#417: April 5, 2020
Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Sunday's episode of Alex Jones' show because he couldn't make it in to work on Monday. In this installment, Dan finds a new rival based on vocal patterns and Mike Adams finds a new fake miracle drug.
Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Sunday's episode of Alex Jones' show because he couldn't make it in to work on Monday. In this installment, Dan finds a new rival based on vocal patterns and Mike Adams finds a new fake miracle drug.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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and endure knowledge fight need money stop it it's time to pray I'm Kansas. | |
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
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Hey, everybody. | |
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| You go first. | ||
| I go first? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because I have a rant. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I assume this has nothing to do with WrestleMania, so I will say that my bright spot is we were on this week's episode of Opening Arguments. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| It was a ton of fun. | ||
| Yeah, big thanks to Andrew and Thomas over there. | ||
| I appreciate them having us on. | ||
| A lot less legal conversation than I expected for a legal podcast. | ||
| You know, there's not a ton of legal questions I have about Alex. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because a lot of it is just sort of blanketly, like, yeah, you can get away with saying a ton of shit. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like my main conclusion from being on a law podcast was everything Alex does should be against the law, and yet somehow it's not. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So there's no point in talking about it, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, but super fun, and thanks to them again for having us. | ||
| Check that out if you have not heard it. | ||
| My bright spot is night two of WrestleMania from Sunday. | ||
| I'm shocked. | ||
| I am shocked. | ||
| Cheers and jeers. | ||
| Yeah, let's do a whole segment. | ||
| Jeers to the Randy Orton and Edge last man standing match. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They built up a great feud between the two of them. | ||
| It was really engaging as a storyline, but that match went on 40 minutes. | ||
| It went on 40 minutes? | ||
| It was too long. | ||
| 40 minutes! | ||
| I got very bored. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Last man standing matches are very difficult because what you have to do is you have to beat up the other person to the point where they can't stand up within 10 seconds. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And so there's always the tension of, like, getting to eight seconds and struggling to get to your feet. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| That just draws. | ||
| It's such a fucking stretch. | ||
| Classic Mike Tyson punch-out rules. | ||
| It's very frustrating. | ||
| But all of that was banished from my mind after the John Cena and Bray Wyatt Firefly Funhouse match, which was... | ||
| The best. | ||
| We were talking after the show one night, and you were like, what I'm looking... | ||
| The Fiend has a habit of pulling out people's old past characters and bringing them to the fore, and then I read the next day about Dr. Thuganomics, and I'm like, okay, well, Dan knows what's up. | ||
| He seems to have an ability over time and space, to an extent. | ||
| Someone unspoken, if I understand correctly? | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| And he also has a character. | ||
| Bray Wyatt is possessed by this demon called the fiend that has superpowers of some sort. | ||
| Actually, this is the thing that's normal to say. | ||
| And he's able to manipulate people's like their psychology or something and show them something of themselves that maybe they didn't want to accept. | ||
| He's the ghost of Christmas past! | ||
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It's just... | |
| It was masterful, the short film that they put together. | ||
| Because it wasn't a match. | ||
| It wasn't John Cena fighting Bray Wyatt as the Fiend. | ||
| What it was was basically a short film where the audience was taken inside the mind of John Cena. | ||
| John Cena, the biggest WWE wrestling superstar from the last 15 years. | ||
| The hero of the children. | ||
| The top guy in the business. | ||
| 16-time world champion. | ||
| And he was taken inside his mind and thoroughly deconstructed to the point where he accepts he's the bad guy. | ||
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It was remarkable. | |
| What did Marcel Duchamp direct? | ||
| Might as well have been. | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| It was... | ||
| Astounding. | ||
| First of all, the complexity and the story that it told was something I did not imagine the WWE was capable of. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds right. | ||
| And then two, the fact that John Cena would allow that. | ||
| Given how big of a person he is and how much he doesn't need to do something like this. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He's a movie star. | ||
| He's in movies. | ||
| He doesn't need to allow Bray Wyatt to... | ||
| Put him into a psychological prison and deconstruct his ego. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| No, he's auditioning for Shutter Island 2. That's the one that Scorsese's going to film next, I think. | ||
| God, it was good. | ||
| I had very scared expectations about it because I'm an old-time Bray Wyatt fan. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I mean, as much as I am a wrestling fan. | ||
| That's my kind of thing. | ||
| Bray Wyatt's original character was a swamp hillbilly cult leader. | ||
| I kind of liked Bray Wyatt, to be honest. | ||
| Talking these rambling, weird riddles. | ||
| Nonsense. | ||
| Absolute nonsense. | ||
| So good. | ||
| Impenetrable. | ||
| And they always want something really to work out, and then nothing ever does. | ||
| His storylines always kind of fizzle a little bit. | ||
| And so I had a real feeling that this was going to be another one of those things. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because they tried to do some Bray Wyatt spooky house matches in the past. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| I just really thought they were going to do that again. | ||
| And instead, what they got was a scathing portrait of... | ||
| First of all, John Cena's character trajectory through his career. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| To the WWE itself, to an extent. | ||
| Vince McMahon. | ||
| And a deeply emotional resonance. | ||
| Because throughout it, the character of Bray Wyatt is sort of guiding John Cena through these realizations that he's the bad guy. | ||
| And he gives him chances. | ||
| To recognize, like, this thing about himself, and because of John's ego, he can't recognize it, which leads to the ultimate conclusion of John being destroyed. | ||
| Like, it's great! | ||
| David Lynch is working for the WWE for one night. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All right. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Mulholland, drive me. | ||
| I will claim that I'm not a huge wrestling fan, and I stand by that. | ||
| I don't think that I am in the same way that most people like wrestling. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But I think it has a remarkable potential as a storytelling medium. | ||
| Both in-ring matches and stuff like this. | ||
| The characters that they're able to build. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Because you suspend disbelief to the point where it's like, yeah, this guy, he's got a demon in him. | ||
| Yeah, why not? | ||
| This goofy neon shirt wearing fake soldier slash battle rapper. | ||
| What do you guys think? | ||
| Dick Whitman's more believable? | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| I like the medium for the things like that that it is capable of. | ||
| And I was very proud of them and it's a very big bright spot for me in this week. | ||
| Well, that's great. | ||
| Loved it. | ||
| I'm glad. | ||
| I watched it a second time. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And I almost never re-watched things in wrestling. | ||
| I had to go back and like, that was... | ||
| And I watched it a second time the next day because I walked away from it feeling like that was spectacular. | ||
| And I second-guessed myself, and I watched it back. | ||
| I was like, no, that was as good as I thought it was. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| And to be clear, I don't want them to do a lot more of it. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| They would probably fuck it up. | ||
| Yeah, no, they knocked it out of the ballpark. | ||
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| Compared to the Undertaker match and your feelings on that, I would... | ||
| That might not have been as bad as I thought it was, but it was corny as hell. | ||
| This was corny in some ways, but with what I perceive to be a lot more depth to it. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's the difference between, do you want a goofy 80s thriller action movie or horror movie, or do you want some tense psychological thriller that also gets a little cornball every now and again? | ||
| That's kind of the difference, and that's just more my taste. | ||
| You can't go wrong with Dickens unless you're talking about Oliver Twist, in which case, yeah, you can. | ||
| You can get some weird, like, Jungian nonsense going on in your wrestling. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| So, before we get into today's episode, where we're going over April 5th, 2020, baby! | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
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| Crikey, mate. | ||
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| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| We gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, alright? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimp so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare Infowar on you. | ||
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| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| Does that mean Charles is an honorary member of the Conspiracy of Chris's? | ||
| No, that's only for Chris's. | ||
| That's only for Chris's. | ||
| Very specifically. | ||
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| So, both? | ||
| Jordan? | ||
| One or the other. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, like I said, we're going over the April 5th episode of Alex's show. | ||
| And here's the thing. | ||
| I wanted to do a Wacky Wednesday thing, but Carrie Cassidy over at Project Camelot, I swear Carrie has not been bringing it. | ||
| And so I couldn't find anything there. | ||
| I wasn't finding a lot of inspiration in some of the places that we might look for a Wacky Wednesday episode. | ||
| And things got kind of weird with Alex, too. | ||
| Because he put out a Saturday episode of his show that was just long and boring and awful. | ||
| So I wasted a lot of time listening to that. | ||
| Friday's episode was no good. | ||
| And then Monday... | ||
| He was out of a studio. | ||
| He wasn't in studio on the 6th because he was in family court. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| He was having to deal with some motions that his ex-wife had filed because of his DUI. | ||
| Entirely reasonable motions that his ex-wife filed, yeah. | ||
| So he was out of studio, so that leaves us really only with April 5th, the Sunday show. | ||
| And so I was like, well, we should check in on this. | ||
| So I listened to it, and I actually think this is a pretty important thing to cover because... | ||
| There's some really stupid fun things here, but also there is a development of some narrative that I think will probably be a problem in the future. | ||
| Oh, cool. | ||
| So we start off with Alex in a pretty doomy kind of feeling. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| We are live, ladies and gentlemen, on this April 5th Sunday transmission with 211 days out. | ||
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And more and more looks like the election will be canceled. | |
| Because the PSYOP of PSYOPs has been launched. | ||
| It's now official. | ||
| The United Nations has released guidelines written by the Melinda Gates Foundation that no one will be allowed to leave their homes or go back to work under the new worldwide martial law until you've been forcibly inoculated. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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All right. | |
| So I did not find any evidence of any of that stuff, but that's the headspace Alex is in, so that should tell you a little something. | ||
| So, on some recent episodes, we've seen a trend sort of coming into existence that is, whereas Alex was comparing the coronavirus to the flu in the past, he started to really get more interested in talking about it as a cold. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I think part of that is because maybe someone told him that coronaviruses in the family of coronaviruses can cause the common cold. | ||
| And I think that he's like, you know what? | ||
| People are way less afraid of the cold than they are of flu. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So let's go ahead and just run with that. | ||
| Let's really downplay it and try and get as many people hurt as we can. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So now that is evolving. | ||
| And he's starting to suggest that people who are testing positive for coronavirus, COVID-19, they actually are false positives. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Because they have the cold. | ||
| While we get into all this, I'm not joking around. | ||
| Coronavirus. | ||
| UK says 3.5 million antibody tests coming in days. | ||
| And then you learn you've had the common cold in your life. | ||
| Well, we've all had it. | ||
| So, see, everyone they're testing, and I've got medical doctors coming on the show about this, everyone they're testing who dies of cancer or lung problems or other diseases, or they're old, they have a heart attack, they're telling them you died of COVID-19 to create more hysteria. | ||
| So, I understand Alex's desperation to come up with a conspiracy here, but what he's suggesting does not make sense. | ||
| Partially because it's just scientifically dumb, but more importantly because he seems to be ignoring a very relevant statistic. | ||
| It's probably safe to say that literally everyone on the planet has gotten the cold. | ||
| Most people catch colds at least once a year, sometimes a couple times in a year. | ||
| If it were the case that the coronavirus tests were just creating false positives for people who had the cold, you'd expect that you wouldn't see so many of them come back negative. | ||
| How does Alex explain that there have been almost 2 million tests done in the U.S. and only a little over 370,000 of them have been positive? | ||
| If it were really just catching the common cold, that number would be much higher. | ||
| In order for Alex to credibly even suggest this conspiracy, I'm going to need for him to deal with that gigantic problem in the theory. | ||
| Which he won't do, because he's just pulling things out of his ass. | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| So it's just false positives from the cold, man. | ||
| This is also one of the situations where there's a deserved media blackout over... | ||
| Like, you can't show anything that's going on, but people are being intubated. | ||
| People are coughing up blood. | ||
| This is how people are dying. | ||
| Their lungs are fucking exploding. | ||
| That is not the goddamn common cold. | ||
| No. | ||
| By no stretch. | ||
| And if there was some more general knowledge of, like, this is how people are dying, it would be real hard to sell the common cold narrative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It should be hard to sell it anyways. | ||
| Yeah, I would assume so, but it's easy for Alex because, you know, he just says words. | ||
| That does make it easier. | ||
| So he has now based this, he's established this narrative that there's a lot of false positives, just people who have the cold, and he gets into predicting a future where anybody who dies, they'll say it's coronavirus. | ||
| And also in the future, they're going to say, anybody that's ever had the common cold, oh, you're a COVID-19 too. | ||
| But then they're going to say, well, to make sure, they're already doing this. | ||
| We got a vaccine. | ||
| They're making you beg for it first. | ||
| Bill and Melinda Gates already patented it a few years ago. | ||
| They've already got it ready. | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| They're going to roll it out and say you've got to have this shot and you've got to have the antibodies or you can't work or leave your house. | ||
| And it's all being announced. | ||
| So one thing that's really fun about this narrative, this thing of the vaccine already existing, is that it started when Alex began covering the internet conspiracy about the Peerbright Institute, which held a patent for this vaccine for chickens, which was completely misrepresented just because it involved a coronavirus. | ||
| That affects chickens. | ||
| But it's a coronavirus that's for chickens. | ||
| Hey, don't worry about it. | ||
| This is fun because that conspiracy before Alex picked up on it, it all traces directly back to Jordan Sather, who's a big QAnon guy. | ||
| Alex is in the middle of this supposed war against QAnon, but he can't even recognize or accept that a bunch of his information and narratives come directly from the very people he's attacking as idiots. | ||
| So, I was watching Alex's show from Saturday, like I mentioned, and he had Francis Boyle on the show, where they discussed this Gates patent situation. | ||
| In that segment, they addressed the fact that the Pure Bright patent is for chickens. | ||
| But then they claimed that there are other patents. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Well, that helps. | ||
| Which Alex then flashes up on screen. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You can Google them. | ||
| I'll give you the patent numbers. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| One of them is U.S. Patent 10130701B2. | ||
| This is for the Peerbrite Institute, and it relates to the coronavirus. | ||
| Alex just shows the first page on screen, which is good, because it says that, coronavirus, Peerbrite Institute. | ||
| That's the trick. | ||
| But if he scrolled to page four, he would see a graph there that's about the incidence of snicking, which is a thing that chickens do. | ||
| The second graph is for wheezing, which I guess humans do, too. | ||
| However, the y-axis of that graph is, quote, percentage of birds affected. | ||
| This is just the chicken vaccine again. | ||
| Okay, so look. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You're telling me that no people snick? | ||
| I think people snick all the time. | ||
| That's just a thing that normal people do. | ||
| As I understand, it's a beak-related issue. | ||
| Well, who doesn't have a giant beak? | ||
| This guy. | ||
| Who has two thumbs and no beak. | ||
| This guy. | ||
| So the other one, that one's a bust. | ||
| That's no good. | ||
| Is that one a bust? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Okay. | ||
| The only other patent Alex shows on air is a filing from the European Patent Office, number 1575-0093.5, which again is just the Pure Bright's chicken vaccine. | ||
| Alex has nothing, but I will grant that he has a whole lot of nothing. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| He has tripled his nothing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And all of it traces back to a QAnon promoter that he's ripping off. | ||
| That he's mad at and hates. | ||
| It is hard to focus on the sticks here, which is that he is killing people. | ||
| It is very difficult because this is so awful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So also, with this, this is all just derived from Jordan Sather stuff, who's a huge QAnon guy. | ||
| And as we're putting out this episode here on Wednesday, this is the day. | ||
| Today is the day that Alex is supposed to unmask QAnon. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Did he do it? | ||
| Well, I don't know. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| on Tuesday. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So I don't know what Alex is going to bring to the table on Wednesday. | ||
| Probably in studio surgery. | ||
| Cutting that microchip out. | ||
| That's my guess. | ||
| I'm hoping. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So Alex gets down to talking about how the Gates folks, because they already have this vaccine. | |
| Sure. | ||
| For chickens. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they're also doing this tattoo thing. | ||
| The tattoo that'll give you your virus records. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| The implantable chip stuff. | ||
| And apparently, the source on this, it goes back a ways. | ||
| Alex has known about this for a long time. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| David Knight broke a month ago. | ||
| COVID-19 tracking bracelets and a Bill of Melinda Gates MIT plan to put a digital tattoo that takes five minutes for a needle to stitch nanotech chips into you that can't be seen with a naked eye but under a black light that have your medical records on them that they scan on. | ||
| You can't cut it out because it's now in your flesh. | ||
| A digital DNA mark. | ||
| I remember I knew a preacher in Austin. | ||
| 25 years ago, who was putting on Patriot events. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| And I went to dinner with him. | ||
| Christian identity. | ||
| And he said, you know, you gave that speech at the church event about the microchip. | ||
| He goes, listen, God gave me a vision it's going to be a DNA tattoo on the left arm. | ||
| And I was like, okay. | ||
| But, you know, back then I was a Christian, but I was like, I look back on the stuff that guy said, and it all came true. | ||
| I ought to find where that fellow is. | ||
| He, like, moved to another state. | ||
| Regardless, it's here, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| That guy is hanging out with that friend of yours in high school's girlfriend. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Weird Christian identity preacher that Alex believes had visions. | ||
| Hey, he's not seeing up in heaven now, Dan. | ||
| Also, this thing that Alex is saying that David Knight broke, he didn't break anything. | ||
| He broke it. | ||
| Reporting on another article in some publication about this research that was being done. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They don't have the technology to do these tattoos yet. | ||
| They don't have the technology for Alex to break a story. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| David Knight doesn't have that brain tech. | ||
| So Alex gets into just lying about primary sources of that stuff. | ||
| He starts kind of slow. | ||
| It picks up, and at the end of this, this is so irresponsible. | ||
| But it starts off a little bit slow. | ||
| Before he died in 62, he wrote the book, Brave New World Revisited. | ||
| Talk about Aldous. | ||
| And Huxley went to Berkeley and gave a speech. | ||
| I've got thousands of articles to cover here, folks, literally. | ||
| But I'm just going back to this because this is everything. | ||
| I remember this. | ||
| And he said, my book published in 32 is not science fiction. | ||
| Didn't say that. | ||
| It is a futurist projection of the world we want to build by 2020. | ||
| Didn't say that. | ||
| That sounds like something a crazy person would say. | ||
| And his contemporaries. | ||
| Talked about diet injections and injunctions controlling you and making you dumb and stupid. | ||
| So all these vaccines are Trojan horse piggybacked with sterilants and with... | ||
| Systems at lower IQ. | ||
| So none of that is accurate from the Brave New World Revisited. | ||
| Like I said, as I say whenever this comes up, I highly recommend people go listen to that speech. | ||
| He's very charming as a speaker. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| And you can get a little bit more context of what Aldous Huxley was actually saying in that speech. | ||
| It was mostly about the comparison between himself and Orwell. | ||
| The 1984 system versus the Brave New World system. | ||
| Which would be the more likely version that this could rise up in? | ||
| That's kind of more what he was getting at. | ||
| He wasn't saying, this is our plan, this is what we've been doing, ha ha, suck it. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| But the other part there, he's contemporary. | ||
| He's talking about Bertrand Russell. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the diets, injections, and injunctions line is something that Alex just takes out of context. | ||
| We've talked about this a bunch. | ||
| Bertrand Russell was talking about what would have happened if the Nazis had won World War II and had become a scientifically run system. | ||
| And he's saying that were that to be the case, had the Nazis won, which is a bad thing, he didn't want to happen, and they became a scientifically run system, diets, injections, and injunctions would control the population. | ||
| This is not them saying, haha, this is what we're doing, suck it. | ||
| Alex can read just anything about like... | ||
| Hypothetical situations or analyses of things. | ||
| Like, ha-ha, this is what everyone's doing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| I mean, it's selective, obviously. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You know, he doesn't do this with other things that work against his narratives. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, Berks and Russell was wrong anyways because, as we all know, the Nazis won World War II in 2016. | ||
| That's pretty much how it went down, right? | ||
| World War II ended, but then there was a re-emergence. | ||
| Yeah, the Nazis had a great comeback. | ||
| It was bottom of the ninth, about to get a woman president, and then they swung for the fences. | ||
| So, speaking of pretty shocking comebacks... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nicely done. | ||
| Alex has been really against the globalists and their extermination plan. | ||
| But on our last episode, we heard him sort of coming around. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it's not a bad idea. | ||
| It's just they're the ones doing it. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like that wasn't a one-off. | ||
| It seems like Alex is really starting to feel like, well, maybe people should be exterminated. | ||
| I don't fucking know. | ||
| Straight up. | ||
| You don't think Bill and Melinda Gates run all these TV shows attacking me by name that they finance because I'm just up here saying stuff isn't true. | ||
| Now, I'll tell you, the public is pretty dumbed down, is pretty lazy, and doesn't care if they're doing this show. | ||
| Gates' argument is you deserve to die. | ||
| Maybe Bill Gates is right. | ||
| I'm not going to go join him because I'm a God-fearing person, but I get it. | ||
| Okay, I would say that if you're a God-fearing person, I don't know why Alex thinks that extermination of the population is warranted because people are lazy and dumb. | ||
| Maybe they should be. | ||
| That's not a good reason to exterminate a population. | ||
| Hey, come on. | ||
| We got Sodom and Gomorrah. | ||
| We got all those folks that God killed so Noah could be fine. | ||
| And, you know, God exterminated people all the time. | ||
| A God-fearing man is probably pro-extermination. | ||
| Let's be honest. | ||
| It seems like a misunderstanding of some of the finer points. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| At least as I understand God's message through Christianity. | ||
| You know, people think that the New Testament is a book you should read, and I just disagree entirely. | ||
| I think that it is ludicrous, and also very fun-slash-scary, that Alex is now coming around to this, like, fuck it, the global should exterminate everybody. | ||
| Because what that entails or what that portends is like him being way more fine with mass death. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Should, like, I don't know, Trump do something fucked up. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| As long as it's couched in the sort of framing of fighting the globalists or whatever. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| Why should I? | ||
| Why should I sit here and protect the sheep? | ||
| Why should I? | ||
| I'm not going to do it. | ||
| Let the globalists kill them all. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
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Fuck you. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| No one's buying X3. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| I can't say that there aren't dark moments that I've had looking at Biden's poll numbers going like, you know what? | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I got nothing for you. | ||
| You guys want to do it? | ||
| You do it. | ||
| I'm not saying nothing. | ||
| But that's not a way to live your life, Dan. | ||
| There's a difference between the sort of moments of despair you might have of, like, we are not going to make progress. | ||
| Those are tough moments of reflection, much like me before WrestleMania Night 2. And then the darkness comes right before the dawn. | ||
| Well, maybe not. | ||
| But there's a difference between that and being like, for long times I have prophesied that my enemies would exterminate everyone and I've dedicated my life to fighting against that. | ||
| But fuck it, maybe they're right. | ||
| There is a difference there. | ||
| There is a difference. | ||
| That's an invalidation of Alex's pretend everything. | ||
| Ah, fuck it, maybe Bill Gates is right. | ||
| You all should fucking die. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Yeah, that's Obama voting for Trump. | ||
| If Bernie is the nominee, we'll see what happens. | ||
| Well, so we have, in this next clip, Alex has had famous people call him. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And they're like, hey man, you're right. | ||
| Ted Nugent's wife? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got a couple calls today by super famous people, and I'm not bragging. | ||
| Sounds like a brag. | ||
| Super famous people. | ||
| I mean, just you name it. | ||
| Rock stars, movie stars, huge national talk show host. | ||
| You're like, well, I thought you were wrong, but you really are right. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, great, we'll do something about it. | ||
| Oh, I'm afraid to. | ||
| Sounds like a brag. | ||
| So it means nothing to me until those people do something. | ||
| And I told them. | ||
| I said to one of them, I said, I don't really want to talk to you until you just come on the show. | ||
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Right. | |
| Okay. | ||
| All right, buddy. | ||
| Or until you come out and do something. | ||
| All right, you star fucker. | ||
| Trying to hold on to what you've got is going to lose everything. | ||
| America had everything because we would fight and we weren't pushed around. | ||
| You look at America now on average and we're soft and we're lazy and we're stupid and we're evil. | ||
| And if you'll put up with 62 million aborted babies, you won't do anything. | ||
| So, sort of even further, like saying we deserve to die, which isn't good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know who these rich, famous super megastars are, but I do love the idea of, like, I don't even want to fucking talk to you unless you'll come on my show. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Thanks for telling me I'm right, but if I can't get any PR out of this, I don't give a shit. | ||
| This is when we find out it's actually Christopher Walken finally calling back after all those years. | ||
| Alex! | ||
| Listen! | ||
| He's just calling back. | ||
| He doesn't want to tell Alex he's right, but he has another chicken recipe that he wants to share. | ||
| I've been listening to the bells a little bit more recently, and I gotta say, you're right. | ||
| I don't even want to talk to you! | ||
| Who do you think Alex is, like, what's his version of, like, really famous? | ||
| Like, megastar? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe some country musician? | ||
| I don't think Clint Eastwood might have called one. | ||
| Like, Willie Nelson's drummer? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know who these people are, and I guess we probably never will, because Alex... | ||
| Bruce Springsteen's drummer, Conan's former bandleader. | ||
| So Alex has a guest on the show, and it's a guy who gave a speech at CPAC, at the CPAC event. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I will say his speech at CPAC was pretty boring, and it was just some bad comedy, and I had a real tough time with it. | ||
| Based on this interview, he's rising the ranks in terms of, like, people I really dislike. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| He has one of the most annoying speech delivery, like, just the way he speaks. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Very, very annoying. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Very condescending. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Put them all together. | ||
| Also, why not throw in real dumb? | ||
| We're going to Patrick Halle. | ||
| He writes for Epic Times. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| That's the best newspaper in the world. | ||
| Yeah, they're just incredible. | ||
| Won't check it out. | ||
| Another great site that Papert heads up, and that is NationalFile.com and the great work they're doing. | ||
| And he's done a big story breaking down the fact that Fauci and others that you see up there on that stage every night have big money ties to Bill Gates. | ||
| Fauci got $100 million in just one grant from Bill Gates. | ||
| So I want to explain something. | ||
| Bill Gates is running the show. | ||
| Nope, that's a very inaccurate reading of philanthropy. | ||
| So it's so weird how whenever these people are giving Patrick Howley's credits, I think it's Hawley, H-A-W-L-E-Y. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I'm very sensitive to this because Howley is a slur in Hawaii where I grew up. | ||
| So I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| Anyway, Patrick Howley, Howley, I don't know, fuck, I'll say Howley. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Whenever they give his credits, they seem to forget that he started Big League Politics, which was just a shitty right-wing conspiracy blog. | ||
| Hey, that is really helpful. | ||
| And weird how that never comes up. | ||
| Almost like even they know it makes him look super bad and would undercut his imagined credibility. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| People think that vertical integration is a bad idea, but I say when it comes to politics, you gotta get it in. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The Epoch Times is not one of the best newspapers out there. | ||
| It's a rabidly conspiratorial publication that Alex just likes because it's ferociously pro-Trump and super anti-China. | ||
| It's run by the Falun Gong religious movement. | ||
| And according to reporting from NBC News, Former practitioners of Falun Gong told NBC News that believers think the world is headed towards a judgment day when those labeled communists will be sent to a kind of hell and those sympathetic to the spiritual community will be spared. | ||
| Trump is viewed as a key ally in the anti-communist fight, former Epoch Times employees said. | ||
| You can kind of see how Alex would really be into that kind of editorial position. | ||
| Ah, yeah! | ||
| It's run by the Falun Gong. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
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Is there anything in the GOP that isn't a death cult? | |
| So, on October 17th, 2009, the founder of the Falun Gong movement spoke to the staff of the Epoch Times, and the message that was sent was a little messed up. | ||
| It's very clear that the newspaper is an extension of an apocalyptic religious belief that looks forward to an ultimate clash with communism, particularly in the form of China. | ||
| From the speech, quote, The additions of the Epoch Times and other languages are crucial as well, for Dafa disciples are the sole hope for salvation for the world's people, whatever corner of the earth they may inhabit. | ||
| It wouldn't work if I, Li Hongzhi, who serves as the master to the disciples of Dafa, took on this work as well. | ||
| It's something that you must do. | ||
| My involvement will happen later, after the Fa rectifies the human world. | ||
| Before the time of the Fa rectifying the human world, you must save more people and allow more of the world's people to remain. | ||
| In the process of clarifying the truth, validating the Fa, and saving sentient beings, you are enabling people to survive the great catastrophe. | ||
| And only this portion of the human race will be worthy of seeing during the stage of Fa's rectification of the human world. | ||
| The true picture of the cosmos and all that has occurred since the world's creation. | ||
| After that will I commence far rectification of the human world. | ||
| Many things need to be done if this plane of existence is to be kept, for human affairs are really not so simple. | ||
| Saving sentient beings is something that has to be done by you, and during this period you are given this path so that you may establish mighty virtue with your righteous thoughts and actions. | ||
| Head towards consummation. | ||
| All right! | ||
| Let's go write some blogs! | ||
| Most of that speech is about how you need to get this in line like normal media outlets. | ||
| All right, everybody. | ||
| Huddle up. | ||
| You do all the work, and then after it's over, I will definitely help out. | ||
| And that is nothing at all like a cult leader. | ||
| How dare you say that? | ||
| And it's also nothing at all like, hey, if I were really directing everything here, people would see what's up. | ||
| So I'll come in later. | ||
| You guys gotta do this, because it doesn't really look like I'm exerting my will through this publication. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like that. | ||
| It's not ideal. | ||
| The situation between Falun Gong and the state of China is far too complicated for me to unpack here. | ||
| But please don't take anything that I'm saying as to be minimizing of the repression that China has engaged in regarding religious. | ||
| Oh, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I'm not minimizing that at all. | ||
| And, you know, just because Falun Gong runs this paper that is baddie as fuck doesn't mean that it's within... | ||
| A reasonable response to incarcerate and oppress people. | ||
| Sometimes everybody's bad in a story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, the point here is that this is not a good news source. | ||
| It's an anti-communist propaganda depot run in the service of a religious mission that believes it's heading towards an apocalyptic standoff against demonic communists. | ||
| So Infowars, basically. | ||
| Yeah, you know, there's a lot of overlap. | ||
| Now, where they differ, Jordan... | ||
| Is that the Epoch Times has definitely promoted the QAnon conspiracy. | ||
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Okay, there we go. | |
| All right. | ||
| That's the only one. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So if Alex thinks that they're the best news outlet, he has some questions he needs to ask himself about how he's at war with QAnon. | ||
| It's almost like nothing matters, Dan. | ||
| It's almost like there's really no difference or meaning to just about anything that Alex says. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So anyway, Patrick Hawley also writes for them. | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| Yeah, he's a hero. | ||
| So Alex believes that Bill Gates is out to get him because... | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| And believe me, I know who's financing the lawsuits. | ||
| I know who's after us. | ||
| My God, again, Bill Gates, if you don't know, like The Good Doctor and all these shows are paid for by him where they attack me, they say it's meant to attack me, he finances documentaries where they name me, and he's behind it all because he knows I'm on his ass. | ||
| Not behind us, buddy. | ||
| Well, I mean, come on, dude. | ||
| You said everybody's dumb, so they don't know about your eugenics, so they deserve it, survival of the fittest. | ||
| And your social Darwinism, well then, don't we have a right to warn them? | ||
| So again, ladies and gentlemen, look at the look on Bill Gates' face in this photo. | ||
| If we can pull it up from nationalfall.com, that'd be great. | ||
| Oh, look at his face. | ||
| Look at that look on his face. | ||
| I want more than face looks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is more, I need more than face looks. | ||
| Yeah, or demonstrate in some way that Bill Gates is behind lawsuits against you. | ||
| Was Bill Gates, did he buy you sake? | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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What the fuck? | |
| I miss Soros. | ||
| I miss Soros. | ||
| Soros is still in the mix somewhere. | ||
| He's still in the mix somewhere, but I'm not hearing about Soros anymore. | ||
| Soros works with Gates. | ||
| I'm getting too much Gates. | ||
| Soros and Gates. | ||
| I'm getting too much Gates. | ||
| Gates sucks too. | ||
| I like Soros being the bad guy because he actually seems to be a fairly good guy. | ||
| Whereas Gates kind of sucks. | ||
| Soros is more relevant to the Antifa narratives that Alex has. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| Because of the contract. | ||
| Sure, the fake contracts that Alex found on 4chan. | ||
| Totally real contracts. | ||
| So because of that, I think that certainly Antifa isn't getting in the mix while there's a quarantine going on. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Because they really only... | ||
| Appear whenever there's right-wing demonstrations to counter-demonstrate. | ||
| And not the Falun Gong pho. | ||
| No. | ||
| The regular old pho. | ||
| So Patrick jumps in, and man, look, I gotta be honest, I don't like this guy, but what you gotta give up to him, I mean, you gotta tip your hat to the fact that he's good at saying he has sources. | ||
| What the hell's going on here? | ||
| Well, Alex, thank you for having me. | ||
| I have been briefed by insiders about what's really going on here, and what's really going on is a proxy war that's playing out between President Donald Trump and Bill Gates. | ||
| And I'm sorry to have to report to the President that Dr. Anthony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx are stooges for Bill Gates. | ||
| They are part of his confederacy of dunces. | ||
| I am shocked! | ||
| They're trying to carry out the sinister agenda upon the world. | ||
| So, like I said, he's good at saying he has a source. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's talked to insiders. | ||
| It took one sentence for me to agree with you. | ||
| He has the most annoying speech pattern. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's rough. | ||
| It is really rough listening to this dude. | ||
| That is bothersome. | ||
| If he was talking about something that I was interested in, I would still think, you are really angry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a tone to his voice that is just like, dude, calm down. | ||
| You are so mad. | ||
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| I would love to hear analysis from other people about the Firefly Funhouse match. | ||
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Sure! | |
| And if Patrick Hawley was talking about it, I would not want to listen. | ||
| I have no interest. | ||
| I would be like, you're so mad. | ||
| Even if he was talking about how good a match it was. | ||
| Still, mm-mm. | ||
| So anyway, he's very dumb. | ||
| And he's on the chloroquine narrative tip. | ||
| Really can't believe we're still doing this. | ||
| Yep, we still are. | ||
| And it's going to get worse. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Now, Bill Gates says these vaccines might not come out for another 18 months, by which point the American economy is going to be toast, by which point we're going to be hauling dead bodies through the streets. | ||
| This is the agenda. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| President Donald Trump threw a wrench into all of this because he discovered hydroxychloroquine. | ||
| a very cheap anti-malarial drug that has been around for years. | ||
| And now we have people fighting hydroxychloroquine. | ||
| How prescient that today on Fox News, on the quizling Chris Wallace's show, he had the nerve to have Bill Gates on and also the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, who tried to shut down chloroquine in her state. | ||
| She restricted it, just like Andrew Cuomo. | ||
| And I'd like to know if Andrew Cuomo's brother, Chris Cuomo, who says he's having hallucinations, I don't know how that's any different than his usual content on CNN. | ||
| I don't know if he's on chloroquine. | ||
| What kind of drugs are the elites getting that the people are not getting? | ||
| Is that an adrenochrome reference, bro? | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| These people. | ||
| Yeah, this is a little lame. | ||
| Just line up. | ||
| Just line up to die. | ||
| You guys are insane. | ||
| I just feel like there's such a rank misunderstanding among these folks of people who are saying like... | ||
| You gotta be careful when you're talking about something like a medication. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They take that to be like you're opposed to it. | ||
| Like, if there were actual good human trials that had been done that showed that hydroxychloroquine was effective, I don't think that anyone would be against it. | ||
| We'd be like, fuck yes! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| And no one is saying like, hey... | ||
| Cut it out. | ||
| They're saying, reel it in. | ||
| Reel it in. | ||
| You can get people hurt with talk like this. | ||
| We've already seen at least one documented death from people taking this advice. | ||
| And the possibility of a lot more does exist. | ||
| That's why you have to be careful with those things. | ||
| That's not being anti-chloroquine or whatever. | ||
| It's such a stupid black and white way of looking at things. | ||
| It is interesting. | ||
| If we accept the hypothesis that Alex knows he's lying about this, then it is hard to take his opening statements of, everybody's fucking stupid and cheap, and I guess maybe they do need to get rid of as being anything other than him talking about his friends. | ||
| Well, we know he complains about his friends a lot. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And his listeners are like, if you believe what Alex is saying, then Alex is talking about you. | ||
| Might be. | ||
| So anyway, Fauci... | ||
| You know, he's coming out here and he's saying that chloroquine's the devil, basically. | ||
| That is not what he said. | ||
| Well, but it turns out he used to be into chloroquine back when Obama liked it. | ||
| Back in the 60s? | ||
| Back when Obama liked it. | ||
| Was it like LSD? | ||
| And he loved chloroquine when Obama was president. | ||
| He had a MERS coronavirus outbreak. | ||
| But now, all of a sudden, he doesn't like it so much. | ||
| He's pushing a nationwide stay-at-home order. | ||
| And I refuse, Alex, as a longtime listener of you and as a reporter, to watch our freedom get taken away and tyranny imposed on us by this little Napoleon complex man and the dark lady, Deborah Birx, who was appointed by Obama. | ||
| You're a shitty lineup. | ||
| For radio listeners who are putting all this on screen. | ||
| Fauci got a $100 million grant a few years ago. | ||
| They worked together very closely in eugenics. | ||
| They're carrying this out. | ||
| Fauci was involved the whole age. | ||
| So, Anthony Fauci's history as it relates to the HIV crisis is simultaneously a complicated one and a not-so-complicated one. | ||
| According to many of the HIV activists who worked with him back then, Fauci was initially exactly the sort of government bureaucrat kind of guy that you might expect. | ||
| But he was receptive. | ||
| He listened, and eventually he became an important ally in that public health crisis. | ||
| Oh, that's a recipe for getting killed by the right wing in 2020. | ||
| An article on The Body Pro discusses how, quote, He dramatically loosened HIV drug clinical trial requirements so that a far greater number of desperate patients could try new compounds, an approach called parallel tracking. | ||
| He expanded research on HIV AIDS and its treatment in underrepresented women and or people of color and gave activists and people living with HIV seats at the table of the planning committee of the AIDS clinical trials group. | ||
| The article quotes Jim Igo, who was an activist with ACT UP, who said, quote, Fauci was a sparring partner with us, then a friend. | ||
| They also quote Ann Northrup, another ACT UP activist. | ||
| Quote, I would say that at the beginning of his encounters with us, he was a pretty typical bureaucrat, making excuses for the slow pace of drug investigations and approval. | ||
| I still give him credit for turning into someone who listened more to the activist point of view and eventually became more of an ally. | ||
| There are definitely plenty of criticisms that can be made of his and any government entities handling of the HIV crisis in the 80s and 90s, but it's a little much to say that Fauci was involved in this cover-up or something. | ||
| And that's especially rich coming from Alex, who constantly has John Rappaport on his show as a medical expert, considering that Rappaport is an HIV denialist who sells DVDs of his lectures on the subject, despite a complete lack of medical qualifications. | ||
| As for the question of chloroquine and Merce, that's a completely different matter than what we're dealing with today. | ||
| For one, what Patrick is probably referring to is an article in NBC News from May 20, 2014, titled, quote, Merce Cure? | ||
| Lots of drugs might fight virus, study finds. | ||
| Chloroquine was one of the drugs that were included in that lots of drugs. | ||
| And here's what Anthony Fauci said back then. | ||
| Quote, it's a good start. | ||
| You try to stay ahead of the game. | ||
| There's a host of things we're doing. | ||
| Hopefully we will never have to use any of them. | ||
| I would need Patrick to provide stronger evidence than this to back up his claim that Fauci was all about chloroquine back when Obama was president, but now he's against it because Trump likes it. | ||
| And also, what does Patrick mean when he says that Deborah Birx was appointed by Obama? | ||
| True, she was made the U.S. Global AIDS Coordinator by Obama in 2014, but that wasn't her first position in government. | ||
| She was the director of the CDC's Division of Global HIV and AIDS since 2005, which predates Obama's presidency, and she was working at the NIH since 1986. | ||
| Obama became a senator in 2004. | ||
| He probably appointed her back then. | ||
| She was at the NIH since 1986. | ||
| Done. | ||
| He became a community organizer in 1986, so he appointed her then. | ||
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| He was anointed from birth to be president, so he was maneuvering people at the NIH. | ||
| Wait, was she born in Kenya too, Dan? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I haven't seen her long before. | ||
| So sure. | ||
| She was appointed to a position by Obama, but it means nothing in this stupid conspiracy that he's going on. | ||
| So whatever. | ||
| It's easy whenever your head guy, whom you love so much, your dear leader, has never held a position in government for you to convince your listeners that nobody else has either. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or that everybody who you don't like in the moment, their history starts when Obama did something. | ||
| It's like, that's not quite accurate. | ||
| They were public servants for decades. | ||
| I can't imagine somebody wanting to be a public servant to serve the public, Dan. | ||
| That sounds crazy. | ||
| That sounds absolutely insane. | ||
| I'm going to assume that she's a globalist out to kill us all. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Anyway, in this next clip, there is this weird obsession that I see on Alex's show, and I don't think we make enough of a point of it. | ||
| And that is that Alex's only real argument that he has about how Trump was handling this correctly. | ||
| I mean, it used to be that Trump secretly declared an emergency a month ago. | ||
| Right, but he didn't actually do that. | ||
| No, and Alex has stopped saying that. | ||
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| But the only thing that's really consistent in terms of evidence that Trump was on the ball, he was taking care of business, TCB. | ||
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Sure. | |
| He was like Bachman-Turner overdrive out there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The only example he has is that Trump tried to block flights from China. | ||
| Hey, he did it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He did it. | ||
| He could have saved us. | ||
| That's the only thing. | ||
| He could have saved us. | ||
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| They have early on tried to blame Trump for this, even though Trump's one that blocked the Chinese flights. | ||
| Now the new talk is, you know, he acted late. | ||
| It's his fault, and he wants to open the country. | ||
| You know, he's a bad guy. | ||
| They say it'll peak at like 2,000, 3,000 dying a day. | ||
| He's been a bad guy. | ||
| Now he's a murderer. | ||
| Anybody that's positive for the common cold is corona. | ||
| Just not COVID-19. | ||
| So they're actually adding in everyone that has antibodies for the common cold who's dying in America to the list. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| Well, that's right, Alex. | ||
| So, Patrick agreeing with that is disqualifying. | ||
| That is, like, Alex just rambled through a load of nonsense. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| I understand him agreeing with the narrative that Trump tried to block these flights and therefore he did everything he was supposed to do. | ||
| Everything he's supposed to do. | ||
| Which is nonsense. | ||
| It's not like there was a CDC directive that literally laid out the plans for what needed to be done in this situation and he ignored it. | ||
| That would be crazy. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| There is a ton of breakdown you could do on that front. | ||
| But Alex does have a xenophobic position just as a sort of... | ||
| The center, his core. | ||
| And so the idea that he tried to stop travel is like, that's all you need to do. | ||
| Which is silly. | ||
| He tried to stop that caravan. | ||
| Now he tried to stop flights. | ||
| Dems hate him. | ||
| Obviously, I think in the episode where we talked about Alex's response to the Ebola stuff, we talked about how these travel restrictions don't really work. | ||
| They can slow things down a little bit, but they don't really work. | ||
| Because if you have these cases that are identified in China, you shut off travel from China, some of these cases might already be outside of China. | ||
| So you could have someone from Russia, neighboring country or whatever, who comes over. | ||
| You don't have a travel restriction there. | ||
| It can still get in. | ||
| There might be some slowing down of progression that you can do, and maybe there's some value to that, but the consequences of it are... | ||
| Or maybe make things even worse. | ||
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| So it's a complicated picture, but it's the only thing Alex cares about. | ||
| But I understand the idea that Patrick would agree with that. | ||
| The fact that he's just like, yeah, when Alex is saying that anybody who tests positive for antibodies to the cold, any kind of coronavirus, is being called COVID-19. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He doesn't have anything to base that on. | ||
| He gives no citation, no evidence of that at all. | ||
| I don't see any reason to think that he's not just making that up. | ||
| Yeah, because he's probably making it up. | ||
| Yeah, and Patrick's like, yeah, I'm a fucking anti-communist propaganda yes and guy. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That sounds just as reasonable as the bullshit I was about to say, so why not agree with you now and skip that part? | ||
| Now, Patrick might be about to swing you. | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| Because he's going to talk some shit on Joe Biden. | ||
| Okay! | ||
| I still doubt it! | ||
| To be fair, this is an instance where Joe Biden's being done dirty. | ||
| Of course he is! | ||
| Because all the legitimate criticisms that you have of Biden are almost equally applicable to your guys. | ||
| We've got to make up some bullshit. | ||
| Well, this one is also from 2005. | ||
| Because Obama appointed him vice president in 2005, right? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Let's go ahead and say that. | ||
| It has to do with the John Roberts confirmation hearings. | ||
| Joe Biden, the very guy who in 2005 asked John Roberts in the Supreme Court confirmation hearing, can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body to track his every movement? | ||
| There's actual discussion about that. | ||
| Now, I haven't seen anything in the King James Bible about vaccines, but I have seen something about the Mark of the Beast. | ||
| And I know that these people are drawing us into something very sinister here. | ||
| This guy is an angry kid, man. | ||
| It's awful. | ||
| I've never been checkmated more than I haven't seen anything in the Bible about vaccines. | ||
| So this is really fun. | ||
| All these dumb, dumb conspiracy theorists like to trot out this quote from Joe Biden during the John Roberts confirmation to claim that Biden wants to microchip everyone and bring us into the mark of the beast or whatever. | ||
| This quote that they always use, as Patrick did in a recent post on National File, is, quote, we'll be faced with equally consequential decisions of the 21st century. | ||
| Can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body to track his every movement? | ||
| There's actual discussion about that. | ||
| You will rule on that. | ||
| Mark my words before your tenure is over. | ||
| Can brain scans be used to determine whether a person's inclined for criminality or violent behavior? | ||
| You will rule on that. | ||
| This sort of quote is one that is begging for surrounding context. | ||
| Why don't we take a look and listen to what Biden was actually saying? | ||
| No, we don't have recordings from 2005, Dan. | ||
| That's too far in the past. | ||
| There's no way that we could... | ||
| I actually... | ||
| One of my magical powers is I go back in time. | ||
| The way back? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like the founders, I believe our Constitution is as big and as grand and as great as its people. | ||
| Our constitutional journey did not stop with women being barred from being lawyers, with ten-year-olds working in coal mines, or black kids forced into different schools than white kids. | ||
| Just because the Constitution, in the Constitution, nowhere does it mention sex discrimination, child labor, segregation. | ||
| It doesn't mention it. | ||
| Our constitutional journey did not stop then, and it must not stop now, Judge, and we'll be faced with equally consequential decisions in the 21st century. | ||
| Can a microscopic tag be implanted in a person's body to track his every movement? | ||
| There's actual discussion about that. | ||
| You will rule on that. | ||
| Mark my words before your tenure is over. | ||
| Can brain scans be used to determine whether a person is inclined toward criminality or violent behavior? | ||
| You will rule on that. | ||
| And judge, I need to know whether you will be a justice who believes that the constitutional journey must continue to speak to these consequential decisions, or that we've gone far enough from protecting against government intrusion into our autonomy, into the most personal decisions we make. | ||
| Judge, that's why this is a critical moment. | ||
| Whoops! | ||
| Biden was actually bringing this possibility up as an example of something he wanted to take Roberts' temperature on because he thought it would be government intrusion into our autonomy. | ||
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Whoops! | |
| Biden was actually saying he wanted to be comfortable that Roberts was against that before confirming him. | ||
| Whoops! | ||
| Patrick Hawley knows good and goddamn well that the next thing Biden says in that confirmation hearing is that. | ||
| He knows that. | ||
| But he pretends he doesn't because it invalidates the narrative he's trying to build with that out-of-context quote. | ||
| This is what liars do. | ||
| That's such bull... | ||
| For as much as I hate Biden, if James O 'Keefe came out with a video professing to show anything, I'd be like, go fuck yourself! | ||
| I don't give a shit what you lying pieces of shit have to say! | ||
| Well, it's one of those things that you shouldn't... | ||
| I mean, you can almost always make that assumption, and you'll almost always be right. | ||
| But, you know, erring too much on the side of I assume you're wrong, therefore I won't take anything you say as being plausible. | ||
| Can be just as destructive of a view. | ||
| Now, granted, from my experience of constantly looking into all of these things over and over again, I will say that almost never is something above board that's put out by almost anybody who's an associate of Alex Jones. | ||
| I will give them 1% of the benefit of the doubt. | ||
| That's a little bit of a high bar to cross for me to give a shit, though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The thing is that, like, that quote... | ||
| You can use it, and you do. | ||
| Someone like Patrick does. | ||
| But the reality is, he knows. | ||
| Unless he just read it on some website, completely devoid of context, and he didn't look into it, he has to have watched this. | ||
| He has to have seen it. | ||
| I don't believe that he wouldn't be like, wait, what does that mean? | ||
| What is he trying to say? | ||
| And if he's not, then he's not a curious person. | ||
| He is not. | ||
| That means, like, I don't know, maybe you shouldn't be in the line you're in. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| You shouldn't be in a position where you're conveying information to people if you are not curious about what that information means in its appropriate context. | ||
| He is not at all interested in that, and his job is not to convey information. | ||
| His job is to spread propaganda. | ||
| He is in the perfect line of work, Dan. | ||
| You may be right. | ||
| So also, Patrick is against immigration quite a bit. | ||
| Can't imagine. | ||
| He doesn't like the idea that governments giving money to bail out these businesses has something to do with immigration. | ||
| He wants these businesses to fail. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Something to do with punishing... | ||
| This is weird. | ||
| This is a weird quote. | ||
| All right, I'll take this. | ||
| We are bending over backward to serve globalist corporations who will leave us in two seconds when the mass immigration policies that they lobby for give us a permanent Democrat socialist majority. | ||
| We have no reason to cater to these people or bail them out with our money. | ||
| Let them fail. | ||
| That's the free market. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Let's go further. | ||
| They know by giving China one-sided trade deals and building it up. | ||
| Trump was ending that, bringing industry back. | ||
| They make almost all our drugs. | ||
| So now China has the virus, shuts down a few weeks, opens back up. | ||
| We're shut down for supposedly years. | ||
| China wins the trade war where the globalists have all invested. | ||
| So this is admittedly a globalist operation. | ||
| Admittedly. | ||
| I don't know how it's admittedly a globalist operation. | ||
| I don't even think any of those things you're saying are accurate. | ||
| Now, the thing that I think is really interesting about this is Patrick Hawley is clearly furious at these companies for encouraging immigration because he believes it will lead to a democratic socialist voting bloc. | ||
| As most corporations want. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So that's weird. | ||
| And in response to that, he says, fuck it, let them fail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, in the climate that we're dealing with right now, The reason that a lot of these businesses will fail is because businesses have to be closed. | ||
| Because they're unessential businesses. | ||
| So when he's talking about this, that's clearly what is trying to be mitigated by these government efforts. | ||
| Yeah, you would think that doing a good thing would be recognized as a good thing. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I'm not sure I follow. | ||
| Trying to keep these small businesses from closing. | ||
| Well, he's not talking about small businesses. | ||
| Oh, he's not talking about small businesses. | ||
| He's talking about these big government, or not government, these big global... | ||
| Air cartels, like that kind of, like the cruise line industry. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Fuck them! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, the distinction is very weird because he wants these businesses to fail as some sort of a punishment because they encourage immigration in his mind. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But simultaneously... | ||
| He also wants people to go back to work. | ||
| President Donald Trump is trying to scale this back and thank God that we have a Republican in there who's looking at the stock market numbers saying, we need to get back to work. | ||
| We are going to race against the clock to try to get treatment here. | ||
| If we had a Democrat in there... | ||
| This could very well be the one. | ||
| And we all know what we're talking about. | ||
| The one. | ||
| We've been wondering, is it going to be a fake alien invasion? | ||
| Are they going to bring out some kind of fast-moving cylindrical disk that they've used Hollywood to predictive program us to think it's an alien invasion and we have to cast off nationhood and form a one-world government if the aliens are going to embrace us? | ||
| Is it going to be climate change, this hoax that Greta Thunberg is pushing? | ||
| This guy gets it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Man, go to bed. | ||
| Jesus, go away. | ||
| So on the one hand, he wants all these big businesses to fail. | ||
| And then on the other hand, he's worried that the stock market is going down. | ||
| So people got to go back to work. | ||
| This just seems incongruous. | ||
| And these are things that are said within like a minute of each other. | ||
| We need Trump to save these big businesses on the stock market by making people go back to work and risk to their own personal safety and each other's safety. | ||
| But also, fuck these big businesses. | ||
| They should go out of business because I hate immigration. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| This makes perfect sense. | ||
| There's nobody that I want to support more than somebody who looks at hundreds of thousands of people dying across the world and thinks, thank God we have a Republican president who's willing to look at the stock numbers. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| That's who I support, you know? | ||
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Yep. | |
| That line on that graph is... | ||
| Gotta, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Money's real, Dan. | ||
| Did you know that? | ||
| You know what I like to do is I like to take the stock market, right? | ||
| I take a stock's price on the x-axis. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Then on the y-axis, number of chickens affected. | ||
| Snicking issues. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So in this next clip, Patrick Hawley is gone and good riddance. | ||
| Boy, I do not look forward to his next appearance on the show. | ||
| No. | ||
| That voice is tough. | ||
| I don't look forward to his continuing to speak ever. | ||
| Even if he was interesting in the same way that someone like Leo Zagami is or something, I still would have a real tough time sitting through it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Even if he was admitting to 9-11, I wouldn't like it. | |
| He's a shittier Lionel. | ||
| He's a really shitty version of Lionel. | ||
| Yeah, Lionel's voice is super annoying. | ||
| I did get a lot of feedback from listeners about that. | ||
| Like, too much Lionel. | ||
| I can't handle that voice. | ||
| It is annoying. | ||
| It's so annoying. | ||
| But, I mean, it's better than that fucker. | ||
| So, Alex Tease is his next guest in this next clip. | ||
| Folks, we're going to start the second hour. | ||
| And if you thought this was big news this hour, we've got good news next hour. | ||
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I didn't. | |
| You think that hydroxychloroquine that we've been talking about for eight, nine weeks is good? | ||
| Turns out there's something even better. | ||
| And I did a bunch of research, talked to a bunch of medical doctors and a lot of stuff where I'm going to tell you about this. | ||
| Medical doctors. | ||
| I'm selling it, by the way. | ||
| Medical. | ||
| And I almost don't want to announce this until I go out and get it for myself. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Mike Adams is going to be on with us to talk about this coming up. | ||
| What I am selling is just good, natural things you know are good for yourself. | ||
| We have a great multivitamin, the real red pill. | ||
| I'm giving it 50% off right now. | ||
| You know it's going to sell out very, very soon because it's got zinc. | ||
| You know it's got zinc, Dan. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying that zinc does anything. | ||
| I'm not connecting zinc to any... | ||
| I wouldn't want to do that. | ||
| I'm just saying that it has zinc in it. | ||
| And perhaps on episodes prior, I have made it a point that zinc does good things. | ||
| Maybe you could use one of these things called a hypothetical syllogism and put together A equals B, B equals C, A equals C. Who knows? | ||
| Put it together on your own. | ||
| The FTC is not smart enough to figure that out. | ||
| No. | ||
| And maybe that's not illegal. | ||
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I don't fucking know. | |
| It's a mess. | ||
| So one of the things I think is really funny there is Alex is like, I don't know if I want to bring this information that I am presenting as really important health information to you because I know that I'm going to cause a run on a product and I want to make sure I have some myself. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Very weird, very strange. | ||
| No, that's an altruistic person right there, Dan. | ||
| I will tell you about the cure as soon as I already have it. | ||
| Have a bunch of it. | ||
| As soon as I have already hoarded the cure for this disease, you will know. | ||
| Now, the second thing is, I was listening to that and I was like... | ||
| I know that myself, I've been a fan of shows in the past. | ||
| And I know that when a certain guest is on that show, like a podcast, I'm going to be like, this is going to be good. | ||
| Andy Daly shows up on almost anything. | ||
| That's going to be like, oh shit, Daly's here. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Exactly like that. | ||
| I wonder if there are people who listen to Alex Jones and he's like... | ||
| We got Mike Adams coming up, and they're like, holy shit. | ||
| I'm gonna get the good info right now. | ||
| Shit's getting real. | ||
| Two million dead, 90,000 dead, zero dead, everybody dead. | ||
| I don't know day to day! | ||
| I wonder if there is a community of people who legitimately view his recurring guests as... | ||
| Like, the same way we look at, like, an Andy Daly or Mike Schmidt on Never Not Funny or something. | ||
| I just can't believe it, but there have to be, right? | ||
| There has to be something like that. | ||
| That's disgusting. | ||
| That's really sad to think about. | ||
| Yeah, that bummed me out a bit. | ||
| That's a real bummer. | ||
| Thanks, Dan. | ||
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That's the reverse of my bright spot. | |
| So, Alex goes to break. | ||
| He's teased that Mike Adams is coming up. | ||
| He's not here yet, but he does have another guest. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And that is a big old gun on his desk. | ||
| We're a TV viewer. | ||
| You notice that I have a very nice H&K German firearm right here. | ||
| The rented tank of guns, they call it. | ||
| It's the gold standard still of a 9mm submachine gun. | ||
| I love these. | ||
| And I've got a lot of 9mm submachine guns. | ||
| I guess I've got five of them, six of them. | ||
| For hunting. | ||
| Five, five, six, you know, smaller rifles and things. | ||
| And I've got.308 and I've got... | ||
| .338 Lapua, and I got.50 cals, and I got it all. | ||
| But this is probably my favorite gun. | ||
| For hunting. | ||
| I can hit bullseye pretty much all the time at 50 to 100 yards without even trying with this. | ||
| Without a magnified scope. | ||
| When hunting. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| But, you know, I use this for defense. | ||
| I can still carry it, but this is what I've got in my car. | ||
| What? | ||
| And it's because it's super accurate. | ||
| For not just offending myself, but if I see bank robbers or people robbing somebody, I can shoot them right in the eye. | ||
| If I see bank robbers. | ||
| If I see bank robbers. | ||
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That situation we're all very often in. | |
| If I'm driving around with my rifle in the car and I see some bank robbers. | ||
| Oh, gotta get out of the car. | ||
| It's time to stop a bank robber. | ||
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If I see some motherfucker looking like a Hamburglar running into the First National, I got a rifle. | |
| If I hear about what the Dalton gang is up to, I'm gonna be there, buddy. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I guarantee he's never used that gun in any, first of all, not for a bank robbery, but second, for not any similar situation. | ||
| I don't want to be a dick and be like, eh, you know, whatever. | ||
| Having a gun for protection and stuff like that isn't categorically a bad thing, but the way Alex is presenting this is ludicrous and so funny. | ||
| That's how his brain works. | ||
| He imagines he's going to run into a bank robbery. | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| He keeps it in his car just in case a bank robbery breaks out. | ||
| Also, he hates banks. | ||
| Why would he stop a bank robbery? | ||
| Because it's the right thing to do, Dan. | ||
| All of them are FDIC insured. | ||
| They're mixed up with the Fed. | ||
| He doesn't give a shit. | ||
| I feel like from his principles, he should be more likely to use that rifle in a bank robbery. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That is such that... | ||
| Mark Wahlberg being like, man, if I was on that plane, I would have stopped 9-11. | ||
| Just like, who are you people? | ||
| Fucking stop. | ||
| Misguided heroic masculinity is such a fascinating, fun thing. | ||
| Just go home. | ||
| Just go away. | ||
| So Alex gets into, in this next clip, talking about why is the gun on the desk? | ||
| Beyond the fact that he loves guns and he likes to show them. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The reason I have the gun out here is... | ||
| A gun I know can defend me. | ||
| And if a vaccine can be proven to be safe and effective, which they lie about, then I would take it as well. | ||
| And I'd shoot it. | ||
| But when they inject little kids and others with these vaccines and they have secret vaccine damage funds, that's admitted that they exist. | ||
| Billions a year paid out. | ||
| And then they tell you nobody ever got hurt by a vaccine. | ||
| They're damn liars. | ||
| It's like saying nobody died in a car wreck. | ||
| So that's like shooting a little kid. | ||
| It's like saying nobody died at Sandy Hook. | ||
| It's a weapon. | ||
| So Alex is making a completely incoherent argument here. | ||
| If you track his logic, it breaks down like this. | ||
| He loves this gun because it gives protection, but it can also be used to hurt. | ||
| In the same way, Alex would love vaccines if they gave protection, except they're being used to hurt. | ||
| The proof that vaccines are bad is that, quote, they lie about them being safe, which I don't know what he means by that. | ||
| In my experience, the lies about vaccine safety that I've encountered have almost entirely come from Alex's side. | ||
| Doctors and public health experts don't say that vaccines or any medication are totally safe. | ||
| They generally are pretty clear that almost everything comes with potential side effects, but that the incidence of those side effects are almost negligible compared to the benefit derived from vaccines. | ||
| Also, Alex and his friends constantly lie about various side effects that they imagine from vaccines. | ||
| The vaccine courts are not secret. | ||
| Outside of people's identity being kept private because that's confidential medical information that can't be released without invading patients' privacy. | ||
| We've talked about it a bunch in the past, but these payments are made not because the courts definitively prove that negative experiences possibly related to vaccines were caused by vaccines, but because if the system were set up in any other way, medical progress would be completely stalled and these people would end up losing almost all of these cases in normal courts. | ||
| The burden of proof is actually way, way lower in these vaccine damage courts than they would be in any other venue, mostly because very few of these people could ever make their case in an actual court. | ||
| Now, comparing this to the situation with people being shot by guns is interesting, because the folks that receive coverage by these vaccine courts, who are protected by them to an extent, are the vaccine manufacturers. | ||
| They have a certain amount of liability protection that the state assumes because of the gigantic public health benefit they provide, which would be stopped by having to deal with frivolous or just iffy court cases all the time. | ||
| But gun manufacturers are even more protected. | ||
| You really can't sue a gun manufacturer if one of their products is used in a murder of one of your loved ones. | ||
| The Supreme Court decided in November 2019 that Sandy Hook families could attempt to sue Remington, which is something to watch, but historically, that's not been something that's worked out, because how someone uses a product isn't the responsibility of the product's maker, generally speaking. | ||
| Alex understands that concept as it relates to guns perfectly well, and he yells about it all the time. | ||
| At the end there, he says that giving a kid a vaccine is like shooting them with an MP5, which it's not, but let's imagine that it were. | ||
| In the case of the kid being shot with an MP5, Alex would scream bloody murder if someone tried to sue the gun manufacturer, or the NRA for promoting guns, or anybody except the person who did the shooting themselves. | ||
| But in the case of vaccines, he wants to put the entire system on trial, as opposed to just the doctor who administered the shot, which seems weird. | ||
| To be clear, I think all of this is stupid, but I only bring any of this up because Alex is trying to use a metaphor that absolutely does not work, given his belief set. | ||
| Unless he's willing to accept that gun manufacturers should be opened up to liability for damage done by their product, it doesn't make any sense for him to be advocating that kind of thing for vaccine manufacturers. | ||
| If you want to talk about someone who's hurt by malpractice that involves a vaccine, that might be the same as accidentally shooting somebody. | ||
| But the metaphor doesn't hold. | ||
| Well, if it was an immigrant who accidentally... | ||
| Did some malpractice, then Alex would never, ever, ever, ever shut the fuck up. | ||
| Certainly, that would become a years-long running thing. | ||
| See, immigrants are the ones who created vaccines! | ||
| Yeah, there's an intrinsic problem with the way he's relating to this. | ||
| And the only reason I think it's actually interesting at all is because he went out of his way to put a gun on his desk in order to make this metaphor that's poorly thought out and contradictory to what he believes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So cool. | ||
| That's a good summation of Alex's show. | ||
| I've got a gun out here to make a point that doesn't make sense and actually goes actively against my stated principles. | ||
| Guns. | ||
| Love them. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| So now, Alex teased that Mike Adams was going to be on to talk about this new miracle cure. | ||
| Has Alex already gotten a ton? | ||
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What? | |
| Has he already gotten a bunch of the miracle cure yet? | ||
| I mean, in the last 15 minutes? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe even less than that. | ||
| No, it's probably a couple minutes. | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, then I can't believe it. | ||
| But it doesn't matter because Mike has already put an article out on Natural News about this. | ||
| So, like, the word is out. | ||
| So his new cure is more Ebola? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| No. | ||
| This is actually, like, closer to, like, in terms of, like, the really irresponsible stuff they do. | ||
| The kernel of reality here is closer to, like, this is in the public's interest to, like, maybe discuss a little bit. | ||
| Now, the way they discuss it is terrible. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But we'll get to that. | ||
| Here, Alex intros Mike to get into the topic of the day. | ||
| This is a big story at naturalnews.com. | ||
| It's also at infowars.com and newswars.com. | ||
| Please spread it. | ||
| Whatever you do. | ||
| We're in an information war about fighting for lives. | ||
| This is what we do. | ||
| Shingle dose of common... | ||
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| Agricultural drug found to essentially eliminate all viral material of COVID-19 within 48 hours. | ||
| So going into this right now is Mike Adams. | ||
| This is really exciting news, Mike. | ||
| It's really great news. | ||
| Thanks for having me on, Alex. | ||
| And I want to be clear, I think the fastest way to defeat the globalists is to defeat the coronavirus. | ||
| Because if they can keep this thing circulating, then they can eventually push for mandatory vaccines. | ||
| The way we cut off their vaccine agenda is to beat this thing without even taking much time at all. | ||
| We can beat it, I believe, with these kinds of off-label prescription drugs, or off-patent prescription drugs. | ||
| So what we have here, what they're promoting is this thing called ivermectin is the name of the drug. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so what you got here, there was a study that came out recently in the journal Antiviral Research. | ||
| It was released on April 2nd. | ||
| It was reporting on some research that was done about the antiparasitic medication ivermectin and its possible effect on the coronavirus. | ||
| Their findings taken simply show that ivermectin could decrease the viral load approximately 99.98% in 48 hours, which sounds pretty exciting. | ||
| But it's important to recognize that this is not conclusive and that there are caveats. | ||
| The first is that this study was done on human cells outside the body, or what's known as in vitro. | ||
| So to take these findings and just assume that they depict exactly how the body would react to the drug if you took it is pretty reckless. | ||
| It indicates a little bit of a lack of understanding about how the body works, which is what these dudes are about to engage in wholesale. | ||
| You can get one result in isolated cells outside the body, but these cells, when inside a human body, don't exist the same way they do in a petri dish. | ||
| They're components of a larger system that has complicated inputs and variables that could completely change the results of any in vitro study you might do. | ||
| Now, this isn't to say that this test or this sort of thing is worthless, but that the results of a test like this are things that should be taken as a stepping stone. | ||
| It's a sign of a possibility, but not something that's proven. | ||
| Whatever the effect that this ivermectin has on these human cells could be undone by some biological process within the body when these cells aren't isolated. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| It's compelling. | ||
| It almost demands further study, but it is not something that you can say gets rid of 98.98% of... | ||
| Coronavirus taken by people or whatever. | ||
| That's where you get into trouble. | ||
| You just blew my mind. | ||
| So you're telling me that human cells outside of the body can react differently than human cells inside of the body? | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| I just found out that you can transmit a disease when you don't have symptoms, Dan. | ||
| I take all of my scientific advice from Georgia governors. | ||
| That's what I do here. | ||
| They might not even know about the other one. | ||
| So you just blew my mind. | ||
| So it is, like what I was saying, this is interesting, and it's not something in the same vein as the chloroquine, because those studies were pretty flawed. | ||
| And from what I can tell, as far as I know, I don't know this, because I certainly would be in no position to know this. | ||
| But from what it said on the website of this journal, this antiviral research journal, this is peer-reviewed. | ||
| So it's not like... | ||
| This is an incredibly promising study that shows real signs of possibility. | ||
| However, that doesn't mean anything yet. | ||
| Incredibly promising is putting it too strongly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is a promising study. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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| Yeah, there is some potential here. | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| That doesn't mean anything yet. | ||
| But that's even reflected in the study itself, which concludes, quote, altogether, the current report, combined with known safety profiles, demonstrates that ivermectin is worthy of further consideration as a possible SARS coronavirus 2 antiviral. | ||
| The study shows that more research should be done, and not that this should be promoted as a cure. | ||
| What Alex and Mike are doing and getting ready to do is deeply irresponsible. | ||
| They just jump from one unproven miracle cure to another because they can't do anything else. | ||
| Their worldview and narratives have no depth to them, so they just have to keep moving and keep crafting elaborate and exciting things to distract their audience from realizing they're full of shit. | ||
| And also, another element to it is I think that they have to do stuff like this because the alternative is the stuff that Alex was doing on the last episode that ended up getting into... | ||
| Cause for war with China. | ||
| If you pursue that path too far, you're going to get tons of people killed through street violence against Chinese Americans. | ||
| You have to do something like this to make it so the focus isn't all on saber rattling. | ||
| And that's sad, because there's another way to do this, which is do neither. | ||
| You can get away with... | ||
| Influencing a lot of deaths slowly over time by a disease easier than you can get away with calling for war. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Although, hold that thought until the end of this episode. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Because we might also be at war. | ||
| Hey, what are you going to do? | ||
| Hey, what are you going to do? | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| These dudes are really taking this study in antiviral research and going too hard with it. | ||
| They're doing too much. | ||
| This story is about ivermectin, which is an agricultural drug. | ||
| You can buy it here in Texas. | ||
| You can buy it at tractor supply retail stores. | ||
| Sounds a little bit like a publisher, too. | ||
| Every cattle rancher has this. | ||
| It's a deworming drug, and it's available over-the-counter. | ||
| It's very inexpensive. | ||
| By the way, when you told me this, I remembered a large animal that I worked for that did major in vitro fertilization. | ||
| A large animal you worked for? | ||
| On for five years. | ||
| Jess Adkins. | ||
| I remember him saying... | ||
| Oh, you're getting sick? | ||
| Take dewormer. | ||
| I remember him drinking dewormer 30 years ago, bro. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We miss him. | ||
| 30 years ago, bro. | ||
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Bro, I've been drinking ivermectin for 30 years, bro. | |
| Bro, I'm not going to fuck around. | ||
| He can't be reached to guest on this episode because he died of dewormer toxicity. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| So, to be clear, this is a medication that is mostly a veterinary medication. | ||
| There is a human version, but it's called stromectol. | ||
| That is a prescription drug for humans. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| What Mike is doing is advocating that people take animal medicine. | ||
| Really take a step back and let that soak in. | ||
| The health ranger is promoting animal medications as a cure for the coronavirus based on a very much inconclusive study he doesn't understand. | ||
| That's staggering stuff. | ||
| Take it outside of the prism of we're in this world so we have So much jadedness to the... | ||
| Oh, it's brutal. | ||
| You write that down on a piece of paper and you give it to somebody to read who doesn't know about who these people are. | ||
| That's bleak. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's like a TV plot. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Like the guy who's just been in a firefight. | ||
| And he's running away from the cops and he knows he can't go to a real hospital so he has to go to his veterinary friend who still knows how to sew people up and pull the bullet out and he's like, thanks man, I can only trust you. | ||
| Like, that's what we're living in. | ||
| I'm thinking more it's the sort of thing that Alex would judge someone in a third world or developing country for advocating. | ||
| These people take animal medicine! | ||
| They don't even know a goddamn thing! | ||
| They're not even taking people medicine! | ||
| Yeah, it seems like that kind of thing. | ||
| It's kind of tough to see that as you constantly are just inundated by this stuff. | ||
| But you take it outside of the context of it being Alex and Mike, and it's like, this is ludicrous. | ||
| This is ridiculous. | ||
| Which means it'll be on Fox News tomorrow. | ||
| So hold on, though. | ||
| Mike wants to be very clear about this. | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| He is not recommending you take his medication. | ||
| Just to be clear, we're not recommending this for human consumption at the moment. | ||
| Let's be clear. | ||
| I'm just saying what I've witnessed. | ||
| Yes, let's be clear. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, people do take it. | ||
| I've had people text me and say they took it, they ate it, you can buy it as a... | ||
| Hey, I just want to be legally clear. | ||
| I want to be 100% legally clear. | ||
| I am not recommending you take this miracle drug that I am telling you cures the coronavirus. | ||
| Now, I should tell you that I know people who took the horse paste. | ||
| And it's apple-flavored, tastes bad, but hey, they love it. | ||
| They texted me. | ||
| But I am not saying people should take it. | ||
| Legally clear. | ||
| It really feels like that's the main line they're trying to walk there, which is fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Mike gets into talking about this study a little bit, and I don't think that he engaged with it well. | ||
| This has been published in Antiviral Research, which is a peer-reviewed science journal, and it's very clear. | ||
| The data show that this... | ||
| Can fight against simian virus, dengue fever, West Nile virus, Venezuelan equine encephalitis virus, influenza, and even a pseudorabies virus. | ||
| And this is available right now. | ||
| I am not recommending you take it. | ||
| Not for the coronavirus yet. | ||
| So this study doesn't show any of those things that Mike is claiming. | ||
| It references other studies that have indicated some promise for ivermectin as a broad-spectrum antiviral, but Mike is really overselling this thing. | ||
| Also, as it relates to dengue, the study literally says, quote, ivermectin was the focus of a recent phase 3 clinical trial in dengue patients in Thailand, in which a single daily dose was found to be safe, but not produce any clinical benefit. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| There may be something worthwhile here, but from the information that's available, this kind of talk from someone pretending to be a health ranger is fucking premature. | ||
| They are over-hyping this to an extent that's just deeply irresponsible. | ||
| Listen, I am not going to... | ||
| I am saying... | ||
| That you should not take this drug. | ||
| Don't take the horse paste. | ||
| That cures dengue fever. | ||
| That cures coronavirus. | ||
| Simeon virus. | ||
| That cures Ebola. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| That cures fucking polio twice over. | ||
| It double cures polio. | ||
| I'm not saying that you should take this. | ||
| Not rabies. | ||
| Pseudo rabies. | ||
| Pseudo rabies. | ||
| I'm not recommending that you take that, frankly. | ||
| I think it would be irresponsible for somebody to say you should take this drug that cures all diseases! | ||
| Bing, bing, bing, bing, what's this? | ||
| Oh, a text from someone who took it and it is doing great. | ||
| Oh, man, that's crazy. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I'm not recommending you take it, but this person on my phone who definitely is real. | ||
| So Alex seems to think that what's going on is that the media doesn't like people taking things off-label. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, whatever the drug is, they don't like you using drugs for different purposes than X. I thought, like, everybody did that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, drugs have different uses. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Like, Welbutrin is an antidepressant, but it's also a smoking cessation drug. | ||
| For sure, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's tons of things like that. | ||
| But the issue is, the thing that people are pushing back against isn't... | ||
| That, like, this is an off-label use. | ||
| It's that there isn't good science that shows that this is effective and it could hurt people. | ||
| So when the president comes out and says, why not? | ||
| Hey! | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| What do you got to lose, Dan? | ||
| And then the American medical editor is like, the living. | ||
| You have living to lose. | ||
| Don't do what the president says. | ||
| That's what people are responding to. | ||
| Not so much a vague concept of... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Off-label use. | ||
| Now, his complaint about this is dumb, but what makes it worse is then he goes on to name, him and Mike go on to name multiple drugs that are used for different things. | ||
| This might work if the hydroxychloroquine doesn't work for a patient. | ||
| This is another avenue. | ||
| By the way, the media acts like they don't want any hope that it's evil to have things off-label. | ||
| They don't want hope. | ||
| That's what always happens with some new disease. | ||
| It's almost always some old drug that's the answer. | ||
| Well, the media has been promoting off-label use of all kinds of drugs for many, many, many years. | ||
| That's nothing new to them. | ||
| What are they changing their story now? | ||
| You're doing it. | ||
| That was for 30 years until the 90s. | ||
| That was a high blood pressure medicine. | ||
| Now they learned it grows hair. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The little blue pills were first researched as a heart drug and found out it... | ||
| It gives men erections, so they changed the use there as well. | ||
| Yeah, but here's the thing. | ||
| Each of those cases that you're talking about didn't get changed just on a whim. | ||
| There were trials that were done. | ||
| I remember in the 90s, Clinton specifically came out and he was like, I don't know, you guys want boners? | ||
| Give it a shot! | ||
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Why not? | |
| What do you got to lose? | ||
| You want boners and hair? | ||
| Take these things. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| What do you got to lose? | ||
| The difference is the process. | ||
| The process is very important because If we didn't have that process, there would be people taking all sorts of fucked up things that will kill you and don't actually work. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which is what Mike... | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Mike Ebola cure Adams wants you to do. | ||
| Put a little Ebola in it! | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's really scary. | ||
| That level of thinking is really fucking scary. | ||
| These people are dumb. | ||
| Do they not realize people are dumb? | ||
| Well, the reason that this is really scary is because those examples that they come up with that they're like, this is how it always works. | ||
| It's like, you're on... | ||
| Those things went through the process that the people you're mad at right now are... | ||
| That's their point. | ||
| Rogaine wouldn't be used to grow hair if there weren't people who were like, we've got to try it out. | ||
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We've got to do all these tests. | |
| It's just such stupid... | ||
| It's such bad thinking. | ||
| No, they're children. | ||
| Yeah, it's terrifying. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They're toddlers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we have these now. | ||
| Bunch of treatments. | ||
| I mean, we've got hydrochloroquine. | ||
| We've got ivermectin. | ||
| We've got all these treatments. | ||
| So we don't need... | ||
| To listen to the man. | ||
| I really don't think that's okay. | ||
| This effect is that it blocks the replication of this virus. | ||
| This was tested against the coronavirus, the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is what we have right now. | ||
| This just adds to our treasure chest of possible treatments that are available right now. | ||
| Alex, we don't have to be under lockdown. | ||
| We don't have to be under lockdown! | ||
| We don't! | ||
| Yeah, because we've got all these treatments! | ||
| And if they try and give you a vaccine... | ||
| Fucking run. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You run. | ||
| You get away from them, and you take some hydrochloroquine, and some ivermectin, and some fucking zinc, and you fucking hole up and go back to work at the same time! | ||
| Get some dog heartworm medication, and bop, bop, bop, you're good. | ||
| Put some apple paste in there, and you call it a day. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So, you fell into a little bit of a trap there that I actually find very disappointing. | ||
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What? | |
| And that is that you thought that SARS-CoV-2 wasn't the coronavirus. | ||
| I didn't realize that COVID-2 was a thing. | ||
| Well, C-O-V in the middle of it. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| SARS-CoV-2. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's one of the names of the... | ||
| That's one of the names now. | ||
| That's one of the... | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, it has been. | ||
| I've been stuck with COVID-19. | ||
| That's just what I've been dealing with. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Cool, cool, cool. | ||
| I'm fine with that. | ||
| They're the same thing. | ||
| But Alex... | ||
| Doesn't quite get that as well. | ||
| You and Alex might be in the same camp here. | ||
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| So that's why when you talk about this good news, a single dose of common anti-agricultural drug found to essentially eliminate all viral material, that's a major study. | ||
| That you're linking to. | ||
| And people think, oh, well, they go, well, this is a new virus. | ||
| You can't say that. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's from the same family as coronavirus. | ||
| So the study is about the SARS coronavirus, too. | ||
| And Alex is saying it's in the family of virus. | ||
| Sure, but it's the same COVID-19 that we're talking about. | ||
| They're just using a different name currently in order for a different taxonomy to make sense, I guess. | ||
| Yeah, in a different context. | ||
| So Alex... | ||
| Mike corrects him, like, no, that is the same virus. | ||
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| And so Alex tries to cover for not knowing. | ||
| He tries to pretend that, like, well, you know, I know these things. | ||
| You've got this big study that's in a prestigious journal, antiviral research, FDA-approved drug, ivermectin. | ||
| It inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro. | ||
| And again, some are going to spin that and say, that's not COVID-19. | ||
| Explain, that's the original name is SARS-CoV-2, correct? | ||
| Yeah, that is the coronavirus. | ||
| That's the Wuhan coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2. | ||
| The original SARS from however many years ago it was is SARS-CoV-2. | ||
| I was reading comments that that's why people don't get it that it's had a bunch of names. | ||
| But the official original name is SARS-CoV-2. | ||
| So yeah, Alex is trying to really cover for not knowing it, as opposed to you owning up to like, yeah, I didn't realize it was the same. | ||
| I have absolutely no problem being in the same boat as even Alex in not knowing something. | ||
| If I was in the same boat as Alex in denying that I didn't know something, then I have a very serious problem. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's unfortunate that you didn't realize that, but at the same time, it is a nice moment of the difference in reaction. | ||
| You're not threatened by... | ||
| I hadn't seen it before, so fucking cool. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
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| Great. | ||
| I don't mind being wrong. | ||
| So Alex does mind. | ||
| He does. | ||
| It's a real issue. | ||
| He really has to try and cover for it, and that's great. | ||
| In this next clip, Mike, much like Patrick Hawley, is really... | ||
| A brilliant thinker? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Take an aim, right between the eyes, Dr. Fauci. | ||
| Dr. Fauci is a Bill Gates puppet. | ||
| And Dr. Fauci is Trump's enemy. | ||
| In fact, Dr. Fauci has under oath lied to Congress about vaccines. | ||
| Citation needed. | ||
| Vaccines cause horrific side effects. | ||
| Dr. Fauci wants America to suffer and die until he can push a vaccine onto everybody in order to carry out his orders. | ||
| Oh, he's following a Bill Gates blueprint. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, we just got this inundation of, like, this guy is Trump's enemy. | ||
| I'm confused as to what the game is on this one. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, this seems like... | ||
| We've taken a harsh pivot towards this being primarily an anti-vax situation. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But now... | ||
| They just can't put it aside. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| They just can't put it aside for like five seconds. | ||
| It seems like Fauci is doing the best he can with the expertise he has and the limitations that he's dealing with. | ||
| But he's not perfectly in line with Trump's bullshit, so he's a threat and he's an enemy. | ||
| I know, but that seems so stupid. | ||
| It does. | ||
| On a level that it's just unconscionable. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's exactly what you should expect based on the last couple years that we've been following this. | ||
| It seems like you would imagine that like... | ||
| From all the stuff we've seen, they'd just be like, okay, look, we were fucking around for a long time. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| Look, this is serious now. | ||
| Or find a way to keep the business profitable while not being so jeopardizing of people's health. | ||
| This is that thing of people... | ||
| The people who know things are the enemy! | ||
| Kill the smart one! | ||
| It is like people who are of the opinion that like, oh, all it will take for humanity to really come together is a threat outside of humanity that we can all unite around. | ||
| And it's like, no. | ||
| Alex Jones would be like, one, Independence Day is bullshit. | ||
| There are no aliens. | ||
| Sure, you saw the White House blow up. | ||
| The White House blew up on itself! | ||
| And it's just like, no. | ||
| Those aliens are working with the globalists, and they're just trying to scare you. | ||
| You saw the White House blow up. | ||
| It was just trying to scare you to bring in martial law. | ||
| They tell you that aliens are running around so you shouldn't leave your house, but that's just because they don't want you to leave your house. | ||
| Will Smith was born in Kenya. | ||
| Like, whatever. | ||
| You guys are going to try and kill the human race no matter what. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is really a bummer. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And a lot of the primary direction that this seems to be going on this episode, and I mean, obviously, anti-vaccination narratives have gone throughout. | ||
| Like, Alex's fear of imagined forced vaccines and stuff. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But it seems like that's becoming a bit more primary. | ||
| But also, You know, the idea of killing off everybody through a world war also seems like it might be in Alex's wheelhouse. | ||
| It would be a bad idea. | ||
| I legitimately think that this next clip, Alex is trying to start a world war. | ||
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| China, I predicted this in early February, they would try to export the virus to infect as many other countries as possible so they could shift the blame away from China. | ||
| And that's exactly what's happened. | ||
| That's all this is. | ||
| They're just trying to make sure they can rewrite history and blame, you know, Trump instead of... | ||
| China's incompetent corrupt leaders. | ||
| But what the hell with all these videos of Chinese trying to spread it? | ||
| And then they're executed if Xi Jinping doesn't like it. | ||
| He's encouraging this. | ||
| Well, yeah, again, it's the anti-American hatred that's been put in place because China, you know, the social engineering propaganda is what precedes war. | ||
| China is going to attack the United States in more ways than just this biological weapon. | ||
| I've been writing about that recently as well. | ||
| There are more attacks coming, Alex. | ||
| That's kind of the big news right now. | ||
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We're in war with Communist China. | |
| When is it time? | ||
| To fight back. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| When is the time to fight back? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Mike already, like, way back, predicted a ground invasion of the United States by China. | ||
| So for him, this is all just kind of... | ||
| Something that America has historically been terrified of. | ||
| Yeah, this is all kind of in the same vein as some of the other bullshit he's been saying. | ||
| But, like, you get into a point where Alex is like, what are you doing? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Advocating for a world war with China? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you think that's just going to be no big deal? | ||
| Do you think... | ||
| China doesn't also have allies? | ||
| Well, no, no, no. | ||
| Do you think the BRICS countries aren't all basically going to form an ally? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Let's not do this again. | ||
| Dan, it's good versus evil. | ||
| We don't need to worry about the world getting involved. | ||
| Everybody's going to stay out of the way. | ||
| It's going to be like a one-on-one. | ||
| It's going to be like an Achilles versus Hector kind of situation. | ||
| America versus China. | ||
| Get them in the ring. | ||
| One night only, we're going to solve this whole problem. | ||
| No, it'll be like The Fiend versus John Cena, in that the fight won't happen, and it'll be a deterioration of America's ego. | ||
| Oh, God, that needs to be deteriorated pretty hard. | ||
| I just think that this is so dumb. | ||
| I think it's really irresponsible. | ||
| I obviously don't think it's going to lead to a world war, but in terms of the rhetoric that he's putting forth, you're getting to that point where it's like, well... | ||
| What you seem to want to happen is that. | ||
| You seem to want circumstances that would lead to no other option than open war between the United States and China. | ||
| And that is a hellscape. | ||
| That is something that I can't imagine anybody wanting. | ||
| Even someone who hates China. | ||
| I can't imagine them wanting that. | ||
| Here are the options that Alex has kind of provided us an issue with. | ||
| There's global cooperation between all of these countries to try and destroy or to try and overcome the SARS-CoV-2 virus. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Or global world war killing an exponentially greater number of people. | ||
| For the sake of lies. | ||
| And the ultimate irony, too, is that what he seems to want, or the path that his rhetoric takes you down, is much closer to that lockstep scenario that is in the Rockefeller document. | ||
| That he's so terrified of. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The idea of nation-states becoming even further insulated and more autocratic and at war with each other, regional alliances. | ||
| It's dumb. | ||
| It's a dumb response. | ||
| That is the summation of his entire career, as we've learned in the past three years, is scaring people and terrifying them of something so much that they work to bring it about. | ||
| Maybe unintentionally. | ||
| I don't know if that was his goal all along. | ||
| But like, oh, I'm so terrified of a dictator and of a tyrant of all of this shit. | ||
| And thank God we can elect Trump to stop that and suspend all elections and suppress voters and do all of this other shit. | ||
| And you're like, are you fucking with me? | ||
| Was this a huge reverse psychology situation the whole time? | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| No, I doubt it. | ||
| They're just too stupid. | ||
| So, speaking of people who are stupid, in this next clip, Mike talks about some people he went to college with. | ||
| And this is supposed to be in the context of his... | ||
| He has a big point that he wants to make about 5G. | ||
| Oh, I was hoping it was the movie Porky's. | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Although, I don't remember Porky's perfectly well, but there might be a scene similar to this. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| With 5G towers? | ||
| No, it does involve drinking, though. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| So, his point is that 5G sets you up to get... | ||
| Coronavirus. | ||
| Because the way that it electrifies your blood or something, it makes the cells... | ||
| It ionizes them to cleave to the virus better. | ||
| And this is the same as when he was in college. | ||
| And his buddies would lick batteries in order to get drunk faster. | ||
| By the way, this is the health ranger. | ||
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All right. | |
| I've known people back in college who would drink alcohol and they would get drunk by having voltage pass through their fingers. | ||
| They would hold battery leads and they would get extra voltage and it would make the alcohol like five times more effective. | ||
| They would actually get drunk due to the electroporosity. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| Because it's pushing it into the cells. | ||
| Yeah, it's pushing the alcohol into the cells. | ||
| It makes you more drunk with less alcohol. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, man, this is like when I used to hang out with a bunch of potheads in college, and they'd be like, you gotta cough to get off, man. | ||
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If you don't cough from hitting the bong, then you're not really getting high. | |
| This reminds me of, I don't know if you saw this press conference, but this one was not as widely circulated, but Dr. Fauci was like... | ||
| You should not take hydrochloroquine just yet, because we don't have all the evidence about it, in the same way that when I was in college, we used to butt chug, and it didn't turn out that that made us get drunk any faster. | ||
| I strongly disagree. | ||
| I saw him lance it, that butt chugging is... | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| I really think that a college drinking short story should be the basis for a lot of health decisions that I've made in my life. | ||
| Hey, listen, 5G's dangerous because my buddy's licked batteries. | ||
| Alright, bro? | ||
| That is what he's saying! | ||
| I don't know if there's any truth to this, but I tried to look into it, and I did not find any evidence that some sort of electrifying voltage makes you drunk faster. | ||
| Even back then, Mike Adams really knew how to push the envelope. | ||
| Nobody was even testing for whether or not licking batteries would get you drunk faster. | ||
| It just seems like some dumb thing that you say in your dorm. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| So in this next clip, Mike says something else stupid, but that is fun stupid. | ||
| This is more paranoid stupid. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Speaking of blood draws, by the way, what Governor Abbott announced for Texas, you know, when they test your antibodies, they're going to track your DNA, too. | ||
| So this is also a way to just secretly steal everybody's DNA without permission. | ||
| Same thing with the nasal swabs. | ||
| When they get a little bit of virus on that nasal swab, that deep cavity swab, they're also getting your DNA. | ||
| So this is a way to create a DNA database of everybody. | ||
| That's why I'm not going to get tested. | ||
| I'm not going to get an antibody test. | ||
| I don't want the government having my DNA. | ||
| So now they're trying to make everyone scared of testing. | ||
| Alex has already tried this contaminated test narrative, which is curiously absent in this episode. | ||
| I don't know what happened in the days, couple days since then, but he was crying about China sending out contaminated tests and now is not even bringing it up at all, which is super suspicious. | ||
| Now Mike is trying to make everyone scared of getting tested because they're going to take your DNA and put it in a database. | ||
| Do you not think that any time you've gotten any kind of blood drawn or anything, they could do that if that was the intention? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I'm at the place now where it's like... | ||
| It's such unreasonable paranoia. | ||
| You idiots, Mike, Alex, Trump, whomever, contract COVID and then cure it or shut the fuck up. | ||
| I'm done with all these lies about what cures bullshit. | ||
| What a twist would that be. | ||
| I'd be great. | ||
| If Mike Adams... | ||
| If they did it? | ||
| Great. | ||
| Mike Adams gives himself coronavirus and ends up becoming the... | ||
| He tests on himself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He does the penicillin and malaria situation. | ||
| He does the whole thing. | ||
| He fucking infects his son and cures him in front of the Nobel Prize Committee. | ||
| Becomes a hero for the ages. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Or he's a guy telling you to take cow medicine. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Fucking put up or shut up. | ||
| I'm done with this bullshit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So the two of them here talk about this is the last sort of thing that they have together. | ||
| And that is, they talk about this video that came out on YouTube. | ||
| And it's actually kind of interesting. | ||
| Because it... | ||
| It doesn't belong on InfoWars, yet can be used by InfoWars, that kind of thing. | ||
| So Alex is going to talk about this a little bit, and he's just kind of out of line. | ||
| Mike Adams, thank you so much. | ||
| When we come back, you're going to be gone, but you pointed this out to be a Natural News article. | ||
| I looked it up. | ||
| Bombshell plea from NYC ICU doctor, COVID-19, a condition of oxygen deprivation, not... | ||
| Pneumonia. | ||
| We've got one minute. | ||
| Tell folks what's coming up with this because he points out that this is not pneumonia. | ||
| Very important story. | ||
| This emergency physician has noticed that the ventilators are causing the lung damage. | ||
| They're running the wrong methods. | ||
| Ventilators are causing too much pressure to the lungs because the dogma of the medical system is thinking that this is viral pneumonia. | ||
| It isn't viral pneumonia. | ||
| It's oxygen deprivation. | ||
| And that emergency physician knows exactly what he's talking about. | ||
| Lungs are being damaged. | ||
| By ventilators running the wrong methods. | ||
| That's the story. | ||
| And so what he's saying is they need a higher oxygen mix. | ||
| They need to run a different method with lower pressure and just support the lungs absorbing oxygen, not take over the lungs by forcing them with higher pressure that causes tissue damage. | ||
| That's what he's saying. | ||
| We're going to play what the doctor said. | ||
| I'm sure the left in media matters will say, do not play doctors. | ||
| Only George Soros, the Nazi collaborator. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Bingo! | ||
| He loves you. | ||
| Take the vaccines. | ||
| Thank you, Mike. | ||
| So, this doctor in question is a guy named Cameron Kyle Sedell. | ||
| And he put out a YouTube video claiming that he's seeing things that indicate that this is not a pneumonia-like disease, and his recommendation is changing the settings on the ventilators. | ||
| I'm not sure if there's good data to back this up, but Alex's comment at the end there is really stupid. | ||
| Like, there is an article in, like, the New York Post and other outlets about this guy's video and what he's bringing to the table. | ||
| Discussing, is there a possibility that there is a better treatment than what we've been using? | ||
| It's an interesting perspective, but Alex thinks that this dude's going to get a ton of pushback because Alex gets a ton of pushback for his irresponsible shit. | ||
| I don't know what to make of this doctor and what he's bringing to the table. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't possibly know. | ||
| But the response that I've seen from non-InfoWars outlets isn't like, Fuck this guy. | ||
| Because it's not him telling you to take dewormer. | ||
| It's someone saying there's a possibility that there is a better treatment. | ||
| And people are like, is there something to this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We don't know yet. | ||
| But Alex thinks like, no, Soros is going to shut it down. | ||
| No. | ||
| People hate you. | ||
| People hate you because of a very different behavior. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| So Alex says he's going to play that video as he's going out to break there. | ||
| And he comes back and I expected to hear that video. | ||
| I did not. | ||
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Are you sure this isn't how the clip starts? | |
| It's not like other intelligent people don't know what we're talking about is accurate. | ||
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They decide to join with Sauron. | |
| They decide to join with Satan. | ||
| They get scared or they get flattered being offered to be part of the power structure. | ||
| But, you know, I've always been so high on life that every time I got around the Satanist, I felt cold and weak. | ||
| I didn't feel strong. | ||
| And so no matter how much danger I'm in or how much I'm being attacked, I've got this continual courage from God. | ||
| He was like an hour ago talking about how people should be maybe exterminated. | ||
| Bill Gates is right because they're dumb. | ||
| That's the courage of God! | ||
| What a dick. | ||
| Also, I love the idea. | ||
| Other intelligent people get flattered into things. | ||
| It's such a chef kiss kind of moment. | ||
| He's just capable of projecting any of his failings onto everyone else. | ||
| One of the other things, in terms of trends that I've been seeing a little bit, one is the flu to cold pivot, in terms of discussing the coronavirus as the cold as opposed to as the flu. | ||
| One of the other things I've been noticing a lot lately is Alex seems to be getting really fucking prophet-like lately. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Talking about how God is speaking through him, that kind of thing, a bit more. | ||
| And this next clip, I think, is really indicative of that. | ||
| The smarter and greater my discernment gets, God just goes, turn loose. | ||
| I'm in control. | ||
| Just go with what I tell you. | ||
| It's not me. | ||
| It's God. | ||
| And it's crazy. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And so I don't look forward to whatever they're going to do to me because it gets pretty outrageous. | ||
| But for every door that closes, other doors open. | ||
| There's providence. | ||
| It's a real thing. | ||
| So research providence, my friends, and don't be fearful. | ||
| Fear he who can kill the body. | ||
| Fear he who can kill the soul. | ||
| Now, this has been sold out for 14 weeks. | ||
| Get him. | ||
| That is unreal. | ||
| That is unreal. | ||
| You were fucking dancing around like you had a fucking absolute banger and then you delivered? | ||
| God damn! | ||
| That is unreal. | ||
| For those of you who are not in the room, I was doing a bunch of religious poses while Alex was talking about Providence. | ||
| That is... | ||
| Hey, as my discernment gets better, it's not me. | ||
| It's God speaking through me. | ||
| I have this provident... | ||
| Now, let me tell you, this stuff's been sold out for a while. | ||
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Goddamn. | |
| Just such a harsh pivot. | ||
| Look, I know you've lost your jobs, but you gotta tithe to me because the Lord seeds and so on and so forth and Paul the White Cane should be the president. | ||
| I have to assume Jesus would turn over a table in Alex's studio. | ||
| I think Jesus would take that whole nonviolence policy and be like, I really fucked up on this one, guys. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| I'm gonna take care of him, him, him, and then we'll do the nonviolence. | ||
| Jesus would confiscate Alex's... | ||
| So he does end up playing that guy's video. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| I realize that I might have made it sound like he doesn't play it. | ||
| He does play it. | ||
| But he has no analysis. | ||
| He didn't come back with it. | ||
| And he also has no analysis for it that's worth listening to. | ||
| It just turns into a bit of an ad thing. | ||
| And then he plays it right at the end of the show and goes out. | ||
| But I have one last clip and it's just like Alex. | ||
| So he's been trying to sell his zinc, obviously. | ||
| And he's been doing it great. | ||
| Well, I would say that it's been bad, but this is even worse. | ||
| Like, he seems to be trying to tell his audience, like, hey, look, man, I don't know. | ||
| Don't take it from me. | ||
| But doctors have been telling me to take a dangerous level of zinc. | ||
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Great. | |
| Zinc sold out everywhere. | ||
| People debate about how much zinc should you take. | ||
| I was taking 30 milligrams a day. | ||
| I talked to a lot of folks, and they said, no, you should take 100 during this virus. | ||
| But I'm not giving that advice. | ||
| Doctors are saying if you have COVID-19, 250 milligrams. | ||
| I looked that up. | ||
| That's toxic to your kidneys. | ||
| I'm not a doctor. | ||
| I called the doctor back and he said, well, that's true. | ||
| But he said, you know, this is so crazy. | ||
| Long term, it's bad for your kidneys. | ||
| I would go ahead and do this now just to be safe. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I'm not giving medical advice. | ||
| They've got the George Soros groups breathing down my neck. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That is the great moment right there. | ||
| I've got the George Soros people breathing down my neck. | ||
| I'm not giving you medical advice. | ||
| As if they weren't breathing down his neck, he would say, take 250 milligrams. | ||
| It's dangerous. | ||
| It's dangerous, but doctors are telling me, hey, look, dude, if you're not giving medical advice, don't do this. | ||
| Don't have this conversation at all. | ||
| It's useless. | ||
| There is no point to have this conversation outside of... | ||
| some sort of insight you're giving your audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And the insight that you glean from this is like, if you trust Alex as a source of information, he's talked to doctors who are like, hey, look, this will cause damage, but you should take tons of zinc Because this is a higher zinc needed time. | |
| It's fucked up. | ||
| I would be so much better if all of these people continued peddling their bullshit. | ||
| Conspiracy theories. | ||
| I continued with all that nonsense. | ||
| But for now, the point was like, stay home, social distance, don't do anything fucking stupid. | ||
| I'd be fine with it. | ||
| Because at least now we're like, we're just going to do the thing now, and then we'll deal with all this shit later. | ||
| Stay home, but what will really save you is aromatherapy. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Great! | ||
| Love it! | ||
| But as long as you stay home and social distance. | ||
| That kind of shit. | ||
| And I think you could sell that. | ||
| I think you could. | ||
| I think you could. | ||
| I absolutely think you could. | ||
| I sell potpourri that helps you relax from the virus now. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| I don't think I would be as offended by that, probably, because there would still be not a contradiction of what will help. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| But these guys are just... | ||
| This is tantamount to a fucking... | ||
| What? | ||
| Manslaughter? | ||
| Criminal negligence? | ||
| I don't know what else to describe these people. | ||
| I don't know how else to describe Trump as anything other than somebody who's committing mass-scale murder right now. | ||
| You should have asked the guys on opening arguments. | ||
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It's insane. | |
| Well, the problem is the law clearly doesn't mean anything anyways, so there's an issue. | ||
| Yeah, it's tough. | ||
| And one of the things I think is really interesting about this episode in particular, and one of the reasons I decided to do an episode about it, is that you have the development of the hydrochloroquine narrative into the ivermectin narrative, and it's better in terms of some reality. | ||
| It's closer to reality, but it's still the same behavior. | ||
| It's still the same reckless and responsible behavior. | ||
| These dudes... | ||
| To the level of criminal. | ||
| Without doubt, to the level of criminal. | ||
| Regardless of whether or not there is a law that you can use to enforce it, this is a crime. | ||
| Now, Jordan, what pisses me off the most... | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Is that he didn't talk about QAnon. | ||
| Well, that's tomorrow! | ||
| I understand, though, today, if you're listening to this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I understand, but I wanted, like... | ||
| If you are building to a pay-per-view in wrestling... | ||
| It's not like you're going to not talk about the fight. | ||
| No, you pretend it doesn't happen. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| Alex called QAnon out a week ago. | ||
| I know. | ||
| And he has done almost nothing on his show in terms of building the feud. | ||
| Because I think he realizes this is going to be a bust. | ||
| Dan, I am going to lap up your disappointment like ambrosia tomorrow whenever you realize that none of that is going to happen. | ||
| My disappointment is going to be fantastic and I'm excited for it. | ||
| Don't think you get some sort of schadenfreude out of this. | ||
| I'm not getting schadenfreude out of it. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| I'm saying it's going to be delicious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We will see. | ||
| And we'll be back on our next episode where we will deal with Alex's big reveal of QAnon. | ||
| Or not. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We also are on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledgefight. | ||
| And I go to Bed Jordan. | ||
| Yes, we are on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook. | ||
| We like to download the show. | ||
| Please do the iTunes, knowledgefight, review rate, donate to the podcast, do the whole thing. | ||
| Thank you very much to Opening Arguments for bringing us on, etc. | ||
| Yeah, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
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| I'm DZX. | ||
| Clark. | ||
| I am Patrick Hawley's diction coach. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |