Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how things are on the Alex Jones Show the day after a couple of his employees were suspended from Twitter for trying to promote a rally in the middle of a pandemic. In this installment, Alex spends most of the show building narratives about a specific science fact-checker he's mad at, and the show ends with some very good comedy bits.
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Dan and George. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot is something that'll be a bright spot for you to hear, perhaps. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I've been dabbling around to listen to some music that I haven't heard in a long time. | ||
| So I was listening to some Annie Lennox. | ||
| Love Annie Lennox. | ||
| I'm a big fan of Annie Lennox. | ||
| But then I just, I don't know why, but I listened to the Dune soundtrack. | ||
| It's good atmospheric music. | ||
| I enjoy the Dune soundtrack from the 1984 David Lynch film. | ||
| Do they have any quotes in that one? | ||
| Yeah, there's some... | ||
| There's some talking? | ||
| There's a little bit. | ||
| Not a ton, but a little bit. | ||
| There's a little bit of dialogue. | ||
| Now, I'm asking you this question. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Do you know who did the soundtrack to Dune, the 1984 movie? | ||
| Was it Trent Reznor? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| 1984? | ||
| No, I'm fucking kidding. | ||
| God damn it, man. | ||
| One entity you would expect. | ||
| Brian Wilson. | ||
| It's a Brian. | ||
| It's a Brian? | ||
| Brian Davies. | ||
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No. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Eno. | ||
| Oh, it's Brian Eno. | ||
| That's the one you'd expect. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But you know who else did it? | ||
| Toto. | ||
| The band Toto. | ||
| Now see, that's the David Lynch I'm looking for. | ||
| If he's going to make Dune, Toto's going to do the soundtrack. | ||
| The guys who brought you Rosanna and Hold the Line bring you the Dune soundtrack. | ||
| What is closer to Africa than Dune? | ||
| I think that's the only thing that makes sense. | ||
| Anyway, I listened to the Dune soundtrack. | ||
| That was fun. | ||
| Watch the movie Dune. | ||
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It's good stuff. | |
| I don't have time. | ||
| Sting's performance is legendarily quiet. | ||
| I don't have time. | ||
| Don't have time to read the book. | ||
| Don't have time for the movie. | ||
| Plenty of time for the soundtrack. | ||
| Fair enough, fair enough. | ||
| Toto! | ||
| What about you? | ||
| I just did Truth Wanted with Daniel Earls at ObjectivelyDan on Twitter. | ||
| It was a great time. | ||
| It was a fun call-in show. | ||
| I think there's a podcast version of it you can download. | ||
| It was great and a huge thank you to Dan for inviting me on. | ||
| So for anybody who wants more Jordan, go check that out. | ||
| And I do work exclusively with dance. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's the only rule I have now. | ||
| If you are a Dan, I will come on your show. | ||
| You'll travel back in time and do some MTV remotes with Dan Cortez. | ||
| That's my plan. | ||
| MTV Sports. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Out of dance. | ||
| Dan Rather? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'll do interviews with Dan Rather. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now we are officially out of dance. | ||
| There's no more dance. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode to go over. | ||
| We're doing a little look at the present day still. | ||
| We've got April 17th, 2020. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| This is 2020. | ||
| And we'll get down to that in just one moment. | ||
| But before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| So first, Jeff, thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
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| Thank you, Brian Eno. | ||
| Maker of the Dune soundtrack. | ||
| Along with Toto. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Next, Andy in Kansas. | ||
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| You are now a technocrat. | ||
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| You are now a technocrat. | ||
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| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare... | ||
| Infowar on you! | ||
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| Yes, thank you very much to the both of you. | ||
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| We would appreciate that. | ||
| Or, if you'd like, please feel free to take that energy and direct it to a local charity in your area that's helping people who are affected by the current trouble. | ||
| Yes, we would appreciate either. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Very much. | ||
| So, Jordan, like I said, April 17th. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's going down. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It is going down. | ||
| What's going down? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The world? | ||
| Alex is just on some bullshit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So the day before this, on Thursday, it came out that a bunch of InfoWars employees got kicked off Twitter. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And by a bunch, I mean Rob Dew and Owen Troyer. | ||
| Everybody but David Knight. | ||
| Right, and Paul Joseph Watson is still on there. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson is still on there. | ||
| And there's an actual very clear reason for who got kicked off and who didn't. | ||
| It's not about getting rid of... | ||
| It has to do with the fact that the two of them, Rob and Owen, were actively promoting this protest against the quarantine or the social distancing measures. | ||
| And it's not the fact that they actually did the protest. | ||
| It was that they were using Twitter to spread promotion of it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so they ended up getting kicked off. | ||
| And so I figured, hey, if that happened on the 16th, the 17th, Alex is probably going to be in a pretty fucked up mood. | ||
| He just had some tendrils chopped off. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Little tentacles of getting his word out. | ||
| And so, you know, it is about what you'd expect. | ||
| And then it's also not what you'd expect. | ||
| And then also it's pretty fucked up. | ||
| So let's jump in. | ||
| Here's the first clip Alex is talking about. | ||
| You know, of course, because these people who work for him were kicked off social media, obviously there's going to be some social media grievances on this episode. | ||
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Of course! | |
| There have been draconian developments undreamed of just six months ago that have unfolded. | ||
| Kerry could disagree with you. | ||
| Twitter, Facebook, and Google are now announcing that they're even going to block members of the Congress. | ||
| When they say that the coronavirus came out of the Wuhan lab, they are openly announcing that. | ||
| I've got all the articles right here. | ||
| So I have a strong suspicion that he's starting off this way so he can complain about Owen and Rob getting kicked off Twitter, but he can couch it in this language of universal censorship. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's the way that he can get away with throwing a little titty baby tantrum while pretending that he's mad about something other than his employees just losing their social media account and their ability to market on Twitter. | ||
| It's not because of Rob Dew and Owen Schreier. | ||
| That would be petty, Dan. | ||
| That would be petty. | ||
| This is draconian. | ||
| They're censoring congresspeople. | ||
| The people he respects, I guess? | ||
| A couple of them. | ||
| Jim Jordan? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Owen and Robert Barnes have both gone on record and said they have no idea why Owen's account was suspended, but it's super clear. | ||
| Like I said, in the days prior to the suspension, Owen had been promoting his You Can't Close America rally, which took place over this weekend. | ||
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Sure. | |
| According to reporting on Media Matters, Twitter had announced on March 18th that they were not allowing... | ||
| And if you think about it for any time at all, Owen using his account to promote a giant rally in the middle of an active pandemic is basically as clear an example of that as you can come up with. | ||
| Now, will Twitter apply this logic to Trump? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| But even if their enforcement is less than ideal, it's pretty indisputable that Owen was acting in ways that are directly counter to the rules that had been established by Twitter. | ||
| They took action and he was suspended. | ||
| The same is true, most likely, of Do's account. | ||
| And like I said, it's probably why David Knight and Paul Joseph Watson's accounts are still up, because they weren't explicitly engaging in behavior that would directly lead to people putting themselves and the community at risk. | ||
| I have no idea what Congress members Alex is talking about, since I can't find any stories about this, even on his completely unnavigatable website. | ||
| But I would assume that it's just a situation where they're subject to the rules of the platform as well as anybody else. | ||
| I have zero faith in Twitter's commitment to upholding these rules, and considering that Trump literally tweeted out multiple exhortations for various states with Democratic governors to be, quote, liberated, it's pretty clear that the problem is far past the point where any social media company can even handle it now. | ||
| It's super clear what the message of those liberate tweets are, but according to NBC News, a spokesperson for Twitter said, quote, the use of liberate in the tweets is too vague to be actionable. | ||
| When the president of the country is on social media saying, liberate Minnesota and liberate Michigan and, quote, liberate Virginia and save your great Second Amendment, it's under siege. | ||
| if your rules consider those statements to be too vague to be actionable, then your rules are meaningless and really just sound more like a cop-out than anything else. | ||
| Of course, kicking Trump off Twitter wouldn't be good either and would ultimately likely lead to a far more severe backlash particularly in an election year. | ||
| There's essentially no good answer here, and the people in a position to actually make a decision like to say that there's no reason they would ever suspend Trump or to apply the rules to him refuse to because of the fear of the outcome. | ||
| Whenever Alex wants to complain about his own personal problems, whenever he does that, he has a tendency to externalize them and exaggerate. | ||
| When he got his DUI, one of his first responses was to put on his Jonathan Swift hat and suggest that all restaurants should be closed because if you have one drink, you'll get a DUI and that everyone's just getting jammed up. | ||
| It was a massive societal issue that he was upset about, not the fact that he drank and drove and spent the night in jail. | ||
| This is the same thing. | ||
| His employees got punished on social media, and Alex knows that having the lead stories like that, like, hey, my employees got kicked off Twitter, that sounds weak and petulant. | ||
| So you reframe it as a story, you know, it's not about your personal interests. | ||
| It's about the world. | ||
| That way you can portray yourself as a champion and not a weak loser. | ||
| It's bigger than me. | ||
| I mean, sure, maybe I'm talking about this because it personally affected me, and if it hadn't personally affected me, I wouldn't give a shit about that. | ||
| But this is me! | ||
| I'm the butt of the spear, Dan! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this goes way out of control. | ||
| I mean, it starts with this externalizing and exaggerating of his employees being suspended, their accounts suspended. | ||
| But this turns into a massive narrative on this show about who's doing the censoring. | ||
| Who's Rob doing the censoring? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They're running national news pieces in Europe, the UK, Australia and Canada telling children, do not trust your parents. | ||
| Watch them carefully and report them if they say China is behind the virus. | ||
| That's just good advice. | ||
| The fact-checking group that runs it is run out of Wuhan. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| At the bioweapons lab. | ||
| I'm going to say that again. | ||
| The fact checker that runs the science group for Facebook that's being used by the other sites works at the level four bioweapon lab and is number two in command. | ||
| So that's not true. | ||
| No. | ||
| Do most bioweapon labs have like a social media division there or a fact-checking division to make sure that... | ||
| We need to really do a better job as best we can of pushing back just on the framing and the language. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like him calling it a bioweapon lab we just put up with and just like, whatever. | ||
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Sure. | |
| We just move along. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Honestly, that in itself is terrible. | ||
| It's a really bad idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So leaving that aside, this is all bullshit. | ||
| The real story is that there's apparently someone who works for one of the groups that Facebook uses for fact checking. | ||
| This person goes by the name of Dr. Danielle Anderson. | ||
| She's an assistant professor with many published articles on the field of virology and infectious diseases. | ||
| She's a professor at Duke NUS Medical School, which is a collaboration between Duke and the National University of Singapore. | ||
| And it's a very legitimate and accredited school. | ||
| In her time in the field of virology, she's done some collaborative projects with the researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and the right-wing media is spinning this into the Wuhan lab running the fact-checking about the virus, which just isn't accurate at all. | ||
| Wow, they are really scraping the bottle of the barrel with that one. | ||
| Really going for it. | ||
| Really not giving a fuck anymore. | ||
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Nope. | |
| So Anderson was an expert who was consulted by an organization called Health Feedback. | ||
| Which is not owned by Facebook. | ||
| It appears they're an independent, non-political entity that fact-checks medical claims, and then many of the outlets end up using their work as a source because it's solidly produced. | ||
| Health Feedback is one wing of a group called Science Feedback. | ||
| They also have climate feedback. | ||
| Various science-oriented accuracy organizations. | ||
| Hey, we're scientists. | ||
| Knock this shit off. | ||
| Their website includes a section that lists all their donors from $5 donations up to $5,000 plus and lists all the grants they've received. | ||
| As far as things like this go, I've rarely seen this level of transparency from anything else I've looked at. | ||
| I'm assuming there's tons of Koch Brothers funding. | ||
| I imagine that Mark Moreno works for them from time to time. | ||
| They really have a... | ||
| What now? | ||
| Absent from that page. | ||
| There's also no Soros or G money to be found. | ||
| That's odd. | ||
| In terms of this relationship with Facebook, that's where things get a little bit complicated. | ||
| In April 2019, Science Feedback was approved as one of the entities that helps with Facebook's fact-checking. | ||
| But it wasn't approved by Facebook. | ||
| Facebook has a pre-existing relationship with a group called Pointer's International Fact-Checking Network. | ||
| Pointer is the group that approves the fact-checking entities, which then help fact-check stuff on Facebook. | ||
| If I had to guess, I would say this arrangement exists so Facebook can duck as much responsibility as possible for what happens on its platform, which is kind of lame. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So the reality is that there was an expert in virology and infectious disease who teaches at a university in Singapore who has worked at the Wuhan lab in the past. | ||
| She was consulted by Health Feedback for a fact check on some claims that were made about the lab in Wuhan. | ||
| This story is now being changed by Alex into a situation where the fact-checking is being run out of the Wuhan lab, which you can easily see is a complete lie. | ||
| Man. | ||
| If Dr. Anderson were trying to obscure or hide her association with the lab in Wuhan, then you could... | ||
| Probably make a pretty decent argument for some kind of conflict of interest, maybe. | ||
| And it might come off as a bit unethical to use her as a reference. | ||
| But as it stands, she's completely open about her working at that lab periodically on some projects. | ||
| In the very article when she's consulted as an expert. | ||
| Which kind of gives more credence to her. | ||
| Like, that's why you would go to her. | ||
| Because she's actually... | ||
| Fucking been there, or been in relationship to there. | ||
| I don't know if that's why you would go to her, but it certainly is part of her feedback. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| She brings it up herself. | ||
| Personal experience. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's no indication that she runs it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Any of that stuff. | ||
| It's just choose someone who is consulted by these people for a fact check. | ||
| Then that's how you know it's true. | ||
| That's how you know it's true. | ||
| This will take over as Alex's number one narrative. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| On this episode. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| But there's some things that he gets lost along the way. | ||
| Gets a little sidetracked on. | ||
| Because you see, 1984 for these guys is a owner's manual. | ||
| It's an operations plan. | ||
| That's why Hillary Clinton said famously in the mid-90s when she was co-president, she said, my favorite books in 1984, I see it as a manual. | ||
| People said, what does she mean by that? | ||
| Well, she's called hiking her skirt and urinating directly into your face. | ||
| For how much? | ||
| Yeah, let's put that article back up on screen for folks. | ||
| So before I get to the point here, I should say that what you just heard there was Alex making a real big show out of drinking from a paper cup and swirling the ice around. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Which is not exactly what I would call in character for him. | ||
| I've seen him take swigs out of things from his coffee mug, and sometimes he'll have a bottle of Topo Chico on hand, but this is very showy. | ||
| It's almost taunting, and it worries me a little bit. | ||
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Oh boy. | |
| No idea if that's booze. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| But if it is, we're three minutes into the episode at this point. | ||
| That would spell trouble. | ||
| Yeah, that's called the beginning of the workday, and it's when you take your first drink, Dan. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| I'm not convinced, necessarily, from the way this episode goes, that he was drinking. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| It's possible, but I'm not sold 100% on it. | ||
| He does get real weird by the end of the episode, but it's not definitive in the same way that so many of these other films have been. | ||
| So, as to that clip, first of all, Hillary was not co-president. | ||
| That's just nonsense. | ||
| Second, Alex isn't talking about comments Hillary made back in the 90s, and she didn't say 1984 was a how-to manual. | ||
| That's just a stupid headline that fringe conservative blogs ran with when discussing an excerpt from her 2017 book titled, What Happened? | ||
| In the book, she writes, Our leaders, the press, experts who seek to guide public policy based on evidence ourselves. | ||
| For Trump, as with so much he does, it's about simple dominance. | ||
| Alex is making up a Hillary quote, and here's the fun part. | ||
| I know exactly where it comes from. | ||
| There was an article in 2017 about this passage from Hillary's book on the website Conservative Review, and the headline is, quote, Hillary Clinton thinks Orwell's 1984 is a how-to manual. | ||
| I really don't get where they saw that in the quote. | ||
| No, it's not in that quote. | ||
| And that's where Alex got the idea from. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In the article, if you actually read it, it doesn't include any quotes for saying that. | ||
| It's just the insinuation of the author of this blog post. | ||
| His gripe is that he feels that Hillary got the wrong message from 1984 and that her point was to encourage blind trust in the government and media. | ||
| I think that's a little bit of an unfair reading from the text, particularly considering the last thing in her list of people we need to rely on are ourselves, but whatever. | ||
| I'm not going to spend my time discussing this article in any way past saying that this headline is absolutely where Alex is taking his imaginary Hillary quote from. | ||
| He has either not read this article at all, or he's willfully lying about it. | ||
| One of the two. | ||
| You know, what is interesting is that, in a sense, I agree with the sentence, 1984 is a how-to manual. | ||
| I just think Trump is using it, not the other guys. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think saying 1984 is a how-to manual could be, in some context, a value-neutral statement. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| In the same way as looking historically saying George Washington was a terrorist. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That is not to say that George Washington was an evil terrorist. | ||
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Right. | |
| Or whatever. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I don't want to unpack that right now. | ||
| Let's just go with Jedi. | ||
| Jedi aren't the bad terrorists in this one. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There are ways that you can say something like 1984 is a how-to manual without endorsing that. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| So that's all fine. | ||
| That's all good and well. | ||
| Even if Hillary had said something like that. | ||
| Which she didn't. | ||
| It's just a fucking conservative review blog post headline. | ||
| Are conservatives allowed to review books? | ||
| Don't they have to not read them in order to maintain their strength? | ||
| Isn't it like Samson? | ||
| Like, if they read a book, then they lose their power. | ||
| They can only read Ayn Rand. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And if you're weird, Skousen. | ||
| Unintended consequences, yeah. | ||
| You can read Skousen if you're weird. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So Alex believes that the AP has reported that the virus came from the Wuhan lab. | ||
| Which they did not. | ||
| And that Danielle Anderson... | ||
| Working from the Wuhan lab is banning stories from the AP that demonstrate it's a whole mess. | ||
| But that's how Alex gets around forming this narrative. | ||
| The Associated Press reported two days ago, knew the virus came from the Wuhan lab, knew it was weaponized, knew it was spreading, and they covered it up and then told Trump, don't block flights from China, you're a xenophobe. | ||
| That's the Associated Press. | ||
| But Facebook has announced AP will not be allowed to be shared on its platform, and anyone sharing the article will be banned. | ||
| I'm going to show you those articles here in a moment. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| Again, this is just Alex misreporting the same AP story that suggested that the Chinese government knew that the virus was more serious as a situation than they admitted publicly for six days between January 14th and January 20th. | ||
| The rest of the stuff relating to the Wuhan lab is just stuff Alex read in a Fox News headline, and he's trying to disguise it as an AP story, because even he knows that AP stories are far more credible than Fox News posts citing anonymous sources that are full of caveats like, none of this is certain. | ||
| Alex wants the audience to think that the mainstream media is reporting on the same stuff he's covering, because he knows that even among the most strident conspiracy theorists, there's a recognition that real journalists do different work than people like Alex. | ||
| If Alex says something, maybe you'll believe it. | ||
| But if the AP reports something, then you know they can back it up. | ||
| This is the fascinating dichotomy in the paranoid conspiracy world. | ||
| They hate the mainstream media and yet constantly appeal to it to give themselves credibility when they think they can. | ||
| Alex further wants the audience to think that this totally legit outlet is reporting this news and censorship has gotten so out of control that if you even post this AP story, you'll get banned. | ||
| This is the primary function of rewriting his own bans from social media platforms, because saying that they only kicked him off because they knew he was right about all this stuff, and even now the AP is saying it. | ||
| You know, that kind of thing. | ||
| None of this is real. | ||
| It's all just the ramblings of a liar circling the drain, desperately flailing for anything to grab onto in hopes of saving the ship. | ||
| It ain't gonna work. | ||
| Yeah, media outlets that rely entirely upon expediency are not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| No! | ||
| But, you know what's really funny? | ||
| Like, all this stuff is such bullshit. | ||
| It's all tremendous trash. | ||
| But Alex is so cocky about it. | ||
| That's the kind of thing I really love. | ||
| Like, he really is acting like... | ||
| He's got his chest puffed out. | ||
| I fucking nailed it. | ||
| God damn it, these people. | ||
| Guess who runs Facebook's science division, runs it, and decides what you can say about zinc, vitamin D. Hydroxychloroquine. | ||
| Who says on Facebook that the president's a liar and there's no hope? | ||
| Only Bill Gates can save you. | ||
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Only Bill Gates can save you. | |
| One of the top scientists at the Wuhan Bioweapons Lab! | ||
| Wow! | ||
| You can't make this up! | ||
| Real cocky. | ||
| Name... | ||
| Two scientists at the Wuhan lab. | ||
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How would you know if she's one of the top scientists? | |
| I would need further information on that. | ||
| It looks like I forgot to cut out this clip, but Alex is also claiming one of his other big pieces of evidence is that the co-discoverer of HIV has come out and said that Alex is using headlines to say that he's saying this was definitely 100% made in a lab. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And that's not, like, super accurate either. | ||
| Even close to, yeah. | ||
| Well, no, I mean, it is kind of true. | ||
| It's about a guy named Luc Montagenier, who is the co-discoverer of HIV, and he won a Nobel Prize in 2008. | ||
| He came out in an interview and basically said that if there were HIV pieces inserted into the RNA of the virus... | ||
| Then that would not have evolved naturally, and it would require lab engineering. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This is all good and well, but as far as I can tell, no one has in any way demonstrated that there are HIV pieces that have been inserted into the coronavirus. | ||
| The only reference people can make on that is that unpeer-reviewed and retracted Indian study, which was shown to be seriously flawed. | ||
| A follow-up paper published in February 2020 in the journal Emerging Microbes and Infections looked at these inserts that were said to be HIV and found, quote, all results demonstrated no evidence that the sequences of these four inserts are HIV-1 specific, nor the 2019 novel coronavirus viruses obtained these insertions from HIV-1. | ||
| First, the results of the blast search of these motifs against GenBank shows that the top 100 identical or highly homologous hits are all from host genes of mammalian, insects, bacterial, and others. | ||
| They found that these four inserts that are said in the Indian study to be HIV-related have a ton of other non-HIV sources. | ||
| Further, they found that these insertions are also present in multiple other coronaviruses. | ||
| So the conclusions reached by that Indian paper were definitely hasty, at least. | ||
| So basically what you have there is Dr. Montagier making an if-then statement. | ||
| If the virus has HIV sewn into it, then it must have been done in a lab. | ||
| That statement's probably fine, but I dispute the if portion of it. | ||
| In logic, when you have an if-then statement and the premise is false, you can completely ignore the conclusion. | ||
| It legitimately doesn't matter what the conclusion is because there's no truth to preserve through the process of inference. | ||
| Also, this dude is theorizing that the lab in Wuhan was working on an HIV vaccine, and this leaked out, which is not really in line with Alex's bioweapon narratives, but whatever. | ||
| Alex will run with whatever he can to give the appearance of credibility to this dumb shit. | ||
| Also... | ||
| I don't think that Alex should be able to use these guys, like this guy who co-discovered HIV is some kind of by-proxy expert, seeing as he doesn't believe HIV is real, nor does he believe it's connected to AIDS. | ||
| So he kind of has to believe that Luc Montagier has to be in on the conspiracy, right? | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And that's how you know he's telling the truth, because he's lying to us. | ||
| You can't have it both ways, but Alex really wants to. | ||
| You can't trust this guy and John Rapoport. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| You can't have it both ways. | ||
| I can't have it both ways. | ||
| The right-wing exists outside of both ways. | ||
| They have it all ways. | ||
| All they do is hold us hostage with their lies. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah, it's all a bunch of nonsense. | ||
| Anyway, sorry I forgot to cut that clip, but I feel like it's important to point that out a little bit. | ||
| So, not only is this person who heads up the Wuhan lab fact-checking Facebook... | ||
| Dr. Anderson. | ||
| Man, Facebook has really... | ||
| I gotta say, their staff might be a problem. | ||
| The things that Alex is saying is true. | ||
| You know who the Stasi are, folks? | ||
| They're the East German police that were worse than the KGB and NKBD. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They've hired over 10,000 of them to Facebook. | ||
| What? | ||
| We first reported on it six years ago when it started. | ||
| So, that's wild. | ||
| So there's a bunch of 80-year-old dudes who are 10,000 80-year-old dudes working for Facebook? | ||
| They run it. | ||
| So just to be clear, most of the people who would be the right age to have been in a Stasi are dead or are pretty old. | ||
| I would imagine you'd be hard-pressed to find 10,000 Stasi members still alive today, let alone 10,000 of them who are in the kind of shape you need to be in to run a modern tech company. | ||
| Leaving aside how insanely stupid... | ||
| I don't understand this keyboard. | ||
| What is this doing? | ||
| It's out of here! | ||
| Leaving aside how stupid that is, it's based on what you might call a kernel of something real. | ||
| In 2015, the Justice Ministry in Germany established a task force to look into online hate speech, particularly directed towards immigrants. | ||
| The goal was to get a sense of the scale of the problem, which they would then use to encourage Facebook and Twitter to take the matter seriously. | ||
| One of the groups that was included in this NGO, and this was an NGO called the Amadou Antonio Foundation. | ||
| Named in memory of an Angolan immigrant killed by neo-Nazis briefly after the reunification of Germany. | ||
| The group's chairwoman is Annette Kahane. | ||
| When she was a college student, for a time, she was an unofficial informant for the Stasi. | ||
| I can't really defend that, except to say that I see no indication that she's been dishonest about that part of her past. | ||
| And since around 1982, when she stopped being an informant, her career of advocacy kind of speaks for itself. | ||
| In September 2015, Paul Joseph Watson wrote a really misleading article about this task force, tending to imply that it is a body within Facebook, as opposed to a German entity studying the issue and aiming to advise Facebook. | ||
| I'll give Paul credit that in the body of his article, he does say that Kahane was an informant. | ||
| But I'm going to take that credit right back because of the headline, quote, ex-Stasi agent hired to censor xenophobic Facebook posts. | ||
| That does take away from the informant recognition and turns it into a... | ||
| One step forward, one step back. | ||
| She was... | ||
| Personally hired by... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, this is where Alex's Facebook is hiring the Stasi narrative comes from. | ||
| It was one person who doesn't work for Facebook, which has now been exaggerated into Facebook being run by 10,000 Stasi members they've hired. | ||
| This guy's an amazing liar, and you have to be pretty fucking dumb to buy things like this that he says. | ||
| I can't imagine... | ||
| Look, if you said, like, four former Stasi agents... | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe I'd be like... | ||
| I mean, you don't have to be up with the modern technology. | ||
| You could direct things. | ||
| People could bring you stuff and then you have them send your emails for you. | ||
| But 10,000 Stasi agents is like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| You're pathetic. | ||
| Anyway, this is all really just probably an issue for Alex because Kahane's advocacy is surrounding the rising right-wing extremism and their agitation towards immigrant communities. | ||
| And you know who makes money off that? | ||
| Yeah, I do know who makes money off that. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It's Alex? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Why would he choose her as an enemy? | ||
| So, anyway, 10,000 Stasi deep at Facebook. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Give me five names. | ||
| Give me five Stasi agents. | ||
| He can't give you one. | ||
| He doesn't know Annetta's name. | ||
| He doesn't know any of this shit. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| But it's not just these 10,000 Stasi agents on Facebook. | ||
| By the way, I remember seeing that Marcus Wolfe, the former head of the Stasi, was hired by the Democrats. | ||
| As a consultant to Homeland Security, he was the head of it. | ||
| I remember hearing that and I didn't believe it. | ||
| It turned out it was true. | ||
| It was true. | ||
| I can legitimately find no articles on this that don't trace back to Infowars or Prison Planet. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| So you know it's true. | ||
| Because the story's not true. | ||
| You know it's true. | ||
| It's so true. | ||
| It's too true for the rest of the world even, Dan. | ||
| According to a 2004 story that's now mysteriously gone from their websites, though it's still in the Wayback Machine, Paul Joseph Watson wrote about how a political analyst named Al Martin had alleged that Homeland Security had hired Marcus Wolfe. | ||
| There's no substantiation of this claim in the article outside of this. | ||
| Oh, oh, and this line. | ||
| Quote, sources close to Martin have told Alex Jones confidentially that the appointment of Wolf was also confirmed by U.S. congressmen. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| How many different levels of not talking to anybody is that? | ||
| That's a tell for me that this is bullshit. | ||
| Also, Marcus Wolfe wasn't the head of the Stasi. | ||
| He was the head of the main directorate for reconnaissance, the foreign intelligence wing of the Stasi. | ||
| In 2004, when this would have happened, he was 81 years old, and I can find absolutely zero concrete evidence that he was employed by U.S. national security. | ||
| Sure, I mean, you could say that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I tried to figure out who Al Martin is, since he's the only real source that this traces back to, and suffice it to say, I was not surprised by what I found. | ||
| Steve Martin's brother. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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| He has a long-dormant website called Al Martin Raw, where he would write blog posts, but what interested me the most was that he wrote a book called, quote, Shocking Secrets of Iran. | ||
| Contra. | ||
| Al Martin is yet another guy who's claimed he was in on Iran Contra. | ||
| I was just thinking, I was like, look, if you want to talk about that guy, do you know who you guys hired to run the NRA? | ||
| What are you people talking about? | ||
| And of course, this guy's also involved in Iran Contra. | ||
| A good 80% of these ambitious right-wing types claim they were mixed up in Iran Contra, which kind of strains my ability to believe most of them. | ||
| To Martin's credit, though, he calls himself a, quote, fourth-level player in the affair, whatever the fuck that means. | ||
| I like a little modesty. | ||
| Yeah, at least he's not like, I ran it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like Larry Nichols is like, I was hanging out with Holly North. | ||
| All right, buddy, whatever. | ||
| Anyway, I don't believe any of this until they can provide a little better evidence than this weak shit. | ||
| Also, just a small point, even if all of that is true, this happened in 2004, when there was not a Democratic administration in charge of Homeland Security, and both houses of Congress were controlled by the Republican Party. | ||
| I have literally zero idea how the Democrats could have hired the head of the Stasi to be involved in Homeland Security in a period of complete GOP control of all the parts of the federal government. | ||
| But I guess that's why Alex makes the big bucks. | ||
| He can imagine that. | ||
| Didn't you realize how much the Democrats snuck through from the entirely GOP-controlled world at that time? | ||
| They snuck through the fucking head of the Stasi. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Get away with that. | ||
| That might be the only thing they could sneak through with the right wing running things in 2004. | ||
| Just like, oh, you guys want to hire an ecstasy agent for us to work with? | ||
| Hell yes! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex, in his next clip, he's talking about how he's going to really get down to business. | ||
| He's going to really get down to it. | ||
| And as far as I can tell from listening to the rest of this episode, the only thing he has to get down to is more yelling about the Facebook censor fact checker person story. | ||
| Seems to be the only thing he has to get down to. | ||
| But he's going to get down to business. | ||
| All right, let's get into it right now. | ||
| I'm totally ready to lay it all out. | ||
| I'm ready to lay it out to the president. | ||
| I'm ready to lay it out to the American people, to the people of the planet, to the Pentagon, to everybody about the choices we all have to make right now. | ||
| And I know it's time for you. | ||
| I'm going to lay it out next segment. | ||
| Alright, so I am anxiously awaiting him laying this all out. | ||
| He's got 10 pages of all this stuff, prepared notes. | ||
| He's been working on this for years. | ||
| I'm ready for him to lay it out. | ||
| Within 30 seconds, he's like, I'm so fucking ready to do this. | ||
| I'll do it later. | ||
| Also, by the way, you're getting yelled at for not wearing a stupid fucking mask. | ||
| You sell masks, Alex. | ||
| Pick a lane. | ||
| You gotta choose one. | ||
| You can't be doing both of this. | ||
| It's really embarrassing. | ||
| So, anyway, Alex complains about the Wuhan, how the lab, right, they're running the Facebook fake checkers. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And he starts to worry about, like, why doesn't Trump do something about this? | ||
| I mean, one, because it's not true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But still, why? | ||
| Well, the Wuhan bioweapon lab and the Chinese operatives running Facebook and blocking the Pentagon and the president and AP saying it came from Wuhan, which is confirmed. | ||
| And I just sat back and asked myself, is the president in an incremental trance not resisting this, or is he part of it? | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| And I know Trump's not part of it. | ||
| Do you? | ||
| So he's in an incremental trance. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| I think you can handle the truth. | ||
| So yeah, his conclusion is that Trump thinks that you can't handle the truth. | ||
| That could be. | ||
| I say we go back to him being poisoned with his Diet Coke. | ||
| Sure, why not? | ||
| I liked that. | ||
| That was fun. | ||
| That was fun. | ||
| Also, I just don't get why you want to continue supporting a leader who you have to question if they're in a trance or evil. | ||
| Like, that doesn't seem like the sort of person you want to get behind. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It seems odd that it's impossible for us to find a candidate from either party that couldn't have that question asked about them. | ||
| And it's a constant thing for Alex. | ||
| He seems almost never sure. | ||
| Like, he's simultaneously always sure that Trump is the greatest, and then also like, ah, you might be gonna kill us. | ||
| Okay, so, he's my guy. | ||
| I want him to be an authoritarian leader. | ||
| But at the same time, he's not doing anything that I want him to do, which is why he's my guy. | ||
| So how is it that I can continue to support him if he doesn't do anything I want him to do? | ||
| Especially if I'm giving him all of this power. | ||
| I have a plan. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| I'll just yell. | ||
| So Alex gets into some sort of virus conspiracies here, and he's really leaning towards calling everything a scam and a fraud. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's all a giant trod. | ||
| 80,000 people died of the flu in 2018. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| They're not counting anybody new in the last two months that's died of the flu. | ||
| They always say COVID. | ||
| It's a hoax, folks. | ||
| So he's just making things up there. | ||
| If you go to the CDC's website, you can find plenty of information about the 2019-2020 flu season. | ||
| And there were plenty of influenza-related deaths that have happened that have not been double-counted as coronavirus deaths. | ||
| There's a little truth to what Alex is saying, though. | ||
| It is true that as of April 4th, the CDC's website will not be posting updated flu season burden estimates, but that isn't because there's some kind of a cover-up. | ||
| It's because flu season is mostly over, and any updates would be kind of irrelevant. | ||
| States are continuing to collect their data, which will be used to update and revise the CDC's numbers after the fact, but given that flu season has crested, the CDC's role in this has ended for now. | ||
| Almost certainly, Alex just saw a headline that the CDC was going to stop releasing revised estimates about the flu season sometime after this April 4th data came out, and he's just completely unaware of what he's talking about or willfully lying about it. | ||
| If you want to find out information about the flu season, all you have to do is look for it. | ||
| It's pretty available. | ||
| But Alex isn't interested in information. | ||
| He wants to pretend that the coronavirus deaths are all secretly just flu deaths being passed off as something else so the globalists can grab power. | ||
| He should recognize that if he's wrong about what he's saying, which he is, He stands to be personally responsible for the deaths of people who look up to him as a voice of guidance. | ||
| I really hope that he's ready and prepared to handle that kind of spiritual weight. | ||
| Because that is going to be devastating if he ever has to look in the mirror about that. | ||
| It would be devastating to non-psychopaths, but I just don't think they care. | ||
| I just don't think they have it. | ||
| You better be ready for that to be a lifelong commitment to psychopath. | ||
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That's how you become the president. | |
| Have a moment of clarity and it will destroy you. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, if it were possible for somebody like Trump, we wouldn't be where we are. | ||
| But Trump could watch people die in front of him and not give a shit. | ||
| I don't know if Alex is that purely psychopathic. | ||
| He might not be. | ||
| He might be too, though. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| That's possible. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, they walk among us. | ||
| They are day walkers, Dan. | ||
| So Alex gets to complaining about Bill Gates in this next clip. | ||
| Apparently Bill Gates wants to rule the world. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Hitler was put in power by the British and U.S. intelligence. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| So, I'm sitting here knowing who the players are in horror. | ||
| Saying Bill Gates is going to take over. | ||
| He'll be the president of the world. | ||
| He'll have forced inoculations. | ||
| He'll have a digital tattoo to travel. | ||
| Because he's been saying it and getting it ready for decades. | ||
| So, Alex is presenting that Bill Gates wants to take over the world. | ||
| Now, this next clip, this is part two. | ||
| The Pentagon loves Alex. | ||
| The president has to understand this. | ||
| And we've chronicled every move of how they operate and what they're going to do next. | ||
| I can tell you that, and I'm not bragging about this. | ||
| Sounds like you are. | ||
| The Pentagon and intelligence agencies in the White House at this point are in awe of Infowars, how we continue to be way ahead of the curve. | ||
| It's because, Mr. President, we're not naive. | ||
| So you got, this is part one and part two. | ||
| Part one, Bill Gates is going to try and take over the world. | ||
| Part two, the White House, the Pentagon, they're in awe of Alex. | ||
| So that's interesting, man. | ||
| You know, you put those all together. | ||
| Alex is in the middle of this weird rant about how evil vaccines are and how Bill Gates is going to take over the world with nefarious vaccines. | ||
| It's all standard Infowars bullshit. | ||
| However, this rises to amazing comedy when you talk about being in awe of Alex. | ||
| The White House is in awe. | ||
| And that's because Trump said this in his coronavirus briefing on April 17th, the same damn day as this episode. | ||
| Yesterday, the FDA announced a new collaboration with UnitedHealth Group, the Gates Foundation, Quantigen, and U.S. cotton to greatly expand the supply of essential swabs, including a new polyester Q-tip-type swab for the coronavirus testing. | ||
| All of these actions will help our testing capability continue to grow dramatically. | ||
| Oh, what's that? | ||
| Trump announcing a collaboration between the FDA and the Gates Foundation to help increase our testing capability? | ||
| Keep your enemies closer, Dan. | ||
| Doesn't sound like something a guy who thinks Bill Gates is an evil demon set out to take over the world would do. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Maybe he's not in awe of Alex's dumb bullshit. | ||
| Maybe he is. | ||
| Maybe personally he is. | ||
| In many ways, I am also in awe of Alex's dumb bullshit. | ||
| Just because it really does seem to never stop. | ||
| It just doesn't seem to stop. | ||
| It's old faithful. | ||
| You make a good point. | ||
| In awe could be another value-neutral statement. | ||
| Could mean a couple different things. | ||
| So at this point, Alex takes on another theme that he has throughout this show that is like, he's getting real close to just straight up advocating literal war. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| If what I'm saying is true, we have to go to war. | ||
| These people at the local level, the international level, the national level. | ||
| And it's a horrible thing. | ||
| But we're at war and they're attacking us, cutting our economies off. | ||
| They launched the damn attack. | ||
| They've been caught doing it. | ||
| The communist Chinese are now publicly running the censorship in the U.S. It's suddenly all over the news. | ||
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and Everybody's kind of like, well, we're all invested in each other, and, well, they're everywhere, and the Chinese spies are everywhere, and the big foundations fund them, and can we beat it? | |
| And anybody who sticks their heads up gets attacked. | ||
| They're expecting you to not see what this really is and deal with it. | ||
| But only by full commitment and recognizing it and being honest can we. | ||
| The president comes out and announces this. | ||
| America already senses it. | ||
| The world already knows. | ||
| We will destroy these people in hours. | ||
| We can annihilate them now. | ||
| It's us or them. | ||
| So, we're getting much closer to Alex directly saying we've got to have a world war, basically. | ||
| But it's also a local war, too. | ||
| It's a civil war and world war simultaneously, which... | ||
| Boy, that sucks. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| If I were reading 1984 as a how-to manual, I would suggest convincing everybody in a certain group that they are constantly and eternally at war with everybody in another group. | ||
| That's what I would say if I were reading 1984 as a how-to manual. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It sounds like Hillary. | ||
| Yeah, it does sound like Hillary, doesn't it? | ||
| So Alex goes out to break with this talk of, like, if Trump comes out and says the truth that I know, like, if I'm right about this stuff, then we're at war. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| Man, you shouldn't be talking like this. | ||
| Like, this is so irresponsible. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So he goes to break, and he comes back, and man, he is just rambling about how, like, I will be destroyed, but my destruction will be the true destruction of my enemies. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And this goes about exactly how you'd expect. | ||
| People ask me why I live in Austin that's basically a toilet for California. | ||
| That's because it's where my family's from. | ||
| Since it was Mexico. | ||
| So your family's shit? | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| I won't be here much longer in this city. | ||
| Everything dies. | ||
| Everything fails. | ||
| What's important is that things be reborn. | ||
| And we have planted a lot of seeds, haven't we, my friends? | ||
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| That's the good guy. | ||
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All it's done is sow the seeds of its destruction. | |
| I can feel God's spirit a thousand times stronger than I've ever felt. | ||
| The awakening has begun. | ||
| The enemy will push the boulder to the peak of the hill. | ||
| As world government stands for a year, it will collapse down on the enemy, and those of us that stand against it through this tribulation will be spiritually like Samson in the temple, though blinded and tortured, the dignity in the end of breaking in and knocking it down. | ||
| He misses that music. | ||
| Yeah, that was really helping him out. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| These are the times that try men's souls. | ||
| Let me do this. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here! | ||
| I can't continue at this point. | ||
| So sort of teasing that I can't do the show anymore. | ||
| He really exhausted himself with that ramble over the sort of overly symphonic music. | ||
| I don't have the backing music anymore. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not trying to be dramatic. | ||
| I can't do the show anymore. | ||
| Alright, man. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| I don't think a lot of movies have the good guy give a speech over fucking God or Dameron or whatever. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
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My destruction will be there. | |
| Destruction. | ||
| I can feel it. | ||
| That's the guy I want to root for. | ||
| I just love the swing there within the span of a minute. | ||
| I can feel the power and all that. | ||
| I gotta take a break. | ||
| I haven't done this for a while. | ||
| I'm gonna have to let you guys go for a little bit. | ||
| I gotta take a break. | ||
| So, Alex, praise for focus. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That I will do my best, because I keep trying, and I think I've laid out a lot of stuff so far, but not like I wanted to. | ||
| He hasn't. | ||
| At six after, I just pray to God to give me the focus and the clarity to hit it with just the facts, and just lay out the big dimensions of this without going into a little minutiae like I like to do to prove each little factoid. | ||
| But... | ||
| It is untenable and outrageous and unacceptable to have the communist Chinese officially given the run of the big five tech companies to censor people all over the world and to ban anyone off their platforms that says they're going to go out and protest to reopen America. | ||
| I would, at this point, if I were there, I'd be like, name the five. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Name them. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Easy. | ||
| Just put a name down. | ||
| Just close your eyes and say any name. | ||
| Name the five big tech companies. | ||
| It'd be like Facebook, Twitter, Google. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Is Myspace still a thing? | ||
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No. | |
| How's IBM doing? | ||
| AOL still going well? | ||
| Ah, shit. | ||
| So anyway, Alex tries to prove in this next clip the Chinese censorship thing. | ||
| And we'll see that it is just this same story about Dr. Danielle Anderson. | ||
| It's in the news confirmed. | ||
| You've heard, oh, Twitter and Facebook let armies of Chinese trolls put out this info. | ||
| But then when you read deeper, whether it's Google, whether it's Twitter, whether it's Facebook, whether it's Apple, they have over the divisions the Southern Poverty Law Center, the ADL, Media Matters, | ||
| Snopes, But now they're giving way to the Communist Chinese Party and are actually in there heading up the divisions with armies of Chinese and AI watching what you do. | ||
| I would phrase that differently. | ||
| This is public news. | ||
| Look at this headline. | ||
| Facebook fact checker worked at Wuhan Biolab, ruled out virus leak. | ||
| While debunking articles, and she's the head of Facebook science. | ||
| You know, they have their media, their culture, their sports. | ||
| Well, she's over all science news on a platform with... | ||
| How many members does Facebook have? | ||
| Well, like 3.4 billion? | ||
| Check that. | ||
| So, I want to clarify something in case it's not clear already. | ||
| Dr. Anderson, the person who's done some work at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, is not employed by Facebook. | ||
| Dr. Anderson is not in charge of Facebook science, whatever Alex imagines that is. | ||
| As for the people who are trying to say that her work at the Wuhan lab is somehow a conflict of interest, again, I have to stress that in her comments about the assertion that this virus originated at that lab, she brings up the fact that she worked there. | ||
| I have worked in this exact laboratory at various times over the past two years. | ||
| I can personally attest to the strict control and containment measures implemented while working there. | ||
| The staff at WIV are incredibly competent, hardworking, and excellent scientists with superb track records. | ||
| This doesn't work well for Alex's narrative, because he needs this to be an instance of China being in charge of this internet censorship, not just an instance of someone who had done some work at the Wuhan lab being consulted in an effort to assess the accuracy of an editorial column in the New York Post. | ||
| And why does Alex desperately need that right now? | ||
| It should be pretty obvious. | ||
| Owen and Rob Du just got kicked off Twitter, and he can't possibly accept that it was the result of them trying to start a mass rally in the middle of a pandemic. | ||
| It has to be because China is secretly in charge of social media censoring. | ||
| It's all just very lame and desperate. | ||
| Also, there are about 2.5 billion Facebook users. | ||
| Alex is off by about a billion, but who gives a shit? | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't swing me either way. | ||
| 2.5 billion is still too many. | ||
| Yeah, it's a lot. | ||
| So anyway, this story just keeps going. | ||
| This is all he wants. | ||
| That's all he's got. | ||
| Yeah, it's all he's got. | ||
| I'll show you some of the articles right here I've got. | ||
| Facebook fact checker worked at Wuhan Biolab, ruled out virus leak while... | ||
| Debunking articles. | ||
| And then you read the article at Infowars.com by Steve Watson. | ||
| It turns out she runs Facebook Science. | ||
| And she just so happens works at the Bioweapons Lab. | ||
| What do you think the chance... | ||
| Oh, and it gets Bill Gates grants. | ||
| It's just always the same group. | ||
| It's a very small group. | ||
| So this is very, very clearly Alex's number one story. | ||
| He's hitting this thing so fucking hard, I'm getting annoyed by it. | ||
| However, in this clip, he claims that there's an InfoWars article that somehow proves that Dr. Anderson is in charge of Facebook science. | ||
| So off I go to look that dumb article up. | ||
| There are actually two articles up on InfoWars about this story. | ||
| One is just a reposting of a story about it on Zero Hedge, and the other is by Steve Watson, who I sincerely thought had quit or died. | ||
| Yeah, I did too. | ||
| I haven't heard that name in quite a while, and I'm very sad to see him still doing this bullshit work. | ||
| Thought he'd grown up. | ||
| Maybe he got fired from his real estate job or something like that. | ||
| I could be. | ||
| All this information in Steve's article about Danielle Anderson is just ripped directly from the Zero Hedge article, so it's barely even a new blog post. | ||
| Neither article in any way demonstrates that Dr. Anderson is in charge of Facebook science fact-checking. | ||
| That's just completely made up, even if you accept everything in these dubious sources. | ||
| I think that what must be happening is that Alex doesn't realize that science feedback is the name of a separate business. | ||
| He just thinks it's a department of feedback related to science within Facebook. | ||
| That would explain at least part of the confusion. | ||
| But even that doesn't explain the assertion that Dr. Anderson runs Science Feedback. | ||
| That's just not true. | ||
| And his article on InfoWars even includes a link to Science Feedback's website, which lists their team, which doesn't include Dr. Anderson. | ||
| This article doesn't show any of this stuff, nor does it show Gates' funding. | ||
| None of it's supported by the evidence that he's providing at all. | ||
| For Alex to present this kind of information, he has to either be consciously making things up, or he has to do so little work that he just sees the words like Science Feedback and assumes that he knows the whole story. | ||
| Either way, this is a scary level of unpreparedness he's showing as it relates to his clear lead story. | ||
| Like, this is his lead story! | ||
| Yeah, I could also see him just reading it and saying science feedback and then just transposing it and he's like, science Facebook. | ||
| Yeah, that works. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's always about the same people, Alex, because you always make it about the same people. | ||
| You're just fitting the same people into completely different things and saying, see, look, this makes sense. | ||
| Of course you can make it always about the same people. | ||
| Yeah, if you just make stuff up. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's super easy. | ||
| So Alex gets to this next slope and he seems to be hinting at some trouble. | ||
| There's a lot of things going on behind the scenes and a lot of things I can't tell you about right now. | ||
| But let's just say this. | ||
| The enemy knows, and that's why they want us off the air. | ||
| But everybody knows that I'm unfiltered and just tell you what's going on. | ||
| And all this is public, too, but we told you before it came out. | ||
| So can you imagine what the Pentagon and the White House think about Infowars right now? | ||
| That's why we could be taken off the air at any time, because they don't want this source of information to the president. | ||
| But it's okay. | ||
| You know how things work. | ||
| And no matter what happens to me, You're going to continue on. | ||
| We know who did the bio-attack. | ||
| We know it was the deep state with the Chi-Coms against America to kill the economy. | ||
| So Alex is deeply insinuating there are things going on behind the scenes, and he might be off the air any time now. | ||
| So, about that. | ||
| It came to my attention, thanks to a listener named Rashawn over the weekend, that Alex has a gigantic legal battle going on that we've not heard about at all. | ||
| When he was out of studio over the past couple days, it seemed like it might have had something to do with the FDA or possibly his DUI, but now that I've reviewed some court documents from Pacer, I really think that there might be a completely different hidden picture going on here. | ||
| Back on January 24, 2020, Alex's ex-wife Kelly filed a petition in bankruptcy court. | ||
| She was making a claim of involuntary bankruptcy and requesting relief under Chapter 11. A claim of involuntary bankruptcy is one where a party who is owed money can file a petition to get that money they're owed, and if the party that owes the money can't pay it, they can be forced into bankruptcy involuntarily to pay the debt. | ||
| According to court filings, when they got divorced in 2015, Alex testified that he could not afford to pay the money that she was awarded in the divorce. | ||
| So he signed a real estate lien, which promised Kelly a certain amount of money related to their shared property, as well as 10% of the value of, quote, the businesses created during the Jones's marriage in the state of Texas. | ||
| I'll just read to you here from the filing that Kelly put into court. | ||
| The note requires Alex Jones to make monthly payments to Kelly Jones in the amount of $43,933. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| When Alex Jones defaults in any way, the note may be accelerated by Kelly Jones. | ||
| It goes on to say that on June 28, 2019, Alex stated that, quote, he would not pay the entirety of the July 2019 note payment and that he would not pay part of the August 2019 note payment. | ||
| I can't possibly claim to know whether or not Kelly's claims are accurate, but she's alleging in this filing that Alex defaulted on paying her for a promissory note in the amount of $786,861. | ||
| Ooh, I gotta marry somebody I hate who's rich. | ||
| That's what I gotta do. | ||
| That's what I need to do. | ||
| For some context, that's approximately 32,786 bottles of Alex's Vaso Beats. | ||
| That's a lot of sales to make that up. | ||
| So Alex naturally tried to get this case dismissed, and a hearing was scheduled for March 11th. | ||
| Interestingly, March 11th was one of those days that Alex happened not to be in studio last month. | ||
| He hosted the first little bit of the show, then Owen took over. | ||
| When we covered that, the feeling was that he had just gotten a letter from the New York Attorney General about his silver sales, and he'd just gotten DUI, so it looked like what was going on was, you know, he had these desperate sales pitches going on, but maybe it was... | ||
| Maybe what was really going on was that his ex-wife was suing him for three quarters of a million dollars. | ||
| Have you seen Uncut Gems? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's Adam Sandler's most recent movie. | ||
| I'm aware of it. | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| I watched it and it's just one non-stop guy going from creditor to creditor trying to handle all this money and move it around so he can finally pay everybody off. | ||
| But with his gambling addiction, he's trying to gamble his way back into more money the whole time. | ||
| And it's just a constant... | ||
| It's so stressful to watch this movie because you're like, just pay a bill and stop! | ||
| I got really stressed out. | ||
| Maybe not the same level, but looking at this stuff is really like, oh god. | ||
| Adding all of this, plus the FDA, plus the AG, plus his current Sandy Hook lawsuits, plus all of the other shit. | ||
| It's like, this dude is racing around from one nightmare to another. | ||
| But this one might be the big one. | ||
| So Alex left the show in Owen's hands on March 11th, and then they had this hearing. | ||
| But prior to that, on the night of March 9th, Alex got arrested for his DUI. | ||
| And the next day, Kelly filed an emergency restraining order on the grounds of child endangerment to get their children out of a clearly chaotic environment. | ||
| On March 11th, Kelly filed an emergency motion for clarification of the law. | ||
| You see, she's representing herself. | ||
| So she was requesting the court inform her if there was a conflict between the pending involuntary bankruptcy case and this emergency protective restraining order. | ||
| She was worried that the bankruptcy case would preclude her from being able to file the restraining order. | ||
| And in this motion for clarification, she makes it very clear that if it would, she would automatically dismiss the bankruptcy case. | ||
| A document like that is a real testament to her priorities and in this horrible world of Alex that we spend our time in, I couldn't help but be a little bit moved by the fact that she was willing to completely dismiss this case if it meant that it would impede her ability to try and... | ||
| Get her kids into a safe environment. | ||
| My kids are worth more than three quarters of a million dollars. | ||
| I mean, it's such a low bar. | ||
| Not to impugn her at all, but because of how many monsters we talk about, that alone is like, that means you're human. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| So on March 11th, they had their hearing, and the court decided that Kelly's cases were not in conflict, and she would not have to withdraw her bankruptcy case in order to file the protective order. | ||
| The court also dismissed Alex's motion to dismiss the bankruptcy case. | ||
| With the court determining that there was a legitimate dispute here, they set a trial date of April 23, 2020. | ||
| This will be a, quote, evidentiary trial on the merits of the involuntary petition and to determine whether to enter an order of relief against the alleged debtor, Alex, to dismiss the involuntary petition, or to enter any other appropriate order. | ||
| I normally might have considered something like this to be an element of Alex's personal life, which I generally err on the side of not covering, since it involves his divorce, and ultimately, it's not about his worldview or rhetoric. | ||
| It's just a dispute about his payment or non-payment of money he owes his ex-wife, but I'd like to explain a couple reasons why I decided to bring this up on the show. | ||
| In the past six months or so, Alex has been way, way more fatalistic on air than I've ever seen him be before. | ||
| He's been finding himself talking about quitting and recognizing that the end might be near in ways that I don't find to be similar to other periods of his career that I've looked at. | ||
| Many of the things that he's dealing with could be what's driving that. | ||
| From his supplement warnings to his upcoming Sandy Hook trial, there's a lot for him to worry about, and a lot of various things that you could think might be what he's worried will sink the ship. | ||
| I've considered all the dynamics at play, and I've become fairly convinced that this pending trial with his ex-wife is what's been motivating most of Alex's behavior over the past months. | ||
| Let me walk you through that reasoning. | ||
| According to her filing, the notification of nonpayment from Alex came regarding the July and August no payments back in 2019. | ||
| You would assume that talk of filing a lawsuit over these defaulted payments wouldn't happen immediately. | ||
| You know, there's probably some grace period. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So there's probably a pretty good chance things were normal for a little while. | ||
| Early September 2019 is when we started to hear Alex repeatedly have breakdowns, where he was talking about how InfoWars might not make it another year, and how he didn't know if he was going to reorder supplies. | ||
| Some of that definitely could have been about his need to sell out stock so he wouldn't have to pay taxes on carried-over inventory, but if you recall... | ||
| He talked a whole lot about selling his house. | ||
| This is interesting because the debt that Alex has to Kelly is secured by liens on two properties that they had. | ||
| And if Alex was found to be in default of his debt, one way it could be paid is by foreclosing on that property. | ||
| Alex knows that these houses are what is used to secure his debt. | ||
| So if he knew that he wasn't making payments, it would stand to reason that he knew it was only a matter of time until he lost his house. | ||
| January 24th was the day that the bankruptcy filing was made. | ||
| And there are a couple of interesting things that come from looking back at that show. | ||
| The first is that Alex couldn't start the show on time that day. | ||
| And when he did come to the mic, this is how it started. | ||
| Reading all the news and all the information, this is probably one of the first times that I just physically could not go on air at the start of the broadcast. | ||
| And there really just comes a time when the world's just going to have to be judged. | ||
| He's in a pretty fucked up headspace of doom. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That day. | ||
| And very much projecting his own judgments. | ||
| Sooner or later, I'm going to have to be judged. | ||
| Now, interestingly, that was the episode where Mike Adams declared it over for humanity. | ||
| And Alex might ride along with him. | ||
| That's less relevant to Alex's mental state because it was coming from Mike. | ||
| But what we pay less attention to about that episode in hindsight is the other guest that was there that day. | ||
| John Rapaport. | ||
| I've noticed that Alex doesn't really bring John Rapaport around much these days, except when he needs a bro. | ||
| I've long suspected that Rapaport is hypnotizing Alex, but maybe it's a benign kind of trance where talking to Rapaport really does make Alex feel better. | ||
| On this episode, it really did deteriorate into Alex kind of needing some therapy from John about identity issues. | ||
| God is free will, so how do you... | ||
| I think you recognize that you're... | ||
| You. | ||
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You're an individual. | |
| You're not existing by virtue of the fact that you're hooked up to other things and people and so forth. | ||
| That's not the source of your existence. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You don't need Facebook, Goldman Sachs. | ||
| You need you. | ||
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You need you. | |
| If you start there, you're going to go on the path. | ||
| He's getting this, like, real... | ||
| Yeah, that's 100% therapy. | ||
| He was fucked up. | ||
| And many John Rappaport interviews are that way. | ||
| Like, Alex really somehow just, like, needs Rappaport to set him right about things. | ||
| And he was deeply fucked up about identity issues on this episode. | ||
| And, of course, it ends with one of my favorite clips. | ||
| John Rappaport, you gotta come on more than once every six months. | ||
| Please come back on next week. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| NoMoreFakeNews.com. | ||
| You're a beautiful soul. | ||
| We love you, John. | ||
| We love John Rappaport. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
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Thank you, Alex. | |
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Alex loves John Rappaport. | ||
| Alex loves John Rappaport. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So after this point, Alex goes back to normal for a bit. | ||
| There aren't so many instances of him saying that everyone's going to die or the world is bound to be judged. | ||
| But I think that there wasn't any real reason for Alex to be too worried after the immediate situation since he was going to and did file his motion to dismiss the case. | ||
| So the ball had been successfully kicked down the road. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For now, it's just normal-ass Infowars stuff. | ||
| The one thing, though, is that there's dramatically increased sales pitches surrounding the food buckets and his silver right then. | ||
| That is when everything went through the roof. | ||
| It is. | ||
| So at this point, he's engaging in the coronavirus as he might with any other sort of completely made-up and zero-stakes conspiracies that he engages in. | ||
| On January 31st, he's freaking himself out about Resident Evil memes, to give you some sense of how seriously things were being taken at that point. | ||
| For a while, stuff is just Infowars business. | ||
| The coronavirus narrative takes some twists and turns. | ||
| In late February, Alex gets distracted by Roger's sentencing, and then he launches into a full-on publicity stunt about going to CPAC and associating with Nick Fuentes. | ||
| Kelly had until March 5th to file her response to Alex's petition. | ||
| So Alex, up until that point, if she doesn't file, he assumes she'll get kicked out. | ||
| She doesn't file on the 5th. | ||
| She ends up filing on the 6th. | ||
| But it was still accepted by the court, given the coronavirus situation making things difficult for everyone. | ||
| So, by March 6th, Alex had a good reason to think this wasn't just going to magically go away, and he knew that the hearing was on for March 11th. | ||
| On air, things aren't too different, but on March 10th, he does his show after a night in jail for a DUI. | ||
| On March 11th, Alex only hosts the first part of his show before Owen takes over. | ||
| If you recall, most of the part Alex hosted was about his vaso beats and how they have nitric oxide in them, which Alex thinks is nitrous oxide. | ||
| Also, this is the show that he ends his segment when he's hosting, before he leaves, by surprising everyone with free shipping, which he swore he'd never do again. | ||
| Things get pretty complicated at this point, because by March 12th, two things have happened. | ||
| One is that he's learned from this court that his motion to dismiss was rejected, and he'd have to go to bankruptcy trial. | ||
| The second is that he received the letter from the New York Attorney General ordering him to cease and desist from the sales tactics he was using surrounding his silver. | ||
| March 13th on his show is a complete breakdown. | ||
| He started talking about how we're all dead already. | ||
| He got really mad at callers. | ||
| He promised to hit himself on air if he didn't take enough calls. | ||
| He started rambling about how easy it was to kill other people. | ||
| And notably, he ends the show predicting the imminent end of his show. | ||
| I feel like I've almost completed my mission. | ||
| I feel so exhausted. | ||
| The Holy Spirit is just patting on the head saying, you did a good job, son. | ||
| I think something really big and bad is about to happen. | ||
| And I think I may be taken out. | ||
| At least off air very soon. | ||
| And I don't say that to be dramatic. | ||
| I want to tell you all I love you and I appreciate you. | ||
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But... | |
| There's a lot of big stuff going down. | ||
| Maybe that's going to change. | ||
| But Trump is set any minute to declare an actual emergency. | ||
| It was already declared three weeks ago. | ||
| There was no show on the 14th because it was a Saturday, and Alex didn't do his show on March 15th, 16th, or 17th. | ||
| But by the time he got back, the coronavirus situation had developed to the point where things were so crazy that it's legitimately impossible to discern what input is leading to what output from Alex. | ||
| Since then, we've seen Alex increasingly be unable to do his show. | ||
| He's left the show on a number of occasions. | ||
| He's descended into rants about how the public deserves to be exterminated. | ||
| He's gone out to break yelling things about how his listeners were going to burn in hell, only to come back from commercial and apologize. | ||
| There's something very serious up, and this case seems like a possible candidate for what it is. | ||
| I could be entirely wrong. | ||
| I admit that entirely. | ||
| But I think that this timeline somewhat suggests that a large secret contributor to Alex's complete inability to do his job, his frequent dalliances into thoughts of impending doom, and his notable recent absences could be this bankruptcy case that he's due in court for this Thursday. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| This is another reason I wanted to discuss this a little bit. | ||
| I have no idea how the case is going to shake out, but there's a real possibility that this week could end with Alex losing a massive settlement that could stand to bankrupt him. | ||
| I would hate for that news to break and have just been sitting on this information and not discuss it. | ||
| At the same time, it's entirely possible that the court will decide in Alex's favor, or the trial could go on longer than one hearing, or Alex could lose and appeal the decision. | ||
| I have no idea what's going to happen, but the more I looked at the timeline of this stuff, the more I saw possible overlap. | ||
| Please, though, just take this as a possible thing. | ||
| Definitely not something that I'm claiming is definitive. | ||
| Most of the things that you can see that line up as being possibly Alex responding to things in this case could easily be explained by other things. | ||
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Like the New York attorney general's letter coming right at the same time that his motion to dismiss was rejected. | |
| He's kind of got so much chaos going on in his life right now that it's almost pointless as an exercise to try and figure out what contributes to what. | ||
| But I thought that if we had some information about a case that could possibly wreck Alex, it's worth discussing. | ||
| Also, small point. | ||
| My birthday is this Friday, the day after Alex's trial. | ||
| So if the universe really wants to give me an amazing present, I think they know what I want. | ||
| I think it's sad a little bit for Alex because I don't think he's capable of that clarity that comes whenever everything is just too bad. | ||
| Like, it seems like... | ||
| This has been my experience. | ||
| Probably not until it's too late. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whenever I've been in a situation where it's like just one thing after another, everything pisses me off until it gets to that point where I'm like, this is just so bad, I can't even feel angry about this. | ||
| I just have perfect clarity of how I'm going to be fucked, and I just got to live through this, and he just cannot do that. | ||
| Maybe off air he does. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's so impossible to tell because of that. | ||
| That DUI would suggest otherwise. | ||
| That was one of the things that really seemed in the timeline to be... | ||
| It's a right smack dab in the middle of him realizing he has to go to court and the day he has his hearing. | ||
| It's so right there. | ||
| It's really difficult though. | ||
| It's almost impossible to say anything. | ||
| But I haven't heard any... | ||
| Like, real talk of this case. | ||
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| And, like, there's a lot of stuff in it that does veer too much into the personal, which is, like, I don't think we have any business covering. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Jordan, we get back down to business. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And Alex is talking about how he's right about everything. | ||
| But because he's right about everything, Trump won't say the same things Alex does, because that means war. | ||
| The very people that created the virus, gave it to China, released it, covered it up, got it over here, are now blaming President Trump. | ||
| It's a script, and we're just following it, but it's so diabolical. | ||
| It's so evil. | ||
| It's so ridiculous. | ||
| But the Pentagon keeps going, oh, we don't think it's man-made. | ||
| We don't think it challenged it on purpose, because if that's true, we've got to go to war with them. | ||
| And I understand that President Trump... | ||
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I keep forgetting to put this on. | |
| I'm going to go to rebroadcast for a while. | ||
| We'll just do that. | ||
| Because this thing's been off for a while, and I just need to get my earpiece back in. | ||
| He's saying that Trump needs to say the same things as him, even though that means war, and then in the middle of a thought, he's like, my earpiece isn't in, I'm gonna go off air. | ||
| How little does he care about the seriousness of the topics he's covering? | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| I'm just gonna leave you with that little tidbit of, I think we should be at war with China. | ||
| I gotta get off air real quick. | ||
| My earpiece. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's my earpiece. | ||
| Can't put it back in on air. | ||
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It's so hard to find! | |
| Wow! | ||
| That's shocking. | ||
| So no more half measures, though. | ||
| It's time to go to war, basically. | ||
| Playing games and half measures and being politicians and playing patty cake with this is going to get us destroyed. | ||
| So the old rules of being chicken necks and being cowards is over. | ||
| Were you being that? | ||
| Let me just do this, because when things are really bad and really crazy and really insane, people need to be prepared and ready. | ||
| I tend to get in the mode where I don't even talk about things that we can at least do. | ||
| If you don't have firearms and ammunition, you better get them. | ||
| I don't sell firearms and ammunition. | ||
| If you don't have water filtration, you're insane. | ||
| You need high-quality water filtration. | ||
| The Alexa Pure and the systems we have are excellent. | ||
| I think they're sold out, so what's the point of plugging them? | ||
| You should just try to get them somewhere. | ||
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Alex? | |
| Alex knows damn well that Alexa Pure water filters are not sold out because they can never really be sold out because he doesn't actually keep them in his warehouse. | ||
| If you go to his website, you'll immediately learn that he doesn't really sell Alexa Pure filters. | ||
| They're a product that he sells through MyPatriotSupply, his survival food sponsor. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| My Patriot Supplies orders. | ||
| He said on many occasions that they take the orders directly from Alex's website and they go to My Patriot Supplies Fulfillment Center. | ||
| Then they ship it from there. | ||
| Obviously, this would be needed to sell any of the food buckets at any kind of scale because no matter how big a space Alex is renting, he couldn't possibly afford to have a warehouse big enough for bulk food and water filtration systems. | ||
| And this is spelled out on his website's shipping information. | ||
| Quote, to ensure quality and reduce costs, this item ships directly from the supplier. | ||
| If you purchase additional items, they will be shipped separately. | ||
| In order for Alexa Pure water filters to be sold out, it must be true that MyPatriot's supply itself is sold out of water filters. | ||
| And in that case, it makes no sense to say they're great, just try and find them somewhere. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| This is an involuntary reaction for Alex to say things are sold out or near sold out because that creates the perception of artificial scarcity in the listener's mind. | ||
| It's a pretty old school manipulative sales tactic and what you're selling isn't the product. | ||
| What you're selling is the fear that you might be unable to get said product. | ||
| And won't you feel dumb then? | ||
| You could have a chance. | ||
| You're thinking about this. | ||
| Lexus, this is a great car. | ||
| I don't know if you're not on the fence. | ||
| I have two prospective buyers already. | ||
| Let me just tell you right now. | ||
| This one on the lot, it's the last one we haven't seen. | ||
| I have two people coming in later that already said they want to buy. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| I'll talk to my manager. | ||
| I'll see if I can... | ||
| Look, we might be able to get free shipping on this. | ||
| I said I would never get free shipping to Lexuses before. | ||
| Generally, I don't believe Alex when he says things are sold out or near selling out, but typically I can't really do anything to confirm or deny his claims. | ||
| In this case, however, it's a clear-cut instance of a complete lie. | ||
| So we got a new water filter? | ||
| What? | ||
| Is that how you proved that they're still in stock? | ||
| No, but I did go to the website. | ||
| I did go to my Patriot's plan. | ||
| They're still in stock. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But you gotta get this food. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You got to. | ||
| Got to get the buckets. | ||
| Got to get the water filters. | ||
| In four to six months, you're going to need that food. | ||
| Because it's time to fucking bug out. | ||
| And I got stuff I bought from them 12 years ago in my attic. | ||
| And I got stuff I bought six months ago before all this kicked off in my garage. | ||
| And when I went out to the place we've set up in the country, it took a bunch of this out there. | ||
| Because I don't want to evacuate. | ||
| It was one of the worst things I ever did. | ||
| I just felt terrible doing it. | ||
| To even have to start preparing. | ||
| For the total collapse of us being taken off the air and knowing that that is now a real possibility. | ||
| And that we're at that point. | ||
| And I'm not going to lie to you. | ||
| But I have never been more disgusted. | ||
| Because a lot of folks like to get into prepping and they feel kind of selfish. | ||
| They've got their cabin in their woods and it's kind of romantic and everything. | ||
| But for me, because I'm on air and all this, to think that we may get our asses kicked, at least in this round, have to shut down. | ||
| And then they're going to start arresting everybody during that. | ||
| And just to watch America on its knees makes me sick. | ||
| I don't really want to go down this road. | ||
| But I've got to tell you now, folks, you definitely want to get food to supplement yourself into the future. | ||
| And you want food that's easily transportable and that you've got ready to go. | ||
| And there's not going to be any currency out there more valuable than food. | ||
| So get my food money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is pretty doomy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, let me follow his logic real quick. | ||
| There's no currency that will be more valuable than food. | ||
| So you should trade your money for my food. | ||
| Well, he doesn't actually have the food. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| I will give him that. | ||
| He's the middle man to get you this future currency. | ||
| I'm just saying that it would make more sense from an investing standpoint. | ||
| Well, in the past, he would have said gold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he doesn't have a stake in that now. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No more, hey, the bottom's going to fall out. | ||
| Total societal collapse. | ||
| Summer of rage. | ||
| Come and get gold. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| None of that anymore. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's pointless. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You gotta get food. | ||
| Because the globalists are at war with us. | ||
| And food is the answer. | ||
| Globalists are engaged in economic and cultural war against us. | ||
| And they're using this overhyped virus as the pretext to make themselves the saviors. | ||
| And if you don't give them all the power and all the control over your life, you're the bad guy. | ||
| Well, the answer is give yourself power and control over your life. | ||
| And at least get that three-month supply of food. | ||
| And have that in your attic or in your basement or wherever as a supplement into the future. | ||
| Knowing it's contained, it's ready, it's easily transferable. | ||
| If you've got a bug out, you're not putting stuff in paper bags or plastic bags and put it in the back of the truck. | ||
| You're putting it in waterproof plastic tote containers, and you're ready to boogie out. | ||
| Ready to boogie out, you say. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| No, it's not great. | ||
| So Alex gets done with his dumb, very extended sales pitch, and he wants to let you know that he's going to drop the ultimate smoking gun. | ||
| That China is doing this censoring or something. | ||
| Is it a homeless man with a computer chip in his arm? | ||
| I wish it was. | ||
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| If he gets kicked off the air before doing that, I'm going to be furious. | ||
| That's his last episode. | ||
| That's what he should do. | ||
| That's one of those things. | ||
| Sometimes there will be storylines going in the WWE and then someone gets fired and you never get the end of the storyline. | ||
| Oh, that's brutal. | ||
| If Alex fucking stops doing the show without doing that surgery. | ||
| I'm going to be furious. | ||
| I really don't want to have to say that Alex's show was canceled too soon. | ||
| So, smoke and gun. | ||
| All of this is incredibly important, but I want listeners to understand something. | ||
| This is life and death, okay? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm going to lay this on the White House and on Trump's lawyers and on the Pentagon and on everybody else. | ||
| Dramatic action is the only way out of this. | ||
| Leveling with the people is the only way out of this. | ||
| That we're in a total war with globalist criminals allied with the communist Chinese who developed the virus, prepared the propaganda, prepared the TV shows, the movies, the tabletop exercises with governments that literally spent hundreds of millions of U.S. taxpayer money through Bill and Melinda Gates. | ||
| They don't ever spend their own money. | ||
| Oh, you're such a philanthropist. | ||
| It's such a sick joke. | ||
| To pre-program the response you're seeing that is the takedown of the industrial world. | ||
| Something that thousands of bombers couldn't do with conventional munitions. | ||
| Prepare yourselves for the ultimate smoking gun. | ||
| Smoking gun is just him covering that story about the fact checker again. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why am I being prepared for that? | ||
| I've already prepared for it. | ||
| Yeah, he's already done it a bunch. | ||
| It's already over. | ||
| It's like if I've already eaten all the food. | ||
| I've already prepared for this. | ||
| Yeah, he just covers the Dr. Danielle Anderson story again. | ||
| Although, in this run through the story, there's actually a couple of added elements to it. | ||
| A couple of lieutenant colonels? | ||
| No, but just a couple of added details where Alex is missing nuance. | ||
| When you look up Dr. Danielle Anderson, what do you find at Duke? | ||
| In U.S. Medical School. | ||
| She helped develop the test kit for COVID-19 that's now set to make over $200 billion. | ||
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| The very lab that released it developed the test kit. | ||
| How convenient. | ||
| Fake laugh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we have two claims being made there, primarily. | ||
| First is that Dr. Anderson is involved in the development of COVID-19 test kits, and the second is that she stands to make a ton of money from it. | ||
| Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security has a list up on their website of all the tests for COVID-19 that are currently used or are in development. | ||
| And if you want, we can take a look through all of them. | ||
| There are currently four tests that have been approved for diagnostic use in the United States, nine that have been approved for diagnostic use in other countries but not here, 26 that are, quote, approved for research and surveillance purposes only, and 11 more that are currently still in development. | ||
| This alone should give you a pretty good sense that there isn't really a race to make this test in order to corner the market. | ||
| There are a lot of people working on a very similar goal. | ||
| No one's going to make $200 million. | ||
| $200 billion. | ||
| Pardon me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| People might make $200 million. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| One of the tests that is not used in the United States was developed at the Wang Lab, which is a part of the Duke and U.S. in Singapore. | ||
| This test is only used in Singapore, and it's for antibodies to the virus. | ||
| The test was developed by Professor Wang Linfa, and though it took a while to find evidence that this was the case, it is actually true that Dr. Anderson did collaborate with him on it. | ||
| In a March interview with NUS News, Professor Wang said, quote, in my research with Assistant Professor Anderson, we are working. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| this is kind of a half truth being used to create a whole lie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Dr. Anderson is involved in the development of a test at Duke and U S, but there's no reason to believe that she's motivated by profits so that she stands to make billions off of it. | |
| If Alex wants to complain about that, he should start with Celex or ChemBio, who are the two companies that own tests, or two of the companies that own tests that are approved to be used in the United States. | ||
| This is a big zero in terms of a conspiracy. | ||
| Her test is not even approved in the United States. | ||
| No, just in Singapore. | ||
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Cool. | |
| Cool, Alex. | ||
| Thanks for that. | ||
| Just because... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
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It's... | |
| Good for her. | ||
| I'm glad she helped develop the test. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I don't see anything wrong with her. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| But... | ||
| I'm not taking into account the fact that she fucking runs Facebook along with 10,000 Stasi members. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| She runs Facebook and decides who can say what. | ||
| And she works high level at the bioweapons lab on record. | ||
| And she has the big global test that it turns out says all cold bugs are COVID-19 to get a higher rate. | ||
| Oh, when did it do that? | ||
| Every death as COVID-19 when it's not. | ||
| So, you talk about, no wonder they want to censor everybody, because they can't handle anybody studying who they did. | ||
| You're all caught! | ||
| So, that must be why they want Alex off the air, because no one can handle the level of truth and investigation he's bringing to the table. | ||
| The globalists just have no rebuttal to this high-end truth coming out of the Infowars. | ||
| They just shut it down. | ||
| So the first claim here is that Dr. Anderson runs Facebook's fact-checking, which you've already discussed in detail, and it's not true. | ||
| The second claim is that this test that she was involved in developing in Singapore is designed to make people with colds test positive for COVID-19. | ||
| This one's actually really interesting. | ||
| I mean, obviously it's not true, but the extent to which it's not true is actually impressive. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| According to an article in the Straits Times, an English newspaper in Singapore, the development of this test was actually very difficult for exactly the reason Alex is suggesting. | ||
| This is a serology test that looks for antibodies against COVID-19, so it's important that they actually find the exact antibodies, or else this test is kind of useless. | ||
| As it turns out, Singapore is kind of the perfect place for that kind of thing to be developed, primarily because the country was hit hard by the SARS outbreak in 2003. | ||
| So there's a lot of people who have antibodies for SARS in their body there. | ||
| SARS and COVID-19 are both coronaviruses, and according to Dr. Wang, they're approximately 80% similar. | ||
| So the challenge he faced was to develop an antibody test that was so precise that it wouldn't bring up false positives if it was used on someone who had antibodies for SARS in them. | ||
| They came up with a screening test that was approximately 90% accurate and is very quick, as well as a, quote, gold standard test that takes four to five days in a level three biohazard lab, but is supposedly completely accurate. | ||
| What's important here is that the test developed in Singapore is actually the worst possible example Alex could come up with when he's randomly trying to accuse people of creating a test that will just call any cold COVID-19. | ||
| The team of researchers set out from the jump with the awareness that they would have to create a test that doesn't create false positives for very similar tests. | ||
| Anyway, no one... | ||
| The imaginary globalists, least of all, are worried about the alleged truth that Alex is spreading on air. | ||
| I think people want him off air because he's an unstable narcissist who seems to be drifting deeper and deeper into calling for a simultaneous civil and cold war, curiously right when his own personal life is falling apart. | ||
| That someone who, leaving politics aside, should not be on air is only a danger. | ||
| It is like he correctly identified the problem and then just assumed it was insurmountable. | ||
| You mean the antibodies? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Of course it would provide false positives because... | ||
| And you're like, okay. | ||
| That is a good start. | ||
| And smart people caught that before you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's why no one's afraid of you. | ||
| If you have a thought, somebody had it first, buddy. | ||
| The common cold is less similar to COVID-19 than SARS is. | ||
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| And if they're considering SARS in terms of this test, which, again, isn't globally used. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what Alex is trying to prove here, but it's all bullshit. | ||
| I think he's proving himself wrong. | ||
| So earlier in the episode, Alex was complaining about children being told to confront their parents about misinformation and stuff. | ||
| And he doesn't really get around to explaining what that story is about until later. | ||
| And so now we get into that, and man, holy fucking shit, this falls off the rails. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| From Australia to the United States to Canada. | ||
| They are calling for people to get in their parents' faces during kids at home on government programming. | ||
| And CNN has played to all the public schools. | ||
| First period, first ten minutes, they're doing it too. | ||
| Saying, does your dad say it came from Wuhan lab? | ||
| Well, get in his face and send him a definitive link. | ||
| Trump. | ||
| Danielle Anderson. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| And they don't tell you she runs the lab! | ||
| Or has the test for it that says all coronaviruses are COVID-19 to create the hysteria. | ||
| These people are ridiculously obvious and stupid. | ||
| First thing I would say is this name has never come up on Alex's show before, and yet she seems to be the master over all areas of... | ||
| So maybe that's... | ||
| Maybe that should be a red flag. | ||
| She's behind George Soros. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| Yeah, Dr. Anderson. | ||
| Soros isn't even a doctor! | ||
| Now you know how evil she is. | ||
| She has a degree. | ||
| Yeah, how'd you fuck this up? | ||
| Didn't notice this lady for all this time? | ||
| How long has she been working? | ||
| Never? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Great. | |
| There you go. | ||
| So, another obvious problem with the narrative that Alex is selling here, at least as far as the U.S. goes, is that most schools in the country are closed, so there's no class where they'd be playing these videos for kids. | ||
| I'm not sure how elementary schools operate, except for outside. | ||
| In my experience, they don't have periods. | ||
| I feel like that's for older students, like in junior high and high school, but I have no idea. | ||
| I haven't been to school in a long time. | ||
| So this video isn't something that's played for kids at school. | ||
| It's a news piece that the Canadian Broadcasting Company did about the uncomfortable situation that a lot of people find themselves in, where someone in a group chat, possibly a family member, is spouting insane conspiracy theories. | ||
| The piece is basically just explaining that your instinct might be to call them crazy, but that kind of shaming behavior will often just reinforce the belief the person previously had as a defense mechanism to deal with the embarrassment of being called out. | ||
| They recommend inclusive, empathic language, like reminding the person that we're all in this together. | ||
| It doesn't recommend anyone use the resources put out by Danielle Anderson, nor does it mention health feedback. | ||
| They just suggest sending them a good link to a real source. | ||
| But if Alex is laughing at the idea of good sources, we are well past the point where his point makes any sense. | ||
| He was actually referencing my video where I gave examples such as, like, Listen up, Mom! | ||
| If that is your real name, you're wrong about everything! | ||
| And also, I'll see you in hell! | ||
| Can I have dinner later? | ||
| Alex is not as concerned with confronting moms as he is about this being a real attack on dads. | ||
| Yeah, well. | ||
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This is pretty fucked up. | |
| Pretty fucked up. | ||
| He starts trying to play the video and he can't control himself. | ||
| Here, here, let's go ahead and play this. | ||
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So what do you do when this happens? | |
| A loved one, let's say it's your dad, drops into the family group chat with something he thinks is real. | ||
| Pause again. | ||
| Let's back this up. | ||
| Men fighting for their families. | ||
| How dare them dropping into a group chat to talk to the women. | ||
| The women are going to show him. | ||
| Oh, like Daniel Anderson at the Bioweapon Lab, who makes money off the test, who runs the censorship. | ||
| Ladies, we're going to show the men! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Screw them! | ||
| Screw those men! | ||
| Hell yeah! | ||
| Shut them up! | ||
| Cut their balls off! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Bill Gates loves us! | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Go ahead and roll it. | ||
| That sounded a little personal. | ||
| That sounded a little personal. | ||
| But if it were just that, I would leave it alone. | ||
| I would be like, yeah, this is your masculine sensitivity. | ||
| But he says restart it. | ||
| So he started back over. | ||
| I'm like, alright, maybe he'll get further into it this time. | ||
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So what do you do when this happens? | |
| A loved one, let's say it's your dad, drops into the family group chat with something... | ||
| Let's say it's your dad. | ||
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Oh, that one. | |
| A changer of diapers and took the barbecue and took the trash out and loves you and swam with the pool in you and took you to Girl Scouts. | ||
| Back it up! | ||
| It sounds personal, Dad. | ||
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Dad! | |
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| No 5G is who loves you. | ||
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Just die. | |
| Girls, just let us run you, please. | ||
| Let us sterilize you, please. | ||
| Please die. | ||
| Kill them! | ||
| Sorry, it's so liberal. | ||
| It's so liberal. | ||
| Listen to Daniel Anderson. | ||
| Don't listen to your daddy. | ||
| Listen to Bill Gates. | ||
| Let's play it again. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Yes, this definitely feels like he's working through some things. | ||
| There might be something personal going on. | ||
| I don't think he has a great relationship with the women in his life currently. | ||
| It doesn't seem like it. | ||
| So he tries a third time. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Why would you do that? | ||
| Let's play it again. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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So what do you do when this happens? | |
| A loved one, let's say it's your dad, drops into the phone with something he thinks is real. | ||
| It's something about China that you think is real. | ||
| Of course, it's all true. | ||
| Dad's right. | ||
| But see, it's like the fun of, we don't listen to Dad. | ||
| We take the shots and have convulsions and die. | ||
| But it's so trendy! | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Turn it over. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| How many times? | ||
| He makes it a little bit further the next time. | ||
| But it's just... | ||
| I mean, it seems like he's really hinging on that dad thing to a level that... | ||
| Maybe it's about the HR director at M4's. | ||
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Could be! | |
| His own dad, maybe. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| It's possible. | ||
| Something real fucked up that he's trying to express. | ||
| So he goes out to break yelling about dads, basically. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Dad's right. | ||
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Dad! | |
| Oh, you're feeding into the fear. | ||
| Just stay at home. | ||
| The Chinese love you. | ||
| Sure, they've got three million people in death camps, but dad, sure, they kill people. | ||
| Dad! | ||
| Dad! | ||
| No! | ||
| China's got dad! | ||
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Ah! | |
| Liberals! | ||
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Yeah, bro! | |
| Yeah, bro! | ||
| If he just didn't have testicles, Dad! | ||
| If there wasn't free speech, Dad! | ||
| These weird, frumpy women on the Chi-Con payroll told me my daddy's bad! | ||
| Screw you, Daddy! | ||
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Burn in hell, Daddy! | |
| Admittedly, that is the type of behavior that would get a dog neutered. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't really have much of a comment about this. | ||
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This is just something someone shouldn't be doing on air. | |
| It's so obviously... | ||
| It's pathological. | ||
| It's not using the source material to provide commentary. | ||
| It's not really even expressing a point. | ||
| It's just lashing out. | ||
| It's just angry. | ||
| It's just responsive anger. | ||
| And it seems to all circle around the idea of listening to Dad. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Something about Dad really set him off there. | ||
| Something about somebody's children not listening to Dad. | ||
| That seems really important to him right now for some odd reason. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So he goes to break and he comes back. | ||
| And I guess maybe because of some of those issues, he needs a proxy son. | ||
| So he brings Owen Schroer into studio to be his dad. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And the two of them just are straight up calling for war with China. | ||
| If you could actually be honest that this came out of a lab and was man-made, then you could actually say, okay, you know what? | ||
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Hey, we got a serious situation here. | |
| This is biological warfare launched against us by the Chinese. | ||
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We need this to phase out. | |
| We're going to need a month. | ||
| We're going to have to do some serious social distancing. | ||
| We're at war with China. | ||
| Instead, they're totally desperate, blaming our speech when it's confirmed. | ||
| And how does the government put up with this? | ||
| Chai comms? | ||
| Run everything? | ||
| I want action from the president now! | ||
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No, it's totally out of control. | |
| And I'm not going to try to... | ||
| People go, why are you so upset? | ||
| I don't know, we're under bio-attack, we're locked down in our houses. | ||
| Any other reason, Al? | ||
| But I know a lot of men, like if you bump into a store, they're ready to kick your ass. | ||
| Or if your dog craps the yard, they go, your dog just craps. | ||
| I'm like, hey, sorry, I'll beat your ass. | ||
| But if somebody just kills your whole family, destroys your way of life, you just sit there and piss on a little puddle. | ||
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I mean, I'm sick of it. | |
| Is Alex saying that trying to fight over bumping into somebody is a good impulse? | ||
| Is it? | ||
| It's not. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| But I think Alex seems to think that it is. | ||
| Anyway, the two of them are basically just saying they want Trump to go to war with China, which is not good. | ||
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Owen, thank you so much for listening to Dad. | |
| Oh my god, I needed somebody to listen to Dad so bad. | ||
| Oh, thank you, Owen. | ||
| So they start discussing how we're almost... | ||
| In a nuclear war. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You realize we're two inches from total nuclear war right now? | ||
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With China. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I've had it. | ||
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It's time for action. | |
| I don't know what the president's waiting on at this point. | ||
| Whoa, reality? | ||
| Man. | ||
| Man, oh man. | ||
| Hope no one's listening to this. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| So Alex and Owen, they're goofed. | ||
| They do a lot of goofing on this interview. | ||
| If you want to call it that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Comedy segment. | ||
| Alex gets lost in an impression, I think, of like a Rothschild kind of thing. | ||
| This is where I kind of thought, like, maybe he's drunk, but I think maybe not. | ||
| I think he just got, like, really emotionally overloaded. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now he needs Owen to, like, fuck around. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because it got too real. | ||
| Some kind of release. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think that's more what's going on than him being drunk. | ||
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I mean, this is... | |
| And we're going to let that thing on screen run. | ||
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But that's like the Rothschild, like the old Rothschild royalty. | |
| They're kind of losing control. | ||
| Bill Gates is now seeing this. | ||
| Virus scared them. | ||
| Oh, that will shove them away. | ||
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And Bill Gates is sitting back like, yes, you had your central banking. | |
| I'm in control. | ||
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There's Bill Gates right there. | |
| He's like, oh, your central banks are failing. | ||
| Your fake wars have been exposed. | ||
| They'll kill everyone. | ||
| They'll forget about your Ponzi scheme. | ||
| I just want to say, this is great. | ||
| Except everyone knows it's you. | ||
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And you think it scares me, the stuff you've got jacked up? | |
| I love it! | ||
| I've never been hired in this. | ||
| I love it! | ||
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So we've got... | |
| I'm here to destroy your ass. | ||
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No, but Alex, here's the thing. | |
| People want to be like, oh my gosh, you guys are just so extreme. | ||
| You're just so loud and boisterous. | ||
| Why are you so alive? | ||
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Oh, I don't know. | |
| It's like I got people putting out Chinese propaganda in the United States claiming it's reality. | ||
| Facebook's run by the Wuhan deputy scientist. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, I mean, like, it's not the, like, tell-tale drunk signs. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But there are some little things, like the constantly interrupting the, sorry, sorry. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Like, that happens when he's drunk, but I think it also happens when he's sober. | ||
| This, to me, is inconclusive. | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| And I'd err on the side of sober. | ||
| Yeah, I think he's sober. | ||
| I think he's just out of his mind. | ||
| I think it's the sorry that's only, it's the sorry that's throwing me off. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Usually, if he's not drunk, he'll just be like, go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like that. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Hard to tell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they get around to, like, they're doing this shit that's, like, fucking around and nonsense, these weird impressions. | ||
| We need to go to total nuclear war with China! | ||
| Yeah, and then it jumps back and forth, because in this next clip they're talking about how, like, hey, we could end this in three hours if we had leadership. | ||
| These guys are awesome. | ||
| Don't forget that literally, if there was any leadership, we could decapitate these people in, like, three hours. | ||
| I mean, the military could just, you send out a thousand assassins. | ||
| And go after globalists that are known ChiCom operatives and you just take control of the infrastructure, hand it back to the people. | ||
| And I'm not a guy that lusts for violence. | ||
| They're attacking us, brother. | ||
| Yeah, brother. | ||
| They're attacking us. | ||
| You lust for violence. | ||
| To an insane degree. | ||
| Yeah, a terrifying amount. | ||
| Your bloodlust is terrifying. | ||
| Right, I mean, what would this three hours of taking out the leadership involve? | ||
| I mean, you'd have to overthrow China, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You'd have to take out all of the globalists, which are pretty much everybody. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The whole Democratic Party, the entire, all of big tech, all of the healthcare system in the country, all philanthropy, all foundations, I already said Democrats. | ||
| You're going to need more than a thousand assassins. | ||
| I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| And more than three hours. | ||
| This is a stupid fucking idea he's got. | ||
| The point of using an assassin is that it's a small, it's a one person, you know? | ||
| It's easy for one person to get into places. | ||
| If you're using a thousand assassins, somebody's gonna get tipped off. | ||
| Does he really think that a thousand assassins could take out the 10,000 Stasi that run Facebook? | ||
| Yeah, they're the better assassins. | ||
| To be fair, the Stasi are old, so maybe it would work. | ||
| So, Owen, of course, is there to complain. | ||
| It takes longer than three hours to get to China. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So, Owen's there mostly to complain about the fact that he got kicked off Twitter, of course. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And, you know, of course, it's because he was trying to do this rally, right? | ||
| Interestingly, he tries to compare his own rally to those of the civil rights era. | ||
| Sure, that's going around. | ||
| There's a couple problems. | ||
| White people love that shit. | ||
| Couple problems. | ||
| Love that shit. | ||
| We'll play that clip when we come back and we'll get into your thought crime because imagine you're like, yeah, I'm going to go out and exercise my right to assemble, you know, like black folks did in the 1960s or whatever. | ||
| I use that on the left. | ||
| Like, imagine they just said there was a virus back then. | ||
| We wouldn't even end in segregation. | ||
| I mean, it's just like, it's like you just literally, everything stopped because there's a virus. | ||
| It's not even that deadly of a virus. | ||
| No, no, stop breathing, actually. | ||
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Because you can catch the virus. | |
| That's how you stop the virus. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, I guarantee you, you can't catch a respiratory virus if you stop breathing. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
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That's the answer, folks. | |
| Stop breathing. | ||
| The superpower that I have is that I tell you what I really think, even if it ends up hurting me short term. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Got cut off by the break there with their fucking around. | ||
| I mean, there's some problems with the comparison. | ||
| Like what, Dan? | ||
| I can't see any off the top of my head. | ||
| Well, I mean, I would just start with racism not being contagious. | ||
| Well, if you listen to Alex, it might be. | ||
| I would also suggest that possibly during the civil rights era were there a gigantic outbreak. | ||
| White people would have cared so much about the black community. | ||
| Some of those protests might have been put off. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They would have still happened, maybe a little later. | ||
| I think that, yeah, probably civil rights is one of the most important things that you could possibly agitate for, protest in favor of. | ||
| Still think you might want to hold off a tiny bit if there is a gigantic pandemic going on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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Listen, guys. | |
| That's a counterfactual. | ||
| I can't say for sure that that is what would have happened, but I imagine there's a chance. | ||
| Yeah, I would hope that Martin Luther King Jr. wouldn't be like, well, we've been being fucked over and murdered by the white oppressors for our entire lives and the entire lives of our families and back and back and back, so I think it's a good idea for all of us to get together and wipe out 2-3% of us at the same time. | ||
| I think that's a great idea. | ||
| Second difference. | ||
| Owen, his whole thing is meaningless, and there's no point to them doing what they're doing. | ||
| So that's the other big difference there. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Also, it's a horribly racist thing for them to even say. | ||
| Perhaps, yes. | ||
| In this next clip, though, I should say, at the end of that last one, Owen started fucking around and saying, like, hey, if we stop breathing, we won't spread the virus. | ||
| Go for it, Owen! | ||
| Start! | ||
| Well, you first. | ||
| It turns out this becomes a big comedy piece. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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I'm not even going to take a deep breath. | |
| I'm just going to stop breathing because I want to be a leader. | ||
| I want to stop the spread. | ||
| It's all about stopping the spread. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| I want the crew as well. | ||
| I'm Obama. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And you're Hillary. | ||
| Let's just... | ||
| Now, of course, we do have a silence alarm that'll hit, so we should probably play some music under this or the station's getting mad. | ||
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It's like something like he would get at a funeral. | |
| Yeah, it's kind of getting harder. | ||
| But I'm saving the earth, right? | ||
| Hold on. | ||
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A little COVID's coming out. | |
| No, but we joke around about this. | ||
| I saw the headline, like, breathing spreads it. | ||
| Well, the obvious answer is non-breathing. | ||
| I saved the world! | ||
| I'm saving the world! | ||
| It's a good bit. | ||
| It's a good bit. | ||
| You can't take that away from good bit. | ||
| Well-executed, well-conceived. | ||
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I'm done, Karen. | |
| Go for it, buddy. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| That goes on a bit longer than in that clip. | ||
| You want to mock people dying from COVID-19 and then go outside and have a big rally with all kinds of people around? | ||
| Go to it. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
| So, in this next clip, they talk about the suspension from Twitter, and they have three primary complaints about it, or Alex does. | ||
| And all of them are dumb. | ||
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Here's what I'm saying, Alex. | |
| Get back to the censorship. | ||
| They're using coronavirus as an excuse. | ||
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It's not about coronavirus. | |
| It's not about stopping this. | ||
| Obviously, it's not about that. | ||
| But what about Congress should act that Twitter says they're trying to organize to have protests. | ||
| Those aren't allowed in America. | ||
| What happened to freedom of assembly? | ||
| All your BS doesn't trump that. | ||
| This is insane how they just push the president and the president out further and further. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| The three complaints are in a later clip. | ||
| This is just the first complaint. | ||
| This is the right of assembly. | ||
| Twitter is in no obligation to protect Alex or Owen's right to assemble somewhere. | ||
| The First Amendment is about what the government can and cannot do. | ||
| And the government can't stop free assembly. | ||
| That's the rule. | ||
| Twitter can suspend people for trying to put together huge gatherings in the middle of a pandemic. | ||
| That's totally within their rights. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| These rallies over the weekend went off mostly without a hitch because the government didn't infringe on people's right to assemble as completely fucked up and stupid of an idea as it was. | ||
| I can find one story about a person in Raleigh who was arrested at a protest, and this introduces an important point. | ||
| The right to congregate or assemble is not absolute. | ||
| For instance, if you're breaking a different law at a protest, you can still be arrested. | ||
| Like, let's say you're at an anti-war demonstration and you punch someone. | ||
| You can be arrested for assault. | ||
| This happens all the time. | ||
| I just assembled my fist to their face, buddy. | ||
| That is legal. | ||
| Right to free assembly. | ||
| It's a very common thing that left-wing protesters will mention if you talk to them. | ||
| Protesters are arrested for trespassing all the time. | ||
| Some other charge, too. | ||
| This is one of the fundamental realities that people in activist communities are well aware of, and it's part of the price of doing protests. | ||
| In the context of a declared emergency, like the one we're in now, state governments do have the ability to do things that they might not have had the ability to do in other circumstances. | ||
| When there's a stay-at-home order in place from the governor, the police can arrest people who are protesting. | ||
| Not because of the assembly, but because the act of being assembled is a breach of another legal order. | ||
| So a lot of this will vary state by state, but generally speaking, you can still go protest. | ||
| But if you do, you very well might get arrested. | ||
| Your First Amendment rights are still intact, but exercising them in a way that jeopardizes community health could run the risk of getting What that is so exemplary of is the difference between right-wing and left-wing protests. | ||
| Right-wing protesters are so used to never being bothered, and left-wing protesters are like... | ||
| They kick us in the face every fucking time. | ||
| We're going to jail all the time. | ||
| They're trying to murder us. | ||
| Did you guys not know that cops are fascist and right-wing protesters are like, you guys aren't letting us hang out? | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that anybody who's been involved in any of these sorts of things know that you get arrested a bit. | ||
| Like, it's just something that will happen. | ||
| All the pictures you see of people with human chains and stuff. | ||
| It's kind of a part of the biz. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they just can't handle the idea of getting suspended from Twitter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Good guys. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Good guys. | ||
| So Alex now comes back from break and he does another comedy bit. | ||
| I mean, I gotta say, really good. | ||
| Really well conceived, well executed, good bit. | ||
| I had to kick Alex Troyer out of here earlier. | ||
| Alex Jones here back live. | ||
| He was saying terrible things about the globalists. | ||
| And then he finally got reason. | ||
| And he said, it's time for all of us to die. | ||
| To stop COVID-19 spreading, like the UN said, you have to stop breathing. | ||
| So I don't just believe we should all be given masks. | ||
| I believe they should set up voluntarily hanging centers at all the local grocery stores. | ||
| You can put it on Twitter. | ||
| And that China will promote it. | ||
| And we should all hang ourselves. | ||
| Like they said, there's too many people. | ||
| So, ceremonially, we have J.Z. Ping's spirit animal here. | ||
| J.Z. Ding Dong is here. | ||
| And look at that. | ||
| You are looking very nice, J.Z. Ping. | ||
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Actually, I represent the future babies of planet Earth and the world. | |
| So, Owen has come back with a plastic baby mask over his face, which is sort of blocking his ability to be heard clearly. | ||
| Do you mean the thing that he's supposed to be doing? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| So, it's a good bit. | ||
| Owen comes back as a baby or something. | ||
| Alex says it's Xi Jinping's spirit animal or something. | ||
| They clearly didn't work this out in the commercial break. | ||
| They're sort of working across purposes. | ||
| They don't really have a good yes and thing going. | ||
| Because Owen has just invalidated the premise that Alex has established. | ||
| So that's good. | ||
| Actually, I'm not the thing you said. | ||
| Everybody knows that no but is the best form of improv. | ||
| But I will say that they're on the same page in terms of the game. | ||
| And that is that this baby is there to kill Alex. | ||
| Alex asks baby Owen to kill him. | ||
| Will you kill me right now so I don't hurt the earth anymore? | ||
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Yes, but I just want to say that this is an example. | |
| And the future of the world, the Democrats really care about the future babies. | ||
| And so we've been sent, Alex, to come here and to kill all humans so that we can save the human race. | ||
| And you have volunteered. | ||
| Alex Jones has volunteered as tribute. | ||
| He will be the first. | ||
| Well, actually, you're going to do this while I die. | ||
| I'll be uploaded to live forever in the digital. | ||
| I'm not really being killed. | ||
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Oh, yes, of course. | |
| Great improv there. | ||
| Adding a new layer to it that I'm not actually going to be killed. | ||
| I'm going to be turned into AI. | ||
| Oh, yes, of course. | ||
| That's my plan. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| This is so bad. | ||
| This is the problem with getting good at comedy. | ||
| Part of getting good at comedy is making it seem like you're not working that hard. | ||
| True. | ||
| So people who don't realize that you have to work insanely hard to get there. | ||
| Think it's easy and you can just do it anytime you want. | ||
| Well, something that I thought was really interesting when I was listening to this and then I went and watched it was like, there have to be some people, probably not a ton, but some people who are like, this is hilarious. | ||
| Lionel gets laughs. | ||
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Does he? | |
| Not really. | ||
| I mean, there's got to be some people who think it's, like, innovative. | ||
| Like, oh my god, I can't believe Owen's wearing a baby mask. | ||
| He wore a baby mask! | ||
| I can almost understand what he's saying! | ||
| It's amazing! | ||
| So anyway, baby Owen kills Alex on air. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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You're a real hero for this, Alex. | |
| I'm ready to join Apple Heaven. | ||
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Oh, yes. | |
| Rest now, Alex. | ||
| Rest, Alex. | ||
| Good, good, good, Alex. | ||
| And so, ladies and gentlemen, as you can see, This is the future of mankind. | ||
| This is the only future if you want the future babies of the world to live. | ||
| So listen to Bill Gates and take your loving vaccine and just die. | ||
| Just die so that humans can live forever. | ||
| And until then, stay inside. | ||
| Now Alex Jones' digital hologram rises from the dead, just like we say when we summon the digital giant. | ||
| Oh, it's so wonderful. | ||
| All of you need to get up your physical bodies. | ||
| You'll be in heaven like me. | ||
| Oh, this goes on too long. | ||
| It's meandering to a certain extent. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I wish I could say I hadn't seen anything like that at a community theater before, but what are you going to do? | ||
| What's really fun for me about this is that Alex now gives up on the bit right in the middle of it. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Owen's still trying to keep moving forward, and Alex is just like, fuck it, I'm done. | ||
| But I think secretly what's going on is that Alex is jealous that Owen's wearing the mask and is the center of attention. | ||
| That's what I think is going on. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
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And I just hope that fellow Americans take from Alex Jones'leave and they just willingly die. | |
| But don't worry, we'll put your consciousness unto the system forever. | ||
| Is that really Owen Troyer behind that mask? | ||
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For free! | |
| Boy, but you're an imposter. | ||
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Say it with me. | |
| For free! | ||
| Now we're breaking the fourth wall. | ||
| We can sit here and have fun during this tyranny. | ||
| And I'm just, you know what? | ||
| I would say I'm honest with the audience, and I am. | ||
| But sometimes I hold back on stuff, so I'll just be completely honest with everybody. | ||
| Alex, I think, was jealous of Owen getting to have the fun of wearing a mask. | ||
| What that reminds me so much of is a Chicago comic who will not be named who won one show. | ||
| He was headlining. | ||
| He bombed so bad for like four minutes that he just left. | ||
| And then the host came back on. | ||
| I believe this was Matt Drafke. | ||
| And started doing well. | ||
| And then he came back on and he kicked Matt Drafke off. | ||
| This is him being like, it's not my fault I wasn't getting the laughs. | ||
| It's because of that guy wearing the baby mask. | ||
| Alex Bales on the bit. | ||
| And then wants to get right back into it as soon as he gets the mask. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I want the ball. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So anyway, the bid ends. | ||
| And they get back to Owen's Twitter situation. | ||
| And this is where the three complaints come up. | ||
| What I learned last night, that you and a bunch of other crew members were banned off Twitter. | ||
| And they said, because you're going to violate social distancing. | ||
| Imagine that level of tyranny where due process and where, before you even did it, and off. | ||
| Platform activity and the right to assemble and basic, the First Amendment's gone and it's all being overseen by the same tech companies that help police the Chinese people. | ||
| This is a crime against humanity. | ||
| This is war crimes. | ||
| So I think calling Owen getting suspended from Twitter a war crime might be a little overly dramatic. | ||
| I thought calling him a civil rights leader was overly dramatic. | ||
| That's just factually inaccurate. | ||
| This is overly dramatic. | ||
| Maybe that kind of talk hurts a person's credibility, but to be fair, Alex doesn't have much to begin with, so he's probably fine. | ||
| Alex's three complaints about Owen's suspension seem to come down to the issue of First Amendment, due process, and the question of off-platform activity. | ||
| These are all bullshit complaints. | ||
| As to the issue of the First Amendment, it doesn't apply here, so I just reject that as an argument. | ||
| In terms of due process, what rights of due process does Owen have with Twitter that are being violated? | ||
| The fundamental concept of due process relates to the state respecting a person's rights and how a person has a right to a trial before they're executed, imprisoned, or have their property seized by the state. | ||
| None of that's relevant to Twitter. | ||
| Twitter doesn't owe anyone a trial before they suspend their account. | ||
| This is just word salad Alex is throwing around. | ||
| The question of off-platform behavior is even lamer because that's not applicable at all. | ||
| If Owen were just organizing this rally and he didn't mention it on Twitter, there's a good chance he'd still have a Twitter account. | ||
| However, he mentioned it a bunch on Twitter. | ||
| Oh, and he did Periscope videos where he promoted it and went to hospitals to show that there weren't cars in front of him. | ||
| He did a ton of on-platform activity that was meant to promote his off-platform activity, which is kind of the problem here. | ||
| All three of these complaints are complete bullshit. | ||
| He's just trying to grab victimhood to wear like a cape. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, it's disgusting. | ||
| It's really, really fucking disgusting. | ||
| And these whole rallies, like, I'm really, really mad because the media is doing it all over again. | ||
| This is all made-up astroturf bullshit. | ||
| It's just tea party all over again. | ||
| We live through this with the tea party. | ||
| Just ignore them. | ||
| Every time they cover it, and they do it as though it's like... | ||
| Right-wing protesters instead of being like, these people are literally fucking astroturfed people trying to... | ||
| Or people like Alex. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's fucking ignore that. | ||
| And it's not that many people, really. | ||
| It's not, but they're making it seem like a shit ton, yeah. | ||
| But no matter what, it's too many. | ||
| It's too many, yeah. | ||
| And it's stupid. | ||
| Very stupid. | ||
| I don't know if I agree 100% that you should just ignore it, but I do think that maybe the coverage has been a little bit off. | ||
| It's been bad. | ||
| That's what I would agree with you on. | ||
| It's been really bad. | ||
| So Alex gets down to talking about his sales, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And he wants you to know, look, my sales have never been about the virus, right? | ||
| I sell my products, but it's not about the virus. | ||
| It's about... | ||
| You need food because society is going to collapse. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And it's a hoax. | ||
| And folks, I knew with China shutting down and what was coming, I said you better get ready, you better boost your immune system, you better get food for the economy shutting down. | ||
| And you should normally have your immune system boosted anyways. | ||
| I'm very glad to get folks to get vitamins and minerals they need, plus it funds the operation. | ||
| I'm totally transparent, but speak of this, I haven't even really plugged today. | ||
| We have a new product here, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Let me tell you about this. | ||
| This was planned. | ||
| Six months ago, before this even started, I said, you know, there are all these hand sanitizers that are toxic and have problems with high-quality organic alcohol and with essential oils. | ||
| Alex is getting into the hand sanitizer game. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| This has been planned for six months. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| But look, dude, the issue is that no one has a good product. | ||
| No one has that we've looked at an organic Hand sanitizer that actually leaves your hands not oily, but not dry. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| It means they're not oily, they're not dry, they're healthy, Dan. | ||
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Okay. | |
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
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Sure. | |
| They're healthy. | ||
| So they're doing the sales pitch for this hand sanitizer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they get through with it. | ||
| And then Alex is like, Owen, what's coming up on your show? | ||
| Alan, what do you have coming up in the war room today? | ||
| Well, let me just say, I will be definitely talking about these new hand sanitizers. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Most of the time, you know, first of all, you can't even find any. | ||
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But normally, you know, you try to squeeze it, right? | |
| And the whole, like, glob comes out, and then you have too much, and then it's a mess. | ||
| It's the worst. | ||
| How has nobody done this before with a spray? | ||
| With a spray? | ||
| How come no one's done it? | ||
| It's a spray? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a spray hand sanitizer? | ||
| Yeah, but spoiler alert, a whole lot of companies produce organic hand sanitizer in a spray bottle. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Off the top of the head, you have Dr. Brawner's, EO, Vegamore, Air, Primally Pure, and plenty of others. | ||
| This is only new to someone who didn't know it existed. | ||
| It's in no way an innovation. | ||
| I looked at the bottles and the ingredients of Alex's hand sanitizers. | ||
| Emmerich's Essentials. | ||
| And I would bet just about anything I own that Alex is just private labeling Dr. Bronner's hand sanitizer. | ||
| They're both packaged in almost identical two-ounce bottles, and they have identical ingredients. | ||
| Ethyl alcohol, water, essential oil, and glycerin. | ||
| Dr. Bronner's sells hand sanitizer in both peppermint and lavender scents, but they also sell a number of other soap products with eucalyptus scents, which covers the three scents that Alex has hand sanitizer in. | ||
| So it would be well within their ability as a business to create those three. | ||
| Tentatively, I would guess that Alex has just entered into a reselling agreement with Dr. Bronner's, and he wants to pretend that he's been developing this amazing hand sanitizer for six months, which I have no idea how he would even do that. | ||
| He doesn't have a fucking lab. | ||
| What are we talking about? | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| That is too, too absolutely... | ||
| I had my best scientists working on this. | ||
| My dentist father. | ||
| That's not opaque. | ||
| You know, the motivations behind that are very, very clear. | ||
| Very. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this is the end of the third hour here. | ||
| And it would be the end of the show, but Alex and Owen do a little bit at the beginning of the fourth hour. | ||
| And this would be how the show ends. | ||
| If he actually... | ||
| Let the fourth hour host have the whole fourth hour. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
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I really want to take a lot of phone calls. | |
| I got a lot of great guests coming up today, too. | ||
| And you're going to announce that you're gay today. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
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No, for David Brock. | |
| You know, I think David Brock... | ||
| I don't even want to talk about these losers anymore, honestly. | ||
| They're just... | ||
| They're Nazis. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| They're Nazis. | ||
| And he also said they're sexy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, so that's how we go out to break with playground childish insinuations that Owen is gay. | ||
| What fun! | ||
| What adults! | ||
| It is surprising. | ||
| I was amazed they made it this far without also belittling the queer community. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| They do that plenty. | ||
| And I've even heard Alex play around calling Owen gay before. | ||
| Just like... | ||
| You're calling for war with China. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What, you can't have a little fun all the way, Dan? | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| And it's not fun. | ||
| It's childish bullshit and loaded in bigotry. | ||
| Incredibly offensive. | ||
| So anyway, they come back and Owen suggests that Alex put his career on the line. | ||
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You know, Alex, they used to do career matches or retirement matches in the WWF, WWE. | |
| I think you should put your career on the line in a bare-knuckle brawl, UFC style. | ||
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Put your career on the line. | |
| All these people that want Alex Jones shut down, you can have a lineup. | ||
| You'll fight them all in a row. | ||
| Do it Royal Rumble style. | ||
| I'll join. | ||
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And until one of them puts you out... | |
| And that'll be it. | ||
| You put your career on the line. | ||
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All these people that want Alex Jones shut down, you can actually end his career. | |
| He'll put his career on the line. | ||
| I'm ready to fight. | ||
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Would you do that? | |
| Proceeds go to charity. | ||
| Let's be serious, Owen. | ||
| That's the paradox, is we get so close to absolute martial law. | ||
| Paradoxically, under a massive threat, I feel better than I've ever felt because I'm being true to myself. | ||
| That's a completely unrelated thought. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I would suggest... | ||
| Pointless to put your career on the line in a physical fight. | ||
| However, in a knowledge fight, would Alex debate a point in a formal debate? | ||
| Like some point that he has actually in a position where he can't yell. | ||
| He can't just overpower people. | ||
| He can't just talk a mile a minute and throw out all these pointless pieces of information. | ||
| Would he put his career on the line? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| No! | ||
| And if he put it on the line in a physical fight and he lost, he wouldn't stick to it. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| That is all bullshit. | ||
| But it does introduce an interesting thing, and that is that they're talking about the end of Alex's career. | ||
| You don't have a retirement match when you're in the middle of your career. | ||
| That's what you do in order to retire. | ||
| Well, that's what I'm thinking right here. | ||
| Like, Owen should sound more worried. | ||
| If Owen doesn't have all the information... | ||
| Then that would explain why he's very nonchalant here. | ||
| But Owen is not going to have a job. | ||
| If Alex goes down, it's not like Owen's going to take over Infowars and it's going to continue running. | ||
| That's not a thing. | ||
| It's not like Infowars is like CNN or something where it's like maybe the boss leaves and the institution stays. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, it's gone. | ||
| As goes Alex, so goes Infowars. | ||
| Yeah, and it's not like Troyer's going to get a job somewhere else. | ||
| The only way that Infowars survives past Alex is if Alex somehow gracefully exits with millions of dollars and a willingness to fund stuff. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I don't see that ever happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially considering that the way Alex might wind up leaving InfoWars is going to leave InfoWars bankrupt as well. | ||
| Actually, you know what? | ||
| There is a way it could work, but it would require Owen taking over and then taking a bunch of money from dark money places. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That is conceivable. | ||
| If one of these right-wing places wanted to pay millions of dollars to keep InfoWars running... | ||
| You could see that, but it would fundamentally change probably some pieces of what the show is. | ||
| InfoWars might be the only company that Spanfeller could run properly. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So you have one last clip. | ||
| And, you know, when you're talking about a retirement match, you're not in the business of staying around for very long. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And Alex ends with a pretty doom, doom sort of vibe. | ||
| And it is your funding. | ||
| You know, I sit there. | ||
| It's money that allows us to have all the lawyers. | ||
| To hold off the deep state and stuff you don't even know about as long as possible. | ||
| And we weren't supposed to be on air by now. | ||
| And it's just been money just blasted at the enemy and your prayers that's held them back. | ||
| So believe me, right now, it's always been about the victory. | ||
| But now, more than ever, with a gun to my head, it is now 100%. | ||
| And I can't tell you about the stuff right now, but let's just say they've had the carrot and now they've got the stick. | ||
| And so that's where it is right now. | ||
| And the White House knows about it. | ||
| And the White House is just cut off. | ||
| They can only put out main messages, and that's about it. | ||
| They're cut off as well. | ||
| So they had the carrot. | ||
| Now they've got the stick. | ||
| I just can't help but feel like there's a shoe he knows is going to fall. | ||
| And we'll see. | ||
| That means there is a stick. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't think he would be saying that about the Sandy Hook case, because that's not until the end of the year, if it's not even going to be postponed because of the coronavirus. | ||
| You could easily see that happening. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| There's some sort of immediate thing he refuses to discuss on air, and there's only a few possibilities that that could be. | ||
| Man, this is... | ||
| I really, really will be disappointed if he doesn't get... | ||
| Taken down by this. | ||
| Something. | ||
| Soon. | ||
| You know, like, if he escapes this one again, I'm gonna feel really despondent. | ||
| Like, there's just no... | ||
| You can't let yourself build too much assumption. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It is a little bit like, you know, you only have to win once. | ||
| So you can lose and lose and lose and lose and lose, but if you win once, it's, you know, it's done. | ||
| But, man, if he just keeps escaping this bullshit, I'm gonna be real disappointed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a failure on so many people's backs, you know? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a situation where, like, probably we'll end this week and nothing will happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But there's an outside chance that Alex could be fucked this week. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| And, I mean, no matter what... | ||
| He's not going to be on the air most of this week, probably. | ||
| I would assume he's going to be talking to lawyers. | ||
| He's got business to do. | ||
| He's got a lot of scrambling going on. | ||
| He's going to be on a workcation or something. | ||
| And so maybe we'll have some wacky Wednesday and Friday this week. | ||
| Or we'll have the best week of our lives. | ||
| That might be next week. | ||
| We might have an emergency episode of the weekend. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We're on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Not go to bed, Jordan. | ||
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| Yep. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Owen Troyer in a baby mask. | ||
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| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |