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#418: April 8, 2020

Knowledge Fight #418: April 8, 2020 dissects Alex Jones’ failed QAnon reveal hype, instead peddling zinc/HCQ claims and debunked NIH graphs. Guests like Cyrus Parsa—who alleges lucid dreams of Trump vs. China’s 5G enslavement—add fringe nonsense, dismissed as repetitive or exploitative. Jones interrupts with ads for sold-out vitamin products, ignoring audience expectations. The episode’s lack of substance underscores his prioritization of profit over promised exposés, leaving conspiracy theories stagnant while mocking his own credibility. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
d
dan friesen
25:58
j
jordan holmes
12:24
Appearances
a
alex jones
infowars 04:57
c
cyrus parsa
01:32
Callers
andy in kansas
callers 00:05
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones
Shang, we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money, need money.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Pandy.
Andy and Pam.
Andy and Kansas.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
andy in kansas
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish pencil over here saying I love your room.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
I like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What do you got for a bright spot?
dan friesen
Well, I just saw that the FDA has sent Alex a seasoned assist letter about his various claims about his silver products.
So in this moment when things look bleak, in some ways, I can take solace in the fact that Alex is getting more letters about his sales practices.
jordan holmes
Even Trump's FDA is like, we can't be doing this shit anymore, guys.
dan friesen
So that's nice.
I'll take a little bit of happiness from that.
jordan holmes
That is nice.
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with Pats.
I got two dogs, and basically all I do with my time now is take pictures of them in cute positions and draw on them.
dan friesen
So you finally figured out Twitter?
jordan holmes
That's exactly how it works.
dan friesen
That's what Twitter is, right?
jordan holmes
I finally got into dog pictures.
dan friesen
That's how you're going to go viral.
jordan holmes
That's my plan.
That's what I'm going to do.
They're cute.
dan friesen
Be sure that you put a QR code on those pictures of the dogs to our podcast.
jordan holmes
There's a QR code for it?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Maybe, maybe not.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
I still do not understand QR codes.
dan friesen
Neither do I, and I never will.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to do that.
dan friesen
I've made a commitment.
I just refuse.
I've sworn on the altar of God, eternal resistance to QR code understanding.
unidentified
QR Anon is what I'm so Jordan.
dan friesen
Today we've got an interesting episode to go over.
We're going over April 8th, 2020.
unidentified
I'm famous.
dan friesen
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
Hey, people have been asking you to bring it back.
dan friesen
I'm going back and forth.
God damn.
So today, this is a really hotly anticipated episode because this is Wednesday of this week.
And if you'll recall, back on April 1st, Wednesday of last week, Alex got really pissy about how everyone liked QAnon and no one likes him.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And so he decided to make a threat on air that he was going to reveal QAnon's identity if they did not reveal themselves by April 8th.
jordan holmes
And he's going to do it today.
dan friesen
He made it very clear that they had until Tuesday.
And if they didn't do it by Tuesday, Wednesday would be the day.
That's the day.
So here is him saying that back on the first.
alex jones
You know what?
I'll just expose it.
Okay, like I gave Joe Rogan a deadline.
I love Joe.
He's a good guy.
I like these guys too.
I give them till next Tuesday to come out with it all.
Or I'm going to expose it next Wednesday.
unidentified
There.
alex jones
Seven days.
There you go.
And get all the documents.
Let's start firing it up.
Get it ready.
Okay.
Just watch.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
There's something real for you, folks.
That's not talk.
unidentified
Okay.
Aha.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
It's something real for you.
It's not talk.
jordan holmes
Not talk.
dan friesen
You would expect that based on that, this is real.
This is not talk.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And Alex on Wednesday will reveal the identity of QAnon.
jordan holmes
Those are the literal definitions of those words.
So it seems like they would be required.
dan friesen
I would say that maybe you could look at this in hindsight as an April Fool's Day prank.
jordan holmes
No, boo.
Boo.
If he pulled that, I'd be so bad.
dan friesen
We'll get to this episode.
This is not going to be a long episode.
This is a really bad episode of Alex's show.
And we'll discuss, you know, the will-he-won't-he of revealing this.
I'm trying to play a little game here where I'm like not going to just tell you right up front that he doesn't reveal who QAnon is, but I kind of just accidentally.
unidentified
He absolutely does.
dan friesen
So anyway, we'll discuss some of this.
But before we get down to business, we're going to take a little moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first of all, Jesse, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Jesse.
dan friesen
Next, Derp.
Thank you so much.
You're an ah policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Derp.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Josie.
Thank you so much.
You're an hour policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thanks, Josie.
dan friesen
Thanks, Josie.
Next, Simon.
Thank you so much.
You're an hour policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Simon.
dan friesen
Thank you, Simon.
Next, Timothy.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Timothy.
dan friesen
Thanks, Timothy.
Next, Colleen.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Colleen.
dan friesen
And unenthusiasm.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Unenthusiasm.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first of all, Drew, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And John, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full-tilt buggy on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Drew, and thank you so much, John.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and thinking, hey, I enjoy the show.
I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or you could find a local charity in your area and sport some folks.
jordan holmes
We would love it if you did either.
dan friesen
There you go.
Hey, we figured it out.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So we start off this episode, not maybe surprisingly, maybe unsurprisingly, talking not about the identity of QAnon.
Not at all.
It's more about Xeanon.
That's zinc.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Trump has come out and he has mentioned zinc in his press conference.
jordan holmes
Yes, because we live in the worst timeline.
dan friesen
So now Alex is going buck wild on this.
He's pretending that he got kicked off of all like the Google App Store, the Android apps, because he was like, hey, man, I just told people to drink quinine.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Tonic water.
Hey, it's great.
alex jones
A caller called about it a month ago, and I made some calls.
I said, yeah, they won't let us prescribe hydroxychloroquine, but all that is is a prescription version of quinine.
We're giving our patients Canada dry tonic water.
They banned me off of the Google app for that.
They said specifically for that and hydroxychloroquine that day.
Took about a week to do it.
So that's how pissed they are that I'm just telling you you don't have to.
See, if you don't have oxygen, you die in about four minutes.
Everybody knows that.
It's essential.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows that.
alex jones
But if you don't have zinc, you die in a few months, folks.
jordan holmes
That's true.
alex jones
Called starving to death.
And the foods are so damn empty.
That's the case.
So yes, folks, get your vitamin D3.
Yes, get your zinc.
And absolutely, get all your multivitamins and get them from a non-synthetic source.
And absolutely, I'm saying you need oxygen to live.
And I'm saying we have the real red pill and real red pill plus that has all the vitamins and minerals and protone.
That's for adults.
We have, by the way, vitamin Real Fusion.
I keep plugging it.
It's been sold out for two weeks.
They didn't tell me that.
It's back in stock.
Hey, showed up yesterday.
dan friesen
That's all this is, man.
The first, like, I don't know what it is, but when I do this show and the preparation of the show, there's like, there are different kind of feelings that I have.
And a lot of the time I can really indulge in and enjoy Alex's stupidity and all this.
I don't know why, but today I cannot.
I am sick of the bullshit.
I am not interested.
Just listening to them do that over and over again, basically, is really frustrating.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Partially because he's supposed to be revealing who QAnon is.
jordan holmes
That is what it stated.
dan friesen
Yeah, really bumming me out that he's not doing that.
jordan holmes
Right off the top.
dan friesen
Let's do just fucking rambling about zinc and his real red pill and shit.
It's like, oh, God, this is just, it's not what I want.
jordan holmes
It's exhausting.
I'm exhausted.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
I'm just so tired of it.
That's how he wins, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, kind of.
jordan holmes
Like, you get out of fight.
You're just like, he's never going to stop.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's just never going to stop.
dan friesen
And when he gives you the things that get you really excited, like a threat to reveal QAnon, and then he spends the following days just like, you know, doing propaganda narratives that he's ripped off from Jordan Sather and other QA resources.
And then he doesn't do his big reveal.
It's just like, what the fuck are you even doing, man?
It's just, oh, God, just the potential and the tease and no release.
Just God.
jordan holmes
He's been edging you for three years now, Dan.
dan friesen
It's very frustrating.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're never going to come.
It's just never going to happen.
dan friesen
Probably not.
So Alex has been kicked off all these social media things and all this.
Big tech, they're censoring him.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But you should be afraid of them, obviously.
unidentified
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
But you're not because they look like hippies.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
If they wore suits, you'd be scared of them.
And then Alex gets a little bit, I don't know, homophobic against Tim.
jordan holmes
Sure, why not?
alex jones
Just because they look like, you know, dirty hippies wearing different colored socks and they're at Burning Man, that's their sick cover.
They were wearing Hugo boss, you know, Nazi uniforms, you'd be scared of them.
But because they're so unprofessional looking, you just let them fop around, you know, because Tim Cook's hopping around like a fairy up there.
I'm gay, I'm gay.
No, you're a mass murderer criminal.
Who cares if you're gay?
jordan holmes
You can be both.
alex jones
Fairying around is just their cover.
dan friesen
I think that's a little bit of a gross thing there at the end, but I think I really only kept that clip around because of the obsession that he has with people wearing two different colored socks.
That comes up so much.
jordan holmes
I don't understand it.
He's just got that thing.
unidentified
Oh, you weirdos with your different colored socks.
jordan holmes
That has like his mom written all over it.
Like when he was nine.
dan friesen
He yelled mom titty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he said it.
She's like, put the right fucking socks on.
Mom, titty.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's some like actual personal story behind the colored socks thing, probably.
It's very, it's very mysterious.
jordan holmes
It's a no more hanging wires situation or wire hangers.
dan friesen
So Alex has some graphs that he's touting that he purports to say show that this virus, the whole situation is basically a hoax.
alex jones
Okay, of course.
dan friesen
It's because he's pushing this as largely a malnutrition situation now.
It's a zinc deficiency.
Why not?
Because we're selling zinc.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
We've got the graphs from the NIH, the graphs from the university.
They all show the same thing.
And that's with them putting false data in.
But here's the paradox.
jordan holmes
Wait.
alex jones
You're saying, Alex, you just said that this thing's a hoax and used to take our liberty, but you're saying the virus is real.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
Millions and millions die a year from malnutrition, and then regular cold and regular flu kills you.
Malnutrition is a giant issue.
We talk about it here with Mike Adams and so many others.
And we've said the answer is getting the zinc, getting the vitamin D, getting the vitamin C.
And if you get sick, the hydroxychloroquine to push it in, but it's still dangerous.
dan friesen
Alex has been saying that a lot lately.
And I will say that he used to say stuff like that a lot more back when Youongevity and Dr. Wallach were his main sponsors.
He certainly said that sort of stuff a lot, much more back then.
That hasn't been his number one concern for a while now.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, so his belief basically is that you're seeing the numbers going down.
Perhaps the flattening of the curve is underway.
Sure.
And Alex believes he's found a quote from Dr. Burks about them taking people who have tested positive who die, and they're included as COVID-19 deaths.
Yes.
And then, of course, there's an autopsy, and it's determined whether or not they actually died from complications of the condition.
jordan holmes
It could have been the two bullet wounds, could have been COVID-19.
You'll never know the answer.
dan friesen
It's not ever that, but that's what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
And so he's determined through out-of-context headlines that he's read that they're just saying anybody who has a cold is now COVID-19 numbers.
And so they're making fake numbers.
That's basically where he's at.
It's very boring.
jordan holmes
It's fun to me that ability to just wave away a very reasonable criticism with lies.
He's like, look, now you're thinking, how is it that you can call it a hoax and then one second later say the virus is real?
Well, here's some bullshit that doesn't answer that question.
dan friesen
It's malnutrition, man.
jordan holmes
No, that still doesn't answer the.
dan friesen
Just get some zinc.
jordan holmes
No, you can't just bring up like, okay, here's why Captain Kirk like, no, uh-uh, not going to happen.
You answer the question.
dan friesen
So as we see, the numbers are going down, sort of.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
And Alex has an explanation for this that he has absolutely no basis in making.
unidentified
Of course.
alex jones
If you get sick, the hydroxychloroquine to push it in, but it's still dangerous.
They don't want you to know that, but the people have bought it off the shelves everywhere and are self-medicating.
And that's why the numbers are going down.
Because people learn the truth, and now they're in your message, your private messages.
dan friesen
So they're in your private messages.
So if you're texting about chloroquine, the AI will shut you down or something.
But yeah, so apparently everyone's gone out to the store and bought this hydroxychloroquine, and that's why numbers are going down.
jordan holmes
I feel like that's still illegal by implication.
dan friesen
It's iffy.
It is iffy.
You might be getting another letter.
jordan holmes
He's not saying, but he's saying that if you have it, it'll help the curve go down.
I'm still going to go with that's evil.
dan friesen
It's not the kind of thing I would like to see out of him.
So he's pretty mad about the New York Times because they have recently put out an article that discusses a little bit of a financial stake Trump had in a company that produces hydroxychloroquine.
jordan holmes
He's mad at them for doing journalism, yes.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think that he's probably more mad at other people's tweets about the article than the article itself.
I would assume that, because here's his take on it.
alex jones
Coming up next hour, I'll show you where the New York Times accused Trump of pushing hydroxychloroquine to make money.
They went and looked at some stock portfolio he had, and he had less than $400 at the peak of the stock market, $435 at the low, $29.
Oh, yes.
That's why he's pushing a generic drug that no one makes money off of.
Evil, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
So they did report on a small investment that Trump has in one of his funds.
It's not even a direct investment.
And one of these funds invests in a company called Sanofi, which produces Plaquenil, which is the brand name of hydroxychloroquine.
I don't think that most of the reporting surrounding this suggested that it was his motivation for touting it as a miracle cure.
I think that's probably just tweets that Alex has saw.
But I think it's kind of understandable for people to have that reaction on Twitter.
I mean, like, Trump's corrupt as hell.
Yeah.
So when you have the appearance of impropriety, it's going to give people like, you're not going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're at what?
We're at what, like, five or six senators now who have committed very obvious crimes by taking secret information and using it to make money.
That seems like now is a good time to remove all benefit of the doubt for elected officials and stealing money from us.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's it, it's, it's a mess.
And I understand, like, you know, there's also the article that was about how like Michael Cohen had gotten some money, Trump's lawyer had gotten some money to get the guy.
Access to for the other company, the Novartis.
But like, I still don't think that even the articles that I read about that were saying like, this is why he's behaving this way.
This is why you can't have someone like this be president.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because the appearance of impropriety is here.
All questions and all, like, all things are up for grabs.
It's hard to deduce what the reality is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it'd be like if Jimmy Carter kept his peanut farm and then, using his power as president, raised the price of peanuts by 10 million percent.
dan friesen
And killed baby nut.
jordan holmes
Take that.
Planners.
It's Carter's now.
dan friesen
So the New York Times, they don't want you to have the hydroxychloroquine, right?
They're attacking the idea of having it and saying, like, oh, Trump just wants to push it on you because he has a financial interest.
But the reality is, man, they're all taking it.
alex jones
They're all taking zinc at the New York Times.
They're all got their hydroxychloroquine ready.
They're all taking D3.
They're all taking vitamin C.
And then they're there making sure you don't get it because they want maximum death for maximum hysteria for maximum lockdown of the economy.
So you'll accept the force inoculation.
And it's all official, and we predicted it all.
jordan holmes
It's all official.
It's all official.
When did they make it official?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Alex tested everyone at the New York Times for hydroxychloroquine.
jordan holmes
That would be a smart idea.
That would be a better reveal than who QAnon is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know how this is all official.
jordan holmes
Secretly, we got swabs from the entire staff at the New York Times.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's just, I don't know what it is.
There's just something about how I'm feeling that I hear stuff like this, and my reaction to it today is to roll my eyes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's like, hey, go fuck yourself.
alex jones
Have fun, Alex.
jordan holmes
I think that's a fine thing.
I do too.
I think we all need a vacation from giving a shit.
We all just need to listen to him and go, fuck you.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's tough for me to give myself permission to do that because I feel like it's so much like, you know, within my nature to like, oh, well, let's find out if anybody at the New York Times is on hydroxychloroquine.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
No, we don't need to do that.
dan friesen
Sometimes they're just like, oh, fucking fly a kite, you asshole.
jordan holmes
Today is a girl.
dan friesen
Fuck yourself day.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And that might, I mean, that makes this episode, like, I don't even know if we're going to make it to an hour on this episode.
I don't even know if we're going to make it to 40 minutes because I was listening to this entire thing, and it is trash.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It is a horrible episode of his show.
A large part of the beginning is just like, hey, I'm right about zinc and hydroxychloroquine.
And like, we've talked about this a ton already.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Don't need to belabor it.
Then he has two guests.
One of them is a guy who just interviewed David Icke about a bunch of coronavirus conspiracy nonsense.
5G makes you susceptible to it.
unidentified
What have you?
jordan holmes
That makes enough sense.
dan friesen
Totally.
100% legit.
Great stuff.
And so this guy apparently had his video taken down from YouTube or something along those lines.
And it's just them complaining about this.
jordan holmes
They're just whining.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
We've got an interview where we whine together about how we're so victimized and we don't have to.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
A whole almost hour of the show is this useless interview with a guy who interviewed David Icke.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
I don't care about David Icke.
I don't care about the guy who interviewed David Icke.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
That's a little bit like the drunk guy at the end of the bar who's 55 years old and you're just like, hey, man, you seem lonely.
And he's like, you know, I almost made it to the majors once.
And you're like, oh, fuck.
I'm going to be here for an hour.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
It's the drunk guy at the end of the bar.
He's like, I knew someone who almost made the majors.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
It's even worse.
So much worse.
dan friesen
Worse of the story.
Secondhand bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't have any clips of that interview with the guy.
I think his show is called like London Real.
And I just don't care.
I was listening to it.
I could not be bothered to give a shit.
And I just, you know what?
Here's the God's honest truth.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If this wasn't the episode where Alex said that he was going to reveal the identity of QAnon, we wouldn't be doing it.
We would not be.
jordan holmes
Would not have chance.
dan friesen
No.
Because I was listening to it and like, all right, is there something go on here?
Something go on here.
Nope.
Just, I have 10 clips total from this episode.
jordan holmes
You know what bums me out?
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
No conspiracy theorists are stepping up.
That's what really bums me about this whole thing is that they're all doing the same shitty, boring lie that Trump is peddling.
Nobody is really stepping up and giving me something absolutely insane.
They've been bitching about 5G forever and they just added the virus to it.
They've been bitching about big pharma and now they've just got their bud and they're all doing it.
We got the globalists and they're doing the whole thing to raise specific bioweapon, replace the population with forced inoculations.
All of this is the same shit.
We just added the virus.
I want something new, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, you know what the problem is?
I bet that there are some really good conspiracy theory stuff going on in the open mic scene.
In the conspiracy open mics.
jordan holmes
In the conspiracy open mics?
dan friesen
Like weird message boards you'll never be on.
Deep three-view videos on YouTube.
jordan holmes
It's like the flowering of alternative comedy all over again.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We got the conspiracy theory boom and now we got the independent guys who are really going to work on the craft of conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
There's something going on bubbling under the surface, I'm sure, but it's so inaccessible to us.
We would never know who these young guns are.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Until they release the conspiracies of comedian conspiracies.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Sarah Silverman on the, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, then there'll be guests on Alex's show.
unidentified
For sure, for sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, for now, it's pretty.
We're stuck in that sort of almost corporate conspiracy.
jordan holmes
It really is corporate.
dan friesen
It is a little bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, Fox News is giving us all our conspiracy theories now.
The president, the establishment is giving us our conspiracy theories.
We don't have anybody in the weeds, you know?
dan friesen
Yep.
And all the people in the weeds are just slightly weirder versions of the same thing.
Like Gary Cassidy in Project Camelot is like, okay, you believe more or less the same thing, but then there's rappers.
jordan holmes
There's aliens.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
Great.
Give me something good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a real bummer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has that guest on, the London Real Guy.
And like I said.
jordan holmes
London fake more like.
dan friesen
Zero.
All right.
Zero interest.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex has a, before that, he has another guest on.
And it was a guy who I'd never heard of before.
And this guy is trouble.
He is a problem.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He's a problem for me because I really have about a 50-50 feeling about even talking about him.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because I think that he's unwell.
Oh, okay.
If he was someone who was on Project Camelot, I wouldn't talk about him.
jordan holmes
You wouldn't talk about him.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
And he belongs on Project Camelot.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
Because I think that there is a mental unwellness to him.
jordan holmes
It's not that he wears the same outfit that you do.
It's just no.
dan friesen
So his name is Cyrus Parsa.
And I was probably going to ignore a good bit of this, but then this clip happened, and I was like, this is so, like, this is in our wheelhouse.
In the same way that that clip about the people wearing two-colored socks, it's like, this is a running gag on our show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
cyrus parsa
I researched probably over a thousand artificial intelligence companies, by engineer companies, biometric companies, and I investigate them as well.
500 were Chinese and over 600 were Western companies, which comprised of American companies, European companies, and some other companies in Japan and other places.
alex jones
Why will you tell folks about what you're doing about just a subnation, about all the because I watched your show from the other talk show?
I was here on InfoWars.
It was powerful.
dan friesen
Got a mouthful of chicken.
unidentified
See, this is this is bullshit.
jordan holmes
This is deserving of a go fuck yourself.
dan friesen
You're eating during your show.
jordan holmes
If you don't want me to sit here and eat a sandwich and not give a shit, then you should sit here and eat a sandwich.
dan friesen
It would be so great if there's like a, you know, the guy stops talking.
He's like, well, you know, do you have any questions?
And then it just cuts to like Alex with the big submarine sandwich, a gigantic novelty-sized sandwich.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Looking surprised by the camera.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Why do you put a giant gun on your desk every day, man?
Get a big ass sandwich and just take fingerling bites of it the whole day.
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's so fucking funny to me.
Like, I get it, man.
You got to eat.
jordan holmes
It is like a Looney Tunes gag.
It is like a Looney Tunes gag.
dan friesen
You do it during the commercial break.
I was like, not in the middle of an interview.
jordan holmes
It's rude.
dan friesen
It happens all the time.
Which leads me to think that maybe he's constantly eating.
jordan holmes
I think he might be.
We only catch him.
dan friesen
How can it happen so regularly during these interviews?
jordan holmes
If it's happening every time.
dan friesen
It has to be happening every single day.
But then why don't you do it during the commercials?
There's minutes during the commercial.
It's not like he's stuck on air straight for four hours.
And it's not like four hours is like he gets on air at 11.
You could have a snack and then at three, have a nice meal or something.
jordan holmes
He gets low blood sugar in the middle of the show.
He's got to take a bite.
He's got to keep going.
dan friesen
Great Snickers commercial.
Alex Jones in the middle of a rant about devils.
Then someone gives him a Snickers.
And he just talks about zinc.
jordan holmes
It is.
Because you got to figure that he gets caught like what?
I mean, even if you're really bad at getting caught for doing stuff, you only get caught like 25% of the time, right?
So you got to figure he's eating all the time throughout these interviews.
dan friesen
You'd think, yeah.
jordan holmes
And I think my suspicion is that it is absolutely a sign of disrespect.
And it is on purpose.
I think he really knows when it's like, even this guy's a dud, and I don't give a fuck if I get caught eating.
dan friesen
Even if it's not an intentional sign of disrespect, it's a disrespect.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's actually.
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
It's also a disrespect to the audience.
It's a disrespect to the show.
It's a disrespect to everyone.
unidentified
I want more shows to do this.
jordan holmes
I want Rush Limbaugh to just eat chips throughout his whole, no, man.
dan friesen
I saw an interview with you and it was powerful.
Powerful.
jordan holmes
The government is doing.
Hold on, one second.
Oh, that's good stuff.
Anyways, the government.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this dude, he's what you might call like a self-styled 5G expert.
And Alex wanted him to come on to talk about the AI takeover.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But I just couldn't care.
And I heard that clip of Alex very clearly eating while talking to him.
Like, well, all right, fine.
I'm going to have to bring up that he's on the show.
So, as I was listening to it, I was like, okay, he's just, he's researched all these companies and all this, and, you know, whatever.
I'm not really interested in any of this.
He wrote a book about Trump against the AI and stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
Why not?
dan friesen
This next clip is where I got really, really worried about Alex having this guy on as a guest.
cyrus parsa
In 99, I had to wish to stop what's going to happen 20 years from now.
Go to China because I got the monks.
Come back, finish a book called Better People, Better World, the book to save and change a better world.
02.
Nobody takes me seriously.
I had some kind of say a lucid dream in the future.
I see white president 6'34 becomes in power.
Then there's almost a civil war.
Everything's in chaos.
People were the whole world was attacking him.
And because he was being attacked, he couldn't stop all these bad things that were going to happen.
A lot of people died.
It was a lucid dream, but I put it aside.
No one took me seriously.
jordan holmes
It's a good idea.
cyrus parsa
Bachelor's International Security Conference Resolution, Master's in Homeland Security, PhD.
They kicked me out because I wouldn't promote pedophilia.
unidentified
And I saw him coming up the escalators.
cyrus parsa
I'm like, that's the guy in my dream.
Maybe there's something to that.
dan friesen
That's really troubling to me.
That kind of thinking is that's not what I want in an expert.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I'm certain of that.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Here's what I want in my 5G expert.
dan friesen
And let me tell you, I'm a guy who's into lucid dreaming.
I do believe that you can control your dreams.
I think there's an amazing power that lives within the subconscious and women.
But I still don't.
I don't believe in this guy's prophetic lucid dream.
unidentified
Fair.
dan friesen
I don't believe.
I believe this is a repackaged story.
I believe this is something that he's come up more recently.
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Here's what I want a 5G expert to say.
I have degrees and things that are unrelated, but I saw seven years in Tibet, so I think I got this under control, guys.
dan friesen
That was a good movie.
It was a great movie.
So this dude, like I said, self-styled.
I don't know about those degrees he's saying he has.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know if I agree or believe in any way that he was kicked out of school for not agreeing to promote pedophilia.
jordan holmes
It sounds right.
dan friesen
I think that sounds dicey.
So interestingly, on April 2nd of this year, this dude, Cyrus, he posted an article on his website about Biden being involved in some kind of a bioweapon transfer to China.
jordan holmes
Sounds good.
dan friesen
That article itself is not interesting.
But what's fun is that his tweet promoting the post, in that tweet, he includes the hashtags, hashtag QAnons and hashtag great awakening, which are pretty good indications that Cyrus Parsa is a big old QAnon guy.
jordan holmes
Oh, maybe this was a stealth way of reasoning.
Cyrus is the guy behind it the whole way.
This is Alex revealing who QAnon is.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Surreptitiously.
dan friesen
He is not.
jordan holmes
He had to fulfill his promise.
dan friesen
Scrolling through the dude's timeline, there's a bunch of tweets with these hashtags, as well as Q, which is the QAnon name for Trump.
It's so funny on this episode where Alex is supposed to expose who Q was.
He instead is interviewing the QAnon weirdo about AI nonsense.
Absolutely.
Also, Cyrus Parsa is the guy who claims to have filed the lawsuit against pretty much all of the villains of the extreme right, quote, on behalf of the world's people on pure altruistic reasons to prevent harm to the world's citizens.
Like I said, this guy has Project Camelot written all over him.
jordan holmes
That is a really, yeah, but I mean, that's a pure way of doing it.
You know, he's better than the guys we normally talk about.
And if it takes a little bit of crazy to get there, it's better than the crazy that we deal with all day.
This is a man who's filing lawsuits altruistically, Dan.
He's not selling zinc in these lawsuits.
dan friesen
I bet Larry Klayman says that he's doing it altruistically.
I imagine he thinks that he is.
jordan holmes
I don't think Larry Klayman understands what altruism means.
dan friesen
Think that this dude is altruism to me is giving Roger Stone your computers.
I hate to say this because I don't know how it's going to sound, but this guy, he seems out of his element on InfoWars.
Like, he doesn't seem like he's ready for the show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There's a lot of people who are terrible and bad guests.
You know, like Alex has various Holocaust deniers and Steve Pieczenik.
I mean, I guess that's the same thing.
But, you know, he has awful people on his guests, but they're a little slicker, not as like, oh, no.
I was listening to this.
I'm like, oh, no.
You're on this show talking about a lucid dream that you had about Trump saving the world.
Right.
You're not ready.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Now, I mean, hey, the first big show I did as a stand-up, I was, I'll admit, I wasn't ready for.
You know, I had a rough set, but I learned from that experience.
I'm sure the next time he goes on an InfoWars show, he's going to have it down.
This guy is going to get it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if he gets a stern talking to from Alex, I don't think that's going to be.
Don't bring up your dreams.
You make us look like Project Camelot.
jordan holmes
I was in Waking Life.
I already did that.
dan friesen
So, lest you think that Alex is going to hear this guy talk about his prophecies and he's going to be like, oh, I got to go.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
He loves it.
alex jones
Cyrus Parsa is an author, researcher, security expert, very smart guy.
And, you know, he says a lot of things that sound far out.
He has his own names for him.
It's dead on.
As everybody knows, we've been very cutting edge.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
He's right on.
jordan holmes
Really?
Man, that's a commitment.
That's a commitment.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So I only have one more clip left.
And it's.
jordan holmes
It's him revealing who QAnon is, right?
dan friesen
No.
Oh, God damn it.
Unfortunately.
It's Cyrus talking about how we all owe our lives to Trump.
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't think that's true for hundreds of thousands of people.
cyrus parsa
The interconnection of just Huawei alone.
Huawei is a grit system that links China, Middle East, Europe, Africa.
And if it wasn't for President Trump, China would be enslaving us right now.
unidentified
President Trump, save all your butts.
cyrus parsa
If it wasn't for him right now, maybe half the country would be dead and maybe everyone else would be enslaved.
Beyond that, everybody in Kuduna left, you owe President Trump your life and you've been attacking him like a fool.
So that's what.
dan friesen
That sounds like an angry child.
jordan holmes
If that's true, I do agree.
I do owe an apology to Trump.
If it was death or slavery and Trump stopped that with all the other stuff, I'm going to have to say sorry.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
He.
jordan holmes
I don't think it's true, though.
dan friesen
No.
I would say that Cyrus is like just past the line of like where I'm comfortable making fun of somebody.
Yeah, yeah.
I hear him and I get bummed out.
I don't really enjoy the idea of because that that to me just sounds indicative of adolescent processing.
jordan holmes
I think it's almost worse that he is acting from like that idea of him acting altruistically is almost worse.
Like with Alex, I get it.
You're trying to make money.
You're on your hustle bullshit.
You know, I'm going to make fun of you because you're a complete asshole liar.
Fucker.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But with this guy, it's like, oh, you really do think you're doing the right thing.
And that's because you're not all the way to where you should be.
dan friesen
Well, I don't, I don't.
See, this is where it gets really muddy for me is like how much of that is me overreading things.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I can only.
jordan holmes
And infantilizing, maybe.
A little bit.
dan friesen
It's tough to say, but it's, I don't believe that this dude is processing reality accurately.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I have a sense of that from the things that he's saying, the way he leaps from one thing to another.
unidentified
Yeah, it just and I just don't like it.
dan friesen
I don't do not like Alex having him on as a guest.
Yeah, it really bums me out.
Yeah, it's the same thing with, but to a lesser degree, because I didn't even cover that.
Like when he had that 12, 13-year-old who would just say offensive things in YouTube videos.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I hate him having people like that on because I can't cover that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I can't, I can't do that.
jordan holmes
It's too nakedly exploitative.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it would even, I think, be exploitative for us to really do too much time talking about it.
With Cyrus, at least, like, I mean, he's got two degrees, man.
jordan holmes
He's got more degrees than I do.
He's got more degrees than I do.
dan friesen
Allegedly.
jordan holmes
And I have never been kicked out of a PhD for any reason.
So he's got that on me, too.
And if telling the truth, this guy might be a hero.
dan friesen
Well, that case is not going to make it through the course.
jordan holmes
I think you might be right on it.
dan friesen
I will tell you that with I had a lucid dream in 2002 about that case failing.
And I got to say, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I went to Tibet to pray for that case to succeed, Dan.
So we might be at cross purposes here.
unidentified
Which deities are fighting it out for us?
dan friesen
That case is not going to win.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
dan friesen
I see.
Almost certain that it didn't get filed and is just an imaginary thing.
That's probably no idea.
I don't know, man.
It's just when you do this show, you got to hold on to those things that are exciting.
And Alex, when he says that he's going to reveal QAnon, and he's cocky as shit about it, and he says, this is something real.
This isn't talk.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I want to believe him because he's an adult.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
He's a person.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
He's not somebody who should just be able to get away with things like that, like saying, I'm going to do this, get the documents ready, and then not do it.
I don't appreciate that.
So we come to Wednesday, and I just, I feel, I feel like he's eating a sandwich while trying to talk to me.
It's just disrespectful.
This level of shit.
And the fact that he's having this dude, this Cyrus guy, on who is way out of left field, completely out of his depth, and a QAnon guy.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
dan friesen
It's just, it's a level of self-parody that Alex is engaged in that, like, I just, I'm, I'm, I'm, it might just be my mood.
I'm having a tough time enjoying it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's, it's, it, it is something that I want to tell him to stop.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I gotta, I gotta let you, I gotta let you go, buddy.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
It's tough, Dan.
You, you expect, you know, you, you hope for the best from the worst people, and sometimes you expect the worst from the best people.
And that puts you in a tough situation whenever you're dealing with the worst people who are always giving you the worst shit.
dan friesen
True.
And I think that I put myself in this situation too, because I've been really expecting that he wasn't going to not do it this time.
jordan holmes
Of course.
You were trying to, and yet still you got your hopes up, didn't you?
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've been sort of like, oh, here comes.
jordan holmes
Could happen.
Maybe this time.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You are the most Charlie Brown.
dan friesen
Well, because it seemed in his interests.
Like, it seemed like it was in his interest.
And there was, like, there are people that he could have pointed to that exist.
There are some names out there if you want to look into who people believe are the people behind QAnon.
Alex could have gone with any of that shit.
Like, he could have, he could have just re-reported something that you can find in the Daily Beast.
jordan holmes
Doesn't he know that he needs to start a feud?
He's got to start a feud.
Like, that's his only real move now.
dan friesen
That's what I thought this was going to be.
And that's also what works for his best interest.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Because he makes in the same way that wrestling gets more eyes on the product when there's a good fight.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You want to see these two people go against each other?
It's the same thing.
Alex needs to get eyes on the product by starting up a good beef.
jordan holmes
I don't want to give him advice, but I say go after Turning Point USA.
Alex can't beat Nick Fuentes.
No, but Nick Fuentes was murdered.
dan friesen
Nick's already owned that space.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
That's why I'm saying jump in there.
Try and co-opt Nick's movement.
dan friesen
No, Nick will co-opt him, if anything.
You've already, you are not taking into account how easily Nick took over the C-PAC of Alexander.
jordan holmes
I know.
I'm just thinking, you know, Foreman, you know, he got his ass kicked for a while and then he came back later in life and he won.
Come on, man.
We got to get one more big win from Alex.
That's what I feel like he's got left.
dan friesen
I mean, if you think about it, there's like, okay, what do you do?
Steven Crowder?
No.
jordan holmes
No, you're right.
dan friesen
Crowder will still let Alex come on as a guest every now and again.
Alex needs that kind of attention.
Can't fight him.
Turning point, not a terrible idea, but Nick already owns that.
Can't do it.
Trump, no good.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
Then you're going to get piled on by everybody.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Although maybe that's a space that you can carve out.
You know, there are so many never trumpers.
Never Trumpers are all like trying to act like they're aloof and they're above all of this bullshit, even though they've gleefully accepted all of it in the past so long as you weren't rude.
But Alex could be the only never Trumper who is furiously and violently insane.
dan friesen
I don't know if he'd be the only one, but he'd certainly have a bit of that marketplace.
I think he could take it.
I think you're probably right.
I think that's what he should do, but I don't think he will.
jordan holmes
No, he's a coward.
dan friesen
And it would require taking a real serious hit in the short term in order to stay solvent in the long term.
And I don't think he has the ability to do that.
jordan holmes
He can't stay solvent in either term.
dan friesen
No, what you want is a flashy feud with someone that is kind of like beatable.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't think there are many options for him.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Jordan Peterson.
Kind of disappeared, right?
jordan holmes
Stefan Molyneux is pretty much gone now, right?
dan friesen
No, he's still, I mean, he's still like on, still puts out videos and stuff.
jordan holmes
What an ass.
dan friesen
But I don't think Alex would want to attack him.
jordan holmes
Too many agreements.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's now friends with E. Michael Jones.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Can't do that.
No.
I say, here's what you do.
Here's what you do.
You fucking PR it.
You go the old route and you manufacture a beef.
So he goes up against the Oath Keepers, Dan.
How about that?
dan friesen
Oh, so they're in on it together?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
They're all figuring it out the whole time.
They're playing it off of each other.
dan friesen
What would everybody know?
It's not going to be about, though.
They're so in line with each other.
jordan holmes
Let's see.
What do we got?
I don't know.
Isn't the Oath Keepers guy a little bit more reasonable with, hey, let's not all die from COVID?
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
I thought I remember one time where he was like, hey, I know that this is all crazy, but you know, it's still a good idea to stay inside and all that shit.
dan friesen
No, I think that was Mike Adams who was saying that for a little while.
jordan holmes
Okay.
And you can't get into a fight with Mike Adams.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
And David Knight would be boring.
See, I think maybe the way you go is Palace Intrigue.
You, oh, oh, here we go.
Here's what we do.
All right.
It's time to put our boy over.
Owen Schroer.
Yeah, I think it's time to put him over.
The two of them have to start an on-air feud at their own network and then charity boxing.
dan friesen
I could see them getting that desperate, but I don't think it would interest many people.
I think that most people would just be like, all right, this is sad.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
It would be sad.
dan friesen
And no matter who wins, who cares?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Owen?
dan friesen
Maybe.
Yeah, I don't know what the answer is, but it's not this.
And this sucks, man.
It just fucking sucks.
Boo, Alex.
Boo.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, and you know what?
Hey, this episode's short.
unidentified
If you want to be mad about it, don't be mad at me.
dan friesen
Don't be mad at me.
I tried.
jordan holmes
Alex is ruining our show.
That's how bad Alex is.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex had one job.
He gave it to himself.
jordan holmes
He committed to it.
dan friesen
He had a week to prepare.
And he did nothing.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
Nothing.
He probably doesn't even remember.
Probably the worst part.
That's the worst part.
He probably doesn't even remember.
dan friesen
Of course not.
jordan holmes
God damn him.
dan friesen
What a dick.
jordan holmes
Does he not know that there are people hanging on his every word?
Ooh, that's inexplicably unhappy.
dan friesen
I'm not hanging on his every word.
I know.
But weird words.
Yes.
Yes.
Got to hang on those weird words.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So we'll keep our eyes on this space and see if Alex eventually reveals QAnon.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Oh, what a fucking bummer.
jordan holmes
I know.
It was destined to happen.
Yeah.
It was inevitable.
dan friesen
You know what sucks, though?
Because we've talked about this already.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That it was going to be a disappointment.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But you know what sucks?
It wasn't even a good disappointment.
No.
It was the worst possible path.
Because there's the option of him revealing a bad name, like a fake name.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
There's the option of him.
jordan holmes
Armin Temserian.
That's true.
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's the option of him pretending he didn't say it.
There's the option of him just complaining about QAnon and not revealing it.
jordan holmes
Now that would be fun.
unidentified
The one option that he did take was just be boring.
dan friesen
Complain about zinc and 5G all episode and not even address the fact that you made a commitment.
jordan holmes
You expect the best from the worst people, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's kind of beautiful in a way.
dan friesen
Doesn't feel like it.
jordan holmes
It's incredibly infuriating as well.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I want the people to fail better.
dan friesen
That's one of the things.
So frustrating.
So frustrating.
Anyway, Boo, Alex, shame on you for doing this stupid pageant.
And I hope QAnon eats you alive.
jordan holmes
I kind of do too.
You have it coming now.
You lust.
You lost.
dan friesen
Yep.
So sorry about the short episode.
We'll be back on Monday with another normal episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
It's also QAnon.com.
jordan holmes
It's not also QAnon.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bedqannon.com.
dan friesen
And at QAnon.
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
Facebook.com/slash QAnon, 9943-21094.
dan friesen
Tune in Monday because we are going to reveal who QAnon isn't.
Sure.
Yeah.
Anyway, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am QAnon.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a Christian Color.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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