January 31, 2020’s Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ baseless conspiracy theories—pedophilia claims against Adam Schiff, fabricated bioweapon links (Umbrella Corp meme), and FDA-unapproved nano-silver sales—while exposing his contradictory narratives (Bernie Sanders as both a "leftist authoritarian" and a victim of DNC theft). Jones frames coronavirus panic as government-driven, despite debunked claims like GSA stockpiling food or "corona" meaning raccoon, and pivots to self-promoting Infowarstore.com. His fear-mongering, from Mar-a-Lago shootings to Trump’s "sex operatives," reveals a pattern of monetizing misinformation under the guise of liberty. [Automatically generated summary]
I'm overdoing this just because right before we started recording, I informed Jordan that I woke up this morning and realized I had no idea that today, as we're recording this, is the day of the Super Bowl.
And like, so in the surrounding context of this, you have that day will be when the Senate votes on whether or not to have witnesses in the impeachment trial.
So I've been like, you know, listening to other things, trying to find episodes that might be interesting to go over, but I just feel like if we don't stick around in the present, we run the risk of missing some things.
So before we get down to business today, Jordan, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
Well, the United Nations is working with the globalist client state of China to standardize worldwide martial law policies.
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Personally, I think myself and the Director General have never seen the scale, commitment of an epidemic response at this level in terms of all of government involvement across all of the different arms of government, with the tremendous support being poured into Wuhan and Hubei from the central government with a highly organized emergency management structure.
The challenge is great, but the response has been massive.
And the Chinese government deserves huge credit for that response and for the transparency in which they have dealt with this.
A case in point, in terms of one of the clusters of infection that we're currently working with Germany to investigate, it was the lab in China who contacted Germany to tell them that they had a return case that was positive.
So China is not only helping to manage the cases in its own country, but it is actively ready.
Also, of course, the World Health Organization is working with China on this outbreak.
I don't understand.
Why is that like some sort of like, what does Alex expect him just to be like, I will wing it?
Fuck it.
The part that Alex plays there is this World Health Organization representative talking about how quickly the Chinese government recognized the virus, identified it, found its genome, and shared the genome with the rest of the world so people could identify it if it pops up in their regions.
Of all the things in this whole story, I don't know how information sharing is something that Alex is taking issue with.
It does seem like otherwise, I'm going to freak out and start yelling, and we're going to have to restart the show, which isn't the thing that can be done with live broadcasts.
If I was casting someone as a pedophile in a movie, there's only one person that on the bill as a top star as a pedophile.
You know, you had a movie about a pedophile that kidnaps kids and keeps them in basements and tortures them and eats them.
Stelter or Schiff?
Because when you really get down to it, I really feel like this is illegal.
The most creepy, demonic, filthy, make your skin crawl, pieces of garbage that rape America, rape the truth, want our children, want our guns, and are quarterbacking the psychic gang rape of the planet.
I told you I'm going to reset.
I'm going to come back.
This is not the show you just saw.
Just a little screw-ups in here, and Schiff can't handle it.
So the article in InfoWars, unsurprisingly, was written by Paul Joseph Watson, who found a CNN tweet to complain about.
The tweet is about how the pictures that Trump tweeted out where he was being briefed about the coronavirus situation by a panel of experts was legitimately all white men, with one white woman appearing to be at the meeting in the back row.
The CNN tweet links to an opinion piece on CNN about how striking this image is and how commonplace it's become in Trump's administration to only see white people in positions of authority or even close to power or official dome.
No one is mad that they were trying to work on the virus situation.
It's just an op-ed that's pointing out how Trump tweeted this picture along with the caption calling them, quote, the world's best, the best experts anywhere in the world.
As the article expresses, quote, the recent photos of the best experts telegraph the kinds of people the administration deems worthy of holding power or even being in close proximity to it.
The article ends, quote, the visuals that have come to define the Trump administration say something else, too.
They signal which people in a multiracial, half-female country Trump values the opinions of, mostly white men who are mirror images of the president himself.
Paul takes this pretty short op-ed on CNN, which mirrors points that people have made pretty consistently about Trump's administration, going all the way back to day one.
And this is how he comments on it.
This is from the article.
Quote, according to CNN, the real concern about the coronavirus is not the potential for a global pandemic.
It's the fact there are too many white people trying to stop it, which is not accurate at all.
He says later in his piece, quote, apparently, wanting to not appear racist is more important than stopping a rapidly spreading global pandemic, which has now reached at least 23 countries.
This is yet another example of how diversity means less white people.
At the heart of this flagrantly racist premise that people should not be judged on the content of their character, but on the color of their skin, and that people with white skin should be discriminated against.
At the end of the sentence, when you say that diversity just means less white people, which I should pull out, is a common neo-Nazi white supremacist talking point.
At the beginning of the sentence, you make a very incoherent sort of point.
In order to drive home his point, the people weren't having this kind of bullshit, like what CNN was throwing around, Paul posted some response tweets from the people.
Gad Saad, if you don't know, is a dude who's mostly notable for being a frequent SJW anti-feminist, SJW bashing, anti-feminist guest on Joe Rogan's podcast, who got super pissed off when he wasn't included in that Barry Weiss piece about the intellectual dark web.
What'll happen if there's something like that here and they try to tell a city, shelter in place, no one's there to help you and you can't have any food.
Looting and burning would begin within hours.
We all know that.
It would look like devils would in Detroit wrapped into the purge for real.
Matt Bracken is a great author, researcher, former Navy SEAL, terrorism expert.
He's been predicting this for a long time, that it's going to break out somewhere in the world like this.
So we got Alex saying that if there was a situation where there was a quarantine or a lockdown in the United States, he's also adding these weird qualifiers where they're like, also you can't have food.
There's a societal breakdown that's going to happen immediately in the United States should anything like this happen.
Now, as an expert on the topic, I'm going to bring in noted weirdo Matt Bracken, who's been yelling about a race war and the collapse of civilization for years is a guest.
The campaign is red ice.
He's a fucking lunatic weirdo.
So, of course, we'll get him in to talk about this public health situation.
I read an article from a researcher who was describing the work he did on basically like what happens in catastrophes.
Excuse me.
What happens in small-sized catastrophes?
And everybody who is poor, essentially, bands together, works together, respects everybody around them.
It's the rich people who are like, if we don't control these poor people, they're going to start burning and looting everything in seconds.
And they called it elite panic.
And that was basically he puts that towards so many different catastrophes that have happened and been like, see, this is how they fucked us because they are so separate from the rest of humanity.
Like you and I, if we were in an emergency, let's say we don't know each other, we probably could do better surviving together than if we fought each other for whatever we need to survive.
Here's where Alex is going to run into trouble with his entire premise.
Sanders is also supposed to be a leftist authoritarian in the Infowars universe.
So now you have the leftist authoritarian DNC Democratic establishment who's trying to screw over Bernie Sanders for some reason, although he is also a leftist authoritarian.
But why is it the case that the Democratic establishment, which is really just the globalists who are trying to push socialism in order to lead to communism and then authoritarianism and then rounding up Alex and his friends?
If that is their goal, why would they screw over a Democratic socialist who's running for president?
And he doesn't really spend any time trying to break it down.
It's because he's established in the past this anti-DNC, anti-democratic establishment talking point in this narrative that they screwed over Sanders in 2016.
It's already in the Infowars canon in terms of talking points, in terms of things the audience believes and accepts.
And so because of that, he's trying to go back to the well for that, not recognizing that it makes no sense.
accidentally praising him by praising him so much in the last election they can't then because you can always just pull up a clip where they're like they were stealing it because he has good ideas and all that shit and it's like they were trying to mask the outright anti-Hillary stuff that they were perpetuating by praising Sanders in the 2016 primary And that would optically come back to hurt them, but it doesn't matter.
I'm just saying that as a general sense of priming people, everybody was primed to hate Hillary Clinton, and they accidentally primed them to be far more apathetic to Sanders.
From everything I could tell, Amazon is not price gouging surgical masks.
Are you sure?
I just checked, and there's one you can get a 50-pack for $17.99.
There's another brand with a 125-pack for $89.75.
I have no idea what Alex is talking about, but I assume he's just imagining that Amazon jacked up their prices to gouge people and that he's the noble hero because he didn't do the thing that Amazon also didn't do.
I imagine that it's possible that some resellers on Amazon might have gouged prices, but I see no evidence of that when I was looking over things.
What's interesting, though, is that even if they did do that, the structure of Amazon almost guarantees that their gouging strategy wouldn't work.
The only way gouging works is if there's a scarcity of options.
You need to be selling something that people can't easily get from someone else.
But the way the Amazon marketplace works assures that there will almost always be someone else selling the thing you're trying to gouge the price of, which will likely lead to no one buying your price-inflated shit to begin with.
It almost has a built-in safety from that.
It doesn't always work, but it's fairly effective.
Amazon was criticized after Hurricane Irma in 2017 when things like bottled water were posted with very high prices.
There were clear instances of price gouging.
This was not Amazon's doing.
It was the work of third-party vendors who use Amazon to sell their items.
In response to this, Amazon took action to be more proactive against vendors who engage in these sorts of practices.
But honestly, given Alex's alleged political philosophy, he should not have a problem with price gouging, specifically on Amazon.
For him to be against price gouging on Amazon, here's what he has to believe: you have a business that sells a product.
They want to have access to more potential buyers.
So they use a platform like Amazon to cast a wide net.
For Alex to believe that price gouging is wrong, he has to believe that it's appropriate for the platform, Amazon, to be able to dictate the price at which this business is able to sell its own product.
That's nowhere near a free market position.
The libertarian position, generally speaking, is very pro-price gouging.
To give you some idea of their take on it, the Mies Institute published a piece in 2017 right after Irma titled, There's Nothing Moral About Opposing Price Gouging, with price gouging in quotes, as if to imply it's silly to think it's a real thing.
There was definitely more than one article published by the Mies Institute defending price gouging in September 2017, which I think is really awesome.
Alex Jones for years has pretended to be a libertarian, and he fetishizes the imaginary free market, but he fails to understand even the basic aspects of this belief system he claims to have.
I think that's probably a wise decision because if he actually believed the shit he pretends to, he'd have to openly denounce the Civil Rights Act, support child labor, and if he follows the Mies school, he'd have to believe that, quote, a parent does not have the right to aggress against his child, but also that the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children.
Alex took on the label of libertarian, never really considering the completely fucked up things that are entailed by applying its primary beliefs to real world situations.
And in that sense, he's never really been a libertarian.
He's been a libertarian in the same way that that guy you knew in college who liked weed too much to be on the right, but was a little too racist to swing with the left was.
And from what I can tell, I'm not sure it's a real group.
It seems like a name that's thrown around to denote someone who seeks to embody the vibe of a guy wearing camo.
In one post discussing the upcoming, at that point, Virginia gun rally from January 20th, the poster discusses how it would be a coming together of, quote, businessmen slash professionals, the local boy in blue jeans and a t-shirt, the FUD in his coveralls and a straw hat, the Mossy Oak militia, and the tactical gear guys.
It seems to me that this is just sort of a designation for right-wing cause players who put on fatigues for rallies.
I might be wrong in that Bracken is actually talking about a real group, and if so, that's even more fucked up, since that means that Alex is allowing a guest on his show to shout out a private militia.
From your own research, do you think it's man-made?
Do you think it escaped from a lab?
Do you think it's a natural mutation?
Why is it being hyped up?
I mean, gut level, what do you think this virus is?
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I think at a huge pandemic like this today, you know, it almost is a moot point, whether it's natural or man-made, because I don't understand why that's true.
Do you really know the truth?
There's never going to be a record that comes out that everybody believes.
There's nothing in his background that really makes him qualified to speak on whether or not a coronavirus is man-made, which makes him the perfect guest for Alex to ask that question to.
They aren't interested in reality or analysis.
They're interested in extreme weirdos saying sensational things to drive sales.
I went to a wedding in Maine, and it was held at this summer camp place where religious kids would go.
And I remember this incredibly striking scene where the woman who works there is making a fire.
She works there.
She makes fires every night, every summer for her entire tenure there.
And she's trying to make this fire, and four different dudes are walking in there and like, hey, how about you try using some newspaper and shit like that?
And it's like that aggressive white dude expertise in nothing.
You know, there's always going to be theories that are competing.
So I would say, you know, sure, it could be snake to bat to man, or it could be the Canadian bio research lab to Wuhan Biochem Lab or research lab, and then it gets out.
You know, it infects somebody in the lab, and they go home, and it gets out that way.
There's science, and then there's a load of bullshit that Alex and Bracken throw around to spread fear and sell their shit.
This is a really dishonest framing device that Matt Bracken's using, where there's an insistence that dumb, completely baseless stuff that's discussed on Infowars is exactly the same as the work researchers at the CDC are doing.
There's literally no difference to them between the head of the World Health Organization and John fucking Rappaport.
We've discussed this in the past, but suffice it to say that experts do not agree with Alex and his assertions that shutting down travel is the best way to practice containment of an outbreak.
It's pretty well understood in the academic community, which is why when you hear people who are insistent that travel should be shut down, it's a pretty fair assumption to make that they're either not very informed or they just want travel shut down for other reasons.
So it's something that people, that's only one of the factors that, and you've got to consider how much it would disrupt economics if Trump stopped all travel from China.
That is inaccurate because the people from those countries can still, as I understand it, the article that I read was saying that they can still apply for like visitor immigration.
Sure, sure, sure.
Is being stopped from Nigeria or Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan, and Myanmar, and the people from Sudan and Tanzania will not be allowed to apply for lottery visas.
Right.
So, you know, he's still creeping towards this thing.
So Alex talks a little bit about the impeachment stuff, and he's pretty convinced that they're going to vote to acquit that evening, Friday evening, 31st.
That's pretty standard of his position.
And it's interesting because he doesn't really have much to add to the entire thing, but he does try to rewrite his own history.
There have been an incident in Mar-Lago, Donald Trump's property in Palm Beach, or his winter White House, Florida, according to local news reports involving gate crashing and shots being fired.
WSVN News 7 reported the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office sources said there was an incident at Mar-Lago in Palm Beach that just happened 30 minutes ago.
Someone ran the northern checkpoint near the property and the deputies fired at this person.
The journalists said on the air, Secret Service officials have fired at the person as well.
The person who's sources believe is a woman was still able to get away.
Officials are saying the person ran from the scene and is still out there.
And could be just somebody off their medication that's happening.
Whatever the case has little to do with Mar-a-Lago.
That's really just a coincidence.
Anyway, later in the show, Alex gets an update on this, and he has some more of the details, but it really still feels like he wants to push this as a Trump.
This could have just been somebody that was going the wrong way, not paying attention.
They could have been drinking and could have been driven in and driven out.
And then you do that in a secure area like that.
You're going to get shot at.
That's sad, but there's going to be collateral damage in a climate where they're saying Trump is literally Hitler and having a nation is Hitler.
And then the only person with any connection to Hitler we see is George Soros, who literally was a Nazi collaborator and said it was the best time of his life.
And then he finances a whole network saying Trump is Hitler.
You kind of get the sense there that like the narrative he's more interested in telling is the one where this is an example of blowback from Soros funding everybody to tell Trump, tell them Trump's Hitler.
You know, I'm not bragging, but I was actually on the road to being like a top voiceover guy.
I mean, I was voicing major trailers, stepper films, TV ads, insurance company commercials.
But as soon as you're the Alex Jones criticizing Obama, right when Obama got in, I mean, I made one year $890,000 because I was in the half-tar, you know, the whole Writers Guild whole deal for voiceovers.
And so it would go through that.
And a lot of this place got built on voiceover money.
But that's what happened as soon as I criticized Obama, like a spigot, the jobs went off.
So according to ZipRecruiter, the national average salary annually for a working voiceover artist is $65,000.
Only 7% of working VO people make over $198,000 a year.
And these would be your big names in the field.
The idea that Alex Jones made $890,000 in a year doing voiceover work is laughable.
None of the stories about him discussing his early years in public access or local Austin radio, none of them mention his ridiculously explosive voiceover career.
There aren't credits to his name from that period you can find, which would be the case if he'd done any work in films or TV.
By the time Obama was elected, Alex was already years into being a pretty widely known lunatic.
He put out his Bohemian Grove film in 2000, and after 9-11, he was cemented in his images of 9-11 conspiracy theorist.
Alex wants the image to be that he criticized Obama and lost about a million dollars a year in his side hustle because the only real currency in right-wing media is victimhood.
He needs you to think that he's been oppressed for his political positions, but unfortunately, he's making all of this up.
So the figures that he comes up with just sound comical.
If Alex made $800,000 in a year doing voiceovers, he would have legitimately been one of the top people in the field.
Like, I can't stress this enough.
There would have been so many pieces about him in trade magazines.
I'm not saying that Alex doesn't have some skills with voiceover, just that the only places I believe he's practiced this art are in his own films and Infowars commercials.
Because there's a, you know, there's a little, here's a little trade secret that I know from my time trying to get into voiceovers.
Dudes with voices like mine and Alex's are not in high demand.
It's a super competitive area of the market because there's already a ton of very established voice actors with deepish, gruff voices.
So even if Alex did have a decent voice, no one would care.
He'd be guy number 5,000 who fits that mold.
And in order to get any work, he'd need a really good voiceover agent, and he'd have to be working on it full-time.
Look, what's important here, other than Alex being attracted to Mila Jovovich, is there's a meme going around where a facility has a logo similar to the Umbrella Corporation's logo.
And that has convinced some dumb-dums that it must mean that this real world lab is creating a bioweapon, much like the Umbrella Corporation did with the T-virus in Resident Evil.
The meme that went around was claiming that this place with the Resident Evil style logo was the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
But it clearly says, if you look at the uncropped image, Shanghai on the front of the building, that's because it's actually a biotech lab in Shanghai, which is about 500 miles away from Wuhan.
Also, Snopes looked into it, and it doesn't even appear that this biotech lab in Shanghai is even open anymore.
Seems like it's gone out of business.
Geek Culture, the website, posted an article about this lab having a logo similar to the Umbrella Corporation in June of last year.
And in the same article, they discuss a skincare clinic in Vietnam having an identical logo to Umbrella, even down to the colors.
And there's actually even another article about that skincare company in Vietnam from 2017 about it.
The part there at the end, Alex is misunderstanding another meme when he says that you translate Corona to raccoon.
In reality, the meme is that Corona is an anagram of raccoon.
Oh, Jesus Christ, which is the name of the city where there's the outbreak in Resident Evil, Raccoon City.
And he's so desperate to blame his imagined enemies for this that he sinks to this level of shitheady, pretending dumb hoax memes some idiot posted online are worth anyone's time.
This is the best work Alex can do because he's not even trying anymore.
He doesn't do any research, he doesn't prepare anything outside of his show.
He just shows up and gets mad at a picture of fucking Adam's shift and pretends it's not the show.
All of his information comes from dumb memes and headlines he reads on websites run by his employees who have zero editorial standards and tend to just make shit up.
And so this is what you get for the show: dumb memes presented as research and Alex yelling about his feelings.
Where this came from, a lot of experts believe, and shadowy groups tied to the U.S. military and tied to thefts in Canada of a coronavirus genome, RNA, is now being tracked back to this company.
And you've had four releases of coronaviruses before.
They also claimed for almost two months until earlier this week that it had originated in a seafood market in Wuhan.
That locals had contracted it from animals in, say, bat soup or snake tartare.
That is not the case.
The Lancet published a study last weekend demonstrating that of the original 40 cases, 14 of them had no contact with the seafood market, including patient zero.
As one epidemiologist said, that virus went into the seafood market before it came out of the seafood market.
We still don't know where it originated.
Could have been another seafood market.
Could have been a food processing company.
I would note that China, that Wuhan also has China's only biosafety level four super laboratory that works with the world's most deadly pathogens to include, yes, coronavirus.
First, like we talked about on the last episode, the Lancet study that Alex is referencing doesn't say that the coronavirus has a 15% mortality rate, just that among the 41 patients that were in their sample set who came from a pool of people who had pneumonia and tested positive for the virus, they had a 15% mortality rate.
That's not applicable to the general population in any way.
And it's good that Alex doesn't believe that there's a 15% mortality rate, but it's super dishonest to claim that Lancet is saying that.
Second, Alex is saying that this lab with the Resident Evil logo is the lab that Tom Cotton is mentioning in Wuhan, but it's not.
This is a lie being spread to make the Wuhan lab more suspicious as the source of the outbreak.
Alex is acting like it's weird that there would be a big biolab in Wuhan, but what the, like, come on.
It's a city of 11 million people.
It's not like it's some kind of a rural spot where it would be weird to see such a lab.
It makes total sense that it's there.
And no matter how many times he implies it, that lab is not the same one as the one in Shanghai, which probably doesn't even exist anymore.
Third, coronavirus was not stolen from a lab in Winnipeg in Canada and sent to Wuhan.
This is a lie that went around on right-wing media based on a CBC report that did not say even close to that.
So what you can see here is all of this getting muddled up and mixed together to form some kind of a unified conspiracy theory.
It's not true that the scientists in Winnipeg sent coronavirus to Wuhan.
And it's not true that this lab with the Resident Evil logo is in Wuhan.
But when you combine them, it's now true that a Canadian scientist sent coronavirus to the Umbrella Corporation.
As for what Tom Cotton was saying in that clip, it's fair to say that it's still unclear exactly where the coronavirus came from.
Initially, there seemed to be a trend that a lot of patients had exposure to that seafood market.
So to quote Lancet, quote, exposure history to the Hunan seafood market, wholesale market, served as an important clue at the early stages, yet its value has decreased as more secondary and tertiary cases have appeared.
None of this means what Alex wants it to mean.
He's playing this clip to imply that the seafood market was a red herring that was deployed and that the lab in Wuhan must be the source of the outbreak.
But none of that's substantiated outside of Alex's guesses and implications that are not founded.
I woke up at 3.30 in the morning last night with all this stuff going on, drank some coffee, took a shower, went and walked around the local golf course that's next door.
Came back about 5 a.m. and sat down with an iPad, had another cup of coffee, and I went to Infowars.com and saw a Kellen McBreen article he put out like, yep, last night I'd missed.
And I watched it twice.
And believe me, I don't have 45 minutes to watch it 20-something minute twice.
I watched it and I was like, I got to get this guy on tomorrow, but there's all the shoes breaking news.
But I said, this is important because what it illustrates for everybody, it's like a skeleton key or a Rosetta Stone.
But I'm going to get Ezra Levant's take on the impeachment of Trump, the trial, the virus first in this segment.
Then we'll get to what we're talking about when we come back.
But I mean, I don't have enough words to describe how these senior former federal police now attach another federal group, 30-year veteran royal mounties in their suits, sit there and act like something out of a movie about the old Soviet Union or Nazi Germany.
I mean, it's, it's, or, or it's, it's like that scene when Mr. Anderson in the first Matrix meets the Agent Smith.
I mean, I watched this and it's, it's, it's, it's horrifying.
And then I went and read like hundreds of comments on YouTube.
I sat there and then, you know, my kids start waking up and come in like 6.30.
There's a lot that's interesting about this clip, and I should probably explain what the context is.
But I think the most important takeaway, I think, is that Alex got caught up spending hours reading YouTube comments.
He's a 45-year-old man who pretends he does real research, and somehow he feels like YouTube comments are in any way a barometer of truth or public opinion.
That would legit be like me saying something Trump did was bad, then saying that I read a bunch of Twitter responses as proof of it, and still trying to maintain that I was at all a serious person.
Regardless, this was a problem because according to the Canadian Elections Act, what he did may have been a violation of election law.
According to the letter that Ezra posted on his website that he got about this, the commissioner of Canadian Elections sent him a letter saying, quote, the allegations are that Rebel News contravened the act by, one, failing to include the required information on third-party election advertising, and two, having incurred over $500 in election advertising expenses, failing to register as a third party in the 43rd general election.
To break it down, the allegation is that the book and the marketing of the book amounted to political advertising for or against a candidate.
And in order to publish such materials in Canada, you have to register as a third-party election advertising entity.
When it comes to the publication of the book, it's particularly relevant whether or not the book was planned to be published, whether or not there was an election.
And this seems to be one of the central questions of why this letter was sent, informing Levant that an investigation was being opened.
Something that's probably not working in Levant's favor is that there is a clip of him that's referenced in his interview with these investigators, where he specifically said that he wanted to get the book out for the election.
That makes it kind of clear that he was trying to do election advertising with the book.
It's a really sad look, but it's exactly the performance you need to really get that conservative victimhood juice flowing.
And I can see why Alex watched it multiple times.
It would be like crack to him.
I watched the whole video.
It's annoying.
And Ezra Levant comes off like a scam artist baby.
But also, he seems to be editing the footage to intentionally obscure an element of the case.
It seems like the interview viewers are less interested in the publishing of the book, per se, and more interested in the advertising of the book.
If you write a book about Trudeau being corrupt, then advertise it with a ton of signs and posters everywhere, with Trudeau stylized as the Soprano's DVD cover, it's going to be indistinguishable from a flyer posted by a competing political party.
That seems to be where their interest lies, in how the fact that he wanted to get the book out before the election and that his advertising materials were basically political advertisements.
That's the vibe that I get from their question.
And Levant is in a bad position in terms of trying to defend himself because, based on the way the act is written, it's pretty clear that he's contravened the act.
Right, right, right, right.
The bottom line is that there is a law that Levant is very likely in violation of.
It's a law that sounds weird to American ears, perhaps, but it's part of the Canadian election law, and he has every reason to know that.
All you really need to know if you want to understand this is to watch the first two minutes of the video that he put out and Alex watched twice.
It's kind of a sizzle reel of him sassing the interviewers.
Then you get Levant talking to a camera, and he tells people that if they want to read the letter that the elections board sent him, they have to go to saverebelnews.com.
This website is just a fundraising website.
The top link is for people to send him Bitcoin.
It's all just Trudeau is trying to take me down.
And then, quote, there's no way I could pay our free speech legal fees without the help of you and thousands of other supporters like you.
So if you use the form below, you can chip in whether it's $10, $100, or even more.
This entire website, built around the video Alex is promoting of Levant being a baby in this interview, is specifically about raising money for some imaginary free speech stand he's taken against Justin Trudeau.
This is textbook free speech grifting if there's ever been a case.
It looks like he's guilty of violating election law.
He's been warned that there might be a penalty for his actions, so instead of trying to start a movement to change this law, he's fundraising about his plight.
Overturning that law seems like a really dumb idea because any billionaire who wanted to get around to election regulations could just put out a half-cooked, 124-page book to use as an excuse to put up a ton of unregulated election materials masquerading as book ads.
But I don't know how those things would implicate the actual case.
I mean, I think based on just the information that's available from his edited video, the investigators have evidence that he's indicated he wanted to get the book out for the election.
I know, but as we know now, Dan, just because you go on TV and admit that you committed a crime doesn't mean that you can be punished for that crime or even accept responsibility for it at all.
Also, that letter that Ezra received from the Elections Commissioner was very explicit that this is not a criminal matter.
From the letter, quote, the fact that the commissioner has decided to proceed by way of an administrative investigation indicates that he's of the view that this is a matter best dealt with administratively rather than by way of a criminal prosecution.
There's no intention to charge Ezra Levant with a crime or charge him and throw him in prison.
There's only an intention to sort out whether or not the advertising campaign surrounding his book was against election law.
And look, I get why Ezra Levant would make a big deal out of this, and it's because he looks really guilty, and he's a big old baby.
Think just widespread awareness of these people's patterns of deceit and shitheadery, I think is probably the only thing that is like really powerful against this because otherwise wielding the mechanisms of the state become really difficult because then they get to pretend they're victims of the state.
Ezra doesn't seem to understand the issue, which that's me being glib.
He fully understands the issue, but he's pretending not to, because if he reveals that he does understand the issue, he'd have to admit that he probably broke election laws.
That exemption that he's talking about that exists for books and advertising of books, it only exists if the book was going to be released, whether or not an election was happening.
If the book is specifically released for an election, as Ezra has said is true of his own book, it is no longer eligible for that exemption because it is, in essence, an election advertisement.
And that would all be totally fine for him to do that, to release this book and do all these advertisements.
He would just have to register as a third-party political advertiser.
The reason that he has this investigation going is because his actions strongly imply that he wasn't eligible for the exemption he's claiming he's covered by.
The standard isn't if you're a political action group, as I understand from reading the statute.
When you're putting these things out, like if you're a website primarily, it's size, it's size of website that is the determinative factor if you need to register for this third-party political advertising designation.
Sure.
And in this case, I believe it was the threshold is like 3 million hits if you're an English language website, which they are above.
And I do not care to listen to any more of him because this whole thing, the whole thing is just a right-wing agreement fantasy being played out, perpetuated in order to direct money to Ezra Levant.
I am blown away by how evil the deep state is and how sick they are and how filthy they are and how lying and stupid.
And then it hits me.
These people have been winning for a long time.
They have been absolutely dominating us.
And so that makes me feel like a wimp.
Because I don't have something to prove, but I also am not going to lay down.
And again, there's a lot of guys can kick my ass, okay?
But I remember being a little kid and getting off the bus in like sixth grade, fifth grade, and kids were three, four years old getting on me and beating me up and stuff until that moment when you looked at me weird because he's saying he was 10 years old.
But the point is that this ad could be a problem for Alex, even if the claims that he's making about nano silver are substantiated or not.
Like, it doesn't really matter.
From the limited amount of scientific research I'm able to do, it does seem like there have been some studies that have shown some indications that nanometals have a potential with viruses and bacteria.
But that isn't the part to be concerned about.
It's the fact that he's selling the nano silver product in the way he is by directly linking it.
And that clip to SARS and later he's going to with the coronavirus.
In 2014, Dr. Rima Labo, former Alex Jones guest and wife of General Stubblebein, received a letter from the FDA and the Department of Health and Human Services warning her that the way that she was selling her nano silver was a problem.
She was promoting the silver in a way that was understood to be, quote, for use in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease.
And because of that, she was no longer selling a supplement.
She was selling a drug.
And as it turns out, there are different rules about how you can sell drugs, particularly as it relates to interstate commerce when you do.
This letter was sent to her during the time when Ebola was the hot virus on the scene for the medical scammers.
So she was pitching it as an Ebola remedy.
In her sales pitches, she mentions a very similar sounding release from the Department of Defense, though she says it was from 2009, which is a little off from Alex's timeline.
She makes it 13 years ago, 2007.
It's important to recognize that it's immaterial if Alex thinks his claims that he's making are backed by a study.
This is an issue of what he's required to do if he's selling a drug.
He has to get FDA approval for the sale of the product if he's engaging in this sort of sales.
In addition to FDA approval, if Alex is selling a drug, he's required to label his bottles with known side effects, contraindications for the drug, drug interactions, etc.
I went to the Infowar store and looked at Alex's labeling for his immune gargle that he's selling with a silly name.
And it doesn't include any of those things.
In fact, it has a warning that the claims he makes have not been evaluated by the FDA, which you can't do if this is a drug.
It's weird because if you look at the label for his super silver wound gel, there is a statement that it's been evaluated and is effective against staph infection, E. coli, MRSA, and a few other things.
Weird that he would label that one correctly as a drug, and his nano-silver mouth gargle has the standard supplement labeling.
Yet he's selling it as if it's a drug.
And then you have to consider the fact that there are some dissenting voices on the matter of nano-silver and nanotechnology and supplements as a whole.
I'll read to you from an article here.
Quote, however, nanotechnology carries risks, the primary one being lung damage.
Studies have shown that most nanoparticles migrate to the lungs.
Other organs are susceptible to damage as well.
Scientists have found that sometimes an overactivity of this destruction process leads to cell death.
Nano silver may damage mitochondria, which leads to DNA damage.
Until further evidence concludes nanoparticles safe, it may be best to use what has been true and tested for several decades and consider colloidal silver without nanoparticles.
That was an article from Infowars.com from December 23rd, 2014.
You see, back then, Alex wasn't selling nano-silver, only colloidal silver.
But in the weirdo, dumb-dumb, fake medicine community, nano-silver was all the rage.
Rima Leibo was selling it as an Ebola cure, and people were excited about this new breakthrough.
But since Alex didn't have a stake in the market, his messaging was that it was dangerous and you should just use colloidal silver.
Or you can go back to 2008 and find Alex posting an article titled, quote, Scientists Scared as Nanotechnology and Nanoparticles Become Common in Consumer Products.
And the article is all about how there are dangerous side effects to nanosilver, like pollution that kills aquatic ecosystems.
The article says, quote, ionic silver is only toxic to humans at very high levels.
The toxicity of nanoparticle silver, said Westerhoff, has yet to be determined.
Now, the important thing that we're going to get to a little bit later is medical claims can be made about the topical silver gel because that has been evaluated by the FDA and it can be sold as a drug and there are warnings on that appropriately.
That is not true of his other nano silver products.
He's trying to play fast and loose with which product is which.
that's that's god that shouldn't be i i don't know how to police that but a supplement huckster like alex should not also be able to have an fda approved drug No.
Like, it should be, you're either an FDA-approved drug salesman, or I don't know.
You can't, that's so fucked up that you have similarly named products.
So Alex has gotten some sort of letter here that he's reading, but I don't think he read it before he went on air because he's not reading really like important parts of it.
I don't know what's going on here, but this is what he's using to sort of imply that his products are useful against the coronavirus.
But here's the deal: Department of the Army Headquarters, United States Special Operations Command, Tampa Point Boulevard.
And it goes into Andrew C. von Edenbach, Commissioner of Food and Drug Administration.
And they go on to say that with antibiotic resistance and all the rest of it, we have found that this particular type of nano silver is effective against SARS and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Then it goes on here.
The Texas A ⁇ M System Health Science Center.
And it says confidential because they don't want this type of stuff out for a lot of reasons.
And it goes over the fact and says, Dear Secretary Ridge, and they go on to say the Office of Homeland Security, John B. Conley building.
So that A ⁇ M is running a whole secret project for the government.
This report is that the coronavirus, like the SARS, same family virus, Homeland Defense, put out the data that our product could kill that one.
See the above letter from the Director of Homeland Security to the Secretary, Dr. Carlton, ex-Surgeon General Air Force, is a brilliant man who came up with the model hospital system, mobile hospital system.
We only received a copy of it because our testimony before Congress on malaria, and it was included in the addendum of the testimony.
We never received a good copy, but we did get a copy, and it's worth reading.
They focus on a large part of their business is medical applications of silver.
They have an FDA approval for the wound dressing gel, but that use of nano-silver is topical, and it's not the same nano-silver that is in Alex's products that are taken internally.
He cannot take the approach that the, you know, hey, this approval is here for the gel and then just apply it to other products because they're both silver and made by the same company.
That is not cool.
He cannot do that.
Also, interestingly, American Biotech Labs uses SilverSol, which, you know, for its nanotech, nano-silver supplements.
Guess what?
That is exactly the same nano-silver that was used in Rima Labo's products, which earned her a warning from the FDA in 2014 for getting too far down the road.
Alex is starting to go down.
The more details Alex gives out, the more it looks like he's heading that same direction, which would be great for him because then he could pretend that he doesn't understand rules and play the victim of government oppression trying to wipe out my supplement business.
Also, now that I know where Alex is getting his silver wound gel from, I can compare prices.
You're going to pay $39.95 for a four-ounce bottle, currently marked down to $23.97.
If you buy it from a website like VitaCost without the InfoWars labeling, just the American Biotech Labs product, it costs $27.99 for a four-ounce bottle, currently marked down to $16.96.
And like I said, I think that Alex is getting close to like bad water.
I'm not positive that he's fully in violation of FDA guidelines, but I think he's really fucking close.
And the way he's trying to sort of muddy the water with the wound gel and the gargle is just like it's a fucked up game.
Because the implication and the message that the audience is supposed to get is that the gargle will have the same effect and will kill the coronavirus.
Whereas that is not an FDA-approved thing.
And because he's not explicitly saying that, just dancing around it, I don't know if it's actionable, but the intention is there and it's bad.
We're living in incredible historic times, and I just, when listeners call up and they say, Alex, thank you so much for what you're doing.
They could put a gun to my head.
I wouldn't stop doing this.
You understand that?
Because this is like getting oxygen.
I'm not a huge skin diver, but I've gone down to about 80 feet and come back to the top.
Some people can really go down like a thousand feet and do it because it compresses your blood so that you have more oxygenation, but it's coming back up.
You know, you don't want to get to fight with some big guy starting to fight with you.
But, you know, as soon as they take a swing or as soon as they connect, you're like, you know what, I'm going to beat your ass.
And then it starts.
There's something so satisfying when that bully gets hit really hard and then rallies again and you knock them down again and they all of a sudden they go, yeah, and your foot goes right in their face and rakes their nose and teeth out.
And I don't want to be like that, but I'm telling you, don't thank me for this.
And God didn't want me to stand up there and tell people how pious I am all day or sit there and tell people how I read this many books, the Bible, and I memorize this.
And I've got all God wants me to get up and take on the new world order.
You are good at scaring people in your dedicated audience and moving product because you create pandemonium fears and like relate everything every kind of fear or anxiety people could have, you take, amplify, and direct them to whatever product you want them to buy.
If I were running a survival food company and I was a little bit shady, you better believe I'd be calling out.
Anyway, like, of course, when you have that kind of rhetoric being pushed on the show and you have at least a certain amount of people who believe and trust Alex, it's going to drive sales.
Isn't that just such that, like, this is the psychopathy of capitalism entirely?
Like, these guys are like, I'm definitely going to hitch my wagon to this fucking lying huckster salesman because I'm going to get a few more food buckets out for the next couple of months.
But I think I have some thoughts on it that'll come a little bit later about like, I don't, there's nothing intrinsically wrong about selling survival food.
So I would be prone to say, like, yes, the pursuit of profit does tend to make people behave in ways like getting Alex to sell your food if it works to sell more food.
But that's a side issue to the fact that I've been working with these folks 12 years since they began with a philosophy of high-quality food at low prices.
But the reason I've got them on is why I started getting calls from other food suppliers saying we've sold out.
Big institutional buyers are coming and buying it all up.
But we'll need your listeners to try to buy our product.
What stupid survival company would be like, okay, we're going to call Alex now and we'll have food for him in two months when this entire thing has blown over.
The real reason they're here today is not even to sell you food.
They're selling it out faster than they can get it.
It's to break down the fact that I gave him a call a few days ago and I said, I'm getting calls that the food's selling out and they're gearing up for some big emergency.
Do you know about this?
Can you tell me if there's been big governmental buyers coming to you?
And they said, listen, it's no secret.
We've had the General Services Administration, which I should have said up front, coming to us trying to buy up everything we've got because all the other major food distributors are either sold out or close to selling out.
I don't know why he's not just leaning into this narrative of like, if the institutional buyers are buying up all the food, we're selling it to you to keep them from getting it.
I think it's because Alex is beginning to get some pushback about this.
Well, like there were articles that I saw certainly posted on Twitter where people were making the point that in crises like this, scam artists are opportunistic.
And this is where they try and make their bread.
And the logo, the header image on it was Alex and Mike Adams.
Of course.
So I know that he knows that people are critiquing him for it.
And My Patriot Supply told Alex about this contact that they had.
Now, they talk about that a little bit more specifically in this next clip.
And I mean, if you want to point a finger, you know where to point it.
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This started in November.
I started getting emails, phone calls from different people from the government, basically, trying to get us into a system where you can get GSA contracts to work with the government on making large purchases of storable food.
I'm not critiquing my Patriot Supply guy nearly as much as I am Alex.
But this conversation about, like, yeah, if you're in, let's say, the middle of Missouri, it is wise to have some canned food in your basement in case there's a tornado or something like that.
If you provide or offer survival food for somebody and recognize that in the case of an emergency, you might need this, great.
By all means, sell your product in good health.
If you're selling it by escalating panic surrounding a situation, especially the way Alex is doing, with complete lying about fucking memes about the coronavirus, what you are doing is you're engaging in dishonest business practices.
There's just no other way to put it than you're scamming people.
That's it.
You're exploiting and scamming.
That's like, that's like, to carry your analogy still further, like if you're screaming at a man in the middle of Missouri about fucking volcanoes and saying that that's what you're going to need the food for because the government has a lot of volcanic activity this year.
I've got literally like 15 other food companies contacting me.
And I just said, okay, what's your background?
You got a big supply.
They're like, well, actually, we don't.
You guys do is why I chose you many years ago because I want my listeners to get a good response so they treat me like I want to be treated.
So let's come back and talk about kind of the way this started and how it built up to where it is now where you guys are buying up all the food around the country and got convoys of 18 wheelers going to eat.
This is where it all just like every single thing that he talks about the globalists doing, it seems like you just wait around long enough and he talks about doing it himself.
I can't find that figure anywhere, but I can find a ton of articles about how because of social welfare programs, actually a lot of people were saved from starvation, which Alex probably doesn't want to consider.