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April 24, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#424: April 21-22, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at a couple of wildly different days on the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex finally admits that he hates his own show, and pushes a weird conspiracy about doctors having secret orgies. Also, a long-lost character, presumed dead, makes a triumphant return.

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alex jones
25:45
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dan friesen
01:09:12
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jordan holmes
13:33
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anthony fauci
01:05
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge.
Fight.
Need.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Quick question.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot this day?
dan friesen
You go first.
jordan holmes
I will tell you right now, I am going obviously stir-crazy along with everybody else.
dan friesen
Yeah, a lot of people are.
jordan holmes
Part of the way I expressed that was...
dan friesen
Watching the film Stir Crazy.
jordan holmes
Actually...
dan friesen
Stir Fry.
jordan holmes
Cabin Fever.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
No, I purchased Chocolate Lucky Charms.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Which are absolutely horrific.
They're basically Cocoa Krispies with marshmallows, and it's horrific.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
However...
If you put them in some yogurt, black cherry yogurt specifically, incredible.
Absolutely incredible.
dan friesen
Delicious.
Complimentary flavor profiles.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's very strange, but it works out.
dan friesen
Well, here's what I would say.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
That's not a good sign.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That sort of a purchase is a little iffy.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
You won't be in a crisis unless you get that Captain Crunch cotton candy.
No, that can't be done.
There is a cotton candy.
Boxes of Captain Crunch that I've seen.
jordan holmes
Cannot be done.
dan friesen
And if you buy one of those, you got it.
jordan holmes
No, it's time to call it.
dan friesen
You need to get help.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's time to call it.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know.
I guess the bright spot is the yogurt pairing with it, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
It was a terrible purchase that turned out to be a positive one.
dan friesen
Here's my bright spot, Jordan.
unidentified
Yes, sir!
dan friesen
I believe.
jordan holmes
You believe.
dan friesen
The year of the seltzer.
Is more than just drinking seltzer.
I believe that the year of the seltzer is something that is aspirational for all of us.
I believe that as we embark on this adventure of drinking a bunch of seltzers, what we need to do is we need to look at it as a metaphor.
We need to look at it as a thing.
Where, hey, look, we all like soda.
Soda's delicious.
But you know what?
You can do better.
You can have a seltzer water.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can take away the calories.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
In a number of cases, you can take away the caffeine if you don't want caffeine.
jordan holmes
Don't need it.
dan friesen
There are many ways that we can break the chains that bind us into unhealthy habits.
Yeah.
And so the year of the seltzer marches on.
I have an update.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I have an update in the spirit of aspiration surrounding the year of the seltzer.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
It is this 2020.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I am making a commitment that I'm going to drink 500 different seltzers in this year.
jordan holmes
There aren't even 500 different seltzers.
dan friesen
There absolutely are.
jordan holmes
There are not 500 different seltzers.
dan friesen
I have not looked it up, but I guarantee there are.
jordan holmes
You're going to have to order some from Japan.
You bet I am.
dan friesen
You bet I am.
And I'm willing to do it.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
I recuse myself.
dan friesen
It is more than one a day, which is going to be tough.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm setting the parameters as 420 is the beginning of it.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So 420, 2021 will be the end of the year of the seltzer.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And so we had on our...
jordan holmes
We're going with the fiscal year as opposed to...
dan friesen
The pothead fiscal year.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So on our last episode, we discussed the AHA Black Cherry Coffee.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
That's number one.
That's the first seltzer of the year.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And I have two new ones to bring.
I decided that AHA had inspired confidence among me.
So I got their orange grapefruit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It was pretty good.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then I went to the store and I saw that La Croix had a new flavor, Limoncello, which I'll now be testing on air.
jordan holmes
All right, try it out.
dan friesen
It's pretty good.
It's not great.
Ooh, it's interesting.
It has like a lemon vanilla kind of vibe to it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
That's almost a lemon pudding.
Lemoncello is a cake, right?
dan friesen
No, I think it's alcohol.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
It's a booze.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's like an aperitif or something like that.
It's one of those like dessert boozes.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to drink 500 different seltzers, and I'm going to give them a score.
jordan holmes
Do you have a spreadsheet?
dan friesen
I have a notebook right here.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
dan friesen
And eventually this will end up having to be in a spreadsheet.
I was going to say, yeah.
If any of you listening out there want to make it, I will be giving updates on every episode of the new seltzers and their ratings.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Out of 100, I've decided.
Now, the scale will obviously become more refined as time goes on.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But I have given the AHA Black Cherry Coffee an 83 out of 100.
jordan holmes
Holy shit, we're there!
dan friesen
Well, that's a good rating.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
If it's under 50, that means it's bad.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Over 50 is good.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And I think that I probably elevated that one a little higher than it needs to be, but I think it was out of surprise.
jordan holmes
Opening seltzer, though.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's got that first bump, you know, where you're like, this is the one that also I embark on my journey with.
dan friesen
And it's really hard to uncouple from the, like, oh my god, this was so much better than I thought it was going to be.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So that's tough.
But 83, I'm going to stand by it.
Maybe, maybe by September, November, we'll be looking back on that.
I can't believe I gave that 83. Can't believe that was 83. We may regret it, but whatever.
Orange grapefruit, aha, giving a 72. 72. 72 out of 100.
Not as good.
But it also wasn't...
There wasn't any oomph to it.
There wasn't any surprise to it.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I accidentally...
I found myself leaving the can.
Like, I didn't drink at all.
And by the time I got to the bottom of it, it wasn't, like, ice cold.
And it really suffered.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It was very tough.
jordan holmes
In that case, I think 73 is high.
dan friesen
72. 72. I, too, think 73 is too high.
jordan holmes
Fair point.
dan friesen
LaCroix Limoncello, we will have a rating by the end of this episode.
I'm unclear on it.
Not yet.
jordan holmes
Gotta finish it before it can be done.
dan friesen
You're the seltzer!
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
This is stir-crazy.
dan friesen
This is very exciting to me.
I am very pumped.
So, Jordan, we've got an episode to go over today.
It'll be very interesting.
There's a rapid cycling of Alex's emotional state as we discuss April 21st and 22nd, 2020.
This is 2020.
But before we get down to business, I'd like to take a little moment to say thank you to the folks who have signed up and are supporting the show and making the Year of the Seltzer possible.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So first, Frank.
Thank you, Frank!
I need you, Frank!
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Frank.
dan friesen
Next, Laura.
Thank you, Laura.
Next, Travis.
You're now a policy wonk.
Thank you so much.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Laura.
Next, Travis.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Travis.
dan friesen
Next, Russell.
Thank you, Russell.
Next, Christine with a K. Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Christine.
dan friesen
Thank you, Christine.
Next, David.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, David.
dan friesen
And Ultimate Salt Dragon.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Ultimate Salt Dragon.
dan friesen
Not one of these, like, iffy salt dragons.
The Ultimate.
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So, Edward, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
Tinker's Damn, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Aaron, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Edward.
Thank you so much, Tinker's Dam.
And thank you so much, Aaron.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to all three of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support these gents too, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or you could find a local charity in your area and help provide support for folks in need in your community.
jordan holmes
Yes, we would be very grateful if you did either.
dan friesen
Indeed.
Jordan?
jordan holmes
Yes, sir?
dan friesen
We can't start the episode yet.
There's more business.
jordan holmes
There's the year of the seltzer?
dan friesen
No.
The year of the seltzer update has been made.
Okay.
But there's a little more business need to take care of.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
First thing is that we're recording this on Thursday, and this is the day that Alex's bankruptcy hearing was supposed to happen.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And we don't know exactly what's going to happen, because by the time we've started this episode, if we consult the docket, this morning Alex's ex-wife filed an emergency motion.
She's trying to get Alex's lawyer disqualified.
Sure.
On the basis that she says and asserts...
That the two of them have an existing relationship from back when she and Alex were married.
And it should preclude him from representing him in this case.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
Bring Barnes back.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
So there's that motion that she's filed, and failing that, she would like a motion to continue the hearing, which would be to postpone it.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So there's a very decent chance that by the time we're done recording or by the time this episode comes out, the hearing may be postponed.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Or it's also possible that that motion will be rejected and the hearing will happen.
It's unclear, and I apologize if anybody feels like we misled anyone.
We did not.
We were going on the information that was available, and this morning, Thursday morning, this emergency motion was filed.
So we have no idea.
There may not be a satisfying payoff this week, but we will end up finding out.
jordan holmes
Goddamn Jones family.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's a little bit of a bummer, but the other bit of business is a little bit more of a nice thing.
It is my birthday.
Absolutely.
Happy birthday to you.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
And I'd like to just take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have sent nice things and presents.
So, Sonya from Sweden, Raptor Princess extraordinaire, not from Switzerland.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I need to apologize for that publicly.
That slip up.
I'd like to thank her and Black Dragon Queen Christy for sending very nice little gifts.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Also, Kelly.
Need to say thank you.
Heard me talking about how I don't have a Netflix password and gifted me a Netflix account.
jordan holmes
Well, that's wonderful.
dan friesen
Thank you very much to Kelly.
jordan holmes
Now you can catch up on Tiger King.
dan friesen
I unfortunately have not been able to open it yet because I haven't had time, but I intend to soon once I have a little bit more free time.
Also you, Jordan!
You gave me a copy of Final Fantasy VII and demanded that I play it.
So thank you very much for that.
jordan holmes
And it was not your bright spot.
dan friesen
Well, I haven't really had a whole lot of time to get into it yet.
I did play a tiny bit last night before I went to bed.
It's not my style of game, but I definitely enjoyed the opening of it.
So I think I'll probably enjoy it, but it'll take a little adjustment.
But we'll see.
And then finally, my friend Adrian got me a very nice spruce beer.
It's a brand called Le Petit.
From what I understand, it is a favorite of the Quebecois in Canada.
And so we have here a little bit of a spruce beer.
I have no idea what that means.
I have no idea what to expect.
But, salute!
unidentified
Cheers to you!
jordan holmes
That's pretty good.
dan friesen
That has a gingerish vibe to it.
jordan holmes
It does.
It does.
I feel pine needles.
Have you ever eaten a pine needle?
I feel a pine needle.
dan friesen
I'm not sure I've ever eaten a pine needle, but I feel like I have.
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
I feel like I just did.
dan friesen
This almost feels like it should qualify as part of the year of the seltzer.
jordan holmes
It kind of does.
dan friesen
It's quite fizzy.
jordan holmes
It is very fizzy.
dan friesen
It's not very beer-like.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Not at all.
When I was pouring it, I noticed that it had almost like a champagne-y vibe.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And there is that sort of cleanness.
jordan holmes
And it's very clear.
It doesn't...
Yeah, it's very much seltzer-ish.
dan friesen
Adjacent.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Anyway, good.
Nice.
So thank you, Adrian.
That's very delish.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's quite refreshing.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
So now, let's get down to business on our episode, all that business taken care of, and many thank yous and good tidings to all.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Here is an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
They're coming for your balls.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So Alex seems to be focusing quite a bit on the idea that the coronavirus is specifically designed to attack men's balls.
jordan holmes
I'm fair.
I'm happy with that.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
So we start here on the 21st, and Alex is still mad at Joy Behar and The View because they have said that people who are going out to these protests against quarantines and stay-at-home measures are terrorists, and Alex is not happy about this.
alex jones
Here's Joy Behar.
unidentified
These people are being egged on by right-wing media and people like Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh, and why are you bringing guns to a rally?
You want to call yourself protesters, leave your guns home.
Those are terrorists who bring guns to things, to rallies.
I don't trust that at all.
And don't listen to these people.
Yeah, sorry.
Go ahead.
alex jones
What did Thomas Jefferson say?
And it was paraphrased in Viva Vendetta.
When the government fears the people, there is liberty.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
dan friesen
First of all, I don't 100% agree with Joy Behar.
I don't think that it's necessarily an appropriate thing to say, like, oh, you're bringing a gun to a protest, that's a terrorist thing to do.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because you can easily see how that could be applied in all sorts of directions you don't want it to be applied in.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
And just having a gun or just carrying a gun isn't necessarily some sort of a terrorist act.
Now, bigger picture.
This should surprise no one, but that is not a Thomas Jefferson quote.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
It's commonly misattributed to Jefferson, as well as to Thomas Paine, but Monticello, the world's foremost authority on the words and writings of Thomas Jefferson, have found no evidence that Jefferson ever said that.
In researching the source of this quotation, the Thomas Jefferson Encyclopedia reports that the first known appearance of this in print was in 1914, in an indictment of socialism delivered by John Basil Barnhill, a prominent anti-socialist debater of the time.
Interestingly, it's currently Barnhill's birthday, so happy birthday to him as well as me.
jordan holmes
Hey, how about that?
dan friesen
This quote comes from a debate Barnhill had with socialist writer Henry Tichenor.
And in the context of the debate, it's very clear that Barnhill is not quoting or citing an existing expression.
Those are his own words.
jordan holmes
Good work, Barnhill.
dan friesen
It wasn't until 1994 that this quote was first repackaged and presented as the words of Thomas Jefferson in a book called It's All in the Game, Butterflies Mind Control, The Razor's Edge.
jordan holmes
Is that William Somerset Maugham?
No.
dan friesen
It was written by a guy named Giorgio Cirrus Hatton, which is a name that most people would not recognize, but because I did a thorough breakdown of Alex's film Endgame, that name rings a bell for me.
Giorgio Cirrus Hatton is the guy who was one of the big sources for Daniel Estelin's book, The True Story of the Bilderberg Group, which Alex uses as a cornerstone of his theories about that group.
Hatton, of course, is not a reliable source.
Here's how Hatton describes himself.
Quote, I'm Giorgio Ceres Hatton, Commander-in-Chief, Earth Project Transition, Pleiades Sector Flight Command, Intergalactic Federation Fleet, Ashtar Command, Earth Representative to the Cosmic Council and the Intergalactic Federation Council on Earth Transition.
jordan holmes
Hold on one second.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is that the Dutchman?
dan friesen
It could be.
Hatton is a nutty space weirdo who also, at certain points, I'm not sure what he's up to now, but he used to at least sell colloidal silver.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And in a book he wrote in 1994, he took this old quote from an anti-socialist debate and reintroduced it as a quote from Thomas Jefferson.
It's not a Jefferson quote, but since that point, people have regularly misattributed it to him.
Again, this is Alex Jones having no actual connection to history or the founding fathers of this country he professes to love so much.
He doesn't love this country or actual history.
He loves completely nonsensical conspiracy theory, revisionist history, and what he generously calls patriot lore.
In other words, he's living a fantasy land.
jordan holmes
He loves his founding fathers who bear no resemblance to the actual ones.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's so obvious when you look at the quotations that he uses.
So Alex here in this next clip, I think he realizes that on his previous day's episode, on the 20th, David Icke was on and he said there was no virus and Alex was like, bingo, you got it.
I think he realized that by this point that that was like, uh-oh, wait, that's a problem for me.
alex jones
Now there's a big paradox here between people like David Knight, Mike Adams, David Icke, and others who argue with each other and get mad at each other over different angles of this when it's completely normal with a government and a media that's been caught lying to us so much over and over again to question everything, and that's healthy, and you should do it.
I don't agree with David Icke that Virus science isn't basically real.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't need to say that, but okay.
alex jones
95% of what he's saying, I can prove and know is right, and he has a lot of courage, and so I love having him on.
We don't have one view like CNN or MSNBC and then parrot it.
dan friesen
No, you affirm all views and then pretend that you didn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's fine to have David Icke on and saying that, like, hey, there is no virus, but your response needs to be, what are you talking about?
Like, you can't just be like, oh my god, bingo, you nailed it.
They have to have a fake virus so they know how it goes.
And then later be like, hey, we just hear all sides on this show, man.
jordan holmes
No big deal.
The problem was not David Icke's views.
It was Alex's response to David Icke's views.
dan friesen
It's not that you allow him to say these things.
It's that you double down on them and then pretend that you didn't.
jordan holmes
No, totally right.
Just like how Fox News is trying to be like, what are you talking about?
We didn't say nothing about hydrochloroquine.
You guys are crazy.
dan friesen
Alex is on his smooth transition towards that same walking back.
He's just now sort of being like, let's not bring it up.
jordan holmes
It's so disgusting that none of them will be held accountable for it.
It's just disgusting.
dan friesen
And in another retcon of things that Alex has definitely done, he's now really firmly of the position that those videos that were coming out of China that he was reporting on as being totally real are now obviously fake acting.
alex jones
Of course.
China executes you if you put a video out they don't like.
They shot all these videos that were the worst acting I've seen since watching third graders do Peter Pan.
You ever been to a third grade school thing of Peter Pan?
There are better actors than this.
Almost all of it was staged.
You'll have two or three people fall down together on the street at the same time.
The welding's shut.
It was fake.
It was garbage.
Almost all of it was not real.
dan friesen
So those are all things that he has reported as very real in the past.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Also, I think the only reason I kept that in is because the only time Alex would ever be at a third grade play is like his kids.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's using that as an example of bad acting.
Can't feel good.
jordan holmes
Oh, you don't like dad whenever he says your play sucks.
Nobody likes dad anymore because he told you your play is shit.
unidentified
Just trying to be supportive, telling you you suck at acting.
jordan holmes
Nobody cares about, oh yeah, let dads talk, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's not great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex says this other thing that he does from time to time, like, he'll often talk about how his website's being, like, it's under hack attack and stuff like that, just trying to, like, really escalate the tension.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He does that on this April 21st episode, but it's like, this absolutely did not happen.
alex jones
There's about a minute left on this report.
It's at Man.Video.
Our video streams are down.
They told us that at the data center, the cable was cut, the fiber optic, so who knows what's happening there?
A lot of stuff going on.
We've still got the audio streams going.
The satellite feeds to TV and radio stations.
So stay with us and spread those links.
dan friesen
There is no follow-up on this.
The fiber optic cords have been cut.
jordan holmes
Somebody snuck in.
dan friesen
Someone at the data center has informed us that the fiber optic cords have been cut.
jordan holmes
Actually, our website is under ShaqAttack, and Shaq actually cut our fiber optic cables.
dan friesen
Look, I contacted the data center, and they said that Ethan Hunt just came in through the roof.
And downloaded a virus into the system that only attacks GCN feeds of Alex Jones' show.
jordan holmes
Ving Rhames was involved.
dan friesen
There was an Italian job situation at the shortwave station.
This reminds me a lot of...
jordan holmes
Back when Emilio Estevez was still an actor.
dan friesen
This reminds me a lot of Bill Cooper, too, honestly.
There's another thing that I'm going to cover eventually in the future, but there is a number of times throughout Bill's career that he has insisted that he's specifically under attack.
And so that's something that also...
There's a rich tradition among conspiracy theory type broadcasters to create...
Sort of dramatic arcs around there.
Because you have to.
You have to create the presentation that what you're doing is somehow dangerous.
And the only way to do that is to manufacture a danger.
A fiber optic thing is being cut.
jordan holmes
Carrie is under attack by aliens all the time.
dan friesen
All the time.
Whenever there's any tech glitches, it's because aliens are interfering.
It's very consistent.
Meanwhile, if we have tech glitches, it's because my stuff's not that good.
My soundboard is a little old.
We're talking into cheap mics.
jordan holmes
Still haven't gotten that compressed air yet.
dan friesen
I did.
I just need to do it again.
So Alex is pretty mad that the media...
The media, the evil media.
jordan holmes
Oh, those bad guys.
dan friesen
They've said that he has the cure to the virus or something, or they've said that he's said that he has the cure.
So, Alex in this next clip is complaining about how his friends and family believe that the media says that he said it, so they're asking him for the cure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is convoluted, but...
The thing that's important is, like, you have to recognize so many of these complaints that Alex has traced back to him having conversations with stupid people he chooses to associate with.
So, it's like, you can't generalize this to the population.
These are your people.
alex jones
I'm sure you saw the news.
Jones claims he has a cure to COVID-19 and a treatment.
Never said that.
Never say anything close to that.
jordan holmes
Steve Pachanek did.
alex jones
But they still run that headline.
Everywhere.
Until I've got cousins and people calling going, Alex, do you really have a cure?
You're a moral guy.
Do you have it?
I want it.
And I'm like, no, I don't have it.
Well, the news says you do.
See, people that know me but don't really listen a lot, they know I'm a good guy, so they're calling me.
Old friends, old college buddies, old girlfriends.
Oh my God, my mom, you know, she's old.
Do you have the cure?
And I'm like, no, but the news says you have it.
See, they trust the media so little that they think I've really got a cure when the media says I do because they trust me, not them.
But see, that's the level of deception.
dan friesen
Doesn't it mean that they trust the media more if they believe the people saying that Alex says that he has a cure?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
If they distrusted the media, then they would think that Alex isn't saying that he has a cure.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on here.
unidentified
Don't worry about it.
dan friesen
It's not really important.
jordan holmes
Steve Buchanan cured COVID-19.
That's all you need to know.
dan friesen
But he didn't say that he has the cure.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He just said that he did cure himself.
jordan holmes
That's true.
He was the first person to cure it as well as have it, I think?
dan friesen
Yeah, he was patient zero.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
No, patient one or whatever because he got it from meeting with a Chinese national student of some sort, I believe, is what he said.
I don't care.
It's all nonsense.
jordan holmes
Me neither.
dan friesen
But the point here is that so many of these things that seem to make Alex mad are just dumb people and his family members talking to him.
Or imagined conversations, because this may not even happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is made up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, in this next clip, Alex talks about his custody situation a little bit.
And we don't talk about that a bunch, because interpersonal things are impossible to decipher from the information that we have at our disposal.
But the reason that I'm playing this clip is because Alex says that there's that and then there's bigger things that he can't discuss.
And I would suspect that we have a pretty fine idea of what that might be.
alex jones
Please pray for us because there's stuff a lot bigger than this I can't tell you about.
And they've said it's your final warning.
Leave Bill Gates alone.
Leave this alone.
Back down.
unidentified
Or the SWAT team's coming.
alex jones
And it's not a pissing contest.
It's not that I'm Mr. Badass or anything.
I said, do your worst.
Piss up a rope.
Fill your hand.
I will never abandon ship.
Ever!
unidentified
You said you were moving yesterday.
alex jones
So let me just explain to listeners.
dan friesen
We're at DEFCON 5. So when he says, like, I've gotten my final warning, it's like...
It's either nothing or he knows a shoe is coming.
A shoe is flying directly at his face.
jordan holmes
He also made, yet again, a classic mistake of not understanding that DEFCON means the higher the number means the safer.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've not looked into DEFCON ratings.
jordan holmes
DEFCON 1. Scary!
Everybody's gonna die!
DEFCON 5?
We're pretty fine.
dan friesen
You know what?
That's...
Unfortunate for him, but I probably would make the same mistake.
It's a very common mistake.
jordan holmes
And it's also their fault for doing it wrong.
You did it backwards.
You guys are stupid.
dan friesen
So whatever the reality is or whatever's behind this, there is a real sense that Alex is just like, fucking done.
There's a finality to this.
I've gotten my last warning.
Leave Bill Gates alone.
No one fucking said that to you.
Bill Gates doesn't care if you talk about it.
I would assume...
He's used to it at this point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it just goes on throughout this episode.
It's real serious, just the way he feels like I've come to the end.
alex jones
And I don't say that to go, oh, we're victims.
Oh, poor us.
No, man, I'm just telling you, we're in damn foxholes.
It's like the Alamo.
We're sending letters out on the back of wallpaper saying, help, we're about to be overrun by a group ten times our size.
jordan holmes
We need to conquer Mexico.
alex jones
Get this out.
I'm just letting you know, man, final dispatches.
These should be final dispatches.
Now, hopefully we go on another six months, a year, two years.
Hopefully sanity comes back in.
We turn this around somehow.
But I want to explain something to you.
We're not in a normal period anymore.
dan friesen
Alex has always seen himself as Colonel Travis.
He's always seen himself as this archetype of the guy going down in the Alamo.
And here he is on air saying, these are the final dispatches.
These could be the final dispatches.
We're in the Alamo.
We're sending out reinforcements.
And guess what?
In the Alamo, those reinforcements did not come.
jordan holmes
And just like Colonel Travis, Alex is a drunk moron.
dan friesen
Yes, and he brought this upon himself.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
He is more accurate about being Colonel Travis than he knows.
dan friesen
So Alex gets off this sort of real doomed feeling that he has to talk about Owen Schroer had this rally over last weekend.
And it turns out they're doing another one this weekend.
jordan holmes
I hope they get infected!
dan friesen
At the last one.
You didn't know this.
jordan holmes
I didn't know this.
dan friesen
You don't know anything about this.
But it turns out Antifa was there.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sure!
Sure!
dan friesen
Antifa tried to agent provocateur Owen's protest.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And here is what happened.
alex jones
You know what happened when Owen Schroeder showed up at about 12 noon on Saturday at the state capitol?
And normally you'd have a permit to be up in front of the capitol so you did it down on the street.
They had a couple provocateur Antifa dressed up in American flag outfits.
We know who they are.
Tried to start a fight with cops.
The state police saw right through it.
Didn't even arrest them.
Just shoved them to the side and said, Owen, we can't control this down here.
We appreciate what you're doing.
So does the governor.
This is off record, but on record.
They just want to say their names.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Please come up in front of the Capitol and we'll protect you from it.
jordan holmes
Shut the fuck up.
alex jones
We'll protect...
Okay, so...
That's the Fight Club stuff that's going on here in America.
dan friesen
So yeah, Alex knows who these Antifa dressed up in American flag outfits, Agent Provocateur and Owens protesting.
jordan holmes
I do believe the governor supports him because they're all insane too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Abbott and Dan Patrick are just absolutely insane.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, it is...
dan friesen
They're really begging the state to go blue.
jordan holmes
There is no moral way that these guys, if they believe in Christianity, they are damning themselves to hell more than anyone ever has.
It's insane.
dan friesen
Yeah, that state government had some problems.
jordan holmes
They're great.
dan friesen
They should have elected fucking Kinky Friedman.
I don't know what he was running for, but they should have put him in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just toss him in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, get Kinky in for...
jordan holmes
There is nobody who could do a worse job than what they are doing right now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's bad.
dan friesen
So you got this protest that's coming up on Saturday, and Alex is really trying to push that you gotta go or you're with the enemy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
We don't need Americans to think of it as extraordinary.
To go out and demonstrate in the face of this tyranny, in the face of this fear.
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
We need everyone to realize if you don't go out and demonstrate, if you don't go out and get over your fear, then you're dead already and you're part of the enemy operation.
It's either you demonstrate and you say no or you're with the enemy.
It's not, oh, Alex Jones and Owen Schroyer are so great.
Boy, they went out there and didn't wear masks.
Don't they have courage?
jordan holmes
Courage is one word you could use.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
Sure.
Death wish is another word.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's not what you like to hear.
It's a bad mentality.
Hey, if you don't go out and protest in large groups without masks on and all that, you're with the enemy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You are with the virus.
dan friesen
So speaking of the enemy, Dr. Fauci.
unidentified
Enemy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Enemy.
Alex has dug up some footage of him from a couple years back and Alex has decided that this is proof that he planned this whole thing and that he was trying to fuck with Trump.
alex jones
And Fauci's saying, don't ever shake hands with anyone again.
Since when did this space alien from hell land here that ran the HIV cover-up and the anthrax cover-up and all these crimes?
He's up to his eyeballs in the Wuhan lab.
dan friesen
Real quick, Alex, what is the HIV cover-up, according to you?
You are an HIV denialist.
So what is the HIV cover-up exactly?
Please explain that.
Second...
Whenever Alex says, he's very consistently saying he's up to his eyeballs and stuff.
And that is a very specific turn of phrase that Francis Boyle uses all the time.
He says people are up to their eyeballs in the biohazard labs, the bioweapons labs, the Nazi bioscience.
jordan holmes
I like it as an idiom, though.
I've used it from time to time.
I think it's a great one.
dan friesen
I understand that.
But Alex is using it very consistently to talk about Dr. Fauci, which is Francis Boyle's epithet.
Very traceable.
unidentified
Gotcha.
alex jones
And Bill and Melinda Gates, $100 million from them last year, and now he's here saying, don't shake hands with anyone ever again?
Yeah, let's cue this up and play it.
Him in 2017 saying Trump will be faced with a major crisis very, very soon.
Here it is.
anthony fauci
Is that there is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena.
Of infectious diseases, both chronic infectious diseases in the sense of already ongoing disease, and we have certainly a large burden of that, but also there will be a surprise outbreak.
alex jones
And he goes on to say Trump won't be ready for that.
These criminals love to brag.
dan friesen
So Alex cut that clip off very strategically.
jordan holmes
It did seem very abrupt the way he cut that off.
dan friesen
Yeah, almost mid-word.
jordan holmes
Almost like he took it out of context.
dan friesen
Yeah, here's the actual clip without that hard out in it.
anthony fauci
And if there's one message that I want to leave with you today based on my experience, and you'll see that in a moment, is that there is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena.
of infectious diseases, both chronic infectious diseases in the sense of already ongoing disease, and we have certainly a large burden of that, but also there will be a surprise outbreak, and I hope by the end of my relatively short presentation you will understand why history,
the history of the last 32 years that I've been the director of NIAID, will tell the next administration that there's no doubt in anyone's mind That they will be faced with the challenges that their predecessors were faced with.
dan friesen
This is from a speech that Anthony Fauci gave at Georgetown University Medical Center just before Trump's inauguration.
It's very clear if you listen to his comments in context that Fauci is discussing the very normal phenomenon of surprise outbreaks.
The fact that Trump will experience a surprise outbreak is not an outlier.
It's exactly the same thing that previous presidents, like Obama, have experienced.
It's a fact of life that there will be emerging diseases.
There's always outbreaks.
The question is entirely about what these emerging diseases are and what the response to those outbreaks will be.
By ending the clip where Alex does, he makes the comment appear to be Fauci teasing that Trump, unlike past presidents, has a disease outbreak on the horizon, which now that there is a pandemic going on, could be misrepresented and misinterpreted into him making some kind of a threat.
In its proper context, Alex's narrative is shown to be a complete mischaracterization of Fauci's words and an example of an absolute fabrication, either knowing or someone's feeding Alex's He doesn't vet anything that he says.
He just, bleh.
jordan holmes
Man, I hate it how the media just takes Alex out of context all the time.
They just take him out of context.
dan friesen
So rude.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and you're taking him out of context right here by playing this clip that he took out of context.
See, you need to provide the full context of Alex saying the clip is completely opposite to what it is that I just said.
dan friesen
If you understand that the proper context of Alex's show is lying is cool, then I am taking him out of context.
That is a fair accusation.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex talks about the globalists' plans, right?
So Trump wants to open up the economy, right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And once he does that, the globalists are going to respond.
alex jones
And of course I predicted there'd be a bunch of more deadly mutations because they're releasing them.
You see, as soon as Trump tries to reopen, they're going to release more deadly strains.
I've already foreseen their whole operation.
dan friesen
Probably a prophetic dream he's talking about.
So this is one of those really fun things that Alex does where he presents a situation that no matter what happens, he can spin to his advantage.
He's saying that once Trump tries to reopen the economy, the evil globalists are going to release more strains of the virus.
So let's look at the possible outcomes in the real world and how this narrative is unspeakable.
Yep.
If Trump opens things up prematurely, there's a decent chance that the outcome is that infection numbers will go up.
That's a natural result that you'd expect to see, and it's pretty much the big argument against rushing to open things back up.
jordan holmes
You would think it's a very obvious argument, but apparently we're all stupid.
dan friesen
By pretending that the globalists will respond to Trump's action by releasing more dangerous strains of the virus, Alex can rewrite the increased infections as a globalist attack, instead of what it really is, the consequence of Trump's shitty leadership.
But what if Trump reopens things and there isn't a big increase in infections?
That seems unlikely, but it's certainly possible.
That would be a problem for Alex, it seems, since he said that the globalists are going to release more bioweapons to punish Trump for reopening the economy.
But it's not a problem for Alex, because if that situation comes to pass, then he can say the globalists couldn't follow through with their plans because he called it out on air and foiled their scheme.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
A lot of Alex's narratives work like this.
He tends to populate his world with things that can be spun, no matter what happens in the real world, because he's just making this stuff up to begin with.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's fun.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Nobody is held accountable on the right.
It's simply not a thing.
It's just not a thing.
Like, they just don't do it.
It's fascinating how a large group of people will just believe anything, and then whenever it's done...
They just switch it and they're like, see?
I never believed that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Bullshit.
Yeah.
No.
Insane.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
At the beginning of this episode, I thanked some people for some nice birthday gifts.
But I got an amazing birthday gift in the middle of this episode.
And that is that someone we all thought was dead.
Is shown to be alive.
jordan holmes
Down to Grand Prix?
dan friesen
No, he's still dead.
alex jones
Damn it.
unidentified
Hold on, I said I'd open the phones up, and as usual, I haven't gone to your phone calls.
alex jones
We're going to them right now.
Let's go ahead and talk to John in Wyoming, and then we'll go to Emmanuel in Norway.
Thanks for holding John here on the air.
dan friesen
Thank you very much, Alex.
unidentified
Let me tell you something that happened here in Sheridan, Wyoming.
alex jones
Old Man House Phone!
unidentified
Old Man House Phone returns from the dead!
He lives!
alex jones
John from Wyoming, Old Man House Phone.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
What a treat.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
dan friesen
What a gift.
jordan holmes
Give him a show.
Give him a show.
If he's still going after all of that, he's got to have a show.
dan friesen
Alex offered him a show way back when he said he can't because he just has a house phone.
That's how we know he's Old Man House Phone.
jordan holmes
Give him a show.
Give him a show.
dan friesen
John from Wyoming, Old Man House Phone.
When I heard that, I almost freaked out.
He has some nonsense about passing some bill.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have anything important to say.
We just need to know he's still alive.
dan friesen
Hearing that voice was a real like, yes, I'm full again.
I'm complete.
jordan holmes
We need to have one of those websites.
dan friesen
I'm sure he passed.
I was almost certain.
jordan holmes
We need to have one of those, like, is Abe Vigoda dead websites where it's just old man house phone.
dan friesen
We'll never know.
Yes, but I can confirm that as of April 21st, he is kicking.
jordan holmes
Not dead.
dan friesen
And the other thing, too, is he's much older than that voice suggests.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I don't remember his exact age, but he did say it on air at one point.
It's something in the, like, 80s or something.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
He's an old, old man.
jordan holmes
Sounds good.
dan friesen
Still kicking.
jordan holmes
Sounds great.
dan friesen
Anyway, in this next clip, Alex takes another caller.
This is where everything falls apart on the 21st.
This is profound.
Alex is just like, fuck you, man.
I'm fucking done.
Fuck this shit.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
I hate my own show.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
This fucking stuff is stupid.
jordan holmes
Love it.
unidentified
I've had about a million things cross my brain that I wanted to bring up, but I'm going to try and condense it down into three things, maybe four, and I'll try to be quick.
The first one I just wanted to bring up, and I don't think it's too late for you to do this, but I called in maybe three years ago, but I had made the suggestion, and I know I'm not trying to put everything on you, but you have to...
alex jones
Oh, I'm probably going to shut InfoWars down soon.
I don't like this show anymore.
I don't like what we do here.
I can't do the show anymore.
And it's not due to the pressure.
I just can't stand it anymore.
I can't look at it.
I can't.
I used to like the show.
I hate the show.
is pure torture now.
And it's not the Democrats suing me.
It's not the globalists.
It's not all of it.
It's just all.
I just, America and the world's gonna burn.
It needs to burn.
We killed too many babies.
We're done.
We're gonna lose.
unidentified
Wow.
That's, uh, That's pretty open and shut.
dan friesen
I fucking hate this show.
It's fucking stupid.
We all need to burn.
Fuck this shit.
jordan holmes
I think that's pretty comprehensive, too.
I think this is the first time Alex and I really, really agree with each other.
dan friesen
Except for the America Needs to Burn part.
jordan holmes
Yeah, except for that part.
dan friesen
His assessment of his own show, yes.
Dead accurate.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Sucks.
Must be torture to do it.
jordan holmes
It's absolute torture.
Agreed.
dan friesen
I think that that is a new wrinkle a little bit.
Even in the times that I've heard him be pretty dark and like, ugh.
It's never like, I hate this show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That one's new.
jordan holmes
That one's direct.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it's in response to a caller who likes him, who has a suggestion.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which seems...
jordan holmes
A suggestion that he has not yet made.
dan friesen
No.
It seems uncalled for.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just fuck this.
I'm going to shut this down.
I don't even want to do this.
unidentified
Love it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex continues on and he elaborates on this need for America and the world to burn.
unidentified
Well, you know...
alex jones
So tell me what I need to do now.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Well, no, no, no.
alex jones
Because God just needs to blow the planet up.
See, I realize now that that's why I feel...
We need to pay for what we've done, actually.
Everybody's in zombie mode.
jordan holmes
You do.
alex jones
We aren't even alive anymore.
The listeners are alive.
I feel sorry for you, but...
You know, the rest of the public's not, dude.
We're on a planet of dumb idiots.
We're on a planet of slugs now.
dan friesen
Great.
So now Alex has become death.
He's like, fuck it.
Torch the world.
Destroy everybody.
I mean, like, obviously, in the same way that Alex was always this crusader against tyranny and now he's supporting all these tyrannical moves.
Like, of course, it's so obvious that he is like, Back in the day, pretending that he cares about humanity and everybody's so great.
The human spirit that refuses to submit is so wonderful.
Humanity is a blessing.
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Fuck it.
Burn him down.
dan friesen
My personal arc hasn't gone the way I want it to.
So everyone must die.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Great.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's an adult.
dan friesen
Yes.
So this caller, he brings up his suggestion, and that is that he thinks that Alex should make some specific shirts.
And I'll agree with Alex that this isn't a good suggestion, but the way Alex responds is so fucking funny.
unidentified
Well, okay, so I brought up the idea, and you thought it was a good idea, but I called in a couple years ago, and I said, hey, man, you should do some bumper stickers or shirts that say, and I got a couple other points I want to make really quick, too, but you should maybe do some bumper stickers that say the coming economic collapse is an inside job.
alex jones
No one will buy them, no one cares.
dan friesen
Maybe, maybe, but no one cares.
jordan holmes
Now this is what I've been looking for from Alex's callers.
This is Bill Cooper.
This is where I'm at with this.
dan friesen
Well, it's not in the right way because this caller is like...
Giving productive feedback in some way.
Hey, Alex, if you made this product of the coming economic collapse, then you can use it when the market does go down.
It is a caller with a good faith.
Within the world of InfoWars, that's a pretty good suggestion.
Alex is lashing out at him.
Whereas the times, I'm sure Bill Cooper did do this because he is also an asshole, but the times that we've heard him responding to callers in sort of snippy ways, it's mostly because they bring up stupid ideas.
So that is still different.
jordan holmes
I mean, that is still a stupid idea, though.
dan friesen
In the real world, in InfoWars, it's a good idea.
jordan holmes
I'm always struggling with that.
dan friesen
And Alex's response was like, no one will buy it.
No one cares.
Fuck you.
It's just so childish.
It's the wrong fucking tantrum.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he is.
dan friesen
And it spirals to the point where he seems to be almost celebrating the idea that civilization is going to end.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
We are filth.
We are cowards.
We are trash.
And so all the yuppies wearing their mask and all the trendies getting into it, they're going to have everything they have taken and they're going to starve to death and it's good.
It's a blessing.
See, I'm beginning to realize that it's all a blessing.
All this crap's about to end.
All this fake stuff, all the laziness, all the stupidness, all the TV shows, all the Netflix, it's all about to go.
dan friesen
All the conspiracy theory internet programs.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, is he talking about him?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Like, yeah, man, you know what?
Hey, everyone's gonna die, and society's gonna collapse entirely, but it's great, because Netflix will be gone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's about time we got rid of Netflix.
dan friesen
Just don't have a fucking account, Alex!
It won't affect you at all!
unidentified
What are you...
dan friesen
Ugh, it's just so sad.
So anyway, Alex is real fucking out of it in that segment.
That was a bad segment, I'd be honest.
In terms of his show...
Pretty bad.
unidentified
Not great.
jordan holmes
A little apocalyptic.
dan friesen
Fuck this show.
jordan holmes
A little apocalyptic.
unidentified
Stupid.
dan friesen
Hey, why don't you make these shirts?
No one cares.
So Alex goes to break there.
You hear the outro music.
He comes back, and of course, he has to apologize.
alex jones
Alright, I'm getting a little dark today.
That's why I gotta take off a few days, folks.
I've got plans and operations that would defeat the globalists overnight.
People don't want it.
jordan holmes
Fuck off.
alex jones
They don't need it.
They don't get it.
And so, we will join the children.
We deserve it.
There's a way out, but I can tell you we're not going to follow it.
No, America and the world will burn.
jordan holmes
That wasn't very apologetic.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it was kind of.
He's like, I'm getting a little bit dark here.
It feels like the intro to an apology.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And then he still wound up saying that the world were burned.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
Sure.
But like I said, it's the introduction to that last segment was pretty fucked up.
jordan holmes
A little dark.
dan friesen
Someone gave me a talking to.
I need to take a few days off.
But then we get to the actual sort of apology.
Sort of taking some of this back.
alex jones
Look, I didn't mean the things I said last segment.
And America and the world doesn't deserve to burn, but if we don't stand up and say out of this, that's what we're going to get.
dan friesen
Sorry, man.
Look, I know I said that everyone's going to burn.
I didn't mean it.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
That is great.
His childish, like, I want everybody to die!
Fuck everybody!
I'm sick of this shit!
Hey, listen, I'm really sorry about that.
I really apologize.
dan friesen
My dad came in and told me that no one's going to give you money if you act like this.
And he's right, and so I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
I need money.
dan friesen
America doesn't need to burn.
But that's my assessment.
That's how it looks to me.
But I should say that there is a counter-argument that Alex is going to deliver in this next clip, which is that he's not doing this for money.
alex jones
I don't sit up here and do this show so I get money to keep paying this crew and keep running this place.
I do it because I have a responsibility, no matter how bad things get, to try to stay on the air to expose this so that we're here on air while these critical things are happening.
And I get mad thinking, if I don't do a good job and get the money to stay on air, when stuff gets even worse and worse and worse, we won't be here to challenge it.
And then I see the fact that there's not enough money to continue on at the level we're at.
And I just think about the fact that if people really realized how serious this was, they would do their job, and I know a lot of you are, and get the word out about the guests and the shows and the things we cover, because this is life and death, and we predicted all of this because we've done our research, and it's going to get a lot worse unless we turn this around.
So there's a real desperation here, ladies and gentlemen.
And I see the lackadaisical attitude of the general public, and it enrages me.
But it's not their fault.
They've been put since birth in front of a TV in a trance state, and we are a nation and a world of watchers, not of doers.
So you better start doing now instead of watching.
But they want you locked up in your house, watching, not doing.
They want jellyfish.
They're conquering us.
This is an electronic, psychic, spiritual takeover.
This is an overriding of the planet.
This is systematically planned out.
Mark of the Beast, the whole nine yards.
So yes, I will tell listeners, I appreciate your support keeping us in the fight.
And I've got things and products that all of you already need.
And so I'll just tell you again, with the things we go through here and what it takes to even stay in a position to defeat the globalist and the criminal nature of the system, that if you haven't flooded us with support while getting good products at the same time, we wouldn't be here.
And my frustration isn't like I'm some victim saying, please stay, keep me in the fight.
The longer I'm kept in the fight, The more they just want to kill me or put me in prison, which is fine.
I'm not suicidal.
I'll never commit suicide.
But I'm really not worried about them grabbing me or putting me in handcuffs.
Because all that matters is I've got to continue my mission, not backing down to the end.
And that's all in God's plan.
But I do want to do it to the fullest extent I can.
And that's why I'm asking folks that are around me and everybody else to take this damn serious.
Because this is damn serious.
This is damn real.
So, X3.
The UN reports.
And again, they report all this because they run it.
Almost 3 million people have lower IQs or mental cognitive disabilities.
Just go search, even on NIH.gov, because they don't have enough iodine.
The globalists love that.
That's why the average person is like a retarded jellyfish, because they are.
dan friesen
So, I mean, like, his whole thing about, like, I don't want money, I just want to stay in the fight, leads to an ad.
It's all still just part of the marketing.
At the end, we talked about this a hundred times.
The iodine deficiency numbers that he's talking about are in developing countries and they're being fought by people like the UN.
The people who are the globalists that Alex hates are the people who are actively trying to solve the problem he's pretending exists largely in America.
Just eat some salt.
Eat iodized table salt.
You'll be fine.
You won't have an iodine deficiency.
Most likely.
So, Alex, I mean, it's almost like an entire segment of the show, which is like this, I'm not doing this for money, but you've got to flood us with money.
And I understand how this argument works.
Like, yes, obviously, Alex is presenting it in a way that's like, I don't want the money.
I want the money to be able to continue.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But it seems like the only function of this show is to spread bullshit and make money.
So continuing, it's just to continue to make money later.
jordan holmes
I want money so I can continue to make money!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Why don't you guys get that?
dan friesen
With the presentation of we're actually doing something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Just not.
So, Alex, his whole thing, one of the big narratives that goes throughout this show is about some numbers about starvation around the world.
And he talks about this here in this next clip.
And he's pretty mad that no one seems to care about this.
alex jones
This is what we like.
We like to be hoaxed.
But let me tell you what isn't a hoax.
Third million facing starvation in the third world thanks to this right now.
And they're going to die.
Those little kids are going to die.
And the average trendy doesn't care because they like to wear a mask and feel trendy.
I'm like, oh, I'm so brave.
I'm in a war zone.
It's a war.
dan friesen
So this is a point that Alex kept hitting on this episode.
And it's something that I wasn't super interested in learning about, quite frankly, at first.
Let's say like the first 20 times that I heard him bring it up.
But it got to a point where I realized that it wasn't disinterest that was making me not want to get into it.
It was anger.
Here, Alex is trying to pretend that he has literally any concern for the well-being of people in developing countries who may be affected by the slowing down of economies.
That's a topic that we can discuss, and I will get into it here in a minute, but Alex has absolutely no right to pretend to care here at all.
unidentified
None.
dan friesen
Prior to supporting Trump, Alex staked his claim very aggressively in supporting Ron Paul, the only honest politician, in his 2008 and 2012 runs for the presidency.
One of the big things that Ron Paul believed in was the elimination of all U.S. foreign aid.
The number of deaths that would result from that kind of a move is incalculable.
And it's not even taking into account the hits that developing countries would take in terms of their educational capacity or general sanitation programs.
The staggering level of cruelty that you have to accept to endorse a candidate who wants to get rid of all US foreign aid precludes you from ever being able to credibly pretend you give a shit about anybody in the developing world.
So on that count, Alex can fuck himself.
jordan holmes
You bet.
dan friesen
The number that Alex is citing, about 30 million people being on the brink of risk of starvation, that's not a number that's how many people are predicted to starve if we don't reopen our economy.
Our economy has nothing to do with that figure really at all, at least on a one-to-one level.
This is something that was put out by the UN World Food Program, who warned that we're looking at a very serious world food problem that has the potential to leave millions at risk if we don't do something.
This was something that their executive director, David Beasley, was warning about even before the coronavirus situation was here.
The issue is that there's a whole lot of issues happening right now.
To quote an ABC News article about Beasley's comments, It's because of wars in Syria, Yemen, and elsewhere, locust swarms in Africa, frequent natural disasters and economic crises, including in Lebanon, Congo, Sudan, and Ethiopia.
There is an element to this that does involve our economy and other countries' economies.
And as much as if we can't afford to provide foreign aid to the countries that are facing famine conditions, then there will end up being severe humanitarian crises and a lot of people could die.
This is a very serious issue that deserves attention, but make no mistake about this.
Alex doesn't want our economy to be open so we can send money and foreign aid distributed by the UN.
Alex is using the abstract idea of the deaths of people in developing countries as a prop for his narratives, and it's legitimately disgusting.
This has nothing to do with whether or not Trump tells people to go to gyms or not.
This has to do with whether or not we deprioritize people in developing countries when things get tough at home.
That's the central question as it relates to the matter of people going hungry around the world.
And again, Alex's hero Ron Paul would happily let them all die.
So I guess if Alex actually cares about this at all, he'll call on Trump to provide increased funding to the UN World Food Program.
jordan holmes
Doubt it.
dan friesen
I challenge him to do that, but I suspect he won't because this is a game to him.
And the idea of 30 million dead people in foreign countries in the developing world is just a prop that he can use to argue in order for the economy to reopen so these large companies that he pretends to be opposed to can make a profit.
jordan holmes
If a millionaire pretends to give a shit about anybody in a developing country, they should have their money taken away from him and be tarred and feathered.
I think that would be the way to solve most problems.
dan friesen
Sure, that's a side issue to the more important one that is Alex's bullshit.
It's like, yes, this is a real thing.
And you know what?
There are people who are talking about this.
Alex is pretending that no one cares.
You know who cares?
People in the fucking UN world and the food program.
The people who are actually on the ground working to avert this humanitarian crisis.
Not people like Alex blowing hard on the radio about how he doesn't like his show and he wants to fucking quit and run away to a redoubt, but no, I'm going to stay here forever!
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
What an asshole.
dan friesen
So, as this episode ends, Alex descends into a bit of a situation where he's reiterating and really hitting harder these narratives about how doctors are just fucking.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
No one's in the hospitals.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
Doctors are just drinking and fucking.
unidentified
Great.
alex jones
The hospitals are empty.
I talk to people I know that are nurses and doctors.
They're having sex and watching Pornhub and Netflix.
They're drinking.
jordan holmes
At the same time?
unidentified
They're taking pills.
alex jones
They're having orgies.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
That's on record.
jordan holmes
Which record?
alex jones
They're taking pills.
They're drinking vodka.
They're drinking whiskey.
They're drinking wine coolers.
They're drinking White Claw.
What?
His hospitals are empty and all there is is booty call time.
Booty, booty, booty, booty everywhere.
Rockin' everywhere.
Rockin' everywhere.
At the Players Club for a month or two.
That's what's really going on is they're at the Players Club, folks.
Bang the nurses.
Take the pills.
Snort the coke.
Party, party, party, party, party every day.
Rockin' every day.
Rockin' every day.
You see them headlights?
You see me knock them curtains down?
I'm doing 100 on the highway.
That's what's going down, baby!
I've talked to friends and family and they say it is a giant orgy.
dan friesen
Again, this is just based on things that his dumb friends are saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I also don't think that that's necessarily true.
I would suspect that this is mostly about, like, he might have seen, like, a TikTok video of nurses dancing somewhere and assumed, like, oh, they're all dancing everywhere.
And then he's just filled in the blanks and tried to apply, like, oh, I talked to all these doctors and they say it's all just an orgy.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I think one way to reduce his outsized aggression towards hospitals and doctors and nurses would be to neuter him.
I think neutering is a way to solve a lot of his aggression.
dan friesen
Well, COVID-19 is coming for your balls.
jordan holmes
I really think that's a good way to go.
dan friesen
So Alex ends the episode here kind of excited that these nurses that are all just fucking and taking pills and stuff, they'll all die in the future.
Great.
And then he admits that he hasn't really done his job at all because he freaked out and got really mad.
alex jones
But here's the thing.
Those nurses that have done the fake videos saying everybody's dead and all that, they'll be crying for mommy when we're Venezuela and we will be, don't worry.
Just look at these people.
You know, I said I'd get to Craig and EJ and Ken and...
Sonny and everybody else.
And I love you to death, but I didn't do it.
I'm a bad person.
I know Troyer's coming up, but I guess I should jam a call or two in here.
You know, I've got like 20 more videos here.
But just remember what Jeff Zuckerberg said.
jordan holmes
Again, Jeff Zuckerberg?
alex jones
You dirty, filthy scum Americans.
And you don't go outside.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is weird.
It does seem like he maybe is making that mistake kind of regularly.
I'm still of the mind that it's misspeaking and it doesn't mean anything.
But it is weird.
It's more consistent than it appeared to be originally.
But yeah, so he's, you know...
I mean, the whole thing about delighting in the idea of these nurses and medical professionals...
Dying, begging for mommy is gross.
But more importantly to me, I think, is this admission at the end here.
Didn't take all the calls that I said I was going to take.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Didn't get to these stories that I was going to cover.
jordan holmes
Why would you?
dan friesen
Because I had a freakout in the middle of the show and I had to be really defensive about how I don't want just money and also I hate my show and the world deserves to burn.
Then I got a talking to and came back on air and said, hey, sorry about that.
jordan holmes
I'm a whiny little baby is all I heard.
And I think we should change it to first.
Do no harm to anyone but Alex Jones.
I don't think he deserves medical care if you are saying that nurses are making fake videos.
Fake videos after 16-hour shifts.
dan friesen
Fuck him.
I feel like it's okay for you to say that, but if I heard a doctor say that, I would be offended.
Because I think that doctors and medical professionals, and this is true from a number that I've spoken to and some friends that I have who are in the field, there's a calling.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You have to sort of take away your ego or whatever feelings you have about, like, this is a bad person.
Yeah.
Because if you get into that game, you end up in a place where, you know, you'd be denying care to people on all sorts of arbitrary...
jordan holmes
They should not be the arbiters of who gets and who denies care.
Who lives or dies.
dan friesen
But for you to say that as an opinion you have, I think it's fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're not a doctor.
jordan holmes
No.
In fact, I will give him medical care from me directly.
dan friesen
That would be bad.
jordan holmes
That might be worse.
dan friesen
So Alex ends the 21st, and we get into the 22nd, Wednesday's show, and he opens up real, real hot.
alex jones
I have news.
So insanely important that I'm choking right now.
I mean, the crew knows this is not theatrics.
They've been watching me the last month here.
dan friesen
Doing theatrics?
jordan holmes
I think so.
alex jones
This is so incredible.
It's all confirmed.
dan friesen
I don't know what the big news is.
jordan holmes
It's confirmed, though.
dan friesen
I listened to this episode, and I think I have maybe two possibilities for what the big news is.
But here's what he says immediately after, which would lead you to suspect that this is what the big news is that's causing Alex to choke on the 22nd.
alex jones
I was saying from numbers I saw three weeks ago that about 2 million people are starving to death right now or dying in the next month.
From the numbers I saw, just out of India, it was 2 million, so I just went with that one country.
ladies and gentlemen the numbers are now in from the UN themselves who again hate this and then ask for power and control 30 30 million are starving to death on top of the 10 million right now.
That's the Globe and Mail, the big Canadian paper.
dan friesen
So it's possible that that's Alex's big news, the story that's so big he's choking and not being dramatic for sure.
It's the story that he covered the day before, about 30 million people dying in developing countries at risk, or people not dying necessarily, but at risk of starvation.
That doesn't make sense to me.
Although it does make sense in Infowars world.
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
dan friesen
It doesn't make sense from a perspective of, like, actually taking this as a sincere actor.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The news that you reported yesterday is somehow fucking you up today.
jordan holmes
Choking today.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So the Globe and Mail article that Alex is talking about is a week old when he's here on air.
It's from April 15th, and it just covers the same issues we talked about earlier.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Also, if Alex's argument is that the globalists want to shut the economy down in order to kill off all these people, which seems to be what he's getting at.
He's going to have to contend with this quote from the UN World Food Program Executive Director David Beasley from that very Globe and Mail article that he's citing as a source.
Quote, If we lost our funding, a minimum 30 million would die.
Over a three-month period, that would be 300,000 people dying per day.
That's why leaders have got to balance out the COVID response with keeping the economy going, because otherwise, a lot more people will die from starvation and economic deterioration than from COVID itself.
So the UN simultaneously wants to crash the economy to punish Trump and are advocating that we balance keeping some of the economy going so we can provide aid to the developing world.
Seems like maybe the first one is just Alex's paranoid imagination.
jordan holmes
It could be.
It could be.
What you gotta understand, Dan, is it's about what they're not saying.
dan friesen
It's the jazz?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's the notes you can't hear that makes the notes you can hear paranoid lies?
I don't know.
dan friesen
So that's one possibility is the big news, but it doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense since he's already reported this.
I don't know, but that's one possibility.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
This next clip is not a possibility.
jordan holmes
Not a possibility.
dan friesen
This is not the big news.
But it's big news to me.
jordan holmes
Old man house phone died, tragically.
dan friesen
We have bad news.
He's with Don DeGrand Preet.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Alex tells a story about getting in another fight with somebody about masks.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
What a child.
dan friesen
He apparently was driving around.
He saw his son driving around.
And so he flagged him down into a liquor store parking lot.
And that is the setting of this story.
alex jones
So last night, I see my son driving down a side road.
He doesn't live with me.
He's grown up.
He's moved out now at 17. He flags me.
I say, pull in here.
And we pull in.
To a strip center.
And we're not parked in the front row.
We're parked in a side row about 30 feet from a liquor store, from a tanning place, and from an AT&T store.
In fact, we're parked kind of by the AT&T store, maybe 40 feet from the liquor store.
And I see guys with masks putting boxes out front of it, and one of them looks at me and says, put your mask on.
But from a distance, I can see what he was saying.
So I talk to my son.
He walks over with me.
I had to shoot footage of this on my phone.
dan friesen
Shocking.
alex jones
Yeah.
I'm not trying to come in and buy your liquor.
He goes, well, still you need to wear a mask.
So I start talking and people come out of the store and they go, oh, Alex Jones.
Yeah, it's all a fraud.
Did you see John Roberts today saying it's 0.1% dying?
And I said, yeah.
That's what a lot of the numbers are showing.
We'll go over that in a moment.
It's beyond bombshell.
So there were the three people in the liquor store coming out when I'm arguing with a guy.
Who's telling me from 30, 40 feet away, hey, put your mask on.
I guess he thought I was coming in the liquor store.
And so I started trying to show the guy the video.
He didn't want to see it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
alex jones
Power trip look in his eye.
And I said, you're pathetic.
You're being dog trained to submit and all this six foot separation.
They're coming out with microchips.
They're coming out with forced inoculations.
This is all a setup for medical tyranny.
And you're a fool.
And the guy started laughing at me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
alex jones
I just said, listen, I'm not putting you down.
You work at a liquor store.
But there's a reason.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
I'm successful and there's a reason you're not.
You are a willful moron.
dan friesen
And then a couple other security guards came up and he walked back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Better to leave it.
jordan holmes
God, what a...
dan friesen
Yeah, that last part too is real dickish.
You dumb liquor store worker.
That's why I'm successful and you're not.
jordan holmes
I know how to lie to people and I never learned how to read.
dan friesen
So I don't think this story happened.
I think it's just another one of his sort of defensiveness fantasies surrounding masks.
But ultimately, it's just a sales pitch for the masks.
It really is just the lead-in.
jordan holmes
God, I hate him so much.
alex jones
Got another guy.
In a gas station the day before that, pull that crap.
So that's the reality of where we are.
If you're wearing a mask, I'm not judging you.
In fact, we ordered a bunch of masks that are coming in next week, so you can pre-order them now, that are a nice black mask with Infowars.com on them.
And if you, in the future, they're saying, this is going to go forever now.
Watch.
It's submission.
So if you've got to get on an airplane or you've got to go in the grocery store, hey, a light, comfortable cloth one that you can breathe through.
Go along with the Kabuki Theater, the submission, but fight back while you're at it and shoot your mouth off the whole time.
Limited edition COVID-19 hoax mask.
I told them to put hoax on the page.
They didn't, so listeners are like, well, it's hoax, but you're not.
Yeah, but you're selling a mask.
dan friesen
Yeah, why is that?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Probably some sort of law or warning that he's already...
dan friesen
I mean, maybe.
But I also probably don't want that to be on the Wayback Machine or something that people can find and point out later.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But the question of you saying it's a hoax, but you're selling masks, that is a good question.
And people should ask themselves why that is the case.
jordan holmes
You would think.
He's not out here for money, Dan.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He's not out here for money.
dan friesen
No.
It's almost like, let's say, There's forced work brigades that come in.
Alex is against that.
jordan holmes
No, no, it's terrible.
dan friesen
But you know what?
They come in and he's like, you know what?
Yeah, we're selling transportation to the work brigade.
jordan holmes
Well, of course.
dan friesen
But what you should do is you should get in, but also yell a bunch.
jordan holmes
You gotta do it.
dan friesen
You gotta do it.
Do the submitting thing that the tyrannical government is forcing you to do while giving me money, but also make a stink about it.
