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April 13, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#419: Disease Denial and Vampire Affirmation

Today, Dan and Jordan deplatform Alex Jones from their podcast as punishment for him being a huge disappointment. Instead of talking about him, they check in on what Sweary Kerry at Project Camelot has been saying about how things are going with the coronavirus. It turns out nothing might be real, and we may have some side-concerns that the CDC is definitely not equipped to handle.

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dan friesen
50:30
j
jordan holmes
22:06
k
kerry cassidy
25:23
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alex jones
00:46
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot this week?
dan friesen
Well, my bright spot for today is somewhat aspirational.
Because it doesn't exist yet.
It hasn't existed.
It may never exist, but I intend to.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I realized, sitting around a little bored, that I have never made lasagna.
jordan holmes
You've never made lasagna?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Okay!
I think that's fine.
dan friesen
And I realized that it's within my ability to do that.
jordan holmes
Is it?
dan friesen
I just need a pan.
jordan holmes
Yes.
You need all of the necessary ingredients.
dan friesen
Well, the ingredients.
Yes, that's simple enough.
You can go to the store and get those.
But I don't have the right pan.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I can go get one of those pans.
jordan holmes
It can be done.
dan friesen
It seems like such a pie-in-the-sky kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Making lasagna?
dan friesen
Make a lasagna?
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Honestly, it's never occurred to me to do.
dan friesen
It seems like something.
I like lasagna quite a bit.
I think it's a delicious food.
But it always seemed like...
I could never do that.
I've decided I can do it.
jordan holmes
You can!
dan friesen
So I'm planning to at some point.
So that's my bright spot.
jordan holmes
It will be done.
dan friesen
Imagining eventually that I will make a lasagna.
jordan holmes
First, to make a lasagna, you have to visualize making a lasagna.
And I think that makes perfect sense.
I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
The Final Fantasy VII Remake, Dan!
dan friesen
Yeah, you've been looking forward to this for quite a while.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, I've been looking at this for five years, Dan!
Five years!
They announced it in 2015 and I played it and it's fucking incredible.
dan friesen
I saw on your...
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
Uh-huh.
Literally sucking life out of the planet.
dan friesen
Alright.
Okay.
That sounds interesting.
It's a game that I would like to play because it's one of those games that everybody who is really interested in video games will tell you ad nauseum how great it is.
And I've never played any of the Final Fantasy games.
So it seems like that's something I should give a shot at some point.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's...
dan friesen
I might.
I might not.
We'll see after this lasagna.
jordan holmes
It's amazing just because...
Everything was in, all the backgrounds were in 2D.
And so now you're going through and you're actually walking through as if you're walking into one of these, you know, like Wall Market where you win a dance competition in order to get a dress for your main character to wear in order to deceive a guy who's...
Obsessed with perving on women, essentially.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And all that stuff, like walking in and looking at it in 3D.
I swear to God, I didn't even need the game.
If they just had all of those layouts that you could walk through.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'd just walk through there and stare around the whole time.
dan friesen
New art concept.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's amazing.
dan friesen
That would be great.
So good.
So yeah, Final Fantasy 7 and Lasagna Aspirations.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think both are great.
dan friesen
Cool.
So, Jordan, we've got an interesting episode to go over today, but before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
Sounds good.
So first, Matthew, thank you so much.
You're now a policy walk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Matthew.
dan friesen
Next, RJ.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, RJ.
dan friesen
Thank you, RJ.
Next, Jessica.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Jessica.
dan friesen
Next, the prophet of the grift.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, the prophet of the grift.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Big Easy Blasphemy.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Big Easy Blasphemy.
dan friesen
Yes, thank you.
And thank you, Brandon.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Brandon.
dan friesen
Thank you, Brandon.
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first, John, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Daniel, great name.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare...
Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, John, and thank you so much, Daniel.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it, or you could find a charity in your area to support people who are in need.
jordan holmes
Yes, we would be happy if you did either.
dan friesen
Speaking about happy things, Jordan, I would also like to take a little moment before we get going in this episode proper to pass along a special announcement from one of our listeners out there.
Chris got in touch with me and he wanted me to share with the wide wonk community out there the announcement of the birth of a new child into this world.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
So Magdalena Pearl Newt, we would like to say congratulations on joining the world and welcome.
I don't know how one does...
jordan holmes
Rough time.
Rough time to join the world, but I think you're doing great.
dan friesen
It could only get better from these circumstances.
Maybe, hopefully.
I hope your first birthday is better for the world.
I don't know how to do a birth announcement entirely.
I don't know what form they normally take, but congratulations, Chris.
And I hope you and your family are all very happy and doing great.
jordan holmes
Yes, congratulations, Chris.
dan friesen
So I want to say also, I wanted to apologize about the last week.
Some of the episodes, I could feel myself not caring.
I could feel myself.
And you know what?
I sat with those feelings.
I reflected on what was going on.
And I think a huge part of it is I was starting to get mad at Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was really starting to get pissed off at him because a lot of this stuff is really boring bullshit.
The stakes are pretty high.
And it's tough to watch him manipulate people for the reasons that he's doing it in real time.
While there is an actual event in the world happening that affects people.
It's not abstract in the way so many of his lies often are.
It's very real, and it's a bummer.
It's not fun.
And then on top of that, everything is a disappointment.
He gets a DUI, and he just lies about it.
He gets a letter from the New York Attorney General to give him a cease and desist.
He just lies about it.
He gets a letter from the FDA at the end of last week, and I'm sure just lies about it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Everything is just like, who cares?
He says he's going to reveal QAnon.
He doesn't do it.
Pretends he didn't.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
There's no payoff to anything, and I was just getting to a point where I was actually mad at him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this show doesn't really work.
It's not really fun when I'm mad at him.
It's just out of balance.
It's a coy on a Scotsy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My job is to be mad at him.
And I have been pretty much since we started this.
Almost from the first instant.
dan friesen
That's okay.
That's good.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's my job.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
My job is to take a more academic approach to it, you know, the scholarly distance of judgment.
jordan holmes
Of course!
Of course!
Now I'm mad at you for stealing my job!
This is the way of bosses, you know?
dan friesen
I don't know exactly why that was happening, and, you know, we could talk all day about, you know, what's going on, but I decided that, you know what, fuck it.
I gotta put Alex in timeout.
If I'm mad at him, we can't be around each other for a bit.
jordan holmes
I think that's smart.
dan friesen
We just gotta...
See what happens when we revisit it.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And I have seen in the real world that deplatforming has a certain amount of effectiveness.
You know, when you're mad at a propagandist, knock him off your platform.
unidentified
Knock him out!
jordan holmes
Get him out of here!
dan friesen
So I'm going to deplatform Alex from our show today.
jordan holmes
I think I like that.
dan friesen
And I will be doing something entirely different.
kerry cassidy
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
jordan holmes
Hi, Carrie!
kerry cassidy
I just wanted to give an update today to go over some of the things that are going down around us and talk about...
What's really happening?
dan friesen
So, today, we are going over two videos that Carrie put out last week.
unidentified
Okay, all right.
dan friesen
Carrie Cassidy over at Project Camelot has some news about the fucking coronavirus.
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
So, we're going to go over this, and there's a couple things that I want to highlight.
One, some of these theories are pretty out there.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
unidentified
Two...
dan friesen
A lot of the stuff that she believes is exactly what Alex believes.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So I want those two things to mingle in your mind, and I want you to recognize that the theories that Alex talks about are right at home on Project Camelot, and the sort of discourse that he brings into the world deserves as much respect as some of the...
Wacky nonsense that Carrie says.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Explain to me how interdimensional space beings who are evil controlling things and also literal Satan is real and that's how we're dying every day?
That seems to belong on Project Camelot.
dan friesen
That is what she says, and it's also what Alex says.
jordan holmes
Well, then there we go!
dan friesen
Exactly.
Now, one of the things that's really interesting, so we're starting on the first report.
This is from the 7th, so I believe that was last Tuesday, I think.
I think it was Tuesday and Wednesday.
Yeah, these reports came out.
The first one is, yeah, what's going on in the world?
What's happening?
And one of the things that's great about Carrie is that she has no...
Sort of piccadillos about admitting that she...
Has terrible sources.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, she thinks they're great sources.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But she'll say who these people are.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then you can be like, oh, no.
Whereas Alex will be like, fake lieutenant colonel told me this.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
You can't trace that down.
There's nowhere to go.
jordan holmes
Alex is disguising his bullshit sources, whereas Carrie is out and proud about them.
dan friesen
She's imagining they're great.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so right at the jump, at the beginning of this report, we hear that Carrie knows somebody who's basically figured out a cure.
kerry cassidy
I just interviewed Andreas Kalker, who has basically a cure for the world.
So it's similar to what Trump is trying to put out there, which is an old cure for malaria.
But as Andreas explains, it contains chlorine as one of its main...
But in that case, it has tonic water, which is bad for the heart.
So this remedy that Andreas Kalker is talking about is actually water and chlorine, as I understand it, but it's done in a certain way.
And you can go to his website, which is andreaskalker.com.
dan friesen
For those of you who aren't picking up on what Carrie is saying there, this is her promoting a guy who's telling people to drink bleach as a cure for the coronavirus.
jordan holmes
Everybody, get to your Publix pool and drink up, and then we'll all be safe.
dan friesen
So, Andreas Kalker is not a doctor.
He has a degree supposedly titled, quote, Doctor of Philosophy in Alternative Medicine and Natural Biophysics.
jordan holmes
That's totally from a real university.
dan friesen
It is.
It's from the Open University of Advanced Studies, Incorporated.
It's always good when you have the Incorporated at the end.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Gotta have the Incorporated.
dan friesen
I have a degree from the University of Missouri, Incorporated.
I mean, I guess it is Incorporated, but it wouldn't be in the name.
Anyway, that's not a good sign.
I checked out their website, and I am not confident that this is anything other than a diploma mill, which makes sense for Project Camelot Associate.
jordan holmes
It does.
dan friesen
Anyway, Andreas Kalker is a big anti-vax guy who got his book pulled from Amazon last year in their sweep of kicking off books that advocate drinking bleach to quote-unquote cure autism.
He's a real unreliable and dangerous source of health information, but he's able to pretend that he's speaking from a place of authority and expertise because of his fake doctorate degree.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
Which makes it funny that the landing page for the Open University in Advanced Studies, Inc.
is not about their wonderful educational programs or about the history of the school.
It's a disclaimer that starts, quote, Open University of Advanced Sciences clarifies that it does not maintain any type of link with the Genesis 2 church, nor does it advocate the medical or therapeutic use of MMS.
MMS is the Miracle Mineral Solution, which is just the fun brand name for a bleach product these Dum Dums sell for people to drink as a miracle cure.
The Genesis 2 Church is run by Jim Humble, the guy who invented MMS, who is a former Project Camelot guest.
If I understand the situation correctly, he knows that it's illegal to advise people to drink bleach, but he can plead religious intolerance if he makes drinking bleach part of the sacrament of his made-up church.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Along with Alex Jones, the Genesis 2 church were among the recipients of letters from the FDA at the end of last week about their coronavirus scams.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
That sounds right.
unidentified
Yup.
jordan holmes
You know, if you have to have a disclaimer right out the gate, that says to me that it's the opposite that's true.
dan friesen
On your college?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, it's because Andreas Kolker is one of the main people who uses his degree from this place as a credential.
And so, of course, they're associated with him by virtue of, like, we sold him the fucking degree.
Yeah, so they have to do that.
jordan holmes
That's really disappointing.
You know, when you wanted to scam people way back when, you had to fake your own degree.
You had to have some graphic design work.
dan friesen
You had to take a little class in calligraphy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you got a little pen knife that scrapes off seals and puts them back on.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was far more respectable.
jordan holmes
Now it's just type it up and Xerox it?
That's a bummer.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a real bummer.
dan friesen
But look, dude, so anyway, she wants people to drink bleach, I guess.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
Sure.
But look, that's not good.
It's a bad thing to do.
jordan holmes
No, it is a bad idea.
dan friesen
Except Carrie's done it and it's great.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
kerry cassidy
Since it is curing doctors in Spain and...
I've used it myself.
Myself and my ex-partner, Bill Ryan, and I came back from Russia, had a virus back in those days.
This is over 10 years ago, maybe around 12 years ago.
And we interviewed Bariska, the boy from Mars, as he's called.
We came back to Switzerland.
We had a virus we couldn't get rid of for two weeks.
Finally took MMS.
Someone told us about it, that Jim Humble was marketing at the time, and it cured us in two days.
So that is an indication that this flu-like situation can definitely be handled by this new version of MMS, which is what Andreas Kolker is talking about.
dan friesen
I gotta say, case closed.
I mean, I think the science is in.
jordan holmes
How dare you believe him when he says he has a new version?
How dare you?
dan friesen
It's slightly mixed differently.
jordan holmes
It's the same fucking thing.
dan friesen
I am certain it's almost exactly the same.
jordan holmes
Brutal!
Brutal!
dan friesen
Now, there is a strain of science denial that goes through this.
I might not have decided to do this episode.
I might have done an episode about something else for today while Alex is being too platformed.
But there is...
A reveal of some beliefs that Carrie has that are shocking in the level of reality denying.
I'm talking about someone who believes that raptors come to Earth to antique.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's not hard.
dan friesen
This is a shocking level of denial of reality.
A lot of it does circle around the...
What would you call it?
The medical aspect of the coronavirus.
Just on a baseline level, bleach is better than medicine.
kerry cassidy
He's been doing some tests, and the doctors are all coming in healed after two days of taking it.
So take your chances if you want to die.
jordan holmes
Do not take your chances.
kerry cassidy
Conventional medicine.
Then go ahead.
But the bottom line is that this is actually...
Quite possibly, going to cure the world.
dan friesen
Quite possibly, drinking bleach water is going to cure the world.
jordan holmes
You know, it's so hard not to have a brief moment.
Because she says it so confidently, I do have a brief moment of like, maybe bleach would help?
I don't know.
And then I'm immediately like, oh, that's right.
God, why does that happen?
She says it so confidently.
dan friesen
Take your chance with conventional medicine and probably die.
Or drink bleach water and live.
jordan holmes
That's a real false dichotomy right there.
dan friesen
No.
So, you know, you got that choice in front of you, which you think is false.
But Carrie wants Trump to make the right decision.
jordan holmes
And drink bleach!
I agree with her.
I agree with her.
I would like Trump to drink MMS to an extent that is absolutely unheard of.
dan friesen
That's not what she's saying.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
She's saying that this needs to become like government policy.
kerry cassidy
There are solutions to the problems we have.
All you have to do is listen to the people.
As opposed to the so-called experts out there.
jordan holmes
Disagree.
kerry cassidy
And so if our president will get wise and do the same thing, then we will get out of this situation we're in very quickly.
dan friesen
Trump just needs to listen to the bleach people.
jordan holmes
Why the fuck would you listen to the people who haven't spent their entire life studying epidemiology?
dan friesen
Listen to the bleach people.
jordan holmes
What kind of moron listens to the people?
dan friesen
Listen to the bleach people.
jordan holmes
I will listen to the people when they're like...
We're starving!
But I'm not going to listen to the people when I've got an epidemiologist over here who's like, this is what you need to do.
And then the people are like, drink bleach!
The people are good.
But not epidemiologists.
dan friesen
The bleach people?
jordan holmes
The bleach people are not good.
dan friesen
The bleach people will save us.
jordan holmes
The bleach people will not save us.
Just drink cyanide.
Fine.
Whatever you want.
Believe it.
dan friesen
I can't take a flippant approach to it because she has people who are listening to her.
I know.
It's not just advice that exists in a vacuum.
People are being told this by someone who pretends to know what they're talking about.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's really dangerous.
jordan holmes
That's so scary because there's a part of me that just wants to be like...
At some point in time, you have to have personal agency.
And if you drink bleach, that's on you.
You are the person who decided to drink bleach.
I also think the person who told you to drink bleach is evil as fuck.
dan friesen
I don't think that those are conflicting thoughts.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I think that there's room for responsibility in many corners.
Alex doesn't advocate people drink bleach, although he does drift into unproven medical stuff quite regularly, especially as it relates to this.
Between the hydroxychloroquine pushing like crazy, the new one, the ivermectin, the horse paste.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Just plain old zinc.
dan friesen
Just do zinc.
Yeah.
So, you know, you see a sort of similarity and a difference there.
But I think in this next clip, you really see, like, almost complete overlap.
kerry cassidy
Now, needless to say, they're doing it on purpose.
jordan holmes
Needless to say.
dan friesen
The virus, that is.
kerry cassidy
There are plenty of people out there talking about how big pharma will benefit from vaccinating everyone, getting your DNA at the same time, and shooting you up with, what is in essence, nano dust that will track you and everything you do from then on.
unidentified
Sure.
kerry cassidy
For the rest of your life.
unidentified
Nano dust.
kerry cassidy
And also hook you up to 5G and the AI, the planetary AI, the Borg mind.
jordan holmes
Will I get better service?
kerry cassidy
The hive mind.
So this is, in part, a plot that is put forth by the ETs that are backing the dark side.
And this is a dark side rollout, by the way.
This is not what Trump is doing.
dan friesen
It's the globalists.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
I didn't realize...
dan friesen
Almost all of that is exactly what Alex says.
jordan holmes
I didn't realize that Darth Maul was behind this one, but...
dan friesen
Totally.
Turns out...
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
She has an expert who's told her that Darth Maul is in play.
So, I mean, you see that, and you've just got to recognize, like...
These are similar shows.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
It's not that different.
And the things that are very similar are things that relate to things that matter in the real world.
jordan holmes
In the real world is where a huge issue is.
dan friesen
The differences are in, uh, Carrie says, really stupid shit about nonsense that doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
Raptors are coming down and killing everybody.
Not on Alex Jones' show.
Take this miracle drug.
On Alex's show.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Be afraid of vaccines because they just want to take your genetic material and put you into an AI grid.
That's the same as Alex.
That is like...
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I like nanodust.
dan friesen
Nanodust.
In this next clip, Alex...
Alex.
Carrie has a Freudian slip.
Yeah, quite.
So she has a list here of ways that you could tell if Trump...
Is actually doing bad.
Like if he's turned bad.
jordan holmes
Oh, at the outside.
Looking out your window.
Is that one of the ways you can tell if he's doing bad?
dan friesen
Certain things that he could do or not do that would tell you if this is like a limited hangout situation.
And I want to pay attention to this list because this list is unattainable.
You're setting up a list of circumstances that we'll never attain.
Almost none of these probably will ever or could ever happen.
jordan holmes
I know for a fact that one of them has to be him saying, why don't we let the virus wash over America?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's not in there?
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I feel like that one's...
dan friesen
No.
kerry cassidy
So how will we know that Trump, QAnon, and the military that's working with Trump, and not all the military are, by the way?
dan friesen
Also, I should point this out.
This might be not something we've talked about a ton, but Carrie is pretty into QAnon.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't she?
dan friesen
She makes it a little bit clearer when she's not talking to a guest, like when she's just sitting there talking by herself.
kerry cassidy
Yeah.
dan friesen
But she's pretty into QAnon.
kerry cassidy
I believe.
Whether their plan's been foiled and whether they're working as a limited hangout or whether they're the real thing.
So first of all, the 5G gets rolled out in the U.S. and there's no fail-safe protection for the people against its radiation and harmful effects.
If that happens, again, this is number one, we will know that Trump is under control of some group and that group is negative.
Number two, vaccines become mandatory for travel and in general.
Number three, with the rollout of the new financial system, people find that their money is worth less.
jordan holmes
Inflation is the sign?
kerry cassidy
Four, there is no visible dent in child trafficking and pedophilia.
Number five, there is no sign of the arrests or trials for those arrested.
So if none of that goes public.
And six, the censorship going on right now in alternative media continues and YouTube is not reined in and continues to censor those of us telling the truth.
So these are some fail-safe ways of determining if Trump is the real thing.
dan friesen
So these are all things that you can tell.
These fail to happen, then Trump isn't the real thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
None of those things will ever happen.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
There is zero chance.
Like, you will always end up in the conclusion that Trump is not for real.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah, that's a real odd set of criteria to judge the guy you think is the good guy.
dan friesen
Some of them are kind of things that you could just do whatever you want with.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Like with the trafficking, the human trafficking stuff.
Like you could find ways to make all sorts of like prostitution arrests.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, inflate the numbers and be like Trump is taking out all the, you know, whatever.
You could do that if you wanted to make that one come true.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But like five...
5G is probably going to happen in a more expanded form.
Trump is going to be not real, according to you there.
Vaccines are not probably going to become mandatory, but they are going to be mandatory in the same way that they are now.
And that's going to be a problem for you because you hate vaccines.
So you will call that mandatory, therefore Trump is not real.
jordan holmes
So we're 0 for 2. Then just inflation.
Unless Trump stops inflation forever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That one's ludicrous.
Makes no sense.
What was the next one?
jordan holmes
Let's see.
We've already got the no bump.
If he hides indictments for the people who are or if he hides trials and shit.
dan friesen
If we don't see all the trials for the globalists and Soros and all them who are being wrapped up by QAnon.
Right.
jordan holmes
Not gonna happen.
Most of those people are kind of his friends.
dan friesen
Trump's going to be shown to be fake for you there.
And then the last one, the social media censorship.
Great.
That's not going to happen either.
jordan holmes
No, no chance.
Trump is not going to get you back on YouTube.
dan friesen
No, but also you see a lot of that has tons of thematic parallel with what Alex believes Trump needs to do.
The things that he thinks Trump isn't doing that he wants him to do are things like fight 5G, get rid of vaccines, get me back on Twitter.
Yep.
Arrest my political enemies.
Almost all of that.
unidentified
And I assume going back to the gold standard would be inflation, right?
jordan holmes
Something along those lines.
dan friesen
Or destroy the Federal Reserve.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Almost everything that has a concrete connection with something that does exist that isn't an alien has a connection with Alex.
And that's why you need to understand that people who believe these sorts of same theories also might believe something like this.
Now, the beaches are closed in Malibu.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now, that could be a situation where...
jordan holmes
Portals.
dan friesen
I mean, who knows?
Maybe portals.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It could be a situation where the county, Los Angeles County, decided that, hey, we can't take the risk.
People are not being responsible around the country where beaches are not closed.
They're all still congregating in large groups, and it's too big of a risk to the body politic.
We just need to close these public spaces.
jordan holmes
That's what happens when you don't listen to the people, Dan.
They're listening to the epidemiologists closing down the beaches.
dan friesen
Well, it could be that.
It could be a concern.
Or it could be something else.
kerry cassidy
We know that in Malibu, they're closing the beaches.
They won't even let you park along PCH and stare at the ocean, which is what people were doing a couple weekends ago, having nice little parties in their cars, being more than six feet away from another car.
But that wasn't good enough.
So then they stopped.
They blocked off all the parking areas along PCH in Malibu.
You could go five miles north to Ventura Beaches, and you would be fine.
And they would let you go on the beach, etc.
But not in what is L.A. County.
dan friesen
Right, different counties.
jordan holmes
Yes, that would explain that.
Different laws.
kerry cassidy
The answer is, either there's a sea animal coming out of the sea only in the Malibu area, or they just hate us and don't want us to get rid of them.
from the beaches and trails they closed all the trails and all the parks in Malibu as well so even when you're hiking with no one around you you're still you know suspect to getting the virus supposedly but in reality these rules have nothing to do with the virus they have nothing to do It's a plot, yeah.
What they want to do is they don't want humans to communicate.
And they don't want humans to actually get close enough to share the truth.
And they certainly don't want you to be close enough to be able to riot or do anything substantial.
So they are enforcing this stupid mindset of six feet.
dan friesen
Hey, buddy!
Hey, buddy!
I saw a sea monster.
Come two feet closer so I can tell you.
Hey, there's a sea monster.
jordan holmes
I can't see you.
I'm six feet away.
dan friesen
There's a sea monster.
jordan holmes
I'm six feet away.
You can't get the truth to me this far away.
unidentified
Hey.
jordan holmes
All right.
So, only two options.
dan friesen
Only two.
jordan holmes
Kraken, or they hate you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Leviathan, or they hate you.
dan friesen
Right.
See, this is, like, it seems unimportant, but it is very important.
It's this level of thinking that's being brought to things is the same level of thinking that's required to end up in Alex's political views as well.
They both are the product of incomplete processes of analysis, of thought, of education, of...
Curiosity?
jordan holmes
A whole host of things.
dan friesen
Yes, absolutely.
jordan holmes
It takes a lot to get you to...
It's either a sea monster or they hate you.
dan friesen
It's gotta be.
Social distancing is a plot, though.
And I would think, like, normally I'd say, I don't know if I'm going to take this information from Carrie.
She's just someone who hosts a stupid YouTube show.
But it turns out she has other credentials.
kerry cassidy
And I can tell you that...
In my view, and I am a natural healer, so I'm a Chinese qi master that I have very activated qi, etc.
And so I do know intuitively what is healing and what is not.
And I can tell you that this idea of keeping six feet away is nonsense.
dan friesen
Oh, I didn't know that some Chinese guy told you that you have very great chi and you're a natural healer, and I should have known.
jordan holmes
Do you know where he went to college?
dan friesen
Probably the Advanced Studies Incorporated.
jordan holmes
God.
If you're a, quote, chi master, God, meet and carry must have been the best day of your life.
dan friesen
Oh, you're a natural.
jordan holmes
Oh, you got the best chi ever!
I've never seen!
It's going to be $7,000 a month.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So when someone tells me that they're a natural, intuitive healer and they know everything just by instinct.
jordan holmes
I can feel it with their chi!
dan friesen
I have to, at that point, determine...
What kind of thing are they bringing to the table?
Because obviously I can't ask them a factual question or anything.
jordan holmes
Can she give me a Kamehameha, though?
Can she give me a cheap blast?
dan friesen
I don't know, but she can give you a blast of absurdity.
This is where shit got real for me.
kerry cassidy
We are spiritual beings having a material experience.
Any sickness, as I've said in my other videos, starts first.
In the layers above this one.
So this is the physical layer.
This is where it comes last.
So even a bioweapon put out among us to make you sick is something that you have to decide in your higher levels of self whether to bring in or to...
To move out of your system.
dan friesen
That's where I got a little worried about the medical advice from this show.
You have to decide to get sick.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
This has a real, like, sort of old-time, puritanical Christian feeling to it.
Or even, not necessarily even Christian, but, like, old, old, old kind of moralizing about illness.
Like, somehow a disease is a deficiency in you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely!
dan friesen
That's really fucked up.
jordan holmes
Do you know why your four humors aren't in alignment, Dan?
Because you were mean to your little sister, and that's why you're sick, and now everybody's got the plague!
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, if you believe this, if you believe that all disease, basically, is something that you have to, your spirit has to allow in or accept, then it does follow that you would look down on sick people.
You would look down on people.
Like chronic conditions is because that's sort of a failing on their part.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Their soul failed and allowed in this lupus or whatever.
jordan holmes
Having Lyme disease is weakened.
dan friesen
It's a really troubling...
I don't know if she's hinted at this in the past, but it felt a little new to me.
It felt like an element of her character that I wasn't aware of, or if I had, I haven't heard her talk this much about.
It's not good.
jordan holmes
There's some things, even now, you still think that there's a general agreement that we're taking this one for granted.
Germs are real.
That's how we're doing it.
That's just what we're going to do today and forever.
And apparently I was wrong about that.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's real fundamentals.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh boy.
What did she think atoms are made of?
Does she think atoms are real?
How do you get nanodust and not have germ theory at the same time?
dan friesen
Look, all of this is...
Gonna end up being fairly contradictory.
You're just gonna have to make peace with that.
And that's because she believes that it's either sea monsters or the government hates us.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
When you have that kind of flawed process, you're gonna end up with...
Hey, talk about nanoparticles and all this weirdo dumb science shit, but also at the same time, you have to accept diseases in your spirit.
jordan holmes
So don't you have to accept the nanoparticles if they are the disease in your spirit?
dan friesen
Or is that 5G?
I imagine that's the workaround.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, because they're too small.
dan friesen
But then 5G can't hurt you unless you accept it, be it hurting you.
Why should you ever be worried about what any evil force is doing?
jordan holmes
Oh, because, damn, there are some weak people out there.
This isn't for her.
Her qi is too strong.
Honestly, the Chinese...
Chi master told her.
She's got the best chi she's ever seen.
dan friesen
Why did she have that scalar attack that she was so worried about?
Whatever.
I don't fucking know.
I don't care.
Anyway, it's not just her saying this.
She has an expert.
This dude.
Oh, boy.
kerry cassidy
According to Robert Young, there are...
Dr. Robert Young.
There is...
unidentified
Is he a doctor?
kerry cassidy
Basically an internal environment and an external environment.
So in terms of the earthly level, he's talking exclusively about that, and I highly recommend his information.
He's also one of the people who was well aware in the early days of what is it basically, what we call MMS, chlorine dioxide, and the healing properties and abilities that it has.
To heal everything.
And he also talks about there being basically only one disease.
jordan holmes
Sadness.
kerry cassidy
All you need is one method to heal.
dan friesen
Bleach.
unidentified
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So, do you know who Robert Young is?
jordan holmes
I do not.
Thank on Easter Sunday.
Thank the Lord.
dan friesen
Robert Young is not a doctor, but he's actually way more not a doctor than most of the other people that carry references.
Because unlike people like Kalker, who just solicit terrible advice, Robert Young actually decided to pretend to be a practicing licensed doctor, which he was not.
Here's a little bit from a June 29, 2017 article in the San Diego Union Tribune.
Quote, the author of the popular PH Miracle book series will spend the next five months in jail after admitting that he illegally treated patients at his luxury Valley Center ranch without any medical or scientific training.
He had previously been convicted of two counts of practicing medicine without a license He was also arrested in 1995 and 2001 for practicing without a license This dude loves practicing medicine without being in any way qualified to do so We had a third strike law giving you life for a gram of weed, but this dude can false practice medicine over and over and over again and get five months?
jordan holmes
Fuck this justice system.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't think it's good.
dan friesen
In the trial, it came out that Young's supposed degrees came from a diploma mill where he was able to get a bachelor's degree and a doctorate within the span of eight months in 1995.
Wow.
Which is impossible.
jordan holmes
That's really good.
dan friesen
In legitimate school.
jordan holmes
He might be a genius.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Still impossible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Robert Young did some jail time recently for pretending to be a doctor, but that wasn't it.
In November 2018, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported on a civil trial brought against Young by one of his patients who had cancer.
Yeah, strange.
Yeah, I would go with...
jordan holmes
Still too small.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this is a guy who is not only a felon for pretending to be a doctor.
jordan holmes
He's going to be in debt the rest of his fucking life.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
In that article, it was like he had a luxury lifestyle, and then by the end of this case, he had to use a public attorney.
jordan holmes
That's fantastic.
dan friesen
Like a public defender.
Good.
It's one of those feel-good lines in a news article of this guy who made millions of dollars telling people this bullshit and pretending to be a doctor.
Having to, like, basically be broke by the end of it.
Obviously, I don't necessarily want someone to be punished.
More harshly than is deserved.
But all those ill-gotten gains should be strict.
unidentified
Gone.
jordan holmes
Gone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
She should also have been given Boeing.
Like, that's how much that guy should have been sued.
She gets a massive company.
dan friesen
That he doesn't even own.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
They're just like, we gotta give it to you.
dan friesen
So anyway, we got Andreas Kolker, the guy who wants you to drink bleach, and Robert Young, the fake doctor who went to the joint for pretending to be a doctor.
These are the people that carry things.
So legitimate experts.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
These are the people like Alex who has on like Steve Pchenik and all these nonsense ding-dong weirdos.
They're just...
Alex's version is a little higher.
Except for some of these people lately who are...
jordan holmes
At least Alex used a veterinarian as a doctor for a long time.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And a chiropractor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those are at least medicine adjacent.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Although, but based on their oppositional defiance disorder, like, the fact that he went to jail only proves how real he was, you know?
dan friesen
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
Like, they're insane.
dan friesen
That's a very interesting thought.
So anyway, masks are stupid, according to Carrie.
And she has, she talks a little bit more about this idea of, like, you have to want to get sick in order to get sick.
kerry cassidy
I see people out in nature with stupid masks on, which is also ludicrous.
So as far as I'm concerned, just as Dr. Robert Young says, it's not possible to actually catch this or any other disease from other humans.
You actually have to make the decision to bring it in.
We tend to resonate with each other.
So if you live in the same house, you're breathing the same air and hanging out with other people in the same environment.
We are basically senders and receivers and people tend to reflect the diseases that those around them have and decide whether or not to actually manifest those.
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Stop it.
kerry cassidy
There's a much bigger story than those movies are showing you.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
It is a much bigger story than the X-Men movies are telling you.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, we got to the point where it's either a fucking Godzilla or they hate you, and the X-Men movies were trying to warn us about this, Dan!
dan friesen
So you can't catch diseases unless you want to.
There's a sympathetic thing where if you have people in your home who get sick, you'll get sick because you're sympathizing with them or something.
Which doesn't really make sense for asymptomatic transmission.
Because obviously there are cases of people who you don't know you're sick and then you get someone else sick.
And then it happens.
If you are not aware that your family member is sick, I don't know how the sympathetic transmission works.
But then the workaround for that would be your soul knows.
jordan holmes
Your spirit is aware.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's always some fucking magical thinking.
jordan holmes
Nothing is real.
dan friesen
No.
But you have to.
Your soul has to accept the disease.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But then this next clip becomes a problem then.
kerry cassidy
I understand that the elderly...
And people, even young people with weakened immune system that have been sitting, you know, eating junk food and staring at electronics since they were born practically.
I mean, you can understand there is an epidemic of a weakened immune system of humanity here on planet Earth.
There's no doubt about that.
And most people don't even know what kundalini is, let alone...
Orgone or meditating and how to raise your kundalini and open your chakras and join them and get to samadhi, etc., etc., which I have done and I can tell you it's worth it.
dan friesen
It's worth it.
kerry cassidy
So, what else can I tell you?
dan friesen
What else is in the news?
unidentified
So, by the way, I'm a Buddha, a guru.
jordan holmes
Whatever you like, I reached somebody a long time ago.
unidentified
I got a giant chi-boner all the time.
dan friesen
Gotta tell you, worth it.
So, what the problem I have there is if you don't believe in disease, why do we have immune systems?
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
Problem.
jordan holmes
Those are put in there by the globalists.
I'm sorry, the interdimensional evil beings in order to convince you.
Just like how Jesus put the dinosaurs in there to make you think that the earth was older than 6,000 years, Dan, but it's not.
It's a test of faith.
dan friesen
Okay.
In that case, why is it a problem that we have weakened immune systems if your immune system isn't protecting you from diseases that you can catch from things like, I don't know, eating dirt or something?
jordan holmes
Because if your weakened immune system is working inward out to the spirit, then the spirit's immune system is weakened.
Boy, this one doesn't make any fucking sense.
I got nothing.
dan friesen
If Carrie believes that all of this is spiritually like, you know, just this thing where you have sympathetic responses to people and that gets you sick, shouldn't the answer be hate everyone?
If you hate everyone, then you'll never get sick.
You are impervious to disease if you are the biggest misanthrope in the world.
jordan holmes
The only person who has never been sick in his entire life was the Unabomber, Dan, and I believe that to be true.
I guarantee that is a fact.
dan friesen
Never have a sympathetic reaction to anybody.
Cleanse yourself of any empathy or human emotion and you'll never be sick.
jordan holmes
Reach somebody!
dan friesen
It's worth it!
So, uh, Carrie in this next clip talks about how the bad guys, uh, who are the globalists for all intents and purposes, they have a bunch of dominoes they gotta knock down, right?
So you got the economy, the disease, whatever.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
They had to do it all at the same time.
jordan holmes
Right.
Um, just like dominoes.
dan friesen
And they might be using psychics in order to make their plans.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But, so is Trump.
kerry cassidy
And so they have to do these dominoes all together.
And one can imagine they're using things like Looking Glass, Project Looking Glass.
They're also using what used to be called Cray computers that are now basically probably D-Wave, which is Geordi Rose, the five, you know, going into the fifth dimension, looking in the future, trying to find high...
Probabilities of what will work and what won't work.
So they're basically figuring out a trajectory for their moves.
There is some evidence that Trump, QAnon, and team are doing the same thing.
In other words, using precogs, using remote viewers, using special computers, D-wave machines, etc.
Try to strategically figure out how to navigate the future and being in competition with each other.
dan friesen
They've got teams of psychics working against each other.
jordan holmes
Can psychics get sick?
They have control over their mind powers, right?
Wouldn't that preclude the ability to push out disease?
dan friesen
You'd think they couldn't.
Also, anybody...
None of these people that she knows should be in prison.
If...
They have psychic friends.
Like, Sean David Morton is like a remote viewer and all this shit.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
He shouldn't have gone to prison for fraud.
unidentified
That's true.
jordan holmes
That's an issue.
dan friesen
He should have seen that coming.
jordan holmes
Right.
Maybe it's part of his natural plan.
dan friesen
He doesn't seem happy about it.
jordan holmes
Or perhaps, perhaps this, what the psychics and the precogs all know is that there is absolutely predestination.
And so he had no choice but to play it out like that.
I would imagine that being able to see the future in a system of predestination would be a real fucking bummer.
dan friesen
Probably be best not to tell people that everything's predetermined.
Anyway, in this next clip, we get more similarities with Alex, just like some of the villains are the same, and a lot of these narratives are very, very similar once you strip away aliens and everything fun.
kerry cassidy
As I said, it's going to be very important for Trump to step forward, to fire Fauci for one thing, to get rid of Bill Gates, to arrest him and silence him, and Melinda Gates for that matter, and basically take down this very dark, deep state that goes into the secret space program.
Now, how far they're going to be able to go with all of it, I don't know.
But I can tell you that keeping you in your houses is not stopping them from doing their operations.
So that's nonsense.
If someone tells you that, that's not what's happening.
What is really happening is that the dark, deep state is basically rolling out a global, artificially intelligent, linked up through 5G and nano and More words.
Words, words, words.
Once they get their vaccine off the ground.
This is the end game that they're working on.
dan friesen
It's the end game.
jordan holmes
Dun, dun, dun!
dan friesen
This is exactly the same thing that Alex is saying.
Like the idea, you know, while they're doing this social distancing, they're putting up 5G around everywhere.
And once they get the vaccines, they'll have the tattoo that'll track you and all this.
Like it's all the same.
It's all the same.
Because this is dumb.
This is bad.
jordan holmes
Aside from aliens, she's just like a dumb old white lady Trump supporter.
She just has aliens on top of everything.
Other than that, she's still like, kids are bad for playing video games.
dan friesen
It's kind of a way to be condescending within that space a little bit.
It's interesting.
It's like, oh yeah, you all know this, but I know even more.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, for sure.
dan friesen
I know the other level, which is Raptors.
jordan holmes
You guys think QAnon is cool, buddy!
Check out my chi!
It's off the charts!
dan friesen
Now, speaking of QAnon, Carrie might believe some of the dumber parts of QAnon.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Particularly that JFK Jr. might be alive and is working with Trump.
kerry cassidy
It's my hope that it's true that JFK Jr. is alive and working with Trump.
jordan holmes
Why?
kerry cassidy
I sincerely hope that's the case, and I think that would be a very good thing.
jordan holmes
Why?
kerry cassidy
And I'm told, and QAnon says in their broadcast, or not broadcast, but in their text, that they plan to come out in July.
They also say there's going to be a disclosure announcement to do with ET in July.
whether that's gonna be We're making a sequel, guys.
False flag alien invasion, or whether it's really gonna be a real disclosure with some intelligence behind it.
I don't know.
dan friesen
You certainly don't.
And I can't wait for that disappointment to come around.
unidentified
Yeah, no kidding.
jordan holmes
You have no idea, lady.
dan friesen
Enjoy in advance.
So she already said endgame, and she does it again.
She's using it a bit.
And it's interesting because the way she's framing that and using the term, it's very similar to Alex.
And even her conception of what the New World Order is doing right now is basically identical.
kerry cassidy
They have decided that we're at the endgame here on planet Earth, and so they have to roll out their Armageddon.
And it is based on the playbook, which is in the Bible.
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Everything that's in the Bible will be adhered to by the Illuminati as they work on rolling out their new One World Order.
dan friesen
Alex says stuff like that quite a bit.
I mean, he talks about how either Revelation is true and completely accurate or the globalists are using it as a template.
You know, it's all the same.
These people are similar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
Is she pre or post-trip rapture?
dan friesen
I mean, if she's pre, then that's the only reason that she and Alex don't get along.
Because he could put up with raptors.
jordan holmes
But not raptors that get raptured pre-trib.
dan friesen
No raptor rapture?
jordan holmes
No raptor rapture.
Not until post-trib.
dan friesen
So, you brought up the oppositional defiance thing earlier.
I thought that was really insightful.
Because I think that Carrie might...
I don't see whatever chats she's getting in her stream, but I think someone might have pointed out that Robert Young got arrested for faking being a doctor because she has a little bit of a response to it, and you might have been...
I mean, I don't want to say that you have a great chi energy or are a natural psychic, but you might have...
Given her exact rebuttal.
jordan holmes
I've done some looking glass.
kerry cassidy
I don't think they even understand viruses.
unidentified
I don't think you understand viruses.
kerry cassidy
But I'm not an expert, so I'm not going to be able to say one way or another what a virus is.
I can say Dr. Young gives you a very convincing argument for what it is.
And you should read his papers on his website, watch his videos, watch my interview with him.
And maybe you'll begin to glean what is really being said and what's true about viruses and what isn't.
Now, what else?
And by the way, anybody who is arrested...
Disinfo, discredited, etc.
by the deep state is a lot more likely to be telling the real truth than someone who is lauded on some platform and has all these awards.
jordan holmes
I thought you wanted us to listen to the people.
kerry cassidy
When the system rewards you, it's very possible that that person is not telling the truth in some aspect.
They're playing the piper.
They are basically on board with the deep state agenda.
So just keep that in mind for all of you who think, oh, they've been in jail, or oh, they're, you know, this or that.
Just like people attack Mark Richards, Captain Mark Richards.
jordan holmes
For murdering that guy.
kerry cassidy
Saying, you know, because he's been framed for murder.
Hello, that should tell you he's probably telling the truth.
I mean, people do not be so naive and so simplistic as to not understand this.
Our entire world is run by the deep state.
It's the dark side.
So these are the people they love are the people that are probably worth hating if you want to bother to put that energy out there.
Which I don't.
dan friesen
You do.
kerry cassidy
But I can tell you, I know a liar when I see one.
dan friesen
That's the funniest fucking thing.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Wow.
Shut the fuck up, Carrie.
You are not allowed to say those words!
dan friesen
I know a liar when I see one.
jordan holmes
You got conned!
dan friesen
By everyone.
jordan holmes
Out of thousands of dollars!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
But, you know.
Yeah, I mean, the problem with that sort of thinking is how do you determine who has been discredited by this deep state and who's been discredited by being a lunatic?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Who has discredited themselves?
How do you differentiate between the two?
And I think it just comes down to who do you want to?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Absolute whim.
dan friesen
Because you're right.
I mean, I bet that there are a hundred people in prison for murder who have a great story to tell.
That could be exactly the same as Mark Richards.
jordan holmes
Probably better.
dan friesen
I imagine she could find a hundred secret space program whistleblowers in all sorts of places.
jordan holmes
Put some money into the commissary.
You got yourself a secret space weirdo.
dan friesen
I bet that there are a number of people who also would tell her things that don't line up with her narratives and she wouldn't go ahead and believe them.
jordan holmes
Well, that's because they're deep state.
dan friesen
Right.
They're probably put in prison as a psyop against her or something.
Yeah, it's all just whatever you want to believe.
You want to believe that this Robert Young is right about stuff and therefore his crimes and his...
Direct harm that he did to people is the deep state discrediting him as opposed to being a guy who committed crimes.
And you know what?
When the crimes are fraud, that has an impact on other claims.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
It does.
jordan holmes
You are a known and convicted liar multiple times over.
I'm going to go with, I'm not going to trust what you have to say.
That's just me.
dan friesen
Some crimes, like if you're in prison for some crimes, that might not ruin your credibility.
Like if you're in prison for selling drugs or something like that, that doesn't necessarily impact what I would say your ability to be taken as a credible source of information is.
jordan holmes
It makes you a small business owner.
dan friesen
When you are somebody who is doing a bid for a fraud-related crime.
jordan holmes
There's that.
dan friesen
That does have an impact.
It matters.
And Carrie refuses to recognize that.
Because she likes fraud people.
jordan holmes
She likes fraud people.
dan friesen
She likes bleach people.
jordan holmes
Who are a subset of fraud people.
Yes.
All I hear there is just, there's no hope.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's all I hear.
All I hear is, I will never listen to anything.
dan friesen
Ever.
jordan holmes
Not gonna happen.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
I can spot a liar is the saddest sentence I think that anybody could say.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, if you look through the list of people that she's interviewed and been like, this person gets it.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm a truth-sayer.
I'm part of the Bene Gesserit.
I can absolutely tell when people are lying all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, she hung out with Leo Zagami.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
I know a liar when I see one.
jordan holmes
Do you?
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here from this first report from Tuesday.
And it's interesting.
She said endgame a couple times.
She's definitely referencing a bunch of narratives that have heavy overlap with Alex.
And now she ends the show with Alex's literal catchphrase.
kerry cassidy
I do want to say you are not alone.
There are pockets of resistance all over the planet.
That I am Carrie Cassidy.
And if you are watching this, you are the resistance.
dan friesen
If you're watching this, You Are the Resistance is something that plays in voiceover bumpers in and out of commercial breaks on Alex's show.
That is obviously...
In the next report, she references that she's quoting Terminator Salvation or something.
It's more importantly, in the conspiracy world, something that Alex has branded.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The same way that, like, the answer to 1984 is 1776.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That could be in a movie somewhere, and if you're quoting it, you're still quoting Alex.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's his own.
He's taken it.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
There's too much overlap with Alex on this for it to be coincidental.
jordan holmes
Although that makes sense for somebody like Swery Carey to start going that direction, is because in a crisis, Her instinct is to go megalomania.
Before, she's telling you about the deep state.
No big deal.
I can see the future.
I can remote view.
I'm a psychic.
I'm all of this stuff.
But now that there's a crisis, she's like, I'm the fucking leader of the resistance now.
That's what's happening.
My chi is too strong to hide it in the YouTube space.
dan friesen
Basically Sarah Connor.
Exactly.
So we get to the 8th.
There's another video that she put out.
I'll be honest, I probably wouldn't cover this one either, except for how it ends.
One of the wilder theories I've ever heard suggested.
And it's not accurate.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It has a problem for her no one gets sick unless they want to theories.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
But when someone comes with an idea like this, you can't not tell people about it.
jordan holmes
If you're aware of it, if you're listening to this right now, you are obviously the resistance.
dan friesen
I could build this up for the next 45 minutes, and it would still not disappoint.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
One of the more...
Surprising things.
jordan holmes
I'm really excited.
dan friesen
So we start with her talking more shit about Fauci, and apparently she has another source of a guy who has some idea.
Anyway, this is just dumb.
kerry cassidy
George Webb did a video that actually related directly to my recent article, which I wrote, I think it was yesterday, or the day before.
jordan holmes
You should know.
kerry cassidy
And basically, George is talking about information.
That appears to be factual, related to what's involved in the so-called CV, and it has come from, it's basically, he nicknames it a bat virus, and says it has a protein covering that deceives the body into accepting the virus.
The covering of protein is called glycoprotein 120, and apparently back in 1985, Dr. Fauci...
Fauci was, who is obviously the sort of CDC, I think he's a CDC guy that is involved with Trump, and hopefully will be fired soon, who was involved in developing that protein covering.
And without that protein covering, our body would just naturally reject the virus.
This is according to George Webb, and it appears that he has some background in this field.
dan friesen
So I'm not even going to even care enough to get into the content.
I don't even think that's even worth thinking about, based on the way she's delivering this information.
But I wanted to talk about two things.
The first is at the end there, where Carrie says that her source and the mechanics of this virus, George Webb, quote, appears to have some background in this field.
He appears to!
Carrie doesn't even actually know if Webb has any idea what he's talking about, but he's saying the kind of things that she likes, namely that make Fauci look evil, so she's just going to assume that he's got the background and the feel that, you know, you'd need.
This is what someone who's very clearly engaged in the practice of believing whatever the fuck they want to does, but they're also trying to insist that they're following a process.
This is not good.
And also, like you responded to, you can tell that she's just winging it because...
it shouldn't matter if diseases aren't infectious and you have to decide to get them, which is what Carrie has expressed as being her belief.
If you have to will a disease into yourself, then engineering that disease shouldn't matter.
It shouldn't have any effect on anything.
jordan holmes
Nope.
I, uh, I...
The idea that...
You can just be like, well, he appears to be reasonable, and since I know how to spot a liar, I'm just going to assume that he is.
He didn't seem like he was lying to me, so there you go.
Done.
dan friesen
And Fauci should know that, like, you can't get sick.
He is in an absolute position to know that the only way to get sick is to will it into yourself.
So why would he spend the last 35 years having engineered this glycoprotein?
Oh god, so stupid.
But that's what, it just doesn't matter.
Nothing matters.
jordan holmes
No, it doesn't.
It really doesn't.
dan friesen
And I think part of that is because Carrie's working on two different tracks.
There's this sort of like X-Men human potential.
We're all bigger than our, you know, whatever.
You have to will.
Your higher self allows a disease in or whatever.
It's kind of a hippy-dippier version of this belief system.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then there's the second track, and that is this paranoid New World Order conspiracy stuff.
And she's trying to run both of these tracks at the same time, and they are not complimentary.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And also the problem is that she likes the paranoid one more.
jordan holmes
It's fun!
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's probably more interesting for people.
It allows you to express a little bit more anger.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It probably is more profitable.
And I think that she probably just, on an entertainment level, enjoys it more.
And so you have things like, you know...
They're trying to get everyone sick with this engineered thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That seems to be completely undone by the pseudo-spiritual no one ever gets sick stuff.
But you just leave that aside whenever you want to...
You can't have both.
jordan holmes
Historically, the people who have reached enlightenment do not engage with the paranoid drain of lunacy.
That's kind of one of the things that they put away.
One of the things that they shed from this earthly body.
dan friesen
Right.
And so it's not okay, I think, to have such a scattered, disorienting...
A contradictory, paranoid, conspiracy worldview.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You have to choose one, and I'll let you do it.
I'll let you do it.
I mean, I'll still make fun of dumb stuff.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But I don't have as much of a problem with the, like, hippie-ish...
Love is a vibrational frequency we can all feel.
That kind of stuff.
I'm not going to be as mad at that.
And I'm also not going to be as mad at the new world order.
I'm not going to be.
But when it's both.
It's not good.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Unlike peanut butter and chocolate, it is more like bananas and anything with bananas.
dan friesen
These are not two tastes that taste great together.
They are internally inconsistent and make me furious.
But Carrie has a theory about Malibu, if you recall.
There might be a beast in that water.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
And it turns out there might be a reason she thinks that.
Clover fan?
jordan holmes
Is she a big T.J. Miller fan?
dan friesen
She might be watching some TV.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
I started with kind of just letting people know that I was watching a series on Amazon called Invasion, and what I found was interesting in that series, which is about an invasion that is coming from the water and secretly taking over people.
Appears to be something in some kind of creature, but we don't really know what the creature is, although it shows it at one point looking kind of alien, I guess, and very weird.
And basically they go into lockdown and curfew in part of the series in the beginning.
Eventually that seems to be taken up as far as the curfew goes and the lockdown, but...
The invasion continues.
So that's kind of, you might say, kind of a jumping-off point for me to talk about the fact that things just don't add up.
dan friesen
Is it good, though?
That's what I want to know.
Should I watch it?
jordan holmes
One, I think it's hilarious that she'll sit down, plop down, and be like, I'm going to watch this show.
And then find Invasion and be like, ooh, I'm going to do some research instead of watching a show.
I'm going to watch Invasion.
That's what I'm going to do.
And two, you can't have an Amazon Prime account if you think that 5G is coming to kill us all.
You just can't do it.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
You can't.
dan friesen
It's interesting that that also doesn't seem to be a problem.
The thing that I want to draw a really fucking sharp focus to is on the 7th...
On the report from that day, she's speculating that there might be a beast coming out of the water in Malibu, and that's why the beaches are closed.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
And then on the 8th, on that one, she's like, well, I have been watching this show called Invasion.
unidentified
There is.
dan friesen
Is it possible that these are related thoughts?
jordan holmes
I started on Monday.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I thought there was a beast in the water on Tuesday, and now I still think...
I don't think that there's any correlation.
dan friesen
You think there's a relation?
jordan holmes
No, I don't think so.
dan friesen
You don't think that maybe you can't tell the difference between reality and fiction?
jordan holmes
Why would you think that?
Do I have a long, endless track record of doing that?
dan friesen
Do you think that maybe your imagination is seeping over into what you're presenting as reality, and it's bad?
jordan holmes
No, she's doing research.
dan friesen
Yeah, doing research.
jordan holmes
Is she enjoying the show, though?
dan friesen
That's what I want to know.
I don't think we get a review.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
We'll have to check it out.
dan friesen
Yeah, I won't.
I don't want to be convinced of what the truth is, so I won't watch it.
So she said at the end there something doesn't add up.
There's something that doesn't add up.
kerry cassidy
Things just don't add up.
That there's no reason, for one thing, to keep people off trails, out of parks, and off beaches.
And this whole emphasis on six feet away is actually very ludicrous and doesn't mean anything.
And there's reason to believe it's not even contagious.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
We're going there!
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
Alright!
Okay, that's a big swing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Great.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
100,000 people dying?
That's not even contagious.
dan friesen
I'm curious what...
jordan holmes
Millions of cases?
Not even contagious.
dan friesen
I'm curious what that reason is.
I don't hear one.
I don't hear her elaborate on this.
What's the reason for thinking this isn't contagious other than you not believing things are ever contagious?
jordan holmes
There's some reason to believe that it's not contagious, Dan.
dan friesen
Is it just because you deny that diseases exist?
jordan holmes
I don't have a reason.
I'm just saying that somewhere there is one, probably, right?
Oh, man.
That's so scary.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That's so scary.
dan friesen
It is.
And, again, it has to be...
Constantly reminded to people that someone who believes stuff like that very easily becomes convinced of the exact same narratives that Alex Jones believes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because they require the same level of disconnect from reality.
jordan holmes
We should start teaching germ theory in like kindergarten just to make sure that this kind of thought doesn't happen as an adult.
Like we really got to hammer it home at the point of birth.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
I think that's treating a symptom.
I think that's treating a symptom as opposed to the larger problem that is denial of reality.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that.
dan friesen
I think that you instill reality well, and people will go ahead and figure out the germ part.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, I do appreciate on one level that Carrie, unlike Alex, she'll name people who are her felons that she believes are experts, which I appreciate.
Another thing that I appreciate is that she will just kind of cop to the fact that, like, yeah, I think life is a movie, and I might just be making stuff up.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
kerry cassidy
What I'm doing is taking sort of a jump off a cliff, if you want to call it that.
And really just connecting some dots and giving you a hypothetical look at what might be going on.
jordan holmes
Do you get a letter from the Attorney General?
kerry cassidy
That it's outrageous and may be off track.
But there are some interesting things going on.
And because I tend to see life like a Hollywood movie...
jordan holmes
Because I'm a screenwriter.
kerry cassidy
And a Hollywood sci-fi movie at that.
jordan holmes
Does that write screenwrites?
kerry cassidy
This does feed into my kind of conception of that.
dan friesen
Yes, it does.
Maybe in a way that's a problem.
Maybe in a way that makes your declarative statements about what's happening ludicrous and funny.
jordan holmes
Somehow, it makes me even angrier that she's willing to admit she's just making stuff up.
She's not like Alex saying he's right 100% of the time, even when he's wrong.
She's like, I'm putting some dots together and maybe it's stupid.
dan friesen
But to be clear, she's not saying that about everything.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
She's saying that about specifically the narrative we're going to get to at the end of this episode.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And I do admit she is making stuff up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But she also is not presenting it that way.
She's not presenting it as like...
Just to give you a spoiler, she's talking about something completely insane, and then at the end is like, this is the most likely explanation.
So it's...
jordan holmes
It's not necessarily true, but it's the most likely.
dan friesen
You could say it's, hey, we're spitballing, connecting dots, but you're also saying, this is probably what's up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, sure.
dan friesen
And it doesn't apply to other things, like her using this felon.
jordan holmes
Amazon Prime account.
dan friesen
This felon fake doctor to basically, like, germs don't exist.
kerry cassidy
When people get sick because a member of the family is sick, this is a sympathetic response, in my view.
It's not because, you know.
Literally, what we call germs or bacteria were picked up.
Now, I have Dr. Young who would substantiate that as well.
jordan holmes
He would.
kerry cassidy
I've interviewed, and the links are on my website.
But on top of it, there's simply no real basis for understanding what those things are, as opposed to...
why we would bring them into our body in the first place.
And I've gotten into this in other videos, so I really don't want to repeat I don't want to get into it now.
dan friesen
I've proven this already.
jordan holmes
Look, I won't bore you with the gory details of all the stuff that I don't know anything about.
I'm just going to let you know that I proved it.
dan friesen
I won't belabor the point of how all science is wrong, and I'm right, and so is my felon friend, but you know.
jordan holmes
Does she just go through local newspapers to see what fake doctor might have gone to jail, and then she just visits them in jail, and that's how she gets all of her sources?
dan friesen
I'm guessing it's just whoever believes in bleach.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
And then whoever calls her, maybe.
Anyway, Carrie has dreams, prophetic dreams.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course.
dan friesen
She talks about one a little bit here.
kerry cassidy
The question is, should we be watching the skies?
And there is reason to believe that there's an asteroid headed towards us.
I did have a vision of this, and then it came out in the news after I had my vision about, I don't know, a week later.
And what's happening now is there's more and more talk of this.
But you have to realize...
Or I suggest you realize that we actually have the weaponry to shoot down, shoot away or fragment an asteroid.
dan friesen
Haven't you seen Armageddon?
jordan holmes
I suggest I realize that as well.
dan friesen
Haven't you studied Armageddon?
jordan holmes
It's on Prime.
There's a discount for it right now.
Do your research, Dan.
dan friesen
In your JSTOR account that is Amazon Prime movies.
I mean, yeah, whatever, man.
You had a vision of an asteroid.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
And then she'd be like, no, it's not Armageddon.
That's stupid.
It's Deep Impact.
That's way better.
dan friesen
Pardon me.
So, here we go.
I would talk about her visions and how I don't care about that being a source of information.
I would do that for a while, but I can't because we've got to get down to business on this fun thing.
jordan holmes
I'm so excited.
dan friesen
So, there is a problem.
And that is, in China, there were stories that came out about people being welded into their homes for quarantine.
Now, some people might think this is the act of an authoritarian government trying to contain a virus.
jordan holmes
Sounds like what they would do.
dan friesen
Sounds like something, an extreme example of something that is within what I would believe a government like the Chinese government.
Yes.
Now, there's another explanation that's possible.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
The question becomes, why would you weld people into their apartments?
And that comes into a sort of almost sci-fi idea, and this is where it gets, we have to go back and look at what the virus is.
So, they say that most of the information coming through to do with the...
Fort Detrick and then a lab in a bioweapons lab in North Carolina and then making its way to Wuhan and a Chinese woman who was working for the USA also being involved in that and maybe even involved in the transfer over to China.
It does appear that China and the USA were working simultaneously on this particular Virus type thing, and that they were getting something from bats.
dan friesen
So there's something going on with bats here.
jordan holmes
Getting something from bats.
dan friesen
Something going on with bats.
Not quite sure exactly what's going on here.
This next clip, Carrie, to use her own language, goes right off a cliff.
unidentified
Okay.
kerry cassidy
But you also have to say to yourself, okay, why would somebody...
We want to lock these people in unless there were developing symptoms that are similar to some kind of a vampire reaction as a result of being infected with this.
And that this was what they were afraid of or why the Chinese would weld them into their place.
jordan holmes
Of course.
kerry cassidy
It's a possible explanation.
dan friesen
It makes total sense.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
They're making vampires out here.
You've got to weld them in.
That was Van Helsing's first idea.
Weld him in.
Weld him into that fucking castle.
dan friesen
Now, when the stock market went down, did you notice that the stakes went way up?
The steak business went way up.
Garlic shares were through the roof.
Did you know that?
Look at the numbers.
They're making vampires, man.
jordan holmes
We didn't trust our Jonathan Harker, and now here we are.
dan friesen
Oh, they're making vampires.
jordan holmes
They're making vampires, Dan.
They were taking stuff from bats, and now we got vampires.
dan friesen
I can't believe that you didn't get that when she said they were taking something from bats.
I was so worried.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
I was so worried.
jordan holmes
Why would I think that their vampires are real?
dan friesen
Well, because bats.
I thought for sure you'd be like, oh, she's on to vampires.
jordan holmes
Look, I didn't think anybody with an Amazon Prime account would go straight to vampires, and I was wrong.
I was just wrong.
dan friesen
So there's an agenda at play to turn people into vampires.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And this might have something to do with reptile, raptors, dracos, whatever.
But it also probably has to do with that nefarious race of aliens that pops up every now and again.
The dragon moths.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
kerry cassidy
Bats are blood drinkers.
True.
Not really.
Basically, the DNA coming from bats that would be involved in whatever...
They took from them, presumably.
And something that is known in the Oshana Dean material about a very, very diabolical alien creature that's said to be more diabolical than just the straight-up Draco.
jordan holmes
Of course.
unidentified
Oh, no.
kerry cassidy
So you have the Greys, the Reptilians, and the Draco, kind of in a pecking order there.
jordan holmes
A lot of snicking going on.
kerry cassidy
They're all involved with various governments and also with...
Especially with the cabal.
And so it's very important to understand that this sort of new world order is coming from that group, which is a very top-down hierarchical society that they prefer humans to basically be following in that tradition.
The humans they want to allow to live, that is.
And they are...
Still in a takeover scenario and wanting to be in complete control, but there's another group called the Dragon Moths that apparently might be related to the dragons, but they're a whole step aside, which appears to be...
This is just my conjecture.
I can't remember what their actual combination is.
They appear to be...
You know, you can say insectoid dragons.
So there's some dragon insectoid creature and even related possibly to the bird beings.
jordan holmes
Like a dragonfly?
kerry cassidy
Wings, etc.
And it's well known that birds are related to Draco and Ripon.
jordan holmes
Ooh!
kerry cassidy
As a species.
So you get the connection.
jordan holmes
The birds are in on it too, Dan!
unidentified
You get it?
dan friesen
It makes sense.
Aren't birds not related to the raptors that left Earth and evolved into alien raptors?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And reptiles, isn't that...
Kind of a different path.
Isn't that a branching path?
jordan holmes
It is a branching path, but you could say that they have a common ancestor prior to the raptors escaping the extinction of all life on Earth.
dan friesen
They probably got some bird in there, though, because wings, birds.
jordan holmes
Gotta have birds.
dan friesen
The way she's talking about these aliens make me think.
I don't have a lot of faith in this.
This does not sound like someone who knows their shit.
Even about a fake thing, you don't seem to know who the dragon moths are.
jordan holmes
Do your fucking research on your fake bullshit, at least!
dan friesen
I need a full-on entry in your beast book.
jordan holmes
I want a bestiary.
dan friesen
Yeah, of the dragon moths.
jordan holmes
I want a Dungeons and Dragons manual for your bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, you are no E. Gary Gygax.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Figure your shit out.
dan friesen
Ugh, dragon moths.
Maybe birds.
Wings.
Insectoid.
jordan holmes
Eh, a little bit.
dan friesen
Nefarious.
Very diabolical.
jordan holmes
Even more diabolical.
Explain to me how...
What gradation of diabolical are we dealing with whenever we're talking even more diabolical than the ones trying to enslave an entire planet?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Also, I don't understand how turning people into vampires works towards those goals.
I know a bit from vampire lore, and one of the things is they're immortal.
jordan holmes
That's what I was...
I wrote down what standard vampire powers are we dealing with here?
Okay, so the Chinese and USA government both turned people into vampires, of course.
dan friesen
At the behest of the Dragon Balls.
jordan holmes
Naturally, and you had to weld them in.
Yeah.
Because...
As we all know, vampires cannot get out of windows.
It is simply impossible for them to turn into some sort of smaller creature that could literally fly away.
dan friesen
Right, right.
But you don't want them outside because everyone would see their cape.
They would know something was up.
Viruses don't give you capes.
So they would know.
Widow's peak in a cape.
Dead ringer.
You are a vampire.
jordan holmes
You know what I noticed was strange was that all these Chinese people went into the building to get treatment and came out Hungarian, which is really strange.
That was really strange for me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
I mean, I guess you weld them in so they can't drink blood.
jordan holmes
Sure, that makes sense.
But then aren't you going to kill them?
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems like it would be easier.
Especially if they're not, like, good at being a vampire yet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You would need some sort of a mentor.
A vampire mentor.
So I assume that the dragon moths have been making vampires for a long time.
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, the only goal of this would be to spread the vampirism, right?
I mean, it would be to make everyone vampires.
jordan holmes
If everyone's a vampire, that doesn't seem so bad.
dan friesen
I mean...
Yeah, it would require a fundamental restructuring of society.
jordan holmes
Public transit would not be an issue anymore.
That's a positive.
We're not talking about that.
dan friesen
Alright.
Yeah, if you want to get down to it on that kind of a basis, sure.
Healthcare costs would go down.
jordan holmes
Way down.
There are no healthcare costs.
dan friesen
No, certainly.
jordan holmes
Just blood banks, I suppose.
dan friesen
Do vampires reproduce?
jordan holmes
Um, well, other than via vampire bite, no.
I don't think you can, I mean, sometimes...
dan friesen
They don't have, because they're undead?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't think they're packing a good sperm count.
dan friesen
My other problem is that if you're trying to create a subservient population, don't go vampires.
They're historically, in literature, been the rebellious sort.
Yes.
They are not vampires.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Vampires are the thing that the social order must...
Crush!
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because of how much chaos they bring into a system.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But maybe that's what the diabolical dragon moths are trying to do to the Draco's attempt at bringing in order.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So maybe if they're trying to work across purposes of the Draco, Carrie should be in favor of people becoming vampires at the behest of the dragon moths.
jordan holmes
That's strange.
Especially considering, if I understand my lore correctly...
Vampires are just a thinly veiled anti-immigrant message.
dan friesen
I thought there was also like a sexuality thing to it, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, that's, again, it's...
dan friesen
The fear of the sexuality of the other?
jordan holmes
The Eastern European coming into Europe in order to have sex with all of our women and destroy our cultures and steal everything of ours, as well as our economy.
It's a really, really racist book if you get down to it.
dan friesen
I don't know enough about the vampire lore.
Past the fact that they do not make sense as something to be using in your dumb conspiracy.
So, we got vampires, baby.
jordan holmes
We got vampires.
Vampires are in play.
dan friesen
It's 2020, baby.
We got vampires.
We got vampires.
jordan holmes
Weld him in.
dan friesen
So now, it's really important to recognize this, that she's in the middle of talking about dragon moth aliens that she clearly doesn't even know what the lore is on.
jordan holmes
They're really diabolical.
dan friesen
They're probably creating vampires.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then interspersed with that is stuff like this.
kerry cassidy
Dr. Falke, who's running this whole show, it appears from...
The side of the medical side related to the CDC is on stage with Trump all the time.
Although there is indications that Trump is very likely going to fire him very soon.
jordan holmes
No, he's a vampire.
kerry cassidy
But he's a very diabolical character, and it does appear that this was the plan.
So he's orchestrating, in some ways, a lot of what's going on here, especially in the United States, and advocating all of the Bill Gates, and he's basically in bed with the Gates and all that kind of stuff.
So this is what we have.
A diabolical concoction, obviously.
dan friesen
Keep saying diabolical like the dragon moths.
So you have this, like, this...
Presentation of maybe this virus is aliens trying to create vampires or something.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And then, at the same time, you have very much Alex Jones theories about real-life things like Fauci being in bed with Bill Gates.
Like, there's the real-world version of that, which is, yes, he works for the NIH.
He works for the Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Bill Gates, a lot of his philanthropy has to do with infectious diseases.
Why wouldn't they be in some sort of association?
jordan holmes
At the very least, spiritually.
dan friesen
Yeah, now to make that into some sort of thing like he's on his payroll or whatever, that's Alex Jones shit.
But it's something you can convince yourself of if you do such bad thinking that you believe that maybe this virus is to make vampires.
Now, you have to be asking yourself at this point, what's the game here?
Why are you trying to make vampires?
Because we can't figure this out.
jordan holmes
I was asking myself that, yes.
dan friesen
Because it doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This is convoluted.
But Gary does have an answer.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
This was a real...
You know, I said earlier that aspiring to make lasagna is a bright spot for me.
And it's just because I couldn't tell you about this clip in advance.
This clip was a bit of a bright spot.
kerry cassidy
So you have to also then look at what Trump's doing.
So Trump is hunting down blood drinkers and pedophiles.
unidentified
And, you know, and adrenochrome.
kerry cassidy
So we're talking about beings that feed on humans and humans getting shot up with a type of a virus that is going to Possibly shoot that DNA
into humans, turning them into, in theory, blood drinkers themselves and in mass.
And this is the kind of thing where if you were an Illuminati and you realized you were being hunted down, especially your leaders are being hunted down, then, of course, you want safety in numbers.
You want somewhere to hide.
You have nowhere to hide.
The way these people think, they would be diabolical enough to want to create, basically, turn humans into vampires.
The more you have on your team, the more power you have and possibly to combat the loss of some of your leaders.
And by creating a whole species, that would...
Basically have a similar lifestyle and taste to what you do.
So this is unbelievable stuff, I know.
And it does sound crazy, but this is very likely what's going on.
dan friesen
It's very likely that this is what's going on.
jordan holmes
I wanted to laugh.
I wanted to laugh real bad.
But that hurt my brain.
It hurt my brain.
dan friesen
So, Trump, you know, that's very QAnon-y kind of stuff.
jordan holmes
Hunting down blood drinkers and pedophiles, buddy.
dan friesen
Adrenochrome addicts among the population.
Of course!
So, in order to create more vampires, do you do this virus that creates vampires in order to get new recruits?
jordan holmes
Or...
So, here's my biggest issue right now.
What I'm hearing is that there are no vampire powers that come along with this.
You just like to drink blood also.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So they're like, Jesus, man, we drink all this blood.
And these people are hunting us down.
So what we're going to do is we're going to make other people who drink blood.
And then we're all going to get into a big circle.
And they're going to be like, oh, we got to stop you.
And it's like, there's too many of us.
We're going to drink your blood.
dan friesen
Can't do it.
Can't take out all those people who drink blood.
There have to be powers.
It's ludicrous to do this without having powers.
I mean, not that this is real.
But I mean, to have this story going that she's telling without powers.
I don't believe it.
She said the X-Men was real.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
There's powers.
jordan holmes
It's just like, she's not giving me any powers.
She's not giving me any clear-cut powers.
All I'm hearing is that the globalists are making people want to drink blood, and then they're going to be malnourished.
dan friesen
Alex thinks the people in the globalists drink blood, and you think he believes the adrenochrome stuff.
This is not really that far off.
It's just that she's...
You know, saying that there's aliens involved and that the coronavirus is making people into vampires.
That's why you gotta lock them in the house.
Because otherwise, again, you see the cape.
I don't know about any of this because all of it is just like...
Stupid.
Because once you start talking about that, like, well, what about all the other stuff?
Like, I've seen George Soros out during the day.
jordan holmes
See?
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's not a vampire.
No, that's just from books.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
At that point, the game's not worth playing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So don't do that to me.
jordan holmes
We're in the moment in every vampire movie where they're like, now throw away everything you've heard about vampires in books and movies in the past.
These are the real vampires and shit like that.
unidentified
God.
jordan holmes
Also, the Illuminati does not need to turn people into blood drinkers to make friends.
Isn't that kind of what she's saying?
They just want more friends there?
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
You could probably get enough people to be fine just by being a good guy.
dan friesen
Hey, Illuminati, you attract more flies with honey than blood.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Than injecting them with a blood serum that turns them into a blood drinker.
Yes!
That's an incel idea right there.
dan friesen
I don't know if there's any...
Like, I'm not a scientist.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I did not consult our Not a Health Ranger in preparation for this episode, which maybe I should have done, quite honestly.
jordan holmes
You never know.
dan friesen
He could be a blood drinker.
I don't know if there's something in bats that you could inject into a human that would make them drink blood.
I don't know if that thing exists.
jordan holmes
Bad ideas?
dan friesen
I would need Kerry to specifically tell me what that is.
Otherwise, this is dumb.
jordan holmes
Some sort of enzyme that breaks down blood into a more efficient nutritional...
dan friesen
I still don't think that would make me want to drink blood.
I still would eat pizza.
I mean, I would still just have...
jordan holmes
What if pizza made you sick now?
What if it just inverted everything?
dan friesen
I'd probably go with hot dogs.
I'd just eat something else.
Still not going to go with blood.
jordan holmes
But sometimes you're going to go with blood.
dan friesen
I don't think I am.
jordan holmes
You're like, okay, I've been hearing about blood for a long time, but I am a blood drinker, so I'll give it a shot.
dan friesen
It would need to be something that completely rewired The way you took in any kind of sustenance.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So only blood would work.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Because otherwise, like right now, I could, in theory, maybe drink a whole glass of blood.
unidentified
And it would, maybe, maybe that would be all I needed for the day.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
God willing, I'll never know.
Because I eat other food.
jordan holmes
We're not there yet.
We'll see.
If it gets bad enough, Dan, I will absolutely give you a pint.
You can see how it goes.
dan friesen
It will not come to that.
jordan holmes
Hey, you're running out of sandwich meat.
dan friesen
I get it.
jordan holmes
Here's a pint of blood.
I'm type O, so you're even clear on that one.
dan friesen
I appreciate the offer, and I will hold you to that.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
But I will not.
So anyway, we have one last clip, and it's Carrie just being condescending about science and official guidance that people might get.
And again, remember, she thinks that people are being turned into vampires by aliens.
jordan holmes
The only explanation.
kerry cassidy
And these are my suggestions, and I realize that if you think otherwise, you should follow whatever you think.
You should follow whatever your heart tells you.
And if your heart tells you to wear a mask and gloves when you go out of the house, and to cower in your house, etc., then do, by all means, follow that up.
And if you want to believe what you're being told in the mainstream news and all of the propaganda around you, you are certainly welcome to do that as well.
What I am providing here is an alternative view.
jordan holmes
That includes vampires.
kerry cassidy
What I do, I'm a psychic intuitive and I connect the dots.
And so this is what I do and I've been doing this now for 15 years.
dan friesen
That doesn't mean you've...
I've been right about anything.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Well, if she hadn't been doing it this long, wouldn't somebody have stopped her if this was crazy?
dan friesen
No, I think people would just ignore it for the most part.
jordan holmes
Well, that's how we get vampires.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's how we get here.
jordan holmes
That's how we get vampires.
dan friesen
So yeah, you can wear gloves and a mask when you go out if you want to believe the dumb propaganda, but hey, I'm here to tell you that I'm a psychic intuitive and vampires.
What are you going to do?
Vampires.
Disease isn't real.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Also, every other conspiracy that is promoted by the extreme right-wing folks like Alex Jones is true.
That's basically what you got here.
I mean, it's interesting on one level, and again, there's no way I would not do an episode about vampires.
jordan holmes
You've got to have vampires.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
The world must know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Carrie Cassidy thinks that...
China is making vampires.
dan friesen
At the behest of Dragon Moths.
jordan holmes
Yeah, at the behest of Dragon Moths.
dan friesen
That she does not have a good handle on.
jordan holmes
I'm honestly fine with the Dragon Moths.
I get it.
Aliens are out there.
Who knows what they could be.
But when you start bringing vampires into my house?
No.
Can't have it.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
So you're not okay with the dragon moths?
jordan holmes
I'm not okay with the dragon moths for making vampires.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
Up till that point.
jordan holmes
They're fine.
They're fine.
They're leaving us alone for the most part.
Maybe they're doing a diabolical plan here and there, but now they're making vampires, Dan, and I can't allow that.
dan friesen
What, like a bank heist?
What's their diabolical plan?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I don't know.
This is so dumb.
Anyway, the thing that I wanted to really draw sharp focus to, and I think we have, is that some of this is really fun, but the stuff that's not really fun is the same as Alex.
And, you know, it's a point that bears repeating over and over and over again because the same bad thinking will lead you to different places, but also the same place.
It's a problem of technique.
That manifests for Alex in the ways that it does for him and with Carrie in the ways that it does for her.
And she's a little bit more fun sometimes because of vampires.
But it's fundamentally the same thing.
And there's a hundred examples of this.
And that's really the spiritual connection between these two and why they work on our show and some other shows don't.
And a lot of them...
You know, a lot of other options would work in the same way of just being the same bad thinking process being manifested, but they're just not as interesting or not as stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was...
dan friesen
And not so based entirely...
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no!
dan friesen
Not so based entirely on oppositional defiance.
And a staunch denial of reality just because everyone else agrees on it.
Everyone else thinks this, that must mean that it's not true.
My friend who likes bleach got arrested, that must mean that the man was trying to make him look bad because he's right.
Those things are so common with Alex and her.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was just thinking, or I was wondering like...
Was there a moment where they cross-pollinated the sci-fi weirdo community and the hard right-wing community?
I'm trying to go back through history to see if I can remember guys like this.
It's always been there.
Like the worst scammers have almost always been like these hard right guys who believe that part of the part of the reason that you are allowed to get scammed is because you're actually a bad person.
Mm hmm.
in there.
And that belief that everybody else but me is bad is going to lead you down to some hard right bullshit.
dan friesen
And I think that a lot of these paranormal and government oriented conspiracy theories germinated in similar places online.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And the things that drew one to one might draw them to the other as well.
And things like Bill Cooper, he was largely, especially towards later stages of his career, definitely more a patriot militia type of conspiracy theorist, but he had a lot of the paranormal stuff going.
And a lot of the...
Sort of esoteric occult stuff at periods in his career.
So you have a lot of stuff over the last 30-40 years that have been very similar places.
If you're into one, there's a decent chance you might be into the other.
jordan holmes
They're going to be in the same algorithm.
dan friesen
I think that history is almost impossible to ignore.
I think that you see a bit of it manifested in these two different...
jordan holmes
Well, I can put to bed one of my long-held conspiracy theories in that Dick Cheney orchestrated 9-11, because now I know.
It's fucking vampires.
dan friesen
No.
We already know it was Leo Zagami.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
It was Leo Zagami.
Is he a vampire?
unidentified
Shit!
jordan holmes
Damn it!
dan friesen
Alright, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
So close and yet so far.
dan friesen
Right.
We'll be back on Wednesday.
We'll see if Alex is off his deplatforming break.
jordan holmes
We'll see.
dan friesen
Unsure.
But we will find out then.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Right.
We're on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We are on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are!
And if you'd like to download the show, please do iTunes.
Review rate, donate to, et cetera.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back until then.
I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I have achieved Samadhi.
By that I mean I've listened to that live album, Secret Samadhi.
Is that one of Live's albums?
I can't remember.
I just know Throwing Copper was one of their albums.
They had a song called Run to the Water.
And then When the Dolphins Cry.
I heard that on the radio.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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