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#383: December 31, 2019

Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ December 31, 2019 broadcast—ignoring his $100K contempt fine or the U.S. Embassy storming—while blaming Iran and "deep state" figures like Soros, Kerry, and Clinton without evidence. His erratic shifts from conspiracy theories (e.g., fake embassy video) to religious rants ("Satan vs. God") expose shallow, performative engagement, prioritizing monetization (InfoWars stickers) over accountability or policy depth. Past contradictions—supporting Blackwater’s Eric Prince yet denying ties—undermine his credibility, while Utah’s lone UN job posting morphs into a "Shi-Comm" takeover fantasy. The episode reveals Jones’ show as a formulaic, evasive spectacle, trading substance for spectacle and fearmongering. [Automatically generated summary]

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alex jones
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dan friesen
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jordan holmes
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dan friesen
Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
It is, we are recording this, of course, on New Year's Eve.
dan friesen
Correct.
jordan holmes
Let me ask you a question.
dan friesen
Two.
One.
jordan holmes
Has anything good happened to you this year, Dan?
One good thing?
Let's get some good things.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, a number of good things have happened.
I mean, this show has been a really good thing.
jordan holmes
Right?
This is growing.
dan friesen
Seeing the growth of the show and the wonderful things that you hear from listeners and all that sort of stuff.
It's very, I don't know, moving.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's uplifting.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
unidentified
And also playing Assassin's Creed.
dan friesen
No, I don't know.
unidentified
It's tough.
jordan holmes
It's been tough.
2019 is a rough year to focus on the positive.
dan friesen
I'm trying to think back about other stuff we've touched on on the show.
Like, you know, the plants.
Still no fruit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They're still alive, doing okay.
Last plant watch of the year.
Yep.
They're doing fine, but no fruit.
I don't know what's going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Do we need to close up any narrative arcs around 2019 that we haven't been?
dan friesen
Apartments still noisy.
Plants, still no fruit.
Yeah.
What about you?
unidentified
I think I finished the rough draft of a novel.
dan friesen
That's huge.
jordan holmes
that's huge.
I finished the, it's the first time I finished one and now I'm rewriting it and it's terrible.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, other than that, it's done.
dan friesen
You can always pretend that that's what 2019 was for you.
And just forget about...
jordan holmes
Not worried about getting fired and the whole drama and losing my mind for a tick, you know.
None of that noise.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
That all fades into the background and all that's left.
jordan holmes
And that left.
That led to finishing the rough draft.
dan friesen
That's great.
jordan holmes
Now I'm going to be poor forever.
dan friesen
That's nice.
So let's leave this year behind.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
Just the faint memories of my plants are still alive and you wrote a rough draft.
We're good to go.
jordan holmes
That's all we needed.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, this is a show where I don't know much about the last year, but I do know a bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And I don't know anything about either.
dan friesen
Correct.
So today we got, you know, hey, we're recording this on New Year's Eve.
And I thought, what should we do here?
What should we do here?
And I thought, like, maybe past New Year's Eves of Alex's.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But what's going to be better than the Y2K?
jordan holmes
No, you can't be Y2K.
dan friesen
And we already did that.
jordan holmes
We nailed that one.
dan friesen
Yeah, we did that a long while back.
So I thought, why not see how Alex closes out 2019 on his own show?
So today we're going over December 31st, 2019.
It's a really interesting show.
Alex is in bad shape.
jordan holmes
I imagine so.
I was unable to avoid the very, very bad news he received today.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, let's talk about that for a moment.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He didn't just receive that news.
That news, what we're talking about is there were articles that came out yesterday as we're recording this, so on the 30th, that Alex and InfoWars had been found basically in contempt of court for their deposition behavior, among other things.
And so it added up to penalties of about $100,000 that Alex and InfoWars were facing.
And for all intents and purposes, InfoWars is Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So he's just got hit with a pretty sizable fine that has nothing to do with the outcome of the case.
So like what, you know, if he ends up being found guilty in the civil trial, that's going to be whatever that is plus this $100 or $100,000, which he's on the hook for no matter what.
And so the thing is, I thought about that and I thought about like, of course, we've got to do the 31st because we've got to get Alex's response to that.
But if you read those articles, that ruling came down on December 20th.
Yeah.
So you could go back to our episode about the 19th and 20th and now listen to it with that context and see if you can sense any additional anger.
He just seemed a bit racist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know if that was because of the.
jordan holmes
It's strange.
It's strange that everybody's going crazy now.
And it seemed like he was just being a real dick the same way that he always is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So on our episode today, I thought about the possibility that Alex could be responding to the news of the fine breaking.
But to him, this isn't news.
No.
The fine, he's known about for 10 days up to this point.
So he's had plenty of time to adjust to it.
And I don't really see much of a response to the news breaking in this episode.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
He's just in bad shape in general.
unidentified
Well, I mean, his world's crumbling around him.
jordan holmes
There is that.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I do think it's really cool, though, that the courts do have a mechanism to punish Rob Dew.
jordan holmes
Somebody said something where it's like, I screamed, is this legal?
And it's like, well, he's not going to jail, but no, it is not legal to be that uninformed.
dan friesen
Yeah, it turns out there are consequences for basically playing dumb in a situation where you're required to not play dumb.
jordan holmes
Or sending somebody in who is actually dumb in that situation.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's a positive.
And it also really indicates that Alex is scared of Rob Dew because he just cost him, like, I think that portion of it is like something to the tune of like $60 something thousand dollars.
So either he really doesn't want to answer those questions or Rob Dew is worth $70,000 fines to him because he knows too much.
Any of this is possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Whatever the case, it's nice to see these consequences mounting.
And we'll see how much more ends up coming because I'm certain there will be more.
jordan holmes
It's hard to see them pulling out of this death spiral.
unidentified
That's for sure.
dan friesen
If past is prelude, he's got a lot more fines coming up.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we're going to get down to the 31st.
There's some actually kind of interesting things going on in here, along with I would say that most of this episode is stalling.
jordan holmes
It's stalling?
Yes.
Does he think that there's some sort of like when the clock strikes 12, those fines don't mean anything?
dan friesen
It has nothing to do with the fines.
It really feels like he's trying to run down the clock for most of the show.
Which at a certain point it becomes, why even do it?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
He's just staring at the clocks like somebody waiting till 3 p.m. at high school.
dan friesen
He's got pills to sell, so that's why you run out the clock.
And we'll get down to business on all that.
But before we do, we've got to take a moment to say thank you to some folks who have signed up and are supporting the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's lovely.
dan friesen
So first, Emery, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Emery.
dan friesen
Thanks, Emery.
Next, Zach, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Keep those documents coming, Zach.
dan friesen
Are you talking about the whistleblower?
Oh, yeah.
Not the secret space program.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
He's faded into the background.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Alex has pretended he never existed.
Next, Abigail.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Abigail.
dan friesen
Next, Michael, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Michael.
unidentified
Thank you, Michael.
dan friesen
Next, Mark.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Mark.
dan friesen
I was trying to change up my pronunciation there a little bit.
Man, I missed it.
jordan holmes
I missed the mark.
dan friesen
Sorry, Mark.
Thank you so much.
Next, Frondi.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Frondy.
dan friesen
Thank you, Frondy.
And finally, I'd like to say thank you to someone who signed up on an elevated level, and we appreciate that very much.
So a very special thank you going out to the Gable Family Leftist Support Page.
Thank you so much.
You are now Technocrats.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crikey, Mike, that's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
We got to go full tilt buggy on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
Thank you so much, Gable Family Leftist Support Page.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you to the entire Gable family.
Dark Gable.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Green Gable.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Any other Gables that we got?
dan friesen
And from the Green Gable.
Yeah, I think that counts.
Sure.
If you're out there listening and you're thinking, hey, I like this show.
I'd like to support with these gents too.
You can do that by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the button that says support the show.
We would appreciate it.
jordan holmes
It'd be lovely.
dan friesen
So Alex starts off the show talking a little bit about how he's getting a lot of press, and he's gotten some press.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And you might think, well, some of its press is coming from articles about how you just got fined $100,000.
jordan holmes
You would think that.
dan friesen
Some other press is coming from other avenues.
Alex seems to think that a lot of it has to do with him getting that tank.
alex jones
Two weeks ago.
dan friesen
Also, very serious speech coming up.
alex jones
What is that?
jordan holmes
One-winged angel from FF7?
dan friesen
Jesus.
Very intense.
alex jones
I was standing.
I'm one of the bays.
I'm a warehouse at the InfoWars News Center in Austin, Texas.
And I was watching the armored vehicle roll out.
Jesus the sun.
And knowing that Owen Schroyer and more of our crew were about to get on airplanes and fly to the East Coast to meet it and to engage the globalist Point Black Range.
I can't focus.
And that trip was fabulously successful.
Imagine if we had crews, five or six crews everywhere Trump goes, everywhere the leftist Democrat candidates go taking over the media events.
They can't help it.
All because of one little innovation, like an armored vehicle with mounted bullhorns blasting out.
dan friesen
I don't think I've heard almost anybody talk about Alex having a tank.
jordan holmes
I believe we are the only people who have ever talked about Alex having a tank.
dan friesen
I've seen a couple tweets every now and again, like, look at this.
jordan holmes
Hey, look at this if he wants a tank.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that when he goes to like a Hillary rally, people yell at him in the tank, but I think they'd yell at him anyway.
I don't think it has any like added escalation.
I mean, it is an escalation on some level.
jordan holmes
I have not read anything in the hill about the tank.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's for sure.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Certainly has not been like.
No one's getting into a fit about it.
I think most people think it looks desperate.
That seems to be the, I don't know.
I think that the news coverage that Alex has gotten, you know, largely is about these stalling tactics that he's trying with the Sandy Hook lawsuit.
And then another one was Will Johnson, one of his reporters, pretending to not be an InfoWars employee when he was interviewed and got on the mainstream news.
So, like, yes, okay, you doing shitty things in this lawsuit and your reporters acting like blatantly unethically.
Yes, that is getting people a little bit like, hey, what the fuck is wrong with you?
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
The tank does not.
jordan holmes
I believe it was the tank.
It was the tank.
dan friesen
Non-factor.
jordan holmes
No, everybody saw that tank and they were like, unlike whenever people get a massive hummer or something like that, clearly compensating for something, he is getting that tank because he is right on, baby.
dan friesen
He's trying to make up for his incredible desperation.
So in this next clip, Alex talks about how there's people waking up now, right?
And that's why Infowars needs to stay on the air.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's more or less a sales pitch.
And I really think that there's something very interesting in this.
And after the clip, I'm going to translate for you what he's actually saying.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because it sounds like he's saying something, but he's actually saying something completely different.
alex jones
And we understand just how evil and just how corrupt and just how committed to evil the globalists, their minions are, but a lot of people are still naive to that.
They're awake.
They know they're being lied to, but they haven't really gotten their bearings yet.
People are ready to be fully awoken.
But we have to be there to do it.
And that's why they've taken the incredibly bold, dangerous gamble and implemented the technocracy, the Chinese social score system early against the West.
And it's blown up in their face across Europe, across the UK, and here as well.
dan friesen
So for those of you who don't speak Alex, when Alex says that people are waking up, but they're naive and don't have their bearings, and that's why Alex needs to be on air to guide them and help them.
What he's really saying is that things like the Epstein didn't kill himself meme are serving as prime radicalization pipelines that he can't exploit if he's not on air.
Things like that grow and touch the lives of people who would be otherwise completely unaccessible to Alex's bullshit.
And seeing people starting down that road and not being able to guide them into his revenue stream is driving Alex up a wall.
He's basically saying that these people are money on the table if he can just direct them into his, hey, the globalists are the bad guys.
You know, he's just, it's just money on the table and he needs to be on air to collect it.
jordan holmes
People who are awake but naive are just an untapped revenue stream for him.
Yes.
dan friesen
They are a market that I am not in and I need to be in.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would prefer he brought back John Williams from now on when he's speaking.
dan friesen
As for the social credit score stuff that he's talking about, Alex is just saying that he's mad that his actions have consequences and that companies like Twitter and Facebook don't want him to spread his bullshit on their platform.
That's not a Chinese social credit score.
That's just what happens and should happen more often to people who show that they're incapable of being trusted with platforms.
When Alex is talking, it all sounds like big talk and as if there's some sort of a geopolitical truth behind what he's saying.
But in reality, it's just that he sees money on the table and that people taking him seriously has made it harder for him to get that money.
That's all he's saying there.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Really strip away a lot of the veneer and the pretense and the decorations and the stupid turns of phrase.
It's just there's a lot of fucking suckers that I'm not being able to talk about.
jordan holmes
To get me to them.
They're waiting.
They're ready for me.
They're primed.
They're stoked.
They want to take what I think might be crack.
I have brain force and it might be crack.
dan friesen
What happened to my former lawyer said it's very similar to stimulants, as have I.
And yes.
So let's get everyone on them.
Yes.
So it's kind of an unfocused beginning of the show, but Alex cracks the whip on himself and declares that this is going to be a disciplined broadcast.
alex jones
Okay.
And I'm going to have a more disciplined broadcast because 20 years ago, I was more disciplined, actually.
15 years ago, I was more disciplined.
jordan holmes
True.
alex jones
And I've gotten very undisciplined.
And it's good radio and supporting things get covered.
And we break a lot of new ground.
It's game-changing transmission, the most hated broadcast in the world by evil.
That's really a fact.
Because of that responsibility, we must go to the next level.
dan friesen
And take the show seriously and be disciplined.
Do you want him to make bets on whether or not he follows through this?
jordan holmes
Is that a New Year's resolution?
Is that for the whole thing or just this broadcast?
dan friesen
I think he thinks it is, but he's specifically talking about today's show.
December 31st, this is going to be a disciplined show.
jordan holmes
What's the over?
I'm going to go with three minutes before he goes on a ramble.
dan friesen
I mean, it might not even be that.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Because he starts to get really pedantic about whether or not tomorrow, as we're recording this, January 1st.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is that a new decade?
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Is that a new decade?
jordan holmes
Oh, for fuck's sakes.
That's a disciplined broadcast right there.
dan friesen
He gets really, really hyper-focused on this.
But really, by the end of this clip, you'll see that it's actually just a way of getting into bigotry.
alex jones
We're being told that it is the decade.
jordan holmes
Thanks, John Williams.
alex jones
That's not true.
And I know you know that, but the fact that it was a debate in 1999, the media couldn't wait to say that we ended the second thousand years since Christ's death and resurrection, as we market from Christ's birth.
And they were so excited about saying that we were into a new millennia, not just a new century, that they told everyone that the year 2000, the start of that was the end of the 20th century and the second millennia after Christ.
jordan holmes
We're not doing that.
alex jones
And then the common calendar.
jordan holmes
We're not doing that.
alex jones
Just absolutely not true.
Like saying men can have babies.
They cannot.
Boom.
It was all just to get phobia.
jordan holmes
All right.
I didn't realize.
I didn't realize that the dick at a party in New Year's Eve was like, well, it's not actually the new.
I mean, if you, there is no year zero.
Also, I don't think trans people exist.
Okay, great.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm going to misinterpret that entire conversation that people are having.
Cool.
I think that it's really fun the way Alex is really focused on this.
Yeah.
Because I have a really hard position on this.
On the decade.
Is this a new decade?
And you know what it is?
Who gives a shit?
Who gives a shit?
Same new decade.
I don't really give a shit.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
This time isn't even real, man.
Shut up.
We're having a good time.
dan friesen
You know how we group time decades arbitrarily?
And it's also very up for debate.
You know, like there's a lot of people who believe that the 70s obviously didn't start in 1970 and end in 1979.
Same with the 60s.
jordan holmes
The 70s started in 68 and ended in 76 or whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we colloquially talk about decades in a lot of different ways.
Who cares?
You don't need to be this dickish.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Epochs, eras, they're all based on the base 10 system.
And how dare you.
dan friesen
You're totally right, though.
If I were to hear somebody talking like this, I would either try and fuck with them or leave.
I have no interest in this conversation of, you know, next year's when the decade really starts.
jordan holmes
Did you know the Council of Nicaea took a year away?
So it's not even then.
It's 2000, it's 2022.
dan friesen
I just don't care.
So Alex is mad that people are saying that men can get pregnant.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And of course.
jordan holmes
And that it's a new.
dan friesen
Now, here's where it gets strange.
I believe that a lot of the conversation that surrounds this issue is about people assigned as women at birth who are trans men.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I believe that this is the conversation that I've heard people have.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You know, with someone who is a man that can get pregnant.
jordan holmes
But still has a fully functioning uterus.
dan friesen
And we've seen a couple cases of this that have been in the news.
You know, you see these things come up every now and again, these sorts of situations.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Now, Alex seems to think there's something else going on, which I find trouble.
jordan holmes
They're putting test tube babies inside men.
alex jones
You bet.
jordan holmes
I knew it.
alex jones
Now, with all these genetically engineered artificial wombs that are really just human wombs outside of a woman, can they rig something up and grow some shriveled poor human in there?
jordan holmes
Like the Bennett lives out.
alex jones
Stick that in a man and say, oh, a man had a baby.
Yeah, they can pretty much already do that.
But that man didn't have a baby.
A genetic Frankenstein was created.
And a human soul was abused and tortured by mad scientists hell-bent on playing God.
jordan holmes
Could you back that up with anything?
alex jones
Most people do makeup and hair before they go on air.
I tend to forget about it and do it once I get on air.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
No makeup.
I spent about five seconds coming my hair, which is evident.
dan friesen
That was jarring.
Yeah, I left that in because of just the tumor shift.
It's pretty shocking.
jordan holmes
You can't go from the mad scientist that Dr. Frankenstein's torturing a human soul.
unidentified
And I really should have put my makeup on before I got on air.
dan friesen
Where are these people putting the baby in the man?
jordan holmes
In the stomach?
Where are they putting the soul first?
dan friesen
The shriveled.
jordan holmes
The tortured soul.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I would like him to, yeah, I would like a citation on that.
I would like an explanation, but it does not come.
jordan holmes
It doesn't?
dan friesen
No, because there is big news that has broken in the morning of the 31st, and that is of the protester militia types.
I'm not entirely sure what the correct nomenclature would be.
Still sort of an evolving situation, even as we're recording.
Storming the embassy in Iraq.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex.
jordan holmes
Because they have so many babies in their duodenums, they got to get out.
dan friesen
That might be a part of it.
That's not Alex's report.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I think that this should be a little bit of an iffy case for him.
Okay.
I believe that they're based on the things that he has espoused as his belief system, he should not really have a hard take on this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it seems like he does, and it seems to be that he wants to, like, because Trump has blamed Iran.
Sure.
And so Alex is too.
That's kind of where he's at.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
Continuing, here's the Washington Post.
Protesters chant death to America.
Break into U.S. Embassy compound in Baghdad.
Protesters.
So I guess if I went down to a federal building and broke into it and beat people up and aimed guns at them and then burned something down, I'll just go, oh, I'm a protester.
Of course, I'd get shot dead, and I should be.
Unless I was storming the building, you know, to save kidnap kids or something.
dan friesen
Weird lines.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex talks all the time about how once this shit pops off, they're going to go around killing all the cops and how the book Unintended Consequences is going to come real.
Sure.
All that stuff.
jordan holmes
But if he were to do that, they would be well within their rights to murder him immediately, I believe, is what he just said.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess that's what he asked.
jordan holmes
I think that's what he believes.
dan friesen
Yeah, and at the same time, Alex talks all the time about how our illegal war in Iraq has killed hundreds of thousands of civilians.
jordan holmes
Sure.
And there's no reason that the civilians would have any interest in screaming death to America.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with us.
dan friesen
I think this should be a nuanced case for Alex.
I don't think so.
I don't think that he should have a position of like, this is the globalists trying to do whatever, or like, you know, and trying to make it the Ron's the bad guy.
unidentified
But that is the way he's playing it, which seems weird to me.
jordan holmes
It will never cease to amaze me how many and varied and damn near infinite the amount of mistakes are made towards Iraq and Iran based on singular snap judgments with no nuanced thinking at all and how committed they are to continuing to make them.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's one of the reasons why I don't really want to talk about the actual event all that much because I do not have a good handle on what's going on, nor do I think I really could at the time that we're recording.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
dan friesen
So I'm speaking primarily from Alex likes to make snap judgments.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Alex has expressed various positions in the past.
You'd think that this input would lead to a certain output, and yet it doesn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is weird.
It is very much focusing on Iran being a bad guy.
And then he's insistent on repeatedly comparing it to the Iran hostage crisis in the 70s.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
Right.
And so he brings it up as the only way he can really frame it is: you know, hey, if you don't go in and just shoot these people who are trying to get into the embassy, you're going to allow them to take hostages and then we're back into the 70s.
And so he talks about that.
And then he blames.
jordan holmes
Do you mean we'll be able to get onto planes easier again?
dan friesen
No.
And he blames Soros specifically.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Oh, it's a big one.
That's one way of the deep state could try to derail Trump as another 1979, 1980 hostage crisis with Iran.
Iran's trying to repeat that, obviously.
They're working with elements of the deep state.
John Kerry, George Soros, Hillary Obama, to have shadow policy and to derail what Trump's been doing.
They've admitted that.
dan friesen
Prove any of that.
Can't do it.
jordan holmes
There's only one guy that we can specifically prove has a shadow foreign policy in place.
And it's not the people he named.
dan friesen
No.
I know that later in this episode, Alex says that John Kerry was involved with the Iran deal with the, you know, with the nuclear agreement or the one from the 80s?
No, the nuclear agreement.
jordan holmes
The nuclear agreement.
dan friesen
And that seems to be the only piece of evidence that Alex throws out in terms of like these people are working with Iran to create another hostage crisis.
And like, that doesn't work.
That's not enough.
That's not enough here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean.
dan friesen
To put your shift your little finger pointing to Soros and the deep state and whatever.
It's very thin, and he doesn't support this at all.
And I think that that's one of the reasons that he ends up stalling for almost all of this episode is because he really doesn't want to talk about this story in much specific detail.
And then I don't think he has much else to talk about.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
So he just rambles about how great his staff is for a little bit.
jordan holmes
Why?
They just cost him a lot of money.
dan friesen
One of them did.
Yeah.
He's not talking about Rob.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
In this clip, while bragging, it's about Owen Schroyer.
He's fucking awesome.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So Owen Schroyer is awesome.
And in service of talking about how awesome Owen is, Alex ends up saying a few things that I just can't imagine are true.
alex jones
You know, I'm a fan of our crew.
I've met like Michael Jordan and all these other top Hollywood people, and they're interesting and they've definitely got something about them.
It seems like Owen Schroyer walking on the hall.
I go, wow, that's Owen Schroyer.
That's somebody fighting for my future, my children's future.
That's the guy that has a will not to care what the globals do to him or be deplatformed or be lied about or be demonized.
And he just gets stronger in the face of it.
That's the spirit.
dan friesen
So fake.
I think Owen's got Blackmail on Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's an insult.
That is not a compliment.
He did not compliment Owen Schroyer.
That is an insult to Owen Schroyer.
The idea, the very idea that you would legitimately entertain, I've met Michael Jordan, but let me tell you something about Owen Schroyer.
That is an insult.
That is a veiled insult.
dan friesen
I have two gigantic problems here.
jordan holmes
One is in Owen Schroyer as well.
dan friesen
Now we got three.
One is Alex says Michael Jordan and other top Hollywood people.
jordan holmes
Well, yes.
dan friesen
Because Alex's favorite movie is Space Jam.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I don't know why that's the group.
jordan holmes
Brue Murray's best work.
dan friesen
I don't know why that's the grouping of people.
Michael Jordan and big top Hollywood people.
jordan holmes
The owner of the Charlotte Hornets.
And, of course, Robert Redford.
dan friesen
The second problem.
When the fuck did you meet Michael Jordan?
jordan holmes
I was thinking the same thing.
What are you fucking talking about?
You met Michael Jordan.
dan friesen
Did you yell at him at some Bulls game at San Antonio or something?
He came and played the Spurs and you yelled at him?
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe when he was younger, he was taken to one of the Houston Rockets Bulls playoff games.
That's possible.
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
Sure.
In the same way, I met Kobe Bryant.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I got his autograph when I was 16 or whatever.
17.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You've met Kobe Bryant and Robert Redford, and you know everybody.
Yeah.
dan friesen
More interested in Owen Schroyer for sure.
Yeah, I don't believe any of that shit.
So Alex gets to his top story.
And of course, it's that the Chinese government is taking over the world.
Sure.
As is the story every day.
Right.
And I'm only keeping this clip in because Alex says something weird in the middle of it that I want to unpack a little bit because I just don't understand what he's saying.
alex jones
I had one of the reporters walk up and say, hey, what do you want to call the article we put out every day with a headline about the live feed of the show and what the main topic is, what the top story is.
And it really is the Chi-Com takeover of the planet.
And I'm not for abortion, but I am for metaphysical abortion of horrible monstrosities like baby Grendel rolling out from between his serpent mother's legs.
So I would like to kill Grendel in utero.
dan friesen
So what's metaphysical abortion?
jordan holmes
I want to let that sit.
That's a piece of artwork.
I want to admire that.
I want that quote to be on a poster.
I want to look at it whenever I'm disappointed in myself.
dan friesen
He does continue on with like a Beowulf riff, too.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He keeps going with it.
unidentified
Like, we need Beowulf to come and choke out Grendel's mom.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is the Globalist.
The Globalist are Grendel's mom.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
China is Grendel or something.
Oh, boy.
I don't know what metaphysical abortion is, though.
I just don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, are we talking because some metaphysical abortion can still be done with a pill.
It can even be prescribed across state lines.
But some metaphysical abortions require a more involved process.
dan friesen
I'm thinking that what he's saying is that he is in favor of nipping things in the bud, like the Chinese world takeover.
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
And then he's calling that abortion metaphysical abortion.
I don't know.
It's strange phrasing.
I think if you were like stridently anti-abortion like Alex is, maybe not good to call some of your aspirations metaphysical abortion.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, it seems weird.
He even did say he wanted to kill Grendel's baby in the Euro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So where does he feel on aborting?
Where does he fall on aborting Hitler?
I think that's the question.
dan friesen
When does a monster become a monster?
When did Grendel become Grendel?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Probably when conception.
Probably when she was red when he was writing her.
dan friesen
So Alex, in service of not getting to any news, he goes to calls very early in the show.
Right.
Almost like maybe within the first half hour he goes to call.
jordan holmes
Disciplined broadcast.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And so here is him launching into that.
alex jones
And it's probably been a couple years since I've gone to calls by this segment, but I'm doing it right now.
Jeff in Canada.
Jeff in Canada is our first caller.
Thank you, sir, for joining us.
Go ahead.
dan friesen
So Alex is lying.
This is not the first time in a few years that he's gone to calls really early.
jordan holmes
I thought it wasn't Jeff in Canada.
dan friesen
No, Jeff in Canada does show up.
Jeff is an all-star.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
But Alex, you might remember that recently he promised he was going to have an in-studio surgery cutting a microchip out of a homeless person to prove all of this stuff.
And he said, big news, it's coming on Tuesday.
We're doing this on Tuesday.
Just filling out the HIPAA forms.
That day, that Tuesday, went to calls real early into the whole show.
So I think that there's a thing.
jordan holmes
You think there's a pattern here?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
I think when he has been going to calls a lot more lately.
That is definitely true.
There's a trend towards more calls.
But I think whenever the show is almost all calls, it's just because I don't even want to fuck around.
I don't want to do it.
I said I was going to cut a chip out of somebody.
Let's pretend I didn't.
Just talk to the people.
So Jeff calls in.
jordan holmes
It's like Judo.
It's a little bit like Judo.
He's like, hey, they think that I'm going to get this, but you know what else they'll really love?
Being able to talk to me.
dan friesen
Right.
Right.
They'll see themselves in these callers and that'll put the veil over themselves.
jordan holmes
Jangle those keys.
jeremy in california
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Jeff from Canada gets on, and he has an interesting idea for how, I don't know, how you're going to win the battle.
I don't even know how to fucking join Canada.
This is dumb.
This is just real dumb.
jeff in vancouver
Here's what I was thinking.
What would it look like if Trump would look out into one of his rallies and he saw hundreds or thousands of people with duct tape on their mouth with I was censored for looking at Infowars.
jeff in canada
I was censored for talking about vaccines.
I was censored for whatever.
jeff in vancouver
And what I'm seeing, and I'll submit this to you, I'm not just an idea.
jeff in canada
What about the armored vehicle showing up at a Trump rally early when the big lines are out and go out and hand out duct tape and talk to people about the essential fact that free speech is going and do a silent protest at a Trump rally with people putting duct tape over their mouths?
alex jones
Jeff, how would you like to fly to Austin?
Get hired as a contractor for the next 300 days to run that operation because we actually talked about that a few weeks ago.
dan friesen
Giving this duct tape guy a job.
alex jones
Love it.
dan friesen
A couple problems with this.
Trump would never be able to read the words that are written on duct tape on someone's mouth.
jordan holmes
I was thinking that maybe he meant maybe he didn't specifically say written on their mouths, did he?
Maybe he meant they weren't.
dan friesen
I think that's the implication.
jordan holmes
It really did sound like the implication.
dan friesen
Yeah, the lettering would be way too small.
jordan holmes
Way too small, though.
unidentified
Second, I don't know if Trump would care.
jordan holmes
I don't think he would give a fuck.
dan friesen
Although it would be really fucked up as a visual.
unidentified
It's just a sea of people at duct tape on their mouth.
jordan holmes
Because I think in this scenario, none of these people will be able to stop themselves from also clapping.
dan friesen
And yelling.
jordan holmes
So his yelling won't matter.
dan friesen
Yelling with their mouths duct taped.
unidentified
Woo!
jordan holmes
Excuse me, I can't hear you.
You guys, you guys.
You guys need to take the duct tape off your mouth.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex rambles for about 10 minutes about why this is the greatest idea and why he's going to steal it.
This guy's not getting a job.
But Alex is going to steal the idea.
But like I said, there's a couple problems.
The first is that Trump couldn't see the letters.
No.
The second is duct tape.
How the fuck are we going to monetize that?
alex jones
We're going to put a number out today.
Don't put a hotline on me, like a thousand calls have to go through all the other calls, but send us an email at showtips at infowars.com.
Say, I pledge to hand out 100 stickers.
I pledge to hand out 1,000 stickers.
And we'll just pay whatever it takes.
You know what?
I just believe you.
Whoever goes to showtips at infowars.com and asks for stickers, give us your address.
We'll call through those.
We'll send you those.
I'm not going to wait.
Hell, I'll man the damn thing myself.
I'll box it up.
I'll do it.
I'm not going to let destiny go past us and we need to go take over those Trump events and demand that conservative ink be removed and that the neocon never trumpers be removed and that the people that got Trump elected be defended by their president and that the Bill of Rights be defended.
That is a serious solution.
And then when Trump pauses, InfoWars.com.
jordan holmes
Hey there.
alex jones
She'll save InfoWars.com because that's a rallying crying assemble the media hates.
They've tried to silence it.
He'll inject that in and we'll cause a whole nother debate about all of that.
dan friesen
Couple problems.
How are you going to yell infowars.com if you got duct tape on your mouth?
jordan holmes
Well, in this scenario, now I believe they have stickers on their mouth.
dan friesen
It's a bumper sticker on your mouth, yes, because Alex has changed that because that's monetizable.
Yeah.
Get a little bit of juice out of that.
alex jones
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is really stupid.
But it is a good way to possibly create an absurd spectacle.
jordan holmes
I think it'd be funny.
dan friesen
Once.
Yeah.
It's probably funny in a movie.
In the real world, I think it would be a really scary direction.
Just a bunch of people with InfoWars stickers on their mouths taking them off to yell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'd be good for you.
unidentified
That does sound like the beginning of a hostile film.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Terrifying.
It would be funny the first time.
I think it would be hilarious.
The second and third time, not funny.
The fourth time, very scary.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The fifth time, hilarious again.
It's the Simpsons rake effect.
It's Silent Bob.
dan friesen
In reality, what you might end up seeing is like two people with bumper stickers on their mouths at a Trump rally, and no one will understand what's going on except us.
And then they'll be drowned out by everybody with their Q t-shirts, and Alex will get furious.
That's what's going on.
That'll happen.
jordan holmes
I think the weird thing about where he's at now is I personally would not want to do those public call to actions just because now I don't think his audience is anywhere near the level that it was before.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
So you don't want to find out exactly how small your audience is.
dan friesen
And those calls to action in the past have often been things that have been potentially financially advantageous to the listeners.
So someone who's not even a fan might want to go and yell, Bill Clinton's a rapist to try and get $1,000 from Alex.
jordan holmes
I could use a grand.
dan friesen
Yeah, you could see how anybody might be inclined to do that, even if they're not on board with Infowars.
And yeah, you wouldn't want a public demonstration of how weak your shit is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, but bumper stickers on the mouths.
Let's do it.
So this Jeff in Canada, he compliments Alex after Alex rambles about how he's going to take his idea.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course.
dan friesen
And then Alex gets mad at him for getting complimented, which is something I can kind of relate to.
I sometimes push back when someone compliments me.
But Alex goes a little bit too far with it.
jeff in vancouver
Hey, thanks, Alex.
You know, I think there's a truth that you guys are the tip of the spear.
You guys are the best.
I mean, that's just the way it is.
dan friesen
You're in the middle of the street.
alex jones
Sure.
Hold on a second.
You just gave the order to the Central Texas Command Center.
You are this information hub.
You had the idea.
Most of the time, it's you.
I was driving around in 2015 and saw a homemade sign in a yard that said Hillary for prison, 2016.
And I went with that idea and it was a third of the shirts at the RNC.
So that was again, you understand that the orders come from you.
That's why Trump always wanting to hear what his supporters and always getting notes and demanding the Secret Service get all the stuff they give him.
And he puts it in a box on the plane and reads it.
He knows where the power comes from.
The ethos is you.
You, the soil.
It comes from you.
It comes from us.
Don't you get it?
jordan holmes
I steal ideas.
I was going to say, didn't he, did he just reveal that he has no ideas of his own and he just trolls around stealing individuals' ideas and not giving them any credit for it?
dan friesen
I am the tip of the spear, but only because I steal from you.
jordan holmes
You, you are great.
Do you not realize all I do now is talk about memes and try to jump on their back?
dan friesen
And then I try and get whatever traction I can out of fly-by-night people who make a fucking video of their dog Zeke Heiling or Count Dankula or the guy who hits things with hammers or the 30-year-old who got kicked out of his parents' basement.
I just try and attach myself to whatever dumb bullshit is flying around in the right-wing media sphere.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would say exactly.
dan friesen
And then I steal things and make money off it.
Don't you get it, Jeff?
From Canada.
unidentified
Jeff, that's not a successful business model, Jeff.
jordan holmes
Don't join InfoWars.
dan friesen
You should stay in Canada.
So Alex freaks out some more about this.
And I would say that this is pretty unhinged.
And I do not know why Alex is responding like this to Jeff just trying to be nice.
jordan holmes
Low self-esteem.
dan friesen
It's very intense, his backlash.
alex jones
So again, you're giving the orders here.
Jeff, go ahead.
jeff in vancouver
Well, praise God for us.
alex jones
Say it, Jeff.
Say, I am the tip of the spear.
Jeff in Canada is the tip of the spear, and you're going to see your idea manifest on the street.
And how big it is is up to the rest of these people that are the tip of the spear.
I don't sit here and tell you all day that it's you to kiss your ass and make you feel important.
You are everything.
dan friesen
To pause here really quick.
One thing I think that's really interesting that I think he's doing there is being like, we're going to do this, and you're going to let Jeff down if you don't go along with this big idea.
It's not so much me.
It's not Trump.
It's not the West.
You're letting Jeff down.
jordan holmes
You're going to let Jeff from Canada down?
dan friesen
There's a weird sort of shifting of guilt around.
jordan holmes
That works for me now.
dan friesen
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
If he can afford the plane ticket, yeah, Alex can't.
alex jones
Getting on my knees right there in front of Jeff.
dan friesen
Give me the microphone.
jordan holmes
I'm serious.
alex jones
I love my kids and I love God and I hate the devil and I'll do anything to stop these people.
So I'm on my knees to the listeners.
I'm on my knees to the viewers.
I am on my knees asking you to take action.
I am on my knees to you.
You have the answers.
You have the will.
You have the strength.
You have everything.
I don't want to sit here and watch us overrun by these zombies and their controllers.
So you heard Jeff say, oh, you are the tip of the spear.
Oh, Jeff.
You're the tip of the spear.
It's like in Viva Vendetta.
Got to find that scene when he's talking to the inspector.
V meets with the inspector.
I'm sure that's the name of it.
He says to him.
jordan holmes
A little out of breath.
alex jones
Well, if you knew all this for 20 years, why didn't you do something?
And he says, I was waiting for you, Inspector.
I was waiting for you, Jeff.
Sorry, Jeff, go ahead.
I love you to death, Jeff.
What else should we do, Jeff?
Jeff, tell me what to do, Jeff.
dan friesen
God damn.
unidentified
When you saw only one set of footprints in the sand, it was you, Jeff!
dan friesen
Jeff was carrying me!
Jeff was carrying me because he took Supermail and he was very strong.
I remember back when I was in drama class when I was in like maybe junior high or so, and we had to do a skit, and I went a little overboard with some.
jordan holmes
You committed a little, you Jared Letoed it.
dan friesen
I do more Jim Carried it a little bit.
Okay.
You know, it was not, it was, it was, you know, and it went over well, got a nice reaction from the audience and all of that.
But afterwards, when we were getting notes from the teacher, the teacher said, there's a difference between acting and overacting.
And that's a lesson that I would like to bring from my youth to the present day to discuss what Alex just did.
jordan holmes
It reminded me nothing so much of Joe Pesci asking, like, what do you think was funny?
What do you think was it?
Do you think something funny happened?
Do I make you laugh?
Do I amuse you?
Jeff from fucking Canada?
Do I think something's funny?
dan friesen
There's a method to that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's crazy.
dan friesen
That's a match to what Pesci is doing.
For Alex, this is just Dorothy.
Exactly.
It's so woefully transparent.
You're like, I'm getting up from my desk and getting all my knees to the listeners.
It's like, God, Jeff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Calm down.
jordan holmes
That one's lame.
dan friesen
Yeah, very much so.
Very much so.
So he goes to break after yelling to Jeff that he, you know, he need.
What do we do, Jeff?
What do we do?
jordan holmes
Jeff was not expecting that.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
At the very least.
dan friesen
I just wanted to tell people with duct tape on their mouths.
I got way more than I asked for.
jordan holmes
I am Jeff from Canada.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to break and he comes back.
This is a longer clip.
This might be like a four-minute clip.
unidentified
Oh, sure.
dan friesen
So we might have to pause at some points.
But what happens is Alex, his favorite song plays as he comes in from break.
And it's a thank God for the renegade song.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Alex sings along and talks over it.
So there's a little bit of a return to the Alex Jones karaoke bar.
But what I think is particularly important about this is like, this is all Alex can do anymore really well.
And it's the only thing that I think he even enjoys, which is talking dramatically about bullshit over swelling inspirational music.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm a fan myself, actually.
dan friesen
We'll see if that's a good thing.
You can stick with it for a couple minutes.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because I don't think you can.
alex jones
Christopher.
Someone may come.
Play that song from Chris Bird coming up next section.
unidentified
This is.
alex jones
What's this fellow's name?
I can't remember Tom Allblurs.
I've had him on the show.
Just crazy.
So many great patriots.
Steve Foss.
jordan holmes
Does he know he's live?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He has every reason to know who this dude is.
He's been on the show multiple times, and Alex has been playing this song for over a decade on his show.
jordan holmes
Really likes him.
Yes.
dan friesen
Can't come up with Steve Voss.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Tough to fight.
alex jones
Been on the air a long time.
We're going to round back to your phone calls, but let's just listen to part of this.
Thank God for the renegades.
For you.
dan friesen
And the Lancing League.
alex jones
Far ahead of their time.
Without the renegades.
Lord knows where we'd be.
He is mine.
Another ragtag man declaring independence.
unidentified
They railed against the crown.
Another ragtag man.
Declaring independence.
alex jones
They laid their bodies down on a bloody war.
dan friesen
There is news.
There is news to get to.
I should point out.
jordan holmes
I assume you're waiting.
This is a very disciplined broadcast.
This is very disciplined.
dan friesen
The embassy is under siege in Iraq.
jordan holmes
Very disciplined, Dan.
unidentified
All in bloody war.
alex jones
Fill the strength of all their blood.
It's physically and spiritually in you now.
A commitment.
A sacrifice.
unidentified
Focus.
alex jones
A spirit.
And the enemy fears that spirit above all.
Because that spirit thing is life.
Part of life.
If you're willing to die for it.
Because from the sacrifice comes the strongest soil.
Try to make us forget that birthright.
They try to make us forget what's in that soil.
We must take from the soil what God has given us through our ancestors.
dan friesen
Just real quick, Alex, and not for nothing, Alex is kind of rambling about blood and soil.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I noticed that.
I wasn't stoked about that, but I'm trying to focus on the song, Dan.
alex jones
We must take it in our hands and feel the light in our soul.
When it comes to heroes, renegades are mine.
And without the renegades, where will we be today?
Ask yourself that question.
And then ask yourself, who are the renegades in the world today?
You are those renegades.
jordan holmes
Jeff from Canada.
He's a renegade.
alex jones
Who are the renegades?
dan friesen
Who are the renegades?
Alex knew that that was the next lyric, and so he got his sort of rambling to be like, who are the renegades?
Where are they nowadays?
You have to ask yourself that question.
Pro shit.
jordan holmes
He's setting it up.
He's setting it up.
dan friesen
Such a dork.
alex jones
In the world today.
unidentified
Thank God for the renegades.
alex jones
And the lives they lead.
The name of Forrest could envision the future.
They envisioned it.
They built it.
We won't even live to see the things our sacrifices bring.
But know this.
The enemy has not even begun to force us to tap the resources of our ancestors that God gave us and the strength that they paid forward.
A spiritual dimensional well, like a giant underground aquifer of pure energy waiting for us to access it.
And the enemies of God do not have that birthright.
They cannot access their ancestors.
They can access nothing but destruction.
And they believe their God will finally make them pure when all they do is produce death and sickness and ugliness.
They are cursed from the foundations of the earth to serving their master.
They are of their father, the devil.
jordan holmes
So thank God for the renegade.
Oh, sorry.
alex jones
Can save them because they have chosen to follow their father.
dan friesen
The devil.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
All right.
No more preaching.
jordan holmes
The original renegade.
alex jones
I'm going to take 30 minutes of calls non-stop.
And I'm going to cover the Iran.
And then I'm going to cover the TACOM takeover.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
It's all important, but you can feel the energy going into 2020.
You can feel God's wrath being poured out onto the planet.
And the fear that anyone fears should not be the devil.
The feeder should not be aligning yourself with God.
We'll be back on the other side stay with us.
dan friesen
That was an entire segment of the show.
That is an entire commercial to commercial singing along, yelling nonsense over the renegades, then getting into preaching about how his enemies are damned, then yelling at himself about how he's got to stop preaching and get to calls and then get to the news.
It's this is this show is just out of control.
I'll tell you, this could not be more disciplined.
jordan holmes
I could have, I could, the whole thing was fell apart for me because what should have happened is the drum fill from I Can Feel It Coming in the Air Tonight should have kicked in.
And then we could have fucking nailed this whole thing.
It would have been amazing.
This would have been the perfect segment if they had ended with that drum fill.
dan friesen
Or just something quirky like Easy Lover by Phil Collins.
Something that is like a jaunty, like the crash test up.
What a fool believes.
jordan holmes
See now we're doing it.
dan friesen
Talking about the battle over the doobie brothers.
God, that'd be great.
jordan holmes
Oh, that would be fantastic.
dan friesen
So Alex, he's chastised himself.
No more of this preaching bullshit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I got it knuckled down.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Calls.
So we just heard him go out to commercial.
Here's how he comes back from commercial.
alex jones
Light of fire.
We have lit the fire.
And people came from all over the world to find what lit that fire.
Some have come to steal the fire.
jordan holmes
Really?
We're doing this again?
alex jones
We come to release the fire.
The Clhevian fire.
The fire given to us by our creator.
The fire we must use against the enemy or be destroyed and our children enslaved.
Never.
They planted their satanic flag on our children and told us hopefully they're going to have their way with them.
They have only summoned their destruction and they know it.
and the ability.
And all these great men that serve evil will be torn down and will beg a redemption in the end, but it will fall on deaf ears.
Bring out your phone calls.
I'm going to cut back down on the ranting, I said, but I haven't done that quite yet here on this final transmission of 2019.
Let's go right now to a liberal in New York that disagrees.
Liberal.
You're on the air.
Welcome.
jordan holmes
Jeff from Canada.
dan friesen
This is partially the producer's fault.
You know, they could turn down the music at any point.
jordan holmes
They're egging him on.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Everybody there is like, it's New Year's Eve.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
Let's sing some songs.
dan friesen
I have a stronger suspicion that Alex is in a bad mood and he just needs pump-up jams.
Yeah.
He's like, I can't even get into this.
Just fucking play some like really inspiring music and I'll fake it.
I'll just fucking fake it.
jordan holmes
Did he just invent a new form of preaching where the instead of bothering with reading the Bible and learning and providing wisdom, you just play fucking classic rock and talk to it as if it's talking back to you?
dan friesen
Hey, man, it works.
jordan holmes
I think that'd be great.
dan friesen
Yep.
So Liberal calls in.
Liberal.
And so what Liberal's got to say is largely.
jordan holmes
How come you don't play any hip-hop?
dan friesen
No, that is not.
That's not the question that's asked.
Everyone enjoys the Patriot rock.
Liberal asks, along the lines of how are we pretending that Trump is doing a good job and is anything other than what we've been accustomed to when he re-signed the Patriot Act.
Yeah.
He re-signed the NDAA.
Right.
When are you going to recognize these things and call it out for what it is?
Right.
And Alex is not doing a good job with this call.
And again, I would like to point out this is a very disciplined broadcast.
unidentified
And this is what I'm speaking about with regards to Trump.
Why is it that he's renewing the Patriot Act?
If we are supposed to be going back to being great again, where we revere the Constitution and our freedoms of speech and things of that nature, why is it that he's reenacting these bills?
Can you explain that to me?
alex jones
I totally agree.
I totally agree with you.
Let me finish this piece of chicken, and I'm letting you talk, which I've learned to make myself be quiet.
I'll actually eat all you talk.
She's all in a row.
I'll answer that.
dan friesen
Well, looks like our theory is confirmed.
unidentified
Check that box off of the knowledge site theory.
alex jones
There we go.
jordan holmes
There we go.
unidentified
Eating what other people are talking pretty regularly on air.
jordan holmes
Did he talk about cannibalism earlier?
Because I feel like that would also check it out.
dan friesen
Oh, vaguely.
I mean, he always talks about cannibalism in some form or another.
Yeah, hey, man, I want to answer your question about why Trump is good, but he renewed the Patriot Act, but I got this chicken in my mouth.
So I got to take care of this breast that I got in my mouth.
And then I got a great answer for you.
He does not have a great answer for it.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not surprising.
dan friesen
No.
This collar is pretty good, but it's a bit long, and it would be really tough to dissect the pieces where...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's ultimately unfulfilling.
It's ungratifying.
No.
jordan holmes
The answer to those questions is he can't.
Right.
And so he won't.
And you're not going to get the answer you want, which is him saying he can't.
dan friesen
And Alex is never going to address anything.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
He's never going to give a solid answer.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So liberal is talking, Alex asks what Trump should do.
And the answer is basically take the money that's being spent on these overseas wars, end them, reallocate them for infrastructure projects, job creation, some pretty redistributional kinds of what a stupid liberal to say those things.
Well, that is a pretty, you know, that's a position that you'd hear on the left.
You know, I think a lot of people on the right might be like, let's just stop spending the money.
Yeah, yeah.
Whereas on the left, a lot of people are more towards putting that money towards things that will create greater outcomes for people who are in bad financial situations and reinvestment in the country itself, public spaces.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That sort of shit.
So it's really interesting to hear Alex's response to liberal saying that that is what Trump should do, because Alex totally agrees with him.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
dan friesen
Counter to every libertarian nonsense idea that Alex is.
jordan holmes
Of course it is, but it's the only thing that makes any fucking sense.
dan friesen
Then things get ugly and the call ends exactly how most of these calls end.
alex jones
You've done your research.
What does Trump need to do in 30 seconds?
What do we need to do?
unidentified
Trump needs to kick, as you said, create this fire side shadow or whatever.
Explain to the country that these illegal wars that we're in, we are pulling these troops out now.
You have given him cover with respect to the actions of his subordinates, not listening to him.
If that is the case, Alex, you fire all of them.
You pull the troops out.
You reassign or reallocate the monies that you've assigned to go overseas to rebuild infrastructure in the United States, create job programs.
This is what people need to do.
alex jones
I totally agree.
I totally agree with you.
And look, he said take Brennan's security clearance.
They didn't do it.
He said leave Afghanistan.
They didn't do it.
I mean, the truth is, he surrounded it.
And I'm not saying that it's not his fault, but how does he start it?
What does he do when he's surrounded?
unidentified
So, Alex, here's what.
When Obama was in power and everything illegal that was done under him was assigned to him, it's the same with Trump.
It's the same respect.
Everything done illegally under him will be assigned to him.
He has to take the reins.
No, Alex.
Not in 2020 after the election.
alex jones
No, no, I agree with you.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
Gut level.
You think Trump's for real?
unidentified
Gut level.
No, Alex.
I think that he's just a part of the tyranny still going on.
If I'm seeing from administrative, great points.
alex jones
Great points.
If I get his number and info, I'd like to have him be part of the new show we're going to be doing.
unidentified
Of course.
alex jones
Call straight ahead.
I promise we'll get to all the news.
I said I would, but I'm going to your calls.
I'm going your calls.
They're powerful, powerful listeners.
dan friesen
Powerful calls.
Gonna give this guy a job.
jordan holmes
I am very hungry.
That's all I hear.
All I hear is I need you guys to continue talking so I can finish my shut that music up.
dan friesen
I need to chew.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
So that call didn't go well, I don't think, because I think Liberal was making some decent points.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex didn't have anywhere really to go with it because they are points that are real problems for Alex.
He spent years yelling about the Patriot Act and the NDAA.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And the very idea that Trump wouldn't get rid of them is really counter to Alex's narratives about what Trump believes, what he would do, what he will do.
And so best not to talk about that.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
You don't want to worry about whether or not the guy you said was going to do all this stuff is actually doing it because he's not.
And you can't say that he is.
dan friesen
Certainly not.
So, Alex comes back from break, and you know what he's going to do.
alex jones
Oh, yes, she can.
jordan holmes
Got to be honest.
alex jones
I'm liking it.
jordan holmes
I'm liking it.
This is a good New Year's Eve show.
unidentified
You can hear it.
alex jones
Two competing transmissions.
Two different messages now scientifically proven to be transmitting.
It's not just transmissions that guide the ducks and the butterflies and the hummingbirds from Canada down to South America.
It's not just magnetic because the spectrum is so much bigger.
But there's free will in the universe.
And you either belong to Satan or you belong to God.
dan friesen
They all do.
alex jones
Satan will trick you and lie to you.
God will just be straight up front.
I'll shoot you straight.
That's a pro boot.
But I get it.
A lot of people are scared.
I'm scared.
Pretty awesome.
When you know God can see everything.
Looks right through your cells, right down to the tiny atoms.
It's not like that with the devil, is it?
Because the devil is not omnipresent.
Devil's old.
Given free will to rebelled.
Not the same species.
Not the same as us.
Not as powerful as us.
But an 80-year-old man might not be able to get out of bed, but he's stronger than an embryo who doesn't even know who it is yet.
And that's all this is.
dan friesen
So it is.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Powerful words.
Powerful words.
I really think that this is my favorite show of the year so far, just so you know.
dan friesen
I think that you belong to the city must have just gone into public domain or being added to his like whatever lease agreement he has with songs to a record label or whatever.
jordan holmes
His ass cap or whatever.
dan friesen
He's been playing it a bunch lately.
jordan holmes
Are you listening to that sex?
Are you listening to that sex, Dan?
dan friesen
That might have taken over like Quarter Flash.
Yeah.
Like the new one spot of sex rock right now.
You know, you could, I mean, Harden My Heart is pretty great.
jordan holmes
There's no stopping a good sex.
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I think that it's good news that the devil is old, but not omnipresent.
jordan holmes
That is.
dan friesen
Which means you can run away from him.
jordan holmes
I prefer it said in the other, he's not omnipresent.
He's old.
dan friesen
I don't know.
If the devil isn't omnipresent, which I guess I never really thought about it.
jordan holmes
What do you mean?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I never thought about it.
jordan holmes
Fair.
You know what?
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
dan friesen
If that's the case, then there have to be places where you could go to get away from the temptations or whatever.
It would have to be a thing where, right?
jordan holmes
Here is what I am going to say: is what I think he thinks.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
In terms of omnipresence, I believe he thinks God is everywhere simultaneously all around us and within us.
But isn't that whereas the devil can go anywhere, but he is not always everywhere.
dan friesen
So if the devil is tempting me, he can't be here with you.
jordan holmes
No, he can't be.
I'm out over here.
dan friesen
That's impossible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's how it works.
dan friesen
The devil would be that's very inefficient.
jordan holmes
Oh, are you telling me that Santa Claus has a better system?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
I mean, based on what you're saying, I think.
jordan holmes
I think that's what he believes.
dan friesen
I'm not really sure I've ever considered.
I guess I always thought of the devil as kind of more of a metaphor.
unidentified
I've never considered you've never considered the logistics.
dan friesen
Physical properties or attributes.
jordan holmes
Are we giving him mutant powers?
Can he multiply?
Can there be a million devils?
And he can send all of them to each individual place.
Does he have to have to have subordinates?
I don't know.
You know, what's the infrastructure like?
What's an opening salary for the devil?
dan friesen
I will say that I agree with Alex, at least in my conception of the devil, that he is old.
So that is where we can find common ground.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Can you agree on how old?
dan friesen
Pretty old.
Fair.
So in this next clip, I mean, it's kind of old at this point, but Alex is just as old as the devil?
Not that old.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He's constantly just playing these pump-up jams.
jordan holmes
I'm not getting old.
It is not getting old for me.
I know you enjoy research and digging into this.
dan friesen
There's almost nothing to look into for this episode.
jordan holmes
I can do it.
I do it.
dan friesen
So here he pumps himself up some more.
And then he's like, we're getting to the end of the second hour of his show at this point.
And I think he has to rationalize why he hasn't gotten into the news yet.
Oh, he does that in this clip.
alex jones
Because we'll fight you.
Getting to the Iran news and the huge China news that are so critical and I'm totally prepared for that are massive.
Totally critical.
Until I've taken at least the 15 calls that are on the board right now.
That means Jarek and Mike and Danny and Dave and Luke and Jason and Patriot and Gary and Eric.
dan friesen
I could totally do it.
I 100% could do it.
I'm totally ready.
I've prepared everything, but I can't do it until I take 15 calls.
We are at the end of hour two, and he's taken three.
unidentified
So I do not believe you will get to that 15.
jordan holmes
Cannot stress enough that the only reason I am singing along and talking to all of these songs for what amounts to a half hour at least at this point is because I'm actually too prepared to talk about Iran and Iraq.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Too prepared, guys.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go to some calls.
But I mean, first, let's hear some tasty riffs.
dan friesen
Alex does say that sometimes.
Like, I am too prepared.
I have too much information.
jordan holmes
He is.
dan friesen
There's nobody forcing him to take these calls.
We know for years he's just said he's going to go to calls and then never does.
No consequences for that.
But now, for some reason, there's an arbitrary rule that he must take these 15 calls before he gets to the news.
jordan holmes
Look, there's pressure from the higher ups.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
It's suspicious.
I have a question.
And this is a hypothetical.
I know you can't actually answer this honestly, but I like to imagine that this is his production staff knowing that he's got a little button that they can press where it's like, oh, if we just play this song for four minutes, that's four minutes of him talking to the song.
We don't need to, if there's no previous discussion, he doesn't bat an eye.
dan friesen
They go smoke a cigarette.
They don't have to look stuff up on Google put on the screen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, that's a smoke break for them, right?
dan friesen
It's an interesting theory.
It's possible, but obviously we can't prove it.
I think it's more Alex is yelling at them during the breaks and saying, you play these goddamn jams.
alex jones
I could go either way.
dan friesen
I am running on fumes.
I need some rock.
jordan holmes
I don't need no instructions.
dan friesen
So Alex starts taking more calls, and he's in the middle of talking to some guy, and he just gets off on a riff about how, you know, with the drag queen story times and stuff, they're going to, they're Satan demons and they're going to come take your kids.
And so we start in media res of one of those rants.
alex jones
Just absolutely showing you what they're going to do.
We've captured your children.
They're ours.
And we're going to destroy them.
unidentified
And there's nothing you can do.
One more thing, Alex.
Obviously, we're in a reprieve.
alex jones
But my instincts, that hasn't worked on me.
Here's the thing.
If you become aware of what they're doing and explain to your brain what they're doing and you decide to resist it, see, then you don't adapt and submit.
Then you adapt and overcome.
We're not going to submit.
We're going to overcome.
You understand?
They think they're maniacs.
They're going to find out what the real thing is.
All these Satanists try to have mimics and counterfeits of things.
You don't think God's people have a rage a thousand times more powerful than them?
We can take out a hundred of their best people, one man focused.
And that's where this is all going.
These people are pathetic losers.
Sorry, go ahead.
unidentified
So we're obviously we got a short time of reprieve right here with President Trump to get right with God and Jehovah and whatever your name for God is.
This is our short time, our reprieve.
jordan holmes
What if my name for God is Allah?
unidentified
What happens when President Trump is gone and out of office?
What goes on from there?
Whoa.
alex jones
Incredibly good question.
God bless you, Eric.
Another incredible caller.
The callers are just the best ever.
dan friesen
So then he says that he's going to answer when he comes back from break because I think this is strategic on a certain level.
I don't think he wants a direct question except for right up against the break.
Absolutely.
Just in case it's he's been burned already on this episode talking to liberal.
jordan holmes
He had to say yes to liberal.
dan friesen
I mean, it was all good and well with the Canadian guy with the duct tape, but you know, I don't, he doesn't want to do that.
No.
So I think there's a strategy to the ranting in order to delay this question until you can look at the clock and see like, okay, there's 40 seconds left till break.
Let him get the question out.
I can come back.
You know, hey, what do we do after Trump?
alex jones
Great.
jordan holmes
We'll figure it out.
Yeah, that's that.
dan friesen
He doesn't really answer it in a meaningful way.
jordan holmes
His heart's not into it.
No.
That's a bad job on a final.
Yeah, that's a bad job on a movie set.
The director would be like, okay, do more or less because you suck at this Coke character right now.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's uninspired.
It's transparent and lame.
jeremy in california
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he goes to break, he comes back, and his answer is largely this same sort of mealy-mouthed thing that he's been doing for a while, which is the like, we put Trump in.
We need to focus on what our movement is, not Trump as a person.
It's like, that's all you've been doing for years is focusing on Trump as a person.
Yeah.
Whatever.
He's trying to pretend that didn't happen.
jordan holmes
No, it didn't.
dan friesen
Everybody has the right to live their lives.
Whatever.
I'm not going to dance too hard on that one.
It seems like a waste of time.
jordan holmes
My high school English teacher called it life lie, and he said it was the most dangerous thing to interfere with to the point where he said he told his dad off once when he was like 16, and his dad just punched him and kicked him out of the house.
That's his idea of interrupting a sleepwalker.
Yeah, exactly.
With a saxophone.
dan friesen
So Alex gets another call from a guy.
And we've talked about this a little bit in the past.
Like you suggested sometimes when people call in and do egregious sales pitches that they're fake calls.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't think that that's necessarily what a fake call on Alex's show would look like.
Sure.
Because I think the audience is trained up well enough to know that this is.
jordan holmes
You plug the products, you get to talk.
dan friesen
This is a good way.
We scratch each other's backs, that sort of thing.
It's sort of a formality with callers on his show.
So that never really sets off red flags for me.
This call, I don't, I'm not saying that I think that this is fake.
So it very well could be real.
It could be someone coming up with a fun way to talk to Alex.
Sure.
But I am saying that if there is a fake kind of call on Alex's show, like a plant, it would be like this.
unidentified
So first, the reason why I wanted to call is to let the callers know that InfoWars is totally on in their intel.
I just recently got out of the military, was part of the special operations community.
And we were getting ready to invade North Korea, and you were right on with your timelines.
I was listening to you the entire time, and I was just blown away that, like, I don't know where you were getting your intel from, but when I was listening to you, it was like I was hearing, and I was hearing other information, privileged information that I thought was absolutely top secret, but somehow you got it out.
Anyway, and so it wouldn't surprise me if all these different international entities are listening to you constantly for what's going on in the world.
dan friesen
That is worth far more than any money to Alex.
Because you have the appearance of somebody who has high-level clearances saying that all of Alex's information is exactly the sort of thing you hear.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can definitely see that.
dan friesen
But I could also see that not being a setup and it being a caller who has listened to too much Alex and misinterpreted things they experienced in the service.
Or it could be someone just making shit up.
jordan holmes
I don't buy it.
dan friesen
There's a number.
Of course not.
But there's a number of possibilities.
But if I were to bet on something being what Alex would want to create, that would be it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because it creates the credibility and the high-level, like heads of state listen to my show image that Alex is desperate to cultivate, but it's complete bullshit.
jordan holmes
And now is a good time for it.
dan friesen
Why would Putin be listening to him karaoke?
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't Putin be listening to him?
dan friesen
That's a good point.
No word leader has time for this.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have any guests that are like former special ops or he can credibly.
Okay, let me start that over.
At this point in time, he can't get any guests who could credibly say that they're special ops, right?
dan friesen
Not active.
I think Matt Bracken, I don't know what he was in, but I believe he was enlisted.
He was in the service.
jordan holmes
He was enlisted, but he wasn't in.
dan friesen
I don't know what rank he was or what branch of anything, but if he wasn't in the service, he's everything about his character implies this is a military yeah, okay.
jordan holmes
So I don't which makes me suspect he's not.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I'm going over the roster in my head, and I don't think so.
No, I don't believe so.
jordan holmes
And you can only be told that you are listened to by the leaders of the world by Steve Pieczenik so many times before you start thinking, Steve, you're lying to me, you dumb asshole.
dan friesen
Well, because it comes packaged with so many other bullshit pieces of information.
jordan holmes
So you get a caller.
There's no baggage.
He's spec ops.
Holy shit.
We were going to invade North Korea.
A thing that many special ops people would absolutely say upon leaving the military.
You know how they do.
dan friesen
And yeah, to be clear, I'm not saying that that was a fake call or anything, but that genre is what Alex would create, I believe, based on his personality and based on the needs of the show.
Yeah.
Because what that does, that establishes this high-level credibility with the people who are listening, who are already on the hook, or maybe people who are almost on the hook.
It gets them deeper into like, oh, this guy is saying that Alex's shit is credible.
I don't know.
I'm not in special ops, but this guy is.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It serves his purposes really, really well.
So, anyway, that's a pretty good call for Alex.
Put that one in the wind call.
jordan holmes
That one's good.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Alex still has not gotten to the news.
alex jones
I promise to really try to give you my view on the situation where the embassy being attacked is such a big deal, in my view.
And on the gun grabbing, and on the season of false flags, and how I know they're going to hit us because they've already hit us that way, and they're now pheromoning out the message.
So, here's what I'm going to do: I'm going to take calls to the bottom of the hour, then I'm going to stop there.
Remember to join us is 877-789-2539-877-789-2539.
We got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten callers on the line.
I'm going to try to get to at least all of those.
At least more on the line, I will take those when I'm done covering those topics here in the fourth hour.
Again, thank you all for joining us.
Please don't forget that the biggest sales of our history are going on right now.
And when these are over, we'll never have them this big again.
dan friesen
So, you know, lazy ad pivot.
He's in the fourth hour.
Alex is hosting the fourth hour himself, and he's in the fourth hour here now.
And what he's doing is saying halfway through the fourth hour, I'll get to the news, but in this half hour, I'm going to take 10 calls.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Half hour.
dan friesen
None of this is going to happen.
jordan holmes
10?
No.
dan friesen
You know that none of this is going to be a good question.
jordan holmes
Disciplined show, 10 calls, half hour, bang them out.
Their questions can't be that complicated.
dan friesen
No, no.
And you might have noticed that there's a bit of a jump there.
Like at the end of the second hour, and then now we're already at the fourth hour.
It's because the third hour is a disaster.
unidentified
Is it?
dan friesen
There's a long diatribe about the Las Vegas shooting.
But it's already the stuff that we've already talked about.
His weird conspiracy about any good tracks?
Not really.
However, in the fourth hour.
unidentified
Listen to the songs of the satisfaction.
alex jones
Well, guess what?
The sun sets me free.
I'm not a sun worshiper, but I sure see God's handiwork in that big old ball of fire gives us life on this planet.
jordan holmes
I thought the devil was the light bringer.
alex jones
The dark doesn't scare me.
And the sun, it does set me free.
Because the loose, I'm not saying good morning.
He's not.
All those guys get ordered to do all that Satanism crap.
Try to make money.
Then later they go back to God.
Like the guy, most people at Metallica are Christians.
Dave Mustaine's a Christian at Megadeth.
Almost all those guys are like scared to death of Satanism because they've been around it.
They've seen it.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Also, they're the lamest living rock stars we have.
I don't know if you've noticed that too.
dan friesen
Also, good luck getting through those 10 calls.
Not going to happen.
Very disciplined show, though.
Yes.
Very disciplined.
Talking about how he loves the sun.
jordan holmes
10 minutes, 10 callers, half hour.
We got a little bit of the music out of the way.
So that gives us what?
26 more minutes.
We can still bang it out.
Let's do it.
dan friesen
No, you guys got commercials.
jordan holmes
Two points.
Okay, so fine.
That gives us what?
18 minutes?
Come on.
Bang it out.
1.8 minutes per call.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to the calls.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He rolls the dice.
And it comes up snake-eyed because he gets another critical caller.
jeremy in california
Yeah, hey, man, I've been listening to you for quite some time, and it's a remarkable day when you and John Bolton are on the same page with regard to what's going on in Iraq.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
jeremy in california
You know, it's like, I mean, Alex, what does Trump have to do to get you to, you know, maybe get indignant, mad at him?
I mean, this is the same place.
jordan holmes
Take about a chicken.
jeremy in california
What's going on today?
jordan holmes
Take a bite of chicken.
jeremy in california
He's been amassing troops in that region for this entire year.
Now they're hitting critical mass.
They're looking for an excuse to go in and hit Iran.
Kushner is their link to Israel.
I mean, come on, man.
What's it going to do?
alex jones
So it's okay for Iran to overrun and attack our embassy.
jeremy in california
Oh, go ahead and repeat mainstream media talking points.
alex jones
You're doing exactly what a minute.
Are you?
Okay, so you're saying that's fake video, CG, deep fake.
dan friesen
See how Alex pivots there?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Not going to deal with Bolton.
Gonna talk about whether or not you're faking the fucking caller.
dan friesen
No, no, not faking.
jordan holmes
The video.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's changed it.
Now, what he's presenting this guy's critique to being is like, that was a fake video at the embassy.
That's so sneaky and so lame.
The caller doesn't really fall for it, but he can't really make much headway with Alex because Alex isn't willing to engage with the actual things that are being brought up.
So he rambles a bit.
And then he says this.
He's trying to explain that he's not for offensive wars.
But then kind of makes a justification for attacking Iran.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, yeah.
alex jones
But that's holding over callers.
Come back and tell me, Jeremy, how you think I'm echoing what you're saying?
jordan holmes
Oh, no, this is devil music.
alex jones
Because listen, I'm against starting offensive wars, but Iran is its own kettle of fish, and it's running around like it's the boss in the Middle East, okay?
dan friesen
So you're not for offensive wars, but you think it's appropriate to start a war because Iran is running around acting like the boss of the Middle East.
alex jones
Yes.
dan friesen
These are incongruous positions to have.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's not an offensive war if somebody looks like a bully and you don't understand what or why they're doing, and then you just punch them.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's not offensive.
dan friesen
Right.
I do think that Alex's position makes no sense.
jordan holmes
Yes, I agree.
dan friesen
Okay.
I'm glad that we're going to be able to.
jordan holmes
Let's listen to some more John Bottom tasty licks.
dan friesen
So Alex wants this Jeremy, the scholar who was brought up that he sounds a lot like John Bolton.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
To hang on, hang on.
I'll let you rebut.
jordan holmes
I got to quickly remove a computer chip from this homeless guy, though.
I will get right back to you.
It turns out he's been in the office for the past three weeks.
dan friesen
Alex does have him on hold for a little bit because he's got to ramble about how this is not the beginning of the decade.
alex jones
Try to go live.
Shrim tonight at infowars.com with a live feed and ringing the new year with everybody because it is a big deal 2020.
It's not the end of the decade.
It's the last year of the decade starting, but it's this war on knowledge, the war on calendars.
It's an obsession.
jordan holmes
The war on calendars.
alex jones
Illuminati Jacobins.
dan friesen
The Illuminati Jacobins want you to think that it's the beginning of the decade.
jordan holmes
They have been waging a war on calendars since Gregory.
dan friesen
That is such a crucial plank in their attack, is making people say it's a decade.
jordan holmes
It was the Knights Templar who first weaponized the calendar, Dan.
dan friesen
If these are your enemies.
If these are your enemies, people who want you to think that a decade starts a year earlier than it does.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
Fighting against Hallmark cards next.
dan friesen
So petty.
So I don't know why he gets down this road necessarily, but Alex decides that he's going to address the atheists out there.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice of him.
dan friesen
And I should say that Alex is clear.
He doesn't hate the atheists.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
However, there's a problem.
alex jones
We're literally fighting devil worshipers.
And I want to explain that to atheists out there.
If you're really an atheist because you don't believe in invisible things and you really don't like big fake churches, I have other reasons.
I get you 100%.
And I don't dislike you.
I don't think you're a bad person.
I totally understand.
Okay.
jordan holmes
I think you're a bad person.
alex jones
You know, the people up above you that teach it are devil worshipers.
You understand they drink blood, right?
jordan holmes
That seems nice.
alex jones
I mean, that's my buppet atheist.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
When I was 12, 13, 14, 15 years old.
Okay.
And it was so freaky that I wouldn't even tell my parents about it.
And I would just try to get away from it.
And it's like at the end of The Lost Boys, they're just like the grandpa shows up and it's like, man, I tell you, this town's always had too many vampires in it.
And they're not physically living forever, but it's vampires.
Okay.
dan friesen
I think you just watched The Lost Boys.
jordan holmes
I think he just watched The Lost Boys.
dan friesen
Hey, hey, atheists.
Look, if you're turned off by churches and all that, I get it.
I don't think you're a bad person, but you should know that all of your atheist gurus are vampires.
jordan holmes
That really bums me out to know, but I'm glad that you broke the news to me, Dan.
dan friesen
What the fuck?
I just don't even, I don't even care.
jordan holmes
You didn't have to research any part of that?
dan friesen
I did look into Dawkins.
No everybody.
Everybody.
jordan holmes
You sure he doesn't drink blood?
dan friesen
Sam Harris.
I'm not positive.
I support him, but he's not a vampire from what I can tell.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I do believe that Christopher Hitchens was a vampire, though.
So I will give him that.
I will give him that.
dan friesen
This is the point where I just like, I get frustrated.
And maybe it's just because there's too much of elation in him singing over these songs and this sort of thing.
jordan holmes
It really is a letdown.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, God, we're getting back to the Everyone's a Vampire thing.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Why haven't we heard the Highwayman yet?
dan friesen
Sure.
Oh, that is a great question.
jordan holmes
Why haven't we heard the Highwayman?
dan friesen
I hate to ruin it, but I don't, and I, because I don't want to tease people.
It does not come.
jordan holmes
It doesn't come.
dan friesen
I don't know how.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
That's crazy to me.
dan friesen
Even stranger, no high women.
I would have thought Alex would love that.
So Alex gets back to this caller who said that he sounds like Bolton.
And he rambles quite a bit about the situation in the Middle East.
Sure.
How what Trump is doing is just trying to stop a big war.
jordan holmes
So many.
dan friesen
Right?
So he might attack Iran in order to stop a big war or something.
jordan holmes
I'm sure.
dan friesen
Not entirely sure.
And then this caller gives a nice put-down at Alex.
It really slams him.
alex jones
Trump is legitimately trying to stop a giant war, in my view, while trying to deal with the Chi-Comms that are the real threat.
And the globalists are trying to stir things up in the Middle East to embarrass Trump.
Now, that's my educated view on this.
That's me as a pragmatist, not just support the president.
I see what he's up against.
What do you think?
jeremy in california
I don't know.
I think the way you, I think the word picture you just, you know, Drew is great.
It sounds great.
The problem is, though, is that that isn't the that doesn't appear to be the case.
It appears that we're actually being, you know, led to be the fool.
Once again, we're going to be sold a bill of goods.
We're now airstriking in Iraq because of a contractor, essentially a hired Merc, a Blackwater guy, somebody that you actually would have said back before your relationship with Eric Prince, that you would have said, hey, these guys are.
alex jones
I don't have a relationship with Eric Prince.
Eric Prince has Frontier Services and works with the ChiComs.
I know he helped expose some of the pedophile rings, and I only gave credit to where some of that information came from.
jeremy in california
Well, okay, you've made it sound like there's a little bit more than that.
alex jones
No, no.
Well, you just misunderstood.
dan friesen
If he misunderstood, it was an intentional misunderstanding that Alex presented.
He has implied contact with Eric Prince in the past.
He's spoken really highly of him, especially during the early Trump years.
He's been, no, he talks about how he has ex-Blackwater guards security and stuff like that.
The change, whether or not you want to try and make an argument that Alex actually has presented that he is friends with Eric Prince or not.
Sure, sure, sure.
Leave that aside.
jordan holmes
I don't care either way.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
Leave that aside.
dan friesen
Comparing Alex's prior position about Blackwater and the mercenaries and stuff to where he is now on a lot of those issues, just that alone is plenty to make whatever this caller is accusing Alex of very valid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Alex has taken a very different position on a lot of this stuff than he would have 10 years ago.
Yeah, and Eric Prince.
jordan holmes
Eric Prince is a.
I don't care.
Eric Prince is a fucking stone you wear around your neck forever.
There's no repentance coming from like, I only liked Eric Prince for a while.
It's still a go fuck yourself to me.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So this call ends after Alex rambles about how he didn't, he wasn't friends with Eric Prince.
And then he claims that he has a tooth that got broken the night before.
And so he's bleeding in his mouth.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
It seems like a distraction technique.
jordan holmes
That is the my grandma died for the fourth time this month of bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex still has calls to get through, still hasn't really gotten to the news.
Although I guess he was yelling at this guy about the situation.
jordan holmes
Solved the topic.
dan friesen
I guess moving on.
But Alex really meant to lead the show with some big news, which is halfway through it, no less.
Man, shame he didn't lead the show with this news.
alex jones
All right, I was already going to basically start the broadcast with this today.
And then we had the embassy attack by the Hezbollah, Iranian-backed militia, and that whole crisis blowing up.
And it's that the left is planning to try to trigger a civil war here and call the United Nations into the country.
dan friesen
Oh, really?
That's the big news?
jordan holmes
That was the big news.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
That was the big news.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
Man, if only we're in a holding pattern here, a time slip.
We have accidentally teleported to any day on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, this one, this one is the big one.
This was the big one.
And it happened actually three and a half hours ago.
It's unfortunate, but he got to it a little late.
dan friesen
It's a bummer.
It turns out that Tom Pappert has come up with some news that proves that the UN is going to be getting involved.
Sure.
And just to give you a rough sketch of what this is, Tom Pappert has found a job posting on the UN website that involves disarmament, someone who has expertise and disarmament.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There's no implication that it's for being stationed in the United States.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But they've decided that it is, and these people are going to be used to disarm the United States population.
jordan holmes
Okay, so he's thinking that when they're looking for a disarmament expert, they're not looking for like an academic expert.
dan friesen
And maybe not even an expert, just someone with some familiarity.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You know, in the same way that if you have a job posting for an accounting job, maybe some years of experience.
You're going to need a doctorate in Excel.
jordan holmes
Right.
So, but he thinks that this guy is an expert.
This person will be an expert in physically removing guns from people's hands.
That seems that type of disarmament.
dan friesen
That seems to be the implication.
jordan holmes
Not drawing down nuclear weapons overall.
dan friesen
And further, it involves using these things on the United States.
Well, of course.
So there's a lot of assumptions being made, but it's just like Tom Pappert to crack the big news.
So now that this news, which Alex was going to lead the show with, but didn't, and didn't even bring up until the fourth hour.
jordan holmes
It's surprising how that works.
dan friesen
He now has decided.
jordan holmes
Especially with how disciplined he was going to be at the very end.
dan friesen
The most disciplined broadcast ever.
Alex has decided because of this news, he is now going to join Owen Schroyer on the war room and keep this show a rolling.
jeremy in california
No, why?
jordan holmes
He doesn't even want to be there for the time that he's there.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
This man's insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, but in order to make that war room show as good as it can possibly be, he realizes that he's going to need to get Tom Papert to be on the show.
And why not call him on air?
unidentified
Man.
alex jones
So in the four o'clock hour, I'm going to be over there with Owen.
Breaking all this down.
He'll have the first hour.
I want to call Tom Pappert.
Hell, I'll just call myself right now while I'm on air.
I'll get him set up that way.
Boom.
Make sure he's on.
dan friesen
Boom.
alex jones
Go ahead and call him.
This is so massive that we knew this was coming.
dan friesen
That whistling is an attack.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That is beyond parody.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
No, that's fur.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
I'm just going to call this dumb-dumb I hide.
I'm going to keep it.
Let's talk about the UN today.
Oh, anyways.
So casual.
jordan holmes
Hey, oh, that's right.
Tom, you're coming on to talk about the coming end of civilization.
How are you doing?
dan friesen
So Alex does call Tom.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course he does.
alex jones
Hey, Tom, I got you live on air.
I wanted to make sure this happened.
Owen Schroyer's live with the war room coming up.
I want to co-host because I was already going to make this my main show today, the UN Shi-Com takeover.
And then I got diverted off into this embassy situation.
jordan holmes
And singing.
alex jones
I promise you.
That way, I'll keep the promise.
Can you come on with Owen in about 30 minutes?
And then I'm going to come on right after that.
Absolutely.
Alex, we'll be there.
All right, just tell listeners real quick a little bit about this massive story.
This is from the UN.
This isn't a theory.
It's not something we're just saying.
This is openly the UN recruiting troops for America.
They're now having events in places like Utah, kicking citizens off the streets, saying we own and control this now.
We are sovereign.
I mean, this is what they do all over the world.
They've joined with the Shi-Coms and the internet takeover.
It's just incredible.
dan friesen
They found a job posting.
Anyway, I don't care.
Tom Papert's real, his voice is terrible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's not good.
dan friesen
I'm not going to really listen to that.
And instead, what was he up to?
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
What was Tom Pappert doing?
dan friesen
Probably fucking in-depth research.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I would be interested to know what kind of And what kind of demands does working for Alex have that you might just get a call and be on air?
dan friesen
I mean, you know, it's probably just brainstorming dumb shit.
Yeah, it has to be UN job posting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ridiculous.
dan friesen
What can I make out of this?
Anyway, Alex realizes that he has about 10 minutes left of the show.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
dan friesen
And so, of course, here come the excuses.
alex jones
Okay.
Look, I tried to get to everybody.
I didn't even get to all this news.
We took so many calls.
But let's just try to jam a few of these in, but everybody's just got 30 seconds, 40 seconds or so.
dan friesen
This is exactly what I knew was that was that's what he wanted the whole time.
100% is exactly the clip I knew would end up happening at the end of the episode when he said at the beginning of the episode, I'm super prepared to get into these stories, but I need to get through these calls.
Of course, you're going to get to the end of the show and be like, I didn't get to the news because we had, oh, we just had all these calls.
It's a formula.
jordan holmes
I swear to God, if you told me that clip was from any of our previous episodes, I would believe you.
dan friesen
Well, he does say stuff like that a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, that has no time stamp on it.
That is evergreen.
dan friesen
So he lightning rounds it and tries to go to a couple more calls just to bump that number up a little or whatever.
I guess maybe there's some like stats being kept at the office.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're using the police stats.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he does that, and this is how the show ends.
This is the last bit of InfoWars, Alex Jones show for 2019.
Last of the decade.
Come at me, Alex.
jordan holmes
Come on, some sax.
Give us some saxophone.
dan friesen
You'll be very disappointed.
alex jones
Damn it.
Let's transfer those calls over to the other studio.
Wilde, stay there.
I want to hear your view in the rabbit hole.
All these callers have been amazing.
We must get to every caller.
Andre, Wilde, Derek, Infowars.com, Ford Slash Show.
Everybody watching and listening.
Tell everyone you know, tune in now.
That's how we create a chain reaction.
God bless you all.
unidentified
Message and data rage may apply.
Hell, seriously, I'm too young for hair loss.
dan friesen
There isn't any music.
There is no fanfare, nothing.
It is just Alex yelling at the board ops to transfer the calls over to the war room so Owen Schroer can answer these calls that he didn't get to during his show because he was trying to put off covering any news.
This show, like the end of 2019, this December 31st show is almost a perfect encapsulation of how bad, how unprofessional, undisciplined an operation this is in the present day.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's really disappointing.
There should have been a lot more pageantry.
dan friesen
No, but I'll tell you, it's exactly what it should be.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
If you were trying to get a spiritual sketch of what Alex Jones' show is, the only thing that's missing really is like more racism and probably some violent callers.
Sure.
I don't know how he managed to take as many callers as he did, probably like seven or eight without anybody being like, who we shooting?
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
That isn't.
dan friesen
I'll applaud that.
jordan holmes
That's good.
dan friesen
Maybe they started screening.
alex jones
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Hey, we're going to put you in the call waiting list for Alex, but just real quick, are you going to ask him about killing people?
dan friesen
The sense I get is that there is, you know, you have a broader sample of calls.
And there is at least a certain amount of the people who are inclined to call into his show that are like, you're full of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You are full of shit.
This is nonsense.
Trump is not good.
And I think that's an interesting development.
And into 2020, I wonder what that'll do.
But, you know, like this guy, Alex, is trash at his job.
This is so bad.
It's funny on one level to hear him sing with these songs that just need these pump-up jams to get him going.
unidentified
And a couple of them, like You Belong to the City, straight up.
jordan holmes
Legit jams.
dan friesen
That's pleasant on some level, but you just see it's so transparent.
It's woefully transparent.
This guy just being like completely unable to cover these stories.
I have no idea where to land on any of this.
I haven't read anything.
So, what I'm going to do is put it off and pretend that I'm not putting it off.
We're going to get to the end of the show.
Ah, shit.
What are you going to do?
Then I'm going to go on Owen Schroyer's show and do the exact same thing.
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
It is.
I mean, if there were more malicious shit and weird murder stuff in the third hour, I would say this would be a microcosm of the entirety of Alex's career.
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
And then at the end, it ends not with a bang, but a whimper.
dan friesen
And a balding commercial.
jordan holmes
Balding commercial.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
I mean, on some level, I agree with you.
You know, you want some fireworks to end the year, but it's almost more fitting.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's just like.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem like that's how his show will end as well.
Of just like, and we are not going to be here tomorrow.
Bye.
dan friesen
It just ends with like a slide whistle.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Just sad.
A real sad saxophone sound.
dan friesen
So I couldn't afford.
Happy new year to y'all.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Out there.
I hope you haven't had a good one.
We'll be back in 2020.
That's true.
Well, I guess we're already back in 2020, but we will stay back in 2020.
And we will see you.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Bet it is.
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at Knowledge Underscore Fight, and at GoToBed.
Jordan.
dan friesen
Earlier, I said we were on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook.
There you can find such crucial information, such as it is not the beginning of a new decade.
dan friesen
Debatable.
jordan holmes
Our podcast can be downloaded on iTunes, other podcastual apps, etc.
Download, leave, review, donate, have fun.
Happy new year.
dan friesen
Sure.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am.
I just completely blank.
I belong to the city.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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