That's not what the patriots would do.
That is not what...
A heroic dissident.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
A dissident like Alex should be saying, fuck masks, period.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
If you wear one, you're not an info warrior or something.
That's the line he needs to take.
Not like, hey, we'll make a brand out of this.
It's fucking nonsense.
unidentified
As always, InfoWars, the butt of the spear.
jordan holmes
We will come up, you do it.
dan friesen
The folks who will find a way to profit off spears.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in that clip where he was talking about fighting a guy, yelling at a guy in a liquor store parking lot, Alex mentioned this video of John Roberts of Fox News talking about the coronavirus death rate.
And it has to do with a study from USC.
We'll get into that here in a second.
And this is the other candidate for the big news that was making Alex choke.
alex jones
There's 400 plus thousand people in LA County, the health department's reporting, and there's only 600 and something dead.
And I looked up the numbers today, 663 that may have died from coronavirus.
They had a positive test for coronavirus, so they may have died from it.
663 people, out of their estimates from what they've been testing now, 400,000 or more.
So close.
unidentified
And add three to it.
You get 663 divided 400,000 equals, and then there's the number right there.
alex jones
There's your final number.
unidentified
6, 5, 7, 5. If you flip it upside down, it says boobs.
dan friesen
This is brutal.
alex jones
You do your own math with that, but that is not even close to 1%.
dan friesen
So, like I said, I think this might be the big news.
It's a story that he's covering a lot on this episode, and there's kind of two aspects to it.
One is bullshit, and the other is misrepresentation.
The bullshit part is that it all boils down to a video that someone captured of Fox News' John Roberts talking to New York Times photographer Doug Mills before one of these White House press briefings.
The video has been used to present the idea that the virus and the response to it is a hoax.
Even though if you watch the video, Mills says, quote, so it's a hoax?
To which Roberts replies, quote, no, I don't think it's a hoax.
This video has been used by all manner of conspiracy theorists.
The big narrative has been that Mills accidentally slipped up and admitted that there is a secret vaccine.
Roberts says that Mills doesn't need to wear his mask because the fatality rate is lower than we thought, to which Mills replies, quote, oh yeah, we've all been vaccinated.
It's clear that they're friends fucking around.
And even when reached for comment, Roberts even said that was just gallows humor.
To Alex's credit, he's not selling the vaccine portion of this video.
He's interested only in the lower fatality rate part of it, which was John Roberts discussing the misrepresented part of Alex's narrative.
Roberts was bringing up a study conducted by USC that reached a conclusion that there may be as many as 400,000 people in LA County who have had coronavirus.
This study has yet to be peer reviewed, but if it stands to scrutiny, all it really shows is that there may be a much lower fatality rate in LA County than we currently knew to be the case.
had assumed that the numbers we had weren't fully accurate for California because relative to other states that have had high numbers of cases, there hasn't been as much widespread testing in the state.
It could well be that the number of people who have had the virus in the state is higher than the confirmed number, but I don't really see how that makes the outbreak any less serious.
It possibly puts California's fatality rate into a lower range, but that's about it.
Also, given the lower proportion of tests administered in California, it's also possible that the death numbers that we have for the state are lower.
jordan holmes
Perhaps even probable.
dan friesen
It's unclear.
There's a lot of assessment and study that needs to be done here to get a completely clear picture of what's what.
And this study is interesting, but we need to see what happens with it moving forward.
Once that happens, I'll assess things once they're more concrete, because unlike Alex...
I don't base my beliefs on preliminary studies.
There very well may end up being, this could be a situation where this is good and it's a well-done study, but there's plenty of examples in the past where things appeared to be some way and then it turns out, oh no, here's a problem with this.
jordan holmes
No, Dan, it's a peer-reviewed study.
dan friesen
Well, this one isn't.
jordan holmes
It is because I am technically one of their peers.
If we can serve on a jury together, that means I'm a peer and I give it.
Four stars.
Peer review.
dan friesen
Go home and tell your mother you're brilliant.
jordan holmes
Four stars.
dan friesen
All right.
Whatever.
So in this next clip, Alex has some complaints that he wants to make about the Pope.
He has some beef.
With the Pope and the globalists.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
alex jones
This is their globalist revolution to cut the carbon, to kill the industrial state, to make you poor, and to make you austere.
This is their admitted plan, and they're all over the news.
The Pope says, we are dying because we're evil.
We deserve this.
Capitalism is wasteful.
The Earth is doing this.
You're hearing the whole UN, Gaia, world government speech that we deserve this from the Hollywood trash and everybody else.
That are the same ones saying, shut everything down to save lives.
dan friesen
So the Pope and the globalists and the Hollywood trash, they're all coming out with this message that we deserve this.
Now, Jordan, I'd like to transport you back 24 hours on Alex's own show.
alex jones
America and the world's gonna burn.
It needs to burn.
We killed too many babies.
We're done.
We're gonna lose.
God just needs to blow the planet up.
See, I realize now that that's why I feel we need to pay for what we've done, actually.
We are filth.
We are cowards.
We are trash.
And so all the yuppies wearing their mask and all the trendies getting into it, they're going to have everything they have taken, and they're going to starve to death, and it's good.
Look, I didn't mean the things I said last second.
dan friesen
All right, Alex.
Girl up.
jordan holmes
I can't believe that the Pope and the government in Hollywood would say that we deserve this.
How dare they?
I said it!
dan friesen
Or maybe Alex is part of the Gaia globalist plan or whatever.
jordan holmes
I did not expect the Pope to be a secret pagan earth worshiper, but why not?
dan friesen
So the last refuge of the scoundrel is patriotism.
According to Thomas Jefferson.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Quote Thomas Jefferson.
But it turns out that the last refuge of the Patriot scoundrel is saying like, hey man, things would be worse if Hillary was in.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Which is like, when all else fails, just be like, hey, isn't this better than Hillary?
jordan holmes
At least it's not Hillary.
alex jones
Can you imagine what would be happening if Hillary Clinton was president today?
They would be carrying out this exact same plan, except...
It'd be ten times worse because you wouldn't have Trump in there trying to block it, trying to reason with the American people to not be hysterical and to not give in to the fear.
But they didn't do that.
So the president then had to ride the wave or he would have been destroyed.
dan friesen
Whatever.
alex jones
And that was the trap that was set.
But the next part of the trap is destroy the economy, which they've basically already done.
Crude oil's never been at zero, and now it's negative.
And sweet crude and processed crude is on its way down to zero.
That's called cardiac arrest in the economy.
dan friesen
Yeah, I love sweet crude.
Put it on my waffles.
jordan holmes
It's good stuff.
dan friesen
So the negative oil prices were specifically about futures contracts for May for West Texas Intermediate's crude oil.
The reason the price hit negative rates was because it was the day before those contracts were going to be closed.
And if you held those contracts when they closed, you were obligated to accept delivery of the oil.
The price cratered because a lot of people who held those contracts could not store the oil, and thus they were desperate to sell off the contracts.
The price for West Texas intermediates June contracts hasn't gone to zero, although it is at about $14 a barrel when I was preparing this episode, so it's still a bit down.
In fairness, however, if things don't change, it could very well hit negative rates as we come up on the closing date of those contracts.
It's possible, but for now, it's not what Alex is presenting.
There are a lot of issues with this situation, and some of them could combine to spell trouble in the future.
But this particular incident with the negative prices, that shouldn't be the main thing that people are focusing on.
For one thing, during the coronavirus period, there's obviously a decreased demand for oil.
In response to this decreased demand, it was requested that OPEC countries cut back production.
But this has not happened to the extent that it would be needed in order to balance out the supply and demand.
As such, there's an excess of oil being created, with people having a difficult time storing it, and, uh, well...
I should say they're having a difficult time storing it on land.
According to the World Economic Forum, quote, some oil producers, hoping to maintain their market share, have taken to storing their excess oil at sea, leasing tankers at high costs.
Some are believed to be paying in excess of $100,000 per day for each tanker.
unidentified
Hey!
dan friesen
I'm no expert, but I feel like massive storage ships of oil on the sea is a recipe for trouble.
unidentified
When has that ever been an issue, Dan?
jordan holmes
Dan, I can't think of any situation.
dan friesen
Never, never, never.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
Come on!
Come on!
Hey, oil's great.
Let's put it everywhere.
dan friesen
Another compounding factor is that Alberta oil, which is produced from oil sands, is no longer profitable to produce.
It costs more to extract and transport it than it would to sell for, which has caused people to flee from it as a commodity.
According to the Financial Times, this will, quote, not on its own cause significant damage to the U.S. energy sector.
However, they note that it could hurt the perception that oil is a safe investment.
Based on their assessment, the solution is fairly simple.
We need to either slow production of oil, start using a ton more of it, or find places to store the oil we're currently producing.
Unless we do one of those things, the supply and demand will be out of balance and we'll just keep seeing volatile pricing.
It's a bad situation and one that could cause some potentially troubling ripples, but honestly, it could also provide the political will to finally do something about the deep-seated problems in the US energy market.
It seems like there could barely be a better time to start making moves towards alternative energy models, since an incident like this demonstrates the benefits of not being so concerned with a single commodity that can blow up overnight.
It seems almost like there is a silver lining to an incident like this.
jordan holmes
Counterpoint, what if instead Trump just gets as many of his followers killed as possible and bails out the oil industry?
dan friesen
Why not both?
jordan holmes
Have you considered that?
dan friesen
This could be a situation where your boy Mark Moreno could really take it on the chin.
jordan holmes
I would very much like to give him one on the chin.
dan friesen
So Alex talks here about how he knows that these globalists, their eugenics cult, and he's known this for a really long time because back in the 60s, they were trying to get all the smart kids.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
By 1966, at places like University of Texas, they were openly taking the top students in the country and teaching them about the eugenics world government takeover.
jordan holmes
Were they breeding them?
dan friesen
This is a really important point to make.
That's all just stuff his dad told him about how he's the smartest boy in Texas, and the globalists tried to lure him into their plan.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You have to really recognize how much stuff Alex believes and repeats, pretending to come from authoritative sources and things that are proven, are just bullshit that his dad probably told him.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
There's a lot of it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You can always trust a CIA dentist, though, Dan.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, but when you look for backup for all this sort of stuff, like, you know, Alex has his standard examples, and one of them he pulls out all the time is Bill Joy's article in Wired Magazine, Why the Future Doesn't Need Us.
jordan holmes
I really don't want to talk about that article anymore.
dan friesen
No.
Because it's very obvious, if you actually go read the article, it doesn't say what Alex says.
However, something that is fairly similar to what Alex is saying is a short excerpt from the Unabomber that Bill Joy includes in the article.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Now, I know this, and if Alex had read it, he would know it, too.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
In this next clip, when Alex brings up Bill Joy's article, I get a little sense that Alex is keenly aware that he's actually just talking about the Unabomber.
alex jones
They think you're a useful eater.
Bill Joy wrote about it in 1999 in Why the Future Doesn't Need Us, Wired Magazine.
How he went to the meeting with the top billionaires.
They made the decision.
To entertain you, dumb you down, stun you, and then kill you.
Theodore Kaczynski was in the CIA.
He was briefed on all this.
unidentified
It was horrible.
alex jones
He started bombing people he knew were involved in it.
He's in a supermax prison.
dan friesen
I think that clip is a dead giveaway.
I think he absolutely understands that he's just talking about the Unabomber.
There's no other reason for Alex to connect those thoughts, and it's a sad attempt to justify using Bill Joy's article dishonestly.
Also, Ted Kaczynski was not in the CIA.
The psychological experiments that he was a part of when he was at Harvard were administered by Henry Murray, who consulted with the Office of Strategic Services, which would later become the CIA during World War II.
He was involved with the OSS during World War II.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
The way Alex is talking, it becomes pretty clear that he thinks what the Unabomber did was good.
According to Alex, Ted Kaczynski learned of the evil globalist's plan and was sending bombs to people who were putting that plan into action.
Except that's complete bullshit.
It's just a fantasy that Alex is making up.
There's a lot you can go learn about the Unabomber if you want, and this is not accurate.
jordan holmes
You gotta find some way to really love the guy who sent bombs to places and blew them up.
dan friesen
Alex just likes white terrorists.
jordan holmes
Yes, he does.
Hey!
You know what that's similar, too?
Something Joy Behar said about him.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex talks about the big plan with this, like, crashing oil and crashing the economy.
Of course, it all fits into his model of...
The way that Nathan Rothschild did his crashing of the English economy in order to buy it all up.
They're just doing that again.
So Alex tells this story.
And again, this story is not true.
But listen to how passionately he tells this story.
alex jones
Americans are scared of the virus.
They're scared of the fact that the economy is going down.
So China starts showing the people with the chemical sprays again and all the fear and all the drones and locking people up and going, oh, there's at least 30 strains.
Some of them are deadlier than before.
Just like Scooby-Doo.
The bad guys want to take the country over.
They want to drive the stock market down to 5%, buy it all up.
jordan holmes
Just like Scooby-Doo.
alex jones
Battle of Waterloo in 1815.
And Lord Wellington had really just beaten Napoleon for the second time.
It was the Battle of Waterloo.
They sent carrier pigeons to the coast, had fast Corvette, not by Chevy, that's named after a fast ship, haul ass across the channel, and they ran in right as the stock market opened in London and said, Wellington annihilated.
And the stocks went to 1%.
Lord Rothschild bought them all and became supreme ruler of the British Empire.
jordan holmes
Did he?
alex jones
Nope.
jordan holmes
I don't remember that.
alex jones
All down to nothing.
Crude down to nothing.
All the oil down to nothing.
dan friesen
That story's not true.
That's just a standard feature of anti-Semitic propaganda over history.
Like, that's, uh, he believes this, like...
The Rothschild became the supreme ruler!
He just believes things that aren't true.
He passes off his knowledge of this Bill Joy article, what he really knows is Unabomber stuff.
He presents it in a different way, this whole narrative about it.
What he knows is this anti-Semitic propaganda surrounding the Rothschild family in the Battle of Waterloo that was used by Nazis, by their films.
jordan holmes
It's almost like he believes Nazis more than not Nazis.
It's almost like he will believe whatever a Nazi says in order to take advantage of it and he's a Nazi, Dan.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex talks about this John Roberts of Fox News angle and it has to do with The idea that what happened there was that they revealed that the media knows that this is a hoax.
alex jones
But nobody cares about the actual statistic from the county.
They just are freaking out that behind the scenes, the media knows it's a hoax.
She's gone.
Wanted to get her take on that because that is so massive.
That's the clip when you go in a store and they're saying, wear your mask, wear your mask.
You just show them that and say, you're an idiot.
dan friesen
Do you want to show them the part of the clip where the guy says, so it's a hoax, and John Roberts says, no, I don't think it's a hoax?
Because you're saying that this clip proves that it's a hoax.
jordan holmes
No, you don't want to show them that.
dan friesen
You probably don't.
When you go to a store and you yell at somebody about how it's a hoax, and then you show them a video of the media people saying, no, it's not a hoax.
I don't know.
It kind of ruins things.
jordan holmes
I don't even want you to show me a music video of my favorite band at a store.
dan friesen
No, leave me alone.
jordan holmes
Don't show me.
Don't come up to me and say, watch this video.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Go away.
dan friesen
Yeah, especially if you're Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and if you're not wearing a mask.
dan friesen
So Alex seems to think that people are not getting resuscitated at hospitals.
Like, if you go to a hospital now...
jordan holmes
Too busy fucking.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this leads into some pretty weird conspiracy theories about financial motivations that hospitals have for playing along with this hoax or whatever.
alex jones
We've seen this a lot in the last few months.
They said, oh, when it gets bad and 3 million people die in the United States, we're going to stop resuscitating people that have heart attacks, whether they be 50 years old or 80 years old, because we need the hospital space.
Well, now they admit that the hospitals are three times emptier than they've ever been in the last 50 years.
The National Health Service reports they're four times more empty than ever.
unidentified
Empty.
alex jones
But now when you have a heart attack, just like Venezuela, they don't resuscitate you because that's non-essential and you're non-essential.
And I was looking the numbers up.
They had a guest on talking about this and I didn't even know this.
You get four...
In fact, I even pulled the article up a few nights ago when David Icke said it.
I didn't know that.
The feds give the hospital.
If someone doesn't have coverage, $4,000 for pneumonia, $40,000 for COVID-19.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
So there's two pieces in that clip that are complete bullshit.
The first is that when Alex heard people talking about doctors not being able to help every patient and having to decide who gets care and who doesn't, which he seems to be making a joke out of.
It wasn't a discussion about things that are happening now in the United States.
It was a horrifying glimpse at what could happen if our medical system was overwhelmed by the number of coronavirus patients that were coming into the hospital.
It's a pretty simple dynamic to understand.
If the number of people requiring immediate care is greater than the number of people who can provide said care, the care providers will have to decide who to help.
In that situation, you enter a nightmare where you have to write off people who are probably going to die because you can't save everyone.
This conversation wasn't happening for no reason.
It was because back in March, that's exactly the situation doctors in Italy were in.
From an article in Politico, quote, in an interview that went viral after it was published in the Italian Daily, Corriere della Sera, Monday, Christian Salaroli, an anesthesiologist from a hospital in Bergamo, recounted scenes of wartime triage where old patients have to be left by the wayside.
Quote, the choice is made inside of an emergency room used for mass events where only COVID-19 patients enter.
If a person is between 80 and 95 and has severe respiratory failure, he probably won't make it.
Also from the article, quote, for now, the marching orders are save scarce resources for the patients who have the greatest chance of survival.
That means prioritizing younger, otherwise healthy patients over older patients or those with pre-existing conditions.
An article in the AP discusses what that looked like in real life and quotes Marco Resta, the deputy chief of Pollock Linico San Donato's intensive care unit.
Discussing how doctors have to decide who will get access to newly opened intensive care beds, the article says, quote, even if there is no chance, he says, you have to look a patient in the face and say all is well, and this lie destroys you.
It's horrifying to consider, and a few weeks later, Doctors in Spain were dealing with the exact same horrors.
A March 25th article in Bloomberg discusses a Madrid emergency room.
People are dying in waiting rooms before they can be admitted as the coronavirus pandemic overpowers medical staff.
With some funeral service halted in the Spanish capital and no space left in the morgue, corpses are being stored in the main ice rink.
The conversation was not happening because this was something that was happening in the United States, but because it was a horror that our kin and other countries were living through, which could easily be our reality, too, if we made the wrong decisions.
The entire point of the distancing and masks and carefulness measures is for every one of us to do whatever we can to make sure we don't end up in that situation, because once we're there, that's when doctors cannot help you if you have a heart attack.
This is when our medical system has all its resources completely depleted by one pressing emergency and everything else is automatically a lower priority.
If we do these things, we help make sure that situation is one we never have to live through.
If you have a heart attack now, our hospitals will be able to help you largely because of people doing the things that Alex is actively protesting against.
If he gets his way with his dumb rallies against distancing measures and all that shit, there's a chance we will end up in the nightmare scenario that he pretends to be fighting against.
As for that payments thing, that's just something that David Icke told Alex, but David Icke was just repeating bullshit he heard on Fox News.
Minnesota State Senator Scott Jensen was on the Laura Ingraham show and said, quote, anytime healthcare intersects with dollars, it gets awkward.
Right now, Medicare has determined that if you have COVID-19 admission to a hospital, you get paid $13,000.
If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000, three times as much.
From there, the conspiracy world started revving their engines, and it was decided that hospitals had a financial incentive in calling everything COVID-19.
jordan holmes
We should remove the financial incentive from our healthcare system.
That's what they're saying, right?
They're very angry about there being a financial incentive in the healthcare system.
I assume they want Medicare for all, right?
dan friesen
Maybe.
Factcheck.org reached out to Jensen, who told them, quote, he did not think that hospitals were intentionally misclassifying cases for financial reasons, but it hardly matters.
The kernel of the idea had been presented, and once that happens, it doesn't matter if the guy who presented it said, I didn't mean it like that.
Doesn't matter.
It has a life of its own.
Fact check reached out to some doctors to get a sense of what this was all about, and as it turns out, it's bullshit.
This is just the amount that Medicare pays for treatment of COVID-19, not diagnosis.
But according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, these numbers are very much in line with normal non-COVID payments from Medicare, with respiratory infections averaging about $13,000, and in cases that escalate to the need for ventilators, comes in around $40,000.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The Coronavirus Aid Relief and Economic Security Act, which Trump signed into law, did give a 20% uptick in funds for Medicare patients who were treated for COVID-19, but it strains credulity to think that hospitals are just going to be fraudulently...
for a small bump in Medicare funds.
If they're caught doing that, they run the risk of being removed from the Medicare program entirely, leaving aside how they could be sued or charged with criminal malpractice.
Yep.
unidentified
Alex is accusing these doctors at these hospitals of a crime.
dan friesen
It's a pretty serious allegation.
So this kind of situation is one where he's going to need to prove his case or shut the fuck up.
You can't just cite numbers about Medicare payments and then say case closed like you've proven something.
This is a disgrace.
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
I just...
It is never too often to say how high the fucking stakes are and how dangerous he is.
This is terrifyingly dangerous.
This guy is...
And somehow he's technically not committing a crime.
He's getting people killed.
Fox News is getting people killed.
The president is getting people killed.
And somehow that's fine.
Somehow our legal system has no problem with all that.
And neither do we.
Apparently we're just all going to let this go.
dan friesen
We have a problem with it, clearly.
It's where it intersects with foundational freedoms that we've not considered the limits of for a very long time.
We haven't...
Really had that conversation, whereas other countries in Europe, for instance, have these real limitations, like Holocaust denial being illegal in Germany, where you recognize that your free speech rights are not absolute.
When there are real, solid consequences for the things that you say, we understand that in terms of you can punch the air freely, but if I punch you, it's assault.
The consequences do matter in terms of the action.
And I don't know.
I'm not sitting here saying that I support total revamping of our understanding of free speech, but I don't think that the conversation is necessarily unwarranted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, what we're doing now is not as good as other stuff that we could be doing.
And we're not even talking about doing anything else.
dan friesen
Sure.
It's possible that the perspective you're bringing is accurate.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Now, that being said, we're not having a full conversation of it that takes into account the side unintended consequences of what you're advocating.
Because it's very possible that you pull the thread a little bit and you start to realize, well, there might be more severe consequences from that than you're realizing.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying...
dan friesen
You solve one problem and it creates another, possibly.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying that I have the plan to solve it, but there is no way that we can look at what's going on right now and say we've done the best we could do.
dan friesen
It doesn't feel like it.
jordan holmes
It's not possible.
dan friesen
Probably not.
So Alex's talk about this, you have a heart attack now, they're not going to resuscitate you in that last clip.
It turns out that this has to do with the story that he read in the New York Post.
alex jones
New York Post.
New York issues do not resuscitate guidelines for cardiac patients amid coronavirus.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
So there you go.
Death panels, folks.
Bye-bye.
dan friesen
So this is a great example of why I really just don't care for Alex much.
So there is a New York Post article with the headline, quote, New York issues do not resuscitate guidelines for cardiac patients amid coronavirus.
This was about an order that was floated that told emergency workers to not bother reviving someone if they arrive and that person doesn't have a pulse.
Previously, the standard was to try for, quote, up to 20 minutes to revive people.
This article cites an approximately 3-4% success rate in resuscitating patients that have no pulse when EMTs arrive, which is a small number, but definitely not an insignificant one.
This headline was from an article from April 21st.
By the time Alex is on air here on April 22nd, there's another article in the New York Post with the headline, quote, New York scraps do not resuscitate order during coronavirus pandemic.
I know this article came out before Alex got on air because I checked timestamps, and if he's covering this story, he has every reason to be aware of this update.
Paramedics unions were not happy with this guidance, and they pushed back, and the order was reversed.
The conversation about whether or not it's necessary for New York EMTs to conserve their resources to the extent of not spending 20 minutes trying to resuscitate patients they find without a pulse, that's decidedly above my pay grade and I don't know.
But here's the situation from where I'm sitting.
Alex is complaining about a problem that has already been solved by the time he's discussing it.
He's misrepresenting an already solved problem.
This is a perfect encapsulation of much of his career.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
You nailed it.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
unidentified
Only three people voted to bring in the Federal Reserve.
dan friesen
Exactly.
So, the other thing that we get here on this 22nd episode is Alex really, really keeping on swinging about how doctors are just fucking.
alex jones
I got family that are nurses or doctors.
They're drinking vodka and having sex and watching pornos and Netflix, okay?
And I was told by separate people that, yeah, well, we're having a party.
I go, what are you doing?
Well, what do you think?
The nurses and the doctors are having a good time.
What are you doing?
What do you think we're doing?
Watching porn and Netflix?
Yeah.
I got to talk to family.
They go, I'm watching porn and drinking vodka.
But I was like, oh, you're having a party?
What's going on?
Well, there's nobody here.
We're just, what do you think we're doing?
You're banging the nurses.
I mean, this is a family show.
I'm just telling you, there's nobody in the damn hospitals.
They're in there having orgies, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
They're all fucking.
This is a family show.
jordan holmes
If this conversation happened, which I don't know if it did, and I kind of doubt it, here's how that conversation actually happened.
What are you guys doing?
Oh, we're fucking Alex!
What do you think we're doing?
dan friesen
Maybe.
But look, the real thing is like, in this next clip, as Alex is talking about this, it becomes clear...
That the only thing he's taking this from is his family members telling him this, which I don't trust.
alex jones
Well, I talked to some family that works in the biggest VA hospital, one of the biggest in the country.
I'll just leave it at that.
And she said we had one old guy that had it.
He's fine.
They locked everything down.
And basically everybody's drinking and partying.
But, oh, we're all still victims.
And my wife's reading me these text messages, and I'm just like, this is ridiculous.
So then I talked to some other family that works in a big hospital.
And he's a doctor, and he was just like, no, it's like Animal House.
I said, yeah, so the drinking, partying, the nurses and the doctors are, you know, one of the most, let's just say, loose groups is doctors and nurses.
It's like a porn movie, folks.
People know about medical stuff.
That's what goes on in these hospitals.
And so it is just party time.
And it's like, oh, they're so tough.
They're so incredible.
Most of these hospitals are doing elective surgeries, and it's still a tough job when you've got a lot of work to do.
They're all happy because there's nobody in there.
I mean, it's just the hoax of hoaxes.
dan friesen
This is ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
So the function of this that Alex is taking from these very dubious places, this information, the function of it is to argue that these medical workers...
Like the ones you saw standing in the crosswalk opposing these protesters, these Alex Jones-y ass protesters, the reason that they are fighting back against the open the country back up folks is because they're having too much fun fucking.
jordan holmes
They're having too much fun, Dan.
dan friesen
I'm not kidding.
That's Alex's narrative.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
But that's why the medical workers are coming out saying to the people, saying open things up, going, how dare you?
We're not opening up.
There's a party going down inside.
If the houses are rocking, don't come a-knocking.
Come on in.
God bless you, sir.
I appreciate your call, Kenny.
dan friesen
Look at this stupid fucking asshole.
That's the level of thinking that he's bringing to this.
unidentified
These doctors love fucking and taking pills.
dan friesen
They're having a great time inside these.
They're secretly having orgies in these hospitals, and that's why they want the economy to fail, so they can keep fucking.
They can fuck when they're off time.
They don't need this to fuck.
jordan holmes
I just...
I just can't, like...
I don't think Alex actually believes that.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Not a chance.
jordan holmes
But there are people listening to Alex who are saying to themselves, that sounds true, which means they think the entire medical profession is willing to...
dan friesen
Do a global hoax.
jordan holmes
Sacrifice everybody's fucking life so they can fuck in a hospital?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's it.
dan friesen
That's somebody who believes that.
That's what we got here.
jordan holmes
Think about how fucking awful that is.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is so awful.
dan friesen
Very stupid.
jordan holmes
That's just awful.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex complains about vaccines, of course.
They're going to be a nightmare.
They're already a nightmare.
And then this goes exactly where you'd expect it to.
alex jones
And as they've reported, some of these vaccines have the whole human genome in them.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
So yeah, this is a nightmare scenario from hell.
But hey, at least all the sneaking around is over.
The New World Order is out in the open.
They're going to send pedophiles convicted to your school to bounce your kid on their knee.
They're going to track you with drones.
They're going to forcefully inject you.
They're going to make your job obsolete and put you in forced labor brigades.
It's all being announced.
Because Thomas Jefferson was asked once in a letter by a member of the Virginia Legislature.
jordan holmes
Hey, you ever fuck in a hospital?
alex jones
What is the limit of tyranny man will accept?
And he said, is the limit to which you will accept?
Tyrants will always override the next tyrant.
There's no limit to the black hole.
dan friesen
That's a fake Thomas Jefferson quote.
That was actually a Frederick Douglass quote that Alex is just repurposing.
So we have one last thing here on this episode.
I don't believe that the 22nd is nearly as interesting as the 21st.
There's a little bit of stuff in it.
And I might not have really been as interested in covering it.
Because the psychodrama on the 21st is certainly...
Far more interesting to me.
Alex is just like...
One of the reasons I decided to include both of these episodes is because you can see how different his mood is from day to day.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck this.
I hate this show.
This is stupid.
We all deserve to burn on the first day.
The next day, InfoWars is users coming in, hitting the clock, accusing doctors of having this conspiracy where they just want to fuck and are scamming Medicare money.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
Right.
And then the second reason that I decided I'm going to cover this episode is because something that Alex says at the end is very important.
alex jones
The Attorney General looks like Barr more and more is real.
It would take hours to go into how he keeps doing the right thing.
He keeps saying the right thing.
Trump trusts him.
I trust Trump.
Barr calls stay-at-home orders.
House arrest.
dan friesen
So now, Bill Barr has said something that Alex likes.
So it looks like he's a good guy.
How fun is this game?
Who could forget Alex's show from February 14th when he and Steve Pachanek were begging for Trump to fire William Barr because Barr had come out to say that Trump tweeting things about the DOJ's recommendation for Roger Stone's trial and sentencing was not cool.
They were on the warpath, and Alex even went so far as to bring up the fact that there is a Jeffrey Epstein connection with William Barr.
alex jones
We know that Attorney General Barr has really come out against the president.
Some people are saying that it's elaborate theater kabuki and that it's to get Democrat heat off the Attorney General for saying don't send its stone to an exorbitant amount of time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
alex jones
Well, Dr. Steve Buchanan is a smart guy.
And he does know a lot of people in the deep, deep state.
Not the lawyer bureaucracy, but the folks in the military.
Those areas.
jordan holmes
All the lieutenant colonel.
alex jones
And he really has a big problem with Barr.
And he particularly wanted to come on the show today.
So I've told him anytime he wants to come on, there's an open door.
He thinks Barr needs to resign.
And he thinks Barr is going to make a move on the president.
And I tend to agree with him because of the pedigree of Barr.
You know, Barr is up to his eyeballs.
Hey!
jordan holmes
Except for his eyeballs and Jeffrey Epstein stuff.
dan friesen
The list of reasons why Alex should super fucking hate William Barr is a very long one.
ProPublica reported back on April 15th that Barr was specifically blocking 9-11 victims' families from access to FBI files that Trump had, quote, promised to open, saying that even discussing why he can't release these files would be a threat to national security.
For someone like Alex, who made his career on 9-11 conspiracy theories, this should sound a whole lot like someone engaging in a cover-up.
He's Trump's Attorney General, so Alex doesn't even bring the story up.
jordan holmes
Why would you?
Hey, it's looking like he's real, Dan.
dan friesen
There's plenty of examples about this, why Alex should hate him, but this one's particularly funny for me.
Alex's primary identity in his early career was a 9-11 truther, and that's being completely subjugated to his need to be a blind Trump follower.
It's really sad to see where this road he's on has led.
It's led to a repudiation and rejection of self.
Oh, also, William Barr was the Attorney General under George H.W. Bush during the Ruby Ridge standoff, which is one of the earliest inciting incidents of the Patriot militia movement in the 90s.
In his questionnaire that he had to answer for his Trump confirmation, Barr says, I spent approximately 80 hours organizing amokai briefs, including former attorneys general, to support an FBI sniper in defending against criminal charges in connection with the Ruby Ridge incident in Idaho.
I enlisted a law firm to work pro bono on the case and assisted in framing legal arguments advanced in the amokai in the district court and the subsequent appeal in the Ninth Circuit.
shot Randy Weaver's wife while she was holding her infant child.
Yep.
unidentified
William Barr should be a villain of the highest order to Alex, but fuck that noise.
dan friesen
He's down with Trump and he recently said something useful for Alex.
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is a spineless, principle-less pile of shit.
And for all the reasons that he needs to be off air for his own effect that he has on the public and how he's a danger to people, he also needs to be off air for his own good.
He is exactly the opposite of what he pretends to be.
He pretends to care about all this patriot right-wing world, and even according to that, he's a fucking sellout piece of shit.
So go fuck yourself, Alex.
You should be telling yourself.
Yeah, that you're a pile of shit.
You should be looking in the mirror and really wrestling with the fact that you're defending William Barr.
Go fuck yourself.
You're pretending to have any connection to that militia world.
If he had even a kernel of it, he would never be able to.
And the entire time that there's been this will they, won't they with William Barr, it should have always been won't.
It should have always been.
That should have been disqualifying.
The second...
Fucking Trump said, I want William Barr to be my attorney general.
It should have been like, I'm out.
I'm out.
Fuck this.
I know this guy.
I know this guy because you know what?
The FBI are the villains of Ruby Ridge.
And you know who the FBI reports to?
The fucking attorney general who runs the Department of Justice.
William fucking Barr!
I'm sorry.
I'm getting a little animated.
jordan holmes
You're nailing it.
dan friesen
Alex, his entire existence is such a rejection.
Of that which he pretends to be and reality.
And it's just, you're done.
You're done.
You've done your work, what you thought you were doing, Alex, and now you have disgraced yourself.
You've become the villain, even to your own villainous world.
jordan holmes
It's almost like this show is terrible and every moment he does it is torture.
dan friesen
Hey, to quote Thomas Jefferson.
Yep.
So, this show actually ends with...
Alex has an interview with Andrew Torba from Gab.
And it's really funny because Alex says he has a massive, huge announcement.
And his massive announcement is that he hates Zoom and that Gab is coming out with their own version of Zoom.
But it's not done yet.
It'll come out eventually.
jordan holmes
It's called Goom.
dan friesen
It's called On.
No!
So he has this interview with Andrew Torbide.
It's very boring.
It's about something that doesn't exist yet.
jordan holmes
It probably won't.
dan friesen
And then Alex says that David Knight's coming up and is like, click.
jordan holmes
Fuck this.
dan friesen
That brings us to the end of this.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
And, you know, I don't know.
I don't know what's going to happen in the immediate future.
But I would not be surprised to see Alex at least take the rest of this week off.
You know, take Friday, probably Sunday off.
I don't know.
We'll see what happens, but I will be keeping an eye on it.
And look out, because you know what?
alex jones
They're coming for your balls.
dan friesen
Look out.
So we'll be back as the year of the seltzer marches forward.
And as promised at the beginning of the show, I have a rating for the Limoncello.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
80 out of 100.
jordan holmes
80 out of 100?
dan friesen
Yes, it's very good.
jordan holmes
You're giving it that?
dan friesen
It's really good.
Oh, wow.
It continues to be good as you drink.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Still lower than the cherry coffee, but I think it's mostly the surprise aspect of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, cherry coffee.
dan friesen
I had another one of those cherry coffee ones, too, and it was still good.
jordan holmes
Still good?
dan friesen
Still good.
But I am excited because I do have more of the limoncellos, and I'm excited that it wasn't a one-off.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Drink some more of those.
Okay.
We'll be back with more Seltzer Ratings.
unidentified
More Alex Jones bullshit.
dan friesen
But then we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
dan friesen
Where I will be posting all of the...
You will not.
jordan holmes
We're going to put a new page on there.
alex jones
I might.
jordan holmes
I think that's a...
Yeah, we'll see.
Yeah, our website is knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yes, it is at knowledge underscore seltzer and seltzerjordan.
dan friesen
We've got to get those handles.
Also on Face Seltzer.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
And if you'd like to download the show, please go to iSeltzer, rate, leave a review, go to our Seltzer page, and if you want, donate to a local charity of your choice.
dan friesen
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I am the return of Old Man House Phone.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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