Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the day prior to and the day of Roger Stone's conviction, and how things played out on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex seems to reach point of exasperation with Trump not helping his allies, and another familiar face returns from the distant past.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Dan and Jordan, knowledge. | ||
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I love you. | |
| world knowledge fight knowledge fight.com i love you Hey, everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Have you ever been on the receiving end of a random act of kindness by a stranger or the like? | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
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Okay, cool. | |
| Moving on. | ||
| Now, on to the episode. | ||
| We've got some people who are... | ||
| Random act of kindness who joined our Patreon is... | ||
| No, I'm certain I have... | ||
| Oh, I mean, I've... | ||
| Wow, I can't remember the exact specifics of this, but someone went out of their way to get me my wallet back once. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And I remember just the amazing relief of that. | ||
| It was crazy, just the... | ||
| Oh, thank God. | ||
| You lose your wallet. | ||
| You lose a lot. | ||
| There's a lot of various things that are tough to replace. | ||
| Licenses, credit cards. | ||
| I had my social security card in my wallet for a while. | ||
| I did too at that time. | ||
| Oh shit, that's fucked up. | ||
| I didn't realize. | ||
| Oh great, now my social security. | ||
| You can get a new card, but you can't get a new number. | ||
| Fucking shit! | ||
| I just thought everything was over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, not over. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And, yeah, this person, like, went out of their way to get the license back, or the wallet back to me. | ||
| Nothing was missing from it. | ||
| It was like, there are moments like that that I definitely have experienced, but they're not, there's not a... | ||
| I don't know why they don't stick out in my head as much. | ||
| Isn't that awful? | ||
| I can remember single heckler nights, but there are some random acts of kindness. | ||
| I'm like, man, that was really nice. | ||
| Fuck that guy over there! | ||
| It's just how your brain works. | ||
| Totally saved you from so much trouble and you're like, eh, moving along. | ||
| There's one guy who mildly inconvenienced me I'm going to think about for the next decade. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| We should do something about that. | ||
| I'm going to reflect on that and try and value... | ||
| Nice moments more in the future. | ||
| So Jordan, today we've got an interesting episode. | ||
| Oh wait, there's a podcast where I don't know much about my memories of random acts of kindness, but I do know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't know much about either, Dad. | ||
| So today, Jordan, of course, on Mondays, we're generally back in the past, going over 2013, seeing how Alex has progressed after the Sandy Hook shooting and the Boston bombing now. | ||
| Right, and since nothing important has gone on in the present day, I'm assuming we can just get back right into it, right? | ||
| We can't, unfortunately. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Alex Jones has received a very bad piece of news. | ||
| Oh, yeah, what's that? | ||
| That Roger Stone is going to prison. | ||
| Somebody has let me know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Starstone has been found guilty on all seven charges that he was facing. | ||
| He's looking at up to 50 years in prison, but of course he's not going to get 50 years. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He's going to get three. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think three seems low, but I would be surprised if it's more than like eight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's kind of where on that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And, you know, in terms of how much time he's actually going to serve, I would be surprised if it's more than... | ||
| Three or four. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Whatever the case is, I think that would be silly for us to guess at this point. | ||
| So, whatever. | ||
| What will happen will happen. | ||
| We'll learn along the way. | ||
| But if he gets 50 years in prison, that'll be the most hilarious thing ever. | ||
| Yeah, we will definitely be drinking champagne on that day. | ||
| I don't think so, actually, because I would be kind of against that. | ||
| I am super against it, too. | ||
| That's the worst part. | ||
| I think it's way too strong a sentence. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Even as much as I hate Roger, I think... | ||
| I'm against long prison sentences. | ||
| I have to continue to be against long prison sentences despite how... | ||
| Fucking awful Roger Stone is. | ||
| Even a shorter prison sentence for him, I'm not positive, is productive. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think there's any rehabilitation that... | ||
| That's like saying Jim Baker was rehabilitated, you know? | ||
| Like, it's not happening. | ||
| I don't know what you do, because the issue is you've got to take away or somehow mitigate his ability to be a, you know, as they say, a rat fucker. | ||
| I think you have to cut his tongue out? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| I don't know if going to prison achieves that goal. | ||
| He's not going to learn a lesson. | ||
| No, there's no lessons to be learned. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't pretend to know the right answer. | ||
| But whatever the case is, Alex thinks he's going to get 50 plus years in prison. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| They're just going to let him die in prison. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| So we have to go over this because it's an unfolding saga in Alex's life. | ||
| So today we're going over November 14th and 15th of 2019, which is, I guess, what would that have been? | ||
| Thursday and Friday of last week. | ||
| Thursday, the 14th, is when Alex still doesn't know what's going to happen. | ||
| Roger isn't sentenced until Friday. | ||
| So his behavior before sentencing and after, I think you'll see his behavior isn't great. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so we'll enjoy that as we go along. | ||
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| And unfortunately, they are both people who have maybe corrected my pronunciation in the past. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And this is a redemption arc? | ||
| No. | ||
| I think I might have gotten it right. | ||
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| Indeed we would. | ||
| That's ominous. | ||
| So, Jordan, before we get down to business, let's hear an out-of-context drop from today's show. | ||
| I was in court once they were asking me what TikTok is. | ||
| I'm curious, too. | ||
| Was that when he was on the stand? | ||
| Was he under oath whenever he had to answer that question? | ||
| It might have just been in the halls. | ||
| What's a TikTok? | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| What did Alex say? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He didn't get his answer to that very pressing question. | ||
| I took my children's phones away. | ||
| So, Jordan, today, like I said, this is the saga of Roger and Alex. | ||
| On the 14th... | ||
| A song of ice and fire, if you will. | ||
| On the 14th, Roger's case is still ongoing, and Alex behaves in ways that I think probably caused some problems for Roger's trial. | ||
| You know, he's on air, and his big position is essentially that this is going to be a railroading. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They want to basically railroad Roger Stone, as we all know. | ||
| And once they set the precedent for that, they think they're going to railroad everybody else. | ||
| And it's real tyranny. | ||
| And it's woken a lot of people up. | ||
| And I've learned a lot of really horrible things about the trial from the Stone camp last night and this morning. | ||
| And from some reporters that are going to be joining us. | ||
| And this whole thing is a lot bigger than Roger Stone. | ||
| This is about due process in this country being flushed down the toilet. | ||
| Because once due process is gone, if you think there's already tyranny in this country, well, wait, we'll get as bad as North Korea, probably a lot worse, because we tend to do everything real big here in America. | ||
| I'd like to point out that yesterday on his show, Steve Pchenik was on talking about how due process doesn't work in the United States, and it's a joke. | ||
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I don't understand. | |
| What's the problem? | ||
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Get rid of it. | |
| What's the problem here? | ||
| Fuck due process. | ||
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What? | |
| From day to day, anything can be true, Dan. | ||
| I just need a guy in the Department of Justice who will throw people in prison. | ||
| I don't have any faith in courts. | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah, so, I mean, he had a very trusted guest talking about, oh, this guy's amazing. | ||
| And this is about the end of due process in America, and it's not... | ||
| For me! | ||
| It's for them! | ||
| Why is it happening to me? | ||
| So, Alex is primarily focused on Roger Stone's case, but he's also touching in on the impeachment inquiry. | ||
| Largely, his take on it is dismissive. | ||
| It's more or less... | ||
| Not covering any of the substance of what's going on. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| None of the things that are being said by, like, Bill Taylor or the former ambassador to Ukraine. | ||
| Just sort of just letting a lot of that stuff go on set. | ||
| Oh, I think Fox News is eventually going to run reruns of HR Puffin stuff and all that stuff. | ||
| Wouldn't be a terrible idea. | ||
| They are not really happy with what's going on. | ||
| It seems like Alex is in the same camp. | ||
| He's not going the same route as a lot of these other media outlets that I've seen where their coverages is like, oh, this is boring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thanks, guys. | ||
| But his is just like, ah, it's a dog and pony show. | ||
| It's all. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So in terms of the impeachment, he has a weird theory about it. | ||
| And that's the next phase is the Democrats are now calling for there not to be a trial in the Senate. | ||
| Just if the House votes that impeachment proceedings have initiated, well, they already had the trial they're claiming, though that's not how it works with this show trial. | ||
| And so the Senate doesn't need one. | ||
| What? | ||
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Because if they have a real trial, Trump will be totally and completely exonerated, just like Roger Stone would have been. | |
| I'm predicting that Roger Stone will be found guilty. | ||
| Believe there's a lot of truth to what Alex is saying about, like, I don't even need to do anything in the Senate. | ||
| It's all taken care of here. | ||
| I'm sure whatever procedure needs to be taken, people would be fine with. | ||
| And I don't think that I've heard many voices in Democratic or left sides have any faith. | ||
| That the Senate is going to vote to remove, even if the impeachment makes it through the House. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I don't think anybody thinks that that's going to proceed that way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, nobody does. | ||
| The problem is everybody on the right agrees we can handle this, and Trump is really trying hard to make it so they can't. | ||
| Like, if Trump would just be quiet... | ||
| I swear to God, everything would be fine. | ||
| They'd have 40 senators vote to exonerate him. | ||
| He'd be fine. | ||
| Everything would go on. | ||
| He'd probably win the election. | ||
| But he keeps tweeting, and he's threatening a witness, and they're like, God damn it! | ||
| Shut up! | ||
| We're saving you! | ||
| We're trying. | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a little weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then at the end there, Alex is saying that he predicts Roger is going to be found guilty. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's because he did it. | ||
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That's because he knows that Roger's fucking real guilty. | |
| So, Alex goes on with his prediction here, and as you can see, very conveniently sets up the whatever the case, even if he's guilty, he's not guilty, narratives. | ||
| I am predicting that Roger Stone will be found guilty. | ||
| On all six counts, probably, by the rigged jury. | ||
| And believe me, is it rigged? | ||
| Remember, we exposed, it was in the news, that a major Democrat The official from the Obama administration, his husband worked at the Mueller probe, was selected for the jury. | ||
| When we exposed that and said you shouldn't have Obama or Hillary or anybody else that worked for him at a high level on the jury, they said I should be arrested for jury tampering when all I was doing was expose to corruption. | ||
| Of course, it turned out it was all totally legal. | ||
| But now we know that there are a bunch of other Obama officials and Hillary officials and spooks from the CIA are indeed... | ||
| On that jury, one juror clearly was supporting Stone. | ||
| She fell down yesterday and hit her head and was replaced by an alternate juror, as they call them. | ||
| No, you can't make this up. | ||
| Alex later says that she was in a pool of blood. | ||
| It's real sensational. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I haven't been following this. | ||
| It's really easy for Alex to come up with whatever disparaging thing he wants to say about some of these jurors because it's in D.C. So the odds are, in the jury pool, there are going to be some people with a history of civil service, perhaps. | ||
| And given that the last eight years prior to 2016 was during the Obama administration, it makes sense that some people might have some of that in their resume. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So you could make up whatever you want about any of these people based on a resume thing. | ||
| I read a story that someone on the jury had worked for the IRS. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Now we get to turn this into an anti-tax fun thing. | ||
| Sure, fine. | ||
| You know, whatever you want to do, you can do. | ||
| So, great. | ||
| The only jury they would accept is if everybody was a long-haul truck driver, but they were independent contractors. | ||
| And they all had Trump bumper stickers on their trucks. | ||
| So, there's no indication that I can find that there's any foul play in the jury with Roger's trial, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| Alex made such a huge prediction and production out of trying and failing twice to identify the potential juror who worked for the Obama Office of Management and Budget, so now that narrative is firmly in place. | ||
| That woman didn't make the jury. | ||
| Alex was completely wrong about everything in that story, but because he established it as a clear indication of railroading, all he needs to do to prove to his audience that Roger was set up is to yell about that person who didn't even end up as a juror. | ||
| It's real flimsy work, but it does work, apparently. | ||
| Yeah, that's not fair. | ||
| I can't find any evidence that an elderly woman juror who was pro-Roger fell down and hit her head, which I'm sure Alex is bringing up to suggest was an inside job. | ||
| Of course it was! | ||
| I'm guessing this is just based on the person who collapsed in the courtroom on the first day of preliminary jury selection. | ||
| That story went around. | ||
| When Roger was also in food poisoning or whatever. | ||
| So she's turned into a woman who is hitting the head by a candlestick and we've got to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| There's no reason to think that person was even a potential juror, let alone an actual one. | ||
| I would say it's probably impossible they made the jury considering they collapsed and received medical attention on the day the jury was being selected. | ||
| So if that's what he's trying to bring in, I'm not sure. | ||
| No way, it's like the Michael Jordan flu game. | ||
| She came back and she fucking nailed the jury questioning. | ||
| I'm not saying it's impossible that someone was replaced by an alternate juror. | ||
| That is entirely possible, but I can't find any real information about this. | ||
| And later, the only information Alex has is coming from Joe Biggs, who was there. | ||
| Rambo Joe Biggs. | ||
| He was there at the courtroom, and he says that the woman juror who gets replaced was anti-Roger. | ||
| So it's actually contradictory. | ||
| So it's the other way around. | ||
| I don't see any reality to this. | ||
| But it's what Alex needs, because he knows Roger is going to be found guilty, and he needs defense. | ||
| So, Alex brings up that he talked to Roger last night. | ||
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He should not have done that. | |
| He should not have done that. | ||
| This is an incredibly important point in human history right now. | ||
| And I can tell you that when Roger is convicted, and I'm almost always right, maybe a miracle is going to happen. | ||
| You know, I talked to him last night and he said only a miracle of God right now is going to stop this. | ||
| And he said he wouldn't talk about what happened inside. | ||
| He's not going to give the judge any reason to nail him even harder. | ||
| So I talked to people who were in the courtroom, and they said that the jury shakes with hate at him and stares at him like they want to kill him in their virtue signaling to the media and to all of the intelligence agency operatives and Obama and Hillary officials that are in there staring at Roger like they want to kill him. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, you know, this is not a fair trial. | ||
| I mean, if everybody's staring at him like he wants to kill him... | ||
| And shaking with hatred. | ||
| Shaking with hatred. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| I don't know if I've ever shook with hatred. | ||
| Only on this show have I shook with hate here. | ||
| I don't know if that's a common phenomenon. | ||
| I don't believe any of this. | ||
| This is just coming from bullshit Roger fans at the trial who are just trying to come up with whatever narrative is possible to impugn the trial. | ||
| That's all that's going on here. | ||
| Imagine if I could guess at human behavior, assuming that most of these people don't have a wide breadth of knowledge regarding Roger Stone that we do, rather than shake with hatred, they probably all just kind of rolled their eyes a bunch whenever he talked, they were like, That's obviously bullshit. | ||
| You can't say that in the court. | ||
| You can say that out there. | ||
| Roger didn't talk. | ||
| He didn't take the stand. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| That's smart. | ||
| He didn't even try and defend himself. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| He did it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| How are you going to defend yourself when you have these text messages that you sent to Randy Credico where you're telling him, prepare to die, cocksucker. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That one's tough to talk your way around. | ||
| You have just... | ||
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Tons of literal evidence of you'd witness tampering. | |
| You've got to plead the fifth. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You sent a note to one of the juror members that you'd give them $50,000. | ||
| That's what kind of tampering you're doing. | ||
| The only possible outcome of you testifying is being asked a question that you don't want to answer. | ||
| That's the only thing. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| From everything I can tell... | ||
| Roger and his team were just sort of like, let's get through this and hope for a light sense. | ||
| We don't want to plead guilty, but we don't want to cause too much trouble. | ||
| That's the sense that I get. | ||
| So, anyway, whatever. | ||
| Alex has talked to Roger, but he has to be very careful about what he says. | ||
| Alright, I have talked to Roger Stone. | ||
| Last night and this morning, and I've talked to a lot of the reporters that were in the trial yesterday where the closing statements of the defense and the prosecution ended at 10 a.m. Eastern about two and a half hours ago. | ||
| They began deliberations. | ||
| Now, Roger hasn't violated his gag order getting into the case with me. | ||
| He just said that he leaves it in God's hands and that he's praying for a miracle. | ||
| And then I talked to reporters like Joe Biggs, Jacob Ingalls, and others. | ||
| Not reporters. | ||
| And as soon as the verdict comes out, you're going to get to learn about what is undoubtedly... | ||
| The fakest trial I've ever heard of in U.S. history. | ||
| There is not a lot of information that he produces after the verdict. | ||
| Oh, he doesn't? | ||
| This is the fakest trial. | ||
| No, it's the fakest trial in American history. | ||
| And I love the way that this always works. | ||
| It's like he yells about something, the natural, obvious, real-world conclusion of the thing happens, then he takes credit for it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that person wasn't going to make the jury? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's obviously not going to happen. | ||
| He screams about it, knowing that, nah, the person's not going to make the jury. | ||
| Ha! | ||
| We exposed it! | ||
| We won! | ||
| We did it, guys. | ||
| It's a load of shit. | ||
| We got one taken down. | ||
| Unfortunately, they had more than enough to convict him on account of, he did it! | ||
| Again! | ||
| Again! | ||
| So, the line tends to be that Roger didn't do anything wrong, and that Trump obviously, like, Roger got Trump elected. | ||
| And, like, he needs to come through for the guy. | ||
| Alex and Trump and Roger, they're all so connected. | ||
| And Alex says something really weird in this next clip. | ||
| Hell, I got invited once to Mar-a-Lago to go to the secret tunnel, but I didn't go because I had a family emergency. | ||
| But, you know, Roger went. | ||
| And I'm not telling any secrets here. | ||
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Wait, wait, wait. | |
| Not telling any secrets. | ||
| About the secret tunnel? | ||
| How'd you describe that tunnel? | ||
| I didn't know there was a tunnel there. | ||
| Apparently it was a secret tunnel. | ||
| Now that I know there's a secret tunnel, I would like more information about this tunnel. | ||
| Apparently Alex got invited to go to the secret tunnel. | ||
| Tunnels are not necessarily things that are very exciting, except to children. | ||
| Exploring around, you find a tunnel, very exciting. | ||
| As an adult, a tunnel is sort of a byway. | ||
| It gets you somewhere. | ||
| It's on the way to what now, Dan? | ||
| That's the secret. | ||
| It's nice. | ||
| It's good to know that our president really does lean into the supervillain James Bond-style aesthetic. | ||
| Even his Mar-a-Lago estate has secret fucking tunnels. | ||
| I would assume that that makes some sense, though. | ||
| Especially now that he's the president. | ||
| If he's going to be there a lot, you've got to have some secure area. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| I'm guessing that the secret tunnel was there a long time ago. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But even that kind of makes sense. | ||
| You've got to put some place where you can go into lockdown. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I suppose. | ||
| I don't think that it necessarily means something like there's a secret Pizzagate basement or whatever. | ||
| I'm not saying there's a Pizzagate basement. | ||
| And I also don't think it's all that. | ||
| But at least it's Sbarro. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Maybe he's got a little pedway down there. | ||
| Got a food court. | ||
| Yeah, I think that'd be great. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like underneath Willis Tower. | ||
| Sears Tower, if you're Chicagoan. | ||
| Hey, there you go. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know how secret this is because I have very little interest in... | ||
| Finding out about the architecture of Mar-a-Lago? | ||
| And never have had much interest in that. | ||
| That might be like a poorly kept secret or whatever, but I've never heard about it, and Alex is the first person to bring it up to me, so I feel like he's revealing secrets. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But the truth is that the globalists just hated stone. | ||
| Roger. | ||
| Because he gave Trump great advice. | ||
| And so that's why they got enraged by Stone and were obsessed with him was because he was giving the president great advice. | ||
| Because they go back 44 years now. | ||
| And Stone used to be Trump's wingman, dating, and Trump's beard. | ||
| And again, Trump is not having a beard for homosexual sex. | ||
| Beards go the other way, too, where your buddy goes out with you and your girlfriend when you're famous so people don't know that you're out with your girlfriend. | ||
| They think it's their girlfriend. | ||
| And that's what Stone and Trump go way back in, is originally sometimes dating the same women. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I love... | ||
| So is that something you want to say? | ||
| I love that this is the level that we've reached. | ||
| I know that Alex has brought this up before in the past, but he seems very focused on it in this. | ||
| Now that Roger is on trial, he's really bringing it up. | ||
| And I don't know if this is an attempt to humanize Roger. | ||
| I don't know if it's an attempt to make us all think about Roger and Trump both having slept with the same woman and pretending that that's okay. | ||
