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June 5, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#441: June 3-4, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan keep up with the current goings-on in the world of Alex Jones. In this installment, Alex interviews a couple doomed Congressional candidates, decides that Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump are Democrats and villains, and treads water with his anti-Antifa (pro-fa?) narratives.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
13:38
d
dan friesen
01:02:26
j
jordan holmes
17:00
Appearances
h
hotep jesus
03:10
t
ted cruz
01:09
Clips
d
donald j trump
00:02
l
laura loomer
00:18
Callers
andy in kansas
00:00
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
donald j trump
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding me.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your world.
jordan holmes
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Well, I don't know why, but YouTube suggested a little video for me.
jordan holmes
If it was Plandemic, we're all in trouble here.
dan friesen
Guys have big news about vaccines.
They're bad.
No, it was a video of...
It's kind of a genre I wasn't aware of on YouTube, and that is...
People who are experts in a certain field reviewing scenes from movies about those things.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
And so I watched one where it was like a crime scene investigator or detective talking about these scenes, being like, well, this is why this would never happen.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, that's fascinating.
People who have just like a really specialized view being able to be like, that's accurate, this is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so I watched one that was an animal expert, like a wildlife behavioral expert, and I thought he was like really charming and like had some interesting things to say about animals.
jordan holmes
And then he was stabbed through the heart by a...
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, okay.
dan friesen
It was great, and then I started just thinking about how much I love animals.
Like, I love my cat.
And I decided that as part of celebrating this new apartment, once I move in, I'm getting a second animal friend.
jordan holmes
No shit!
dan friesen
I've made that decision, but I don't know what it's going to be.
jordan holmes
It's going to be seltzer shaped like a dog.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I don't hate dogs, but I don't ever see myself as being someone who would have a dog.
jordan holmes
No, you're not a dog person.
dan friesen
I'm not a dog person.
jordan holmes
You're not a have-a-dog person.
dan friesen
I'm not a live-with-a-dog person.
jordan holmes
We've discussed this in the past, yes.
dan friesen
Although I could get used to it.
I've lived with dogs in the past.
jordan holmes
Dogs are wonderful.
dan friesen
I was thinking maybe another cat, but that also seems kind of like, eh, really?
jordan holmes
I don't know if Selene is a team builder.
dan friesen
I think she could be.
jordan holmes
She could be?
dan friesen
She warms up to people pretty quickly.
I think she could to another cat.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
But then I was thinking, ideally what I would want is some kind of...
I would want an orangutan, but you can't get them.
jordan holmes
Right, you can't get those.
You can't get those.
Now, let me tell you something.
You're going to think, maybe I should get a bird.
Dan, do not get a bird.
dan friesen
I have a long-standing rivalry with birds.
jordan holmes
No reason for a bird.
dan friesen
They're too loud.
They're evil.
Many reasons not to have birds.
unidentified
Although...
dan friesen
I would think about maybe a chicken.
jordan holmes
See, there you go!
I knew you were going to think it.
unidentified
I told you eventually you were going to think maybe I should get a bird.
dan friesen
So I'm thinking about a hedgehog.
I'm thinking about a chinchilla.
jordan holmes
Chinchilla would be eaten.
dan friesen
I'm thinking about a pair of sugar gliders.
jordan holmes
Love sugar gliders.
unidentified
That's cool.
They're so cute.
jordan holmes
That is cute.
That is cute.
Again, we'll be eaten.
dan friesen
I think they're probably too expensive and I wouldn't have enough space for them.
So I'm not entirely sure.
There's a lot of stuff I've got to weigh, but I'm very excited.
First of all, for the move and getting some more space for some plants and also for possibly another animal friend.
So that's a bright spot.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, you got one deficiency, maybe even two, which is, first off, sugar gliders need a lot of sucrose and you don't have that.
And they need space to glide.
And I don't know if you have enough space for glide.
dan friesen
But if I get some more plants going in the house, I have some trees they can glide on.
jordan holmes
Oh, they could glide all over the place.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Just put sugar everywhere.
I know nothing about sugar gliding.
dan friesen
They're very cute.
So yeah, I don't know.
I have a lot of thoughts about Animal Friends.
jordan holmes
I like it.
I like it.
You should get Animal Friends.
dan friesen
I mean, it's all just trying to sublimate my honest desire to just live in the woods.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Where I hang out and talk to deer and whatever animals stumble through my shack.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Yes, that's what I'm trying to get the most out of while still living in the city.
ted cruz
I like it.
dan friesen
I'll get a little tiny marsupial to sit in my pocket.
jordan holmes
That sounds great.
That really does sound fun.
dan friesen
That would be nice.
jordan holmes
For me, Dan, there's only one bright spot right now, and that is that RTJ4 dropped.
And it's fantastic.
dan friesen
I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but I've heard that.
jordan holmes
You can download it, and you can donate two of the best things that you can do right now.
Listen to RTJ4 and give money to people who need it.
dan friesen
For those uninitiated, that's run the jewels.
You gotta understand, man.
We got a broad audience.
Some people are unaware of musical groups.
jordan holmes
Some people don't know.
I don't know.
Okay.
They told you on RTJ1.
All right.
They told you again on RGD.
Oh, man.
Done.
I'm out.
dan friesen
Pass.
jordan holmes
Pass.
dan friesen
It'd be a little easier to say than RTJ over and over again.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
unidentified
Fair.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
I always say that, and sometimes I'm wrong.
Fair.
Fair.
Today we're going to be talking about June 3rd and 4th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
Congratulations.
dan friesen
Whoa.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
What happened there?
jordan holmes
I was trying to be nice.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
jordan holmes
I was trying to take the bit in a new direction, Dan.
unidentified
It threw me for a huge loop.
dan friesen
So it's an interesting stretch of time, kind of, I guess.
Not really.
I'm feeling very frustrated with Alex in the present day a little bit.
I don't think his narratives are going anywhere.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It feels just like a guy who's...
Kind of mad.
That's basically all it is.
jordan holmes
Bootlickers are boring, really, at the end of the day.
A little bit, yeah.
dan friesen
Now that we've sort of entered into a time when things are really...
There's a lot of really exciting stuff going on in the real world.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And you would think that Alex would be able to rise to the occasion with interesting stuff in his own propaganda.
jordan holmes
You would hope.
dan friesen
It just doesn't, really.
He just talks to a couple of dead-end congressional candidates and a guy who probably...
Nah, not probably.
He definitely doesn't believe the Holocaust is real.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's just kind of like, God, Alex, you're just doing your show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, when you're limited by the dumbest man in history, it really does kind of mess with your ability to exercise imagination.
dan friesen
Yeah, a little bit.
And when you have to be the stupidest person in that cadre, or the stupidest and most dangerous, and when there's a mainstream conversation that had been going on about putting the military...
Against protesters.
jordan holmes
Which is a great idea.
dan friesen
You now have a responsibility of normalizing that idea, being the first against the barbed wire, as Alex says.
jordan holmes
You need to be the first building the barbed wire now.
dan friesen
You have to be the tip of the spear towards poking protesters.
That's basically what Alex's responsibility is, and that's kind of not...
It's a real bummer.
Well, and it's a much harder line to walk, because you have to also not...
Be specific about violent threats or else you run the risk of getting in trouble.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
I just think he's kind of uninspired.
But we'll see.
There's some interesting stuff along the way, nonetheless.
And we'll get down to business on that.
But before we do...
Gotta say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's wonderful.
dan friesen
So first, Joe M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Joey, thank you.
Next, Susan P. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Susan.
dan friesen
Thank you, Susie.
Next, Tom M. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Tommy.
We're doing a lot of that, huh?
dan friesen
Jordan, you trying to take my bet?
Don't take my bet.
jordan holmes
I gotta get that away from you.
dan friesen
Next, John B. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Sloop John B. Next, Chelsea.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
That's not even fair.
dan friesen
That one already ends in E. Chelsea Dagger.
unidentified
You can't say Chelsea E. Get out of here.
dan friesen
Next, Aaron.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
No last name, Aaron.
Thank you so much.
And finally, thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
So first, Michael W. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
Fred with two Ds.
M. Last initial.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Suzanne B. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare...
Infowar on you!
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Michael, thank you so much, Fred, and thank you so much, Suzanne.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to all of you.
dan friesen
Yes.
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or you can take that generous impulse and direct it towards some, there's all sorts of charitable initiatives that are going around right now.
One we'll talk about a little bit later on the show, our friend Chris Redd.
You set up a fund on GoFundMe that is meant to provide some monies for testing and for hospital bills that may come up from people who may get coronavirus from being out on the front lines and protesting.
So there are things like that.
I mean, I'm not saying you should necessarily go donate to that, although it is an option.
There's a hundred things out there for whatever...
You find the most important to you personally, and you feel like you can help the most.
jordan holmes
I say stay local.
Local is going to be really important to build communities from the local up.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
Get around the people that you're around.
dan friesen
Take whatever your feeling is.
If that's your priority, that's your priority, and run with it.
So, Jordan.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I got really nothing on the seltzers.
And I know it sounds like I keep saying that, but I've just been trying to get this move taken care of.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's really getting to a point now where I realize I got a bunch of seltzers already that I'm not moving these seltzers.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But I've drank one of them already, so it's not like a new thing to review.
jordan holmes
If you were arrested, you would be arrested with intent to deal, yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's distribution levels.
So I have a lot of these, and I've been drinking some of them, and then I'm going to take the rest to the food bank.
But I'm in a position where it's like, I'm too distracted to even try and bother with a bunch of seltzers.
jordan holmes
Oh, is there other stuff going on?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a few other things.
There's a lot of work and there's a lot of moving.
And so once this is all taken care of, we're still ahead of pace.
We'll be fine.
And once we hit the ground running at the new place, there'll be nothing but...
It's going to be a fucking seltzer palace.
Me and my goddamn sugar glider are going to be sitting here on my shoulder just talking about seltzers.
jordan holmes
There's no sugar in seltzers!
dan friesen
Some of them do.
Some of them do.
jordan holmes
What if you get a CBD one for that sugar glider?
Dead.
dan friesen
You don't know that.
jordan holmes
I don't know that.
dan friesen
We'll experiment.
No, we won't.
No, we won't.
So, yeah.
Not a whole lot to report, but soon enough.
Soon enough, we'll have something for you.
jordan holmes
That's not soon enough!
dan friesen
My seltzer head's out there.
So, we start off the show, and we're going to start on June 3rd, and this is Alex being very disappointed that Mark Esper, the Secretary of Defense, has come out and said, let's not do that Insurrection Act thing.
alex jones
We've had the Pentagon.
Come out against the president because they think he can be defeated.
They're all thinking about their next job.
And say, oh no, we don't want the Insurrection Act.
We don't want troops on the street.
And Trump's telling police chiefs, get in there, stop these people.
And they're like, nope, we're going to take a knee and encourage it.
Everyone I know either has been robbed, physically attacked, or knows someone very close that was.
Most of the crew have had their mailboxes and cars and houses broken into.
I'm carrying a gun all the time now.
And I've told listeners, COVID-19 hysteria was a hoax.
But the crime is off the charts.
And I have told my family, and I told my son, because he's already moved out at 17 and a half, got a couple jobs.
I said, you better not be out after.
8 or 9 o 'clock at night.
If you live in a place like Austin, Texas.
Because it is dangerous as hell.
And you better be carrying a gun.
dan friesen
Alex is really overstating a lot of this probably to create a lot of fear in his audience.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine why.
dan friesen
A lot of panic that he wants them to feel of the other.
Of these protests in particular?
Yeah, I mean, and also, his son was out after 8 or 9, and there was video of him beating up a guy at a 7-Eleven that Alex celebrated the other day, so I don't know.
jordan holmes
It doesn't get much more, you can't tell me what to do, Dad, than beating a man to death at a 7-Eleven.
dan friesen
Didn't beat him to death, just to be clear.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think Alex is overstating a lot of this stuff because that's in his best interest, to create this sense of fear, generalized and overwhelming sense of fear.
In the audience.
jordan holmes
I even very much doubt that he's carrying a gun with him all the time.
I think he's full of shit on that, too.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure.
I mean, I know that up to a certain point, I think it was in 2015 at least.
jordan holmes
He didn't even have a concealed carry.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He admitted he didn't have a carry permit.
So, I don't know.
He probably has gotten one since then, but he may not have.
unidentified
We'll see.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know, you can't open carry a Barrett 50 Cal.
jordan holmes
Never underestimate Alex's cowardice.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
So, you've got these protests that are going on around the country that are, you know, motivated by feelings of...
Outrage at police murdering unarmed black people.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought they were outside agitators from all the other 50 states.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
We're trading them between states.
dan friesen
No, that...
I mean, some people will make that argument.
jordan holmes
It's like a fantasy draft, you know?
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
We're sending our good ones from New York to Chicago.
Chicago sends them to New York.
They're all outside agitators.
dan friesen
Game of Red Rover between states or something.
No, people are upset about the police murdering people, and then on top of that, not having consequences and such.
jordan holmes
That's an issue.
dan friesen
Beyond that, I think things have kept going in a large part because some of these protests have been met with police brutality, and that certainly is a vicious cycle that can continue.
And certainly upset people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if it were me, I would say that if you wanted to end a protest about police brutality, one of the worst ways to go about it would be with...
Police brutality.
dan friesen
It tends to make the protesters' argument become a lot more clear.
jordan holmes
And it's hard to disagree with, right?
dan friesen
It should be, but that's why you just ignore.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good idea.
dan friesen
So you've got these protests going on, and it just so happens that the other day there was a situation that gave Alex the exact thing that he needed in order to attempt to invalidate a lot of this stuff.
alex jones
But of course, you'll never hear it on the National News.
You'll never see it on the big news aggregating sites because they don't count.
Like retired police captain David Dorn running security at a major store and they walked up and shot him dead in the chest.
Oh, by the way, he's black.
But you'll never hear about him because he's a cop.
And the video is very sad, very powerful.
We're going to play it here.
You can see the light go out of his eyes.
He's in a pool of blood.
dan friesen
It's disgusting.
Alex playing this video repeatedly throughout the show.
jordan holmes
That's incredible.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's terrible.
And it's sad that this guy got shot by these looters.
That is a crime.
jordan holmes
That's a tragedy.
The issue is we're all mad at the same tragedy of people being murdered.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's an issue.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't want anybody murdered.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And beyond that, this is not so much...
Applicable to the larger conversation of what's going on.
It's sad, and I absolutely don't have any feelings of support for anybody who would do something like this.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
It's never more fine for somebody to be murdered.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
It's not fine, and it's definitely not more fine for somebody else to be murdered.
dan friesen
And I've seen plenty of coverage about this.
I've seen a lot of people bring this up, whether it be on Twitter or...
I've seen at least a few news stories about this guy, David Dorn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, nobody's ignoring it.
dan friesen
No, and I don't think that anybody who believes and supports...
What's going on in the protests?
I don't think anybody is necessarily afraid of looking at this and saying, yeah, those people who were looting that pawn shop are fucking awful.
That is an awful thing to do.
No, that is not in line with what we support and what this is going for.
But I do think that Alex coincidentally can't do the reverse.
He can't look at the instances of police brutality against peaceful protesters and discuss that.
He treats that as if it's not happening at all, just ignore it.
He treats the other cases of the police killing people, which have happened since...
jordan holmes
Time immemorial.
dan friesen
Well, and since the protests have even started.
There was David McCaddy, the barbecue restaurateur.
There have been other cases since.
And he can't talk about those, so he ignores those.
Whereas I don't think that people are ignoring Mr. Dorn in the same way that Alex is pretending that they are.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
And Alex is taking this video, and it's just disgusting to see him exploit this the way he does.
He plays it repeatedly, and he's like, God, no one cares about this guy!
unidentified
It's just...
dan friesen
It's shit.
jordan holmes
It's just fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's shit work.
So Alex has a guest coming on his show, and he has the credentials of...
A normal Alex Jones guest, and that is that a video of him got popular.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
That's all you need?
jordan holmes
That's all you need?
dan friesen
It's a video of him yelling at a city council meeting.
unidentified
And right now, everybody is sitting at home, scared to death of a virus that didn't even exist.
And now you've got people running through the streets, burning...
Your time is up, sir.
And you know what?
I said I wasn't done yet.
Sir?
This is a problem that can be fixed if you will take leadership.
Thank you.
Your time is up, please.
Stop hiding behind things like he was resisting our authority.
Is it possible to turn off his microphone?
That's what they said was the reason for his murder.
Resisting his authority.
Sir, your time is up.
You're done.
It's been three minutes.
This is...
Please.
jordan holmes
A little more gauze.
A little more gauze.
unidentified
Sir?
alex jones
He's going to be joining us at the bottom of the hour.
We're well familiar with the great work he does.
The great works as well.
For US Senate now.
jordan holmes
He's running for US Senate now.
dan friesen
Yeah, of course he is.
This is one of these doomed candidates.
jordan holmes
Real quick loop.
dan friesen
He later comes on and is like, yeah, I'm running against Mark Warner and I just want to debate him and make him so mad.
Alright, seems like your motivations are in the right place.
jordan holmes
Nothing is real, Mr...
My time is up?
unidentified
Okay, well.
dan friesen
Well, no, he would not respect that.
Clearly he doesn't respect...
Even that video that was going around...
I didn't look into it enough to know if it was real or not, but the guy who was yelling at the Zoom call and was like, suck my dick and choke on it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
At least even that, he yielded his time.
unidentified
Well, of course.
dan friesen
He got his...
jordan holmes
He said what he needed to say!
dan friesen
As they say in the wrestling world, he got his shit in and then got out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Didn't overstay his welcome.
This dude doesn't know what he's doing.
jordan holmes
You gotta go away to come back.
dan friesen
Yeah, this guy has to keep filibustering.
It's just fucking...
It's a sign of weakness, quite frankly.
You can't...
Just do your shit.
jordan holmes
It's a little too close to Patton Oswalt yelling at Leslie Knope.
That's a problem.
dan friesen
And not nearly as amusing.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So Alex is going to interview this guy whose name is Tom Special because this video of him is making the rounds in right-wing circles.
It's just him yelling at a city council meeting about how the communists are taking over and it's all the Democrats' fault.
There's no virus.
George Floyd shouldn't have resisted arrest.
jordan holmes
That's where we fall apart.
dan friesen
Special is one of these fringe-ass candidates who's running for office who probably thinks that Infowars is going to help him win the primary.
And this strategy, up until this point, has not been a good one.
I think it's a 0% batting average in the last run.
No.
jordan holmes
No?
Are you sure?
dan friesen
I think that people like...
Deanna Lorraine.
Yeah, that was her name.
I almost forgot her name.
I almost already forgot her name.
jordan holmes
You're the only person who would know.
dan friesen
Yeah, she lost her primary when she was going to unseat Nancy Pelosi.
jordan holmes
She almost got her.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It was very close.
It was really down to the wire.
dan friesen
No, it was that Dianne Feinstein.
I can't even remember.
Can't even remember.
unidentified
Whatever it takes to get Dianne Feinstein out.
jordan holmes
Because insider trading doesn't work.
dan friesen
Enrique Tarrio dropped out of his...
His race?
jordan holmes
No, that one was shameful.
dan friesen
I can't think of anybody who's been on Infowars who has had a successful run in a primary.
jordan holmes
Eh, Trump.
dan friesen
Well, fine.
We got one.
jordan holmes
We got one.
It's kind of a big notch on your bed, though.
It's a big notch.
dan friesen
Well, he hasn't come back.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
dan friesen
We got some...
This guy is...
I don't think he's going to win.
Anyway, Alex is going to get to that interview in a little bit, but he has to get really extreme and explain to his audience that we're basically out of time.
There's no time left.
alex jones
I want to just say this here very crisply and very clearly for everybody.
I wish we had more time.
We told you this was all coming.
We don't have more time.
They're going to go for broke.
The globalists aren't going to stop.
They're just softening Trump up right now to kill him.
And I'm seeing everybody back away from Trump in D.C. in fear.
They're getting ready to make the main move.
And I'm just going to say this to the people running that operation, and we know who they are.
Some of those retired generals, Hayden, Clapper, Obama, and others.
You're never going to get away with this.
dan friesen
So this is why, like, it's clips like this that really reveal to me how full of shit Alex is, and kind of make me realize that, like, this is a game.
If he'd been preparing for this for 20 years, and this was the globalists' big move, and the Patriots are running out of time, why wouldn't he be saying it's time to start shooting?
There's nothing left.
If this move of the Patriots doesn't work...
Game is over for them, right?
The continuing of doing a show like Alex does in the middle of what's presumably the big one reveals that it's just another publicity stunt for him, because he's holding back in the same way he always does.
A fully committed quote-unquote patriot who was looking to save the Republic wouldn't do that if time was running out.
This is all just an act for Alex, and it's pretty gross.
You can see that in the way that he behaves.
jordan holmes
Yeah, do you know what a patriot would do?
Be out in the streets.
dan friesen
Perhaps.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, in this next clip, the party's over, baby.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's over.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
No more party.
He says this a couple times.
jordan holmes
There's a few times?
dan friesen
I think he might be trying to brand a new shirt.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
The party's over.
jordan holmes
I prefer an Irish goodbye.
alex jones
The party's over.
You have to decide whether you want to be free or slave.
You gotta decide which side you're on.
I'm Alex Jones, your host, on this June 3rd Wednesday transmission with 152 days out from the election.
They don't have any intent to let President Trump get up to that election point.
They are going to discredit him.
They're going to say that he can't rule.
They're going to say that he's caused the unrest that they've triggered.
They're going to call for his resignation or removal under the 25th Amendment.
And that is coming next.
You can set your watch by it.
dan friesen
This is, again, why this is such a game.
He's been saying they're right about to do the 25th Amendment for years now.
This is just so bland.
It's so boring.
jordan holmes
I just want...
Bring back polonium poisoning.
Bring back a poisoning.
Bring back something good.
Give me, give me, uh...
dan friesen
The slow-acting sedative in his Diet Cokes was fun.
jordan holmes
Look, uh, give me some Yukio Mishma style.
They're gonna break into the White House, pull him out to the fucking ledge, and see if everybody wants to chop his head off.
Like, real quick stuff, and then they commit seppuku.
dan friesen
Dive deep into the they've put a hundred bombs at construction sites stuff.
jordan holmes
Ooh, now that's great.
dan friesen
Keep going with that.
Why are you going back to this stupid 25th Amendment stuff that you've...
You've covered this territory over and over and over again.
You've been wrong every time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if the 25th were going to be invoked, we're way past that.
dan friesen
I would think so.
jordan holmes
We're way past that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets to talking, and I think he's a little bit pissed off that Trump has come out and said that Antifa should be a terrorist organization.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
And it turns out this is kind of meaningless shit talk, and actually there's some arrests of right-wing folks who plan some terrorist stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't like this.
alex jones
It's all over the news that they're saying, oh, right-wingers are posing as Antifa.
Right-wingers are posing as looters.
There's no looters.
There's no Antifa.
Even though they're all out promoting it and pushing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we all meet at the Eagles Lodge.
alex jones
The public is so dumbed down.
That when San Antonio News and National News and all of it said that Infowars burned down a homeless camp, 100% not true.
My son got a whole bunch of calls saying he did it.
People he knows said you did it.
That's the hysteria of the mob psychology.
And now that's the new thing I've done, see?
dan friesen
So with Alex's son, this is an easy misunderstanding for people to make because there was these erroneous tweets flying around about Alex and info starting that fire around the same time that Alex himself was promoting a video of his son beating up a guy at a 7-Eleven.
So it's kind of an easy mistake for someone to make.
I don't know.
This is your fault, Alex.
That confusion is your fault.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
No, you earned that confusion.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But again, this is a good demonstration of why you never want to give Alex these sorts of abilities to bring these things up as if they are proof that everyone lies about it.
Because he will do it on every single occasion possible.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So, it's hard to say exactly to what extent the protests have been infiltrated by bad actors from the white nationalist accelerationist community or these boogaloo types, but it's definitely not, not at all.
But I don't know how you could quantify it or to what extent you would.
I just don't know how you'd be able to.
It seems like there's a likelihood of some.
jordan holmes
It is an oft-tossed-around concept.
Every time I see a protest, there's at least 20 regular tweets of like...
The KKK has been spotted there.
Avoid that place.
But for the most part, as far as confirmed reports, it's happened, but to the point where it's really not a lot.
dan friesen
I don't know what it means.
I think there's a normal human impulse.
You saw it with Alex's CPAC speech with Enrique Tarrio, and he was giving his speech about, hey, there's infiltrators in this room.
Everybody does that.
I do think And I know there is at least one example I can point to clear as day, but it would be irresponsible for me to definitively say if one act of property damage or another is being done by one group or another, so I'm not even going to try and attempt to thread that needle.
I don't know what's going on.
But what I can do is prove Alex wrong about his assertion that there are no right-wing people infiltrating and pretending to be Antifa, and I can do that based on Alex's own reporting.
On May 31st, Alex reported on a particularly menacing statement that was said to be coming from Antifa.
alex jones
And meanwhile, Antifa is put out on their Twitter.
Notice, they have a Twitter.
I don't have a Twitter, but they have a Twitter.
Tonight's the night, comrades.
Tonight we say F the city, and we move into the residential areas.
The White Hoods.
Total race-based.
I mean, think about that.
And we take what's ours.
dan friesen
When we discussed this, our response was that it was pretty obviously that was a fake Twitter account.
And guess what?
Since then, that's been determined by Twitter that that account, Antifa underscore US, was actually run by the white nationalist group, the American Identity Movement, formerly known as Identity Europa.
jordan holmes
Who could have guessed that?
dan friesen
Right.
Pretty...
jordan holmes
It was very simple.
dan friesen
There were some odds.
jordan holmes
They might as well have had a neon sign flashing, we're lying to you.
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is a very common right-wing extremist strategy, to create fake Antifa accounts on social media to disseminate messages that people will pass on and assume are real, which make left-wing protests look bad.
They do this a lot because it's super effective.
In the past days, there has been so much conversation and hand-wringing among right-wing pundits about the fear of Antifa showing up to your white man house and killing you and your family.
It's a tool of delegitimization whereby the right-wing folk hope to demonize the larger point of the protest by ascribing words to an imaginary organization that'll scare off the middle of the road, folks.
It's more or less an attempt to pull support in their direction from the center by scaring it away from the other side.
Alex played right into this game and actually he was an active participant in enabling a white nationalist group to infiltrate the protests and Antifa.
For him to say it's not happening is ridiculous.
But, as we also see in that clip, the downside of the accusation that he burned the mattress.
Now that he has that in his back pocket as an example of how the media lies, he can deploy it in instances like this.
You can't possibly believe that there are right-wing extremists infiltrating left-leaning protests.
Sure, the media says there are, but they said I burned that mattress.
So nothing is real.
That's the danger of this.
You can just see it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So now we get to Tom Spaciel.
Anyway, he says that InfoWars is great, which might hurt him in the campaign.
unidentified
Because of InfoWars, because of the fact that people are out there, you're providing people with raw information a lot of times that they can go look up themselves and find out what's true and what isn't.
You're challenging.
Damn, man.
Essentially, what I believe InfoWars, for me, what InfoWars does is it challenges the – The milquetoast narratives that a lot of times we hear from, you know, the so-called conservatives, the political machine Republicans even.
dan friesen
I love the mentalities like this because that's what this show is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, Alex provides raw intelligence that people can look up.
I basically heard that and said, okay, I will.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And guess what?
He does a bad job.
jordan holmes
He does a bad job.
dan friesen
But I will say that he's right.
I mean, Tom's right there when he says that, like, what they do is they challenge these narratives.
I just would argue that they do it poorly, and they generally do so by lying and making shit up.
So, I mean, yes, absolutely.
jordan holmes
There are many ways to challenge something.
dan friesen
I also want Alex to spell milquetoast.
That's the other thing that was going through my mind.
jordan holmes
You think he's going to go with straight-up milquetoast?
dan friesen
Probably, yeah.
jordan holmes
Not going to like those cues.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Tom gives me every reason to not like him by saying that if you like a certain person, you'll like him, which means I won't like him.
unidentified
The way I've tried to sum my campaign up is if you like Jim Jordan, put Tom Speciale in the Senate.
We're going to have Jim Jordan, Tom Speciale, and Donald Trump in 2020.
And when we have that, I guarantee you, I will Go out and crush these swamp monsters with our president.
dan friesen
Oh sure you will.
jordan holmes
Is that the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost right there?
Is that what we're describing?
dan friesen
Perhaps.
Yeah, you got a guy who yells at city council meetings, a corrupt lunatic real estate magnate, and a guy who turns a blind eye to a college doctor abusing tons of students.
jordan holmes
Doesn't get closer to Christianity than that.
dan friesen
What a trinity.
What a trinity to crush the swamp monsters.
I'm out.
jordan holmes
Pass.
dan friesen
So Alex has this guy on, and it's clearly some kind of a situation where Alex saw this video and was like, oh man, that's getting some attention.
I've got to get this guy on.
And then simultaneously, this guy's running for Congress, and he's like, I've got to boost my profile somehow, set myself away from the pack of these losers in the Republican primary, and he thinks that Alex is a good way to do that.
So I don't give a shit.
Boring.
jordan holmes
Find your way on to Sinclair, buddy.
That'll give you a lot better hope.
unidentified
Probably.
dan friesen
So Alex has another person coming up on the show here on the 3rd.
He's doing a...
jordan holmes
Is it Jim Jordan?
No.
dan friesen
But he does have...
It's a primary bonanza he's going through here.
So he has another person who's running.
We know this person.
alex jones
Okay, Laura Loomer for Congress is a tough cookie.
She's been through a lot of persecution, a lot of censorship, but she's fighting back and in a lot of polls.
She's in the lead.
Where she's running there in Florida, but she's coming on talking about Antifa and how they're terrorists, what they've done to her, and how she does support the president designating them as a terrorist organization.
dan friesen
I bet she does.
So, Laura Loomer is running for office in the 21st District in Florida, and I'm going to say this right now, very comfortably.
She doesn't have a chance in hell.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on.
There's the October surprise, Dan.
dan friesen
The Republican primary is on August 18th.
And even though she is raising a good bit of money for her campaign, she's an embarrassing disaster.
And I find it very hard to imagine that any significant number of people will vote for her.
jordan holmes
I think Roger Stone's going to steal her computers at the end of the day.
dan friesen
One of the main problems for her campaign is that she's already made a bunch of really good attack ads on herself.
Like every time she's been on Infowars, or the time she handcuffed herself to the door of Twitter.
Anyone running against her basically has a freebie for an election.
jordan holmes
It's really not hard to, yeah.
dan friesen
Blumer is one of the at least six candidates in the Republican primary, the winner of which will go up against Louise Frankel, who has a long history in government.
Frankel was in the Florida House from 1986 to 1992, then again from 1994 to 2002.
She was elected mayor of West Palm Beach in 2003 and served there until 2011, at which point she ran for the U.S. House, where she has been since 2013.
Frankel has a strong track record of electoral competence, whereas Loomer...
Just really as a resume full of weak shit and self-defeating publicity stunts mixed in with disgraceful Islamophobia.
jordan holmes
It's time for a change.
It's time to bring updated messaging to the children.
Lock yourself inexplicably to a door.
dan friesen
To one door.
To one single door.
jordan holmes
Well, you gotta be polite.
dan friesen
Very lame.
And let's not forget.
Laura Loomer was the co-star with Jacob Wall in that stupid fake documentary where they went around trying to prove that Ilhan Omar was married to her brother.
Like, she's a disaster.
jordan holmes
Came real close.
dan friesen
Disaster of a candidate.
jordan holmes
They almost proved that, too.
dan friesen
Also, in the 2016 election, this district went for Hillary by a margin of 59% to 39%.
Laura Loomer is doing this all for attention.
And if I had to guess, to try and get back on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And good luck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good luck.
Give me an exemption for being a candidate for some bullshit.
dan friesen
Not going to take this very seriously.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I was going to play later, whenever she gets elected.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I would look like a real dick.
jordan holmes
Well, by then, we're going to be burnt alive.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
If she gets elected, you and I are already dead.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
When she gets on the show, she points out that this district is where Mar-a-Lago is.
And that's where Trump votes.
He votes by mail.
jordan holmes
Because he committed mail voter fraud.
dan friesen
According to him.
So she's like, when I get elected, Trump will be one of my constituents.
I will be representing the president.
jordan holmes
I am a big fan of delusions of grandeur.
That's great.
dan friesen
So Alex in this next clip discusses how he doesn't want a police state.
He's also going to want a police state.
jordan holmes
Well, of course.
It's fun.
dan friesen
Kind of on the fence.
jordan holmes
Everybody likes one.
dan friesen
He wants a police state in order to avoid a police state.
jordan holmes
Well, he's got to avoid them building that fucking road, Dan.
dan friesen
True.
alex jones
This is insurrection.
Funded by foreign governments to overthrow the country.
I'm Mr. Anti-Police State.
I'm anti-illegal surveillance.
I'm anti-cops going to homeschoolers' houses.
I want the borders controlled, though.
When there's insurrection, I want it stopped.
What?
In fact, I'll hit that next segment.
But this next thing boils my blood.
We'll hit it here in a moment.
Let me just throw this out.
Times are so crazy, I decided to extend the big sale we've had and just expand it to 60% off across the board.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's not good.
alex jones
Supplements and many other products at infoworkstore.com.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
Good sale.
Can extend it.
jordan holmes
I've decided to take a loss on everything.
I gotta get out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, this is just, this is just like, we can sell stuff now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We probably can't in three weeks.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
People will not be as scared at that point.
jordan holmes
We got some juice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Let's use it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So good, good, good stuff, Alex.
I'm proud of you.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think that's shit, but whatever.
jordan holmes
Eh.
dan friesen
So, I also love it whenever Alex says that he's Mr. Anti-Police State.
I love that.
I just think of, who's Mr. Steal Your Girl?
Who's that guy?
It wasn't Alice.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex talks about how Rosenstein, Rod Rosenstein, was testifying.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And Ted Cruz was really taking him to the woodshed.
jordan holmes
Has Ted Cruz ever done anything?
dan friesen
He grew a beard and tweeted some porno.
jordan holmes
Oh!
alex jones
Here's Ted Cruz, Senator Cruz, going after the Howdy Doody doll, the ventriloquist doll that is Rosenstein.
ted cruz
Let me ask you, did it strike you as strange, and my time has expired, so I'm going to leave this as the last question.
Did it strike you as strange that the FBI and the Department of Justice was going after a three-star general, the incoming national security advisor to the president, Who they already said they were going to dismiss the case against,
and their predicate for all of this is the Logan Act, which you know perfectly well is an unconstitutional law that no one has ever been prosecuted under in the history of the Department of Justice, and should have been laughed out of the room in any responsible Department of Justice.
If someone had suggested we're going to go after the incoming national security advisor for violating the Logan Act, which says an American citizen can't talk to a foreign leader, I guarantee you today, right now, John Kerry is violating the Logan Act.
Now, fortunately, it's an unconstitutional law, so who cares?
Why did you not laugh this out of the room, and why didn't you get to answers on this?
Why did you let this pile of partisan lies?
Consume the country for two years.
unidentified
Senator, I appreciate it.
alex jones
Because he's a criminal.
Because these guys get away with murder.
jordan holmes
Wait, which person in this case?
dan friesen
Well, you see here a tactic.
And this is a really regular thing for propagandists like Alex.
And you can see through this prism how their lies are facilitated by people like Ted Cruz within the government.
Ted Cruz wasn't asking Rod Rosenstein a serious question on that clip.
He was berating him.
And just shooting off a ton of ridiculous right-wing talking points.
This was done because crews knew that it would be red meat for the right-wing mediasphere.
They would take this and they declared some kind of a heroic victory over this creature of the deep state.
However, in the context of a congressional hearing, Rosenstein does get to respond to things like this, and he did.
You could hear him starting to respond right before Alex cut it off.
jordan holmes
It was a smart idea to cut it off.
dan friesen
Right, because the response isn't good for propaganda, so someone like Alex just cuts the clip right there before Rod Rosenstein has a chance to speak.
This accomplishes presenting Cruz's words as the only reality of the hearing.
His framing of the situation is the only one that's real, and by cutting off Rosenstein's answer, you make it appear that he didn't have a response or a rebuttal.
In reality, Rosenstein said, quote, Oh, that seems really reasonable.
Right.
In the context of the larger hearing, Cruz's words look like a petulant outburst that means nothing, and it's clearly a performance.
But if you isolate the comments and deprive them of any of that context, you can make them appear to be some kind of a meaningful, brave, we're not gonna take it kind of thing, and it's not.
It's just a child throwing a tantrum.
jordan holmes
It's kind of amazing that on this very same episode...
He makes Ted Cruz look exactly like a douche especial, or whatever it is.
Like, that literally open...
Yeah.
I hate him.
But that literally, like, I'm already over my time.
Like, fuck off.
You're just saying dumb nonsense.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Stop it.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
You're stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
It's all, I mean, to use a term Alex likes to use, it's kabuki theater.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's all nonsense.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, for a long time, Alex was really in support of Donald Trump and his family and everybody who maybe touched him.
jordan holmes
God King.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Things have changed.
Alex has already said that he doesn't like Jared Kushner.
jordan holmes
Hates him.
dan friesen
Because Tucker Carlson said some bad things about him, and Alex is, I guess, a really brave, independent thinker.
jordan holmes
That's all you need.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yep.
Lead by following, Dad.
dan friesen
Now it turns out, this is spread.
It is no longer just Jared.
He now also hates Ivanka.
jordan holmes
Yay!
alex jones
I will tell you, I know people that know Kushner, and I know people that know what's going on, and they literally make fun of Trump behind his back, just like McMaster did.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
alex jones
And they're flaming liberals, and they literally have disdain for Trump's supporters.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
alex jones
And really does cook his steaks burned with ketchup and his blue collar in a weird way.
That's what his parents came out of.
unidentified
But Kushner came out of Nazis.
alex jones
His dad's a scammer.
They paid double the 666 building and the Chinese own it.
Kushner is a problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
And I've talked to people about the way Kushner and his wife, Donald Trump's daughter, and they're just what my buddy calls space aliens, really rich, multi-generational money.
jordan holmes
Who's your buddy?
alex jones
The kids, the spoiled rotten snot noses.
jordan holmes
Does he have a telescope?
alex jones
Those that don't just run off and use drugs all day and surf get into politics and things.
They just walk around telling each other how elite they are and looking down their noses at people.
They are elitist trash.
dan friesen
Yeah, hey, guess what?
The only reason they have anything to do with the White House is because of the guy you love so much.
So calm down with this.
And the idea that he's pointing the finger at Ivanka about her multi-generational money.
Where did she get that money from?
jordan holmes
It skipped a generation, Dan!
It's a multi-subtracted generational.
dan friesen
He's complaining about rich kids' children of multi-generational money who get into politics.
Is that exactly the definition of Donald Trump?
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
What the fuck is he talking about?
jordan holmes
He comes from a weird blue-collar background.
He comes from Nazis.
He comes from fucking Nazis.
Shut up.
God damn it.
dan friesen
I love the idea, though, that like, all right, I mean, we could find some mutual agreement in that they got to go.
Like Jared and Ivanka shouldn't be involved in.
unidentified
Agreed.
jordan holmes
Thumbs up, buddy.
dan friesen
Now, we got there different ways.
Alex's path to that is really stupid.
And he's still trying to find some way to preserve...
Trump is serious and he actually does a good job, but he put his daughter in some kind of a weird position that she had no business being in because she's related to him.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Nepotism is bad.
dan friesen
Turns out.
Turns out.
jordan holmes
I'm waiting for it to all be Barron Trump's fault.
I'm waiting for him to be the secret mastermind like some full metal alchemist shit.
dan friesen
I don't think I've ever heard Alex bring up Eric.
jordan holmes
Why would you?
dan friesen
Maybe that means Eric's Alex's source.
jordan holmes
Didn't Donald Trump Jr. already admit to being Alex's source?
dan friesen
No, Alex admitted that he was Cernovich's source.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
And then Cernovich got really mad at Alex.
And that might be why he never is on the show anymore.
jordan holmes
That could be.
dan friesen
I wonder if that's the case.
jordan holmes
I haven't seen it.
It's possible.
dan friesen
Yeah, Cernovich hasn't been on in forever.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I suppose burning your source is probably a pretty legitimate reason.
dan friesen
I gotta walk this back a tiny bit.
Cernovich could very well have been on an episode that I didn't see.
Yeah, that's possible.
That's possible.
I just don't associate him with InfoWars anymore.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Whereas it seemed like there was a period where he was like, he was there a lot.
Anyway, Jared and Ivanka are out.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
They're no longer MAGA.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Yep.
The movement has turned.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
Let me tell you something.
The Democratic Party is the most vapid, thin-skinned, fake group of elitist wannabe garbage you've ever been around, and Jared Kushner is just one of them.
So I care about the president, but let me tell you something.
The president has a blind spot, obviously, for his son-in-law, and they all are hedging their bets for Trump to be removed.
dan friesen
Can you imagine how sad it would be if there was like some, like Obama had put Malia into an official position at the White House, and there was some Obama supporter radio show guy who was like, listen, I love President Obama, but Malia is a problem.
unidentified
Sure.
She is a conservative hiding in the administration trying to take him down.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't...
dan friesen
How stupid is this?
jordan holmes
Can you imagine?
That idea of Molly Obama, like, well, we gotta hedge our bets.
Somebody's gonna take my dad out, and I'm fine with it.
dan friesen
Oh, and let's explore that a tiny bit more.
The idea that Jared Kushner or Ivanka would think that they have a career anywhere near politics once Trump is out.
Like, they're going to survive.
jordan holmes
Dude, no, fuck off.
They're gonna be in the New York Times next year bullshitting their way through.
Very possibly.
If you can publish some bullshit that...
W said, without lighting him on fire first, fine, Ivanka's gonna have an opinion people listen to.
dan friesen
There is a big difference between that and having a position that could affect policy decisions.
jordan holmes
See, that's true.
dan friesen
There is no chance that either of them will be anywhere near any kind of the power that they are now without Trump being president.
jordan holmes
Kushner's running for mayor of New York.
I bet he probably would.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he'd lose.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I hope so.
dan friesen
That's ludicrous.
The idea that they're like, oh yeah, we gotta protect our position if Biden gets in.
What the fuck?
Yeah, Biden's gonna keep Kushner around his special envoy.
unidentified
Hey, you know what?
jordan holmes
Sometimes they move people through, you know, it's non-partisan.
You gotta work for multiple administrations.
dan friesen
Biden comes in and he's like, listen up, Jack!
unidentified
Uh, I'm gonna put this cool kid Jared Kushner, uh, he's gonna solve the Middle East crisis.
jordan holmes
I want him in charge of housing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, cause he's got a great track record there.
dan friesen
Fucking hell, this is so stupid.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
You just take a, just take a second and look at the kind of bullshit that Alex has just, he just says those things.
jordan holmes
God, now it's, now it's just like.
dan friesen
The fucking, fucking arch democrats, Ivanka Trump.
And Kushner.
jordan holmes
Legit waiting for Ivanka to be Biden's vice president.
unidentified
Amazing.
jordan holmes
That's going to happen.
That's going to happen.
dan friesen
So there's a war on religion happening.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is a little bit early because it's only June.
We usually don't get to this until the end of the year.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The war on Christmas happens every year.
The skirmishes break out.
jordan holmes
We're a little bit past Easter, too.
unidentified
That is true.
jordan holmes
What do we got?
What do we got in June for Christianity?
dan friesen
Well, Trump went in front of a church for a photo op.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So that broke out a war on religion.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that.
laura loomer
There not only is a full-blown war on President Trump's administration and conservative values and religious Americans, but there's a war on God in this country.
You have people in this country, Democrats, who are more offended by seeing President Trump take a photo with a Bible in D.C. than they are of the fact that...
alex jones
No, you're right.
This is good versus evil.
Laura Loomer, stay there.
We'll be right back on the other side.
Newswars.com.
dan friesen
I completely forgot that it was Laura Loomer who said that.
I have almost zero respect for her, and she kind of just makes me sad.
jordan holmes
You have more than zero respect for her?
dan friesen
I'm iffy on it, because I respect all people as humans.
I respect people's rights.
I mean more in terms of her work.
jordan holmes
She does bad work.
I get where you're coming from.
dan friesen
And it's just a bummer, generally, to see what she brings to the table in terms of propaganda.
But I wanted to address this point really quick.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
People aren't really offended about Trump holding up that Bible the way that she's pretending they are.
Some people are probably offended by how crass a publicity stunt he was trying to pull off and how transparently he's trying to hide his authoritarian ambitions behind religion.
But I would say that the far larger contingent of people who were offended were so because of how that photo op happened.
It's been widely reported both by people who were there and by outlets like the New York Times that in order to stand in front of St. John's Episcopal Church and give his dumb speech, Trump had a crowd of peaceful protesters dispersed with the use of rubber bullets, tear gas, and percussive grenades.
These were not people breaking into buildings and looting.
They were peacefully assembled.
But because the optics of Trump going to the church and holding up a Bible weirdly were so important, the president enacted state violence on them to get them to leave so he could look strong and undo the damage to his ego that had come from the news stories about him hiding in a bunker.
This is what people are most offended by.
And that includes Reverend Ginny Gerbasi, who used to be a minister at St. John's Episcopal Church.
She described Trump's actions as, quote, a sacrilege for all peoples of all faiths.
Faiths that are grounded in peacefulness and loving, compassion, reconciliation, wholeness, healing, forgiveness, peace, love, compassion.
Gerbasi was there at the church when the police disbanded the people gathered there.
Her response to what she saw was, quote, when I realized that people had been hurt and terrified for a political stunt, I, like, offended hardly begins to describe how I feel.
Also, Reverend Marion Budd, the Episcopal Bishop of Washington, D.C., was not so happy about this stunt.
She told CNN, quote, Let me be clear.
The president just used a Bible, the most sacred text of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and one of the churches of my diocese without permission as a backdrop for a message antithetical to the teachings of Jesus.
She also told the Washington Post, quote, I am the Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington and was not given even a courtesy call that they would be clearing the area with tear gas so they could use one of our churches as a prop.
No one's offended by just somebody being religious, or at least very few people are.
What people get kind of pissed off about is when people use religion as a shield to justify their incredibly evil behavior, and Laura Loomer knows that.
She's pretending not to understand because it riles her base up when she acts like people just hate Trump because he held a Bible.
And riling the bass up and getting people all worked up is what she gets paid to do.
jordan holmes
Everybody forgets the verse at the end of Luke where you...
Okay, so...
Do you think that they moved that giant boulder out of his way?
You can't move a boulder out of that way.
The boulder was too big.
So what happened?
Jesus started firing some bullets into the boulder in order to kind of soften it up.
Then he moved it using his superpowers.
And then he tear gassed his way out of there.
All the Romans died.
He met with his fucking followers.
They created Christianity.
Next thing you know, Trump, done!
dan friesen
If you were a right-winger and you told Alex that, he would probably believe you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's probably true.
dan friesen
That's kind of sad.
jordan holmes
It's beyond parody.
It's just beyond it.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, there's pressing news going on, and that is that Alex has read a Robert Kennedy article about vaccines that are being tested for COVID, and he's got an interesting take.
alex jones
There's a big article by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Infowars.com that needs to be shared.
Man sickest in his life after taking an experimental vaccine.
You know Ian Hayden from many appearances on CNN and other networks celebrating his heroic act of volunteering to test Modera's experimental COVID vaccine.
The sun is now set on Hayden's television career.
He is no longer useful to the pharma media narratives that all vaccines are always safe for all people.
dan friesen
So, it's interesting the spin that Alex is putting on this story, or more accurately, Robert Kennedy Jr. is putting on the story and Alex is just repeating.
The spin is basically this guy got really, really sick and now the vaccine trial is destroyed and no one's going to talk about his story because it hurts the agenda of the vaccine pushers.
That's weird, and it's also not true.
This guy, Ian Hayden, had a story written about his reaction to the vaccine in Stat News back on May 26th.
Apparently, he did get sick after getting the vaccine.
According to his story, quote, 12 hours after receiving his second dose, he developed a fever of more than 103 degrees, sought medical attention, and, after being released from an urgent care facility, fainted in his home.
He recovered within a day.
So it was bad, but not nearly the level of what Alex is trying to imply.
He's trying to make this sound way, way worse.
Hayden said that he, quote, felt more sick than he has ever felt, but, quote, he was never afraid for his long-term health.
He also went on to say, quote, I don't regret the decision to enroll in this study.
What's really tragic is that when Hayden was discussing his decision to go public about his adverse reaction, he explicitly said, quote, I hope that it doesn't fuel any sort of general antagonism towards vaccines in general or towards even this vaccine.
Unfortunately, that's exactly what happened.
jordan holmes
After he wrote that, Yakety Sax started playing.
dan friesen
People like Robert Kennedy and Alex Jones are desperate, shameless hacks.
jordan holmes
I have a counter headline for that.
A hundred and some odd thousand most dead they've ever been in their lives.
dan friesen
That's an interesting headline.
So Alex predicts that he's going to disappear and no one's going to talk about him anymore because he's no longer useful to the vaccine.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But more importantly, Alex just, he just repeats inaccuracies from this Robert Kennedy report.
And it's important to recognize what's going on here.
alex jones
He was among the 15 volunteers in the high-dose group.
with forty-five days three of these a shocking twenty per cent experienced serious adverse events according to madera's press release meaning they required hospitalization and medical intervention Alex can't even remember it's Moderna.
dan friesen
So this is a perfect example of how Alex ends up lying to his audience by never actually checking into any of the information he repeats.
He inaccurately has decided that Robert Kennedy is a trustworthy source, so he just takes anything he says as accurate, which is a bad move.
Here, Kennedy is talking about a Moderna press release and asserting that 3 out of the 15 people in the highest dose cohort in the study had severe reactions.
But if you actually read the press release, here's what it says.
Quote, mRNA-1273 was generally safe and well-tolerated with a safety profile consistent with that seen in prior Moderna infectious disease vaccine clinical studies.
The sole incidence of a grade three adverse event in the 25 to 100 dose cohorts were.
was a single participant in the 100 group who experienced grade 3 arrhythmia, in parentheses, redness around the injection site.
To date, the most notable adverse events were seen in the 250 dose level, comprising three participants with grade 3 systemic symptoms, only following the second dose.
All adverse events had been transient and self-resolving.
No grade 4 adverse events or serious adverse events have been reported.
Alex wants to tell the story that 3 out of 15 people in this trial were paralyzed.
That's what he's implying.
You want to get paralyzed?
But the reality is that there were 3 participants who had reactions that were things like fever or dizziness or the loss of appetite.
This is important and noteworthy because it helps the researchers better understand an optimal dose range.
But it's not the sort of thing that's so severe that it ruins trials or is even terrible news for the vaccine being studied.
More than anything else, it gives more information, which is ultimately a positive thing, particularly because all those adverse reactions were, quote, self-resolving.
Alex has no idea about any of the stories he's telling on his show.
He just has a bunch of extremist sources that he picks headlines from, and then he passes along as factual.
If he were forced to, he couldn't explain anything about this Moderna study or press release.
His knowledge literally starts and ends with the words that he's cold reading from Robert Kennedy's blog.
jordan holmes
And not just that, he believes Moderna means mother.
dan friesen
In Spanish.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Which is correct, actually.
I looked into that.
jordan holmes
Oh, did you?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, shit.
That one's on me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It turns out there's a secret form of Spanish.
jordan holmes
Secret Spanish?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
The globalists have created a fake Spanish that everyone speaks.
jordan holmes
That's what everybody speaks.
dan friesen
But the real Spanish, Moderna means mother.
jordan holmes
The good stuff.
dan friesen
So Alex is actually technically correct on that.
Or a 33rd degree mason.
You know about the real Spanish.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
I didn't see that coming, but all right.
dan friesen
So we're done now with the third.
So it's not...
jordan holmes
Nothing's going on.
dan friesen
No, not too much.
And so we jump into the fourth.
And here Alex starts the show by being kind of disgraceful.
alex jones
It is the 31st anniversary of Tiananmen Square.
When pro-America, pro-democracy demonstrators said we're sick of the Communist Party being our masters, thousands were machine gunned and run over by armored vehicles.
That's a real tyranny when the military comes in to kill peaceful people.
jordan holmes
Holy shit, you moron.
alex jones
Peacefully demonstrating for free speech at their university.
dan friesen
So there's some real comedy in Alex evoking the history of Tiananmen Square, and one of the main reasons for that is that if he were in China at that time, I have no doubt he'd be on the side of the government.
jordan holmes
Love you, Mao!
You are a great guy.
Huge fan.
dan friesen
The image of the protest in Tiananmen Square is really all Alex knows about, the entire piece of history, and he's just filled in the rest with what he wants the story to be.
He wants the protesters to be America lovers and all this because it's an easy, appealing story to tell his audience, but the reality is much more complicated.
The movement that this was a part of grew out of student unrest in Chinese college campuses beginning in 1986.
They had a diverse set of priorities, so getting into all that here would be a bit much to explain right now.
Things really intensified after the death of Hu Yaobang, a high-level politician who was seen as a reformer.
He died on April 15, 1989, and at that point, protests became more serious.
Approximately a week later, rioting and looting...
Various cities in China, which led to the Politburo feeling the need to escalate their response to the student movement.
On April 26th, the People's Daily released an editorial with the headline, quote, It's necessary to take a clear-cut stand against disturbances.
This is more or less a historical equivalent to Tom Cotton's recent op-ed in the New York Times titled, quote, Send in the Troops, which had the sub-headline, quote, The Nation Must Restore Order, The Military Stands Ready.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the New York Times has been awfully pro-genocide a few times in America's history.
dan friesen
The protesters continued to organize and demonstrate, even launching a hunger strike in mid-May.
The state responded by declaring martial law and sending in military against the protests, particularly the students occupying Tiananmen Square.
This is all important context that led up to the iconic image of a man standing in front of a tank.
These things that preceded the standoff can't be ignored when discussing the protests because it so deprives them of their real meaning.
When you look at the events that led to Tiananmen Square, it's easy to see how Alex would be calling for the deaths of the students and protesters.
There had been riots and looting breaking out associated with their movement.
They were calling for an upheaval of the status quo.
The state had made clear their argument for using force against them.
Many of these details, you can draw direct parallels to the current situation in our country, and you see what side Alex is on now.
jordan holmes
Like one-to-one direct parallels.
dan friesen
There's a lot of similarities.
There's some differences, but there's a lot of similarities, too.
And you can see Alex trying to take that legacy and pretend some kind of belief that he has that he wouldn't be entirely in favor of crushing the...
The protests.
jordan holmes
No, it's every conservative who even...
If you say Martin Luther King Jr.'s name and you're a conservative, you should be slapped in the face.
Like, it's pathetic.
How dare you?
dan friesen
So, Alex, to make things even worse, Alex brings up this Tom Cotton op-ed, which he seems fine with.
alex jones
So, Tom Cotton, send in the troops.
We're going to get into his report and what he's talking about.
We're being put into artificial martial law.
We're being put into civil war.
We're being put into lack of law and order so that Trump can be run out of office like Ceaușescu, but he's not a dictator.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
That's why we've got to run him out of office.
dan friesen
You see these rationalizations.
You see the sort of things he would be saying.
jordan holmes
Also, comparing Trump to Ceaușescu, not a good idea.
dan friesen
I don't know why that came to his mind.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
Not at all.
So Alex starts complaining about how CNN wants white children to be sad about being white or something.
I think there's a little bit more nuance to what the argument is.
alex jones
Here's CNN saying we've got to indoctrinate children and teach them to hate themselves and have low self-esteem and to follow orders and to prove to the new church.
Of the new world order that they atone for their original sin, the new religion, the priesthood.
Here it is.
unidentified
I think the important thing for white parents to keep in the front of our mind is that if black children in this country are not allowed innocence and childhood without fear of being killed by police or marginalized in some other way, then our children don't deserve innocence.
If Tamir Rice can be shot dead in a public park playing with a toy gun, something white children do all over this country every day without the same fear of being shot, if Tamir Rice can be killed, then white children need to be told at least at the same age.
We don't get to be innocent.
And if we would keep that in the front of our minds, then perhaps we would be able to hear what black and brown folks are telling us every day and have been for many years.
alex jones
So what he's saying is, if you buy his premise, human sacrifice.
jordan holmes
Oh!
alex jones
A thousand miles away, let's do something wrong here.
There's lots of white kids get shot with guns that look real.
jordan holmes
It's a field goal from the 20-yard line.
alex jones
There's 250 million people.
A few kids get shot a year with toy guns.
And it's all police are bad.
All whites are bad.
dan friesen
What the fuck is that?
jordan holmes
They took a knee in the end zone off the kickoff.
First play at the 20-yard line.
Kick a field goal.
Toss it out there.
dan friesen
Interesting strategy being employed.
All right, Alex.
Okay.
jordan holmes
That's human sacrifice.
dan friesen
I don't think you're making sense.
jordan holmes
That's human sacrifice, Dan.
dan friesen
Also, I tried to find instances of the police killing white children with toy guns.
I couldn't find any.
jordan holmes
Happens all the time.
dan friesen
I couldn't find any.
jordan holmes
Happens all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex is way out of line here, which is not surprising, because he's a big old racist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a big old bigot.
dan friesen
Right.
But there's another group of bigots out there called the Boogaloo Boys.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Bellingcat recently had a nice breakdown of that whole situation if you want to learn more about them.
But if you don't want to learn more about what they're up to, don't worry.
Their fake group, who's just...
jordan holmes
Wait, hold on.
What?
dan friesen
Turns out the left is just using them.
jordan holmes
No, but we found that...
But the Antifa underscore U.S. thing, right?
dan friesen
No, that was Identity Europa, but they're also fake.
It's all fake.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
They have leftist arms inside the FBI that have been setting up these right-wing provocateur groups.
jordan holmes
Leftist arms at the FBI!
alex jones
All the rest of it.
Notorious left-wing organization.
That is outrageous.
Antifa is run by Alexander Soros and George Soros.
We know the organization that controls it.
We know their main website, refusefascism.org, a communist international organization.
Their command and control is all public.
Their stuff's all printed up centrally in San Francisco and New York and D.C. The U.N. is involved.
And we have all the internal documents as well at Infowars.com detailing the entire battle plan.
Documents to tell plan for civil unrest, martial law that was being run by Obama.
And by Brennan.
dan friesen
Your fake-ass 4chan documents.
Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
Yeah, I mean, that's all he's got.
He's presenting it as, like, such the most concrete, solid thing ever.
It's just, fuck you, man.
jordan holmes
Fundamentally, Antifa doesn't exist for you people.
Stop it.
They're just not, they're not real.
dan friesen
Nope.
Alex found some documents on 4chan that proved there's a command and control structure run by Alexander Soros and George Soros.
jordan holmes
It doesn't make sense.
Why would it...
Yep.
dan friesen
Pretty lame.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
I noticed in these two days something interesting.
Actually, I noticed a number of really interesting things.
The first is that Millie Weaver doesn't come back and break her big story.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, she doesn't?
dan friesen
About her two-year-long mole.
jordan holmes
She had tons of documents, Dan.
dan friesen
That doesn't happen.
jordan holmes
She got a mirror server.
dan friesen
Interestingly, also, James O 'Keefe put out a new piece of shit.
And Alex doesn't talk about that either.
But I bet he will soon.
jordan holmes
I hope everybody agrees to just not talk about it.
dan friesen
The Acme brick narrative is gone.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
That hasn't popped back up.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's unfortunate.
dan friesen
And then what was the other one?
Oh, yeah.
I got, you know, Robert Evans tweeted about our coverage of Alex's theory that George Floyd...
It was mixed up with the cop gang that Derek Chauvin was in.
jordan holmes
And it was on Fox News the next day.
dan friesen
Jesse Waters on Fox News was repeating some of these ideas and speculating about them.
He's great.
You know, that narrative is also, Alex isn't pushing that any further.
And I think part of that is because it's made its way to where it needs to go.
It's made its way through the pipeline.
jordan holmes
It's been laundered, and now you can...
dan friesen
And now you have Jesse Waters talking about it and giving it access to far more eyes than would have seen it otherwise.
And I find that really interesting, these absences in terms of what he's doing.
Those are very conspicuous.
It's very strange.
The Acme Brick one in particular.
I think maybe he just realized, like, I can't prove this at all.
That was a weird QAnon person.
jordan holmes
Yeah, bricks aren't going anywhere, and that's a QAnon guy.
dan friesen
That's a weird QAnon person!
jordan holmes
Shit!
Oh, goddammit.
Every time I start trying to be a weirdo, I find out I'm using these weirdos!
dan friesen
And I think it is entirely possible that, like, you know, that sort of talk could lead to violence against ACME employees.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
Because if you believe that Acme Brick is putting these bricks around in order to cause all this trouble, you could see somebody who's unhinged and just believes it.
Seeing somebody who works for Acme Brick and like, you are trying to start a revolutionary war by putting bricks places.
I could see some lawyer being like, you can't do that.
Because if you get pressed on it, all you can do to back that up is point to this QAnon video.
jordan holmes
You can't do this.
unidentified
If someone gets hurt, you are fucked.
dan friesen
I think maybe that might have been.
jordan holmes
Even if a brick gets hurt, he's fucked.
dan friesen
Also, Millie, I'm waiting.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
She's too busy working on the pulling a computer chip out of a homeless person.
dan friesen
Someone's got to do that.
jordan holmes
She's got to do it.
That's their season finale, Dad.
dan friesen
I can't wait.
Serious finale.
So, also, another thing that happened is that Mad Dog, Mattis, Mad Dog, he came out and said that Trump is a threat to the Constitution.
jordan holmes
Yeah, good work, asshole.
dan friesen
Fuck him.
jordan holmes
I'm sick of former Trump.
Blank does blank.
Fuck off.
dan friesen
You're not wrong to feel that way.
It's daylight, dollars short, but you know what?
It really pisses people off who like Trump.
If you're going to get into this trolling game, a high-level general saying this stuff might be worth something.
jordan holmes
Throw a firebomb and then we'll talk, asshole.
dan friesen
Alex can barely even address the story, but he does bring it up a little.
alex jones
You've got Mattis, who I guess has got his paperback book coming out, so he wants to promote it.
jordan holmes
Even Alex can see through this bullshit.
alex jones
Trump's a danger of the Constitution.
We've been overtaken by globalists.
We've had our sovereignty transferred out of the country.
We've had the nation absolutely enslaved.
jordan holmes
What was that, NAFTA?
dan friesen
Good rebuttal.
Yeah.
Yes, I don't know.
I mean, yeah, sure.
I didn't look into it.
I don't know if he has a book coming out.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
dan friesen
It's a reasonable explanation for why somebody would be making press rounds.
I don't know if that's the case.
But yeah, Alex can just invalidate his comment with that and then talk about, we're under globalist slavery.
That doesn't do anything.
So in this next clip, this is really funny.
William Barr, Attorney General Barr, was giving a speech that Alex realized he would have to cover live.
And a big part of that was Alex thinking that he's going to talk about Antifa.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And how, like, ah, we're going to get them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He doesn't really get to that at the beginning of the speech at all.
unidentified
And Alex gets super bored.
dan friesen
Because Bill Barr is talking about how we cannot allow police to behave in the way that led to George Floyd's death.
And Alex is like, this is not working for me.
So here's what he does.
unidentified
Our American criminal justice.
alex jones
You know, this is really all about folks.
unidentified
This must change.
alex jones
In the final equation, it's going to be robots policing you.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
unidentified
Watch.
alex jones
You already saw it with the COVID rollout.
It's going to be ground robots, air robots.
Humans are going to be taking out everything.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
X-Men here?
alex jones
It's colorblind.
Watch.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Are the Sentinels coming?
Is that what's going on?
dan friesen
Is that a RoboCop or something?
jordan holmes
I'll take RoboCop.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He shoots dudes in the dick.
dan friesen
So they get back to Bill Barr's speech.
They go to commercial because they have to, and then they get back to it.
And Barr is talking about there's a difference between protesters and people who are looting.
Sure.
And Alex has to make clear, as Bill Barr is talking, that even the peaceful protesters...
Alex hates them, of course.
unidentified
The large preponderance of those who are protesting are peaceful demonstrators who are exercising their First Amendment rights.
alex jones
And they have that to be idiots.
dan friesen
So, Alex, there is no real difference.
Like, he thinks that anybody who's doing anything hates America.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, whatever.
jordan holmes
It's kind of pointless.
Walk down the street, you hate America.
The end.
dan friesen
So we get to the end of Bill Barr's little segment, and Alex, it ends very frustrated for him because he's not getting what he wants, which is Bill Barr being like, I'm going to arrest George Soros tonight.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
We are going to deal effectively with the criminals who are involved in extremist violence.
alex jones
Okay, well, let's start with George Soros and Alexander Soros.
Obama.
unidentified
Thank you, General, for your leadership.
jordan holmes
Good morning.
unidentified
This is, needless to say, an incredibly challenging time for our country.
alex jones
All right, he's going to go into some politically correct comments.
I can't handle it.
Just turn it off.
dan friesen
So, yeah, let's not hear from the FBI director.
Give him more commentary.
Just PC bullshit.
jordan holmes
Why won't they kill my imagined enemies?
dan friesen
He is pretty mad about that.
It would be frustrating if you...
Told yourself that was what was gonna happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex gets into one of his standard prediction games.
And we see this whenever tensions get really high in the country.
You'll see Alex predict false flags coming.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And one of the functions that this serves is, on some level, Alex knows that there's a really decent chance that one of these right-wing groups, one of these, like, fucking dudes...
jordan holmes
All my buddies know how to build bombs!
Shit's gonna go...
Crazy!
dan friesen
He on some level knows that there's a decent chance that someone will blow something up, someone will do a shooting, or, you know, there will be something.
And he needs to have a preemptive narrative in place.
And so he's building that here.
alex jones
And they have launched more and more escalations.
And the next escalation is assassinating the president or staging giant terror attacks and blaming it on the right-wing patriots.
And they're going to do it!
And are we just going to sit here while the Clintons and the Obamas load up a fuel truck again and blow up a federal building?
Are we just going to sit here while they go and shoot up a black church with some mental patient they got wound up on psychotropics and amphetamines and amnesics in a hotel room right now?
They got brainwashed loony tuners everywhere ready to go.
They punch a couple buttons, it's over.
There's no way to stop their false flags unless the leadership of the globalist is dealt with.
And that's not my place.
I don't do that.
I'm here exposing them, which is dangerous enough.
I'm just telling everybody here that when they start blowing up federal buildings and shooting up black churches and blaming every person in America, and they've already got the military kneeling to the communists, that it's all set for the full overthrow of everything, and that all you idiots that thought you were part of the establishment are going to lose everything you got because the globalists are going to break your back and savage the living hell out of you.
Because they think Americans are a bunch of cowards who they've got on their knees and running.
dan friesen
Really trying to talk quick going out to break there.
I honestly just feel so bored.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that's so boring.
jordan holmes
Can you imagine right-wing gun nuts standing outside of Black Church being like, hey, we're here to protect you, so if any fake white nationalists come here with giant machine guns, we're gonna kill those guys.
dan friesen
Doesn't seem likely.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just, I'm so bored of him.
Like, a lot of this stuff is like...
It's farcical when things are changing.
I don't know if things are changing, but there is a mood in the world that tends towards a possibility of a different future.
There's talk that I've seen of some people wanting to dismantle police departments.
jordan holmes
Yeah, city council members have really been floating that around now.
dan friesen
Dismantling police departments and rebuilding something that serves people better.
jordan holmes
It only took a few hundred years.
dan friesen
Right, but this wouldn't be possible without the people coming out into the streets and the conversations that this provokes.
unidentified
And the idea that we would...
dan friesen
Lose our ability to dream to such an extent that Alex would be like, no, shut this down with the military.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that he would be so defensive of his own white identity and his right-wing shit that he'd just be like, okay, there's going to be a false flag coming up like he does every single time.
He's treating this like any other circumstance that has ever happened throughout his career as opposed to...
I don't know.
Something that has the potential to be something far more important.
jordan holmes
I would rather this country burn to the ground than share my spaces equals with non-whites.
That's what he might as well say.
dan friesen
Just say it.
That might be on some level, subconsciously, where he's coming from.
jordan holmes
That's where all these people are coming from.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has another guest on.
He's been on before, but it's been quite a while.
This dude sucks.
And he's now running for office.
alex jones
All right, I'm really excited to have HotepJesus with us for the balance of the hour.
HotepNation.com.
He is a thought leader.
He's cultivated a loyal following on social media and being honest and genuine and providing knowledge and experience and pulling a lot of great stunts.
dan friesen
Stunts?
So, real name Brian Sharp.
HotepJesus is a real piece of shit that Alex first learned about when he filmed a prank video where he demanded free coffee from Starbucks as reparations.
jordan holmes
Got him!
dan friesen
The whole point of that video is that these employees are such white cucks that they would just give them free coffee.
As someone who used to manage a Starbucks, I can tell you that employees are trained to give free coffee to people who ask because they know that a lot of coffee is just going to get wasted anyway, and the amount of goodwill that can be gained by giving coffee to people in need is far more valuable than demanding payment.
At our store, we had some people experiencing homelessness who would come in pretty much every day and we'd give them coffee and say hi, chat with them for a little bit.
We'd never charge them.
This dude's video was based on a faulty premise, which was used to make a pseudo-racist point, so congrats.
jordan holmes
You guys should really consider...
Calling in the cops to really escalate that situation.
You know, that idea of giving somebody a free cup of coffee, that leads to socialism, Dan.
That is socialist.
That's why we need an overwhelming military police presence to go in there and make sure that that negative four-cent cup of coffee is safe.
dan friesen
I mean, the reason for his stunt in the first place was those two black people who were kicked out of a Starbucks who were having a meeting, and they were like, oh, you're loitering.
And so the whole setup of the video was, hey, I heard Starbucks is racist, I want my coffee, or whatever.
Everything is faulty, and all of it is just counterproductive.
jordan holmes
Great stunt, bro.
dan friesen
Yeah.
An article in the Daily Beast about Hotep Jesus says that in August 2017, he tweeted out that the term, quote, Holocaust denier was created to hide the truth.
He released a video earlier that year where he said, quote, alt-right isn't afraid to call out the Jews and their implications in the destruction of the black community in America.
It's just the truth.
You can't call me anti-Semitic if it's the truth.
He would go on to be a guest on the explicitly white nationalist outlet Red Ice and gave a message to the almost certainly non-existent black audience of that program.
Quote, Jews do not like you.
They hate you.
They think you're shit.
He was a promoter of the Pete's Gate conspiracies.
He's theorized that eating soy makes people gay.
And despite being an anti-Semitic, conspiracy-pushing idiot, he's been hosted by people like Joe Rogan, Laura Ingram, and Turning Point USA.
jordan holmes
Wait.
Hotep Jesus was on Joe Rogan's show?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
I'm guessing that Alex is just having him on because Candace Owens won't return his calls anymore now that she's moved on to the next level of the grift.
jordan holmes
Right, so he needs some, any, just please give me a black person to pretend that what I say isn't insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that this is also like Hotep Jesus is available.
Right, right, right.
Because that was a while back that he was on Rogan.
hotep jesus
Well, first of all, thank you for having me on Alex Jones and InfoWars.
One of the few media outlets to reach out to me.
Actually, the only media outlet to reach out to me.
So let's just put that in frame first.
jordan holmes
Yes, let's.
That is very much in frame.
dan friesen
Let's start off by pointing out that no one wants to talk to me.
I am in low demand.
Let me start off by saying that my voice is not widely sought.
jordan holmes
I must be being censored.
There's no other explanation.
Right, right.
They are trying to silence me.
dan friesen
Let me start off by saying I'm glad you bought my book because I have sold literally zero books.
hotep jesus
Huh.
dan friesen
Maybe it's not a good book.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
So he gets to talking about how, like, don't give money to Black Lives Matter, right?
There's somewhere better you can give your money.
hotep jesus
The first thing I want to talk about is talking to my girl earlier, and she said her friend was asking friends to match her donation to Black Lives Matter.
And I told her, I said, tell her every dollar she sends to Black Lives Matter.
It's going to go towards the destruction of the black family.
If white people want to help in this country, there's only one group I know of that we can trust, in fact, and that is HOTEP Nation.
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
Ah!
Your business.
Oh, I see.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Hold up!
Hold up!
You keep saying Black Lives Matter.
What you need to know is Black Lives Matter, and that life is me.
hotep jesus
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Good.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, you know, you get to talk in here about something that is a reasonable concern, I guess, but it's being used unreasonably.
And that is the fact that these are large gatherings of people, and they're happening while there is still...
A concern about COVID-19 that has not gone away.
And they weaponized this idea a bit in this next clip.
hotep jesus
A couple of weeks ago, government said we had a social distance.
What happened to that, Alex?
What happened to social distancing?
They just told us we had a social distance, but it looks like riots kill coronavirus.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, I wish that were true.
alex jones
Well, that hoax started falling apart, so they didn't want the debate to be about how all these top scientists and governments were coming out saying it was all basically a big lie, so they went ahead and activated the next phase, always knowing there's some bad cop footage.
They then hyped that up, triggered the whole thing, had it primed and ready to distract from the fact that they're going to come back in the fall and next year with the mask and the lockdowns again, because we never had the point of debate to discredit this.
They moved on to the next thing.
dan friesen
Jordan, honestly, I can see in your face exactly what your response is going to be, and go for it.
jordan holmes
There's always going to be a bad cop video!
dan friesen
You just explained it!
unidentified
What a fucking moron!
God damn it!
dan friesen
Thank you, Alex.
unidentified
Way to nail the problem, buddy!
dan friesen
But beyond that, there's a baseline misunderstanding that Alex and Hotep Jesus are engaging in here.
It's still pretty unsafe for people to be out protesting in these big groups just generally speaking while there's still COVID-19 being passed around.
There are steps that I've seen in some protests that would hopefully minimize the risks of infection like people all wearing masks and staying apart as much as they can.
But the reality is that there's probably no way to fully social distance at a protest like this, and that there is a risk of people protesting that they have accepted, because they believe that the underlying cause of the protests and the movement they're pushing are more important and can't be delayed.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
I'd like to take a moment to compare these things to the stay-at-home order protesters that were gathering last month, so I can illustrate why this isn't analogous at all.
Both of these protests are built on a foundation of a cause.
In the case of the current protests, it's police murdering people and police not facing consequences when they do so.
As the protests have been going on, there's been a rash of police brutality directed towards the protesters, which has led to a bit of a broadening of the scope of complaints, which makes sense.
For the stay-at-home protesters, their cause was their ability to shop and go get haircuts.
They weren't rallying for the right to go back to work.
They were rallying to send others back to work so they wouldn't be as inconvenienced so slightly as they had been and felt they were at that moment.
I can understand them feeling intensely about that, but I also really don't agree that it's a very strong complaint.
The relative severity of these two complaints matters.
The act of protesting right now is risky, so for people to commit to doing it, it's important that they have a firm conviction and a meaningful cause.
From my position, the current protesters do have that, whereas the folks from a month ago did not.
And then beyond that, you have to consider the safety measures.
In the case of the protesters from a month or so back, there was a high level of virus denialism among them and a disregard for the idea that their gathering could be a problem.
In the current case, that's not so.
People are wearing masks.
People have been very vocal about how people who feel sick should stay home.
I've seen a number of people imploring everybody who went to go protest to get tested.
jordan holmes
To quarantine afterwards as well.
dan friesen
And like I mentioned, our friend and SNL cast member Chris Redd organized a GoFundMe to help these protesters get tested, to pay hospital bills if they come down with COVID-19.
At the point of this recording, it's raised over $240,000, which will go a long way towards making sure that the people who attend these rallies are able to get tested and thereby know what actions to take if they need to firmly quarantine and what have you.
A large group of people coming together like this for an important cause is not necessarily a terribly dangerous thing, provided the people handle it responsibly.
We'll see how that plays out, but the people who are involved in this protest are very community-minded.
There's a heavy streak of mutual aid that runs through it, and that extends to helping each other and keep each other safe.
So I don't foresee it being as much of a problem as some other large gatherings could be, but it would be foolish to pretend that it's not a risk.
jordan holmes
No, it's absolutely a risk, and it's really a bummer.
Or maybe it's actually necessary.
Maybe the only reason that we can really finally fucking do this shit is because we have been so trapped and so held hostage by the coronavirus and everything has been exposed so desperately.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
But at the same time, it's so awful that this is coinciding with the fucking pandemic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know, and I think it would be impossible to tell.
Right.
Yeah, I just don't.
I've felt this concerned.
I'm pretty worried about the possibility that there could be a sharp increase in cases.
And that would be unfortunate.
jordan holmes
You know, what I was thinking is the words of that dumb fuck lieutenant governor where he's like, the old people are willing to die for the economy.
And in this situation, people are willing to die for the possibility.
Finally having some sort of social justice.
People are willing to die, as we've seen on a daily, nightly basis.
People are either under threat for their lives, or they have been murdered.
This is too big to say no, you know?
dan friesen
Sure.
So, that's a little bit of a misunderstanding.
I can understand where Hotep Jesus and Alex are coming from, but I disagree, and I think that they're...
Using this poorly.
In this next clip, though, we find something that I just think is more intentional and is misinformation.
hotep jesus
When we look at the numbers, if we go to Google Trends and we type in Black Lives Matter and we check Google Trends, you'll see two major spikes.
You'll see one this year, which is happening now, and the last major spike was during the last election year.
So you start to see trends.
And where you have trends, you have cycles.
dan friesen
So Google Trends is an interesting tool, but it's also one that's super easy to misuse, like how Hotep Jesus is right now.
If you go and look at the trends for the term Black Lives Matter, you'll see a spike currently, and one in 2016, which he's asserting is because it's an election year.
That's a fun assumption to make, but the spike in 2016 happened on the week of July 10th, which is just after Alton Sterling and Philando Castillo were murdered by the police.
It's also right after that sniper in Dallas shot at the police, killing five.
There's a good reason why that term was trending at that point.
It has nothing to do with the election, which was months away.
There was also a spike in August 2015.
That wasn't an election year.
It had to do with the aftermath of the Charleston shooting.
Also, there's a very different data set you can find if you search for Black Lives Matter all one word.
So I have no idea what Hotep Jesus is even working off of.
This is an example of him taking some numbers and then writing a story about them that's based on nothing.
It's conspiracy thinking run wild and it basically doesn't mean anything.
But you can do that with Google Trends.
It's really easy to try and come up with an argument based on...
If you don't engage in that level of context, you're just...
Trying to mislead people.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's pure.
Simple.
jordan holmes
And it's such that if you do pull that, half of the people listening to Infowars are like, holy shit, how do you even find Google Trends information?
You know, like, it sounds like you're a tech genius.
dan friesen
This is wizardry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So there's a lot of stuff going on in QAnon circles right now about Hillary having to testify in a case about her emails and such.
jordan holmes
Still, huh?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Still going.
dan friesen
And so Hotep, Jesus has some stuff to say about that.
hotep jesus
A date has been set, was September?
alex jones
Yes.
hotep jesus
What's that date?
September 9th?
alex jones
Let me look it up.
I believe you're right.
On the Hillary ones?
Yeah, it's in September.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
So, I want to say that's a significant date.
We're going to have to...
alex jones
Oh, absolutely.
They're going to have some new big riot or some new federal building get blown up or a mass shooting.
Guys, look up where they moved the Hillary date.
Please?
Thanks.
hotep jesus
Yeah, yeah.
Look at this.
I think something else happened around this date.
Oh, wait.
September 11th.
jordan holmes
Ha, ha, ha.
hotep jesus
You see how they put that date right under something that allowed him to disguise things?
alex jones
Exactly.
jordan holmes
I see how you put that date.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is madness.
This is just meaningless.
alex jones
Blabber.
jordan holmes
Nothing is more obvious than 19 years after September 11th.
That's the golden hour for them.
dan friesen
So I looked into trying to find information about Hillary having to testify, and I found this news being reported on a website called Where is the Buzz?
But it doesn't have any links to anything.
jordan holmes
Murder Hornets.
dan friesen
Sure.
I found another blog called Josh Who News, which explains that this is some kind of a case that was being brought by Judicial Watch.
This article doesn't say that Clinton has to testify.
It's just that the case is currently adjourned until September 9th.
So I found a story about this on CNBC, but it's from March 2nd, so this is kind of old news.
jordan holmes
Right on time.
dan friesen
Apparently what happened is that a lower court ruled that Hillary has to testify in a deposition related to this lawsuit about her emails.
It seems like what happened is that Hillary appealed that decision and the appeals court, which is currently adjourned, will pick up the case on September 9th.
I can't find any reliable evidence that says that she's supposed to testify on that date, but here we are.
We see how these guys report on this stuff.
It's wild speculation and fear-mongering and evoking 9-11.
This is impressively stupid stuff just all around.
jordan holmes
I read Hillary's appeal.
It was pretty short.
It was like, come the fuck on.
You know these guys.
Stop it.
Stop it.
dan friesen
Two words.
Judicial watch?
Question mark?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So Alex plays that video of Hotep Jesus going to Starbucks and...
jordan holmes
Playing the hits.
You know, nobody wants to come hear the new stuff.
Everybody wants to hear the hits.
dan friesen
But unfortunately, right afterwards, Alex really basically undercuts the entire point of the video.
alex jones
That's good.
Everybody's seen it.
It's famous.
But this then makes logical people freak out.
But then we sent our crew member in who's white, and he said, give it to me for reparations, and they did it.
dan friesen
Hi.
It's almost like Starbucks employees are trained to give people free coffee.
unidentified
Maybe this doesn't have anything to do with that.
jordan holmes
That data point really doesn't prove my earlier thing.
dan friesen
No, it kind of tends to indicate to right-thinking people that maybe...
jordan holmes
Maybe they just wanted you to go away.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Maybe that's part of the training.
jordan holmes
Maybe there was a big sigh.
hotep jesus
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Hotep Jesus is talking about how they were all out-of-towners in Minneapolis, and he has not updated his story yet.
He's still working on old talking points.
hotep jesus
We know the governors have come out and said that.
You know, one governor said in Minneapolis, I believe, 95% of the people that were arrested were from out of town.
Soros and his band of goons of Antifa.
dan friesen
Aha!
Soros and Antifa goons.
Did not get the update on that story, Hotep Jesus.
That is old information.
And he's even embellishing it.
I believe the quote was 80% from the press conferences that had to be walked back.
Well, it went up, actually.
jordan holmes
No, it went up.
dan friesen
I'm sure it did.
So there's these bail funds that are going around that are largely for folks who are protesting, who get arrested by the police.
There are tons and tons of those people.
jordan holmes
Like Hotep Nation.
Donating to bail funds, right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I assume.
dan friesen
Hotep Jesus believes that all of this money is just going to rioters and looters.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is not accurate at all.
And then, based on his last statement about 95% of these folks being out-of-towners, based on that being out-of-date, What he says after this, hilarious.
hotep jesus
And you got people that donate to some bailout fund, to bail out protesters.
So basically what you're doing is you're bailing out the criminals who destroyed the black community.
This is what happens when you're ill-informed, when you're not up to date on the information that's available, when you cover your eyes.
And cover your ears at the sight and sound of Alex Jones or the name of Donald Trump.
You are blinding yourself to some facts.
dan friesen
Ooh, you're blind to facts because you're not up to date.
jordan holmes
Man, you know, it seems like he was trying to ironically claim hotep, but man does he live up to being a hotep.
Really lives up to it.
He's going for it, you know?
dan friesen
He's pretty bad.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex asks him what he would tell his daughter, Alex's daughter, who's 12. And this is kind of interesting because you can kind of...
alex jones
What would you say to my 12-year-old daughter asking, is she bad because she's white?
jordan holmes
Donate to Hotep Nation.
hotep jesus
I would tell her...
jordan holmes
Oh, different.
hotep jesus
I would have to explain to her...
The media-industrial complex.
That's what I would do.
I would break down the media-industrial complex and how it can make people believe all sorts of silly things.
dan friesen
So, interestingly, Hotep Jesus complained about the media when he was on red ice, too.
But, you see, that shows a little more openly anti-Jewish than Alex is comfortable being, so he was able to speak a little more freely there.
jordan holmes
Oh, was he?
dan friesen
He said, quote, the only thing that makes white supremacy a thought in people's minds is the media, and the media is controlled by who?
The only thing that makes white supremacy a thing is music, and it's controlled by who?
The movies, Hollywood.
Who controls that?
Black people don't control that.
White people don't control that.
jordan holmes
Oh, I think they do.
dan friesen
Our banking system, when we talk about people got sold out, banks got bailed out, who controls these banks?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is the worldview that Hotep Jesus espouses, and he knows that to make his message palatable to Alex's broadcast, he has to tone that down a little bit.
All the slick bigots do that when they come on Infowars.
You see that from all of these people.
Like, all these folks who are pretty deep into Holocaust denial will never directly say those things on Alex's show because they know that there is enough of an audience that Alex has that you could probably get someone over to you, but if you come out and you're like, six billion is a fake number, if you do that kind of shit, then you're never going to get them to take the first step.
Once they've taken three or four steps in your direction, you might be able to spring that on them and be like...
unidentified
Oh my god, what if?
jordan holmes
They were right all along.
dan friesen
You can't open with that.
And if you're on Alex's show, you're trying to open with the audience.
Alex is there selling his audience to bigots pretty consistently.
And you can't...
It's unjustifiable if you come out swinging with the bigotry.
jordan holmes
Actually, what it says to me is that Hotep Jesus hasn't listened to the show for the past four months.
Because now, swing away, buddy.
Kick that 80-yard field goal.
Go to town.
dan friesen
I still think some people, other than like Steve Pachanek, speak a little bit carefully.
Steve doesn't give a fuck.
jordan holmes
No, Steve doesn't give a fuck.
dan friesen
He's just like, I have humiliated Alex to an extent that is unimaginable.
I could say whatever the fuck I want on this show.
Alex is...
jordan holmes
It's over for him.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So, one thing that I found really interesting, I think Alex might have been eating or something.
But there are a bunch of times when Hotep Jesus is talking and stops talking, is clearly done with a thought, and then Alex does not come in, doesn't chime in, and Hotep Jesus has to then start another thought.
jordan holmes
Is he eating an egg roll back then?
dan friesen
He must be.
I mean, listen to this.
hotep jesus
And we are the consciousness of the black community, the unconsciousness of the black community, the foolishness you see on TV that's purported by the white liberals in the movies and the record labels.
If you look at old-school Tupac Shakur...
dan friesen
That's very weird for Alex's show.
That is something I almost never hear.
And that's not an instance of someone politely letting their guest speak.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That was a four-second pause of dead air where Alex...
unidentified
He must not have been at his desk or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's very bizarre.
That's not...
That's just...
jordan holmes
He was eating.
He was hoping that he could ride it out for a little bit longer.
dan friesen
I mean, it's possible.
jordan holmes
I mean, so many of his guests are willing to just talk and talk and talk for no fucking reason.
dan friesen
It's true.
There was a natural end to that thought, and then a pause, and then the starting of another thought.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because he thought Alex was going to come in and say something.
jordan holmes
Well, Alex is very used to people having a natural end of a thought.
dan friesen
That's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we end this clip, well, end this episode, and end this, our episode.
unidentified
Oof.
dan friesen
This is the last clip.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
This is 2020.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, it ends exactly how you'd expect it to end.
alex jones
It's been a year since you came on.
I want you to be a regular guest.
Please come back next week.
Do a special report with us.
jordan holmes
Give him a show.
alex jones
Commercial free podcast.
You want to do it soon?
hotep jesus
I'd like to do something really big with you with Uncle Hotep.
I'd like to do something in studio with Uncle Hotep.
Let's throw a budget.
Let's do something.
Let's create some really awesome viral content.
alex jones
You name the time.
If you're ready to jump on a plane, please come.
I'll finance it.
HotepNation.com.
We love you.
We appreciate you.
Godspeed.
dan friesen
This might be one of the only instances where Alex offers to give someone a job and they really take him up on it.
He sounds interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he does.
I would like to point you back to the very beginning of his interview when he said, no other media outlets are calling.
He is not busy.
dan friesen
There might be a bookend situation here.
I find this really interesting.
You have very little progression in terms of interesting things about the narratives that Alex is pushing or building around this.
Just an anger at protesters, a resentment about Secretary of Defense Esper not wanting to use the Insurrection Act.
That's kind of all that we're in.
But at the same time, we're running out of time.
There is no time left.
That's still that intensity.
And an interview with two weirdos who are running for office and Hotep Jesus.
It's like, alright.
These are the folks you want to talk to?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Great.
So, I don't know, man.
We'll be back.
What are you doing?
You're staring at me.
jordan holmes
You said we'll be back!
dan friesen
Hey, look, dude.
unidentified
I'm really pissed off.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
You leave me hanging like that.
jordan holmes
You say, we'll be back, and then you do the...
dan friesen
It's not like you had another thought, man.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
You're killing me.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
You're going to get me killed.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll have another episode soon.
jordan holmes
I'm going to do 30 years.
I'm going to do 30 years for you.
dan friesen
But we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And then find a local fund in your area to help with bail or anything that you possibly can.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZ.
ZXClark, I'm the juiciest ice cube.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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