Knowledge Fight’s #406 episode dissects Alex Jones’ March 2020 coronavirus panic—from CPAC infiltration claims to wild death toll predictions (3M+), man-made virus theories, and absurd "lieutenant colonels" citing debunked aerosol risks. Jones pivots between economic collapse, globalist plots, and martial law under Trump while exploiting Tommy Robinson’s arrest for anti-Muslim propaganda, ignoring medical experts like Sharon Lewis. His shifting narratives—from fake hoax to deadly bioweapon—reveal a pattern of fearmongering to push white Christian male fascism, with hosts mocking his lack of evidence, reliance on fringe figures (Stewart Rhodes, Mike Adams), and superficial headline cherry-picking. [Automatically generated summary]
So today, Jordan, we got an interesting episode to go over.
We're covering the span of March 1st to 4th, 2020.
I'm Dan.
This is 2020.
And it's going to be part one of two, kind of.
Our Wednesday episode will cover Thursday and Friday of last week.
This is Sunday through Wednesday.
All right.
And we will cover the end of the week.
And I'll explain why there's a dichotomy.
But before I get to that, before I get to that explanation, we're going to take a moment to say thank you to the folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
We were talking about how I wanted an emotional support pelican based on Alex's contention that there are emotional support pelicans on airplanes because liberals are crazy.
And I was thinking that yesterday afternoon, when I was looking up at Leap Year Day, February 29th, and I sat back and I went, beware the Ides of March.
I think Alex wants you to think he's psychic and he's in touch with some larger thing in the universe because he thought about the Ides of March and then the next morning he sees something reasonably close to that on SNL.
So he must be reading the Zeitgeist.
I have a suspicion that Alex did watch SNL because he's really mirroring things really closely.
Mulaney's whole joke is that leap years started under Caesar.
And another thing they did back then was all the senators stabbed Caesar because he was power mad.
The tag to that joke is him saying that he called his lawyer to see if he could say that joke and his lawyer called another lawyer who said it was cool.
However you slice it, Alex's interpretation of things is really unfair.
To characterize Mulaney's bit as a threat that they're coming after Trump, Caesar style, is just ridiculous.
I'm not sure if that joke is great.
And I bet it probably could be improved with a couple more rounds of edits, but it's clearly a joke.
Like if Nick DiPaolo got on stage at SNL and started talking about how all the black people in the country need to go and started throwing around slurs, Alex would get on air the next day to defend that as free speech.
Whether the virus is deadly or not, we know it's deadly, but super deadly, you can leave up to debate.
But the response and the hysteria and the way the media unified and the way all these governments around the world unified, except the United States, we did it first.
And I was dead on.
I'm sorry.
It's just true.
Scary, actually.
That's why they want us off air.
Saying, Mr. President, I'm not sure what's going on, but this is over a month ago, but you're endorsing Xi Jinping and this crackdown.
This is what we call a narrative pivot, trying to be engaged in in real time.
Because up to this point, he's had tons of interviews with like Francis Boyle and Mike Adams on almost every show Mike Adams has been on, talking about definitive proof that this virus is a bioweapon.
It's probably race specific.
The Chinese either intentionally used it on themselves or they accidentally released it while planning to use it on us.
It's been a gigantic fear orgy surrounding the idea that there are tens of thousands more dead than China has said and how it's already loose in the United States and coming for you.
Like it's been that's been largely the the editorial line.
And so conservatives who know Trump's under attack go, well, I don't believe CNN.
I don't believe MSNBC.
It must be a hoax.
So they start asking us, hey, what are you doing attacking the president?
Because you're saying it's serious.
Yes, I'm saying it's serious because of how the whole media is unified, how they use it for martial law in Italy and China and now all over the world, Switzerland and all over.
And then what Alex is describing there, too, about the idea that CNN is writing articles about how Trump's response has been flawed or there have been things that could have been done that weren't done.
Right.
You know, experts saying, woo, what the hell?
Right.
You know, those articles.
And then dum-dums who think that every article that's negative about Trump is an attack on him.
But if they then release a virus they bought from Obama that they know is not super lethal but does kill some people and spreads fast, it'll scare the hell out of folks.
They could push a vaccine later and make money off that as well.
And then Out of that, they can shut down their factories and order the city shut down, order no one to go to work in all their major industrial sites, and then that kills the global supply chain.
They've just checkmated Trump and America, and you know that's what they did.
They did it with the deep state, with the UN, coordinated with the EU, who were all on board to create the hysteria and fear, bring down the economy worldwide, and then say President Trump and America and people that questioned when it's obviously overblown.
This entire conspiracy he's selling sounds great and all.
The idea that China needs this virus in order to cover for just shutting down their economy and whatever.
There's some really basic problems that he has considering his years-long established rhetoric.
So, as Alex is selling it, China wants to shut down its economy in order to disrupt a supply chain which would then embarrass Trump and give the nationalists a black eye or whatever.
That's really where Alex gets into trouble, seeing as every single time he talks about China, he mentions forced abortions and suicide nets in factories.
Every single characterization of China is not one that really cares too much if the workers are pissed off, in Alex's conception.
The China that exists in the Infowars universe is not a government that would need a virus to use as some kind of subterfuge to get away with doing something the workers don't like.
And the fact that there's no reason for China to do this thing to achieve the goal Alex is claiming they're seeking.
Their motive doesn't make sense, especially given the fact that if the goal is hurting Trump on an economic basis, there's plenty of other moves China could make that would hurt them a bit, but hurt Trump way more politically.
Another problem is that China has been consistently closing down manufacturing plants for years now.
In 2018, Reuters reported on a thousand manufacturing plants being scheduled to be shuttered by 2020 in Beijing alone, quote, as part of a program aimed at curbing smog and boosting income in neighboring regions.
There's even precedent for China shutting down industry temporarily to deal with an acute problem, which is basically the situation we find ourselves in with the coronavirus.
Back in October 2017, NPR reported on how China's Ministry of Environment had sent out inspectors across the country to determine if factories are following environmental laws.
It was estimated that a full 40% of China's factories were shut down temporarily in an attempt to address the horrible damage being done by filthy manufacturing.
That's tens of thousands of factories.
This had the predicted effect of disrupting the supply chain, with some companies shifting some manufacturing to India and Bangladesh, and others just not being able to produce at full capacity.
Once the work of the Ministry of Environment had been done, things began to get back to normal.
And Alex and most of the people in the world probably don't even remember that this happened, that China shut down almost half of its factories less than three years ago.
On February 27th, CNBC reported that the National Retail Federation CEO was announcing that, quote, some of the coronavirus-driven supply chain disruption in China is subsiding.
The CEO went on to add, quote, a number of the larger companies have started to indicate that the signs they're getting from the Chinese market is some of the production is coming back online.
Time reported on March 6th that Starbucks is announcing that after taking a huge hit and having to close most of its stores in China, things are returning to normal.
The vast majority of their shops have reopened, and quote, early signs of recovery are emerging as the coffee giant is seeing sequential improvements in weekly sales.
On March 7th, Reuters reported on nine IKEA locations reopening in China.
The South China Morning Post reported on March 4th that, quote, over 90% of firms in the Guangdong province have resumed operations.
There's still very serious issues to deal with in terms of smaller and medium-sized businesses returning to operation, but a lot of the reason that that's been slow to come back is because of transportation-related issues.
As the Financial Times reported, one of the main issues is that a lot of workers are from rural areas and they're stranded there with no easy way to commute back to areas like Beijing and get back to work.
This gets into a complicated dynamic where full rail service is not back online throughout the country.
And also, rural authorities and smaller villages are reluctant to raise their full crackdown on people entering or leaving the village.
These local authorities are worried that they'll be held responsible if there are raised infections.
So they're not acting without the explicit direction of the central government, according to an article in the Financial Times citing a scholar from Wuhan.
The point is that we're not looking at a complete and perpetual shutdown of China's economy.
There are decent signs that things are starting to return to a more normal posture.
And just to be perfectly clear, I'm not trying to pretend that there won't be ripple effects or there won't be difficulties.
So there could be, you know, something else that is a wrench in the gears.
But based on the information that's available now, it's not to say that China is out of the woods, not to say everything is resolved, but there are indications that there is some resuming coming back to normal, which is something that Alex would never want you to know.
You can find a lot of business folk who are seeing what's going on, and their response is to suggest that we need to diversify our supply chain to limit the impact that something happening in China has on the larger economy.
You would think that this would be the number one most obvious and predictable response that business would have to a large-scale market disruption.
So if China were trying to do this whole stunt to embarrass Trump, they would have to be doing it knowing fully well that the odds are that business will flee the country in the aftermath.
That seems dumb.
And honestly, my larger point is that Alex's conspiracy really makes no sense unless you're working backwards.
You need to make a way to make this look like an attack on Trump.
And you just kind of write the rest as you see fit.
Fill in the gaps.
That's all the only way that this makes any kind of sense.
So I'm not going to sit here while anybody misdirects or distracts from what we said that, oh, Jones says the virus is super deadly, but Limbaugh says it's no problem.
And so when the stock market starts tanking, which it has, it's our fault for saying, hey, get ready.
We said get ready because it is man-made in the lab.
Obama transferred it to China on record.
Mainstream news 2015 was a big debate about it.
It's now been released, and the media doesn't want to debate about how it's man-made and who released it and who stands to gain from it.
Who has the means?
Who bought it?
Who wants to win the trade war?
Who's pissed?
Who can shut their people down and treat them like slaves and prop up their stock markets?
I think that Alex has realized that he's completely out of step with the right-wing media and Trump.
And not only that, kind of out of step with the new information that's coming out about the virus.
So now he's pretending, you know, I wasn't mostly talking about this being super deadly, which is a really weird thing to claim because I listened to his show.
And because of that, I can play you this supercut of times that he and his friends said it was super deadly.
I treated a patient a month ago was really the first case of a coronavirus before it was ever reported of a gentleman who met with a Chinese individual and got the pneumonia and was treated with high doses of antibiotics.
Come on, you have to know this individual very well, because that individual happens to be me.
I'm not saying any of this to pump up any claims like I have elevated wisdom or anything, but I knew a pivot was coming.
That's part of why I keep playing that drop of Mike Adams saying that it's over for humanity, because I know from watching Infowars for as long as I have that they would eventually change the entire story to something else and pretend they didn't play this game hard because it was working to sell food buckets.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend that Alex didn't occasionally mention the trade war as background motivation for China having false flagged itself, but the economic stuff was absolutely not front and center in these conspiracies.
The primary driver of a lot of his coverage was surrounding how deadly this virus was and how it wasn't a hoax like he decided Zika and SARS and Ebola were.
All the stuff Alex said in that clip isn't true.
It's not true that he didn't focus strongly on how deadly the virus was.
It's not true that Obama sold the virus to China.
It's not true that there's proof that the virus is man-made.
Those are all just the salvageable narrative pieces he built while he was trying to support his argument that millions were going to die and you need to buy a silver goggle and food buckets if you want to survive.
Much like viruses themselves, propaganda narratives mutate in order to accommodate the propagandists' needs.
We saw this in our breakdown of the Boston bombing coverage, how Alex was constantly shifting things around based on where he wanted it to go.
He's doing that now.
And I kind of suspect that there's two reasons why.
The first is that if he keeps going with this death panic, he would put himself squarely at odds with Trump.
If you're screaming about how the virus is going to kill everyone and your hero president is calling it, you know, hey, no big deal.
We're all super prepared.
Everything's good.
It's hard to maintain positive coverage of that guy.
The second is that Jim Baker fucked up Alex's silver gargle sales plan, which was really the main monetary reason for Alex to spread the medical side of the panic.
Baker tried to sell his silver the same way Alex did by lying about it being proven to cure coronavirus.
And in response, the New York Attorney General sent him a cease and desist letter.
Baker went too public with the scam, and now there's a very explicit order from a state attorney general threatening to take action on someone selling his shit that way.
Alex obviously knows that and probably doesn't want to pay millions in fees.
The food bucket sales are compatible with a generalized financial panic, however.
So it makes some sense that he would be able to play, you know, place his narratives there and he could land.
Yeah, if Ted Anderson hadn't had the state of Minnesota strip him of his gold sales license and Bob Chapman weren't dead, you could guarantee that this would be a long-prophesied summer of rage.
Yeah, I think he's also probably feeling that certain betrayal of like, man, I've been out on the front here trying to do this and I turn and look behind me and all of you guys are in the opposite direction.
Motherfuckers, I have been trying.
I have been fighting for you and I'm not getting the lines anymore.
So I know it probably seems petty of me to keep playing these clips where Alex doesn't know Bolsonaro's name, but I wouldn't do it if there wasn't a bigger reason to.
It's been months and months that Alex has been boosting Bolsonaro, but for the first stretch, he was just calling him Brazil's Trump.
Then at a certain point, he started mispronouncing it pretty wildly.
At no point has anyone at Infowars corrected him.
At no point has he realized he was fucking that up.
It just seems like he may not have a good grasp on the subject he's covering.
And to make matters worse, Alex interviewed Bolsonaro's son at CPAC mere days before this episode that we're listening to here.
It may, you know, if you listen to that interview, if you watch it, it seems like Alex is aware that he doesn't know this guy's dad's name.
The thing which I kept thinking about here is that clearly this is a potentially huge problem to Donald Trump.
At the same time, though, do Democrats actually be careful in how they use this sort of health emergency to attack the president?
Well, I think they're actually in pretty solid footing to go after the president on this, mostly because there aren't heads at the CDC and the National Institutes of Health.
He's cut funding there.
I really think that his lack of response, Donald Trump's lack of response to getting in front of this looks very similar to what actually happened in China, where you act like it's not a problem and then you respond quite late and then maybe you put Vice President Pence in charge who's not a medical doctor.
That's a very measured conversation about whether or not it's a good idea to point the finger at Trump for the way his administration has handled a public health situation.
Obviously, there's a ton of issues surrounding Trump's response, many of them pretty well laid out by that anchor, but I'm not really going to get into that water right now.
I'm not really well-versed enough to be able to really assess a lot of that stuff while the situation is ongoing.
And there are a lot of other sources people can get information from.
I will address the sorts of things that if Alex makes a specific claim about something, I don't mind getting into it.
But I don't want to risk making it seem like my discussion of this virus situation comes from a desire to score points against Trump.
So I'm going to err on the side of not dwelling on that too much.
On some level, I'm convinced that Alex made the prediction that the globalist media would attack him for not doing well because he knew that Trump would bungle the response to the virus.
And inevitably, the media would cover that.
There would be stories about the CDC funding.
There would be voices of concern about putting Pence in charge.
There would be a lot of questions being asked about why certain things weren't done sooner.
In order to inoculate the audience from hearing those questions as reporting and reality, Alex has established in advance that this sort of coverage is actually proof that the whole thing is a globalist plot to begin with.
And the coverage is actually the payoff of that plan.
They released the virus to sink the stock market to attack Trump, and now they get to attack him for not responding well.
The thing that's kind of hilarious about Alex's underlying argument is that even his narrative includes an admission that Trump didn't handle the virus situation well.
Even he's not trying to deny that.
He's just loudly yelling and pointing somewhere else so his listeners don't realize it.
And saying, like, oh, he only didn't respond well because the CDC told him not to.
I find the reality fascinating that as long as Trump is doing an awful job, the media will criticize him for it, which then makes the a white agreement conservative narrative function.
It's always an attack on Trump.
So he can either do a really terrible job and the media calls him a shit president for it, or he can do a good job and get praise for it.
But if he gets praised by the media, then that agreement narrative doesn't really work.
No.
So it's almost like the conservative propaganda machine is relying on Trump to be a shitty president in order to continue their narrative.
One of Alex's long-standing things is talking about how he would tell people in the media that if they wanted to destroy Rand Paul or Ron Paul, what they need to do is endorse him.
So throughout this, it's been pretty clear that on this episode, at least, Alex is putting forth the idea that this is all about this supply chain disruption.
And as soon as I saw China lock down whole cities, knowing it would devastate their economy, I said if it was real, they'd cover it up.
You could see the fakeness.
Not that people being wheeled into hospitals were fake, but the way they did it and the cameras and all of it was they were exacerbating it and the order had gone out is create global hysteria.
So that's a really interesting angle Alex is taking on this.
He's saying that immediately when he saw China lock down cities, he knew it was a fake event and that the globalist order had gone out to try to create hysteria.
Please remember that China put Wuhan under lockdown on January 23rd.
And for some context, Alex had Mike Adams as a guest to announce that it was over for humanity on, ooh, let me check my notes here, January 24th.
So I guess Alex's good buddy, Mike Adams, is just spouting globalist lines.
He must be getting the globalist talking points that it was time to cause hysteria.
And good for Alex facilitating that.
And then having Mike on his show every day and letting him guest host when he went to CPAC.
It's tiresome at this point for me to stress that all Alex has been doing is playing into hysteria since late January at least.
We don't need to beleager at that point, but there's another big lie here.
And that is Alex claiming that he immediately knew this was all a charade.
Since if it was real, they would cover it up.
China would cover it up.
This is not true.
In the early stages of Alex's coverage, he was pitching a whole lot of theories.
Like when he was saying it's possible that Trump had released a bioweapon on China as payback for fentanyl or the entire it was stolen from a lab in Winnipeg narrative that he would later call disinformation.
He was all over the place.
But his initial reaction was actually that this was a real thing, unlike the outbreaks like Zika, SARS, and Ebola, which were all fake.
In his January 24th interview with Mike Adams, this idea was laid out pretty explicitly and is something Alex signed off on and mirrored in his later coverage.
I'm not even concerned or scared now because this is so real.
You know how a fight works?
You go out there, the bully's waiting for you.
You don't want to get in a fight.
You're kind of, but you're not going to back down.
And as soon as he takes a swing or even connects, you're like, you know what?
Let's turn it on and beat your ass to the ground.
You go a little too far and kick the brains out.
But that's what you asked for.
So I now metaphysically have entered the point of no fear or no concern anymore.
That tells me we're in war mode, ladies and gentlemen.
My spirit has gone into not giving a damn.
And that tells me my spiritual radar says this is the big move.
So we better start debating what the president should do.
We should stop speculating.
We know it's man-made bioweapon transferred to Obama to China, waiting to be released in the future if need be, as a martial law takeover of China to reset the global economy, create a global crisis.
We have a global solution to then attack Western open governments that the left pushed for, claiming openness is a problem.
Now we're going to have closed societies, but run by the UN.
And that's bad because the globalists will say that he's covering it up or something.
Sure, sure, sure.
I don't really know how to set up this clip because it's convoluted a little bit in the beginning.
But towards the end, Alex says something deeply fucked up.
And so I would like you to put your mic down for this to try and understand the clip, but then also so you don't talk over accidentally Alex saying something he should never say.
My frustration to repeat this every segment is that summer, and I get they're going to attack me regardless of what I say, but I want to get this straight.
Any angle you look at this virus, any angle you look at, when you watch China lock down almost a billion people, you know that's going to kill the global economy.
That right there is just so seismic and just, you know, Godzilla's in a movie tearing up Tokyo.
This is Godzilla all over the planet.
And I get Trump is in a Godzilla fight here, and he just wants to play it down.
And I understand that, but see, that's the trap.
When he plays it down, the media is going to say he covered it up.
Their only fear is he plays it up and uses it for control, like Ziji Ping has done.
And that's why Bill Mars said, I think Trump will try to declare martial law with this, because that's what they want to do when Trump doesn't act.
And they're afraid Trump may grab it from them at the last minute.
And by the way, I don't want martial law with all the bureaucrats that are under Trump, even though he didn't try to put bureaucrats in.
I don't want to turn them all into little demigods.
I'm just saying this is the world we've entered.
So do you want Nancy Pelosi and the ChiComs to have martial law?
I think that Rob Dew is the best corporate representative this country has ever seen in a deposition.
That's just like he's Mr. Anti-martial law guy.
And he's saying, oh, look, because of this crisis that he believes is a globalist manufactured crisis, we either need to have Trump martial law or Pelosi martial law.
Well, there's a second trap that they can initiate in all this.
The first trap was to allow the virus to spread deliberately and then blame Trump.
That has been sprung, and the narrative has already been launched.
The second trap is even bigger.
They know that there are going to be quarantines of communities and perhaps cities across America.
And those quarantines will most likely be liberal cities where you have the most filth, the most homelessness, and so on, and the highest population density.
It will be the Democrats.
I would go with the last one being the Democrats calling for suspending the elections in November because not enough Democrats will be able to participate because they will be under quarantine.
If Trump suspends the elections, then the Democrats, or if Trump is able to, I mean, he might have to have a lot of other people going along with it, perhaps the Supreme Court, perhaps the Senate, who knows?
But if he's able to achieve that, then the Democrats will say, oh my gosh, he's a dictator now.
He's just declared himself a dictator, and they will use that to launch the big violent revolution that they've been talking about for years.
And here is when we learn why Mike is a health ranger, not a political science ranger.
If you follow his theory, the real trap with the coronavirus is about making Democratic areas unable to vote, which will prompt the Democrats to call for suspending the elections.
If Trump goes along with it, he'll be called the dictator and all the violent leftists will take to the street and enact their violent revolution.
This is a dumb theory for one major reason, and that is absentee ballots.
In 33 of the states in the country, any registered voter can request a mail-in ballot without even giving a reason for their need for an absentee ballot.
The other 17 states allow voters who meet certain qualifications to vote remotely, which I would assume coronavirus.
Five states automatically send out ballots to everyone.
But if they prefer, they can still go vote in person.
On the occasion that the coronavirus situation does escalate in the United States, there's literally no reason why we shouldn't have the infrastructure that would be needed to still carry out the election.
It would just require some slight tweaks and some coherent messaging about how to participate in absentee voting.
For this reason, even if Democratic areas are hit harder by an outbreak, you would probably never hear Democrats calling for a suspension of the election.
They would call for sending out absentee ballots.
And given the fact that we're not even through the primaries yet, there's every reason to believe that there is enough time to get that done, should they have the political will.
And like I said, the coherent messaging would really be the most important piece.
This sort of conversation Mike is having serves the purpose of preemptively making it the Democrats' fault if Trump does decide to suspend the election.
So, like I said, and I mean to stress this because it is very key to understanding how things are going.
Yeah.
This thing that I'm trying to stress is that a lot of the talking points, a lot of the things that are brought up are intrinsically about the supply chain disruption.
That is the primary narrative surrounding the coronavirus on this March 1st show.
And that's why Alex will bring up things like this.
So this is a minor point, but I wanted to call attention to it to demonstrate how little care Alex has about presenting information accurately.
He's just grasping at straws to pull out some headlines he read a while back in order to reinforce Mike Adams, who is making points about the disruption of the global economy the virus is causing.
Alex says that there was a story in Reuters about the virus causing the German auto industry to drop 50%.
In reality, this story is about how the virus might cut in half German automobile sales, specifically in China during the month of February.
The German automobile industry is already in tough shape.
They've been hit hard by emissions standards, people transitioning to electric cars, and as Dutch Well points out, quote, higher tariffs caused by U.S.-China trade tensions.
In case you're forgetting, those are Trump's tariffs.
The conversation that Mike and Alex are having is about the disruption of supply chains, where companies are losing profits because they can't get the parts they need to make their product.
The German car situation is a completely different thing.
It's all about decreased sales in the Asian market.
BMW, Daimler, and Volkswagen don't even have any factories in the affected areas of China.
This is demand disruption, not supply.
But Alex and Mike don't care about that distinction.
Also, Alex is just spouting off shit about German auto companies dropping 50% when it's a much more precise statistic than that.
He doesn't care because it helps serve the narrative that's being pushed.
In the past couple weeks, in the past month or so, these sorts of conversations would always be accompanied by a plug for the wound gel and the gargle.
I suppose there will be no enforcement of any quarantine of a liberal city in America because the people that you would try to isolate will not comply.
Not at all.
They will go sovereign citizens.
I mean, they're insane on a normal day in many cases.
I have no idea if people on the left would be more or less likely than your average person to go along with a quarantine.
However, Mike is fucking high if he thinks his militia patriot buddies, the don't tread on me types, are any more likely to accept a government-mandated quarantine.
These are people who threaten insurrection over military training exercises and land grazing fees.
Do you think for one second that these same people who had an armed standoff at the Malhoor Wildlife Preserve would have the government tell them to stay indoors or whatever?
And they'd be like, you got it.
It's farcical.
Alex has said that like half the police in the country would be killed if background checks for gun purchases were expanded.
How do you think the sovereign citizens would react?
They don't think that they need driver's licenses and they view courts as invalid.
They legitimately don't think the state has any authority.
So they're sure as shit not going to acquiesce to a quarantine.
It's all really stupid.
But you can hear in Alex's voice that he's rushing to the end of the show.
He wants to scare the audience about the left before he wraps up, which is weird.
I don't know why that's the note he wants to leave on.
Who said the Pentagon believes with the numbers they have that they could have up to 3 million dead people in the next six months here in the United States from the coronavirus?
Now, I learned this a couple days ago.
And then there was a retired lieutenant colonel in my house this morning.
And I had to go on a totally separate issue.
And my wife's in there drinking coffee with him.
He just retired like a year ago.
And he goes, yeah, the word.
And he was with Army Special Operations, just so happens.
And he says, yeah, the word is from the numbers is they're looking at 3 million dead.
So here we see the 2% number being established, which Alex and Mike Adams will later use to estimate their 3 million dead number.
More interestingly, Rush says that this virus might have been created in a Chinese lab.
And in order to strengthen that, Alex says that there were secret meetings in Congress and Rush knows about them.
This has the effect of implying that what Rush is saying is actually secret high-level information as opposed to just Rush Limbaugh doing what he always does.
Talk shit.
Over the course of the show, this insinuation strengthens.
By the next time Alex brings up Rush's comments, he's now very, very strongly implying that Rush saying the virus might have been made in a lab in China or him reporting on things Trump and Pence told him.
And now, let's jump ahead to the next time Rush comes up on this Sunday show.
Alex is talking about how he's been saying that coronavirus is man-made for a long time, and you would think he would just brag about how Rush is picking up on that now.
But Alex doesn't.
Alex is actively conflating Rush making a stupid comment on his dumb-dumb radio show with information that's coming from the Senate.
Alex has absolutely no information about any real or imagined Senate intelligence hearing.
He's making that up because he believes, for absolutely no reason, that Rush was reporting on Senate intelligence hearing materials and stuff that comes from Trump when he was just talking shit.
This is one of the more clear-cut cases I've seen of Alex just blatantly laundering a source.
But it's not fully laundered yet.
Alex is still mentioning Rush when he's making this claim in that last clip.
This is technically still just embellishing Rush's shit talk.
However, you don't have to look too far to find this claim fully, completely laundered into something that is now a complete lie.
Within the span of his two-hour show, Alex took a stray piece of bullshit that Rush Limbaugh said on his show and gradually escalated it into being super high-level inside information that Rush is reporting.
Once Alex elevated that shit talk to that level, he doesn't need Rush getting in the way anymore.
If Rush is getting this from high-level Pentagon sources, read Trump as the commander-in-chief, and the Senate intelligence people, then Alex can just cut out the middleman and report on the information that Rush must be reporting on.
You can see these fingerprints in the way Alex uses information if you pay attention.
And honestly, the scariest part for me is I don't even think that's a conscious process.
I think Alex just started talking about Rush's comments and instinctually wanted to reinforce the parts of it that are most in line with his own narratives, namely that the virus is man-made.
So he started tying Rush to Trump and secret Senate hearings.
And as he's going, I have a feeling that he just lost track of where the starting point was.
There is no secret information.
There's no Pentagon confirmation.
There's nothing except a blowhard right-wing hack that Alex used to hate talking shit.
And to loop back around to Monday's episode, Alex's 3 million estimate matches up mysteriously well with Mike Adams' estimate that he was taking from Rush.
I don't believe that Alex has any of these sources.
I think this is all him working off branching paths that all trace back to a 30-second clip from Rush Limbaugh.
Yeah, I would accept that this is just a snowball situation where he's even like even if he was taking it directly from Rush, he's just automatically going to say that there's a lieutenant colonel involved.
There's just always a lieutenant colonel involved.
I think it's very clear to me looking at this, looking at these little fingerprints, looking at like, why didn't you bring up any of these, the first lieutenant colonel when you were talking to Mike?
Because that's a true story I just told you about two, one retired, one currently serving in a specific sensitive area of the military, not told to tell me this, just telling me this.
And that's like God saying, you need to talk about that.
So we get to this next clip, and I honestly think that this is one of the points where I'm as close to like, all right, Alex, fair point, as we're going to get.
So the part that I said, like introducing the clip, I said it's close to being like, ah, fair point to Alex.
And that's because there are a bunch of people who took this comment that Trump made and said that he was saying the virus itself was a hoax.
And I think those people are doing a terrible job.
Like Joe Biden said, quote, the president of the United States says it's a hoax.
It's hard to believe.
Even for him, it's hard to believe.
Bloomberg said, quote, I find it incomprehensible that the president would do something as inane as calling it a hoax.
The Virginia governor, Terry McAuliffe, said that Trump, quote, said the coronavirus was a hoax.
Politico's headline reads, quote, Trump rallies his base to view coronavirus as a hoax, which is really on the cusp of being off base.
The article makes it clear that some of the context is there and how unclear Trump was being, but these are unforced errors that people should not be making.
It's super appealing and fun to jump on everything Trump says and dunk around, but if you act like this, it just creates ammunition for people like Alex to further insulate their side from any kind of outside information.
And for people who are running for president on the Democratic side to not be more precise with their language, I'm not saying it's the worst thing in the world.
But because Alex has these things that he can point to as like examples that are like, well, yeah, I mean, a bunch of people did get that nuance wrong.
He could use that to make other criticisms about the media that are absurd.
The media has not split it into a thing where you either believe that it is a hoax or you think it's the end of the world.
Alex is just making that up because it works into his dump-dumb universal worldview where the globalists try and create two opposing sides and control both.
The dialectic that Alex mysteriously sees everything in.
It's interesting because I don't know if I've heard Democrats in office or major political commentators hoping for the economy to fail because it would hurt Trump.
Alex played that CNN clip on Sunday, but that was just an analysis of how Democratic candidates can use Trump's response to the virus to their political advantage.
He wasn't cheering for the economy to fail or anything.
If you just heard Alex's show on Monday, you'd hear him say that Democrats have admitted they want the economy to collapse because it'll take down Trump.
And you'd assume he's talking about some pretty major figures, maybe something he played previously that you just missed.
Sure.
Because I listened to his show way more than anyone should.
I can tell you exactly who the Democrats are that Alex is referring to.
Or because they're all as lame as that CNN one yet he does play.
The Bill Maher clip is definitely Maher saying he wants a recession because it'll get rid of Trump.
And fine, fair play to Alex for not liking that.
Yeah.
It's probably dishonest to call Maher a Democrat, though, since he's described himself as a libertarian in the past, and he voted for Bob Dole in 1996 and Nader in 2000.
Also, Bill Maher.
Also, Bill Maher sucks and is constantly critiqued from the left for very valid reasons, like as horrible Islamophobia and transphobia.
It is funny to like that's how internal consistency makes you immune to certain attacks because they're like, You criticize somebody and they're like, oh, well, what about Bill Maher?
I've noticed a bit of a trend on Alex's show, and that's that he'll often claim that the whole liberal media is saying something outrageous.
And then the only evidence he'll end up presenting is a clip of Bill Maher talking shit.
Alex will use Bill Maher to be the avatar of the entirety of the media he's up against.
I think the reason is because Alex's show would look fucking stupid if he was just screaming bloody murder about what Bill Maher said on HBO.
Yeah, it makes Alex look like he's actually doing something if he pretends that Bill Maher really speaks for all of the Democrats and all the globalists.
And that's exactly why you see him expressing at the end of that clip what he does.
Bill Maher is the ventriloquist doll for the globalists.
And thus, whenever Bill Maher says anything, Alex is free to claim that the globalists and Democrats are actually the ones saying it.
Bill Maher may as well be the official corporate spokesman for globalist LLC, according to Alex.
This is the same behavior we saw earlier with Alex laundering sources.
It would be totally fine for him to just yell his thick neck off about something Bill Maher said and about how it made him angry.
It would be a sad show, but it would be totally fine.
Where he becomes fundamentally dishonest is when he takes the things that Bill Maher himself has said and then applies them to some other nebulous entity and responds to the comments as if that other entity, like the Democrats or the globalists, had actually said it.
By assuming that Bill Maher speaks for the globalists and then just taking Bill Maher out of the equation and saying the globalists say this thing that Bill Maher said, you're being a dick.
Ultimately, Alex has multiple high-level sources who predict 3 million dead from the coronavirus and the Pentagon said it was man-made.
But in reality, he just heard a little bit of Rush's show the other day.
The Democrats have said they want the country's economy to collapse in order to hurt Trump, but in reality, Alex is just mad at Bill Maher.
His show is very stupid when you pay attention and you're able to trace these things to where their actual provenance is.
How the more details Alex gives about this mysterious lieutenant colonel who told him the prediction is 3 million dead from the coronavirus, the more he talks about it, the more it's exactly the same shit that Mike Adams was saying on his show the day before.
And it seems so weird.
So fucking strange, that coincidence.
I was certain that this was just Alex laundering Mike Adams' shit through a fake anonymous source when he said the 3 million thing.
But now with the projection that half the population is going to be infected, which is exactly what Mike said, this is comical levels of transparent.
There are two types of lie at play here.
There are subconscious lies that Alex doesn't even really realize he's engaging in, which is the escalation of the rush clip turning into some kind of secret Pentagon information.
Then there's this, which is an obvious intentional lie.
I suspect the motive is the same as for the Bill Maher thing.
Alex knows that him saying Mike Adams predicted 3 million deaths isn't going to move the needle too much.
Mike declared humanity over like a month ago.
3 million deaths is not an escalation of that rhetoric at all.
But if Alex presents this as information coming from a mysterious unknown figure who's in the know, he can give it a credibility that he even he knows Mike Adams doesn't have, mostly because he declared humanity over a month ago and because of that Ebola cure thing and pretty much the rest of Mike Adams' career.
Which was banned by the EU because their activity was deemed to be, quote, based on racial conflict between the Hungarian majority and the Roma minority.
I think, at least in terms of the present day, Sebastian Gorka is far more notable as a Hungarian than as a Brit, even though he does have citizenship in both countries.
See, ever since Trump came around with low-energy jeb and little Marco, Alex has been trying to make playground insults stick to his enemies, and he's just not very good at it.
I suspect this is just one of those weird attempts.
So Alex goes on and he jumps into another topic, and that is he spends a good bit of time on this March 2nd episode talking about Turkish President Erdogan announcing that he would allow refugees and migrants to cross the border from Turkey into Europe.
I would cover this, but this situation is immensely complicated, and I do not trust myself to handle it well.
I wanted to mention it, though, just because it's a huge international situation, and it's something that should be paid attention to, but we're not going to talk about it too much.
Mostly because Alex's only real analysis of it is that Muslims are basically animals, and the people in Greece should be able to shoot them at the border.
It's horrible stuff, and it's very standard Alex fair, just with Erdogan's actions being pretexts for him to hit his normal anti-Islam talking points.
Here's a little clip of Alex and his European reporter, Dan Lyman, just to give you a little bit of a taste of where he's at.
Well, I want to be clear: if someone's trying to burn a building or kill people, people need to use lethal force to stop laying down to this because if they fully break the border, they're going to have Islam totally take over Europe.
People don't know.
You live there.
I mean, most of the cities are now no-go-zone hell pitch.
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Yes, even some of the cities that you would never expect are starting to turn that way.
So, I mean, I recommend if you come to go to the really safe countries, I always say this: go to Poland, go to Hungary.
So, if I understand correctly, Poland and Hungary are the safe countries, as you pointed out, and as we know, Poland is treated as basically the promised land by white nationalists these days.
World Population Review compiles crime rates by countries for the world by simply dividing reported crimes by the total population.
Switzerland, Estonia, Austria, Croatia, Denmark, the Czech Republic, Romania, and the Netherlands all have crime rates that are lower by this measure than Poland or Hungary.
Germany is lower than Hungary, and Alex yells about Germany letting in immigrants all the time.
There's clearly a secondary message being sent by Lyman's country recommendations.
It's just that Poland is the archetype of a white nationalist state to white nationalists.
And Hungary's leader, Viktor Orban, is a very public enemy of George Soros.
So, this section of the fringe right wing have adopted him as kind of a hero.
I wish there was deeper analysis in this here, but it's really kind of just that simple.
Yeah, if I understand what I've read, and again, it's a massively complicated situation, but a large part of it is basically Erdogan threatening government leaders that he'll make your racists mad at you.
Like, that's a certain, to a certain extent, he's like, I'm going to let immigrants into your country, and then your racists are going to be mad at you.
We've talked a bit in the past about how off-base Alex is about the Crusades.
So I don't want to really rehash a lot of that stuff in detail, but I wanted to take a moment to talk about the claim he has there about millions dying in single crusades.
It's not estimated that millions died in individual crusades.
And in fact, there's no real historical consensus for the death toll.
Generally speaking, the accepted range among scholars is somewhere between one and three million for the entire span of the crusades, which I should remind you lasted from 1095 to 1291.
That's 196 years.
And because it's something that happened over such a long period of time, so long ago, and such a wide area, most serious scholars don't even think it's worthwhile to try and nail down precise numbers.
It would just be impossible.
With that being said, there's no way Alex's numbers are even close to accurate, leaving aside the fact that the 3 million figure includes combatants from both sides, not just Alex's beloved Christian Crusaders.
But let's take that high-end estimate of 3 million deaths from the Crusades and let's compare it to other world events and see how it stacks up.
If you look at the list of the most deadly wars in human history, you'll notice that most of them involved China in the long-distant past.
25 million died in the Manchu conquest between 1618 and 1683, which led to the rise of the Qing dynasty.
Deeper in the past, the Three Kingdoms conflict between 182 and 280 left over 37 million dead in China.
Because about 90% of the indigenous population was killed either by conflict or disease, this left, quote, vast tracts of agricultural land being left unattended, which, quote, soaked up enough carbon dioxide from the atmosphere to actually cool the planet, with the average temperature dropping by 0.15 degrees Celsius.
Anyway, my larger point here is not that Europeans are so much worse than Muslims or anything like that.
I don't think that's a productive way to think about things.
My point is that history is full of atrocity.
There's plenty to go around, and it's not good to imagine that people today are exactly the same as people you've decided are their historical analog.
The sins of the past should be recognized, grappled with, the victims respected, and lessons should be learned.
Selective finger pointing about various things that happened like 800 years ago is not a path forward.
The thing that I immediately took away that was like, this is the beginning of your sentence was they had to march three, four thousand miles to protect their borders.
And it's like, that's the thought process that is why we have so many fucked up wars and shit like that.
They have to march three or four thousand miles to protect the borders three or four thousand miles away from where they are.
But all the other products at InfowarStore.com are in stock.
We drop ship from Utah and their other factories and Colorado and other areas across the country that's horrible food.
But if it is the super silver wound gel, the strongest over-the-counter you can get, or it's the super silver toothpaste that's safe and effective for your mouth and knocks those viruses and bacteria out.
It's all good and well for this caller to say that Trump should be like Charles Martel and repel an invasion.
The hammer.
Think maybe if you're looking for some ancient example of someone who repelled an invasion, you could come up with a better example, probably super easily.
Martel was Duke and Prince of the Franks from 718 to 741, and in that period of time, he gained a reputation as a pretty good military leader with wars against the Arabs as well as the Saxons.
This is not why the caller is referencing him.
Throughout history, there's been some disagreement among historians about a particular victory in Martel's career.
That is his defeat of an Arab army advancing on Tour in 732.
One side argues that it was Martel's victory that saved the Western world from Muslim rule.
The other side points out that the earliest account of the battle, which was commissioned by Martel's uncle, clearly lays out that this Arab army had been enlisted by a Christian duke named Judo of Aquitaine to help him win back some of the land that had been taken by Martel.
This was Spanish land that was taken by Martel, and he had a mercenary army.
The narrative began in a book called Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon, released in 1776.
In the book, Gibbon argues that the Roman Empire fell due to embracing Christianity, which is not a position that most historians agree with.
Leaving that central thesis aside, his book also serves as the jumping off point for the retelling of the Battle of Tour, with his casting of Martel as a heroic leader who stopped Islam from overtaking the Western world.
This was not a case of Gibbon reflecting actual history.
It was him using a historical event to craft a narrative.
And it's a narrative that's been widely attractive to a certain subset of the population today.
In 2001, a multi-millionaire fascist heir to the Regnery publishing fortune, William Regnery Jr., founded the Charles Martel Society, whose founding members also included arch-white nationalist Jared Taylor.
This is a white nationalist outlet that runs the very racist and anti-Semitic Occidental Observer and was responsible for the founding of the National Policy Institute, whose president is Richard Spencer.
Through these outlets and other ventures, Regnery funds with grants, a message of white nationalism and brutal anti-Muslim rhetoric has been spread quite effectively.
He's far from the only spoke in that wheel, but William Regnery Jr. is a massive source of funding behind some of the early sources of what has become the alt-right in this modern cycle.
This isn't just some kind of intellectual publishing thing, though.
You know, like, hey, we talk about ideas.
This has real-world consequences, as we're seeing during the Christchurch shooting, where the killer had written the name Charles Martel on the barrel of the gun he used to murder 51 innocent people.
This twisted historical narrative about Martel began with Gibbon in 1776, and avowed bigots and fascists have turned him into a heroic figure using this narrative in their pantheon.
That's why this caller knows who Charles Martel is.
Yeah, he reads alt-right fascist anti-Muslim blogs that lionize and hero worship Charles Martel because of this distorted narrative of this battle from 17 or I'm sorry, 732.
When you hear someone evoke the Kalergi plan, you know absolutely without a doubt that that person that you're talking to is a white nationalist.
The Kalergi plan is a classic white nationalist conspiracy theory that posits that Austro-Hungarian intellectual Richard von Kudenhoff Kalergi had a secret plan to replace the white people in Europe with non-white immigrants, and that the EU is the final expression of this plan.
Basically, as the theory goes, these immigrants would have no intrinsic relationship to the countries they were living in, and thus they would be less likely to fight back against the formation of a one-world government that would usurp individual countries.
To support this theory, proponents tend to pick and choose various things from all of Kalergi's writings to craft a white genocide conspiracy.
For instance, he believed that, quote, the man of the future will be of mixed race.
This was a belief that he had based on the sense that prejudice will decrease over time and the people of different races will ultimately form families together more in the future.
The rub comes because Kalergi was also a big proponent of a united Europe as he advanced in his work, his work Pan-Europa.
It's probably important to recognize that this text was written and published between World War I and World War II.
So some of the utopian idealism of a peaceful united Europe might have been a direct response to the horror of the First World War.
The brief version of this conspiracy theory is basically just white nationalists combining Kalergi's advocacy for a united Europe with his belief that the future of man is being mixed race.
These are combined to argue that he wanted to unite Europe in order to bring in tons of non-white people who would then create this desired future of everyone being mixed race and there would be no more white people.
Oh, also proponents of this conspiracy believe Kalergi was doing this on behalf of the Jews.
Much like evoking Charles Martel, this caller bringing up the Kalergi plan is a fingerprint of a very extreme right white nationalist being on the phone.
That's what this is an indication of.
These are subtle signifiers that people listening might or might not catch on to, but indicate that the conversation that's being had is not about current events.
It's about a conspiracy theory that says Jews are trying to force integration on white people.
So Alex has complained about the whale Gorca earlier in this episode.
And that was to set up that towards the end of the episode, he would have Owen Schroer and Harrison Smith come in to talk about their experience being kicked out of CPAC by Gorka.
So the entire story is that Gorka came up to the Infowars people who were filming at CPAC and said they shouldn't be there since they're lunatics and conspiracy theorists.
Maybe he got them thrown out.
I have no idea, but at least the footage that Alex plays, I don't know if it shows that.
Anyway, this spirals out of control into Alex being convinced that Gorka was the neocon watchdog, roaming the halls, throwing out anyone who dares the neocon status quo of CPAC, which again included three members of Trump's family as speakers.
This is just Alex being Alex.
He knows Gorka has a huge radio show that's syndicated on Salem Media and is on way, way more stations than Alex is.
Gorka is someone who actually did work in the Trump administration and is directly connected to power, as opposed to Alex, who's just constantly shunned and kept far past an arm's distance.
Just like Alex tried to bait Joe Rogan into giving him free press by calling him a sneaky snake and trying to start a one-sided feud with him, he's trying to do the same thing with Gorka.
Alex knows that if Gorka takes the bait and starts responding to Alex on his own show, that's the equivalent of free marketing to a broader audience than Alex has access to.
This stuff is just pathetically transparent.
And if you pay attention, Alex doesn't seem to start feuds with people.
He doesn't have a possibility of getting free press attention from.
Joe Rogan, Sebastian Gorka, Brian Stelter.
These are all people who have platforms he can hope to co-opt.
This is one of his big strategies.
And if I were advising Gorka, I would tell him to ignore this.
There's one called Veggies and another one called Fiber and Spices.
But honestly, unless they're lying on their ingredient lists, this is all just natural things ground up into a pill form.
And none of them are making health claims, except the fiber one, which says that it helps with digestive health, which I think is not an irresponsible thing to suggest for a fiber pill.
So this other one is an ad that Gorka has for a product called Relief Factor, which they claim can, quote, help your body reduce pain associated with aging, exercise, and everyday living.
This is mostly attributed to the antioxidant, anti-inflammatory properties of its ingredients, which are Icarin, turmeric, resveratol, resveratrol, excuse me, and omega-3s.
I decided to check out InfoWars store and see if Alex sold these same things and how he sold them.
One thing that surprised me is that I knew that Alex sold a supplement called Icarin, but I went to look at it, and that product doesn't contain Icarin.
It's spelled differently.
Icarin is spelled I-C-A-R-I-I-N, and Alex's product is spelled I-C-U-R-E-N.
It seems like this is a clear attempt to make people think that this product contains Icarin, which is also sold in gas station bathrooms under the name Horny Goatweed.
I have no idea why Alex would name his product something so close to something that is the name of a really well-known supplement, unless he was trying to confuse people, but I have no idea.
In the write-up for Bodies, it says the product contains things that are, quote, known for their anti-inflammatory properties to work synergistically with turmeric for full body support.
The write-up says it will, quote, help boost and support your flexibility, mobility, joint function, immune system, and even more.
That honestly sounds pretty similar to the relief factor marketing.
DNA Force contains Resveratrol, and that product is sold to, quote, help support heart function, cellular energy production, assist in boosting mental health, promote energy production, and more.
They say the product can help fight against things causing cellular damage, which could be painful.
We know that Alex sells omega-3s in the form of his ultimate fish oil, and we know it's good because it gives Alex the burpees.
If you read the copy for Ultimate Fish Oil, this line jumps out at you.
Quote, studies have suggested that fish oils and fish oil supplementation can slightly lower blood pressure, increase triglyceride levels, decrease the growth rate of plaque, and provide a soothing reduction in inflammatory responses in joints.
Reducing inflammatory responses in joints is the same thing as reducing joint pain.
It would really suck if I had a clip from him from last Wednesday where he tries to sell bodies, his product, by saying that some people think it's better than Advil for pain relief.
Trump broke through the criticism, the attacks, the blackballing.
But the Democrats and the deep state use it on everybody else.
So the Republican establishment knows, keep Alex Jones and the populist movement and the liberty movement that got Trump elected out.
Don't let them take the party completely over and put people like Gorka as the police dog, who's not even American, in there hovering around, literally spouting and pontificating in an arrogant way.
Maybe it's a situation where he went and yelled at Jerry Nadler, interrupted the impeachment thing and had to go do a hard bid of a couple minutes in jail.
President Trump, about four and a half weeks ago, ordered the Pentagon and FEMA to prepare a national emergency, but he instituted a national emergency in response to coronavirus at that point.
And the Democrats have taken the mate in saying that he did not have any response to it.
I think he's had a very measured response.
He's not said that the virus is a hoax.
He said the hysteria by the ChiComs and the media is a hoax.
This is super weird because on March 3rd, Voice of America reported on Trump discussing a potential national emergency, saying, quote, I don't think you'll need that because I really think we're in extremely good shape.
We're prepared for anything, and we can always do that at a later date if we need it.
Trump definitely hasn't declared a national emergency publicly or secretly.
Alex is making this shit up.
He's just working off a headline in The Hill.
Quote, FEMA preparing for Trump emergency declaration on coronavirus report.
This article is about how, until the president declares a national emergency, FEMA is not allowed to do things like, quote, creating disaster medical assistance teams, mobile hospitals, and military transport.
There's a separate budget for FEMA that they have for disaster situations.
It's a full $34 billion right now.
And they're literally not allowed to use it unless Trump declares a national emergency.
These things aren't happening, such as FEMA setting up mobile hospitals and cracking into that $34 billion.
So there's a strong indication that no secret emergency declaration has been made.
This is not the same thing as a public health emergency that was declared by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar back on January 31st.
This was primarily to, quote, give state, tribal, and local health departments more flexibility to request that HHS authorize them to temporarily reassign state, local, and tribal personnel to respond to 2019 novel coronavirus if their salaries normally are funded in whole or in part by Public Health Service Act programs.
That's almost certainly what Alex is conflating with this Hill headline he skimmed.
And now he's turned that into a narrative that Trump secretly declared an emergency back at the end of January, and he's got this whole thing under control.
I would ask about the 4,700 or so cases in Iran, but I'm sure he'd just make some weird race science argument about Persian and Chinese genes being a lot of people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's no reason for Alex to be reporting that this virus is race-specific.
That is pure and simple, just an expression of his racism.
There's nothing else going on.
So Alex clearly is using this Hill article that is about how FEMA has funding that they can't use until there's an emergency declaration.
And we talked to other people that have sources confirmed from the Pentagon and from the White House that they've declared a secret emergency in the federal government in the agencies that would need to be dealing with that, but not to create a panic a month ago.
Well, that's in the news today.
FEMA preparing for possible coronavirus emergency declaration.
And they're like, no, they believe it's a 2% kill rate.
And they're telling us, get ready for 3 million dead.
So you need to know this is not a hoax.
The virus is real.
We don't want to panic, though, but we need people that obviously know that this is real because they kind of want the hardcore patriots that are serious people to know for whatever reason that I wasn't called and told this on his own volition over telephone.
I don't believe if this were real, Alex would ever say this person's name.
This is just random nonsense.
But you see the first contradiction of the original form of this narrative.
Now, instead of it just being these people of their own volition telling Alex this, they were commanded to because the higher-ups want to make sure that the hardcore patriot people like Alex know what's up because when it's coming down, they're going to need him prepared or something.
So now it's ordered.
This is official chain of command stuff, which is a direct contradiction of the earlier thing.
That's one of the reasons why I insisted you keep that in mind, because it's just a clear-cut case of this being bullshit.
This is one of my concerns, Alex, that there may be so many cities under lockdown and quarantine by the time we get to election day that there will be calls from the Democrats to postpone the election because not enough Democrats can't participate.
If your only way of feeling like validated or like you're doing a good job is by attacks that happen against you, you create a negative reward system.
You incentivize yourself to do things that will elicit negative responses from people because you'll experience those negative responses as if you're doing a good job.
And when I talk about God with him at dinner in person, he would, I mean, he wasn't manipulating.
He always been through.
He now understands it.
And that's a good thing.
And we should celebrate that.
And we should accept Roger, who was never a hypocrite about going to gay pride parades and who is a wild guy.
But his wife's a Christian and she's been wild too.
I've been wild.
Nobody is judging anybody here.
God judges the heart.
And so I just welcome Roger publicly proclaiming his faith in Jesus Christ into that.
And I think we should all welcome him because there are no atheists in foxholes.
You come under satanic attack, buddy.
You get Jesus or you bow to Satan and you get destroyed.
There's nothing like having the devil on your ass to get you to get over to Jesus.
And the minute they're doing all their evil stuff to you and persecuting you, the minute you just call on Jesus in the middle of the night for real and don't just tell Jesus what to do or don't just say, Jesus, I need your help.
That's when you're going to get Jesus.
And folks, I'm not up here like some preacher, man.
Let me tell you.
I mean, I never bragged about it or all that kind of stuff, but I've had a tragedy.
I've got a couple friends and done a few things and beat people to death and things like that.
I mean, I'm Mr. Worldly, but I'm telling you, Jesus is the only thing that's going to fix this.
I think that being worldly is more like I like a cigar, I drink champagne, I stay at high-end hotels, I beat people to death, or I've traveled the world.
Let's just start there.
That's one.
So, to Alex's point about whether or not he has bragged about beating people to death or fucking a lot, somebody's got a super cut.
Then the top two vote-getters end up in the general election, even if they're from the same party.
So Deanna is out.
The general election will be Nancy Pelosi being contested from the left by Batar, who will present a way more formidable challenge than Deanna Lorraine could ever hope to bring.
This episode is on the day of the primary, so I guess Alex imagines that this is some kind of a last push to get Lorraine that last mile that she needs to clench the election, but it was not to be.
I really don't want to make fun of her for getting involved in the political system, since I would encourage anyone to get involved if they feel like they can make a difference.
But based on the way she ran her campaign, I don't feel too bad about it.
Anybody who flies a plane around trying to make jokes about liberal tears deserves derision and mockery when they lose this depressing lady.
Like Alex is at a dry throat, I imagine, from rambling too much.
Or maybe it's not.
On March 7th, it was reported that attendee at CPAC had tested positive for coronavirus, which raises the possibility of the entire InfoWars crew being exposed to it.
I pray that this isn't the case, since I don't wish illness on people, even that I hate.
And because I can't imagine the horrible effect this would have on Alex's rhetoric.
I can't imagine that making it much better.
But Alex playing up this cough, I don't know, man.
So that part, the on-purpose part, is not in the headline.
He's just making that up.
This is about a study that was done specifically in Ontario, Canada, and they found that it's possible that Trump's election has thrown off normal sex ratios of newborns.
There's a Wired article that explains this really well.
And what it comes down to is that there's a documented relationship between stressful events and the sex ratio of babies, which it actually happened after 9-11 and the London bombings in 2005.
No one knows exactly why this is the case.
It's still something that science is trying to explore and understand.
But there's a pattern that's being observed where highly stressful geopolitical events have a tendency to skew births to being more females.
In this case, specific to Ontario, they found a ratio of 1.0217 boys born per girl born, down from the normal figure of 1.0605.
This is certainly really interesting.
And the more data points researchers have about this phenomenon, it gives them a better chance of figuring out what's going on.
However, this is not an instance of liberals choosing not to have boys.
We can assume that this was not in the 10% of the articles that Alexander.
So this story is about an anonymous person in Berkeley, California, requesting that their neighbors not cook meat with the windows open because the smell was overpowering to them when they went jogging.
Even the worst interpretation of this story, this is a neighborhood issue.
There's literally no reason for Alex to be wasting his time critiquing the politeness or lack thereof in a random neighborhood he's never been to.
There's a decent chance this isn't even a real story.
It's all based on someone posting an anonymous note they got making this request, which could easily be fake.
No matter what, it doesn't merit Alex calling anyone scum or even talking about this story at all.
It's the definition of trivial.
Also, that story has nothing to do with the government.
The vegan did not demand anything.
It was a request.
And the request was not for them to stop cooking meat.
It was to close the windows when they did so.
Looks like that story was also not in the 10% Alex read.
Everybody looks at that phony pile of dog manure and knows that he will burn in hell.
Because I know he's got financial lawsuits against us, which makes me feel great.
When a pile of dog feces like that doesn't like me, it means I'm doing really good.
So bring it on, you demon midget.
By the way, there's nothing against short people.
Hell, I'm not that great in stature.
But I mean, it's just, he thinks he's so big and so powerful.
He definitely has a Napoleonic syndrome.
I mean, you know, I'm 5'11 when I stand up straight.
He's at least four and 9 when he stands up straight.
And boy, let me tell you, that really sold the public.
All that sacheting around.
And I'm not saying my Bloomberg's gay or anything.
I'm just saying if I was going to cash somebody for a gay gangbang video, he'd definitely be the main subject of the deposits that were going to be made.
However, I guess Alex took the news that Bloomberg won that one primary pretty hard because he spends most of this first half hour of the show complaining.
And it's mostly about that video that came out of Bloomberg eating food with his hands pretty grossly.
There's supposed to be all this super important news that you always weirdly don't have time to get to.
And you spend over one-sixth of your broadcast day playing joyless memes and whining about a dude who's already dropped out of the race and how he eats food.
And I was smiling at the checkout, folks, and I'm going to try to just say it was a wall of their souls aren't gone, but they're in suspended animation.
They're in carbonite.
They've been put in a trance and they've been put in a weird place and they think they don't have any power and they think they're desperate and they don't have a reason to live.
And so they're just stewing in self-loathing instead of a connection to God, a connection to beauty.
If they could just recognize beauty and painting or knitting or helping somebody or gardening, then they would connect to the earth.
But because they're all smartphones and everything else, they're just dying.
It's scary.
And what I saw, there's what I see in a Bernie Sanders event.
Then I go to some rural town to meet white people, Hispanics, over there.
They're all alive and happy because they're working and they're alive and they're doing something.
You do not know just on immediate viewing of the video.
I don't know initially, and neither does Alex.
I'm less interested in that, though, because this clip offers a perfect opportunity to explain one of my main problems with Alex Jones.
It's very difficult to engage in his ideas a lot of the time because he and I have a very basic epistemological disagreement.
Fundamentally, we don't agree on what it means to know something or how knowing something is achieved.
Let's use this video as an example.
Here's how my process works.
It starts with a question.
In this case, is this video real?
I can't possibly know that from the presentation on Alex's show.
There's just not enough information.
So in order to reach that conclusion, I need to seek out information.
Through a little poking around, I can find out that this video is said to have been published by BBC Persia, and it's allegedly of a number of body bags in a hospital in Qom, in Iran.
An article in the New York Post says that it was originally shared on social media by a journalist named Mohamed Ahwayz.
And so while the official account of fatalities in Iran is 107, opponents of the Ayatollah have claimed that they believe that his regime is covering up the real scope of the situation and that there could be many more deaths.
Sure.
This video has been used as an argument that there are way more deaths than the 107.
With this information, I can entertain the possibility that this video is definitely real for a couple of reasons.
The government of Iran is not the most open and transparent government, so the possibility that they've not been forthcoming is in the realm of possibility.
But even if that isn't the case, there aren't more than 100 body bags in that video, and the outbreak in Iran has been largely centered in Qom.
So it's also possible that this video depicts the people who have died, which is very sad, but not necessarily proof of any cover-up in the way that this video has been used by some.
Although it is entirely possible that the way that they're using it is no matter what, you certainly can't jump to interpretation.
If that's an acceptable way for him to come to his reporting, then he's just really talking about his feelings on his show, like he said under that deposition.
If you have a sound process, you will generally arrive at an appropriate conclusion on a more consistent basis than if you're just like, ah, fuck it, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You'll randomly be okay or close to right in some cases.
See, this is why it's a bad idea to have your militia leader gun weirdo buddy on your show to talk as if he's an expert in public health because he'll say things like that.
There's currently no evidence that the coronavirus is transmittable in an airborne fashion.
It's been shown to transmit by human-to-human contact, by contact with some surfaces where the virus may have ended up on, and by respiratory droplets caused by coughs and sneezes.
It's easy to say that if a sneeze can transmit the virus, it means it's airborne, but that's not the same thing.
Diseases like measles can live in the air for long periods, hours after someone sneezes or coughs or emits, which is not this case with the coronavirus as far as the current information on the subject shows.
This matters because the difference between being airborne and not is massive in terms of the spread of the virus.
When Stuart Rhodes, what he's doing right now is lying to Alex's audience to make them more scared about a health matter, which is why he shouldn't be speaking on these subjects.
He has no idea what he's talking about, and he can really only do harm.
Honestly, Stuart should stick to whining about guns and threatening a violent revolution.
The military has all the answers, but I was told a month ago, we believe it kills about 2% of people, and we're already having an undeclared emergency going on.
So because now Alex has added the secret emergency declaration that he's building from the Hill headlines and conflating the Azar announcement from the end of January.
Now he needs one of his sources to have been a month in the past.
So he's taken the first lieutenant colonel that talked to him over the weekend and moved it back to a month before because it's more convenient for the narrative.
Again, Stuart has no business talking about any of these issues, but he makes a claim here that's really kind of interesting and I think also very irresponsible.
So there was an article about people who had recovered from coronavirus testing positive afterward.
It was published in the New York Times on March 6th.
But that's after this episode was aired.
So they don't know about that article unless it's the Time Lord thing.
But it is discussing the same phenomenon that Alex and Stewart are talking about.
There are not many cases of reinfection that have been found, but experts who have looked into it are of the opinion that there are a couple explanations that are the most likely.
The first is that these people who, you know, these are people who got false negatives in the tests that deemed them recovered.
So it's not actually a reinfection as much as it is them still being sick, but having gotten inaccurate negative tests.
And the other possibility that they often bring up is that the PCR test that's being done that found them positive after recovering could be picking up remnants of the virus because it's a super sensitive test.
This New York Times article points out that PCR tests still, quote, detect remnants of the measles virus months after people are no longer contagious.
So there are those possibilities.
There are other explanations than this virus keeps coming back.
The Journal of the American Medical Association found four patients in China who had tested negative, been discharged, and then tested positive five to 13 days later.
Though they tested positive later, they were asymptomatic and none of the family members who lived with them were infected, which tends to indicate that they weren't contagious.
Their study was inconclusive as to the cause of this phenomenon, but suggested further examination.
There was recently one guy in China who died after getting discharged from the hospital, presumably because he was clear of the virus.
His situation doesn't match what they're talking about, though, since he died of respiratory failure.
So it's more likely a case where he was wrongly discharged.
He was one of a number of readmittances to the Fangkang Hospital, one of the newly constructed facilities they've put up.
So odds are this was a hospital problem where they discharged patients too capriciously.
There was one case in China, or I'm sorry, in Japan of a woman who recovered and then days later returned to the hospital with a sore throat and chest pains and tested positive again.
So that kind of feeds into the it attacks the heart stuff that Stuart was talking about.
Some early indications that doctors are seeing are that the antibodies that the body creates in response to the coronavirus do not persist for very long in most people.
So unlike chickenpox, where if you get it and you're immune to it afterwards, people may only have a very temporary immunity in the case of this virus.
There have been other cases than these, but there are, quote, too few twice positive cases to conduct a study or draw a definitive conclusion.
As Sharon Lewis, the director of the Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity in Melbourne, told Fortune.
I was able to find an article in Taiwan News that seems to match up a little closer with what Alex and Stewart are saying.
This article is about an anonymous doctor sending Taiwan News a message claiming that reinfection of the virus increased people's deadliness, the deadliness of the infection.
Sure.
The sub-headline of this article reads, quote, instead of creating immunity, the virus can reportedly reinfect an individual and hasten fatal heart attack.
So if you just skim the headlines, you might think that this doctor was telling Taiwan News that the reinfection of coronavirus attacks your heart, which is in line with what Alex and Stewart are saying.
If you read the actual article, here's what the doctor said: quote, a few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds they're using damaging their heart tissue.
And when they get it a second time, the antibody doesn't help but makes it worse.
And they die a sudden death from heart failure.
I can't find any data backing up this anonymous claim.
But if you take it at face value as accurate, even this is just saying that the meds that were being used to treat the virus are damaging people's hearts.
That's not indicative of the virus attacking people's hearts.
This is an article from February 14th, so it's not exactly breaking news, but I could see this possibly, you know, it's possible that there's something here.
If it's true that the meds that were being used compromised a patient's heart, it would put them at far greater risk from the virus.
But the reinfection has nothing to do with that.
That's strictly a problem with these meds.
Anyway, the point is, if this is the source that Stuart and Alex are using, they're completely misusing it.
And I wouldn't be surprised if neither of them had actually even read the article, just read the headline, because the headline is in line.
The headline's in line with the narrative that they're putting forth.
The article is not.
At this stage, even experts can't definitively say whether the relatively small phenomenon of people testing positive, negative, positive is the result of human error, faulty tests, or some feature of this virus that is not yet understood.
And Alex Jones and the head of the Oath Keepers, they know way less than the experts.
I do think that that is one thing that because I remember I've gotten a few people texting me and messaging me about how when Elizabeth Warren dropped out of the race, they're disappointed because now we're back to two white dudes all over again.
And that Nazi flag really should put into sharp relief that we are not back to two white dudes.
If Alex wants to challenge his mind, he should take up Sudoku.
If he wants to get the perspectives of people he thinks are interesting, then he should probably learn how to conduct an interview.
The problem with Alex's show is not that he has different people on with different ideas.
The problem is that he doesn't engage with those ideas from a consistent position.
He agrees with just about everything his dumb friends say, and then he changes his narratives based on them.
You can see earlier how he turned something Mike Adams said about a Rush Limbaugh clip into two high-level sources telling him that half the U.S. was going to get coronavirus with 3 million deaths.
There really is only one responsible way to do a show like what Alex is trying to do, and that's for him to stay neutral, to have a consistent northward-facing bearing, which would be hard because it would require him to prepare.
He would need to hear Stuart Rhodes say the coronavirus is airborne and be able to correct him, which Alex would never do.
For one, he doesn't want to offend his gun buddy.
And two, he's more than happy to let Stuart say it so he can say it himself later.
Because Alex refuses to do any work and he can't stop himself from believing basically anything his stupid friends tell him, you end up in a situation where his show ends up being super disorienting and kind of abusive.
For this episode, I've listened to Sunday through Wednesday of last week, and I don't know what Alex's real position on coronavirus is.
On Sunday, the virus isn't a big deal, and the real issue is the supply chain disruption.
He even suggests that the whole thing is fake, because if it was real, China would have covered it up.
The whole thing is a plot to disrupt the economy and attack Trump.
But then on Monday, Alex mysteriously has two fake high-level sources who predict 3 million dead, one over the weekend and one that morning.
And all of a sudden, this is a severe medical panic again.
And even though it's a major crisis, he still has time to try and bait Gorka into a fight.
Then on Tuesday, it's still the 3 million death, dire situation, but it's cool because Trump secretly declared a national emergency a month ago.
And all the unpreparedness you see all around you is actually just globalists in the bureaucracy trying to fuck Trump over.
Of course, even though he's still in a gigantic pandemic mode, Alex still has time to spend an hour grotesquely interviewing Tommy Robinson and crying about God.
Then on Wednesday, one of these fake sources actually told Alex this stuff about the 2% death rate a month ago, even though a month ago Alex was speculating this was a race-specific bioweapon that maybe Trump had launched on China as payback for fentanyl.
And then he has super credible, always right expert Steve Pieczenik on to say that this isn't man-made and it's no big deal because he got it and he cured himself.
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And what we need to do is get rid of the CDC and the HHS.
I pay attention to Alex and listen to his show actively, and I have no idea what his actual position is.
He goes along with the whims of these guests, and contradictory things they say become parts of his narratives in a way that creates a generalized incoherence that's really hard to penetrate.
I suspect that this is intentional.
If he operates this way, Alex will have endorsed and played around with a hundred nonsense theories that his guests have brought up.
And on the off chance that one of them ends up being close to accurate, he can pretend those other 99 were just in wargaming things and not really his position.
And the real one was the one that's close to accurate.
I'm fairly convinced that this is a strategy, consciously or not.
But whatever the case, it makes this show very hard to understand.
If you're just passively listening to this and you actually believe that Alex knows anything about what he's talking about, I can't imagine what you have to go through on a weekly basis.
Everything changes because nothing's real.
On Monday, Alex's source told him the 2% figure that past weekend.
Then on Wednesday, it was a month ago.
Alex tells Steve that he knew Trump was going to get elected two years before the election when Trump didn't even announce two years in advance.
And Alex thought Trump was a mobbed-up fraud until December 2015, less than a year before the election.
In the same way that Alex is not a consistent protagonist for the show, the past of his positions and what he states as facts are just a whim.
People who listen to this show were tricked into thinking that what they were getting was researched and hidden information, but it's really just the emotional outbursts of a racist idiot who can't even be bothered to read articles past headlines.
It's sad.
I mean, it really bums me out.
It's difficult for me because I know that a certain amount of Alex's audience didn't know what they were getting into.
Like you get seduced in with this promise of like entertainment.
That those two high-level sources, the way that story changes and the beginning of it, the way it's so clearly based on a conversation with Mike Adams about a Rush Limbaugh clip, like you wouldn't notice that unless you're paying attention.
And there's a good example of a real crisis that has a side benefit for them of shutting down the ability of people in Hong Kong, for example, to protest.
And same thing in the United States.
A lockdown in our country will stop the rise of these militia units.
For example, in Virginia, no one's going to want to go to a mass muster of 500 guys like we just had.
You remember a couple clips back before I went on that rant about how Alex's show is abusively inconsistent?
You remember how in that clip, Alex said that people ask him why he says one thing one hour and then something else the next?
You remember how he tried to maintain that his consistency was that he's pro-gun, Second Amendment?
Like 10 minutes later, here he is trying to push back on Stuart Rhodes talking shit about Mike Pence when he's informed that Pence is in favor of red flag laws, which to people like Stewart and Alex are the equivalent of tyranny.
On August 28th, 2019, Pence told a roundtable discussion.
He held one in response to the Dayton and El Paso shootings.
And Stewart is totally right.
Mike Pence was arguing that Indiana's existing red flag laws about guns were a model that the federal government could follow.
This was a big deal in the fringe gun weirdo circles.
Alex's buddy Larry Pratt's group, Gun Owners of America, even launched a seven-tweet thread about the meeting saying, quote, Mike Pence is again calling for red flag gun grabs, citing that Indiana's gun confiscation law could be a model for the country.
The reports about his cover-up of the doctor who was sexually assaulting members of the Ohio State Wrestling Team when Jordan was the assistant coach are just getting more and more damning.
On February 12th, the Daily Beast reported that the former team captain Adam DiSabato spoke before the House Civil Justice Committee and testified that, quote, Jordan called him repeatedly in 2018 after his brother, Michael DiSabato, publicly claimed that the sexual abuse of late team doctor Richard Strauss was common knowledge to those in the wrestling program, including Jordan.
Adam told the committee, Jim Jordan called me crying, groveling, begging me to go against my brother.
That's the kind of cover-up that's going on there.
An OSU investigation found that this doctor had abused at least 177 kids between 1979 and 1998.
And Jordan was the assistant coach there between 1987 and 1995, all periods where this doctor was there.
As if things weren't already looking bad for Jordan, on March 6th, CNN reported that there are now six former OSU wrestlers who were willing to speak with them and that, quote, they were present when Jordan heard or responded to sexual misconduct complaints about the team doctor Richard Strauss.
According to the article, eight more former wrestlers said that the doctor's behavior was, quote, an open secret in the athletic department.
All this is really bad for Jim Jordan because his whole position on this is that he had no idea that this doctor was abusing these students.
Meanwhile, all available evidence kind of points to him knowing and turning a blind eye.
So, cool, Alex.
If that's who you're going to go to bat for as a good guy, you should feel really good about that.
I wonder if this sort of information is the kind of thing Alex will magically become aware of if Jim Jordan ever turns on Trump.
And the way to do that is to call up the militia, as the colonel's pointing out, put us all of us veterans back on the border and lock it down and stop all international flights to start right there.
So I think underneath some of this, like, no matter what the narrative is, even though we can see over the course of the span of a few days, it shifts dramatically.
There's large changes to what Alex's main driving point is.
Even beneath that, there's probably this underlying current of, I hope Trump uses this to enact martial law.