| Whatever it is is weird. | ||
| Everything about this is weird. | ||
| It's a family show. | ||
| Why would you tell anyone that? | ||
| That's the type of thing you don't tell people because that's very unrelatable. | ||
| We used to date the same women. | ||
| It deteriorates from here even. | ||
| How does it... | ||
| And I can tell you the two get in fights with each other too. | ||
| I mean, Trump just don't talk straight to the president and they get in big arguments and all the rest of it. | ||
| You fucked my girlfriends. | ||
| Girlfriends that each other had back and forth. | ||
| They never double teamed any chicks. | ||
| I'm not trying to get graphic here, but the media will spin all this stuff. | ||
| Family show. | ||
| Family show. | ||
| The media's gonna spin all this stuff? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I would say, if they are adult... | ||
| People getting in fights over girlfriends that they share. | ||
| They are children. | ||
| I don't think this is a good defense. | ||
| This makes Trump and Roger both look really childish. | ||
| And a little bit territorial, a little bit possessive. | ||
| If they have an understanding where they can both date the same women, then fighting over that woman is very gross. | ||
| That is an inappropriate type of behavior. | ||
| You should... | ||
| If you're in for a penny, in for a pound. | ||
| Yeah, and I assume during this time... | ||
| It's turning that girl that you're dating, this woman that you're dating, into a thing that you're fighting over, and that's shitty. | ||
| Man, that sure seems to be something that Trump has a long track record of doing, perhaps. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like it might be. | ||
| So I don't think this is a good defense. | ||
| I really wish that there was... | ||
| I really wish the mainstream media would twist this story and so I could get a fantastic chyron of just Stone and Trump Eiffel Towered same woman and just moving it on. | ||
| Or didn't. | ||
| Or didn't, yes, yeah. | ||
| Gotta get ahead of the story. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So, like I said, Joe Biggs was on the scene. | ||
| Rambo Joe Biggs. | ||
| Rambo Joe Biggs. | ||
| And here is him contradicting Alex's narrative about the replaced juror. | ||
| We're expecting it to be... | ||
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Just not good. | |
| You know, we've seen that this has been a hit from the get-go, but we're all hoping for the best. | ||
| You know, one of the jurors got sick. | ||
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She was a lady that would actually kind of snarl. | |
| At the site of Roger. | ||
| So she's now been replaced with someone else. | ||
| So that could be good news. | ||
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You never know. | |
| So Alex's position was that the replaced juror was someone who was pro-Roger and was clearly taken out in order to make sure that he gets convicted. | ||
| Hit with a candlestick. | ||
| Apparently the person who was there on the scene, Rambo Joe Biggs, is saying that this woman snarled at Roger. | ||
| So her getting replaced is actually probably a good thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't have it both ways. | ||
| Can you have it both ways? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| You can if you're Alex. | ||
| It turns out you can. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| So Alex is kind of surprised how much he's worried for Roger, which I think is strange because the two of them got very close over the last few years. | ||
| I would be surprised if he wasn't really worried for Roger. | ||
| He's going to prison. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think Alex is familiar with these feelings, such as like, Care for another human being. | ||
| I still think it's primarily selfish. | ||
| I know. | ||
| In that, like, if Roger goes down, I'm next. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So I still think that there's a bit of a self-centeredness to it. | ||
| But he's surprised. | ||
| I'm really surprised how much I'm worried about Roger Stone. | ||
| I mean, I like the guy. | ||
| I know the guy. | ||
| He's a man. | ||
| I'm a man. | ||
| He knows the business he's in. | ||
| It's a dangerous game fighting these tyrants. | ||
| But just to watch them systematically rig the media, rig the indictment, rig the jury, and to learn the judge laughing and snorting and cackling and not letting him have any of his witnesses. | ||
| Roger was not not allowed to have any witnesses. | ||
| The defense didn't call any witnesses. | ||
| Right, because then they would be asked questions. | ||
| Those questions would lead to... | ||
| Yeah, he did it. | ||
| Or the people that Roger could call, he would want to lie for him and no one would do it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Like, who would be his witness? | ||
| Randy Credico. | ||
| Not anymore. | ||
| Randy Credico is testifying against him. | ||
| Roger doesn't want to call Jerome Corsi to the stand. | ||
| No, no. | ||
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That's bullshit. | |
| There's no win for him in calling witnesses. | ||
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No. | |
| But it's really good for the court of public opinion. | ||
| It's really good for Alex that Roger didn't take the stand and didn't call any witnesses because externally you could look at that as the judge didn't let him take the stand. | ||
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If only Roger could have got up there, he would have been Jack Nicholson and a few good men. | |
| He was going to put the system on trial. | ||
| Yeah, but Jack Nicholson admitted to the crime too. | ||
| Forget about it. | ||
| Not important. | ||
| It's a great scene. | ||
| It's a great scene. | ||
| He would have gotten up there and destroyed. | ||
| But because he wasn't allowed to, he was fucking railroaded. | ||
| It's a perfect thing. | ||
| It's really good for Alex. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So Alex says that he talked to Roger. | ||
| And part of that is that now he is going to deliver a message from Roger. | ||
| And I think that this is not good for anybody. | ||
| Donate money to me? | ||
| It gets to that. | ||
| Of course it does. | ||
| But I think that this is not good for anyone except Alex. | ||
| If you look at this from a game theory perspective, Alex is the only person with a positive outcome. | ||
| Alright, I like that. | ||
| We are going to have to stand up for Stone. | ||
| And we're going to have to speak up for Stone. | ||
| And as soon as I was making some calls this morning, people were like, well, we don't want to get Stone in trouble. | ||
| We don't want to get in trouble with this judge. | ||
| This judge is not God, folks. | ||
| She called for my arrest last week. | ||
| And then the whole law profession said, no, what he did is totally legal. | ||
| And this is dangerous to have a judge saying you can't question jurors. | ||
| Juror info is public. | ||
| The entire law profession. | ||
| The entire law profession. | ||
| All of law. | ||
| This is cool. | ||
| Law! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Doesn't matter if MSNBC says it isn't. | ||
| But I can tell people that this is what Roger's wishes are. | ||
| And so it's not just me up here coming up with a plan. | ||
| Free Roger Stone. | ||
| That's Roger's right if he's wrongfully convicted. | ||
| Because you watch the media, he'll say it's not. | ||
| To call for the president to pardon him. | ||
| So Alex is introducing that he has a message from Roger. | ||
| And it's really crucial that he's stressing that this is what Roger wants. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because the trial is still going. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is a murky territory. | ||
| I'm not sure anything is necessarily illegal in that, but it's a bad strategy move. | ||
| I really don't like how often, in regards to so much of this stuff, we have to say, I don't think it's necessarily illegal. | ||
| It's a gray area. | ||
| We're living in a place where a lot of stuff probably should be illegal in certain ways. | ||
| And none of it is! | ||
| It's strange, all the technicalities. | ||
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| Wow, you can get away with that. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| We're all like, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| You can just release somebody else's name who's not a potential juror, subjector to violence from your people, and that's fine? | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So Alex has Joe Biggs on the scene, Rambo Joe Biggs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he apparently is a part of a plan that Alex is launching, which is Roger's Wishes. | ||
| As he's expressed. | ||
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| And it's not a good plan. | ||
| Joe, obviously, you've been let in on the plan. | ||
| And if and when he is convicted, which I would expect to be this afternoon or tomorrow, it's good news the longer they're out. | ||
| They've been out three hours now. | ||
| We need everyone to go to the White House and surround it for days. | ||
| We need more and more people to come there for due process and for justice and to say and to chant, free Roger Stone. | ||
| Again, you just had Steve Pachanik on anti-due process. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But I think that there's nothing wrong with encouraging people to go to the White House and demonstrate. | ||
| But I don't trust that Joe Biggs is going to be a responsible person to be involved in that. | ||
| Seeing as he has posted videos with a spiky bat or whatever, threatening Antifa, he's down with the Proud Boys. | ||
| I don't think that the indication that Joe is, quote, in on the plan leads me to suspect that this will be a very poorly carried out demonstration. | ||
| You know, I just always think it's a good idea to put... | ||
| Notoriously violent people in front of and leading a mob. | ||
| I think that's just a great way to deal with things. | ||
| I think it's irresponsible. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If done with like, you know... | ||
| Correct permitting and people behaving themselves. | ||
| And no Proud Boys. | ||
| I would like that. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| The idea that people would go and just hold signs and protest for Roger to get a pardon, I don't really necessarily think that's a bad thing. | ||
| I think it's a bad idea. | ||
| I think Trump giving him a pardon would be a bad thing. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Which I don't think is actually likely at all. | ||
| At least... | ||
| Not until the possibility of Trump winning in 2020. | ||
| If he won in 2020, then I think there's a good chance he would pardon. | ||
| But then again, he pardoned Joe Arpaio, and he just pardoned guys who got convicted of war crimes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I don't know anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it turns out that America doesn't really care that much about war crimes or people who essentially create internment camps. | ||
| Really care politically about Roger Stone. | ||
| It would be a real shitty feeling if you're Roger and you see this news of Trump pardoning these guys. | ||
| Roger's like, God damn it, I should have killed three civilians. | ||
| Why didn't I kill anybody? | ||
| Why not me? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All I did was get you elected fucking president illegally committing all these crimes. | ||
| Wait, I shouldn't have said that second part. | ||
| So Alex, like he said already, he has a message from Roger, but he hasn't said the message yet. | ||
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You had something to hide. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, I've got a message to you from Roger Stone, who's got a gag ball in his mouth, politically right now, and who is facing certain conviction, in my view, any minute now, at the hands of a true kangaroo court. | ||
| And the railway that Judge Jackson has built from the federal courthouse directly into federal prison for Donald John Trump's longtime wingman. | ||
| Why are you emphasizing that again? | ||
| Who Roger Stone really is, not his chief political advisor. | ||
| He's that too. | ||
| But he is Trump's wingman. | ||
| And that's what you get for being this great president's wingman. | ||
| He's trying to stress it because of, I think he wants to really play up the idea that they're trying to attack Trump's support network personally, as opposed to it being, Roger did things that are illegal, and he's going to be punished for it. | ||
| I mean, that's not a terrible angle there. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| But it's pretty transparent. | ||
| The fact that you were, you know, like, why do you keep bringing that up? | ||
| Like I said, he has said that in the past, but it's real pushed. | ||
| On this episode. | ||
| He's really pushing that really hard. | ||
| And I think it is to personalize it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's because if you think about him as... | ||
| This is just Trump's buddy. | ||
| They go fucking hang out on the weekends, they have a good time, and they're attacking just Trump's buddy? | ||
| He's gonna be punished for that. | ||
| Not premier rat fucker who's helped regimes topple and genocides occur and all of this shit. | ||
| Not that, Roger. | ||
| The Roger who likes to fuck with his buddy. | ||
| Yay! | ||
| But he keeps teasing this message, and it's very weird to me, and I don't know what I think about it. | ||
| And so at the bottom of the hour, I've got... | ||
| Roger's message through me to you. | ||
| And I'm just going to leave it at that. | ||
| I have to be very, very careful about what I say because they'll try to use it to put him in prison longer. | ||
| But I obviously have talked to Roger and I'm not going to bow down to these criminals. | ||
| Why would you tease this? | ||
| Why would you say get to it at the bottom of the hour? | ||
| Why would you do that if you had a message? | ||
| A desperate message from Roger Stone that he wants you to disseminate to your audience. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why would you do that? | ||
| It seems like you would be like, listen, I'm going to lead the show with this. | ||
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| This is really important. | ||
| Roger is, you know, the jury is deliberating as we speak. | ||
| He is a political prisoner. | ||
| You know, you would think that you would get to it. | ||
| Well, it's got to be a big message. | ||
| I suppose in 20-foot-tall flaming letters on the planet Svorby upstream. | ||
| Is God's last message to his creation, right? | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| I would feel like... | ||
| I get the sense that this is teasing for the sake of trying to build anticipation, try and get people to tweet about it, get more audience, get more eyes on it. | ||
| It's going to be something about money. | ||
| I see... | ||
| I get a sense of that. | ||
| Because... | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| What's difficult about it is like... | ||
| The behavior of getting to the news right ahead or teasing it is something that Alex could do with something that's real or fake. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| He is such a rangy, unpredictable player with this sort of stuff that a normal, rational human, I would see that behavior as an indication that this isn't real. | ||
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| But with Alex, I really don't know. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Could be. | |
| Anything's possible. | ||
| He's like a junk baller. | ||
| Yeah, but he's going to get to that later. | ||
| Coming down the road. | ||
| But for now, he's got to get to big, important news. | ||
| Put that headline back up for folks. | ||
| Rolling Stone, the witnesses calling it bizarre sacrifice parties at Ed Buck's meth mansion. | ||
| Feds probe Adam Schiff dressed like Egyptian at bizarre sacrifice parties at Ed Buck's meth mansion 14 hours ago. | ||
| See, I didn't even know that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's true pundit. | ||
| And Rolling Stone has an article about it as well. | ||
| I didn't even know that. | ||
| I was telling you that he's a devil-worshipping pedophile. | ||
| Of course he is. | ||
| Wait! | ||
| No! | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| You're not understanding how news works. | ||
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| If you knew that and then you called him a demon-worshipping pedophile, hooray! | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can't just say it first and then be like, hey, check that out. | ||
| It turns out I was right. | ||
| That's not news. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| First things first, Alex is doing one of his old tricks here. | ||
| He's taking a story that was published in a shitty right-wing blog that never gets any stories right, like True Pundit, and pretending it's a story in an outlet that has editors and operates by some standards, like Rolling Stone. | ||
| This is just a story on True Pundit, and like most of the shit on that site, it can just be ignored. | ||
| But, this story is actually really interesting. | ||
| If you read the article, it says that Schiff was dressed in ancient Egyptian garb, and the FBI is probing him as part of his routine presence at Ed Buck's meth parties. | ||
| Since the story is being reported, you might expect a law enforcement source. | ||
| You might expect someone with the FBI giving a comment. | ||
| You might expect a supporting story out of literally any media, maybe a local news outlet. | ||
| Schiff agreeing that he did it. | ||
| Something. | ||
| You don't get that. | ||
| This entire story is based on one source, and it's a good friend of ours. | ||
| Noted hard rice enthusiast Larry Nichols. | ||
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| Come on! | ||
| Do not! | ||
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| Fuck off! | ||
| This article... | ||
| This is not Larry Nichols. | ||
| This is. | ||
| How... | ||
| How long ago was this? | ||
| The first was in October. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| Alright, we're going to have to fucking call this motherfucker. | ||
| This article includes a quote from Larry about Adam Schiff. | ||
| Quote, this guy is kinky. | ||
| We're going to need to talk to Larry about this. | ||
| But he's old. | ||
| Don't call him now. | ||
| Who's reached for comment on that? | ||
| Who's got Larry Nichols' phone number but me anymore? | ||
| Beyond the sourcing problems here, this article is just horribly written. | ||
| Given that Schiff was said to be dressed like an Egyptian, the article literally says, quote, we can make a leap here that partygoers were likely worshipping pyramids of meth. | ||
| This is terrible writing. | ||
| Okay, so, if I understand correctly, if you are dressed in Egyptian garb going to a party, chances are... | ||
| As we all know. | ||
| Pyramids of meth. | ||
| From our histories at meth parties. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Clearly it's a pyramid of meth parties. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| This is a perfect demonstration of something Alex does a lot. | ||
| One of his associates, often someone like Larry or John Rappaport, will go and they'll lie to another media outlet that has zero journalistic standards. | ||
| That outlet will publish Alex's friend's claims with sensational headlines and no scrutiny. | ||
| Then Alex gets to turn around and report this as if it's solid objective reporting that is completely independent from him. | ||
| It's an interconnected web of liars, but it's very interesting to see Larry Nichols getting back into the game. | ||
| I haven't seen hide nor hair of him on Alex's show since September 21st, 2017, when he threatened to blackmail Congress on air. | ||
| That was a good day. | ||
| But it would make sense for him to start getting more active now. | ||
| Clearly, Alex, and he's not alone in this, is trying to create the narrative that Hillary is secretly running in 2020, and if you need someone to smear people in Clinton's orbit... | ||
| Larry is your guy. | ||
| He has got the fake receipts for 30 years back now. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| He's got all the fake receipts. | ||
| Anyway, the point here is that the True Pundit story is shit until confirmed by anyone who knows what confirming things mean. | ||
| For now, this is just Larry Nichols talking shit. | ||
| Man, that's a fun gig, True Pundit, where you get to see... | ||
| Oh, it seems like he was wearing an Egyptian outfit. | ||
| So we can assume it was pyramids of meth. | ||
| Well, what kind of place gives you the latitude to make that kind of assumption? | ||
| Got to be a great job. | ||
| That's a fun gig. | ||
| That's a fun job. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I were smart, I would go work for them. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| That's professional wrestling storytelling right there. | ||
| Yeah, but at the same time, nothing they do can make me feel as good as when I'm listening to Alex tell a story and be like, let me look into that. | ||
| Ha ha, Larry! | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That moment of revelation is very exciting. | ||
| Like, Nichols is back! | ||
| How is Nichols back? | ||
| Well, I think that what's old is new again. | ||
| And I think that as Alex is trying to ramp up into this pretending Hillary's running again. | ||
| I don't know if he has to do this, but it makes sense to do it. | ||
| You've got to start going back to what worked last time. | ||
| You ran a campaign against Hillary four years ago. | ||
| So what did you do back then? | ||
| Well, bullshit that Larry said was really helpful. | ||
| So start reporting on other outlets covering lies, Larry says. | ||
| And then one of the other things that Alex tries to pretend wasn't what he did is Pizzagate stuff. | ||
| And so, what do you know? | ||
| We start to see Pizzagate shit pop back up. | ||
| Some weird-ass stuff, man. | ||
| Hillary and her foundation head got caught shipping all those little black kids out of Haiti. | ||
| A bunch of them ended up dead. | ||
| Disappeared. | ||
| I mean, that's just like... | ||
| You're not going to hear a damn word out of Van Jones. | ||
| Van Jones knows full well they got a taste for black meat. | ||
| They know those devil worshippers want that blood. | ||
| They gonna get it! | ||
| They're going to get the black babies, too! | ||
| And then Jones ain't going to say nothing about it because he knows where he gets the money from. | ||
| So he can point at me and say, I'm the racist because I don't want to kill the black babies. | ||
| And every other damn baby they can get their hands on. | ||
| Remember those Alistair Crowley sex rituals? | ||
| They like the walnut sauce. | ||
| They want the brown babies. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
| And they're going to get you babies. | ||
| And you're going to like them for it. | ||
| Because they're liberal. | ||
| There are a whole lot of very legitimate critiques that you can make about Clinton's work in Haiti. | ||
| And it would be nice if Alex were interested in any of those. | ||
| But he's not. | ||
| Most of them are difficult to understand. | ||
| And he likes to keep those sorts of issues to a minimum. | ||
| It's just so much easier to yell about dumb conspiracy theories about elites kidnapping children to drink their blood. | ||
| Way less work goes into that. | ||
| What Alex is talking about with that Clintons in Haiti case, it was a case involving an organization named New Life Children's Refuge, and specifically the group's founder, Laura Silsby. | ||
| On January 12, 2010, there was a gigantic earthquake in Haiti. | ||
| At least 100,000 people died as a result of the quake, and the number is suggested actually to be much higher than that. | ||
| Silsby was arrested, attempting to cross the border between Haiti and the Dominican Republic with 33 children, many of them who were not orphans, though they were heading for a makeshift orphanage. | ||
| She was arrested along with nine other missionaries she was working with, but charges against them all were dropped. | ||
| Only she remained in prison, though when she received a trial, the charges were dropped from kidnapping to, quote, arranging irregular travel. | ||
| She was found guilty and released, having served her sentence already while awaiting trial. | ||
| This story is an offshoot Pizzagate narrative. | ||
| When that whole thing was getting going, it was decided by internet sleuths that this is how the Clintons got kids that they would then use to harvest adrenochrome and their blood-drinking rituals in the non-existent basement of Comet Ping-Pong Pizza. | ||
| Where we can assume there were pyramids of Beth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is quite literally just bringing back up Pizzagate shit. | ||
| And again, that's the same thing with the walnut sauce. | ||
| That was another Pizzagate thing. | ||
| It was something that the internet sleuths decided sounded weird in Podesta's emails, so they decided it must be code for pedophilia. | ||
| This behavior is what you'd expect from Alex at this point. | ||
| He's trying to run a campaign against Hillary again. | ||
| Like I said, in the last time, that involved a lot of Pizzagate shit. | ||
| He doesn't even realize how much of the stuff he thinks has to do with her. | ||
| It came from Reddit and 4chan bullshit. | ||
| From that whole Pizzagate thing. | ||
| Which is something he claims he never covered. | ||
| But here he is. | ||
| We're going on about walnut sauce and kidnapping kids out of Haiti. | ||
| This is all Pizzagate. | ||
| That's no good. | ||
| We can't go into reruns. | ||
| This is lame. | ||
| This is lame. | ||
| I don't want to watch Parks and Rec all over again, Dan. | ||
| It's time for something new. | ||
| Let's move on to the good place. | ||
| We can't be doing this forever. | ||
| But I think it's very interesting because he doesn't have good minds around him now. | ||
