Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the end of the past week on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex discusses his plan to record the final episode of his show, which is to be released after he's taken off air. That ends up being just as dumb and dramatic as it sounds.
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12 seltzers tried, which is a jump from the three at the point of our last recording.
And what I'm going to do is, whenever we do a check-in on the year of the seltzer, what I'm going to do is I'm going to bring to you some of the standouts.
I like to have fun with definitions, so let's consult a couple of dictionaries and see what other meanings we can find for the word lockdown, other than the very specific one Alex is using about prison riots.
According to dictionary.com, another meaning for lockdown is a freeze or a pause.
The word can be used to describe a temporary state of affairs that requires a pausing of normal activity.
Now, what's even more fun is if we consult Merriam-Webster and find the definition for martial law.
Quote, the law administered by military forces that's invoked by a government in an emergency when the civilian law enforcement agencies are unable to maintain public order and safety.
According to Encyclopedia Britannica, one of the most defining characteristics of martial law is the military takes over the administration of justice, and none of that stuff is happening at all right now.
And if it were happening, the only person who could invoke it would be Trump.
This highlights an interesting problem with Alex's rhetoric.
I don't think he knows what martial law is, yet it's his primary fear and his branding.
He seems to think that martial law is just any kind of law he doesn't like, or rules or guidelines that he finds inconvenient.
And that's not what martial law is.
I think he just knows that the name of it is scary to people, and he's just going to yell about it all the time, not having any idea.
And also, I went down a long rabbit hole looking at the history of martial law, and two of the most important figures in terms of the early history of the definition of martial law...
Alex has literally spent years yelling about how it doesn't matter if Russian actors spread misinformation on social media in order to help Trump in the 2016 election and how that's completely meaningless.
But now he seems to think it's the biggest deal in the world that some Chinese actors have done something on social media.
Seems like a problem from a consistency standpoint, but whatever.
So Alex is trying to get the idea out, and this is the way he's covering the story, is that the entirety of the virus panic in the United States is the result of the machinations of Chinese agents, and that this New York Times story that he's referring to proves it all.
This New York Times story is from April 22nd, and it has a headline, quote, Chinese agents helped spread messages that sowed virus panic in the United States, officials say.
Like I said, he's trying to use this headline to suggest that the entirety of the fear surrounding the virus is a Chinese misinformation campaign, but that is not what this article is about.
This article is about messages and texts that spread around about Trump being set to lock down the entire United States back in mid-March.
From the article, this passage begins with a section of the message in question.
Quote, they will announce this as soon as they have troops in place to prevent looters and rioters, warned one of the messages which cited a source in the Department of Homeland Security.
Quote, he said he got the call last night and was told to pack and be prepared for the call today with his dispatch orders.
This is an article about misinformation campaigns that take advantage of the virus situation.
But Alex wants the presentation to be that the virus situation itself only feels so severe because of this misinformation campaign, which is just not supported by his source.
If China is in fact doing this, like what the New York Times article is describing, then fuck them.
That's really shitty.
But it's still not what Alex is talking about.
Also, this article relies on an assessment from the intelligence community who Alex is supposed to not trust and be against.
And while we're on the subject, isn't the New York Times supposed to be run by the globalists who are in bed with China?
Why would they be running a story about Chinese agents spreading misinformation?
So now the globalists, I don't know if you've heard this, the globalists, because of the quarantine, have split into six separate factions now, one of whom controls the New York Times that is fighting against the other five, three of whom are pro-China, two of whom are anti-Russia but pro-Trump, and the three who are pro-China are all over the map, Dan.
But you know, I shouldn't be negative because last night, I was driving home and I pulled up to a red light and a black woman in her Ford F-150 rolled down the window and said, we love you, Alex, and Bill Gates is going to burn in hell.
Then this morning, I was walking through a parking lot and a guy drove by in a plumbing repair truck.
It wasn't a van.
It was a truck.
And he rolls down the window and he goes, F Bill Gates.
I wonder what it was that threw him off his game that morning, maybe, that his ex-wife filed a motion to stay the hearing that he was expecting to have that day?
So now, a couple points I want to make here about the two things that Alex is comparing in terms of relative sexiness.
So, there are people who are talking about the issues of the potential food crises in the developing world.
Those people are officials in the UN who Alex hates, and thus, we can't possibly accept that they're actually the ones raising the alarm about this issue that Alex is trying to pretend no one is talking about.
Also, reopening our economy fully will not solve that problem.
If we reopen everything prematurely, we run a real risk of seeing infections and deaths skyrocket, at which point our economy will be in a far more severe situation than it is in now.
The choice between safety and protecting the economy is a false choice, and the thing that will help people in the developing world the most is for us to continue and accelerate our commitment to providing foreign aid for people in other countries who are in need, even as times get tough here.
That's a policy choice that Trump could make, and he should.
Second, as to the issue of all deaths being labeled coronavirus deaths, Alex is just lying about that.
It all traces back to an April 7th press conference in which Dr. Birx said that, quote, if someone dies with COVID-19, we're counting that as a COVID-19 death.
This is in line with the CDC guidance, which says that patients who die with COVID-19 positive tests should have that listed on their death certificates.
And if a test isn't available, it should be listed, quote, if the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty.
Fact Check spoke to Mark Lipschitz, a professor of epidemiology at Harvard, who did concede that there would be a small number of cases of people listed as COVID-19 deaths when that is not what led to their deaths.
But, quote, a greater issue is errors in the other direction.
Deaths caused by COVID that are not counted as such.
He went on to say, quote, They also spoke to Sally Aiken, Spokane County medical examiner and president of the National Association of Medical Examiners, who said, quote, The true facts are that COVID-19 deaths likely will be underreported on death certificates, not overreported.
This will especially be true as deaths that occur in homes and not in hospitals mount.
Not all jurisdictions are able to test home deaths with typical symptoms for COVID-19.
Alex can play games by spinning Birx's comments all he wants, but it doesn't change the reality that the medical professionals in this country are not just taking every death and calling it a COVID death because that's sexy.
It's equally untrue that no one is talking about the food-related humanitarian crisis that's looming because it's not sexy enough.
Alex is just making these things up because that's what works for his narratives.
I mean, just more simply, if you want to start talking about food, food banks are running absolutely direly low, and they're letting food spoil because they can't sell it to groceries.
Like, it is absolutely disgusting.
It is fucking tragic that we are letting so much food just die when so many people need it.
Now, also, in that clip, even if Alex didn't say something threw him off his game this morning, I think you can tell that he's not in game shape on this episode.
It's drastic.
How bad he is at his job.
Just, like, stammering and kind of, like, long pauses.
He doesn't seem to know where he's going with anything.
It's really, it's jarring.
Like, this is a real, like, shocking kind of example of that.
He's talking about closing InfoWars and quitting in order for him to be able to retain a certain amount of wealth and carrying on living a reasonably comfortable life.
Yeah, that's what he's talking about.
Because none of this makes sense in any other context.
Sure, there's a worldwide pandemic going on, but that is not reason for Alex to quit.
When shit gets weird or bad, that's when propagandists and conspiracy liars make their bread.
All of the things that have put Alex on the map are examples of him exploiting tragedy and profiting off other people's pain.
From his co-opting of the Waco standoff at the beginning of his career, to him rising to prominence as a 9-11 truther.
Think about the highlights of his career.
Sandy Hook denialism, lying about the Boston bombing, consistent antagonism towards immigrants and the LGBTQ community.
All he does is profit off pain.
And this situation is a perfect opportunity for him.
It's almost like a meatball right in the center of the plate.
I just don't believe that absent other circumstances, Alex would see what's happening in the world as anything other than a chance for him to make a shitload of money.
And that's exactly how he behaved in the early days of the outbreak.
Maybe Alex is taking this so seriously because the globalists are threatening him, right?
He wants us to think that the globalists are threatening him, but that makes literally no sense, given that his entire career has been full of claims that the globalists are actively threatening him all the time.
He's said that they've made attempts on his life before, and that very specific threats have been made.
They tried to pretend that Jerome Corsi's coverage of the Seth Rich conspiracy shit was so dangerous to the globalists that he had to make a dead man switch.
One of the defining features of Alex's broadcast style is a constant insistence that the globalists are threatening his life.
He needs people to think that's happening because it allows him to pretend that the topics he's covering are somehow dangerous and, by extension, accurate.
However, he's been making these threats up the entire time, as he is now.
Threats from the globalists should always be understood as code for consequences of Alex's actions.
Sandy Hook's victim's family suing Alex is presented as a globalist attack, but it's really the consequence of his actions lying about them and helping subject them to vicious harassment.
Whatever he's talking about now is no different, whether it's the impending fine from the FDA or some other case that he knows is going to destroy him.
Alex is preparing his audience to believe that no matter what consequences come his way, it's really just evil globalists punishing him for being such an effective thorn in his side.
That's why his leg is in the trap and he's got to cut it off.
So I guess that must be the big news because he's saying, I haven't gotten to the big news and then immediately references that story that he has already talked about a little bit.
I don't know.
Anyway, Alex is a dumb douche.
In this next clip, he talks about like, hey, look, we're responding to this situation in one way, but what if we responded to other things in history the same way?
The first is that the Civil War was fought literally before the development of germ theory.
We didn't know how diseases spread at that point.
And according to a 1993 report in the journal Clinical Infectious Disease, quote, two-thirds of the approximately 660,000 deaths of soldiers were caused by uncontrolled infectious disease and epidemics played a major role in halting several major campaigns.
This article estimates that these diseases prolong the war.
by as much as two years.
Soldiers in the Civil War had to deal with outbreaks of measles, malaria, smallpox, and a bunch of other conditions that doctors at the time had no idea what to do with or how to prevent.
If medical science had any idea about what infectious diseases were in the 1860s, it's entirely possible that hostilities might have been postponed amid outbreaks.
Even as it was, many battles were delayed because of disease.
So I have no idea what Alex thinks he's talking about.
Also, I'm going to leave aside the whole notion that the Civil War was fought to give black people rights, considering that the Civil Rights Act wasn't passed until 1964 and the Voting Rights Act was passed the next year.
The question of what it means to get rights is a messy, complicated question that I'd prefer not to unpack right now, since it's secondary to a more important point, and you brought this up.
Alex should not think the Civil War was fought to give black people rights.
He does not believe that the Civil War was about slavery.
He said that on countless occasions.
His relatives fought on the side of the Confederacy, and he's been very insistent that it was mostly about protectionism and states' rights.
But now, here he is using the Civil War as a notable example of a war fought to give black people rights that would have been disrupted by an outbreak like the one we're seeing now.
The point I want to make here is that Alex doesn't ever say shit.
His words mean nothing.
When it's expedient for him and he wants to appeal to his racist base, the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery, you dumb SJWs.
When it's important to pretend that his stupid anti-distancing protests are the equivalent of abolitionists in the 1850s, the Civil War was fought to give black people rights.
He can argue both things because he doesn't mean anything he says.
So, there's another thing that Alex teases a whole bunch on this episode that he never really pays off at all, and that is that he believes that all Trump media, except for himself, all the right-wing media, has been paid off by the Chinese.
And if we, the people, control the government, and that if our will in the legislators and the president we elect is executed dutifully, if there's mistakes made, I understand.
But if you've got the spirit and you're on the right direction, then, you know, a few broken eggs, I'm not going to piss myself.
But I've been an enemy of U.S. intelligence agencies and law enforcement for decades because they've been run by the globalists.
The minute they began to come under U.S. control, I'm their biggest fan.
Let me translate Alex's explanation of why he's not against the intelligence community this time.
All he's saying is that he accepts the things the intel community says when it matches up with what he wants to believe and accuses them of being dirty globalists anytime they say something that contradicts a position he wants to advance.
Yeah, I mean, even that itself is so autocratic of just like, when they do what I say they should do, Then they're good people, and when they don't, they're bad people.
I should have complete control over everyone's actions.
Honestly, the thing that I think about that the most is that Charlie Daniels would definitely approve of that.
All of Alex's use of his song.
He might be the only person who would be like, get him, Alex.
Everybody else would be like, fuck you.
Stop playing our music.
Charlie Daniels would be all about it.
All about it.
So there's a real conflict that I have about Alex using the concept and the idea and the image of people dealing with hunger into the developing world as a prop in his narratives.
I find it to be really offensive because Alex doesn't care.
And thankfully in this next clip he explains that he really doesn't care about those people.
And I know the globalists want to get rid of the population.
And I know that when they get me to accept killing old people and they get me to accept starving the third world to death, that that's really myself and my family that are targeted.
So I care about those people that are being killed, but I...
Care about them out of self-interest, and Brian Rose is our guest at LondonReal.tv.
It's all good and well for them to complain, but this is really just an hour-long promo for how Brian is going to do another interview with David Icke and how he's trying to start his own YouTube.
So we have one last clip from the 23rd, and it's Alex again discussing this idea that the right-wing media is taking Chinese money, but he won't get specific.
I said 11 weeks ago with Dr. Steve Pacinic that this was already in the population and that they already knew it and that a lot of folks had already died from pneumonia-like symptoms.
So I couldn't find a New York Times story that matches what Alex is talking about.
As such, I'm kind of left to use context clues to figure out what he's rambling on about.
I've reviewed a bunch of possibilities, and I'm pretty sure Alex is just misrepresenting comments that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo made about the timeline of the outbreak.
Cuomo was talking about the delay in action and said, quote, so what's the lesson?
An outbreak anywhere is an outbreak everywhere.
When you see in November and December an outbreak in China, just assume the next day it's in the United States.
When they say it's in China, just assume the virus got on a plane that night and flew to New York, and flew to New York Airport, and now it's in New York.
That has to be the operating mentality, because you don't know that the virus didn't get on a plane.
All you need is one person to get on that plane in China and come to New York.
The way the virus transfers, that's all you need, and you can't assume two months later that the virus is still going to be sitting on a park bench in China waiting for you to get there.
Cuomo wasn't admitting that there were cases in November or December.
He was saying that your mindset in November and December should be to assume that there are.
The bottom line is this has nothing to do with there being cases of COVID-19 in the United States in November.
As far as we know, there's pretty solid consensus that the first known case was this of the coronavirus in the United States, presented on January 19th, and was a guy in Washington who arrived at a hospital having a cough and a fever for four days.
He'd returned from visiting family in Wuhan on January 15th.
Is it possible that there were cases prior to that?
I mean, it's not impossible, it's just pretty unlikely according to experts.
Alex has done nothing to demonstrate his assertion, and until he does, he's just talking shit.
I challenge Alex to show his work, and saying that Steve Pachanik said so isn't good enough.
Now, I've been told, and at a certain point I'll go public with this, but I've been warned and I've been told, if you don't shut up, you're dead or we're going to put you in prison.
And now they're prepared to put me in prison right now.
In order for Alex to be put in prison, there would need to be a crime.
There would need to be a criminal charge.
I don't know if I'm aware of any crimes that Alex is looking good for right now on a criminal level.
Beyond that...
In order for him to be sent to prison, he would need to stand trial.
And if he were innocent, he'd have every opportunity to prove it.
He's a rich white dude.
He would be afforded every benefit of the justice system.
I don't believe that any of these imaginary globalists, if they were real, would ever want to put Alex on trial.
Even if he's guilty as shit, all you're doing is giving him a gigantic platform to play the victim and create his own martyrdom narrative.
So I guess they'd have to kill him.
But that makes even less sense.
This entire time, for Alex's whole career, his answer to why he wasn't dead yet was because he was too high profile, so the globalists knew that killing him would only make him more powerful.
They knew that killing Alex would only confirm that his narratives were true, or so Alex believed.
Is that no longer the case?
Because Alex is still super high profile, so it would stand to reason that the globalists know that they can't kill him without inadvertently proving him right about all the bullshit he yells all the time.
To be clear, I don't believe that Alex is alive because he's too high profile to kill.
I think he's alive because none of the public figures he targets really care about what he says, and they rightly view him as an idiot.
But for 25 years, Alex has argued that he's only alive because he's high profile, but now I guess that doesn't mean anything.
The only reason the globalists never killed Alex before is out the window, and I guess he's been told he's fair game or something.
This is all a load of shit, and it's clearly a preemptive narrative about something.
He knows his days on air are numbered, and he's gotta be sure that there's a myth in place before that so no one thinks his downfall was his own fault.
For posterity's sake, he has to make sure you know that he was the victim in all this, which is great.
Listeners have been sending him intel on Bill Gates, which is funny because you've been studying him for decades, apparently, allegedly, but now he's got new information.
There's one piece of new information which we'll get to at the end of this episode, and it is a dud.
I just had the image of some aide, some personal assistant to Bill Gates just walking up to him, leaning down real close and just whispering in his ear, Alex Jones wants you to know that...
He will gladly die if it keeps you from killing people.
And Bill Gates just nodding George W. Bush style, just like, kill him.
During World War II, he was the personal assistant to Rear Admiral John Godfrey, the Director of Naval Intelligence, so he was in the mix of some intelligence stuff, but Alex is inflating that.
Also, Moonraker came out in 1955, not in the 60s.
Also, all the stuff Alex is talking about...
None of that stuff is in Ian Fleming's book version of Moonraker.
That's all just from the movie, which Ian Fleming did not write the screenplay for, and pretty much has nothing to do with other than the book has the same title.
You see, what happened was that in the closing credits of The Spy Who Loved Me, it says Bond will be back in For Your Eyes Only, which was planned to be the next Bond movie produced.
But then, Star Wars came out, and it was a gigantic box office hit.
The producers decided to shelve for your eyes only and go with something that could involve space, and the title Moonraker is about as space sounding as Fleming's titles got.
The plot of the book is that there's a guy named Hugo Drax who's building a nuclear missile defense system for England called Moonraker.
It turns out Drax is secretly a Nazi, and he's planned this whole thing in order to nuke London.
Bond foils the plan and saves the day, more or less your standard Bond storyline.
No space, no false flags, no bioweapons or hiding out in orbit or bunkers or whatever.
The film version is a bit different.
However, it wasn't written by Ian Fleming.
It was written by a guy named Christopher Wood, who had previously written a series of sex romps under the pen name Timothy Lee.
The entire plot was changed.
Moonraker was no longer a defense system.
It was a space shuttle.
In the movie version, Drax plans to head to space and then release nerve gas onto the planet to kill people, eventually repopulating the planet with people he thinks are from good stock.
There's plenty of discussion about this among Bond fans, so this is a completely different movie from the book that Fleming wrote, and it's super, super clear that the reason that they were doing that was trying to cash in on Star Wars.
It's run by people like Bill Gates and Bill Clinton who are sickos.
And it's all about power?
And then you find out they're hitting the entire genetic line of the public and have programs designed to target leadership males with high IQs and to target them.
For drugging and then for not having positions in society.
Yeah, I mean, I think that if you're a sincere actor and you're opposed to the sort of thing like eugenics or an extermination, it wouldn't be like, my problem is who's carrying it out.
And there are going to be people dying and throwing up.
They'll go, everybody stay in your houses.
It's okay.
And then the robot trash trucks are going to come around and a robot's going to go in and put you and your dead family in the back of that trash truck.
If you know it's going to happen either way, doesn't it make sense to just, like, get it over and done with, as opposed to being like, hey, we'll fight as hard as we can for an extra ten years?
You just need to have communities that say, hey, we're not liberal.
We're not conservative.
We want to conserve humanity.
We're pro-human.
And just have laws where...
Real safety studies that are out there have to be followed and where all this crap's prohibited and we know we're not going to have the local convicted pedophile come have, you know, the five-year-old sit in their lap at school and just where all this evil is not allowed.
And they're going to attack those communities.
It's okay.
That'll drive us closer together to make us stronger.
But the exodus has to happen.
We have to get out of these cities fast.
We can't wait anymore.
We've got to launch a worldwide movement to escape the kill grid.
The cities are giant mass murder bioweapon electromagnetic cookers.
So, first things first, Shiva Aidure is a rare person on InfoWars who actually has some credentials.
He has a PhD in Biological Engineering from MIT, but the claim that he invented email is where things start to get a little off track.
Shiva claims that in 1978 or 1979 or maybe 1980, at the age of 14, he invented email, and that his achievement has not been recognized because he's not white and he didn't work in the realm of the system.
This is one possibility, or another possibility that some people have pointed out is that email existed prior to 1978.
There were large computer networks that were linked for communications in the early 1970s through ARPANET, and I have no idea what to even do with these claims.
Ayduray wanted the Smithsonian to recognize him as the inventor of email, so he sent them a bunch of documentation.
And this is the Smithsonian's statement upon review.
Quote, exchanging messages through computer systems, what most people call email, predates the work of Ayduray.
However, the museum found Ayduray's materials served as signposts to several stories about the American experience.
So they accepted his materials because they reflected his experience in the early days of computing.
And that was relevant to history.
Did it.
Did it.
This claim is clearly undefendable in court, seeing as he doesn't own Gmail.
And places like the Washington Post have had to print corrections after accidentally referring to him as the inventor of email.
I suspect he had the good sense to realize he wasn't going to make it out of the GOP primary, so he ran as an independent, ultimately getting 3.4% of the vote.
At this point, he's running in the GOP primary for the 2020 election, hoping to unseat Ed Markey.
I predict he'll be running as an independent again.
Since the coronavirus situation has broken out, Ida Ray has gone full-on conspiracy weirdo and started spouting a bunch of the bullshit narratives we've heard Alex disseminate.
On March 23rd, he published a letter that he sent to Trump where he talked shit about Dr. Fauci and suggested that all people needed was some vitamins and iodine.
That'd be good to go with no need to quarantine or distance or anything like that.
As he told Politico, quote, we have bureaucrats who run science and bureaucrats who run medicine, and you can talk to pretty much anyone in academia.
They'll tell you behind closed doors that Fauci epitomizes that.
Ooh, Fauci, this disgusting bureaucrat who graduated first in his class at Cornell Medical School, who holds a medical degree, unlike Ida Ray.
Ida Ray and past InfoWars guest and fellow Senate campaign loser, Diana Lorraine, are two of the most prominent voices in the fire Fauci camp.
And this has nothing to do directly with Ida Ray, but I wanted to read this little passage from Politico about Lorraine's complaints about Fauci.
Quote, his projections have changed constantly.
I think he first started predicting 2 million plus deaths, Lorraine complained, saying she understood the number as the total number of projected deaths.
Quote, and now it's down to 60,000.
And you know, why such a sudden change?
That's a pretty drastic change.
The 2 million plus number comes from the famous Imperial College study, forecasting the results of an environment with no social distancing measures taken at all.
Lower mortality projections are the result of extreme social distancing, such as shelter-in-place orders and business closures.
Lorraine said she did not know about that distinction.
Anyway, it doesn't look like Ayduray invented email, and he's in the middle of just this lunatic blitz trying to rile up the Trump base for his doomed run in the 2020 congressional election.
It's all very pathetic and dumb, but it's also causing direct harm to people, probably, so I hope he has trouble sleeping it.
I'd be a real bummer to invent something and then suddenly put your head like you're in your room like studying and you're trying to get everything and you invent this system and you're like, this shit is going to change the world and then you pop your head out and everybody's like, we've had that for a while now.
Well, I mean, it would still be really impressive and I think that you could probably get a lot of respect within those worlds if you didn't Insist you needed to be seen as the inventor of the...
Like, trying to take away the work and the achievements of people who came before you I think turns off a lot of people.
This isn't like an Isaac Newton situation where nobody else had shared it with anybody before and then he invents it and they're like, no, no, no, we already found it.
How many have died worldwide from the virus that they're hyping up and counting every death that has these tests for COVID-19 that they admit are all incorrect, almost all of them false positives?
If you've ever had the flu in the last year or so, you test positive.
If you have the coronavirus, there's thousands of them.
Well, then you test positive COVID-19.
And the people that are rallying around the hysteria in the left want to keep America shut down.
They want to create a mental illness.
They want to create a phobia where you just expect, oh, you can't go in the ocean.
Sharks will eat you, even though only about 30 people a year get eaten by sharks worldwide, they estimate.
He's saying that there are 30 people eaten by sharks every year, when in reality, it's only four people who are killed by sharks every year on average.
Last year, it was only two.
Now, this might seem like a minuscule distinction, and it might feel like I'm nitpicking, but I'm not.
The difference between 4 and 30 is a 750% error, which is very significant.
And sure, you can say that I'm being a dick.
The point Alex is trying to make is that there aren't that many shark attacks, but we fear them because of movie depictions and stuff like that, and fair enough.
I'm not disputing that point.
I'm saying that Alex just made up the 30 number to try and act like he actually knows how many people get eaten by sharks every year.
He doesn't.
It's completely made up as a number.
He's just trying to make up a number that sounds small to him, but in actuality, it's way, way higher than the real-world number.
This is a deceptively important point.
A lot of the time, Alex knows something.
In this case, that there aren't that many shark attacks.
He wants to convey that point, that we think that there are more shark attacks than there actually are, because he wants to use that as an analog to the virus.
But he thinks that just saying there aren't that many shark attacks, that doesn't sound good enough to be convincing and authoritative.
So he just makes up something to fill in the gaps.
He knows his audience have no idea how many people are eaten by sharks, and he knows that they'll just believe whatever number he says, so he pulls 30 out of his ass.
He does this all the time, with small details like this and big narratives.
This is what he does with headlines.
He knows what the headline of an article says, so he just runs with that and makes up the details of what he assumes are in the article.
He's seen the movie Moonraker, so he just assumes the book is the same, and he makes up stuff about Ian Fleming writing it in order to reveal the globalist plots.
A microcosm of Alex's career is very well encapsulated in a throwaway lie about people getting eaten by sharks.
Just make stuff up in order to fill in the gaps that he wants to.
It's all nonsense.
Once you start to realize that, you really start to see it everywhere.
There's another small problem with that is that this isn't like sharks because the only way it would be like sharks is if when you got bitten by a shark, you became a shark yourself.
Then maybe there's a little bit of a comparison between the two of them.
Also, there's a little difference between being eaten by sharks and being killed by sharks.
So, we get to Dr. Shiva coming in, and there's trouble right out of the gate.
Because Alex, like I said, he has two guests on that episode.
And it turns out that Dr. Shiva does not like Alex's other guest.
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Big Pharma is failing.
They need to put in big vaccines.
And as we've gone after them, like bloodhounds, particularly with the Fire Fauci campaign and the immune system work I've done, you know what happens, Alex?
There are people like Robert Kennedy Jr., who's been in this movement for a long freaking time, who has suppressed this movement from people building a bottoms-up movement, who goes finds other people, like one of the guys you're going to have on your show.
and pushes those people forward.
They speak the same rhetoric, but there's Zippo on Hillary Clinton.
Nothing.
Because Robert Kennedy endorsed Hillary Clinton three times, and the entire Kennedy family posts Well, listen, I know you're in Massachusetts, and so we just so happen to have this other guest that you disagree with on later.
There's a lot of crazy stuff going on here, and I really like Dr. Shiva Idiray.
He really is a smart guy, and Troy, hearing him talk, and we happen to have this Dr. Rashid Batar already set up because he's been criticizing Bill Gates.
He's been criticizing the vaccines, and man, Dr. Shiva Idiray was getting really upset, saying, well, I can't be on the same time with this guy.
I'm like, well, you're not going to be on the same time with him.
He's like, well, I can't come on.
That guy's going to be on.
I'm like, well, I don't do the ultimatum stuff, so that's just the way it is.
And, you know, the show kind of becomes this deal of, oh, this guy's coming up for Hillary Clinton.
I'm like, telling him on air and off air, I'm like, go ahead.
And if you dislike somebody and you want to come on the show and we're talking about that, you can do it.
But so many people, these media shows become who can go on whose show.
People always say, don't go on Alex Jones' show.
And then people say, well, if you have that person on, I won't go on your show.
And I just don't do that.
I don't do that.
That's not what I'm involved in.
Everything's completely transparent here.
And, I mean, I guess I'll still have this Dr. Rasheed Bataar on.
I want to hear what he has to say.
Because he's criticizing Bill Gates and talking about Fauci being full of crap.
And we know that Fauci is full of baloney.
And so we're here exposing that, and that's what we do.
So there's that train wreck that you just saw part of off-air, and so I think I'm going to just probably table this issue and move on.
So Alex says that Rashid Batar is a medical doctor.
As it turns out, he's an osteopath, which in and of itself isn't a horrible thing, but when you're an osteopath on Infowars, you're automatically very suspect.
And suspect is a great word for Batar.
In 2007, the North Carolina Medical Board recommended that Batar no longer be allowed to treat children and cancer patients after founding that he charged a whole bunch of money to apply unproven treatments on patients.
Incidentally, one of the treatments he apparently used was IV hydrogen peroxide, which is bleach.
Buttar is famous because he had an association with fellow anti-vaxxer Jenny McCarthy and because the media played along with his bullshit in 2009.
An aspiring cheerleader for the Washington football team named Desiree Jennings claimed that a flu shot had given her dystonia, a neurological disorder, but she was cured by Buttar's chelation treatments.
Chief among them, according to the initial story about her case in the Luden Times, she saw over 60 doctors trying to diagnose her condition.
From the article, quote, Desiree has seen her primary care physician, physical therapist, speech therapist, neurologist, neuropsychologist, psychiatrist, and a bevy of nurses.
Amazingly, it was her physical therapist who provided the clinical diagnosis, dystonia.
That's intensely suspicious.
The fact that she saw a neurologist who didn't catch this, but somehow her physical therapist did, that's weird.
I have no idea what the reality of the situation is, but I don't see any proof that this is what she had, nor do I see any evidence that this was caused by a flu shot, nor do I see any evidence that Batar did anything to cure her.
Jennings' case was championed by Jenny McCarthy and her group Generation to Rescue as an argument against vaccines, and the media ran with it on shows like Inside Edition.
They pointed to the fact that her case was reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System to give it elevated credibility, although that would end up being a bad move.
These reports in that system don't contain identifying information, but they are public, and dystonia is super rare, so there aren't many cases that are filed with that as a symptom.
The examiner looked into it and found her adverse event report, and it includes this line.
Quote, I don't mean to mock Jennings at all because it's entirely clear that she...
She was very likely suffering with a real condition that she was trying to get help with.
It just doesn't seem like this had anything to do with the flu shot.
It's really just unfortunate that in all likelihood, she was used by people with a ridiculous anti-vaccination agenda.
Anyway, that's how Rashid Batar got a bunch of attention by being attached to this case.
Whenever I was still doing the hearing aids thing, somebody told me that their yoga instructor told them that they had Lyme disease.
And they just were like, so we went to the real doctor, or they didn't say real doctor, but I'm editorializing there.
We went to the doctor and he said that nothing was wrong, so then we went to Florida and tried these experimental treatments for Lyme disease, and you're like, oh god, no.
If he was so concerned with people starving in the developing world, why did he support Ron Paul, who's been preaching the gospel of eliminating all foreign aid since at least 1980, which would lead to the deaths of untold numbers of people?
Why hasn't Alex cared at all that an average of 9 million people die of hunger-related conditions every year?
Why hasn't that been a part of his normal coverage, let's say back in 2020?
I find it that there would probably be an overlap between the people that he would be fine with getting exterminated and the people currently starving to death.
If you consult The World Counts, which tracks hunger statistics, you'll see that a lot of progress has been made in terms of tackling the world hunger crisis, but there's still a lot of work to do.
In 1990, there were over 1 billion people living in hunger, but by 2015, that number was down to 784 million.
Obviously, still way too many, but that's a drop of about 20%, which is not nothing.
Every year since then, we've seen a reversal of that trend, and by 2018, we're back up to 822 million people struggling with hunger and undernourishment.
surrounding this, according to the UN, is that countries where hunger is on the rise are seeing rising income inequality, which is compounding the problem for the most vulnerable populations.
Water is another crisis, and both of these issues are only going to get worse as the effects of climate change become more pronounced.
It's deeply disgraceful for Alex to point to all the people around the world living in severe food insecurity and pretend that somehow if we were able to go to the movies it would all be okay.
It wouldn't be.
But don't kid yourself.
It's a societal decision we're making not to put more resources towards solving these problems.
It's a policy decision to fund or not fund programs that provide food to vulnerable people and Trump doesn't seem too interested in the kind of policies that fund that stuff.
In his 2021 budget proposal, Trump looked to cut more than $180 billion from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or approximately 30% of its budget, over the next 10 years.
This would come along with cuts to programs to provide free or reduced-price school meals for kids in need.
Trump doesn't give a fuck about hungry people in the country he's the president of.
How can you even pretend for a second he cares about people who are hungry in a foreign country?
It's fucking absurd.
Considering how many times Trump has talked about and followed through with cutting funding to the UN, you have to assume he doesn't really give a shit about the effect that could have on the ability of things like the World Food Program operating.
Here's what I would say.
I admire Alex caring about people in the developing world dealing with hunger, even though I know he's only pretending to care.
I don't want to succumb to cynicism here, so I'll try to build on that pretend concern he's presenting, and I challenge him to look in the mirror and realize that the only two politicians he's ever really loved...
Ron Paul and Donald Trump would let every last person in those foreign countries die if it meant getting rid of some taxes.
And you know who would be fighting to help those hungry people?
The same people who are now, who have been for years, the people Alex insists are the villains.
On a level that, like, many of his narratives I find offensive in the same way, but it's sort of like, there's the goofy, dumb shit, like Moonraker, that's kind of like, oh, I could talk about that all day.
I want to make a very important announcement here.
I think this is the time to do it.
I've been pondering doing this for many, many years at different junctures that I knew that myself, the country, the world, was at a particularly dangerous point.
In the next few days, I'm going to come into the studio, or I might just do it live.
This is just really kind of a precursor right now.
And record my last broadcast.
Or if I die broadcast.
Because I hope to be here in 5, 10, 20 years.
I hope to turn this around.
But the climate we're in, what's happening in the world, how the globalists are now moving at lightning speed at every level, now is the time to record the final broadcast.
A broadcast that would go out after I've been killed or silenced.
And to just really make the most important statements that need to be made in a concise way.
Alex, if you have things you want to say, just fucking say them.
Cut out the bullshit theatrics of talking about recording a special episode released after you die like some kind of a low-rent dead man drop.
This dum-dum has his own radio show with no boss, no sponsors to please, and a completely browbeaten staff who clearly don't stop him from doing whatever the fuck he wants.
Does he really expect anyone with half a brain to believe there's some kind of real important information that he's been holding back for the past 25 years?
This is spectacular theater, though.
And it's either just Alex being a dramatic little baby, or it's him legend building.
If you're someone like Alex, and you know you need a satisfying denouement that leaves people puzzling over your career forever, then what better way to do that than claim you're going to record a final episode that lays everything out and then never do it?
Rumors will fly about someone who had a copy of it.
It'll become a hot debate about what was said in this mythical tape.
The only way to make this better is if he insists on doing it on VHS because his career started analog and it's going out analog.
So Alex, in the first opening salvo here, is saying that he's going to record this and it's going to be something that will be released once he's dead.
Let me just have this little short precursor to My final broadcast, which, again, I hope will not be my final broadcast, but will be one that I will air as if it was my final broadcast, so it's on record.
In case they shut us down, it at least is out there in some form, though they are good at removing things now with their AI system and all their little dutiful human helpers.
Is Alex's plan to do a show where he pretends to do his final show, but it's not going to be his final show, and it's not going to be something that will only be released in the event of his death?
Sounds like a guy who's really trying to hint to his audience that this shit is over, but he doesn't have the balls to just come out with it.
I mean, what is it for him to say on his fake last show?
What hasn't he had the time to say in a quarter century on air that he thinks he's going to prove in a couple hours?
It's distorted, and it has some evil in it, but that's only my flesh.
I can feel God's pure enlightenment and pure rage at what's going on here, and I can assure the New World Order, the Hillary Clintons, the Bill Gateses of the world, the Rothschilds, all of these New World Order people, that you are going to be destroyed.
And I can see our work together, everything you've done as listeners, as viewers, promoting the truth, being attacked for it, pushing out our articles and videos, even though they're imperfect and embarrassing in ways, but it's human, it's real, and it's uncoordinated.
Because it is coordinated.
It is absolutely real, authentic, and the enemy knows that.
Projection of the future, their will for us to survive and share.
Our time together and share our humanity.
And it's that human experience that's so beautiful.
It is the journey that's the destination.
And anyone that tells you that you're not essential, anyone that tells you you're ugly or you're bad because of where you're from or what color you are or any of that is evil.
And I just don't want folks, when you see me drug through the mud and attack, it's not about Alex Jones.
They do that because they see InfoWars.
As last man standing, as what they fear, males standing up strong and saying no and not being afraid and rallying fellow humans and then women getting involved and waking up and waking others up.
They're worried about humans coming together.
And so the reason you need to know that I'm a winner and that you're a winner is that when they say they've destroyed me, when they say they killed me or they put all these lies out, you have to understand that they did that because we were too strong.
I think Alex might have missed the point of Obi-Wan's line about how if Vader strikes him down and become more powerful than he could possibly imagine.
Alex seems to think that Obi-Wan is saying that his death will be a rallying event for the next generation of Jedi, but I don't think that's the point.
I think it's super clear that he's talking about how he'll become more powerful because he'll become one with the Force and gain all sorts of powers after he dies.
I guess you could interpret it as being about Luke being inspired to learn to become a Jedi in response to Obi-Wan's death, but that doesn't really make sense given the quote being, I shall become more powerful, and all sorts of other minutiae about Force ghosts that I have no interest in getting into or exploring.
I wouldn't expect Alex to have a good handle on this, though, because as we've seen, he's a prequels guy.
And he wanted to be like his grandparents and his father and others that had fought the British.
And he heard those stories about guys fighting 6-1, 10-1, and he aspired to that, and so he laid down his life with 180-plus other people so that other people would see an example, not a failure, but a victory.
That's victory.
Controlling yourself and fear until there's not even fear anymore, but absolute pleasure in the blessing.
Of being persecuted and being destroyed for the right thing and standing against the lies and knowing you're right and knowing you know God and knowing there's good and evil and choosing God and knowing God's real.
But the good news is everyone I know is totally rejecting stuff like together at home, world government propaganda with Lady Gaga stumbling around up there.
Lady Gaga, on record, has to have someone sleep with her in her room because demons try to eat her at night.
She admits that.
Wow, that sounds like a wonderful god you serve.
I could just instantly stand on a mountain in my mind and just see for infinity.
I have no fear.
I couldn't imagine serving a god that ravages your brain where you live in.
Anyway, Alex is talking about a 2013 lawsuit filed by Gaga's former personal assistant, wherein one of the claims that was made was that she was made to sleep in the same bed as Gaga because she didn't get her own hotel room and Lady Gaga had tasks for her even at night.
Quote, O 'Neill testified in a deposition that if Lady Gaga was watching a DVD in the middle of the night and grew tired of it, she woke her up to take out and replace the DVD.
At worst, you can say this is an instance of a pop star having unreasonable demands for a personal assistant, but Alex is taking this a little bit far.
What he's doing is combining that story with a 2012 interview Gaga did where she discussed a recurring nightmare she had involving a demonic phantom and how she discussed the dream with Deepak Chopra.
Alex has combined these two things into one story that kind of works better for his purposes but isn't true.
Those of us that do feel and do see how crazy things have gotten and who know what's happening and who already understood it, we're like, don't you see it now?
Why are you...
Why are you going along with this?
Because humans are designed to go along with each other.
You grow up in a little village and dad and grandpa and grandma take you down and you catch fish.
And when they tell you, don't go by that crocodile, later you see that crocodile eat a deer or something, you know they told you the truth.
And your whole life, people around the village were good.
There was like one guy that was crazy and bad and he got out of control and hurt somebody, so some of the men grabbed him and threw him off a cliff one time.
And your village becomes successful because you're planting crops and you're hunting and all of a sudden you're not a hundred people but you're a thousand people.
This sort of thing that Alex is expressing is really the same kind of vein as ancient alien stuff, where white people have a complete inability to imagine that non-European cultures of the past were capable of anything without some kind of outside help.
For ancient aliens people, it's using aliens to explain things like the pyramids.
Alex, it's saying the bad witch doctors had some secret knowledge of eclipses that they used to bamboozle the ignorant people.
As far back as 2136 BC, the Chinese knew perfectly well about eclipses, and according to History.com, quote, Emperor Chung Kong executed his royal astronomers, Hai and Ho, for failing to predict an eclipse.
They had folklore-based explanations for what was happening, but that didn't mean that the people were all terrified of an eclipse in the way that Alex is describing.
The Inuit people have legends about their moon god and his sister sun god fighting, which explain the lunar cycle and eclipses.
It was two quarrelsome siblings chasing each other.
The story Alex is telling is fairly close to the tradition of the Batamaliba people from Benin and Togo.
In their tradition, the two matriarchs of the world, Kayakok and Pukapuka, presided over the first village.
As it grew, people started fighting with each other, and in order to get them to stop, the two made the sun disappear.
That got people's attention, so everyone made peace with each other and gave gifts of reconciliation, and the women turned the sun back on.
This tradition continues in the Batamaliba.
They view eclipses as a time to make peace with each other.
So it kind of is like Alex's story, but it's also the opposite.
I have no idea what Alex is talking about, but it legit sounds like something from a children's movie.
If he had some kind of a citation for the art of the con originating in bad witch doctors showing up to villages around the world armed with secret knowledge of eclipses, which they then used to become rulers, I'd love to see it, but I don't know if it's based on anything real.
Interestingly, though, this exact story that Alex is telling is a trope of early English literature from the late 1800s.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Gullibility is a feature which enables British sovereignty to be maintained by the use of Western knowledge and technology to frighten the simple native into submission.
Perhaps the most famous and memorable example is the use of an eclipse to overawe the native.
In King Solomon's mind, the travelers take advantage of an eclipse to reinforce the native's belief that they are gods.
Also, side point, it's very likely that this is where Alex is taking his story from, because he keeps referring to the person in his telling as a witch doctor, which is precisely who the villain of that story is.
Quote, This is a very popular theme in literature around the time that sought to emphasize white European supremacy.
From Street's book, quote, I'm not positive that this is where Alex is getting this from, but it is like a trope of this.
This European fiction from around the time of colonial...
Yeah, so I'm not positive, and Alex never cites anything when he's talking about these witch doctors that would come because they have the secret knowledge of the brotherhood or whatever.
I'm willing to explore whatever he's bringing to the table, but from everything I can tell, it seems like these are these Eurocentric, 1800s...
Versions of stories about the quote-unquote savages.
In the past, Alex has just flatly ignored all the many, many times Trump has said completely fucked up and stupid things in his press conferences.
He just acts like those things didn't happen.
I guess, like, he must have felt like this one was too big and stupid to ignore, so he's just come up with this narrative that Trump was acting stupid because we're all so stupid.
This is amazing stuff, and it definitely doesn't sound like someone trying to rationalize another person's abusive behavior.
As for the stuff that Trump is saying about, like, UV lights, we've gone over that already.
The type of UV light that's used to disinfect things would fucking fry a human.
This is not Trump saying, hey man, isn't the sun wonderful?
It's him talking about his ass about technology he does not understand.
So here's what Trump said in the press conference that everyone is up in arms about.
Quote, so supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just some very powerful light, and I think you said that it hasn't been checked, but you're going to test it.
And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that too.
Sounds interesting, right?
And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute.
One minute.
And is there a way we could do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning?
Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs.
So it would be interesting to check that.
So you're going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.
He wasn't saying that the sun was good.
He was spitballing weird ideas about UV technology that he doesn't understand, and implying that because disinfectants work to kill the virus on surfaces, that maybe you could inject them into you and do a good job inside the body.
The next day, when asked about it, Trump tried to pretend that he'd brought up these things sarcastically in order to fuck with reporters, quote, just to see what would happen.
And that, Jordan, is a relief.
That the President of the United States was using his press conference in the middle of a pandemic to suggest potentially lethal non-treatments for the virus just to troll reporters.
And then, of course, it came out that one of the leaders of the Genesis 2 church, who promote the use of bleach as a miracle cure for all sorts of ailments, had sent Trump a letter earlier that week.
From an article in The Guardian, quote, He added that it can, quote, rid the body of COVID-19.
A few days after Grenin dispatched his letter, Trump went on national television at his daily coronavirus briefing in the White House on Thursday and promoted the idea that disinfectant could be used as a treatment for the virus.
The group is also the subject of an investigation because of their medical claims about bleach, and the article goes on to say that, quote, Grenin said that 30 of his supporters also have written in the past few days to Trump at the White House urging him to take action to protect Genesis 2 and its bleach-peddling activities, which they claim can cure coronavirus.
I have no idea if these two seemingly connected things are related, but one guy who's pretty sure they are is Mark Grenin.
He was pretty pumped about Trump's press conference.
Alex seems to not want to bring up this part of Trump's comments and just wants to pretend that all he said was sunlight is good.
A guy with a doctorate put, because he didn't know who I was, talk about one-dimensional, that I made up $25 million, and I made up people talk about me.
It's how ridiculous all this is, that this nobody now is like this God and pronounces the conviction that because I'm pro-human and I'm confident and I believe in humanity, they've made that a mental illness, a competent man who's successful.
So I consulted the DSM-4 to see what's the actual diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder, just to get a sense of how a doctor might be evaluating Alex.
By the way, in their own narrow definition of a...
Narcissists don't care about people.
They don't give tips.
When they're under pressure.
But again, it's their little cult term.
It's their little thing.
And then we sit there and our whole lives are run by these guilds and we bow down to the lawyers and the doctors and the psychologists and all they are is grasping people on average, wanting power.
All right, we're going to go to your phone calls right now, and then I've got a piece of news that is so gigantic, or I'm sure I'll screw it up and mess it up.
Look, when I drive down the road in my neighborhood, it took me 40 minutes to get to work today because I just drove through the neighborhood and stopped at each family and said, I'm glad you're outside.
But earlier when I told you that Alex had said that his people are sending in intel about Bill Gates, this is the only example of something that could have been what he was talking about and stupid.
We're there talking about the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation's real name and how it's the human depopulation operation.
Here's that clip.
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In 1997, Dr. Sabin got a call from a friend in Seattle about a potential funding source for an organization that would focus on international population and reproductive health.
Melinda Gates, with just a little money to spend, but a lot of skepticism about the academic approach, agreed to meet with Lori Zavin and her colleagues at Johns Hopkins, and they came away impressed.
In 1998, Dr. Zavin became the founding director of the Bill and Melinda Gates Institute for Population Control.
So that speaker, she's giving an intro to another speaker, and the explanation here is that she misspoke.
The Gates Group is, it's not called the Institute for Population Control.
It's the Institute for Population and Reproductive Health.
This has become a bit of a stupid conspiracy online, all based on that little clip, apparently initially publicized by Adam Curry, who sucks.
The most obvious explanation is that the speaker misspoke, but apparently that's just what Sheeple would say.
The internet sleuths have been trying to find evidence that the name of the Gates group is originally called the Institute for Population Control, but literally all evidence except that clip says that it's the Institute for Population and Reproductive Health.
In order to make sense of this lack of evidence...
The new claim is that the Gates people have completely scrubbed the internet of any proof that their group was originally called the Institute for Population Control.
The complete lack of evidence that the claim they're making is true is only evidence of a complete cover-up of the evidence that would prove their claim to be true.
They just so happen to have the testing kits right in the same room with the virus.
And they just so happen to accidentally put it on The needles that went in your arms and give it to you.
And they also wiped their shoes with a mask and shipped them over and the governor of California, the governor of New York, ordered you to wear the used mask.
Because we're not in run-down Chinese cities where they have open servers and all the rest of it.
Where the government doesn't care about the people when the people have given up.
So there's the Ars Technica story.
This is in Bloomberg as well.
CDC's failed coronavirus tests were tainted with coronavirus, feds confirmed.
So I will say that it's true that there is a story in Ars Technica with the headline, quote, CDC's failed coronavirus tests were tainted with coronavirus, feds confirmed.
However, there's some important caveats to make here.
First is that this article is four days old by the time Alex is on air doing his air raid siren bullshit, so it's not exactly stop the presses level news.
The second and much more important point is that Alex absolutely has not read this article because what he's saying has literally nothing to do with the content of it.
Like, this is basically Moonraker book versus movie territory.
He's saying that the Chinese sent these tainted tests and there was an intentional attack.
However, this article has no relation to anything China did.
It's entirely about protocols not being followed within the CDC in their development of a coronavirus test.
This was our government being sloppy.
From the article.
Quote, There's no indication in this article that the contamination led to anyone being infected, just that the results that were gathered from the tests were inconclusive and unusable.
If you want to use this story and shine some light on the need for better practices and controls within the CDC, by all means, go ahead.
However, what Alex is doing is completely fabricating a story about China putting coronavirus on test needles and sending them here to infect people, which is essentially accusing a sovereign state of a crime that requires a declaration of war.
He's playing with fire, and he's all just making it up because he's either unwilling or unable to read anything past a headline.
You should have to at least have the word China in the article to make that bald a lie about it.
Even if in the article it's not from China.
Even then, at least China would be involved in the article instead of it being purely the CDC made some tests and they were contaminated as a self-contained story.
But I don't know if I've ever heard him talking about, like, I'm recording my last episode and then breaking down in this way where he's discussing his career in hindsight.