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March 11, 2020 - Knowledge Fight
02:50:06
#407: March 5-10, 2020

Today, Dan and Jordan set out to cover the period of the Alex Jones Show in the immediate aftermath of him shaving his head to see if it changed his vibe. In this installment, Alex's convoluted coronavirus narratives continue, Alex tells a tale of a night in jail, and has his mind blown by Rush.

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alex jones
39:09
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dan friesen
01:30:43
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jordan holmes
27:14
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francis a boyle
02:00
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mike adams
01:39
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roger stone
00:05
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Jordan.
Let me ask you a quick question.
dan friesen
Ooh, questions.
unidentified
I know.
jordan holmes
This one's out of left field.
dan friesen
Is this about enchiladas?
jordan holmes
This whole thing.
Love them.
When did you get your first microphone?
dan friesen
My first microphone.
jordan holmes
For this type of purpose.
For recording, you know, like this kind of thing.
I'm not saying when did you start your first podcast.
I'm saying, like, when did you first, like, I'm going to do this shit.
dan friesen
I would have been back in Missouri probably 2000.
It's been a long time.
jordan holmes
We're old, though.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, when I was a much younger man, like I've talked about before, I always wanted to do radio.
I always wanted to be, like, have my own radio show, and that wasn't a possibility.
And then once I discovered the podcasting was a thing.
I wanted to try and do it.
So I, I don't know, early.
jordan holmes
So there wasn't any kind of moment where...
dan friesen
And then I also had to buy a microphone because I was trying to crack into voiceover work.
jordan holmes
Ah, there we go.
dan friesen
And you have to record your own little auditions to send to clients and folks.
Zero gigs came from that.
A lot of time spent recording.
Stuff about brickstone tires.
What a waste of time.
jordan holmes
Give me a spot.
Can you think of any...
dan friesen
Give me a product.
jordan holmes
Okay, let's go with...
There's a car sale.
dan friesen
For what?
What's the name of the car dealership?
jordan holmes
Brockman's Auto Delivery.
dan friesen
Come on down to Brockman's...
I don't know why I want to do this.
Anyway, I don't know about microphones, but I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And I don't know much about either.
dan friesen
Right, so Jordan, today we've got a lot on our plate.
Got a lot going on, as anybody listening may assume and understand.
jordan holmes
I can't think of any news that might have happened.
dan friesen
On Tuesday the 10th, Alex got a DUI.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
And we'll talk about that at the end of the episode, because...
Up till the point that that news broke, I already had a whole episode planned.
jordan holmes
Once again, Alex fucked you.
You did it.
You had this episode prepared two days in advance.
dan friesen
Not two days in advance, but certainly more than a couple hours ago.
Yep, I had it all ready to go.
Hey guys, today we're going to be talking about March 5th through 9th, 2020.
I'm Dan, it's 2020.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
And it was all going to be great, and now Alex had to go get a fucking DUI, and now we've got to add March 10th to it.
jordan holmes
That asshole.
dan friesen
So anyway, it's like that Steve Martin thing.
You know back when he would do one movie for me, one for the studios?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what this is.
I know that the people want to hear about Alex's DUI.
jordan holmes
That's the one for you.
dan friesen
But for me, I'm going to talk about some of Alex's bullshit first.
So we'll get down to business on that.
But before we do, we've got to take a little moment, Jordan, to say thank you to the folks that make this possible and are supporting the show.
So first, Ben, thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you, Ben.
Next, Benjamin.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Benjamin.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Roxanne.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Roxanne.
dan friesen
Next, Kevin.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thanks, Kevin.
Next, Kristen.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Kristen.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Brendan.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you, Brendan.
Next, Damon.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Damon.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
And then finally, I'd like to say thank you to a couple people donated on an elevated level.
We appreciate that very much.
So first, Lisa.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Thomas.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right.
We got to go full tilt boogie on this Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Elisa, and thank you so much, Thomas.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I enjoyed the show, I'd like to support what these gents do, you can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show, we would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
It'd be lovely.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, on our last episode on Monday, we were going over last week on Alex's show.
We were going over the beginning of last week.
In the pre-shaving his head.
Right.
We made that division on purpose.
New Alex, new life.
We're going to jump in on Thursday here on March 5th because that is right when Alex has shaved his head.
jordan holmes
It's big news.
dan friesen
It is, but he does not want to talk about it.
He doesn't want to talk about it.
jordan holmes
I bet he will.
dan friesen
He doesn't bring it up for quite a while.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah, he just sits there with his big old bald head.
alex jones
That is bullshit!
dan friesen
Yeah.
He does actually start the show on a very familiar note, talking about the coronavirus situation.
But in this out-of-context drop that we will play, he reveals that he meant to start the show talking about something else.
alex jones
Boy, there's footage I haven't aired yet of a homeless person eating poop that DrudgeReport.com linked to, and I meant to start the show with it, but I just...
dan friesen
You meant to start the show with it.
jordan holmes
Great.
Great.
Okay.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
I don't want to start my morning like that.
No.
That's before lunch, right?
dan friesen
This is 11?
unidentified
No, I'm not watching that 11 o 'clock.
dan friesen
No, that's like 10 in California.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, it's like 9 in California.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I don't know time zones, but I know a lot about Alex Jones.
Jordan's got a lot of meat.
Just restart.
So we start here on the 5th, and this is how Alex actually does start off the show.
Talking about how...
Maybe mass hysteria around an outbreak.
Maybe it's inevitable.
alex jones
When things happen like that, humans are mammals.
And we see what other humans do, and we behave the same way at a very deep level.
We believe in the knowledge of the crowd.
I'll have to use this analogy a hundred times.
I'll do it again.
You don't know where you are in some small town.
Back before Google was ubiquitous with reviews, which you can now believe.
At first they were good because Google let you actually vote.
Now it's all scam in most cases.
But before that, you pulled into a small town in Colorado or Michigan or New York and you see the restaurant with lines out the door.
That's got the good food.
Restaurant with four or five cars, you're going to get food poisoning there.
jordan holmes
Just a great analysis.
alex jones
You don't need to go into that restaurant.
It has four cars in it to find out there's a meth head running it and they're dealing drugs out of the back.
You just know that's a creepy looking place.
dan friesen
There are so many great restaurants that are not crowded.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sometimes the greatest restaurants are the ones that you can't find.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is a foolish way to look.
And I'm not even entirely sure what point he's trying to make and how it connects, but I just take issue with this because my favorite Thai place is...
Always empty.
jordan holmes
It's really good.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's fantastic.
That's because I think a lot of people get takeout or delivery.
But yeah, always empty.
If you went there, you'd see a completely empty dining area.
You'd be like, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
And it only seats like 15 people, too.
dan friesen
If that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so this is stupid.
Anyway, Alex talks about that Lancet study, if you'll recall.
Up to this point, he's been using that Lancet study that looked at just a couple of very extreme cases of folks who had already developed from the virus into the pneumonia stage.
And they were looking at a small subsection of people, and they predicted a 15% mortality rate.
Excuse me.
Not predicted.
They said there was that of this small sample size.
Alex has been using that to say that Lancet was saying that the whole world would have a 15% mortality rate from the virus.
Now it's interesting.
He now knows what that study actually was about.
alex jones
You know, Lanzet had a limited thing five weeks ago of just 47 deaths.
They needed at least 65 to get a decent reading.
But with the ones they had, it was a 15% death rate or so.
But obviously those people are already super sick, and so it's not a good focus group.
It's not a good test group.
It's a proper term.
So, whew, because, I mean, if it was 15%, I would be in a bunker somewhere.
dan friesen
So Alex now knows.
jordan holmes
Is he like months behind on our show?
Did he just catch up?
dan friesen
Did he just catch up?
Now he knows that, which is important because he has that information inside his head.
But he doesn't say this as a correction.
He's not saying that as like a, well, I misreported this.
I had that wrong.
Sorry about that.
No, he just now knows what that actually is.
So that's interesting.
Hold on to that for later.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex gets off track from the virus, and he starts talking a little bit about the Democratic primary.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He has some feelings about Biden being the presumptive nominee.
jordan holmes
He's just holding the front for Gabbard to come from behind, right?
dan friesen
Nope.
But he is holding the front for somebody, and it's Hillary Rodham Clinton.
alex jones
What are they planning behind that?
You know.
You don't know that she admits that they're trying to sell Hillary to flood her in as the VP and then he has a stroke like other presidents have had.
Woodrow Wilson brought us the New World Order first and then enters Hillary because there's a cult of Hillary in the bureaucracy and a messianic vision that she's supposed to take over and rule everyone.
These leftists still believe in the cult of Hillary.
So we'll discuss.
All of that.
dan friesen
You still believe in the cult of Hillary.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You are the one, Alex.
Every single person, save for Bernie, he's like, oh, they're going to get in, is all just about Trojan-horsing Hillary.
Bloomberg was going to make her the VP.
Now Biden's going to make her the VP.
Before, when it was the impeachment stuff, it's like, oh, they're going to impeach Trump and Pence.
Pelosi's going to get in, make Hillary the VP.
She's going to step down Hillary's president.
unidentified
He's the one who's doing this.
jordan holmes
No, it was our plan all along.
You know how the leftists have really coalesced around Hillary Clinton after she failed miserably?
That one was us.
That's us.
dan friesen
I mean, it's not to say that there isn't any support for Hillary.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that's what you're saying, but this is outrageous.
The levels to which Alex wants to be fighting Hillary again.
And he can't just be like, alright.
I'll critique her documentary or whatever.
He wants to actually pretend it's the halls of power he's fighting over with her.
So in that clip a couple back, he was talking about the Lancet thing.
He's like, if it's 5% mortality rate, I'm getting out of here.
I'm getting out of here.
jordan holmes
It's time to go.
dan friesen
Right.
And it turns out Alex has made some preparations on that front.
alex jones
I told my personal assistant.
Three months ago, I said the time has come.
I said I just have a feeling that things are dangerous with the economy, and even if Trump wins, I guess I've got to get a farmhouse 100 miles in the middle of nowhere, around no towns, in the crappiest brush area where no one even knows where I'm at.
I need to just load it with storable food and an underground safe with guns in it just to have that covered, that box checked, because I don't have that.
dan friesen
So, the Unabomber box.
jordan holmes
You gotta check the Unabomber box.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
In early March, Alex doesn't have that.
And a couple months ago, he told a personal assistant to set this up for him.
Which is weird, because on January 31st, this is what he said.
alex jones
I'm a father.
I've gotta be in charge.
I'm trying to prepare for the future.
You know, I've got a little armored redoubt outside town.
You know, four or five acres with a gun safe and food.
Because...
I'm not living in fear.
I'm living empowered.
dan friesen
Do you have an armored redoubt or do you not?
What is the deal?
jordan holmes
See, now, in this situation, I think it's a good idea to say both.
Because then nobody knows for sure.
dan friesen
That's fair.
jordan holmes
You know, you're going to go looking for it.
dan friesen
Schrodinger's redoubt.
jordan holmes
Exactly, exactly.
You don't want people knowing that you have a redoubt.
What's the best way to hide it?
Tell them that you have a redoubt and be a years-long liar.
dan friesen
Yeah, you've got to keep the mystery in the air.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
If you know for sure Alex has a redoubt, you can follow him.
If you don't believe it exists, maybe you'll leave him alone.
jordan holmes
You can go follow that other guy with a redoubt.
dan friesen
So I've made a bit of a point of the fact that Alex cannot pronounce the name of Brazilian President Bolsonaro.
I've made a little bit of a point of that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
One thing I haven't made as much of a point of is how he also can't pronounce Erdogan.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He always pronounces it Erdogan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, I know.
dan friesen
And so he gets a little self-conscious about the fact that he mispronounces Erdogan's name all the time in this next clip.
alex jones
The Islamists have launched big invasions now in phase two into Europe with Erdogan right behind it.
I know I get calls every time it's Erdogan.
Whatever.
Some say Erdogan or say Erdogan.
You say Erdogan.
Daria, is it Erdogan or Erdogan?
Erdogan is correct.
Okay.
I'm not very good at pronouncing some things sometimes.
At least I got that right.
dan friesen
Alex is incorrect.
As is his supposed linguist expert, Daria.
In Turkish, the G is often pronounced with a soft W sound, and the correct way to pronounce the name of the Turkish president is Erdogan.
This actually was covered a bit in the news because when Erdogan visited the White House in May 2017, Trump kept pronouncing it with the G sound, and it caused a lot of folks to write articles consulting with linguists and Turkish experts, and guess what?
All of them said his name is pronounced Erdogan.
jordan holmes
None of them asked Daria, though.
dan friesen
That's true.
That's true, because she would have given them the wrong answer, because why she's not consulted on these matters.
jordan holmes
I think she knows for sure, but she was just like, I'm not doing this.
dan friesen
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
Fuck it.
It's Erdogan.
dan friesen
Fine.
But that goes to show the level of who gives a shit going on at Infowars.
Like, yeah, you're right, Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
That's why nothing ever gets checked and things just keep proceeding onward down the dumb path that it's on.
So Alex gets a ways through the show and he hasn't made note of the fact that he's shaved his dumb head yet.
And he brings it up.
But he refuses to say that he's bald or that he shaved his head.
He's trying to tease the audience by mentioning that his appearance is different, but he wants you to go to his own website so you can see it for yourself.
jordan holmes
If you haven't seen a friend for a month and they just show up with a mustache and don't tell you about the mustache, all you're looking at them is just like, dude, what's with the mustache?
Tell me about the mustache.
And they're like, no, my job is going to...
No!
dan friesen
What I think is going on is Alex is trying to use the idea that he looks like something different to tease anyone who might be listening on shortwave or on the radio to go to his website.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That's what I think is going on.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
dan friesen
Or he just refuses to say the word bald because he's insecure or something.
alex jones
Broadcasting worldwide on this transmission brought to you by Beluga Whales.
I woke up this morning and I said, I kind of look like a cute little beluga.
You couldn't be mean to a cute little beluga.
jordan holmes
A balduga.
alex jones
No, things are so serious.
I got up this morning and I said, what can I do to note to everybody that we're in a very serious time now that we're already making jokes?
And, well, it's what we've done here on air.
If you're a radio listener, you might want to go to InfoWars.com forward slash show or NewsWars.com forward slash show and check it out and then share that link.
A little something different here on the set of the radio slash TV transmission today.
And I'm going to leave it at that.
I told the crew not to really make a note of it, but they had their beluga joke ready, so I let them go with it.
I must look like a beluga, because I already thought of myself, and they already spontaneously had a beluga ready, so that's my new spirit animal, is a beluga.
Well, they're those nice little creatures.
Okay, let's get serious.
jordan holmes
Lex.
That sounded very serious.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That sounded like a very insecure man.
dan friesen
I think he very seriously told the staff not to use the word bald.
jordan holmes
Please don't make a big deal of this.
Please.
It's just...
Please don't.
dan friesen
And hey, to be fair, I want to be clear.
I think it doesn't look bad.
I'm not going to be a dick about this and be like, oh, Alex, look, you're...
I mean, I'm going to say it's his big dumb head, but I don't think it looks bad.
It'll take a while to get used to, but I don't think it looks terrible.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
He could grow into it quite well, which he might be doing in a prison cell.
Except he's not, because the DUI is a misdemeanor.
Anyway, Alex gets to talking about the virus news, the coronavirus news, but it's too intense.
It's absolutely too intense to get to, so he does what he does best, which is pretend he's going to go take some phone calls.
alex jones
You know what's going on right now.
The coronavirus news is so intense, so horrible, so scary for me that I'm eating around the edges of it.
Not-so-hungry caterpillar and not getting into it, but it's killing a lot of people around the world.
It's very communicable.
It's man-made.
I want to know your take on it.
dan friesen
So, he goes to the calls, and this is one of the things you really shouldn't do if you do a show like Alex's.
Like, if you're, like, there's big, intense coronavirus news that I need to cover, but I can't.
So I'm nibbling around like a caterpillar.
Instead, what I'm going to do is go to the calls.
Because you know what happens when he goes to the calls on issues like this.
jordan holmes
They say very insightful and powerful things.
dan friesen
Loop it around.
Opposite.
They say very dumb things, and he thinks they're really smart.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
As this first caller does.
We've already had Alex establish that he thinks this is a race-specific bioweapon.
And now it turns out...
It might also be age-specific as a bio.
unidentified
I'm actually nervous to air what I think about the coronavirus, even on this show.
So that should tell you something.
alex jones
Well, lay it on me, brother, because I feel something big.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
So they keep saying that we shouldn't worry about it if we're young and healthy.
It's only old people and compromised people that should worry, right?
What is our largest unfunded liability in this country?
We're $23 trillion in debt.
alex jones
It's people over 70. And hell, Bill Gates says get rid of the old people.
The liberals say the case for killing granny.
unidentified
So yesterday on Fox News, they had a doctor on that said, hey, I expect to get this and you should too.
But unless you're old, don't worry about it.
So what would happen if, you know, we know that the biggest transfer of wealth in the country is going to occur as the older generation passes, the baby boomer generation passes.
What if the government was able to receive some of that money, i.e.
have a huge crisis with this coronavirus thing?
alex jones
Sir, I totally agree with you that it's at least a beta test for that, because China already had a one-child policy and killed almost 400 million girls.
So don't think that governments don't think like this.
Bill Gates has said this at TED Talks and at other events.
We can play the clips.
So they're saying it.
You better damn well believe.
Oh, and who is involved cooking up a vaccine for it?
And who owns the chimera virus?
Oh, a subgroup Bill Gates funds.
Wow, you just can't make that up.
unidentified
You did.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can.
unidentified
I haven't heard anyone say that yet, and just to come out of my mouth, it's so disturbing.
alex jones
Now, we're going to post this as a video report at Bandot Video.
The headline is, Is Corona an age-specific bioweapon to kill the elderly before they get Social Security?
Is coronavirus an age-specific bioweapon targeting the elderly?
I think that's a very...
Reasonable statement because it's man-made.
Thank you, sir.
dan friesen
It's not man-made.
That is not a reasonable statement.
jordan holmes
That's a very reasonable statement.
dan friesen
This is how easy it is to get Alex to jump on something as like, oh my god, we're going to report this as a possibility.
jordan holmes
Oh god.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, I guess...
My biggest feeling about that would be just like, that is a demonstration of how loose the gates are.
Whatever dumb thought you have, Alex is going to treat it as like, oh my god, yes, this is probably a beta test of an age-specific bioweapon.
jordan holmes
Alex, I haven't heard anybody talk about this before, but...
Do you know, like, the first letter in virus, do you know what that is?
It's a V. For Vendetta.
No, for virgin.
It's a virgin-specific bioweapon.
dan friesen
We're going to post this on the website with the headline, go out there and fuck so you don't get the virus.
jordan holmes
Also, Alex, did you shave your head recently?
dan friesen
Belugas.
Gotta go.
So, Alex gets to, there's a weird trend that goes on throughout some of this time, and that is that Alex is now...
Descended into a place where he's threatening to murder people if any of his family members get coronavirus.
jordan holmes
That's a good place to be.
dan friesen
And it begins here, and I think this is maybe an implicit...
Or an implied threat against Obama.
Okay.
Kind of.
Because as you may recall, Alex believes that Obama sold the virus to the Chinese back in 2015 because he doesn't know how to read.
jordan holmes
Which makes Obama at fault for any of his family members.
dan friesen
That's how that tracks.
alex jones
That's the thing about HIV is that it comes back over and over again.
This has an HIV delivery system, but that wouldn't be enough.
It's then got a whole bunch of different viruses together.
That do different things that attack different parts.
So yeah, it's a nightmare virus because it hits you and hits you and hits you.
But no one wants to discuss that.
No one's supposed to talk about that.
And that's why I am so pissed.
And let me tell you, it's not a threatening thing to say, but any of my family dies from this.
Well, you just fill in the blank.
It's time to start holding certain people responsible for this type of crap.
And Obama...
unidentified
Shipped.
alex jones
That garbage in 2015.
In fact, bring me my coronavirus file, please.
All three of them, please.
Pull up the Journal of Science.
There was a big stir when he did that.
dan friesen
No, there wasn't.
So, leaving aside that Alex doesn't even have the most basic understanding of how HIV works, I wanted to explain what he's talking about when he says that the virus has an HIV delivery system.
This is just him not understanding the difference between the furin cleavage and the ACE2 cleavage situation.
In the past, viruses like the coronaviruses were taken in by the body through ACE2 sites, cleaving the virus.
But the quirk of this one, according to that one report, that one study, was that it appears to cleave with fewer insights, which is also true of HIV.
This is not the same thing as the coronavirus having an HIV delivery system or anything like that.
It's just a different way that things are absorbed into the body.
There are many things that use furin cleavage other than HIV, from the normal flu to Ebola, from dengue fever to anthrax.
Alex is pretending that the coronavirus has something from HIV added to it, but in reality, he just doesn't understand the topic he's covering at all.
Also, there's literally zero evidence that this coronavirus is man-made.
There's no evidence that it's a ton of different viruses in one.
That's all just a product of Alex's demented imagination that he's reporting as fact to his audience.
The article he uses to prove that Obama sold the virus to China proves literally nothing of the sort.
When he says that there was a big stir when Obama did that, what he's lying about is the fact that he found an article about a lab in North Carolina experimenting with giving a coronavirus gain of function in terms of that ACE2 cleavage and how there was a debate in the scientific community about whether or not experiments like that were ethical.
He can provide literally zero evidence to support those claims that he makes that there was a big debate about Obama selling the virus to China because it never happened.
It's a lie.
That being said, I think Alex is trying to threaten to kill Obama if one of his relatives die of the coronavirus, but he also doesn't want to say that on air.
Because that might involve another conversation with a lawyer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would definitely keep that one quiet.
That would be a smart one.
It seems very easy to stick a Uranium One to somebody these days.
It took zero time at all for it to be like, Obama's Uranium One, let's move on.
It's his fault.
Come on!
Everybody look over here!
dan friesen
And one of the things that you'll see over the course of these episodes is that there is a crystallization of it down to just these blunt talking points where it's Obama sold the virus.
It's man-made.
There's no debate about it.
This has been determined.
This is decided.
And just like a dogged persistence and repetition of it so the audience just gets the sound bite.
And you'll see that over the course of this.
But Alex goes to break.
He comes back.
And the theme music is feeling good.
Of course, you belong to the city.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
And I've noticed a trend that Alex can't not give a speech over that saxophone.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but how do you not give a speech over saxophone if you've got the chance?
dan friesen
I don't dispute that it's very human as an impulse.
But Alex, it's like the siren song to him.
He can't not talk about space and human destiny.
jordan holmes
Saxophones do stuff to people.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's true.
unidentified
You can hear it.
You can hear it.
You wanna make it.
Cause you can take it.
alex jones
Turn loose with all the fear.
Turn loose of everything that came before.
Because the fight is now.
And only God can sustain us in the victory against Satan and the AI.
Machine war that's coming.
But in the end, we're going to win.
And then, the next level of the transformation will be upon us.
We belong to the stars and God.
And that's from which we came, and that is to where we'll go.
We came from space.
Star to star, the universe opens before us.
dan friesen
If that wasn't Alex Jones, I could be pretty enjoyable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that'd be great.
I would really enjoy that.
As long as there's none of his other shit, like the racism and the Jesus everything that falls from that, it'd be great.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just a guy rambling over saxophone about our destiny is to the stars.
Great.
jordan holmes
I feel like I would fall asleep to that and then wake up really, really ready to go every morning.
dan friesen
I feel like I could do some time on the treadmill to that.
Really get me pumped up.
jordan holmes
I would.
dan friesen
So Alex takes another call, and I don't know how to tell you what's going on here other than I think this dude is super rude.
unidentified
So yes, I was in Costco a couple weeks ago.
I was getting ready.
I went to buy a bunch of toilet paper and some things before the crowds really hit.
And I had my phone.
I had a show going on and sticking out in my pocket so I could hear it.
I wasn't using headphones.
And this lady starts to say, who are you listening to?
Who is that talking?
At first, I thought, because of where I live, it's quite a leftist city, and I thought I might get some flack.
But I said, this is Alex Jones.
And she just got, her eyes got wide open, and she says, really?
I thought he was off the air.
And I said, no.
And I told her, I explained, you know, the whole situation and told her where to go.
She wrote down, you know, band.video and also infowars.com and just said she's still on.
dan friesen
Alex spends a not insignificant portion of this show expounding on how the man and the globalists want everyone to think he's off the air, but he's not!
Every day he meets people who think that he's off air, but then he tells them they can still find him on Infowars' website, and they're so happy to hear it.
This caller is what kicks that off, that whole rant, and I have a few thoughts.
First, I don't care what you're playing.
If you're walking around in a store listening to things without headphones, you're a fucking asshole.
If it's music, you're an asshole.
If it's a liberal talk show, you're an asshole.
If it's Alex Jones, a man who's known to launch into rants about demons raping children with little warning, you're a bigger asshole.
jordan holmes
No, it's a family show that you're walking around.
It's like having Home Improvement playing on your phone as you walk through the store.
dan friesen
He talked about casting Mike Bloomberg in a gangbang video on the last show.
You can't play that in public.
No matter what this guy's story is about, if it starts with him casually mentioning that he was listening to Alex's show at a Costco without headlines, fuck this dude.
He's an asshole.
Second, there have been a lot of points made about how panic buying of things you don't need to panic buy is probably one of the more damaging things people can do right now.
It's the disruption of the demand chain that can have just as many negative consequences as the supply chain disruptions can have.
And based on this guy saying he was stocking up on toilet paper, I'm going to say that he was not engaging in responsible preparation.
jordan holmes
He was responsibly stocking up on mountains upon mountains of toilet paper.
dan friesen
He bought a very minuscule amount of stocking up on toilet paper.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Do you mean just like an extra couple weeks where the toilet paper?
dan friesen
Maybe just a few rolls.
jordan holmes
That seems right.
dan friesen
I have no idea how much he was buying, but it wasn't a good sign.
Finally, and most importantly, if you've been on air for 26 years and you've built up a fan base that decides that you must be completely off air because you get kicked off social media, something that didn't even exist when your career began, then I don't know what to tell you.
Something is wrong with that fanbase.
Either they're so hopeless that they can't find your shit unless it's shoveled right in front of their faces, or they didn't like you enough to seek you out once the YouTube algorithms weren't constantly pushing your videos on them.
Either way, that's not a solid fan base.
And I wouldn't blame the globalists for that.
That's just the byproduct of making a dumb show that attracts a fickle type of crowd.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it turns out InfoWarriors are very capricious in nature.
Nobody would have seen that coming.
dan friesen
No.
And the weird thing is, I was listening around the time Alex got banned from social media, and he knew it was coming.
And he tried to prepare.
He was promoting his newsletter.
He was trying to drive traffic to his own website.
And I guess people just didn't follow.
If all these people think that you were just off air, that's a bad fan base.
unidentified
I'm not into it.
jordan holmes
I mean, just being moved from the first page to the second page of Google will destroy anybody.
But a fan base is going to be fine.
If they're a fan base.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Anyway.
Alex believes that the CDC is doing some sort of a cover-up.
If I understand correctly, the thing that they did is try to make the coronavirus situation not seem very bad by not rolling out and providing tests.
To make the numbers of cases lower, and then Trump wouldn't take it seriously, and then they would...
Put out all of the tests.
There'd be a ton of people, a ton of cases.
Trump would look like a dick.
jordan holmes
Brilliant.
dan friesen
Mission accomplished.
jordan holmes
Brilliant plan.
dan friesen
Now, in this next clip...
jordan holmes
I see no flaws in it.
dan friesen
In this next clip, Alex kind of implies, and by implies I mean directly says, that Trump is involved in this cover.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Which is not good.
jordan holmes
So wait, is Trump killing members of Alex's family?
dan friesen
He might be involved in the cover-up of the thing that leads to Alex's family's death.
jordan holmes
Now we know.
alex jones
We know.
I mean, you can blame the CDC, Trump, and I'm never for cover-ups, but I get why they're doing it, whether it's Trump or the CDC, but I think Trump's involved.
Let's just be honest.
They're not sending out cats.
They sent out faulty ones on purpose.
They know it's been here.
Steve Pachinik really is smart.
He is tied into special operations and all of them.
And he said it on air.
He said it's been here for six months.
It's already killed a bunch of people.
And we're just going to make it through it.
dan friesen
Steve Pachanek, also the guy who said that he was patient zero of the coronavirus and he cured himself.
He's cured himself.
jordan holmes
He cured himself.
dan friesen
He knows a lot.
He's very good at this stuff.
jordan holmes
Suspiciously has not shared that cure with anyone else.
dan friesen
It's just tons of antibiotics.
Tons of antibiotics.
jordan holmes
What an idiot.
dan friesen
So there's a cover-up going on, and now Trump is complicit in it.
unidentified
He's involved.
jordan holmes
And look, Alex, of course, has historically been against government cover-ups.
On account of, you know, how the government shouldn't cover things up.
unidentified
But now it's like, I get why the government needs to cover this up.
jordan holmes
People will go crazy, Dan.
You and I can know about the cover-up, but the regular folk, ooh, we can't have that.
dan friesen
It's weird for him to make a statement like that.
Like, the executive of the federal government is...
Engaged in a cover-up that's putting people at risk.
I understand why he's doing it.
It's totally cool.
Hey, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
He's a good guy.
dan friesen
1995, Alex Jones wants to yell at you through a bullhorn.
So we finally get to the point where Alex brings up that he has shaved his head.
And it turns out he does sort of give a reason.
alex jones
I'm not scared.
I'm like ready to get in a fight.
And I think that's what all this symbolizes.
You know, shaving my head this morning.
I got up and I said, I'm shaving my head.
And I said, it's just a symbol of we're in a war, folks.
And when you really go into a war, you shave your head so people don't grab your hair.
And that's just an archetypal image of this is not normal.
We're not in normal waters here.
We're in a war.
People better get that through their heads.
That's all I'm saying.
I think you all know that as well.
We don't want to get played into hysteria.
No, no, no.
We're concerned because our gut knows something big is going on.
The question is, what is it?
dan friesen
How is that not hysteria?
I shaved my head to give an archetypal metaphorical symbol to the audience that we're literally in trench warfare, and I did that so no one could grab my hair while we're fighting.
jordan holmes
Dan, everybody knows that it's coming from his gut.
Hysteria.
Comes from, we all know this, the anus.
And there we go.
dan friesen
Right.
So that's conceivably why Alex shaved his head, was to make him look like a soldier or something.
I'm not entirely sure, but he does give another reason later.
jordan holmes
When a white guy shaves his head because he's looking for a fight, that usually doesn't go well.
dan friesen
Yeah, don't like it.
jordan holmes
No, it's not good.
dan friesen
He gives another reason later that I actually think is probably more believable, and we'll get to that in a minute.
Before we do, though, Alex has got to take another really stupid caller.
unidentified
First of all, I've been hearing a lot.
One of the theories out there is that this is going to burn itself out when the weather gets warm.
Well, my concern is when the weather gets warm, what else comes out?
Mosquitoes.
Ticks.
alex jones
Oh, my gosh.
And they can spread it.
roger stone
What happens when you supercharge mosquitoes with the coronavirus?
unidentified
How is the dyslexia warm going to dull it down?
I think it's going to pump it with nitrous oxide, like a race car.
Okay.
alex jones
Man, that's why I love taking calls.
dan friesen
Asshole.
Couple of assholes here.
jordan holmes
What if ticks get it?
dan friesen
So, right now, there's no evidence that mosquitoes can carry or transmit the coronavirus, and there's a very good chance that it's just not even possible.
There's actually a good teachable moment here.
Mosquitoes can transmit things like Ebola, malaria, dengue fever, primarily because those things can infect the mosquitoes themselves.
The only thing that a mosquito puts into a person when it bites them is their saliva.
So no matter what blood they have ingested, it doesn't matter.
That's not what's going to get transmitted to the bit person.
This is because there's a two-tube proboscis that a mosquito uses to feed on your blood.
One tube is the intake tube that sucks your blood, and you don't get exposed to anything from that.
It's a one-way street.
The other tube is used to inject saliva that makes you not feel the bite and gives you itchiness.
So the saliva of the mosquito is the vector that you need to be concerned with for the potential of mosquito-borne illnesses.
This is one of the reasons that HIV cannot be spread by mosquitoes.
They don't possess the correct cells in their body to serve as hosts for the HIV, and thus it doesn't survive in mosquitoes and can't be transmitted through their saliva.
Historically, diseases in the coronavirus family, such as MERS and SARS, those aren't things that are known to be spread by mosquitoes.
At this point, all experts I can find who have commented on the matter are uniform in the position that there's no evidence right now that this is a vector of transmission that we're seeing or are likely to see.
Mosquito-borne diseases are no joke, though, and they're a very serious threat in certain circumstances.
jordan holmes
They've killed half the humans that have ever lived.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Like, I mean, you brought up malaria.
In a lot of places, it's a very serious issue.
But this doesn't appear to be one of those circumstances where mosquitoes are going to play a huge role.
Obviously, anything's possible.
But this caller, what he's doing is just coming up with a horrible scenario and saying, what about that?
And Alex is there.
He's like, oh my god, I love taking calls.
jordan holmes
Every time Alex's callers call in, we get a nice little magic school bus segment on this show where it's like...
Alright, he came up with some terrible ideas.
Now let's go inside the body and discover how it is that people actually work.
dan friesen
I knew this because a buddy of mine who's a doctor, he and I had a long conversation about it because I didn't understand that whole thing of like, why can't some things be transmitted by mosquitoes?
He had to explain it to me.
jordan holmes
I'm grateful you explained it to me.
I'm not going to come in here acting like I knew what I was thinking about.
dan friesen
But the issue here is, with this caller and what Alex are doing, it's baseless fear-mongering.
This is hysteria.
This is making a nightmare scenario and acting like there's any reason to think that this is something to be concerned about.
It's hysterical.
jordan holmes
Alex, movies are predictive programming.
Have you ever seen The Birds?
I think they're coming.
Does this have anything to do with the virus?
I don't know.
I think they're coming!
dan friesen
Could be.
So this is the big one, the coronavirus.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Earlier, Alex said that Trump was involved in the cover-up.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I kind of thought that that was just a stray thing he said.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But in this next clip, you'll clearly hear this is not just something he said.
He thinks that Trump is probably covering this up.
alex jones
It's official!
March 5th, Thursday, 2020, 242 out from the election.
Coronavirus is the big one.
So far, for bioweapons, man-made, creating total fear, government's using it to create hysteria and lockdowns of civilization.
Trump trying to play it down.
I understand why.
I can't fault him for it.
Why?
The testing, they are covering it up.
That's even in the news now.
And the left is using it against the president just like...
dan friesen
In that clip, you can hear an absolutely incoherent message Alex is trying to spread to his listeners.
Let's break this down piece by piece.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
It starts with him saying that it's official, the coronavirus is the big one.
It's a gigantic world event and the big one.
Whatever that means.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's the big one.
dan friesen
It's man-made, which it's not.
And the government is using it to create hysteria.
So the hysteria is bad, except Alex is running a show where he's allowing his guests to declare that the virus is airborne, and he lets a caller say that everyone's going to get it from mosquitoes.
And let's not forget that he had his science expert, Mike Adams, come on his show and say...
mike adams
It's over for humanity.
There will only be lone survivors.
dan friesen
So hysteria is bad, but also this show is nothing but hysteria.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Then, Alex says that Trump is engaged in and complicit with this government cover-up of the virus situation.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
Involving suppressing the country's testing capabilities.
This is a literal government cover-up of a public health crisis that Alex is describing, and he says he can't fault Trump for doing it.
His idea is that Trump is trying to protect the stock market.
So apparently, if that's the justification, anything can be done.
Covering up a pandemic and allowing it to get worse, putting the public at risk, it's okay, because Trump was trying to protect money.
That seems to be Alex's position.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, money's important, Dan.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
It has a vote.
dan friesen
Then, Alex complains that the left is using this against Trump, just like he predicted.
So, apparently, if Trump is engaged in a conspiracy cover-up that could literally kill Americans because he knows that a bad stock market will make him look bad and jeopardize his chances in the election, and the media dares point out the ways that his administration has not responded well to the outbreak, the media is bad.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
This is a completely bootlicking authoritarian perspective.
In one fell swoop, Alex is establishing the virus as a gigantic threat.
He asserts that Trump is impeding the American health system from being able to deal with it appropriately, and if the media criticizes him for it, they're bad.
The cover-up is good.
The criticism is bad.
This is overt, out-in-the-open dictatorship.
jordan holmes
Very much so.
dan friesen
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
He's covering it up in order to stop mass hysteria.
Right?
Correct?
dan friesen
I suppose.
jordan holmes
That's what I believe the, you know, because the reason the stock market would go down is because of the mass hysteria.
And Alex appreciates and understands why Trump is covering it up.
And he thinks mass hysteria is bad.
And he is also spreading mass hysteria.
dan friesen
He doesn't seem to have a real consistent position on what hysteria is.
jordan holmes
I don't think he really does.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, this is a struggle for me.
These words are bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here on the 5th, Alex has...
Francis Boyle come back on.
His bioweapons expert.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
He has no idea about any of the scientific aspect of this stuff.
jordan holmes
Sir Arthur Francis Boyle.
dan friesen
Exactly.
So Francis Boyle shows his bona fides and his resistance to reading by indicating that he believes that that North Carolina lab, that the UNC Chapel Hill created the virus and then Obama sold it to the Chinese.
So that's great.
And then he...
Join Stuart Rhodes in the group of people who are erroneously saying that this is airborne.
unidentified
No!
francis a boyle
Yes, I do think this was an offensive biological warfare weapon that was originally developed there at the University of North Carolina lab using the SARS coronavirus, which was already weaponized to begin with.
And endowing it with gain-of-function properties.
Indeed, it even travels through air, Alex.
It's not just a question of droplets.
That's why human excrement can spread this disease.
We've had reports of that coming out of Hong Kong and China now.
dan friesen
First of all, it's embarrassing that Francis Boyle is still pushing this conspiracy about the lab at UNC Chapel Hill creating a coronavirus.
We've been over this in great detail, but that is just a complete misreading of a study from 2015.
He's presenting himself as an expert.
He has every reason to know that study has nothing to do with this current outbreak.
He also should know the difference between airborne transmission and fecal-oral transmission of a virus.
The possibility that the coronavirus can be transmitted by fecal-oral contact means that you should wash your hands after going to the bathroom or handling poo.
There are some indications that this virus may transmit that way, as was also the case with SARS, so it's appropriate to exercise caution on that front.
However, this does not qualify as airborne transmission.
Just because the virus can be transmitted through feces doesn't mean that being around feces is going to transmit the virus.
You still have to contact the feces.
jordan holmes
I feel so much like we're in the 15th century here, where he's like, ah, well, of course, because of the smell, you know that this is unhealthy.
unidentified
If you stand next to poop, you're done.
jordan holmes
Put him in a plague outfit.
I'm done with him.
Put him in a plague doctor mask and get him the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Boyle's handling of this is supremely irresponsible, and if the media didn't already ignore him when he pretends to be an expert already, this would be a good reason for them to start.
jordan holmes
Ah, your humors are out of proportion, and that's why you got the virus.
You need to pray more.
dan friesen
So Boyle's going down this road, and Alex brings up something that he saw recently, trying to indicate this is proof that it's airborne, but I would argue it's exactly the opposite.
alex jones
Did you see where Merkel tried to shake hands with her interior minister?
He wouldn't.
I think what you're saying is it's not about shaking hands, it's in the air.
francis a boyle
That's correct.
It's not just in the hands, but it's in the air.
You're exactly correct.
dan friesen
If Merkel's minister didn't want to shake hands, that isn't an indication that it's...
That would be the indication that human contact is what they're concerned about, not the airborne idea.
jordan holmes
Wait, is his thinking?
dan friesen
They're just convoluted.
It makes no sense.
jordan holmes
Is his thinking more like Angela Merkel was trying to infect him, and when he didn't shake her hand, she was like, and breathed on him until he got it?
dan friesen
That's stupid, and that's very generous of you.
Anyway, Francis Boyle wants you to know that you cannot trust any experts.
On the matter of the coronavirus, which is good.
That's a good message for Alex to be...
jordan holmes
We don't want mass hysteria.
Don't trust anything anyone tells you.
dan friesen
They're all Nazi scientists.
jordan holmes
Everyone is lying to you but me.
And I'm saying, freak the fuck out, we're all going to die.
dan friesen
And avoid poop.
jordan holmes
No mass hysteria.
dan friesen
Plug up your butt hole.
francis a boyle
I don't believe we can trust this team there in Washington, D.C., this team of feds.
Who are up to their eyeballs in this to properly advise the American people on how to protect themselves and their families from this.
I would suggest that what needs to be done is the American people have to get organized on a state and local basis, even going down to cities and communities and villages and whatever.
And put together a team of experts, medical doctor, microbiologist, public health official, and be sure to do your due diligence on them, and make sure that they have not accepted one penny of Nazi biological warfare work from the United States government, because otherwise they're just going to sabotage whatever...
You're trying to do.
And of course we can't believe the WHO either.
We know they're up to their eyeballs here.
dan friesen
That's pretty much everybody.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
I mean, I support local action.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It gets muddy when you start throwing in nobody who's ever been involved in any research that has like a federal government grant, nobody who's even worked with the World Health Organization or the CDC.
And none of those people.
It's going to make things difficult.
jordan holmes
What you gotta do is you gotta get together with your small community, get the family doctor, who is of course an expert in coronavirus, as we all know, the microbiologist that most small towns have, naturally, and along with public health officials that are well paid for by no money?
dan friesen
This is very, very dumb.
You just need 100,000 Francis Boyles all over this country setting things straight.
jordan holmes
Spread his work.
dan friesen
So we have this last clip here from the 5th.
And what's going on here is, if you'll recall, back at the end of January, when Alex was pitching theories about the virus, one of his theories was that it was the deep state or Trump...
They released a bioweapon on China as payback for fentanyl.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah, that was a good one.
dan friesen
This was stupid.
So stupid that Alex stopped.
He didn't even pursue down that line.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Until now.
alex jones
Could this be, as we know Obama sold it to China, could this be a U.S. globalist-based bioweapon to launch at China for their fentanyl attacks?
I'm not saying that's happening.
I'm not positing that theory.
People are saying that.
What do you think?
dan friesen
People are saying that like me in the past.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yeah, me in the past, yes.
But I'm not saying that.
That was me in the past.
dan friesen
I floated this theory a couple months ago and then I just let it sit.
I don't know what people are saying.
People are talking on the streets.
I'm not saying this.
jordan holmes
I heard it on the radio a couple months ago.
dan friesen
Hey, that guy's got a good voice.
jordan holmes
He puts a little hat on to listen to his own show.
alex jones
Like, hey, I love that guy!
dan friesen
He's in the grocery store with no headphones in, listening to himself like a dick.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So we jump to the 6th, and this is a Friday, and Alex has big news to open the show with.
alex jones
All hell is breaking loose.
As we told you five weeks ago, this virus is the big one.
You could see what China did.
You could see what other countries started doing.
That meant that the globalists were going to absolutely promote this like it was the end of the world.
dan friesen
Oh, so Mike Adams is a globalist again.
alex jones
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
That's cool.
jordan holmes
Man, Mike Adams is a really bad dude.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, if the globalists are promoting it as the end of the world, that is exactly what Mike Adams did.
So, cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the problem with having a centralized enemy who does everything that you say you're against is if you change what you're against, then they are also changing what they're against.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Despite...
dan friesen
It's tough to keep track of.
And I think that's why there's a lot of this incoherence.
So Alex is basing this, starting the show off with an air raid siren, and this is the biggest thing in the world, all hell's breaking loose, because he's gotten some news.
alex jones
Now the models are at millions and millions dying.
There's a new computer model out that shows two plus a dead million people by July.
But again, these are just models, other Lanzet models.
You know, show 15% death rates, not 2%.
dan friesen
Wait.
Yesterday, you understood what that 15% was.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
unidentified
Why?
Wait.
alex jones
I can't.
dan friesen
He can't misuse it now without intentionally lying.
unidentified
I can't do this.
dan friesen
He knows.
That awareness is in his head.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is mean.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's a mean person.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, he is.
jordan holmes
He's mean to me.
dan friesen
He knows what he's doing.
jordan holmes
He's mean.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's full of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So also, this is not a professionally created computer model.
This was done by Mike Adams, and it was published on Natural News.
No one has reviewed his methodology.
No one has checked any of his work.
As far as I know, this is maybe not even a professional computer model.
It's just something Mike Adams worked out.
jordan holmes
He put numbers in a fucking spreadsheet, and then he animated it.
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
The more and more you peel back the layers on this shit, the more you see that Alex is just completely relying on Mike to supply him with information that he can then launder.
He doesn't say that Mike created this estimate.
He's trying to present it as a very official release from a credible source.
jordan holmes
It's a new computer model.
dan friesen
Sure.
And to be clear, Alex does later clarify that this is Mike's model, but he establishes it at the top of the show as just this new computer model with millions dead, which is not cool.
You want to know how unethical it is for Alex to use Mike's model like this?
Mike Adams' own article about the modeling he did on his website literally says, quote, Alex reposted this article on InfoWars, so I guess he just forgot to read that part.
Amazing levels of shithead behavior here.
jordan holmes
Was it just a fucking graph on an XY axis with it just going up?
He's a TI-86.
Yeah, he drew it in crayon and he's like, now this is in fact, but you can see how bad it's going to get.
dan friesen
So also the article says, quote, this model predicts a scenario where nothing is done to contain the virus.
In reality, this model is therefore not predictive for the real world over the long run for the simple reason that such strong interventions are inevitable.
It's almost like this model was created solely to give Alex a headline to cover and scare his audience about, while he ignores the part about this not being predictive in the real world, and just shows how many deaths Mike thinks will happen if literally nothing is done, which is not going to happen.
jordan holmes
That's like...
It's like using a video of playing a game of SimCity 2000 with like an alien coming in and out.
This isn't predictive of how the world would actually react to an alien.
I'm just showing you what would happen if aliens were untouched.
dan friesen
Alex would cover that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He would cover it.
So this article ends by shitting on the CDC, FDA, and NIH before signing off with, quote, in essence, you're on your own.
Read pandemic.news if you want to live.
Like, legit, fuck these dudes.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Pandemic.new is also another one of Mike Adams' sites.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
I was able to find an article from February 14th on Stat News about computer modeling of the virus outbreak.
According to this article, the most recent figures showed a range of 550,000 to 4.4 million cases of the virus in simulations.
But it's important to note these are cases, not deaths.
The article also points out that modeling is often accurate, but it's also often not.
For instance, the 2014 CDC model for the Ebola outbreak in West Africa predicted between 550,000 and 1.4 million cases, but the actual number ended up being way lower at 28,600.
jordan holmes
That's way lower.
dan friesen
It's way lower.
Yeah.
unidentified
I'm not going to engage too much with computer modeling side of things, primarily because there's a wide range of numbers you can get on that front.
dan friesen
And I don't think it's useful to people who aren't in positions where those models are useful.
for their work.
For you and I and most people listening, it's an abstract number without a greater context of what the model is simulating.
Way more important to me is that here on March 6th, Alex is back to using that 15% number from Lancet as if it was a total mortality projection.
But the day prior, He understood that it was severe cases that were already pneumonia and a very small sample size.
Alex has no idea what he's talking about.
He uses sources however he feels, depending on what feeling he's trying to evoke from his audience.
He shows an understanding of the limitations of the Lancet study on Thursday.
Then he's using it to scare people on Friday.
The fact that he showed that awareness on Thursday leaves me convinced that on Friday he's consciously lying to his audience about what that number really means.
He's consciously and intentionally lying to his audience to scare them about the outbreak, which is what normal humans call hysteria.
jordan holmes
What a dick.
dan friesen
So we learned on our last episode that Alex believes that Donald Trump secretly declared a national emergency a month ago.
jordan holmes
Yes, but he's also covering up the response to him.
Declaring that national emergency.
dan friesen
Good luck trying to thread that needle.
I'm not even going to try.
So Alex does still believe that.
Although Alex has said on the 5th, he did say that Trump was complicit in this cover-up with the CDC.
But now, it doesn't make sense.
alex jones
The president's signing this emergency declaration today.
That's what it is.
It's not just emergency funding.
It's an emergency declaration.
There's already ones in place secretly.
We told you about that on Monday.
And within about a week or two, it'll be a public national declaration, but it's already in place.
Trump's quietly been doing a lot to deal with it.
dan friesen
So that funding bill wasn't a declaration of an emergency, no matter how much Alex might want to pretend.
That was a bill that was rushed through Congress that Trump signed.
It was not a declaration of anything.
It's just authorization to fund billions of dollars to be used in developing treatments and help public health measures.
The only person who voted against this bill in the Senate was, you guessed it, Alex's old buddy Rand Paul shows himself to be more and more of a dick every day.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
Fill in those Ron shoes.
jordan holmes
That's just, just fuck you.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
You knew everybody else was gonna vote it.
You did it just to get attention.
You're a child.
You're a tiny little child.
dan friesen
Trump has not declared a national emergency, neither public nor secret.
There was a public health emergency that was declared back at the end of January, but that's a very different thing, as we discussed in our last episode.
Alex is just making this shit up and lying to his audience about this emergency funding bill.
In order to further his convoluted and contradictory narrative about what Trump is doing.
jordan holmes
It just doesn't get more authoritarian than blaming the media for criticizing Trump for doing a bad job while at the same time insisting that he's secretly doing a good job even though all evidence suggests that he's doing a bad job and you yourself claim that he's in a cover-up of him doing such a bad job.
And you're like, good call.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
jordan holmes
Love that guy.
dan friesen
I don't understand why you have a confused position on this.
jordan holmes
What I left out of there was obviously that Obama sold the virus and it's all his fault.
dan friesen
So Mike Adams shows up because he's made this model.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Cool.
Great.
dan friesen
So they get to talking about the cover-up of the CDC that Trump is in on.
jordan holmes
That Trump is doing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And Mike has an interesting theory.
jordan holmes
Hold on one sec.
Real quick.
This is a big question for me.
How can you just be in on the cover-up if you're the president running the CDC?
dan friesen
Kind of got to be leading it, right?
jordan holmes
You kind of got to be leading the cover-up, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, you think.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
You can't just be in on it.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't want to talk about that.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
He wants to talk about Mike's new theory.
That's very dumb.
alex jones
They weren't putting out the kids.
They were sabotaging it on purpose.
And again, that's the deep state left behind.
We're not blaming Trump.
mike adams
We're not blaming Trump.
In fact, Trump has been set up to be blamed.
I think...
Look, the CDC has always hated...
jordan holmes
He's part of the cover-up!
mike adams
When Trump was elected, people at the CDC cried.
alex jones
He cut their funding massively.
This is their revenge.
mike adams
This is their revenge.
And look, the CDC just got $2 billion in emergency funding.
alex jones
He cut their bioweapons BS, which he should.
mike adams
That's right.
dan friesen
So now I guess Trump's not in on the cover-up.
I guess he's not.
jordan holmes
They're hurting me.
I feel like they're punching me in the face over and over and over again, and I can't do anything about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's weird.
jordan holmes
This is violently offensive.
dan friesen
So, so far up to this point, Alex has not acknowledged the whole thing about Trump and the CDC's budget.
Sure.
A lot of people have made accusations that Trump cut the CDC's budget, and here you see Alex mirroring that claim and presenting it as a thing that Trump did to cut off their bioweapon production money.
The CDC was furious that he cut their budgets.
They bungled their response to the coronavirus as payback.
Just from a narrative standpoint, this is putting a hat on a hat.
Alex already has the whole the globalists release the bioweapon to crash the economy and embarrass Trump narrative going.
There's no reason to add a subplot about scientists being mad about a decreased budget.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
You gotta make it personal.
You bring it back down to the personal level.
This is disgruntled CDC appointees going apeshit.
dan friesen
If this were part of a script that I was editing, I would say cut it out.
Just get rid of it.
It's not adding anything and it's kind of confusing the main plot.
It's really just...
I don't know what's going on anymore.
jordan holmes
I really hope this gets better.
I want there to be now a love story in the CDC where also Obama had a secret mistress.
dan friesen
You had that with Paige and Strzok.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah!
unidentified
See, that's what I'm saying!
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying!
That's what I want!
It was pathos!
Yeah, exactly!
dan friesen
Oh, God.
So, the main problem here is that Trump didn't cut the CDC's funding.
That's a myth that people keep repeating, but it's not true.
It would be true to say that until he signed that emergency funding bill, there wasn't enough money going to the right places.
And until he declares a national emergency, a lot of the funds that could be used for all this stuff, those funds are unavailable.
Because they can only be used in those circumstances.
But it's not true to say that he cut their budgets.
jordan holmes
It's not that he's cutting their budget, it's that his actions are withholding money.
dan friesen
To an extent, yeah.
In his proposed budget for the fiscal year 2021, there's apparently an approximately 16% decrease in the CDC's budget, but this budget has not yet been approved by Congress and thus is not active.
Many folks, including some Democratic presidential candidates, have got details wrong on this, and thus lots of people think Trump actually cut funds from the CDC, including people like Alex and Mike Adams, apparently.
There are a bunch of other things in play here that are just more kind of stupidity and negligence than outright malicious action on Trump's part.
For instance, in 2018, the capabilities of the CDC's global disease outbreak prevention efforts were reduced by 80%.
A lot of people interpreted that as Trump cutting 80% of their budget, but in reality it was the result of the existing allotted funds for that program running out and Trump and Congress not making sure that it was fully funded.
That seems like a negligence thing.
You could argue that it's just semantics, that that is cutting the budget, but it's not quite the same.
Also, in 2018, Rear Admiral Timothy Ziemer, the Senior Director for Global Health Security and Biodefense in the National Security Council, was removed from his position, and his whole team was disbanded.
According to Snopes, they are people who are, quote, responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic, and after the firing, Ziemer was not replaced, and the team remained disbanded.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's hard to say exactly who is responsible for this, though, whether it was Trump or the head of the Security Council doing a reorganization.
But ultimately, the head of state is where the buck stops.
So Trump is responsible for that, but how much of that is he didn't know?
That is a possibility.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, absolutely.
dan friesen
That one could be a negligence thing.
And again, that comes down to a semantic thing.
Did he decrease...
The ability of that team to operate, or did he just not realize that that team was gone and failed to reappoint people?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, in this case, though, I also find the argument of whether or not this was...
Do we have a malicious leader or an incompetent leader?
That's kind of semantics to me.
dan friesen
I understand that.
And the effect is...
Ultimately, more or less the same.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So on that level, I agree with you.
But in terms of what Alex is saying, his narrative about the angry CDC employees...
jordan holmes
Yes, yes, yes, I agree with you there.
dan friesen
I'm saying that that's bogus.
jordan holmes
I agree with you.
dan friesen
Ultimately, the matters surrounding these things are far more complicated than saying that Trump cut the CDC budget.
That's a grotesque oversimplification of things.
But you see the way...
It's the way that Alex understands things.
He knows that he needs to spin that.
Because he believes that Trump straight up cut the CDC's budget.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course he does.
dan friesen
Because if he doesn't spin it, he would tend to make Trump look bad and dumb.
So he decided to pitch the narrative of spiteful doctors and the CDC allowing an outbreak to spread because they want their money.
This is weak.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I really think that that makes them the most evil people in history.
dan friesen
The CDC?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, they don't exist.
jordan holmes
If any human being was like, okay, fine, I'm just going to let the world get fucked up by a virus because I needed $2 billion more in funding for the fiscal year of 2020.
dan friesen
Yeah, character motivations don't make sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's no good.
dan friesen
In this case.
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
So Mike has this model.
And that Alex has pitched at the start of the show as a professional computer model, not attached to Mike Adams.
By now, it's clear that it's Mike's, and Mike is talking about his model.
Even he has to tell Alex that you need to change the headline on the story about this.
mike adams
And again, I just want to reiterate, please ask your editors to update that headline.
I don't want anybody to think that this is a prediction that has no qualifiers.
This is a model of what happens if we don't shut down the traffic.
alex jones
We put up the live show feed name as you're coming on with alert pandemic projection model shows 2.16 million deaths in U.S. by July 4th.
Or that was an earlier article we posted this morning.
We need to make sure that the sub-headline is there and the sub-headline...
Oh, there it is.
mike adams
Thank you.
Okay, awesome.
alex jones
No, no, no, no, no.
We need to update it.
So it needs to be updated with what your sub-headline was, and that was...
If the necessary emergency protocols aren't put in place.
mike adams
That's right.
dan friesen
Even fucking Mike Adams realizes that the way Alex was reporting on this was sensational and inappropriate.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's a bad sign.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That is bad.
alex jones
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I understand what you're saying, but I want to make sure my listeners don't understand what you're saying.
You're really giving up the game.
Fine, we'll put the sub-headline up there or whatever.
Make it smaller!
Make it smaller!
dan friesen
So that's a point of disagreement between him and Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
How to use his model.
jordan holmes
And as well as their globalist ideology.
dan friesen
Sure, Mike the globalist.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
The globalist ranger.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The health globalist.
So there's another thing they disagree on, and that is this notion of the secret national emergency that Trump declared.
jordan holmes
Sure, the one that didn't exist.
dan friesen
Mike clearly doesn't believe that.
unidentified
Good.
mike adams
Trump will declare a national emergency, 100%.
It will happen.
There will be extreme, severe restrictions on domestic air travel, road travel.
Cities under quarantine.
There will be roadside checkpoints in certain areas.
There will be emptied universities, empty school campuses.
Corporations will send their employees home in massive numbers, much larger than anything you're seeing now.
We are about to experience a shutdown of American society beginning around June, July, August.
This is going to be the summer of hell in America.
dan friesen
So close.
So close.
You could almost taste it.
Summer rage.
It's branded on this show.
jordan holmes
That is so disappointing to me.
That is a slam dunk.
dan friesen
Yeah, but some of the things that he's saying, I mean, he's super sensational in a lot of ways.
It's over for humanity.
There will only be lone survivors.
But these things that he's saying are conceivable.
In terms of if things go down a negative path.
If things aren't handled correctly, there could be a massive disruption of a lot of the things that are our normal lives.
jordan holmes
Most people are saying that we should start expecting it.
dan friesen
I'm not playing that clip to necessarily mock like schools will be closed.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
I'm only interested in the summer of hell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Mike has this model that is two point something million dead if nothing is done, but nothing is done is not a conceivable thing that will happen in reality.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So the model is useless, except as a way to put a big number here to scare people for Alex.
But Mike actually believes that the numbers are way worse.
mike adams
It's way worse than the numbers I've already printed.
It's way worse.
I just dare not print them because it's a popular thing.
alex jones
And the former CDC head says they don't know what's wrong.
They don't know why it's being intentionally botched because they're covering it up from the president to blame him when it explodes.
jordan holmes
No, he's covering it up.
mike adams
This is their next attempt to eliminate Trump.
Russia failed.
Impeachment failed.
This is their next attempt.
The CDC is trying to take out Trump.
That's what's happening.
alex jones
Mike, thank you so much.
Wow.
Well, hope for the worst, prepare.
Hope for the worst.
That's what the globalists hope for.
I hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
The globalists are hoping for the worst to try to overthrow America.
It's just sick.
dan friesen
I just...
This is...
It's maddening.
The way that this has changed from Trump is in on the cover-up to now to cover-up aimed at Trump by angry CDC scientists.
Who want their money?
I can't even handle it.
jordan holmes
I would like to tell every sci-fi author who's like, the only thing that will bring humanity together is a threat to all of us.
If an alien comes or if a virus comes, fuck off.
Half of humanity is going to be like, fuck yeah, aliens kill us all!
I don't give a shit!
Trump is the president forever!
dan friesen
Philip K. Dick did not predict this.
So Alex gets back to talking about this whole situation.
He believes that the Chinese, of course, the government, released this on purpose.
And he expands on this a little bit.
This is fucked up.
alex jones
I think China did it on purpose.
I don't think it got out of Wuhan on accident.
No.
This lets them clamp down there, use control, flood us, hit us, and then we're more dependent in our supply chain because we're dependent on them.
And then you have the Islamicists who probably intentionally contract it.
In fact, I was told months ago by army sources that were worried about jihadists getting really deadly viruses and bringing them in.
Remember all that?
dan friesen
So, if I understand the narrative as it's being presented now, the Chinese government released the bioweapon on themselves in order to help further the goals of the CDC who were mad because their funding was cut.
How many goddamn moving pieces does this stupid conspiracy have?
This is like the Ocean's Eleven of virus outbreaks.
jordan holmes
Who let Tom Clancy write reality now?
What is happening?
dan friesen
Steve Pchenik.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's it!
There it is.
Steve Pchenik is running the simulation that we're all in.
This makes sense.
dan friesen
That's why this narrative is overbooked.
jordan holmes
Too many plots.
And some weird sex scenes are going on somewhere.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
Also, you'll hear there at the end, Alex trying to explain, I think he's trying to explain the outbreak in Iran, saying that Islamicists infected themselves, or possibly that's his explanation for how it just got to other countries.
He's unclear about what he's talking about at this point.
And again, if I were an editor, and this was a draft screenplay, I would say go ahead and cut out the Islamic terrorist subplot.
You don't need that to explain the spread of a virus.
It happens naturally when appropriate steps aren't taken.
jordan holmes
That one's just tossed in there.
dan friesen
Also, Alex wasn't told about, quote, Islamicists who were going to infect themselves months ago by army sources, like he claims in that clip.
He was told about it on February 8th by Mike Adams.
mike adams
Any enemy nation, such as Iran or North Korea, can simply send 10 human volunteers to the Wuhan region.
They'll get infected.
They can bring it back.
And they can harvest it from their saliva and they can replicate it in egg yolks.
dan friesen
If you pay attention, all of Alex's information is laundered.
He pretends he has these sources and their mysterious nature and their official status give these claims some kind of credibility.
But ten times out of nine, it's just some dumb bullshit one of his friends said on the show that Alex is pretending came from a whistleblower.
It's really transparent and a pathetic grift once you teach yourself to see through it a little bit.
It's very obvious.
So I was confused.
I initially thought that he was saying these Islamicists because he was trying to explain why there's an outbreak in Iran.
jordan holmes
Right.
And then you talked to your lieutenant colonel buddy.
dan friesen
I did.
And by that I mean I listened a little more.
jordan holmes
Okay, well there's that.
dan friesen
And Alex explains what he means.
It turns out he's just a fucking racist.
alex jones
And then this Islamicist comes in and suddenly it's all over Italy where this guy's making food deliveries.
You don't think he just accidentally sneezed on a few people.
No, man.
He was probably putting it into the food.
Unbelievable.
You know, they just explode everywhere for no reason.
dan friesen
So, it turns out Alex was talking about Italy when he decided to blame Muslims for spreading the virus.
He's just straight up making things up.
The first cases of coronavirus in Italy were a Chinese couple from Wuhan who arrived in Italy on January 23rd.
Alex's racist narrative is based on a misrepresentation of a story about a Pakistani man living in Italy who apparently did not quarantine himself after testing positive for the virus.
The circumstances of his story are not clear, so I can't speak to that.
But it's a gigantic leap for someone to make that this person's intention was to infect people.
The story was published first in an Italian outlet called Ancoros on February 29th.
It covered this Pakistani man, but at no point did it claim that this man was the first person in the country with the coronavirus.
That story was then used as a source for a story in the, quote, pro-West blog, Free West Media, with the headline, quote, Italy's patient zero, migrant who delivered food at homes.
They completely added the patient zero thing to the story, which was not reflected in their initial source, because this is a blog dedicated to demonizing non-white immigrants.
Fun trivia, Alex's old buddy Paul Craig Roberts is a contributor to Free West Media, which should surprise no one, since he was also a writer for the white nationalist publication V-Dare from 2000 to 2013.
jordan holmes
Way to keep popping up, guy.
You're doing evil gods work.
dan friesen
So from that point, after this story was embellished, it was picked up and gained some traction in white nationalist circles, but honestly, even the comments on Free West Media don't seem to buy the story, with one of them calling it fake.
This is, as so often the case, one more piece of evidence that Alex gets his news from completely racist sources, ones that don't engage in any kind of fact-checking, and also often sometimes lie to push a racist agenda.
Also, I guess, you know, in order for Alex's narrative to make any sense, there have to be Pakistani Islamist sleeper cells employed as food delivery people in Italy who are working with the Chinese government in order to embarrass Trump.
And the CDC is involved too because they want their money.
I think Alex has lost the thread on this one.
jordan holmes
It's a global conspiracy, Dan.
It's the big one.
They're all working together in inexplicable ways.
dan friesen
If this wasn't about a really serious topic, this would be really funny.
But it's not.
And it's very racist, the way Alex is doing this stuff.
jordan holmes
This is Project Camelot if aliens were real.
Like, this is exactly how you'd be like, this is irresponsible behavior.
We actually have xenomorphs outside of our homes.
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Assholes.
dan friesen
So Alex is mad that he has these established pieces of fact.
Right?
Like, you've got that it's man-made.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
You've got that they sold it to the Chinese.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
And he's mad that no one's talking about it.
jordan holmes
Well, they're lying.
alex jones
Make no mistake, they're getting ready to clamp down on RDR in many parts of the world using this virus as the pretext.
But nobody's discussing it's man-made, the bioweapons labs, that Obama transferred to China.
But we are.
dan friesen
This is where I get kind of personally offended.
Because, like, Alex is up here complaining about how no one's talking about how the virus is man-made and how Obama sold it to China.
And he's talking about places like CNN and MSNBC.
They're not talking about that stuff because it's all bullshit he created out of thin air using lunatic sources and lying about various articles.
Good on them.
There's no reason for them to be covering that.
But we are.
jordan holmes
That's what we're here for.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're exactly what he's claiming he wants.
We're out here covering the idea that the virus is man-made.
We're out here covering the claim that Obama sold it to China.
We're just using Alex's own sources to show he's full of shit.
I started to have, like, when I was listening to this, I started to have some, like, flight of fancies where it's just me insisting he read his own sources on air and then you bark at him.
jordan holmes
That does sound fun.
dan friesen
I got caught up in my head about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a dream.
That's a real dream.
dan friesen
So Alex takes some calls now on the show, and he gets a caller that really, really bummed me out.
unidentified
Okay, I'll tell you what I think.
Here's my question for you.
I watch you and Mike Adams and Stuart Rose and I'm retired ex-military and I really plan my lifestyle around what you guys say.
I believe in y 'all.
I trust in y 'all.
God bless y 'all.
dan friesen
What a bummer.
I plan my lifestyle around what you and Mike Adams say.
jordan holmes
Oh no, buddy.
dan friesen
Go to the VA, please.
This caller wants to know when is it time to bug out?
When is it time to just hit the woods?
And Alex has a response.
And then this caller actually has an interesting follow-up question that Alex does not answer well.
unidentified
When do we know when it's time to start bugging out?
I don't want to use the term self-quarantine.
I want to use the term self-isolate.
How do we know when it's getting time for us to just take it on our own to just bug out and get away from the world?
alex jones
If I was retired and didn't have to be in Austin, I would already be preparing the next few weeks to leave because it's exponential.
And so if it is as bad as they say, and we hope it isn't, then, I mean, as soon as possible.
unidentified
Okay, well here's what I worry about when I watch your show.
I try to take my cues from y 'all, but I still see you sending Owen and Savannah and Millie and Caitlin and all them out to these rallies and conventions and they're not wearing masks and it doesn't look like they're very prepared around thousands of people.
alex jones
I agree, but see, right now it's such a small number.
It's deadly, it spreads fast, but you're right.
It's probably worse than they're saying and we've actually had those discussions now.
We're going to be watching very closely.
I mean, I've already canceled one trip.
Didn't tell people that.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, I mean, that's a pretty good rebuttal question.
jordan holmes
That was a very insightful follow-up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That was a better follow-up than most of the moderators on CNN will fucking have.
dan friesen
If it's now time immediately to bug out if Alex didn't have to leave Austin, it does stand to reason that he would...
Try and protect his staff.
jordan holmes
No one.
No one eat at Burger King.
Why, sir, are you eating that grill?
Don't worry.
It's because Burger...
It's not yet.
Not yet.
dan friesen
I love chicken fries.
jordan holmes
In a couple weeks, maybe.
I didn't eat Burger King yesterday.
Nobody's talking about that.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, in the same way that Alex has been really preoccupied with really trivial matters, those headlines that he read on the last episode, Mike Bloomberg's eating habits.
jordan holmes
Homeless people eating.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
He has another one here on this episode, and here's a little clip of him talking about it.
alex jones
I'm going to go back to your calls here in just a moment.
I spent two segments on this last hour.
I shouldn't have, but it really captured my attention in a sickening way.
Brian Williams, the guy that said he was shot down in a helicopter and lied about it, was on with the New York Times editor.
jordan holmes
That's his only credit?
alex jones
New York Times editor Brian Williams humiliated after suggesting each American could have received $1 million from Bloomberg's $500 million ad spent.
Now, let's just pull back from that for a moment.
jordan holmes
How's this going to go?
alex jones
You could give $1 million to 500 people, not $1 million.
To $327 million.
Anybody knows that?
dan friesen
Yep.
alex jones
Well, guess what?
The New York Times and others have come out and defended themselves.
So is the Washington Post.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
This is a Paul Joseph Watson article.
Blah, blah.
Math, blah, blah.
Close quote.
jordan holmes
Great article.
alex jones
Journalist responds to humiliating $1 million for every American fail because they were the one that first created it saying the $500 million he spent, he could give every American $1 million.
500 million does not give 327 million people a million dollars.
It gives 500 that.
But they're doubling down!
They say he could easily afford to give everyone in America a million dollars.
That was their point, she says.
Well, I knew that was their point.
That's why I said without knowing that was their idiot point, that if he has 78 billion dollars and you divide that by 327 million...
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
It's $327 trillion.
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on here.
I don't like hearing Alex say numbers.
You heard at the beginning of that clip, Alex said he spent two segments on this, and I don't think that that's inaccurate.
I didn't cut clips of it earlier because as I was listening to it, I just decided to ignore that nonsense.
But when he brought it back up, I realized this is important to Alex, so I will honor him by talking about it.
Yes, thank you.
So for a lot of the episode, Alex has been trying to score some points on the mainstream media by making fun of a segment Brian Williams did with Mara Gay, where they incorrectly asserted that instead of giving and spending what he did on ads, Bloomberg could have given everyone in the United States a million dollars.
It was very embarrassing, and pretty much everyone clowned on the segment, but Alex is using it as some kind of proof that the media is evil and trying to change math or something.
I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
That's how they're going to get us.
dan friesen
It's very bizarre.
jordan holmes
I did not know Brian Williams was still on TV.
I really thought that he...
I thought that thing took him down.
He's still around?
Shit.
dan friesen
So what it really is is a high-profile example of someone in the media getting something wrong in a very elementary way.
And Alex knows that he has to make the most of it.
China and the globalists might be his imaginary enemies, but from a dollar standpoint, his real rivals are any other things people might watch.
And this gives him a chance to attack those things.
So anyway, this segment was Williams and Gay discussing a tweet posted by Washington Post writer Makita Rivas.
Which got the math wrong, which then they mirrored.
In the aftermath of this segment, Rivas tweeted that she meant Bloomberg could have given everyone a million dollars and not notice it from all of his money, which is also incorrect.
All in all, this is just an embarrassing showing for everyone involved.
And that includes Paul Joseph Watson, who swung in like a bold, brave journalist to cover the story.
He wrote an article about the GAF, which Alex is using as his source.
But Paul made a little error of his own in the article.
jordan holmes
Damn you people!
dan friesen
So Bloomberg spent $500 million on the campaign, but you wouldn't know that if you read Paul's article.
Quote, with math obviously not being Rivas' strong point, it was immediately pointed out that Bloomberg's $500 billion doled out to all 327 million Americans would mean they got just $1.53 each.
Whoops.
Looks like old PJW fucked up the math of his own on that post where he's making fun of other people fucking up their math.
500 billion divided by 327 million is 1,529, not 1.53.
So now I'm going to rant about it for an hour.
We got two segments about this coming up.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Obviously, Paul meant 500 million, but this should be a prime example of, one, how trivial the bullshit is that these guys spend their time yelling about, and two, how little editorial work is done by anyone in the Infowars orbit.
Shape up, Paul.
Owen's on your heels.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look right.
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
It's bad.
Look sharp.
It's bad when everybody embarrasses themselves on top of each other.
It's a hat on a hat situation.
The Three Stooges don't need to be interrupted by the Three Stooges while another pair of Three Stooges are coming at you.
Right.
It's insane.
It's insane.
Just shut up, everybody.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
I don't know.
I just think it's funny that they're getting all sanctimonious about this nonsense and then still making...
Well, I mean, if you take it at the $5 billion, if that's what he meant to write, then he got a math error.
Absolutely.
So, anyway.
Alex starts reading some headlines, and it's not good.
alex jones
I'm done.
I said I'm going to your calls.
That's another article.
Mob of teens savagely beat 15-year-old girl in New York.
Of course, it's a racial attack.
It's okay.
It'll be covered up.
dan friesen
The story Alex is talking about is about a big gang of youths attacking a 15-year-old in New York and stealing her shoes.
I watched the video and it's horrifying, but you can't tell the race of the victim from the video.
From the angle of the surveillance footage, her face is blocked by a binder that she's using to protect herself.
I read a bunch of articles about the story and nowhere can I find any information about her race, and from everything I can tell, there's no reason to jump to the conclusion that this was a racial attack.
The perpetrators have been arrested and questioned and as it turns out, the victim went to school with them and they jumped her because she'd beaten up another girl who they were friends with earlier in the day.
There's literally no reason to see this as a racially motivated attack unless the only thing you see is that the perpetrators, the young men, were black and you're a huge racist, which Alex is.
jordan holmes
That'll do it.
dan friesen
So even the small things, like the reading of this headline, they are demonstrations of his racism.
jordan holmes
That's awful.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Alex screams about how he wants the people at the National Institutes of Health hung because of how they're dealing with this.
jordan holmes
But Trump is covering everything up!
dan friesen
Not anymore.
That was yesterday.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
Never mind.
alex jones
The NIH and the CHICOMs and the globalists, they're not getting...
Let me tell you something.
You get three million dead Americans or whatever the numbers are going to be, there are going to be some people getting hung.
If it's man-made.
And the fact that it'd be obviously man-made and they admit it's man-made, but no one wants to talk about it.
That's the elephant in the room.
dan friesen
Ah.
jordan holmes
So what he's saying is that if the government has a man-made problem that kills three million people, people should be hung.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Okay.
jordan holmes
I'm going to hold him to that.
dan friesen
And he's established that The globalists and the NIH and the Chinese government are doing this, and they have done this, and it is man-made.
Therefore, all of them should be hung.
I mean, it's very extreme language.
He seems very confident about himself, which makes this next clip really weird.
alex jones
I know communism's horrible.
I know Satan worship is real.
I know the left loves to kill babies, and it's a religion for them.
I said it 20 years ago.
Now they're public about it.
I know thousands of things, just like you do, that are dead rock certain.
But I don't know what's going on with this virus.
And I'm not going to sit there and tell you what you should do.
dan friesen
Okay, so...
jordan holmes
You told me to bug out!
dan friesen
For months now, he's been saying very definitive things about this virus and then to cop out like that.
unidentified
You told that dude literally now is the time to bug out.
jordan holmes
You said in the next couple weeks.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
You didn't tell him to.
He said if I were able to, I would right now.
jordan holmes
No, he said you're...
dan friesen
Shut up.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
He's fine.
jordan holmes
My God.
dan friesen
He's fine.
jordan holmes
I can't...
Man, this is a lot of punches to the face.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And here comes another one.
Alex has a guest on.
And it's a guy named Anthony Hall.
He's not been on the show before.
And Alex gives him about the worst possible intro, given what I know about this guy.
alex jones
Hall has published widely in the area of expertise, including the original treaties, international law, colonization, some other areas we don't have time to get into.
He has responded proactively to the incursions of those targeting...
His academic topics on their quest to limit academic freedom at universities, his current schedule in research and publication is aimed at bringing to light deeper analysis of the very topics that his detractors have targeted him for.
That's what I always do.
What I get targeted for, what they try to shut down, is what I then...
Focus in on, because that's what they don't want you to look at.
dan friesen
Again, Alex's mentality about the negative attention is virtue, or is correctness, is a bad way to look at things.
Because, I gotta say, this could not be a worse introduction for Anthony Hall.
I guess this dude Hall has been talking some shit about the coronavirus lately, so Alex is playing this game, that whole thing where it's like, what your detractors are targeting you about, that whole thing.
He's trying to apply that to the coronavirus.
Everyone's targeting Anthony Hall because of that.
That is not correct.
This is where it would pay off for Alex to research his guests just a little bit.
Since when Alex brings up Hall's complaint about academic freedom on campus, it has nothing to do with the coronavirus.
And in fact, it's about a topic that's become all too familiar on Alex's show these days.
It's nice to say that Anthony Hall is a professor emeritus because that sounds a lot better than the reality.
In August 2018, Hall retired from his position at University of Lethbridge.
This was after he was suspended without pay in October 2016 for, I'm just going to read to you here from an article in the Lethbridge News, quote, comments he made in online articles and videos suggesting that Israeli and U.S. Jews staged the 9-11 attacks and that the events of the Holocaust should be up for debate.
As it turns out, Hall had been in a video produced by a group called the Committee for Open Debate of the Holocaust, which you might just go ahead and guess, and you'd be correct in guessing.
It's a Holocaust denial outfit.
jordan holmes
No, I assume that when they say open debate, that means that they're willing to be proven wrong, and when they are, they will shut down their group, right?
dan friesen
Hmm.
An article in the Alberta Views quotes Hall as saying in the video, quote, we're living in a time of huge hate speech, hate speech directed towards Germans collectively, generically, with no real ability to consider Germany's place in the world outside of this peculiar way that national socialism has been interpreted.
jordan holmes
That's the phrasing that you're going to use?
dan friesen
Good stuff.
jordan holmes
The peculiar way that national...
dan friesen
Particular, excuse me.
jordan holmes
Oh, particular.
Oh, okay.
Well, then, in that case, it's much better.
dan friesen
That's all better.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The people he was in the video with from the committee were Alfred and Monica Schaefer, who are very explicit Holocaust deniers.
Alfred's been featured on a bunch of anti-Semitic shows arguing things like there were no gas chambers.
Monica was arrested in 2018 in Germany because Holocaust denial is illegal there.
Hall said of those siblings, quote, So cool.
Alex is interviewing another Holocaust denier on his show.
They seem to be popping up a bunch lately.
jordan holmes
That's a pretty serious if-then statement.
dan friesen
Hall was reinstated from his suspension in November 2017, but it was a real controversial return, and apparently he was asked to resign.
So he retired, and now here he is on Alex's show.
That's why it's not a good look to introduce Hall by saying things like, they target you for the things that they don't want you talking about.
To introduce Hall that way is basically to endorse Holocaust denial, whether intentionally or not.
jordan holmes
They don't want you to talk about a Holocaust denial.
dan friesen
That's great.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's against the law in some places.
dan friesen
So Alex is having him on to talk about the coronavirus, because he's been talking some shit about the coronavirus.
jordan holmes
Right, so I'm going to assume that he is going to have a measured and appropriate response to this that definitely will not scapegoat any non-white peoples at all.
dan friesen
I didn't pick up too much blaming the Jews for it, let's say.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, that's good.
dan friesen
But I did pick up...
Some sources that are questionable.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The first is that it seems like a bunch of his information may just be coming from Alex himself.
jordan holmes
Great.
unidentified
I was touched when I saw a clip of you, Alex, where you were saying, well, I initially saw this coronavirus thing as a kind of deep state diversion and an excuse to bring in different policies.
But when you saw that the HIV virus is found to be in the Yeah, welded in.
Bioweapon.
Welded in.
Big pardon?
alex jones
Welded in.
I mean, they admit it's just cut into it.
It just slopped onto it.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Slopped onto it.
unidentified
And now when they're treating the ill people, they're using HIV remedies and Ebola remedies.
So this is increasingly, the evidence is increasing that this is a human-made...
Buy a weapon.
dan friesen
None of that is evidence of anything.
jordan holmes
I don't like your speech pattern, bro.
dan friesen
So as it turns out, this guy Anthony Hall is basically just an Alex Jones listener who happens to also be a disgraced former professor.
All he's doing is regurgitating completely bogus narratives that Alex has disseminated on his show and have been amplified by the adjacent media sources like Zero Hedge.
He's not providing any other proof for any of this stuff outside of things like you said it on your show.
Alex is so desperate for anyone with any credentials to their name to come in and validate his coronavirus bullshit that he's got a dude who lost a tenured professorship over Holocaust denial on his show.
And you know what?
By treating this dude like an expert and validating him because his views on the virus...
Because you're doing that, you're kind of giving a big thumbs up to the other beliefs.
jordan holmes
Well, there is that.
dan friesen
I can't say I'm surprised, though.
Like, holy shit, this show is drifting down this path.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't think anybody...
You know, let's talk about checking boxes.
I think we got the Holocaust denial box checked.
I think that one's there.
dan friesen
And this one gets worse.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course it does.
dan friesen
Because we learn of another source of information that Anthony Hall has about the coronavirus.
jordan holmes
What, the protocols of the elders of Zion?
dan friesen
Might as well be.
unidentified
And, you know, I've been listening to True News, Rick Wiles on True News.
They do a very good report every day on coronavirus.
dan friesen
So here we get another indication of the sort of places that Anthony Hall gets his news from.
True News and Rick Wiles are perhaps the worst place anybody could hope to get real information from.
It should be noted that Rick Wiles is a very noted anti-Semite.
One thing that jumps out is how he called the Trump impeachment a, quote, Jew coup, saying, quote, that's the way the Jews work.
They're deceivers.
They plot.
They lie.
They do whatever they have to to accomplish their political agenda.
He went on to say, quote, you have been taken over by a Jewish cabal.
The Church of Jesus Christ, you're next.
Get it through your head.
They're coming for you.
There will be a purge.
That's the next thing that happens when Jews take over a country.
They kill millions of Christians.
Naturally, some people took offense to this kind of rhetoric, particularly when it was announced that Wiles had been given press credentials to cover Trump's trip to Davos.
People were saying, hey, it's weird that this very clear anti-Semite is getting press credentials.
And, of course, Wiles' response was to claim that this criticism was proof of the, quote, Jewish-controlled news media.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go.
All right.
Okay.
Okay, buddy.
dan friesen
The examples of Rick Wiles being an outrageously overt anti-Semite are plentiful over his career, so it makes sense that this Holocaust-denying former professor might gravitate towards his work.
Lately, Rick Wiles has been framing the coronavirus as a plague sent by God as punishment for the world's sins.
He said on his show that this is a death angel.
And if you're Christian, you have nothing to fear from the virus.
Quote, the blood of Jesus Christ will protect you.
Do not fear.
If you're living right for God, if the blood of Jesus Christ is on you, you have no reason to fear this death angel.
But those of you who are opposing the church of God, mocking God, attacking his servants, you better wise up because there's a death angel on the loose right now.
And you're going to get an attitude adjustment.
Did that dude just say attitude adjustment?
You know what happens, Jordan, when someone says attitude adjustment.
unidentified
No.
Grab a dog!
jordan holmes
And we will stand together with God!
Sorry.
dan friesen
Whenever anybody says attitude adjustment, it's just what happens.
Anyway, Rick Wiles said on his show at the end of February that the virus will end if China accepts Jesus.
So you have to understand that this dude, Anthony Hall, is viewing that guy as a good source of information about the outbreak, and now he's just regurgitating things that he believes on Alex's show as an expert.
It's a dumb feedback loop that's going on, basically.
jordan holmes
If I become president someday, I will institute a policy that there will always be somebody around everywhere to escort you out if necessary.
And he needs to be escorted out.
I don't know where he needs to go.
I don't know where he needs to be He's serving an important function on Alex's show, though, because it's around that time in a show where Alex needs someone else to do some talking because he needs to snack.
unidentified
I'm at the stage where I'm trying to identify different scenarios.
Different factions without saying conclusively it's this one or that one.
alex jones
Exactly.
You're looking at the factions and who has motives and who might be behind it.
unidentified
I'm just eating on a sandwich over here.
dan friesen
So before we leave this March 6th episode, Hall has...
jordan holmes
We're going to need a sandwich first.
dan friesen
Alex needs a sandwich.
Hall needs to make some pointless, baseless...
unidentified
What have we been tested on?
There's lots of cases on record of experiments on human beings taking place.
Was the princess, was that big yacht, was that a human experiment?
Was that some kind of effort to...
alex jones
I totally agree, Professor.
You're doing an awesome job.
Let's bring some callers in.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, great.
So this diamond princess cruise ship, maybe that was human experimentation.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Great thought.
Great thought, man.
You're doing awesome.
jordan holmes
Let's do some zombie movie writing.
We got it all.
This story has everything.
We got love stories.
We got zombie movie plot lines.
CDC is coming out for everybody.
dan friesen
Love it.
So we come back on March 9th on Monday.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Monday's show.
And Alex starts things off on a real familiar tone.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, it's now all confirmed.
The coronavirus is a man-made bio-weapon launched by the deep state and the globalists through China to hit the United States and bring down the economy.
jordan holmes
That's being covered up by Trump.
alex jones
To try to bring down Trump.
Trump tried to defend China, tried to not create hysteria, tried to help him.
And now he is being absolutely set up.
We have been dead on again.
And we can stop the globalist plan, but it's up to you to get the word out.
We're going to lay it all out today in the most important broadcast ever.
dan friesen
It's not really lay it all out, but again, it's the most important broadcast ever.
Every single fucking day is the most important broadcast ever.
It's just repetition of those same bullet points over and over again.
This show on Monday is really frustrating.
It's very not interesting.
It's a bad episode.
But Alex does say, hey, I called this.
I called a bio attack.
unidentified
He called literally anything it might be.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
This is the big enchilada.
Not Russiagate, not the impeachment.
We kept saying, what's the new thing going to be?
And I said, probably a bio-attack to bring down the economy.
Probably this Wuhan thing six weeks ago and again.
jordan holmes
Probably this movie.
alex jones
The Oracle of Austin was accurate, but I'm no Oracle.
dan friesen
Ha, the Oracle of Austin.
unidentified
I can't breathe.
jordan holmes
I can't breathe.
The lies are so heavy and so aggressively false.
dan friesen
And I know from listening to Alex's show back when he was saying what comes next, he didn't say a bio-attack.
That was one thing out of a million that he was like, ah!
The thing he kept pushing on was he thought that the globalists were going to nuke Chicago.
That is what he kept saying.
I just feel like the big ones coming are going to nuke Chicago.
He did say a number of other cities possibly as well, but it was largely a theory that there was going to be a nuke and it was going to be probably Chicago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm sorry about that, Dan.
Rest in peace.
dan friesen
In Chicago, still have not been nuked.
So there's another thing that's interesting.
I'm not going to...
Play much from Monday.
It's a very uninspired episode.
He takes a lot of phone calls.
It's very boring.
But there are some things that are important.
One of them is that Alex is clearly shifting more and more towards any dissent from Trump is evil.
alex jones
And this is an attack on America.
And anybody that blames Trump, or anybody that blames the first responders, or anybody that blames frontline medical workers, The first responders, the medical people, that is cover.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That is foliage to distract from the fact that he's saying that anybody who's against Trump is an enemy of your family.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Now, admittedly, that anybody who disagrees with Dear Leader should be assassinated and killed immediately.
But that's also if they complain about...
Look, I support Trump, but if I complain about first responders, I'm right there with them.
It just so happens that all of my political enemies don't do the other two.
So, you know.
dan friesen
So, Alex, also, the other thing that's really important here on this Monday, March 9th episode, is that Alex is back on his bullshit about the silver.
No!
No!
Which is bad, because things have progressed with the Jim Baker situation, I believe.
That a lawsuit has been filed.
Oh, yeah.
So Alex might want to watch out because he is...
jordan holmes
Interstate commerce.
dan friesen
He is 100% back on saying it can knock out the coronavirus.
alex jones
And while I'm up here preaching, take your PQQ and your CoQ10 DNA force and brush your teeth with your patented nanotech-approved biosilver.
Other studies I've got from the Pentagon that it knocks out the SARS coronavirus family.
We've got that, too.
dan friesen
That I then have to do it.
He's like, I have to take these things myself because I know they're great and I know the Pentagon says they can do it.
He's fucking around and going to get himself involved in that lawsuit.
jordan holmes
Blah, blah, lies, blah, blah.
dan friesen
Yeah, if he's not careful.
So Alex does mention that his ratings are up huge.
And that makes sense.
I mean, because he's driving a panic.
So I don't see any reason why...
jordan holmes
No, that's not out of the ordinary.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's celebrating that quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's immoral.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very much so.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with, I don't think God would like that.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying.
dan friesen
Speaking of God, Alex starts talking a little bit biblically on this episode.
Starts talking about Jesus.
jordan holmes
I think I always have a feel for it.
It's been too long since we've talked about God.
dan friesen
Some ramble about God.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we need something in there.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex notes that when he's out in public...
The leftists don't fuck with him anymore.
They don't yell at him like they used to.
jordan holmes
Please come near me.
Please come anywhere near me.
dan friesen
I don't believe what he's saying, first of all.
But then it leads into him saying something not true about the Bible.
alex jones
These leftists come up to me, they don't do it anymore, and tell me a bunch of crap, I get right back in their face.
And now the word's out there, I don't roll over, they're crap.
They want to throw a punch?
Well, they're going to get knocked upside their head harder than they probably got hit.
And guess what now?
They don't sit there and run their fat mouths to me in public.
I see them looking at us.
Because I'm the one that's taking it, rolling over.
Christ was on a mission to be crucified and die for our sins.
And he wasn't going to let anything get in the way of that when he turned his cheek.
The last thing he said to his disciples is, buy weapons.
Because the next time, I'm coming back with fire.
jordan holmes
Who wrote your Bible?
Stuart Rhodes?
alex jones
So you think about that.
dan friesen
Jesus' last words to the disciples were not, get weapons.
I'm coming back with fire.
jordan holmes
They were not.
They were not fucking.
dan friesen
When Jesus returned after he was crucified, he came back, appeared before the disciples, and he's like, strap up.
Get your nine.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex is taking the coming back with fire thing from Isaiah 66, 15. Quote, see the Lord is coming with fire and his chariots like a whirlwind.
He will bring down his anger with fury and his rebuke with flames and fire.
Isaiah is an Old Testament prophetic text, so it's important to remember the historical context of its writing when you're interpreting it, but whatever.
The part about how the disciples need to get weapons is from Luke 22, and it takes place during the Last Supper.
That part that people like Alex always quote is the line, quote, if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
This is all very good and well to say that Jesus said that, but it's taking away the surrounding context of the verse.
jordan holmes
No, everybody knows surrounding context doesn't have any effect on things, especially in the Bible.
dan friesen
Here's the fuller passage.
Quote, he said to them, but now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag, and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
It is written, and he was numbered with the transgressors, and I will tell you this must be fulfilled in me.
Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.
The disciples said, See, Lord, here are two swords.
And Jesus replied, That's enough.
The two parts there that the biblical scholars note in particular about this passage, the two things are the part where Jesus is talking about fulfilling his role and the fact that he says at the end that two swords are enough.
Two swords would not be enough to actually fight against the people wanting to crucify Jesus, so that interpretation doesn't make sense.
However, if you understand the line, that's enough, in the context of the fulfillment of Jesus' role, it starts to make a little more sense.
When Jesus is talking about his fulfillment, he describes it as involving him being, quote, numbered with the transgressors, which is to say that he would need to be considered and treated like a common criminal by the state.
As for this theory of the text, Jesus saying that's enough, he's saying that because his disciples being armed would be enough to create the perception that he was like a gang leader.
In the telling the disciples to get a sword, Jesus was attempting to fulfill the prophecy that he would need to be seen as a criminal to non-believers.
Other scholars believe that the swords themselves are a metaphor, but what no serious biblical scholar believes is that Jesus was telling his disciples they needed to get weapons, because it was about to be time to kill people.
jordan holmes
Listen up, the twelve of you, fucking mount up.
Regulators are about to deal with some shit, okay?
Also, of the twelve of us...
Two swords.
If you're in a fight, ask Paul to toss you the sword.
I get it.
Throwing swords is dangerous.
dan friesen
It's going to have to be choreographed.
That interpretation is unique to the Christian fascist types that Alex believes are the only true Christian.
jordan holmes
It tends to be.
dan friesen
Leaving aside his completely flawed and violent misrepresentation of the text, this was not the last thing that Jesus said to the disciples.
In fact, later on, when Jesus was arrested in the Garden of Gethsemane, he told Peter that those who live by the sword die by the sword.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, Alex has more biblical interpretations coming.
jordan holmes
Was Gutenberg really on the right path?
Weren't the priest doing a fairly good job reading the Bible?
Why did Alex get to do it?
dan friesen
I don't know if the priest should be the only ones, but someone should have stopped Alex.
That's for sure.
He's not good at this.
jordan holmes
That's right.
I'm anti-Gutenberg.
I'm finally coming up on it.
dan friesen
This is a hot take.
So Alex has more thoughts about killing and the Bible.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
And the biggest thing these lying churches have taught is thou shalt not kill.
That's not what it says in Greek or Hebrew or anywhere else.
It says thou shalt not murder.
Murder is killing an innocent person.
jordan holmes
Well, maybe we could do better than that.
alex jones
Old Testament, New Testament.
Somebody comes to your house at night to hurt you, rise up and kill them.
Pull up the quotes.
Bible verses, rise up and kill them.
Of course.
unidentified
Of course.
alex jones
All right, this is a short segment we're going to break for a minute, and I swear I'm going to your calls.
dan friesen
So this verse is, Alex, what he's talking about is Exodus 22.2.
Quote, if the thief is found breaking in and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed.
That's a little different from if a guy breaks into your house, rise up and kill him.
This is more or less just an ancient stand-your-ground law.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, the next verse literally says, quote, but if it happens after sunrise, the defender is guilty of bloodshed.
This loophole is only available at night, so if you kill someone breaking into your house during the day, you're guilty of bloodshed.
It would be interesting to see Alex try and weave that nuance into his dumb calls for religiously justified violence.
jordan holmes
It's always funny when the past has rules and you look at it and you're like, oh, so just...
Nighttime.
So we're living a daily purge.
The moment the sun goes down, purge.
dan friesen
But only if someone breaks into your house.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
I know.
jordan holmes
But like that idea of, hey, in the morning, everybody shakes hands.
We try it all again tomorrow night.
dan friesen
It would be really fun.
It would be really fun for Alex to try and incorporate that sundown sunup into his rants.
jordan holmes
All right.
The coronavirus has come.
Obama sold it.
It's time to rise up.
We're going to do it around...
What time is it?
7.32 is sunset tonight.
Everybody get ready.
Sunrises at 6.44.
We've got to be done.
We've got to be done.
Dan, check the Farmer's Almanac.
We'll see what it's like tomorrow night.
Everybody, we're going to have breakfast.
It's going to be great.
dan friesen
So Alex's big point here on this Monday show is that this is war.
We are at war.
The virus is war.
It is economic war.
It is also biological war, terrorism stuff.
Sure.
And he makes a pretty bold claim here.
alex jones
This is it.
This is America.
This is a greater threat than Hitler, folks, in 1940.
Okay?
And the Japanese, give me a break.
Once we geared up, I mean, come on, folks.
The United States, you attack the United States, you're going to get killed.
You're going to get destroyed.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Germany didn't attack the United States.
dan friesen
So, yeah, Japan did, and they got bombed pretty hard, though.
So Alex thinks that this is a bigger thing than World War II.
We're already in.
So that's great.
jordan holmes
Well, he's probably a Holocaust denier, so I would assume that...
dan friesen
I don't know if he is, but he certainly seems to hang out with an interview a lot of them.
jordan holmes
Seems to hang out with a lot of them.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So our last clip here from the 9th is just another instance of Alex selling this coronavirus cure in a way that I think is going to get him in trouble.
alex jones
We know no Red Shot.
This is from over 10 years ago.
And you can read where Dr. Keith Muller, CEO of American Biotech Labs, is talking to the Pentagon and talking to Texas A&M University.
And it's got the head of Homeland Security in here talking about how this patented nanosilver, Department of the Army Headquarters, United States Special Operations Command.
Found with Andrew C. Von Eckenbach, M.D., Commissioner of Food and Drugs, that it was taking out the SARS virus, which is the coronavirus family.
And that's just the nanotech silver that's in our super silver whitening toothpaste that's so good for your body.
That's in the super blue that also has the tea tree oil and iodine.
We also have it for children, all fluoride-free.
It's still all 50% off, even though we're about to sell out of the super silver.
We've still got quite a bit of the other two there.
dan friesen
He has that information that is about the wound gel.
It does not apply to the toothpaste.
He's going to get in trouble.
He's back on this.
I foresee some trouble from this.
All of this trouble mounting.
jordan holmes
What bums me out is when he does that toothpaste shit, it's like, this has been proven to help protect against the...
How lonely must it be to be a fan of Alex Jones in that you would genuinely believe that if all we needed to fight coronavirus was toothpaste, everybody in the world would...
Actively hide that information except Alex Jones.
dan friesen
It seems unbelievable.
jordan holmes
Think about how lonely that is.
dan friesen
It would be pretty tough.
jordan holmes
That's sad.
That's thinking that the entire human race is garbage.
I'm confused why they're not on Team Coronavirus at this point.
dan friesen
So we jump now to what everyone is, I'm sure, waiting for, which is March 10th, Tuesday.
jordan holmes
He double shaved his head.
dan friesen
More or less.
So Alex starts off the show by teasing, talking about His very fucked up night.
jordan holmes
Of course he would tease it.
Of course he would tease it.
What a dick!
dan friesen
He does not get down to business for a while.
jordan holmes
What a dick!
alex jones
We just had a kick-butt David Knight show on.
I was watching some of that this morning, getting ready for the transmission.
unidentified
Not possible.
alex jones
I haven't had any sleep tonight.
That's right, I had no sleep last night.
I'll tell you about that, too.
An interesting story.
Very informative.
Talking about a bird's eye view from a very interesting place.
So it's a big transmission today.
You don't want to miss it.
dan friesen
So that's how we're teasing this.
I had a really interesting experience last night.
Gives you a real bird's eye view on some stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We know that he got a DUI.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Or got arrested for a DUI.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But if you didn't know that, you're just like, wow, something interesting happened.
Something exciting.
jordan holmes
I better roll my windows down and tell everybody in the car to start listening.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be...
What you do?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, extra, extra, Alex got an interesting story.
So he gets back from break and he starts talking and it's enough to almost trick you into thinking that he's had a moment of real introspection.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I started to get really, I started to care a bit.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
A little bit.
Because I think some of the stuff he's saying is very accurate.
alex jones
Something very interesting happened this morning.
I was talking to one of the crew members from another part of the building, and he was like, you know, there's a rumor in the office that you use cocaine because there's no way you can be so tired during a break and then explode, you know, once you come back on air.
Well, that's what I do.
I care passionately about this.
And the reason InfoWars has been so successful is excitement is contagious.
Adrenaline.
And endorphins and focused anger is a drug.
It's a drug I use.
It's a drug I'm addicted to.
And it's a drug that I'm trying to get off of.
dan friesen
I mistook that for vulnerability when I heard that.
Because that is true.
Alex does use this performative, overblown excitement and manufactured anger in order to trick people into thinking that he passionately believes various things that are just made up or just manipulations.
So I heard him say that I'm addicted to this anger.
And I need to get off that drug.
And I thought, yeah, you do.
If you want to get help, then you should.
jordan holmes
That would be a good place to start, yeah.
dan friesen
And I was lulled into thinking maybe he was sincere by even more things, he says.
alex jones
That's the drug I'm on, is hatred of devil worshippers and pedophiles.
And it's an important drug.
It's why God gave it to us.
But, at the same time, I've got too much of it.
I've got too much of it.
I don't want to die of a heart attack at 50. Because I'm 46, man.
It's in my family's background.
Alpha male, super successful at everything.
Gigantic, spectacular heart attacks.
55, they're gone.
Then others learn how to chill out before then.
They live to be 90. I want to be those guys that live to 90. Hell, some of them 100.
dan friesen
So he realizes that there are health effects that come from this unbridled anger.
You know, high blood pressure or whatever.
And if you're listening to this...
jordan holmes
I start to lose your hair, baby.
Sure.
dan friesen
If you listen to this, you're thinking like, oh, yeah, okay.
You are too angry.
If you could learn maybe to go get some help with anger management, that'd be good.
jordan holmes
It'd be a good first step.
dan friesen
But I kind of suspect that what's really going on is that this was more a rationalization for his alcohol use.
alex jones
And it's better to be alive and burn twice as bright than to be...
Basically a dim bulb that is never awake, never cares, never has passions.
And that's why I talk about the man in the arena.
But that's why the left always says, Alex Jones, the cokehead.
Alex Jones, the drug addict.
Alex Jones this.
Alex Jones that.
And it's because they don't have that type of passion.
They don't have that drive, so they can't imagine somebody that can broadcast 10 hours a day if they need to and love it and want to come back at night and do more because they don't have that spark that sets fires in the minds of men and women everywhere.
But I know you have that spark and you have that focus and that's what we need more of.
Turn things around.
That's why last year I was a good boy for, I don't know, over four months.
Didn't have one drink.
Lost a whole bunch of weight.
Exercised better.
Felt so much good.
Then Christmas came around, started drinking again a little bit.
And I'm going to now endeavor just to 100% quit forever just because it takes my focus away.
But I take depressants.
I mean, I take natural knockout at night to help sleep.
That's a depressant.
Natural depressant.
I drink alcohol to not care.
Because I care too much.
And I take it to take the focus away, to take the clarity away, because I can't handle reality.
But you know what?
That's me being honest about it, that I go and hide in places like that.
dan friesen
That's a very typical thing you hear from people who have unhealthy relationships with alcohol.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So I got this feeling.
As I was listening to this, this is a guy rationalizing quite a bit.
But he doesn't get into talking about what actually happened to him the night before until deep into the show.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
There is just this sort of abstract conversation about these, I'm too passionate, and I have this drug of anger that I use, and I use alcohol in order to deal with how alive and passionate I am about the fight against the globalists.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I think there's a dual layer to it, but whatever.
Alex gets mad, though, and he starts ranting about how real he is and how people said that he was an actor during his custody case.
And again, I would remind you, that was Alex's lawyer who said that as a justification for some of the things he says on air.
alex jones
And that's why the system constantly says Alex Jones is a fake, Alex Jones is a phony, Alex Jones doesn't have integrity, Alex Jones' lawyer says that he is an actor.
None of that's true.
They were trying to enter as evidence that I was insane in a Joker makeup saying put floor on the water.
I was doing a satire piece.
I was being an actor there.
But I'm not an actor when I'm on the show being Alex Jones myself as a father and a man and as a Christian and as a human telling the truth.
So the globalists are great at stealing our identity, saying we're racist, saying we're bad.
It's not true.
I care about humanity.
jordan holmes
Disagree.
alex jones
And I will not let them steal my identity.
And that's why it's so important for all of you to be vocal and all of you to be involved because they want to steal your identity.
And when you don't speak at it, when you're not involved, they can lie and take...
Your voice as well.
Don't let Ursula take your voice like she did the Little Mermaid and make one of those little slaves down in her pit.
jordan holmes
Her name was Ariel, thank you very much.
alex jones
Use that voice and empower yourself and future generations.
dan friesen
So if you don't know what's going on, clearly you can tell if you read between the lines that something bad...
jordan holmes
Something bad really happened.
dan friesen
There is a story that is going to be in the papers and Alex is trying to...
Be like, well, hey, remember back when they tried to say that I was an actor because my lawyer used that as a defense?
Yep.
Hey, it's going to be like that again.
They want to take your identity.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
If you're just listening to this, you're like, ooh, something real bad is about to happen.
jordan holmes
We're on hour two of preemptive lying about bullshit.
I think we're going to deal with some real shit here.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets on to rambling about various things.
There's some surface-level stuff about the coronavirus that's just all the same, kind of, as what we've experienced.
jordan holmes
Right, he's not really paying attention to it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's almost going through the motions.
Takes some phone calls that are boring along the way, and Mike Adams shows up and they talk about nothing.
But before he gets to his actual news of his DUI...
He just starts, like, getting real weird.
jordan holmes
Well, that sounds right.
dan friesen
This is Project Camelot stuff.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Listen to this.
alex jones
If you look at the architecture of the rollout and the smartphones and the system of making the world uninhabitable for humans...
dan friesen
Which is the globalist plan that he's talking about here.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes, yes.
alex jones
It's alien.
And again, the Bible says there is a fallen entity that is immortal.
jordan holmes
Does it say that?
alex jones
That lives here but can't get off and is imprisoned and hates us because we were made by the dude that marooned them here.
That's the coolest science fiction book ever, man.
2,000 years ago.
3,000 years ago.
The Egyptians were saying that too.
You don't just think the Jews just cooked that up 3,000 years ago.
We're putting in the Old Testament and the New Testament.
jordan holmes
Why don't you think that?
alex jones
The Indians say that in their Sanskrit and it's in the carvings and that's what it is, folks.
Some really nasty, nasty aliens who really want to hurt you.
Humans that collaborate with them through a spiritual interface.
On the internet, you don't see it, but it's a spiritual interface.
jordan holmes
Who built the pyramids?
alex jones
It's a transmission.
They've now proven that that's going on.
Hummingbirds know how to fly from Canada to Guatemala.
jordan holmes
Who built the pyramids?
alex jones
Tell me!
jordan holmes
Tell me who built them.
alex jones
They're building a thing to kill everybody.
jordan holmes
Who is?
alex jones
The aliens?
Sold out to them.
Don't worry.
You'll merge the machines and join us soon.
Yes.
Oh, yes, master.
I can't believe I'm talking to you.
We've got a very nice plan for you.
And notice the media never attacks me for covering all that.
Because they all know that's true.
Everybody I've talked to, high-level Silicon Valley, is getting caught.
jordan holmes
Music's getting real loud.
alex jones
Of UFOs.
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy.
dan friesen
Everyone in Silicon Valley is in a UFO cult.
Cut to break.
I love just the idea of the years of Alex being like, I'm not into that UFO alien stuff.
jordan holmes
No, not me.
dan friesen
All the media tries to say that I'm this alien guy.
I'm not into that stuff.
Now, granted, underneath all of my beliefs...
Secretly, I believe aliens are behind all of it.
jordan holmes
Yes, no, obviously, but I'm not that guy.
dan friesen
And the Bible is ancient sci-fi about aliens.
It's also true.
jordan holmes
Look, just because I believe it doesn't mean I'm that guy.
You know that guy.
I'm this guy.
alex jones
I'm not that guy.
dan friesen
No, I'm a guy who lies about being that guy, so I don't look like that guy publicly.
jordan holmes
You don't like that guy.
dan friesen
I want to be taken seriously.
I want to be this guy.
That guy isn't taken seriously, so I will be alien guy secretly.
jordan holmes
Now, obviously, when the Bible was written, they were referencing Satan.
Satan was a metaphor.
The giant evil alien that lives beneath us and is immortal.
Obviously.
dan friesen
Fuck yourself.
jordan holmes
Who built the pyramids, Alex?
Tell me!
dan friesen
You should send him a message.
jordan holmes
I want to know!
dan friesen
So Alex gets off also yelling about Drag Queen story time, story hour, and I've cut out all that stuff because it's all very standard nonsense, but it leads to an indication that Alex might be taking some time off in the near future.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
alex jones
Oh, Jiminy Crickets.
unidentified
Anyways, see, I'm going to take a vacation next week.
alex jones
I'm not going out of town, but everyone's insisted that I take a week off, and somehow, how do you take a week off during this coronavirus insanity?
dan friesen
When you're falling apart?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, people are asking him, maybe even saying, you have to take some time off.
This is just bad.
I mean, I don't want to make fun of it because it's deeply wrought territory.
jordan holmes
No, what fucks me up is that the two of us maybe hate Alex more than any other people on the planet.
And how long have we been saying that he needs to get help?
dan friesen
Long time.
jordan holmes
A long fucking time.
dan friesen
To the point where the audience was tired of me.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Yes!
And now we get here and that's where...
Fuck that!
I'm so mad.
I'm so mad at this.
I feel personally betrayed.
I hate him.
I hate him so much, and now he's...
dan friesen
But I don't think he's going to get help, honestly.
Of course not.
I think you'll be right back to hating him by the end of this, and I think a lot of the empathy will go away.
But I do think it is like the rot situation that I'm describing is like, this isn't isolated.
This isn't a bubble.
Alex's behavior affects other people around him.
And that is a really difficult situation to be in when you're married to him or his kid and he's behaving in these ways that are really destructive.
It's not...
It's not a situation where I want to make fun of Alex because his behavior is other people's pain.
You can kind of tell by these things that are coming into it.
The people are saying, you've got to take some time off.
Those are people who are concerned for his well-being.
Or his behavior is affecting them in a way that they need him to stop doing those things.
It's fucked up.
And I think he's still drunk from the night before.
jordan holmes
Fair.
dan friesen
Because he says this.
alex jones
You know who we need for president?
I'm serious.
Step aside, Donald Trump, and give me Tucker Carlson.
I'm serious.
Because I'm thinking this stuff, and I'm saying it, and I watch Tucker a couple days later, and I'm not saying he's copying us, though he is a viewer, but he's got knowledge, I've got knowledge, we distill it, and he knows how to distill it.
dan friesen
Yeah, Tucker for president.
jordan holmes
I can't think of a more nightmarish scenario.
dan friesen
Have we ever had a bow-tied president?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Maybe it's time.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Was Taft a bow-tie guy?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
A bow-taft guy?
dan friesen
So, before getting to his actual story, Alex engages again on March 10th with selling this silver stuff in a really bad way.
jordan holmes
Now is not the time.
alex jones
I'm not going to belabor this.
I'm just going to tell you that for just your daily life and your gums and your teeth and for regular viruses and bacteria, the patented nanosilver we have, The Pentagon has come out and documented and Homeland Security and said this stuff kills the whole SARS-CoV-2 family at point-blank range.
Well, of course it does.
It kills every virus.
But they found that.
This is 13 years ago.
And the Pentagon uses the product we have.
And the product we have in private label is about to be in Walmart coming up.
They've just ordered a massive crap ton of them.
Not the one they have, but this even better one that we have.
So I'm just saying we're always cutting edge, thank to God.
dan friesen
Be careful, Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So, he also is talking about the food buckets, of course.
Food bucket sales are still being pushed, and we get an update on that.
It was six to eight weeks.
jordan holmes
Now we're at six to eight months?
dan friesen
I think six to eight weeks, maybe 12 weeks.
I'm not entirely sure, but there's other news.
alex jones
We have storeable food in stock, but we have to package it, and it's six to eight weeks behind shipping it out to you.
Other people will lie to you.
The big old Pinocchio noses.
We're not.
That's what's going on.
You want storable food?
You want to get delivered?
This thing of it is super bad.
Peaks in about.
12 weeks in the U.S., the model show, so you'll get your food, m4x4.com.
jordan holmes
The fake model.
alex jones
It's a very low price.
They haven't raised prices yet, but I'm told it's next week.
dan friesen
Next week, prices are going up.
So get your orders in.
jordan holmes
Not only do you only have a theoretical four weeks before the real shit goes down that you need to get this if you order it today, but also...
There's only a week left in time before the price goes up on top of that.
dan friesen
He's told that by his friends over at My Patriot Supply.
Prices are going up.
Better get those in now.
jordan holmes
Didn't he say specifically earlier?
dan friesen
But we also don't want more orders because they have too many orders that are overloaded with orders.
Don't want more, but I am going to try and encourage you to order now because prices are going up next week.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
Very, very contradictory stuff.
jordan holmes
This is aggressively mean.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex gets into talking.
This next clip is along the same lines of these ideas of stealing your identity.
The globalists, they try and paint you in a certain way.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Like as somebody who might get a DUI immediately after getting one.
dan friesen
Well, that's not clear yet on the show.
But Alex is wrestling with these thoughts about how they'll paint you in certain ways.
And he says, I don't want to be associated with the things they associate me with.
alex jones
In fact, this is something I've been going to say for two years.
But it would take a whole show to say it.
I don't want my identity to be Donald Trump.
jordan holmes
Too late.
alex jones
I don't want your identity to be Donald Trump.
Liberty and freedom cannot be all staked on this dude or me.
They think the liberty movement is staked on Alex Jones.
They know this audience, this operation, I'm the focal point, is relaunched Liberta worldwide, so they want to demonize me, shut me down, attack me, make me give up, so they can then say, oh, look, we destroyed their champion.
As long as you realize that my destruction is our empowerment, and I'm not asking for it, but if it needs to happen, so be it.
It's just that that is not an enemy victory.
The attack on this operation is a sign of our prowess and our devastating success with truth against their operations.
dan friesen
Again, this consistent mentality that bad things and negative feedback is equivalent to proof of you doing a good job is just never, never good.
It's just a really bad way to look at things.
jordan holmes
No, it's a recipe for acting out like an asshole.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex now teases.
unidentified
More.
jordan holmes
I can't believe that he's turning this into a fucking who shot JR scenario.
dan friesen
He doesn't actually get to the story until the second hour.
jordan holmes
That's fucked up.
What an asshole.
alex jones
And then I guess I'll just do this at the start of the next segment.
I'll talk about some personal things that have gone on with me that are interesting and that you should know about here first before the spin doctors have had their chance to have fun with it.
jordan holmes
Is that us?
unidentified
And I don't want to tell them that there's no such thing as bad press.
Just because they put out fake stuff doesn't hurt us because people know they're a bunch of liars.
Because I'm going to tell people the exact truth when I come back.
alex jones
So get ready for that on the other side.
unidentified
Don't tell anybody we're talking about it, alright?
alex jones
I love how the corporate media will just ignore whatever I say on a topic even though it's about me and just say their lie.
But you hear it and then you promulgate it.
And without you, I am so dead in the water.
But that's okay.
Because the Alamo went down in flames as well.
dan friesen
Yeah, and Colonel Travis was a drunk too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it might be appropriate.
I will say that that whispering thing is fucked up.
Very weird decision on his part.
jordan holmes
That's not what I would want a kid to hear if this is a family show.
dan friesen
Yeah, if it's in your pocket at Costco.
Very weird.
But it's exactly the sort of thing if you hadn't slept.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does sound right.
dan friesen
You might throw in that kind of a quirk.
jordan holmes
God, this is like an arc of DBZ.
Fucking fight Frieza already.
I'm sick of the goddamn recap episodes.
Get to it!
Get on it, goddammit!
dan friesen
So Alex, he's saying there, obviously, I need to get ahead of the story.
They'll never use my words.
I'm listening to you, Alex.
We're listening to you.
I'll listen to your whole goddamn thing.
You hear there at the end, without you, without the audience, I'm dead.
And I think that's a recognition that Alex knows this is a bigger issue than even just a DUI.
So Alex gets back and he starts talking about the actual story.
And of course, he dances around it a little bit and he talks about, I don't really even drink much.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course.
alex jones
I want to not just get ahead of something, but...
I actually enjoy talking about this because it was quite the experience to see what's going on in this country and to go through it myself.
Now, I've talked about this on air quite a bit, that I've been a heavy drinker at times, not drunk at times, probably went more than four months just last year not drinking at all.
And I've certainly gotten to the point where I don't have more than a beer or a glass of wine and drive a car because then I know that I will never blow above 0.8.
dan friesen
I have no proof that he drove after that CPAC rally, but he certainly had more than one beer or glass of wine.
jordan holmes
I would say so, yeah.
dan friesen
I will tell you that definitively.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So here comes the story.
Alex was out to dinner with his wife.
They went to go get some sushi, and that's where everything fell apart.
jordan holmes
Global-ish sushi?
dan friesen
Probably.
alex jones
Well, last night I'd been out at a Japanese restaurant with my wife, and got this little bitty tiny bottle of sake.
I mean, just...
It's a little bitty shot glasses of it, but it's just a tiny little bottle of sake, maybe 16% alcohol.
She didn't drink a lot of it.
We didn't even finish it.
I drank probably half of it.
We go home.
Later, need some from the store.
I drive out.
Lights turn on.
Pulls me over.
Says, oh, you match the description of a black car we heard with some domestic dispute in the area.
I go, okay, well, what was that speed?
He goes, yeah, five miles of the speed limit.
Need you to get out of the car.
So I get out of the car and he says, you've been drinking?
And I said, yeah, about two hours ago I went and ate at a Japanese restaurant and had a small bottle of sake with my wife.
And he says, all right.
Then he starts having me do these, what do you call them?
He has a variety check where you stand on one foot and look at the other for 10 seconds.
He shows me what to do and he can't do it.
And he goes, oh, well, that's my weight.
That's my belt did that.
So I start laughing.
Then I knew I wasn't being mean.
I was just like, so I did it, but I was wobbling at 10 seconds.
dan friesen
So Alex isn't really telling the whole truth here.
According to this article about his arrest in the Austin American Statesman, the only reason the police were there is because Alex's wife called them.
From the article, quote, an arrest affidavit for Jones says a sheriff's deputy responded at 10.10 p.m.
Monday to a western Travis County residence for a disturbance reported by Jones's wife.
His wife had told the dispatcher they were in a verbal fight that had been physical earlier in the day, the affidavit says.
She said Jones was leaving the residence in a black Dodge Charger and that he was possibly drinking, the affidavit says.
When Alex says that the cop pulled him over because his car looked like one that matched a description, that's because it matched the description of his car, which the police were looking for because his wife had called the police.
He was the person the police were looking for, and he was going 45 in a 40-mile-per-hour zone.
When the deputy pulled him over, he, quote, had a strong odor of alcohol, which is not surprising.
According to the affidavit, Alex's story on air is completely a lie.
On air, Alex says that he was going out to get the thing from the store.
He later says that it's a Blue Bell ice cream.
He says that's when he got pulled over.
That's what he was doing.
But the affidavit tells a totally different story.
According to the report, Alex and his wife got into an argument at dinner over sushi.
Then, quote, Jones ended up walking three miles home from dinner.
When he arrived home, they continued arguing, the affidavit says.
Jones stated he then proceeded to drive to another residence he owns downtown to get away from his wife.
That's what Alex told the cops the night before.
And now he's completely lying about that on air.
Alex wasn't going to get ice cream.
He'd just gotten into a drunken fight with his wife.
Anyway, the point is that Alex is a piece of shit.
His ex-wife has said that he was abusive, and now we have his current wife calling the police because of a protracted fight that had been physical at one point, leading to him getting arrested for a DUI.
And then, of course, Alex turns around and he's trying to play the victim here on his show because he's a narcissistic monster who takes things out on his audience.
The basic facts of the matter here are that he got booked into county jail in Travis County at 12.37am on Tuesday morning.
And he was charged with suspicion of driving while intoxicated, which is a Class B misdemeanor.
He ended up getting released at 4.11am.
So those are the time stamps on a lot of this stuff.
So after he fails this field sobriety test with the officer out on here, where he's telling this story on air, and he's already lying, based on his own telling in the affidavit.
unidentified
Everything.
dan friesen
So he's got this situation with the cop, fails the sobriety test, and then he has to go in for a breathalyzer.
alex jones
And he goes, well, that's it.
You're going to jail.
And I said, man, I just told you I had...
Hours ago, alcohol, probably not even in my body.
And he said, well, you failed this part.
I said, were you going to breathalyze me?
He goes, no, they do that at the jail.
So we got there in like 20 minutes.
They go in, and they had me blown.
They go, keep blowing.
So I leave, and they put me in the tank.
The next guy comes through.
He goes, Alex Jones is here.
He goes, there he is, Alex Jones.
They're all in there saying that you literally don't have any alcohol in your blood at any level.
They can barely even pick up, and you shouldn't be here.
This is crazy.
Why are you here?
And it wasn't until I got out this morning that I actually got the paperwork, and that's what's really weird.
dan friesen
What a shock.
Alex has some fake anonymous jailhouse snitches who are telling him that, hey, they're saying that you're actually sober.
Isn't that crazy?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jailhouse snitches, man.
You get locked up in county for five seconds, and all these jailhouse snitches are running around telling you what the cops are secretly doing.
This is...
dan friesen
The cornerstone of Alex's sort of like evidence or narrative that they were trying to jam him up, basically.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's got these people.
jordan holmes
One of his jailhouse snitches was like, they're stitching you up.
They're coming for you.
They're saying that you were drunk.
dan friesen
It's ludicrous.
jordan holmes
They're going to send you the paperwork and it's going to be a bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he gets back into talking more about these jailhouse snitches.
alex jones
And it wasn't until I got out this morning that I actually got the paperwork, and that's what's really weird, is that there were two guys in there getting tested hearing that basically alcohol didn't even show up, and I'm not saying a conspiracy here.
I'm not saying the police are out to get me.
jordan holmes
That sounds like you're saying that.
alex jones
But still, the level they had was below the law and legal.
So, there you go.
But when you see this hit the news, and I welcome the policy.
Bring it, bring it.
It'll be Jones arrested for DWI.
You were.
Sandy Hook.
You know they're going to put that in there.
Sandy Hook denier arrested.
Well, you got arrested for Sandy Hook.
jordan holmes
You denied Sandy Hook.
alex jones
And it'll just be some wild-ass stuff, and I want you to hear it up front.
dan friesen
With my deceitful version of things.
jordan holmes
I want to give you a complete...
Fictional retelling of this whole circumstance for you.
That's what I'm here for.
I'm to protect you from the lies of the liberal media by telling you all kinds of fictional bullshit about all of my life.
dan friesen
Cool.
So Alex, I'm certain, is making up these people in jail.
jordan holmes
Were they in a hot tub at the same time?
dan friesen
Well, the hot tub does come up.
alex jones
I want you to hear it up front because I was being told this by folks that came out of there.
Going, yeah, they were talking about Alex Jones is here, and the first test showed no alcohol, and they couldn't believe it.
And, wait, it's him!
So they kept having me blow and blow and blow and blow, and I was like...
And I mean, because I'm a big guy, man, a little bitty bottle of wine at least two hours before.
And I've been at home, in the hot tub, drinking.
I mean, I did not have zero buzz.
Just zero.
dan friesen
I'm sorry, what did you just say?
I had been at the home at the hot tub drinking?
Here is just that part again, in case you missed it.
jordan holmes
Let's try that one more time.
alex jones
And I've been at home in the hot tub drinking.
I mean, I did not have zero buzz.
jordan holmes
Right.
Really quickly.
I mean, I did not have zero buzz.
I was drinking a glass of zero buzz whiskey.
dan friesen
That's what we call a tell.
I was drinking in the hot tub.
jordan holmes
Non-alcoholic whiskey.
dan friesen
Cool.
So, I should say, in the interest of full honesty, I got a DUI when I was 19. And I will say, from my experience, if you're someone who hasn't had a breathalyzer test done, it does feel weird.
Because you have to blow pretty hard, and it's not a comfortable thing.
It's not like your natural breathing.
So, oftentimes, they will have to have you be like, you have to do it in such a way.
So, I think that what Alex is describing, they made me keep doing it.
He wasn't doing it correctly.
And so they weren't able to carry out the test or whatever.
I don't hear anything here that indicates any sort of inappropriate procedure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, non-cooperative people trying to get a breathalyzer done is not easy.
dan friesen
It's tough.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I don't know anything, but Alex as a whole is a non-cooperative person.
dan friesen
It seems that way.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now we go back to...
The scene of the crime.
Yes.
The scene of Alex getting pulled over.
jordan holmes
When he was innocently trying to get Blue Bell ice cream, Dan.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Just a man going out to get ice cream after getting...
Look, just because he didn't put his shirt on after he left the hot tub and he got right into the car, didn't mean he was going to get ice cream.
Sure, he was holding that glass of whiskey with the ice all melted because he was in the hot tub drinking at the same time.
Sure, those are...
He's an honest, innocent man who is trying to get some ice cream.
Catch us up.
dan friesen
So when you're pulled over, oftentimes there will be various different things that officers will do to try and assess whether or not you're intoxicated.
There will be like you walk the line or try and stand on one leg or whatever.
And one of the main things they do is they flash a light in your eyes because the response that your eyes have are very indicative when you've been drinking.
And so Alex discusses that being done in this next clip.
alex jones
And he had this light in my eyes and all this other crap.
And then he'd sit there with a light over the other side just for...
A minute.
And I'd finally get tired and go, oh, involuntary.
I'm like, no, dude, I'm not going to stare for one minute at your light pen.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Non-cooperative.
alex jones
He wanted me.
And he got me.
But then I learned from the jail guards, they go, no, Travis County had the lowest level of arrest in the country.
It was a country.
It used to be the Lone Star State in Texas.
And so they had all this heat pump.
I'm going to pull up the articles.
It's true.
And so now it's not that deputy that did this.
It's just they pull you over and you're truthful and go, yeah, I had two beers a couple hours ago.
You're arrested.
Doesn't matter.
It's legal.
dan friesen
So Alex now is working on the narrative that they're just trying to jam everyone up.
jordan holmes
Man, Alex, I don't know if you know this or not.
The cops have been using quotas for a long time.
dan friesen
No, that's definitely true.
jordan holmes
I don't think I've heard him care too much about who those quotas have been.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like he's made a big...
Well, I mean, that's not entirely true if you go back like a decade.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right.
I apologize.
The decade was my fault.
dan friesen
So I don't believe these jailhouse sources who told him that they said he was sober.
And I don't think these guards exist either.
I think this is just Alex trying to...
jordan holmes
It's a whisper campaign, Dan.
dan friesen
So I would also argue that it's possible that Travis County, it's not so much a quota issue.
It might be a thing where they decided to take drunk driving more seriously because in 2017, the county saw a 70% increase in DWI-related deaths compared to 2016.
It's possible that they put rules in place to get a closer-to-zero-tolerance policy where officers' discretion is used to determine if someone is impaired, whether or not they blow a.8.
.08.
Even if you only have one beer and you blow a.01, if you're impaired in such a way that you can't operate a vehicle, you can still be arrested for driving while under an influence.
So if this officer who pulled over Alex had good cause to suspect that, there's no way that Alex didn't deserve to get arrested, regardless of what he blew.
jordan holmes
And it's obvious.
There's no reason that somebody who's swerving all over the road, drunk off of his ass, driving around, can't blow a.07, and the cop is like, Well, you got us this time, buddy.
We'll get you.
Oh, don't you have another drink?
We'll get you next hour.
It has to be about impairment, not about the actual number.
dan friesen
But they had probable cause.
Absolutely.
He reeked of booze.
The reason they pulled him over was because his wife called the police.
They were looking for his car.
That happens.
Everything about this is just...
jordan holmes
Well, we started out looking for the tank, but when we realized it was still in the office, we figured we'd look for your personal car.
dan friesen
Certainly.
So Alex is mad that Travis County is jamming people up.
jordan holmes
Oh, stitching people up left and right, Dan.
dan friesen
Now I think he's going to go on a crusade.
alex jones
They don't care if you're below the amount.
Now he gets beaten in court, but it's insane, folks.
They're now arresting people.
and taking them to jail and they're continuing prosecutions that show zero alcohol.
I've got news articles on that.
dan friesen
He's going to get to the bottom of this.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
And until his court date passes, this will be a major point.
jordan holmes
I think we're going to hear about it.
I think we're going to hear about it.
Somehow, I still don't think he's going to talk about whether or not people should be stitched up at Rikers Island.
I don't think he's going to care too much about that.
dan friesen
Not going to care at all.
jordan holmes
It's more about him and Travis County.
dan friesen
It's going to be very self-serving.
jordan holmes
Criminal justice reform is really about Alex.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex gets to talking about how, like, he stopped drinking for a while, and now he's back on drinking, which we were very clear about from the CPAC episode.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But he didn't...
I mean, like, this is kind of gross, and I don't want to make fun of it, because it's just a full expression of somebody who's, like, struggling.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
This will just be a huge other thing, but you know what?
I didn't even want alcohol when I started back on New Year's drinking some more.
And so I'm going to have that power over them that I'm going to 100% quit so that they can never again.
But, man, it's weird.
You go to a restaurant, they're like, hey, one wine, one beer, and you can't have one bottle of sake was this tall between two people.
dan friesen
This tall.
So, I mean, what he's expressing, I didn't even want alcohol when I started drinking again, and now I'm going to really quit.
It's just the sort of thing that is very standard.
People with problems with alcohol talk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, in stand-up, that's something that I've heard all the time.
In my life, that's something I've heard all the time.
Everywhere that I go where people are seriously struggling with alcohol, those are the same words that are said over and over and over again.
And it's like, man, I hate him, but he needs help.
He needs help somebody.
dan friesen
So, in order to prove his innocence...
jordan holmes
Yes.
Wait, what were we doing?
Was that on the table?
dan friesen
Alex is going to prove his innocence.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's on the table.
dan friesen
The way he decides to go about it is to show his alcohol test results on air.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Oh, let me just show you.
Hell, we're the show-me show here in Missouri.
Let me show you right here.
dan friesen
Beat Missouri out of this.
alex jones
Here you go, ladies and gentlemen.
Here is my alcohol test right here.
Two of them they put on there.
unidentified
0.076.
What do I feel shades of Elizabeth Warren?
alex jones
0.08.
unidentified
It's the one.
alex jones
They even lowered it.
That's like one beer, basically.
dan friesen
There's no way that Alex's story about drinking a little sake at dinner, then hours later getting pulled over, can be true if you almost blew a.08.
It's really hard to nail down the exact numbers because things can vary from person to person and depending on their weight.
But generally speaking, for a person over 220 pounds to have a BAC of.08, it's absolutely categorically not one beer.
If Alex's story is to be true, that it was hours after dinner, then he definitely kept drinking after dinner, maybe in that hot tub, because otherwise he would not have blown to.076.
It's just not possible.
His body would have metabolized that alcohol by that point.
There's no way he's being honest about this, and it's just a desperate attempt to save And it's even worse than that, too, because, like, there's the time...
It's different.
It's just all...
But anyway, he's innocent.
jordan holmes
Oh, I forgot.
alex jones
Alex Jones, there's your takeaway.
Innocent.
Alex Jones arrested for DWI and was below the legal limit.
But when they put it out in the news, it will be the exact opposite giant fiasco that I was...
You know, murdering children and running around with sickles, chopping people's heads off and burning down houses with canisters of gasoline and snorting 14 lines of, you know, 14-foot lines of cocaine and shoving bottle rockets up my rear end.
I mean, by the time they're done, it's just going to be, oh, he's arrested, he's arrested, he's arrested!
dan friesen
So he's just making a mockery with the straw men versions of things that people will say about it as opposed to...
He got arrested for a DWI after getting into a fight with his wife.
jordan holmes
I have been in that situation before, talking with somebody, saying almost word for word that same kind of shit.
Not the press is going to take me down, but it's like, oh, they call me such a bad person because all I had was a few drinks.
Oh, they're going to say that I'm killing babies now.
That's what they're going to do.
And it's like, I want to grab you by the shoulders and just scream, take some fucking responsibility!
dan friesen
It's a deflection.
So Alex drops one little bit of information here.
And actually, I later found this in the article about his affidavit.
But it makes this way worse.
alex jones
It was 10 o 'clock at night.
I've been in a hot tub.
dan friesen
So the hot tub part doesn't make anything better or worse.
jordan holmes
No, no, I don't think so.
dan friesen
But the detail about 10 p.m. does.
Because he said he just had sake at dinner.
And in the affidavit, it estimates the time that he was at dinner was 8. The two results of the BAC test were done five minutes apart when he finally got processed.
One was at 11.55 p.m., almost two hours after he was pulled over.
That was the one that he had a.076, whereas the other one was done at 11.59 p.m., five minutes later.
And that one was.079, which tends to imply that he had drank a bit of the booze pretty recently before he got pulled over.
Since it could be the fact, based on those two readings, that his BAC was on its way up.
It was climbing, as opposed to him sobering up in between those two tests.
unidentified
So, I don't know.
jordan holmes
He was drunk.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the bottom line.
Anyway, Alex takes this.
He has this mentality that's like, I am pretending that I just had one beer.
And that means that no one can have a beer and then drive.
Therefore, all bars must be closed.
alex jones
Here's the thing.
Restaurants should not be allowed to sell alcohol if these laws continue.
You shouldn't be able to serve somebody a beer.
If they drink that 16-ounce beer and walk out, they're going to go to jail.
So I called for all restaurants and bars to be shut down.
Seriously.
Because you can't go in one and have two beers and then not go to jail.
dan friesen
I'd like to remind everyone that Alex pretends to be a libertarian.
Yep.
He seems to pretend that you go into a bar and have some drinks and then you have to drive.
jordan holmes
I mean, the thing about it is, what people aren't talking about is how it's literally everybody else's fault but mine.
And in fact, I am so not at fault, I challenge you to close down all restaurants across this great nation.
If you don't want me to drive drunk, you shouldn't own a restaurant.
And that's true.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
I mean, I know that he's not being literal and he's trying to make some sort of a point with this thought experiment of closing all bars.
But the point is dumb.
jordan holmes
It's very dumb.
dan friesen
You made a decision, Alex.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
And in fact, something that you are very strong about is how people should make decisions and take responsibility for them.
dan friesen
Seems like that's something he has said.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Now, one thing that I need to make very clear is that I think this is pretty serious.
And I think that Alex is in a really bad place.
And I think that the DUI is obviously a piece of that.
But then the surrounding details of it being like, he got into a fight with his wife at a sushi place, walked three miles home, kept fighting with her, was obviously drinking more, then trying to drive to another property to get away from her.
She calls the police.
And then he gets arrested.
The circumstances surrounding that are really, really fucked up.
jordan holmes
It's a fiasco.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also a lot of it does fall under the heading of his personal life.
And to an extent, that's not in my purview.
Yeah.
But the thing that I need to make a point of is everybody posting tons and tons of tweets and all this about his DUI.
He knows that that's exactly what he wants you to do.
alex jones
So, hey, I'm ready for the mainstream media attention.
Bring it to me, because the listeners know you're a pack of lying scum.
Travis County, great folks.
We understand you got a quota.
It's okay.
Plus, I told you I only had that small amount.
dan friesen
Alex knows that there's not a ton of consequences for his actions.
It's a Class B misdemeanor.
He's not going to prison for it.
It'll be a fine of some sort or whatever.
He can pay that off from the food bucket money that he's made.
So that's not a huge deal.
He knows his audience is perfectly manipulatable, so he'll just lie to them about the circumstances.
I was just going to get some Blue Bell ice cream.
jordan holmes
I didn't even drink that much!
dan friesen
They weren't looking for me.
All that's fine.
He's not going to suffer that much of a consequence, but...
He's also told his audience that everyone who talks about him is lying.
So all of this stuff, everybody posting about his DUI is free press for him.
And he experiences that way.
And I think that that is going to be the largest hurdle to him getting the help that he needs.
Not that everyone posting about it is impeding his ability to get help.
It's just that him experiencing that as a positive is like...
jordan holmes
Because if you get any negative reaction from people, that is how you know you're doing a good job.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, if you recognize that he could get this much free press out of a DUI.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he'd probably have been driving drunk all the time.
Oh, yeah.
He may very well have been.
dan friesen
You think it was a false flag?
jordan holmes
This may have been pre-planned.
There's a whole thing.
I think Bush is behind all of this, Dan.
dan friesen
It could be.
jordan holmes
Bush and Cheney.
That's who's done it.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back from the break, and he has some ground rules.
He's going to be taking calls for the show, but he has.
jordan holmes
What would the ground rules be?
alex jones
I got one rule today.
I want to talk about me or the story I told about last night.
I want to move forward with this coronavirus and the clear fact that it is a bioweapon.
dan friesen
All right, callers.
No talking about how I spent the night in jail.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, right?
No talking about the one thing that all of you want to talk about right now.
dan friesen
Hey, nobody bring up the details from that Austin American Statesman article.
Yeah, don't do that.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
So, we've heard throughout the course of these days that we've been covering, Alex sort of threatening murder if any of his family members get coronavirus.
jordan holmes
He'll drive drunk at them, yeah.
dan friesen
And now he puts the government of China on notice.
jordan holmes
About time.
dan friesen
That he's coming for.
jordan holmes
About time.
dan friesen
Rambo style.
jordan holmes
Drunk driving right into China's walls.
alex jones
Let me just tell the Chi-Com something.
Any of my family gets hurt, I'm going to hold them personally responsible.
So, just tell them.
jordan holmes
Just all of China?
Just tell China.
dan friesen
I just imagine Alex showing up in China like, where's the government?
unidentified
I'm going to beat him up.
jordan holmes
Especially if the warning is just like, hey, you tell two people and you tell two people and eventually we'll get back to Xi.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is in this mode.
There's a bit of threatening, violent talk, particularly surrounding the virus, like someone's got to pay kind of thing.
alex jones
We don't want this civil war.
And we don't hunt the police, and we don't hunt the military in a civil war.
We go around them, if we ever get to that point, to the kingpins who are in the deck of cards who are running the show, and we know who they are.
And it'll be their own security people in New Zealand, and in Hawaii, and in Montana, and in Canada.
I can just tell you, there's no conspiracy.
I'm not in some meeting with people.
They all are ready for when the globalists try to take America down.
The first thing...
These globalists are going to get is garotid.
They're all going to get a wire wrapped around their neck and they're going to get killed in about 15 seconds.
And the globalists know I don't just say stuff, okay?
You're all dead, okay?
So go ahead and fill your hand.
Go ahead and play your game.
You're dead.
I'm dead too, but it's fine.
Let's go.
So they know how it is and they're losing.
So they want to use a creepy virus to scare us all so it's not people.
But everybody knows what's happened.
So if their virus is successful, all these globalists, not by my hand, I can just tell you, the people know who you are.
They're sick of you.
And they're going to break your neck.
dan friesen
So this is not the first time we've heard that fantasy being played out by Alex.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
It seems like he just applies that to whatever situation he's talking about.
Like, your security people are going to garrot you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's like he's just looking for an excuse to trigger that fantasy.
jordan holmes
Well, that's one of the things.
Like, thinking about this, the reason that right now I want him off air.
It's not mainly so he gets help.
It's mainly because when Alex is in a bad, shitty mood and his life is in shambles, when he goes on air, he tells people to start the fucking Civil War.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I mean, that's the inability of his narcissism to be controlled.
jordan holmes
Yeah, when he's in a bad mood.
Yeah, that's it.
dan friesen
He experiences his own personal troubles as being, like, devastating worldwide things.
But to be fair, even when things are going all right, he's still a little bit...
jordan holmes
Well, that's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
But he's a violent guy.
jordan holmes
He's a really violent dude.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he gets, you know, he's like, hey, man, you know, I'm not on drugs.
I'm high on the Holy Spirit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
At one point.
This is absurd.
unidentified
Today's Tom Sawyer, me, me, right.
alex jones
I just got hired to try to listen to that music.
Jones, why are you so alive?
What are you on?
I'm on Jesus Christ, the ultimate drug.
I'm on the Holy Spirit.
dan friesen
No, you spent the night in jail.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You didn't sleep.
Uh-uh.
Uh-uh.
You are hallucinating.
You are not high on the Holy Spirit.
You are talking directly to a fucking bunny that looks like the Holy Spirit.
dan friesen
That's why.
If you don't sleep and you listen to Tom Sawyer by Rush, it's going to fuck you up.
And listen to what happens.
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
That science is what that is.
alex jones
So awesome that this weak vessel cannot even begin to show you God's power.
But nevertheless, through this little crack in the veil that is InfoWars, you can see the spirit.
In fact, can we just recue that music for a minute?
Because there's a lot of music out there, but the way that synthesizer comes in and that Rush song...
At the beginning of Tom Sawyer is so powerful.
Can we cue that up?
Like in heaven, you're not supposed to just hear that over and over again.
unidentified
A Monday warrior, mean, mean stride.
Today's Tom Sawyer, mean, mean pride.
alex jones
One more time.
Do it back out.
One more time.
Somebody has going threes.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Get it.
unidentified
I don't know about you, but I'm not worried about taking on the gloves.
alex jones
I just want to make sure when I'm climbing that hill that I've got all the strength I've got.
I take every step just right because I'm not too confident.
So I get up there to the top of that hill and I get my hands around that little demon's neck and I watch those lights go out and you know we beat them.
dan friesen
That's not not a guy who didn't spend the night in jail.
unidentified
He has to play the intro to the Rush song three times.
jordan holmes
Pew!
dan friesen
That synth is what you hear in heaven all the time.
jordan holmes
This is all a fantasy from Ewan McGregor in Trainspotting.
What is happening?
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
So Alex starts yelling about how his products are good because he sells them.
And you know...
jordan holmes
Does he have a hangover cure?
Probably.
dan friesen
Probably Brain Force.
jordan holmes
Yeah, something like that.
dan friesen
He wouldn't be able to sell you something that wasn't good.
You understand?
Therefore, his products are good.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's true.
alex jones
You need all this.
These are awesome products.
Try them and experience it.
Because you can't lose.
Because you know InfoWars delivers in the fight.
So if it was just a cardboard box you were getting, you're funding InfoWars to win.
unidentified
But this is badass stuff!
alex jones
You think I'm going to produce a sweet pain that doesn't have the purest, most hardcore stuff in it that's natural?
jordan holmes
We can dig it.
alex jones
You think I would put my name on something and screw you, metaphysically knowing I'd be in the clown devil operation if I did that?
I actually get nervous.
I'm not afraid of the globalists, but I'm afraid of not doing the very best for you.
Are we sure it's the best?
And I'm running around constantly because I can't tell you something unless I...
Absolutely no, it's true!
Because I'm the polar opposite of the liars.
They told me today, they said, don't go on air and say you got pulled over for a DW.
Don't talk about that.
I got tested, it was below the legal limit.
I told the cop I did nothing wrong.
I've been vindicated.
Who cares?
I'm not drag queen story, Trump, trying to stick my Johnson in your five-year-old.
jordan holmes
Now you're trying to hit him with a car.
alex jones
Not me!
dan friesen
That's the issue.
Not me.
jordan holmes
Never me.
dan friesen
That's some of that rage that is that drug that he seems to pretend to want to be off of.
jordan holmes
It's all of you.
You know how when you go to a library and I read a book by somebody, that's exactly as dangerous as when I am drunkenly driving in the middle of the night in Austin.
It's the same.
Actually, it's worse.
It's worse.
It's everybody else's fault.
It's everybody else's fault.
dan friesen
This is just, I mean, it's standard stuff for him for the most part, but the context of it makes it grim.
jordan holmes
The stakes are high.
dan friesen
But it's also so much sadder, you know?
Anyway, we have one last clip here, and it's Alex kind of crying, talking about courage.
jordan holmes
I assumed we would get there sooner or later.
We were going to get some tears.
There's no way we avoided that one.
dan friesen
My dude hasn't slept.
He's going to get to the point of tears at some point.
alex jones
But let me tell you something right now.
We're going to win because of you.
And taking your kids to school and working hard and being a decent person and loving God is all you need to do.
That's all the wealth in the world is just love and justice and just love and God.
You do that, everything else is handled.
You love God, you want to be a good person, you just love God.
It's that spirit, it's that relationship.
I love God, I love justice.
That's all the wealth, it's all the power, it's everything.
Just you love God, you want to be a good person.
And then you have courage.
Because that's God.
unidentified
Courage isn't something we come up with.
alex jones
It's God's will.
And it's like a fire hose of power.
You ever seen big dams, gates open when there was a big flood, and it's just blasting out?
God's looking for people that can handle that level of power and who don't use power.
To oppress people, but use it to expand human consciousness.
And the minute you enter into that gate, you are now in the presence of God.
And you feel that presence.
You don't fear the New World Order or all the slime bags or all the cowards anymore.
You just want to be in alignment with God.
dan friesen
Or you want to drink in your hot tub.
It's good to know that...
jordan holmes
Well, I'll tell you this.
He's on the road to recovery.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's the part that's really difficult for me, is that I get my empathy triggered at the beginning of the 10th episode when he's talking about how he's addicted to this anger and it's a problem for him and he wants to do better.
Then you start to realize maybe that's only in service of trying to justify the drinking in order to dull...
The righteous anger that he has and the clarity.
And then by the end, when he's telling the story of the DUI and everything surrounding it, all of it is obfuscation, deflection, defensiveness, and the behaviors that you tend to see from people who have a problem who don't want to recognize that they have a problem.
Alex screaming, I'm not the problem, is kind of a dead ringer for that.
The only positive is that we bring up the hot tub again.
Every single one of these stories involves...
jordan holmes
Always got a hot tub.
dan friesen
Every time there's trouble...
jordan holmes
Man likes a hot tub.
dan friesen
I believe that I said a year ago on this show that Alex needs to stay the fuck away from hot tubs.
I've never heard them...
jordan holmes
There are a lot of problems.
dan friesen
I've never heard them factor into a story of his...
That is a good story.
jordan holmes
I had a great night in the hot tub.
Never said that.
Never heard that.
dan friesen
Never said that.
jordan holmes
This episode was basically...
It was like watching an episode of Intervention.
But it was reversed, where it's just a bunch of addicts listing off grievances and yelling them at the person trying to get them help in the center.
Like, it's bad.
dan friesen
It's like an episode of Intervention that doesn't have an end.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you may have the resources to not have any real consequences.
I mean, like, honestly...
I don't know.
I can't pretend to understand what is going on in his personal life.
But, I mean, if his wife is calling the police regarding a fight that they had, there is a chance that he might be heading for a second divorce.
That could be a huge problem in his life.
But beyond that, and that's just speculating.
I have no fucking idea about that.
But beyond that, the real world consequences of this, I mean...
Barring the possibility that he has some secret DUIs in the past that we don't know about, that would make this an actual escalated to a felony or something, he's not going to have any consequences other than a fine, some minor inconvenience in his life.
jordan holmes
And if he gets a better lawyer, he could probably get out of half of that, too.
dan friesen
Even if there is a possibility that he would get his license taken away, which I don't think is the case.
He can afford to have his audience pay for his Lyfts and Ubers or a chauffeur.
jordan holmes
I'm taking the tank every day now!
dan friesen
It's unfortunate because this is...
It should be a situation where he recognizes like...
There's a larger thing going on in the world and in his own life.
It should be some sort of a wake-up call, but it's probably not going to be.
There's no real consequence here other than the possible embarrassment in the eyes of his audience, and he can inoculate himself from that pretty easily through his own show.
jordan holmes
If you're rich, rock bottom is a long, long, long, long, long way down, and a DUI doesn't even come close.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like it.
jordan holmes
No, like what Jim Irsay.
If you own the cults, you can fucking kill people.
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, anyway, we get to the end of this.
And, I mean, obviously, I think that my intention for this episode was to sort of demonstrate the continuation of the nonsensical, incoherent nature of the coronavirus narratives.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And we got, well, I mean, almost hit by a drunk driver, basically.
And the show got...
We got T-boned by Alex's Tuesday show, and it turned into what it is.
And I guess...
I mean, I know that people are really tired.
jordan holmes
Is there an award for Great Line Sex?
Is there...
Is that one...
Podcast over.
dan friesen
I know the audience is incredibly tired of me expressing this, but it is still my firm conviction that Alex needs help, and I hope that he gets it.
As much as I hate him, and as much as I think that he is a toxic, cancerous thing in the world, he's clearly expressing a life that is full of chaos and hurt, and that can be helped.
Yeah.
So that's the sort of feeling I have.
And I don't know.
I don't even know.
jordan holmes
Man.
I really want to just reiterate real quick.
Fuck Mike Adams.
That guy's a dick.
dan friesen
Except for that one shining moment where he told Alex to change the headline.
jordan holmes
That's right.
That's true.
dan friesen
That is a nice job there.
jordan holmes
That was the one redeeming quality that'll get him into heaven.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, also, I realize that I think I forgot to play that clip.
Of Alex's second explanation for why he shaved his head.
jordan holmes
Oh, I didn't hear the second explanation.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was because he's jealous of Owen's hair.
Anyway, Owen's hair is too good.
Why should I have hair?
He's Superman.
I'll be Lex Luthor.
So anyway, that was the second explanation.
jordan holmes
He's the bad guy again.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, we will be back for another episode in the near future.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
That's correct.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
If you'd like to download the show, please go to iTunes or wherever podcast you use.
Rate, leave a review, donate, the whole thing.
It'll be great.
dan friesen
We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I'm Alex Jones' Jailhouse Snitch.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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