| And not to say that the minds he had around him before were good in a broad sense. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But they were creative. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| In the last election cycle, he had a brain trust of some real, real fucked up people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, he was working on all cylinders with Steve Pachenik, Larry Nichols, Roger Stone. | ||
| You know, he had a lot of people who were real... | ||
| You've got some of the big names in bullshit lying and making up conspiracies that really stick with you. | ||
| You know, you've got to give him some credit for having some conspiracy theories that penetrate into the larger consciousness. | ||
| And I don't think he has as good of people around him now, or as competent people around him now, and so what do you do? | ||
| Well, what worked last time? | ||
| Just sort of revert back as best you can. | ||
| Roger's going to prison. | ||
| He's not going to have him this time. | ||
| He's got to put some money in Roger's commissary account that he can smuggle some notes out on some ideas to smear people. | ||
| Go visit him and write it down in crayon. | ||
| But the Raptors. | ||
| That'll be great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, that'd be amazing. | |
| God, I want that to happen. | ||
| I hope he gets 50 years just so 10 years from now he can fuck with Gary Cassidy. | ||
| Start a cult. | ||
| So, Alex, again, he teases that Roger has an announcement. | ||
| So I said I've got a message from Roger Stone to the world. | ||
| Bite me. | ||
| If, I would say, when he's convicted by that kangaroo jury, maybe I'm wrong. | ||
| Maybe God's going to intervene. | ||
| But pray for Roger. | ||
| And I'll do that. | ||
| The jury could come out at any moment, but I'm going to do that at the start of the next hour now. | ||
| Then I'm going to open the phones up. | ||
| So he teases it again, and you kind of get a sense of what could be the delay. | ||
| He says that Roger said to make this announcement after the verdict. | ||
| So that could be why you push back. | ||
| But Alex does not wait. | ||
| He doesn't wait until after the verdict, because when he comes back, this is about three and a half hours into the show, he just goes ahead and makes the announcement. | ||
| I have a message for the world from Roger Stone. | ||
| And that message is, your basic liberties, your basic freedoms, and due process is under attack. | ||
| And if Roger Stone can be found guilty on any of the six counts against him by this kangaroo court and this Obama-appointed tyrant, So now, what you have there is editorializing. | ||
| That isn't Roger's message, but Alex has set it up as Roger's message. | ||
| Roger's message is that this is a kangaroo court, it's an Obama-stacked jury. | ||
| So now, those sorts of messages appear to be coming from Roger. | ||
| Whatever Roger may or may not have told him, that's what Alex is presenting. | ||
| Alex's narratives about the trial are now intermingled with the presentation of Alex's message, or Roger's message through Alex. | ||
| So, Alex wants all of it to be Roger's message, whereas in theory, this is maybe what Roger told him. | ||
| So, Roger Stone's message is this. | ||
| He expects to be convicted. | ||
| He said only a miracle can save him now. | ||
| That's his exact words to me last night. | ||
| And this morning. | ||
| And he said to me, Alex, barring a miracle, I appeal to God and I appeal to your listeners for prayer and I appeal to the president to pardon me because to do so would be a action that would show these corrupt courts That they're not going to get away with persecuting | ||
| people for their free speech or for the crime of getting the president elected. | ||
| If we don't do that, it will embolden their criminal activity. | ||
| The way Alex is delivering this, I don't believe it's an actual message. | ||
| I think it may be some of the things are things Roger told him if he was talking to Roger. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure what I believe about this. | ||
| But if Roger... | ||
| I just know Steve Pachenik was in Korea at the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If Alex did talk to Roger, I would assume he would say, you know, have your audience pray for me. | ||
| You know, I would like it for Trump to pardon me. | ||
| I could see if he did communicate with Roger, that being what he said. | ||
| But all the way that this is being presented, it lends itself to broadening what Roger's message was. | ||
| And that's really bad. | ||
| Because the stuff that Alex is talking about is about his case. | ||
| That last clip, not the one we just played, but the one before it, about this being an Obama-stacked jury kangaroo court, that is discussing the case. | ||
| That breaks Roger's gag order. | ||
| So if Roger said to Alex, I want your audience to pray for me, I appeal for Trump to pardon me, that might not be considered discussing the case. | ||
| But the way Alex is talking about this, and the editorializing it, Takes it into a place where he could fuck Roger over. | ||
| That's why I kind of feel like Roger wouldn't do this. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because he would know that Alex would do this. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| Because you don't know if Alex is going to read your message. | ||
| He's reading it off of his hand like, Roger says, Hi, everybody. | ||
| Thanks, Mom. | ||
| Please pray for me, but I mean, God, can you imagine praying for Roger Stone? | ||
| Oh, anyways. | ||
| Also burned the court down immediately following the verdict. | ||
| I don't know why he wrote that one. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| Anyways. | ||
| It's an unreliable narrator giving us this message, so I don't know what I believe. | ||
| I'm suspicious, let's say. | ||
| So here's the last clip from the 14th, and it's Alex discussing how there's a plan if Roger is convicted. | ||
| Now, there is a press release and an article on newswars.com and infowars.com that has the number to the White House on it. | ||
| And even when he is convicted by this jury, it is vital that everyone share the information graphic posted. | ||
| At InfoWars.com and NewsWars.com with everyone you know on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, by hand, you name it, and that everyone who can in the area of Virginia or Maryland or West Virginia or all over the country travel to D.C. any time for the week after this conviction and encircle the White House with bullhorns demanding President Trump take action. | ||
| So you see like the... | ||
| He's trying to control the narrative of Roger's freedom or whatever. | ||
| And he's using it to funnel it into advertising for InfoWars. | ||
| Like, hey, we have this press release. | ||
| Everybody share it. | ||
| We have a specific infographic that obviously is going to have InfoWars.com on it. | ||
| We have InfoWars branded bullhorns. | ||
| It's going to be a promotional blitz. | ||
| I do see a little bit of that. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| It's still not totally in the realm of over-the-top Alex trying to profit off of Rogers, but it is controlling the space. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| What I hear is his heart's not in it. | ||
| He knows Rogers too guilty. | ||
| And at the same time, he's like... | ||
| We gotta try this whole... | ||
| We gotta do something. | ||
| We gotta try this whole, like, they're railroading him narrative, but I don't think anybody's really gonna buy that. | ||
| It's a tough sell. | ||
| Part of what people liked about Roger Stone is how obviously criminal he was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's part of his appeal. | ||
| Yeah, he even talks about that, how, like, he plays up his villainous aspects because they're fun. | ||
| Everybody's like, well, yeah, I mean, he should probably go to jail. | ||
| We just don't want him to go now, I guess. | ||
| It's a hard case to make that it's like, wow, yeah. | ||
| Should have been in prison long ago. | ||
| Yeah, he probably didn't. | ||
| Yeah, all right. | ||
| All right, you got him. | ||
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Can you imagine just being a regular person praying for Roger? | |
| Lord, we thank you for this meal, and I hope Roger Stone's okay. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| This sneaky, top hat-wearing villain from an old movie. | ||
| Yeah, it seems weird. | ||
| So we jump in on the 15th, and the sound quality in this is atrocious. | ||
| It is Friday, November 15th, 2019. | ||
| I am your host, Alex Jones. | ||
| And as I predicted for weeks, and as I definitively said yesterday, Roger Stone would be found guilty on all counts. | ||
| He faces 50 years, ladies and gentlemen, for thought. | ||
| Crime. | ||
| Maybe the sound isn't obviously different yet, but this first five minutes or so of his show on the 15th is noticeably different. | ||
| And so, yeah, I mean, that's, you know, you're getting it. | ||
| He's going to prison for 50 years. | ||
| Got to make it as severe as possible. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| Great. | ||
| For thought crimes. | ||
| Thought crimes. | ||
| I mean, you know, those thoughts that he had were crimes. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He thought about committing crimes and then he committed them. | ||
| He did them. | ||
| Those are thought crimes. | ||
| Yeah, I guess. | ||
| So Alex now pretends that Roger is going to be on the show later. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, he was completely and totally Railroaded. | ||
| There is a good shot. | ||
| If they don't take him into custody, the hearing is still ongoing right now that he will be on the broadcast today. | ||
| They have let him know that if he does speak out against it, the judge will throw the book at him even harder. | ||
| The title of that clip is Alex Pretends Roger is Going to Be On Later. | ||
| Yeah, fucking right. | ||
| Absurd to imagine. | ||
| At best, he's going to call in after the sentencing. | ||
| Until he gets a number, he is not talking to Alex at all. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because that number goes up by a day every minute he talks to Alex. | ||
| It's conceivable. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex pretends that he is right about the juror's situation. | ||
| But again, it's important because he did that in order to have means a way in to attack the trial whenever Roger is inevitably found guilty. | ||
| There has never been a railroading like this. | ||
| And remember, we exposed that there was a juror. | ||
| It was a high-level Obama official. | ||
| We got the name right. | ||
| And it was on the Mueller probe. | ||
| When we exposed it, they closed the rail for our arrest. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| But the judge removed her off of the... | ||
| Somebody's trying to fix the hissing. | ||
| Jury. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| That's the worst. | ||
| That's the worst. | ||
| It's real weird. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| Yeah, and then Alex is like, we got the name right. | ||
| You didn't get the name right. | ||
| No. | ||
| You did terribly. | ||
| You got the name wrong twice. | ||
| Yeah, impressively wrong. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So the new point now is that if Roger goes to prison, he's going to be murdered in prison like Epstein. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That is the new angle, and Alex expresses that here. | ||
| This is the tyranny, and this is a warm-up for President Trump, and President Trump hasn't gotten Assange out of jail. | ||
| He could, when he told Assange to release the WikiLeaks. | ||
| That's a big black mark on the president. | ||
| And if he doesn't, pardon Roger Stone. | ||
| Well then, I mean, I gotta tell you, no matter how many good things Trump does, doing this to Assange and letting Stone hang out to dry, if he does this, I just don't know what I'm gonna do. | ||
| We need to call the White House right now. | ||
| 202-4... | ||
| 5-6-1-4-1-4 and tell President Trump to pardon him. | ||
| Don't let him get their hands on him. | ||
| They'll put him in solitary confinement. | ||
| God knows he'll do to his food. | ||
| These people mean business and they mean to kill him. | ||
| They mean to kill him. | ||
| They mean to kill him! | ||
| We hear there a first indication of Alex being like, if he doesn't pardon Stone... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's going to be put in solitary confinement. | ||
| I mean, not who cares. | ||
| If they put him in solitary confinement, I'm against that. | ||
| But when I say who cares, I mean, who cares about that stuff? | ||
| Because that's secondary to me. | ||
| Then Alex's point that if Trump doesn't pardon him, I don't know what I'm going to do. | ||
| I don't care about all the good stuff he's doing. | ||
| If he's leaving Assange and Roger Stone out to dry like this, I can't... | ||
| Because I think that what Alex is starting to realize is that he will also be left out to drive. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Along with literally everyone, you stupid fucking morons. | ||
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| We told you this was gonna fucking happen! | ||
| Alex is starting to- Every time! | ||
| He's starting to realize that there is no honor among thieves. | ||
| He's starting to realize that Trump does not give a fuck about these people. | ||
| There is no protection for him. | ||
| He will be tossed aside as easily as these other people are. | ||
| These guys have never read a fucking book. | ||
| That's like all the Lord of the Rings series is about. | ||
| So Alex, now he's saying that Roger's not only facing 50 years in prison, he's facing maybe 100. | ||
| And I'm making a prediction here. | ||
| I've actually looked at the seven charges and the judge, I believe, can twist it. | ||
| She may give him more than 50. Because these monsters want you to know they'll put you in prison if you stand up for America. | ||
| He is a modern thought criminal who has done nothing. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| President Trump told Julian Assange, release the WikiLeaks. | ||
| He did. | ||
| I'm not in a cult. | ||
| I like Trump way more than Hillary, and I think he's done a lot of good things, but I gotta tell you. | ||
| I don't know what I'm gonna do if Trump doesn't pardon the stone. | ||
| His 40-plus-year wingman. | ||
| These guys have dated the same women, whole nine yards. | ||
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| They fixed the hissing! | ||
| Yay! | ||
| If Trump follows his penchant for hanging people out to dry that got him elected, I don't know what I'm going to do. | ||
| I don't know what I'm going to do. | ||
| I think he's facing a moment of like, this is the good chance. | ||
| This is how I can get out of this. | ||
| This is how everything can change. | ||
| I can retain all of my narratives about Trump. | ||
| About how he was doing all these good things. | ||
| I can retain everything. | ||
| He doesn't have to turn on Trump. | ||
| He doesn't really even have to. | ||
| He can just say, like, yeah, you know what? | ||
| Everything that we saw that was good in him was good. | ||
| We have a right to do that. | ||
| Trump is just, you know, he's not strong enough to stand up to the swamp. | ||
| The deep state is too powerful. | ||
| He can retcon a whole bunch of stuff through this. | ||
| It's something that the audience will probably see as acceptable. | ||
| He won't stand up for Julian Assange and Roger Stone. | ||
| I realize that there is a real problem with this. | ||
| I can stop supporting him. | ||
| Or I can pivot. | ||
| Whatever this is, it's a perfect opportunity for him. | ||
| I think he sees it. | ||
| He sees the light. | ||
| The window. | ||
| Well, I mean, just the very obvious verbal pattern he has of saying, I'm not trying to brag, and then he brags. | ||
| If he's saying, I'm not saying I'm in a cult, And then he changes it. | ||
| You're like, oh man, your words get it. | ||
| I don't know if you get it in your head, but your subconscious is like, oh shit, I was in a cult. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| It's the Nigerian email scam all over again! | ||
| Yep, it is. | ||
| Big picture. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Roger did nothing wrong. | ||
| Stone hadn't done a damn thing. | ||
| Except get Trump elected. | ||
| And these monsters. | ||
| Are going to use this as the beta test with their jurisdictions to go after everybody and try to put them in prison. | ||
| Where I live in Travis County. | ||
| Tried to put Rick Perry in jail for no reason. | ||
| put tom delay in jail till he got it out on appeal it's so funny to remember that alex's big documentary endgame literally ends with a shot of alex bullhorning rick perry's house late at night accusing him of being a globalist stooge and all they did was uh try and get him arrested for something they made up his main documentary that he says proves all of his claims leaves the viewer with a shot of him attacking rick perry but now This dude's so spineless. | ||
| This is what we talked about on a recent 2013 episode where Rick Perry was trying to force a Democrat DA out of office by defunding her office if she refused to resign, which is not cool. | ||
| He was indicted for that, but the charges were dropped after he appealed when he was out of office himself. | ||
| That's the case that Alex is talking about. | ||
| That's fucking crazy. | ||
| I believe that was under the fine-just-go-away law. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, um, that's nonsense. | ||
| Um, whatever, like, uh, trying to use those as examples of, like, it's just like this. | ||
| Like, uh, no. | ||
| And wait, you shouldn't like Rick Perry. | ||
| Why do you like him now? | ||
| Yeah, it changes on a daily. | ||
| Due process should be abandoned in this country, Dan. | ||
| And Roger Stone is not getting that due process, and I don't know why I'm mad, but I'm mad about both! | ||
| So, Alex, like I said, I think he's starting to realize that Trump is a disloyal bad actor. | ||
| God, these people are so stupid. | ||
| And President Trump has not stood up to the racketeering and the attack on the press, the independent press. | ||
| He's not stood up to the organized racketeering of big tech coming after even members of Congress and blocking them. | ||
| And I know it feels great to say, oh, Trump's wonderful, and, you know, everything they do against him doesn't stick because it's made up. | ||
| Great. | ||
| What about us? | ||
| What about the president protecting the American people? | ||
| Are they going to come indict me? | ||
| Have another rigged jury? | ||
| And then Trump just sits there and plays golf and talks about how he's a stable genius? | ||
| You remember what happened that night? | ||
| We ought to find the clip. | ||
| 2 a.m. when Trump came out. | ||
| And Hillary wouldn't even concede. | ||
| She was drunk, collapsed. | ||
| I looked at Roger Live on air and I said, you get ready. | ||
| They're coming after us. | ||
| He goes, we'll have Trump. | ||
| We'll have the president. | ||
| I said, buddy, you better get ready. | ||
| They're going to put us in prison or kill us. | ||
| On TV, I told him. | ||
| The next day, I talked to that parking lot. | ||
| I got him by the arm and I said, buddy, guard yourself for true. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| We're in attack formation. | ||
| Guard yourself for true. | ||
| Another Dune thing. | ||
| I don't know what that music is, but they play it a bunch during this episode. | ||
| And all I can make out from the lyrics is you keep coming back for more, which also seems almost thematic. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| The people that work for him still don't know how to run his soundboard. | ||
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| Still! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And somebody is choosing the music. | ||
| They play it like six times. | ||
| Somebody's choosing the music who's clearly fucking with him from time to time. | ||
| We've seen plenty of evidence of them playing very on-the-nose tracks. | ||
| Well, they played that Depeche Mode song like you had something to hide while he was introducing the... | ||
| That's what I was listening to! | ||
| Yeah, the Roger announcement. | ||
| I'm sitting there going like, do you know? | ||
| Yeah, it seems like there's weird... | ||
| But how much of that is over analysis? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But this song is glaring. | ||
| It plays over and over again. | ||
| In and out of breaks. | ||
| To the point where it's very noticeable. | ||
| I don't think I've ever heard an episode where he's played something more than twice. | ||
| Sometimes he's like, I want to hear that again. | ||
| That'll happen every now and again. | ||
| But that seems so... | ||
| Yeah, but I could also totally see one of those people accidentally deleting the Spotify playlist and then they just play it over. | ||
| That's how stupid and incompetent these guys are so far. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| That's why it's hard to make a conclusion. | ||
| But it's notable in the fact that it keeps happening. | ||
| So Alex is mad because Trump is tweeting, but he doesn't want tweets. | ||
| Roger Stone got Trump elected. | ||
| The listeners of this show got Trump elected. | ||
| Matt Drudge got Trump elected. | ||
| The truth. | ||
| Got Trump elected. | ||
| And I love Trump. | ||
| You guys were doing great. | ||
| But I'm here to tell you, like I said on yesterday's show, I said, we don't need tweets from President Trump about this. | ||
| We need action. | ||
| We don't need a couple tweets from President Trump saying this is a miscarriage of justice and then nothing. | ||
| We need action. | ||
| Action. | ||
| Now. | ||
| So yeah, I mean, he's sick of the bullshit that Trump's feeding him, and he's realizing, I'm not safe. | ||
| None of our allies in this propaganda game that we've been running for the explicit purpose of defending Trump, none of us matter. | ||
| None of us matter. | ||
| No one's going to be like, hey, I've spent the last three, four years of my fucking life going out of my way to carry water for this fucking asshole. | ||
| Abandoning... | ||
| Everything that I knew except white supremacy. | ||
| I was allowing Mike Cernovich on my show. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| On purpose! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy, and now there isn't anything that you get for it. | ||
| You will be sacrificed. | ||
| If it is necessary. | ||
| I don't know what it's like to have a kid, but that moment I imagine of you having told this child over and over and over again the same thing and them never learning and then eventually them coming up to you and being like, you know, I realize that this guy really doesn't like me and isn't paying attention to me. | ||
| And thinking that that's something that they're coming to on their own when you're like, I've been screaming that at you for four years, you idiot! | ||
| So at this point, Roger actually hasn't been convicted yet. | ||
| But Alex is acting as if he has. | ||
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| This is still like at the jury deliberation, but it's like, ah, we all kind of know. | ||
| We all know he did it. | ||
| Which is interesting because if I hadn't told you that, you would have thought that he got convicted before the show. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| But he didn't. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So Alex talks now about the last time that he talked to Trump. | ||
| You need to pardon him. | ||
| You pardoned Arpaio. | ||
| We got that to you. | ||
| Trump didn't even know about it when we got it to him. | ||
| You heard Arpaio come on and say, no, Rotterdam and Alex Jones got to Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Last time I got to talk to Trump was like a year and a half ago. | ||
| And I'm like, listen, you know they're putting the sheriff in prison. | ||
| What? | ||
| I didn't hear that. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| You had a trial? | ||
| No, no, the judge is doing it. | ||
| Well, the judge can't do that. | ||
| Yes, Mr. President. | ||
| We need you to... | ||
| Pardon him. | ||
| They're coming after him because he released documents showing you were being spied on. | ||
| They got from the DEA. | ||
| We released the original NSA documents. | ||
| Wait, wait, how do you know about that? | ||
| How do I know about it? | ||
| I was telling you about it a year ago. | ||
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | |
| I'm like, listen, I don't need you to tell me how great I am. | ||
| They take you out. | ||
| They're going to get me next. | ||
| I need you to go after them. | ||
| A couple things about that last clip. | ||
| One, if that retelling of events is true, which I'm almost certain it's not, then if I were Trump, I wouldn't talk to Alex again either. | ||
| That retelling is clearly an instance of Alex lying to the president in order to get a racist authoritarian pardon for crimes he was absolutely guilty of. | ||
| Two, the documents Alex had were from Dennis Montgomery. | ||
| We did an entire episode about that bullshit titled The Dennis Montgomery Investigation. | ||
| You can go and listen to that if you want to understand it fully. | ||
| None of these documents were real, none of them proved Trump was being spied on, and none of them were from the DEA. | ||
| Why would the Drug Enforcement Agency be involved in any of this? | ||
| That should be a good dead giveaway that Alex is just kind of making shit up. | ||
| Three, the reason that Arpaio was going to prison was contempt of court. | ||
| That is true, but that doesn't really get to the heart of the matter. | ||
| Arpaio had been the subject of a very thorough investigation, and it was found that his police department in Maricopa County operated in ways that violated citizens'rights. | ||
| His department had a flagrant pattern of racial profiling that, quote, reached the highest levels of the agency. | ||
| And it was so severe that the department was stripped of its ability to legally identify and detain suspected undocumented immigrants. | ||
| That's how bad their patterns were Again, I'm against shorter prison sentences. | ||
