Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ March 24–25, 2020 episodes, where he flip-flopped from fearmongering about COVID-19 to downplaying it as a "globalist hoax," citing debunked claims like China’s lab-engineered virus (proven false by Scripps Research) and a 2007 "Second Amendment repeal." Jones promoted unproven cures—zinc, colloidal silver, tonic water—while mocking shutdowns, blaming Democrats for economic collapse, and amplifying racist conspiracy theories like "Fentanyl, the Chinese Dragon" and anti-Semitic claims about Jews orchestrating porn. His shifting narratives, from CDC suppression to China’s "bioweapon pilgrimage," reveal profit-driven disinformation, with experts warning his advice could now have deadly consequences. [Automatically generated summary]
And watching these guys just slowly figure out how to get through this impossible Mario level is so it's so fun to watch them learn and their little techniques get better each and every time.
And also, it's just mesmerizing the way that everything moves around and they're jumping off of the wall.
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Isn't it amazing to watch the globalists flounder around like this and try one big hoax after another?
And now their mass hysteria worked at first, but now everybody I talk to is now waking up and just saying, this is ridiculous.
This is out of control.
And then Lieutenant Governor of Texas came out and said, I'm a grandparent.
Others are grandparents.
We're all talking and we're ready to brave this thing that looks like it might kill 1% of people that are above 75 and sick for our grandkids because the Great Depression is going to be a lot worse than that.
And Trump said it last night in the press conference that Brian Williams attacked.
So Alex has definitely caught the right-wing talking points.
He has gotten in line with the people like the Tuckers and the Hannity's who are putting forth the and old buddy Glenn Beck and him are in they're in sync now too.
The old people are willing to go and save the economy and they'd rather die than see the economy take a hit.
It's really interesting considering the trajectory and the path that we've seen Alex walk down and the way that this is, it seems out of step with the path we've been on.
First of all, we'll get back to the unconstitutionality question in a moment, but he wants to let you know that this is not because my business is affected.
It makes me physically go into a rage that art supply shops are going to have to shut today when Austin declares it's only essential businesses stay open.
Or that Academy was told to close in Dallas, which is a lot more important than Walmart.
They got a lot of supply survival stuff and camping stuff and guns and everything and clothing.
And no, you're just shut.
And Propier in Michigan, our other great water filter supplier, Alexa Pure is selling out.
So I said, well, let's go to Propier.
They're just as good.
Let's promote them.
They go, oh, sorry.
Michigan ordered them shut down.
I'm reading the letter this morning, and I literally got angry.
According to an article in Politico by UC Davis law professor Elizabeth Joe, this is a part of the state's policing power, which was reserved by the 10th Amendment.
And it's been affirmed in case law pretty consistently.
The question of whether Trump could do that on a national level, that's an open question, with experts not really having a good take on it because there isn't a good precedent.
Most think that he could do it, or if he could do it, it would take the form of an executive order using this national emergency declaration as the groundwork.
The courts could try to challenge it, but they might not be quick to do that while the virus situation is still an active threat.
It would be kind of complicated.
But even if Trump did this, he probably would be unable to do much more than encourage every state to just do what California, New York, and others are already doing.
If he were to try to put a lockdown in place in a way that bypasses the state governors being the ones who are making the decision and running their home states, there's a pretty decent chance that would be unconstitutional.
The general point here is that nothing that's happening right now is unconstitutional.
And further, there's really nothing that can happen that would be unconstitutional that would not be initiated by Trump.
Congress doesn't have the authority to lock down the country, but it could grant Trump the authority to do that, though it probably wouldn't do that unless he requested it.
He could release an executive order.
Outside of that, what we would see is just state governors utilizing their 10th Amendment powers to protect their residents.
And as you pointed out, Alex should be totally fine with that.
He yells about states' rights all the fucking time.
He's artificially increased the demand so high on the supply of the food supplier that they've had to not allow him to take orders anymore.
So he is in a position where like, well, I can't do that.
But as we saw in our last episode, he's now realized that this chloroquin that Trump was promoting involves zinc, and he sells the real red pill, which includes zinc.
Right.
And so he's going really full into like, well, now it's time to sell zinc.
And they won't tell you the science that zinc, if taken preventatively before you get sick, depending on the study you look at, is between 97 and 99% effective with viruses, period.
I think that he's going a little bit overboard, but whatever.
I'm more interested in the fact that he's still pushing the chloroquine, particularly considering he called it chloroquil, which doesn't inspire confidence that he has a good handle on it.
By the time we'd recorded our last episode, there had been two non-fatal overdoses in Nigeria from people taking the irresponsible advice to take chloroquin to treat or prevent the coronavirus.
But since then, a 68-year-old man in Arizona died after taking chloroquine phosphate, and his 61-year-old wife was sent to the hospital in critical condition.
She survived and explained their actions by saying, We saw Trump on TV every channel, and all his buddies said that it was safe.
Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure.
Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people are willing to sacrifice themselves so the DAO doesn't go down a percentage point, but what we don't know is that also Republicans are willing to kill themselves to make sure that it doesn't go down a percentage point.
I think that your aunt and a lot of folks on Twitter have this narrative in their head and they can't seem to get past this thing.
And from what I can tell, the only thing this argument is based on is a raw number of deaths that come from the flu each year.
This is a really incomplete way of looking at the situation.
And there's a couple of really important considerations to keep in mind to help understand why this coronavirus is definitely not like the flu.
And if not taken seriously, it will be much worse.
The first and easiest to understand element of this is they have a very different fatality rate, the two conditions.
The flu has approximately a 0.1% fatality rate, whereas the bottom estimates for the coronavirus are at about 1%.
But some countries are showing significantly higher numbers than that.
On just that level, it's at least 10 times deadlier for people who get infected.
On top of that, you have a higher estimated transmission rate from coronavirus than from the flu.
Each person who has the flu generally will give it to 1.3 people compared to the at least two people that are infected from each person who has the coronavirus.
Each person who has the virus will, on average, give it to two people and thus triple the number of cases in each iteration.
And part of what makes things really scary is that the coronavirus has an incubation period that can last up to 14 days, as opposed to the about four-day window for the flu.
This incubation period is the period where a person can be asymptomatic, have no idea they have the virus, but be contagious the entire time.
Because of this longer incubation period, the cases that we're seeing arrive in the hospital today may be people who have been sick and not known it for two weeks.
During that time, it's possible that they spread the virus to a bunch of other people who we won't know are sick until a week or two from now.
It may already be too late to do anything about where we'll be in two weeks, but it's not too late to make sure that three weeks or a month from now, things are not continuing down that same horrible path.
One of the things that makes this path so bad that you could be on is that people who have coronavirus are approximately 10 times more likely to require hospitalization than people who come down with the flu.
Because of this, if cases spike very fast, it has the potential to completely overwhelm the hospital system in the country, at which point things have the possibility of deteriorating dramatically, especially considering that at the point the hospitals are overwhelmed, there are still going to be more patients coming in and people who are coming in with things that aren't coronavirus related.
That's why Americans spend more on healthcare than anybody else in the world to make sure that when an outbreak like this happens, we don't have to worry about it, Dan.
Now, you can add on top of that the fact that people with coronavirus require a longer and more intensive hospitalization than do most patients who come in for the flu.
A limited sample study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association found a median length of stay for coronavirus patients to be 10 days, as compared to an average of 6.3 days for the flu, according to a 2015-2016 set of data from the Healthcare Cost and Utilization Project.
The coronavirus spreads more, incubates for longer, thus giving a longer contagion window, hospitalizes more, and causes longer hospital stays in patients who do end up requiring medical care.
All of these variables combined are unsustainable at a certain point.
And you can easily imagine how this will have all sorts of ripple effects.
It could end up being horrific.
Not least among them, all of the other needs of the medical system that would be left on.
And, oh, all of the flu people, because it's not like this is replacing the coronavirus.
So the flu is no joke, and I'm not here to say it's not an issue.
But anytime you hear someone compare our current situation to the flu, they're either a complete psychopath or they have no idea what they're talking about.
Cowards like Alex hide behind this sort of bullshit about there being like 50,000 deaths from the flu a year in America.
That statistic isn't accurate.
And even if it were, do you think he would change his tune if like 55,000 people end up dead from the coronavirus?
If you have a media, if you're going by median age, Germany and Monaco both have populations that are older than Italy, so those are in Europe.
Also, Alex's stat about 70,000 flu deaths a year in Italy is completely incorrect.
It comes from him not knowing how to read.
There was a study that was published in November 2019 in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases that showed a total of 68,000 flu deaths in Italy during the time period it studied.
I'm fairly certain that this is his source, but what he fails to point out is that this study covered the period of winter 2013 through the end of flu season 2017.
No, no, you're multiplying instead of subtracting or dividing.
Also, it really needs to be pointed out that this study was an estimate.
They took all-cause fatality data from the country and then combined it with the rates of people getting influenza-like illnesses and estimated that there would be 68,000 deaths attributable to the flu in that five-year span.
The study literally says, quote, the study should be validated using cause-specific mortality data, which, however, was not available for the entire study period.
No matter how you slice it, Alex's number is completely false in the context he's providing it in.
And actually, according to that very study, the 2013-2014 flu season, during that time, there were 7,027 deaths in Italy attributable to the flu.
As of the time that I was preparing this episode, it's higher now, but there were 7,503 deaths from the coronavirus in Italy.
So already higher than that for the year.
The PSYOP is not the media saying that this is the end of the world because the media isn't saying that.
Alex Jones and his friends were a couple months ago.
The PSYOP is people like Alex and most of the right-wing media trying to convince their audiences that reality isn't reality.
It's a game that they play so often, and generally they get away with it because they're yelling about stuff like the war on Christmas, some other boutique concern that's completely made up.
It really does feel like this is a like you could like it's almost like the culmination of all right-wing propaganda is to eventually get its people to kill it, just kill themselves.
Like it's it's almost like Fox News was a false flag to kill the elderly at the end of the day.
Like they started it 20 years ago and they're like, okay, we're going to have too many old people.
It's just going to happen.
We got to do something about this.
I have a new plan.
We're going to get a black president and we're going to lose people's minds and then kill them.
The problem with Trump and Alex's argument about their desire to turn the economy back on, as they put it, is that it's dumb.
The framing of that argument that they think that they're having is that the virus will cause X number of deaths, but to avoid those deaths, you need to shut down the economy temporarily, which could lead to Y number of deaths.
According to them, if X is lower than Y, it's not worth it to shut down things in order to stop the virus.
Their thinking is flawed because it's not a question of X number of deaths versus Y number of deaths.
If you don't take this seriously and take some action now, we will get that X number of deaths from the virus, which will lead to a complete collapse of our medical system.
And according to many experts, ultimately an even worse economic collapse than you would have had from a temporary shutdown.
In effect, one of your like your options are Y or X plus Y. Right, right.
There is no X option that's on the table that is realistic or feasible.
In circumstances like this, you should always choose the option that's controllable.
The amount of pain that could be caused by this economic shutdown is pretty high, but a lot of that pain can be mitigated by government action.
There can be relief provided that, if properly handled, could minimize the amount of death that would be caused by a shutdown.
That's a problem that can solve itself if we let it.
The same is not true of letting the consequences of coronavirus just run free through the workplace and the population.
The effects and consequences of that are fairly unpredictable outside of, you know, you could probably predict that it would be really bad.
The unspoken argument that's being made here is that the well-being of corporations is more important than your life.
Alex is trying to pretend that's not what he's saying by citing this bogus stat about starvation and the Great Depression, but mainstream right-wing talking point, the one that he's working off of, is exactly what you see on Fox News and from Glenn Beck.
Glenn Beck said on his show on March 24th, the same day as this episode, that, quote, I would rather have my children stay home and all of us who are over 50 go in and keep this economy going and working.
Even if we all get sick, I would rather die than kill the country.
Trump's advisor, Larry Kudlow, appeared on Fox News and said, quote, the cure can't be worse than the disease, and we're going to have to make some difficult trade-offs.
The conversation that's happening on the right at this point is how if it can help the stock market, thousands of deaths are an acceptable price to pay.
Or, at the very worst, a quote, difficult trade-off.
This is the talking point that Alex is putting forth with the cowardly mask of this fake Great Depression stat.
Alex is arguing that the market is more important than public health, which should be a problem for him.
For a guy who yelled about Obama death panels for years, for a guy who's just as recently as a few days ago, was ranting about Bill Gates and the quote case for killing Granny, you would think that he would be against the idea of sacrificing human lives to serve the economic interests of the already very rich, but whatever.
It does seem like they've convinced a large enough number of people to essentially act in ways that would kill themselves and hinder anybody else from doing it.
I'm not sure why Alex always gets so defensive about the dumb people he talks to who are wrong about things.
Like, if his friends and associates thought they had to stay indoors by government decree like a week ago, that reflects poorly on them more than anything else.
He knows uninformed people, and I have no idea why he feels the need to insist that everyone is as dumb as his friends.
Also, I have no idea why he's making such a huge production out of proving that his business is probably technically considered an essential business according to the Austin stay-at-home order.
It's very weird, and I don't know what he's responding to.
And also, those numbers of the bill, the 2020-0324, that's just the date.
I have a strong suspicion that this may at least be in part related to some members of Alex's staff not wanting to come in during the outbreak, which I completely understand.
However, what I find interesting about that clip is that it tells us a lot about what Alex's employees seem to think about what he does.
For one, he claims as an authoritative fact and even claims to have evidence that something, this thing, were essential.
And their response is, that's your opinion.
That tells me that his staff know that Alex is full of shit and they don't trust him to know anything.
The only reason you would ever respond to someone like that is if you don't believe them just by default.
Second, this tells me that at least some of the Infowars staff do not feel like what they do is news.
If Alex shows them this order that says that news organizations are clearly exempt and they're still not convinced of the point, then they must know that this isn't a news show.
It's propaganda QVC.
Third, and possibly most importantly, Alex's clue, Alex's crew has no idea what's going on in the real world.
If they thought that there was a lockdown in place a week prior, then they're completely lost.
These are the sorts of people Alex has working in his alleged news operation.
Alex can pretend all day that his hero isn't doing the exact same things that he's claiming the villains are doing, but that doesn't make it true.
Also, that story about the vaccine tattoos is no more true than it was when it was a lie a few days ago.
That's true.
There's research into a possible invisible tattoo that could be used as a vaccine record, but it's nowhere near ready for implementation.
The only citation Alex has about this is a headline that says, quote, Asia deploys innovative, if invasive, tech to curb virus, which does not mention these tattoos at all, but kind of sounds like it might if you only read the headlines.
If Trump does rush people back to work, Alex will celebrate it.
Then, if things get as bad as experts are suggesting that it could, Alex will pretend he wasn't in favor of that plan.
And in fact, it was the globalists like Mnuchin who forced Trump to sacrifice the good people of this country to save the international bankers' money in the stock market.
So anyway, this next clip, I think that this is a pure form of Alex.
I think this is really his soul on display.
And he's reading a bunch of headlines that are people who have warnings about the disastrous consequences that could come from us not taking a very responsible pose towards the circumstances that we're in right now and how bad things could be.
That right there is the image I want you to keep in your mind of Alex Jones.
As this gets worse and the realization that this isn't a globalist plot sets in, remember that fucking monster.
Remember Alex Jones as the person who mockingly read headlines about the possibility of all doctors being infected with the coronavirus.
Remember Alex Jones as the person who mockingly read a headline about the possibility that reopening businesses prematurely could have horrible consequences.
Remember him like that because that's who he is.
Alex has made all the money he can off this crisis, so he doesn't really give a shit anymore.
He stopped selling the food buckets, most likely because he caused a run on his supplier who couldn't keep up with the artificially inflated demand.
According to Infowar's website, as of March 25th, they're opening back up orders, quote, for a very limited time, but it's also being called pre-orders and there's like a 12-week delay on deliveries.
So this is no longer going to be something he can push with the same intensity.
If the whole idea is that the shit is about to hit the fan, so you need to act now to get this food, it's hard to balance that with buy this now and you'll get the food in like three months.
At the same time, the New York Attorney General's letter clearly has had its effect, and he knows better than to try and insinuate that his products are protection from or a solution to the virus, which is how he was marketing them for a stretch where he was more interested in making the audience afraid of the virus.
There's no financial incentive in Alex making the audience afraid that way anymore, so he's not doing it.
As it stands now, he has nothing to gain from making the audience afraid of the virus, so he's moved the rhetoric to the some people will get it, there'll be some deaths, but it's like the flu talking point because that's where it is.
And an economic shutdown stands to lose Alex a ton of money.
He can make the argument all day that his business is exempt from the shutdown, and he might be right, but in a time of difficulty and layoffs, how many of his ridiculously priced pills do you think he's going to be selling?
When his listeners are choosing what's essential, do you think bone broth is going to make the cut?
He may not have always been like this, but this is who he's grown into: a vapid, cruel, profiteering monster.
And if you need any further evidence that Alex Jones is a piece of shit and he's only driven by his own bottom line, you can find it buried in that clip.
You responded to it a little bit, and it's this: Plot of unemployment claims, sparks delayed checks, Goldman, buy gold now.
Right there, you see a momentary flash of him remembering that he used to make a lot of money selling gold off narratives just like this.
He remembers it, and there's a moment of, ah, but there's no money in it for him to pitch gold to his audience now, so he doesn't.
That's the tell.
That's how you know he doesn't mean what he sells.
If he philosophically believed in buying gold, that part of his show wouldn't have curiously ended when Ted Anderson lost his precious metals license.
If Alex believed the magical gold he sold his audience for years, and then that was the answer to the imaginary financial collapse he kept prophesying, he would keep telling them to buy gold.
And he'd be telling people to buy gold now, even though he wouldn't be getting a cut.
For the last months, we would have been hearing him being like, all right, everything's going to go to hell.
Buy gold now.
Hey, look, I don't have any sponsor, but there's plenty of them.
I got to say that there was a time when I would have said Trump would never fire the guy who's been the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 in the middle of an active pandemic.
Listen very carefully because there's a bunch of points where Alex is just like sort of, you can almost hear him in a writer's room coming up with bouncing ideas off the wall.
This is all a globalist lockdown, so government can be a savior, and so big tech can push, hey, force inoculation.
It's all about medical tyranny.
But the virus is just now starting to explode.
It is going to kill a bunch of old people, and it'll kill some other people as well, just like every other pneumonia virus or flu virus does, in even greater numbers.
And so this is just, they went, oh, people aren't scared of old viruses.
They're scared of new ones.
And they're scared of stuff out of China.
So China took a real outbreak and some real problems, told their people, go ahead and videotape it, put it on the internet.
They normally don't have any freedom to do that.
You get locked up for that.
And so they all did.
They did what the party said.
The party controls everything.
They put the word out, hyped this up, hyped the numbers up, hype the death numbers up.
That's now Wall Street Journal admits China lied about the numbers, said they were much higher to get the maximum fear.
Then they went, oh, it's no problem now.
We're back to work.
Knowing the globalist media would then hype up an 18-month shutdown of the U.S. as a giant psyop to where if Trump didn't respond properly, every death would be his fault.
It is a cooked up globalist plot ordering the Chinese to do this with a man-made virus so they would know the trajectory of it.
I want to take this piece by piece, or at least a lot of these pieces, because they're going to hurt my brain.
So, quote, they said people aren't scared of old viruses.
They're scared of new ones.
Alex is making that up.
I would be dead certain that if a new vaccine-resistant, widely transmittable polio showed up, or like a vaccine-resistant version of measles came around, people would be pretty fucking scared of the old virus.
So with no evidence, no supporting information at all, Alex has just decided to report that the Chinese government produced or facilitated all those videos that he's previously used to scare his audience.
It was in Chinese, and it was just a video filmed in Wuhan of all the apartment buildings at night in the background and the screams, the haunting, blood-curdling screams from people, the mental anguish.
So the next piece, quote, and so they did what Xi Jinping and the party said.
They put the word out to hype this up.
Alex is completely making that up.
He has no evidence of it.
It's completely pulled out of thin air as he's just riffing around.
Quote, hype the numbers up, hype the death numbers up.
Now, that's now Wall Street Journal admits China lied about the numbers, that they were much higher.
First things first, about who's specifically guilty of lying about inflated numbers out of China.
You'd be wise to consider that Alex spent multiple days on his show back in early February pretending that probably a glitch on a website had revealed secretly that there were actually over 24,000 deaths from coronavirus in China as of February 6th.
Alex reportedly suggested that China was under-reporting the number of sick and dead because at that point it was in his financial interest to make the virus itself seem as bad as possible and China as evil as possible.
Like that is ridiculous.
He's saying that China over-inflated their numbers.
But I guess if he thought that that 24,000 was actually China reporting that number, as opposed to a propaganda narrative that him and his buddies cooked up claiming that China said that, then I guess that's probably what he's doing, but that means he's high on his own supply.
I have literally no idea what Alex is talking about when he says that the Wall Street Journal admitted that China lied about the numbers, saying that they were higher than they actually were.
So I can find plenty of articles that suggest that there's a good chance that China, particularly in the early stages, underreported cases.
But I legitimately can't find any credible source that suggested that they overreported.
Now, it's in Alex's financial interest to downplay the virus itself and focus on building the narrative that China intentionally built up some kind of hype.
So he's completely fabricating a story about Xi commanding people to take videos and Wuhan to scare the Americans.
If that was Xi's plan, though, Alex did a great job of playing his part in it.
So then he goes on, quote, it's a cooked-up globalist plot ordering the Chinese to do this with a man-made virus.
So the virus isn't man-made, and Alex has absolutely no evidence that these unnamed and shadowy globalists told the Chinese government to do anything.
Also, in bad news for Alex, an article recently came out from the Scripps Research Institute that completely ruins the man-made virus theory.
Christian Anderson, the author of the study, said, quote, by comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS coronavirus 2 originated through natural processes.
They found solid evidence of a natural origin for the virus, and more importantly, disqualifying evidence that it was made in a lab.
One of the main pieces of evidence on that front was that they found that the virus has a unique backbone.
Whereas if someone were trying to create this in a lab, they would have to use an existing virus's backbone or the basic molecular structure.
The fact that the coronavirus has its own backbone essentially disqualifies it as possibly being lab-created.
And the fact that its backbone is very similar to related viruses known in the wild makes the possibility of it being a product of natural evolution incredibly, almost absolutely, definitively likely.
I guess you can believe all these scientists whose article is published in the Nature Medicine Journal, or you can believe Alex Jones, who just makes things up to suit whatever mood he's in on a given day.
So all of this is in justification for what he thinks has already happened, you know, what's inevitable, which is the deaths of so many hundreds of thousands of people.
So I read that article that Alex is talking about, and it's just this writer posting an op-ed that has a position that people should start to consider the fact that things may get worse.
And it would be wise to observe the examples of countries a little further down the path, like Italy, to get a sense of what could be coming.
I grant that some of the stuff is pretty stark and may come off as a little bit extreme, like, you know, having saying goodbye to friends for a while, you know, like that kind of thing.
But Laurie Garrett is basically just writing a piece that's meant to offer some realistic, concrete advice for people who might end up in a similar position as people in Italy are in now.
Alex didn't look up Garrett and find out that she's CFR.
That's in her bio.
It's in the article.
But Alex fails to point out that she is a, quote, former senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations.
Former.
Steve Pieczenik's former CFR.
Alex also left off a few relevant things about her resume, like how she won the 1996 Pulitzer Prize for Explanatory Journalism for her work covering the outbreak of Ebola.
Alex is just making up that she's invested in China.
He has absolutely no idea who she has investments in, even if she even has any.
He's just coming up with a fabricated accusation he can use to tarnish her credibility because that's the level of work that he does and his audience accepts it.
So Alex is really pushing the sort of main prongs that I see of his everyone go back to work, minimizing the virus narrative are the 7 million people died of starvation in the Great Depression.
That's one.
And then the other prong is everybody dies from the flu, particularly people in Italy.
So, I mean, Alex has the basic incubation period correct here, and there's some preliminary research showing that it can last about 10 days of active illness.
But the point Alex is driving at here is absurd.
Some studies have suggested that you are the most contagious in that period when you don't know you have the virus, when you're asymptomatic.
So, if everybody follows his advice of only practicing some distancing if you feel really sick, there's a really good chance this will spread completely out of control.
The bigger issue I have here is how this is a complete betrayal of Alex's established narrative about the virus.
He's saying that it's no big deal.
It incubates for about two weeks, then you get about a week and a half of sickness, and after that, it's clear.
One of the major consistent features of Alex's content over the past weeks has been about how this is a secret new HIV that the globalists have unleashed on the population.
And part of that, in his mind, is that even after you recover, the coronavirus keeps coming back.
That article describes a very high number of flu cases, approximately 3.8 million between September 2017 and January 14th, 2018.
This is about where the country hit the peak of a particularly bad flu season, the worst of 14 years.
And this gigantic number of flu cases resulted in 140 serious hospitalizations and 30 deaths.
There is another article in the local about the 2019-2020 flu season from January 2020, which reports a slightly lower number of total cases, which had resulted in 240 deaths.
These numbers are much lower than the expected actual death toll from influenza-like diseases and related complications each year in Italy, but it's legitimately nowhere even close to where Alex and his dumb-dumb caller are suggesting.
This caller has no idea what he's talking about, and Alex doesn't either, but it sounds good to this new framing, so he throws in his 70,000 die gear in Italy from the flu, that stat that he's fallen in love with, and now he can suggest to his audience that Italy is just faking this whole thing.
I have a question, but before that question, I just want to let everyone out there know that it's a new caller to Infowar, how important you are to this InfoWar and to this country.
Alex Jones, for anyone that doesn't know, is the person that discovered and got into Bohemian Grove, the person that exposed Janet Reno and the Clintons during the Waco massacre with posse comitatas on our own American soil, the Clinton Foundation.
David Gergen, that interview is still on YouTube.
And if anyone wants to see something amazing, it's when you went into Bohemian Grove and then you confronted David Gergen and he was completely spooked.
This caller is so indicative of a person who's just accepted everything Alex says is true with no interest in reality.
Alex didn't discover Bohemian Grove.
There were plenty of people who talked about it prior to him from the mainstream media to a 1989 piece in Spy magazine, all well before Alex did his publicity stunt.
Alex didn't expose Janet Reno or Hillary Clinton during Waco.
For one, that's rewriting history a little bit with the lens of the Hillary obsession, considering there was Bill who was president back then, but let's just forget about that.
Second, Alex did get a lot of attention for trying to help rebuild the Branch Davidian church in Waco, and it was a huge part of his early identity, but he didn't expose anything.
The standoff happened in 1993, years before Alex is on the radio.
Bill did tons of episodes about Waco and interviewed a lot of the people who Alex uses as big sources, like Linda Thompson and her pseudo-documentary, The Big Lie.
Alex hasn't broken any actual stories about the Clinton Foundation.
He has yelled about them a bunch, though, so there's that.
Alex's interview with David Gergen is kind of funny, but I don't know if it really achieved anything.
It's just Alex telling David Gergen that he snuck in with a camera to Bohemian Grove and Gergen saying, hey man, that's not cool.
You're supposed to keep that stuff secret.
If Alex had captured any footage that elicited a response in me and beyond, like, wow, that's weird, then maybe this would have been a gotcha moment.
But from everything Alex has in his documentary, I don't think I care if people at the Grove keep what they do their secret.
This caller is such a great example of someone who doesn't stand a chance.
He's willing to believe that Alex Jones is fighting a completely unspecific but totally real enemy that seems to change their plans based on Alex's whims, who are super powerful to the point of controlling pretty much all the world, but can't seem to handle a dumb radio host who can't be bothered to read things past headlines.
His caller is willing to believe that because he too cannot be bothered to read past headlines.
Hawley went on Hannity on Tuesday to promote his call for a, quote, internal investigation into China's actions related to the outbreak.
Alex wants the audience to think that this matches up with his narratives about the globalists telling China to release a bioweapon or some shit, but it doesn't.
Hawley is just talking about the accusation that China didn't act properly and tried to cover up the initial outbreak.
This is basically just a young Republican senator saber-rattling at China to keep the base happy, while also doing some timely scapegoating to distract from the fact their party's president has handled this outbreak as poorly as one probably could.
So what Alex is doing is basically changing a whole bunch of like really central things, it seems, or things that seem kind of important because Trump, he needs to stay in line with Trump.
So Alex goes back from break and he takes another caller.
And this caller, man, if there is a bad idea, this is it.
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What would happen if there were a massive protest in Washington, D.C. with conservatives and liberals side by side protesting the grievances for the liberties seized by our own government?
So this caller seems to think there's some kind of a supervillain plot going on, like where the Joker springs all the inmates from Arkham to overwhelm Gotham's police department.
That's legitimately what these idiots think is happening because their worldview is so based on fiction that reality and comic books are indistinguishable from them.
I'm going to help this caller out.
Here's the situation you end up with when you have an active pandemic and prison overcrowding.
You can either release a ton of nonviolent and parole eligible offenders in order to create room for the responsible administration of incarceration and health services for the violent offenders you want to keep in jail, or you can keep everyone in jail and risk horrific consequences.
One possible outcome is an outbreak spreading in an overcrowded prison, which is actually happening right now on Rikers Island.
According to Slate, there are currently 52 people at Rikers who have confirmed cases and 96 more under observation.
There are 5,000 people incarcerated there, and the way the jail is set up, there's almost no way to stop the spread of this virus since people are housed in such close quarters and the jail is not equipped to be sterilized with sufficient regularity to fight an outbreak.
Given a situation like that, you end up in a position where you can act either by releasing people incarcerated for minor offenses or dumping millions into building new housing wings or something like that, or you can watch as prisoners die locked in cells.
You can tell yourself that they're in prison and they matter less, but if you do, you're a piece of shit.
Now, the other possible consequence is an offshoot of this one.
If you have a large incarcerated population who are being held in these sorts of conditions where everyone around them is sick and dying and there's a reasonable expectation they're going to get sick too, what's to stop anyone from rioting?
If guards get sick too, the security staff could be run thin and you might put yourself in a position where there's complete chaos at prisons.
If you care at all about people or if you're just interested in keeping dangerous offenders in jail and you're not a dum-dum, the only right choice you can make right now is to free as many nonviolent offenders as you can.
If Alex thinks drugs should be legal and there's a guy who's in prison for selling weed, why the fuck would Alex not support letting him out no matter what the circumstances?
The New York doctor, Hannity's released the info, said he had 350 patients with the coronavirus and had a 100% success rate of curing them with three things.
And guess what?
We've been saying on air for a long time: Zero deaths, zero hospitalizations, zero innovations.
So the whole story here is that Sean Hannity claimed that he had a letter from a New York doctor who said that he had about 500 patients and he cured them all with not just zinc, but also hydroxychloroquine and isithromycin.
Also, there's no proof that this is a real letter or a real doctor.
There's no proof that this alleged doctor has, in fact, cured anyone.
This could legitimately all be bullshit.
But even if it is a real doctor and he has this many patients recovered from this drug cocktail, it's still not sufficient to claim that the drugs caused the recoveries.
There could be any number of reasons that they recovered, completely unrelated to the drugs.
And the other thing I wanted to throw out, and this is a really radical idea that we can't even believe, but I felt like I would throw it out there because there's a doctor, Dr. Terry Tillart, P-I-L-L-A-A-R-T, has done a webinar on Facebook.
It was posted to his page on the 22nd of March of this year.
It says there is no virus.
There are no viruses.
Five experts weigh in.
One of them being John Rappaport.
Did John say there's no such thing as viruses?
Well, I'm not saying that he says that, but he's one of the ones that was interviewed on this webinar.
Man, if you go back and you listen to Alex Jones's piece in Richard Linklater's Waking Life, where he's driving around in the street yelling into a bullhorn about how like, humanity is too good.
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We're going to create things that represent the human spirit.
Like, you take that in, like, now in 2020, he's on the radio.
What he's referencing is basically how cowpox was helped you grant immunity to smallpox.
That's his concept there.
However, he doesn't understand that viruses like a flu isn't going to fix, isn't going to provide immunity to the influenza virus is a different thing.
He can't help himself in his sales practices because as the show goes on, he starts to really push the idea that this zinc that's in his real red pill is a preventative.
It will have the preventative effect with the coronavirus.
These guys, like, it has to be a thing where at the end of all of this, we do have to like get Alex and Hannity and Tucker Carlson and like put them on trial.
I do like the idea that, look, after six or seven days of having this virus that I have been told by a large number of people can last six or seven days, and many people get a minor version of it, and then it's over.
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I actually cured it with colloidal silver elderberries.
At a time when Asian Americans are reporting increased hostility and racist abuse being directed towards them, certainly great to see Alex taking the time to start his show with absurd racist sketch.
So, this is just about a 2007 release from the National Infrastructure Advisory Council under George W. Bush, which didn't include gun dealers as essential businesses that should be kept open in emergency situations.
I guess it must suck if you're a gun weirdo for gun stores to possibly not be open, but I don't think that counts as the Second Amendment being shut down.
I don't think the Second Amendment requires that you be able to conveniently buy a gun at every moment of every day, no matter what.
This just seems like an incredibly weak argument, but it's good for Alex because it helps him pivot the coronavirus situation back into familiar waters.
He's done the gun paranoia show a million times by now, so he should be able to handle that kind of narrative in his sleep.
That's the way you do this.
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You bring this shit back into the territory you know.
The Democrats are announcing the plan to hold America hostage, and they're going to work with the corporations to do it.
But China is open for business.
This is as clear as the nose on somebody's face that they're using a real virus that they hype up and exaggerate the death rates from to panic everyone and to have corporations set the precedent, then governors set the president and Democrat cities at the president in a partisan move to shut things down.
Have their own political fever, as they've called it, or their own chemotherapy, their own radiation to get rid of the cancer that's Donald Trump.
And that's what they're doing right now is showing you by bankrupting you that they're the boss and they think they can blame this on Trump.
The key is blaming it on them and the TRICOMs.
Then it will blow up in their dirty, stinky faces.
Like everything else they've tried, and they'll back off.
But they'll launch something new.
We start asking after this hoax is over, what will the new hoax be?
So that article that Alex is citing as proof that these Democratic governors want to hold cities hostage isn't an article with any sources or any real writing.
It's a page on Infowars.com, which just has an embedded video of David Knight's episode from that day.
It's not proof of anything.
They get to give their articles whatever headlines they want.
On newswars.com and infowars.com that's absolutely got to get out.
Representative introduced a companion bill in the House.
Hawley tweeted yesterday, proud to partner with the other congresspeople to introduce this bicameral resolution calling for China to compensate USA and all other affected countries for the harm and destruction the Communist Party unleashed with their lies and deception about the coronavirus.
While the brainwashed masses dutifully cower in their homes on the government behest, enemies from within usher in a new era of CPP dominance.
So how exactly would Josh Hawley get damages from China, a sovereign country, without the existence of some international governing body that could oversee disputes between sovereign countries?
Outside of international law that every country is subject to, how would this even work?
The very thing that Alex is celebrating, this congressperson demanding is legitimately impossible without the very system he's built his career fighting against.
So Alex now goes to his interview with E. Michael Jones, noted anti-Semite and Catholic fascist.
He is on, because he made a video about the coronavirus.
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I bet it's very measured and has a lot of good advice, and it's telling people our guest has done a really powerful video we'll tell you about, and we've only got him for about two and a half segments.
So on Alex's show, this is just a professor who is collaborating with the Chinese government.
E. Michael Jones makes it sound possibly more salacious than the actual facts of the case might merit, but the thrust of it is just that there's a guy who's collaborating with China.
Now, I'll read to you from his article on his website, Culture Wars.
Quote, Lieber, who is Jewish, was considered a flight risk because of his ties to Israel, causing authorities to demand that both he and his wife surrender their passports.
Lieber is one of the founders of the bio tech firm Nonsys, which is affiliated with the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
Lieber being Jewish is very important to E. Michael Jones on his website because that's what his work is all about.
He's a gigantic anti-Semite.
However, to disguise the true intention of his propaganda, he leaves some of that stuff out.
When he's talking to someone like Alex, you could cast the wide net.
And then once people come in, they see what it's really about once they're already ready to hear it.
And it's crazy that E. Michael Jones, also his big source is Francis Boyle, who's the guy who comes on Alex's show, almost like these all people are working from the same well.
The thing that's just occurring to me now is if the Chinese government is saying that this was a weapon and that they have the right to respond, maybe they have responded.
This is what occurred to me.
Maybe New York was a response to a bioweapon launched by China.
So on the surface, this appears to be just Alex being opposed to porn because it has negative influences on intimacy or whatever.
He's not a fuddy-duddy conservative, but don't beat off.
Whatever.
Who cares?
However, if you know what E. Michael Jones believes, this is a deeply anti-Semitic conversation.
He believes that the Jews created and promoted pornography as an attack on the non-Jewish family structure.
It's a very large piece of his worldview, and anyone who's familiar with his work knows this very well.
Thus, if you're someone who knows E. Michael Jones and you hear this conversation, I honestly couldn't blame you for thinking that Alex was agreeing with him that the Jews are attacking families with porno.
I don't believe that Alex doesn't know this.
I have a hard time believing he'd be so oblivious to the people he platforms that he'd be having a conversation about E. Michael Jones' exact talking points, but leaving out the Jewish part.
This reads to me as an intentional attempt to whitewash anti-Semitic rhetoric on his show.
But then again, Alex may or may not know if John Rappaport believes viruses are real.
They did the crash on purpose and released the virus at the same time to be the smokescreen for the collapse, which would be actually a martial law consolidation that would then be used to drive nationalists from office.
You know, like I'm not, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Alex didn't early on talk about like the causing a financial collapse and stuff like that.
I think that there's a part of that that is the case.
But then I think that there's also a part that like, I think Alex is keenly aware of the fact that like he knows he's been lying for years.
Like all the stuff he talks about is like, there's no stakes to it because it's not real.
He hates his audience.
So like he doesn't care if it's damaging to them.
That's fair.
He doesn't care.
It's just like constant bullshit that just is to facilitate whatever like growing narratives that he has that helps him sell stuff and helps him push reactionary, extreme right-wing beliefs.
So like he knows on a certain level, like every time he yells about school shootings being fake, he knows that it's bullshit.
So whatever comes of it, no big deal.
Who gives a shit?
And we're in a situation right now where neither you nor I can predict what's going to happen.
But the experts, the people who are into the fields that are relevant are people you should be listening to.
And they all have dire warnings.
The countries that have gone down the paths that Alex would like to recommend people going down, even if they change their path too late, are in bad places.
That's not something that his narratives can really do anything about.
Like he can later try and create an explanation.
Like I said, he can rewrite this to be like, oh, it was Mnuchin and the globalists that wanted people to go back to work so they'd get sick.
And, you know, he can do that.
But this is not the same as lying about a school shooting or any of the other stuff.
Yeah, I give it a week before Trump holds a prep conference and they beat Fauci's head to death because a fucking severed pig's head told him it's a good idea.
You may notice that we are doing this episode on Friday.
We have some plans to keep y'all company as best we can through this trying time.
We'll at least be doing Monday, Wednesday, Friday episodes for the foreseeable timeframe, and there might be some little sneaky other things along the way, but we'll see about that.