Today, Dan and Jordan replatform Alex Jones and take a look at his triumphant (?) return to his own show. In this installment, Alex threatens to overthrow the government of China, discusses his plan to flee Austin, and loses his cool so badly he has to leave his own show mid-broadcast, saying that he may not come back.
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So that's like a 25-second clip or so, and it's interesting how many different things he's asserting in that tiny span.
And they're all a problem.
The first thing is that this AP story, he's saying that it confirms that the coronavirus came out of the Wuhan Institute of Virology lab.
That is not spelled out at all in the AP story that Alex is referring to.
On April 15th, the AP released a piece titled, quote, China didn't warn public of likely pandemic for six key days.
It's mostly about how the Chinese government was likely aware of the situation being very severe, but acted to downplay it publicly in order to avoid panic.
Until there was a clear case outside of China, that is, in Thailand, and then the situation drastically changed.
Obviously, I'm not going to defend any country's attempt to minimize a public health crisis, and I'm interested to see where further reporting and investigation on this delay in China brings up.
I'm interested to see further reporting on that, and I'm open to learning more.
However, I think it's important to recognize that Alex cannot use that article to bash China, because all it's saying is that Xi did...
It is exactly what Alex is praising Trump for doing.
From that article, quote, other experts noted that the Chinese government may have waited on warning the public to stave off hysteria and that it did act quickly in private during that time.
This is literally what Alex has said Trump did, because he's an expert president or something.
Alex says that Trump declared a secret emergency way back in the early days, but downplayed the virus publicly because he didn't want to risk hurting the stock market.
The article about the virus originating in the Wuhan Institute of Virology is not from the Associated Press.
It was put out as an exclusive by Fox News and was based entirely on anonymous sources, and thus I have no ability to determine the veracity of the claims.
However, even taking this article at face value, it's important to recognize what the story on Fox News actually says.
Here are a few choice lines from the article.
Here's the opening paragraph: "There is an increase in confidence that the COVID-19 outbreak likely originated in the Wuhan laboratory, though not as a bioweapon but as a part of China's attempt to demonstrate that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are equal to or greater than the capabilities of the United States.
Multiple sources who have been briefed on the details of early actions by China's government and seen relevant material tell Fox News." Right out of the gate, we have two things.
One is that this is not factual reporting.
It's reporting an increased confidence.
You know, it's not saying this is the case.
It's saying there is an increased confidence, which could mean anything.
The second thing is that even if all of this is true, then the reporting is that this was definitely not a bioweapon, which runs counter to all of Alex's narratives about the virus.
A little later in the article, you get this line.
Quote, Sources emphasized, as is often the case with intelligence, that it's not definitive and should not be characterized as such.
Nice caveat.
Then there's this line.
Quote, Sources point to the structure of the virus in saying the genome mapping specifically shows it was not genetically altered.
Most of this article, if actually read, runs counter to most of Alex's beliefs and rhetoric surrounding the coronavirus.
All that matches is the perception that the headline promotes, which is really all Alex trades in anyway.
All the stuff he's saying in that clip is based on this Fox News story, but he's pretending it's an AP article about them getting documents proving the The virus came out of the Wuhan lab and the WHO is covering it up.
So yeah, I mean, I think that you have a pretty consistent line going on this that is like, we're already at war with China, which I don't think there is a good outcome to that sort of talk.
Absolutely not.
It seems like, should the people in charge of our country start picking up on this thread?
This is such a good example of why Alex Jones is a pile of shit and no one should take him seriously, with or without looking into anything he says.
Here, he's making a claim that runs counter to pretty much all well accepted and documented history that HIV is actually a group of diseases that the man just cooked up to cause a public health panic.
It's pretty stupid for a number of reasons.
For one, the AIDS-HIV epidemic was basically ignored for years by the government health agencies, who viewed it as something that only affected gay people, so they didn't really care.
This is not the response you'd expect from the federal government if they had cooked up the disease to cause a public panic.
That doesn't make sense.
Even beyond that, they never did roll out an HIV vaccine, so that supposed goal that Alex's imagining they had for this plan was never achieved, which seems weird.
If the problem-reaction-solution thing is true, that the globalists cause problems in order to be able to provide a solution to the reaction the problem causes in the public, then you'd think they wouldn't introduce a problem they didn't have a solution to.
This is kind of a big question mark in Alex's dumb theory, which he's too stupid to even realize is there.
Now, past all that stuff, this is the point that I want to make.
Alex is making a claim that requires evidence.
It's not something that you would call common sense or widely accepted reality.
Normally, when a competent person would want to make a claim like that, their evidence would be a study or a body of literature, possibly even just some highly credible person in the field whose work you could point to.
Alex doesn't do that.
When he makes this claim, he tosses it off as definitive and proven because his dad told him so as a child.
That's a load of shit.
And no one who's trying to do a good job would ever think that was good enough.
It also tells me that Alex has never looked into this issue at all, because if he had, he would have a better citation for his conspiracy than my super cool CIA dentist father said so when I was a kid, so it must be true.
Even if that's where this information came from, if it were real, he could make this story sound like something an adult might say by appealing to other actual sources.
But he doesn't do that because he's bad at this and he knows his audience will just accept my dad says so.
But the rollout and all of it is a hysteria and a hoax.
And notice, right as Trump and others begin to try to reopen the economy, the Democrats all announce, sorry, now you've all got to wear masks to leave your house.
And then as Trump tries to reopen, they're going to go, no, actually, you're not allowed to go to the grocery store for a week or two.
Get your food now, like Michigan's now doing, like California's set to do as soon as Trump tries to reopen.
And we have that from the state police in California.
There's some of that, and then there's also some of it.
There's like a thread that runs through it that's like, everybody was saying these really high numbers, and then now it's only tens of thousands of people dead in the United States.
And it's like the numbers aren't high enough.
They were exaggerating.
You're just playing this counterfactual game that's like, yes, those estimates were if we didn't do the things we're doing now.
And Alex refuses to accept any of that stuff, and it's all just blah, blah, blah, blah.
And the fascinating thing is I do recall a number of times people in public health positions coming out and saying things like the ultimate goal is to look like we overreacted like crazy at the end of this.
The goal is to make it look like we didn't need to do all that stuff because that will mean that we have made This play out as smoothly as possible.
And unfortunately, even if you prepare people with that expectation, like the goal is to look like we fucking overreacted, it still doesn't matter.
It still will be able to be used as like, there wasn't a problem to begin with, man!
Well, but the thing about overreacting like that, and the thing that makes me so furious when people make that dumb argument of like, the numbers aren't as high.
Is by overreacting as hard as we possibly can, we are going to save lives.
And if we overact so hard that maybe that's two or three extra people who...
Didn't need to die.
Don't die.
Like, it's that kind of situation.
And because so many people have died, they're willing to just take it as like, well, like fucking the idiot Dr. Oz, which is like, send kids back to school.
There are real people dying from this virus, just like there are real folks that die from the cold every year, and it is souped up.
But if you look at the graphs compared to other viruses, it's very weak.
It's just communicable, so everybody ends up getting it, so we're all suspect, we're all bad, we're all involved in the hysteria, and accept the new way of life, which is the technocracy.
So this is something that Alex is taking from a highly and absurdly edited video of an interview Bill Gates did with CNBC back on April 9th.
This is crucially important to understand.
Alex is saying that Bill Gates came out and said in this interview that 700,000 people would get bad side effects from the COVID-19 vaccine, which Alex says is a cover-up, and it's actually tens of millions.
Here's the actual clip from that interview that Alex is talking about.
The efficacy of vaccines in older people is always a huge challenge.
It turns out the flu vaccine isn't that effective in elderly people.
Most of the benefit comes from younger people not.
Spreading it because they're vaccinated, and that benefits on a community basis, the elderly.
Here, we clearly need a vaccine that works in the upper age range because they're most at risk of that.
And doing that so that you amp it up so it works in older people, and yet you don't have side effects.
If we have 1 in 10,000 side effects, that's...
Way more, 700,000 people who will suffer from that.
So really understanding the safety at gigantic scale across all age ranges, pregnant, male, female, undernourished, existing comorbidities, it's very, very hard.
And that actual decision of, okay, let's go and give this vaccine to the entire world, governments will have to be involved because there will be some risk and indemnification needed before that can be decided.
So in context, it's very clear that Bill Gates is talking about the challenges that come with trying to produce an effective vaccine on a massive scale.
The number that he chose was just arbitrary to describe the situation that is not good.
So what you have there is just some describing like this is a challenge in terms of a large-scale rollout of something like this.
Typically, when people discuss challenges in a process, they aren't doing so to secretly indicate that they want to fail on those challenges.
Generally, adults discussing difficulties in a process are doing so in order to give people a better understanding of what goes on in the work and what considerations experts are trying to balance.
Alex is either unable or unwilling to recognize surrounding context because that surrounding context hurts the false narratives that he's trying to push.
That's the entire game that's being played here.
And that's why if you go and find the video of this that he uses, it's like little tiny cuts of Bill Gates saying, like, the flu vaccine is not effective in elderly people.
The patriots in our government have been waiting for an awakening to have a chance to turn this around and fix it.
But they need us to have courage and they need us to not freak out when Trump comes out and says, okay, traitors in our government transferred the weapons to China.
They hit us with them.
They did this to take us down, but we're arresting all these people, and they're going to get tried, and it's okay.
We're open for business again.
We're not going to go to war with China, but we're going to shut off economic operations with them, and if they want to launch another bioattack, we're going to have to have a war with them because we're already there.
So the entire conception of the QAnon world is that there are patriots fighting the deep state inside secretly.
And then this Q fellow, he's been tasked with disseminating clues and information which would cause the Great Awakening so that the masses of enlightened people wouldn't be freaked out when the storm came and Trump arrests all his deep state enemies.
Who are fighting the deep state need people like Alex to disseminate this information so the public won't freak out when Trump comes out and says, I've arrested all the Chinese secret agents.
The only function of rhetoric like this, the only thing it serves is to prepare an audience to accept an authoritarian ruler.
All it does is recontextualize power grabs and power consolidation as the dear leader striking back against the evil forces who work in the shadows.
So you come to love your new king.
The whole, you know, we're being trained to not freak out when the executive of the federal government does things that look a whole lot like the things a dictator would do.
That line is not something you would have expected Alex to get to.
So Alex is thrilled that Trump is secretly arresting all these people and he's wearing his little Q hat and that's fun.
But he's not.
Trump is saying to kill people.
He needs to be very clear about this because it sounds like the logical extension of a lot of things that he says should be like, hey, go kill some people.
Yeah, I can't think of any situation where a leader of a country creating what are essentially going to be death squads, preferably with Blackwater's involvement.
You better be ready with guns and ammo if the president doesn't make the right moves and we go into a civil war that the globalists want.
You've got to be ready with the patriot governors and others.
If the globalists get the federal government, then we'll have another original type civil war.
This isn't even a civil war.
This is just idiots that don't know that there's a war going on who join with Chinese globalist propaganda against their own interests in their own country.
I don't know what you call this.
Just a bunch of collaborator morons trying to sabotage their own country for a horrible authoritarian state that's killed 100 million people?
Chimera insertion points on it so that it could be mutated rapidly by the chi-coms and mixed in with the bats, who were then ground up and fed to piglets.
I need a citation on any of that because that doesn't match up with stuff I was able to find, and I think he's just making shit up.
I think Alex just read a headline about a recent preliminary study that theorized that dogs might have been an intermediary species between humans and bats in the chain of the virus, but honestly, that study has been roundly rejected by scientists who have looked at it and said the data in it does not support the conclusion that is being...
So the thing that he's talking about, about the bats being fed to pigs thing, that we're fed to more pigs?
That's from a Daily Mail article about some research that is alleged to have been being done at the Wuhan lab.
So there is something that he's basing this on, but he's still adding this layer of then fed to dogs and saying that this is the genesis of the coronavirus is not...
The available information doesn't support that, but the way he's presenting it makes it sound like a child.
Although what he's doing is taking little disparate pieces of things that aren't connected and then connecting them.
Alex is just making that stuff up about the Indian University having funding threatened if they didn't retract a preliminary, unpeer-reviewed study about the coronavirus.
This is just what he needs to believe because he can't possibly build the narratives that he's building if he has to concede that the research behind that study was flawed and it didn't stand up to the scrutiny of other researchers.
He can't deal with reality and keep his narrative, so he has to make up his own story to explain why the study was retracted that doesn't threaten the fiction that he needs to use to sell his shit.
More interestingly, though, is this claim that India is now saying that China released the virus on purpose.
That's not true.
However, there is something real here that Alex is lying about.
In March, a member of the Indian Parliament named Manish Tawari was posting around on social media about how China had released the virus as an attack.
This was discussed in an article in the South China Morning Post about how India was seeing an uptick in conspiracy theory around the virus, with much of it drifting into some fairly racist territory.
If that was the case with Tiwari's comments, I'm not sure.
But the larger picture of the misinformation landscape in India was one of direct xenophobia and bigotry.
I'm going to need a better reference than that, but Alex doesn't provide any.
So as it stands, it seems like this is just another thing Alex is fabricating because he's a liar.
Everything I know about Alex leads me to believe, yes, absolutely, you want that.
You want a war with something.
And constantly, whether it's our own government or China, you'll take whatever it is, whatever manifestation of awful communists you can come up with, you want that war.
If you were around in the Cold War, you would have been like, let's make it hot.
I assume there's more to the story than Alex is bringing up, and I think he's making stuff up about this, what would it be, family member who has exiled this other...
And I wonder if I'm being too hasty in my assumption that it's Rob Du, but I don't think there are many people who have been there 18 years other than him.
The World Health Organization has plenty of room for criticism, and I think that when we have the gift of hindsight, it will be an interesting process to review how things were done, you know, to find places where there's room for improvement on how international responses are handled in regards to international crises.
That said, the documents Alex is referring to have nothing to do with the World Health Organization cover-up of the virus.
And this is honestly just the latest in the Trump cult's desperate attempt to divert attention from their dear leader's failings to handle the situation responsibly back when it could have made a huge difference.
I'm not particularly interested in this at this point.
However, when there's more information and a clearer picture, I'm open to revisiting the World Health Organization response in a more holistic fashion.
For now, all the stuff I can find that goes this direction is just clearly partisan attacks being used to defend Trump from well-deserved criticism.
So the leader, or the head of the World Health Organization, Tedros, he was a part of the cabinet in Ethiopia as the Minister of Foreign Affairs, previous to his position in the World Health Organization.
He was in an administration run by the EPRDF, or the Ethiopian People's Revolutionary Democratic Front.
This was a coalition of four different parties, and it was actually dissolved in 2019.
Regardless, it should be noted that the EPRDF rose to power in Ethiopia in the early 90s.
And you know how they rose to power?
The People's Democratic Republic of Ethiopia, which was the communist-run state as it existed at the time, was overthrown.
Because there were a coalition of four different parties, it's kind of challenging to nail down the exact character of the EPRDF, but it's a little reductive to just call them communists.
I know that's how Alex would see them, so whatever.
It's not really worth arguing, but it does deserve pointing out that this is an elementary level understanding of the politics that go on in other countries.
Whatever atrocities might have taken place during the Ethiopian Civil War or the Eritrean War of Independence, it's pretty well accepted that a large number of them were carried out by the existing Ethiopian government who the EPRDF were against.
It's not to minimize any of the things that do happen during wars, but I don't think that Tedros was involved in bombing any churches.
And also, because of the reality of how dangerous mass gatherings can be during this time that we're in, you doing things like this only makes it more likely that you will see the authoritarian crackdown or the optics of it that you are prophesying and so afraid of.
It's just, it's a self-perpetuating nonsense machine.
Our economy reopening, saying corporations in an alliance with blue states and cities under the UN direction.
Will not open until the UN says so.
So Trump goes after the head of the UN because that's a globalist who's been caught covering up the bioweapon release and trying to get the Chinese into the country when they had it to spread it to do this.
But because Trump ignored what they said and ignored the federal judges and blocked the Chinese coming in, it was much less.
And now they don't have the big death toll these dirty filthies wanted, do they?
the scum.
That guy shouldn't be fired.
He should be arrested on war crimes of bioweapons.
And after he's convicted, hang his ass by the neck until dead.
And I want to go overthrow China and hang Xi Jinping's ugly ass as well.
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I've not ever gone out and gotten a piece of property or gotten ready, even though I knew it was needed, because I've been on so much on the offense, and I still think we're going to win this fight.
But the last few weeks, I knew all this was coming.
And I've got to do it for my children.
And I just can't be in Austin during this type of stuff.
And so in case they're able to have the full shutdown of the economy happen and beyond even depression, I went ahead and talked to some family and had some property and stuff and have gone and helped get that ready and everything and have got that stocked up and prepared.
So for the first time ever, I have had to actually move into defense mode and prepare a retreat.
So that clip sounded really interesting to me because as he's in the middle of this plug for his storable foods, Alex is drifting off into this whole thing about how he's gotten this redoubt going outside of town because that's just how serious things have gotten in the last few weeks.
And he's not a general.
He's a talk show host.
So he's getting ready to evacuate.
That's weird because he constantly talks about how he's a general.
He's the first to hit the barbed wire.
If they destroy him, they destroy him.
It doesn't seem like it is in his nature to...
Be like, hey, you know, sometimes it's time to evacuate.
I'm just a talk show host.
All I do is talk shit.
No, that's counter to the entire ethos of Alex's thing.
I mean, it must be a coincidence that at the end of last week, Alex got a very stern warning letter from the FDA telling him in no uncertain terms that the way he was marketing his products was in a way that was, quote, intended to mitigate, prevent, treat, diagnose, or cure COVID-19 in people, which, according to them, makes them drugs, not supplements.
This letter is very clear, and it points out specific instances of Alex going past the line in his sales pitches.
And it gives him 48 hours to get in contact with them and describe, quote, the specific steps you have taken to correct these violations.
Include an explanation of each step being taken to prevent the recurrence of violations, as well as copies of related documentation.
Failure to immediately correct the violations cited in this letter may result in legal action, including, without limitation, This letter is very clear.
This letter is explicit that if Alex doesn't reach out to them and show how he's correcting his actions, the FDA might fuck around and seize his products.
Later in the letter, they further say that failure to operate in line with the FTC Act may result in legal action seeking a federal district court injunction and an order may require that you pay back money to customers.
The FDA could make Alex refund all of the sales of his silver products and possibly others if he was found to be selling them inappropriately, which could completely destroy his business.
So it's got to be a coincidence that he got that letter, then he was gone from his show for three days of the next week, and then he comes back mysteriously.
He isn't promoting his medically dubious products.
And one of the things that makes me think that this is a little bit more sincere than other times is he comes back in after talking about this stuff and he seems to be completely freaking out.
It's like when you're listening to a comedy album and you can totally see that there's a visual bit because you can hear everybody start laughing and you don't know why.
I literally pull off the side of the road and just pray to God to have me at peace because I'm not afraid.
And I don't feel sorry for myself.
I'm really angry.
More angry than I've ever been.
That this is so ridiculously obvious.
A bioweapon launched by the deep state against America to stop our recovery and to stop getting our country back and to bring in forced inoculations and medical tyranny.
We read so much stuff and are all totally loaded before we come on the show with information, and then you're so pissed that it's hard to even operate.
If you have prepared for hours and you're fully ready to go, make all your points, and then you're unable to because you get mad, that means your eyes are not on the prize.
But there's some little things that he brings up that are like, whoa, that's strange.
And one of them is he's talking about that gentleman, the professor at Harvard, Charles Lieber, who got arrested for lying about his involvement with the Chinese recruitment program.
And it's interesting.
I don't really care about a whole lot of the stuff that they have to say, but David Knight makes one claim, and I think it's super important.
I don't care to get into the nitty-gritty details about the Charles Lieber situation since we touched on it on a previous episode, and from everything I can tell, it has nothing to do with the current virus situation.
I wanted to play that clip to demonstrate how everyone at Infowars plays fact games.
Lieber was not arrested and charged with espionage.
According to a press release from the Department of Justice, he was, quote, arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statement.
There's a difference here, and it's an edge that dum-dums like Alex and David Knight like to play both sides of.
I can see this case and think that the reason that Lieber made this false statement to investigators is because he was doing something that he didn't want them to know about.
That's the most likely explanation, but that doesn't rise to the level of espionage, and he wasn't charged with espionage.
Infowars wants it to be an espionage situation, so they just say that it is.
Conversely, consider the case of Roger Stone.
Some of the things he was charged with were lying to investigators.
Obviously, he was doing that to cover for something he didn't want them to know about, but Infowars doesn't want that to be their situation there, so in that case, they pretend that lying to investigators is a bullshit charge, and that's just how you jam someone like Roger up.
They want it both ways because they don't operate in reality.
This is a purely narrative-advancing, money-making operation, and little things like that really show how it's just something that's in the DNA of how this business runs.
David Knight's supposed to be the boring, scholarly one around here.
And here he is, lying about what Charles Lieber was arrested and charged with, because it suits the narrative better.
And when we look at, we just had an Israeli mathematician, a former general, come out and say, I reported this today.
He said, it doesn't matter what you do.
He's looked at all the different countries, and he says, whether you go total draconian or you do nothing at all, it lasts for about 40 days at 70 days.
So, this is about a man named Isaac Ben Israel, who has recently come out and claimed that no matter what you do, there's just this progression that the virus takes in every country, and that you can't justify shutting down economies because it won't make a difference.
His comments and analysis have received a whole lot of blowback, ranging from, you don't understand epidemiology, to, what about the localized data in places like New York and around Italy that seem to contradict your conclusions?
From what I can tell, this perspective is not one that's widely respected by anyone in the medical community, nor anyone in the public health world.
Also, one of the reasons to focus more on the current day situation than things that have happened in the past is that whatever the death toll is from the plague outbreak, the bubonic plague way back when, can't really do anything about it.
Minimize the amount of deaths that end up coming from it, and you can make it so it never gets to the point where it's a plague of justinane that history remembers, and Alex knows everything about for sure.
I feel like the point he's trying to make is one he's making by accident, which is people in the past were dumb, and people who are telling us not to get another plague are smart.
I believe it's in this clip, but the reality of what happened is that the people weren't able to take as many orders because there was an increased demand that Alex and all of these other ding-dongs had artificially created.
So there was this increased demand, and in order to supply what they needed to, My Patriot Supply opened up multiple other...
Sure, sure.
So in the period when they were getting these up and running, they weren't able to take as many orders.
I love that he's talking about how they're so trustworthy and that's how Alex operates because the first thought I had was like, diamond gussets, random jeans.
Because if he were smart, that's what he would do.
He'd be like, you know, the Antifa people now that Soros isn't trying to mix things up at rallies.
He needs to use them for something.
And so they formed hit teams ready to take out the Patriots at a moment's notice because they want to bring in their fucking communism, blah, blah, blah.