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March 30, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
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#413: March 27, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan dig into the day when Alex Jones learned that his app was kicked off the Android store and he lost his appeal about being a dick about Sandy Hook.  In this installment, things go about as you expect.

Participants
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a
alex jones
23:33
d
dan friesen
01:24:49
j
jordan holmes
20:21
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paul joseph watson
01:33
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Can I ask you a quick question?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Do you have a bright spot for us?
dan friesen
Sure.
I got something that's a lot of fun, actually.
So in this time that we're in, I've found that I feel like we all need to treat ourselves a little bit.
If we're going to be isolating and self-quarantining to an extent, self-quarantining might be a really extreme word to put on it, but if we're distancing a little bit, trying to stay inside our houses more...
We need to do little things.
jordan holmes
You gotta stay sane.
dan friesen
And you gotta treat yourself with little things maybe that you wouldn't normally give yourself.
Do you eat some more popcorners?
No, I do have plenty still, though.
I have a lot.
But I did buy little mini freeze-dried marshmallows just to put in things.
That you would have in Lucky Charms.
unidentified
Just a bunch of those.
dan friesen
I haven't actually cracked into that yet, so I'm not sure if that's a great treat.
One of the other things I did was I realized that I used to have, or not used to, but...
A while back, I had a big Klondike phase.
Klondike bars.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I liked the variety of them.
jordan holmes
What did you do for them?
dan friesen
I paid about 50 cents each.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
$3 for a six pack.
Didn't do much for them.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But they'd have these great flavors, you know, like there was a mint chip one that's great.
jordan holmes
Those are delicious.
dan friesen
Reese's Cup one is fantastic.
jordan holmes
Too good.
dan friesen
So I was at the store, and I noticed that they had a new one that I'd never seen before, and it was called Klondike Donut.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Boston Cream.
jordan holmes
That's against the law.
What?
dan friesen
So what it is is it's a Klondike bar, but the center is cut out of it.
So it looks like a donut, right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And it's Boston Cream.
jordan holmes
And it's got Boston Cream in there.
dan friesen
It's all right.
jordan holmes
It's all right?
It's just all right.
dan friesen
It's not that amazing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But it's good.
It's whatever.
It's a nice treat that I've given myself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like it.
dan friesen
So I was curious because I was like, okay, Klondike bar, donuts.
They're not just going to make one.
It's got to be a series of them, but I didn't see any other flavors at the store.
jordan holmes
Sprinkles, maybe?
dan friesen
So I had to look into it.
And what I did is I went to Klondike's website.
jordan holmes
This is the problem with being a brilliant researcher, Dan.
Even with Klondike bars, you have to look into it.
dan friesen
So I went to their website to see what other flavors there are.
And there's a couple other flavors.
But that's less important than the reviews that I found.
jordan holmes
It turns out.
dan friesen
It turns out there is a community of people who are really mad at Klondike Barst.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
I don't know.
So here's a review of the Boston Cream.
jordan holmes
Alright, let's do this.
dan friesen
This is from MBD in Gaylord.
quote, Boston cream donuts don't have holes.
I just bought a Boston Cream six-pack for the same sale price, $3, as the other bars and donuts.
Boston Cream donuts don't have holes, so why does the ice cream have holes?
The weight range on the bars and donuts range from 68 to 85 grams, which is a 20% difference.
For the Boston Cream, it's 73 grams.
That's a 14% or 42 cent less than the 85 gram bar.
Also, I expected more flavor.
Please send me a six-pack of donut holes.
jordan holmes
You're stealing chocolate and ice cream from me.
That's his review.
dan friesen
Oh, God, so mad.
So I found, I was like, okay, maybe the Boston cream was just a bust.
Maybe some of the other ones are good.
I checked out, they also have a triple chocolate donut variety.
They have a review there from Malera33.
jordan holmes
Alright, don't dox people.
dan friesen
These are screen names.
Quote, bought the triple chocolate donut by Klondike.
OMG, I had to go back and buy four more packs.
I love chocolate, and I love donuts, and I love Klondike's!
My first bite, I was hooked!
Dark chocolate, milk chocolate, and the taste of donuts!
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Out of this world.
I had to actually hide them from my daughter and husband, lol.
We all love Klondike flavors, but this one took dot dot dot the donut.
jordan holmes
The donut, not the cake, the donut.
dan friesen
Great combo, and they better keep them in stock for me.
Thanks, Klondike.
How many stars out of five do you think that got?
Three.
unidentified
Two.
dan friesen
These people don't understand the star system.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
dan friesen
That's a five-star review.
jordan holmes
That's a five-star review if I've ever heard one.
I'm hiding them from my family?
That's five stars.
dan friesen
So then the other flavor is Frosted Strawberry Donut.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And this one, this review is from Ann.
Quote, where's the strawberry?
Ice cream.
Ice cream looks like plain vanilla.
There's no strawberry swirl and no sprinkles on top.
Has barely a hint of strawberry flavor.
Will not buy this ever again.
jordan holmes
Five stars.
dan friesen
No, one star.
But this review got a response from Klondike.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
What do they got?
dan friesen
Klondike replies, quote, Thanks for the review on Klondike Frosted Strawberry Donut.
We're very sorry to hear about your experience.
We would like to hear more about your feedback.
To which I would say, I think she was pretty clear.
I think she got it all.
jordan holmes
Not enough strawberry.
What else do you want?
dan friesen
So anyway, I had a great time looking at reviews of Klondike bars and recognizing that their customer base has a real difficult time expressing what's wrong.
Except, yes, Anne.
I mean, she had a pretty clear complaint.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Anne understands what she's doing.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that brightened my day quite a bit.
jordan holmes
That's fun.
That is very fun.
I'm just going to read Klondike reviews.
dan friesen
Thinking about what it would take for me to leave a review of a Klondike bar that disappointed me.
Anyway, what about you?
jordan holmes
I love it.
The new album by Thundercat, Dan, is amazing.
Also, it has a track...
Did you ever watch Carol and Tuesday?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
It was an anime that Netflix did by the same Shinichiro Watanabe who did Cowboy Bebop.
And it's about two girls, singer-songwriters, becoming famous.
That's the whole thing.
It's really, really sweet.
And in it...
Thundercat has a song called Unrequited Love, and he's a brilliant bassist.
It's a beautiful song, but at one point, in a fit of cleverness that I will never understand, he calls it Unrequited Love, because they're no longer in love.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
It's spelled the same way.
That's a game-changer, Dan.
That's a game-changer.
The whole world is different now.
dan friesen
I don't know if I experience it as a game changer, but it sounds interesting.
I'll check it out, and I appreciate the recommendation.
jordan holmes
It's a really great album.
dan friesen
All right.
So you recommend that album.
I recommend reviews of snacks.
Go find people being petty as hell online in a very harmless way.
jordan holmes
And listen to a virtuoso bassist while you do it.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we got an episode to go over.
We're going over.
What would that be?
I got the date in front of me.
jordan holmes
There are no days.
dan friesen
I don't know why.
jordan holmes
There are no days.
dan friesen
We're going over March 27th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
On the Alex Jones show.
And it's really, I mean, this is something that people are really excited about, I know.
And that is because last week ended real bad for Alex.
Yeah.
He got a bit of bad news all on Friday.
There was the news that broke about his appeal for a bunch of sanctions in a Sandy Hook lawsuit.
That he was, the appeal was denied.
And also he got his app kicked off the Android store.
So he had a lot going on.
We're going to see how his mood happens to be on this day.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with great.
dan friesen
He's living what he would describe as his best life, which is bad.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's not good.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to that.
But before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
So first, David, thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, David.
Next, Dan.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
Great name.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Dan.
Next, Peter.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Pete.
dan friesen
Next, B-Dubs.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, B-Dubs.
dan friesen
Next, Simon.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Simon.
dan friesen
Next, Leaf versus Snail.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Leaf versus Snail.
dan friesen
Who you got, Dan?
Probably Snail.
jordan holmes
Should I go with the snail?
dan friesen
They can move.
Slowly.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
But leaves are kind of at their own...
jordan holmes
What if the leaf fell while the snail was on top of it?
Who wins?
dan friesen
Is this a paper, rock, scissors thing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think so.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
We'll have to figure this out after the show.
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to somebody who donated on an elevated level, and we appreciate that very much.
So, Andrew, but I wanted to stand out.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we gotta go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Andrew, but I wanted to stand out.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
That was clever.
That's a clever way to stand out.
dan friesen
Indeed it is.
Yes.
If you're out there enjoying the show and you'd like to support us, what we do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button to support the show, or funneling that money towards charitable causes in your area.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we have an out-of-context drop to start things off here from the March 27th show that we're going to go over.
It's been a little bit long for an out-of-context drop, but I thought it was really fun.
alex jones
Real red pill and red pill plus.
Can't seem to say that.
Like supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, I can say that.
But I can't say real red pill, real red pill plus.
dan friesen
He uses supercalifragilisticexpialidocious as something he can say, but then he fucks it up saying it.
I don't know why, but I thought that was really fun.
So Alex starts off the show, and he starts on what I would describe as a kind of grandiose tip.
alex jones
The year is 2020.
On this Friday, global transmission.
You're 220 days out from the election.
And I can say authoritatively that this is the most informative, well-researched broadcast in the world.
And it is most listened to by...
People in industry, the general public, and experts in governments everywhere.
jordan holmes
Not Android users.
alex jones
It's just a fact, and it's a great responsibility, and I am honored to be here and to be your host, and for this to be the people's independent media fighting against this post-human globalist operation.
dan friesen
What an absurd opening to this show.
jordan holmes
That is ridiculous.
dan friesen
But you also notice he's starting to use the good guy music from Star Wars a little bit more.
It seems to be coming up a bit more.
jordan holmes
He's got some swelling strings in there.
dan friesen
Yep.
So he has the most researched, most listened to by world leaders.
And I realize when he says people in the industry, I think he must mean radio?
jordan holmes
Liars?
dan friesen
It could be radio, or it could be spies.
jordan holmes
Regular grifters?
dan friesen
I don't know.
But all that's nonsense.
Yes.
Alex believes that the media is saying, in the way that they're saying that we all should be following these guidelines for public health recommendations, Alex thinks that what they're saying is we will never be normal again.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We are told it is the greatest threat ever to face humanity.
That when this virus has run its course, we will never be the same.
We will no longer shake hands.
We will now be the bubble people.
dan friesen
I've not heard anybody say that we're going to be bubble people.
jordan holmes
I haven't heard that we're going to be bubble people.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Jake Gyllenhaal isn't even a bubble person yet.
dan friesen
No.
I don't know what meaty he's reading, if that's the vibe he's getting.
We will never shake hands again.
You will never touch!
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, I guess you could exaggerate what's very normal, which is pieces saying that the world is going to be different now.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
This is going to change the world and turn it into...
We're never going to be normal again.
I think people are just like, well, the new normal is going to be normal.
dan friesen
Bubbles.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Okay, fair enough.
dan friesen
Bubbles.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
It's going to be like that episode of Seinfeld.
jordan holmes
Bubbles.
dan friesen
Moops.
jordan holmes
Moops.
dan friesen
So Alex believes that there's going to be people in America put in prison for not social distancing and such, and he gets into that a little bit here.
alex jones
It's all about medical tyranny surveillance.
It's all about six months in jail if you don't properly social distance.
That's what...
The Chicago mayor is saying, and Singapore passed a law.
Stories up on newswars.com.
dan friesen
So in the case of Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot, she recently gave a press conference where she was very clearly a bit pissed that the city's leadership had given some pretty clear guidance in terms of saying, hey, people shouldn't be getting out there in big groups.
And people were still going to parks and hanging out at the walks and what have you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
She indicated that if people continued to not take things seriously, the city would be forced to act, saying, quote, not only will our police be deployed to shut them down, if you're not abiding by these orders, we will be forced to shut down the parks and lakefront.
The situation is deadly serious, and we need you to take it deadly seriously.
Alex watches a lot of movies, so I'm going to put it to him in terms that he can understand.
In Jaws, people needed to stop going to the beach.
It was dangerous, but they loved the beach, and they didn't want to take the threat seriously.
The mayor needed to close all the beaches to protect the population from themselves, but he didn't do it, which got a lot of people killed.
Mayor Vaughn is the bad guy in Jaws.
The shark is just a force of nature.
jordan holmes
Didn't a governor or a mayor or something recently say that his hero was that guy?
I don't know.
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
He didn't close the beach town?
dan friesen
That's not the message of the movie.
jordan holmes
That's not!
No!
dan friesen
The conversation about arresting people for not following health guidelines was initiated by, actually not by Lori Lightfoot, but the superintendent of the police, Charlie Beck, who said, quote, The public health order is not an advisory.
It is a mandate.
If you violate, you are subject to a fine of $500.
If you continue to violate it, you will be subject to arrest.
Clearly the message that was being sent is that you can be arrested as a last resort if you're habitually engaging in behavior counter to health guidelines.
I don't hear that as much as the threat of an arrest of people as it is a reminder that arrest is possible as an outcome.
Obviously, with the issues of prison overcrowding and health within prisons, no one's eager to increase unnecessary incarcerations right now.
So you have to just kind of assume that it would be a misdemeanor arrest that you get released on.
You wouldn't be going to jail.
jordan holmes
Right.
Anybody who's doing that like four or five times probably should be in jail.
dan friesen
But they wouldn't be.
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
It's just an elevated ticket of some sort.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Conversely, Singapore is actually threatening people with six months in jail for breaking health guidance.
There's a couple of big caveats here, though.
The first is that people who violate their order to keep at least one meter apart from people or meeting groups of more than 10, they're subject to either six months imprisonment or a fine equivalent to seven thousand U.S. dollars.
Damn!
They have a notoriously draconian justice system.
You may recall back in 1994, a teen from the United States was arrested for vandalism and was sentenced to four months in prison, a $3,500 fine, and six strokes from the cane.
Bill Clinton appealed for clemency, and in a show of respect, the leader of Singapore reduced it to four strokes.
jordan holmes
That was very kind of him.
dan friesen
In addition to caning being a form of punishment the state uses, they also have a very broad definition of what sorts of crimes will get you the death sentence.
Importing, exporting, or possessing more than 500 grams of marijuana, 30 grams of cocaine, or 15 grams of heroin will get you a mandatory death sentence.
jordan holmes
That seems excessive.
dan friesen
If you hear that Singapore is threatening to arrest people for violating health guidelines, that might not be exciting news.
But it also shouldn't surprise anyone.
It's honestly a pretty lax punishment given some of the things we know about their justice system.
The only reason to bring that up here in the context Alex is is because he wants to imply that Chicago is doing the same thing as Singapore is doing.
And that's not really fair.
No.
He's trying to create that conflation in people's minds.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So Alex is continuing down his path of trying to say that this is just like the flu.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And talking about how awful and how much worse the flu is.
alex jones
And now they're saying the United States is the global...
Epicenter.
Why the whole country is covered in red the way the model works.
Less people have died worldwide from the coronavirus this year than have died of the flu last year.
35,000 have died.
21,000 have died from the coronavirus, supposedly.
35,000 in the U.S. 80,000 died according to the CDC in 2018 from the flu.
The worst flu.
In years.
dan friesen
First of all, Alex is completely lying about the CDC's numbers from 2018.
Talking about the number of people who die in a given year, January through December, isn't really a useful way to frame things in this kind of conversation.
Flu season begins in like October and starts to wrap up in February or March, so it overlaps years.
If you're talking about just flu cases in 2018, you would end up talking about the cases at the end of one season and the cases at the beginning of another.
It could be different strains.
It's generally not how these statistics are discussed.
And definitely not how they're usually presented on the CDC's website.
I'm not sure which flu season he's trying to use, since this would be either the 2017-2018 flu season or the 2018-2019 flu season.
Either way, he's lying when he says the 80,000 number.
Directly from the CDC's website, they estimate 61,000 deaths from the influenza-like illnesses in the 2017-2018 season and 34,200 in the 2018-2019 season.
These are imprecise estimates, but they're probably spiritually accurate, which is to say that the 2017-2018 season was more deadly than the following year.
Alex is taking his information from news articles from late 2018, when the CDC's director came out and estimated there had been 80,000 deaths that season.
Which would be the 2017-2018 season.
However, articles about this do point out that, quote, CDC officials called the 80,000-figure preliminary and that it might be revised.
And it was.
But if you just read the headline, you probably wouldn't know that.
We discussed on our last episode why flu comparisons are dumb, but I wanted to chime in here just to show that even when discussing something that's kind of irrelevant but factually indisputable, namely that worldwide deaths...
He probably shouldn't be able to start his shows like that.
It's parody.
unidentified
It is.
dan friesen
It's what you would do if you were making a joke.
jordan holmes
It's literally like...
That clip of like, I just can't pronounce Red Pill, but I can pronounce Super Cajafragibist is like, that's exactly what's going on right here.
dan friesen
What's saying this is really researched?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's the exact same thing.
dan friesen
It'd be like me saying, this is the least hairy broadcast in the world.
This is the podcast where the host has the least back hair.
It's just gaslighting.
Yeah.
Anyway, Alex has started taking a tone.
And I've noticed it picking up more.
I mean, obviously, he's blaming China and what have you.
But in the most recent episodes, I've picked up a little bit of a trend where it's more blaming Chinese people.
Less so than the Chinese government's decisions.
Which I think, I mean, I don't want Alex to do it because I don't think he can handle the conversation.
But I think that people have a conversation about whether or not China acted...
The way that it should have.
You know, that's a conversation that can be had.
Maybe World Health Organization folks would rather not have that conversation while the pandemic is active.
But people in the media who are like, did China cover up their numbers early on?
Did they act quickly enough?
I don't think that is necessarily a toxic conversation.
But conversations about Chinese people and their actions, particularly Chinese Americans.
Real bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I believe that Alex is starting to get into that territory.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
alex jones
The Democrats didn't want us to stop Chinese from flying here when everybody else had banned them a few months ago.
And it's also the Chinese that came here under government orders and bought up all the M95 masks and the medicine and that stopped shipments of medicine that would already been paid for to the United States, Australia and other countries and actually stolen.
it but then the left celebrates gq has a story out gq writer saying america is a crap hole because we're the epicenter and it's our fault and we're bad but So, we're seeing Alex take this rhetoric in a very disturbing direction.
dan friesen
He's always been a huge racist, and he's definitely engaged in narratives that blame immigrants for bringing in disease in the past, and we've called that out when he has.
What he's starting to do now is still an escalation, though, because the same behavior that he's had in the past in different circumstances has the potential to cause different results.
When he was yelling about refugees coming in from the southern border having Ebola, he was trying to demonize non-white immigrants, and that is completely clear and awful.
But there wasn't any Ebola.
He was making up an imaginary threat to scapegoat onto those refugees, which is bad, but not nearly as bad as what he's doing now.
There is a real outbreak now, and Alex is beginning to act in ways where he's blaming Chinese people for it being bad, like making up that they came here and bought up all the masks and medicine.
These are the sorts of claims that, if believed by a wide enough audience, stands to get Chinese people killed.
The fact that there's a real outbreak elevates Alex's behavior from being absolutely unacceptable bigotry to being outright incitement.
Many people in his audience may have a loved one who have gotten diagnosed with the virus, and what Alex is trying to do is direct their feelings of anger towards Chinese people.
He's not talking about the Chinese government.
He's talking about some mysterious, non-specific Chinese people who got flown in and bought up medicine and masks.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, what's going on here as Alex is working two different angles simultaneously also, which is troubling.
What he's literally saying currently is that the outbreak is no big deal.
It's basically the flu and everyone should go back to work.
But what he's preparing for with his rhetoric is the exact opposite.
He knows that this is going to get worse.
And he knows that people who are affected by it and who maybe lose loved ones and family members and friends, they're going to be looking for someone to blame.
All indications from reality show that the Trump administration made some really bad early decisions that have led us to where we are now.
So Alex needs to find a way to deflect from people recognizing that.
Ultimately, he's a racist and he's lazy, so the only path he can come up with to go down is to demonize a minority group and scapegoat them for his hero's failings, which is kind of what a Nazi might do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's pretty much exactly what a Nazi might do.
Just imagine being an info warrior walking down the street.
A family member has just died, and then you see a Chinese person wearing a mask.
dan friesen
Right, and maybe a nice watch, like he mentioned on the last episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you think, goddammit, they stole it from me and killed a family member.
dan friesen
You don't even need that level of cognitive processing.
You're already seeing reports of increased hostility towards Asian Americans.
You don't need the concrete A to B, but discussing it in terms like this allows people to subconsciously make jumps in their brain that they don't even realize they're making.
This facilitates racism.
This facilitates non-specific bigotry.
Hostility and potentially violence.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And it's really, really fucked up.
It's the exact behavior you would not want to see in these sorts of circumstances.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this kind of racism leads to internment camps.
unidentified
Well, not right now because that would be murder, but...
dan friesen
I mean, there are already people in camps.
jordan holmes
Oh boy, yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
So Alex is really defensive about how everyone says don't call it the Chinese virus.
Which, obviously, you shouldn't call it the Chinese virus.
But Alex likes doing that.
And he likes playing fentanyl, the Chinese racist dragon character.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So he needs to make sure that everyone knows that this is okay.
alex jones
And yes, it's a Chinese virus.
You always say where something came from, like Rocky Mountain tick fever.
Or the Spanish flu.
It first came out of there.
Or any of these diseases, they almost always have the name of where they originated from.
dan friesen
Alex is just the biggest idiot in the world, man.
And before I get into any of this, I'd like to remind you that he claimed at the start of the show that his is the most researched show in the world.
So as to the Rocky Mountain tick fever, that's actually called Rocky Mountain spotted fever.
The disease was initially called black measles because of the coloration of the rash that it causes.
However, eventually it was found that it wasn't a type of measles and it was associated with tick bites.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's actually, from everything I can tell, it's named after the laboratory where most of the research into the disease was done, the Rocky Mountain Laboratories.
It's largely a misleading name, since almost all of the cases of Rocky Mountain spotted fever occur east of Oklahoma, with very few actually occurring in the Rockies area.
It's debatable if it's also named after the fact that some of the first identified cases were initially thought to be caused by the Rocky Mountain wood tick, exclusively from that tick, which is native to the Rockies.
But even if that's the case, it's less geographical in nature and more about the ticks, the disease vector.
Which is still not great, according to epidemiologists and health professionals.
You know, like swine flu, you end up with unnecessary slaughtering of animals.
Spanish flu is even worse, as an example.
You may recall that as the name that was given to the pandemic flu outbreak from 1918.
If you know your history, you also know that 1918 happens to be at the tail end of World War I. What you might not remember so easily is that Spain was neutral in World War I, which meant that they weren't living in the same wartime restrictions as most of the other allied or central power countries were.
Due to the need to keep morale high, almost every country that was involved in World War I had highly censored news publication rules, and they actively suppressed reporting about the flu.
This was not a consideration for the Spanish media, who were relatively free to report on the reality of the outbreaks going on.
Beginning in May 1918, they were reporting more candidly than anyone else about what was actually happening, which made it appear that they were the source of the outbreak, which probably wasn't true.
No one actually knows definitively where the flu of 1918 came from, but there are a number of theories, none of which are Spain.
If you're going strictly by chronology, the first known case of that flu happened on March 4, 1918, when a soldier at Fort Riley in Kansas, the United States, fell ill.
One theory is that soldiers going to war in Europe introduce the disease from there.
But again, it's hard to definitively know if that's the actual ultimate beginning point.
These are shitty examples that Alex is using.
But we do have a bad history of naming diseases after places for a long time.
West Nile virus or Rift Valley fever definitely come to mind as better examples Alex could have used.
These diseases were named prior to the World Health Organization instituting rules in 2015 about naming conventions, where it was discouraged to name diseases after groups of people, places, or animals because it was recognized there was a considerable stigma that came along with that practice that was completely unnecessary and dangerous.
There's a rich history of using illnesses to demonize groups of people.
For instance, according to Stat News, when syphilis first came around, it was known as the Neapolitan disease among the French and the French disease among the Italians.
Russians called it the Polish disease and the Polish called it the German disease.
This sort of thing is counterproductive to public health, so in present day it's heavily discouraged.
The issue for Alex, though, is that demonizing Chinese people is exactly what he wants to do.
So explaining to him that we don't name diseases that way so we don't pointlessly demonize people isn't going to help.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's the point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep.
It's amazing how well human beings learn, you know?
And also how very, very, very, very poorly and not at all we do.
It's amazing.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's 20-fucking-20.
dan friesen
You better do.
jordan holmes
We're not in...
dan friesen
I'm dead.
It's 20-20.
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
So, I was mostly interested in listening to the show, not because of whatever fun lies he was going to tell about the coronavirus, what kind of deflections he was going to have about Trump.
That's kind of standard stuff.
I was really more interested in tuning in to find out, what are we going to do about the bad news?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
What are we going to do?
And not talk about it.
Well, it's interesting.
Alex's approach is unexpected, but also completely predictable.
So he starts a segment by bringing up how the media always lies about his court cases.
jordan holmes
It's the media's fault.
dan friesen
And I want to be clear, the way he's setting this up, it's obvious that he's talking about the stories that have come out about the Sandy Hook case.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course.
dan friesen
So he gets into this and...
It's bizarre.
It's really bizarre.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Let me just state the facts so that everybody understands where we're really at.
On New Year's Eve, starting this year, ending 2019, every TV channel, every news program from Fox News to CNN to local CBS ran tickers.
Alex Jones lost a lawsuit for attacking Sandy Hook children.
None of that was even true.
And they do that on a routine basis on every channel, including cruise ships in South Africa.
That's on the little handout at your door every morning.
On the front, Alex Jones attacked people's children.
dan friesen
That South African cruise ship newsletter wasn't about Alex's court case.
That was about his DUI, and it wasn't on the front page.
It was just an aggregated feed of AP stories.
This is a pathetic attempt to repurpose that narrative here.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
As of the question of whether or not the media constantly lies about Alex's court cases, I would say they do not.
In terms of the New Year's Eve stuff, those stories that came out on December 31st, 2019, were not about Alex losing any case.
The headlines were that Alex had to pay $100,000 in fines for his ridiculous behavior.
As the BBC reported, this was because, quote, Mr. Jones and his lawyer had intentionally disregarded an October court order to produce witnesses and other materials to the plaintiffs in the lawsuit.
Some of this is Rob Dew's fault.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The A&P story about this from back then clearly says that, quote, T. Wade Jeffries, an attorney for Jones, said in an email Tuesday that they would appeal the decision not to dismiss the fines.
This is because they had previously requested that the fines be dismissed, which was declined, so Alex then appealed the decision to dismiss the fines.
That gets us to the present day, because on March 26th, it was reported that Alex lost that appeal.
And that he was facing approximately $150,000 in fines and fees in this case even before the trial has begun.
He's going to end up with even more before this is all said and done because his strategy is clearly to stretch things out and file frivolous motion after frivolous motion.
He doesn't have any other shot because he probably knows this trial has the potential to end his career.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
But even though the media is reporting on Alex losing this appeal in the present day, the Austin American statesman clearly says that Alex's lawyer plans to appeal this to the Texas Supreme Court.
So Alex can get on his show here and pretend that he's definitely winning this thing when all he's really doing is trying to run out the clock.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's probably worked pretty well in other cases, you know, hoping to become such a hassle to the plaintiffs that they settle.
But I don't think that play is going to work here.
I think he's just delaying the inevitable.
jordan holmes
Nope, not this time.
This time it's going to be real consequences for his shit.
dan friesen
So he's saying that everybody, the media always lies.
And the media said that he lost this case back then.
Which obviously is meant to imply that these news stories that are coming out now are also the same lies as from New Year's.
But he doesn't say that.
That's just the implication that you would understand very clearly if you knew the news that had come out.
Sure.
unidentified
But Alex doesn't bring up the new story.
dan friesen
Why do they do that?
alex jones
Because the order from the shadow government went out, programmed in to the Mockingbird system, there were congressional hearings about this in the 70s, Operation Mockingbird, to make me a villain.
Now, why are they doing that?
Because when the Council on Foreign Relations and the Atlantic Council and all of these other globalist organizations tune into this show, they know I know about the Organization of Economic Cooperative Development as the main root corporation of the whole world government.
They know I know about the Ex-Im Bank.
They know that I really have done the research.
And I know what their endgame plan is, and it freaks them out.
dan friesen
None of that is private stuff.
Trump just appointed a head of the exports-imports bank.
jordan holmes
Well, there is that, yeah.
dan friesen
Globalists aren't worried about this.
jordan holmes
Globalists are just saying super-fragilisticexpialidocious.
dan friesen
As a group, in Alex's conception, don't exist.
But if they did, they would not be worried about what Alex does.
They would be like, alright.
He's just gonna make a couple bucks hustling pills and yelling.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
Oh, that sounds about right.
Also, why would they make you a villain?
Because you play the Imperial fucking March theme song like of goddamn everybody you like as a villain.
Even if they were real, it's just not hard.
dan friesen
But also, you know who else would make you a villain?
Anybody who cares about other people.
Yeah, exactly.
That's really the reality.
The way you behave and the rhetoric that comes forth and the world that you wish to create.
Through your rhetoric.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's something that's offensive to most decent people.
So I think they would have a vested interest in portraying you as you are, which is villainous.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
No need for globalists in the equation.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Why would they make you look like a villain?
And then you just play the fentanyl clip and you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Done.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
So Alex is the scourge of the globalists.
This is all still in this rant that was begun by the introduction of they always lie about me losing court cases.
So you think that he's eventually going to get to this news, but instead he's just like, man, they're so scared of me.
alex jones
So you have to understand, this broadcast with the guest and the calls and myself and the crew...
Is the zeitgeist.
It's like the running man when they take over the TV station and air the tape showing that it's all fake television and the government's villainous and run by criminals and it's game over.
But it's not that simple.
The globalists tune in and they go, if people ever pay attention to this, if they ever look into this, it's over for us.
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
I've been looking into his stuff for quite a while.
And I've not had the same response that Alex thinks that people would if they looked into stuff.
I would say almost the opposite.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Just as a point, a couple episodes ago, we were going through what type of movies he's got on there.
jordan holmes
I am going to cross off Running Man.
We got that one down.
dan friesen
You got to get a bingo card.
We really should get a bingo card.
jordan holmes
We really should.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think it would be used up very quickly.
jordan holmes
I think we're going to get to Logan's run.
I think that one's next.
dan friesen
I'm positive I've heard him mention it before.
But maybe not on our show.
So Alex knows that the globalists need to make him a villain.
And they need to do that because once they have made him bad.
Bad!
As if most people don't already fucking hate him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Once they've ruined his name.
jordan holmes
Oh no!
dan friesen
Then they can kill him.
alex jones
Now, before they can put me in prison or kill me, they've got to kill my name as a populist nationalist Christian patriot.
jordan holmes
Aha, it's in capital letters.
alex jones
Before they kill me, but they do intend to kill me.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
That's okay.
I'm not worried about me.
I'm worried about the true anti-human evil that seeks to literally sterilize every man-child on the planet by law.
By law.
dan friesen
Children of men.
jordan holmes
Ah, there we go.
alex jones
In the mail.
That's why you see that in the movies.
You see the feminist groups saying we should abort male babies.
We should outlaw male fetuses.
This is put out now by mainline groups.
You're like, well, that sounds horrific.
It is horrific.
dan friesen
So this is a great moment that helps reveal how little Alex knows about anything.
He's just mad that the Tavistock Clinic has a wing dedicated to gender since 1989 called the Gender Identity Development Service.
He thinks that a clinic focused on providing care around gender identity is equivalent to them wanting to eliminate males, which is just a byproduct of his bigotry.
The confusion comes because there's another entity called the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations, which grew out of the Tavistock Clinic, but has been a completely separate organization since September 1947.
The Tavistock Institute engages in education and advocacy surrounding issues related to social science, and they release the journal Human Relations.
Alex thinks that the Tavistock Clinic and the Tavistock Institute are the same thing.
I've heard him get them completely confused on many occasions, and honestly, if this is the level of work he's bringing, I don't know.
Yeah, we've covered Tavistock before.
Which kind of relates to what Alex was talking about.
But I can't find any of them that relate to suggesting that men should be gotten rid of.
Maybe a tweet here and there Paul Joseph Watson could find to yell about.
But I've found ones that argue for higher representation of women in peace negotiations.
And there's plenty of articles that have references to Lysistrata.
But the sort of thing that Alex is talking about doesn't seem like it's real.
Outside of ridiculous conspiracy theories that basically just grow out of anti-LGBH.
Oh man, he hates Aeschylus.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I don't find a whole lot of truth there.
But it's so fascinating to me how consistent this inability to understand.
Like, I really don't think he knows that the Tavistock Institute and clinic are different things.
jordan holmes
I absolutely agree with you.
dan friesen
There's no way he knows.
I'm fascinated by that because he has every reason to.
jordan holmes
And if you told him, he'd be like, no, they're not.
dan friesen
They're secretly the same.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Just a blanket denial.
dan friesen
They're both just named after Tavistock Square.
Disgusting!
unidentified
Okay, whatever.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex...
jordan holmes
I call it the Chinese Tavistock Square.
dan friesen
So Alex is mad at the leftists.
And again, this is still part of the same segment that begins with the ramble about the lying about his court cases.
They need to destroy my name.
I'm the zeitgeist.
The globalists fear me.
It's all sort of in the same theme.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
If you look at the conformity of the ivory towers, the conformity of the universities, the conformity of the left, and how they revel in conformity, And now they believe they're collectivists on some good mission.
They're such useful idiots, smucks, that in their own world and system, they have submission to the tyranny.
And they have submission to the lie.
They're delusional.
They're becoming dumber.
They're dying.
They're becoming bankrupt.
They're not having children.
They're dead.
They're depressed.
They're statistically destroyed.
All the metrics show, but still they delusionally believe in the great quest that if they can pull down America and pull down Christ and if they can rearrange the family, that somehow their university degree as a liberal, as a leftist, will put them in a position of power in this new utopian vision that they're all going to run someday.
But first, they've got to make you submit.
To the model that they have for you, which is an anti-human model.
And you ask, why do they keep trying that?
Because if you are following the real human model encoded in you by God, you will be successful.
You will be empowered.
You will have a relationship with God and the universe God created.
You will interface with it.
You will have discernment.
You will be fulfilled.
You won't need them.
dan friesen
Alex still has not addressed these news stories.
unidentified
No, no.
dan friesen
This is how he wants to cover losing this appeal.
Which is rambling about demons and leftists and they're all dead already.
jordan holmes
Projecting exactly what he's trying to do onto the leftists.
Talk about conformity.
The entire right-wing propaganda machine has turned the right-wing into a cult of Trump.
There's nothing more conforming than 35% of the country, no matter what, believing that Trump is perfect.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a mess.
jordan holmes
It's disgusting.
dan friesen
Yeah, I agree.
So, Alex is still, like, I can't stress this enough.
He does this whole segment and does not address the actual news at all, but you can tell that's what he is behind what he's doing.
alex jones
When you don't work, when you don't build, when you don't strive, you become lackadaisical, unhappy, corrupt, decadent, twisted, but more importantly, domesticated and obsolete and ready for the fire.
That's why they're building this world where humans aren't needed.
That's why it's not progress.
It is destruction.
They didn't put the Native Americans on the reservations to empower them.
They put them there to exterminate them slowly.
So this isn't progress.
This is an overwrite.
It's a post-human world, and President Trump understands that, and we're not going along with their post-human world, so they're forcing it with this virus.
dan friesen
So I think Alex has completely lost the thread of what he seems to be trying to talk about.
I don't think he can just bring himself to...
Look, again...
Once again, stories of my lost appeals are not true.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I feel like he's like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
It feels like he's lashing out like a child that just got in trouble and so now he's like smashing glasses over there.
Just like, I need to get something out of this and I can't deal with what my actions were.
dan friesen
And the way the glass smashing becomes manifested is just trying to yell about how you're the target of an entire worldwide conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And, you know, within minutes he's off to the races and this completely unrelated stuff.
I will say, however, at this point, he, like I said, he has not addressed the new news at all.
At all.
That, you know, but, having said that...
It's nice to hear him say that what the U.S. did to the native peoples was an attempt at genocide and extermination.
That seems like something he pretty consistently denies because he's pretty invested in the American exceptionalism line where all negative talk about the country and its history is just the product of globalist meddling.
he'd probably say that the globalists were trying to kill the natives and Andrew Jackson was a noble force trying to defend them against it.
But whatever.
Yeah.
unidentified
Leaving that aside, it should be pointed out that on Friday, news broke about the Department of the Interior ordering that the reservation of the Mashpee Wampwag tribe be disestablished.
dan friesen
The land was put into a trust in 2015, but Trump's administration went back on that in September 2018.
There have been ongoing legal disputes about this, but I don't think there's any way to look at it and not come away at the conclusion that the timing is almost comically villainous.
Alex and the political world he's a part of do not give a fuck about Native peoples.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
It's just convenient to sometimes pretend to care when their slaughter can be used to make a point about your own imaginary victimhood.
So that's all.
But it's great that he's paying lip service to it, I guess?
jordan holmes
I mean, if you really are saying that right now and you're not then following it up with...
And so we should invest more in the Native American community instead of just being like, see, they did it, and now I'm not going to do anything more.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, it's exploitative.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's bullshit.
dan friesen
It is.
It is.
So Alex gets done with this segment.
It wraps up, and he doesn't bring up the case.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is shocking, almost.
He comes back from break, and he's got passage from history that's on his mind.
alex jones
I think this is an apt thing to read here.
We're about to introduce Paul Joseph Watson.
Thomas Paine wrote this in The Crisis on the eve of the Revolutionary War in 1775.
These are the times that trimen souls, the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot, will in this crisis shrink from the service of their country.
But he that stands by it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.
dan friesen
So Alex is reading a passage from Thomas Paine's pamphlet, The American Crisis, but I think he has the date wrong.
It wasn't published in 1775.
It was first posted in the Pennsylvania Journal on December 19th, 1776.
It was months after the Declaration of Independence.
The pamphlet was basically just war propaganda to get colonists on the side of the Revolutionary War, and it's also painfully naive.
Paine says, quote, Yeah, as liberators.
Yeah.
unidentified
However, there is a passage that Alex doesn't read from that pamphlet that I think is pretty applicable to Alex himself.
dan friesen
Pain is discussing how panic affects people.
Quote, yet panics in some cases have their uses.
They produce as much good as hurt.
Their duration is always short.
The mind soon grows through them and acquires a firmer habit than before.
But their peculiar advantage is that they are the touchstones of sincerity and hypocrisy and brings things and men to light which might otherwise have lain forever undiscovered.
I feel like this applies pretty well to Alex and his behavior in the past month or so.
Granted, the things we've all seen very clearly in the light of this panic, his shameless opportunistic sales practices and his complete disregard for consistency or accuracy in reporting, those aren't necessarily things that would have lain forever undiscovered, but they take on a new level of importance in the context of this outbreak.
jordan holmes
And not to forget his complete and utter disregard for human life.
dan friesen
Well, that came to light, yeah.
But I think we had a hint at that prior.
jordan holmes
That one we knew, but now that it's, you know, you can have disregard for human life whenever it's imaginary, and you're like, oh, that could be a thing.
But now that it's real, and you're actively advocating for things that will kill people, that's a little bit of a different story.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
Also, if Alex had read the rest of that pamphlet, he would have gotten to the part where Thomas Paine was not so thrilled with militias.
Quote, from an excessive tenderness, we were unwilling to raise an army and trusted our cause to the temporary defense of a well-meaning militia.
A summer's experience has now taught us better.
He goes on to say, quote, I've always considered militia as the best troops in the world for a sudden exertion, but they will not do for a long campaign.
And with that, I think I agree with Thomas Paine.
Militias are good for, I don't know, let's say, domestic terrorism.
jordan holmes
That does seem like what they're best at.
Like real short, sort of.
A sort of insurgent terrorist network.
dan friesen
That's kind of what they're about.
Maybe they're well-modeled for that.
jordan holmes
A standing army, not so good at short-term terrorist bursts.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
They'd probably do it if they tried.
dan friesen
My point is that Alex doesn't have a good handle on his source material here, but he knows a couple of good passages he can put out that tend to complement his narratives every once in a while, so according to him, he has a PhD in history.
And this is the most researched show ever.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think one thing that he can pat himself on the back about is that he did not claim this was from Thomas Jefferson.
dan friesen
Thomas, though.
Thomas.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
That's true.
Maybe we missed the TJ.
dan friesen
He's reading the quote accurately.
It's at least not a fake quote.
jordan holmes
No, that's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
I will hand it to him for that.
That's progress.
jordan holmes
There are low bars.
dan friesen
It's like when you give a kid a cookie for tying a shoe.
It's like, that's impressive for you.
jordan holmes
For you.
Yeah, yeah.
We need to positively reinforce your behavior.
dan friesen
So here's a cookie, Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
So now Paul Joseph Watson ends up coming on, and they talk a little bit.
I think most of it is surrounding the idea that, you know, Boris Johnson now has coronavirus.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so they talk about that a tiny bit, and then Alex says something real dumb.
alex jones
Paul Joseph Watson is in the UK, where the Prime Minister has contracted the dreaded Wunan Chi-Com virus, known as COVID-19, politically correct?
jordan holmes
Ramping up that racism, bro.
alex jones
The police are now roving around, saying, don't be out in the sun, which actually kills COVID-19.
The sun kills COVID-19?
jordan holmes
Is there an attorney general to send a letter for that?
dan friesen
Alex is lying about sunlight killing the coronavirus.
jordan holmes
I'm going to start selling sunlamps to people.
dan friesen
I was worried that he did.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking right there.
dan friesen
I checked the store and he doesn't.
jordan holmes
I was like, is this a vitamin D thing?
dan friesen
Yeah.
It is true that super concentrated UV light can kill viruses, but that's not what you get from being outside.
Even direct sunlight over a long time will not do anything about the coronavirus.
So there are three kinds of UV light.
A, B, and C. A is the most prevalent kind that you get outside.
B is the kind that's damaging to your DNA and causes sunburns.
And then C is pretty caustic stuff that destroys genetic material.
But you don't have to deal with it in nature because the ozone in the atmosphere blocks it out and stops it from a frying you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's pretty helpful for the continued survival of all life on the planet.
dan friesen
It will fuck you up in like a minute.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, UVC is the kind of light that can kill viruses.
And a lot of places are using that kind of technology for disinfecting.
Yeah.
Anyway, Alex is just continuing his string of erroneous statements about cures and preventions for the coronavirus.
But again, like you were worried, at least he doesn't sell UV lights.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, he is trying to get a letter from every attorney general.
dan friesen
I don't think he understands that the problem isn't necessarily that a lot of people have with the...
I mean, obviously, the profiteering makes it worse.
jordan holmes
Way worse.
dan friesen
But from a public health standpoint, even if you're not making money off it, saying things that are...
Fully wrong and dangerous.
jordan holmes
Like, you should drink bleach.
dan friesen
Just as bad if you're not selling bleach.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, Boris Johnson's got the COVID, and it turns out that even Paul Joseph Watson recognizes that Boris Johnson is real dumb.
paul joseph watson
Now the Prime Minister becomes the first world leader in the entire globe to have coronavirus.
Probably something to do with it might have been the fact that he was shaking the hands of coronavirus victims in hospital three weeks ago.
Probably not the best idea.
dan friesen
Pretty dumb.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's why I voted for him.
dan friesen
The claim that Boris Johnson is the first world leader to contract coronavirus is just not true.
Bolsonaro tested positive, though he claims he took another test and it was negative, but he's also a huge liar and an asshole, so who knows?
jordan holmes
And he's also claiming it's a giant hoax on top of that.
Didn't he say it wasn't even real?
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
What an asshole.
dan friesen
Even if you leave Bolsonaro off that list.
jordan holmes
Bolsonaro!
unidentified
Sorry.
dan friesen
I know that the Prince of Monaco tested positive for this virus, and I only know that because Alex fucking told me so.
So that's one example.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
Justin Trudeau's wife tested positive, so you kind of have to assume that he probably has it, too.
Yeah.
Ishak Jahangiri, the vice president of Iran, tested positive.
And what about Prince Charles?
Also, I know that he's technically not a world leader, but Alex thinks he is, so shouldn't Rand Paul be more important in this conversation than Boris?
jordan holmes
That's a good call.
dan friesen
Anyway, some of these people aren't technically the heads of government, but they're all people I would call pretty relevant politically.
jordan holmes
A little bit, yeah.
dan friesen
But no, no, Boris Johnson's the first.
jordan holmes
The number one, absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What a fucking...
I can't believe Boris.
dan friesen
So Paul's got an interesting perspective on this.
And by interesting, I mean flagrantly racist.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But also...
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
He believes that there are things we need to do.
unidentified
Good.
dan friesen
Like, we should stay home.
Good.
But he also has an angle that seems really consistent that's like, they're only going to make whites do this.
jordan holmes
Okay, there we go.
dan friesen
Which is not great.
All right.
jordan holmes
All right, KKK.
alex jones
What do you make of this?
paul joseph watson
Well, there's an argument to be made that we should have overreacted because then if we didn't, we didn't take it seriously, it would have been way worse.
There's a big problem with...
A lack of ventilators and hospital beds in the UK and in London, one hospital already had to declare an emergency because they ran out of beds with ventilators.
So there is that problem of a rush of new patients then making people who are already ill not able to get treatment.
So it is a big problem.
But again, going back to these social distancing measures, it's all selectively enforced, as you said, Alex.
You go into the migrant areas, you go into the inner city areas full of urban youth.
Gangs of them still out on the streets, nothing happens.
dan friesen
Wow.
That's the angle that Paul's going with.
Anecdotally, or maybe not even anecdotally, I bet Muslims aren't staying in.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, why not?
unidentified
Come on, Paul.
jordan holmes
So fucking close to getting it.
Everybody on the right wing.
dan friesen
He gets, like...
Those details.
We should have overreacted more back then because now we're seeing the situation where they're running out of ventilators and people who could have been helped can't be helped and it's causing a real problem.
The overwhelming of the medical system is coming into being.
So he gets that part.
jordan holmes
Right.
And then what's the next step?
dan friesen
Well, deflection.
jordan holmes
Blame Muslims.
There we go.
dan friesen
I'm not even sure if he's blaming them.
He's shifting the conversation towards, like, let's not focus on that.
Let's focus on the fact that Muslims get away with everything.
They're just trying to crack down on whites.
jordan holmes
If your argument is we should have done something before, that suggests that the people who didn't do that should have done it, and they made a mistake.
They fucked up.
dan friesen
Let's not dwell on that.
jordan holmes
They're a shitty president.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, no.
It's more important to focus on the fact that non-white urban youths and Muslims are getting away with everything now.
This story, mic down for this, because Paul Joseph Watson, I do not believe this story one bit.
This story is fake.
paul joseph watson
Meanwhile, in London yesterday...
I happened to look outside of my window on a main road in London, and a group of youths turned up and decided to have, Alex, a rap battle on the street, as they were also pissing in the street.
A group of six of them on a main road in London, and of course nothing whatsoever happened.
But if you walk your dog in a remote location in the Peak District in Northern England, then you're bad.
dan friesen
So, I know that he does not specify the race of these youths, but he is very...
jordan holmes
I think rap battle kind of suggests what he...
dan friesen
If you're on Infowars, you know how the audience tends to hear this.
There's coding in the way he's telling the story.
And I don't believe that story for one fucking second.
But, if we do accept the premise of Paul's tale, I think there's another explanation for everything.
The police are not everywhere at all times.
They're only going to be able to respond to things that are brought to their attention in many cases.
Different places will have relatively different sensibilities in terms of what someone might report to the police.
This basic principle is why when I was young I would never smoke a joint in my car in a good neighborhood.
There's too many well-to-do people with nothing better to do than look out their window and snitch.
It's entirely possible that the probably imaginary dog walker Paul is talking about was an unfortunate victim of nosy neighbors.
If any of this is true, and Paul understands the need to react in ways that may seem like overreaction in other circumstances, and he witnessed this rap battle slash pee fight, why didn't he call the police?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he's not a snitch.
dan friesen
I suspect it's because it's made up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or because he doesn't really care about this to begin with.
His only interest in them battling and telling this story is that he has the opportunity to build up a racist grievance.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Also, this story definitely, definitely did not happen.
jordan holmes
Spit a few bars, Paul.
Spit a few bars, Paul.
Let's see how you were...
He should have joined that rap battle.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what he should have done.
dan friesen
Get in the cipher.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on, man.
What are you doing?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex joins in and they continue this theme and this trend of...
Muslims get away with whatever they want while the whites get henpecked.
alex jones
And doesn't the UK see through this where if you're a Muslim, you literally can rape, kill, piss, devocate, stab, in fact, even letting migrants in, they're saying right now, so is Europe.
But if you're a citizen and you're in some super rural, remote area climbing a hillside, there's a drone shouting, Otis, get off this mountain, you piss!
We rule you!
It's just they want to peck on the regular producing tax.
jordan holmes
Is that Alexa?
paul joseph watson
Yeah, because they know that they're the only people who are going to obey this, and a lot of people in this country get off on being obedient to the government.
It kind of gives them like a sanctimonious ego boost.
alex jones
Exactly, so there's going to be no end to it.
Muslims will run around raping their daughters and just...
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
Buddy, a lot of people get off by being obedient, you know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
I mean, the message could not be more clear in this interview than what they're trying to do.
And it's disgraceful.
jordan holmes
I'm going to be as racist to everyone as possible.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, Alex has a big announcement, and it's something we sort of mentioned on our last episode, I believe, and that is that food orders are back on.
There's a pre-order thing now that you can have.
Alex talks about this a little bit.
This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard.
alex jones
We've got some good news.
My Patriot Supply is partnered with us.
They run our servers and take the orders.
So when you order from the full spectrum of their food, you get the best deal.
You go right in the queue, right where your order comes in.
They had so many orders two weeks ago that they had enough food to fulfill those orders, but not more food going forward.
Well, they got a bunch of food bought, and they got two more factories fired up.
So that's six factories now that have the FDA inspectors in them, everything.
So that's a big deal to do that.
dan friesen
I don't know about that, but I would say that this narrative is fucked, because where'd they get that food from?
Where they get this mystery, surprise, giant amounts of food.
jordan holmes
You make it in a factory.
You build two more factories, and then you suck the food out from the ground like an oil derrick.
dan friesen
I thought the premise was that everyone else is out of food.
jordan holmes
Everybody's out of food.
dan friesen
If everyone was out of food, then are these suppliers specifically only willing to sell to my Patriot supplier?
unidentified
Of course they are.
dan friesen
If so, then they would have had a relationship where they would have known, like, oh, we can get way, way more food.
This clog in the drain never would have happened.
This bottleneck wouldn't have happened.
I just don't believe any of this.
jordan holmes
It's not.
True.
It's just not true.
dan friesen
But it is one of those things that the food buckets are certainly something, like I've mentioned, they're compatible to a bunch of different conspiracy panic narratives.
So if Alex is able to bring that back online, he can still push that even with the virus is no big deal.
They're going to cause cities to burn.
jordan holmes
They're going to lock you down even if it's not a big deal.
You're going to be quarantined.
You've got to have food.
Everybody needs food.
dan friesen
So it's probably something that he was working to get back.
To be able to sell, because it's so evergreen.
I was going back and listening to episodes of Bill Cooper's show, and he's selling food buckets in the middle of the 90s.
It's just always going to be something.
It works with every panic.
jordan holmes
I give it a week before food buckets cure coronavirus.
dan friesen
Also, you remember back in the end of February, Alex predicted that Roger Stone would be back hosting the War Room within a week?
jordan holmes
Don't.
dan friesen
It hasn't happened.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
I was so scared that he was back.
dan friesen
The word prediction dislodged that in my brain.
I wanted to make a point of how bad that prediction was.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's pretty brutal.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, Alex retells the timeline of what's happened over the last while.
And it's really sad, because he's just trying to make Trump look good.
jordan holmes
He doesn't even succeed at doing that.
dan friesen
Well, you can hear him really trying to come up with...
The next step.
It's like him running across a little bridge or whatever.
You know when you're a kid and you're crossing a creek and you're jumping from rock to rock?
You can see him trying to find the next rock to jump to.
alex jones
Mike Adams on this show was the first guy to really raise the alarm and I agreed with him that clearly the Democrats knew it was bad.
They were saying it wasn't dangerous to make sure it got here.
Trump bought into that because Fauci told him don't worry back then.
He then didn't want to scare people.
He said, well, it might kill some folks, but it'll be okay.
Then they flipped and said, it's all your fault.
We knew that was coming, warned Trump.
So then he did respond.
Now, though, he understands if we overpanic, it'll be too far, which is the Democrats' plan again all along.
This has been a very scripted setup, Paul.
dan friesen
You can hear him just, like, trying to figure out how to complete a sentence.
All that's made up.
And how does that work with Alex's whole idea about the secret emergency declaration that Trump made way back?
jordan holmes
Don't worry about the secret emergency declaration.
That was Fauci.
Everything is Fauci's fault.
Blame Fauci!
dan friesen
I want to imagine for a second that what Alex is saying is true.
Even if all of that's true, Trump is a horrible president.
Alex is trying to whitewash away all of Trump's very clear fuck-ups by insisting that it wasn't Trump.
Trump is perfect and always does the right thing, but he has globalists lying to him and tricking him all the time.
Even if that's true, which it's not, Trump is a gullible idiot whose inability to understand the situation he's in is putting people's lives at risk.
jordan holmes
Right, but he's also a genius because he's tricking them at the same time by getting tricked.
dan friesen
Even in Alex's best case scenario where Trump is this heroic figure, he's still wildly unfit to be president.
jordan holmes
If you're that easily influenced and you're the greatest thing ever, then what are you talking about, Alex?
He's still an idiot.
dan friesen
So Alex is still pushing the hydroxychloroquine can help everybody thing.
And largely it's still in service of the fact that it supposedly helps put zinc into cells and Alex sells zinc.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
Similar word?
It's going to help me sell things.
So he's mad because some governors have come out and they're not thrilled with people getting unnecessary prescriptions for it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, people killing themselves.
alex jones
They're losing control.
The Democrats are everywhere.
They've had now 10 governors I saw this morning have ordered all Democrats that no doctor prescribe hydroxychloroquine.
dan friesen
There's no way that governors would ever outright ban the prescribing of hydroxychloroquine because it's an important medication for people with certain conditions.
It's just not appropriate to prescribe for coronavirus cases necessarily.
jordan holmes
Important word there.
Certain.
dan friesen
Right.
Alex is most likely just reporting on a meme that was circulating from Turning Point USA that claimed that Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak had banned the use of hydroxychloroquine.
In reality, Governor Sisolak had just issued an emergency regulation that made it so you can't get a prescription for it in outpatient settings if it's for coronavirus.
Right.
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, who Trump doesn't like, made a similar rule, as did Cuomo in New York, and Ohio Governor Mike DeWine, quote, authorized the State Board of Pharmacy to file an emergency rule, which made it so people could not fill hydroxychloroquine prescriptions unless they had a written diagnosis on them from the prescriber, and if that diagnosis was coronavirus, it had to be confirmed.
I'm not sure what other states Alex is talking about, and Mike DeWine's a Republican, so he might just be making this stuff up.
The reason for these sorts of actions being necessary is that Trump and his dumb friends pretending that this drug was a miracle cure for an active pandemic, what that did is it made a run on the medication, which has created a shortage.
And this is a big problem, because while the drug is used to treat and prevent malaria, it's also used by people with rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.
Those are chronic conditions, and if people are panicking and running around buying up all the medications that are used to treat them, it leaves less medication for the people who actually need it.
These Republicans, both Republican and Democrat, are doing the only responsible thing they can do, which is restrict the prescribing of this medication as best they can.
To not do so would create a ridiculous amount of unnecessary suffering for people with arthritis and lupus, which is an unattended consequence.
Of the sort of irresponsible behavior that Alex and Trump are behaving in.
They don't care.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it really should.
Like, whenever he said that, if they weren't nice to him, he wouldn't take their calls.
That should have been an immediate, like, you're gone.
25th Amendment, get the fuck out of here.
That's unacceptable.
That's literally unacceptable.
dan friesen
It's a shakedown.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's evil.
That's comically...
Evil.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this sort of thing, it's like, you ask yourself the question of like, why haven't past presidents said things like, hey, this hydroxychloroquine looks like it's going to be a cure.
Why is that irresponsible?
And you recognize, oh, because people listen to people in leadership and authority positions.
They take them more seriously than maybe they should be.
And so people who have no reason to get this medication will go out and try and get the medication.
It'll lead to shortages.
And people who need the medication will possibly be left without.
And that is why you be careful.
I mean, there's other reasons.
Like that dude who died in Arizona.
But there are considerations that are just completely gone now from the minds of the people who are in positions of power.
jordan holmes
No, they're all insane.
They're all literally insane.
dan friesen
They're very clearly making a case for, like, why did those sort of norms and behaviors that seemed, like, unnecessary, why do people act like that?
Oh, that's why.
jordan holmes
That would make sense.
Yeah, there you go.
dan friesen
So, in our next clip here, we find Alex being very mad at Michael Rappaport.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Because Michael Rappaport has said some shit.
alex jones
Show actor.
Mike Rumport has savagely attacked me before, said he wants to, you know, that I'm ugly, that I'm evil, that he would be so glad I'm being censored.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Can you imagine being a biological android like this guy?
A meat suit.
And by the way, they're announcing Hollywood is officially collapsing.
This virus is a cover for the reset.
I mean, look at that gutter worm.
And he wants Barron to die.
jordan holmes
Barron Trump?
alex jones
Well, in the words of Emperor Palpatine, no, no, no, you will die!
dan friesen
In full disclosure, Michael Rappaport is a guy who has a long history of talking shit.
It's kind of his thing.
All Alex is saying, he's saying that Michael Rappaport said that Barron should get coronavirus, which, according to Alex, shouldn't be too big a deal.
Because he doesn't think it's a big deal.
jordan holmes
No, it'll kill you.
dan friesen
But this is apparently the most severely offensive thing a person could say.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
How dare you wish harm upon dear leader?
dan friesen
Rappaport was responding to Trump wanting to open businesses back up.
And the fuller quote is, Why don't you send your fucking son, Dick Stain Donald Trump Jr., Big Toothed Eric Trump, Little Fucking Baron, Fucking Ivanka, Junkyard Jared.
Let them go out there and test the fucking waters.
Let them see if this shit is sweet.
Let them take the cars, the trains, the buses, the Amtrak.
Let them play in the park.
And if everything's good after five days of them playing in the streets, we'll all go back.
So it wasn't just Barron.
It was more of a point about how Trump wants to do this thing that he's largely insulated from the consequences of and the rest of us will pay the price for.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But of course, Alex is in the business of selling agreement to his audience.
What better way to say this dumb actor wants to kill Trump's innocent child?
It's in my sentence here.
This is some dear leader shit.
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's not like you saw my notes.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's the exact response.
jordan holmes
It is absolutely that shit.
How dare you criticize him.
dan friesen
Very, very sad.
jordan holmes
We do not say ill of Chairman Mao in this house.
dan friesen
Or his son.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely not.
His son.
dan friesen
Any perceived attack on the family, Alex will present as an attack on the youngest, most innocent.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's done nothing wrong.
How dare you?
The children, Dan.
Won't somebody think of...
Dear leaders, children, not their own or anybody else's.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex gets into complaining more about Bill Ackman, that investor who he thinks is short-selling the market.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
News had come out that he made a bunch of money.
jordan holmes
So he's not mad at Jeff Bezos selling $3.7 billion?
dan friesen
I think he is, actually.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
Good.
dan friesen
Good.
But Alex is mad at Bill Ackman.
People have responded that probably the reason that he hates Bill Ackman is because Ackman had a negative position on Herbalife.
He believed it was a supplement pyramid scheme.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And so he's kind of an enemy of those, that sort of marketing and supplement industries.
jordan holmes
MLM guys.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And so that's why he hates Bill Ackman to begin with.
But Bill did make a bunch of money recently.
Sure.
And Alex believes that it's from short selling.
He has not proved that in any way.
I read a bunch of articles about this, and it turns out what actually happened is that Bill Ackman took out credit default swap insurance on some long positions that his hedge fund held, and they ended up paying off pretty well.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So it's not the same thing as short selling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex doesn't know the difference.
jordan holmes
It's still financial mumbo jumbo.
unidentified
Hey, man.
jordan holmes
I'm not defending this dude.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
I have no idea if any of the things that people do in the markets are ethical.
I do not.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with no.
dan friesen
I err on the side of no.
So I'm not defending Bill Ackman at all, but Alex doesn't know the difference between credit default swap insurance and short selling.
And so he's just like, blah, blah, blah.
He's short selling the market.
jordan holmes
Short selling is something that people are at least aware of.
dan friesen
So Alex gets back to selling his food a little bit.
alex jones
But our major food supplier, the only big one left that actually has high-quality food, had to suspend sales to be able to catch up and get all your orders out.
They were able to secure a lot of food they now have and turn on two big factories that are essential services.
Because a lot of other folks are just getting out of the business.
It's too volatile.
But it's their Christian...
jordan holmes
It's too volatile?
What?
dan friesen
That's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
That is preposterous.
dan friesen
I know that most businesses like to get out when demand is through the roof.
jordan holmes
As high as possible.
Now we gotta get out of here.
dan friesen
Look, I got into business hoping to build something and make profit, but now there's the opportunity.
I gotta get out of here.
I was kidding myself to think I could get into business.
jordan holmes
What was I thinking?
How dare I try and make...
dan friesen
That's comical.
jordan holmes
So they got a huge amount of storable food.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
While every other major food distributor, zero food.
dan friesen
And they can't handle the heat.
Gotta get out of the kitchen.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
They're getting out of business.
dan friesen
Fuck it.
Too volatile.
jordan holmes
So my Patriot Supply had to shut down production for a couple of weeks in order to shut down the...
dan friesen
Shut down allowing Alex to sell their food.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And then after that, they caught up.
And they were the only ones able to secure a giant shipment of food?
They are good at business, Dan.
dan friesen
Probably because they're Christian egos.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
That sounds right.
Their discernment is probably what did it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex, in this next clip, talks about how, like, hey, you know, I predicted all this that's happening now.
And so I'm going to predict more things that are going to happen in the future.
And you know I'm always right.
And this is where we get introduced to a primary source that I think is actually really interesting.
alex jones
We don't just cover what's happening now, we cover what's coming.
I said three months ago, bioweapon attack to bring down the U.S. economy.
I know how they operate.
We have two articles here today.
London Guardian, former British Prime Minister, says world government needed to get rid of nation states to protect us from coronavirus.
Here's the Rockefeller Foundation 10 years ago openly saying in a major think tank that...
We're going to use a bio release to bring in world government.
So they're on record with all of this, ladies and gentlemen.
And this is their plan, so we know their next move, and it's going to be even more drastic.
So dig in and get ready.
Get your storable food today at InfoWarsStore.com.
unidentified
Boom.
jordan holmes
Nice.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Although that one's a good...
That was pretty good.
dan friesen
So Alex didn't necessarily predict a bioweapon release, unless you consider literally every stray thing he says to be a prediction.
He was way more focused on the globalists nuking a U.S. city, most likely Chicago.
Also, the coronavirus isn't a bioweapon, so even if that was his prediction, it's a dud.
So Alex references there at the end the Rockefeller Foundation, and I was curious what this specific source was.
Every time I've tried to trace down one of his primary sources on this we're-going-to-release-a-bioweapon-to-bring-in-world-government thing, it's been a huge disappointment, but I never run out of the benefit of the doubt.
Maybe this one will finally be the one that actually Alex read correctly.
So I went to the video for this episode, since he doesn't say what this report is or give any clue as to how to track it down.
But there isn't a good shot of the piece of paper he's holding up, which meant that this is a bit of a dead end.
Luckily for me, though, this is a huge talking point in the conspiracy community online, so it's pretty easy to figure out what this was.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is from a May 2010 report from the Rockefeller Foundation titled, quote, Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development.
It's 54 pages long, which is outside of Alex's half-paragraph reading limit.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
Can't do it.
dan friesen
So I do not believe he's read this.
jordan holmes
He quit.
dan friesen
Here's what this document is: the people who wrote the report were tasked with analyzing the technological and international development related issues that could come up in the world that could pose a challenge to philanthropic organizations, and particularly in the developing world.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
And the only way to solve those was with a bioweapon, I assume.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
They recognized that there were certain things that were certainties, such as population growth and energy interdependence.
But what the report was most interested in was exploring what they called critical uncertainties.
The report has a full list of the uncertainties in the appendix and they identified a bunch, things like new innovations or global economic performance.
Those are things that can't really be predicted and each has serious impact on what situation we will find ourselves in in the future.
However, the report authors were tasked with deciding which two critical uncertainties were most central to how things play out.
They determined that adaptive capacity was one, and that it could be a situation where we end up highly adaptive or with a low level of adaptability.
The other uncertainty that they chose was political and economic change.
You can see how the second one, political and economic alignment, is of particular interest to people in philanthropic organizations, particularly in developing countries.
So, with these two critical uncertainties selected, the team created four scenarios which represented a dramatized version of what the world might look like in each combination of these outcomes.
And specifically, what role technological innovation would play in each of the worlds they imagined.
jordan holmes
Right.
So, they wargamesed it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The high adaptability, weak alignment scenario was called smart scramble.
The high adaptability, strong alignment scenario was called clever together.
The low-adaptability-weak alignment scenario was hack attack, and the low-adaptability-strong alignment scenario is named lockstep.
jordan holmes
Is named fascism.
unidentified
Basically.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's what it's named.
dan friesen
Authoritarianism.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Yeah, yeah.
The second two are probably...
Hack attack doesn't have a positive.
dan friesen
It's clear that the ideal solution is clever together, or the world you would like to see that's most able to respond to challenges.
That's the one, if you read the report, is nothing in it is negative.
jordan holmes
Political bias.
Political bias, Dan.
Calling it Clever Together, they're trying to convince us.
dan friesen
It rhymes, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Clever Together is described as, quote, a world in which highly coordinated and successful strategies emerge for addressing both urgent and entrenched worldwide issues.
HackAttack is, quote, an economically unstable and shock-prone world in which governments weaken, criminals thrive, and dangerous innovations emerge.
SmartScramble is, quote, an economically depressed world in which individuals and communities develop localized, makeshift solutions to a growing set of problems.
LockStep is, quote, a world of tighter, top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback.
The websites that push this document as being about the Rockefeller Foundation planning to use a bioweapon to bring in a world government are inherently full of shit, because what they're doing is cherry-picking lines from the four different scenarios and pretending it's all one plan.
However, most of it is from the lockstep scenario, because that's the one where there's a rise of top-down authoritarian systems.
The authors of this report imagined that an instigating event for that scenario could be a global pandemic where the need for greater social structure to fight an outbreak could be exploited by leaders who want that kind of power.
It's presented as a not-good outcome.
jordan holmes
Do you mean, like, some sort of Department of Justice wanting to indefinitely detain people without worrying about them going to trial?
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
I was just thinking that, you know, just random, out-of-the-blue, just, like, thoughts that could never possibly happen.
dan friesen
Like I said, it's presented as a not-good outcome.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you don't want this.
Yeah.
And ultimately, in that scenario, there's no world government.
It's only dictators in many countries and some uneasy regional alliances with uneasy populations at the point of uprising.
That's where that scenario plays out to.
It doesn't end in a world government.
jordan holmes
No, it ends with the government in shambles, I believe, in rubble and fires.
dan friesen
Conspiracy sites like that the scenario starts with a pandemic, but it doesn't end the way they want it to.
It just doesn't make the point they want.
So they take bits and pieces out of each of the scenarios to create a collage of something that kind of sounds like something they can work with.
The clever together scenario involves global collective action about climate change.
So they toss that in there.
The problem is that literally none of these scenarios involve deploying a bioweapon, and none of them result in world government.
The only way to reach that conclusion is to completely twist the words on the page to the point where you might as well just be rewriting the report to suit your purposes, which is what they're doing.
jordan holmes
I don't like what this report says, but it does come from a place that I hate, so how about I just lie about it?
dan friesen
And one of the pieces of it does mention a bio!
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go!
dan friesen
A bio situation, not a bioweapon!
jordan holmes
Close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades.
dan friesen
I read over this document, and it in no way demonstrates that the Rockefeller Foundation admitted that they wanted to release a bioweapon to bring in a world government.
That's absolutely...
I will get my hopes up again next time.
jordan holmes
Good luck.
Also, I wish you the best.
dan friesen
You know how I keep mentioning that it's really popular on conspiracy theory sites?
It's not that popular.
I was kind of lying.
It's not that popular in the context Alex is using it.
However, the most prominent site pushing this narrative Is Jim Fetzer's blog.
unidentified
Hey!
dan friesen
So it might be the case that Alex is using his old Holocaust-denying buddy Fetzer as a source again, even though he's currently being sued for doing that in the Sandy Hook suit.
jordan holmes
Okay, so you say...
dan friesen
This guy is fucking dumb.
jordan holmes
Look, look, look, look.
You say it's a bad thing.
People say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again, expecting different results.
But they haven't met Fetzer.
He's too good.
dan friesen
He's not.
jordan holmes
He's too good, Dan.
dan friesen
I should be fair.
E. Michael Jones is also pushing this document.
unidentified
Wow!
dan friesen
So it might be that Alex has found a new Holocaust denier to be his source.
That is possible.
jordan holmes
Hey, anti-Semitism is a good fallback plan whenever anything is going bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So as Alex is going out to break, he cited this headline in this report, and he says this.
alex jones
Where is my article?
There it is.
Globless think tank laid out scenario where virus outbreak prompts authoritarian crackdown.
I want to get more into this, but first your phone call.
dan friesen
So he's going out to break.
He reads that other headline.
I think he's meaning to suggest that this globalist think tank is a different story than the one about the Rockefeller Foundation, but it's the same headline he just read, except it's the InfoWars write-up of the same document.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
This one is written by Adan Salazar, our former Twitter follower, and has a lot of the hallmarks of intentional lying.
For one, here's the first paragraph of his article.
jordan holmes
I'm a liar!
I lie all the time!
dan friesen
Might as well be.
Quote, a Rockefeller Foundation report produced 10 years ago imagined a viral pandemic as the perfect catalyst to implement, quote, tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership, eerily similar to what's unfolding during our current coronavirus outbreak.
jordan holmes
They also included that celebrities would all sing Imagine together.
dan friesen
That is in there.
The report doesn't imagine a viral pandemic as a perfect catalyst to implement tighter top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership.
That's an incredibly unfair characterization of the document because that framing suggests that they were trying to find a way to implement authoritarian leadership and the virus was the perfect way to do it.
jordan holmes
Instead of actively looking for a way to stop the authoritarian leadership.
dan friesen
That's just a complete misreading of the point of the document.
I'm not sure necessarily that it is actually even about stopping authoritarian leadership.
jordan holmes
Just an observation.
dan friesen
It's discussing...
If that is the world that ends up coming into being, what are the challenges that'll exist from a philanthropic developing world situation?
And most importantly, what are the ways in which technological innovation will be used in these four different types of society we find are So that's really what...
It's not about crushing the authoritarian system, and it is also most definitely not about how do we bring it into being.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's easy to forget that the Rockefeller Foundation is a charity.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And not a evil organization.
dan friesen
Well, you hear Alex say it so many times, so it must be true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
So the goal, like I touched on there, is discussing how technological progress would likely develop in these four distinct scenarios.
And the one that Adon and all of the right-wing dum-dums have glommed onto is the one that happens to be about how technology would possibly progress in a world where we have a low level of adaptability and a strong alignment between politics and the economy.
jordan holmes
The one that they're actively trying to bring about.
dan friesen
Well, Trump seems to be into it.
Yeah.
unidentified
The world the authors envisioned with those two qualities would be one with a more authoritarian bend to it.
dan friesen
And the pandemic setup was a creative flourish of how they decided to give that scenario a backstory.
These scenarios are meant to be thought-provoking and meant to prompt a conversation.
And as such, they're written hyper-dramatically.
Each one is given a needlessly intense backstory about how the circumstances of the world it depicts came into being.
For instance, the Hack Attack scenario starts like this.
Quote, devastating shocks like September 11th, the Southeast Asian tsunami of 2004 and the 2010 Haiti earthquake had certainly primed the world for sudden disasters.
But no one was prepared for a world in which large-scale catastrophes would occur with such breathtaking frequency.
The years 2010 to 2020 were dubbed the doom decade for a good reason.
The 2012 Olympic bombing, which killed 13,000, was followed closely by an earthquake in Indonesia, killing 40,000, a tsunami that almost wiped out Nicaragua, and the onset of the West China famine, which caused a once-in-a-millennium drought linked to climate change.
The goal of this scenario is to create a world that is full of chaos, where the power of governments is weakened and adaptability is low.
This is the story they decided to use to launch into that.
And it's built on some real things, like the disasters that happened prior to the report's writing in 2010, and then they augment it with fictitious real-world events, like the Olympic bombing that didn't happen in 2012.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, I didn't remember that one.
dan friesen
No.
The things that are used as pieces of the world they're building feel sort of real, though, because they're plausible.
There was a bomb at the Olympics in 1996 Indonesia had a gigantic 9 plus earthquake in 2004 that left over 200,000 people dead Nicaragua was the site of a notable tsunami in 1992 China does have a history of severe drought Right.
writing the report.
But they're things that could happen in the real world.
Yeah.
unidentified
Any of those things could happen.
dan friesen
But if they did, it would have no bearing on the intention or predictiveness of the writing of the report.
The same is true of the virus pandemic that's the setup for the scenario that the conspiracy right wing is obsessed with.
It is a viral outbreak which relies on the H1N1 pandemic from the previous year, 2009 in this case, and establishing it as a detail.
The report says that China would be successful in squashing the outbreak in their country by instituting a harsh lockdown.
This isn't a prediction of the present as much as it is a reflection of what they did in 2002 and 2003 during the SARS outbreak.
They didn't have to go as far in the outbreak in 2002-2003, but according to Lancet, China best exemplified this large-scale quarantine by declaring epidemic zones and placing people under collective quarantines in villages, cities, and institutions.
The stringent control measures included school closures and closures of all universities and public places, as well as the cancellation of a public holiday in May.
In May 2003, China locked down Beijing and closed more than 3,500 public places in an effort to curb community spread.
The report is using things that have happened in the past to give life to the scenarios they're creating in order to discuss the issues of technological innovation and how it relates to the central question of the report, which is literally, quote, How might technology affect barriers to building resilience and equitable growth in the developing world over the next 15 to 20 years?
It's clear.
The way Adan Salazar is writing about this report makes me think that he has read it, which means that he's intentionally lying about it.
One of the excerpts he uses in the article really makes me feel confident that he's read it.
In the article, he says, quote, governments have a...
This is quoting from the report.
jordan holmes
From the report, not from a...
dan friesen
Well, his article, quoting from the report.
unidentified
Right, right, right, gotcha.
dan friesen
Quote, governments have varying degrees of success in policing internet traffic, but those efforts nevertheless fracture the World Wide Web, the scenario envisions.
Here's the full quote from the report.
Quote, In the report, this is not a good thing.
The report is literally about how technology can be used to help the developing world.
And in this scenario, one of the predicted technological developments is a destruction of the worldwide nature of the web and called countries.
Creating their own isolated and insulated internets.
jordan holmes
Which is going to hurt innovation because they're not allowed to share it outside of their country.
dan friesen
Low adaptability.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
No one who's read this report could possibly read that description of tech in this scenario and think that the authors of the report considered this a desirable outcome or something that they would be working towards.
You legitimately have to be lying to reach that conclusion, which Adon is doing.
And Alex is then repeating.
jordan holmes
Nah, it's what they don't say, Dan.
They have to release their plan and act like it's not their plan in order to make sure that you know that it's their plan, which allows them to carry out their plan.
Because as dark demons, they have to agree.
It's like you can't let a vampire in your house unless you invite them in.
It's the exact same thing with the globalists.
You can't enact a global pandemic if you don't first tell people that you're going to.
dan friesen
I mean, I think Alex probably does believe that.
jordan holmes
I think he does, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, to reach the conclusions that they're reaching from this, I understand why Alex is reaching that conclusion.
That's because he's just reading these dumb blogs that say this.
But people like Adan Salazar are clearly reading this document in order to cherry pick these quotes from it.
So he has to either be unable to read, On an adult level.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
Certainly.
I don't think that's the case, though.
But you would have to be able to not engage with what the point of this document is at all, or you have to intentionally be lying about it.
Or both, to an extent, but I think probably the latter.
I think it's all just complete lies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, especially when your boss is not interested in things that won't help him and his narratives.
He's not going to be like, oh, read this and write me up something, and do it with whatever your conclusions are.
He's starting from a place of like, I need this to be evil.
dan friesen
Hey, Adon, can you cover this responsibly for me?
Can you do a good job on this one?
Like, really, don't go off the reservation and get real.
Don't get sensational.
jordan holmes
Who are you?
Who are you?
What did you do with Alex?
dan friesen
Hey, look, I want you to go buy the book on this one.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
If you need help, call someone at the Washington Post.
jordan holmes
Okay, I know you've never taken a journalism class before in your life, but this time, this time, Adon, you gotta step it up!
dan friesen
Yeah, ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex gets into talking about how Trump is real, and then this gets real weird.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Trump's real, folks.
Why do you think they're so damn scared?
But I'm gonna explain something.
jordan holmes
Because he's insane!
alex jones
A rattlesnake's real.
A black widow's real.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
alex jones
A rose is real.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
A piece of gold's real.
A Beethoven symphony's real.
There's good and bad in the world, but Trump's his own man.
He really calls the shots.
You know how pissed the globalists are?
That there's a dude in there that isn't out to get America.
Just like Vladimir Putin.
Vladimir Putin's a Russian.
He likes Russia.
He likes the Orthodox Church.
He doesn't like the globalists and the left.
dan friesen
That is as out of nowhere as it seems.
jordan holmes
Wait, he...
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
That was, like, real out of my field.
unidentified
What did he just say?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Do we have to give it up to the Somali pirates?
What is happening?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's not uncommon for Alex just to heap praise on Putin, but, like, it's...
That was even jarring for me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As someone who's heard Alex praise Putin for a while, that was still, like, what?
What are you doing?
What's going on?
What's the...
jordan holmes
Anyway, and if he calls the shot, if Trump calls the shots, then he has to take responsibility for what happened.
dan friesen
No, that's because globalists lied to him.
Don't worry about it.
jordan holmes
No, but he calls the shots.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you can only call shots when globalists aren't lying to you.
But the buck stops.
unidentified
The buck stops.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
I also think that being like, hey man, Trump's real.
Black widows are real.
Rattlesnakes are real.
jordan holmes
What does that mean?
dan friesen
So you're saying that Trump might kill us.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yes, there are good and bad things, but he's real.
Unlike fake things, which won't kill you?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I guess I would rather a slick, fake politician who's good at policy and means well than a guy who 50-50...
He's real, but 50-50 chance he will kill all of us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And even with a rose, you know, like, hey...
Thorns will cut you, but also it's beautiful on top.
There's a certain metaphor.
dan friesen
I don't crave authenticity that badly.
jordan holmes
Okay, sure, sure, I have a guaranteed income and universal health care.
But this guy, this guy is...
Fake as shit.
dan friesen
This guy pretends to like various things, but he doesn't really.
jordan holmes
He doesn't really.
dan friesen
It's just to look good in public.
jordan holmes
He said he was in the first Radiohead show, and that's fucking not true.
dan friesen
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
I was on the bandwagon with Radiohead before he was.
He's a faker!
dan friesen
I mean, authenticity in friends and associates and...
I mean, even maybe artists you like is probably a conversation that's worth having.
I'm not sure.
It's not my top thing in a politician.
jordan holmes
You know, I think when you say...
dan friesen
Obviously, I don't want a full-on liar.
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, when you're like, oh man, I gotta be honest, I like this guy because I know where he stands.
That is also a, I don't like this guy.
Because I know where he stands.
Just because I know where you stand doesn't mean that I don't want you to run as far away from me as you possibly can.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
It's disgusting.
dan friesen
So Alex has a philosophy that he explains in this next clip.
It's very weird.
alex jones
Hollywood hates you.
The left hates you.
The globalists want to dominate you.
They are psychotics.
And so people come to me, and I only talk about this so people understand philosophy, and this is the winning philosophy.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
It's a spirit.
They hate it.
Overcomer.
And they go, what's it like to be persecuted?
Oh, you're attacked so much.
Oh, we feel so sorry for you.
And I tell friends and family, I say, knock it off.
I am blessed.
All I want is the listeners to keep us in the fight.
dan friesen
So it's, I need your money.
jordan holmes
I just want money.
I have a philosophy and it's simple.
Whatever it is they're doing is bad and I want your money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That actually is.
dan friesen
That's an in-depth philosophy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is.
dan friesen
I like how he's presenting this like, it is a philosophy that I only talk to with people who get it.
And then he says something he says all the fucking time, which is, hey, people come up to me and they say, how are you doing under this attack?
I say, I love it.
That's not some kind of weird thing that he plays close to the best.
jordan holmes
He only tells that to people who understand philosophy.
dan friesen
Talks about it all the goddamn time.
So anyway, Alex starts freaking out about the devil.
alex jones
And it's not work to fight evil.
The more you do it, the stronger you get and the more high on the fight you get in a good way of love and of justice.
But it's not a feeling of power that we're overpowering the globalist.
But it is power.
Trillion times the power they could ever imagine but was restrained.
And then you realize it's nothing but a micron reflection of the creator and then you feel the awesome presence of God and then the power doesn't matter anymore because you're on your knees.
And to be on your knees before the creator in awe is to be ready to fight the devil because the devil's a joke that'll be brushed aside.
But...
The devil will be brushed aside by those of us who will be thrown against Satan and broken.
And it is a real blessing to have God pick you up and just throw you headlong into Satan's armies.
There's not a better feeling.
I'm not a masochist.
I don't like pain.
But that's the type of pain I'll take.
If God helps me politically take out a million or two million of the globalists, then I don't mind being torn.
jordan holmes
Did you release COVID?
alex jones
And my eyeballs gouged out and my teeth ripped out.
And my blood sucked out by a giant black spider.
I've seen the evil.
unidentified
I've faced it.
alex jones
I've gone through it.
And all I found was victory on the other side.
jordan holmes
I don't think you made it to the other side, buddy.
alex jones
The enemy.
For all the temporal attacks has sent spiritual attacks against me.
And in the name of Jesus, it all instantly departs and is vanquished and is weak.
But I've been shown the depths of Satan by the Creator.
jordan holmes
You have.
alex jones
I've been dropped like a bathoscape into a sea of pure Satanism to actually be able to know the enemy's mind and to be able to fight the enemy.
And only now am I beginning to have the strength.
To even step up into the armor of truth and justice with the sword of God to bring down the enemy.
dan friesen
That pause was necessary.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he wanted a better sword out of that.
dan friesen
That wasn't really all that interesting, and there's not a whole lot to even discuss about that, but I wanted to play that to help the audience feel...
This episode.
There's minutes more of that.
This rant that he's in the middle of, like, really weirdly just like, oh, I have been thrown into the depths of evil.
jordan holmes
I like that.
I think he listened to my televangelist episode.
I feel kind of proud.
He got the wrong lesson, but I like it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, when he says that he's been attacked in the real world and also spiritual world and all the spiritual things go away in the name of Jesus.
jordan holmes
Spiritual is easy.
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
I mean, the court ones aren't going to go away.
jordan holmes
No, they are not going to go away.
I like the spiritual battle.
dan friesen
So cherish those spiritual victories because the rest are not going to be great.
jordan holmes
Temporal victories are going to escape you.
dan friesen
So Alex will eventually be sucked dry by a giant spider.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I think...
Like, his family is probably, like, his kids aren't going to school.
I don't know if they're homeschooled or if they go to public school.
I've heard him say both in the past, so I have no idea what the real situation is.
But maybe the families around the house, maybe they watched Wild Wild West, and he's just obsessed with this big giant spider thing.
But Spider's going to suck him dry, and apparently all of his enemies, they have already been sucked dry by the spider.
There's a spider on the loose.
unidentified
Wait, then how are enemies still attacking him if they've been sucked dry?
Because they're husks.
dan friesen
Their souls live inside the spider.
unidentified
That's fair.
jordan holmes
My bad.
alex jones
So you look at the hunchback devils that serve Satan and how their eyes are dim and how they have no humanity in them and realize we shouldn't hate them.
Those are like little bugs in a spider's web that are just husk.
They're dead.
They were already sucked out.
They're already gone.
They live in the spider's belly now forever.
They believe the spider was their mother and was there to give them milk.
They believe the spider was going to give them power.
They believe they were going to be a spider.
But all they ever were was another slave taken away from God's light who by free will, like a child, tricked out of their backyard to get in that white ice cream truck.
To be taken away forever.
dan friesen
Into the spider.
alex jones
To have their souls stolen forever.
jordan holmes
Good movie.
alex jones
And to meet oblivion.
It's a sad thing indeed.
Alright, we're going to go to break.
I'm going to stop pontificating.
We're going to go right to your phone calls when we come back in two minutes.
And there's just so much more of this.
I mean, look at these rocks.
I mean, I knew about this.
You knew about this.
It's in films.
But I'm like, hey, the globalists have white papers where they say they're going to use a bio-attack to bring in world government authoritarianism.
Ten years ago, Rockefeller Foundation.
Big article up on Infowars.com.
dan friesen
So this is that same Rockefeller report.
And it really raises the question of why are you just talking about this now?
I mean, he's been talking about the idea that the globalists, you know, they're going to attack everybody and blah, blah, blah, and all this to bring in a martial law or whatever.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But he hasn't talked about this specific document.
jordan holmes
Well, that's because they were 10 years behind, and it turns out they're not 10 years behind anymore.
dan friesen
He's newly very obsessed with this document that's been around a while.
I think maybe he just found about it by reading Jim Fetzer's blog.
Anyway, it's just like...
This is sloppy.
And even if he'd been talking about this forever, even if he'd been talking about this specific reference, the source, forever, it doesn't prove what he's saying it does.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
He is sad.
jordan holmes
This is the most researched show in history.
dan friesen
Well, he's researched that fucking spider.
jordan holmes
He knows a bit about...
You know, the thing that I despise about his theology is that he is always so obsessed with physical appearance that demons are always physically ugly.
When it's like, literally, it's just so much as like, you're going to be tempted by beautiful things.
Those are the ones that are scary.
dan friesen
That theme does play out in a lot of old texts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's kind of a big deal.
dan friesen
So Alex hasn't read this Rockefeller report.
I'm certain of it.
And the way he discusses some of the details, like he's reading off a little bit, like it's so clear that he is unfamiliar with this text.
alex jones
It's called Lockstep.
A world of tighter, top-down government control and more authoritarian leadership with limited innovation and growing citizen pushback.
Rockefeller Foundation.
dan friesen
That's a big tell to me that all Alex has done is skimmed Don Salazar's article.
Because if he'd read the actual report, he would know that limited technological innovation and growing citizen pushback are examples of bad elements of the lockstep scenario that they do not want.
It would make philanthropic work in developing a world more difficult.
It would be a situation where you wouldn't be able...
To help people in a way that is your mission.
jordan holmes
Right.
But he doesn't think their mission is to help people.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
In his estimation, their mission is to destroy the world.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So it makes a certain sense for him to believe that Lockstep is their plan because they want all of that.
dan friesen
That's stupid.
jordan holmes
I guess?
dan friesen
It's dumb.
jordan holmes
That's stupid.
dan friesen
And it actually helps Alex to have not read it because then he doesn't have to answer that question.
Because it would be very difficult.
jordan holmes
That would be a hard one.
dan friesen
Even me trying to imagine how Alex would, as a joke, have a difficult time.
That would be a part of it.
So Alex gets back from break and he has a complaint.
He goes to some calls.
I'm not entirely sure if this was in a call, but he has some complaints about what's going on.
alex jones
No, no, no doubt the globalist banks are...
And Mike Adams made that point yesterday when he was hosting or was it Wednesday?
The globalist banks are nationalizing everything.
They're taking over the planet right now using these crises.
I totally agree with you.
dan friesen
So if Alex is mad about globalist banks trying to nationalize companies in the midst of a crisis, I have some bad news about what his buddy Trump said.
The Associated Press reported on March 19th about Trump's press conference where he was discussing the bailouts for industries like hotels and airlines.
Quote, asked if his...
If he supported the federal government moving to take an equity stake in some companies, Trump said, quote, I do.
I really do.
Also in that article, they discuss how Attorney General Bill Barr had commented that the US should consider taking a controlling stake in Nokia or Ericsson to be able to compete with China's Huawei.
I'm not really sure I necessarily oppose some nationalization of industries, but Alex definitely should be against it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you would think.
dan friesen
He was furious when the Obama government took a stake in General Motors after bailing out the auto industry, so I have no idea why he isn't just as upset about Trump indicating that he wants to do the same thing.
Except I do.
The reason is because Alex is a principle-less hack.
His hero does all the things he says the villains do, and in order to continue pretending his racist-ass idiot hero is a hero, he just pretends someone else is doing it.
Trump says he wants the government to take a controlling stake in airlines.
Alex reports it as globalist banks nationalizing everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there you go.
unidentified
Woohoo!
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's easy.
It's very simple.
It's not hard.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
He's just, it's like he...
dan friesen
So goddamn dumb.
jordan holmes
It's like he writes down all the stuff that he hates.
That Trump is doing and then just crosses out Trump and is like, all right, what are we going to Mad Libs in here this time?
I'm going to go with Fauci did it.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex gets a call from Australia and this dude is maybe my hero.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And not because I agree with what he's saying, but this guy knows how to use whatever window of time you have on Infowars.
unidentified
I'm a musician, obviously out of work now.
They closed down all the pubs here.
And I'm also a two-star executive with the InfoWars Health team, too, as well.
So I've been honored to be using the products and, you know, helping out InfoWars as well at the same time.
alex jones
Absolutely.
The great Yongevity products at InfoWarsHealth.com are very popular in the land down under.
That's awesome.
unidentified
Yes, correct.
And if you want to get in contact with me, I'm involved with Alex and Ted Anderson.
We can support.
dan friesen
So he is in the MLM, but he's not promoting Alex's products necessarily.
He's trying to drive the traffic to his distribution tendril of the MLM.
jordan holmes
That's very clever.
dan friesen
Smart.
jordan holmes
I like that.
How is that not what all the other MLM people have been doing?
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
I mean, why aren't they calling in and being like, hey!
dan friesen
Promoting Alex's MLM by virtue of funneling them to themselves.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That's brilliant.
dan friesen
It's a win-win.
jordan holmes
That is brilliant.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So not only does this...
jordan holmes
I mean, being in a MLM is incredibly stupid.
dan friesen
No, but if you're going to be, this is a good strategy.
jordan holmes
This is the way to do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Make the most of your time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's what they call in wrestling, getting all your shit in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, you've got a 30-minute match.
We've got to get all the moves in.
Let's get in there.
It's going to be...
jordan holmes
Short period of time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Just do the moves.
jordan holmes
Bang, bang, bang.
dan friesen
Do the moves.
jordan holmes
Get out.
dan friesen
And so this caller, he's getting his shit in.
Listen to this.
This is also what he manages to get in.
unidentified
And I'd love to give a...
Shout out to my friend Nick Raven from Conspiracy Oz.
He's been doing a podcast for 10 plus years.
I was a guest on his podcast last week.
And I'd say Endgame is your fine bottle of wine, my friend.
jordan holmes
He is too good.
dan friesen
Too good.
Alex can't be mad because he plugged Endgame at the end, but because of that, he gets away with plugging his friend's podcast.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he had five seconds to get that in there to buy himself another 25 seconds.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
He was doing the podcast thing, and he was like, uh-oh, I know it's going to be up, and Endgame is incredible, and now I'm going to promote something else of mine.
That's good.
dan friesen
That's good stuff.
So Alex gets another caller, and this caller actually is a really interesting thing because it gets disrupted in the middle, and you'll forget that he has this guy on hold.
I guarantee it.
But this caller is terrified because he got a letter.
unidentified
I live in the middle of nowhere, Montana, Alex.
And it's the Sanders County Election Administrator.
My father's 93 years old.
He's a World War II vet.
and I spent the last Good job, Dave.
me.
Notice of polling place election and option for mail ballot.
How dare they?
I'm going to scan this and I'm going to send a show tips.
You know, your guys, I just wasn't ready, you know.
alex jones
By the way, always cc it to David Knight because the crew's great, but David tends to break a lot of the whistleblower stuff we get and a lot of the tips.
He's really Johnny on the spot.
dan friesen
This is a whistleblower?
jordan holmes
Yeah, he got a letter.
dan friesen
But you also, if you listen to his story, it's an option to mail in ballet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Whistleblowing.
jordan holmes
That's how they do it.
That's insane.
dan friesen
I heard that and I was like...
What weren't you ready for?
jordan holmes
He just wasn't ready for it.
Mail-in balloting.
He wasn't ready for it.
dan friesen
What is the story?
jordan holmes
Wait until there's an election day holiday.
Man, can you imagine how unready this guy's going to be for that?
Oh, it's going to be real bad.
unidentified
Are you saying I don't have to work and I can vote?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Alex has to go to break so they get cut off.
And when he comes back from break, he has now learned that he has been kicked off the android.
App Store.
And it turns out that that is breaking in the middle of the show.
But because of that, he now has to pretend that that stuff earlier wasn't in response to him losing this appeal.
He has to sort of pretend that it's like...
jordan holmes
He's going to update his narrative mid-stream?
dan friesen
Well, no, it's more like he now has that awareness, although obviously he was responding to it earlier.
So he's able to bring it up now because he's sort of pretending that they're all piling on in the middle of his show.
alex jones
Man, you want to talk about...
Twilight Zone, folks.
They just announced their monthly thing that I'm losing lawsuits because they filed like 30 of them on me.
There's still like six of them active and we're battling it all in the appeals court before it ever even gets in front of one of their kangaroo courts or juries.
And they're pissed about that.
And so it's always, Jones losing.
Jones losing.
And most of the time, I've not even lost a lawsuit.
There's not even a lawsuit they're talking about sometimes.
Jones lost a lawsuit for the book.
Nobody died at San Diego.
I'm not in the book.
Never read the book.
My lawyers have.
The AP just says I lost a suit.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
Because I'm a loser, not a winner.
jordan holmes
That's true.
alex jones
No such winners.
dan friesen
So now he's able to respond to this a little bit because there's another story and now he's pretty mad.
Yeah.
And so...
He gets to talking about getting kicked off the Android.
And I gotta be honest with you, Jordan.
There is no better way he could have played this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is a work of art.
jordan holmes
Alright, I'll buy it.
alex jones
When I read this new article that I'll cover after I take calls, Google bans InfoWars Android app.
They already banned the Apple and it was number one in news.
Google bans InfoWars Android app over coronavirus claim.
And then it quotes the video I got banned for with David Icke yesterday, where I said, this is an anti-human system, and under the Georgia Guidestones, under world government, they want to reduce world population to zero, and all of you that serve this are being deceived when you think you're going to be the few humans left.
Anti-human, non-human forces, the Bible talks about, wants to kill, steal, and destroy.
They quote that and say, that is coronavirus disinformation.
So my religious belief that the devil's real, they actually say isn't allowed.
You gotta read this, man.
dan friesen
This is great.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
That's awesome.
jordan holmes
That is fucking stupid.
dan friesen
It's stupid, but that's the best way to do this.
jordan holmes
Turn that into a religious freedom.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what you gotta do.
dan friesen
I mean, it's not true, but that is the right plan.
So the headline he's reading is from Wired, and the article is just a little different than he's presenting it.
In fairness, it does discuss his weird alien-slash-devil beliefs, saying, quote, in the video in question, Jones says that, quote, everybody dies under the New World Order except maybe one-tenth of one percent that believe that they're going to merge with machines and have made deals with this interdimensional thing that gave them all the technology.
You can't make a deal with these aliens, okay, that the Bible tells you about and you can get off the planet.
Alex wants to put down his concrete...
That his religious belief is that there's evil aliens that serve an interdimensional thing that gives away technology.
I guess that's his choice.
jordan holmes
Because he's a Christian, Dan.
dan friesen
I guess that's his choice.
If that's what he wants, I'm not going to judge him for it.
Either way, the very next sentence in the article is, quote, Elsewhere in the video, Jones claims that natural antivirals exist to treat the novel coronavirus.
jordan holmes
There we go.
That's the one that they're more interested in, buddy.
dan friesen
When the headline is about how the coronavirus misinformation was what caused the ban, That's the really important part of the article, which is why Alex pretends here that it doesn't exist.
The stuff about being afraid of demon aliens is really just in that article to make fun of Alex.
But again, I have to say this is a great play for Alex.
It's completely baseless and he's just making stuff up, but his audience will almost certainly believe that he's being persecuted for his deeply Christian belief in demon aliens who give you technology.
Also, Alex's app never went to number one on iTunes.
It was number one in the trending section briefly.
So, this isn't going to work.
Because Alex accidentally reads the rest of the article.
jordan holmes
Why did he do that?
dan friesen
He hasn't read the whole thing at this point.
So he eventually realizes, oh, that's not what they're saying.
But it's a really good initial thing, and he probably should have stuck with it.
jordan holmes
He shouldn't have kept reading.
Why would you do that?
dan friesen
No, it was a mistake.
jordan holmes
You've got your deflection.
Call it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he eventually is like, oh, they're just mad because I said quinine in tonic is good for you.
Like, okay, whatever.
It becomes much worse.
It's boring.
Being like, this is my defensive, my religious right to believe in demon aliens.
And you're suppressing me for it.
jordan holmes
That's the stuff.
dan friesen
That's the better one.
jordan holmes
That'll cut around all kinds of logical thinking.
You get that in front of religious people and they'll be like, I can't think any, no rationality!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex, before he accidentally reads the rest of this piece, he touches back on the Sandy Hook sanction situation.
And it's just a fake story.
alex jones
We didn't even appeal some sanctions the Democrat judge did, who's best friends with the lady on the appeals court, at the local appeals court, not the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
Are you a fucking kindergartner?
alex jones
And we didn't even appeal sanctions that if we lose the case down the road, we would have to pay for some legal fees or something.
They just recycle that story again and go, Jones has to pay more legal fees.
They report on the same legal fees every couple weeks.
It's just the same story.
jordan holmes
Well, you haven't paid them yet.
dan friesen
And you keep appealing them.
alex jones
Not true.
dan friesen
And losing.
jordan holmes
You're the one!
alex jones
But I was checking that latest thing because the press is calling me during the break.
Let me type my name into Google.
unidentified
Oh!
alex jones
The popular five-star rated Infowars.
App is banned.
dan friesen
That wasn't in the article.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
And then you read the offending material and it says because Jones said that there are humans on the planet that have made a deal with extraterrestrials to set up a kill grid and take out humanity.
Then I'm banned for that.
Why would you ban somebody for that?
dan friesen
Because it didn't.
But that's still what he's presenting, and that's good.
unidentified
Stick with this.
dan friesen
But he even has to realize it's too much bullshit.
He can't even let this stand, which sucks.
I want the Alex that actually is like, fuck it, I said it, I'm sticking with it.
But, like I said, he accidentally starts reading the article, and he's like, ah, fuck.
alex jones
You can't make a deal with these aliens, okay?
That the Bible tells you about and ever get off the planet.
dan friesen
Stop.
Stop reading.
alex jones
Elsewhere in the video, Jones claims that the natural antivirals exist to treat the novel coronavirus.
jordan holmes
And deflated.
alex jones
I'm not selling vitamin C. I mean, I got products it's in.
jordan holmes
Go back to the religious shit.
alex jones
Or zinc.
jordan holmes
Now you're defensive.
You lose.
dan friesen
Yep.
alex jones
Or, what's the end?
Tonic.
Quinine.
That's what's called a tonic.
dan friesen
This is so boring now.
Wow.
Getting really defensive about how his religion is based on alien demons and they give away technology and people take DMT to commune with the demons.
If you wanted to really go hard in that lane, that's good.
I'll stick around for that.
This show will turn into fucking Project Camelot in no time.
But now you're retreating back to these waters of like...
jordan holmes
Quinine is actually good.
I like tonic.
dan friesen
It's so boring and standard.
And he gets into like...
I'll say, generally, as a whole, not interested in it.
Though there is one angle that Alex takes that I think is pretty good, and that is all these people out there that are trying to tell you that chloroquine is not the miracle cure, they're trying to extinguish your hope.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
CPAs, man!
dan friesen
It's a really interesting angle, and a bad one.
alex jones
That's how the censorship works, folks, and now you can't even...
Democrats say that, hey, there's hope.
And you have all these governors saying doctors can't prescribe the hydroxychloroquine because they don't want you to have hope, the Democrats.
dan friesen
Democrats don't want you to have hope.
jordan holmes
Now, it's not going to help anything.
dan friesen
There's a chance it could, but it's not proven.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Other people need the medication for things that are proven.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And people are causing shortages because of blind, baseless hope.
Dangerous hope, perhaps one might say.
And it's not Democrats.
Mike DeWine's a Republican.
Grow up.
jordan holmes
It's all Democrats.
And if he's doing it, that means he's a secret Democrat.
Damn.
dan friesen
I'm sure Alex would say that.
jordan holmes
Anybody who doesn't do the things that I specifically want to do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Are my enemies!
dan friesen
So this is how Alex responds to this news of the android thing.
And it's like, it's so promising with the religious freedom angle.
And then it just deflates and it's boring.
jordan holmes
You can feel him deflate too.
You felt it.
He went...
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
And it's so clear that he hadn't read it before he did on air.
God, just do better.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's not a confident reader.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
Nor do I have confidence in his reading.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So he rambles a bit about this, sort of around the same themes.
Like, I didn't even appeal.
They're just fake stories about my sanctions.
Oh, hey, I like quinine.
I don't sell it.
Who cares?
Now, it's a long ramble.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I imagine so.
There is a guy on hold.
Holy shit!
I did forget!
I thought...
dan friesen
God damn it!
jordan holmes
God damn it!
I swear to God, I was like, I'm going to keep this in my mind.
There's a guy on hold during this whole thing.
dan friesen
Who's scared about a letter.
jordan holmes
And then he did that, and I literally...
Oh, I hate you!
dan friesen
So Dave is still on hold.
And we get back to Dave.
jordan holmes
Come on, Dave.
alex jones
We've got two minutes to break.
Going back to Dave.
Dave, you were holding over, so just...
So, your 94-year-old World War II vet father, he gets this thing, and something, he gets this mail-in, or he gets this call to come vote, he gets this, I guess, voter guide or whatever it is, and you got something else.
Tell us what happened.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
Yeah.
All right.
This is an envelope dated March 25th.
alex jones
We got him.
dan friesen
What?
unidentified
And I live in the middle of nowhere, Montana.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Wait, is he mad that the Postal Service works?
dan friesen
No.
No.
He just thinks that there's a conspiracy about offering mail-in ballot options to people.
That is how they're going to steal the 2020 election.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
It's inevitable.
But here he talks about that a little bit more, and then I'll explain why this is dumb.
unidentified
I have power of attorney, so I get to open his mail.
They didn't send one to me, by the way.
They sent one to my father.
jordan holmes
Is that because he can't get out?
unidentified
Basically, it's registered.
jordan holmes
You're a sovereign citizen.
unidentified
The states that, you know, I want to mail in ballot because I'm scared of the coronavirus.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
No, that's good.
alex jones
That there's a huge demand for this so they can get it passed.
And that states begin prep for mail in voting and presidential election.
Then they pull his ballot out that's signed and then they just stick theirs in.
Yeah, that's their that's their secret weapon.
dan friesen
So, you want to know a fun fact?
In 2008, when Obama won the presidency, 2.4 million absentee ballots were cast.
In 2016, when Trump won, 8.2 million were cast.
The number tripled in those years, and yet somehow the votes weren't all secretly stolen by Dems, as Alex seems to think mail-in ballots are set up to be.
These fucking idiots are talking like today was the first day they heard about absentee voting.
How do they think the troops vote who are overseas?
jordan holmes
Their votes are stolen by Democrats.
Did you know that 97% of troops overseas vote for Democrats?
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
So these are things that have existed for a long time and work totally fine without any indication of any kind of fraud issues.
Suggesting that we use mail-in voting to help keep the election on pace is a very good idea that would work.
Every indication from states like Oregon, Washington, and Colorado bear this out.
This caller lives in Montana.
And guess what?
In the 2016 election, 64.6% of all votes cast were cast by absentee, mail-in, or early voting.
Trump won Montana with just over 56% of the vote.
The conspiracy here is incredibly stupid, but it's important to remember that it doesn't matter if the conspiracy makes sense.
They just need it to feel good in order for it to work.
The goal here is to invalidate the result of the 2020 election in case Trump loses.
There's a very good chance that we'll see an increase in write-in and absentee ballots, which is a good angle to build a narrative on.
It feels like mail-in ballots would be easier to steal and fake because neither this caller nor Alex know anything about the absentee voting process.
Because it feels that way, they can convey that feeling.
People who are into this kind of propaganda aren't looking into things, so they won't ever ask themselves if these feelings are based on any kind of reality, and the kernel of doubt will linger and grow.
This is legitimately just a wholesale repeat of the 10 million undocumented immigrants voted in the dead people's teams.
jordan holmes
I was just about to bring that up.
dan friesen
That's just the same thing.
jordan holmes
That's why Trump didn't win the popular vote.
Yeah, sure, he won the electoral college, but he also would have won the popular vote, probably by the largest margin in history, if it weren't for those undocumented immigrants voting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There always needs to be an angle, and these sorts of narratives are perfect.
If Trump loses, you now have an excuse for why he actually won, and you don't have to feel bad.
If Trump wins, you get to pretend that not only he won, he overcame a billion write-in votes or whatever.
There's no downside to playing a strategy like this, except that anyone who knows anything can easily recognize what you're doing.
But it doesn't matter, because it'll work with your audience.
jordan holmes
Man, these guys.
It's amazing.
unidentified
They are both, like...
jordan holmes
No matter what is going on, including if they are the ones actively carrying out voter suppression to steal an election, that is them, like, we're stealing an election.
dan friesen
Also, there are some cases of people who are working at polling stations who have tested positive for coronavirus.
So, like, the concerns here are...
Pretty legitimate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, when I went to vote and there were hundreds of people crammed into a small space.
dan friesen
And we still, you know, it's unclear what sort of consequences could have come from that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're already done.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex now gets down to talking to, he has a guest who runs a gun shop in Austin or in Texas somewhere, and he's not happy about the...
Guns not being considered essential businesses during the shutdown.
alex jones
Michael Cargill's got to be a good friend of mine.
He helped me get my concealed carry many years ago.
And he has a great gun shop and training center here in Austin.
CentralTexasGunWorks.com Many of you are familiar with him.
He's been on all the shows here and been part of some documentaries we've done.
CentralTexasGunWorks.com The mayor came out unconstitutionally and ordered gun shops and gun manufacturing facilities shut down.
But the liquor stores can stay open and things like that.
And looking at the federal law, that wasn't there.
So he said no.
Everybody else basically submitted.
And now he's got a letter.
In a moment I can show people on television after you read it.
A letter from the Texas Attorney General.
dan friesen
So the way Alex wants this narrative to sound is that they're targeting gun shops to close them down.
But that's not true.
You could do this with any type of store if you wanted to.
You could just play games.
If you're like a big car guy, you could complain that dealerships are closed.
If you're a gambler, you could complain about casinos.
And no matter what you choose to complain about, you can always say, but what about liquor stores?
They're keeping liquor stores and pot shops open.
Marijuana shops are being kept open because for a lot of people, that's straight up medicine.
You can pretend all you want that it's just kids going to get high, but one of the main reasons it's become legal in a number of states is that there are people with compelling medical reasons to have weed.
Closing pot shops would be bad for these people, and the way pot shops are set up lend themselves to easily incorporating social distancing that's required to operate safely.
jordan holmes
They're allowing pharmacies to remain open, Dan.
That's disgusting.
What is a better prescription than a gun?
dan friesen
As for liquor stores, if you closed all the shops that were considered liquor stores, you would seriously cut off a lot of people's access to their food supplementation.
Not everyone lives in places where it's convenient to go to a full-on grocery store and if taking public transit is not encouraged in these circumstances, you have a situation where it's even less accessible.
lie on corner stores and liquor stores that also sell food items to satisfy their shopping needs.
So closing them would be a fucking disaster.
They are very much necessary.
So those two arguments don't really work.
As for guns, no one's forcing states or even cities to deem gun shops essential or unessential businesses.
That's a decision that's left to these specific areas in question.
Even the notorious left-wing California Governor Gavin Newsom said that the decision about keeping gun shops open was up to local sheriffs.
States have discretion about how they want to deal with this.
And if Alex thinks that Texas gun stores are being targeted, then the only person he can complain about is his old friend, Governor Abbott.
It doesn't matter, though, since on the same day this episode came out, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton released a statement that gun shops were considered essential businesses, so they're exempt from the shutdown.
Ultimately, this segment is pointless, and the fucking dude he's talking to, Michael Cargill, even brings up Ken Paxton's...
jordan holmes
That's...
unidentified
you can't.
dan friesen
So they're complaining about gun shops being considered unessential while discussing how the Attorney General said that they are.
jordan holmes
Great work, guys.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
It's not fair.
dan friesen
But it's just artificial grievement.
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip, and it's Alex complaining about getting kicked off the app.
unidentified
Hooray!
dan friesen
And I really wish he was still talking about his religious belief in aliens.
alex jones
It doesn't make me mad that they're doing this to me.
It's that they're doing it to all of us.
And now, in live time, censoring people on Facebook, Twitter, they're censoring what you can say, what words you can print.
First it's the N-word, now it's...
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Mother and father on entrance forms for children.
jordan holmes
What's happening?
dan friesen
Come on now.
alex jones
Some people don't have a mother and father, so don't say that.
dan friesen
Hey!
alex jones
Don't say Trump can't send out campaign ads saying we're looking for strong women to join the campaign because maybe a woman is not a woman.
I'm not kidding.
Just seeing the word woman is hurtful.
This is a cult of control freaks with helpless people that go get college degrees and learn how to be cult members, not how to do anything.
They're building the post-human world.
They're sabotaging everything.
Folks, that's why we need your financial support.
dan friesen
I'm going to get an air horn sound effect.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for every ad pivot.
dan friesen
Everyone will be furious at me about how many air horns there are on the show.
Yeah, man, I mean, that's really just the purest version of Alex.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Weird.
Secondary narrative about being kicked off the app that he doesn't even feel.
jordan holmes
He's not into it.
dan friesen
He would much rather complain about the demons and aliens and stuff.
And the big spider that seems to have fallen off his radar after the middle of the show.
But it all just is in service of selling his shit.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine being able to read a Wired article with a quote that I gave that's like, There are interdimensional demons that you can't make a...
dan friesen
Alien demons that serve an interdimensional thing.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Quote, interdimensional thing.
jordan holmes
My bad.
dan friesen
Sorry, go ahead.
jordan holmes
Reading that aloud and being like, that's a thing I said.
dan friesen
I nailed it, and you know what?
That's my religion.
Exactly, right?
jordan holmes
How could you be a person who reads that aloud and not have one moment of like, what am I doing?
dan friesen
This show is researched.
jordan holmes
Well, it's the interdimensional thing who's doing most of the research.
dan friesen
So I guess I'm kind of satisfied in some ways because this episode was not as coronavirus heavy, which I can appreciate.
And we got to experience what a really sad floating, just treading water kind of guy, how he responds to these really negative things in his life.
I think that he's almost at the point where he's not even angry about these things.
He's probably pretty angry, but also so burnt out on being angry about them.
It's just like fucking almost lackadaisical responses.
jordan holmes
Eventually the well runs dry.
It's just gotta.
And also, we got to hear the sweet sounds of the saxophone, which is what I'm always a big fan of on the show.
dan friesen
And I got to find a primary source that Alex was misusing, which is always a very special day.
Oh yeah, it is.
I hope you all are doing alright out there.
We will be back on Wednesday.
Like we said, we're doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday episodes for the foreseeable future during this time.
Thank you to everybody.
Thank you to everybody who sent nice messages about how much they appreciate it.
jordan holmes
We appreciate y 'all.
dan friesen
So we'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
That's right.
We also are on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
And I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're on Facebook.
jordan holmes
If you'd like to download the show, please go to iTunes, leave a review, etc.
Go through the whole thing.
Donate.
Yay!
dan friesen
We will be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm a big old spider.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
dan friesen
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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