find it eventually, but I have no idea.
It's a big thing, and Alex is using it as proof that everything about coronavirus is a big hoax.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
So, great.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
I don't know if you know this.
jordan holmes
I do.
dan friesen
Antifa group.
jordan holmes
Still not.
Still not.
dan friesen
Further.
They have a headquarters.
jordan holmes
Where?
Where is their headquarters?
What, Silicon Valley?
dan friesen
Alex might not tell you, but he does tell you that there is one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So Trump doesn't even need to declare Antifa a terrorist group.
Sure, go ahead.
Because they're politically trying to shut down speech.
They're politically trying to intimidate people.
They attack folks physically.
They've done nothing to them.
That's the definition of a terror group.
Threatening violence or carrying out violence.
For a political or economic gain.
They are the definition of it.
And they wear Cobra Commander outfits.
They're terrorists.
jordan holmes
By your definition, so are the cops.
alex jones
But under racketeering, under organized crime, they are out there coordinating with their radios.
They have HQs.
They're commanded by Alexander Soros on record.
We got the secret documents two years ago.
And all hell broke loose.
Soros financing lawsuits against us since then.
Well, guess what?
You old Nazi.
We beat Hitler and we're going to beat you.
dan friesen
I just can't stress this enough.
If Alex had anything better, he wouldn't constantly bring up these stupid documents.
jordan holmes
No, of course.
dan friesen
It's a symbol of how weak his arguments are that he has to constantly fall back on them.
unidentified
Like, they have the headquarters, they communicate by radios, and they're commanded by Alexander Soros based on some dumb shit I found on 4chan.
dan friesen
He might as well just be some idiot 14-year-old telling you about what he's read on a blog.
Some sort of message board nonsense.
jordan holmes
Fucking radio.
Breaker, breaker, Antifa 10. Where are we going to start our fire tonight?
Also, let's organize politically.
dan friesen
Hey, rubber duck.
Got some smokies coming through.
jordan holmes
Antifa's famous for organizing politically.
They're really a get-out-the-vote organization.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we get to talking a little bit more about these documents here.
It just constantly brings this back up over and over again.
alex jones
Anybody wants to read the documents?
2015, Obama planned martial law in Maryland.
Antifa was working with the police captains to order the police to stand down and let them loot and attack in a hope that black Marylanders, Baltimoreans, and others would riot, triggering a nationwide uprising.
And that's why Democrat mayors and governors are promoting it and saying it's good and endorsing it, because that's what they want.
dan friesen
So, Democrat governors and mayors are endorsing everything that's going on, which I don't know if I necessarily see, but even if they did, that would have to mean they work for Alexander Soros.
What's going on here?
jordan holmes
Nothing says endorsement more than let's call in the National Guard.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, let's get armed troops everywhere.
I need Humvees armored.
I need those down there because I really endorse the message of these protests, you know?
dan friesen
Setting absurd curfews.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want military-grade weapons being pointed at the citizens of my state because I support them.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems a little convoluted.
jordan holmes
It does.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex says that it's time.
I'm going to get down to it eventually and break down what's coming next.
alex jones
I'm really controlling myself because in the last segment of this hour, I'm going to be able to do this.
I am going to...
unidentified
...finish this sentence.
alex jones
...lay out the big master plan and what's coming next, because we can analyze the riots and the looting, and it's very interesting, and it's very frightening, and it's very concerning.
We can argue that all day long, and we're going to cover that.
Because, hell, I have to.
If they're successful saying I'm burning down homeless camps, I'm even in more trouble.
That's all over the news right now, that we went and burned down a homeless camp.
The Democrats did it.
We shot video of it, so we're guilty.
So don't worry.
I'm going to cover that some next hour so I can show you what really went on.
dan friesen
It wasn't all over the news.
It was on Twitter.
People were tweeting stuff about that irresponsibly.
But it wasn't all over the news.
And also, the Democrats didn't do anything.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
That was Nancy Pelosi in those videos personally doing that.
dan friesen
I could see that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and she lit it up with her wads of cash.
dan friesen
That's also what she did.
I could see that.
This is all just such nonsense.
So Alex is getting ready to head to the hills, though, because this is starting to get to worry in him a little bit.
alex jones
I am having to prepare evacuation, okay?
And I don't do this because I want to run.
But if Americans are so soft and so stupid...
That we can't stop this, that's pure evil, then we deserve what happens to us and we can't be helped.
And the very same globalists that wrecked and robbed Russia in 1917 are going to have their way with us in a way you've never imagined.
So the party's over, folks, unless the globalists are decapitated.
And I'm not the one that's going to do that and citizens shouldn't do that.
But now is the time, the house of war.
We need Trump decisively in the military to take action now.
dan friesen
Anybody who was born in 1917 is 103 right now.
jordan holmes
And they got him.
dan friesen
Don't think the same globalists.
jordan holmes
No, don't you remember?
That senator came out and he said, or the lieutenant governor said that he wanted the elderly to sacrifice themselves for the economy.
This is the greatest sacrifice.
103 years old.
dan friesen
I don't know about this.
jordan holmes
What do you got to lose?
dan friesen
So yeah, that's a little silly.
And then the other thing that's weird there is at the end, Alex says we're in the house of war.
And if you listen to Alex's show, that expression has a very specific use.
jordan holmes
It's a temple to Aries.
dan friesen
No, although...
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
No, although I like it.
I like mythology.
No, it's specifically used to talk about Islam.
It's used to say that Muslims believe that any Muslim-controlled territory is the house of peace, and then everywhere else is the house of war, so they can cause attacks and all that stuff.
a horrible misunderstanding of something that some dude told him at Trump's inauguration which I have seen the video of the guy tell him this Yeah.
Like, he's saying that terrorist acts...
jordan holmes
I don't understand how you can view the only way we win is to decapitate the globalists, but I don't want to do that, and neither should you, as anything other than, well, we should be killing them.
dan friesen
He's dancing all on that line.
jordan holmes
We should be killing them, and I'm not endorsing killing them, but I'm saying that the only way to win, so if you want to win, which I think you do, Right.
dan friesen
I mean, he still keeps just saying Trump's got to get the military to do it, which still he should be against based on his whole career.
So, you know, preparing to evacuate is one thing, and that's pretty extreme.
This next clip really fucked me up a little bit.
He's really weird.
alex jones
And it's because they're a bunch of psychopaths that are totally cold-blooded.
dan friesen
Globalists, that is.
alex jones
And they all get together in rooms and convince each other that what they're doing is normal or okay.
Obviously, it's going to blow up in their face.
Obviously, they're all going to be destroyed.
But in the process, we're probably going to end up having major power outages, starvation, mass riots.
Nuclear war is on the table.
I mean...
jordan holmes
Sending the military into the states is on the table?
alex jones
I'm pretty mentally tough, okay?
And I'm literally looking at my children every day and already saying bye-bye to them and just praying with them and just...
That's how bad this is, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
That's so fucked up.
Are you talking on air about saying goodbye to your kids?
jordan holmes
What the fuck are you doing, man?
Every morning at around 3 a.m., I just kick down my daughter's door and I say, Look!
Goodbye!
unidentified
If I don't see you when you wake up, pray my lord the soul to take!
dan friesen
Alex, this is either really childish shit and you're presenting a dumb face to your audience of severity that you're experiencing, or you're fucking these kids up and you gotta stop that stuff.
alex jones
You're a dick!
Shut up, Alex.
unidentified
Shut the fuck up.
God damn it!
dan friesen
God damn it!
jordan holmes
We cannot get you a soundboard.
You are abusive of that power.
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
jordan holmes
I love that.
I love the first thing you said.
Wait, wait.
dan friesen
What did you say to me?
What did you say to me?
Jordan?
jordan holmes
Not doing this.
dan friesen
What did you say?
unidentified
I'm not doing this.
dan friesen
What did you say about my use of a soundboard?
unidentified
I'm not participating in this.
dan friesen
Did you say that I'm abusive about it?
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
You're a jerk!
dan friesen
Alex has a point.
When he's right, he's right.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
We can't.
We can't do this.
unidentified
This is the end.
jordan holmes
I'm literally preparing to evacuate from this show.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
No.
What are you going to say?
I'm not trying to set you up.
Don't worry.
jordan holmes
No, I just like the idea that globalists all get into a room together and try and convince each other what they're doing is okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're good, man.
jordan holmes
Like, everybody's around a circle.
We're all like, should we start a nuclear war?
I think that might be a bad thing.
No, Terry, Terry, it is a good thing.
dan friesen
I didn't realize the globalists were basically a support group.
jordan holmes
It's a group therapy session every time.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
So Alex gets to talking about how Trump had to go hide in a bunker.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he just sort of, it's touch and go.
It's touch and go here.
Don't dwell on that story too much.
jordan holmes
No, not a good idea.
alex jones
Drudge has the headline, Trump hides in bunker as protest rage.
That's the message the left's putting out to go attack Trump's hiding in a bunker.
No, that's where Trump directs the COG response.
Let's go back to that headline.
Calls governors weak, fools, and jerks.
And now we need slave reparations, and now we have white people in Washington State and other areas, the police department, kneeling to black people and apologizing for being white.
That's pure communism.
dan friesen
That's amazing.
jordan holmes
We didn't really focus on him being in the bunker too long.
dan friesen
No, no, just touch on that.
Don't talk too much about his abusive call with the governors.
jordan holmes
Don't worry about it.
dan friesen
Because you love states' rights.
So don't talk about that at all.
jordan holmes
I think the president should absolutely grab all the governors on a group phone call and berate and abuse them.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, it sounds constitutional.
jordan holmes
Yeah, states' rights.
dan friesen
And yeah, so then at the end there he's mad that the police folks did photo ops where they kneeled.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, honestly, based on what happened next, I'm a little mad that they did those photo ops.
dan friesen
Well, sure, you both could be mad, but it seems like for different reasons.
Yours is the hypocrisy of the later gas, tear gas, and what have you, the macing of people.
Alex, he just is a racist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There are more complicated feelings, I hope, on my side.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's a top story on Infowars here on Monday, and I don't know.
I don't think it's good.
alex jones
It's the top story on the site.
We're going to pull that up, and we're going to put that on screen for TV viewers and radio listeners here in just a moment.
Video.
George Floyd tried to hide white powder during arrest.
This bombshell reveal corroborates coroner's report of Floyd dying of a heart attack and not asphyxiation and having a panic attack that caused him to die.
dan friesen
First of all, who cares about that last part?
jordan holmes
Who cares?
I don't care about any of what he said.
dan friesen
So I went and I watched the video on Infowars and it's inconclusive at best.
It looks like it's possible that he had a baggie of something in his hands, but Alex can't prove what that is.
And the bigger picture is, like I said, it doesn't matter.
There's still no reason why Floyd should have been subjected to the treatment he was subjected to by the police, even if he had a small amount of cocaine on him.
jordan holmes
I accept no argument that is essentially...
It's not fine for the police to kill somebody, but it's more fine for them to kill me.
Or this person.
dan friesen
Because they had cocaine on them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it's not more fine.
There's no more fine.
dan friesen
I've had many friends who could have easily been caught with some cocaine on them, and I don't think the police are justified in killing them.
Why not treat everybody the same way?
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
Alex is trying to use this to argue that Floyd wasn't killed by the officer, but he had a heart attack from being on cocaine.
But even if he had cocaine in his hands, that doesn't mean he was on it or it was in his system or that he had a heart attack, any of that stuff.
He's just drawing conclusions that don't match.
Further, neither of the preliminary autopsies that have come out have proven that he had drugs in his system at this point.
Later, there will be one that says that he had traces of fentanyl in his system.
And so that is true later.
But at this point, the two preliminary autopsies that have come out had not specified any evidence.
So at the point also that Alex is claiming that Floyd dropped this cocaine, he was already, you know, basically under police custody.
They would go on to kill him, and at that point, this is a huge crime scene, you know?
This is a big crime scene.
I have absolutely zero doubt that if George Floyd had dropped cocaine, that it would have been found, and it would have been a part of the police report, looking to find any sort of extenuating circumstances that could justify the police's actions.
It's really inappropriate for Alex to jump to conclusions just based on something one of his interns saw in a video.
Because here's the reality.
Floyd was wearing a sleeveless shirt, and at no point does he go into his pockets.
If you read the police report, it makes no sense that this baggie could have been in his hand the whole time.
From the report, quote, As Officer Lane began speaking with Mr. Floyd, he pulled a gun out and pointed it at Mr. Floyd's open window and directed Mr. Floyd to show his hands.
It seems like in the process of showing his hands, this would have been revealed.
It doesn't seem likely.
Here's what I think the video shows, and I should tell you I can't prove this, but it's a possible explanation.
Right before this supposed baggie of white powder appears to drop out of Floyd's hand, he's backed against the wall by police and slid down into a sitting position.
He's coming down this wall, hands behind his back.
You can clearly see that this wall that he's sliding down is painted white, with some of the paint missing from the side panel, clearly visible in the video shot.
I think it's entirely possible that as he was being slid into a sitting position, his arms and back scraped against the wall, and what Alex is calling a bag of white powder is really just a paint chip.
I don't know that, but it's a possible explanation for the phenomenon that Alex is showing in this video.
jordan holmes
Sure, I just don't care.
It shows them beating him in the cop car and then murdering him.
dan friesen
I don't know what the situation is with this little white thing, but my explanation is possible.
I don't know.
What I can say with certainty is that Alex cannot prove that this is a bag of white powder, yet he's reporting it as definitive.
He isn't reporting that this, quote, appears to be a bag of white powder.
On his website, it says literally, quote, he clearly drops a bag of white powder.
This is not...
This isn't something that they can report.
This is a guess that they're making.
jordan holmes
This is a crime.
dan friesen
Well, it should be, yeah.
I can't definitively say what the video shows, but I can say that Alex is reporting very irresponsibly here because he's desperate to tarnish the victim of police violence because it works for his narrative.
Alex discusses more stuff about George Floyd, and again, he's doing this with the hyper-intention of trying to smear him.
alex jones
But this George Floyd...
Tried to hide white powder during arrest.
I've gone and watched the porno movie he's in.
And I've gone and researched him.
And, you know, he was bombed out of his brain all the time on drugs and alcohol.
dan friesen
I wonder what kind of research Alex did about George Floyd.
I'm curious how he missed the article in Christianity Today titled, quote, George Floyd left a gospel legacy in Houston.
Just a small walk through that memorial article would have told Alex that Floyd had been involved in ministry in Houston before, quote, moving to Minneapolis for a job interview through a Christian work program.
One of the people who worked with him at the church in Houston said, quote, the things that he would say to young men always reference that God trumps street culture.
I think he wanted to see young men put guns down and have Jesus instead of the streets.
Another fellow churchgoer said, quote, His faith was a heart for the third ward that was radically changed by the gospel, and his mission was empowering other believers to be able to come in and push that gospel forth.
I would assume that Alex has just read various tweets from racists and decided that counts as research.
He's invested in telling this story one particular way, and it's important to recognize that and recognize why.
unidentified
Yeah, it's just he's black.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, obviously.
jordan holmes
The end.
You know, there should be more analysis.
There should be more something.
There should be more something.
But it's just, he is black.
dan friesen
I mean, there might be more analysis if we hadn't done this a lot already.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, that's possible.
dan friesen
If it wasn't old hat to be like, yes, Alex is a big white identity guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex pretends that, like, hey man, I knew this was all coming.
I knew it.
alex jones
I have looked at all the angles of this.
And we've asked, what comes after Russiagate hoax?
What comes after Ukraine hoax?
What comes after all the Kavanaugh Me Too hoax?
And the answer is...
jordan holmes
A totalitarian regime.
Oh, sorry.
alex jones
Antifa and Soros and all of them in full-page ads have told us the plan.
dan friesen
You can't prove any of that.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So I can't deny that Alex has been saying that unrest might be coming, and he does like to scare his audience with images of race wars pretty regularly, but it would be unfair to say that this has been a solid prediction.
One of the things that Alex does is make tons and tons of predictions, which is an intentional strategy that he employs to hopefully be right about one of them.
I can't count the number of times he's said that he knows the globalists are going to try to kill Trump within the next week or two.
These predictions have never come true, but his audience is trained to ignore those failed predictions and only focus on vague stuff he can pretend he was accurate about.
In the midst of the coronavirus stuff, Alex did talk about social unrest, but it was mostly about financial concerns related to the lockdown.
It didn't come in the form of protests against systemic police violence and police non-responsiveness to violence against non-white persons.
Alex was kind of in the mode of saying that the lockdown was going to crush the economy and then everyone would be starving and that would cause upheaval, as he discussed when he ranted about eating his neighbors.
That prediction was literally nothing like we're seeing happening right now, so even if he can massage things for his audience to make it look prophetic, he was not.
jordan holmes
It'd be like if they interviewed Charles Manson and he was like, see, I was right.
Like, fuck off.
That's not a thing.
I get it.
You said there would be a race war, but that's not...
You don't get...
dan friesen
And also, this isn't a race war.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That should be repeated over and over again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a class war.
dan friesen
So Alex's big overarching prediction, like what he was talking about, like what comes after things during the coronavirus coverage days, was that the whole coronavirus thing was a test run, and it was leading to mandatory vaccines and also another biological weapon release that would kill billions of people.
That was the primary focus of his narratives.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And before that, he was saying the globalists were going to put off a mini-nuke in Chicago over and over again.
jordan holmes
They did do that, though.
dan friesen
No, they didn't.
jordan holmes
No, are you sure?
dan friesen
No.
But because Alex rambles about bullshit pretty much every day and so much of it, he can almost certainly find some clip from the last few months of him yelling about race wars or some shit and then pretend that this was all I was saying was going to happen.
It's my prediction.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's not.
His prediction was about a medical tyranny run by Bill Gates.
Because the circumstances of the world have changed, he's retconning his predictions into being focused on all this as being what comes next.
It's all bullshit.
It's a parlor trick.
jordan holmes
It's like writing a packet for a late night show.
You gotta have 25 different predictions to make.
Put them all out on the same episode.
That way you can cut it to whenever one of them maybe happens.
dan friesen
So Alex has...
Savannah Hernandez is an incognito reporter.
Sure.
And I guess her camera person, Zach, on.
They come on to talk about the mattress burning.
And they talk about it for a long time.
jordan holmes
Going undercover to hide the fact they're naked propagandists.
Yes.
dan friesen
So they come on to talk about that.
And I'll say, if they did do it, brass balls.
Brass balls.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That's true.
dan friesen
But again, you can't put anything past Alex.
So they're on to talk about this, and who cares?
I don't really give a shit.
But Savannah does say something that I think is really troubling.
savanah hernandez
At the end of the day, if you do not resist arrest, you're not going to get killed.
unidentified
And that's a fact.
alex jones
Well, exactly.
And if the left takes over and organizes the police to come take our guns, I'll organize people and we'll fight.
They're now the enemy.
Let's get organized.
Let's boom, you know?
But it's not the cop who I hate, though.
It's the corruption giving them the illegal order.
But this was the illegal order.
Somebody called on him.
He was reportedly drunk, out of control, passing fake 20s.
They fought to get him in.
They put him down.
They put their knee on him.
A combination of drugs and that killed him, and now we've got riots all over the country.
dan friesen
So I don't know how it makes sense for someone at Infowars, a hard...
Libertarian-leaning, supposedly, Ron Paul-style conservative outlet.
Just be like, hey, if you don't fight back with the cops, you're not going to get killed.
Mr. Police State is allowing one of his reporters and saying, yeah, absolutely.
After she says, if you don't resist arrest, if you just submit to the authority, you're not going to get killed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the libertarian position.
Submit to authority.
dan friesen
I don't think it's in line with that Alex is...
jordan holmes
No!
That's why Bill Cooper died, because he was submitting to authority too much.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah.
So, this is a pretty standard refrain that you hear from racists, arguing that black people wouldn't get killed if they would just resist the police.
It's a standard trick that's used to justify the brand of state-backed violence they support.
While keeping intact their complaints about the imaginary state violence they're against, like fears about gun regulations and shit.
It's all bullshit.
One of the other cases that comes up very often in relation to the current protests is the killing of Breonna Taylor.
Taylor was killed in her home after police executed a no-knock search warrant because they thought that a suspected drug dealer kept drugs and money in that home.
That dude did not live there, and he'd already been arrested, but the cops for some reason felt it important to do a no-knock, which is really dangerous.
It was about 12.40 at night, so Breonna's boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, thought that they were home invaders, so he pulled out a gun and fired one shot.
Police returned a ton of fire, killing Taylor and sending bullets into the next home, risking hitting a pregnant woman and a five-year-old child.
Kenneth Walker legally owned his firearm, and this is a person whose home had been invaded, so someone like Alex should firmly believe that he has every right to protect himself in those circumstances.
So what about that, Savannah?
How did Breonna Taylor act that led to her death?
If Savannah's argument is that if you don't resist arrest, you won't be killed, I flatly reject that argument.
There are far too many cases that serve as counterexamples, and all Savannah is doing here is joining the Infowars game of trying to make non-white people's murders their own fault, which is bullshit, and an expression of gross racism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, frankly, we're even past that whole, like, I don't support what they did, I don't think that it's right, I don't think they should have done that, and we're right into...
Well, if he wasn't resisting arrest, he wouldn't have died.
It's his fault.
I think they're even doing the right thing by doing what they're doing.
He was resisting arrest.
So frankly, he should have died.
dan friesen
She's not as good at this.
jordan holmes
No, she's basically saying that it's okay for the cops to murder people.
If they're at all resisting arrest.
Or not.
dan friesen
I think it'd take probably a fairly specific type of person to start working at InfoWars late in the game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
I think that there's a number of people who maybe have been there for like 15 years or so and maybe they gradually, like the water boiled while they were in it and they're the lobsters who didn't realize it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But like to...
Be gravitating towards it, particularly after 2015, is weird.
And I think you have to be kind of a pretty angry, pretty violent person.
I can't imagine anybody thinking they're a legitimate or credible outlet or that they're anything other than a means to express hate.
jordan holmes
And a Trump propaganda network.
dan friesen
Yeah, you would know that going in.
And if you still decide to go in, it says a lot about you.
So, after this, Alex has Owen Schroyer and a guy who owns a gun shop on, and I just turned it off.
I just don't care.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Great.
Good work, guys.
dan friesen
So, we get here on the second, on Tuesday, and we get a little bit of an update on this here bricks story about Soros and the forklift.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we've now discovered who is delivering bricks to more than 20 cities.
It's Acme Brick, owned by Berkshire Hathaway and Bill Gates.
Can't make that up.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
Yes, you can!
dan friesen
If I had to guess what's going on here, some dumb-dumb online found a brick company to link to traditional globalist boogeymen, and now Alex is reporting that they're behind the existence of bricks at protests.
Actually, that is what's happening.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Acme Brick dates back to before 1900, and is a pretty big name in the world of bricks.
jordan holmes
As well as comical explosives.
dan friesen
True.
In 1968, they changed their name to First Worth Corporation and then merged with two other companies, the Justin Companies from Fort Worth, Texas, and Louisiana Concrete Products.
In 1972, they formally changed their name to Justin Industries Incorporated.
Underneath this umbrella, there are a bunch of subsidiary businesses, including Acme Brick, as well as Featherlight Building Products and Justin Boot Company.
In the year 2000, Berkshire Hathaway acquired Justin Industries, which includes all those subsidiary businesses.
Alex seems to be fucking up the whole thing though, because Bill Gates isn't the guy you talk about with Berkshire Hathaway.
That's the ice cream lover himself, Warren Buffett.
Bill Gates is on the board of Berkshire Hathaway, primarily involved with things involving charitable initiatives, but he barely has any stock compared to Buffett.
Warren Buffett is the guy who you point fingers at with Berkshire Hathaway.
And this is a lazy attempt for Alex to make Bill Gates connect to your social unrest narratives.
jordan holmes
You are missing it.
Bill Gates is on the board as the head of subterfuge.
dan friesen
This just isn't going to play, man.
You've just got to stick with Soros.
I don't know what he's trying to do.
So Alex is taking this from a video that was on Twitter.
It was posted by a woman named Elise Kane.
It's just her talking to her camera and saying that Acme Brick is dropping off Bricks and that she even connects Berkshire Hathaway and Bill Gates.
It's very clear that this is his source, particularly considering this video has over 220,000 views and almost 11,000 retweets.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
It was making the round.
jordan holmes
There's nothing I believe more than a random woman standing in front of Bricks saying that it's Berkshire Hathaway.
She's not even standing in front of Bricks.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Okay, great.
dan friesen
Elise's bio reads, quote, researcher and truth bomber who questions everything.
jordan holmes
Okay, disagree.
I'm out.
I'm out.
Your video's bullshit.
dan friesen
Hashtag woke.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Hashtag the great awakening.
jordan holmes
Go home.
dan friesen
Hashtag where we go.
Go one, we go all.
jordan holmes
No, that's probably not even close to true.
dan friesen
She's a huge QAnon weirdo.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In the past weeks, she's posted clearly fake Craigslist posts that are about recruiting crisis actors, tons of stuff about Plandemic, and one particularly anti-Semitic post about how Mel Gibson, quote, tried to expose the scum in 2017.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
the tweet that she's commenting on there is about how Gibson said that, quote, Hollywood is a den of parasites who feast on the blood of kids, which sounds a whole lot like a blood libel kind of thing, particularly coming from Mel Gibson, considering that his dad is a Holocaust denier, and in 2006 when he got arrested for drunk driving, This was part of the police report.
jordan holmes
Hey, Braveheart's a Pez dispenser.
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
Quote, Gibson almost continually threatened me, saying he, quote, owns Malibu and will spend all his money to, quote, get even with me.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Gibson blurted out a barrage of anti-Semitic remarks about, quote, profanity-redacted Jews.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Gibson yelled out, quote, the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.
Gibson then asked, quote, are you a Jew?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's Mel Gibson.
When he's saying stuff about this group of people involved drinking children's blood...
jordan holmes
I believe he's talking about Jews, yes.
dan friesen
You might want to question what kind of information you're passing along.
jordan holmes
If you were questioning everything, maybe that's something that you would do.
dan friesen
Yeah, just question that.
jordan holmes
You would think.
unidentified
Elise.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, anyway, this video is just an idiot QAnon weirdo asserting something without proving it in any way, and Alex is just repeating it on air.
I feel like Berkshire Hathaway and Acme Brick could have grounds for a legal suit against Alex.
He's claiming they're involved in a plan to cause this property damage, and that's definitely meant to defame them and hurt their business.
So, if they'd like to, I think they should...
Fucking sue him for all the ice cream in the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and as we all know, murder hornet hives are made of bricks.
It's totally naturally occurring.
This is a sign.
dan friesen
But here's the thing that connects this kind of like with Sandy Hook stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is that when questioned about why he reported things as fact and proven...
When he's in those depositions, he points to this bullshit that he found, and he's like, well, they said it.
If he was asked to prove this Acme Brick thing, all he could do is point to this QAnon weirdo's video.
And then it would be like, that's what you're taking this from?
That's the level of work you do?
jordan holmes
That's how it works.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that would be the benefit of suing him.
And if I were Warren Buffett, I would do it just for that deposition.
jordan holmes
It's not libel if somebody else says it and then I report it as fact.
That's not how it works, Dan.
They're the ones who are guilty.
dan friesen
I'm not sitting here particularly concerned about Warren Buffett or Berkshire Hathaway's reputation or anything.
I'm just saying that, like, really forcing Alex to admit, like, I just took a fucking QAnon Twitter.
I reported it as fact.
jordan holmes
Somebody just do it.
Somebody just finally fucking do it.
dan friesen
So also, there was a new video that was going around which is purporting to show police with a truck full of bricks that's then meant to prove that they were leaving the bricks somewhere strategically in order for protesters to throw them and to justify a violent police response.
Presumably they're working for Soros if you're on the right, or they're just cops if you're not.
I'm not going to say that it's impossible that there are some instances of police trying to facilitate situations where they could get people to respond violently or rationalize themselves.
jordan holmes
Infiltrators, the FBI, everybody.
Department of Homeland Security.
dan friesen
I'm not saying at all that that doesn't happen.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But this video doesn't prove anything.
And honestly, it's been pretty sad seeing it get passed around by people I've seen retweeted.
The tweet that everyone was retweeting was from an account named Alexander Parker, followed by three stars, which is a dead giveaway that this is a QAnon account.
This is further established by them tagging praying a medic in the tweet, who is a huge QAnon booster.
Also tagged in the tweet is an account called...
Punish Dem 1776, which speaks for itself.
Also, their bio has where we go one, we go all in it.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Within the last day, Alexander Parker has retweeted Jack Posobiec multiple times, and also a QAnon image of Trump walking out of the White House with a sword in his hand and angel wings drawn on him.
jordan holmes
Great, great.
We're all doing great.
dan friesen
this video doesn't show anything conclusive and it's being spread by q anon accounts so it might be wise to pump the brakes on going all in on it just because it has the optics of confirming the story you want to be true and look it might be the case that these cops in boston were planting bricks i have no idea but that video does not show that there are plenty of other explanations for what could be going on in that video that are just being ignored and i don't think that's cool i think
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's just so much frustration and fury and confusion and nobody knows what the hell is going on.
I understand why you can get caught up in that.
It's very easy.
We saw it happen over and over and over again.
We saw Alex stoke it immediately after the Boston bombing because we didn't know.
So many people shared pictures of other people's faces who just said, hey, these are the guys.
So many times we've shared that.
It's just so hard.
I understand because restraint now seems fucking insane.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
The idea of like, hey, we'll hold off until we figure this out.
I understand that impulse, but direct it towards something else, not Twitter.
That would be a great tweet.
Yeah.
My hypocritical dumb shit.
dan friesen
I just think that there's something about the immediacy of social media that allows everyone to be really fucking sloppy with it.
And I would ask people to be a little bit more...
Cautious.
Just be more careful.
If you're putting up a video that has the caption, police in Boston caught leaving bricks as a setup, watch the video.
And if it doesn't show that, don't pass it along.
I can't understand this.
I don't know if it's...
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
I grew up on social media.
I understand how social media works.
I don't understand how people can't get over this.
jordan holmes
Well, in all the terms of service ones that you click okay to, it's not like any of them say you should use social media responsibly.
If they just put it in those terms of service, I'm sure we would all read all the way down.
That's the trick.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a good point.
All right.
jordan holmes
It's our fault.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex talks about how he's only going out armed now.
He's always got to go on him.
alex jones
And then...
dan friesen
I just, I found this...
jordan holmes
Because he doesn't want to escalate anything.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He's a de-escalation guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And then what comes up at the end of this, I just found, like, so gross.
alex jones
But I will tell everybody now, you should not be out after dart in any major urban area, and you should be packing, and you should be locking your doors, and you should be watching your ass.
unidentified
Because...
jordan holmes
Passover's coming?
alex jones
I just remember before I went live that my son was going to visit my parents, and there was looters in the store attacking people, and he had to...
dan friesen
So Alex is using video, and he puts it out.
I've seen it.
Like the video of his son beating up a guy at like a 7-Eleven.
jordan holmes
That's real?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's really messed up.
I don't even know what to say about it.
jordan holmes
Goddamn!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
dan friesen
Yep.
Pretty bad.
jordan holmes
I mean, arrest him?
That's assault?
If you hate looters, then you hate that guy.
dan friesen
Well, presumably this guy was allegedly stealing stuff from the store that Alex's son happened to be in, so he was trying to subdue him.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
If you watch the video, he punches him more times than he needs to, but...
Whatever.
Jesus Christ.
I'm very conflicted about it.
This shouldn't be content on his show.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's incentivizing something very negative.
jordan holmes
You definitely shouldn't be fucking proud of it.
Look at my son committing a crime.
dan friesen
He is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course he is.
dan friesen
Later, he does tell his...
Spoiler alert.
Rex shows up on the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
To talk about how he's a fucking superhuman hero.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And Alex's big complaint is you should have given him an uppercut.
Instead of those hooks.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, that's the first time Rex has gotten his dad's approval and it's really sad.
That's really fucking sad.
dan friesen
I probably got some approval for interviewing Gavin McGinnis.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fair.
Hey, remember when you talked about tits?
unidentified
Although that video got taken down from banned.video!
dan friesen
They were too embarrassed by it.
They took it down.
jordan holmes
It got banned.
It got shadow banned.
dan friesen
I don't know if we need Alex's son talking to a gang leader about floppy titties.
jordan holmes
I think that's not a good look.
I think that's not a good look.
Tip of the spear, guys.
Tip of the spear.
dan friesen
So we get now to this other medical report that came out by this point on June 2nd.
And here's Alex talking about it.
alex jones
They've now come up with a medical exam in a report that he had enough fentanyl in his system to kill four or five people.
And he was resisting and he was out of control and the police were scared and didn't pay attention and put their knee on his neck and he had a heart attack and died.
It's not defending what the cop did.
It's not about that.
dan friesen
So it is.
jordan holmes
Sounds like it is.
Exactly like that.
That's literally what you just did.
dan friesen
So the Hennepin County Medical Examiner has released a report that said that Floyd has had, quote, traces of fentanyl and methamphetamine use in his system.
This is pretty imprecise, but you can see how Alex is taking that information and embellishing it into him having enough fentanyl in him to kill four or five people.
Whether he was on drugs or not, whether he had drugs on him or not, all of it is kind of irrelevant to the larger issue and that is that neither of those things make his death okay.
All of this stuff Alex is doing is an attempt to make his death okay because if he's forced to get as mad about this man being murdered by the police as he might be if, I don't know, a state required background checks for private sales of guns, that would have a cascading effect and all of his narratives would basically fall apart because they're all based on white.
jordan holmes
White superiority.
dan friesen
White identity.
Fears around whiteness.
And once he starts to give ground to that, it will have a domino effect.
So, in this next clip, Alex complains, you know, certainly when there were businesses having stuff stolen from it, the refrain was, think of the businesses.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And now, Alex...
jordan holmes
That's the same thing that happens with COVID.
dan friesen
And now, Alex is saying...
Won't you think of the police?
alex jones
There have been cops, more than 10 police shot in the last 24 hours.
I can't find one of their names because the media will not humanize them.
And it's not about worshipping police.
It's about worshipping reality.
Truth.
There's a cop in a coma dying in Vegas right now.
Randomly shot in the head.
They won't show him.
They won't say his name because they will not humanize people.
But we all know George Floyd's name.
dan friesen
I think there's probably a reason why they're not releasing names.
It doesn't have anything to do with a desire not to humanize folks.
Anyway, there are four cops that were shot in St. Louis on Monday night.
Three were hit in the foot or leg and the fourth was shot in the arm and all are recovering.
As of the time of this recording, I can find no information on who shot them, so I have no idea if it was people associated with the protests or not.
In Las Vegas, a cop was shot and killed, and that is not good.
The shooter was arrested and is in custody, but there's no information I can find about the perpetrator as of the time of recording.
However, that night, Las Vegas police also shot and killed someone at a protest who they said was reaching for a firearm.
I don't know what the reality of that story is, but that's absent from Alex's coverage.
Also, since our last episode, Louisville police shot and killed barbecue restaurant owner David McCaddy, which led to the police chief being fired.
I'm not gonna sit here and justify indiscriminately firing guns at police, but I am going to say that if you're gonna cover that story, it's your responsibility to also point out that there is a high level of police brutality that's being documented across the country.
These aren't borderline cases either.
These are instances of people marching or congregating peacefully only to have tear gas and progressive grenades deployed on them.
jordan holmes
Sometimes fired at their faces.
unidentified
Sure!
dan friesen
Or there's videos of police throwing people to the ground unprovoked.
Or that widely spread footage of cops driving through people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you're telling the story of the police being attacked and not talking about the other side, you're explicitly trying to do PR work for the police and you're just trying to hide their actions.
That is all that's going on.
You're working for free.
For the cop PR system.
That's it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There's so much that could be done.
dan friesen
What a great pivot for Alex's career.
Mr. Anti-Police State just doing free press work for the cops.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
What a dick.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
The cops are all...
You know, cops, they're always acting in self-defense.
That's what we know.
That's what we've seen throughout these protests.
dan friesen
Sure.
I mean, that seems to be Alex's position.
That's where he's coming from.
And if you don't...
Uh, resist.
They won't kill you.
jordan holmes
I just don't understand how you...
Like, it has to be...
They're so insulated.
These people must be so insulated from viewing any of these videos.
Because you can't see.
There's so many of them.
You can't sit there.
Like, why can't you go on that fucking YouTube algorithm and see one of those and then have them recommend every single one of them until you're radicalized like fucking one of us?
It's not radicalized.
dan friesen
It strikes me that I think Alex doesn't do any work of his own.
I think that he just comes in and has the curated stuff that his crew...
If he was going around, he would be seeing tons and tons and tons of videos of police acting inappropriately.
jordan holmes
It's insane.
dan friesen
And he would have to basically just be sitting there like, well, they must have done something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Every single one of them.
dan friesen
And he'd have to keep doing that over and over and over again.
And I just find it pretty difficult to believe that someone who's yelled about the police and brutality...
For so long.
So performatively.
It's so funny that this guy who made multiple documentaries about the police state would be around when police were enacting curfews and sending in National Guard against protesters and he would be on the side of the police.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Who would have predicted?
jordan holmes
It's a real sad day.
dan friesen
But here's the thing, man.
Alex is important.
jordan holmes
No, I disagree.
Strongly.
dan friesen
He's really important.
jordan holmes
Strong disagree.
dan friesen
If you want a nice snapshot of some real narcissism, this is where you're going to find it.
alex jones
When I go out to these events, you see them, they go, we're going to take over, we're going to arrest you, we're going to kill your ass.
No, that won't be you, my friend.
You'll be the first people that are gotten rid of.
jordan holmes
What now?
alex jones
I'll be put on a private jet and flown in for an audience with his lordship.
To finally see if I'll make a deal.
I'll be served caviar while you're in a death camp, dumbass.
But then I'll say no and I'll get killed on the spot.
That's how it really works, dumbasses.
The globalists don't collect you like baseball cards.
They collect people like me like baseball cards.
They want me to join the New World Order because I have value.
You don't have value in their eyes.
You're what they call a useless eater.
A useful idiot.
You're a dumbass!
dan friesen
He said dumbass three times in less than a minute, so I don't know if he has much value.
jordan holmes
This is a family show.
dan friesen
He has value because he's psychic.
jordan holmes
It's because his vocabulary is so large.
dan friesen
He has value because he's so good at yelling, he's created a supplement line.
jordan holmes
I can't believe that he thinks that anyone will invite him to anywhere for any reason.
dan friesen
Right, right.
That's amazing.
I mean, that is a real pathetic level of self-aggrandizement.
jordan holmes
But I will actually be invited places because the future will need clowns, Dan.
And I will put makeup on my face.
Don't care.
dan friesen
I will kowtow.
jordan holmes
I will bootlick.
dan friesen
I do remember hearing some folks, like back in the stand-up days, hearing folks like maybe late at night at a party talking about how like, you know...
Well, anxiety is like real going through a hard time.
We're the people they need.
Comedy is so important.
jordan holmes
No, it is not.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm not positive.
jordan holmes
Nobody on the streets right now is like, I gotta do my type 10, guys.
I just gotta get this out of the way.
dan friesen
I'm not sure no one is.
I would bet there's enough people out there that there's someone who wants to get a set in.
So in this next clip, Alex claims that Zuckerberg works for Bill Gates.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Why not?
alex jones
Zuckerberg claimed he wasn't going to censor Trump.
Oh, now he is.
Oh, Trump's so fascist calling out the military.
Zuckerberg's going to have to shut Trump.
Oh, see, now the fight really comes down to the line.
Because who does Zuckerberg work for?
Bill Gates.
And who does Gates work for?
You bet.
Satan.
We're going to break, though.
We're going to come back.
I just want everybody to know, this is the biggest sale we've done in a year.
dan friesen
Look at this fucking dude doing a church lady.
He's throwing a church lady in there.
jordan holmes
He's throwing a Dana Carvey church lady in there.
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Maybe Satan?
jordan holmes
I like that Zuckerberg's just a...
dan friesen
That's so lame.
jordan holmes
Zuckerberg's just a contractor for Satan, though.
He works for Bill Gates, but Bill Gates is the one who works for Satan.
dan friesen
Subcontractor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
For sure.
jordan holmes
Of course.
He doesn't get any union benefits.
dan friesen
No, so stupid.
Demonstrate any of that stuff, Alex.
unidentified
You can't.
dan friesen
You're just making shit up.
jordan holmes
Demonstrate the Satan part.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex talks about Susan Rice has come out on TV and talked about how some of this stuff that's going on is out of the Russian playbook.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex has some feelings about that.
alex jones
In a bizarre claim, Barack Obama's former national security advisor, Susan Rice, said...
That the rioting and violence being witnessed in major cities is right out of the Russian playbook.
She then goes on to say that the Russians are doing this with no proof.
After locking our government up for three years with Russiagate crap, they're back.
It's not the Democrat governors.
It's not the Democrat police chiefs like Art Acevedo saying, how dare you be mean to brown people?
It's our country!
The whites are the enemy!
I mean, whoa!
In Houston.
dan friesen
So the argument that Susan Rice was making on CNN is that it was seen during her time in the Obama administration that Russian actors use social media accounts to play up both sides of divisive issues and get people fighting with each other.
She said that she had no idea if that was the case now, since, quote, I'm not reading the intelligence today or these days.
She went on to say that we cannot allow ourselves to be distracted, quote, from the real problems we have in this country that are longstanding, centuries old, and need to be addressed responsibly.
I don't particularly care about this talking point until there's a little more information behind it than this, but even Susan Rice wasn't saying these protests are the results of Russian meddling.
That's Alex's assertion, though, which is weird.
Susan Rice is a big globalist in Alex's eyes, so how does it make sense that she would be blaming Russia for the thing that her team wants to happen?
I thought that Russia was the thing that they used against things they didn't like, like Trump.
Alex's narratives make no sense, even just on a surface level.
And these couple episodes are really full of shit like this, man.
Alex seems like a guy at a coke party at 3am trying to explain to you why his band never took off.
It's a mess.
Any rope he can find, just pulling at straws.
jordan holmes
Alright, so the Russians are literally orchestrating everything then in Alex's mind.
So maybe that's why the Russians...
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
Alex doesn't think that.
He thinks that Susan Rice is saying that.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right.
But with no proof, which he's against in this circumstance.
Right.
Okay.
dan friesen
It makes no sense.
I tried to sort of diagram this, and it doesn't really work.
jordan holmes
We gotta get some more string for you.
dan friesen
Right.
So Alex is still mad that everyone's saying that he set this mattress on fire, and he's really also mad that he can't defend himself about it.
alex jones
What else is being flooded at the top of Twitter?
I sent crews downtown to burn a homeless camp.
They took a little clip of a homeless guy when everybody runs when his mattress is being burned.
Our camera people don't run because they didn't do it.
He yells and says, why are you people burning my stuff?
We have the footage of Antifa doing it.
We released hours of footage of them burning the whole camp.
That's a banned out video, but we're not allowed to put that on Twitter.
Only the lie.
That I burned a camp, and now we're getting the threats.
dan friesen
This isn't true.
There are a ton of InfoWars associates and employees who are still on Twitter, and they were posting a bunch of videos that don't really definitively prove that Alex didn't burn the mattress, but do show a longer stretch of time.
Greg Reese, Adan Salazar, Caitlin Bennett, Savannah Hernandez, and then Millie Weaver, Mark Dice, and Paul Joseph Watson, all three of those last ones are confirmed accounts.
They're all still on Twitter, and they've been posting their protestations of InfoWars and innocents.
In order to get right with the script, Twitter just needs to let Alex back on, or ban all of those people.
Because the way it is right now plays entirely into Alex's optics.
He can pretend to be totally banned and censored, while still having conduits with hundreds of thousands of followers to promote his content on the platform.
From a propaganda standpoint, what he has with Twitter right now is a win-win.
They just need to ban all those fucking people.
Anyone associated with Infowars should be gone.
jordan holmes
They basically said that that's what they were trying to do, and they still haven't done it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I can't.
dan friesen
I guess it's probably because they're technically personal accounts or whatever, you know?
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Fuck off.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems tough.
I mean, it seems like Prison Planet.
Like, that's Paul's handle.
That should be the easiest.
That's the name of one of Alex's websites.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Seems like that one, you just knock that one out.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I don't know.
jordan holmes
Where would I defend myself?
Where could I defend myself?
I need to go on some sort of media platform.
I need to have my own one because so many people are silencing my voice.
dan friesen
You're on it right now.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm doing what now?
Oh, who's watching this?
dan friesen
Good question.
A lot of white people.
So, in this next clip, we get to a guest.
Alex has a guest.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's Alan Keyes.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
That's...
Man.
dan friesen
So Alan Keyes shows up.
jordan holmes
I really don't like you continuing to say that.
dan friesen
He's coming with some bullshit today.
unidentified
The rights that's protected in the Constitution is a right that says Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble.
Peaceably.
So if people are out there and they're burning down police precincts and destroying malls and assaulting people and so forth and so on, they are not protected by the Constitution of the United States.
What they are actually doing qualifies as insurrection.
And when insurrection becomes widespread, which it has been lately, I think we need to remember that the president is the commander-in-chief.
What's he the commander-in-chief of, Alan?
He's the commander-in-chief of the Army and Navy.
People know that.
But he's also the commander-in-chief of the militia of the several states when called into the actual service of the United States.
dan friesen
So he's making an argument from a constitutional basis that Trump should allow...
jordan holmes
Death squads!
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's what he's saying.
dan friesen
Yeah, get the Oath Keepers out there.
jordan holmes
In order to call the...
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
And, I mean, sure, great.
You can say that burning a police station isn't covered by the Constitution or whatever, and maybe you could have an interesting conversation about that.
But if you're going to do that, then you need to be looking at every single instance where police acted upon peaceful...
Protesters and demonstrators and take that just as seriously as you would someone breaking a window.
And I don't see any of that coming from Alex's side at all.
And to me, that means this conversation is probably stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the constitutionalists are being real quiet.
dan friesen
Well, not necessarily.
jordan holmes
Well, not quiet.
dan friesen
They're being real loud about wanting these people shot.
jordan holmes
Yes, that is what they're being loud about.
I forgot about that part.
dan friesen
But Alex also has another solution, which is interesting.
jordan holmes
Shoot Alan Keyes?
unidentified
No, although they do get into a little bit of a fight.
dan friesen
There's a really funny moment coming up.
No, Alex has a...
I wouldn't call this a novel solution, because it's certainly something he said a fucking million times, but it would solve the situation we're in.
alex jones
How about cutting the head off the snake?
Going after the Antifa organizers, the terrorist funders, the Soros people.
I mean, that's the most logical thing.
The FBI raids five people.
They'll stop.
It's a few people.
Obama, Hillary, the globalists, they're running this.
So instead of just having a huge martial law war, why not just send in the FBI to arrest these people?
dan friesen
So listening to that clip, you just realize how fucking pathetic Alex is.
Like here he is suggesting that the solution for Trump in this situation is to raid and arrest the people running Antifa, like apparently Hillary Clinton.
In 2015 and 2016, on the campaign trail, the chant of Lock Her Up broke out at every Trump rally.
People wore Hillary for prison shirts.
The whole thing was such a force in his base that at one of the presidential debates, Trump said, quote, If I win, I'm going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation.
CNN found at least 11 instances of Trump threatening to lock Hillary up, where Trump is telling crowds at his rallies that he was going to get a special prosecutor involved.
He didn't do that, because he was never going to do that.
It was all a publicity strategy.
But here, years later, you have Alex desperately still trying to make it happen.
You have him essentially begging his god-king dictator to enact vengeance on his imagined enemy.
Just see him just begging, like, oh, please, sir, I've contradicted all my principles for you.
Won't you at least smite this evil woman?
Please, sir.
She runs Antifa.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So sad.
unidentified
So sad.
dan friesen
What a little baby.
jordan holmes
I'm sick of him saying that the president needs to send people in somewhere.
That's never good.
No one's ever been like, oh, good, the president's sending people in somewhere.
That's not good.
dan friesen
Send the military to the lockers.
They've had a long day.
That's a good place to send them.
jordan holmes
That's a great place to put in.
dan friesen
Take a load off, guys.
Send them to an island.
jordan holmes
Give them a break.
Yeah, put them all on a beach.
That'd be great.
dan friesen
So Alan Keyes, he's already said that he wants, like, militias coming in.
jordan holmes
I really think that's a bad idea.
dan friesen
I think that he thinks it's time for Trump to just start deputizing everybody.
jordan holmes
See, now that's an issue!
dan friesen
Yeah.
And then he gets mad at Alex.
unidentified
Well, see, I think bureaucracy at the moment doesn't enter into it.
What enters into it is the President of the United States appealing to the able-bodied males, 7 to 45, in different parts of the country.
Pointing, for instance, to the county sheriffs and saying, here's a responsible official, and I would...
Can I finish?
Ooh.
dan friesen
Alan Keyes does not like Alex's style of interrupting everybody all the time, and you can tell.
There's some snippy...
jordan holmes
Let me do a little Dana Carvey of my own here.
Now, can I finish?
Now, can I finish?
dan friesen
I don't blame him.
jordan holmes
Can I finish?
dan friesen
I don't blame him at all.
It's nice to see someone blame their space with Alex.
unidentified
Yeah, it is nice.
dan friesen
It's weird to hear, Alex, I kind of have to take it.
This dude ran for president.
jordan holmes
Well, if you got keys in your way, you gotta get steamrolled by him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, their conversation is pointless, and I found, I mean, beyond him just saying, like, Trump needs to posse up, it's like, okay.
Alright, guys.
unidentified
I really...
jordan holmes
I really wish that somebody would be like, okay, if I looked into a mirror, all of a sudden, magically, a swastika appears.
Like, these people are out-and-out Nazis.
That's Nazis!
That's Nazis!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's very similar to creating your own little brown shirts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm really pissed that it looks like Nazis are going to win World War II!
It's really bumming me out!
dan friesen
Well, you might be bummed out, but Alex seems pretty excited.
The interview with Alan Keyes ends, and now Alex gets into, you know, it's nice, because now I can be really mad.
alex jones
You know what?
I'll be honest with you.
I've been sick the last few months with what's happening.
But the last few days, I decided I'm not going to be sick, but I like it.
Because let me tell you, all you trendies and all you people that have lived off this freedom and pissed on it, I swear to God, before we're done, you're going to pay bad.
You want to fight?
You're going to get one.
You know you are, too, when I get my hands around your neck, Soros, politically.
unidentified
All of you, you want war?
alex jones
You're going to get war.
You want war?
You get it.
unidentified
you you Memorial Day is here.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
I mean, what a coward.
jordan holmes
Like, what a coward.
unidentified
He...
dan friesen
He's never going to get in trouble for not saying politically there.
He is such a douche.
Such a fucking loser.
jordan holmes
I want to kill him politically, but I want to start a literal hot war.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No political there.
I want to kill all of my enemies.
Him specifically, I want to kill politically.
dan friesen
I am trying to antagonize my audience to the point where maybe they take some shots at some people that I want them to take shots at.
Like people I say have fake contracts with Antifa.
jordan holmes
Or buy a Memorial Day sale.
dan friesen
But I would never say that because I got to protect the revenue stream.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so I'm going to say politically here.
jordan holmes
Right.
But then forget to say it a little while later.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
No.
So, Alex gets back to this brick story, and this is funny to me.
alex jones
I double-checked it.
It's Acme Brick of Berkshire Hathaway.
In more than 20 cities, delivered pallets of bricks everywhere.
Just dumped them off.
With a computer, they hit a button.
Delivered everywhere.
Apple just took over.
jordan holmes
They have teleportation technology?
alex jones
On their main feed, everybody's phone was taken over.
Like, kill the police, murder everybody.
dan friesen
Alex can't prove any of that stuff.
Everyone's phone was taken out.
I have an iPhone.
My phone wasn't taken out.
I don't know what the fuck he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I know because I have my phone.
jordan holmes
No, the FBI called your mom.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
They wanted to make sure that she was okay.
dan friesen
Did not happen.
jordan holmes
Pretty sure they did.
dan friesen
Didn't.
And then the other thing, Alex said he double-checked it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Did he watch that QAnon video again?
jordan holmes
No, he went to Twitter twice.
dan friesen
Okay.
Great.
jordan holmes
Congratulations.
He saw somebody else retweeted the same video.
dan friesen
So now Alex has double-checked this.
He has a responsibility to prove that Acme Brick delivered bricks specifically for these protests to turn violent in 20 cities across the United States.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'll let him off the hook with the just pressing the button and teleporting thing.
Sure.
I don't care about that.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
But now Alex has double-checked it.
So he said he's confirmed it.
He's reported it.
He's now re-reporting it as solid.
Concrete like a brick fact.
jordan holmes
You're really going to have to prove 20 things if you say there's 20 cities.
dan friesen
Oh yeah.
No, you can't do any of this shit.
You can't prove shit.
jordan holmes
Even if you proved like 5, that's still not 20. Right.
dan friesen
This is nonsense.
Yeah.
So Alex decides that in this next clip that he needs martial law, basically.
alex jones
Well, of course.
You understand they're going to escalate.
And at a certain point, we have to stop and ask ourselves, He is not shutting them down, aiding them.
And so I'm the anti-fascist.
I'm the anti-police state.
I tried to stop all this.
We're here now.
This is where we were brought.
jordan holmes
Now I'm pro-police state.
alex jones
If the Pentagon and what's left of the Justice Department and the President doesn't start decapitating the enemy last month, we're going to lose.
jordan holmes
So you've lost?
alex jones
They're already setting up their whole civil war.
They think they're going to sit it out in New Zealand and Hawaii and Tasmania and Switzerland.
No, I'll assure you you're not.
unidentified
No, I'll assure you.
alex jones
Let's just not go there.
unidentified
Because I don't want to kill these people.
jordan holmes
It really sounds like you do.
alex jones
I don't want the globalists.
I don't care about them.
jordan holmes
You're calling for decapitation.
alex jones
But see, they're not going to stop.
All they respect is their teeth knocked out.
And so, I'm telling them now, as a representative of the people, if we're anything, we're that.
jordan holmes
If we're anything.
alex jones
If you really want us to kill you, because you're just asking for it over and over again.
Politically.
unidentified
I know you hate yourselves.
alex jones
Why don't you just commit suicide?
Just kill yourselves.
Politically.
unidentified
Repent to God if you've got any soul left.
alex jones
Politically.
unidentified
Why do you want to burn everything down and all of us all kill each other?
alex jones
Because we're not like trillionaire jerks like you.
dan friesen
Die.
alex jones
die politically God kill him you know you're the you're the great avenger the vengeance belongs to you I get it I got believe me you gotta humble us for what we've done Politically.
Sitting here watching scrotomize Soros and all these other people that just like, that they want us to die because they're already dead.
And I just want to tell Soros this, you need to die.
dan friesen
Politically.
alex jones
I'm not going to kill you.
dan friesen
Politically.
alex jones
Anybody, because I don't want to turn you into a martyr, I'm saying you're going to burn in hell.
dan friesen
Politically.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
Soros would be turned into a martyr for the left.
unidentified
Let's rally around Soros!
jordan holmes
People will chant in the streets, how dare they kill Soros!
dan friesen
I mean, it's all good and well for him to do this rambling, long-winded, we're gonna kill you, you should kill yourselves, globalists, all this.
Oh, but I don't want that.
Just putting that at the end.
Doesn't undo the emotional effect of what he's doing.
jordan holmes
See, now it's satire, Dan.
dan friesen
Oh, that's right.
I forgot about that.
Swiftian.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So now we get a new guest.
Get another guest.
Not a new guest.
New for the show.
She was just on.
It's Rainbow Snatch.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Rainbow Snatch, Millie Weaver.
Alright.
jordan holmes
Now that's how she should go to protests.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Put her in the Rainbow Snatch outfit.
dan friesen
That was the original idea.
That was the original.
She was supposed to blend in with the SJWs.
jordan holmes
That was the point.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That was where Rainbow Snatch came from.
Yes.
I'm starting to think that that wasn't a good idea.
dan friesen
Get her back out there as Rainbow Snatch.
jordan holmes
I think you gotta.
It's time to bring back a season one character.
dan friesen
I would love it.
So in this next clip, Millie comes in.
And if you thought her convoluted conspiracy from our last episode was weird, she's got a...
I don't even know how to describe this.
This is Pulitzer work.
Okay.
jordan holmes
If true.
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't think it is.
millie weaver
Okay, so this is breaking news.
It's a little bit premature.
We were hoping to get it out later and get it out with more detail.
But the problem is they started off this uprising sooner than we had anticipated.
We have had an infiltrator inside their green movements.
alex jones
By the way, you told me about this weeks ago.
I'm still ready to start talking about this.
millie weaver
We are going to start releasing the documents.
We've had an infiltrator.
He, she's been in there for two years now.
alex jones
And by the way, I've seen it, folks.
jordan holmes
Nice recovery.
alex jones
Next level.
dan friesen
Devastating.
Devastating stuff.
jordan holmes
Devastating stuff.
dan friesen
So Millie Weaver has had a mole inside the Sunrise Movement for two years.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Deep cover InfoWars mole.
dan friesen
Right, right.
But it's not only that.
millie weaver
And not only that, Alex, we have their entire mirrored servers.
We have it all.
We have all their internal communications documents.
We've got the receipts of them buying stuff.
It is insane what we have.
dan friesen
If you have all of this information and you can't come up with something, I'm going to be really disappointed.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
I'm going to be so disappointed in you as a propagandist.
jordan holmes
Something!
dan friesen
If this is disappointing, oh God.
Anyway, Alex wants Millie to lay it out.
What was going on?
What do you got?
jordan holmes
Another double standard for women.
Alex always expects her to lay it out.
dan friesen
Well, this is her scoop.
jordan holmes
And he never has to.
dan friesen
This is her scoop.
jordan holmes
He never has to follow through with it.
There's a glass ceiling at InfoWars, Dan.
dan friesen
I think she's doing far better work than Alex if I didn't think all this was bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
But she's at least trying.
So, yeah, Alex keeps interrupting her, and she's no Alan Keyes, so she can't tell Alex to shut up.
jordan holmes
She's gonna finish!
alex jones
Begin at the beginning and tell people what you've got.
millie weaver
300,000 years ago.
unidentified
Oh, nope.
millie weaver
Too early.
unidentified
This is an NGO, globalist, overthrow America group.
millie weaver
Yes, it is the same group that Bernie Sanders was endorsed by AOC.
Communist.
Yes, these Democrats are in league with these groups.
They say that they're a green...
alex jones
And all because they're candy-ass leftists.
They just think they're allowed to do this.
dan friesen
You just can't stop getting in the mix.
She can't get her sentences out about what her big conspiracy that she's uncovered is.
jordan holmes
It's about me!
It's about me!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's about me!
dan friesen
So anyway, I guess she's got these documents and what have you, but she hasn't released them, so I don't have any way to assess what she's even talking about.
jordan holmes
It's really hard, because they're on the server.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And you have to get them from the server, and she doesn't really know how to do that.
dan friesen
Well, she is saying that, like, we have so much stuff.
jordan holmes
Too much.
dan friesen
Which is a...
Some might hear a lot on Infowars.
jordan holmes
There's too much to talk about.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's so much stuff.
jordan holmes
We'll get to it tomorrow.
dan friesen
So much truth that we can't talk about any of it.
jordan holmes
I really meant to get into those thousands of documents that I have, but we just ran out of time in this hour-long interview.
dan friesen
So I guess this is part of it.
I don't know, necessarily, but apparently, I don't know if you knew this, coronavirus, non-existent or something.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Getting everyone to wear masks.
You know who came up with that?
Antifa.
millie weaver
Them pushing for all these masks, everything, it was part of their plan.
They can use the mask to be able to go out there, conceal their identity.
alex jones
It's an art type of thing.
Now they're, everybody's Antifa was to make them feel powerful.
Look, everyone's, exactly, everyone's wearing a mask.
I think I got a call from a high-level, really smart guy that goes, like two weeks ago, he goes, listen, the mask or the cover of the criminal takeover, the mask is meant to make Antifa believe this is their code.
See, we're in charge.
Everyone's wearing a mask.
You just said it, Millie.
dan friesen
Wow.
Deep stuff.
jordan holmes
Everyone's wearing a mask.
dan friesen
That's some really deep thinking.
You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
Well, nobody's ever worn masks before.
As we all know, Antifa invented the first mask.
We celebrated them greatly for that.
And then we took advantage of...
Well, actually, it turns out they took advantage of their brilliant invention in order to...
Blend in with us, and as we all know, blending in makes you feel very powerful.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Individually.
dan friesen
Well, you know, I've played some Assassin's Creed games, and you certainly are at an advantage when you can blend in.
jordan holmes
Do they have hidden blades?
Are Antifa having hidden blades now?
unidentified
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
I want a wrist blade.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
I will join Antifa for a wrist blade.
I'll tell you that right now.
Take me all the way to the organization's headquarters.
dan friesen
You know who makes wrist blades?
Acme Britt.
There's a subsidiary of Justin Industries.
jordan holmes
They're very heavy.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, in this next clip, Alex comes back from break, and he's getting real heady, and he starts thinking about fortune cookies.
alex jones
I don't normally go off what fortune cookies have to say, but I got some Chinese food today.
I said, let me open both these up and see what they have to say.
Just now, during the break, I was scarfing down an egg roll.
And it says, everything originates from the seed of determination.
Exactly.
If InfoWars has one thing, it's determination.
dan friesen
I'm going to pause right there and say I kind of agree with that, because it's certainly not talent, insight, competence, literacy, correctness, integrity, any of those things.
Determination, though, yeah, you do keep pushing.
jordan holmes
They just haven't quit.
Give them that.
alex jones
And it's that understanding that we just can't turn our wills over to others, at least unconsciously.
Consciously turn it over to God, that's great.
God doesn't take control of your will.
God empowers your will.
That's the big secret the Satanists don't know.
They think, oh, Satan empowers the will.
No, it's the other way around.
Another one, dreams are extremely important.
You can't do it unless you imagine it.
Two really good points.
They didn't come from G.G. Ping.
dan friesen
Alex, what are you doing?
jordan holmes
What the fuck is that?
dan friesen
I don't know what this kind of waste of time bullshit is.
jordan holmes
You know, Dan, I just threw the I Ching and it said, well, General Zhao said that he's a fucking dick.
It's crazy.
dan friesen
Wait, he does?
He said that Alex is a dick?
jordan holmes
Yeah, he said he's a fucking dick.
alex jones
You're an asshole!
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
Alex agrees.
unidentified
Alex is going to get in a fight with your I Ching.
dan friesen
So, Millie's still on, and in this next clip, you hear her expressing a mentality that should, like, I mean, maybe at some point in the history of Infowars would straight up get you fired.
But now is the editorial line of the place.
millie weaver
On the Hunt Hill Bridge in Dallas last night, the military, the National Guard...
alex jones
Yeah, put up her tweet, guys.
Millie's tweet.
millie weaver
Yes, they were able to actually corral the rioters onto the bridge.
They had both sides of the bridge closed off.
They were trapped.
So the military police were able to make large arrests.
They arrested everyone, hundreds of people, about 300 people, rioters, terrorists, okay, were arrested and apprehended for...
jordan holmes
get terrorists.
millie weaver
Of course, the leftists are all on social media saying these are peaceful protesters.
They're peaceful protesters.
No, they're not.
They're criminals.
Peaceful protesters don't break the law.
They don't commit crimes.
OK, they wouldn't be out there because they wouldn't be wanting to violate a curfew.
dan friesen
So this is real fucked up.
jordan holmes
That is the power we want for our movement, too.
Everyone, everyone in the hard right movement, make sure you submit to a curfew.
No courage greater.
Otherwise, you're not a peaceful protester.
You're a criminal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Isn't that odd?
dan friesen
I mean...
jordan holmes
Gotta stay in for curfew!
You gotta stay in!
Otherwise you're a criminal!
dan friesen
It's farcical the level of bootlickery this is.
This kind of like, oh yeah, the military police should arrest all these people en masse because they're out after curfew.
Aren't you fucking Infowars?
jordan holmes
Wow.
You know what?
I think the military police should absolutely perform a pincer movement in order to trap a large group of people on a bridge that they cannot escape.
And then, of course, fire non-lethal weapons into a crowd indiscriminately.
I think that's a good idea.
Do you know why, Dan?
Because it's 8 p.m.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You bring up something else that's really interesting accidentally, and that is Alex missed his opportunity to say pincer movement.
Which he loves to do.
jordan holmes
That's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So we get an update on the Trump family in this next clip.
And I got bad news for one of them.
jordan holmes
Are they on fire yet?
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
That's why they're so arrogant, because Kushner knows all this.
I mean, have you noticed that Tucker Carlson's come out against Kushner?
And is just totally, I mean, risking his job, everything, to say that.
Kushner works for the deep state, is literally sabotaging Trump.
dan friesen
So here's a couple things I want to say.
If Tucker Carlson critiquing Jared Kushner is risking his job, that's indicative of a problem.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Independent media should fear for its life should it criticize those in power.
I don't understand what's wrong here, Dan.
You need to make sure that the media should feel threatened by criticizing powerful people.
dan friesen
Alex just says that.
Libertarian.
Doesn't at all examine the idea of what he has just said.
That's crazy.
And then the second thing that's just cuckoo bananas in that clip is like, all right, let's imagine Alex is right.
Jared Kushner is the deep state.
No one wants him to be there.
jordan holmes
Trump.
dan friesen
Hired his son-in-law.
Yes.
It's not like he has some kind of policy expertise that he's a legitimate hire that like, oh, you know what?
Yeah, maybe he has a little bit, maybe he's affiliated with some think tanks or whatever, but he's just so damn good at transportation issues.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine the deep state being like, all right, we're going to orchestrate a shadowy idea.
You know who we need for the job?
Fucking Kushner.
Right.
That's who we gotta get on our side.
dan friesen
Let's get Trump's fucking son-in-law in order to implant him.
What the hell is going on here?
jordan holmes
Yeah, here's what we need.
We need a spoiled rich motherfucker in order to get our...
What were we getting?
dan friesen
Alex does this game with Kushner all the time.
He's in and out on that dude all the fucking time.
It's so strange to me how many times he's turned face and turned heel.
This is for the wrestling fans.
He might as well be the big show.
jordan holmes
He flips a lot.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
I can't really get interested in this.
But it's funny.
Especially the part about Tucker.
Like, that's fucking hilarious.
unidentified
That's fucked up.
dan friesen
You're just basically putting it on Main Street.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, how much of...
jordan holmes
Fox News is a propaganda network, and if they speak out against their fearless leader, you are in danger of losing your job.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what's wrong with that.
dan friesen
Fearless leaders pointlessly hired son-in-law.
jordan holmes
Yeah, piece of shit son-in-law.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Millie gets to talk in here in this next clip about how...
She has released a few things, right, about this big scoop that she's got that's gonna get her a fucking Peabody, Pulitzer.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
She's gonna EGOT for it, basically.
alex jones
Oh, damn!
jordan holmes
She's going that far.
dan friesen
Yeah, even though it's not a musical, it's not an album, it's not a movie, it's not a TV show.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
Still gonna get all of them.
jordan holmes
Get them all.
dan friesen
Yeah, because this story is big.
millie weaver
And we're going to release stuff tomorrow starting, we already released video today of private internal conferences where...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is calling for more uprising and more continuation of the riots that we're seeing, even though publicly she's saying to not, she's saying everyone should not be writing.
So we've got that out today.
dan friesen
So I watched the video that Millie released of AOC.
It's not her saying that there should be more uprisings or anything.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is making the point that the way that we can make all of this end is to address the issues that are motivating people to protest in the first place.
That's an argument that's super threatening to Alex because deep down he fears change and he's super invested in the status quo.
Conversations that discuss a possible shifting of traditional power dynamics is something he can't handle and he instinctually labels as the work of the globalists.
We'll see what Milley ends up releasing, but I want to say this now.
When this ends up being a disappointment, it won't matter for Alex's audience.
This isn't about any actual documents they got from a server, or else I would assume Millie might have dropped something interesting at all in this interview.
It's kind of just a theatrical piece that exists in order for Alex to say stuff like this.
alex jones
I was trying to look at it a few weeks ago.
The stuff is so horrible, though, that I started crying watching it.
Like, weird, pervert-looking dudes, man, with your kids.
I mean, we're talking like Jeffrey Dahmer looking people like commie perverts, man.
dan friesen
Alex needs his own Project Veritas-style thing to embellish and make stories up about, and Millie has provided that.
I have no idea if they have a mole at all, or even if they have this server mirrored.
This recording of AOC is just a recorded Zoom call that she could have gotten some other way, and the only things that she's posted are screenshots of public websites and a guy's LinkedIn page.
jordan holmes
Got him!
dan friesen
We'll see what comes of this, but as is always the case with Infowars, do not get your hopes up.
jordan holmes
No, it's probably not going to work.
dan friesen
Probably not.
So Alex has Rex on, and we're not going to talk about this too much, but there are a couple points that I think are worth bringing up.
And obviously, I'm not going to sit here and waste my time talking about how fucked up it is that Alex is talking about how his son beat up a guy in a convenience store.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's real fucked up.
dan friesen
I think everyone kind of gets that.
jordan holmes
You should know.
dan friesen
Yeah, but there are two things worth pointing out, and here's the first one.
alex jones
Anyways, my little baby's here.
My firstborn, Rex.
dan friesen
So, I don't want to talk about this, like I said, because I think it's inappropriate.
I only keep this clip in because Alex says that Rex is his firstborn, and that made me think of something.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
According to Alex, the race memory of a person is passed down to their firstborn son, and sometimes a girl gets it, and then she becomes a queen.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
As we learn.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But here's where things get murky.
Alex has said that he's paid for a ton of abortions before, and that presumably, if he hadn't, One of those children would be his firstborn son.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
Rex very well might be Alex's 15thborn son.
jordan holmes
That's possible, yeah.
dan friesen
It would be entirely possible.
So, at the point where Alex chose to terminate those pregnancies, his part in the whole thing was done.
His sperm had fertilized their egg, and all that didn't happen was the fetus didn't develop into a human child.
So, here's my point.
If Alex's theory about race memory means anything, then either Rex doesn't have Alex's race memory, and in fact, the inheritor of that race memory was aborted, or Rex does have race memory, then it can't have anything to do with the father, if that's the case.
jordan holmes
Possible.
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Race memory has to be, if Rex has race memory, it has to be entirely something that's related to the interaction between a fetus and its mother.
jordan holmes
Again, here's where we're in trouble with this, alright?
Because this could absolutely invalidate everything he says about abortion.
If he says to me that the soul doesn't enter, or the race memory doesn't enter until the child is born, guess what's fine?
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
Abortion.
dan friesen
See?
It's all fine.
It's all fine.
Now we get into some interesting territory.
jordan holmes
He's trapped.
dan friesen
Or at least...
jordan holmes
Or he's full of fucking shit!
dan friesen
Or I think it's possible that even with your rebuttal, he could wiggle out of it and say, well, sure.
jordan holmes
Third trimester?
dan friesen
No, that's only a thing for the firstborn son.
jordan holmes
All the other aborted babies were women.
dan friesen
We're just talking about race memory issues.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
See, that is something that I think is really, really interesting to consider.
And these are these little implications that Alex's worldview entails that he's never considered.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Because all his beliefs really are at the core of them.
They're just a means to hide his chauvinist worldview behind romantic, mystical ideas.
He's never even given any thought to the process he believes is the most important thing in the world.
He's just making all this shit up so he can sound deep as opposed to just saying what he means and that is that he believes that women are inferior to men inherently.
jordan holmes
Right.
It's like George Lucas not giving Chewie a medal at the end of Star Wars.
You know what I'm saying?
That's inherent fucking racism that he never had to tackle.
He didn't understand what it meant.
To not give him...
He did just as much as Han Solo.
dan friesen
He did!
jordan holmes
That's bullshit!
Not gonna give him a fucking medal.
dan friesen
So, Alex, if race memory exists, you now need to explain to me that either your son does not have race memory, and you threw that away.
jordan holmes
Thus, your entire line ends with you.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Or, you need to explain to me...
How race memory has nothing to do with you and has everything to do with your spouse or mate or whatever.
And in that case, I don't even care.
jordan holmes
I would very much like to start with a more fundamental thing, which is you need to prove to me that race memory exists.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I don't believe that either, but I just like to have fun with his stupid beliefs.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
So here's the last clip that we have, and this is just such a bummer.
unidentified
I kept looking over to him thinking he would do something, and then at one point I was just like, alright, I guess I have to jump in and do something.
jordan holmes
And I'll be honest with you, I was terrified.
unidentified
But, I mean, I had to do it.
alex jones
All I know is we love our Somalis.
unidentified
We love our Somalis.
alex jones
We love our Muslims, too.
Oh, they're so good.
unidentified
Oh, they're so sweet.
dan friesen
I hate talking about Alex's family because I try to go out of my way to leave his personal life alone.
This, however, was something that I think is important to bring up.
If you ever need an example of how bigotry is a learned behavior, here you have it.
There's no indication that the person that Rex beat up was from Somalia or a Muslim, but that song has become a code on Alex's show.
The person who made the Bon Iver parody with Alex was trying to make fun of him, but for a while, Alex used it whenever he found an instance of any violence that was done by a person who happened to be a Muslim, and he transformed it into a thing where he was singing the song to show how everyone always makes fun of him, but he's actually right about it all.
This is basically the same sort of gift that you're giving when you accuse him of setting a mattress on fire.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
This song and the code on Alex's show has now been, it's completely lost its original context.
And you can see here how a father and son join together to sing a song that's explicitly about hating a minority group because you're scared of them.
And that's what's going on.
jordan holmes
And the cat's in the cradle in the silver spoon.
dan friesen
It's wild to me that like, I mean.
unidentified
They want to shoot Muslims onto the moon.
dan friesen
I can't believe that Alex is covering a video of his son beating up somebody at a convenience store, and their conversation is worse than just that.
It's bad.
jordan holmes
It's really, really disgusting.
dan friesen
We come to the end of this, and something that I find a little bit interesting is that he's really...
Pretty much staying on similar tracks that he's been on in terms of trying to invalidate George Floyd's murder, trying to find ways in order to make it palatable to his audience in a way that's like, ah, not a big deal.
And then second, the conspiracy theorizing about the protests, the demonstrations.
All this sort of stuff is continuing unabated.
You know, you have the brick narrative Alex has found a great amount of comfort in.
He's got a ratings bonanza coming through with the mattress fire.
And then the other thing you see trajectory-wise is an intensifying of the calls for blood.
You're seeing that, and you're seeing him have people like Alan Keyes come on to give a weird constitutional rationalization for posseing up and having...
I guess armed civilians fighting alongside National Guard people or whatever, which seems nightmarish.
jordan holmes
It's really jarring.
It's really jarring to find out just how few people are living in 2020 and how many are living in this old time of like...
Fascism is fine.
We need to fire upon...
Nobody has learned that lesson over and over and over again.
unidentified
That it's a bad idea.
jordan holmes
Everybody just keeps thinking, man, I'm going to be a higher up in the fascist order.
Alex is thinking, I'm going to take a level up in fascism.
So I am pro-fascism.
Immediately.
No problems there.
dan friesen
Yeah, or at the very least, I'm safe from it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's insane to me that we've normalized this so much and we're in a year where fucking amphibious cars exist.
I can't have amphibious cars and Nazis running America.
You know?
Like, I just can't do it.
dan friesen
It seems I can't have both.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So what do you think about Alex, like, on this episode?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
He seems very fake.
The only thing that seemed genuine, like that whole screaming speech of like, I'm gonna go!
alex jones
I'm gonna go!
jordan holmes
Yeah, but this is just a bummer to me.
It's just a real fucking bummer.
dan friesen
So you think he's fake?
jordan holmes
I think he's fake.
alex jones
I'm really pissed off at you, man.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't caught into that kind of thing, man.
Doesn't like that.
Does not like that!
jordan holmes
Damn it.
dan friesen
So we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We are on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And if you could, please donate to a bail fund.
There are aggregators where you can spread that money across a large number of them.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Please look those up.
unidentified
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
alex jones
You're a jerk!
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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