| Arpaio's the only person that I can think of right off the top of my head that I want to rot in jail for the rest of his life. | ||
| He should rot in jail for the rest of his life. | ||
| Due to many lawsuits involving his inhuman treatment of detainees, the court told Arpaio that changes had to be made to his department. | ||
| Arpaio refused to do what the court said he had to do. | ||
| He was given many warnings. | ||
| Then in January 2015, years after he had every reason to understand that the way he did business violated civil rights, he was held in contempt of court. | ||
| The case went on until July 2017, at which point he was found guilty of criminal contempt. | ||
| But that charge is not just some minor charge. | ||
| That guilty charge is the front-facing mask that's covering up years of racist and abusive police practices that Arpaio refused to change. | ||
| I know it goes without saying, but the contempt of court charge means nothing to Alex. | ||
| The reason Arpaio got a pardon from Trump, the reason that Alex fought so hard to protect him, was the racist, abusive policing that characterized his career. | ||
| When they defend Arpaio, that's what they're defending. | ||
| Not some kind of bullshit, a judge can't send you to jail nonsense. | ||
| You don't need a jury to hold someone in contempt of court, because a jury already decided the case that contempt is based on. | ||
| Alex knows this. | ||
| He just doesn't care because he needs to make his white identity beliefs look like a defensive rule of law in order to make it marketable to a larger audience. | ||
| That's all that's going on here. | ||
| So fuck this. | ||
| Fuck this nonsense. | ||
| Another bad example for him to tie to Roger. | ||
| So now we get to the point where Alex announces Roger has been convicted. | ||
| I was sitting here at about 10 a.m. an hour before we went live. | ||
| I had my baseball cap sitting next to me. | ||
| And it says 1776 on it. | ||
| Yes, it's an Infowars store. | ||
| Nice designer hat. | ||
| Made in 1776. | ||
| 1776 is on the front. | ||
| It's a brand I came out with about seven years ago. | ||
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| Little hat I designed. | ||
| The Revolutionary War. | ||
| I just wear it on air. | ||
| I just wear it when I'm out. | ||
| And I thought, when they convict Stone today, probably when I'm on air, I'm going to wear that 1776 hat. | ||
| And right before I went live, I said, hey, I left it in my bathroom. | ||
| You'll get my 1776 hat. | ||
| And right as they walked in and handed it to me, they go, Roger Stone convicted. | ||
| Now, that's not some psychic event. | ||
| That's like watching somebody in a bullfight get run over by the bull and the bull's horn go right through the matador's heart and blood spray everywhere. | ||
| That dude's going to die. | ||
| So that seems like a plug for his hats. | ||
| That was more hat-centric than Roger Stone News-centric. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was more about the hat and the long journey it took to get to the hat. | ||
| It took us a while to get there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Followed by... | ||
| And see, I'm not psychic. | ||
| I mean, he was obviously gonna get fucked. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think we all knew that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But not the getting fucked. | ||
| No. | ||
| Being found guilty. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The thing that I think is going on here is that Alex recognizes that... | ||
| Almost everybody who hears the news Roger Stone has been found guilty is immediately going to go to Infowars. | ||
| Immediately! | ||
| They're going to be like, Alex is going to freak out. | ||
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This is going to be amazing. | |
| I heard from people who listen to our show that's like, I've never listened to his show live. | ||
| I had to go immediately to watch this. | ||
| I think he probably got a gigantic boost in audience. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| And so why not use that as an opportunity to be like, so these great hats. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I decided I was going to wear this when Roger was found guilty in honor of the Revolutionary War. | ||
| They're great hats. | ||
| Well made. | ||
| Zell them. | ||
| 1999. | ||
| 1776. | ||
| You get a discount. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So Alex now has a situation where all eyes are on his show. | ||
| He's probably... | ||
| He's probably at least somewhat aware of that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's hard to tell how much exactly. | ||
| He considered self-immolating. | ||
| He knew that enough people were watching that it could have really done some good. | ||
| I don't think that's the case. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's already said that Roger might be on. | ||
| But he knows that that's not true. | ||
| No chance. | ||
| But he does have some guests. | ||
| We had Paul Watson coming on to talk about big victories in Europe, huge awakenings against the globalists. | ||
| Very exciting things. | ||
| He just traveled to the big National Sovereignty Day of Poland, which has been called White Supremist. | ||
| Nations even existing is evil now. | ||
| We're going to get to that next segment, but I wanted him to respond to this, and I'll open the phones up at the start of the next hour. | ||
| Then Larry Nichols, who is the consummate Clinton insider, he's got big intel on Adam Schiff and Ed Buck and the satanic rituals that went on there. | ||
| Holy shit, Larry Nichols is back. | ||
| Larry Nichols is on the show? | ||
| Larry Nichols is back. | ||
| He's had cancer for 45 years now. | ||
| He has been dying for 45 years. | ||
| Jordan, I gotta tell you, the Clintons are evil. | ||
| I get that they're evil, but I think you're hamming up this whole dying thing. | ||
| I don't know what the case is with that. | ||
| I don't want to sit here and mock what may or may not be legitimate illness. | ||
| I don't know what the deal is with that. | ||
| I think there's so many other things you can talk about with Larry. | ||
| That's so far past what I'm even interested in. | ||
| But it is interesting. | ||
| He's back. | ||
| I mean, just the day before on the show, he started reporting on bullshit True Pundit articles that are based on Larry's reportage. | ||
| So it makes sense. | ||
| Let's get Larry back in here. | ||
| So does Larry reach out, or did somebody from True Pundit... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I got some bullshit. | ||
| I gotta check with Larry. | ||
| Or is Larry, like, sending out texts from time to time? | ||
| I know exactly how this works. | ||
| And we'll get to it once Larry comes up. | ||
| But it's much less confusing than you might think. | ||
| So, Alex, like I said, I get the sense that Alex recognizes that there's more people listening. | ||
| Because instead of covering Roger's shit in detail, here's what he does. | ||
| Going into 2020, there's so much happening. | ||
| The only way we're here is your word of mouth getting around the sensors, which is amazing, and buying products. | ||
| So I was going to, before Paul ever came on, talk about DNA Force Plus. | ||
| It's back in stock with the CoQ10 and the PQQ and more. | ||
| And so I pulled a bunch of the research on. | ||
| I was going to do a whole segment on it. | ||
| It's our flagship product that I never really talk about properly. | ||
| And now this all happens, so I'm not going to have time to get to it now. | ||
| But here's the folder of research of just this morning that I printed off. | ||
| Mainline science. | ||
| Nobel Prizes about CoQ10 and PQQ. | ||
| Notice again, he's using the trope of the folder full of proof. | ||
| I got a binder full of women, that's for sure. | ||
| This is a long clip, but I wanted to play this just so you can hear the sort of mundane banality of it. | ||
| This is the same segment of his show when he announced Roger got found guilty. | ||
| It regrows mitochondria in the brain cells that nothing else can do. | ||
| So your damaged brain cells, 50% of people have massive damage in the mitochondria and the brain cells. | ||
| I mean, Alzheimer's, everything. | ||
| They will not tell you about this, though. | ||
| And it's all here. | ||
| So 50% off. | ||
| It's the one thing everybody should give themselves. | ||
| Anybody above 40 should be on it. | ||
| But young people should take it as well because it has the PQQ, the CoQ10, and then it's got all of the other things known as the fountain of youth by the Japanese, the reishi mushroom. | ||
| The Stragalus Root. | ||
| Stragalus. | ||
| Other documented systems that all work together in synergy. | ||
| Do that. | ||
| And you get little bitty bottles of PQQ or CoQ10 for $40, $50, $60 that aren't even as strong or aren't from an organic source like these are. | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm thinking. | ||
| Similar formulas are sold for $300, $400 at medical clinics, not as prescription by the doctors. | ||
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So is he going to jail then? | |
| Because people, they want to mark these up four, five, six, seven times. | ||
| How long does the jury deliberate for? | ||
| People aren't going to buy that at a Whole Foods. | ||
| But if a doctor does it, they'll get it from them. | ||
| Because the stuff does cost so much. | ||
| You're dealing with $50, $60 a product in something. | ||
| Well, you've got to sell it for $200, $300 for all your marketing and your legal and your bills. | ||
| Your development and manufacturing. | ||
| I signed a big two-year contract on this to get even more of it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| We're still going. | ||
| 50 bucks a bottle. | ||
| We're paying 30-something bucks a bottle. | ||
| And so you can get it for 70-something dollars discounted right now. | ||
| Nobody gives you this product at this quality for that price. | ||
| $74.98 right now. | ||
| It's our most expensive product. | ||
| And it's absolutely amazing. | ||
| I take one pill every night when you go to bed. | ||
| It's the best way to do it. | ||
| And if you're really older and got issues, take a lot of it and see what happens. | ||
| What? | ||
| See what happens. | ||
| What? | ||
| It's documented to create new mitochondria. | ||
| It makes the telomeres last longer. | ||
| It doesn't grow and makes them last longer. | ||
| Half full, half empty. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| The carburetor makes the gas go longer. | ||
| It doesn't make the gas tank bigger. | ||
| It just makes the gas go further, but it's the same thing. | ||
| So DNA Force Plus, get it today and fund the Infowar. | ||
| A total 360 win. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| That was a long clip. | ||
| Yeah, that was three minutes of his show he dedicated to talking about this DNA force in an infomercial way in the time when he would be most likely to have the most eyes on his show. | ||
| If I were looking at this cynically, I would say that's an intentional decision. | ||
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No. | |
| laughter laughter He just got the news that Roger's going to prison. | ||
| He got found guilty. | ||
| I mean, we say going to prison. | ||
| I understand that he still has a chance of an appeal. | ||
| You know, the process isn't finished and all that. | ||
| I think we're speaking a little bit presumptuously, but all signs appear that he's probably going to prison. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex's first response is to talk about this great hat he decided to wear whenever Roger... | ||
| It's a really good hat. | ||
| Then he does a three-minute infomercial for DNA Force. | ||
| It's a really good force. | ||
| It's fucking weird. | ||
| And also, he's got a tie-in with Disney+. | ||
| It's a whole cool thing, but he's not going to announce that just yet. | ||
| Strategically, it seems like, hey, we have the audience that we are unable to capture in any other way. | ||
| Let's see if we can move some of this stuff. | ||
| Somebody's in his ear with like a, hey, we're at twice the number of normal listeners. | ||
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Plug. | |
| Plug. | ||
| Get it. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like that. | ||
| So now he gets Paul Joseph Watson in, who you mentioned went to that independence march in Poland. | ||
| Right, right, right, which we have talked about in the context of Stefan Molyneux, I believe. | ||
| Right, but it's interesting because the misconception, I suppose, around that, and granted, I haven't looked into the dynamics of this year's march, but as it related to Stefan, he was going to whitewash that because the year prior... | ||
| There had been a bunch of people with Nazi signs and what have you. | ||
| And that was outlawed. | ||
| So he went to the sanitized version in order to create the appearance that all the reporting about the year prior's march was all bullshit and the left being out of control. | ||
| I don't know what this year's was. | ||
| I don't know what Paul's doing there. | ||
| If he wants to just go to a Polish Independence Day parade, I don't care. | ||
| But I do see it as signaling. | ||
| Because of Stefan going and making a big deal of endorsing white nationalism after going to Poland, it has become a bit of a thing in this community. | ||
| So I see that as kind of a tip of the hat. | ||
| There's no way that you could... | ||
| And I'm not saying that Paul... | ||
| I'm not saying that nobody could want to just go to the Polish National Independence Day march. | ||
| That could probably be fun. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's very cool. | ||
| I've never even been to Poland. | ||
| I'd love to see all of those things. | ||
| And anytime you're at a national parade, that's very cool. | ||
| But Paul Joseph Watson does not just go to the Polish. | ||
| I mean, he lives in England. | ||
| He does not just go to the fucking parade. | ||
| I agree with you, but I also slightly disagree. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I would say going, not a big deal. | ||
| Talking about it and being like, hey, everybody says it's a racist parade. | ||
| That's kind of like, okay, you're doing that on purpose. | ||
| That part's 100% on purpose. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't really care, though. | ||
| And again, I should stress, I have not kept up a ton. | ||
| I don't know exactly what's going on now, what the dynamics are, so I'm probably not in the best place to speak about it. | ||
| But Paul is on, and he does not seem very optimistic about Roger's prospects. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
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Will we see the pardon? | |
| Will we see Trump actually follow through on something that he's said? | ||
| This is going to antagonize the base if he doesn't, but, you know, he's let us down before. | ||
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Hopefully he can step up to the plate now. | |
| Well, there's also this whole cult out there saying we shouldn't criticize Trump and demand what he said he would do. | ||
| You were in that cult! | ||
| We're undermining Trump. | ||
| No, we're not. | ||
| We got Trump elected, damn it! | ||
| And I'm not going to sit here and see my innocent friends sent to a damn prison by these criminals! | ||
| I mean, I'm getting pissed, man. | ||
| I want him pardoned now! | ||
| He didn't do anything! | ||
| That song is back. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Paul does not seem like he has any faith that Trump is going to do anything, and Alex is furious. | ||
| No. | ||
| Man, you guys... | ||
| Paul didn't get duped. | ||
| Paul had to know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Paul had to know that... | ||
| I think Paul knows that Alex would abandon him, too. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I think Paul's the only one here who's like... | ||
| I know what the score is. | ||
| I'm choosing from a place where I know what I'm doing. | ||
| He's tried to protect his brand a little bit. | ||
| He's done videos that have come out where he talks about, I'm not into conspiracy theories. | ||
| He's tried to present himself as being above this stuff. | ||
| And to an extent, he's been far more willing to criticize Trump than Alex in the past. | ||
| He's still on Facebook and Twitter or whatever. | ||
| He has a little bit more of a... | ||
| A position to say, like, come on, Alex, than anybody else around. | ||
| But I still think... | ||
| It's weird to say he didn't get duped, because he probably did somewhat, but just not nearly as bad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And, well, anybody who voted for Trump got duped, unless they're a billionaire. | ||
| He kept... | ||
| Well, he can't vote. | ||
| He's in London. | ||
| No, I just mean on a general basis. | ||
| I'm not saying that he... | ||
| I would look at it as somebody who diversified their portfolio as opposed to someone who was all in on one stock. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| I think he put a little bit of some of his stakes elsewhere. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's a good way of putting it. | ||
| And because he's so singularly focused on culture war nonsense, it doesn't matter too much about Trump for him. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It was all of the insanity of the left. | ||
| And all that, it still plays, even if he turns on track. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| It's more about abortion and shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or even far more artificial issues. | ||
| Someone yelling on a campus. | ||
| The war on Christmas begins earlier every year. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has seen some stuff during the breaks, apparently, of people on MSNBC making jokes about how... | ||
| Roger has a tattoo of Nixon, so Nixon's finally going to prison. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Look, that's on Roger. | ||
| That's on Roger. | ||
| That's his fault. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is furious. | ||
| No, you have to take those. | ||
| You have to take those. | ||
| So the answer is 1776 in information warfare and getting aggressive before things really commence in physical 1776. | ||
| Paul Watson brought it up from Summit.News. | ||
| Here it is, GatewayPundit.com. | ||
| Here's the video. | ||
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...set up this impeachment inquiry as we look live inside the hearing, unless Chris Wallace has any more tattoo news. | |
| Let me just say, somebody sent me a picture. | ||
| If you Google it, you'll be able to see it. | ||
| As Judge Starr said, it's a very good likeness of Richard Nixon that is there right in the center of Roger Stone's back. | ||
| We'll try to get that. | ||
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Okay, so in any case, moving forward. | |
| But it is not, I'm not a crook. | ||
| It's not that one. | ||
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No, it's not that one. | |
| Raised fingers like this. | ||
| Oh, he is mad. | ||
| You mad, Alex? | ||
| Look! | ||
| Hey, one of your best friends is going to jail. | ||
| I get not wanting other people to laugh at it. | ||
| It's on him, though. | ||
| I understand, but your only real leg to stand on is I'm mad they're making fun of him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And that's not a great political stance. | ||
| Anyway, so on the last episode of Alex's show, the November 14th... | ||
| He did that real muddy reading of Roger's message that he wanted him to deliver. | ||
| Now, the verdict has happened. | ||
| Alex gets a text, allegedly, from Roger's lawyer. | ||
| And this is one of the more ironic clips that I've ever heard. | ||
| Let me just show people the type of stuff I've got. | ||
| I'm going to cover up the phone number and the name on this. | ||
| But this is the type of stuff that I get. | ||
| I'm just not going to even show it on air. | ||
| Your reporting almost got Roger taken into custody immediately upon the verdicts. | ||
| The government cited you and argued for immediate imprisonment. | ||
| Please be cautious about your comments concerning private communications. | ||
| This is one of the lawyers, not a member of the press. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| They intimidate everybody. | ||
| Say don't name the whistleblower. | ||
| Don't say when they're putting Obama officials on the jury whose husband works at the Mueller probe. | ||
| Of course you're not supposed to do that. | ||
| That's not jury tampering. | ||
| The press has a right to go. | ||
| This is outrageous. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| So what's going on here is that the way that Alex behaved on the November 14th show could be argued to indicate that Roger had broken his gag order through Alex. | ||
| So that is what the prosecution was saying in terms of holding him right after the verdict, which the judge didn't decide to go along with, but did continue his gag order until sentencing, which makes sense. | ||
| But what I find amazing about that is that this lawyer is contacting Alex, apparently, who knows if he's making this up. | ||
| I don't know if he's making it up because the phrasing of it is so, like, what someone would say. | ||
| But the guy is telling him, be careful about what you say about private communications. | ||
| And then Alex is repeating this private communication. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| See, now, I think I buy it just because of that line, actually. | ||
| Just because the line is not... | ||
| Hey, shut the fuck up! | ||
| You gotta be quiet about this! | ||
| There's too many powerful people looking. | ||
| It doesn't work well enough for what Alex's narrative is. | ||
| Please, please don't reveal too much information. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, what a fucking idiot. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And the fun thing about that, though, is that this is him not being able to understand in real time. | ||
| Like, that's really interesting. | ||
| If that is genuine... | ||
| Then he's even turning a genuine, ostensible ally's words into the conspiracy theory reality, as opposed to Roger Stone's lawyer being like, hey, be nice to your friend. | ||
| You don't want him to go to jail right away. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He's turning that into a conspiracy theory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So at this point, Paul is offended that Roger is going to get 50 years in prison for this. | ||
| And then Alex starts yelling. | ||
| The other thing I'm reading, Alex, is that normally people would get about six months prison time for this, but Roger Stone faces up to 50 years, which is basically a death sentence. | ||
| Stay there. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson just came back from Europe where the awakening is accelerating, and I predict this attempt to intimidate the American people will backfire. | ||
| We'll see what this country's made of. | ||
| As for me, full speed ahead, no surrender, victory or death. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So the most serious charge that Roger was convicted of is witness tampering, which is the result of him trying to threaten and intimidate Randy Credico into pleading the fifth. | ||
| Generally speaking, people don't tamper with witnesses unless they know they're guilty and looking for a way to subvert justice. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| So I think it's appropriate for courts to take it pretty seriously. | ||
| I tell, whenever I tamper with witnesses, I'm like, tell them I am guilty. | ||
| Ha ha ha! | ||
| That'll trick them. | ||
| It is true that sometimes people only get six months in prison for witness tampering. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| A lot of it has to do with the context of the underlying crime. | ||
| For instance, Ted Clout was a GOP member of the South Dakota House of Representatives. | ||
| In 2007, he was arrested for sexually abusing his foster daughters, among other charges. | ||
| He ended up getting a pretty steep sentence, but in addition, he got 10 years added for attempting to tamper with witness testimony. | ||
| That's a super serious offense, so tampering with witnesses in that case is a huge deal. | ||
| In contrast, there was a case in 2015 where a husband and wife got a six-month sentence for witness tampering, but it was surrounding a drug arrest. | ||
| Whereas the tampering was still serious and needs a consequence, it was not nearly as serious as a former state representative abusing foster children. | ||
| So the court deals with the witness tampering Roger's case falls on the more serious side, seeing he was trying to subvert a federal investigation. | ||
| Alex can make all the arguments he wants about how Roger did nothing wrong and all that, but if that really were the case, I don't think he would be trying so hard to get Credico to stay silent. | ||
| Roger did that for a reason, and the only plausible explanation that comes to mind is that he felt that Randy Credico talking would be bad for him. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| The six-month thing, yeah, I mean, it's technically fair, but that is also just, it's intentionally obtuse about the way these charges are added. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, whatever. | ||
| And that's the most serious one. | ||
| That's the one that carries a possibility of 20 years, as I understand. | ||
| But again, he's not going to get all that time. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| You know, it's cliche to point this out, but... | ||
| Man, you can fucking steal an election and you're only going to wind up getting a few years in America? | ||
| You know, stealing an election is such a vague term. | ||
| There's a lot of, you know, whatever. | ||
| Anyway, they go to break there. | ||
| Alex screaming freedom or death or whatever. | ||
| They come back from break and Alex is on the phone. | ||
| So Paul Joseph Watson tries to cover and come in, you know, and do some stuff. | ||
| But then Alex jumps in. | ||
| And tries to reset while Paul is trying to reset himself. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| He just jumps in and he's like, shut the fuck up, Paul. | ||
| I got something to say. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| He's trying to reset so he could throw it to Paul, even though Paul is already talking. | ||
| These guys are wild. | ||
| This is very strange. | ||
| We are live and we're talking about what happened in Poland while Alex Jones makes a very important phone call. | ||
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We're going to get back into that. | |
| Breaking Roger Stone news here in a second. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's absolutely right, Paul. | ||
| I am literally talking to folks right now. | ||
| I can't say who. | ||
| There's just tyranny at levels I've never even heard of before. | ||
| And I'm just going to leave it at that. | ||
| I've got some reporters I've got to talk to real quick. | ||
| And then I'll be right back on with huge news for everybody. | ||
| Infowars.com forward slash show. | ||
| Roger Port, top link to us. | ||
| Very thankful for that. | ||
| Roger Stone, giant show trial, came to an end. | ||
| Jury, 50 years. | ||
| It's what he's facing. | ||
| All seven counts. | ||
| Totally rigged. | ||
| And so I'll be back with you in a few minutes. | ||
| But good news is happening. | ||
| There's a global awakening. | ||
| They're trying to intimidate us. | ||
| Paul just got back from Eastern and Central Europe. | ||
| He can give you a big report. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson, Summit.News. | ||
| I'm Alex Jones. | ||
| Back in about four minutes. | ||
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Yeah, so Paul had a massive election recently. | |
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You can hear almost even a little laugh from Paul. | ||
| Yeah, he was like, all right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that this is indicating, like, that behavior also runs in line with me thinking that he's becoming aware that he has a big audience right now. | ||
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| He said that Drudge is top-linked to us. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| He comes in because he's like, okay, people are tuning in expecting to see Alex. | ||
| Paul is coming in from commercial. | ||
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| Is that going to confuse people? | ||
| I got to come in. | ||
| Establish my presence. | ||
| I'll be back in a few. | ||
| Here's Paul Joseph Watson at Summit.News going to tell you all about these European problems. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So Paul gets to talking about violence around Europe by these migrants. | ||
| And I don't really care. | ||
| It's all sort of the same stuff he always prattles on about. | ||
| Yeah, refugees show up. | ||
| But I think that I'm going to play a tiny clip here because I think it's really interesting. | ||
| He's citing a professor here who's talking about violence in Sweden, right? | ||
| Listen to the way he cites this professor, because I think it's very strange to hear this on Infowars. | ||
| The Swedish state itself is in jeopardy. | ||
| He said the state's monopoly on violence, the actual token of a sovereign government, has been hollowed out bit by bit. | ||
| So wait, hold on. | ||
| The monopoly on violence is the token of a sovereign state? | ||
| Because I thought that Alex hates the idea of the monopoly of violence being in the hands of the state. | ||
| I thought that he thinks that that's a sign of tyranny. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| I'm going to need... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The larger context of this is that... | ||
| There are people committing crimes in Sweden to the extent that these monopoly on the ability to exert... | ||
| I mean, not necessarily migrant people committing crimes or whatever. | ||
| The narrative is here. | ||
| But Alex is strongly opposed to a power monopoly being in the hands of the state. | ||
| That is something he talks about all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He talks about that being the enemy of sovereignty, as opposed to Paul, who is saying that it is a bedrock of sovereignty. | ||
| That doesn't even make sense. | ||
| That's counter to the stated editorial position of Infowars, but that doesn't make any sense for him to say. | ||
| Well, he does, because he wants to make you more scared of migrants. | ||
| No, I mean, I get that, but that's just... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He wrote that down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's terrible. | ||
| Well, because it's something that evokes an image of these migrants overwhelming the police and taking out the state. | ||
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| Whereas the framing of it is, you're right, 100% counter to what Infowars believes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Well, I mean, essentially the context is all of these hordes of non-Swedens Swedes are coming in and taking over Sweden. | ||
| So he's really couching it as a nationalistic... | ||
| White people are being taken over by black people, and white people need to have control over all the force. | ||
| As relates to white populations, there should be no power monopoly of the state. | ||
| As to non-white populations, the state must have a monopoly of power. | ||
| Yes, so long as the state is white people. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That seems to be what... | ||
| There's where the confusion seems to be. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, Alex comes back, and he seems like he's really mad that Trump isn't helping. | ||
| And a lot of folks that are supporters of Trump, and you're in the arena, you're out there, but you're not in the arena like I am. | ||
| Or Matt Drudge is. | ||
| Or others. | ||
| Who I guarantee you have been harassed. | ||
| I don't even need to talk to Drudge to tell you they've harassed the hell out of him and everybody else. | ||
| And Trump doesn't do anything about it. | ||
| Well, he has all the damn power and is in the right to do it. | ||
| And so here's the deal. | ||
| I love Trump a lot, but it's like, my back's broken, I'm being eaten alive in a pit, I can't get out, and Trump's up there at the top of the pit, not getting me out. | ||
| So he won't do anything. | ||
| My back is broken, I'm in a pit, I'm dying, Trump has all the power in the world to solve this problem, and he won't do it. | ||
| He's starting to get real pissed off. | ||
| You can see these things. | ||
| So, Alex, you know, sorry, Roger is found guilty. | ||
| And these are the sort of stories that Alex would spend days on in the past. | ||
| But just now, there's so much news. | ||
| And we bring up such huge news here all the time that it all just kind of gets lost in its intensity. | ||
| It's like a log jam got broken up and just thousands of huge stories are coming down the pike here. | ||
| Used to, 20 years ago, we'd take one story and dissect it for months. | ||
| I mean, now it's hundreds of stories a day. | ||
| The story that's confirmed of what went on in court today should terrify everyone in America and the world that if we don't get control of our government and our judiciary and our legislative very quickly, we are going the way that all other nations go when they end up declining and falling. | ||
| So, this isn't about Roger. | ||
| This is the decline of civilization. | ||
| I don't think I like his strategy here. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think he's going about it backwards. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I think what he's trying to do is capitalize on all the larger number of viewers here by increasing his ads and all of that shit, when that's not really going to do it. | ||
| What he should be doing is taking this time, now that all these people are watching again, to really fucking hammer, like, crush this shit. | ||
| Give the best free Roger Stone performance that anyone has ever given. | ||
| And he should turn on Trump. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| This should be his fucking fire and brimstone. | ||
| We begin the new conservative party, and we're not going to call it the White Nationalist Party, but today. | ||
| The one option that he has that is the best option is... | ||
| No, you've got to throw in some of those ads. | ||
| No, no, for sure. | ||
| But at the same time, it's make your full break. | ||
| You have the most eyes on you. | ||
| People are... | ||
| Interested in what you're doing. | ||
| You can now, in good conscience, retain what you need to retain from your Trump years. | ||
| Move on to something new. | ||
| Because it's something that even people on the left or people who don't like Alex will be like, yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| The idea that he would turn on Trump because he realizes... | ||
| He's not going to save any of us. | ||
| That is something to be like, yep. | ||
| You'll get some people being like, we told you so, you dumb asshole. | ||
| But at the same time, you can't argue with that conclusion. | ||
| No, yeah, of course. | ||
| You should have seen this coming, but yeah, of course. | ||
| Makes sense that you would turn on him for this. | ||
| Other things, like when Trump bombed Syria, and Alex was like... | ||
| Yeah, so close. | ||
| Shoves ISIS up the dirty asshole. | ||
| That is a position where if you turn on Trump for that, people would be like... | ||
| What does that say politically? | ||
| There would be confusion and questions. | ||
| Him turning on Trump for not pardoning Roger Stone was like, yeah, makes sense. | ||
| There's no deeper political thing to it. | ||
| Yeah, and he had fucking llamas in studio to get publicity. | ||
| Imagine the publicity he would get if he just came out on InfoWars and said, we no longer support Trump. | ||
| That would be MSNBC headlines. | ||
| That's the type of shit that... | ||
| Inexplicably would get everybody talking. | ||
| We've gone too far with this. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Or, get this, what if when Roger was convicted, Alex had llamas in studio? | ||
| Now that would be, see, now that's dynamite. | ||
| That's going to keep people coming back. | ||
| And one of the llamas, Rob Dew, does a ventriloquist act with him, and the llama turns on Trump. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright, and then the other llama gets a tattoo of Roger Stone on its back. | ||
| And then goes to prison. | ||
| Goes to prison, yes. | ||
| Goes to llama prison. | ||
| It's just a pen. | ||
| It's very cute. | ||
| So Alex freaks out here a little bit. | ||
| And I think some of it might have to do with the pressure of there being way more eyes on him. | ||
| Now, I'm not building up suspense here. | ||
| He said suspensefully. | ||
| What I confirmed from multiple people in the courtroom and people that are specialists in this area, let's just leave it at that. | ||
| Is so criminal. | ||
| Is so evil. | ||
| Did you guys find that piece of information I wanted you to print earlier? | ||
| The criminal evil one? | ||
| Critical. | ||
| That we have a congruent stream of memory and consciousness. | ||
|
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What? | |
| Do you mean paper trail? | ||
| You know, I think I'm just going to take a break. | ||
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I think that's probably better. | |
| And then I'll come back and I'll get into all of it, alright? | ||
| But, you know. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| This is a lot of dead air. | ||
| These people are just absolutely unbelievable. | ||
| Drew just gave you guys a file. | ||
| You have that file? | ||
| About four and a half minutes long. | ||
| You got that? | ||
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Got that one? | |
| Thanks. | ||
| Play that. | ||
| And then I'm going to go get this piece of information. | ||
| I love the crew. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| If I could fire every fucking one of you, I would. | ||
| If I could fire everyone, but I can't afford better than you. | ||
| You're all nine-year-olds. | ||
| So mad. | ||
| So he goes and takes a break and plays a special report. | ||
| And he comes back, and you can tell he definitely punched a wall or something. | ||
| Because he's trying to act way more professional. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, I am your host, Alex Jones. | ||
| And I am a syndicated radio and TV host based in Austin, Texas. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| There are a lot of new viewers tuning in via Infowars.com forward slash show and band.video. | ||
| He very clearly wouldn't behave like that. | ||
| Say, I'm a syndicated radio host out of Austin. | ||
| If he didn't have, like, information that there are tons of people who have never listened to his show before tuning in. | ||
| Artificial as fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because of the terrible Roger Stone political prisoner conviction of all seven counts facing 50 years in jail at the hands of the Obama hanging judge who let Hillary Clinton off the hook for Benghazi and the clear stand down of the deaths that happened there. | ||
| She railroaded Manafort and others, but Manafort had actually done some of the things that the claims and Obamas do with the offshore accounts, which you could argue were illegal. | ||
| Still, he was targeted for political reasons. | ||
| Stone did nothing wrong. | ||
| DrudgeReport.com is top-linked to our story and our live feed where we're breaking all of this down. | ||
| So, while it is true that Amy Berman Jackson, the judge in Rogers' trial, was also the judge in the case of Paul Manafort, that is true, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything nefarious is up. | ||
| There are only 15 judges in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, and it's entirely possible that this was a coincidence of timing. | ||
| Alex would need to do better than just to say Obama appointed her to prove any kind of concrete conspiracy here. | ||
| That's a pretty serious accusation to make about a judge. | ||
| If you look up Judge Jackson's history, Alex's picture of a leftist judge towing the liberal line just doesn't really seem to square with reality. | ||
| For instance, she presided over the sentencing of Jesse Jackson Jr., who was a Democrat member of the House and the son of Jesse Jackson, when he stole about $750,000 of campaign money. | ||
| You'd think if she was a damn hatchet person, she would have thrown out his sentence, but instead she put him in jail. | ||
| As it relates to Hillary Clinton, she didn't do anything crazy in terms of Benghazi. | ||
| All she did is dismiss a wrongful death suit against Hillary because it would have been illegal for it to continue based on the Westfall Act. | ||
| The Westfall Act is a 1988 law that made it so the United States itself is to be substituted as a defendant in cases where a government employee is sued for something that was the result of something that they did in their official capacity in their job. | ||
| This act explains a lot of questions why government officials and figures aren't being constantly sued. | ||
| It's because they have a form of immunity in terms of their official business. | ||
| Alex can say that this judge was protecting Hillary, but to do anything other than what she did, Judge Jackson would have violated a Supreme Court ruling and a law passed by Congress. | ||
| It would have been very illegal for her to allow that lawsuit to continue. | ||
| Now, interestingly, in looking into Judge Jackson, I found a website that I have become fascinated with and I might have spent way too much time on. | ||
| It's called Patriot or Traitor. | ||
| Don't. | ||
| Jordan, this is a blog. | ||
| Do not. | ||
| This is a blog? | ||
| Do not tell me that you can just type in a name and it will tell you if they are a patriot or a patriot. | ||
| You can't type in any name, but there's a big database. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This is just a blog where someone has come up with a list of traders and patriots. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So now, Jordan, we're going to play a game. | ||
| We're going to play a game of trader or patriot. | ||
| I'm going to give you a name. | ||
| You've got to guess. | ||
| Do we have an editorial position for trader or patriot? | ||
| Now, if it's me, and I'm guessing who would create a website called trader or patriot.com, I'm guessing that my guys... | ||
| Who I appreciate are probably going to lean more towards the traitor side. | ||
| Would I be correct in that assumption? | ||
| I think that you can guess based on who would make a website like this. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Let's go for it. | |
| You ready? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| First one. | ||
| Amy Berman Jackson. | ||
| Traitor. | ||
| Traitor. | ||
| That was an easy one. | ||
| Easy one. | ||
| Lavoie Finnicum. | ||
| The guy who got shot at the Bundy standoff. | ||
| Patriot. | ||
| Yes, he was a Patriot. | ||
| Mad Dog James Mattis. | ||
| General Mattis. | ||
| Are we pre... | ||
| 2018 or post-2018? | ||
| I can't give you that information. | ||
| I'm going to go with updated to traitor. | ||
| It's not updated, but he is a patriot on the website. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Okay, here you go. | ||
| William Barr. | ||
| Current Attorney General William Barr. | ||
| God, I need timestamps on when these decisions are made. | ||
| These people, everybody is a traitor or a patriot because they're all fucking shady as shit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You've got to make a decision. | ||
| I'm going to go with patriot. | ||
| Traitor. | ||
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What? | |
| Is that possible? | ||
| I should have assumed that it was traitor. | ||
| Otherwise, why would you even bring it up? | ||
| Representative John Lewis. | ||
| Civil rights activist John Lewis. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is there a super traitor? | ||
| Traitor. | ||
| He's a traitor. | ||
| Bernie Sanders. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| See, timestamp. | ||
| There was a time when these people especially would consider Bernie a patriot, but I'm going to have to go with traitor. | ||
| You are correct, traitor. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Edward Snowden. | ||
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Ooh! | |
| There's a couple here at the end that are a little bit tough. | ||
| Yeah, this gets down to personal shit. | ||
| Even in the conservative community, there are people who would say that Snowden was absolutely a traitor, and there are plenty who would say he was absolutely a patriot. | ||
| I'm going to go with... | ||
| traitor. | ||
| Patriot. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| Son of a bitch! | ||
| And finally, last one. | ||
| Justice Antonin Scalia. | ||
| I don't know, but wherever he is, I'm glad it's hell. | ||
| So you've got to make a choice. | ||
| I'm going to go with Patreon. | ||
| Traitor. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Fine! | ||
| I'm fine with it. | ||
| I did find, if you go through this, almost everybody who's a Supreme Court justice is a traitor. | ||
| Well, yeah, because sooner or later you'll be able to find one case where you're like, that's a traitor case. | ||
| Honestly, that site is not nearly as fun as the idea of it is. | ||
| It's mostly just walls of text. | ||
| And I should tell you, there are... | ||
| Way more traitors than patriots. | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. | ||
| Anyway, point is, Alex needs to do better than this if he wants to smear a judge just because he's going to send his friend to prison. | ||
| She had no legal reason to not dismiss the case against Hillary, and it's entirely possible it's a coincidence that she got both Roger and Manafort's cases. | ||
| There are clear counterexamples in her judicial history, like that of Jesse Jackson Jr., that tend to hurt the theory that she's a biased, set-up kind of judge. | ||
| You can really tell, though, he knows that more people are listening now. | ||
| He's trying to sound real smart and focused, and I think it's cute. | ||
| He's doing it wrong. | ||
| He should be going full crazy. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| That's how you get people to come back. | ||
| Nobody wants to just listen to a professional broadcast. | ||
| You're Alex fucking Jones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So earlier he said that he's not building suspense right before he started freaking out and had to go off air. | ||
| It's because he has big news. | ||
| And I talked to some other journalists that are scared to come on about what was said this morning in the trial when they tried to put Roger in prison until the February 6th sentencing that the judge has done and what happened there and what was said about Roger. | ||
| And myself and you, the listeners of this show. | ||
| It's about you. | ||
| And I'm not building up the suspense of it. | ||
| I'm getting some documents, doing some research, collating those. | ||
| And I'm going to write a statement during the next break so that I get this precisely the way it is because they want to arrest me and they're saying it in the court. | ||
| You've seen them in the news last week trying to get me arrested and lying about me. | ||
| Yeah, so he's teasing. | ||
| He's trying to tease this out. | ||
| We're telling these listeners. | ||
| Because he has big things happening on the show. | ||
| But he doesn't. | ||
| Isn't that what the real issue here is? | ||
| He doesn't really have anything to tease. | ||
| So he's trying to make up something frantically. | ||
| He's trying to find a way to spin whatever he's got going. | ||
| Which is just basically that the prosecution was arguing that his actions... | ||
| We're a breach of Roger's gag order. | ||
| That's really all that this whole tease is all about. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Alex does have something huge going on. | ||
| But most people listening to his show wouldn't think this is huge. | ||
| Only I think it's huge. | ||
| And that is that he's got Larry Nichols coming on. | ||
| He'll join us again Sunday on the Sunday, Shelby Live, 4 to 6 p.m. or Monday. | ||
| So we get more time. | ||
| He understands this is breaking right now, but it ties into all this. | ||
| I've known Larry Nichols. | ||
| For 25 years, he did work for the Clintons. | ||
| He was a Green Beret and did a bunch of stuff in Latin America. | ||
| He did a bunch of CIA stuff. | ||
| He did help them get elected. | ||
| He did help them do dirty tricks. | ||
| He did help them develop the broken coalition strategy. | ||
| Bill Clinton, in a memoir, did call him a very dangerous person to them. | ||
| Well, he is dangerous. | ||
| He's crazy. | ||
| To my knowledge, Larry Nichols has not been on Alex's show in over two years. | ||
| I can't say with absolute certainty, but I know that I haven't heard him on the show since September 21st, 2017. | ||
| Which I remember very well, because that was the day Larry threatened to blackmail Congress and Mueller if they didn't stop investigating Trump, which is a big old crime. | ||
| We had a great day. | ||
| That was a good one. | ||
| There's something going on here, and I think it's something that I've been sensing for a while now. | ||
| When Joel Skousen started making increasing appearances on the show, I thought it was possibly an indication of Alex shifting things a little bit in his show. | ||
| Skousen had made it very clear that he doesn't think much of Trump, and actually called him an idiot many times on Alex's show. | ||
| After the 2016 election, when Alex was at the high point of his Trump infatuation, this led to them not seeing eye to eye, and he really wasn't around too much as a trusted source. | ||
| But he's coming back on the show now, which is interesting, more regularly. | ||
| Then, on November 14th, I'm sorry, on the 13th, Alex had Steve Pachanek back on the show, after him being gone for over a year. | ||
| And now, here we have Larry Nichols, brought back from the dead, after a very long absence. | ||
| I think these three reappearing are very interesting, and I'll tell you why. | ||
| Alex lost a lot more experts than just these three when he went full Trump. | ||
| Webster Tarpley hates Trump, and he would never talk to Alex again at this point. | ||
| Wayne Madsen hates Trump, and now views Alex as some kind of a shill, most likely for Israel. | ||
| These were dudes that Alex built narratives on. | ||
| Webster Tarpley was like one-third of the Obama deception documentary. | ||
| These were central figures in the Info War. | ||
| Skousen, Steve, and Larry were important too, but they're guys that Alex has who don't hate him for what he's become. | ||
| Steve and Larry are into Trump, but obviously for their own reasons. | ||
| Steve wants to install a dictator, and Larry just hates the Clintons. | ||
| Skousen doesn't like Trump, but he still respects Alex because of their shared insane anti-communism. | ||
| These are the three experts from days past who Alex could credibly bring back into his roster while transitioning away from Trump successfully. | ||
| In that period, Skousen could be presented as an expert who was regrettably right all along, that Trump embodied a great promise for them but wasn't competent enough to follow through. | ||
| Steve can make up stories about how Trump could have saved everyone, but the counter-coup was just too strong. | ||
| Larry can connect any stories about any Democrat to the Clintons and whisper ominously about witches. | ||
| He's got that skill in spades. | ||
| Witches. | ||
| It's like he's the best at playing Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, but instead it's always Clinton. | ||
| And witches. | ||
| I accept that I'm probably way overthinking this, but from where I'm sitting, the timing of this stuff seems very suspicious. | ||
| Skousen's been reintegrating, and then on the day of the impeachment inquiry starting the hearings, Steve is back. | ||
| And now the day Roger is found guilty, Larry is back. | ||
| It could all be a coincidence. | ||
| I'm totally fine that that is a very fine possibility. | ||
| But these dudes were regulars on the show for years, and just a few years back. | ||
| They were the people who were replaced by the Gavin McGinnises and the Mike Cernovich crowd. | ||
| For them to be making a resurgence feels like it means something. | ||
| But I want to stress that I could just be drawing conclusions that aren't necessarily there. | ||
| Another reason that I think this maybe might not mean anything too big is that Alex is in the middle of trying to pretend that Hillary is secretly running in 2020. | ||
| So why wouldn't he call Larry Nichols? | ||
| He's trying to run an imaginary anti-Hillary campaign, but he doesn't have Roger this time. | ||
| So it makes sense that he would resort to whatever he remembers from last time. | ||
| Thus, the Pizzagate narrative is coming back and Larry Nichols' dumbass showing back up, too. | ||
| It makes some sense, but it does also fit a pattern of what you would do if you were trying to save what you could. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What I see is that... | ||
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| Like, common sports narrative? | ||
| Where the guy is hanging out with his friends. | ||
| We're from wherever. | ||
| We'll always be from wherever. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| He goes to the big times. | ||
| Stops hanging out with his friends. | ||
| He's like, nah, I don't have time for you. | ||
| I got the president elected. | ||
| I'm above this shit. | ||
| And then he went back to his roots. | ||
| He's got a broken ankle and he's never going to be able to play again. | ||
| And all of a sudden, now he's back home. | ||
| He's got a... | ||
| Fucking fix the relationship with his buddies. | ||
| He's got to go back there, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I agree with you, and it's difficult to tell how much of it is some sort of a plan like that, but it feels like, I mean, we're hearing these indications of Alex being like, Trump doesn't, he's not going to protect us, and he's not going to pardon Roger, I don't know what I'm going to do. | ||
| You have simultaneously the recurrence of these people who are, The people from his past that have drifted for various reasons that he could reintegrate and work with. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I just... | ||
| Oh, man, no. | ||
| Here's what's even better. | ||
| This is where I got it, all right? | ||
| He just came to LA. | ||
| He's been working his ass off. | ||
| Roger Stone gets signed as his agent immediately. | ||
| Trump, he's the head of the studio. | ||
| He's getting all kinds of pictures lined up. | ||
| Everything is going his way. | ||
| All of a sudden, Stone gets arrested and Trump stops answering his emails. | ||
| And now, uh-oh, I'm fucked. | ||
| That's where I see it. | ||
| And so that's where he goes back to his fucking... | ||
| Missouri hometown little improv theater and they just fucking bang it out, man. | ||
| We're going to start a band. | ||
| Whatever the reality of it is, I sense a drifting away. | ||
| I sense a possibility of it being more anti-Hillary than pro-Trump moving forward. | ||
| And certainly these are the three people that I can think of. | ||
| That aren't around or haven't been around anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That Alex could still do shit with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of those other people, if he tried to bring them into the show, it would be confrontational. | ||
| It would be like if Webster Tarpaul was on, he would probably talk about how libertarianism is a gateway to fascism. | ||
| Like, oh, no, no, no, no. | ||
| He would dunk on Alex all day. | ||
| Try and bring Wayne Madsen back in. | ||
| He'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
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| And all those things would turn bad. | ||
| Steve, Skousen, and Larry are three ways to connect the past to the present. | ||
| To have a coherent connection of whatever he fucking said. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're like a constant in the lost terminology. | ||
| It's a bridge between the past and the present that he can use to work towards a future that is different than what he has now. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe he just doesn't have Stone's Rolodex anymore. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| There's a hundred possibilities. | ||
| Could just be that he's like, no one else will talk to him. | ||
| It could mean nothing, but I just sense trends away from Trump. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| The problem with that is I don't see any way that it... | ||
| Because if you're going to stop, if you're no longer carrying water for Trump, and if you're no longer defending all of the shit he says, Then you've only got the anti-Hillary stuff, and there's really nothing there. | ||
| So all you've really got left from is just calling for more out-and-out violence. | ||
| You do have that to some extent. | ||
| I think that you'd have a tough time threading that needle. | ||
| But you could also really regroup and be like, okay. | ||
| What we need is a Trump, but more competent and loyal and trustworthy. | ||
| Steve, Steve, shut up. | ||
| Shut up about the whole fucking dictatorship shit. | ||
| Steve, you get the fuck down. | ||
| All right. | ||
| That will be another issue that you have to deal with. | ||
| Sorry, Steve was just screaming in my ear about how we should run everything. | ||
| You could see Alex trying again with a more principled person or something. | ||
| You could see him getting behind Jim Jordan as their new cult leader. | ||
| Or something like the new figurehead. | ||
| You could see him trying to reconnect with Rand Paul. | ||
| There are options that he could go to in terms of who you look to. | ||
| But we've talked about this a hundred times. | ||
| Alex's show works as a counter to something as opposed to a supporting of something. | ||
| So it doesn't matter if he has somebody fully to support. | ||
| He needs to get that albatross off his neck and get back to just attacking. | ||
| And attacking Hillary is something, and the deep state can be done without Trump. | ||
| Anybody can do it. | ||
| And Skousen, Larry, and Steve are great tools to have for him in terms of furthering that goal, getting back to what works, as opposed to sycophantically... | ||
| Praising your god king. | ||
| And what has it done for him? | ||
| He's got Carpe Dunctum hanging out. | ||
| Carpe Dunctum won't even go on his show anymore. | ||
| He's got all these meme dicks. | ||
| That's the alternative. | ||
| Yeah, that must be so disheartening. | ||
| The reason that I joined the Trump team was because I was promised elevation and all I've got left. | ||
| Is carpe donctum. | ||
| And the guy who hits stuff with a hammer. | ||
| He does hit stuff with a hammer, though. | ||
| Except I don't know if he's coming back on the show. | ||
| Yeah, I doubt it. | ||
| He's a little bit big time for Alex now. | ||
| But you know who isn't? | ||
| Larry fucking Hayes. | ||
| Hey, Larry. | ||
| So here we get to hearing this raspy-ass voice back on the show. | ||
| But thanks for joining us. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What do you think of the Roger Stone situation? | ||
| Alex, it's just what I have warned you about 25, 30 years ago. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| It's coming live. | ||
| It's real. | ||
| For Roger. | ||
| I feel sorry for anybody. | ||
| But they attack. | ||
| They attack him. | ||
| So Larry wants to bring Soros into a conspiracy. | ||
| Oh yeah, of course. | ||
| But it's really funny because in this next clip he can't come up with Soros' name. | ||
| He's like, I know there's a bad guy. | ||
| Something that nobody's talking about, which is probably one of the biggest clues of what's happening, Alex, is what's his name? | ||
| Oh, God, my mind just went blank. | ||
| The guy that funds all the man teeth and everything. | ||
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Help me here a second. | |
| I'm having a. | ||
| It's OK, Larry, stay there. | ||
| I don't think that that is like an aging memory loss kind of thing. | ||
| I think that's just not... | ||
| Larry, having a conspiracy... | ||
| But not really knowing what he's talking about. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's just like, I don't remember this guy's name. | ||
| He's juggling too many bad guys in his brain. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| He's had so many, over the years, he's had so many boogeymen. | ||
| Who knows which one's supposed to go where? | ||
| Soros is actually Wick Stevens. | ||
| Yeah, it's a Rockefeller's. | ||
| Sure, fine, man. | ||
| So, Alex comes back from break, but you heard that music again. | ||
| Again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'm telling you, it plays throughout most of the episode. | ||
| He hates his crew so much. | ||
| I would too. | ||
| So they come back and Alex gets into talking about how he's really mad about the fact that his name came up in the trial. | ||
| And yeah, I got a big target painted on my back. | ||
| And hey, I'll probably get destroyed in the process here in the next few years. | ||
| Maybe even sooner. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| That's what men do. | ||
| They stand up. | ||
| Because the example... | ||
| They make out of me they think it's going to intimidate you. | ||
| I think it's going to inspire you to not go along with these people and to take our government back legally and lawfully. | ||
| And we're in the process of it now. | ||
| But the missing link in all this is the Justice Department and Trump. | ||
| Because the government's so full of these people that are arrogant and entitled and insolent that they really believe I should be in a jail cell because that witch war criminal Hillary didn't get in. | ||
| We're going to go to Larry Nichols. | ||
| I apologize for getting him on late. | ||
| Huge breaking things this segment and the next. | ||
| Also, we'll have him back soon so we can really get into all this. | ||
| Please remember, we're Lister Supported. | ||
| The big thing they try to take away is money to fund ourselves. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| So what Alex is talking about there in that clip, and it's basically just the big news that he had to deliver that he keeps teasing, is that he thinks that the court wants him arrested. | ||
| This is neither true nor is it big news. | ||
| I was trying to find a clip to cut of him talking about this, but honestly, the delivery of it when he gets around to it is so rambling and incoherent that I felt like we could just talk about it. | ||
| On his show on the 14th, Alex purported to have that message from Roger. | ||
| That message was largely that he felt like he was going to be found guilty and he wanted Alex's audience to pray for him and for Trump to pardon him. | ||
| This was unfortunately wrapped in messages from Alex that if Roger got found guilty, everyone needed to go surround the White House and bullhorn them, and that it was the end of freedom and all those other things that got caught up in it. | ||
| All of which have already come true. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So because of that, you know, they just felt like, we've already talked about this. | ||
| But that's the news. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Is that they talked about in court that Alex might have been responsible for breaking the gag order. | ||
| So, ultimately, you know, holding Roger after the sentencing, I think that might have been, or after the verdict, that might have been a bit excessive, but that's not what they did. | ||
| I think that the fact that they retained the gag order is something that is very responsible to do. | ||
| So, while under the gag order, Roger posted an image of Judge Jackson with, like, a crosshair on it. | ||
| Alex has a habit of targeting people for harassment, and that behavior has been particularly bad lately. | ||
| With his two botched attempts at guessing Roger's potential juror names, particularly notable. | ||
| Plus, the case Roger was being tried for involved witness tampering and intimidation. | ||
| Putting him under a gag order is like suspending someone's driver's license when they're awaiting trial for a DWI. | ||
| He's shown that he can't be trusted to behave responsibly. | ||
| More importantly, you can hear with Alex this frustration that's growing with Trump. | ||
| He and his buddies are out here on the front lines and either doing everything they can, but Trump refuses to act or support them. | ||
| Alex is teased turning on Trump so many times that I can't really even trust anything he's saying. | ||
| But I think that his petty feelings about being abandoned are the most plausible thing that will cause Alex to jump shit. | ||
| Yeah, you are absolutely right on that. | ||
| And this is a situation that could easily create those feelings. | ||
| That's the only reason why I take any of this like... | ||
| As a possibility that's worth discussing, it's because it fits his behaviors so well. | ||
| He could trample all over any political position that Alex has ever had, obviously. | ||
| But if he's like, oh no, sorry Alex, I don't care about you. | ||
| What have you done for me lately? | ||
| I don't remember you being that important to me. | ||
| Your actions were great, but they don't deserve any reward. | ||
| Is the recipe for him to hate you. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex is talking to Larry, and Larry makes an interesting caveat. | ||
| Just get into the impeachment. | ||
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I'm a liar. | |
| And Hillary behind the scenes, she's clearly still in control of the deep state. | ||
| That's now admitted. | ||
| And what you think their next moves are going to be. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But let me say this out front, folks. | ||
| Anything I say, Alex is not responsible for. | ||
| It's from me. | ||
| And if the prosecution wants to come after me, come after me, not Alex. | ||
| And before we leave Roger Stone, here's what I know, Alex. | ||
| Roger Stone goes in jail. | ||
| Now, folks, I dealt with Jim McDougall. | ||
| He was killed in jail. | ||
| Especially after the Epstein case, I fear if Roger gets put in prison, he won't be there a week. | ||
| He will not be there a week. | ||
| He will be eliminated. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| I know these people. | ||
| So why is Larry saying that Alex isn't responsible for his words? | ||
| Is that because the last time he was on, he blackmailed Congress? | ||
| Okay, so there is that. | ||
| And you don't want to have any of that mess? | ||
| You need a boilerplate? | ||
| There definitely does sound like there was a pre-show meeting. | ||
| It feels like it. | ||
| It feels like, hey Larry, you talk a lot of shit. | ||
| I don't want to get sued. | ||
| I'm already getting sued. | ||
| I'm already getting sued. | ||
| Everyone yells at me for things that my guests say. | ||
| Can you please make a disclaimer? | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if every guest going forward doesn't have to put some sort of that. | ||
| He's smart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Larry has a theory, and it's not well fleshed out in his words. | ||
| But I know from looking into this... | ||
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I think Roger Stone is an airbender, and he'll get out of prison that way. | |
| That's not well spelled out in his words. | ||
| Talking about the impeachment inquiry, he thinks that it is very notable that Adam Schiff is a screenwriter. | ||
| Okay, yes. | ||
| So what's going on is that Adam Schiff is screenwriting a play in real time. | ||
| That is the impeachment. | ||
| That's basically the long and short of his theory. | ||
| The impeachment. | ||
| This impeachment was rigged from day one. | ||
| What I have found out and have turned over to the prosecutors... | ||
| Which ones? | ||
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| ...is that it turns out that Adam Schiff, folks, wrote the script. | ||
| This whole script they're going through now, it's a subpoena trap. | ||
| He did it back when they figured out that the Mueller case was going to end up going nowhere, which was about halfway through the Mueller investigation. | ||
| Now, I didn't know this until the host I was doing researched it, but as it turns out... | ||
| Adam Schiff has a hobby. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| Let's talk about that hobby when we're back in two minutes with Larry Nichols, because I'm going to shut up for a while and let him break it down. | ||
| I mean, I want to make this clear. | ||
| He's literally saying it's a screenwriting thing. | ||
| It's not metaphorical. | ||
| He's doing like a fucking Twilight Zone episode where the mystery novel writer, the mysteries become real. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| So Larry is on primarily probably because he had this story about Ed Buck being involved with Adam Schiff. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so Alex gets to that. | ||
| And then, I don't know if you can make more sense of this than I can, but Larry literally says in the middle of this clip, Adam Schiff went to these parties at Buck's house dressed like an Egyptian because he's a screenwriter. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's see if you can make sense of it because I am flummoxed. | ||
| The answer is going after the ringleader's crimes and exposing them and that's what Larry Nichols is doing with its confirmed mainstream news that Adam Schiff leading the fake impeachment. | ||
| His good buddies with Buck is there at least 16 times at bizarre sex parties where they did ritualistic mock human sacrifice. | ||
| And that's in some of the diaries of some of the victims that died, at least three black men. | ||
| Some of them crawling, begging as he would plunge needles filled with methamphetamine into them as a form of sacrifice, reportedly. | ||
| Larry Nichols, getting back to what you were saying, longer segment coming up. | ||
| In the short one, please continue with the hobby of Adam Schiff and what your sources are saying. | ||
| Well, absolutely. | ||
| As a matter of fact, I'm the one that brought the fact that Schiff had been to Buck's apartment. | ||
| Larry, do me a favor, back off your receiver a little bit. | ||
| Now they have verification 27 times he was at Buck's parties. | ||
| Now the other thing is the time frame at which he's gone to. | ||
| It's always of an evening. | ||
| Plus, in seven of the events he went to, they were costume kind of parties. | ||
| In line with Adam Schiff's screenwriting dreams, he would go as the freaky, weird, like you said, Egyptian-type demon outfit. | ||
| Freaky, weird, Egyptian-type demon outfits because he's a screenwriter. | ||
| Okay, so his... | ||
| Now, I'm going to diagram what I think he's saying. | ||
| I saw you taking some notes. | ||
| All right, so if I understand this correctly... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In order to further his screenwriting career, head of the House Judiciary Committee, Adam Schiff, is dressing in an... | ||
| Egyptian outfit. | ||
| The freaky weird Egyptian type demon outfit. | ||
| To go to ritualistic sacrifices. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it's important to note that they must be. | ||
| At night. | ||
| Because he only goes in the evening. | ||
| Evening times. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So I want to get this out of the way up top. | ||
| Nothing I'm saying or any takes on this story that I have should imply that I have any interest in defending Ed Buck. | ||
| I hope his case is thoroughly investigated and he's punished to the full extent of the law. | ||
| I think it's good for people to talk about that case as long as they stay grounded in reality. | ||
| However, I don't think that's what Larry is doing. | ||
| Larry's been pushing this Adam Schiff narrative since at least October 11th, when he made a startling allegation on the YouTube show Crowdsource the Truth. | ||
| It's pretty complicated to describe what that show is, but I think it might be fair to say it's a bargain bin Infowars, where Alex's guests go when Alex is too busy. | ||
| Like, when you get kicked off Twitter, you go to Gab, it's kind of the same thing when a guest is no longer welcome on Infowars, but still has an itch to lie to people. | ||
| They end up going to crowdsource the truth. | ||
| Jerome Corsi and Larry Nichols are two of the show's regular guests currently. | ||
| The host, Jason Goodman, has also welcomed to his show some of the more unsavory characters who've popped up on Alex's show over the years. | ||
| There's Robert David Steele, the guy who told Alex that globalists are taking kidnapped children to Mars bases. | ||
| I do think the two of them have had a falling out, though. | ||
| Goodman and Robert David Steele. | ||
| There's Laura Loomer. | ||
| There's Larry Klayman, who recently sued Alex, along with Jerome Corsi. | ||
| There's Jack Posobiec. | ||
| There's also a weird Project Camelot overlap, in which Jason has had Carrie Cassidy on at least once, as well as her big false flag expert, Ole Damogard, who's someone who we haven't covered because those episodes are not Project Camelot fun. | ||
| But he's on Project Camelot a lot to talk about false flags. | ||
| Along with... | ||
| Jim Fetzer, sometimes. | ||
| The guy who wrote the book, No One Died at Sandy Hook. | ||
| I hate so much that if Adam Schiff, and I don't even care if it's true or not, but Adam Schiff likes to write screenplays in his off time, and that's evidence that he's some sort of evil whatever it is. | ||
| But Carrie Cassidy tried to write screenplays, but... | ||
| She's the only one who's exposing the real truth now. | ||
| And she's still writing screenplays. | ||
| Does nothing matter? | ||
| No, it doesn't. | ||
| So hilariously, the thumbnail image on one of the videos of this crowdsource the truth that was interviewing Ole Damogard is just the Illuminati card game cards. | ||
| Okay, of course. | ||
| And it has the title, quote, our globalist elites playing our lives as a game. | ||
| That works for me. | ||
| Honestly, I've considered covering that show as a Wacky Wednesday option, but every time I've tried, I just find the host so boring and the content very unengaging. | ||
| With Larry coming back into Alex's life, I might have to reconsider, but I probably won't. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Jason Goodman himself has been at least featured on David Knight's show, but I'm not sure he's ever made it to the rarefied air of being on with Alex. | ||
| He also sometimes talks to people who Alex doesn't ignore, like Mike Adams and Owen Schroyer. | ||
| Also, Jason Goodman was one of the journalists who attended Alex's weird press conference back in April of last year. | ||
| It's a show that traffics in all the real dumb, cool conspiracy theories like Pizzagate, Seth Rich, the Las Vegas shooting. | ||
| He's even down with the dumb Dennis Montgomery bullshit. | ||
| My point here is that this is basically a junior varsity Infowars, and it's not a good show. | ||
| That's where Larry Nichols started putting this information out, after which point it gets repeated ad nauseum in the fringe right-wing media. | ||
| It's really easy to get this narrative cooking. | ||
| Larry's a lunatic who has a 20-something year record of making shit up for attention and money, but he can just go on a dumb YouTube conspiracy show, say some stupid shit, then sites like True Pundit will re-report it, while breathlessly calling Larry a consummate Washington insider and Clinton confidant. | ||
| True Pundit posts articles with headlines like, quote, Clinton whistleblower, feds investigating Adam Schiff's disturbing behavior at Ed Buck's meth sex house. | ||
| With no confirmation or evidence other than Larry saying it. | ||
| Then, sites with real smart-sounding names like Global Intel Hub get to re-report on the story, linking to the True Pundit story saying, quote, officially Schiff is under investigation. | ||
| This story gets at the added flair of credibility because there are pictures of Schiff and Buck at events together because Buck was a huge political donor. | ||
| And because of that, of course Buck's crime deserves particular attention. | ||
| I don't disagree with that. | ||
| And Schiff or any other politician, if they turn a blind eye to Buck's actions because of financial support, then they should be held to account for that. | ||
| But the simple fact of Buck donating to Schiff or Schiff being seen with Buck at a public event, that doesn't prove anything on its own. | ||
| What Larry and Alex are doing is completely unacceptable because they don't care about Buck's crimes except how they can be used to further their political ends. | ||
| And I find that shitty. | ||
| If any of this stuff can ever be proven in any way, I'm fine changing my position. | ||
| But for now, I have a standing position of not believing a damn thing Larry Nichols says, unless it can be confirmed by someone who isn't a career liar. | ||
| Yeah, that picture... | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| You've got a picture of Trump with every Democratic lawmaker. | ||
| Does that mean they're all... | ||
| It's all fucking stupid. | ||
| So do you understand, though, this pipeline? | ||
| You have Larry in October going on Crowdsource the Truth, which is a dumb conspiracy YouTube show. | ||
| He says this bullshit on there. | ||
| It gets picked up by a blog that has no goddamn... | ||
| Editorial stance or standards at all. | ||
| And then it gets re-repeated like a game of telephone from there. | ||
| So when Alex says this has been confirmed in the mainstream news, it hasn't. | ||
| It's a blog post on True Pundit that's based on Larry just talking shit. | ||
| This is how the pipeline works. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| A high school pitcher starts throwing 95 miles an hour and in eight months they're in the major leagues. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, Larry has an interesting position about these hearings that are going on in the impeachment inquiry. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Now, you'll notice what they're doing. | ||
| They're using this hearing to solicit deep state career people to come out, come forward. | ||
| And as we found out with the quote-unquote whistleblower, if you don't have anything to report, get a hold of us. | ||
| And Schiff will screenwrite you a part to play and what to say. | ||
| And of course, they're making it very clear that they will protect you. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
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| Don't worry if we're telling you to say stuff that didn't happen. | ||
| They'll never touch you. | ||
| We'll protect you. | ||
| So it's an open casting call. | ||
| This impeachment inquiry. | ||
| Another way of saying that is he will include you in the proceedings. | ||
| No, no, he's writing you. | ||
| I mean, even if... | ||
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That's a metaphor! | |
| Even if it's literal, that's... | ||
| God, that's... | ||
| You know what that is? | ||
| That is weak. | ||
| Bullshit, Larry. | ||
| That's Larry. | ||
| I expect hard rice from you, not this soft bullshit. | ||
| No, Larry is usually this weak. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's very thin. | ||
| Man, he will screenwrite you apart. | ||
| Yeah, very dumb. | ||
| Got him. | ||
| So, the other thing that Larry is bringing is this mentality that now that Roger is going to prison, we've got to be the voice of Roger. | ||
| No. | ||
| Listen, none of this is about me, Alex. | ||
| This is about your info wars now. | ||
| They're going to try to shut you down. | ||
| But folks, if we stand behind Alex, and I'm not here to patronize or anything like that. | ||
| I'm here to tell you the damn truth. | ||
| Straight up, nuts up. | ||
| Alex, you and I and others, we've got to become the voice for Roger Stone. | ||
| He can't do it anymore. | ||
| We've got to do it. | ||
| And just like Soros is doing, he's going around to the United States and they're down-ballot funding prosecutors and county sheriffs. | ||
| Why? | ||
| So that if anybody stands up, So, Larry is saying that we've got to be the voice of Roger. | ||
| I just got a message from Roger Stone right now, Dan. | ||
| He can't speak for himself, but we can. | ||
| We have to be... | ||
| Now that Roger can't speak on InfoWars, Dan... | ||
| We have to be Roger Stone's voice. | ||
| Suspicious. | ||
| I think we do. | ||
| And now he's remembered Soros' name. | ||
| He's remembered the narrative he was supposed to push, and that is that now they're trying to get these prosecutors in in rural areas in order to tamp down rural dissent. | ||
| What is it with these fucking dudes in county sheriffs? | ||
| They're the highest authority in the world. | ||
| Why would that even cross your mind is not a crazy thing to say. | ||
| Soros is funding new county sheriffs in order to... | ||
| That's insane! | ||
| Well, it's because I think they recognize that the largest share of their base and their audience is probably people in rural areas. | ||
| People who are disconnected from larger communities. | ||
| Who are county sheriffs. | ||
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| And so it does serve their interest to try and make them more scared of their position. | ||
| Right, I get that. | ||
| That's just so silly. | ||
| Yeah, it's dumb. | ||
| But Larry is insistent that this isn't about Roger. | ||
| This isn't even about Trump. | ||
| It's about you. | ||
| They know what they're doing. | ||
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And folks, they're not going after Trump. | |
| They're not going after Alex. | ||
| They're coming after us. | ||
| Change Trump's name to us. | ||
| Change Alex's name to us. | ||
| That's who they're coming after. | ||
| Did you commit all those crimes? | ||
| You know, Alex, you and I, years, years ago, said there would be a coup, that we were in a soft coup. | ||
| I don't think your audience has ever even heard of a soft coup until we talked about it. | ||
| Yawn. | ||
| So, look, this is all like just, you know, trying to personalize this to the audience and, you know, whatever. | ||
| It's exactly what you would expect them to do. | ||
| And also what you would expect them to do is, Larry, if he's coming back, He's got to pay the bills. | ||
| And it's on. | ||
| It's on. | ||
| And everywhere you turn, they are working to do the big word, submission. | ||
| Put you and everyone in submission. | ||
| And it's a blessing to hear you, Alex, not go into submission. | ||
| Stand up. | ||
| Now, unfortunately, folks, he's going to have a big target on his back already does, but it's going to get bigger. | ||
| But this is where I ask all of y 'all out there. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| purchased or been a part of Alex's organization through his products or donations or whatever. | ||
| Do it now. | ||
| Do it now. | ||
| This is part of the arrangement. | ||
| Oh yeah, that was definitely contingent upon his return. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Or even if it's not, it's just Larry knows the game. | ||
| He knows what he has to do. | ||
| And that harkens all the way back to some Ted Anderson gold sales. | ||
| It's so transparently bullshit. | ||
| Alright, you might as well be reading off copy, man. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So do you think Larry thinks that Hillary's running? | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm going to say that Larry thinks that there's no way Hillary's going to run. | ||
| What she's trying to do is orchestrate the actual candidate, and then when the candidate wins election, she will kill the candidate and assume the role of president. | ||
| That would be better. | ||
| He just thinks she's running. | ||
| Hillary sees what I see and what you see, Alec. | ||
| This thing's going down. | ||
| If it's ever going to go, it's going to go down. | ||
| She needs to be the head of it, and she plans to be the head of it. | ||
| So I will not be surprised at all if she's not in that race in a month. | ||
| Now, we don't have time today, but as I've done in the past, if you have me on again, I'll be glad to tell everybody exactly what they're doing and what they're doing next. | ||
| And you know, Alex, we had a hell of a good track record. | ||
| Yeah, you do. | ||
| Let's flash back to when Larry was saying that Obama was going to run again in 2016 and then declare himself a Muslim and turn America into a Muslim country so he would be the king of global Islam. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, it was either that or turn into a shitty centrist trying to ruin his legacy as much as possible. | ||
| You remember when Larry was saying that they were going to launch a FEMA provisional government in a state of emergency because when the Clintons do that, If they're in charge, they become king. | ||
| If you're the president, when that goes into effect, you become king. | ||
| And there are no senators or congress members who are coming out and telling you the truth because when that shit goes down, they become dukes. | ||
| Yes, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, it was either that or she would go on a book tour. | ||
| Great batting average, Larry. | ||
| Look, if you accept that there were only two possibilities each time, he only was half wrong on both. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, like, when he says she sees that it's going down, that's what he's talking about, is, like, whatever government where we get kings and dukes is about to start, and she better be in charge of that. | ||
| That's what he's talking about. | ||
| This is, like, horse shit. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So, anyway, you know, Alex, I don't know how to talk about this next clip, because it's fucking weird. | ||
| So Alex starts telling a story that Roger told him pre-gag order. | ||
| So it's okay for him to tell this story. | ||
| No, I'm going to go with air on the side of caution, man. | ||
| It's about Roger getting threatened if he didn't do what the globalists wanted him to do. | ||
| Air on the side of caution. | ||
| And so Alex has also been threatened. | ||
| But there's a weird reason why he doesn't talk specifically about these threats. | ||
| Well, I was told this before they gagged him. | ||
| And so I can say it, but he did have people reach out to him from the system to turn against Trump. | ||
| They'd leave him alone. | ||
| And, of course, he didn't do it. | ||
| And so he got a SWAT team raid. | ||
| And I've had the same stuff as well. | ||
| And, you know, they're off-record discussions. | ||
| And I've had to sign nondisclosures and things like that. | ||
| And I want to be able to meet with these criminals occasionally so I don't ever break those deals because that's not criminal to meet with the criminals. | ||
| But, you know, I've had meetings with these mafia people's representatives. | ||
| And they're basically like, hey man, we're going to kill you. | ||
| And I'm like, well, just go ahead. | ||
| Because you're going to get it after that politically. | ||
| That's what this is all about. | ||
| If I need to go down at the Alamo jackasses, I will. | ||
| You understand? | ||
| Just remember, you're going to get it. | ||
| You see how you're already getting your ass handed to you? | ||
| You already see how long you're losing it? | ||
| I'll be just like Gandhi when you take that club and split my head. | ||
| When that blood's running down both sides. | ||
| I'll know I beat your ass. | ||
| Larry Nichols, we love you. | ||
| We'll talk to you again soon, buddy. | ||
| That's that music again. | ||
| And so if I understand this correctly, tell me if you have a different interpretation. | ||
| Alex is saying that he has been threatened by these globalists. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he would talk about it specifically more, but he agreed to confidentiality surrounding this. | ||
| And he doesn't want to break that confidentiality because he still likes to take meetings with these globalists so they can threaten to kill him and he can yell at them. | ||
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And he doesn't want to jeopardize that because that's good fun. | |
| That makes no sense. | ||
| I don't break these NDAs with literal demon vampires. | ||
| Who just have me in for meetings and threaten to kill me. | ||
| I don't want to break those agreements. | ||
| Because then what would I do? | ||
| Maybe they have something important to say sometime. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| Keep your friends close, Dan. | ||
| But keep your enemies closer by never violating their NDAs. | ||
| That's so stupid. | ||
| I can't believe someone would hear that and be like, yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| I also love that. | ||
| Larry, we'll talk to you soon. | ||
| Love you, buddy. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's so fucking stupid. | ||
| Do you understand now, though, when I was telling you that they keep playing the music, that I was like, this seems weird. | ||
| Do you agree with me? | ||
| I've never heard the same song this many times on the same show. | ||
| You seem to be a little bit hesitant to accept my conclusion that it seemed weird. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| You get the point that I'm saying. | ||
| I get the point that you're saying. | ||
| It doesn't seem weird to me because the level of incompetence is established at such a high level that it's like, man, they just don't know how to change the track. | ||
| I can't tell what the explanation is, but there's something. | ||
| It could just be... | ||
| They accidentally put their iTunes on repeat and they didn't know how to change it. | ||
| But the problem with that is that it's not the only music that's played. | ||
| It's played a lot. | ||
| But there's other music. | ||
| Like, in this next clip, Alex comes back from break listening to music from The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. | ||
| And it makes him say something really fucking weird. | ||
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You know, you go see an epic movie, that great spaghetti western, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. | |
| It's basically perfectly done. | ||
| It's a really great movie. | ||
| It has that unreality that makes it reality. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So that's Alex clearly articulating this sort of weirdness that he has about fiction and reality. | ||
| There's an unreality to the movie that makes it real. | ||
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What makes it real is just how fictional it is. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So Larry is gone, but Alex is still talking about this buck thing for a little bit. | ||
| They can't stop! | ||
| Look at Chef! | ||
| That's not just Nichols saying that. | ||
| That's in the news. | ||
| He was at all those parties with Ed Buck. | ||
| These are a bunch of drug addict perverts. | ||
| Look at Schiff. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| It's not just Nichols saying that. | ||
| It's news articles that have, like, Larry is the only source saying it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Great. | ||
| News. | ||
| Like, true pundit. | ||
| The news is doing it, Dan. | ||
| Great. | ||
| We can believe in the media, which I, of course, have been screaming that you shouldn't believe. | ||
| At all, ever. | ||
| No, no, no, but this media is good. | ||
| Never believe the media. | ||
| They're all lying to you. | ||
| They are always lying to you. | ||
| You cannot trust them. | ||
| This time, even they're saying it! | ||
| This is the good media. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Media's only bad if they have fact-checkers. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| So, Alex rambles a bit about evil and how he's not into it. | ||
| That's the description on every one of our... | ||
| For April Fool's, you should go back and edit every one of the podcast descriptions. | ||
| Alex rambles about the devil. | ||
| Alex rambles about evil. | ||
| So he's moving away from the devil. | ||
| Anything corrupt or evil that I was ever into now is a joke and I'm pulling away by light years away from the devil. | ||
| Accelerating away. | ||
| Satan's behind me. | ||
| And I just want to take my children and your children and all these wonderful spirits that are good, gentle creatures with us into the universe forever and justice and freedom and away from these fallen, twisted entities. | ||
| Let's get out of here. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Get behind me, Satan. | ||
| Listen to what Christ said. | ||
| Think how hardcore that is. | ||
| Get out of my way. | ||
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I'm leaving. | |
| I'm jumping. | ||
| I'm gone. | ||
| Away from Ed Buck. | ||
| Away from Adam Schiff. | ||
| Away from Aleister Crowley. | ||
| Away from Satan. | ||
| Away from Hillary Clinton. | ||
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Away, away, away, away, away! | |
| We want to go away! | ||
| We want to leave you! | ||
| We want you out of our presence! | ||
| Alright, I want to give you guys a chance. | ||
| I'm really tempted, but I need to spend some time with the family. | ||
| I've got a lot of big projects. | ||
| I'm up here working tomorrow already on projects and plans and big things to fight the globalists. | ||
| And I'm excited about all this. | ||
| I'm getting ready to sell my house so I can fund these projects, which I'm glad to do. | ||
| That's what that energy is stored up to do. | ||
| But I want money because it's a weapon system and it's because I can block these enemies' attacks with it and then I can carry out operations against them. | ||
| So we got products you need. | ||
| Everybody should get DNA for us. | ||
| Everybody should get X2. | ||
| Yeesh. | ||
| Lawsuits are not going well, dude. | ||
| No, I'm sorry. | ||
| He's funding new projects. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, for a long time, Alex has said that if he has to, he's willing to sell his house to fund the Infowar. | ||
| But this is literally the first time I've heard him talk about it as something he's actually doing. | ||
| I don't know if I believe him, because Alex is a liar, and it's in the middle of him doing an ad pivot, so it's possibly, pretty likely, that that's just him trying to create more incentive for people to give him money. | ||
| But assuming that that's not a lie, this is a very, very bad sign for Alex. | ||
| There's no way that selling his house could provide enough capital for him to run Infowars for very long, so this would just be a matter of him trying to buy a few months at best. | ||
| The reason I say that is because Alex has made it clear that it costs tens of millions of dollars to run Infowars each year. | ||
| It's a complicated business, with a gigantic studio where rent is not low, tons of bandwidth costs, an entire supplement business with a warehouse and distribution connected, a bunch of lawyers working on a ton of cases. | ||
| I don't know if tens of millions, that figure, is correct, but I feel like it could be close, given how many moving parts Infowars has. | ||
| The most expensive home sale ever in Austin was a gigantic mansion that went for $21.8 million, and currently the most expensive house on the market has an asking price of $14.9 million. | ||
| Alex obviously has a nice house, and I bet it's worth a lot, but it's nowhere near the top end of Austin's luxury property market. | ||
| If I had to guess, I would be surprised if his house was valued at more than a few million dollars. | ||
| Alex has said that his family owns some land. | ||
| But I have a hard time imagining that his parents, who are still alive, would allow him to sell off acreage that's been handed down generationally just so he can keep paying the legal fees that his radio show has racked up. | ||
| Plus, I think if that's what he was saying, he might phrase it differently. | ||
| Ultimately, I don't know what to think here. | ||
| If he's saying that he's selling his house when he's not, and it's just a crass and manipulative marketing ploy, I think that's possible. | ||
| If he's actually selling his house, then his show is not going to make it another six months. | ||
| It's not like Alex is just in a tough patch and he needs to get through it and then everything will be fine. | ||
| He's fucked in the long run, whether he makes it through this crunch or not. | ||
| His reach is non-existent. | ||
| His best friend, who he changed his career for, is going to prison. | ||
| He's crawling back to Larry Nichols and Steve Pchenik. | ||
| His attempts to dodge the Sandy Hook lawsuit are all failing. | ||
| The president he's made the center of his career is getting impeached. | ||
| Those aren't little obstacles in the road. | ||
| There are major problems that $6 million is probably not going to solve. | ||
| Again, I still think he's probably full of shit. | ||
| But if he's not, he's in serious trouble. | ||
| And I would probably advise him against selling his house. | ||
| He needs that house to record his podcast in. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| How are we going to keep the show going when Infowars crumbles? | ||
| This is such one of those moments when you're being blackmailed where it's just like, you've got to admit sooner or later that... | ||
| Whatever it is that they have on you is not as damaging as continuing this whole game. | ||
| Just get it out. | ||
| Get it done. | ||
| You'll be okay. | ||
| Alex just needs to call it. | ||
| Let's look at this differently. | ||
| Let's say you've fallen for the Nigerian scam. | ||
| Fair enough! | ||
| That is a good way of putting it. | ||
| Don't keep going. | ||
| Don't keep going. | ||
| You're in the sunk cost fallacy. | ||
| He genuinely thinks that there's a way out of this for him and there just isn't. | ||
| It's probably not. | ||
| Outside of like... | ||
| Scaling back and seeing if you could regrow a little bit somehow. | ||
| I think that's probably his only real ploy. | ||
| Dumping money into Infowars at this point, short of finding an angel investor who will give you millions of dollars, millions and millions of dollars, to keep doing what you're doing is a fool's game. | ||
| So Alex, at this point... | ||
| It starts to speculate about Trump. | ||
| So when I was talking about this stuff and Alex bringing these guys back in seems indicative of a move away from Trump, it was a feeling that I was having. | ||
| And when I got to this point in the episode, I really feel like maybe it's more than just my feelings. | ||
| And people say, why are you pissed at Trump? | ||
| Well, I mean, I know the Democrats are evil. | ||
| I know they're trying to destroy everybody in the country and trying to bankrupt the nation, trying to sabotage the dollar. | ||
| I mean, I know that. | ||
| And then the president sits up there and tweets at these people and eloquently describes what crooks they are. | ||
| Wonderful! | ||
| You know, does Trump secretly work with the deep state? | ||
| And then he just holds our hand like he holds somebody's hand at hospice? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm not saying that, but you could start saying that. | ||
| Yes, you could. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| If Hillary was in doing all this, nobody would put up with it. | ||
| That's true also. | ||
| But you see, if Trump's in there. | ||
| God, you're so close. | ||
| And all this persecution and censorship and control goes into place. | ||
| And then he always, you know, acts like he's fighting it, but never really does anything about it to stop it. | ||
| Let's not get distracted by the details. | ||
| Stay on there. | ||
| Stay on target. | ||
| You're doing this. | ||
| Come on! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's just food for thought. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Because Roger Stone did nothing wrong except get the president elected. | ||
| Well, illegally. | ||
| And maybe Trump's doing the right thing and pardoned him right away. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| So you hear this here, the introduction of thoughts about, hey, you know what? | ||
| Maybe Trump was put in in order to pacify and neutralize elements of the right wing that are anti-deep state. | ||
| If that's what you need to get there, that's fine. | ||
| Because if Hillary was in office... | ||
| We wouldn't put up with this shit. | ||
| Yes, you nailed it. | ||
| You absolutely nailed it. | ||
| Come on, put two and two together. | ||
| We're only doing it because we're holding out hope that he's going to enact the white nationalist dictatorship that we want. | ||
| Land that plane! | ||
| Land it! | ||
| I mean, it's still, the end result still isn't good thinking, but it is what it is. | ||
| So, I mean, he's just, at the end of this episode, he's just starting to recognize these things. | ||
| And I'm going to take a few calls now, but I'm going to briefly, at the start of the next segment, have a message for President Trump, because I know what Trump's doing, I know what he's being told, and I know the calculus. | ||
| What's going on in his brain about Roger Stone? | ||
| And this is a lot bigger than Roger Stone, obviously. | ||
| And that calculus is not good. | ||
| Roger Stone is not a fart in church that we just try to pretend didn't happen. | ||
| Trump needs to run towards this and pardon Stone and point out how it's all fiasco, just like the fake impeachment. | ||
| He had a press conference and we went and checked. | ||
| Reportedly, he didn't talk about Stone. | ||
| Just like he doesn't talk about Julian Assange anymore after he told Julian Assange to release the info. | ||
| And that's a lack of loyalty. | ||
| And it's not good. | ||
| You know, we've been right about everything we told Trump. | ||
| All the moles, everything. | ||
| instead he just brings in all those candy asses. | ||
| 'Cause everybody's trying to play it safe. | ||
| Well, playing it safe got it. | ||
| where we are. | ||
| Not playing it safe got Trump elected. | ||
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I mean, that's also illegal. | |
| That's got the political power and right to stop all this. | ||
| You start to get the feeling that what Alex is doing is sort of waking up. | ||
| From being manipulated. | ||
| He's being red-pilled, if you will. | ||
| He's starting to recognize none of this shit that I thought was going on is going on. | ||
| Now, some of that could be the way you soft-launch a narrative. | ||
| You soft-launch pivoting away by pretending that you're waking up from this deception that you've fallen under. | ||
| Or it could be real. | ||
| I don't know what it is, but you can clearly see... | ||
| That Alex is starting to way more explicitly talk about, like, this probably is not good. | ||
| My theory? | ||
| He is in a cult, and this is as close as he's going to get. | ||
| And the next week is going to be him getting right back on it. | ||
| I mean, this has happened over and over again. | ||
| Over and over again. | ||
| But also, you have to recall, when he did that thing after the Syria bombing, we know... | ||
| From going over it, Alex turned on Trump drunkenly on air that night. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And the next day, he talked to Roger, who got him back in line. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Roger's not going to do that this time. | ||
| Ooh, that's true. | ||
| Who does he have around him? | ||
| He has people like Joel Skousen. | ||
| Joel Skousen isn't going to get him back on Trump's team. | ||
| Like, who, that Garpe Donkdom isn't going to get him back on Trump's team? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think, I don't think. | ||
| Which is strange, because everybody knows he listened to the Donk. | ||
| I don't think the reintegrative Trump network or whatever is there to get Alex back into the fold if he starts drifting. | ||
| He doesn't have the cult near him anymore. | ||
| It doesn't seem like that influence is necessarily there. | ||
| And for that reason, I think it's possible that some of these feelings will grow more than they would have with Roger present. | ||
| Yeah, if Roger was there, he would have been like, hey, Trump and I go way back. | ||
| We fucked the same ladies together. | ||
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Come on! | |
| But it's not weird. | ||
| It's not weird like that. | ||
| We've gotten into some fights in the past, but we always made up. | ||
| But we didn't double team up. | ||
| Not in a weird way, though. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's almost weirder that they didn't. | ||
| I have no comment. | ||
| I think that it is entirely possible that this is going nowhere and Alex will get back in line. | ||
| That's entirely possible. | ||
| Because I could see a situation where Trump does some sort of overture. | ||
| And that wins Alex and these dumb right-wing fucks back. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| But I also see it as entirely possible that this will be enough and Alex will get where he needs to go. | ||
| And one of the reasons I think that is very often you'll see Alex's narratives that he's pushing reflected in callers. | ||
| So he gets a caller, and here's what this guy has to say. | ||
| Let's talk to Chris in Tennessee. | ||
| Go ahead, Chris. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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How's it going, Alex? | |
| Man, I am fired up and just in war mode. | ||
| You don't sound like it. | ||
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I hear you. | |
| I'm a little saddened about what's going on. | ||
| I'm thinking, at a certain point, when do we admit that Trump isn't a white hat? | ||
| He's so close, guys. | ||
| The indictments haven't come. | ||
| And what you said, you hit the nail on the head earlier, I think. | ||
| Would it be smarter for the globalists to just have Hillary in, or would it be smarter for them to have Trump in and just act like he's on our side? | ||
| Well, I don't think that, but we had to start introducing that idea because, I mean, I think he's just surrounded by the swamp. | ||
| He listens to advisors. | ||
| Oh, don't say much about Roger because, you know, he's been convicted. | ||
| That ties you to stuff during the impeachment. | ||
| Oh, give me a break. | ||
| The whole thing is a fraud. | ||
| Everybody knows it. | ||
| Call it. | ||
| And all their attempts to say, don't talk about whistleblower names, don't talk about jurors, all of that is just pure mafia tactics. | ||
| He was just talking about it in a press conference. | ||
| So talk about Roger. | ||
| And it's just a sign. | ||
| But what's going on? | ||
| He's done a lot of stuff like saying America's good and it's good to have borders that the globalists don't like. | ||
| He has done a lot. | ||
| Trump has good instincts in many ways, and I don't think he's a bad guy. | ||
| By saying two things. | ||
| But you heard Pachenik, and they've done an assessment of him. | ||
| Pachenik's smart. | ||
| Trump is not a wimp, but he's not as tough as he says he is. | ||
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He's easily manipulated, it seems like, maybe. | |
| That's a really big deal on Alex's show. | ||
| If Alex says he's not tough, that might be the final straw right there. | ||
| That is something that you do not say. | ||
| But Alex's show and his world is so built on... | ||
| Toxically masculine. | ||
| Yeah, and the protection of masculine imagery. | ||
| Trump is a bull. | ||
| He's out there just wrecking shop on people. | ||
| So strong. | ||
| The idea that Steve, because Steve was talking about that when he came back on the show, that he's really not that tough. | ||
| It's a facade that he puts on. | ||
| That's why he needs Melania to fire everybody. | ||
| Melania has to fire people. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| So Alex, you know, being like, you know, Trump isn't that tough is a huge slap in the face. | ||
| Whereas that might be something in another context, someone else saying it, you're like... | ||
| It's an interesting thought. | ||
| For Alex to say it, it's equivalent to him being like, he's not a man. | ||
| It is honestly, honestly, saying he should shove ISIS up his dirty asshole is like, oh, that's just gentle ribbing amongst friends. | ||
| Saying that you're not tough is fill-your-hand territory. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So this caller and Alex keep talking, and Alex brings up that, like, hey, you know, people who stand up for Trump, they end up getting in trouble. | ||
| And this caller brings up something that I think is so fucking hilarious. | ||
| It catches Alex so off guard. | ||
| Look, look, Giuliani stood up for him and went after the deep state, another trying to indict him. | ||
| And I guess he'll just, another time I'm just cutting Giuliani loose. | ||
| Give me a break! | ||
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Well, don't you think Giuliani's kind of shady? | |
| He was probably involved in covering up 9-11 when he was mayor. | ||
| Oh, there's no doubt that he knew about better stuff and went along with that. | ||
| I'm talking about the season we're in now. | ||
| Yeah, but Giuliani is a smart guy. | ||
| He's corrupt. | ||
| I don't think he's out to get America. | ||
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Wait, wait, wait. | |
| But he was in Roger 9-11. | ||
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Whoops. | |
| Alex, don't you remember how this is the guy? | ||
| No, he was totally involved. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Do you hear what he said there, too? | ||
| He's like, I'm more concerned with the season we're in. | ||
| Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying. | ||
| Yes, sure, this guy did 9-11, helped cover it up. | ||
| Yes, absolutely, but he likes Trump now. | ||
| That's the season we're in. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| All that other stuff is not supposed to be important anymore. | ||
| Continuity, what are we doing? | ||
| It's not canon. | ||
| Hey, look, I know I yell all the time about the mainstream media thinking you have no memory, but you're not supposed to have a memory. | ||
| Yeah, come on, quit it. | ||
| I know I built my career on 9-11. | ||
| And all of this shit. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Forget about Giuliani and all this stuff I said back then. | ||
| It's not important. | ||
| He's Trump's lawyer now, and it's great. | ||
| I know you remember the original version, but McClunky. | ||
| So we just got to do this. | ||
| It's the same thing with that Rick Perry thing. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| All this stuff is such bullshit. | ||
| And it's so awesome to hear somebody, like one of these callers, who's like... | ||
| On board with Alex, and Alex feels like a false sense of security. | ||
| So safe, yeah. | ||
| Rightly brings up, hey, aren't we supposed to not like Giuliani? | ||
| Well, yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But. | ||
| Now, this is a tough one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| I'm going to need somebody to give me a cookie while I munch this over. | ||
| At the end of the fucking clip, Alex saying, I don't think he's trying to screw over America. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How do you square that? | ||
| Well, I mean. | ||
| Because he helped stage 9-11, it got us into the war in Iraq, and he's not trying to screw over America. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this is the end of the, I guess, what you would call the substantive Roger Stone pageant. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| On the 14th, you have Alex... | ||
| Really acting irresponsibly whether or not Stone sent him a message or not. | ||
| I have no position on that because I can't possibly have a position on that. | ||
| But I can say, whatever message Roger sent him, Alex deeply editorialized in a way that jeopardized Roger's freedom. | ||
| So, after the verdict. | ||
| Then, on the 15th, Alex responds to the verdict being passed by... | ||
| Marketing heavily. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And signaling a very clear interest in exploring the idea that Trump is not good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that it might be time that we gotta jump ship. | ||
| So that's pretty interesting. | ||
| That is pretty interesting. | ||
| But now, he also talks to Roger's friend Tyler Nixon. | ||
| I don't really give a shit. | ||
| It's just basically Roger's cool and he's fine. | ||
| There's another narrative that comes up. | ||
| And that is... | ||
| I'll let Alex explain it. | ||
| In Running Man, written by Stephen King, turned into a movie, the government can show one person that really killed somebody, but then put somebody else's face on it with computers. | ||
| It's set in the future. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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I think it's even set in like 2020 or something. | |
| But that's how crazy all this is. | ||
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This morning, I'm working out and my workout partner goes, look at this funny video. | |
| That your son, Rex, tweeted. | ||
| And as soon as I saw the video, I called Rex up this morning. | ||
| He's 17, about to finish high school. | ||
| And I said, you said that I sent you this video. | ||
| And he said, oh, I just did that as a joke. | ||
| And I said, well, okay, somebody's taking a blue screen of me. | ||
| That's footage that I shot a while back to send to Carpe Donctum. | ||
| I've talked about this on air so he can make some memes. | ||
| We did a lot of the funny things I've done on air over the years so he could... | ||
| Put my head and body on different things. | ||
| And then I guess somebody in the process has sent out this green screen video trying to track down. | ||
| Now I'm told I'll be in court over this for corrupting minors. | ||
| So Alex's son tweeted out a green screen video of Alex doing some rapping. | ||
| A little bit of rapping. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And in the background, it's like booty dancers. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's just like women shaking their ass and stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so his son tweeted this out. | ||
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Yes. | |
| So that's one part of this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, the second part of it is Alex says that someone put this over the green screen footage and he's trying to sort out who did it. | ||
| I got one culprit. | ||
| Carpe Donctum. | ||
| Yeah, it's very obvious. | ||
| You sent that to him. | ||
| You gave him that. | ||
| So if you sent him that, and no one else, presumably, I mean, if you sent it to other people, then check in with them, too. | ||
| But if you only sent it to Carpe Donctum, he knows who he gave it to. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now we got more suspects. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Whatever the case is, this investigation runs through one man, and his name is Carpe Donctum. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So check in with that guy. | ||
| Don't blame anybody else for this. | ||
| This is a little prank and a fun meme. | ||
| I'm going to have to go with Deep State on this weekend. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably the Deep State. | ||
| I'm going to have to go with the Deep State. | ||
| God, he sounds like such an old man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is weird old grandpa. | ||
| So now I find out... | ||
| That my image can be put on the internet whenever they want. | ||
| And my son tweeted it out. | ||
| And my son tweeted it out. | ||
| There are two people to talk to. | ||
| Your son and Carpe Donctum. | ||
| Don't bring this on your fucking radio show. | ||
| And now that you mentioned your son on the air, his Twitter account has been taken away from him. | ||
| So now Alex seems to think that no one understands what green screens are. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| And this video is going to send him right to jail. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I'm gonna have to explain in court. | ||
| And I said, what if I was in the street with a bunch of women shaking their butts? | ||
| They're not naked. | ||
| Well, it's just not good for kids to be out with their dad with the women. | ||
| It's like some 1990s video someone put behind me. | ||
| And they won't understand it. | ||
| No one does. | ||
| I don't even know what to do anymore. | ||
| They're on the news saying it's illegal to say who the damn whistleblower is when it's not. | ||
| So, everyone understands green screen. | ||
| I don't think you'll have a very tough time with that. | ||
| You know, that is... | ||
| I do feel for people who are just absolutely unprepared for technology of any kind. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| I mean, imagine, you know, my grandpa was born in the 1920s. | ||
| She lived through the Great Depression. | ||
| She couldn't possibly have imagined that somebody could just take her face and make it say things. | ||
| Like, of course she'd begin to cry and lose her shit. | ||
| That's too big for her. | ||
| But I don't think Alex is overwhelmed by the actual technology. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| He thinks that everyone else is. | ||
| Exactly, he does. | ||
| Yes, which proves he himself is overwhelmed by all the technology. | ||
| Yeah, to an extent. | ||
| I mean, this is a zero to me. | ||
| As it relates to the actual video, I think it's just a dumb Alex meme. | ||
| I don't really give a shit about it. | ||
| But as it relates to Alex's covering of it, it's weird. | ||
| Because he seems to be legitimately concerned in some way that there will be a consequence for this green-screened video. | ||
| To the extent where I feel like he's trying to get ahead of the story. | ||
| Because he ends up playing it on his show. | ||
| It makes me feel like he... | ||
| In my mind, here's what he thinks is going to happen in court. | ||
| He's going to go to court, he's going to play that video, and then he's going to play the video that was superimposed on it, so you can see both of them playing side by side, and it'll prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that, of course, this one time-stamped from 30 years ago could not be the same video, and the jury will be like, nope, looks the same, guilty! | ||
| Because there's Obama on the jury. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So like I said, he's trying to get ahead of the story, and here's that. | ||
| Carpe Dongton wanted me to do some of the funny things I've said over the years, and I have sung to this song before, I think, once. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| So they put me over it. | ||
| It's my crime. | ||
| I'll probably go to federal prison for it. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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Booty, booty, booty, booty, booty everywhere. | |
| Rockin' everywhere. | ||
| Rockin' everywhere. | ||
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I know this new booty. | |
| So we give you guys to meet at the Players Club for a month or two. | ||
| I forget all those songs. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| This is embarrassing. | ||
| This is embarrassing. | ||
| Not least of which, because we already got there first, Carpe fucking Donctum. | ||
| Oh, this is so embarrassing. | ||
| Donctum, we got there first, buddy! | ||
| So, on this episode where Roger has been convicted, Alex spends a considerable amount of time doing damage control about a meme. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| That cannot possibly hurt him. | ||
| He's doing damage control about something that can provide Zero damage. | ||
| It can only actually hurt him in the court of public opinion among more puritanical elements of his audience. | ||
| Who don't understand green screen? | ||
| And if he's concerned about that, that's also tragic. | ||
| I'm going to lose out on my don't understand about green screen market. | ||
| So like I said, he talks to Tyler Nixon and it's mostly just Roger didn't do anything wrong. | ||
| He's being jammed up. | ||
| I don't really care. | ||
| It's not really all that interesting. | ||
| So I'm going to end on a call that Alex gets, because I like to end episodes sometimes on upsetting notes. | ||
| Okay, yes. | ||
| And this call is very much upsetting. | ||
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I know we all want to do things. | |
| Like I said, I am an active duty law officer. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Fire him. | ||
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God says there's a time for everything, and we've been legal and lawful, and look what it's got us. | |
| God put Trump in to give us a second chance. | ||
| Has he done good things? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But he has allowed people like Roger Stone and WikiLeaks and everything else to go on for us to have our hands tied behind our backs while we think we're in a fight. | ||
| Well, we're losing. | ||
| And it's time to get hardcore and it's time to get extreme because we're losing our country. | ||
| I'm predicting Trump will be impeached because look what they've done. | ||
| They've silenced... | ||
| I've been banned from Facebook and Twitter multiple times. | ||
| Roger Stone has been convicted. | ||
| Everything is falling apart. | ||
| Trump has not stood up for the Internet censorship. | ||
| We cannot speak anymore. | ||
| We've lost our country. | ||
| As you've said today, we live in clown world. | ||
| Now is the time to make a stand, because if we don't, Alex, I'm afraid we're not going to have a country to come home to. | ||
| So he references Clown World, of course, a neo-Nazi meme. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| That could not be more fucked up. | ||
| We've got a law enforcement guy, or at least someone who's saying he's a cop. | ||
| And what is he suggesting? | ||
| We've tried doing this the legal way. | ||
| We've tried doing all that, and it's not working. | ||
| We need to get extreme. | ||
| So the only conclusion you can take away from that is, let's do illegal shit. | ||
| And if you listen to Alex's show, what does that mean? | ||
| Well, I generally think it means it's a reference to Killing people? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Hunting globalists? | ||
| Alright, so if we've tried all of our legal and lawful options, clearly what we need to do... | ||
| Is figure out more legal and lawful options. | ||
| I think that's what he's trying to say. | ||
| He's saying we need to be more creative within the law. | ||
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That's plausible. | |
| That's what he's describing, Dan. | ||
| There's no way that an active-duty law enforcement officer, self-described, with very keen neo-Nazi ties, would be interested in violence, Dan. | ||
| This is the part where it's really interesting, because I think that there is a dichotomy at play, and I don't know how Alex can possibly work with it. | ||
| And that is that there is this element of his audience. | ||
| They see Roger being convicted, and it's like, well, it's time to get our guns. | ||
| There is no hope. | ||
| Trump isn't going to do it. | ||
| Therefore, it's time to shoot. | ||
| And I don't know how you suppress that urge in your audience, Alex, because he's built it up over time. | ||
| Like, hey, Trump is our last hope. | ||
| If it doesn't work out, then we have to go to the gun. | ||
| Like, that sort of thing has been a mainstay of his rhetoric for a long time. | ||
| But simultaneously, you start to see, like, I don't think that that's what Alex is experiencing in his transition. | ||
| Because if he goes away from Trump, it's not necessarily, at least what I hear in this episode, I don't hear him being, like, calling for, since Trump didn't do it, we gotta fucking start a civil war. | ||
| I think that his His attempts to focus on Hillary, his attempts to sort of re-maneuver what he's doing, it could lend itself to more info war. | ||
| So you have that, and then you have this element of the audience. | ||
| I don't know what you can do with it, but it doesn't seem good. | ||
| That call is very scary. | ||
| Not least of which, because combine that with Alex moving away from Trump. | ||
| Anytime, you know, in regards to Trump world that we now exist in, we saw this bubble up in real time from this level on the right wing. | ||
| We don't get Trump if it doesn't bubble up from down where we are right now. | ||
| This desire for an autocratic dictator, right? | ||
| This kind of thing bubbling up from below now, the idea of, well, we can't be on Trump's team. | ||
| We need to be anti-whomever, but we're no longer on Trump's team. | ||
| We're no longer protecting him. | ||
| Combined with the, we've lost complete faith in Trump, we need to start fucking guns out all day. | ||
| If that is kind of the new dichotomy that the conservative party winds up breaking into, some weird shit's gonna go down. | ||
| Yeah, but I think you're already seeing this, like with the stuff with Nick Fuentes and his guys trying to attack the turning point events. | ||
| Not attack, but yell at them and disrupt them. | ||
| Minorly inconvenience, though. | ||
| Yeah, I think that schism is going to be real. | ||
| And that's one of the things I think is most troubling about the possibility of Alex turning on Trump is it will radicalize further a certain segment of his audience. | ||
| And the direction that they're going to go is kind of expressed by this cop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Alleged cop. | |
| And so that's something where, like, I never thought about this before. | ||
| I'm sure Alex hasn't either, but there is a part of his turning on Trump that it's a great responsibility for him. | ||
| If he doesn't do it the right way, a lot of people are going to die. | ||
| Theoretically. | ||
| There is a real possibility of like... | ||
| Real damage. | ||
| We've been betrayed even by Alex. | ||
| That means we don't even have Alex in the Infowar anymore. | ||
| It's just you and me. | ||
| Well, yeah, because if Trump can be shown to be a traitor or whatever, then anybody can. | ||
| Alex can. | ||
| And where you go from there, what you choose to take as a good source or... | ||
| That stuff is troubling. | ||
| It's troubling to think how you could go, like, what's worse. | ||
| And that's what you would end up doing. | ||
| That is, I mean, it's very predictable, this going down, the way it has. | ||
| When you figure the... | ||
| Power structures in the right wing have always been attempting to co-opt the lower classes by distracting them with race and cultural issues and so on and so forth in order to do all this shit. | ||
| And by being able to channel that rage, they've been able to exist in a state of minority rule for fucking forever. | ||
| And now the rage is kind of getting out of their control and they don't know how to react to it because half of them are that rage. | ||
| You know, the power structure used to just be people controlling it. | ||
| And now half of them are just as crazy as everybody else. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's getting wild, man. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| When you say it's predictable, it's not that it is predictable. | ||
| Like, I have no idea what's going to happen. | ||
| But it's inevitable. | ||
| Yeah, that we would get to this point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This fractioning of stuff is inevitable. | ||
| Yeah, and we've always referenced it many times. | ||
| The in-group only gets smaller. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's troubling to think what could happen as a consequence of Alex turning on Trump if he doesn't do it right. | ||
| And I honestly think that bringing back Steve and bringing back Larry and having Joel Skousen have a more prominent position in the show, if that is Alex trying to maneuver getting away from Trump, I think is incredibly responsible. | ||
| We will. | ||
| We will. | ||
| Upon. | ||
| If that's what he's doing, that is a way to sort of neutralize some of that stuff. | ||
| We may wind up having to give Alex a kudos for safety. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's probably accidental. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| And in the same way, sort of doing it in a way where you don't outright hate Trump, and it's not like a violent break, is also more responsible. | ||
| Than as a snapping of a twig where you just freak out and scream at Trump. | ||
| The gradual disillusionment might be a much softer landing in some ways. | ||
| You would hope. | ||
| But whatever the case, I mean, I hate to make predictions because I'm always wrong, but we'll see what happens. | ||
| I guess the biggest problem I have is just the way that they had to portray it against Hillary with it being like our last hope and so on and so forth. | ||
| It's very much that. | ||
| Everybody gets disillusioned with the political process. | ||
| Everybody winds up thinking that politics is going to be able to do something and then it fails you in some way or another. | ||
| That's the system. | ||
| It's designed that way. | ||
| But whenever the guy that you have touted as the last guy turns out to disillusion you, why bother with the next election? | ||
| Why bother with it? | ||
| The last guy is nothing. | ||
| That's how disillusionment becomes despair, almost. | ||
| And despair in the hands of people who are, let's say, inclined towards militias and the worldview that is expressed by these anti-communist propagandists. | ||
| The legacy that includes the Turner Diaries and Siege and all of this. | ||
| That kind of despair is weaponized really easily. | ||
| Or at least, weaponized isn't the right word. | ||
| It becomes a weapon really easily. | ||
| And so I hope that that's not the case. | ||
| I think that's the big difference between our two sides. | ||
| When we got faced with this kind of despair, we started a podcast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| We'll see what happens in the future. | ||
| And it's really interesting to see that this is how Alex responds. | ||
| Narratively, and also he was sure he was going to get found guilty. | ||
| So there's no real surprise. | ||
| There's no need for a freakout, necessarily. | ||
| The only real moment of non-normal Alex yelling freakout is when someone didn't have a story that he needed. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| And had to go to a special report. | ||
| Ongoing problems with the production is fantastic. | ||
| So, I mean, I think that's really interesting. | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |