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May 22, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#435: May 18-21, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan regroup and discuss the bizarre week that was on the Alex Jones Show.  In this installment, Alex discusses being too drunk to meet with the Secret Service at the RNC, tries to make Joe Rogan's Spotify contract about himself, and lets two dullards fill in for him. Also, Dan becomes drunk with power after uncovering a few new drops. 

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
21:39
d
dan friesen
01:08:58
j
jordan holmes
23:19
Appearances
h
harrison smith
03:32
Clips
d
dan lyman
00:06
g
greg reese
00:59
l
larry klayman
00:02
m
mike adams
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Jordan.
Quick question.
What's your bright spot for today?
dan friesen
Well, actually, the other night, I got together with a couple of old buddies on Zoom.
jordan holmes
Oh, did you?
dan friesen
And played some games.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's cool.
dan friesen
Yeah, I hadn't been, I hadn't tried out the whole Zoom thing yet because I have no reason for like meetings or anything.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
And yeah, so me and Riggs and Hogan and Fernandez, some old running buddies from the comedy days got together and played some code names.
jordan holmes
That's really cool.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's super fun.
jordan holmes
I'm really glad you did that.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was a great time.
I hope to do a bit more of that in the future because it's just a bunch of just making fun of each other.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And talking shit.
unidentified
A bunch of yahoos.
dan friesen
Playing a fun game.
Code names is really fun.
Have you ever played that?
jordan holmes
No, I've never played Codenames.
dan friesen
It's like this, there's a grid of tiles on a board.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And each of them has a word on them, right?
And so one, you play in pairs.
One person is the spymaster, the other person is the player.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And the spymaster gets to see which are his teams.
There's blue and red teams.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And you get to see which things you have to try and get the other person to guess.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But you want to try and get more than one of them in a turn.
So you'll have rock and bird.
And you have to try and find a word that will trigger that in the other person's mind.
Try and get them to guess both.
Or even you can go for three if you're really ambitious.
jordan holmes
So you quite literally need to kill two birds with one stone.
dan friesen
Yes.
It's really fun because it's like, what are you thinking?
It introduces so many, like, arguments.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
What were you going for?
jordan holmes
It's one of those, like, taboo a little bit.
Like, that kind of a word association game.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
dan friesen
That's fun.
I was paired with Hogan, and his first clue was Yellowstone.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he was trying to get me to guess Stream and Hawk.
jordan holmes
Okay!
All right.
All right.
dan friesen
That's a little bit...
jordan holmes
That one's...
dan friesen
It's ambitious.
jordan holmes
That's oblique.
I would say that's a little bit outside.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was a good time.
Good times were had by all.
jordan holmes
That sounds great.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm glad to hear it.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is rediscovering my love for the band Kings of Convenience.
dan friesen
Never heard of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're a Scandinavian Simon and Garfunkel from the early 2000s.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Sounds interesting.
I re-listened to a little bit of their music and I remembered whenever I was 17...
My friends and I all drove to Detroit because the only place where we could see them was a run-down pool hall.
That didn't card.
dan friesen
On the way there, did you hit top speed?
Because you know you're going to die?
jordan holmes
No, we did not hit top speed.
dan friesen
We hit 65. Was the radio the only light on the way there?
jordan holmes
Well, it was a very old pickup truck.
dan friesen
When you got to the show, did first you drink, then you smoke?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
First we smoked, and then we drank in the car.
But we had a designated driver.
You do know what you're referencing, right?
I do know what you're referencing.
For fuck's sake, come on.
dan friesen
Of course, for those who are not aware, I'm referencing the Mighty Mighty Boss Tones cover of the Kiss song.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Get up!
But yeah, that was such a fun show because, again, they're Simon and Garfunkel, so it's just the two guys playing with acoustic guitars.
And then at the end of the show, one of the members is Erland Oye, who's actually a producer and DJ in his own right.
And they have one dance song, and they brought somebody up from the crowd.
There was like 40 people there.
To play one note on the bass over and over and over again, and then we just all had a giant dance party on the stage.
dan friesen
That's fun.
jordan holmes
It was incredible.
It was a great time.
dan friesen
It sounds a bit like the experience we had at an Andrew WK show once.
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
The dance party all on stage.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's so fun.
dan friesen
Kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Makes you feel like part of things.
Yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
Speaking of being part of things, Jordan, we're part of a podcast that we're about to record.
jordan holmes
That's a great transition.
We haven't seen a transition that great in a while.
dan friesen
That was not great.
So I want to, before we get down to business, I want to explain our lost episode on Wednesday, which is not really a lost episode.
There was no episode.
And the reason is because on Sunday, I want to explain this because I've gotten a lot of messages from people who are like, I hope you guys are okay.
We're totally fine.
Yeah.
unidentified
The situation was on Sunday, last Sunday, I guess it's this Sunday, I don't know the fucking time to say it.
jordan holmes
Don't worry about it.
Time is in a flat circle.
dan friesen
On Sunday, you and I were recording a Q&A episode, and we noticed that there was water coming in the window of my apartment.
jordan holmes
Coming in hard.
dan friesen
Yes.
And I'm not in a garden unit.
jordan holmes
Nuh-uh.
dan friesen
So we found that to be troubling.
And it turns out it's also not the first time this has happened.
This happened a couple months ago, and the landlords and building managers said that they had fixed it with some tuck-pointing work or whatever outside.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It turns out that it's not the case.
That it was not fixed.
And so there was water coming in.
I called and emailed my building manager, and they had sent over some people to take a look at it.
And if you look up there, they ended up having to take off the bar that's over my windows.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It looks beautiful.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
As part of dealing with the situation, they had to put in these industrial dehumidifiers in my room that we record in.
It is in the studio, and they're super loud.
There was just no way around.
Taking care of this problem in the way that the building insisted we do it and still record and get the episode ready and all that.
It was just impossible.
And so unfortunately we were unable to do that.
But it's resolved now and after some real drama with a lot of double talk from folks.
I am getting out of this apartment.
I am leaving this damn apartment.
I don't know.
Maybe I have really bizarre expectations, but I expect good communication from landlords, and I also expect...
Third floor apartments not to flood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's usually a good expectation.
dan friesen
So that is the situation.
But it's been a horrible week for me in terms of frustration and feeling out of the loop about my own living space.
It's just awful.
But there's actually a hidden bright spot in it.
And that is that last night, as the machines were blaring...
And everything was awful.
I had been told that they were coming to take out the machines yesterday, and they didn't.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
And no one told me until like five in the afternoon that no one was coming.
It was fucking awful.
jordan holmes
What are we going to tell you?
dan friesen
Right.
So last night, so loud in my apartment, it's awful.
I think they're coming today, the next day, to take out the machines, but now I don't know.
I don't trust anybody.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And I'm sitting down, and I'm like, I just got to work in case we're able to record.
I got to get this all together.
And I was sitting there, miserable, and I was like, I love doing this show.
Like, in that awful moment, I had a moment of clarity of like, this is so fun, I'm preparing this stuff.
Like, there was a stripping away of some of the, like, the shit.
And I felt really grateful to be doing this and thankful for the people who make it possible.
unidentified
That's awesome.
dan friesen
And people who listen and...
It was great.
In that dark moment, the fact that it's like, well, I'm preparing to do a show I really enjoy doing, and there's some really funny stuff that we're going to be able to talk about, and people enjoy it.
Pierced through the misery.
jordan holmes
Yeah, adversity can help provide clarity at times.
Perhaps that's the only way to get clarity.
dan friesen
There's no atheists in foxholes, and there's no ungrateful people with giant dehumidifiers in their room.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That's fair.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, in that spirit, let's take a moment to say thank you to the folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So, first, we got Dave.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Dave.
dan friesen
Thank you, Dave.
Next, I don't know if this is Benoit or Benoit.
I'm not sure.
I don't know why it would be Benoit.
Is that an actual name?
jordan holmes
I've never heard that before.
dan friesen
Probably Benoit.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Benoit Balls.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Next, Anna Kidd.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Anakin.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
And this next one, I actually bumped up.
It's very recent, but I put it to the front of the list because of a parenthetical in it.
jordan holmes
It's time-sensitive.
dan friesen
Yes.
Thank you so much.
Call Terry Nichols.
And then in parentheses, if this comes out too far from the Bill Cooper episode, it won't be funny.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Call Terry Nichols.
If this comes out too far from the Bill Cooper episode, it won't be funny.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
That's an accurate point you made.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Essa.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Essa.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Next, Nahal?
Nahal, I believe.
N-J-A-L.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Nahal.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
And Lisa.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Lisa!
dan friesen
And finally, I gotta give a very special shout-out to somebody who's sporting on a level just unfathomably supportive and generous, and we appreciate their support so very much that I feel we need to install them into the realm of the raptor princesses.
jordan holmes
Oh, we got a new raptor princess?
unidentified
Indeed.
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
So thank you so very much, Anthony H., you are now a raptor princess.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Sports start.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
alex jones
I'll barbecue your ass.
mike adams
It's over for humanity.
alex jones
You're a beautiful soul.
They're coming for your balls.
Well, I piss all over you, God.
Very few people cramp in the pool unless they're babies.
I piss all over the state.
larry klayman
Make it a practice of calling people pieces of garbage.
unidentified
When they are.
Comet as you see fit.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Anthony H. We appreciate it very much.
Yes, thank you very much, Anthony H. If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
We would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
Yes, it would be very helpful.
dan friesen
Or if you'd like to take that generosity and send it to a local charity in your area that helps people who are in need, that would be wonderful as well.
jordan holmes
We would appreciate that also.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we are going over the May 18th through 21st episodes of The Alex Jones Show.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
But it's a little bit of a misnomer.
jordan holmes
It's a little Mark Dicey?
dan friesen
Alex kind of disappears a whole bunch.
Okay, well that's fair.
Most of these shows are incomplete in terms of Alex's attendance record.
He's a truant.
So here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
You're not sticking your metal penis in me!
dan friesen
So this is how he's contextualizing vaccines now.
jordan holmes
I think that's great.
I think you should...
Wait, what?
That's a vaccine?
No, never mind.
dan friesen
Vaccine is a metal penis that Bill Gates and Alan Dershowitz want to stick in here.
jordan holmes
All right, well, that's evocative.
dan friesen
Yes.
So here is how Alex starts off the show on May 18th.
And I should be honest, this is a preoccupation for most of the episode.
It goes on quite a bit.
This seems to be one of his biggest concerns.
alex jones
We've blown it up.
We're going to show you some shots of that coming up in the last segment of this hour.
And it is an upside-down cross, clear as day, with a ring of rubies around it, like a corona.
And I actually said, you know, I've seen that symbol before.
And I went and did some research, and I sent it over to the producer this morning.
But that producer is off today, so I didn't see it in my full stack, but I'm going to resend it to a new producer.
And I'm going to show you actually where that symbol comes from.
I said, where have I seen?
An upside down cross with a red corona around it.
And where I thought I'd seen it, I'd seen it.
Very horrible sign.
jordan holmes
The Da Vinci Code?
alex jones
The death of the sun.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So apparently Melinda Gates, about a week prior, had been on Good Morning America or something, and she was wearing an upside-down cross, and Alex is really pissed off about it.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course.
dan friesen
This is part of a really interesting symbology lecture that Alex thinks he's doing on this episode.
jordan holmes
Okay, sure.
dan friesen
It's going to go off the rails in a number of directions.
jordan holmes
He's taking us into Umberto Echo territory.
That's what we're dealing with.
Okay, all right, all right.
dan friesen
So, Alex...
You know, he's seen this picture of Melinda Gates with his jewelry.
Right.
Fuck her.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
But it's not just Alex saying that.
He's read The Room.
alex jones
There is a firestorm of galactic proportions going on, of truly colossal proportions, gigantor proportions, that every video about Bill Gates on YouTube is 99%, if not 100%, I read probably 300 comments this morning about his wife on a Today program where she's wearing the upside-down cross, and I could not find one person supporting her.
dan friesen
Who cares?
Why are you spending your time reading YouTube comments?
jordan holmes
Do I need to support her?
Does anyone need to support her?
dan friesen
I don't care.
jordan holmes
Why would I?
dan friesen
But also, what does he think of me?
Like, YouTube comments mean anything?
jordan holmes
I mean, they're very mean towards me, so...
dan friesen
They're generally not a good indication of consensus opinion, but...
I mean, if that's the kind of journalistic level he wants to bring to this, great.
jordan holmes
All right, so...
dan friesen
YouTube comments.
jordan holmes
Galactic importance.
So, across the Milky Way.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Across every...
Man.
This upside-down cross.
Is it actually an upside-down cross?
dan friesen
We'll get to that.
jordan holmes
It's just jewelry, right?
dan friesen
We'll get to that.
jordan holmes
Is it an arrow pointing downward?
How does he feel about Flavor Flav's clock?
What are we doing here?
dan friesen
It's a symbol of entropy.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Doesn't the clock look like an upside-down cross sometimes?
dan friesen
But the clock is secretly going backwards.
So, yeah.
We'll get back to this, because like I said, he touches on this way too much.
It is a preoccupation and obsession.
jordan holmes
Weird.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
Weird.
dan friesen
So, in addition to complaining about jewelry, Alex has a new study that he's found that he wants to talk about that proves something or other about the coronavirus.
alex jones
Austrian study finds a sign of human intervention in coronavirus.
And that is an Infowars.com report that links to the mainline Australian news and university.
And they talk about the gain of function and the HIV delivery system added on to the coronavirus.
A study led by Nikoli Petrovinsky, a vaccine researcher at Flinders University.
The scientist and his team discovered that the coronavirus is optimized for penetration in human cells rather than animal cells, which means that the theory that it emerged from an animal market and jumped into humans is naturally unlikely.
dan friesen
First of all, Alex can't seem to remember if this is from Austria or Australia, which isn't good.
And so here's a couple of quotes from an article in The Week about this study.
Quote, the study observed a remarkable coincidence or a sign of human intervention in the creation of the virus.
So right there, the result of the study is that it could be a remarkable coincidence.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
This does not sound like proof of anything.
jordan holmes
I would argue that a global pandemic is also a remarkable coincidence.
dan friesen
Sure.
Here's another quote.
Quote, however, the study led by Nikolai Petrovsky, which Alex bungled, professor of medicine at Flinders University, has not yet been peer-reviewed and remains inconclusive.
jordan holmes
Well, there's a problem there.
dan friesen
It's another one of these.
Great.
I mean, I look forward to some of these conclusions being challenged and looked at in the peer review process, and then it'll be fun to have Alex ignore that and pretend that the globalists are pressuring them to retract it or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not going to stop.
dan friesen
This study is not definitive, even in the claims that Alex is pretending that it's making, and it's not been peer-reviewed yet, so let's pump the damn brakes.
Some of the stuff he's saying is just completely made up, like the stuff about this study involving his HIV narratives, which is nowhere in the study.
Also, just because it's fun, the researcher who led the study, Petrovsky, said in a statement, quote, So, the guy who authored the study said, because certain things are not present...
jordan holmes
That would point directly towards it not being human intervention.
dan friesen
Well, the lack of presence of these artificial inserts lead people to believe that it's not the result of human manipulation.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now, the problem with that is that earlier on this very episode, Alex was rambling about inserts.
jordan holmes
It does kind of seem like that.
dan friesen
Oh, you can see the scars on the DNA.
Everybody can see it.
jordan holmes
Scars on the DNA.
unidentified
I don't fucking know.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's how Alex puts it.
So you have this guy, this Nikolai Petrovsky, who put out this study, who is very explicitly saying that there is not signs of artificial inserts, which contradicts Alex's other narrative.
So if he wants to choose one of these things to push, he's going to have to choose one or the other.
They're contradictory.
jordan holmes
Keanu Reeves said that chicks dig DNA scars, I believe.
That's what he said.
dan friesen
So this study is going to probably become a big piece of Alex's stuff.
And he's still pushing that Indian study that got retracted from way back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
And now Alex has just made up a story about Bill Gates being responsible for it getting retracted.
jordan holmes
Of course!
alex jones
Indian scientists discover coronavirus engineered with HIV's AIDS-like insertions.
unidentified
Indian scientists discover coronavirus.
alex jones
And the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation threatened their money, threatened India, who's, by the way, banned their foundation, but they still have money there, through front groups.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
And told them that you better withdraw that paper.
So they withdrew that paper.
jordan holmes
Better withdraw that paper.
alex jones
They withdrew that paper, but said we're not withdrawing it for cause, it's on hold.
While...
We challenge those challenging it to show us any proof.
No one's challenged it.
dan friesen
Alex is just making all of that up.
He is just making all of that up.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
That's so awesome.
jordan holmes
Get to the ATM and withdraw that paper, baby!
dan friesen
He is just like...
It's fascinating how much his mind just...
Allows himself to be like, oh, this is a thought I had.
jordan holmes
That sounds great.
dan friesen
That's proof of things.
jordan holmes
That's a good thought I had.
dan friesen
Fucking weirdo.
jordan holmes
Better tell people that's true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets to talking about some news that has been put out by the Health and Human Services Department.
And I think it's interesting how in this situation he sort of like, you know, covers half of it.
Half of the news.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
alex jones
And now the NIH has had to admit.
It's up on Infowars.com, Health and Human Services Secretary.
No coronavirus spikes in reopened areas, only closed areas.
dan friesen
So, it's all good and well for him to be reading this headline from Reuters, but I should also probably read you the first paragraph of the article.
jordan holmes
I don't see any need for a whole paragraph.
dan friesen
U.S. authorities are not yet seeing spikes in coronavirus cases in places that are reopening, but it was still too early to determine such trends, Health Secretary Alex Azar said on Sunday.
Given the progression of how the viruses seem to spread and given the fact that we're still not in a good place with on-demand testing, you wouldn't see a spike this quickly.
We're going to have to wait and see what happens down the road.
And for Alex to report the first part of the story while ignoring the part where Azar says it's too early to say anything definitive is journalistic malpractice.
That's lying.
jordan holmes
That's the part you don't want to talk about, though.
You don't want to say hold out for results of something.
Tell me what the truth is now!
dan friesen
That's lying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's definitely lying.
dan friesen
Thank you, Alex.
I appreciate it.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
I convinced him that he's like.
jordan holmes
You son of a bitch.
You're going to abuse that clip, aren't you?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Now I can't win any argument.
It's two to one every single time.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex talks about this lab in Seattle that the Gateses are running.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That the FDA shut down.
alex jones
A test, by the way, put up a bill in the gates that has all these false positives.
That's now been confirmed.
The FDA just shut down their big Seattle lab that's been putting out the fake test, and it was confirmed.
They were just completely fake.
Everyone is infected that has it.
dan friesen
So this is about, like, coronavirus tests all being positive.
Sure, sure.
So this is an interesting story, because it's one of those fun instances where Alex should be reporting this story in the complete opposite, based on everything he stands for.
There's no indication that this lab in Seattle was putting out tests that give 100% false positives or even any higher false positive rate than any other test.
It was heavily funded by Gates, though, so Alex gets a little pat on the head for not making that part up.
This was a lab at the University of Washington which was running a program called the Seattle Coronavirus Assessment Network.
Basically, what they did was send out tests to whoever wanted them, people swabbed themselves, and sent the sample back to be processed.
The reasoning was that many people who were sick were likely not sick enough to go to a doctor, and this would allow people to have a better sense of their situation.
The lab was told early on that they needed an emergency use authorization from the state in order to run a program like this where they would give test results to people who submit for testing.
In March, the state of Washington gave them approval, but now the FDA is saying they need federal approval as well.
I'm not sure where I land on this.
I assume there's probably some benefit to nationally coordinated responses which make the needing federal approval make sense.
I'm not sure I understand all the details, so I'm going to stop short of having a solid position.
However, Alex Jones is Mr. State's Rights.
He absolutely should not be into this lab being shut down by the federal government when the state government already approved what they're doing.
His beliefs and pretend principles are meaningless.
Anyway, Alex's spinelessness aside, this is just a temporary hold that the lab has until they can get some details ironed out about the authorization to release results to people.
Alex is completely making up details of the story to make it sound more nefarious because he's a liar.
Yeah.
It's really just about the clearance to give people results as opposed to like, oh, everything is positive.
It's all false positive.
Just making that shit up.
jordan holmes
People need to start realizing the situation here.
When the federal government is doing whatever they want and saying, okay, well then fucking sue me about it, now is not the time to pretend that you have to follow anybody's rules.
Tell them to fucking sue you.
That's kind of the situation.
At this point, crime is legal.
I'm advocating everyone commit every crime they can think of right now.
Maybe I shouldn't do that.
Is that a bad idea?
dan friesen
Why would that be?
That last clip was Alex trying desperately to demonize Bill Gates because that's what he does.
In his next clip, he does that kind of embarrassingly.
And it's also pretty funny.
alex jones
Oh, but, oh, the Crips are scary.
MS-13, oh, they do devil rituals and kill little kids sometimes.
dan friesen
I'd like to flash back to the months and months of coverage Alex was yelling about MS-13.
unidentified
It was a really big deal for him for a long time.
dan friesen
Trying to make everybody so scared of them.
alex jones
Oh, my.
They're the hardest dudes.
But Bill Gates is wearing a pink sweater.
And he acts effeminate.
That's all an act, ladies and gentlemen.
Behind the scenes, Bill Gates is literally hopping around like a gremlin.
I know people that know him.
He's going, get it!
That's work done now!
18 hours a day, he used to take everything over.
unidentified
He's just...
alex jones
They go, well, we got one of the most evil ones ever here.
He was a totally satanic demon by age 10, reportedly.
dan friesen
Reportedly.
I'd like to see the reporting on that.
unidentified
Who reported that?
jordan holmes
Is there an AP report on nine-year-old demon?
What are we going to do?
I don't know.
dan friesen
Ten-year-old Bill Gates, already a demonic, hopping around my head.
jordan holmes
Which was your favorite gremlin from Gremlins 2?
dan friesen
I don't remember.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with Spider Gremlin.
That one was my favorite one.
dan friesen
Sure.
Spider Leadership Gremlin.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
This is so ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
jordan holmes
Reportedly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Reportedly.
dan friesen
That's the part that makes it hilarious.
He's reportedly a Satanist by Ted.
jordan holmes
Reportedly.
dan friesen
Reportedly.
jordan holmes
What does that word even mean anymore?
dan friesen
I think on the one hand, you could look at it as a way to not get sued.
But then on the other hand, I think it's Alex trying to pretend there's some credible backing.
unidentified
Some source?
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
Who's doing nine-year-old surveys of whether or not people are demons yet?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a good job for us.
dan friesen
That's ridiculous.
So, you know, if you were a demon at nine, you would obviously grow up to marry someone who would wear an upside-down cross on TV.
jordan holmes
I would assume you were betrothed to them way before.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the only thing that makes sense.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talking more about this cross.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
Why would you throw an upside-down cross in people's face like that?
It's called lesser magic.
Is it?
The occultists believe that if you show it in a model first and show people and they don't understand what's happening, that you get even more power over them when you actually carry out the act.
dan friesen
So Alex spends a lot of time in this episode complaining about Melinda Gates wearing this upside-down cross necklace, which he's determined is satanic and lesser magic.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
In that clip, Alex asks why someone would wear an upside-down cross, so I figured I might help him understand that.
Maybe they're Catholic.
The upside-down cross is the symbol of St. Peter, who is the forefather of the Pope.
As the story goes, Peter was crucified upside-down because he was too humble to be killed in the same manner as Jesus.
And thus, the upside-down cross became his symbol, an important one for the Catholic Church.
There is no satanic root to the upside-down cross in real life.
That's just something from movies and imagery that's used by metal and punk bands.
The fact that Alex goes on and on about this and never once mentions the cross of St. Peter really leads me to believe that he has very little familiarity with Christianity.
I haven't been to church in years, and I know that stuff.
Legitimately, everything else he talks about comes from movies, so why shouldn't we be surprised to learn that a lot of these religious ideas do, too?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Also, in case you're curious, Melinda Gates is very public about her Catholic faith.
alex jones
Thank you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Alright, we're gonna have to end the show.
We're gonna have to end the show.
When this is going down.
dan friesen
Fuck you, this is the best.
jordan holmes
We're one step away from Morning Zoo Crew.
You've got a soundboard now.
Not quite.
dan friesen
I still need to get an actual soundboard as opposed to just scrolling around in iTunes.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So yeah, I mean, she's Catholic.
It's a symbol of the Catholic Church.
This is bullshit.
So this leads into Alex talking about other symbols.
Because he knows a lot about symbols.
jordan holmes
Are we really doing symbols?
dan friesen
You better believe we are.
alex jones
The peace symbol is at least a 10,000-year-old North symbol for death.
Now, by itself, it means death.
With a circle around it, it means total death.
unidentified
A ritual of death.
alex jones
A covenant of death.
They don't tell you that on WikiLeaks, though, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes
Why would they?
alex jones
Wikipedia, excuse me.
jordan holmes
Why would they?
alex jones
They don't tell you that this is a symbol of total death.
It's a tree that's dead.
And it's a circle.
It means complete.
The circle is now complete.
dan friesen
Okay.
The peace symbol was created by a Christian pacifist artist named Gerald Holtham back in 1958.
jordan holmes
10,000 years ago!
dan friesen
His inspiration for the symbol was twofold.
As discussed in a profile on him in the week, part of the inspiration was the naval semaphore flags.
The flag code for N and D combined to form the peace sign, which was meant to stand for nuclear disarmament.
The other part was, quote, I was in despair, deep despair.
I drew myself, the representative of an individual in despair with hands, palms outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya's peasant before the firing squad.
I formalized the drawing into a line and put a circle around it.
It was ridiculous at first and such a puny thing.
The symbol was adopted by the anti-war protesters and hippies and we all know where it went from there.
The most popular Norse symbol for death is the Valknut, which is three triangles intersecting, and it literally looks nothing like a peace sign.
Alex is probably thinking of Yggdrasil, which is the Norse symbol that involves a tree in a circle.
This does not symbolize death, however.
It symbolizes the connection of all things, and it's sometimes called the Tree of Life.
Also, it doesn't really look like a peace symbol.
Honestly, this is just kind of sad.
Alex is just making shit up, which is nothing new.
But he's being a stupid blowhard about symbology.
It's just the most pathetic direction to take your fake expertise in.
Even if you're right, you've not proven anything.
jordan holmes
Do you know the worst...
dan friesen
And he's not right.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
The worst one.
The worst one.
The most demonic one is when Kellogg's co-opted a 10,000-year-old symbol of Captain Crunch.
And that obviously symbolizes...
The destruction of one's upper mouth.
dan friesen
That was a Phoenician symbol, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That ruins your gums.
That's the main issue that I have with Captain Crunch.
dan friesen
There's an ancient Phoenician text that warns you against the cotton candy version of Captain Crunch, though.
jordan holmes
Don't try the Crunch Berries!
dan friesen
So we get to this next clip, and Alex, I mean, he's just got a lot of news to get to.
alex jones
There's a lot of news I want to get to here, and a lot of things I want to cover.
And we're going to be doing that.
jordan holmes
Are we?
Are we?
Buddy.
alex jones
I don't know, but we'll get to it.
jordan holmes
There we go.
alex jones
I have to go find the right clubs.
That's why I'm going to take off a few days this week, and I'm going to be up here working on this Bill Gates film I need to make, just so I can.
Get the clips on over there and just get the damn clips and just do it.
dan friesen
Super excited for this alleged Bill Gates documentary.
unidentified
Just gotta get the clips that are there and just do it.
dan friesen
We'll fucking see about that.
Look forward to our next Endgame episode coming out once Alex releases this documentary about Bill Gates he's never gonna release.
Very excited.
jordan holmes
I am going to spend the time on my show right now that I could be using to get the news out to you by just telling you that there will be a documentary that I am thinking about doing but have not done yet and probably won't ever do.
dan friesen
And I'm going to leave the show.
I've got to get out of here.
I've got to work on this documentary.
jordan holmes
I've got to find the clips that I don't know where they are and I can't find and I don't want to do this documentary.
dan friesen
You've got a great production staff going if you have this conversation so regularly on air.
jordan holmes
Has he tried CCing all of his producers?
dan friesen
Might help.
So, Alex needs, you know, he needs to get to this news, though.
You know, like, there's so much news.
jordan holmes
About the upside down cross.
dan friesen
Well, it turns out that the first piece of news is, like, about himself, because of course it is.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
There were a bunch of articles Thursday and Friday about myself and a Secret Service investigation, and I found it on Saturday.
No big deal.
unidentified
It's just that I have to remember every day to type my name in and then see what the stuff is.
alex jones
If not, my house could burn down.
I wouldn't know about it.
I mean, hell, a whole Austin could blow up.
You know, we wouldn't probably report on it.
That's just how it is.
And that's good because we're not pretentious globalists around here.
What?
unidentified
This was a pretty big story, and it ties into a bunch of stuff.
alex jones
So who knows?
I might get to that, and I might get to a couple other important.
What?
Okay, okay!
We had a big sale we ran last week.
dan friesen
All right.
This guy is a mess.
jordan holmes
Listen, I'm just not going to do my job.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm just not going to do it.
dan friesen
But I am going to do my real job, which is selling this fucking product.
jordan holmes
Well, I got to do my real job.
dan friesen
Right.
So Alex hinted there that he's going to take some time off.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so he gets back to that here in this next clip.
alex jones
This is so epic what's going on that...
I'm going to take some days off.
In fact, I was going to take off Wednesday.
I'm taking off tomorrow now.
I already told the crew.
It's because...
unidentified
Because what?
alex jones
I've got to go in for a pit stop.
I've got to go lay out in the sun.
I've got to go hike.
I've got to spend time with my children.
And I've got to lock my cell phone up and just not do any work.
In fact, I was going to come in and work on a Bill Gates film just because you can't drag me away.
But I'm not going to even do that now.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert.
He does not follow through with any of this.
unidentified
His earlier statement was, I'm going to not be here to work on that.
jordan holmes
And now he's not even going to work on that.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, I don't think any of this happens.
Alex does not do his show regularly for most of the week, but he also is there.
So, I don't know.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I gotta take time off to tan.
jordan holmes
Ah, I love it.
I love it, you failure.
dan friesen
So, Alex is like, I gotta fucking get out of here, man.
I don't want to do this.
jordan holmes
This is senioritis.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he gets in, like...
This is where everything falls apart.
Because, look, to his credit, Alex is not making up what he ends up yelling about.
And that is that Alan Dershowitz did an interview where he said that vaccines should be mandatory.
Everybody should be forced to get vaccines.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
I don't know how much Alan Dershowitz has control over this.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with none.
dan friesen
Maybe.
But it makes Alex really mad.
alex jones
And Bill Gates doesn't have to worry about guns.
Because I fire projectiles at truth.
And the last thing I want is anything happening to Dershowitz.
It's you, Dershowitz, that's coming with your vaccine, telling me I will submit!
jordan holmes
You're a scot!
alex jones
Got me on air now.
Did you delay that out?
You're trying to attack me!
dan friesen
So, here is that unedited.
alex jones
And Bill Gates doesn't have to worry about guns, because I fire projectiles at truth.
And the last thing I want is anything happening to Dershowitz.
It's you, Dershowitz, that's coming with your vaccine, telling me I will submit!
You're assaulting me, asshole!
You goddamn fucking piece of shit!
All right, see, I told you I can't be on air now.
Did you delay that out?
I may have to go off air right now.
You're trying to attack me!
dan friesen
What a baby.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
Performative anger is somehow turning into regular anger and then back into performative anger?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a weird...
That's a weird gray area.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's obviously really mad, but also some of it is clearly amped up for effect.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and none of it's real, so there's that.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, like, what it tells me, too, is that Alex is not concerned about radio stations.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Not really at all.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Because otherwise you'd be much more careful about swearing on air, which could get you giant fines.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
On radio stations.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Or get you just kicked off the stations.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you do it too much.
So Alex is really mad at Dershowitz, and this goes on a little bit longer.
It's quite a breakdown.
He yells a lot about Alan Dershowitz.
alex jones
You just can't help it.
Because you got a one-inch pecker.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
See, it's a family show, but just the veneers.
I'm the opposite of an actor, folks.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
dan friesen
But it's a family show.
alex jones
You got a one-inch dick.
jordan holmes
You got a one-inch pecker, buddy.
dan friesen
Family show.
I'm not going to dwell too long in the world of Alex yelling at Dershowitz because I don't care.
jordan holmes
Yeah, fuck Dershowitz too.
dan friesen
So Alex gets into finally talking about this Secret Service story and this is so fucking funny.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I probably believe everything Alex is saying about this story.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's new.
dan friesen
Because the reality is so pathetic.
jordan holmes
Oh no.
dan friesen
Here's the first part of the story.
alex jones
But I did have the Secret Service approach me.
And I was at the RNC, and the night they tried to approach me, I had been drinking, and I didn't even meet with them because I'd been up all day and I didn't do it.
And they were kind of insulted.
So then they approached Joe Biggs.
And Biggs was like, yeah, she's got a black ambulance.
She's having seizures every hour.
And they say, we've got reporters.
We've got to follow.
And I go, Biggs, I believe you.
But I said, I want to meet with the Secret Service.
And they said, well, you didn't go to the meeting or whatever.
And I said, okay, man, I was tired.
It was like nine at night.
I'm being totally haunted by everything right now.
And I don't drink that much now.
A lot of times I quit for months and months, but I did get a little sauce that night.
They wanted to meet with me.
dan friesen
So, Alex at the Secret Service want to meet with him around the RNC, but because he was partying, he was too drunk to meet with them, and they were offended.
jordan holmes
So we're basically dealing with the night where he couldn't even give his keynote speech.
He was so drunk so early.
dan friesen
That was CPAC.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
The RNC would be like the...
jordan holmes
Now I remember.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that wasn't the deplorable.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Where he was rambling around about peeing on a tree and how we're Atlantis.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we are Atlantis.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he does end up eventually making contact with the Secret Service.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
Because they're concerned that he has information about a plot to assassinate Trump, right?
And so you would think that maybe Alex has some deep intel or somebody's told him something.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
He explains what his information is, and it's so lame.
alex jones
So the Secret Service calls up, and I invited him over.
They said, yeah, we might come over, but they didn't.
And they just said, can you send us where these threats are being made?
I'm like, are you joking?
You don't know Phil Mudd threatened.
So the guys at Foggy Bottom are going to go after Trump.
The government's going to kill this guy.
He goes, no, he really said that?
And I said, yeah, I'll send it to you.
So I did.
I don't know if those guys got Secret Service visits, but if you're like an auto parts salesman and you say you're going to kill the president, you get a visit.
dan friesen
So Alex just sent them a link to that CNN or MSNBC interview that he yells about all the time.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is apparently the extent of the Secret Service interview that was in the headlines.
So he was too drunk to meet with the RNC that they finally make contact with him.
He's like, oh yeah, you see this film out interview?
jordan holmes
Wow.
I'm flabbergasted.
dan friesen
I can believe that.
jordan holmes
That I can believe as well.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes, that I absolutely believe.
Do you guys have this widely publicly available information that everybody's already talked about for a while?
If you don't, guess what?
Phil Mudd is coming to kill the president.
dan friesen
Alex thinks this is proof that he uncovered an actual plot.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
This dude is lost.
Lost in his imagination.
dan friesen
I love it.
So, Alex has an interview with Dan Lyman from Europe Wars, which is just basically a...
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
It seems like every time he's on, all they want to talk about is how immigrants are invaders and stuff.
Sure, sure, sure.
And so, Alex gets to talking about how the lockdowns that have been going on, turns out they haven't made people love government, which is weird.
alex jones
WHO directed lockdown convenient for communist China and Hong Kong and Taiwan with Macron that was super unpopular.
But look at Spain.
They've now got numbers out.
The government's even more unpopular after lockdown.
So they thought this lockdown would make folks love the government.
Looks like it's backfiring.
dan friesen
So one of Alex's big narratives about the motives for the globalists releasing this bioweapon was that there was unrest in places like China.
There was momentum growing around like the yellow vests.
Because the globalists are scared of this stuff, they enacted this lockdown to make people unable to protest, according to Alex's very stupid, childlike mind.
This is a dumb theory, and the reason it's so dumb is because Alex believes that everyone's convictions are just as flimsy as his own.
All of his political positions are completely changeable, depending on what he needs to support that day, so he just assumes, consciously or subconsciously, that everyone else is the same way.
jordan holmes
Well, they're doing what we're doing, and we're doing what they're doing because we're doing what they're doing.
dan friesen
Any evil group worth their salt would know that that plan would really only work in the very short term and it wouldn't be worth the trouble.
No villain would consider that plan.
So now we have Alex reporting that numbers from Spain that the government is not popular have come out, which seems to run counter to his narrative that the lockdowns were meant to crush dissent.
Instead of considering that maybe he just made that narrative up and it's based on nothing except his imagination, he reports it as proof that the globalist plan is backfiring.
And this is a really good demonstration of why this pattern of thinking has no way out.
Things that prove or disprove your arbitrary narratives can be used to support your narrative.
It's basically the same thing as Alex predicting globalists are going to kill Trump in the next few weeks.
And then when it doesn't happen, he can claim he stopped it, presumably by telling the Secret Service about a CNN interview.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'll do it.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that's the way this stuff works.
jordan holmes
He should have pointed him to the guys who were poisoning his Cokes every night.
Now there's a plot to kill Trump.
dan friesen
Well, I'm sure Roger ran that up the flagpole.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I assume so.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex, I don't care about him and Dan Lyman doing this immigrant.
Baiting, bashing stuff.
It's nonsense.
unidentified
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
But there are some fun things that end up getting said in that interview, like Alex's new policy on commerce.
alex jones
They need us.
We don't need them.
That's what I'm saying.
Don't give folks.
I won't give a leftist organization.
I look up things, restaurants, anything.
Who owns it now?
If they have any globalist affiliation leftist, I will go hungry before I give them one dollar.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
unidentified
Shop local.
dan lyman
Make sure you're checking for Made in America and definitely look for the Made in China and avoid Made in China at all costs.
harrison smith
Don't support that regime any longer.
unidentified
And, you know, if you have to, buy something Made in Vietnam.
harrison smith
If you have to go for that route, don't buy Made in China.
alex jones
I like thrift shops and stuff, but I literally go into them now and I go, are you a bunch of leftists?
They're like, no, we're not.
One good thing is a lot of leftists right now still act like they're leftists, but behind the scenes they go, oh, we hate it, we get it.
dan friesen
Okay.
I don't believe any of this.
Alex is just making up a bunch of shit about, oh, I checked to see if businesses are globalists.
jordan holmes
I think it might be interesting for him to go so far in anti-immigrant baiting that he actually does what I would recommend, which is shop locally and avoid mass-produced products that take advantage of labor in other countries.
dan friesen
It is interesting.
Yeah!
I don't know.
I think all that's made up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's totally made up.
dan friesen
These supposed leftists that are at thrift shops who are acting like leftists, but they fucking hate it.
jordan holmes
Secretly, they're like, nah, I love Trump.
Trump is huge for the thrift industry.
dan friesen
Whatever.
So, Alex gets into a headline.
The backlash has begun.
alex jones
But it's begun.
Massive ridicule in England where a man helps a woman fix her car, gives him a kiss on the cheek.
The police see that image of love and decency and normality, and they want to arrest him.
And it creates that final moment of backlash organization.
dan friesen
So, this story sounded really dumb, so I decided to look into it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
like making a loving gesture towards the person whose car you fixed, don't fucking kiss them on the cheek.
There's a decent chance they don't want you to, and it's pretty creepy, all things considered.
You may not know this, Jordan, but there's a rash of cheek-kissing-related crime going on.
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That is something I very much did not know.
dan friesen
In February, a 37-year-old Bakersfield man was arrested after he grabbed a 15-year-old girl and kissed her on the cheek.
jordan holmes
All right.
Well, that's a good arrestable offense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Actually, that story is really wild because he ended up writing his phone number on her hand.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And then her parents saw that and told her to call him and set up a meeting.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
And family members showed up with mace and taste.
That's good.
And the citizens arrested him and then called the police.
jordan holmes
Alright, okay.
So we're to catch a predator and go worst predator.
dan friesen
Indy to catch a predator.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a shitty predator.
dan friesen
So in September 2019, a man in Kentucky was arrested for harassment after he kissed a local news reporter on the cheek on live TV.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
In March 2019, a man in Arlington broke into a woman's house and she woke up to him kissing her on the cheek.
Which led to unlawful entry, assault, and battery charges.
There were way more stories about cheek-kissing-related crime in the past year than I would have imagined.
jordan holmes
We gotta get somebody to get rid of it.
I like face masks now.
I want full, like, let's get those spit guards and everything, too.
dan friesen
Whatever the case, Alex doesn't have the story right here.
This is about a lorry driver who'd gotten stuck under a low bridge.
A woman in her 70s helped guide him out of being stuck, and after he got out, he approached her and kissed her on the cheek.
A lot of people online were making fun of the Derbyshire police's tweet about it that said, People were saying, this is the police state!
Can a man not kiss a lady on the cheek anymore?
And of course, the police released a statement that made the situation very clear.
Quote, The incident left the woman, who is in her 70s, very distressed, especially at a time when close contact with strangers is to be avoided.
She reported it to us, and in the law, it falls under the Sexual Offenses Act of 2003.
The police would straight up not give a single fuck about this if the woman had not reported it.
She felt violated by the gesture, and the police were just taking her report seriously and trying to handle the situation.
Like, think about this.
Who exactly is Alex making fun of here?
That's important to remember, because he thinks he's targeting the police here, like they're overreacting and offended by a cheek kiss, but in reality, when he's covering a story like this this way, in effect, he's mocking this 70-year-old lady.
To Alex, she doesn't have the right to not thankfully accept the kiss of a stranger.
Alex is lying about what the story is in order to make people mad about it, but if they do get mad about it, the thing in the real world they're mad about is this 70-year-old woman having boundaries.
That's the real-world part of this, that any anger directed towards this story is funneled towards in reality, because the fake version of it doesn't exist.
jordan holmes
I just can't.
I just can't handle people.
How do you not...
Like, the first thing I think of whenever I think of that story is, why the fuck are you kissing her on the cheek?
How are you...
Do you not know?
Like, we're in social distancing, like, even then, just like, at best, you know, elbow.
Elbow handshake.
Something like that.
Don't fucking kiss a 70-year-old high-risk woman on the cheek.
dan friesen
That's insane!
Little glimpses like this of little stories that Alex is misreporting are really important to remember because there's hundreds of them.
There's just so many that they're just fingerprints of how bad a job he does on everything.
He's just really not good at this.
alex jones
Dan, I agree with you.
dan friesen
Thank you.
So.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
It's never not going to be hilarious.
So in this next clip, Alex discusses how he and Infowars had appealed or they applied for the small business money.
jordan holmes
Of course they did.
Of course they did.
dan friesen
But what's funny about this is Alex is pretending they did it as a test.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Let's see how the system works.
alex jones
By the way, as a test, we did it.
It took...
And I even hired a law firm to do it.
As a test.
unidentified
As a test.
alex jones
Three weeks to get logged into the business thing, which cost us tons of money.
And the way it all's set up is we can't even get the money.
InfoWars.
And I wasn't going to take it, but we couldn't even get it.
Jeff Bezos got $33 billion.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
Alright, Alex, you weren't going to take it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
My ass, you weren't going to take it.
jordan holmes
Alex doesn't take money whenever it's for ideological purposes, Dan.
dan friesen
I just did it as a test.
jordan holmes
Alex rejects money that he, you know, just as a test.
dan friesen
It was a journalistic endeavor.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Man.
My oldest brother is a dyed-in-the-wool, hates socialists and conservatism, and I don't think he's into Q, but he's Q-adjacent.
And he was telling me about how he's on unemployment right now, and I just wanted to throw my phone into a lake.
Like, I just wanted to toss it into the lake.
Like, I can't handle that level of, well, I mean, if I need it, I'll take it.
Like, yeah.
Yeah, you idiot.
dan friesen
You should start to get it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, of course not.
dan friesen
So, there was a video going around.
That is frustrating.
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
It's like my dad being like, hey, these medical bills would be terrible if I didn't have Medicare.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, obviously, I don't want people to have health insurance.
We are an idiot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there was a video going around that people were mocking, and it was Alex with some water noodles on his head.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And it turns out, I think that was from The War Room, because it's not on this episode.
But Alex does talk about what clearly inspired that.
And it's those videos or pictures that you see of people at, like, cafes.
With water noodles on their head.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The six foot.
jordan holmes
I got it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
So communist China a month ago had kids wearing styrofoam noodles on their heads.
We're like, oh, look at the Chinese communist.
And now this is what goes on in America.
And now in Europe, public humiliation cafe makes customers wear stupid hats to enforce social distancing.
Well, they're not calling it fishtails the dumbest fucking people on earth.
jordan holmes
Family show.
alex jones
You know, I don't normally use non-King's English here, but...
dan friesen
And you seem to be a lot today.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, alright.
Dumbest fucking people on Earth.
jordan holmes
Today must have been a bad day for him.
dan friesen
Seems like a bad day.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You should take a nap.
Or eat a Snickers.
jordan holmes
Or just get off your ship.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You said earlier you need to be off air.
jordan holmes
Just burn your studio to the ground.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex does not get off air, but yeah, I mean, I guess eventually he does.
But in this last clip from May 18th, he talks about how great Band.Video is doing.
alex jones
Well, I knew Band.Video would be big, but it's getting really big.
We got lots of videos, like every day with a million views or more.
And it's all these band medical doctors, heads of virology at Rockefeller Hospital and heads of virology in Australia and heads of us.
Nobel Prize winners for Ruralogy coming out and saying COVID-19 is a hoax.
They'll have a million, 10 million, 15 million views.
They get banned.
I just have the crew.
I go, hey, any medical doctor you see with a half million views, they'll be banned.
Go ahead and grab it.
And we have it and we post it.
dan friesen
What's absent from that telling of the story is permission.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I have no idea if these people have agreed to allow them to repost stuff.
I don't know.
If they haven't, that's pretty shitty.
jordan holmes
Does he think their views come with him?
Yeah, I think so.
Oh, they got half a million on YouTube.
That means that when I repost it, I already have half a million hits on that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
But what he's saying is absolutely not true.
There's a complete lie about band.video.
Alex remains the most popular thing on that website, with his shows getting around 100,000 views, with some getting up to around 170,000.
There's some anomalies that I saw, like a little clip that he made that was pro-Tucker Carlson that got about 290,000.
But it gets really, really sad really fast when you leave Alex's channel.
Owen Schreuer's War Room episode from May 20th is sitting at 1,500 views as I prepare this episode.
And his show from the 19th is only at 7,500.
jordan holmes
He's killing it!
dan friesen
David Knight's numbers are comparably depressing.
Robert Barnes' show is actually doing a little better than Alex's main network shows, pulling in between 12,000 and 20,000 views.
jordan holmes
Good work, Barnes.
dan friesen
Paul Joseph Watson, his videos are surprisingly low in views, but that's just because he's still on YouTube, so his fan base doesn't need that dumb site.
Alex recently gave David Icke a channel, and that doesn't seem to have been taken off nearly as well as expected.
Most of his videos are sitting under 25,000 views.
There's exactly one video I could find with more than a million views, and it has 1.4 million.
This is not something Alex made.
It's just something that he took from someone else.
It's a reposting of Plandemic.
jordan holmes
There we go!
unidentified
Hey!
dan friesen
That is all he's talking about.
jordan holmes
How about that?
dan friesen
The rest of the site is a depressing disaster.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
I mean, the numbers aren't bad if you're like an indie creator trying to get some steam going, but Alex is a multi-millionaire on year 26 in the media industry.
This is pathetic.
But, I guess congratulations to Alex for reposting someone else's documentary and getting a million views on it.
Really a strong indication that things are working out in-house for Infowars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, his content is really picking up.
I mean, not his content.
His stolen content.
You know, like 1776 is 1984.
dan friesen
And Hillary for prison.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So now we get to May 19th.
This show is fascinating to me because I'm going to just give you a spoiler alert.
Alex leaves halfway through it without even saying he's leaving.
jordan holmes
Sure, that's great.
dan friesen
He doesn't even threaten to leave.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
He just leaves.
jordan holmes
He just goes.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
Like an Irish goodbye on your own show.
That's fun.
dan friesen
Yep.
And he starts out pretty hot.
alex jones
None of the Rockefellers measured up after David Rockefeller.
He was in charge until his early 90s and died at, what, 99 a few years ago after his seventh heart transplant failed.
And the globalists really don't believe in just passing on power through royalty unless someone rises to the occasion.
Well, the decision was made to make Bill Gates the head of the New World Order.
About 12 years ago, as best I can tell.
dan friesen
As best you can tell.
jordan holmes
Reportedly, this is 35 years after he became a demon.
dan friesen
As best you can tell.
Get the fuck out of here, Alex.
jordan holmes
As best I can tell.
dan friesen
Like, cite anything.
jordan holmes
From reverse engineering the present, I can tell you that it was about 12 years ago.
dan friesen
Good.
Good for you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was about a big dozen years ago.
dan friesen
In my imagination, right around when Obama got elected, that was when Bill Gates was made the head of the Illuminati.
jordan holmes
Now, I'll let you in on a secret.
The globalists don't believe in passing power down through, like, royalty.
Except, let's cut back to any time in my previous history when I said, That's why he hates Anderson Cooper.
dan friesen
Right, because he's a Vanderbilt.
He's the last Vanderbilt.
jordan holmes
What are you fucking doing?
They don't believe me.
Fuck off.
dan friesen
There's no such thing as dynastic power among the globalists except for the globalists are...
The Rothschild lineage and all the 13 bloodlines.
Okay.
Which is it?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Dumb dumb.
jordan holmes
Pick one.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Alex has to do this show.
I think he probably would have taken off.
Maybe?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I mean, he said he was going to take off the day before.
On the 18th, he said he's taking the rest of the week off.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or at least a few days.
No, he's in studio.
But I think it's because...
Fucking idiot-ass Trump got on TV and said he was taking hydroxychloroquine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one stopped.
dan friesen
On the afternoon of the 18th.
And so now Alex has got to spin it.
He's got to rationalize.
alex jones
I have never seen a more clear-cut, etched in stone, teaching moment to show complete, crystal-clear fraud.
A Rosetta Stone, a skeleton key.
A masterclass.
A masterpiece of on its face lies, treason, arrogance, deception, and rejection of ignorance and superstition and fear of ideas and fear of communication, which the universities have now been inverted from the pentacle of empowering humanity to the pentagram of inverting silencing debate.
jordan holmes
Pentacle?
alex jones
Hydroxychloroquine is one of the only known treatments that actually works for respiratory illnesses.
jordan holmes
Lupus.
alex jones
It's also known as a cure for malaria and a preventative.
It's also known as one of the only treatments of off-drug that works in lupus.
And there are hundreds and hundreds of studies that hydroxychloroquine...
When taken in the first stages of a coronavirus COVID-19 infection, he is 100% effective.
dan friesen
So Alex makes a few points there that I'd like to address.
He says that hydroxychloroquine is one of the only known treatments that works for respiratory illness.
So I consulted RT Magazine about this claim, which does not stand for Russia Today.
It's actually respiratory therapy.
In their article, quote, pharmacological treatment of respiratory disorders, you may be surprised to learn that neither hydroxychloroquine nor chloroquine comes up.
There are so many medications that are used to treat respiratory illnesses, and those two are not on the list.
Just think about all the inhaler-based things like albuterol, and then add some corticosteroids and all sorts of other meds, and you have an idea of the different strategies doctors have to deal with respiratory conditions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but those are all based on hydrochloroquine, Dan.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Hydroxychloroquine.
dan friesen
There are definitely uses for hydroxychloroquine, but respiratory conditions is not relevant on that list.
Alex is just making that up.
He says that it's used for malaria, which is true.
Alex has earned a little pat on the head for that.
He then says that it's known as one of the only off-drugs that works for lupus, and I have no idea what an off-drug is or what he's trying to say.
jordan holmes
It's an off-drug.
dan friesen
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
You know, it's a drug that's off.
dan friesen
It is true that hydroxychloroquine is prescribed for lupus under the name Plaquenil.
That's really one of the big reasons why it's a bad idea to cause a run on this medication, because it's only going to hurt people who need it for their conditions.
But Alex doesn't seem to understand or care about that dynamic.
Either way, antimalarial drugs are only part of the approach towards managing lupus.
Treatment and management of lupus is a complicated game, and if you go to lupus.org, you can read up on the various medications that are used to help people with the condition, including steroids, anti-inflammatories, and anticoagulants.
Alex's claim that hydroxychloroquine is one of the only treatments for lupus is painfully reductive and a pretty strong indication that he has no idea what he's talking about.
He then goes on to assert that there are hundreds and hundreds of studies that show that the medication is perfect in its effectiveness, provided that it's taken in the early stages after catching the coronavirus.
There aren't hundreds of stories about chloroquine and coronavirus, period.
He's just making that shit up.
Most of the recent studies show that it is not effective at all and possibly dangerous.
A few days before Alex recorded this episode, two new studies were published in BMJ, which, quote, found that when compared with standard treatment, the use of hydroxychloroquine did not increase the likelihood of virus elimination in Chinese patients with mild to moderate COVID-19, nor did it have any effect on reducing admissions to intensive care or death in French patients with more severe illness.
Both studies found a higher rate of adverse events in patients treated with the drug.
I understand that it's Alex's job to run Trump defense whenever he says something stupid or dangerous, to pretend that there's some kind of hidden reality wherein Trump is actually right and the people criticizing him are the stupid ones, but this is too much.
Trump straight up went on TV and said he was taking hydroxychloroquine, which is just madness.
He's either lying, which is absurd and very hard to guess why a person would do that, or he's telling the truth and either has COVID-19 or thinks without any evidence that taking it will protect him from getting infected.
There's nothing I can say about this.
Trump is throwing around weird claims that if people, you know, they take his lead, could lead to them getting hurt or killed.
And Alex is right there, licking the boots and coming up with completely nonsensical rationalizations for why Trump said that stupid thing, and it's actually secretly smart.
What a fucking loser.
Take the day off, asshole.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
Isn't that a crime?
Can you?
Isn't that making false medical claims?
I guess that he's not selling hydroxychloroquine.
dan friesen
I still think you could probably get in trouble.
jordan holmes
I think you should get in trouble.
dan friesen
For making definitive statements, which we might get to later.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Why is everybody stupid?
dan friesen
Everyone's dumb.
jordan holmes
Everybody's stupid.
I heard Trump say that, and I was just like, this is what being beaten feels like.
Because I heard him say that, and I was like, I guess.
Fine.
The end.
dan friesen
There's a sinking feeling of like, I can't stop that.
jordan holmes
Yep.
No, I'm at the end of 1984.
Fuck it.
Fuck it.
Don't give a shit.
dan friesen
So Alex is thrilled that Trump is saying he's taking it.
unidentified
Of course he is.
dan friesen
Because Alex believes that there's some sort of a preventative efficacy that it has, which is completely unproven.
alex jones
They come out and say the president is a fraud and a liar and a scammer.
When he makes his own medical decision with his own personal doctor.
To take it preventatively with zinc.
jordan holmes
My God.
alex jones
And Trump decided to knock out his bacterial flora and took a Z-Pak up front.
Hope he's taking probiotics to replace him.
But yeah, around the people he's with, I get it, because they could hit him with some weaponized version.
So, what is the CIA?
That means some leftist arm of it.
This is out of any fair.
CIA, please ignore Trump's medical advice on coronavirus.
Yeah, who are you?
A doctor.
You're not Bill Gates.
You're not.
Alan Dershowitz, you know, they tell us they're doctors.
Trump's not a doctor.
He's only playing one on TV.
Washington Post.
Trump's not a doctor.
Trump urges coronavirus patients to take unproven drug.
How dare him?
So, this is a top story everywhere, and they're saying he's a fraud.
Impeach him.
The Democrats are calling for hearings.
dan friesen
So, as I understand it, there are some hearings that are happening right now about the government's response to the virus, but I don't think I've heard anyone say that it's leading to impeachment.
I think Alex is conflating this stuff and the House's ongoing investigation into the instances of possible obstruction of justice that were in the Mueller report.
There is no impeachment coming.
But we've now reached the point in Alex Jones' career where he's cheerleading for the president of the federal government, telling his followers that it's a good idea to take a medication that's been in no way proven to be effective and is possibly dangerous.
I really thought this guy hated the federal government and was intrinsically distrustful of a singular executive.
So weird how his career is shaken out.
Almost like he never really believed any of that shit.
He yelled into a bullhorn.
I will say that he's super lucky that his audience is too dumb to realize that that switch happened, because to anyone who's paying attention, this is fucking ridiculous.
jordan holmes
I'm just so terrified that Trump is going to wind up killing himself via his own stupidity, and then the right wing is going to turn that into he was assassinated, and then we're all going to fucking die in a civil war.
Like, that's my fear now.
My fear is Trump is so stupid, he's going to die and kill us all.
dan friesen
I do think, I mean, I don't know how likely that is, but I will say that if by some quirk or some weird...
Awful coincidence, he does end up dying through some unhealthiness or some just natural causes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Absolutely, it's going to be a conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, totally.
unidentified
100%.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I know that much.
jordan holmes
This is how we're going to get the granddaughter of Martin Luther King Jr. in the White House.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
That's what's going to happen.
unidentified
Those time travelers.
jordan holmes
That's the only thing that makes sense.
Those time travelers were dead on.
dan friesen
So, it turns out Alex believes that the coronavirus, I guess he might not think it's a virus.
I don't know where he stands on this.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
But he's saying in this next clip that it's a deficiency of vitamin D, basically.
alex jones
Folks, they have people under criminal investigation or SWAT teaming medical doctors that give patients vitamin C because they don't want you to know that it's a disease of vitamin deficiency.
Zinc, D3, vitamin C. Major Yahoo News AP last week admitted it.
They did a huge EU study and found everyone that died of COVID-19 was...
Deficient in D3.
dan friesen
So Alex is a little off about this.
For one, I'm not sure what he thinks is an EU study.
I don't know what that means.
But there was a study that came out on May 7th from Northwestern University which analyzed patient data from 10 countries and found that, quote, patients from countries with high COVID-19 mortality rates had lower levels of vitamin D compared to patients in countries that were not as severely affected.
The head of research of Vadim Backman said, quote, While I think it's important for people to know that vitamin D deficiency may play a role in mortality, we don't need to push vitamin D on everybody.
This needs further study, and I hope our work will stimulate interest in this area.
The data also may illuminate the mechanism of mortality, which, if proven, could lead to new therapeutic targets.
The theory that Backman has is that having higher levels of vitamin D could reduce the risk of complications, but that a lot of people would still be dying from the virus.
Nothing in this study demonstrated that everyone who died had vitamin D deficiency.
Alex is just making that up.
There are some other studies on this subject, but they're even further from what Alex is talking about, so I assume that's not what he's pulling from.
I have no idea.
This is an interesting area to be looked into, but that study is not even peer-reviewed yet, so we will see what comes from it after further examination.
Either way, literally no one is saying that vitamin D could be an effective treatment for this.
That there may be a correlation between lower vitamin D and higher complication probability.
That's the essential piece in this.
Alex is translating that into everyone who died had vitamin D deficiency.
I can find no evidence that that's true.
jordan holmes
I have a hard time believing that the information there does not also coincide with...
Less privileged populations in terms of vitamins and all of that.
dan friesen
Very possible.
jordan holmes
Malnourished people are probably more likely to die as well.
dan friesen
It's very possible.
That's something that would be borne out by further study.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
I just feel like screaming all the time, Dan.
You can't make that up.
That's mean.
That's mean to me.
dan friesen
The doctor who got arrested that Alex is talking about is a guy named Charles Mock.
And he ran a Detroit clinic and literally claimed that high-dose IV vitamin C infusions would protect people.
Sure.
According to a Daily Beast article about his arrest, quote, This is not so much a problem about a doctor giving people vitamin C. It's more the fraud aspect that the courts are concerned about.
That's weirdly so often the problem with Alex.
He misses the forest for the trees.
No one cares about a doctor giving someone vitamin C. They care if they do it in a fraudulent way.
In the same way, no one cares if you kiss someone on the cheek, so long as they want to be kissed on the cheek.
Alex seems incapable of understanding context, which makes sense.
You know, whatever.
That's not news.
jordan holmes
I think you can also get him on an attempted murder charge if he's letting people who have COVID-19, if he's directing them.
dan friesen
Maybe attempted manslaughter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's some serious shit right there.
dan friesen
But also, to be fair...
That is just what the witness alleges.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure if that witness is correct.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying it's proven.
I'm just saying that if I'm hearing that, I'm putting it on the list.
Jesus.
dan friesen
So here's where all this starts to get really troubling.
Alex makes a claim that I think...
jordan holmes
I'm glad that this is where it all starts to get troubling.
Everything prior to this was...
dan friesen
Alex makes a claim that I think is a little bit maybe past what he should be saying.
alex jones
The president's taken much.
To go, oh yeah, the study's saying the doctors tell me this hydroxychloroquine's great because it loads the cells.
You don't need it, folks.
You take 10 times the daily allowance.
That's safe.
I looked into it at doctors on the show.
Long term, not good for your kidneys, but during this, you take 100 milligrams of zinc, you're in like Flynn if you've got the D3 and the C. But they can't get in the virus.
Viruses cannot get into cells and cannot replicate when you have zinc load.
jordan holmes
Fake!
unidentified
Fake!
dan friesen
That sounds pretty bad, considering that we all know that Alex sells zinc supplements.
So the A to B on this is pretty obvious.
Even if Alex isn't saying the shit in the same time as he's plugging the real red pill, it's still a reality that he sells zinc and has marketed these products as...
Things that have zinc.
And he's literally said on the show that right now that if you make a dose on zinc, you won't get the coronavirus.
I really don't think that's legal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he should be arrested like a certain doctor that we're talking about.
Yeah, no, this should be immediate dismissal from the heir.
dan friesen
According to a 1990 study in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, quote, At low intakes, but at amounts well in excess of the recommended daily allowance, which is parenthetically 100 to 300 mg of zinc per day versus the RDA of 15 mg,
evidence of induced copper deficiency with attendant symptoms of anemia and neutropenia, as well as impaired immune function and adverse effects on the ratio of low-density lipoprotein to high-density lipoprotein cholesterol, have been reported.
So there are issues with just the amount that Alex is describing, and not necessarily long-term taking of it.
You could get anemia.
You could get copper deficiency.
Your immune function could be impaired based on the 100-milligram dose of zinc that he's recommending.
He has no business making these kind of recommendations.
jordan holmes
Conservatives would rather kill themselves than listen to a real doctor.
dan friesen
Probably.
Alex is telling his listeners that it's totally cool to do something that's potentially dangerous and maybe possibly lethal in order to convince them that he has the answer as to how to avoid getting the coronavirus.
It's really hard for me to imagine anyone acting more irresponsibly than this.
Given the circumstances.
jordan holmes
This is very depressing.
dan friesen
It's pretty depressing.
jordan holmes
That's really depressing.
dan friesen
Fuck off, man.
jordan holmes
That's really depressing.
unidentified
Fuck off.
jordan holmes
Play that clip where he agrees with me.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
There isn't one.
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't get that one?
dan friesen
Alex only agrees with me.
alex jones
Oh, goddammit.
dan friesen
Now, here's the thing.
Alex might be sounding like he's talking shit, but it turns out his doctor, Alex's doctor, takes hydroxychloroquine.
alex jones
My family doctor takes it.
I had been into a medical checkup in like three years.
I went in and got the checkup.
And he said, I'm not worried about it.
I've ordered hydroxychloroquine.
He goes, it was sold out here.
I got it from France.
I'm like, okay, great.
But, I mean, I was like, don't you just take zinc, Doc?
And he goes, yeah, but I want to push it in my cells.
I mean, it's just a fact.
dan friesen
Alex is laughing there because I think he realizes how obvious it is that his doctor is himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think he laughed because he's like, oh my god, I can't believe people will believe this.
jordan holmes
This story is too fake even for me.
I have to laugh at the end of this story.
A doctor said, I need to push in my cells.
dan friesen
It's almost like, I can't believe I get away with this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
That was what that laugh was.
unidentified
That's bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's crazy.
So Alex gets to listing his sales.
He's got a big sale going on.
And some of this, I think if you listen carefully, sounds pretty fucking desperate.
alex jones
Ultimate krill oil.
Oh, you talk about D3.
Wow.
50% off.
Back in stock.
So good for your whole body.
So good for your heart, your brain.
It's amazing.
You sleep so much better with it, and that's my personal experience.
Survival Shield X2, 50% off.
The cleanest, best iodine out there.
That is a no-brainer.
You've got to have that.
Alexa Pure Breeze, 100% off retail.
Wait, what?
SuperMail Vitality back in stock, 35% off.
Limerick's Essentials hand sanitizer with essential oils.
That is.
50% off when you get the combo.
InfoWars Live Vanilla Coconut Protein Bars with no filler and they're high quality.
50% off.
No, that's 40% off.
Excuse me.
8-pack PowerStack, 70% off.
That is that cost.
X3 Triiodine, 60% off.
dan friesen
Those are some big, big fucking sales.
70% off.
I'm sure he didn't mean.
jordan holmes
At cost.
dan friesen
With the water filter, 100% off retail.
I'm sure he didn't.
That is not what the sale is.
unidentified
That's insane.
jordan holmes
We're going to give you a fucking water filter.
You call me, I'm going to mail it to you.
Pay $49.99 in shipping and you get a water filter.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a misspeaking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I hope so.
Otherwise, I want a water filter.
dan friesen
Also, I don't know if he's committed to stick to that sale because he announced it on the show.
But that would be trouble.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like it.
Let's get the FTC involved.
dan friesen
Yeah, I wonder.
jordan holmes
I wonder if he has to honor that sale.
I want my 100% off.
dan friesen
I'm going to look into this.
I might get a free water filter.
jordan holmes
I think, well, there's plenty of places to put it in here.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, halfway through the first hour of the show, Alex just starts playing a video about Bill Gates being evil that was made by this guy named James Corbett.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
He does a YouTube thing.
jordan holmes
Not Bill Corbett of MST3K.
dan friesen
No, other guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, gotcha.
dan friesen
So then, it just plays.
In and out of commercials, it's just playing this video.
Then, six minutes into the second hour, that wraps up, and Alex is gone.
He doesn't say he's leaving.
He's just gone.
Smoke bomb!
Yeah.
Harrison Smith and Greg Reese are hosting, which is a disaster.
But I thought, like, it's only half an hour of this episode.
I gotta listen to a little bit, see if Alex comes back.
jordan holmes
See what happens.
dan friesen
See what happens.
I haven't given Harrison Smith a listen in a while.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
How did it go?
Oh, man.
harrison smith
Bill Gates is a supervillain.
This is my realization.
He's a literal supervillain.
I actually went through and started...
To look at some of the most famous supervillains around these days.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
harrison smith
They literally sound like Bill Gates.
You have, of course, from the Marvel series, you have Thanos.
His whole point is, I'm going to save people by killing half the people.
There's too many people over a population.
We have to cull the population, which is just literally, it sounds like a Bill Gates TED Talk.
dan friesen
Oh boy, this is gonna be tough.
jordan holmes
Is anything real?
Is anything real?
dan friesen
This is gonna be tough.
jordan holmes
Nothing is real.
Everything has gotta be back to what fictional thing this feels like to me.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We can't just deal with reality.
Reality's scary, Dan.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know what this reminds me of?
This reminds me of The Truman Show.
I think people are all watching me lose my goddamn mind.
That's what's going on here.
That's my conspiracy theory.
Bill Gates put together a show.
You're in on it, Dan!
You must be!
dan friesen
Yep, totally.
So, I want to confirm that for you.
And then also tell you that I decided, why not...
Tee off on this fucking dork.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
If Alex is just going to leave in the middle of the show, I'm going to treat his other employees to the same kind of scrutiny that I usually give him.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
Let's see how the bench is.
jordan holmes
This is not going to go well.
dan friesen
When Alex has got to leave, these are the aces that he calls in to fill in.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
harrison smith
And then of course you have this story here.
Harvard scientists begin an experiment to block out the sun.
This is something that Bill Gates is involved with.
In fact, we have a video.
I think we can go to this.
This is clip number two.
This is Bill Gates explaining his plan to save the world.
Clip number two.
Do we have that?
jordan holmes
My God.
harrison smith
We'll get that in just a second.
The engineers are hard at work.
dan friesen
He's just trying to play a clip from The Simpsons.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was about to say.
dan friesen
And the joke doesn't work.
They play it later.
It doesn't pay off.
It doesn't work out.
Just very sad.
jordan holmes
Are there just cardboard cutouts of people working in the booth?
Like, is that what's going on?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Play Clip 2 and everyone's like, I've never even heard of Clip 2. It's gotta be temps or something.
What is going on?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is insane.
dan friesen
So I'm gonna skip this next clip because it's just nonsense.
Harrison being stupid.
I only kept it because he forgets the name of Margaret Sanger.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And it's like, come on, man.
Just pretend you know what you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pretend you care about the thing that you're covering.
So Greg Reese jumps in.
Right?
And he wants to talk about that idea about blocking out the sun.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
Here we go.
greg reese
And in The Matrix, that's how the humans tried to beat the machines, was to block out the sun.
And that ended up giving AI the upper hand and breeding people's batteries and stuff.
harrison smith
It's just insane.
The solutions that they come up to are...
Just as draconian as the problems that they think that they're solving.
And again, it's like you just type in supervillain, you know, go find some lists, top 25 supervillains of all time or whatever, and just read through what their plans are.
And they all sound exactly like Bill Gates' plans.
It really is as simple as that.
dan friesen
This guy does not have it.
I hate to be a dick, but this kid sucks.
jordan holmes
On my political talk show slash news show slash family show, I'm just gonna go through some top 25 lists of supervillains, Dan.
dan friesen
And compare them to Bill Gates.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's see what those look like.
Lex Luthor, plan number one.
Probably kill Superman.
That sounds like Bill Gates.
Let's see, who else we got?
The Joker.
Blow up that hospital and kill Heath Ledger.
I don't know how that guy worked.
That's Bill Gates.
dan friesen
I am going to play this clip of him talking about the thing where he forgets Margaret Sanger, after all, because he deserves us to actually look at some of his ideas.
Otherwise, we're just going to be laughing at how...
jordan holmes
How many top 25 lists are we going to have to go through?
dan friesen
Not in this clip, although he does bring up some villains later.
harrison smith
Here's the amazing thing.
You can watch, there's an interview with Mike Wallace and the creator of Planned Parenthood, whatever her...
Demonic name is.
And, you know, this was in the 1950s, and she was pushing population control because of overpopulation.
They were terrified of overpopulation.
You know, it's going to double in this long.
And, of course, what actually happened was that the global population far exceeded their most dire predictions.
We have way more people on Earth than they ever thought was possible.
jordan holmes
And things are going great.
harrison smith
Less poverty, less starvation than we ever have had before.
Of course, if we'd followed their suggestions back in the 1950s, The crop technique that allowed people to be fed and allowed the population to grow, maybe they would have never been born.
You just can't manipulate the human race in the way these people think that you can.
dan friesen
So, the stuff about predictions for population growth is a really complicated thing, and it's never really just about population.
It's also about resources and all these things.
I don't really want to get into it.
I don't think he has a handle on the topic.
Also, apparently Harrison didn't get the memo that Alex is really trying to play up caring about hunger in the developing world, so it might not be a good idea for him to come on the show and say there's less starvation than ever.
Kind of undercuts that whole we care thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he might as well have been like, because the World Health Organization is willing to put more...
Oh, no!
dan friesen
Now, it's funny that he forgot Margaret Sanger's name.
That's hilarious.
But the reason I remembered that I wanted to pull this clip is because it shows me how weird this dork Harrison Smith is.
I think what put me over the edge is his theory that population control measures, like family planning or birth control, might make it so the guy who invented some crop technique may never be born.
This is so weird on a bunch of levels.
For one, it implies a belief in hard predeterminism.
One person was destined to make that crop technique, and because their parents used a condom, now no one gets that crop technique.
This is a super weird way to look at the world, and it only makes him even more of a bummer, kind of, if you think about it.
He was predestined to be the eighth banana at InfoWars as the ship sinks.
Everything in his life was meant to lead to him being the guy even I will forget about six months after Alex goes out of business.
jordan holmes
I bet he wishes his parents used a condom.
dan friesen
The second part of this that's super weird is that to be totally sure that we don't miss out on any of these people being born who are predestined to come up with these crop techniques, what should we do?
Should all contraceptives be outlawed?
But what about masturbation?
One of those sperms might be the crop technique guy, you know?
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
You can't risk it.
jordan holmes
Well, that's why the Bible outlawed it.
dan friesen
If you take Harrison's weird thoughts to their logical conclusion, no one can masturbate, you can only have sex to procreate, and people need to be pregnant as much as possible.
Either that, or he doesn't actually care about that crop technique guy getting born as much as he's pretending he does.
My guess is this is just standard anti-abortion thinking being delivered by a very, very weird dork.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's the same...
Somehow that's like the...
If abortion was legal, we wouldn't have gotten Albert Einstein and all that shit.
But it's for just some random...
But even then, like...
The stuff was there.
Relativity existed without Albert Einstein.
If he didn't discover it, somebody else fucking would have.
The great man theory of history is fucking stupid.
dan friesen
Totally.
And there's so many things that we know one person as the father of or mother of or inventor.
jordan holmes
But it was a team of thousands working for years.
dan friesen
Either that or there were parallel thinking in unrelated groups that were coming to the development around the same time or on different timelines.
jordan holmes
Or it was a woman who did it and the man stole the credit.
dan friesen
There's a lot of this stuff.
I mean, yeah, pretending that, like, oh, if one person wasn't born, the thing that they invent wouldn't have happened is silly.
jordan holmes
The only person.
dan friesen
And, quite frankly, like, okay, necessity is the mother of invention, right?
We all say that.
That's a nice term.
Maybe Harrison can work it in at some point.
jordan holmes
Abortion is the deadbeat dad of invention.
dan friesen
If someone isn't born, the world exists.
Without their presence.
Whatever need that they were responding to to develop an invention exists in the absence of them being there.
You would think that someone else would work on the problem and maybe came...
Oh god, this guy is a fucking weirdo.
Fucking weirdo.
jordan holmes
These people are so stupid.
dan friesen
So Harrison wants to talk more about supervillains.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
dan friesen
And this is so...
Oh god, I loved it.
This made me laugh out loud.
harrison smith
Satan, right?
The old school, the classic, the Doctor Doom of the Bible.
His whole plan, of course, as we know from Revelations, is to microchip everybody, track everyone, keep everyone in a one-world government.
I mean, this stuff is laid out in that wonderful book known as the Bible.
dan friesen
The wonderful book known as the Bible.
jordan holmes
Go home.
Go home, Harrison.
Go home.
Go home.
Just go home.
dan friesen
You and Alex both need to be off air, but for different reasons.
jordan holmes
The old school.
The OG supervillain.
unidentified
Some people like to think of hell as Latveria.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, what are we doing?
This is what we're dealing with.
dan friesen
Now, this is where my mind got blown.
So, we know from a, I hate to call it this because it sounds very navel-gazy, but a legendary episode of our podcast that Alex has a very interesting interpretation of the Watchmen.
jordan holmes
He does.
dan friesen
He first of all doesn't know Ozymandias' name.
jordan holmes
Ozymandamus.
dan friesen
And, at the same time, thinks that the movie was positing that Ozymandias was the good guy and Rorschach was the bad guy.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
It turns out this might be a very common interpretation at InfoWars.
greg reese
It's interesting because you're talking about these supervillains and it's making me think of The Watchmen, which is a great movie.
I never read the comic, but I really enjoyed the movie.
And I can't think of the villain's name in that.
I think he named himself after an Egyptian pharaoh or something like that.
But the character that was trying to expose the plan, Rorschach, was sort of painted as a low-life villain scum.
As if the message of that movie that I thought when I watched it was, Was keep your mouth shut and don't try to expose this because it's a necessary plan.
harrison smith
Right, you don't understand.
You're just a little cretin down there that doesn't understand the big-brained plans that we have.
dan friesen
You guys don't understand complex storytelling.
jordan holmes
That is bad.
dan friesen
Maybe you should read the comic book.
jordan holmes
That is a good idea.
dan friesen
But also, I think you'd get that message from the movie.
jordan holmes
I don't think they can read.
dan friesen
I don't think they can.
jordan holmes
I don't think they can read.
Yeah, no.
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
That view of Rorschach is correct from the perspective of Ozymandias.
jordan holmes
There you go!
So you're saying that there are different points of view, and if you're analyzing a text, you want to...
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How is it that we are being defeated and are unable to outsmart people who read at a third grade level?
dan friesen
It's fascinating.
jordan holmes
This is bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is bad.
dan friesen
So Greg Reese believes that Ozymandias was the good guy.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
In the movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it turns out, I don't know if Harrison knows any better either.
harrison smith
It's emblematic, right?
Everything, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, any, you know, major work of fiction that captures the imagination of mankind has this in it.
People just don't recognize that, you know, in the Matrix, the machines are the bad guys.
People don't recognize- The orcs are the bad guys.
dan friesen
Who doesn't- What are we doing?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
unidentified
What is happening?
Who doesn't recognize that the machines are the bad guys in the Matrix?
dan friesen
Who's cheered for the orcs?
These dum-dums.
jordan holmes
It is not...
It was made very clear just by physical appearance.
The elves are the physical embodiment of beauty and the orcs are hideous murder creatures.
dan friesen
We get it!
It's not hard!
Let's leave that one aside for a second, because I think you get into Tolkien's complex and unfortunate racist views.
jordan holmes
I think it's very racist, yeah.
dan friesen
Let's just talk about The Matrix and The Machines.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
The Machines are the good guys, according to Agent Smith, or The Architect, or The Matrix itself.
jordan holmes
Those guys.
dan friesen
But the story is that they're bad.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The movie's POV is through Neo being the savior.
jordan holmes
Right.
Didn't he do that whole pose whenever he was sacrificing himself for the survival of the...
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's the bad guy.
The machines are the good guys.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
Was he in an upside-down cross whenever he did that?
Now that's a different interpretation.
dan friesen
God damn, these people are dumb.
jordan holmes
That's insane.
That's insane.
I feel like I'm losing my mind.
Listening to that is like, who makes you?
Where do you come from?
dan friesen
So they get to talking about the virus and the transmission rate of it.
And man, these people are so fucking stupid.
harrison smith
They say, okay, we're going to make this chart.
It's based on R, which is the rate of transmissibility or whatever they said.
And then they're asking, so what exactly is, you know, do you know what the value of R is?
And they say, well, the scientists say there is no possible way to know what the value of R is.
Okay, so you're shutting down the government based on this chart that's based off this value that you would make you don't know how to calculate?
Just what is going on?
Was I missing something here, Greg, or did I hear that correctly?
greg reese
No, that's true.
And if you watch the full video, they get into asking the question, why are they calling it R?
because the actual mathematic equation is R-naught, and they're not saying R-naught.
R-naught.
unidentified
In this full hour, they're actually saying, are they just abbreviating it, or are they creating a new definition?
dan friesen
So, to answer these gentlemen's questions, I will start with Greg Reese's concern.
There are two possibilities.
It could be that the people he's talking about were abbreviating R-naught to R for the sake of brevity and smoother conversation.
I wouldn't be too surprised if that was the case.
However, it's also possible they just met R. R-naught is the basic reproduction number for an illness, which is to say that it represents the average number of infections you would expect to be the result of one infected person.
If R-naught for a condition is two, then each person infected will likely infect two additional people on average.
This is a concrete number that is characteristic of an infectious disease, and it is not affected by the development of treatments or preventions.
It's just intrinsic to the condition.
R, on the other hand...
is the variable that's used to describe a disease's effective reproduction rate.
This number takes into account that some people are immune to conditions, maybe because they're vaccinated, so a proportion of the population won't end up getting infected even if they're exposed to a sick person.
You calculate this by taking R0 and multiplying it by the proportion of the population that is able to come down with a particular condition.
In the case of the coronavirus, it doesn't seem like we have any good idea about large swaths of the population who are immune, so it kind of looks like R and R-naught are basically the same thing here.
I know everything is a conspiracy at Infowars, but this one's a fucking dud.
As for Harrison's question about whether or not he missed something, he did.
When someone says they can't definitively nail down the value of R, that's not to say that they can't get a pretty good sense of it from available data.
With better data, as provided by things like increased testing, we could get an even better sense of the reproduction number of this new virus that we're really just playing catch-up with.
Also, R0 is not the most useful metric for understanding the evolving situation with the virus.
If Harrison wants to put on this incredulous act about not understanding statistical estimation, and Greg wants to accidentally reveal that he doesn't know what R is, and he probably only knows about R0 because he overheard the health rangers say it, then I hope they're having a good time doing it.
Looks really sad from where I'm sitting.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a stunning lack of curiosity.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
And it's just like, oh, why are you bringing up these concerns?
You could just easily have looked into them.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I know.
This is a situation where, like, on air, you want to have somebody be like, well, let me Google that for you.
You asked a question.
Yeah.
Look for the answer.
Don't just be incredulous.
dan friesen
It's a constant thing with Alex.
I mean, Alex does a better job of covering it.
Yeah.
Blunt and transparent with these dum-dums that he hires.
Thank you, Alex.
You should fire all these people.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a great point.
dan friesen
Fire them.
Fire them, Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's going to be abused.
dan friesen
There's no doubt.
So Harrison and Greg spin their wheels for a little bit longer.
And they start covering on the important news of the day.
Like, really important stuff.
jordan holmes
Top 25 supervillains.
harrison smith
This video was actually tweeted out by Michelle Malkin, and she tweeted out saying that the account that originally posted the video was deleted off Twitter, and the video is quickly deleted off Twitter.
So, figure, hey, if Twitter's deleting this video, it's probably something that our audience would want to know about.
dan friesen
So right there, that's the stupidest fucking mentality you can possibly have.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is the Alex Jones school of shitty reasoning, where consequences or pushback is misinterpreted as a virtue.
Harrison Smith couldn't phrase it more transparently or more pathetically.
If it got kicked off Twitter, then I figure it must be worth reporting on.
I think it's pretty easy to see how this line of reasoning goes astray pretty quickly.
Just because something was kicked off Twitter, that doesn't mean it has any value.
There are plenty of reasons something might get booted, like if there's a copyright claim.
Does every video that gets DMCA'd suddenly become relevant to report on?
jordan holmes
That makes it something I'm worth looking into.
dan friesen
Obviously not.
But right now, the overarching narrative is that the globalists are desperately trying to shut down any real information that's getting out, so anytime anything gets kicked off anything, it has an increased market value at Infowars.
I had no idea what this video is, so I decided to check out Michelle Malkin's Twitter, and oh boy, nothing but red flags.
There's a video of a recent interview she did with Gavin McGinnis, then a retweet of a VDARE video where they're doing an interview with Cassandra Fairbanks, and then an interview that she did with Laura Loomer.
A whole lot of no thanks on that page.
A lot of bad work by Malkin.
jordan holmes
All the words you just said made my eyes run.
Red with blood, and I just hear sirens just screeching pains in the back of my head like I'm in Kill Bill.
dan friesen
So I found this video, and the account that posted it is still up, as is the video.
It's just a group of like 40 people in Ireland in the middle of what appears to be a field holding up signs against vaccines.
Honestly, more of their signs seem to be anti-media, like things like quote, the media is the virus, and quote, RTE is the virus, which is a channel in Ireland.
The video has not been removed, nor is the account.
But by pretending that it was, Harrison can pretend this is somehow threatening to his imaginary enemies, which is just sad.
These guys...
jordan holmes
This is pathetic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is really sad.
dan friesen
It really started to bum me out.
And then this came on.
alex jones
I've been so busy fighting the globalists and working on some inside baseball stuff that I'm taking off the next few days to work on the Bill Gates film and to get a bunch of other projects completed and major investigative journalism.
And so I've been so busy, we haven't had time to come up with a new special.
We have to end this big mega-sale in a couple days.
We've extended it because a bunch of our best-selling items are selling out.
Vitamin Mineral Fusion, by the time you watch this, will be sold out.
dan friesen
So while these guys have been on air, or while that video was playing on this episode, Alex recorded this shot of him saying, I'm taking some time off, and also here, buy this shit.
So this plays, and I realize it's another hour of Greg Reese and Harrison.
I'm out.
jordan holmes
I'm out.
dan friesen
I can't do it.
So we end this, and now we go to the 20th.
jordan holmes
Where he will not be on, because he just announced that he would be taking some time off.
dan friesen
So the show starts...
alex jones
I am your host, Alex Jones.
And we stand at the precipice of the end of this.
The information we're about to cover in the next four hours is the most important information ever revealed on air in the history of human communications.
dan friesen
This is the most important information in all of communication?
Alex, you've got to be joking.
alex jones
That is not a joke.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You're having a great time today.
You are having a great time with your clips today.
This is the way that you dealt with your house being...
Perhaps.
dan friesen
So that's apparently not a joke.
The most important communication of all human history.
Alex talks about nothing for a couple minutes and then Owen Troyer and David Knight take over.
Really?
Really?
jordan holmes
No, that's not true.
That can't be true.
You can't open your broadcast like that.
dan friesen
No, he had to because he knows that no one's going to watch if those two are on, but if he sells it as the most important communication of all human history, maybe they'll stick around for that dumb, dumb, boring old asshole.
jordan holmes
If David Knight is involved with the most important communication in humankind's history, I quit.
I'm killing myself that day.
I'm out.
dan friesen
Done.
So Alex leaves, but I can listen to any more of that show because Owen and David can go get bent.
Yeah.
And apparently now Harrison will also be in that list.
Of automatic turnoff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
So we get to the 21st, and Alex is also supposed to be gone again.
jordan holmes
Well, naturally.
dan friesen
And he's not.
He is there for about the first 45 minutes of the show, because there's big news.
jordan holmes
There isn't!
dan friesen
There is big news.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
As any regular listener or viewer knows, I could care less about Hollywood.
In fact, I hate it.
I could care less about $100 million deals.
I don't care less about Spotify stock being up $4 billion if it was just in the normal course of business.
But with all the huge news we've got, and the fact that I'm supposed to be taken off the show to work on the Bill Gates documentary...
And take the kids hiking.
unidentified
I'm on air because of this.
alex jones
Joe called me yesterday.
We talked about 45 minutes, and I've known him 22 years.
And he has never spilt his guts to me like he did.
And I mean...
There's been times when we both had like two bottles of liquor and been up for a day and a half in Vegas.
And we didn't spill guts like this.
dan friesen
Sounds like Coke to me, but...
Yeah!
So what happened is that Joe Rogan signed an exclusivity deal with Spotify.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
For a hundred plus million dollars.
And Alex needs to make this about himself.
jordan holmes
He did what?
For a hundred plus million dollars?
I'm good on Rogan, I guess.
dan friesen
It's a smart business.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Particularly the way that YouTube is starting to become more of, you know, there's a lot more advertiser demands that are being made.
I think you hear this from a number of channels, that they're having difficulty relying on YouTube to be like a rock for them.
Some things are getting demonetized, some things are...
Just not as lucrative as they were.
And that's just a piece of YouTube's business changing its focus from where it was in the past.
And I think if you're Rogan, that is where most of your shit is.
It's a really smart decision to, instead of having this vulnerability to the possibility of ad revenues going down, you just get a payday out of this deal with Spotify, and now you're set.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
dan friesen
Now, the problem with this is...
That a lot of people don't like this.
This sort of thing.
There have been other podcasts that have gone to exclusive deals in the past and have lost a considerable amount of their fan base.
I know that the last podcast on the left, there was some backlash to them going Spotify exclusive because people don't like the idea that you have to get an app in order to get this content that you become acclimated to getting.
I think That Rogan has a big enough base that he can probably handle some loss, but you might end up seeing a pretty serious diminishment of his audience, and you might see a backlash from some of them who resent the idea of, like, I gotta download this app from this other business in order to get your content?
Fuck you, man!
Because, at the end of the day, quite honestly, if you want to take a cynical view, what has happened?
Is that over the last decade, or however long Joe's been doing the podcast, he has built up an audience on a free, openly available platform that has grown to the point where he now sees he can sell them.
jordan holmes
He sold it to Spotify.
dan friesen
He sold his audience to Spotify as subscribers.
Whether or not it's the premium accounts or not is kind of irrelevant.
You now are a Spotify consumer.
And if you want to listen to a show without ads interrupting all the time, you've probably got to get premium.
So there is like this, the way I look at it as a creator, I kind of do look at it as you created this audience and now you're selling them to this company.
But I think a more generous version of it could, and also looking at it as a creator, the struggle that Joe Rogan would be in with the uncertainty of like...
He makes millions of dollars on that podcast.
The idea of that going away because of changes in YouTube's structure or whatever is ridiculous.
He is in a position where, take that fucking $100 million deal, we're probably doing what you need to do.
But it could be destructive to him, and it also could set a precedent where a lot of other podcasts feel like they can do this.
And it could actually have an erosive and corrosive effect on...
Podcasting in general.
I'm not entirely sure.
We've got to see how things play out.
It could be a blip and it could be nothing, but it could actually have some negative consequences towards other people who have cottage industries of their own.
But we'll see.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
As far as that business model is concerned, it does seem like podcasting is being...
Consolidated the same way that other media has been consolidated over time.
Radio, Clear Channel, all of that stuff.
It's all owned by the same five media companies.
dan friesen
And then they got sold to other bigger companies.
There is that.
There is definite consolidation because it's a very lucrative...
jordan holmes
Only as long as it's consolidated.
To an extent, yeah.
dan friesen
It's a captive audience of people who have a built-up amount of trust and rapport with audiences.
There's an intimacy to it.
And those are people who are fertile marketing grounds for companies.
So, of course, there's going to be consolidation of it.
I mean, it's such a relatively new form of media that why wouldn't there be?
It's a process that happens.
It's just weird that somebody who doesn't need it necessarily and could do things completely independently would do it.
But also you understand why it's fucking $100 million.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
$100 million is $100 million.
dan friesen
$100 million guaranteed as opposed to whatever.
Anyway, Alex needs to make this story about himself, and so he does.
jordan holmes
I do now hate Joe Rogan for an extra reason, though, which is that he has $100 million.
Go fuck yourself, Joe Rogan.
How dare you pretend to have any positions when you have $100 million fucking dollars?
Shut up.
dan friesen
So Alex also says that Joe is going to move to Texas.
And I know that Joe has sort of talked about that a little bit, like the idea, but he would never do that.
Like, all of his guests are in California.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If he moves to Texas, he's got to convince Ari Shafir and Tom Segura and his wife, like, all of their families.
unidentified
Christina P. Yeah, he's got to get Burt Kreischer to move out.
jordan holmes
Burt Kreischer's not going anywhere.
Although, if he was going to move, if he was going to move...
dan friesen
Joey Diaz has got to move to Texas.
What are you going to do?
jordan holmes
Doug Sanhope is still pretty close by.
He's still living in that trailer in, what, Arizona or Oklahoma or whatever?
dan friesen
He doesn't make up for all of that.
And all the celebrities that he has on.
In the world where everything is done on Skype calls or on Zoom, yeah, maybe.
But I think that his podcast doesn't work nearly as well.
Because everyone's sitting around shooting shit.
And he wouldn't be able to do that remotely.
jordan holmes
There needs to be a certain energy in the room.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
So if he were to move to Texas, it would be at the detriment of his own show.
And I don't see that happening, but who knows?
jordan holmes
Although now that he's got that $100 million, fuck it.
He's guaranteed.
dan friesen
I'm going to do a podcast where I sit down and really get to the bottom of various people from town.
jordan holmes
We've got Terry.
She's the church deacon.
How are you feeling today, Terry?
dan friesen
Ratings tanking.
My deal guaranteed.
jordan holmes
Hey!
Fuck you!
dan friesen
So anyway, Joe has said that he might move to Texas, and it turns out there's some other people who are talking about moving to Texas, and these people are thought leaders, right?
alex jones
This is bigger than Joe Rogan, the number one podcast in the world.
It's about free expression, and it's about the dominoes falling, and it's about the fact that Dave Rubin, Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, they're all moving to Austin.
And they're classical liberals, not leftist authoritarians, and they're trying to escape the left.
And with thought leaders like that, we could get the left to finally wake up to a great extent about what schmucks they are.
dan friesen
So, to that, all I have to say is good luck.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
With thought leaders like Joe Rogan, Dave Rubin, and Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Thought leaders.
dan friesen
Good stuff.
So, this Rogan thing is big, and that's why Alex had to come into the studio.
unidentified
Of course.
alex jones
It was big when we had Trump on.
I wasn't nervous at all.
Not nervous when I talked to Trump on the phone.
It's important.
Trump's important.
This Joe Rogan thing is way bigger.
When I look at the tea leaves and the psychic imprint, you could say, makes me...
Can your third eye get cold?
tremor in the force.
The last time I felt it was in the presence of my old master.
dan friesen
Nailed it.
alex jones
This is a big enchilada.
And I said, Joe, you sure you want me to go on air and say all this because she Are you?
You do not want to miss this transmission.
dan friesen
So Alex's whole thing is that Joe Rogan is getting picked on by the YouTube people who are telling him he can't say things, and he's seeing these doctors get censored, and so that's why he decided to go to Spotify, as opposed to probably just legitimate good business concerns.
jordan holmes
It's $100 million.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
And Alex has also said that Rogan told him he's his first guest whenever he...
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
We're not doing another Rogan podcast.
dan friesen
Yeah, we are.
jordan holmes
Oh, God damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah, we are.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
Anytime Alex is on there.
Gotta do it.
jordan holmes
I hate it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I hate them both.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex has some inside baseball about his conversation with Mr. Rogan.
alex jones
And Joe told me about his plans, and I told him, I said, this is hardcore, man.
You really want me to tell people this?
He said, yeah, no, I want you to go on air and tell everybody this.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound right.
alex jones
Joe's always tried to stay politically neutral, and he tried to get along with the left, and they have acted like total monsters, and he's done with them.
He doesn't care what they do.
He's coming after them.
So that's what's exciting.
dan friesen
He's going after the left.
jordan holmes
He's going after the left.
That is what's exciting.
That's great.
I'm very excited by that.
dan friesen
The last I checked his page, Patton Oswalt was the last guest.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, and he's going after him.
He's going after him for all those lefty beliefs.
dan friesen
Whatever.
Whatever, Alex.
So, Alex talks about this a lot, and it's like, Rogan, this is a seismic event.
All this shit.
And then he says this.
This is really weird.
alex jones
And so people are now finding God.
I can't get into that, sorry.
A certain well-known person talked to me about Jesus quite a bit the other day and how much God has empowered them and how they trust fully in God.
jordan holmes
He's talking about Roger Stone?
alex jones
So, a lot of good things are happening.
I'm talking about a major leader.
dan friesen
I'm guessing it's Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
It has to be Roger Stone.
I saw that news story where it was like, Roger Stone found Jesus or whatever.
dan friesen
I think that's what it is.
jordan holmes
There's nothing more transparent than Roger Stone saying he found Jesus.
dan friesen
Alex could see Roger as a major leader.
Yeah, totally.
Either that or...
Tom Brady?
Bolsarno?
jordan holmes
Bolsarno?
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
Bolsarno!
dan friesen
So look, Joe Rogan is a man because he's standing up to the pressure of the globalists.
jordan holmes
Has Joe Rogan ever worn a pink sweater?
dan friesen
He probably has.
Look, here's the thing.
A lot of people used to like Alex, but then they sold out.
alex jones
Everybody else sells out that makes millions of dollars.
Stephen Colbert knows all this stuff.
He used to be a patriot, too.
Did you know that?
Oh, my God.
I'm going to stop right there.
Come on.
Look at Stephen Colbert now.
He's got to sit there and worship Bill Gates on TV, and he got a bonus for that.
Did you know that?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Most of the people at Comedy Central hate the management, and they tell us everything.
dan friesen
You're just making this stuff up.
jordan holmes
Well, most people at Comedy Central do hate the management.
dan friesen
I bet they do.
jordan holmes
Most people hate management.
dan friesen
Stephen Colbert got a bonus for interviewing Bill Gates.
You wouldn't even be able to get that information from Comedy Central.
He's not on Comedy Central.
unidentified
Does he think that Stephen Colbert's character was...
dan friesen
I think he might.
jordan holmes
That's the only explanation for that, right?
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
He genuinely thinks that Colbert was giving a straight-laced...
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know, because in the past, Alex has indicated that he realizes that satire.
So I don't know.
Also, Colbert, he might be the kind of guy who would wear an upside-down cross.
jordan holmes
He's Catholic.
Exactly.
He's very Catholic.
dan friesen
So Alex wouldn't like that.
Anyway, Alex gets to talk about more inside baseball, and it turns out that Joe is apparently making the same amount of money that he was before, but now he's free of YouTube, and it's against the New World Order.
And then, Mike, down for this, because I want to see if you have the same feeling that I have about what Alex is describing.
alex jones
The details of Joe's deal, he's making the same amount of money, folks.
He's making Spotify an extra $5 billion, $4.5 billion since this deal happened, and it's a big success, and that's great because it's in his contract.
He has free speech, but see, that's about making the industry know.
If you block people's speech, you take the evil out of YouTube, or the, you know.
You out of Facebook, if you take the people out of it, we will just exit us.
And as other companies see this, the investment will come in very quickly because the speed of scalability of technology and overnight everyone is going to move to these other platforms and you'll see Alex Jones back on Spotify.
unidentified
No, you won't.
dan friesen
But what Alex is describing is collective bargaining.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex is describing a union.
jordan holmes
You got it.
Yes.
Yes.
Unions are very good.
Except for whenever I disagree with unions.
But whenever I need a union, just like with my brother in unemployment.
Well, yeah, when I need it, of course.
dan friesen
We should all take our labor, let's say, and withhold it from this company because they are not...
Following what our needs are.
jordan holmes
Right, because our leverage...
dan friesen
We have a grievance, and the leverage that we have...
jordan holmes
Is all of us.
That's what we...
So, power of man.
dan friesen
So, when one of us is treated unfairly, we all withhold our labor in order to pressure the person who is wronging our brother, our brother, our sister, from being able...
To be treated fairly, blah, blah.
jordan holmes
And that's labor's only leverage, because if it was him alone, then YouTube will just kick him off with all Alex is describing.
That's all everybody wants, but they just can't...
dan friesen
But the thing is that, Alex, instead of doing any kind of organizing, which someone could have done at any point, like get the big creators together to stand up for people who were wronged, or something like that, you could do that easily.
Instead, they just yell about it and talk about Trump needing to take on big tech.
jordan holmes
Take on big tech yourselves!
Put me back on Spotify!
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, it's nonsense.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And granted, I don't know, I don't think you could ever do that.
I don't think it would work with YouTube, because there's so many creators that they don't really, like, Rogan leaving is obviously a hit, but there's other people who get just as many or more views as him.
Like, food videos, like the Bon Appetit videos get millions of views.
pretty much every single thing they put out.
Sure.
unidentified
So YouTube isn't going to be hurting from Rogan leaving.
dan friesen
But if there were a bunch of creators all banded together, maybe it would have some effect.
But I still think it would be tough.
It would be tough to get the amount of leverage that you would need.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
There's too much content.
jordan holmes
And it's, you know, they can make a shit ton of money.
It's kind of like why you can't unionize comics.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Although, I mean, comics is also part of the business.
unidentified
That's more because there's too many scabs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Everyone's a scab.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, on YouTube, everyone's a scab.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true, too.
So, you know.
But idealistically, that's the kind of thing that Alex is describing, but he just would never want to put it in those terms.
jordan holmes
Well, that would be scary.
dan friesen
You need solidarity in order to affect any change against a company that doesn't need you individually.
Is a...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fucking idiot.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Very stupid.
jordan holmes
Very stupid.
dan friesen
Alex thinks that Joe Rogan going to Spotify spells the end of the new world over the world.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
We'll get into all the news and Owen is going to come in and do a great job.
He's got a whole broadcast.
unidentified
Damn.
alex jones
But I had to come in because this was so seismic.
Joe Rogan calling me and saying, I want you to be the one that tells everybody.
What I'm gonna do, because you were part of this story, and I want folks to know that I'm not backing down.
That's what makes free societies.
That's the essence of victory.
That is the beginning of the collapse of the New World Order.
dan friesen
One of the things I gotta say is that, like, Alex better not be lying about what Rogan said.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure he's lying about what Rogan said.
dan friesen
I would assume so.
jordan holmes
It seems, yeah.
dan friesen
But he better not be, because if I were Joe, I would consider this to be a gigantic breach of some kind of trust or friendship.
The idea of, like, hey, I got this giant $100 million deal, and Alex immediately, like, the night of, he went on Robert Barnes' show and talked about it, about how it's all about him, basically, and Joe, like, standing up to the cruel censors of YouTube.
And it's like, if he's going, if Alex is trying to say that he's going to war with YouTube, why, I read an article about this, and his content is still going to be on YouTube.
Until the migration happens.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
When the exclusivity kicks in.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then after that, he's still going to have like 20 minute chunks of his episodes on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Why would he still have that?
jordan holmes
Stepping up to YouTube.
Taking it to him.
dan friesen
If he's going to war with them, why is he going to still have content on there?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you can't go to war.
dan friesen
Makes no sense.
unidentified
Shit's stupid.
dan friesen
Alex is trying to make this all about himself.
And if I were Joe, I would be pissed.
jordan holmes
I would be furious.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Already, like, unless...
Unless this entire conversation is fabricated, the idea that a private conversation would just...
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Alex says that he got permission to talk about all this.
jordan holmes
Well, yes, I understand that.
dan friesen
Joe said that he could do it.
jordan holmes
I understand that.
dan friesen
In this next clip, I think it gets worse, because Alex starts to talk about what Joe said, and if you pay attention, man, he sounds a lot like Alex.
alex jones
It's everything you'd expect.
I mean, it's a bunch of crazy, drugged-out, billionaire lunatics that can spy on anybody they want.
They have more control than the NSA, just playing total God against everybody.
And he was like, you know, I'm number one on all these platforms.
I'm just going to stay like it is.
I'm not going to do the deal.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
alex jones
And then he watched them ban all these epidemiologists and all these doctors and Cedars-Sinai's video about light therapy, and he's just like...
This is beyond the Soviet Union.
This is anti-human.
This isn't just anti-American, Alex.
This is real tyranny.
You're right.
You were right, Alex.
I can't believe there's people like this.
They have billions of dollars.
They want to screw everybody?
And they want to silence people like you, Alex, so they can then lie?
Because I've gone back and looked at what you really said, and it's what you said is not what they say you say.
dan friesen
That sounds a lot like Alex, not Joe.
And I couldn't find the clip of this because of the house issues really getting in my way.
I would have found it if I had the time, probably.
But I specifically remember that there was a clip of Joe Rogan after Alex's last appearance on the show, talking about how Alex lied to him about what he said about Sandy Hook.
He said that he went back and looked at the things Alex said about Sandy Hook.
And Alex had lied to him to his face about what his coverage of Sandy Hook was.
The exact opposite of what Alex is presenting here about Rogan said that I went back and I looked at the things you said and they lied about what you said.
Rogan has said that Alex has lied about them lying about what he said.
jordan holmes
He has to have put a magazine cut out of Joe Rogan's face onto a mirror and that's what he's talking about.
That conversation happened.
dan friesen
I think it's just...
I think that there's an outside chance it's completely made up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it has to be.
dan friesen
I think that there's a chance that they did have a pleasant phone call about, hey, how's it going?
Oh, I just signed this big deal or whatever.
And then Alex is making up all the rest of this.
jordan holmes
This is insane.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is disrespectful in a really gross way.
dan friesen
There's a possibility that Rogan is a prank guy.
Maybe he's like, hey, Alex.
unidentified
Why don't you say these things?
dan friesen
We'll all get press out of it or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I suppose.
dan friesen
Or Alex is just desperately trying to get attention, and this is the way he's doing it, by piggybacking onto Rogan's stuff, which is his normal standard behavior.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he's a psychopath, so he wouldn't really...
It's kind of like I don't think he would try and...
Destroy the relationship too much, just in case.
But at the same time, he would totally sell Rogan out if he was desperate enough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, completely.
dan friesen
I could see it.
Yeah.
Just that.
Maybe they'll get me back on Spotify.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah, get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
So, I mean, what it really gets down to is Owen Troyer takes over on the 21st, and so I turned it off.
But Alex ends his little segment about how you'd expect.
alex jones
Damn!
I don't have a $100 million deal with Spotify, and that's fine.
I have you, the people, getting great products.
But when we bring in $20 million, half that's the cost of the product.
So you've done an incredible job buying the products.
You've done an incredible job funding this operation.
It's not a sales gimmick that I said the sale went in last Sunday, and then I extended it, and I've been so busy I haven't cut new ads.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
I mean, that's really the bottom line.
jordan holmes
Preemptive, yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, he's got a $100 million deal.
I don't.
I need you.
jordan holmes
So Insecure has to justify Something that nobody asked about.
Nobody cared.
Nobody was like, oh, those sales have gone on longer than you said.
Maybe I don't trust Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Hey, look, it's not a sales thing.
jordan holmes
Nobody cares.
dan friesen
I think a lot of this is just trying to attach himself to the story because he knows that it's getting a lot of press and he does know Joe Rogan, so it does seem like there's more heightened credibility to it.
I don't know.
I think it's a load of bullshit and Alex is...
Yeah, he's just probably desperately trying to get attention that he can funnel into his revenue streams.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Stop it.
Okay.
jordan holmes
This is one of the saddest stretches of incompetence and bald stupidity I can think of.
dan friesen
Well, that's probably just because we listened to a bit of Harrison Smith.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that could be.
dan friesen
Who is just a disaster.
He's boring.
He's a nerd.
He's not good at his job.
alex jones
Dan brought up some great points.
dan friesen
Thank you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Goddammit, Dan.
You are a terrorist now.
You are a literal terrorist.
You are attacking me with these clips.
dan friesen
Look, if he has Dan Lyman on and he keeps saying Dan blank, I'm going to have to get those clips.
jordan holmes
I know.
I understand.
I understand.
dan friesen
This is going to be a revolution in our podcast.
jordan holmes
I'm really scared.
dan friesen
Shit.
jordan holmes
I'm really scared that I'm going to be fired and replaced with...
Series of clips of Alex agreeing with you.
dan friesen
You know what I just realized also?
unidentified
What's that?
dan friesen
I forgot to do a report on the year of the seltzer.
I need to get to that.
So, uh, gotta check in here on the year of the seltzer.
jordan holmes
I can't.
I can't.
I'm struggling here.
dan friesen
I'm struggling.
jordan holmes
This has been a barrage.
This has been a barrage of sound drops.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So we are currently sitting at 78 seltzers down.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
We're well ahead.
jordan holmes
Killing it.
You're killing it.
dan friesen
Right.
But it's going to slow down.
There will eventually be a time when...
So I'm looking over this, and I don't remember exactly where we left off, but I'm going to say, look, dude, this is going to be real standard and basic.
But I decided to take a little dip into the Perrier world.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
And I gotta say, quality products.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
There's a reason that they're one of the most ubiquitous seltzer, mineral water fellas.
Because they are, like, it's crisp.
It's just, it's exactly what you want from a seltzer water.
And the flavors are pretty good.
They're not obtrusive.
I put the lime variety at a 70. And the lemon at a 73. It's just consistent.
It's real good.
But I will say the grapefruit wasn't good.
jordan holmes
Not so good?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
What's wrong with the grapefruit?
dan friesen
I don't know.
It tastes musky.
jordan holmes
It tastes musky?
dan friesen
I think I just don't like grapefruit that much.
jordan holmes
You're not a grapefruit guy.
dan friesen
I think I might not be into it.
Passionfruit?
Love it.
jordan holmes
You're a secret passionfruit lover.
dan friesen
Oh, I think I forgot to bring this up.
Two things real quick.
First, I had the La Croix Pamplemousse.
Isn't that grapefruit, too?
jordan holmes
That is grapefruit.
dan friesen
38 out of 100.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's real bad.
You hate grapefruit.
dan friesen
I think I must, yeah.
And then the other one, I hate to say this.
A listener wrote in, Doug, and recommended Fizz and Company.
jordan holmes
Oh, you gotta name him?
You gotta shame him and name him.
dan friesen
I'm giving him a shout-out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Good person, but unfortunately...
So Fizz and Company, they make these sodas that are actually seltzers.
They're soda-flavored.
They have, like, cola, root beer, Dr. Pepper.
Got the root beer one.
And...
jordan holmes
Root beer talk?
18. Ooh!
It is gross.
That made you...
You had to spit it out?
dan friesen
I wanted to, yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Definitely poured out the can.
jordan holmes
Oh, wow.
dan friesen
It was so bad.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
Look, maybe the Dr. Pepper and Cola ones will be better once I find them.
But, man, root beer.
jordan holmes
Trash.
dan friesen
Unacceptable.
jordan holmes
Oh, Doug, I would be real sad if I made a recommendation that got that low a score.
dan friesen
It does not affect how I feel about Doug.
unidentified
Doug, I don't think Dan likes you anymore.
dan friesen
Look, people have different tastes.
I get, you know, cilantro.
jordan holmes
You're just making faces.
You're just mugging to a non-existent podcast camera.
dan friesen
Exactly.
That's the Spotify feed.
jordan holmes
There you go.
We get zero million dollars out of it.
dan friesen
Exactly.
So, we'll be back, Jordan, but until next time, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to bed, Jordan.
unidentified
We are Facebook.
We are Facebook.
jordan holmes
Download the show.
I do rate, leave a Patreon.
And if you would like, please donate to a local charity in your area.
That would be appreciated.
dan friesen
Yes.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Harrison Smith's reading skills.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Alex, I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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