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May 27, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#437: Gawain With a Telescope

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss a recent bit of news about their favorite Wacky Wednesday topic, the land of space weirdos called Project Camelot. In this installment, the gents take what could be their last walk through Camelot.

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d
dan friesen
28:58
j
jordan holmes
12:03
k
kerry cassidy
05:58
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shepard ambellas
02:37
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a
alex jones
00:49
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alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
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unidentified
and enjoy.
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Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan!
jordan holmes
Dan, quick question!
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
Why don't you lead us off?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is courtesy of my partner, Black Dragon Queen.
Christy sent us some masks, and they fit her face.
Perfectly.
unidentified
This is a bright spot for her, as opposed to you.
jordan holmes
She literally said, she will kill me.
And I did not point out that Black Dragon Queen, Christy, made her life infinitely good.
dan friesen
Oh, that's wonderful.
jordan holmes
I must!
And I am grateful.
dan friesen
Fantastic.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I guess my bright spot for the week, or not week, you both are screwing that up now, is I was watching some videos of a guy, an ex-convict, talk about life in prison.
jordan holmes
All right.
Did you get scared straight?
dan friesen
I mean, I was already not really committing crimes.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I really got glad that I don't have to know any of that stuff.
You know, like, he's talking about how you clean a peanut butter jar and stuff.
Sure, sure, sure.
This is fascinating to watch him rip up, like, newspaper and boil some water with it.
I'm glad I just don't have to worry about that.
I got hot water.
I can just, you know, dunk it out.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But it was also really fascinating to me, like, the ingenuity that is displayed by people in prison.
You take away people's ability to do very simple things, like send a message a couple cells over or whatever, and they find these just insanely elaborate ways to do it, like hardening toothpaste up to make a weight to throw.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course.
dan friesen
It's impressive, but also very depressing.
jordan holmes
It bears out the old circumstances dictate kind of concept there.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we had an interesting episode to go over today.
jordan holmes
I believe you.
dan friesen
But before we get down to business on that, we've got to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So, first, Michael R., thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Michael!
dan friesen
Thanks, Michael.
Next, Tom D., thank you so much.
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alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Tom.
dan friesen
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You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Utah Outkast, which I assume is just about everybody.
dan friesen
Next, all one word.
An obvious alias.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
An obvious alias.
jordan holmes
An obvious alias.
dan friesen
Next, Alexander S. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Alexander.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Sarah P. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Sarah!
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So, thank you so much, Brett R. You are now a technocrat.
And, all one word, C-obstructive.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
Alright, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Brett R., and thank you so much, C. Obstructive.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy this show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it, or you can take that generosity and that spirit and twist it around and...
Directed at a local charity in your area that's helping people in need.
jordan holmes
Yes, we would appreciate it either very much.
dan friesen
Indeed!
Jordan, before we get to the formal episode here, we gotta do a...
jordan holmes
How's the year of the seltzer?
dan friesen
Well...
unidentified
It's going pretty well.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
This last couple days, I've really...
You know what I've been doing?
I've been really focusing on some, like, real meat and potatoes.
Basic seltzers.
jordan holmes
Meat and potato seltzers.
dan friesen
Not these, like, really fun, interesting, ambitious seltzers.
jordan holmes
Fucking orange.
dan friesen
No, not orange.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, lemon and lime one.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
What I did is I knocked out all the flavors of Ice Mountain.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Found, you know, Lucy's of Ice Mountain sparkling waters.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so we went through the black cherry, the lemon, lime, and triple berry.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
All get a 60. They're all fine.
jordan holmes
Exactly fine.
dan friesen
Yes, exactly.
jordan holmes
They are meat and potatoes, seltzers.
dan friesen
Real good, serviceable, but nothing to get too excited about.
jordan holmes
You're not going to go crazy.
dan friesen
Now, also, I've gone with the Canfield.
I don't know if you know about Canfield.
jordan holmes
I don't.
dan friesen
They have a soda called...
Canfield 50-50.
jordan holmes
Is that a Seagram 7 and 7?
dan friesen
No, it's kind of a Fresca vibe.
I like it.
I've always enjoyed that as a soda option.
Turns out they have some seltzers, so we got the lime and the lemon of those.
Both 70s.
They're better than Ice Mountain, but again, nothing too crazy good.
But it's nice.
Spending a little bit of time in this world of just, like, normal.
Normal seltzers.
unidentified
You know what?
jordan holmes
I have a deep question for you.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And this is probably the year of the seltzer's biggest question.
Alright.
Would you revisit the ecstatic seltzers as something that you would drink regularly?
Do you know what I mean?
Or is an ecstatic seltzer something that must exist in its own time period?
dan friesen
Do you mean the ones that I've rated very highly?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Would you drink the Limoncello as just like a regular drink all the time?
dan friesen
I probably wouldn't drink it all the time because I wouldn't want to get tired of it.
jordan holmes
Doesn't it seem like a treat?
dan friesen
But I would drink it normally.
Same with like the AHA Black Cherry Coffee.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
I would definitely go to those on a regular basis.
But yeah, I think that there's some that I've rated pretty highly that I'd be like, I have to be in the mood for this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what I was questioning.
dan friesen
Yeah, there are some.
And this is kind of one of the flaws of my rating system.
Right.
And that is that I do give points for ingenuity and creativity.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And that makes things a little bit difficult.
jordan holmes
And novelty as well.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Which wears off.
dan friesen
Yeah, no doubt.
So, that's been the Earl of the Seltzer.
Jordan, today, we've got an interesting episode to go over.
And I want to say, we're doing a little bit of a Wacky Wednesday thing, but we're not getting to the Bill Cooper thing that I teased on our last episode.
And that's because there's a little bit more preparation that I need to do on that, and I have not had the time to really get as in-depth on it as I want to, because also, as I referenced recently, I have to move.
And so, I've been apartment hunting.
And that's a pain under normal circumstances.
Much more complicated now.
jordan holmes
Oh, what's different now?
dan friesen
Well, there's this virus.
Oh, okay.
I haven't heard.
It complicates things a little bit.
And that has been a little bit of a frustration.
And just like, you know, trying to find leads, tons and tons of dead ends and stuff.
That's taken up a bit of my time.
And so the Bill Cooper thing will have to wait for when we can have the bandwidth to do it properly.
jordan holmes
It's got to be done.
dan friesen
Right.
But at the same time, there is something important that's going on in the world of our Wacky Wednesdays.
And it's something that is going to have lasting consequences, I think, actually.
And it's the kind of thing that...
I was thinking about getting some music to play on this episode.
jordan holmes
Oh no.
dan friesen
I was thinking about playing either The Sound of Silence or Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.
Some other song that has goodbye in it.
jordan holmes
Is somebody shitting on somebody?
dan friesen
No, no one's shitting.
But, I mean, we've done it before, but I think we officially probably have to say goodbye to our friends at Project Camelot.
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
We have to say goodbye?
dan friesen
Yep.
And we may not have a choice in the matter.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
They might be saying goodbyes?
dan friesen
It's possible.
I'm not entirely sure.
But just the other day, Carrie, swearing Carrie Cassidy over Project Camelot, put up a video where there was a big announcement that she made.
kerry cassidy
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
jordan holmes
Hi, Carrie!
kerry cassidy
So we are going to be a subscription-based website now, and our website is projectcamelot.tv.
And these are the three plans.
It's quite simple and easy to join.
And I can show you here on the screen the various ways to find it on our website.
And what I'd like to say is that, as many people know, YouTube has demonetized us a couple weeks ago.
And so this is our solution.
dan friesen
And thus, we have Carrie Cassidy taking Project Camelot into a subscription model.
jordan holmes
If you pay a dime to Carrie Cassidy, I'm going to be mad at you.
dan friesen
I think this probably is the actual end of the road for us covering her nonsense.
jordan holmes
It has to be.
dan friesen
For one, there's absolutely no chance that I will be spending any money on her content.
And secondly...
It doesn't feel right to do episodes going over things that creators keep behind a paywall.
unidentified
It does!
dan friesen
Yeah, Project Camelot is stupid, and I love mocking it, but I still respect Carrie's right to her intellectual property.
If she wants to try to get people to pay for access to her videos, it would be pretty shitty of me to pay for a membership, then rebroadcast most of her videos on our own show?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's just, that's kind of unethical.
jordan holmes
You're actually right there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So if she is going to a subscription model, then just based on my understanding of...
What I think the limitations of fair use are, I don't think we can do episodes about them.
jordan holmes
It's very frustrating that I agree with you, because I think she's a bad person.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And I don't like giving her a lot of respect for that.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's not giving her respect, it's just her contact.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
I know, but playing fair doesn't seem fair when they're bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't really care.
My morality isn't dictated by what these people deserve.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Necessarily.
jordan holmes
I understand that.
dan friesen
But, this looks like where we part, you know?
And I'm not the only one.
Going over the comments on the YouTube announcement, it appears that the response is pretty divided, with some people saying that they're going to come along with a new model, and others saying they aren't going to pay.
This is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, naturally.
dan friesen
And a lot of it is pretty fair.
There's a lot of people who are having their videos demonetized on YouTube right now, and so a lot of folks are trying to migrate to a subscription model of some sort.
And so you hear in the comments, there's a ton of people who are like, I get...
My content from XYZ different people, and I'm not going to be able to afford to pay all of them whatever.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
Why don't you guys all just group up and make your own thing, and now we're back to YouTube?
jordan holmes
It's kind of way worse to make people have to pay for the lies you tell them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That really fucks me up.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is definitely a...
jordan holmes
I mean, you don't even have to pay for the not-lies we tell you.
dan friesen
It's true.
So, you know, this is...
This is kind of expected.
Some people are in, some people are out.
That's what happens when big changes like this happen.
You keep some people in the fold, but you're definitely going to lose some of that audience.
What's less expected is that a couple commenters point out in the comment section that the page where you're supposed to sign up for a membership to the new Project Camelot is an unsecured website.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright.
dan friesen
I went to the site to check for myself, and sure enough, it is an unsecure page, which is pretty fucking dangerous.
jordan holmes
Let's put my...
Let's put all my credit card info on an unsecured page.
I love it.
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
In theory, anyone who signed up for her subscription service could have had their information stolen, which is just a gigantic bummer.
jordan holmes
That's a double whammy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Ultimately, I think this is a terrible plan.
I have zero faith that it's actually going to work out well, and there's a pretty decent chance it'll just end up staying on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'll go back to Project Camelot in about six weeks.
dan friesen
Whatever the thing is, this is dumb.
It's just dumb.
Unless you're also putting all your content up on YouTube, you're never going to reach people who might stumble across your content.
It seems like shooting yourself in the foot in order to make a couple bucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, she's in a catch-22.
If she makes at least a significant amount of money from YouTube monetization, and that's all gone, then she has no income there.
So she tries to replace it with her, I guess, subscription content, but nobody's going to follow along there.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem likely.
jordan holmes
So it's...
She's fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, she might as well sell hats.
dan friesen
Some people...
jordan holmes
Make America Camelot again.
dan friesen
I think she actually does bring up that she's going to start selling some merch or something.
jordan holmes
Okay, perfect.
dan friesen
But, like, I feel, you know, I don't feel that bad.
Because, honestly...
jordan holmes
Because we don't sell any hats?
dan friesen
No.
We should get some hats.
No, I mean, I don't feel that bad for the situation because it's like, yes, you're sitting around talking about how the coronavirus is turning people into vampires in China.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And you're denying that there is a virus at other times.
Like, yes, get...
YouTube has every right to say you can't make money off these videos.
I don't feel bad about that.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
She's also gotten warnings in the past, so I don't feel bad about anybody being treated unfairly, but it's a shitty situation.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And, you know, I do wish her luck on some level, except I don't, because she also might be an anti-Semite.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Kind of is an anti-Semite.
jordan holmes
Totally is.
To me, this is a lot like Al Capone kind of situation.
You're getting her where her money is.
You're not getting her for her actual crimes.
She's spreading disinformation that's going to get people hurt and maybe even killed.
But what you're doing is you're just taking away her money stream.
So it's like, yeah, I get what you're saying, but she should probably be arraigned on some other charges, maybe?
dan friesen
As long as free speech is a thing, I don't know what you're going to do with that.
But that's how it goes.
Alex is probably not going to be taken down for anything other than...
Some lawsuit.
jordan holmes
I wonder what his tech situation is.
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Maybe he gets some...
What is it?
What's the name of it?
Now I'm mad.
What's the name of the prison where Capone was?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Alcatraz?
Alcatraz.
God damn it.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
No, it's bad.
I was even in San Francisco a year ago.
dan friesen
We are recording a little later than we normally do, and I think it's affecting.
jordan holmes
It's not going great.
dan friesen
This might be our last rodeo with Project Camelot, is what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
That's brutal.
unidentified
This is an end to an era.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The part that makes me feel a little bit stupid about this is that we've already been like, we're not going to talk about her anymore.
And then we've gone back a couple times because it's like, what the fuck is going on over here?
jordan holmes
We're on ten installments of Mark Richards.
Yeah, we've done it.
dan friesen
And then, you know, if...
There is still content that's not behind a paywall that's still on YouTube that I'd still consider that fair game.
So there is a possibility that we'll hear more about raptors and antiquing and the mercantile cats.
Mercantile dogs, excuse me.
Spider leadership.
There may be some of that in the future, but for now it's unclear.
And so we will go on this last adventure in theory.
Wonderful.
So, on a couple days earlier, before she made the announcement that she's going to a subscription model, Carrie got interviewed by a guy named Shepard Ambulus, who has an organization, I guess, called, I think it's a blog, called IntelliHub.
jordan holmes
Sounds trustworthy.
Sure.
dan friesen
He is a guy who was first interviewed by Alex Jones in 2009.
And on his YouTube page, that interview is on there, and it says, the interview that started it all.
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Alex has had him on as a guest very regularly.
He's tried to give him a job.
The way he does on air all the time.
Like, I gotta give you a job.
That kind of thing.
He was one of the sources for Alex's coverage of the Las Vegas shooting.
Shepard would go on to talk about how there were helicopters shooting at the crowd.
And what have you.
So he's a real ding-dong.
But he's very adjacent to Alex.
So this is a really close...
You don't need six degrees of separation on this one.
This is...
Direct.
jordan holmes
He literally is Kevin Bacon.
Yes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is a guy who's frequently on Alex Jones' show, and here he is interviewing Carrie Cassidy about whatever dumb bullshit she's got going on.
jordan holmes
Let's see what's going on.
dan friesen
So we start, and Shepard introduces the thing, because it's his show, so you don't get to say hello to Carrie on this one.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
But it starts with just like, hey, I really respect your work, which is a bad start.
shepard ambellas
You are listening to the IntelliHub podcast.
I'm your host.
Shepard Ambellis, and today we have a very special guest with us, Project Camelot.
I know you all know the name.
Carrie Cassidy is with us.
Her website, projectcamelotportal.com.
Carrie, you've done over a thousand interviews with whistleblowers.
jordan holmes
First question, should you have?
shepard ambellas
One of the most fascinating stories I've ever heard in my life came from a lot of your interviews and fascinating stories.
dan friesen
This guy is terrible.
He's so boring.
He's got an awful interview style.
He's got an awful droning voice.
It's very tough.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's not great.
dan friesen
You can see already just the way this starts off.
He's ceding this ground of calling these people whistleblowers, talking about all the most fascinating, amazing stories.
It's like, yeah, they are amazing stories.
You're talking about how the walking with dinosaurs are actual dinosaurs.
Yes, that is fascinating.
jordan holmes
No, it's like interviewing Isaac Asimov and being like, so is Harry Seldon real?
Are you sure?
dan friesen
Yeah, it is fascinating.
So if this is our last time sitting around talking with Carrie, It's actually kind of fitting because Shepard asks her about her roots.
How did this get going?
jordan holmes
Oh shit, are we coming full circle?
dan friesen
A little bit.
We get to hear a little bit about what led to the creation of Project Camelot.
And of course, it's a career that didn't work out.
jordan holmes
Naturally, naturally.
kerry cassidy
Okay, well I started out, actually I was working in Hollywood for 20 years and I reached a glass ceiling.
I decided to pick up a consumer-grade camcorder, and I started going out to make my own UFO documentary.
jordan holmes
Thanks for telling us it's consumer-grade, by the way.
kerry cassidy
I started attending conferences, and I actually got this idea that I would make a documentary saying, have you seen UFO?
unidentified
Two speakers who would talk about everybody else seeing them.
kerry cassidy
But not themselves.
dan friesen
I like that idea.
I like that idea of like I was going to do this documentary where I just put a camera in people's face and I'm like, have you seen a UFO?
jordan holmes
I personally...
dan friesen
I don't want to talk about what you know about the subject.
Have you seen it?
jordan holmes
Have you seen it?
dan friesen
I have not.
jordan holmes
Have you seen one?
dan friesen
I have not.
jordan holmes
I would really appreciate a series of interviews that last about 14 seconds that start with, hey, have you seen any UFO?
And somebody's like...
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Moving along.
jordan holmes
Alright, next person.
Next person.
dan friesen
Also, great.
Great way to phrase it.
I hit the glass ceiling in Hollywood.
That's a great...
That is a perfect...
I know so many comics.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying she's wrong.
I'm not saying she's wrong.
dan friesen
I know 100,000 comics who hit glass ceilings at open mics.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
Which is not to say that women do not hit a glass ceiling.
There is a glass ceiling.
dan friesen
I'm sure there are, but I would suggest that there's probably a talent deficit.
jordan holmes
I don't think Carrie hit the glass ceiling.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I think Carrie could hit the glass ceiling with a lot more work and effort.
dan friesen
I don't want to diminish or make fun of the idea that there is a gender disparity and all that.
That's all good and well.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I don't think it's relevant.
jordan holmes
Not for her.
dan friesen
Not for her.
Anyway, I decided to get a camcorder and ask people if they see UFOs.
If that was the idea...
jordan holmes
I think you proved in the second half of the sentence you didn't hit the first half of the sentence.
dan friesen
If that's the first project that you go to after you're unshackled from Hollywood dreams or whatever, it's kind of indicative that maybe you don't have the best ideas.
jordan holmes
Look, I'm not saying that I hit a glass ceiling whenever I say my stand-up career hasn't gone great.
dan friesen
Sure.
I guess maybe a better way to put it is you plateaued.
You know, because that's kind of like, that's where you could get to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
That's a great way to put my career as well.
dan friesen
At a certain point in her trajectory of trying to make this documentary and asking people, they've seen UFOs.
jordan holmes
Upward and then very, very flat.
dan friesen
She meets Bill Ryan, who ended up being her partner with Project Camelot at the beginning.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And who she believes is, like, maybe a reincarnation of King Arthur.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Or descended from King Arthur or something.
kerry cassidy
In the process, I also came across Bill Ryan, who became my partner in Camelot, who was representing the Serpo.org project.
And I invited him for an interview.
unidentified
I went to Laughlin that year.
kerry cassidy
This was actually several months later after I was making my documentary.
And I interviewed him.
It went very well.
unidentified
We ended up staying in touch as friends.
kerry cassidy
And I got a small inheritance from my mother passing, and I went to Egypt, and on the way back I stopped over in England where Bill was living, and he showed me the power places in England, specifically Tintagel, which is one of the former homes of King Arthur.
And that's where the idea was born, too.
unidentified
Create a website for us to team up.
dan friesen
I just have to stress, there is no consensus that King Arthur was a real person.
That's not borne out by historical fact.
Also, that castle that she references was not a home of King Arthur's, even in the legend.
It was the place where King Arthur was conceived.
But I guess you could say he lived there, based on being in the womb.
jordan holmes
I appreciate a legend being subsumed by such banality.
The king who brought all of Britain together and pulled the sword from the stone inspired me to build a blog.
I appreciate that.
I like it.
dan friesen
It makes me wonder if she views, like, Mark Richards as, like, Galahad.
jordan holmes
Who's Lancelot in her world?
dan friesen
That's probably Simon Parks.
I would love to see what the round table is in your conception.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what, guy with a telescope, he's there.
dan friesen
Oh, yes, he is.
He's Gawain.
I think I'm out.
jordan holmes
The Green Knight, of course.
dan friesen
I think I'm out of knights.
Don't remember anymore.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So, Gary gets to talking about this demonetization thing that she did.
And, hey, man, she didn't do anything wrong.
kerry cassidy
This is completely bizarre because also my viewership, you know, is quite...
Large, as I say.
And it had even jumped in the last three months.
So I was making even more money in advertising.
jordan holmes
Lies work!
unidentified
This whole COVID thing struck.
dan friesen
Yeah.
kerry cassidy
But the bottom line is, two weeks ago, I was doing some research.
unidentified
They deleted...
kerry cassidy
David Icke's channel.
And then the same night they deleted, they demonetized me, they demonetized Miles Johnston.
And I don't know what other people they might have done the same thing to.
So they're basically clamping down.
They're doing a whole censorship thing.
And it's completely nonsensical.
Is it?
Because I don't have any videos that they had a problem with.
dan friesen
That's nonsense.
kerry cassidy
Did they not?
dan friesen
David, I get his channel taken down because he was saying that there isn't a virus.
He was saying that this is all fake.
And, you know, it is this interesting thing that a lot of conspiracy theories have just sort of been ignored.
Yeah.
unidentified
You know, and I think one of the one of the compelling reasons why this is so different in theory is that other conspiracy theories can lead you to radicalization that could lead you to take violent action.
dan friesen
But it's not really essentially dangerous.
Sure.
unidentified
Like talking about how the Illuminati is in control of the world and they put it.
dan friesen
put pyramids in music videos.
That's not...
jordan holmes
The Illuminati's not real, so it's fine.
dan friesen
It could lead you down a road that would end up with you wanting to hurt Jay-Z, maybe, But ultimately, it's also just kind of stupid.
jordan holmes
And Jay-Z can protect himself.
dan friesen
It's relatively harmless.
Whereas people like David Icke, spinning conspiracies about there not being a virus, could very easily lead you to take actions that end up putting yourself and others at risk directly.
And so I can see why you would take this more seriously and have a different approach to it.
Although it does hurt things that no one...
Like, it didn't do this in the past.
jordan holmes
No, when you see 200 people in a pool together, you're like...
That's David Icke's fault.
dan friesen
I don't know that's David Icke's fault.
I mean, if they're listening...
jordan holmes
Probably not individually.
dan friesen
If they're listening to that George Clinton song, then it is David Icke's fault.
jordan holmes
That could be.
dan friesen
David Icke, David Icke.
So, the bottom line here is that Carrie knows exactly what the fuck is going on.
unidentified
Of course she does.
dan friesen
She knows why there's demonetization.
And anybody who's acting honestly about this...
They wouldn't be behaving this way.
Trying to pretend like, I didn't do anything!
Like, alright, whatever.
So, this is pretty funny to me.
Shepard Ambulis is talking about how he's like...
YouTube owes him tens of thousands of dollars for back revenue or something.
jordan holmes
Back revenue, sure.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
I'm not going to chase that thread.
jordan holmes
They haven't paid revenue for about five years, so they owe him back revenue.
dan friesen
I'm not going to chase that thread down too much, mostly because something he says in this next clip that is just like, oh, you just don't know what you're doing.
shepard ambellas
A weird thing they did to me was I basically haven't used my channel in five, six, seven, eight years or something like that.
I got mad because they were basically...
Not ever letting me monetize it, even though they never really said anything about it.
jordan holmes
I threw a fit.
shepard ambellas
I didn't figure it out.
I don't know.
But I stopped kind of using the platform and I was just doing my website and all that.
So I recently come back and I start this podcast up and it's kind of going, you know, and it's, I mean, it's only getting thousands of views or whatever, but it's starting to pick up.
And then all of a sudden.
I get a notice that six videos got copyright strikes.
dan friesen
Is he saying that's a conspiracy?
jordan holmes
I feel like he's just explaining what's going on.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In a very simple and direct way.
dan friesen
There's nothing nefarious about any of this.
He's saying that I got mad at YouTube because they weren't letting me monetize things.
But they never said it, and maybe I just couldn't figure out how to do it.
I think maybe you couldn't figure out how to do it.
I think that might be the more likely scenario.
jordan holmes
I put the first Avengers movie on YouTube, and they wouldn't let me monetize it.
And then about six years, ten years later, I put Avengers Endgame on YouTube, and they wouldn't let me monetize it.
I don't understand why.
dan friesen
The other thing, too, is those copyright strikes do happen.
Sometimes it's wild.
We've posted a couple of our episodes on YouTube, and we've gotten copyright strikes on all of them, pretty much.
And it's not because of Alex.
It's because of the music Alex uses in and out of commercial breaks.
So I wouldn't monetize the videos anyway.
I don't have any interest in that.
I don't think we could make anything even if we wanted to.
But we couldn't do it because whoever owns the rights to Silver Stallion...
Or some Highwaymen song won't allow monetization because their copyrighted work is in there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
So I wouldn't be too surprised if it was something along those lines.
Even if it is like Shepard using footage from news broadcasts that he doesn't have the rights to.
Stuff like that could easily get you a copyright strike.
That doesn't mean your shit gets taken down.
It just means that if you try to monetize it, they get a cut.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Whoever owns the copyright of the material that you're using.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
I just don't...
I think these people are acting like big babies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I assume he opens every show with a horse with no name.
And they're notorious for being copyright.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's long, too.
Takes up most of the show.
So, Carrie's trying to...
At this point, I don't think that she has decided on going with the subscription model.
And she's still trying to figure out what she's going to do about the demonetization.
Sure.
And Shepard has a dumb idea.
shepard ambellas
What about just having your own products?
Like Snoop Dogg does a show and he has like sneakers sitting on his desk because he sells the sponsor slots and stuff like that.
kerry cassidy
Yeah, that's a good question.
I mean, we are just actually creating Chemlock products right now on Zazzle.
We have a page.
jordan holmes
We got Zinc, baby!
kerry cassidy
We're about to.
So, yeah.
But that's not going to...
Pay the rent.
shepard ambellas
I know.
It's tough, and this is what they're doing to everyone.
They don't want this information out.
I guess the New World Order is basically finally here with this whole COVID thing.
It's the invisible enemy, really, and they can use it to their advantage.
dan friesen
I think one of the flaws of Shepard's plan that he's proposing is no one would pay for advertising.
I don't think she'd be able to sell any ads to a shoe company.
There's a slight difference in relative credibility and popularity between herself and Snoop Dogg.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying, she could sell some random pants.
I think she could do it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think she could sell a lot of random pants.
dan friesen
She could tell us about the home game Gorilla.
And where to hide your guns.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She could totally tell us where to hide your guns.
unidentified
Space.
dan friesen
Uh-huh, definitely.
Done.
I will say, though, I like to imagine that she's the same level of relevant as Snoop Dogg, and that when they did the All Cities remix of Welcome to Atlanta, they would get her to do the verse for California.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
That would be great.
Talking about Carrie Cassidy out there telling you about the LBC.
jordan holmes
If she moves to Atlanta, we know exactly what's about to happen.
And that's that she's going to drop an LP that's going to blow our minds.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, in this next clip, Shepard, I think he's fishing for a booking here, I think, in this next clip.
And Carrie's response is interesting.
shepard ambellas
You were talking about vortexes earlier.
I had a really interesting experience in Sedona with what I think was a vortex I could tell you about sometime.
Also, I've had three very close encounters with UFOs, and one was at dusk to the point to where I saw all the metal on the ship and the whole nine yards.
jordan holmes
There was four.
unidentified
So if you get bored one day and want me on the show, you can have me on.
Okay.
But, yeah, I love that kind of stuff.
kerry cassidy
Yeah, I mean, that's fine.
dan friesen
That's not how you want it.
That's not...
Generally, I remember back when I would do stand-up and I'd try and get on someone's show.
Like, hey, I got a good five.
jordan holmes
You know, I've done a few shows.
You know, I got CYSK a few months ago.
dan friesen
Whenever the response is...
Yeah, that's alright.
jordan holmes
You know what you should do?
Send me an email.
dan friesen
That response is not enthused.
Not an enthused response from Carrie.
jordan holmes
I've had a lot of experiences that would go great on your show.
dan friesen
Hey, I gotta go.
jordan holmes
Oh, you know what?
That's great.
dan friesen
I promise you we will revisit this.
No, it's great.
jordan holmes
No, no, it's fine.
I don't want to impose.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Carrie discusses her research.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Into COVID-19.
Sure.
She has some bombshells here that, I mean, I don't know, if she wasn't demonetized.
jordan holmes
David, I started it.
dan friesen
This might actually hurt her monetization chances.
kerry cassidy
What I can tell you is that my research says that this is a gray ET, you know, AI that has basically been created in a lab in Wuhan.
jordan holmes
Oh, the Guardian said that.
kerry cassidy
And it started Fort Detrick.
They've been creating a bioweapon there.
Then it went from there to North Carolina.
jordan holmes
Heard that from Vice.
kerry cassidy
A Chinese woman, whose name I don't have in front of me, took it to the lab in Wuhan and added the bat DNA.
jordan holmes
That's from the Times, Picayune.
kerry cassidy
Another animal, so it was more conducive, covered it with a protein sheet.
And basically then...
shepard ambellas
Yeah, that's what I'm kind of trying to pick your brain because I'm trying to...
What I came up with is all this stuff starting to tie together and it's really suspicious.
dan friesen
I don't know if it's all tying together as much as you're tying things together.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
All of this is tying together.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's all coming together.
jordan holmes
How is it tying together?
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
Think of a way that it's tying together.
dan friesen
Well, you've got aliens now in the mix.
You've got biological weaponry.
jordan holmes
They are in play.
dan friesen
You've got evil scientists.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It is all coming together.
jordan holmes
That is the progression that I was looking for.
dan friesen
I mean, I don't know how necessarily dangerous...
I would say that David Icke's outright denialism is more dangerous from just a what kind of behaviors could it endorse in people's standpoint.
But Carrie is like, this is alien AI.
Maybe less dangerous, but I would still say that's past the line.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, it's just unfortunate for her that they noticed, quite frankly.
That's really the only thing that's going on here.
jordan holmes
This gets right back to our, the grift is perfect if you stay in that sweet spot.
If you get too big, the grift fails.
And if you're not big enough, the grift fails.
You have to stay in there.
dan friesen
But it's almost the same dynamic just generally with celebrity.
You know, like, you want to be in the middle.
You don't want to be so popular that people start to treat you with, like, you know, people saying that Tom Hanks eats children.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Like, there's a real hassle and a danger to being that level of famous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Whereas, like, you're in the middle, you're a character actor, you get steady work, you're in a hundred million movies.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And people don't know who you are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That's the goal, I guess.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the goal for the grift, too.
Stay in the middle.
jordan holmes
I want a nice condo.
The end.
dan friesen
You want the Goldilocks zone of propaganda and fraud.
That's what you gotta do.
So Shepard sort of is implying that maybe there's space stuff involved with coronavirus, but it's unclear.
And so Kerry seems to think that he thinks that COVID-19 came from space, which he doesn't really.
kerry cassidy
This technology, this ET technology that's embedded in the Earth in certain very key places that actually was put there many, many years ago, eons ago, to shoot down incoming asteroids.
Because this has been long, again, a method of war.
jordan holmes
We talking right?
unidentified
There's reason to believe, of course, that Atlantis was sunk.
kerry cassidy
Atlantis was sunk in pieces, but one of the main ways it was sunk was through...
An asteroid hitting it.
unidentified
Sure.
kerry cassidy
And so on.
So this is what goes on.
Now, I know that it sounds as though you're trying to say that COVID came in on a meteor, but I don't.
shepard ambellas
Well, no, not really.
Although I did do some research and stuff like that is possible and when comets come around.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Are we talking about the Encovita strain?
dan friesen
Is that what we're doing?
That's deep research.
What they're doing here is a big focus of their conversation is about near-Earth objects.
There's been a barrage of them.
And Carey's belief about this is that whenever there's meteors or comets, they're actually projectiles from an interstellar war that's going on.
Of course, of course.
unidentified
That's why they come back every 70-some years.
jordan holmes
That's the plan.
dan friesen
That's the cycle of war.
jordan holmes
The cycle of war.
dan friesen
I like it.
jordan holmes
I'm going to be real bummed in 2040 when we fight the Vietnam War again.
dan friesen
Yeah, that'll be a real bummer.
Pretty sad.
So, yeah, that's their idea.
Carrie is espousing an idea that meteors and comets and near-earth objects are generally a means of attack from aliens.
And she wants to clarify, and so does Shepard, that they're not saying...
The coronavirus is from space.
jordan holmes
That's really nice of that.
dan friesen
I appreciate that.
jordan holmes
That's really nice of that.
dan friesen
Yes.
So there's all these rules, man.
You know, people have to wear, you know, you're supposed to wear masks in stores.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know.
jordan holmes
I'm sure they're pro those rules, right?
dan friesen
Well, hey, man, there's all kinds of rules.
Like, if you go to the beach, there's some rules you gotta follow.
jordan holmes
All right, where's this going?
dan friesen
But you know what?
Sometimes people at beaches don't follow rules.
And those, my friend, are the cool beaches.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
kerry cassidy
Let's say most semi-intelligent governors are opening up their states and people are.
I mean, they even opened up the beaches in Southern California.
unidentified
Supposedly can't lay on them, which is complete nonsense.
kerry cassidy
But nonetheless, and people are ignoring those stupid rules anyway, but at least on the cool beaches.
Ha ha!
unidentified
Cool beaches!
jordan holmes
I don't think...
Fonzie should be leading the coronavirus response, Dan.
dan friesen
I really want just an enumeration of which beaches are cool, according to Carrie, and which are not.
I need to know the relative coolness of California beaches.
jordan holmes
Fonzie bangs some sand and COVID-19 disappears.
I think that's the plan.
dan friesen
Cool beach.
jordan holmes
Cool beaches, bro.
dan friesen
So, Carrie, we know that she's known to talk to weirdos.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Eddie Page, the racist Pleiadian.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
unidentified
The aforementioned guy with telescope.
dan friesen
There's the guy with the telescope.
There's the guy...
Who made a movie.
I don't remember his name.
jordan holmes
Don't worry about it.
You don't need to worry about it.
dan friesen
There's the super soldiers who are weird.
jordan holmes
There's both the guy who can channel people but doesn't need to voice.
Does not need to do a fake voice.
But also not the guy who can channel people but does not need to do a fake voice.
dan friesen
All sorts of folks.
There's Mark Richards, the murderer.
jordan holmes
Top of the line.
dan friesen
Space captain murderer.
Simon Parks, the former MP.
Who has sex with aliens.
jordan holmes
I still like him.
I still think he's a good guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know about that.
So, it's a wacky bunch.
jordan holmes
She's got a cast of characters.
dan friesen
It's a bunch of weirdos.
But it turns out she has some other more credible sources.
kerry cassidy
Now, I can't say this is for sure, but I can tell you that I have direct contact with so-called white hats who have contact with the Trump team.
unidentified
And the Q team, if you will.
jordan holmes
The Q team.
unidentified
The sort of fly thing that just flew in.
kerry cassidy
Anyway.
dan friesen
There was a fly thing that flew in.
jordan holmes
It can just be a fly!
I feel like we're dealing with Freud here.
Sometimes a fly is just a fly.
dan friesen
No, man.
It's the secret space program trying to monitor.
kerry cassidy
And I can tell you that Trump's latest statements about how he's rolling out this, what did he call it?
jordan holmes
God, she's great on tech.
kerry cassidy
Rapid fire virus.
I think that's him.
jordan holmes
They're all great on tech.
kerry cassidy
I forget.
But it's like, in other words, he is trying in a race with Gates, who is working with, Gates is working with DARPA.
dan friesen
Sure.
kerry cassidy
And Department of Defense.
Now, how does that work?
unidentified
Right.
kerry cassidy
I thought government.
It's in charge of the Department of Defense.
dan friesen
It is.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
And suddenly, Gates is trying to one-up Trump.
shepard ambellas
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What does that even mean?
kerry cassidy
In getting a virus.
I mean, not a virus.
A vaccine.
dan friesen
So, if you're following here, we got Carrie saying that she has people that she's in direct contact with who are involved with Trump's team and the Q team.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Because, of course, Carrie's a big Q and odd person.
jordan holmes
Those are totally real.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Very much.
And they are telling her.
That Trump saying that we're going to try and fast track a vaccine is really just him trying to race Bill Gates because Bill Gates is going to make an evil vaccine or Trump is going to make a good vaccine.
jordan holmes
I really don't like this angle.
dan friesen
It's so stupid.
jordan holmes
I just wish everybody could hate Bill Gates for the same reason I hate Bill Gates, which is purely he has too much money.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Let's take his money away.
dan friesen
Plenty of valid criticisms.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And some of them have to do with his money.
Some have to do with philanthropic stuff.
There are some questions.
jordan holmes
Let's just get rid of his money and then we're all fine.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous the way these people are doing this.
But you know what?
I actually think that this is kind of a positive.
And what I see that as...
And it maybe has a buried negative within it, but it feels like it's their way of sort of psychologically dealing with the inevitability of needing a vaccine about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a really good point.
dan friesen
Yeah, coming up with this storyline where Trump made a good one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
If that's what leads them to get vaccinated, whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, at least if you accept the vaccine, fine, I will let you get there how you get there.
dan friesen
I think that, like I said, there's a very bad thing in it, though, too, which is, like, it could further get people down into the only Trump can save us kind of mentality, which is bad, but ultimately in a public health crisis, if that's how you're getting a vaccine, if that's the story you tell yourself, whatever.
jordan holmes
Like, a vaccine is going to come and they're not going to give Trump credit for it, right?
Like, there's no way they don't say, well, it's because Trump did blah.
dan friesen
Most likely.
jordan holmes
The end, you know?
dan friesen
Yep.
So, but you see these things that Trump's doing, like signaling that he's okay with vaccines and stuff.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought it was being racist.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Referencing the protocols of the elders of Zion in, like, Henry Ford level, like, I like Hitler, like that kind of stuff.
dan friesen
Well, there's those things, but we don't talk about that.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, good call.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That stuff, that's fake news.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Or something.
No, it's important for weirdos like Kerry and Alex.
To talk about the stuff, like, when Trump says, hey, we're doing this stuff with the vaccines, because they're so against vaccines that they have to figure out how to make it okay, because otherwise it should be a thing where it's like, fuck Trump, we're out of this.
And the way that you can do this is by saying that he's...
jordan holmes
There's a competitive vaccine.
dan friesen
Well, there's that.
jordan holmes
That's the only...
dan friesen
And you have to turn it into, like, it's the art of war 4D chess thing.
unidentified
People don't understand how Trump operates and how the team operates.
kerry cassidy
But what they're doing is, you know, I've done a few videos on this, but they're using this idea of game, you know, the state of the game and what we call art of war.
They're trying to sort of merge with and not appear to be against what they are actually working against.
And so they're going along, if you could say, on a parallel track to the enemy, up until a certain point when they intend to basically overtake them and take control.
dan friesen
Or they're not.
You know?
That's also a possibility.
jordan holmes
How is it that that hurts my brain more than theirs?
dan friesen
Oh, well, because it's a fantasy story they're telling themselves.
jordan holmes
Like, the level of cognitive dissonance there makes my brain, like, explode with, I need, like, 10 Tylenol.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And they're just like, well, obviously.
dan friesen
Obviously.
jordan holmes
After 10 million, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's the same thing with the Q stuff that constantly never happens.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, we're going down this road and then there's going to be a hard right turn.
Right, right, right.
Return never comes.
And it's just another...
This is just that mentality.
Good luck.
Good luck, guys.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
So we have this last clip here.
It's a little bit of a shorter interview because there's really not a whole lot going on.
jordan holmes
No, so far she has dropped some bombs of interesting information.
dan friesen
Cool beaches.
unidentified
um Oh, you know, Ogre is telling you you're a bunch of nerds for opening up your beaches.
dan friesen
Cool beaches and I love the King Arthur or something.
Arthurian legend is real.
But in this last clip we see a demonstration of something that really confuses me.
I'm not actually certain whether these people are joking or not.
jordan holmes
Merlin aged...
Backwards.
Now, I know that's not...
See, that's the thing that a lot of people get stuck on.
You know, you read the F. Scott Fitzgerald Benjamin Button.
That's bullshit.
He couldn't do any magic.
What's the point?
dan friesen
That is a good point.
Next.
So, I need you to help me try and get to the bottom of if they're joking.
Do you think that they're joking?
jordan holmes
I am underprepared.
kerry cassidy
Drilling outside all of a sudden.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
kerry cassidy
I'm going to have to shut the door.
shepard ambellas
That's alright.
Go ahead.
unidentified
No, it's typical deep state.
Of all things.
shepard ambellas
Yeah, no, that happens to me.
They start mowing lawns and, you know, helicopters start hovering over the house.
dan friesen
Do you think they're joking?
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
I can't tell because he's laughing.
Shepard's laughing.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
I can't tell if they really think that some drilling and some construction that's going on or some neighbor mowing a lawn is a deep state attack when you're trying to record something.
That to me is, if they're not joking, that's fucking scary.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That level of paranoia is really, really weird.
jordan holmes
What I hear is like when I make a joke about something that's actually happening in my life.
You know, like, I make a joke where it's like, this person did this.
And here's my commentary on that.
Not like...
Here's a fun, fanciful situation that I'm making up.
I'm not doing some Mike Wiley bullshit, alright?
I'm telling truth, Dan.
dan friesen
So you think that there's a certain amount of discomfort that is causing the laughter?
jordan holmes
Totally.
They are absolutely telling the truth on what they believe is happening.
dan friesen
That's gotta be a frustrating way to live.
jordan holmes
Isn't it hilarious?
How they're doing this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Not, isn't it hilarious that they're doing this, or isn't it hilarious if they were doing this?
It's hilarious that the evil people are using a lawnmower and not a fucking laser beam.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I guess it does sort of fit in line with things like Gary thinking there's, like, tech problems or attack from the globalists of the New World Order.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean, that's real trouble.
It's real scary.
Although, you know, I mean, I could just say that my window leaking was a patriot attack.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what it was!
dan friesen
Yeah, how fun is that?
jordan holmes
Did you not notice that?
dan friesen
How fun is that?
jordan holmes
Did you not notice that?
dan friesen
That must be what's going on.
jordan holmes
There was an American flag in water dripping from your windows.
dan friesen
I did notice.
This is weird.
I did notice the next day.
I walked outside, I looked up at my window, and there was a don't tread on me flag.
I thought that was weird, but I thought it was a coincidence.
jordan holmes
Well, you were wrong.
Do you know how many states were on that fake American water flag?
dan friesen
How many?
jordan holmes
37. That's how many they accept.
dan friesen
That seems like a really unsatisfying and frustrating way to look at things.
Everything is an attack.
Everything must be coordinated in some way.
It's just oof.
But, anyway, that brings us to the end of this.
jordan holmes
What I find strange about that is that the paranoia is so severe and yet is treated mockingly.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I believe that they believe that they are under attack, but the implications of their attack is so massive and so huge that it seems ridiculous to treat it as like, oh, man.
Don't you see how weird it is that this global interstellar fucking cabal of monsters combined with aliens is using lawnmowers?
Like, do you not understand how much more terrifying it is that they use lawnmowers?
dan friesen
See, I don't think that that's what he's laughing about.
jordan holmes
I don't think so either.
dan friesen
I think your analysis is very interesting, and there is a farce to it.
I don't know.
It's unsettling to me.
But, if this is the end, then this is the end for Gary.
This is the end, my friend.
It's kind of a fitting end, because one, it's boring.
And ultimately, that's something...
That everyone needs to know is that Carrie is very boring.
Yes.
unidentified
This show is incredibly boring, except for the parts that I end up finding to discuss.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Second, the reason that this is kind of a fitting close coda to Carrie is that she's being interviewed by somebody who is an InfoWars associate.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Or someone who is actually a guest pretty regularly on Alex's show and someone who Alex wanted to fucking hire.
Yeah.
unidentified
So you'd see these two important pieces.
dan friesen
She's boring, and this is Pretty much become, at this point, very similar.
Her space of the secret space program weirdo alien shit is more or less normal right-wing stuff now.
jordan holmes
Their Venn diagram has no further non-connection points.
It's all one big perfect circle.
dan friesen
It feels like it's becoming more and more that.
Maybe we don't need her anymore.
jordan holmes
I think she's done.
dan friesen
Well, good luck on your subscription service.
jordan holmes
I wish you, I guess, the worst, Kerry?
I don't know what else to say.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Good luck.
It'll be what it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But we'll be back, Jordan, with another episode.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
In a couple days.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bet Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
And if you would like to download it, I just do a review.
And if you would like, please donate to a local charity in your area.
We would appreciate that very much.
dan friesen
Yes.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am the lifeguard at the cool beach.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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