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April 22, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#423: April 20, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex Jones' very not-chill 420 show. In this installment, Alex essentially declares that his enemies are unbeatable and that the end of his show may be near. Also, Alex tells a story of yelling at people at the grocery store, and David Icke convinces Alex that Covid-19 doesn't exist.

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alex jones
18:46
d
dan friesen
39:05
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jordan holmes
15:08
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david icke
01:38
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justin golak
00:04
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
And enjoy knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
dan friesen
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan!
jordan holmes
You got a bright spot today!
dan friesen
I do, and actually, it's novelty beverage related.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I got some of these seltzers.
unidentified
Yes!
dan friesen
Aha!
I've decided to declare this year the year of the seltzer.
jordan holmes
The year of the seltzer.
dan friesen
Five years ago, I declared it the year of the seltzer, and I went buck wild, crazy, drinking whatever seltzers I could find.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Me and my old buddy Lane Pichel, a comedian from Chicago, now lives in New York.
jordan holmes
Good comic, yeah, very funny.
dan friesen
At TurboHater on Twitter.
The best Twitter handle in the world.
jordan holmes
And he did.
dan friesen
He and I got into a thing where we were taking pictures of all the seltzers we were drinking, getting them back and forth.
So I've decided it's the year of the seltzer.
This quarantine can't hold me back.
It has nothing to do with quinine or anything like that.
I just really like seltzers.
jordan holmes
Every five years, it's the year of the seltzer.
It's like the Chinese New Year.
It's the year of the rat.
dan friesen
I think that's how we should do it.
jordan holmes
The year of the seltzer.
unidentified
I like it.
dan friesen
So 2020 is going to be the year of the seltzer.
And in an opening salvo of getting down to business on these seltzers, Got this AHA, AHA, which I actually learned is a Coca-Cola product.
unidentified
I didn't realize that.
jordan holmes
Oh, goddammit!
dan friesen
Made me a little bit disappointed.
jordan holmes
I was hoping it was just George Michael's legacy.
dan friesen
Ah, wham!
They got the flavor that seemed the most interesting and the most dangerous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It is a cherry coffee seltzer.
And we were talking about this beforehand.
I was scared to try it.
I did not know what it was going to be like.
And it's fantastic.
jordan holmes
It really is.
I'm drinking one as we speak.
I've already almost finished it in the past 10 minutes.
unidentified
It's good.
jordan holmes
It's quite delicious.
dan friesen
Because the coffee flavor isn't really coffee.
It kind of comes off like a chocolatey kind of thing.
Almost like a chocolate-covered cherry, but not overly sweet.
It's very good.
It's a fine seltzer, and I'm not disappointed to have a couple more of them left in the fridge.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
Anyway, the reason this is a bright spot is because We're starting off the year of the seltzer real strong.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Second...
jordan holmes
First good seltzer of the year.
dan friesen
Second, you've got to take...
The whole idea of these bright spots was kind of to take and celebrate little things that are almost meaningless that are still really nice.
And you can buy a flavor like cherry coffee and you're like, I don't fucking know how this is going to go.
And when it goes well, you've got to take a moment and say, thank you, universe.
You have kept me on a good path.
Or something, I don't know.
jordan holmes
We were in the store when you bought these, and the only argument I could come up with is...
This sounds so crazy.
The only reason it could possibly exist is because it has to be good.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
There's no way that anybody would be like, well, let's put coffee and black cherry in there and have it taste like shit and then put it in the store.
dan friesen
The thinking was like, it's not like some weirdo makes these.
It's a company.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
They have to have a boardroom where people sit around and it's like, cherry coffee, is this a good idea?
I don't think it is.
Let's try it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Of course, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's good.
dan friesen
But I've also been burned.
Some of those other ones.
Sure.
I don't know if I should put him on blast.
jordan holmes
I think so.
It's the year of the seltzer.
That means it's also the year of shitting on the seltzer.
dan friesen
I don't like spin drift.
jordan holmes
We got him!
dan friesen
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Over the weekend was Corona Relief Done Quick, which was the video game thing.
They had the summer games done quick line up all set up and they couldn't do it, obviously.
So instead, they did a quarantine speed run.
A fundraiser that they hastily assembled and they wound up raising a ton of money on a last minute thing and it just makes me feel really good that people can just fucking decide to, as a community, be like, let's fucking do this.
dan friesen
That is very nice.
jordan holmes
Let's just put it together in less than a few weeks and have it go off pretty well.
dan friesen
That is awesome.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Shout out to y 'all video game dorks.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
There was a guy who played, I can't remember the name of it, Pump It Up.
Never heard of it.
It's like Dance Dance Revolution.
dan friesen
Like Parappa the Rapper?
jordan holmes
A little bit, yeah.
It's like a rhythm game.
That kind of thing.
And he played it for an hour straight and it is the most complicated thing that I've ever...
He's an incredible tap dancer.
dan friesen
Why do I remember Parappa the Rapper?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Because it was ubiquitous for a while.
dan friesen
It may have been.
All right, well, shout out to those bright spots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we're going to get an interesting episode to go over.
We got April 20th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 420.
jordan holmes
Hey, all right.
Nice.
God damn it.
dan friesen
So, before we get down to that, we're going to take a look and look in the box and see who is supporting the show and say thank you.
Anyway, first of all, David, thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, David.
dan friesen
Thank you, David.
Next, Steve, thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Steve.
dan friesen
Next, first name Phil.
Last name, your hand.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Phil.
Your hand.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
Next, Laura.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Laura.
dan friesen
Thanks, Laura.
Next, Steven.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Steven.
dan friesen
You got a Steve and a Steven.
jordan holmes
You got a Steve and a Steven.
dan friesen
And Tara or Tara.
That's one of those that always gives me trouble.
jordan holmes
Could be anything.
United States of Tara.
It could be Tara Banks.
You never know.
dan friesen
Don't want to pronounce it wrong, but Tara slash Tara.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on Elevated Level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first of all, Jeffrey, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
Stowley, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Raleigh Live Show, I'll bring a quarantine bubble for Thomas.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Jeffrey.
Thank you so much, Stawley.
And thank you so much, Raleigh Live Show.
I'll bring a quarantine bubble for Thomas.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much to all three of you.
And Thomas, I assume.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you're out there listening to, you like this show and want to support what we do, we can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show.
We would appreciate it.
Or please feel free to direct that energy towards a local charity in your area that will help the people who are directly affected.
In the worst ways by the trouble.
jordan holmes
Yes, we greatly support either decision.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, it's April 20th.
It's 420 on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so I figure maybe we should start off with some chill music.
Get in the mood.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
I like it.
dan friesen
I think I feel like Alex would appreciate that.
jordan holmes
A little yes.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay, we're doing this, huh?
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha ha!
dan friesen
Alright, I did that.
jordan holmes
Your favorite style of music, Dan!
dan friesen
I don't think that 311 is reggae.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
It's just the thing that would make Alex the least chill out of anything in the world.
People who smoke a lot of weed often like 311, and it makes Alex...
Lose his shit and storm off his show.
jordan holmes
I do not like 311.
dan friesen
No, I'm not a big fan of it either.
So, here, before we get down to the actual clips from today's episode, here's an out-of-context drop from the show.
alex jones
I had to get my hair cut Saturday on the black market.
Had a fella come here to the office and cut my hair.
dan friesen
It's a black market haircut, man.
That's wild.
What's fun about that?
jordan holmes
You had to download a Tor browser to connect to the dark web to get a haircut.
dan friesen
You had to pay for it in Bitcoin.
The thing that's really crazy about this is Alex just buzzes his head.
unidentified
He doesn't need anyone to cut his hair.
dan friesen
Like, I understand a lot of these people who are out there, like, protesting with their...
I mean, I don't understand them, but I get the, like, I want to get a haircut.
They have, like, a really complicated haircut.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Alex could just take some clippers and...
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Five minutes.
I'm saying that as someone who buzzes his head at this point.
I would not need anyone to come do it.
That would be a waste of money.
jordan holmes
Dan, he's a media personality.
He needs the finest buzz haircut.
dan friesen
There's literally no difference.
So Alex starts off the show ranting a bit about vaccines, and apparently it turns out that some vaccines are, you know, they're not really vaccines.
What they do is they eat parts of your brain.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And this is important because the globalists want to use these vaccines in order to make sure that people no longer have the parts of their brain that are spiritual.
That's the part of the brain that these vaccines attack.
So you get the vaccine, you'll no longer be able to connect with God.
alex jones
They demand you worship the world government, the mark of the beast.
They demand that you take vaccines into your body that have engineered live viruses that literally eat parts of your brain associated with religious and high brainwave events.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, that's what's going to be in Bella Melinda Gates.
Vaccine.
dan friesen
Okay.
I don't even care.
But this is interesting, because in his...
Conception, these vaccines are going in in order to disrupt the connection between yourself and the divine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is weird.
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
So, spiritual is no longer a kind of nebulous concept.
There is a, like the medulla oblongata, if you fuck with that a little bit, God can no longer talk to you?
dan friesen
That is what Alex believes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There's some sort of, like, maybe electrochemical transmission that is God speaking to you or something.
It's not actually spiritual.
It's all very mechanical.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do like the sci-fi church.
I like the sci-fi churches where it's like, there's a physical explanation for why God is talking to you.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a little weird.
I'm not into it, and I just reject.
Alex has a big narrative today, and it takes most of the show.
And I'll be honest, I'm not going to play him repeating it over and over again, but it does set him off onto a really fucked up sort of headspace.
alex jones
Publicly, the very groups that engineered COVID-19 and launched it and created the hysteria and now demand the lockdown are the groups that have the vaccines already prepared, the viruses already patented, the under-the-skin inoculations with the vaccine to track that you've had the vaccine that will then be used as a digital system for a digital currency with all 7 million people forcibly inoculated with Bill and Melinda Gates' worldwide computer.
operating system under the skin so you're allowed to buy and sell and at the same time it is the currency.
It's all been announced in patents.
2020 06 06 06 You cannot Make that up So this is based on something that's been floating around in the paranoid right-wing online world a little bit recently, and it's the allegation that Microsoft had applied for a patent that was essentially the mark of the beast.
jordan holmes
Hey, why not?
dan friesen
The only real evidence that's provided for this traces back to a patent on PatentScope, numbered 2020-060606, or at least it appears to be.
And it's for a, quote, cryptocurrency system using body activity data.
I read over this thing, and it seems really fucked up.
And it's something that I would be totally opposed to.
But it doesn't seem like the mark of the beast.
It really seems more like a patent for maybe not even something that's real yet, but a technology that would allow biometric data to be used in Bitcoin mining computations, which a person could then be awarded for if they wanted to allow their biometric data to be used for said computations.
So basically, you would have a stimulus from the operation or whatever, and then your rising heart rate or whatever would somehow be used in the computation of the Bitcoin mining.
jordan holmes
Right.
So instead of giant servers, it would be using humans like the Matrix as an energy source to farm Bitcoin.
dan friesen
I don't know about energy source, but yeah.
jordan holmes
Something along those lines.
dan friesen
I'm not into it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, me neither.
dan friesen
But it also doesn't seem as sci-fi and fucked up as The Matrix.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And also the whole thing that Alex is saying, it's like, this would be the mark of the beast that you need to buy and sell.
It also doesn't seem like that either.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like I said, it seems fucked up.
But if it were something that people were choosing to do, like participate in this, I don't really know if I'd call it wrong or evil.
I would need more evidence that this had any kind of applications outside of what it appears to be for me to be too worried about it.
Or even that they can do this.
When you file a patent, it doesn't mean that you have the technology.
It just means, eh, down the road we might be able to...
jordan holmes
Maybe we'll be able to do this.
dan friesen
However, there's another issue, and that is that I don't think that this patent number is what Alex thinks it is.
All that traces back to this post on PatentScope.
But if you search the U.S. Patent Office, you have a real hard time coming up with that patent number.
There's a number of problems.
The first is that patents are numbered beginning with the year of the patent.
So it would start with 2020.
However, the alleged patent...
jordan holmes
I'm patent.
This is 2020.
dan friesen
The alleged patent 060606, that's six digits long.
Patents begin with 2020 and then are followed by seven digits.
So this wouldn't be a valid patent number.
Another gigantic problem is that the number doesn't make sense.
For context, an application for a patent filed on April 16th is number 2020-011-9982.
So you can tell that we are nowhere near patent starting with 06. It took me forever to find, but if you search the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, you can find the actual U.S. patent number, which is 2020-0097951.
The number 2020-060606 is not a patent number.
It's the publication number provided by the World Intellectual Property Office.
The patent exists in the United States, but in line with the Patent Cooperation Treaty, people can file their patents with the World Intellectual Property Office in order to protect their intellectual property in 184 countries that are members of that treaty.
So, I guess the bottom line on this is that I don't care.
Every year some patent ends up with that number, and describing some kind of significance to it seems pretty arbitrary.
Every year some patent is number 42069, or 911.
It doesn't mean anything.
Also, this is not the patent number, and even if it were, a person applying for a patent doesn't control the numbering of their application.
As far as I can tell, the defining characteristic of the biblical Mark of the Beast is that it's something that you will need to be allowed to buy and sell things.
This patent is not for something that you would need to buy or sell things, so on that basis, it just doesn't match up.
Add to that that the application number games, you know, this whole thing, I just end up in a position where my feeling is I don't give a shit.
But there's an important point to consider here.
If Alex is reporting things like the Mark of the Beast being here and real and this specific thing, Then there can't really be any confusion about how there's not much road left in front of him.
Where do you go after you've escalated your rhetoric so extremely that you've reached the last book of the Bible?
When your end times, when it doesn't happen, how does Alex ever try again?
Like, it's one thing to pretend that his dumb radio show averted a gun grab.
It's another to pretend that he held back literal Armageddon.
I think that's one of the essential problems of mixing political conspiracy with religious fanaticism.
Political conspiracy is an endlessly flowing, self-perpetuating, and never-ending road.
There's always another secret player you can pin things on if your existing theories start to look unsatisfying.
But there's really never anything definitive and ultimate about political conspiracies.
Religious fanaticism, on the other hand, is a car that's driving directly toward a conclusion.
It's fine to use religious fanaticism to tease your audience or to augment your narratives a little.
But once it becomes a central component, as it appears to be right now with Alex, it's only a matter of time before you're wrong.
And at that point, it's really hard to explain away your errors.
You're someone like Harold Camping, that guy who said the end is on this date.
You can say that you miscalculated the date or something.
You'll have a retention problem.
You'll lose some people's faith.
But you can move forward with like I miss gal.
What's Alex going to do?
And it's like, this isn't anything.
jordan holmes
Uh, I mean, he could say that God was like, ah, gotcha!
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Fooled you on this one.
dan friesen
So this seems like a bad narrative to me, even from Alex's perspective.
It seems alright in the short term, kind of, but what happens when it goes nowhere?
I can understand, you know, if things don't work out, you can let a little trivial xenophobia-based narrative drop, but this is the mark of the beast.
You can't move on from this piece of the Book of Revelation being fulfilled.
It kind of demands continued coverage, and the train is on the tracks.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
unidentified
I think they...
What?
jordan holmes
Every five years we've got a new Mark of the Beast.
Everybody's...
Like, Fox News even has a graphic that's like, some people are saying this is the new Mark of the Beast.
I think my question is...
dan friesen
Jordan, it's one thing to say some people are saying this is the Mark of the Beast in that glib, like, sort of almost local news human interest story kind of way, and Alex to be like, we have definitively proven that this is the Mark of the Beast.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he could just be like, ah, we were having...
dan friesen
The patent number is 666.
jordan holmes
We were having debates on the patent number.
dan friesen
No, I agree with you that that will be something.
But it's so pathetic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's really sad.
dan friesen
It's pathetic to escalate to, like, I am discussing the ultimate fulfillment of my religion's prophetic vision of the end times.
And then, like, we know eventually, if he's still on the air, we'll do something like that.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
He'll cop out and pretend, like, I didn't say it was the mark of the beast.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's what they wanted you to think.
jordan holmes
They're taking it out of context.
I find it kind of weird and maybe sacrilegious that it seems like he's removing faith from the entire religious process.
Like, he even, like, with the brain shit, like, he's adding midichlorians.
Like, that's what the brain stuff is.
It's like, there's no such thing as faith.
dan friesen
Some of our listeners have pointed out on a number of occasions that Alex is clearly a prequel scout.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So that kind of makes sense.
jordan holmes
That does kind of make sense.
dan friesen
If he's more into the Star Wars prequels, then there is more of a science-y, like, yeah.
jordan holmes
And the Mark of the Beast has a fucking patent.
That's so lame.
That's so lame that God's ultimate arbiter requires a fucking patent.
dan friesen
Well, that's because, like, that whole, like, they have to tell you what they're doing thing.
The patent number is a little wink for those, like Alex, who can see through the bullshit.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
The devil's lame, then.
The devil needs to get up some new creativity.
dan friesen
Totally.
So Alex isn't just, like, basing this on nothing, man.
The 666 stuff.
jordan holmes
It does sound like he's basing it on nothing.
dan friesen
It's really important.
jordan holmes
I really think he's basing it on nothing.
dan friesen
He's basing it on math.
Nope.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
alex jones
And if you do, 33 pi 666.
Talk to mathematicians.
does build in some secret combination into some secret number that is the highest secret of the Illuminati and that they want implanted in us as part of a ritual to have us merge under that Okay.
dan friesen
I feel like Alex might be high.
jordan holmes
Is raw out here?
dan friesen
It's 420 shows.
Alex is just pulling out numbers.
These build magic.
jordan holmes
Any mathematician will tell you that 222 multiplied by 3 magically becomes 666.
dan friesen
33 times pi 666 something or other is a secret number.
Go home.
jordan holmes
54321.
dan friesen
So Alex is his biggest Like, different narrative from other things we've covered in the past is this new patent.
And I find that leaves me cold.
I am not enticed by this.
I don't find it compelling.
But Alex has other things to complain about, namely that some people are talking shit.
He wants them to keep his name out their mouth.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
Coming up next segment, we have the video, Joy Behar.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Came out on The View today and said that I'm a terrorist by name and that you're a terrorist, too.
Because you went out to rallies and said you are essential.
dan friesen
So I look forward to Alex turning this into all the Democrats are saying I'm a terrorist.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Of course.
Of course.
dan friesen
Like, really, on a really basic level, the only things that he really has the right to be, like...
Really all they're mad about are Bill Maher and The View.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That makes this show look really sad in context.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What else has he got?
dan friesen
Well, the rest of the stuff is just imaginary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
Oh, man.
What a loser.
dan friesen
So Alex complains in this next clip about how Bill Gates and the Foundations or whatever, they're teaching kids, they're indoctrinating them with a little game called Spaceship.
alex jones
That's a game they play under Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funding in public and private schools called Lifeboat or Spaceship.
And they say, we're a spaceship going to this star.
We have a malfunction.
There's not enough food.
We have to get rid of a third of the crew.
Who is essential?
Well, we need the captain.
Well, we need the scientist.
Well, we need the farmer for once we get there.
The machines, though, are able to run the engines.
We don't need the engineer.
Engineer, volunteer for us to blow you out the airlock.
I volunteer.
I'm not essential.
Same thing with lifeboats.
There's only so much food in the lifeboat.
We're not going to get to the island for about six months.
We're all going to starve to death unless somebody dies.
And then you've seen Spock in Wrath of Khan, you know, where you have an example.
That's where somebody chooses to die, knowing the whole ship's going to die if he doesn't die.
So they make it very noble to do that.
But see, The globalists are saying no humans are essential.
They want a post-human world.
This is a wild cult.
dan friesen
I'm not sure they are, but also I wonder, I can't quite tell if Alex is denying that there are situations like those described in those thought experiments.
And it is noble to volunteer to sacrifice yourself to allow...
I mean, that's kind of a foundation of...
jordan holmes
Altruism?
Maybe even Christianity, in fact!
dan friesen
And community!
It is.
Like laying down your life so that other people might live is an expression of love and care for other people.
jordan holmes
Do you know what?
The globalists pressured Jesus into going up on that cross.
Did you know that?
He didn't want to do that.
But Bill and Melinda Gates were back there, went back in time.
They got the globalists to brainwash all of the Jews at the time.
And then Jesus was like, I'll give myself up.
I'm not even actually the son of God.
And they made the whole thing up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that Alex is just maybe mad that one of his kids is learning about utilitarianism.
jordan holmes
100%.
This is personal.
dan friesen
This is just like, okay, these are just like really basic philosophical concepts of utilitarianism.
Does the ends justify the means?
Does more people surviving in this lifeboat make it moral to pressure someone to not survive in the lifeboat?
And it's an open question.
jordan holmes
Have you heard the game that they're playing now with kids?
It's called...
So you've got a train, right?
And you have control over the train and you can either turn it so it kills five people or it kills one people?
Have you heard about this game?
It's called Globalist Find a Way to Kill Six People!
dan friesen
You have to not do anything and it kills the five.
Or do something and it kills one.
Alex has a real problem with really just 101 philosophical ideas.
jordan holmes
Do you know how many people are involved?
dan friesen
How many?
jordan holmes
Six total.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
What happens if you multiply that by pi 33 or whatever?
There you go.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
Secret numbers.
dan friesen
Secret numbers.
jordan holmes
Mark of the Beast!
dan friesen
So, back to that Mark of the Beast idea.
justin golak
Like, it's pretty clear that Alex is like, this is it.
jordan holmes
This is the end times.
alex jones
Next centuries of news today.
unidentified
Thanks.
you No, not as good as John the Revelator in the island of Patmos 2,000 years ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, nobody's that good.
unidentified
Oh my goodness.
alex jones
God warned us.
And God's going to have to step in.
But we've got to step up and take our licks because the Antichrist will wage war against the saints and overcome them.
That's only in the first act that then summons the boss.
dan friesen
Bruce Springsteen.
jordan holmes
Ah, goddammit!
Oh, man.
dan friesen
The world government's gonna come into place, and then...
Bruce is just going to come.
You're just going to hear...
jordan holmes
Somebody needs to tell Courtney Cox that she danced with the devil.
dan friesen
No, the boss is God.
unidentified
Bruce Springsteen is going to come in and vanquish the new world order.
jordan holmes
Somebody tell Courtney Cox she danced with God.
dan friesen
He's going to come in.
He's going to put the globalists into a 10th Avenue freeze-out.
That's what's going to happen.
unidentified
Alright, alright.
jordan holmes
I like it.
We got Weinstein on drums.
I'm feeling great about this.
dan friesen
You got the force ghost of Clarence Clements coming back.
Play some horn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that sounds great.
dan friesen
So we're in the end times, bro.
jordan holmes
You know, it seems so crazy to me that whenever these type of guys see their personal end coming, they always say that the end times are coming.
Isn't that a weird coincidence that those two things always happen at the same time?
dan friesen
It is very strange.
jordan holmes
It's so weird.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yeah.
I think there's a lot to that, perhaps.
But who knows?
I mean, Alex is real pretty fucked up on this episode.
We'll see a little bit of that a little bit later.
It takes him a while to get to the point where he's like, I give up.
But he's there.
It's not like he's not doing well.
I mean, that also could just be because the Beast is coming.
jordan holmes
It could be that.
I forgot about that.
dan friesen
The mark of the Beast is upon us.
alex jones
You know that patent we just played?
If you're a radio listener, we put the patent on screen.
unidentified
666.
666.
jordan holmes
Does it still count if it's 0606?
alex jones
To make it a bigger joke.
jordan holmes
Alright, there we go.
You got me.
unidentified
You won.
alex jones
See, it's a code.
It's not three numbers up against each other.
Let he who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast.
Four.
A human number.
jordan holmes
Seven?
Nineteen.
alex jones
The number of a man.
dan friesen
I think that Alex is just riffing from the Iron Maiden song, Number of the Beast.
Not Revelation.
The tip-off for me was that he said it was a, quote, a human number, which is right from the lyrics of that song, but it's not in the Bible.
I have a hunch that Alex realized that, and then he corrected it to, quote, the number of a man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Regardless, this theory of his has some real problems that he needs to explain.
The first is that the mark of the beast, according to Revelation, is the work of the second beast.
So Alex is going to need to fill in some blanks if he wants to pretend this is like some prophecy coming true.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Where's that first beast?
jordan holmes
Stilter.
Done.
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
Solved it.
dan friesen
Obama.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Or it could even be like, the second beast is the UN, and the first beast was the League of Nations.
jordan holmes
Man, Patmos, or John of Patmos is really good if he predicted the entire UN being the second beast.
dan friesen
It must be.
jordan holmes
That's some good stuff.
dan friesen
It's gotta be.
jordan holmes
He is the best, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex is pretty mad about masks on this show.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
He thinks that if you wear a mask, it's a sign of you submitting.
jordan holmes
Is it because he's selling too many of them?
dan friesen
Well, that is a conflict that even exists in this very short clip.
alex jones
But let me talk about this before I get to the video of The View saying I'm a terrorist and you're a terrorist if you go out and you protest the lockdowns.
jordan holmes
And you're a terrorist!
And you're a terrorist!
alex jones
We're going to play that next segment, but I just wanted to remind listeners that, yeah, we had our t-shirt maker here in Texas call and say, hey, do you want cloth masks you can actually breathe through?
Because a lot of stores won't even let you in.
FEMA says they're going to do it until next year if you submit.
jordan holmes
But only six months if you don't.
alex jones
Because they'll throw you out of grocery stores anywhere.
InfoWars has them.
They'll get here in about a week.
They're being printed right now in Austin.
They're black.
And on them says InfoWars.com.
And I suggest when you wear them, shoot your mouth off.
Talk about how it's a fraud.
Plug websites.
Get the truth out.
Whatever.
dan friesen
I love...
The idea that he's like, look, wearing a mask, it's a sign of submitting to the globalist agenda, but what am I going to do?
Not make money off it?
jordan holmes
I know, right?
unidentified
What is it?
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, I can't understand you.
Hold on, let me take this mask off real quick.
Have you guys heard about the Mark of the Beast?
dan friesen
It's a real bad sign.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is stupid.
Oh, you dumb assholes wearing masks.
Would you like to buy a mask?
jordan holmes
Would you like a mask?
dan friesen
So this leads to Alex freaking out a little bit.
He's telling a story about what happened to him this morning.
Apparently, he went to a grocery store.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And some people were concerned that he wasn't wearing a mask.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
So he starts yelling at them.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And maybe got escorted out by security.
jordan holmes
I would hope so.
dan friesen
Unclear from the telling of this story.
alex jones
I personally went to the store this morning.
To buy some groceries.
And I got in and they were like, sir, you need to leave.
And I said, listen, you're wearing your stupid gloves.
You understand that you have to take those off each time you do something.
You leaving those gloves on means you're transferring things to me.
And the guy started backing off and I said, see how it makes everybody a suspect?
Notice you've been called essential.
Others are called non-essential.
That's beyond racism.
Total classism saying people are subhuman.
Sure.
unidentified
The guy started stuttering, and I said, that's right.
alex jones
Some other dude said, hey, man, we're all just trying to help.
And I said, no.
I'm informed about the globalist plan.
I told people decades ago this was coming.
You're not informed.
Don't henpeck me, follower.
It's called Snicky.
God, why are you so mad?
And I said, oh, you thought I was going to kiss your ass.
You and your family are dead.
The globalists are going to kill your ass if you submit to this.
Are you going to take the forced inoculation?
And so the security guy and the other guy were like walking back and I said, yeah, that's right.
I'm getting my crap and I'm leaving.
And I said, I swear to you in the future, I'm going to go have a farm or something where this is all going.
So I'm not dependent on you.
unidentified
Because next year, you're going to want me to have proof of your deadly vaccine from Bill Gates for me to be in here!
alex jones
More security came and they began to walk back because they...
unidentified
Justice and reality, ladies and gentlemen.
alex jones
This is all...
Mind control to put you under their control.
All been rolled out.
Right when Trump tries to reopen, they order you to...
Maybe not today.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
So close.
Just missed the break.
I don't believe that story happened necessarily, but if it did, it didn't happen quite like that.
Although, I think there's almost nothing funnier than, eh, then some more security came in.
jordan holmes
Then they moved back, yeah.
Sir, sir, why are you so angry?
Have you not read the news?
I'm being sued by everyone!
unidentified
All you dumb assholes wearing masks are mad at me!
dan friesen
Would you like to buy a mask?
jordan holmes
You want a mask?
Hey!
Hey!
Everybody not wearing masks in here!
You are absolutely right!
But also you need to buy a mask to be in here.
unidentified
If you're gonna buy a mask, you might as well buy it from me.
dan friesen
So that's pretty fun.
jordan holmes
Everyone who doesn't wear a mask is a hero.
And that is why I'm selling masks to you.
dan friesen
Right.
This next clip, not quite as fun.
Alex has a bit of a conspiracy about hospitals being empty.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Why not?
dan friesen
And he kind of seems to think, Based on things that family members have told him.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
That all the doctors are just drinking vodka and fucking.
alex jones
Look, I've got family, I'll leave it at that, that are doctors and nurses.
And I talk to them.
jordan holmes
I don't believe you.
alex jones
In Omaha and in California and other places.
And they say it's dead.
But when there's one COVID case at a giant VA hospital, you'd think Santa Claus landed his happy ass in there, man.
It is.
Why?
unidentified
The moon suits and the media, and then they're all drinking vodka.
alex jones
Why?
This is a giant vacation.
unidentified
Okay.
Because the insurance companies...
alex jones
Are feeding all of these opium addicts.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
We'll go into these surgery areas and they'll get one surgery per finger or per digit.
dan friesen
This is back.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
At these surgery centers.
dan friesen
Seems unconnected as a thought.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
alex jones
People getting hundreds of surgeries per decade now to fulfill their opium habits.
I've talked to the doctors involved.
You know how brain damage that makes somebody when you've got 20, 30 anesthesias?
It causes brain damage, folks.
dan friesen
So everywhere...
jordan holmes
But the opium addiction is fine.
alex jones
We're just basically getting drunk every day.
This is the best time of our lives.
You hear that?
Just don't quote us.
The nurses and doctors are having sex, man!
You're quoting them!
It's a joke!
dan friesen
That's not the experience that I've heard from some healthcare professionals, but whatever, Alex.
jordan holmes
Man, I really think he's a terrorist.
unidentified
Alex?
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, like, I don't know.
Maybe his dad is, like, who he's talking about.
His dad's a dentist.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
I'm just drinking booze and fucking.
jordan holmes
Is he getting drunk?
Okay.
Having barbecues in his parking lot?
dan friesen
I would say that I need a little more than Alex's supposed relatives.
jordan holmes
I don't think anonymous sources are the way I'm going to go on this one.
dan friesen
Particularly not on Alex's show.
So there's something that Alex hasn't said yet.
Presumably ever.
But he knows.
Or something.
This clip is really mysterious and I'm not entirely sure what he's trying to get at.
alex jones
I'm not choking.
I'm doing the show and I'm eloquently in most cases covering a lot of the facts.
jordan holmes
Eloquently?
alex jones
There's something I haven't said yet.
And I spend hours a day trying to grasp what it is.
It's like that needle in a haystack.
Your subconscious knows what it is.
It's that nagging thing that your subconscious saw but your conscious didn't notice.
You think about it all day and all night and suddenly the next day you're out walking the dog and pops in your head.
You think about that business partner and something you saw in the accounting that you missed.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
You didn't miss it.
It was fraud.
Or something that was going on with your daughter and you didn't notice at the time, but later you thought about it and you go look in her purse and she's got drugs in there.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Your subconscious is a thousand times more powerful than the conscious.
We call it the subconscious.
It's the connection of the universe.
It's not just the deeper mind.
jordan holmes
Midichlorians.
alex jones
When I come back from break, because I was going to do it this segment, and I'm just too shook up to do it again.
I'm going to try my best.
And again, I don't do this for dramatic stuff, folks.
This is so epic.
This is so real.
This is everything happening we knew was coming.
And I just, I have a huge feeling of sorrow, actually.
And that we're going to watch billions die.
And only when they're murdering people en masse and people are just dying everywhere will the sheeple finally wake up and then it'll be too late.
dan friesen
So there's something up here.
He's not saying what this thing is.
He's saying we'll get to it next segment.
I'm not positive that he does.
It's weird.
So billions are going to die.
But what you need to understand about that is that there is a bit of a timeline issue that we're not really clear on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Could be tomorrow.
Could be five years.
jordan holmes
Seems like it would take more time than tomorrow.
dan friesen
Could be five years.
jordan holmes
Could be five years.
alex jones
And it might be five years.
It might be ten years.
If everybody just collapses and submits, it might be six months.
But we're going to see the Antichrist.
They're going to be having sex with kids on TV.
Hell, they already are.
You're going to see the ocean die.
You're going to see nuclear war, billions dead.
I mean, it's happening.
God's real.
dan friesen
That last thought seems unconnected, but...
Oceans are gonna die.
jordan holmes
Your god sucks if he's real and oceans are gonna die.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that's probably just because of the devil and the globalist devils.
jordan holmes
I really don't think so.
I think it might be a lot of his doing.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex is talking about, like, there's a difference.
You know, you have your soul.
And then you have your flesh.
jordan holmes
No, you just have one spot in your brain, which is also part of your...
dan friesen
No.
You have your flesh and your soul.
jordan holmes
But isn't that kept in that one part of your brain that they're trying to get rid of?
dan friesen
Your soul is flesh, according to Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because if you can get a vaccine that ruins your soul, then it's a physical thing.
Who cares?
Yeah.
Alex believes that the flesh wants to side with Satan.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And I'll tell you, I have to fight my flesh.
My flesh.
Because the brain and the soul runs things, but the flesh then sees what's happening and says, oh yeah, I'm with that.
My flesh isn't saying submit to the New World Order.
You know, usually your flesh, if you're not in tune with God, it kind of wants to side with Satan.
No, no, my flesh is side with my spirit, but it's still cowardly.
It's like, get out of here.
Take your money and find a redoubt somewhere and dig in and just start farming and hoard food.
jordan holmes
God, get us out of here!
unidentified
Get us out of here!
dan friesen
Get us out of here!
alex jones
So my flesh is saying, get me out of here, get me out of here, get me out of here.
And my spirit's saying, oh, no, my friend, you're going to stand up to the dragon face to face.
And then there's an extreme feeling of guilt for my children and my family.
And God's like, hey, you decided to have them.
Get their spirit right.
Get them close to God, son.
Whoa.
unidentified
Uh, okay.
jordan holmes
Is he just an alcoholic?
Is that what he's describing?
dan friesen
I'm not positive.
jordan holmes
I'm going to stand up and face the dragon.
My flesh is trying to get me away from here.
dan friesen
You know what, though?
The thing that's interesting is he's presenting this dichotomy between his flesh and his spirit.
And his flesh is saying, run, run, find a redoubt, go to that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then his spirit is saying, no, you must stand up and fight the dragon.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's said explicitly multiple times that his plan is to go to a redoubt.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So it seems like his flesh has won.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
It's already over.
dan friesen
He's expressed the plan to follow the flesh.
jordan holmes
Well, did you not know he got the MMR vaccine when he was a kid?
His connection to the spirit world is lost.
dan friesen
That could be, man.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's a real sad thing.
jordan holmes
He's like the Avatar, man.
His connection to the spirit world is lost.
dan friesen
What a...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, right?
dan friesen
But Alex's flesh is evil.
He wants you to know that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
He wants you to know that.
jordan holmes
I mean, I already assumed that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
His spirit's evil, too, but his flesh, quite evil.
alex jones
Let me give you a little sick view, though.
My flesh is evil, though.
The flesh is over there like the devil on my left shoulder going, Ha ha, Jones, all these scum that love tyranny and love to submit, they're going to get torn limb from limb.
Oh, my God.
What they've done to babies will be done to them while they're conscious.
And so I've also got a...
And I know you're all going through this, too.
So I just described where I'm at because I know you're there, too.
jordan holmes
I am not.
alex jones
I don't know where you're into that evil of having fun with this.
Because, you know, I mean, I'm evil, folks.
I'm fallen, just like you are.
And, you know, I could actually enjoy all this.
In fact, I even could see the aspects of enjoying it.
dan friesen
We know.
alex jones
But coming out from God, though, is not something I want, so...
I'm just going to tell you this.
Everybody better get their big boy pants on.
Because you are facing, you're watching an interdimensional satanic invasion of this planet.
And it's been planned for thousands of years, and they're ready to take humanity down right before we go intergalactic, interdimensional.
And this isn't a science fiction movie.
It's not some Tom Cruise thing.
It's real.
dan friesen
So the Draco, maybe?
You talked to Carrie about this?
You've been consulting Captain Mark Richards?
jordan holmes
You know, I was thinking earlier that his view on how his flesh and spirit worked were eerily similar to Carrie being like, no, no, no, you can only get the virus if your will is broken and you can't fight it off with your own brain powers.
dan friesen
There's some similarities.
I mean, he's just pretty deeply into interdimensional attack happening.
It might as well be aliens.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex has this, you know, it's the end times.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Mark of the Beast.
dan friesen
And you have the Mark of the Beast being announced through this patent.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And Alex kind of is giving up.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
He makes it pretty clear in this next clip that I find very outside of the norm for his rhetoric that no one can beat this.
No one can beat his enemies.
jordan holmes
No one can beat this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
You better get on your knees.
You better get on your knees before the creator.
Because none of us, no matter how strong we are, how great our intellect are, we cannot beat this.
And when I tell you that, I got one finger pointed at you.
I got three more pointed back at me.
Because I am not happy right now.
People say, wouldn't you be happy?
You've been proven right.
You've been vindicated.
I've been vindicated?
What the hell does that mean?
I've been vindicated?
jordan holmes
Do you not understand the word?
alex jones
Vindicated when it's 2,000 year information?
God warned us?
God literally avatared down to this planet to prove that he's going to make us run this obstacle course?
He'd do it?
What do you think this all is?
This ain't a damn game, folks.
This is the real deal.
This isn't a simulation.
This is an entire solar system and the surrounding heavens built for this operation right now.
You don't think God creates new sentient beings with free will and then just...
Gives them the power of the universe right away.
God creates sentient beings, made the image of God with free will, and then dumps us in to this grid to decide what we're going to do.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that's just the, this world is a test kind of mentality, which is not very interesting to me.
But it is interesting that he's saying that no one can beat this.
Like, that's so outside of regular Infowars rhetoric.
It's so blustery, usually.
Like, fuck the devil!
We're the first ones to hit the barbed wire!
We're going to take you down!
You globalists are finished!
You know what?
Hey, you can't win!
jordan holmes
Yeah, it kind of seems like that means that people should stop funding the info war, right?
The only reason that you fund the info war is so he can fight for you, but now that he has admitted that he can't win...
dan friesen
I'd hope there was an idea that you were funding a winning side as opposed to buying Alex boats, but whatever.
jordan holmes
Turns out you're not.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess.
jordan holmes
You bought him an armored redoubt in the middle of nowhere, and your info war was lost because of God or whatever.
dan friesen
Because you bought so much My Patriot Supply, he got a really good deal on food to fill his bunker.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, great.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
But the reason that we can't win is because these are bully space demons that we're fighting against.
And Alex discusses how they operate.
alex jones
These are bad creatures.
That's why they're telling us we're not essential, we're ugly, we're bad for the Earth, we suck, we need to be gotten rid of, is because everywhere these entities go in creation, in the universe, they are thrown out on their asses.
jordan holmes
Where else have they gone?
alex jones
And so these are bullies that can't take on God, can't even comprehend God, and so they have to troll around in the universe.
dan friesen
That is a really great question that you ask, because it does imply that there are a ton of inhabited planets that these bully space demons have gone to.
Get out of here.
Get out of here, you bully space demons.
That is the piece that Alex does not unpack, but seems important.
jordan holmes
They troll around the universe going to other uninhabited...
dan friesen
The mercantile dog planet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
They've been kicked out of there.
Alright, okay.
Archaeological cats have been kicked off that planet.
alex jones
Looking for an egg.
And they come over to the egg.
I mean, the egg's armored.
It's protected by God.
jordan holmes
Giant space baby.
alex jones
And they're tapping on it.
They're hitting it.
And they go, wait a minute.
The egg can hear me, though.
If I can convince it to hate itself and decide it wants to die and open itself up to me, the egg can open up an area for it to get into.
jordan holmes
Like a virus.
alex jones
We're an egg.
The planet's an egg.
The whole thing's an egg.
dan friesen
It's all eggs.
alex jones
And it's all these little demons and twists.
And then trying to get in to tell us what to do.
dan friesen
So, that's what's going on.
We're an egg.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the demon space bullies are tapping on the egg.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go ahead and cross off 2001 A Space Odyssey.
I'm just going to go ahead and cross that one off and we officially have bingo.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm going to go with that one.
So earlier Alex said he has his flesh, his spirit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Spirit says fight the dragon.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Flesh says leave.
jordan holmes
Hide out.
Let's get shit-faced with the dragon.
dan friesen
And so Alex in this next clip really makes it clear that flesh is one.
alex jones
I have told everybody this.
And I have ignored my own prime directive, but I am leaving Austin as soon as possible, and I'm going to plant crops.
The spiritual nature of planting crops, the spiritual nature of your feet in the mud, the spiritual nature of having chickens, the nature of looking up at the stars at night is critical.
I'll still be able to drive into Austin and do it, but we have to now move from warning people about the Mark of the Beast to moving into the defensive posture and...
You know, they're going to come to your house and take you and your kids and cut your heads off.
But that's going to be all right.
Because you'll be with God instantly.
And I'm serious.
That's where we are now.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
So, we've done our work here.
We're going to keep broadcasting as long as possible.
But this is it.
This is the big takeover.
And so I would advise everyone to get your storable foods now.
jordan holmes
Wow!
alex jones
It's like five times the cost on average.
And that'll fund us to stay here in position as long as possible.
dan friesen
That is amazing.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Great point.
unidentified
Great question.
jordan holmes
Why would I get food?
dan friesen
For your own purposes, perhaps.
But in terms of wanting to get it so Alex can make money, it seems stupid.
I mean, when I heard that clip, the only thing I could think is like, wow, the info war is over.
You've lost the info war now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
There isn't anything else you can do.
Ah, we'll be on the air for a while.
Maybe we'll stick around.
If you give us some more money, we'll try to stick around.
There's nothing you can do.
The enemies can't be defeated.
Whatever.
I'm gonna go put my feet in the mud and fucking grow corn, hang out with some chickens.
jordan holmes
Based on his own reasoning, you're better off getting your head chopped off than buying storable food.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'd be right with God.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
No big deal.
Come to your house and cut your head off.
jordan holmes
Hey, you can buy my food or you can kill yourself.
You choose.
dan friesen
The other thing, too, that I kept thinking about when I was hearing that clip was that, like, back in 2017, I couldn't remember what episode it was on, but there was an episode where Alex was crying, talking about how he wished he was just a farmer.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The life he should be living is he should have made a bunch of money on the supplements and stuff.
And gotten out and just hide.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Just take a new life, quiet, away from everything.
There was no end to this that was good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If he could have just gotten out, then no one would have probably even considered...
I mean, he wouldn't have done all the things that are getting him sued now.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So those lawsuits wouldn't exist.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He could just have a really happy life with his chickens and crops.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he'd be doing all right.
dan friesen
He wouldn't need more than a couple million dollars probably to live out the rest of his life in some, like his parents have a ranch.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He could just live on that ranch.
jordan holmes
Well, he's going to need to.
dan friesen
Probably.
But that's a realistic thing that he could have done.
He fucked up.
Back then, he was crying about how he wished that's what he was going to do, and now it appears that the universe may have forced his hand.
And now he's going to do that, but it's going to also come along with a real public fall from grace.
There's going to be an extent to which he's going to have to take some hits.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's going to be ugly.
dan friesen
And whether that's the Sandy Hook lawsuit or some other thing, who knows?
But he knows that this is done.
This is pretty much over.
jordan holmes
There's too much coming down the pipeline.
dan friesen
But he still needs some money, and that's why you see that ad pivot.
And it's just second nature.
He can't stop himself.
jordan holmes
If he wasn't selling anything, he'd still do an ad pivot just to nothing.
Hey, and while we're here, just so you know...
Just go ahead and get your nothing anywhere you got it.
We got it in store for $49.99.
If you get it on auto ship, you get it for $45.99.
Again, it is nothing.
Don't worry about it.
Just give me $45.99.
dan friesen
So he's selling the food there, and that leads to selling the hand sanitizer that he's got.
And this is how it goes out to break.
I think it's really interesting.
alex jones
We've got a lot of other great products as well.
We have the new essential oil sanitizer, the only one out there of this type.
That has a great spray bottle as well in eucalyptus, peppermint, and, of course, lavender.
And I like more than just spraying it on my hands.
I love how it smells.
There's nothing like it.
It's selling out very, very quickly.
And your purchases keep us in attack formation, believe me, without you.
But you've already lost.
It's going to be spectacular, our destruction.
dan friesen
That's weird.
jordan holmes
Uh, man.
dan friesen
That's weird.
If you give us money, you know, keep us afloat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Boy, our destruction's gonna be spectacular.
jordan holmes
Well, now you're just buying fireworks.
The more money you give him, the more spectacular his destruction.
dan friesen
How big is this flame-out gonna be?
unidentified
Only you can decide by giving me more money.
dan friesen
That doesn't inspire confidence.
That feels pretty bad.
jordan holmes
Do you want a conflagration or just a nice little controlled burn?
dan friesen
Do you want this to end with a boom or a whisper?
Your choice.
jordan holmes
Your choice.
We're going to have voting.
We're going to do a Facebook poll.
We'll see how you guys do.
dan friesen
It costs one bottle of vaso beets to vote.
So this next clip, I don't really care about.
It's not really important, but I'm going to play it just for fun.
I think there's a demonstration I'd like to make.
alex jones
If you want to see what the modern Hitler looks like, folks, it's Jeff Zuckerberg and it's Oliver Darcy.
dan friesen
It's Jeff Zuckerberg!
Right.
Damn it.
Alex says stuff like that all the time, and I never play it.
I never play things like that because that would be stupid.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That would be a pointless thing.
I know he meant Mark Zuckerberg.
jordan holmes
Or Jeff Bezos.
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
Could be either one.
dan friesen
Right.
But people misspeak all the time.
unidentified
Absolutely.
It happens.
dan friesen
It's not like, hey, Alex, you're so stupid.
You don't even know it's Mark Zuckerberg.
But you know what?
There are people who do shit like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex would probably do something like that.
jordan holmes
How many times has he played that Nancy Pelosi clip where she misspeaks and he's like, ha ha, you can see that she's the devil and she's dying.
dan friesen
You see a lot of his employees doing gotchas like that.
It's like, what the fuck is going on?
I wanted to play this as a demonstration just to be like, I could do that too at any point.
And we don't.
Because it's pointless.
People misspeak.
Who gives a shit?
Anyway, this next clip, this is where things get real.
Alex may have tried to make some kind of social media website.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know what this is about, but apparently it failed.
And Alex starts talking about it for no reason, and then he gets really mad.
alex jones
You know, I created a website last week, and you guys print that off for me again out of the email.
I'll cover it right now if I actually get that.
And all I said to the crew was, I said, you know, instead of everybody always trying to use Twitter or Facebook, Could we create a website and get people's emails and communicate with them directly and just take it down to Simon Bill Wright?
And they literally, and I'm at the crew, we can't do it because we're habituated to Facebook and Twitter and Google.
And I had meetings this morning again, and I had meetings later, and people didn't even understand what I said.
They said, well, you promote the thing this Saturday.
And I said, yeah, I want to.
I want to promote the site we launched.
And so we're not doing it.
I'm not doing it.
It just can't happen.
It's all over, basically.
I'm not even being dramatic.
It's like, man, once they get you programmed, it's over, man.
unidentified
I mean, once they get you programmed, it is over.
Oh, God.
alex jones
God help us.
David Icke's coming up.
unidentified
Jesus!
alex jones
I just can't do it at this point.
Let's go ahead and go to this very important report.
You might want to share it.
I know it's not Facebook or Twitter, so it doesn't exist.
It doesn't even exist here.
But it's with the mark of the beast and all that's happening.
So let's play that clip.
Here it is.
dan friesen
Woo, Alex leaves again.
jordan holmes
That's sad.
dan friesen
It's like every day now.
At some point, you're like, I can't do the show.
Fuck this.
And he'll just play special reports.
I know that in the past, even outside of our little maybe last six-month time frame, there were occasional times when he would do that, but it was usually pretty extreme for him to leave the show.
It would be something like he has to go do an interview on another show.
There's some reason for it.
Or some tech problem or something.
It's every day now.
And it's only his feelings.
And his feelings are, tried to make a fucking social media thing.
It doesn't work.
No one wants it.
And fuck it.
The end is coming.
We're done.
Why would we launch this now?
We're done.
jordan holmes
That's a really good question.
dan friesen
All I keep hearing is just insistence and insinuations that, like, fuck it.
Fuck it.
There's no road left in front of this.
The wheels are off.
We're done.
We're basically...
It feels like he's wrapping up the show without actually saying it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It just feels...
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And even if he didn't...
I just don't...
I can't escape that.
The escalation towards revelation and doomsday, it's right in line with the way he's talking about his own business.
It's just...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he is existing through the end times, and I think he would prefer it if everyone else was too.
He's very disappointed that he seems to be the only person who's really getting end times right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, narcissists love it when other people feel their pain.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It makes them feel better.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex talks a little bit more here about his experience at the store this morning when he yelled at people.
alex jones
I certainly have gone into a whole new area in my life.
I went to the grocery store this morning and people were getting in my face about the mask.
And I got their faces about it.
And I'm not putting people down if they want a mask.
You're wearing your stupid mask.
You're protected, jackass.
dan friesen
Stupid mask.
You're selling them.
But also, this goes back to a real fundamental misunderstanding that applies even to his anti-vax stuff.
Like, wearing a mask isn't 100% to protect you from catching something as much as it is to protect other people in case you are already sick.
So it's the same thing with the vaccines.
A large part of what makes vaccines functional is it makes it so you can't give it to other people who are either immunocompromised or can't take vaccines for some reason.
It's more protective for other people, or at least that's a large part of the rationale for it.
And Alex just doesn't understand that.
jordan holmes
Ah, but it's the globalists who want you to protect other people, Dan.
Like we've seen, they want you to line up and sacrifice yourself for others.
So that means that helping other people is actually part of the globalist's plan.
dan friesen
You're saying that altruism is a plan of the bully space demons who go around and find eggs.
unidentified
Exactly!
jordan holmes
How else would they trick us?
dan friesen
Okay.
Fine.
So apparently Alex believes that the globalists are trying to take his kids.
alex jones
I've got filings in court right now.
I should have started the show with this.
To take my children from me.
It's in court.
I've got an answer to it this week.
Emergency filing to take my children from me because I went out in public and protested Saturday.
That's 2020.
That's April 20th.
That's where we are.
dan friesen
But that's not anything other than your ex-wife.
That's your ex-wife who filed that.
That wasn't the globalists.
There's no one trying to take your kids away other than...
They're a mother who's concerned for their well-being because you went to a fucking rally in the middle of a pandemic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you put your kids in danger.
dan friesen
In theory, yes.
The argument could be made pretty well that that was the case.
And we don't talk about the custody stuff on this show for a very specific reason as I have no idea what's going on on interpersonal levels and it's not our business.
But when Alex tries to present his plight being some sort of politically motivated thing as opposed to it being This is a dispute between you and your ex-wife.
Don't try and pretend that this is some Soros plan or Bill Gates trying to take you out.
It's cockamamie bullshit.
That is, again, the same sort of thing that I think runs through almost all of Alex's stuff.
The perception that he wants is this drastic political persecution and this massive fight against demonic...
Otherworldly forces and what have you.
And really, it's just ups and downs in his personal life.
jordan holmes
And he can never see himself as anything other than the champion and the good guy.
At no point in time could he ever for once have a moment of introspection and be like...
Oh, yeah.
So, you know, I mean, it is kind of reasonable to think that if I go out and share a space with a lot of other people who may be infected, then I'm putting my children at risk.
So my ex-wife very logically would say that I should not be anywhere near my children.
This makes perfect sense to me.
I made a mistake.
dan friesen
I don't know all the variables at play, but I just think on a very basic level, you do have a pretty decent argument that if someone is behaving in ways that are going to make them more likely to possibly catch this, that they don't...
They should be sequestered in some way.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
We should probably put some aluminum on top of his door and make sure that he's not a vampire.
That would be my suggestion.
dan friesen
What if he's a vampire?
jordan holmes
What if he's a vampire?
That's the only thing that makes sense to me at this point.
dan friesen
That's why he's got to isolate himself at that redoubt.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Because he doesn't want to feast on people.
jordan holmes
And his kids are filled with blood and he loves that shit.
Now he's in trouble.
dan friesen
Could be.
So Alex mentioned earlier that David Icke was coming up.
jordan holmes
Great.
Man.
Great.
dan friesen
This is bad news.
jordan holmes
That's what I want to hear.
I want to hear from David Icke.
dan friesen
This is bad news, man.
jordan holmes
This is really what I was looking forward to.
dan friesen
There's a lot of people who've had some pretty out-there theories about stuff.
Leave it to David Icke to try and outdo all of them.
david icke
The great thrust of that interview that was banned was not about 5G at all.
That was quite a small portion.
The great thrust was that the scam is so vast, there is no COVID-19.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, David Ica believes that there is no virus.
This is all made up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fake.
Fake virus.
jordan holmes
So what's he replacing the virus with?
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
I mean, why are people dying?
dan friesen
They aren't.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Ooh.
dan friesen
Or maybe it's just other things that are being called COVID-19, or maybe it's 5G.
I have no fucking idea.
jordan holmes
Don't even need to worry about it.
dan friesen
This is interesting, though, because Alex had always been trying to present it as David Icke was talking about 5G, and that's why this interview was banned.
But David Icke himself comes in and is like, no, fuck that.
It was because I said there's no virus, because there isn't.
And that's the point that he's making on this episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And what's interesting is that Alex...
Kind of agrees with them.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
alex jones
They're not debating that almost all the tests false identify regular coronavirus is it.
So whether you're totally right, it's all fake, or 80% is fake, I mean, they are certainly exaggerating the hell out of this.
dan friesen
So Alex is sort of coming around a little.
He's like, oh wait, David Icke is saying that there is no virus.
That's a thing you can say?
unidentified
Holy shit!
dan friesen
Alright.
Well, hold on.
There are these tests of false positives.
I could talk myself into this.
jordan holmes
You know what I didn't realize?
There is no spoon!
Did you realize that there's no spoon?
dan friesen
It takes almost no time at all for David Icke to convince Alex that there isn't any virus.
david icke
If you release a bio-weapon...
You can lose control of it very quickly.
And you can start, if it's really a bioweapon and really dangerous, then you are going to take out potentially a lot of people you don't want to take out that are working in your pyramids of manipulation.
Most of them are totally clueless what they're part of, but they are important people to what you are trying to do.
And you can lose control of it.
If you do it with a fake virus, the perception of one, and you do it by manipulating the figures and the tests, and I want to come to that test because it's a joke, then you can control through pure mathematics and fake testing.
As the numbers go up, and when the numbers go down, and when the second wave comes, as what they're planning, of course, you can control that.
unidentified
Exactly.
alex jones
It's got to be fake, so you can totally control it.
You just bingoed it right there.
That was fast.
dan friesen
That's pretty amazing.
jordan holmes
He put together a really good argument for why it's not a bioweapon.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Because it would be a bad idea to release a bioweapon.
dan friesen
I think we said that months ago.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So that's a good argument for why it's not a bioweapon.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
His next step, I think, is where he falls apart for me.
dan friesen
That's usually how it goes with David Icke.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, hey, TV's bad for you.
Too much of it can be here.
It's because there's lizards.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
Damn it, Icke!
dan friesen
Can't go along through there.
jordan holmes
The test is not a joke.
dan friesen
What's interesting to me about this is that for Alex to believe that this is a fake virus, he has to get rid of so much.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
The whole thing about the gain of function.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The whole thing about the UNC Chapel Hill.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The whole thing about Obama selling a virus to the Chinese.
jordan holmes
That was dumb.
dan friesen
All of it can't be true.
The virus is all fake.
It's just a perception of a virus.
jordan holmes
I like it.
I like this for him as a new direction to go in.
Because all of that shit was dumb.
dan friesen
Well, yes, that's true.
jordan holmes
It's incredibly stupid.
So why not just go even further?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Go harder, man.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's the difference between trying to construct a conspiracy narrative and just engaging in blind denialism.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because if you're just like, no.
You don't really have to prove anything.
He's contrarian as fuck.
Whereas Alex with his, like, no, actually, they made it in 2015 and Fauci threw Obama, sold it to the Chinese.
There's so many things you have to prove and you can't prove it because it's not true.
So why not just do it like this?
jordan holmes
It turns out it is especially not over for humanity and there will be way more than lone survivors, mainly because apparently the virus didn't even exist in the first place.
Man!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Mike Adams is a really bad health ranger.
I'm starting to think he doesn't know what he's talking about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is such a hallmark of Alex's shit, though.
This is why his show is stupid.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's because that is him agreeing with David Icke.
jordan holmes
Immediately.
dan friesen
Later, though, I'm sure by tomorrow, he'll be like, we're just discussing both sides.
jordan holmes
Of course.
I bring on many opposing viewpoints onto my show, and we have a good conversation, and we talk, and you know what?
Everybody I believe is very trustworthy, and sometimes they disagree with me, and sometimes I will agree with something that completely wipes out the past six months of my reporting.
dan friesen
I will largely agree with just about anything some crazy wingding says to me on my show.
Now, that being said...
People just come on with different opinions.
unidentified
And you know what?
dan friesen
Hey, sometimes they're in direct contradiction with things I have explicitly said I have proven.
And I'll still agree with them because they're crazy and it's fun.
jordan holmes
This is where I want the spirit of Bill Cooper to come in and just shit all over David Icke.
dan friesen
Be nice.
jordan holmes
Just go to fucking town on him.
dan friesen
He did not like David Icke as well.
That's for sure.
So the thing that's going on here is I hate to say this because I obviously can't prove this, but the sense that I get is a pay-to-play kind of situation.
I kind of feel like David Icke might be paying for airtime.
And Alex is profiting off this.
Because there is a trend that goes through the interview where Alex is just letting David Icke say all this stuff.
Chiming in very sporadically.
Not interrupting him all that much.
And then, after a couple segments, Alex is like, for my own selfish reasons, I want to talk about what I want to talk about.
This is one example of it.
david icke
What they don't want people to know...
Is there's no virus, because then the house of cards completely comes down.
And if I know that, then they know that, and therefore the jails, if not the hospitals, the jails should be full of these people if there's any justice.
alex jones
All right, David, we've just spent three, four segments, and you've had a lot of great points hitting your main topic.
What about...
400,000 signatures will pass the number they need at WhiteHouse.gov to investigate Bill and Melinda Gates.
dan friesen
I don't know if that proves anything, but there is a real feeling of like, all right, you've had your time now.
Now help me out with my shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
I could see that.
dan friesen
That could also just be an arrangement between the two of them because like, hey, what's going to work best for both of us?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's very weird.
There's a dynamic at play that is not organic and is not normal.
And I think that might be a part of why Alex is so happy to be like, that makes total sense.
alex jones
You're right.
dan friesen
There is no virus.
You have to have a fake virus if you want to control it.
It's because he's basically in an agreement of some sort to platform David Icke's ideas.
And not shit on them and be like, no, I have proven that this is a real virus and it is a frankenvirus.
jordan holmes
Yep.
With HIV parts inside of it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's been proven.
jordan holmes
It's been literally proven.
He said many, many times.
dan friesen
If it's been proven, you can't be swayed by David Icke saying it's fake.
jordan holmes
You can't because it's been proven.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, obviously the proving is fake, but Alex shouldn't believe that.
jordan holmes
I could also see just Alex not giving a shit at all.
If he's willing to walk off his show and just be like, fuck off, do a special video, I could see him taking this opportunity to be like, one, I got my sandwich ready, and two, I don't have to work right now.
I'll just chime in and be like, yeah, that sounds right, David.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
jordan holmes
Delicious image.
dan friesen
There's a hundred possible explanations.
Yeah.
Any of them could be right.
And the only reason that comes to mind for me is that, like, this is exactly how it would play out if it was, like, brokered programming.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
That is exactly how it would go.
Just, like, whatever the fuck.
I don't care.
Say whatever you want to say.
We'll bandy these ideas about, and then you'll help me with my shit.
jordan holmes
Does Ike sell anything of his own?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm sure he sells a ton of shit.
jordan holmes
No, I mean on the show.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
See, that would make me...
dan friesen
But David Ike is also, like, he's...
Much more established and fine than Alex.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
He's not being sued by everybody.
I'm sure that he would more like to get out the there is no virus narrative.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Cause a stir, get more attention, more eyes to himself.
Right, right, right, right.
But Alex needs to use him as best he can, and so he does.
alex jones
And I'll tell you again, listeners, we run a major operation against the globalists.
They can't stand the fact that we're here bringing you guests like David Icke.
jordan holmes
But they've already won.
alex jones
They want to use food to control you.
We have high-quality, horrible food back in stock.
Nobody else does at these prices.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, I mean, David Icke said they're going to use food to control you, but you can take the control back by buying my food.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
dan friesen
I mean, that's how it goes.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The main thing, like David Icke's interviews are always so goddamn boring and meandering, and he just says the same sort of stuff over and over again with weird swallowing noises and stuff.
unidentified
It's awful.
dan friesen
But the big thing is there is no virus.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That is his thesis for this.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
which makes it troubling to hear this.
unidentified
They call me the speaker.
I've been searching over high.
alex jones
And you won't get what you're after until you break with the mainstream cult.
You won't get what you're after until you tune in to David Ike with Alex Jones.
We're calling this the best David Icke interview ever.
That's what the crew's calling it.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
You don't even have spirit behind that shit.
No.
They're calling this the best interview ever.
My crew is just trying to make me happier.
dan friesen
If the crew thinks that, they are like, this is a better way to go.
unidentified
Just deny the virus.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think some of the people on the staff might be at a point where they realize, like, We're in over our head.
We're underwater on this virus narrative.
We have really gone all over the place and not found respite.
And maybe, David Icke's There Is No Virus narrative is the simplest solution.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does seem like the path of least resistance.
dan friesen
It would have been.
But the problem now is explaining away the old narratives.
If you now shift to there is no virus, you have to explain why you were wrong when you proved that there was and Obama sold it to China in 2015.
jordan holmes
Sure.
No, you and I would.
dan friesen
Wow, that's a good point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I hate that.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's real frustrating.
jordan holmes
It's the worst.
dan friesen
So this is the thing that I find the most interesting on this entire episode.
Like, sure, Alex reporting on patent 666 or whatever is fine.
That's whatever.
But it's a little bit...
Boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I find it fascinating that David Icke is allowed to come on his show and say there is no virus, and he agrees with him and is convinced.
Even if it is sort of conditional convinced, I'm like, hey, you know, maybe he's right.
Because he does, after that clip I played where he's convinced by David Icke, he does walk back a little bit.
But even, like, you can't, if you believe anything that you're saying, you can't even conditionally agree with him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know things.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You don't think things.
You know things.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Here's...
No, I got this.
I got this easily for you.
Okay?
There is a virus.
But it was not released.
So all of the proof about them selling the virus and all of that stuff, that's all true.
However, they just have the virus and they never actually released the virus.
Only because they have the virus, they can say they released the virus to create the panic.
And then if anybody asks, they'll be like, look, I've got the virus right here.
I know it's real.
Done.
Figured it out.
There is no virus, Dan.
I've even proven that to me.
I agree with there being no virus now.
dan friesen
Alex, run with that.
Jordan has just done the work for you.
jordan holmes
And it took a long time.
dan friesen
So the other thing beyond that is just this sense of doom.
Alex saying that there is no way to win.
We can't win.
This is fucked.
I'm going to the woods.
Fuck it.
I mean, that's how the show ends, too.
That's how the segment ends.
alex jones
All right, folks, we're out of time.
Gerald Salente is coming up.
Hopefully his connection is ready.
I won't be here on air if you don't buy the products, the great products I already need.
They are hunting me down, which is an experience in victory itself.
I'm not afraid of it.
And as soon as I'm supposed to be out of the game, it's going to happen.
But you need products anyway.
These are great products.
If you don't buy the products, I'm out of the game.
In fact, I thought we had extra capital for the year and, like, beaten some of the attacks, but it just didn't.
It's just, I need you to fund us right now and pray for us to spread the word.
If you believe what we're doing.
Plus, you can eat adorable food.
Get it right now.
Drills Monday takes over in just a few minutes.
Stay with us.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's not good.
dan friesen
No.
That almost has this feeling of, like, buy this stuff.
We're done anyway.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I thought we had money to make it the rest of the year.
jordan holmes
We don't.
We don't.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I mean, we talked about the bankruptcy case on our last episode, and I'm 50-50 on thinking that's it, but this is a real imminent doom feeling.
I really don't think that he would be feeling...
I don't think he'd be acting like this if it were just a situation with this abstract November or whatever, end of the year court date for the Sandy Hook stuff.
I don't think he'd be acting like this.
If it was these warnings that he's gotten from the FDA and the New York Attorney General, because those things are things that he can resolve.
He can change his actions and cooperate with the process and continue without any consequences.
There's something like this sort of Damocles that's hanging over his head.
And I can't tell how much of this is me talking myself into believing that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good question.
It definitely feels like he's fucked.
And he knows he's fucked.
And it's not like in the past where he's doing this and then he'll just bounce back the next day.
This seems like he's already resigned himself.
To the point where he's saying, it doesn't matter if you buy my food.
We're all going to die anyways.
dan friesen
There is no way to win.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So if he's not even selling...
Then I think we all know that that means it's over.
Right?
dan friesen
I mean, he's still selling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but listen to him sell.
That's not him selling.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
I know that he was in studio on Tuesday, on the 21st.
I know that.
So we will still have some thread to follow for the end of the week.
But I don't know, man.
I'm excited.
jordan holmes
It's fun that he's gone from Al Pacino to Jack Lemmon in like four months.
dan friesen
Or Al Pacino in a different movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a roller coaster.
But we'll see what happens.
I mean, I'm curious to see if on Tuesday...
jordan holmes
Gotta get those leads.
dan friesen
He still thinks that the virus is fake.
I have no idea.
We'll see.
jordan holmes
That'll be interesting.
dan friesen
So we'll be back on Friday with another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
You bet.
We're also on...
Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you'd like to download the show, go to iTunes, the rate, leave a review, Patreon page, and if you'd like, please donate to a local charity of your choice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am a bully space demon.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
dan friesen
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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