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April 6, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#416: April 2, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan take a look at the Alex Jones Show from April 2, 2020 (baby!) In this installment, Alex fails miserably at proving some of his theories about Globalist plans, and has a profound on-air meltdown after one of his earbuds falls out.

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alex jones
31:56
d
dan friesen
01:18:54
j
jordan holmes
24:08
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a
anthony fauci
00:10
b
bill gates
00:07
f
francis a boyle
00:05
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
What do you got for a bright spot this week?
dan friesen
I guess, maybe.
I don't know.
It's an iffy one, but we're recording this on Sunday.
It's WrestleMania weekend.
jordan holmes
WrestleMania!
dan friesen
I'm not sure I thoroughly enjoyed the first night, but it's still fun, you know?
unidentified
I don't know.
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
I was telling you about the Boneyard match before we started recording, and I thought it was horrible watching it.
Maybe I'm out of the mainstream in that opinion, but it was fun to tell you about it.
So I guess there's that.
And I texted our friend Marty DeRosa, who's a huge wrestling fan, and he was telling me that he loved it.
jordan holmes
He loved it.
dan friesen
So maybe I'm out of step.
Maybe I just thought it was corny as fuck.
jordan holmes
Hey, come on, man.
Now is the time for corny as fuck.
dan friesen
Maybe so.
Maybe so.
Maybe I'm a little jaded.
jordan holmes
You're going to love it.
Tonight, you're going to get another crack at it, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
Much like I always go into Alex's attempt to prove things with the highest of hopes.
I will enter night two of Wrestlemania also with, like, no matter what, I'm going to enjoy watching a little bit of nonsense.
jordan holmes
Come on!
Yeah!
dan friesen
So, there's that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
And for me, king of the raptor princesses, John, got me a very, very generous, generous gift.
Or he tricked me into giving him my address in order because he's the BTK killer and I'm about to get BT killed.
So it could be that.
dan friesen
At least you did the abbreviation correctly there.
jordan holmes
But yeah, it was an incredible gift that came at a time when it...
Just blindsided me, and it was very, very kind of him.
dan friesen
Super cool.
jordan holmes
Huge, huge thank you to John.
dan friesen
It was not a gift for me, but I'll still say thank you, John.
Yeah, that is very nice.
So, yeah, we got some bright spots.
Mine may be slightly a little more disappointing than yours, but I will take WrestleMania.
jordan holmes
Are we competing for bright spots?
dan friesen
Yes, yeah, maybe that's the new thing.
It's a fight.
It's a bright spot fight.
jordan holmes
Who can live a happier day?
dan friesen
That's the challenge.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we are going over April 2nd, 2020.
It's 2020, baby!
jordan holmes
Now we're in!
Now I'm in!
No more goddammit!
That's the good shit!
dan friesen
I don't know.
It doesn't feel quite right, but we'll see.
So we're going over that April 2nd episode.
That's Thursday of last week.
And I intended to do Thursday and Friday for this episode, but Thursday is just too fucking insane.
This is one of the weirder rides we're going to go on.
There's a lot of emotional ups and downs.
There's some Alex trying to prove stuff.
There's factually inaccurate claims.
There's cautious belly.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
All right.
So we're just taking territory now.
That's what we're doing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, it gets to that by the end of it.
So get ready.
Strap it in.
We will see if we make it through.
But before we get to that, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first of all, Lindsey, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Lindsey.
dan friesen
Next.
David, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, David.
dan friesen
Next.
This could be zoetropes or zoetropes, Z-O-E tropes.
Not entirely sure, but either way, thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Alice.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Alice.
dan friesen
Next, Levian.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Levian.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Rachel.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Rachel.
dan friesen
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people who donated on an elevated level and appreciate that very much.
So first of all, Andy, thank you so much.
You're now a technocrat.
And Sean, thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Sean, and thank you so much, Andy.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much to the both of you.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoy the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, or finding a local charity in your area that supports people who are in need in these trying, difficult times we find ourselves in.
jordan holmes
Yes, we would like both.
dan friesen
Yeah, or either.
jordan holmes
Or either, yeah.
unidentified
Give money to charity, but also to us.
jordan holmes
Okay, let's not forget the real charity.
dan friesen
Come on now.
So Jordan, today we're going to start on April 2nd at the beginning of Alex's episode.
And this is a little bit of a longer clip for a first clip, but I wanted to...
Alex is insisting that this clip he plays of Anthony Fauci, it proves something.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's going to be like a guiding thesis for the episode moving forward.
And it's not.
It's pretty lame.
alex jones
Yes, this is it.
The world government bio-attack we always knew was coming from the very medical tyranny deep state mad scientist led by Dr. Faust.
unidentified
Are we looking at living with some sort of social distancing guidelines, essentially until there's treatment or a vaccine?
For example, people looking forward to the summer talk about going to baseball games, going to concerts.
We have political conventions over the summer.
Are things like that possible or safe without a vaccine or a treatment in place?
I think if we get to the part of the curve that...
Dr. Burke showed yesterday when it goes down to essentially no new cases, no deaths at a period of time, I think it makes sense that you're going to have to relax social distancing.
The one thing we hopefully would have in place, and I believe we will have in place, is a much more robust system to be able to identify someone who's infected, isolate them, and then do contact tracing.
Because if you have a really good program of containment that prevents you from ever having to get into mitigation, we're in mitigation right now.
That's what the social and physical distancing is.
The ultimate solution to a virus that might keep coming back would be a vaccine.
anthony fauci
In fact, I was on the weekly conference call with the WHO-sponsored group of all the health leaders in the world who are dealing with this.
unidentified
And we all came to the agreement that we may have cycling with another season.
We'll be much better prepared.
We likely will have interventions.
But the ultimate game-changer in this will be a vaccine.
the same way a vaccine for other diseases that were scourges in the past.
alex jones
We're going to analyze every facet of that.
That is the final confirmation that it's all absolutely staged with a real virus, and it's the globalist takeover.
dan friesen
So, I don't think that proves that.
jordan holmes
I didn't get that.
That wasn't my first reaction to it.
dan friesen
Not your takeaway?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
That wasn't the thing that I was thinking, but I'm interested to see where this goes.
dan friesen
I think you could predict where it goes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
dan friesen
But, I mean, the clip of what Fauci was explaining makes perfect sense to an adult listening.
But it's interesting because, you know, you listen to enough Alex Jones that I think you can hear that and see the points where he's going to take things.
jordan holmes
Well, contact tracing, I heard that and I was like, nobody should be allowed to tell Alex about contact tracing.
That should just be kept away from him.
dan friesen
Well, certainly.
That's one thing you can point to.
It's like, okay, he's probably going to twist that.
But there's a bunch of little things in there.
It's like, oh, I see how he's going to manipulate this.
That's a fun little game.
At home, if you're listening, write down the ways you think Alex...
Alex is going to fuck around with that.
jordan holmes
Pause it, re-listen to the clip, figure out what it is you think is going to go on, and we'll see how you do.
dan friesen
Send you a prize.
So Alex gets down into talking about how Fauci's saying that there's going to be forced vaccinations that end up coming, and he sort of rambles.
alex jones
We've got to have forced inoculations, and of course, the coronavirus mutates more than flu viruses.
You have to get the exact mutation, so it'll be a yearly injection, of course.
unidentified
laughing laughing laughing laughing Oh, and all the social distancing.
alex jones
You haven't had your yearly or monthly shot.
Well, and you criticize it anyway.
You're not allowed to travel.
You're not allowed to live.
dan friesen
So Alex is severely misunderstanding what was being said about the future reaction to the coronavirus in the post-distancing but pre-vaccine landscape.
What Dr. Fauci was saying in that clip that we listened to up top is that there are two distinct phases of response to an outbreak where different strategies are effective.
When there are not many new cases and no real community spreading of the disease, you can isolate individuals who get sick and track down the people who they've been in contact with and have them also self-quarantine until the incubation period for the disease is passed.
This strategy can work well in those circumstances, but once there are as many new cases and as much community transmission as is happening now, you have to adjust to mitigation tactics like what we're seeing now with social distancing.
Alex seems to imagine a world where self-quarantining will be used as punishment against anti-vaxxers or some dumb shit.
I don't know how he got that from Fauci's comments, but I would bet that when this is all over and the country has gone through this deeply traumatic experience together...
If you're actively trying to get people not to be vaccinated and risk all of this happening again, I bet a lot of people will distance themselves from you socially.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think anyone will need to force anyone to.
I think we will tell you to fuck right off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think anybody's saying hi to Melissa McCarthy anytime soon.
dan friesen
As for that mutations thing, Alex has no evidence or reason to suggest that the coronavirus mutates more than flus do.
He's just making that up.
But even if it were true, it's not necessarily a good argument against vaccination.
The issue of mutations and vaccines are not a clear-cut black and white issue.
Alex wants you to think it's a thing where you make a vaccine against the coronavirus and then it mutates and the vaccine doesn't work anymore.
But, of course, the issue is more complicated than that.
For one, just because a virus has undergone a mutation, that doesn't mean that an existing vaccine won't be effective against it.
This isn't really accurate, since mutations that happen with viruses are random events, and often the mutations that occur aren't really relevant to the immunity that a vaccine will create.
It's entirely possible there could be multiple strains of the coronavirus that are all prevented by the same vaccine.
On March 24th, the New York Magazine Intelligencer reported on how the coronavirus actually has a very low error rate, which is to say that it's mutating very slowly, considering how many times it's been transmitting and replicating.
Peter Thielen, a Johns Hopkins molecular geneticist, said, quote, that's a relatively small number of mutations for having passed through a large number of people.
At this point, the mutation rate of the virus would suggest that a vaccine developed for SARS-CoV-2 would be a single vaccine rather than a new vaccine every year like the flu vaccine.
What Alex is really doing here is just some basic-ass anti-vax stuff, and it's pretty uninspiring off the top.
unidentified
He starts slow.
jordan holmes
Anti-vaxxer stuff is far more palatable whenever there's no massive global pandemic going on.
And now anti-vaxxer stuff kind of feels a little bit more murdery.
A little bit more on the side of...
Maybe unintentional manslaughter area.
dan friesen
The stakes are becoming a little bit too overt.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is uninspired levels of shit that Alex is doing.
I would want him to be a little bit more creative or crazy with his ideas that he's bringing to the table.
And so this basic ass shit.
So one of the big things that everyone, of course, is being bombarded with and probably for good reason and well, you know, justifiably.
Wash your hands.
Everybody, you know, there's messaging about wash your hands more.
jordan holmes
Right.
Somehow a message that we're still struggling to grapple with.
dan friesen
So Alex is mad that they played a video of Elmo telling people to wash their hands.
jordan holmes
You can't say that sentence.
dan friesen
On Fox Business, I think?
jordan holmes
Those aren't words you can say.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
alex jones
Fox Business is the worst.
They have all their hosts at home because it's too deadly for them to even go out.
They've got Elmo there talking to adults about how to wash their hands.
And I'm going to explain how this mind control works in a moment.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
He doesn't.
alex jones
Let's go ahead and go to this clip.
unidentified
Watch, watchy, watch, watchy, watch, watch.
You're a...
Scrubble while you sing this song Wash, wash, wash, wash, wash, wash It's kind of fun This is a banger, man Then the places in between Using soap and water Make sure that's okay Wash your hands Reach out your eyes The creator of Elmo, the guy that first played him, is a pedophile.
Wash your hands for 20 seconds, just like Elmo.
alex jones
Just like pedophile Elmo.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about Kevin Clash here, and I think Alex just committed slander.
There have been accusations about Clash in the past, and I'm not entirely sure what the reality of that situation is, but Alex isn't saying that there were accusations.
He's saying that Clash is a convicted pedophile, which is not true.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
This is just a demonstrably false statement, and Alex is reporting it as fact.
Leaving that aside, even if the puppeteer of a particular character were to be a criminal, that doesn't make the puppet a criminal.
jordan holmes
No, the puppet is the puppeteer, Dan.
dan friesen
Alex is the type of person who thinks like a ventriloquist W is really rude.
jordan holmes
Of course it is.
dan friesen
That puppet is rude.
jordan holmes
I'm not a dummy.
He's a dummy.
How dare you, sir?
We shall meet for pistols at dawn.
dan friesen
Like, if you learn that the person who played Big Bird is a fence for stolen goods, that doesn't affect the character of Big Bird.
jordan holmes
I can't trust Big Bird anymore.
He stole my watch.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
So anyway, Alex is mad at Elmo.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I'm not positive if that video...
jordan holmes
You know who else is real?
Chucky.
That's all.
We're all in.
dan friesen
I'm not positive that video being played on Fox Business is trying to convince adults to wash their hands based on Elmo.
It might be reporting on that video existing.
jordan holmes
That would make more sense.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, I don't really care.
jordan holmes
I don't think Lou Dobbs is going to be playing Elmo videos anytime soon.
dan friesen
Probably not.
So, in this next clip, this is where I got really excited because this opening to the episode is not strong.
But Alex, like, whenever he says he's going to prove something, I get pumped.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And Alex gives me a tease for something that's coming up later.
alex jones
Now, in the last segment of this hour, we put together an extremely informative, powerful report that is going to premiere here that lays out admissions.
By the establishment technocrats that by 2020 they would launch the bio-attack.
They said 2020.
dan friesen
Fuck yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Alex is going to prove it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He's given himself an artificial deadline of, I have a report that I'm going to play.
It's already done.
jordan holmes
The special report is done.
You're doing the thing that makes me think he's not going to play it.
dan friesen
No, he is going to play it.
I thought you were going to say, you're making me think that he's not going to prove it, and you'd be right.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
I never considered that as a possibility at all.
dan friesen
He does end up playing it, but it's thoroughly disappointing.
But I always get really excited because it's like, okay, you're trying now.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're trying.
unidentified
That's nice.
dan friesen
You have stated on your own, without anyone forcing you to, that you are trying.
You think this proves something.
Therefore, I can take it more seriously.
jordan holmes
Sir, you have entered my arena.
Welcome.
dan friesen
Right.
So here is, this isn't the actual report, but it is another sort of factual claim that Alex makes about bringing in the world government.
It's dumb.
alex jones
We will have world government by 2020.
No matter how much money and how much blood it costs, that is in congressional hearings in the 1980s and 90s.
We will have world government in 2020, and it will be paid for with money and blood.
That's the exact quote.
Look it up.
You can see who said it.
dan friesen
Fun!
Alex doesn't know who said it.
When Alex says something like that, that means I don't know what I'm talking about.
So this is a little bit of a lie, which shouldn't surprise anyone because it's Alex Jones talking about a quote.
One thing that's important to point out is that it doesn't mean anything for someone to say that something's in the congressional record.
If they're saying that to say it's proof that it's real or proven...
There are countless examples of weird editorials and opinion pieces that congresspeople have just read into the record over the years.
jordan holmes
It is not as hard to become a congressperson.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
It should be harder.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This doesn't make the things that they read into the record officially accurate.
It just means that someone in congress decided to read them on the floor.
My point is that if someone says to you, it's in the congressional record, odds are very strong they're trying to pull a fast one on you.
That is not a good, like, argument.
jordan holmes
Hey, do you know what else is in the congressional record, Dan?
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
Quotes from fucking Elmo.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
As for the actual quote Alex is referencing, he appears to actually be mixing up two quotes.
The first is a comment by James Warburg in front of the Senate in 1950, which was, quote, we shall have world government, whether we like it or whether or not we like it.
The only question is whether world government will be achieved by conquest or consent.
This is in the context of a speech about the need to create peace with the Soviet Union and about how international law and relations need to have a positive aspirational goal, because if that wasn't the focus, things will remain the same, which is to say they will tend towards war.
So we talked about this in the Endgame episode in much greater depth, but that quote is completely out of context.
jordan holmes
Somebody really close to a post-war situation watching the Korean War about to break out all over again was probably like...
Maybe less war would be a good idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So the other quote is, quote, We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.
This is said to come from an article by Arthur Schlesinger Jr. in the Foreign Affairs Journal.
The citation that's listed with it says that the article is called, quote, Back to the Womb?
Isolationism's New Threat, from Volume 74, Number 2 of the journal.
JSTOR has the full catalog of foreign affairs available to you to read if you'd like, if you find yourself, like, I don't know, quarantined with a whole lot of time to kill.
So if you pull up Volume 74, Issue No. 2 of the journal, one thing you'll find is that there is no article by that name in it.
There's no article by Schlesinger, even.
That's because most conspiracy sites give the wrong citation.
It's actually from Volume 74, Issue 4 of the journal, and the title is actually Back to the Womb, Isolationism's Renewed Threat.
Very bad citation work here.
Wow.
Anyway, first, I will say that the quote is actually in the text.
That is fair.
jordan holmes
Hey, that's a good sign.
We're doing good.
We're off to a good start.
dan friesen
Of course, it's taken out of context.
jordan holmes
All right, well, that's not great.
dan friesen
The article is about the push and pull in the United States between isolationism and internationalism, and how it seems like, except when we're in a crisis that appears to directly affect U.S. interests, we forget about international matters or any responsibility we may have to help...
Facilitate world stability.
jordan holmes
What a crazy thing for somebody to say.
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, Schleschen's are even, you know, he says that that makes total sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
From the piece, quote, How to persuade the housewife in Zinnia, Ohio, that her husband, brother, or son should die in Bosnia or Somalia or some other place where vital U.S. interests are not involved.
Yeah, I mean...
jordan holmes
That's kind of a...
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's saying it's a good dream, but it doesn't seem like we're doing it.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
You can't send people to die for strangers despite the humanitarian reality of it.
That's unfortunate.
dan friesen
So here's the wider context of the quote about paying in blood and money from this paragraph.
Despite two grievous hot wars, a draining Cold War, and a multitude of smaller conflicts, the Wilsonian vision is as far from realization today as it was three quarters of a century ago.
In the United States, neo-isolationism promises to prevent the most powerful nation in the planet from playing any role in enforcing the peace system.
If we refuse a role, we can't expect smaller, weaker, and poorer nations to ensure world order for us.
We're not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as words and money.
The point he's making is that the dream of a peacekeeping system detached from material and concrete interests is possible for the United States, but it's probably unlikely due to our tendency towards isolationism, which was on the rise back when this was written in 1995.
Schlesinger wraps up his essay with this thought.
Quote, perhaps our leaders should put the question to the people.
What do we want the United Nations to be?
Do we want it to avert more killing fields around the planet?
Or do we want it to dwindle into impotence, leaving the world to the anarchy of nation-states?
From that sentence, you might draw the conclusion that he's super opposed to nation-states.
But if you read a little further, he says, quote, If we cannot find ways of implementing collective security, we must be realistic about the alternative.
A chaotic, violent, and ever more dangerous planet.
Maybe the costs of military enforcement are too great.
National interests narrowly construed may be the safer rule in an anarchic world.
But let us recognize, as we return to that womb, we are surrendering a magnificent dream.
jordan holmes
I would say that he was way wrong.
Nations states are the best.
I haven't seen any negative consequences.
Are you saying that there's been some intervention in the world?
Violent conflicts?
Where?
Humanitarians, they're fine.
What?
dan friesen
If you just take the original quote about paying for the New World Order and blood and money, you can make it sound like the author is talking about some villainous shit.
But if you read the full editorial, you'll understand the context and what he's talking about.
Alex has never read this article.
He doesn't even know who wrote it.
He's just seen a quote on some dumb blog, and he's pretending like this is from the congressional record.
This is just all a lie.
Alex is just lying.
jordan holmes
He's a liar.
That's a real bummer.
dan friesen
I mean, it's not really.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no.
I mean, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, that whole...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The whole circumstances.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, we've heard in the past, Alex, comparing the coronavirus to the flu, certainly.
And I've noticed a little new thing here on the second.
Seems to want to compare it to the common cold a bunch.
Seems like he's ramping up comparisons.
jordan holmes
Can't see any difference.
alex jones
All the big world health leaders, and they agree only the vaccine will save us now.
They know the public's ignorant on average about virology and all of these systems.
jordan holmes
I want to learn from you.
alex jones
Immunology.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
You understand that the coronavirus is the most common virus on terra firma.
jordan holmes
All right, well, let's stop there.
alex jones
It's the cold virus.
It's the common cold.
You always heard, if you read bioweapons manuals and studies in Congress, they were always worried about someone weaponizing the common cold.
Because the common cold already kills, they estimate, around 50 million people a year globally.
unidentified
*laughter*
Tough.
dan friesen
Tough to say.
So, it is true that the cold can be caused by viruses that are part of the coronavirus family, but that's a severe oversimplification to try and pretend that this 2019 novel coronavirus is in any way really similar to the cold.
It is a specific virus in that umbrella grouping, but that doesn't mean they're the same.
Also, the cold is caused by many other things, like rhinoviruses.
jordan holmes
You mean Republican and name-only viruses?
dan friesen
I suppose.
So two human coronaviruses, OC43 and 229E, are responsible for the common cold, or are ones that are responsible for the common cold.
Coronavirus NL63 is also thought to cause some cold symptoms, but it's a slightly different situation.
HKU1 is another virus that causes mild symptoms generally.
And then you have the big ones, SARS, MERS, and COVID-19.
That is it in terms of known coronaviruses that can affect humans.
It's a big family of viruses, but there are only seven that we know of that can affect people.
This isn't a science show, so getting into the nitty-gritty details of it are probably beyond my capabilities, but there is, you know, a taxonomy of viruses, and this is just one family of them.
They share distinctive characteristics, like the fact that they have single-strand DNA, but past those similarities, there's pretty substantial differences between them.
jordan holmes
Just like the Huxtables.
dan friesen
One of the problems with Alex's claim about the deaths from the common cold is that there's no way he could have a good stat on that.
Cold and flu symptoms are often almost indistinguishable, and you're not going to be able to find isolated numbers of deaths caused by the common cold.
From the sources I was able to find, it appears that those numbers would most likely be lumped in with, quote, influenza-like illnesses stats that Alex already uses poorly regularly.
jordan holmes
You've already given, what, at least three viruses that can contribute to common cold-like symptoms?
dan friesen
And there's even more.
jordan holmes
Like, when you say, oh, you could die of the common cold, that's...
It's like saying you could die of any virus that causes humans to exhibit common cold-like symptoms and just say that that's the common cold.
The common cold isn't a virus.
dan friesen
It's a grouping of symptoms, more or less.
Yeah, that's a problem for Alex's bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because it's symptoms, not cause.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets back into talking about the virus.
It's killing men.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He thinks it's an attack on men.
jordan holmes
Of course it is!
What else would it be, Dan?
dan friesen
And then I think he's getting back into, like, trying to sell his zinc.
alex jones
And of course, we told you eight, nine weeks ago that it was mainly killing men.
You said it was race-specific.
jordan holmes
You said it was Chinese men.
Asian men.
Race-specific.
alex jones
We're going to get to those statistics today.
jordan holmes
Did you forget that?
alex jones
It's a weapon.
You have to be deficient.
All of the evidence is mounting.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
alex jones
Of zinc and vitamin D and vitamin C to be able to die from it because those are defenses.
Zinc blocks it inside and out to the cell.
Go to NIH and type in zinc.
We've saved it.
They'll probably take it down.
dan friesen
So, some of the data is tending to show a higher incidence of men being folks who have died from this virus, but it's way too early for anyone, including myself or Alex, to definitively say they know why that's the case.
The earliest numbers pointing this direction came from China, where they showed a 2.8 fatality rate among men compared to a 1.7 rate among women.
The first hypothesis that was offered was that men smoke way more in China, so this might be the cause.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
An article in The Guardian cites a stat that 50% of men in China smoke compared to only 2% of women.
However, as data has come in from other countries, this loses some of its potential explanatory power.
In Italy, more men than women smoke, but the divide isn't nearly as drastic as it is in China, and the trend of more men dying of coronavirus still holds there.
Numbers are showing that people who smoke are at a higher risk of having severe cases if they contract the virus, but it doesn't look like a good explanation for the difference in death rates.
An article in The Independent quotes Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at Columbia University, who pointed out that this difference in death rates was also observed in the case of SARS and MERS, so it might be a distinct feature of coronaviruses in general.
Right now, no one has a good answer about this, but in time, more information will come out, and hopefully it'll be better understood.
jordan holmes
The answer is just the Y chromosome is garbage.
Boo.
dan friesen
There might be a chromosomal...
jordan holmes
No, I mean, it's entirely possible.
Nobody has any idea.
dan friesen
For Alex to come on his show and pretend that he knows what's up here is basically him saying that he understands science better than literally all of the scientists in the world, which is a little bit full of hubris, as he pronounces it.
jordan holmes
Here's my pitch to Alex.
dan friesen
But then again...
I don't know of any scientists that cogitate like a cogitator.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Or a cogitor.
jordan holmes
Not many scientists do that.
dan friesen
So Alex might have them beat on that front.
jordan holmes
They generally cogitate differently than the cogitors.
I think here's where we go.
Here's what you bring back.
Now that you've got the men die more, bring back the fluoride in the water, Dan.
That's where you go with it.
Fluoride turns the frogs gay.
That's why men are more susceptible to viruses.
They've been weakening men for years now, Dan, and he's right all along.
dan friesen
That's where you go.
We might get a little fluoride guest appearance later, but I don't know.
jordan holmes
You've got to lean into it.
dan friesen
I don't know if Alex could make that work.
jordan holmes
He's right.
He was right all along.
He was right all along.
dan friesen
So the rest of that clip, I think he's just trying to sell his zinc.
It's an interesting strategy, and I wonder if you can get in trouble for aggressively selling one of your products because it has zinc in it, then stopping doing that and pivoting to just presenting zinc as a proven prevention for the virus.
I wonder if that's trouble.
I mean, we'll see.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
All I heard there was four people in a room and two lawyers and them coming up with different strategies and lawyers being like, no, no, worse, no.
Maybe that'll work.
I don't know.
Give it a shot.
I'm done here.
dan friesen
Anyway, I'll just get more billable hours.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
So, this next clip is Bad Science.
My favorite 80s movie.
Then a weird ramble.
alex jones
20 years ago, they couldn't do this.
Now, the last 15, it's on record.
So, imagine what else they've got.
They can edit and manufacture a virus and know how it's going to mutate 30, 40, 50, 60 replications down.
jordan holmes
That's not possible, even in sci-fi.
alex jones
To use viruses, mutate, and then sometimes get deadly, rarely, and then they quickly burn themselves out.
This baby seems to be getting worse.
Well, I said that nine weeks ago.
I said, these universities say it's man-made, it's got all these different systems put on it, it attacks four different parts of the body at least, and it comes back.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Soft kill weapon.
jordan holmes
Soft kill weapon.
alex jones
Oh, wait, then I better be scared.
It doesn't matter.
It's here to take your rights.
They're saying now, officially...
jordan holmes
Corona took my gun!
alex jones
Let's say they got rid of all the virus forever.
That's impossible.
Then governments would just say somebody died from it.
And now, because one person jumped off the side of a diving board once wrong in 1980.
They didn't jump out.
They jumped over like an idiot.
Six feet to the side and broke their leg.
They sued the local pool and they got rid of the diving board.
jordan holmes
And all the king's horses and all the king's men.
dan friesen
I don't know why that's the analogy he's choosing to make, because many pools still have diving boards.
jordan holmes
No pools, no diving boards.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
unidentified
Nowhere.
dan friesen
I don't understand the link in his brain.
jordan holmes
They even shut down Olympic diving.
dan friesen
Also, the government didn't make anyone stop having diving boards, and it wasn't the government suing anybody.
There have just been people who've been hurt on diving boards who then decide to sue whoever, like, the pool.
It's led to some people choosing that it's not worth the risk to have a diving board or not wanting to pay for liability insurance for diving board-related injuries.
That's a factor for public and at-home pools alike, but it's a choice you can still make if you want to.
I don't understand.
Anyway, scientists can't predict what mutations viruses are going to have.
That's absurd.
These mutations are caused by random errors in RNA replication, which isn't necessarily a predictable process.
To be clear, there are a certain number of replication errors that can possibly be made.
You know, there's only so many places that replication errors could be made.
jordan holmes
RNA is RNA.
dan friesen
So I guess you could say that you can predict that in one cycle of replication, it's possible one out of a ton of possible errors could be made.
But this would be a giant number of possible mutations, and any number of them are possible.
So I don't know how helpful that would be.
jordan holmes
It is...
Incredibly stupid for one very simple reason.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
If you know what mutations that it could make 50 to 60 replications down the line, then that suggests that when you created the virus, you knew how it's going to mutate, giving you a depth of knowledge that would give you the ability to keep it from mutating.
unidentified
The entire purpose of a bioweapon would be...
jordan holmes
Gain the correct outcome.
dan friesen
But if your goal is to get it to where it is 50 mutations later, you would just release the 50 mutations later.
jordan holmes
Of course!
Or if you wanted it to achieve a goal, you wouldn't want it to mutate and do something different.
dan friesen
Right.
The strategy is stupid, and it doesn't make sense.
But there are some caveats, just because me saying scientists can't predict these things, it gets into complexity.
And I don't want to just make that blanket statement.
Because scientists can use the principles of natural selection to guess what sorts of mutations would be favored by nature to be more successful.
A mutation that would make a virus less debilitating, for example, would make it more likely to be passed on to new hosts.
So you would expect that in the case of that kind of a mutation happening, it would become a more prevalent strain of a virus.
What Alex is talking about is the idea that scientists engineered this virus because they knew how it would end up mutating, which is just not within the range of what scientists can do in the real world.
They can take an existing virus and, with some accuracy, predict what sorts of adaptations would be the most successful.
It's just not even close to what Alex is saying because he's just making shit up.
Most importantly in that clip, Alex is saying that the virus is very bad and it keeps coming back.
This is a direct contradiction to his narrative from March 24th of this year where he was saying that it wasn't a big deal and how if you get it, you're just going to be sick for nine days and then you're good.
jordan holmes
That was forever ago.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's really important to recognize that Alex's narratives make no sense when combined with each other.
He's simultaneously telling his audience, this is no big deal.
You get it.
You're sick for a little bit.
You should go back to work.
And he's also saying, it's a horrible bioweapon that attacks multiple parts of your body and it keeps coming back.
These are incompatible.
And Alex shouldn't be able to do stuff like this to his listeners.
jordan holmes
Ah, but he can.
And nobody is going to stop him, apparently.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, in this next clip, we learn that Anthony Fauci is bad news.
alex jones
Now, someone might die from a virus.
And so we will end the lockdown, says the head officer running this, who has worked for Bill Gates for 30 years.
jordan holmes
Oh, for fuck's sake.
alex jones
$100 billion grants, Dr. Fauci.
So Bill Gates is operative.
And it looks like Trump's doing Bill Gates, man.
I think Trump overall is a good guy, but I mean, he didn't go with...
jordan holmes
Hold the fucking phone.
alex jones
...and Amazon for putting the Pentagon on the cloud.
The Pentagon shouldn't be on a cloud of somebody else's.
That's treason right there.
And instead, Microsoft gets the contract.
I mean...
jordan holmes
Okay, so Trump is a globalist.
Trump is officially working with Bill Gates, a globalist.
Thus, Trump is no longer the strong man, powerful, dear leader that he wants.
dan friesen
He's a globalist.
Nothing matters.
unidentified
No, he's evil.
jordan holmes
He's a globalist.
dan friesen
None of this is real.
jordan holmes
No, he's globalism!
dan friesen
So, I'm honestly shocked at the accusation that Fauci works for Bill Gates hasn't come up yet.
I'm shocked it took this long.
jordan holmes
Yeah, me too.
dan friesen
That seems like a real no-brainer, considering he's the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, and a ton of the Gates Foundation philanthropy surrounds issues of infectious disease.
But I think Alex is getting things a little twisted.
The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease is a government agency.
It's funded by tax dollars, not grants from Bill Gates.
It's one of the institutes of the National Institutes of Health, which is contained within the Department of Health and Human Services.
The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease is really in the same kind of lane as the Gates Foundation in that they both fund research.
So it's pretty easy to connect Fauci and Gates that way.
A simple Google search will pull up articles about joint ventures between the NIAID and Gates, but it doesn't prove that Fauci got money from Gates or that he works for him.
I've looked into it a little bit, and I don't really see what's so suspicious about their connection.
So I consulted right-wing blogs to see if I could get a better sense.
That's a good idea.
That's a good idea.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
So I found a post on Alex's buddy Tom Papert's website, National File, titled, quote, Fauci and Birx both have big money Bill Gates conflict of interests.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a pap smear if I ever saw one.
dan friesen
One thing I thought was really interesting was that the image they chose for this post was just of Bill Gates when it's super, super easy to find a picture of Fauci and Gates together.
No idea why they didn't use that for heightened effect.
jordan holmes
That is kind of interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or lazy.
Lazy was the word I was looking for there.
dan friesen
It's one of the two.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So here's what this blog entry says.
Quote, Gates has a lot of pull in the medical world.
He has a multi-million dollar relationship with Dr. Fauci, and Fauci originally took the Gates line supporting vaccines and casting doubt on chloroquine.
So there's a claim.
Let's see if there's any proof.
jordan holmes
The Gates line.
Okay.
dan friesen
This is as close as the article gets to proof.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
Quote, they are co-funding the Cambridge, Massachusetts biotech company Moderna Inc.
jordan holmes
Got him!
dan friesen
To develop a vaccine against the Wuhan novel coronavirus, now called SARS-Coronavirus-2.
Moderna's other partner is the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, a part of the National Institutes of Health.
Head of NIAID is Dr. Anthony Fauci, the person at the center of the Trump administration virus emergency response.
I guess my response to this would be, so what?
jordan holmes
Smoking gun.
dan friesen
Fauci isn't co-funding anything.
The NIH is.
jordan holmes
No, smoking gun.
dan friesen
The NIH is providing some funding for crucial medical research that Bill Gates also has provided some funding for.
What is the conspiracy?
jordan holmes
The buck stops everywhere else, Dan.
That's all I know.
It doesn't go to the top.
dan friesen
The only other evidence provided is that in 2019, it was reported that Gates and the NIH were also both providing funding Again, what's the conspiracy?
jordan holmes
Disgusting!
How dare they?
dan friesen
This article is legitimately so pathetic that it ends by trying to smear Fauci by showing a picture of him with Hillary Clinton and a screenshot of someone tweeting an email released by WikiLeaks that shows that, quote, Fauci is a Hillary Clinton admirer.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
This is so sad.
This article is nothing.
It's a complete zero.
But the headline says that Fauci has Bill Gates-related conflict of interests.
And that allows Alex to spin it and say that he's on Gates payroll and now we're off to the races.
That's how this works.
jordan holmes
I really feel like these guys are going about it all wrong.
Somehow I feel like they're still trying too hard because it seems like you could write a program that, look, all you need to do, here's what you need to work on if you're in a right-wing blog.
The headline.
Then just write a program that copies and pastes all kinds of shit.
You don't need to do anything.
dan friesen
It's like the old Onion.
Like, no one read the articles.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Just the headlines.
Put the headline out there.
Get a good lead.
dan friesen
I bet the Onion infuriated Alex.
Never tell if it was real or not.
So, I'm also...
I know you were laughing and scoffing about this, but I'm sad to hear that Alex is now realizing that Trump is not cool.
It's so weird that it takes him seeing Trump work with Bill Gates to get that, but whatever.
jordan holmes
Well, he's never worked with Bill Gates before, obviously.
dan friesen
I don't know what the newest information about the Pentagon Cloud deal with Microsoft is, but the last update I saw was from March 13th, and it was a bunch of stories about how Microsoft had been awarded this contract, but the Pentagon was asking courts to give them time to reconsider it.
This was because Amazon was claiming that there were irregularities with the contract awarding process, so they wanted time to sort it all out.
Either way, it's really strange to hear Alex say that Trump giving a contract to Microsoft instead of Jeff Bezos is bad, which implies that it should have gone to Bezos, who Alex also hates.
I don't know, man.
This is a good time as any to remind you that nothing Alex says means a thing.
jordan holmes
Nothing is real.
dan friesen
No.
So, Alex teases his big report again in this next clip.
Based on the way he describes it, I'm like, this is not going to be good.
alex jones
And the lockdown can never stop.
Well, you notice China announced the lockdown again today.
Oh, because it popped back up.
It's any province.
They want to round up political dissidents.
Any province they want to shut down.
It's total power!
And they said they'd do it in all these documents we cover in the last segment of this hour.
Very powerful report we're about to premiere.
Very powerful.
Very proud of it.
First rate, Rob Doos stayed up super late with Jeremy Breen and others to get this done.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
What were the two big strikes there?
unidentified
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Alex saying he's proud of it.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
And Rob Doos stayed up late working on it.
jordan holmes
Rob Doos stayed up all night.
Rob Doos pulled an all-nighter on this one.
dan friesen
Rob Doos not great at peak hours.
I can't imagine how bad his work is late at night.
jordan holmes
A few Red Bulls and vodka tonics, and that is a guy who will put out some good shit.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm very proud of it.
dan friesen
It's like seeing a bad trailer for a movie you had no hopes would be good.
jordan holmes
Kevin Sorbo is in this Christian film, and you're like, you know what?
dan friesen
I already thought that was going to be bad, but that trailer is disappointing.
That's how I feel after that clip.
In this next clip, Alex talks about these distancing measures and how it's polite.
If you're walking down the street not to walk next to somebody or something, Alex thinks that it's bad to be polite or something.
And then he keeps doing this weird condescending voice whenever he's talking about the virus.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And then everyone gets into it and it's like a new form of hospitality or gentlemanliness manners to go, oh, I'm sorry.
First it was six feet.
Now I can't get 27 feet away.
I'm sorry.
Oh, my phone says I'm essential.
I get to go out.
My app says China has this in place now.
It's being announced for us here.
And you notice Fauci says in the clip that I'm about to play again.
jordan holmes
Can I get that up on Android?
alex jones
Last night the press conference says, oh, we're going to have surveillance systems that know we're going to catch it and we're going to have people locked down.
I watched the whole press conference last night.
And we're going to probably have to cycle this and throttle it.
And, oh, oh, you can't go out here.
You can't go out there.
They're going to have a county-by-county thing at first.
And just getting us all trained that we can't go out until we're told.
unidentified
And that's the way it is to keep us safe from the virus.
dan friesen
So you see multiple things that he's completely twisting from Fauci's comment there.
And one of them is exactly what you guessed.
It's very predictable.
jordan holmes
It's kind of ridiculous that he sounds like a whiny baby while pretending to make fun of other people for sounding like a whiny baby?
dan friesen
Wait until we get through this.
jordan holmes
He's just a whiny little baby.
Oh, I can't go outside where I want to go!
dan friesen
Like, some of this towards the middle and end of this episode is as baby-ish as I've ever seen this fucking 46-year-old.
This is sad.
It's embarrassing.
The level of immaturity on display is so pathetic.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, I can't go out for two months?
unidentified
Oh, but I want to go places!
jordan holmes
Save lives.
Shut up.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's entirely what's behind his shit, but there's a strain of it.
So Alex believes that people love quarantine and self-isolating and stuff.
They love it because the reality is...
jordan holmes
It's definitely not driving us all insane.
dan friesen
Well, they don't want to work.
Well, that's fair.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then this gets into, like, this is the first point of the show where I was like, uh-oh.
Like, I really felt, like, untethered.
Up to this point, things have been stupid, but it's like Alex Jones' show is stupid.
jordan holmes
Trump is a globalist.
dan friesen
This is where I was like, oh, no.
jordan holmes
Okay, here we go.
dan friesen
You ever get that feeling of, like...
I don't know.
I would relate it to maybe when you're a kid and you're in the pool and you don't really know how to swim, but you can swim a little bit and you're walking towards the deeper end and you get to that point where you realize your feet can't touch.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, no, I almost died like that.
dan friesen
You have that little moment of panic of like, oh no, oh no, oh no.
That's what I felt in this clip.
jordan holmes
Oh, that happened to me and I went down and under.
I almost died.
dan friesen
Oh shit.
Well, you will maybe be re-traumatized by this clip and how untethered it feels.
alex jones
And we're so domesticated and so soft and such TV heads waddling around now, on average, that people are getting into it now.
Because they don't want to go to work.
And most people at most jobs aren't even working anymore.
unidentified
I don't want to work.
alex jones
Hospitals are empty all over the country because most surgeries are elective and things and people hypochondriac and people do constant medical stuff because they want the pain pills.
There are whole industries where they're doing constant surgeries per finger, and people get, you know, surgeries every month, so they get their pain pills.
Of course, every time they put you under, it causes brain damage.
Now, the reason there's so many brain-damaged people everywhere is the average person's have like 15 surgeries by 50. I was just like, uh-oh, uh-oh.
dan friesen
I just felt like, oh, what are we doing?
What are we doing?
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Did somebody give him a bump before the break?
I don't know what happened there.
What is going on here?
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know where he's getting any of that information.
jordan holmes
Surgery's before the age of 50. Everybody's out here having a great time, and everybody's fucking, oh, there's inside.
unidentified
They're getting rid of all their finger surgeries.
jordan holmes
That's what's going on right there, man.
dan friesen
Because they want the pills.
jordan holmes
You just need the pills, man.
dan friesen
Someone do a surgery on my finger real quick.
jordan holmes
I feel like he needs some surgery on his finger right now.
dan friesen
I should tell you.
That being under anesthesia doesn't cause brain damage unless something goes wrong.
With a procedure.
That seems like something the health ranger must have told Alex, and now he's just repeating on air without looking it up.
There are some caveats, though, of course.
A 2019 article in the Journal of Anesthetics does point out that studies have shown that, quote, multiple rounds of anesthetic exposure in children under two to four years of age are associated with learning, difficulty, and academic underachieving in childhood and adolescence.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
The same was not true of single exposures, though, and generally a doctor would not anesthetize.
...
there was very good reason to do so.
Even so, this article makes a really good point about the limitation of retrospective studies that could be done about the effects of anesthetics, and that is that no one just takes anesthetics.
There's another variable that's always in place, which is the surgery.
And it's pretty difficult to ignore that when you're looking at the data, which is why most of these studies will not talk about the effects of anesthetics on development or brain.
It would be anesthetic and surgery.
They're almost impossible to uncouple.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Nobody's getting a...
No two-year-old is getting an elective surgery.
unidentified
Even the elective surgery is a surgery.
jordan holmes
I know, but that's...
But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
No one's fucking around with anesthetics.
jordan holmes
Well, nobody who's a square.
dan friesen
Well, I think anybody who is, is dead.
Because they're very difficult.
So, that article, there's a couple conditions that are common in elderly patients who undergo anesthesia called post-operative delirium and post-operative cognitive dysfunction.
The prior is a short-lived condition that will usually pass within days, whereas the latter can linger for a long time.
However, quote, clinical evidence attributing POCD to surgery and anesthesia exposure are inconclusive.
As a long-term follow-up study found only 1% of elderly patients suffer from persistent POCD with preoperative cognitive performance, which is to say mild cognitive decline, possible or probable Alzheimer's disease, that's a better prediction.
Right, right, right.
Anyway, the point is here that there are obviously some people who can be negatively affected by anesthesia, and anyone can be if the surgery is mishandled, but Alex has absolutely no right to say that getting anesthesia causes brain damage every time.
jordan holmes
Nonsense.
Have you ever gone under?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Cool.
It was weird.
jordan holmes
Me too.
dan friesen
I mean, just the waking up part was like, oh.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
It was, yeah.
dan friesen
So also, the sort of surgery Alex is describing, where people are getting a little surgery on their finger to scam pain pills, that doesn't require general anesthetic.
That would 100% just be a localized anesthetic situation where you don't go under.
If I understand the conspiracy here, Alex is saying that these doctors are in on the scam, and they're performing these trivial, pointless finger surgeries to justify their patient's pain pill prescriptions.
If that's the case, there's literally zero chance they would use general anesthetic, which would require someone, you know, they'd need another person there who's specially trained in anesthesiology and they have a ridiculously high liability.
Or are these doctors not in on it?
If that's the case, then most of these doctors would probably do an x-ray or look at the person's medical chart and see all the recent surgeries and probably report them for drug-seeking behavior.
One thing they probably would not do is give, uh, under, they would never give them generalized anesthetic for a finger surgery.
That's insane.
jordan holmes
Has he not learned about the opioid epidemic and how you don't need to get certain?
dan friesen
It's all just fentanyl.
jordan holmes
It's all just fentanyl, man.
One of the biggest issues is so many doctors were just like paid by pharmaceutical companies to just give them away.
You don't even have to pretend to do surgery.
dan friesen
No, you need to go get a fake finger surgery.
jordan holmes
No, don't even bother with it.
Talk to your guy.
He's like prescribing 10 million pills every year.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Finger surgery.
jordan holmes
Okay, good call.
dan friesen
Also, according to a 2008 analysis by the American College of Surgeons, using data from Colorado, Florida, and New Jersey, it was estimated that the average American will receive 9.2 surgeries in their lifetime.
But this number is based on an assumption that a person lives to 85. And obviously there are way more surgeries that will happen in the elderly portion of your life.
Also the range of what counts as a surgery in that study is pretty wide.
So it's kind of silly to even be talking about this.
My point is that Alex is just making shit up about people getting 15 surgeries by the time they're 50. And that anesthesia gives you brain damage.
Like legitimately that was where I was like we are in cuckoo land now.
This makes no sense.
It's barely connected to anything.
That we were talking about.
It made me feel worried.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
And the speed with which he is speaking is disconcerting.
dan friesen
So anyway, anesthesia gives you brain damage.
alex jones
Type in anesthesia causes major brain damage every time.
So just dementia everywhere and the fluoride in the water.
And they got you almost ready.
And now it's going to be yearly coronavirus vaccines.
Oh, and the flu is killing tens of thousands, too, so you've got to have that.
Or you can't fly and can't travel.
And bosses aren't getting employees jobs if they don't concur.
I mean, after corona, things change.
dan friesen
So, I had already read a bunch of articles about anesthesia and brain damage, but I realized after that clip that I didn't Google the exact words, anesthesia causes major brain damage.
So I did that.
And I found an article on the website patient.info, and here's what this says.
Quote, Brain damage as a result of having an anesthetic is so rare that the risk has not been put into numbers.
Alex should stop telling me to look things up.
jordan holmes
The risk has not been put into numbers.
dan friesen
Yep.
Because it's such a small risk.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
That's not good for his narrative.
dan friesen
But it's every time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Alex has heard a story about a surfer getting arrested for surfing on a beat.
jordan holmes
Got him!
dan friesen
And he's mad about it.
alex jones
And they're arresting surfers who by themselves are out a quarter mile off the shore in California, Oregon, and other areas.
The police come and they go out on their jet skis and they put you in handcuffs, but the While you're still serving?
jordan holmes
That'd be cool.
alex jones
I saw an article where in New York they released a guy that had killed his wife and daughter 10 years ago.
Just murdered him.
Tied him up.
Slicked their throats.
He's out.
But boy, if we catch you...
Selling hand sanitizer that you already had.
You're going to jail, bub.
Because it's about the general public being criminals.
Because the criminals are taking over the governments.
jordan holmes
Your guy...
alex jones
And the big media let it.
And they did it all.
And now Trump, everybody else is going along with it?
dan friesen
That's not good.
So I guess price gouging is okay with Alex now.
He's fallen in line with the Mies Institute.
jordan holmes
Totally fine.
dan friesen
So the story that Alex is talking about with that murderer who was released in New York is a bit of a sticky situation.
This is a story about Pedro Vinant Barcia, and the issue is that he's been charged with the murder, but he hasn't been tried or convicted yet, so he doesn't have a sentence.
At the same time, he almost certainly killed his girlfriend.
I don't know about the daughter that Alex is talking about.
That wasn't in the story.
But the New York Post reports, quote, the gruesome attack was captured on surveillance video and witnessed by numerous bystanders, according to court papers.
After cops nabbed him, he allegedly asked, quote, is she dead?
I hope so.
We, as non-state actors, can see this information and say that, yeah, he did that murder.
But it would be a completely different thing for the state to do that without first having a trial.
To treat him as a convicted murderer prior to trial would go against some of the very basic rights that the Constitution Alex professes to love all the time.
Never heard of it.
jordan holmes
Second Amendment.
dan friesen
To make matters slightly more complicated, this dude is 63 years old and, quote, has cardiovascular disease, pulmonary disease, and type 2 diabetes, which basically puts him in real danger zone in terms of being exposed to the virus.
He has a real high likelihood that if he gets it, it could kill him.
And on a certain level, putting him in prison where he could be exposed to it would be tantamount to a death sentence when he has not been to trial.
Obviously, this is messy, but there aren't a lot of options here.
He would have gone to Rikers, where 231 incarcerated persons and 223 staff have tested positive for the virus, according to an April 2nd article in Slate.
He hasn't been tried, so it seems like the only thing the state can do is put him on some kind of a supervised release program or house arrest or something like that.
It's a mess.
But according to the Constitution that Alex loves, he should not be in favor of this.
It would be kind of cruel and unusual.
jordan holmes
Buddy, look, we haven't gone to trial yet, and with this coronavirus going around, we just don't want to put you in record.
So I'm going to have you sit in this chair over here.
Quiet room.
It's all empty.
Well, I mean, yeah, there's straps on it.
And no, don't even worry about that thing that it's hooked up to.
Oh, okay.
So it does look like a Dr. Frankenstein handle.
Don't worry about it.
dan friesen
And it's not like they're letting him free and being like, have fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like it's still a murder trial that he's going to have.
jordan holmes
Hey buddy, what I'd like you to do is leave the state.
You have a good time.
dan friesen
So now the case of that surfer who got arrested was a situation where all the beaches have been closed in Los Angeles County.
So people are essentially trespassing if they go to them.
So this guy in Malibu goes out to surf anyway and he gets arrested.
That seems a little harsh.
Shouldn't he just get a ticket?
Yes.
And he probably would have if he hadn't been a total asshole to the officers who were coming to clear the beach.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
According to an article in the Mercury News, it says that he was out surfing and was, quote, seemingly teasing the cops and lifeguards like he was going to get out of the water, only to spin back out towards the ocean and ride more waves.
jordan holmes
He was doing it like, oh, I'm coming in?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
dan friesen
Apparently.
jordan holmes
Seriously, next time I'm coming in for shit.
Oh, I gotta catch this wave.
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm coming in.
dan friesen
From the article, that's what it appears was going on.
Dick.
jordan holmes
Worth it.
Honestly, I'm going to be honest.
I think that might be worth it.
dan friesen
It's a little trolly.
You're wasting the cops' time.
They have better things to do, most likely.
jordan holmes
I agree.
Come on.
dan friesen
But I'm still sure he just got like a ticket and got released on his own recognizance.
It's not like he's going to prison.
jordan holmes
He's not doing a dime.
dan friesen
Anyway, nonsense.
Nonsense stories.
jordan holmes
You'll never catch me, pigs!
dan friesen
There's this weird tension that Alex is describing wherein he's talking to people a bunch in his daily life who are like, we don't want to shake hands.
But they also know that it's bullshit and everybody should still be doing all the same stuff.
But they are just trying to be like, they just think Alex doesn't want to shake.
It's weird.
Everyone seems to be doing it for each other or something and Alex is confused.
alex jones
Everybody I talk to goes, oh, can't shake your hand.
I go, but you know it's bull.
You know that it's way exaggerated.
They go, yeah, I know.
I just thought maybe you didn't want to shake hands.
So everyone just, we're slaves.
We act like slaves.
We're not land of the free, home of the brave.
jordan holmes
I think that was a bit of a joke.
alex jones
Now they've got the surveillance.
Now they've got the control.
And we've gone along with it, and so they're going to take everything you've got, folks, and they're going to slowly kill you with the coronavirus vaccines.
And coronavirus vaccines have already been developed, and they're going to roll them out after you beg for them.
dan friesen
I think the people are already begging for them.
jordan holmes
I'm begging for them.
dan friesen
I think they would have been out already.
jordan holmes
I would like that.
I'm begging.
dan friesen
If that were the case, if they were like, oh, they're just waiting until you beg for it, I think we're well and good past that point.
If were this the globalists' plan, they have mistimed your stalling.
jordan holmes
The only people who are not begging for a vaccine right now are zealots.
Regardless of religion or political ideology, there's a certain zealotry that goes along with that anti-vax, all of that shit.
dan friesen
I would say so, yeah.
jordan holmes
Of just like, oh, you people are fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this clip is the last one before we get to that.
Amazing report that Rob Dew stayed up late working on.
Like a book report he wasn't ready for.
jordan holmes
Rob Dew's got some work.
Rob Dew's got the stuff.
dan friesen
And this is just all so stupid.
And jarring.
alex jones
Why could they never have a vaccine for the cold?
The coronavirus is the main cold bug.
Because it's always changing.
It's got to be exact.
But they don't care.
Bill Gates wants in your body.
He says there's too many of you.
He says vaccines will reduce your fertility on record.
And he wants in your body, and he'll get in there.
They couldn't abort you and your mommy.
They're going to abort your ass now.
It'll kill you slow.
And the medical system will suck your money out while they do it.
And the taxpayers will pay for liability protection.
But they're talking about giving total liability protection, period, where you can't even get a settlement for vaccine damage.
They're going to kill all of you, and you're going to love it.
Police officers, military, everybody, prepare to die!
The robots are replacing you!
And whatever you do, don't get X3 60% off.
unidentified
Don't get X3 60% off.
alex jones
Don't get X3 60% off.
The real red pill blast will all the vitamins and minerals sink.
Do not!
It will help you!
Only vaccines!
unidentified
Take them!
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
Told you it was jarring.
jordan holmes
That was intense.
dan friesen
That was quite a pivot.
jordan holmes
That was intense and release.
dan friesen
That was impressive.
That's like...
That's Alex playing at top, mid-season form.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, that's the stuff right there.
alex jones
They're gonna kill you!
Bill Gates wants to be in your body!
dan friesen
Whatever you do, don't buy my product!
jordan holmes
That's a man who's played himself into shape.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So about that cold vaccine thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure, sure.
dan friesen
For one, rhinovirus is responsible for most colds, not coronavirus.
The reason there isn't a vaccine for the common cold is because the virus is constantly changing.
It's because there's a bunch of different viruses that cause what we call the cold.
We already talked about this a little bit, but a cold is really just a collection of symptoms, not a specific condition.
And because it can be caused by so many different things, it would be really unwieldy to try and vaccinate against all of them.
The CDC says they, quote, more than 200 viruses can cause a cold, and many of them are from different virus families, so trying to come up with something that would prevent them all would probably be impossible.
Plus, most colds are pretty mild, so the demand for a cold vaccine is pretty low compared to other pressing medical research.
Although there are people who are working on some similar things, and there may be a breakthrough at some point, but it's like...
There are other things that most of the funding goes to.
Alex is just making shit up.
jordan holmes
Basically what he's saying is, see, they haven't cured every disease in the world yet, so obviously it's too complicated or whatever it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, something like that.
jordan holmes
What an idiot.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex goes out to break with that abrasive ad pivot.
jordan holmes
That was great.
dan friesen
And he comes back with Bill Cooper-esque sirens.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
Announcing.
It's time.
jordan holmes
The special report.
alex jones
Your mission is to get the truth out.
This incredible report that you're about to see just went live at band.video and infowars.com.
Your mission is to get this report out.
Here it is.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Should I accept it, though, right?
I don't need to accept it.
dan friesen
I don't need to accept it.
Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
So, here we go.
alex jones
In 2005, the Wachowski brothers produced the archetypal film V for Vendetta.
dan friesen
Bingo list.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's right.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Missed it.
What is unfolding in the year 2020.
unidentified
Imagine a virus, the most terrifying virus you can, and then imagine that you and you alone have the cure.
But if your ultimate goal is power, how best to use such a weapon?
alex jones
A newly elected government seeking power and control develops a secret bioweapon and launches it against its own population to establish authoritarian rule and to blame the attack on their political enemies.
dan friesen
So now V for Vendetta is real.
That's how this report that Rob Dew stayed up all night hallucinating, putting together.
jordan holmes
So we're starting off with a movie, as always.
And it's true.
dan friesen
Bingo.
So Alex talks a little bit more about this, about how there's real-world inspiration.
In Viver Vendetta?
jordan holmes
Then use that.
alex jones
Taking pages right out of the 20th century, we see this fictional dictatorship, not just seeking to dominate and control the population, but to be seen as saviors of the very people that they are dumbing down, enslaving, imprisoning, and killing.
Hashtag from a historical well to work from in just the 20th century With monsters like Hitler Stalin Mao Pol Pot Fidel Castro Hugo Chavez Kim Jong-un Who don't just seek to dominate and control the very lives and thoughts of their minions But who also want to be seen as the savior by the very people who are their son Wait.
dan friesen
So, it is true that the government in V for Vendetta is inspired a bit by some real-world fascist and authoritarian states.
However...
The story is intended to be more specific than that.
V for Vendetta was based on the graphic novel by Alan Moore, who's been pretty clear that he wrote it with a strongly anti-Margaret Thatcher message.
He felt that the government depicted in his book was the logical extension of where British conservative politics were heading.
Also, Alex, if he's so concerned about how the movie is reality...
I certainly am excited for him to get to the part about how the government scapegoats vulnerable populations for the problems in society.
That should be fun.
I hope that's in this special report.
jordan holmes
Dan, it was Chinese people who wrote that part.
dan friesen
Also, a big part of the vibe of the graphic novel is about the national front, the rise of the national front, which incidentally is a group that was associated with the English Defense League, which was founded by Alex's friend Tommy Robinson.
Alex is literally friends with someone who paled around with the inspiration for the villains.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but the villains are always the good guys, Dan.
That's the rule.
dan friesen
Also, this is the report where Alex is supposed to lay out globalist admissions and it's about V for Vendetta.
I really should have expected that.
jordan holmes
Of course it's about V for Vendetta.
dan friesen
That's so stupid.
It's just art imitating life or something.
jordan holmes
Or life imitating art imitating life imitating art.
dan friesen
Who knows?
alex jones
In V for Vendetta.
We truly see art imitating life.
But when you fast forward to the year 2019 and then 2020, it's not the U.S. government that has its fingerprints all over this.
It's the private corporate global government and their testing ground, the communist Chinese super state.
Top scientists from across the world in India and Europe and other areas all came out early on and said, this is clearly a man-made coronavirus.
francis a boyle
This is clearly an offensive biological warfare agent.
dan friesen
That's just Francis Boyle.
jordan holmes
Top scientists around the world.
Play that clip one more time.
Top scientist!
dan friesen
That shit isn't true.
And the clip that he's playing demonstrated is Francis Boyle on his own show.
jordan holmes
A top scientist!
unidentified
A top scientist!
dan friesen
This doesn't prove shit.
jordan holmes
That's a huge get for him, Dad.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
A clip from his own show.
Do you know how much that costs?
dan friesen
Rob had to dig for that one.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
So, anyway, he goes on.
jordan holmes
He probably got it from us.
alex jones
The entire event was carefully choreographed.
Two years ago, the United Nations announces that Disease X will soon arrive and that global government will be needed to counter the international crisis.
And that basic human liberties will have to be permanently erased in the name of global health.
dan friesen
So in March 2018, the World Health Organization did list Disease X on their list of top concerns.
This wasn't them scripting out an eventual release of a bioweapon.
It was an attempt to focus attention on the fact that the next big problem that we will likely face from a public health standpoint was something that was completely unknown to us before it happens.
They weren't saying that we need to give up liberties because of the Disease X. When potential outbreaks are handled correctly, they don't become big outbreaks.
You know, there were multiple cases of Ebola in the United States in 2014, and it didn't spread because appropriate steps were taken to contain it.
That's what the World Health Organization was advocating in the discussion of Disease X, not letting an outbreak get bad and then trying to play catch-up so you can take people's rights away.
It's just all nonsense Alex is imagining.
So, he goes on.
I mean, I'm just playing basically cut...
unidentified
The whole...
dan friesen
Well, not the whole thing.
I cut out little parts where he's just rambling, but whenever there's like a specific piece of information...
I've just taken all of these specifics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, somehow even in his pre-taped segments, he rambles for a while.
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Well, Rob Du ran out of time late at night trying to edit this.
jordan holmes
It's got to be five.
It's got to be full five minutes, damn it.
alex jones
And then, in the fall of 2019, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation holds Event 201, where 65 million people die from a corona-like virus.
And the answer is quarantines, lockdowns, force inoculations, robot drone enforcement, and, of course...
World government.
dan friesen
So Alex is making shit up there about the event 201 to make it better fit his narratives.
The exercise wasn't related to this coronavirus outbreak.
It just happened to use a mock coronavirus as its hypothetical illness because they're easily transmittable and because the world had already seen a SARS and MERS outbreak in the recent past, thereby making this scenario more realistic to the participants who are in it as an exercise.
Alex is making up the recommendations that the exercise arrived at.
There's literally a webpage dedicated to their recommendations, which are as follows.
One, governments, international organizations, and businesses should plan now for how essential corporate capabilities will be utilized during a large-scale pandemic.
jordan holmes
It's a good thing they did that.
dan friesen
Two, industry, national governments, and international organizations should work together to enhance internationally held stockpiles of medical countermeasures to enable rapid and equitable distribution during a severe pandemic.
jordan holmes
Okay, counterpoint.
What they should do is buy up all the medical supplies and then force governors to bid for them and then dole them out as personal favors.
dan friesen
That wasn't on their list.
jordan holmes
That wasn't on their list?
Are you sure?
dan friesen
I'm positive.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Three, countries, international organizations, and global transport companies should work together to maintain...
I don't think that's a good idea.
Travel and trade are essential to the global economy as well as to national and even local economies, and they should be maintained even in the face of a pandemic.
Four, governments should provide more resources and support to the development and urge manufacturing of vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics that will be needed during severe pandemic.
Five, global business should recognize the economic burden of pandemics and fight for stronger preparedness.
Six, international organizations should prioritize reducing economic impacts of epidemics and pandemics.
Seven, governments and the private sector should assign a greater priority to developing methods to combat mis- and disinformation prior to the next pandemic response.
jordan holmes
Man, it's so funny whenever people know what's coming and then it happens all wrong and you're like...
Who could have known?
Who could possibly have ever figured this one out?
dan friesen
Nowhere in their list of recommendations do they have everyone gets locked down.
They don't say we need robot drones or a world government.
They had a panel of experts go through this simulation in order to brainstorm actionable advice that could help better prepare for an epidemic.
And I think the point we're seeing...
As they came up with an alright list.
Alex is just making shit up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, you gotta smear people who kind of predicted where we should have gone and are watching us go the opposite direction.
dan friesen
So anyway, back to this dumb report that Rob did.
alex jones
Boo.
Are you not going to reference the graphic novel?
Certainly the Wachowski brothers produced a vivid and rich film that is a masterpiece.
But they weren't the first people in Hollywood or in popular culture to notice what was going on in official white papers.
jordan holmes
He's based on a graphic novel.
dan friesen
True.
But it's in the white papers.
It's from the white papers, man.
jordan holmes
He's not going to reference that it was based on a graphic novel?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Did he think they made it up and wrote the script themselves?
dan friesen
He does not bring up Alan Moore at all.
But, you know...
He says it's from these white papers, but he's not being specific about any of them.
But that's the kind of work he's doing here.
They see it in white papers officially, so let's see where he goes.
I mean, I need meat here.
alex jones
Where are they getting these ideas?
Well, it turns out it goes back to Malthus, more than 250 years ago in England, who coined the term Malthusianism.
Where the elite believes they should release bio-levels and plagues on the population to reduce their numbers.
But Malthus is not the father of eugenics.
The father of eugenics is Plato, who over 2,000 years ago in his republic wrote about herding the poor into compact cities and releasing plagues upon them.
dan friesen
As far as I can tell, Malthus didn't say that we should release a bioweapon to get rid of people.
He was most closely identified with what's known as the Malthusian catastrophe, a hypothetical event that happens when population growth outpaces the supply of resources.
It was his belief that after that point, people would be in really terrible shape, and so we should avoid it.
He also had a feeling that population was going to be kept in check one way or another.
Either we could do it ourselves with birth control and family planning, or nature would end up doing it with famines and resources.
wars that would come after this hypothetical catastrophe.
A lot of folks are not a fan of Malthus'work, and actually, if Alex is a critic of his, then he'll find himself standing side by side with Karl Marx and all the communists he likes to yell about all the time who also hate Malthus.
unidentified
No!
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Honestly, I could get into the Plato stuff, but I don't think Alex has read it, and it seems stupid to try and even engage with him when he's talking about philosophy.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Not doing it.
dan friesen
All of Plato's Socratic dialogues are written as debates that Socrates is having with some other person.
So if you want to cherry-pick lines as being the point of the text itself, it's really easy to do that.
So, so far, Alex has talked about V for Vendetta, said a bunch of nothing, and then vaguely pointed at Malthus and Play-Doh.
jordan holmes
Do you mean made an airtight case for his point?
dan friesen
Not sure that's how I would describe it.
alex jones
Okay.
unidentified
So where is popular culture getting its cue?
alex jones
Well, from the Club of Rome and public documents they put out in the 1960s calling for global forced depopulation.
And, of course, we have folks like Prince Philip, Prince Charles'father, Queen Elizabeth.
unidentified
husband constantly in interviews saying he wants to come back as a deadly virus reincarnated to humanity in the event that i am reincarnated i would like to return as a deadly virus in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation prince philip reported by deutsche press agent or dpa august 1988 We recently talked about that Prince Philip quote.
dan friesen
He didn't constantly say it.
It was just included in the foreword of a book called If I Were an Animal.
That voiceover you hear reading the quote is from the movie Endgame.
He's just cut that out of Endgame.
And it's actually a misattribution and incorrect quote.
I can find no primary source from the Dutch Press Agentur from 1988, but that book about what you would like to be if you were an animal came out in 1987.
So unless Alex is a primary source on this, I have to assume this is a bad game of telephone, and maybe there was some German press that reported on the forward of that book, and it got mixed up in translation or something, but all of it traces back to the forward of that book.
jordan holmes
Man, you had to do some real work to find that.
dan friesen
Oh yeah.
I can't find Endgame.
jordan holmes
That is a lot of work tonight.
dan friesen
As for the Club of Rome, that specific text Alex is obviously referring to is their publication, The Limits to Growth, which came out not in the 60s, but in 1972.
Alex should know that, because the Club of Rome wasn't founded until 1968, and Limits to Growth was their first release.
They did not put out anything in the 60s.
I've read Limits to Growth, and it doesn't recommend or support forced global depopulation.
It's more of an analysis of how continuing unrestricted growth would be unsustainable past approximately 2070, after which point we're in for a disaster.
The authors have released multiple follow-ups, like the 2004 Limits to Growth 30-year update, and in 2012 they put out 2052, a global forecast for the next 40 years.
None of them say that we should have forced global depopulation, but do recommend people have less children.
It's totally up to you to decide if that's good or bad advice, but it's supremely dishonest to pretend that these texts in some way prove that the authors wanted to depopulate the world.
Their main point was that population growing is self-limiting.
Of its own, it will limit itself.
jordan holmes
Well, we've never seen evidence of that in the wild.
dan friesen
Under the assumption that there are finite resources, population has its own limit.
The goal is not to find a way to kill people off.
It's to find a way to continue some kind of growth that averts the disastrous consequences that they foresee coming from unbridled growth past the point that the resources can't sustain.
jordan holmes
You cannot trust people who spend all of their time analyzing past events and synthesizing current information together in order to create a forecast for what could happen.
Obviously, as we saw with all these Bill and Melinda Gates things, those guys have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.
Listen to those recommendations.
We're not doing any of those things and we're fine.
dan friesen
So far, I would say this report is not going well.
And it continues.
alex jones
You see, Bill Gates and Ted Turner and Warren Buffett and people like Oprah Winfrey, when they meet to discuss depopulation and world government, they're celebrated as wonderful good people.
When Bill Gates talks about getting rid of old people...
Or Newsweek talks about the case for killing Granny.
bill gates
That's called the death panel, and you're not supposed to have that discussion.
alex jones
Well, he's a savior when he puts up equations about reducing the human numbers down to zero to save the Earth.
bill gates
Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero.
unidentified
That's...
Back from high school algebra.
But let's take a look.
alex jones
And he's following the Rockefeller Foundation and Carnegie Endowment plan that's over 120 years old.
dan friesen
Alex has some fucking brass balls complaining about that Newsweek article, The Case for Killing Granny, after he spent considerable time on his own show advocating that people go back to work and risk a ton of death because to not do so would hurt the economy.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
Also, Alex is taking those comments from Bill Gates wildly out of context.
We've discussed it in the past, but those clips that Alex uses there are tiny slivers of Gates making completely different points than what Alex is claiming he is.
Alex knows what he's doing.
He complains about being taken out of context all the time.
Most likely because he knows that's what he does to people all the time.
jordan holmes
If there was a good democratic operative, which there aren't anymore, but it would just be so easy to put side-by-side clips of the idiots now being like, go back to work!
We need the economy to go, look, some old people are going to die.
That's just something that we have to accept, juxtaposed with...
Death panels are going to kill Grandma.
Death panels are going to kill Grandma.
You can't trust Obama.
dan friesen
You could probably find every one of them.
jordan holmes
It would take zero time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And yet somehow we're not doing it.
dan friesen
Also, what is the Rockefeller Foundation Carnegie Endowment Plan?
Alex can't claim that this is a report that proves all this shit and then randomly pull names out of the hat.
He needs to use specifics if he wants this to mean anything, which it does not so far.
Maybe this is what he was talking about?
The Rockefeller Carnegie Endowment Plan?
alex jones
In 2010, the Rockefeller Foundation put out a lengthy white paper that's public, and I suggest you go read it, called Lockstep, and it predicts an authoritarian world government will rise and crush the general public in the name of security and safety.
dan friesen
That is just embarrassing.
jordan holmes
That is embarrassing.
dan friesen
Alex thinks the document is called Lockstep because he's only read little dumb blurbs about it on stupid blogs, so he only knows about one scenario in the report.
That's cringe-level stuff, particularly when he says, I suggest you go read it.
I suggest you read it, Alex.
The report is actually called Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development, and we covered it in depth on a recent episode.
It has nothing to do with the plan to bring in authoritarian rule and crush the public.
That's all just the paranoid delusions that Alex has picked up, most likely from its coverage on Jim Fetzer's blog.
So, great.
So far, not proven anything!
jordan holmes
No, that's not very good, but I was gonna go...
My scary plan is the Kardashian-Cuban watch-out-for-bees plan.
That was Mark Cuban and Kim Kardashian got together and they created a simulation wherein we all get eaten by bees.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
That's one to watch out for.
They're going to implement that real soon.
dan friesen
I believe, as they say, watch that space.
jordan holmes
I think that's coming.
dan friesen
Watch the bees space.
jordan holmes
I think it's coming.
dan friesen
See what else is coming in this stupid report.
alex jones
And now, former British prime ministers and others are openly saying world government, a technocracy, an authoritarian rule of autocrats is the only thing that will keep humanity and our precious old people safe.
But these are the very same individuals saying we should get rid of the old people.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
But you're the one saying they should go back to work so they can die for us!
dan friesen
I don't know.
Alex is getting a lot of mileage out of the phrase former British prime ministers and others when all he's referring to is a comment from a singular former British prime minister, Gordon Brown.
Gordon's not talking so much about calling for world government as he is calling for an emergency international task force to deal with the medical and economic crises that are popping up, largely because they are issues that don't have concern for national boundaries.
These are global problems that could be much more easily solved if you had heavy international cooperation.
If that's world government, I guess fine.
I'll let Alex have that.
But this is pretty weak stuff for him to hang his hat on.
At best, this is a tepid call for world government from a guy who hasn't been Prime Minister in a decade.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
All I'm saying is that nation-states in constant conflict is actually a great idea, Dan.
That's all I'm saying.
dan friesen
All right.
Interesting.
Perhaps.
But in this next clip, Alex continues the report and he uses a quote that he actually gets right.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fun.
dan friesen
But he's still wrong.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
It was Benjamin Franklin that said...
Those that will give up their liberties for security deserve and will get neither.
Meaning, you always get enslaved.
unidentified
When you play like a sheep, wolves come.
alex jones
And if you study who's running this whole pandemic hysteria, it is known eugenicists that publicly say they want to reduce world population to at least 500 million.
dan friesen
So Alex is largely quoting that Benjamin Franklin saying correctly.
However, it's kind of interesting to understand the original context of the quote.
Benjamin Witts, the editor of Lawfare, explained the context in a 2015 interview with NPR like this.
Quote, he was writing about a tax dispute between the Pennsylvania General Assembly and the family of the Pens, the proprietary family of the Pennsylvania colony who ruled it from afar.
And the legislature was trying to tax the Penn family lands to pay for frontier defense during the French and Indian War.
And the Penn family kept instructing the governor to veto.
Franklin felt that this was a great affront to the ability of the legislature to govern, and so he actually meant purchase a little temporary safety, very literally.
The Penn family was trying to give a lump sum of money in exchange for the General Assembly, acknowledging that it didn't have the authority to tax it.
Wits goes on to say, It's fine to use this quotation in the way Alex is.
People do it all the time, and it seems to resonate with people.
They just shouldn't quote Ben Franklin when they do, because he was arguing a completely different position.
And you can really tell from Alex's analysis of the quote.
Like, he derives a completely different meaning from it than Franklin intended, which tells me he's never read the original source material, but just read the quote on some dumb blog, which is basically all he ever does.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Also, that part about reducing population to 500 million is just Alex referencing the Georgia Guidestones, which is sad.
jordan holmes
Hey, come on.
dan friesen
So sad.
jordan holmes
You're so mean.
dan friesen
So sad.
jordan holmes
You're so mean to him.
Just because you referenced the Georgia Guidestones, a 100% reliable thing to reference.
No, I got nothing.
dan friesen
He's so sad.
What else you got?
alex jones
Life is not imitating art in 2020.
The Wachowski brothers and many others, like Chris Carter and the X-Files, were only telegraphing to you what they were experiencing at elite meetings around the world.
Bill Joy, in 1999, one of the co-founders of Sun Microsystems and a major billionaire, warned the world in an article titled, Why the Future Doesn't Need Us, that he'd gone to an elite meeting of top billionaires in Silicon Valley and that they had a consensus agreement to bring in world government and exterminate the majority of the world population.
dan friesen
That is not true based on the article in Wired Magazine by Bill Joy.
That is Alex only reading.
A part of the article where Bill Joy quotes the Unabomber.
That is all that's going on there.
Alex is pretending that the passage from the Unabomber is the point of the article.
It is not.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
Alex just doesn't want to be like, the Unabomber was right.
unidentified
It does make it hard to have a conversation.
jordan holmes
It does make it hard to have a conversation at a party.
Just be like, now let me tell you about where the Unabomber got it right.
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex is misusing that source there.
He has not proven anything.
And a lot of this isn't even like...
It's all about a movie.
Certainly, there is a lot of V for Vendetta in it.
But a lot of it's old shit.
A lot of it's just...
jordan holmes
There was a clip from Endgame.
dan friesen
True.
Of a misattributed, miscited quote.
jordan holmes
Bullshit from then.
dan friesen
So here's how this ends.
And I would say that he has failed.
And Rob Du should get incomplete on this project.
alex jones
Fourteen years ago, I laid out the globalist plan from their own statements and predicted by the year 2020 they would begin executing their depopulation operation.
This is only the beginning to train you to be locked down so in the future when the really deadly bioweapons are released and billions begin dying, you sit there believing governments and corporations are actually your savior and are going to shepherd you and protect you when in truth they're Judas goats leading you into the slaughter.
I'm Alex Jones.
And you have been warned.
It's a powerful video.
It's at man.video.
jordan holmes
That is a powerful video, Dan.
Powerful.
alex jones
You can be proud of that.
Go share it now.
This is critical.
Take action now or they're going to kill everyone.
jordan holmes
Attention, fellow Americans.
dan friesen
Ooh, just missed the break after the special report.
So sad.
jordan holmes
Now, do you know why I know for a fact my Kardashian-Cuban plan is the thing to worry about the most?
Have you seen the B movie?
dan friesen
Wait, the one of the Wicker Man?
jordan holmes
Yeah, do you know who wrote that?
No, the B movie starring Jerry Seinfeld.
dan friesen
No, I haven't seen that.
jordan holmes
No, you haven't seen that?
That was written by the Club of Rome.
They're on the fucking thing.
They know what's going on.
dan friesen
Steve Mnuchin produced it.
I gotta say, I once again am deflated by Alex's incompetence when he tries to prove something.
None of this proves anything.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
It's so bad.
So bad.
jordan holmes
It is a Rob deposition of a video.
dan friesen
Well done, Rob.
You earned your paycheck.
So Alex comes back and he starts picking up on a conspiracy theory that's been going around the internet that's just fucking stupid.
alex jones
And Limbaugh is absolutely right that there are thousands of videos, we started playing them two weeks ago, of just empty hospitals everywhere.
But now more and more people from Alabama to Texas to New York to Wisconsin to Ohio to Idaho to Montana to Colorado to California.
I mean every state.
jordan holmes
I've been everywhere.
alex jones
It's happening.
Everywhere.
They will see on the news, the 6 o 'clock news, that there's long lines.
People are everywhere.
There's people on respirators.
Everyone's dying here at the hospital.
We've been posting videos that are like 30 minutes long, 15 minutes long, an hour long, every day on Bandot Video.
I mean, you can't even watch them all.
And these locals, you go to their YouTube channels, it'll be like a...
Auto parts store, or it'll be like a guy that owns a nursery, or it'll be a lady that is a maid or a cleaning supply.
It's just normal people, or it'll be a retired cop.
I mean, I'm going and checking their channels, and they have stuff with their kids at the beach and parties, and then suddenly it's all this investigative reporting.
And they say, well, I live a mile from this hospital, and they said there's long lines and people dying everywhere, but I noticed they weren't showing a wide shot.
And I've seen other videos.
This is pretty funny.
dan friesen
Alex is a little late to the empty hospitals conspiracy.
Gain some traction online and then places like Fox News days prior to this episode.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Also, it's really funny to remember that Alex declared war on QAnon in the April 1st episode of his show, which is the day before this episode, because a lot of these videos he's claiming to have researched were created by QAnon followers with the hashtag FilmYourHospital.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because they're at war.
You've got to understand your enemy, Dan.
dan friesen
By promoting them.
jordan holmes
Well, of course!
dan friesen
All these videos are shot in front entrances of hospitals which show no real traffic which is supposed to demonstrate that there's no real coronavirus pandemic and these stats are a lie.
What they actually show is pretty decent evidence that things are bad.
Most of the people you would see coming in those entrances to a hospital would be people coming in for minor things or visitors.
So the fact that there's no one milling about is indicative of there not being visitors coming which is right in line with the current situation.
None of these videos show anything that's happening inside the hospitals, and people inside the hospital can't legally release those sorts of images of things that they're seeing because of patient privacy and HIPAA laws.
And honestly, I don't know what these dumb-dumb conspiracy theorists are imagining should be happening outside.
Do they think that if it was a real outbreak, there would just be a couple hospital employees running around screaming for effect?
Like, is that what they would expect?
jordan holmes
I think what they would expect is their...
Because here's the reality of it.
There's no line there, so they're like, oh, if this was a real pandemic, there would be lines down the street of people needing to get treated for it.
And then, of course, if there were lines down the street, they'd be like, see, these people are all paid to look like there's a pandemic going on.
dan friesen
Or it's mass hysteria or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're not going to win.
They want their narrative.
They'll make a video that says anything and show anything.
They fucking don't care.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Fox News host Todd Starnes, he went outside the Brooklyn Hospital Center and made one of these videos.
Like, oh, the front, there's no one there.
But unfortunately, the exact same hospital.
Someone else released video of people loading bodies into an 18-wheeler truck.
Maybe not at the front entrance.
Same hospital.
jordan holmes
Dicks.
I'm amazed that Fox News hosts aren't being spit on regularly.
If you saw that guy, I swear to God, if I see that guy anywhere, I'm going to spit in his face.
dan friesen
Well, not during the outbreak.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
Not during the outbreak.
Wait until everything's calmed down.
jordan holmes
I guess that could be construed as an attempted murder at this point.
dan friesen
I think that might be a little bit way beyond the pale.
All you mean is disrespect.
jordan holmes
They need to be shunned.
Shunned!
Old-timey, like, exile from the land.
Scarlet letter kind of thing.
Yeah.
This needs to be brutal.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about these videos that have come out about, like, these empty hospitals and shit.
And he remembers that he had a guy on who had made a video along these lines, I think in Hawaii.
And he tries to come up with this guy's name.
And when Alex started talking about anesthesia giving you brain damage, that's when I felt like I can't touch the floor anymore.
I'm a little worried.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You had brain damage.
When this clip happened, I was like, oh no.
The pool is 20 feet deep.
I can't tread water.
jordan holmes
And I'm anesthetized.
dan friesen
And I see a shark.
This is where I was like, oh no.
Mic down for this, because this is a fucking freak out.
alex jones
Daria, what's the Jones filmmaker's name?
What's his first name we had on three weeks ago?
Let's look it up, because I want to tell folks about his video, too.
He was the first, and it just chain-reactioned.
His video got over a million views last time I saw it.
Chain-reactioned, and then everybody just starts going out to see what's going on.
E. Michael Jones.
Can we get him back on?
I really want to get him back on.
Thank you.
And let's get him on tomorrow.
dan friesen
Quick fact check, it's not E. Michael Jones.
It's actually a guy named Jason Jones, who's just a guy with a YouTube channel.
That video that Alex is talking about doesn't have a million views.
As of April 5th, it was at about 134,000.
Little difference.
But also, Alex thinks it might be E. Michael Jones, which means he doesn't know who his guests are.
alex jones
Or get him in the war room.
Let's just get him back on.
Because he was just going to be tested.
I thought, well, there's long lines.
I still better go do it, because I feel sick.
And he got there, ladies and gentlemen, and there was no one there.
Now it's a chain reaction.
So let's be clear.
These aren't hospitals open and waiting for the apex, for the paramount, for the top of the mountain, for the peak.
This is across the board.
They're saying it's full.
There are people lined up.
There are people on stretchers, in the hallways.
Cuomo, we have no respirators.
People are dying right now.
They go, hey, there's a stockpile down there.
Well, I don't want to discuss those.
Jason Jones, thanks a lot.
I really want him back on.
I really want him back on.
Steven Jones is the professor that exposed explosives at WTC7.
dan friesen
That's another Jones, a third Jones.
alex jones
And that's why I begged hard.
I want...
Jason Jones back on.
I want Jason Jones back on.
I just want him back on.
So, back to what I was saying.
Back to what I was saying here, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
God, watching this country totally butchered and just how everyone's in a sleep state.
And it's like I'm awake and everybody's like in a sleep state.
It's like it gets worse and worse.
People are mesmerized, ladies and gentlemen.
It's absolutely out of control.
I gotta go to reproach.
I'm not even going to do the show anymore.
Just screw this whole place and screw everybody.
It's gone.
We are a nation of devil-worshipping cowards that have killed 62 million babies and we love it.
And that's why they're making their move on us, because God is removing his protection from the planet.
Period!
dan friesen
So, in the middle of that rant, Alex's earpiece fell out.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
So, the part towards the end there where he's growling and being like, I can't even do the show!
Is when he's trying to subtly put his earpiece back in, but he's really struggling with it.
I'm becoming more certain than ever that he's just getting staged.
He's not getting just like, hey, it's time to go to break through the earpiece.
I think he's being fed lines through there because he's really freaking out when his earpiece falls out.
It's possibly one of the reasons he seems all over the place all the time is because he can't really integrate all the information that's coming to him through his ear.
And he's just like, that's why maybe he skips from topic A to B to C. Because it's...
Because he's getting disjointed information.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
A lot of people think that he, the conspiracy theory that he, that Bill Hicks fakes his own death and now he's Alex Jones.
And what they don't account for is that it was actually Veruca Salt who faked her own death and became Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Did she have an earpiece famously?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
jordan holmes
She wanted things now.
dan friesen
Oh, and she wanted them now.
This is not Samantha Bee's husband from The Daily Show, Jason Jones, that Alex wants now.
I don't usually recommend watching the video of Alex, but this little segment is pretty funny.
Watching him try and fail to put his earpiece back in and just getting angrier and angrier to the point where he's like, everyone, fuck everyone, screw this country.
It's just, you know what it is?
It's a perfect encapsulation of his impotent, angry baby.
Just his soul of an angry baby.
jordan holmes
I didn't get what I want!
Fine, everybody dies.
unidentified
I can't get my hand around my head in order to put my earpiece back in.
jordan holmes
Stop for one fucking second.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
But he doesn't want to draw attention to it.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
That's why he's doing a lot of theatrics.
jordan holmes
It's an unintentional piece of comedy.
That stupid, stupid man.
dan friesen
Yep, such a dork.
So anyway, it deteriorates.
He descends even deeper into anger.
jordan holmes
Right, of course.
alex jones
Because you want death and you want Satanism, you're going to be killed very slowly.
They're going to inject you with vaccines until you and your family are big, bloated, retarded beasts.
And then they're going to kill you and Bill Gates is going to urinate on your grave.
And you still will do nothing.
jordan holmes
Are you going to turn into a giant blueberry?
alex jones
Even though I've told you all of this over and over again.
Even though I've laid every damn bit of it out!
jordan holmes
A golden egg, maybe?
alex jones
See, I'll go up on air like I used to.
I've learned to control myself and channel the energy.
dan friesen
Oh.
alex jones
And I'm gonna do that.
unidentified
It's just, you know...
You want some chocolate, buddy?
alex jones
It's the same problems over and over again.
They're gonna drive me insane.
dan friesen
Grow the fuck up.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
This is absurd.
jordan holmes
That is...
dan friesen
This is so weird.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
I mean, the day before, he's having this breakdown about how everyone likes QAnon more than him.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
He doesn't bring any of that stuff to the next day's episode, but he's clearly still struggling with something.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
This is weird.
dan friesen
This is a sad outburst.
Anyway, America's being destroyed, and Alex is mad about it.
jordan holmes
It's amazing you can get this far while still being a child.
That is kind of an accomplishment in and of itself, to be a nine-year-old trapped in a giant, thick-necked monster.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
I think there's a lot of enablers, probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
So anyway, America's being destroyed, and it is not cute.
Alex is not in control of his anger.
He is still profoundly mad.
alex jones
Everything our ancestors fought for is being murdered and people are wiggling around enjoying it like it's fun and it's cutesy.
unidentified
It's not cute and it's not funny.
alex jones
It is a 100% undebated absolute fact that they have never guessed the right flu virus for the mutation of what the main flu is the next year and it's always a whole bunch of flus, dozens and dozens of them.
And it does nothing to protect you from the next flu if it's not the exact flu!
dan friesen
Alex isn't really being honest there about the flu vaccine.
It is true that oftentimes flu strains pop up in human populations that aren't the ones that are covered by that year's vaccine, but it's pretty ridiculous to say that scientists have never guessed the right strain.
jordan holmes
Never!
dan friesen
This is how an angry child who's afraid to get a shot but doesn't want to admit they're scared of needles acts if they're a little dumber than they think they are.
They can intellectualize their immature response, but the point they're making is childish and stupid.
Obviously, I'm not saying Alex is afraid of needles, but it's the same behavior that's on display here.
So Alex is still really spinning out a bit.
I think he's gotten his earpiece back in now, but he's just...
It's just all over the place.
alex jones
They're telling you they've got a vaccine.
They want you willingly to go take whatever it is that's going to be in there.
And when major German, Italian and other firms have gotten things like H1N1 vaccine and scanned it, they go, this is super, this is like 10 years ago, super advanced bioengineered thing with a whole bunch of stuff added onto it.
And then they were SWAT teamed, was in the news by the Italian government because they The manufacturer of the vaccine and the who said, that's patented.
You're not allowed to scan what we put in there.
Trojan horses.
dan friesen
This story that Alex is talking about is about two anti-vax folks from Italy named Antoinette Gatti and Stefano Montanari.
In 2017, they released a paper called New Quality Control Investigations on Vaccines: Micro and Nano Contamination.
This paper was released on a non-peer-reviewed website and no one has in any way confirmed their findings, which according to a few analyses of it that I found were not even scary to begin with and are a little dubious, and some of the metals they claimed that they found in vaccines could easily have been found due to methodological errors that led to themselves being the Almost certainly.
I can't find any reliable sources of their offices being raided, but I can find a ton of blogs claiming without evidence that that did happen.
Alex has no idea what the actual story is here.
He's just seen articles about them on dumb anti-vax blogs he skims headlines on.
That's all that's going on here.
jordan holmes
I feel like I could have, like, if when I was nine and my parents were like, we're having spinach tonight, you've got to eat vegetables.
I was instead of being like, I don't want to eat spinach.
I was like...
Actually, did you know that the government is using spinach to get inside your body to give you an abortion on top of the abortion that you already had?
That's me, and I was born, and that's why we're all spinach eaters!
dan friesen
Did you hear about the Slovakian scientists who proved that spinach is a mind-control weapon?
And then the Slovakian secret police had them thrown in the huskow, and yeah.
jordan holmes
And then, because my parents were birchers, they were like, that actually makes a lot of sense.
We need to get you out in public.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has turned heel on the audience, you know, saying, like, fuck it.
Fuck all this.
I can't do the show.
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Also, by the way, Trump is working with Bill Gates.
And that is not really discussed.
dan friesen
It does fall by the wayside, for sure.
But Alex goes out to break after this, like, weird, just fucking fall into anger by just, like, I think he's yelling at his audience that they're all going to burn in hell.
alex jones
Everything they give you is for another thing, to control you.
It's not so you can sit there and jerk off the porn or sit there and, you know, play Tetris.
It's to watch you and fry you and surveil you and in the future be your jail guard to tell you when you can go outside, how much food you can have, what profession you have, whether you can have children or not.
unidentified
And you all want to die and you're going to get tortured to death like those babies.
alex jones
God is...
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That was a bit much.
jordan holmes
I do enjoy being left with a positive message.
dan friesen
That was a bit much.
So Alex realizes that like, I think someone gave him a talking to during the commercial that was like, you just yelled at your own audience.
That they're going to burn in hell.
I know you do that a lot when you say it towards the globalists or something.
This was a kind of real dick thing.
I think your audience might be weird about that, so Alex comes back and has a clarification.
alex jones
You know, we deserve everything that's about to happen to us.
But our children don't.
They haven't sold out to Satan yet.
They haven't acted like coward jellyfish.
By the way, I wasn't mad at the crew earlier, and I wasn't even mad at the listeners when I'm saying you're all going to burn in hell.
unidentified
This is a nice and killing bitch.
I love this.
jordan holmes
I love that kind of apology.
I love that kind of...
Listen, I wasn't mad at you when I told you specifically you were going to burn out.
dan friesen
That I hate you, you're a piece of shit, you're eternally tormented.
jordan holmes
That wasn't about you.
dan friesen
That was just me being mad at people who rejoice in getting abortions.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Okay, now I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to be threatening when I said I would kill you personally and stomp on your guts.
That wasn't meant to be a threat, Dan.
dan friesen
No, but also...
Also, the idea that, like, I mean, I don't know what the reality is, but if he is just mad at people who rejoice in an abortion and that is causing him to yell at his audience, they're all going to burn in hell and all this, and we deserve what's coming, I would suggest that maybe when Alex says that he paid for a bunch of abortions when he was younger and he's repented and made peace with that, maybe that process is not complete.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It stopped with him.
He was the last person who could make peace with that.
dan friesen
God only forgave them.
I'm saying that maybe he is not okay with all this.
Maybe some of what we're seeing manifesting is unresolved issues surrounding that.
Maybe he needs to take a look at this a little closer because he seems to be...
jordan holmes
To paraphrase you, I'm glad you're starting to get that we're dealing with a lot of his unresolved issues here.
I think it's nice of you to get that.
dan friesen
I think some of them are becoming far more overt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is bad.
dan friesen
So Alex claims that in the beginning of this clip that...
He has played a bunch of clips of women rejoicing in abortion.
He has not played these clips.
As best as I've seen, there are things he's misrepresenting and people trolling him.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Get a Sarah Silverman joke in there.
Why not?
Throw it in there.
dan friesen
But then, at the end of this clip, he gets into the Andrew Cuomo nipple ring controversy.
jordan holmes
Ah, now that's what I was wondering what his take was going to be on.
alex jones
I mean, I remember just four months ago when suddenly on all the comedy major shows and all over the news and all the big feminist groups were like, I love killing babies.
I had a baby girl in me and I like to get pregnant.
And then I've done this three times with my boyfriend.
We like to have sex while I'm pregnant.
We like to think about the baby.
Oh, she's a little girl.
That's a little boy.
And then I go in there and I've got such power.
They chop that little piece of trash up.
And I feel like God when I'm killing that baby.
I mean, I've played those clips.
You want me to play them again?
dan friesen
I don't know that again.
Yeah, play him.
alex jones
It's just the weirdness of Cuomo.
He's like this crazy dictator.
He's got weird nipple stud rings.
And I'm not attacking people that got nipple stud rings.
But, you know, when dude's got it, I mean, you know, it means they're...
jordan holmes
You don't care.
alex jones
And then that means they could just blackmail him.
Of course he's blackmailed.
I mean, these people are crazy.
dan friesen
Okay, so if you're a man, you have nipple rings.
It means you're gay.
And also, if you're gay, it means you're blackmailed.
jordan holmes
In 2020, you cannot be an out gay politician.
This is obvious, Dan.
dan friesen
I mean, I'm sure there are some issues that come with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you're a Republican.
dan friesen
I don't think it's unique there.
I'm sure that some people...
unidentified
I know.
dan friesen
I bet that there are some...
I mean, not in terms of blackmail, but there are some social stigmas that people probably feel about their...
Their sexuality and public and private life.
I don't think that we're as evolved a society as we like to imagine sometimes, but to the point where it's like the 50s, where it's like, if you are a hypothetically gay person, you must be blackmailed.
That's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
That is a sign of something bad in Alex's brain.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, he never grew past McCarthy.
That's basically it, I guess.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, I know that Alex has always talked about how, like, you know, the globalists have an exterminationist plan and he's against it.
But it seems like he kind of thinks we deserve it now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Interesting.
alex jones
I don't know, man.
I just can't join Satan.
I've been around these globalists and they're so creepy and so unhappy and the fact is so bad and so empty and so dark that I couldn't join them.
But I do get that they trick the general public to be evil and accept abortion and devil worship.
And so the public kind of does deserve to be exterminated.
The Bibleists are playing God, though.
They want to carry out the operation of God.
They're the ones that help people be evil, grease the skids, incentivize it, run the whole thing, but then they want to play God, too, at the same time, and then exterminate everybody.
dan friesen
It seems like Alex's problem is that he wants to run the extermination.
jordan holmes
Look, yeah, I guess we should be exterminating people because they have it coming.
Where do I go from there?
dan friesen
I just don't like that the globalists are playing God.
We should exterminate the people who have gone along with the globalists.
jordan holmes
God should exterminate the people!
dan friesen
And we know that Alex believes that he and his followers...
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
Yeah, they are an arm of God.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
So anyway, the globalists are going to fail.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But...
Before that, they're going, God's going to let them kill half the planet or something?
jordan holmes
Sure, why not?
alex jones
Their system will fail.
They'll never get their life extension technology the way they want it.
It's never going to work right.
They'll say it works.
It'll be a fraud and AI facsimile of who they were.
It won't be them.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Their new world order is going down.
But God is going to allow it to come into fruition to kill, like Revelation says.
Close to half the world population.
So, hey, all of you that think social distancing and doing what they say and taking their inoculations to keep you safe, good.
Take them.
You take the shots?
Hell, give me your kids.
Kill your kids too.
Kill them slow.
You're scum.
Your kids are probably scum too.
dan friesen
Jesus.
alex jones
I'm going to kind of get in the middle, I guess.
I'm going to be a globalist.
But I'm going to start saying, hey, you want to kill yourselves?
You go do it.
Oh, don't try to make me take your shots.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
You just don't get this from other radio shows.
dan friesen
Alex is taking a real villainous turn.
He was already a villain, but there's a real really getting into his dark side here.
This is so sad.
jordan holmes
You just don't get this other places.
No.
dan friesen
I think that's because...
jordan holmes
I'm struggling to feel like this is real.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
I told you beforehand, like, this is a fucked up episode.
jordan holmes
This is wild!
dan friesen
But one of the reasons that this doesn't happen on other shows is because other people have bosses.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
These kinds of just...
These behaviors are so unprofessional on a level that, like, no matter what you're doing, if you're, like...
If you have a job that's not running a show where you lie for a living...
And you act like this.
You're fired.
jordan holmes
You're gone.
unidentified
There's some sort of consequence for your actions.
jordan holmes
He's only been rewarded for the worst behavior his entire life.
dan friesen
And so it reinforces these things.
He can get away with whatever he wants.
I'm sure most of his staff is terrified to respond to these sorts of things.
jordan holmes
And then when you don't get what you want, you throw a tantrum like a little titty baby.
dan friesen
Or if your earplug falls out of your head.
jordan holmes
I want him on!
I want him on!
I want it now!
dan friesen
Go ahead and kill your kids, you fucking assholes.
We all deserve to be exterminated.
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex, there's a message for the BuzzFeed people out there.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
When they're dying, he wants them to know, I told you this was going to happen.
alex jones
You think this is all funny?
Well, let me tell all the BuzzFeed New York Times folks out there.
They get their plan.
The forced inoculation start.
Most of you in 10 years are going to die of cancer.
But not before they cut your ass up and feed you bug poison and radiate your ass and take every damn dime out of you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for sure.
alex jones
Remember when you're dying, you're taking your last breaths.
You remember Alex Jones warned you.
You understand?
Because that's how God works.
He sends people to warn your ass first.
dan friesen
So out to break, Alex declares himself a prophet of God.
jordan holmes
God sent Alex Jones to warn us.
dan friesen
That's not good.
jordan holmes
Man, God is really striking out these days.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you know, God does choose the lowest among us.
By my definition, Alex is about as low as he can.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it doesn't get much lower than that.
Yeah, there are very few.
dan friesen
So earlier...
Alex said that everyone's going to burn in hell, and he came back from break.
jordan holmes
Sorry about that.
Wasn't talking about you.
dan friesen
He continued to then spiral deeper.
jordan holmes
You should kill your kids.
dan friesen
And we all deserve to be exterminated.
jordan holmes
And we all deserve to be exterminated.
dan friesen
And Alex comes back from break, and he has another little bit.
jordan holmes
He has to apologize again?
dan friesen
A little bit.
alex jones
I overheated earlier.
That's an old Alex Jones trait to blow up.
It was 100% real.
And it's because I have been really upset about what's going on, because...
It's all a formula.
It's all a program.
It's all an operation.
dan friesen
You just can't control his emotions.
It's just profoundly sad.
This is just an embarrassment to watch.
At a certain point, I like looking into things like that Rockefeller report.
That lockstep thing.
I like looking into that.
I can enjoy that.
There's a part of me that feels a little bit dirty listening to this and making fun of it.
There's a part of me that feels like This is so sad.
It's funny on one level, Alex being this like, fucking everyone deserves to be exterminated.
But the behaviors are so, like a child lashing out, that it almost doesn't feel good.
jordan holmes
No, no, it's like...
It feels a little bit like maliciously laughing at a three-year-old for not knowing how to string sentences together where you're like, ha ha, you're so fucking stupid, you three-year-old.
Yeah, but at the same time, the three-year-old is actively trying to get the hundreds of thousands of people who listen to him killed.
dan friesen
True, but at the same time, too, you know, acting like...
Somehow so far above however he's operating is also a little bit condescending on my part.
I don't want to infantilize him to the point where it's like, this is a child, but these behaviors are fucking childish as shit.
It's a difficult, weird thing.
jordan holmes
I mean, this is somebody who should be receiving a large amount of help right now from medical professionals, and he's not getting any of it.
dan friesen
He certainly could afford it.
He bought a tank.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you would think so.
dan friesen
So anyway, we're done with his emotional outburst for now.
And Alex gets into, like, he just starts hitting, like, buckshot.
Like, some of this stuff does not connect to each other.
It does not make sense.
A lot of it's non-sequitry, and a lot of it is wrong.
alex jones
Let me introduce a couple terms to you here that are key, and then I'll get to the news.
jordan holmes
Buildings, Roman.
alex jones
We have BC, before Christ.
Okay.
After death.
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
What?
The common era.
alex jones
And before the Common Era, that's the modernist thing to get rid of Christ.
dan friesen
So BC does mean before Christ, but AD does not mean after death.
Exactly.
Which is Latin for in the year of our Lord.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is a common mistake that idiots make and would tend to imply that there's like 33 years when Jesus was alive that didn't get numbered.
jordan holmes
Didn't count.
dan friesen
Very weird.
Yeah.
It's great, you know, if you want to demark time based on your religious beliefs, but if we're all going to share the common reality that this is the year 2020, baby, there's no reason to not secularize it a little bit.
So, Common Era and Before Common Era are completely acceptable compromises, unless what you're angling for is a strictly religiously based society.
This is one of the little clues that might be what Alex is into.
jordan holmes
That is so funny to me, in the context of how awful he is about the year zero.
For him to actually be like, no, it's actually 1974 right now, okay, idiots?
That's because we didn't count the 33 years or 1990, whatever it is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's so funny.
dan friesen
What an idiot.
Here's another thing that sounds completely unrelated, because it is.
alex jones
By the way, you know in Travis County, 60% of births are cesarean section?
Made popular by the surgery on Cleopatra?
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
Just basic stuff.
dan friesen
So, it's interesting to know history.
According to all the data I can find, this is absolutely a made-up stat about 60% of births in Travis County being C-sections.
According to the 2017 Healthy Texas Babies Data Book released by the Texas Department of State Health Services, quote, in 2016, 34.4% of all Texas deliveries were delivered by a cesarean section.
That number is actually slightly lower than it was in the years 2009 through 2015, but right around the same level it was in 2008.
This report doesn't have a full breakdown by county every year, but it does include figures from 2015 putting the early non-medically indicated elective cesarean section rate in Austin at 21.3% or lower.
A 2019 article on the U.S. News and World Report had a county-by-county list of counties with the highest percentage of C-sections based on CDC data.
The highest was Rapids Parish, Louisiana, with 47.3%.
So there's no way, I believe Alex's stat, that he is absolutely just making up.
According to their data, Travis County was at number 176 on that list, with 32.8%.
The stuff that Alex is saying about Cleopatra is even stupider.
He's not even getting his fake history right.
There's a legend about the birth of Gaius Julius Caesar that held that he was cut out of his mother who had died while she was pregnant with him, but his mother wasn't Cleopatra.
She was Aurelia, but this legend isn't true, mostly proven by the fact that Caesar's mother survived his birth and exists in the historical record.
In reality, the name is most likely derived from the same Latin word that Caesar seems related to.
jordan holmes
Caesura.
dan friesen
Cadare.
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
Which translates to to cut.
There are some other theories, but what no one really takes seriously is the idea that it's actually named what it is because it became popular after Caesar or Cleopatra or whatever.
But by all means, Alex, it is fun to have a little history.
Fun to know a little history.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, that was the first thing, because I don't remember Cleopatra dying in childbirth, and if I remember the history of the C-section, though, is one of the pioneers of the C-section that first successfully the mother and the child lived was actually a woman who was raised as a man.
in order to go to medical school because women weren't allowed to go to medical school.
So at the age of six, she was raised as a man, became a professional doctor, and...
Interesting.
I don't know this story at all.
Very fascinating.
dan friesen
I have not looked into this.
jordan holmes
Check into it.
dan friesen
You could be making this up.
I could be making it up.
jordan holmes
This is from The Book of the Dead, which was written by the fantastic QI folks.
dan friesen
I'll have to look into this.
jordan holmes
British.
Stephen Fry was host for a long time.
It's a great show.
dan friesen
So anyway, everyone's getting C-sections now, and soon, vaginal birth is going to be outlawed, right?
That's Alex's prediction.
This clip ends weirdly.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I predicted 20 years ago that one day, Do they?
Now that's happened.
There's moves to make, by the whole medical tyranny, to make vaginal birth prohibited.
And they always want to keep the baby away for a day so the mother doesn't ever produce milk to get them on that formula.
You get about a third smaller brain, but an IQ 30 points lower.
And the fluoride just does its trick.
unidentified
Yeah.
Not me.
alex jones
I walked up to my mom in Target when I was 18 months old.
Oh, God.
Tid it!
jordan holmes
I was 18 months old!
What fucking story is that?
unidentified
I tugged on her skirt and I said, Mama, did it!
jordan holmes
So he's breastfed for a year and a half?
dan friesen
I guess.
I don't know.
Look, whatever the reality is, that makes me incapable of looking into any other nonsense you're saying in there.
So he goes on.
The story goes on, but I knew I had to take a break there for a minute.
alex jones
I walked with my mom in Target when I was 18 months old.
I tugged on her skirt and I said, mama, did he?
And then she said, no, no, no.
When we hit the car and I kicked her in the leg, which I never did.
I was a nice little boy.
And she said, that's it.
You're weaned.
But see that big brain, that big head, those big bones from the milk my mother produced.
But see, soon it'll be a conspiracy theory that women's breasts ever even were for milk.
dan friesen
I'm not joking.
We'll see.
jordan holmes
This is some Game of Thrones shit.
He's tossing people out of the fucking spire.
Like, what is this dude doing?
dan friesen
He kicked his mom.
Wow.
jordan holmes
I'm 18 months old.
Teddy.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex gets into talking about how Texas is going to go into the quarantine situation soon.
And he says something about Trump that I think is pretty disqualifying.
alex jones
And here it's the same thing.
Texas is like, we're not going to do that.
Even though they had projections of 200,000, we're going to die two weeks ago.
Now it's the same projections, but well, I guess we better.
Because it's the corporate pressure and Trump's getting the praise.
He's never gotten from the media suddenly.
jordan holmes
We're doing a good thing.
alex jones
We are the problem because we're buying into the fear and going along with it.
That's why the politicians follow where the people go when we take action, why they can't get our guns, because we say no.
dan friesen
This is a sad level of blaming yourself for Trump.
That's ridiculous.
Also, I would say that if Trump is going along with this because the media is praising him, that's...
Evidence that he's a terrible leader.
If he's so desperate for the media to give him a round of applause, that means that you can't trust him to make a good decision.
That's real bad.
jordan holmes
That means he's a coward who is easily manipulated by praise.
Might be somebody who is incredibly stupid as well.
dan friesen
Maybe someone like Alex.
jordan holmes
Maybe a psychopath as well.
Somebody like that.
Somebody who's willing to sacrifice lives in order to feel slightly better about themselves.
dan friesen
Alex might relate to that a little bit.
And as much as he is constantly fooled by Steve Pachanek by his flattery of Alex.
jordan holmes
Do you mean the first person to ever cure the coronavirus?
dan friesen
Yeah, with antibiotics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex reads a headline that I'm almost certain he didn't mean to read.
alex jones
Coronavirus is now the third leading cause of death in the United States.
Now the flu usually is one of the top ones every year.
dan friesen
So that's not true, and it's also really dishonest.
For one, we're only in early April here.
This year is not even close to over, so using the number of deaths we've seen now to compare to a whole year's data is intrinsically dishonest.
You'd only do that if you're a liar and trying to minimize some piece of really bad information that you wish you hadn't just accidentally said on air.
Also, the flu isn't really a top cause of death in the United States.
Even if you accept the 60,000 a year estimate, that's still far below the approximately 650,000 deaths from heart disease or 600,000 from cancer, the 170,000 from accidents.
This is just absolutely shitty work from Alex, and I'm positive he just was cold reading that.
I had no idea it was about to come out of his mouth.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So now Alex reads another headline that's a bit of a problem for him.
alex jones
Even though U.S. intelligence report concludes China concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak, that's now official.
We told you that nine weeks ago.
dan friesen
So it is true that originally Alex was yelling about the Chinese government, lying about the virus numbers.
That's fair.
He was basing that on literally nothing other than his hatred of China, but he's right that he was saying those things.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
However, more recently, he completely changed that story, as evidenced by this clip from March 24th.
alex jones
So China took a real outbreak and some real problems, told their people, go ahead and videotape it, put it on the internet.
They normally don't have any freedom to do that.
You get locked up for that.
And so they all did what GCP and the party said.
The party controls everything.
They put the word out, hype this up, hype the numbers up, hype the death numbers up.
That's now Wall Street Journal admits China lied about the numbers, said they were much higher to get the maximum fear.
dan friesen
Alex was in the middle of trying to minimize the virus at March 24th at that point, and he was on the party line of saying that everyone had to go back to work.
So he was invested in pretending that the Chinese had inflated the numbers so Trump would take it seriously while the Chinese went back to work or something.
Now the narrative has shifted again, so Alex was pretending he was never reporting that the Wall Street Journal had admitted China actually inflated their numbers.
Now they're underreported.
Nothing Alex says means anything.
He's just making shit up as he goes along to suit whatever the party demands him support.
And that's fine, I guess.
That's what authoritarian propagandists do.
They prey on their audience and how willing they are to go along with constantly changing, self-contradictory narratives.
Now, what would be really abusive would be if Alex immediately after making this claim that directly contradicts something he reported as fact about a week ago went on a rant about how the globalists don't want you to have a memory.
alex jones
You know, I get nasty, I get negative, because I see a lot of compliance in people thinking it's virtuous.
It's not virtuous.
The Chinese rolling over to evil is not virtuous.
The Chi-Coms using it to clamp down on Taiwan is not virtuous.
The Chi-Coms lying about it, incubating it, and the Democrats saying bring it in is not virtuous.
When Trump said block the Chinese flights and the federal judges tried to block it for several weeks, that wasn't virtuous.
But what's really not virtuous is that people don't cultivate a memory to remember what just happened a month ago.
dan friesen
That's abusive.
That's hard.
jordan holmes
This is what I'm talking about, shunning.
This is shunning.
This is like everybody, if you see Alex Jones outside, you should say calmly and quietly, Alex is a very bad person.
Say to his face, you are a bad human being.
dan friesen
Yeah, the calmly part is good, but he'd still imagine you're a demon with a bah face.
jordan holmes
Okay, well then make a bah face too.
That'll be great.
That'll be fun.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to break and he comes back and he has found a video on Twitter that Rob Doe or someone has told him about.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
alex jones
Well, they just took me in their studio and they said, you think this is real?
And I watched it.
unidentified
And I said, you bet your ass it's real.
One hundred percent.
alex jones
Because I've worked in medical areas.
I've seen it.
I know people behave.
jordan holmes
When?
alex jones
And I knew this was all coming and it's here.
Forced coronavirus test.
Taking blood.
The old test.
Holding him down.
Sticking a needle in him.
This is on Twitter.
We're gonna premiere it right here, right now.
Here it is.
dan friesen
This is bad reporting procedure.
Like, he's found a video on Twitter that may or may not be real.
There might be other circumstances that you have no idea about with this person.
I don't know who this person is.
I don't know what the circumstances are.
I'm not gonna get into it.
Alex is reporting it as, like, all things being equal, no other surrounding context.
People are now being held down and forced to have their blood drawn for coronavirus tests.
Which is not really good.
It's not good work.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But he's pushing it.
He's got to push it because it works.
jordan holmes
Fits the line right now.
dan friesen
Exactly.
alex jones
We've got footage of them grabbing people and forcibly taking blood in the U.S. It's confirmed real.
dan friesen
Confirmed real.
alex jones
We're going to hear that next second.
I just canceled Griffin because this is too important.
He's excellent, but this is too important.
dan friesen
Sorry, G. Edward.
alex jones
I got this new info.
Rob walked in here.
And this morning, I saw this two days ago and didn't even make the point on air, even though I meant to.
See, I'm really mad at myself right now.
That's why I've got to go to a special report or something.
It's not that I don't know enough, I know too much.
People don't understand, I don't just say stuff.
I have thousands of data points coming in right now, okay?
I mean, just total proof of all this.
dan friesen
So he's got this video from Twitter that he's now reporting as real, and Rob Dew has given him some other pieces of information that he knew days ago, but he's mad because he hasn't done it or covered it or anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they just found out about it.
dan friesen
But he has too much data.
jordan holmes
Too much.
dan friesen
So he's got to go to a special report, and he gets to what the news is.
It involves some fake crying, and the story that, when I said, cost his belly earlier.
This would be that.
Legitimately, there's no conclusion to this other than go to war with China, which is not an ideal outcome.
alex jones
Actually, it's been in the news for a week that the Chinese on purpose shipped contaminated masks and test kits to give people the virus.
It's totally confirmed.
They did a concerted effort from six major cities.
They sent testing kits into Italy.
They sent them here.
And they're sending in masks, used masks that the left in blue cities are delivering to people to spread it.
And here's why I'm sick.
I as a man, we're entering a wheelhouse where you can't just sit around and talk about this on air.
dan friesen
Exactly.
alex jones
And if Trump and the FBI doesn't move against the people doing this, then what are we going to do?
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
Your rhetoric is becoming a problem.
The escalation has gotten to a point where it's like, what the fuck are you going to do, Alex?
jordan holmes
You just said that China released a worldwide attack.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
unidentified
So what is the...
jordan holmes
Well, I guess we should...
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
So here's one of the reasons I don't trust this reporting.
Alex is going off a story on National File, and here's one line from the article.
Quote, the United Kingdom reported of COVID-19 testing kits sent from China found to be contaminated with the coronavirus when they were being surveyed by a Luxembourg-based company.
That line hot links to a story on MSN News, but if you read that story, nowhere in it does it say that these kits were being sent from China.
It says that the kits were bound for the United Kingdom, and they were from a manufacturer in Luxembourg.
But if this source is what they're using for their claim that they're from China, that's absolutely fabricated from this source.
It's not in the article, and based on the reading of the actual article, it seems like this was more of a lab error, not an intentional contamination.
I've read a bunch of other articles about this, and none say the kits were from China or that China was involved at all.
This is a pure fabrication, it appears to me, on the part of National File.
Because they don't have another source that substantiates this.
It's just added into the narrative.
jordan holmes
That's murder.
That's just trying to get people to kill people.
dan friesen
It could be argued that.
Now, the other thing, too, is that they're also mixing in a bunch of stories of defective masks that China did send to Spain.
And that's less an issue of them being contaminated from the articles that I was reading and more of them just not being well produced.
And that could be a function of their manufacturing not being up to snuff.
jordan holmes
I'm more furious because two weeks from now...
Alex is going to be saying that we need to hold people down to draw their blood in order to test them for COVID, and that America released this to attack China back.
dan friesen
Who knows, man?
jordan holmes
I'm running out of giving a shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has found this story about the tainted tests, and he is really getting wild with it towards the end of this episode.
alex jones
But when I got this new info, and I said to Rob, let me guess who's behind it.
The latest company on record contaminating people in England with the test.
The prick you on the finger, it's got it in it.
That's in the news.
dan friesen
I wonder if Alex's audience ever gets suspicious that he never gives specific details about anything.
Are they wondering when he says that why he doesn't use the company's name?
Do they think that maybe it's because he might get sued if he did?
jordan holmes
No.
They do not think that.
dan friesen
The only company in that article is Eurofins, the Luxembourg manufacturer, and I don't know if Bill Gates is involved with them.
I'd love for Alex to try and explain that connection, and we'll see if he does.
jordan holmes
Wait, hold on a second.
Do you realize that a few episodes ago I said that it was Luxembourg's fault?
dan friesen
Oh yeah, maybe you did.
I don't know.
Maybe we're wizards.
jordan holmes
This is wild.
This is evil.
dan friesen
So, when you were saying that this is like murder...
You know, the trend of Alex blaming Chinese people as opposed to, you know, having certainly some reservations or suspicions about mishandling by the Chinese government.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The difference is becoming a real problem.
In this next clip, Alex is really fucked up, man.
alex jones
It's this obvious.
They rig it, they prepare it, they do it, and then, oh, they're our saviors.
They're shipping in tests and masks.
It's not China anymore.
They're saving us.
And Chinese flee U.S. All these Chinese that came here to bring it, to incubate it.
jordan holmes
What did you just say?
alex jones
And now there's Chinese all over the Internet celebrating how they did this to us.
Ah, America, literally, America is finished.
unidentified
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
alex jones
What is this footage?
This is just so much.
It's information overload.
dan friesen
You're doing a bad job.
Real bad job.
jordan holmes
Fucked.
dan friesen
Real bad job, Alex.
jordan holmes
Chinese people that came over to give it to us.
dan friesen
Be suspicious.
jordan holmes
You're saying that...
You don't know which Chinese people gave it to us, but you do know that some Chinese people gave it to us.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, the last time someone on Infowars made a specific accusation about a Chinese-American, Roger Stone got sued for $100 million.
So I think Alex knows better than to be specific.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So Alex can't handle all this, so he goes to a special report before trying to...
Really?
Do a good job?
And he doesn't.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to air a special report that's very important.
Because during that break, I was unable to get all the articles together I need.
Nobody's fault.
But when I cover this next segment, I'm going to be calm.
I'm going to be focused.
I'm going to go in my office, get these articles, say a little prayer.
And then I'm going to come out here and present this.
It all just came together.
And we already knew all this.
But red-handed in every country...
The Chinese sent testing kits contaminated with coronavirus on purpose.
And we caught other companies admitted now that aren't from China, funded by Bill and Melinda Gates, doing the same thing.
dan friesen
So Bill and Melinda Gates and China are in cahoots with infecting the globe, apparently.
And Alex has got to go say a little prayer and get some headlines together.
And now, Jordan...
We have a second instance on this episode of Alex saying he's going to prepare and try and prove something.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
So here we go.
Strap it in.
Let's go again.
jordan holmes
You know, the thought that I just had was that one of the big problems with not having universal health care and guaranteed jobs and basic income and shit is because if you are a person with a conscience and you worked at InfoWars or Fox News or any of those places, you have to think that I gotta stop working here.
It's immoral.
It is officially immoral.
dan friesen
I mean, it was a while ago, but now it's gotta be a crisis now.
jordan holmes
By virtue of going to work, you are contributing to deaths that are unnecessary.
Probably.
So, if they had income or healthcare, I would imagine that people with a conscience would stop fucking working there.
dan friesen
Yeah, and, you know, like, I don't know, from that Josh Owens article about his time working there, he had, you know, there was the feeling of, I'd be unemployable anywhere else.
So, I mean, like, there's also just, I mean, that's kind of puzzled in with that.
That fear of leaving.
jordan holmes
They're trapped.
dan friesen
That fear of leaving probably does keep a lot of people there.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I would assume so.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex tries now, he comes back from his special report, and he decides he's going to really break this down.
And here...
I have just cut out the specific instances of him trying to prove the narrative that China intentionally sent contaminated tests to infect the world.
alex jones
Okay.
unidentified
Dr. McCam, shot, please.
alex jones
Axios.
unidentified
Scoop.
alex jones
Lab for coronavirus.
Test kits may have been contaminated.
dan friesen
So this article is from about a month ago, and it has nothing to do with China.
This is about a lab in the United States that had some contamination issues.
It's not even necessarily indicated from the article that it has anything to do with tests being contaminated.
So here, the next one is kind of a non sequitur.
alex jones
Just one place.
Here's another one.
Los Angeles mayor says all residents should wear masks.
Now it's going to be fines.
Texas town just passed a law.
Continuing, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
That doesn't have anything to do with the...
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So we get to this next headline.
alex jones
China gave faulty contaminated COVID-19 equipment to several countries from NationalFile.com that links to AP Reuters.
dan friesen
That's just the National File headline.
So we got that.
unidentified
Boom.
dan friesen
Bada-bing.
So now we get to the next headline.
alex jones
UK attempts to ramp up coronavirus testing, hindered as key components contaminated with the virus.
Oh, and this is in the London Independent.
It's in the Daily Mail.
It's in the Gallup.
dan friesen
These are all just stories about the same underlying story that National File is lying about.
So it's not another story.
You just have one.
Headline here.
You don't get credit for reading all of the headlines about the same story from different places.
What are you doing in your office when you're preparing there?
jordan holmes
Reading headlines.
dan friesen
I guess.
So here in this next headline, Alex proves that Bill Gates is in the mix.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
alex jones
These are all mainstream news.
Eurofins North America purchases contract analytical lab craft technologies.
unidentified
Woof.
alex jones
And they are funded by the Melinda Gates Foundation.
That's right.
dan friesen
So this is a different side of the business from the Eurofins that's in Luxembourg.
This is Eurofins North America.
And it's their food division that purchased a different company called Kraft Technologies.
Kraft Technologies had received a Gates Foundation grant back in 2015.
This is a very weak connection, but it's the best Alex can do.
And why the fuck not pretend it means something?
jordan holmes
Wow.
unidentified
Boom!
dan friesen
Got him!
jordan holmes
Damn.
dan friesen
So that's what he's got.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
dan friesen
So then he has only one other headline that really is to make this case.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
alex jones
No.
Let's continue.
Coronavirus testing delayed after kits found to be contaminated by COVID-19.
That's the Daily Mail, and I've got others here.
dan friesen
That's the same story.
jordan holmes
That was the same thing that he mentioned on the last one.
dan friesen
That's the same story.
jordan holmes
He already referenced that it was in the London Independent, the Daily Mail, and the Guardian, and then he brought up, and now the last thing, The Daily Mail!
dan friesen
It's all just the same headlines about the same story that is being able to be turned into a narrative about China having sent these because of the manipulation of the National File headline.
So what you have here is a load of bullshit to end the episode.
But that's not how it ends.
Because it's Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It ends differently.
alex jones
And I need you to spread the word about this because I know when I've entered the danger zone and I'm not backing down like everybody else.
Everybody else is just kind of backing down right now.
So if anything happens to me, just continue to work on.
We're all dead anyways if they win, so I'm not losing anything.
I'm gaining everything.
Alright?
So that I not be counted amongst those timid souls that serve Satan.
Also, you want to fund this operation so I can ram the enemy with full power?
Byproducts you and your family need right now at InfoWarsStore.com while you still can.
dan friesen
That's what it's all about.
jordan holmes
Got him.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
That is what it's all about.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Get this really intense feeling of China trying to infect the world.
We're all gonna die.
We're all dead if we don't win.
Buy my stuff.
That's all this game is.
jordan holmes
I don't like trying to start a war for the lowest possible stakes, you know?
He's not making enough money off pill sales to justify a war.
dan friesen
But that's the problem, like I'm saying, with the escalation of this rhetoric has nowhere to go.
He's already at the point of any rational person listening to this that believes what Alex is saying, the natural conclusion is call for war.
There's nowhere to go past that.
jordan holmes
Hey, look, I get it.
If you're Chiquita Banana, of course you need the United States government to overthrow a bunch of governments for you.
That's just got to be done.
But I'm not going to war with China over fucking zinc sales from the Red Pill based on different Wachowski movies.
That's just not happening, man.
dan friesen
No.
I wanted to hear about QAnon.
jordan holmes
Well, we gotta wait till next week.
dan friesen
I thought it would still build.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Instead, Alex, this episode's a fucking mess.
jordan holmes
We're getting rid of the whole serialized version.
Now we're going episodic.
dan friesen
That's the way this is going.
I do think that it's very difficult to do episodes about multiple episodes of this show anymore.
They are too fucked up.
They are getting to a point where it's just like, this is a dude losing it.
jordan holmes
Day to day, this is out of control.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, this episode has been interesting.
I always enjoy.
And Alex gives me a chance to try and take him seriously.
And he failed once again.
Twice, actually.
In one go.
So congratulations, Alex.
You're setting records.
jordan holmes
That is good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
Now go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
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jordan holmes
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dan friesen
We will be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I secretly wrote V for Vendetta.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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