Today, Dan and Jordan keep their eyes on the present day of the Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex gets too angry to start his show because he saw a picture of a guy he doesn't like, lies about a past career, and takes his Coronavirus coverage to "reporting on memes" level.
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| It's time to pray. | ||
| I have great respect for knowledge fight. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Let me ask you a quick question. | ||
| Super Bowl Sunday. | ||
| What was the last Super Bowl party you attended? | ||
| Fucking excited about the Super Bowl. | ||
| It's the one American holy day. | ||
| So pumped. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I say happy holidays around Super Bowl time. | ||
| I'm overdoing this just because right before we started recording, I informed Jordan that I woke up this morning and realized I had no idea that today, as we're recording this, is the day of the Super Bowl. | ||
| Yeah, neither of us knew who was playing. | ||
| I think 2008. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright, Obama just won election. | ||
| He was inaugurated a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| It was the one, the Super Bowl, when Eli Manning was the quarterback. | ||
| And he won. | ||
| Jason Pierre-Paul just ran rampant all over the Patriots office. | ||
| No idea what year that was, but yeah, that was probably the last time. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I might have been with a friend at a bar watching it or something at some point during the comedy years, certainly here in Chicago. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't care too much. | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm happy for everyone who does, though. | ||
| Enjoy it. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Have a great time. | ||
| I wish you the best. | ||
| And this year, you know, I'm from Missouri, so the Chiefs are the team. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| When I was growing up, everyone was... | ||
| Is Kansas City in Missouri? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I mean, it's in both states. | ||
| There's Kansas City, Kansas. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But when I was growing up, the big thing was like Kurt Warner and the Rams. | ||
| Sure, sure, the Rams. | ||
| Yeah, that was 2001. | ||
| Yeah, and so I was like, you know, 16, 17 around that time. | ||
| People were really into it. | ||
| Into these rams. | ||
| Yeah, man! | ||
| Greatest show on turf! | ||
| But the real Missouri heads were still Chiefs guys. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And gals. | ||
| They still loved the Chiefs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I remember I went to see Wu-Tang Clan live. | ||
| At the Super Bowl? | ||
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No, no. | |
| At the Blue Note in Columbia, Missouri. | ||
| I went to go see Wu-Tang. | ||
| And how they did it is all of them came out one at a time. | ||
| And then at the end did a fifth thing as a group. | ||
| And Method Man was the last to come out by himself. | ||
| And he got on stage in a Rams jersey. | ||
| And he was like, how many of y 'all people out here love the Rams? | ||
| And they were like, woo! | ||
| And he just shook his head at the audience. | ||
| Tore off the Rams jersey. | ||
| There's a Chiefs jersey under it. | ||
| Place fucking exploded. | ||
| Method man knows what he's fucking doing, man. | ||
| Did that big laugh and got into Rock Wild or whatever. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| Place went fucking atomic level. | ||
| The energy in that room was something I still remember to this day. | ||
| That is a fucking showman. | ||
| People love the Chiefs and I wish them the best in their Super Bowl endeavors. | ||
| I think they all knew that the Rams were going to move to L.A. eventually. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I think that was the general vibe of that time 20 years ago. | ||
| So, anyway, Jordan, this podcast is writing a lot about Method Man's feelings on Missouri football teams. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And quite a bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't know much about both. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So today, Jordan, we are still in the present day because I just can't not, I can't not, I can't do anything else. | ||
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You just can't quit. | |
| You just can't quit the present. | ||
| Things just keep happening. | ||
| Things keep, like, events happen. | ||
| We're in the middle of just absolute chaos in terms of things that are geopolitically relevant. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So we're going over January 31st, 2020. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| This is 2020. | ||
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God damn it. | |
| So, in the surrounding context of this, you have that... | ||
| Day will be when the Senate votes on whether or not to have witnesses in the impeachment trial. | ||
| That's the day of Brexit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You have the coronavirus situation still looming in the minds of propagandists and conspiracy theorists. | ||
| And we're going to talk about Wolfgang Halbig, guys. | ||
| Still, I've missed a couple episodes, but I have not heard him come up at all. | ||
| His arrest has not been mentioned in the time that I've been listening. | ||
| So, you know, there's just a ton of things. | ||
| I mean, we got the Iowa caucuses on Monday, too. | ||
| So you got just, like, everything is in play. | ||
| So much going on. | ||
| And our coming military dictatorship is going to be great. | ||
| So I've been listening to other things, trying to find episodes that might be interesting to go over, but I just feel like if we don't stick around in the present, we run the risk of missing some things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I've just committed myself to the fact that we've got to be in the present for a while, probably. | ||
| The foreseeable future. | ||
| And I'm going to do my best to make it fun as we go along. | ||
| I will say. | ||
| In much the same way, we got to hear Alex Jones interview a baby on a recent show. | ||
| This episode does include Alex Jones doing one of my favorite big brags he's ever done. | ||
| A little brag about his past that I cannot... | ||
| Believe is true in any way. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And it makes me giggle. | ||
| I'll tell you, the only thing I don't believe is him saving a dog's life. | ||
| I'll tell you that right now. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| So, before we get down to business today, Jordan, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show. | ||
| Yay! | ||
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| No, not that one. | ||
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| Are we the big-ass letdown? | ||
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| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare Infowar on you. | ||
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Thank you so much, Natalie, Matthew, and Becca M. Yes, thank you very much. | |
| If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, it's Super Bowl Sunday. | ||
| I like this show. | ||
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| No donations support football whatsoever. | ||
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| It's true. | ||
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| We would appreciate it. | ||
| It'd be lovely. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we start off as Alex starts off. | ||
| I mean, he's still on the coronavirus stuff. | ||
| And so here's where he's at on this January 31st. | ||
| Well, the United Nations is working with the globalist client state of China to standardize worldwide martial law policies. | ||
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Personally, I think myself and the Director General have never seen the scale commitment of an epidemic response at this level, in terms of all of government involvement across all of the different arms of government, with the tremendous support being poured into Wuhan and Hubei from the central government, with a highly organized emergency management system, The challenge is great, but the response has been massive. | |
| And the Chinese government deserves huge credit for that response and for the transparency in which they have dealt with this. | ||
| A case in point in terms of one of the clusters of infection that we're currently working with Germany to investigate, it was the lab in China who contacted Germany to tell them that they had a return case that was positive. | ||
| So China is not only helping to manage the cases in its own country, but it is actively... | ||
| And it just goes on... | ||
| Alex plays the... | ||
| How is there a bad thing there? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I didn't do a conspiracy! | ||
| He's playing that clip to demonstrate it's something nefarious, but it's nothing close to what he's saying. | ||
| I recognize the voice he's playing because I happened to watch that conference that he's playing a clip from. | ||
| Alex is saying that the UN is working with the Chinese government, but this is actually a World Health Organization conference. | ||
| And in fairness, the WHO is a branch of the UN, but this still feels a little bit sloppy for him to just be like, ah, it's all UN. | ||
| Anyway, I don't know. | ||
| I'll give him half credit. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| Also, of course the World Health Organization is working with China on this outbreak. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| What does Alex expect him just to be like, I will wing it. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| The part that Alex plays there is this World Health Organization representative talking about how quickly the Chinese government recognized the virus, identified it, found its genome, and shared the genome with the rest of the world so people could identify it if it pops up in their regions. | ||
| Of all the things in this whole story, I don't know how information sharing is something that Alex is taking issue with. | ||
| That seems to be the lead. | ||
| Information sharing is one degree of separation away from standardizing global martial law, Dan. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| It's wild that that's the angle that he's starting this whole thing off on, because it's weak. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird that he picked the one thing that everybody is kind of universally praising China for in order to demonize the Chinese. | ||
| Yeah, it's strange. | ||
| That's a little bit weird. | ||
| So this is just a little bit of like a little nibble. | ||
| An amuse-bouche at the beginning of the show complaining about the virus outbreak. | ||
| Standardized global martial law. | ||
| Alex gets distracted because one of his interns plays a little prank on him, I think. | ||
| There, that's what I was telling folks about. | ||
| Coming in here and seeing this incredibly triggering image. | ||
| But I'm going to restart the show. | ||
| So what's happened is... | ||
| There's a triggering image? | ||
| Somebody has put up on his big screen a picture of Adam Schiff. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| And Alex cannot stand the sight of Adam Schiff. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| So he is sort of losing it a little bit, and like you heard right there, he's like, all right, after the break, we're just going to restart the show. | ||
| There, that's what I was telling folks about, coming in here and seeing this incredibly triggering image. | ||
| But I'm going to restart the show next segment. | ||
| We're going to just disregard this segment as if this segment never even existed. | ||
| And a lot of that problem is I get in here last minute right before I go around taking care of business and I got here about 30 seconds late, so I apologize to the crew on that. | ||
| But I'm going to reset here and not just blow up and turn this frickin' table over, man, because I'm pissed about what's going on in this world. | ||
| And like I said, that son of a bitch Schiff pisses me off and I... | ||
| I probably shouldn't even have that up there. | ||
| But what the hell is wrong with that piece of crap? | ||
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And how the hell is such a piece of garbage ruling over us? | |
| Sick of it! | ||
| By the way, that's a normal response to a bug-eyed, pervert, child molester like him running our country. | ||
| Piece of crap. | ||
| So, I mean, he's just freaking... | ||
| He can't handle the sight of this guy. | ||
| That seems excessive. | ||
| I've done a show about Alex Jones for three years now, and I loathe the man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can handle seeing a picture of him. | ||
| I think the president is one of the most evil people I've ever encountered in my entire life. | ||
| You've encountered the president? | ||
| No, not him. | ||
| Personally. | ||
| I mean, come and... | ||
| You can still stand to see a picture of a person. | ||
| Yeah, I can look at him. | ||
| It's a very weird thing. | ||
| But I love that Alex is getting so fucking worked up about seeing this picture. | ||
| And they'll be like, hey, this is normal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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This is normal. | |
| This is just who I am. | ||
| This is human. | ||
| I am fucking insane. | ||
| This is what people do. | ||
| This is what people do. | ||
| They see a picture of Adam Schiff and then they really have to go over the top doing a performance of being really furious. | ||
| Except I'm not positive that it is a performance. | ||
| I think that there is some sort of real unregulated emotion that he has when he sees people that he doesn't like. | ||
| Just this overarching uncontrollable rage. | ||
| It seems like he could have used a trigger warning. | ||
| For years, he has railed against it, but it seems like somebody should have said that... | ||
| I mean, that's what he's asking for. | ||
| Yeah, it really is. | ||
| Like, his staff don't put up images that trigger me. | ||
| It does kind of sound like it. | ||
| I need a safe space for pictures of Adam. | ||
| It does seem like it. | ||
| Otherwise, I'm going to freak out and start yelling, and we're going to have to restart the show, which isn't the thing that can be done with live broadcasts. | ||
| No, you can restart it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Just everybody... | ||
| It's like when you're... | ||
| When they introduce evidence that the judge is like, disregard that. | ||
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Strike that from the record. | |
| Strike that from the record. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he... | ||
| This, again... | ||
| Be clear. | ||
| This is not part of the show. | ||
| This is absolutely not. | ||
| This is before the show starts. | ||
| This is stricken from the record. | ||
| The jury may not consider this clip. | ||
| Seriously, I was thinking how much I hate him at 3.30 in the morning. | ||
| He's just a detestable person. | ||
| And look, he works for the Democrats at the top. | ||
| So he doesn't just look like a pedophile. | ||
| He is one of the Democrats at the top. | ||
| All the tea in China. | ||
| All the tea in China that that guy is a pedophile. | ||
| I will take that back. | ||
| If I was casting someone as a pedophile in a movie, there's only one person that, on the bill, as a top star, as a pedophile, you know, if you had a movie about a pedophile that kidnaps kids and keeps them in basements and tortures them and eats them, Stelter or Schiff? | ||
| to it really feel like this is illegal the most creepy demonic filthy make your skin crawl pieces of garbage that rape america rape the truth won our children won our guns and are quarterbacking the psychic gang rape of the planet I told you I'm going to reset. | ||
| I'm going to come back. | ||
| This is not the show you just saw. | ||
| Just a little screw-ups in here and shift. | ||
| Can't handle it. | ||
| Can't handle it. | ||
| Ah, boy. | ||
| Boy. | ||
| What a baby. | ||
| We are getting real... | ||
| We're really getting to the point where it's like, somebody needs to confine this man. | ||
| I really think you can't do that. | ||
| No, because I think that he's using such... | ||
| I think... | ||
| I think he's walking a line in terms of defamation, but he keeps talking about psychic gang rape of the country. | ||
| Those are terms that don't mean anything. | ||
| That's not actionable. | ||
| And to say that someone looks like a pedophile is a judgment. | ||
| That's not something that is defamatory. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But also... | ||
| Brian Stelter. | ||
| He did directly call him a pedophile, though. | ||
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Right. | |
| He did say he's a pedophile. | ||
| I think he said he wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| He did also call him. | ||
| Yeah, it's not good. | ||
| I don't know what you'd have to do. | ||
| They're both public figures. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It would be difficult. | ||
| Right, it would be difficult. | ||
| I still feel like you can't directly go on the radio and say, certainly, that Adam Schiff is a pedophile. | ||
| Great news, though. | ||
| That was not part of the show. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| It's a moot point. | ||
| It's stricken for the record. | ||
| I don't know if I've ever heard an episode where Alex is like, alright, this stuff that I'm doing right now, not part of the show. | ||
| What you just heard, not real. | ||
| I'm taking a mulligan on this one. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Also, if you're casting a movie... | ||
| I would say that Brian Stelter and Adam Schiff are both not in the running. | ||
| No, I think they would be perfectly cast, though, as both Brian Stelter and Adam Schiff. | ||
| In a movie who needed someone to play Brian Stelter, I'd recommend. | ||
| I would hire Brian Stelter right away. | ||
| Stunt cast. | ||
| So anyway, now we get to the actual show, because I wasn't part of the show. | ||
| Alex comes in, and apparently CNN has a problem with white people. | ||
| Trying to stop the coronavirus. | ||
| And CNN says that white people are the problem. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| It's an Infowars.com article with their tweets and reports. | ||
| CNN is angry that white people are trying to stop the coronavirus spreading. | ||
| Yes, it's white people's fault. | ||
| It's white people's fault. | ||
| So the article in Infowars, unsurprisingly, was written by Paul Joseph Watson, who found a CNN tweet to complain about. | ||
| the pictures that Trump tweeted out where he was being briefed about the coronavirus situation by a panel of experts was legitimately all white men, with one white woman appearing to be at the meeting in the back row. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The CNN tweet links to an opinion piece on CNN about how striking this image is and how commonplace it's become in Trump's administration to only see white people in positions of authority or even close to power or officialdom. | ||
| What? | ||
| How did anybody see that coming? | ||
| No one is mad that they were trying to work on the virus situation. | ||
| It's just an op-ed that's pointing out how Trump tweeted this picture along with the caption calling them, quote, the world's best experts anywhere in the world. | ||
| As the article expresses, quote, The recent photos of the best experts telegraph the kinds of people the administration deems worthy of holding power or even being in close proximity to it. | ||
| The article ends, quote, The visuals that have come to define the Trump administration say something else, too. | ||
| They signal which people in a multiracial, half-female country Trump values the opinions of. | ||
| Mostly white men who are mirror images of the president himself. | ||
| Paul takes this pretty short op-ed on CNN, which mirrors points that people have made pretty consistently about Trump's administration, going all the way back to day one. | ||
| And this is how he comments on it. | ||
| This is from the article. | ||
| According to CNN, the real concern about the coronavirus is not the potential for a global pandemic. | ||
| It's the fact there are too many white people trying to stop it. | ||
| Which is not accurate at all. | ||
| He's missing the point intentionally. | ||
| I think that might be a little off. | ||
| I don't think his analysis is correct here. | ||
| He says later in his piece, quote, Apparently, wanting to not appear racist is more important than stopping a rapidly spreading global pandemic, which has now reached at least 23 countries. | ||
| This is yet another example of how diversity means less white people. | ||
| At the heart of this flagrantly racist premise that people should not be judged on the content of their character but on the color of their skin and that people with white skin should be discriminated against. | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| Paraphrasing Martin Luther King Jr. | ||
| At the end of the sentence when you say that diversity just means less white people which I should point out Is a common neo-Nazi white supremacist talking point. | ||
| At the beginning of the sentence, you make a very incoherent sort of point. | ||
| I think his point was Martin Luther King Jr. would have loved neo-Nazis. | ||
| Legitimately, that diversity means less white people is a gigantic foundational talking point for white supremacist groups. | ||
| That is like... | ||
| When you hear stuff like that flying around from people, they're really showing cards. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Anyway, that's in Paul's article. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| In his white nationalist article, he quotes Martin Luther King Jr., which is, I think you get five points for that in the right wing? | ||
| Didn't quote, paraphrase. | ||
| Paraphrase. | ||
| In the same sentence that he's also using neo-Nazi talking points. | ||
| Yeah, I think they give him five points for that. | ||
| I think he gets a raise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In order to drive home his point that people weren't having this kind of bullshit like what CNN was throwing around, Paul posted some response tweets from the people. | ||
| The people. | ||
| Just normal responses. | ||
| All neo-Nazis. | ||
| One of them was Carpe Donctum. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Of course. | ||
| The people. | ||
| He had three response tweets, I believe. | ||
| One was Carpe Donctum. | ||
| Another, I have no idea who they were. | ||
| And the third one was Gad Sad. | ||
| Gad Sad, if you don't know, is a dude who's mostly notable for being a frequent SJW anti-feminist, SJW bashing, anti-feminist guest on Joe Rogan's podcast who got super pissed off when he wasn't included in that Barry Weiss piece about the intellectual dark web. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I'm not one of them. | |
| That's, oh boy. | ||
| So these are the normal. | ||
| Paul's including responses. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| These are the general... | ||
| Carpe Donctum and Gad said. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Great. | ||
| The peasantry is what he's quoting here. | ||
| The people. | ||
| I think you get an idea of where this angle is coming from. | ||
| So that's good. | ||
| Good coverage here. | ||
| So Alex is really concerned about trying to... | ||
| Take the situation that's happening in China and apply it emotionally to America, to his listeners. | ||
| And so he gets to trying to do that in this next clip. | ||
| What'll happen if there's something like that here, and they try to tell a city, shelter in place, no one's there to help you, and you can't have any food, looting and burning would begin within hours. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| It would look like Devil's Night in Detroit wrapped into the purge for real. | ||
| And Matt Bracken is a great author, researcher, former Navy SEAL, terrorism expert, and he's been predicting this for a long time, that it's going to break out somewhere in the world like this, and we're going to see this type of hysteria. | ||
| So we're going to talk to him when we come back. | ||
| So, we got Alex saying that if there was a situation where there was a quarantine or a lockdown in the United States, he's also adding these weird qualifiers where they're like, also you can't have food. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, if that... | ||
| Is going to happen. | ||
| You're going to need to buy some food buckets. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Otherwise, there's going to be looting and fires within minutes. | ||
| There's a societal breakdown that's going to happen immediately in the United States should anything like this happen. | ||
| Now, as an expert on the topic, I'm going to bring in noted weirdo Matt Bracken, who's been yelling about a race war and the collapse of civilization for years. | ||
| Is a guest that goes on like red ice. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like he's a fucking lunatic weirdo. | ||
| So, of course, we'll get him in to talk about this public health situation. | ||
| I read an article from a researcher who was describing the work he did on basically like what happens in catastrophes. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| What happens in small size catastrophes. | ||
| And everybody who is poor, essentially. | ||
| Bands together, works together, respects everybody around them. | ||
| It's the rich people who are like, if we don't control these poor people, they're going to start burning and looting everything in seconds. | ||
| And they called it elite panic. | ||
| And that was basically, he puts that towards so many different catastrophes that have happened and been like, see, this is how they fucked us. | ||
| Because they are so separate from the rest of humanity. | ||
| They just think we're... | ||
| We're all subspecies of humans. | ||
| It's kind of an interesting perspective. | ||
| I mean, people whose primary function is to survive often would view it as collaborative. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| You and I, if we were in an emergency, let's say we don't know each other, we probably could do better surviving together than if we fought each other for whatever we need to survive. | ||
| That's literally how we got to this point. | ||
| But people who have... | ||
| You know, much more to protect. | ||
| They aren't so interested in the survival. | ||
| They're interested in the maintaining of whatever they have after the crisis is over. | ||
| And if that means hundreds of thousands of people die and they're fine. | ||
| They don't really care. | ||
| As long as they don't have to kill them themselves. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because then they'd feel bad. | ||
| They'd feel terrible. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't read those things that you're referencing, but it seems to make some intuitive sense based on some of the stuff I've seen. | ||
| Yeah, the term he used was elite panic. | ||
| It's really interesting to read. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| So Alex gets to talking. | ||
| I mean, he doesn't mention the Iowa caucuses. | ||
| Surprise. | ||
| But I mean, you know, he doesn't have a horse in the race, really. | ||
| So he's not as interested in that as it were. | ||
| But he does touch on the Democratic primary a tiny bit. | ||
| And he has a really interesting perspective that I think is self-contradictory. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Sanders surges. | ||
| Biden plateaus. | ||
| That's why they're getting ready to go after Sanders. | ||
| They already stole the nomination from him a few years ago. | ||
| Now they're back to do it again. | ||
| The same leftist authoritarian. | ||
| So that's all coming up. | ||
| Here's where Alex is going to run into trouble with his entire premise. | ||
| Sanders is also supposed to be a leftist authoritarian in the InfoWars universe. | ||
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| So now you have the leftist authoritarian DNC, Democratic establishment, who's trying to screw over Bernie Sanders for some reason, although he is also a leftist authoritarian. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He now has to explain why that's the case. | ||
| There's a schism between the leftist authoritarian. | ||
| But why is it the case that the democratic establishment, which is really just the globalists who are trying to push socialism in order to lead to communism and then authoritarianism and then rounding up Alex and his friends. | ||
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| If that is their goal, why would they screw over a democratic socialist who's running for president? | ||
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It doesn't make sense. | |
| If they're trying to usher in a socialist dystopia... | ||
| This is their only shot. | ||
| Why would they go after the only socialist in the fucking race? | ||
| Who happens to be incredibly popular. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| And he doesn't really spend any time trying to break it down. | ||
| It's because he's established in the past this anti-DNC, anti-democratic establishment. | ||
| Talking point in this narrative that they screwed over Sanders in 2016. | ||
| It's already in the Infowars canon in terms of talking points, in terms of things the audience believes and accepts. | ||
| And so, because of that, he's trying to go back to the well for that, not recognizing that it makes no sense. | ||
| And he'll never have to explain it. | ||
| It is interesting to me that the right has kind of accidentally made Sanders the only candidate. | ||
| That the hard right would find palatable on the left. | ||
| Tulsi, baby! | ||
| By accidentally praising him so much in the last election, they can't then... | ||
| Because you can always just pull up a clip where they were stealing it because he has good ideas and all that shit. | ||
| They were trying to mask the outright anti-Hillary stuff that they were perpetuating by praising Sanders in the 2016 primary. | ||
| And that would optically come back to hurt them, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| Hypocrisy doesn't matter. | ||
| You're just like, I didn't mean that. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I'm just saying that as a general sense of priming people, everybody was primed to hate Hillary Clinton, and they accidentally primed them to be far more apathetic to Sanders. | ||
| On the right, perhaps. | ||
| It's an interesting thought. | ||
| I don't know if it's true or applicable at all. | ||
| I'm not sure either. | ||
| So, anyway, Alex is selling stuff that'll help you in an emergency, like the one that he is yelling about in the coronavirus. | ||
| Surprise. | ||
| And, you know, he's got his items. | ||
| He's also got food. | ||
| He's also got masks to help you. | ||
| You know, we had thousands of masks, antiviral masks and others. | ||
| We always sell them something people need in their emergency kits. | ||
| We left it at sales price, sold out in one day last week. | ||
| We could have. | ||
| Made them cost you ten times more. | ||
| Amazon's selling single masks for like $100. | ||
| We didn't do that because I'm an opportunist. | ||
| From everything I could tell, Amazon is not price gouging surgical masks. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| I just checked and there's one, you can get a 50 pack for $17.99. | ||
| There's another brand with a 125 pack for $89.75. | ||
| I have no idea what Alex is talking about, but I assume he's just imagining that Amazon jacked up their prices to gouge people and that he's the noble hero because he didn't do the thing that Amazon also didn't do. | ||
| I imagine that it's possible that some resellers on Amazon might have gouged prices, but I see no evidence of that when I was looking over things. | ||
| Did you try and buy one individual mask, though? | ||
| See? | ||
| What's interesting, though, is that even if they did do that, the structure of Amazon almost guarantees that their gouging strategy wouldn't work. | ||
| The only way gouging works is if there's a scarcity of options. | ||
| You need to be selling something that people can't easily get from someone else. | ||
| But the way the Amazon marketplace works assures that there will almost always be someone else selling the thing you're trying to gouge the price of, which will likely lead to no one buying your price-inflated shit to begin with. | ||
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Right. | |
| It almost has a built-in safety from that. | ||
| It doesn't always work, but it's fairly effective. | ||
| Amazon was criticized after Hurricane Irma in 2017 when things like bottled water were posted with very high prices. | ||
| There were clear instances of price gouging. | ||
| This was not Amazon's doing. | ||
| It was the work of third-party vendors who use Amazon to sell their items. | ||
| In response to this, Amazon took action to be more proactive against vendors who engage in these sorts of practices. | ||
| But honestly, given Alex's alleged political philosophy, he should not have a problem with price gouging, specifically on Amazon. | ||
| For him to be against price gouging on Amazon, here's what he has to believe. | ||
| You have a business that sells a product. | ||
| They want to have access to more potential buyers, so they use a platform like Amazon to cast a wide net. | ||
| It's basically like an advertising wave. | ||
| For Alex to believe that price gouging is wrong, he has to believe that it's appropriate for the platform, Amazon, to be able to dictate the price at which this business is able to sell its own product. | ||
| That's nowhere near a free market position. | ||
| The libertarian position, generally speaking, is very pro-price gouging. | ||
| To give you some idea of their take on it, the Mies Institute published a piece in 2017 right after Irma titled, quote, There's nothing moral about opposing price gouging, with price gouging in quotes as if to imply it's silly to think it's a real thing. | ||
| There was definitely more than one article published by the Mies Institute defending price gouging in September 2017, which I think is... | ||
| Really awesome. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| They're great people. | ||
| I was done with libertarians after I heard their argument for why blackmail is fine. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You have a choice. | ||
| It's a free market. | ||
| You can choose to be blackmailed or not. | ||
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| Like, oh, okay. | ||
| Well, then we're done. | ||
| This article argues that anti-gouging rules disrupt the natural process of supply and demand, and it's actually immoral to levy fines or jail time on someone for, quote, selling their own property at whatever price they want. | ||
| I'm not immoral. | ||
| You're immoral! | ||
| Alex Jones, for years, has pretended to be a libertarian, and he fetishizes the imaginary free market, but he fails to understand, like, even the basic aspects of this belief system he claims to have. | ||
| he actually believed the shit he pretends to, he'd have to openly denounce the Civil Rights Act, support child labor, and if he follows the Meese school, he'd have to believe that, quote, a parent does not have the right to aggress against his child, but also that the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the rights, the parent of his | ||
| The parent, therefore, may not murder or mutilate his child, but the law properly outlaws a parent from doing so. | ||
| But the parent should have the legal right to not feed the child, i.e. | ||
| to allow it to die. | ||
| That is directly from the Institute's write-up on children and rights. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's a... | ||
| Let's just get rid of libertarian and say they're fascists but weirdos. | ||
| They're not the mainstream fascists. | ||
| They're just weird fascists. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Alex took on the label of libertarian, never really considering the completely fucked up things that are entailed by applying its primary beliefs to real world situations. | ||
| And in that sense, he's never really been a libertarian. | ||
| He's been a libertarian in the same way that that guy you knew in college who liked weed too much to be on the right but was a little too racist to swing with the left was. | ||
| That's where we're at. | ||
| That's the Ron Paul libertarian. | ||
| Well, yeah, but they all want libertarianism for other people and they want socialism for them. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Alex is not interested in first principles or actual philosophy of belief. | ||
| He's interested in selling. | ||
| And when your primary motivation runs in that direction, it's best not to have positions that alienate and disgust most right-thinking people. | ||
| Like, in a disaster, it's your right to price gouge, even if you're watching people die who you could have saved. | ||
| Right, there is that. | ||
| My point here is that most libertarian beliefs are insane and very unpopular with most of the public, and even Alex knows that. | ||
| I would almost admire him more if he got on air and he was like, it's crisis time, I have what you need and the price is going the fuck up. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| While at the same time saying he would never price cash. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Leave that shit aside. | ||
| Like, take just the libertarian stance that you, like, free market shit that you pretend to believe in and just be like, I have what you need. | ||
| Pay up, suckers. | ||
| Like, that would be at least in line with his beliefs. | ||
| But you know the reason he can't do that is because he's also artificially, like, trying to create a demand. | ||
| He has the hard work of trying to create this panic in his audience and his fear that leads to an inflation of demand. | ||
| And if he were to be like, I have the supply, suck it, it would kind of hurt his ability to do that. | ||
| It might. | ||
| It might. | ||
| Honesty does not work in free market capitalism. | ||
| It's not the best. | ||
| So, Alex said that Matt Bracken was going to be coming in to talk about this here disaster. | ||
| And before he gets to it, Matt Braggen gives a little bit of a shout-out to a group that he's, I guess, fans of. | ||
| Also, just for a moment, if you can indulge me, I want to give a shout-out to the Appalachian Battalion of the Mossy Oak Militia. | ||
| No. | ||
| This is our secret, one of our secret ritual recognition signs right here, okay? | ||
| You can get a picture of that. | ||
| The Mossy Oak Militia. | ||
| Anyway, I happen to be wearing this today. | ||
| Anyway, it's kind of an inside joke among people that like to shoot in the woods. | ||
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What a fucking dork. | |
| So the Mossy Oak Militia is a name that pops up a bit in forums on AR15.com. | ||
| And from what I can tell, I'm not sure it's a real group. | ||
| It seems like a name that's thrown around to denote someone who seeks to embody the vibe of a guy wearing camo. | ||
| In one post discussing the upcoming, at that point, Virginia gun rally from January 20th, the poster discusses how it would be a coming together of, quote, businessmen slash professionals, the local boy in blue jeans and a t-shirt, the FUD in his coveralls and a straw hat, the Mossy Oak militia and the tactical gear guys. | ||
| It seems to me that this is just sort of a designation for right-wing cosplayers who put on fatigues for rallies. | ||
| I might be wrong in that Bracken is actually talking about a real group, and if so, that's even more fucked up, since that means that Alex is allowing a guest on his show to shout out a private militia. | ||
| That's probably not the case. | ||
| I think this is just a dumb old man meme. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's just a dorky meme asshole. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Matt Bracken is a guy. | ||
| I mean, look, here's all we need to really know about him. | ||
| Mustache. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The end. | ||
| Piece of shit. | ||
| I mean, he likes guns. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So anyway, he's not a doctor. | ||
| He has no... | ||
| What a surprise! | ||
| He has no experience in public health or anything like that. | ||
| But nonetheless, Alex wants his expert opinion on this coronavirus. | ||
| From your own research, do you think it's man-made? | ||
| Do you think it escaped from a lab? | ||
| Do you think it's a natural mutation? | ||
| Why is it being hyped up? | ||
| I mean, gut level, what do you think this virus is? | ||
| I think at a huge pandemic like this today, you know, it almost is a moot point whether it's natural or man-made because I don't understand why that's true. | ||
| We never really know the truth. | ||
| There's never going to be a record that comes out that everybody believes. | ||
| What? | ||
| Cop out! | ||
| Bullshit! | ||
| It's a moot point. | ||
| Cop out! | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| It should be pointed out that Matt Bracken's research into the coronavirus is completely meaningless. | ||
| Even according to his own self-rate and bio, there's literally no reason to take anything he says about biology or health seriously. | ||
| According to his bio, he has an undergraduate degree in Russian studies, which he got back in 1979. | ||
| And he was a Navy SEAL for a while, and then in 1993, he built a boat. | ||
| Russian studies, there's the Northern Lights in Russia, Corona, boom, coronavirus. | ||
| I'm there. | ||
| And he made a boat. | ||
| See, we got it. | ||
| There's nothing in his background that really makes him qualified to speak on whether or not a coronavirus is man-made, which makes him the perfect guest for Alex to ask that question to. | ||
| They aren't interested in reality or analysis. | ||
| They're interested in extreme weirdos saying sensational things to drive sales. | ||
| That's all that's going on. | ||
| I went to a wedding in Maine, and it was held at this summer camp place where religious kids would go. | ||
| And I remember this incredibly striking scene where the woman who works there is making a fire. | ||
| She works there. | ||
| She makes fires. | ||
| Every night, every summer for her entire tenure there. | ||
| And she's trying to make this fire and four different dudes are walking in there and like, hey, how about you try using some newspaper and shit like that? | ||
| And it's like that aggressive white dude expertise in nothing. | ||
| And yet still the confidence to be like, and I know how to solve the coronavirus problem. | ||
| Yeah, Matt Bracken embodies that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| But he made a boat. | ||
| Ah, shit. | ||
| He's got more boats than me. | ||
| So Alex asked if this is man-made or real, naturally occurring. | ||
| It's a moot point because no one will ever agree on it. | ||
| I really don't think that's a moot point. | ||
| Well, Bracken elaborates on that a little bit. | ||
| There's always going to be theories that are competing. | ||
| So I would say, you know, sure, it could be snake to bat to man, or it could be the Canadian bio research lab to Wuhan bio chem lab or research lab. | ||
| And then it gets out, you know, it infects somebody in the lab and they go home and it gets out that way. | ||
| But I don't think we'll ever know definitively. | ||
| There aren't competing theories. | ||
| There's science, and then there's a load of bullshit that Alex and Bracken throw around to spread fear and sell their shit. | ||
| This is a really dishonest framing device that Matt Bracken's using, where there's an insistence that dumb, completely baseless stuff that's discussed on Infowars is exactly the same as the work researchers at the CDC are doing. | ||
| There's literally no difference to them between the head of the World Health Organization and John fucking Rappaport. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, this is ridiculous. | ||
| They are competing theories. | ||
| One is a theory. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And the other is bullshit. | ||
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| Well, I think we need to teach the controversy, Dan. | ||
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Teach the controversy. | |
| I think that's the situation. | ||
| Nobody will ever know whether evolution is a thing that happens. | ||
| It's impossible to have a... | ||
| I mean, that is the, like, just... | ||
| Put on a completely universal scale, what he's saying. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's like, hey, you know what? | ||
| Like, yes. | ||
| There are people who are taking this very seriously. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I saw a meme. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We are the same. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We are the same. | ||
| So this guy has worked in this sort of, I don't know, virology field for his entire life. | ||
| He's got several PhDs. | ||
| I built a boat. | ||
| I think you've got something to say, my brother. | ||
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| Awesome. | ||
| So they get down to talking about like, hey, we had a real issue here, man. | ||
| Why hasn't Trump stopped travel from China? | ||
| The UN has said it's a global emergency, but doesn't want travel restricted. | ||
| But most countries are restricting travel. | ||
| So why hasn't Trump done that yet? | ||
| We'll answer that question as best we can. | ||
| On the other side, it's Friday. | ||
| We're live. | ||
| We've discussed this in the past, but suffice it to say that experts do not agree with Alex and his assertions that shutting down travel is the best way to practice containment of an outbreak. | ||
| It's pretty well understood in the academic community, which is why when you hear people who are insistent that travel should be shut down, it's a pretty fair assumption to make that they're either not very informed or they just want travel shut down for other reasons. | ||
| And this is as good an excuse as any. | ||
| It's almost, it's very Hegelian, if you will. | ||
| Interestingly, Trump has not stopped all travel to and from China, probably because the experts know that this would not have the desired result. | ||
| Screening and procedures are the way to go. | ||
| In that scenario, all the people who come in and out of the country are unaccounted for and completely unknown variables. | ||
| When you leave travel open, you're able to monitor people coming in the country and track people who are suspected of having the condition, and you can even isolate them if you need to. | ||
| You give up literally all of that possibility if you shut down travel, and you in no way guarantee that people aren't still going to be coming across borders. | ||
| So it's something that people... | ||
| That's only one of the factors that... | ||
| And you've got to consider how much it would disrupt economics if Trump stopped all travel from China. | ||
| It'll be a gigantic thing to do. | ||
| No, he'll just use this as an excuse to add more non-white countries to the travel ban. | ||
| See, now that is interesting. | ||
| He did have time to do that. | ||
| He did strangely have time to shut down travel between non-white countries. | ||
| I'm not sure that the... | ||
| I don't know if I heard it framed as like the coronavirus has anything to do with him adding those countries. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| So it's not like he's using it as an excuse to do that, but he sure seems to be Fine with stopping some travel. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| And to be fair, it's not actually travel. | ||
| That is inaccurate, because the people from those countries can still... | ||
| As I understand, the article that I read was saying that they can still apply for, like, visitor... | ||
| Immigration is being stopped from Nigeria, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, and Myanmar. | ||
| And the people from Sudan and Tanzania will not be allowed to apply for lottery visas. | ||
| So, you know, you're still creeping towards this thing. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| But not interested in... | ||
| Stopping travel from China. | ||
| And he did it on news days that could not handle adding a travel ban fury to the whole situation. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| So Alex talks a little bit about the impeachment stuff, and he's pretty convinced that they're going to vote to acquit that evening. | ||
| Friday evening, the 31st. | ||
| That's pretty standard of his position. | ||
| It's interesting because he doesn't really have much to add to the entire thing, but he does try to rewrite his own history. | ||
| Why the hell did Trump hire him? | ||
| We warned him. | ||
| He's trying to sink Trump right now as they try to get witnesses, which will be Bolton. | ||
| So Alex is trying to say that he warned Trump not to hire Bolton. | ||
| Warned him about Bolton. | ||
| Steve Pchenik did. | ||
| Alex argued with Steve Pchenik that Bolton would be an apparatchik and he would do Trump's bidding. | ||
| He knew his way around the swamp, and so he would be a really useful tool, because that's what Roger Stone had told Alex. | ||
| Presumably, I don't even know if this is true, but it's been discussed on Infowars, that Roger Stone and John Bolton play poker together. | ||
| I have no fucking idea if that's even true, or just some shit talk. | ||
| But Roger was like, no, no, John Bolton's cool. | ||
| Alex went that way. | ||
| Steve Pchenik was the dissenting voice, who is now, Alex is trying to pretend, oh yeah, we listened to him all along. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| We said don't hire Bolton. | ||
| No, you didn't. | ||
| You rationalized it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Dick. | ||
| And yeah, whether they play poker or not, we all know Stone has rat-fucked his way up to Bolton sooner or later. | ||
| Undoubtedly. | ||
| They definitely know each other. | ||
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| Steve and Bolton. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm not sure I believe that one. | ||
| But yeah, Roger for sure. | ||
| So in much the same way, the news couldn't handle incorporating this immigration crackdown thing in that news cycle because there's so much breaking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex can't handle his own show either, because there's breaking news in the middle of this episode. | ||
| And this just broke. | ||
| Mar-a-Lago gate crashed, shots fired. | ||
| That's being reported by WSVN 7 News. | ||
| Had someone try to wham through, and shots fired. | ||
| There have been an incident in Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump's property in Palm Beach, or his winner in White House, Florida, according to a local news report involving gate crashing and shots being fired. | ||
| WSVN News 7 reported the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office sources said there was an incident at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach. | ||
| It just happened 30 minutes ago. | ||
| Someone ran the northern checkpoint near the property. | ||
| The deputies fired at this person. | ||
| The journalists said on the air, Secret Service officials have fired at the person as well. | ||
| The person who sources believe is a woman was still able to get away. | ||
| Officials are saying the person ran from the scene and is still out there. | ||
| And is it somebody off their medication? | ||
| That's happened before. | ||
| Or is it a psycho? | ||
| Trying to kill the president or trying to attack him. | ||
| I mean, I physically have had people you've seen attack me. | ||
| You can tell by the way Alex is reporting this, it's a story that he wants to be about someone attacking Donald Trump. | ||
| You can tell because there's no information available to him at this point, but he's trying to decide how to portray it. | ||
| He gets editorial choice in the direction we take this, and he's like, well, it could be someone off their meds, but people have been attacking me. | ||
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| In reality, this was a case of an impaired driver driving very erratically and dangerously near Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| All of the shots that were fired were fired at the driver, and there's no reason to think that she was trying to even get into Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| According to ABC News, she, quote, blew through two checkpoints but did not enter Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| The sheriff, Alex's favorite kind of lawman, even said, quote, this is not a terrorist thing. | ||
| It all began when officers were called to the scene where a woman was reported as, quote, dancing on top of a car several miles away from Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| When the cops came, she fled, and the cops followed, coincidentally heading towards Mar-a-Lago just by coincidence. | ||
| She was driving on the wrong side of the road and flew through checkpoints, so I guess the police decided to open fire on her car. | ||
| She managed to get away and fled to a motel, but police had been following, and they arrested her there. | ||
| Honestly, this is a story that in another time, Alex would be covering as clear evidence of horrible police state shit. | ||
| Let's imagine it's 2009 and this woman is a nice white Ron Paul supporter who just wanted to have a good time dancing on her car. | ||
| You can see how this entire story would be played completely differently. | ||
| But now, every story is told through the prism of nationalists and Alex's weirdo community being under attack. | ||
| A story that has literally no details on it is being told with speculation that it's an attack on Trump because that is what he wants it to be. | ||
| If this is an attack on Trump, he can yell about it for the next year, like the Scalise shooting. | ||
| He can use it as evidence that the left is violent and trying to kill all conservatives. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But it's not. | ||
| It was a drunk lady driving erratically and the cops decided to shoot at her. | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to go with every part of this story should be blamed on the cops. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She was just dancing, man. | ||
| She's having a grand old time. | ||
| I think that you probably... | ||
| Granted. | ||
| I don't know all the details either. | ||
| But from the details I was able to glean, it doesn't seem like she handled the situation very well. | ||
| No, it doesn't seem like that. | ||
| It does not merit shooting at her car. | ||
| No, it really doesn't. | ||
| It really, really, really doesn't. | ||
| She made some bad choices the police made. | ||
| It seems like worse choices. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whatever the case has, little to do with Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| It's really just a coincidence. | ||
| Anyway, later in the show, Alex gets an update on this. | ||
| And he gets some more of the details. | ||
| But it really still feels like he wants to push this as a Trump's under attack. | ||
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As an assassination. | |
| This could have just been somebody that was going the wrong way and not paying attention. | ||
| They could have been drinking and could have been driven in and driven out. | ||
| And then you do that in a secure area like that, you're going to get shot at. | ||
| That's sad, but there's going to be collateral damage in a climate where they're saying Trump is literally Hitler. | ||
| And having a nation is Hitler. | ||
| And then the only person with any connection to Hitler we see is George Soros, who literally was a Nazi collaborator and said it was the best time of his life, and then he finances a whole network saying Trump is Hitler. | ||
| You kind of get the sense there that the narrative he's more interested in telling is the one where this is an example of blowback from Soros funding everybody to tell them Trump's Hitler. | ||
| So, I mean, you get it. | ||
| I'm pretty sure we have some more connections to Hitler in the White House. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So, Jordan, I told you one of my favorite big brags is going to be on this episode, and it's coming up in this next clip. | ||
| Then we got something really fun. | ||
| Then we got something really stupid. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's the syllabus for the next little while on our show. | ||
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All right. | |
| So get excited for some... | ||
| What I'm saying is have some fun while you can. | ||
| Because we're going to end with nightmares. | ||
| Here is Alex Jones' Big Brag. | ||
| You know, I'm not bragging, but I was actually on the road to being like a top voiceover guy. | ||
| I mean, I was voicing major trailers, stuff for films, TV ads, insurance company commercials. | ||
| But as soon as... | ||
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When? | |
| You're the Alex Jones criticizing Obama. | ||
| Right when Obama got in. | ||
| I mean, I made one year $890,000. | ||
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What? | |
| Because I was in the half-time, you know, the whole... | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| ...the whole deal for voiceovers. | ||
| And so it would go through that. | ||
| And a lot of this place got built on voiceover money. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| As soon as I criticized Obama, like a spigot, the jobs went off. | ||
| So, according to ZipRecruiter, the national average salary annually for a working voiceover artist is $65,000. | ||
| Only 7% of working VO people make over $198,000 a year. | ||
| And these would be your big names in the field. | ||
| The idea that Alex Jones made $890,000 in a year doing voiceover work is laughable. | ||
| None of the stories about him discussing his early years in public access or local Austin radio, none of them mention his ridiculously explosive voiceover career. | ||
| There aren't credits to his name from that period that you can find, which would be the case if he'd done any work in films or TV. | ||
| They keep records for that long. | ||
| They don't just stop. | ||
| By the time Obama was elected, Alex was already years into being a pretty widely known lunatic. | ||
| He put out his Bohemian Grove film in 2000, and after 9-11, he was cemented in his images of a 9-11 conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Alex wants the image to be that he criticized Obama and lost about a million dollars a year in his side hustle, because the only real currency in right-wing media is victimhood. | ||
| He needs you to think that he's been oppressed for his political positions, but unfortunately, he's making all of this up, so the figures that he comes up with just sound comical. | ||
| If Alex made $800,000 in a year doing voiceovers, he would have legitimately been one of the top people in the field. | ||
| Like, I can't stress this enough. | ||
| There would have been so many pieces about him in trade magazines. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He would have been the talk of the town. | ||
| And it's not, like, now voiceover is primarily funded by video games. | ||
| He's, you know, like, you're not making $190,000 pre-2008. | ||
| You might if you got big ad campaigns. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| But a lot of those are... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, John DiMaggio isn't making $800,000 a year, and he's one of the best. | ||
| I bet he is. | ||
| I bet he is. | ||
| I bet he's making even more than that. | ||
| I genuinely doubt it. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| I have a little bit... | ||
| Look, Futurama DVDs aren't going as hot as they used to. | ||
| Still, he's got deals. | ||
| I'm not saying that Alex doesn't have some skills with voiceover, just that the only places I believe he's practiced this art are in his own films and InfoWars commercials. | ||
| Because there's a little trade secret that I know from my time trying to get into voiceovers, dudes with voices like mine and Alex's are not in high demand. | ||
| It's a super competitive area of the market, because there's already a ton of very established voice actors with deepish, gruff voices. | ||
| So even if Alex did have a decent voice, no one would care. | ||
| He'd be guy number 5000 who fits that mold, and in order to get any work, he'd need a really good voiceover agent, and he'd have to be working on it full-time. | ||
| Sending out sample audition tapes for scripts, it would be... | ||
| Such an intense process for him to break in with the voice that he has. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| The picture that Alex is painting depicts a reality that does not exist. | ||
| He was the number one voiceover talent in the world until he criticized Obama and had it all taken away from him. | ||
| It's such horseshit. | ||
| Also, it's pretty funny to imagine that someone with the political beliefs that Alex has would ever join the fucking screen actors guild. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| There's plenty of non-union work you can get in voiceovers, so that wouldn't even be a necessary thing for him to do. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| Just complete shit. | ||
| Yeah, I don't remember him in any early 2000s anime, which is... | ||
| The dubs would be where you're going there. | ||
| I bet... | ||
| That he did do some local commercials. | ||
| Oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| And especially because he was working in public access radio. | ||
| I know from my time when I interned at a radio station, a lot of the radio commercials, the voiceovers were done by the DJs. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| At the radio station, and they got kicked a couple bucks. | ||
| Yeah, they worked all morning and then recorded a couple of promos after their show, and then they went home. | ||
| I could see Alex doing a little bit of that, but $890,000 in a fucking year. | ||
| No. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Or... | ||
| Show me. | ||
| Show me your text returns. | ||
| Show me some credits at least. | ||
| Yeah, I would love some sort of proof of that, because if so, that's a crazy story. | ||
| So Alex has been trying to latch on to whatever conspiracies are floating around about the coronavirus outbreak in order to cause panic. | ||
| Right, chicken. | ||
| Some of them are real stupid. | ||
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Chicken. | |
| But none of them have been like... | ||
| Real laughable. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| Chicken vaccine is pretty laughable stupid. | ||
| It is once you get down to what that patent was. | ||
| It's not on its face. | ||
| This one. | ||
| Right in front of you. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| There was an article. | ||
| Welcome back to the Alex Jones Show. | ||
| Last week, Shane, meet the real Umbrella Corporation. | ||
| And... | ||
| I'm not a huge Resident Evil fan. | ||
| I am a fan of that Eastern European chick, whatever her name is. | ||
| I've seen a couple of them. | ||
| And it's about an evil corporation. | ||
| It's called Irrelevant, really. | ||
| It's the Red Cross of the secret societies. | ||
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Cool, cool. | |
| Rosicrucian? | ||
| Rosy Cross? | ||
| Got it. | ||
| Because the Red Cross is actually the oldest operating intelligence agency. | ||
| ...operating secret society that's ever been. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There are some that are older. | ||
| They're just not continually operating. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Of course. | |
| So everybody's like, yeah, this is like the Umbrella Corporation. | ||
| And then my buddy Shane Steiner sent me this image. | ||
| If you're a TV viewer, you can see it. | ||
| And it says Umbrella Corporation. | ||
| Overhead shot if we could. | ||
| That'd be awesome. | ||
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Thanks. | |
| The actual research laboratory where this happened has the exact same symbol, but instead of red and gray, it's green and gray. | ||
| I mean, it's the exact same symbol. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, that's got to be a joke. | ||
| And then Corona translates to Raccoon City. | ||
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Oh my God. | |
| Corona translates to Raccoon City. | ||
| We'll get to that in a second. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't want to get too deep into the lore of Resident Evil, particularly because the games and the movies diverge a little bit. | ||
| And honestly, I can't keep shit straight in my head. | ||
| The whole which game is which. | ||
| Later on, she becomes a clone fighting. | ||
| Oh, it's wild. | ||
| Look, what's important here, other than Alex being attracted to Mila Jovovich... | ||
| There's a meme going around where a facility has a logo similar to the Umbrella Corporation's logo. | ||
| And that has convinced some dum-dums that it must mean that this real-world lab is creating a bioweapon, much like the Umbrella Corporation did with the T-virus in Resident Evil. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I can't find any flaws in that theory. | ||
| It's one-to-one. | ||
| Eight leads to B. I mean, and what really just hammers it home is Corona translates to Raccoon City. | ||
| That's too obvious. | ||
| That's too obvious. | ||
| The meme that went around was claiming that this place, with the Resident Evil style logo, was the Wuhan Institute of Virology. | ||
| But it clearly says, if you look at the uncropped image, Shanghai on the front of the building. | ||
| That's because it's actually a biotech lab in Shanghai, which is about 500 miles away from Wuhan. | ||
| Also, Snopes looked into it, and it doesn't even appear that this biotech lab in Shanghai is even open anymore. | ||
| Seems like it's gone out of business. | ||
| Geek Culture, the website, posted an article about this lab having a logo similar to the Umbrella Corporation in June of last year. | ||
| And in the same article, they discuss a skincare clinic in Vietnam having an identical logo to Umbrella, even down to the colors. | ||
| And there's actually even another article about that skincare company in Vietnam from 2017 about it. | ||
| The part there at the end, Alex is misunderstanding another meme when he says that you translate Corona to raccoon. | ||
| In reality, the meme is that Corona is an anagram of raccoon. | ||
| Oh, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Which is the name of the city where there's the outbreak in Resident Evil, Raccoon City. | ||
| One major, major problem with this theory is that if you look at the words, you might notice that raccoon has two C's in it, whereas Corona does not. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Which kind of makes this a dumb anagram, or some might say, not an anagram. | ||
| And to be clear, the spelling with two C's of raccoon is canon. | ||
| In Resident Evil. | ||
| That is how it's spelled in the game. | ||
| This is super, super stupid. | ||
| But also, it's really important to point out things like this. | ||
| Alex is taking the time to cover this dumb meme shit as if it means anything. | ||
| This is the level of analysis and insight he brings to his work, and it's so sad. | ||
| He's had idiots like Mike Adams coming on to say things like this. | ||
| It's over for humanity. | ||
| There will only be lone survivors. | ||
| Because of the outbreak, humanity is over, and he's so desperate to blame his imagined enemies for this that he sinks to this level of shitheadery, pretending dumb hoax memes some idiot posted online are worth anyone's time. | ||
| This is the best work Alex can do, because he's not even trying anymore. | ||
| He doesn't do any research, he doesn't prepare anything outside of his show, he just shows up and gets mad at a picture of fucking Adam Schiff and pretends it's not the show. | ||
| All of his information comes from dumb memes and headlines he reads on websites run by his employees who have zero editorial standards and tend to just make shit up. | ||
| And so, this is what you get for the show. | ||
| Dumb memes presented his research and Alex yelling about his feelings. | ||
| It's sad. | ||
| It's sad that anyone doesn't... | ||
| I don't care if his audience is 20,000 people. | ||
| The idea that there is anybody who doesn't see through this is very sad to me. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| I remember playing collaborative storytelling games online when I was like 16, 17, going to Angel Fire websites. | ||
| What if we had banned adults from using it back then? | ||
| It was our little secret club. | ||
| Adults were like, I don't understand this internet culture. | ||
| We'd just get rid of them and then no memes like this. | ||
| I don't think that would work. | ||
| No, probably not. | ||
| They'd still be sending chain letters. | ||
| So this is dumb. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This is very dumb. | ||
| It's super dumb. | ||
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Raccoon. | |
| Corona. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Not quite. | ||
| Translate. | ||
| Logo. | ||
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Proof. | |
| Not good. | ||
| See, I thought Corona meant crown, but I guess I was way off. | ||
| So Alex is like, this logo. | ||
| Why would they use that logo? | ||
| Why in the hell would they have that symbol? | ||
| Now, I've got to look it up. | ||
| I spent like 10 minutes this morning and couldn't find when they got that logo. | ||
| But it appears the company and the logo comes after Resident Evil. | ||
| Why would you pick the Resident Evil symbol of the Evil Global Corporation? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because it's famous? | ||
| This is big. | ||
| This is big. | ||
| It's not big. | ||
| There are a hundred possible reasons for that lab to use that symbol similar to the Resident Evil one. | ||
| Off the top of my head, the owner thinks he's a fan of Resident Evil. | ||
| Or the owner doesn't know about Resident Evil and just thinks it looks cool. | ||
| Or the owner wanted to troll idiots like Alex. | ||
| There are a lot of possibilities, but there's one thing that I'm confident about. | ||
| It's that this is not huge, and Alex is not about to crack this case. | ||
| Also, does Alex think that people shouldn't be able to use certain logos because they're associated with fictitious villains? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Real free speech hero over here. | ||
| When was the last time he saw anybody use a golden gun? | ||
| That's been retired. | ||
| Does he want the state to be able to exert control over a business owner's First Amendment rights to use whatever iconography they want? | ||
| Also, does this extend to countless products that are marketed with depictions of the Christian devil? | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| If so, a lot of hot sauces are going to be fucking gone. | ||
| Why would they use the devil? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would they use the devil? | ||
| Give me one good reason. | ||
| Also, how does this square with Alex constantly playing the Imperial March from Star Wars, which is the anthem of the bad guys? | ||
| You don't remember them being the heroes? | ||
| Shouldn't he be asking himself how the hell could a show open with the Star Wars bad guy theme music almost every day? | ||
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How the hell? | |
| Because John Williams is brilliant. | ||
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How the hell? | |
| Fucking dick. | ||
| That's pathetic. | ||
| How? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would they use... | ||
| How did fucking Resident Evil come up with a logo? | ||
| It's the same way. | ||
| Logos are hard to come up with. | ||
| You just start drawing shit and eventually you're like, I like this. | ||
| Why does he think this is important? | ||
| Because raccoon translates to corona, Dan. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| So Alex is operating off the... | ||
| Non-true piece of information that this logo is on a lab that is the Wuhan Virology Institute. | ||
| And so he's connecting a bunch of stuff together here. | ||
| And this is just sloppy shit. | ||
| Where this came from, a lot of experts believe, and shadowy groups tied to the U.S. military and tied to thefts in Canada of coronavirus genome, RNA, is now... | ||
| Being tracked back to this company. | ||
| And you've had four releases of coronaviruses before. | ||
| SARS is a coronavirus. | ||
| By Chinese labs. | ||
| I believe it's a raccoon virus. | ||
| The Post says, oh, you better not ask questions. | ||
| That's a conspiracy theory. | ||
| Well, here's Senator Cotton talking about it yesterday. | ||
| They also claimed for almost two months until earlier this week that it had originated in a seafood market in Wuhan. | ||
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That locals had contracted it from animals in, say, bat soup or snake tartare. | |
| That is not the case. | ||
| The Lancet published a study last weekend demonstrating that of the original 40 cases, 14 of them had no contact with the seafood market, including patient zero. | ||
| As one epidemiologist said, that virus went into the seafood market before it came out of the seafood market. | ||
| We still don't know where it originated. | ||
| Could have been another seafood market. | ||
| Could have been... | ||
| Could have been a food processing company. | ||
| I would note that Wuhan also has China's only biosafety level 4 super laboratory that works with the world's most deadly pathogens to include, yes, coronavirus. | ||
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| And he calls for shutting down all flights to the U.S. Smart. | ||
| If it's as deadly, as Lanz is saying, up to 15% death rate, which I don't believe. | ||
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What? | |
| You said it was 18% yesterday. | ||
| That clip is a muddled mess of bullshit. | ||
| We've got to disentangle a little bit of this. | ||
| First, like we talked about on the last episode, the Lancet study that Alex is referencing doesn't say that the coronavirus has a 15% mortality rate, just that among the 41 patients that were in their sample set who came from a pool of people who had pneumonia and tested positive for the virus, they had a 15% mortality rate. | ||
| That's not applicable to the general population in any way. | ||
| And it's good that Alex doesn't believe that there's a 15% mortality rate, but it's super dishonest to claim that Lancet is saying that. | ||
| Second, Alex is saying that this lab with the Resident Evil logo is the lab that Tom Cotton is mentioning in Wuhan, but it's not. | ||
| This is a lie being spread to make the Wuhan lab more suspicious as the source of the outbreak. | ||
| Alex is acting like it's weird that there would be a big bio lab in Wuhan, but come on. | ||
| It's a city of 11 million people. | ||
| It's not like it's some kind of a rural spot where it would be weird to see such a lab. | ||
| It makes total sense that it's there. | ||
| And no matter how many times he implies it, that lab is not the same one as the one in Shanghai, which probably doesn't even exist anymore. | ||
| Third, coronavirus was not stolen from a lab in Winnipeg in Canada and sent to Wuhan. | ||
| This is a lie that went around on right-wing media based on a CBC report that did not say even close to that. | ||
| So what you can see here is all this getting muddled up and mixed together to form some kind of a unified conspiracy theory. | ||
| It's not true that the scientists in Winnipeg sent coronavirus to Wuhan. | ||
| And it's not true that this lab with the Resident Evil logo is in Wuhan. | ||
| But when you combine them, it's now true that a Canadian scientist sent coronavirus to the Umbrella Corporation. | ||
| You see how that works? | ||
| It's pretty quick. | ||
| You form a unified theory. | ||
| Also, I said that he thinks... | ||
| When he said he doesn't think that it's 15%, I... | ||
| I think he means that it's like 40%. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I took that to mean he thinks it's lower. | ||
| I think so, but I think it's the opposite. | ||
| It's open to interpretation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Much like the Bible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| As for what Tom Cotton was saying in that clip, it's fair to say that it's still unclear exactly where the coronavirus came from. | ||
| Initially, there seemed to be a trend that a lot of patients had exposure to that seafood market. | ||
| So to quote Lancet, quote, exposure history to the Hunan seafood market, wholesale market, served as an important clue at the early stages, yet its value has decreased as more secondary and tertiary cases have appeared. | ||
| None of this means what Alex wants it to mean. | ||
| He's playing this clip to imply that the seafood market was a red herring that was deployed and that the lab in Wuhan must be the source of the outbreak. | ||
| But none of that's substantiated outside of Alex's guesses and implications that are not founded. | ||
| I just... | ||
| Stop blaming people for competence. | ||
| We're like, oh, well, we saw a bunch of people go to this market, so our first thought was, let's look into the market. | ||
| And then we found out that it wasn't the market, so now our thought is, let's find the other thing. | ||
| That's called doing your due diligence. | ||
| It is. | ||
| And stop thinking that trails that people go down that don't turn out to be correct are a cover-up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And don't... | ||
| Stop thinking that memes mean anything. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's so essential. | ||
| We're watching a literal cover-up, and you can see the opposite trend here. | ||
| They're trying to keep from interviewing people and seeing them and maybe going down the wrong hole. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, the voiceover was the big brag. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The Umbrella Corporation shit was the kind of fun, goofy, stupid thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now we get to the annoying. | ||
| Alex has another guest on the show. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Sometimes you see something. | ||
| No, don't. | ||
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| And that happened to me. | ||
| I woke up at 3.30 in the morning last night with all this stuff going on, drank some coffee, took a shower, went and walked around the local golf course that's next door. | ||
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| Came back about 5 a.m. and sat down with an iPad, had another cup of coffee, and I went to Infowars.com and saw a Kellen McBreen article he put out like, yeah, last night I'd missed. | ||
| And I watched it twice. | ||
| And believe me, I don't have 45 minutes to watch it 20-something minutes twice. | ||
| I watched it, and I was like, I got to get this guy on tomorrow, but there's all this huge breaking news. | ||
| But I said, this is important because what it illustrates for everybody. | ||
| It's like a skeleton key or a Rosetta Stone. | ||
| But I'm going to get Ezra Levant's take on the impeachment of Trump, the trial, the virus first in this segment. | ||
| Then we'll get to what we're talking about when we come back. | ||
| But, I mean, I don't have enough words to describe how these senior former federal police, now attached to another federal group, 30-year veteran Royal Mounties in their suits, sit there. | ||
| And act like something out of a movie about the old Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. | ||
| I mean, it's like that scene when Mr. Anderson in the first Matrix meets the Agent Smith. | ||
| I mean, I watched this and it's horrifying. | ||
| And then I went and read like hundreds of comments on YouTube. | ||
| I sat there. | ||
| And then, you know, my kids start waking up and coming in like 6.30. | ||
| I'm making them breakfast. | ||
| And they're like, what are you doing? | ||
| And I'm reading the comments. | ||
| Everyone sees what it is. | ||
| So, it looks like Ezra Levant is going to be a much more frequent presence on Alex's show, which is pretty interesting. | ||
| I guess shitheads got to stick together when times get tough. | ||
| For those who don't remember, Ezra Levant is the guy who runs Rebel Media, which employed all of the... | ||
| Real dickholes. | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say. | ||
| People like Lauren Southern, Katie Hopkins, Tommy Robinson. | ||
| All the shitbags. | ||
| Gavin McGinnis. | ||
| All these real, real cool people. | ||
| Also, Alex, that golf course is private property, man. | ||
| You should be respecting that. | ||
| There's a lot that's interesting about this clip, and I should probably explain what the context is. | ||
| But I think the most important takeaway, I think, is that Alex got caught up spending hours reading YouTube comments. | ||
| He's a 45-year-old man who pretends he does real research, and somehow he feels like YouTube comments are in any way a barometer of truth or public opinion. | ||
| That would legit be like me saying something Trump did was bad. | ||
| Then saying that I read a bunch of Twitter responses as proof of it and still trying to maintain that I was at all a serious person. | ||
| This is fucking sad. | ||
| I wonder what Carpe donked himself. | ||
| Also, super important point we don't bring up enough. | ||
| Alex gets up in the morning and checks out the news on his own website. | ||
| He's getting the news from people he pays to come up with bullshit. | ||
| This is the very definition of a vicious cycle. | ||
| Idiots post dumb shit on Alex's site. | ||
| Then he reads it and gets mad about it. | ||
| It's just such a lame way to live. | ||
| And no amount of walking around a golf course justifies that kind of... | ||
| That doesn't make up for it. | ||
| It's still very sad. | ||
| Yeah, there's a reason John Kelly was fighting to keep Infowars away from Trump. | ||
| I imagine we should get a John Kelly to keep Infowars away from Alex. | ||
| His dad should be doing that. | ||
| As for Ezra, I don't really care about his situation. | ||
| It's very clear what's going on. | ||
| What it is, is it has all the makings of a perfect right-wing victimhood narrative. | ||
| But it's just based on nothing. | ||
| So the situation is this. | ||
| Ezra released a book called Libtronos. | ||
| It's like liberal, but with Sopranos, it's a poor manto. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| Libranos? | ||
| Libranos? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, it's about Justin Trudeau being corrupt. | ||
| He released this book back in September 2019. | ||
| He can barely call this thing a book. | ||
| It's 124 pages. | ||
| So in the world of political exposés, it's pretty much a pamphlet. | ||
| Ronan Farrow didn't consult on this one? | ||
| Did not. | ||
| I'm surprised. | ||
| Regardless, this was a problem. | ||
| Because according to the Canadian Elections Act, what he did may have been a violation of election law. | ||
| According to the letter that Ezra posted on his website that he got about this, the Commissioner of Canadian Elections sent him a letter saying, quote, Right, | ||
| And in order to publish such materials in Canada, you have to register as a third-party election advertising entity. | ||
| right. | ||
| That's smart. | ||
| It kind of keeps shitholes like him from doing stuff like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When it comes to the publication of the book, it's particularly relevant whether or not the book was planned to be published, whether or not there was an election. | ||
| That's the central question, at least. | ||
| And the answer is obvious. | ||
| And this seems to be one of the central questions of why this letter was sent, informing Levant that an investigation was being opened. | ||
| Something that's probably not working in Levant's favor is that there is a clip of him that's referenced in his interview with these investigators where he specifically said that he wanted to get the book out for the election. | ||
| That makes it kind of clear that he was trying to do election advertising with the book. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Regardless, this is a polite letter. | ||
| It informs him that... | ||
| I read the whole thing. | ||
| It just informs him that he's welcome to cooperate or not, and if you'd like, he's invited to schedule an interview with the investigators. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| That letter was sent on December 9th, 2019, and apparently Levant just had that interview because he snuck a hidden camera in and recorded himself petulantly badgering the interviewers. | ||
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| What a dick! | ||
| It's a really sad look, but it's exactly the performance you need to really get that conservative victimhood juice flowing. | ||
| And I can see why Alex watched it multiple times. | ||
| It would be like crack to him. | ||
| I watched the whole video. | ||
| It's annoying. | ||
| And Ezra Levant comes off like a scam artist baby. | ||
| But also, he seems to be editing the footage to intentionally obscure an element of the case. | ||
| It seems like the interviewers are less interested in the publishing of the book, per se, and more interested in the advertising of the book. | ||
| If you write a book about Trudeau being corrupt, then advertise it with a ton of signs and posters everywhere, with Trudeau stylized as the Sopranos DVD cover, it's going to be indistinguishable from a flyer posted by a competing political party. | ||
| That seems to be where their interest lies, in how the fact that he wanted to get the book out before the election, and that his advertising materials were basically political advertisements. | ||
| That's the vibe that I get from their question. | ||
| And Levant is in a bad position in terms of trying to defend himself because based on the way the act is written, it's pretty clear that he's contravened the act. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| The bottom line is that there is a law that Levant is very likely in violation of. | ||
| It's a law that sounds weird to American ears, perhaps, but it's part of the Canadian election law. | ||
| And he has every reason to know that. | ||
| All you really need to know if you want to understand this is to watch the first two minutes of the video that he put out and Alex watched twice. | ||
| It's kind of a sizzle reel of him sassing the interviewers. | ||
| Then you get Levant talking to a camera, and he tells people that if they want to read the letter that the elections board sent him, they have to go to SaveRebelNews.com. | ||
| This website is just a fundraising website. | ||
| The top link is for people to send him Bitcoin. | ||
| It's all just Trudeau is trying to take me down, and then, quote, There's no way I could pay our free speech legal fees without the help of you and thousands of other supporters like you. | ||
| So if you use the form below, you can chip in whether it's $10, $100, or even more. | ||
| Man, I can't imagine somebody sending him Bitcoin. | ||
| That's like, one Bitcoin is like three grand still. | ||
| Send him.00001. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| This entire website, built around the video Alex is promoting. | ||
| of Levin being a baby in this interview is specifically about raising money for some imaginary free speech stand he's taken against Justin Trudeau. | ||
| This is textbook free speech grifting if there's ever been a case. | ||
| It looks like he's guilty of violating election law. | ||
| He's been warned that there might be a penalty for his actions, so instead of trying to start a movement to change this law, he's fundraising about his plight. | ||
| Overturning that law seems like a really dumb idea, because any billionaire who wanted to get around election regulations could just put out a half-cooked 124-page book to use as an excuse to put up a ton of unregulated election materials masquerading as book ads. | ||
| Oh man, it seems like regulation is really a good thing in this situation, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah, and I think we've seen in America what some of the consequences are of loosening up these... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Citizens United was great, Dan! | ||
| Ultimately... | ||
| Azar Levant is a loser little titty baby, and I have zero interest in his self-aggrievement play. | ||
| In his 25-minute video about this interview that he had with the elections people, he asks for money at least six times. | ||
| It's very clear he's treating this like a publicity stunt. | ||
| He's ultimately going to get hit with a nominal fine, probably, I would guess, based on the assessment I can see of the situation in front of us, but he's going to raise so much more money based on riling up conservative persecution feelings. | ||
| That's the entire play that's being done here. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| Can't we just... | ||
| Can't they take that? | ||
| Just take it. | ||
| Take the money that he raises as the fine. | ||
| Just all of it. | ||
| Here's your fine. | ||
| However much money you raise from this dumb website. | ||
| I wonder because... | ||
| Your fine is 50 Bitcoin, you asshole. | ||
| I wonder what the case is because I think that probably some of his actions might be further. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're hurting his case. | ||
| At least they definitely indicate malicious intent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But I don't know how those things would implicate the actual case. | ||
| I mean, I think based on just the information that's available from his edited video, the investigators have evidence that he's indicated he wanted to get the book out for the election. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that makes it so... | ||
| This is political advertising, which is against the Canada election. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It seems pretty open and shut. | ||
| I know, but as we know now, Dan, just because you go on TV and admit that you committed a crime doesn't mean that you can be punished for that crime or even accept responsibility for it at all. | ||
| It's upsetting the idea that he would be able to just waltz through this with no consequences, but he very well might. | ||
| Well, it is Canada, though, so they might give him consequences. | ||
| You say it's Canada. | ||
| Alex says it's America. | ||
| In this next clip, Alex is talking about Ezra LeVant's plight, and he accidentally says that this is America. | ||
| You watch. | ||
| They're going to charge him. | ||
| You can smell it. | ||
| They say, you're guilty. | ||
| You want to walk that back? | ||
| You just admitted you're guilty of writing a book during an election. | ||
| And Ezra LeVant's like, well, I've got the law here. | ||
| That's totally legal, right? | ||
| They go, you're going to jail. | ||
| This is America with cops in a room trying to hotbox somebody. | ||
| They smoke weed? | ||
| But it's over a book and it's like a sick parody, but it's not! | ||
| It's not America. | ||
| That's Canada. | ||
| I guess Alex believes that American sovereignty extends to white right-wing assholes in other countries, but that doesn't make it true. | ||
| If you're a white right-wing asshole, you are a citizen of Alex's United States. | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| Also, that letter that Ezra received from the elections commissioner was very explicit that this is not a criminal matter. | ||
| From the letter, quote, There's no intention to charge Ezra Levant with a crime or charge him and throw him in prison. | ||
| There's only an intention to sort out whether or not the advertising campaign surrounding his book was against election law. | ||
| And look, I get why Levant would make a big deal out of this, and it's because he looks really guilty, and he's a big old baby. | ||
| And he's also really guilty. | ||
| I will let the administrative commissioner decide this. | ||
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It looks bad for him. | |
| I'm so sick of this. | ||
| The law enforcement just does not know how to deal with these guys. | ||
| They always get this tiny... | ||
| Like explicit ill will people. | ||
| Yeah, like Project Veritas. | ||
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Those guys committed a fucking crime by sneaking into a... | |
| Right, and they had some consequences for that. | ||
| Right, but they could have done jail time, which is what we need to do with these malicious actors. | ||
| If there is any way to punish them in the law to the extent of it, that is who should be punished. | ||
| It introduces difficult questions about how you deal with people that you can very intuitively and empirically observe are shitheads. | ||
| People have life sentences for marijuana. | ||
| Fuck these guys. | ||
| Right, but you're against that too. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You can't use that as a justification for why you should lock these people up forever. | ||
| I know, it's bad. | ||
| It's difficult. | ||
| It's a really hard question. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I think, I keep coming back to this, I think just widespread awareness of these people's patterns of deceit and shitheadery, I think is probably the only thing that is really powerful against this. | ||
| Because otherwise, wielding the mechanisms of the state become really difficult because then they get to pretend they're victims of the state. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But they're going to pretend they're... | ||
| Alex is pretending he's a victim of the state just because he got kicked off YouTube. | ||
| True. | ||
| They're going to pretend to be victims of the state no matter what. | ||
| Yeah, maybe there is no win. | ||
| I would say deplatforming does help. | ||
| It does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, as far as steps to take, that's pretty big. | ||
| True. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't have a prescription for the solution, but I would say that locking people up is not the best. | ||
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Marijuana convictions expunged this guy 10 to 20. I'm with you for the first half. | |
| I'm iffy on the second. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Ezra gets to talking about how he thinks he's innocent. | ||
| I don't know if his defense is very good. | ||
| In Canada election law, there's a special exemption for book and the promotion of book. | ||
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So, I mean, I've written, I don't know, almost 10 books, so I'd have to count. | |
| Some of them are bestsellers. | ||
| So the book is clearly protected under our laws, and yet they still brought me in. | ||
| Ezra doesn't seem to understand the issue, which, uh, that's me being glib. | ||
| He fully understands the issue, but he's pretending not to, because if he reveals that he does understand the issue, he'd have to admit that he probably broke election laws. | ||
| Alex, I've been advised by my lawyers, uh, actually, great work, Barnes, uh, to lie directly to your face and your audience. | ||
| That exemption that he's talking about that exists for books and advertising of books, uh, it only exists if the book was going to be released, whether or not an election was happening. | ||
| If the book is specifically released for an election, as Ezra has said is true of his own book, it is no longer eligible for that exemption because it is in essence an election advertisement. | ||
| And that would all be totally fine for him to do that, to release this book and do all these advertisements. | ||
| He would just have to register as a third-party political advertiser. | ||
| Registration is confiscation, Dale. | ||
| He doesn't want to do that either, because if he did, he would then be subject to other election laws about misleading advertisements. | ||
| What he puts out would be then subject to a much higher level of scrutiny than it would be otherwise. | ||
| Guys, I just want to lie to you! | ||
| Why is everybody making this so hard? | ||
| This dum-dum knows the game he's playing. | ||
| He can't register as a third-party advertiser without getting hit with a ton of fines for deceptive election advertising. | ||
| He can't pretend that he would have to put the book out whether or not there was an election because he said he wanted to get it out for the election. | ||
| And so he's left with the only refuge there is for con men like him, insisting the law says something different than what it says. | ||
| This is a particularly difficult pill for me to swallow since Ezra used to be a practicing lawyer. | ||
| He knows damn well how that exemption works. | ||
| Good work, Brian. | ||
| The reason that he has this investigation going is because his actions strongly imply that he wasn't eligible for the exemption he's claiming he's covered by. | ||
| It's fucking bullshit. | ||
| Okay, sure you have me on tape murdering that guy, but I didn't murder him. | ||
| The statute clearly says. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a special exemption for murdering this guy. | ||
| What's interesting is that Alex is trying to defend him and he starts rambling real hard and in his ramble he's clearly saying that Ezra put this out for the election. | ||
| God damn it Ezra! | ||
| This is really strange. | ||
| This is real tyranny ladies and gentlemen because I've read the Canadian law. | ||
| Have you? | ||
| Oh, of course, if you're just a citizen or a group and it's your speech, you can publish a book any way you want. | ||
| But if you're a political group and it's a political publication by the party or by a third party as an action group, you've got to tell us. | ||
| They're trying to get him to say, yes, I'm a political action group and opt in to go into jail. | ||
| And they're telling him, you're guilty, buddy. | ||
| You admit you did this in the election. | ||
| No crap, Sherlock. | ||
| Of course I don't like this piece of garbage, and I'm doing this. | ||
| It's my speech. | ||
| All right, so. | ||
| 1215, that's still in charge in Canada. | ||
| Common law, and it's just outrageous. | ||
| Magna Carta. | ||
| It's not tiptoeing towards North Korea or communist China or Nazi Germany or Mao. | ||
| The standard isn't if you're a political action group, as I understand from reading the statute, when you're putting these things out, like if you're a website primarily, It's size. | ||
| It's size of website that is the determinative factor if you need to register for this third party political advertising designation. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And in this case, I believe it was, the threshold is like 3 million hits if you're an English language website. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Which they are above. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, tank your own website, dude. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Problem solved. | ||
| Got it. | ||
| I solved it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just be less successful, and then you can play all these bullshit games. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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Oh, but the reason you're playing those bullshit games is because you want to make money off it. | |
| Need to be more successful. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| That's trouble. | ||
| You are quite a pickle. | ||
| The problem, I think, might come from spending your entire life lying about stuff. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Anyway, Ezra Levant sucks. | ||
| He's a big old titty baby, and I do not care to listen to any more of him because this whole thing, the whole thing. | ||
| It's just a right-wing aggrievement fantasy being played out, perpetuated in order to direct money to Ezra Levant. | ||
| And it's pretty obvious. | ||
| It's one of the great grifts of our time. | ||
| It maybe is the best grift. | ||
| Lying to white people and telling them that they're always under attack and then they give you money. | ||
| That is so easy. | ||
| Strong grift. | ||
| It's not hard. | ||
| So Alex has another guest coming up that actually leads to one of the funnier moments that we've heard in a long time. | ||
| But not because of the guest. | ||
| You'll get it later, but here Alex announces his upcoming guest. | ||
| I haven't read your book. | ||
| We need to sell it. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I know you've got to go, but we've got to go to break. | ||
| Come back and do five more minutes on where you see all this going. | ||
| And we have former Congressman Bob Barr. | ||
| Oh, Bob Barr! | ||
| Started the impeachment against Harry Clinton to give us his expert take. | ||
| You couldn't do better on a day like this with the president. | ||
| I think you could. | ||
| Are we going to go with witnesses? | ||
| We don't know yet. | ||
| We're checking. | ||
| Shots fired at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| But speaking of funding, that's a lifeblood. | ||
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That is a desperate kind of epidemic. | |
| First of all, I haven't read your book, but we need to sell it. | ||
| Hey, we got Bob Barr coming on. | ||
| He started the Clinton impeachment. | ||
| What a great thing. | ||
| Shots fired at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| Speaking of funding. | ||
| Were you speaking of funding? | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| So Alex gets down to talking about how he had a realization about the globalists. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're many years in. | ||
| Yeah, this is not a realization. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is basically just Alex killing time. | ||
| I am blown away by how evil the deep state is and how sick they are and how filthy they are and how lying and stupid. | ||
| And then it hits me. | ||
| These people have been winning for a long time. | ||
| They have been absolutely dominating us. | ||
| And so... | ||
| That makes me feel like a wimp. | ||
| Because I don't have something to prove, but I also am not going to lay down. | ||
| And again, there's a lot of guys who can kick my ass, okay? | ||
| But I remember being a little kid and getting off the bus in like 6th grade, 5th grade, and kids were 3 or 4 years old getting on me and beating me up and stuff. | ||
| Until that moment when... | ||
| You looked at me weird because he's saying he's three years older. | ||
| I think he's getting beaten up by toddlers. | ||
| I'm pretty sure he's getting beaten up by toddlers. | ||
| Yes, that's canon now. | ||
| That is Infowars canon. | ||
| Three years older. | ||
| Alex got beaten up in first and second grade by toddlers. | ||
| He just can't speak. | ||
| He met older. | ||
| Until that moment when I just got angry and picked up a rock that was on the ground and basically put the kid's eye out. | ||
| Technically almost killed the guy. | ||
| Well, your 15-year-old, 16-year-old shouldn't be trying to beat up 11-year-olds, but they don't have the killer instinct, folks. | ||
| God will allow me to use this rock to put your eye out. | ||
| God, I will kill you. | ||
| Because God gives me that strength. | ||
| As we get towards the later stages of this episode, there's more of him just getting lost in thought and filling time with nothing. | ||
| Which is weird, because he doesn't really even bring up Brexit. | ||
| I know that Brexit takes effect in the evening, but you know that it's the day it's going to happen. | ||
| He's been yelling about Brexit forever. | ||
| Why not get Farage on? | ||
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Faraj is never coming on InfoWars again. | |
| Faraj got what he wanted and now he is gone. | ||
| Why do you get Tommy Robinson on then? | ||
| Tommy Robinson's a little toxic right now. | ||
| Count Dankula. | ||
| Dankula is busy. | ||
| He doesn't have time for a small show like InfoWars. | ||
| I don't know who Alex could get from the UK anymore. | ||
| I still think that Dankula is not busy. | ||
| I'm going to need you to back that up. | ||
| I refute your comment. | ||
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But Alex is just filming time. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, Bob Barr is coming on later. | ||
| He's coming on later. | ||
| King of the Elephants. | ||
| I don't think we have any clips. | ||
| King of the Elephants. | ||
| I don't think we have any clips of him because it's just yelling about the deep state. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| It's very stupid. | ||
| But it turns out, mic down for this, Alex did not mean to book Bob Barr. | ||
| It was an accidental bucket. | ||
| I didn't really get to a lot of calls today. | ||
| We got Bob Barr, who actually initiated the impeachment against Bill Clinton. | ||
| Coming up, I couldn't think of a better guest in this whole constellation of news. | ||
| I want to get Robert Barnes back on as well. | ||
| I was saying, get Barnes on, get Barnes on, but I must have mumbled over the phone so they got Bob Barr, but see how. | ||
| Sometimes God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers, because I want to get Barnes back on, too. | ||
| He's always so busy. | ||
| But Bob Barr, oh, that's really great. | ||
| Oh, I'm glad. | ||
| Are you mad we actually got Bob Barr? | ||
| I'm like, no, I'm glad you got Bob Barr. | ||
| In fact, you should have thought of that. | ||
| We should get him on. | ||
| He started the impeachment and got that initiated in the House of Representatives and got punished by the political establishment for it. | ||
| So that's coming up. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Barnes is so busy now. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Coincidence that when he stopped working for you, he got real busy. | ||
| He's really wild. | ||
| Real busy. | ||
| He chose a specific time to get very busy. | ||
| Right when I do my show, it's so weird that he's always booked. | ||
| Yeah, it's so strange that he used to be on... | ||
| All the fucking time when I was employing him. | ||
| I was starting to think that he had no intention of winning any of those lawsuits and he was just charging me a lot for the hours. | ||
| And just out for exposure. | ||
| Yeah, I think that might be him. | ||
| I think I might have been fucking Nigerian scammed again! | ||
| Get me Robert Barnes! | ||
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Oh, wait. | |
| Robert Barnes is not going to come back on the show. | ||
| He is not being paid. | ||
| No, he's not going to do it. | ||
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What if we get Bob Barr and pretend we misheard him? | |
| Let's do it. | ||
| I do think that was... | ||
| But that, of all the names to mishear, it does make sense. | ||
| Very close. | ||
| It really does. | ||
| Very, very close. | ||
| So, like I said, I don't care about Bob Barr's appearance. | ||
| It's meaningless. | ||
| But Alex gets back to talking about the coronavirus situation. | ||
| And he wants you to know... | ||
| That he sells very good products. | ||
| I'm sure he does. | ||
| For this. | ||
| And I think he's dancing real close. | ||
| Yeah, you can't say that they're preventative or curative, right? | ||
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| No! | ||
| It's against the law! | ||
| And I'm not sure it's this virus, but we need to have our bases covered with the virus. | ||
| And, you know, I said I would talk about this, but this is such big news, and we'll go to a break and come back with a guess, so I'm going to do it right now. | ||
| Because this is an important decision for all you out there to think about and decide what you're going to do. | ||
| But can I get an overhead shot, guys? | ||
| I want to show you something that I've been authorized to show you. | ||
| This is in Congress. | ||
| This is 13 years ago. | ||
| And this is the company. | ||
| And when I got this information four or five days ago, I said, listen, are you sure you want me to do this? | ||
| Because you've got Department of Defense contracts. | ||
| You've got a lot of others. | ||
| They might mess with you. | ||
| They're like, no, no. | ||
| We're the owners. | ||
| We like what you're doing. | ||
| We've got a partnership with you. | ||
| We want people to know how important this is, how the Department of Defense and congressional reports say that this product, the nanosilver, has been found to knock out SARS. | ||
| Well, no craps. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| Viruses, bacteria, you name it. | ||
| Nobody's selling 16 ounces of nanosilver that's patented. | ||
| This is the top company in the U.S. that we're not even private label. | ||
| This is something they developed with my dad, the immune gargle. | ||
| Ridiculous name, but it's a technical medical name, and you can drink it, and it's all... | ||
| It's what my dad, who's an oral surgeon and dentist, named it. | ||
| So that's what we're going to call it, but Super Silver Immune Gargle in three different sizes. | ||
| It doesn't sound like you're happy about it. | ||
| It's selling out, but I'm still keeping it at 40% off. | ||
| Despite that, 50% off when you get all three together, because we're not going to raise prices during a crisis. | ||
| We're not going to gouge people. | ||
| So he's dancing around this. | ||
| Silver has been found to kill bacteria in water. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Nanosilver has not been found to kill. | ||
| That's not entirely fair. | ||
| But the point is that this ad could be a problem for Alex, even if the claims that he's making about nanosilver are substantiated or not. | ||
| Like, it doesn't really matter. | ||
| From the limited amount of scientific research I'm able to do, it does seem like there have been some studies that have shown some indications that nanometals have a potential with viruses and bacteria. | ||
| But that isn't the part to be concerned about. | ||
| It's the fact that he's selling the nanosilver product in the way he is, by directly linking it. | ||
| In that clip to SARS, and later he's going to with the coronavirus. | ||
| In 2014, Dr. Rima Labo, former Alex Jones guest and wife of General Stubblebine, received a letter from the FDA and the Department of Health and Human Services warning her that the way that she was selling her nanosilver was a problem. | ||
| She was promoting the silver in a way that was understood to be, quote, for use in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease. | ||
| And because of that, she was no longer selling a supplement. | ||
| She was selling a drug. | ||
| And as it turns out, there are different rules about how you can sell drugs, particularly as it relates to interstate commerce, when you do. | ||
| This letter was sent to her during the time when Ebola was the hot virus on the scene for the medical scammers, so she was pitching it as an Ebola remedy. | ||
| In her sales pitches, she mentions a very similar sounding release from the Department of Defense, though she says it was from 2009, which is a little off from Alex's timeline. | ||
| She makes it 13 years ago, 2007. | ||
| It's important to recognize that it's immaterial if Alex thinks his claims that he's making are backed by a study. | ||
| This is an issue of what he's required to do if he's selling a drug. | ||
| He has to get FDA approval for the sale of the product if he's engaging in this sort of sales. | ||
| In addition to FDA approval, if Alex is selling a drug, he's required to label his bottles with known side effects, contraindications for the drug, drug interactions, etc. | ||
| I went to the Infowars store and looked at Alex's labeling for his immune gargle that he's selling with a silly name, and it doesn't include any of those things. | ||
| In fact, it has a warning that the claims he makes have not been evaluated by the FDA. | ||
| Which you can't do if this is a drug. | ||
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| It's weird, because if you look at the label for his super silver wound gel, there is a statement that it's been evaluated and is effective against staph infection, E. coli, MRSA, and a few other things. | ||
| Weird that he would label that one correctly as a drug, and his nano silver mouth gargle has the standard supplement labeling. | ||
| Yet, he's selling it as if it's a drug. | ||
| And then you have to consider the fact that there are some dissenting voices on the matter of nanosilver and nanotechnology and supplements as a whole. | ||
| I'll read to you from an article here. | ||
| Quote, However, nanotechnology carries risks, the primary one being lung damage. | ||
| Studies have shown that most nanoparticles migrate to the lungs. | ||
| Other organs are susceptible to damage as well. | ||
| Scientists have found that sometimes an overactivity of this destruction process leads to cell death. | ||
| Nanosilver may damage mitochondria, which leads to DNA damage. | ||
| Until further evidence concludes nanoparticles safe, it may be best to use what has been true and tested for several decades and consider colloidal silver without nanoparticles. | ||
| That was an article from Infowars.com from December 23rd, 2014. | ||
| You see, back then, Alex wasn't selling nanosilver, only colloidal silver. | ||
| But in the weirdo, dumb, dumb, fake medicine community, nanosilver was all the rage. | ||
| Rima Lebo was selling it as an Ebola cure, and people were excited about this new breakthrough. | ||
| But since Alex didn't have a stake in the market, his messaging was that it was dangerous and you should just use colloidal silver. | ||
| Or you can go back to 2008 and find Alex posting an article titled, quote, Scientists Scared as Nanotechnology and Nanoparticles Become Common in Consumer Products. | ||
| And the article is all about how there are dangerous side effects to nanosilver, like pollution that kills aquatic ecosystems. | ||
| The article says, quote, Ionic silver is only toxic to humans at very high levels. | ||
| The toxicity of nanoparticle silver, said Westerhoff, has yet to be determined. | ||
| At that point, Alex was not selling nanosilver. | ||
| That is the important key piece of this. | ||
| Stick with colloidal silver, because I'm not selling nanosilver. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now I'm selling nanosilver. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| It's actually a cure for a virus that literally we don't know a ton about yet. | ||
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Right. | |
| So he says that it kills SARS. | ||
| Now, the important thing that we're going to get to a little bit later is medical claims can be made about the topical silver gel because that has been evaluated by the FDA and it can be sold as a drug and there are warnings on that appropriately. | ||
| That is not true of his other nano-silver products. | ||
| He's trying to play fast and loose with which product is which. | ||
| He can make claims about the gel, the wound gel. | ||
| He cannot about these other nano-silver products. | ||
| And he's playing a little shell game. | ||
| The supplement industry is a billions-dollar industry, mainly because they can figure out a way to live in that gray area. | ||
| That's the situation. | ||
| But I think that Alex is at risk of getting outside of that gray area here. | ||
| I don't know exactly at what point the FDA would care or take action, but from what I can tell, it seems like he's veering close and testing the waters as to what he can get away with, which is really fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's... | ||
| God, that shouldn't be... | ||
| I don't know how to police that, but... | ||
| A supplement huckster like Alec should not also be able to have an FDA-approved drug. | ||
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No. | |
| Like, it should be, you're either an FDA-approved drug salesman, or, I don't know. | ||
| That's so fucked up that you have similarly named products. | ||
| Well, but I mean, one is explicitly for topical use, and the other is to be ingested. | ||
| It would be very difficult for anyone who did any kind of... | ||
| Looking into it to get them confused. | ||
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Right. | |
| And Alex does very frequently tell you not to eat the wound gel. | ||
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Okay, well that's good. | |
| Which gives some indication of the audience. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Don't eat the wound gel. | |
| His opening statement on every show now is don't eat Tide Pods. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has gotten some sort of letter here that he's reading, but I don't think he read it before he went on air because he's not reading really important parts of it. | ||
| I don't know what's going on here, but This is what he's using to sort of imply that his products are useful against the coronavirus. | ||
| But here's the deal. | ||
| Department of the Army Headquarters, United States Special Operations Command, Tampa Point Boulevard. | ||
| And it goes into Andrew C. Von Edenbach, Commissioner of Food and Drug Administration. | ||
| And they go on to say that with antibiotic resistance and all the rest of it, we have found that this particular type of nanosilver is effective against SARS and a whole bunch of other stuff. | ||
| Then it goes on here. | ||
| The Texas A&M System Health Science Center. | ||
| And it says confidential. | ||
| Because they don't want this type of stuff out for a lot of reasons. | ||
| And it goes over the fact and says, dear Secretary Ridge, and they go on to say the Office of Homeland Security, John B. Conley building. | ||
| So that A&M is running a whole secret project for the government. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Let's jump. | ||
| This particular nanosilver we found in our trials, secret trials. | ||
| Ah, secret trials. | ||
| With American Biotech Labs was very effective. | ||
| This report is that the coronavirus, like the SARS, same-family virus, Homeland Defense, put out the data that our product could kill that one. | ||
| See the above letter from the Director of Homeland Security to the Secretary, Dr. Carlton, ex-surgeon general of Air Force, is a brilliant man who came up with the model hospital system, mobile hospital system. | ||
| We only received a copy of it because our testimony before Congress on malaria, and it was included in the addendum of the testimony. | ||
| We never received a good copy, but we did get a copy, and it's worth reading. | ||
| And it goes on. | ||
| Which you haven't done, reading it. | ||
| He hasn't read this. | ||
| It goes on. | ||
| None of this matters in terms of what Alex is doing. | ||
| If the testing really is there, that's cool. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Whatever's highlighted. | ||
| He's scanning. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But because he feels emboldened, he's drifting super close to selling this silver as a cure for the coronavirus. | ||
| And if he's doing that, he's entered a completely different game. | ||
| And he's at the great risk of the FDA getting involved. | ||
| At which point, I mean, I would assume that's the last thing that he wants. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I really don't think he wants... | ||
| He can't handle another front. | ||
| No. | ||
| He can't handle the fronts that he's on right now, let alone adding the FDA into it. | ||
| He's been teasing that he's going to reveal the name of his silver supplier. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And so he does in this next clip, but he also reveals that his dad... | ||
| Is it Gwyneth Paltrow? | ||
| No. | ||
| His dad is behind all of the supplement line, apparently. | ||
| Which I wasn't clear on, but I also don't care. | ||
| Like seven, eight years ago, and I said, Dad, I need you to come in and manage supplements. | ||
| We need to put out our own, put out the best. | ||
| And you've brought stuff. | ||
| He's done research scientists as well, done some things. | ||
| I said, we need you to bring us really the best stuff and help certify everything. | ||
| And he did it. | ||
| And then he brought us the folks that are in the super silver toothpaste, the super blue toothpaste. | ||
| It has the nano silver. | ||
| This is the top company, folks. | ||
| And they're like, no, just say who we are. | ||
| Dr. Keith Moeller, CEO, American Biotech Labs, LLC. | ||
| That's the big one. | ||
| They're the only ones that have approved over-the-counter super silver wombs. | ||
| Y'all do not take this internally. | ||
| This is super, well, let's just say what it is, poisonous to bacteria and viruses, which means it ain't too good for you, but it's better than dying, right? | ||
| American Biotech Labs is a legitimate company. | ||
| They focus on a large part of their business' medical applications of silver. | ||
| They have an FDA approval for the wound dressing gel, but that use of nanosilver is topical, and it's not the same nanosilver that is in Alex's products that are taken internally. | ||
| He cannot take the approach that the, you know, hey, this approval is here for the gel, and then just apply it to other products because they're both silver and made by the same company. | ||
| That is not cool. | ||
| He cannot do that. | ||
| Also, interestingly, American Biotech Labs uses SilverSol, which, you know, for its nanosilver supplements. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| That is exactly the same nanosilver that was used in Rima Labo's products, which earned her a warning from the FDA in 2014. | ||
| For getting too far down the road, Alex is starting to go down. | ||
| The more details Alex gives out, the more it looks like he's heading that same direction, which would be great for him, because then he can pretend that he doesn't understand rules and play the victim of government oppression trying to wipe out my supplement business. | ||
| Also, now that I know where Alex is getting his silver wound gel from, I can compare prices. | ||
| If you buy it from Alex, you're going to pay... | ||
| It's 50% off, Dan! | ||
| You're going to pay $39.95 for a 4-ounce bottle, currently marked down to $23.97. | ||
| If you buy it from a website like Vitacost without the InfoWars labeling, just the American Biotech Labs product, it costs $27.99 for a four-ounce bottle, currently marked down to $16.96. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You can get everything that he sells cheaper without the InfoWars labeling if you just go. | ||
| This is a really dumb idea to say, oh, we just take all the products from there, put on new labels. | ||
| Anybody who's in his audience, I guess the allure still is just we're funding the info war. | ||
| Yeah, it has to be. | ||
| But you're paying way more. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I guess that's the... | ||
| I got nothing. | ||
| I mean, that's standard, like, say the MSRP is this, but then deflate it and you still have your profit margin. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| But, Jesus. | ||
| I'm not at all angry about people who do markups in order to allow their businesses. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I am against people who make their entire presentation. | ||
| Hey, we don't mark anything up. | ||
| We're not playing a game here. | ||
| And then all the prices are higher than other places you can find the exact same product with a different label. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's what I'm against. | ||
| If he starts a sentence with a clause, then the following clause will prove that he was lying about the first one. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I just take issue with that. | ||
| Like I said, I think that Alex is getting close to bad water. | ||
| I'm not positive that he's fully in violation of FDA guidelines, but I think he's really fucking close. | ||
| And the way he's trying to sort of muddy the water with the wound gel and the gargle is just like... | ||
| It's a fucked up game. | ||
| Because the implication and the message that the audience is supposed to get... | ||
| Is that the gargle will have the same effect and will kill the coronavirus. | ||
| Whereas that is not an FDA approved thing. | ||
| And because he's not explicitly saying that, just dancing around it, I don't know if it's actionable. | ||
| But the intention is there and it's bad. | ||
| He does sound resentful toward his dad for the immune gargle name because it is a terrible name. | ||
| It's a technical name. | ||
| You can drink it. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Terrible. | ||
| So, this next clip is a little long. | ||
| But I think it's one of these things that... | ||
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You know, it's kind of against type. | |
| Throughout this clip, you will hear at least four instances where you're like, he's about to do an ad pivot. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's about to do an ad pivot. | ||
| And it never comes. | ||
| No, that's fucked up. | ||
| You can't do that to me now. | ||
| It's important to, I know I've ruined it, but it's important to show every now and again, he does the exact same behavior and then just never hits the dismount. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| It's rare. | ||
| It doesn't happen very often, but I think this is an intense example of it. | ||
| The reason the president doesn't have more support is they threaten everyone around him. | ||
| I mean, we're talking sex operatives, infiltration, grab their bank accounts, people threaten to kidnap the kids. | ||
| I mean, it's beyond any movie you've ever seen, okay? | ||
| You just saw a Canadian royal amount of police saying we're going to put you in prison for a book you wrote against Trudeau. | ||
| I mean, it's... | ||
| These people are unchained. | ||
| They have no chivalrous connection. | ||
| By the way, chivalry is what powerful people do because they want some rules on themselves. | ||
| They want to get rid of the chivalry. | ||
| They want to start going down that line. | ||
| They're going to reap the whirlwind. | ||
| But I've got to tell you something from the bottom of my heart. | ||
| Plug. | ||
| That's a plug. | ||
| That's obviously a plug. | ||
| We're living in incredible historic times, and I just... | ||
| When listeners call up, and they say, Alex, thank you so much for what you're doing. | ||
| They could put a gun to my head, I wouldn't stop doing this. | ||
| You understand that? | ||
| Because this is like getting oxygen. | ||
| I'm not a huge skin diver, but I've gone down to about 80 feet and come back to the top. | ||
| Some people can really go down to like 1,000 feet and do it, because it compresses your blood so that you have more oxygenation, but it's coming back up, you've got to watch out for it. | ||
| But I've gone down to about 80 feet. | ||
| So here is where I thought he meant to get to a plug, and he got just distracted by talking about skin diving. | ||
| So I thought, okay, the plug is going to come after the skin diving. | ||
| Skin diving. | ||
| And down there, man, like a minute, whoa, everything's so bright, everything's so clear, and then you come back up, you're like, ah, I need air. | ||
| And I start using the whole skin diving analogy, but... | ||
| Products? | ||
| Services? | ||
| I don't even know why I was using the skin diving analogy. | ||
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Good. | |
| I'm not going off talking points here, but this is like, uh-oh, it's coming back up at the top and getting air. | ||
| I mean, I'm like somebody that went down 80 feet, and I'm coming back up with my flippers, and I just want to get that air. | ||
| So here I'm thinking, like, okay, he's found it. | ||
| He's now going to use, like, you giving me money is the air that I need to continue to fight. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Or the only reason I'm able to get that low is because of your support and all that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Because my blood's not under pressure when I'm 30, 40 feet down, and now my brain's going, whoa, you don't have air, dude. | ||
| So me fighting tyranny is not some heroic effort. | ||
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It's out. | |
| Air in your lungs. | ||
| And the air in our lungs is? | ||
| Money. | ||
| It's air in your lungs. | ||
| It's not like some heroic thing to suck air in your lungs or love your children or somebody walks up and punches you in the face to kick their ass. | ||
| That's not heroic. | ||
| Giving us money is heroic. | ||
| That's the thing about fighting. | ||
| You don't want to get in a fight with some big guy starting to fight with you. | ||
| But as soon as they take a swing or as soon as they connect... | ||
| You're like, you know what, I'm going to beat your ass. | ||
| And then it starts. | ||
| There's something so satisfying when that bully gets hit really hard and then rallies again and you knock them down again and all of a sudden they go, yeah, and your foot goes right in their face and rakes their nose and teeth out. | ||
| And I don't want to be like that, but I'm telling you, don't thank me for this. | ||
| This is everything. | ||
| This is the Animating Contest of Liberty. | ||
| This is what it's all about. | ||
| And here's where you think he's going to jump into. | ||
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Right there. | |
| And if you support me, I can continue the animated contest of liberty. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I wouldn't be anywhere else because I love you. | ||
| If it weren't for you. | ||
| I wouldn't be with you in eternity. | ||
| I don't want to go with Satan. | ||
| I want to go with God. | ||
| And I'm not going to put on some fake, candy-ass, Bible-thumper BS up here. | ||
| I love Jesus, and that's it. | ||
| Jesus made me, and that's it. | ||
| And I love God. | ||
| And whatever God does through me, it happens. | ||
| Now, here's where I thought he was going to get sacrilegious. | ||
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Because I was so sure, like, it's been minutes now. | |
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He's clearly waiting out the clock to get to the commercial break. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| This is an insane ramble. | ||
| I have no idea what he's trying to say. | ||
| Skin diving, fighting, breathing. | ||
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80 feet. | |
| Kick somebody's teeth out. | ||
| I don't want to be like that. | ||
| Jesus loves me, I guess. | ||
| So I thought, okay, he's accidentally started talking about Jesus. | ||
| He's going to have to use that somehow to launch into his ad. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I think, honestly, maybe because he started talking so much about Jesus here at the end, maybe that precluded him from it. | ||
| He realized there's not a really good swing point here. | ||
| Nothing Jesus loves more than naked capitalism used in an exploitative manner. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I just go out in the spirit, and God didn't want me to stand up there and tell people how pious I am all day, or sit there and tell people how I read this many books of the Bible, and I memorized this, and God wants me to get up and take on the new world order. | ||
| Then why do you do the other stuff? | ||
| Because if you know one thing about God, God hates cowards. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| No one knows who originally said that, but it's true. | ||
| God hates cowards. | ||
| Literally, the meek shall inherit the earth, you dumbass! | ||
| Who are default positioned to not have fear. | ||
| Committed to God's will. | ||
| But our flesh is imperfect. | ||
| So to be able to line up with God is a process of flame. | ||
| And you've got to be put through the fire of hell. | ||
| To separate the metal from the chest. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| And he goes out to commercial. | ||
| That's the weirdest thing. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| There were so many points that are like, this is a classic pivot point. | ||
| Yeah, I'm mad because I was trying to sell his products for him. | ||
| There were prime opportunities. | ||
| He was like, alright. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Sell my shit. | ||
| Once again, we have proven that Alex Jones has never read the Bible or has no idea what the contents there are. | ||
| No, Genesis 1-1. | ||
| In the beginning, God hates cowards. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| I don't know who said that. | ||
| It wasn't God, admittedly, or in the Bible. | ||
| Genesis 1, 2. God really likes people who have a default position of no fear. | ||
| Loves it. | ||
| Loves that no fear clothing line. | ||
| Loves the t-shirts. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The whole thing. | ||
| God wears nothing but three wolf moon t-shirts. | ||
| God is basically a dog with a t-shirt. | ||
| Isn't that the logo of no fear? | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| Anyway, I think one of the reasons that Alex could afford to not... | ||
| Do a pivot there for ads. | ||
| Is that he's hosting the fourth hour. | ||
| Oh, he is? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it's entirely about survival food. | ||
| There it is! | ||
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Hey! | |
| In addition to selling the survival food, Alex is super defensive about... | ||
| Selling the survival food. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| We got some time left before this next guest joins us. | ||
| Let me just get up and talk about this right now. | ||
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Go! | |
| I didn't just start selling storable food to the audience last month or six months ago or a year ago. | ||
| I've been selling storable food to people that believe they need to get it. | ||
| I've been doing that for 20 plus years. | ||
| Because it made sense to me to have insurance you can eat during any crisis. | ||
| And we hope Trump and America wins. | ||
| We hope the globalists get defeated. | ||
| But in a war like this, there isn't any arming. | ||
| That wins a war, politically or militarily, that doesn't have food backing it up. | ||
| True. | ||
| And so that's what we're talking about here. | ||
| Napoleon went into Russia. | ||
| He ran out of food. | ||
| He failed. | ||
| Hitler went into Russia. | ||
| He ran out of food. | ||
| He failed. | ||
| Are these examples of people you wish had more food? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| The big problem with Hitler was he didn't buy my food. | ||
| This is bad framing. | ||
| You're trying to sell food. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Hitler, but he went to Russia, didn't have enough food. | ||
| Real tragedy. | ||
| Chairman Mao just didn't have enough food. | ||
| Already off to a weird start. | ||
| If Pol Pot had enough food, man, he would have been able to kill way more people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex is like, he said before we get to this next guest, and the next guest is the guy who runs My Patriot Supply. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| His survival food company. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| We're in Ted Anderson territory. | ||
| This is a big old infomercial. | ||
| But, you know, so he's loyal. | ||
| He loves... | ||
| My Patriot Supply. | ||
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Loves it. | |
| But the thing is that recently he's been being reached out to by other survival food companies. | ||
| Is he trying to get more money out of this dude on the show? | ||
| I don't think it's a shakedown. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't think it's a shakedown. | ||
| But it is convoluted as hell the way he's presenting this. | ||
| Obviously, I just straight shoot the listeners. | ||
| It's all I can do. | ||
| It's my superpower is that I just tell the truth to what's going on. | ||
| You're lying now! | ||
| People two plus weeks ago said, why are you promoting storable foods and water filtration while this coronavirus is obviously out of control? | ||
| And I said, I'm always promoting water filtration and storable foods and the best storable foods and the best water filtration. | ||
| I'm not going to sit here and freak out at this point. | ||
| But then we saw the sales over the last weekend just skyrocket. | ||
| And then I got some calls, not just from... | ||
| Our main supplier, My Patriot Supply, but I got calls from all over the country, different companies trying to get me to endorse their product or become sponsors suddenly. | ||
| Right, and here's why. | ||
| You're good at that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You are good at scaring people in your dedicated audience and moving product because you create pandemonium fears and like... | ||
| Relate everything. | ||
| Every kind of fear or anxiety people could have, you take, amplify, and direct them to whatever product you want them to buy. | ||
| If I were running a survival food company and I was a little bit shady... | ||
| You better believe I'd be calling out. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Why wouldn't you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hit your wagon to that bucket. | ||
| And Alex is saying that sales are skyrocketing because of the effort that he's put in to push the survival suit. | ||
| So odd that sales of this specifically are skyrocketing. | ||
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Super weird when you have people like Mike fucking Adam saying things like this. | |
| It's over for humanity. | ||
| There will only be lone survivors. | ||
| I'm never going to stop playing that game. | ||
| I was going to say, if we get a new technocrat drop, that one's right up top, baby. | ||
| You're never going to stop playing that. | ||
| You could never forget that. | ||
| That's your new Ebola cure, Mike. | ||
| Anyway, of course, when you have that kind of rhetoric being pushed on the show and you have at least a certain amount of people who believe and trust Alex, it's going to drive sales. | ||
| Sales have been way up. | ||
| These other people want to get in on the game. | ||
| Alex, sell our food, too. | ||
| Makes total sense. | ||
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It's a scam. | |
| Isn't that just such that this is the psychopathy of capitalism? | ||
| Entirely. | ||
| These guys are like, I'm definitely going to hitch my wagon to this fucking lying huckster salesman because I'm going to get a few more food buckets out for the next couple of months. | ||
| I think that there's a way that businesses can exist in these spaces ethically. | ||
| Not with Alex. | ||
| No, certainly not. | ||
| But I think... | ||
| I have some thoughts on it that will come a little bit later. | ||
| There's nothing intrinsically wrong about selling survival food. | ||
| No, no, absolutely not. | ||
| It's the manner in which you do it. | ||
| So I would be prone to say, like, yes, the pursuit of profit does tend to make people behave in ways like getting Alex to sell your food if it works to sell more food. | ||
| And that's bad. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is bad. | ||
| I'll agree with you that far. | ||
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| Thank you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex is... | ||
| It's really strange because he's clearly doing an infomercial. | ||
| He has the guy from My Patriot Supply on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he doesn't really want to admit that it's an infomercial. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| So he's trying to live in this sort of in-between space that just ends up not making sense. | ||
| So here I am saying, this isn't a pitch, but if I'm going to pitch food, I'm going to pitch it. | ||
| But that's part of the equation. | ||
| Because I'm straight shooting you. | ||
| Yes, I'm pitching you food right now. | ||
| I can't help it. | ||
| You just said you weren't going to pitch. | ||
| But that's a side issue to the fact that I've been working with these folks 12 years since they began with a philosophy of high-quality food at low prices. | ||
| But the reason I've got them on is... | ||
| Why? | ||
| I started getting calls from other food suppliers saying, we've sold out. | ||
| Big institutional buyers are coming and buying it all up. | ||
| But we need your listeners to try to buy our product. | ||
| And I said, well, do you have it on hand? | ||
| Well, we're not sure how fast it'll get there. | ||
| So he has these other food companies that are calling him and trying to get him to sell their food that they don't have to his... | ||
| What is going on here? | ||
| Hey, look, this isn't a pitch, but I'm going to try and pitch you food. | ||
| I'm straight shooting you when I'm saying I'm not pitching, but I am going to... | ||
| Hey, might as well. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| This is doublespeak. | ||
| I don't believe... | ||
| Any of what he is saying. | ||
| Of course not! | ||
| What stupid survival company would be like, okay, we're going to call Alex now and we'll have food for him in two months when this entire thing has blown over. | ||
| We have no food. | ||
| But we need more customers. | ||
| Hey, Salesforce, get on it! | ||
| Call Alex fucking Jones! | ||
| It makes no sense. | ||
| Alex is trying to maintain that illusion that MyPatriotSupply is on, not to sell anything. | ||
| But, I mean, they are. | ||
| But they're not. | ||
| The real reason they're here today is not even to sell you food. | ||
| They're selling it out faster than they can get it. | ||
| It's to break down the fact that I gave them a call a few days ago, and I said, I'm getting calls that the food's selling out, and they're gearing up for some big emergency. | ||
| Do you know about this? | ||
| Can you tell me if there's been big governmental buyers coming to you? | ||
| And they said, listen. | ||
| It's no secret we've had the General Services Administration, which I should have said up front, coming to us trying to buy up everything we've got because all the other major food distributors are either sold out or close to selling out. | ||
| So if you understand the dynamic that's going on here, my Patriot Supply is not on to sell food. | ||
| They're here to create a panic that there is no food. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Which will drive you to buy their food. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| I don't know why he's not just leaning into this narrative of, like, if the institutional buyers are buying up all the food, we're selling it to you to keep them from getting it, so people get the food and not the institutions. | ||
| My patron supply does make that point a bit. | ||
| Right, but that's what you lean into. | ||
| You don't do this wishy-washy, I'm not going to pitch you on this food, I'm pitching you on the food, but I'm not. | ||
| But I am. | ||
| I'm a straight shooter who's lying to you as we speak. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think it's because Alex is beginning to get some pushback about this. | ||
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Well, yeah. | |
| There were articles that I saw, certainly posted on Twitter, where people were making the point that in crises like this, scam artists are opportunistic, and this is where they try and make their bread. | ||
| And the logo, the header image on it was Alex and Mike Adams. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| So I know that he knows that people are like... | ||
| Critiquing him for it. | ||
| And he knows that he's doing it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And their critiques are accurate. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's the same dynamic with Ezra Levant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Same shit. | ||
| You know what you're doing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Anyway, so there's this idea that you've got these institutional buyers who are buying up food. | ||
| If that's the case, I would assume that it's the same thing that happens with the emergency people, like FEMA. | ||
| Of course they buy up a lot of food. | ||
| If that's true. | ||
| Which I don't know if it is. | ||
| But they would always be. | ||
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Right. | |
| They would always be looking for a supply chain because there are emergencies. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| A lot of times, even small-scale emergencies that we don't know about that they have to respond to. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You know, it's not always Hurricane Katrina. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There are smaller-scale earthquakes or droughts or floods. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That they're responding to, and they need food to be able to keep people alive. | ||
| So it wouldn't be surprising to me if they did talk to some people. | ||
| Now, to the extent that they're buying up all the food, I do not believe it. | ||
| That I don't believe. | ||
| I don't buy this thing at all, mainly because Alex just said that they contacted him looking to buy up all his food. | ||
| If they had contacted him looking to buy up all his food, it would be sold. | ||
| The moment they said, I'm looking to buy all. | ||
| He would have been like, yes! | ||
| My Patriot Supply does not play that game. | ||
| They are only interested in selling to the Patriots. | ||
| Yeah, but Alex would absolutely sell out his entire warehouse of food if somebody called saying they want to buy it. | ||
| He doesn't have a warehouse of food. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| He doesn't have the food warehouse. | ||
| He has the warehouse with all of his other shit that's not selling. | ||
| His website directly sends the orders to My Patriot Supply. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And then they drop ship to people. | ||
| He's very clear about this. | ||
| He has no interaction with the food. | ||
| In the past, it's just been an Infowars sticker that's on there. | ||
| And now it's even apparently not that because they don't want to pay for stickers anymore. | ||
| His interaction with the food is the $4 extra that you pay for. | ||
| Alex would have no ability to sell to these institutional buyers. | ||
| Now, they didn't contact him. | ||
| He's just speaking imprecisely. | ||
| They contacted MyPatriotSupply. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And MyPatriotSupply told Alex about this contact that they had. | ||
| Now, they talk about that a little bit more specifically in this next clip. | ||
| And, I mean... | ||
| If you want to point a finger, you know where to point it. | ||
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This started in November. | |
| I started getting emails, phone calls from different people, from the government, basically, trying to get us into a system where you can get GSA contracts to work with the government. | ||
| I'm making large purchases of storable food. | ||
| Registration is confiscation. | ||
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We've always said no. | |
| We will never do that. | ||
| We will not sell to the government of my patriot supply. | ||
| That's within your right. | ||
| That's your choice. | ||
| If this happened in November, it's happened since November, guess what? | ||
| Fucking call your boy Trump about it. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| This is all Trump administration stuff, if it is some sort of nefarious plan. | ||
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So, hey, talk to your boy. | |
| Stop complaining on the radio, because the only function of this is to try and sell his goddamn food. | ||
| Yeah, that's weird. | ||
| This whole thing is made-up nonsense. | ||
| Basically, the government, fuck off. | ||
| They get really defensive about this idea that it is a good idea to have some emergency rations on hand. | ||
| And I have a thought about this on the other side of the clip. | ||
| I was just sitting back last week going, wait, I'm ordering more food. | ||
| I'm ordering gas masks. | ||
| I should be promoting this to my audience, and we shouldn't be ashamed of that. | ||
| We should be proud that we are warning Americans and others and getting them ready. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I mean, we prepare for a hurricane, right? | ||
| You see what Americans do when a hurricane's approaching one of the Gulf Coast states. | ||
| And so, you know, people run and prepare in stores days in advance. | ||
| Same thing is playing out here. | ||
| You know, it may come to pass. | ||
| It may not come to pass. | ||
| You know, we certainly hope it doesn't. | ||
| But it doesn't hurt. | ||
| I'm not critiquing my Patriot Supply guy nearly as much as I am Alex, but this conversation about, like, yeah, if you're in, let's say, the middle of Missouri, it is wise to have some canned food in your basement in case there's a tornado or something like that. | ||
| It is wise to have a spare tire in your car. | ||
| Put ice in the freezer, put water bottles in the freezer, and then, yeah, you're golden. | ||
| These sorts of things are not... | ||
| Unwise things to do. | ||
| Keep a blanket in your car. | ||
| Now, if you are in the middle of Missouri and you are trying to sell somebody something by screaming at them about tornadoes, you are being a dick. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| If you provide or offer survival food for somebody and recognize that in the case of an emergency you might need this, great. | ||
| By all means. | ||
| Sell your product in good health. | ||
| If you're selling it by escalating panic surrounding a situation, especially the way Alex is doing it with completely lying about fucking memes about the coronavirus, what you are doing is you're engaging in dishonest business practices. | ||
| You're taking what is a rational... | ||
| Thing to do, which is prepare in some way for a potential emergency. | ||
| And what you're doing is convincing people that the emergency is coming. | ||
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You better do this. | |
| And that's immoral. | ||
| That's taking something rational, turning it immoral. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And I hate it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Fucking hate it. | ||
| And that's basically this whole thing, man. | ||
| It's all just buy the food. | ||
| The whole fourth hour is just a food commercial. | ||
| There's just no other way to put it than you're scamming people. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| You're exploiting and scamming people. | ||
| That's like, to carry your analogy still further, like if you're screaming at a man in the middle of Missouri about fucking volcanoes and saying that that's what you're going to need the food for because the government is... | ||
| There's been a lot of volcanic activity this year. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Or hurricanes. | ||
| There's going to be a massive Missouri hurricane. | ||
| Have I told you about... | ||
| A Missouri cane, if you will. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has been saying that, you know... | ||
| Problem is, these institutional buyers are buying up all the food in the country. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So it makes this clip a little weird. | ||
| I've got literally like 15 other food companies contacting me and I just said, okay, what's your background? | ||
| You got a big supply? | ||
| They're like, well, actually we don't. | ||
| You guys do is why I chose you many years ago because I want my listeners to get a good response so they treat me like I want to be treated. | ||
| So let's come back and talk about kind of the way this started and how it built up to where it is now where you guys are buying up all the food around the country and got convoys of 18-wheelers going to Utah. | ||
| This music is great. | ||
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Now my Patreon supply is buying up all the food in the country. | |
| What's going on? | ||
| Who's buying up all the food? | ||
| Of course. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Anyway, Alex, one of his big things. | ||
| There's a word that Alex uses that I don't hear anyone else ever use, and that is redoubt. | ||
| Redoubt, yeah. | ||
| When he talks about people, you know, the globalists have their armored redoubts. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| In New Zealand and all over the place. | ||
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Right. | |
| Somewhere in Hawaii. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| Great graphic novel about that called Lazarus. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, it's really good. | ||
| About the globalists having armored redoubts? | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Would it surprise you to learn that Alex has his own redoubt? | ||
| I would be surprised to learn that. | ||
| I'm a father. | ||
| I've got to be in charge. | ||
| I'm trying to prepare for the future. | ||
| You know, I've got a little armored redoubt outside town. | ||
| You know, four or five acres with a gun safe and food. | ||
| Because I'm not living in fear. | ||
| I'm living empowered. | ||
| He has an armored redoubt. | ||
| He has an armored redoubt a little bit outside of Austin with guns and food. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Thanks, Alex. | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| You want to give us the address? | ||
| It makes me... | ||
| Because if I'm going to become a cannibal in 10 days after the end, I'm going to your fucking house, man. | ||
| This is where it all just, like, every single thing that he talks about the globalists doing, it seems like you just wait around long enough and he talks about doing it himself. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They all have armored redouts. | ||
| Well, you know, I got an armored redoubt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is very much like he thinks that the way he thinks is the way they think. | ||
| So of course he's doing what they're doing because he's thinking that way. | ||
| You can even take it a step back from that because his whole idea about these globalists having armored redoubts is like they can wait out the consequences of the things they've done. | ||
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Of course. | |
| If you take a sort of broader view of it, Alex has an armored redoubt because he wants to wait out. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| All right, buddy. | ||
| Anyway, he's really trying to sell this food, and in doing so, he ends up employing some pretty ridiculous things like this. | ||
| It's the idea of during the Great Depression in 1929 to about 1938 or 1939, major universities estimate 17 million people starve to death. | ||
| That is a figure I cannot find anywhere. | ||
| 17 million people? | ||
| We had a greater famine than Chairman Mao in China. | ||
| Is that what we're talking about here? | ||
| I can't find that figure anywhere, but I can find a ton of articles about how... | ||
| Because of social welfare programs, actually a lot of people were saved from starvation. | ||
| Alex probably doesn't want to consider. | ||
| 17 million is an outrageous figure. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Absolutely insane. | ||
| But the only reason you would use figures like that is to make people like, hey, you know, I don't want to be one of those 17 million that dies. | ||
| I better buy this survival food. | ||
| It's all tailor-made to direct people towards the food. | ||
| So anyway, the other thing too is that Alex is, like, it's pretty clear that he's tying the need to buy this food to the virus outbreak. | ||
| It does creep me out that I didn't think about this until I called you guys. | ||
| And then the operator was like, yeah, you're glad you're calling. | ||
| My goodness, we're usually shipped the next day, but it's like five days right now. | ||
| By the time I got Matt on the phone, which took three days, you guys were like, we don't even know when to promote this because maybe a month. | ||
| I mean, let's just say you've been a little bit concerned about what's going on. | ||
| It's kind of scared you a little bit. | ||
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No, when we saw it last week and we went into full motion saying, hey, this is going to get a little bit bigger, so let's make sure we've got the pipeline filled so we can serve and we can deliver like we do each and every day. | |
| So there is a tying of the situation with the virus to the need to buy food. | ||
| Now you have what is essentially like a full infomercial. | ||
| You have sensationalism, you have calls to action, you have... | ||
| A weird, vague idea that the government's buying up all the food. | ||
| Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't put a clock on, like, a special, you know? | ||
| They are not going to do that. | ||
| Well, not exactly, but that is exactly the last element that you need in order to make this a full infomercial. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Now, it's not the same as, like, on QVC, like, you have 20 minutes to act. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But this is a form of that. | ||
| I just love the fact that during regular times, people get great food and water filtration, you name it. | ||
| And during bad times, they get it. | ||
| And that scares me, though, that you're saying two, three weeks and you're out of food because the government buying everything up. | ||
| That is scary. | ||
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There it is. | |
| All right, Keith Bassemer, thank you so much. | ||
| We'll go to Infowarsstore.com to fund us. | ||
| It's all drop ship the same day. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, you have the presentation that there is three weeks. | ||
| You've only got two or three weeks. | ||
| Two or three weeks, and then maybe you'll be out of food. | ||
| Hey, you think you can buy it now, but you're running out of time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just a... | ||
| Buy it for Valentine's Day. | ||
| Your wife will love it. | ||
| Buy the book sort of infomercial for this food. | ||
| So anyway, that brings us to the end of this January 31st, 2020 episode. | ||
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And... | |
| I don't think he did a great job. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| Interesting review. | ||
| I think his performance left something to be desired. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The God Hates Cowards thing, that's a standout. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Not the voice acting claims and the Resident Evil references? | ||
| Not the Ezra Levante crying like a baby? | ||
| I don't know if I can... | ||
| I couldn't pay attention through that. | ||
| No, that was tough. | ||
| That was tough. | ||
| I was listening to that, preparing the episode, and I had to stop a couple times. | ||
| How long was the interview? | ||
| Maybe, I don't know, half an hour or so. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| But I just kept being like, I cannot do this. | ||
| I'm so bored. | ||
| This is such a transparent thing. | ||
| It was very unappealing. | ||
| Uninteresting. | ||
| But, I mean, you see the direction that the show is going. | ||
| It's accelerating full steam ahead on trying to create panic surrounding the coronavirus. | ||
| It's full steam ahead, monetizing it, whether it be through real dicey-headed areas with the silver and just overt, very shameless food sales. | ||
| I predict that's the... | ||
| I will... | ||
| This is the one time that I will say that they are not shameless. | ||
| It does seem like they... | ||
| Oh, it does seem like a little... | ||
| He's very shameful. | ||
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Yeah, a little bit. | |
| A little bit. | ||
| It does seem like this is shameful grifting. | ||
| It's shameless and shameful at the same time. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's kind of weird. | ||
| Yeah, he is the yin and the yang together in one. | ||
| He is the Buddha of grifting. | ||
| Now, I expect this to continue, but I also think that on Wednesday, our episode is going to be... | ||
| Why the fuck do I make predictions? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But by then, Brexit will have actually happened. | ||
| Whereas this was earlier in the day. | ||
| So maybe he'll have some feelings then. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Also, the Iowa caucus will happen. | ||
| And no matter who ends up winning that thing, I think Alex is going to have some feelings. | ||
| Might. | ||
| Might. | ||
| Might have something to say. | ||
| I predict that our next episode is going to be a lot about the Iowa caucuses. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| We're going to show up and do the episode. | ||
| It's going to be about bees. | ||
| It might. | ||
| It really might. | ||
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Who knows? | |
| It's entirely possible that the Chinese government is hiding their murder of all the bees using this coronavirus. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Who knows? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So we'll see. | ||
| But we'll be back. | ||
| But until then... | ||
| We have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| Yeah, it's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Now go to bed, Jordan. | ||
| We are also on Facebook. | ||
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| And if you'd like to down the show, please go to iTunes, leave a review, do the whole thing, donate. | ||
| We love it. | ||
| You guys are great. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Leon? | ||
| I can't remember a character's name. | ||
| From Resident Evil. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |