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June 1, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#439: May 29-31, 2020

Knowledge Fight’s #439 episode dissects Alex Jones’ May 29–31, 2020 broadcasts, where he falsely blamed Soros and China ("SHICOMs") for Minneapolis protests, ignoring KARE 11’s jail records showing local arrestees. Jones peddled debunked claims—like Omar Jimenez’s secret China ties or bricks delivered by Soros operatives—while cherry-picking FBI crime stats to push racist narratives. He amplified a Dallas beating as white victimhood, despite the armed attacker’s role, and promoted Millie Weaver’s baseless "IIA operation" election conspiracy. The hosts mock his hypocrisy, fearmongering, and profit-driven extremism, warning his rhetoric fuels violence and distracts from real systemic issues. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 24:16
d
dan friesen
01:29:17
j
jordan holmes
24:14
Appearances
b
bill cooper
00:52
m
millie weaver
02:00
o
owen shroyer
winn 01:06
t
tim enlow
00:44
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish in Colorado Huge fans.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed, we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
What's your bright spot for today?
dan friesen
Well, this is trivial, maybe.
Certainly.
Almost anything probably would be, but you know what I recently discovered?
jordan holmes
What did you recently discover?
dan friesen
So I didn't realize I'm a dipper.
I like to dip things.
jordan holmes
You like to dip things.
dan friesen
Yes.
Typically with sauces, I like to dip them.
jordan holmes
You are not a constellation of any sort.
dan friesen
No, maybe.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I get what you're saying.
I don't know how to roll with it.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I'm going to be an Alex Jones improviser here and be confused by what you're saying.
jordan holmes
Next.
Move on.
dan friesen
So generally, when I, like, let's say I have some frozen chicken nuggets, right?
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
And I get it and I dip.
jordan holmes
You like a sauce?
dan friesen
But I never considered like the way that most people have wings is the sauce is on the wings, right?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I was like, how do you do that?
Do you just put the sauce on there?
Do you squeeze it on there?
jordan holmes
Pour it on there.
dan friesen
I didn't realize that if you have Tupperware, you can put the sauce and the chicken fingers and just shake it.
jordan holmes
Ziploc bag works too.
dan friesen
Very all there.
See, whole new world.
jordan holmes
Seems obvious.
It seems obvious.
But let me ask you a question.
dan friesen
At 36 years old, I finally realized you could shake sauce onto things at Tupperware.
jordan holmes
Look, just saying, lifetime.
How much Tupperware do you have?
Have you ever?
dan friesen
I've had a lot.
Well, I mean, not a ton, not as much as my mom, probably.
But like, I have gotten periodically, I will get a couple things of Tupperware and then just throw them away.
They will end up not getting reused to something that will just sit in them or something.
I was like, I can't.
This is beyond washing.
jordan holmes
That's the bougiest thing you do.
Throw away Tupperware.
That's your luxury.
dan friesen
It feels necessary.
It's been a long time since I've done that, though.
The Tupperware that I have now, I've had for a bit.
Right, right.
They've been a little bit better as I get older.
But for a long period of time, it was just like, yeah, this can't be cleaned.
This can't be washed.
So how about you?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
You know, I've been trying to think of one for the entire walk.
I suppose a lot of bright spots going on now.
You know, my bright spot is how many bright spots are going on.
There's just too many bright spots going on right now.
dan friesen
This is a little bit of a cop-out.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
We went to bed at a comfortable time last night.
We've been staying up till three or four every morning, just anxious and nervous.
And then last night we were just like, I can't hang right now.
dan friesen
You got to celebrate the renormalization of your rhythm.
jordan holmes
Just trying to sleep.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's my bright spot.
dan friesen
All right.
I'll take it.
I'll accept.
So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
I'm sure people are hotly anticipating whatever bullshit is going to happen here.
We're going over May 29th, 30th, and 31st, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
God damn it.
Normally, there wouldn't have been an episode on the 30th because that was Saturday.
But Alex realizes that he's going to strike while the iron's hot.
jordan holmes
Emergency.
dan friesen
Emergency broadcast.
Of course.
Not that interesting, but we'll still go over it.
Today is about there's a lot of stuff that is about what you'd expect.
A lot of stuff is stupid.
A lot of stuff is very transparently racist in nature.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And we'll get down to business on all of it.
But first, Jordan, we got to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, Evan L. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Evan.
dan friesen
Thanks, Evan.
Next, Logan F. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Logan.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Emery P. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Emery.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, James C. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, James.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Leslie, no last name.
Like, share.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Leslie.
dan friesen
Thank you, share.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Next, Nick W. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Nick.
dan friesen
Next, Thomas, the political Martian.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
All right.
Thank you, Thomas.
dan friesen
Is that Marvin?
jordan holmes
Hey, that's Marvin.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
That's as close to Marvin as I can.
dan friesen
Marvin, the apolitical Martian.
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
So James W. Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And David, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Cryke mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brood.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full-tailed buggy on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, James W, and thank you so much, David.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show.
I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show, or more importantly, probably find a local charity in your area, perhaps a bail fund for protesters around this country and take that generosity and throw it in that direction.
jordan holmes
Please do.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today, like I said, fuck Seltzers for today.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
Fuck Seltzers.
dan friesen
Like I said, we're going into this 29th.
It's Friday of last week, Saturday and Sunday to get us fully up to speed where we are as things have escalated and deteriorated in many cities around the country.
We'll see what Alex's take on it is.
But before we do, here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
Live from Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide.
It's Millie Weaver and Alex Jones.
Let's hear it from the computer.
unidentified
From Austin, Texas, broadcasting worldwide.
It's Alex Jones.
dan friesen
There's just something fun about Let's Hear It From the Constitution.
jordan holmes
Let's hear it from the computer.
dan friesen
From the computer.
Let's hear it from the computer.
So we start off.
jordan holmes
I can't wait to speak to you, Alex.
dan friesen
We start off on Friday, and at this point, things have gotten much more serious than they were on Thursday.
tim enlow
Sure.
dan friesen
Although, that's not to say that by the time Alex was on IR Thursday, there weren't some indications that things were pretty serious.
But he didn't.
I don't think Alex, and I'll be fair, I'll include myself in this.
I don't think that anyone, well, maybe some people, but let's just keep the subset to me and Alex.
I don't think he and I could have predicted necessarily that things would go as things would accelerate as quickly as they have.
And so he didn't have as much of a hard take on things on the other side.
jordan holmes
He thought he could ignore it for the most part.
dan friesen
I mean, he certainly did in the preceding days.
Well, the George Floyd killing and then the people who were speaking out against it.
He ignored it until the point where he couldn't.
And now it's a big deal.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
On Friday, it's a big deal.
And you know what that means.
It's time to shift narratives.
alex jones
Now we're on record.
Documenting this, and here's an article that I've promoted probably 500 times on air since 2018.
Documents to tell plan for civil unrest and martial law in Baltimore, Maryland.
Leaked documents show to tell plan to trigger nationwide unrest, allowing Obama to declare martial law in 2018.
One month after we got these documents, it was confirmed by federal law enforcement.
They were accurate.
The media never disputed them.
Trends of Democracy run by Alexander Soros.
Trying to trigger with antifa operatives, black Americans, rioting as the cover to overthrow major city governments so Obama would have a pretext to declare national martial law in 2018.
Ahead of the election.
It did not go the way they wanted to.
dan friesen
It seems.
So I had a little prediction while I was watching things unfold on Thursday and Friday night, and that was that Alex is now going to have to take things a little more seriously, like I said, and thus we're about to start hearing more about Soros again.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is the value of Alex's strategy of having his whole list of villains that he can pull out whenever he needs to.
For the last four months or so, Soros has been kind of on the back burner because the relevant kind of fear he was trying to exploit in his audience wasn't really germane to the characterization of Soros.
The medical tyranny and the evils of vaccines, those are in the Bill Gates wheelhouse.
So Alex focused almost entirely on Bill and Melinda Gates, and, of course, the new villain, Anthony Fauci.
Please remember that the first time Alex mentioned Fauci on an emergency broadcast on February 8th, Alex was pretending that Fauci had said that they were investigating if the coronavirus was man-made and that he was a hero within the administration.
Once it became clear that this was all bullshit that Alex was making up, Alex pretended he never said any of those things and Fauci became a longtime Gates employee who was trying to kill everyone.
jordan holmes
You don't need to work.
dan friesen
Because this is how this works.
It's just fucking make it up as you go along.
Alex even decided that Bill Gates was the head of the New World Order and had been for the past 12 years or so.
Alex claimed that Gates reportedly had been a committed Satanist at the age of 10 and he was taking over with his pink sweater.
It was the season of going very hard against Gates and Soros got very little play.
Now that we have societal unrest and protesting, we now find ourselves outside of the Gates wheelhouse.
Alex can't credibly claim that Bill Gates is paying Antifa protesters to go around and cause trouble because his audience already has been trained to really only associate that narrative with Soros.
And thus, as Alex opens his show on Friday, Soros is called off the bench.
As anyone who's listened to our show for any stretch of time knows, these Soros Antifa contracts Alex is talking about are very fake.
One of the least competent underlings Alex has, Harrison Smith, found them on 4chan.
No federal law enforcement has ever confirmed they're real.
Alex is making that up.
Also, I'm not sure what he means when he says no media has ever disputed them because we're media and I sure as shit dispute them.
I've disputed them this whole time very publicly and mock the very idea of someone drawing up a contract to start riots.
The notion that that's something that anyone would ever put down into paper is laughable.
The reason you enter into a contract with someone is so that you can take action against them in court if they fail to live up to their obligations.
A contract would serve literally zero purpose if someone failed to start a riot.
It's fucking stupid.
I would assume the absence of coverage of these fake documents in the larger media is more a function of them being completely and transparently fake.
Seems like something that most media outlets wouldn't waste their time with.
Us, on the other hand, have nothing but time to do it.
jordan holmes
That's what we got.
That's what we fucking do.
dan friesen
So, hey, I dispute this.
I dispute this fully.
jordan holmes
You know, I feel like the media has not yet refuted the details of the treaty between the elves and the orcs either.
And I feel like that's something that they've been silent about.
dan friesen
Has Eisenhower gone on record about his meeting with aliens?
Has he disputed that?
unidentified
He sold out the South Americans to the aliens to the grave.
jordan holmes
Essentially, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, there's all those kinds of things.
There's all sorts of things that are totally true because they've not been refuted.
jordan holmes
Has anybody checked on the Ark of the Covenant recently?
unidentified
Who knows what contract that is going on?
dan friesen
I saw a contract with him to ship to his.
He moved a couple years back.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And he hired some movers, and they had to sign a non-disclosure contract about shipping the Ark of the Covenant.
jordan holmes
I assume they also had to sign a don't look at the Ark of the Covenant contract as well.
Otherwise, they would be sued for their face melting.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that.
So Alex is going to now enter into the season of trying to make a conspiracy theory out of this.
He's going to talk about the protests and the riots and make them into the work of Metal and Globalists and Soros operatives and what have you.
jordan holmes
Is this the same thing?
If you knew this was coming, then it's globalist operator.
dan friesen
You knew this was fucking coming.
Like, we've done this rodeo before, just not at this level.
Like, not with this sense of intensity and severity.
For sure.
So we get into this next clip, and Alex starts weaving also conspiracies about the killing of George Floyd itself at the center of the case.
alex jones
But the local police are not our enemy.
Anybody that's lived long enough on average knows that.
But cops don't put up with bad cops very long.
And it happened in Minnesota that the media has hyped up.
Now is becoming more and more suspicious.
Turns out these two knew each other very well, worked as bouncers at a club together for several years.
And anybody with half a brain knows you put your knee on the carotid artery of somebody.
That's not a police-trained tactic.
That's how you kill somebody.
dan friesen
So Alex saying that the local police aren't the enemy, that's all good and well, but it's kind of counter to his entire self-mythology.
According to his telling of his own life story, he uncovered an elaborate drug dealing ring in the police department in Dallas, which led to a lawyer calling Alex's dad and telling him that the police were going to kill Alex, and that led to them moving to Austin.
Alex's life story in the beginning of his career is at odds with his current state.
Obviously, I don't believe that that's why Alex moved to Austin, but it's telling that the corrosive effects of supporting Trump has led him to more or less forgetting who he's supposed to be pretending to be.
As for that news item about George Floyd and the cop, Derek Chauvin, knowing each other, that's something that Alex is probably misreporting a bit.
This is something that's based on some comments from Maya Santa Maria, who owned a club in Minneapolis called El Nuevo Rodeo.
She told the local news outlet that both of these men worked at that club, which many folks took to mean that they knew each other and this must have been personal.
This is ignoring the full content of Santa Maria's comments.
Quote, they were working together at the same time.
It's just that Chauvin worked outside and the security guards were inside.
Alex is also wrong about them working together for several years.
Even the Blaze included the information in their article that Floyd only worked there for, quote, roughly a year.
It's definitely interesting, and I'll need to wait till there's more information to draw any strong conclusion from it.
But, I mean, Santa Maria told the local news outlet that she did not know if the two guys knew each other, and it's entirely possible that they didn't.
She said there were dozens of guards on busy nights, like when their shifts would have overlapped, so it's entirely possible that they never met, or if they had, they were only distant acquaintances.
This story is being used by some to try and argue that this was a personal beef, and thus it shouldn't fall into the same category as other instances where a white cop kills an unarmed black person.
I think that's a losing strategy, and it'll ultimately backfire if you think about it for even a second.
If it turns out that this case was something where the cop killed George Floyd for a personal reason while utilizing the power and authority of his badge to protect himself, the situation is far worse than it looked before.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, that's totally fine.
dan friesen
The idea that he felt that he could get away with acting like that in clear view of his co-workers and expected he wouldn't pay any consequences for it.
That's more or less an encapsulation of the problem.
Whether or not these two knew each other is an interesting thing we may learn more about in the future, but regardless, it doesn't change the facts of the situation one bit.
So if Alex is trying to trot that out, or as some kind of, you know, like, this is, oh, it's something else.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
It's not something else.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit like saying that, you know, it's like domestic abuse is fine for cops to get away with because, see, it's personal.
You know, it's not them using their badge to get away with this kind of shit.
It's personal.
It's their personal life.
And it's like, no, I'm still going to go with that.
It's fucked up.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I thought that that was like bad, but it's kind of standard.
I think you're seeing a lot of people float these kinds of things out.
I didn't realize where Alex was going to go from there.
He takes that little bit of misinterpreted news and he just builds on it to the point where it's like, good luck fucking defending this conspiracy theory, Alex.
alex jones
To me, this looks like some type of inner gang operation.
And you're probably going to find there's corruption going on and this is some kind of weird police gang hooked into organized crime.
So, because I mean, why would you kill somebody on camera?
Why would you just ha go to report to somebody passed in fake 20s and then kill him on camera?
dan friesen
Here we see Alex correctly assess that there's something completely fucked up about this situation.
jordan holmes
Very odd.
dan friesen
Yeah, the fact that the cop knew he was being filmed and still behaved the way he did.
In an attempt to explain this away, Alex has decided this must be a case of a police gang who's feuding with another imagined gang that George Floyd was apparently in.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
This is absurd, and it's based on nothing.
But beyond that, this conspiracy theory really reveals how bad Alex is at his job.
Claiming that this was a gang-involved killing does literally nothing to explain away the thing that he's claiming to find suspicious in the original story.
If this were a gang involved murder, you'd probably assume there'd be even more reason not to do it on film.
And honestly, probably not to do it while you're on shift as a cop in public.
You would think that would ultimately lead to an investigation, which would likely reveal the existence of this cop gang that you're probably trying to keep a secret.
Alex's conspiracy is supposed to explain why the cop did this, even though he knew he was on film, but it doesn't achieve that goal.
All it does is create a possibly more intriguing, but ultimately very difficult to prove distraction from reality.
Because let me tell you, now Alex needs to establish that there is a police gang in Minneapolis, the Wolverines, that this cop was a member of the police gang.
jordan holmes
He had a tattoo.
dan friesen
That all the other members, the officers there, were also members.
That George Floyd was in a gang, that these gangs have a reason to commit one of the dumbest murders imaginable.
jordan holmes
I got nothing for those two.
dan friesen
Like, what sort of gang trouble do you think would rise to the level of a cop in uniform killing someone in the street with tons of people around and people recording it?
You'd think it would have to be something really serious.
Like, I don't know, Floyd was going to provide evidence to the Attorney General about the cop gang or something.
Like, right?
You have to spin some elaborate narrative now.
jordan holmes
Somebody robbed an M ⁇ M store and they really take those seriously.
dan friesen
Right.
That seems silly.
Yeah.
You know, you can easily see how this might be fun for conspiracy theorists to think about, but it's pure speculation to avoid a very easy to come up with explanation for why the cop did this, even though he knew he was on tape.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He didn't care.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He didn't think there would be any consequences.
Like, maybe you can make an argument that he didn't actually think that Floyd was going to die, but that still requires you to accept that he took Floyd's words and those of the concerned onlookers not seriously enough to consider.
And it would be very easy to see how he would think that there wouldn't be any consequences.
There rarely are for police who brutalize people of color.
And early in his career, he never even got the chance to learn this lesson.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I mentioned on the last episode, but in 2008, the same cop, Derek Chauvin, responded to a domestic disturbance call.
When the police arrived, the guy who had the police called on him, Ira Tolls, ran for the bathroom.
According to his telling of the story to the Daily Beast, Chauvin and the officers entered the house unannounced.
Then Chauvin kicked at the door of the bathroom.
When he got in, he started hitting Tolls, who instinctually fought back.
Quote, I didn't know what to think when he started hitting me.
I swear he was hitting me with the gun.
Chauvin shot Tolls in the stomach because he claimed that Tolls reached for an officer's gun.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Tolls told the Daily Beast, quote, if his first reaction was hitting me in the face, then it means I can't see and I'm too disoriented to first locate his gun and then try to take it from him.
And for what?
To turn a misdemeanor, disorderly situation into a felony situation that could have resulted in me dying?
He tried to kill me in that bathroom.
There were no real consequences for this, which teaches a lesson that there aren't consequences for this sort of thing.
He just got paid, he got put on paid administrative leave while there was an investigation that didn't result in any consequences.
Basically got a vacation.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I find it substantially easier to believe that a cop with a record like Chauvin's living in an America like the one we've been living in just didn't give a shit about hurting people.
That's easier to believe than this completely baseless conspiracy about imagined feuding gangs that Alex is coming up with.
jordan holmes
So wait, that was 2008?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, obviously, good cops don't allow bad cops to stay in their ranks for very long.
They root them out really quickly.
dan friesen
I think that was the thing I sensed you got the most angry.
jordan holmes
I wasn't a fan of that one.
I wasn't a fan of that.
I was surprised you didn't bark.
I came close, but we're recording fairly late.
dan friesen
That's true.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
On a Sunday.
dan friesen
Yeah, we might be breaking curfew.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm trying.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is pretty pathetic work on Alex's part, if you really have to look at it.
But you can see how now that he has an angle on the story that he thinks diffuses the race issues, he's completely comfortable dropping the whole like, cop didn't know what he was doing bullshit.
That was only his angle on Thursday because he couldn't come up with anything better to defend whiteness.
That's all he had.
And now he's like, oh, you know, hey, there's probably some sort of an inner gang thing.
So that's pretty bad.
jordan holmes
It's just so, it's so bald-faced whenever you're attacking the very cornerstone of the all-cops argument, which is that if you want to argue there are good cops, then why are they doing everything humanly possible to protect murderers?
So that's the cornerstone.
And for you to say at me, to my face, they don't suffer bad cops there for very long.
unidentified
Fuck off.
dan friesen
Well, and the other problem.
Fuck off.
That's one problem, but the other problem is that that's a contradiction of Alex's entire life story.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Like, it's ridiculous to be this idea of like, yeah, good cops don't put up with bad cops.
Like, you got run out of Dallas by bad cops who are entrenched, according to you.
jordan holmes
Like, one of them was the chief.
If you were correct, then you wouldn't have needed to do the thing that you think you're a hero for doing.
dan friesen
You never would have moved to Austin.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Go back to Dallas, asshole.
dan friesen
Sure.
No, don't force Dallas on.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, Dallas.
I wouldn't do that to you.
dan friesen
So Alex gets into playing some video of the fire at the 3rd Precinct police station in Minneapolis.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he has some won't-you-think-of kind of fire.
alex jones
Here you go, folks.
You got the fireworks going off in celebration of the police station burning down.
And then the businesses and the community will just move out of that area and you got another dead zone.
dan friesen
So on Thursday night, protesters in Minneapolis took over the 3rd Precinct police station and set it ablaze.
The image of that was something I could have never imagined being possible.
I never thought in my lifetime I would see a police station captured.
That's where the police are.
That's where they keep their guns.
It did not seem like a possibility.
I was shocked.
Leaving my amazement aside, there have been some responses from business owners in the area, and some are not happy, but others have responded pretty amazingly.
The Gandhi Mahal Indian Restaurant was one of the businesses that caught fire that night.
The owner's daughter posted on Facebook, quote, Don't worry about us.
We will rebuild and we will recover.
Referring to her father, she said, quote, I hear him say on the phone, let my building burn.
Justice needs to be served.
Put those officers in jail.
And then there was the Target, which was the site of the initial looting that so scandalized the right wing.
Think about the Target, they said.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
Their CEO, Brian Connell, put out a press release that started, quote, We are a community in pain.
That pain is not unique to the Twin Cities.
It extends across America.
The murder of George Floyd has unleashed the pent-up pain of years, as have the killings of Ahmad Arbery and Breonna Taylor.
We say their names and hold a too long list of others in our hearts.
As a target team, we've huddled and we've consoled, and we've witnessed a horrific scene similar to what's playing out now and wept that not enough is changing.
As a team, we've vowed to face pain with purpose.
He went on to reaffirm Target's commitment to the affected store and neighborhood.
Quote, our store and HR teams are working with all of our displaced team members, including the more than 200 team members from our Lake Street store in Minneapolis.
We will make sure they have full pay and benefits in the coming weeks, as well as access to other resources and opportunities within Target.
We'll continue to invest in this vibrant crossroads of Seward, Longfellow, Phillips, and Powderhorn communities, preserving jobs and economic opportunities by rebuilding and bringing back the store that has served as a community resource since 1976.
I mean, that's corporate Target talk, but that's still a pretty nice statement.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's a nice statement.
I don't believe a fucking word of it, but fine.
We'll see.
Or at least I don't believe a word of it in a month.
dan friesen
We'll see.
There are almost certainly some businesses that will be hesitant to reopen or want to relocate, but it's not a universal thing.
Many realize the larger reality of what's going on in the country and are responding by attempting to reaffirm their commitment to the communities they serve.
These are the sorts of voices that are inspiring to hear and kind of allow me to tune out Alex's angle as all right, there's you know, there's trouble, but it's not, yeah, yeah.
Really, what he's trying to do is shame the protesters with ideas that they've driven business out of their community, which is a very standard response for people in events like this.
jordan holmes
You're hurting your own community, and doesn't that make you ashamed of yourselves?
dan friesen
The LA riots happened before Alex Jones was ever on air.
But guess who was on air at that time?
jordan holmes
Bill Cooper.
dan friesen
You bet.
So after that, Bill Cooper took to his show after the policemen who beat Rodney King were found not guilty and the riots broke out.
bill cooper
And here's part of what he had to say: I have to tell you, folks, no business, no businessman in his right mind will ever go back into south-central Los Angeles and open a grocery store, supermarket, a discount store, an electronic store, a stereo store, any kind of store.
It's not going to happen.
It is not going to happen.
dan friesen
Whenever a group of protesters engage in property damage, you'll ultimately hear people on the right making this argument.
And it's kind of hard not to just hear it as a form of scolding.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
People on the white, as I said.
dan friesen
Right.
I was considering playing or talking much more about Bill Cooper's response to that, the riots that broke out after the acquittal of those police officers.
But I just, I didn't feel like it would be an episode.
Bill's response to it is very complicated and very different from Alex's, in as much as he completely understands the reasons and the plight that these communities were in.
And he thinks that anybody who supports the acquittal of those officers is categorically a racist.
Has some strong stances that he takes on that, but he also has the very similar take that Alex has towards the progression that the protests took.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is an encapsulation of that right-wing white flight, that idea of like something in my neighborhood has changed.
I am not going to spend a single dime helping to rebuild it or changing with it or growing as a person.
I'm leaving.
So him saying that is him saying what he would do.
I would leave.
Not that other people would stay and see what was going on and want to maintain the community and create something new.
dan friesen
Something he kept saying, Bill Cooper kept saying over and over again is you've scared the middle class.
Oh, fuck.
And it's very, it would be like an incredibly difficult thing to unpack his approach to it.
It's like there's moments of like, you get it.
And then there's moments of like, oh, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
But you're still an old white dude.
dan friesen
Right.
It's like, oh, wow, it's amazing how empathic and insightful you are on a couple points.
And then you pivot that into blaming Rodney King for driving drunk.
Right, All right.
jordan holmes
He's just grantorino-ing, you know, that kind of thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's too much to throw in when we have all this on our plate already.
So Alex wants to play another standard conspiracy game here on the 29th.
And that is that, hey, everything that happens in the world that maybe is threatening to my worldview, all that stuff, maybe it's really a distraction.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Remember that while we're all focused on Los Angeles and Minneapolis, St. Paul, having riots and murders and attacks and massive racial attacks on white people, nobody's covering that.
While all that's going on, video has come out of Joe Biden in China saying we need China to take over the United States.
That's coming up.
dan friesen
I'm not sure that Alex ever does get back to that video.
I don't know.
I listened to most of this episode.
I did end up turning it off a tiny bit early because I was just sick of it.
But I don't know if he got to it, and I don't care.
It's not important.
But I want to take a second here to show how Alex is saying there were a bunch of murders and racial attacks on white people that no one's covering.
jordan holmes
No one's talking about it.
dan friesen
Now, this is interesting because if I'm not much mistaken, Alex is currently on a nationally televised program.
If he's upset that no one's covering this, he should be covering this himself.
And when you realize that he's not, things start to come into focus.
Alex isn't covering specific details, but he claims that he's aware of tons of murders and anti-white violence.
Yet I don't see these specifics being brought up because he's there to make up a talking point.
jordan holmes
No one in the mainstream media is talking about it.
No one.
No one is talking about it.
dan friesen
Bingo.
jordan holmes
And I would talk about it, but that's not my job.
Who would listen?
dan friesen
That is the talking point.
The point of the story is that no one in the media is covering the murders and anti-white violence.
That's the whole story that Alex is covering, not the underlying events he claims to be upset Upset about no one covering.
If Alex had these stories and he's not covering them, then conceivably he's just as bad as all the other media outlets he's complaining about.
You would think he's on air right now.
He can be specific whenever he wants, and he doesn't because he doesn't want to.
All he's seeking to impart to his audience is the general feeling that there's a massive cover-up of murder and violence against whites going on to give them a further incentive to demonize the underlying point of the protests.
Quite simply, it's an expression of his white supremacy.
jordan holmes
No one in the media is covering this, and to prove it, neither will I. Right.
dan friesen
I mean, like, in terms of, like, when I was getting this episode together, like, the concrete instances of, like, deaths that I could find, there was that guy in Detroit who was a protester who got shot by someone driving by in a gray Dodge Durango, and he died.
There was a security officer, a contracted security officer in Oakland who was shot, but again, it was by someone in a vehicle who opened fire.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That incident's under investigation, but in terms of what I can find, there's nothing solid connecting this with any protesters.
And then Fox News reported on an alleged St. Louis man who died after being dragged under a FedEx truck.
But that guy was a protester as well who got run over.
So, like, I don't know how.
jordan holmes
Well, FedEx is obviously globalist, and they're inciting people to get a lot of money.
dan friesen
None of these seem to be like a bunch of murders that Alex is rambling about.
It seems like mostly police beating people up and property damage.
jordan holmes
Well, what their real problem is, is that protesters aren't killing people.
Because if they were killing people, man, they could really make hay out of it.
Instead, protesters are just hurting buildings.
They don't like that.
dan friesen
Well, it makes it too clear the like property rights over everything kind of mentality of so many people on the right.
But whatever.
I don't particularly care to even engage with his complaints about anti-white racial attacks because his definition of that is meaningless.
Anything done to a white person is a racial attack when he wants it to be.
So I'm sure he'll try to say that that guy who was waving around a bow and arrow on Sunday and got beat up was the victim of anti-white attacks of course he was.
jordan holmes
Of course he was.
dan friesen
That on Saturday, I can't remember.
jordan holmes
What kind of idiot would flail about with a crossbow on camera?
See, that's crazy.
It must be a plant.
dan friesen
Sure.
Also, while we're on the subject of things coming out while we're distracted, I would be remiss if I didn't point out that the government released summaries of the phone calls between Michael Flynn and Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak on Friday.
Sure is weird timing.
jordan holmes
Well, that's when we can all best analyze what the content of that is.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know, that's when we have time.
dan friesen
The readouts clearly show Flynn discussing Obama's sanctions with Russia and how Russia should respond, which is something they all said they hadn't done and is technically not legal.
This was before Trump took office, and Flynn said, quote, let's keep this at even keel level.
Then when we come in, we'll have a better conversation where we're going to go regarding our relationship.
The documents even show a follow-up call where Kislyak tells Flynn that the non-escalation on Russia's part was because of their previous conversation.
Some might say this is bad stuff and releasing it while the country is being engulfed in intense protesting seems fishy.
I'm guessing that Alex will never cover these documents and instead focus on Biden saying something about China.
jordan holmes
I think what's really important to know is that if you read those transcripts, you come away with the impression that Trump himself has no idea what's being discussed at all.
That's what I think.
When I read those, it says to me, a man who is hiding this from Trump.
That's what I'm reading in those.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Fuck it.
dan friesen
It looked bad.
jordan holmes
It did look bad.
It looked a little obviously bad, too.
dan friesen
So, but, man, Biden loves China or something.
jordan holmes
Sure, whatever.
dan friesen
But he's not the only one.
There's a bunch of people who like China.
alex jones
Well, the Rothschilds have bet everything on China.
So the Rockefellers.
They all brag about it.
There's a publication.
Rothschild's openly owned.
The Economist.
I mean, you want to get your marching orders.
That's why.
Joe Biden and Bill Gates and all of them say, I read The Economist cover to cover every month, and that's my Bible.
That's the Rothschilds telling them how to wipe their ass.
dan friesen
See, here we have this weird tendency popping up again.
Alex and a whole lot of his associates really seem to think the coded messages are being delivered in newspapers and magazines.
We've heard Alex and Steve Pieczenik discuss how they feel like newspapers were communicating directly with them.
And now here, Alex seems to think that The Rothschilds tell their minions what to do in The Economist.
Honestly, this is stupid, and I would make fun of it more, but honestly, I think it might be indicative of mental problems.
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
Like, how else would you speak to people in power?
Like, send a message on Signal?
Like, no, there's no way.
People would be able to catch that.
dan friesen
Right.
And also, Alex is a complete idiot.
The Rothschilds don't own The Economist.
ABC does.
Everyone knows that The Economist is the name of the third episode in season four of Lost, where we learned that after leaving the island, Saeed has become an assassin for the nefarious Ben Linus.
It's all a very important part of the lead-up to the best episode in the entire show, The Constant.
Joking aside.
jordan holmes
Just letting this slide.
dan friesen
Just fucking stare daggers at me.
jordan holmes
I'm not staring daggers at you.
I'm just along for the run.
dan friesen
All right.
The Economist ownership is a weird thing.
The structure of the company is pretty bizarre, and it's fair to say that the Rothschilds are part owners, but they have approximately 21% stake in the publication.
In 2015, a company called Pearson had owned half of The Economist, but decided to sell.
The arrangement was made where the Angeli family, through their investment company, XOR, raised their stake from 4.7% to 40%, which allowed the previous status quo of powers within the magazine to stay intact.
According to an article in Politico, quote, The Economist's independence is protected by a unique, complicated corporate structure that was put in place in the 1920s.
Ownership is widely dispersed among wealthy English families, descendants of past editors, and numerous current and former employees.
Significant changes must be approved by four independent trustees charged with preserving the magazine's legacy.
It's ridiculous and childish just to say that the Rothschilds own the magazine and use it to disseminate their marching orders, but ridiculous and childish are Alex's brand, so whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's I'm already confused and a little bit angry at everything you just said.
Just like owning shit shouldn't be that complicated, I guess.
I don't know.
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's too much.
It's to make sure that the legacy of the paper or the magazine stays intact and that you can't be subject to a hostile takeover.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I get it.
I understand what's going on.
It's just a frustrating series of things for me to have to understand.
dan friesen
Well, you don't have to understand.
You can move along and just know that Alex is kind of making stuff up and being a dumb dumb.
jordan holmes
Why can't Hearst just continue to own all of our papers?
dan friesen
That didn't work.
jordan holmes
No, I thought that worked out well, right?
dan friesen
Didn't work that well.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
Speaking of things that didn't work out great, what is that?
Alex teases one of his guests for the day in this next clip.
And boy, bad guest.
alex jones
Tim Enlow, who's a good friend of mine, also does security work for us.
He's going to be in the studio talking about his experience as local police, federal police, army, Marine Corps, Blackwater, State Department, all of it.
What he sees going on.
jordan holmes
So he's a bad human being.
alex jones
With the case of this poor man that was killed, but how suspicious some of the different angles of the George Floyd death are, because none of it.
unidentified
Murder.
alex jones
None of it.
None of it added up.
People were like, they must have known each other.
It must have been an inside deal.
And now it turns out they worked as security together at a nightclub.
And you know what goes on in nightclubs and what a lot of the security does.
A lot of security at nightclubs, traffic in narcotics.
And that's who the dealers are, is who the security is.
And I'm not saying that George Floyd or this copper's that.
Just saying the chances of this starts to really get down to some questions we've got.
All right, big transmission lined up on Friday.
dan friesen
If you're listening, Alex literally just said, I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
unidentified
He literally said, Yeah, fuck you.
jordan holmes
He's really on that committing crime tip.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he's playing around with it in a way that he probably can't be held responsible for live.
jordan holmes
Probably, probably.
dan friesen
He's trying to build up a narrative with literally zero proof that George Floyd was dealing narcotics and that his death was the result of some kind of a police gang not liking his position in the drug market.
jordan holmes
Whoa, he's not saying that.
He's just saying.
I'm not saying.
dan friesen
I'm just saying.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying.
dan friesen
I'm just saying.
Come on.
jordan holmes
Hey, come on.
dan friesen
But Alex also doesn't want to say that because I think even he knows that's fucking low.
There's just no words I can come up with that can accurately express my disgust with the way he's behaving on this 29th episode.
But I can at least laugh directly in his face for having a guest on who used to be in Blackwater to talk about this.
If you told Alex from 2004 that this is where he'd be 16 years later, he'd probably tell you to fill your hand.
jordan holmes
Hey, you know what?
I'm just going to bring in my mercenary friend who has definitely probably not committed war crimes.
Not really a Blackwater thing, as I understand it.
dan friesen
This would be a great...
I started to have feelings of a Christmas carol.
jordan holmes
This ghost of Christmas future ghosts.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is like.
jordan holmes
Are we all living in Alex's simulation?
unidentified
Alex that visited my three ghosts and one of them is us?
dan friesen
Alex, this is what you become.
If we could go back in time and show him that, he'd probably sell it.
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
He'd be like, so what you're saying is I should quit at 2015 and keep all of my money.
dan friesen
Probably.
Interestingly, Tim Inlow was definitely in Blackwater and Academy, as it rebranded to later.
He's specifically named in a lawsuit brought by two whistleblowers who claim they were fired after they raised the alarm that someone in the company was, quote, falsifying dozens of marksmanship tests for security contractors.
According to a wired story on this, the allegation was that this guy, quote, informed the State Department inaccurately that Academy's guards were proficient with shotguns and machine guns and, quote, failed to bring an M249 belt-fed machine gun to the test range near Kabul, but reported a successful test anyway.
That person was Tim Inlo.
jordan holmes
Dad, that's the guy we got to get working security for InfoWars.
dan friesen
Now, Tim runs some gun training outfit in Texas, and if you consult his bio on their website, you'll find that he was a Blackwater contractor in Iraq and Afghanistan between 2004 and 2012.
Hard not to consider that the Nasur Square massacre happened in 2007.
Alex should fucking hate this guy.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Not that he was involved in that.
jordan holmes
No.
But he was in the company when it happened.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, he stayed there for five years after.
unidentified
Yeah, Alex should like, he should be, get out of my standards.
jordan holmes
He's tremendously fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that guy continues to work as tremendously fucked up.
dan friesen
You know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex takes a turn for the racist here.
He's complaining about people saying that we don't do a good job in this country with people.
We take care of people better than other countries.
This is bad.
alex jones
Truth is, everybody wants to get into white countries because white countries went through a renaissance and became Christian and said we want to treat people good.
And so compared to other places, we've been really good.
And that's why the globals want to overthrow the European ethos of Christianity.
Because if you can get rid of that, people won't stand up for each other.
And it's the law of the jungle.
That's not about race.
It's about the spirit of the people.
dan friesen
You can see just from that clip how much of a piece of shit, double-talking asshole Alex is.
In that one clip, he says that certain countries are, quote, white countries, and they're better because they have Christianity.
Other places, presumably non-white countries, follow the rules of the jungle.
After saying that, he wraps up his thoughts by saying this is not about race.
And I would ask, if it's not about race, then why did he start off by talking about how great white countries are?
If it's not about race, why does he define the United States and Europe as being, quote, white countries to begin with?
The unexamined baseline of Alex's beliefs are racist to begin with.
But to him, they just feel like, you know, it doesn't feel like they are.
They're just common sense to him.
So if someone were to point out, for example, that America is not a white country, Alex doesn't feel racist defending his position that he thinks it is.
It's just common sense.
You know, it's just the basic reality.
jordan holmes
A lot of people wanted to join this white country so much they called up the United States.
They said, send over all of your boats.
We're going to put ourselves in chains.
I hope you kill a bunch of us along the way.
And while you're on the boats, if you got to capsize us and kill us all, you know what?
That's what we got to do in order to get into that white country.
Great.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, this is a large problem with Alex.
His entire world is just filled with inaccurate information and imaginary bullshit, most of which he picked up from old school racists.
He spends basically no time engaged in self-reflection, and literally everything feels like an attack to him.
So it's just how he's doomed to be until he decides he doesn't want to anymore, which probably will be never.
He's just going to have these positions that he thinks are just common sense and normal.
It's a well-accepted reality, but they're deeply racist.
These things are white countries.
jordan holmes
Say white country to say it to my face.
Come on around, Alex.
Just come on over here.
dan friesen
And he can pretend that this is somehow about Christianity, but that's bullshit.
There are at least 16 countries in Africa that Alex would probably call non-white countries that have higher percentages of the population who are Christian than the United States.
Actually, let's say 15.
I'm pretty sure he would say that South Africa is a white country.
Yeah.
He can hide behind whatever these phrasings he wants, but it's all bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, people wanted to join white countries so bad whenever a white country was set up in their land, they made sure that it lasted forever.
That's why we all sing the national anthem of Rhodesia every morning.
I assume so, right?
That's how it worked out.
dan friesen
So Trump got on the old Twitter box and put out a little missive about how when the looting starts, the shooting starts, which is a fun rhyme that Stephen Miller probably whispered to him.
And Alex is into it.
alex jones
That's what Trump tweeted yesterday.
He said, listen, the riots need to stop.
Pretty soon, we're going to have to shoot rioters.
That's what you do.
We're trying to burn things down.
That's a weapon.
Twitter banned Trump for that.
Block that.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I don't have any real commentary other than to say, like, this is where Alex is at.
He's down with shooting these protesters.
jordan holmes
The president of the United States said that everyone should take it into their hands to murder people if they're doing something that they consider looting.
And Twitter, for some strange reason, decided that people shouldn't see that.
dan friesen
You know, like, I think that the people at the Bundy ranch were stupid, and I don't care for their positions.
But had the government threatened to shoot all of them, I would be opposed to that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, usually.
dan friesen
You'd think that Alex would have the same sort of, but he doesn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, when the occupation starts, the shoot cupation begins.
dan friesen
That rhymes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like it.
dan friesen
So we get back to deflecting by talking about China stuff here in this next clip.
And I think I found something that Alex, I think I found a source on him.
alex jones
China is the most racist country other than probably North Korea on the planet.
China doesn't let one Muslim into their country.
China literally looks down on black people.
Xi J Ping admires Hitler on record.
jordan holmes
So do you.
alex jones
People aren't human.
Think about that.
jordan holmes
You called him a complete badass.
alex jones
I looked at the Chinese folks.
I mean, man, they look just alike for a reason.
dan friesen
Wait, hold on.
alex jones
What the?
dan friesen
Hold on, Alex.
alex jones
Wait.
dan friesen
Wait a second.
Wait a second.
Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm doing great.
Now is the time for me to hear that all Chinese people look alike.
That's what I wanted to hear right at this moment.
dan friesen
Alex is decrying.
jordan holmes
Sunday, May 31st.
dan friesen
China's the most racist country in the world, and he ends it with all Chinese people looking at the people.
jordan holmes
Wait, all Chinese people for a reason.
My God, for a reason.
dan friesen
So it's amazing.
It was only our last episode where we covered Alex discussing China's treatment of Muslims and saying, quote, do your thing.
As I pointed out in that episode, whenever Alex wants to attack China, his tone is completely different, and he uses their treatment of Muslims as a prop.
This is because Alex is a hack and he doesn't care about any of this.
Also, that thing about Zhi isn't true.
That's from a 2019 book called Deceiving the Sky, Inside China's Drive for Global Supremacy by a guy named Bill Goertz.
It would be wise not to necessarily trust anything that Bill Goertz does, especially around China.
In 2019, he was fired by the Washington Free Beacon.
BuzzFeed News reported that it was for, quote, what the publication called an undisclosed financial transaction with someone he covered.
This person, who he covered, is a Chinese billionaire named Miles Kwok.
Goertz and Kwok had a long-standing relationship, and he wrote about him mostly positively, pretty regularly.
When Goertz was writing this book about China, he approached Kwok for money, since Kwok is an opponent of the Chinese government.
Kwok allegedly turned him down, but then Goertz approached William Xi, who gave him $100,000.
The former head of Voice of America's Mandarin Service has said that Kwok referred to Xi as, quote, the money guy.
This $100,000 was never disclosed, and it tainted his work so severely to the point where the Free Beacon added disclaimers to his articles.
This is shady stuff, and it makes it very difficult to trust the sort of person who would engage in that kind of thing and not tell anybody.
Also, because it's fun, Miles Kwok is the guy who sued Roger Stone for $100 million.
jordan holmes
I remember that name.
I was like, I know Miles Kwok somewhere.
Why do I know them?
dan friesen
He sued Roger for defaming him on info.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Roger had to run paid advertisements apologizing in three newspapers.
Roger claimed that Kwok had been convicted of financial crimes and made illegal donations to Hillary Clinton, but when he got sued, he blamed it on bad information he got from Sam Nunberg.
Kwok kindly dropped the suit on the condition that Roger profusely apologized and admit that he lied, and Roger did.
And now Roger's going to prison.
Anyway, unrelatedly still.
Anyway, the point here is that Alex must have read a blurb about Bill Goertz's book, because that's pretty much the only place I can find that he's getting that story from.
So, anyway, what cares?
jordan holmes
What a dick.
The one guy who himself has been like, Hitler was a complete badass, is then going to be like, see, that guy praised Hitler on record.
We have you on record saying, right.
dan friesen
And so, how many of your guests are Hitler apologists?
jordan holmes
Yeah, no clicking.
dan friesen
How many of these guys are going to be able to do that?
jordan holmes
Well, you know, the 6 million number is inflated.
I'm not saying the Holocaust didn't happen.
I'm just saying people are unfairly maligning Hitler's good name.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know.
It's unfortunate.
It's a very weird thing, but Alex is taking on a little bit of a pretty optimistic feeling about things that are going on in the world.
And I think that's not good.
alex jones
I believe we can win.
I believe we can defeat the globalists.
I believe the president comes out against China and admits we're at war with China economically and culturally and through intelligence agencies and through collaborator traders.
If the president calls out the globalist minions as ChiCom operatives, which is now happening, if the president takes the gloves off and says it's a bait and switch, Section 230, that the big internet companies are violating our rights and been involved in election meddling.
If he does all of that very boldly, we have a good chance of winning.
But if he doesn't, if he falters, if he wavers, if we waver, things are going to really go downhill very, very quickly.
So we are on a razor's edge.
And that's why I feel absolutely 100% moral and strong and proud and good to promote high-quality shortable foods.
unidentified
Wow.
Wow.
alex jones
Hopefully, things don't go for insurance.
jordan holmes
Oh, moral.
dan friesen
I was really worried you were going to step on that.
jordan holmes
Nope.
I'm going to let moral, more moral to sell you food.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So if you're keeping track, here's what Alex thinks Trump needs to do for them to win.
Needs to go to war with China.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Needs to come out against the protests around the country and bring up that Soros is running though.
unidentified
Got it.
dan friesen
He needs to dictate free speech rules for social media companies.
jordan holmes
Who wouldn't?
dan friesen
Alex wants a militaristic, repressive dictatorship to be put into place, and that would be, in his eyes, winning.
The implications of what he's suggesting are nightmarish.
Leaving the United States under complete authoritarian rule and engaging in a world war with likely few allies.
jordan holmes
When has that ever gone wrong?
dan friesen
It's a bad idea.
jordan holmes
Ah, come on.
dan friesen
Honestly, it just can't feel anything else than like a manifestation of Alex's desperation.
Like the ridiculous extent to which the things he wants to see or he's advocating would be a disaster kind of just lead you to believe like, okay, well, this is what Alex has to do to feel anything anymore or what he needs to do, how extreme he needs things to get in order to get people to give him money anymore.
He's the boy who's cried wolf, and now he has to cry dragon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I will allow my country that I supposedly love with the constitution that I supposedly have read to completely burn in every aspect and be destroyed in order to get back on Facebook because I am hemorrhaging money.
dan friesen
But because you're hemorrhaging money, you gotta gotta come with the sales.
jordan holmes
Morally hemorrhaging money.
dan friesen
You gotta come with the sales, man.
alex jones
Okay.
So I'm sitting over there last night in the office and we're like, yeah, we've almost sold out of all the best-selling products.
You got to end the special.
We got two new products that came in.
You got to cut ads to the new products.
We're very excited about them.
That'll be by next week.
What do you want to do?
And I just said 60% off.
I said I wouldn't be 50 this year, but it's not a promise.
I think things are so crazy.
I just want to get everything out of the warehouse.
That's just what my gut tells me.
So 60% off across-the-board flash sale, InfoWarshore.com, our biggest sale of the year with 60% off top products.
And this will only run till Saturday because I'm coming in tomorrow to cut the new ads because I've been so busy.
dan friesen
Flash sale.
jordan holmes
What day is today, Dan?
dan friesen
I don't know if these sales are still going.
I was wondering if you're doing it.
No idea.
No.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
No, they're definitely still going.
They're definitely still going.
dan friesen
Now we see how this works.
You know, like the ad pivot in is something we see very regularly.
But something that's a little bit less common is the outward ad pivot, where you're doing ads and then you use them to launch into extremism.
That is something that isn't as common.
It's not super rare, but here's a nice example of it that goes off the rails.
alex jones
Eight-pack power stack, 70% off.
Alexa Pure Breeze, $100 off.
Shorable foods available again.
Just gut level.
I'm just like, expend everything.
Because let me tell you, we don't win this in 157 days.
It's going to be decades of hell.
We're going to be in the Soviet Union like the Russians.
We may be under 80 years of them kicking the snot out of us.
We'll come out of on the other end, but man, they're going to kill tens of kill everybody.
I mean, they're going to drink your freaking blood.
They're going to rape your children.
I mean, let me tell you something.
You go people living in America.
That sounds crazy.
Get ready.
unidentified
They're going to stop your guts out in the gulag for decades.
Because that's what they want is to rape good people.
alex jones
The very same scum that did that in Russia are like literally just sitting there salivating over what they're about to do to you and your family.
So whatever energy you got, whatever it is you need to do, you need to decide, hey.
You want to bend over and take it or you want to stand up and fight?
This is where we fight.
This is where we stand.
This is who we are.
We're not backing down.
And we got Jesus Christ on our side.
House flies defecate every four to five minutes.
dan friesen
Cut off by the break.
unidentified
Ooh, going, we got Jesus Christ on our side.
jordan holmes
Houseflies, shitting everywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, that's bad because, you know, you're doing your sales pitch, and then you're like, I got to give all these great sales because we got to throw everything at the wall.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And that leads to that extreme rant about the getting beat up and raped in a gulag.
And I think there's a real danger to Alex being like, this is where we take our stand.
This is where we fight.
Because people have been constantly asking him, like, over the course of the time that we've been listening to the show, when is the time to start shooting?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And if you hear that, if you're one of Alex's listeners, I can't imagine how you don't hear that as being like, okay, well, the commies are going to take over unless we start shooting or something.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I don't understand how he can't get that.
That's part of the message that's getting across.
jordan holmes
He's talking about the eight-pack power stack, Dan.
dan friesen
I think he's talking about the shooting.
jordan holmes
Now is the time.
Now we make our stand by buying slightly less than eight things out of an eight-pack.
Or wait, it's nine things?
dan friesen
I think it was nine things.
I can't remember now.
jordan holmes
We're begging the eight-pack power stack of nine things.
dan friesen
Mysteriously, that is not information that I've retained.
I don't remember.
I know it wasn't eight.
Yeah, it's troubling.
And I think it's probably the worst angle you could have right about now.
So also the night before, I guess in the morning, you know, it's one of those things.
Time's blurry.
But prior to this episode, CNN reporter Omar Jimenez got arrested on TV.
And Alex has a real interesting take on this.
alex jones
CNN is THICOM funded.
CNN is Muslim Brotherhood funded.
You asked why the police finally understand what's happening in the rest of the scene and reporters.
The intel is they're operatives behind the scenes.
We're obviously directing things.
dan friesen
So they were operatives directing things.
This is like, just look at this level of disconnection from reality Alex lives in and perpetuates to his audience.
Wow.
So late Thursday or early Friday morning, CNN's Omar Jimenez was arrested live on air while attempting to cover the protests.
This is a pretty egregious act of press intimidation.
You can kind of tell based on how the police responded.
In a statement, the Minneapolis police said Jimenez was arrested but released when they realized that he was a reporter.
But that doesn't make sense considering that prior to and during the arrest, he was holding his press badge.
Then they said that he was arrested because he and his crew wouldn't move.
But there's video of this and Jimenez said, quote, we can move back to where you like.
We're live on air here.
Put us back where you want us.
We're getting out of your way wherever you want us.
We'll go out of your way.
Since this point, there have been a bunch more journalists who seem to be getting targeted.
Police were clearly intentionally shooting at what appeared to be pepper balls at reporter Caitlin Rust and her crew as they covered protests in Louisville.
On Saturday night, New York PD roughed up and arrested Huffington Post reporter Chris Mathias while he was clearly wearing a press badge around his neck.
Linda Torado, a photographer in Minneapolis, was shot in the eye with a rubber bullet and has been told that she's going to be left with scarring and permanent blindness in one eye.
It might be too much to say that these police seem to be intentionally trying to hurt journalists, but the way things are going, it doesn't seem like they're going out of their way to respect reporters' roles in society.
jordan holmes
They blame the media because if the media didn't report on it, nobody would know and they would be allowed to be left alone.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, they're doing it on purpose.
dan friesen
Alex is supposed to be a First Amendment guy, and that's supposed to include freedom of the press.
jordan holmes
Ah, but it doesn't include freedom of the operatives, Dan.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
That's the only way that he can make this kind of cognitive dissonance work.
It's to claim that Omar Jimenez of CNN was arrested live on air because he was secretly on the Chinese payroll and orchestrating the protests secretly.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
This is some seriously unhinged shit.
And all Alex is doing is making excuses for reporters being abused by police, which is kind of counter to that document that he loves.
jordan holmes
Which is why we will see a tweet from Trump tomorrow saying that the CNN is run by operatives and we need to arrest them.
Great.
dan friesen
Right.
So there's another narrative that was flying around on this day, and that is the idea that everyone was not from Minnesota.
And Alex gets in on the act here.
And of course, it's a big part, his coverage of this line.
A big part of it is the fake Soros documents.
alex jones
Again, I just showed you the documents earlier: the smoking gun.
Soros funding plans for race-based martial law with out-of-town groups brought in on buses.
Almost all white leftist communists.
I don't want to bash white people, but I mean, it is almost all white people that are trying to manipulate black people into rioting and doing this to get it to go nationwide to then stall the economy for the Chi-Coms.
Here is the local police in Minnesota actually announcing this.
unidentified
We're hearing from our local community leaders that many of the people that were involved in the criminal conduct last night were not known Mineapolitans to them.
And so, yes, there were certainly people who were involved in activities last night that were certainly not recognized as being here from the city.
dan friesen
So the angle that started to take shape was that people who were being arrested in Minneapolis were from out of state.
He had Governor Tim Waltz, the Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, and the St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter all make pretty weird statements on the subject that they would later walk back.
Governor Waltz said that 80% of the rioters were from outside Minnesota.
Mayor Fry said, quote, I want to be very, very clear.
The people that are doing this are not Minneapolis residents.
They're coming in largely from outside the city, outside the region, to prey on everything we've built over the last several decades.
Mayor Carter said, quote, every single person we arrested last night, I'm told, was from out of state.
Care 11 News, they reviewed jail records and found that, in fact, almost everybody who'd been arrested for rioting, unlawful assembly, and burglary were from Minnesota.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, I'm sure it was a complete mistake.
unidentified
80%.
jordan holmes
6%.
dan friesen
So it's basically the opposite of what the officials are saying.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, you mix things up.
dan friesen
To be fair, that data is not conclusive, but it's all the information that's available at this point.
And if the officials are going to be making claims like that, it's their responsibility to then be able to explain why the data seems to contradict those claims.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
All of them have either not commented or said they were operating on information that they had at the time that maybe not good.
jordan holmes
Hey, if the cops gave them that information, I will accept that they could have received false information on account of the cops are probably not on the protesters' side.
dan friesen
It's possible.
So there's another thing here.
This is an interesting phenomenon that happens pretty much every time there's an outburst of protesting and rioting surrounding non-white populations demanding to be heard and that justice be respected.
Again, let's go back to Bill Cooper's coverage of the L.A. riots.
bill cooper
This was no accident.
And I've talked to a lot of blacks in those neighborhoods by telephone.
Good, honest people who did not participate in those things.
But they were witnesses and they watched.
And they tell me that some of the fires were started by their people.
They saw them do it.
But some of the fires were started by people they never saw before and were professionals.
dan friesen
This is a trope that serves a couple of purposes for people like Bill and Alex.
One of the main functions is to assure their audiences that the black community doesn't really feel all that motivated for justice.
It's an attempt to knock out the cornerstone of what the protests are actually about.
In Bill's case, it was the outrage about cops being acquitted for clearly beating a man almost to death on video.
In Alex's case, it's the long-boiling outrage about cops not facing consequences for killing unarmed non-white people, despite very public attempts to get people to take the matter seriously.
Things like people taking a need for everything.
jordan holmes
Things like everything.
dan friesen
By insisting that what's really going on is that the evil white people are secretly running everything and tricking non-whites into rioting, you rob the black community of the ability to focus on the central grievance that is what you should be discussing.
And you do so by playing on your audience's unexamined racist belief that non-whites are stupid and easily tricked into things like rioting.
The other main thing that this does is it allows Bill and Alex to redirect the story for their own purposes.
For their audiences, this is no longer about whatever the protests are supposed to be about.
It's now about the globalists or the New World Order.
The rioters are well-meaning folks who got tricked into this whole thing by the metal and cabal, but Alex and Bill are smart enough to see through the trick, and thereby they co-opt the story that has nothing to do with them into actually being really about their mission.
jordan holmes
Of course it is.
It's always about their missions.
See, what it is, is black people always want to protest peacefully, but white people come in and they start causing a race war because secretly they're using it to oppress black people.
So black people definitely shouldn't even go out at all.
There's no point in protesting.
It's just going to be white people who are making everybody look bad.
So stay home.
Stay home, everyone.
Stay home.
And don't exercise your voice.
dan friesen
It's a pretty gross way to behave.
And I'm pretty sure there were plenty of people at every protest we've seen this last week who have come in from out of town somewhere, but I'm not sure what that proves.
And I'm sure that there are some people who are behaving in ways that maybe the central organizers of a rally do not approve of.
And I think that there's a lot that should be dealt with and wrestled with in terms of that.
But in terms of a lot of the specifics of it, it's really hard to assess for me, especially as things are going on, the level to which that invalidates anything.
I don't think I have a place to say.
And I think that this, I can't hear people like Alex saying things like this and not recognize that that is their motivation.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah, there's so much misinformation going around.
So much.
It's astonishing.
You know, like last night, so many people all of a sudden started tweeting about how the KKK were at Chicago and 38th in Chicago.
And it's like, if you're not paying attention, you think, oh, that makes sense.
And then you look at, then you remember fucking Chicago.
Those are parallel streets.
There's no such thing as Chicago and 38th in here.
People are saying that the KKK is out.
You need to run.
Get out of the Chicago right now.
Get out.
Get out.
dan friesen
I didn't see that one in particular.
But yeah, there's a ton of stuff.
And there's a ton of stuff that might be misinformation that you don't know.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And that's one of the reasons why it's really difficult for me to discuss, particularly the ongoing situation of the protest with any kind of real feeling of certainty or comfort.
And I don't mean comfort in some sort of like a like, I'm uncomfortable.
I mean, I don't know.
And some of the stuff we will discuss, and I'll tell you, like, this is, you know, I don't know.
Yeah.
But like, it's very difficult.
And all I can really sort of stake a claim in is that I believe that the underlying conversation that is around this is important.
It's valuable.
And I don't think that whether a genuine part of anything or a sad offshoot of it, like burning down a target or whatever, is inconsequential compared to the real issues at hand.
And I feel like it's a disservice to get too bogged down in that, losing sight of the tons more footage and stuff you can find of people peacefully gathering and organizing and protesting and the videos you can find of communities cleaning up after, let's say, a business has the windows broken and stuff.
You know, there's all kinds of stuff that are really more important to me than focusing on the sensationalism of fire.
jordan holmes
The only thing that I hear from everybody that makes me so fucking mad is everybody, like Lori Lightfoot gave a press conference today where she lied through her fucking teeth.
dan friesen
I saw a lot of tweets from you about this.
jordan holmes
She can go fuck herself.
But all of this now is everybody, we need to focus on not being violent.
We need to focus on not doing any of those things.
We need to focus on not burning down our own community.
None of them say, hey, here's how we're going to stop the riots.
We're going to make a fucking change.
Not one of them said, we're going to do something to hold police accountable or ourselves accountable.
None of them said that.
They said it's your fault.
You're the ones who are at fault for burning down your communities.
dan friesen
And now the National Guard will come in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We have you have a curfew.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's not us with our, I don't know, millions of years of bullshit.
It's your fault.
dan friesen
And now there's like blockades on Lakeshore Drive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
You know what?
And that's because of you.
That's your fault for being unruly.
There's no reason for you to get violent, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's tough.
jordan holmes
These people are fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's tough.
And for the reasons of like a lot of the complicated elements of this and like how much can you trust everything you see on Twitter when a lot of things are really unverifiable.
Yeah.
For some of those reasons, I think that a lot of my thoughts are best in hindsight than as things are happening.
But I also want to present what Alex says.
And when there are things that he brings up that are like, oh, this is a meme that was going around.
We can discuss that.
But at the same time, sometimes I'm just going to have to punt.
It sucks, but sometimes you have to.
Sometimes you don't.
Sometimes it's clear he's lying.
But anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I understand.
dan friesen
In this next clip, Alex, man, boy.
jordan holmes
Man, boy?
dan friesen
No, man, dot, dot, dot, boy.
Dot, dot, dot.
unidentified
Shit.
dan friesen
Yep.
alex jones
But let me tell you, the average black person whining and bitching about.
jordan holmes
All right, you're done.
alex jones
Click.
You know that's not true.
You know white people on average, a bunch of insecure people to kiss your ass all day long.
And you know, at the end of the day, who you're scared of when you walk down the street at night?
Because that's what's happened in the degradation and the Democratic Party plantation.
That wasn't happening in the black community 70, 80 years ago.
I've got the statistics.
They were some of the most orderly, successful groups, their own hotels, their own restaurants, their own everything.
And I'm not saying go back to segregation, but that oppression made them stronger.
dan friesen
Whoa.
Okay, Alex.
That's another one of those really bad.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
Really bad.
jordan holmes
I'm just hearing this psycho.
I'm just here.
In my ears, it's just stabbing words.
Those are stabbing words.
dan friesen
You go and listen to any kind of like white nationalist or white supremacist media, you'll hear very similar arguments all the time.
Even people like Jesse Lee Peterson constantly talk about how blacks were better off under Jim Crow laws and under segregation.
It's a pretty standard white supremacist mentality.
And see, Alex, like just bluntly, I mean, he's too much of a coward to stand by that, but he is suggesting that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean, what you're still pitching it.
Here's what you're suggesting: they were so much more successful when they were under our boot.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The end.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is what he is at least.
jordan holmes
Because they can't self-government.
dan friesen
Well, that's at least what he's teasing, is what he's saying.
But he's too weak to stand behind it.
Yeah.
Coward.
Yeah.
So Alex has his Blackwater buddy, Tim Inlow, on.
I don't really care what this guy's got, but there's one thing that's possible.
jordan holmes
He's got war crimes.
I think that's what he's got.
dan friesen
It's possible.
But they have one thing that they talk about that I just want to point out.
tim enlow
But the coroner in the autopsy ruled that it was a homicide and that the victim died of a sudden cardiac death due to the toxic effects of cocaine and a stress associated with physical restraint, right?
alex jones
It's like a rabbit dying when you, you know, he just died of a, he died of being secure.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So this guy from Blackwater is here on the show making up details about the preliminary autopsy that Hennepin County Medical Examiner has released.
That report said that the actions of the police, health conditions, and quote, any potential intoxicants contribute to the death.
I'm guessing that what Alex and Tim are doing here is that they're combining that and reports that George Floyd had been arrested in December 2005 for possession of less than a gram of cocaine, which is then being reported as him being on cocaine when he was killed.
At this point, there's no evidence to support this conclusion.
And even if that is later shown to be the case, these dudes are still just making this up.
They aren't saying I bet he was on Coke.
They're saying it as a definitive thing, which is lying.
I have a fairly strong suspicion that if Floyd was on cocaine, we would know about that by now.
It's a pretty simple test.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
It's a pretty simple test that they could run, and it would likely show up in the coroner's report.
But instead, it just mentions, quote, potential intoxicants.
jordan holmes
It seems weird for the coroner to just speculate on whether or not there were intoxicants there without knowing it.
dan friesen
It's weird, but I don't.
jordan holmes
Didn't he know it?
dan friesen
It's weird, but I don't know what it means any more than you do.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
Until there's more information available, it's impossible to make a determination on this.
And I would prefer to err on the side of not just assuming facts about this case.
Alex and his Blackwater buddy aren't playing the same game.
They've decided without evidence that Floyd was on cocaine because that supports the narrative that they're trying to establish.
And that sucks.
jordan holmes
You know, who was it?
The guy who was like, waterboarding isn't torture.
I'll get waterboarded whenever Man Cow.
Was it Man Cow?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
dan friesen
My old friend.
jordan holmes
We only have one rule.
dan friesen
No, you just can't post clips of Man Cow.
We can make fun of him.
Yeah, yeah.
That was, he was the like, ah, fuck them.
Fuck the water.
And then he did it in two seconds or whatever.
And very quickly, he's like, fuck this.
This is torture.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Blackwater guy.
How about, yeah.
dan friesen
It's, yeah.
So a lot of the rest of this show is Alex talking to Barnes and David Knight about how great Trump's moves against Twitter are, which is a pathetic and pointless waste of time.
Good work, Barnes.
I really, really wouldn't care about this even under the most boring of circumstances, but right now I have zero time for it.
After they have this bull session about how great Trump is for doing this stuff, Alex brings on Andrew Torba, the guy who runs Gab.
It's really weird to see that be the person who you'd want to bring on to discuss Trump's planned executive order, because if it goes into effect, Gab is basically dead.
There's no way that site can operate if Torba becomes personally responsible for the things that individuals post on there.
And guess what?
He's not so stupid to not recognize that that's the case.
And it leads to Alex getting completely blindsided.
alex jones
Andrew Torba heads up, Gab.
They've tried to shut him down.
They've demonized this great patriot.
And he's here to watch Trump finally beginning to take action.
I've had a lot of legal scholars I weighed in with on the phone and in person.
They say this is a very strong move by Trump.
What do you think?
unidentified
I actually totally disagree, Alex.
Section 230 not only protects, yes, big tech, but it also protects companies like ours, right?
It allows us to compete against these people.
More regulation is not the answer.
dan friesen
Yeah, no shit.
In this case, at least.
And Torba gets this.
He understands this.
And so they end up having this conversation back and forth where I guess they come to sort of detente by recognizing that, yeah, okay, well, if he writes the executive order, so it only applies to the companies we want it to apply to, that'll be great.
So that's where they kind of like, yeah, as long as I'm protected from the responsibility for what people post, yeah, I'm fine.
jordan holmes
Hey, as long as I am not destroyed by fascism, of course I support the fascists.
dan friesen
I mean, it's the same mentality that they have towards everything.
It's like, yeah, FEMA camps suck.
Oh, wait, I'm not going to be affected.
Love them.
jordan holmes
FEMA camps, love them.
dan friesen
It's all the same.
jordan holmes
It's all fun.
dan friesen
Posse comitatus is the most important thing.
Oh, wait, you're using it on people I don't like?
jordan holmes
Hey, love it.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is one of the cornerstones of this school of the right.
jordan holmes
Victimhood narrative.
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we jump to May 30th.
We jump to Saturday.
And this episode is not very good, but I thought it was important to do because this is the day that Alex's fake tank gets assaulted.
unidentified
Sure.
Sure.
dan friesen
In Austin.
Of course.
jordan holmes
He's got something to say.
dan friesen
Boy, were they excited about that?
But it starts before that.
We don't get to hear about that until a little bit later.
It starts with Alex.
I don't know if he has sources on this story.
alex jones
There have been security personnel shot and killed in different parts of the country.
Police have been shot.
The media, including CNN, is saying they deserve it.
dan friesen
So this is the way that Alex is beginning his coverage on Saturday, which is telling.
By Saturday, there were plenty of available videos he could discuss about police clearly assaulting people unprovoked.
But the way he's covering the story is to frame the entire thing as being about protesters attacking cops.
Alex doesn't speak in specifics, and he never will because he doesn't know any specifics.
This is about creating a tone, a mood, to make his audience scared and hateful towards protests.
There's only one security contractor I could find who was killed, and Alex is implying there's a bunch.
And there's no evidence that there's even a protester who's responsible for that.
I don't know what cops Alex is claiming were shot, but if you'd like to discuss specifics, I'll engage with him at that point.
From what I can tell, the violence being done by the police has far outweighed the violence directed toward them.
But it's a complicated situation to extract exact details from, particularly as it's still ongoing, which is why it's such a massive disservice for Alex to speak in these vague generalities that gets us nowhere.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the concrete hasn't dried yet.
That's kind of what's going on.
dan friesen
He's putting that handprint in there.
My point is, you can see Alex opening his broadcast by centering the idea of violence against police as the most important element of the story.
By doing this, if the subject of police brutalizing protesters comes up, he can justify it by saying it was only because the cops are getting shot.
This is an intentional strategy to create the narrative out of the news.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So a lot of people were sending me messages that Alex was in the tank when it went to the protest in Austin.
And this is not the case.
He was in the studio.
The cuck destroyer was there.
jordan holmes
Coward.
dan friesen
But it's interesting because when Alex starts off the show, he discusses his people in the field.
And if you know who they are, you kind of get a sense of what the game they were trying to play is.
alex jones
So this is an incredible time to be alive.
We've got Owen Schroyer downtown in the armored vehicle.
We're going to be covering that.
We've got Savannah Hernandez down there covering it.
Protesters stop traffic on I-35 a minute angry demonstration outside of APD headquarters.
dan friesen
You can kind of see how Alex's strategy is going to play out in terms of trying to create a publicity stunt that he can use to his advantage.
He does this by sending two people into the field, working together, but using very different tactics.
Owen Schroyer shows up in the fake tank, which is meant to draw attention.
Alex has every reason to know that there's a good chance that that thing's getting egged at least and probably worse.
In the end, people spray painted on it, tried to immobilize it, and then ultimately chased it off.
This would be good, scary footage, but it would ultimately also come off as a little bit weak.
Owen's supposed to be the guy who can stand up to any cuck and put them in their place.
So if he tries to roll a tank into a protest and gets chased off with graffiti on his car, that's not the optics that you want.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you get, you know, tanks are famous for running away with their tails between their legs.
That's why we fit them with tails.
dan friesen
Everybody does that, right?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that's where Savannah Hernandez comes in.
She's someone who almost no one knows or would recognize as working for InfoWars, and she doesn't announce herself as an Infowars correspondent when she's in the field.
She has a thing on her mic that says Action 7 News, which is a fake entity that they've come up with to mislead people about who she works for.
By pretending to be from an unrelated outfit, Savannah can attempt to get interviews with people, maybe even about the attack on Alex's fake tank.
And the entire story can be told completely differently than it could be with just Owen out there getting clowned.
Owen shows up to draw the heat.
He's the InfoWars guy who's there.
And Savannah tricks people into thinking that she's not working for InfoWars in hopes of getting footage they can use to build a narrative.
Maybe it's that all the protesters want to kill Owen.
They hate real journalists.
They hate the First Amendment or whatever.
Whatever the case is, there's an advantage to having Owen there to draw heat, and then Savannah can appear to not be an InfoWars reporter.
jordan holmes
It's good cop lying cop.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a pretty clear setup, and it's what.
jordan holmes
Or lying cop lying cop.
dan friesen
Yeah, sure.
It's one of the reasons why this is a giant breach of journalistic ethics to misrepresent who you work for, unless you're doing undercover work.
This instance is probably one where you could make an argument that Savannah's safety could be threatened by being an InfoWars reporter there, and thus the lie could be justified.
But that kind of goes out the window when you consider they're also sending Owen in in a tank.
It kind of doesn't make sense, but whatever.
jordan holmes
It did disappoint me that they didn't flip it over and light it up because I would have liked to hear Alex scream, that was a rental.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
I think he claims that they bought it now.
Like it was originally a rental.
jordan holmes
It was a lease to own.
dan friesen
I don't know what the reality of that is, and I particularly don't care.
jordan holmes
Don't care.
dan friesen
But Alex is thrilled that he bought it now because, like, hey, hey, this is what we need to go into these protests.
And it's like, yeah, eventually it will get flipped.
Like, he does keep doing this.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
It will get destroyed.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That thing's going down.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
People rightly hate him.
So anyway, Alex on this episode, of course, is still pushing the fake Soros documents.
They're front and center.
They're an essential piece of his coverage now.
alex jones
This is the media winding up, people.
Remember the Homeland Security documents.
Remember those numbers.
Where George Soros' son was trying to create race riots in 2015 in Baltimore, Maryland, with white activists in black block uniforms.
dan friesen
So now they're Homeland Security documents, apparently.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're whoever.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, whatever.
dan friesen
Just making all this shit up.
jordan holmes
CIA, FBI, KGB, Homeland Security, MI6, whatever China's got, according to him.
dan friesen
Yep.
So CNN is paid by China, and therefore reporter orchestrating protests gets arrested.
unidentified
Operative.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, undoubtedly.
China, though, they're all, they got their fingers in so many pies.
alex jones
I mean, they've bought off Italy.
unidentified
They've bought off, bought off Italy.
jordan holmes
We'll give you 50 bucks.
alex jones
France, they've bought off Spain.
I mean, it's on the news where the leaders of those countries say, thank you, China, you run us.
jordan holmes
Not even going to do a French accent.
alex jones
The Communist Chinese Party pays for the guns and the ammo of the French police, the Spanish police, and the Italian police.
jordan holmes
So cops are bad.
alex jones
Uniforms of EU police are paid for by Xi Ji Ping.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
alex jones
That's in the news.
dan friesen
So the first point I want to make is that at this point, I'm not sure Alex even remembers what Xi's real name is.
It's hard to say whether he pronounces it that way because it's like a derisive thing or because he, like one day, he realized it was easier to pronounce that way and he just forgot he's doing it wrong.
jordan holmes
Do you think he's like, Ja-Jacques Gabor, Xi Jiping, same thing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I have no idea what Alex is talking about.
Also, from all accounts, China actually buys a lot of weaponry from European countries.
I can't find any sources to back up what he's saying.
And because he's the one making the claim, it's his responsibility to cite a source, or we're free to assume he's just making it up.
If it is in the news and it's all over the place, backing this up should be no problem for him.
So I'll wait for that to happen.
And it's not going to happen.
jordan holmes
Does he think it's a good idea?
dan friesen
Or like a clip of these French leaders saying, thank you, China, you run us, or whatever.
jordan holmes
It's like a business sponsoring a local little league team.
China buys them their uniforms.
They have to put China on the back of them.
They've got to spread the word.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Alex, I think he thinks that he's got like a real haymaker knockout punch.
And it turns out all he's really doing is revealing maybe that he has some real white supremacy problems.
alex jones
Look at all the white liberals out.
Hands up, don't shoot.
Let's look at crime statistics from the FBI itself.
Okay.
Look at these right here.
And on all these white liberals, their hands up, oh, don't shoot me, don't shoot me.
547, 948 black-on-white crimes.
Black on Hispanic, 112,000.
White on black, 59,000.
White on Hispanic, 207,000.
Hispanic on white, 365,000.
Hispanic on black, 44,000.
Like I told you, it's a 10 to 1 ratio, black-on-white crime.
And you could argue, well, it's over-reported, whatever.
dan friesen
Look, could you?
alex jones
Anybody being realistic and being honest knows that it's seen as a leftist thing.
Go ahead and attack white people that deserve it.
dan friesen
So Alex is trotting out some crime statistics in an attempt to make the argument that black people commit more crimes against white people than the reverse.
I don't want to parse words here.
This is an argument that is right at home on Stormfront or on any white supremacist message board you can imagine.
The goal here isn't to talk about actual dynamics in crime.
It's to portray black people as violent threats and white people as the preferred target of those threats.
Open white supremacists like David Duke and Jared Taylor have used this exact argument for years to claim that it's an inherent criminality that exists in black people.
And even if Alex isn't directly saying that, his argument is built on that foundation.
And there's no way he could possibly not be aware of that.
What this analysis of crime statistics, you know, what it does is it takes all the context away from numbers.
And thus, they're pretty much meaningless.
More thorough analyses have been done, like the 2014 Bureau of Justice statistics study that found that a lot of the differences that you can find racially in crime statistics go away when you control for poverty.
They also found that when things are done to alleviate poverty, violent crime rates went down regardless of race.
Racist misinterpretations of crime statistics like this are mainstays in white supremacist discourse and were a large part of what motivated Dylan Roof to commit his 2015 mass shooting at the Emmanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston.
Whether Alex wants to accept it or not, he's continuing in that legacy.
Also, and this is crucially important, these statistics are completely irrelevant to the conversation that these protesters are meant to be forcing.
The conversation is around a lack of accountability for police officers who kill and victimize non-white people.
And no amount of random, out-of-context crime statistics Alex can come up with will have any bearing on that.
He's trying to move goalposts because he feels like this crime statistic conversation is one where his narratives of white victimhood stand a better chance of success.
All he's doing is making the argument that maybe police should be killing black people.
Kind of.
I mean, that's kind of the rationalization he's making.
But he's doing it without having to accept the consequences of saying that out loud.
unidentified
I just say sucks.
jordan holmes
He can go fuck himself.
dan friesen
Hey, all right.
jordan holmes
Go fuck himself.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
The idea of saying, oh, white liberals are at these protests going, hands up, don't shoot.
These people are out at protests where cops are indiscriminately pepper spraying people.
These people are out in the streets while fires are going on everywhere around them saying hands up, don't shoot, while you put your dumb fucks in a tank and you don't even go to a fucking protest.
How dare you?
How fucking dare you?
dan friesen
I think he might have on Sunday, but I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
He's still a coward in a tank.
dan friesen
That is fair.
So in this next clip, Alex does some promoting, and there's maybe, I don't know if I want to say I have a call to action, but I have a point I want to make.
alex jones
Tell everyone you know, tune in infowars.com forward slash show, banned.video, newswars.com forward slash show.
That URL doesn't get banned as much.
Newswars.com forward slash show.
And that's the Paul Revere.
You don't have to ride through the night with British shooting at you.
dan friesen
So the first thing I think is really funny is that how Alex is suggesting that his audience post links to banned.video because banned.video is not as banned as other URLs.
jordan holmes
See?
dan friesen
Just kind of stupid.
I wanted to pull this clip because it's something that Alex says all the time, and I usually just ignore it.
But today, I feel like it merits discussion.
Alex is directly flouting the bans on social media sites and using it as a marketing ploy.
Until social media sites wise up and realize that they're dealing with people who will constantly try to get around the rules because their business model depends on it, they're going to lose.
They set up blockers so InfoWars can't go up, but Alex posts all the same articles on News Wars with all the same ads and all the same content.
So he can just have people post that, and essentially the block is completely ineffective.
If the goal is to restrict InfoWars' ability to perpetuate their lies and misinformation, then these companies need to block news wars, banned.video, Europe wars, and a whole bunch of other URLs that Alex owns.
Until they do, their actions are symbolic and ultimately at least partially advantageous to Alex.
Yep.
So it doesn't feel good.
jordan holmes
Get David Knight off of there, too.
I'm sick of him being untouched by all their bans.
dan friesen
No, I think he did get banned recently.
Did he?
I think he finally did.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Every time they announce more bans.
unidentified
No, wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
David Knight was always conspicuously absent.
dan friesen
It was Owen and Rob, too.
Yeah, that's what I was saying.
jordan holmes
David Knight's still spared.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And Paul.
Paul Joseph.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got to get the fuck out of there.
dan friesen
So Alex, in this next clip, seems to be encouraging his audience to counter-protests at the White House, which seems like a good idea.
alex jones
Well, Trump just decapitated the UN main tyranny in the WHO.
And he's now arresting the Chinese agents.
He's delivered.
Are we going to deliver?
Before it's too late?
That's a question you've got to ask yourself right now.
This isn't the freaking game, folks.
It's not up here for hyperbole.
This isn't like all the BS stuff about white hats and Q and imaginary puff the magic dragon stuff.
And I'm not attacking folks that are into that.
I'm just saying, this is real.
And you can't count some magic group out there.
You know, Q tells you don't go out and protest.
And maybe Q's great.
We got Billy Weaver, come on about it.
But Trump just said he wants to get the White House for America, for Trump.
I'm thinking about going on a plane tomorrow morning.
dan friesen
He doesn't.
alex jones
So some groups say don't do anything.
Don't be involved.
It's all handled by magic folks.
You heard the president tweet today.
Come to D.C., surround the White House, protect the White House.
Are you going to respond to that?
Trump fires the bat signal.
Are you going to believe the Orange Man?
No.
Or 8-Chan.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
I'm going with Orange Man.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
alex jones
Not 8-Chan.
And I'm not at war with all that.
There's some good people and good research.
dan friesen
Alex had to add that last part at the end because otherwise it's like, that's where a lot of your information has come from.
The channels.
So go fuck yourself, man.
Yeah, I don't care about this.
I mean, like, this is just dangerous.
I mean, I mean, everybody has the right to protest and what have you, but like, I think the odds are not good of people doing so responsibly in Alex's audience who are calling themselves to protect the White House.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
I feel like that's we need citizen soldiers to protect the White House.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
One of the most highly guarded places in the fucking world.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems like trouble.
jordan holmes
I think we'll be okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex mentioned that Millie Weaver was coming up, and he tries to start their interview here.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
We have audio.
I see her crystal clear right there.
So we are going to go to her.
We even had a guest on who was a male nurse of 20-something years.
And then his Skype banned him, saying that it was unauthorized activity.
So now the device-level censorship's gotten crazy.
A lot of times it's a quirk of ours or whatever.
Millie, you're back.
How big is what's happening right now?
What is your intel?
Trump arresting the Chinese spies, going after tech censorship.
He's really proven he's the real deal.
I mean, that's my view.
What's your view?
So, again, it's okay.
It's how the internet works.
I'm on Saturday.
Got a skeleton crew.
We're figuring it out.
dan friesen
Figuring it out.
jordan holmes
You should have figured it out by now.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
jordan holmes
We're on month a million of this exact same scenario playing out.
dan friesen
So, yeah, man, it's cool.
Alex is chill about it.
And he decides, like, I'm going to play a couple special reports, and then we'll get Millie on.
unidentified
It'll be fine.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
All right.
For whatever happened, Millie Weaver's amazing.
We can't get her Skype paired up with ours, and it just didn't work.
Maybe she'll be back with me tomorrow on the Sunday show, 4 to 6 p.m., but we'll see what happens.
dan friesen
Like, no one at Alex's, no one could figure this out.
It's as simple as.
jordan holmes
It's impossible.
dan friesen
You could have called her.
jordan holmes
No, it's possible.
dan friesen
You could have used a phone.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
You can't use phones.
This is impossible.
dan friesen
How incompetent is that staff?
jordan holmes
Phones only work if you have the mark of the beast attached to them.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
I mean, this is like a regular problem that they have.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, we can only use platforms that haven't banned us.
Apparently, Apple's banned us from using phones.
dan friesen
Skype works fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it works fine.
dan friesen
Can't use Zoom because it's China.
Something.
So anyway, we don't need Millie because Owen gets back to the studio at this point.
And oh man, Alex is so excited.
He's so excited that people attacked his car.
jordan holmes
Of course he is.
owen shroyer
You know, it'll be interesting because kind of the main hub of activity is what we call Dirty Six.
There's 6th Street here in Austin.
alex jones
Folks, keep rolling that footage of the truck getting attacked.
owen shroyer
And that's right where they're going to go.
I mean, you're going to have communist Democrat rioters out in Austin, Texas.
Look at how much they earn.
Unless hundreds of arrests happen immediately.
All of these people should be arrested.
alex jones
I mean, start over in a minute, but look at the American flag.
It's like piranhas.
owen shroyer
Oh, yeah.
They try to spray things.
Start over it.
alex jones
Start over.
dan friesen
Alex loves that footage.
He is so excited about it.
It's such a good representation visually of his own victimhood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's rubbing one out.
alex jones
It's awesome.
dan friesen
You could just hear him constantly.
Oh, that's good.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no, no.
We'll get back to you there.
Show me that one more time.
Look at my tank.
Look at my tank.
Look at how powerful it is.
dan friesen
And it gets so good to him, him talking about this attack on his truck that he decides to really swing for the fences.
owen shroyer
And see, these people don't understand that the only reason they feel so robbed in life is not because.
alex jones
Oh, there are people casing my house that I'll say that on there.
I saw them.
owen shroyer
They're probably getting ready to, you know, they went to Tucker Carlson's house.
They're probably getting ready to.
alex jones
They ain't going to be Tucker Carlson's house in my house.
unidentified
But I'm saying, you know, they're saying that they're just saying his house.
jordan holmes
Yeah, case in his house.
unidentified
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Fuck you.
Yeah.
So Alex, he has Owen in studio, and he also has Tim Inlow back, the Blackwater guy, who is clearly with Owen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, that's why he's back.
jordan holmes
Well, he's got to be.
dan friesen
I guess.
I'm guessing.
jordan holmes
Security's got to be in the tank.
dan friesen
It's really interesting because Owen mirrors the exact same talking point that Tim Inlo brought up on the previous day's show.
owen shroyer
You know, there's still some stuff that needs to be talked about with George Floyd.
Should he have died?
Maybe not.
But you know what?
He was maybe not.
The autopsy said that he actually died basically from an overdose.
dan friesen
So they're pushing this forward, and it's not factually backed up.
This is them trying to craft a new story.
It's the same thing that people did, the white nationalist folks and the alt-right did in the aftermath of the Unite the Right rally with the narrative and talking point that Heather Heyer had a heart attack.
You know, it's the same sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Here's my new solution.
All right.
We're not going to limit free speech whatsoever.
However, if you say some bullshit like that, you have to be wearing full KKK ropes.
That way, nobody's restricting your speech, but everybody knows what you're saying.
I like that idea.
dan friesen
It seems tough to implement, but it does.
jordan holmes
Maybe we'll just have one above every white person's head that can descend no matter where they are.
dan friesen
Pull a ripcord.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like a parachute.
dan friesen
You have an interesting suggestion.
Let's send it to the committee.
jordan holmes
All right.
I'll see what I can do.
dan friesen
So Owen's dumb.
And, you know, here's him and that Blackwater guy discussing how these protests, they're competitive.
unidentified
Sure.
owen shroyer
There is kind of like this competitive nature, I think, to some of these groups.
tim enlow
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
owen shroyer
And it's like, oh, you saw what they did in Oakland.
We have to do it even bigger here.
tim enlow
That's exactly right.
Or at least we have to get that same kind of footage so that our organization, the money and the donations and everything pulls in to support our cause.
And really, if you look at it.
Right.
And if you look at that, it's a playbook straight out of Group.
jordan holmes
Are you hungry?
tim enlow
Right?
The more attacks guerrillas launch, the more money they get from their state sponsors, right?
So that's exactly what's going on here, except the sponsors are these big private individuals, right, that donate to their causes.
owen shroyer
Right.
dan friesen
So it's Soros.
So what's going on is these protesters are all competing to see who can come up with the best footage so they can get more money in Soros' video contests.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
These protests are about justifying their budget.
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Fuck off.
That's a real mess.
jordan holmes
There's no point in talking to you about you or around you.
Shut that guy up.
dan friesen
So we close out this 30th special episode with, you know, Alex is just like, he's getting to a point now where it's like we keep saying and have been saying for a while that it's like he just wants Trump to become a dictator and will accept whatever.
And now he's sort of making peace with that.
And he's sort of being a bit more open and upfront about it.
alex jones
We're at war.
He just, I mean, everybody should just get behind the president.
And folks, I don't just say that like some cold deal.
We have to get behind the president.
He's proven he's real.
You got to get behind him.
But what does getting behind the president mean?
owen shroyer
Well, I don't know.
You know, the election is a short 156 days away, but that's also a long 156 days away.
alex jones
Well, just the point is we're at war with globalists and SHICOMs.
Get behind the president.
I think it's that simple.
owen shroyer
I think that I think Trump has the people behind him.
alex jones
I think what he's got to mobilize them.
owen shroyer
And he, well, he needs to do something.
He needs to take a leading edge and then let the people catch up.
He needs to take a leading edge.
alex jones
He tweeted and said citizenship around the White House.
The media said, oh, he wants a brawl.
So they said, don't do that.
No, I think invite that at this point.
I mean, if they want to keep going on this road.
dan friesen
So Alex is like, yeah, let's fucking have a fight.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I guess.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Get behind the president unquestioningly, David.
I mean, that's a good Democratic.
dan friesen
That's the center thrust of what he's putting out there.
But one thing that I think one thing that I think maybe you might not notice listening to that clip that stuck out to me is that even Owen Schroer can recognize a lack of leadership.
Even Owen recognized.
Now, granted, he wants leadership in the wrong direction.
No, of course.
In a very bad direction.
But they are even able to take a finger, put it on the pulse, and recognize we have no leadership.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
There is an absence of effective leadership.
And that's bad.
We now jump to the 31st.
Sunday.
Sunday, Sunday.
At this point, a whole bunch had happened, and there were a number of conspiracies that are floating around.
Everywhere.
And this is where it really started to feel a lot like going back and looking at the Boston bombing period, where in the immediate aftermath of things happening, Alex would just throw whatever at the wall.
And it really feels like on Sunday, that's what he's trying to do.
He's trying to launch in as many directions as possible.
And granted, I think that started earlier, too, with his maybe there was a cop gang kind of thing.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
There's a bit of it, but I think it accelerates quite a bit.
And it begins immediately on the 31st.
alex jones
There's an article at Infowars.com that tells it all.
Pallets of bricks delivered in front of the Dallas City Hall and police station.
Firebombs delivered in Minnesota.
The left, Soros, the globalists, the ShiComs trying to fund martial law in America.
dan friesen
So the only source Alex has on that brick story is a video that was going around on Dallas, around on Twitter, of a guy in Dallas saying that there was a pallet of bricks in a location that was not near any construction site, and thus someone must have put them there on purpose.
From that jump-off point, Alex is bringing in the pre-existing narrative of the fake Soros contracts to report that the person who put those bricks there must have been in the employee of Soros, which is Alex's way of trying to create a false flag narrative out of the protests.
I have no idea what's going on in that video on Twitter.
I've seen some people online say that the bricks were there because there was a construction project at the intersection involving a replaced water line, but I couldn't tell you if that's accurate or not.
I can't find independent confirmation.
It really doesn't make sense, though, that this would be a spot where Soros or one of his minions would just drop off a pallet of bricks for no reason.
That video was shot outside of a federal building, so you would assume there would be a decent chance that there might be some surveillance around it.
And I know that we recently just talked about how there weren't cameras pointed outside the Mura building in Oklahoma City and that wasn't suspicious.
But this is a different situation.
The building in this video that it was shot outside of was the Earl Cobble Federal Building and Courthouse, which was the site of a shooting back on June 17th, 2019.
If there were some failures in cameras at that point, afterwards the building raised their security considerably.
If someone dropped off a pallet of bricks outside that federal building, there should be a way to prove it.
So let's see if that ever happens.
jordan holmes
It was an Operation Dumbo drop kind of situation.
There was a helicopter.
dan friesen
No way.
Those bricks would have scattered.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
It was a helicopter.
dan friesen
For now, I'm of the mind that this seems like a misunderstanding on the part of the person who made that video, and it's been widespread and weaponized by the conspiracy theory community to further the narrative that Soros is paying protesters to cause trouble.
I don't see any confirmation that these bricks were mysteriously dropped there.
So I'm going to need more on that.
That's not good.
That's not good enough for me.
Yep.
So Alex has realized that the National Guard is getting involved, which he should be against.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
His career would lead you to believe he's against that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and the president threatening to send the military into places you can't do that.
dan friesen
He should be against that.
jordan holmes
He's not that too.
He's not.
dan friesen
There was a video that was going around of the National Guard shooting people on their porches, not with guns, with paintballs, I believe.
unidentified
And he's for it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
There's footage in Minneapolis, St. Paul of the National Guard called out to clear the streets.
They've been giving orders to make people go in their houses, firing rubber bullets at people.
And this is being boosted to the top of Twitter.
And I don't like it.
It looks like a police state, but they've been ordered there, and lawlessness created this.
And so all the trendies that want civil war and want all this, they're getting what they asked for.
dan friesen
This doesn't seem like what Mr. Anti-Police State should.
That shouldn't be his take.
It shouldn't be like, well, yeah, police state is what you got to do, and there's no law going on.
That shouldn't be who.
He's made multiple documentaries called police state.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, we're at the point now where he might as well be like, and I do believe that people should have to quarter soldiers in their homes.
Just do a complete about face on literally everything.
dan friesen
Listen, if an oath keeper knocks on your door, you got to feed him.
jordan holmes
You got to let him in.
You got to give him a bed.
dan friesen
Doesn't say anything about that in the Constitution.
jordan holmes
You see, Oathkeeper is not in the Constitution.
dan friesen
So Alex also, he's building here on this episode about his conspiracies about George Floyd trying to turn the death into a grand conspiracy.
alex jones
This man that died in porn, he's at a dance club.
He's involved.
He knows both the officers that are there when he dies that worked with him.
I mean, this thing is stinky.
Just like the Smollock case, just like so many others.
I'm not saying he didn't die.
I'm saying it looks like some type of organized crime battle going on from what we see at the preliminary level.
dan friesen
So I can find no information about the other cop knowing George Floyd, and there's nothing on it about InfoWars.
Like, I can't find any story about it on there.
And also, I don't care if someone has done porn.
Sex work doesn't make someone suspicious or more likely to be involved in criminal activity.
Alex is just doing whatever he can, throwing any kind of spaghetti at the wall to attack the image of the guy who the police murdered in order to make that murder more acceptable to his audience.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying that he's Dave.
Look, I don't think he deserved to die, and I definitely think that there was an incompetent police officer.
But I'm just saying he regularly drove 25 miles an hour in a 30-mile-an-hour speed zone.
So look, I'm not saying he's a bad.
Look, it's not that they deserve to die.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying that, you know what?
Don't worry about it at all.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Good.
Good.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Thanks, buddy.
dan friesen
So, Alex is also continuing to push the out-of-towner narrative that by this point, those officials, a number of them had already been like, wow, I had bad information.
Alex is still pushing it.
And then, man, I can't believe how flimsy some of this shit is.
alex jones
You've got all of them coming home, including the governor, saying these are out-of-town people.
Well, it turns out the governor's daughter was caught directing Antifa and busloads of out-of-town people actually attacking.
dan friesen
So, leaving aside the fact that Alex didn't get the memo about these updates to that story, that thing about Governor Waltz's daughter, Hope, had to do with her tweeting about rumors about the National Guard getting deployed and saying that it takes time to mobilize them.
This is a full-on QAnon theory that Alex is repeating, where Dum Dums Online decided that the governor's daughter is involved in issuing directives to protesters stealthily through Twitter because she tweeted about the National Guard taking time to make no mistake about it.
What Alex is doing right now would be the equivalent of him coming on air and talking about how Trump's misspellings on Twitter were actually a secret code.
That's the level of bullshit he's working with.
Oh, the governor's daughter is secretly running Antifa.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
The governor's daughter is secretly running Antifa in a sentence that he's bugg.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Bugh.
Yep.
alex jones
Buch.
jordan holmes
Buch.
Somebody's running Antifa.
dan friesen
And it's the governor of Minnesota or Minnesota's daughter.
jordan holmes
You know Antifa, the ones famous for taking directives from authority.
dan friesen
The children of a state.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So that's not even at the office of any kind.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't even know what her name is.
So in this next clip, Alex brings up some intrigue, some in-house intrigue around InfoWars.
alex jones
Everywhere we drove around the Armored Vehicle today, the left went, F you!
You're off Twitter and Facebook!
You don't matter!
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
Hey, did not say that.
alex jones
We matter and they matter.
And you know what?
We get millions of views a day outside of your ass.
And that's why they successfully hacked newswars.com today.
Antifa did posted pictures of pigs and the police and said we're going to kill the police and then the Unabomber crap.
Yeah, they took over one of our sites today because these people are anti-free speech fundamentally.
Yeah, there it is.
So it just goes on and on and on and on.
This is the big commie takeover.
dan friesen
I don't know about this, man.
The only website covering this story is Infowars itself, so I don't know about this.
Something doesn't seem quite right about it, mostly because no hackers would go to News Wars, the website that almost no one outside of InfoWars listeners even know exists.
No one would do that.
It makes no sense.
It would have no impact to hack News Wars.
A website that even social media sites that have banned Alex don't know exists.
jordan holmes
I know how we'll get a huge amount of attention.
We're going to hack a website and no one will know about it.
It's a real stealth kind of movie.
dan friesen
You hack a website of the woods and no one hears it.
It doesn't make a sound.
jordan holmes
It's like buzz marketing.
You have little things in there.
dan friesen
If I were Alex, I would 100% call this a false flag.
But I'm not Alex.
So maybe some really weird hacker decided to take over a site that literally no one cares about, and I'm sure no one would have noticed unless Alex brought up.
It's possible.
And then again, we've also heard Alex completely fabricating DDoS attacks in the past.
jordan holmes
Call it a scalar attack and let's move on.
dan friesen
It's kind of in line with some of his previous behaviors, but I have no idea.
Maybe some bored hackers.
jordan holmes
Also, I don't believe for a second that protesters are saying you got kicked off Facebook and Twitter.
dan friesen
100% not.
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
dan friesen
I also don't believe that Alex's security is any different for News Wars and Infowars.
And if anyone was trying to take over anything, it would be InfoWars.
Just doesn't pass the smell test.
jordan holmes
I don't think it would be that hard.
dan friesen
So, Alex talks more about this brick story in Dallas here.
alex jones
Trump wants a true economy and to empower you.
And by the way, I said I get to all these clips this segment.
I'll get to the next segment.
And boy, do we have a surprise?
We have the deep state delivering pallets 15 bricks tall in front of the police department in Dallas.
And the black folks, the people, see right down through it.
dan friesen
So, I mean, he's just fabricating details about this.
Multiple pallets, 15 bricks high in front of the police station.
jordan holmes
We have them delivering it.
We have footage of them existing in that spot.
dan friesen
Right.
We have a video that someone posted on Twitter of them standing next to some bricks saying this is a setup.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a little different than we have video of George Soros, 80-year-old George Soros.
unidentified
With a pallet of bricks just on a dolly.
dan friesen
With a balaclava on.
Someone pulls it off.
jordan holmes
It's like, oh, it's Soros.
I rented a fork truck today.
alex jones
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, we got receipts of Soros with a fork truck.
Yeah.
God damn.
dan friesen
So, in addition to this, Alex is pushing narratives that are about the police setting fires in New York and that they are, you know, this false flag kind of thing.
But, you know, there's other people doing this.
And you know what?
My position on all of that stuff is: I don't know.
I don't know if there are instigators who are infiltrating in some capacity.
I don't know if there are white supremacist folks, accelerationist types.
I don't know if some of them are very misguided, total anti-statist types.
I don't know.
And I can't pretend to know, and I don't think we will know for a while.
There's a chance that some of this information will come to light.
Some people may be able to identify things.
But at this point, I don't know.
But I do think that the way Alex is covering this stuff is still irresponsible, given that he doesn't know either.
alex jones
We got footage in New York, and not all police are corrupt, but some false flag.
And New York's classic for this.
You got very creepy footage looking like the police are setting fire to vans.
I'm not saying that's what they're doing.
It's just, we're going to cover it all, folks.
We're going to ask the questions here tonight.
Because the truth is my North Star.
Asking those questions is the North Star.
dan friesen
So it seems like asking those questions is equivalent to truth for him.
And that's a problem because there's no point in him asking those questions.
Him asking those questions only leads to people deciding, yes, absolutely, those were police setting those fires in order to start shit or whatever.
You know, him asking these questions only leads people to believe that he has evidence that Soros dropped off those bricks.
You know, that's the, like, he, he is so irresponsible with the way he behaves that asking those questions is lying for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's, it's, it's, he just, he has to recognize at a certain point that what would be this person's just asking questions for someone else is for him a dangerous activity.
jordan holmes
Yeah, his North Star is black people did it.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
That's his North Star.
dan friesen
And don't talk about weird white people tricked them into doing that too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Don't forget that.
That's very important.
jordan holmes
Everybody else's fault.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So now we get a little bit of footage that Savannah Hernandez got when she was out in the field.
And I think it's about what you'd expect.
And actually, it's the worst version for Infowars that it could be.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because I do think sincerely that their intention was to try and tag team this thing somehow.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And what ended up happening is Savannah just talked to a communist who was like, I support food, not bombs.
And they think that this is like a big.
jordan holmes
They're so stupid.
alex jones
From a communist in Austin, Texas was Savannah Hernandez, reporter, interviewing him about the dream.
World run by communist or anarchist.
Here it is.
jordan holmes
Not the songwriter.
The dream.
unidentified
Where do you think we go after this?
What do you think happens next?
Well, there's another demonstration tomorrow.
Like I said, these demonstrations are a way of showing solidarity, but the only way to actually change the system is to increase self-governance.
So that means it involves organizations like Food Not Bombs with local anarchist or communist organizations because these are the people that are actually trying to change the system and have concrete plans for how to do so.
It's one thing to go vote every election cycle.
It's one thing to like canvas the city or something like that.
But if you actually want to affect change, you need to change the conditions.
So join an organization, a communist organization, or an anarchist organization.
And yeah, that's what I would recommend.
alex jones
The communists have the plans.
dan friesen
Ah, man, Alex, you can't even figure out how to spin out of that.
jordan holmes
You got it, Devin.
You got it.
That guy is.
Oh, they're actually trying to change things.
They have plans.
Why did he play that long of a clip?
I don't know.
dan friesen
Like, how does that square with all of his constant talk about how you go out and these commies are just sneering and they're demons?
Like, that guy was very articulate.
He made his points.
You know, it's a maybe you don't fully agree with the anarchist line, but you can't really deny that he has a point.
And at the same time, the whole premise is we need to increase self-governance.
And someone like Alex fully supports that.
Supposed to.
jordan holmes
Supposed to.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That'd be like if Leno did one of those man on the street things, but for like five minutes, it was just people calmly getting every question right.
And they just kept playing it.
And he's like, I'm sure this one will be funny.
Okay.
All right.
Shit.
dan friesen
So Alex now brings up another video that was going around.
And this one, not good.
Not good.
alex jones
Here's just one of the many videos of white people being beaten to death or near death for just being white.
Here is the clip from Dallas.
unidentified
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Look at your stupid...
alex jones
That man is now in a coma in Dallas, but he's white.
He deserves it.
Okay, let's move on.
dan friesen
So hat tip to our friend Jared Holt for this one.
His tweets really helped cut down the amount of time it took to get to the bottom of the story.
So there was a video that was circulating online of a man getting beaten up by protesters, which was posted by Elijah Schaefer, who works for Glenbeck's Blaze TV.
The video was misleadingly edited to appear that it showed a guy who did nothing, getting beaten up for no reason.
Hours later, and after being pestered to do so, Schaefer posted the unedited version of the video, which shows what actually happened.
According to CBS 21 Dallas-Fort Worth, this guy was beat up because he was trying to fight protesters with a machete.
Police said that he'd shown up to, quote, allegedly protect his neighborhood from protesters, which he did by swinging a machete at people.
jordan holmes
Robert Evans isn't always right.
I'm just saying.
I'm not looking.
dan friesen
This is not machete.
Because this context was removed from the initial video, it made the rounds in all the Ray Wing circles, and the narrative was established that he was beaten up for no reason.
By the time the reality was made clear, it was too late, and this narrative was already in place.
And you see Alex here long past when he had every reason to know what was going on, reporting the fake version of it.
And Alex is taking it a step further and lying about two additional aspects.
He's saying that it's racism against whites-related crime, which it clearly is not.
And he's saying that this guy is in a coma.
There's no evidence of this, and it's not mentioned in the CBS 21 story about him, which says that he's in stable condition at the hospital.
And from what I understand, he was tweeting later.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
He was coma tweeting.
It's a regular occurrence nowadays.
dan friesen
So you have these things and like the optics of it.
Yeah, obviously, if you're taking this out of context and showing it, it looks really bad.
But then the unedited full context of it, you see, hey, this guy's charging at people with a fucking machete.
In these cunts, in these situations, I don't know what you, I don't know how you expect you wouldn't get beat up for that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no more, there's, yeah, the definition of self-defense when it comes to a man running at you with a machete is for people who love stand your fucking ground laws, somebody running at you with a machete means you get to beat the shit out of them.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, the thing that I think is important is that there's a real decent chance that Alex doesn't know the full context of this video and has only seen the short version.
unidentified
Probably.
dan friesen
And he is not curious in any way about what actually happened and has decided to add on to it all of his own piccadillos about he was beat up because he was white.
Oh, he's in a coma.
Let's make this even worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's the process that Alex uses to report his stories and why it's really dangerous in these times like we talk about when the concrete's wet for him to take these things and work with them because it's hard.
It's hard.
I mean, I think I probably could have found this story in CBS without Jared's tweet, but it made it a lot easier.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But without that kind of access to the context surrounding this, it'd be very difficult for someone who's in these right-wing information spheres to figure out, oh, this is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Why would they?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
They have no interest in figuring out if it's bullshit.
dan friesen
Right.
And by the time they do, they'll probably rationalize, like, well, he should have been out there with the machete.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, of course, of course.
Yeah, it's just a losing game.
jordan holmes
They're so violent.
He was just, look, you released the even more full clip of the protesters starting the fight with him and then him pulling the machete out.
And then, you know, it's just all I, that's so fucked up.
That's so fucked up that that guy would edit it that way.
That's just so fucked up.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
What a monster.
dan friesen
Well, you know, you want to create the appearance that you want to create.
And that's what you do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that should literally be disqualifying for ever being considered a journalist ever again.
dan friesen
Probably.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I mean, he works for Blaze TV.
jordan holmes
So he's already.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex decides, hey, man, things are kind of heavy.
Time to lighten up the mood.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Now, yesterday morning, I had some fun.
My daughter wanted to go buy some toys at Target.
She likes Target.
She likes a toy section.
I don't go to Target for other stuff, but I go there for that maybe a couple times a year.
jordan holmes
I didn't need to know that.
alex jones
One of our camera guys.
I said, okay, I've not been in a store yet.
I'm not worn a mask in three months.
But I said, I'm finally going to a store.
And so I'm going to wear this mask.
I'll make a joke out of it to show how it's a cult and how they make you submit.
So he came and he covered it.
So here's that report.
dan friesen
That's not a report.
Also, that's such bullshit.
Alex has been to many stores.
He's talked about it on the show.
He's talked about going to stores and fighting with people.
jordan holmes
He's talking about wearing a mask.
dan friesen
No, he's talked about not wearing a mask.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
He definitely doesn't.
Told him to wear a mask.
So maybe he can say he hasn't worn a mask or whatever.
I don't know if I believe that entirely, but he's gone to many stores.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
That's a load of bullshit.
And just not judging, a lot of them are liquor stores.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, this video is a comedy piece where he puts on a dinosaur mask and walks her on target.
jordan holmes
First off, I'm insulted that you said the word comedy anywhere near that.
dan friesen
I feel like you felt the air quotes.
So Alex spends a lot of time on this episode talking about his truck and how it got beaten up.
He got beaten up.
jordan holmes
Why would I expect it to be about anything other than him?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so he ends up getting to this point after talking about how these dumb commies came up and defaced his truck.
alex jones
And obviously we could have got out of the truck and beat the hell out of those people.
jordan holmes
Could you have?
alex jones
Give me a break.
But the point is, we were doing it to illustrate these are anti-free speech dirtbag monsters.
dan friesen
Monsters.
So because they're anti-free speech, dirtbag monsters, you know, hey, man, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what happens to them.
alex jones
All right.
Well, here's the problem.
You guys started this and you're backed by a major farm power.
So you're going to hurt.
You're going to get hurt now.
I mean, there's no other way to tell you, and I'm not even proud about it, but we'll make sure that, I mean, I'm going to get out of the way.
Let me tell you something.
You started this fight, and when your asses are getting shipped off to Supermax prisons and getting your asses, I mean, you asked for this, man.
You really started a fight with the wrong people.
So it's not with me.
It's not some big power trip.
I'm actually scared of American power.
Because once America's under attack and once we're unleashed, there is not anywhere you people can hide.
And finally, folks have figured out that there's no safe way to play games with you guys.
So, you want a fight?
You got one.
Hope you're ready for it, dumbasses.
Hope you're ready for it.
dan friesen
I mean, this is just Alex basically being like, my political enemies are fine to go to FEMA camps.
Like when they drag you off to Supermax prisons, that's no different.
I mean, and two, this is like when America wakes up, all of you.
Like, there's a differentiation between America and the people that he sees as his enemies.
And it's hard not to hear that and also think of Trump's comment about MAGA people love black people as being almost two distinct things.
jordan holmes
They're not the same thing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And, you know, I mean, Alex is, you know, he could probably make the argument that he's not talking about minorities here.
He's talking about the weird white people who are working for China, who are trying to make these riots happen or whatever.
But it doesn't matter.
Like, his audience is going to hear it the way they hear it.
jordan holmes
It's also illustrative of his fundamental cowardice and the same cowardice that most people on the right in that kind of militia circle share.
It's just that, like, oh, I could have.
No, I could have fought him.
I could have.
No, we could have beat him up easily.
And then it's like, they'll see what happens when America wakes up.
Because obviously, all of these people joining together and protesting against police brutality is not America waking up.
These are just thug protesters and all of that shit to people.
dan friesen
Soros.
No, if they meddling.
So in 2009, there was the MIAC report that came out that discussed how a lot of fringe right-wing militia, dangerous types existed.
And there were some things that were characteristics that could be associated with them.
Some things like support for Ron Paul.
They didn't say that Ron Paul supporters were all dangerous right-wing militias.
It was just something that was like, hey, along with a liking the Turner diaries, that might be a sign that we've got to keep an eye on these people.
Yeah, yeah.
And Alex freaked out and led a massive campaign to get this report redacted.
And it became a cornerstone of his whole thing.
It's like they're trying to say that we're terrorists.
So now Trump, his hero, has come out and said that he is going to label Antifa domestic terrorists.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which I don't know what that means.
jordan holmes
He's going to label Looney Tunes domestic terrorists as well.
unidentified
Probably.
dan friesen
And the Animaniacs.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, they're going to put them in.
jordan holmes
They're out of control.
alex jones
Well, here's the headline: President Trump tweets: The United States of America will be designating Antifa as a terrorist organization.
But they are a foreign power of George Soros and the Chinese.
And they are trying to terrorize the nation.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
What a time to be alive right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, what a time indeed.
Yeah, this is a real, real troubling turn of events, if only because Antifa is not a group that exists.
jordan holmes
Ah, Antifa is whomever you don't like, Dan.
dan friesen
That's the problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a big issue.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is, I mean, I think the people who I've heard discussing this the most clearly is, you know, saying this is just a move to basically label whoever you don't want terrorists.
Yep, you're all terrorists.
It's bad.
jordan holmes
It's terrible.
dan friesen
It's a bad sign.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's terrifying.
dan friesen
So there's a lot of things that Alex seems to be okay with that he shouldn't be okay with.
You know, like there's a lot of things that you can imagine very easily, an earlier version of Alex Jones being very fucking worried about.
Things like, you know, the National Guard shooting paintballs or rubber bullets at people on their porches.
jordan holmes
Yeah, their personal property.
dan friesen
Things like the president labeling a nebulous, non-existent, non-centralized group, a terrorist group.
Things like any number of these things.
Alex would be against those things.
And when he was out on the streets, people might have reminded him of that.
And here is his rationalization for why, hey, man, I'm still against the police state.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
People say to me, when I was out there balorning Antifa today, almost every person that knew who I was, every third or fourth person would say, you were against the police state.
That doesn't mean the police.
And the ignorance of these people is amazing.
A police state is where there's no rule of law and we're under martial law and new processes thrown out.
That has nothing to do with a cop.
The police tires meeting the road.
It's where policy meets reality.
And so if the globalists are trying to train cops to take guns and break up families and forcibly take your seven-year-old for a sex change, I'm not personally mad at that police officer coming to do that, but I'm going to fight them.
It's where the rubber meets the road.
dan friesen
Let me translate that for you.
Police state doesn't mean anything other than police enforcing rules that Alex doesn't like.
alex jones
Yes.
dan friesen
That is all.
Even if they're imaginary, it's just the, it has nothing.
It has nothing to do with the tactics.
It has nothing to do with any of the larger implications of things.
It has everything to do with I know like law.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's it.
That's sad.
That's really sad.
He's made multiple documentaries titled Police State.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What he should have titled them is I'm the big whiny baby.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Real bad.
jordan holmes
What a pathetic loser.
dan friesen
Yeah, you want to hear some even more pathetic stuff?
jordan holmes
Let's hear it.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is where it gets really sad.
Alex starts to really get wistful and sort of like.
jordan holmes
I remember when I believed stuff.
dan friesen
Nope.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
You wish.
jordan holmes
I wish.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No.
Instead, he starts thinking about, like, man, there were times when I was so foolish to doubt Trump.
How could I have ever been so dumb?
jordan holmes
God's name.
alex jones
And so we sit here in the year 2020.
dan friesen
I'm damn.
alex jones
I've never had any questions, man.
Three nights ago, I stayed up all night long.
unidentified
And he was coming.
alex jones
And I wasn't ashamed, but I looked down for about 30 minutes.
I had my eyes closed and I looked up and I went, I couldn't do one-tenth of goodest job as the president did.
And every time I've second-guessed it, when he's been surrounded, he was right about everything.
And he stood up against all of them.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
This is gross.
This is more intensely, you know, he is the savior.
He's the chosen one than anything I ever heard anyone do with Obama.
And I was like, oh, they all think he's the chosen one.
Like, this is obscene.
This is.
jordan holmes
No, this is like I had my head down for 30 minutes and then I lifted it up and I licked Trump's butthole because I loved it so much.
I can't believe that I ever imagined not licking Trump's butthole for even a second.
dan friesen
And it gets worse, man.
Alex almost cries here talking about how no matter what happens, we have to support Trump.
No matter what.
jordan holmes
This is fucked.
alex jones
If we don't back the president now, we deserve what we get.
So I literally had a moment on Friday.
I told listeners, I said, this is my gut, my spirit.
Because while we're in this fight, I keep checking the president.
Is he bright?
Is he perfect for my position of not being in the middle of where he is?
And my gut told me, just back the president 100% no matter what now, because if he doesn't get 100% backing, spiritually, culturally, economically, metaphysically, we're going to lose.
Trump needs full backing right now.
He is 1,000% what we asked for.
He is the champion of the Republic.
He has done.
It's unbelievable that God gave us this person.
And you know, the Patriots in our own government were like, who can challenge a Chi-Com takeover?
Who can challenge the slave?
And Trump had his whole life preparing, knowing what he was doing for the position.
He wasn't even part of the system, but he was metaphysically preparing himself for that position now.
dan friesen
This is so fucked.
jordan holmes
All I hear is a peaceful transition of power in 2020.
dan friesen
You know what I love, too?
This is the Sunday episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah, praise the Lord.
Praise him.
Get rid of your Jesus and your crosses.
Put a big orange fake hair on your head and call yourself a worshiper.
dan friesen
Yeah, instead of going to church today, what I did is I got on air and I blew hard about how divine Trump is.
jordan holmes
God, that is so pathetic.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, that's very weak.
So he jumps off this topic for a little bit and decides he's going to scare his audience about how these protests are coming to whites.
jordan holmes
I feel like he should have just scared his audience with the, I'm going to blow Trump no matter what he does.
dan friesen
No, man, I think that they're encouraged by that.
alex jones
And meanwhile, Antifa has put out on their Twitter.
Notice they have a Twitter.
I don't have a Twitter, but they have a Twitter.
Tonight's the night, comrades.
Tonight we say F the city, and we move into this residential areas, the white hoods.
Total race-based.
I mean, think about that.
And we take what's ours.
dan friesen
So this is an account that was at Antifa underscore US.
jordan holmes
Sounds true.
dan friesen
I don't think that's a real Twitter account.
jordan holmes
Antifa loves announcing.
dan friesen
There's a lot of fake accounts.
Anybody can make one of these.
Alex constantly gets tricked by these things, probably because he really wants to get tricked.
Also, that account has been suspended by Twitter.
So Alex is by the time he's on air, it had already been suspended.
It's not even.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
It's too real.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know who got called in on the weekend, but someone was able to get Skype working because Millie calls in.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
And dude, I want you to.
I'm going to put Mike down for this.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm going to be honest with you up front.
I have no fucking idea what this Millie is talking about.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I have no idea.
Alex doesn't have any idea either.
He's completely confused by a conspiracy theory that she's trying to spin.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
And I'd like everyone to remember that Millie Weaver first came to our attention.
jordan holmes
Rainbow Snatch.
dan friesen
Exactly.
Playing a goofy clown of a zero comedy comedy.
jordan holmes
She's a serious reporter.
dan friesen
Yeah, very much so.
millie weaver
This is more than just protests and riots.
This is actually a military insurrection that's going on right now.
This is a classic IIA operation that's being run, Alex.
It is an internet interactive activities, psychological operation that's being run on U.S. citizens.
This is technology, the same technology that they used in Ukraine through Wikistrat that they are deploying on U.S. citizens.
They are social media.
alex jones
Trump isn't in control of the government.
Deep state elements are launching this right now.
millie weaver
Oh, absolutely.
This is an attack because they know they have used their predictive program software to know that Joe Biden is not going to have a chance to win the 2020 elections.
That's right.
They have prediction software, Alex, where they can use their AI programs to scour the entire internet.
alex jones
Now I agree.
Their algorithms show they're losing.
dan friesen
I just listened to that.
I'm like, I got no interest in this.
This is.
I was listening.
I was like, okay, we got fucking future predicting software.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And they're worried that Biden isn't going to win.
So they started.
jordan holmes
No, they're not worried.
dan friesen
They know.
So they started some kind of an online interactive simulation where I don't know.
jordan holmes
It was called Pokemon Go at the start, and now it's Pokemon Protest.
dan friesen
I looked into this a tiny bit, and I think she just found a blog that someone wrote that talked about this IIA stuff.
I have no fucking idea.
I also don't care.
jordan holmes
No, I'm out on Millie Weaver's bullshit.
dan friesen
Hey, let me tell you what.
So's Alex.
Listen to how disrespectful he is to her while she's trying to, like, if he believed her, he wouldn't act this way.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
If he believed her, and she's bringing a gigantic story that's like, oh, all this is just psych warfare or something, he wouldn't keep interrupting her like this.
millie weaver
My source, Patrick Bergey, that created Shadownet, that runs these IIA operations, the psychological operations on the American people now.
The way they got a hold of this technology is the military contracts out private corporations to create some of its weapons and its AI programs.
alex jones
Sure, they've all got back doors.
William Benny's been on record that there's 800,000 private contractors that have more access to the government.
There's 800,000 contractors have more access than the president.
millie weaver
Exactly.
dan friesen
That's not good communication.
You can hear her trying to talk while you're William Benny.
jordan holmes
Yep, this is old information, but you're totally right.
800,000.
dan friesen
That's a little disrespectful.
So they talk about what they should do, what Trump should do about this IIA operation or whatever.
And so I don't understand exactly what they're talking.
Basically, they want the military to come in to fight against AI.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know what this means.
jordan holmes
I like it.
alex jones
So what should we do?
What should Trump do to counter this?
millie weaver
Trump, I really think that Trump needs to crack down and try to, like he's doing, deploy the National Guard, but he needs to do it in all these things.
alex jones
I mean, listen, they already brought Chinese control.
They're already ruling us, so we're not, he should send the army in to literally grab control of all this AI that we built.
dan friesen
But Millie was saying sending in the National Guard to all these other states.
That's not sending it against an AI.
Alex, I think, is talking about sending the army to Google or something like that.
Yeah.
He seems to be talking on another level.
She's talking about sending the military against protests.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which I don't understand how that deals with the problem if this is some kind of a giant online-based psychological warfare thing.
They're talking on two different tracks completely, but they both involve Trump using military forces against someone they don't like.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's good.
jordan holmes
And neither of them make any sense.
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm amazed.
I'm really amazed at the volume of times they talk about what Trump should do.
The subsequent number of times Trump does not do that.
And then them claiming that he's fulfilled every promise.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's very repetitive.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It happens a lot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Imagine all the stuff you don't hear that I do.
Because it happens more than we play on the show.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex asks Millie what's going to happen.
She's like, it's going to get worse.
And to that, I say, yeah, probably.
alex jones
What do you expect to come next?
Because it's such an amazing point in human history.
millie weaver
It's only going to get crazier, Alex.
They try to buy a weapon.
It wasn't enough.
They try to focus impeachment.
It wasn't enough.
I mean, they have hit him with everything.
They've hit the American people with everything.
I mean, is it any coincidence that these rioters, as soon as businesses are about to open up, the economy is about to start booming again.
They know it.
As soon as that happens, oh, they all go out and hit all these businesses, break their windows, stop them from opening.
This is a hit on the economy as well as to try to further divide the nation.
It's only going to get worse, Alex.
People need to buckle up and get ready because it's going to get worse.
And please share information.
It's important to be sharing information so that we can get that true information out to the right people to the American people.
alex jones
Oh, you're right.
It's so precious.
Every person listening, however, listening on local radio stations, TV stations, the internet.
We're all meant for this moment right now.
dan friesen
Did Alex take a sedative?
Like, he feels like he, it sounds like he's about to fall asleep.
jordan holmes
He got tired of her bullshit.
He got tired of whole burgers.
He was like, Jesus, this is bullshit too big for me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I don't think it's that.
jordan holmes
He's sharing information.
dan friesen
I think he doesn't understand the conspiracy that she's presenting.
jordan holmes
He gets tired when he has to think too hard.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like, why are you doing this?
unidentified
Okay, so, and they're the military?
Internet?
dan friesen
Interactive?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Where is the AI?
dan friesen
Millie, what the fuck are you talking about?
Just yell Soros.
unidentified
Yeah.
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
You would not know our editorial stance.
dan friesen
If you want to write this, fine.
Don't bring it to me because I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
jordan holmes
I would appreciate an InfoWars guy, like the AP style guide and the InfoWars style guide of just being like, anytime, anytime you're talking about this, Soros.
dan friesen
Honestly, you know what?
I was cooking earlier, and that thought crossed my mind as I was sitting there putting some food together.
I was thinking, like, I wonder, I wouldn't be too surprised.
I don't think this is the case, but I wouldn't be too surprised if in the writers' rooms or whatever at InfoWars in the offices, there was some kind of a rubric that went into like, here's the type of news event.
Here is the product we sell based on this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And here is the villain.
Like, I wouldn't be too surprised if there was almost a branching tree, like a reasoning tree of like, here's what you do.
If this, then that, if this, then that.
jordan holmes
That would make perfect sense.
If it would shock me.
dan friesen
If they haven't developed that after 20 years or whatever, it'd be pretty wild.
jordan holmes
I guarantee they haven't developed it.
dan friesen
It's too hard.
jordan holmes
You would have to read at least four pages for that.
And that is just not going to happen.
dan friesen
Someone else at Infowars must be literate, though.
jordan holmes
You would hope.
dan friesen
Anyway, nobody knows how to use Skype.
When I said that, when Millie says things are going to get worse, and I agree, I disagree with everything else.
But I do think that things are going to keep going in the direction that they're going, absent any kind of leadership, absent any kind of recognition of what the conversation is.
Then I don't see if force is met with force, then I don't see, I don't see people who are protesting having any reason to not continue because of the validity and the sincerely held beliefs that are behind what they're doing.
At the same time, I don't have a whole lot of faith that Trump would have the restraint, the bigness to recognize the complaints and the humility to accept a conversation that's going on.
I think that there's too much built up into not looking weak.
And I worry what those two forces up against each other intersecting could lead to.
And so I do worry about that.
But I think all the other stuff is bullshit, like fake impeachment, fake virus.
jordan holmes
All I can see from, because this is the opportunity for all of our local leaders to step up, and they are absolutely not doing that.
What is the question that nobody that they are answering this way?
What is going to make the protest stop?
And all of them so far are saying that it will be police brutality that will stop the protests.
Obviously, they're not saying brutality, but I'll be goddamned if that's not what they're banking on.
And if that's not, so if that's not going to stop the protest, we have to provide them with an alternative.
Because the protests right now don't have an alternative to stop the protest.
Nobody has the demands.
Nobody is saying what we need to do is, you know, get rid of, go through the cops.
We have lists of people who have posted white nationalist shit on Facebook.
We have documented examples of all this stuff.
You want the protest to stop.
You make concerted change within the system.
dan friesen
I'm sure.
jordan holmes
And they're not taking any responsibility for it.
Nobody's doing anything.
dan friesen
I'm sure there have been some folks who have floated some like these are optimistic goals.
jordan holmes
Well, it's going to take the leadership.
It's going to take like Lori Lightfoot's press conference today.
It's going to take them not just saying it is tragic what happened to Floyd.
It's going to take them saying, because of our inaction forever, that is why you guys are protesting.
It is because of us.
And we have to change too.
And they are not doing that.
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
It does seem like that would be an essential piece of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, and I just keep this in to sort of gut punch all of the victimhood narratives that Alex has and all the censorship.
You should just not say things like this.
alex jones
Millie Weaver, thank you so much.
Your videos are at Millennium Millie on YouTube and other places.
Thank you so much.
unidentified
Oh, what's that?
dan friesen
Millie's still on YouTube, huh?
Yes, not everybody is getting censored.
jordan holmes
Oh, everybody's getting censored.
They're censoring the alt-right, censoring the right so much.
dan friesen
It's all bullshit.
jordan holmes
Maybe we'll see on YouTube live streams.
dan friesen
All bullshit.
So I think we come to the end of this, and I think you start to see a little bit of like this.
The gears are starting to try and work for Alex.
He's trying to create the things that he needs to create a false flag narrative out of this with the Soros contracts that are bullshit that he's bringing back into the conversation, shifting the villain from Gates to Soros to suit the needs of the moment.
Of course, I think you see him picking up whatever he can in terms of videos that come out with the bricks.
Oh, that's proof of Soros.
jordan holmes
Proof of everything.
dan friesen
You got the guy getting beat up.
You just take, you know, hey, they're all beating up whites.
You see that behavior, and it's very reminiscent.
It's very much, that's Alex Jones, what he does.
And then at the same time, I think probably more offensively, the just complete fabrication of embellishment, speculation wildly about George Floyd himself in a way that's just designed to make the audience feel more comfortable with the fact that he got murdered.
jordan holmes
It's not fine for anybody to die, but it's more fine for him to die.
dan friesen
Yep.
I think those are the two-pronged approach that he has.
You know, sort of make this not as hard of a pill to swallow and then create a narrative where the globalists are doing this.
You see that starting to take shape here.
And I predict that it will continue.
And I don't know, man.
What I worry about is that, like, you know, when coronavirus started up, that really helped Alex, who made a lot of money off that, and it kept him pretty afloat for a bit.
And I'm pretty worried that this is a ratings bonanza kind of thing for Alex.
And it's the sort of thing that it does have the potential.
And Alex is most adept at taking things that are really hot and really unclear and using them to his advantage.
And I do have a real sincere worry that he'll be able to make a lot of money on this.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
I am sick of these people being rewarded.
I'm just sick of it.
dan friesen
Hopefully, it's followed by consequences in the form of one of these lawsuits crippling him.
jordan holmes
Finally coming down.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But we'll see.
And we'll be back, Jordan.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
I'm on Facebook.
Wait, wait, we're on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
You know about the show.
Please donate to a bail fund in your area, or there are aggregate bail funds now where you can donate and they will distribute across the board.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yeah, that'd be great.
We're also, wait, we'll be back.
Until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm George Soros with Forklift.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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