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April 29, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#426: April 27-28, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan keep an eye on the increasingly bizarre present day of the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex speculates that Trump is the smartest person on Earth, and discusses his evolving position on cannibalism.

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alex jones
31:52
d
dan friesen
53:13
j
jordan holmes
20:48
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j
jon bowne
00:01
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mike adams
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
dan friesen
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
Two things come to mind.
jordan holmes
You are tossing out bright spots two at a time.
dan friesen
Sure.
I think I forgot the other one.
It might come to me.
But I'm not one of these guys who likes to...
When I used to work at an office, I used to hear people talk about their birthday week.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
I'm not one of those guys who likes to play that game.
I don't even like to bring up my birthday.
I'm ashamed I have so many times on this podcast.
But over the course of from Friday to Monday of that weekend, 24th through whatever Monday would have been.
On Friday, Andy Daly put out his new album, Four More Sweaters.
And then on Monday, the beginning of his new podcast, Bananas for Bonanza, started.
And it's just like a cornucopia of one of the dudes who I think is one of the funniest people on the planet, all being dropped on my plate over the weekend.
And at the end of the weekend, it was just fantastic.
Really, really nice.
jordan holmes
That's wonderful.
dan friesen
I've been taking a lot of pleasure in...
jordan holmes
I gotta catch up on that.
I still haven't listened to an album.
I know it's gonna be incredible.
I think Andy Daly is one of the absolute funniest people in the fucking planet.
dan friesen
You're showing your cards a little bit by it being Tuesday as we're recording this and you haven't listened to either of those things.
jordan holmes
I am a failure.
It's not my birthday yet.
dan friesen
I definitely have forgot what the other thing was.
And it'll come to me later.
Hopefully, but if not, it'll be on Friday's episode.
jordan holmes
What days?
Tomorrow's going to be Wednesday.
Oh, God.
Days have no meaning.
Dan, my bright spot is personal growth.
I've had to go back and take a look at some of the stuff I and we have done.
dan friesen
You mean our show, not like adventure?
jordan holmes
I've watched other stuff, old stand-up.
My partner, we've done the whole...
dan friesen
There's a lot of time for reflection.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
And I am proud to say I used to be a giant shitbag, and now I am slightly less of a giant shitbag.
And that's personal growth.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's great.
That is a bright spot.
I think taking a little bit of time to recognize...
It's that thing they talk about.
You know, you don't really see gradual things as they're happening.
But when you look back, it's like, oh my god, there's a lot of difference between a couple years ago and now.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
Day to day, it might feel like, eh, nothing's really changing.
But it does.
You know, you've got to take a step back every now and again.
That's great.
jordan holmes
And not just that, but I would say in the past two years, I've grown and changed more than I have.
You know, from 30 to 32 was a huge chasm.
But from like 23 to 30...
dan friesen
Not much.
jordan holmes
Basically the same.
Just a giant shit bag.
dan friesen
And what I would say about that is you're welcome.
jordan holmes
I'm going to thank our fans more than you, sir.
dan friesen
That's probably fair.
Probably fair.
Very nice people.
Wonderful people.
jordan holmes
Brilliant people.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we're going over April 27th and 28th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
That's Monday and Tuesday of this week.
Oh, that's right.
This was my other bright spot.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
The April 28th episode of Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Today's episode is a bright spot.
dan friesen
Very rare.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And we're not going to get to it until, you know, towards the end of this episode.
But I promise you, unheard of levels of nonsense coming out of his mouth.
I can't overhype this.
unidentified
It's one of the most silly, stupid fucking things I've ever heard in my life.
dan friesen
And I'm so excited to get to it.
jordan holmes
I'm so excited.
dan friesen
And we will.
But before we get down to business on that, we have to take a moment to say thank you to some of these wonderful people who have signed up and are supporting the show.
And also...
Check in on the year of the seltzer.
jordan holmes
Wonderful.
dan friesen
So first, Paul, thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Next, Craig with a K. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, K-Reg.
dan friesen
Thanks, Craig.
Next, you know what I was thinking, is that's what Craig would be if he was a villain in Donkey Kong Country.
You know, King K. Rool, all the bad guys.
jordan holmes
Oh, I got it.
dan friesen
Next, Reagan, who is nothing like her namesake.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Reagan.
Never thought I'd say that in my life.
dan friesen
Next, Bad Wolf Y-E-G.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Bad Wolf Y-E-G.
That one I did expect to say.
dan friesen
Next, Strex.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Strex.
dan friesen
Thanks, Strex.
Next, James.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, James.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Finn.
I like that name a lot.
F-I-N-N.
It's a good name.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Finn.
dan friesen
Next, Carrie.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Carrie.
dan friesen
Thank you, Carrie.
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level.
And I gotta say, generosity above even what I, you know...
We would classify in the technocrat category.
We gotta go Raptor Princess on this one.
jordan holmes
Straight up.
dan friesen
And I gotta say, also, I probably would have maybe got to this on the last episode or maybe the episode before that, but I can't find the Raptor Princess sound effect.
jordan holmes
You still can't find the drop?
Oh, no!
dan friesen
I looked all over the place and I can't find it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And thank you to this individual, this person.
I've created a new Raptor Princess sound drop.
So thank you so much, the Armor of Contempt.
You are now a Raptor Princess.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
I'll barbecue your ass.
mike adams
It's over for humanity.
alex jones
You're a beautiful soul.
They're coming for your balls.
A lot of piss all over your god.
unidentified
You make it a practice of calling people pieces of garbage?
alex jones
When they are.
unidentified
Thank you so much, the armor of contempt.
dan friesen
We appreciate it.
I wanted to try and mix it up with some of these side characters in the drop.
So, a lot of non-Alex voices there.
I like it.
jordan holmes
Got a little scatological for a while.
dan friesen
I did notice that trend, yes.
Well, when I'm digging from, like, more recent clips, it seems like Alex is talking about piss and poo a lot more lately.
jordan holmes
It does seem like that, yes.
dan friesen
So, thank you very much.
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it.
Or you can go and find a local charity in your area.
And help people in need.
That would also be wonderful.
jordan holmes
We would appreciate either.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Jordan, now it's time to check in with the year of the seltzer.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
We are up to 19 seltzers.
unidentified
Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
As of the time of recording.
We are ahead of schedule on the 500.
unidentified
19 seltzers?
jordan holmes
Where are you even finding this shit?
dan friesen
Well, that's an interesting question.
I'm glad you brought it up.
jordan holmes
I walked into that one.
That one's on me.
dan friesen
Some people have raised a concern about how expensive this might end up getting.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I want to make people feel a little bit more comfortable about that.
For one thing, a couple of family members gave me Amazon gift cards for my birthday.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so a number of variety packs are available online on Amazon.
So it's basically free.
jordan holmes
Do not use them on May 1st.
Do not cross the picket line.
Anyways.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Amazon, don't cross the picket line on May 1st.
dan friesen
Fine.
I will not do that.
jordan holmes
Don't do it on May 1st.
dan friesen
Thank you for giving me the heads up.
jordan holmes
You are welcome.
dan friesen
The other thing is that there's a bunch of grocery stores here in Chicago and corner stores.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And a lot of them have Lucy's.
They have individual cans of seltzer that are often like between 60 cents or a dollar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so I've been able to find a ton of these that I've been drinking and are still in the fridge.
You don't have to buy a 12-pack of them.
Most of them, I don't necessarily want a 12-pack of a Limoncello.
jordan holmes
I might buy another 12-pack.
You like the Limoncello.
dan friesen
That one's fantastic.
So this is not going to end up probably being too devastating.
I've been going to...
When I go to Juul to go get some groceries, I go through every aisle.
You'd be surprised.
There are beverages in more aisles than you think.
That's one thing I've realized.
All over the place.
jordan holmes
They hide them.
dan friesen
So today, Jordan.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
What's our highlight for today?
dan friesen
Well, can't all be good news.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Sometimes you've got to give a low light.
jordan holmes
We've got a low light, huh?
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
I've got to say, this week so far has been a marked disappointment.
About the brand by BAI.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They have a line of...
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
They're garbage.
dan friesen
Well, not all of them.
unidentified
I'm going to say...
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
I had their watermelon lime, and I gave it a 68. Okay.
That's good.
That's good.
It's not like the line of them is trash.
Sure.
unidentified
However...
dan friesen
I did try the coconut lime.
jordan holmes
Gross!
Do not.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
New lows for our rating system.
16 out of 100.
jordan holmes
Oh, damn!
Damn!
Damn!
dan friesen
If it's under 20, that means I didn't finish it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
If it's under 10, that means I find it repulsive.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I wish it burned.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
You pissed on it, if you will, in Alex's terms.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I'm starting to realize that anything in, like, the 60s is going to be just, like, good, but who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
70 is going to be, you know, 70 to 80. That range is going to be, like, aha!
Anything over 80. It's excellent territory.
I am anxiously awaiting the day we get over 80. Or over 90. I don't know if it'll happen, but I'm ready for it to happen.
So anyway, all due respect to buy, I know you can do some good stuff, but that coconut lime was a disaster.
And we'll see.
jordan holmes
Coconut's a bad flavor.
I'm going to take that stand.
dan friesen
I don't think anything that has coconut is going to...
And I like coconut.
I love amounts.
Sometimes when I feel like a nut, I like an Almond Joy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm not one of these anti-coconut guys, but a man in a drink, terrible.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Terrible.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, this has been the year of the Seltzer Report.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So let's get down to business on this episode.
We're starting here on the 27th, April 27th, Monday.
And it starts out with Alex having a pre-recorded message that he wants to send to the New World Order.
alex jones
But here is my message to the New World Order.
unidentified
Think you can really be a gangster, huh?
alex jones
You got what it takes, huh?
Roll the big boys.
unidentified
I'm good.
alex jones
The other left sees me as Godzilla wrapped in Darth Vader.
And that's because they believe their own propaganda.
All I'm doing is exposing the horrible assy things they're involved in.
And so the devastation that that exposure causes them, they attribute to me when they're the ones that committed these incredible crimes.
And so now they tell me, we're going to kill your ass or put you in prison.
And they're trying right now.
And I'm just like, okay, you'll still be losers.
Led by the Crypt Keeper, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary and all these other insane weirdos.
And Gigi Ping.
And we're in martial law with all the forced inoculations with the evil elf Bill Gates hopping around giving speeches about depopulation and I'm supposed to trust him wanting to give me a vaccine?
Okay, fine.
You can destroy Alex Jones.
unidentified
But all you'll do is water the Tree of Liberty.
alex jones
But that is what Thomas Jefferson said.
It's got to be water with the blood of patriots like Colonel William Barrett Travis.
dan friesen
Almost forgot his name.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
You can do two takes.
alex jones
The thing about watering trees with Patriot's blood is it just seems to create a harvest of blood for tyrants.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
That's why, in the final equation, I'm not worried because I'm right where I'm supposed to be.
Opposing you.
So for myself, the rest are for humanity.
To all you globalists, you're losers.
You're gonna fail.
Humanity's awakening.
And you're going to burn it out.
dan friesen
I have a feeling that might be his recorded last episode that he was talking about on our last episode.
I don't like it.
It feels like that's just like something to be played like in perpetuity.
Yeah.
unidentified
You know, to rile the troops.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
My blood is on the tree of liberty.
jordan holmes
I'm a patriot.
Now it's time to add the tyrant's blood.
But apparently I'm going to forget how that quote goes and just say that tyrants lap up the blood from the tree.
dan friesen
There's a harvest.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I kind of feel like that's his salvo or whatever.
I don't know.
But otherwise, it's just like a weird shoot promo about nothing.
jordan holmes
You can do two takes.
dan friesen
That is...
jordan holmes
You can do two takes.
dan friesen
No.
No, you can't.
jordan holmes
No, you could.
dan friesen
It's pre-recorded.
Alex gets paid by the fucking hour.
Or he doesn't get paid by the hour.
unidentified
Excuse me.
dan friesen
He's getting in, he's getting out.
So we get down to actual content, and Alex has a little bit of a narrative here.
This runs throughout both of the days of his show, and it's just stupid.
It's just a desperate attempt to try and make it look like Trump isn't an idiot.
alex jones
It came out that Senior Sinai, one of the most respected hospitals in the world, definitely in the top five, is doing light therapy and knocking out COVID-19, snaking tubes down into the lungs with fiber optics.
Their Twitter has been banned, and their YouTube has been banned.
dan friesen
So Cedar Sinai's Twitter page is still up.
I just checked it this morning.
The same is true of their YouTube channel.
I have no idea what he's talking about.
But what I think it is, is there is some information that is true.
It's probably being misrepresented by right-wing outlets, and those tweets maybe are getting blocked.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
I think that's possible.
jordan holmes
The ones where they take what Sinai did, and then go like, see, you can use UV-Late on the inside and inject it with, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So the light therapy thing, that's where there is a little bit of truth.
But it's also being super overblown by Alex because, like I said, he's trying to find anything he can to make Trump's comments look like something other than the babblings of an idiot.
According to Nurse.org, there's some research going on at Cedars-Sinai that involves a technology called Helite, which, quote, delivers intermittent ultraviolet A light through an endotracheal catheter.
Yeah.
Researchers there are working on this technology and they're following appropriate guidelines for that kind of thing.
And it's worth noting that they've been working on this project since at least 2016.
So it's not something that's being developed in response to the coronavirus.
It's some research that's somewhere in the middle of the process and we'll see where it goes from there.
Alex wants you to think that they're getting banned from social media because that makes it appear that the globalists are totally losing control.
They have to ban this totally legitimate and credible hospital from social media because they're saying something that bucks the narrative.
But none of that's real.
It's all just bullshit.
jordan holmes
I imagine their statement would have been had they been allowed to drop all the facts.
It's just like, God, we wish we didn't have to deal with this.
The president just said some bullshit.
We're researching.
We're not.
Why are you guys screaming at us?
Don't use us for anything.
We're just putting shit in mice.
I don't know what to tell you.
dan friesen
Leave us out of this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So Alex is going to lay it all out, man.
He's going to get down to just the bare bottom.
unidentified
Again?
dan friesen
Yeah, he's going to lay it all out.
jordan holmes
Is that this?
dan friesen
I don't know if it's it.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
I'm just going to lay this out right now.
jordan holmes
What is this?
alex jones
Because it needs to be done.
And I can explain to the viewers and listeners one of the reasons you see Infowars demonize and attack so much and how we know President Trump's for real and the fact that he's for real is one of his great strengths.
That's also one of his weaknesses because he's not a swamp creature.
So let me try to explain this from my own.
100% documented spectrum right now.
You know, I'll go to rebroadcast.
You son of a bitch!
unidentified
You son of a bitch!
God, help us.
alex jones
God, help us.
So incredibly obvious how the criminals have taken over and what they've launched and what they've done.
dan friesen
This is pretty early in the show.
jordan holmes
Man, I knew he wasn't going to get to it.
dan friesen
Of course not.
jordan holmes
I knew he wasn't going to get to it, but the timing still got me.
He still got the right timing.
dan friesen
It's like a master...
What's the opposite of an orator?
The opposite of that.
That's what he's a master of.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
God damn.
So he does end up going to rebroadcast.
But before that, he does drop one little piece of what I would call a narrative.
Just sort of rambling along through before he goes off air.
alex jones
Just the magnitude of USA Today having to admit, okay, it's true.
Now they make you read four pages until they get to the part.
jordan holmes
Those bastards.
Making you read four pages.
alex jones
Fact check.
Hospitals get paid more inpatients listed as COVID-19 on ventilators.
And then it says, Snopes says it's not true.
Snopes in Media Matters are God.
But they explain how it's reasonable for three more pages that, yes, they get way more money if somebody has COVID-19.
dan friesen
It's really funny when Alex says they make you read four pages, like that's some kind of undue burden being put on his plate.
He's supposed to be this deeply competent researcher.
He's supposed to have read a thousand books about World War II.
Four pages is nothing, particularly when there's nuance to the issue that takes a couple paragraphs to explain.
I can say pretty comfortably that Alex did not read those four pages.
The article on USA Today doesn't say that Snopes said that this...
The only two points Snopes is even mentioned are using Snopes as a citation because they reported that a meme about this issue was, quote, shared on social media in mid-April.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then later in the article, Snopes comes up again in this line, quote, Snopes investigated the claim, finding it's plausible Medicare pays in the range Jensen, the guy who was on Fox News talking about this, mentioned, but doesn't have a one-size-fits-all payment to hospitals for COVID-19 patients.
So nowhere in the article does it say that Snopes said that this wasn't true.
Alex is making that up because he wants to make it look like Snopes was lying in their fact check.
This fact check is actually less detailed than others that I've read, but it does cover the important point, which is explaining the part of this conspiracy theory that is real.
Hospitals do get paid more by Medicare for patients who are treated for COVID-19.
There's a 20% increase in payments that are dispensed by Medicare, which was established by the CARES Act, which Trump signed into law recently.
So Trump did this.
The reason for the 20% bump is that hospitals are seeing a massive drop in revenues right now, as people who have other issues that might have sent them to go get checked out, they're delaying being seen or they're just toughing it out due to the virus.
The increase of 20% is meant to offset the decreases they're seeing in normal operating funds, not to line anyone's pockets.
This is pretty clear in the USA Today article.
Quote, Hospitals and doctors do get paid more for Medicare patients to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting from a shift of focus to treating COVID-19 cases.
That's at the end of the article, though.
So Alex would have had to make it through four very difficult pages to get there.
Can't expect him to put in that sort of effort.
jordan holmes
Backbreaking labor.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So Alex then goes to rebroadcast.
jordan holmes
It's funny to me because what he's saying there is they make you read four pages to get to this part.
It's just basically saying like, they make me ignore all the context that proves the part wrong that I want to lie about.
God damn it!
dan friesen
Yeah, it doesn't matter because he's only read the headline anyway.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
He just noted that there's length to this.
jordan holmes
He's just admitting that all that context is to explain why he's wrong.
Right.
And so he can't, yeah.
dan friesen
Ignore it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to rebroadcast, then he comes back, and he's sort of rambling about how Trump listens to everybody, and, you know, he's good.
He's good.
You give him the right intel, and he's going to act.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
alex jones
Trump didn't know that a Nobel Prize winner, arguably the top virologist in the world, had the virus scanned and said, yes, it's completely manufactured in the lab.
Trump didn't know that the top Indian university scanned it and said the same thing three months ago.
Two and a half months ago.
It's 11 weeks ago.
And it's not because smart people aren't around him.
They're all scared.
Because if you bring Trump real intel on who runs things, like General Flynn did, the former head of defense intelligence, a whole group of patriots ready to come in and fix the country.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
alex jones
Actual Americans, the military.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Do you know what's going on and help put Trump in with the American people?
jordan holmes
The military helped put Trump in?
dan friesen
Who is this?
jordan holmes
Are we okay with this?
unidentified
Are we okay with this?
alex jones
If we're going to put something up there about the Nobel laureate, just put in, Nobel Prize winner for virology says COVID-19 100% man-made.
That's the article I want to put up if we do that.
unidentified
Now...
alex jones
I'm going to go to rebroadcast until next hour.
I have to restart.
It's not the crew's fault.
They normally put up things, they just randomly search for what I'm saying and they throw stuff up.
But today, they haven't understood that, that I've said, just stop with it.
So we're going to go to rebroadcast.
It's okay.
I may not come back.
I may come back tomorrow.
I just can't do it anymore.
This is too damn serious, folks.
This is the end of the whole country, the end of everything, okay?
This isn't a game, alright?
And I'm not just going to put this out half-ass and train wreck it, okay?
Okay, I'll tell you what to air.
I'll tell you, there's so many incredible reports we've been putting out.
dan friesen
I'm not going to half-ass it and train wreck this thing.
I'm going to go off air again.
jordan holmes
Second time!
dan friesen
In like the first hour of the show.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
He blindsided me again!
God damn it!
How many times does he leave on this show?
dan friesen
You never expect him to leave multiple times during his own show.
jordan holmes
You're working.
dan friesen
So he has a suggestion of a broadcast, like a rebroadcast special report thing for them to play.
But unfortunately, the crew can't find it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Who works there?
unidentified
I don't know.
alex jones
When you got that, let me know.
And I may not be back today.
It's not a big deal.
These are two serious of times.
unidentified
Oh my God.
alex jones
Just give me yesterday's list if I can tell you which clip it is.
We'll do this.
We'll just do this.
I'll tell you something else to air.
It's fine.
The report's so powerful it says it all.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
Let's air John Bound's report.
Let's air that latest John Bound report about the New World Order plan to destroy America.
I'll see you guys.
jon bowne
You are a globalist.
dan friesen
I'll see you guys.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
unidentified
That's...
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
See you in hell, asshole.
dan friesen
Second time saying I might not be back.
That's a guy who's committed.
jordan holmes
I think he's doing great.
dan friesen
So he leaves and he comes back and he wants to talk to you about the stakes of what's going on.
And so it's basically like he's going to prison.
alex jones
Roger Stone advised the president, gave him good advice.
He's facing prison.
General Flynn advised the president, gave him good advice.
He's facing prison.
I gave the president good advice.
I'm facing...
Same thing right now, okay?
It'll be out soon.
That's how this works, and these people target you, and they let you know, and they operate with impunity, folks, because the government is so full of cowards and social climbers.
dan friesen
So, I was wondering about this, and I don't know of any crimes that Alex has committed outside of him bragging about murdering people.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
But I don't think that's true.
jordan holmes
There's no statute of limitations.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
But I don't think that's true.
I think he's bragging about something he didn't do.
jordan holmes
Most likely.
dan friesen
Because he's a monster.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I was starting to think about this.
You know, he has this lingering case with the bankruptcy issue that his ex-wife is bringing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And who knows what's going to happen with that.
But I started to think about it.
And I realized that one of the things that she's doing is she's asking for a lot of documents in terms of discovery for the kids.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
And one of the things that I'm thinking might be what Alex is worried about is not necessarily losing that case and having to pay her off.
Right.
unidentified
But the idea that a lot of his internal financial documents will become public information.
dan friesen
So what if he's like hiding money somewhere?
What if he is doing something criminal financially that's just you'd never know unless you see these documents?
I don't know if that's true, but I'm just trying to think of what could he be worried about?
I mean, it has to be something business-related, right?
I mean, it's...
jordan holmes
I think what he should do is, in the discovery, instead of sending any documents, he just gives them Rob Do.
And just, like, you ask him all the questions that you want to know the answers to.
dan friesen
This guy knows everything.
jordan holmes
This guy has got it for you.
He's got the receipts.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be a good stalling tactic.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
Alex thinks he's going to prison soon, which I don't believe.
I don't think that's true.
But if it is, it's got to be something financial related.
Like, I can't imagine anything else.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't believe he's murdered people.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I don't know of any other charges that are pending.
I mean, he got the DUI.
He's not going to prison for that.
jordan holmes
You don't think so?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, maybe there's something related to that that could be.
dan friesen
I can't think of anything.
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I think it has to be something financial, but...
jordan holmes
Either that or he's just making up the whole prison thing.
dan friesen
That could be true, too.
jordan holmes
Because he wants to try and compare himself to Roger Stone and Flynn, which, really, really...
dan friesen
They're people he looks at as heroes.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talking some more, and he's just not having a good day, man.
alex jones
Let me do this.
I'm going to regroup, because I was so loaded for Bear.
We did a great job the first 30 minutes, then I went sideways.
We've been hearing some incredible reports, though.
jordan holmes
Are you going to rebroadcast again?
alex jones
The same report.
In the same hour.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
But I might do it right now.
This John Bound report is as good as anything I've ever seen.
It's so dead on.
dan friesen
This John Bound report is so good, we're going to play it again.
I've got to get off there.
Fuck this.
jordan holmes
Does he work there anymore?
dan friesen
You know what they called it back when I was in high school?
They called it senioritis.
jordan holmes
I was thinking that on our last episode.
I was like, that's what he's dealing with right now.
He's like, I know I'm done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I just don't know why I'm running hard to the finish line.
dan friesen
Can I ask you a favor?
Can you open those blinds up?
I just saw some lightning, and I think we've got a thunderstorm going on right now, and I would like to be able to enjoy it a little bit as we record.
It gives a nice mood.
jordan holmes
There is a little bit of a dark and stormy mood to Alex's circumstance.
dan friesen
I always like to enjoy a thunderstorm when we have...
When you have one brewing.
jordan holmes
Good thunderstorms.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Sure.
So Alex is going to go to this John Bound report.
Getting off air for the third time in an hour.
jordan holmes
That's amazing.
dan friesen
Just like this dude cannot handle his business.
But just because he can't handle doing his job, that doesn't mean he can't sell food.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
I am grieving every millisecond right now.
And I've never been guilty I had children.
Because I knew that it's double down on things.
Trust in God.
And I do trust in God, but I just look at how many truly evil people there are, and it just blows my mind that our species is so turned over to destructive impulses.
jordan holmes
You got a DUI, bro.
alex jones
I'm going to do this now because I've got to worry about the future and keeping us here on air.
Plus, we've got products you really need.
If you don't get storable food now, you're completely insane.
dan friesen
You're nuts!
Yeah, so, I mean, like, pretty severe talk, and then these ads.
And I gotta say, I mean, like, the ads on this episode are just pretty fucking severe.
alex jones
And so, the fight beside of me wants to stay in place, stay on air, and fight this, and I don't think it's a lost cause yet, but I'm just here to tell you, I've never personally been making a lot of defensive measures.
I am now.
And having to really understand the long, dark winters probably coming, like I did for those babies that got chopped up in their mothers.
Wait, what?
It's just so damn sad that we had a chance to turn this around.
We may just be so weak that all hell is going to break loose.
And the very criminals that launch it will be our saviors and then come hunt us down and inject us with bioweapons and laugh at us while we slowly die.
But again, Infowarsstore.com.
Get your storable food now while you still can.
Wow.
dan friesen
It's pretty severe.
jordan holmes
Mr. Clean had that one ad where he chopped up babies and he was like, this is the only way to clean up after this.
dan friesen
Magic eraser.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
I mean, it's pretty extreme language being used in service of trying to sell food buckets.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the other thing that runs throughout this episode is a very strong interest in presenting Trump as like...
Really the man of the people?
Like, he loves you.
jordan holmes
God, they just can't say for one second, guys, we fucked up on this one.
dan friesen
Well, Alex can't.
jordan holmes
We thought we could control him.
We thought we could do what he needed to do.
dan friesen
Alex can't because there's so much messianic stuff that he's attached to it.
And so many times he talks about having visions about this and how he's a psychic and all this shit.
He can't be wrong about this, because if he's wrong about it, then all that stuff looks like total bullshit.
jordan holmes
It's too big to be wrong about.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's too big to fail, his narratives.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So he's going down with the ship.
And, you know, that involves doing a lot of dear leader shit, talking about how, like, you know, Trump, what he does, like, this is nonsensical.
alex jones
Because, you see, the globalists are scared.
Trump's really the president.
So he gets briefings, he has a secret service go around the rallies with boxes of what people hand them, and he demands it.
On overseas flights, sometimes 15 hours to, say, Japan?
From D.C.?
And he just reads it, reads it, reads it, reads it, reads it.
And they cannot stand it.
dan friesen
They can't stand that Trump has the Secret Service go around and get letters from the commoners at the rallies.
jordan holmes
USA Today made him read four pages, Dan.
Are you shitting me?
Four pages?
dan friesen
By the way, it didn't make him read four pages.
unidentified
It suggested he read four pages.
dan friesen
Yeah, but not Trump, man.
jordan holmes
It only took him 15 hours.
dan friesen
He gets on all these flights, and he insists that the Secret Service bring him all the mail that they collect at the rallies, and he just sits there and he reads them.
jordan holmes
If he can read, I would be...
One, I think he would need to use reading glasses, and he can't do that.
So I don't think he can read anymore.
I genuinely kind of don't think he can.
dan friesen
I don't want to speculate on whether he can or not.
I'm going to say he's unwilling to.
jordan holmes
At the very least.
dan friesen
But Trump, man, he reads.
Not just on planes.
Not just on planes.
Is he reading your letters?
Because, you know, like...
The whole joke with people is like, I wouldn't watch that, but I'd watch it on a plane.
So like Trump's stuck on the plane.
Maybe read your mail because he's fucking bored.
He needs an endorphin rush.
It's not just on planes.
alex jones
Trump is like Superman.
He's at the White House.
He makes them bring him pallets of mail from the warehouse down the road.
And they think he's insane.
And he goes in at night and just reads it.
And I mean, this guy's something special, folks.
jordan holmes
I am the knight.
alex jones
I am mailman.
Trump's had the Secret Service call me, okay?
I mean, it's not about me acting.
Why do they want to kill me, folks?
Because I represent you.
I'm just like you.
I've just got a bigger connection with the president.
dan friesen
This is fucked up.
jordan holmes
Trump's had the Secret Service call me.
Alex, excuse me.
Secret Service.
Could you leave us alone?
Please.
Please stop.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex.
jordan holmes
Just leave us alone.
unidentified
Chill.
jordan holmes
Yeah, calm it down, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Trump reads all your mail on plane rides, and then at night, he's sitting there just reading mail, and they think he's crazy.
This guy's special.
jordan holmes
That is still crazy!
dan friesen
It's a little much.
So Alex comes back from the break and he starts talking about some Bible stuff.
And we know that Alex is really big into religion, big into Christianity.
jordan holmes
Interdimensional beings.
dan friesen
Although he does say something here that makes me think I don't know if he knows much about the Bible.
alex jones
What did the book of Jose say?
4-6.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what now?
alex jones
King James Version.
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee.
That thou shalt be no priest to me, seeing thou hast forgotten the law of God, I will also forget thy children.
So for me, it's not a power trip that the president has people listening to the show every day, a whole team of people.
It's not a power trip that when he gets information from me, he particularly goes and looks it up.
It's a responsibility.
dan friesen
That took a turn from the Bible verse.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Book of Hosea?
dan friesen
I don't want to be a dick about this because, honestly, Alex is close on the pronunciation.
He said the book of Hosea, but it's the book of Hosea.
I know that's close, but it's super far off for anyone who has any familiarity with the Bible.
I don't believe that anyone who's read the Bible or has been involved in any church with any regularity would not know how to pronounce the name of the book Hosea.
It's just unbelievable to me that someone with any real history with the Bible would encounter that word and think it might be Jose.
This, along with all the other things that Alex does, makes me suspect that his connection with the Bible might actually be superficial.
jordan holmes
Or maybe he appreciates Mexican people more than we thought.
dan friesen
No, I just don't think...
jordan holmes
He's putting them in the Bible now!
dan friesen
I think he's completely unfamiliar with the actual Bible.
jordan holmes
No idea.
dan friesen
Little things like that just keep coming up of like, what are you doing?
jordan holmes
Oral tradition is what will save us, Dan.
Not the written Bible.
God can change the written Bible, but he can't change our words.
What?
Something like that?
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Book of Jose.
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So, earlier in the show, Alex was freaking out a little bit.
You might have noticed that.
jordan holmes
I didn't.
He wasn't on the show.
dan friesen
Right before he wasn't on the show, he was on the show.
jordan holmes
I don't remember him being on the show.
I'm going to be honest with you.
dan friesen
In his next clip, he kind of explains why he was freaking out.
And it's because Trump relies on him for information.
alex jones
I've never in 26 years on air not been able to go out and lay out what I know because there's just so much.
It's like, where do you start?
Well, you've got limited time.
What do you say?
I know.
The president probably only has time to watch five minutes of what I say a day that's boiled down.
And if I say to message the president, they mark that down and give it to him.
And it's not that I'm choking because I'm not even nervous.
It's more like, my God, this is actually a real president surrounded by criminals and he has to get information from me?
And then I just...
I feel guilty that I haven't done a better job.
dan friesen
You should.
So yeah, you're picking up what he's saying there?
jordan holmes
Here's the way I'm interpreting that.
Much like the Bible, it is open to interpretation.
dan friesen
And the Constitution.
jordan holmes
What I hear is, if I say drink bleach and Trump says it, people are going to think I'm influencing the president to say I drink bleach.
If I disagree with drinking bleach...
I'm gonna lose the support of all my wacko friends who would rather Trump drink bleach than anything else.
So he's caught in a catch-22 of...
I don't want people to drink bleach, but somehow that's a controversial thing to say in my world right now.
dan friesen
That's an interesting reading of it.
I have a slightly different reading.
And that is like, hey, I can't do my show because of the immense pressure because I know Trump is getting his information from me.
And that's why I was freaking out earlier because I'm not doing a good enough job.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because I know that Trump has a team listening to my show.
And whenever I say this is a message for the president, they cut it out and they give it to Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is the same thing with Steve Pachanek thinking the newspaper's talking to him.
jordan holmes
No, for sure.
dan friesen
Like, honestly, this is just cuckoos.
Cuckoo stuff.
jordan holmes
I mean, it would be if it weren't for the fact that Trump said, let's drink bleach.
dan friesen
But Alex doesn't say that.
jordan holmes
In which case, it does feel like the TV's talking to you.
dan friesen
That's more of a QAnon thing.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, totally.
But that feels more like the TV's talking to you than it ever has before, I would imagine.
Like, if the president is saying wacko shit like what you're talking about.
dan friesen
If you're a QAnon person, if you're like Jordan Sather, then yes.
Something like that, but...
With Alex, he's not really on that tip, necessarily.
I don't hear him push drinking bleach or the bleach people.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Maybe he's resentful.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because Alex hasn't even...
He's pretending that all Trump was saying is sunlight is good for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So he's not even rebutting the part about injectable disinfectants.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it's all just a rationalization for why he left the show three times earlier.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
As he said, the show went sideways.
jordan holmes
It's not because he's too important.
That I will say.
dan friesen
Well, that's what he thinks.
jordan holmes
Definitively.
dan friesen
So Alex gets real doomy in this next clip.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he's just like, well, this is over.
alex jones
Well, I'm not going to sit here and take it.
So remember, I've got their plan.
They hate it.
I advise the president.
They can't stop us.
And long after I'm shuffled in my grave, you can save this on a memory stick.
So when they're killing you, you can get this out.
There's still time to stop them in the future.
Only in the future.
We lost this round.
dan friesen
We've lost this round.
We can only stop them in the future.
That's pretty much like, well, we're fucked.
jordan holmes
Come with me if you want to die.
dan friesen
In the short term.
jordan holmes
In the short term.
We'll get it later.
Time travel and whatnot.
dan friesen
On the 27th, there isn't a lot of really good stuff going on, but trust me, it makes up for it in bucketfuls.
Food bucketfuls on the 28th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But this is really, there's really just like, I was listening to this, and most of the time on the 27th, I was just thinking, you asshole.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this clip is one of the times that I had that response.
alex jones
President Trump is not an idiot savant.
jordan holmes
He's an idiot.
alex jones
He is a genius savant.
But he does have savant-like characteristics.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
He learns things very, very quickly.
He takes in all information.
But sometimes he seems disconnected from the general public because they're not at that level.
A person who is highly knowledgeable about one subject but knows little about anything else.
So I would call him a full-spectrum savant.
But it looks like when you're talking to Trump that he's not listening to you.
But that's not what he's doing.
He's accessing his full subconscious mind.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
alex jones
Trump is probably the smartest person on the planet.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
This is sad.
This is...
Wow.
Look, when you say he did some dear leader type shit, I'm thinking he's doing some dear leader type shit.
Not literally.
dan friesen
Trump's probably the smartest person in the world.
jordan holmes
He's our god king?
That's what he said.
dan friesen
I mean, he has infinite wisdom.
You know how idiot savants, they know one thing?
He's a savant, but for everything.
jordan holmes
Why have words?
Why have them?
dan friesen
And when it appears that he's rude, when he's being rude to people, or maybe it looks like he's not paying attention, it's just because he's so much smarter.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
It's not because he has the attention span of a mouse.
It is because he is a genius.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
That's sad.
That was so sad.
That was very upsetting.
jordan holmes
That is so sad.
I can't imagine listening to myself say something like that and then surviving it.
That's serial.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm dead.
So Alex has some breaking news that he wants to get to, and also, I don't know if you still have your bingo card, but we might find out that another movie is real.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Look at this little juicy that just broke.
jordan holmes
Don't say it like that.
alex jones
There's a special report I'm about to play from the movie Contagion, where the bad guy warns everybody the vaccine's tainted and he sells supplements so he causes the earth to die.
And you see the lockdown cities and all the precursors and the conditioning.
dan friesen
So not only is Contagion real, it's about Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
So he's got this breaking news that's a juicy...
jordan holmes
I really didn't like him doing that.
That really bummed me out.
dan friesen
You don't like hearing about the new juicy?
jordan holmes
That really bummed me out.
dan friesen
Well, here's what the story is.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
U.S. says we'll not take part in WHO drug trials vaccine initiative launch, which we know is going to have COVID-19 in it.
Reuters, the United States, after China already hit us with contaminated tests, will not take part in launching the global initiative on Friday to speed the development, production, and distribution of drugs and vaccines against COVID-19.
A spokesperson for the U.S. mission in Geneva told Reuters.
dan friesen
Alex is editorializing pretty heavily when he was appearing to be reading a quote.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is no longer a piece of juicy.
I will tell you that right now.
dan friesen
And also, the underlying story here is insanely bad news.
Alex is presenting it as Trump being too smart to get caught up in this evil vaccine work, but in reality, what it demonstrates is a really scary level of isolation we're taking on.
Also, this news didn't just break.
The Guardian reported on this story on April 24th, three days before the episode Alex is doing, where he's calling this a breaking, juicy piece of news.
What happened is that global leaders got together on a video call and, quote, pledged to accelerate cooperation on a coronavirus vaccine.
But that's not all.
It was also about sharing research, and as The Guardian reported, Because Trump has shown such outright hostility to the WHO, he couldn't take part in this meeting without giving an implied endorsement of them, which he's too much of a baby to do.
And so, the supposed leader of the free world, the head of the world's great superpower, turned his back on an international pledge to make sure the developing world is not left behind because they can't afford to pursue the level of medical research that we can.
Fuck all this, and fuck Alex for celebrating it.
This is stupid.
jordan holmes
It is very much...
Man, it's like...
He's turning America into the shithole that he thinks other people...
Other places are in order to justify America being...
I'm flabbergasted that...
dan friesen
It's hard to get your head around.
jordan holmes
I can't.
I can't.
There are no adults and we're all stupid.
We're all just fucking stupid.
It's tragic.
dan friesen
It's very tragic.
But if there's a saving grace, it's the knowing that Alex's days on air are clearly numbered based on how frequently he keeps talking about how this shit's over.
alex jones
WHO, that's the Scientific Satanic Eugenics Dictatorship, goes down to gates, eugenics groups, all of them.
I mean, I personally talked to some very high-level people, and I told them all of this just days ago, over the phone.
Now, you can imagine what they do.
Target right on me.
But see, that's a two-way street, the target, the cross.
I'm in God's hands now.
I just want listeners to know that if I get obliterated very, very soon, it's okay.
Very, very soon.
I didn't understand Trump didn't have any advisors telling him this.
I never knew my real power was not even talking to the general public, which is a big one.
When I actually tried to communicate with the president, it was like the ship's going kind of like this.
I was telling the crew, like, is this like The Running Man?
Or not The Running Man, is this like, what's that movie?
Total Recall, where you plug into the Matrix and you're saving Mars, but really it's all hallucination.
dan friesen
Cool, man.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the end is very, very soon if I get obliterated.
jordan holmes
Three breasts.
dan friesen
Huh?
What?
jordan holmes
Total recall.
dan friesen
Oh, yes.
jordan holmes
I forgot.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip from the 27th.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that this is...
Also, he interviewed Lord Moncton, but I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Don't give a fuck.
dan friesen
So this is a real problem.
For Alex.
alex jones
Let me tell you, you better choose a side, folks.
You're with the Chi-Coms or you're with the Anglo-American establishment.
jordan holmes
Whoa!
alex jones
We've reached right now.
dan friesen
So that little line indicates to me a complete lack of awareness in Alex of his own worldview.
He doesn't know what he's saying.
What he wants to say is that you're either with China or you're with his weird white supremacist patriot buddies, but he's using language that has a very specific and very different meaning in the world of his conspiracies.
When Alex says Anglo-American establishment, he's not talking about the West.
He cannot be, because the foundation of his narratives about the globalists largely rests upon the foundation of misrepresentations of Carol Quigley's writing.
Alex pretends that he's read Quigley's book, Tragedy and Hope, and in that book, Quigley admits that there's a group of people who operate in secret to control the world.
These are the roundtable groups who control the Council on Foreign Relations, the Royal Institute of International Affairs, and countless other bodies.
This group was set up by Cecil Rhodes and Alfred Milner, and Quigley very clearly refers to the collection of these groups as the Anglo-American Establishment.
That's literally the name of Quigley's previous book about Rhodes and the influence he's had over the years.
I've heard Alex use that term in relation to Quigley many times.
It's shorthand for the proto-globalists in the sphere of the Infowars conspiracy.
So I refuse to believe that Alex would ever use that expression to denote something positive in opposition to the Chinese because it literally means globalists.
jordan holmes
You're either with the people I hate, or you're with the people I hate.
And I'm on the side of...
Somebody.
I don't know anymore.
dan friesen
This isn't something that you could possibly slip up and say unless you have no idea what you're talking about.
You speak mostly randomly and you don't have a good handle on your source material.
This would literally be like me saying you can either support Satan or you can support the info war.
That's the situation we're in.
I don't believe that this is a slip up on Alex's part.
I think it's an indication that he really doesn't know what Anglo-American establishment means.
I think he was grasping for words and he remembered that he said those particular words before and it sounded good.
Unfortunately, he happened to accidentally suggest that siding with the globalists is a good idea because he doesn't know anything.
He doesn't mean anything.
He's just talking shit.
jordan holmes
I think it's fairly easy to say that if he doesn't mean Anglo-American establishment in the way that even his conspiracies suggest, what he really meant is you're either with white people or you're with Chinese people.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, more or less.
Like I said, that's what he's pulling towards.
But that term means something.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's a problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we start the 28th, and holy shit, I cannot wait to get to the fun on this episode.
But we start where Alex starts, and that's him talking about how the end is near for him.
alex jones
And we're not dead yet.
In fact, we're stronger than ever, hitting the final stretch.
Now to complete the operation.
dan friesen
Now to complete the operation.
We're in the final stretch.
jordan holmes
Just say the day!
Just fucking say next week!
dan friesen
I mean, he might not know exactly when he plans to shut things down, but I can't...
You know, like, a lot of people...
I'll be honest.
There's a chance that this is all just theatrics.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's so consistent.
jordan holmes
It's too real.
dan friesen
It's been going on for a while now, and it just feels more real than other times he's done these modeling performances.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We could be talking about him in a year and look back on this and feel like idiots that we were like, oh man.
jordan holmes
I will not feel like an idiot.
He should feel like an idiot.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
That is true.
jordan holmes
This is his fault, not mine.
dan friesen
And one of the reasons that I take this more real than other times that he said, we'll be gone, we're done.
Actually, I don't think there are that many times he's been that blunt about it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But one of the reasons that I take it as more real is affect is so fucking flat lately.
Like, he's just real slow and like, fuck this.
jordan holmes
A lot of long pauses.
dan friesen
Well, the long pauses are not too uncommon, but like, he's just no energy, just fucking ugh.
alex jones
We're seeing the full force of the New World Order, Marxist-Leninist system to shut off an economy, bankrupt the people, shut down the farms, and complete our journey to slavery.
But through this process, we will yet again discover the spirit of Americana, the Renaissance in 1776, which shall set us free.
I am zenned out.
I am focused today.
I have really cogitated on what needs to be done, and I am ready to deliver you the next level.
Of the transmission.
dan friesen
He sounds like he's on a tranquilizer.
It doesn't sound focused.
unidentified
I'm ready to send you on the next mission.
dan friesen
He sounds sedated.
unidentified
Should you choose to accept the mission?
jordan holmes
Impossible.
dan friesen
There's no life behind that.
There's no vigor.
And that's fairly regular these days.
Which is one of the reasons why I take it more like, yeah, this is not going to last.
Because generally, when you want to rile people up to your cause or whatever, you don't come in with like, ah, fuck it.
But that's the vibe he's giving off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's giving off a real Biden vibe right now.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about how he's going to take calls, and he also talks about, like, I don't ever get to the news.
alex jones
Let me just do this.
Let me give the number up because I really want to have more calls on the show and I want to get it up front.
I want to take calls within the first hour most days at least.
But I tend to not get to a lot of news these days because there's just so much.
It's so insane.
You can't do justice to each piece of this.
And so why even get to it?
In fact, I've got hundreds of news stories and dozens of incredible video clips.
dan friesen
The mentality that says there's so much news, so why get to any of it?
jordan holmes
Can't do everything, so why do anything, Dan?
dan friesen
It's very dumb.
jordan holmes
It's incredibly dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's not how you get things done.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
Because if you have, let's say, five stories that are all big, it's better to focus on one and do it well than just say, fuck it, I can't get to all five of these.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's a ludicrous strategy.
jordan holmes
It's not uncommon to find yourself thinking something along those lines for a little bit, but it seems like he's been doing that his entire career, Dan.
I don't think that's a good process.
dan friesen
It's a dark moment that you can have, but when you want to get back to business, when you get down to work...
Focus on one thing.
jordan holmes
Get it done.
dan friesen
Focus on actionable items and then move through them, move forward.
That's how you maximize your productivity.
Don't worry about the five.
Look at the one.
jordan holmes
Do one thing with your whole ass, not two things with half.
dan friesen
That's right.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Down home wisdom.
dan friesen
Right.
Which Alex should be into because he likes folksy nonsense.
So Alex in this next clip talks about how his team, come on, man, they're the good guys.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
The sides are so clear cut here, folks.
We're the good guys.
And everybody knows it.
I mean, the enemy can barely even talk or operate.
You can't shut me up.
You can't shut you up.
Our track record is just solid platinum.
Because we're real, folks.
I mean, we're the real deal.
And you're the real deal.
And that's why your prayers are paramount.
And then you're spreading the word is penultimate.
And then you've got the trifecta there.
But beneath that is a financial support.
But you pray?
Number one.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
You spread the word.
That's number two.
jordan holmes
Penultimate.
alex jones
And then that little added magic is the money.
And I never even wanted money until it tried to shut me down 15 years ago.
And literally, God said to me, I'm not kidding, you need to stop being ashamed.
You need to build an operation that's huge.
You need to fight them on every front.
And you need to be prosperous.
And you need to do that.
And I did it.
And you did it.
And here we are today.
And so now, when you buy a product at InfoWarsTore.com, you're not just getting a great product.
You are putting money into the Second American Revolution worldwide, and you've seen it pay off.
dan friesen
Ooh, so God told him to chase money, so...
jordan holmes
Alex, it is I, your deity.
unidentified
I command you to get that paper.
dan friesen
Alex, this is God.
Scare people and then sell them gold in a manipulative way.
It's the only way to stop the demons.
jordan holmes
Alex, it's me!
God, you need to scam people more.
dan friesen
Alex, have you considered super male vitality?
Make men feel like they're weak and then sell them pills to solve their problems.
unidentified
Alex, water filters!
jordan holmes
The end!
Why didn't I make better water?
dan friesen
I like that.
I really do enjoy that.
I don't think...
I don't know.
I don't know what God loves and what God doesn't, but I just have a sense that they wouldn't be so thrilled with that.
jordan holmes
I think God's more a bone broth guy.
That's my theory.
dan friesen
So this next clip is where I started to get the sense that we're in trouble.
We're in big trouble.
This was where I was just like, uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Does it go sideways?
dan friesen
I don't even know that.
That's an understatement.
It goes ass over tea kettle.
Is that an expression?
Is that a folksy expression?
jordan holmes
I don't think so, but I'm fine with it.
alex jones
I don't want to go to that level yet unless we can't turn this around, but if you have nothing left to lose, one human could go out and take out 15 5G towers and surveillance grids before you get killed by the drones.
Even if they have a drone on every block.
And once other humans see other humans do something, Stampedes don't just go in the direction of slavery.
Stampedes go...
Instead of, like, running around cowering and pissing on ourselves, everybody gets fired up against their weapons, and then we're unstoppable.
And I'm telling the New World Order, that's all you're summoning.
I can feel it.
And technology's not a bad thing.
Like, fire's not a bad thing.
Fire to light your hearth and cook some food.
I'm listening.
But if you want to put me on that fire, you think I'm on the spit?
I got an idea.
I'm going to use that fire on your ass.
jordan holmes
Great analogy.
alex jones
You want to take my guns and tell me I'm a slave?
I'll use a knife and take your guns.
What?
jordan holmes
You're literally going to bring a knife to a gunfight?
alex jones
You want to burn, baby, burn?
These damn robots are going to burn.
Sure.
Now, we're not at that point yet, but I want you to intergenerationally Understand the power you have as a weapon.
jordan holmes
I'm listening.
alex jones
You got power to take care of your babies and grow crops and be a good person.
jordan holmes
That's a weapon?
Or is it?
alex jones
But you've got the sacred right to defend yourself and to kill what other people are trying to kill your ass.
You understand that?
You understand me?
You need to find your spirit and stop giving in to these devil worshippers.
While they're trying to enslave you and your family and take everything you've got and everything you ever are and destroy your children.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
And you need to let them know that you will defeat them one way or another.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
And it's that spirit that's going to prevail.
But you've got to find that spirit and just have it there and know that it's something that's going to empower you to work hard and be good and not get in a fight with your wife or your husband.
unidentified
I was a bad husband!
jordan holmes
I was a bad husband!
alex jones
You know these technocrats are up there trying to screw you over, but just by you making it a human future, and just by you living a good life, as the French say, the best revenge is living well, you're kicking their ass, these blue blood scumbags that are so unhappy, they project their hatred of themselves onto us, and we reject their hate.
unidentified
I...
dan friesen
Yeah, that was where I was like, we're in trouble.
jordan holmes
That is...
That is a...
That's a complicated psychodrama that just played out right there.
dan friesen
That went all over the place.
jordan holmes
That was everywhere.
dan friesen
It's not yet time to kill, but I'll burn your ass!
jordan holmes
It starts out with...
I could be the Unabomber.
It goes through to, I was a bad husband and father.
It continues on to, yeah, maybe I am projecting my hate onto you by telling you that you're projecting your hate onto me.
dan friesen
There are some layers to it.
jordan holmes
That's an onion.
dan friesen
I think that there's some interesting pieces, too, with the, like him saying, at the beginning there, he's saying, like, when you have nothing left to lose, one person could take out five of these towers or 15 of these towers.
Sure, sure, fine.
So, you know, the idea of having nothing left to lose is important to hold onto.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because I think that that's the mode that Alex is definitely in.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
We've lost this round.
There's nothing left to lose.
jordan holmes
I have nothing left to lose, and I am on murder street.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that gives that vibe.
And then the yelling about murder!
Murder!
But it's in self-defense.
jordan holmes
Of course it is!
dan friesen
Sure.
I think that it's fine.
I don't know.
If someone's going to kill you, I don't think it's morally wrong to kill them.
Use lethal force if someone's going to kill you.
Sure.
Now.
Is getting a vaccine the same thing as someone rushing you with a gun or a knife?
I don't think so.
I would say that Alex's definition of what requires lethal force in self-defense might be a little bit off.
jordan holmes
This is the problem with the intolerant left in this country, Dan.
You're always out here like, oh, don't kill people because of vaccines.
It's part of what I believe!
First Amendment!
dan friesen
And then he goes from the yelling about killing and burning these robots into chores.
I don't understand what's going on.
jordan holmes
Oh, I do.
Oh, I do.
dan friesen
But that's where I was like, we're not safe.
We're not safe.
jordan holmes
No, no, this is not good.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So he ends up going to break a little bit after that, and he comes back.
I think the crew knew they needed to chill him out a little bit.
jordan holmes
You mean get him off the air, tackle him, and send him somewhere?
dan friesen
They really should have.
jordan holmes
This is incitement.
dan friesen
Dude, this goes...
To places you could never imagine.
This goes so badly.
Anybody should have stopped him at any point.
Someone really should have hit the big button that says, like, off air or whatever.
jordan holmes
The big red button.
dan friesen
But I think their first attempt to try and get Alex into a better headspace is playing You Belong to the City.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Because that tends to mellow him out.
jordan holmes
This will do it.
dan friesen
And he has a knee-jerk reaction.
Every single time they play this, he gives a speech over it.
So he does, but it's very cookie-cutter.
This is very...
Try the numbers.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
You can feel it.
You can taste it.
You can see it.
You can face it.
You can hear it.
Oh, yes, you can.
We're getting near it.
alex jones
We're getting so near it right now.
unidentified
Oh, baby.
alex jones
You got to sign it all over your life, your children's lives, everything you got.
You don't want to lose them or lose your own life.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
If you don't, you bet it all.
alex jones
They're going to use it against you.
And then they got you.
And then you're a slave.
And all of us and all of our peoples have been slaves before.
And we dream of being free.
And America, for all its sins, was that promise, that dream, that for so many was realized.
And so it created incredible wealth and power.
And then evil came here to try to take that power.
And all they had to do was embrace it.
And love humanity.
And love competition.
And embrace the animating contest.
All right.
unidentified
I want to go to your phone calls.
dan friesen
Quick fact check on America being the dream of freedom.
There's a lot of slavery.
jordan holmes
I don't remember that part.
dan friesen
For some people, not such a great dream of freedom, Alex.
jordan holmes
You know, we had that war for states' rights.
I remember that.
dan friesen
No, no.
Alex has told us it's to give black people rights.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So he wants to take some calls, but he also wants to tell you about how he's not scared.
He's like Bone Crusher.
He's never scared.
alex jones
Can you imagine telling the president or his advisors?
The stuff I say on air.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
Can you imagine when I've delivered the president packets of info with all the proof?
Talk about, that's pretty cool, isn't it?
Nope.
But what does that say?
It says we're so incredibly weak, it takes some crazy dude from Texas to do it because everybody else is too scared.
I'm scared to not do it.
I mean, let these crazy people run everything?
I mean, I'm doing this because I'm scared.
I'm not doing this because I'm on some power trip or I'm doing some, you know, measuring contest of how long my tallywacker has.
I'm doing this because I'm scared of these people.
I just don't get rolling over to evil like that makes you safe.
Oh, the big bad wolf just came to my house and ate half my family.
But if I pet him, he'll eat me last.
You know what?
I'm going to kill the big bad wolf.
jordan holmes
That was not the moral of that story.
alex jones
Why do we grovel?
Because if the big bad wolf knew he came in our house, we were going to attack him, he'd run.
But instead, when the big bad wolf comes in, I used to watch when I was a kid, like Friday the 13th, and I always wonder, like, do people run through the woods and they see Jason and they fall down and crawl and scream and let him kill him?
And I thought, that's ridiculous.
I would fight.
See, I was following my instincts.
But I learned later, no, the average man or woman would actually fall down to some guy with a machete instead of getting a rock or a stick and killing their ass, or at least fighting.
And I thought, well, everybody's gonna, like, get a rock or a stick or fight this out.
Some dude pulls a machete on me.
I'm gonna pick this table up and smash it over the head.
I'm not some badass.
I'll just kill your ass.
I mean, I don't understand this, but see, everybody isn't a leader, folks.
Most everybody else goes, like in the movies, oh, oh, oh, oh, don't kill me.
No, please don't.
And that's why they get their ass killed.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
So all I'm telling America and the world is this.
Stop laying down.
Stop kissing ass.
Good people work with them.
Work together.
That's a great thing.
But don't let them twist that instinct to lay down a tyranny.
Your phone calls are coming up.
I'll say this.
I need money to fight these wars.
And you're the wind in my sails.
We got products you need.
Food back in stock.
dan friesen
What the fuck, man?
Not scared.
Long thing about fighting back against horror movie monsters.
jordan holmes
Come out, come out, or I'll blow your house down.
And the first little piggy shot him to death from his doorway.
unidentified
Yeah, because he had a Barrett 30 cow.
I'll build my house out of whatever the fuck I want.
dan friesen
So Alex goes out to break there.
When he comes back, this is where it all falls apart.
jordan holmes
That was keeping it together?
dan friesen
Comparatively.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Comparatively, that was totally sane.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
Normally, maybe I would spend more time on that, but I can't because Alex completely loses his shit.
alex jones
Restaurants I've gone to since I was a baby.
dan friesen
Lubies.
jordan holmes
Those old ladies.
Poor old ladies.
alex jones
Why is Trump being all confident?
Because he knows if he isn't confident, we'll go into total depression.
I'm talking about...
Nothing at the store.
We're like, I don't want to say this, folks, but I got to be honest with you.
It's about a 60% chance we go into total collapse.
And I mean, power going off sometimes.
I mean, baby starving to death.
I mean, you ain't getting your medicine.
I mean, it's done.
And there's one thing I want to say, and I'm not a vindictive person, but I'm not taking the blame.
And America shouldn't take the blame.
dan friesen
Why would anyone blame Alex?
Why is his first thought to be like, alright, there's a 60% chance that this whole thing's going down, and guess what?
Not my fault.
jordan holmes
Probably because somewhere along the line he realizes that it's all of the things that he championed that...
Are going to make the collapse happen.
dan friesen
I think on some subconscious level, he might have a feeling about that.
jordan holmes
He's like, oh, maybe whenever everybody does the stuff that I want to do, as we've seen over the past three years, we're all gonna die.
dan friesen
Yeah, there might be some part of his brain that's unaccessible to his conscious brain that is screaming that at him.
jordan holmes
Let me out!
dan friesen
Let me out!
So 60% chance total collapse.
We get some more numbers in this next clip.
And then Alex makes a confession.
That will rock the ages.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
This is something...
jordan holmes
Tom Cruise, rock of ages?
dan friesen
...miked down hard for this.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
dan friesen
This changes everything.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I'll go to your calls, but let me...
You know, let's just go to your calls.
I'll say it next segment, but...
You understand it's not just rhetoric when I tell you about the Depression.
You can go look this up yourself.
90% of people lived in...
The country.
About half of those were self-sufficient.
That's 45% of people were totally self-sufficient.
Today it's 5%.
unidentified
We have a collapse.
alex jones
Here's why I felt so sick.
I'll admit it.
I will eat my neighbors.
I'm not letting my kids die.
I'm just going to be honest.
My superpower's being honest.
dan friesen
Alex will eat his neighbors.
When things go bad, he will eat his neighbors.
jordan holmes
Someone needs to send this broadcast to them.
Quickly!
Get out now!
dan friesen
Get this to the neighborhood watch.
jordan holmes
One of those neighborhood apps where people talk to each other?
dan friesen
If there's one thing that Alex shouldn't be concerned about, it's fucking food.
unidentified
He said he stocked his Tuesday bunker with tons of food.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but protein isn't meat, Dan.
Protein isn't meat.
dan friesen
He shouldn't have...
Any sort of feeling of like, I'm going to eat my neighbors.
Because his number one sponsor is a survival food company.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He keeps talking about how he's ordered more and more food from them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He should be set on food.
jordan holmes
You know what?
dan friesen
No need to cannibal.
jordan holmes
He's had his eye on Chuck for a long time.
It's time.
It's just time.
dan friesen
Kind of makes you think.
jordan holmes
It's just time to get it done.
He's got that.
unidentified
Holy shit.
dan friesen
So fucked up.
I'll just be honest with you.
I'll eat my neighbors.
jordan holmes
Thanks for being honest.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
So, also, Alex is making up numbers about the Great Depression again.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
According to the Library of Congress, by 1900, the year 1900, 30% of the U.S. population had migrated to cities and were living in areas you could call urban centers.
I don't know if Alex expects people to believe that between 1900 and 1929, approximately two-thirds of the urban population relocated back to rural areas, but either way, he's just talking shit.
According to 2018 data from Pew Social Trends, a majority of the US population lives in areas that would be qualified as suburban at this point.
Rural population is approximately 14% at that point, and urban comes in around 31%.
According to Pew, one of the primary drivers of the higher level of population in urban areas is immigration.
Most of the time, people who come to this country from another country aren't doing so to settle in rural Montana.
Most of the time, they'll gravitate towards locations with the most job opportunities or places with at least some semblance of community that they can connect with, like people who share their country of origin or religious practices.
Those things are not as likely to be found in rural areas as compared to urban ones.
There are other variables, but this is one big driver of urban and suburban population growth.
Anyway, Alex is just making things up about urban and rural areas, as well as about the Great Depression.
But good to know that he would eat his neighbors.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'll tell you, my small town growing up did not have a Koreatown, so I don't think...
dan friesen
Yeah.
And people like to...
Part of larger assimilation is also...
The entry, entry-ability.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And a lot of that is having people who have some sort of a shared identity with you.
It makes it so much easier.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And so that's one of the big drivers of, like, you see larger growth in urban and suburban areas.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So anyway, I don't really care.
Alex is stupid.
But I thought maybe he was just saying, like, I'd eat my neighbors and it was a throwaway thing.
jordan holmes
Nope, we're going to go on a long...
dan friesen
He seems pretty serious about wanting to...
jordan holmes
Does he have a plan?
dan friesen
Eh.
alex jones
My superpower's being honest.
I've extrapolated this out.
I don't have to for a few years since I got food and stuff, but I'm literally looking at my neighbors now and going, am I ready to hang them up and gut them and skin them and chop them up?
And you know what?
I'm ready.
My daughters aren't starving to death.
I'll eat my neighbors.
See, my superpower is being honest.
I'll eat your ass.
unidentified
I will.
I'm a combat model.
jordan holmes
2020 is the year of eating ass.
That's true.
alex jones
The point is, is have you thought about that yet?
Because I'm somebody that thought I could fix this, and I'm starting to think about having to eat my neighbors.
Sizing up my neighbor.
I'm going to haul him up by a chain and chop his ass up.
I'll do it.
My children aren't going hungry.
dan friesen
Rob Dew should have tackled him long ago at this point.
jordan holmes
Dad, this is really stringy.
You said you found this in the forest.
Dad, is this Chuck?
Is this Chuck?
dan friesen
Well, technically.
jordan holmes
Your superpower is being honest.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's Chuck.
Chuck the neighbor, not ground Chuck.
Well, it is ground Chuck.
Are we playing meet who's on first here?
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
All right.
So I know we've heard Alex talk a lot in the past about how after 15 days of no food, we all become cannibals, but I don't think I've ever heard him discuss his willingness, or dare I say, enthusiasm, to eat his neighbors.
jordan holmes
Fantastical enthusiasm.
dan friesen
It made me wonder, so I decided to look into cannibalism a little bit, and I found two interesting bits of research on the subject that I think Alex should consider.
Sure.
unidentified
The first came from a 2017 article in Time about research done by James Cole, a senior lecturer in anthropology at the University of Chicago.
dan friesen
of Brighton.
Cole published a study in Nature that looked at the caloric content of a human body, like all the edible parts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And he came to the conclusion that it seems unlikely that most of the historical instances of cannibalism were driven by a need for food, except in cases like the Donner Party.
Part of the reason for this is that, as Cole put it, the mental and physical effort to hunt a hominin would presumably be much greater given the hominin's ability to fight, run, and think their way out of the hunt.
What he's getting at is that compared to most any other source of food, the calories you would expend to eat a person would almost not be worth it from a nutritional perspective.
It's a bad strategy, unless you literally have no other option, and even then you probably do have a better option you haven't considered, like various wild plants.
jordan holmes
So what you're saying is that he has come to the scientific conclusion that man is the most dangerous game.
dan friesen
Or the most calorie-intensive game.
Yeah, most of the time, any kind of cannibalism was more ritualistic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, or somebody's already dead.
dan friesen
Conceivably, yeah.
The second article I found was pretty interesting.
It was in The Sun, discussing a recent study published in the Journal of Forensic Science.
Researchers profiled five cases of people who practiced cannibalism and found that they had some interesting commonalities.
Essentially, what they found was the people who ended up eating other people are pretty consistently either severely schizophrenic or they're survivors of intensely dysfunctional childhoods.
In the case of two case studies, quote, feelings of humiliation seem to be the trigger, and both patients assaulted their victims at a time when they suffered a loss of self-esteem.
Granted, Alex isn't actually eating anyone right now, but he's talking about being cool with doing so right at a point when he seems to be suffering a bit of a loss of self-esteem.
jordan holmes
I do think he's being serious.
dan friesen
I found that thread to be troubling.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
From the Sun article, quote, In the cases of cannibalism in patients who suffered from schizophrenia, the researchers found there was a history of emotional friction and hostility in their parent-child relationships.
The academics concluded the schizophrenic ones performed cannibalism as a very extreme reaction of self-defense to a threat of destruction, physical or psychological.
While for the ones with a personality disorder, cannibalism boosted their self-esteem and relieved tension.
Quote, Ego and narcissism are the central issue.
With a desire to overcome deep-rooted frustrations by means of an extraordinary act.
It kind of sounds like if you take, if you just replace...
Actually eating people and talking about eating people.
It seems like that describes what Alex is looking for.
He's looking to overcome deep-rooted frustration.
He feels that this seems like an extreme reaction of self-defense to a threat of destruction, physical or psychological.
I would assume he has some hostility in his parent-child relationships.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think?
unidentified
I, you know...
dan friesen
You know, so what does all this mean?
I don't know.
Maybe nothing.
Or maybe I totally believe it when Alex says that he'd be fine eating people.
One of the two.
jordan holmes
This is one of the few times where I'm really bummed out that your research is pretty good because I was really hoping that this was kind of a tough talk kind of situation, but now that he fits the profile, I don't like that at all.
dan friesen
I don't like that at all.
jordan holmes
That's the third season of Manhunter.
It's about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
He would say that.
Everything is about him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
To be clear, I don't think Alex is going to eat anybody, but I think that the mental state that he's presenting does seem to follow at least some of the superficial characteristics in these studies, which is not great.
jordan holmes
In some ways, just being, like, I wouldn't even say I would eat a person unless I was being very obviously funny about it.
dan friesen
I wouldn't say it.
And I wouldn't do it, probably.
And maybe that's just because I'm a picky eater.
You know, I hated that coconut lime seltzer.
jordan holmes
You don't like eating things off of bones.
dan friesen
No, I certainly don't.
jordan holmes
That really bums you out.
That'd be way worse if it was a femur.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
So, I probably wouldn't have looked into that stuff if it wasn't like...
He talks about it for a long time.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
alex jones
I will eat your ass!
And that's why I want the globalists to know.
I will eat your ass first.
You're not.
We're going to dig you out of those bunkers.
We're going to dig you out of those holes.
You make us eat them.
Let me tell you something right now.
jordan holmes
I'll get in there.
alex jones
I swear to God, if it's the last thing I do, I'm going to get my hands around your throat.
And you know that's why you're begging for peace.
jordan holmes
Then I'm going to eat your ass.
alex jones
You should have thought about that when you turned down Christ a long time ago.
dan friesen
Alex is going to eat the globalists because they didn't accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
jordan holmes
I remember that.
I remember the letter to the Thessalonians.
I do remember that where he was like, look, you guys don't accept Christ.
We're going to eat your ass.
That's just the rule.
That's just the rule.
Jesus told me.
dan friesen
This is so weird.
jordan holmes
Turn your ass's other cheek so I can eat it.
dan friesen
This is the weirdest thing I've ever heard on this show.
A protracted rant about how it starts with I'm going to eat my neighbors in order to keep my children alive.
And then I'm going to dig out the globalists and I'm going to eat them first.
jordan holmes
Now this, I'm going to be honest, this is starting to sound less about sustenance.
I'm going to be straight with you, Dan.
I think this isn't about food.
I think he's got food.
dan friesen
I understand he's being like a showman and being over the top and what have you, but I also don't think he's joking.
alex jones
You think Christ would eat somebody?
He would never do that.
I will.
My daughter, starve to death.
You could say that was a metaphysical hypothetical, but it's really not.
And let's just get past the jokes here.
jordan holmes
Yes, let's get past them.
That's what I want to do.
alex jones
The actuary and government study from South Africa to the United States to Germany to Russia to Japan to South America shows in about seven days almost everyone commits murder for food.
Within 14 days almost everyone resorts to cannibalism or commits suicide.
I would commit suicide before I did that, but my children are my weak place.
I'll barbecue your ass flat.
I will eat you.
unidentified
I will eat you.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
That nice little sting right at the end.
That little sting.
I will eat you.
Let's get past the jokes.
I want you to know I will barbecue your ass.
Flat.
I will eat you.
dan friesen
So ridiculous.
Also, people who have gone on hunger strikes have gone without food for much longer than 14 days.
Alex is making that up because he's stupid and he wants to justify his fantasies about eating his enemies, which is an interesting new low for him, I gotta say.
jordan holmes
Has he never seen the show Naked and Afraid?
They're out there for two or three weeks every time, and they never resort to cannibalism.
dan friesen
That's a good counterexample.
I'd be interested to see his source on this 14-day cannibalism thing, and him just rattling off countries and saying the word actuary isn't going to do it.
jordan holmes
Sounds like a great diet.
14-day cannibalism.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
What a dum-dum.
So he's not done.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
alex jones
All you spirit cookers act all tough all day.
You're doing your little satanic rituals and drinking blood and stuff.
I'll drink your blood.
You understand that?
I will hang your ass up and cut you into cutlets like a filet mignon and grill your ass before I watch my daughters starve to death.
See, now you took society and civilization as if it was some joke you could piss on all day.
Do you understand?
You unleash the animal.
You unleash the beast.
And you're not the beast.
I don't claim I'm the most tough guy around, but compared to you...
Compared to you, I'm Godzilla on steroids.
jordan holmes
Does he work out?
alex jones
But just for the courts and everything, I'm joking around here.
I'm not going to eat anybody.
unidentified
That's not how it works!
Hey, legally speaking, I'm not going to eat anybody.
jordan holmes
According to the letter of the law, I do have to tell you, I will not eat somebody.
Parentheses.
We'll totally eat somebody.
dan friesen
I've been talking about how thrilled I am to eat people for about 15 minutes now, but for the courts, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
jordan holmes
That is the eating people version of if I did it, here's how I would.
dan friesen
So now, um...
Alex is presenting this in a really cowardly way, even in this stupid hypothetical, because he's saying, like, I would only do this to feed my children.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which also raises the question for me.
You're going to make your kids be cannibals?
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And if they don't eat people, I'm going to eat them, too.
dan friesen
Well, he discusses his plan to feed people to his children in this next clip.
alex jones
Like I said, if it came down to me alone, I'd starve to death before I did it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
When my baby's coming to the equation, I will cook your ass up so fast and I'll tell them, oh, I killed a cow out back, baby.
Here it is because my baby's ain't going to die for your crap, your failure.
I will eat your leftist ass like corn on the cob.
I'm ready.
jordan holmes
God, I say that in bed all the time.
I will eat your leftist ass like corn on the cob, baby.
dan friesen
Different tone.
unidentified
It is a little different tone.
dan friesen
I can't imagine, like, I don't know.
I mean, it's such a shame that things from his show can't be used in court.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Because, like, I can't imagine how easily you could win custody if you just played a tape of, I will feed them people and tell my children it's beef.
jordan holmes
Your Honor, he promised to lie to his children and make them eat people.
And he was not joking.
dan friesen
He said he wasn't joking.
jordan holmes
He said he wasn't joking.
unidentified
Well, legally for the courts, he did say it's all jokes.
jordan holmes
Your Honor, I would like you to strike that from the record, seeing as how it's obviously bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Ted, we've been eating out of these food buckets for three years now, and suddenly you just say you found a cow in the backyard?
dan friesen
We don't have cows in the backyard.
unidentified
What a stroke of luck!
jordan holmes
What a stroke of a stray cow just wandering in the backyard?
Was it Brandon?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It was Brandon Chuck.
dan friesen
If he has two years worth of food or whatever, the only people who are going to be left after that point are also going to be pretty hardcore survivors at that point.
He's not going to be able to find easy pickings to eat.
jordan holmes
Get out of here.
He's keeping his neighbor in the freezer.
He's prepared.
He's ready and waiting for this day.
dan friesen
I could see that.
jordan holmes
Now I'm sad.
dan friesen
A little bit earlier, he touched on this.
The theme of, like, the globalists and the spirit cookers.
Like, they took society as, like, a joke.
But really, what was going on was real men were restraining themselves because they knew the monsters that lived inside.
unidentified
Of course.
alex jones
You want to worship Satan?
Well, guess what?
You're about to meet something worse, you dumb sacks of crap.
You've been pissing on civilization your whole life, not knowing it's men held it up.
It was savages held it up.
Because we knew how bad we were.
jordan holmes
Savages held up civilization.
alex jones
But now you demand we pull the fist out and just shove it into your teeth.
So good.
Before I'll sit there and live off starving Latin Americans and Africans.
jordan holmes
What?
What?
alex jones
I'll eat one of these globalists on a spit.
Oh, I'm a performance artist like they say.
Alex Jones and Marie, everybody knows.
jordan holmes
They'll know.
unidentified
Jesus.
jordan holmes
Next week, I will be taking a computer chip out of a homeless man and then eating him.
You think I'm not real?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, woof.
What a segment.
jordan holmes
That is...
dan friesen
What an embarrassing fucking second.
jordan holmes
That is legendary.
That is the stuff of legend.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, good call on his part.
A couple times calling out like, ha ha, no one takes me seriously.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But also boo, because he also throughout says, I'm not joking.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I'm going to eat people.
jordan holmes
Very much not joking.
Wild.
dan friesen
So, in the case of a collapse...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Avoid Alex.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Good call.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
If you have like a little community, like some self-sustaining community, mutual aid kind of situation, don't let him in.
He's going to eat you.
jordan holmes
This is every movie where they're the post-apocalyptic movie.
We got the band of good people going in there and then they see that nice little house.
Alex's little house in the country.
He's got his family in there and they're like, oh, we've got plenty of food to share with you.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Well, they got a giant black pot in the background stirring carrots and shit.
dan friesen
So that was fucked up, but kind of funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Pretty funny.
jordan holmes
Very funny.
dan friesen
Pretty fucking funny.
unidentified
Very funny.
dan friesen
Not indicative of a great headspace, perhaps.
I would say, like I described it, kind of a new low for him talking.
Because, like, there are people who take him seriously.
Yeah.
And they're like, oh, maybe cannibalism is justifiable in certain circumstances.
And, like, okay, guys.
jordan holmes
Tell me he went straight to calls after that.
dan friesen
Not really, because he comes back, and he starts crying.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
Because he starts thinking about all of the abortions that he's paid for in the past.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And, like, this is a real jarring swing of emotions from, hey, globalists, I'm going to dig you out of your holes and eat you to this.
alex jones
I've warned everybody, and I'm...
I'm going to have to go into a selfish mode soon.
And I feel guilty every time I'm around my children that I'm not building some armored redoubt because the globalists are building armored fortresses because they know what they've done.
And look, there's a genetic selfishness where I'm just like constantly, like I have dreams about it.
Just run, run, go to northern Canada.
Just get out, Jones.
Get out now.
Because I love my children.
You know, you're right, son's off.
My son's great, but he's a son.
I don't even worry about it.
But my daughters, I have nightmares about my daughters.
I just constantly worry about them.
jordan holmes
I think you're a bad father.
alex jones
I've tried to save the whole thing, and you've tried to save it.
I don't know if we can save any of it, folks.
I've got to tell you.
And then God tells me, how many kids did you kill, Jones?
You probably killed 15, 20 kids you knew of.
What?
And so now, you know, that comes back on the ones that made it, son.
Because when I know when I die, spirits are real.
I'm going to have to sit there.
I can't wait, actually, to meet these incredible people.
I mean, I would be tortured for a thousand years for one of the children I know.
unidentified
I would do anything for them.
alex jones
And I can't imagine the children that I supported being chopped up and butchered.
And I never knew that I destroyed all that wealth, all that power, everything.
And instead the left makes a sick joke out of it.
Killing their own children.
unidentified
Not knowing how the universe works.
alex jones
You think you kill your children and you don't get destroyed?
You think you let some doctor vacuum out your child's brain or chop your daughter or son up and that you don't then die?
I mean, just think about how the universe works.
You never get away with sin because you reap what you sow.
dan friesen
You gotta get off air, man.
You gotta get off air.
You can't do this.
Like, you can't do an entire segment about how excited and willing you are to eat people and then that.
Like, I don't honestly believe...
I think he was hamming that up a little bit.
But I do believe there are some sincere emotions somewhere that were being played up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But, like, he's...
This is a fucking pendulum, man.
He is...
This is not, like, appropriate.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
dan friesen
This is...
It almost feels voyeuristic.
Watching his show at this point.
It almost feels like we're seeing something we shouldn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's gross.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
This is somebody...
I want to be in the room.
Not the room with him.
I want to be behind glass and I hopefully want it to be reinforced and I would like to be wearing an anti-cannibalism suit.
dan friesen
He throws hatchets around.
You're never safe.
jordan holmes
But God, Liz, imagine looking around at the people next to you just like, we're all just going to do this, huh?
We're just going to watch this?
Alright, let's get some popcorn then.
I don't know.
dan friesen
I imagine sitting there as he gets into his cannibalism chunk and you're thinking...
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
This is great stuff.
dan friesen
No, you're thinking, this isn't good.
And you're like, oh, maybe he's going to get off the topic.
Maybe it's just a straight thought.
It keeps going, and you're like, holy shit.
It gets to commercial, like, oh, dodged a bullet.
That didn't get too bad.
Comes back from break, gets into the, oh, what are we doing?
Someone needs to stop him.
Like, someone who cares needs to stop him.
jordan holmes
There is no one.
dan friesen
This is embarrassing.
It's gross.
Yep.
So anyway, he realizes he's got to go to calls.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
He prefaces going to calls with about the best thing you could say after this.
jordan holmes
I don't want to talk about cannibalism.
alex jones
Let's not talk about what I've said earlier today.
It is time to get real.
This is the time to cut the crap, folks.
And get right down to who you are and what you stand for forever.
Because that's all that ever matters.
Joe in New Jersey.
Go ahead and take us out of this segment.
Sorry for making me old.
dan friesen
What an awkward throw to call.
It's like, let's not talk about anything I've said here.
Let's pretend that didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Hi, I'm Joe from New Jersey.
Alex, quick question.
Would you eat me?
I will take my answer off air.
dan friesen
So Alex talked to this Joe character, and it's whatever, but he starts rambling about the end of the world.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Everyone's rushing out of the cities.
That's why they did this, is they're losing.
They had this big, beautiful plan, but let me tell you.
As the Bible says, but even without the Bible, I've seen the projection.
It's exactly as Revelation says.
They're going to race and fight us and look like they'll overcome us right at the end, just so Satan can be defeated.
jordan holmes
Turn the music up.
alex jones
It all is instantly, my brother.
I love you.
Beautiful call.
All right, I'll try to stick calls and come back.
I'm sorry, I've been out of control today.
unidentified
I'm sorry, I've been out of control today.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
She's going to ride that out.
dan friesen
Missed the break in the other direction this time.
jordan holmes
She's going to ride that out.
dan friesen
Sorry, I've been out of control.
So yeah, it's interesting.
He gets to talking here in this next clip about Paul.
Paul Joseph Watson.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And Paul's doing his own thing and Alex is fucking happy for him, man.
alex jones
Sure.
unidentified
All right, we got a lot of followers.
alex jones
You got a ball walk, so take it over.
unidentified
Another one to mine.
alex jones
Apprentices.
Who does his own thing now.
That's the thing about apprentices or children.
They do their own things.
But long after you're gone, they come back.
I've got a plan.
He takes over in the next hour.
dan friesen
So Paul's taking over in the next hour, and I've got to say something.
He's not.
This is still the second hour of the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Alex has a whole other hour to go.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
You don't take it.
It seems like he's losing his shit, particularly in the second hour lately.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And thinking the show is ending, and it's not.
He still has another hour.
jordan holmes
I think the show is ending, but in a larger sense.
dan friesen
Yes, yes, it does feel that way.
Wheels fully off the wagon.
So Alex gets to talking some more about this, the world is starving narrative that he's on.
And I think that he's right in some ways and then wrong in some others.
alex jones
As nationalists, as Christians, as conservatives.
As evil white men, we need to come out and say, it's wrong to starve Africans and Latin Americans and Asians to death.
We don't support that.
And it's Trump's total Trump card.
I mean, if Trump just comes out and goes, the U.N. says 133 million are starving to death right now, you're racist if you don't stop this.
It all ends.
And I advised the president on this last week, and I advised him on it this morning through multiple sources, and they are...
The response was, we're going to kill your ass.
I'm like, okay, great.
Dude, I can't live.
I mean, imagine all those babies in Africa and Latin America.
You can say overpopulated, not overpopulated.
Are you going to pull the trigger and blow their heads off when a little kid's begging for food and dying?
I mean, just come on, man.
We're not doing this.
It's not in my DNA.
And that's the real world.
Pull up the articles like AP yesterday.
133 million people starving now.
It was 33 million last week.
I mean, there's not a million dead worldwide from this virus, but millions are dying.
Why do we...
Oh, 265 million starving.
Sorry, it's gone up.
dan friesen
So the part that I agree with him about, and he's right, is that patriots and nationalists and Christians and evil white men should very much care about this.
So I applaud that, Alex.
If that's the only thing you're bringing to the table...
Unfortunately, everything else he's talking about is wrong.
jordan holmes
And if it's genuine.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, it's not.
So that 265 million number is not a new development.
It's just from the same Guardian article he's been citing on this story the whole time.
He's never read it, though.
I can tell that.
The article was published on April 21st, and it warns that due to the crisis we're in now, quote, at least 265 million are being pushed to the brink of starvation.
All experts on the topic agree that the two most essential things needed to stop the looming catastrophe is money and access.
We can all donate and try to make a difference that way, or we can pressure our government to take the threat seriously and provide funding to organizations that are on the ground helping people.
Beyond that, these people who are the aid workers need access.
They need to be able to cross borders to get the assistance to the people who need it.
The essential message of this article, which chiefly quotes Beasley, the head of the UN World Food Program, is that, quote, we can stop this becoming a widespread famine, but we need to act quickly and smartly.
That's the bottom line.
So we're fucked This article was published under the Global Development Initiative at The Guardian, and if you actually read the article, there's a little icon that says it's supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
The content is editorially independent, but the only reason a lot of this reporting that Alex is relying on to build his completely nonsensical and exploitative narratives exists, the only reason it exists is because of money donated by the very people he's trying to paint as the arch-villains who are trying to starve the developing world.
So, again, I say take this problem seriously, but don't forget I mean, even then,
jordan holmes
his hero, his messiah, as he puts it...
Is able to do this at any time and is only going to use it as a trump card if he needs to.
Which suggests that if he doesn't need to, he would never ever do it.
And this is the good guy.
dan friesen
He's saying that the trump card is accusing people of being racist if they don't help.
Because Alex believes that accusations of racism are like magic bullets or something.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
That's more what he's saying.
But, I mean, it does imply that Trump could...
Unilaterally take care of all of this if you wanted to.
And I'm not sure that that's 100% true, but he certainly could do a whole lot.
jordan holmes
I'm not sure it's 100% or it's not even like mostly true.
dan friesen
I'm not an expert in these issues, but I do know that there's more we could be doing.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex gets a call now, and this is a bad call.
alex jones
Hunter in Michigan, thanks for holding you on the air, sir.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Mr. Jones, it's a pleasure to speak with you.
alex jones
Pleasure to speak to you, brother.
What's on your mind?
unidentified
I'm just wondering, Nate, do you think we're going to survive this tyranny?
alex jones
No, we're going to die.
unidentified
Cool.
Well, me and my buddy...
alex jones
But our spirits, brother, live on.
So what matters is our consciousness.
Hold on to that.
dan friesen
So earlier when he was speaking extemporaneously, he was talking about how when there's nothing left to lose, someone could take out 15 5G towers.
And now this caller is asking him if we're going to survive, and he says no.
jordan holmes
So none of us have anything left to lose.
dan friesen
It seems that way.
It seems like if you put these two pieces of information or rhetoric that he's putting out on this episode, you're left with the conclusion that none of us have anything left to lose.
And so when this caller discusses what he really wants to talk about with Alex, this sounds like a terrorist planning session.
unidentified
Me and my buddy, he just got an AR.
We're ready to protest Whitmer again on the 30th.
alex jones
That's beautiful.
Yes, will we survive this tyranny?
Your spirit totally survives, but your spirit has free will, so you have to point it the way you want it to go.
And I'm not telling you something you don't know, Hunter.
Which way is your soul pointed on her?
unidentified
Towards the Lord.
alex jones
Damn right, brother.
dan friesen
That seems...
Yeah.
I mean, it seems like a little bit of code, kind of.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I know that, like, I've even made this point, that just bringing a gun to a protest isn't necessarily a terrorist act, but the way he's talking about me and my buddy bought AR-15s to go to this protest, that is a different kind of vibe that I'm getting from that caller.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I could be over-sensitive on it, but it's very fucked up.
It feels fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the comparisons are between leftist rallies and protests where...
The cops fuck up people for just wearing a mask.
And then you look at these protests and you see them in full fucking decked out...
dan friesen
To be fair, they're not wearing masks.
jordan holmes
Well, a lot of them are, but they're fucking gas masks and shit like that.
dan friesen
They're wearing masks and holding signs and saying, I'm not wearing masks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
But part of the difference in treatment is obviously race and ideology and whether or not the cops are fascists.
But another part of it is that these guys...
Do seem like they are in the brink of murdering a shit ton of people at all times.
Yeah, apparently.
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently that's the new wrinkle.
jordan holmes
So there is the massive threat of force that will change the way that they are treated at these protests.
dan friesen
It does seem that way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex takes a break from calls because he wants to put a picture of his daughter up on screen, which is fucked up.
unidentified
Bah!
jordan holmes
I'm gonna dox my daughter.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Holy shit!
dan friesen
Then he starts crying talking about her.
unidentified
Oh my god.
alex jones
We say God's invisible.
But if you look at the sun, the sky, the fingerprints are on the front of them.
unidentified
If you look at your children, everything is good.
alex jones
You see God's fingerprints.
And you see God right there.
Look at this.
This is my little daughter right here.
And you know, these are the times with the enemy coming in on us.
That's her a few years ago.
So perfect, so pure.
God shines through her.
Like a stained glass weapon.
unidentified
I just can't turn my children over to them.
alex jones
Because you can lie to yourself all day long.
You joined the new world order, man.
You just turned your kids over to hell.
And they're so innocent, and they're so good, and they're so pure.
And they just want to understand the universe.
Look how pure she is.
Look how good she is.
And some will say, oh, you put your daughter on there, you make her a target.
She's already a target.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
She's already under attack by evil, just like every child on this planet.
unidentified
Because she can see God.
alex jones
She has innocence.
And they want to corrupt that.
They want to steal that.
We're not going to let that happen.
dan friesen
Go home.
jordan holmes
Hey, Dad.
dan friesen
Stop this.
jordan holmes
Dad, first I want to say thank you for ordering pizza.
This is really good.
dan friesen
Is this Pepperoni Humans?
jordan holmes
On your show today, you said you were going to feed me people and then you put my picture up on screen.
So could you never do that again?
Or ever be on your show again?
Please stop.
dan friesen
Within like an hour, he's doing this diatribe about cannibalism and then crying about his daughter while showing a picture of her.
This can't stand.
This is not okay on a number of different levels.
jordan holmes
It's really incomprehensible.
Yeah.
And yet in 2020, it makes so much sense.
unidentified
I guess so.
jordan holmes
It really kind of does.
dan friesen
I guess so.
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't somebody be screaming about cannibalism on the radio?
It seems almost silly that it hasn't been going well.
dan friesen
That part I'm thrilled with.
I mean, I guess it does indicate that the Overton window has shifted for Alex to an almost incomprehensible...
jordan holmes
Beyond the pale, at least.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But if I had to choose this last part here where he's crying and talking about his daughter or him talking about cannibalism, I'm going to cannibalism every time.
At least that's kind of interesting and funny.
This is sad and doesn't belong on public in ways.
jordan holmes
Absolutely no.
Absolutely no.
dan friesen
And it's exploitative of his own children.
It makes me uncomfortable on her behalf.
jordan holmes
Did he ask permission to put her picture up?
I doubt it.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, I can't say yes or no because he doesn't say.
jordan holmes
For sure, but...
dan friesen
It seems to be implied that he just did it.
Yeah.
Anyway...
jordan holmes
Man, that's fucked.
dan friesen
Alex goes to another caller that I feel like he's trying to prod on to do illegal things.
jordan holmes
Hey, Alex, would you eat me?
unidentified
Brother Alex, God bless you, sir, and the crew.
alex jones
I appreciate you, Carlos.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
As usual, you are on target.
This is a fight between good and evil, sir.
This is a...
We're fighting it on many levels, but we're not fighting it spiritually.
Alex, you say yourself you are a channel.
Well, I am a channel as well, sir.
I've been given information on how to combat this.
I need Infowars' help to also combat this on a different level.
alex jones
We'll lay it on us.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
Well, one of my best friends, he's a 30-year Army vet, Pentecostal pastor.
I got all the Pentecostals ready.
It's something I can't really get into over the air because I don't like telling the enemy what I'm going to do to them.
jordan holmes
Sir, you kind of just did.
unidentified
I got a cousin.
alex jones
Everybody always over-plans it.
They're always never going to do it.
They're always waiting to launch the perfect plan.
dan friesen
Wow.
That's almost like him being like, you coward.
You have this plan.
You're not going to do shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You guys don't even know.
I'm the butt of the spear here at InfoWars, and I'm going to tell you that you're never going to do that shit.
dan friesen
Hey, dumbass.
I'm the champion of talking shit and not doing anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
You're going to bring that into my house, and I'm going to respect it?
Get the fuck out of here.
So this same caller brings up that his sister was possessed by a demon.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex deals with it about as well as he can.
unidentified
Two days from now is the one-year anniversary of my father's death, okay?
Now, I have a sister who is under demonic possession.
My father suffered for exactly 28 weeks and two days, and I know that number because that's another story.
We can get into it, God willing, one time.
But everything I saw during my father's suffering is going on right now in the world.
alex jones
No, you're right.
As above, so below, Carlos.
God bless you.
I appreciate your call, man.
All right, Nick in California.
Another call from California.
Go ahead, Nick.
dan friesen
That dude's call was not done.
He did not really make his point.
Alex just was like, oh, I'm going to hang up on this guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good call.
dan friesen
I don't want to talk about your demon possession stories.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
That's my job, not yours.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I know it's bullshit, so I can say it.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You can't.
jordan holmes
You are very serious about demon possession, and that is an issue for me, and I just said I was going to eat people.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to this next caller.
jordan holmes
I have that on my phone.
dan friesen
This next caller has a dumb point, but then he uses Infowars in a way that I remember people using it back in the earlier days.
Remember back when we listened to older episodes, people would call in and be like, hey, can I promote my blog?
Can I promote my new CD?
I feel like this caller is really doing the archetype of Infowars callers from the past.
unidentified
And I have one more thing to dirt the president real quick.
alex jones
Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified
In a second.
I have a patent for devices that reflect better, temporary devices.
Can you remember the gas can with the gas mouse that you said that doesn't work?
These devices work that will save lives, and we can bring back manufacturing just on this one first step to a thousand-mile march to bring back temporary devices.
I emailed him with Nick Mattia on his White House email several times.
All right.
alex jones
Send me the information.
God bless you, brother.
All right.
I'm glad folks are calling and trying to get a hold of Trump.
dan friesen
So, he's now, like, instead of promoting your CD or whatever, he now is like, you can get an invention you have to the president.
jordan holmes
1-800-INVENTION or whatever it is.
dan friesen
I mean, they're both delusional.
Like, Infowars being an outlet for your new album is ridiculous.
But it's equally ridiculous that, hey, I'm going to call into Infowars and the president's going to hear about my patent that's going to save manufacturing in America.
jordan holmes
That's all I needed to hear.
dan friesen
So Alex gets another caller and it's a woman who is scared.
She's a little bit upset.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't really care to get into any of the content of it, but Alex's response is really weird.
alex jones
You're upset.
That's a normal thing.
So you're an early warning system.
You care.
So you're upset.
I don't want you to be on the same way.
But that strength, your voice tremulating, that's like the alarm.
Like a woman concerned is like powerful.
Like I just feel powerful hearing your voice concerned.
That's like a bell that you ring that, Sonny, the men will respond.
Do you see that?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I feel it.
Good.
dan friesen
Ooh, that's really weird.
jordan holmes
That's creepy.
dan friesen
I hear a scared woman and it gives me power.
jordan holmes
The phrasing on that is an issue.
I love eating the ass of scared women.
I'll tell you that right now.
dan friesen
It gives you power.
jordan holmes
It gives you so much power.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a really strange...
Thing to hear.
I think I understand what he's trying to say.
jordan holmes
I think so, too.
dan friesen
You get the adrenaline to come to people's aid or whatever.
Someone in crisis, if you can help them.
All the archetypal stories of people lifting up cars to get someone dislodged or whatever.
I think that's what he's trying to say, but first of all, it's very sexist.
And second, he doesn't know how to speak.
Because it sounds like...
I gain power from scared women.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem like he's trying to reference his chivalrous bullshit.
Yes, definitely.
I hear a woman in danger and I become so powerful to save her.
dan friesen
Right, and it's the same thing with I'm not worried about my son, but I'm worried about my daughter.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's all that same.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because women can't protect themselves and they need to be infantilized and put in a little box somewhere so they're safe.
dan friesen
So also on this episode, Alex interviews Jim Hoft from Gateway Pundit, but I don't care.
I found it incredibly boring.
Sure.
So we have one last clip, and it's Alex signing off, and he did not get to the caller as he expected to, and this includes one of the saddest, lamest sales pitches you'll ever hear.
This side of the Mississippi.
alex jones
All right.
I'm sorry to Brendan and Mike.
I got to go.
If you get their name and number, we'll call them back tomorrow, and I appreciate you to come on the show then.
And we fund ourselves the products at n4store.com.
We want to stay here and get them, plus the great products.
Who knows how long you can even get them.
I suggest you get them.
Woof.
unidentified
But these are the times of try men's souls.
alex jones
We're on a planet in deep space, folks.
You don't think we just live here and be in peace.
No, there's bad stuff, but God's given us a way to counter it.
And deal with it.
So, Paul Joseph Watson's taking over Infowars.com, NewsWars.com.
If you don't share those links and articles, who will?
unidentified
Who will?
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, the sales pitch of, like, good products, who knows how long you'll be able to get them, so you might as well get them.
That's...
jordan holmes
I mean, Jimmy Carson set an end date for his...
Jimmy?
Oof, man.
Johnny Carson set an end date.
dan friesen
There's a lot of Jimmy late-night hosts now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
There's tons.
And, you know, he had a whole couple weeks of just looking back at his career.
He had real softball interviews.
Everybody celebrated his career.
dan friesen
The last week of Conan was just going over the top.
Exactly.
In a lashing out kind of way.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They had Robert Zweig.
They let him have free reign like the insane person that he is.
dan friesen
Alex talks about cannibalism.
jordan holmes
This is not how you go.
This is not how you go out.
That's all I'm saying.
It's not a classy move.
dan friesen
I would say not classy, certainly.
But if you do have to flame out, I do definitely appreciate the cannibalism talk.
I mean, when I heard that, I thought...
I don't even know how to...
I can't tell you how much I was laughing while I was cutting clips.
unidentified
I was just like, this guy, this fucking guy.
dan friesen
When it started, I thought like, this is just Alex being stupid.
And it kept going.
I've listened to Alex every day for three years, and I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
I couldn't believe that someone wasn't like, hey, Alex, this is too much.
This is too much.
You are going on and on about brutally murdering your neighbors and eating them, eating a globalist on a steak.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
It's too much, man.
jordan holmes
That might be a bit hot.
dan friesen
I just couldn't believe it.
And then when he got off the topic and came back to it and talked about feeding his kids and saying it's beef, it's just ludicrous.
jordan holmes
Honestly, this is a little bit how I want Alex Trebek's last Jeopardy episode to go.
I think that would be the...
And now your daily double...
I'm sorry.
Cannibalism.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
What's about to happen to you?
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
The answer is, what is eating your neighbors?
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
No one expected Alex to deal with the ideas of his own show's mortality gracefully, and I guess we just couldn't imagine that this would be the vibe.
jordan holmes
Still surprising.
Still surprising.
dan friesen
And I gotta say, what's next?
If we're here now...
What's Wednesday's show like?
jordan holmes
This is like one of those old relationships where they're like, how do you guys stay together for so long?
You know?
Because they can still surprise me.
It's a new adventure every day.
dan friesen
I almost feel like Wednesday's show is going to be the most boring, normal thing ever.
jordan holmes
It has to be.
dan friesen
It's going to be so disappointing.
jordan holmes
It has to be.
dan friesen
But we'll see.
And we'll be back, Jordan.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
That's right.
You can go to knowledgefight.com slash seltzer to find out about seltzers.
jordan holmes
Keep up with the year of the seltzer.
dan friesen
That's right.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and I go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
And we are, and if you'd like to download the show, please go to iTunes, Ray Review, Patreon, and if you would like, please donate to a local charity of your choice.
dan friesen
Indeed.
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm the author of The Book of Jose.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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